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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2007 > November > 19 > Entry

Rudy 9-11 hero

By Mike Luckovich | Monday, November 19, 2007, 08:40 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By Mad As Zell

November 20, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

A MATCH MADE IN HELL AND DRENCHED IN PURE EVIL…HUGO CHAVEZ and MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD team up and pose together for a demonic anti-American photo op.

Those two damned snot-nosed facist punks with totalitarian and nuclear ambitions think they’re tough, but those two Hitler and Mussolini bully-wannabe flunkees ain’t anywhere near tough because I’ll take take their lunch money and hand their a*******es back to them on a bent metal tray in the form of a dozen .50-caliber shells and in their respective hardheaded thick numskulls and a few heat-seeking missles in their living rooms and I’ll throw in the timely head-exploding assassination Kim Jong IL just for the hell of it. Hell, I might even waterboard ‘em first to make it even more fun and digestible for the liberal jerks in the room. Punks. We should take some loose nukes and shove ‘em so far up Ahmadinejad’s a$$ that he pukes plutonium all over the mullah towelheads… Now how would that be for a “nuclear enima”? Assassinate Chavez, vaporize Ahmadinejad and BOMB IRAN NOW!!!

By Mad As Zell

November 20, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

A MATCH MADE IN HELL AND DRENCHED IN PURE EVIL…HUGO CHAVEZ and MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD team up and pose together for a demonic anti-American photo op.

Those two damned snot-nosed facist punks with totalitarian and nuclear ambitions think they’re tough, but those two Hitler and Mussolini bully-wannabe flunkees ain’t anywhere near tough because I’ll take take their lunch money and hand their a*******es back to them on a bent metal tray in the form of a dozen .50-caliber shells and in their respective hardheaded thick numskulls and a few heat-seeking missles in their living rooms and I’ll throw in the timely head-exploding assassination Kim Jong IL just for the hell of it. Hell, I might even waterboard ‘em first to make it even more fun and digestible for the liberal jerks in the room. Punks. We should take some loose nukes and shove ‘em so far up Ahmadinejad’s a$$ that he pukes plutonium all over the mullah towelheads… Now how would that be for a “nuclear enima”? Assassinate Chavez, vaporize Ahmadinejad and BOMB IRAN NOW!!!

By George

November 20, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

I’m sure Andy/Duh/Dull will find a way to blame this on Clinton.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

Ooh— good one, Lucko!

I predict that Rudy will “pop” the day after the Iowa caucus…

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Mad as Zell has trouble double posting?

Or is it RB?

Or Duh?

By Over There

November 20, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

ASHLAND, Wis. - It was an unlucky day for two squirrels and hundreds of Midwestern power customers.

Brian Elwood, a spokesman for Xcel Energy, said a squirrel came in contact with an overhead transformer and knocked out service to 177 customers Monday. Power was fully restored in just under an hour.

See there all you liberal maggots, King George was right all along. Now we’re having to fight those filthy, nutty Islamo-Squirrels here caue we aren’t fightin em over there!!!

By To whatever anti-US dictator it may concern: DIE, DIE, DIE!!! (Mad As Zell)

November 20, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

I’d also take a 30-30 and put the contents of Hugo and Mahmoud’s brains all over the back of whatever is behind them. Closed-casket funerals for both the boys. Gets me to thinking that Hugo and Mahmoud kinda look a lot better DEAD, which when you think about it makes great fashion sense…blood red is a great color for anti-democracy, anti-American dictators.

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Rudyvision

Mideast Hawks Help to Develop Giuliani Policy

By Prophetess Kelley P

November 20, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is another great example of the War on Christmas.

The Macy’s Parade starts the Christmas season every year. If that balloon were to burst it would be the end of Christmas in New York.

Mike, thank you for giving the War on Christmas its own cartoon. Thank you for shining your light on this very important problem.

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Luckovich’s Frankenstein is very funny. Definitely Peter Boyle. Puttin’ on the blimpz. A float that big would have an enormous schvanztooker. (He’ll be very popular). Guilliani has to hope nobody is throwing darts nearby….pfzzzstuk, pfzzstok, pfzzstek, pfzzstik, pfzzstuk. (nice grouping). Does this mean Hillary is Frau Bluckner? (Neehayyy ninny nayyy). Guilliani will be fine if he can get over the hump in the polls. (what hump?)

I know, you get the bit.

By reebok

November 20, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Giuliani is a small-minded, mean, petty punk. In a national election he would get crushed by Obama or Clinton. People have forgotten what a vicious little weasel this guy is, but the rigors of campaigning for President would reveal his character. Dems should be supporting this guy, and working to make him the Republican nominee…he’s the Dems’ best shot for taking back the White House.

By @@

November 20, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Howzabout popping that bubble you live in ml. 9/11 was a national tragedy. I wish I’d kept count of how many times we’ve been reminded that you won a Pulitzer or was it two. Oh well, not important.

This is scary:

(((An in-depth survey of more than 2,000 people offers a window into the thinking of Americans as they look far beyond electability in making their choices for president — grappling with matters of personality, policy and religion in sorting through the candidates.)))

(((Overall, the poll finds, DEMOCRATS are ——->weighing personal traits more heavily than policy positions<——- this election season; REPUBLICANS are putting greater emphasis on policy.)))

Life is so simple for a Democrat.

Unbelievable!

By Mad As Zell

November 20, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Who knows? Maybe Giuliani’s first act as President will be to pull the plug and shut off the life support of IN THE NEWS and then throw him and the other kool-aid drinking anti-American loons in jail for treason and providing aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime. Sounds like someone’s a been drinking a little bit too much leftist kool-aid this morning. What’s with the sick obsession with Giuliani? Do you wish that you were even an eighth of the man that Giuliani is? Punk.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Yeah, like we should trust the U.N.’s data for Global Warming too.

{{{{JOHANNESBURG, Nov. 19 — The United Nations’ top AIDS scientists plan to acknowledge this week that they have long overestimated both the size and the course of the epidemic, which they now believe has been slowing for nearly a decade, according to U.N. documents prepared for the announcement.}}

What a shocker!:

“There was a tendency toward alarmism, and that fit perhaps a certain fundraising agenda,” said Helen Epstein, author of “The Invisible Cure: Africa, the West, and the Fight Against AIDS.” “I hope these new numbers will help refocus the response in a more pragmatic way.”}}}

How did they measure the epidemic?:

Among the reasons for the overestimate is methodology; U.N. officials traditionally>>>>>>> based their national HIV estimates on infection rates among pregnant women receiving prenatal care. As a group, such women were younger, more urban, wealthier and likely to be more sexually active than populations as a whole, according to recent studies<<<<<<.

There couldn’t be another agenda at work there now could there?^^^Seriously, is this how they measure infection rates in NYC or San Franciso, for instance?

{{{Piot often wrote personal prefaces to those reports warning of the dangers of inaction, saying in 2006 that “the pandemic and its toll are outstripping the worst predictions.” But by then, several years’ worth of newer, more accurate studies already offered substantial evidence that the agency’s tools for measuring and predicting the course of the epidemic were flawed.}}}

No kidding!

By I-Was-There

November 20, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

How many of you ‘Rudy Backers’ LIVED and/or worked in NYC during Rudy’s reign? Just before Sept. 11th, he was pretty much despised in NY by one and all. He was divisive, argumentative, and overly stubborn. (Gee, sounds like the fool on the HILL).

Those of us living in NYC at the time were sick of ol’ lyin’ Rudy, and his traveling soap opera as a life (character? who calls a press conference to let his wife know he’s got a new woman and is leaving her?). Also, if you are truly a Repugnican, how can you in good conscience vote for a man who is pro-choice, and pro-civil union (the ONLY two good things about him…)

Remember: he was the one who housed the emergency dispatch in the WTC, that is, after they were bombed in 93.

And Prophetess? Please tell me you are kidding, lest I PUKE this morning. I am hoping your post is a joke…

By Anonymous

November 20, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Well, at least Mad as Zell is honest about his name—he really IS a lunatic!

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Maybe luckovich is a closet Republican and draws these things so the moonbat(ic)s® will come by and show everyone how bitter, miserable, and vile they are.

Good job, ml!

By IN THE NEWS CAN GO TO HELL (Mad As Zell)

November 20, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

During his career as a Federal Prosecutor and then as mayor of New York, Giuliani actively took on and prosecuted the mob, cleaned up the mean, crime-ridden streets of New York and made the city livable for the first time in a long time and then stood up, took charge and led the city of New York and the nation thru the post 9/11 aftermath and attended more funerals in a two-month period than any of us could even imagine. IN THE NEWS, what were you doing in the post 9/11 aftermath other than hiding under your bed drinking your buddy Jim Jones’ special-recipe leftist kool-aid, pi$$ing on yourself while crying for your mommy to come and change your soiled and urine-stained adult diaper. Pull up your panties and pull down your skirt because your liberal bias is showing and it really needs a shave. Punk. Why don’t you go to Iran and spread your anti-USA lies and propaganda if you hate America so much you dirty traitor!!!

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

Duh, RB, Double Poster, Zell, WhatEVER

Or Maybe

Please.

By @@

November 20, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Let’s face it — money and the MSM are going to elect Hillary as the Democrats’ nominee.

(((“Her negatives should be an area of concern among Democrats,” he said.)))

(((Though Clinton has a big lead in Florida over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination, she also has higher negative ratings than any other candidate in the presidential race — with 45 percent holding an unfavorable view of her compared with 38 percent favorable, the survey showed.)))

(((She fares particularly poorly among male voters. Sixty-two percent of men said they would not support the New York senator, who in a recent speech denounced the “all-boys’ club of presidential politics.”)))

Now granted, women like her. I had a friend tell me recently that she was gonna vote for Hillary. “Why” I asked. Her response? very “SIMPLY” put….”Because she’s a woman.”

Duhhhhhhh…

(((If Giuliani fails to win the Republican nomination, the survey showed the race more of a tossup, within the poll’s margin of error, with Clinton narrowly trailing Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney.)))

(((Thompson would defeat Clinton 48 percent to 44 percent, while Romney edges Clinton 46 percent to 45 percent, according to the survey.)))

