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By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
ANY WONDER WHY THEY CONSIDER MEDIA MATTERS ENEMY NUMBER ONE?
{{Couric admits feeling NBC pressure}}
{{Chris Matthews Says Cheney Pressured MSNBC Brass to Influence Content}}
{{The Education Department paid commentator Armstrong Williams $241,000 to help promote President Bush’s No Child Left Behind law on the air, an arrangement that Williams acknowledged yesterday involved “bad judgment” on his part.}}
{{Documents released by the Agriculture Department show it paid a freelance writer $9,375 in 2003 to “research and write articles for hunting and fishing magazines describing the benefits of NRCS (Natural Resources Conservation Service) programs.”}}
{{In May 2004, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) determined that the Bush administration violated federal law by releasing television “news segments” that favorably depicted a new Medicare law}}
{{ On January 6, the GAO announced that the Bush administration again broke the law by producing similar “news segments” about drug use, saying the segments “constitute covert propaganda” because they did not identify the government as the source of the materials. }} {{James Dale Guckert (born 1957) worked under the pseudonym Jeff Gannon as a White House reporter between 2003 and 2005 , representing the virtual organization Talon News.Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, in which he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered “so friendly it might have been planted.” Gannon then came under public scrutiny, in particular for his lack of a significant journalistic background prior to his work with Talon[2][3] and his alleged involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name Bulldog, he resigned from Talon News on February 8, 2005. }} {{According to a report in the Washington Post, FEMA had instructed its own public relations staff to pose as reporters when no legitimate members of the media arrived in time for a hastily arranged briefing about the California wildfires.}} {{CNN reports that John “Pat” Philbin, the Director of Public Affairs responsible for FEMA’s recent faked news conference, is effectively receiving a promotion. PRNewser was notified by an email which said that Philbin’s new job was an “ama
By Blackadder
October 29, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this
You MUST watch this!!! I’d love to get some feedback.
By reebok
October 29, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this
Let’s see…failed to capture Osama bin Laden - Check! Failed to find WMD in Iraq - Check! Lost control of Afghanistan - Check! Ran up biggest budget deficits in history - Check! 3,900 young Americans dead with no end in sight - check! Mission Accomplished! Guess it’s time to bomb Iran!
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 29, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
To quote Chico Marx,
“There are a lot of irrelevants at the circus!”
By Historian
October 29, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this
The peculiar thing about this poorly drawn cartoon is that Luckovich and the rest of you libs just want to ignore the handwriting on the wall. Churchill was also called a warmonger when he warned that we needed to get out the bud nippers. Think of all of the misery that could have been spared the world had his warnings been heeded. Iran’s president is saying and doing much the same thing as Hitler, but this time in the name of religion rather than ‘racial purity’, except of course in the case of the Jews. He and Hitler are exactly on the same page on that one. Lucko is calling Bush a warmonger because he states the truth. Reagan was also called a warmonger because he did the same. The Soviet Bloc no longer exists. He did not back down. Now is not the time for weakness and vascillation, a la Dummy Carter. If we show strenght and resolve then we are safer. If we do not, then we are doomed to have an even more brutal repeat of the past.
By mountain man
October 29, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
Bush/Cheney, our as#es of evil, won’t stop until they have embroiled the whole world in armed conflict. This is what you get when you elect untreated addicts with messianic complexes to leadership….
My fervent prayer is that our beloved country won’t go down this insane road again during my lifetime.
By Terry Sciavo
October 29, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
IAEA says no active nuke program in Iran
if only our motives weren’t a world empire their opinion would matter to us…
By Blackadder
October 29, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
Watch ZEITGEIST and you’ll realize that “Historian” is mislabeling himself.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this
Hitler Analogy: No Substitute for Serious Thinking on Iran
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
Hitler, Propaganda and Recycling Iraq as Iran
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
Brooks: Bush’s ‘Body Language’ Means He Won’t Attack Iran
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
{{{State Department imposes an Iraq war draft.
“Facing staff shortages in Iraq, the State Department announced Friday that diplomats would have no choice but to accept one-year postings in the hostile environment or face losing their jobs.”}}}}
By RB from Gwinnett
October 29, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this
I didn’t get a chance Friday to respond to you whiny libs attacks on my son and I, but I do feel compelled to respond to our good friend anna’s post.
