Atlanta Opinion

Amazing and also sad to realize we could have had a competent, intelligent, visionary leader as our President, and the Supreme Court gave us King George the Moronic instead. And now Mr. Bring ‘Em On has fouled things up so badly that Gore doesn’t even want the job. I’m pulling for one of the Grumpy Old Men in the GOP to win, if only so the Repubs can clean up their own mess.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

Good Toon. Very accurate.

When I lived in Texas so much ground water was pumped out along with the oil the ground sank so much that houses were getting flooded everytime the tide rose higher than expected.

State and county officials got so tired of having to rescue them they bought them out and relocated them to higher ground at taxpayer expense.

The same thing will happen to thousands of more people and we will have to bail them out if something isn’t done soon.

We need to take Gore and his agenda seriously before it is too late.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Oh, Andy will have a fit today with this one.

Beltway, Just so you know, yesterday,I was joking about socialism - I don’t think it’s a good thing in it’s pure form, just like I don’t think any political ideology is good in it’s pure form. I respect RW for his opinion that anybody on “the dole” I think he called it, should not be allowed to vote, but my point yesterday was that nobody is free of “welfare.” I am of the opinion that any government money is welfare.

I do hope that RW has a jetsuit though, maybe he’ll give a ride in it.

So, Atlanta residents affected by Lake Lanier, what’s the plan? In a couple of months are we going to have to ask you, got water?

Are you going to start demanding the rest of the state supply you with water? Maybe the greedy developers whose mantra is build, build, build should have thought about all this.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa, “We need to take Gore and his agenda seriously before it is too late. “

OH, but haven’t you heard? Climate change is a myth, and Al Gore is stupid. :-)

I’ve enjoyed your posts - welcome to our little house of all things, well, I’m not sure what our little house is, but welcome.

I have an aunt who lives in Tampa and is married to a man named John. I really hope you aren’t him. But then again, he isn’t sober long enough to type anything of substance :-) -

Gotta run out for the morning - check back in later!

Hey Mrs. G! How are you?

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

The anti Gore right wingers must sleeping in late since they haven’t been spouting off yet.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

The anti Gore right wingers must be sleeping in late since they haven’t been spouting off yet.

By Beltway Bandit

October 16, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Bosch,
I too believe in capitalism. I believe in helping the weak to become strong, so they can help too. I believe that hand-outs are bad, but a helping hand will pay dividends.

Let me know what you think of this Paul O’Neil piece.

By Anonymous

October 16, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

We Americans don’t like smart folks running for office. How dare somebody act like he knows more than us, just because he does!

No, we vote for candidates who are ‘regular guys’ (or who can at least pretend to be—actually, they have to be incredibly rich and well connected). We vote for dummies we can have a beer with, because Gawd knows we wouldn’t want someone SMART running things.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

I responded to your loopy questions yesterday. I’ll paste it here since you said you had left for the day by the time I got back. For future reference when you ask someone a series of questions common courtesy dictates that you would go back and look for a response before making a comment the next day as if there had been no response.

Had you read the rest of yesterday’s comments you would find that you were quoted over at Michelle Malkins blog too. Congratulations! Although they called you borsh.

Here’s yesterdays answer:

{{{{{By RW-(the original)

October 15, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 2:44,

{{{{{Do you eat your own food that you grow in your yard or do you buy food at the supermarket? Have you ever bought ANYTHING from Wal-Mart?}}}}}

I understand your silly �socialism is good because we have fire stations� arguments, but what do those two questions have to do with the rest of them?

Fire and police protection are government services, but they are provided across the board and there is no opt-in/opt-out side to them. We have decided we want these services and we pay taxes accordingly. Do you want to claim we�re a socialist country because we have a government controlled military too? Pretty ridiculous arguments, even for a liberal to make.

If you want to compare that to health care then you have to have across the board government health care for provided by the government with no choices for the citizenry either if you want to have an apples to apples comparison.

As for corporate CEO�s or the employees of their companies losing the right to vote if the company gets government subsidies. NO. Only an individual that is having the government take money out of the pocket of someone that earned it and giving it to them.

You shouldn�t be able to vote yourself a share of someone else�s earnings. Once you get off the dole you get your voting rights back.

Subsidies to business or agricultural concerns are something I would like to see done away with for the most part along with getting rid of most government regulation of the free market.

When did people in this country turn against the concept of freedom?}}}}}

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Thanks Bosch.

I am in Tampa, my wife is in Jackson, GA.

We commute back and forth. We get along great now, less fighting and more sex.

Abstinance does make the heart grow fonder.

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/abizaid-middle-east-gas-station/

Once again, one of the rats that jumped of The Chimperor’s ship admits that Iraq is ALL ABOUT OIL!!

This time is the former Rat-in-Chief, Gen. John Abizaid, who admitted over the weekend that “Of course it’s about oil. We can’t really deny that.”

Why can’t these Chicken-Sh-its say that WHILE THEY ARE WORKING FOR W!!!!!

Gen. John Abizaid…Today’s WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!!!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 16, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

Morning Bosch!

All is well at Casa Godzilla de Empty Nest, thank you.

Hope the same is true for you and yours.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Randi Rhodes is the Victim of a Violent Attack

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

This cartoon doesn’t make much sense, but what’s there to expect from the scribbler.

ml, If sea levels were rising and we were seeing the evidence that this was a climate cycle that was going to make the coastline uninhabitable while previously uninhabitable places became desired locations the right wingers would have already moved to the new locations.

It was the left wing, government dependent bloodsuckers that would be waiting until the seas rose to the rooftops and wondering why the government hadn’t come to rescue them yet.

By ron

October 16, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Please don't confuse me with the right thinkers,but Al Gore is fat because he is out to lunch on his global warming predictions and causes.It's my undestanding that this rock we spin through space on has frozen and heated up before now and most likely will do so again.It seems to be a cyclic event.I think I'll wait and see what happens.

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

RW and Ron,

Flat-earthers separated at hatching!!

Don’t Hate - Appreciate!!

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

By Reason

October 16, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

If it weren’t blatantly obvious the AJC (and all other media) are left-leaning-Bush-bashers this is proof positive. Since global warming is happening on Mars, Venus and Saturn also, why don’t we ask their inhabitants what they are doing to control it(?)

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

The way we went to war in Iraq illustrates this larger problem. Normally, we Americans lay the facts on the table, talk through the choices before us and make a decision. But that didn’t really happen with this war — not the way it should have. And as a result, too many of our soldiers are paying the highest price, for the strategic miscalculations, serious misjudgments, and historic mistakes that have put them and our nation in harm’s way.

By Say It Ain't So

October 16, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Who said it?

1) ‘We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.’

A. Karl Marx B. Adolph Hitler C. Joseph Stalin D. None of the above

2) ‘It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few…… And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity.’

A. Lenin B. Mussolini C. Idi Amin D. None of the Above

3) ‘(We) …can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.’

A. Nikita Khrushev B. Josef Goebbels C. Boris Yeltsin D. None of the above

4) ‘We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own … in order to create this common ground.’

A. Mao Tse Dung B. Hugo Chavez C. Kim Jong Il D. None of the above

5) ‘I certainly think the free-market has failed.’

A. Karl Marx B. Lenin C. Molotov D. None of the above

6) ‘I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.’

A. Pinochet B. Milosevic C. Saddam Hussein D. None of the above

(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004 (2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007 (3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007 (4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007 (5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007 (6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

Be afraid, Be very afraid!

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Interesting take Truth?man,

So noticing that the earth has gone through warming and cooling periods for millions of years makes one a flat earther now?

By moonbat betty

October 16, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

good toon luckovitch.

everyone put on your waterwings!

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

IN THE FEVER SWAMPS,

Check out this Al Gore speech about Iraq

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Who said it?

“You have to keep repeating it until the propoganda sinks in!”

A. W

B. W

C. W?

“Make the pie higher!”

A. W

B. W

C. W?

“Doctors should be able to practice their love on their patients!”

A. W

B. W

C. W?

He’s your prez, not mine!!

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

[Gore’s Surprising Act of Leadership Against Iraq War- Gore, speaking Monday at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, warned that unilateral action against Saddam Hussein would ”severely damage” the more urgent war on terrorism and ”weaken our ability to lead the world.” Gore declared that the president has turned the broad reservoir of good will for America ”into a deep sense of misgiving and even hostility.” In a pointed dig at President George W. Bush’s go-it-alone cowboy rhetoric, he added, ”If you’re going after Jesse James, you ought to organize the posse first.”

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

The Washington Post: “Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.”

.

The above is a page 2 headline from Nov. 2, 1922.

By Midori

October 16, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

What a wonderfully funny toon, Mike.

I see the a couple of the 101 Keyboard Kommandos are out in force — waiting for their general before lauching a bigger attack, I suppose. Is that him and his dog chin high in the water? And here I was thinking that was RW the original clueless wingnut.

If that dog had any sense, he’d bite him.

Again Mike - great toon.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

The New Republic Op-Ed: Al Gore in 2008: Prime Choice

By mm

October 16, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Reason,

Who said the other planets are warming up? Rush?

Where is the proof?

Did RW fly around the solar system in his jet suit and take temperature readings? Did ya RW?

I wish the sea levels would rise tomorrow so all of flat earth @ss wipes would drown in your own ingorance.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Who said this:

Some call you the haves and the have-mores I call you my Base

A. W

B. W

C. W

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

What’s with all this Draft Gore sentiment here? I thought you guys have been telling us how happy you are with your current candidates.

By the way, somebody mentioned Al Gore in Vietnam yesterday.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Good morning parrot,

Great comment too! {{{{Good toon—-squawk—-good toon}}}}

Please give us more!?!

(m)ental (m)idget,

You’ll have to check with Bosch. He’s the one having these weird fantasies about me.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I find I agree with virtually everything Bill Maher says.

Should I be pleased or scared?

By Midori

October 16, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

You need to stop wasting your pet names for Buy Danish on me — really you do.

Whou woulda thunk the American Spectator/National Review was around in 1922.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Noble Peace Player’s Club-Membership has it’s privileges. I’ll let Iowahawk explain.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Hutchison may leave Senate early, won’t seek re-election

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Verizon provided data to Feds 720 times without court order or determining its legality

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Blue Dog McIntyre Flip-Flops on SCHIP! UPDATED

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa, Fla @ 9:42,

I lived down there for a long time. You really have to be careful how much time you spend in the sun.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

{{{By Bosch October 16, 2007 8:42 AM

So, Atlanta residents affected by Lake Lanier, what�s the plan? In a couple of months are we going to have to ask you, got water?}}}

My plan would be to tell the enviro-wackos who force us to Save the Mussels, to take a long walk off those short piers the mussels cling to.

How about this? The Corps released 22 billion gallons of water to save 10 fish:

Compounding this year’s problem was a huge mistake by the Corps in 2006./ That spring, just as the drought was beginning, the Corps released billions of gallons of additional water from Lanier to the Apalachicola River, for the spawning season of the threatened Gulf sturgeon. So few of the prehistoric fish remain that a federal biologist in Florida has estimated fewer than 10 females are able to spawn in any given year.

If you read that article you’ll see that they don’t even know how much water the mussels need, or if they could even survive if the dam did not exist in the first place.

The Army Corps of Engineers are also the same outfit who designed the levees in NOLA.

John from Tampa,

You do realize that you are living on a sandbar that was actually a lot smaller and covered with more water millions of years ago? Take a trip to the Okefenokee Swamps in Waycross, GA and you’ll learn all about it.

How many SUVs, evil corporations or greedy “polluters” were involved with that scenario do you think?

RW,

Hot air is talking about what a joke the idiot moonbats at the AJC are here.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

There are some alarming signals and trends that are making economists very nervous that we are hurtling towards another economic crash. On Friday�s Bill Moyers Journal, guests Robert Kuttner and William H. Donaldson spoke on the parallels they see, especially as it relates to the giant inequities brought on by under-regulated hedge funds. WILLIAM DONALDSON: Absolutely. The SEC is� that�s its role: investor protection. And a protection of the markets themselves, to make sure that they�re being run properly. ROBERT KUTTNER:And I would add that there are two purposes to regulation. One is to protect investors; the other�s to protect the whole system from systemic risk, from meltdowns. And when people talk about George Soros can take care of himself, people forget that other purpose of regulation, it�s to protect the whole system. And the other problem is that pension funds and university endowments and� the endowments of charities are now investing in hedge funds. So it is funds that sort of� BILL MOYERS: That scare you? ROBERT KUTTNER: �little� terrifies me. BILL MOYERS: Terrifies you

By Midori

October 16, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Al Gore winning the Nobel has really really brought the loser out in the losers.

