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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2008 > January > 09 > Entry

Onward!

By Mike Luckovich | Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 08:30 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

Screaming Urinal headline:

{{{{DEATH TOLL IN IRAQ: Study: Violence claims 151,000 Iraqis}}}}

The first picture under this banner headline is United States soldiers in an eerie smoke filled room looking for something to kill and then the next photo is of an despondent Iraqi woman with her face buried in her hands. Finally, a 10 paragraph story follows, a story that makes absolutely no mention of al Qaeda, none.

Dearest Urinal: Instead of going through these elaborate propaganda efforts, why don’t you just make your headlines say: “Goon soldiers from United States prey on little Iraqi babies causing untold grief among the citizens and forces peace loving al Qaeda to blow up women and children.”

You know, what you are really trying to say.

~~~~~~

The Psychos of Sorrow wailing out another mating whine:

{{{{Worker confidence plunges: U.S. hits record low on survey; Atlanta’s numbers also down -The Whiny Times}}}}

{{{{ATLANTA BOAT SHOW: Riding choppy waters: Vendors are optimistic about boat sales despite shaky condition of economy, low lake levels in metro area. - Crying Jag}}}}

{{{{Market finishes with gains after seesaw day - (Up 146 points in the Dow, but we won’t tell you that!)}}}}

Jesus Moses, is everyone who works at the Atlanta Urinal stupid enough to have an adjustable rate mortgage and a part time job in real estate?

Are you libs and the only people you know in the world, total failures or what?

Or are you trying to influence the election?<————-!!!!!

~~~~~

{{{{In New Hampshire, Hillary saw a double digit-lead over Obama steadily wither to a two-point victory over him, and a shabby victory it was. She saw her husband flaying about, whining at press coverage, referring to Obama’s impressive rise to national prominence as a “fairytale” and his presidency as a “rolling of the dice.” Her campaign staff began to buckle. The New York Times reported the former Boy President was increasingly a soporific on the stump, and USA Today called him a “relic.” Hillary was reduced to tears just before the balloting began.}}}}

By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

The “bottom story of the day:”

{{{{“No amount of White House spin can hide the fact that the escalation’s chief objective of political reconciliation remains unmet, Iraqis have not demonstrated any readiness to stand up and take responsibility for their own country, and 2007 was the most lethal year yet for American troops,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.}}}}

Blah, blah, blah, like a wind up idiot doll, fully loaded up with ignorant, mindless things to spew.

Yeah, Harry, the United States Senate has been a stunning and marvelous success this year, why, let’s look back upon all of YOUR achievements, homey:

- - -

Oh, I found one, you spinelessly approved every single solitary troop increase and funding bill for Iraq, a war that you “oppose.”

STFU, YOU FILTHY, GUTLESS WONDERS, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE WAR THEN CUT OFF FUNDING YOU SERIOUS PUS-SIES, QUIT STABBING OUR TROOPS IN THE BACK.

POS.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

New Hampshire’s Polling Fiasco

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

The Bradley Effect Debunked?

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

9 US Soldiers Killed in Iraq in 2 Days

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

The Coming Double Dip Recession

By w00t

January 10, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Hey, luckolame, the truth hurts doesn’t it. Onward mighty keyboard hero!

By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

The “front” runner in the democratic race for president of the United States is a two faced, lying, political hack who only thinks of herself and her ambitions for ultimate power, when she speaks of Iraq’s future no one knows for sure what she said, her included, and what came from it’s lying mouth was planted their only to deceive.

The number “two” man says that he will cut and run from Iraq within ten months after he’s elected.

Meanwhile, al Qaeda and Iran remain poised to over run the remnants of Iraq, drooling over the prospect that America will abandon her to the throat cutting religious extremists.

So you tell me, if you were an Iraqi politician, would you bet your future on cooperating with America, knowing full well that the gutless wonder democrats could win and leave you to the tender merciful retributions of the blood thirsty Islamic fanatics?

Everyone knows the spineless history of the democrat party, just look at the millions of people they betrayed in South Vietnam.

You reap what you sow, POS liberals.

This is not an Iraqi political problem, this is an American political problem.

Brought to you by the surrender monkey democrats.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

82% of people polled said they only believe 50% of polls.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 10, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Wasn’t the 9th Beatitude:

Blessed are the spineless POS surrender monkey’s for they shall be called sons of God.

Thanks Duh, for clearing that up.

By w00t

January 10, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Yep, democrats didn’t win WWII or anything… thanks for playing!

By Shawny

January 10, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

So who is that in the cartoon?

By Bosch

January 10, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Good morning woot, ITN, and Luckoduh and other bloggers to post soon.

How exactly did Obama embarrass himself?

Is Luckovich’s cartoon about the polls or did he say something in his speech? I have to honestly say, I don’t get today’s cartoon.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 10, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

I think the man in the cartoon is a pollster…..not a candidate.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

I believe the guy at the lectern is supposed to be, as the person watching asks, a pollster.

“On to South Carolina” implies we may face a repeat performance.

It’s also an indirect swipe at the nonviable candidates who do not have a realistic chance at the nomination, who’ve made their case, but continue on to the next primary. If these people dropped out (as Gov Richardson has) we’d see where their supporters go.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

When I used to work for a major coporation we used to spend alot of time forecasting subsequent month’s results. Then we would spend even more time explaining why our actual results varied from our forecasts. We spent so much time explaining variances we didn’t have any time to actually try to achieve our results.

Polls are worthless. As they say in sports…that’s why we play the games.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

John

Ever notice how the honest response of “a forecast is a guess” or “actual performance was within the margin of error based upon the statistical model we used” got either a blank look or a hostile response?

By Goldie

January 10, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

As I posted yesterday morning, I think another description of the NH “independent” voters might be “wishy-washy”… about 50% of NH voters are undeclared, and I read where many of them stated that they did not decide who to vote for until they got to their polling places.

My suggestion is that our media not report any poll numbers next time for the NH primaries!

By GaVoter

January 10, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Polls and forecast are of immense value to the pollsters and forecasters.

By Bosch

January 10, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Good morning Paul and Mrs. G!

