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By Mike Luckovich | Friday, October 19, 2007, 08:51 PM

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By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

Look at Jay Kookman having to qualify his own column:

{{{{Let’s be honest: It’s not about the mussels.-Urinal}}}}

I thought you were going to be honest?

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{{{{Mr. Thompson, in turn, took a swing at Mr. Romney after one of the debate moderators said the former governor had run “to the left” of Sen. Edward (Swimmer) M. Kennedy in his failed 1994 Senate bid. “Actually, Mitt, I didn”t know there was any room to the left of Ted Kennedy. In fact, I didn”t know there was any room to the right of him, either.”}}}} ~~~~~~

{{{{“It’s rather unbelievable that [Hillary] Clinton would listen to a conversation being conducted by political opponents,” says one Republican campaign consultant, “but refuse to allow our intelligence agencies to listen to conversations conducted by terrorists as they plot and plan to kill us.”}}}}

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The terrorists in Iraq know full well that they can hide behind innocent civilians and get them killed or even kill them themselves, and the pinko media will be there to blame it on America:

{{{{The U.S. military said Sunday its forces killed an estimated 49 militants during a dawn raid to capture an Iranian-linked militia chief in Baghdad’s Sadr City enclave, but Iraqi police and hospital officials reported only 15 deaths, including three children killed when helicopter gunfire hit a house as they slept. Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said all the dead were civilians, and he told CNN that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki had met with the U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, to protest the action.-Urinal POS}}}}

The mainstream drive by media is fully responsible for each and every civilian death that occurs in combat with the terrorists.

Every one.

Instead of exposing the actions of the terrorists as despicable, these scumbag media people just do what comes normal to their sick, depraved minds and blames our troops for the actions of the terrorists.

The terrorists aren’t stupid, this is great, they kill civilians and display their bodies as propaganda against America, here comes the lib media to megaphone for them, with much joy and glee.

FY, POS AJC, MF.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 22, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

I knew a freshwater mussel once. No kidding.

In the old days, when the ‘Zillettes thought boys were icky and slimy, they also thought all stuff that really was icky and slimy was cool.

After an expedition to the Pearl River they brought home a shell, which contained our newest pet. Happy the Clam.

Thanks to the folks at the Ole’ Miss extension center we learned Happy the Clam was actually Happy the Freshwater Mussel. But the original name always stuck.

He lived at the bottom of a Tupperware bowl on the patio for nearly a year. The girlies had to go back to the river regularly for new “dirty” water. We learned about osmosis that summer.

One day the youngest ran in crying that there was some “white pudding” stuff in Happy’s bowl. We explained, holding back hysterical laughter, that the “white pudding” stuff WAS Happy.

I guess I have a soft spot for that particular species of mollusk.

Faced with our current (and probable future) water crisis, I believe the need of the humans outweigh the needs of my shelled friends. No doubt about it.

Is it not possible to satisfy our requirements and maybe also help out the little mussels?

Heck, aren’t we the home of one of the greatest Aquariums in the world?

Wouldn’t it be nice if Mr. Marcus and the aquarium staff took an interest in the plight of Happy’s relatives?

I’d volunteer to help. And if Mr. Marcus and the Georgia Aquarium needed some cash, I have a little put aside.

I’m praying for rain, cutting back wherever possible, given up ninja watering of my precious calicarpa and am watching the water evaporate from our old hot tub.

I have heard that other states that share our water do not have the same restrictions we do. If that is true, it’s just plain wrong.

I don’t care if the bank’s pansies whither or my car is dusty. Commercial watering must cease.

We should not be bottling tap water. Too much is wasted.

It is not going to get any better, so we will have to learn to live a little differently.

I also hope, we can leave some freshwater mussels for the next generation of kidlets who love the icky and the slimy.

By Anonymous

October 22, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

Shouldn’t DullAndy get his OWN blog, instead of posting repeatedly simpleminded and crude irrelevancies here day after day?

By getalife

October 22, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Well Ga., at least you are not on fire like in SoCal.

Saw treason last night on 60 minutes

Couric: “Do you think President Bush was in on this?”

Plame: “I don’t know about that, but I, like most other Americans saw President Bush say on TV that he would fire anyone from his administration found to be involved in the leak of my name. It turns out, the president is not a man of his word.”

But it gets worse:

So if you have wondered why Joe and Val are a little p** off, this might help shed some additional light on the matter. Not only did the Bush Administration out a covert intelligence officer working on the most sensitive national security issues in a time of war, but when that officer faced a direct threat to her life and her family’s safety because of that public exposure, they did not do a g******* thing to help.

Disgusting.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Plame was undercover trying to trick the Iranians into buying poison-pill blueprints for a phony nuke. Cheney outed her at a critical moment. Iran’s nukes were saved. Everyone in Iran who dealt with Plame were hanged. It’s part of the reason that amnehnijihad rose to power. Bush all but hoisted him up there. The truth is probably classified by Cheney, but in future generations, when the truth becomes unclassified, and Cheney/Bush are revealed to be the traitors they are, history wont be kind. (Of course, That future may be nuked by Iran, thanx to Cheney.)

Anyone else get the feeling that the man sized safe in Cheney’s office is radiation proof? What a coward.

I demand the resignation of George W Bush effective noon tomorrow. Ditto Cheney. Let the Speaker run things till Hillary takes the oath in ‘09.

alles sprechen der muffenheimer

Extra Credit: What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By IN THE NEWS

October 22, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 311

By JP

October 22, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Water, water, water. My gosh do we need water. It’s time we realized that as a species, we are caretakers of the environment. It’s essential that we take a look at the past and recognize the mistakes of the past. In the mid eighties during the last big drought, plans were drawn up to create more water reservoirs downstream of Lanier. This would have alleviated some of the pressure on Northern Ga, and still able to provide more of a precious natural resource downstream.

What happened? Take a guess.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

I cant guess, what happened? Uh, they didn’t build the reservoirs? A giant came and stopped them? It rained so much the day I left the weather it was dry?

What?

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 22, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

ML’s toon about what are W and Cheney going to be for Halloween was published in the Sunday St. Petersburg Times.

Lake Lanier’s plight was also done in a big story in the local papers. Gov Perdue even came accross as looking good.

As the great philosopher Mr. Spock once said, “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”.

SAVE YOUR WATER, a billion gallons of water a day released downstream sounds irresponsible.

Perhaps we need to consider pipelines to carry springtime floodwaters from the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers and pipe it into the Southeast to store in our reservoirs. We can move oil thousands of miles in pipelines, why not water? California can tell us how to do it.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

OK libs…

I gave you all day Friday to come up with Hillary accomplishments that would maybe slightly qualify her to be president. You provided a grand total of ZERO. Now you’ve had all weekend to think about it (and maybe revise some more history), so what do you have for us today? Anything?

By RW-(the original)

October 22, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Shouldn’t in the news/aka anonymous get his OWN blog, instead of posting repeatedly simpleminded and crude irrelevancies here day after day?

By JP

October 22, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

You can’t guess?

Red tape my man, red tape. NIMBYS, enviormentalists and capitalistic ventures thwarting the attempts at creating these reserviors. Not only could they have gained more water resources, the commercial impact of another lake would have benefited the region with increased habitat for fishing, economic oppourtunities for leisure and lessen the impact of water shortages in the future.

Instead, we got a bunch of infighting by individuals and organizations not looking at long term solutions.

A lot of states along the east coast are revisiting water resources and taking a hard look at future needs and pressures on current sources. With increasing populations, it only makes sense to investigate these issues.

I was doing some reading on desalinization technology and came away quite impressed. It’s something that should be looked into, in particular our neighbors to the south along the Gulf and the East along the Atlantic.

With populations expected to continue to rise, it’s important for us to examine our future water needs and sources now. It’s important to develop a plan of action and implement it now.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

OK libs…

I gave you all day Friday to come up with Hillary accomplishments that would maybe slightly qualify her to be president. You provided a grand total of ZERO. Now you’ve had all weekend to think about it (and maybe revise some more history), so what do you have for us today? Anything?

By Ditzty

October 22, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Good god, now this RB nobody thinks this is his blog.

Whose blog is this?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Red tape? That’s it? Aw, come on. Dont you have any stories with ponies or Indians in them? I love ponies. It’s not fair. Red tape. And just what am I supposed to do with red tape???

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

In fact, Novak told the Society of Professional Journalists that Wilson was more interested in not being portrayed as simply an opponent of the Iraq war. He also said that Wilson told him his wife goes by her married name.

Novak said he didn’t expect his report to lead to an investigation by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who Novak claims knew all along that the source of Plame’s identity original came from then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.

“It was an off-hand remark to a question I asked in an interview I requested,” Novak said. “This was not a conspiracy in the federal government to go after Valerie Plame Wilson.”

Novak also said he was forced to pay his legal fees, which totaled $160,000. His home newspaper, the Chicago Sun-Times, contributed $30,000. But most of all, Novak said he was shocked by the attacks against him for reporting a perfectly legitimate story.

“I was stunned by how little editorial support I received. I was under assault from editorial writers from across the country,” Novak said. “It is startling how little is known about this case by the people who are commenting on it.”

Of course the libs won’t support Novak. His “truth” doesn’t support their agenda.

By Ditzty

October 22, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Hey Anon/itn, RW wants to fight you.

He drives a pick up truck and will meet you at the Big Chicken at 12:00 for a big fist fight. This blog is that important.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

RB,

Ignorant question.

We know exactly what we will get with the Clintons in the WH again.

Google President Clinton you freaking moron.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

RB, She’s (at least) 35 years old, a naturalized U.S. citizen, and she has lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years.

That’s all the qualifications or accomplishments she needs.

You should tread lightly when asking such questions, when George W. is the president now. What did he do? Failed businesses, DUI arrests, what did he accomplish before he was Governor of Texas?

By Anonymous

October 22, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Good grief, RB, do your own research for a change. You can find the voting record of EVERY member of Congress at VoteSmart.org. Here’s Hillary’s votes:

http://votesmart.org/votingcategory.php?canid=55463

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Hell, for that matter, what has Bush accomplished SINCE being the Governor of Texas?

By getalife

October 22, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

RB,

Novak was the first to print her outing. He should be locked in Gitmo for treason with cheney, rove, libby and w.

Did you even watch 60 minutes last night?

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Novak also said he was forced to pay his legal fees, which totaled $160,000. His home newspaper, the Chicago Sun-Times, contributed $30,000. But most of all, Novak said he was shocked by the attacks against him for reporting a perfectly legitimate story.

“I was stunned by how little editorial support I received. I was under assault from editorial writers from across the country,” Novak said. “It is startling how little is known about this case by the people who are commenting on it.”

Maybe the Chicago Sun knew the truth: that Novak was a traitorous doucebag. Why should they help him?

I don’t support him because he’s a traitor, not because I’m a liberal.

By Truthman

October 22, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

News flash from the Fred Thompson campaign trail:

“Fred Thompson denies missing Republican debate to take wife to cheerleading practice.”

Film at 11!

By IN THE NEWS

October 22, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

The List of Bush’s Lies and Policy Failures

By Anonymous

October 22, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Sounds like RW is DullAndy’s biggest fan… a shame, given that RW seems capable of completing a sentence without screaming or cursing. Why do you want to step down to that level, RW?

By Beltway Bandit

October 22, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

I read a fine article in the NY Times this weekend on the water situation out west. Very interesting. It seems that they are having to come up with a system that will bring them water in the event that the Colorado River flow reaches a certain low level. There is an agreement in place where “the river’s lower-basin states (Nevada, Arizona and California) can legally force the upper-basin states (Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico and Utah) to reduce or stop their water withdrawals.” Sounds like the Western U. S. is a few years ahead of the Eastern U. S., as usual.

Check it out when you have an hour to spend reading: The Future Is Drying Up

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

I watched a show on the science channel last night about global warming. Tom Brokaw narrated it. I’m done arguing about it. The science is there, you can choose to believe it or not. I don’t care, but the least anybody can do, is to be environmentally responsible.

Whether or not you believe it is a natural occurence or it is man-made, it doesn’t matter, just please be environmentally responsible.

By Paul

October 22, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

getalife 8:21

I guess this is what happens when things get better in parts of Iraq - resurrect the Valerie Plame story!

I guess we’ll have to rehash everything - not - but as far as firing a “leaker” - Richard Armitage left public service in 2005. And Pres Bush couldn’t fire her husband for using the phrase “covert agent” (which neither Armitage nor Novak did, but Wilson did in his interview that introduced that phrase to the public) because he wasn’t part of the administration.

Until late this afternoon - maybe - have a good one -

Analchord 8:32

You’re really John LeCarre, writer of spy fiction, right? Keep hanging here - plenty of material for new novels!

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Sometimes it’s not a matter of whether of not you CAN do something, it’s a matter of SHOULD you do it.

By Paul

October 22, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Bosch 9:29

The screen refreshed, your comment popped up, and I just can’t resist….

You sound just like Bill O Reilly!

So There!

:-)

Have a good day today -

By mm

October 22, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

In case anyone missed the Republican debate last night, here is a summary:

“I’m more conservative.”

“No, I’m more conservative.”

“I don’t run with scissors.”

“I eat all of my vegetables.”

“I say my prayers every night.”

