Mike Luckovich

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

Even though there is nothing but good news coming out of the war, the libs won’t stop whining about it until, I guess, the Iraqis elect a democrat for president:

{{{{Troop deaths may hit 19-month low- The report faulted Iraq for not passing legislation to foster reconciliation among Shiite Muslims, Sunnis and Kurds, and said that “U.S. efforts lack strategies with clear purpose, scope, roles and performance measures.”-Urinal}}}}

We reduce the number of troops getting killed, which we should all be happy about, but the libs just move down to the next item on their cry baby list.

Think about this for a second, the PLAN is to kill those who don’t want to RENCONCILE.

And that’s what we are doing.

Aren’t the libs capable of understanding the basics?

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{{{{ The stay will remain in effect until the full court reviews an appeal filed Monday by lawyers for the inmate, Earl W. Berry, who is on death row for having kidnapped and killed a woman 20 years ago.-Urinal}}}}

You can just bet, when it comes to saving the life of some scumbag on death row, you are not going to get the whole story from the Atlanta Urinal Constitution:

{{{{Mr. Berry was condemned for abducting and killing Mary Bounds, 56, as she was leaving her church in Houston, Miss., on Nov. 29, 1987. Mr. Berry, who had been drinking heavily, drove the victim to the edge of a remote field intending to rape her, prosecutors said. Then he decided not to rape her, but beat her with his fists.}}}}

Must have been a wonderful way to die.

Well, not quite as wonderful as this POS will die. With his pervert defenders the AJC weeping all the way.

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Look at this garbage the Urinal prints trying to get “free” health for the world, well, free except the tax payer:

{{{{About one of every eight veterans under the age of 65 is uninsured, a finding that contradicts the assumption many have that all vets qualify for free health care through the Department of Veterans Affairs, says a new study.-Urinal}}}}

Duh.

Geez, the libs “discovered” that you have to retire from the military with at least 20 years service to get lifetime “care” from the Veteran’s Administration, like any normal, non pinko person would make that a goal.

These are the same people that want to be in charge of national security, they ha

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this

{{{{After nearly three decades in the military, William T. Russell’s latest mission has brought him to Johnstown. The career Army man, just two years short of retirement, has left the service and moved to the Flood City in order to mount a political campaign against veteran Democratic U.S. Rep. John Murtha.}}}}

Donate here.

Take America back from the gluttons.

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{{{{Democrats Barack Obama and John Edwards sharply challenged Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s candor, consistency and judgment Tuesday in a televised debate that underscored her front-runner status two months before the first presidential primary votes.}}}}

{{{{Obama, the Illinois senator, began immediately, saying Clinton has changed her positions on the North American Free Trade Agreement, torture policies and the Iraq war. Leadership, he said, does not mean “changing positions whenever it’s politically convenient.”}}}}

{{{{Edwards, the former North Carolina senator, was even sharper at times, saying Clinton “defends a broken system that’s corrupt in Washington, D.C.” He stood by his earlier claim that she has engaged in “doubletalk.”}}}}

{{{{But she avoided direct answers to several questions. The New York senator wouldn’t say how she would address the fiscal crisis threatening Social Security, she declined to pledge whether she would stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon or say whether she supports giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. Rather, she tried to turn every issue into an argument against President Bush.}}}}

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RE’s, er, IN THE NEWS’s candidate:

{{{{In the weird last minutes of the debate (the period, by the way, when The Fix made it onto the basketball court in high school) Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) gave us a highlight. Asked about the statement by actress Shirley MacLaine that Kucinich had seen a UFO at her house, Kucinich said that he had. He quickly sought to clarify — an “unidentified flying object” he said holding up his hand — but man oh man.}}}}

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

How dumb is it to think I’m RWNJIFG?

Whom I admire greatly. He does a great job.

But y’all know (ok the bright ones know) my scibblings have nowhere near the eloquence of RWNJIFG.

But Duh, being the voice of the many in his head, just can’t see.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Sign the Petition

Giuliani’s failure to provide FDNY with adequate radios must be investigated

We, The Undersigned, request an investigation into the Giuliani administration’s failure between 1994 and 2001 to equip firefighters with the radio equipment they needed to perform their duties on 9/11 with the highest likelihood of their own survival. We ask for an investigation to find answers to the following, unresolved questions:

Why was nothing done to improve FDNY radio performance for seven years after a clear need was demonstrated in the 1993 World Trade Center attack?

When new radios were finally ordered, why did the city award a contract to Motorola without a competitive bidding process?

Once Motorola was given the contract, why did its cost jump from $1.4 million to $14 million?

Why were these new radios never field tested?

The families of the firefighters who lost their lives on 9/11 deserve answers to these questions. We call on a full, public investigation to uncover the facts behind the Giuliani administration’s failure to equip the New York Fire Department with radios that could have saved the lives of first responders on 9/11.

The Real Rudy

By BOMB IRAN and KILL Ahmadnutjob NOW(Mad As Zell)

October 31, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Good Cartoon Mike and a valid point today because the Democrat Party has worn out their welcome with the American People.

Just a few tidbits from the Democrap Party “Debate” last night:

-PCP, LSD, marijuana, crack and meth smoking hippy munchkin tree hugger Dennis Kucinich testified that he regularly sees UFOs. -New Mexico Governor and Habitual Lier, Bill Richardson, accuses the Federal Government of hiding the existance of UFOs. -Perennial Panderer, Cold-hearted Sociopathic Carpetbagger, Eurotrash-style Socialist and Ivory Queen Pinko Commie, Hitlery Clinton (as opposed to Ebony Queen Pinko, Cynthia “Jihad Sindy” Tucker), WANTS TO GIVE DRIVERS’ LICENSES TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT INVADERS. -In addition to Barack HUSSEIN Osama who supported his facist namesake, Saddam Hussein, by opposing our President and the War On Islamafacism. Good Patriotic Americans are they?

This, America, is the DemoCRAP Party Platform at work (because you can’t spell “CRAP” without “RAP”). Just a small sampling of the drug-induced hedonistic socialist insanity that’s to come under a possibly nightmarishly horrifying HITLERY Clinton Administration.

By Sweet Lorraine

October 31, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Edwards criticized Hillary for doubletalk. How dare he? HOW DARE HE?

Rush criticized the entire democratic field as too liberal. How dare he? HOW DARE HE?

Osama threatens american citizens who dont convert to Islam. How dare he? HOW DARE HE?

Aminejinidad is trying to get nuclear weapons. How dare he? HOW DARE HE?

The French President is divorcing his wife after pledging his love to her during his election campaign. How dare he? HOW DARE HE?

How does anyone dare to say anything anymore? How dare they? HOW DARE THEY?

I ASKED HOW ANYONE DARED!!!

By BOMB IRAN NOW!!!!

October 31, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

The DemoCRAT Party: Because you can’t spell “CRAT” without “RAT”.

The TRUTH is RID X for the common DemocRAT.

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS October 31, 2007 8:19 AM How dumb is it to think I’m RWNJIFG? Whom I admire greatly. He does a great job. But y’all know (ok the bright ones know) my scibblings have nowhere near the eloquence of RWNJIFG. But Duh, being the voice of the many in his head, just can’t see.}}}}

Who said anything about that POS RWNJIFG?

I know that you are a different POS than RWNJIFG, but you are also that POS RE:

{{{{By Luckoduh October 31, 2007 8:08 AM RE’s, er, IN THE NEWS’s candidate:}}}}

Can’t you read, dumbas-s?

I guess I shouldn’t expect very much from some moron that zooms through the Huffington Post cutting and pasting everything in it, without having an commentary to add.

The very premise is ignorant to the bone, if people wanted a recap of the news wouldn’t they just go to the Huffington Post itself?

It just shows you what blooming idiots these liberals really are.

By BOMB IRAN NOW!!!!

October 31, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

So IN THE PUKE is also LEFT WING HAND-WACK-BLOW JOB IN FULL DEMENTIA…makes perfect sense which means that they and the other moonbat escapees have no sense.

By Monica Blewbillski

October 31, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

SAME SH1T, DIFFERENT DAY

By BOMB IRAN NOW!!!!

October 31, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

The DemocRAT Party Platform: UFOs, Amnesty for illegals and lying socialist scumbags.

By Anonymous

October 31, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

Ah, it’s always good to have the right-wingers come here and display their superior intellect and maturity for the betterment of us silly liberals.

Good show, gentlemen! We’re all dazzled by your display. Now climb back in your playpens and go nite-nite.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 31, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Good toon, ML

The only thing I would change is instead of Iowa, make it the entire USA.

