Mike Luckovich

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

{{{{“The governor can pray when he wants to,” said Ed Buckner, who is organizing the protest. “What he can’t do is lead prayers in the name of the people of Georgia.”… “This is a ridiculous, illogical exercise even for people who are deeply religious,” said Ed Buckner, treasurer for the Atlanta Freethought Society. “I would think they’d be offended.”}}}}

Is there anything the liberals won’t whine about?

How can this possibly be bothering them?

It’s not like we’re marching a bunch of homosexuals in drag up and down public streets or anything.

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More from the producer of 24:

{{{{Conservatives who lament the ideological bias in Hollywood need to stop acting like liberals.}}}}

{{{{“Our job is not to whine, that’s their job,” Surnow said. “Our job is to succeed despite the adversity.”}}}}

{{{{Asked about the battle over popular culture, he said that conservatives should keep their heads up. “I happen to believe that the MoveOn culture is going to have to implode at some point,” he said, and also remarked that it is actually liberals who are becoming more restrictive.}}}}

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{{{{This was truly only a coincidence, though, according to Clinton’s widely trusted campaign staff, which at first denied planting any questions. Then, under a gathering mountain of evidence, her staff admitted planting one question, but claimed that no one told Clinton there was a planted question in the crowd or with whom the fraudulent question had been planted. In other words, Clinton called on the correct person, who asked the correct question, to which Clinton gave a very specific answer, but Clinton did not inhale before giving that answer.}}}}

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

{{{{First, the Clinton Ladies Intervention Team blames the moderator, Tim Russert. Then, they attack her Democratic opponents for ganging up on her. Next, they claim she was a victim because she is a woman. Then, they trot out the Ball and Chain, Bill, with the “swiftboat” defense. Next, they send the future First Spouse to fall on his very active sword for her over the failure of health care reform — fourteen years after the fact.}}}}

{{{{These pitiful attempts to blow past her mistakes have eroded her support significantly, particularly in the earliest voting states, Iowa and New Hampshire. She’s still leading, has a ton of money and the big-time name recognition, but her poll numbers are dropping faster than Bill’s pants.}}}}

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{{{{Dictionary.com defines “patriot” this way: “a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.” The key words are “defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.” By this definition Joe Lieberman is a patriot.}}}}

And Code Pinkos are not patriots.

{{{{In his Johns Hopkins speech, Lieberman said of Senate colleagues who voted against his resolution to declare Iran’s revolutionary Quds Force a foreign terrorist entity (privately telling him they agreed, but don’t trust Bush): “There is something profoundly wrong - something that should trouble all of us - when we have elected Democratic officials who seem more worried about how the Bush administration might respond to Iran’s murder of our troops, than about the fact that Iran is murdering our troops.” Exactly. God bless Joe Lieberman, a true patriot.}}}}

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

HMO Pays Staffers to Drop Sick People………………………….Virtually all the Democrats running for president have endorsed health care proposals that maintain a major role for private insurance companies. Much of their rhetoric suggests that if we could just get everyone health insurance, then all will be well. But the debate continues to ignore the horror stories like the one reported in the L.A. Times Friday.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

All We Want for Christmas is a Good Economy As the holiday season approaches, a recent poll shows that the economy has beaten Iraq as the issue of most concern to Americans.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

Is the Military Our Last, Best Hope for Averting War with Iran?When military command is the voice of reason in a debate about a new war, you know our democracy is in trouble.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Only 1 week until Thanksgiving — be sure to start ridiculing those retail shops that don’t declare “Merry Christmas” to ya… after all, we’ve gotta fight the Repugs’ War On Christmas year after year!

By Shawny

November 13, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

I like Joe Lieberman.

Too bad he didn’t win the dem nod a few years back. I would have voted for him.

By RS

November 13, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

While it is ususally pointless to contest statements by Lucko, two things stood out on his post. The first is why is an atheist automatically branded a Liberal? How do you know? He’s as angry as you are, so why isn’t he a conservative?

Secondly, in response to your second “paragraph”, you are the one constantly whining and badgering persons with views that differ from yours. Listen and think…something new and different…you do not have all the answers. As for the Clinton issue, the score is one to one when considering FEMA’s attempt to be the “press” unless you forget the censoring of info. Remember, they are apart of your “Holy” government of greed, fear, and stupidity.

Finally, are you really a bisexual? After yesterdays posts on the drought (another AJC Blog), you may be Alexis, who blamed the drought on homosexuals and liberals. As for praying for rain, what do you think we have been doing for the past 4 months? Does God only listen when you get a group together or on Sundays, or can he listen to impromptu DAILY/Hourly prayers also?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Goldie…

Do you think we’ll see the War on Christmas troops in the mall in red and green cammo?

Up armored humvees?

I don’t know but I’ve been told Santa Claus is mighty old…..

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

$1.5 Trillion by BarbinMD

Mon Nov 12, 2007 at 11:53:23 PM PST When writing about the monetary cost of the war in Iraq in recent months, typing out, “$500 billion,” always boggled the mind. Who knew that that wasn’t the half of it…so to speak:

The economic costs to the United States of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so far total approximately $1.5 trillion, according to a new study by congressional Democrats that estimates the conflicts’ “hidden costs”— including higher oil prices, the expense of treating wounded veterans and interest payments on the money borrowed to pay for the wars.

That amount is nearly double the $804 billion the White House has spent or requested to wage these wars through 2008, according to the Democratic staff of Congress’s Joint Economic Committee. Its report, titled “The Hidden Costs of the Iraq War,” estimates that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have thus far cost the average U.S. family of four more than $20,000.

And as you take a few moments to let that sink in, remember this from 2003, when then Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz:

…spent much of the hearing knocking down published estimates of the costs of war and rebuilding, saying the upper range of $95 billion was too high, and that the estimates were almost meaningless because of the variables. Moreover, he said such estimates, and speculation that postwar reconstruction costs could climb even higher, ignored the fact that Iraq is a wealthy country, with annual oil exports worth $15 billion to $20 billion. “To assume we’re going to pay for it all is just wrong,” he said.

Well, you know what happens when we assume.

Via Daily Kos

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Members of Congress have warned about the dangers of suitcase nuclear weapons. Hollywood has made television shows and movies about them. Even the Federal Emergency Management Agency has alerted Americans to a threat — information the White House includes on its Web site…………………… But government experts and intelligence officials say such a threat gets vastly more attention than it deserves. These officials said a true suitcase nuke would be highly complex to produce, require significant upkeep and cost a small fortune…………………. Counterproliferation authorities do not completely rule out the possibility that these portable devices once existed. But they do not think the threat remains.

By Bosch

November 13, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Good morning all!

I like today’s cartoon - non-political, at least to me. I know some of us can make anything a liberal vs. conservative issue, but the holidays are approaching which puts me in an inexplicably good mood!

Okay, this war on Christmas thing, how much of a big deal is this? I live in a small town, and I don’t seem to see it as much as some of you might in the big city.

The only time I say Happy Holidays is if I know I’m speaking to a Jew or Muslim (or other religion, but we don’t have many Hindus, Buddhists, etc. in town), otherwise I say Merry Christmas - I think most normal people know that it’s the sentiment that counts.

If some person gets offended that I wish them good cheer and that I’m not being totally politically correct, then so be it. There are lots of things in this world you can be offended about and if that makes you mad, then you probably have bigger issues.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

$19.5 million: Amount PhRMA spent from July 1, 2006, through June 30, 2007, aimed at killing legislation to speed the availability of less expensive generic drugs.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Bosch, Wow!! I actually agree with you on something. If people are offended by me saying “Merry Christmas” to them, that’s THEIR problem, not mine.

Now, to your question of “how much of a big deal is this?” To me, it’s a very big deal. The problem is the source. “Merry Christmas” has been a fixture around Christmas in this country for many years. Until the ACLU and the anti Christian crowd declared war on it. It has been forced out of our schools, off our government property, and they’ve intimidated the retailers into “happy holidays” for fear of offending some minority of people. They don’t seem to mind making most of their yearly profit as people buy gifts for CHRISTmas, but they sure wouldn’t want to offend any of those non Christians who aren’t there shopping anyway because they don’t celebrate Christmas. If you don’t want to celebrate Christmas, don’t. I don’t care. But I resent the fact people are actively trying to remove the reference to Christ and the meaning of Christmas from the holiday and I will fight for it. Greetings of “happy holidays” will be answered with “Merry Christmas to you!!” from me.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Bosch, Wow!! I actually agree with you on something. If people are offended by me saying “Merry Christmas” to them, that’s THEIR problem, not mine.

Now, to your question of “how much of a big deal is this?” To me, it’s a very big deal. The problem is the source. “Merry Christmas” has been a fixture around Christmas in this country for many years. Until the ACLU and the anti Christian crowd declared war on it. It has been forced out of our schools, off our government property, and they’ve intimidated the retailers into “happy holidays” for fear of offending some minority of people. They don’t seem to mind making most of their yearly profit as people buy gifts for CHRISTmas, but they sure wouldn’t want to offend any of those non Christians who aren’t there shopping anyway because they don’t celebrate Christmas. If you don’t want to celebrate Christmas, don’t. I don’t care. But I resent the fact people are actively trying to remove the reference to Christ and the meaning of Christmas from the holiday and I will fight for it. Greetings of “happy holidays” will be answered with “Merry Christmas to you!!” from me.

By Bosch

November 13, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Well, RB, call it a Thanksgiving miracle.

But, I don’t know where you live, (obviously somewhere in Gwinnet Co.), but it hasn’t been forced out of anywhere around here - especially not the schools - and our schools do have some Muslim children - and when I have to go into “government buildings” I still see Christmas trees, etc. I do most of my shopping on-line because I detest malls, but the retail places I go still have the traditional Christmas stuff.

So I guess my question is, how much of this is just media hype and how much of it is actually taking place in the mainstream. Like most things that get thrown into the liberal v. conservative arena, in my opinion, it’s just a few ugly cases that get all the attention?

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

RS, speaking of the more right wing one leans, the more close minded they are, these results confirm what I have known and experienced my entire adult life:

Rush Limbaugh was ahead of the curve in recognizing the source of his ratings success. He often says it is because he is merely confirming what listeners already believed, not because of his powers of persuasion.

He also says he suspects there is a sizable chunk of his audience who are not conservative like him, but rather are from the other end of the political spectrum. On this point the Zogby/Lear Center Poll shows he is right, er, correct. The extensive interactive survey of deeply held beliefs and behavior patterns – conducted June 26–29, 2007, including 3,939 adults nationwide and carrying a margin of error of +/– 1.6 percentage points – shows that liberals were much more likely than conservatives to listen to commentary and entertainment with which they disagreed philosophically. This could be part of the reason Air America has faltered – there are simply fewer potential listeners.

