Atlanta Opinion

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Yeah, I know, “war” in Iraq has reduced the roles of “disease, death and famine.”

He should be happy to hear about Iran.

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Look at the wormy Urinal trying to ease back into their anti American Iraq reports:

{{{{IRAQ DEVELOPMENTS- A drive-by shooting in Mosul killed a university professor and a student.-Urinal}}}}

Uh, yeah:

{{{{Man Injured in Drive Up Shooting Near Sunset and La Brea- January 30, 2008, Los Angeles.}}}}

Let me guess, there’s no political “progress” in Iraq either, right, scumbags?

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{{{{METRO BRIEFS: Georgian among troops killed in (((ambush))) in Iraq-Urinal}}}}

Dictionary.Com- Ambush: an act or instance of lying concealed so as to attack by surprise: The highwaymen waited in ambush near the road.

{{{{They died from wounds suffered when their unit encountered an improvised explosive device during convoy operations Jan. 28 in Mosul, Iraq.-MNF-Iraq}}}}

The way the Urinal uses the word “ambush,” and they are doing this purposefully, is to convey an image of a strong enemy in Iraq.

Blowing a bomb up from thousands of yards away does not take much guts.

Neither does using your “news” paper to propagandize against America.

That’s why spineless gutless wonder pinkos are the ones doing it.

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Ahh, yes, liberal democrat account keeping:

{{{{Atlanta budget deficit at $70 million-Urinal}}}}

A puny little city budget, with the highest taxes and surcharges in the Atlanta area, a major source of revenue from an airport that they hold hostage and they’re still losing money.

A fine example of what they would do to America.

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

{{{{After watching him huff and puff up the issue of race in a way that Americans have not seen since the presidential campaigns of the late George Wallace, the former Boy President, rather than being our first black president, is our second redneck president. Now, after his repeated acts of treachery in South Carolina, we see a Bill actively turning whites and blacks in his own party against each other. Moreover, he wants to encourage ill-will between Latinos and blacks within his party. He is making these invidious efforts purely to bring his family back to power. Though I have called him a sociopath, I thought that when it came to the issue of race he might be more scrupulous.}}}}

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{{{{This was first brought to my attention by the Pakistani Consul General who came to offer condolences at our home in California. When we spoke about the anti-Semitic element in Danny’s (Pearl) murder she said: “What can you expect of these people who never saw a Jew in their lives and who have been exposed, day and night, to televised images of Israeli soldiers targeting and killing Palestinian children.”}}}}

{{{{At the time, it was not clear whether she was trying to exonerate Pakistan from responsibility for Danny’s murder, or to pass on the responsibility to European and Arab media for their persistent de-humanization of Jews, Americans and Israelis. The answer was unveiled in 2004, when a friend told me that photos of Muhammad Al Dura were used as background in the video tape of Danny’s murder.}}}}

{{{{Al Dura, readers may recall, is the 12-year-old Palestinian boy who allegedly died from Israeli bullets in Gaza in September of 2001. As we now know, the whole scene is very likely to have been a fraud, choreographed by stringers and cameramen of France 2, the official news channel of France. France 2 aired the tape repeatedly and distributed it all over the world to anyone who needed an excuse to ratchet up anger or violence, among them Danny’s killers.}}}}

{{{{The Pakistani Consul was right. The media cannot be totally exonerated from responsibility for Daniel’s murder, as well as for the “tsunami of hate” that has swept the world and continues to rise.}}}}

How many “atrocity” photos have you faked, Atlanta Journal Constitution?

How much blood do you have on your hands?

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 31, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

The American People: Fiddle-dee-dee. War, war, war; this war talk’s spoiling all the fun at every party this spring. I get so bored I could scream. Besides… there isn’t going to be any war.

John McCain: Not going to be any war? Why, honey, of course there’s gonna be a war.

The American People: If either of you boys says “war” just once again, I’ll go in the house and slam the door.

John McCain: But America, Don’t you want us to have a war?

If John McCain continues to talk about staying in Iraq for 20, 50 or 100 years, if he can�t talk about creating a lasting peace, the American people will not sit beside him at the barbeque.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 31, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

So Rudy drops out. Finally a Republican with an exit strategy.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 31, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

The one positive thing you can say about our Duh is he stays on message. Even if that message is hand scooped out of his septic tank.

By @@

January 31, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

Nag…nag…nag…nag? This is YOUR life ml?

Giddyup cowboy.

(((By rushncap January 30, 2008 7:48 PM)))

(((I�d hate to live inside that head of yours. Ugh�)))

rushncap:

You couldn’t get inside my head if you wanted to. No room for “downers” like you.

By @@

January 31, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Nag…nag…nag…nag? This is YOUR life ml?

Giddyup cowboy.

(((By rushncap January 30, 2008 7:48 PM)))

(((I�d hate to live inside that head of yours. Ugh�)))

rushncap:

You couldn’t get inside my head if you wanted to. No room for “downers” like you.

By Goldie

January 31, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Be sure to vote for a Repuglican if you want “other wars” — apparently 2 simultaenous occupations of foreign countries is not enough for those war-mongers!

And they don’t even want to talk about how many tours of duty our Nat’l Guard are having to pull in support of their war policies!

Get rid of the Repuglicans in November and we’ll get rid of a lot of terrorists who are emboldened by our endless occupation of their countries!

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

24 Hours After Touting Clean Coal In SOTU, White House Drops Ambitious Clean Coal Project

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Key 9/11 Commission Staffer Held Secret Meetings With Rove, Scaled Back Criticisms of White House

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

LONDON (Reuters) - More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict in their country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to research conducted by one of Britain’s leading polling groups. The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Business (ORB) with 2,414 adults in face-to-face interviews, found that 20 percent of people had had at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict, rather than natural causes.

Now lets hear from the new generation of deniers.

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Why McCain Will Be Defeated in November [VIDEO]

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I like the four men of the apocalypse cartoons. I’ve been calling Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove that since the war began. I voted for the other one for best cartoon of the year.

Good job Luckovich.

McCain - I used to respect the man YEARS ago, now, not at all. Sigh…

By w00t

January 31, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

There should be a draft, so that everyone in this country is exposed to the glory of war. I mean, when you die you have extra lives, right?

By GA Vet

January 31, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

I’m saying this as an Obama supporter, so take it as you will, but McCain is not a bad choice. As much as I’ve disagreed with our mess in Iraq—and disgusted with the way it violated the Powell doctrine—I’ve come to the conclusion that we have no choice but to maintain a presence for a few more years. We caused this mess, we have to be responsible for helping to fix it. We need to stop patrolling like occupiers as soon as a viable security force can take over an area. We should be less and less visible and only take part in operations that need our muscle. It’s sad, but there is honestly no other option. Whatever the Democrats say, if they manage to win, they will do no different—they can’t. I hope they can get more world assistance with the mess though.

I guess what I’m saying is that if Obama doesn’t get the nomination, McCain is a better option than Hillary. We’ve had enough Bushes and Clintons—throw the bums out.

By Mike

January 31, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Wow!!! A Luckovich attack on a conservative!! Didn’t see that coming.

Good thing there is nothing to comment on in the Democrat race.

By Can't Resist

January 31, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Wow! A conservative that is surprised when a liberal political cartoonist attacks a conservative!

Good thing there are no conservative papers, or websites, or cartoonists for him to read.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

GA Vet,

What you said about Iraq, I told my son the exact same thing last night.

By Chip Shirley

January 31, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

I am a liberal non-churchgoer and I believe that something special happened last night. Mike Huckabee won that debate going away and the American people saw it. I’ve been referring to him as ‘Mr. Huckabee Goes to Washington in reference to the classic movie. Last night the comparison seemed more real than ever. I challenge anyone to read the transcript of the debate and not agree with me. Here’s the link and please read more about Mike at mikehuckabee.com Transcript:http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/30/GOPdebate.transcript/index.html

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Oh my God! Britney Spears is in the hospital again? [As I roll my eyes]

The media needs to leave this poor train wreck alone. In my opinion, they are the reason she’s sick. Let her be crazy in peace!

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 31, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

I wanted to be the first blogger today and I wanted to post something rambling and irrelevent but I wasn’t up to the challenge. Guess who I decided to delegate this task to?

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

John,

The early bird gets the worm, you know.

So, what about those mermaids, man? I’m so glad they are going to be state employees, now they will have good health insurance, but does it cover vet bills too? Will they be able to choose their own vet?

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

[WASHINGTON � Four months after announcing troop reductions in Iraq, President Bush is now sending signals that the cuts may not continue past this summer, a development likely to infuriate Democrats and renew concerns among military planners about strains on the force.]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/washington/30military.html?ref=todayspaper)

By ed lorenzo

January 31, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Bleak 2008 ELECTION YEAR For an entire year we have been exposed to something similar to physical torture. Everywhere you turned during each and every one of the 365 days of the year 2007 you ran into the faces of 20 candidates for the presidency of the republic, endless TV and Radio commentary, article upon article with pros, cons and did you know?, sensational revelations about the type of toothpaste used by the candidates, videos, U-Tube, U-Save, U-Know, U-Bother Me, and an endless and shapeless diet of nonsense, inanity and so what! But now, in 2008 we will only have four candidates and toward the end only two. How are we going to substitute the relentless media attacks that have become an organic craving by now? We could make the election year of 2008 not only interesting but also lively to an extreme. I would start by taking Ralph Nader seriously and letting him get a spot in the line-up. Then I would get Pat Buchanan who can enlighten us with his own versions of our history. We will need Ross Perot to introduce a touch of Western sophistication and promote future wars. Then we must have Al Gore to replace the sleeping pills we take throughout the day. To demonstrate our total absence of racial prejudice we also invite an Asian like Mister Wu, my private nuclear physicist, the Al Sharpton-Reverend Jackson duet, the Mind of Mencia and, of course, Steven Colbert. How about Bill Clinton? you might ask. Save him for 2012!