One whole year of election coverage relentlessy rammed down our throats, both on the news shows and paid commercials by the candidates is going to get SOOOOOOOOOOOOO old by Nov, 2008.

Let’s make the election like American Idol. Start with all the candidates and let’s vote them off one by one until we have a winner.

This way we have 1 winner and 300,000,000 losers.

By @@

October 31, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Spanky, “Your” Gang and a wild boar ml?

Well done ml.

By @@

October 31, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Whoopsee! Take out an ml. One’s enough.

IHB

By Dusty

October 31, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Well, whatdoyaknow? I think Luckovich’s cartoon is kinda cute. That’s as close as Lucko has ever come to drawing Democrats. Strange, though, none are in cheerleader outfits or look like monkeys.

Now, if Luckovich had put himself in the middle of that sofa, we could be all inclusive with the “wearing out the welcome”bit. And a little flying saucer over Kicinich might have added a some zip.

But, not bad for having ONE day relief from BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome). You’re improving, Lucko. Or, at least, recognizing that Democrats are really tiresome.

By Reagan's Take on Neo-Conservatives

October 31, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Geez, the libs “discovered” that you have to retire from the military with at least 20 years service to get lifetime “care” from the Veteran’s Administration, like any normal, non pinko person would make that a goal.

Too bad the neo-conservatives haven’t “discovered” that any service memeber sustaining an injury/illness associated with their service DOES get free lifetime medical care associated with that injury/illness regardless of the amount of time they ever spend in service.

I worked alongside a guy who was pulling down mid six figures and still drawing a disablility check plus receiving VA medical care because he had an appendectomy 2 weeks after entering basic training during WW2. He was discharged after surgery and received the benefits until he died 3 years ago.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, ‘The trouble with our NEO-CONSERVATIVE friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.’

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Reagan’s Take on Neo-Conservatives October 31, 2007 9:32 AM Too bad the neo-conservatives haven’t “discovered” that any service memeber sustaining an injury/illness associated with their service DOES get free lifetime medical care associated with that injury/illness regardless of the amount of time they ever spend in service.}}}}

Dumbas-s: The article said that “some veterans DO NOT receive care.”

I said, duh, no sh=it.

Where are you coming from now, with this stupid moron garbage?

Why do you feel the need to pipe in with your idiocy?

What even in the F does this mean?: “Reagan’s Take on Neo-Conservatives”

Are you the columnist for the Urinal that wrote this article and are you personally insulted by my criticism of your weak, degenerate mind?

Do you like the sound of your own voice, no matter how insane you appear to other people?

Why don’t you go play tag on 285?

You’re it, clown.

By Paying the Bills

October 31, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AP) — With oil prices soaring and the housing market sinking, the Federal Reserve is likely to combat the economic turmoil with more interest rate cuts.

The Fed struggles to stave off the BUSH RECESSION for another few months.

Republicans are betting that they can delay the inevitable until after the 2008 election. I wouldn’t take that bet with 1,000 to 1 odds and a 60 point spread.

Irresponsible tax cuts and uncontrolled spending will heat the economy for high short term gains, but sooner or later, someone gets to pay the bill!!!

By Reagan’s Take on Neo-Conservatives

October 31, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Why don’t you go play tag on 285?

I’ll meet you there. If I’m late go ahead and start without me.

By jacksonwolff

October 31, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Zellduh must not have take her fiber this morning.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 31, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Jacksonwolff:

Are you from Jackson, GA?

By Goldie

October 31, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Once again, great caricatures with today’s toon, Lucko!

We can’t really blame the candidates themselves for the way our campaigns are run in America these days. They have to spend so much time with fund-raising, and instead of going around all the states to campaign, every 4 years we have to go thru the same ordeal of watching them all spend most of their time in Iowa and NH. We could start to make some changes in this process if we changed our system to public campaign financing, and instead of Iowa and NH starting first with their primary, why not have 1 single primary in all the states at the same time? Tally up who wins in each state on the same day, and see who comes out ahead! Lots o’ time saved, lots o’ less aggravation for voting Americans!

By No Excuse At All

October 31, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Democrats are debating whether to approve up to $70 billion more for Iraq and Afghanistan, only a down payment on President Bush’s $196 billion war spending request but enough to keep the wars afloat for several more months. Such a move would satisfy party members who want to spare the Pentagon from a painful budget dance and show support for the troops as Congress considers its next major step on Iraq.

Democrats work in a bipartisan manner to protect the interests of America and her troops, even if it is unpopular with their base.

WASHINGTON - President Bush told Republican lawmakers on Tuesday he will not agree to legislation expanding children’s health insurance if it includes a tobacco tax increase, a decision that virtually ensures a renewed veto struggle with the Democratic-controlled Congress. The president also suggested he would not be willing to sign other types of tax increases that Democrats have attached to major legislation, including an energy bill, according to numerous officials who attended a closed-door meeting at the White House.

While Republicans have NO ability to compromise or act in a bipartisan manner to insure the welfare of american children, our troops, our energy needs, or anything else.

No wonder REPUBLICANS got NOTHING done during the time that they had control of the Presidency, the Legislature, and the Supreme Court.

At least the Democrats have the excuse of veto immpediments from a hostile administration and opposition party co-legislators. Republicans have ‘NO EXCUSE AT ALL’ for their FAILURE to reign in their big, Big, BIG government spending when they had TOTAL control over government.

By getalife

October 31, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Biden: “…And the irony is, Rudy Giuliani, probably the most under qualified person since George Bush to seek the presidency, is here - talking about any of the people here. Rudy Giuliani. I mean think about it, Rudy Giuliani, there’s only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun and a verb and 9/11 and I mean, there’s nothing else. There’s nothing else.”

Biden won the debate last night. He said the warmongering on Iran has raised oil prices and the policy in the ME will continue to make you pay at the pump.

The irony is Iran gets more billions.

Geez.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

October 31, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

today is my favorite day halloween rules.

By Two Faced

October 31, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Exterior Side of George Bush’s Face- ‘Democrats won’t send me any funding bills.’

Interior Side of George Bush’s Face- ‘If Democrats send me a funding bill I will veto it.’

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

BREAKING: Karen Hughes resigns. Karen Hughes, one of President Bush’s longest-serving advisers, is stepping down from her position at the State Department as Under Secretary of Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs. Before taking the job at State, Hughes was a Counselor to the President and played an integral role in his 2000 campaign. MSNBC reports: President Bush had asked Karen Hughes to go to the State Department and help sell America’s ideas about democracy and the war on terror around the world. Polls show that there has been no improvement in the way the world views the United States since Hughes took over. Now it appears she’s resigning.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Bush Iraq Request Includes Billions In Non-War Spending

What’s good for the goose,

Oh hell, just nuke the freakin’ gander!

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

[Sing it, Dubya

There’s a new birthday card on the market showing President Bush, white earphones in his ears, showing off a new IPod — or as this pretend presidential gadget is called, an “I-Pres.”

Among the selections on the playlist: “Iraq Around the Clock,” “Knockin’ on Iran’s Door,” “Oil Fields Forever,” and our favorite: “Cheney’s Got a Gun.”

By getalife

October 31, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

They will keep beating the war drum on Iran to get to $100 a barrel.

For the Holidays you will give a tank of gas to your family.

Nice going wingnuts.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two Senators on Friday called for a congressional hearing to investigate reports that phone and cable companies are unfairly stifling communications over the Internet and on cell phones. Sens. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., and Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, said the incidents involving several companies, including Comcast Corp., Verizon Wireless and AT&T Inc., have raised serious concerns over the companies‘“power to discriminate against content.”

By Bosch

October 31, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Happy Halloween!

I agree with John in Tampa, they have worn out their welcome already everywhere, not just Iowa. I also agree that we should just make this like American Idol, after all, more people vote for that than for President.

We could ask them to sing, dance, and discuss the issues, hell, it would be like the Miss America pageant.

Oh just kidding.

Happy Halloween again! BOOOOOOO!!!!!

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

By No Excuse At All 10:27 AM

The problem we have with being “bipartisan” with Dem’s is they ask for MASSIVE increases in government spending and whine like little children if you only agree to smaller increases. And to make it worse, they outright lie to the American people and call the reduction in the requested increase a “cut” in the program, even though the result is expanded government. Since most of us on the right are smarter than to fall for these silly gimmicks, it clogs the whole process. SCHIP is a perfect example. You poeple actually say Bush is throwing the poor children off the healthcare roles even though he’s trying to give you an increase. IT’A A LIE. NOTHING LESS THAN A TOTAL AND COMPLETE LIE.