While 22% of conservatives said they “never” enjoy entertainment that reflects values other than their own, just 7% of liberals felt the same way. At the other end of the scale, just 11% of conservatives said they “very often” enjoyed programming that ran counter to their personal philosophies, compared to 20% of liberals and 18% of moderates who said the same thing. In other words, Limbaugh’s potential audience is larger than that of liberal competitors because more liberals say they will listen to conservatives than vice versa.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Next Test for Blackwater Can Firm Get New Pentagon Work After Iraq Incident? By AUGUST COLEA Defense Department contract involving antidrug training missions may test the durability of the political controversy over Blackwater Worldwide’s security work in Iraq.The Moyock, N.C., company, which was involved in a September shooting in Baghdad that left 17 Iraqis dead, is one of five military contractors competing for as much as $15 billion over five years to help fight a narcotics trade that the government says finances terrorist groups.Also competing for contracts from the Pentagon’s Counter Narcoterrorism Technology Program Office are military-industry giants Raytheon Co., Lockheed Martin Corp. and Northrop Grumman Corp., as well as Arinc Inc., a smaller aerospace and technology contractor.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Bosch @ 8:50 — I myself say Merry Christmas to everyone, when the timing is appropriate, suching as while shopping during the holiday season. I figure no matter what religion a person adheres to, a hearty “Merry Christmas” will certainly do ‘em no harm!

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Also, Bosch @ 8:50 — it’s not really a big deal to anyone… oh, except for those who insist that all retail stores should not welcome ALL of their customers into their stores with a generic “Happy Holidays”, but instead they should spend their $$ with separate banners reading “Merry Christmas”, “Happy Channuka”, “Happy Kwanza”, “Happy Winter Solstice”, “Merry Eid al-Adha”, “Happy Advent”, and “A Very Happy New Year to You!”…

What a waste of profit $$, yes?

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Ed Buckner from the Atlanta Freethought Society was just on Fox News. I sure hope you atheists have a better spokesman to trot out in the future.

When Meghan Kelly asked him how an interfaith prayer service consisting of Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. constituted a state endorsement of a religion all he could do was babble about how America is not a Christian nation therefore Sonny had no right to have this prayer service.

Uh Ed, did you miss the interfaith part of the question? My guess is that Ed is one of the posters here (a very long winded one) and will soon be along to type the same talking points he read from.

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

As for our large, but diminished, governor praying for rain, it merely reflects his irrational belief that parading out this nonsense rather than effectively leading and making TIMELY difficult decisions is the way to govern.

But alas, the governor of Alabama apparently did not pray “hard enough” as his supplications from back in the summer remained unanswered.

And as for the moronic question, “what does it hurt?”, the answer is the same as that to the question, “how does this help us one iota?”.

It doesn’t.

And so we endure irrational fools as our supposed leaders and mindless sheep who trust them.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Bosch, You would be hard pressed to find ANY “Merry Christmas” signs in any major retailer these days. They’ve all given in to the PC crowd and posted “happy holidays” or “Joy” or something non Christian related. I too am not a fan of malls, but I have to go to one this weekend. I’ll let you know what I find next week.

With a quick check of web sites, Macy’s, JC Penny, Sears, and Wal Mart have no reference to Christmas shopping on them. All “Holiday” shopping. Target actually has a “Christmas Shopping” section on theirs. Go Target!!

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

{{I don’t know but I’ve been told Santa Claus is mighty old…}}

InTheNews, ROFL— that’s pretty scary to the kids at the mall, dontcha think?

Also, have you heard this one: Why don’t Santa and Mrs. Claus have any children?

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Blowhard,

I would agree with you that prayer shouldn’t take the place of leadership, but I would love to hear your thoughts on how this long term planning only became necessary in the last five years.

Also would you support an immediate crackdown on multiple families living in single family homes or apartments? That is the single biggest problem that has an addressable solution readily available.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

No Why?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

RW

I’d have to disagree with

“Also would you support an immediate crackdown on multiple families living in single family homes or apartments? That is the single biggest problem that has an addressable solution readily available.”

Those extra folks may move out, but how are we going to stop them from drinking or washing?

Would it not be easier to immediately issue a moratorium on building?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Goldie….

You know why smokey the bear’s wife never had any kids?

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

ITFS,

I don’t think you have any idea how severs the problem is. There is no way there would be building permits issued for the number of units that would be needed. Planning and zoning never took into account what would happen when entire communities were over occupied by 3 to 4 times the number planned for.

You really should stick to spamming.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Sonny is doing the only thing the gop does in a crisis. They can’t govern.

Pipelines instead of praying is the solution.

He is just another gop idiot a failed leader.

You should not pay taxes for prayers.

Geez.

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

The former Republican, turned independent, Bloomberg may be comitting political suicide if he really is serious about becoming Ronnie, Jr.

All but the most strident neo-cons have concluded that Reagan’s legacy was very mixed with a TON of smelly baggage.

Most of his neo-con ideas were a failure then, and the country won’t easily be persuaded to give them another try.

ESPECIALLY after this last debacle of a neo-con President.

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/bloombergnancyreagan/2007/11/12/48746.html

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

RW,

First, I politely disagree but you must always attempt to be insulting.

Of course I am aware of how severe the problem is.

The question remains, we can get multiple families out of homes (how far do we go with that? Granny or Aunt Bea out on the street?) but unless we get them to another area of the state/country/continent they still will be using water.

Why not a moratorium on new building?

By Dusty

November 13, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Well, I for one, am glad Luckovich has given us a funny lil’ Thanksgiving cartoon. That’s pretty funny, a turkey getting a flu shot just before Thanksgiving. Yes!

All you other turkeys who want to fuss about Christmas, praying for rain and other terribly upsetting occurrences, go get a flu shot.

Maybe that will help. If not, go join the Free Thoughtless Society with AmVet and they will give you a new thought for free. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Thankful Thanksgiving and pray for rain! (I am not being politically correct today.)

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

InTheNews @ 10:17 — no, I don’t know, but let me guess… because Smokey only blows smoke???

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS November 13, 2007 10:16 AM Those extra folks may move out, but how are we going to stop them from drinking or washing?}}}}

Allow me to interject a thought here, unless this house is on a septic system, every bit of water used goes into a pipe, through the treatment plants and directly back into the river from whence it came.

There could be three thousand people living in the house the same holds true.

In fact, humans add more water to the river shed then would naturally return there during a normal rain, as asphalt and concrete do not absorb water as the undisturbed ground does.

It’s the musselhead whacko environmentalists, period.

The same mussels that should have evolved to their low water situation by growing some feets and walking the hell to where the water is at.

So much for that idea, huh, Darwin?

But anyway, it appears that the Lord has heard Sonny’s prayers and we shall receive a respite here in the next several days.

It just goes to show you the power of prayer.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Goldie….

Every time she got hot he hit her in the face with a shovel.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

{{It just goes to show you the power of prayer.}}

HA! That’s pretty funny, DUHHHH. The weather system blowing as always from the west is in plain view of anyone who cares to look at the Weather Channel map. So you think it’s the “power of prayer” that brings rain from the west and/or SW???

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

By getalife 10:25 AM

It sure is a good thing there’s a Republican around to blame somewhere for everything thats wrong in your world. It keeps you from having to think or take responsibility for anything, doesn’t it?

Somehow, if we had a Dem governor, I think you would blame this problem on W or the last R governor we had in GA 100 years ago. Amazing….

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

10:44 — BWAAAA!

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

By getalife 10:25 AM

It sure is a good thing there’s a Republican around to blame somewhere for everything thats wrong in your world. It keeps you from having to think or take responsibility for anything, doesn’t it?

Somehow, if we had a Dem governor, I think you would blame this problem on W or the last R governor we had in GA 100 years ago. Amazing….

By JNH

November 13, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

By Luckoduh November 13, 2007 8:05 AM This is a ridiculous, illogical exercise even for people who are deeply religious,” said Ed Buckner, treasurer for the Atlanta Freethought Society. “I would think they’d be offended.”}}}} Is there anything the liberals won’t whine about?

Liberals don’t pray? Beg your pardon Mr. L. This liberal (in most areas, those that effect the health and well being of people) certainly does pray every day. Actually all liberals and conservatives in the local Baptist church I attend, prayed for rain last Sunday. And who said Mr. B is a liberal? I don’t know. There are many extremists and idiots on both sides of the fence. I also tell everyone “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Holidays” depending on whatever happens to exit the mouth at a given time. Who said liberals don’t celebrate Christmas?

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

ITFS,

If you consider it a problem that multiple ENTIRE families live in single family dwellings then a moratorium on new building only compounds the problem.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Duh,

Let’s see if I can sift through your post for the point.

You seem to be supporting my point regarding multiple families.

You seem to be ignoring the idea of a building moratorium.

You are blaming it on environmentalists.

I won’t argue that point with you…..I think you are dead wrong on the whole subject.

I love America, and I want it’s natural beauty to endure.

Golden waves of grain!

Purple mountains’ majesty!

Fresh oysters and mussels from our wetlands and swamps!

By @@

November 13, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Well…well, a funny cartoon ml but everyone knows that “optimism” is a plague to liberals.

I’m confident that you’ll show up tomorrow promoting the preferred disease of liberal “cynicism”. It’s in your blood.

All the “ANTI”-biotics in the world won’t cure it.

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

From the How Stupid Can You Be category!

HOUMA, La. — A white state lawmaker in a runoff election called a black civil-rights veteran who had helped her campaign “Buckwheat,” angering the NAACP, which urged voters to kick her out of office.

Rep. Carla Blanchard Dartez, a Democrat, acknowledged that she ended a Thursday night conversation with Hazel Boykin by saying, “Talk to you later, Buckwheat.” Dartez had been thanking Boykin for driving voters to the polls.

Buckwheat, a black child character in the “Little Rascals” comedies of the 1930s and ’40s, is viewed as a racial stereotype.

Boykin, 75, helped desegregate restaurants and the parish school system in the 1960s. Her son, Jerome, is president of the Terrebonne Parish chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

“I’ve never had no one talk to me that way, and I considered it a racial slur,” Hazel Boykin said. “I know the meaning of it; it’s just like the N-word.”

On Monday, Jerome Boykin held a news conference asking voters to cast ballots against Dartez, who faces Republican Joe Harrison in Saturday’s runoff.