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

{{{{By John in Tampa, FLA January 31, 2008 9:34 AM I wanted to be the first blogger today and I wanted to post something rambling and irrelevent but I wasn�t up to the challenge. Guess who I decided to delegate this task to?}}}}

In exchange for this honor, I requested that some whiny pinko with no life would get angry about who posts what when on some silly blog and would then post a crying jag about it, when their as-s finally rose up from the bed at 9:34 AM.

Thanks John!

By getalife

January 31, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Damn John,

That is hilarious.

Lets take a look at that drivel:

War with Iran, check.

Genocide in Iraq and more wasted American lives, check.

Yes, that is our resident war monger whack job.

Duh.

By Apocalypse

January 31, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Ha!

A cartoon based on my concept. I should sue.

By harold

January 31, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

JiTFLA said: “Guess who I decided to delegate this task to?”

My guess would be Bosch.

“Oh my God! Britney Spears is in the hospital again? [As I roll my eyes]

The media needs to leave this poor train wreck alone. In my opinion, they are the reason she�s sick. Let her be crazy in peace!”

“So, what about those mermaids, man? I�m so glad they are going to be state employees, now they will have good health insurance, but does it cover vet bills too? Will they be able to choose their own vet?”

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

ITN,

I can’t wait until the Philistines are thrown from their temple and we can REALLY look at what those energy oligarchs and Cheney came up with to enrich themselves and destroy our environment.

They must not care that they have grandchldren.

It’s for people such as them I wish there was a god. Some good Old Testament “Vengence” visited upon them would be quite fitting!

But, since god is a myth…

By Apocalypse

January 31, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

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From: Jim aka นาย ซาหนุก
Date: Jan 30, 2008 10:11 PM

————————- Bulletin Message ————————-
From: objectinmotion
Date: Jan 30, 2008 9:04 PM

PLEASE COPY AND REPOST FOR ALL LATINOS IN MESSAGES AND BULLETINS
POR FAVOR COPIE Y NUEVO POSTE PARA TODO LATINOS EN MENSAJES Y BOLETINES

“JE VOUS DEMANDE DE CROIRE.
Non seulement dans ma capacit� d’apporter
du changement r�el en Am�rique,
Je vous demande de croire dans le v�tre. “
“I’M ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE.
Not just in my ability to bring
about real change in America,
I’m asking you to believe in yours.”

��Los votantes Latino de los Estados Unidos de Am�rica son de gran importancia finalmente ahora que un candidato corre al presidente que tiene una preocupaci�n profunda y genuina por minor�as aqu� en Am�rica!!! El Barack Obama es, una minor�a, y �l solo valores y respeta la determinaci�n y el amor por este pa�s que Latinos sostienen en sus corazones. Ning�n otro candidato en esta elecci�n comparte las luchas que Latinos han afrontado y ning�n otro candidato ha luchado por los derechos y las libertades del Latinos como Barack Obama durante m�s de veinte a�os. ��El nombre que Barack significa “muchas bendici�nes de Dios” y nosotros ahora le pide echar su voto para esperanza y cambio apoyando Barack Obama para el presidente de los Estados Unidos de Am�rica de modo que podamos compartir en las bendici�nes de Dios que Barack trae a la gente de Am�rica!!!

The Latino voters of The United States of Ameri

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

CR @ 9:24,

Did you clear that description of the scribbler as a liberal cartoonist with the scribbler? He claims to be a centrist.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

harold,

Lighten up. It’s Thursday. Get a sense of humor, will you?

Off to soccer world, be back later.

By Apocalypse

January 31, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Read truthman’s 10:05.

That’s why the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

By Diogenes

January 31, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Excellent cartoon, Mike.

Of course, all McCain has to sell is his willingness to make war. You depict well his bloodthirstiness.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Apocalypse

I took a look at some other survey numbers. I know the basis of the survey population counts for a lot, but in general it seems Hillary still has a formidable lead in many states. It’ll still be tough for momentum to be enough to overcome Hillary’s political machine.

Goldie - Mrs Godzilla

Today’s ‘toon - yesterday morning’s discussion before server seemed to freeze - topic was cited along with McCain’s economy comments, which I cited in context.. Making an observation is different from advocating. Saying yeah, we’re gonna have more wars strikes me as realistic. After WWI the cry was “this was the war to end all wars.” People were tired of war and didn’t want to hear it. But someone who said “this wasn’t the last” would have been correct.

Remember the follow-on in a debate: “Sen Clinton, Sen McCain said this country would face wars in the future. Under your Presidency, can you say America will not under any circumstances have a war?” Followed, of course, by her commitment to invade a sovereign Arab nation, Pakistan, to kill OBL. Followed by a question along the lines of “after you invade Pakistan, if another ME country struck at America, are you saying you wouldn’t…”

Gets sticky, doesn’t it?

Same with mischaracterization of McCain’s economic comments. Rule of thumb: before belittling an opponent, make sure the same theme can’t be used against you.

For example, in a McCain-Obama debate: “Sen Obama, Sen McCain was criticized for saying he didn’t know as much about economics as he wanted to , in spite of the knowledge he gained serving as Chairman of the Commerce Committee. Do you, Sen Obama, know everything you need to know about foreign affairs, even though you haven’t served as chair on any such committees?”

Could use that to test Hillary’s “experience,” too.

As far as Romney’s no jobs coming back: if it’s Michigan and they are auto jobs, no kidding. Companies make the decision to build heavy, gas-hungry vehicles in interest of short-term profits, Congresses and Administrations aid them with no fuel economy adjustments or for giving thousands in tax credits for big SUVs, then the market changes and people buy other vehicles. Of course jobs aren’t going to stay the

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

By w00t 8:59 AM

{{{There should be a draft, so that everyone in this country is exposed to the glory of war. I mean, when you die you have extra lives, right?}}}

What planet is this fool from?

{{{By Chip Shirley 9:26 AM I am a liberal non-churchgoer}}}

That’s redundant, Chip.

By Truthman 10:05 AM | {{{But, since god is a myth�}}}

More of the democratic party platform from one of our many resident Christian hating athiests. BTW, TM, I notice you didn’t capitalize “God” in your text and I suspect that’s on purpose. I wonder if you’ll have to give an account for that on your judgement day?

By Can't Resist

January 31, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Wow! A conservative that is surprised when a CENTRIST political cartoonist attacks a conservative!

Good thing there are no conservative papers, or websites, or cartoonists for him to read.

If we wanted a liberal point of view we’d ask John McCain or Mike Huckabee.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

ITN

Few days ago you seemed to imply Candidate Romney was responsible for Time-Warner showing adult shows in Marriott hotels, as Romney served on Marriott’s board. Following that same logic, where are the MediaMatters links showing Candidate Hillary’s responsibility for fighting for corporate interests over workers’ fair treatment, not allowing unions, as she served on WalMart’s board for six years? If they spin it that she began a program to bring more women to positions of power, I’m waiting to read their commentary on how ineffective a leader she was � 20 years later, and there are over a million women in a suit against WalMart for discrimination.

Consistency, consistency.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Yes, McInsane promised more war and doubting his sanity.

Last night in the Reagan zombie debate, he was asked a question about the economy. He answered the surge is working and he got rid of Rumsfeld, WTF?

Then willard was asked about leading the military. He answered it is not like checkers but 3 D chess. WTF?

Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, etc,,,, no new ideas and no solutions. It was like watching an episode of the Twilight Zone.

Clinton will crush them both like she will to seal the deal tonight in the last debate before super Tuesday.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Morning Paul!

Would it be sticky to make observastions and be an advocate for peace?

By Paul

January 31, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

getalife

Surgeon General nominee states if he fills the post there will still be deaths from HIV AIDS and people will die of lung cancer.

Is the nominee promising to make that happen?

John Edwards (before he dropped out) said he was going to address poverty in America.

He couldn’t say there would be no poverty.

Was he promising poverty?

‘Nuther mountain out of a molehill.

As far as real promises, Hillary did say she could control Bill.

“Can you control him?” asked (ABC News) McFadden.

�Oh of course,� Clinton replied.

Good thing Huckabee didn’t make such a reference he could “control” his wife. Some people here would really go nuts.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla,

McCain doesn’t seem to be a candidate who sticks to the script; hence, he sends his opponents to soundbite heaven. His comment was:

“Sen. John McCain told a crowd of supporters on Sunday, �It�s a tough war we�re in. It�s not going to be over right away. There�s going to be other wars.� Offering more of his increasingly bleak �straight talk,� he repeated the claim: �I�m sorry to tell you, there�s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.�

Maybe there can be too much honesty? You make an excellent point - if he just would have followed it with “but my administration will engage Iran in talks, we will continue to work with…”

It would have been truncated by many outlets, but at least it wouldn’t have been so bleak.

BTW - my experience - military types are the last to advocate military force. It’s the civilians who always seem to want to forge ahead.

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

This is what the dimwits will do if they get in charge:

{{{{In a long, and interesting speech, he characterized what the U.S. and other industrialized nations need to do to combat global warming this way: “We just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions ‘cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren.”}}}}

They would rather be loved by the mouth breathing perverts in Hollywood than have a strong, successful America.

Your well being, both financially and through national security is an afterthought to their beloved junk science.

Why do you think that most of their voters are the uneducated?