As for the R’s not getting anything done when they had control, I think most R voters would agree with you. That is why they got shelled in the last election. It wasn’t the war as you would like for it to be, it was them spending like drunken sailors. In short, most of us are tired of them pandering for votes with other poeples money like democrats.

Bush’s recession??? What economic figures are you looking at?

By FRANKLEEDARLING

October 31, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

I do really like Biden.but my motto is anything but a republican.We cant let republicans destroy our country with their un american policy.How they can keep claiming to be such freedom loving patriots is amazing. all i hear from the cons is HATE HATE HATE america and all it stands for I think China would be a better fit for the cons their policies are much closer to what the cons see as a proper form of goverment.

CONS ARE THE REAL PINKOS. our goverment is divided into sections for a reason. Our forefathers had the intellegence and experience to know if we put all the power into one branch of the govement the results would be harmful to the people and the country.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 31, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Bosch:

U need talent to be Miss America.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The head of the International Monetary Fund, Rodrigo Rato, warned Monday of a potential “abrupt fall” in the US dollar that could roil the global economy.

By getalife

October 31, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Watched Ron Paul on Leno last night .

Talk about cutting spending, he wants a flat tax.

Zero income tax.

Said there will be no pie of your money for the lobbyist to fight over. You keep your money, they waste on the empire building.

The Sex Pistols played anarchy and dedicated it to Paul.

Great stuff.

By Gonna Love 08

October 31, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Just shut up luckoduh, If this was a Dem president you would be shouting from the mountain tops about how wrong this war is. Why dont you move to Crawford and tend to Dubyas cattle….

By Terry Sciavo

October 31, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

why do you hate poor children so much?

we charge $2,000,000,000 every week on our communist china credit card, yet you would happily ignore uninsured children.

is it mainly the poor children that you hate or do you hate the poor minority children more? or quite possibly the poor children of illegal immigrant minorities get your white mans burden in a froth!

its their fault for being poor i know! if only they would tighten their boot straps and try as hard as you.

may i ask how many liquor stores you had to walk by on your way to school?

Capitalism requires that there be a large underclass at the bottom to support the privileged few at the top of the pyramid.

the underlying theme here is racism. good ole white christian racism…

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Youngster confesses to starting California fire

Damn those BoY Scouts!

Going for their al Qaeda badge!

By FRANKLEEDARLING

October 31, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Bombers are so much cooler than children lets spend our money on that instead.Then lets go to my ranch and play cowboys and indians. I think the Binladens are coming over for a play date.

By getalife

October 31, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

I was shocked, shocked I said, to learn that Dodd wants to legalize weed.

Then the others punted.

Geez.

By Terry Sciavo

October 31, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

republicans have really revealed their true feelings here.

Is it true that your average god-less liberal has more compassion for poor children than your average white christian conservative???

everyone already knows the answer to that.

basic health care for poor children: NO! says bush NO! says the congressional minority

compassionate is the antithesis of conservatism!

mmmmmm…. i wonder if this will come up during the presidential election???

Extra! Extra! republicans hate poor children! read all about it!

no exactly news though, it is common knowledge that what little humanity they have left disappeared about 8 years during the fascist takeover of the republican party.

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 31, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Terry Schiavo - You throw accusations around like confetti and it is just that - garbage. The Republicans are opposing an unnecessary expansion of the SCHIP program because it would include millions of children and adults who are not poor by anyone’s estimation. Your assertion is pure demagoguery. And by the way, liberals prove by their daily lives and their actions that they do not give one whit about the poor and those who are less fortunate. Conservatives give much more of their own money to charities than do liberals. Google it and you will see. Liberals just think that the ‘government must take care of everyone.’ That is an easy thing to say, but if your truly believe that people are in need, why don’t you go and help those people out yourself and encourage others to do so as well rather than just whining about it? You remind me of that Royal Bank of Scotland commercial where the guy is choking to death and his friends are talking about what to do. The stranger comes up and performs the Heimlich manoeuvre.

By the way, the term fascist applies much more to the virulent anti-Semites and Israeli haters on the left than it could possibly apply to any mainstream Republican. You completely lose any valid arguments by your vitriol and hyperbole. You’re not just knee-jerk, you are a big jerk!

By FRANKLEEDARLING

October 31, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

heres a bumper sticker idea

LIBERAL=LIBERATED=LIBERTY

By FRANKLEEDARLING

October 31, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

heres a bumper sticker idea

LIBERAL=LIBERATED=LIBERTY

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

By Terry Sciavo 11:19 AM

I think luckovichisaheadcase pretty much summed it up there!!

You’re constant whining of “it’s for the poor children”, “it’s for the elderly”, “it’s for those less fortunate” is old already. You want to pay for this group today, a few more tomorrow, and then add some next year until we have socialism covered 100%. But as pointed out above, you’re only ever generous with other people’s money. I’ll bet nearly every one of these programs would dry up if the libs like you whining about it were expected to fully fund it. It’s always a great idea when “those rich people” have to pay for it. After all, they’re only rich because they took advantage of (ie, they cheated) those poor helpless less fortunate people out of their money. Please……

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

By Terry Sciavo 11:19 AM

I think luckovichisaheadcase pretty much summed it up there!!

You’re constant whining of “it’s for the poor children”, “it’s for the elderly”, “it’s for those less fortunate” is old already. You want to pay for this group today, a few more tomorrow, and then add some next year until we have socialism covered 100%. But as pointed out above, you’re only ever generous with other people’s money. I’ll bet nearly every one of these programs would dry up if the libs like you whining about it were expected to fully fund it. It’s always a great idea when “those rich people” have to pay for it. After all, they’re only rich because they took advantage of (ie, they cheated) those poor helpless less fortunate people out of their money. Please……

By Truthman

October 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

George Bush and his cronies as terrorists in the mold of the French Revolution’s Jacobins:

Read this and see where Karl Rove and “Dick” Cheney got their ideas…SCARY!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/opinion/28furstenberg.html?ex=1194408000&en=9e9ef0e67f002f30&ei=5070&emc=eta1

By Truthman

October 31, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

The Repugs on this blog remind me of the money-changers their Savior threw out of the Temple.

How can they call themselves “Christians” when their love of money is overriding their love of their fellow man?

Seems I remember something about the a camel and the eye of a needle?

By Old Physics Teacher

October 31, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

“Take America back from the gluttons?????”

Have I missed something here??? Funny, I thought the Republicans have had control of all branches of government and have run up a national debt second to no one in the history of the world for the last 6 years.

I guess I just live in a different universe where decisions have consequences.

By Terry Sciavo

October 31, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

luckovichisaheadcase

you people froth at the mouth to think that basic primary care is a right.

it just hurts you that ANYONE should receive any kind of gov’t assistance anywhere.

You can’t believe that a majority of americans believe that our countries safety net isn’t big enough.

In your mind, a child dying from leukemia because it wasn’t caught early is a PLUS…

Preventative health care? for poor children? no way, lets spend another $500 Billion on an IRAN war (and send those poor kids to fight it!)

you are disgusting.

i am asking you how it feels to be a heartless monster devoid of compassion for your fellow man?

your party has spoken loud and clear. Not just with SCHIP but for the last 100 years…

the poor, minorities, women, non-christians, the less fortunate are the untouchables and i realize these people mean nothing to you. the fact that you aren’t wanting for

By mm

October 31, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

The wingnuts don’t want any of their tax money used for social programs in the US. They whine and snarl.

But has onyone ever heard any complaints from the wingnuts concerning the tax money being sent overseas for foreign government bribes in the name of aid.

Nope, not one peep.

Wingnuts hate Americans and can’t keep their nose out of other countries business.

By Pot and Kettle

October 31, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Luckoheadcase to Terry,

*You throw accusations around like confetti*

*your assertion is pure demagoguery**

Pot calling the kettle black?

By the way, trickle down economics doesn’t count as giving to charity.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

White House says Bush plans administrative orders to govern, avoiding Congress

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

White House withholds 600 pages of Abramoff docs. Today, House Oversight Committee chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) wrote to White House Counsel Fred Fielding and requested that the administration hand over more than 600 pages of documents relating to the White House’s activities with fallen lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Cheney repeatedly rejected proposals ‘to help the poor, sick.’ In his new book, President Bush’s controversial former speechwriter Michael Gerson sharply criticizes the office of Vice President Cheney and his misplaced priorities

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

The 50 Year Strategy: A New Progressive Era…………………………….Today’s progressives face a political opportunity as great as any seen since. The election of 2006 may well have marked the end of the conservative ascendancy that began with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. George W. Bush now has the potential to do what Herbert Hoover did in the 1920s—tarnish his party’s brand for a generation or more](http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/11/the-50-year-strategy.html)

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

What I Know (and What I Don’t)

By the name is SCHIAVO Terry

October 31, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

In the last 100 years we’ve had 7 dem presidents and the poor are still with us.