By anna
October 26, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
{{{The best part of the Republican party, however, is their strong “family values”….hmmmm….if you have such STRONG family values, please explain how your love for bathroom same sex rendevous fits in? Or your solicitation of young boys? I can’t wait until God judges you hypocritical biggots and I hope hell is a giant room full of Hillary Clintons who spit in your lying faces. RB, if you had a point-or anything near a point you infantile, probably self-hating homosexual a*, you wouldn’t feel the need to patronize people in your posts. I guarentee you’ve tapped your foot under a stall at Hartsfield Jackson.}}}
Once again, anna, when challenged with producing FACTS to support your ridiculous claims and being unable to support them, you change the subject and start the name calling attacks. It’s AMAZING how you libs keep labeling the R’s “haters” when it’s you who keeps throwing out all the venom. Next time you feel the urge to toss the “hate” label out there, you might want to look in the mirror first.
Back to the trash heap with you, anna, until you can support your garbage claims with something truthful.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
Examples of Republican hypocrisy on moral values
By Frank
October 29, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Osama Bin Laden reads my blogs! His latest video has veiled threats about putting anthrax in american women’s douchebags if they dont convert. That no-talent hack! He stole my stooge-terror. He stole my bit!
Osama, I will hunt you down, suckah. I have a chance to go to Afghanistan soon, and have access to a dirt bike, and oh, I’ll find you. I can smell a hack 500 miles away. Expect me. Nobody hacks nothing when I’m around.
Moron.
By mountain man
October 29, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Historian (laugh), you would suggest that our current administration is showing “strength and resolve”. How come I’m feeling so unsafe? Could it be that I’m just a little uncomfortable with a madman holding a match and the fuse?
By Frank
October 29, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
Is a female terrorist a veiled threat?
By Jesus
October 29, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Blackadder
October 29, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
What if the Military had disclaimers like Pharma Ads?
By Captain James T. Kirk
October 29, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
Beam me up Scotty. There’s no intelligent life down here.
By RB from Gwinnett
October 29, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Mountain Man… Question for you. Do you believe if we leave Iraq and Afganistan, basically the whole middle east, the people who are trying to kill us over there will leave us alone? We’ll play in our sandbox and they’ll play in theirs. No more bomb attacks on our ships, buildings, cities, etc? Just curious what you think will happen if we get out of there?
By Historian
October 29, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Mountain Man - you are feeling so insecure because you are like the wimps before World War II that were willing to do anything BUT what was actually necessary to avoid war. If your enemy wants war - and the radical Islamists do want war, they have stated that in no uncertain terms - the that is what you will get unless you make that prospect so unpleasant for the enemy they will back down. It is the same as the bully on the playground. Please read Churchill’s World War II history, volume one. Also read William Manchester’s “Winston Churchill - Alone” about his years in the political wilderness. This political exile was largely caused by his persistant warnings about German rearmament. He was ignored until it was TOO LATE. This situation is the same. If you choose to just feel scared and think that we can just talk ourselves out of this situation and let the Iranians have whatever they like then we will be faced with a new and even bloodier holocaust than we did almost seventy years ago. Reagan learned that lesson and the Cold War came to an end peacefully. We must act with resolve, not with wimpering platitudes!
By RB from Gwinnett
October 29, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this
Mountain Man… Question for you. Do you believe if we leave Iraq and Afganistan, basically the whole middle east, the people who are trying to kill us over there will leave us alone? We’ll play in our sandbox and they’ll play in theirs. No more bomb attacks on our ships, buildings, cities, etc? Just curious what you think will happen if we get out of there?
By Mike
October 29, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
Gee, I wish Mikey would ever get outraged enough over Ahmadinejad’s comments to draw a cartoon of him.
Unfortunatley, Ahmadinejad is not a Christian or a conservative, so Mikey will never criticize him for anything.
I winder what it was like back in the day when liberal pundits criticized other countries, in addition to their own. Today’s liberals hate America so much, we may never find out.
By Anonymous
October 29, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
The only problem with America waking up from the Bush nightmare is that the effects will still be with us long after he’s gone.
And if Media Matters is Bush’s #1 enemy, that’s a good indicator that they’re doing what’s best for America! Keep up the good work, MM!
