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By Mike Luckovich | Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 07:41 PM

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By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Bushie “runs” the U.S. Economy?

I never knew that.

Dearest George W Bush:

I thank you from the very bottom of my heart, the years that you have been in the White House have been the most successful ones in my career. I have a new house, new car, a bunch of giant high definition LCD’s and my income has quadrupled. Granted, I was not stupid enough to sign up for an Adjustable Rate Mortgage nor did I sit around the last 7 years whining about how bad things were and not doing a damn thing to make my situation better, like all of the cry baby lib losers, who were apparently too ignorant to succeed in this fiscally beneficial environment, have done. I crank out the greenbacks and the libs whimper.

Thank You Very Much,

Luckoduh

P.S. Can you believe that all of these libs that have failed financially and only know how to whine about it are now wanting to run the whole country? Ah-hahahahaha, yeah, right.

$$$$$$

Guess who:

John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism and youth.

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{{{{So here we are back in the politics of the 1990s and the Clintons have not even gotten into a race with the diabolical Republicans. Imagine how overwrought that campaign might be. Can Obama, who calls himself a “transformational” candidate, preserve the Republic from yet another hysterical Clinton campaign or, even worse, another hysterical Clinton presidency? I think he can. In fact, if he and his advisers look back to the weeks before the Iowa primaries, they will see how that double-digit lead of Senator Clinton’s vanished.}}}}

Bwa.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 24, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Nice toon Mikey. I was thinking more along the lines of a train wreck, but then again, you always seem to have a flair for the dramatic.

Gee Duh, sorry I usurped you’re position yesterday of being the first blogger to post. You can have it back, the pressure of coming up daily with something thought-provoking and worth reading is just too much for me. I just don’t know how you do it.

By IN THE NEWS

January 24, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

as an afterthought

FairTax: Double Taxation, An Admission

By reebok

January 24, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

Hilarious cartoon. Thanks for the laugh this morning.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

$$$$With a worried nation edging toward financial panic and dragging down the world economy, the Democrats seem strangely preoccupied with petty “snarking.” A debate is supposed to be a discussion of policy, but this last one was nothing more than a blather of insults. It diminished both Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, while former Sen. John Edwards only emphasized his irrelevance with glancing blows at both contenders.-NY Observer$$$$

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$$$$On foreign policy in particular, Clinton’s presidency was an era of missed opportunities. In Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Rwanda and Kosovo, U.S. policy was marred by hesitation and lack of commitment. Despite impressive rhetoric on the emerging challenges posed by globalization, nuclear proliferation, WMD and the rise of transnational terrorism and nonstate actors, Clinton developed few innovative ways to address these challenges; his approach to conflict and crisis was piecemeal. His early defeat on gays in the military left him so scarred that he steered clear of the military for most of his presidency, passively letting uniformed personnel dictate the terms of too many foreign policy decisions and ignoring hard questions about how to reshape the military to face post-Cold War threats.-LA Times$$$$

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$$$$By early 2006, a time of vibrant economic growth, 56 percent of Republicans said the economy was excellent or good, while only 28 percent of independents and 23 percent of Democrats agreed…..There is a divergence here between Democrats’ and independents’ assessments of their personal economic condition, which have generally been positive, and their assessments of the economy as a whole. It’s hard to resist the conclusion that when Democrats—and, in 2004-2006, independents—were responding to questions about the condition of the economy, they were actually responding, “I am a Democrat,” or, more emphatically, “I hate George W. Bush.”$$$$

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

$$$$Third, we need to ignore the alarmist hysteria, calm down and appreciate that life is better than at any time in the last 5,000 years of civilization. People are living longer; we’re healthier; and millions of Americans have the opportunities to travel, communicate and avoid physical drudgery that were once reserved only for a tiny aristocracy. There is plenty of excess in modern American life that can be shed without real hardship.$$$$

By Lookout or Outward Look

January 24, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

A lot of reputable people think we’re headed for a recession. That may or may not be true. But headed for an epic meltdown that will make our way of life obsolete? On Wednesday, billionaire socialist George Soros penned a piece for London’s Financial Times suggesting the era of capitalist dominance is coming to a screeching halt: “The current crisis is the culmination of a superboom that has lasted for more than 60 years,” he declares.

Could he be right? Well, here’s Soros testifying to Congress in 1998, during the greatest economic boom in history: “The global capitalist system … is coming apart at the seams.”

Sorry, George. It wasn’t then, and it isn’t now. Yet Soros has made billions making financial bets against the West, mainly America, then bad-mouthing its economy for all to hear.

Those tax cuts will expire in less than three years, with no sure signs Congress and the White House will save the day when they do. The president has called making those tax cuts permanent “the most important economic priority for our country” and says Congress should do so as soon as a stimulus is enacted.

But pro-growth Republicans worry that efforts to keep the tax cuts are taking a back seat to the politically easier task of rebates. That’s why Congress’ 100-strong Republican Study Committee has stepped in with the Economic Growth Act of 2008.

The RSC seeks a permanent extension of the tax cuts. But its growth package would also provide some recuperative tonic for an economy that may be nearing the end of a great run.

Its proposals would:

• Allow immediate expensing or full deduction by businesses for the costs of assets, including buildings.

• Immediately cut the top corporate income tax rate from 35% to 25%, bringing us in line with the average of our EU competitors.

• Index capital gains taxes for inflation.

• Let corporations pay the 15% individual capital gains tax rate instead of 35%.

The Bush tax cuts remain indispensable. But the RSC plan recognizes it is producers, not consumers, that move the private sector.

By IN THE NEWS

January 24, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Off Topic but oh so typical

Perino Dismisses CPI Study: Truth On How We Sold The Iraq War Is Not ‘Worth Spending Time On’

Apparently neither was any serious planning for the invasion of the wrong country!

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Good morning!

Like the cartoon -

I’ve never thought it fair to blame one person (in this case, Bush, although I’d really like to) for the economy, but the policies Congress has put forth over the years, supported by this administration, well, that’s something to look at. Enron is a perfect example, at least to me, of how our economy works. Trickle down economics, on paper, seems to be okay, but the problem has always been it stops trickling long about the lower tier of the upper management.

When Bill Clinton left, there was a surplus, the budget was balanced - you can argue semantics all you want, but that’s how I see it.

The stock market doesn’t bother me so much because I’ve never had any money to invest - having three kids right off the bat when you get married - well, that’s always been my investment - then it was diapers and formula - now it’s gas money and $20 for this and $20 for that. Anyone with teenagers knows what I mean.

Another thing that has bothered me the past couple of days was a news story I read in the AJC about Sonny wanting a history museum to the tune of 25 million. We have a really lovely archives in Morrow, brand new facilty, well a few years old, but relatively new, and the Atlanta History Center, which again, a great facilty. Spend the 25 million on water problems, Sonny! Without water, Atlanta and the rest of Georgia will BECOME history!

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Dont buy into this dead cat bounce people. The plane in luckovich’s cartoon will also bounce a little.

How much longer till Al Queda nukes us? The surge sent them scurrying to all parts of the compass. We probably dont have five years till kaboom.

What is Bush doing to stop al queda from nuking us? He’s policing a sectarian feud in Baghdad.

Atlanta is the likely al queda target. Detonated on a plane. The CIA knows all of this, but Bush wont let them stop it. He has killed any initiative to stop alqueda that doesn’t have the word baghdad in it.

WHo is that lame duck president who didn’t really get elected, but got annointed holy president instead by the supreme court? (idontknow). You know, he mispronounces words like nuclear. (beatsme). “Attack Iraq”. Oh, come on, he said mission accomplished. (sorry, dontknow). “Attack Iraq”. Well, he diebolded his second term with dirty tricks that the authorites are still uncovering…(youlostme). “ATTACK IRAQ”.

“ATTACK IRAQ”

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 24, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Morning Bosch!

I hear you brother.

Out here in Gwinnett County we are getting a new ball team and sports venue! OH BOY! Just what we need!

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Let me clarify something real quick - I know the stock market affects the economy and drives nearly everything in this country, which does affect me, but considering I have no money invested in the stock market, I don’t panic as much as some would.

I personally think that if the news media would just shut up about the stock market, things would get better. The media is pretty much worthless now, in my opinion.

By Jesus

January 24, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

I’d be interested to see who owns the land around your new sports arena - any of Sonny’s friends? I wonder who might get the contracts to build? Any of Sonny’s friends?

Hmmmmmmm…….I wonder?

By Paul

January 24, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

ITN 9:27

The other day you dismissed the results of a report I cited from George Mason University as they receive financial support from what you deemed conservative donors.

Well, the Center for Public Integrity you cited is funded by Soros. Not exactly a moderate. Shall we dismiss their conclusions on the same basis?

The other posts - biggest difference of opinion among the experts seems to be how to get the money into the economy, quickly. Hillary’s plan takes way too long. Administration seems hung up on “return to those who paid taxes.” But this isn’t about a tax rebate - it’s to get the money into the economy. So I’ll go along with those who want to send more to mid-to-lower income households who didn’t pay taxes. They’ll spend the few hundred quickly.

Buy Danish,

Dems, in their campaign to cast off any responsibility for Iraq and portray themselves as innocents misled, were free and easy with the word “lie.” It’s like letting the genie out of the bottle - difficult to put back in or contain its effects.

Link: Liberal Radio Host Ed Schultz on MSNBC - Bill Clinton is Lying

Then again, Morris thinks Bill’s actions are part of a plan.

Link: Bill - keep the spotlight off Hillary

Slick, maybe. But fratricide’s ugly.

Bosch,

Maybe Sonny can ask Hillary for an earmark? I mean, Woodstock is kinda in the history league, right?

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Kevin,

OBL is a smart man. He knows you don’t have to blow things up to destroy something. All you have to do is stir the beehive so to speak.