Maybe you can explain why Terry.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Try Try again

The 50 Year Strategy: A New Progressive Era…………………………….Today’s progressives face a political opportunity as great as any seen since. The election of 2006 may well have marked the end of the conservative ascendancy that began with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. George W. Bush now has the potential to do what Herbert Hoover did in the 1920s—tarnish his party’s brand for a generation or more

By The Apocalypse

October 31, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

RE,

Don’t you think this would be a good time to enjoy the beach?

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

SOTU: Poverty Has Worsened Under Bush

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Reducing Poverty: Which Party Does Better? ……Remarkably, by every measure of economic health and government efficiency, the analyses show that Democratic administrations, on average, outperform Republican administrations.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

The Bush Record: More Poverty, More Uninsured

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Old Physics Teacher October 31, 2007 12:38 PM “Take America back from the gluttons?????” Have I missed something here??? Funny, I thought the Republicans have had control of all branches of government and have run up a national debt second to no one in the history of the world for the last 6 years.}}}}

What is this, show us your public school education pride day?:

{{{{Johnstown’s good fortune has come at the expense of taxpayers everywhere else. Defense contractors have found that if they open an office here and hire the right lobbyist, they can get lucrative, no-bid contracts. Over the past decade, Concurrent Technologies Corp., a defense-research firm that employs 800 here, got hundreds of millions of dollars thanks to Rep. Murtha despite poor reviews by Pentagon auditors. The National Drug Intelligence Center, with 300 workers, got $509 million, though the White House has tried for years to shut it down as wasteful and unnecessary. Another beneficiary: MTS Technologies, run by a man who got his start some 40 years ago shining shoes at Mr. Murtha’s Johnstown Minute Car Wash.}}}}

{{{{A review by The Wall Street Journal of dozens of such contracts funded by Mr. Murtha’s committee shows that many weren’t sought by the military or federal agencies they were intended to benefit. Some were inefficient or mismanaged, according to interviews, public records and previously unpublished Pentagon audits. One Murtha-backed firm, ProLogic Inc., is under federal investigation for allegedly diverting public funds to develop commercial software, people close to the case say. The company denies wrongdoing and is in line to get millions of dollars more in the pending defense bill…In addition to using taxpayer money to build a local defense industry, Mr. Murtha has funded by legislative fiat miles of new roads, water projects, medical facilities and federal offices for his district. He even brought a Marine attack-helicopter squadron here; it’s next to the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport. Mr. Murtha has steered at least $600 million in earmarks to his district in the past four years, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan Washington group. The nonprofit group estimates he’s sent $2 billion or more to the district since joining the appropriations committee.}}}}

Oink, oink.

By Pot and Kettle

October 31, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

{{{In the last 100 years we’ve had 7 dem presidents and the poor are still with us.

Maybe you can explain why Terry.}}}

CAPITALISM

Poverty is a by-product of capitalism, moron.

Want less poor people? Switch to socialism.

Insist on capitalism? Expect poor people - or should we just let them all starve to death? Or beg for food on the street?

Or should we have capitalism with a little bit of socialism mixed in?

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 12:27 PM

Before you start quoting what the Bible says and doesn’t say, you should try reading it. You left wing, non Christian, fanatics always like to throw the “Jesus wouldn’t be happy with you” garbage out there with a verse or two taken completely out of context. You expose yourselves as someone who has never read the Bible every time you do that. It doens’t work.

Why don’t you attempt explaining what the camel/needle analogy means for us? Hint, you might start by finding it in the Bible.

Pot and Kettle, to your “trickle down economics” comment, as you were instructed to do, go look up the statistics of who gives more money to charity. Let us all know what you find.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

“This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base.” George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

By Truthman 12:27 PM

Before you start quoting what the Bible says and doesn’t say, you should try reading it. You left wing, non Christian, fanatics always like to throw the “Jesus wouldn’t be happy with you” garbage out there with a verse or two taken completely out of context. You expose yourselves as someone who has never read the Bible every time you do that. It doens’t work.

Why don’t you attempt explaining what the camel/needle analogy means for us? Hint, you might start by finding it in the Bible.

Pot and Kettle, to your “trickle down economics” comment, as you were instructed to do, go look up the statistics of who gives more money to charity. Let us all know what you find.

By The Apocalypse

October 31, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

Don’t you think should be on the beach right now? Heh,heh.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Who says I aint?

Lap top, Corona and a sea breeze!

Gotta Love America!

A pack o Lips,

Don’t you think you should be in confession right now? Praise the Lord!

By The Apocalypse

October 31, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

I’ll do that when hurricane Noel gets to you.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Giuliani Cites Faulty ‘Facts’ From Right-Wing Magazine To Slam ‘Socialized Medcine’

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Rice/State Dept have now jeopardized entire Blackwater investigation

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

On October 20 and 21st, I attended the Value Voters Summit, a massive gathering hosted by the Colorado-based Christian right mega-ministry, Focus on the Family, and its Washington lobbying arm, the Family Research Council. With the pro-choice Rudy Giuliani leading in the race for the Republican nomination and the threat of another Clinton presidency looming, the stakes for the Christian right were high.

By Another Mission Accomplished

October 31, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

The horrible discovery in Diyala province Monday was disturbing even by the standards of Iraq’s running sectarian violence. Iraqi police said they found 20 decapitated bodies dumped near a police station west of Baquba, the capital of Diyala province. That same day a suicide bomber on a bicycle careened into a Baquba police station, killing 29. The violence was of course nothing new, especially for the Baquba area, which remains the most troubled region in Iraq outside Baghdad. But the bloodshed showed how the success of the surge of U.S. forces in Baghdad and Anbar Province nine months on has perhaps gone as far as it can toward controlling Iraq’s violence.

The prognosis for Iraq, barring a dynamic transformation on the part of the Iraqi government very soon, is grimly apparent. As U.S. forces lessen their presence in the coming months, killings of the kind seen Monday in Diyala will persist there and most likely spread to areas calmed by the increase of U.S. forces. Rising Shi’ite militia unrest in southern Iraq will go on unchecked, leaving the fate of Iraq’s richest and most populous territory uncertain. Recently subdued Anbar Province will operate as a kind of Sunni semi-independent emirate, barring any meaningful administration from a central government, much as the northern Kurdish territory already does. And Baghdad will be on edge, watching for signs that the relative calm in the city may be giving way to another wave of violence.

So the surge has shot its’ wad and the violence and secterian killings in Iraq are returning once again.

Another ‘MISSION ACCOMPLISHED’ for the ‘just a little more time’ crowd!!!

By Gary

October 31, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

**WHY NO VOTING RESULTS ANY MORE?!

By Sweet Lorraine

October 31, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Gee, did Iraqis devolve into tribal groups again? Who woulda thunk it?

“Duh. I didn’t know nuthin bout no tribes and sectarian divisions. This is totally weird, and not my fault, duh.”

(The McRoves latest spin).

It’s amazing how I predicted all of this in Feb. 02. THen the think tanks picked it up, but squashed it. Then the tribes themselves read my blogs and said, “You know something? Analchord is RIGHT! We do have 10K year old outhouses. We have tribal stuff that goes way back and all up into china and everything. We should start gang warfare like it’s eastcoast/westcoast USA or something. I know, I’ll weld this blasting cap to an Iphone, like this, you see, and then I’ll stick it into some C4, like this, you see, and …… BOOM! ” (poor ahmed never had a chance)

By WNVRAM

October 31, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Gary, early this morning the voting results showed 96+% YES 3+% NO.

The dems were defeated before they left the paddock.

By Love Us to Death

October 31, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - The U.S. military has started giving more intelligence — “lots of intelligence” — to Turkey to help it against rebels staging cross-border attacks from their hiding places in neighboring Iraq, the Pentagon said Wednesday.

Anybody wanna bet that Iraqi Kurds are gonna love us to death for this one?

Now the old ‘little more’ timers are alienating the one group of Iraqis who were ever supportive of King George’s ‘Great Iraqi Welfare Society’.

Brother can you spare a few trillion bucks?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

October 31, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

-=-

Ohhh Noooo — Saddam was gassing the Kurds —

We musn’t allow that! —

Especially when we can help kill them behind the scenes with FAR better technology!….

“GOP - Killing through better technology!”

