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By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Yeah, but Ku Klux Klintoon will just blame that on Obama.

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Look at the Whiny Times making a “strong” case for government provided health care:

{{{{What happened to Allen at Georgia Regional reflects a pattern of poor medical care at the state hospitals….At Hughes Spalding Children’s Hospital, where the ambulance crew took Allen for treatment, a physician described Allen as “emaciated.” He was dehydrated. His kidneys had failed. Bruises and cuts covered his head, his chest, his abdomen, his legs, his neck, his buttocks. Several wounds, doctors wrote, were “superinfected” —- so badly, they had to be drained surgically.-Urinal}}}}

The people at Georgia Regional are not democrats or Republicans, no, they are government flunkies who couldn’t care less about the menial tasks that the bureaucrats assign to them.

They get paid no matter what, they are unfirable and if you complain about their performance they will hit you with a discrimination charge, no matter if they are white or black.

We are under the control of our own sorry government.

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{{{{Pledging to make a “clean break with the past” and root out corruption, Republican Bobby Jindal tried to separate himself from politics as usual as he was sworn in as Louisiana’s governor Monday.-Urinal}}}}

Al-Gitmo: Just think, even if Ku Klux Klintoon gets, God forbid, elected president, you will still have your own little wingnut leading Louisiana down the road to a smaller and more efficient government.

And one that can probably evacuate their citizens when there is a huge hurricane coming towards you.

See, you asked for “change,” you got it.

Bwa.

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{{{{Barack Obama joined the fray Sunday, proposing a $75 billion “stimulus” that would have the government send millions of Americans a check for $250, plus another $250 in bonus Social Security payments.}}}}

The same people that were whining about the $600 that Bush gave out a few years back, now, all of a sudden, $250 is a king’s ransom.

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

So you think the main stream media is liberal?

{{{Matthews stated, “I will never underestimate Hillary Clinton again.” But the next day, Matthews said, “[T]he reason she’s a U.S. senator, the reason she’s a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around.”}}}}

{{{In 1999, when Clinton was running for the Senate for the first time, Matthews said: “I mean, it’s hilarious, but isn’t that her main claim, that she’s the victim of the — of the — of the year?” later adding, “Now it’s an election ca — it’s a bumper sticker. ‘My husband cheated on me, make me senator.’ “}}}

That�s the kind of fairness that the GOP approves of.

{{{� The Republican presidential candidates sought to embrace Hispanics in a Spanish language debate, striving to mark common ground with a growing voter bloc while softening the anti-illegal immigration rhetoric that has marked their past encounters.}}}

Republicans aren�t racist in front of brown people. They are too busy locking their car doors.

{{{“Almost everyone I’ve talked to says we’re going to move to Houston. What I’m hearing which is sort of scary is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them.”}}}

From the Republican earth mother herself! That is one cold hearted witch In a pearl necklace. Bet she scared the she-it out of HW.

{{{Citing “scheduling conflicts,” Republican candidates for president have dodged the National Urban League’s Annual Conference, the National Council of La Raza’s Annual Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) convention, the National Association of Latino Elected Officials (NALEO), the National Education Association (NEA), the National Council of La Raza (NCLR),�. None of the top four candidates attended a PBS debate at a historically black college in Baltimore, not a single Republican candidate participated in the Logo forum on LGBT issues, and the refusal of all but one Republican candidate to participate in the proposed Univision debate on Latino issues forced the network to cancel it.}}}

The GOP plays it own race card.

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

{{{For all those getting really excited about anti-war, libertarian Republican Ron Paul, it’s worth noting that he’s pretty racist and also an anti-Semite. The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and “fleet-footed.” Mr. Paul also wrote that “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government” and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism. Below are two more news clips making reference to the racist statements in Mr. Paul’s newsletter. These problems have clearly been out there since the mid-1990s, but Mr. Paul has been below the radar until now. If he’s really going to stay in the debates, perhaps the moderators can deal with this… }}} Damn fine libertarian. Liberty from brown people that is!

{{{The first unusual step Romney took was in bringing up (on his own) the fact that until 1978 the Latter Day Saints excluded blacks from becoming priests. He spoke of how he had to pull his car over to the side of the road to weep with gratitude when he heard the news on his radio. That anecdote, of course, presents Romney as a man of proper sentiments. But sentiment alone doesn’t make for a good president. Intelligence, discernment and courage count too. And, on that score, Romney’s story simply reminded Americans that his “inner feelings” about racial equality were never strong enough to cause him to break from (or evenly openly criticize) his discriminatory religion.}}}

Just what this country needs, a President whose inner feelings About racial equality aren�t strong enough.

{{{“In light of what happened in Pakistan yesterday, it’s interesting that there were more Pakistanis who illegally crossed the border than of any other nationality except for those immediately south of our border, 660 last year form Pakistan who came into our country illegally because we don’t have secure borders,” Huckabee told reporters at the Pizza Ranch in a town that has probably supplied one the windows in your home or office.

During a media availability after the event, one reporter suggested the comments might be seen as “ethnic bating.” }}} He sees brown people and he is afraid. Very Afraid.

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

The racist dimwit kkkampaign plods on:

{{{{Democrats never miss an opportunity to play the race card against Republicans and even black conservatives like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas who dare to dissent from liberal orthodoxy. So it’s tempting to enjoy the political entertainment value of a race-based dust up between Senators Ku Klux Klinton and Obama.}}}}

{{{{And as the fallout shows, she’ll have to be very careful about pushing back on this front if she wants to keep black supporters from abandoning her en masse, not only now but in November when they could decide to stay home.}}}}

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{{{{Ku Klux Klintoon broadcast her own humility: “You know, I’m very other-directed. I don’t like talking about myself.” She also described the central role she plays in the lives of all living creatures in the universe: “The Iraqi government, they watch us, they listen to us. I know very well that they follow everything that I say.”}}}}

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{{{{When asked to explain what he was talking about, the Ku Klux Klinton campaign—which has already lost a top official when he resigned over raising Obama’s drug use—issued a statement saying Johnson was simply referring to Obama’s days as a community organizer. This made perfect sense, of course, because Obama’s efforts organizing African-Americans in poor neighborhoods has nothing at all to do with his involvement with black concerns—the contrast Johnson was drawing. In other words, the cover story was gibberish.}}}}

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

{{{{Ronald Reagan said once, “No greater challenge faces our society today than ensuring that each one of us can maintain his dignity and his identity in an increasingly complex, centralized society. Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business, frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise. They are the residue of centralized bureaucracy, of government by a self-anointed elite.” Ronald Reagan was right, but the self-anointed elite today is the media machine that tells us what to think and who to pick and when we don’t do what they want, they wonder how we could be so stupid.}}}}

{{{{That is Fred Thompson’s message to every Republican primary voter. The Reagan Coalition is not dead, but it is in need of a new leader. The voters are jaded by a Republican Congress who squandered the majority and by an Evangelical President they thought was a Reagan conservative. They are discouraged but they might find what they are looking for in Fred Thompson.}}}}

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

{{{For all those getting really excited about anti-war, libertarian Republican Ron Paul, it’s worth noting that he’s pretty racist and also an anti-Semite. The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and “fleet-footed.” Mr. Paul also wrote that “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government” and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism. Below are two more news clips making reference to the racist statements in Mr. Paul’s newsletter. These problems have clearly been out there since the mid-1990s, but Mr. Paul has been below the radar until now. If he’s really going to stay in the debates, perhaps the moderators can deal with this… }}} Damn fine libertarian. Liberty from brown people that is!

{{{The first unusual step Romney took was in bringing up (on his own) the fact that until 1978 the Latter Day Saints excluded blacks from becoming priests. He spoke of how he had to pull his car over to the side of the road to weep with gratitude when he heard the news on his radio. That anecdote, of course, presents Romney as a man of proper sentiments. But sentiment alone doesn’t make for a good president. Intelligence, discernment and courage count too. And, on that score, Romney’s story simply reminded Americans that his “inner feelings” about racial equality were never strong enough to cause him to break from (or evenly openly criticize) his discriminatory religion.}}}

Just what this country needs, a President whose inner feelings About racial equality aren�t strong enough.

{{{“In light of what happened in Pakistan yesterday, it’s interesting that there were more Pakistanis who illegally crossed the border than of any other nationality except for those immediately south of our border, 660 last year form Pakistan who came into our country illegally because we don’t have secure borders,” Huckabee told reporters at the Pizza Ranch in a town that has probably supplied one the windows in your home or office.

During a media availability after the event, one reporter suggested the comments might be seen as “ethnic bating.” }}} He sees brown people and he is afraid. Very Afraid.

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

{{{{I am pleased to announce the launch of Iraq Veterans for Congress. We are twelve pro-victory Republican Iraq War veterans running for Congress in districts across the country.}}}}

{{{{Since the beginning of the war in Iraq, Democrats have cast veterans and active-duty military men and women as victims or villains. For John Kerry, veterans are the hapless pawns of the Bush administration, taken advantage of by the government. John Murtha haphazardly accuses Marines of being cold-blooded killers. Sunday, the front page of the New York Times featured a story that deceitfully suggests returning Iraq veterans are more likely than the general public to commit murder.}}}}

I am here to say that our veterans are heroes; that their sacrifices in Iraq and Afghanistan have made America a safer place; that America is proudly behind them. Standing with me are my eleven fellow Iraq veteran candidates. I hope you will join us.

I just did.

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Some where in the GOP are left a few people with sense.

{{{“We sound like we don’t want immigration; we sound like we don’t want black people to vote for us,” said former congressman Jack Kemp (N.Y.), who was the GOP vice presidential nominee in 1996. “What are we going to do — meet in a country club in the suburbs one day? If we’re going to be competitive with people of color, we’ve got to ask them for their vote.”}}}

Then there are those who have sense when it�s way to late to do them any damn good.

{{{“For Republicans to consistently refuse to engage in front of an African American or Latino audience is an enormous error,” said former House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.), who has not yet ruled out a White House run himself.}}}

Wow! Aren�t we glad we escaped that numnutz as President? What with his Contract On America and how well that turned out.

{{{“When you reject every black invitation and every brown invitation you receive, is that a scheduling issue or is it a pattern?” he asked. “I don’t believe anybody should be elected president of the United States if they think along the way they can ignore people of color. That’s just not the America we live in.”}}}

They certainly don�t mind having brown people watch their kids and mow their lawns.

By Mike

January 15, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

It is wonderful to see liberals turning on each other wih the same intolerance and intellectual dishonesty they have displayed since Bush is in office.

The left has divided into the Obama, Clinton and Edwards camps and have started hateful attacks on each other. Just goes to show that the liberal hatred for Bush has a lot less to do with Bush than it does the intolerant nature of liberals.

Keep bashing each other, please. I am really enjoying it.

By DebbieDoRight

January 15, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Well. Look like it’s gonna be the same old thing all day today — just another day in Paradise!! I’ll check back in later.

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

Funny how the GOP is always a day late and a dollar short!Running vets for Congress? Where the hell were they last go round?

