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By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this
Yeah, inevitable:
Va.- Obama, Md.- Obama, DC.- Obama.
{{{{Latino Voters By Six Points: 53-47}}}}
{{{{And Women by TWENTY ONE POINTS…}}}}
Bwa.
{{{{Mike Henry, deputy campaign manager for Sen. Hillary Rodham KKKlinton (N.Y.) has resigned, according to a source familiar with the decision.}}}}
Cutting and running, eh?
{{{{House Speaker Pelosi ‘leaning towards Obama’…}}}}
The wave of “hope” has turned into an avalanche.
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Look at what the Urinal is trying to hide at the very bottom of the front page:
{{{{OBAMA SWEEPS POTOMAC PRIMARIES-Urinal}}}}
Embarrassed, are we?
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{{{{Some of this results from the political moment — an unhappy public looking for “change” — and Mr. Obama’s skill in meeting it. His theme of optimistic, post-partisan, post-racial politics isn’t so much defeating Hillary KKKlinton as transcending her. It must be maddening to Mrs. KKKlinton, the uber-wonk, that Mr. Obama’s success is rooted in his style more than his substance. He is suddenly a phenomenon, of the sort our pop culture throws up every few months but that our politics rarely does.}}}}
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{{{{“We lost every single battle we had on this bill,” conceded Chris Dodd, which ought to tell the Connecticut Senator something about the logic of what he was proposing. His own amendment — to deny immunity from lawsuits to telecom companies that cooperated with the government after 9/11 — didn’t even get a third of the Senate. It lost 67-31, though notably among the 31 was possible Democratic Presidential nominee Barack Obama.}}}}
{{{{It says something about his national security world view, or his callowness, that Mr. Obama would vote to punish private companies that even the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee said had “acted in good faith.” Had Senator Obama prevailed, a President Obama might well have been told “no way” when he asked private Americans to help his Administration fight terrorists. Mr. Obama also voted against the overall bill, putting him in MoveOn.org territory.}}}}
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
The Urinal keeping it’s treasonous anti American BS alive and well:
{{{{More suicidal veterans from Guard, Reserves-POS Urinal}}}}
No statistics included of course.
Doesn’t it make you feel comforted to know that if you are a civilian and you kill yourself, the libs at Code Pinko couldn’t care less about you?
Since more people in civilian life commit suicide than do in the military, and the rate of reservists is slightly higher than regular army, shouldn’t we be conscripting the youth of America and making them serve a mandatory 3 year tour of duty in Iraq, so that there chances for suicide will be lessened?
If you really care.
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Check this little jewel out:
{{{{The speaker of Iraq’s, uh, I mean America’s fragmented parliament, er, House of Representatives, Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, uh, excuse me, Nancy Pelosi threatened Tuesday to disband the legislature, saying it is so riddled with distrust it appears unable to function. That would prompt new elections within 60 days and further undermine Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s shaky government.}}}}
So which one has the most truth to it?
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In the News knows exactly what Bush said and so do I, so why doesn’t the Urinal?:
{{{{President: Displaying noose is not ‘harmless’-Urinal}}}}
A little race baiting this morning, scumbags?
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{{{{The ink is still moist on Capitol Hill’s latest energy bill and, as if on cue, a scientific avalanche is demolishing its assumptions. To wit, trendy climate-change policies like ethanol and other biofuels are actually worse for the environment than fossil fuels. Then again, Washington’s energy neuroses are more political than practical, so it’s easy for the Solons and greens to ignore what would usually be called evidence.}}}}
{{{{The researchers break new ground by exposing a kind of mega-accounting error: Prior studies had never credited the carbon-dioxide emissions that arise when virgin forests, grasslands and the like are cleared to grow biofuel feedstocks. About 2.7 times more carbon is stored in terrestrial soils and plant material than in the atmosphere, and this carbon is released when these areas are cleared (often by burning) and the soil is tilled. Compounding problems is the loss of “carbon sinks” that absorb atmospheric CO2 in the bargain. Previ
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
Woo-Hoooo!
Obama/Clinton ‘08!
By Bootsie Amestoy
February 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
This is a very funny cartoon, Mr. Luckovich! The way things are going, perhaps the Clintons could arrange for the primaries and election to be held in 2015, so that they would not have to wait the additional year.
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 13, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
I see 2016 as Jim Webb’s year.
By @@
February 13, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
What’s with the shrinking man ml?
I love Bill’s newest approach to get Hillary elected—SHE’S THE UNDERDOG!
It’s been successful in getting Democratic votes for as long as I’ve been voting. Convince voters they’re the underdogs and that the powerful in Washington can change their reality.
They feel your pain…uh huh…uh huh.
It’s the sympathy vote and Bill wants his “pay” back.
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
I suppose its almost about time for SHrillary to retire to the old hippies’ home… What a hasbeen! Where do old corrupt commies go anyway when it’s time to retire the code pink and the anti-USA hatred for the last time? Shuffleboard for moonbats anyone?
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Americans are choosing hope over fear:
“Because hope is not blind optimism. I know how hard it will be to make these changes. I know this because I fought on the streets of Chicago as a community organizer to bring jobs to the jobless in the shadow of a shuttered steel plant. I’ve fought in the courts as a civil rights lawyer to make sure people weren’t denied their rights because of what they looked like or where they came from. I’ve fought in the legislature to take power away from lobbyists. I’ve won some of those fights, but I’ve lost some of them too. I’ve seen good legislation die because good intentions weren’t backed by a mandate for change.— The politics of hope does not mean hoping things come easy. Because nothing worthwhile in this country has ever happened unless somebody, somewhere stood up when it was hard; stood up when they were told – no you can’t, and said yes we can.”
By Mrs. Godzilla
February 13, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Goldie,
I’m with you.
Yes, we can.
By Tony Roberts
February 13, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
Woo-hooo!
Obama/Roberts 08!
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
I’ve got the PERFECT place for SHrillary to retire to:
CLINK-CLINK!
Federal prison. Just think about it…Sick Willie and Hitlery could have matching cells, one in mens prison for Bill and, well, come to think about it, one in mens prison for the Shrill as well since she likes to “play” with the girls, too…just like the boys…all these years, the ultimate case of penis envy.
By The Warden
February 13, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Zell,
You need to save the jail cells for Bush and Cheney. Executive privelige is about to run out.
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
One femminazi Eurotrash Socialist Pinko down (Hitlery IRaqham KKKlinton), One islamafacist Afro-supremist marxist pinko to go (BaRAQ Saddam Hussein Osama)!
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
Obama Beat the Republicans
by Devilstower
Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:10:25 PM PST
Barack Obama didn’t just beat Hillary in Virginia. He didn’t just get more votes than John McCain. In “red” Virginia, Obama got 142,000 more votes than all the Republicans put together. And that was with Hillary Clinton taking 100,000 more votes than John McCain.
He kicked butt, took names, and did it with both hands tied behind his back.
Oh, and in Maryland, with 40% of the vote in, Hillary is beating all Republicans put together while losing by 27%. You could probably limit Democrats to only left-handed voters, or red-haired voters, or left-handed red-haired voters whose names start with ‘Q,’ and the Republicans would still be in trouble.
From DailyKos
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
Obama Steals Clinton’s Base Hillary Clinton should be worried, not because Barack Obama won the Potomac Primaries, but because of how he won them. —By David Corn and Jonathan Stein
By D. Edna Shalala
February 13, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
“It is with sadness and a sense of hurt that I forward you this link,” went my friend’s note this morning. And now I see why.
How unutterably foul to wish our dear, loving, former First Lady in a men’s prison cell, debauched and debauching according to the writer’s pyschosexual whims.
Our First Lady fought for broader public access to mental health services, and before you is one very good reason why she was, and is, right.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
JAWDROPPERS A Video
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Spencer Ackerman reports that ‘Sons of Iraq’ Leader, Prince Ali Hatem Ali Suleiman, says the more than $2.35 million a week the US has been giving the group is “doing nothing” and threatens to walk out of the agreement after coordinated car bomb attacks kill at least 14 in Baghdad on Monday.
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
“or left-handed red-haired voters”
InTheNews— that’s me and my family!
By Copyleft
February 13, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Hehehe… not only is a Democratic victory inevitable this fall, but the BETTER of the two leading Democrats is in the lead!
Oh, great times are comin’ for America, you bet. And the far-right wackos will be wailing and gnashing their teeth for years to come.
Wheeee!
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Who will McCan’t inspire in America with his “100 more years, my friends” talk… I mean other than within the ranks of the Repug Party, those 30% Club-ers who just don’t get it???
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
{{{{By IN THE NEWS February 13, 2008 8:40 AM Obama Beat the Republicans Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 09:10:25 PM PST Barack Obama didn’t just beat Hillary in Virginia. He didn’t just get more votes than John McCain. In “red” Virginia, Obama got 142,000 more votes than all the Republicans put together. And that was with Hillary Clinton taking 100,000 more votes than John McCain.}}}}
Prop: This may be way over your empty head but those 142,000 were probably Republicans voting for Obama and against Ku Klux Rodham.
We hate that bit-ch if you know what I mean.
I wouldn’t get too giddy just yet.
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
I heard that once they arrive in Leavenworth, Sick Willie and Hitlery will be given special privledges and will be allowed to paint their cells in their favorite color-whitewater. That’s after they get settled in, of course.