Duh.

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al-Gitmo: Time for another of your candidate flip flops:

{{{{That position leaves Mr. Obama as the lone presidential candidate among the four leading challengers in either party who supports eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana. Mr. Obama’s chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton, opposes decriminalization, Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer said.}}}}

F hillary, right?

Bwa.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

But tonight’s debate will bring us sanity, new ideas and solutions.

For the first time in American history, a African American and a woman are debating for the Dem nomination .

One of them will make history in getting the nomination and probably the Presidency.

Like Germany and other countries, I think we will have our first woman President, President Hillary Clinton.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. The guy who invented them was being redundant. I understand death as a horse. I understand disease as a horse. War, sure, but famine? I mean, I can think of alot worse things as wingman for the other three. Like Oprah. Part time obesity is worse than famine. Taxes are certainly worse than famine. Faulty plumbing. Horses-asses on blogs who try to write over their disability on account they were depraved…R worse than famine.

The opposite bizzarro version of the 4 horsemen: The 4 horsemen of the Acapulco. They would be named, Beerhat, Wet-t-shirt, Naked guy, and Then we hit the floor…..and sonIgot lodlelodlelodle

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

RB in Gwinnett,

I don’t hate people who say they are christian any more than I hate Jews or Muslims or Hindus or Shintoists or Taoists.

I believe they are all wasting their time hoping for some “uber-being” to come to earth and solve all their problems.

Religion is superstition, and rather barbaric superstition at that! Lots of blood on its hands, you know.

I prefer to live my life now, rely on the person looking back at me in the mirror every morning, and not subscribe to the “patriarchal divine slot machine” of religion.

So, in sum RB, there ain’t gonna be no judgement day just as there is no Santa and no Tooth Fairie (sorry to burst your bubble on Santa).

No god? Know peace!!

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 31, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Bosch: The Tampa Tribune said the mermaids will be in the same employee category as state politicians. Apparently snakes, weasels, vermin, rodents and mermaids are in the same class. The stories I read have never said though what happens to the adjacent water park. I don’t know if it is in the same deal. At least now the state can prohibit boaters from coming up the river and injuring the manatees.

Gee Duh, for someone who hovers over their keyboard EVERY morning so they can be the first one to blog on an internet website, you certainly seem to be the expert on “getting a life”. I bow to the master.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Hey RW, good news just keep a-comin’ for “President Romney”, eh? Rudy drops out and endorses McCain. Now Ahnold is about to make the same announcement. So what… that means Johny Mac is going to get New York and California? But hey, those aren’t important states, right? I mean, come on! Now New Hampshire…

By @@

January 31, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

(((Then willard was asked about leading the military. He answered it is not like checkers but 3 D chess. WTF?)))

Actually that was a very good answer.

Depth perception of offensive and defensive moves—strategies.

The debates never allow enough time for specifics.

Why do you call Mitt “Willard”?

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Well said, Truthman. Amen (pardon the expression :) )

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Here’s something for those of you with too much time on your hands to try out.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Hmmm. So which glass was named “Hillary” and which glass was named “Bill?”

By getalife

January 31, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

@@,

The Reagan zombie debate showed weakness in both candidates.

Clinton should run ads on McInsane’s lunatic answer on the economy or willard’s military answer.

They both blew those questions to expose their weaknesses.

They have no solutions just more w policies.

I see Jim is pimping ml’s toon today and fox news called and wants their cartoonist back.

Jim is now a liberal and ml a wingnut?

My head hurts from drinking everytime they spewed Reagan last night.

By RE

January 31, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

You know, the media is going back and forth about Romney and McCain, but Huck is going to sweep all of the south.

But then, the souther states will vote for any pile of turd the GOP nominates.

By w00t

January 31, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

RB, you truly are an idiot. You’re obviously too stupid to see the implied “video game” reference that I made that so many “conservatives” seem to think how the “real-world” works.

The point is, if there is a draft, where EVERY American has to make a sacrifice for this war, then it would really make people think twice if war is really worth it. Because once you started to see middle and upper class white folks drafted in to Vietnam, that�s when the war started to end there.

So long as people can sit in their comfortable arm chair and look at the chaos on the teevee, what does it matter to him that some kid got his arms blown off? What does it matter to him that a guy just lost his son?

It doesn’t matter, and that�s why idiots like you will always push for more war, because you have nothing to lose, and nothing to stand for.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

@@,

willard is his first name mittens is his nickname.

McInsane’s middle name is Sydney and he married Cindy who is filty rich.

He dumped his first wife that raised his family while he was being being tortured.

By @@

January 31, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

You didn’t answer my question. Here’s my response to your response to my unanswered question.

The dem debates show all candidates to be dim.

McCain should run ads on the fact that Hillary has enjoyed more pork than anyone in congress and it shows on her a$$.

Hillary and Obama are blowing their noses on each other.

The AJC is a pimp along with all corporate media—it depends on which political prostitute is in their stable.

Your nuts have no teeth.

Drink from the top after 10 minutes of RW’s link at 1:28 and your head won’t hurt but you will have to pee.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

By w00t 11:48 AM |

I was hoping you would go there simpleton. On 2 fronts.

First, NOBODY on the right wants more war. Get that through your thick skull. NOBODY!! Not McCain, not Bush, not me, not duh, NOBODY. What about that is so hard for you sound bite liberals to get? However, we will not roll over and let 3rd rate dictators push us around and we not surrender to a bunch of cave dwellers. If you haven’t yet figured out you prevent more wars by having a strong defense than by sticking your head in the sand and apologizing for having a standard of living, there is no hope for you. See Europe, late 30’s, early 40’s.

Second, the “if you had to participate” garbage. The same is true of all these social programs you socialist keep dreaming up. Every last damn one of them targets taking money from “rich white business owners” and gives it to you and every other do nothing who sits around whining about not having anything and blaming somebody else. I suspect if you and your ilk had to actually pay for the programs you keep stealing money from others to pay for, you wouldn’t be for them any more. If you want poor kids to have health insurance, then march your happy little self down to the shelter, pick you out a family, AND WRITE THE CHECK. Do you care enough to put up your money? I didn’t think so.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Man is the only creature who has no reason for being in nature. He evolved, but independent of the natural evolutionary cycle. He doesn’t trim or feed any herd to keep nature in balance like all other creatures do. The planet doesn’t depend on a Trump Tower. The groundhog doesn’t have 2 predict the weather. Robins dont have to announce spring.

there is absolutely no reason for man to be here at all.

Hannity + Rush = HUSH!

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Favorite line of the week thanks to John from Tampa:

“Apparently snakes, weasels, vermin, rodents and mermaids are in the same class”

Mermaids are WAY more classier - especially THOSE mermaids!

But will the mermaids be able to choose their own vet? :-)

Paul,

In regards to 10:46 when you said,

“Good thing Huckabee didn�t make such a reference he could �control� his wife. Some people here would really go nuts.”

Going back to my point from Huckabee yesterday. I was trying to hint around that the whole Huckabee and women’s rights thing was another media hysterical moment. The reason I addressed it to @@ was because she was carrying on about the Clintons and all Democrats being rascists, which is as absurd as to suggest that Mike Huckabee forces his wife to have sex whenever he wants to.

Although, I think it is a very serious lack in judgement to sign your name in such a high proile way - albeit 10 years ago - to an ad as backwards as that one was in USA today.

His response to the women issue was reasonable, even though I totally disagree with him in his theological believes. I’d be a hypocrit to say I believe everything in my churches doctrine.

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Of course, RB from Gwinnett doesn’t do any actual research, otherwise he’d know the single largest welfare recipients in America are…Drum Roll, Please…

White, single women. Hardly a group that “sits around whining.”

Plus, RB once again states the bottome line for all Repugs, which is “Money is everything!!”

Gosh, not very christian, RB!! Your assumed god wouldn’t like that!!

Money, Money, Money!! That is the Repug mantra!

Or, as my mom puts it “Thank god I got mine!!”

christians my arse!!

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Political Foreskin,

I watched a show on Discovery Science about what the earth would be like if man suddenly disappeared.

Within 150 years the oceans would replenish the fish supplies and would cleanse themselves of man’s pollution, skies would be free of pollution, forests would regrow and earth, for the first time since the Industrial Revolution, would be in harmony. After 10,000 years, the only trace of man still existing would be the Great Pyramids of Egypt.

Sounds like a great place to me!!!

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Oops, Check that!!

White, single mothers are the greatest recipient of welfare (after corporations, of course).

By Paul

January 31, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Hello Bosch

I wasn’t thinking of you when I referenced Huckabee. I was struck by Hillary’s “control” comment and how people will say “uh huh, good, good…” - yet doing the favorite candidate reversal exercise, reversing genders, and citing an evangelical to boot, the response from many would be outrage. What you see depends on where you’re sitting.

w00t

Vietnam was winding way down when draft was done and lottery came in. Johnson Administration made a decision to minimize Guard/Reserve involvement to, just as you say, keep the discontent from going even further. There was already quite enough.

But even a draft wouldn’t achieve the objectives you desire. That comes from wise statesmen on our side and on the other side. But the ideologies, hatreds, resource interests and such are too hardened and go too far back. Best avenue I see it to reduce our strategic dependence in volatile regions. If that means more refineries and drilling here, so be it. Same with nuclear. Same with tougher gas standards, vehicle design and vehicle propulsion. Everybody needs to compromise. But most don’t want to.

I pointed out once, tongue in cheek, that even a draft wouldn’t work unless all the recruits went into Army groundpounders or USMC. Navy’s not at risk. Air Force - air conditioned quarters and Barcoloungers - same for them. Heck, they send their officers to the front while the enlisted wave when they take off. Even in the Army and USMC we can’t have all in the front lines, so there will still be disparity.