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Fearing Fear Itself ………………………..In America’s darkest hour, Franklin Delano Roosevelt urged the nation not to succumb to “nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror.” But that was then.Today, many of the men who hope to be the next president — including all of the candidates with a significant chance of receiving the Republican nomination — have made unreasoning, unjustified terror the centerpiece of their campaigns………………………….. Mr. Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary and a founding neoconservative, tells us that Iran is the “main center of the Islamofascist ideology against which we have been fighting since 9/11.” The Islamofascists, he tells us, are well on their way toward creating a world “shaped by their will and tailored to their wishes.” Indeed, “Already, some observers are warning that by the end of the 21st century the whole of Europe will be transformed into a place to which they give the name Eurabia.” Do I have to point out that none of this makes a bit of sense?…………………..For one thing, there isn’t actually any such thing as Islamofascism — it’s not an ideology; it’s a figment of the neocon imagination. The term came into vogue only because it was a way for Iraq hawks to gloss over the awkward transition from pursuing Osama bin Laden, who attacked America, to Saddam Hussein, who didn’t. And Iran had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11 — in fact, the Iranian regime was quite helpful to the United States when it went after Al Qaeda and its Taliban allies in Afghanistan………………………….Beyond that, the claim that Iran is on the path to global domination is beyond ludicrous. Yes, the Iranian regime is a nasty piece of work in many ways, and it would be a bad thing if that regime acquired nuclear weapons. But let’s have some perspective, please: we’re talking about a country with roughly the G.D.P. of Connecticut, and a government whose military budget is roughly the same as Sweden’s……………………Just to be clear, Al Qaeda is a real threat, and so is the Iranian nuclear program. But neither of these threats frightens me as much as fear itself — the unreasoning fear that has taken over one of America’s
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Identifying the real “haters of America”
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
Neoconservatives hate liberty as much as they love war
By Anonymous
October 29, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Mike: Great idea—American cartoonists should definitely spend all their time lampooning nutjobs in other countries, who will never see or care about their work.
There’s no reason to make your cartoons relevant to your local audience—heck no!
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
Speaking of irrelevant, the movie about Dhimmi Carter took in a whopping $10,000. at the box office this weekend. It was only shown on seven screens, but didn’t recover even the screening cost per theater much less the movie production cost.
By Frank
October 29, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
A nuclear exchange with an Islamic country and it’s Russian/Chinese allies is a virtual certainty now. It’s only a matter of time. Truman had his Gen. Mac, but he was only one man. Hillary will have millions of the unhinged fringe clamoring for war, the war truman wouldn’t make.
There were better reasons to nuke the chinese in ‘51 than there are reasons now to bomb Iran or invade Iraq.
This middle east war is a war that only a fool would wage and only a lunatic would want.
What’s wrong with peace and quiet? The internet is the equalizer like the colt 45 was the equalizer in the old west, and in the urban party set of the 70’s. Watch out for the bull…….(i meant the schlitz malt liquour bull)
War is easy. Anyone can have war. You simply put your put your ships together, and whoa!
By gc
October 29, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Historian, check out an article by Robert Novak concerning the Reagan administration’s arming of Saddam Hussein entitled “Following Iraq’s Bioweapons Trail”. Recheck the facts of the Iran Contra scandal concerning the Reagan administration’s sale of weapons to Iran, and its open support for drug dealers in Nicaragua. Check the facts for Reagan’s support of Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan.
By Midori
October 29, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
Man oh man,
Anna sure struck a chord :)
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
Here’s part of a review of the movie Blackadder @ 8:13 wants you to watch. I thought that idiot told us he was committing suicide months ago? Perhaps he should try harder insteasd of rotting his mind with garbage like Zietgeist-The Movie.
{{{{{{And what is that worldview, pray tell? Religions in general, and Christianity in particular, are primarily systems of social control. 9/11 was an inside job and the destruction of the WTC twin towers and building 7 were aided by controlled demolition. And finally, International Bankers, through the Federal Reserve and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), control our money and our future, leading to, ta da, the coming One World Government and the microchipping of everyone.}}}}}
{{{{{Exactly how all this fits together is left to the viewer’s imagination or, presumably, the film-maker’s hash pipe. Are those who manipulate Christianity for control purposes in cahoots with the Bankers, and were the Bankers in on the 9/11 caper? Zeitgeist sidesteps such logical questions through the use of the all-purpose term, “the elite,” a shadowy group of rich and powerful men who want nothing more than to enslave humanity and reap block-buster profits through the promotion of wars and financial crises.}}}}}}
Yawn….