(((The poll showed that the Democrats’ decision to duck Florida could shadow the eventual nominee next year.)))

(((Statewide, 26 percent of independent voters and 33 percent of undecided voters said they would be less likely to support a candidate who didn’t campaign in Florida in advance of the primary.)))

(((Told that only Democrats were avoiding the state, 27 percent of independents and 25 percent of undecideds said they would be less likely to vote for the Democratic nominee.)))

(((“This poll codified what we already knew: Hillary Clinton is out of touch with mainstream Florida, and voters are angry at the Democratic candidates for boycotting Florida and using the state as their own personal ATM machines,” said Jim Greer, Florida Republican Party chairman.)))

I know that’s a “redo” but we are talking Florida.

Just my little pin in the liberal “cushions”.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

{{{By I-Was-There

November 20, 2007 8:54 AM

How many of you ‘Rudy Backers’ LIVED and/or worked in NYC during Rudy’s reign?}}}

I did! I was also there for Limosine Liberal Lindsay, Beame, Wagner, Koch, and Dinkins so I had a great point of comparison. Indeed, Rudy’s positive results had such a tangible effect that I dumped the Democrat Party and have never looked back.

Rudy saved New York from the abject decay of decades of liberal rule, and I can think of no other politician in my lifetime who had such an immediate and positive effect on the quality of life of the citizens whose lives he was entrusted to govern.

I will be posting details of his magnificent accomplishments shortly…

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Why can’t the right divulge their sources? Are the ashamed of them?

All that (((( and )))) is so… DUH-ISH.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

November 20, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

THANK YOU JESUS!

Last week I prayed for this on this very blog!

This cartoon confirms that my prayers have been answered. I prayed for it at Sonny’s prayer vigil.

ITS RAINING MEN!!!

Hallelujah!

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

ITFS,

If you lived up to the name you give yourself you would already know the sources. Once again you prove that you’re nothing but an ill informed leftist moron which is why the name I gave you is much more fitting.

By @@

November 20, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Here we go…

(((I like Mike Huckabee, I think he’s a decent person and I am fine with 90% of his positions. But I am not sure he has the fire to go up against the Clinton machine and take them down. In fact of all the candidates, the only one that is good in the tough campaigner category is Rudy Giuliani. This alone is probably explanation enough as to why he is leading the pack.)))

It really is gonna be fun. I’ve never seen Rudy REALLY GO AFTER somebody. Grrrrrrrrr!

I get all tingly just thinking about it.

I like Mike too. Make him your VP Rudy. A perfect balance.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

The mind of a liberal:

{{When Giuliani’s predecessor, David Dinkins, came into office—thanks to voters’ hopes that as the city’s first black mayor, he’d defuse Gotham’s intense racial tensions—he wholly embraced the War on Poverty’s core belief that the problems of the urban poor sprang from vast external forces over which neither they nor the politicians had much control. Under Dinkins, the city’s welfare rolls grew by one-third, or some 273,000 people. By 1992, with some 1.1 million New Yorkers on welfare, the city’s political leadership seemed stuck on dependency, too. Dinkins became the chief proponent of a tin-cup urbanism, constantly hounding Washington and Albany with demands and grim warnings about what would happen if they were not met.}}

Dinkins’s political philosophy substituted can’t-do fatalism for the can-do optimism that had made New York great. As crime spiked—there were 2,262 murders in Dinkins’s first year, compared with fewer than 600 in 1963, two years before Lindsay became mayor—Dinkins declared: “If we had a police officer on every other corner, we couldn’t stop some of the random violence that goes on,” since it resulted from poverty and racism, not poor policing.

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

RW

and a pleasant morning to you too!

By mm

November 20, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

@@,

The dems are staying out of Florida because the DNC stripped Florida of its convention votes because Florida moved up it’s primary to Feb.

Nice to read the wingnut spin on that one, though.

And I see most of the wingnuts on this blog missed their meds today.

By Bomb Iran Now!

November 20, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

BOMB IRAN NOW!!!

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Good morning ITFS. How are little IN THE COMICS and the lovely IN THE HOME AND GARDEN doing this fine morning?

By Reality

November 20, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Rudy is a fake hero, like almost all Neocon Repuke Scum. They take the credit for heroic acts while other guys take the risks. For example, the Chimp in Chief flying as a passenger on a fighter jet to land on an air craft carrier to declare Mission Accomplished, as though the Chimp has ever engaged in aerial combat. I believe he once had the chance to do so, but chicken out, choosing to be AWOL, drunk, drugged out of his mind, and serving as a sex toy for his former frat brothers and their pals. So much for the neoscum fake heros.

By Paul

November 20, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

In the News 8:19

We’ve been over this before. The Chief Executive does not comment on pending or inprocess criminal cases as he has the power to pardon. Premature comments will taint the process and could lead to nonprosecution - Nixon learned that. So those with a good chance of winning the office - on a case that would be current when they took office - are being prudent by not commenting.

But if your only objective is to try to make Rudy look half as evasive as Hillary, well, I suppose you’ll continue recycling the links.

Says something, too, about the intellectual capacity of those writing those articles -

@@ 8:32

Can you imagine these same people (Democratic voters picking candidates base on personality, not policy) if they were denied a promotion at work - lost out to someone else - because, while no one’s work did more for the company, new accounts, increased margins, restructured processes - the other person was more fun to be around?

Wait a minute… if it’s personality… why isn’t Obama leading everyone else in the polls?

I Was There 8:54

[[Rudy… was pretty much despised in NY)

Riiiight. That’s why a Republican mayor in a Democratic town was elected mayor. Twice. Because ‘everybody’ despised him.

Your second paragraph sounds like you’re one of those who makes decisions based upon personality and personal issues, not policy.

Buy Danish

I’ve heard similar from other New Yorkers. Maybe not the changing parties part, but not really liking him, then ending up with (grudging) respect. Some even say (NYC liberal Dems) they’d consider voting for him for Pres. Frankly, I think his possible strength as a candidate (socially liberal) scares more than a few Democrats.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

November 20, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

I sure hope they have a Tom Brady balloon in the parade this year. He’s a real patriot. (It would also be an answer to another one of my prayers.)

In fact I could give them pointers on how to blow the Tom Brady balloon up.

I’ve had lots of practice blowing up my life size replica ‘Tom Brady Home Blow up Balloon.’ (Almost every night since the incident.) It would be a lot harder blowing up one that big, a lot harder.

By Bomb Israel Now

November 20, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Save America, Nuke Israel NOW.

By Bosch

November 20, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Nice toon - holiday appropriate.

The Macy’s parade is a family favorite. Hopefully there won’t be a Rudy balloon though, although he has enough hot air to fill one.

By Laughing at Neocons

November 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

ha ha ha

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

I wonder if “I was there” was a squeegee man.

As mayor, he instituted a “zero tolerance” approach that cracked down on quality-of-life offenses like panhandling and public urination (in a city where some streets reeked of urine), in order to restore a sense of civic order that he believed would discourage larger crimes. “Murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes,” he explained. “But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other.” He linked the Dinkins era’s permissive climate, which tolerated the squeegee men (street-corner windshield cleaners who coerced drivers into giving them money at the entrances to Manhattan), to the rise of more serious crime. “The police started ignoring all kinds of offenses,” Giuliani later recounted of the Dinkins years. They “became,” he deadpanned, “highly skilled observers of crime.”

The Chicken Little Liberals predictions proved wrong once again:

{{{Civil rights advocates warned that Giuliani’s promise to deprive the squeegee men of their $40–100 weekly shakedown might drive them to more violent crime; in effect, they endorsed a lesser form of criminality, hoping that it would forestall more serious crime. The city’s newspapers were happy to print threats from squeegee men, like this one: “I feel like if I can’t hustle honestly, I’ve got to go back to doing what I used to do … robbing and stealing.” But the squeegee-men campaign provided Giuliani with his first significant victory, showing a beleaguered citizenry that government actually could bring about change for the better. Within months, the squeegee men disappeared.}}}

By Mad As Zell

November 20, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Pat Robertson was right…we should have killed Hugo Chavez two years ago. Now he’s become a totalitarian cheerleader for the worldwide anti-USA lobby.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

{{Wait a minute… if it’s personality… why isn’t Obama leading everyone else in the polls?}}

Paul, don’t you know that this week’s polls in Iowa show that OBAMA IS #1… Hillary in 2nd, Edwards in 3rd. Obama’s numbers are rising and Hillary’s are falling. At least for this week.

By Bosch

November 20, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t think Rudy’s position on social issues scares Democrats as it does Republicans. Rudy’s nomination will most likely split the party (if it hasn’t happened already).

Whose raising more money? That’s the key with whose going to win.

Democrats and most Independents know the Rudy is just another Bush clone in terms of foreign policy and the war. That’s why approval ratings are so low for everyone - Congress included. Rudy’s nomination will be a Democrats dream.

I personally think he took the Bush position in the early stages of the war because he thought it would win him votes, and now it’s too late to flip.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

CNN must really hate it that Iowans have apparently seen through their little Hillary campaign event disguised as a debate.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

{{Pat Robertson was right…}}

Mad Zell— and Pat Robertson certainly knows about dictators, yes? Not only is he backing the Rudy-dictator this primary, he has also had a full-blown love affair with the dictator of Liberia:

(CBS) Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson accused President Bush of “undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels” by asking Liberian President Charles Taylor, recently indicted for war crimes, to step down.

I think if Robertson had a stake in Venezuela’s oil, he would also be in love with Hugo Chavez, too…

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

How Rudy brought down the crime rate:

Giuliani changed the primary mission of the police department to preventing crime from happening rather than merely responding to it once it had occurred. His police chief, William Bratton, reorganized the NYPD, emphasizing a street-crimes unit that moved around the city, flooding high-crime areas and getting guns off the street. Bratton also changed the department’s scheduling. Crime was open for business 24 hours a day, but most detectives, including narcotics cops, had previously gone off duty at 5 pm, just as criminals were coming on duty. No more.

That ^^^is a perfect illustration of how a liberal bureaucracy functions.