It’s so very funny watching it.

Why don’t the losers try to do something worthy for mankind? Hint: Blogging here and mindlessly attacking Al Gore does not a Nobel winner make.

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa, Fla.

You should be mad as hell because of the mess The Chimperor has gotten this country into; that’s how you should feel.

Jan. 20, 2009: The End of an Err!!

By Cindy

October 16, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Ron at 9:08

Global warming is cyclical. However, the point is that the human population is causing abnormal increases to a normal event. The cyclical change is occurring much quicker and more intense than in the past.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Washington - This is crunchtime for members of Congress who must decide whether to seek reelection next year or leave office, and so far Republicans seem to be lunging for the exits. While 16 GOP lawmakers have decided to throw in the towel on their Capitol Hill careers, only two Democrats so far have called it quits - and they both are seeking higher office.

By steve-o

October 16, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

{{{Whou woulda thunk the American Spectator/National Review was around in 1922.}}}

Midori,

What do you think the headlines were in the National Review back then?

“‘Birth of a Nation’: Greatest Movie of All Time”

“Don’t Worry: Strong Economy is Forecasted to Continue for 100 Years”

“The Threat from Papist Italian Immigrants”

“The White Man’s Burden: Why We Should Christianize Filipinos”

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

The quickening pace of oil deals between Kurdish regional leaders and foreign companies is another sign that Iraq is spinning out of control and the Bush administration has no idea how to stop it.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

New York - The American Civil Liberties Union said Sunday that newly uncovered documents show that the Pentagon secretly sent hundreds of letters seeking the financial records of private citizens without court approval.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

I haven’t talked to my wife yet today so I don’t know how I feel until she tells me.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa,

I’ll save you a trip to the swamps. Just read this, from the U.S. Geological Survey:

During the last global “warm spell,” about 125,000 years ago, the seas were about 18 feet (5.5. meters) higher than they are now. About three million years ago the oceans could have been up to 165 feet (50 meters) higher.

Hopefully you are not too much of a dolt to figure out what this meant for Florida.

Midori,

Al Gore is a botched joke and we are enjoying it immensely.

By Midori

October 16, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

LOL, Steve-o!!

Good one!! :)

By Midori

October 16, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

and you, Buy Danish, are a botched abortion.

too bad someone didn’t get it right.

glad you’re enjoying the many talents and accomplishments of Mr. Gore.

too bad you can’t get that sense of pride and accomplishment from “your” leaders….

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Soldiers: institute a draft or withdraw from Iraq now. In the Washington Post today, 12 former Army captains declare that �five years on, Iraq is in shambles,� and that �short� of a military draft, �our best option is to leave Iraq immediately�:}

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

In fundraising, Democrats thumping GOP candidates: Clinton and Obama each have more available money than combined total for top four Republicans

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Run, Al, run— Take your rightful place in the White House in ‘09!

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Despite telling the world about the free market and hands off approach to business, which of course is a completely false argument by the GOP, Treasury Secretary Paulson has jumped into the middle of the Wall Street meltdown.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Isn’t amazing how the moonbat(ic)s® and their pet parrots can take a 1922 headline from the Washington Post and make believe it was National Review?

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

John in Tampa:

Pay no attention to the neo-conmen and women on this blog. They are flat-earthers who never would’ve sailed with Columbus, flown a kite with Franklin or ridden in a car with Henry Ford.

The believe “Leave it to Beaver” is how America should be - White, white and white.

They are faux-christians who practice their hate of Latinos, Blacks, gays and progressives 10-fold more times than they practice actual acts of love of their fellow humans.

They are, quite simply, the previous evolutionary level and should be treated as such.

As Gene Wilder said in “Blazing Saddles:” “You know…Morons!”

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

McConnell Aide Acknowledges That He Tried To Spread Bogus Smear Of Graeme Frost……”Forgive me if I already told you this, but a blogger that I trust (and who hadn’t written anything on this issue yet) tells me that after spending a lot of time on this, they now believe there’s no story there, that the family is legit,” Stewart wrote in one e-mail, according to the text he provided to The Courier-Journal. “So I’m passing that along to the folks I wrote to this morning. Fair is fair.”

By spambot um

October 16, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Oh IN THE NEWS…please please spambotum Truthman some more.

He has been locked in a DUmmie cage waaaay too long.

By Blaise Sewell

October 16, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

I have an opinion.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Don’t worry Truthman, I have to respect someone before I consider their opinion.

By hterrya

October 16, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

By Cindy, posted October 16, 2007 9:51 AM:

“Ron at 9:08

Global warming is cyclical. However, the point is that the human population is causing abnormal increases to a normal event. The cyclical change is occurring much quicker and more intense than in the past.”

Cindy, thanks for the concise and logical explanation of the problem, and thanks for setting Ron straight. If he is a troll, he will ignore you or call you names. If he is what he claims to be (“Please don’t confuse me with the right thinkers”) he will be gracious in admitting his error.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

Since you “speak” in scientific absolutes would you please post the credentials that make you qualified to offer that pronouncement at 9:51? Thanks in advance!

Buy Danish,

Hot Air is still jamming yesterday’s poll. They ought to go ahead and bump the new one. I’ve got to run out. Hopefully I’ll get back by the end of the day.

Maybe by then IN THE FEVER SWAMPS will tell us what difference it makes comparing Democrat vs. Republican campaign cash in the primary season when they can’t carry that forward to the general election.

Later!

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

[Lag, lag, lag. That�s all you hear these days regarding Republican fundraising compared with the Democrats�. Now we can add a new word: abandoned. The business community that celebrated the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994 by spending millions to prop it up for more than a decade is in full retreat.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

RW, I read your post last night. I also read what the new wingnuts wrote about me. They obviously don’t understand sarcasm - which is pretty obvious if they’d read all the posts and taken it into context - I know, that is difficult for wingnuts - taking things into context. Cherry picking is a wingnut speciality.

I respect your opinion from above, but I just disagree. You mentioned yesterday that people who accept government funding for their family should not be allowed to vote until they are self-sufficient, and my point was that no one in this country is self-sufficient.

You said earlier that you would like to do away with government subsidies to corporations and agriculture - that was the point of my Wal-Mart and food you eat question. I beieve welfare is welfare - no matter how you spin it.

I read another one of your posts I think from last night where you said that you agree that all welfare cases should be gone over with a fine tooth comb to determine if recipients are eligible - and I totally agree with that. I think there are abuses in the system - which is why I mentioned yesterday that I thought you’d make a good social worker.

I guess one of the many differences between you and I is that I personally don’t see all of what I consider to be welfare as bad, but that is because I’m a liberal and you are a conservative. You want less government, and I see a need for it in some cases. I certainly do not think that people should just be “given” money for being poor, I do not believe in handouts, I believe in helping people.

But like I said yesterday, there are no welfare programs for lazy a$$ poor people who just don’t want to work. Are there lazy a$$ people who just don’t want to work? Of course. I know alot of people who fall into that category, poor, middle class, and rich.

But I see a need for government assistance in some cases, but not as a long term solution.

Have you ever had a homeless guy knock on your door and ask to do some yard work for a sandwich and a little bit of money?

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Ron Paul Wins Five Straw Polls, Mainstream Media Remains Silent

Ron Paul Wins Another Alabama Straw Poll By Landslide!

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Beltway Betty - I agree with what you said at 8:55 - I’m too sarcastic for my own good sometimes!

I’ll read the link - thanks for the post!

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Just out of curiosity, what do the poll obsessed around here think about this poll?

Funny how public opinion changes when the facts are out.

Later!….again….

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

“Maybe by then IN THE FEVER SWAMPS will tell us what difference it makes comparing Democrat vs. Republican campaign cash in the primary season when they can�t carry that forward to the general election”.

True, unless the money raised NOW is for the general election.

That can and is being done.

By Say It Ain't So

October 16, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

ITN - “In fund raising, Democrats thumping GOP candidates: Clinton and Obama each have more available money than combined total for top four Republicans”

That maybe, but how much of it came from China? Is there any $$ in there from North Korea? How about the Taliban?

You’re in for a surprise in 08!!

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

I take that back, I can think of reasons for long-term government assistance, housing comes to mind. How are people who work minimum wage jobs in places like New York City supposed to afford housing?

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

{{{{Have you ever had a homeless guy knock on your door and ask to do some yard work for a sandwich and a little bit of money?}}}}

No. Relevance?

By the way, Thomas Sowell has some very interesting things to say about your premise at 10:52. I guess you wouldn’t be surprised that he thinks you’re creating the very problem you propose to fix in that one. I’ll try to find some of his articles on that subject when I get back.

Now car or jet pack….hmmmm……

ITFS,

Breakdown of that funding please?

Now I’m really leaving. Take your time.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

The rents for one-bedroom apartments in Manhattan average $2,567 a month, and two-bedrooms average $3,854 a month, according to data from Citi Habitats, a large rental brokerage company, but rents tend to be far higher in coveted neighborhoods like the Upper West Side and TriBeCa./ Because landlords typically require renters to earn 40 times their monthly rent in annual income, renters of those average apartments would need to earn at least $102,680, individually or combined, to qualify for a one-bedroom and $154,160 to afford a two-bedroom.

You think we should subsidize that?

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

{{{Hey, George:

I understand that you, along with some of your party members and your dwindling supporters, are truly disappointed that your own efforts in the area of promoting peace throughout the world have again gone unrecognized by the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. I thought I would take the time to explain to you, as best I can, why you have been passed over yet again. You see, George, your chances of ever winning a Nobel Peace Prize are slim to none � and here�s why:](http://journals.democraticunderground.com/NanceGreggs/286)

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

On-The-Record Briefing: Anti-Corruption Efforts in Iraq

I thought some of you might find this interesting.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Check out the pic of the kids the right chose to attack

Geez.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

John 9:42

Regarding Bill Mah3r:

Scared? No. Concerned? Yes.

I saw him in an interview recently, was asked about Iraq. Said partition into three - the Sen Biden plan, then I believe he said to leave. Followup was what happened then, Sunni participation, more tribal warfare? His response? “I’m not up on all the details.”

So he has people with opinions on his show (notice I didn’t say “experts”), he passes political judgments on others, but when asked to go beyond a sound bite answer his response is “not up on the details.”

IN THE NEWS 9:50

Are you aware Hillary still hasn’t made up her mind on supporting legislation to tax hedge fund managers more than 15 percent income tax? Maybe after the election, when the hedge fund manager contributions stop rolling in, she’ll decide.

In The News 10:14

Maybe now’s the time to cut the Army budget in half? After all, they were supposed to be able to fight two wars with all those billions…

In the News 10:16

[[In fundraising, Democrats thumping GOP candidates: Clinton and Obama each have more available money than combined total for top four Republicans]]

Does this mean the next Democratic President will be bought and paid for, and owe more payback to special interests, than a Republican President?

Wait - that’s for Hillary, only. Most of Obama’s $$$$$ are in from small contributions from a huge supporter base. Maybe that’s why Hillary’s leading?

Bosch

Good morning! In the mood for the religious question from last night? I think you may have signed off by the time I posted it.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

RW,

Open Secrets could instruct you

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Say it ain’t so?

Where do you think your precious W is getting his money for his oil war?

He’s getting it from…drum roll, please…CHINA!!!

Why don’t you do a little reading (no, My Pet Goat doesn’t count) before opening your ignorant pie-hole.

Now, Let me be the first to fire a salvo over Cox Enterprise’s bow:

Dear Ann Cox-Chambers, All Cox-Chambers relatives and WSB radio,

Why do you continue to air “The Sean Hannity Show?”

Of course, he does make you lots of money. But, since he is a pathological liar, and since the country is, mercefully, turning against such hate-mongers, wouldn’t it be in your best interest to broadcast something that is actually in the public interest?