Yes, he flew some planes into the WTC, which sparked a frenzy of paranoia and mania in this country. But he knows, this country can not be destroyed by brute force, for one thing, it’s too big, and the world would be against him instantly (just like on 9/11).

But look what’s happened since - I think OBL is a very smart man - Hitler was too - evil, yes, but very smart.

By IN THE NEWS

January 24, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Paul

Always glad to read your personal opinion.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Love this ‘toon, Lucko — Dubya the Repugs have been a walking disaster since 2003…

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Well, smarty pants Paul, Sonny can’t do that now, can he - because Hillary doesn’t work down here, now does she?

I thought that was stupid too (with Hillary). Earmarks have gotten evil, and in my opinion, really need some re-doing. Earmarks could be a good thing if put into the hands of honest people, who are doing good for the community - but yes, what a pipe dream that is, huh?

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 9:46 — but you must understand that “the stock market” is what the Repugs have always based their “strong economy” rhetoric on? They have no concept of how the real economy (jobs exported, poverty rising, etc.) affects Americans — to the Repugs, it’s all about how the investors in the stock markets are doing!

By RW-(the original)

January 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

ITFS,

Did you read that the CBO report you’re waving in Dana Perino’s face says we aren’t going into a recession and projects growth of 1.7% next year?

I guess not since you went right from that to links telling us how horrible the recession is.

I guess reading isn’t your strong suit.

Bosch,

The Dow went up 300 points yesterday and is up about 125 right now today.

Enron was running their schemes while the previous administration was in office and was prosecuted by the current administration.

Mrs. G,

What’s wrong with bringing the jobs and revenue, that having the Braves AAA affiliate supply, to Gwinnett County?

By Paul

January 24, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

He can always ask. I mean, Hillary has “experience” with “historical” earmarks, right?

By RW-(the original)

January 24, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Goldielox,

Obama is running a commercial right now that says he’s going to end tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas.

Now that’s somebody that either doesn’t understand the economy or at least knows that the dumb masses don’t.

High Corporate tax rates in the US are one of the biggest contributers to companies outsourcing jobs or outright moving from this country.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

RW

So much wrong with your post last night (5:45) and so little time to respond! But I’ll take a shot.

First empty out the bottom drawer of your desk. Get rid of the 4 or 5 year old RNC “Smear of the Day” calendar. The idea is to be AHEAD of the curve.

Lois Romano and Dale Russakoff , Washington Post Staff Writers had a different take on Wednesday, July 28, 2004; Page A21:

“The case of little Bailey Griffin, maimed at birth because an obstetrician waited too long to bring her into the world, was John Edwards’s last as a lawyer, and it crystallized major themes of his life and career.

When the Griffins sought out John Edwards in 1995, he was at the pinnacle of his profession and they were at the end of their rope. The 19-year-old mother and 25-year-old father — a chicken farmer in rural North Carolina — had exhausted their resources caring for the pale, fragile, brain-damaged baby they brought home from the hospital a year earlier. Bailey needed thousands of dollars of medicine a month.

Nearly blind, Bailey was unable to eat, sit up or talk. Ashea Griffin was on duty around the clock, feeding Bailey through a tube and suctioning saliva from her mouth so she could breathe. Ashea was relieved a few times a week by therapists that Medicaid paid for. Then one day, a therapist let slip that a note in Bailey’s hospital file suggested concern about malpractice.

CONTINUED

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

A most excellent letter to the editor from the Seattle Times about the current regime’s handling of our economic mess!! This succinctly sums up how gov’t and businesses worked together to gut oversight, enrich the rich and leave the mess for you and me!

You’ve got to love the current high-wire act of Ben Bernanke and the Fed as they navigate the free-market shamble created by the libertarian economic philosophy of former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and the Bush administration [“Fed’s remedy is no sure cure,” Business & Technology, Jan. 23].

We now have the largest Fed rate cut in 18 years at the same time that we’re experiencing the biggest inflationary spike in recent memory. Can you say stagflation? Sure you can.

It’s ironic that the economic meltdown is brought to you by the “daddy party,” the Republicans, who think they know how free enterprise works. But, just as in Iraq, their arrogance has been exceeded only by their incompetence as the worldwide market crash illustrates.

The “free enterprise” economics they preach is really big business free to privatize profits and socialize costs while offshoring their profits, along with our jobs.

Government watchdogs were turned into lap dogs and nowhere was that more evident than in the unregulated lending practices and freewheeling greed that led to the subprime-lending fiasco.

And now, thanks to the conservative Supreme Court, class-action lawsuits against those who aid corporate fraud are severely restricted. In conservo-nomics, business is freed from both regulatory restraint and legal accountability.

As the economy and markets were wracked a few years ago by the accounting games and corporate fraud of companies like Enron and WorldCom, someone posed the question, “Who will save capitalism from the capitalists?” Looks like no one in this administration found the answer. Probably didn’t even look.

— John Ariel Murphy, Seattle

Silly neo-cons!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 24, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

CONTINUED

The Griffins found their way to Edwards as had hundreds of other families. “Actually, we just heard he was one of the best around,” Ashea Griffin said. Edwards, then 42, had returned to his home state about 15 years earlier to practice law, rapidly becoming its premiere malpractice and personal injury lawyer through a series of landmark verdicts. According to North Carolina Lawyers Weekly, Edwards won more than $175 million in verdicts and settlements in 15 years. But he was not an easy villain for malpractice insurers and doctors. While they found plenty to criticize in what he cost them, few faulted his professionalism. “There were never ethical questions, never any dirty tricks,” said David Sousa, general counsel of Medical Mutual Insurance Co., the state’s largest malpractice insurer. “

Please re-read that last line. The whole piece is worth the read.

The Wall Street Journal (left wing rag!) in POLITICS & PEOPLE By ALBERT R. HUNT March 6, 2003 also has a different take in an article titled “The Bogus Tort-Reform Case”:

“There are, of course, abuses in the legal system, and yes, some changes are needed. But the White House egregiously distorts the case. An impressive six-week study by USA Today, published this week, found that while some doctors have been hit hard by rising malpractice premiums, most “are minimally affected.” Premiums aren’t rising any more rapidly than other health-care costs and, on average, physicians spend more on rent than malpractice insurance.”

I suggest reading that whole article as well.

CONTINUED

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 24, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

We could take a closer look at Dr. Craig VanDerVeer (seem to be a paid GOP attack doctor) and his connection to NC GOP Senator Burr. (Pro-escalation, anti-minimum wage and a winner of Citizens For Tax Justice “Eneemy of the Taaxpayer award)

We could talk about lawyers in general. (Karl “the cager” Rove, Alberto “ I can’t recall 173 times Gonzales or John “28 to 52 million dollar no bid contract” Ashcroft)

We could talk about the GOP culture of life. (Love ‘em from fertilization to crowning, then they’re on their own)

We could talk about seating only telepathic juries. (Case from mid 1990’s – report On CP cited dated 2003) But no. We have real issues to address.

But, bottom line, John Edwards is a honorable man.

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

RW,

Enron was running their scemes during many administrations, including Reagan who was president when Lay became CEO and Bush I. Who cares? Yes, they were prosecuted while Bush was in office, they weren’t prosecuted BY Bush himself though.

I could be wrong, but Ken Lay was one of, if not THE biggest donor for Bush II? Hmmmm.

I’m glad the stock market is going up. Yippy!

Personally, I think those who panic over the stock market are like women who weigh themselves three times a day and panic if they gain an ounce.

By LMAO

January 24, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

That same CBO said last summer that the deficit for 2008 would be $155 billion.

Only off by 200 billion dollars. LMAO!

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Like I said earlier, trickle down economics sounds great on paper, but the trickling always seems to dry up before it gets to the bottom.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 24, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Next Topic.

RW says,”What’s wrong with bringing the jobs and revenue, that having the Braves AAA affiliate supply, to Gwinnett County? “

Maybe nothing. Maybe everything.

Who’s to know?

It just doesn’t pass the smell test for me.

It’s a boatload of money, that may be better spent elsewhere.

[Braves-Gwinnett deal troubles some residents ](http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/01/16/braveslegal_0117.html0

I just one of the residents it troubles.

Oy! The Traffic!

By RW-(the original)

January 24, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Enron was in business during many administrations, but wasn’t running their accounting schemes until the 1990s. It all fell apart in late 2001 and if you choose to believe that a rogue prosecutor went after them while the evil Chimperor was plotting the world’s downfall it’s fine with me.

Mrs. G,

I guess you’re right. Edwards really is too irrelevant to spend any time looking into.

But, would an honorable man of the people shelter his millions in ambulance chasing bucks from Medicare taxes?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Hey Goldilox, Thanks for giving us the perfect description of an ambulance chaser. In all of that mess you posted, were you able to make the connection between the John Edwards of the world and astonomical healthcare costs? You, of all people who whines constantly about everybody having free healthcare, should be angry about what he and his cohorts have done to the system. Who do you think paid that $175MM? You did, dimwit.

You need to admit this is a nothing more than a money grab at deep pockets. Proof? How many dry cleaners did John Edwards sue for ruining shirts? Happens every day, but, there’s no money in it.

I love this one… {{{on average, physicians spend more on rent than malpractice insurance.”}}}

Take a look at your own finances for a minute and try thinking. Let’s say your mortgage is $1,000/mo. or $12K per year. Resonable average. The insurance on that same house would be about $650/yr. What would happen to your personal finances if your insurance rate were now $12,000/yr instead of $650? Surely you have an extra $11,350 laying around the house you don’t need, right? And at those rates, what percent of your after tax income is that? 25%? 20%? Your inability or unwillingness to think about what your party is really about is just aggravating as heck. Or maybe you just aren’t that bright.

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Cochino,

Excellent story. It shows how out of touch Republicans really are!

Thanks for posting!

BTW, if little Ricky Republican can’t take being mocked for publicly identifying himself as a Repub, maybe he should seek a fashion consultant! What a whiner!!