Barack Obama- the hope candidate? More like BaRAT Hussein Osama, the DOPE candidate! So now Black Supremist Marxist Islamafacist Dopeboyz can be President, too. Never thought that I’d live long enough to see a party nomination come down to a SHRILL LESBIAN FEMMINIST EUROTRASH MARXIST (Hitlery) and a DOPE PUSHING AFRO SUPREMIST BLACK PANTHER MARXIST ISLAMAFACIST! Are the moonbat slimes gonna choose the man-hating shrill or the white people-hating muslim…talk about being a party of fringe lunatics! Boy the DEMOCRAP party has really outdone itself this time. Clearly a party that could care less about even attempting to put forth an All-American image. Instead, the DEMONCRATS seem to find and put forth every fervently anti-American marxist psycho that they can find.
By Copyleft
February 13, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
As long as intellects like yours are safely in the Republican camp, MadZell… a Democratic triumph is assured.
Keep up the (snicker) good work!
Wheeee! It’s great to be a REAL American, and not a Republican!
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Classic Duh
{{{Prop: This may be way over your empty head but those 142,000 were probably Republicans voting for Obama and against Ku Klux Rodham.}}}
From the ridiculous to the sub-slime!
By Martha
February 13, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
I beg to differ with the Leavenworth palette proposed here. I am privileged to call Hillary and Bill Clinton friends, and it happens that Ms. Clinton embraced my own Jailhouse Celadon at the time of my rustication, while the former President, an Autumn, opts for warm colors. The Man from Hope is, after all, from Hot Springs, Arkansas.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
“A Bush administration plan to crack down on contract fraud has a multibillion-dollar loophole: The proposal to force companies to report abuse of taxpayer money will not apply to work overseas, including projects to secure and rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan.”
This is a bit LARGER than your average loophole.
By Guvnah Faubus
February 13, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Luckoduh:
Perhaps this would be a good time for you to lay out in narrative form your reasons for attributing racism to the Clintons and their campaign. Take it away, please…
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
BaRAT HUSSEIN OSAMA-the DOPE candidate!
D. Edna Shalaya: of all the things in this world that HITLERY is, loving sure as hell ain’t one of them! This anti-USA carpetbagging scumbag has the gall to serve on the Armed Services Committee when she, along with her Berkeley, CA moonbat buddies, would much rather spit in the face of a serviceman than to p*ss on them if they were on fire. The lying scumbag hippy burnout slut would much rather run an American soldier (and most other Americans) down in the street like a stray mangy dog before she would give them a helping hand. That “woman” is not your friend and could care less about women and anybody else who is stupid enough to vote for her except to get her grubby little hands on all of the money and power she can get.
By mm
February 13, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Isn’t it fun to watch Duh and Zell squirm because they know the GOP will be destroyed in November?
See how they try to play down the inevitable loss in November by their delirious spin.
Get a bag of popcorn, sit back and relax, and enjoy the meltdown show.
Duh and Zell are poster children for why the GOP failed America.
By D. Edna Shalala
February 13, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Oh but I assure you, she is my friend and she is loving.
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
I suggest that McCan’t start giving his “victory” speeches BEFORE Sen. Obama gives his — did y’all see last night, when poor pathetic McCan’t gave his “I want to be your president” speech AFTER Obama had the rafters lifted off that gymnasium in Wisconsin??? That’s just not fair to the poor ole geezer McCan’t who needs to be in bed by 9:00 each evening!
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
D.Edna Shalaya: Only if you consider “loving” being hit by a speeding Greyhound bus…
By Morris Messy
February 13, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — A prominent civil rights leader has told the Democratic National Committee that refusing to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would disenfranchise both states’ minority communities.
In a Feb. 8 letter to DNC Chairman Howard Dean, NAACP chairman Julian Bond expressed “great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted.” Refusing to seat the states’ delegations could remind voters of the “sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries,” he said.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Mr. Messy
you forgot this part of the article:
In an interview, Bond said the NAACP had taken no position in the race between Clinton and Obama and would not endorse either candidate. He sent the letter on behalf of the voters in Michigan and especially Florida, where the Republican-controlled legislature and governor changed the state’s primary date.
“It struck me as making the voters, including minority voters in Florida particularly, victims of the Republican legislature in Florida. I wanted to get Chairman Dean to find some way to rectify the situation,” Bond said.
The DNC has said it would allow both states to hold a different contest, probably a caucus, that would comply with party rules. Either state can also appeal the penalty to the DNC credentials committee, which will not meet again until this summer.”“
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
“The Defense Department is displaying a ‘precipitous decrease in attention’ to the security and control of the U.S. nuclear arsenal, according to a Defense Science Board task force.” “The decline in DoD focus has been more pronounced than realized and too extreme to be acceptable,” said the task force’s chairman, retired Air Force Gen. Larry D. Welch, in testimony yesterday
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
A couple of questions for the “hope for change” left…
Why do you believe jobs get outsourced to other countries?
What has Bush, or even Clinton before him, done to make that happen? The exodus didn’t start with Bush.
What is the Dems plan to bring the jobs back? (Hint, the answer to this question must lie in the answer to the first questions. They have to reverse the reason they left for them to come back by undoing what was done to make them leave.) What’s the plan?
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
A couple of questions for the “hope for change” left…
Why do you believe jobs get outsourced to other countries?
What has Bush, or even Clinton before him, done to make that happen? The exodus didn’t start with Bush.
What is the Dems plan to bring the jobs back? (Hint, the answer to this question must lie in the answer to the first questions. They have to reverse the reason they left for them to come back by undoing what was done to make them leave.) What’s the plan?
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
It is great fun, pleasure and enjoyment that America eagerly watches the great cutthroat Hitlery’s Presidential Campaign curl up into the fetal position. What’s next? SHrillery out on the side of a Capital Beltway off-ramp with a “WILL LIE FOR FOOD” sign or maybe Hitlery could finally come to “find herself” and realize her true calling as a contract mercenary killer before she gets too old! People don’t know that poltics was actually her second career choice. After the American people soundly reject Hitlery’s overbearing communist carpet-munching ways, she’ll finally be free to pursue her true life’s passion: UNBRIDLED ANGER!
By Office of Hon. Tom Bates, Mayor
February 13, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
The City of Berkeley is proud today to be the first municipality in the United States to declare itself a Global Warming Free Zone.
The City Council last night resolved that this unprecedented declaration represents not a mere gesture, but rather “a firm commitment to change.” Our resolution therefore is far more than a proclamation; our resolution is a declaration of resolve.
Accordingly, we have adopted a three-prong plan of action. First, the Council has levied an ad valorem tax on all Berkeley businesses to fund the One Degree Farenheit campaign to promote public awareness of the dangers of Global Warming. Green businesses are exempt from this tax. Second, we have made a commitment to replace fully 5,000 dirty jobs with Green Jobs by the Year 2010. Finally, we are resolved to use all resources at our disposal to reduce Global Warming by One Degree Farenheit before the Year 2015.
Anyone familiar with the proud history of this great City will understand why the City Council and I place this campaign squarely in Berkeley’s finest tradition of “thinking globally, and acting locally.” For well over half a century, while other governments have taken the pulse, the City of Berkeley has taken action.
CONTACT: (510) 981-7100
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
RB from Gwinnett,
Why don’t you start the discussion by describing your candidates stance on the issue?
By Political Foreskin
February 13, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Obama’s landslides last night prove that America survived Bush.
Obama is now a mathematical certainty to B the next prez. Those margins were too huge.
McCain couldn’t beat Barney Frank in a general election.
This is a new era.
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
RB,
Why don’t you visit Obama’s website? There’s your plan. While you’re at it, why don’t you visit Clinton’s and McCain’s? If you really want to know what their plan is, it’s spelled out pretty clear on their sites.
Do you really want to know or do you want to keep posting ridiculous rhetorical questions just to try and bait some into a debate that you already seem to know all the answers too?
RB, you are quite boring, your “in your face” kind of posts are juvenile at the most.
I love the way misguided individuals such as yourself post questions and then tell us the answers, as if you somehow possess some kind of omnipotent forethought.
Some of us do not care about the past, we care about the future. The blame game has grown quite boring for about 75% of the country.
By Don't Forget The Ammo!
February 13, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Sounds like the city of JERKerly, CaliFORNICATION is proud to proclaim itself a COMMON SENSE-FREE zone.
Glow-ball warming: GOOD
U.S. Marines (you know, some of the great American Patriots who helped to fight for and make JERKeley’s wacked-out free speech possible): BAD
America proudly proclaims JERKeley, CaliFORNICATEia as the most shameful city in the U.S. (Actually it’s a tie with it’s big lesbian sister across the gay, I mean bay, San FranSICKO, CaliFORNICATEia)
JERKeley and San FranSICKO…today’s most shameful cities in the WORLD!
p.s.: I heard that Bill Campbell is more than willing to share his cell will Hitlery and the other “Bill” (sick willie)
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
RB from Gwinnett,
You probably already know this, but you will never get an answer to a substantive question from a leftist here. They simply aren’t capable, so all you’ll get is an ITFS or one of his sockpuppets smugly obfuscating like you see at 10:07.