This is where the drumbeat starts, WSB, and it’s going to get louder and louder until you dump Sean Hannity’s hate-filled, lie-filled radio show.

I MEAN IT!!!!

By getalife

October 16, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

“Russian president Putin visits Iran, sends warnings to US:

Russian leader Vladimir Putin met his Iranian counterpart Tuesday and implicitly warned the U.S. not to use a former Soviet republic to stage an attack on Iran. He also said nations shouldn’t pursue oil pipeline projects in the area if they weren’t backed by regional powers.”

When they spew about Iran, they should about Russian and China too.

It is the oil stupid.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

This is one of Nance’s best rants…

I’ll try it again

Hey, George: I understand that you, along with some of your party members and your dwindling supporters, are truly disappointed that your own efforts in the area of promoting peace throughout the world have again gone unrecognized by the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. I thought I would take the time to explain to you, as best I can, why you have been passed over yet again. You see, George, your chances of ever winning a Nobel Peace Prize are slim to none � and here�s why:

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

RW, If a homeless guy were to knock on your door and asked you if he could rake your yard for $10 and a sandwich, would you let him? It’s not a rhetorical question, I’m just asking.

Buy Danish, That’s not my question, where are the people who make minimum or low wages in New York City live?

You are from New York, right? I’m asking a question, not trying to make a statement.

Paul, Sure. I read through some of the posts from last night, but I missed the question - go for it!

By Paul

October 16, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish 11:04

I do not believe NYC subsidizes those high rents. I believe many apartments are under rent control, where the maximum rent is set and the tenant pays, no assistance. Much has been written about the problems, but much of the rent value I’ve looked at is about the same as rents in other parts of the country.

Landlords must’ve found a way to rent at those levels and still make money.

California some years back: way high housing appreciation. Many properties bought and sold five times with no one living in them. More and more people were priced out of housing (I had a neighbor back then, he was Marine enlisted, his wife worked in a factory, they could afford a house no problem - this was before the increases). There was talk in the legislature of requiring people to live in the homes or forfeit much of the appreciation. Sometimes the “free market” royally shafts the average person.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Bosch

If soccer’s “the” great sport, then why isn’t it mentioned in the Bible while baseball is?

By Dusty

October 16, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Ho hum

Luckovich draws a family drowning in water when we are having a drought…

Democrats have someone who finally WON something besides a hiphop music award. Immediately they declare that he’s presidential material. (It takes two or three failures for Democrats to catch on.) Gore 2008!!!

Go for it Dems. I’d rather you promote Gore than the sick child you pushed on TV for political purposes.

Democrats show their missing “character” every day, along with their missing appreciation for America. Just read this blog every day and the evidence is obvious.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul, Oh I did see that, but I forgot to respond, for one thing, I’ve never said that soccer is “THE” greatest sport, I have said it is the most popular (worldwide) and it is “the beautiful game,” which, I, of course, did not make up that term.

I’m sure this is some kind of joke, so okay, and I like jokes even though I’m really horrible at telling them, so I’ll bite:

Why Paul, I have no idea why baseball is mentioned in the Bible and football (soccer) is not. Why is that?

By Bob

October 16, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Well now, I see where GM is about to make another brilliant stroke. With a new management team in place, filled with fresh new ideas, GM is about to perform once more that which US carmakers have perfected for 30 years now: going FORWARD by going BACKWARD. It’s not even 2008 yet, but GM is in process of introducing a 2009 Camaro - which looks like a 1967 Camaro.

Nothing succeeds quite like continued failure.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

So, who wants to be the first neo-con to criticize Bush for awarding the Dalai Lama the Congressional Gold Medal, thus seriously damaging our relationship with a crucial ally and trading partner over a silly symbolic gesture?

I’m waiting…. you guys aren’t - gasp! - hypocrites, are you?

P.S. Why does the President award the Congressional Gold Medal? Seems like that would be awarded by, oh, I don’t know, Congress?

By Paul

October 16, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Couldn’t leave it alone, could you? Curiosity (or pity?) got the better of you. Just can’t see walking into something you just know you’ll regret…

Okay. Baseball is God’s sport. God plays it. Soccer isn’t and God doesn’t. In fact, all of Christian theology is based upon baseball.

Proof? Christian scripture. Right from the start, the Bible talks about baseball.

Genesis 1:1 “In the Big Inning…”

By AmVet

October 16, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

The armchair climatology experts here rage on and on about the issue.

But over the past few months there are several irrefutable facts.

One, that the number of organizations - scientific, political, including at last even the Bush administration, and even religious - are joining in the ever growing number of people who at a minimum, now give credence to the possibility that man is, in fact, influencing the earth’s ecosystems and weather in a very negative way.

On the surface, this is not much of a stretch, given the enormous problems of habitat destruction, species eradication and rampant poisoning and pollution of the water, land and air of this planet by mankind’s industrial and other activities.

Two, the science supporting the theory continues to grow and expand. More and more evidence, data and facts are being gathered and the analysis of them keeps getting better and clearer. This is the very nature of science.

Three, there is also an ever dwindling number of people, much less legitimate organizations, who not only give no credence to this possibility, they completely dismiss it, but apparently believe that the vast majority of all of the actual experts in these matters are not much more than conspiratorial liberals with some strange agenda to destroy the American economy or practice their “junk” science to further their careers.

And again on the surface, how unsubstantiated and desperate a fundamental premise is that?

Four, the naysayers are continuing to be marginalized. This may or may not be a good thing, but given their lack of credibility and basic understanding in so many other countless scientific fields of knowledge, the world and scientific community has no other real choice.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Bob

Look at Ford’s sales figures for the retro Mustang. Only then did GM see the potential (Chrysler’s had pricing problems with the Charger - it’s a new, expensive platform). GM’s already taken a lot of advance orders. I think they’ll make a good amount of money off it.

By SCHIP - THEFT BY TAKING

October 16, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

SCHIP is just a fraud to transfer tax dollars to the health care industry. The medical crooks out there, and there are many, already collect some two trillion dollars per year from Americans, that is 1 in seven dollars of GDP. Children are by far the healthiest age group in America, yet Hilarity the Clown wants to throw health care money at them, plus pay their parents a voting for Hilary bonus of one thousand dollars. The fat cat administrators of health care organizations are already preparing bonus and stock options for themselves as a result of all this free money the Hag is offering. The docs, nurses, and othe direct care providers will get nothing extra out of SCHIP except highter taxes, higher inflation, and the added burden of a dollar dying even faster on foreign exchange markets. Of course, who expects stupid women voters to think things thru? The fools even believe Alwin - Al the liar - Gore, Head of Al Quitie in AmeriKa.

By AmVet

October 16, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

They must need more subscribers to increase their legitimacy, huh?

From this month’s National Geographic, a notorious “junk” science magazine with a longstanding history of being wrong on scientific matters:

The scientific evidence is clear. Surface temperatures on Earth are warming at a pace that signals a decisive shift in the global climate, one expected to last for centuries. Previous epochal changes of climate, such as the the Ice Age that ended 11,500 years ago, were set in motion by natural causes - variations in Earth’s orbit that affect the amount of sunlight warming the planet.

In the cases, the cycles of cooling and warming UNFOLDED SLOWLY, OVER THE COURSE OF MILLENNIA.

This episode is different.

Climate is changing more rapidly than ever before. HUMAN ACTIVITY IS THE MAIN CAUSE. Burning of fossil fuels - oil, gas, coal - has flooded the atmosphere with heat-trapping carbon dioxide, triggering a 1 degree Fahrenheit spike in average global temperature in the past century, LARGELY IN THE PAST 30 YEARS.

Already impacts include altered precipitation patterns, melting glaciers, intensifying storms and a rise in sea level.

Unless CO2 emissions are slashed, the planet will likely heat up even faster, fundamentally changing the world we and our children live in.

By SCHIP - THEFT BY TAKING

October 16, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Yo Amvet, aka CongBoy, who cares about global warming as long as there are snow making machines that will allow me to ski to my hearts content? Remember stupid, Charlie dont ski——

By RE

October 16, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

I got to say to all the rightwingers out there, I am really impressed by one thing. How do you come up with all these interesting and somewhat insulting name derivations:

Alwin “the liar” Gore, head of Al Quitte

Hitlery, hitlery the klown

Klintoon

Shrillary

Al Bore

Very impressive. Almost like a 3rd grader.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

{{{By Bosch

October 16, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

I take that back, I can think of reasons for long-term government assistance, housing comes to mind. How are people who work minimum wage jobs in places like New York City supposed to afford housing?}}}

Bosch,

What the h*^% do you think that says? Sure you “asked a question” but you also made a statement.

Paul,

Yes, NYC has rent control and the end result is that it contributes to the housing crunch. With less free-market housing available, that housing ends up costing more because of supply/demand.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

{{Of course, who expects stupid women voters to think things thru?}}

SCHIP DUHHH— care to repeat that question without all of your anal-isis to try to obscure what you really hate?

By @@

October 16, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Gore applies the placebo/nocebo theory to impending doom ml. On a brighter note…

Maybe a “big tsunami”, triggered by a “large” undersea volcanic “eruption” could trim Al Gore’s “bulge” balancing out the “spin” if’n ‘ya know what I mean.

Grabbing onto Gore’s big ol’ “love handles” while China offers us “dirty advances”?….banish the thought!!!!!!!

:-O

I want a man with a slow hand

I want a lover with an easy touch

I want somebody who will spend some time

Not come and go in a heated rush

I want somebody who will understand

When it comes to love, I want a slow hand

By Midori

October 16, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

RE - you’re too kind to the idiots at the expense of some very mature 3d graders.

All they have is “names”.

That and a quarter still won’t buy them a cup of coffee.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Man, lets hope Vice President Gore is right, you sure need the rain.

Ga is one of the only red states left so maybe God is trying to tell ya”ll something.

Repent and there will be rain.

Geez.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Good one!

Buy Danish, It’s a simple question, do you have an answer? You are from New York, I’m asking you: where do people who make minimum or low wages live when they work in New York City?

No, I do not think the government should subsidize apartments where the rent goes for 2500/month or more. I understand supply and demand. But where do the low wage earners that work in NYC live?

Housing costs are rising everywhere, not just NYC, and how are people who make minimum or low wages supposed to afford housing in NYC or anywhere for that matter?

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Getalife— I think GA is destined to be the “Confederacy of Repugnants” for the next century or so…

By RE

October 16, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I think you are right, it is mainly about names.

When I think about the GOP debates I have seen, it is mostly about identity politics, which candidate can make the gestures of being strong, conservative, pro family… whatever brand they are seeking. There is very little focus on having good judgement, being able to work for all americans, or anything about bringing about peace, apparently peace = weakness. Almost no attention or thought to an actual plan or philosphy of governing, just positioning for a brand.

On the dem side, the debates usually go over the details of whatever plan they have, and there is positioning and grandstanding, but mainly dealing with who will help families more, or who will have the best judgement for future crisies.

Side note, I went to a meeting this weekend in in broward county FL dealing with the foreclosure problem down here. Dem Mayor, Dem city council. The entire focus was not on responsibility or education, but on getting government money to the people. It was horrifying.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

RE 12:00

Many had made the same observation about the farfarLeft and the cutesy, rhyming name thing. I really think that was behind MoveOn’s “Betrayus” debacle - they were so used to cutesy rhyming they couldn’t see beyond that to the implications. So much for an astute political organization.

Just as I’d hoped the new Dem Congress would to a 180 from the previous Rep Congress (people still question that a lot or Reps abandoned the Rep candidates because they wanted change) but the Dem Congress simply adopted many of the worst characteristics of the Rep Congress, so I’d hoped if the Rep Party became the underdog they’d rise a little bit higher and not ape the childishness of the farfarLeft.

So much for optimism -

Buy Danish

I’m pretty familiar with the theory. I just think in the real world allowances should be made. The first time I heard “affordable housing” I thought “isn’t it all affordable to someone?” (That’s theory). Answer is, affordable at a cost of no more than 30% of gross household income to households at or below 80% of the county median income (That’s reality) - so many communities now require a certain amount of “affordable housing.” Many times theory and reality have to bend a bit.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

I�m a little concerned about Our Lady of the Concentration Camps. Now that she�s been fired (or resigned, whatever) from The O�Reilly Factor, she�s going to have some extra time on her hands. So, in the spirit of comity and intra-blog civility, I thought I would maybe quickly whip up a batch of suggestions for Top Ten New Jobs for Stalkin� Malkin

By Midori

October 16, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

RE,

on another note, I’ve heard nothing but good things about your governor.

