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By Mike Luckovich | Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 08:37 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Uh, you meant “Bushie- Bushie- Bushie- Bushie,” didn’t you?

That’s what the cartoon really says.

Lame~O.

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{{{{COUNTDOWN 2008: A SUPER BOOST: Florida gives McCain push for next week’s races-Urinal}}}}

Yeah, a “Super Boost” for war in Iran, hehehehe.

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{{{{MORTGAGE CRISIS!!: Abandoned pets often victims of foreclosure!!!-Urinal!!!!}}}}

{{{{The house was ravaged —- its floors ripped, walls busted and lights smashed by owners who trashed their home before a bank foreclosed on it. Hidden in the wreckage was an abandoned member of the family: a starving pit bull.-Urinal}}}}

Look at these dimwit liberals, is the real story here one of abandoned pets?

Do we not see the larger crime or does the AJC condone trashing a foreclosed house, the exact sort of childish outburst that the racist liberals seem to enjoy?

Like the KKKlintons did to the White House?

What kind of person would a) commit a felony property damage to his own monetary interests, b) thereby increasing the amount of money that they will owe creditors?

A pretty stupid freaking uncivilized mouth breather, right?

And what is the Urinal worried about?

The pus-sy cat.

Geez.

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{{{{Democrats arrive, look to gain ground- Thousands of Democrats are expected to descend on Atlanta and the Georgia World Congress Center this evening for the party’s big annual bash and fund-raiser, the Jefferson-Jackson dinner. -Urinal}}}}

What, no traffic jams to whine about AJC?

You know, like you do every time a Republican comes to town?

Thought we’d forget, eh?

Don’t worry, I’m sure the dimwit voters of yours didn’t notice.

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

State of the Union Came With a Signing Statement

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

One of Key SOTU Lies Was a Rerun

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

Fox News is in for a very rough 2008

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Barack Obama responds to the State of the Union

By w00t

January 30, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

DUH, you are so lame.

Oh, look at me; I can make a funny name using the letter ‘K’ for the billionth time, just like Sesame Street taught me.

OH! I can make a funny name out of AJC!! That’ll show’em! I R so smart! What words do I know?? Urinal…Urinal….Urinal…oh, wait I know… URINAL!! HEHEHE, so clever.

I hope McCain wins so he’ll destroy your worthless party.

In the words of Zero Wing:

“You have no chance to survive, make your time, HA HA HA!”

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

All hail to the President Blah-Blah-Blah!

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

IntheNews @ 8:25 — Dubya is looking more n’ more like Alfred E. Newnam, and talkin’ like him, too: “what, me worry?”

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

McCain Can, And Will, Still Be Defeated

By @@

January 30, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

(((Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani was already speaking about his campaign in the past tense Tuesday night. “I’m proud that we chose to stay positive and run a campaign of ideas,” he said. “We ran a campaign that was uplifting,”)))

Yes you did Rudy! and for that you can be proud.

In his SOTU Bush had this to say ml…

“I’ve heard that there are those with wealth who say they should be paying more in taxes.”

“Well, they should know that the IRS accepts money orders or checks so they can do just that.”

Do you ever wonder why the Bill Gates of the world don’t “give” it to the government? they know where it works and where it doesn’t.

Follow their lead, and you too can enjoy a wealth of knowledge along with monetary wealth if you’re so inclined.

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Buh-bye to Rudy! Buh-bye!

By JP

January 30, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Lukodoh, yep you sealed the deal. I am voting democrat just to cancel you vote out.

And no, I am not a democrat, nor a republican. I am truly independent and think independently. You should try it sometime.

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

The Repug voters in FLA just loved McCain’s uplifting message to America: “your jobs are not coming back”, “there will be other wars”, and “I don’t know much about the economy”…

The Dems can’t wait for November!

By @@

January 30, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Oh, almost forgot! A funny cartoon.

Bill or Teddy?

It’s hard to tell the difference.

The Lion that hoard…and

Eeewwwwwwww!

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 30, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

It’s interesting the Florida Republican primary was won by Senator John McCain who opposed Mr. Bush’s Tax cuts for the highest income earners in the nation.

“in a floor statement during the Senate debate on the 2001 tax cut bill, McCain did not mention the absence of offsetting spending cuts; rather, he stated, “I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief.”

There are real fiscally conservative Republicans left.

It’s also interesting the winner does not want to see Roe V. Wade overturned.

McCain is certainly the best candidate the GOP has. But he IS beatable.

And the right wing noise machine will help.

Michelle Malkin: “Well. We hear what he says now. But we know what he has done for years: Insult the base, trash the base, and pay lip service to the base only when it suits his needs…..

Laura Ingraham: “The problem with McCain goes deeper than what he says about taxes and what he says today about immigration that contradicts what he said days or weeks ago. It’s about the battles McCain chooses to fight and the enemies he chooses to make. McCain consistently chooses the wrong battles and makes enemies out of the very people he now expects to carry him to the White House”

Rush Limbaugh: “it’s going to destroy the Republican Party.”

Hugh Hewitt: “Sen. McCain is a great American, a lousy senator and a terrible Republican. He has a legislative record that is not conservative. In fact, it is anti-conservative.”

Rick Santorum: McCain will not get the base of the Republican Party. I mean, there was a reason John McCain collapsed last year, and it’s because he was the frontrunner, and everybody in the Republican Party got a chance to look at him. And when they looked at him, they wait well, wait a minute, he’s not with us on almost all of the core issues of…on the economic side, he was against the President’s tax cuts, he was bad on immigration. On the environment, he’s absolutely terrible. He buys into the complete left wing environmentalist movement in this country. He is for bigger government on a whole laundry list of issues. He was…I mean, on medical care, I mean, he was for re-importation of drugs. I mean, you can go on down the list. I mean, this is a guy who on a lot of the core economic issues, is n

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

{{{{Now far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Obama campaign; truth be told, all conservatives should be praying for a Clinton nomination. But if certain members of the press who are friendly to the Big O really want to dig up some dirt on the odious operations of team Clinton, here’s a little clue: Bill Clinton was impeached.}}}}

{{{{Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.}}}}

{{{{All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary’s convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.}}}}

{{{{THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn’t be in better hands.}}}}

Continued-

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Continued-

{{{{And speaking of Clinton cronies, maybe President Hillary will solve our energy problems by rescinding an Executive Order signed by her husband in 1996 which designated 1.7 million acres in Utah as a national monument. The now untouchable land is the site of the world’s largest deposit of environmentally-safe, clean-burning coal; 62 billion tons of it. The owner of the second largest? Clinton bagman, James Riady’s Lippo Group of Indonesia.}}}}

{{{{Here is a man that issued tainted pardons to relatives, terrorists, murderers, drug dealers and fugitives from American justice. Yet, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton feel no compunction when lecturing Obama about his associations with “slumlord” Tony Rezko. This is a couple who basically backed a truck up to the White House to collect “souvenirs,” trashed Air Force One and whose staffers vandalized West Wing offices in a childish display of pique. Yet this twosome now seeks to paint their opponent as immature.}}}}

Bwa.

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

{{{{Now far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Obama campaign; truth be told, all conservatives should be praying for a Clinton nomination. But if certain members of the press who are friendly to the Big O really want to dig up some dirt on the odious operations of team Clinton, here’s a little clue: Bill Clinton was impeached.}}}}

{{{{Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.}}}}

{{{{All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary’s convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.}}}}

{{{{THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn’t be in better hands.}}}}

Continued-

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

{{{{Now far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Obama campaign; truth be told, all conservatives should be praying for a Clinton nomination. But if certain members of the press who are friendly to the Big O really want to dig up some dirt on the odious operations of team Clinton, here’s a little clue: Bill Clinton was impeached.}}}}

{{{{Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.}}}}

{{{{All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary’s convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.}}}}

{{{{THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn’t be in better hands.}}}}

Continued-

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

{{{{Now far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Obama campaign; truth be told, all conservatives should be praying for a Clinton nomination. But if certain members of the press who are friendly to the Big O really want to dig up some dirt on the odious operations of team Clinton, here’s a little clue: Bill Clinton was impeached.}}}}

{{{{Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.}}}}

{{{{All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary’s convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.}}}}

{{{{THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn’t be in better hands.}}}}

Continued-

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

{{{{Now far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Obama campaign; truth be told, all conservatives should be praying for a Clinton nomination. But if certain members of the press who are friendly to the Big O really want to dig up some dirt on the odious operations of team Clinton, here’s a little clue: Bill Clinton was impeached.}}}}

{{{{Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.}}}}

{{{{All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary’s convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.}}}}

{{{{THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn’t be in better hands.}}}}

Continued-

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

{{{{Now far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Obama campaign; truth be told, all conservatives should be praying for a Clinton nomination. But if certain members of the press who are friendly to the Big O really want to dig up some dirt on the odious operations of team Clinton, here’s a little clue: Bill Clinton was impeached.}}}}

{{{{Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.}}}}

{{{{All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary’s convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.}}}}

{{{{THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn’t be in better hands.}}}}

Continued-

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Please notice the subtle name change here today:

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 8:03 AM

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 8:49 AM

The only other posters between are these are ITN, Goldie, w00t, JP and @@.