“The NAACP is going to do all it can to see that she is not re-elected,” he said. “At this point, the NAACP is not concerned about the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. If a Republican is elected because of her racist remarks, that’s her responsibility.”

Dartez did not immediately return a call Monday.

“I made an insensitive comment, and I regret my choice of words,” she said Friday. “I have apologized to both Hazel and Jerome Boykin. The Boykin family has been a huge help in my campaign for re-election, and I did not mean to offend them.”

But Hazel Boykin said Dartez still has not personally apologized.

Dartez has represented parts of Terrebonne, St. Mary and Assumption parishes since 1999. She has said she does not intend to drop out of the race.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

I’m very optimistic about a Dem bringing sanity back to the White House starting in ‘09!

By getalife

November 13, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

RB,

I bash dems too idiot.

Unlike the pathetic wingnuts who blame libs for everything, I dwell in reality and blame the current leadership.

If want pay to pray go to church.

Geez.

By JNH

November 13, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

By Bosch November 13, 2007 9:36 So I guess my question is, how much of this is just media hype and how much of it is actually taking place in the mainstream.

It’s the media poo poo, trying to turn this into a liberal vs. conservative issue. I haven’t been in a government office in Gwinnett, Dekalb, Fulton or anywhere else in N Georgia that didn’t have a Christmas tree. Yep! All those retail stores here in the boondogles also have Christmas trees!!!

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - lib·er·al

–adjective

favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.

not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.

of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.

of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.

–noun

a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.

(often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.

DON’T SEE A WORD ABOUT CYNICAL.

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

I wonder who is more stupid in Blowhard’s little tale @ 10:57. Is it the Democrat that called someone Buckwheat or is it the NAACP Parrish President that said “The NAACP is going to do all it can to see that she is not re-elected,” he said. ———>“At this point<———, the NAACP is not concerned about the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

The NAACP is supposed to be a nonpartisan organization and enjoys certain tax privileges because of that status.

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

{{{{By JNH November 13, 2007 10:51 AM Is there anything the liberals won’t whine about?}}}}

JNH: So how did you get from “do whine” to “don’t pray?”

Believe me, I know that liberals pray, it just that they pray for the wrong things.

Just ask “reverend” Barry Lynn of the ACLU or “reverend” Jesse Jackson of the Rainbow Coalition if you don’t believe me.

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

{{{{The college student who says she was told what question to ask at one of Sen. Hillary Klintoon’s campaign events told CNN Monday that she wasn’t the only one at the event who was a plant and said “voters have the right to know what really happened.”}}}}

{{{{In an exclusive interview with CNN, Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff, a 19-year-old sophomore at Grinnell College in Iowa — whose story in her campus newspaper has now been widely circulated — said that giving anyone specific questions to ask is “dishonest,” and the whole incident has given her a negative outlook on politics.}}}}

Disgusting, isn’t it, Muriel?

By Anonymous

November 13, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

On the nonexistent “War on Christmas”:

From a business perspective, why should retailers cater only to Christians instead of ALL potential customers?

And from a religious perspective, why should Christians care what RETAILERS say to CUSTOMERS about SHOPPING? If any of that has any bearing on your religious observances, you’ve got some f’ed up priorities.

By JNH

November 13, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this {{{{By JNH November 13, 2007 10:51 AM Is there anything the liberals won’t whine about?}}}} JNH: So how did you get from “do whine” to “don’t pray?” Believe me, I know that liberals pray, it just that they pray for the wrong things.

What wrong things? I hope praying for the salvation of nonbelievers, the leadership of our country (sure does need it), friends and family members who are ill, rain (YES RAIN!), to name a few are not the wrong things. These issues should be at the top of everyone’s list!

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Granted, compared to his fearless but deadly leader in the White House, our governor is just your garden variety, run of the mill Republican do nothing/incompetent.

Let’s summarize his years in office.

First, he bravely took on and brilliantly solved that disastrous state flag crisis that endangered ALL Georgians.

Then he accomplished essentially zero for the next five years.

Oh yeah, he did make a slew of money with a couple of shady land deals and then failed to disclose his interest in them as required by Georgia law.

Then he prayed for rain.

No wonder we haven’t had a Republican governor since Reconstruction.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

RW

“”If you consider it a problem that multiple ENTIRE families live in single family dwellings then a moratorium on new building only compounds the problem.”“

Why?

I suspect multiple ENTIRE families living in one dwelling would still use less water. Lines for the commode. Waits for showers. Limited hot water. (my favorite - a gaggle of little kids in the tub all at one time)

Put those ENTIRE families in their very own dwelling, I posit that water usage would go up.

So how would a moratorium on building compound the water shortage problem?

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

By JNH 11:05 AM

Just like a liberal to see a bunch of trees with decorations on them and say, “see, they celebrate christmas here”, yet not notice the people behind the counter at the the county offices are only allowed to decorate “Holiday” trees with no mention of CHRIST and the signs over the trees at the mall say “Happy Holidays”, again with no mention of Christmas. You have completely missed the point of this whole conversation…. Not surprising.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

China sent us a message on Iran, a new warmongering if you will. This sub popped up in the middle of our fleet undetected and then they said it was a coincidence.

Told ya, China and Russia are still the real threats.

By Anonymous

November 13, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

On the nonexistent “War on Christmas”:

From a business perspective, why should retailers cater only to Christians instead of ALL potential customers?

And from a religious perspective, why should Christians care what RETAILERS say to CUSTOMERS about SHOPPING? If any of that has any bearing on your religious observances, you’ve got some f’ed up priorities.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

By JNH 11:05 AM

Just like a liberal to see a bunch of trees with decorations on them and say, “see, they celebrate christmas here”, yet not notice the people behind the counter at the the county offices are only allowed to decorate “Holiday” trees with no mention of CHRIST and the signs over the trees at the mall say “Happy Holidays”, again with no mention of Christmas. You have completely missed the point of this whole conversation…. Not surprising.

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

ITFS,

You make the assumption that those families could afford their own dwelling, but it’s probably true that if they could afford it then water usage would increase.

Is it your brilliant idea that if we just stop building and become a third world country all our problems will be solved?

Perhaps you could spam the board with a few articles showing us how well that’ll work.

Sorry if it’s an inconvenient truth, but unchecked, illegal immigration puts a tremendous strain on our infrastructure.

See y’all at happy hour!

By JNH

November 13, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

By RB from Gwinnett November 13, 2007 11:28 AM Just like a liberal to see a bunch of trees with decorations on them and say, “see, they celebrate christmas here”, yet not notice the people behind the counter at the the county offices are only allowed to decorate “Holiday” trees with no mention of CHRIST and the signs over the trees at the mall say “Happy Holidays”, again with no mention of Christmas. You have

No, I haven’t missed the point at all! The Christmas trees I see are decorated with a conglomeration of secular and religious ornaments. And why shouldn’t the person behind the counter at a government office say “Happy Holidays!” Any way you slice it, it’s a holiday for most individuals. RB, you have the freedom to say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy whatevertheheck you wish, that’s what makes it a free country. IMHO, if anyone is offended if I say “Merry Christmas” they probably have bigger issues (I think someone else made made note of this). On the other hand, if one is offended by a “Happy Holiday” they probably have some of the same issues.

By Anonymous

November 13, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

And the POINT is, that a small subset of angry Christians demand that their faith be catered to specifically, using words of their choosing, by retailers during a commercial transaction.

Y’know, like Jesus would want.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Ga. poll numbers

Go Clintons.

By mm

November 13, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

When will you wingnuts quit trying to shove religion up everone’s butt?

As you wingnuts say, it’s free enterprise and the stores can do whatever they want to maximize profits.

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

The biggest thing working against Christianity in America these days are the “biggest” “Christians”!

Look no further than this blog for evidence of some of these frauds and whiners.

For example, personally I can hardly wait for Bill O’Reilly to ramp up his idiotic defense against that dastardly “WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!!”.

What a maroon.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

RW

You really are a pip!

I made no assumption regarding the ENTIRE families financial situation at all. But glad to see that you agree that changing their living arrangements would likely increase water usage.

I suspect your real motives regarding multiple families in one dwelling actually have very little to do with water.

Why do you persist in making foolish and unfounded assumptions about what other people believe? Only a moron, attempting to twist another person’s words in order hide his own lunacy would make an incredibly silly statement like this ” Is it your brilliant idea that if we just stop building and become a third world country all our problems will be solved?”.

Until we improve our water situation, continued building makes life more difficult for all of us - except the developers.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

{{Y’know, like Jesus would want.}}

That’s true, Anon— and just like DUHHH posted earlier, liberals “pray for the wrong things”… Like he read somewhere that Jesus said we should all pray to have only the Neo-cons ruling America… ROFL! That’s why I try to come to this blog each day and see what is on the idiot trolls’ minds — they never fail to amuse me!

By Lazy Guv Workers are Blogging on the Job

November 13, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

I see the Government slackers are back on the job after their unearned Veterans Day free day off. Do you know why a government worker never, ever looks out his office window in the morning? Because if she does, she will not have anything to do in the afternoon.

By Bosch

November 13, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Awwwww,

So I think we’ve hit the root of the “problem” on the “war on Christmas” - it’s all about money. How sad. That’s not a liberal v. conservative issue. That’s a corporate greed issue.

Retailers don’t want to offend anyone because they fear they’ll miss a sale - while seriously, most people of other religions than Christianity - at least most in the mainstream, don’t care about the controversy. They enjoy the holiday just like anybody else - at least that has been my experience - of course, can’t speak for everyone.

I work with two Muslims and they love Christmas.

But, I just got back from Sam’s where there were 6.5 foot tall Santas, Christmas music playing in full force, wreaths and lights everywhere, food aplenty (no need for lunch now!).

I know that in my family, we really celebrate Christmas, and don’t worship the retail intake of it all. Our Christmas is about parties with our friends and family and spending time together, doing extra charity work, decorating the house, baking cookies and desserts, not the merchandise.

I think it’s kind of ironic that many people gripe about this “War on Christmas” when Christ has so little to do with the holiday these days.

How many of you go to church on Christmas Eve? The Bosches do. How many go to church on Christmas Day? We do that too.

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

getalife, PLEASE stop with links like that last one that show 17% of Georgians think Bush is doing an excellent job and another 25% think he is doing a good job!

And just as preposterous, 22% think Purdue’s job performance is excellent???!!!

Even so, Georgia is still a nice place to live. It’s just too damned bad that is so heavily populated with screw ups and dumb a*******es!