By John in Tampa, FLA
October 29, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be cheaper for us just to buy all of the real estate in the Middle East and then raise the property taxes and rents so high the locals are forced to sell out.
This seems to be working inside the perimeter in ATL, why not there?
By Frank
October 29, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
RW, your hate speak has turned into hack speech. Try reading the Unibomber’s manifesto again, and then blog. You need a refresher course. bwa.
By REPOSTER
October 29, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
This post can’t be copied enough. Special thanks go to RB for a great idea. Lets re-post this a few times a day.
{The best part of the Republican party, however, is their strong “family values”….hmmmm….if you have such STRONG family values, please explain how your love for bathroom same sex rendevous fits in? Or your solicitation of young boys? I can’t wait until God judges you hypocritical biggots and I hope hell is a giant room full of Hillary Clintons who spit in your lying faces. RB, if you had a point-or anything near a point you infantile, probably self-hating homosexual a*, you wouldn’t feel the need to patronize people in your posts. I guarentee you’ve tapped your foot under a stall at Hartsfield Jackson.}
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
Polly,
The Uniblogger (AmVet) hasn’t been by today, but I’ll be sure to give his boring prose a shot when he shows up. Thanks for your concern!
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
The doubts, the concerns, the reasons for pause about attorney general nominee Michael Mukasey are coming fast and furious from senators left and right these days.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
{{{{{{By IN THE NEWS October 26, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this——by the way, I KNOW WHO YOU ARE! (all of you) Such fun in weeks to come!}}}}}
Tell us more ITFS
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 312
By Blackadder
October 29, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
There you have it folks. What better endorsement to watch ZEITGEIST than Ricky Wingnut’s right wing “review” and dismissal of it.
Watch it. You won’t regret it.
By Historian
October 29, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
gc - you are confusing apples with organges here, and no one is denying those mistakes. However, we did not show weakness to the Soviet Union under Reagan, only resolve. When we showed weakness over Vietnam and Carter showed weakness at all times, it only emboldened our enemies. When Reagan showed weakness in the Middle East (on numerous occasions) it only emboldened THOSE enemies. In that case, he did not think that they posed the long-term threat that they obviously did and do. I don’t want to repeat those mistakes endlessly. Obviously, some do. I don’t want to be sitting here 20 years from now after a hard fought victory with everyone saying - “If only we had stood up to the enemy, they would have backed down.” We now know (and many knew then)that Hitler would have backed down if just the French had stood up to him or the British at any number of times. They kept appeasing him and he was just emboldened. He did not think that they would even come to the aid of the Poles, but, finally, he had pushed them to far. Nevertheless, it was too late to avoid war. We are faced with much the same situation on even a larger scale. Be afraid, be very afraid if we just repeat those mistakes and further embolden the enemy.
What do you think the solution is - just talk and make nice with madmen and fanatics? Is your real name Neville?
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
‘I Don’t Think This Place Is Worth Another Soldier’s Life’ After 14 months in a Baghdad district torn by mounting sectarian violence, members of one U.S. unit are tired, bitter and skeptical.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
“More than a year after Congress told the Energy Department to harden the nation’s nuclear bomb factories and laboratories against terrorist raids, at least 5 of the 11 sites are certain to miss their deadlines, some by many years.
By Frank
October 29, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
RW, you’re the most clever of all of us. Uniblogger? That’s genius. You should have copyrighted it my fine friend, now the hacks have it in general circulation. You know, you could take over the world like that, I mean, make it pay off for journalists, comedians and writers from around the world to read your blog so that they get material and then you can control the entire globe’s media from your little keyboard……nah, you like hacking too much.
seems a shame.
By Truthman
October 29, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
Good morning all you Faux Christians all revved up to bomb Iran a little closer to the Stone Age!!!!
WAR! WAR! WAR! WAR! WAR!
Man, I’ll bet Jesus is PROUD OF YOU!!
Schmucks!!
By RB from Gwinnett
October 29, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
By REPOSTER October 29, 2007 10:09 AM
There are a couple of points you Godless libs are missing in all your rantings against Christians and R’s.