Cheers’

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Look at the liberal goonies here, posting fake, already disclaimed stories:

{{{{By Another POS PINKO October 31, 2007 2:03 PM The horrible discovery in Diyala province Monday was disturbing even by the standards of Iraq’s running sectarian violence. Iraqi police said they found 20 decapitated bodies dumped near a police station west of Baquba, the capital of Diyala province.}}}}

I’m sorry to rain on your little pervert parade but:

{{{{Meanwhile, Iraqi police denied earlier reports that 20 headless bodies had been found dumped near Baquba.}}}}

Oh, and by the way:

{{{{Iraqi troops have rescued eight members of a group of 11 tribal leaders abducted in Baghdad on Sunday, the Iraqi defence ministry has said.}}}}

Notice how the Atlanta Urinal didn’t report this good news?

Good news for America, I should say.

By Georgia 74

October 31, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Bush is about to give us another first,$4.00 a gallon gas, I hope all of you wingnuts are proud. I’m glad I can afford it, I hope some you right wing idiots can’t.

By Say It Ain't So

October 31, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Well georgie girl (2:37

IF it comes to $4.00 a gallon, which I doubt will happen, it’s still better than when wimpy carter was in charge and you could not find a gallon of gas at any price.

The REALLY sad part of the upcoming elections, is that out of the millions of people in this country, these are the best candidates that both sides could come up with. Neither side has put up anyone that is worthy of a vote!

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 31, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

I could never run for any office with my past. Hell, CNN would be doing specials on my background. It has been fun though.

The media (not the voters) demand that candidates have a clean past and that is tough. That is why we are saddled with the people we have to choose from.

Something about casting stones here.

By Bosch

October 31, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Say It Ain’t So,

For once, I can agree with you about something (the pool of candidates). There are a couple of candidates that I would vote for, but there’s no way they’ll win the nomination, it’s whoever raises the most money wins and I really hate that.

It seems to me that these days the candidate who wins basically buys the seat.

I think that out of the many potentially good candidates that could run, many won’t because they know they’ll be put under a microscope and who wants that? Who wants to put their families through that?

By getalife

October 31, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

“Hillary Wins Big AFSCME Endorsement:

This is no time to take chances. We need someone who knows how to fight and knows how to win. Sisters and Brothers, Senator Clinton is a seasoned fighter. Believe me, she knows how to fight and she knows how to win. Some of you may have seen last night’s debate.

Six guys against Hillary.

I’d call that a fair fight.

This is one strong woman.

This is the Democrat with the strength and experience to make change happen.

This is the Democrat with the strength and experience who will always stand up for working Americans.

This is the Democrat with the strength and experience to take on the Republicans in the fall.

This is the Democrat who can win the White House in 2008”

Yes spew,

The gop are the creators of high gas prices and all the problems today.

Your candidates do not have the brains of the Clintons.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

After reading TIME Magazine’s depressing report this morning I followed up with MNF-Iraq and again spoke with Maj. Winfield Danielson. Major Danielson told me that they had not received any word from Iraqi authorities that this event took place. (This is two days after the bodies were supposedly discovered.) Major Danielson also explained that if there was a record of this event that MNF-I would have seen the report. They have not seen any follow up report on this incident. There is no evidence of this event. There is no official report on this event. There are no photos of this event.// TIME magazine says “20 decapitated bodies” were found near Baquba. Prove it.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Poor Mark Kukis, Time writer in Baghdad. He has a deadline to get his copy in so Time can kill a few hundred thousand trees spreading lies and defeatism. But he catches a lucky break when the news of 20 lovely decapitated bodies comes in. Oh Bliss, his editor will love this and it ties in with the overall Time stylebook requirement that any positive accomplishments in Iraq, must be offset by 4 times as many reports on bad news, real or fake but accurate. “Just follow the narrative son, you’ll be fine.”

{{{{{That would be horrible if it had actually happened, you maroon. Just another terrorist press release printed in full and given the MSM seal of approval.}}}}}

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

ITN, great link at 12:59!

And isn’t this why so many of us are now so politically engaged?

We all have the power (and IMHO the duty) to do our best to continually expose this neo-con legacy for the total disaster that it truly is and more importantly to ensure that it meets a timely demise.

And the fact that the angrier-than-ever neocons themselves have assisted so much in turning mainstream America off to their awful agenda and arrogant incompetence, is just icing on the cake.

And for the benefit of the ostriches, here is more VERY interesting info from that article which supports my theory that unless the GOP can reinvent itself as a party of sanity and vision, they may well again be decades on the outside looking in.

{A massive trend transforming politics is the changing composition of the electorate. The emergence of the millennial generation, the boomer babies and young immigrants born from 1978 to 1996, is not well known.}

{They number approximately 80 million, 3 million more than their parents’ generation, and we should expect to see them transform society, culture, media, and politics just as profoundly. They are the most diverse American generation ever, with nearly 40% from minority groups; chances are that within their lifetime, the term “majority” will become almost meaningless when applied to race.}

Already, indications are that this generation is politically engaged, votes in high numbers, and leans overwhelmingly Democratic. In 2004, people age 29 and under would have given Kerry a landslide of 372 electoral votes had they been the only ones voting. In the 2006 congressional election, that same age group went for Democrats over Republicans by 22%—an almost unheard-of margin. Conventional wisdom has it that if a generation votes for one party in three consecutive elections, it tends to stay with that party for life. If that’s true, the stakes are high for 2008.}

{But the millennials’ impact will show up beyond the ballot box. Polling data indicate that they are unusually civic minded (they volunteer at the highest level recorded for youths in 40 years, according to one study) and hold a wide range of progressive values: Large numbers of them are concerned with the environment, support gay marriage, prefer a multilateral foreign policy, and even believe in government again. (63% think government should do more to solve the nation’s pro

By mm

October 31, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Notice how none of the “libs” on this blog cried like a baby today because the cartoon was making fun of democrats.

Unlike the whiny snot nosed crybaby wingnuts who cry foul every day because ML has made fun of their hero Supertard.

Gee, it’s good to see there are actually some mature adults on this blog. Strange that they are all “libs”.

Bwa.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Good idea Blowhard, /sarc

Let’s restrict the vote to kids that don’t know any better yet. What rag was stupid enough to print that lunacy?

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife October 31, 2007 3:19 PM This is one strong woman.}}}}

Yeah, right:

{{{{It all crystallized in the final minutes of the debate when Russert asked Clinton about a proposal by New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer to give illegal immigrants drivers licenses. “What Governor Spitzer is trying to do is fill the vacuum left by the failure of this administration to bring about comprehensive immigration reform,” she said.}}}}

{{{{When Dodd said he opposed the proposal, Clinton interjected, “Well, I just want to add, I did not say that it should be done, but I certainly recognize why Governor Spitzer is trying to do…”}}}}

{{{{Dodd had heard enough and interrupted her. “No, no, no. You said, you said ‘yes,’” he said.}}}}

{{{{“No, I didn’t, Chris,” Clinton replied with a tone of exasperation.}}}}

{{{{Edwards quickly jumped in, accusing Clinton of trying to have it both ways. “This is a real issue for the country,” he said. “I mean, America is looking for a president who will say the same thing, who will be consistent, who will be straight with them. Because what we’ve had for seven years is double-talk from Bush and from Cheney, and I think America deserves for us to be straight.”}}}}

{{{{Obama said he couldn’t tell whether Clinton was for or against the Spitzer proposal. “I do think that is important. One of the things that we have to do in this country is to be honest about the challenges that we face.”}}}}

{{{{This was not the first debate in which Clinton came under post-game criticism for refusing to answer questions. That’s why what happened at the end of the debate was so telling. It helped tie a bow around the entire evening and allowed her opponents to leave feeling emboldened.-Washington Post}}}}

This is going to be easy.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

By getalife 3:19 PM {{{This is the Democrat with the strength and experience who will always stand up for working Americans.}}}

Please share with us what experience Hillary has that qualifies her to run this great nation….

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife October 31, 2007 3:19 PM Six guys against Hillary.}}}}

You mean six light weights against Shrillary, right?

One of them that needs to be institutionalized, another is a Ku Klux Klanner in the truest sense of the word, the others have been told not to speak freely, so who knows what’s on their minds.

Edward’s wife has the brains and balls in that family.

And they reduced The Pig to a babbling, clueless idiot, wishing “she” could throw a lamp at someone.

What would six foreign heads of state do to “her?”

The very first time they even tried, hahahaha.

This is going to be easy.

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

John and Bosch, well said.

But up until the maddeningly (is that a word?) misnamed moral majority types gained such undue influence on the GOP’s national scene, I think the nation was really never looking to elect a Christian “saint”.

With JFK for example, we understood that the indiscretions of youth and the allure of women is not necessarily a deal breaker, provided he is a leader in the most important sense of the word.

And it was obvious that this was a man of vision and unquestionable courage who would stand the nation in good stead.