You’re killing me man.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

I guess it takes a bunch of brainwashed Neo-Cons to get offended by retail stores wanting to SELL, SELL, SELL all that junk at Christmas time — and they have the audacity to not bring anyone’s religion into their scheme for selling their wares! The shame of it all — not using Jesus’ birth celebration as their sole means to SELL mostly items that no one needs anyway…

After all, what’s the Christmas spirit supposed to be about if not for stores selling all that junk in Jesus’ name??? And those county offices not calling their pagan holiday TREE a “Christmas” tree??? Why, it’s a WAR I tell you… those damn pagans!

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

1968: The Year That Changed Everything……..The 1968 election is four decades old, and yet we’re still rehashing that moment—that era—in the 2008 contest. Why do we come back to it? And why won’t it leave us alone?

By Prophetess Kelley P

November 13, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Christmas, my church MegaChristian, is having a Christmas tree decorating party.

Everyone is invited. You must however bring your own decorations to hang. We will provide the hooks. Just bring your $100 bills, put a hook through it and hang it on Gods tree!

We plan on having the best looking tree ever! Imagine, thousands of your beautiful decorations shimmering all lit up, glorifying God Himself.

We will also have Santa Claus himself there collecting donations for the church!

See you there!

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

I for one am sick of this relentless “War on Paganism”!

Pagans unite! (or is dyslexics untie?)

We can no longer tolerate this vicious anti-pagan sentiment, particularly at this time of the year!

Why can’t I go down to the courthouse and put up a tree in honor of Athena? (That chick was HOT!!)

Or Pan? He was kinda cool.

But whatever your pagan beliefs, PLEASE don’t forget to put the X back in Xmas!

By Bosch

November 13, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

One more thought on Christmas before I go out for a bit.

If you spend more time on Christmas Day opening gifts than appreciating and talking to your family, then your Christmas priorities are not straight.

By JNH

November 13, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

By Goldie November 13, 2007 12:13 PM After all, what’s the Christmas spirit supposed to be about if not for stores selling all that junk in Jesus’ name??? And those county offices not calling their pagan holiday TREE a “Christmas” tree??? Why, it’s a WAR I tell you… those damn pagans!

Goldie, my sides are bursting from laughter. Time to get out and do some Christmas er Holiday shopping; enough entertainment for today. Dang those stores that don’t wish to sell all that junk in Jesus’ name! Guess they must have read that portion of the Bible where Jesus threw the ‘moneychangers’ out of the house of worship. Have a nice day y’all!

By Bosch

November 13, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

AmVet -

Saw your post and had to comment -

Yes, Athena was hot but damn she was such a headache!

Later all!

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Bush vetoes $10bn increase in health/education budget, signs $40bn increase in Pentagon budget

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 12:29 PM

Amen! Dang, Bosch. That’s twice in one day!

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

{{{{CNN’s Wolf Blitzer has been warned not to focus Thursday’s Dem debate on Hillary. ‘This campaign is about issues, not on who we can bring down and destroy,’ top Clinton insider explains. ‘Blitzer should not go down to the levels of character attack and pull ‘a Russert.” Blitzer is set to moderate debate from Vegas, with questions also being posed by Suzanne Malveaux…}}}}

This whole damn thing is fixing to crash and burn, and thank God for that.

It’s the power of prayer again.

Merry Christmas!

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

By Bosch 12:29 PM

Amen! Dang, Bosch. That’s twice in one day!

By Georgia 74

November 13, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Hillary 08’

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

AmVet— Pagans Untie!!!

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

So, AmVet— did you hear the one about why Santa and Mrs. Claus don’t have any children?

By getalife

November 13, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Wolf will do a better job than timmah but they are all corporate who-res.

Things will heat up in this debate and she will give direct answers to shut up the haters.

She is polling well in Ga.

Bwa.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

How many of you would trust your wife or daughter alone with Bill Clinton?

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

How many of you would trust your wife or daughter alone with Bill Clinton?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

How many of you would trust your teenage son with a Larry Craig?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

How many of you would trust your family dog with Mitt Romney?

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

How many of y’all would trust your sons and daughters in the military with someone like Dubya?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

How many of you would trust your injured vets to George W. Bush?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

How many of you would let Rudy choose where to put your emergency headquarters?

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

I know some of you probably laughed at me the other day when I recommended that Sonny get a bunch of Native American chiefs together for his pray-a-thon and have a REAL praying and dancing shindig.

But NOOOOOOO!!!!

Look outside peeps!

It’s another sunny day with nary a drop in sight.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Why stop at praying for rain? Why doesn’t Sonny also hold a prayer vigil and pray that our bridges don’t collapse on us while driving over them? Why not pray to God that our houses will sell and not have to be foreclosed? Why not pray that those darned Iraqis will just trust their gov’t, stop their struggles for power, and let that oil start flowing again???

By Harry

November 13, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Show me where it says, “Myspace losers turn Luckovich blog into a chatroom for dumbells.”

Get lost you trolls who turn every blog into a myspace chatroom. Just go. There’s not one reason in the world why you should type another word. You cant surprise anyone anymore. Hell, I can write the next 5000 paragraphs that you will write in the future. How? Cause those paragraphs will be identical to the last 5000 paragraphs. You’re a retread. Get a new tire. Then stick your head in the toilet.

It’s the trolls, right? It’s not me, is it? It’s them, right? The trolls r stinking the blog up, right? Anyone?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Could we pray that our constitution isn’t shredded?

Could we pray that the media covers ALL the presidential candidates?

Could we pray that our food supply is kept clean and that hamburgers will go back to tasting like beef?

By Blog Troll Martha Stewart

November 13, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Holiday Napkin How-To 1. Using a rotary cutter, cut a 21-by-21-inch square of desired fabric. Cut across fabric at a 45-degree angle (a bias cut), being sure to cut in the direction of the weave of the fabric.

To make the napkin trim, use a grid ruler to cut 2-inch strips of your selected shiny satin, enough for 84 inches. With the right sides facing each other; take the edges, place together to form a V shape and pin. Sew a 1/4-inch seam along the pinned edge. Keep connecting strips together until you have one long strip measuring 84 inches.

Place the long strip into a bias-tape maker and pull through. Using Niagara sizing spray, press strip with iron to set a hard fold. Fold trim in half, spray with sizing spray, and press with iron to create a nice, stiff fold, which is ready to be sewed onto napkin.

Place trim around napkin and pin, making sure trim ends meet at center of napkin and leaving about four inches of trim at center of napkin. Make mitered corners and place into sewing machine. Sewing as close to the inside edge of the binding as you can, sew all the way around the napkin.

Using a pencil mark where trims overlap, place right sides together and sew seam across. Cut off excess. Flip napkin back over and finish sewing.

Download and print wishbone stencil template. Place stencil at right bottom corner of napkin. Using gold acrylic paint, stencil wishbone onto napkin. Allow napkin to dry for about 10 minutes and repeat one more time. Peel stencil off napkin.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Why not pray that the Chinese will stop poisoning our children and pets? Why not pray that our BILLIONS in tax dollars will not “just disappear” into the pockets and hands of those Iraqis who want to harm American troops???

So much to pray for — so little time to problem-solve.

By Midori

November 13, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

The house in Cobb County that uses 400,000 gallons a month

By Blog Troll Martha Stewart

November 13, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

A Sweet Potato a Day

With their orange flesh and dark-amber skin, sweet potatoes are easy to spot. They can be long and tapered or squat with rounded ends. Filled with vitamins B6 and C, as well as dietary fiber and beta-carotene, they’re a delicious alternative to white potatoes.

In the Kitchen Store sweet potatoes loose in a cool, dark place for up to 1 month. Their buttery flesh and sugary taste make them enjoyable simply mashed or baked, but sweet potatoes are also great roasted for a salad, simmered in an aromatic stew, or starring in a sweet souffle.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

“Hidden costs double war price to $1.5 trillion, says report:

A new study by congressional Democrats says “hidden costs” have driven the price of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to about $1.5 trillion, The Washington Post reported on Tuesday.”

Geez.

By Blog Troll Martha Stewart

November 13, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Feathered Friends Placecard Gobblers

To make these handsome place-card gobblers, download the templates; print and cut out. Trace templates onto colored card stock; cut out (use scallop scissors for the base), and snip a small triangle for the beak. Attach the head, body, wing, and beak with a glue stick. Cut 2 small slits in tail where indicated on the template. Secure ends of smooth yarn and textured yarn in 1 slit, and wrap entire tail with both yarns; secure ends in other slit, and cut yarn. Apply a small amount of craft glue directly onto yarn-wrapped tail, tracing the inner crescent; adhere body to tail piece. Inscribe guest’s name on the base; attach tab on turkey body to base with double-sided tape.

By Harry

November 13, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Dont eat meat, IN THE NEWS. Find an alternate source of protein that you can work into your daily diet. Just dont eat meat. Fish is bad too. We’ve poisoned the planet and it’s too late to point fingers.

Love Canal. That’s how much respect business has for our right to life.

Business pays a lot of money to dissuade green legislation. I am an artist. When I finish using a spray can of paint, very toxic, I just throw it away and it goes to the garbage dump. So I’m guilty too. I think, “Aw, to hell with my neighbors, to hell with the environment, to hell with america, I’m dumping, so F. U.”. Then, I hire lawyers and PR firms to publish media releases about what a green artist I am. It’s all lies, but FU. F America. And F my neighbors. I’m in business, and my bottom line is more important than your baby’s right to life, Capiche?

BUSINESS UBER ALLES. If you dont like it, join AL KAKA in Pakistan, cause that’s the only place on earth you’re welcome.

Vote GOP. 08. Business first. Then you liberals can go breath the air and drink the water yourselves. It’s poison, but too bad, I’m business. You aint. I win. that’s why america is the greatest country for biz in der verld.

Business rules. 08. Vote redstate. Liberals are lazy and they support the terrorists and they pray we lose in Iraq. Libs dont like biz. they like socialism, where resources are shared by and for everyone. Sounds like chaos to me. It is treason too.

Vote GOP. Cant bush run again? Isn’t there a way? Cant the supreme court change the law? Comeon. Bush is great for biz. biz.

biz. biz.

The buzz about bizz is that it’s the fizz!

By Blog Troll Martha Stewart

November 13, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

Mosaic Family Frames that Kids can Make.

How to make it:

Paint the frame white, repeat if needed and let dry.
Sort felt into piles by color. Glue ½” squares of felt around the outer border of the picture frame, leaving a small amount of white space between each. Colors should run in a pattern and repeat. Next, glue buttons, again in a repeating color pattern, around the border below the felt squares. Lastly, glue white wooden beads, one in each corner of the remaining frame border. Glue the brown wooden beads an equal distance away from each white wooden bead (see photo). Glue ¼” squares of brown felt in between the wooden beads, running in a straight pattern. Let dry completely and add your favorite family photo. Tips:

You can change the colors on this project to match the season or your specific décor. Use different shades of blue for an ocean theme or shades of brown for a more rustic touch. If you don’t have enough buttons, try beads or even dried beans from the pantry!