First, true Christians all know they are sinners. They fail like all others as they are human. The difference is, they are FORGIVEN for their transgressions. God will never “judge” them as you claim because when their sins are forgiven through Jesus’ death and their acceptance of his grace, it’s as if they never sinned at all. The “Hillary spitting in the face” thing will never happen.
Second, we would gladly debate you in the area of moral failures among parties, however, you would have to have some morals to start with for that to be a relevant debate. The party who completely ignores the behaviors of the likes of William Jefferson, Ted Kennedy, Ray Naegin, Marion Barry, etc. and continues to elect these criminals lives in a glass house. The difference here is the R party gets rid of it’s garbage for the most part. The D’s just keep bringing them back.
Lastly, before you start throwing out all the anti Christian stuff and start conversing about judgement and things of the Bible, you should try reading it first. It’s always obvious to those of us who have read it when we’re debating with people who have never read it and can only reapeat sound bites out of context. If you don’t read anything else, I highly reccomend you read the book of John. It’s an easy read and you can find it online. It follows Jesus’ life from birth to death and you’ll have an informed understanding of what you speak next time. Give it a shot.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
Blackadder,
That review is from a leftist that thinks some of those questions need to be asked, but that your Zeitgeist movie makes a mockery of them in it’s poor attempt at propaganda. Even the source page that supposedly gives you backup for the claims made in the movie simply cites programs, articles or books without dates, page numbers, context or anything else useful.
His website even has a link to Cats That Look Like Hitler
Do you ever get anything right?
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
Fake FEMA news conference director gets promotion
By Anonymous
October 29, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Gee, the Right really wants this Iraq (or maybe Iran) mess to be World War II, doesn’t it? Our last “clean” war, when right and wrong were clear-cut, the evil was obvious, the threat was apparent, and everybody was on the same side.
Sorry, guys—this junk with Saddam and terrorists and insurgents just doesn’t qualify. Bluster about “appeasement” and “Neville Chamberlain thinking” doesn’t work when the enemy’s an incompetent buffoon or a shadowy force of civilian fanatics.
Your war—and make no mistake, it IS yours, 100%—is no World War II. And your Bush-boy is certainly no Franklin Roosevelt.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
John “Pat” Philbin was not the director of the fake FEMA news conference, he was an employee that was made to ask questions as if he was a reporter. Even ITFS’s link tells you that if you follow through enough of their dodges.
By gc
October 29, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Historian, Supporting a brutal dictator like Saddam Hussein is simply a “mistake” to be brushed off and forgotten? Do you realize how many people are dead because of this “mistake”? Supplying Saddam with biological weapons in the 1980’s and then having to invade 20 years later to try and take them away has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars spent. Conservatives seem unable to think of options other than invasion and occupation of other nations or total appeasement. Terrorism should be fought by undermining and disrupting plots, detaining individuals involved, and taking away their weapons and finances. To do this America needs international friends who are willing to cooperate in accomplishing these goals. First strike invasions tend to make more enemies than friends in the fight against terrorism. Even General Petraeus when asked if the Iraq invasion has made us safer answered “I don’t know”. I fear we are making the same “mistakes” as were made in the Reagan era by arming the S** miltias and cultivating armament deals with dictatorships such as Pakistan. As to learning from history, tell us again how that British invasion and occupation of Iraq worked out after World War I.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Fast forward to the 7:07 mark when Billy Jeff leaves the building to see the tinfoil hat crowd confront him. Be sure to keep your conspiracy check list handy to see if they missed any.
By Say It Ain't So
October 29, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many “friends” of the Clinton’s!
1-James McDougal - Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a St arbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide..
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. R eported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992
6-Paul T ulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
To be continued.
By RB from Gwinnett
October 29, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
By Anonymous 11:02 AM
{{{Your war—and make no mistake, it IS yours, 100%}}}
So what do you make of these comments by the democrats who supported our efforts over there before it became politically popular to bash Bush and what we’re doing there.
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction… So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.23.2003
You can continue to attempt to revise history if you would like, but the truth stands on it’s own.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Great Catch RW!
Thanks
His title is: Director of External Affairs John “Pat” Philbin
He’s a FEMA director who pretended to be a reporter, at a fake news conference - then he got promoted.
By The Watcher
October 29, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Have you ever seen such pitiful desperation as at 11:17!