{{{ Fighting Dem Candidates - It has been a pleasure to see the leadership roles taken by those Fighting Dem Vets who went to Congress and Senate. Jim Webb has been amazing in the Senate, moving more boldly than is normal for freshmen Senators. And in the House Vice Admiral Sestak has been an advisor up and down the halls of Congress and makes the chickenhawks on talk shows sheepish (sorry for the mixed metaphor!) when he speaks of commanding a battle fleet. His newly elected Fighting Fighting Dem colleagues have been equally powerful voices on the Hill.}}}

{{{ All of these candidates were challengers, and as usual, the incumbents won most of these elections. However, six Fighting Dems and two non Veteran parents of servicemen in Iraq won their races, and seven of those eight seats taken by Fighting Dems were previously held by Republicans. A number of fighting Dem’s also came very close to being elected. Further more the Fighting Dems forced Republicans to donate time, money etc. in districts and statesd that in previous years they had not. This allowed non Veteran Democrats in other Districts and states to win.}}}

The GOP is trying to copy a winning idea. They�ll do it badly. Always a day late and a dollar short. That dollar along with trillions of others charged to Our grandchildren!

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Geez, where is IN THE NEWS today or did we get another name, ballboy?

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{{{{Think about that. Clinton voted for a resolution that, according to its title, would “authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.” You had to be a 5-year-old — or a Democratic senator with presidential aspirations — to believe that the measure was about putting U.N. inspectors in Iraq. And besides, as she voted for the resolution, Clinton said that a “pre-emptive war” would be “a mistake.”}}}}

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{{{{Edwards divides the anti-Clinton vote - and so undermines the prospects for the changes that he so passionately demands in our government. By staying in, he’s helping deliver the nomination to the person whom he has described as the defender of the status quo.}}}}

{{{{The democratic nomination for president will likely be decided by the subtle pulls of ego against duty that tug at the conscience of John Edwards. He manifestly can no longer win - but he helps Hillary Clinton if he stays in the race and boosts Barack Obama if he pulls out.}}}}

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

{{{ Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, in an attempt to ease tensions between their campaigns after several days of contentious bickering, are calling for Democrats to come together.}}}

As always happens, the Dems want to make peace, but the GOP will want war, war, war.

Between nations or candidates. Little pundits in pleated skirts with GOP sweaters stomping on the floor and cheering - 2 4 6 8 there ain�t anyone we don�t hate

{{{ “We differ on a lot of things. And it is critical to have the right kind of discussion on where we stand. But when it comes to civil rights and our commitment to diversity, when it comes to our heroes - President John F. Kennedy and Dr. King - Senator Obama and I are on the same side.”}}}

But will the talking heads cover this part? Hell no. As long as there is money In making it look as though the Dems are having an internal war the GOP is happy.

War, War War is that all they ever think about?

Almost forgot $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and war war war!

War!

UH! What is it good for?

Absolutely every Republican.

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Isn’t it kinda cute, a million or so posts under the name “IN THE NEWS,” a three week frenzied attack under the name “Hey Duh” and now it has shifted it’s massive efforts into “Lackaballs,” all because of little ole me.

One person who’s whole entire life focus has been shifted to provide a hysterical outburst to the things that I do.

So the IN THE NEWS onslaught of spam is not to provide any message or debating points to this blog, it is the day long maniacal pursuit of a stalker, who obviously hates and cannot deal with what I represent.

I’m so damn good.

Bwa.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 15, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Cliche of the day: Same sh!t, different day.

Nice toon today Mikey. I have never seen a race card deck, but it must be huge as often as the cards are played by ALL sides.

Am I the only one who DOESN’T read the really long postings?

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Duh, Andy, Ricky, RW, RB, @@, BD, what�s in a name? A troll by any other name would still smell like a rotten fish.

{{{Uh, the GOP was in disarray before Iowa, illustrated by the Summer of Shamnesty and GWB being more concerned with Mexico’s well-being than with ours. Considering Republicanism died in the 2006 election, and the “party leader” George W. Bush is a liberal who ended up turning Reagan Conservatism on its ear, we shouldn’t be so surprised the GOP is confused after Iowa. We, the People, have been confused by them for years. If they actually had some sort of leadership, didn’t have such contempt for the people, and weren’t more concerned with Saudi Arabia’s profits than our homeland security and sovereignty, maybe they’d have their act together.}}}

Na Na Na Na hey hey hey good bye

{{{Who to believe? On the eve of the election when unity is supposed to be Job One, comes mixed signals that disunity may be taking over the Republican Party. .}}}

So long Fare well Auf Wiedersehen Good bye

{{{The national Republican party is in a state of panic from coast to coast, unlike anything we’ve seen.}}}

Adieu Adieu to you and you and you

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Oh good grief, give the race card a rest.

Liberals are intolerant Mike? Pot…meet kettle. I think liberals have a better track record in the intolerance department.

You like to make general negative sweeping statements about liberals, don’t ya? So how exactly do you figure that liberals as an entire group are so intolerant?

I get very sick of the media making an issue of this, as they do with many things. I tried to watch the news last night, but this is all they talked about.

They did however mention the $20 billion arms deal Bush is making with the Saudis. This bothers me a good bit more. Is this foreign policy for Bush?

Speaking of Bush foreign policy, how’s that Middle East peace deal going? Haven’t heard much about that lately.

And speaking of track records, the US doesn’t seem to have a good one of making the best judgements in regards to who we sell our weapons too.

Well, we can be all positive about this, that’s $20 billion we don’t have to spend on the war because you know Bush wouldn’t do anything else with that money.

Just some thoughts for the morning……………….

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Lackaballs January 15, 2008 8:47 AM Na Na Na Na hey hey hey good bye}}}}

Careful, ballboy, to much obsession with me will get you stuck in the Georgia Regional mental health center where you will be under the “care” of some dumbas-s liberal hysteric like yourself.

Seriously, if you can’t take a silly political blog without blowing a gasket, how could you ever care for some patient in a mental ward?

By throwing bed pans and screaming at them?

Better step back and breathe, psycho, you could wind up getting for yourself what you wish for others.

Bwa.

By Mrs, Godzilla

January 15, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Good Morning Bosch!

Here’s a disturbing question.

Just how close do you think the “Filipino Monkey” and our President Bush brought us to armed confrontation?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 8:48 AM

Funny how you get so upset when the D’s are called racist, but you don’t seem to mind when the label is tossed in the direction of R’s. Don’t forget to look both ways before you cross that 2 way street, Bosch. You might get run over by a “race” car! (OK, I know that was bad, but I couldn’t resist!!!!)

By Just sayin'

January 15, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

It’s “hillarious” watching the dems cannibalize each other while the loons somehow try to blame it on the Reps. Great stuff.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 8:48 AM

Funny how you get so upset when the D’s are called racist, but you don’t seem to mind when the label is tossed in the direction of R’s. Don’t forget to look both ways before you cross that 2 way street, Bosch. You might get run over by a “race” car! (OK, I know that was bad, but I couldn’t resist!!!!)

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 15, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Dang Mrs. G, if W attacks another country, we might have to start staffing our military with the kids of Republicans. Yikes, who woulda thunk it?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 8:48 AM

Funny how you get so upset when the D�s are called racist, but you don�t seem to mind when the label is tossed in the direction of R�s. Don�t forget to look both ways before you cross that 2 way street, Bosch. You might get run over by a �race� car! (OK, I know that was bad, but I couldn�t resist!!!!)

By Paul

January 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

G’morning, Bosch

As I fast forwarded thru O’Reilly last night I saw he had remarks and a segment on this “race” issue. Said he wasn’t defending Hillary (sorta sounded like it) but was demonstrating how mainstream media manipulates remarks, etc.

Chris Mathews, MSNBC, attacks Hillary. Bill O’Reilly, FOX, defends her (my take) and attacks dishonest media.

What an interesting campaign season.

G’morning to you, too, Mrs. Godzilla

Take the radio broadcast completely out of the incident. Put yourself in the position of the ships’ captains even without the fake broadcast. Given the Navy’s track record with speedboats in the Middle East the captains showed proper restraint. I think it was the Iranians, not the Americans, whose actions in this case were provocative (one side was conducting normal transit, the other sought out the other).

I still maintain what I said the other day - Ahmadinejad’s position with Khameini, particularly after the American revised estimate on Iran’s nuke program, the perceived threat from America has diminished so the economic mess takes center stage, and Ahmadinejad may just provoke an incident for domestic political purposes. The US should engage diplomatically - not as Hillary proposed - without preconditions.

DebbieDoRight

Welcome back. If it’s not too personal, where’d your husband get posted after graduating from the language institute? I hope it’s in more of a garden spot than south central Arizona!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 8:48 AM

Funny how you get so upset when the D�s are called racist, but you don�t seem to mind when the label is tossed in the direction of R�s. Don�t forget to look both ways before you cross that 2 way street, Bosch. You might get run over by a �race� car! (OK, I know that was bad, but I couldn�t resist!!!!)

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

By Bosch 8:48 AM

Funny how you get so upset when the D�s are called racist, but you don�t seem to mind when the label is tossed in the direction of R�s. Don�t forget to look both ways before you cross that 2 way street, Bosch. You might get run over by a �race� car! (OK, I know that was bad, but I couldn�t resist!!!!)

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa,

You have a point.

However I saw the video at the Young Republicans convention and they just don’t see a military career as an option.

Didn’t I read something about letting illegal imigrants earn citizenship by serving in our armed forces? 12 million inductees available today!

Three wars, no waiting?

By Filipino monkey

January 15, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Late yesterday, I read Lewin’s spy report telling us not to p** on the President’s shoes.

Imagine a spy on this blog spilling State secrets. You Americans will believe anything.

I can start World War Three on my ham radio. Top that Lewin.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Lucoduh,

Let me answer your question you posed yesterday before you went on your Klan like spewing against blacks and gays, you said:

“You called Bushie a �drunk� and I find that to be interesting for two reasons, one is that Bushie has not taken a drink in over twenty years”

You are wrong here as you are wrong on all the dribble you spill on this blog. Dubya continues to drink, he drinks near bear which contains ALCOHOL, Look it up if you want.. And if you hate blacks and gays so much why dont you move to Iran, they dont have any gays….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

By John in Tampa, FLA 9:04 AM

{{{Dang Mrs. G, if W attacks another country, we might have to start staffing our military with the kids of Republicans.}}}

That would be much funnier if the military didn’t already vote decidedly Republican. Are you telling us only the Republican kids of Democrat parents join the military?

I know you think statements like that make good blog material, but it’s just factually wrong. Either you know it’s wrong and you’re dishonest, or you don’t have a clue. Which is it?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

By John in Tampa, FLA 9:04 AM

{{{Dang Mrs. G, if W attacks another country, we might have to start staffing our military with the kids of Republicans.}}}

That would be much funnier if the military didn’t already vote decidedly Republican. Are you telling us only the Republican kids of Democrat parents join the military?

I know you think statements like that make good blog material, but it’s just factually wrong. Either you know it’s wrong and you’re dishonest, or you don’t have a clue. Which is it?

By Lickoderm

January 15, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Well if you think of it its obvios a ham radio could start a war.

That would make them Muslims touch pork and they don’t like that. We need to get more ham radios for our brave soldiers.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Paul

Good Morning.

Just how provacative can an unarmed speedboat be?

Oh, wait, nevermind.

I’ve been on Lake Lanier on the 4th of July.

By moonbat betty

January 15, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

That’s right RB, there are no republicans in the military. That’s why the dems tried to throw out their absentee votes.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

For my buddy RB from Gwinnett, let me answer your question also. You wrote:

“So, lets get this straight�

The intelligence community said Iraq had WMD�s from at least 1998, when Clinton commented Iraq had WMD�s, up until 2003 when Bush and most of the democratic leadership who also have access to their intel reports made a decision to disarm them of WMD�s. They believed Iran had an active nuclear program each and every year from 2003 to present, even though they now say it was stopped in 2003. So they were either wrong for the 4 years since 2003 or they�re wrong now. “

Here is the differnce, yes the intel community in 98 thought Iraq had WMD. The UN tried to send in inspectors in October of 98 and Sadaam wouldnt let them in to inspect. After a 15-0 Un vote we dropped a few bombs on him. I beleive the GOP at the time called this WAG THE DOG.