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Thanks Blog Troll — I like the “Feathered Friends Placecard Gobblers” in particular… so appropriate for this time of year. I just have to remember to use the “scallop scissors for the base” this time. I forgot that part last year…

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

{{{{The United States might be the only country in world history that reverse-propagandizes itself, magnifying its setbacks and ignoring its successes so that nothing can disturb what Sen. Joe Lieberman calls the “narrative of defeat.”}}}}

{{{{Defeating the terror group has been a consensus goal of all sides in the Iraq debate. Now that some U.S. commanders consider al-Qaeda in Iraq all but routed, Democrats should be delighted. Instead they avert their eyes from the signal accomplishment of the U.S. military during the past year. Troops have never been so notionally “supported” by everyone, while having their accomplishments so ignored.}}}}

By Molly Christmas

November 13, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

We’re mostly doing a homemade Christmas this year and I thought it would be fun to compare notes with other people who are making Christmas gifts. A few of the things I’m making are: Button wreaths and bulletin boards Charm bracelets Collage ornaments and jewelry

I’m helping my niece and nephew make personalized picture frames for their mom.

My brother is blacksmithing and knitting up a storm. I don’t know everything he’s making, but I did coax him into giving me one thing early - an over the door wreath hook for my house. So gorgeous.

I heard my mom on the sewing machine when I called her yesterday, so it is safe to assume some of us are getting some of her gorgeous handsewn creations.

By Harry

November 13, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Getalife, eveyone knows the war is costing trillions that’s last years sotry. So what? Vote for Hillary because the war costs trillions?

One day, getalife will actually advance a discussion, it can be any topic, but it will be too late. I’ve given up on getaloop years ago, he just hacks. Then, to make it seem like someone reads his finger tricks, he replies to himself using an alias.

Fine, turn the blog into a myspace salve-fest. I dont care anymore.

Jesus walked on water. I saw a guy doing that yesterday at lake allatoona. I hope I dont lose my faith as all the miracles get explained one after the other. they were saying the other day that all of jesus’s cures have happened on television during protestant healing services where people come up and testify about their disease and then get cured when the preacher yells, “HEAL!”. The mind can heal itself under certain conditions. It takes some quantum thing about expectations and observations and willpower and other mysteries we have no clue about.

I hope I dont lose my faith as I see bloggers like getalife waste his important and precious life hacking and stealing other’s ideas and words.

Take a walk, getalife, join a club, see a movie, visit your relatives, volunteer to help disadvantaged folks.

Anything but torture the readers on this blog. Please.

Begging here.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Kittens For Breakfast… And Other Delicious Recipes From the Conservative Kitchen

By Pamela Popcorn

November 13, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Thanksgiving Games for Kids and Their Families

Make this the year your family begins a new tradition, or add to an already existing family custom with some simple games. We’ve provided a list of easy to learn, Thanksgiving games and instructions listed below. Popcorn Relay Race This is a bit messy, but well worth it to see relatives young and old playing together! Set out bowls full of popcorn at one end of the room and empty bowls at another. Teams must transport the popcorn from full bowl to empty, using a measuring cup. Note: popcorn is a choking hazard for children under three!

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Here Is The Bush Cartel Recipe For Foreign Policy, As BuzzFlash Found It In A Neo-Con Cookbook

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

Here is the “Bush Cartel Recipe for Foreign Policy,” as BuzzFlash found it in a Neo-Con cookbook:

Take one part ignorance and mix it with two cups of hubris. Toss into a blender and mix slowly, as you add three cups of oil and one cup of blood. Add a pinch of vengeance (for Saddam Hussein allegedly trying to kill Poppy Bush) and drop in chopped up jello molds of France and Germany.

Remove from blender into mixing bowl larded with lies and stir at a rapid frenzy. Add a generous teaspoon of opiate for the masses. Place in rectangular tray.

Cook for 30 minutes and then decorate with red, white and blue frosting to simulate the American flag. Use little banners placed around the cake to represent multi-billion dollar sweetheart contracts given to campaign contributors — and paid for by the American taxpayer.

Add candles made from filaments of Saddam’s beard, and prepare to celebrate your triumphant foreign policy dessert, as Laura Bush flings open the White House windows and yells out: “Let Them Eat Cake!”

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Does anyone have a recipe for Cornflakes Macaroon?

How about Tool Gobbler?

By Harry

November 13, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Very creative, IN THE NEWS, but overly long, and you missed the punchline: “Let them eat yellow cake”.

There’s only one blogger who is Political Foreskin. Yes, I know how funny and great you think his blogs are, and he appreciates it, but why do you have to think that you can write at that level? It’s like Glennduh criticizing Luckovich’s work. Or trying to write a better joke. Now I know how Seinfeld feels when people approach him after his act and say, “Here’s a way to say that joke you did, a better punchline…”

I hate that. It happens to me all the time at open mikes around atlanta. I listen. I’m polite and laugh and always say, “you should be a comedian, sir, that was very funny, thank you.”

IN THE NEWS, Be briefer. Just do original insights. Dont hack. Dont do jokes. Luckovich has it covered. Trust him.

Luckovich, I aplogize for IN THE NEWS, he doesn’t know any better, you see, he’s been drinking unfiltered cobb county water for years, and well, you know……(camera to me whistling, hands in pocket, pretending not to be scratching my balls….”

By Tom Turkey

November 13, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

“Thankerchief” Arrange the children/players in a circle. Pass around a “thankerchief” (handkerchief) around as everyone recites this poem:

Thankerchief, thankerchief, around you go — Where you’ll stop, nobody knows. But when you do, someone must say, What they are thankful for this day.

The player holding the “thankerchief” when the poem ends, must say aloud, one thing for which they are thankful. This continues until everyone has had a turn.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

. . . .This following poem is composed entirely of actual quotes from George W. Bush.

Make the Pie Higher

I think we all agree, the past is over. This is still a dangerous world. It’s a world of madmen And uncertainty And potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked Is our children learning? Will the highways of the internet Become more few? How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me. I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity. I know that the human being and the fish Can coexist.

Families is where our nation finds hope Where our wings take dream. Put food on your family! Knock down the tollbooth! Vulcanize society! Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!

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By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

How the Bush Administration Changes a Light Bulb

How many members of the Bush administration does it take to change a light bulb?

One to deny that a light bulb needs to be changed;

One to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the light bulb needs to be changed;

One to blame Clinton for burning out the light bulb;

One to arrange the invasion of a country rumored to have a secret stockpile of light bulbs;

One to give a billion dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton for the new light bulb;

One to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a step ladder under the banner: Light Bulb Change Accomplished;

One administration insider to resign and write a book documenting in detail how Bush was literally in the dark;

One to viciously smear #7;

One surrogate to campaign on TV and at rallies on how George Bush has had a strong light-bulb-changing policy all along;

And finally one to confuse Americans about the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Bush Light Bulb Joke

Q: How many Bush Administration officials does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: None. There is nothing wrong with the light bulb; it’s conditions are improving every day. Any reports of its lack of incandescence are delusional spin from the liberal media. That light bulb has served honorably, and anything you say undermines the lighting effect. Why do you hate freedom?

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said “in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman.” I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He viola

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Bush and Groundhog Day

This year, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union address occur on the same day. As Air America Radio pointed out, “It is an ironic juxtaposition of events: one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication while the other involves a groundhog.”

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

The Bush Stamp

The Postal Service created a stamp with a picture of President Bush. The stamp was not sticking to envelopes. This enraged the President, who demanded a full investigation.

After a month of testing, a special Presidential commission presented the following findings:

1) The stamp is in perfect order.

2) There is nothing wrong with the applied adhesive.

3) People are spitting on the wrong side

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

George Bush and Sex

Much has already been published about the sexual preferences and notorious behavior of former President Clinton.

However, little has been reported on the sexual practices of the current Commander-in-Chief. It has recently been learned that the President and Mrs. Bush only make love with Laura Bush on top since George W. Bush can only f**k up.

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

{{{{Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that Democrats won’t approve more money for the Iraq war this year unless President Bush agrees to begin bringing troops home.}}}}

{{{{England also said that without more money the military would eventually have to close facilities, layoff civilian workers and defer contracts. Also, the budget delay could disrupt training efforts of Iraqi security forces and efforts to protect troops against roadside bombs, he said.}}}}

“Supporting” the troops, eh?

Sniveling POS Kowards.

By Harry

November 13, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

RB U R HACKING. I saw those jokes three or four years ago. Y? Y R U HACKING? Do you think anyone even one person would wade through anything you wrote or ever will write now? NO! Y should they? Show me the payoff? There’s none.

Dont myspace.

Just dont do it

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Question: Why can’t liberals find facts? Answer: They aren’t looking for any.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

The Cafferty File: Redefining Privacy

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Question: How do you confuse a liberal? Answer: You don’t, they are born that way

By getalife

November 13, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Only in Utah can a man accused of sexual assault and awaiting trial retain a position of prominence in the GOP without so much as a raised eyebrow from the party known for its family values and moral rectitude.

gang old perverts, soft on sexual crimes.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Question: Why is it so hard for Liberals to make eye contact? Answer: Clinton’s rear doesn’t have eyes.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Question: What is a sure way to teach a Liberal to fetch? Answer: Tie Hillary Clinton’s picture to a stick and throw it.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

{{Add a generous teaspoon of opiate for the masses.}}

InTheNews @ 2:35 — how did I miss getting my teaspoon of opiate? Damn.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Question: What is a Liberal’s primary “feeling?” Answer: Envy.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Question: What is the difference between giving to the poor and giving to Liberals? Answer: The poor don’t follow you around for three weeks whining for more.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Question: What is the difference between Liberalism and Communism? Answer: The Communist admit it.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Question: What do you get when you cross a Jackass with an onion? Answer: A whinny Liberal.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

It looks as though a couple of the minions of the dark side downed the entire vial this afternoon.

Won’t be a single ding dong left in the Atlanta metroplex after that bunch gets the munchies.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Nobody does it better than me.

You are a stinky poo copy cat.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Business as usual will not be the norm over the next 48 hours as Secretaries of State in all fifty states will each receive subpoenas in the National Clean Election lawsuit, according to an announcement made Monday night by activist Bernie Ellis at the Belcourt Theatre in Nashville. There is still time, Ellis said, to require a paper trail for the 2008 election.