“I’m 9/11 man.”

“I’m POW man.”

“I’m Hollywood man.”

“Hillary is bad.”

What a joke.

By BR from Cobb

October 22, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Hi everyone! I have a question to ask all you liberals. If Hillary Clinton were a tree, what kind of tree would she be?

By georgia74

October 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

RB, If George Bush is qualified to be President, anything breathing or hasn’t been dead over three days is qualified.

By reebok

October 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is boring. And Bush should fire himself for outing Valerie Plame.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Not one word about OBL last night in the gop debate.

Like w, they gave him amnesty and declared an American woman the enemy.

How pathetic is that?

Geez.

Paul,

Actually, if you watched before you spew, she has a book coming out. It was Novak who printed the outing. There were many leaks. All treason.

For those who spew before they watch it, you can see the treason here

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Anonymous October 22, 2007 9:25 AM Sounds like RW is DullAndy’s biggest fan… a shame, given that RW seems capable of completing a sentence without screaming or cursing. Why do you want to step down to that level, RW?}}}}

Is it inbred in these liberals that they have to anoint themselves as the Grand Overseer Of All Blog Conduct, Common People Should Address Me As Sir?

Is your life so devoid of control that you have to exercise oversight authority of a political debate, one where I bring subjects of discussion to the table, and you bring uncontrolled sobbing and whining and gnashing of your stupid teeth because you cannot answer me with any facts or evidence?

You are the most inconsequential blogger in all of the Internet, a serial ankle biter that has nothing to offer but insignificant hall monitoring, a virtual nun in digital Catholic school.

Be quite, Fool.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

You’ve GOT to be kidding. You’re not actually confusing the fact Hillary can qualify (over 35, citizen, etc.) with her being “qualified” to be president, are you? Surely you’re smarter than that. And don’t give me voting records you moron. If showing up to vote qualifies her, then Larry Craig is as qualified as she is. I want to know what bills she’s written, what meaningful plans she’s developed, anything that qualifies her to run this country. The fact is she hasn’t done a d_ thing since she’s been in office and didn’t do anything prior to that either that qualifies her to run this nation.

And don’t give me “look up the Clinton Presidency” either. We’re not voting for Bill are we? And if we are, I don’t need to look it up, I lived through it and don’t really care to again. There’s a blight on our history….

And yes, the libs do view Novak as a traitor, but not the United States, but to the Democratic Party. Again, his truth doesn’t support their “smear the Bush administration at all costs” campaign and he must be tossed under the bus and backed over a few times.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

And her book Paul, you will learn that Al-Qaeda threatened to kill cheney, rove and Plame.

cheney and rove security was beefed up but none for Plame.

She was outed and then not protected by her government.

You keep cheering for those pathetic people Paul.

Scum.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

I guess Kid Rock really covered the other guy in punches, smothered him in headlocks, dragged him through the garden etc….

Dumbldork is gay? Sen. Craig could have used the invisibility cloak to get out of the mensroom, eh?

It’s Getting serious in Turkey. At what point do allies become the enemy? Do we side with kurds or turks? History says turks. We’ve doublecrossed the kurds twice in recent memory. Especially after desert storm. Then we made up for it with the no fly zone. (Curb your enthusiam was brilliant last night, a rare treat).

Boston is the new dynasty. Because they’re a team and not just an assembly of allstars, like the Rockies, Boston will win in five or six. (or 7)

By getalife

October 22, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

RB,

She has a brain and can speak English.

That alone is drastic improvement over w.

Idiot.

By Paul

October 22, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

getalife 9:45

My first appointment’s running late so I get to stay for a few -

Of course it had to be a book promotion - and the anchors are willing to oblige.

Remember a past discussion? How something can be “wrong” yet “not illegal?” Assuming, right from the start - Fitzgerald knew she was “covert” at the time of the “outing?” Yet he still couldn’t prosecute anyone for it because of the language of the statutes (which inevitably leads to months-long “investigations”).

How that just maybe Congress should hold hearings, amend the law so nothing like this - “endangering agents, causing others to lose their lives, blown operations, etc etc” could ever happen again?

You’d think Congress would, especially since the opposition party has control, right?

Nawwwwwww - and I know, just one more reason why you’re so disgusted with them.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

October 22, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

DUMBLEDORK IS NOT GAY!

By getalife

October 22, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t like the Gop because they want to invade my bedroom.

They can’t tell me and my lover what to do.

Homophobes.

By Dubya

October 22, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Ahh, did you see them last night?? Didja? The Republiscum’s best and brightest. Doing what they do best: puking forth insults and lies about each other, Hillery, the country, the world, history, facts. Character assassination in every direction. All of them good, family-values, American Christians, walking in the footsteps of…The Master. The epitome of Repuglicanism who make their little constituents so proud! Indeed, what a wholesome, prideful group they are. Like something out of the House of Frankenstein. Every one a “hero” and a “patriot.”

Well, lets see how many innocents we can slaughter in Iraq today for your amusement. And never worry, our FBI Storm Troopers are ever busy breaking into David Copperfield’s private property, drooling as they examine all his wondrous sets and goodies. Proud to be a Murcun?? I should say so! Praise thee Lord n God Bless Murcuh!!

By @@

October 22, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

You have a gift ml. When your cartoons address the drought IT RAINS!!!!

You could be another Al Gore. Stick with what you don’t and we’ll be able to flush it.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Congress is busy writing immunity for telecom companies for breaking the law.

Which part of broken government do you not understand?

libby took the fall and w freed him. Just another travesty of so called “liberty and justice for all”.

Geez.

By Paul

October 22, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

getalife 10:00

All the more reason that segment of the party’s influence is waning.

People should mind their own business. Live and let live.

By @@

October 22, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Oops!

make that “stick with what you don’t know and we’ll be able to flush it.”

IHB

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

RB,

No, I’m not confusing that fact at all, it’s right there in the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1.

See, it’s like this, Hillary is just as qualified as anybody, including Craig, including Dubya, including Guiliani, including RuPaul for that matter, anybody who fits the qualifications That’s the breaks, dude.

You don’t like her, you think she isn’t qualified, then don’t vote for her. Okay?

Again, you should be very careful when you start asking for qualifications for President.

Qualifications are all in the eye of the beholder.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Glad you feel that way.

I’ll tell my boyfriend you said hello.

Geez.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

I’ll remember that Paul - that was low down.

By BR from Cobb

October 22, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Ummmm, come on all you libs. I asked this over a half hour ago. Why can’t you answer?

“If Hillary Clinton were a tree, what kind of tree would she be?”

By Paul

October 22, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

getalife

“Which part of broken government do you not understand?”

Broken? Also interested in grand theater. Which is part of being broken.

By Presidential Accomplishments

October 22, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett- None of the candidates from either party has been President, a unique set of job skills in and of itself.

None of the candidates thereby have accomplishments that are relevant to the job, because none of them has ever done the job. Every single one brings to the debate a uniques set of life experinces and values that qualifies them to lead.

No Republican candidate has any presidential experience. Closest thing out there to a candidate having any presidential experience whatsoever is Hillary Clinton who at least resided within the Whitehouse and was activist regarding many issues during her husband’s 8 year tenure.

So your argument that Hillary has no presidential accomplishments is actually counter to the disparagement you wish to make. Nice try at partisan hacking, but no banana for you today, Bush-monkey.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Did I watch 60 Minutes last night??? Why in the world would I waste 60 minutes of my life watching liberal propoganda from those clowns? What a waste of what was once a relevant program…

Bosch. We finally agree on something. Whether you agree with global warming being man made or not, it makes sense to conserve. Amen!!

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

What do you know, another Campaign Finance Scandal, should we start numbering them?:

{{{{“That Hillary Clinton’s campaign is involved with this particular cast of characters should give people pause,” says John Moscow, a former Manhattan prosecutor. In the late 1980s and early ’90s he led the investigation of the corrupt Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) global financial empire—a bank whose prominent shareholders included members of the Harken board. “Too many of the same names from earlier troubling circumstances suggests a lack of control over who she is dealing with,” says Moscow, “or a policy of dealing with anyone who can pay.”}}}}

All Hail the Crook In Chief.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Did I watch 60 Minutes last night??? Why in the world would I waste 60 minutes of my life watching liberal propoganda from those clowns? What a waste of what was once a relevant program…

Bosch. We finally agree on something. Whether you agree with global warming being man made or not, it makes sense to conserve. Amen!!

By BAMF From Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Ok, all you cons here’s the question.

If George Bush was a steaming pile of excrement, what kind of animal would have pinched that loaf?

You better answer within the next 30 minutes or I’ll ask another stupid question.

By Hearts and Minds

October 22, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S.-led forces reported killing 49 insurgents on Sunday during predawn clashes with renegade Shiite militia members. The fighting was the deadliest in recent months and further stoked furor among Iraqis over the heavy toll the war is taking on civilians.

The U.S. military claimed that no civilians were killed or injured during the raid, while Iraqi police said at least 13 were dead, including three children and a woman. Iraqi authorities said 69 people were injured.

“The best equipped, most highly trained fighting force the world has ever seen”……..still can’t manage to shoot straight. Or are they TRYING to shoot the women and kids? Must be part of that grand Republican scheme to win over the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people by killing off their women and children!

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Presidential Experience??? Your gene pool not have a deep end??

So if I spend enough time in a hospital, I can call myself a doctor??? Learn through osmosis maybe? It should be obvious to all of you Hillary didn’t spend too much time in the oval office if you know what I mean.

It’s not about experience as a President you mental midget, it’s about experience “governing”. Leading the people, accomplishing things through the governing process, writing legislation that makes a difference in the lives of your constituants, providing the proper level of tax and spend to keep the economy growing, etc. She’s done NOTHING and you still think she should have the reins because she was there with Bill. Incredible…

By @@

October 22, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

An elephant of course!

Question for PoliFore. What, exactly did you mean when you posted this?

(((By Political Foreskin December 23, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this)))

(((I’d rather stick steel wool up my twinkie with a fork and twist it round and round no matter how much it hurt than to go see Rocky Balboa.)))

TWINKIE: a young and fresh-looking homosexual.

Getalife, you better keep a close watch on PoliFore — he’s into S&M.

By BR from Cobb

October 22, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Well I think Hillary would be a prune tree. Thats right a prune tree. You pc feel good libs may be thinking I mean plum tree, but that shriveled up old lady Clinton is way past her plum days. She can’t bear anything anymore and thats why she can’t be president.

Prunes are a fruit right? She sure fits that category and is why she is popular in California. Lets just say there are rumors.

When them dried up shriveled old prunes drop from her branches I can guarantee one thing. There will be a thousand welfare recipients waiting under those branches to get a free prune handout. It will help them pass all that government free cheese they are still eating. That stuff will stop you up good, and I guess its better then them being treated at Grady for an obstruction and using my taxpayer dollars.

By @@

October 22, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

This was posted at Stratfor on Friday. Why no mention here?

(((Iranian national security chief Ali Larijani has resigned, a spokesman for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Oct. 20. Saeed Jalili, a deputy foreign minister for European and American affairs, is set to replace Larijani as secretary of the Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) and continue negotiations with the West over the country’s controversial nuclear program.)))

(((There is growing opposition to Ahmadinejad in the ruling circles, but Khamenei does not wish to remove him through an extra-procedural measure, especially with elections —when Ahmadinejad could be purged constitutionally — only six months away.)))

(((In the meantime, Moscow’s offer has sparked an internal crisis that comes at an especially bad time for the Iranians. They are in the crucial stages not only of nuclear negotiations with the West, but also (and more importantly) of talks with the United States on the future of Iraq. This crisis weakens Tehran in the context of both sets of negotiations, and it provides Washington an opportunity to gain an edge in the struggle over Iraq.)))

An opportunity to exploit a situation.

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Hearts and Minds October 22, 2007 10:34 AM “The best equipped, most highly trained fighting force the world has ever seen”……..still can’t manage to shoot straight. Or are they TRYING to shoot the women and kids? Must be part of that grand Republican scheme to win over the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people by killing off their women and children!}}}}

POS Spammie: You and the POS Atlanta Urinal Constitution may be more inclined to believe enemy propaganda, propaganda from a terrorist organization that TARGETS WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS STANDARD PRACTICE, but I am more likely to believe the United States Army, which SACRIFICES THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS THEY HAVE DONE ALL THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY.

{{{{The U.S. military said it was not aware of any civilian casualties, and the discrepancy in the death tolls and accounts of what happened could not be reconciled. American commanders reported no U.S. casualties.}}}}

But then again, I’m not a gleeful as-shole traitor like you are.

GFY.

By Shawny

October 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Hillary’s qualifications, seen here.

scary, ain’t it?

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

RB,

Give it a rest, you can’t win this argument.

No, you can’t call yourself a doctor if you spend a lot of time in the hospital, that’s illegal. You need a medical license to call yourself a doctor - did you not know that?

Here’s some things she’s done:

She’s a lawyer, she’s a two-term Senator from New York, she has served on five Senate committees with nine subcommittee assignments.

We get it, you don’t like her and don’t find her qualified to be President.

Again, don’t vote for her and move along.

I find it incredible that you are so stubborn on this. Can you tell me what Bush has accomplished in his presidency?