Now 2003, Intel still beleived that Iraq had WMD, but the major differnce is that the UN inspectors were allowed all over the country and found nothing. Hans Blix the lead inspector said as much while the Bush admin kept saying oh we know where they are. And if you remember Blix expressing his frustration with the Bushies that if they know where they are they should tell us. You remember Rummy saying “we know were they are, there in the North, the south, the east..blah,blah,blah. So you had one administration who was blocked from inspecting and another who inspectors found nothing but Bush didnt believe them. Just like now that intel shows no Iran nukes but Bush feels it in his heart so he thinks he is right…

By Just sayin'

January 15, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

“Just how provocative can an unarmed speedboat be?”

How about a dinghy?

Just ask the crew of the USS Cole.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla

The USS Cole was hit by a speedboat. Unarmed. Except for the explosives carried. Seventeen sailors killed, thirty-nine injured. It was a new tactic, one the Navy is now on guard against. Rather like airport security after airliners crashing into civilian buildings.

Even without ramming the ship (at N knots, closure rate of N feet per second, at what point is it too late to engage a speedboat heading directly at you? ask the sailors) there are enough portable munitions to cause harm. Or, as the dumping of the white boxes indicates, a new type of IED. Think about it. The ships did not alter course and sailed past the boxes. If the boxes had explosives, ball bearings, etc and a proximity fuse (designed to explode when they detect mass in the area) there could be more American deaths.

And that would be just a tad provocative.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

I must question this blanket statement and ask for your source.

“That would be much funnier if the military didn�t already vote decidedly Republican.”

I know Ron Paul, the anti-war Republican is getting more $$$$ from military families than any one else.

I know that military dollars (40% according to the Center for Responsive Politics) are going to the Democrats.

What I don’t know is where you got that “fact”, or if it was true of the past or will be true in 2008.

Oh, and if the question count is on between us again, your last paragraph’s question is unclear, apparently rhetorical and based on your maliciously incorrect interpretation of a statement of mine, therefore not worth a response.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 15, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Darn RB, I didn’t know honesty was a pre-requisite to blog here. I didn’t know all of the black and latino soldiers came from Republican families. I always thought black and latino families were traditionally Dems. I stand corrected.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

For RB again,

Yes i worked over 15 years in Intel. I worked when Reagan and Bush I was in office, what we in Intel appreciated was nobody tried to doctor what we found. But in the Bush case they used your GOP hero and future Presidental Freedom medal winner “Curveball” who told these elaborate stories about biological weapons. Now once the CIA deposed him and investigated the found all of his claims to be false. Problem was you had Cheney and Scooter up at Langley everyday cherry picking what they wanted to use. This has been well documented. So as you can see this is the only Administration to every do to the intel community what they have done. Cherry pick the info they wanted and leave out all the truth….

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Y’all are right on about the USS Cole.

So new rules for international waters:

Get close to an US warship, in international waters and be prepared to be blown up.

OK.

By Profit

January 15, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

The clintons have betrayed their African American supporters many times. Money that should have been used to uplift the Black community was diverted by the Clintons to Israel to repay the zionist supports of zipper boy. Hillary hates and dispises men, especially black men, because of their sexual accomplishments. IMHO, Hillary intends to punish all men for Bill’s indescretions - She will fill her administration with angry white women of the lesbian persuasion who will work to take money and power from men and give it to women. NO MAN WITH EVEN HALF A BRAIN SHOULD EVER VOTE FOR HILLARY.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

Being aware of the possibilities, I think the Navy captains showed remarkable professionalism.

But the scenario is a real possibility. Same holds true in the reverse. If we take certain actions against certain ships (include Iran, N Korea) in international waters we risk the possibility that we will be fired upon (even in that case we’d still be the aggressors…) - which is why we don’t maneuver in such a way around the ships of such countries.

But you are correct - certain actions bring about revisions in the rules of engagement. And the revisions are most often reactive - they are impelled by what others do.

Don’t worry about Lake Lanier. If you listen carefully, the broadcast from the speedboats approaching you will likely be “Do you have any beer?”

:-)

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Good morning Paul and Mrs. G!

All this speedboat stuff is disturbing, but IMHO, not very important. Again, I think the media is making a mountain out of molehill.

I mean, let’s be real here, how stupid would you have to be to drive around in a speedboat dropping things in the water near a Navy ship. I know I’m talking about a culture who some members think nothing about strapping explosives to themselves and blowing up things, but I have a good bit more faith in our Navy and other military leaders than I do in Bush to use some restraint and only respond in an immediate threat.

I think places like Iran need war, don’t ask me to explain that right now….too long, short version, provoking us, looking the victim, getting weapons from other places to fight off big bad imperialistic US…. so I think it’s very important to use some restraint and diplomacy - but then again, I thought that’s what they needed to do in Iraq.

So what do you think about this $20 billion arms deal with the Saudis?

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

{{{{By W stands for worst January 15, 2008 9:28 AM Lucoduh, Let me answer your question you posed yesterday before you went on your Klan like spewing against blacks and gays, you said: �You called Bushie a �drunk� and I find that to be interesting for two reasons, one is that Bushie has not taken a drink in over twenty years� You are wrong here as you are wrong on all the dribble you spill on this blog. Dubya continues to drink, he drinks near bear which contains ALCOHOL, Look it up if you want..}}}}

Well, well, look at the righteous chest pounders on the left, bible thumping so to speak, they caught Bushie drinking some near “bear.”

Why the horror!

If Bushie and Swimmer Kennedy went out drinking together, Bushie would have an 8000 dollar bar tab just to keep up.

And Bushie would have to drink two thousand cans of near “bear” to be as drunk as Sindi Blumenthal, Ku Klux Klintoon kkkampaign advisor, was when he got busted for marauding some small town in New Hampshire at a high rate of drunken speed.

But Bushie is the “drunk,” eh?

{{{{And if you hate blacks and gays so much why dont you move to Iran, they dont have any gays�.}}}}

Check this out, dimwit, you libs insult other people by calling them gay, Senator Craig gives you much pleasure, is it because you think homosexuality is a normal healthy activity?

I’m the gay basher?????

Ku Klux Klintoon calls MLK a waterboy and says Obama hasn’t done enough “spade” work and that his “wifey” wants big houses that they can’t afford, and you call me the racist?

You must be really dense, dude.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 9:54 AM

Where was the senate intelligence committe in all this?

By DebbieDoRight

January 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

[[DebbieDoRight — Welcome back. If it�s not too personal, where�d your husband get posted after graduating from the language institute? I hope it�s in more of a garden spot than south central Arizona!]]

Thanks!! Can’t stay long though, duty calls and I still have to prepare for next semester — the good news though, with all the running around that I do, I’ve lost 25 pounds!!! Now I look like a Watuzzi warrior!! Tall and skinny — I’ve got to get some of my weight back!!! I’m loosing my ba-dunka-dunk-dunk! (The pride of all black females!)

My husband has been in Afghanistan for the past 12 months — I’ll see him when he gets leave in April; that’s when he’ll tell me that he’s “thinking about” re-enlisting again — so that all his training won’t go to “waste”. I’m going to pretend I’m suprised by his announcement but I really won’t be — he’s been hinting around for the past couple of months about re-upping.

But I WILL tell him to think long and hard about whether he wants to be married to the military or to me. When we got married, he was geting out of the military and, as far as I was concerned, WASN’T going to be a soldier for much longer; growing up in a military family I knew that the one thing I didn’t want to marry was a SOLDIER, AIRMAN, SEAMAN, etc. It’s HARD being the spouse of a military person and spending every holiday, birthday, etc. ALONE while everyone else has someone to share their lives with. So, I’m gonna put my foot down. Who knows where that’ll go.

How are things with you? I stop in about once a week to catch up on the blogs and I see you’re still smacking down stupidity for truth, justice and the American Way!! Keep up the good work!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Bosch, you are right on! The media made a mountain out of a mole hill.

And then President Bush used that faux mountain in the media to rachet up the same old terror talk.

Somethings never change.

However, calmer heads who do real investigation and reporting prevailed in the end.

I am steadfastly opposed to this arms deal. We are the Gun and Pawn shop to the world, and it does always come back to bite us.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 9:54 AM

Where was the senate intelligence committe in all this?

By getalife

January 15, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Wow, we have spies and the Filipino monkey posting on this blog.

Punked again I see.

Obama and Clinton have taken the high road and both have economic stimulus for this recession corporate media fed you this racist crap and even Mike drew it. But then again, he draws on fixed noise.

Focus on the issues people, w and gop will not do anything to stimulate the economy. Where is the gop plan? It is stay the course. The people they govern, the elites, do not care about the economy, they are filthy rich. Hello.

Stop buying into the corporate media bs for goodmess sake.

When you learn they are punking you. The corporate is embedded with the corporate government.

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

“Nothing has changed [at Walter Reed]. Same facility. None of the recommendations that I made have been implemented and to my knowledge they really aren’t working on it.” Former Army Lt. and military nurse Doug Connor sat down for an interview with Truthout reporter Geoffrey Millard to share his experience before and after the Walter Reed Medical Center scandal broke.

Yes, it was me playing with Duh this morning. Slow news day.

Much more fun poking the bear.

Let’s us always remember, that I am the only one who ever admits to using another ID….somebody else out there is still lying!

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Wholesale prices rise 6.3 percent in ‘07 Wholesale Prices Rise in 2007 by 6.3 Percent, Largest Amount in 26 Years

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Greenspan sees US in or near recession

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

RB:

In the 2003 case they were all GOP and hanging on every word Cheney and Scooter said, and the Dems were never invited to any of the meetings. Im not making that up, the GOP wanted to so control the intelligence going to the hill that only the committee chairman was shown some but not all of the intel. In 98 the Intelligence committee was briefed with the info available at the time and decided since the inspectors werent allowed in that Iraq must be hiding something. But the ultimate call was made by the UN on a 15-0 vote to sanction Iraq…

By Paul

January 15, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Bosch

“let�s be real here, how stupid would you have to be to drive around in a speedboat dropping things in the water near a Navy ship.”

Well, they did it, so that answers your question! Also tells you we’re dealing with people who have a slightly different view of reality than we do.

I understand your “Iran needs war” comment. See my earlier comments about Ahmadinejad’s political position.

The arms deal - Foreign Military Sales have been a staple of large countries for years. Helps the companies. Helps the country’s strategic interests. Will use sorry excuse of “if we don’t the Russians, Germans, French, Brits will.”

Saudis getting a bit nervous over Iran. Their perspective, as has been discussed here, is a Dem Pres withdraws from Iraq, Iraq is unstable, Iranian influence grows tremendously, they become the premier regional power, they have a radical Islamic component to their government, the Saudis feel like the business in a gang neighborhood where the cops announce a withdrawal. The business owner buys some independent security.

Still doesn’t mean I like the scope of our arms sales. But in some cases they serve our interests.

We’ve been training Saudi pilots and other officers for decades. In America. They go through the flight program with American military. Then they go on to become high ranking officers, or back to their royal family duties. But many still have unofficial associations with Americans. Which, we hope, plays to our advantage.

ttyl -

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

“And then President Bush used that faux mountain in the media to rachet up the same old terror talk.”

Exactly.

Hopefully some things will change and the general public will see through the fear tactics.