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Hillary’s Deal With the Devil

Hillary was finishing up a day as Senator for New York when the Devil suddenly appeared in her office and made her an offer…

“I am here to offer you a deal,” the Devil said. “I will give you unlimited wealth, even more power, and a media that will pander to your every whim. In return, all I ask for is your soul, the souls of every member of your family, and the souls of all your constituents.”

Hillary pondered for a moment and then asked, “Unlimited wealth and power?”

“Absolutely unlimited,” the Devil asserted.

“A pandering media?” she asked.

“They’ll fall over themselves to support you, no matter what you say or do,” the Devil assured.

“And you want my soul, my family’s souls, and the souls of my constituents?” she asked.

“Yes. All of them,” the Devil answered.

Hillary was deep in thought for a moment, then finally spoke:

“So…what’s the catch?”

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

It’s really a shame that the Repugs don’t support our troops:

Last week, I stood up with Senators Dick Durbin and Jack Reed, pleading for Congress to pass this bill - and they did. But, despite the President talking a lot about what we owe veterans on Saturday, today, with his veto pen he told veterans, “We don’t owe you [BLEEP].”

Vets’ Suicide Rate “Stunning”

By JNH

November 13, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

By Goldie November 13, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this Why not pray that the Chinese will stop poisoning our children and pets? Why not pray that our BILLIONS in tax dollars will not “just disappear” into the pockets and hands of those Iraqis who want to harm American troops???

Hello again! Just completed the first Christmas-Holiday spree and definitely need a little entertainment! You are sooo right again Goldie. But who says companies need regulations? Big $ must take priority. And, if you ever thought about becoming a vegetarian, now would be the time! Also, some of our billions did disappear (need I say more)…….

By getalife

November 13, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry duh,

They will cave to defense interests.

The Senate has been wh-oring to these pimps since the start.

$2 trillion is too much money to let them get their greedy hands on.

Geez.

By Analchord

November 13, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

This blog’s commenting today is why lions eat their young. (rodney dangerfield)

But maybe you conservatives are right. Who am I to criticize your comments. I dont know why I always start picking at bloggers. Well, maybe I do know why, it’s my childhood. I had a strange experience and it’s affected me deeply throughout my entire life. The first grade was hard on me. It was a Catholic school, and nuns seems like world trade centers in basic darth vader.

One day, our class was in church attending daily mass, which was mandatory during lent. I dont know why my little friend next to me had ants in his pants that day, but soon I had ants in my pants 2. He started giggling, so I giggled. He started slapping at me, so I slapped at him. Then he would stand up, and sit down, and stand up again over and over laughing and giggling, so I followed in lock step. The nuns were sitting directly behind us only three or four pews away taking it all in. What happened next explains a lot about me. I dont know if I should share it. It’s really shocking and, well, there are children who can access this blog, and I certainly dont want to offend any religious people here who really believe in the nuns, so, I wont continue unless Glennduh (the troll) replies to this with a comment that reads, “I was a dirty bird, analchord is not grungy, he’s beachin’”

No nick jacking, people, just because you want to see the material.

By physicist phunnies

November 13, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, “I think I’ve lost an electron.” The other says, “Are you sure?” The first says, “Yes, I’m positive…”

So, a neutron walks into a bar. “I’d like a beer” he says. The bartender promptly serves up a beer. “How much will that be?” asks the neutron.

“For you?” replies the bartender, “no charge.”

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

{{Also, some of our billions did disappear (need I say more)……}}

JNH— just more evidence that the Repug Party is not the party of “fiscal responsibility”, as they used to claim. Who needs their ideology these days? It’s all about incompetence, cronyism and greed.

And don’t get me started on their love of “corporate welfare” and allowing their CEO buddies to retire with MILLIONS of $$$ while taking their companies into bankruptcy…

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

O’Reilly unleashes Fox lawyers in attempt to sink critic’s career

By Analchord

November 13, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Great stuff, phys funnies. I give up. Nobody can stop you clowns from myspacing. nobody.

Myspace away, good people.

By JNH

November 13, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

By Molly Christmas November 13, 2007 2:30 PM | I heard my mom on the sewing machine when I called her yesterday, so it is safe to assume some of us are getting some of her gorgeous handsewn creations.

Guess I’m on a roll today. Possibly because I tend to ‘come alive’ when the weather becomes cooler. Thank you Molly Christmas. I remember when my Mother made many Christmas decorations (we couldn’t afford many store bought ones). She made the most beautiful quilts! Of course, I’m not prejudiced! Later in life, in addition to quilts to keep us warm, she made her children Christmas decorations to hang on the tree, bells, trees, angels etc. etc.”OH MEMORIES THAT BLESS AND BURN.” I didn’t coin that phrase. In fact I dont know where it came from. Thanks for sharing….

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Shot down in flames, shot down in flames, ain’t a shame, to be shot down in flames:

{{{{CBSNEWSNYT POLL SET FOR RELEASE ON WEDNESDAY: IOWA: HILLARY 25%; EDWARDS 23%; OBAMA 22% NH: HILLARY 27%; OBAMA 22%; EDWARDS 9%}}}}

Against a couple of lightweights.

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Bush Records Back-To-Back Interviews For Fox News And Fox Business Channel …………..With 64 percent of the American public unhappy with the job he is doing, Bush is sticking to friendly media. In September, the White House cherry-picked NPR’s Juan Williams — who is also a Fox News contributor — to conduct an exclusive interview. When NPR insisted that someone other than Williams interview the President, the White House backed out. “[W]e’re grateful for the opportunity to talk to the president but we wanted to determine who did the interview,” said Perino……………. Bush’s father, George H.W., also recently appeared on Fox News and said that when he watches TV news, he tends to “turn on the Fox.” Vice President Cheney requires that all televisions in his hotel room be turned to Fox News whenever he travels and in 2004, he told “a conference call” of “tens of thousands of Republicans” that he ends up “spending a lot of time watching Fox News.”

By Liberal Looney Tunes

November 13, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

All that glitters is not Goldie.

Waaaaaa

””“”It’s all about incompetence, cronyism and greed.”“”“

””“”And don’t get me started on their love of “corporate welfare” and allowing their CEO buddies to retire with MILLIONS of $$$”“”“

Question: What is a Liberal’s primary “feeling?” Answer: Envy.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Fox News Imploding? Desperate? Lashing Out?

By JN H

November 13, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

By Goldie November 13, 2007 3:36 PM And don’t get me started on their love of “corporate welfare” and allowing their CEO buddies to retire with MILLIONS of $$$ while taking their companies into bankruptcy…

No way will I ‘get you started’ on this crap! I’m probably one of the most disgusted citizens in the country. Something has GOT TO GIVE! Hopefully in November!!!!!!!!!!

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Tonight CBS will air the first of a two-part series on the “hidden epidemic” of military suicides, revealing numbers that CBS calls “stunning.” The report examines data on the suicide rate amongst veterans once they return home, which indicates a serious mental health issue — and a hidden mortality rate.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Dollar Policy: Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Iraq detains top cop after bomb find The head of police intelligence in Iraq’s Karbala province has been detained after roadside bombs and other weapons were found in a raid on his house, a police spokesman said on Sunday.

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Large Fred, speaking truth to power?

BURLINGTON, Iowa — Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson said “the political pendulum is swinging” against his party, and Republicans needs to work harder to win over independent voters.

“Everybody knows what’s at stake next year, but I wonder if we’ve come to terms with the difficulty we’ve got as Republicans, and the fact that we’re going to have to do a lot of things very well to prevail,” the former Tennessee senator said.

What the Republican Party needs, Thompson said, is to nominate a candidate like himself who can “go before the American people and ask for the vote of a cross-section of Americans.”

(WTF??!!)

He warned that there are a growing number of independents who are in danger of being swept up by the Democratic Party, and urged his party to “take our commonsense conservative principles and make them applicable to today’s circumstances.”

(I’d love to see what pray tell those would be!! This independent would have to be on some serious Prozac to think THIS is the guy to run the country!!))

“For a lot of reasons, (independents) don’t like the ways things are going he said.

Thompson noted that only once in the past 50 years has a party been able to elect a president of its party three terms in a row.

“The political pendulum is swinging against us. Everybody knows that the president’s numbers are down,” he said. He also pointed to the greater number of Republican seats up in Congress as opposed to Democratic seats, and said experts are predicting Republicans will lose even more control.

Amen, Large Fred, Amen.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

A total of 70% of American voters say that Vice President Dick Cheney has abused his powers as vice president. Of the 70%, 26% (18% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 13% (9% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 61% (43% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Cheney should be impeached and removed from office.

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Senate Republicans are in trouble, and last week’s Democratic victories in Kentucky and Virginia suggest their challenges may be steeper than even they thought.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

“The Republican Party, Cleland said, will not survive a sinking economy and shifting attitudes about the war in Iraq. He urged Democrats to “take this disastrous war and this disastrous economy and give the Republicans a colonoscopy.”

“The Republicans have brought us to the brink of disaster,” said Cleland, who lost his U.S. Senate seat in the 2002 election. “You’re going to get re-elected, and your party is going to get re-elected.”

Two issues will bring down Republicans in office, especially those at the national level, Cleland said.

The former senator said he already is seeing the effects of voter rejection of Republican policies in states such as Kentucky, where a Democrat was elected governor, and Virginia, where the Democrats took control of the commonwealth’s Senate.

“In ‘08, the Republicans are all on the Titanic. The water is coming over the deck,” Cleland said.”

$2 trillion for Iraq and w vetoes Health and Education.

No domestic spending, just Iraqi welfare.

Drudge is lying about Clinton pressuring Wolf.

He just said it was a lie.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

drudge reports in big bold letters headlining his blog:

WOLF WARNED: NO GANGING UP ON HILLARY IN VEGAS!

Wolf just said it is a lie!

drudge just gave the Clintons a huge victory because all the smears will not be credible.

Thanks drudge!

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

I agree with Cleland about this new GOP being on board the Titanic, and have said as much before.

But in their completely reality-challenged and predictable fashion, rather than taking a real close look at the impending disaster, and actually taking action to change their course, the nincumpoops simply remark about how cool that iceberg looks and keep plodding ahead.

They demand no fundamental change in their “leaders” or their failed agenda. Instead they try coyly to cloak their many mistakes and keep invoking the sacred name of Ronald Reagan in the hopes that that alone will cause their ship to somehow magically avoid the collision.

Good luck with that, soon to be drowning fools.