Better watch out, say it ain’t so….
Hillary could be after you next!
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
Your welcome ITFS,
You keep dishing out the lies and as time permits I’ll set you straight.
By The Watcher
October 29, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
OK, 11:18 just about matches it.
A perfect example of why at least for the next couple of election cycles, we got to keep the GOP in the basement.
By Dusty
October 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
STILL RELEVANT?? No way.
Luckovich’s cartoon would be relevant if it were Ahmajinebad with his barrel of nuclear facilites.
He’s the one getting ready to bomb “infidels” like American and Israeli citizens.
So whom is Luckovich making the villian? Why President Bush, of course. Vilify our president and support terrorists. Good ol’ liberal Luckovich!!!
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Once again, Hillary Rodham Clinton leads in a poll. This time, she was top choice when people were asked which major 2008 presidential candidate would make the scariest Halloween costume.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
{{{Sen. Graham may oppose Mukasey’s nomination. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) may oppose President Bush’s Attorney General nominee if Michael Mukasey says “waterboarding is not torture.” “If he does not believe that waterboarding is illegal, then that would really put doubts in my own mind,” Graham stated. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who also believes waterboarding is torture, suggested yesterday he may still support Mukasey.}}}
By Prophetess Kelley P
October 29, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Thats not all!!!!
The libs want to make Christmas illegal!!!!
WE WON”T LET YOU DESTROY AMERICA!!!!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!!
By getalife
October 29, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
Yes, add fema’s fake news conference to make it two issues (the other illegal immigration] that our fiends on the right care about.
Blowing up babies for nothing in Iraq,restoring the Constititution, etc… ,they remain loyal bushies.
Anyhoo, great toon Mike.
The gop will run Rudy who is advised by neocons and wants WWIII.
So, the choice will be if Americans want WWIII, a draft and permanant war or return to the good ole days of the Clintons with peace and properity.
The Clintons are positioned very well to win the general.
By Say It Ain't So
October 29, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which cont ained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Fe rguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s fr iend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mean Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigati ng Mean Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit h
By Luckoduh
October 29, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
{{{{“It only served to highlight just how little we’ve actually achieved compared to what we promised,” says the House aide. “Out of those thousand votes, about ten percent were bills that became law and half of those were namings of federal buildings and such. Fifty bills in a year doesn’t compare to what we promised, and she wanted to put a spotlight on it. She just doesn’t get it sometime.”}}}}
1000 votes for nothing.
And now they’re taking Friday off.
Geez.
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{{{{Last Thursday, one week after she was nearly killed, Bhutto assailed the madrasahs, the Islamic schools in Pakistan that are breeding grounds for terrorism. “These political madrasahs preach hatred and churn out brainwashed robots that become arsenals of weapons of violating the constitution of Pakistan,” she said. Musharraf has never dared to say anything like that. But the U.S. government, as matchmaker between Bhutto and Musharraf, is cautious about publicly taking sides in Pakistan’s crisis.}}}}
The woman, speaking out against the terrorists and the haters in her own country, has more courage than, uh, we do.
We don’t have the balls to draw a cartoon against them, do we mikey?
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{{{{PAYGO treats the economically vital tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 as revenue-losing, temporary provisions that must be “paid for” with spending reductions or tax hikes elsewhere. Given Congress’ pathological aversion to controlling expenditures, pulling the tax lever becomes a near-certainty.}}}}
You PAY as they GO.
Freaking campaign promises from the libs are trying to OUTSPEND each other, seriously add it up and then tell me when you ever heard a pinko say “cut,” while the Conservatives all vow to stop the madness.
I know which way I’m voting.
By Say It Ain't So
October 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Comme rce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr.. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his re pair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Following the advice you sometimes find IN THE NEWS can be very bad for you
By Say It Ain't So
October 29, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes”.
34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds 3 8-Sgt. Brian Hanley 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel 40-Major General William Robertson 41-Col. William Densberger 42-Col. Robert Kelly 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes 44-Steve Willis 45-Robert Williams 46-Conway LeBleu 47-Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list!
IS this the family that you want leading this country again?
While some of these might just be a coincidence, there sure are enough to make a rational person wonder.