Oh, I thought it was Obama in the cartoon. My bad. But thanks for clearing that up.

I think polls are pretty much worthless as well, they can change in a flash because Americans are ADD.

By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

{{{{Who does this situation benefit? It’s so unusual, it’s hard to say. Clearly, the situation has been a major defeat for Hillary Clinton, who was expected to walk away with the Democrat nomination like it was part of the White House china. Her inevitability seems very evitable now. Winning New Hampshire by 3 points in a badly split race facing challengers running without the benefit of having inherited a two term Presidents political network and machine is ridiculous. Were she a decent candidate the race should be over by now. It may occur to Dems that she might not be the sort of campaign natural they want batting for them in November.}}}}

Bwa.

By GaVoter

January 10, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

I still remember talk from past elections of voters deliberately lying to exit pollsters. That is certainly one possibility. My preferred response to pollsters is “None of your business”. I don’t recall seeing those results tabulated.

By Georgia 74

January 10, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Imagine having the blood of 200 thousand+ people on your hands, boy the day you know who meets his maker is going to be a long one.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Wishy-washy may be a little harsh. I think a lot of people supported Hillary (even if they preferred Obama) as they thought he had the best chance to defeat the Rep candidate. The NH polls (inaccurate though they were) contributed to Obama’s rising numbers - the perception that he could defeat a Rep candidate - particularly one who appealed to special interest groups who constitute a minority of the voter population.

So people were waiting and seeing. As far as undecided based upon differences based upon the candidates themselves, one commentator noted (I don’t intend this as incendiary, just an interesting point of view)

“remember, this is a Democratic election in which there are no issues at all between the three candidates. It is an absurd debate between hopeful change, experienced change, and angry change, which is John Edwards, which has no substance. It is all about personality and about these odd little events.”

So people go on other factors - freshness, genuineness, etc - which the candidates are scrambling to see what resonates. I think Hillary went about it in typical “poll and see what works” fashion while Obama just laid out “this is what I’m about.”

By {{Georgia 74}}

January 10, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Lord, forgive me, I’m responsible for taking over 200,000 lives.

George, you are forgiven, you’ve saved over 2 million lives.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Saw something interesting while channel surfing last night. Some guys were talking about the polls and asked this: was it possible that to be Politically Correct people said they were voting for Obama in order to not appear racist but once inside the voting booth they voted how they actually felt.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

missed a letter - meant to write

“as they thought SHE (Hillary) had the best chance to defeat the Rep candidate.”

Another take on this - NH is now “Hillary’s resurgence.” If more of the polls had been more accurate, the story would have been how H went from a 14-point lead to a 2-point lead.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Exit Polls Pigeonhole Evangelicals Again

By Goldie

January 10, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Uber-Paul @ 9:28 — I’m not in disagreement with you about NH… there are probably many factors involved with how the polls got it wrong for the Dems (including Hillary’s own internal polls). But when about 50% of the voters are “undeclared”… well, I think the polls in that state might be pretty worthless!

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Hey people, quit bad-mouthing the folks of New Hampshire. Alot of smart, young people came out of New Hampshire…the smarter they were, the younger they came out.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Kerry to endorse Obama

By Dubya

January 10, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Even as Bushie currently clowns his way thru the Middle East as the embarassment that he is, a year from now he will be cruising in his simple-minded manner on his riding mower back in Crawford while a new president stuggles to extract the country from this wretched, insane, disastrous, unsolvable mess. No matter the buckets of blood which adorn Bush’s heart, soul, and limited mental powers. God bless Murcuh. Allah akbar!

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Remember the U.S. “benchmarks” for Iraq? Now there’s a new catchphrase in town: “Iraqi solutions.”

Reducing expectations. Works great with kids and nations don’t it.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Goldie

“But when about 50% of the voters are “undeclared”… well, I think the polls in that state might be pretty worthless!”

Excellent point. One pollster said a mistake made was pollsters weed out people who aren’t likely to vote. Many of those people decided in the last couple of days to vote. The pollsters never went back to them and asked “change your mind about if you are going to vote?”

I mentioned the other day - Hillary was on Fox news morning show yesterday - at the end she appeared a bit surprised when one of the interviewers told her the Fox poll was closer to the outcome than the others.

‘Tis a strange season indeed.

But I go back to a central point - based upon the demographics of those who have voted, the shift now is the realization that Obama could win in a general election.

Dubya 9:52

So you consider pushing permanent borders for a Palestinian state and encouraging Israel to dismantle its outposts “clowning his way?” How ideologically telling.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Why don’t we let the candidate have their primaries and when it is over we can rank them. At this point we will let the college football BCS folks come in and decide who the two finalists are who will run for the presidency. The BCS people haven’t been wrong yet, have they?

By Bosch

January 10, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa -

@10:07 That’s brilliant! I think you are on to something.

By AMBER ALERT

January 10, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Name: Fred Thompson

Age: He looks like he is 89 yrs old, actually much younger.

Last seen leaving New Hampshire with his tail between his legs. Could very very sleepy, and cranky. Handle with care.

By Politics Aside

January 10, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Duhng is in the last stages of a common troll disease caused by blogging. You see, Duhng, when you type a comment, you are the first one to read it as you type, so your brain is getting it both visually and from the little voice in your head. (the one telling you to show your wife the blow-up doll). Also, by the act of typing with fingers, you increase the visceral experience of the hysteria you are beguiling yourself with. It’s how a lunatic is born: He’s a victim of his own hate. It’s why I dont read trolls. I occassionally glance at the length of a foaming rant, but only for data to check how far gone a particular troll is.

Duhng, you’re quite mad, you know.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

John - Bosch

As if sports metaphors weren’t bad enough…

By Profit

January 10, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

A poem for Hillary: Fatty fatty, 2 by 4, couldn’t get thru the bathroom door, so she did it on the floor, licked it up, and did some more.

By Cut n Run is What Republicans do Best

January 10, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Everyone knows the spineless history of the democrat party, just look at the millions of people they betrayed in South Vietnam.