Curious?

Maybe he’s back and forth at Wootens?

By George

January 30, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Looks like another AndyDuh/Dull meltdown coming.

By Objective Observer

January 30, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Now, now ITN. What did you expect?

For the last 3 years this blog has been Luckoduh’s whole life. Of course he uses multiple id’s around here.

By Paul

January 30, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Goldie 8:42

This is from boston.com and puts the remark in context:

McCain conceded yesterday that he had made such a remark.

“It was in the context of a conversation on my qualifications to serve: that I am proud of my record as chairman of the commerce committee, of being involved in every single major issue that affects this country,” he said.

In fact, on numerous occasions over the course of the campaign, McCain has volunteered that he is unsatisfied with his lack of knowledge about aspects of economics.

“I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated,” McCain told the Wall Street Journal in late November.

In December he said, “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” as the Globe reported on its “Political Intelligence” blog at the time.

On at least one occasion, McCain has raised the matter himself. On Nov. 10, while traveling through New Hampshire on his Straight Talk Express bus, McCain was asked what he would seek in a vice presidential candidate if nominated.

After mentioning the ability of a potential running mate to replace the president, McCain said, “You also look for people who maybe have talents you don’t, or experience or knowledge you don’t, as well.”

“What are those qualities that you don’t - that you wouldn’t mind complementing?” asked David Brooks, a columnist for The New York Times.

McCain paused. “Uh, maybe I shouldn’t say this, but, somebody who’s really well grounded in economics,” he said.

“I think I understand the fundamentals, I talk to people all the time on economics - it’s obviously a vital part of America’s future,” McCain continued. “But I know there are some people who have literally immersed themselves on issues of economics, how Congress works on it, the tax code, that sort of thing. I would look for that kind of talent not in a vice president but in close advisers.”

“They are complicated,” McCain said of economic issues, “and I freely admit I am not an economist.”

continued…

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

How many MILLIONS of $$$ did Rudy spend of the Repugs’ donations, in order to come in a close 3rd with Gov. Huckleberry in FLA? If was a Rudy fool, I’d be pretty darn p!ssed @ his campaign advisers who blew through all that dough for absolutely nothing!

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 9:09 — so you’re in agreement that McCain’s message is quite dismal for America’s future? No jobs coming back, more wars, and does not know much about how our economy works…

Like I posted, hurry up November!

By Mike

January 30, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

What a pathetic cartoon. I’ve read all kinds of partisan attacks on Bush’s speech and the notion that he was just going through the motions is unique to Luckovich. I guess he just decided to make up some stupid attack instead of doing a single cartoon about the racial hatred in the Democratic race. That’s what makes Mike a partisan and that’s why he is boring and tedious.

What will Mikey doodle if a Democrat wins the White House? He stopped commenting on Congress the second the Democrats took control. We can assume that he is too mindlessly partisan to ever comment on a Democrat candidate. God knows we haven’t seen a criticism of a Democrat at the city level since super-crook Democrat Bill Campbell. I guess he will just have to be content on bashing Georgia state officials, assuming they stay Republican. If that changes, Mikey will limit his attacks to his peers like O’Reilly.

Too bad Mikey’s mindless partisanship makes him so limited and boring. Then again, it doesn’t take much make this liberal echo chamber happy. Goldie applauds like a trained seal to any attack on a conservative, regardless of how stupid it is.

By George

January 30, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

BREAKING NEWS: John Edwards dropping out of presidential race, Associated Press reports

By w00t

January 30, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Mike, it’s too bad that you’re a partisan hack with the blinders covering your eyes and cotton in your ears. Talk radio, fox news, and your own party tell you how to walk, talk, read, listen, and write. You have no thoughts of your own. Get a brain and get a clue. Bush’s SoTU speech was so full of inaccuracies, I’m surprised he can even seen straight.

You and your kind have brought more problems to this country than what OBL and his crew could ever dream of.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

What possible difference could it make to you how much Rudy spent in DONATIONS to come in third in Florida?

Did you have some plan to pick the pockets of those DONORS?

Better yet do you believe in the personal freedom to DONATE?

By LuckoDuh

January 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Man, I have no idea why 8:52 came back 5 more times.

All with the same time on them?

Ever thought about upgrading the server AJC?

By AMBER ALERT

January 30, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Mike is one of Luckoduh’s alter ego’s. “Mike” makes one appearance everyday to whine about the cartoon. He’s the whiner of the collection.

Sock Puppet

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

All your base are belong to us

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mrs. G,

Which way are you leaning now? Mitt could use some support and Georgia is an open primary.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 30, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

I can clearly see that Mitt could use some support, but I already have an Obama yard sign!

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS January 30, 2008 8:58 AM Please notice the subtle name change here today: By Luckoduh January 30, 2008 8:03 AM By LuckoDuh January 30, 2008 8:49 AM}}}}

Oh yeah, what a huge conspiracy theory you have uncovered Sherlock.

This coming from the same loser that has used Hey Duh and who knows how many other names to help with it’s role as luckovich blog attack puppy.

GFY, dimwit.

By w00t

January 30, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

By Luckoduh January 30, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{{GFY, dimwit.}}}

Nice. Did your mother teach you to write like that or your alcoholic father?

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

HEY DUH,

I WAS MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT!

YOU”RE GONNA HAVE TO “GFY”….YOU AINT GOT NO ONE ELSE TO DO IT!

PITIFUL OLD REPROBATE!

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS January 30, 2008 8:58 AM Please notice the subtle name change here today: By Luckoduh January 30, 2008 8:03 AM By LuckoDuh January 30, 2008 8:49 AM}}}}

Oh yeah, what a huge conspiracy theory you have uncovered Sherlock.

This coming from the same loser that has used Hey Duh and who knows how many other names to help with it’s role as luckovich blog attack puppy.

GFY, dimwit.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS January 30, 2008 8:58 AM Please notice the subtle name change here today: By Luckoduh January 30, 2008 8:03 AM By LuckoDuh January 30, 2008 8:49 AM}}}}

Oh yeah, what a huge conspiracy theory you have uncovered Sherlock.

This coming from the same loser that has used Hey Duh and who knows how many other names to help with it’s role as luckovich blog attack puppy.

GFY, dimwit.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS January 30, 2008 8:58 AM Please notice the subtle name change here today: By Luckoduh January 30, 2008 8:03 AM By LuckoDuh January 30, 2008 8:49 AM}}}}

Oh yeah, what a huge conspiracy theory you have uncovered Sherlock.

This coming from the same loser that has used Hey Duh and who knows how many other names to help with it’s role as luckovich blog attack puppy.

GFY, dimwit.

By getalife

January 30, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

So, Clinton kicked some major a-ss in Florida. Obama busted in lying about not shaking her hand and donated more Rezko slum lord thousands to charity with more to come with his scandal. This guy can’t be trusted.

rudy and Edwards are history.It will be Clinton vs McInsane and Clinton will destroy that little more war monger.

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Democrats need to plaster this everywhere

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

More McCain

By Shawny

January 30, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

10:19….Clinton’s ‘victory’ in FLA doesn’t mean anything. Though he isn’t my first choice, next January you will be hearing President McCain. Sorry lefties.

Too many solid endorsements to lose to the other GOP candidates. And he trounces Hill straight up. He has shown time and time again how to work together, while she is as divisive as a wood-splitting wedge.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

I hate to see Edwards dropping out, but I’m not surprised. I kind of had the feeling he would last week. Wonder who he’ll endorse?

Out of curiosity: to all Luckovich bloggers - who do you think will win the Georgia primary?

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Hey RW, how’s “President Romney” doing this fine morning?

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 10:38 — I predict Obama for the Dems and Huckleberry for the Repugs…

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

I thought it was pretty sad that Hillary was trying to create some momentum for herself out of the FLA “straw poll” results… all the candidates were banned from campaigning in that state and Hillary wants to eke out some kind of victory for herself in the deal.

Hillary needs to stop embarassing the Dems and play by the DNC rules for primaries.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Yeah Goldie, that’s who I was thinking too. I was just curious as to what everyone else thought.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

My gut feeling is that it’ll be Clinton and McCain in Georgia, but a lot of things come onto play in the next few days.

If there is a crossover movement of moderates to vote for Obama and a conservative backlash over the dishonest smear tactics McCain used in Florida those two things would add up to Obama and Romney winning.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Polly: Will you stop with the triple namejacks please?