Still a good article, Cochino, even though you didn’t mean it to be supportive of our great, Democratic presidential candidates!!!

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

RW,

And if you choose to believe that Lay started his evil accounting schemes simply because Clinton became president, then that’s okay with me too.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Hey Goldilox, Thanks for giving us the perfect description of an ambulance chaser. In all of that mess you posted, were you able to make the connection between the John Edwards of the world and astonomical healthcare costs? You, of all people who whines constantly about everybody having free healthcare, should be angry about what he and his cohorts have done to the system. Who do you think paid that $175MM? You did, dimwit.

You need to admit this is a nothing more than a money grab at deep pockets. Proof? How many dry cleaners did John Edwards sue for ruining shirts? Happens every day, but, there’s no money in it.

I love this one… {{{on average, physicians spend more on rent than malpractice insurance.”}}}

Take a look at your own finances for a minute and try thinking. Let’s say your mortgage is $1,000/mo. or $12K per year. Resonable average. The insurance on that same house would be about $650/yr. What would happen to your personal finances if your insurance rate were now $12,000/yr instead of $650? Surely you have an extra $11,350 laying around the house you don’t need, right? And at those rates, what percent of your after tax income is that? 25%? 20%? Your inability or unwillingness to think about what your party is really about is just aggravating as heck. Or maybe you just aren’t that bright.

By Dubya

January 24, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

935 documented lies? That’s not even scratching the surface. Oliver Stone doing a movie on Bush-drunk? How delicious. God bless Murcuh. Allah Akbar!

By Paul

January 24, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla - RW-(the original)

Re. John Edwards - to me, seems his difficulty is his platform - two Americas, attacking high pay of CEOs, etc. etc.

Some will argue he worked for his money. Who doesn’t? But his compensation package (of which he would have received nothing if he hadn’t prevailed) is along the lines of: amount of settlement less trial costs (expert witnesses, research assistants, etc) then take half.

True, the plaintiffs had millions. In cases wherein the child, whose situation was attributed to malpractice or not, would have a lousy life, as would the parents.

So it seems to me, by Edwards criteria, he should have been championing the cause of the child and kept a minimal amount. If a CEO can lead a company employing thousands of people and getting millions in profits, yet earns only a small percentage of those profits each year, maybe Edwards should take not half, but a small, small percentage.

He’d still have hundreds of thousands. Per case. And the victim would have more. Not the same as Edwards. More.

Of course, then he availed himself of legal tax dodges to avoid nearly a million is Social Security taxes. But legal doesn’t mean it’s right. He’s on a moral platform, remember?

Lotsa difficulties when you campaign on exploitation, “fairness” and say what your’re going to do. After what you’ve done is there for all to see.

Never too late to get religion, I suppose.

By luckovichisaheadcase

January 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

How many of you are chronically unemployed? Did you know that under George W. Bush (NOT BILLARY) that we have had the longest period of job GROWTH in the history of this country. Yes we are having some trouble in the financial markets, mostly owing to rule which were forced upon lending institutions which encouraged that kind of marginal loans that are causing the problems. This is all well documented, but little discussed in a bias press which only seeks to undermine the economy for political reasons. You folks will also complain vociferously about deficit spending until the Demagogues (oops Democrats) are the ones doing it, but any kind of ‘stimulus’ package usually kicks in too late and is just a gimmick anyway. Tax cuts all around help because they are long term. Giveaways are just welfare because in the end the taxpayers just have to pay for them.

The Dims (not a typo) will end up losing this election because in the end the American people will again realize that welfare state socialism just does not work.

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

RW,

Sorry, hit the post button too soon. My point about Enron wasn’t about what happened when, it’s about simply that it happened, and it’s a perfect example, at least to me, of how our economy works - which has been lately, of the trickle down variety, and it doesn’t work out so well.

I don’t care if who was president when that was happening.

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

Can you tell me, because I’m not real sure about this, but WHAT TYPE OF JOBS have been growing? Burger flippers? Because I sure do see alot more fat a* people than I did a few years back.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

RW

I’m done for the day fighting smears. What with the cost of groceries this morning, I haven’t the stomach for it.

Perhaps the GOP candidates could use you for support.

You do support them don’t you?

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Dear George Bush,

This isn’t over.

be seeing you in 09,

analchord

PS: we played little league together on opposing teams in Waco in the fifties. You beaned my azz. I haven’t forgotten. I scored, by the way, after stealing second and third because you’re so easy to read.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

By luckovichisaheadcase 10:49 AM |

Question for you.

Do you know if the job growth figures include the illegal immigrants here working? Specifically, do the job growth numbers include the average american who now has a job AND the millions of undocumented people who are working under the radar? Has the economy grown so much it’s taken in average Joe and Jose’?

I haven’t seen that issue discussed and I’m curious.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

By luckovichisaheadcase 10:49 AM |

Question for you.

Do you know if the job growth figures include the illegal immigrants here working? Specifically, do the job growth numbers include the average american who now has a job AND the millions of undocumented people who are working under the radar? Has the economy grown so much it’s taken in average Joe and Jose’?

I haven’t seen that issue discussed and I’m curious.

By luckovichisaheadcase

January 24, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

RW - you make a very good point.

Bosch - the fact is that high paying jobs in every sector have increased over the last six years and the evidence is not only in facts which you could easily find if you just tried, but also in the fact that RW just mentioned: We would not have so many coming illegally to this country and finding work if jobs were not going begging. That is just a fact.

The real fact is that you will never admit that times are good under a Republican, even though times are better relative to almost any other time in the history of this planet! I cannot think of another time in which I would rather be alive.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

I think instead of giving tax breaks to those corporations who export jobs overseas, we should be giving tax breaks to companies that keep the jobs in America! Those are the companies that need the tax breaks, you silly Repug trolls!

By getalife

January 24, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

If Satan ran for the gop, RW and the gop would vote for him for the Supreme Court nominees.

They should put abortion and the other non issues the gop care about on the ballot, let the people vote and be done with it.

Then the gop might vote for the best candidate for our country. Hell, they might even care about our country.

Anyoo, how many times will the devil lie in the State of the Union? If it were a drinking game to drink a shot everytime he lies, I would be passed out after 5 minutes.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 10:48 — I think that Edwards’ message is not going over well with Dem voters this time around because he’s sounding more and more like Ralph Nader… He decided to change his message from “positive-ness” in ‘04, to “take down the corporations” this campaign season, and it’s obviously not the message that the majority of Dem voters want to put out there on our November ticket!

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Let us watch with awe and wonder as the democrat party tears itself limb from limb:

$$$$Sen. Hillary Rodham Klinton’s presidential campaign aired a new radio ad here Wednesday that repeated a discredited charge against Sen. Barack Obama, in what some Democrats said is part of an increasing pattern of hardball politics by her and former president Bill Klinton.$$$$

$$$$Responding to the negative ad, Dick Harpootlian, a former chairman of the Democratic Party in South Carolina, accused the Klintons of using the “politics of deception,” and he compared the former president to the late Lee Atwater, an operative from South Carolina who was known for his tough tactics.$$$$

$$$$In Washington, Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), who endorsed Obama last week, castigated the former president for what he called his “glib cheap shots” at Obama, saying both sides should settle down but placing the blame predominantly on Klinton. “That’s beneath the dignity of a former president,” Leahy told reporters, adding: “He is not helping anyone, and certainly not helping the Democratic Party.”$$$$

$$$$A few prominent Democrats, including Sen. Swimmer M. Kennedy (Mass.) and Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), have spoken to the former president about the force of his Obama critiques. There is some fear within the party that if Obama becomes the nominee, he could emerge personally battered and politically compromised. And there is concern that a Klinton victory could come at a cost — particularly a loss of black voters, who could blame her for Obama’s defeat and stay home in November.$$$$

$$$$”I’m not underestimating that this could be divisive, but I think both camps know how important this is, that it doesn’t go beyond repair,” said Sen. Mary Landrieu (La.), the most vulnerable Democrat up for reelection next year, who is unaligned.$$$$

It’s a “vast left wing conspiracy.”

Bwa.

By luckovichisaheadcase

January 24, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Goldie - Tax breaks are not going to companies who are sending jobs overseas, that is a myth. In fact, the government should not even be in the business of favoring one business over another. That is protectionism and is completely counterproductive in the long run because it stifles competition. However, the fact is, jobs have been outsourced for a myriad of reasons including but not limited to high taxes on business at every level. Businesses are in business to make a profit. Without a profit, they will go out of business. That is just a fact. High taxes are a COST of doing business. Businesses who are taxed must pass those expenses on to the consumer. Therefore, if you tax business heavily, then the prices of goods and services go up and they must find ways of cutting costs, such as moving overseas.

Exorbatant labor costs are another factor. Labor unions demanding and receiving high wages caused an almost total collapse of the domestic shoe industry. The products were too expensive and often not up to par. The only solution was to go off shore.

Sorry to destroy your socialist delusions with facts, but those are the facts m’am, just the facts m’am.

By Spike

January 24, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

How predictably great is the continuing news from Iraq and such?Fabulous. Just as Bushie and his fellow intellectuals predicted. And the new “surge” is working beautifully too. An entire country of multi-millions which has always been eager to embrace our definition of “democracy” has now realizes its dream. Eager to throw out its thousands of years of culture and axperiences and hatreds and religion. Forever obsessed with the concept of being “Americanized.” All it took was a handful of mighty heroes with guns and planes and bombs to intermingle with the average Iraqi citizen who rejoiced at their arrival and spread forth garlands of flowers. Iraq is fast becoming the envy of the civilized world. They are every bit as we are. Now they can act like us, be like us, and spread their lives of paradise throughout neighboring countries, just as we now witness. It works its way through the rest of the Middle East. Never has America stood taller. Never have we had more cause to fill our hearts with pride. We must thank GOD for the wisdom he has thrust upon our great President and those who have had the intelligence, forsight, patriotism, courage, wisdom, raw guts and bravery, good, decent Christie family values needed to support this extraordinary Leader and Decider. He and they are what America is all about these days. These are well-balanced, loving people who are deeply steeped in everything that is good and honest and righteous in the world. God Bless America!!!