See the thing is, what you consider acomplishments and what I consider accomplishments are not the same. You can ask what qualified Hillary, and I can ask what qualifies Rudy? You can waste your time and make a list of Rudy’s accomplishments, and I can waste my time and list Hillary’s. You’ll come back and say, “Oh those aren’t accomplishements because….” and I can come right back and say the same thing.

It’s a ridiculous exercise.

You do not get to determine who is qualified and who isn’t. You get to vote. That’s it. The Constitution is pretty clear about this.

By AntiRadical

October 22, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Good morning to all. Good toon ML, so you must whole-heartedly support Gov Perdue’s initiative to declare N GA counties a disaster area, or is the drought somehow another Rep induced catastrophy? Thankfully, our Rep Gov has not been frozen into the same apathy we saw with GWB/Katrina.

Sorry to interupt the bickering, but I would like to pimp the blog today in the name of my favorite IRS deduction, Heifer International. We have to start earlier each year in order to catch the holiday giving seson before everyone is “given out”, so please pardon the request for donations at this early date.

Heifer Int. provides seed stock animals that allow people in dire need to lift themselves from the depths of poverty. Each recipient is required to “pass on the gift” to at least one other in need as payment for their assistance.

Heifer is very judicious in it’s allocations (personally witnessed) and is entirely apolitical so liberals and conservatives alike can contribute should they so choose.

Please join me in support of this worthy mission.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

By Hearts and Minds October 22, 2007 10:34 AM

Question for you Einstein… What were the 49 insurgents doing? Having tea maybe, playing bridge, watching old reruns of Andy Griffith? They couldn’t possibly have had weapons could they? They weren’t shooting back were they? Nooooo, I would bet they were all sitting around making cookies and brownies when those mean nasty US servicemen broke in and shot them all dead and then killed some women and children too just for the fun of it.

Is it possible the insurgents killed the women and children becasue they know people like you are too stupid to THINK about what happens in a war zone and would actually post something as moronic as what you just posted? You are a freaking stupid tool of the enemy and you’re too stupid to even realize it. Unbelievable…

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Here are 35 inconvenient truths about Al Gore’s movie.

The science is settled, the consensus is that Al Gore is a demagogue, and the debate is over.

By @@

October 22, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Our church has been participating in Heifer International for four years now. We give year round.

It is an awesome program. Very unique in that it perpetuates itself.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

By Hearts and Minds October 22, 2007 10:34 AM

Question for you Einstein… What were the 49 insurgents doing? Having tea maybe, playing bridge, watching old reruns of Andy Griffith? They couldn’t possibly have had weapons could they? They weren’t shooting back were they? Nooooo, I would bet they were all sitting around making cookies and brownies when those mean nasty US servicemen broke in and shot them all dead and then killed some women and children too just for the fun of it.

Is it possible the insurgents killed the women and children becasue they know people like you are too stupid to THINK about what happens in a war zone and would actually post something as moronic as what you just posted? You are a freaking stupid tool of the enemy and you’re too stupid to even realize it. Unbelievable…

By getalife

October 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Scary is what w and gop have done to this country for Ron Paul to have to introduce this bill:

“This legislation seeks to restore the checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers to prevent abuse of Americans by their government. This proposed legislation would repeal the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and re-establish the traditional practice that military commissions may be used to try war crimes in places of active hostility where a rapid trial is necessary to preserve evidence or prevent chaos.

The legislation clarifies that no information shall be admitted as evidence if it is obtained from the defendant through the use of torture or coercion. It codifies the FISA process as the means by which foreign intelligence may be obtained and it gives members of the Senate and the House of Representatives standing in court to challenge presidential signing statements that declares the president’s intent to disregard certain aspects of a law passed in the U.S. Congress. It prohibits kidnapping and extraordinary rendition of prisoners to foreign countries on the president’s unilateral determination that the suspect is an enemy combatant. It defends the first amendment by clarifying that journalists are not to be prevented from publishing information received from the legislative or executive branch unless such publication would cause immediate, direct, and irreparable harm to the United States.

Finally, the legislation would prohibit the use of secret evidence to designate an individual or organization with a United States presence to be a foreign terrorist or foreign terrorist organization”

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

RB, you had the post of the day until you couldn’t help yourself from using a derivation of moron.

Look, the word moron is over. I know I was the one who got all the laughs with it for years, but I was hacking jerry lewis. He’s the one who started using it the most. I was simply using it because he used it and I thought it was funny.

SO, we’ll give you a “dew moreover”. Simply reblog your comment, remove the word moronic and everything will be perfect.

Alles sprechen der murunheimer

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 22, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

The funny thing is that cartoon boy got this one right. I think it really depends so much on whose ox is being gored. The pun there is intended. You see, you liberals who have always walked in lock-step with the radical envirnonmentalists really do miss the point constantly. YOU are the ones who are interfering with nature. If there were no Buford Dam, then the river would already be running at a trickle and those mussles down stream would be DEAD already. YOU FOLKS HAVE CAUSED THIS BY ENDORSING AND WRITING AND PASSING REDICULOUS LEGISLATION WHICH DOES NOT WORK IN THE REAL WORLD. You do this with everything, including health care, retirement, labor law and even taxes. Your big government, anti-market place wacko-leftist, Marxist-Leninist phylosophy just does NOT WORK, NEVER, AT ANY TIME, AT ALL! Enjoy your Saturday baths in shared dirty water!

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

{{{{Col. Rick Gibbs: I would just say that what the brave men and women of the Dragon Brigade are accomplishing here in southern Baghdad is nothing short of amazing. I like to say that “Our soldiers are our greatest ambassadors,” because it is absolutely true. I watch young captains, lieutenants, and sergeants who have but a few years in the army carrying on healthy, effective relationships with local military, government, religious, and tribal officials here that you would expect of people with years and years of service.}}}}

{{{{I want the American people to know that their most precious resource — your sons and daughters — are doing amazing things here and we are seeing the kind of progress that I hope I’ve successfully illustrated in the previous questions.}}}}

{{{{I also want to thank our families, family readiness groups, and communities in Fort Riley, Junction City, and Manhattan, Kansas. They have been a great source of support and inspiration for us in the time we’ve been deployed, and we look forward to the day when we can say that our time here is done and we can return home to those who have been there for us the most.}}}}

By getalife

October 22, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Look what w and gop have done to this country for Ron Paul to have to introduce this bill:

“This legislation seeks to restore the checks and balances enshrined in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers to prevent abuse of Americans by their government. This proposed legislation would repeal the Military Commissions Act of 2006 and re-establish the traditional practice that military commissions may be used to try war crimes in places of active hostility where a rapid trial is necessary to preserve evidence or prevent chaos.

The legislation clarifies that no information shall be admitted as evidence if it is obtained from the defendant through the use of torture or coercion. It codifies the FISA process as the means by which foreign intelligence may be obtained and it gives members of the Senate and the House of Representatives standing in court to challenge presidential signing statements that declares the president’s intent to disregard certain aspects of a law passed in the U.S. Congress. It prohibits kidnapping and extraordinary rendition of prisoners to foreign countries on the president’s unilateral determination that the suspect is an enemy combatant. It defends the first amendment by clarifying that journalists are not to be prevented from publishing information received from the legislative or executive branch unless such publication would cause immediate, direct, and irreparable harm to the United States.

Finally, the legislation would prohibit the use of secret evidence to designate an individual or organization with a United States presence to be a foreign terrorist or foreign terrorist organization”

The Clintons never did this kind of crap.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

By AntiRadical October 22, 2007 10:58 AM

Still blaming Bush for Katrina… Somehow he’s personally responsible for the mess when the Democrat Mayor of the city and the Democrat Governor of the state get a pass from you. How is that? Doesn’t fit your agenda maybe? Were you expecting GWB to go down there and make people get on those empty busses and drive them himself? What an idiot. Only people as mindless as you could still be blaming Bush for that and re-elect a moron like Nagean (sp?) as mayor of the “chocolate” city.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

AntiRadical and @@,

We buy animals every year. I bought a llama for my mother one year for Christmas and she was horrified that it would bite her and mess up the yard. I had to explain a little more.

My kids have been to the ranch in Arkansas, it’s an amazing place.

By Anonymous

October 22, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

You’re entirely right, BD.

The scientific consensus IS overwhelming, and the global-warming debate IS over.

http://tinyurl.com/rf9p2

Unfortunately, the truth is on Gore’s side, not yours.

By BAMF from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

I warned you.

If George Bush was a pallet of bottled water, how long would it take him to get to the Gulf Coast, after a stop to go fishing, a stop to eat birthday cake and were the Ferragamo pumps really his?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Our dear Gubernatorial Goober has banned donating Water Buffalos to the poor as part of his drought remedy. So Heifer needs to take that particular animal off the menu of choices to donate petting zoo escapees to hungry people. I suggest they replace it with a panda. Like the chinese do.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Looks like NO will not be the only city to rebuild after today’s fires in SoCal.

Geez.

By AntiRadical

October 22, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

RB- Federal response to Katrina ala GWB/Brownie was the problem, not the hurricane itself.

Clinton had his own hurricane, Andrew, lest we forget and his response and the results therefrom where in start contrast to that of your idol, GWB, and his man on the ground, Brownie.

Hurricane Andrew was the second-most-destructive hurricane in U.S. history.

I’m sorry but Katrina was not GWBs finest hour; own it and move on. Denial is not just a river in Egypt, and it makes you look extremely foolish in this case.

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Uh oh.

Looks as if the hard-core Bible thumpers may have no choice but to try to convince their “faithful” to support a flip flopping, neo-heathen in Mormon clothes rather than the other RINO Giuliani.

And if they detest him so, it makes me want to take a closer look at “America’s mayor”.

{{{Evangelical leaders are urging followers to support Romney’s campaign for president to prevent Giuliani from gaining the Republican nomination.

One evangelical, pro-life activist and attorney James Bopp Jr., last week sent a letter to hundreds of social conservatives warning that they must unite behind Romney or risk a Giuliani victory.

“Other evangelical leaders have weighed in on the acceptability of the leading Republican candidates. [Focus on the Family founder] Dr. James Dobson, America’s most influential evangelical leader, has expressed his opinion that Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Fred Thompson are not acceptable, based on their positions on various important conservative issues.”

Bopp points out that Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and Dr. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention have also declared that Romney is an acceptable presidential choice for social conservatives.

“So it does come down to two things,” Bopp concludes in his letter.

Dr. Bob Jones III, chancellor of Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., has also come out in support of Romney.}}}

ANY moderate Republican is going to be distasteful to this impractical and dogmatic crowd due to their intransigent litmus tests on two or three wedge issues. Whether the man they support is a complete screw up regarding everything else is of no matter to them apparently.

It seems that for them, their support for any candidate is always going to be a matter of religious ideology first not basic competence, true leadership or what is best for the United States.

And how awful for the nation is more of what we’ve seen from this crowd for the past seven years?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

How can you tell which airline passenger is the gay terrorist? Easy. He’s the one who’s light’n his loafers.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

AmVet, Your post supports my theory that people either do not want to think for themselves, or are completely incapable to do so.

Why not Huckabee I wonder? He’s one of them. I wonder why they aren’t supporting him?

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

By AntiRadical October 22, 2007 11:39 AM

There are many thing I can fault Bush for, but Katrina is NOT one of them. To try to pin that cluster on Bush is just another of you liberals “slam Bush for anything and everything” plan. That’s a joke and we’re tired of hearing it.

The reason Andrew worked out better is the Governor and local officials there had a clue. Yes they had help from the feds, but they didn’t stand there with their thumb up the a@@ and throw bricks at the Bush administration like the idiot mayor and worthless governor did with Katrina.

You can lob the insults at Bush if you want to, but you can’t change the facts.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

By AntiRadical October 22, 2007 11:39 AM

There are many thing I can fault Bush for, but Katrina is NOT one of them. To try to pin that cluster on Bush is just another of you liberals “slam Bush for anything and everything” plan. That’s a joke and we’re tired of hearing it.

The reason Andrew worked out better is the Governor and local officials there had a clue. Yes they had help from the feds, but they didn’t stand there with their thumb up the a@@ and throw bricks at the Bush administration like the idiot mayor and worthless governor did with Katrina.

You can lob the insults at Bush if you want to, but you can’t change the facts.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Bosch has a theory with 2 opposite conclusions? This is why I say we need a mensa IQ test for blogging priveledges.

Bosch, try flash cards, less peyote, and more seafood.

‘muff said

By AntiRadical

October 22, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Actually, RB, first repsonse to Andrew was on GHB’s watch. He did a much better job of it than “junior” did with Katrina and that is a highly documneted historical fact that you seem to be unaware of.

Clinton worked in a bipartisan manner to promulgate the recovery when he had office. Effectively, I might add.

There are many factors at play here and I do admit that we are comparing apples and oranges, but there is simply no comparison between GWB and his father/Clinton in terms of response and result.

I repeat, Katrina was not GWBs finest hour; instead it is perhaps the greatest failure of his presidency as it gave fodder to the notion that he cares more for the welfare of Iraqis than he does americans.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

I would go with “are completely incapable to do so”.

It is amazing how they block out and ignore what the gop have done in their time of power.

They keep voting for a party that does nothing for them.