Looks like the usual BS we have come to associate with the Republican party. To paraphrase Reagan, ‘The problem with (Republicans) is that they’re real smart people but so much of what they know just isn’t so.’

Gerald Ford (REPUBLICAN) signed the final withdrawal orders for Vietnam after long and unltimately fruitful negotiations by Henry Kissinger (REPUBLICAN) under the former and previously disgraced President Richard Nixon (REPUBLICAN). Withdrawal from Nam was Nixon’s primary campaign platform and promise for those too young to know.

Anyway you slice it, REPUBLICANS were the ‘cut n runners’ of the Nam era. They were the same pussified arm-chair warriors who ‘cut n run’ under Ike (REPUBLICAN) after Truman involved us in Korea, too.

Republicans think if they whine and squeal loud and long enough that they can rewrite history and continue to blame their FAILURES on Democrats, but they don’t get too.

Anytime you talk to a Republican, be prepared to hear an endless stream of lies and half-truths. They have become so rabid for power and the ability to pilfer your wallet with absolute impunity that they are desperate enough to tell you that Nixon and Kissinger were Democrats. Now THAT’S the biggest laugh I’m liable to have all damn year.

By War Profit-er

January 10, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Rudy Tooty Fresh and Fruiy

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Tee hee Paul. At least we don’t have cheating and corruption in spor…uh, never mind.

By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Cut n Run is What Republicans do Best January 10, 2008 10:22 AM Gerald Ford (REPUBLICAN) signed the final withdrawal orders for Vietnam.}}}}

Yeah, right:

{{{{Historians have directly attributed the fall of Saigon in 1975 to the cessation of American aid. Without the necessary funds, South Vietnam found it logistically and financially impossible to defeat the North Vietnamese army. Moreover, the withdrawal of aid encouraged North Vietnam to begin an effective military offensive against South Vietnam. Given the monetary and military investment in Vietnam, former Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage compared the American withdrawal to “a pregnant lady, abandoned by her lover to face her fate.” 2 Historian Lewis Fanning went so far as to say that “it was not the Hanoi communists who won the war, but rather the American Congress that lost it.”}}}}

That would be a Congress controlled in 1975 by the surrender monkey democrats.

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Amber Alert,

Fred had a line yesterday to the effect that while everybody else was campaigning in three feet of snow he was talking to the folks in South Carolina and then asked who that meant was smart enough to be President.

ITFS,

How hard do you think Obama fought to keep that Kerry endorsement from happening?

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Bush expects Mid-east peace accord by his term’s end. I didn’t know his term had been extended indefinitely. Crap, I am always the last one to know anything.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Iraqi Basketball Player

A University of Memphis Tigers scout flies to Baghdad to watch a young Iraqi play basketball in a new American sponsored league and is very impressed with a young Iraqi player. He arranges for him to come over to the US and play basketball on scholarship.

A few months later the Tigers are down 10 points to the Louisville Cardinals with only 5 minutes left. Calipari gives the young Iraqi the nod and he goes in. The kid is a sensation, scoring 5 three point goals in 5 minutes and winning the game for the home team Tigers!

The fans, players and coaches are all delighted. Even ESPN loves this new star!

When the player comes off the court he phones his Mom to tell her about his first day of NCAA basketball.

“Hello Mom, guess what?” he says in an Iraqi accent. “I played for 5 minutes today, we were 10 points down, but I scored 5 three pointers and we won. Everybody loves me, the fans, the media, they all love me.”

“Wonderful,” says his Mom, “now let me tell you about my day. Your father got shot in the street and robbed, Your sister and I were ambushed, raped and beaten and your brother has joined a gang of looters, and all while you were having such great time.”

The young Iraqi is very upset. “Mom, I’m so sorry.”

“All you can say is you’re sorry?!?!?!?!?” says his Mom. “It’s your fault we moved to Memphis in the first place! “

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Probably not nearly as hard as Romney, McCain, Huckabee, Guiliani, etc are fighting to prevent a Bush or Cheney or Cunningham or Foley or Gonzales or Rove or Craig etc endorsement.

Run Run Run as fast as you can You can’t escape the fact that your Bush’s man!

By getalife

January 10, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

w spews there should be an end to the occupation.

No, not the Iraq or Afghanistan occupation.

Embarrassing watching this loser trying to achieve something.

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

ITFS @ 10:33,

When the announcement was made by Fox that Paul was being excluded from the New Hampshire debate they said in that very announcement that even though he was polling so low they still had more time and space in South Carolina and Paul would be invited.

Makes a cute story for you to mindlessly spam though.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

ITN,

Hey baby! Are you available this weekend? Sen.Craig and I are hosting a party and he wants you to come.

Its going to be a real treat this time.

Hamsters!

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

getalife,

I can’t sweetheart. I’m going to a Richard Simmons “let her loose” conference this weekend.

Tell Sen. Craig I catch him next time.

By luckovichisaheadcase

January 10, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

That is a good cartoon. The fact is that polls are notoriously inaccurate in ‘open’ primary states and probably should not be published, except that papers and cable channels use them to MAKE (up) news. The poll itself becomes the event, the news, the reason for the story. However, we do have a first amendment, so they cannot be outlawed, nor should they. News organizations should use them more judiciously however.

Nevertheless, Hitlery will lose in the end, even if she does get the nomination. She is a jerk and just plain unlikable. News organizations also failed to play the segment of her talk right after her little tear-up session when she went right back to being cold and calculating and ripping Barak Obama up and down. The woman who asked the question even voted for Obama. Too bad so many women see in Hitlery what they want to see and not what she is - a first class manipulator and narcissistic twit!

By Paul

January 10, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

RB

Good one!

RW-(the original)

It’s good to hear the silence from the ultraleft sites (moveon, etc) since the Dem contenders have been appearing on various Fox shows. As I said - Dems had to appease the farleft power, money and influence brokers and activists in the early stages, now they’re going for the audience and the middle.

If keeping the Dem candidates off Fox was a stated objective - Soros ought to ask for his money back. Political survival trumps appeasing ideological groups at this stage.

Out for a while - later -

By Georgia 74

January 10, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Repudlickers, ” I love the pitter patter of little feet.”