It’s an understandable sentiment, though.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

I kinda like the attitude of some couples I’ve seen on tv - won’t have kids because they don’t want to harm the environment.

‘Course, pretty soon such types would fade away.

Darwin strikes again!

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

If we humans could, somehow, grandfather in a binding resolution that we will reduce the earth’s population to 3 billion by 2080, that would be a marvelous thing for humankind.

The way to do that is have a negative birth rate.

We have to face the fact that this planet cannot sustain 9 billion or more people.

I know the less educated religionists will go nuts at the suggestion, but it’s the right thing to do.

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Truthman January 31, 2008 12:32 PM I watched a show on Discovery Science about what the earth would be like if man suddenly disappeared. Within 150 years the oceans would replenish the fish supplies and would cleanse themselves of man�s pollution, skies would be free of pollution, forests would regrow and earth, for the first time since the Industrial Revolution, would be in harmony. After 10,000 years, the only trace of man still existing would be the Great Pyramids of Egypt. Sounds like a great place to me!!!}}}}

A “great” place for who??

IdiotMan: Maybe you haven’t thought this far out yet but war mongering Repug polluters are not the only human beings on the planet.

You may want to sit down for this one but you are a human being too.

And is it so pleasant to think that you and Hitler think the same, wouldn’t the world be so much better if we just got rid of Those People.

Sick mofo, sick.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

Yes, that is the right thing to do, but ethically? Holy Moly. I just wrote holy moly, what’s wrong with me today?

Liked your religion post, by the way. I’m on an interfaith committee in my community - we were talking about having an athiest speaker - that should blow the socks off some.

By w00t

January 31, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

RB, they do want more war, just like McCain said: “I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.”

Where do you get the money for �other wars�? You don’t do it by dropping taxes, that�s for sure. To me, I feel like I am being stolen from when they ask for yet ANOTHER $70 Billion. 42% of your federal taxes from your paycheck goes towards defense. We spend more money on Defense than all of NATO combined. It’s ridiculous, and it shouldn’t be that way. Social programs here are nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to the monster that is Iraq and our defense budget. If conservatives want to talk about Eisenhower like they knew him they need to get a clue and understand that he was against over spending on Defense and thought that the money was better spent in our OWN country for the BETTERMENT of the AMERICAN people. Not by wasting billions if not trillions of dollars on foreign lands where we have no business being.

If republicans have the nerve to talk about how “congress” is overspending, they need to go right to the source of the money pit that is the Military-Industrial Complex.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

They’ve built a new super collider that should prove once and for all there’s no god. They are looking for the tiniest building block of matter. It’s so small that like a million of ‘em would fit in your brain, anyway, if they find this particulate of matter, then by association they can dismiss any notion of a diety. This small particle is called the cootie.

I dont know about you, but I sure hope they find it.

Hannity + Rush = HUSH!

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Oh Luck-o-less,

What is your obsession with Hitler? You quote him like y’all are best buddies.

But, I digress!

Luck-o-dunce, if I could be guaranteed that if I went, you’d go, too, I’d make that deal!

Of course, the difference between you and I is I would be missed!!

TM

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Now, let me say, I work with people who call themselves christians who are decent, moral folks for whom I have a lot of admiration.

I have much respect for the Chaplains who work here.

I just don’t do religion…I’ve “evolved” past it (pun intended).

By wow

January 31, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

truthman would make a good suicide bomber, no?

By RE

January 31, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

ok the important endorsements:

McCain- Stallone

Huckabee- Chuck Norris

Obama- Hulk Hogan

Clinton- America Ferrara (Ugly Betty)

Romney- Every Mormon

Choose wisely, I think if it came down to it chuck norris might be able to take out hogan, but the hulkster is still pretty built. Whoever gets the nod from chuck liddel I think takes the election.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 12:27 PM

Hey Dimwit, where did I say anything about the race or sex of anyone? Are you that inept at reading comprehension?

And I just love the tired socialist talking point about how unChristlike it is to object to any additional social programs as if we’re all supposed to just mail our paychecks to the DNC every month to make Jesus happy. Yawn… Here’s news flash for you dimwit. When someone gives their money freely to someone in need, that’s called charity. Jesus loves that. When someone takes money by force from someone for the purpose of giving it to someone else, that’s called stealing. Do you recall anything anything in the Bible about stealing? Have you ever even opened a Bible and read a verse? Talk about a lack of research. This dimwit’s actually trying to tell us what the Bible says. What a joke that is!!

By getalife

January 31, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Well, who did Vince endorse?

I see we finally aborted one of the real enemy in Pakistan.

By Georgia 74

January 31, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

For Romney did you mean every Mormon or every moran?

By w00t

January 31, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

RB the Christian, yet he continues to judge people. How fitting.

Hypocrite.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch 1:06

Who’s Moly?

By getalife

January 31, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

The corporate media stopped covering Iraq so this is from the Asia Times:

“US soldiers are getting killed on a daily basis and so are Iraqi army and police officers. Infrastructure is destroyed. In a country that used to feed much of the Arab world, starvation is now the norm. It is ironic that Iraq was not half as bad during the 12 years of sanctions. Our liberation has pushed us into a state of unprecedented corruption.”

The surge is working!

By Paul

January 31, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

w00t

Actually, as a percentage of outlays Defense is about a fifth. Human resources is over 60 percent. Let’s not even get into the sleight of hand with Social Security and Medicare.

But as far as what we spend compared to the rest of the world, it’s been like that for decades. You’re right about Eisenhower, he coined the “military-industrial complex” term.

Then again, one of my favorite moments before the last election was when the Bush Administration announced they were cutting our forces in Germany by half and slashing the number stationed in South Korea.

Care to guess who attacked Bush for his “highly irresponsible and dangerous” actions?

Sen Kerry

RE 1:22

Read an article about Romney’s family and friends. Not all were voting for him. Even one of the… coulda been grandmother. Said she loved him but she had different political views than he did.

Ever notice how Mormonism is never an issue with Sen Reid’s supporters?

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

I guess RB never heard ore read “render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s; render unto god that which is god’s.”

Jeez, dude, don’t you READ your bible? I, an avowed a-theist, seem to know more about your “good book” than you.

Don’t worry, RB, you’ll get your 30 pieces of silver…your “filthy lucre!”

Try living the Beatitudes, bro, then you can cast stones.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

RE

Plus, Sen Reid’s a convert. Who converted his wife.

How we can trust a guy who believes things like that to be Senate Majority Leader is beyond me. He’d believe anything…

//sarc//

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Well, folks, it’s five o’clock somewhere!

See youse guys tomorrow!!

By N-GA

January 31, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait until Atlanta’a city government is Republican. Then we can:

Cut off all Alabama and Florida residents from water that originates in Georgia.

Train the Atlanta Police in military tactics and then pre-emptively attack Tehran because they might have WMD’s.

Eliminate all income taxes.

Close all public schools.

Deport everyone not born in Georgia, or who are gay, liberal, poor, or non-Christian.

Make NASCAR the national sport, then convert I-285 into a superspeedway (has that already happened?).

Solve the immigration problem by legalizing indentured servitude.

Allow people to avoid federal taxes by declaring themselves living and breathing mobile repositories of Jesus.

Require all residents to own concealable firearms, make a vow of chastity, reject alcoholic beverages except during football season, memorize all 11 verses of “Dixie”, and take a day off from work on Lester Maddox’s birthday.

to be continued……

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Paul,

How do you spell moly? As in holy moly?

Truthman,

Do your Christian friends ever try to “save” you? I have a really good friend who is athiest and my mom is always after me to “save” him. I always tell her that he’s not in any immediate danger that I can tell.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

By w00t 1:37 PM

Gee, woot, we’ve never heard that one before. This is the “you can never tell anyone what they’re doing is wrong because you’re judging them and Jesus wouldn’t like that” socialst talking point. Yawn….

Once again, your ignorance of the Bible shines through. How about this verse from the book of Luke.

“If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, ‘I repent,’ forgive him.”

So tell me Bible scholar, how do you rebuke someone without judging them? the Bible doesn’t say not to point out sin, it says not to be arrogant about it as if you never sin yourself for you will also be judged. I’m ok with that. Are you?

Please either learn the Bible or stop quoting it. You’re embarrasing yourself.

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

There have been several days where Luchoduh hasn’t posted in the morning and people from all sides the debate here start asking where he is. There have been several days when Truth?man hasn’t posted in the morning and not a soul has asked about him.

I guess that answers the question of who would be missed.

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Yes, I have received bibles and books of psalms from well-meaning people.

However, I like what a more eloquent athiest than I said…”Show me the reasons you reject all other gods, and I will show why I reject yours.”

BTW, I have no problem with a president being a believer. I just want them to check their religion at the White House front door and try to remember we are a secular government!

By Paul

January 31, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Bosch

I spell it “mole” - with the little slanted thing over the ‘e’ so it’s pronounced “mo-lay”

Then when I eat the sauce I say “Holy Moly, good mole”

Sorry you asked?

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

New favorite line on the blog today, courtesy of N-GA:

“living and breathing mobile repositories of Jesus”

By Truthman

January 31, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Do the same, RB, do the same!

I remember when the bible was used to justify slavery. And the Old Testament says to kill your children if they are disobedient.

Should we take all of that literally.

RB, read the Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes. If you truly can live by them, you are, most assuredly, a liberal and a progressive human…Just as your Jesus was!

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Fact check the GOP debate

By getalife

January 31, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

RW,

If you never leave, you are never missed.