The fact is that some jobs will never come back to our shores and that’s been the cycle of business and growth throughout our history, but overburdening our business community with oppressive taxes tends to run them off before their time.
By Dubya
February 13, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Hickabee looks good out there and stronger every day. Let us keep him there. It is good. He is highly reflective and representative of the extreme percentage that exists of Republiscum who worship and suckle from the twin teats of hatred and ignorance. God Bluss Murcuh. Allah Akbar!
By Guvnah Faubus
February 13, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
What ol’ Julian meant to say is “the sordid history of racially discriminatory DEMOCRAT primaries.”
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
How America Can Be a Superpower the World Respects By Jason Marsh, Greater Good. Posted February 13, 2008. Seven principles that could offer a new model of American power — one that inspires and mobilizes other nations to work with us.
By Don't Forget The Ammo! (Mad As Zell)
February 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
I think we all know what kind of “loving” you’re talking about when referring to SHrillery KKKlinton…the kind “loving” that takes place between two women ON a speeding Greyhound bus that is running over an unsuspecting Hitlery/Osama supporter like a stray dog in the street! Which is odd because we all thought that Hitlery would be the “rough” one, you know, the one whom you wouldn’t want to run into a back alley alone unless you were heavily armed!
By getalife
February 13, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
So, the corporate media are back to before NH and writing Clinton off.
Not so fast, Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania will tell the story if it is over or not.
Obama’s campaign manager is much better than Rove and his hope rhetoric has punked many Americans but when he debates the reality of Obama is he is just another politician.
Last night, McInsane used “hope” and “fired up” mocking Obama like a smug, arrogant, gop loser.
So if it is Obama, I hope he crushes that insane lunatic and he will retire.
One thing is for sure, this country does not need another Mcbushie in the WH.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
I understand the GOP primaries are winner take all.
Anybody see total number of votes in all the primaries/caucuses in the GOP races. Some of my right wing buds think maybe Huckabee is getting the short sheet.
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
getalife — did you see McInsane in his “fired up” mode last night? What a yawning festival!
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
RW,
Correct me if I’m wrong, because I don’t know the answer to this, but haven’t corporations been enjoying lower taxes in years past, while still outsourcing jobs?
McCain’s plan is to virtually do nothing about getting jobs back, instead focusing on retraining, which of course, requires education, so if he’s president, we’ll see more vocational training opportunities, which I think would be very beneficial. But retrain them to do what?
I think you are right in your assessment, that not all the jobs will come back. But Americans really don’t want to hear that right now.
By D. Edna Shalala
February 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Whoever you are, you must be a man and you must seek medical attention. You evince no understanding of the tenderness one woman can feel for another. Also, it is rather apparent that you know not one thing about the Clintons. Nothing that you believe about the Clintons is in fact true. Not a single thing. You know that they exist, that one of them served as the most accomplished President in memory and that the other one now seeks that same office. Other than that, you know only that Bill Clinton was raised in Hope and did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.
By SPIKE
February 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
And now comes AMMO/ZELL - a perfect storm of Repug psychopathicity at its stunted, forever lost best. Drooling on his puter as he rants on about the great state of California and enraged because he doesn’t “fit” there - or anywhere. Add to this blend one RW and that’s a synergistic team of inferiority at its most glorious. Add HOMODUH to this cocktail and produce a meaningless mass of megalomaniacal morons. Tell us more about those “patriotic Marines.” throw in some “family values” and some “heroes” as well. You’re learning.
By getalife
February 13, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Goldie,
Yes, I saw the enthusiastic, energized, thousands of Obama supporters then cut to a few dull, boring, old establishment loser.
The contrast was very obvious.
By Beavis
February 13, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Republican.
…RepubliKLAN. Good!
…RepubLICKIN. Really good!!
…Reschlub— Nah…
…ReCLUBlican. Maybe, maybe.
…Wepubwican. Bwa!
…ReFLUBlica…
By luckovichisaheadcase
February 13, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
D. Edna Shalala - please name one accomplishment of the Clinton administration that was not in fact part of the Contract with America or otherwise the result of the work done by a Republican Congress. Please do not name balancing the budget as Clinton opposed that (Laura Tyson gave numerous speeches and interviews on that subject saying that it was not necessary as did Clinton).
By LaLaLand Liberals
February 13, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
“”I think you are right in your assessment, that not all the jobs will come back. But Americans really don’t want to hear that right now.”“
which is why ignorant dreamers buy into the obama chant.
By HAMMER
February 13, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
If I had a Chinese hammer, I’d hammer in the morning. I’d hammer in the evening, all over Obama Nation. I’d hammer out warning! I’d hammer out justice! I’d hammer out love between Shalala and Hillary all over Obama land…
“Psychopathicity”? Mmn-mmmmm. The Bosch never learn their lessons…
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
A Test For The Maverick: Will McCain Vote Against Waterboarding Today?
By mm
February 13, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Headcase,
You are another poster child. You credit everything good to the GOP and blame everything bad on the Dems.
Typical.
Name a Bush accomplishment that didn’t screw something up.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
What Americans want to hear is pretty immaterial to a rational discussion of the truth.
In truth corporations don’t pay any taxes anyway, they just add them in as a cost of doing business and pass that cost along to the consumer. You reach a point where the American company can’t compete with a foreign company.
I went to Obama’s web site where you claim his plan for bringing jobs back to America is clearly spelled out. Do I need some of that codeine to find this clear plan?
The only thing I can find is a reference to a bill he’s introduced in the Senate that doesn’t even have any text yet and it was introduced back on August 2nd 2007. I would think someone with a clear plan could put some text in his own bill in seven months.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Valerie Plame Wilson Describes Sibel Edmonds Disclosures as ‘Stunning’ Says She Been Following Recent Blockbuster Series in British Paper Concerning U.S. Nuclear Secrets Espionage, Allegations That Her Cover Company, Brewster Jennings, Was Exposed by a Former High-Ranking State Department Official as Long Ago as 2001…
By Rhett O. Rick
February 13, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Last night Newt said that McCain should challenge Obama and Clinton to implement CHANGE NOW. Nothing stopping them since they ARE seated senators.
Great idea! They have between now and November. It’s all BS.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
New National Poll on Impeachment Possible
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
LaLaLand Liberals,
So you think it’s better to keep pushing on with the same failed policies?
Do you think they’ll work better for McCain than they did for Bush?
By luckovichisaheadcase
February 13, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
mm- you just did the typical liberal thing - you answered a question with a question. You have no answer. The fact is that Clinton was a miserable failure as B-stard in Chief and he got none of his intitatives through, period. Agree or disagree with his policies, he was a failure. That is my point. He claimed successes only when he just coopted Republican initiatives. Bush has, sadly, done some of the same. But we were not talking about Bush, now were we. Answer my original question!!!!
By Bobbi
February 13, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Hammer. Are the words that far over your head? Other than hatred and insignificance, what is it you Repunks are taught these days? Oh, don’t bother. It shows through clearly. Pity.
By D. Edna Shalala
February 13, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Dr. Laura D’Andrea Tyson is a total babe. There were so many accomplishments in those days that it’s difficult to know where to begin. My personal favorite was swapping arms secrets for Chinese campaign cash, but the list is seemingly endless. What I cannot abide is the terrible misogyny one sees in this campaign. Once again one has to hear about what Bill did or did not do in hotel rooms or offices or bathrooms or on the telephone or here, there and everywhere. And it even has come to the point of implying that Hillary pimps her own daughter, when that sick implication could not be farther from the truth.
Hillary pimped Bill to her brother’s criminal clients. Let’s get that straight right now, and leave her daughter alone!
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
RW,
So again, we should just push forward with the same old policies?
In my opinion, it seems that corporations need to do more for this country than themselves, and until that happens, no matter what any politician says, or any plan they create is just fodder without the backing of the corporate system.
Corporations have been allowed to run freely and the only people that seem to have benefited from this are the CEOS and upper management of these corporations. They are the backbone of our economy, and they really aren’t stepping up to the plate to help out, because, for one, they have absolutely no incentive to do it. Why should they?
Like I said before, the whole notion of the trickle down economic system is worthless. We’ve seen it doesn’t work before, and it doesn’t work now. The trickle ends at the upper management level.
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
RW,
Am I also to assume that the answer to my question from earlier is that corporations pay no taxes becaue they pass the cost on to the consumer, and yet they still outsource jobs?
So, is that the plan we are supposed to keep on with? Is McCain going to somehow make that plan magically work when Bush couldn’t?
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
The Dems know that those outsourced jobs “are not coming back, my friends” — we don’t need some old geezer stating the obvious!
What the Dems CAN DO is use their free-thinking abilities and creative juices to come up with creating NEW JOBS that are good for America and the rest of the world — such as solar-powered vehicles or satellite-powered vehicles — and can put an end to the Big Oil companies’ crazy plans for continuing to import oil from terrorist nations! As well as the Dems plan to give corporate tax breaks to those companies who keep the jobs in America, instead of giving tax breaks for EXPORTING JOBS (which is what the Repugs love to do)!
Ya see, the Repugs just are not creative enough for today’s America — instead, they want to keep doing business the same ole way as it’s always been done and that includes supporting terrorist nations in the Middle East… we all know how they love those Saudi princes!
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Businesses are set up to make money for their owners and/or shareholders. They employ people to that end and not as some government controlled make work welfare program.