Now, the Saudis - it would be real easy to say, why the hell are we selling arms to a country where the 9/11 hijackers came from and OBL. But that’s comparing apples to oranges, well not oranges, but maybe red apples to crab apples. The thing that bugs me is that what have the Saudis done for us lately?

To me, it just another example of how our country has absolutely no intention of reducing our addiciton to oil, because let’s be real here, Saudis = Oil.

And, Bush was all about Middle East peace just a couple months ago. Where did that go? Call me crazy, but peace does not come from selling weapons. That’s kind of counterproductive in my opinion.

AND, I have a book that I think you would enjoy: “Animal, Vegetable, Miracle” by Barbara Kingsolver. It’s about the food industry - scary stuff, but really good!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Ms. G,

Here’s an exit poll from the 2004 election. It’s a CNN poll, so I think most libs would put 100% faith in it.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Some good information in there, but not very surprising. I think most people already know the trends they show data for. In this one, those who have served in the military voted for Bush 57% to 41% for Kerry. Kinda shocking considering Kerry had such a stellar military record and Bush was nothing but a draft dodging drunk, eh?

I don’t have time to look for the absentee military ballot breakdown from the 2000 election in FL when the D’s tried to keep them from being counted, but I suspect they knew those votes would go to the R’s or they would have fought to count them. You could look it up to, but I supsect you won’t because you don’t want the bad news any more than Gore did.

Enjoy the FACTS, Ms. G.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Ms. G,

Here’s an exit poll from the 2004 election. It’s a CNN poll, so I think most libs would put 100% faith in it.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Some good information in there, but not very surprising. I think most people already know the trends they show data for. In this one, those who have served in the military voted for Bush 57% to 41% for Kerry. Kinda shocking considering Kerry had such a stellar military record and Bush was nothing but a draft dodging drunk, eh?

I don’t have time to look for the absentee military ballot breakdown from the 2000 election in FL when the D’s tried to keep them from being counted, but I suspect they knew those votes would go to the R’s or they would have fought to count them. You could look it up to, but I supsect you won’t because you don’t want the bad news any more than Gore did.

Enjoy the FACTS, Ms. G.

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

David Letterman Presents: The Bush Administration, 26 Percent and Falling [VIDEO]

By Paul

January 15, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

Sent my last, saw yours, here’s one last before I go.

It’s a tough situation. Really, this deployment thing has been an issue only since Iraq - before that, the remote tours were a lot, lot less. A couple in a career, in many cases. But this recent development is “the way it is” from your perspective.

You’ll have to ask him - depending on his MOS - these year-long assignments - will they be at all under his control, if he doesn’t volunteer will they be every four or five years? Or can he get postings elsewhere - DC - and have long assignments there?

I went to look at a vehicle a while back. Sales guy was a trainee. Middle age. We got to talking while his boss was going through the bad cop routine. He said he had a son, mid twenties, married, two kids, who’d gotten out of the Army after one or two enlistments. Guy said his wife was relieved, happy, didn’t like her son in the Army. Said their son came to them and said he was going back in (which he’d already done). Said his biggest reasons were, he was finally in a group where the color of his skin was irrelevant. His actions were what counted. Plus he liked being part of something larger than himself, where he felt a real sense of brotherhood (or whatever the proper term is when men and women are in the same outfit - but you get the point).

So while the current time away scenario may not always be the norm, it’s what it is now. But may not always be.

Good luck.

By DebbieDoRight

January 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

[[The clintons have betrayed their African American supporters many times. Money that should have been used to uplift the Black community was diverted by the Clintons to Israel to repay the zionist supports of zipper boy. Hillary hates and dispises men, especially black men, because of their sexual accomplishments]]

Zipper boy? LMAO!! Can’t stop laughing, can’t stop……!!!

This was the Joke of the Day right? I mean no SANE, RATIONAL, THINKING person would actually write something like this unless it was joke right? RIGHT??!!! ROTFL!!

By Dubya

January 15, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Our alcoholic Leader, his arms full of arms, now begs anyone in the Middle East who will humor him, for “help.” While ratcheting up an “incident” w Iraqi “ships” at sea. A frightened, trembling America is a pro-Repug America. 7 years of fear so far. God bless Murcuh. Allah Akbar!

By Profit

January 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

IF YOU ARE A MAN, HILLARY IS A DIRECT THREAT TO YOUR WALLET AND YOUR POWER. WE MUST ALL PLEDGE OUR SELVES, OUR FORTUNES, AND OUR SACRED HONOR TO HER DEFEAT. DESTROY THE HAG AND HER DY KE S AT THE BALLOT BOX!!!

By DebbieDoRight

January 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

The pollsters were asked if they’d EVER served in the military — not if they were CURRENTLY serving. So, basically some or MOST of the people who answered the questions by the poller could’ve served at any time in the military from WWII to Present.

Mrs. G’s question was concerning the CURRENT rank and file of the military and how THEY’D vote in the present and how they’ve voted in the past (2004).

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

The sad reality is that if one of those Iranian speed boats had been packed with explosives and slammed into one of our ships you “know it all” libs would be on here b!tching about how Bush should have known better after the Cole and blown up the speed boats before they got close to our ships.

By Midori

January 15, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Getalife: Dan Abrams did an excellent report on this media-manufactured non issue last night.

See Media behind racial dust-up?

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnet

Great link thanks.

However, I don’t think that’s representative of current trends.

See this article on a December Bllomberg/LA Times poll

It says, “When it comes to candidates in next year’s presidential election, military families are less reliably Republican than in earlier campaigns. Two Democrats, Senators Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois run slightly ahead of former Republican Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney among those voters, and both Democrats trail only slightly former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. “

I suspect what was FACT in 2004 may be history in 2008.

It will be a very interesting election year!

By Profit

January 15, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Clinton is White Supremacist, and, of course, votes of White Supremacists belong to her solidly. I know it by my own experience here in Illinois, where the organization of White Supremacists in Peoria has been always exhibiting the solid support for her and all her actions. The members of this organization had been widely active, while Clintons had been in White House. I do not think, therefore, that any White person with conscience and anti- racist approach should ever vote for Mrs. Clinton.

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Paul (for when you return),

Okay, I see the whole “the Saudis are nervous” point. I probably would be too, but the Saudis just seem slick to me (no oil pun inteneded). Don’t they already have the biggest army in the ME behind Israel?

This is the thing I don’t get. If the leaders of Iran or any other country in the world just one day woke up and said, “Let’s bomb the hell out of [insert country name here], come on, it will be fun” wouldn’t every country in the known world come to the aid of the country who was attacked?

War is about money, economics, and resources, it always has been, and in today’s world, it doesn’t matter who actually has the guns, well, kind of, but I think you know what I’m trying to say here, I hope so, because I’m not real sure that I do. Sometimes I have a hard time writing out my thoughts.

And I think you are right about Ahmadijead (?sp). But everyone knows he’s a nut. Right?

I have a military buddy (been in almost 20 years) who told me that one of Clinton’s biggest mistakes was selling off weapons during his tenure.

By RW (the bidet)

January 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

That’s right, RW, and if little green men on mars had giant schlongs you’d be an astronaut. Stick with reality, sir, and maybe your dizzy little head wont spin so much.

RW: “Yeah! Duh, you libs probably…duh… if a giant came and pooped on an aircraft carrier, would Scream, “Godzilla!” and run away, man, duhhhh”

moron. idiot.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 10:25

http://intelligence.senate.gov/members108thcongress.html

In 2003-2004, the Senate Intel Committee included D’s Rockefeller, Levin, Feinstein, Wyden, Durbin, Bayh, EDWARDS, and Mikulski. It’s all republicans????? Did you really write that?

Are you really trying to tell us those 8 Democrats are so stupid they let the rest of the comittee meet without them to review intel leading us up to a war? And they never said a thing?

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

RW:

I dont think anyone much less on this post would celebrate one of our ships being blown up. It amazes me that the GOP lovers think nobody is patriotic but them. Funny i dont remember any Dem supporters en mass claiming that the WTC attack was about Bush being a bad president. We all found out after the attack that he wasnt up for the job. Saw you live in Ft. Lauderdale, lived there 8 years and loved it, What part to you live in?

By DebbieDoRight

January 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

[[So while the current time away scenario may not always be the norm, it�s what it is now. But may not always be. Good luck.]]

Thanks Paul. I just REALLY didn’t want to be a military wife. My mother was one for years, and I remember her having to do everything by herself when my father was deployed somewhere which was only a short term assignment, (Korea, Okinawa, etc.) and didn’t require families to emigrate. It was no picnic and I learned from her example and decided at a young age, I didn’t want to be another abandoned military wife. Of course, that’s exactly what happened!! History repeating itself and all that…..

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Ahem, RW (the bidet)

Please do not use the family name in vain!

Try picking on Mothra, Gamera and Barugon!

By DebbieDoRight

January 15, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

[[I have a military buddy (been in almost 20 years) who told me that one of Clinton�s biggest mistakes was selling off weapons during his tenure]]

What does Iran-Contra, Reagan, Poindexter and Ollie North all have in common?

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Wsfw,

Since you supposedly spent time in intelligence can you show me where I said anything about anybody celebrating one of our ships being blown up?

For that matter could you show me where I ever said I lived in Ft. Lauderdale?

Crack intelligence talent you’ve got there.

By Achmed and Habib from Saudi Arabia

January 15, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

We love president Bush and America. We have always loved President Bush and America. And now we have 20 billion more reasons to love President Bush and America. Trust us, we will never use YOUR weapons aaginst America or your troops. Why, you have our word. By the way, do you have any spare nucular weapons for sale?

Your friends as always, Achmed and Habib

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

{{{{The wink-and-nod allusion to Mr. Obama’s admitted past drug use by Black Entertainment Television founder and Ku Klux Klintoon supporter Robert Johnson on Sunday, and Mr. Johnson’s less-than-credible explanations afterward. If Mr. Johnson believes that youthful drug use should be an issue, let him say so. His veiled jabs only serve to stoke the theory that the Ku Klux kampaign is subtly playing the race card, and Ms. Klux should be a lot clearer that she won’t accept that.}}}}

Maybe she “accepts” those kind of tactics, no?

{{{{What Obama sees as unfortunate and what Edwards disagrees with is the truth. King stirred the nation and rallied people to the civil rights movement, yet it took Johnson to use his considerable influence to get Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act the following year.}}}}

{{{{Ku Klux is not insulting King�s memory on Sunday she said he should receive the lion�s share of the credit she is pointing out the reality: It takes a president to make things happen in Washington.}}}}

Yep, “influence:”

{{{{LBJ’s explanation of why he backed the Civil Rights Act of 1957: “These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”}}}}

So Ku Klux Klintoon is praising a bigot?

That’s what you libs have finally spun this out to be?

Remember Trent Lott?

Duh.

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Debbie,

Yes, I know it wasn’t just Clinton. I wish we’d develop our weapons and keep them hidden and all to ourselves!

I’m kind of partial to thse pictures of Rumsfeld and Saddam all buddy, buddy.

Sorry about your situation, you have my sympathies.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

‘Send Lawyers, Peace and Money’: New Hampshire Election Contests Get Technical, Testy Before They Even Begin Election Integrity Experts Converge and Join Both Republican and Democratic Candidates in Quest for Transparency New Hampshire Secretary of State Questioned About Documentation, Poll Records and Diebold Memory Cards…

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

Some people have no respect. Geez.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

RB:

Yes there were dems on that committee but it was lead by a GOP. Here some more info for you:

Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has asked the White House for the CIA assessment, the PDB of September 21, 2001, and dozens of other PDBs as part of the committee’s ongoing investigation into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the run-up to war with Iraq. The Bush administration has refused to turn over these documents.