By RW-(the original)

January 10, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I think Edwards is the lone hold out in the absurd boycott of appearing on Fox. Maybe that’s one of the America’s he doesn’t think he represents.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The way the Democrat Party race is shaping up seems to be good news for either Edwards if by some odd chance Obama drops and for Obama if he stays close to Hillary. Senator Clinton will have a really tough time if she doesn’t quickly build a huge lead.

Fir you moonbat(ic)s® I’ll put this into simple terms you can understand. Remember the three finalists on last year’s American Idol? You had a beat boxer guy (Hillary) and two girls (Obama and Edwards) with great voices and very similar styles. The beat boxer (Hillary) had all the support he was ever going to get and once one of the girls (Obama and Edwards) was knocked out the remaining girl (Obama or Edwards) got the support the other one had and skyrocketed into an unbeatable lead.

Later!

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

By Georgia 74 9:26 AM

{{{boy the day you know who meets his maker is going to be a long one.}}}

Are you acknowledging there is a maker?

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

By Georgia 74 9:26 AM

{{{boy the day you know who meets his maker is going to be a long one.}}}

Are you acknowledging there is a maker?

By getalife

January 10, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Like President Clinton said, she will have a hard time winning the nomination but will win the general easily.

By The Prophet

January 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Sure, RW, I followed THAT along.

Voters are abandoning the GOP like Record companies are abandoning Idol winners.

RW has become blunted. He was so sharp. Well not really, but when someone goes elmer-fudd on you, you only remember the good things.

Hillary is going to be our best president who was also a first lady who was grandfathered into office as a favorite son with a daughter who is both an (under)dog and has a (dark)horse-face. (It’s a new awards category).

I am the Prophet. I know all. I see all.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Rep. John Doolittle to Retire.

Kerry disses Edwards spewing Obama will unite the country.

Well, his party is united with the gop. That is the problem.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

As Lt. Gen. Russel Honore prepares to retire from the Army and hand over his command Friday, he says he wants to spend the rest of his life creating a “culture of preparedness” to prevent another post-disaster disaster.

“There’s an attitude everywhere else that people are smarter than they are in New Orleans and in Mississippi. They’re not,” Honore, 60, said at his office at Fort Gillem outside Atlanta. “What happened in New Orleans could have happened anywhere on the eastern seaboard.”

Lost another great General.

By Georgia 74

January 10, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Of course there is a Maker, and he surely is not a Republican. ” It is easier to get a Camel through the eye of a needle than to get a rich man into heaven” Matt.22 etc.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Rush: Huck ‘not a conservative’

By RE

January 10, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I really hope Hillary loses the nomination, I do think she would be a decent president, nearly anyone would be a nice change from our current administration.

The thing is, the only principle that can unite the GOP is a shared hatred of anything clinton. She is the one candidate in either primary that has the excitement of the GOP base. A clinton presidency would keep intact a failing and fractured GOP.

This country needs a good opposition party to function well, the GOP needs to regroup and recommit to some basic principles that it has lost in the past 8 years. A clinton presidency would delay that, also I would expect a GOP rally in the 2010 congressional elections that would bring back a stalemate to government.

By jacksonwolff

January 10, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

“By Georgia 74 9:26 AM

{{{boy the day you know who meets his maker is going to be a long one.}}}

Are you acknowledging there is a maker?”

It may suprise you to know that just because someone isn’t a Republican, that doesn’t mean that they don’t believe in god.

I’m gay, and I believe in god, and go to church, and worship just like most people.

By Goldie

January 10, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Getalife— I don’t think it’s a good idea to continue with the same ole hate politics as we’ve had the past 2 decades… beginning with Reagan/Atwater and ending up with what we have now: Dubya/Rover.

Obama is our chance to begin the changes needed to unite and represent ALL Americans, regardless of their political affiliation… I’m not sure Hillary is the agent for doing that big job.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

RE and Goldie,

Like she said, we have amnesia about President Clinton’s time in office.

We know how they will govern. Obama wants unity but the Dems already vote with the gop. It is a roll of the dice with Obama, the superunknown.

The key to change is a larger Dem majority with a Dem President and whip them to stick together like the gop.

The unity crap is bs.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

BTW, w ran on uniting this country. It is political rhetoric.

Total bs, don’t fall for it again.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Yeah, rush will unite with the liberals. fixed noise will unite with the liberals. The wingnuts will unite with the liberals. RW blogs will unite with the liberals.

Come on people, give me a break.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

By Georgia 74 1:24 PM

{{{Of course there is a Maker, and he surely is not a Republican. ” It is easier to get a Camel through the eye of a needle than to get a rich man into heaven” Matt.22 etc. }}}

Are you saying only R’s are rich? I don’t get your point.

Here’s a question for you Bible scholar. Define “rich”. How much does a person have to be worth to be “rich” by your definition? (I’m guessing that limit is above what you’re worth, isn’t it?!)

Wouldn’t you consider nearly all of Hollywood and every last one of the D’s presidential candidates as “rich”? How many poor people do you know who live in 25K sq ft homes?

jacksonwolff. Congratulations. That would make you the one and only Christian among the liberals who post on this site. If you pay close attention, you’ll start to realize the “progressive” democratic party is not only not very welcoming of Christians, it’s outright hostile toward them. You might want to keep that dirty little secret “in the closet” when hanging out with your liberal friends.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

FBI wiretaps dropped due to unpaid bills

By RE

January 10, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

There is not going to be any type of national unity, you are right, that is a false hope. However, with hilary, there is an automatic vote against her of at least 45% or higher. I do not think she is the most electable candidate, and the type of attack politics I think everyone is tired of works against hillary and will be used over and over. She is considered partisan, albeit unfairly as she is the one being attacked, it is still the reality that she is a devisive figure. Her time is passed, better that the country moves on to a younger generation of leaders.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

January 10, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

jacksonwolff, tap tap tappity taptap tap?

By getalife

January 10, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

The only things that have united this country were the Nazi occupations, Pearl Harbor and 9/11.

There is a profitable industry on dividing this country.