By Luckoduh
October 29, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
{{{{By RW-(the original) October 29, 2007 11:31 AM Once again, Hillary Rodham Clinton leads in a poll. This time, she was top choice when people were asked which major 2008 presidential candidate would make the scariest Halloween costume.}}}}
The question is, what would you give some kid that showed up at your door with a Hillary mask on, as-suming that you didn’t pass out in horror?
A bull dy-ke bar?
A Bill Clinton “last seen” locating map?
The finger? (no, no, I’m just kidding.)
By Historian
October 29, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
gc - you are missing my point entirely. I said that Reagan made a lot of mistakes in the Middle East during the 1980s and we are still paying for them. Pulling out of Beirut after the bombing of the Marine barracks was just the beginning. Supporting So-dam Insane was another. It was the same mistake that many made in supporting Mussolini because they thought (hahahahahahaha) that the Italian dictator could be used to ‘contain’ Hitler. Hussein was supported because the Reagan administration thought he might contain Iran. The fact is, you cannot make a deal with the devil, because, like Jabez Stone, you will end up on trial for your immortal soul. We made that mistake. I am arguing that we don’t try to appease these idiots again. You want to go back and fix blame. Well that is fine. I will concede those points. However, I am MORE concerned about the future. If we show no resolve and only Carter-like weakness, we will be in a (literally) world of hurt!
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
Luckoduh,
I’d give the Hillary masked kid a sucker so she could take it home and pretend it was one of her voters before eating it.
By Luckoduh
October 29, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
Double speak:
{{{{“Democratic voters are not at all convinced that there’s a problem, because they believe in many ways that this is something that was kind of contrived by the administration in an effort to privatize the system,” says Maya MacGuineas, president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. “They see people using crisis rhetoric as a big exaggeration.”}}}}
{{{{And so, she says, Democratic candidates tend not to stick their necks out by making proposals.}}}}
{{{{Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) of New York has not issued a plan, because ((((“we don’t have a crisis in Social Security,”)))) she told the Boston Globe recently. ((((“We have a long-term solvency challenge)))) we can meet if we’re smart about it.”}}}}
When a lib says something that makes absolutely no sense, that means they want to raise taxes but don’t have the guts to say it.
To give you an idea of how bad it could be, I’ve never heard a lib say something that made any sense.
By Anonymous
October 29, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Say It Ain’t So:
It ain’t so. You’re right, a ‘rational’ person WOULD find that list suspicious—mainly because it’s bogus.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
When it comes to the Republican Right, best to keep their motto in mind: “Where there’s smoke, there’s mirrors.”
By Anonymous
October 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Andy, just because you’re too dim to UNDERSTAND what liberals say is no reason to say they make no sense.
Evolution’s a slow process: from Neanderthal to Republican and, eventually, to liberal. Maybe your kids will get there someday.
By getalife
October 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
In the brilliant political move by the Clintons, the yes vote on Kyl-Lieberman has clinched the national security issue of Iran. Obama and Edwards are against it to make them look weak on national security.
With Rudy’s stay the course and escalate permanent war to WWIII with his neocon ad visors, the choice in the general is clear. WWIII or peace, diplomocy and prosperity with the Clintons.
We gave war a chance and the gop are positioned to lose in a landslide. This will give the Clintons a larger dem majority and unlimited power thanks to dick.
By Bosch
October 29, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
Gee,
Say It Ain’t So is plagarizing themselves, and trying to implicate the Clintons was tied to or responsible for dozens of murders.
Wow, like we haven’t heard that one before.
How old is that list? 1994? Has any of it been proven? Nope, and the powers that be have had an awfully long time to try.
Aren’t the neo-cons always saying, even demanding something to the effect of “prove it” to us?
Clear case here of hypocrisy in action.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
{{{{{VALERIE PLAME WILSON: They were taking, it was a piece on Joe, and as I write about it in the book, uh, they came in, uh, asked me to do it, and, uh, I — just too much was going on at that time. Um, you have to remember this was months after the damage had been done}}}}}
No wonder we were getting such bad information from the CIA. She can’t even keep her lie together for two consecutive sentences.
Which was it Val? In the heat of the moment as all these things were happening like it says in your first sentence or months later like the second sentence states?
By B.P.O.E.
October 29, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Gosh. Things are really looking up for Republicans!!!! Happy days are here again.
First the riveting news about the Carter film from RW. Then we find out about the Hillary mask. Scary
To top it off we now know the Clintons mass murdered 1,819 people and Jesus loves immoral Republicans the best. Even scarier!