There IS hope after all…….

By RE

October 16, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

They live in Newark and take the Path Train to work.

Newark is a S-hole

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

{{how are people who make minimum or low wages supposed to afford housing in NYC or anywhere for that matter?}}

Bosch— isn’t it interesting how the Repugs see no correlation between earned wages and living expenses? The cost of living is continually going skyward, and wages have been stagnant for the past 20 years or so… and the so-called “employment boom” that Dubya keeps bragging about is really for the service industries like fast-food and hotel workers. Not exactly considered the middle class anymore…

20 years ago if a worker was earning $60k a year, they were considered upper middle class — but no more! That $60k doesn’t go so far when you look at housing prices, healthcare prices, school tuition and food prices!

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

[The Most Polarizing Prez Candidate Is…Not Hillary

Here’s some poll data that I don’t believe has received much attention.

ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST POLL. Sept. 27-30, 2007

“If [see below] wins the Democratic/Republican nomination for president would you definitely vote for him/her in the general election for president in 2008, would you consider voting for him/her or would you definitely not vote for him/her?”

PERCENT SAYING “DEFINITELY WOULD NOT”

Obama — 39%

Clinton — 41%

Edwards — 43%

Giuliani — 44%

McCain — 45%

Thompson — 54%

Romney — 57%

What’s does that mean?

Sen. Hillary Clinton is no more polarizing than other Dems, and less polarizing than every leading Republican.

Further, every Dem is less polarizing than every Republican, even the sainted John McCain and Rudy Giuliani. Yet there has been no punditocracy discussion of whether McCain, Giuliani, Thompson “can win” either nationally or in certain areas of the country.

Pundits do sometimes discuss Romney’s electability, but that’s only because there has been discussion of whether a Mormon can win the presidency. (And the particularly high negative for Romney indicates that anti-Mormon bigotry is something he still needs to address head on.)

Having said all that, the whole question of polarization when gauging presidential candidates is obsolete. In today’s political and media landscape, any candidate will be (and is) rejected by 40% of the country on Day 1.

By Dusty

October 16, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

RE @12:00

Dear heart, it is so easy to come up with comic names for Democrats when their behavior is so sadly hilarious.

I mean, who else would say that a family making $80,000/year is poverty stricken?

Who else would say that a person twenty five years old is a child?

Who else would declare that Gore is a scientist?

Who else would put a sick child on TV to promote political moves?

Who else “supports the troops” while refusing to sign the money bill that funds them?

I give you only a few of the Dems dimi-doos that have been promoted. But the list goes on… and …on.

By RE

October 16, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Charlie Crist is doing a good job down here in Florida, he is a pretty moderate guy, fiscally responsible, and does not have the tendancy toward grandstand legistlation. Yep, he is a good republican.

Jeb was pretty good as well, would have been much better to have him instead of GWB in the whitehouse, if we had to have another Bush there. I feel like Papa Bush on this, GWB killed the Bush name, only way it could have been worse if Neil was elected.

By T. L. McHaney

October 16, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Regarding our latest Nobel Peace Prize winner, Albert Gore, Newt Gingrich is quoted in AJC (Oct 13 B3) as saying, “It’s perfectly appropriate for Gore to win the Nobel Prize because it only goes to very left-wing people who are critical of America.” Apparently the think tank where they have been holding Gingrich has used too much electricity on him, so the man who once shut down America has forgotten that Henry Kissinger, George C. Marshall, Ralph Bunche, Woodrow Wilson, Elihu Root, Teddy Roosevelt, Cordell Hull, and Jane Addams—not to mention Martin Luther King and Jimmy Carter—are among those Americans preceding Gore in this honor. T. L. McHaney Decatur

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Dubya’s pal Putin has a warning for him:

TEHRAN, Oct. 16 � President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia told a summit meeting of five Caspian Sea nations in Iran today that any use of military force in the region was unacceptable and in a declaration the countries agreed that none of them would allow their territories to be used as a base for launching military strikes against any of the others.

Dubya will long be remembered for bringing back the Cold War…

By getalife

October 16, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

crusty,

We get it gop witch.

You want American children to die without health care but call yourself “pro life”.

Cast a spell upon our children witch.

Geez.

By RE

October 16, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Russia backing Iran:

How long before the RW journals spin this into a GWB triumph. See, GWB is maximizing his resources and is a great CEO type manager of the government. His secretary of state is an expert on Russia, and because there was relative peace between the two nations when he took office, her skill set was underutilized. By exacerbating tensions in the region, Russia is now a threat again, which is a good thing because that is Condi’s strong suit.

By Bob

October 16, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Of course you are RIGHT, Paul. Just look at the rewards garnered by dredging up Mustang and Charger. Ford and Chrysler are setting the world on fire with sales of their machinery. No doubt GM can’t wait to catch up with Ford/Chrysler success. Then they can all tank together. What a myopic mind you have. For your astute opinion, I’m going to send you a gift - that which every red-blooded American would-be-man lusts for: a truck. Thanks for your intellectual input.

By Will

October 16, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Maybe gore should practice what he preaches. Check out gore’s energy usage on snopes.com.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Thanks RE, for answering my question.

I too think Jeb may have been a better Bush choice, but we can’t have it all.

Paul and Goldie, You spelled out my point. People are earning less than inflation and can’t keep up. $80,000/year may be okay in some places, but it just isn’t the case in a lot of places.

I don’t think the government should bail out mortgage companies, but something has to be done about the cost of housing, it’s gotten to the crazy point.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

{{{{{RW, If a homeless guy were to knock on your door and asked you if he could rake your yard for $10 and a sandwich, would you let him? It�s not a rhetorical question, I�m just asking.}}}}}

Yes, and I hope that doesn’t mean you’re dropping by. Again, relevance?

How do you libs keep from falling down with your constant spinning. I see several comments telling us housing costs are spiraling out of control upward when you just got through scolding us about housing prices plummeting?

Later!…again…

By RE

October 16, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Bush’s visit with Dali Lama

What the hell is going on here. Is this like a competition between Bush and Pellosi with the Turkey resolution on which side can most destabilize international relations with a grandstanding gesture which has no benefit to US interests?

Can we get some grownups in government?

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Good one RW, good one - no I want to stop by to see if I can ride in your jet suit.

I wanted to know if you’d give a homeless guy a chance to work, if you’d slam the door in his face, or simply give him a handout, I wanted to see how you’d respond.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

$88.20 for a barrel of oil and at this rate it will be $100 for Christmas.

Holiday presents will be a tank of gas.

Mission Accompished?

Geez.

By RE

October 16, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

For anyone interested in the stock market, general economic health, and inflation

This is for Andy primarily. It is a complicated read but give good insight into the value of a countries stock market, it’s debt, and currency value. The example is a worst case scenario of a much weaker country than the US with much less resiliance in it’s markets, but the trendlines and forces at work are the same. Also, foriegn investment, you know the people who buy out national bedt and allow the government to function, is starting to decrease

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Active-Duty Members of The US Military Will Hold a Press Conference Calling For An End to The US Occupation of Iraq

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Forget the terrorists, Rudy said he will protect us from space aliens.

Tin foil hat Rudy?

Damn.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Al Gore: Get the troops home

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I thought it was you libs that belived in Space aliens. Why else would you believe in Universal health care, evidently they’re going to pay for it.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Life is harder now, some experts say Generation gap: After paying the bills, middle-class pockets are emptier

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

Stop freeloading off of everyone else’s comments! Why don’t you transform back into RE and give your opinion humanoid!

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

“TX-Sen: Kay Bailey-Hutchinson quitting.”

The gop have destroyed our country and then cut and run.

Cowards.

By Kurdish Stanzas

October 16, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Global flooding? Yes it’s happening now. No it’s not, there’s not enough data to make a call. Yes there is enough data, and the data says global flooding. No, you’re a drive by media hack, and global flooding is your attempt to pass Hillarycare. Yes global flooding is real, and you dont care about anything but allowing corporations to poison our air and water and food and then you deny the healthcare to the children you poisoned. No we didn’t, you did. You did. You . You.. Not …..Too….Not….Too….NOT….2!!…..SNOT!!! 2!!!!

This is the actual content of the blogging about the issues by RW and his cadre of kooks for the last year, everyday, all day, with the discussion advancing just this far before lights out.

Fact.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

And now for a subject the Republicans and Democrats, liberals abd conservatives, fundies and atheists, straights, gays and transtesticles, Bush/Gore/Clinton/Obama lovers and haters, right wingers and left wingers, etc., etc., etc. can all agree on.

When is the Fulton County Coroner going to officially pronounce the Falcons dead???

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Most of the people who work at low-skilled jobs in NYC don’t live there and commute back and forth, and very few of them make the minimum wage in any case.

However, no one has a “right” to live anywhere they want.

Paul,

I do not agree that the government should mandate “affordable housing”, particularly if they mandate that new subdivisions have a mix of housing at a range of price points.

Mixing “affordable housing” in the same subdivision as higher priced homes is a disastrous experiment which ruins the value of the investment others have made in their home.

A lot of this housing was sold to buyers who funded their purchases with sub prime loans, and many of them are now being foreclosed on. Those people put no money down on their homes so they really lose nothing when they are forced to move out. However, those who are left behind who did put money down, end up having their property values destroyed.

It all sounds very nice to mandate this sort of thing but once again it is the middle class that gets screwed.

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa Fl,

The sports blog is in a another section a*******wipe!

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

The gop screwed the middle class BD.

Admit it moron, name one thing your party has done for the middle class.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa,

Transtesticles?

Were the Falcons ever alive?

ITN,

Bunch of un-patriotic scumbags.

By Lobotomy

October 16, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish doesn’t want to live with the black folks.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

My comment is about as relevent to ML’s toon as all the other comments here.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

A pack o lips…..

Why are you afraid of what’s IN THE NEWS?

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Are you libs happy with this situation?

The Corps said late Friday that it would sharply———-> increase<——— the outflow rather than reduce it as demanded earlier that day by Gov. Sonny Perdue. An increased outflow would apparently hasten the day when Lanier could no longer supply the region’s water needs.

That’s just great! I wonder what the job requirements are for these engineers? Is not holding the human species in high regard an absolute necessity?

I just heard Johnny Isaacson ask that he endangered species act be suspended until this crisis passes.

Go Johnny, go!

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

I’m not afraid of what’s in the news, I just think that you’re a total and complete idiot. You and that “twisted sister” listening to getalife. You only print the news that further your own idiotic mentality. Plus you use multiple IDs which is supremely cowardice. You don’t see the conservatives using different IDs because they aren’t afraid to confront dumba$$es like yourself head on.

By Catastrophe

October 16, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa Fl,

I’m sure there’s a nice online newspaper covering the Bucs that you can go on. Hop to it bub.

By Kurdish Stanzas

October 16, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Notice how Buy Danish or RW has NEVER quoted George Bush about any issue!

‘muff said

By Catastrophe

October 16, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Do you realize what kind of loser you would have to be to post the same d@mn message on two different blogs? I’m going to take it upon myself to find you a girlfriend,fast!

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

””“You don�t see the conservatives using different IDs because they aren�t afraid to confront dumba$$es like yourself head on.”“”

DUH???

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Score one for Obama

Go away doomed, adults talking here.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

The gop screwed the middle class BD.

… name one thing your party has done for the middle class.}}}

Tax cuts. A thriving economy. Low unemployment. Higher wages. Enhanced national security. Judicial appointments.

There would be a much longer list if you Moonbats just got out of the way and let us privatize Social Security, eliminate taxes on savings and investment, get rid of the death tax, and make other necessary reforms.

Democrats excel at two professions:

They make outstanding Regulators and Thieves.

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

What other IDs does Duh use?

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

doomed,

Take one of mine, there is only so much getalife to go around.

Don’t hate the playa.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

{{{{{P.S. Why does the President award the Congressional Gold Medal? Seems like that would be awarded by, oh, I don�t know, Congress?}}}}}-by rushncap

Of course if you read the story he linked it says members of Congress are presenting the Congressional Gold Medal. You’ve gotta love the attention to detail by our resident “scientist.”