Now that style is much more important than substance, we endure an administration comprised of men with no real intellectually curiosity, a total lack of long term vision, questionable rationality and sketchy qualifications, to say the least, because they toe the line for the religionists and pretend to be morally superior, though they clearly (at least in hindsight for the more reasoned Republicans) lack the real and enormous leadership skills they need in those offices.

By mm

October 31, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

RW,

You vote and you don’t know any better.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

By getalife 3:19 PM {{{This is the Democrat with the strength and experience who will always stand up for working Americans.}}}

Please share with us what experience Hillary has that qualifies her to run this great nation….

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

The Failed Corporate Record of George W. Bush

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

(m)ental (m)idget,

You cut me to quick with your rapier-like wit.

Generally you don’t see comments like your 3:59 much beyond the second grade.

Good for you! Really, GFY!

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Here is an incomplete list of Clinton’s experiences and accomplishments.

Appointed to Board of Legal Services Corporation by President Carter.

Chaired Arkansas Educational Standards Committee.

Co founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.

Served on the Board of the Children’s Defense Fund.

Twice named top 100 most influential lawyers.

Chaired the Task Force on National Health Care Reform (failed but learned a lot), 1993-1994

Spoke at the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in China for women’s rights, 1995.

Helped create the Violence Against Women Office in the DOJ, 1995.

Worked with Kennedy to push through legislation for the Children’s Healthcare Insurance Program ($24 billion 10-year program), 1997

Chaired and wrote the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, which was signed into Public Law.

Founded Save America’s Treasures, 1998

Initiated Millennium Project, 1999

Chaired the Foster Care Independence Act of 1999, which was signed into Public Law.

Travelled to 82 countries as her time as First Lady (most travelled First Lady).

Senator from New York, 2001-present

a. Committee on Budget, 2001-2003 b. Committee on Environment and Public Works, 2001-present c. Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, 2001-present d. Committee on Armed Services, 2003-present e. Special Committee on Aging, 2001-present f. Chairman of Steering and Outreach Committee, 2003-2007 concede g. Vice Chairman of Committee Outreach, 2007-present h. Chairman of Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, 2007-present i. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, 2001-present

MORE TO COME

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

MORE HERE

Worked with Senator Schumer to secure over $21 billion in funding for redevelopment of the World Trade Center, security and health improvements.

Introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005.

Introduced legislation for a national Broadband network to help rural populations.

Cosponsored legislation to expand Healthcare for the National Guard and Reserves.

Pressured the Pentagon to brief the Armed Services Committee on redeployment plans when they refused and questioned her patriotism.

Along with Madeline Albright, founded Vital Voices, 1997.

Worked with Grameen Bank to extablish micro-credit and help economic growth in developing countries.

Helped recover compensation for steelworkers who got radiation poisoning on the job (changed Republican opinions of her in NY).

Helped secure $12 million in funding to track the health of 9/11 workers.

MORE TO COME

By Question for Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Now - a straightforward yes or no question for Luckoduh - this means none of your longwinded batsh-it crazy dittohead BS f-agtalk.

Have you ever tasted a d-ick sweeter than mine, you godd-amn h-omo?

Just answer the question, f-ag. Yes or no.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

New study shows that if you restrict the vote to serial killers that dress as clowns Democrats will win be even larger margins than if you only allow people to vote up until age 29

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

MORE HERE

Bills Passed in the Senate

A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of National Better Hearing and Speech Month, and for other purposes. (107th)

A resolution honoring John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, who lost their lives in the course of duty as firefighters. (107th)

A resolution recognizing the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. (107th)

A bill to designate the United States courthouse located at 40 Centre Street in New York, New York, as the “Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse”. (107th)

A bill to extend the period of availability of unemployment assistance under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act in the case of victims of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. (107th)

A bill to waive certain limitations in the case of use of the emergency fund authorized by section 125 of title 23, United States Code, to pay the costs of projects in response to the attack on the World Trade Center in New York City that occurred on September 11, 2001. (107th)

MORE TO COME

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

A bill to designate the building located at 1 Federal Plaza in New York, New York, as the “James L. Watson United States Courthouse”. (107th)

A bill to authorize assistance for individuals with disabilities in foreign countries, including victims of landmines and other victims of civil strife and warfare, and for other purposes. (107th)

A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 201 Main Street, Lake Placid, New York, as the “John A. “Jack” Shea Post Office Building”. (107th)

A concurrent resolution designating August 7, 2003, as “National Purple Heart Recognition Day”. (108th)

A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. (108th)

A concurrent resolution recognizing and honoring the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death because of his standing as one of the most influential Founding Fathers of the United States. (108th)

A resolution congratulating the Syracuse University Orange men’s lacrosse team on winning the 2004 NCAA Division I men’s lacrosse National Championship. (108th)

A resolution congratulating the Le Moyne College Dolphins men’s lacrosse team on winning the 2004 NCAA Division II men’s lacrosse National Championship. (108th)

A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish a program to assist family caregivers in accessing affordable and high-quality respite care, and for other purposes. (108th)

A bill to establish within the National Park Service the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program, and for other purposes. (108th)

A bill to establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in the State of New York, and for other purposes. (108th)

MORE TO COME

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

To provide for payments to the New York State Uninsured Employers Fund for reimbursement of claims related to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and payments to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for treatment for emergency services personnel and rescue and recovery personnel. (109th)

To prohibit the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security (Transportation Security Administration) from removing any item from the current list of items prohibited from being carried aboard a passenger aircraft. (109th)

To make available from Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide, certain funds may be used for community-based programs that provide mental health and readjustment assistance to members of the National Guard and Reserve and their families on their return from deployment. (109th)

By getalife

October 31, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Right wing Blowhard,

8 years in the WH on the front line battling your pathetic party idiot.

They were screaming wag the dog in a time of war like traitors.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 31, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett:

After 7 years what experience does W have to run this great nation, except into the ground?

I will gladly take Hillary’s unknown over W’s known every time.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

NOW

What are Fred, Rudy and Mitts…..

By Bosch

October 31, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

RB,

Repeat after me because you may as well get used to saying it:

“Madame President”

She’s raising money like a fiend and whoever raises the most money wins. Unfortunately, that is the biggest indicator of who will be president.

Like it or not, that’s what qualifies her the most to be president other than the answer we’ve already given you to this question.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

By mm 3:44 PM

No, mm, you libs haven’t cried like a baby about the 1 cartoon ML draws with your crew out of the last 15 or so he’s drawn bashing R’s, but you sure are whining about everything else.

Bush this, Bush that, stealing food from hungry children, pushing old people down the stairs, racict, homophobic, blah blah blah.

You call that mature?

By Paul

October 31, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

AmVet

You’ve seemed fed up with the religious right for some time now. I’ve opined their star is fading - also, that given the uproar a year or two ago where the religious right lambasted the Bush administration (the wanted our votes but didn’t enact our policies) that their power was more illusory than real.

Dallas Morning News has an editorial “The New Religious Right” - points are it rose as cultural concerns eclipsed economic concerns; conservative Dems gravitated to the Rep fold; upcoming evangelical conservatives blow past the gay/abortion issues and grab onto environmentalism, AIDS and poverty. Says there are opportunities for Dems.

Maybe. But many Dems are so strident against anything Christian, let alone conservative Christian, that that may not be a given. That could provide Rep strategists with openings to entice disaffected Hispanics (over the immigration muck-up) back.

It’s striking - at a time when the most ideological apparent faction of Rep conservatism is waning, or transforming, among the Dems the most liberal ideological extremists are exerting ever more power and influence over the Party. I think one is healthy - and the other is not.

Link: Religious Right Transformation

By getalife

October 31, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

You know what you will get with the Clintons.

Just look back to the 90’s.

Peace and prosperity.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

By mm 3:44 PM

No, mm, you libs haven’t cried like a baby about the 1 cartoon ML draws with your crew out of the last 15 or so he’s drawn bashing R’s, but you sure are whining about everything else.

Bush this, Bush that, stealing food from hungry children, pushing old people down the stairs, racict, homophobic, blah blah blah.

You call that mature?

By Lucckoduh

October 31, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Yes, so very sweet. Sweet and sassy.

Tonight. Mr. Manly Man. Same Place

By Bosch

October 31, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

ITN,

I wonder what RB will write back? I’m going to write my predictions in my Outlook notes and compare when he writes back.

Yes, any time now.

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

ITN, yet another great link at 4:16.