I ain’t the one doing it.

Geez.

By Say It Ain't So

January 30, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Bosch (10:38) My WAG is Hillary and Romney, of which I think neither will get the nod from their parties.

Just my Wild A$$ Guess.

Neither party has anyone worth a pile of beans!

By getalife

January 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Obama’s scandal

He lied about shaking her hand and Clinton took the high road and said she looks forward to showing unity and shake his hand.

After super Tuesday she will have a huge delegate lead and the DNC said they could petition to seat the delegates in Michigan and Florida.

It will be Clinton vs McInsane with Clinton crushing the little more war monger. He will lose on every single issue.

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

RW:

That was a good story, did you see the one from the other day where they coyote was trying to elude border patrol and when he leapt from the car the car door sliced his ear clean off…

By getalife

January 30, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

RW,

They love Ted Kennedy in the South. Florida proved that.

Your gut feeling is correct.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

The other day ITFS was posting multiple times with the same time stamp since his laundry list of some kind of spam posted out of order. I suspect this loser is just trying to emulate Polly.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

RW and Say It Ain’t So,

I was thinking Huckabee because of all the evangelicals we have here, but I think many of them will vote for McCain because he is the front runner now.

Either - or, it’s going to get interesting.

By Shawny

January 30, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Love TK in the South? Clinton topping Mac on issues?

Man, Geta…you need to lay off that crackpipe.

Republican voters in the general election will (reluctantly) back Mac, while McCain does better than either Democrat with unaffiliated voters in the new survey, but especially when Clinton is his opponent. Against the former First Lady, he leads 52% to 31% with unaffiliateds..

McCain now leads Clinton 48% to 40%. He leads Barack Obama 47% to 41%.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Geee, I guess RW must’ve missed my post. He’ll probably not see this one as well, but I might as well try: how’s “President Romney” doing this fine morning, RW?

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

The evangelical block vote is a myth created by Democrats and passed along by the liberal media to paint Republicans as some kind of zealots. If you don’t believe that ask Lt. Governor Ralph Reed.

What support Huckabee does get will all be chalked up to evangelicals, but I bet most of it will be FairTax supporters.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

rushncap,

We’re having a discussion here this morning which I must say is refreshing.

If the blog gets back to throwing feces we’ll look you up.

Wsfw,

I didn’t see that coyote story, but talk about karma smacking you upside the head.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Ah yes, our resident “expert on everything” now telling us that the entire political and media establishment is wrong, and he, the child savant of backwoods Georgia, truly knows what the other 300,000,000 Americans are thinking.

I guess, what he lacks in… well, everything else, he makes up in hubris. Good for him!

By getalife

January 30, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

No crack swarmy,

Just reality.

Get ready for President Clinton.

The karma is coming.

By now we know

January 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

[[At his weekly pen-and-pad session with reporters, Hoyer criticized the Bush administration for creating “a deep deficit.” When asked if the stimulus package would raise that deficit further, Hoyer said, “Yes, but every economist will tell you a balanced budget is good but they will also tell you that there are times when the creation of a deficit is necessary. This is one of those times. These are unique times.”]]

[[“I think it [deficit spending] is justified because we are trying to stimulate the economy,” said Hoyer.]]

[[Following his remarks on reducing the deficit, ?????Hoyer called congressional earmarks (pork barrel projects) “an investment in our community.” He also said he would not agree to commit to the proposed six-month moratorium on earmarks that Republicans have requested.?????]]

By {{getalife}}

January 30, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

If Clinton or Obama makes it to the White House, the bumper stickers are ready for distribution! 

‘Where’s Booth and Oswald when we REALLY need them?’

By Goldie

January 30, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

{The karma is coming.}

Look out, getalife — your karma will be all over you if Sen. Obama is our candidate in November. You should keep your hateful postings in check right now and remember that this is only the primary race.

By getalife

January 30, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Not hateful Goldie, just reality. I live there.

Now, this is hateful and I would never write this crap:

“By {{getalife}}

January 30, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

If Clinton or Obama makes it to the White House, the bumper stickers are ready for distribution! 

‘Where’s Booth and Oswald when we REALLY need them?’”

If you want hate, talk to that wanker.

By getalife

January 30, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

{} used in both posts.

You need to hide that hate a little better Goldie.

Anyhoo, off to better blogs.

Geez.

By Shawny

January 30, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

RW, I totally agree that Huck’s popularity has nothing to do with evangelicals as a voting bloc, but rather that he is the most personable and (gives the appearance) of honest of the bunch. Mitt appears too slick.

Here is another reason you will be saying President McCain next year: The Hispanic numbers were even more striking for McCain: 51 percent of Hispanics backed him,….

McAmnesty resonates with them…Rudamnesty backs him.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

This ain’t no endorsement by the Duh Report but check this out:

{{{{The latest Rasmussen Reports survey of Election 2008 shows Republican frontrunner Senator John McCain with single-digit leads over Democratic Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. McCain now leads Clinton 48% to 40%. He leads Barack Obama 47% to 41%.}}}}

Bombing Iran and getting rid of Ku Klux Rodham Klinton, hmmmmm.

That would be killing two big fat birds with one Mcpinko.