By @@

January 31, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

(((The reason I addressed it to @@ was because she was carrying on about the Clintons and all Democrats being rascists)))

Do we want to revisit the posts you’ve made regarding evangelicals. When we call you on it, then and only then, do youo make a distinction that you didn’t mean “all”.

My post was to Getalife, who I often have fun with. I said that I did not say that Hillary was a racist but that I found the Democratic ——>Party’s<—— practices of designating, to be subversively racist.

You do like to dish it out but then get defensive when it comes back at you.

BTW, “carrying on” is not something I do Bosch, but since you’re inclined to exaggerate it’s understandable that you may perceive it that way.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Truthman

Couldn’t one say that if one read those, understood them and lived them, that one was a conservative? Staying to the original intent, “conserving” the essence of truth, not “progressing” to that not intended, not being “liberal” in interpretation, the results of which we see around us today?

Don’t get excited. Just havin’ a bit of fun -

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

The Burdens of Empire

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

I agree. Some of the psalms are pretty hilarious though.

Paul,

Like guacamole - isn’t mole the Spanish word for sauce? Or yummy dip?

Still, I like moly better when pairing it with holy. I’m just symmetrical about some things.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 1:57 PM

I do believe the “render unto Caesar…” scripture says I should pay my taxes. I pay my taxes. Can you now explain to me how that scripture says I should glady keep giving and giving without ever questioning the ever increasing amount being given to a government obviously out of control from a spending standpoint. You keep trying to toss up scriptures you know nothing about dimwit, and I’ll keep educating you on the meaning and context of them. What Bible lesson would you like next?

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

@@,

“You do like to dish it out but then get defensive when it comes back at you.”

My, my, like your entire 2:56 post?

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Truthman, you might find this interesting

By IN THE NEWS

January 31, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

There’s been plenty of talk during primary season about gender and race; it’s age that has become taboo.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

How about the lesson, RB, that anyone can interpret scriptures any way they like to suit their own purposes? Is that a good lesson? Or are you gonna “prove” to us that yours is the one inerrant way to interpret the Bible?

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Norman Mailer always said he was a “conservative” because he believed in conserving the value and laws of the Constitution unlike so many of those who claim they are conservative and try to b******* it.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Bosch

The sauce that bears the name actually uses chocolate as an ingredient. Provides richness, body. Doesn’t taste chocolatey.

Like symmetry? So a while after you eat it there’s another “Holy…” expression you like, is that what you’re sayin’?

In The News

So any idea why past Congresses and Administrations have maintained our “Empire” in other areas of the world (altho NATO and some southeast Asia forces were reduced)? Doesn’t is seem interesting he doesn’t want a new “empire” there (I’m in agreement, by the way) but there’s not much discussion of reductions in other areas? Used to be an obligatory part of a Democratic candidate’s speech. No real difference between Dems and Reps in that regard, anymore.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Paul,

:-) Yen and yang. Yen and yang.

By @@

January 31, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

(((My, my, like your entire 2:56 post?)))

Timing is everything Bosch.

Is it safe to assume that you would prefer not to revisit your past posts on evangelicals?

No, I didn’t think so.

Let sleeping dogs lie.

By w00t

January 31, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I mean, look how the westboro Baptist church “interprets” the bible.

Religion just needs to STFU. It’s nothing more than a giant pyramid scheme anyway. OHNOES, GOD DOESNT LIKE YOU, BUT HE LOVES YOU! AND IF YOU PAY ME MONNIES (TAX FREE OF COURSE, AND I’LL TELL YOU WHO TO VOTE FOR) YOU’LL GET A �GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN PASS�! YEA! oh, yeah, and dinosaur bones were put there by teh devil, because of his devil ways.

In its basic form, that�s what it comes down to, and those are the people that vote. Scary, isn’t it.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

RB,

It is VERY dangerous to interpret the Bible for people.

By @@

January 31, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

(((If we humans could, somehow, grandfather in a binding resolution that we will reduce the earth�s population to 3 billion by 2080)))

Sure hope the government (see China) wouldn’t hold us to that binding resolution. Accidentally going over the limit could prove to be fatal for a little one.

Better make sure that those allowed to exist are self-sustaining cause government sources would be reduced as a result.

Unbelievable! Somebody on this board actually typed that.

I’ve read many articles where environmentalists are promoting birth limits. Big ole can of worms that one would become.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

@@,

Oh, now you’re talking all big and bad. Go listen to some Patsy Cline, it will make you feel better, she has a very nice, soothing voice.

I’ll save you the trouble though:

I am very prejudiced towards evangelicals, through personal experience, I’ve seen some do very nasty things. My first inclination is to not trust them - just like you don’t trust Democrats or liberals.

Hypocritical? Yes. Those who claim to never be hypocritical are just big fat liars.

OK, there, happy?

By RiBbit

January 31, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

{{{By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this}}}

{{{I do believe the �render unto Caesar�� scripture says I should pay my taxes. I pay my taxes. Can you now explain to me how that scripture says I should glady keep giving and giving without ever questioning the ever increasing amount being given to a government obviously out of control from a spending standpoint.}}}

Because our infrastructure is completely outdated.

Because our idiot-in-chief ruined our nation’s financial integrity worse than an internet ID thief could.

Because 40 million of your fellow countrymen are uninsured.

Because your punkass should be happy and grateful that you live and make money in the greatest country in the world.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 3:10 PM |

{{{How about the lesson, RB, that anyone can interpret scriptures any way they like to suit their own purposes? Is that a good lesson? Or are you gonna �prove� to us that yours is the one inerrant way to interpret the Bible?}}}

I’m no Bible scholar rushncap, but I can assure you those who are can see a liberal trying to take verses out of contect and use them to suppress Christains opinions and influence on society much better than I can. Why don’t you see if you can find any reasonably respected Bible scholar who thinks “give unto Caesar” means we should give whatever the socialist ask for without questioning it.

By w00t 3:27 PM

{{{Religion just needs to STFU. It�s nothing more than a giant pyramid scheme anyway}}} My, my… More of that tolerance the libs spout on and on about. Tolerance for everybody but decent, hard working, successful, Christians, eh? Is this the mentality you people call “progressive”??? I think most people would more likely call it “sick”.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Big ole can of worms indeed, @@. As opposed to unchecked, exponential growth of a large omnivore on a planet with limited resources. That’s not a can of worms, is it?

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

RB — I can find you a “Biblical scholar” who thinks just about anything. There is a “Biblical scholar” in Kansas who thinks we should kill gay people and returning soldiers. I guarantee you that there are Biblical scholars in Europe who have no problem with the taxation in that society. Born-again nutjobs are not the only “Biblical scholars” around, RB. Sorry to break it to ya.

By @@

January 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

What in the heck are you talking about?

(((talking all big and bad)))???????

It’s said that the abused grow up to be abusers. The cycle has to be broken. Claiming hypocricy does noone any good. It’s hard to disregard the witness even when admonished by the judge to do so.

When I said “Let sleeping dogs lie.” I meant that I could let it go until your next little “innocent” slip up.

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

This guy should really stick to being a racist and a Chinese Kampaign Kontribution Kollector, you know, his strong suits:

{{{{In a long, and interesting speech, Billy Klux characterized what the U.S. and other industrialized nations need to do to combat global warming this way: “We just have to slow down our economy and cut back our greenhouse gas emissions ‘cause we have to save the planet for our grandchildren.”}}}}

{{{{“If you want that in America, if you want the millions of jobs that will come from it, if you would like to see a new energy trust fund to finance solar energy and wind energy and biomass and responsible bio-fuels and electric hybrid plug-in vehicles that will soon get 100 miles a gallon, if you want every facility in this country to be made maximally energy efficient that will create millions and millions and millions of jobs, vote for Misses Ku Klux Rodham. She’ll give it to you. She’s got the right energy plan.”}}}}

Let us, for one moment, imagine a new world where we would be able to plug our cars into our butts.

These liberals are freaking dangerous, if any of their goofy ideas were even viable then why wouldn’t the private sector already be turning a buck on them?

Why does the dumbas-s government have to force everything on us?

20 years, still no dependable electric car, electing a bigot to the presidency will somehow change this?

The government wants to “finance” solar energy, will this somehow make the clouds go away?

What is the definition of insanity, doing the same stupid thing over and over again?

The Psycho Klanner?

Drill, morons.

By w00t

January 31, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Hey, RB, I never said Christianity, I said �religion�, so go cry a river somewhere else ya idiot.

The world you want to live in would look like the dark ages.

By @@

January 31, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

Conservation is the key along with some of the suggestions that Paul put forth.

Destroying human potential serves nothing and noone.

Some of you guys are really out in left field today.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

@@,

Okay, deal, and same here.

Now, I think rushncap wants to talk to you about something.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 4:04 PM

I don’t suppose there would be any point in explaining the difference between a Respected Bible scholar and one who reads the Bible, would there? I mean, you probably think Jim Jones and David Koresh were Bible scholars, don’t you.

You don’t know many Europeans who actually work and pay taxes, do you? As long as you keep asking the dregs of any society who pay no taxes if they care about higher taxes, the answer will never change. Same here in the US. Interesting how you speak for Bible scholars in Europe… Know any who aren’t working at the map, globe, and “smoking accessories” store?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 4:04 PM

I don’t suppose there would be any point in explaining the difference between a Respected Bible scholar and one who reads the Bible, would there? I mean, you probably think Jim Jones and David Koresh were Bible scholars, don’t you.