Let’s examine the results of the Rudy Revolution:

{{{The policing innovations led to a historic drop in crime far beyond what anyone could have imagined, with total crime down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years, and murder (the most reliable crime statistic) down 67 percent, from 1,960 in Dinkins’s last year to 640 in Giuliani’s last year. The number of cars stolen in New York City every year plummeted by an astounding 78,000.}}}

By Laughing at Mad Zell

November 20, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Save America, Nuke Israel Now, Mad Zell. and take your filthy hand off my wallet. Stealing for israel is still stealing Mad Zell.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

{{because he thought it would win him votes, and now it’s too late to flip.}}

Bosch— it probably won’t be too long before Rudy does the flip, and then the big flop, on Bush’s war. My question is, which of the Repug candidates will do that flip-flopping first???

By getalife

November 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

The real heroes of 9/11 are outraged that this moron has the nerve to run on the worst terror attack on this country. He attended baseball games.

They will will run ads against him and he has huge corruption problem.

The reason why Congress does not listen to the people is because they vote for idiots like rudy and w.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Meet the naysayers. Bwak bwak bwak bwak bwak bwak:

Criminologists tried to dismiss this achievement by arguing that the police have little influence on crime. The crime drop, they contended, was merely the fruit of an improving national economy, though the decline preceded the city’s economic rebound by several years. Others argued that New York was just riding a demographic trend, as the population of teenagers prone to break the law declined. One criminologist even suggested that Giuliani’s New York would soon see another upsurge, as a new cohort of children reached the teen years. “I don’t need a crystal ball,” the criminologist confidently predicted. Instead, crime declined relentlessly over Giuliani’s eight years, even when it rose nationally.

{{{Critics, especially those on the left, have tried to minimize Giuliani’s accomplishment by claiming that he lowered crime by letting cops oppress black and Latino New Yorkers with brute force. As evidence, they point to unfortunate incidents such as the shootings of unarmed black immigrants Amadou Diallo and Patrick Dorismond. But the data tell a far different story: Giuliani’s NYPD managed to drive down crime while showing admirable restraint. From 1995 to 2000, civilian complaints of excessive force by the NYPD declined from one complaint per ten officers to one per 19 officers. Meanwhile, shootings by cops declined by 50 percent and were far lower under Giuliani than under Dinkins—lower in fact than in cities like San Diego and Houston, hailed for practicing community policing.}}}

By Paul

November 20, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Goldie

That was more a smiley comment about the personalities of the two.

I saw that for Iowa. I meant more nationally. I saw another poll (I think it’s the CBS News) that said something along the order of less than half think Hillary says what she thinks and most thinks she says what she thinks the audience wants to hear. Obama - over 80 percent think his says what he thinks and few think he changes his tune based upon the audience.

But most think Hillary’s more likely to win the general election. That’s a shame - as far as a reason to vote for someone. Realistic, maybe - but philosophically? I mentioned to one person about a past vote I cast for Pres. His response was “why waste your vote?” I replied it’s about voting your convictions.

Bosch

Yeah money speaks. I’ll sound like a worn-out jabberer by saying… full Federal funding.

As far as splitting Reps, I think the social conservatives will either not vote (possible) or pick the lesser of two evils (more likely).

It’d be nice if we could get back to the days of socially moderate/liberal Reps and foreign policy conservative Dems. Although if this election shapes up, we may be on the road to that.

I meant “scare” in the sense Rudy could be a more viable alternative to Hillary for many undecideds/moderate Dems than, say, Romney. Not that undecideds or moderate Dems would have anything other than a policy difference with Romney (sarc). Same goes for conservative Christian Reps.

I’m not sure how this whole ‘war’ thing will play out. I assume you’re referring to Iraq. There could be a sea change in perception of voters over the next six months. Frankly, as far as pursuing the war against jihadists (not counting how it’s handled domestically) I’m not sure there’s a whole big difference between the frontrunners of either party. Hillary and Obama are both going to great pains to appear tough and resolute.

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

A sunny good morning all!

I guess “Rain man’s” Prayer-a-thon wasn’t heartfelt enough. Nary a drop in sight…

Prophetess, kudos to you for the excellent YF references. (MY! What knockers! Why thank you, doctor.)

GREAT toon, Mike! And on so many levels. Rudy’s head/ego is big enough to fill up Broadway. Like the other New Yorker in the race, he is IMHO completely without credibility. And now one can’t help but doubt his integrity, as well.

Rudy’s child won’t even vote for him?! How in the Sam Hill are the neo-cons going to spin this guy as a “family values” candidate?!!!

{…this election season; REPUBLICANS are putting greater emphasis on policy…}

And that’s EXACTLY why they are viewed so negatively by the majority of American voters! It IS the policies, stupid! Read my lips - no new neo-cons!

Funny how a couple of the more strident here proudly declaim they are ex-Democrats.

I am as well.

But to think that this insanely inept GOP is a superior alternative?!!! Wowzers! I guess some just like that mesmerizing sound of jack boots marching in unison…

By @@

November 20, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Sure Paul, I can imagine that. Democrats live on dreams. It doesn’t matter to them that promises aren’t fulfilled as long as their candidates offer a long baited line. They’ll bite and hang on for dear life all the while being reeled in to provide a bountiful fish fry for the politicians. They never stop to realize that they’re the fish. Politicians can offer a better tomorrow for them cause their today is always suckin’.

Obama? He really doesn’t have a personality that appeals to me. Not the kinda guy who’s willing to go toe to toe. He lacks fire but he’s good dancer, politically speaking.

Hell, if Hillary can make mincemeat out of him imagine what a Putin, Ahmadenijad, Assad or a Chavez could do.

Nope, Obama wouldn’t be my choice if I were a Democrat. He needs more time in the Lion’s Den. He’s just a cub.

I’d go with Biden even though I don’t agree with him on many issues. I get the impression he’s not misleading.

By getalife

November 20, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

” Scott McClellan wrote a book. Here is part of what he has to say:

“The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

“There was one problem. It was not true.

“I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President’s chief of staff, and the president himself.”

Told ya they were traitors.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

{{I saw that for Iowa. I meant more nationally.}}

Paul, I believe that the “bounce” from winning Iowa will deflate some of Hillary’s inevitability factor… we’ll see! Same thing with Romney or Huckabee projected to win in Iowa— will be deflation time for Rudy.

By Bosch

November 20, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

I think it’s interesting that Ron Paul is low in the polls, but he is against the war. For some reason, I trust him - he seems genuine - call it a vibe, I wish more candidates could be like him. I certainly do not like his social conservatism, but I respect people who don’t tow the party line (on either side).

I think Rudy does that, and I like that in him. If he would change his stance on the war, I might consider voting for him.

I don’t have a problem with Rudy’s marriage indiscretions either just like I didn’t have a problem with Clinton’s. If they had just admitted it, then who cares? It’s none of mine or anyone else’s business. I think most of us know people who’ve been in the same situations, people who are good people.

I know there are lots of people who don’t hold my same social views, but I respect that. If the conservatives were truly honest in less government, they wouldn’t try to control people’s personal lives, and if that were the case, I’m not so sure that I wouldn’t be a Republican myself. I was talking to a friend of mine who lives in Germany the other day and he is truly amazed at how we have gay marriage on our ballots - if you really think about it, it’s totally ridiculous.

But I digress. I think whoever wins the Republican nomination is going to have to cave a bit on the war issue - and it seems to me the sooner they start the better so that they don’t seem disingenuous about it.

By getalife

November 20, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

She will lose Iowa and win all the others to get the nomination.

willard will win Iowa and Paul may win New Hampshire.

I have no idea who will win the gop and don’t care. They are all running on w’s disasters except Paul.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

I heard some NY firefighters speaking on TV last night… one of them stated that Rudy was on the streets of NY because he had no place else to go to work— he’d lost his command center that he created at the World Trade Center after the first bombing of ‘93!

My, my— Rudy was quite the “visionary” to not foresee 9/11 coming, hmmm??? Also, what the heck did he ever do after the ‘93 bombing to protect NYC from any future attacks? NADA.

By Goldie

November 20, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

{{I think it’s interesting that Ron Paul is low in the polls, but he is against the war.}}

Bosch— and that’s the sole reason he IS low in the Repug polls. They’re all a bunch of war-mongerers, ‘cept for him… if the Repugs have their way, we’ll be fighting and occupying “over there” for the next decade or two, at the least!

By getalife

November 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Yep, and the radios did not work.

He did attend baseball games.

rudy is worse than w and running on the same positions.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Meet Giuliani, the fiscal conservative:

{{{Giuliani’s first budget, submitted just weeks after he took office, stunned the city’s political establishment by its fiscal conservatism. To demonstrate his disdain for the reigning orthodoxy, when the New York Times editorial board urged him to solve the budget crisis with tax and fee increases that a Dinkins-era special commission had recommended, Giuliani unceremoniously dumped a copy of the commission’s report into the garbage and derided it as “old thinking.” It was a pointed declaration that a very different set of ideas would guide his administration}}}

A classic Rudy gesture. Bravo!

Rudy takes on Albany and the Unions:

To balance the city’s budget early in his tenure, when tax revenues stagnated amid a struggling economy, the mayor played hardball, winning concessions from city workers that other mayors had failed to get. The city’s police unions had used their power in Albany to resist efforts by ex-mayors Koch and Dinkins to merge the city’s housing police and transit police into the NYPD. Giuliani strong-armed Albany leaders into agreeing to the merger, saving the city hundreds of millions in administrative costs and making the department a better crime-fighting unit, by threatening to fire every housing and transit officer and rehire each as a city cop if legislative leaders did not go along. Similarly, though the city’s garbagemen, many of whom worked only half days because their department was so overstaffed, had rebuffed the Dinkins administration’s push for productivity savings, Giuliani won $300 million in savings from them by threatening to contract out trash collection to private companies. Ultimately, with such deals, Giuliani reduced city-funded spending by 1.6 percent his first year in office, the largest overall reduction in city spending since the Depression.

By Bosch

November 20, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Yes, I agree with you about the jihadist war, I mean who wants to have another terrorist attack? I’ve always thought it ridiculous that people try to insinuate that Dems are soft on defense. Clinton reduced the military, but in this day and age, anyone with a brain knows you can’t do that anymore.