{{{{{I wanted to know if you�d give a homeless guy a chance to work, if you�d slam the door in his face, or simply give him a handout, I wanted to see how you�d respond.}}}}}-by Bosch or borsh as the call him at Michelle’s place.

Would you like to know my shoe size and favorite color too? I’ve got a couple minutes so I’ll expound on this. I prefer for someone to work for something so if you stopped and asked to rake the yard for $10.00 and a sandwich I would let you do it. Chances are I’d give you twenty and the sandwich if you did a decent job though.

If you came to the door and simply asked for a sandwich I’d get you a sandwich. It’s the Christian thing to do.

Now if you came to the door and asked for money to buy a sandwich I would either give you a sandwich or send you on your way.

Any other whacked out questions? Although I really will be gone for most of the afternoon once my appointment that keeps getting pushed back finally happens.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

BS BD,

You created a very large debt for our kids and their kids and enflamed terrorism.

Get real loser.

You party destroyed the middle class and want their kids to die without health care.

Pro life is bs like your drivel.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

{{You don�t see the conservatives using different IDs because they aren�t afraid to confront dumba$$es like yourself head on.}

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Apock-of-lips has apparently never read Andy’s rants…

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

A pack o lip service

didn’t you recently tell us your hours had changed?

By Dusty

October 16, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Well, hold the presses!!

Cynthia McKinney is now listed as a Green Party candidate for President in the lovely state of CALIFORNIA!!!

I could have sworn that she lived in Georgia and was a Democrat.

What next? getalife will show up in California and declare himself a Green Party candidate. Or maybe in Louisiana?? Surely IN THE NEWS will let us know about these earth moving events.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

{{Tax cuts. A thriving economy. Low unemployment. Higher wages. Enhanced national security. Judicial appointments.}}

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Danish-donut and Apock-of-lips are really one and the same!

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

RW,

George Washington was the first recipient of that award.

It should go to President Clinton.

Bwa.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

So no one wants to condemn Bush for being there for the presentation of the Medal to Dalai Lama? Thought so. Hypocrites. As usual. The best anyone can do was RW’s answer to my question. He’s right for the 2nd time ever - I just scanned the article and did not realize that it was Congress that actually gave the award. But, of course, RW being the little Bushie buttboy also refused to criticize our Decider in Chief for the exact same thing that all the neocons had their panties in a wad about last week. oh so very typical.

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

If you imbeciles are referring to that guy Doom, I am not him. I am a more gentle and educated poster. It just so happens that I recognize the same idiots he did.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

You are such a freaking bore.

First of all, who is “we”?

Secondly, what do you think Socialize medicine will do for us?

I meant to add to my previous list that I still had the right to go to the Doctor and dentist of my choice whenever I choose to do so.

Here is what you get in England. If Hillary gets elected will she hand out free pliers and glue?

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

The corp. of engineers is screwing ya’ll like they did with the levees.

Krama is a b-itch.

But I prayed and rain is on the way .

By Apocalypse

October 16, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Goldie and that hooker I saw in midtown last night are one and the same.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

At least they have teeth BD.

Geez.

By RE

October 16, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

The malkin folks must have a short attention span, apparently they all left today

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

And the hooker told doomed, “not for all the money in China”.

doomed can’t get laid so is very frustrated.

Bwa.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

BLOG POLL

Do you think a pack o lips is doom?

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

My boyfriend told me that my teeth were hurting him last night so I removed them. The dentist said that I need to change my sexual habits and include more females, but I told him that if I did that there would be no further need to see him again. He changed his diagnosis.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Yes, it is doomed.

By Dusty

October 16, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

RW(the original)@ 1:54

If borsch shows up at your door wanting a sandwich, please give him one. That boy is hungry. And give him an extra one for Goldie.

I mean our poverty stricken families are only making $80,000 and who can afford sandwiches on THAT? We must open our hearts and make more sandwiches for our poor foreclosed on three story homes starving folks.

I tell you it’s a shame and them without a cent left to put on the children’s healthcare. I bet they cry themselves to sleep every night in front of the big screen plasma TV set. I’m gonna go and make a sandwich right now.

By mm

October 16, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

President Bush vetoed a children’s health care bill that would have expanded spending by $35 billion over five years, but the Republican-led Congress passed a prescription drug bill a couple years ago that cost $100 billion more than advertised. Hey, maybe if we had gotten the full truth then, we could pay for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.

Wingnut scum.

By RE

October 16, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

nope

By getalife

October 16, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

I don’t know really if its doomed or not, but whoever it is there’re irritating.

Geez.

By georgia 74

October 16, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

I prayed last night too, but damn Bush was still president this morning.

By getalife �

October 16, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

That is good wanking @ 2:24 but not mine.

2:20 was doomed like wanking.

Poor guy, a hooker turned him down.

Geez.

By Doom

October 16, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Yes, you people are fools that fall for it every single time. You just can’t ignore me. You then flower me with attention!

Of course I’m back. Fools. I never left. Idiots.

Now be good and tee up the ol’ pigskin for Lucy.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 16, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I would like to commend you for your connection between policies that help the middle class and the repeal of the “death tax.”

As you know beginning in 2009, estates larger than 3.5 million will be subject to the death tax on all estates valued at over 3.5 million. Those of us middle class tax payers are greatly concerned about these taxes as they will effect my other 7.5 million dollar estate. Some people claim that since you don’t pay a dime in taxes until you reach 3.5 million that it is somehow fair. But can I ask you, what kind of a poor b******* doesn’t have at least that in his portfolio? Probably a deadbeat lib, right? So this death tax really effects us all. (At least those who have jobs.)

Alot of libs lie about the GOP only being for the rich but as you can see, if the GOP kills the Death Tax, they will be looking out for the little people like me.

It is my hope that these tax reforms will be offset by sales taxes and fees because when a woman making $10 an hour with 3 kids buys a loaf of bread I want to know that she is paying the same 11 cents in sales taxes that I am. I mean its only fair.

RWNJIFG

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

mm

great post!

Remember that whole line about the Iraqi oil money ….. imagine what we could have done for our nation with all the money we have thrown down the occupation hole and or into the pockets of war profiteers?

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 16, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

I prayed last night that Jimmy Carter would develop a brain, that Al Gore would say ANYTHING which mades sense and that Bill and Hitlery Clinton would become human beings. None of this happend. Sometimes God just says we must endure.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Right Wing Gleefully Smears Two Yr-Old SCHIP Recipient Bethany Wilkerson Yesterday, TrueMajorityAction released an ad of 2-year old Bethany Wilkerson, who was born with a serious heart problem and received health insurance through the SCHIP program. Today, the Wilkerson family will appear with lawmakers on Capitol Hill to rally support for increased funding of the SCHIP program.

Like the Frost family, the Wilkerson family has already become the subject of right-wing attacks. Michelle Malkin � whose baseless smear campaign against 12-year old Graeme Frost was deemed too bogus for even Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) � is now trying to rally the right against Bethany.

Heralding the arrival of a �new toddler-aged human shield,� Malkin writes that �the Wilkersons made a choice� � a seeming reference to the fact that Malkin now believes she has the license to attack the Wilkersons for their public support of SCHIP. �We need more �partisan bickering,� not less,� added Malkin.

Malkin�s not alone in her rage. In a piece entitled �Meet the New Frosts, Same As the Old Frosts,� the National Review�s Mark Hemingway attacks the Wilkersons as irresponsible parents:

While the debate around the Frost family at least initially centered around their relative wealth, the issue really at hand is one of bad behavior. [�]

For Dara and Brian Wilkerson, the fact that they don�t have health insurance is less about falling through the cracks than the decisions they�ve made.

Hemingway claims that Bethany�s mother, Dara, �voluntarily left a job at a country club that had good health insurance, because the situation was �unmanageable,�� to �take a job at a restaurant with no health insurance.� He mourns the fact that the Wilkersons �went on to have a baby anyway.�

Dara Wilkerson released this statement responding to the attacks on her choice of employment:

We have seen the statement about my previous employment and here is what we have to say: I left my previous place of employment years before Bethany became part of our lives. I am a hard working woman. I have worked at Snappers Sea Grill for over 6 years. It is a good work environment and I am a loyal employee. My husband and I were blessed with Bethany two years ago and we are even more blessed to still have her with us today.

So according to this �pro-life� right-wing logic, the Wilkersons should have sacrificed having a daughter in order to stay in an �unmanag

By getalife �

October 16, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

They are debating Iraq corruption in the House.

Of course, the gop spew there is no corruption and are cheering it as usual.

Where is the American children’s health care outrage for Iraq corruption wingnuts?

Nothing but crickets.

Geez.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

How come the healthcare benefits that our Congress receives is not considered “socialized medicine”? How come Medicare is not considered “socialized medicine”?

You Neo-cons need to come up with some new scare tactics because America’s version of “socialized” healthcare is not too scary to many Americans.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

{{It is my hope that these tax reforms will be offset by sales taxes and fees }}

Nut Job @ 2:33 — I know that Dubya’s “tax cuts” means that I’m getting about $15 extra per paycheck, and Golly Gee— what a big difference that makes in my life!

Thanks for nothing, Repugs!

By getalife �

October 16, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

�We rent a house, we have one car that is a junker. Let them dig away,� Bo Wilkerson said. �I have $67 in my checking account. Does that answer your question?�

Attack that wingnut scum.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Republicans are hateful, small and petty people by nature. Based seemingly upon some dysfunctional and bizarre principle, Republicans reflexively despise anything, everything and anybody that could somehow benefit humanity. Hatred and pettiness fuel today’s Republican … oh, and let’s not forget envy.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

If W had just waited, instead of invading IRAQ and then finding out they didn’t have WMD, we could have invaded IRAN which is close to building an A-BOMB. If W had to be in one of the countries, I would rather it be Iran instead of Iraq.

Where the hell is Jack Bauer when you need him? Somehow the fictional 24 seems to get closer to reality with each passing year.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Bob 12:58

Your earlier comment, to which I responded, was on the efficacy of the Camaro.

From that you extrapolate to success in the global market (you may want to check GM Europe sales figures - there and in Russia and the former Soviet Republics - before you offer any more stunning “analysis”).

Somehow I don’t think you’re a newbie here. Offer a specific item, get a response, then use it as a platform to make a rather silly lalaLand Left ideological “statement.”

Whatever -

RE 1:01

Rather gives one pause over the future of foreign policy if the House thinks they should have greater input with a Dem President, doesn’t it?

They seem to have forgotten when Pres Clinton went to Spkr Hastert and asked him to drop the resolution - would cause difficulties with the no-fly zone. Now this.

Bosch 1:09

I debated writing this, given how some will “read into” it - but I have never, not once, experienced an Hispanic begging for money. I have seen plenty working hard at any job available, though.

In the News 1:15

[[Active-Duty Members of The US Military Will Hold a Press Conference Calling For An End to The US Occupation of Iraq}}

I wouldn’t exactly call a petition comprising seven hundredths of one percent of the military a resounding mandate -

getalife 1:16

c’mon, you know candidates have to treat any question as “serious” - but I’d like to see just one candidate say “You have the chance to ask (a candidate or the President) one question and that’s the best you can do? Do you want to think about squandered opportunities? Would you care to try again?”

And then brace for a variation of “boxers or briefs?”

Buy Danish 1:26

I agree with your subdivision thesis - but I can support it on a county-wide basis.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I’m really happy that you have a charmed life and nothing bad ever happens to you, your family, your friends, or anyone else that you are remotely acquainted with. Really, I am.

Getalife, Read my 11:07 link from the State Department - interesting stuff.

Mr. Headcase:

“Sometimes God just says we must endure”

Yes, I know. But it’s only 14 more months before our great witless wonder of a President will be gone from office - hopefully he won’t totally destroy the world before then.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa 2:49

Jack Bauer’s in the pokey for 45 days for DUI. After that he may be in rehab. Maybe then he can pencil in Iran. Unless sanctions take care of Mr. “We Don’t Got No Gays” first.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 16, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Bethany Wilkerson is not my or “our” problem. She is her parents problem, period. If we’d just let her die then other people would make better choices in the future. Our nation’s economic future depends on her death. We have to give disincentives to people who can’t afford health care by letting them know that we don’t care about thier kids.