Insane thinking there will be a different outcome. The gop will stay the course in the destruction of our country, ignoring the Constitution, the rule of law and keep stealing freedoms thousands of the greatest generation have died for.

Unbelievable.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

So FEMA did a good job, RB? Brownie did all he could? He was the right man for that job? Really?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Hillary 08.

By bon scott

October 22, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) - October 22, 2007 8:53 AM - Shouldn’t in the news/aka anonymous get his OWN blog, instead of posting repeatedly simpleminded and crude irrelevancies here day after day?

I dunno RW. In between lovingly tending to your newest meth batch, and repititiously defending that barely functioning alcoholic Andy, shouldn’t you be looking in the mirror and seeing what a shallow liar you (and your “Soldiers of War” buddy) are?

Yup, President Bush and a good portion of our Iraq forces (aided by that paragon of fairness, Blackwater) can do no wrong. Every Iraqi man woman and child they kill is a terrorist; a terrorist whose WMDs and IEDs magically disappear during questioning. (Admittedly, it’s hard questioning a corpse). Not to worry. The lucky “terrrorists” have corroded, non functioning AK-47s planted next to them to “prove” they are evil.

And the moon is made of gorgonzola cheese.

Mistakes are made in war. But your (and drunken Andy’s) refusal to admit that not a single one has been made simply shows that the illegal substances you’ve been sampling has fried your neurons.

Now go back and tend to your meth lab. That stuff can be explosive, you know. Then you and Andy can share the ice and ethyl you’ve made and strive for that feeling so close to being normal.

Of course, that means you’ll be repeating the exact same lies about the “perfection” of the Iraq war over and over again, but I’ll have to be a Christian and forgive you. With so few brain cells left, you can’t help yourselves.

By Gregg

October 22, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

You sure hit that one square, Dubya. These Repunk lowlifes watch that hatred being spewed out and their weak, twisted mindsets believe it’s “normal” behavior. That’s how low they’ve degraded this country and made millions be rightfully ashamed to be Americans today.

By Midori

October 22, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

who is this “RB” idiot?

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

{{{{Unfortunately, the truth is on Gore’s side, not yours.}}}}

Bwahahahahahaha. Whatever, dude. You all are making fools of yourselves, but far be it for me to stop you.

{{{By Bosch

October 22, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

AmVet, Your post supports my theory that people either do not want to think for themselves, or are completely incapable to do so.}}}

Bosch,

Congratulations! Even a dolt like you is capable of figuring out that Amvet the Blowhard is incapable of thinking for himself!

Now if you could just demonstrate how you think for yourself we’ll really be making progress.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

“Now if you could just demonstrate how you think for yourself we’ll really be making progress.”

That’s SO rich coming from a brain numbed wingnut.

Midori,

He’s our right wing parrot.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

RB is RW or his clone.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Bon Scottie el fincho,

You know it’s a very good thing that this is an anonymous blog our you’d be facing charges of libel right about now. In the real world your only defense would be pleading insanity.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Hillary 08

By Betty

October 22, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish and RB from Gwinnett are two of the best posters here. By far. Their intellect and appeal are startling. Accents in life offer particular flavors, folks, these are two of the finest.

Un-freaken-believable. I feel lucky today.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

“Remember this from last week?

The U.S. military believes it has dealt devastating and perhaps irreversible blows to al-Qaeda in Iraq in recent months, leading some generals to advocate a declaration of victory over the group, which the Bush administration has long described as the most lethal U.S. adversary in Iraq.

But there’s always that big dark cloud around any tiny silver lining in Iraq. WaPo reports that part today:

Gen. David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker have concluded that Shiite extremists pose a rising threat to the U.S. effort in Iraq, as the relative influence of Sunni insurgent groups such as al-Qaeda in Iraq has diminished drastically because of ongoing U.S. operations.

Who could have predicted that? It’s as if the U.S. is bogged down in the middle of a sectarian civil war in Iraq.”

duh.

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch, I think you know how I feel about the extraordinary, undue and IMHO, unfavorable influence of organized agenda-driven Christianity on many of todays politicians.

With that said, you might be surprised that even though he is a former Baptist preacher and from Hope, Arkansas, which might otherwise be two big strikes against him in my book, I actually think he is fairly worthy of consideration over the other GOP candidates.

At least he seems sincere, reasoned and informed whereas the others seem more along the lines of your garden variety, ultra-polished, say whatever it takes to get elected, professional snake oil salesmen/politicians.

And though he does carry on sometimes about honor, which in todays races, is usually another big red flag, I have a sense that he may be trustworthy.

The others, including the Democratic front runners? I’m not so sure.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

We provided the umbrella for Iraqi elections, and they chose the Shia.

The Shia are our natural enemies both ideologically and geo-politically, and socio-theologically, and culturally, and they dont wear suits and ties, and they hate mickey mouse.

We bring our democracy to the middle east, and they elect our enemies.

That’s why the invasion was the biggest blunder in world history.

By @@

October 22, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

(((Mr Romney finished top but the results included hundreds of internet votes cast as part of a co-ordinated effort by his campaign to win the poll.)))

(((Some evangelical leaders have threatened to back a third-party candidate, potentially splitting the conservative vote. But most conference-goers vowed to support Mr Giuliani if he wins the nomination because of the importance of stopping Hillary Clinton, the favourite for the Democratic nomination, from becoming president.)))

I saw where ol’ AmVet was over at Wooten’s this weekend whining about how mean conservatives were — pointing out that conservatives should never attempt comedy. PoliFore comes in whining about internet threats against him. Both were proud of the fact that they’ve notified the AJC and legal counsel.

A commonality that intrigues me. AmVet, a Monty Python fan. PoliFore has cited Monty Python as well and BOTH have spammed the blog.

If AmVet gets to speculate that all the party’s faithful are right-wing evangelicals, then I too will speculate.

Is AmVet PoliFore? the S&M guy looking for love in all the wrong places…

They’re both fixated on Senator Craig.

By Craig

October 22, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Am Vet at 11:41 - well said. One of the very few things that oxycontin boy ever said was that in politics, you can generally follow the money.

I recently read something, probably on that awful blog dailykos, about that as it applies to the theocrats. For years they’ve made their money by shrieking about abortion and the dire dangers of ‘mo’s wanting to get married. The poor little old ladies in the church pews had to send them money so they could support good Republicans and defeat evil. Now, all of a sudden, the good Republicans are about to post a guy who - supposedly - is pro choice and pro gay rights.

So now, how will Dobson and crew raise money now?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 22, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

RB,

You are right. Blaming Bush for Katrina is part of that “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”

You never saw the Right make wild claims about that rapist, drug-running, serial-killer who used to occupy the White House.

Now you hear these radical lefties call for impeachment. Don’t they know that you have to have a good reason to impeach a president? Like lying about something really serious. I’d say that Bush is safe from impeachment because, I mean, who would blow Bush?

I mean besides Sen. Larry Craig(R)?

RWNJIFG

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Let us look and see what parts of the WaPo article that al-Gitmo, terrorist mouth piece, has cherry picked over:

{{{{“As the Sunni insurgents quit fighting us, the problems we have with criminality and other militia, many of them Shia, become relatively more important,” said a U.S. Embassy official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity because the plan is not finalized.}}}}

Well, no Shiite.

{{{{The revised plan lays out specifics of the withdrawal of five U.S. combat brigades from Iraq by July 2008 as announced by President Bush last month, but it stresses that any drawdowns hinge on continued security gains — not a timeline.}}}}

In other words, we plan on killing all of the terrorists before we leave. You ain’t gonna wait us out.

{{{{The plan also outlines how U.S. commanders should carry out the transition as Iraqi forces assume greater responsibility for the country’s security while the gradual withdrawal of combat brigades shrinks the U.S. presence.}}}}

Just as planned.

You’re gonna hate 08.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Katrina Part II.

This time it is fire in San Diego.

They are using the football stadium for evacuees.

Ahnold to the rescue.

Geez.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

@@ — do you ever talk about anything other than “alternative” sexual practices and about how great you are?

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

One of the more intriguing aspects about these “social conservatives” (NOW there’s a euphemism if ever there was one!) is that they make for such strange bedfellows with the other “conservative” elements of the GOP.

Their extreme aversion for virtually everything liberal, academic, scientific and progressive makes them the perfect ally for the non-religious hodge podge of far right extremists who share that one over-arching philosophy.

And as irrational as the demagoguery is to most reasonable and centrist Americans, it inexplicably sells very well to those uber extremists who probably could give a rats arse about Jesus, the church or their dogma but are willing to pretend to be faux Judeo-Christians themselves in order to be part of the “conservative” machine.

So it strikes me as odd that in some ways the political parties have had a role reversal from their traditional functions.

For decades the GOP acted as a brake, sometimes effective and sometimes not, against the excesses of liberalism.

Now the Dems are acting in a similar fashion against the ill-conceived excesses of the theocrats in the Republican Party.

Ban abortion, bring back prayer in public schools, outlaw homosexuality, deport 20 million people, willy nilly and pollute the US Constitution with inane amendments defining marriage.

What a hoot.

Someone please advise them that they are DOA again next November.

By gtengineer

October 22, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

craig, i hope the do post giuliani as the republican candidate because it will heavily favor clinton as victor. It will be one of the largest landslides ever.

A man that left the mother of his children for some floozy home wrecker versus a woman grounded in her christian convictions that honored the eternal vow of marriage and stayed with husband through his infidelity.

Honestly he doesn’t have a chance, if any of the christian right even come out they’ll have to vote for hillary or they’ll be their own hypocrite.

By RE

October 22, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

We moved NATO onto Russia’s front porch, ignored her valid interests and concerns, and, with our “indispensable-nation” arrogance, treated her as a defeated power, as France treated Weimar Germany after Versailles.

Who restarted the Cold War? Bush and the braying hegemonists he brought with him to power. Great empires and tiny minds go ill together.

Pat Buchanan. No other pundit or writer has the clarity Pat does on foriegn policy. Check out any one of his columns, dead on.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Blowhard AmVet,

Please advise who is trying to “outlaw homosexuality”. When you’ve done that, please advise what is “inane” about defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

Thanks in advance.

By @@

October 22, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Giuliani’s stance on abortion falls right in line with the Republican Platform of 2004. AmVet keeps wanting to ignore this fact:

(((Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose abortion, but ————>our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services, and we commend Congressional Republicans for expanding assistance to adopting families and for removing racial barriers to adoption.<————)))

Hell, even Ralph Nader, AmVet’s preferred choice said the Republicans have no intention of overturning Rowe v. Wade.

On same-sex marriage Rudy said that there is no need for an amendment at this time. When the states begin seeking such legislation in increased numbers, then it will be time for the amendment and not before.

Rudy still works for me.

For the poster who just can’t resist responding to my posts…

I did not know that sticking steel wool up “your” twinkie (whoever he is) and twisting it to inflict pain was an “alternative” sex practice. Sounds like torture to me, but then I wouldn’t know anything about that kind of “alternative” maybe said poster could enlighten us?

By Gary

October 22, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Well said, AmVet. These Repub misfits are responsible for nearly all that is wrong w Americana today. They are proud of their hatred, bitterness, failure, jealousy, repressiveness, ignorance, so much more.

They wear it all much like a convict’s uniform in the prisonhouse of the human spirit.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

You mean Arnold is able to do something for the people of his own state without sitting around with his thumb up his a@@ waiting for GWB to save his people? Funny how he’s able to do that, the governor of Mississippi was able to do that, the Governor of Florida was able to do that, but the governor of LA wasn’t (along with Chocolate Neagin).

Global warming question for you… What happened to the alarmist from 30 years ago who said we were headed for another ice age? Were they wrong?

And to all who predicted “17 major hurricanes” this season because of global warming, what happened to them? And last year too? Hmmmmm. This hurricane thing seems kinda random to me…

By BR from Cobb

October 22, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Oh My GOD!!! The stupid brain dead liberals are at it again. The big science pushers! Big laugh.

Hey lib, go get a birthday candle then light it. Let it get going real good. Now blow on it and see what happens.

It went out, didn’t it genious?

This Al Gore type “theory” the liberal media is pushing along with the dumbo liberals that wind can cause fire in California just goes to show you what a bunch of hot air this global warming theory crowd has built up. RIDICULOUS! HA!

WIND DOES NOT CAUSE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!

GLOBAL WARMING is P R E T E N D ! ! !

idiots.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

BD is RW or his clone and that is just plain weird man.

Geez.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 22, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Wind may not cause fire but it can certainly accelerate its ferocity.

Fire does thrive on oxygen u know

By RE

October 22, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

BR,

I am hoping the post was meant to be Ironic.

Wind does not cause fire, true, but if a forest fire is already going, a strong wind will spread it more rapidly. You do know that don’t you?

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Craig, the “faithful” in the GOP are in a very, very difficult spot.

They know they’ve been used by the leaders of that party, in that even the most rabid Republicans know they are looking at political suicide by too strongly advocating these extreme measures.

So they bide their time and try to back door their agenda with executive signing orders, and other quasi-legal aberrations and to stack the Supreme Court with “strict constructionist” judges who just happen to have pictures of Roy Moore on their walls!

So, in a semi-transparent and desperate move to appear more rational and centrist, these neo-con politicians dance on the line and give lip service to these repulsive ideas, cloaked in terms like “family values” and “compassionate conservatism”.