You think Obama will shut down these profits?

Do you think he will change the wingnut hatred?

All the sudden we are united because he is President?

Please, think. Clinton will govern for the middle class and that is as good as it gets.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Recession—Who Cares?

By RE

January 10, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

About the discrepency in the polling for new hampshire, I have not heard anyone mention that biden and dodd dropped out just days before the primary. Those type of voters seem to me to be more likely to go for hillary as a second choice than obama. Even if Biden and dodd voters combined make up 4% of the vote, that is enough to turn it for hillary.

Just saying, and I think hillary benefits more from the richardson drop out as well, Obama would pick up from gravel, kucinich, and edwards voters more than clinton, but those three are not going to drop out any time soon.

By luckovichisaheadcase

January 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Hitlery is and should always be an embarassment to true feminists. She has achieved her success only because of whom she married. She is very much like Ma Ferguson and Nellie Tayloe Ross - elected only because of their husbands. She did not achieve her political success COMPLETELY on her own like such notables as Jeannette Rankin, Senator Susan Collins (who is a single woman), Senator Diane Feinstein or even Geraldine Ferraro. She has to depend on Bill for everything in her political life. She is tied to HIS apron strings.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

{{{Please, think. Clinton will govern for the middle class and that is as good as it gets.}}}

Speaking for the middle class, No Thanks!!

Can you tell me specifically what Hillary plans to do for the middle class?

By getalife

January 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

There will be a better time for Obama to be President. He needs more experience and stop with the fairy tale of unity.

Now, we have to clean up the w disaster and save the middle class.

It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush. They did it before and they will do it again.

By Tired of election already

January 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

H is for the HEALER she will be

I is for the wholesome IMAGE she projects

L is for the LADY she is

L is for the LOOKER she is

A is for the patriotic AMERICAN she is

R is for the REPUBLICAN killer she is

Y is for the YOUNGSTERS she is giving a future to.

Put them all together and it spells HILLARY.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

{{{Please, think. Clinton will govern for the middle class and that is as good as it gets.}}}

Speaking for the middle class, No Thanks!!

Can you tell me specifically what Hillary plans to do for the middle class?

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Who is the Middle Class?

Couple of years old….but hell it seems I’m rich! (Note BIG not Republican)

By getalife

January 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

No RB,

Google her site.

By RE

January 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

On a financial note, Gold hits 893

I remember andy telling me what an idiot I was back a month ago saying gold was a good buy back when it was at 775. He’s a financial wiz.

By @@

January 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Calm down. I can’t keep up with who you want the dems nominee to be. Will you be changing your mind yet again within the next day or two?

I thought Obama and Edwards were for the middle class and Hillary was a Washington insider…”The Hill” if you will.

I’m off to Turkey—interesting things going on over there. The dems almost blew that relationship back in October with their incompetency and the Armenian Resolution but we’re back on track now.

Did you know the PKK has apologized for one of their recent attacks on Turkey. That’s among the smallest events that’s piqued my interest.

It’s interesting stuff compared to our presidential campaigning.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

By getalife 2:35

Spare me the time and sum it up for me. Surely you know what her big plans are to save the middle class, right? Please share with us. Be specific.

I really don’t think you have the first dang clue, but we’ll see.

By RE

January 10, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Anyone out there see the video of the iranian boats coming up to the US navy in the straits of hormuz?

Without getting too tinfoil hat, that video just didn’t seem real. Is there some iranian show like jackass on the air? One of the iranian guys, told the navy boats ” You will explode after a few minutes” Sounds more like some drunk guys than a real conflict.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

By getalife 2:35

Spare me the time and sum it up for me. Surely you know what her big plans are to save the middle class, right? Please share with us. Be specific.

I really don’t think you have the first dang clue, but we’ll see.

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Speaking of those speedboats, it seems to me a few RPG’s in the hands of these nimble boat users could inflict some heavy damage on our smaller boats in the gulf. They wouldn’t have to be Iranis piloting the boats, they could be your typical terrorists du jour. Or worse yet, suicide boat bombers could probably bring down large U.S. warships if they had enough explosives…and they have shown in the past they seem to.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

U.S.: Voices on Recording May Not Have Been From Iranian Speedboats

Homeland Security Threat level raised to Lavender.

By Bosch

January 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase,

So are you saying that any woman whose husband was a politician and then they themselves decide to become a politician, and are elected, they do not achieve sucess on their own merit?

What about Mary Bono Mack? Elizabeth Dole?

If anything, Hillary Clinton is an incredibly strong woman who does not strike me as the type who would ever rely on a man for anything (and I mean anything) to achieve her goals.

She is not my first choice for POTUS, but to imply she is riding on Bill’s apron strings is simply absurd. Bill would never wear an apron!

By the way, I really like Susan Collins. I didn’t know she was single though. Fine woman.

By W stands for worst

January 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

As someone who at this time would vote for anyone or anything not GOP i will be the first to say Hillary is and will be a disaster. She is Dubya lite, she will not unite the country at all. She is part of the problem they have in Washington now, so who thinks that once elected she will suddenly transform into this righteous President is dead wrong. I heard the same from Dubya, Im a uniter not a divider, yeah right. I know how to work with both sides of the isle, what a joke that was.

By Goldie

January 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Hillary claims her “experience” is what makes her the better candidate for our next prez… Well, let’s just compare. There’s:

several yrs. as a law firm partner.

several yrs. sleeping in a bedroom @ the Governors’ mansion.

several yrs. sleeping in a bedroom @ the White House.

several yrs. arguing with fellow Senators in the U.S. Senate.

Hmmmm….. now contrast that with Sen. Obama’s years of leadership and “experience”:

several yrs. as law school professor.

several yrs. as community activist and civil rights lawyer.

several yrs. in state Senate.

several yrs. arguing with fellow Senators in the U.S. Senate.

Hmmm…. I think I’ll take the one with the additional proven leadership years as law professor, community activist, civil rights lawyer, state senator, and U.S. Senator — as opposed to the other one who’s apparently spent more of her years sleeping in powerful bedrooms.

OBAMA ‘08!