I’m glad to see the tides change in Iraq, and hopefully things will continue to improve so that we can turn the reigns over. It’s always been my position to focus more in Afghanistan (and now Pakistan), so I hope that’s what will start happening.

Oh my God - I’ve got so much to do and I’m sitting here distracted by blogging! I have about 25 people coming over Thursday and my house looks like a bomb went off in it. The other Bosch is going to divorce me if I don’t get up and help. I’ll sneak back later when I need a break. The other Bosch thinks our home has to be of the Martha Stewart variety during the holidays and my reminders that Martha is a convicted felon don’t seem to make any difference.

Later!

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Do you really think Ron Paul is a social conservative? I don’t know too much about him in that regard, but he’s very much a libertarian so I find it hard to believe that would go hand in hand with being a social conservative.

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

The global warming denyists in the GOP are clearly completely out of touch with reality on this AND many other issues as well.

(64% of Americans according to the latest Gallup Poll, think that the economy is lousy, because of high gas prices, angst about globalization and outsourcing, and worries that their home is dropping in value. Yet the Republican candidates talk about everything being rosy.)

Of course, many of our elected “conservative” “leaders” deny global warming, but 80% of NH Republicans say they would raise taxes to address the problem. Something seems very strange, doesn’t it neo-cons?

The Republicans are the only remaining major center-right party in the ENTIRE world that has not moved on this issue.

Read my lips - NO NEW NEO-CONS.

By Bosch

November 20, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

One last post (I’m such a procrastinator), but I wrote that wrong about Paul (Ron, not blogger) - of course that’s why he’s so low in the Republican polls and that’s really unfortunate that more Republicans won’t follow his lead.

Later again!

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

November 20, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Speaking of Tom Brady….. Like Tom I fancy myself as a champion. I am a different kind of champion than Tom Brady. I’m a champion of “Family Values”. Thats why I must protest. Let me tell you why, watching Tom Brady in Hi-Def was excruciating! That pair of tight pants he had on was beyond decency! I was flabbergasted. Those tight pants of his left NOTHING to the imagination. NOTHING.

The FCC must enforce tighter standards and insist that the networks fuzz out the players rear ends during their broadcasts. Disgusting.

If the FCC won’t do anything about it I will introduce legislation that requires football players to wear small skirts. This really makes me hot.

By Paul

November 20, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Same here. I’ve got to get on the road in a couple of hours. Forget Martha Stewart - I finally talked the family into using some paper products for various meals over the next few days.

RW-(the original)

Yeah, Ron Paul’s different, he speaks straight, but the guy’s a hard core Libertarian. His positions on a variety of seldom-talked about issues would give even people with mild Libertarian tendencies pause. An out-and-out social conservative he is not.

Well, time to get ready. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, all. Being with family, bringing in a couple who would otherwise be alone, living in a country where we can converse like this - yes, there is truly much to be thankful for.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

The 9/11 response:

In the weeks following the attacks, Giuliani became both the cheerleader of New York’s efforts to pick itself up and the voice of moral outrage about the attacks. Giuliani exhorted private institutions within the city—the stock exchanges, the Broadway theaters—to resume operations and urged the rest of America and the world to come visit the city. Not waiting for federal aid, the city rapidly began a cleanup of the World Trade Center site, which proceeded ahead of schedule, and of the devastated neighborhood around the site, which reopened block by block in the weeks after the attacks. Meanwhile, the mayor led visiting heads of state on tours of the devastation, because, he said, “You can’t come here and be neutral.” He addressed the United Nations on the new war against terrorism, warning the delegates: “You’re either with civilization or with terrorists.” When a Saudi prince donated millions to relief efforts but later suggested that United States policy in the Middle East may have been partially responsible for the attacks, Giuliani returned the money, observing that there was “no moral equivalent” for the unprecedented terrorist attack. He attended dozens of funerals of emergency workers killed in the towers’ collapse, leading the city not just in remembrance but in catharsis.

Yes, he went to a Yankees game too. The unity and moving patriotism that brought New Yorkers together that night must have been deeply offensive to libs like Getalife.

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

getalife, I agree completely that the GOP candidates are all (save Paul) incredibly, almost inexplicably, running on Bush’s unquestionably failed record and the same positions that will almost certainly earn him the distinction of the worst American President in our nation’s history!!!

For me, this is one of the great disappointments so far in this race.

I have contended and will continue to do so, that it is the Republican Party that offers the most hope to this country.

BUT…ONLY IF the new bucks coming up can and will show some courage and vision and repudiate this ridiculous so-called neo-conservative agenda and reinvent themselves as the sane, rational party of Lincoln.

How can this party even expect to retain any power or even basic credibility, when they KNOW that most Americans are both dissatisfied with their abysmal track record and their insistence on continuing to include the same old tired and failed neo-con planks in their platform?!

Because they’re not Democrats?!! That just ain’t getting it anymore.

I also agree with Bosch, the single biggest issue in this election is of course this mangled occupation. I have exceptionally few political litmus tests, but this debacle is one. And one where I will not tolerate another incompetent chickenhawk.

Regime change in America is at hand. Read my lips - no new neo-cons.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Have a very Happy Thanksgiving!

By The Watcher

November 20, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Heard a great one about Rudy.

Why do all the pictures of him on 9/11 show him running around in the streets? Simple, they BLEW UP his headquarters, so wisely put in the Trade Center.

Hell of a job Rudy.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Yes, I agree with Code Pinko on this one, if you compare Rudy to Shrillary, he does seem like a great big giant person.

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During a week when normal people gather together to give thanks and praise to their Creator for the blessings of the greatest country on Earth, no other even compares to the United States, doesn’t it figure that the libs at the Whiney Times would go on a crying jag?:

{{{{THANKSGIVING CHARITY: First-timer crowd stresses food banks, Across the nation, operators of free food banks say they are seeing more working people needing assistance.-Urinal}}}}

{{{{A ‘CRISIS’ FOR BRAIN INJURY VICTIMS: NOWHERE TO TURN –Urinal}}}}

{{{{NATION IN BRIEF: Heart disease death rates fail to fall-Urinal}}}}

{{{{Destruction’s scope widening-Urinal}}}}

The Psychos of Sorrow.

Is it any wonder that your common pinko is such an angry, vicious little person?

The weight of the “whole world” is on their stupid shoulders.

If there isn’t a sob story out there, they will create one.

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It just keeps getting better for America:

{{{{In a potential matchup with Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, Giuliani wins 50-43 percent.}}}}

{{{{Clinton is the only candidate, Democrat or Republican, with higher unfavorable than favorable ratings; 45 percent of voters have an unfavorable opinion of her, while 38 percent have a favorable opinion.}}}}

See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya.

By ray

November 20, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

great comedy, bi danish. your efforts at pushing the cross-dressing, pro-abortion, once married to his kin, republikan giuliani are most amusing. thanks. ha. please tell us about his relationship to hugo chavez. ha.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

{{{{Al Gore, the Jim Jones of this new religious cult, preaches doom and gloom from his pettifogger pulpit, all the while living the lifestyle of an energy hog. He actually uses twice the amount of electricity in one month at his Nashville home than the average household uses in an entire year. He has two homes in Tennessee, one in Virginia, at least. He flies all over the world on his Magical Hysteria Tour, sucking down resources and belching out tons of carbon, all to tell us we need to conserve. We’re trying to make ends meet just to afford gas in our cars while Al Gore has a carbon footprint the size of Sasquatch. And no one seems to care.}}}}

{{{{The Branch Algorians read from the Gospel of Al and never question a word. The movement’s devil is carbon dioxide, an essential component of photosynthesis and the substance we all exhale with every breath. Understand this: CO2 is not a pollutant. However, Gore and the radical environmentalists have been quite successful in convincing people that smog and CO2 are the same. They are not. CO2 has nothing whatsoever to do with the smog or haze we see over our cities. There is absolutely no evidence that CO2 has anything to do with any kind of warming.}}}}

{{{{You see, global warming is the perfect template for Marxism because it’s the great equalizer. The wealthier a nation, the more CO2 it produces. To atone for its sins, it must pay carbon offsets. In other words, the producing nations pay the non-producing or under-producing nations in cash for the sin of emitting a harmless gas. It’s beautiful.}}}}

I couldn’t have said that better myself.

But I have.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Look at this lib lying his as-s off:

{{{{This has caused the price of ethanol to crash from overproduction, while at the same time increased demand for corn to produce ethanol has raised corn prices and reduced the availability of corn for food, raising food prices. Our preoccupation with letting the free market determine our national energy policy is wasteful folly and not in the public interest. We need sustainable national energy policy legislated now.}}}}

Government has MANDATED the use of ethanol and are the ones you can thank for making things worse.

Where does this wormy little pinko get off lying like that, who does he think he’s fooling?

Oh, the dumbas-s democrat America haters, I forgot.

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{{{{The juvenile game that the left has been playing for years underpins most of Gerson’s harrumphing. It boils down to the idea that, if you don’t endorse our specific proposals for expanding the federal government, then, well, you just don’t care about people.}}}}

Neumayr’s back!

{{{{Yet such sophistical blather is the foundation on which Gerson makes his case. He describes those who oppose his specific ideas as “anti-government.” No, they just think the federal government is likely to make problems worse and damage the common good. And by “anti-government,” he is referring to the federal government. His “anti-government” strawmen – among which we should count ourselves — support a larger role for state and local government in accordance with the principles of the Constitution.}}}}

Stick around George, we need you.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

{{{{While Clinton has been an outspoken liberal activist since the 1960s, she never has run a business, a city, a state, or a Cabinet department. She was a partner at Little Rock’s Rose Law Firm, but did not administer it. Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families aside, she headed none of the non-profits whose boards her website says she joined.}}}}

{{{{While she conducted President Clinton’s health reform task force in 1993, the plan it concocted in secret collapsed in public. This 1,368-page prescription for government medicine quietly vanished, sparing a Democratic congress the embarrassment of euthanizing it.}}}}

The democrat party; We won’t make you feel stupid!