And it is these failed notions straight from the “base” that the nation will no longer tolerate nor quietly accept though a huge part of their dogma driven lunacy.

But based on the path they’ve followed religiously (get it!) since Reagan, the GOP is going to be hard pressed to win without them or their dollars.

Too bad, so sad.

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

{{{{BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Violence in Iraq has dropped by 70 percent since the end of June, when U.S. forces completed their build-up of 30,000 extra troops to stabilize the war-torn country, the Interior Ministry said on Monday.}}}}

By RE

October 22, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Careful John in Tampa,

Some of the folks on here, if they found out that fire requires oxygen will take that to mean we need more CO2 in the atmosphere to limit the amount of forest fires.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Ahnold is forcing evacuations but the people will not leave until the last second which was hard to do when you are surrounded by water.

He may be right because it will be hard to evacuate surrounded by fire don’t ya think? This is Ahnold’s katrina.

By gtengineer

October 22, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

rb/br…

well the insanity you’re preaching is thankfully only believed by <1% of the entire worlds population… that being the insane bush loving christian fascist movement

these are the same people that permanently keep Dubyas approval rating from dipping below 30%

didya hear the NORTHWEST PASSAGE is passable for the first time in human history? didya hear that CO2 absorption rates by the ocean have been observed to be steadily declining?

well certainly there will always be those “crazies” like you that detract from every proven scientific fact.

somehow 43% of america is still stupid enough to believe in some imaginary invisible man in the sky, yet those of us with any intelligence know better.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 22, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Hey Amvet:

It is 90 today with high humidity but at least the sun is out.

By BAMF from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

If George Bush had a brain would he wile away the hours talking to the flowers?

If George Bush had a heart would he still be on his mettle as an empty kettle?

Is George Bush still denying that he’s a dandylion, ‘cuz he hasn’t got the nerve?

If BUSH were King of the Forest— would rabbits genuflect to him? and chipmonks show respect to him?

Does this all sound ridiculous?

Sadly, not as ridiculous as the reality of George Bush. And all Republi-kins!

Follow the yellow cake road!

By getalife

October 22, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile, w is begging for another 42 billion to waste in Iraq.

Geez.

By @@

October 22, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

RB from Gwinnett:

Please — (((sitting around with his thumb up his a@@)))

liberals would be more receptive to a$$ seeing how they want some of your $$.

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

OK, John. Reality sets in as you Floridians well know.

While you enjoy another nice day in Hillsborough County, the weather in Atlanta has turned decidely less sunny.

Rainy and 65ish here isn’t all that bad, but this is probably a harbinger of even drearier days ahead.

But we are absolutely desperate for rain here and LOTS of it. As you may know the drought here has hit epic proportions and sadly, I feel this too may be a harbinger of things to come.

I know, I know. I’m probably just another hapless uninformed victim of the big liberal conspiracy of more droughts from a warming earth. And all in an effort to ruin the economy of the USA.

When I was visiting St. Augustine a few weeks ago there were also big news stories regarding water use and the developers in Orlando who want to siphon off gargantuan amounts from the St. Johns.

Wake up people. If you think spot oil shortages cause pain, just watch what happens when it’s water we’re talking about.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

{{{By gtengineer

October 22, 2007 1:48 PM

didya hear the NORTHWEST PASSAGE is passable for the first time in human history?}}}

Gosh, I wonder why they call it the Northwest PASSAGE then?

Sought by explorers for centuries as a possible trade route, it was first navigated by Roald Amundsen in 1903-6.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

How can you tell which blogger is gay? Easy! She’s the flaming nick jacker.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

By gtengineer October 22, 2007 1:48 PM

Everybody believed the ice age was coming again 30 years ago too, based on the irrefutable findings of the same scientist who have predicted it this time. Spare me the theatrics. The “proven scientific fact” is not proven any more than the freeze was. There are lots of theories and lots of people making data say a lot of things, but none of it is proven.

So what is keeping congress’ approval rating at half that of the presidents, Einstien? Nancy not doing very well?

Regarding the 43%, are you referring to God? If you are, I have 2 questions for you…

When that first living being willed itself to life, what did it eat? There was no other living anything to nourish it.

For evolution to occur, there must be an addition to the DNA string. Science has NEVER witnessed a random addition to the DNA chain of any living thing. They have witnessed deletions to the chain (birth defects, liberalism, as examples), but not additions. Please explain…

By Abe

October 22, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

BR. STFU. Nobody wants your slimy ignorant utterings, coward. Worry that someone may stick a Cobb up yer * and tickle your empty brain.

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

This month’s National Geographic has a wonderfully informative article (do they ever have any that aren’t?) regarding Meeting the Climate Challenge.

Though the debate rages on, one thing is absolutely and incontrovertibly certain - the increasingly accurate information available to everybody, regarding this situation is growing every day.

One cannot turn anywhere these days, it seems, without the topic being discussed, analyzed and referenced by innumerable publications, news outlets and legitimate, respected, credible scientific sources.

And this is great news for mankind.

This is the very scientific model at work on a grand scale.

The more accurate information people, including scientists and experts, have from a wide variety of sources, the better they are able to make informed choices and decisions.

And, of course, this knowledge and information is extremely bad news for the dwindling nay-sayers who, like it or not, are every single day being more marginalized, discredited and repudiated by an ever growing number of relevant people and respected, experienced organizations.

This fact is irrefutable.

If you don’t already subscribe, go buy a copy of this month’s National Geographic.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

How can you tell which airline passenger is the metro-sexual terrorist? Easy! He’s the one putting the zippo to his …..ugh, d’oh….aarghhhh

The AJC refuses to allow this idiot to blog one more joke about terrorists. It’s not funny, and enough is enough.

We return control of the blog to the normal, decent folk…

By RE

October 22, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

the next sentence:

Sought by explorers for centuries as a possible trade route, it was first navigated by Roald Amundsen in 1903-6. The Arctic pack ice prevents regular marine shipping throughout the year, but due to climate change, the pack ice is being reduced and may eventually make the waterways more navigable

see, it used to be frozen over, now it isn’t

By RE

October 22, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

RB,

First orginisms were most likely algae that provided nuroishment via photosynthesis. Sunlight is the energy source.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

{{{see, it used to be frozen over, now it isn’t.}}

RE,

Gtech said that no one in the history of mankind had ever navigated it, which was false.

Only a bunch of moonbats who run around wearing polar bear costumes would complain about this.

We may also have access to more oil!

HORRORS!!!!

By georgia74

October 22, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

I just read about another Repug who got caught trolling in a bathroom, great example you guys set for our youth.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Global warming? Study planet formation. We have nine planets to look at. We can see what went wrong with eight of them. We can deduce what’s happening with ours, the right planet, the good planet, the planet with all the water, and mean temperatures that stay within reasonable limits for hundreds of thousands of years, certainly longer than modern man who’s only been here for 75000 years give or take.

So did we mix our DNA with the Neanderthal or did we simply kill them off, so that they wouldn’t impurify our precious bodily fluids? I dont know, every time I read something from the anthropologists, the contradict what I read before.

It’s like looking through a telescope at light that’s 12 billion years old. Take a quasar, please. Now if earth is only 5 billion years old, and light travels at the speed of light, then how did we get here in front of and ahead of the quasar’s light that was formed 12 billion years ago? Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. So how can we see light that should be 7 billion light years past us? 12-5=7

By RE

October 22, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

BD, why did the ice melt in the NW passage?

I thought that it was not getting warmer and it was all a prank by Al Gore?

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

The Atlanta Urinal Constitution, in cooperation with Al Qaeda, is pleased to bring you the following blessed message from the safety of Has Bin’s cave:

{{{{“Some of you have been lax in one duty, which is to unite your ranks,” bin Laden said in the audiotape. “Beware of division … The Muslim world is waiting for you to gather under one banner.”}}}}

Now go out and blow yourselves up.

You little kowards.

Bwa.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Hillary 08

By RE

October 22, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

the light from 12 billion years ago is moving away from us, or we are moving away from it.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t Blowhard AmVet bloviating about how nice liberals are compared to conservatives earlier? What are the odds that this was done by a conservative?

An all-American kid from a little all-American town, the 22-year-old Marine lance corporal died heroically in Iraq. More than a thousand people turned out Wednesday as a white hearse carried his body to burial in the historic 1800s Cooke Memorial Cemetery./Within hours, the grave was desecrated. About 30 sprays of flowers were ripped apart, petals strewn over the loose earth. Flags decorating the gravesite were also torn down and sentimental notes and posters shredded./”It looked like a big debris field about 40 feet square,” said Liberty Police Chief Mike Cummings. “This wasn’t done by the wind or animals. It was obviously intentional. We don’t know if someone did this for a stupid prank or they were anti-war or what.”

One of the comments is from someone who thinks it was probably done by a feral hog. Guaranteed that person is a Moonbat and would be a good candidate for “No warming, No War!” marches. Just send him a polar bear suit and he’ll be ready to go.

Another comment is made by a Dad with 2 sons in Iraq. He was warned not to write any letters to the editor lest the it unleash the passions of violent “peace-activists”.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

RE,

No one is saying that it isn’t getting warmer. How many times do we have to repeat that?

The cause of the warming is what we dispute, along with the ludicrous idea that the Earth’s temperature was just perfect 100 years ago but now it’s sick.

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

RE, it seems to me this unusual collection of nay-sayers fall into two main categories.

First, is the crowd who denies there is even a global warming issue as evidenced by strange attempts for example, to “show” that the NW Passage was as “ice-free” centuries ago as it is today.

These are almost always just dismissed by knowledgeable scientists and experts as laughable.

Then there is the crowd who begrudgingly agrees that the earth is indeed warming, but that volcanoes, changes in the Sun’s orbit around the Earth (screw Galileo and Copernicus!) or cow farts are the main reasons.

These are even more laughable.

Throw in the evangelists who literally believe all the animals were loaded onto the ark two by two and you have one helluva incompetent voice to argue the credibility of their position!

And I would venture to say that like myself, most rational people around the world see their “anti everything liberal” bent as their true, perhaps only motivation.

Certainly, not scientific accuracy or the welfare of this planet’s occupants.

But it does not matter. These ostriches will have no lasting influence on the scientific conclusions and therefore the answers to addressing these enormous problems.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

RE,

Hopefully, soon, the rapture will come and take all these loonies away so we can live in peace.

Don’t you love those bumper stickers: “In case of rapture, this car will be unmanned.” Don’t you think those people should have their driving privledges revoked? I mean don’t you think that’s kind of dangerous?

By jacksonwolff

October 22, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

BD-

Maybe it was those wackos from topeka, KS. Ya know Fred Phelps and his happy family. You know they LOVE to picket the funerals of fallen troops and scream GOD HATES AMERICA.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Algae, eh? Single cell? So what came together to form a single celled living thing on it’s own?

It’s a good “theory”, but a bit irrational, don’t you think? It wasn’t there one minute, then it was??

Anything on the DNA question?

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Great news for mankind, but it’s not from National Geographic.

Someone has figured out that if you pollute the air with the carbon soot or old tires we could re-direct hurricanes and spare highly populate areas.

I wonder if this genius will get the Nobel Prize next year.

By @@

October 22, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

I like National Geographic since they point out that all things are relative.

Global Warming Good for Greenland?

(((Rapid thawing brought on by global warming on the world’s largest island has opened up new opportunities for agriculture, commercial fishing, mining, and oil exploration.)))

So what’s the worst thing they’ll have to endure? Progress and a loss of traditional culture.

Sound familiar?

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Algae, eh? Single cell? So what came together to form a single celled living thing on it’s own?

It’s a good “theory”, but a bit irrational, don’t you think? It wasn’t there one minute, then it was??

Anything on the DNA question?

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

So now Muffin is using a “something happened, it must be those peace-lovers” argument? Is this b!tch really that desperate?

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 22, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

i had rapture once. man did my testicles hurt.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

{{{First, is the crowd who denies there is even a global warming issue as evidenced by strange attempts for example, to “show” that the NW Passage was as “ice-free” centuries ago as it is today.}}}

Who has done that pray tell? NO ONE?

{{{Then there is the crowd who begrudgingly agrees that the earth is indeed warming, but that volcanoes, changes in the Sun’s orbit around the Earth (screw Galileo and Copernicus!) or cow farts are the main reasons.}}}

Uh, it was a U.N. report that blamed it on farting livestock and it was people like me who ridiculed that report.

What Galileo and Copernicus have to do with any of this reach depths of stupidity I won’t even try to fathom.

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Read the bald faced lie being pushed at the National Geographic:

{{{{According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, eleven of the twelve hottest years since thermometer readings became available occurred between 1995 and 2006.}}}}

Uh, wrong:

{{{{According to H. Sterling Burnett, a senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA), NASA scientist and famous man-made global warming proponent James Hansen’s well-known claims that 1998 was measured as the warmest year on record in the U.S. were the result of a serious mathematical error. NASA has now corrected that error, and 1934 is now known as the warmest year on record, with 1921 the third warmest year instead of 2006 as was also previously claimed.}}}}

If you have a brain and know how to use it, this should be obvious:

{{{{Unlike mid-latitude glaciers, which are warmed and melted by surrounding air in the summer, ice loss on Kilimanjaro is driven strictly by solar radiation. Since air near the mountain’s ice is almost always well below freezing, there is typically no true melting. Instead, ice loss is mainly through sublimation – the same irritating process (whereby ice goes directly to vapour, without going through a liquid phase) that causes the ice-cubes in your freezer to shrink, so that when you finally need them for that must-have gin and tonic, there’s almost nothing left. Sublimation requires more than eight times as much energy as melting.}}}}

Gosh, does this mean solar radiation is increasing and that’s why the climate on Mars is also warming?