I would radically change the way government interacts with business, but I would attempt to get to a free market system rather than what you’re describing. I hope you realize you’re advocating fascism even though I know you probably don’t mean to be.
By HAMMER
February 13, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
What RePUNKlicans know:
That the national security interest is best served by a proactive and overwhelmingly strong defense.
That citizens make the best, and the only just, decisions about what to do with their earnings.
That American entrepreneurship has done more good in the world than any Five-Point or Ten-Point or Twenty-Point plan.
That prosperity is a prerequisite for cultural greatness.
That liberalism is the deadly folly of social engineering.
That were wishes horses, liberals would ride.
That it is a good thing to have a leader who submits to a higher power.
That the framers of the U.S. Constitution were smarter than any liberal now living.
That this is the most free, prosperous and influential nation in world history.
That this nation’s heritage is its greatest strength.
That Germans require a thumping on a fairly regular basis.
That it’s better to be a hammer than a spike.
That it’s better still to be the wrist.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Bosch 11:32,
The corporations pass along the taxes to us so it’s true to say that they don’t pay any, but it’s also true that after a point we don’t buy their product anymore because it’s too expensive.
Talk about economic magic tricks. I sure would hate to have you running any businesses I’m invested in.
By Khartouma
February 13, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
The Iranians knew that Bush meant it when he said, “we will destroy you”. As history repeats itself, with this time the twist being that “Carter” will succeed “Reagan”, the Iranians who have seen this movie before will abrogate all agreements we made in good faith and drive us out of Iraq. Obama, the nice but hopelessly misguided Carter of our time, will focus America’s might on where he thinks the “enemy” is, as he said last night, it is “Exxon” and “NAFTA”. We are seriously in for it if Obama is elected.
By Wizard of Oz
February 13, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Luckoduh: When I gave you the brain you promised your long-winded sermons would be better presented. You have all night to think this crap up…if you insist on hovering over your keyboard at eight in the morning so you can be the first one to post, at least make it entertaining to read. Maybe instead of giving you the brain I should have given you some sense. Oh well, I guess you prove a brain is just lost on some people.
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
RW,
Well, that’s a first - someone calling me a fascist, but what we have now is more in line with the fascist movement. It might help if you actually knew what fascism is:
[Fascism Anyone? by Dr. Lawrence Britt(http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4113.htm)
Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.
and this:
Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.
Yeap, that’s what we have now.
And, pray tell, how would you radically change the way businesses and the government interact if you were in charge?
Corporations certainly have the right to employ whoever they want, and make as much money as they want, that is true.
But corporations aren’t doing to much these days to help their American workers or the American consumer of their products.
Just because I’m not akin to the Republican saving grace “Trickle Down Economics” doesn’t make me a fascist.
Now, this is one thing that I’ve never seen explained, only lip-serviced - American companies can not compete with foreign companies - why is that?
And what’s with all the imports from China? I wonder what would happen if everything in the room where you are sitting that was Made IN China suddenly disappeared?
Hmmmm…..yeap, it seems to me that the failed policies of the past aren’t just doing it anymore.
By getalife
February 13, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
I think McInsane is insane due to being waterboarded many times.
Today, he has the chance to vote on it.
Will the maverick vote it is illegal or cut and run from this vote?
He voted yesterday for corporate amnesty.
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
By Bosch 11:27 AM
Bosch, thanks for your lengthy diatribe from my first post, but a simple, “I don’t have a clue” would be sufficient and save you a lot of typing.
A point you have yet to come to terms with is when US based companies can’t compete with foreign made goods, they can make less money to a point and then they just simply go out of business and EVERYBODY who works for them becomes unemployed. It’s not a matter of them being more friendly to the US interests, they simply can’t compete, lose money, and go out of business. Or they have to take steps to remain profitable which includes outsourcing of manufacturing and service/support functions.
High corporate taxes are a component of this issue, but also high on the list is a whole bunch of people in the developing world who are thrilled for the opportunity to make $1/day when it’s a dollar more than they’ve every had before. You may think they’re being taken advantage of, and compared to our standard of living they may be, but to them in their economy, it’s a gold mine.
I too missed Obama’s plan on his web site. How about quoting that for us.
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
RW,
We can stop buying the products from American corporations when the price gets too high? Well, that’s a brilliant solution to our economic crisis.
So we should stop buy gas! Oh wait, then we’ll have to walk 50 miles to work there and back because we have no public transporation system.
So we stop buying American made products, yeah, that will show the big bad corporations, that will create more job losses for the American workers, oh well, they should know better than to work there anyway, or it will even create job losses for the foreigners who’ve taken our outsourced jobs. Yeah! That will show them too! Oh wait, nope, the managers making all the bucks will fire the Americans first because they make more money. Damn.
That will give us more money so we can buy the cheap China crap and poison ourselves. Yeah! That sounds like a great plan!!!!!!
Seriously, you don’t have an answer anymore than anyone else does.
The reality of this campaign is that McCain is promoting to keep going with failed policies. Obama and Clinton have far fetched plans that may not work, but then again, maybe they will. It’s always better to have hope.
Later -
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Do you want to have a serious discussion or just make sh!t up?
I DID NOT call you a fascist and I went out of my way to note that. I said what you are describing i.e. private owned businesses controlled by government is fascism.
I am a free market capitalist and I’m also a FairTax supporter.
And talk about dense! I’ve described twice today why American companies can’t compete with foreign companies if forced to manufacture their goods with American workers and American materials under an onerous American tax system. The American product will cost too much.
By Mel
February 13, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
DUBYA, your comments, as usual, are right on. The Repugs are a sorry lot. They have had every opportunity to be educated, learn, and add something positive to this nation, but they never, ever do so. Their mission in life is one of hatred, jealousy, resentment, oppression, gross ignorance. Social misfits. Those people exist stictly in order to be told what to do in life and what NOT to do. Repub is just another religion of the sick, weak, and needy. Look at them. Listen to them. They offend the senses and make the heart sore. Their stench never changes. They need be eradicated from society, whatever the method needed.
By Ki Sung Kim
February 13, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Some of us have carefully boycotted Chinese goods since 1989, while others, in solidarity with Tibet, have boycotted much longer. We therefore are unlikely to have Chinese products in the rooms in which our computers are located. My IBM Thinkpad was made in Scotland. My printer was made in my native country, South Korea.
By John Q. Public
February 13, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
I’m seeing a lot of bs back and forth about our economy here today.
Like the GOP presumptive presidential candidate, I don’t have a great facility for economics.
But I do know, that a continuation of the policies that have caused the mortgage meltdown, inflamed energy prices, massively increased the number of Americans under the poverty level while also massively increasing the number of uber-wealthy, sent jobs overseas, caused the volitility in the markets, increased the number of uninsured. made feeding our kids crap cheaper than feeding them real food - continuation of these policies is just plain madness.
McCain will follow the Bush model. This will make things worse.
Whatever Obama does will be better.
By AntiRadical
February 13, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Good toon ML. It looks as if Reps have been foolishly successful in derailing Sen Clinton’s bid for the Presidency.
So, what is the reward for their efforts? It appears that they will be instrumental in installing an even more liberal Obama in the oval office.
The legacy of GWB may well end up being that he made it possible for the most liberal president of all time to assume command of our nation.
ML, you are absoltely correct- that thought is one of the most comical that has crossed before my eyes in many a year.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
Is Obama Good for Business? In the words of one consultant: “Business would have a seat at the table, but business wouldn’t be able to buy all the chairs” ………..After a tour of the Janesville (Wis.) General Motors Assembly Plant on Feb. 13, Obama plans to make a major speech laying out an economic agenda for the rest of the campaign, including details of his plan to restore “balance” to the economy and create millions of new jobs………….. Obama is not business’ candidate, but he may yet prove to be business’ partner
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
UN Chief: “Age Of Green Economics” Is Upon Us
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February 13, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
Obama Gets Huge Endorsement: Paul Volcker
By OBAMA
February 13, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
OBAMA IS A HYPOCRITE He wants to help the poor and give insurance to the uninsured. Sounds like this is becuase of his religion to have morals. On the other hand he believes in gay marriage and abortion. He is a hypocrite, and he has no major accomplishments to support him to be president besides a speech that was wrote for him and he is good with the media. Anyone asked him about his racist preacher yet? Didn’t think so.
By Bosch
February 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
RW,
You must be getting Alzeimer’s because you haven’t explained anything twice today - instead you are dancing around the issues. But I’m glad you FINALLY got around to saying this:
“if forced to manufacture their goods with American workers and American materials under an onerous American tax system. The American product will cost too much”
You say that in the future tense - that’s happened in the past and is happening now, there is no “it will cost too much” - it DOES cost too much.
Which, is the real problem at hand, now isn’t it?
Corporations don’t pay taxes, so the onerous American tax system really doesn’t apply here; and corporations are too cheap to pay Americans fair wages because it will cut into their profit - so they pay some Chinese guy $1/day to produce low quality crap (and yes, RB, that Chinese dude is overjoyed and glad to have it because that will feed his family for a week!) and until corporations are willing to spread a little of their profits around to American workers, our economy will still be just as stagnant.
I never suggested that private businesses be run by the government either. The corporations themselves have got to be willing to pass on some of their earnings to the citizens of the country where they are located.