Did NOT blow off the last year of any military commitments to go stump for some GOP hack

Did NOT get a DUI and have her drivers license suspended

Did NOT bankrupt two oil companies in the oil rich state of Texas yet parlay them into earnings each time

Did not trade away Sammy Sosa and help keep the Texas Rangers in the AL West basement

Did NOT create the worst American foreign policy blunder since Viet Nam

Did NOT create a Presidency with the worst approval ratings in history and soiled America’s image around the world

By Paul

October 31, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

getalife

[They were screaming wag the dog in a time of war like traitors.]

Actually, I believe that phrase (wag the dog) came into vogue during the Clinton Administration, referring to the Kosovo operation to distract from the Lewinsky problems.

The phrase was taken from a film of that name, starring Dustin Hoffman, released in 1997. The storyline involved a military “crisis” in central Europe with innocent civilians and Americans to the rescue to boost Presidential ratings.

That’s two years before the Kosovo campaign.

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction!

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Look at what the dumbas-s liberals think are accomplishments worthy of the presidency:

{{{{By DHIMMI THE NEWS October 31, 2007 4:29 PM A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 201 Main Street, Lake Placid, New York, as the “John A. “Jack” Shea Post Office Building”. (107th)}}}}

Another year and five days, I won’t ever have to hear of that bi-tch again.

Hot damn, I can’t wait.

It’s not even a sure thing that this Pig will make it that far.

Just think, 14 some years of blowing up their as-ses how great Herr Gross is, and “she” could get unseated by Obama, who’s only accomplishment is to be the number one recipient of Chicago Tribune puff pieces.

This is going to be easy.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

October 31, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

-=-

Wow INTN —-!

All those things Hillary actually did for the State of New York during and after the 9-11 crisis is impressive..

So in short she did real work for the people after the disaster, -=where-as=- our current Commander in Chief (of disasters) and lapdog Mayor Barney Google-Annie, were taking photo-ops and family photo album “wish you were here” pictures at ground zero..

Yep —-

Quite a woman —

No wonder every other candidate both Dem and Repug’ want to trash her name — they know she’s the best choice - and most likely to win if they can’t throw enough mud on her to bring her down.

Cheers’

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Bocsh

I bet they (RB,RW,BD,ANDY) being the Good Germans, er, I mean Good Americans they are will provide us with lists of the experience and accomplishments of their favored candidates to encourage intellectual discussion.

NOT!

By Bosch

October 31, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

ITN,

I’m going to overlook that “german” remark :-)

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Sorry, about the name spelling error.

By IN THE NEWS

October 31, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Diplomats ‘upset over forced postings to Iraq.’

In a “contentious” hour-long “town hall meeting” today, several hundred U.S. diplomats “vented anger and frustration Wednesday about the State Department’s decision to force foreign service officers to take jobs in Iraq, with some likening it to a ‘potential death sentence.’” The AP reports on the exchange:

“Incoming is coming in every day, rockets are hitting the Green Zone,” said Jack Crotty, a senior foreign service officer who once worked as a political adviser with NATO forces. […]

“It’s one thing if someone believes in what’s going on over there and volunteers, but it’s another thing to send someone over there on a forced assignment,” Crotty said. “I’m sorry, but basically that’s a potential death sentence and you know it. Who will raise our children if we are dead or seriously wounded?”

“You know that at any other (country) in the world, the embassy would be closed at this point,” Crotty said to loud and sustained applause from the about 300 diplomats who attended the meeting in a large State Department auditorium.

From the AP

Maybe a draft wouldn’t be such a bad idea.

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS October 31, 2007 4:51 PM I bet they (RB,RW,BD,ANDY) being the Good Germans, er, I mean Good Americans they are will provide us with lists of the experience and accomplishments of their favored candidates to encourage intellectual discussion.}}}}

Heh:

{{{{Mayor of New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani}}}}

{{{{In 1993, Rudy became the first Republican elected Mayor of the City of New York in a generation. Campaigning on the slogan “One City, One Standard,” he focused on reducing crime, reforming welfare and improving the quality of life. In 1997, he was re-elected with 57% in a city in which Democrats outnumbered Republicans five to one.}}}}

{{{{Under Mayor Giuliani’s leadership, overall crime was cut by 56%, murder was cut by 66%, and New York City—once considered the crime capital of the country—became the safest large city in America according to the FBI. New York City’s law enforcement strategy has become a model for other cities around the world, particularly the CompStat program, which won the 1996 Innovations in Government Award from the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.}}}}

{{{{When Mayor Giuliani took office, one of every seven New Yorkers was on welfare. Mayor Giuliani implemented the largest and most successful welfare-to-work initiative in the country, turning welfare offices into Job Centers, leading to the reduction of welfare rolls by 640,000, or nearly 60%, to the lowest level since 1966.}}}}

Continued-

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Hi Paul. Long time, no hear from.

Hope you’re well.

You sized my feelings up well with that comment about me being “fed up with the religious right”!

IMHO they have caused enormous political damage to this country.

My feeling is that regarding the issues of abortion, stem cell research, man-induced global warming and on a host of other scientific issues they simply cannot be allowed to have their irrational and reactionary way.

You insist their influence is waning. And perhaps that is true to some small degree and for some very suspect reasons.

But I don’t see it when I look at this GOP slate. For example, three of the 10 candidates did not raise their hands in response to the question do you believe in evolution!

Someone needs to inform these guys that this is the 21st century.

Despite your link to that op ed piece with scare evidence, I see that their platform is hardly changed at all from their recent extremist and entrenched religionist positions.

Whether they are publicly rabid enough or not for the Dobsons and the most extreme is not terribly relevant to me.

The “Christian” Dems are many things but they are not theocrats, though I feel it is a mistake to play up that angle.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 31, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

hey amvet

80’s and sunny today with a nice breeze. i am thinking of going to Clearwater tonight for some Skyline Chili. i love the causeway after dark.

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Continued-

{{{{Mayor Giuliani also took decisive steps to restore fiscal responsibility to New York City, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes while turning an inherited $2.3 billion budget deficit into a multi-billion dollar surplus. These reforms helped lead New York City to an era of broad-based growth, with approximately 423,000 new private sector jobs created in eight years, as business returned to the center of city life. As news of the New York renaissance spread around the nation and the world, tourism grew to record levels. Under Rudy Giuliani’s leadership, New York City became the best-known example of the resurgence of urban America.}}}}

{{{{On September 11th, 2001, America suffered the worst attack in its history. After surviving the fall of the Towers, Mayor Giuliani immediately began leading the recovery of his city as it faced its darkest hour. For his efforts, former first lady Nancy Reagan presented Mayor Giuliani with the Ronald Reagan Presidential Freedom Award, he was knighted by the Queen of England, and named Person of the Year by Time magazine. In 2002, he wrote and published a number one best-seller, Leadership, which has sold over 1 million copies worldwide.}}}}

Real, tangible accomplishments, not sitting on some board or committee.

This is going to be easy.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 31, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

ITN, I was actually quite impressed with your list. Mostly with all the great things she accomplished while first lady. All the programs for children she set up and so forth. Admirable.

You’ve got to be kidding me with her senate record, however. From her record, it’s quite clear if we get into a building naming contest with Al Queada, she’s the man. Have you looked at the list to see what you posted? A bill honoring the lacross champions? Nice, but I think that qualifies her for Team Mom more than President.

After reading the list provided, I agree, she is your best hope to win the white house. I think you should go with Hillary.

I also think she’s your best chance to lose the white house.

Happy Halloween Bloggers!

By TW

October 31, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Rudi having been married to his sister at one time doesn’t bother me nearly as much as his working for the man who called our beloved president ‘The Devil.’ I mean, even Rangel spoke out against Chavez, but Rudi takes his money?????????

Who needs Al Qaeda when you’ve got the Republicans??????????

By Luckoduh

October 31, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet October 31, 2007 5:10 PM But I don’t see it when I look at this GOP slate.}}}}

Does anyone else feel relieved that DimVet doesn’t see anything he likes in the GOP candidates?

This is going to be easy.

By Paul

October 31, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

AmVet

I’ve been well, thanks. Extremely busy, but well.

I didn’t pick up a “scare” piece from the editorial. The Dallas paper’s usually pretty attuned to Hispanic issues.

I’ve often wondered about their real power - which is why I cited the incident from a couple years ago. Real power vs apparent power - then again, having enough apparent power to call the tunes during the primaries (in several states where they comprise a good part of the voters) is enough to make the candidates dance. Same with the Dems and MoveOn and other orgs - they seem to call the tune during the primaries.

I’ll toss this out - a third of the Rep candidates didn’t raise their hands for the evolution question (I dislike “either/or” questions - that’s one of those “is the intent of the question man evolved, or that man was created, yet evolution proceeds so I’ll play it safe and not confuse the base” situations) yet all (?) the Dem candidates went to the Daily Kos convention. Lest anyone insist that’s really mainstream, not extreme…

You know what they say about platforms - usually worth less than the paper they’re printed on.