By getalife

January 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

I think I will spend my rebate check to stimulate the drug companies.

Prescribed opiates and weed.

“They tried to make me go to rehab, I said no, no, no”

By Paul

January 24, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Goldie 11:43

Especially when lots of voters who have jobs with those corporations, or who work for subcontractors for those corporations, don’t want to see anything done that could jeopardize their jobs!

Whether it’s real fear with a basis in fact or not, it’s perception, perception, perception.

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Great news: A liberal organization has raised $8.5 million to run ads debunking Bush regime “successes” so as to assure his legacy as the worst president of these United States in our country’s history.

Great folks!! Donate early and often!!

http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/AntiBushcampaignplanned01242008.html

Let’s “Swift-Boat” the Chimperor just like his junta tried to do to Kerry and Murtha!!

Scheistkopf Bush!!!

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Hey getalife,

I’ll be there with ya, brother!!

I beleive weed will be legalized in 2009 or 2010, once we get rid of the RWs and @@s of the world.

By Buy Danish

January 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Do you honestly think that everyone who writes for the WSJ is a right winger? Kinda like Alan Colmes at Fox?

Here’s a clue for you about Albert R. Hunt - he’s married to CNN’s Judy Woodruff.

And speaking of Edwards there’s more on him here.. I think you’ll be pleased to see that I have such nice things to say about him.

By MomCat

January 24, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original) January 24, 2008 10:15 AM High Corporate tax rates in the US are one of the biggest contributers to companies outsourcing jobs or outright moving from this country

I’ve always been of the assumption companies incorporate in the state most advantageous to them, and moved the company to a country where they could utilize dirt cheap labor, and/or heaven forbid, child labor. Silly me……..

By Bosch January 24, 2008 10:53 AM |
Can you tell me, because I’m not real sure about this, but WHAT TYPE OF JOBS have been growing? Burger flippers?

Precisely. All one needs to do is check the labor department statistics. Those retail jobs continue to be in high demand. Personal and Laundry Services also shows real potential.

By getalife

January 24, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

TM,

We are in the prohibation phase like Alcohol.

Speaking of breaking the law, they are debating spying on Americans without a warrant on C Span 2.

It is hilarious watching the gop spew they will vote for immunity even though they broke the law.

Amazing, but a prime example of the gop trashing the Constitution again like it is no big deal. Hell, they might as well open up the prisons and let them out since they do not care about the rule of law.

Your Senator saxby is spewing now how he hates the Constitution and the rule of law.

How pathetic.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch — I remember reading back a few years ago that Dubya’s administration changed the status of fast-food workers as “manufacturing” jobs! What a bunch of idiots, those Repugs! They give tax breaks to companies who export jobs to China, and they re-classify burger-flippers as “manufacturing” jobs!

By @@

January 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

ml, it would appear as though your creative slump began with your “Give it a rest” cartoon and continued through to today’s.

I find it distasteful that you would use a commercial airliner to depict what you perceive as an attack on the World Trade…..errrr Market?

You’re sleeping alot aren’t you? Must be liberal depression. Understandable when you have to watch the dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I never doubted they would. It’s a constant with them.

But while you slept, you missed the feds pulling the nose up on Wall Street.

Cheer up…life doesn’t always have to suck.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

The Repugnant Party will need a few decades for “rebuilding” their message to America — right now, they stand for Big Government and Fiscal Irresponsibility… all of their leading candidates are still spouting off the need for “regime change” of foreign dictators and nation building, which requires more Big Gov’t and bigger and bigger deficit spending… they’re all losers in November!

By getalife

January 24, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Looks like Congress will approve round 2 of welfare to stimulate the failed economy.

I thought ya’ll were against welfare.

The good news is Iraqi welfare ends in a year.

By getalife

January 24, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

“Reid Challenges GOP to Filibuster Anti-Immunity Provision”

OMG, did President Clinton show em how to use a spine when he attacked corporate media?

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

Are you a statistician for the Dept. of Labor? Didn’t think so. Check those stats.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

-=-

Ok - Let me get this straight….\

We are using our taxpayer dollars to train not only the Iraqi’s how to be better soldiers and fighters, but now the Pakistani’s as well.

So now tell me what happens when this nuclear armed country decides that they and we of the good ol’ USA are no longer friends? We will not only face a nuclear armed enemy, but an enemy that is well trained in ground combat by our own military (budgeted from our own taxes). is this wise?

-=-

This boost to our economy proposed by Dubya’ and blessed by congress will not work! Lets be clear — it will certainly generate some wonderful PR for the politico campaigners, and it will give most all of us some fleeting mad-money to blow, but it will do absolutly nothing to help the economy of the USA.

Why do I say this?

Well when you take into account that approximately 75% of all products sold in stores in the USA are imported goods, then you must realize that approximately 60% of this money will be sent overseas. This means that in the long run we will not be doing much for our economy, but we will most certainly stimulate economies in other countries…

-=-

tax breaks for corporations, are only one benefit. That would be hard to change and be fair to all corporations. However there are other ways. For starters, any corporation who has moved their corporate headquarters offshore/overseas should be considered a foreign based company, and it should be illegal to accept any money from lobbyist on their behalf as you are accepting money from a foreign entity.

Ok — it’s an idea…

Cheers..

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 12:15 PM

{{{Great news: A liberal organization has raised $8.5 million to run ads debunking Bush regime “successes” so as to assure his legacy as the worst president of these United States in our country’s history.}}}

Gee, TM, how many poor children’s healthcare would $8.5MM buy? Are you really concerned about the children, or is the legacy of W more important to you? You b*** whine and moan about money going to Iraq instead of to the poor children, but when it comes to YOU spending YOUR money, you think disgracing a presidents legacy is more important? Pathetic!!! Be honest (or TRUTHful), things like those poor kids are only important to spend other people’s money on, aren’t they?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

{{{They give tax breaks to companies who export jobs to China,}}}

Give examples, please.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

{{{They give tax breaks to companies who export jobs to China,}}}

Give examples, please.

By B.P.O.E.

January 24, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

(((((Thousands upon thousands of delirious Chinese citizens paraded in the streets of Beijing when word spread that the American government agreed to the economic stimulus plan being debated in the US. “Not only do we get to finance billions upon billions in additional American debt, we make everything they are going to buy,” screamed one happy Chinese businessman fighting to be heard through the deafening sound of celebratory fireworks going off around him.)))))

By getalife

January 24, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

“McCain is Bush on steroids.” — Pat Buchanan

Ouch.

By Apocalypse

January 24, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

From The Associated Press:

“Fact Check: Obama’s ‘Present’ Votes”

Barack Obama’s rivals in the Democratic presidential race contend he sometimes voted ”present” on tough issues rather than take a firm stand.

…THE FACTS: Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted ”present” 129 times. That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast…

Illinois legislators often vote ”present” and for a wide variety of reasons. Sometimes blocs of lawmakers do it as a protest in some dispute over rules and procedures. Obama was often joined in his ”present” votes by 10 or 20 other senators.

In other cases, lawmakers do it to signal objections to the details of a measure that they support in principle. They also use ”present” votes as strategic moves to defeat legislation… Clinton highlights several of Obama’s ”present” votes that she considers questionable.

Several involve abortion — a ban on certain late-pregnancy abortions, a requirement that a minor’s parents be notified and restrictions on a type of abortion where the fetus sometimes survives for short periods.

”A woman’s right to choose … demands a leader who will stand up and protect it,” said one Clinton campaign mailer.

But the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council says Obama’s ”present” votes were actually part of a careful strategy to prevent those restrictions from passing.

President Pam Sutherland said the group feared several senators were going to vote ”yes” on the legislation because of attacks from Republicans over their past opposition. Sutherland says she approached Obama and convinced him to vote ”present” so that the wavering senators would do the same. For their purposes, a ”present” was as good as an outright ”no” because it kept the bills from reaching the majority needed to pass.

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

RW in Gwinnett,

Like you care about poor, latino children…or black…or white…or children in general!!

You are disingenuous at the least. Despicable at the most!!

You care about you and your $$$$, as do all real Repugs, hence the “Unfair Tax” lie seen on grumpy, white men’s pick-ups and gas-guzzling SUVs.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Right-Wingnut Trolls — plenty of examples of the Repugs favoring the exporting of jobs by offering tax breaks… you really should educate yourselves! But then again, if you did that, you wouldn’t be the trolls who post here every day, now would ya???

In a recent interview with the The Cincinnati Enquirer, Bush Treasury Secretary John Snow praised the exporting of U.S. jobs as beneficial for the U.S. economy and gave a slap in the face to U.S. workers: “You can outsource a lot of activities and get them done just as well at a lower cost,” he said.

“A little education goes a long way to a better life.”— Goldie, 2008

By IN THE NEWS

January 24, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Don’t have time myself….

research this

Unrepatriated earnings

A US policy set during the establishment of the corporate tax structure in the early 1900s, in which earnings of an overseas subsidiary is claimed to be invested overseas, thereby reducing the parent company’s US tax liability on those earnings.

this is the basic tax break for outsourcing

By IN THE NEWS

January 24, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

also look at Kevin Hassett American Enterprise Institute

conservative who’s written on subject

By Paul

January 24, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse 1:15

So, either Hillary hears something and repeats it without fully understanding it, just to score “points” - or she fully knows the full story, but still repeats the surface information , knowing it gives a false impression, in order to score “points.”