By Aaron Burr V. Mexico

January 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Kerry has endorsed Obama.

Now he’s got the Ent vote all locked up!

By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE January 10, 2008 2:36 PM On a financial note, Gold hits 893 I remember andy telling me what an idiot I was back a month ago saying gold was a good buy back when it was at 775. He’s a financial wiz.}}}}

RE: You can lie all you want if that makes you feel better but maybe first you should check the archives, no?

Your exact advise was to sell dollars low and buy gold.

I called you a blooming idiot and I have not backed away from that statement yet.

Believe me, I am not adverse to speculation, it’s a living fact when you buy stocks, maybe gold is your bag.

GFY. (Good for you.)

But selling dollars at their low end, when you know that the Fed is artificially trying to lower their value to improve the trade deficit and increase the domestic manufacturing, a policy that they will soon reverse, is rather silly.

By W stands for worst

January 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Here is an interesting post to see how you align with the candidates. Very interesting:

http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460&nav=menu132310

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

I would not say that a specific candidate couldn’t be elected. As I was growing up, people said JFK could never be elected because he was Catholic. They said Nixon could never be elected because he couldn’t debate well. People said an actor could never become president, but look at Reagan. People said an idiot could never become president, but look at W. Don’t count anyone out…you never know in this country what might happen.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

RE,

How high do you think gold will go?

By Don

January 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

You sure got that right, Dubya. The little SOB will tell people “I saved America. I didn’t cut n run.” No, just fled the scene and hid after he was commited, refusing to be “available” for duty. Pleased to send others tho, and to spill their blood while seeking his “legacy.” Kind of runs in the family, but that’s another story.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

In The News 2:35

You’re RICH? Congrats! You may want one hand on the voting lever and one hand on your wallet!

Median household income (half above, half below) in this country is about $46k a year. That’s not what the person makes - it’s the household.

If memory serves me correctly, there was a fleeting moment when VP Gore was running that he made a passing comment, in line with his “who are we going to tax” remarks, that $60 grand a year was rich. You never saw so much backpedaling and clarification! LOL!

@@

Glad you’re back - something I wanted to ask to see if it passes the common sense test.

Couple weeks back came reports Ahmadinejad had fallen out of favor with Khameini. As long as the country had a threatening enemy (US) there was unity, in spite of A’s economic program which has wreaked havoc on the country, leading to largescale discontent. Then came the US intel reassessment regarding their nuke program. Suddenly the pressure’s off for unity and A’s position is threatened.

Shortly thereafter we have the Strait of Hormuz confrontation with the Iranian Guards’ provocation of the US naval forces. We were seconds away from firing. Iranians did what they could to provoke our firing, without firing themselves.

Think of what would have happened if we had fired. US forces shot first. Sank Iranian vessels and killed her people. Now they have a direct attack around which to rally the citizenry, solidifying Ahmadinejad’s power and giving an excuse to clamp down on the people.

What do you think of this “connect the dots” exercise?

Back soon - off moving my wife’s computer out of my office and into hers and testing the wireless connections -

By John in Tampa, FLA

January 10, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Headline of the day, as seen on Yahoo: What are you doing here?…man asks wife at brothel.

Oh man, I think she could ask the same thing.

By Truthman

January 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Goodbye Lt. Gen. Russel L. Honore - Hero of Hurricane Katrina - a price can never be put on your service to your country.

Great article on Sunday, Moni!

Thanks!

TM

By IN THE NEWS(RE)

January 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Regarding your post at 11:05: Is the party still on for this weekend?

I may drop by after the conference.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

ITN,

Cool baby.

I’ll tell Sen. Craig you’re dropping by.

He’ll be estatic.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Goldie

“Hart” as in Gary Hart? Of “Monkey Business” fame?

You’re just a glutton for continuing the Clinton legacy, aren’t you? (grin)

By getalife

January 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

ITN,

Why did you use your ID along with (RE) at 4:36?

Are you using multiple IDs again sweetheart?

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Yes baby. I do that sometimes to avoid that damn namejacker.

He bothers me because I hide behind press releases. I figure if I just use my other IDs(yesterday it was RWNJIFG) he will leave me alone.

He hurts my feelings.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Geez, this idiot still thinks he is funny.

Like Honore said, “Don’t get stuck on stupid.”

By IN THE NEWS

January 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You right babycakes. He thinks he’s funny.

He’s not though, as a matter of fact, I feel a tear swelling in my eye just thinking about him.

He truly is stuck on stupid.

By Sa It Ain't So

January 10, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

I just heard Hillary’s new slogan “Four More Tears”

If she is elected that is what America will be chanting. :)

By RE

January 10, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I figure $1000 for gold is not out of the question, the fed is going to keep cutting rates to make wall street happy, this is going to drop bonds rates and foriegners will stop buying our debt, so the fed will print money to make up for the shortfall. Dollar will continue to drop in value probably until W leaves office at least, and then who knows what will happen.

Droping dollar value, increased inflation, higher national debt…. and a slowing job market. Stagflation, how does that trickle down feel?

By getalife

January 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

RE,

You can use your other ID now.

The namejacker is gone.

By Sa It Ain't So

January 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

I just heard Hillary’s new slogan “Four More Tears”

If she is elected that is what America will be chanting. :)

By The Prophet

January 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Slow news day. Bush thinks he’ll usher a new peace treaty in Palestine. Stock market stabilized. Kerry endorses Obama. Swiftboaters prove Hillary doesn’t really take it personal.

slow news day

By The Prophet

January 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Slow news day. Bush thinks he’ll usher a new peace treaty in Palestine. Stock market stabilized. Kerry endorses Obama. Swiftboaters prove Hillary doesn’t really take it personal.

slow news day

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

Getalife, Don’t have a clue what her plan is do you? Didn’t think so. You’ll vote for here because some talking head on TV said she was for the middle class, but you’ll never look below the surface to see what that means. Rather shallow, don’t you think?

By RE 5:12 {{{ how does that trickle down feel?}}} You’re right, we’d be so much better off if we’d just tax the hell out of everybody. I’ll have to assume thats your plan since I haven’t seen ANYTHING different from any of the D candidates.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Prophet

There’s a country called Palestine?