Indeed, the existence of the September 21 PDB was not disclosed to the Intelligence Committee until the summer of 2004, according to congressional sources. Both Republicans and Democrats requested then that it be turned over. The administration has refused to provide it, even on a classified basis, and won’t say anything more about it other than to acknowledge that it exists.

So if they hid this what else did they hide. I will tell you why the Dems didnt protest, they were spineless and didnt want to be called unpatriotic, so they have a hand in this also, but not a big a hand and Dubyas lackies…

By Profit

January 15, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

All men must oppose Hillary - She hates men - She luvs GAY women and will put them in power over men - Hillary will tax men to benefit women - Men must oppose Hillary at all costs. The military hates Hillary, and there will be mass retirements of officers and senior enlisted men the day she is elected.

By Sting

January 15, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

If one more person types, “Geez”.

NEW RULE: NO ONOMATOPOEIA.

and rw, quit swinging at everything. “Geez, that blogger misrepresented what I wrote, I didn’t say that, duh, that’s not fair. “

You’re scaring me, man.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

RW;

Thought i read a blog from you last week about Ft. Lauderdale, i apologize. Well you said :

“The sad reality is that if one of those Iranian speed boats had been packed with explosives and slammed into one of our ships you �know it all� libs would be on here b!tching about how Bush should have known better after the Cole and blown up the speed boats before they got close to our ships.”

So your basically saying that the Dems wouldn’t be shocked by this act but to quickly blame bush, pretty much the same thing, thinking GOP is better at Dems on terrorism. And yep i was in intel, and if you would like to see some of my work watch your credit report in the next couple of months…..

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Sting,

Rules are lame.

Geez! Swish! Zoink! Tlot-tlot (horse hooves)! Ding Dong! Pow! Fizzzz! Kerplunk!

Ha! Take that!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

By Mrs. Godzilla 10:59 AM

Trends always change, but until the next election what we have to go by is actual historical data, which even your post says was more decidedly Republican in past elections. And I wouldn’t put too much stock in polls, if you know what I mean.

Your comment from earlier today was yet another cheap shot against the military you claim to support (but not the war). You libs need to give up your thought they are a bunch of mindless victims who were signed up against their will and are over there killing women and children. I really don’t think the appreciate that kind of “support”. I know I wouldn’t.

By TW

January 15, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Many thanks to Congress for deeming the game of baseball more sacred than the life of a United States Soldier.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Wsfw,

Is there anything that the Dems don’t immediately blame on Bush?

Should I check the credit report under my Florida ID or the one in Massachusetts. What is it with you morons and your empty threats?

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

RW:

Most of what i see they blame Bush on he has brought on himself. Now they do sound like chicken hawks on things that have no merit, but i dont think they are near as bad as the GOP was toward Clinton, and nope i didnt vote for Clinton either time…

And the credit thing was a joke, one we used to use around the office. Doesnt matter which state your credit report is on you not on where you live. Since your from Mass. i take it you are in the Ft. Meyers area…

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 11:36 AM

Give it up, fool. After the BS you’ve posted here, nobody believes you were in intel. You can claim it all you want, though, that is your right to do so. It’s also our right to prove you a fool every time you post more BS.

BTW, was that “highly classified” information you posted ealier released for distribution? I would think a 15 year intel man would know better than to repeat it.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

{{{{Doesnt matter which state your credit report…}}}}}

No kidding! Gawd you’re a dolt. Did you notice I said different ID’s?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 11:36 AM

Give it up, fool. After the BS you’ve posted here, nobody believes you were in intel. You can claim it all you want, though, that is your right to do so. It’s also our right to prove you a fool every time you post more BS.

BTW, was that “highly classified” information you posted ealier released for distribution? I would think a 15 year intel man would know better than to repeat it.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

RB;

I dont care what you believe. I know what i have done in my career and what you think of me is of no concern to me. You just proved that you dont want to hear anyone elses take or experiences because it differs from what is in your mind, for that i feel sorry for you. So who is the real fool?

RW;

Unless you have 2 different names on those id’s then yes you would have to search both. If it makes you feel better to call someone names then go for it. IF you have 2 different ID’s with 2 different names, then maybe law enforcement should get involved.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

It only took a year, but the Pelosi regime finally has an accomplshment.

Newly ascendant Democrats may have hit roadblocks on Iraq and fiscal issues, but they have revamped congressional menus, replacing fatty, pre-made foods with healthier, gourmet alternatives. The once dreary congressional cafeterias now abound with haute cuisine.

And what was the staff saying about the change?

{{{{�It�s a big jump from high school cafeteria to fancy-pants gourmet. I just wish my pay improved,� said Caryn Schenewerk, a staffer for Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).}}}}

By elmer fudd

January 15, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

i smells me a huge wat

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Wsfw,

Turn me in then. I don’t believe I called you any names, I merely provided an accurate description of you and didn’t mince words. Isn’t recess about over?

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

“By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this By W stands for worst 11:36 AM

Give it up, fool.”

Yes, indeed, the party of tolerance.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett

Just remember one persons “cheap shot” is anothers “sucker punch” is anothers fairly landed left jab.

Besides, I would have to disagree with your interpretation.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Where’s the outrage, or is that just reserved for Fox?

{{{{{LAS VEGAS - NBC News said Monday it will appeal a judge’s ruling rather than include Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich in a candidates’ debate in Nevada.}}}}}

{{{{{“We disagree with the judge’s decision and are filing an appeal,” said a statement provided by Jeremy Gaines, a vice president for MSNBC, sponsor of Tuesday night’s debate. Gaines said the parent network would seek an immediate hearing before the Nevada Supreme Court.}}}}}

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

RW:

Well thanks for confirming that when confronting GOP supporters especially Dubyas, when you have no comeback for information provided you turn to name calling. Isnt it bingo time in the home?

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

RB:

What highly classified info did i give?

By Can't Resist

January 15, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Perhaps the outrage over Kucinich’s treatment in Nevada cannot be found on Fox, Little Green FootBalls, Townhall, National Review or Newsmax.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Wstw,

You haven’t posited any information or made any inquiry of me other than making your threat/joke. Exactly what do you think you’re lacking a response to?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Flashback to Silky Pony v1.0

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Im outraged, i think every candidate no matter how much money raised or their rankings in the polls deserves to be heard…

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

OK, where’s the outrage here on ml’s blog. I keep forgetting how dense some of you are.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wsfw,

A closer review does indicate that you asked me where I live and I didn’t tell you. Some spook you are!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I heard an official from either the DA’s office or the Sheriff’s office in the case of the murdered Marine in North Carolina answering reporters questions this morning. At the end of one answer he said, “and I think that’s about all I’ve got to say about that.”

Isn’t that straight out of Forrest Gump?

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

RW;

I guess your Alzheimer’s is acting up. I was in Intel, not anymore. So im not privy to personal info. I also said you probably are in Ft. Meyers and you didnt deny that so im sure that is where you are..And i never said i was going to post your info. Whats it like to be a legend in your own mind???

By Can't Resist

January 15, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

That’s ok RW.

The rest of us are aware of how vague you can be.

Can’t say we’ve seen much outrage here. Of course I have not seen any serious support here either. Maybe it’s like Ron Paul. There isn’t much outrage from you over his treatment. But you don’t support him.

By @@

January 15, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Not you too ml!!!!

I can’t believe you used the word “shuffle” in this cartoon.

The Democratic party can fool me once and it’s shame on them…but fool me twice? No sir…

I’ve gotta believe dems knew what they were talking about when they said for years that Bill Clinton was the best thing about their party. I believed it once myself.

Mmmmm…mm…mm…mm…mmm

By mm

January 15, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

RB,

You should really stop listening to Hannity, Limbaugh, and Coulter. Here are your “thoughts” for the day.

{{{Funny how you get so upset when the D�s are called racist, but you don�t seem to mind when the label is tossed in the direction of R�s.}}}

{{{That would be much funnier if the military didn�t already vote decidedly Republican.}}}

{{{Here�s an exit poll from the 2004 election. It�s a CNN poll, so I think most libs would put 100% faith in it.}}}

{{{You libs need to give up your thought they are a bunch of mindless victims who were signed up against their will and are over there killing women and children.}}}

All you do is spout stereotypical Democrat BS (not facts). But you are the poster child for GOP stereotypes.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama is a member of Chicago�s Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama�s spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright�s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said �truly epitomized greatness.� That man is Louis Farrakhan.

{{{{{Maybe for Wright and some others, Farrakhan �epitomized greatness.� For most Americans, though, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism. Over the years, he has compiled an awesome record of offensive statements, even denigrating the Holocaust by falsely attributing it to Jewish cooperation with Hitler � �They helped him get the Third Reich on the road.� His history is a rancid stew of lies.}}}}}

Those excerpts are from Richard Cohen in the Washington Post, but I’m linking through HotAir for the other links contained there.

If you want the Washington Post article alone, here it is.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett:

This will show you how the Bush admin had mishandled info worse than any other admin on record:

When the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran was released late last year, reporting that the nation’s intelligence agencies had concluded that Iran shelved its nuclear weapons program four years ago, Bush responded with some serious verbal jujitsu, trying to make the case that the report actually vindicated his white-hot hostility toward that regime. Newsweek, reporting that Bush had “all but disowned the document” in private conversations with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert last week.

Fred Kaplan writes for Slate: “For the president of the United States to wave away the whole document … is gratuitous and self-destructive.

“Then again, such behavior is of a piece with the pattern of relations between President Bush and his intelligence agencies. In September 2004, when he was asked about a pessimistic CIA report on the course of the occupation in Iraq, Bush replied that the agency was ‘just guessing.’”

Kaplan sees all sorts of irony in the present situation. “In decades past, the CIA has often lost credibility as a result of its own failures and scandals. Now President Bush is splashing doubt not just on the CIA, but on all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, simply because their judgments are out of synch with his policies.”

Then there’s the fact that “this NIE is the product of reforms that President Bush himself signed into law — the creation of a director of national intelligence and various other procedural changes — designed to keep intelligence analysis free of political interference.”

Kaplan writes that Bush’s reaction “can’t help but demoralize the intelligence community.” And it also “reinforces the widespread view that the president views intelligence strictly as a political tool: When it backs up his policies, it’s as good as gold; when it doesn’t, it’s ‘just guessing.’ This result is that all intelligence is degraded and devalued, at home and abroad.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Wsfw,

In your spare time you might want to check out a dictionary and see if you can find out the difference between post and posit.

I see you’re now capitalizing Intel, so were you the janitor at the chip manufacturer?

I haven’t denied being the Prince of Monaco either. Does that mean I am?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 12:52 PM

{{{What highly classified info did i give?}}}

{{{Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told ——>in a highly classified briefing<—— that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.}}}

Two questions. If what he as told is highly classified, how do you know what was said? If what he was told is highly classified, and you’re a 15 year intel guy, why are you divulging it?

Lightweight…

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

John McCain�s much-discussed appearance at Jerry [tag]Falwell[/tag]�s [tag]Liberty[/tag] University is tomorrow morning. Chances are, more reporters will be on hand for this than any other [tag]commencement[/tag] in Liberty history. At a minimum, the political world will be watching to see the extent to which McCain is willing to sell out for a shot at the presidency. Just as a refresher, let�s not forget that less than six years ago, [tag]McCain[/tag] (accurately) described Falwell as an �[tag]agent of intolerance[/tag]� who had a �corrupting influence� on politics in America. A day later, McCain said Falwell had an �evil influence� over the [tag]Republican[/tag] Party.