This “it takes a village” attitude is wearing thin. The reality is that “it takes a lot of cash” and the have-nots need to stop having kids. Hell, they are genetically inferior anyway. If only the rich have kids then we can wean ourselves off of this social welfare state. The world needs ditch diggers but it doesn’t need ditch digger’s kids too.

RWNJIFG

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, I forgot about sanctions. They always work don’t they?

That would be 45 days for you or me. 24 is how many hours of his 45 day sentence he will serve.

By getalife �

October 16, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

The House is voting on a resolution for the State, Dept. to cooperate with a Iraqi corruption investigation.

In other words, it is demanding Condi to stop covering up this corruption.

Yes folks and some gop are voting against it. If this is not a broken governmernt, I have no idea what is.

Geez.

By @@

October 16, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

That Caspian Sea Summit is the damndest thing I’ve ever seen.

(((Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also underlined the need for solidarity.)))

(((�The Caspian Sea is an inland sea and it only belongs to the Caspian states, therefore only they are entitled to have their ships and military forces here,�� he said.)))

(((A State Department spokesman, Tom Casey, said the United States is not planning military action against Iran over its allegations that the Islamic Republic is attempting to build a nuclear bomb.)))

(((�We are pursuing a diplomatic course with respect to Iran that includes … its nuclear program as well as with respect to its support for terrorism and other issues that are out there,�� Casey said.)))

(((Meanwhile, Putin on Tuesday refused to set a date for the start-up of Iran�s first nuclear power plant, which is being built by Russia.)))

(((�I only gave promises to my Mom when I was a small boy,�� Putin told Iranian reporters when asked whether he could promise that the plant would be launched before his term ends next May.)))

(((At the same time, he said, �we are not going to renounce our obligations.��)))

(((Putin�s careful stance suggested that Russia is seeking to preserve solid ties with Iran without angering the West. A clear pledge by Putin to quickly finish the plant would embolden Iran and could complicate international talks on the nuclear standoff.)))

(((The legal status of the Caspian _ believed to contain the world�s third-largest energy reserves _ has been in limbo since the 1991 Soviet collapse, leading to tension and conflicting claims to seabed oil deposits.)))

(((Iran, which shared the Caspian�s resources equally with the Soviet Union, insists that each coastal state receive an equal portion of the seabed. Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan want the division based on the length of each country�s shoreline, which would give Iran a smaller share.)))

All of that after Putin offered Azerbaijan as a possible alternative to U.S. anti-ballistic missile sites in Europe?????

Maybe not the damndest thing, but pretty damned close to the damndest thing.

Ahmadenijad is either desperate or stupid to be dealing with Putin. Whatta chump!

Interesting though….very interesting!!!!

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Paul, They are taking away our jobs, remember? They don’t have to beg for work.

Hispanics work like dogs for very little pay. Mexico has got to be the nastiest place I’ve ever seen.

The welfare comments I made this morning reminded me of this guy that shows up at our house every now and then and asks to rake our yard, mow our grass, etc. All he wants is $10 and a sandwich. I’ve given him shoes, clothes, etc. he’s a nice guy.

I know it wasn’t totally relevant to the conversation, I really think that most normal people are basically the same, just difference of opinions sometimes.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

John in Tampa

You’re not suggesting celebs have different treatment under the law, are you? Maybe Jack’ll get an anxiety attack…

My understanding is the Pres has had the authority for years to order a freeze in investment in Iran. Not just direct investment, but investments //in any company// doing business with Iran. Several state pension funds are divesting. Others aren’t with the excuse “we need to get the highest return for our investors.” Rather brings up the “capitalism, no moralism” thoughts.

Look at the Iraq sanctions before the war. Germany, Russia, France in it up to our eyeballs. First jet we lost to fire was brought down by a French missile. Dirty capitalists.

But now we have new German and French leadership. Funny, many of those who criticized Pres Bush’s “don’t consult with our allies” actions, now, when faced with a French gov’t contemplating an attack on Iran - and hostile remarks from Germany - now attack French and German leaders!

It ain’t the consultation or lack thereof. It’s the ideology.

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 16, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Goldie you have it all wrong, you libs are the ones using scare tactics by asserting that people die in the streets every day and that little children and old people are routinely denied health care. The as thing about your scare tactics is that they are based in NOTHING. Please cite concrete examples of how people are denied healthcare in this country. In fact, I can cite many examples of how that exact thing does happen in nations with your much vaunted ‘socialized, single payer’ system. In fact, 20% of all people diagnosed early with colon cancer in the United Kingdom end up dying because of lack of treatment. Yesterday new statistics came out here that cancer mortality rates are dropping like a stone because of early detection and treatment - something that is happening in a ‘free-market.’ I know that really offends your Marxist-Leninist sensiblities! The truth hurts scare-monger.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

All I know is Brian Nichols is trying to get a change of venue to Los Angeles for some reason.

By getalife �

October 16, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

21 gop voted to cover up corruption in Iraq.

Score one for Waxman and good luck trying to get more billions to waste in Iraq but the wingnuts chose to scream about American children�s freaking health care.

Where is your your outrage on the waste of a trillion of your money in Iraq?

Crickets��

chirp��.

chirp�..

Geez.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Bosch 3:20

That human element gets lost. I really think some people are just blind to all the work being done by many illegals. I don’t have any problem with having an orderly work permit system. But between the “ship’em back” of the farright and the “let’em come” of the lalaland Left I think the situation, and the rhetoric, will get worse.

I think you have the right idea about what to do with things you don’t need any more. We just got a new sofa - old one was fine, style and color didn’t match with new decorating - and had a crew here doing some work. I asked the foreman if he had a guy on his crew, with a family, didn’t have much, who could use it. He did and he took it away in his truck. I could have inflated the value and taken it as a charitable write-off (can’t resist - remember the $5 underwear a certain candidate donated?) - but heck, that family gets a lot more benefit from the sofa than I would from a deduction.

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

WSB: Dump Hannity!

We’ll see you this Saturday! Me and several fellow travelers will be the ones out front with the “Dump Sean Hannity’s Hate Show” and “Rehire Ludlow!” signs.

(I’ll bet that “fellow traveler” reference really sets off the wingnuts!!).

By Paul

October 16, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Truthman

What are you talking about, comrade?

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase, It’s the cost of healthcare and the paying of it that is the problem.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 16, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

luckovichisaheadcase,

WTF is “free market” about showing up at an emergency room without health insurance and getting medical care? Yeah its free, but it ain’t free market. What is free market about Medicare for the elderly or Medicaid for the poor? None of these things are free market, they are socialism pure and simple. What the libs want to do is to have us stop paying emergency room prices for poor people since, as you say, they are going to be treated anway. Thier question is why pay for poor people’s care in the most expensive manner? If you are going to treat them anyway, then make them part of the system where these poor b******* can go to a regular doctor and get preventive care, treatment and screenings.

However, my suggestion is to really have a free market system whereby you get treatment if and only if you can afford it. That is a free market system. Anything else is socialism and you damn well know it comrade. Stand up for your free market principles or just admit you are a communist jackazz.

I’m sick and tired of hearing so-called conservatives try to hold back the tide of socialism by defending a status quo which is already socialized.

Here is the question: Some poor idiot shows up at the hospital with a gun shot wound. He has no money and no insurance. Do you treat him gby spending our tax dollars or not? If you say yes then your are a socialist. If you say no, then you are a good American.

RWNJIFG

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Paul, I think you are totally right about the human element getting lost.

If more people practiced this:

“Will you strive for justice and peace among all people, and respect the dignity of every human being?”

I think we’d all be a lot happier.

By Truthman

October 16, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

I beleive we progressives can get WSB to dump Sean Hannity if:

1). We show up outside their studios (1601 Peachtree St.) with signs proclaiming Sean Hannity is an enemy combatant and that WSB should dump him in the interest of humanity.

2). We boycott the companies advertising on his hate-filled, lie-filled program AND we let those advertisers KNOW that we are boycotting them.

It’s worked for the Religious Wrong! Let’s just borrow a page from their playbook.

DUMP SEAN HANNITY, WSB, DUMP SEAN HANNITY!!!

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Oh and another thing Mr. Headcase,

There are PLENTY of patients here who have to wait on treatment. Trust me.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Head Case @ 3:24 — yes, plenty of poor people in America go to the hospital emergency rooms to get any medical treatment, sometimes waiting for about 10 to 12 hours to get treated. Sometimes actually getting the treatment they need in time to prevent them “dying in the street”, as you put it.

And who do you think is paying for their ER treatment in reality? It’s you and me, or at least those who do have medical insurance, because do you think that the insurance companies are going to fork over any $$$ out of their CEO’s pockets and lose their all-important profit??? Hell no — and the hospital administrators are gonna make sure they get paid, so they keep increasing the cost of an aspirin to $25 a tablet, all to help “pay” for the uninsured… some great system we have here, huh?

But an even bigger problem is when the health insurance companies WILL NOT PAY for treatment for those they they HAVE INSURED and written policies for… America needs to work on getting the insurance industry out of making the decisions about what treatments they will and will not cover. Kinda like how Medicare works now— you know, how it pays for my Mom’s hip replacement surgery because her doctor says she needs it or else she’ll be a real cripple… rather than saying, “no, we can’t pay for that in America because that would be socialized medicine!”

What a real frigging Head Case you are. You and your faulty scare tactics about “socialism” and “no one’s dying in the street” — tell that to the people living down at the Union Mission.

By RE

October 16, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Aside from the obvious, what is wrong with hannity now?

By mr goreboto

October 16, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Gore invented the internets which brought all these homo sapiens together here today. Gore has constructed that slippery slope which will converge all of mankind into a valley of perpetual harmony and peace in a mud hole of the redneck olympics.

Now, in this decade, this Godly man of all men will bring his powers together in one defining moment to rid the world of pollution, warmth and hannity.

Now, all please bow and pray as we will be given future days our daily bread by none other than Al Gore, alien and savior of the homo sapiens, clean air, cool weather, more rain and the end of the hannity show. amen

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

{{However, my suggestion is to really have a free market system whereby you get treatment if and only if you can afford it. That is a free market system.}}

Nut Job — you’re making way too much Neo-con “sense” once again. It’s all about who can PAY for the profits, and as a rule it’s certainly not children, old people, and those who work at Dunkin Donuts, hmmm???

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Your 3:50 reminds me of something.

Good Old Number Four

1.Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

2.Blessed are the meek, for they shall possess the earth.

3.Blessed are they who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

4.Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be satisfied.

5.Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

6.Blessed are the clean of heart, for they shall see God.

7.Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.

8.Blessed are they who suffer persecution for justice’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

9.Blessed are you when men reproach you, and persecute you, and speaking falsely, say all manner of evil against you, for my sake.

By Kurdish Stanzas

October 16, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

that’s not why I used multiple id’s, DropsWithWolves.

I dont think you’d understand, so I wont go there.

But know you’re always upset when you fail to recognize one of my aliases. You make such a rubbernosed clown out of yourself, I just cant disappoint the folks who are laughing so roundly at you.

So you become the butt of jokes, instead of the respected blogger you deserve to be.

I did this to you. Because you were there. Deal.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Iraq’s Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki asked the U.S. State Department to “pull Blackwater out of Iraq,” saying the private contractors committed unprovoked and random killings in a September 16 shooting, an adviser to al-Maliki told CNN.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Via Atrios

Tipping point? Rep. Stafford,

Was there a tipping point or issue that ultimately caused you to decide to switch parties?

by: Kerri Rebresh @ Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 11:07:35 AM CDT [ Reply ]

thanks Kerri Yes, a series of issues. I voted to support the concerns of citizens in my district in the homebuilder construction defect bill. I was lobbied heavily to vote no on the bill but chose to honor the citizens of my district. It escalated as I confronted the heavy handed lobbying tactics. It culminated with anger that I voted yes on the bill against one of the major funders of the GOP.

In June, 8 democrats and myself had a frivolous campaign finance complaint filed against us. Mine was $208 thank you ad in the newspaper. The complaint was filed by the homebuilders and a republican attorney that now represents the house minority.