Hmmmmmmm.

~~~~~

Now check this out, why Florida?

{{{{Edwards to Quit Presidential Race}}}}

He couldn’t have figured this out in South Carolina?

Florida didn’t even count, Ku Klux was the only one shameless enough to Kampaign there.

Was Ms. Dimwit Edwards basing her whole campaign on a non state?

By Shawny

January 30, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Not suprising that Lucko pens the SOTU. Too bad he didn’t jump on the TK supporting Obama bandwagon. Here is the best I have seen so far

followed closely

by this one

By Dubya

January 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Hark! McCain will be the man. Great. Another narrow-minded military cretin. Perhaps he’ll take the world on another Saturday afternoon liars’ shopping trip in Baghdad. Always the same Repunk mentality: “Let Us Step Backwards, Into The Darkness!” Allah Akbar!

By RE

January 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Couple things about florida.

First, 1.68 mil votes cast for dems, 1.92 cast for republicans.

Dems had no delagates at stake, only one ballot issue, and no active dem campaigning and got 1.68 million votes. GOP has been hitting the airwaves constantly, strong get out the vote measures, and was the big contest before super tuesday, they should have blown away the dems in the amount of votes.

2nd, 2 things about hillary’s win. Florida is a closed primary state, so no independents can vote, in my county they make up 23% of registered voters. Democrats here tend to be disciplined in following the party line, and early on that was for clinton. the other thing is that many of these votes were cast way back in december and early january.

I have a feeling that with proportional voting, barack and hillary are going to be tied after feb 5th, but with edwards out, Barak has more to gain than hillary.

By The eagle has landed

January 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Nader launches 2008 exploratory presidential bid with appeal to fight big corporations

and the dems goose is cooked.

By {{Goldie}}

January 30, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Who was pi$$ed the most?

Clinton, because Teddy Kennedy supports Obmam?

OR

Obmam, because a murdering, drunk and son of a drug dealer backs him?

Folks the {} in the name belongs to ME, not getalife or goldie. It makes it easier for me to know which idiot i’m responding to.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

AARRGGHH, my last post was dropped.

RW,

No, the evangelical block vote is not a Democratic myth, it is a huge weakness within the Republican party causing the GOP to disintegrate before our very eyes!

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 30, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Edwards and Rudy quit. As if they were ever in it. Gee, who is going to quit next?

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

RE,

In the real world about 50% of registered Republicans in Florida voted and about 40% of registered Democrats did.

Should we use those numbers to predict the election? My guess is no, but this isn’t an election for dog catcher and I’m pretty sure people in Florida knew there was a race for President going on and that at the end of the process their delegates are likely to be seated.

What was the amendment that was also on the ballot?

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

40% of Democrats came out to vote in a meaningless election. 50% of Republicans came out to vote in a meaningful election. And they STILL chose the guy RW hates oh so much.

Life must suck right about now for him…

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I’m sure it seems that way from everything you read and hear, but the evidence doesn’t bear it out. Again, if the evangelical vote in Georgia was huge and voted as a monolithic block then Ralph Reed would be the Lt. Governor.

By RE

January 30, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

RW,

The ballot intiative was a complex state constitutional admendment that slightly lowers property taxes. It passed by 70%, it helps longtime florida residents who move into different homes within the state. It was pushed by the governor, a good thing in general, but more of a republican draw than a dem one.

I wonder if michigan had any ballot initiatives when they voted.

I mean, come on, when you know your delagates are not going to count and you still go out to vote, that is a sign.

Either way, as long as romney gets pushed out, and the race is between McCain and either dem nominee, I think it will be a positive change for the country.

By @@

January 30, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

I see rushncap has been trying all morning to flex “his muscle”.

rushncap: Nobody’s life could suck as much as yours—you get your sex education, not to mention your intellectual stimulation from the Family Guy cartoon episodes.

You really have reduced yourself to pathetic.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Ralph Reed wasn’t elected because he’s a crook, and everyone knows it. He’s a slimy little git.

I know, I know, why wasn’t he prosecuted? Because he, like OJ, and Scooter Libby.

Ask any evangelical who they have voted for in the past 12 years - I’ll bet you in 99% of the cases (my mother being the exception to the rule) it’s a Republican.

Evangelicals vote for evangelicals. Republicans politicians pretend to be evangelical, pious men of God when in most cases nothing can be further from the truth.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Uh oh, left something out - previous post, second paragraph:

“Because he, like OJ, an Scooter Libby, had good lawyers and powerful friends.”

Sorry.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

RE,

I doubt that they will follow through on not counting the delegates, but I also think that even if they do the voters there knew they would have tremendous influence going forward.

Bosch,

You would have more of a point if Reed had won the nomination and then lost the general election, but he lost by 12% in the primary.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

RW,

You’re right about that, true, but I still stick by my opinion that evangelicals play a huge influence in how a person votes in this part of the country. It was a brilliant move for the GOP to align themselves with the evangelicals. It made them feel powerful, for once, and they went with it.

I too, have a hard time believing that Florida and Michigan’s delegates won’t count at the convention.

Can anyone tell me why the DNC was so mad because they changed the date of the primary?

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

By the way, I really like today’s cartoon, I thought the same thing about the State of the Union speech.

By getalife

January 30, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Blah, blah, blah…….

Just admit I am right and move on .

Geez.

Anyhoo, mukasey is getting drilled on waterboarding on C-Span.

Too bad Edwards is not AG to bring justice to all the criminals in Washington.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

The Republicans also punished Florida for moving up the date by cutting the delegate count in half. It is kind of ridiculous to get a nominee in February and then not actually nominate them until August. Hopefully some sanity will return to this process in 2012.

Oddly the way the Democrats use proportional distribution of delegates there is less of a difference to them than there is to McCain since the Republican side was winner take all.

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

The DNC got mad because they felt that with Florida moving up their day it would take less away from New Hampshire and Iowa. So that is why they punished Mich and Florida. You bring up a good point, what is to keep a candidate from suing to get those delegates..

And yes the evangelical played a big role in the GOP the past 7 years, and that has helped destroy this country. Thomas Jefferson said it best:

Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

By IN THE NEWS

January 30, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

McCains campaign slogan

“The jobs are never coming back, the illegals are never going home, but we’re gonna have a lot more wars”

WHOOPEE!

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Hey @@, I see you’re still ducking my question about the tread on those tires. Tisk tisk… is it really so worn off you’re afraid to answer? Wow. Do you rent it out as a parking garage when you visit a big city?

By RE

January 30, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Ok RW and other pro gop folks out there, if you had a choice between dems, which one would it be, clinton or obama.

I know for my choice among the republicans it would be McCain. Voted for him in the GA primary back in the day, didn’t do any good though.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

W stands for the W,

This is another dumb question from me today - I just don’t bother with primaries too much:

Why all the hoorah about New Hampshire and Iowa? It seems to me they should let the states do their own thing, whatever happened to states rights?

By @@

January 30, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Wsfw quotes Jefferson and I thought I’d share:

My minister…yes MY MINISTER delivered a sermon regarding violence within Christianity’s history. Long sermon short…

There’s a big difference between religion and an individual’s faith.

Evangelicals are rooted in “America’s” traditional values. Our crusades today are in pursuit of those…nothing more.

Off to Stratfor.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

RE,

Do you mean the one we would rather run against or the one we’d rather have a President if we have to have a Democrat?

I voted for Al Sharpton the last time the primaries were in town.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 30, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

I just don’t see how any of the presidential candidates are going to have much success fixing ALL of the problems in the U.S. now, much less a few of them. There are just SO MANY issues facing this country, and the world, and so little time or intellect available. I guess you need more ego than brainpower to be president. Oh, well, that’s just me.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa -

You are a funny man.

“I guess you need more ego than brainpower to be president. Oh, well, that’s just me.”

And President Bush!!!!!

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I’m with you, i think primaries are a big waste of time. And all the media outlets jump overthemselves to be the first to report who won when nobody cares. Well to me Iowa and New Hampshire are made to feel important once every 4 years by the candidates because once they get to Washington they are forgotten just like the common folks unless they have a lobbyist..

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Evangelicals think they have a monopoly on “American values”. How laughable. Translation — they have a monopoly on obsession with other people’s sex lives.

Who knew envy is a core American value??

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

W stands for the worst,

So true. This whole business with Michigan and Florida is simply ridiculous, you’d think the Democrats would be jumping all over themselves to work things out. I mean in the grand scheme of things, who really cares when states hold their primaries? It just makes the party look bad, and believe me, we don’t need anymore bad press.

Rushncap,

And when did intolerance and bigotry become American values? Damn.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

How’s that economy issue working out for you pinkos?

{{{{Stocks Jump Following Interest Rate Cut- Dow 12,680.27 +199.97 +1.60%}}}}

Bwa.

By Chip Shirley

January 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

H U C K A B E E…L E A D S…I N…. A L L..S O UT H E R N…S T A T ES..

FOR…SUPER…TUESDAY………………………

Huckabee is the only southern candidate left in the field on either side. After Tuesday he will have passed Romney in delegates and be close to McCain in second. He still can win this thing.

HUCKABEE: “Time to be Americans Again” mikehuckabee.com

By getalife

January 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

The karma will be beautiful and has already started with the gop retiring in droves.

The latest is Tom Davis and has brought a big smile from President Bill Clinton.

Bwa.

By @@

January 30, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

RE:

I can’t believe you excluded Mike Gravel.

Mike Gravel….he’s my man!

If he can’t do it NO DEM CAN.

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

@@ says:

“Evangelicals are rooted in “America’s” traditional values. Our crusades today are in pursuit of those…nothing more.”

Shows how ignorant your minister is. That quote is the biggest misnomer on our country since the right to bear arms. If im not mistaken the Indians were here before the Evangelicals. And once they arrived they really treated them with Gods love didnt they?