As much as I dislike the way the word “lie” has been bandied about, if part of the definition includes intent, and if the intent is to mislead…

By N-GA

January 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Paul 1:39

…..Amen

By getalife

January 24, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

935.

By Apocalypse

January 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You’re right sir.

I believe Obama is going to pull it off inspite of these evil and twisted attempts by the Clintons to get back in the White House.

By Ralph

January 24, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Oh God! My heart pumps p—-! My new tax rebate! Thank God and Bushie, I can now retire, subscribe to some Patriot magazines, rest easy knowing our economy is fixed, and that we’ve cleverly borrowed the money for it all from…China. Praise the Lord!!

By Paul

January 24, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

N-GA

How was the soiree? Rib roast turn out to your satisfaction? What did you think of the wine comparison?

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Ralph,

You just brought up a good point - since our country is in the hole, by how much, what line item are these “rebates” coming from?

Paul,

Just to be a smart a*, I was going to ask N-GA how his saffron mayonnaise was. Oh, I’m just kidding, I know the difference.

I have some saffron that I’m too afraid to use, because I think I’ll ruin the dish, and then damn, there goes the saffron.

By getalife

January 24, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

After the Obamaniac called President Clinton a Lee Atwater hit man, the President took the high road,showed the Dems how to use a spine and bashed corporate media.

Shame on Obama for using rove tactics.

How pathetic.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Bushie, eh?

$$$$Congressional leaders announced a deal with the White House Thursday on an economic stimulus package that would give most tax filers refunds of $600 to $1,200, and more if they have children.$$$$

$$$$House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Congress would act on the agreement—hammered out in a week of intense negotiations with Republican Leader John A. Boehner and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson—”at the earliest date, so that those rebate checks will be in the mail.”$$$$

They even stuck money in there for you lib losers:

$$$$That includes $28 billion in checks to 35 million working families who wouldn’t have been helped by Bush’s original proposal, the analysis estimated.$$$$

How about that, do no work, pay no taxes, the pinkos still shower “Chinese” money on you.

And blame Bushie for it.

That’s not too pathological.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

-=-

Isn’t it amazing how many Republicans want Obama to win the Democratic position? Guess their holding that Muslim card up their sleeve for the Presidential election….

-

Here’s a good reason not to build/rebuild in New Orleans.. Or Jeckyl Island, or Savanna for that matter..

You think our government and national corporate and industry leaders would be concerned, but nahh — they are too busy denying pollution exist so they can make more money.

Cheers…

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Oh, and by the way, N-GA - I read your comment about your dad and his cancer treatments, and I’m glad he’s done with his ordeal. It’s a real life changer when the roles are switched.

Seriously, I’m just kidding about the mayonnaise thing.

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

I wonder if G-man will drop out if he doesn’t win Florida. It seems he was kind of banking on that.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 1:15 PM |

So, TM, I ripped your sorry a@@ with your own sorry rhetoric, so you call me names. Typical liberal. You don’t give a flying crap about poor kids healthcare unless evil rich white business owners are writing the checks for them. Racist, class envy clown.

By Bosch

January 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Amy Winehouse is in rehab - I guess she finally said, “yes, yes, yes.”

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 1:15 PM |

So, TM, I ripped your sorry a@@ with your own sorry rhetoric, so you call me names. Typical liberal. You don’t give a flying crap about poor kids healthcare unless evil rich white business owners are writing the checks for them. Racist, class envy clown.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

$$$$Bitter, dangerous cold has descended on the Upper Midwest for the second time in less than a week, with the air temperatures falling to 27 below zero in some parts of Wisconsin and 30 below in Minnesota.$$$$

$$$$In Chicago early Wednesday morning, the temperature fell to -4 at O’Hare International Airport. It was slightly warmer downtown at 2 degrees, but in west suburban Aurora, temperatures bottomed out at -11. But to make matters worse and more dangerous, a northwest wind of 13 mph sent wind chill factors plunging to -22 at O’Hare.$$$$

Brrrrrr, damn, it’s cold outside.

$$$$$

$$$$Having climate campaigner Al Gore round to your house is to open yourself to a self-flagellating guilt trip, Irish rock star Bono confessed Thursday.$$$$

$$$$”It’s like being with an Irish priest. You start to confess your sins,” he said. “Father Al, I am not just a noise polluter, I am a noise-polluting, diesel-soaking, gulfstream-flying rock star.$$$$

$$$$”I’m going to kick the habit. I’m trying father Al, but oil has been very good for me — those convoys of articulated lorries, petrochemical products, hair gel.”$$$$

“Now that we got that behind us, Mr. Gore, let’s go clamp down on all the poor common folk.”

“Let’s take my Jumbo Jet.”

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

By Ralph 2:04 PM

Hey Ralph, you don’t have to cash the check. If you’re so concerned about the debt burden it will place on your grandchildren, don’t cash it. There’s nobody watching, and nobody has to know. Do what you think is best with it.

Anybody want to be he cashes it the day he gets it?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

By Ralph 2:04 PM

Hey Ralph, you don’t have to cash the check. If you’re so concerned about the debt burden it will place on your grandchildren, don’t cash it. There’s nobody watching, and nobody has to know. Do what you think is best with it.

Anybody want to be he cashes it the day he gets it?

By Al

January 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Hey, this DUH character is one sick, twisted soul. How’d you like to live near something like that. He couldn’t afford my neighborhood, but if he could, he’d be carried on the end of a pitchfork, shrieking all the way to the nearest dumpster. Needs to be put out of his traitorous misery. Now Ralph, you do as you wish with your rebate check. Me? I’m gonna do the proper Republican thing. I’m enrollong in JESUS CAMP. Again.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

$$$$By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! January 24, 2008 2:26 PM Isn’t it amazing how many Republicans want Obama to win the Democratic position? Guess their holding that Muslim card up their sleeve for the Presidential election….$$$$

Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad: It will be worn out and old news by then from all of the Ku Klux Klinton usage, not to mention the crack dealer and “spade” work slur.

It looks like Ku Klux will need all the “help” she can get against Snowflake, so I’m sure there will be something fresh and new brought out that we can use against him later.

Thanks for all your help.

By Poll Stir

January 24, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

[[Pollster John Zogby said Monday’s debate had shifted sentiment among voters in the southern state.]]

[[“Since the debate, Obama and Clinton have dropped and Edwards has been rising,” Zogby said. “There is definitely some movement here.”]]

[[Obama’s dip came largely among black voters, who are expected to make up more than half of the Democratic primary electorate in South Carolina on Saturday.]]

[[Support for Obama, an Illinois senator who would be the first black U.S. president, fell from 65 percent to 56 percent among African-Americans, with Clinton climbing two points among blacks to 18 percent.]]

Two days and counting.

By getalife

January 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Get this, the House is not in session because the gop are in a weekend retreat.

Amazing.

By RNC E-MAIL ALERT

January 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Barack Hussein Obama

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

$$$$That didn’t stop the Klinton campaign, which went up with a new radio ad yesterday quoting Mr. Obama out of context. “Aren’t those the ideas that got us into the economic mess we’re in today? Ideas like special tax breaks for Wall Street. Running up a $9 trillion debt. Refusing to raise the minimum wage or deal with the housing crisis. Are those the ideas Barack Obama’s talking about?” Ms. Klinton knows they’re not. In fact, on policy grounds, the two candidates are extremely close, which makes the nomination fight in part about character and judgment. This episode does not speak well for Ms. Klinton’s.-Wapo$$$$

Bwa.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! January 24, 2008 2:26 PM

I think most R’s hope Hillary wins the nod. She’ll lose in a landslide to ANYBODY.

By getalife

January 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Yes, they caught her on tape smoking crack.

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Hey RB,

Just admit you don’t care about poor kids.

You know you don’t, you just think you’re tweaking my nose with your disingenous posting.

You got your money and that’s all that matters!!

Kucinich is the correct choice!

Kucinich in ‘08!

P.S. Did anyone else see McCain almost foaming at the mouth this a.m. on FAUX NEWS? One of FAUX’s anchors asked McCain if he was ready, and McCain growled, much worse than Dean’s so-called screem, that he “Was ready, grrrroooooowwwwllll!”

If the mainstream, chicken-crap media would play that clip as much as they played Dean’s, McCain will be out of the race tomorrow. But no, our corporate, spineless media would never do that when they can report on dead pregnant, white Marines and Heath Ledger’s drug death!!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! January 24, 2008 2:26 PM

I think most R’s hope Hillary wins the nod. She’ll lose in a landslide to ANYBODY.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

{{Me? I’m gonna do the proper Republican thing. I’m enrollong in JESUS CAMP. Again.}}

Al @ 2:40 — so I guess the Jesus Camp didn’t take for you the first time? :>)

By Ralph

January 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

BM from Gwinnett. I spend rare time here. Lucky for you I caught your 2:36. Hush. You cannot possibly compete. Your intellectual and verbal development obviously got stuck somewhere back on…Gilligan’s Island.

By Lickoderm

January 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Luckodoze, about your 2:48

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

By getalife

January 24, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Folks, duh is unhinged because his candidate lazy fred dropped out.

That night, he would have won the Louisiana gop caucus.

Nixon was right about lazy fred, dumb as a rock.

No wonder duh loved him. Two peas in a pod.

By Goldie

January 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Do Hillary’s supporters really believe that the majority of American voters will want to put the Clintons back in the White House in January ‘09? Is that what they’re banking on???

By Can't Resist

January 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

The Political Oscars

By CYCLOPS

January 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

StupiDUH: Shut your ignorant perverted mouth. Quit bashing the Klan. You are a gross insult to Republican Klanners everywhere!

By Ygtbkmr

January 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

The Dean scream was released when he thought he was winning which he didn’t btw.

McCain was joking around with the FOX friends.

Nice try though idjit.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: My new candidate is Barak Obama, at least until the Georgia Primary, that will be my first and possibly last anti Ku Klux Klinton vote of 2008.