It’s hard to take you serious when you claim to have such brilliant solutions to problems, but really what you are saying is the same old crap we’ve seen year after year.
But, to be a little bit more serious, just how are we supposed to stop buying some American produced items like electricity, water, natural gas. Everything is dependent upon gas and energy, and until we come to grips with that fact, which the Republicans are not doing, and at least the Democrats are starting to address these things, again, some old stagnant economy, only worse.
But actually, all this is a societal problem, not a political one. Like I said earlier, politicians can say they have a plan to help all this, but until Americans are willing to put their foot down and say “We’ve got to make some changes in our lifestyle” nothing will happen.
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Quote of the day said about Bosch.
“I sure would hate to have you running any businesses I’m invested in.”
Amen!!!
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Quote of the day said about Bosch.
“I sure would hate to have you running any businesses I’m invested in.”
Amen!!!
By Jesus
February 13, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
{{{{“If (Barack) Obama continues to win …. the whole raison d’etre for her campaign falls apart and we’ll see people running from her campaign like rats on a ship,” said Democratic strategist Jim Duffy, who is not aligned with either campaign.}}}}
They already have jumped ship:
{{{{An aide to Barack Obama says the man who led former President Clinton’s 1992 bid plans to endorse the Illinois senator. Obama’s campaign plans a 1 p.m. conference call Wednesday to announce the endorsement by David Wilhelm, who later became chairman of the Democratic National Committee.}}}}
Only the most wormy rats still cling to this wreck.
Bwa.
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February 13, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
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By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Your arguments get sillier by the day. Obviously we don’t stop buying something we need when there are no alternatives, but that isn’t the case when it comes to most consumer goods.
Corporations do pay the taxes they just pass them on to us, you can’t make that cost of the good being sold go away anymore than you could the raw materials.
{{{{{The corporations themselves have got to be willing to pass on some of their earnings to the citizens of the country where they are located.}}}}}
Why?
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Bosch, PLEASE go take some econ classes before you cast another vote. You are a complete train wreck in that department.
{{{Corporations don’t pay taxes, so the onerous American tax system really doesn’t apply here;}}} That’s priceless, Bosch!
Corporate taxes are 35%. That’s 35% that has to be ADDED to the cost of the product JUST TO SELL IT AT NO PROFIT. You pay that at the cash register, Bosch. The company collects it and sends it to Washington for you. They don’t get to spread that 35% to their employees.
You’re also whining about the rights of workers to organize. I’ll let you in on a little secret. Union labor rates are why Michigan is dying and nobody will open a business there. You can’t make any money paying someone $30/hr to sweep floors. Period. Those jobs aren’t coming back and NOTHING Obama or Clinton do will change that. NOTHING!!! It’s another empty promise for the sheep.
BTW, Bosch, what kind of car do you drive?
By mm
February 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Headcase,
Here’s some accomplishments.
No, the Republican congress can’t take credit for all of these.
But Clinton can take credit for working with a republican congress. He passed the bills.
Bush can take blame for not working with a Democratic congress. He vetoed the bills.
Now who was the better president?
Clinton, in a landslide.
By Pope -rednecks Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
February 13, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
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By Apocalypse
February 13, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
San Antonio Express-News Endorses Barack Obama Editorial: Obama better choice for Democratic nod
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America needs a president that tries to create unity out of diversity, marshalling all the forces — red, blue or purple — that make this country great.
Sen. Barack Obama is the Democratic candidate that offers the best chance to reach that lofty objective.
Obama is generating so much excitement that Sen. Hillary Clinton, once leading comfortably in the polls, is bracing for the fight of her life.
The Democratic nomination battle reflects the unique qualities each candidate brings to the table, qualities that center on character more than issues.
The rivals differ little when it comes to their positions, except on health care; Clinton favors mandated insurance, while Obama proposes a system that is affordable for everyone, leaving it up to the individuals to decide whether they want to sign up.
But the main difference comes down to approach. Obama expresses a message of hope that emphasizes what is good for the country, not the party.
Obama tends to falter in debates, his words sometimes unable to express the passion he feels inside. On the campaign trail, however, it is a different story, his words ringing with a clarity and energy that have been missing from a bitterly divided political landscape.
Clinton talks about her vast edge in experience, but much of it came as first lady, when her attempt to reform health care proved a colossal failure, mainly because of her inability to do what Obama advocates — reach across the aisle.
Before he was elected to the U.S. Senate, Obama earned a law degree from Harvard Law School, worked as a community organizer, taught law at the University of Chicago professor and spent eight years as a state senator in Illinois.
He has spent less time in Washington than Clinton, but he lacks the polarizing baggage that undoubtedly would hamper a Clinton presidency. And the fact that he is less embedded in the traditional ways of Capitol Hill has real advantages.
In addition, Clinton and her husband are running a campaign that has been, at turns, nasty and undignified. The Clinton team’s win-at-all-costs approach is a turn off to many voters, who are ready to leave today’s dysfunctional political culture behind.
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Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, DC join a sweep of eight straight victories since Barack won the most states and the most delegates on Super Tuesday.
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February 13, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Bill Clinton’s adviser endorses OBAMA:
COLUMBUS, Ohio - The man who served as national manager of former President Clinton’s 1992 campaign plans to endorse Sen. Barack Obama, an aide to Obama said Wednesday.
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By Bosch
February 13, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
RW,
Why? Because they are enjoying the benefits of BEING an American corporation. They are reaping all the rewards, and not giving anything back. It’s a one way system, and those don’t work out too well except for the ones receiving all the benefits.
Should the government intervene? Well, ideally no. It should never come to that. But, in some cases, I think the government should intervene on behalf of the citizens who are getting shafted by the corporation - like, say for example, in the oil business, healtcare industry, the Enron fiasco, etc, but certainly not to the point to where it is controlled by the government.
Who is picking up the slack in caring for workers whose jobs have been outsourced, or who have lost their pensions? The govenment, us, the taxpayers, so yes, they certainly have a right to intervene if the corporations can’t step up to the plate.
Gotta run - business to run, things to do.
Have a great evening.
By @@
February 13, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Since Bosch is a big advocate of “worker’s rights to organize” (unions), I thought he’d be interested in this.
An acquaintance of ours (Ford) employee laid out of work for two years due to some trivial injury that didn’t stop him from fishing, riding four-wheelers or nursing the daily doobie. When Ford in Hapeville closed up shop he was offered a severance package although he had been absent for two years. He refused and opted for placement at a Ford parts distribution center. The positions were filled by those with seniority.
Now I don’t understand how unions operate, but while he and 24 of his co-workers wait for placement, they sit at the Ford plant in Hapeville playing cards while being paid 90% of his regular salary.
Our acquaintance thinks it’s funny and says he couldn’t ask for a more cushy job.
It’s incomprehensible to me that this kind of “organized labor” can be supported by anyone, but then there are those bleeding heart liberals who would see his circumstances as unfortunate.
By RNC E-MAIL ALERT
February 13, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Barack Hussein Obama
By RE
February 13, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Time to make some sense.
I am about tired of hearing about how great the GOP is about finances. Please someone check my math on this, but here is a rough estimate of what running a budget deficit costs.
1 billion dollars of deficit spending costs 50 million dollars per year in interest to service at 5% interest. Bush’s budget which PLANS for a 450 billion dollar deficit will cost 22.5 billion dollars added into next years budget, and into every budget thereafter.
And people get worked up about a 150 million dollar bridge to nowhere. Pork Barrel spending is not the problem, it is a basic disconnect in washington between reality and rhetoric. For a comparison, the department of homeland security which entails customs, immigration, border enforcement, domestic nuclear non-proliferation, airline protection, the coast guard and FEMA has a budget of 35 billion per year while employing thousands. And with this budget we will be shelling out 22.5 billion while employing no one, not increasing security at all, and this will be a recurring debt to be paid every year until the debt is paid off. Now think about how much 9 trillion in debt costs to service, and we get nothing back for it.
Wake up
By Dusty
February 13, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS@2:20
So the Democratic slippery slug is telling the butterfly to watch out for slime.
Did you, ITN, slide off the keyboard typing that one?
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Maybe one of you Repug trolls can share with all us why your guy McCan’t first voted against Dubya’s tax cuts DURING A TIME OF WAR, saying it did not “make sense” then— but now he’s on the campaign trail arguing that Dubya’s tax cuts and senseless budget deficits SHOULD BE MADE PERMANENT?
Is this now his so-called Double-Talk Express campaign???
In 2001, McCain, along with Republican apostate Lincoln Chafee, were the only two Republican senators to vote against the first Bush tax cut. In 2003, he was one of three Republicans to vote against the second round, which is one of the reasons the Club for Growth hates him so much. McCain correctly noted that it didn’t make sense to cut taxes in a time of war, especially in ways that benefited the wealthy to such a large degree.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I would argue that it’s not much of a benefit to be an American Corporation and it’s certainly not a benefit if you sell goods both here and abroad, but let’s take your silly idea a little further. If you mandated, at a state or local level, that a corporation had to give x amount of dollars over and above all that they already pay you would have companies moving to other localities or states and if you did it at a federal level you would have them moving overseas.
I bet the workers and the local governments that just lost that tax base wouldn’t be too thrilled with the Bosch plan. How many communities do you think would be better off if businesses moved away?