You don’t know many Europeans who actually work and pay taxes, do you? As long as you keep asking the dregs of any society who pay no taxes if they care about higher taxes, the answer will never change. Same here in the US. Interesting how you speak for Bible scholars in Europe… Know any who aren’t working at the map, globe, and “smoking accessories” store?

By God

January 31, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

RB

You disgust me.

Repent.

By w00t

January 31, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

RB, you’re a bad Christian, and live by none of its teachings. I guess you’re more of a weekend warrior than anything else. An a*******hole during the week, and claimed to be “saved” on the weekend.

Look at me, I�m RB. I like to spit on people that are down in the dirt, and laugh at those that are not as fortunate as I. Because, it�s their fault, has always been their fault, and always will be their fault. Kid�s with no health insurance, no problem. Let God sort them out, even though I claim to be pro-life.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Nice duck, @@. I’m not talking about “conservation” or “potential”. I’m talking about simple numbers — exponential growth of large omnivores on a planet not suited for such numbers of them. “Potential” and “conservation” mean nothing when a population runs out of resources and starts dying out wholesale for lack thereof. This is what it looks like, and in 50 years the Asian tsunami that killed 300,000+ in a few hours will look like a quaint hiccup, much like the casualty totals from great wars of the Roman empire look insignificant compared to a single day at Stalingrad. Hannibal’s famous Battle at Cannae claimed 70,000 Roman lives (and incurred losses of 6,000 for him). Overall there were 136,000 casualties. Stalingrad claimed 1.5 million casualties. Any questions?

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

RB,

Funny, most Biblical scholars I know (I only KNOW one, big giant liberal too) or have heard in lectures, or had a short conversation with have a much more difficult time with fundamentalists (who are usually of the conservative persuasion) taking the scripture out of context or cherry picking, or better yet, trying to interpret the meaning for others.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

I don’t suppose, RB, that there is any point in explaining to you that by a “Respected Bible scholar” you simply mean “dude who agrees with me completely”, is there? Didn’t think so…

P.S. I guarantee you that I know far more Europeans than you.

By God

January 31, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

RB

I AM NOT KIDDING.

REPENT.

START BY TAKING COPIES OF WHAT YOU POST HERE TO YOU PASTOR.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

By w00t 4:27 PM

{{{RB, you�re a bad Christian}}}

Gee, coming from a Godless liberal, that really hurts….

woot, everybody who holds Christian beliefs and won’t suppress them to your satisfaction is a bad Christian in your eyes. I know you’d be happy if we all just stayed in our churches and never said boo about God out in the world, but we aren’t going to do that. I can accept that I’m a sinner and need to repent. Can you?

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Your 2:52 doesn’t make any sense, perhaps you’re still hung over. Tell you what, you and I will drink whenever we hear the empty slogan “”“change”“” tonight and you’ll feel better in no time. Tomorrow won’t be pretty though.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Yeah, w00t, can you accept that RB is a sinner and needs to repent? Well…?

By w00t

January 31, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

RB, first off, there you go again judging people, second you don’t know me or my life, so you don’t get to put words in my mouth.

I have a problem with weekend warriors like you that have to preach to others to feel comfortable with their crappy lives.

Amen.

By Bosch

January 31, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

@@,

Just thought of something in regards to your earlier post about people who abuse and the cycle being broken and all that jive just because I said I was hypocritical……..

So, are you trying to say that you aren’t prejudiced against liberals and Democrats? Shouldn’t you break that cycle or are you too just a hypocrit?

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Ahh, yes, I remember this sermon well, our Pastor told us that all good Christians kept real quite about their faith and gave all of their money to which ever pervert the liberals wanted them to.

RB: Arguing with the Godless heathens is like reading about Conservatism in the Pinko Media.

If you need an example of the futility of it all, make note of how they chose to run from the throat cutting women and children murdering Islamic fanatics but will bow up on the very first Christian they come across.

What gutless wonders they really are.

By moonbat betty

January 31, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

hahahaha!!

funny toon lucko.

looks just like the crazy libs at a campaign rally!

thanks for the laugh lucko!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) 4:46 PM

Do you suppose anyone will ever ask Obama what “Change” means as it relates to real issues and legislation? It sure makes a nice sound bite, and it’s hard to argue with the need for it, especially when he never has to define what it means.

Maybe we should look at all the worthy legislation he’s sponsored as a Senator to see what changes he wants to see enacted. Oh, wait, THERE HASN’T BEEN ANY.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) 4:46 PM

Do you suppose anyone will ever ask Obama what “Change” means as it relates to real issues and legislation? It sure makes a nice sound bite, and it’s hard to argue with the need for it, especially when he never has to define what it means.

Maybe we should look at all the worthy legislation he’s sponsored as a Senator to see what changes he wants to see enacted. Oh, wait, THERE HASN’T BEEN ANY.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

rushncap

I have to go get some Picadillo started for company, but real quick:

Paul Ehrlich got this going in the 60s with “The Population Bomb.” Bit of hysteria. Most “predictions” way off mark. Some scandalous actions in UN in that time frame - using his data rather than data developed by UN teams. Anyhow, he was wrong on nearly everything. (UN) 1900-2000 pop grew from 1.6b to 6.1b - fourfold - but world GDP grew from 20 to 40 times. Nearly 20 years ago, UNFAO report stated that with then-present technologies we could feed 35 billion.

It’s a recycled argument. Many of the arguments and much of the data are still the same. Some profs who were students in the 60s never updated their outlook. Or their books. Or their data. Tenure is a wonderful thing.

Make a difference - work on the distribution system. Work to make third-world and some “civilized” world officials less corrupt. Encourage efforts to steer some 21st-century peoples away from tribalism and towards a view of shared humanity.

That’s one of the things I like about religion. It encourages faith in the goodness of creation and the recognition of ultimate reality. Genesis: creation. Creation’s complete. Revelation: its place is symbolic. God is revealed thru creation. Answers are there, just need to be discovered (uncover, remove the cover from; see what is) or revealed.

Gotta get the picadillo started -

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

{{{{By w00t January 31, 2008 4:56 PM I have a problem with weekend warriors like you that have to preach to others to feel comfortable with their crappy lives.}}}}

Everybody has their own God w00sie, you weirdos worship “mother Earth” and preach to the rest of us about our “carbon footprint,” remember?

And our “gas guzzling.”

And our tax burden.

And the amount of water we steal from the mollusks.

And blah, blah, blah, it seems like it never freaking stops coming from your yapping maw, “you’re too fat,” “you can call her that,” blah, blah blah.

And to think, you b*** because we tell you to pull your pants up and act like a responsible adult.

What a silly lib you are.

By @@

January 31, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

I’m impressed rushncap./sarc/

(((Nice duck, @@. I�m not talking about �conservation� or �potential�. I�m talking about simple numbers � exponential growth of large omnivores)))

Who’s gonna determine who the omnivores are? Let’s get to “the meat” of the matter because you’re treading on a slippery slope here.

Survival of the fittest and all that crap. Are we going to go with natural selection or selection of someone considered unnatural. You view the disabled pretty useless as I recall. Some people view homosexuals pretty useless. Are all those seen as threats to a cooperative society going to be exterminated. I’m thinking Jews here rushncap. We may not want you procreating at all because so many from the left think that Jews are at the root of all our problems. Are we going to get all countries to cooperate in this little endeavor of yours? If not, will they feel threatened by the mere suggestion? I mean resources are global aren’t they. Are we going to start hoarding our resources? Let the people in undeveloped worlds starve?

Are we going to say goodbye to human rights?

By N-GA

January 31, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

This is in response to the 4:04 post from the stuttering blogger:

Europeans pay thru the nose in taxes. There are many who post here who want a simple tax on all purchases to replace other taxes. Well, Europe started that years ago. It’s called the VAT (Value-added Tax). It averages 21 percent. You would know that if you’ve ever traveled there.

And they pay a host of other taxes as well. How do you think they pay for jobs that continue to pay you even if you’re fired? How do you think they pay for socialized healthcare? How do you think…???

Uh, nevermind. I answered my own question!!

By @@

January 31, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Make that “undeveloped countries” in what has turned out to be a very compact world.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Paul — this is not about spin. This is about simple math. We need to eat. OK, what do we eat? Well, fish for one. But our oceans are already getting overfished, due to increased demand. What else? Meat. Yes, but animals need grain and other foodstuffs, so we need to set aside large swaths of land for their food. Bread. Fine, but wheat areas are needed to plant oats to feed cattle. Don’t even get started on water. And I could keep going. Yes, technology is allowing human beings to squeeze ever more out of Earth. But that’s still finite. Meanwhile these advances are slow and minute, while population growth is exponential. Just because someone in the dreaded “60s” realized this problem does not mean it’s gone away by now. It’s a catch-22: the better technology gets, the more we get out of the Earth, the longer we live, the faster the population grows until… what? The inevitable collapse? If you think that laws of evolution (specifically what happens to an unchecked population in the wild) have stopped applying to our species I fear you, and the rest of us, are in for a rude awakening. If not in your lifetime, maybe in mine. And if not in mine, maybe in my (possible) children’s.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

By w00t 4:56 PM

Weekend warrior?? It’s Thursday and I’ve been Bible schooling you most of the afternoon. What’s “weekend” about that?

I guess you’d be happy if you can call me a weekend warrior and a bad Christian, even though you don’t know me either, but I can’t say anything back or I get the “your judging people and Jesus wouldn’t be happy” routine. Sorry, not going to happen.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Not hungover, drunk again.

Tonight O will have to put some substance behind his change rhetoric.

She will own him on the issues while he sputters and stutters like he does in all the debates.

Most voters will see them debate for the first time and the rookie will crack under the pressure.