I have a feeling there will be many, many Fred Thompson voters casting their ballots for Obama.

Who said we were out of it?

If Billy Klux doesn’t do the bit-ch in before then.

Did you dust off your old Ku Klux Klown suit for the upcoming big day in La?

By mm

January 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Hey, all of you wingnut loons.

So you are going to whine about a rebate check going to people who don’t earn enough to be required to pay taxes?

Many of these people are part-time employees, most likely high school and college students, struggling to pay their bills.

Or do you want them collecting unemployment or welfare?

These rebates are going to help the economy no more than the holiday season did.

And to top it off, I won’t even get one. I don’t want or need GOP welfare.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

By Ralph 2:52 PM

You’ll cash the check, won’t you?

Funny how you and TM both get so defensive when you get exposed for the two faced little pinkos you really are.

Hey, here’s an idea. You and TM could team up with your checks and buy health insurance for poor kids. You could call your effort “the first time liberals ever put their own money into what they believe in” fund. Just think of the smiles on those kids faces! You could even offer to take them to the doctor while mom is at wor… getting her nails done. Make sure you keep John Edwards’ phone number handy in case those aweful doctors (rich white people) misdiagnose their rash.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

By Ralph 2:52 PM

You’ll cash the check, won’t you?

Funny how you and TM both get so defensive when you get exposed for the two faced little pinkos you really are.

Hey, here’s an idea. You and TM could team up with your checks and buy health insurance for poor kids. You could call your effort “the first time liberals ever put their own money into what they believe in” fund. Just think of the smiles on those kids faces! You could even offer to take them to the doctor while mom is at wor… getting her nails done. Make sure you keep John Edwards’ phone number handy in case those aweful doctors (rich white people) misdiagnose their rash.

By Tonito

January 24, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Leave duh alone! Just leave him alone! He cain’t help hisself! He’s one o them homo outside-agitators. Lusts fer all of us. Jutht leave duh alone! How can you be angry at a man who lusts fer yore loins each n every day? Just leave duh alone! Plus, his 8:03 tells us that during the Bush years he has been able to move from a tent all the way up to a single-wide. His income had quadrupled - now he can afford lunchmeat with his cheese for dinner. I’m happy for him. But leave homo duh alone!

By @@

January 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

I’ll admit, Huckabee had me fooled early on but only for a short time. It’s strange to say, but “too nice” always leaves me suspicious.

The campaign finance records for Conservative Leadership for Arkansas PAC, Mr. Huckabee’s political action committee, also seem to bear out the charge that he was building his own organization.

(((Records kept with the secretary of state in Little Rock show that CLAPAC spent only a third of its money on candidates between 2001 and 2006, with the rest going to consulting, accounting and, in later years, travel and fundraising for Mr. Huckabee.)))

(((Mr. Huckabee gave contributions as well during those years to at least three Democrats. Given that $5,000 of CLAPAC’s money came in a 2003 donation from the state Republican Party, that means some Republican money was used indirectly to aid the party’s own opponents.)))

(((“Go out and ask those ladies at bake sales or out raising money if they thought that money would end up in the hands of Democratic candidates,” Mr. Hendren said. “That’s what drove us up a wall.”)))

Huckabee needs to be skewered.

So much for the campaign scene, which I’m finding progressively boring—I’m off to the Middle East.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

$$$$By Tonito January 24, 2008 3:16 PM But leave homo duh alone!$$$$

Geez, it isn’t enough for the libs to be launching racist attacks on the first black man to run for president, now they are insulting homosexuals too.

Does the hate over stop?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

-=-

Speaking of Keith’s death!

It seem Fred Phelps and the “Westboro Baptist Church” of the Insane, plan to protest Mr. Ledgers’s funeral because he was in that gay movie thingy….

Now I wonder if “The Patriot Guard” will come to the Ledger family’s defense here - or will they side with Fred and the in-bred family dark-brood on this one?

Duh? Your last name wouldn’t be Phelps would it? I mean the ranting logic seems to be — uhh similar…

-=-

(sorry Truthman — not meaning to impose, but this has to be addressed)

RB’ -

8.5 million wouldn’t buy much child healthcare at all. Thats a drop in the bucket when it comes to healthcare cost.

But 8.5 million can put the spotlight (through the media) on the Cheney,Wolfie,Rove,Rummy,Bush,PNAC-ThinkTanks runaway war budget, and other taxpayer waste — then yes it would help save the children.

The over 600 billion currently being wasted in Iraq (and more to be spent on future wars everywhere else) should be clearly shown for the waste of our taxes that it is. Then lets just say even 20 billion re-directed to Children’s health care - well that would definitly put a dent in the child healthcare problems facing our nation today..

Use our tax dollars in America — not farwaway lands —- quit being world police and nation builders on our backs!…

Cheers’

By @@

January 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

May I suggest that everyone put the rebate checks in their church’s benevolence fund where it can do the most good. People in need often stop by my church for assistance.

If people are experiencing personal shortfalls, then use them…that’s what they’re for.

By getalife

January 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

@@,

You are easily fooled. 935 times you got punked.

Anyhoo, while you reading about the ME, the folks from Gaza just taught our illegals how to get around that fence thingy we are building.

By Can't Resist

January 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Read the stimulus package.

Once again this administration leaves me UNstimulated!

By What's a troll to do?

January 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Has any body figured out who the funky Duhmiester is backing now that his boy has joined the tidy bowl dude? He won’t respond to me. Threatened probably by the fact that he has no one and no where to go. Without a hero to support he gets hatier and hatier every day. Imagine his lonely life, B*** about Hillary all day long. Nothing to offer instead of her. What do you think he’ll do all alone in the voting booth with no lever to pull?No button to push? Glad I won’t be voting in his precinct. Come on DUH. We your adoring fans are sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for your ever powerful endorsement. Huck, Mitt or Mc? It can’t be a really tough pick for you. Try eeny, meeny miny moe, i’m a truly stupid schmoe and then just pick one already. The suspense is killing us. We hover close awaitin word from Duh most high. Whatllyahave? Whatllyahave?

By MomCat

January 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

January 24, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this Bushie, eh? $$$Congressional leaders announced a deal with the White House Thursday on an economic stimulus package that would give most tax filers refunds of $600 to $1,200, and more if they have children.$$$$

Wheeeee! I can now buy health insurance for one (1) week. The package includes diapers, formula and whatever the insurance doesn’t cover. Heck I’ll still have enough left for a diet coke!!!! Count me in!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 3:23 PM

You and I can debate all day long on the merits of the money spent on the war in Iraq, good, bad, or other, but you cannot debate any postive good that can come to ANYONE from $8.5MM being spent to tarnish W’s legacy. Put your money where your mouth is, liberal.

I still think it’s funny getaclue keeps saying we’ll be out of Iraq in a year when none of the D candidates will do that if elected. They all know we can’t walk away. Fool.

By @@

January 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Well I guess I was in the good company of your candidate, Hillary cause she got punked as well.

I read about the Gaza breakthrough. Egypt has been dragging its’ feet on security allowing Hamas to sneak weapons in:

((Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit dismissed Jan. 11 any plans for a permanent U.S. presence on the Egypt-Gaza border, and said it was too early to talk about deploying NATO and Arab forces in the West Bank.))

Now their Egyptian police are having to punish their own citizens for aiding and abetting Palestinians escaping Hammas.

They’re gonna have to do something now. What do you think they’ll do.

By Prophetess Kelley P

January 24, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Bless you @@! God Bless you. You are a Saint.

I can’t stress enough how important it is to give all your rebate money to the Church. Sign those checks over to My fund and together we can partner with God and bring about His glories and such.

What better way to do this than through politics. My Christian fund intends to do just that. This country needs Mike Huckabee as our next Prophident and will need to beat Hillary in order to do that.

Please sign your rebate check over to My charity, made payable to Christian Angels Stopping Hillary, CASH for short.

Do it for the children.

Charitous!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

-=-

RB — it is not money being spent to “Tarnish” anything — but rather money being spent to bring to light long overdue truths about the events and decpetions from this administration. The tarnishing was done by Bush himself when he lied.. over and over again.

It is money well spent to bring truth out in the open and recorded for historic reference. And to be realistic, 8.5 million is even less than many low budget horror/slasher movies cost-

So using that (8.5mil) money to document historic events (many facts which have been destroyed along with records illegally during the Dubya era,) is actually important for history purposes and future generations to truly know what all this was about.

History will not be kind to this President -=- Period!….

No — you are quite correct - Iraq is something we are stuck in for a while no matter who gets elected. That’s why we call it a quagmire..

But keep in mind — The democrats didn’t get us into this quagmire, your buddy Bush and friends did that….So don’t start obfuscating the reality of who is at fault for the mid-east fiasco we now face.

Cheers’

By @@

January 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Sorry Prophetess, Huckabee is a liberal. Can’t see myself voting for him. I’d rather give to those who ask—cut out the middle man (government).

Be careful though. Unfortunately the churches will need to scrutinize those requesting assistance. We’ve often found that some of them are scheisters huckin’ for a handout that they don’t really need but is truly needed by others.

By Sen Vitter (REPUBLICAN)

January 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

I can’t think of anything better to spend your rebate check on Momcat.

Thank you for choosing to buy diapers, you are a true American hero.

I was truly touched by your story. I’m a changed man.

By N-GA

January 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

I just read an article in which the author suggested that the first thing the Federal government should do to help stimulate the economy is to provide money to the unemployed. (more $$$ for longer period). His reasoning is that this money would get spent most quickly, thus cycling back through the economic system (more consumption, more manufacturing). Sounds reasonable to me: Get it to those who need it most, and who will spend it quickly.

I also think Federal spending on needed infrastructure would help (roads, bridges, dams, etc.).

By getalife

January 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

They will arm them @@.