By @@

January 30, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

(((And when did intolerance and bigotry become American values?)))

Good question Bosch.

You may want to ask Hillary and Bill about that. I’ve never seen such a mess in my life as the one they’ve exposed about Democrats.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch — it never was. But you see devoting countless millions of man hours and dollars trying to prevent the “wrong” people from getting married is a much wiser use of resources than trying to, for example, get inner city kids to stop dealing drugs and killing each other. And it’s far more key to spend energy on fighting pornography or abortion than trying to provide health care for children and clean up our environment.

By Chip Shirley

January 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

H U C K A B E E…L E A D S…I N…. A L L..S O UT H E R N…S T A T ES..

FOR…SUPER…TUESDAY………………………

Huckabee is the only southern candidate left in the field on either side. After Tuesday he will have passed Romney in delegates and be close to McCain in second. He still can win this thing.

HUCKABEE: “Time to be Americans Again” mikehuckabee.com

By @@

January 30, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Let me help you out there Wsfw.

(((“Evangelicals are rooted in “America’s” traditional values. Our crusades ——>today<—— are in pursuit of those…nothing more.”)))

We’re progressive too.

Why you liberals insist on living in the past is beyond me.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

@@,

That’s blown out of proportion and you and the rest of the country knows it. You’re chasing straws, and perpetuating lies.

Why don’t you ask Huckabee how he feels about women’s rights?

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

@@

I think Bush has trumped them for a long time with his bigotry. Go ask the Byrd family. You remember them, James Byrd was dragged to his death behind a truck will Dubya was Gov. He wouldnt meet the Byrd family and when he finally did he wouldnt look them in the eye or shake their hand. And when they pressed him to sign a bill on hate crimes he refused because it would cover gays and lesbians. So who is the bigger bigot?

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

@@,

Also, “the biggest mess” you’ve ever seen? My, you don’t get out much. The Iraq war is about the biggest bungling mess I’ve ever seen.

Now, go put on some Peggy Lee and Patsy Cline, twirl around the room, and go back to @@ land while reading your Stratfor scripture.

By Devastator

January 30, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

W stands for worst,

I think @@ was talking about Evangelicals today, not the ones in ancient history. Catch up.

By @@

January 30, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Sorry guys. I’m out the door for my daily four mile. I’ll check back in upon my return.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Okay, John in Tampa and RE, the mermaids are going to become state employees? Oh, how I loved those Weeki Wachee mermaids when I was a kid. They scared me a little, sure, but oh, they were oh so beautiful.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:46 PM

{{{And yes the evangelical played a big role in the GOP the past 7 years, and that has helped destroy this country.}}}

There you have it sports fans!! More tolerance from the liberal left. If you happen to be a Christain and don’t agree with WSFW, everything wrong in the world, in fact, the history of the world, is your fault. Never mind there have been Christains in this country since it’s inception who played major roles in making it the great nation it is, in this dimwits world, all that’s bad is your fault. And yes, WSFW, Christians were here during the WW’s and every event before and since. So you’re saying in the last 7 years their voting their convictions has ruined us? Amazing….

Don’t bother replying. I’m not going to bother engaging someone as shallow as you in any meaningful discussion. To do so would be completely pointleess.

The issue of the primaries is nobody wants to be the last primary because at that point most of the also rans have dropped out and your states primary becomes a waste of time and money. States keep trying to move theirs forward so they’ll matter. Candidates will come, they’ll get great photo ops, a few autographed 8x10’s, rub some elbows, etc. It the “one upmanship” of moving these things forward continues, we’ll be starting the ‘12 election cycle in Jan ‘09. There’s nothing other than these silly delegate withholding schemes to stop it.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Run awayyyyyyyyyyy, @@, run awayyyyyyyy! You have perfected that maneuver.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Oh, I just love RB’s debating tactics, so intellectual. I’ll bet he was the debating captain in high school.

By Copyleft

January 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

RB: You’ll notice he specified evangelicals, not “all Christians.”

The evangelics are the lunatic fringe of Christianity, and their influence has undeniably lowered the quality and worsened the tone of politics in America since the 1980s.

REAL Christians, meanwhile, have practiced what they preached and shaken their heads in sorrow over what the evangelicals have done to (and in) Jesus’ name.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

RB — “Christians” and “evangelical neo-cons” are not synonymous. Sorry to break it to you. The former are fine, the latter have wreaked havoc on our country.

By Copyleft

January 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

RB: You’ll notice he specified evangelicals, not “all Christians.”

The evangelics are the lunatic fringe of Christianity, and their influence has undeniably lowered the quality and worsened the tone of politics in America since the 1980s.

REAL Christians, meanwhile, have practiced what they preached and shaken their heads in sorrow over what the evangelicals have done to (and in) Jesus’ name.

By Tireseus

January 30, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

First of all, there is no such animal as an “evangelical neo-con”. Most Evangelicals are traditional conservatives. The rest are social justice liberals of the Jimmy Carter kind.

Billy Graham is the nation’s most influential Evangelical. Has his influence “undeniably lowered the quality and worsened the tone of politics in America since the 1980s”?

How have Evangelicals “wreaked havoc”?

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Jan 30, 2008 3:47 PM

Edwards Fundraiser Is Now Backing Obama!

By Jennifer Siegel Wed. Jan 30, 2008 Article tools

Hours after former Senator John Edwards announced his exit from the presidential race, one of his most prominent Jewish fundraisers is backing Senator Barack Obama, the Forward has exclusively learned.

Speaking this morning, Fort Lauderdale lawyer Mitchell Berger said the decision had been an easy one.

“They are the two candidates who represent real change,” Berger said. “I will be supporting Barack Obama.”

In 2004, Berger was the national finance co-chairman of Senator Joseph Lieberman’s failed presidential bid. He said that he has heard from a number of fellow Edwards supporters by phone and email today and, after reeling off a half-dozen names of fellow donors who had joined the Obama campaign, predicted the “vast majority” of Edwards’s supporters would follow suit.

In an earlier conversation with the Forward, Berger said that his relationship remains cordial with Lieberman, who since the 2004 race has been reborn as an Independent, and is now backing Republican John McCain in the presidential contest.

Earlier this month, while Lieberman was in Florida stumping for McCain, he took time out to visit Berger.

“We shared a conversation, and I told him that I disagreed with what he did,” Berger told the Forward. “But we are 20-odd-year friends, and after all these years, Senator Lieberman has stood for good things on all these other issues.”

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 3:09 PM

{{{they have a monopoly on obsession with other people’s sex lives}}}

Who is it that seems to be obsessed with Larry Craig? That would be the left, correct? I thought you all thought his behavior was “normal” so why do you keep bashing him?

I also assume you support the ACLU’s defense of public bathroom stall sex, correct? Surely you aren’t a hypocrit who throws rocks at Christains for disagreeing with that behaviour, yet doesn’t defend someones right to have whatever kind of sex they want to in the stall next to your 5 year old child do you? I mean, if they both agree to it, so what if you’re 5 year old has to listen in while he “goes potty”. You can always just tell him its normal and encourage him to do the same with his friends, and his sister, uncle Jimmy, and the family pets. You agree with all those too, right? Sick liberals…

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 3:09 PM

{{{they have a monopoly on obsession with other people’s sex lives}}}

Who is it that seems to be obsessed with Larry Craig? That would be the left, correct? I thought you all thought his behavior was “normal” so why do you keep bashing him?

I also assume you support the ACLU’s defense of public bathroom stall sex, correct? Surely you aren’t a hypocrit who throws rocks at Christains for disagreeing with that behaviour, yet doesn’t defend someones right to have whatever kind of sex they want to in the stall next to your 5 year old child do you? I mean, if they both agree to it, so what if you’re 5 year old has to listen in while he “goes potty”. You can always just tell him its normal and encourage him to do the same with his friends, and his sister, uncle Jimmy, and the family pets. You agree with all those too, right? Sick liberals…

By Ernest T. Bass

January 30, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Who’s the zero that wrote this crap?

”{{{And yes the evangelical played a big role in the GOP the past 7 years, and that has helped destroy this country.}}} There you have it sports fans!! More tolerance from the liberal left.”

Hell yes we are tolerant of christofacists - we have not invaded their churchs yet now have we? That goober thinks we are not tolerant because we think the c-facists are wrong about everything and an insult to Jesus Christ! Try a dictionary you flaming fake.

Lordy what a pig!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Bosch, What’s your issue with Huckabee and women’s rights?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Bosch, What’s your issue with Huckabee and women’s rights?

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Tireseus,

“How have Evangelicals “wreaked havoc”?”

Instead of thinking along the lines of the Billy Graham types, think the Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts, and Jim Baker, Creflo Dollar, Bishop Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert types. Bingo. Havoc.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Creflo Dollar is not an evangelical

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it liberals, your idea of an acceptable Christian is the Clinton variety Christian who may go to church once or twice a year except during campaign season and never speaks of Jesus or God outside of the Church walls. Everybody else, those who attempt to maintain some moral foundation in this country, are what you call “evangelicals”. As long as we all sit in the corner, keep our mouths shut and allow you to do whatever the heck you want to do and never cast a vote against it, you’ll be happy. I’ve got some bad news for you. That’s not going to happen.

I wonder how much longer it will be before allowing gay sex in public restroom stalls is part of the Democratic party platform.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I don’t mean to be picky buddy but evangelicals aren’t defined as the preachers we don’t like.

Typically, within church culture, evangelicals are viewed as the churches or preachers that are conservative in their doctrine,i.e…”traditional” old school worship and beliefs. As oppose to someone like Creflo Dollar or Oral Roberts who interpret the bible to encourage more “modern” beliefs,i.e.. prosperity, divine healing,etc. Their usually referred to as charasmatic.

Just thought I could help.

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

RB;

What about the Klan? Werent they on a crusade also? What i am saying is that if you want to worship fine, but dont bring it in the political ring. I will give you an example, before Sept 11th, 2 girls from a church in Waco were taken hostage by the Taliban for trying to convert muslims to Christianity. When they returned they were treated like heros. So what would happen if a group from India arrived and decided to convert your neighborhood to their religion? They would be run out on a rail, but for some reasons Christians think they can go to any country and their religion be damned because if you arent a Christian you are worth spit…