{{{{{Who is picking up the slack in caring for workers whose jobs have been outsourced,}}}}}
Workers don’t have jobs, employers have jobs that they will fill with people that can help them earn a profit. If the skill level of the worker costs the company more than the value they gain from that worker that employer gives that job to someone that will allow the company to make a profit or eliminates that job altogether. The onus is on the worker to make money for the company not the other way around. Just wait until companies begin to realize how much time is spent by their employees blogging and find they can make the same goods or services with half the personnel.
Oh and the person that ought to pick up the slack is the person who had the job that wasn’t helping his former employer turn a profit.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Dusty says
So the Democratic slippery slug is telling the butterfly to watch out for slime.
Classic.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Dirty Tricks A former political operative explains how they’re done.
Dusty why do you support this kind of thing?
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
Rove’s Science of Dirty Tricks
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
I notice Bosch ignored the question about what kind of car she drives. Anybody want to bet it’s not an American made car?? Volvo maybe?
More cheap talk from the ivory tower…
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
I notice Bosch ignored the question about what kind of car she drives. Anybody want to bet it’s not an American made car?? Volvo maybe?
More cheap talk from the ivory tower…
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
Be Prepared to Protect Yourself and Fight Back………Republicans know if most people vote, they would never win so they try to demoralize the Democratic base and suppress the vote as much as possible, they buy some people off with tax cuts and scare the rest into voting against their own interests and that’s how they win. It’s a divide and conquer strategy that has worked well and they refine and expand it every election year.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Dirty tricks erupt in S.C. Republican campaign
By RE
February 13, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Volvo is an american car. Volvo is owned by ford.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
REPUBLICANS LEARN THEIR DIRTY TRICKS BY PRACTICING ON ONE ANOTHER
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
How to Rig an Election? Ask the Author
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
This ongoing and agonizing death of the neo-cons and their agenda is absolutely palpable!
Even at the esteemed fake conservative Wooten’s, there are probably six or seven posts denouncing the GOP’s imbecilic performance of the past 28 years for every one half-hearted deflection, justification or apology.
So long dedicated fans of pollution lovers, science haters, religious CON artists, chickenhawks, corporate wh0res and bumbling invaders!
And good luck trying to slither back into a position of political relevance or social significance anytime soon!
I wish I could say we hardly knew ya!
By Artie O'Bamma
February 13, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
TO David Plouffe:
You can tell your boss not to bother to start up that “Yes we can” chant again. If it didn’t work with Cesar’s “Si se puede” crowd on the coast it sure won’t spill any cerveza in El Paso. Try buying stock in Richardson. That ought to do it, if Clinton doesn’t already own controlling blocks.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Team Bush Paid Millions to Nathan Sproul—and Tried to Hide It
By Pequod
February 13, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
It may well be the case that Obama’s momentum carries him to the requisite number of delegates to receive the nomination without a brokered convention.
As a Democrat my only concern or main concern, is whether his nomination is more attributable to a rapidly growing cult of personality rather than a close evaluation of the merits of each candidate. I suspect that it is the former of the two.
Nevertheless, unlike the current occupant of the White House, both candidates are quite capable, and the election of McCain would only constitute a more competent continuation of that administration’s policies.
By Boschmobile
February 13, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Ten year-old, high-mpg Subaru mini wagon. Want to guess what’s on the rear bumper?
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Maybe it should change it’s name to:
DUHsperate
Very very duhsperate.
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
Osama bin Laden’s popularity in {{{{Pakistan is plunging, the AP said in a story Monday. It’s down to 24 percent in a poll conducted last month, from 46 percent in August. Backing for al Qaida fell from 33 to 18 per cent during the same period.}}}}
{{{{“That means the al Qaida has gone from being less popular than George Bush is in America, to being less popular than the Democrat controlled Congress,” the AP noted.}}}}
Hahahahahaha, oh, my.
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{{{{Mr. Gates judgment looks sound. The progress since last summer has been remarkable: In Baghdad, where a sectarian war seemed to be spiraling out of control a year ago, the number of attacks dropped 75 percent from June to last month. U.S. casualties since Oct. 1 are half the average for 2006, and the lowest for any similar period since the war began. But as Gen. Petraeus repeatedly has emphasized, the gains are fragile. It’s not certain that the relative peace in and around Baghdad will hold as American troop levels come down. A pause to weigh the situation — commanders are reportedly thinking of 30 to 90 days — would help ensure that what now looks like an opportunity to stabilize Iraq would not be squandered, along with the American lives sacrificed for it.-Washington Post}}}}
Bwa.
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
InTheNews @ 3:19 — I’m planning to buy that new hydrogen-fueled car as soon as I can finish paying for the Hummer in my driveway…
By Goldie
February 13, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Oh, Boschmobile @ 3:19 — that was your post! Anywho, my guess is it says “F the President”… those were very popular a few years ago!
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
If this is the direction in which John McCain wants the campaign to go, Democrats are even luckier than I had hoped.
By getalife
February 13, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
Well, the corporate dems in the Senate are against torture. Guess there is no money in it.
Of course, the bush dog dems in the House will vote for corporate amnesty like the Senate. They are trying to pass an extension but the bush dogs will vote against it.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
My guess would be {{{Visualize Whirled Peas}}}}
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The evil nasty filthy profiteers at the LA Times are laying off 100 to 150 people. Now there would be the perfect time to go and round up the blogging “workers” and can them first.
As you’veve just heard from Sam, we are going to be eliminating some jobs at our newspapers and at Tribune corporate. As Sam related, the revenue picture continues to be bad, and well worse than was forecast at the time our going private transaction was completed.
{{{{you’veve }}}} From a “news”paper publisher no less.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
The Bush administration’s decision to put six detainees at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, on trial before military tribunals and to seek the death penalty is both a betrayal of American ideals and simply bad strategy. Instead of being what they could and should be — a model of justice dispensed impartially, surely and dispassionately — the trials will proceed under deeply flawed procedures that violate this country’s basic fairness. The intense negative attention they will receive will do enormous damage to what is left of America’s standing in world opinion.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Conyers Introduces Contempt Resolution, Call for Lawsuit against White House
By Buy Danish
February 13, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Pandering doesn’t pay in Maryland.
{{{CHESTERTOWN, Md — Democratic Rep. Al Wynn and Republican Rep. Wayne Gilchrest were unseated Tuesday by primary challengers to the left and right respectively.
Voters registered dissatisfaction with both congressmen over their votes on Iraq — Wynn for his initial support for the war he later opposed and Gilchrest for his vote for a timetable to withdraw. He had originally voted in 2002 to authorize the United States to go to war in Iraq}}}
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
This entire election process just keeps getting better and better.
And NO ONE could make this stuff up!
{GodTube.com today announced that despite last night’s sweeping victory for John McCain, a stunning new GodTube.com poll reveals that if McCain wins his party’s nomination, Christian Conservatives would rather vote for one of the two Democratic candidates.
With a slim 9.1% support for McCain, and Huckabee a long shot for the nomination, Obama has become a viable choice for many Christian Conservatives with 26.3% of the Christian vote, up 8% from last week.
Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton showed no increase in the GodTube.com poll this week maintaining her 19.6% of the Christian vote.}
Praise Jebus!
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
[NEW YORK (Reuters) - Fear that a hobbled banking sector may set off another Great Depression could force the U.S. government and Federal Reserve to take the unprecedented step of buying a broad range of assets, including stocks, according to one of the most bearish market analysts.](http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSGOR27660220080212?sp=true0
From recession to depression…. not the first mention I have seen.
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Mulligan!
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Fear that a hobbled banking sector may set off another Great Depression could force the U.S. government and Federal Reserve to take the unprecedented step of buying a broad range of assets, including stocks, according to one of the most bearish market analysts.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Does it get cold in the room when the departed break out their “You Go Girl!” pom poms?
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
The Dems’ biggest win yesterday Posted February 13th, 2008 at 12:52 pm Share This | Spotlight | Permalink I received an email recently from a friend of mine with a reasonable question: why is it that so many Dems are so worked up about the Democratic primary fight in Maryland’s 4th congressional district? He could understand people in the area showing an interest, but the contest between incumbent Rep. Al Wynn (D) and challenger Donna Edwards (D) had captured the attention of bloggers and activists across the country. What’s the big deal?
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
The GOP is clearly in deep sh!t these days, right? I mean even the most irrational right winger would have a hard time denying that.
But why?
Which of the following issues is MOST likely for this near total collapse of the neo-con GOP?
1) Deceit and complete mismanagement of the Iraqi invasion/occupation?
2) Denying the legitimacy of the evidence that man-induced global warming is factual?
3) Attempting to use Christianity as a weapon of geopolitical policy (allowing Creationism to be taught in public school science classes)?
4) Unending scandals, corruption and the smear tactics exemplified by Karl Rove and Saxby Chambless?
5) Overall fiscal incompetence and corporate welfare at the detriment of the middle class?
6) Alienating, ignoring and insulting most of our international allies and alliances?
7) Closed door, back room deals that wreak of payoffs and fealty?
8) Failure to capture Osama Bin Laden?
9) Justifying the attempted deportation of 20 million people lock, stock and barrel?
10) A complete intransigence and unwillingness to participate in the give and take/negotiations of effective governance.