Not to worry, w has a peace plan and will stop the recession he caused and peace in the ME he destroyed.

Yes, you are easily fooled and will take the easy way out and blame them liberals or clenis.

Bwa.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

$$$$By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~!January 24, 2008 3:23 PM Duh? Your last name wouldn’t be Phelps would it?$$$$

Uh, no:

$$$$Phelps supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic Party primary election.[39] In his 1984 Senate race, Gore opposed a “gay bill of rights” and stated that homosexuality was not something that “society should affirm”.[40] Phelps has stated that he supported Gore because of these earlier comments.[41] According to Phelps, members of the Westboro Baptist Church helped run Gore’s 1988 campaign in Kansas. Phelps’ son, Fred Phelps Jr., hosted a Gore fundraiser, which Al and Tipper Gore attended, at his home in Topeka.[10][41] Fred Phelps, Jr. served as a Gore delegate to the 1988 Democratic National Convention.$$$$

A lib and he hates fa-gs too.

Typical, isn’t it?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

-=-

2 very valid points N-GA — and I agree…

Putting money in building infrastructure - pays workers doing a job, and those workers spend that money putting food on their familys table - and the farmers and store owners spend their money — well lets just say — economy stimulated….

(although the GOP would say since highway workers are government employees that this is big government building)

Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.

By Paul

January 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

N-GA

I gather from Bosch’s comment you father is recuperating from some form of cancer. Glad to hear he’s on the mend. My family’s had three events in the last two years - comes in waves.

A friend sent me this yesterday and I thought of you and your dad. Thought he might enjoy it. Rather than clog the board with the entire, I found a link that has it reprinted. Next to last paragraph could have been penned by you.

Link: A P-51 and Her Pilot

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Hey People for the nuked Amerika Century:

Please, add to the logic. I know RB just doesn’t want his gun pried from his cold, dead hands..

Hell no, he’ll never forget! In fact, I believe I saw RW, RB, @@ and Luck-o-less in Jena, La., with their inbred relatives last weekend. I’d never seen so many mullets, white T-shirts and big, Budweiser bellies in one place since Stone Mountain was the home of Luch-o-dunce’s Klan (wasn’t Luch-o-less the big, stupid Klansman played by John Goodman in “O’ Brother, Where Art Thou!?!).

That was great when he was killed by the burning cross!! Such irony!!!

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.”

—Sinclair Lewis, 1937

By What's a troll to do?

January 24, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

what the hell is your problem DUH? you will crap all over every body else here on this blog, cause they all think you are mental. but me, i could be an follower. wear the same unifrom as you. just lead me. tell me which of the stunning stellar gop candydates left is the one for us. i hear you and obey. does all this hate for your mom that turns into hate for hillary mean that in the most private of your parts and moments you will in the end vote for the women. somewhere in the back of your head the words keep pounding. pounding. shes the lady shes the lady must obey. with out your direction what are going to do. pick a cand, any cand. then just slip it back into the deck and I’ll be able to tell.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Where’s my $1200 tax refund check? I need to buy some milk and gas.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

O.K, a hint:

Here’s a new radio ad from my chosen candidate:

$$$$”She championed NAFTA — even though it has cost South Carolina thousands of jobs. And worst of all, it was Hillary KKKlinton who voted for George Bush’s war in Iraq,” an announcer says in the new radio spot.$$$$

$$$$”She’ll say anything, and change nothing. It’s time to turn the page,” the spot says.$$$$

He’s tearing that as-s up, ain’t he?

$$$$KKKlinton leads the latest national poll of US voters, with a nine-point lead over Obama, but that lead has shrunk from 24 points in December, a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg News poll found.$$$$

Bwa.

Hell, the Repugs won’t even need my vote this year, hehehe.

By IN THE NEWS

January 24, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Kucinich out.

Rocky (Rambo)endorses McCain.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

-=-

Duh’-

If you read all about the Phelps man - you would see that was when Freddy Phruger was still active as a lawyer, but later when Al’ G’ was running with Bill C’ — Fred turned completely against Al Gore and added him to his personal enemys list.

Not a surprise really as the state of Kansas (AKA we don’t believe in evolution in our schools) is really back-as-wards…

Democrats use to be the conservatives..

But duh’l if you for one minute think Fred - “I hate Gays” supports todays Democratic party — he hee heee hheee — what a marroon….. Ohh your killing me!….

-=-

On another note — it is truly sad to see one of the best stations Atlanta has ever had about to fade away into the history books..

Goodbye 99x’..

Leslie leaving was the last of the greats they had left. I miss the days of Barnes, Leslie, Toucher, Jimmy, and Crash — alas poor Yorrick’,…. But no more…

But unfortunatly I saw this (or even worse) coming when the 99x’ owners sold the station (which at the time was one of the last major independent radio stations in the region) to Cumulus Broadcasting.

Cumulus Broadcasting is known to homogenize their stations rather than allow independent creativity.

So bye bye to 99x, as we watch your towers used for Q100 and to yet another return of The Regular Guys…

Thomas/PNAC

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 24, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! 4:15 PM

{{Corporations and banks tend to stagnate economy by holding their money in banks or investing in making more money to hold in banks rather than rotate it in society.}}}

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT. How in the world do you think banks make money? Are you really that clueless about how our financial systems work? Do you really think if a bank puts money in it’s vault it magically grows somehow? Dimwit, if they don’t rotate the money in society, ie your home or car loan, they don’t make anything. You’ve got to start getting your info somewhere other than Oprah….

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Altlanta is a radio wasteland.

You go to Seattle, L.A., Chicago, NYC, they all have great stations, esp. the college stations in those towns.

Here, we have nesxt to nothing (Thank goodness for “Stonehenge” on WREK-FM, 91.1 Friday’s starting at 8 p.m.)

If I had investment capital, I could open the best REAL radio station Atlanta has ever heard.

You’d never hear “Sweet Home Alabama” on my station, but you’d hear “Tuesday’s Gone” and “I Know a Little.” People would hear pre-Phil Collins Genesis, ELP, Yes, Coltrane, Oscar Peterson, Dave Brubeck, Todd Rundgren, Warren Zevon, Bela Fleck. Johnny Cash, Steely Dan, Patsy Cline (no new country allowed), Leonard Cohen, Dylan, Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, The Beach Boys and many more!

Anybody out there with deep pockets who wants to help me start the best radio in Atlanta history?

By Terri

January 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

I, for one, get a kick out of homoDUH. He is such a perfect example of Repunklicanism. We need those constant reminders here in Merka.

By @@

January 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

(((They will arm them @@.)))

Are you sure?

(((DAVID HARDAKER: But this is a volatile, tightly bound situation. Decisions made in Jerusalem reverberate in Cairo. Gaza’s Hamas movement and Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood are of the same family and the same mind. Neither are friends of the Mubarak regime.)))

(((So in Cairo, what happened in Gaza because of Israel’s pressure, raised a familiar chant with the Muslim Brothers: “With our souls, our blood, we’ll redeem you Palestine.”)))

(((Not if Mr Mubarak has his way. Egypt’s security forces made mass arrests. ——>Five hundred of the Muslim Brothers were carted away<—— lest they fan the flames of revolution.)))

(((As the human wave of Palestinians washed in and out of Egypt, Israel looked on with some concern. Israel’s fear is not what goes out, but what comes back in from Egypt, be it militants or weapons.)))

(((Israel’s foreign ministry spokesman, Arye Mekel.)))

(((ARYE MEKEL: It is the Egyptians that are stationed alongside the border between Gaza and Egypt and therefore it is the responsibility of Egypt to ensure that the border operates in a proper way according to the signed agreements.)))

(((DAVID HARDAKER: Egypt’s foreign ministry spokesman, Hossam Zaki, assured Israel there’d be no trouble.)))

(((HOSSAM ZAKI: They’re not going to allow anything illegal to take place, and as the President said, no one from those crossing the border have weapons or intent to carry weapons.)))

(((DAVID HARDAKER: With the fall of night, the Palestinian escapees remained ensconced on the Egyptian side of the border. How long they’ll stay there is now up to Egyptian politicians and the Palestinian factions.)))

Like I’ve said before Getalife, these neighboring Arab countries sat quietly by while the cancer within festered. As long as the disease was not targeting their well-being all was O.K.

Now the cancer invades them.

If you want to help Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, they’ve got a U.S. Presidential candidate for you.

You do realize that Hamas is a socialist organization or that’s what they would have you believe. They don’t care abo

By Truthman

January 24, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Oooo, RB makes a not-to-veiled racial swipe at Oprah.

Stupid Klansman!! Craw back under your racist rock, A*******wipe!

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Those artists are great, Truthman. You know music, my fine friend. Gracie Slick. I still cant believe such a creature exists. Nowadays she paints these amazing images, and kudos to her for her remarks about aging rock stars. I cant get sick of white rabbit.

By Midori

January 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Has it dawned on anyone else the irony of a complete moron who can’t figure out how to post on a blog has the gall to call someone an idiot?

A “complete” idiot at that?

By Democrats long for the good ole days

January 24, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Democrats were conservatives who fought against integration.

By Luckoduh

January 24, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

$$$$By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! January 24, 2008 4:33 PM But duh’l if you for one minute think Fred - “I hate Gays” supports todays Democratic party — he hee heee hheee — what a marroon….. Ohh your killing me!….$$$$

Oh yeah, ga-y hater Fred Phelps was a regular old Repug, sure thing:

$$$$Fidel Castro Phelps has repeatedly championed Fidel Castro for Castro’s stance against homosexuality; in 1998 Harper’s magazine published a letter Phelps sent to Castro in which he praised Castro and lambasted the U.S. In 2004, when a pro-homosexual Cuban refugee announced plans to travel to Cuba, Phelps sent another letter to Castro “warning” him of the man’s plans and requesting travel visas for a group of WBC congregants so that they could follow the refugee around Havana with signs bearing anti-U.S. and anti-homosexual slogans.[47]$$$$

$$$$Saddam Hussein In 2003, before the fall of Saddam Hussein during the Iraq War, Phelps wrote Hussein a letter praising his regime for being, in his opinion, “the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets.”[48] Furthermore, he stated that he would like to send a delegation to Baghdad to “preach the Gospel” for one week. Hussein granted permission, and a group of WBC congregants traveled to Iraq to protest against the U.S.$$$$

You got any like evidence, dimwit?