By Goldie

November 13, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

InTheNews @ 3:40 — I’ve often wondered how Bill-O would keep that “falafel thing” together while using it to rub down his sexual prey… I just can’t keep from laughing at the mental picture of that falafel being used in his fantasy shower! Whatever could he be talking about and he thinks that some woman will be turned on by his “falafel talk”???

By ask hillary

November 13, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

The college student who was told what question to ask at one of New York Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign events says “voters have the right to know what happened” and she wasn’t the only one who was planted.

In an exclusive on-camera interview with CNN, Muriel Gallo-Chasanoff, a 19-year-old sophomore at Grinnell College in Grinnell, Iowa, said that giving anyone specific questions to ask is “dishonest,” and the whole incident has given her a negative outlook on politics.

Gallo-Chasanoff, whose story was first reported in the campus newspaper, said what happened was really pretty simple: She says a senior Clinton staffer asked if she’d like to ask the senator a question after an energy speech the Democratic presidential hopeful gave in Newton, Iowa, on November 6.

“I sort of thought about it, and I said ‘Yeah, can I ask how her energy plan compares to the other candidates’ energy plans?’” Gallo-Chasanoff said Monday night. “‘I don’t think that’s a good idea,” the staffer said, according to Gallo-Chasanoff, “because I don’t know how familiar she is with their plans.

In a separate statement in response to the campus article, the campaign also added,

“On this occasion a member of our staff did discuss a possible question about Senator Clinton’s energy plan at a forum. … This is not standard policy and will not be repeated again.”

Gallo-Chasanoff may have some doubts about that one as well.

“After the event,” she said, “I heard another man … talking about the question he asked, and he said that the campaign had asked him to ask that question.”

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Somebody needs to screen 9 1/2 weeks for BOR.

That is, if he’s in to food.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

November 13, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

I think that the right ought to reconsider bombing Iran:

The leader of the Iranian delegation, Mohsen Yahyavi, stated according to the article that “homosexuals deserve to be executed, or tortured, and possibly both.”

“Minutes taken by an official describe a meeting between British and Iranian MPs at the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a peace body, in May. When the Britons raised the hangings of Asqari and Marhouni, the leader of the Iranian delegation, Mr Yahyavi, a member of his parliament’s energy committee, was unflinching. He ‘explained that according to Islam gays and lesbianism were not permitted,’ the record states. ‘He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem, but those in overt activity should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. He argued that homosexuality is against human nature and that humans are here to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce.’

“Nicole Pichet, a researcher who also took notes of the gathering, told The Times that the discussion began with British MPs discussing the underage gay hangings. Mr Yahyavi responded by saying homosexuality was to blame for a lot of diseases such as Aids.”

I think that Pat Robertson and this guy coul dget along very well. There doesn’t seem to me to be that much of a differnce between a winger and an Islamic zealot we just have to get together and focus on killing the common enemies: Gay people.

After all, the gay people caused 9/11 just as Robertson said. So if we had implemented the Iranian policy 9/11 would never have happened. Say what you will about the Iranians, they ain’t liberals. They appear to be as conservative as it gets.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Wow, I sure did a lot of posting while I was away from the computer. Either that, or some extremely childish liberal has been posting again using my name. What is the matter with you cry baby liberals that you feel the need to post stuff under other people’s ID’s? Are you that devoid of decency that you can’t have debate without stooping to the level of a 5 year old?

Same old pattern… Can’t defend your comments, so you change the subject and call people names. Pathetic!!

I noticed nobody said they would trust their wife or daughter alone with slick Willy. Why not? He’s an honest and bright guy who only did what everyone else is doing, right? Be honest, you wouldn’t allow it because deep down, you know he’s a lying POS who couldn’t be trusted.

Next question… Do you really think Hillary is any different? Do you honestly belive she was cut from a different piece of cloth? Are you really that gullible?

By IN THE NEWS

November 13, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Above & Beyond Posted by NanceGreggs

No soldier should have to die on the other side of the world because a bunch of traitorous neocons decided it was a good idea to send him there.

No soldier should be sent into combat under-equipped because the profits of war-profiteers are considered more important than his safety.

No soldier should return from battle in the field only to face a battle of red-tape in order to get his due after he has served.

No soldier should come home to the prospect of being homeless.

No soldier should have to beg on the street for quarters after fighting a war that cost billions.

No soldier should have to worry about how his family will survive financially, while they worry about whether he will survive at all.

No soldier should have to risk his life knowing his president will later refer to his ultimate sacrifice as just a number.

No soldier should be considered qualified to fight a war, if he can later be disqualified for access to the care he needs as a result of having done so.

No soldier should be told he is fighting for his countrymen’s rights and freedoms, if those rights and freedoms are being stripped away from himself and his fellow citizens as he fights.

No soldier should be told that he is free to fight, but not free to speak about what the fight is really all about.

No soldier should live in fear of being tortured knowing his own country has justified its use.

No soldier should be used as a political talking point, nor should his support be an empty slogan on a bumpersticker instead of the real thing.

No soldier should be used as background in a photo-op, especially by the people whose lies sent him into an unnecessary war in the first place.

No soldier should ever have to face death wondering if he is dying for his country, or for the corporate profits to be made after he is gone.

No soldier should ever have to wonder whether his fate is being determined by those reaching for a dream of future peace, or those hoping for the power and money that only the nightmare of endless war can ensure.

No soldier.

Anywhere.

At any time.

Ever.

By RB from Gwinnett

November 13, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Wow, I sure did a lot of posting while I was away from the computer. Either that, or some extremely childish liberal has been posting again using my name. What is the matter with you cry baby liberals that you feel the need to post stuff under other people’s ID’s? Are you that devoid of decency that you can’t have debate without stooping to the level of a 5 year old?

Same old pattern… Can’t defend your comments, so you change the subject and call people names. Pathetic!!

I noticed nobody said they would trust their wife or daughter alone with slick Willy. Why not? He’s an honest and bright guy who only did what everyone else is doing, right? Be honest, you wouldn’t allow it because deep down, you know he’s a lying POS who couldn’t be trusted.

Next question… Do you really think Hillary is any different? Do you honestly belive she was cut from a different piece of cloth? Are you really that gullible?

By AmVet

November 13, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Wow, the usually unified Bible thumpers seem to be singing from different hymnals these days.

The mis-named Right to Lifers want large Fred.

The always looney Pat Robertston inexplicably wants to elect the baby-killer Rudy.

The Fred Phelps fan, Sam Brownback is brownbacking McCain.

And the nearly Christian Mitt has gotten endorsements from those stalwart progressives Bob Jones and Paul Weyrich.

And what of Arkansas’ poor Hucklebee Hound?

It’s not even January and already this GOP race has become a laugh fest!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

November 13, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

RB,

The problem isn’t Bill. I wouldn’t trust my wife or daughter with Bill. However, I would trust them with Bush as they like most people these days, excluding me, you and a few other nut jobs, find him particularly disgusting and repulsive. I have been told that in women’s minds having sex with Bush would be akin to being raped by a huge puss-filled boil. I don’t know, but I think that’s a bad thing.

Of course you put me, Hannity, O’Reilly, Sen. Craig and Bush in the same room, and I wouldn’t trust any of us. It would be Sodom and Gamorrah all over again. Well, I guess technically it would just be Sodom.

RWNJIFG

By Paul

November 13, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

In The News

You were really off on leaders taking responsibility, not shifting blame, buck stops here stuff yesterday. I really thought I’d see some day-to-day consistency and read a number of headlines copied from the nonbiased sources from which you draw, all expressing outrage at Hillary planting people in the audience at her appearances, with prearranged questions on safe topics, so she could call on them and demonstrate her command of the issues.

I thought that would happen, as you’ve so often shown how Pres Bush won’t fire people who perform poorly, how he won’t take responsibility for the actions of his underlings. “I didn’t know” as her excuse doesn’t exactly give one a warm and fuzzy feeling about her ability to make sure her future press secretaries and publicists don’t put out false information, does it? Or plant stories in the media? I believe your sources have regularly criticized this administration for doing that. Heck, I even thought you and they were talking about Principles. Didn’t matter Who the subject was, it’s the Principle that counts.

Well, it seems “I didn’t know what my own organization was doing” (this from a politician with an unequalled reputation for micromanagement) is the new standard for taking responsibility.

I’d love to see Obama make a point about honesty, integrity, taking responsibility Thursday night. Kinda like his point about Hillary continuing the secrecy practices of the Bush Administration. But only Obama. Not Dodd. Or Biden. Or anyone else. Can’t have these mean men picking on the poor woman without Bill there to defend her.

Maybe she can bring her broom with her and brush them off the stage. (That was a reference to her speech a couple days ago telling women to bring their mops and brooms…).

Keep checking your websites. I’m sure you’ll find a comment critical of Hillary’s performance during this episode to link to.

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

{{{{Also obvious: There are fewer votes now in Congress—and less cause—to cut off funding for the war than there were last Spring. A renewed campaign on the part of the hapless Democratic leadership to cut off the supplemental funds will only increase the public sense of Democratic futility. It will also play into the very real, and growing, public perception that Democrats are too busy wasting time on symbolic measures (like trying to cut off funds for the war) and shoveling pork (the water projects bill) to pass anything substantive for the public good. Too much time, and political capital, has been wasted fighting Bush legislatively on the war. I’m sure the President and the Republican Party are salivating over the prospect that Democrats will waste more time and capital over it this month…especially at a moment, however fleeting, when the situation on the ground seems to have improved in Iraq. Democrats need to think this over very, very carefully before they proceed.}}}}

Yes, indeed. Too bad they aren’t capable of developing any thoughts.

{{{{And yet: The reduction of violence is real. The defeat of Al Qaeda in Iraq—sneezed at by some antiwar commentators—is nothing to sneeze at. The bottom-up efforts to reconcile Sunnis and Shi’ites across the scarred Anbar/Karbala provincial border, which I wrote about a few weeks ago, quite possibly reflect an Iraqi exhaustion with violence that has to be taken seriously as well. There is no question that the performance of the US military has improved markedly under the smarter, more flexible and creative leadership provided this year by General Petraeus. And the withdrawal of U.S. troops is beginning. The refusal of the antiwar movement—or some sections of it—to recognize these developments isn’t helping its credibility.}}}}

Cal Thomas?

Sean Hannity?

Rushbo?

Nope, Joe Klein, Chief Pinko, hehehehehe.

Sweet.