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

RB,

Google it.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it liberals, your idea of an acceptable Christian is the Clinton variety Christian who may go to church once or twice a year except during campaign season and never speaks of Jesus or God outside of the Church walls. Everybody else, those who attempt to maintain some moral foundation in this country, are what you call “evangelicals”. As long as we all sit in the corner, keep our mouths shut and allow you to do whatever the heck you want to do and never cast a vote against it, you’ll be happy. I’ve got some bad news for you. That’s not going to happen.

I wonder how much longer it will be before allowing gay sex in public restroom stalls is part of the Democratic party platform.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

Oh sorry, yes, he’s simply a con man. My bad.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

RB — “Christians” and “evangelical neo-cons” are not synonymous. Sorry to break it to you. The former are fine, the latter have wreaked havoc on our country.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Elizabeth Moynihan Endorses Obama

Moynihan’s Widow Endorses Obama

By Sam Roberts new york

Elizabeth B. Moynihan, the widow of Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who shepherded Hillary Rodham Clinton as his successor in the United States Senate, has endorsed Barack Obama, Mrs. Clinton’s chief rival for the Democratic presidential nomination.

In a statement she sent to the Obama campaign, Mrs. Moynihan said her husband, who died in 2003, “loved the Senate and would have been unhappy when close Senate friends he respected were competing for the nomination, as is Hillary Clinton, who succeeded him and has become a very good Senator.”

Mrs. Moynihan added:

I know he would have become excited, as I have, to see Barack Obama rekindle hope in our young as he encourages them to participate in the political process, and I know Pat would approve, applaud and encourage me to join Caroline Kennedy in supporting Barack Obama’s candidacy for the Democratic nomination for president of the United States.

Mrs. Moynihan said she was inspired by an Op-Ed piece by Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of President John F. Kennedy, published on Sunday in The New York Times, and was also dismayed by the hostility Bill and Hillary Clinton have shown recently to Mr. Obama’s candidacy.

Mrs. Moynihan said she has never met Mr. Obama, but has followed his career, speeches and his performance in the presidential debates. She has never been particularly fond of Mrs. Clinton, according to recent biographies written about both the Moynihans and the Clintons.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

At it’s zenith the Christian Coalition had about a million members. You libs sure are a paranoid lot except when it comes to Islamic fascists that really are trying to convert, kill, or enslave you.

By Bosch

January 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

Sorry for the snide remark bud, I see what you mean. Yeah, that Oral Roberts - he cracks me up. And what a creative and imaginative way of cheating people, oh, I mean “getting people to the Lord” - send me $1 million dollars or I’ll die. Classic.

:-)

RB,

You might want to paddle back a bit on the gay sex scandal comments. It seems the Republicans have the Democrats beat (no pun intended) if you tally them up.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 4:31 PM |

I didn’t ask what google says about Huckabee and women’s rights, I asked you. What’s your issue?

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Check out my Obama posts.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 4:31 PM |

I didn’t ask what google says about Huckabee and women’s rights, I asked you. What’s your issue?

By Glenn

January 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

That damned Moynihan was a freaking NEOCON!

Booo!

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

RB — you may stop double-posting. You don’t start making twice as much sense, unfortunately.

We’re “obsessed” with Larry Craig because of his hypocrisy, not his sex. I still don’t understand — is the term “hypocrite” just not in your vocabulary?? It’s hypocritical to bash gays for political (and personal) gain, then turn around and have gay sex. It’s hypocritical to use “family values” for personal and political gain, then turn around and have mistresses. Is there a catch in your guys’ brains that does not allow you to see this simple problem? I could not care less who Craig has sex with or where, but I care a great deal if a politician says one thing and does the exact opposite. Now that he’s a private citizen, Craig can go have oral sex with horses for all I care.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 4:30 PM

Have you really not noticed all of the non Christian churches in this country? There are mosques in every city, you’ll find Buddist temples, pretty much everything. You don’t think the people in those places are reaching out to people around it and drawing them into their religion? What happens when the people from India knock on the door is the Christians inside say, “no thank you” vs. taking them hostage and cutting their heads off. Dimwit. Maybe the difference is, in this country, you don’t get the death penalty for sharing your faith with your neighbor like they do in all those places where they practice all those religions you welcome with open arms.

As I said before, in your simpleton little world, Christianity is the root of all that’s bad. Just admit you hate Christians and move on.

By getalife

January 30, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Iraq Conflict Has Killed A Million Iraqis: Survey

McInsane ♥ genocide.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 4:30 PM

Have you really not noticed all of the non Christian churches in this country? There are mosques in every city, you’ll find Buddist temples, pretty much everything. You don’t think the people in those places are reaching out to people around it and drawing them into their religion? What happens when the people from India knock on the door is the Christians inside say, “no thank you” vs. taking them hostage and cutting their heads off. Dimwit. Maybe the difference is, in this country, you don’t get the death penalty for sharing your faith with your neighbor like they do in all those places where they practice all those religions you welcome with open arms.

As I said before, in your simpleton little world, Christianity is the root of all that’s bad. Just admit you hate Christians and move on.

By Ernest T. Bass

January 30, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

RB is a just a private in the Christofacist army. Dragged any gays to death lately? Blown up any Federal buildings lately? Murdered an abortion doctors this week? Burned any books?

It’s okay private RB for you to be a christofacist just keep it to yourself.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Glad you’re here. I read a post by you from yesterday accusing me of wanking you. Why do you think its me doing that? I got wanked a couple of times last week the same sick a$$ way.

I criticized Rudy and Mitt Romney and the wanking started. I think its someone from the right on here.

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Yep RW, i have noticed those things. Another thing i notice is they dont try and get into bed with politicians. I also notice that in a majority of the cities in this country there are problems in the african american neighborhoods, yet i have yet to see a white evangelical taking his flock down there to try and combat crime, or help them get jobs. If they were as diligent about helping people in their own cities instead of raging against abortion all the time then we would have a better country. I dont hate Christians, i know many good one, i hate the ones who call themselves Christian when they are far from acting like a chrisitan…

By RE

January 30, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Andy,

You were saying something about the stock market and the rate cut earlier.

Way to go buddy, following your advice will make many billionaires into millionaires.

a 37 point fall after dropping a half is a problem. The big problem is that investors are slowly starting to realize that there just isn’t enough money out there to cover the default. Banks work on a 10-1 ratio system, meaning if they have 100k in deposits, they can write out 1 million in loans and take the difference out in bond and credit. Never been a problem until defaults started climbing, and the assets aren’t there to cover the debt. All about the housing, they will kill the dollar to save the banks, but inflation is not happening fast enough. the bond insurers are the ones getting hit now, they do not have the assets to cover the financial loses they insured, no one expected it to get this big.

Huge problems, bury some gold in the backyard, get a shotgun and some canned food. it is going to be a mess out there.

By John from Tampa, FLA

January 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

I think W should have taken his State of the Union speech, walked it to the toilet and flushed it down. I realize the symbolism would have been lost on alot of people but the rest of us could have filled them in. He tried this with the Constitution but he stopped up the potty. Dang, if this was sports we could buy out W’s contract and send him back to Texas.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Interesting analysis of RW’s darling Mittens and his campaign.. I do hope they’re right.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

{{{{{I also notice that in a majority of the cities in this country there are problems in the african american neighborhoods, yet i have yet to see a white evangelical taking his flock down there to try and combat crime, or help them get jobs}}}}}}

Wsfw,

That has got to be one of the most ignorant things I’ve read here. They don’t call a press conference when they go, but go they do and they do it for the right reason. To help a fellow human being in need with no regard for personal aggrandizement.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

By rushncap 4:47 PM

I’m fully aware of what a hypocrit is, rushncap, and I would fully support throwing Craig out of office, not for what he did, but for the specatcle he’s become. His actions don’t reflect the values of the party. However, I’m sick of the double standard. When William (90K in the freezer) Jefferson, Robert KKK Byrd, and Teddy (called my lawer before the police) Kennedy, Ray (Chocolate city) Nagin, et all get thrown out by your party, I’ll listen to your complaints about Craig. Trent Lott was forced to step down, Foley was tossed, but your garbage is still there. I’m tired of it.

And btw, the comments I’ve seen on here about Craig have not been about him being hypocritical, they’ve been about “wide stance”, “toe tapping”, etc, referencing him being gay. If you want to fault him for being a hypocrit, fine, I agree, but the gay comments make you a hypocrit.

By Glenn

January 30, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

When you Christophobes deploy the word Christofascist for shock effect, bear in mind that when you cross into the old tacky territory of Nazi metaphors, you’re not supposed to come off as a Brownshirt. Denouncing certain persons as animals both pestilent and deadly—-you know, that sort of thing. Bad form.

And by the way, wouldn’t it be a mite dangerous for Mr. Craig to submit to a horse for oral sex?

Oh, and this business of defending the Taliban from American proselytes, and resenting their homecoming after their deliverance from captivity, rape and death? Tough luck. This country privileges religious freedom, most especially the freedom to practice one’s religion, whether it be an evangelical one or not. It’s a cornerstone of the Republic and always will be. The country is at its best when it works to spread that freedom throughout the globe.

We were at our best when we Atlantans from across the political spectrum welcomed the Dalai Lama, the world leader of religious tolerance and ecumenism, to Emory, and there listened to him with great respect. Atheists are now moving to demand greater respect in this country and we should insist upon that equally.

Excuse me if this comes off as pontificating, but I happen to dig this country and my people came here a very long time ago, to this very state, after two generations of being hunted for their religious views. Their descendents fought, repeatedly, for these rights we enjoy, and I for one enjoy the hell out of them.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE January 30, 2008 5:01 PM The big problem is that investors are slowly starting to realize.}}}}

RE: That’s the same exact thing you said 3 years ago and we are still waiting with great anticipation.

What happened this afternoon is called “profit taking,” it is why the non whiners are so rich.