By getalife

January 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Thanks RE.

God bless my grandfather for investing in gold. He predicted another great depression and passed down the distrust in our government.

By @@

January 10, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Looks like we got back about the same time. In response to your 3:59…

There are two videos floating around of the incident in the Straits. Iran’s has a helicopter in it, the U.S. video doesn’t. Who knows which one is legit.

Here’s what I’m thinking. Iran is starting to feel like the odd man out in the ME even though carrots are there for the nibbling—not just from the U.S. but from neighboring Arab countries who have no love for Iran. They’re willing to work with them but not willing to recognize them as the region’s power player. Ahmadinejad is feeling the squeeze from within and from without. He’s probably trying to provoke an attack for the very reasons you mentioned. It’ll only benefit from inside Iran but I don’t think they want to push it too far.

George Friedman wrote an article at Stratfor some time back about conspiracy theorists. Said he didn’t put much store in conspiracies except when two power brokers are going after the same win but….those in power would never create a war situation because it’s they who have the most to lose. Ahmadenijad is gonna lose either way. It’s best he bite the carrots and leave us with the big stick.

He and his clerics may be willing to meet their virgins somewhere else but I’m thinking his opponents in Iran want to enjoy the ones here on earth.

Did the article entitled “Turkey, Greece: A Natural Gas Domino Effect” come through your e-mail. It’s fascinating. Turkmenistan raises prices for Iran. Iran protests. Turkmenistan doesn’t care, they’ve got plenty of other customers. Iran will have to pay prices they can’t afford with the sanctions. Iran cuts off supply to Turkey—Turkey dips into the TGI which impacts Europe’s supply. I’ve never seen anything like it.

I can’t link you to Stratfor but this article from UPI sums it up pretty well

Initially I’m thinking….Putin…..he’s the one that holds energy sources hostage for leverage, but then Turkmenistan and Russia have their own conflicts going on.

Holy moley! Tune in tomorrow for “As the World Churns”. (ILH) <——I’m laughing here.

By RE

January 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

RB,

Let me try to see if you can get this, would you rather have your taxes be 2% higher, or would you rather have your dollar denominated assets lose 40% of thier value in buying power over the last 6 years.

I know you have to step back a little to understand it, but there is more to life and wealth than the tax rate.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

RB,

If you are interested on her issues, go to her site.

Go to all their sites and compare like Iowa and NH did.

And for goodness sake, if you get polled after you vote, tell them your vote is private like they did in NH.

By N-GA

January 10, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

R.E. @ 5:50,

I’ve never seen it expressed so well!

BIG thx……

By Apocalypse

January 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

getalife,

They didn’t tell them their vote was private, they fell for the old tear in the eye trick.

Stop making excuses!

By getalife

January 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Whatever punk.

By Glenn

January 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Mr. Luckovich, today you embarrassed yourself again. But you refuse to quit. How come?

Oh, and…

TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF!

By Auntie Kepila

January 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Kahuna Obama may be blue now, but when the polls close in South Carolina Hillary will be Simply Red.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait for the weekend.

Sen. Craig and I are hosting a private gay party for lonely men.

We’ll begin in a threesome: me, Craig, and our prairie dog named Scott.

Scott will be used as a bridge connecting my a$$ with Craig’s a$$.

Fun for the whole family.

By Paul

January 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

@@

Countries many Americans have never heard of are doing some interesting power plays with their resources. Russia’s hit a few bumps lately - but they’ve always got arms sales. You have to admire them with Iran - get contracts to build underground facilities. Get contracts to build reactor. Hold back on materials for more money. Sell sophisticated air defense system to protect facilities (the peaceful ones). Sell ANOTHER, even more sophisticated air defense system.

Lousy capitalists.

Anyway, I wonder if the time isn’t right to make some high-level overtures to Iran. Could have effect of giving moral encouragement to the opposition - or at least reinforcing the impression we’re not just out for war but will take the initiative for stability. Wouldn’t “strengthen” Khameini - he’s not going anywhere - but could weaken Ahmadinejad. And possibly lead to some weakening of the mullahs.

Flies in the face of Hillary’s preconditions. Bush admin tends to do things at lower-midlevel, quietly. We should consider situations as opportunities, not just actions at face value calling for a response.

By Lucovich is here

January 10, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

I think you just embarrassed yourself, i have never heard of tonkin gulf unless it used to be a gas station by my house but i have heard of the Gulf of Tonkin….

By Glenn

January 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Anybody figure out yet whose footage that was that showed Hillary choking on tears? Mm-mmmn. Let’s see, two days after she happened to remark that she hadn’t cried in public and that “it’s different for a woman” to do so while running for President. Then the day comes, a day when she’d assiduously avoided the cameras and microphones and reporters. And a lone camera and microphone are right there in her personal space, and the very thing she’d speculated about not 48 hours before happens and —- voila! —- just in time for the final pre-election news cycle every media outlet is playing the footage simultaneously. No exclusives, no delays, none of them crowing credit for the scoop footage.

If I didn’t trust the Clintons, I’d bet five Linden Dollars that the footage was staged, shot, edited and released by the Clinton campaign. But that would be too cynical.

By Glenn

January 10, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

getalife, that’s interesting that your grandfather bequeathed you a general distrust of government.

I’m just curious, what were some of the things you distrusted most about President Clinton and his Administration?

By Glenn

January 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

OOOOOhhhh. How deeply embarrassing! I was referring of course to the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, of which you obviously have not heard.

The TGR has weighed heavily on the busy minds of the DNC-AJC blog lefties in the past couple of days. Were you not aware that the Naval incident in the Gulf was staged by our jingoes as a pretext for war with Iran?

I’ll stop typing now, and let you try to pick apart my grammar or my heritage or something, unless you are unwilling to embarrass yourself further.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

By RE 2008 5:50 PM So, how many of those “average” income earners do you think can afford that additional $800 tax bill? Weren’t you libs the ones on here 2 days ago whining about the people on the edge? Which is it? Do you care about them or don’t you? I’m sick of this double talk. You’re lying to the American people with this crap.