By Luckoduh

November 13, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

{{{{A good question, indeed. Why did the Clinton campaign want her to keep quiet? A better question is why the campaign feels the need to exercise such tight control over Hillary Clinton. Is she such a bad candidate on the stump that they have to fake questions and attempt to intimidate and vilify national news reporters in order to keep people from discovering it?}}}}

{{{{Apparently they think so. And if they think she’s that bad, imagine how bad she really is.}}}}

Why would we have to imagine?

I already know how stupid this POS is.

They just keep proving it for us.

Thanks.

By Abbie

November 13, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

Dammit, they’re winning! What are we going to do for a campaign strategy?

By getalife

November 13, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

It is great news they are drawing down to pre surge levels and they will be home for the Holidays.

Many will go back to the real war in Afghanistan. ABC had a great coverage on this real war last night. The Taliban put women and children on top of houses so we can’t engage.

They talk to the clerics after they bombed a house and the clerics claimed they killed five civilians. The Taliban hunted our troops and killed two.

It is bigger hell hole than Iraq with worse terrain and smaller platoons.

By Paul

November 13, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh

Statfor’s latest update just arrived. Unfortunately, I can’t link to it - but people can get free emails of the reports by signing up at stratfor dot com. The title is “Iraq: Positive Signs.”

Here’s the main point:

“The important question is whether we are seeing a turning point in Iraq. The answer is that it appears so, but not primarily because of the effectiveness of U.S. military operations. Rather, it is the result of U.S. military operations coupled with a much more complex and sophisticated approach to Iraq. To be more precise, a series of political initiatives that the United States had undertaken over the past two years in fits and starts has been united into a single orchestrated effort. The result of these efforts was a series of political decisions on the part of various Iraqi parties not only to reduce attacks against U.S. troops but also to bring the civil war under control.

A few months ago, we laid out four scenarios for Iraq, including the possibility that that United States would maintain troops there indefinitely. At the time, we argued against this idea on the assumption that what had not worked previously would not work in the future. Instead, we argued that resisting Iranian power required that efforts to create security be stopped and troops moved to blocking positions along the Saudi border. We had not calculated that the United States would now supplement combat operations with a highly sophisticated and nuanced political offensive. Therefore, we were wrong in underestimating the effectiveness of the scenario. “

They distinguished between “turning point” and “victory” and went in depth about Sunni-Shia-insurgency differences - and how the US had changed tactics in their interactions.

It’s been long and difficult, but it appears the US military and gov’t agencies have finally hit upon a methodology with promise. Notice how the article said “complex, sophisticated, nuanced?”

Not bad for a Commander in Chief who’s a total dunce and a moron, eh?

By Chesty

November 13, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS @ 4:43

You are free to spout oracular, but if you try reciting that litany to any “soldier” (to say nothing of Marines, airmen, sailors) returning from Iraq, he or she will lay you flat before you can finish the recitation of your inanely presumptuous bill of rights.

Any soldier.

Any place.

Anytime.

Try it. Prove me wrong.

By Paul

November 13, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

getalife

I recommended the book “On the Hunt” by Col David Hunt to Dusty, yesterday. I’ll recommend it to you, too.

The guy appears on Fox as a military analyst.

I’m only about a fourth through, but several themes emerge. He’s scathing in his criticisms of the Administration, military #ss-covering, civilian incompetence and self-serving politicians in the war on terror and Iraq (unnecessary and based on sheer incompetence from the git-go, he says) - hey, what do you expect from a Fox News contributor? :-)

I find some of it a bit over-emotional, don’t agree with his read of some situations - but overall, he makes you seem pretty mellow!

By @@

November 13, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Dang Paul, I was just about to post that.

That’s what I like about Stratfor, they tell it like it is and admit when their predictions were wrong.

For some reason my online access hasn’t let me in today. I checked my e-mail and there it was.

Goldie:

Of course you’re optimistic about politics. That goes to show you’re not too bright.

Expand your mind Goldie. Venture out.

By TW

November 13, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 4:43 – Thanks for the post. Yes, there is no greater support of a soldier than the electorate ensuring the discretion of the commander in chief. May God forgive the snake oil consumers who make up 97% of the Republican Party. Let the other 3% put A/C in their caskets…

By Paul

November 13, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

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That’s the thing about prognosticating - events change, new elements enter in, factors respond a bit differently and give greater or lesser influence to other factors. Unlike many gov’t intel reports, they don’t hedge their bets so much you can’t tell what their analysis is.

So I see it more updating to current situations. Wrong sometimes, sure - but at least they stick their necks out.

But this new reality rather calls into question some of the Democratic candidates’ plan to - what - redeploy to other countries, or out to the hinterlands, which would remove the opportunities for direct interaction and reassurance of Sunni leaders. Now there’s another good question for Thursday night.

Shame we’ll never hear anything close.

By @@

November 13, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

So where have we, the American public been for the last two years?

(((To be more precise,——->a series of political initiatives that the United States had undertaken over the past two years<——- in fits and starts has been united into a single orchestrated effort.)))

Engaged in our own little political war on the homefront.

Not me, I’ve been reading, watching and waiting — cheering for our troops in Iraq — knowing full well that there is nothing they CAN’T do.

They’re the bestest!!!!!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

November 13, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Paul,

That’s not the half of it. This so-called dunce and moron has been able to talk about supporting democracy AND support Musharraf. He has been able to say that regimes with dictators and WMD’s are the enemy AND support Musharraf at the same time. Pure genius!!! We will back Musharaff until ghe goes the way of the Shah, leading to an Ayatollah having hundreds of nukes capable of hitting Isreal, Greece and Australia and some will say that not going after Bin Laden in Pakistan was a good idea because of the stability it did not actually support or sustain.

This so-called idiot has overthrown Saddam at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars, thousands of lives and the end result is that we found no WMD and Iran is more of a threat than when we started AND there are still people who think that Iraq was the smart move.

We have Bush and other wingers convincing us that terrorists are scarier than the Nazis and the Soviet Union. We have put a bunch of cave dwelling morons in turbans and assault rifles on par with Hitler and Stalin. Why? So that the government can take our freedoms in the name of them. Brilliant ain’t it??? I mean we didn’t tap your phone or need sneak and peak warrants or suspend habeas corpus to protect us from a country who could destroy the planet in 20 minutes but all of our freedoms are negotiable in light of terrorism. I mean this guys got 30percent of the population cowering in a closet ready to burn the Constitution so they’ll be safe and people want to call him dumb?

It took very brilliant men hundreds of years to get us to the point where the idea of Government for the people by the people and protected by a Constitution came to fruition here in this country. To unravel that in the course of less than seven years is nothing if not pure genius.

RWNJIFG

By Chesty

November 13, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

And in spite of all those good-faith criticisms Col. Hunt supports the troops and their mission. It’s just amazing how a highly intelligent person can hold two thoughts in his head simultaneously.

By @@

November 13, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

The ever-changing, ever-evolving situation in Iraq will have the Democrats engaged in their own little “fits and re-starts” eh Paul?

By getalife

November 13, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

No thanks Paul.

I suggest any book by the CIA on obl to see how we created that monster.

Stupid how we work with them then declare war against them.

Probably happen in Pakistan too.

By Paul

November 13, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

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They soldier through in spite of the wanting leadership they sometimes experience.

But, where’s the American public in? Getting the important information from the premier sources so they can understand…

From sources that trumpet ‘One Iraqi Civilian Killed by American Civilian Contractors’ on page One and reports of the hugely reduced American and civilian casualties on page…. wait, do they even report it? Or just ignore it?

By @@

November 13, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

A little extra bonus for everybody.

WD40 gets oil-based paint off your hands. No need for mineral spirits.

I did not know that until twenty minutes ago.

Cool!

By Paul

November 13, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG

My point was, by broad-brushing an individual as entirely moronic, the American people are done a disservice. When good things happen, it’s by happenstance. Even highly complex things. When contradictions as you point out occur - most will blithely dismiss them with a “yeah, of course, whatever” rather than saying “hey, we’re doing X here and Y there - why the disconnect?” That’s how policy moves forward.

Time’s too short to address the rest of what I see as typical American arrogance in dismissing peoples of other cultures who don’t have the same ideology or armies as we do -

By Paul

November 13, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

getalife

The future of Pakistan keeps me awake some nights. Truly scary.

By getalife

November 13, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

Did Stratfor cover this?

Instead of opinions, you might want to read reality.

Geez.

By Paul

November 13, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

getalife

They cover China a lot.

Diesel-electric subs are the absolute worse to detect. More difficult than nukes a lot of times. Particularly if they lay on the bottom until ships get close.

But it also shows great advances in their vibration control. Time for a big rethink here.

By RW-(the original)

November 13, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{{November 13, 2007 — CBS News writers could be joining their entertainment colleagues on the picket lines.}}}}}

Aren’t they just supposed to tell us what happened that day?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

November 13, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS:

Chesty is right. No soldier wants to believe that any of the stuff you are talking about is even possible much less true. That is the brillance of being a “war President.” And every President who wants real power should get involved with one even if you have to make stuff up to get it to happen. The reason is simple. Just look at the dynamics:

1) You have soldiers who are unlikely to want think that what they are doing is anything less than what is necesary and moral. Would you want to be thinking about politics while you are getting shot at? Would you want to be risking your life for a senseless reason? Would you want to bury your friends thinking they died for nothing? Hell no. You will convince yourself otherwise simply to protect yourself emotionally.

Do you think that your average Nazi soldier was evil or was he just convinced that his leaders were right? You have to be an idiot to think that every German between 12 and 30 was an evil psycopath like Hitler. Of course not, they were manipulated and then motivated by fear and patriotism. I am certain that your average Nazi soldier was just as kind and moral and family oriented as any average US soldier yet they did unspeakable acts for unspeakable reasons.

2) When you are the President and at war you can deflect criticism because every criticism undermines the troops and enboldens the enemy.

This is why war is good for GOP presidents and why every one since Ford has used the military in seemingly stupid and senseless missions. Its just good politics.

The power to make war is the greatest of all powers. It is the reason that all despots seek it. They want external and internal enemies. Like terrorists and liberals and gays and immigrants. This keeps people afraid. Once people are afraid then they will bend to your will. Fear and war makes money and wins elections. So what if a few poor kids’ guts and blood are used to grease that machine? I know that we wingers don’t. Never have. Never will.

RWNJIFG

By TW

November 13, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this

$1.9 trillion so far? When Russert asked Rumsfeld about speculation that it might cost more than $200B his response was ‘baloney’…lied about the WMD…lied about the cost…lied about ‘mission accomplished’…and didn’t they say last week that it turns out bin laden is not an iraqi???? Go figure.

Who needs al qaeda when you’ve got the Republicans?????