Idiot libs, morons.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

Don’t forget the moose too.

By BAMF from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Could it be that there is a genetic mistake in GOPers?

One amino acid short of a full sequence?

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Woops, make that highly “populated” areas at 3:03.

jacksonwolff,

Yeah, Fred Phelps is a Democrat, so you may be right!

By Hey John

October 22, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Whats with the lower-case letters?

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Any normal person would deduce that the odds are that it was an “anti-war” activist who did this but if you like that feral hogs theory, GFY!

By getalife

October 22, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

“Dodd screws up:

Senator Chris Dodd on Thursday single-handedly blocked a bill to legalize unconstitutional spying and immunize criminals who have engaged in it. But by doing so, Dodd may have made the biggest blunder Washington has seen in many months. He advertised the fact that a single senator with nerve has the power to block a bill, including – of course – every bill to further fund the occupation of Iraq. Now, how will Dodd explain his past and future failure to use the same power to end the war that he has used to end warrantless spying? How will other senators, including Harry Reid, explain their own failure? How will Nancy Pelosi manage to keep asserting in every conversation that only 67 senators can end a war?”

Ooops, must be running for President and getting desperate.

Geez.

By jacksonwolff

October 22, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

UM, could you source you claim that Phelps, the minister of Westboro Baptist Church, is a democrat? I have a hard time with that claim, I would think he fall more into the “no party affiliation” crowd.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 22, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Back to the toon. with the exception of Henry County, have any of the local counties in the Atl metro area constructed any reservoirs in the last 10-15 tears?

I would think a bunch of 500-1000 acre reservoirs located throughout the area would be beneficial.

Besides water they would also provide much needed recreational areas.

Maybe instead of relying on the army corp of eng we should become more self-sufficient.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Yes yes, Muffin, we know. There there, honey, why not just take some more lithium and forget all about those big bad protesters? It’ll make you feel better, and balanced, and happy.

By RE

October 22, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Yep, single cell orginisms begot multi cell orginisms which begot multi cell orginisms with funtional groups (tissues) and on and on getting more complicated in order to propogate.

So far as the DNA thing goes, I would take a look at Mitochondrial DNA. Amazing thing, the mitochondria inside everyone of your cells actually has it’s own seperate and distinct genetic code. The theory goes that the mitochondria was originally an independent orginism that eventually had a symbiotic relationship with larger orginisms. It eventually became a part of the larger orginism. Mitochondria are, I believe, found within every living plant and animal, and still have a seperate genetic code.

By the way, what would you alternate theory be to evolution?

By jacksonwolff

October 22, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

BD- just looked up Phelps on wikipedia, YOU WERE RIGHT!!!

But just because he is registered as a Democrat, dosen’t mean that he is anti war, just anti-american.

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Listen to the Treason Times whine about the Drudge Report:

{{{{The site is a potent combination of real scoops, gossip and innuendo aimed at Mr. Drudge’s targets of choice — some of it delivered with no apparent effort to determine its truth, as politicians of all stripes have discovered at times.}}}}

Coming from the biggest liars in the whole world that sure takes the freaking cake.

Poor wittle pinkos, ahhh.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

RB,

I’m sorry, but are you calling evolution an irrational theory?

I don’t think evolution works that way, I think it takes a long time to work. See, that’s the problem with some folks, it’s not instantaneous, like microwave popcorn, you have to wait a while for things to develop.

And, please correct me if I’m wrong, but not just one thing evolves over time, I think your “one thing” that woke up one day and wanted to live, probably had other things that woke up and wanted the same thing.

Now, if you are calling evolution an irrational theory, what is rational to you to explain how we got where we are?

By BAMF from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Fred Phelps was a democrat.

Adolf Hitler was a Christian.

So?

By getalife

October 22, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Man, it is flooding down here.

Hey, ya’ll want to buy some water?

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

John, LMAO on that 3:06!

You know one of the many interesting things about these blogs is how many of the participants here are so invested in being absolute correct about everything they write that they will go to such extraordinary lengths.

I mean, who but the most immature would get their panties in such an enormous twist about ANY of this stuff, that they come to literally hate their opponents and so consistently rely on insults and juvenile venom as a valued “debating” tool?

(Hey! New book idea, Debating tools for Tools!)

Let’s face it, none of us are paleontologists, climatologists, economists, political scientists or even remotely experts regarding the many other things we discuss here. Though a few fancy themselves as such.

But we can all read, learn and inform ourselves to the extent of our individual limitations.

I personally don’t write what I do to try and persuade or influence any who oppose me. It is neither practical not worthwhile IMHO.

And as you can probably tell, I choose to only engage those who will have discourse on an adult level, and who can show the self-discipline to avoid all juvenile, personal slurs, name calling and attacks, no matter how great their passion is on ANY topic.

I truly wish there were more here who fit this criteria of mine, as I believe that opposing viewpoints, well reasoned and well stated, can be the most valuable. And it is from those, that I look even closer at my own.

Nor do I write to win any popularity contests here or seek support for my opinions, though numerous people over time have spoken up on my behalf and I always truly appreciate them for doing so. Some are complete blogging strangers.

Rather it is this very brotherhood of like-minded souls exchanging ideas and information that gives me the most enjoyment for now.

And I am glad you have joined this gang as your humor and insight are to be valued, at least by this blogger!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 22, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

LuckoDuh,

With respect to your Bin Laden post, would you explain to these libs why getting these messages from Bin Laden 6 years, one month and 11 days after 9/11 demonstrates Bush’s success in the War on Terror? I don’t think they get it. You know, because they are stupid libs.

If a Democrat were in power he would have been at large like 15 years by now.

My point to the libs is that Bush said he wanted Bin Laden “Dead or Alive” and he certainly is the latter so I call that success. If he had said that he wanted him dead or captured then that would be a complete failure obviously, but he never said that. Bush was clear that he would be perfectly happy if Bin Laden were alive.

BTW: For all of those people out there who think that the right would be totally in hysterics if a Democrat had taken this long to capture or kill Bin Laden they are probably right, but that would be a completely different set of facts. First of all, the liberals claim that Government can do some things right. We have never said that and we prove it to be true every day we are in charge of it. If you aren’t convinced at the ineptitude of Government you clearly haven’t been paying attention these last 7 years.

RWNJIFG

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Bosch, though I grew up in very rural Kansas (I know, I know, I’ve heard all of the jokes!) and spent time around some very aromatic herds, I am no expert on bovine flatulence.

But a moose fart? Now that is a horse of different color altogether!

It must be extra pungent! Do we have any Canadians here with relevant experience on this matter?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Can I make a reference without someone copying it just once please?

hillary 08

By @@

October 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Speaking of antis — after reading about the protests against the World Bank in Georgetown last week I dropped into a website put up for members of NEAN, the global anti-capitalist organization.

It was hilarious. The site’s host was accusing one of his more reasonable contributors of being a fed spying on his site. Back and forth…back and forth they went until some anti-capitalist came in screaming IN ALL CAPS that it was time to arm themselves and take out the capitalist pigs.

Strange and violent people they are!

Violence does little for protesters’ cause

I couldn’t agree more. One of them hurled a brick at some poor store clerk leaving her with a gaping wound in her forehead and a broken nose.

Wonder how she feels about their cause? Not very sympathetic I would imagine.

By mm

October 22, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, you are lowlife scum.

Duh, did you borrow RW’s jet suit and fly to Mars and take a temperature reading?

Last time I checked it was a blistering -45 degrees F on Mars.

Lunatic, the sun is not getting hotter.

By Craig also

October 22, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Hey RWNJ, the main reason I hang around this place is to read your stuff, as well as Captain Freedom and Redneck Convert …

Thanks…

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

The sun is a star. It could explode at any second keeling everyone within 5 quintquadrillion light years. So stand back.

Did you all know that a light year is a measurement of distance, not speed?

Who knew that? and Why is it important?

(hint: Einsteein’s E=MC2 and Newtons E=1/mc2)

By getalife

October 22, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

“Secondly, the tactics of our - as you know, we don’t have relationships with Iran.
I mean, that’s - ever since the late ’70s, we have no contacts with them,
and we’ve totally sanctioned them. In other words, there’s no sanctions - you can’t - we’re out of sanctions.”
— Dubya, trying his best to make sense.

Like I said, she has a brain and can speak English.

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

October 22, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Comic Relief

By getalife

October 22, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

They didn’t mention gay marriage on the debate either.

My partner and I are strongly considering it.

Better do it quick.

Geez.

By Craig also

October 22, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

As well as AmVet and Getalife and Bosch - as a most of the time lurker - it’s fascinating to read your intelligent comments compared with the pearls of wisdom from some of the bushbots hereabouts.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Getalife, we all get the bit about Bush. Everyone can write jokes all day long simply by quoting Bush’s actual texts. We get it. Funny! Clever! Insightful! You get the blog of the day award.

Now here’s a cookie. good boy.

alles sprechen der murunheimer

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

jacksonwolf, there is much more to the infamous and fellow Jayhawker Fred Phelps story that some here predictably and conveniently fail to include.

Read what he had to say about the Gores, Clintons, et al.

As you can imagine there will be numerous references to f@gs, p!mps, etc…

The Dems in Kansas somewhat inexplicably said they had no real idea what this nut job was all about at the time and that he played him self off as something completely other than the dirt bag that he truly is.

I’m not sure but that this is more of an indictment against these apparently gullible Kansans!

But make no mistake about it, he is definitely not your garden variety Democrat.

But a social conservative? Hmmmmm…..

By getalife

October 22, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

$330 million a day wasted in Iraq.

Your kids will pay this debt so lets cut their health care.

Geez.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

The Gop doesn’t like me because I’m gay.

Meanwhile, our troops are dying.

I wish I could swab the deck with them.

Geez.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

PF,

I think you should post here

Wanker.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

(M)ental (M)idget,

I’m lowlife scum? Awwwwww. You must not like being called out on your (M)endacious (M)isinformation because I can’t think of a single thing I’ve said today that would inspire such rage in you.

rushncap,

You’re the one who seems to be buying the feral hogs argument, and you’re the perpetually angry young man who employs violent imagery, so if anyone needs a stabilizing drug, It’s quite obvious that you’re the candidate, not me, Munchkin.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Muffin — please point me in the direction of me talking about “feral hogs”. Thanks in advance, and do take a double dose of lithium.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Right Wing Scum.

I’m gay and I’m proud.

Geez.

By @@

October 22, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Ireland’s Independent on Fred Phelps:

(((He became actively involved in local and national politics, fundraising for Democratic candidates and running for governor of Kansas several times. His eldest son hosted a fundraiser for Al Gore at his house (which was attended by Gore) and the Phelps family were invited to both of Bill Clinton’s inaugurations.)))

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

October 22, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

-=-

“As for Bush, he’s a world calamity,” added Lessing. “Everyone is tired of this man. Either he is stupid or he is very clever, although you have to remember he is a member of a social class which has profited from wars.”

—

Ahh the rain is good - but it won’t restore enough water —-

Sonny should have continued Barnes’s program for more Water Resevoirs —

And people should attach rain barrels to their houses rain ducts for watering the lawn instead of using municipal water.

Cheers’

Thomas

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

In this day and age where twisted and sometimes meaningless slogans and sound bites are used in lieu of proper verbiage, one of my pet peeves is the use of the misnamed term “pro-life”.

Why not just call it what it truly is? Anti-abortion.

Oh yeah. That doesn’t sell as well.

Unless one is completely against capital punishment (Romney is not) and perhaps even for the ending of all military killings, they are just exercising in mental masturbation.

I now fully expect the least literate here to try and put words in my mouth and say I’m equating murderers and terrorists with human fetuses. Any bets on it happening?

{{The doctor known as the founder of the pro-life movement has endorsed former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination.

Dr. John Wilke, an original member of Senator Sam Brownback’s Exploratory Committee, has thrown his support to Romney in the wake of Senator Brownback’s withdrawal from the race.

“Unlike other candidates who only speak to the importance of confronting the major social issues of the day, Governor Romney has a record of action in defending life,” Dr. Willke said. “Every decision he made as governor was on the side of life. I know he will be the strong pro-life president we need in the White House, Governor Romney is the only candidate who can lead our pro-life and pro-family conservative movement to victory in 2008.”}}

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Hillary 08

By getalife

October 22, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

“Macho, Macho, Man!!!!”

“Bush wants to be a Macho Man!”

Not in this world sweetie.

To many good looking alternatives.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Sorry you’re having so much trouble keeping up today. Maybe it’s time to work on your productivity.

Blowhard,

If you’d prefer to be labeled “Pro-Abortion” we can arrange that for you. Indeed, I think Hillary should run on that!