I doubt it seriously, after all, he hates fa-gs, so that means he’s a….pinko.

Bwa.

By @@

January 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Sorry, that post went long. To continue:

(You do realize that Hamas is a socialist organization or that’s what they would have you believe. They don’t care about the Palestinian people….never have. It’s power they seek, nothing more.)

The bare necessities in exchange for power.

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

I adore midori!

By @@

January 24, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Even I knew that banks make money through lending, and I’m no econo wizard.

It’s in their “interest” to do so.

Maybe PNAC thinks people and businesses borrow so they can bury the money in a jelly jar somewhere.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

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RB’ —

great multi post there - (LOL)

1) How much of a percentage of said money is in rotation at any one time? and how much is held in banks for milestone payments.

2) How many of those investments are actually kept in the good ol’ USA. and how much of that money is spent in overseas ventures. or outsourced labor.

3) and where do the reaped profits from those investment ventures end up afterwards?

nough’ Said!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

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Ok Ok — Duh’ we both agree that Fred is sicko looney - that really has no grasp of reality or true morality… enough already…

Yes he is the ultimate flip-flopper - except that gay hatred thing…

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Saddam Hussein In 2003, before the fall of Saddam Hussein during the Iraq War, Phelps wrote Hussein a letter praising his regime for being, in his opinion, “the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets.”[48] Furthermore, he stated that he would like to send a delegation to Baghdad to “preach the Gospel” for one week. Hussein granted permission, and a group of WBC congregants traveled to Iraq to protest against the U.S. The WBC members stood on the streets of Baghdad holding signs condemning Bill and Hillary Clinton and anal sex.[49] (( note this duh )) After Saddam was hanged, Phelps released a video commentary that stated that both Saddam Hussein and Gerald Ford (who had died the same week) were now in Hell.

yeah — Freds a sicko — and needs to quit distressing people who are burying their friends and relatives…

Although I have never seen Brokeback Mountain (and really not interested in it) and cannot comment - I will say clearly that I will miss Heath Ledger as Lord Ulrich of Lichtenstein — (A Knights Tale) — may Heath - Rest In Peace…..knowing his work was appreciated by many.

Thomas/PNAC

By getalife

January 24, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Way too long @@.

The people have been coming and going with nobody searching them.

It is like our border, who knows what they are bringning in.

Gore just endorsed gay marriage to give you something else to hate on.

Lets recap your hate list: Clintons, liberals, gays, illegals, Chavez, Castro, Iran and all Muslims, gop candidates, geez I can’t remember them all, the list is endless.

Lots of hate @@.

By N-GA

January 24, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Thanks for the link…terrific!

I remember when I suggested that my dad find a map of his operating theater, then plot each mission using heavy string and map tacks.

By golly, he went and did it! It is fantastic, and elicits countless comments. The strings originate in Fogia, Italy and terminate in places like Russia, Austria, Hungary, Romania (Ploesti), Czechoslovakia, France, Germany, Poland, etc.

His flight log/book is amazing. I keep it in the safe with my house deed. Kinda tells you how I value it.

But when you talk to him about it, he keeps bringing the topic back to the bomber crews. It brings him nearly to tears as he talks about those bombers falling out of the sky. He says to save the praise for them……

By RW-(the original)

January 24, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Thomas/Walt/PNAC,

Are you ever right about anything?

99X was owned and operated for years by Susquehanna before Cumulus took it over in 2005.

By @@

January 24, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

It’s a fine line between love and hate.

I’ve always been very fond of you. (ISH)

I don’t hate the Clintons—I’m in awe of the Clintons of late.

I’d have to be engaged in a bit of self-loathing to hate liberals. I’m very happy with everything about me so….

I can’t even figure out the impact of comprehensive immigration reform to hate people who may be contributing something positive to our economy. That one is a wash for me. Can’t hate what I don’t understand.

I have no respect for dictators. Is your love for them bordering on that line I mentioned or is it “the crush” that you enjoy?

I have no respect for radical extremists but I don’t consider all Muslims to be such. I have great respect for our military, who are working on behalf of Muslims against the atrocities they suffer under radical extremists. Can I assume that’s O.K. with you?

I DO NOT like Huckabee now that I know him to be a devious politician.

Nope Getalife….don’t know what it feels like to hate. Maybe you can tell me.

By RW-(the original)

January 24, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Where does Truth?man get his information? Maybe form T/W/PNAC!

Truthless,

If you want to legalize, regulate, and tax weed it’s perfectly fine with me.

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

palette cleanse

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

palette cleanse

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

palette cleanse

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

palette cleanse

By Kevin

January 24, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

palette cleanse

By Paul

January 24, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

N-GA

You are most welcome. Have you thought of running a recorder as he talks about those events?

I have a good friend whose dad was in the war. Was in pilot training when a major and two sergeants came into the classroom and said “I need twenty-five volunteers for military police. First three rows, come with me.” His dad sat front and center, said he was quite distressed. He was posted to England, where a number of his old classmates were posted flying B-17s (ten men on each aircraft). He said he’d watch the bombers depart every morning and in the evening some of them would return. He’d assist unloading the bodies and the wounded. Said it gave him a different perspective about getting yanked out of training. Your father has a very good point. But without men doing what he did even more of the bomber crews would have been lost.

31st FG? 332nd? Doesn’t really matter. I suppose. They were all great units with hallowed histories.

By Amazed

January 24, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

@@ January 24, 2008 12:47 PM ml, it would appear as though your creative slump began with your “Give it a rest” cartoon and continued through to today’s. I find it distasteful that you would use a commercial airliner to

Oops…Betty Boop has struck again…she’s amazed, shocked, truly mezzzzermed/////

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

January 24, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

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RW -

You are Correct -

99x was a Susquehanna owned station. However Susquehanna was a much smaller company (not one of the big 5-C’s), and a bit more open to new ideas.

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RW

You are Incorrect -

I am not Walt! — get over it!~

Now how many clones on this blog are you —

— and even if you only use one name — Why do you live on this blog posting daily - or hourly even?—

Dude! - You seriously need to go out more — There’s a world out there yah know?

Are you making some kinda’ paycheck on this blog or something? Is that why you are here almost every day?

Obviously you don’t like the cartoonist, so what’s keeping you here?

I just don’t get your obsessive compulsive behavior here! Get help!

Cheers and Beers time — I’m outta here…..

By Auntie Kepila

January 24, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Aloha @@,

getalife hates that we have two parties in this country. He likes only one of them. That’s what makes him “neutral” and “independent”. That, and Kos’s telling him he is. Kos, and Hillary’s people. It’s a general consensus, all right: getalife is neutral and independent and hates no one and nothing other than our bothering with a Party other than the one to which he does not belong, in his neutrality and independence.

Uh-huh. Dasright.

By @@

January 24, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

(((Widespread opposition to labor reform has in recent years hampered the government’s ability to revitalize the economy. In 2007, the government launched divisive labor reform efforts that will continue into 2008. France’s tax burden remains one of the highest in Europe (nearly 50% of GDP in 2005).)))

(((French public workers at hospitals, schools, the postal service and some ministries went on a one-day strike Jan. 24 to protest President Nicolas Sarkozy’s plan to cut the size of the country’s civil service, Bloomberg reported. Seven out of eight unions called for a strike and workers planned demonstrations in Paris and other major cities after Sarkozy promised to shrink the public workforce and link wages and promotions to merit rather than seniority.)))

It’s always nice to have the luxury of sitting back and watching the impact high taxation has on other countries in their ability to serve the people.

Is it really too much to ask that government workers be rewarded on merit? Obviously it is in France.

By RW-(the original)

January 24, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

Would you like to count up our posts?

I have three between 10:08 and 10:35, although in fairness I made a post just after 10:35 saying I was heading to work but the AJC chose to drop it.

This will be my third between 5:44 and when or if this posts.

My posts also come from my own equipment and my own time. I guess that’s kind of like your posts that come from my equipment and on my time too!

By Auntie Kepila

January 24, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

And what would an increase in food stamp and other public assistance have to do with staving off a recession? Anyone?

By Amazed

January 24, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

Kevin January 24, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this palette cleanse

It will take incredible ‘palatte cleansing’ to get this crowd clean…just watch the play on words…junk……pitiful…..

By @@

January 24, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Ahoy Auntie! Maybe we should just give Getalife a new name…

Nehmen Sie mein Leben bitte

Translation: TakeMyLife Please.

By Paul

January 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Pleasant evening, all-

By N-GA

January 24, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Paul,

325th FG, 317th FS.

And now the economy. I’m not convinced that anyone really understands what is happening with the world economies right now. i don’t believe that any specific economy can expand forever. An economy gets its fuel from just a few sources: cheap labor (domestic or foreign), cheap raw materials, cheap capital, efficient production methods. Somewhat like a faire that is fueled by oxygen…when the oxygen is gone, you have……

The USA can continue its profligate ways be using savings and/or printing more dollars that others will continue to accept. When the savings are gone or the dollars lose their value, then…..

I don’t have the answer, just ideas.

By N-GA

January 24, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

oop, my 6:49…too many typos!

By getalife

January 24, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

I love being gay.

I love being gay.

I love being gay.

By @@

January 24, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

I’ll fix it:

faire should have been fire—you were probably thinking about tonight’s menu.

Lower-case i should have been an upper.

be should have been bi?

We got the gist of it anyway.

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