By getalife

January 15, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

It’s the economy stupid.

You know we are in trouble when China declines saving Citicorp. Print more money and the price of gold skyrockets.

Yahoo!

w begged the Saudis to increase production of oil to lower prices but they turned him down cold. They got us by the balls and are squeezing hard.

Ouch.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

RW;

Nope but you are the prince or moronica. I guess your mind is melting down because now you are making no sense. Why dont you go to sanibel and pick up some sea shells and get ready for the early bird……

By Lackaballs

January 15, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

getalife,

that explains me!

By Quick google search finds:

January 15, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.

RB,

Don’t you know a news article when you see one? Moron.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

By mm 1:29 PM

Apparently you didn’t read the facts I provided to support my comments??? Not surprising. You never seem to want to let facts get in the way of your opinions.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

RB:

Without looking on the internet do you know what a COMSEC clearance is? And i didnt divulge anything that hasnt been posted. Obvious you dont use the internet to check anything…If you did you would find the same thing i posted. Did you think i have some secret document stash i only release for pro Bushies? Your dumber than i thought…

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

By mm 1:29 PM

Apparently you didn’t read the facts I provided to support my comments??? Not surprising. You never seem to want to let facts get in the way of your opinions.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

RB:

One thing i notice about you, when confronted with real facts you start the question the person providing those facts. I have yet to see you say anything that disputes what i have written….

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 1:38 PM

There you have it! It was in Newsweek, so it must be true!

Question for you WSFW. What was the NIE’s position on Iran’s nuclear program in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006? I do believe they thought the program was alive and well during those years, correct? And then in 2007, they claim it ended in 2003. So they’ve been wrong about the program 4 of the last 5 years, but now they’ve got it right? I think I’d be a little suspect of the reports too if I’d just been told to “forget about what we’ve been telling you for the last 4 years, this is correct”. Oh, and btw, sorry about that bad intel on the WMD’s too. My bad…

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 1:38 PM

There you have it! It was in Newsweek, so it must be true!

Question for you WSFW. What was the NIE’s position on Iran’s nuclear program in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006? I do believe they thought the program was alive and well during those years, correct? And then in 2007, they claim it ended in 2003. So they’ve been wrong about the program 4 of the last 5 years, but now they’ve got it right? I think I’d be a little suspect of the reports too if I’d just been told to “forget about what we’ve been telling you for the last 4 years, this is correct”. Oh, and btw, sorry about that bad intel on the WMD’s too. My bad…

By mm

January 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

RB,

Fact - A fact is defined as something that is the case, something that actually exists, or something that can be verified according to an established standard of evaluation.

Opinion - A person’s ideas and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment, judgment or evaluation of something. An opinion is not a fact, because opinions are either not falsifiable, or the opinion has not been proven or verified.

Please note the difference. You present your opinions as fact and everyone else’s facts as opinions. Hope this helps.

By getalife

January 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

RB,

You are getting punked as usual.

Good one Lackaballs.

Bwa.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Would someone please let me know why this dimwit thinks I live in Florida?

Wsfw,

My Florida/Massachusetts quip was in response to your threat/joke. It’s RE that says he lives in or around Ft. Lauderdale.

You know by your logic you didn’t deny you had been the janitor at Intel so it must be so.

I swear I get more intelligent responses from my pet rabbit than I do from you.

Later!

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

RB:

To answer your question on the Iran intel. Here is the thing at it was the same during the cold war. We dont have any agents in Iran, so we cannot verify what we think we know. So intel may have thought it was still there and Iran could have destroyed it. I will give you an example. In 82 we deposed and ex KGB officer who claimed the Soviets had a train that could launch ICBMS. Now we had some intel on RR tracks that ended at a mountain but couldnt figure out why. Even after this ex agent gave us the info we still were skeptical even though the Reagan admin was looking for anything to expand Star Wars. I give them credit they didnt take it and run, because 6 months later our sats picked up a photo of a train with one of its cars opened with an ICBM pointed straight at the sky. Lesson here, always wait on hunches until you have definitive proof.

And RW the reason i think your in Florida is that is where all the senile northerners go to die.. so RIP

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:04 PM

{{{One thing i notice about you, when confronted with real facts you start the question the person providing those facts. I have yet to see you say anything that disputes what i have written�.}}}

What real facts? Do you have some sort of proof of what Bush was told and by whom out of highly classified meetings? You have opinions, not facts. People go to jail for divulging highly classified secrets (and outing COVERT agents too, but that’s a different lie from the left). Who went to jail for telling you and Newsweek about Bush’s secret meetings? Where is the furor over the Dems being left out of their own senate intelligence meetings as you claim and being denied access to intel? You keep making these stupid statements without thinking about what would happen in our government if things had actually happened this way. They didn’t.

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Huck: We Need To Amend The Constitution, Bring It In Line With God

EEEEK!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:29 PM |

If we have no agents in Iran, how do we now have “difinitive proof”??

Let me guess, they don’t have a nuclear program because Imanutjob said so! There’s your proof!!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:29 PM |

If we have no agents in Iran, how do we now have “difinitive proof”??

Let me guess, they don’t have a nuclear program because Imanutjob said so! There’s your proof!!

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

RB spouts:

“People go to jail for divulging highly classified secrets (and outing COVERT agents too, but that�s a different lie from the left)”

Yeah oh Scooter did a lot of jail time. And yes the CIA confirmed she was an undercover agent…

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

ITN,

“[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it’s a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God, and that’s what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards,”

Double EEEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!!! and throw in an “Oh SH!T!!”

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

RB:

First you dont have to post twice, i know computers can be tricky. Couple of things. Didnt you find it amazing that when Sec Powell was addressing the UN the main thing he spoke of was the mobile weapons lab. But he showed a cartoon drawing of the lab, not a sat photo. That was the first clue. Second when no agents are on the ground, sat imaging and defectors are who provide info. Problem is the defectors will tell you anything to come into this country. That is why CURVEBALL is probably running a Holiday Inn in Bethesda for his crack intelligence work. So both parties are to blame on the intel,they should have stood up to the WH but for whatever reason they cowed down to them, That is why i say vote them all out, both parties and start over. what im saying about bush is they showed congress cherry picked intel instead of the whole package. That is what bothered and still bothers the intel community.

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Double EEK, an Oh Sh1T and a major what the hell!

Thankfully, he’ll never be President!

By GWB

January 15, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Cesar Armando Laurean, USMC. Hero. Patriot. Born-again Christian. Surge onward!

By Just Curious

January 15, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

I am just curious. Was anyone here offended by Hillary’s comments about MLK and LBJ?

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

GWB,

AND Eddie Paulk, super Christian! Is there no end to these religious freaks and sex scandals? Maybe if they would just admit that sex isn’t a bad thing, and just go with it, they wouldn’t have such “issues.”

Haven’t they caught that Laurean guy yet?

By Midori

January 15, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

WONDER what was his first clue?

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Iraq projections have gotten worse since “surge”

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

The Bush administration, in its last so-called Iraq “benchmark” report, used questionable financial data to assert that the Baghdad government was making progress in managing its budget, a new study says.

SURPRISE!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:55 PM

{{{Yeah oh Scooter did a lot of jail time. And yes the CIA confirmed she was an undercover agent�}}}

No, WSFW, they didn’t. The CIA said she was a secret agent, however in their world there is a difference between being covert and secret. There is a distinction in pay grades and pensions. Those elements of her status were never released and were never asked for by the prosecutors. Scooter was accused and convicted of lying to the investigators. Through the entire process, the prosecutors avoided the issue of whether or not she was covert. It was never part of the trial. If she had been covert, outing a covert agent is a felony and those sharing her identity would have been charged. Why was nobody charged with outing her? They knew she wasn’t covert and didn’t address that issue because they knew it would destroy their case against Libby.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 2:55 PM

{{{Yeah oh Scooter did a lot of jail time. And yes the CIA confirmed she was an undercover agent�}}}

No, WSFW, they didn’t. The CIA said she was a secret agent, however in their world there is a difference between being covert and secret. There is a distinction in pay grades and pensions. Those elements of her status were never released and were never asked for by the prosecutors. Scooter was accused and convicted of lying to the investigators. Through the entire process, the prosecutors avoided the issue of whether or not she was covert. It was never part of the trial. If she had been covert, outing a covert agent is a felony and those sharing her identity would have been charged. Why was nobody charged with outing her? They knew she wasn’t covert and didn’t address that issue because they knew it would destroy their case against Libby.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Midori 3:49

“I can’t be open-minded about Palestinian peace, and yet I’m the only president ever to have articulated a two-state solution.”

Well, he does have a point there -

ITN 3:57

“All of the Democratic presidential candidates have promised a swift American withdrawal…”

Not exactly. Or possibly the NYTimes simply uncritically accepts some creative uses of the term “withdrawal.”

ITN 4:04

LOLOLOLOL!!! Thanks, I needed that!

Now maybe the critics will tell us with a straight face, that Congress and the Executive that the budget reports of the US government are based upon generally accepted accounting standards! What’s good for the goose…

Really, that’s the best one you’ve posted in a long time.

RB from Gwinnett

Excuse my interjection, but if memory serves me correctly, Novak reported she worked at the CIA. It was her husband, a few days later, interviewed by a guy who runs a political blog, who stated she was “covert.” And we all know how quickly reporters and politicians took action to define the accuracy of that claim.

Now I think I shall duck.

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Hostility towards John McCain among most leading conservative bloggers has been linked to the Arizona senator�s recent rise � the more McCain looks like the Republican frontrunner, the more conservatives express their ire.

AND THEN THERE”S THIS

Huckabee draws the right�s ire � for the wrong reason

By Just Asking

January 15, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Now who would a thinking person believe regarding the covert status of Valerie Plame Wilson?

The Central Intelligence Agency

or

RB from Gwinnett?

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

RB:

” Waxman read a statement about Plame’s CIA career that had been cleared by CIA director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the CIA, stating that she was undercover and that her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.”

There you go, the info should never have been released. If you or i would have done this we would be in jail. And what is up with the double postings?????

By IN THE NEWS

January 15, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Glad to see you think my posts are funny.

I’d hate for you to think that yours were the only ones we all laughed at.

By @@

January 15, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

I found Hillary’s comments about MLK belittling. LBJ would have had nothing to do absent the brave efforts of MLK.

LBJ would have been a tiny footnote in history. He was an opportunistic democrat in other words. Dr. King took the risks. LBJ took political credit.

This is just a public service announcement—nothing disparaging against gays. I know that some here have professed to being so…

Drug-resistant staph passed in gay sex -US study

SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 14 (Reuters) - A drug-resistant strain of potentially deadly bacteria has moved beyond the borders of U.S. hospitals and is being transmitted among gay men during sex, researchers said on Monday.

19,000 Americans died of this staph infection in 2005.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Just Asking

Without rehashing it again, and I did save the letter from, I believe General Hayden, to the committee - CIA did not expressely state Ms Plame was acting in a covert status at the time of the disclosure, nor did he state her status met the requirements of the definition under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

The letter, and comments by Waxman, struck me as masterful examples of bureaucrat-speak. In other words, it isn’t what was said, but what people thought they said.

Waxman could have told the CIA the committee intended to state the sun is green. Then at committee he could have said that and then stated his remarks were cleared by the CIA. “Cleared” does not necessarily mean “accurate, acceptable or approved.” Maddening, but that’s how they play the game.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

By Just Asking 4:24 PM

Look it up! While you’re doing that, ask yourself why nobody was charged with the felony of outing a covert agent? NOBODY. Not Armitage, Novak, Cheney, Rove, anybody. Why do you think that is?