I was told that they wanted to make it look bipartisan and that’s why they harrassed me. The Republicans then hired another GOP attorney to defend me against the complaint. I was later told that it was an action by my own party’s leadership to bring the complaint against me. I was then told my atorney, if I poke my finger in the eye of our major donors I will have a problem.

I made up my mind that I was no longer an accepted member of the Republican party. I don’t mind if somebody is mad at me but get over it.

It reminds me of the book “Battered into Submission” and I don’t respond to battering

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

ITN, Just so you know, in case you didn’t, that’s from the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer - Baptismal Covenant, page 305.

I always kind of liked that part of the prayer. Sometimes certain prayers can make you stop and think, “Yeah, that’s good, I really like that.”

But other times like this one, here’s another one of my favorites:

“God of all power, Ruler of the Universe, you are worthy of glory and praise”

That makes me chuckle a little, it kind of makes me think that at any moment God will appear dressed in tights and a cape and will save everyone from some unforseen doom.

I do like the Beautitudes though, those are definitely a passage that makes you stop, ponder, and realize what is right, wrong, and just plain good.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

This crusty old agnostic appreciates the wisdom of the Beatitudes.

For me, they are a guide to living the real good life.

By AmVet

October 16, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

IMHO, the failings of Republican policy are essentially because they are not pragmatic, but moralistic, driven not by ethics, but dogma.

And this is true whether the issue is abortion, gay rights, the “war”, affordable insurance, or virtually any other; the process is the same.

Their current reactionary, exclusionary and prohibitionist stance have been nearly universally discredited as both unworkable and immoral.

And over the past thirty years it has become obvious that this “conservative” strategy leads inevitably to the polarization and near complete gridlock that the country now endures.

Spot lighting wedge issues and spinning failures into successes are the new norm and are infinitely easier than actually working on resolving the variety of daunting tasks that face this country.

But intractability and imperious pigheadedness are no way to effectively govern and the American people are sick of it as evidenced by last November’s elections.

And this coming one may well spell the death knell for this disastrous ideology.

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Hey Doom - how’s it going?

Why all the drama about leaving?

Welcome back.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Malkin and Limbaugh and O’Reilly! Oh my!

By Paul

October 16, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Dick Morris (whom many here dismiss as he’s highly critical of Hillary) thinks Gore can beat Hillary.

Link: (Al Gore can beat Hillary)[http://www.vote.com/mmp_printerfriendly.php?id=510}

I’d imagine Guiliani would have an easier time of it against Hillary than against Gore.

Hillary or Gore: both make great cartoon caricatures.

By @@

October 16, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

Alrighty, can I share a second-hand personal account with you? Nevermind, I’m going to anyway…

Close friend of mine lives in predominantly black community in Atlanta. A guy knocks on his front door asking to do yardwork. My friend, being a caring person hoping to make a difference, offers the guy $15.00 to rake up the magnolia leaves in his yard. The guy does a great job. My friend tells him to come back the next day to help lay plastic under his house. Guy says O.K., I’ll be here at 8:30 a.m.

Next day 8:30 a.m. passes…9:30…10:30. At 11:00 my friend goes under the house alone to do the work. Next day, my friend goes to the corner barber shop to ask the barber if he had seen (insert name here). The barber told my friend that (insert name here) was found dead of a drug overdose.

My friend was devastated thinking that the guy may have used the $15.00 to buy drugs.

That ^^^ is life in the “real world” Bosch.

In case you did not see my scripture from the other night…

And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, so that you may be able to discern what is best (Philippians 1:9-10).

My friend doesn’t attend church. Maybe if he did he would have received the gift of discernment. Who knows, it might have prolonged a life to fight a drug addiction another day.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

ITN @ 4:26,

4 Lies in one Media Matters’ sentence. That may be a record, even for them.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

doomed is a drama queen.

Where is the gop plan on health care?

Is it MIA like lazy fred on the campaign trail?

At least, have a plan of your own before bashing the one on the table.

Geez.

By Steve Wills

October 16, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Amvet: dont mistake ideology for “speaking to your base”, as most republicans do, including the Cheneys (gay daughter).

Bush said he vetoed SCHIP because he wants to put the “poor kids first”.

Putin believed those wild rumors about assassination. Putin is a loose cannon on the world stage.

Rush limbaugh literally ran out of things to say today and started just recording sound bites from congress, and he played those and made animal noises at them. It’s a long campaign, you know? There’s gonna be casualties.

Partisan Perplexity is not Pretty.

By AmVet

October 16, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

{{I just heard Johnny Isaacson (sic) ask that he endangered species act be suspended until this crisis passes.}}

Perish the thought, but if I were our junior Senator I’d be much more concerned in getting myself off of that list! Does he not read the papers or watch the news?

Neo-cons themselves are in grave danger of extinction!

Indeed, go Johnny go - back to Marietta whence you came…

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Speaking of “peacemakers”, let us all take a moment and imagine how different the world might be today if Bush had not been installed by the Supremes back in 2000:

We might actually have captured Bin Laden and his terrorist cronies, all by keeping our allies around the world with us in pursuit of the ones who were the real threat to civilization…

We would not be squandering all of our children’s lives and tax dollars in a quagmire in Iraq with no end in sight…

We might actually be working with industries on what it means to “go green” and “make mucho profits” and “get off the oil teat in the Middle East”, all by developing energies sources that are self-sustaining…

We might actually be saving everyone enormous tax dollars by not giving away BILLIONS to corporate honchos with their welfare benefits…

We would still be the “beacon of the world” and respected for our true American values by having a real leader like Al Gore in the White House, by putting people ahead of profits, and by not EVER condoning torture of prisoners in our care, because that’s never been the way of America…

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

BD

No facts @ 4:37

Same old, Same Old

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Here’s one for the hyperbolic hysteretics!

Randi Rhodes jumped by 14 Ketel Ones.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

ITN,

Niether Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin, Bill O’Reilly or Ann Coulter did any of the things they are accused of doing.

How’s that?

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Hillary will beat Rudy in ‘08 because Rudy’s still Bush-kissing today and cannot stop himself… so it keeps coming back to the same question: who in the Repug Party represents CHANGE from Bush’s policies? Rudy? Miffed? Freddie? McCan’t?

And Al Gore would beat Rudy and any other Repug in the General, simply because he’s NOT Rudy or any of the other Repugs. Goes back to the same question re: CHANGE.

Very simple really, how it will work in ‘08…

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Via Think Progress

Despite Calling Himself A �Strong� Supporter Of SCHIP As TX Gov, Bush Sought To Limit The Program Before President Bush vetoed a bipartisan expansion of the State Children�s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), he held a press conference on Sept. 20 to try to bully Congress into caving to his demands, calling them �irresponsible.� During the presser, he also declared �I have strongly supported S-CHIP as a governor, and I have done so as President.�

Bush�s claim to being a �strong� supporter of SCHIP as governor of Texas is laughable, according to former Texas Observer reporter Lou Dubose. Writing in the Washington Spectator yesterday, Dubose details how Bush tried to limit the program, setting the qualifying threshold at 150% of the poverty level, which would have insured only 300,000 of Texas� 1.4 million uninsured kids:

Other Republican governors, such as Florida governor Jeb Bush, set the qualifying threshold at 200 percent of the national poverty level. Some went higher. In New Jersey, Governor Christine Todd Whitman, whom Bush would appoint as his first director of the Environmental Protection Agency, set the threshold at 300 percent, opening the program up to greater numbers of children. [�]

The Democratic legislature prepared to budget for enrollment at 200 percent, which would have opened the program up to 500,000 of the state�s 1.4 million uninsured kids. Bush drew the line at 150 percent, which would have insured 300,000 kids.

Eventually, Bush yielded to political pressure and agreed �to the Democrats� plan, with its enrollment of 500,000 children in the program.� After the bill was signed, Bush told one Democratic legislator, �Congratulations, you shoved it down our throat.�

As Dubose noted in a 1999 Nation article, at the same time Bush was fighting efforts to cover more children, he was also pushing �a tax break for oil-well owners.�

By Judy

October 16, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Steve, Putin finally showed up in Russia, but his message is counter to US policy. Peaceful use of nukes sounds good, but it’s too vague to stop the proliferation of enriched material for being made into super-kabooms.

Oh, check out how hot things are in Turkey. THey want to ‘fiddyCent’ the Kurdish Separatists who are now massed on their borders. Turkey is as mad as hornets about the kurds and also, the US congress’s language condemning the armenian genocide is making Turkey feel like they have nothing to lose by “fiddyCenting” all the swarthy kurds in Iraq.

Who was it that kept saying, “Google the Kurds” if we wanted to know what was dead ahead for Iraq? He was a visionary. He kept saying that over and over years ago. I guess this guy was some sort of geo-political genius, eh?

Oh, well, I really do have a tennis match. Adieux. (to U and U and U and yieux )

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 16, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

What is sad is that if W could run for a third term he would still get MILLIONS of votes and that is really scary.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Considering that it’s well-documented that all 4 did what they’re accused of (with the possible exception of O’Reilly, I’m not certain there), Muffin is clearly lying herself. And, speaking as a Jew, if that harpy wants me “perfected” I can explain, in detail, what she can shove, and where.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Judy and Steve are idiots who think Putin was scared to go see his ally in Iran.

Stick to tennis morons.

By IN THE NEWS

October 16, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

I am underwhelmed by Buy Danish’s facts.

By @@

October 16, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Ake G. Blomqvist has written a paper on Canadian Health Care in a Global Context. Canadians aren’t pleased with “their socialized” healthcare and are looking for a way out. What seemed to be a great idea has turned out not to be so great over time.

Why would we want to emulate their plan when they’re out to emulate ours.

(((If we thought we were sure of anything about public opinion, it was that most Canadians think this country has a better health care system than the United States. But as any reader of recent newspapers must be aware, we are not uniformly happy about our system. As we increasingly have difficulty finding a family doctor, as waiting times to see a specialist or get an MRI become longer, and as more and more people go to the United States for certain kinds of treatment, Canadians are becoming increasingly critical of our health care system. At the same time provincial politicians complain about its high cost, and some leading physicians leave the country to practice in better-equipped facilities in the United States. As the critical voices grow in number, some among them will, from time to time, ask the heretical question: would we do well to emulate some aspects of the US system?)))

(((In this lecture, I take an intermediate position in that I pay considerable attention to the possibility that recent US developments and policy initiatives may contain important lessons for Canadian health policy. Concrete, specific ideas for changes in Canada are probably most like to come from European experience. However, many of the policies that have been adopted or debated recently in countries such as the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Sweden can ultimatelyl be traced to ideas and principles central to the economic analysis of healthcare in the United States. To the extent that some of the most actively debated reform proposals are implemented in these European countries, their health care systems will, in some respects, become more like the US one.)))

By Judy

October 16, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Cnn just reported that Putin indeed delayed his trip to Iran over a threat he saw on you tube video. Here is the video’s translation of the threat, which you can watch by clicking on this quote: “Yo, Putin, I gonna fiddyCent a cap in your cracker azz, word bru…”

simply click on the translation which originaly was spoken in Farci.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

@@,

Here is a true story . A guy came to the front door to rake leaves, I hired him to mow the yard this year.

He said he had a job interview so I gave him money to buy a suit and he got the job. He is doing well.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

In The News 4:26

I’d saved this for getalife, but it’s for you, too. I’m really, really disappointed in Media Matters. Same for DailyKos, ThinkProgress and MoveOn. They are ignoring the salient points to make their case - they do not highlight the most egregious, factual, verifiable excesses of the rightwing neocon neanderthals.

Bill O Reilly was on Leno last Friday (okay, I’d recorded it to watch Christina Applegate but Bill was on, too). Here’s the exchange with Leno:

L - Al Gore won the Nobel Peace prize. What do you think?

B - I’m happy for Al. He’s an Oscar winner, Emmy and now, Nobel Peace Prize. It’s a politically correct play, Al Gore’s running around the world in a private jet but that’s all right.

L - But that’s the only -

B - That’s right, that’s the only way to go. You been to the airport lately?

L - What would the critics say, take a sailboat?

B - Yeah, you gotta get there and I think he’s doing a good thing because the planet is dirty. Let’s clean it up. I don’t know how this became a partisan issue. Who doesn’t want a cleaner planet?