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{{{{Despite the ravaged landscape, the panel still had a positive outlook. Far from being a nest of clucking prudes deriding the indiscretions of “kids these days,” these women were concerned about the waves of depression and sexually transmitted disease that are sweeping over our young women. They placed their disapproval not upon the girls so much as the school systems and parents that failed to teach them the buzz about the birds and the bees, and called upon college students to expose incidences of these prejudices in universities so that they could be reversed.}}}}

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Oh man, the Republicans are getting warmed up:

{{{{Hugh Hewitt: I don’t think this stuff gets talked enough about, and I’m going to do it with Giuliani as well, because we elect administrations. And if we elect these Democrats, you know how many lunatics they’re going to bring to D.C. with them? I mean, just mad as hatter people? }}}}

I do.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

ray of a thousand names @ 11:35,

I realize this is so last century, but if marrying cousins is problematic for you, here’s a little factoid for ya:

Anna Eleanor Roosevelt was born on October 11, 1884 in New York City. Her father was Elliott Roosevelt, the younger brother of President Theodore Roosevelt.

just sayin’.

By the way, I hadn’t realized until now that you are a social con who also bucks the Hollywood liberals and doesn’t approve of Chavez. briefly represented Citgo, which is based in Houston, Texas and has thousands of American employees. If you have any evidence that he has a “relationship” with Chavez, let’s have it!

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

{{{{By RW-(the original) November 19, 2007 5:56 PM {{{{{my family reads this.}}}}-by IN THE FEVER SWAMPS They must be really proud of your mad cut and paste skillz, ITFS.}}}}

RW: What an easily excitable family that must be, eh?

And can’t you just imagine the evening gatherings, little IN THE WANT ADS says, “Daddy, I found an article about a man who changed a flat tire on 75 North, can I post it for you, please, CAN I, CAN I, IU WANT TO CLUTTER UP THE BLOG TOO!

Or if luck would have steered our resident mindless spammer to the Kraft Food’s Recipes Blog and he squatted on it like he does here: “The IN THE KRAFT RECIPE BOOK’S family banana split- After placing the bananas in the bowl, put several scoops of vanilla ice cream on top of them, cover that with Kraft Whip Topping, sprinkle liberally with pecan pieces and then top with several cloves of garlic.”

They’d be laughing at him just like we are, hahahahaha.

By @@

November 20, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Rudy appeals to young voters too. He’s not so staunchy. Hillary seems kind of matronly don’tcha think?

(((“I like his pragmatic approach,” said the New Jersey native, who was in middle school when Giuliani led New York City during and after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. “Looking at what he did for New York, it seems like his economic approach works practically.”)))

(((Giuliani’s moderate social record may explain why his younger supporters skew female more than those of other Republicans. “I consider myself a conservative, but I do have more moderate leanings, and [Giuliani] embodies some of that,” said Holly Stone, 26, a state employee in Tallahassee, Fla. “Some of the other, more conservative, candidates make abortion too much of an issue.”)))

(((Though Stone says she is personally anti-abortion, she opposes the repeal of Roe v. Wade. And while Stone will likely vote for any Republican nominee, she typifies the post-culture-war attitude of many of her peers in saying that she prefers Giuliani’s emphasis on national security over moral values.)))

(((J.R. Santo, a 19-year-old Dartmouth sophomore from Queens, N.Y., echoed Lim’s sentiments on Giuliani’s mayoral record and social views. “Managing a huge city like New York is a lot like managing a country,” Santo offered.)))

(((He also feels more comfortable with Giuliani’s social views than with those of his primary competitors. “I do think he’s more along the moderate lines, even though he’s trying to appeal to the hard-line conservative vote. I think socially he is a moderate.”)))

(((As for national prospects in the general election, Rasmussen seconds Smith’s analysis of the New Hampshire primary. “Hillary Clinton is the defining force in the general election,” he said. “Against every Republican, Clinton gets between 46 and 49 percent.”)))

(((Giuliani campaign officials have tracked similar levels of support among young voters. “We see [it] in our internal polling as well as public polls,” said strategy director Brent Seaborn. “Some of our biggest rallies are on college campuses. Some of our best field offices are in towns with large universities.”)))

(((And Seaborn also believes that, beyond simple name recognition, many young people have a favorable impression of Giuliani because of his presence and leadership on and after Sept. 11, 2001. “People under 35 reached political maturity at a time when Mayor Giuliani was a leader

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Woops, I inadvertently cut off a few words from my message to raving ray:

Insert: {{Rudy’s firm}} briefly represented Citgo…

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Yet more great news and compelling evidence that the Neanderthals here are a dying species, even among their own political brethren.

Here’s a summary of where the GOP candidates are on the issue of man-induced global warming:

John McCain and Rudy Giuliani are clear proponents of the position that global warming is happening and caused by human activity.

Of the second tier candidates, you have Mike Huckabee who is probably to the left of McCain and Giuliani. The former candidate Sam Brownback is also on the side of taking action to address global warming.

As usual, Mitt Romney is straddling the fence of the issue, although his recent position suggests that he will be willing to cooperate with people in the party who are opposed to interventions.

And Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich are on the record as skeptics.

So, the top tier of candidates (Giuliani, McCain, Thompson, and Romney) is split, with Thompson being the only real skeptic. And much of the serious 2nd tier is with or to the left of McCain and Giuliani.

In November and December, the Mellman Group surveyed likely Republican and Democratic voters, 400 of each, for two climate awareness groups: Clear the Air and the New Hampshire-based Clean Air-Cool Planet.

SEVENTY PERCENT OF REPUBLICANS and 94 percent of Democrats called global warming a serious threat.

Ninety-six percent of Democrats and 82 PERCENT OF REPUBLICANS said the United States should take action now to reduce emissions.

As of yesterday, 143 New Hampshire communities had approved language calling on Washington to take action to slow U.S. emissions of greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide. Eight towns had rejected it and at least 25 have yet to vote.

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Please Duh!

OR

404-260-1318

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

GOP front-runners turn down opportunity to blog for vets

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

November 20, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Right on Luckoduh! Its the hypocrisy. It’s no different than claiming to value the sanctity of human life and then being pro-war and indifferent to the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians or even your own soldiers. You either care about life or you don’t. You can’t have it both ways can you Luck?

I’ve heard that the US military has the authority to bomb any site in Iraq or Afghanistan so long as the innocent death toll (collateral damage) is expected to be less than 25 people. If its expected to be more than the President has to make the call.

Which raises an intersting question:

If Osama Bin Laden broke into your house during Thanksgiving dinner while your wife, parents, kids and grandkids were there would you think it would be ok to bomb your house off the face of the earth or would that be murder? Or is it murder only if its your house, but its ok if its Omar’s house in Afghanistan?

Just wondering.

RWNJIFG

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Did GOP Gerrymander Itself Out of Power?

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

TERROR

TERROR

TERROR

Despite Lacking ‘Specific Information,’ Townsend Claims Al Qaeda May Target 2008 Elections

TERROR

TERROR

TERROR

By ajc hall monitor

November 20, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Attention AJC hall monitor, PLEASE MONITOR!!! A couple these folksies are off their meds today!

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Iraqis Joining Insurgency Less for Cause Than Cash

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

Just think what it’s like wherever IN THE HALLMARK CARD STORE is blogging.

By ray

November 20, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

bi danish: hysterical - you really ought to be on stage. show me where giuliani cut off his association with the group when it became common knowlege that they work for terrorists.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS November 20, 2007 11:58 AM Please Duh! OR 404-260-1318}}}}}

Spam Master N: Are you following child labor laws over there at Spam Central?

You wouldn’t want to be the subject of a front page Urinal sob story, would you?

And as far as your favorite charity goes, I’ll be sure to throw myself into a pit of despair just as soon as I’m through writing this rather large check to the government.

It sure must cost a lot to keep you no account, lazy as-s, “global warming” scare mongering wards of state liberals paid off, it don’t leave much money left for anything else.

Like taking care of the TRULY needy.

Front page story on that, AJC?

By Dusty

November 20, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Thank you for giving us factual information on Rudy. That was really helpful. I have always thought he had leadership qualities that we need. Your information confirms that for me.

He’s going to be a good one in 2008!!

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Come on Duh

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Hey RW

By Bosch

November 20, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

RW,

It seems you are right about Ron Paul. I’ve never really understood what a Libertarian is anyway. I guess I consider anyone who is pro-life to be a social conservative, maybe not the best position, but it’s kind of like you say, a knee jerk reaction. His website didn’t say, or at least I didn’t see his stance on gay marriage, but I find that to be a ridiculous “political” issue to begin with. Maybe he does too and that’s why he doesn’t mention it. I know there are alot of other “social” issues than those two, but I don’t have time right now to go into that.

He mentioned alot of other things on his website, that I disagree with, but also, several things I do agree with.

Okay, my break is over. The other Bosch will be in here any minute now!

By Scoreboard

November 20, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Wed…..76 degrees….. 0.00 rain

Thu…..65 degrees….. .21 rain

Fri…..54 degrees….. 0.00 rain

Sat…..61 degrees….. 0.00 rain

Sun…..69 degrees….. 0.00 rain

Mon…..72 degrees….. 0.00 rain

Standings……..Win….LOSS….Tie

Pray for Rain…..1…….4…..1

Global Warming….4…….1…..1

..

‘Global Warming’ is killing ‘Pray for Rain.’ Oh the Humanity! Slaughtered! Not even counting today. Its 75 degrees outside. Oh the Humanity!

By getalife

November 20, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Ron Paul on the issues

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

I liked Luckovich’s Frankenstein! Very Peter Boyle. You know, a float that big would have an enormous schvanshtooker. (He’ll be very popular).

By getalife

November 20, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

rudy on the issues

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Glad to be of help! Nothing like a little facts and information to cut through the bwak bwak bwak.

By the way, I also think that Mitt Romney would make a fine President. Either one would be fine with me.

Fred sounds great on paper (with the exception of his support for McCain-Feingold) but has been a disappointing candidate, to say the least.