By RE

October 22, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Bush awards medal of honor

Bush asks for more money

Is there any question the GWB only acts out of political expediency. No shame at all. To immediately use the occasion of honoring a CMH on a fallen soldier to request additional funds. He will use anything as a prop, fallen soldiers, fallen buildings, no shame at all.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, Muff, were you saying something about masturbation? Do tell, do tell… Or are you too much of a “lady” (read: b!tch) to say that dirty word out loud?

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

So the ice on Mount Kilimanjaro cannot possibly be melting due to “man made” global warming because the atmosphere at that elevation is always below freezing temperature and the only other possible cause can be increased radiation from the Sun, the ONLY possible cause, now apply this knowledge to the atmosphere warming down here at ground level.

It is totally definitive and indisputable proof that the Sun is the cause of global warming and man has next to nothing to do with it.

You would think that the c** sure arrogant liberals would at least take a stab at disproving this fact, after all, they are in a “consensus” and the “debate is over.”

Nope, as usual, this is all I get back from the supposed “intellects:”

{{{{By m is for moron October 22, 2007 3:50 PM Lunatic, the sun is not getting hotter.}}}}

{{{{By AmVet October 22, 2007 3:35 PM I mean, who but the most immature would get their panties in such an enormous twist about ANY of this stuff, that they come to literally hate their opponents and so consistently rely on insults and juvenile venom as a valued “debating” tool? Blah, blah, blah, blah}}}}

I win!

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am I am. I got married to the Willy next door. He freed Willy seven times with ho’s. and everyone was a monica, he couldn’t flash a dorothy or a pam, I just hate my old man I’m hillary….hillary 08 I am!

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Bush Wants $46 Billion More for Wars

{WASHINGTON — President Bush will ask Congress for another $46 billion to fund the war in Iraq.}

Yep, that is $46 billion with a B.

{The figure, which Bush was expected to announce later Monday at the White House, brings to $196.4 billion the total requested by the administration for operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere for the budget year that started Oct. 1.}

yep, thats $196 billion with a B.

{The figures were disclosed by congressional officials briefed on the request and who spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement had not yet been made.}

To date, Congress has already provided more than $455 billion for the Iraq war, with stepped-up military operations running about $10 billion a month. The war has claimed the lives of more than 3,830 members of the U.S. military and more than 73,000 Iraqi civilians.

NEARLY HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS and counting.

3830 Americans KIA and counting.

73,000 Iraqi civilians and counting.

SUPPORT THE TROOPS, NOT THE WAR.

By RE

October 22, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Nat Geographic:

There’s a tendency for people to take this temperature increase and draw quick conclusions, which is a mistake,” said Douglas R. Hardy, a climatologist at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, who monitored Kilimanjaro’s glaciers from mountaintop weather stations since 2000. “The real explanations are much more complex. Global warming plays a part, but a variety of factors are really involved.”

According to Hardy, forest reduction in the areas surrounding Kilimanjaro, and not global warming, might be the strongest human influence on glacial recession. “Clearing for agriculture and forest fires—often caused by honey collectors trying to smoke bees out of their hives—have greatly reduced the surrounding forests,” he says. The loss of foliage causes less moisture to be pumped into the atmosphere, leading to reduced cloud cover and precipitation and increased solar radiation and glacial evaporation.

Thats what I got. So what do you have that tells you the sun is getting hotter?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Amwet, that’s last year’s story. You are a better blogger than this. Why stay behind the curve? Why state the already conceded?

We have to do better than that people, or we’ll lose the four people a day who read this blog.

I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am, I am. I got married to a hillbilly next door, he’s freed Willy seven times with ho’s and everyone was a monica, he wouldn’t flash a dorothy or a pam, I really hate my man I’m Hillary, Hillary 08 I am.

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad October 22, 2007 4:27 PM And people should attach rain barrels to their houses rain ducts for watering the lawn instead of using municipal water.}}}}

They call those “downspouts” not rain ducts, dumbas-s.

Are you liberals completely helpless?

By the way, the average Conservative capitalist knows how freaking ignorant the common liberal is, so the cost of one of these rain barrels, a cheap plastic drum, is now over a hundred dollars.

I got mine for free, hahahaha, and I ain’t telling where.

Bwa.

By getalife

October 22, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.

— Glenn Beck, The Glenn Beck Program

Damn.

By gtengineer

October 22, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish apparently sees nothing wrong with oceans ice melting that has always existed!

sure you could pass it… with an icebreaking ship and about 5 years just like amundsen…

sail til the ICE BLOCKS YOU… then port for 8 months of the year… sail another 100 miles if you are lucky… port… you get the idea.

…but the fact that clear unobstructed passage is now possible for a non-stop trip doesn’t mean anything is wrong?

well i would ignore someone arguing that the earth is flat or that evolution isn’t absolute fact… but shooting you down is worth the 5 minutes of time. Given your elementary school level science knowledge i’ll explain what a scientist is:

sci·en·tist (sī’ən-tĭst) Pronunciation Key n. A person having expert knowledge of one or more sciences, especially a natural or physical science.

see the world has lots of them that went to school for a long time studying their chosen specialty. And the world over there are millions of them. They think global warming is scientific fact as do the majority of the worlds people.

I’m sure you think listening to rush ‘oxycotin’ limbaugh makes you an expert on this, but regurgitating his weak arguments verbatim only makes you an obviously misguided southern boy.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Productivity means something very different to you than me, Munchkin. Indeed, I’d venture to guess that there are not too many people who share your particular view on the topic and when productivity levels are reported by the government your theory is never included as a component in the data.

I do enjoy seeing you get enraged and providing me with another occasion to laugh at you.

RE,

You’re right, deforestation also affects the temperature of Mt. Kilimanjaro. As for the sun getting hotter, pick a story, any story.

You’re welcome!

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

It would be impossible for the sun to get hotter. The chain reactions that keep the sun from imploding are taking place at a steady rate and the temperature can vary only one standard deviation from the mean or else it would mean that we couldn’t sell magazines or advertising space when we talk so ignorantly about the sun, which nobody knows anything about, not really.

But we like to assure ourselves that we are in control. People are so afraid. It doesn’t take much to set them off. This war is a mistake because it is a rise in the temperature of the sum of the people’s total stress. Day after day more war and more war and OMG what’s gonna happen…etc.

This war is going to ruin us. It’s already lasted longer than the thirty years war, the hundred years war and the thousand year reich combined!

Why doesn’t somebody do something? What are you all, tin pundits? Robo-bloggers? Auto-malaprops?

By Gary

October 22, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

AmVet. Amazing! I’ve known Dr. Wilke since the late early 1970’s, at which time called on him as a pharma company rep dozens of times in Cincinnati. He was courteous back then, but very, very strange. Then came his all out crusade for anti-abortion. It just grew and grew and the intolerance was just overwhelming. Cincy is the perfect city and surely the most right-wing in the nation. Always been that way. Charley Keating of the infamous S&L scandal out West was an attorney & my next-door neighbor. In the late 50’s he started “Citizens For Decency.” It grew into the country’s largest anti-porn, phoney religious operation of them all. w a slight name change. Still headquartered in Cincy today. Also in Cincy began the first nest of “Citizens For Community Values” which has also spread throughout the nation. Headquartered in Cincy. In the 70’s, several of us often gathered at the office of an attorney buddy which was directly across the hall from Keating’s office. Every other Thursday night a group would gather in Keating’s office to “examine” porn films. Physical freaks! We took some fun candid photos of them & had a ball w them in Cincy. Gawd, I could list names, events, behavior galore. Several of these Cincy freaks were appointed to Ray-Gun’s/Meese’s “porn commission.” Sooo much history and fact and documentation available on all this. The guy who started “Community Values” (His name will come to me in 5 minutes) repeatedly admitted to the ultra-conservative Cincy Enquirer that he had spent 15 years in his house (married w children) and his car, masturbating to the Sunday newspaper ads for girls’ underwear and swimsuits. EVERY day, EVERY week. “Then I got into the REALLY HARD STUFF - Playboy and Penthouse. Masturbating to THAT as well.” (sic) (It’s all still there in the Enquirer archives. Today the guy is on numerous church boards, Cincy business boards, library boards, and a frequent guest in Bush’s White House, as well as frequent speaker to Congress re that “DREADED PORN.” How’s that for credentials?? Gee, I’m glad you brought it up! I don’t spend much time here - too much right-wing filth. But let me know if you want details. Small world, eh. (Gotta remember THE MASTUBATING HERO’S name! Will pass it on.

By gtengineer

October 22, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

i’ll make my prediction now…

hillary/obama ticket 69% of vote giuliani/DOLE ticket 30% of vote Dubya write in ballots 1% of vote

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

October 22, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

-=-

Analchord —-

Our sun is small — less than 8 solar masses. Therefore we really don’t have to worry about our sun ever going supernova.

However it may turn into a red giant someday. That would pretty much toast planet earth to a crispy molten ball of lava in no time. most all teh planets in our solar system would be gone.

Lets just hope Andy is wrong about the sun being the cause for global warming, because if it is — then the sky really is falling and “The End is Nigh’!”…

If global warming is man-made then lets do something about it - besides cleaning up teh environment is still a good thing for mankind. — if Global warming is not man made — well that really blows because things are only going to get worse.

Sun -=> Red Giant -=> Planetary Nebula -=> White Dwarf… Not even a black hole for our sun…

Cheers —

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

(M) is for (M)oron,

This is for you, sweetie. It’s from the New York Times!

Sun Is Getting Hotter, Satellite Data Indicate

By AmVet

October 22, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Gary, funny stuff about the “ultra-orthodox” in Cincy!

Ed Meese. Now there’s an unpleasant blast from the past!

Talk about COMPLETELY hung up!

And to think that nearly thirty years down the road these frauds and prudes, have yet to learn a thing and are still at it.

It is a complete mystery to me that this “pro-family conservative values” crowd has even a shred of credibility with most in this nation.

But then again, perhaps they really don’t.

Good evening friends, I’m outta here!

By RE

October 22, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

He says that the increased solar brightness over the past 20 years has not been enough to cause the observed climate changes but believes that the impact of more intense sunshine on the ozone layer and on cloud cover could be affecting the climate more than the sunlight itself.

Dr Bill Burrows, a climatologist and a member of the Royal Meteorological Society, welcomed Dr Solanki’s research. “While the established view remains that the sun cannot be responsible for all the climate changes we have seen in the past 50 years or so, this study is certainly significant,” he said.

Now which part of your own link’s article will you believe is true, and which part is false?

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Did RE really just blame the beekeepers for Mount Kilimanjaro’s icemelt, oh my Gawd, he did:

{{{{By RE October 22, 2007 4:53 PM According to Hardy, forest reduction in the areas surrounding Kilimanjaro, and not global warming, might be the strongest human influence on glacial recession. {{{{{{{{{{“Clearing for agriculture and forest fires—often caused by honey collectors trying to smoke bees out of their hives—have greatly reduced the surrounding forests,”}}}}}}}}}}} he says. The loss of foliage causes less moisture to be pumped into the atmosphere, leading to reduced cloud cover and precipitation and increased solar radiation and glacial evaporation.}}}}

Any idiot knows that the forests have quadrupled in size over the last several decades, people don’t cut trees down to burn wood any more.

(They will start anew if al Gore gets his way.)

This is the most patently ridiculous thing I have ever heard, that came from the National Geographic?

These people are stupider then I thought.

{{{{That appears to be what is happening, judging from three papers in the May 6 issue of Science. These three papers argue that the amount of incoming solar radiation reaching the surface of the earth has increased dramatically in the last two decades. While the values vary from paper to paper, in toto the new studies suggest that the increase in solar radiation absorbed at the earth’s surface had almost 10 times as much warming power during that time as the concurrent increases in carbon dioxide, the main global warming gas. Therefore, the warming observed over the past 20 years must have little to do with changes in greenhouse gases.}}}}

{{{{Data gathered by NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft suggest that the martian climate may have changed significantly in the past, and may be changing quickly even now. According to two papers published in the Dec. 7, 2001, issue of Science, these changes may happen over a much shorter time scale than scientists previously thought.}}}}

Beekeepers on Mars?

Hahahahahahaha.

By @@

October 22, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Have any of the news agencies taken Michael Yon up on his offer?

Yon Continues Iraq Reporting, Free To NNA

The guy is an excellent writer. He doesn’t cherry pick his news. You get the bad with the good. Yon is totally invested in the troops.

He finds humor where there’s humor — courage where there’s courage — loss where’s there’s loss, and the human heart right where it’s supposed to be — in your chest or in your throat. It depends on the story.

His photo shots are so candid.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

RE,

I’m not sure who that post was directed to, but I believe this is correct and the Left would have been smart to accept this theory instead of blaming everything on CO2.

[Although studies show that the Earth has warmed about one degree in the last century and that the trend is continuing, ——->>>>some scientists say it is part of a natural cycle for the planet.<————](http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/093097sci-sun.html

)

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 22, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

If David Copperfield is such a great magician, why doesn’t he just make his legal problems go away?

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Honey Muffin — how can I be “enraged” at you, dahlin’?! You’re my favorite pet on this board! Dumb as a rock, but cute as a button… As long as you don’t start peeing on the carpets, we’re all good. You’re just adorable!