I’m sure glad Islamo-Fascist Week is over. SCARIEST ever.
(Boycott Halloween, its from the devil.)
High Fives!!!! 08 is going to be great! These are the issues that will sweep us to VICTORY!
By The Apocalypse
October 29, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Red sox rule! Now, all we need is for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Ah, Michelle Malkin.
Didn’t she used to work with Bill OReilly?
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
— Rep. Walter B. Jones of North Carolina has introduced a bill to prevent the use of U.S. military force in war without the consent of Congress.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
The Wiretap This Time
By getalife
October 29, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Get use to it, the wingnuts will post old smears against the Clintons even though they are bogus.
They will continue to ignore war crimes and other crimes committed by their party. We have one gop candidate, Ron Paul and one dem candidate, Senator Dodd, who are running on restoring the Constitution.
They will ignore that too.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
Toward the end of the Clinton Administration the Price of a Barrel of Oil was Below $20, Now It Has Reached an All-Time Record of More than $90 a Barrel. As Far as Bush and Cheney are Concerned, Mission Accomplished.
By The Apocalypse
October 29, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS,
Your idiocy leaves me speechless. Michelle Malkin is a hottie.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
CUT AND RUN?
U.S. embassy officials whisked Rumsfeld away yesterday from a breakfast meeting in Paris organized by the Foreign Policy magazine after human rights groups filed a criminal complaint against the man who spearheaded President George W. Bush’s “war on terror” for six years. Under international law, authorities in France are obliged to open an investigation when a complaint is made while the alleged torturer is on French soil. The report said Rumsfeld fled to Germany because similar charges were dismissed against him there in the spring.The German court ruled that Rumsfeld’s criminality was an internal matter for the United States.
By Mike
October 29, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
“Mike: Great idea—American cartoonists should definitely spend all their time lampooning nutjobs in other countries, who will never see or care about their work.”
Actually I said ” I wonder what it was like back in the day when liberal pundits criticized other countries, in addition to their own,” so drop the straw man.
The rest of your argument is silly. Constantly attacking American policy while ingoring the actions of other countries creates the mistaken impression that America is solely responsible for the world’s problems.
Take a look at the ignorant self-loathing on this board and you will see what I am talkign about.
It is funny to see how quickly “tolerant” liberals who seek “dialougue” are so willing to accept a one-sided and partisan debate.
By getalife
October 29, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
And of course, RW continues to support their treason on outing a CIA agent.
Wait for the damage report to come out RW, and you will see what happened to other CIA agents after she was outed.
I will remind you of your treason support when it comes out.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Substandard staffing, grounded aircraft and fewer reserve crews delayed efforts to quash the Santiago blaze.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
The ‘Boo ain’t no N.O. Plus: George Bush, Flame Retard
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Watercoolered: The CIA’s Double Secret Probation
News: Valerie Plame was just the latest woman to run up against Langley’s Kafkaesque workplace culture.
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Low Morale Has U.S. Troops in Iraq Pretending to Patrol Morale among US soldiers in the country is so poor, many are simply parking their Humvees and pretending to be on patrol, called “search and avoid” missions.
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
In that Snopes link it says four of the “bodygaurds” were ATF agents that died in the Waco debacle, so that’s at least four deaths on that list you can chalk up to Billy Jeff.
By Score Card
October 29, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Bill Jeff 4
George W Bush 1,003,830
Win with Bush!
By IN THE NEWS
October 29, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
FEMA spokesman’s new job on hold Intelligence Chief Delays Former FEMA Spokesman’s Start, Reviewing Fake News Conference
By RW-(the original)
October 29, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
Score Card,
Source please?
By Say It Ain't So
October 29, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
Anonymous- (12:24) Getalife (12:43) Yes Snopes claims there is not a “conspiracy to murder”, however they do not dispute ANY of the details surrounding all these deaths.
Now, please show me where I said the Clintons murdered, hired someone to murder, or in any way said that the Clintons were responsible for all these deaths.
I just reminded everyone that friends, employees, coworkers and associates of the Clintons seem to come to an untimely and unusual end.
But the libs supporting, electing and reelecting criminals is nothing new. Just look at the democrats that are currently in office.
By Score Card
October 29, 2007 1:19