~~~~~

{{{{Democratic White House candidate Barack Obama on Wednesday said rival Hillary Rodham Clinton is too polarizing to win the presidency.}}}}

{{{{Obama depicted Clinton as a calculating, poll-tested divisive figure who will only inspire greater partisan divisions as she sides with Republicans on issues like trade, the role of lobbyists in politics and national security.}}}}

Uh, so what took him so long to figure this out?

A little slow on the uptake?

McBushie will make short work of this hollow little punk.

Although he’d be tougher than the Klanner would be.

By Devastator

January 30, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

duh,

She aint the only one:

During a taping of The Daily Show on April 24, 2007, host Jon Stewart asked McCain, “What do you want to start with, the bomb Iran song or the walk through the market in Baghdad?” McCain responded by saying,”I think maybe shopping in Baghdad … I had something picked out for you, too — a little IED to put on your desk.” On April 25, 2007, representative John Murtha demanded an apology from McCain on the floor of the House, where Murtha said that to make jokes about bringing IEDs back for comedians was unconscionable when so many soldiers are dying from IEDs in Iraq.

What an a$$.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

I fully support tossing Jefferson from office. And, again, if Kennedy made his bones at least in part as anti-DUI campaigner, I would be all for getting rid of him. And Nagin… wtf? Because he made a “chocolate city” comment? OK, if that’s one of the 4 worst Democrats out there, this party is a lot cleaner than I thought.

P.S. References to “wide stance” etc are humorous. It’s called sense of humor. Look it up. Just like we joke about cigars and Bill Clinton, though none of us think he should have been persecuted for that. Do you see anyone attacking gay Republicans just for being gay? No. Well, stupid maybe, but not gay. We attack putative “family values” warriors, many of whom turn out to be as “family values” as Paris Hilton. And even she is too classy to have public bathroom sex, as far as any of us know.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Jan 30, 2008 5:26 PM NY Post Endorses Obama!

POST ENDORSES BARACK OBAMA January 30, 2008 — Democrats in 22 states across America go to the polls next Tuesday to pick between two presidential prospects: Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

We urge them to choose Obama - an untried candidate, to be sure, but preferable to the junior senator from New York.

Obama represents a fresh start.

His opponent, and her husband, stand for déjà vu all over again - a return to the opportunistic, scandal-scarred, morally muddled years of the almost infinitely self-indulgent Clinton co-presidency.

Does America really want to go through all that once again?

It will - if Sen. Clinton becomes president.

That much has become painfully apparent.

Bill Clinton’s thuggishly self-centered campaign antics conjure so many bad, sad memories that it’s hard to know where to begin.

Suffice it to say that his Peck’s-Bad-Boy smirk - the Clinton trademark - wore thin a very long time ago.

Far more to the point, Sen. Clinton could have reined him in at any time. But she chose not to - which tells the nation all it needs to know about what a Clinton II presidency would be like.

Now, Obama is not without flaws.

For all his charisma and his eloquence, the rookie senator sorely lacks seasoning: Regarding national security, his worldview is beyond naive; America must defend itself against those sworn to destroy the nation.

His all-things-to-all-people approach to complicated domestic issues also arouses scant confidence. “Change!” for the sake of change does not a credible campaign platform make. But he remains a highly intelligent man, with a strong record as a conciliator.

And, again, he is not Team Clinton.

That counts for a very great deal.

A return to Sen. Clinton’s cattle-futures deal, Travelgate, Whitewater, Filegate, the Lincoln Bedroom Fire Sale, Pardongate - and the inevitable replay of the Monica Mess?

No, thank you.

And don’t forget the Clintons’ trademark political cynicism. How else to explain Sen. Clinton’s oft-contradictory policy stands: She voted for the war in Iraq, but now says it was a bad idea. She’d end it yesterday - but refuses to say how.

It’s called “triangulation” - the Clintonian tactic by which the ends are played against the midd

By RE

January 30, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Andy,

What rock have you been hiding under for the past 3 years?

Housing market has collapsed, builders are having big problems, many are going out of business, Lenders and realtors are going out of business left and right. Ancillary businesses that depend on home value increases and home eq loans such remodelors and landscapers are in the toilet, along with the suppliers.

Banks are failing, bond insurers are being downgraded, and the oldest financial institutions in the US are begging China and Dubai for cash.

How is it you are this stupid day in and day out, shouldn’t you at least learn something by accident?

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Devastator January 30, 2008 5:23 PM duh, She aint the only one: During a taping of The Daily Show on April 24, 2007, host Jon Stewart asked McCain, “What do you want to start with, the bomb Iran song or the walk through the market in Baghdad?” McCain responded by saying,”I think maybe shopping in Baghdad … I had something picked out for you, too — a little IED to put on your desk.”}}}}

Dimwistator: Why are quibbling with me over McBushie?

What, pray tell, would make you believe I am one of his toadies?

I merely pointed out that he has more mental abilities than Snowflake does, a point that no one of any seriousness can argue.

Run along, mouth breather.

Cheney 08.

By Political Foreskin

January 30, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Look, it’s time we libs fessed up that we support al queda because they have a gay men’s choir called al kaka. If west point gets a gay men’s choir, then maybe we switch back to the usa, okay?

morons

By Devastator

January 30, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

duh,

You’re picking with the wrong fella boy!

You called Obama a punk and now snowflake!

You get those for free.

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE January 30, 2008 5:30 PM Banks are failing, bond insurers are being downgraded, and the oldest financial institutions in the US are begging China and Dubai for cash.}}}}

RE: So all these bankers, bond insurers and landscapers heard you whining but still chose not to diversify like I did?

But I’m the stupid one, hahaha.

Get real, my man.

When I let out the Bwa the Dow was at plus 199 for the day and I had just sold for a 2.68% profit.

Not bad for a day’s work.

Excuse me if I don’t join in your little crying jag.

By W stands for worst

January 30, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

RB,

Thanks for confirming what i was saying about evangelicals. Your post do more than anything i can write. Loser

By @@

January 30, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

(((Run awayyyyyyyyyyy, @@, run awayyyyyyyy! You have perfected that maneuver.)))

How silly and childish you continue to be rushncap.

I wasn’t running awayyyyyyy, I was running towards a four-mile goal I’ve set for myself. Everyday for the last seven years, I do four miles. Today I was invited to play frisbee (some kind of golf-style objective with a disk) with a couple of guys. I did…I suck at frisbee.

Now you can attack me cause I SUCK AT FRISBEE. Wouldn’t wanna leave you wanting….

A lot of attacks on Christianity I see. Those who do should keep in mind that you attack a diverse group all cultures and ethnicities. I guess it’s because they’re not like all of YOU?

Bosch:

There are no “scriptures” at Stratfor. It is strictly geopolitical strategies. All articles focus on other countries…occasionally the U.S. and how their decisions can impact security and economies across the globe. It’s a chain reaction Bosch and whether Ron Paul likes it or not, we’re part of that chain.

Rarely does it address our domestic politics which is why I enjoy it.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

By Ernest T. Bass 4:55 PM

{{{RB is a just a private in the Christofacist army. Dragged any gays to death lately? Blown up any Federal buildings lately? Murdered an abortion doctors this week? Burned any books? }}}

Hey dimwit, Christians don’t support these nut cases. The people who committed these crimes were tried and found guilty and the Christian community applauds that. Wake up, moron. You’re living in a fantasy world.

Based on the stupid logic from your post, should we all assume you’re OK with sexual predators seducing your kids?

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Jan 30, 2008 5:40 PM Alma Rangel (Yes, Charlie’s wife) Supports Obama

At least someone in their household has good common sense! Thank You Mrs. Rangel!

On Michelle Obama’s Guest List: Alma Rangel

By Sewell Chan new york

Updated, 5:10 p.m. | Michelle Obama spoke this afternoon at a fund-raising lunch on the Upper East Side for her husband’s presidential campaign, and one of the more prominent people present was Alma Rangel, the wife of Representative Charles B. Rangel, according to a person familiar with the guest list for the event. Mr. Rangel has been a leading supporter of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, so his wife’s attendance at a fund-raiser for Senator Barack Obama, Mrs. Clinton’s chief rival, seems noteworthy.

Other guests at the Obama fund-raiser included Victoria Kennedy, the wife of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the powerful Massachusetts Democrat who endorsed Mr. Obama on Monday; John W. Rogers Jr., a Chicago mutual fund executive who has been one of Mr. Obama’s top fund-raisers; Valerie Jarrett, a political fund-raiser and family friend of the Obamas; Andrea E. Bernstein, the wife of Tom A. Bernstein, the president and founder of Chelsea Piers; Susan Solomon, the wife of Peter J. Solomon, the founder and chairman of an investment banking firm that bears his name; and Patricia Blanchet, a Haitian-born artist and the widow of the “60 Minutes” correspondent Ed Bradley, who died in 2006.