McCain is the worst of the candidates in my estimation (after Ron Paul whose isolationist policies are very dangerous). Yes, he is a truly heroic and his unwavering support of the Iraq War has been great, but he is a disaster on immigration, didn’t believe in the Bush tax cuts, and of course gave us McCain Feingold - just to name a few serious problems with his record.

I don’t know enough about Huckabee at this time, but I’m getting the sense that he is a real Nanny-Stater, and I know he has bought into the Global Warming fraud.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Look at the clever way that Spam Master N has found to insult me:

{{{{By IN THE NEWS November 20, 2007 12:55 PM Come on Duh- Coming Out Step-by-Step Coming out is different for every gay or bisexual person since there are varying degrees of sexuality (see Kinsey Scale) and the circumstances that surround our lifestyles differ.}}}}

He called me gay.

Is the family giggling along with you on that one, Dhimmi?

Anyway, my remarkable transformation of this blog continues, the mark I have left on it is indelible, much like what George Bush has done with Iraq.

When I first came here, all I heard from these pinkos was how being gay was normal, even the monkeys did it, and how much the libs enjoyed doing it, how could it be wrong?

But now they all hate f*-gots and think they are disgusting.

Who could ever doubt the power of Conservative ideals?

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

{…you no account, lazy as-s, “global warming” scare mongering wards of state…}

Would that be:

a) Mike Huckabee

b) Sam Brownback

c) Rudy Guiliani

d) John McCain

e) Mitt Romney (sometimes yes, sometimes no)

f) George Bush

e) 70% supermajority of all GOP primary voters

Bonus question.

Analyze the following and explain the ramifications for the GOP:

Newt Gingrich’s argument against the reality of global warming elicited extremely negative reactions from his fellow Republicans. When confronted with the former Speaker’s statement that “There’s no evidence to support global warming — none. It’s essentially cultural anthropology,” nearly half said it made them less likely to vote for the candidate who uttered it, including 34 percent who said it made them much less likely to vote for that candidate.

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

That’s quite an accomplishment, Duhng, and you should be proud.

Buy Staindress, the McCain you described doesn’t exist in reality. He was very critical of the war strategy. Very. So that’s not unwavering support, now, is it. What’s that smudge on your dress, Buy Staindress?

Ew!

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Yes Duh

We know Duh

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Here’s some fantastic news about the stem-cell debate:

Two major scientific papers published today in Science and Cell offer proof of principle research to show that it is possible to generate patient-matched pluripotent stem cells without human cloning and its attendant moral pitfalls: the need to harvest and use human eggs from female donors and the subsequent destruction of cloned human embryos. Both studies used reprogramming of adult human cells to generate stem cells known as “induced pluripotent state cells” (iPSCs) that have all the properties of human embryonic stem cells.

{{{In the highly contentious political battle over federal funding for stem-cell research, one cannot help but note that of all the current presidential candidates, only Governor Mitt Romney embraced an unambiguous and principled stance on the alternatives, incorporating them into his proposed domestic policy.

Reprogramming takes normal adult body cells — such as skin cells — and sends each cell’s nucleus back to a pluripotent state. In other words, the reprogrammed cells would then be capable of producing any tissue type in the human body — essentially equivalent in versatility to human embryonic stem cells. The reprogrammed cells would, furthermore, be genetically matched to the person who donated the original body cells. They could then be used to grow tissues for future use in tissue replacement therapies (everything from regeneration of damaged heart tissue to Parkinson’s to spinal-cord injury). A perfect genetic match, these tissues would not be rejected by the donor’s immune system. Most importantly, there would be no embryo created, destroyed, damaged or used in any way at any point in the process.}}}

Later…

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

November 20, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh, your 1:57 is inspiring!

You limp wristed liberals are just like Tom Brady. When Tom Brady is not wearing his shoulder pads he does not look as massive.

When you liberal social misfits take off your shoulder pads…..Well let me tell you. I know Tom Brady. Tom Brady is a friend of mine…..And liberals, you’re no Tom Brady, (who is a Republican.)

By TW

November 20, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS - Thanks for the posts today. Somebody should remind Rudi that we got out but kicked on 9/11 and nobody really did anything about it. The tantrum that was the Republican response has done nothing but make a legend out of the guy who hit us. Suppose Rudi will wear his mask when he’s inspecting the nuclear catastrophe the Republicans have done NOTHING to prevent?

By getalife

November 20, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

ganzo in gator country

Excellent!

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

TW

Thanks.

Always good to hear from another fan of the truth!

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Remember, Buy Staindress, that there are some stains that you cant bio-engineer out, like the stain on your soul!

‘muff said

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

ITN, look at who is conspicuously absent from the list.

Dear VoteVets.org Supporter,

Today, we’re officially launching VetVoice.com - a blog that will be the home on the web for troops, veterans, military families, and those civilian supporters of them who are concerned with the current path President Bush’s policies are taking us down. And, we’re starting it off with a bang! We invited every Presidential candidate, of both parties, to address you on their plans for the military and veterans, if elected President. We’ll be posting a new candidate’s post every hour and fifteen minutes.

Visit VetVoice.com now, and keep coming back throughout the day to read posts from:

9:30am EST - Senator John Edwards

10:45 - Representative Ron Paul

12:00pm - Senator Chris Dodd

1:15 - Senator Hillary Clinton

2:30 - Senator Barack Obama

3:45 - Senator Joe Biden

But, today is by no means the only day you should come back to VetVoice.com! When you visit, create an account, which will allow you to write your own diary on our site, comment on other posts, and recommend posts. Then, come back every day to hear what troops and veterans are thinking, catch up on current news and analysis, and connect with America’s 21st Century Patriots.

We have put a lot of thought into, and solicited many opinions on how to make this the largest and most vibrant military and veterans issues blog on the web. We hope you enjoy what we’ve come up with, and will fully utilize what it offers.

Thank you for all of your support, and I’ll see you over at VetVoice.com!

Sincerely,

Brandon Friedman Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran Vice Chairman, VoteVets.org Editor, VetVoice.com

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Great football is scheduled for T day. It’s gonna be great. Too bad Buy Staindress doesn’t like footsy-totsie, well, at least that’s not what SHE calls it…….ew!

bwa

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

No surprises there.

I suspect they’re too busy trying to scrape up some campaign cash!

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Here’s what IN THE FEVER SWAMPS linked to for me. Keep in mind this is the same guy that goes by IN THE NEWS and gets offended when somebody links his name to something off color because his family “reads” his spam here.

{{{{{Much like a politician, you are a sweaty putrid harlet who kisses the feet of the two bit bowl of p!ss and the stingy blister.}}}}}

I had to change a letter to an exclamation point in one word to get by the AJC censors. The link that ITFS spammed the board with at 12:59.

SO HOW ABOUT IT AJC? IS THIS WHAT YOU ALLOW THE LIBERALS TO DO HERE EVEN AS YOU REPRIMAND AND THREATEN TO BAN CONSERVATIVES THAT TELL HISTORICAL TRUTHS ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE STARR REPORT?

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

From the only GOP candidate with a pair:

By Ron Paul - Thank you for allowing me to take part in the launch of VetVoice! It is an honor to speak to our armed forces and our veterans. I am actually a veteran myself, having served as a U.S. Air Force Flight Surgeon during the Vietnam-era.

The most important action I will take as president to support the troops is to end our interventionist foreign policy. Our troops are spread all over the world, meaning we may have difficulty defending ourselves from future threats. We cannot be the policeman of the world. It endangers our national security, isolates us from nations that would otherwise be friendly, and hurts those who provide our security.

The situation in Iraq reminds us that we are to go to war only after a congressional declaration of war, as required by the Constitution. I opposed the Iraq War before it started, and I am gravely concerned about the current buildup to war with Iran. My administration will pursue a coherent foreign policy.

Such a foreign policy is based on understanding that America is best served by not interfering in the internal affairs of other nations. We should rid ourselves of the notion that we are at the mercy of the oil-producing countries- their wealth depends on our business. We should also end our disastrous foreign aid payments and stop propping up dictators and putting band-aids on festering problems.

I will work to capture Osama bin Laden and all of his remaining 9/11 co-conspirators.

Today’s soldiers should never be sent to war without clear objectives that serve definite American national security interests. All Americans will benefit from a coherent foreign policy of non-interventionism, free trade, and self-determination.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

November 20, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

Goodness gracious RW…..Re your 2:48

Butch it up a little would you please.

You are being perhaps a wee bit hysterical. You give conservatives a bad name.

What we need from our fellow conservative bloggers is that sort of Tom Brady coolness while in the midst of adversity.

Courage

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Gee Whiz, RW

I can see the insult-o-matic really got your itty bitty goat. (I think you really ought to work on the whole dish it out but can’t take it problem you have)

You start every day off insulting me. You can’t even take it from a on-line gag site!

Actually, it.s a pretty cute website, link is above.

And then you slip into republi-speak.

If you think OFF COLOR is the same as PORNOGRAPHY you must pray on all 18 tees after a slice!

And as for your “plea” to the AJC…. we both know how that works - don’t we.

You are becoming increasingly silly.

But you’re still worth a good guffaw!

By Mike

November 20, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Is the AJC ever going to acknowledge the good news coming from Iraq? WHen things were going bad, Iraq was the headline every single day. Now that the trends are positive, the AJC pretends the war doesn’t exist.

Even the New York Times and Washington Posts have written about the dramatic turn of events in Iraq. The AJC stafff should feel obigated to report the tuth about Iraq, regardless of how much they root for our failure.

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Does any body believe that RW will be just so golly gosh darned upset with the AJC management and their policies that discriminate against right wing radicals that he’ll never post here again?

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Can you imagine the wedding night of a guy who thinks off color and porn are the same thing?

Hope she had a dvd player.

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

I’m sure you find it refreshing neo-cons, but put down the Kool Aid and heed the obvious - the GOP should catch up with it’s more lucid constituents.

March 27, 2007

With Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) and Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) working overtime to convince America that the GOP is the vanguard of the Flat Earth Society, it is worth recognizing that Republican voters are far ahead of their elected officials, who are in danger of losing support as a result of embracing a Luddite position on global warming.