By Paul

January 15, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

In the News

People laugh at my posts?!!? Perish the thought! This is a deadly serious business we’re engaged in here.

Actually, I really do love irony.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

By Just Asking 4:24 PM

Look it up! While you’re doing that, ask yourself why nobody was charged with the felony of outing a covert agent? NOBODY. Not Armitage, Novak, Cheney, Rove, anybody. Why do you think that is?

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The head of the CIA has stated numerous times that her outing was illegal and it jeopardized the WMD program. You guys remind me of the lawyer who after his client was busted with 20 kilos of coke says “oh its for personal use”. You guys can spin it how you want to but she may not have been James Bond but her outing served the Bush admin well.

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

RB:

The reason nobody was convicted of this was because of Scooters lies. Fitzgerald has stated many times that he was hot on Cheneys heels but the lies and stonewalling of Libby prevented him from finding the real truth. That is why Fitzgerald requested and received a harsher sentence for Scooter. Its not that they didnt try but lying wall of Cheney and Libby prevented him from finding the truth.

And speaking of Dubya stated many times he would get rid of whoever was responsible for the leak. Yet Karl Rove was allowed to still work in the WH even though it was proved that Rove also leaked her name. So bush is a LIAR…………. But we already knew that, you seem to be the only person in the world who thinks all dubya says is the truth….

By Paul

January 15, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

W for worst

What bothered me about the entire proceeding was a matter of law was ignored and politics reigned supreme. Determining her status from the beginning was a relatively simple exercise. Yet it was not done. If the statutes were weak and a case could not be brought, one would think the first order of business of a new Democratic Congress would be to revise the statutes? Yet they did nothing in that regard - they moved on to other issues. But at least the cafeteria has a new menu. One must keep one’s priorities straight.

Many actions that are immoral, unethical or downright dirty are not illegal. Some are. But that’s why we have laws. Just as those angry at the illegal immigrant situation say “we are a nation of laws” (another claim I find amusing) so those who are angry over the Plame affair cry out at the subversion of justice - yet cannot point to a statute that would have effected prosecution and conviction.

But Ms Valerie has moved on. So’s Karl. There’s a good lesson there -

By Joe Wilson

January 15, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

Valerie damn sure was James Bond!

I was Pu$$y Galore.

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Oh enough with the Plame thing! He said, she said, whatever!!!!!! If Wilson hadn’t written that article criticizing Bush and his cronies, none of this would have happened. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened.

Legal mumbo jumbo, spin, whatever.

W stands for worst,

She may not have been James Bond, but definitely one of his women!!!

Meow! :-)

Random thought of the day:

I’m suddenly in a bad mood. I feel old today. I used to love The Clash when I was younger, I just heard one of my favorite songs from them, and then realized just how long ago it was when that song came out!

ARRRGGHHH!!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

By W stands for worst 4:42 PM

It’s a felony, WSFW, why wasn’t anybody charged with it? If she was covert, she was outed by one of the crew mentioned or her husband. Why no charges? Could it be she wasn’t covert as defined by the law written to protect covert agents? It would have been very easy to prove she was covert based on the law, so why didn’t they do that and press charges?

Double post? It looks like I got one to post about 6 times earlier today. New record!!!!

By Paul

January 15, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Joe 4:52

Don’t let your wife know you have a thing for Honor Blackman -

By Just Asking

January 15, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

RB from the Gwinnett Cental Intelligence Agency:

Did look it up.

Plame was covert.

How many retainers of Brewster Jennings to you think have been killed?

You twit. If you can’t figure out why nobody was convicted of a felony by this current administration all by yourself you are even dumber than we all thought!

Jesus, you are the stupidist most naive lemming that was ever hatched!

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I couldn’t agree with you more. Politics trumped the law and the whole country lost….

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

RB,

Kind of like this: we all know OJ was guilty of killing his wife and that poor dude, but he didn’t go to jail.

Same thing.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

W for worst

Welcome to reality. And it shall continue.

Pessimist - looks at a situation and thinks “this is terrible! This is horrid! Things couldn’t get worse!”

Optimist - looks at the same situation and calmly, serenely knows, no matter how bad things look… they can always get worse.

I think possibly cynicism goes hand in hand with an appreciation of irony -

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 5:04 PM

Good point, but the difference is OJ was charged with the crime and the prosecution didn’t get the job done. In the Plame case, nobody was charged with outing her under the law that protects covert agents. The facts that support her being covert were never discussed as part of the case. Why would that be?

WSFW, Scooter Libby was convicted and sentenced by the same people you say wouldn’t charge anyone for outing an agent. Does that really make sense to you??? You really need to get your news from somewhere other than The View.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 15, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 5:04 PM

Good point, but the difference is OJ was charged with the crime and the prosecution didn’t get the job done. In the Plame case, nobody was charged with outing her under the law that protects covert agents. The facts that support her being covert were never discussed as part of the case. Why would that be?

WSFW, Scooter Libby was convicted and sentenced by the same people you say wouldn’t charge anyone for outing an agent. Does that really make sense to you??? You really need to get your news from somewhere other than The View.

By luckovichisaheadcase

January 15, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

This cartoon is good, but only because it tells a deeper truth. The fact is that the Democrats have always been racist, but it has often taken different forms. Hitlery slipped up and said what she really believes in her heart of hearts. It takes a white politician to ‘give’ these rights to the black and brown folks. Black folks can never really earn these things on their own. They just have to yearn for them until some smart white person deigns to help them. I will remind all of you conscending liberals that Bill Clinton’s chief mentor was the overtly racist and segregationist J. William Fullbright. His other mentor was Orville Faubus - do y’all remember Little Rock? I will remind you that Eisenhower was the Republican president who stood him down.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch � from your 11:03

The Saudis have a capable force. Others are larger � Iran, Egypt, Syria, last I checked. But bigger isn’t better. Look at Israel.

Although we fought alongside Arabs in Desert Storm, before the US took the lead, the response of the neighboring countries to Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait and threatening Saudi Arabia was tepid at best. Rather like I imagine ours would be if say, Belize invaded Guatemala.

I don’t think countries wake up one day and take such action. Some countries consider it years before taking action. Others have the force to intimidate to get regional objectives met. And countries tend to react to perceived threats, not just actual threats. So Iran, with their large military force, its unconventional organization (quasi military conducting unconventional operations throughout the region), it’s oil, it’s position on the Strait � plus their religious ideology, is a force to be reckoned with.

Ahmadinejad a nut? Sane. With views many find nutty. But take a sane person with nutty views, put him in charge of a country… and people think Huckabee would be a nightmare? Not even close -

Your last line � the Cold War was over. Russia imploded. Our military, doctrine and weapons were built largely around that engagement. Yet for years no service (save the Air Force) did any serious reorganizing, and none really even changed the type of weapons they were buying or had in the pipeline. One � the Osprey � that was designed for a lot of covert ops kinds of missions � took a lot of criticism. Only so many $$$ to go around. So I’ll briefly take the position we did not go far enough in adjusting to the new realities. And here’s the flame on the gas � when Rumsfeld came on board with his proposals to raise the status of special ops, stop the big-ticket weapons systems in the pipeline (designed for a Cold War scenario) � skip an entire generation of weapons, then see where technology and the world situation took us before committing more billions � he very nearly didn’t survive politically. Then came 9-11 and much of that fell by the wayside.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Bosch

All the it is contractions inserted instead of the possessive - I trust it wasn’t too distracting - just chalk it up to keyboard actuator input error.

Must keep things in perspective. Remember, tonight’s the two-hour season opener of American Idol. Always a good way to keep in touch with real America -

By W stands for worst

January 15, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

RB:

Learn to use a computer. Look at my 4:49 post that explains it. Oh sorry its not in large print like the books you are used to reading..

Also read Bosch’s 5:04 post, i think he wrapped this up pretty neatly.. Good job Bosch…

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You know, I don’t know if half the things you said are true, but I’ll trust you that they are, and give you the benefit of the doubt.

You make me feel stupid sometimes. :-)

I’m a peaceful kind of guy and the weapons we are selling the Saudis aren’t out of date.

During the 80’s I was jamming to the Clash, and early 90’s busy with my very small Boschkins finishing college, then grad school. I do remember watching the tanks rolling into Kuwait the day the oldest Boschkin was born.

I’ve never watched American Idol. I’d rather watch a nature show, you know, lions eating zebras, than that crap.

But you are right - it does put America into perspective as what’s important.

I think I’ll go get some vodka.

By bon scott

January 15, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett, could you PLEASE halt the multiple posts?? It’s bad enough reading your lies and fantasites once.

Or are you really that clueless and/or thoughtless??

Well, I can always look on the bright side. You’re a fine example of how vacant most GOPukes are.

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

RB,

Before I go get vodka for my perspective, I forgot to write:

Sometimes you can apply a simple smell test to situations, but I know that our sense of smells are different.

The Plame thing, it stinks, all the way around, just like Bush stinks, yes, all the way around.

Vodka anyone?

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

I want to say congratulations to Josh Marshall over at TPM.

His groups excellent reporting on the purge of US attorneys has absolutely nothing to do with being dropped from the DOJ press release list. They were assured of that after the appeal.

A good progressive p1sses off all the right people.

Anybody see any numbers on turn out?

Anybody see what’s happening with the Kucinich appeal in the Nevada Supreme Court?

God, I’m so proud to be an American.

By Glenn

January 15, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Paul, I appreciate your astute and faithful rendering of the recent history of U.S. defense posture, which reads like a professional and disinterested one prepared for policymakers.

As I followed your narrative, though, I mean, what of Stealth? From the Carter Administration on, a quiet development multiply applicable to any force and to multiple threat responses. And all kept tighter than a drum, and declassified in a climate still free of viable countermeasures. I think perhaps that program, and the submarine service and the enormous efforts and breakthroughs in satellite technology, represented sound, supra-partisan investment in durable security that could withstand the crushing disappointment (!) of the unanticipated Soviet collapse.

And wouldn’t the Chinese agree?

By Paul

January 15, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Bosch

You stupid? Hardly.

I’d never heard of the Clash. Nothing was the same after Abba.

If you ask a question, I’ll try to give opinion supported by facts. If not, if it’s just a gut reaction, I’ll say so.

And if I haven’t a clue I’ll do my best to make up something that sounds reasonable.

:-)

Oh - and for you, too, getalife, if you tune in - please set your recorder for O’Reilly tonight. Going to be on late - 11 or midnight - but I heard he’s having on six talk radio personalities - three con, three lib and is going to ask them about their standards of conduct. Should be interesting.

Vodka sounds very good about now. Thanks for the tip.

By @@

January 15, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

The UAE gets a french naval base. Saudi Arabia gets a reactor for peaceful purposes. Turkey’s pursuing the same…

France goes over to the Middle East and everyone’s getting nukey.

Viva la France.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

QUICK HAVE SOME FUN!

Glenn Beck’s website is polling which of his show should try waterboarding to see if it’s torture.

Guess who’s ahead?

GO VOTE!

Even if he says it isn’t torture after the process, he has the right ti find out for himself. Good for him.

I’d want to see the qualifications’of the operator. Just to be fair.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Dang finch,

Are you already sloshed?

Bosch,

No vodka for finchie.