Guests were asked to contribute up to $2,300 for Mr. Obama’s campaign. The fund-raiser was held at the home of Peter and Patricia Findlay, who run the Findlay Gallery, which specializes in 19th and 20th century European art.

Mr. Rangel, elected in 1970, is the dean of Harlem politics and the powerful chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. He has urged other local politicians to support Mrs. Clinton, the junior senator from New York, no matter what happens. To be sure, spouses often support different candidates. But this is not the first time members of the Rangel family have expressed fondness for Mr. Obama.

Last January, Mr. Rangel told reporters that he had urged Mr. Obama to pursue the presidency. “I told him if he didn’t run, he’d regret it, and that he’s a young man and he ought to test the waters,” Mr. Rangel told The New York Times at the time.

Elbert Garcia, Mr. Rangel’s press secretary in New York, said in a brief phone interview that he was not aware of Mrs. Rangel’s

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

No, @@, I don’t care that you suck at frisbee. It’s the fact that you suck at so many other things, including, it seems, life in general, that I do mind quite a bit more.

And, of course, you’re lying again (you suck at that too): I never attacked Christianity. Oh well…

By Paul

January 30, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

You can get free articles by signing up at stratfor.com. Highly recommended. Can take a while to get used to the style, or who the subjects are - but it’ll be well worth your time. Good for critical thinking skills, seeing interrelationships and a strategic (grand scheme) view of things.

@@

Losing was good the first day. Lull them into a false sense of accomplishment. Now invite them on your run. Keep pace with’em and breathe hard. Then the last 440 blow their doors off. Keeps’em humble.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Who’s the front runner?

Current delegate count: Obama-63, Clinton-48

Obama in ‘08.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 5:48 PM

As I said WSFW, you are a Christian hating liberal who won’t be happy until Christians who speak up for themselves are confined to the closets and cellars like the jews in Germany were. You can deny that if you wish, but your comments here tell the story.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Glad you’re here:

What conclusion would you draw from my 4:06,4:36,5:29,and 6:11?

Would you say that it is safe to predict the Dem nominee for 2008?

By mm

January 30, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Warmonging wingnuts,

Your so called 2 best candidates have dropped out of the race.

You long ago dropped out of the human race.

Your hate and bigotry will no longer be tolerated.

You reap what you sow.

The stench of the GOP carcass is overwhelming.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 30, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 4:58 PM |

BTW, dimwit, my church’s youth group spent the 3 day MLK weekend in downtown atlanta doing sevice projects. I guess that didn’t make the moveon.org headlines did it?

You have absolutely no clue what’s going on in churches in this country beyond what you see in the headlines of media outlets that hate Christians as much as you do. Maybe you should stop in some time and see whats really going on there before you keep throwing rocks at Christians.

By Devastator

January 30, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

RW,

How dare you post an unsubsantiated post! If there was validity to that foolishness, the so called staffer would have ID’d themselves! Speculation and not a bit of evidence that those conversations took place with Obama.

You need to stop being prejudice against this man’s name and grow the hell up!

By Luckoduh

January 30, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

{{{{BRATTLEBORO, Vt. - A town petition making President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney subject to arrest for crimes against the Constitution has triggered a barrage of criticism from people who say residents are “wackjobs” and “nuts.”}}}}

mm: You from Vermont, perchance?

{{{{News of the measure made the rounds on the Internet, and soon people started calling and writing. The Brattleboro Area Chamber of Commerce got about 60 e-mails Monday, all of them negative, said Executive Director Jerry Goldberg.}}}}

Yeah, where the hell do these wormy code pinkos get off threatening Cheney?

WTF?

By Glenn

January 30, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Hey, great showing of hate and bigotry there, professedly intolerant mm!

RB from Gwinnett.

Why conceded that those people were Christians or acting in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ? Book burning? (Or was it flag burning?) How many professed “Christians” have murdered abortionists? That’s ludicrous! And when did McWhatsisname ever say he blew up Murra for the Nazarene? What sophomoric nonsense these young wack jobs come on here to have us validate!

By Paul

January 30, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse

Can one predict, in other but general terms, what patterns will be left in the tide by a receding tide? A piece of driftwood, a strand of kelp, washing up on the last surge changes the pattern.

Safe to predict? Only with a number of hedges and what-ifs. For so long there were so few one could view in the Democratic Party as contenders with a chance that the idea of Hillary was, to many, a forgone conclusion. Even then she continued to amass money and a formidable organization.

But one can’t play taxi for all the voters in all the primaries, as happened in NH. I do think her emphasis on criticizing anything Bush let people know what she didn’t like - but gave no clear indication of what she would be. Then along comes Obama - as with Hillary, rather short on some specifics, not unusual at this stage, but with an uplifting message. Or when there was criticism, with an insirational ending.

I think many Americans were tired of what they saw as dreariness under Carter. That was one of Reagan’s strengths - he appealed to the ideals of the American people. So now we have an environment where people, rightly or wrongly, feel a similar discontent. One of the main drummers of discontent has been Hillary - by that I mean much of the attack, speeches, interviews have focused on everything that is wrong. And has been. Unfortunately, many people can go back further than eight years and remember more turmoil.

Then comes a positive, inspirational message delivered by someone who in a very real sense epitomizes the American ideal of working towards a dream and succeeding. Momentum is a marvelous force. Normal waves are contained by the breakwater. But when the current builds and the waves crest higher and higher the once-strong breakwater is no longer adequate.

Will he succeed? There is still much to overcome. There are many who identify with Hillary’s gender, with her life-long involvement, with her survivor skills. There are also those who supported her as they saw her as the best chance to regain the White House.

Now it doesn’t seem as if she’s the only chance.

By @@

January 30, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

(((It’s the fact that you suck at so many other things, including, it seems, life in general, that I do mind quite a bit more.)))

rushncap, have we ever met face to face? You would know that I suck at life in general HOW exactly.

I have a job that allows me to make a difference in children’s lives.

I have a husband whom I adore and he likewise.

I have a daughter who’s moving up in her field of study.

Other than ^^^ that you know nothing about me and THAT which I have described is THE PERFECT LIFE.

You have your “comic books” and “cartoons” and their “characters”.

Great! Who could ask for anything more?

Me.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Demonstrator,

I trust you’ll be back in the morning to picket ITFS.

By Apocalypse

January 30, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Gee,thanks.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

@@, the lone fact that you need to prove to me how great your life supposedly is tells me volumes.

You’re an inveterate liar, and an exceedingly small-minded, spiteful mean little person. If that allows you to have a great life, fine. I eagerly await more desperate “proofs” how wonderful it is to be you.

By Paul

January 30, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse

You’re welcome.

I think-

By Devastator

January 30, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

RW,

Don’t know what ITFS is, but I am sick of you right wingers hiding behind your prejudices in the name of politics or patriotism.

No one is making fun of you because your mama named you with a -(the original).

By @@

January 30, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

For you to come in and tell me, without ever having met me, that my life in general sucks warranted some clarification from me, don’t you think?

Sorry you didn’t like it.

Mine is what some might call an average life. No fancy cars…no great wealth…no huge diamonds…no mink coats…no prime rib for dinner.

Just average and perfect. Wonderful family and friends. It has all the things that are important to me.

By RW-(the original)

January 30, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Some Florida exit poll information shows some interesting things. How hard was it for someone to change their registration in Florida? The rules say you must be reistered to vote 29 days before an election, but it’s not clear what the deadline is on changing your registration. No wonder the libs are dancing around declaring the game over.

Romney won pro-lifers.

Romney won the mainstream religious. (Huckabee won the very religious—less than one-fifth of the pool.)

Romney won the Protestants.

Romney tied Huckabee with Evangelicals.

Romney won the pro-GWB voters.

Romney is the primary second choice of Giuliani voters, Thompson voters … and McCain voters.

Romney won the immigration hard-liners.

Romney won the upper-middle class, earning between $100,000 and $200,000 annually.

Romney won the terrorism-oriented voters.

Romney won the self-identified conservatives and the self-identified very conservative.

Romney won the values-oriented voters.

Romney won the white voters.

Romney won the tax-cutting voters.

By rushncap

January 30, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Good for you, @@. I notice how you’re happy with external things. If I were you that’s what I’d focus on as well. I’d hate to live inside that head of yours. Ugh…

RW — good for Romney! He won everything… except that actual election. That’ll keep him nice and warm at night as he totals up his losses from a failed presidential bid. And I’m sure you’ll frame those statistics and cry yourself to sleep with them under your pillow for the next 4 years of a Democratic President.

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