Historic debate and a tough ticket to get.

Should be fun and will live blog it at kos because O is their candidate. It is fun supporting the Clintons over there.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

By w00t 4:56 PM

Weekend warrior?? It’s Thursday and I’ve been Bible schooling you most of the afternoon. What’s “weekend” about that?

I guess you’d be happy if you can call me a weekend warrior and a bad Christian, even though you don’t know me either, but I can’t say anything back or I get the “your judging people and Jesus wouldn’t be happy” routine. Sorry, not going to happen.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

I see I broke @@ again. Christ, lady, if you can’t take 2 posts worth of normal discussion without becoming totally unhinged maybe spending your days knitting really is the best alternative for you. Senility ain’t a pretty thing…

By @@

January 31, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

(((So, are you trying to say that you aren�t prejudiced against liberals and Democrats?)))

Are you reading what I’m reading here today? Liberals are talking about reducing the number of humans in the interest of resources.

It would be safe to say I’m highly suspicious of them…not prejudice against them. I’m afraid that their suggestion would serve prejudice, and very possibly fuel it.

This is scarey stuff they’re suggesting. You should pay attention.

By MomCat

January 31, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

By getalife January 31, 2008 11:45 AM My head hurts from drinking everytime they spewed Reagan last night.

Getalife, you know there’s no time for ‘specifics.’ Check this: By @@ January 31, 2008 11:21 A The debates never allow enough time for specifics.

The country was a real picnic under the Reagan adm. Sorry, no time for specifics! Time to prep dinner.

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

@@ asked you some very interesting questions about how you plan to implement your population control dictum. Perhaps at your intelligence level it’s easier for you just to lash out at her, but if you run into whoever fed you that idea maybe you could ask them for some detail so you don’t look so foolish when the machinations of your genocidal little plan is challenged.

If you decide to go get some help ask them how Darwinism fits this little fantasy of yours.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

No, RW, she didn’t “ask me interesting questions”. She totally went off her rocker, started talking about Nazis, her opinions of what my opinions of the handicapped should be etc etc etc. She does not need an answer from me, she needs a Valium and a hug, and I’m not able to provide either. Perhaps you can offer your services. I’m just sorry that I forgot what reason does to her and brought on this psychotic episode. I really didn’t mean to do it.

P.S. You can stop lying. Really, it’s ok. Jebus won’t be too angry with you.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

January 31, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Just thought I’d drop by and tell y’all an interesting story:

I was talking with this liberal idiot who mentioned that Gov. Huckabee, and a lot of other good God-fearing Americans who love their country, had said that Saddam had WMD’s but sent them to another country (Syria or Jordan I think in this instance) prior to the invasion. This liberal moron said that such a line of thinking to justify the Iraq invasion was “absurd.” So I inquired why?

He said that “if the fear of proliferation of WMD’s into the hands of terrorists was the justification for the war then we caused exactly what we didn’t want to have happen. That is, WMD’s floating around unaccounted for, and in unknown locations, with access by unknown persons. The world in essence, is less safe because it caused Saddam to put the WMD’s out there where they could be used anytime and anywhere and by anyone, assuming, of course, the premise is true.”

My response was: “why can’t you just support the troops?”

And then he says that “McCain justifies the war by saying that the world is better off without Saddam in power. My question is wouldn’t any Republican say the world would be better off without a Democrat in the White House? And if so, what does that portend for the next Democrat President? Are you all gonna shoot him/her?”

I looked at him straight in the eye and said: “Seriously, dude, why do you hate America?”

He shook his head and walked away…idiot.

Can any of you people explain what this guy was trying to say? It just sounded way too, I don’t know, ‘logical’ to compute in my right-wing brain.

Vote McCain in ‘08 because your great-great-great-grandkids should have the opportunity to fight in Iraq too!!!!

RWNJIFG

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

{{{{By @@ January 31, 2008 5:36 PM Are you reading what I�m reading here today? Liberals are talking about reducing the number of humans in the interest of resources.}}}}

@@: Notice also that the liberals are once again lauding the Europeans as “better than us.”

The majority of the mass murders and genocides in recent history have been started in Europe and they all begin with the same thought- “the world would be so much better without these humans around.”

The liberals are just itching to go on another murder spree.

God help them.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

That’s not rushncap, you idiot. There’s a ID troll impersonating several different folks on this board, moron.

If you cant spot it, then stfu, cause baby the rain must fall, (and baby rw must blow) wherever my heart leads me, baby I must go

nitwit. honestly

By @@

January 31, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

I was actually very calm when I posted my 5:18. When suggestions such as Truthman’s come up, it’s best to remain calm and think this through.

Looking at your 5:35 I’m guessing you would rather not have to do that.

For someone who advocates human rights you sure are eager to infringe on those of others.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Honey, go back to knitting. I’m done with you. You’re not able to hold a normal discussion, as I verify every several months. Sorry I tried to talk to you as to a reasonable human being. Just go back to your “fulfilling” life and leave the real world to adults.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

N-GA 5:22

And many of those European countries do not have near the breaks for mid-to-low income people. Average wage earners are gonna have their pay docked for health the same as upper income. Same for the VAT. They don’t subscribe to the “let someone else pay” vote-buying scheme.

Kinda neat when you can answer your own question. At least you’re sure the answer is correct!

getalife

I like your idea of how to watch the debate. I think I may join you.

You’re right about the substance. That’s a good thing about staggered primaries - these issues come up and have to be dealt with. I just hope they can develop it without the slanted accusations.

So you take on the kos folks? “Getalife ticks off the lalaleft!” LOL!

rushncap

I have faith in the adaptability of Mankind. Much of what you describe is predicated on many factors remaining the same. They won’t. Petroleum? Alternatives exist - some discovered, some yet to be. Resource allocation problems? Fixable - without the hatreds, that is. Resource-intensive practices for political purposes (okay, ethanol) - we started it, we can stop. Same with other items. Same with dietary changes. Rather like those survival exercises where you get a bunch of mundane items and get turned loose in a (classroom) setting. Time limit comes and you’ve bought the farm. Then the instructor reveals to you the uses to which you could have put the mundane items. More than survive, you could sustain and be on your way to flourishing. The answers were always there.

Much of change isn’t “good” or “bad” - it’s just different. It’s the effects are “good” or “bad.”

As Donald Sutherland said in “Kelly’s Heroes” - “have a little faith!”

By @@

January 31, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

RW & Andy:

This has been a real eye-opener for me. I never thought I would see the day that diminishing human potential would be viewed as a good thing.

RE briefly mentioned it once but quickly withdrew when I asked him if his newborn had been the one chosen, would he reconsider.

I read an article in the AJC today where a father beat his 17-month old daughter to death because she knocked over his X-BOX. Then I come in here and read this crap?

This is insane.

By Blogoholics Anonymous

January 31, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

@@, its time to take a time out like you did after the 06 election.

You need to get some help. Britney is, so should you, you sound even crazier than Luckydoo.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 31, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

-=-

Yes I have to agree — Over-Population will be a serious bane to this world - It’s already hapening in 3rd world countries, and even modernized countries. China can tell you about population explosions and their extreme controls. To have a child you must get government approval. That ring a bell?

Take Mexico for example with the strong Catholic presence and their - “No Birth Control” stance. Now they are finding it harder to sustain their excessive population in that country. Plenty of people in Mexico to work the fields and industry, just not enough resources to work on.

But Nature has some great population reducing qualitys to help balance things out,

— Disease (Bird Flu anyone? new strains of Ebola?)

— Famine…

Oh and believe it or not - too high a population in any species has a nice effect of creating high stress levels, and eventually those animals start fighting with each other — (War anyone?)…

But if it does all go to craaaaaap — and we find that we have no food left, - just remember….

“Human! The Other White Meat!”

Now where’s that BBq’ sauce recipe…?

Cheer’s

By @@

January 31, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

How many times have you declared that you’re done with me only to attack me days later when I haven’t even addressed you.

There’s something wrong with you rushncap. The environmentalists get guys like you all hysterical and you cease to use logic.

I must admit—I’m glad the numbers of people who think like you are low, and I hope they remain so.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 6:02 PM

Typical liberal. Get called on your ridiculous posts so you change the subject and call people names.

@@ asked you legitimate questions about this stupid “less humans” plan. A simple “that was a dumb idea that I obviously didn’t think through” is a perfectly acceptable answer.

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Paul — I’m sorry, but I really can’t bring myself to look at what will probably the biggest disaster in human history and have “faith” that we will avert it. Having blind faith is easy for a religious person, but I’m not one.

So the situation is simple. Right now human population is growing at an exponential rate. There are 2 options: either this trend will continue indefinitely or it won’t. The first option seems to be ruled out by several factors, such as, for one, the laws of physics. So at a certain point we will reach a situation when human beings can simply no longer grow any more. That may be 30 billion people, that may be 30 trillion people. The number itself does not matter, the concept does. So at a certain point human population will have to stop growing, if only because the total mass of humanity will now equal the total mass of the planet Earth. The question is: how is that going to happen? Now the religious element on this board doesn’t believe in math or science, so they simply refuse to accept this obvious fact. Fortunately many people out there don’t choose to live in blissful ignorance. So my question to you is: what is going to happen to make human population plateau (if not drop)? Think about it for a second, and you’ll see that there is no “good” answer.

By RW-(the original)

January 31, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

@@,

The one thing that never happens when these useless idiots come up these ideas that if man would just die out the planet would finally be the utopia they dream of is for one of them to offer to go first.