RB,

What browser are you using if you don’t mind saying? Maybe we can figure out how to fix that posting thing.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

Stealth is an excellent example of a system that has applicability far past a Cold War scenario. God bless Lockheed and the Skunk Works. You are correct - it is amazing how the program was kept quiet, aircraft were developed, and the UFO watchers went absolutely nuts.

A point can be made for the submarine service - for certain types of boats. My broad generalization was for certain weapons systems. The Air Force’s F-22 program, for example. BTW - that aircraft is more stealthy than the F-117 Nighthawk that did the majority of missions over Baghdad in Desert Storm. The Army’s heavy systems. It took Rumsfeld to cancel the Crusader - a multibillion dollar howitzer designed for the plains of Europe. First time in eons a program’s been outright canceled. (I believe one of the Rumsfeld band of generals critics was a one-time head of that program…). Army’s reaction to the SecDef is also why we needed a new Secretary of the Army and a general or two.

But these programs take on a life of their own. People don’t get promoted for halting programs. And they detract from, oh, say, armored vehicles for urban warfare. Up-armored Hummers, anyone?

The Navy’s onto something with their proposals for stealth warships. Small ones. Heavy armament. Spaces for special ops forces.

There are rays of hope in all of this.

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Awww - good thing the liquor store is close…..and the liquor store guys know me by name, and refer to me as “the boss,” wait, is that bad?

Paul, Paul, ABBA? Muriel’s Wedding is one of my all time favorite movies. My daughter is THE Dancing Queen. Just to help with your music portfolio, try “London Calling.” It was released 18 years ago! Damn! That’s what is making me feel old right now.

The Clash got me interested in politics (well, and Father Bosch too - I’ll give him most of the credit). Just google their lyrics, not Father Bosch’s lyrics, but the Clash.

“If you ask a question, I�ll try to give opinion supported by facts. If not, if it�s just a gut reaction, I�ll say so.

And if I haven�t a clue I�ll do my best to make up something that sounds reasonable.”

Don’t you think that’s what all of us do here on this blog? Some of us are much better at it than others.

Mrs. G.

What’s up with Kucinich? Oh, your last line makes me want to sing Lee Greenwood! I recently met a guy who toured with Lee Greenwood. I think I’d just rather puke everyday, but hey, it’s a job, right?

@@,

One thing I’ve also never understood is why some reactors are for “peaceful purposes” and others aren’t.

By getalife

January 15, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Beck had butt surgery, left when the doctor told him not to , then whined about how he was treated when he came back.

I doubt you can teach RB anything.

I will pass on BO who thinks he is a Supreme Court Justice but told KO at kos that he totally destroyed BO’s mental health.

Hey, did you hear the one about the Filipino monkey?

Punked.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Turn out appears lower than expected.

Game Huckabee?

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Are the liquor store guys Indian? They seem to think we all like to be called Boss, at least around here.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Good Evening.

As weird as it sounds, I’m keeping an eye on my mother in laws ham.

MSNBC invited then dis-invited Dennis to the debate tonight. He went to court. About an hour ago he and lawyers from MSNBC were in the Nevada Supreme Court about it.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

“Thanks for the Music” reminds me of my daughter. She could sure belt it out.

My wife gave me satellite radio for the cars for Christmas. I finally figured out why - we hit reception dead spots on some of our regular trips and I’d default to ABBA cds. Another present a wife gives to her husband. But it’s really for her.

Thanks for the recommendation! Muriel’s Wedding just went to the top of my Netflix queue.

If you ever want a recommendation on a great software program that lets you make personal use copies of DVDs, let me know. Even encrypted ones. Haven’t had one yet it couldn’t bust. Even overseas regions.

Time’s getting close. Enjoy the election returns, all. And American Idol. RW - please let finchie have the vodka. Makes Idol even funnier.

By @@

January 15, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

I would like to take this opportunity to recognize two very dear friends of mine, both women.

One is in air transport—the other is in trucking. Both have contracts with the military in logistical support. The one in air transport needs a truck to get one of those new IED resistant Hummers to an airfield for transport to Iraq. She calls my friend in trucking. The one in trucking arranges for one of their drivers to immediately drop his full trailer in transit…pick up an empty and sends that truck to pick up the hummer for transport.

I asked my friend in trucking if that was a common request. “Not common” she said “just crucial”.

“When our guys need something NOW, we’ll move heaven and earth to get it to them.”

Behind the scenes and without recognition for the wonderful work they do. I’m more than happy to toot their horn. They don’t.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

Early exit polls say that about 68% of the vote in the Republican primary is from Republicans and most of the rest is from the Independents. It doesn’t appear at first blush that many Democrats crossed over and Romney is getting a big chunk of the Republican vote with McCain getting a majority of the Independents, but not by a huge margin. Huckabee seems to be lagging behind both of them in both groups.

If those early exit polls have any basis in reality it’ll be a good night for Mitt.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 15, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Oh,

and Bosch

Your post about the “smell test” was more eloquent than I think you know.

The prose of certain posters here is excellent, but doesn’t pass the smell test with me. I don’t have the time to investigate so I can’t accuse. Like you, I’ll just keep my Vicks handy.

Extra-ordinarily light turn out I’m hearing.

By Glenn

January 15, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Paul, that’s wonderful, to get such a succinct and informed update from this unexpected source. Thanks! I hadn’t been apprised of this stuff for some years, and I feel like you’ve brought us more than halfway up to speed already.

I think the moves to non-lethal, to very small and smart strike forces, to conventional-cabable platforms, and generally to larger quantities of smaller and cheaper systems over against the long trend toward a few gold-plated eggs in too few baskets (presumably to scare the Soviets in negotiations) — that all of those were shrewd investments. And even though i don’t share his politics I think that Bill Perry, Carter’s Undersecretary for Procurement (Stealth) and Clinton’s Deputy Secretary and then Secretary, should really share with Burbank a lot of credit for his foresight and resourcefulness. He was like a colorless Rickover of the air, I suppose.

But I take your meaning about our inexplicable myopia about something as basic as ground troop transport. Good Lord.

Not to detract at all from your guarded optimism, but when i think of the green gazillions and untold black gazillions spent on “stockpile stewardship”, I can’t help but think, how about one thousandth of that spent on IED countermeasures?

But this is the rankest armchair Monday-morning mourning. Sometimes I don’t know whether layman (as I now am) should assume a democratic duty to formulate informed opinions about such matters, or whether it’s futile to do so, or whether alternatively it’s really better left entrusted to the folks with the training and the really long G2’s.

I’d want Treasury to cut a blank check for a Kelly Johnson or a Ben Rich any day, but it seems to much to expect such utter discipline and professional commitment and sheer brilliance to continue. And after the Bear’s hibernation, what’s the point in Ike’s duplication of R&D, public vs. private, e.g. contractor operators of some labs and federal operation of others? Seems extravagant now.

By Paul

January 15, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Oh, go ahead and record it. It’d be interesting to see if there’s much difference between the cons and lib radio hosts.

He’s having three lib radio hosts? Must’ve cleaned out Air America.

@@

Pass on our appreciation to your friends, please. More than a few of us here (both “sides”) will be toasting them tonight.

By RW-(the original)

January 15, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Paul,

finch gets really incoherent and then starts emailing me pretending to be his wife in the middle of the night. If I can forward you all the email and let you deal with it he can have the vodka.

By LarryBlasko

January 15, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

Fools no longer rush in where angels fear to tread � they can�t shoulder their way past the pollsters. The current pollster chatter is the two big issues in the presidential race are the war in Iraq and the economy, with race on standby in case those predictions develop fatal New Hampshire disease.

With February 5 and �Tsunami Tuesday� primaries less than a month away, what you don�t hear is much talk about illegal immigration and what we do about 14-16 million souls, most Hispanic and mostly Mexican.

That�s very odd when you look at the Tsunami states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah. Illegal immigration has been an issue in all.

For some � notably Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado and New Mexico — it has been a Very Big Issue. Which is why the overwhelming silence from the frontrunners, punctuated by occasional projectile politicking, is so depressing.

Of the top six candidates who have yet to become trivia-quiz answers, only Huckabee puts illegal immigration at the top of his website list of issues. For the others, Clinton, Obama, Edwards, McCain and Romney, it doesn�t even make the top five. And for all six, the menu is pretty much Platitudes with Piety Salad or Red Meat With DeportEm Sauce.

All the politicians pretty much ignore that deciding the fate of 16 million fellow humans is also deciding our own, whether now or in the court we all will face. For this issue, there are no easy answers or simple plans. But there are, increasingly, frameworks for discussion, mostly in books.

I wrote one such, �Opening the Borders� (Level 4 Press 2007). Patrick Buchanan wrote another, �State of Emergency� (St. Martin’s Griffin 2007). And a search on Amazon or Barnes and Noble or other booksellers will find those viewpoints and everything in between.

All the books are probably candles in the political whirlwind, but when the 2009 presidential inauguration trash hits a landfill, the problem of illegal immigration will remain. And it will grow unless something is done that begins with thought and walks hand-in-hand with reason, fairness and a sense of common humanity.

It would be nice to see such an initiative coming from our current political leaders, but history suggests it must first come

By Paul

January 15, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

RW

Uh, hold the vodka.

Glenn,

Perry was a very smart visionary. I know many criticize bringing in some from allied private industry, but the right ones among them (such as Perry) bring a fresh perspective that’s sorely needed. And programs such as Stealth result.

I don’t mean this to be Monday morning backwards looking - but the system is supposed to be built upon forward-looking views of likely emerging threats. With the appropriate weapons following. It’s a good concept with a cumbersome system. I’d just like it to get better.

By Luckoduh

January 15, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

What, no Queen Pinko blogging tonite?

I thought the Urinal’s favorite candidate was McCain-Feingold, judging from all their heavy breathing about him, this could be his big night.

Plus their other fav, shaman Huckabee, could pull off a stunning upset, seeing how the pinkos have a choice between Ku Klux Klintoon and Un Committed, there could be some serious crossing over.

I mean, really, would you cast your vote for the racist?

Go Un Committed!

By getalife

January 15, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Paul,

He will scream over them and cut their mic.

I will read about it or watch KO.

Look for Romney to win tonight.

The Dems will vote for him like RW did to get rid of McKinney.

By Bosch

January 15, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

My mother in law could solve all world conflicts. All she’d need is Diet Coke and an actual ham. I had a wreck one time, my fault, and she was disturbed because I told her I was just turning into a convenient store to get a Diet Coke - addiction is an awful thing.

You are still my hero. You and Jimmy Carter.

Paul,

Muriel’s Wedding, great movie - Toni Collette is great, and she was in one of my new favorite movies, “Little Miss Sunshine.” My daughter took that movie to a friend’s house to watch, and we forgot that we aren’t normal parents (bad, bad words) - there were some complaints! Try also, “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape,” and “Moonstruck.” Watch those movies, along with Star Wars, and any Harry Potter movie and you’ll understand the Bosch world - sisters included. We Bosches have a tight favorite movie group.

RW,

Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you want to see it, they refer to me that way because I’m sure I pay a utility bill or two of theirs. Once, the other Bosch didn’t come in for a while, and the liquor store guys were worried. They were concerned for our health - go figure that.

Good night! Oh, Kerplunk, Zowie, and Pow, vodka is good!

By Tanya Kent

January 16, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

In the cartoon of Hillary and the race card, she is not that pleasant looking. Where are the bags under her eyes and she has a much fatter face and harder looking. In the full length cartoon of Hillary, her hips are should be huge. Don’t pretty her up.

By freiley

January 18, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

still can’t view poll results. Where is the new, improved poll?

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