Or maybe the plan isn’t really to tax “everybody” 2%, but is to make up the difference by taxing successful people 4% to make up the difference. Smoke and mirrors, baby. Buy the votes and cash the checks.

getalife, I could look at Hillary’s site until Bill becomes faithful and I wouldn’t find 1 dam thing in her plan that would help real middle class people 1 bit. Everything she’s proposed is a tax on peeople to pay for more government services for people she wants votes from. Period. You go look it up and prove me wrong.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 10, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

Can I change the subject?

Meredith Emerson.

I did not know her, but know many who did and some who searched the woods.

No politics now please.

What do you suggest to your mothers, wives and daughters who want to walk safe in America?

No s**. Do I really need to carry a pistol to take my Joe and Pups for a swim? Do you recommend a self defense course? Pepper Spray?

We can argue the causes and solutions of the underlying problems tomorrow.

What do we say tonight?

By @@

January 10, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Paul:

I think Bush and this administration has other countries making those overtures. Negotiations are going on. I’m just not privy to what they are.

Frozen Iranian bloggers.

They have bloggers?

Iran is facing an exceptionally cold winter. Snow has trapped many cities and at least eight people have lost their lives. Even gas supplies have been disrupted although Iran is the second richest gas country in the world. Millions of people are deprived of heating.

(((Several bloggers have provided photos from “frozen cities”, shared their stories, and criticised the government for mismanagement of crisis.))) That one sounds like a liberal—blame with no solutions.

(((Uzakyol says [Fa] there is a clear difference in how Turkey managed a recent gas shortage. While several cities in Iran are deprived of gas, Turkey managed the crisis. The blogger says the difference is that ——->gas is in the hands of the government in Iran,<——- while in Turkey the ——->private sector is more flexible in finding solutions.<——-))) That one sounds like a conservative.

Leftists think government sucks, but only when it’s a Republican government.

Conservatives think government sucks period, and would prefer the private sector to seek solutions.

Come to think of it, if Putin was involved with Turkmenistan raising their gas prices and then cutting it off that would be Putin screwing with Iran.

Puzzle pieces…puzzle pieces! Where the heck do they fit?

By The Prophet

January 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

Walking in the woods alone is exactly like running with the herd in an open field.

Carrying a pistola for protection is like swallowing a needle to innoculate yourself against the flu.

Being afraid to live is like facing death with ennui.

I know all. I see all. I am the Prophet!

By Glenn

January 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

I realize that this issue doesn’t amount to a Hill of beans in the midst of our terrible war with the Persians, but do you suppose that Bloomberg.com will cease placing breeder stories for Hillary’s oppo shop —- for the big outlets, notably the one the L.A. Times calls the Corrupt News Network, to pick up with cover —- now that Mayor Bloomberg thinks he may actually make a run and will have to go through Hillary to get there?

RB,

Your analysis of Hillary’s 10-point plan is false. It’s not true that “everything she’s proposed” constitutes the rankest vote-buying.

As a matter of fact, the first two proposals propose nothing at all, and the third and eighth are the same proposal, put in different ways. What you should have said is that, of Hillary’s Seven-Point Former Ten-Point Plan, everything she’s proposed constitutes the rankest vote-buying.

Moreover, you forgot to mention that most of it falls outside the rightful jurisdiction of the federal government, most of the proposed measures would be counterproductive, and all of them exhorbitant.

Try to get it right next time, please. These things are important just now, even while we’re at war with Iran.

By fred

January 10, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

if anyone should know about embarissing himself it would be Lukovich.

By Luckoduh

January 10, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Mrs. Godzilla January 10, 2008 6:42 PM No s**. Do I really need to carry a pistol to take my Joe and Pups for a swim?}}}}

Smith and Wesson makes a very nice revolver called the Lady Smith, it is a 38 caliber so there are no massive recoil issues and when loaded with Speer Gold Dot hollow points can be a wonderful way to send some pervert POS straight to hell where they belong.

Remember to aim.

And if your are a hopeless pinko pacifist then aim at the air right next to the sorry little freaks ear, see if he don’t grab some yonder.

If you aren’t worried about concealment then I suggest a Heckler & Koch MP5, this is a terrific weapon for dispersing large crowds in a major hurry.

Seriously.

By getalife

January 10, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Glenn,

I never trust government but at least his administration was held accountable and testified thousand of times for nothing.

This one, well Luntz said it best on fixed noise, of all places:

“What they really want is accountability and they don’t think they get that from the Republicans.”

By Glenn

January 10, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Bought my mother a Lady Smith only to discover that that particular model was a “hide” weapon with no, repeat no, safety! Now if you think that teaching American History is embarrassing, try making a mistake like my handgun one!

Ingrams are better for crowd dispersal. Little snub-nosed barrels spray like a sawed-off shotgun. Most intimidating. Seriously. Learned this trick in Guatemala City.

TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF! TONKIN GULF!

By RE

January 10, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

Thanks.

Sorry I can’t check the blog often, cooking some brunswick stew tonight. Need something to warm up with, it droped down to 75 in Ft Lauderdale.

RB,

Listen, I would like to have a conversation with you and exchange ideas, however you seem to be a partisan contrarian. No matter what example I show you, you will automatically disagree and spout off a talking point.

Heres the thing, and it is on Rush’s website if you don’t believe me, the average american does not pay much, if any federal income tax. They get most of it back if not all, people don’t really start complaining about taxes until they get above 100k. But since you bring it up, I think the average american can take $800 a year tax increase, which would be about $67 per month change in income. Compare that with the inflationary cost of oil, which has gone from an average $120/month expense to a $280/ month expense.

How about those retiring babyboomers who were careful and saved up the 401k like they were told they should do, only to find that after inflation and dollar devaluation, they are taking a 30% haircut on value. That is real loss, and that is a shortsighted monetary policy at fault.

If it was someone aside from Bush running the economy like this, I would still think it is idiotic.

By RB from Gwinnett

January 10, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Ms. G,

I received this quote from a friend just this morning. Perfect for your question.

“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein

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