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

{{{{They don’t come right out and say that global prosperity is bad for us. Instead they say, as The New York Times recently said, “As development rolls across once-destitute countries at a breakneck pace, lifting billions out of poverty, demand for food, metals and fuel is red-hot, and suppliers are struggling to meet it. Prices are spiraling, and Americans find themselves in what amounts to a bidding war with overseas buyers for products as diverse as milk and gasoline.”}}}}

{{{{So media handwringers suggest we should worry about the poor becoming rich.}}}}

Actually, I think it is liberal selfishness but whatever.

{{{{The market would deliver the goods if government doesn’t impose crippling regulations and tax away everyone’s capital to fund its coercive utopian schemes. I like what Henry David Thoreau once said: “This government never furthered any enterprise but by the alacrity with which it got out of the way.”}}}}

I’ve got even better advice, well worn from a long time ago, it has always proven to be correct time and time again, see if you can spot the whiny pinko in the story:

{{{{One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, saith unto him, There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many? And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand. And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would. When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost. Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten. Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.}}}}

Have Faith, dimwits.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

Well! It looks like @@ won that exchange! We’re not worthy. Rushncap will never be the same. His career in ruins. He’ll be selling blankets at the airport.

BTW Everyone: @@ described her life yesterday. She mentioned how she’s average, and then wrote out a criteria from which she concluded that she was leading a just-average life, listing items which she would consider an elitist might consume if he/she were included in the league of extraordinary bipeds. Anyway, it was Possibly the funniest, and most endearing blog I’ve read in ten years, and it’s why I simply cant get mad at @@ anymore. Prime rib! I love it. What a good person you are @@.

Rushncap, if that’s you, then here’s a refresher course in Troll 101: Never, ever ever reply to a troll. There’s never an upside. You can win a thousand times and totally impress everyone with your devastating double entendres, and the troll wont go away. Sorry but that’s like the first thing you learn in Troll

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Just another death wish from RW. Typical. That’s all he’s got. RW, I’m sorry that your party is in such disarray, but dont despair. The pendulum always swings the other way. The democrats always blow it.

Hillary will only have one term. That’s a guarantee. All we can pray for is a lesbo scandal. I’ve got it bad for lesbo’s man, I dont know about you, but I think they rule.

Beerhat out.

By mm

January 31, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

Wow. Another day on this blog, and all I get from it is to see what MAJOR morons Duh and RB are.

Bonehead Central.

Keep it up. You 2 fools are the best campaign strategy the Dems could ever hope for.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

I had a dream about Britney last night. I was taking care of her while she sobered up. Helping her out in her time of need.

Then woke up and saw the motorcade taking her away to where Andy dwells.

Anyhoo, I must be psychic or something.

By Paul

January 31, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Not blind faith. Just faith in the adaptability and potential of mankind.

If things progress as they are, I agree - it will be difficult. But what is does not have to be.

I’m sure there will be some naturally-occurring that will have some ill effect. A greater danger is what we just may do to each other.

Just think about this. Go back 1000 years. Heck, 500. Look at how people lived. Then describe the metropolises we have. Would have been unimaginable.

But that’s just physical containment. More to the point: ever reviewed any papers from 50,30 years ago speculating what life would be like now? Most are way, way off the mark. Why? Because the technologies, or those upon which they were based, had not even been dreamed of at the time the speculation occurred.

But, if you want to adhere to a voluntary “cull the herd” view, you’ll enjoy this:

Link: Darwin Awards - those who have done the most to advance humanity by removing themselves from the gene pool

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

@@ — last post to you for the day. When I say “I’m done with you” what’s implied is “for now”. That doesn’t mean I won’t come back tomorrow or in a week or in a month to slap you around some more. It’s just that for today you have exhausted your amusement value and have crossed the line into “boring psycho b!tch”. As such, I’m not longer entertained by you, so I’m done.

Foreskin — you’re right, of course. I guess that’s just a fault with me — I’m an optimist. Every so often I think “well, maybe today she’ll be able to hold a normal discussion about a topic”, and without fail I’m reminded that, well, no, no she can’t. It’s my fault, and I accept it. I guess that’s like coming up to a tiger every few months and saying “well, maybe today he’ll become vegan”. The tiger’s not to blame when he chews your arm off, you’re to blame for being so dumb. So you’re right, oh so right…

By RB from Gwinnett

January 31, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 6:26 PM

I’m surprized you left off the obvious liberal solution to the problem. We’ll all just evolve into dirt eating beings or something. Isn’t that what you evolution people keep saying? Everything changes to adapt to it’s surroundings or something like that? Don’t have that much faith in evolution either, eh?

By Ace Mulholland

January 31, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Our boy Huckabee’s doing his job. Bob was smart to sell Terry on giving the green light to our people in New Hampshire to give Mike the money he needed to stay afloat until The Tuesday. We get from his people this afternoon that he’s going to be able to hold out until then. Which is great because Bill told us to do what it takes to help Mike enough so’s CTA wouldn’t have to spend down our West Coast chest. Nothing but good news from Huckabee and everyone here’s happy but me, since Bob gets another feather in his cap the durty bastid. You suck Bob!

Just kidding. Mike’s looking like the token Reep Hillary’s gonna name for the new cabinet. Fine by me and Bob. We never thought of him as the enemy anyway. Guy was with Jimmy and the crew in SBC and as Governor he basically gave us a blank check and kept our people in labor very happy so its just understood that the guy has our politics. Bill says he made a good “Steward of the Dream” in Little Rock. We even thought of having him say that to CNN or somebody so Mike could use it for a little boost. But Hill said too obvious.

Doesn’t matter. Main thing is he’s the spoiler she needed so she can run against McInsane. If we had to have gone against the other I don’t think anybody in the whole Devil’s Workshop woulda known how exactly to take out Mr. Goody-2-Shoes. McC though we can paint any way we want to any audience on any given day. A dream enemy. He’s so damn dumb he doesn’t even know what’s going to hit him. He’s spent his whole career as a Reep making himself a pig in a poke—I mean what does he expect? Like we’re not going to point out to voters that that’s what they’ll get if they give it up for him?

Nobody’s that stupid. Nobody’s as stupid as McInsane.

By @@

January 31, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

rushncap is an optimist…..

I’m speechless.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Dreaming about women is a nightmare for me.

I’d rather dream about that hunk of a man Bill Clinton.

Monica Lewinsky is one lucky girl.

By Political Foreskin

January 31, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Hey TakemyWife: Did Britney have a drunken slut sister in your dream for me?

By Paul

January 31, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

@@ 6:51

What’d I say? A little faith in the ability of mankind to progress and see what happens?

By rushncap

January 31, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Paul — please tell me that you haven’t been reading @@/RW/RB’s posts to glean what my view is. I’d lose all respect for you.

So first of all, I don’t have an easy solution. I never said I did. However, just because ~I~ don’t have a solution, does that mean there is no problem? I don’t know how to cure cancer either, that doesn’t mean it’s not killing people. But I AM saying that we need to start investigating possible solutions now, rather than when we wake up and find that 4 billion people died of starvation in Africa or Asia.

And yes, most predictions about the future miss their mark. That does not mean that we’ll somehow turn into beings which need not consume any energy to survive. 2nd law of thermodynamics prevents that from happening. So unless that gets repealed we will always need resources, of whatever sort. And if you look back 10, 100, 1000, 1000000, 1000000000 or more years, every creature on this planet has needed food. You can stack human beings miles high, they’ll still need a hamburger now and then.

RB, your post requires about as much response as someone asking a baseball player why he doesn’t just drive a car to get around the bases faster.

By Luckoduh

January 31, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife January 31, 2008 6:42 PM I had a dream about Britney last night.}}}}

That was pretty funny, al-Gitmo, but it also revealed a part of you most people would probably not admit to.

Dreaming about Britney?

Back in the Mickey Mouse days it was like off limits and then she got fat.

You’re really sick, man.

~~~~~

Isn’t it funny how the writers of the Bible knew the things that the pinkos of today would whine about, 2000 years before they did it?

Jesus probably spent his time on Earth thinking “My God, our liberal children are silly.”

I always laugh when they get to the libs in the Bible, “I can’t walk on water,” or “you want me to fight all these Palestinians with just two hundred men?”

When will you morons ever learn to listen to Him?

By getalife

January 31, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

pf,

No, all for me wanker.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Paul,

How do you feel about me being gay?

You seem like an understanding gentleman. Someone I can talk too.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

duh,

You brute, you brute, you vicious brute!!!

By Paul

January 31, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

rushncap

‘Course not! I can arrive at my own conclusions, thank you veddy much.

Neither do I think the solutions are easy. Or even am sure what they are. Only that there is an answer there if mankind will avail itself of it.

I also agree that the time to begin is - yesterday.

I just don’t think the future is bleak, or hopeless. Quite the contrary.

getalife imposter

I like happy people. Or entertaining people who stick by their principles. Which is why I enjoy trading ideas with the real getalife.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Whenever I talk about my sexuality, you all just pick up and leave.

Its not right I tell you!

By getalife

January 31, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Thank you Paul,

I am a psychic and therefore know that the Clintons will be back in office.

That’s why I’m sprucing up my resume so I can be an intern.

I’m dreaming of a white clintons just like the ones I used to know.

Bwa.

By getalife

January 31, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

I know duh but not as sick as pf, the gay wanker.

She was hefty with oily brown hair in my dream.

No sex, but a little loving. She was weirded out, in la la land.

Weird, that day she was taken away to that place that tried to help you.

How is that CDS today?

By joe

January 31, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

blogs are proof youre out of control sick hateful minds if i could push a button make you all disappear the world would be a decent place to live wheres the love? 50 years from now it wont matter

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