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Hillary 08

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

So Muffin’s link says that the Sun will add .72 F to about 3 F of man-made global warming. Now watch her completely disavow (as “unscientific”) half the data in this paper, while clinging like a dog in heat to a leg to the other half. And, being the adorably stupid specimen that she is, she’ll see absolutely nothing wrong with that…

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

A question for you Clintonistas. Does this sound normal to you?

By RB from Gwinnett

October 22, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

gtengineer, So if evolution is an undisputed fact, why do they still call it the “theory” of evolution? Yes there are lots of things that support the “theory”, but there are so many unexplainable gaps in the “theory” they can’t call it a “fact”. You can, because thats what you’ve chosen to believe, but the facts don’t support it beyond “theory”.

Where are all the 1 eyed creatures, anyway? Did EVERY species decide it wanted 2 eyes instead of 1? And if 2 eyes were better than 1, what about 3, or 4? Wouldn’t that be better? So where are the 3 and 4 eyed animals? Or plants with eyes?

And when the genetically mutated monkey improved it’s DNA to make it superior to every other monkey on the planet, what did it mate with? A genetically inferior monkey?

And speaking of mating, when that first genetic mutation occured making more than 1 sex, did 2 separate mutations occur at the same time creating the male and female versions vs. the asexual one it started with? So 2 completly random DNA changes occured at the same time creating male and female species in the same place(if they hadn’t happen at the same time and in the same place, the mutant wouldn’t have had anything to mate with…)??? For every animal species on the planet? Come on.. You’re making this stuff up!!

By Monica Blewbillski

October 22, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

At least W’s parents named him George and not Harry.

By Mad As Zell

October 22, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

See it as one of the seven signs of the apocalypse or take it however you want. Believe it or not, today I actually agree with Lucko and Bookman. Atlanta’s chickens have finally come to roost.
Georgia’s water crisis isn’t being caused by “GLOBAL WARMING” as most screwball tree-huggers would have you believe. Georgia’s water crisis is being caused by years and years of Metro Atlanta’s GREED, ARROGANCE, CORRUPTION (see Fulton and Gwinnett County governments, just for starters) mismanagement (ABUSE) OF THE LAND and WATER resources and over self-indulgence and exuberance. The State of Georgia and Metro Atlanta governments have been in bed for years with developers and now our government’s slutty infidelities and all-around unfaithfulness to the people of Georgia have come back to burn us all like a cheatin’ husband or wife that fools around one too many times and brings home an “unpleasant surprise” to the spouse one night. Now we’re all “burned”, or worse, by dwindling water supplies with the all-too-real-possibility of thirst and starvation because our local governments never met a developer they didn’t like. Those two (Georgia goverment and developers) have been at it so much that they’ve single-handedly kept the roadside motel business afloat for years, why I think I just saw them on that show “Cheaters” the other day. Now the good people of Georgia are in need of a trip to the clinic for penicilin because of their government’s “Cheatin’ Heart”. I hope it’s something that can be cured…

By Gary

October 22, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

AmVet. Got it . PHIL BURRESS is the founder of “CCV.” “Citizens for Community Values.” He is a REALLY a big whell in and around Cincinnati. And his name is often seen nationally whenever anti-porn, Christian Values groups meet. (A new name to remeber for all those interested in “OUR NATION’S DOWNFALL.”) (sic) Phil especially enjoyed his 15 years of masturbating in his CAR. “MY CAR WAS MY FAVORITE PLACE.” (sic) In public parks and large school parking lots. THAT’S when he decided he HAD to do something about this “CREEPING EVIL.” The particular lengthy Cincinnati Enquirer article I quote is circa a Sunday, about 1985.

Phil and the CCV should be all over the internet. Look up “Cincinnati/ Citizens for Community Values” or “CCV” and you should discover the motherlode. There should be explanations and lists of all the good, wholesome Christian things they do for our society. CCV is BIG. All thanks to a fine, respectable, Republican who spent decades masturbating within sight and earshot of our children - and Gawd only knows what else he did/does. The Repub party has ALWAYS had lotsa room for guys like Phil and his followers. The need grows by the day. They make up a huge portion of the Repub constituency nationally. Phil Burress and CCV - proud names to remember. God, I love it!

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

I wish to refer to People for a nuked america’s century’s comment at 5:12.

“I got your red giant….right here!”

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

RB — flies have hundreds of eyes. Look it up. Pun intended.

By Luckoduh

October 22, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

{{{{Dr Sami Solanki, the director of the renowned Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Gottingen, Germany, who led the research, said: “The Sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures. “The Sun is in a changed state. It is brighter than it was a few hundred years ago and this brightening started relatively recently - in the last 100 to 150 years.”}}}}

{{{{The solar cycle is a period of 22 years in which the sun’s magnetic field rotates a full 360 degrees, causing its poles to switch. Solar maximum is the maximum solar activty that takes place approximately every eleven years, while solar minimum is the lowest point of solar activity.}}}}

Eleven years, hmmmmmm.

1996-2007.

{{{{“Man-made greenhouse warming has [made a] small contribution [to] the warming on Earth in recent years, but [it] cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance,” Abdussamatov told LiveScience in an email interview last week. “The considerable heating and cooling on the Earth and on Mars always will be practically parallel.”}}}}

And Pluto:

{{{{Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.}}}}

And from NASA in 2000:

{{{{Something similar happens to Earth’s atmosphere every 11 years when the sunspot cycle nears maximum. As solar activity increases, extreme ultraviolet radiation (EUV) heats our planet’s gaseous envelope, causing it to swell and reach farther into space than normal.}}}}

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

How can you tell which airline passenger is the gay terrorist? Easy! She’s the flaming nick jacker.

By Ralph

October 22, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Duh: You “win”?? You weak little wimp, you’ve never won anything in your life. Perhaps, other than BD, the biggest loser hereabouts. Joke. Pitiful. GTHFOOH

By Paul

October 22, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

RB - 5:41

“Theory” as in “Atomic Theory.” “Continental Drift Theory.” And so on.

You may want to read National Geographic’s “Was Darwin Wrong” for a fuller treatment of “theory” - “That’s what scientists mean when they talk about a theory: not a dreamy and unreliable speculation, but an explanatory statement that fits the evidence. They embrace such an explanation confidently but provisionally—taking it as their best available view of reality, at least until some severely conflicting data or some better explanation might come along.”

Link: Was Darwin Wrong?

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

How can you tell which terrorist has got the 72 virgins on his mind at an airport? Easy. HE’s the one buying the tiparillos from the stew.
Oh, dont reach for that one, duh, it’s WAY over your head.

And duh, you mispelled Bookman this morning. Bookman’s article was about how the strongest Moozzle Mon will win the water war. MM. MoozzleMon. (MoozzleMon means Muscle Man in German, or Reichsprechen)

Hillary 08

By Bill

October 22, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

California is tragically on fire. More than 250,000 people evacuated so far. Where the hell is the National Guard?

OH. They’re in Iraq, wasting their time, their blood, and their real obligations. Bush and his gang should be hanged in a public square for all the world to see.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Darwin: How could he be correct? He came. He saw. He pondered. His theory has beauty because it explains diversity and the mechanism for diversity. A genetic change gives a moth a slight advantage that over 200 million years would make that moth dominant. It explains why moths look like they look today, instead of looking different than they look today.

But it’s hardly a fact. And it sort of backs into the truth, and it feels like a plugged number. It just allows us to imagine a possible way in which the universe evolved.

We are monkeys when it comes to understanding our universe. So when someone comes up with something that has beauty and passes initial scrutiny, we worship him.

Was Darwin wrong? Of course he’s wrong. Einstein was wrong. So what? His theory is amazing. Try understanding one word of it. Know what? You cant.

Ditto darwin.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Analcord: your argument is “I’m too dumb to understand this theory, therefore it’s wrong”? Mmmmm, steely logic there…

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

Rushncap, I think that’s RB’s argument as well.

Does Dusty live in Gwinnet County by any chance?

By secrosslea

October 22, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

from been there: 1-brush your teeth w/ 1 cup of H2O, 2-bathe w/ 1 BASINful of water, 3-drink more milk, 4-fix all drips, leaks, & turn H2O pipes off when you leave. 5-Turn H2O heater to temp. just above comfort level & get in shower, turn on hot H2O only, turn H2O off, use soap & shampoo, turn H2O on, rinse, turn H2O off, get out. Do this only in emergency. Go to #2 otherwise. Use paper plates, plastic utensils, & save every drop of H2O for plants, toilet, pets, etc. You CAN get by using 3-4 gal. of H2O/day. Don’t use tub,toilet, or kitchen sink. Stand in tub to shower. Try it. If you had to carry H2O 1/2 mi. to use it, you’d do it. I did for years.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Bosch - I hope to never find out where any of them live.

By Paul

October 22, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

hi bosch

is it safe to come out yet? (getalife - be quiet. You know darn well what I mean)

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

Yes, yes.

Another parent said this to me at a soccer game the other day:

“I don’t know why they want to teach evolution in schools, I mean some people look like monkeys, but do they want to teach our kids that we came from monkeys?”

My mouth dropped and I slowly moved away.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

Hi Paul

Is it ever safe to come out here?

It’s been interesting today, I’ve seen things on the blog that I didn’t think we had to debate anymore.

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

No rushncap. I’m saying that Darwin himself didn’t understand it. It’s a beautiful theory and it has truth in it, but it’s not what future theories will do a better job explaining about how we happened.

One thing is certain. I dont understand one word of Darwin, Einstein, Newton, or Keynes.

Or Curly.

By RW-(the original)

October 22, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Wow! I make one throwaway comment on my way out the door this morning and finch has a full throttle hysterical fit over it.

Please “seek” help finchie.

rushncap,

Exactly how would it hurt you to know where anyone here lives? You realize you wouldn’t have to go there don’t you?

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry you had to go through that, Bosch. I guess in a sheltered world of academia everyone knows at least rudimentary things about science. That’s not to say they know much, but still…

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

I prefer to be blissfully unaware of enclaves of idiots, RW. Just a prejudice of mine.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I cited that article to refute (M)ental (M)idget’s claim that the sun is not warming, and because RE asked for it. Period. The only specific paragraph I cited was this:

{{Although studies show that the Earth has warmed about one degree in the last century and that the trend is continuing, ——->>>>some scientists say it is part of a natural cycle for the planet.<————}}}

I’ll leave it to those of you who have Doctorates in Consensus to quibble over how many degrees the earth may warm in the next hundred years.

Believe me, I can find much better sources than that one to debunk the global warming hysterics.

By RW-(the original)

October 22, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{I prefer to be blissfully unaware-By rusncap}}}}

Truer words were never spoken.

By Paul

October 22, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Bosch

I was referring to your “low blow” BOR comment this morning - as you also have a rather bent sense of humor I knew you’d take it in stride -

By Analchord

October 22, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am, I am. I got married to hillbilly next door, He freed Willy seven times with ho’s and everyone was a monica, he wouldn’t flash a dorothy or a pam, I really hate my man I’m Hillary, Hillary 08 I am.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

No Muffin, you certainly can’t “find much better sources”. First of all you have no idea what a “good source” is. Second of all, global warming has by no means been “debunked”. At best you can find some expert who questions aspects of the hypothesis. But leaving aside your contempt for those who are superior to you (I understand, it must sting to be the dim bulb in a Vegas marquee) you will at best find some skepticism. If you knew where to look. Which you don’t.

By rushncap

October 22, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Oooh, I’ve reduced RW to quoting out of context. Or, rather, to simply omitting a part of a sentence to make his point. By that technique, RW said:

“I ate d!ck today”.

Truer words have never been spoken.

By Bosch

October 22, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’ve never watch the Bill O show in my life, but I’ve heard some of his arguments. If I sounded like him, Jesus, I apologize!

Of course I didn’t think anything of it. It takes a lot more than that to set me up. Don’t ever tell me what to think or speculate what I’m thinking and you and me will always be cool!

:-)

Rushncap @ 7:03,

Amen!

By @@

October 22, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

It never surprises me that the debate over global warming evolves into evolution vs creationism. Those arguments with no beginning…no end.

No winners…no losers.

I do feel that the leftists get upset because they can’t take my soul. There’s nothing I can take from them, so who cares?

Creation works perfectly as it was meant to. We can help it along in its existence or contribute to its demise, but one thing’s for sure….

we can’t save it in the end. It’s too big and there’s too many other viruses just like us who have different ideas about what should be done.

The End!

By RW-(the original)

October 22, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Let’s see if you really can come up with that sentence out of my posts today. I’ll save you the trouble schoolboy, you can’t.

Don’t you hate it that your hero Maureen Dowd made that omission thing an accepted journalistic practice? We even have all you dullards on record supporting her.

By Buy Danish

October 22, 2007 8:38 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I know it’s tough to compete with you since you excel at looking up your own a$$ for information, but I’d start with Reid Bryson if I wanted to debunk the global warming HYSTERICS. (Sorry to shout but you seem to have missed the word I just bolded).

Note that debunking the HYSTERICS (like Al Gore) is not the same thing as debunking GLOBAL WARMING, something which I have no intention of attempting, particularly since we all agree that planet earth is warming.

Indeed, like Reid Bryson and any sane person walking the planet, I also believe in CLIMATE CHANGE!

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