In December — long before Al Gore’s Oscar and the latest consensus scientific report — we surveyed 400 New Hampshire Republican primary voters for Clear the Air and Clean Air-Cool Planet and found them surprisingly enlightened, despite their conservative orientation. Unlike their leaders, Republican voters are concerned about the dangers posed by global warming and endorse immediate action to curb the carbon pollution that causes it.

Nearly eight in 10 Republican primary voters in New Hampshire believe global warming is a reality that is either happening now or will happen in the future.

A solid 56 percent majority see global warming already occurring, while an additional 23 percent believe it will happen in the future.

JUST 14% OF ALL REPUBLICANS THINK GLOBAL WARMING WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Way to go you demented AJC “conservative” bloggers!

14% nationally but probably 86% here.

By @@

November 20, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Damn ITN, what’s with the “Insult-O-Matic” link? I had to shut down the computer to get out of that idiotic site.

The phrase “retarded genital wart” sounds vaguely familiar.

Hmmmmmmmm.

I recall Midori left such a message for conservatives at RW’s place.

Yep, Midori visited there with her very own warts in tow.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

ITFS,

Just making sure your “family” was really reading what you actually link to. I couldn’t care less what you link to or say as long as the rules are the same for everybody here.

I went back to the date you mentioned and don’t see any evidence of what you were blubbering about so whether there were links to pornography or the Disney Channel is up for grabs. You are extremely dishonest right down to the name you use, so my inclination is to not believe you.

By getalife

November 20, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

My goodmess, get in control of your emotions RW.

Shrill much?

You just got punked.

Bwa.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

November 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Wow In the News, I certainly can see the connection…Thanks for the “Off color=Porn” connection RW.

Just like watching Tom Brady on the networks last week. Those tight pants of Tom Brady’s were also pornographic! And off color. (An off white to be exact.)

We need to order the FCC and insist that Patriots football games can be shown on cable only. Like The Playboy Network, Cinemax and so on. We should keep them off the public airwaves.

By RE

November 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

I missed the economic related cartoon yesterday, but just wanted to come in with a few things.

in the last 3 MONTHS, the following has happened.

The dollar has lost 8% of it’s value in relation to foriegn currency.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two largest government backed mortgage lenders have lost over 50% of thier stock value

COuntrywide, the largest private lender has lost 75% of it’s value in the last 6 months.

and yet there is no discussion of this in any of the debates. The reason is that no one has any idea how to stop it. Instead you have the majority of the GOP pushes for more war and foriegn military adventures, the dems parse words and talk about universal healthcare, but no one (except ron paul) talks about how we pay for any of this.

the US is 9 trillion in debt. China holds 3 trillion in foriegn reserves. Our elected officials have dumbed down debate to the extent that there is only rhetoric left. We talk about a war on terror, but we are losing the much larger struggle for global influence. Just so you understand, forget about what congress or the president decide, and forget about the UN as well, we cannot attack another nation without approval from China at this point because they have the power to DEFUND our government. Any of those little milton friedmans out there want to chime in about how the national debt doesn’t matter, or how about how tax cuts cure all ills. Greed by the voters, the belief that you can get something without paying for it, like national health care or a war is what is going to be the downfall of this country.

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

RW

Of course there’s nothing left at that date weinie!

It was scrubbed.

I obviously can’t send you a copy of the e-mail I got from Lea, I suspect you could not be trusted with my personal info.

If it bothers you so much, DO YOUR HOMEWORK and ask Lea.

By the way, my kids are adults. A little p!ss and vinegar doesn’t bother them. Links with actual pictures of methods of sexual engagement is a little bit stronger don’t you think?

I am not even close to dishonest.

That is why I frighten you.

By Anonymous

November 20, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

RW, like many who believe themselves infallible, is very easy to deceive.

By getalife

November 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

“Dan Abrams had on FDNY Deputy Fire Chief Jim Riches, whose group, 9/11 Firefighters and Families, vows to not let Giuliani get away with it:

Riches: “We are going to follow him around and tell the true story of what happened on 9/11.” … “and get the message out to all of America and every state to let them know that Rudy Giuliani is not Mr 9/11. He’s not a hero. He ran that day.”

Oh goodie, another gop coward.

Geez.

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

There, there, @@. I tried to warn you about clicking on links with viruses and cookies and stuff. Dont click on the links. Just dont do it. Protect your $1500 dell. It will thank you.

Buy Staindress and Duhng: Take a break.

RW: Break a take. That’s right, I said break a take. Look it up. Google it. Or better yet, click on this virus-impregnated link: C==3

‘muff fed

morons.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE November 20, 2007 3:19 PM and yet there is no discussion of this in any of the debates. The reason is that no one has any idea how to stop it.}}}}

Maybe you don’t.

I knew about the problem years ago but Caribou were more important to the dumbas-s liberals.