BTW - How’s AmVet jr doing in basic? About done? When you go to the Bay area for a visit you may want to see if they have visitor quarters open to family members on the post. Barring that, have him see if the lodging people will give him a referral for you to an off-base hotel at the govt contract rate. Never hurts to ask.

By Paul

October 31, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

AmVet

I’ve been well, thanks. Extremely busy, but well.

I didn’t pick up a “scare” piece from the editorial. The Dallas paper’s usually pretty attuned to Hispanic issues.

I’ve often wondered about their real power - which is why I cited the incident from a couple years ago. Real power vs apparent power - then again, having enough apparent power to call the tunes during the primaries (in several states where they comprise a good part of the voters) is enough to make the candidates dance. Same with the Dems and MoveOn and other orgs - they seem to call the tune during the primaries.

I’ll toss this out - a third of the Rep candidates didn’t raise their hands for the evolution question (I dislike “either/or” questions - that’s one of those “is the intent of the question man evolved, or that man was created, yet evolution proceeds so I’ll play it safe and not confuse the base” situations) yet all (?) the Dem candidates went to the Daily Kos convention. Lest anyone insist that’s really mainstream, not extreme…

You know what they say about platforms - usually worth less than the paper they’re printed on.

BTW - How’s AmVet jr doing in basic? About done? When you go to the Bay area for a visit you may want to see if they have visitor quarters open to family members on the post. Barring that, have him see if the lodging people will give him a referral for you to an off-base hotel at the govt contract rate. Never hurts to ask.

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Hi John.

I too loved that drive!

My girlfriend reminded me that it is Little Rug Rat Mooching Night, er, I mean Halloween! (just kidding about the little mooches thing, I would want the pious here to think I was some child hater!)

We have some friends who just go crazy with the outdoor stuff. It is truly a sight to behold and the kids come from all over their very large neighborhood.

So some of us adults, including neighbors, just sit outside in lawn chairs on the driveway, enjoy the show and drink beer or wine and hand out goodies to the little ghouls and goblins.

I can handle it one night a year!

By Sweet Lorraine

October 31, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

I hate halloween. When I answer the door, and a gang of kids yell, “Trick or Treat”. I say, “We hate halloween, so beat it!” and slam the door.

(We’ve never been able to get the smell of rotten eggs off our porch for twenty two year now.)

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

October 31, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

-=-

Dang you John in Tampa —

Normaly this time of year I am taking my trip to St’ Pete and Tampa — Enjoying a nice drink in the Sirata’s hot-tub…eating at Skidders…

But alas — this years schedule messed me up —- They held the convention earlier and at the same time as another event I had to be at in Atlanta.

HOW DARE YOU ! How dare you tell me how nice and warm it is down there right now while I suffer this insipid Atlanta weather.

I use to live in Florida and miss it soooo soooo much….

Enjoy….

Maybe I can make it down in December and visit with friends and family in Orlando and Fort Myers and hit St Pete and Johns in between…

and to add insult to injury you mentioned Skyline chili’… You (word censored)

Cheers’

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

What the hell kind of question is “Do you believe in evolution?”

How about “Do you believe in evolution as the origin of mankind?”

Or

“Do you believe that a species may evolve somewhat over time to adapt to it’s living conditions?”

By getalife

October 31, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

“Instead of striking a strong blow against terrorism, the action [launching cruise missiles at Osama bin Laden] set off a howling debate about Clinton’s motives. The president ordered the action three days after appearing before the grand jury investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair, and Clinton’s critics accused him of using military action to change the subject from the sex-and-perjury scandal — the so-called ‘wag the dog’ strategy.”

Wrong as usual Paul.

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Sweet Lorraine, one of the more interesting things about tonight will be the kids who are obviously too old to be out trick or treating but who do so anyway. I always feel kind of sorry for them.

Another is how some of the precious darlings apparently have never lerarned the words thank you.

Ingrates.

Paul,

Thanks for asking about AmVet Jr. You are a good guy.

Unfortunately he has hit a snag. During one of the initial physical exams they found something possibly “wrong” with his kidney function. (Or was it liver?)

At any rate, he is basically red lined until they give him the thumbs up.

As you can imagine he is incredibly frustrated. But on the other hand, the good news is that he sounds really motivated to get at it.

So I can already sense a big change in him. When I said goodbye the other evening after he called me, I said as I always do, “I love you”. And for the first time that I can remember in a long while, he said it back.

That was pretty cool.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

Yikes! I’m often down in Indian Rocks Beach. I had no idea I was surrounded by so many moonbats when I was there.

By Paul

October 31, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 5:40

[[What the hell kind of question is “Do you believe in evolution?”]]

Given the moderator was Chris Mathews, nonjournalist former aide to Tip O’Neill, I think the answer’s pretty obvious.

getalife 5.44

Why does one exclude the other? So many liberals are so black-and-white, right-or-wrong, pick this or pick that, nothing else, on issues.

Life’s a little more textured than that. As in, sometimes it’s 42 Below, other times it’s Ketel One!

I’m thinkin’ of passing out miniatures for the tricky treaters… or their parental escorts -

By Sweet Lorraine

October 31, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

That picture of bigfoot is not a yeti, it’s Rosie Odonnel.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You can add “Obama speechwriter” to that list of Matthews jobs.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Funny how Clinton also decided that Iraq needed bombing just as the House took up final debate on impeachment. I’m sure you think that wasn’t a “wag the dog” scenario either.

By Paul

October 31, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

AmVet

Hopefully it’s just a bit of dehydration, a kidney stone or some such. If “they” say it requires a discharge - tell him to never take “no” for an answer. If it’s correctable he should be right on track - as long as he’s world-wide deployable, he’ll be okay.

That does sound like a great experience. Guy sounds like he’s pretty sure (at the risk of sounding sexist) what real manhood is all about.

RW

You’re spot on about it being used as a general term signifying using military operations to mask domestic difficulties. The examples you and getalife cite (cruise missiles in the Middle East) are what helped get us where we are today. Rather like having a kid and saying “if you don’t stop that, well, don’t make me tell you again!!! Or I will!!!

I think I’m off for a pizza to get ready for the kids. The pizza’s for me. So’s the beer. Candy for them. Got the Pukin’ Pumpkin all set up by the door. Let the games begin!

Night, all -

By AmVet

October 31, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Actually Paul, just for the sake of accuracy, it was not Chris Matthews who asked the question. You Tube it if you’d like.

And though perhaps the moderator, he does not get to select nor ask all of the questions, as this one came form the results of an on-line poll.

But much more significantly, the questioner, who I didn’t recognize, asked Senator McCain a very straight forward question, “Do you believe in evolution”. He almost immediately answered with a firm yes. And that is one of the things I really like about the guy. Smart, but principled.

No mental masturbation or “spinnastics” like that at 5:40. Some of the strangely paranoid are looking for subversion in everything so it seems.

Then the other three did their thing denying evolution and McCain said he would like to add that he believes in evolution but when he goes to the Grand canyon he sees the hand of God there also.

Good enough for me. The other three clowns are not Presidential material IMHO.

I too am off to inspect the howling horde.

Later, gators!

By getalife

October 31, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

Just admit your wrong Paul.

RW,

With that logic we can say w’s Iran bs to raise gas prices is wag the dog to hide his crimes.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

October 31, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

-=-

Not meaning to scare you out of your whitewashed ivory tower yet again RW, but (ahem) Atlanta area is filled with Democrats too. But I know the Northern arc doesn’t care anything about da’ poor folk south of dem’…

-=-

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That’s the beauty of a term like “wag the dog.” There are so many disparate things a President needs to do that you can always make it look like it was “wag the dog” and conversely a President can always point to reasons it wasn’t.

For that reason the overly defensive position Clinton hides behind claiming the term had him paralyzed is a sure sign that he was in fact “wagging the dog.”

Blowhard,

You cam make reference to spinnastics and cower in fear over typing my name, but facts are facts and the question doesn’t allow for a yes/no answer if the person answering cares to be truthful. It also doesn’t matter which side of the debate you’re on for what I just said to be true.

By Sal

October 31, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Ugly Yeti.

The bigfoot photo is Ugly Yeti.

By Hello my pretties

October 31, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Cyaackle ackle ackle!

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Thomas/Walt/PNAC,

Georgia has a Republican Governor, a Republican Lt. Governor, a Republican Secretary of State, A Republican General Assembly, Two Republican Senators…..

.

BOO!!!