Or is it actually just a combination of all of the above?
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
For all of you who think Bushie stole the 2000 election:
{{{{An additional wild card is Florida and Michigan. Mrs. KKKlinton won both states’ primaries, but under current Democratic Party rules, their delegates will not be seated, punishment for holding their contests too early. Now, the Associated Press reports, “a prominent civil rights leader has told the Democratic National Committee that refusing to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would disenfranchise both states’ minority communities.”}}}}
Watch the rules change after the White Powers fall way behind in the delegate count.
Mark my words.
Obama/ Edwards followed the procedures set forth by the Demokrat National Kommittee but Ku Klux Klinton “ignored” them, setting the White Powers up for a fat, unopposed delegate grab.
Collusion between the Kommittee and the Klanners?
We’ll see.
~~~~~
{{{{Chris “Matthews: Obama Speech Caused ‘Thrill Going Up My Leg’ “}}}}
Eeewwwwwww.
Now that’s what I call taking the demokrat party platform to it’s, uh, conclusion.
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{{{{Read that again: The head of a mental hospital (allegedly) provided women under his care to al Qaeda to use as human bombs, for the purpose of murdering as many innocent people as possible. We are at a loss for words to characterize the depth of this evil.}}}}
{{{{It makes you wonder about the folks who condemn America with such self-righteous zeal over morally ambiguous practices like “waterboarding” terrorists or even generally accepted practices such as holding enemy combatants for the duration of wartime. One suspects that they do so primarily out of fear—in order to close their minds to the contemplation of true evil.-Taranto}}}}
Either that or they are “taking on” the safe target, America.
Kowards.
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
By RE 3:08 PM
{{{Volvo is an american car. Volvo is owned by ford.}}}
I believe I said American “made” car. Are they building them in the US now?
By IN THE NEWS
February 13, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Matthews probes Thompson’s smell, “sex appeal.”Glenn Greenwald highlighted this series of questions from MSNBC’s Chris Matthews last night: Does [Fred Thompson] have sex appeal? … Gene, do you think there’s a sex appeal for this guy, this sort of mature, older man, you know? … Can you smell the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke? You know, whatever.
AND
The Many Man-Crushes of Chris Matthews
First he had the hots for the GOP candidates…..
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
By RE 3:08 PM
{{{Volvo is an american car. Volvo is owned by ford.}}}
I believe I said American “made” car. Are they building them in the US now?
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
By Boschmobile 3:19 PM | Link to this
{{{Ten year-old, high-mpg Subaru mini wagon. Want to guess what’s on the rear bumper?}}}
My guess would be several dents the shape of the tree in your yard.
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
By Boschmobile 3:19 PM | Link to this
{{{Ten year-old, high-mpg Subaru mini wagon. Want to guess what’s on the rear bumper?}}}
My guess would be several dents the shape of the tree in your yard.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
For Mr. Obama, who is not a country music entertainer, the award represents a significant upset since it had been expected to go to longtime country favorite Kenny Chesney.
{{{{{Mr. Obama barely had time to cobble together an acceptance speech when he received word that he had also won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry.}}}}}
By RE
February 13, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Nope, closest Volvo plant is in Canada.
I drive a Chevy Avalanche. American Truck. Made in Canada.
Nothing is made in the US anymore. Ross Perot was right, Nafta was a mistake.
By Boschmobile
February 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
How f@#&!ng ridiculous! It says “Mean People Suck”, you sniveling snout of psychopathicissitude.
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
By RE 4:51 PM | Link to this {{{Nothing is made in the US anymore. Ross Perot was right, Nafta was a mistake. }}}
You better go look at when that plant was built. Volvo was making cars in Canada and Chrysler was making those nifty mini vans in Canada long before NAFTA.
By Glenn
February 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
And ain’t it great, AmVet? To think that one party accomplished all that in just seven years! You gotta love it. It’s not such an Old Party, but is sure is Grand.
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
By RE 4:51 PM | Link to this {{{Nothing is made in the US anymore. Ross Perot was right, Nafta was a mistake. }}}
You better go look at when that plant was built. Volvo was making cars in Canada and Chrysler was making those nifty mini vans in Canada long before NAFTA.
By RE
February 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
so RB,
Does that make BMW an american made car because of the plant in south carolina?
How about Kia?
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Ahh, yes, taking care of the little guys:
{{{{A Portsmouth, N.H., landlord says he finally received his check for $500 for a five-day stay by volunteers for Hillary KKKlinton’s campaign in January.}}}}
{{{{But the ordeal — which included leaving his warehouse property trashed with campaign signs – left him sore, so he’s donating the cash to Barack Obama’s campaign.}}}}
{{{{Bennett’s missing reimbursement wasn’t the only one, the Herald found. An Iowa businessman told the paper he’s owed more than $7,000 by the Kampaign.}}}}
A solid month after the story broke and the White Power Millionaires finally scrounge up five hundred bucks, only because they got caught.
Let’s review: The Bigots promise the dim and the poor that they will lavish upon them much governmental treasures but what, pray tell, did they actually do while in office?
Took away your welfare checks, you silly mouth breathers.
You mean nothing to these Exalted Pooh Bahs.
By getalife
February 13, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Well, the gop tried to pass the Senate FISA bill and it failed.
The extension failed too so w’s head will explode on the MSM.
The Senate passed no torture for the CIA but McInsane vote yes on torture.
Yes folks, he has flipped flopped on torture.
By RE
February 13, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
anyone hear the clinton comment last night about all hat and no cattle.
Is it a bright idea for the campaign to promote the idea that hillary is the heiffer in the race?
By Glenn
February 13, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
I believe one of the Kosmuffins here had the poor judgment earlier to insist that conservatives read Mr. Obama’s issue statements and policy proposals. It would take approximately forty bloggers to give a synopsis in half a day of all the policy Noamenklatura slapped together by the idiot savants who made that gorgeously vapid site, but here’s a start.
On early childhood education: More, and earlier.
On K-12 education: The system is broken, therefore we need much more of the system, at a cost of much more money.
On the teaching force: It sucks, of course. Therefore we need more teachers, more good teachers, more highly paid teachers.
On Higher Education: It ain’t broke, so fix it as expensively as possible.
Hope. Change. Unity. More. More. More.
By getalife
February 13, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Speaking of welfare checks. w signed the stimulus billed and your welfare checks will be in the mail.
By Scott
February 13, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
The Drunken Dunce signs the “stimulus package.” What a pathetic joke from a pathetic life form.
I’m heading out. Happy VD to all the Repug gerbils here!
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Glenn, perhaps like the Germans and Japanese, the Republicans need to be completely routed before they can rejoin the rest of us.
I still contend that the Democratic Party offers little hope for paving the way to an effective 21st century America. They will play their part, but they too, are pretty much stuck in the same old game of corruption and payola.
And I still contend there is SOME hope for the GOP, but probably not in the near future. And not as long as the Dobsons, Roves, and Cheneys play more than the tiniest part in the laying out of the future of the GOP.
So not until and unless a new generation of Republicans can, and will turn away, and I mean completely away, from their current and many failed Reaganesque policies and have theri long overdue political epiphany, will most Americans trust them again.
McCain is a first good baby step in that direction.
But obviously way too little, way too late to truly help the once Grand Old Party.
By RE
February 13, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Personal note here, my baby boy got his first tooth last week, he is a happy healthy boy.
Problem is every time he smiles with that one tooth in his mouth it reminds me of dusty.
By getalife
February 13, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
Yes, crusty has a meth problem.
“Hillary Clinton did not support NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement) and was very much against the president taking that position,” Huerta claimed. “As a senator, she voted against the Central American Free Trade Agreement and the Korean Free Trade Agreement. So I think her position is fairly clear on that.”
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
Democrats who think it’s going to be a cakewalk into the White House next November had best remember one name: Condoleezza Rice.
Word up.
{{{{McCain’s troubles with the religious wing of his party could well evaporate with the churchgoing Rice at his side. She solidifies that part of his base overnight.}}}}
{{{{With Rice on the ticket, the GOP would have somebody to get enthusiastic about. The Secretary of State is immensely popular with Republicans. For a party that up to now has been clueless about how to run against either a woman or a person of color, Condoleezza Rice is pure political gold.}}}}
{{{{Woe to any Democrat who thinks taking her on in a debate is a sure thing. The woman is tough, fast on her feet and able to give better than she gets. Anyone who has seen her in action testifying in front of a hostile House or Senate committee knows that she will be able to wipe up the floor with a plodding, ordinary pol of a Democratic vice-presidential candidate. Take Rice lightly at your peril.}}}}
The very thought sends chills up my, uh, spine.
Bwa.
By Glenn
February 13, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
Yeah, that’s Peggy’s kick too, and I’m starting to warm to it. Gotta go down to get up. There’s that one nagging problem, though: call me a fear monger all you want, but Hillary or Obama will get us either nuked or nukemailed before you can say “Bay of Pigs”. And neither one of them has a whit of experience or training in diplomacy or military science.
The young-at-heart who flock to Obama have no fricking idea how dangerous this world is without our bayonets affixed. On the contrary, they’re seized with movement nostalgia for an America in which rifle barrels are once again flower vases.
For her part Clintons has as much use for the military as Gore has for his personal pilot.
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Condi Rice!