Drill for our own oil and reduce this massive trade imbalance that you Code Pinkos have created and let’s see what happens.

~~~~~~

RW: I was present the day that DHIMM THE NEWS went whining to the AJC like a great big sobbing baby, the “culprit,” whoever it was, posted links to gay websites with zero pornography within the links, under the sniveling little whiner’s name.

If you followed advertisements within the links, then you get find pornography second hand, but you had to actively seek it out.

But the way that DHIMM THE NEWS went “shrill,” hysterical and must have lied like a rug, and ran to the AJC like a little putrid snot nosed suckas-s, they “banned” that poster.

I think the culprit was retaliating because the libs were linking racist websites to Conservative “nicknames” which is perfectly O.K. with the AJC and all the rest of these cry babies, apparently.

I’ll bet those posts are still up, bright shining examples of what two faced POS scumbags these liberals are.

They’re punks, all.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

ITFS,

If the AJC chooses to look at the note I left them here on the blog that’s fine or they can choose to ignore it. Beyond that it’s out of my control.

I’m not about to pester and cry to them like you do. If what you said happened they would likely have made a public statement here on the blog like they have always done in the past.

By IN THE NEWS

November 20, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Guess we all understand now.

By @@

November 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Sherry Baby a/k/a blah blah blah:

Gotcha, don’t click on any link left by a liberal because liberals are contaminated with viruses. I have this one left over from ITN’s Insult-O-Matic link.

(((Retarded Genital Wart)))

Hang it around YOUR neck. To be forewarned is to be “forearmed”.

I find it rather pathetic that liberals have to go to a site for insults. I figured we insulted you enough here.

Oh well, to each his own.

Weird! You liberals are just plain weird. Here, there and everywhere.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

So IN THE FEVER SWAMPS was lying again?

What a shocka!!! <——-sarc

Thanks for clearing that up Luckoduh.

Later!

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

RW, the AJC is in a bit of a pickle. The only reason they banned that poster was because he was making terroristic threats against an american in a time of war using the public forum of this blog, which is like, so illegal man. They because complicit in that they censored certain blogs and not others which implies a reasonable person compliance to a gauntlet of liability criteria. Notice that not even wooten blogs anymore? They wont let him. It’s too dangerous when the average troll here is obviously a loose cannon.

You, and your problems, along with Duhng, and Buy Staindress, dont even register on the low-flow toilet clog scale, capiche, p!ssants?

I dont blame you for wanting really really bad to matter, or to be a player or whatever f’d up dream you f’d up.

But try solitaire, I get the feeling you’d be good at it, I know the rest of your body agrees….bwa… and maybe then we’ll respect you, fair ‘muff?

moron

By RE

November 20, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I will agree with you on one point, a large part of the trade imbalance came about during the clinton presidency, with the push for NAFTA. Perot was right, that giant sucking sound was jobs leaving the country, only instead of mexico, they went to india and china.

Anyone here remember back in the 80s when eastern europe had this wierdly compuslive desire for american blue jeans? Is there even any clothing companies in the US anymore?

I do have to say andy, I love how your mind works. If tax cuts can’t fix it, than surely drilling in ANWR can.

By Buy Danish

November 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Does Sherry Baby want us to think that she has a “fair muff”?

Heh.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Allow me to state that I am also a member of the 80% that believe that global warming is happening.

In addition, I also belong to the 75% or so that believes global warming is not caused by man.

Notice how our resident Climatologist left that little tidbit out of his propaganda?

What do you expect from a harlot, “forecasting” what the weather will be like decades from now, when he can’t even get the next day right?:

{{{{I guess “Rain man’s” Prayer-a-thon wasn’t heartfelt enough. Nary a drop in sight…}}}}

{{{{Wednesday Night: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Cloudy, with a low around 55. South wind between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.}}}}

Sonny must be praying again.

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Good one, @@!

RE: Y-y-yeah! I love how d-d-duhng’s mind w-w-works!

Duhng: You want too much. You’re too needy. Dont try so hard to tongue lash trolls in this toilet, the glory you reap may be a hole.

Duhng, also, dont toss a troll’s salad here unless you’re sure they’ve never seen a salad shooter commercial. Salad Shooter!

By getalife

November 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

I bet that bridge club President was flooded my e-mails.

I sent her one expressing the cowardice of those who steal freedom and reminded her millions have died for the freedom to hold up a sign expressing their opinions.

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

{In addition, I also belong to the 75% or so that believes global warming is not caused by man.}

OK, the bait has been taken. And here’s the scholarly nay-sayer’s golden chance.

Please cite some sources to support that statement.

By One Voice

November 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Hey Granny, How are you? Miss me? Things have just been getting worse and worse for your side, haven’t they? Bush has been exposed as incompetent and corrupt to the whole country in addition to those of us who saw it 8 years ago and the rest of the world. He’s becoming more and more inconsequential as congress begins to override his vetoes. Most of the neocons have already left and your hopes for 2008 look from slim to none. Next year you may even be forced to get a job that doesn’t involve putting the space between your missing front teeth to use.

By @@

November 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Sherry Baby a/k/a blah blah blah:

Speaking only on behalf of myself but in response to what you posted to RW…

(((maybe then we’ll respect)))

Have I or any of us given you reason to think we care or want your respect?

Are you in desperate need of respect since your Democratic congress has shown you so little in all their half-hearted efforts to meet your demands?

I was just wondering.

It’s gotta suck to be you when you’re not suckin’ yourself that is.

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

ITN, the GOP’s moral depravity is yet another of the MANY issues that are going to absolutely haunt the Republicans this election.

Salacious congressman after corrupt shenanigans after pedophilic scandals after oil for money backroom deals.

And that is on the single issue of integrity, or the lack thereof!

Just on how many single issues can they be wrong?!!! Or alternately, just on how few issues can they be correct?!!

By AmVet

November 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

OK, off to pay for the occupation.

I’ll check back in tomorrow to see how Andy and that crack staff of his came along with the evidence to support his dubious statement of fact that 75% think global warming is not influenced by man’s industrial activities.

Pray for evidence (and rain) neo-cons.

Yowzers….

By Mike

November 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

AmVet -

Let me guess. A neocon is anyone who doesn’t share your narrow views? LOL.

By Prophetess Kelley P

November 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Hi everyone!

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Come by the website www.prophetCenter.org and help us moisten the earth. We now accept Pay Pal! We need $55,716.09 this time.

We would like to announce at this time that we have a new corporate sponsor. A big welcome to our new sponsor… The Weather channel! We will be teaming up to give you the most accurate Pray For Rain prosperity possible.

Also, we’re trying to raise $50,000.00 for the Bishop Paulk Child Support Fund. Every year 5 more of his blessed kids are discovered. Please donate today.

In accordance with our spiritual advisers and our sponsor “The Weather Channel,” this weeks rain target day is set for Thursday. Please pray for it to rain on Thursday. Or Thirstday. Haha!

Donate

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet November 20, 2007 4:27 PM Please cite some sources to support that statement.}}}}

Here’s a good start:

{{{{Americans aren’t being told that a 2005 Gallop Poll of prominent North American climatologists showed that 83 percent of them disagreed with the man-made global warming theory.}}}}

By Son...-...of...-... Sonny

November 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

ProphetessBabe,

You must be a false prophetess, because you betray an unawareness of the fact that several Metro Atlanta municipalities have a standing tradition of gathering at a public forum every second Tuesday to pray for the commonweal. That’s why Sonny Gets Blue when? On the second Tuesday. You should join him next time. You could raise a lot of money from the crowd. Were I to donate, what kind of spiritual items might I receive that would speed my Seeking and Seeing? Have you anything in crystal? In blue, perhaps?

By One Voice

November 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Hey, how ‘bout that? Scott McLellan, former White House Press Secretary, has fessed up regarding the outing of a covert CIA agent. He said both the President and VP knew about the issue and were personally pulling the strings. Does this mean that Bush is going to fire himself, since he promised to fire anyone involved? Of course not. Does this mean that our Pres & VP are guilty of treason, should be impeached, and sent to jail? Of course it does, but many of us knew this long ago.

By @@

November 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

One Voice enjoys a good tease.

(((McClellan’s book, “What Happened,” isn’t due out until April, and the excerpt released Monday was merely a teaser. It doesn’t get into detail about how Bush and Cheney were involved or reveal what happened behind the scenes.)))

Here’s something more interesting:

(((1213 GMT — PAKISTAN — The Pakistani army will launch an offensive to clear Taliban militants from Pakistan’s North-West Frontier Province, army officials said Nov. 20. Security forces have used loudspeakers to ask residents in the area to leave, and people are leaving in large numbers.)))

By One Truth

November 20, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

He lied. Lying’s not a crime, especially among professionals in prevarication manufacturing. The word “politics” comes from the Greek multiplicative prefix “poly-“, meaning many, and “tics”, meaning bloodsucking vermin.

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

1voip: we all knew it in our hearts.

By Prophetess Kelley P

November 20, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Son…-…of…-… Sonny, I’m truly sorry, I don’t to that type of prosperity. If you want crystal you’re going to have to Bless Rev Haggard with a love gift. Meth is not my field. I do rain, political and misc. offerings.

Btw, beware of that Rev Haggard, some wine may make him easier to deal with. I see in your future a very dark episode. DON’T SAY YES TO THE MASSAGE!

RAIN

By One Truth

November 20, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

I didn’t. I’m a dupe, too. I actually thought that he (and for that matter Rumsfeld) was a lot of things, but not a liar. I thought they were remarkably candid. BTW, what happened to Plame doesn’t meet the legal requirements for the criminal “outing of a covert agent”, because there are three inaccuracies in that phrase. Still, duped.

By Son...-...of...-... Sonny

November 20, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Mystic Princess, I already ran the comp. with Haggard’s people. For five hundred he’s willing to go two prayer cloths, a DVD and companion book and a Moses mug. But wait! That’s not all. If I act now I get a vial of bona fide Holy Water and a string of worry beads, and he’ll personally wipe his brow with not one, but two of the prayer cloths. At my level of giving, no massage, though he’s willing to go as far as touching. I have to wrap this thing up tonight, so I don’t have time to negotiate further. So if you have a counter offer, I’d appreciate your coperation. Otherwise, I’ve enjoyed our brief association and hope that we can work together in the future. And Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

By Sherry Baby

November 20, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

I predict the Falcons will beat the Colts. 24-21 I just dont believe in Manning.

Go Falcons.

By One Truth

November 20, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Jerez Seco, must you be a skeptic about everything? You have to allow yourself to have the ears to hear and the eyes to see Manning. Listen to that small, still voice…isn’t it saying “Manninggggggmannnnnnningmanningggggggggmannnnnnnnningmaningggggggggg”—like that? Can’t you hear that?

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

Missed this little gem.

{{{{{By the way, my kids are adults.}}}}}- IN THE FEVER SWAMPS

ITFS,

Are these adult children actually coming to the blog to see their Daddy spam the board with links to other people’s work, all day every day. Are you sure they aren’t laughing at what an utter waste you are, like we are?

By Prophetess Kelley P

November 20, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Son…-…of…-… Sonny, for $100 + sase, I will send you a personally autographed copy of my “Raindrop From Jesus.” collection

The day of the first Pray for Rain, A drop of rain water in the shape of a tear from Jesus himself formed an image in my parched back yard dirt. Out of nowhere this single tear drop from heaven formed a holy stain into the dirt. That stain looked exactly like Jesus himself. I cried.

God’s tear has dried now. The dirt seems so empty now. There is nothing left of the miracle.

Save this miracle Son…-…of…-… Sonny. Buy a photo then dampen the spot of the tear drop in the photo with your own tear! Bring the miracle back to life! Feel and share in the drama. Wow. Lets just make that $200. Save us.

TEARS

By @@

November 20, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Gosh, when you liberals are in here talking to yourselves do you ever wonder if anyone’s watching?

Sometimes I do and you’re all about the business of creating fantasies while we’re gone.

Enjoy and Happy Thanksgiving.

Now who is it ‘ya gonna be thanking?

Oh yea, the Democratic congress.

Unanswered prayers. We all get ‘em. You’ve just gotta learn to accept disappointment.

You far-left doobers are not only good at that, you are that.

By One Voice

November 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

rw, the telemarketer, calling someone else an utter waste? Uh, rw, you’re the one who has spent at least the last 4 years spreading lies every day and rationalizing the illegal and immoral behavior of your sacred idiots. What does that make you? A false prophet? Full of sh!t? A wannabe defense attorney for the indefensible? A loser? Or just an utter waste of human matter? I’ll go with all of the above minus the prophet.

By Son...-...of...-... Sonny

November 20, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

@@, you’re not being fair to us. I don’t know about the others, but I refuse to be a victim of your inappropriate abuse. They may wish to seek counseling for it, at Mike’s Blog Abuse Recovery Hotline, but not me. I own myself and my Self says, “That’s your problem, @@, not mine.”

Here I was just about to close with the Prophetess and you come in all assertive and dominating and you’re, like, a total karmakill, you know?

You’d be a lot happier if you’d go with it, and be open to Inner Peace. The Prophetess may be willing to tell you, on a trial offer basis, just how much that could mean for you.

She is in tune with the rain and with all the Elements Gaia has given us that we might be happy and love each other without multiplying and thus sullying Her gifts and scarring Her radiant face.

Your condescending to ask us whom we give thanks to is very intollerant of you. Your beliefs are no more valid than ours. You should own this, @@.

By RW-(the original)

November 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Ah isn’t that sweet…One Punk wants to be noticed. He even managed to get a lie into his first three words. GFY One Punk, Good for you!

Now run along and empty your spit buckets.

By Luckoduh

November 20, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

I took one for the team and read Shrillary’s manifesto:

{{{{After eight years of failed leadership under President Bush, the next president will face extraordinary challenges: a war to end; an economy to revive; an energy crisis to solve; 47 million Americans to insure; a homeland to secure; alliances to repair; and a world in need of American leadership.}}}}

A war to end?

47 million people to insure?

Can this POS actually believe what she says?

I know some dimwit drug addicts set policy for this moron, but doesn’t she realize that we know where the money is going to wind up coming from?

{{{{You know where I stand. And you know that when I stand with you, I never give up, I never back down and I never stop fighting - no matter how tough it gets.}}}}

Fighting who?

Juanita Edwards?

And what battles has this hag ever won?

Name one victory from this fantasy “fighter,” hell, she caved in and let’s her husband screw everything within sight, some “powerful force” this POS must be to deal with.

This is great, let this filth speak, only idiots are impressed by it.

By @@

November 20, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

So sorry Son or Morse Code.

You were trying to get it on with a wood nymph and I interrupted.

Blog on! You do understand there’s no touching consonants and vowels in cyberspace though, don’tcha?

Condescending? Me!!!! How about condomsending? that way you can “safely” be as one.

By Son...-...of...-... Sonny

November 20, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this

@@, I struck out with the Prophetess. She cut me dead. Just like that. It’s OK. I’ve been jilted before.

Want to hook up with a lefty blogger who thinks Republicans control everything including the weather and that Bush has a need to murder Iraqi children and send young Americans to their deaths doing it? I can be very convincing, you know.

If you’re open to it, I can assure you that should Haggard put the moves on me I’ll get tested afterward. I mean, that’s not my bliss or anything, but if someone has needs I can respect his needs as equally valid. He can’t help himself for doing what Nature made him to do.

I could teach you about Peace.

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