Omigawd!
There is no doubt that McCain can still easily lose the election in November and a sure fired wayto ensure that is to pick a horrible choice for VP.
(Granted it didn’t hurt King George II, but times have changed haven’t they?!)
I have this nagging feeling he is going to do that very thing though…
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Glenn, I gather you are referring to Peggy Noonan? If so, I have seen her name mentioned here a few times, but do not know anything about her, nor as you probably know, am interested in reading virtually anything from the pundits. Left or right.
And I completely concur that the complete lack of relevant experience in matters diplomatic or military are dangerous. Look at what the past seven plus years got us.
That’s why IMHO, Richardson was such a better choice.
But the oft used, and frankly stale, argument that the Clintons, and Democrats et al, hate the military is just Republican claptrap.
IF, and it is a GIGANTIC if, the GOP supports the military, it is from afar, VERY afar, and has been shown to be completely without merit and solely for show.
(I have for MANY years, but especially in the past few, been uber-suspicious of those who “wear their patriotism on their sleeves”. It does not impress me in the slightest.)
That kids and blacks flock to Obama is understandable. But their fervent blindness is to me reminiscent of the “faithful” and their “conservative” candidates. Probably uninformed, unwilling to be persuaded by the facts and ultra-passionate.
By Glenn
February 13, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this
Ogawd, I hope not. The last thing we need right now is more of McCain’s half-clever tokenism. If he makes the racial or gender play of pitting Condi respectively against the black male nominee or the white female one, McCain will have turned the clock back on us.
I happen to dig Condi, but no. No. She should stay the hell out of this.
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
Vice Presidential candidate Condoleezza Rice is the Bomb.
1) McBushie would instantly have all ten or so of my votes.
2) He would start day one with foreign policy expertise, who better than one of the principles of the surge and the chief negotiater for US policy in the world?
Despite the pinkos whining about it, the vast majority of Americans want to win in Iraq.
3) McCain is a one term president and guess who would be the incumbent for the 2012-20 presidency.
4) The inbred racism in the demokrat party would be totally unleashed, spilling over in a noxious plume of degenerate depravity that would probably cause Obama to withdraw from his candidacy in disgust of his own party.
Trust me, the Kiddies would be drawing cartoons, writing horrible opinion columns, calling her all manner of terrible names, they wouldn’t be able to control themselves.
We win.
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this
If McCain wants to cr@p the bed with his Veep choice, I say he should go all the way and choose the uber-nutjob Alan Keyes!
Oh the irony of him on a ticket running against the man he said Jesus wouldn’t vote for- Obama!
By @@
February 13, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
Good grief, the national security adviser in Iraq knows the dem candidates better than the dim voters…
(((Al-Rubaie said he would like to see U.S. forces draw down steadily to below 100,000 by the end of 2008. He also said he thought it was unlikely U.S. Democratic Party candidates for president would be able to keep pledges to rapidly pull out U.S. forces if they are elected this year to succeed President George W. Bush.)))
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
More than any legislation approved so far, the three measures have the potential to spur reconciliation between Sunnis and Shiites and set the country on the road to a more representative government.
{{{{{The three laws are the 2008 budget, a law outlining the scope of provincial powers — a crucial aspect of Iraq’s self-definition as a federal state — and an amnesty that will cover thousands of the detainees held in Iraqi jails, including thousands of Sunnis, many of whom have been held without charges for months and, in a few cases, more than a year. It will be the largest release at one time since 2003.}}}}}
The source is somewhat suspect though.
By Glenn
February 13, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
Big dif is that with the conservatives to whom the “true believers” flocked, we knew what we were getting. With Obama, I mean WTF? This is getting as ridiculous as the Berkeley City Council is.
I’ve never thought of Peggy as a pundit. She does still write for a living, and on public affairs of course, but stylistically she’s an unabashed emotivist, not really an analyst in the pundit sense. (At least I wouldn’t take her as one.)
Richardson definitely does negotiate well, but some things, e.g. the Berlin Wall, are non-negotiable. Also it still rankles that he was asleep at the switch during a crucial time for the Dept. of Energy.
I realize that neither Bill nor Hillary ever said something like “I” or “we” “hate the military”, and I’m sure that Gore likes his pilot who keeps the plane running on the tarmac while the man trots the globe accepting his accolades. My grandmother liked her servants too.
The military is not fooled by those fools. (And you and I could rack up quite a list of ways in which the Bush Administration has let down the military, but throughout W’s incumbency most personnel have been damned glad that he wasn’t Bill Clinton.)
Obama may be different on military and veterans affairs. He say’s he is. I hope he is. But they’ll hate him forever if he makes them cut and run, call it what he may. Moreover, irrespective of Obama’s future, it is those personnel who will lead this country’s future.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
It says something about his national security world view, or his callowness, that Mr. Obama would vote to punish private companies that even the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee said had “acted in good faith.” Had Senator Obama prevailed, a President Obama might well have been told “no way” when he asked private Americans to help his Administration fight terrorists. Mr. Obama also voted against the overall bill, putting him in MoveOn.org territory
By AmVet
February 13, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this
Condi - the woman Donald Trump, who knows a thing or two about making big time deals, said was the reason we have been outplayed by nearly everyone in the world, including Hugo Chavez.
A nice lady, but a third rate amateur indeed Donald. You hit that one right on the head!
And we’ve just endured 7 plus years of a whole slew of these third rate amateurs!
Their day is thankfully done.
Glenn, I have seen numbers that reflect active duty personnel, including those in country, and vets are moving away from the GOP in droves.
Yes, more probably than not still vote Republican but the gap has closed dramatically. That’s what a bungled invasion based on almost-truths gets ya.
They deserved MUCH better, I think we all agree.
By Glenn
February 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
RW-(t.o.)
Allowing for my overuse of the word, do you see any instance in which Obama has been SERIOUS? So far he’s anti-gravitas, a total helium balloon. Is there a string anywhere? Does his wife hold him down? Is he anchored at all?
By Luckoduh
February 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
{{{{Rice attended a course on international politics taught by Josef Korbel, the father of future Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. This experience sparked her interest in the Soviet Union and international relations and made her call Korbel “one of the most central figures in my life.”}}}}
{{{{Rice graduated from St. Mary’s Academy in 1970. In 1974, at age 19, Rice earned her B.A. in political science, Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver. In 1975, she obtained her Master’s Degree in political science from the University of Notre Dame. She first worked in the State Department in 1977, during the Carter administration, as an intern in the Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs. In 1981, at the age of 26, she received her Ph.D. in Political Science from the Graduate School of International Studies at Denver. Her dissertation along with some of her earliest publications, centered on military policy and politics in Czechoslovakia.}}}}
{{{{From 1989 through March 1991 (the period of the fall of Berlin Wall and the final days of the Soviet Union), she served in President George H.W. Bush’s administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In this position, Rice helped develop Bush’s and Secretary of State James Baker’s policies in favor of German reunification. She impressed Bush, who later introduced her to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev as the one who “tells me everything I know about the Soviet Union.”}}}}
Yeah, amateur.
By Dusty
February 13, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this
RE 5:40
Glad you have such a cute baby. But I do have more than one tooth, all of ‘em in fact.
Amvet, many times
Is there anything in this wide wide world that you like? You have never mentioned it. Must be a pretty dark place where you live. You seem to be in the shadows about almost everything. Happy Valentine Day, gloomy! Wake up and smell the roses!!
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this
I don’t know what Tesco did or didn’t promise, but businesses don’t exist to “serve underserved communities.” They exist to make money. Democrats and especially people like Obama who have never worked in private enterprise just don’t seem to get that.
{{{{{While I’m sure that politicians routinely lean on corporations to change their behavior, few politicians are co-sponsoring a bill that would legally designate corporations as either patriotic or not patriotic based on whether their practices met with liberal approval or not, and would deal with those companies differently based on their patriot status. In this case, Obama refers Tesco to an outfit called the Los Angeles Alliance for Healthy & Responsible Grocery Stores. They’re not a government agency, nor do they appear to be friendly to private enterprise. A quick check of their site shows that it’s an agglomeration of unions, far-left activists and other Democrats. I bet there isn’t an economist in the lot. They also appear to have been organized solely to antagonize Tesco. Thus, they’re hardly a fair arbiter worthy of Obama’s imprimatur. This letter to Tesco looks like a sop to the unions and activists.}}}}}
By RB from Gwinnett
February 13, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this
By @@ 6:44 PM
(((He also said he thought it was unlikely U.S. Democratic Party candidates for president would be able to keep pledges to rapidly pull out U.S. forces if they are elected this year to succeed President George W. Bush.)))
@@, the dem candidates know that too, but they won’t tell that to the sheep and the sheep aren’t smart enough to figure it out on their own.
By RW-(the original)
February 13, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
Obama did come out with a serious proposal to give $4,000.00 per year that he will take from either us or Big Oil to give to college kids as long as they’ll agree to learn a foreign language or some other such list of things he deems community service and probably includes voting for him.
By the way, I’m on the side that would be thrilled to have Dr. Rice on the ticket. It’s hard to consider someone that just spent four years as National Security adviser and then another four as Secretary of State a token.
By Glenn
February 14, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
That’s what I summarized as: Higher Ed? It ain’t broke. Therefore let’s fix it with more, and more still.