L - Sometimes I’ll listen to different radio shows and I’ll hear a bunch of conservative guys vehemently against global warming -

B - How can you be against global warming?

L - Why not be self sufficient so you can screw the electric company?

B - yeah, or the gas and oil. I’m not going to get a partisan issue on this but I think the anger toward Al Gore is that he blames America for this when China and India are the real big coming polluters and he doesn’t mention that. There’s a lot of propaganda in it. You know Cheney and Bush - they’re throwing stuff out of the White House all the time. I think there’s insanity on both sides. The Left tries to blame it on Bush because he wants filthy things. And the Right says Oh no, there isn’t global warming and meanwhile the polar bear is floating down the Mississippi River. I used to play ice hockey two months a year on Long Island and now you’re lucky if you get two days. So there is global warming. The temperature says it. Now whether it’s manmade or the deity we don’t know but lets get a cleaner planet. Let’s all get together and clean it up., So Right On, Al Gore (audience app

By Change in the air

October 16, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

(W) worest EVER. Right wing you will have eight years to deal with the left wing. Get ready!!!!!!

By Paul

October 16, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

rushncap 4:59

The restaurant referenced was Sylvia’s. O’Reilly was having dinner there with Rev Sharpton. The remarks were made setting up an interview with Juan Williams (African-American) who’d written a book for some solutions for black America. OR was speaking of stereotypes - how they’re wrong, cause fear and are perpetuated by many rap singers and the media - who give many negative portrayals of African Americans.

Rev Sharpton didn’t criticize OR. Jesse Jackson was on his show a week later for a half hour (Hey! Remember all those clips, transcripts and comments about their discussion repeated on ThinkProgress, MediaMatters, MoveOn etc? Remember? You don’t? Funny….). They discussed it - notice how Rev Jackson didn’t issue a condemnation of BOR?

‘Nuther issue - Rev Jackson was on BOR? I thought only (fill in the derogatory term) went on BOR. Rev Jackson did a fine interview. But Hillary won’t. Go figure.

By @@

October 16, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Mine was a true story too Getalife.

Semper used to have to wear suits to work, now he doesn’t.

I gave all his suits to a guy who had none but was looking for a job. I have no idea if he got a job or not. He was just a stranger who stopped by the clothing bank at our church but couldn’t find any that fit him. Semper’s were a perfect fit.

Life comes with successes and failures Getalife. Wouldn’t it be great if we had a crystal ball that would prevent us from contributing to weak failings such as (insert name here)? Who knows what good he could have done had he lived another day?

By Judy

October 16, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Cnn Just reported that Bush admitted that he had second thoughts about Iraq. Bush is apparently going to voice those regrets in a speech friday night in primetime. There are reports that he’s going to ask the television audience, (america), for a show of hands to decide whether to pull out or not.

sounds like george bush 2me

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

Looks like I’m not the only one who’s not enamored of that big $15 tax break I got from Dubya:

Generation gap: After paying the bills, middle-class pockets are empty

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

@@, That’s a really tragic story. I would feel bad too thinking my money had gone to buy the guy drugs and then he died.

True story: A friend of mine who was strung out on meth asked me for a ride once, it turns out he didn’t want to go to the particular house I drove him to, but rather the empty one next door, he broke into it and robbed the family blind for drug money. I was afraid the police would come after me, but they didn’t. He’s still in jail now.

There are lots of true stories like that and like getalife’s story.

I don’t believe you have to attend church in order to be insightful, sometimes you can get totally duped.

The guy who shows up at my door to do yard work now attends my church periodically. This is kind of a funny story, I was upstairs at church cleaning up after a reception, and an older lady came up and was horrified because there was a “fishy” looking guy downstairs, and described him, my daughter who had seen the “fishy” guy had seen him and said, “Oh, that’s just [insert name here], I saw him earlier.” The older lady was kind of embarrassed that she was scared of him and my daughter wasn’t.

On another note - it appears Turkey is p!ssed.

By Luckoduh

October 16, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

The Duh Report comes to you today from the pinko infested province of Chicago, where the women all look sexually deporessed and the men look longingly at eachother.

To prove my point that you libs are spineless kowards, I light up a 7� long Romeo Y Julieta 1875 Churchill in broad daylight, daring any of these gutless wonders to shake a finger at me.

They all scattered.

~~~~~~~

{{{{Air America radio host Randi Rhodes is temporarily off the air, but claims she was brutally attacked near her Manhattan apartment are bogus, her lawyer and a police source said today.}}}}

She fell over her dog.

Who does this lib think she is, Tawana Brawley?

{{{{“Is this an attempt by the right-wing, hate machine to silence one of our own?” he asked on the air, according to Talking Radio, a blog. “Are we threatening them? Are they afraid that we�re winning? Are they trying to silence intimidate us?”}}}}

Yes, I�ll just bet that Limbaugh lays awake a night worried bout losing those two listeners of Air America�s, you libs have kneecapped him, leaving the man with only 19,999,998 people tuning into his show.

Check it out, isn�t it an inbred kneejerk reaction that these panty waists have to blame everything on the �Right?�

Even to the extent of making things up?

What else is BS?

~~~~~~

{{{{Another recent statement by the Iraqi Jihad Union described how al Qaeda attacked and killed women and children and IJU fighters, then dug up the graves of the victims and paraded through town with their mutilated corpses. (See www.nefafoundation.com). It is this kind of behavior that is alienating Iraqis and driving an increasing number of them to join coalition forces in taking up arms against al Qaeda. And much if not all of it is directly attributable to the changes in strategy instituted by Gen. Petraeus. In this context, it was somewhat bizarre to listen to Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the former top commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, who on Friday delivered a rambling speech attacking the war and declaring that the United States cannot achieve victory. “The best we can do with this flawed approach is stave off defeat,” he said. Asked about this, Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, recounted how, during his visits to Baghdad starting in 2003, Gen. Sanchez would insist that U.S. forces were not being overstretched, and that National Guard and Reser

By Luckoduh

October 16, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Ooops, continued:

{{{{Asked about this, Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, recounted how, during his visits to Baghdad starting in 2003, Gen. Sanchez would insist that U.S. forces were not being overstretched, and that National Guard and Reserves were not being strained. We know now that Gen. Sanchez was badly mistaken, and it is unfortunate that he is now sniping at Gen. Petraeus, who is cleaning up the mess his predecessors’ flawed military strategy helped create.}}}}

By getalife

October 16, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

@@,

I use duh as my crsytal ball. Whatever he spews, the opposite is the truth. You can bet on it.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Paul — I’m well aware of the BOR story. I think he might have been commenting on the fact that hey, not all black people live up to stereotypes, but I’m not certain. However, the other 3 examples are certainly all true, none are misconstrued or taken out of context.

As for BOR himself, I don’t know why Jesse appeared on his show, but my guess is it’s because Jesse is a media wh0re. To say that Hillary Clinton should debase herself because hey! Sharpton and Jesse did it too is an insult to her. BOR is scum, those who love and watch him are idiots.

By Doom

October 16, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Putin really thought some kurdish renegade was going to fiddyCent a cap in his sorry azz. I wonder if Putin delayed his trip because he felt in danger.

I wonder what it means to the world situation when a leader alters his plans over a rumor?

Wasn’t there some sort of doomsday prediction about rumors of war?

By RE

October 16, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

It’s official, andy has proclaimed it.

Sanchez is now another phoney soldier.

Let us all bask in the glory of Petreus, the only real soldier left.

Why do the rightwingers have to smear the military all the time?

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

If anyone is having water troubles, let me know, I have plenty pouring out of shower, through the wall, and down into the basement.

Can’t find a plumber who wants to work.

I wish I had a crystal ball too, or just one of those toy Eight Balls. Maybe I could find a plumber.

It’s almost Lou Dobbs time! That is some real entertainment. That man is completely crazy.

By @@

October 16, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Your 5:39 is loaded with possibilities Getalife. Let’s take Duh’s stance on homosexuality….

He views it as an unnatural phenomenon.

You view it as __???? Doesn’t that throw a wrench in your argument against Senator Craig?

Doom was right about you afterall!!!!

By Paul

October 16, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh - getalife

Most of the reports in the media were of his war assessment - completely absent were his criticisms of the press. Here’s the complete transcript of his speech:

Link: [Gen Sanchez in Iraq and the Press]*(http://www.militaryreporters.org/sanchez_101207.html)

Some of the gems to the reporters:

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE ISSUED ULTIMATUMS TO SOME OF YOU FOR UNSCRUPULOUS REPORTING THAT WAS SOLELY FOCUSED ON SUPPORTING YOUR AGENDA AND PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS OF WHAT OUR MILITARY HAD DONE.

LET ME REVIEW SOME OF THE DESCRIPTIVE PHRASES THAT HAVE BEEN USED BY SOME OF YOU THAT HAVE MADE MY PERSONAL INTERFACES WITH THE PRESS CORPS DIFFICULT:

“DICTATORIAL AND SOMEWHAT DENSE”,

“NOT A STRATEGIC THOUGHT”,

LIAR,

“DOES NOT GET IT” AND

THE MOST INEXPERIENCED LTG.

IN SOME CASES I HAVE NEVER EVEN MET YOU, YET YOU FEEL QUALIFIED TO MAKE CHARACTER JUDGMENTS THAT ARE COMMUNICATED TO THE WORLD.

THIS IS THE WORST DISPLAY OF JOURNALISM IMAGINABLE BY THOSE OF US THAT ARE BOUND BY A STRICT VALUE SYSTEM OF SELFLESS SERVICE, HONOR AND INTEGRITY. ALMOST INVARIABLY, MY PERCEPTION IS THAT THE SENSATIONALISTIC VALUE OF THESE ASSESSMENTS IS WHAT PROVIDED THE EDGE THAT YOU SEEK FOR SELF AGRANDIZEMENT OR TO ADVANCE YOUR INDIVIDUAL QUEST FOR GETTING ON THE FRONT PAGE WITH YOUR STORIES! AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOUR MEASURE OF WORTH IS HOW MANY FRONT PAGE STORIES YOU HAVE WRITTEN AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF YOU WILL COMPROMISE YOUR INTEGRITY AND DISPLAY QUESTIONABLE ETHICS AS YOU SEEK TO KEEP AMERICA INFORMED

OVER THE COURSE OF THIS WAR TACTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT EVENTS HAVE BECOME STRATEGIC DEFEATS FOR AMERICA BECAUSE OF THE TREMENDOUS POWER AND IMPACT OF THE MEDIA AND BY EXTENSION YOU THE JOURNALIST. IN MANY CASES THE MEDIA HAS UNJUSTLY DESTROYED THE INDIVIDUAL REPUTATIONS AND CAREERS OF THOSE INVOLVED

There’s more, and better. No links from mainstream media, MoveOn, NYT, ThinkProgress, though.

But the press isn’t biased, right? Just the facts?

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Do they have a special dictionary they distribute to all neocons that simply omits the term “hypocrite”? I mean, honestly, is there any other logical explanation?

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

You’re a Jew but you’re not a religious Jew so you can cease and desist with the phony outrage.

By the way, my sister, a Christian, married a Jew and according to the Torah, her kid isn’t a Jew, so I guess they’re not “perfect” either.

Waaaaaaaaaaaah! How offensive!

ITN,

I dare not give you too many details or you might stub your toe in rage.

But hey, I tell you what. Why don’t you tell me (or us) how Rush did what Media Matters claimed he did.

Okey dokey, jokey?

By Dusty

October 16, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

bosch 3:03

I suppose your story about the sandwich man is to show the world how much you care about humanity? Because I disagree with you means tnat I don’t care about others?

Did it ever occur to you that I, and many others, think we disagree on BAD political policy?

No, I don’t give out sandwiches because no one comes to my door asking for any. I have heard that was a practive back in the 1930 depression, not now.

You do not know anything about my life in connection to helping others and I do not care to tell you. Why should I? It is boasting. You don’t seem to know that.

Keep giving out sandwiches. You might be interested in “Bread for the World” but I doubt it. They are an organization that helps people around this earth get “sandwiches” and they do the real thing.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Sorry to hear about your plumbing problems. Why don’t you put a sign on your front door offering a free sandwich to anyone who can help you out?

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Muffin, you’re a b!tch, but I don’t tell you to live in a kennel… so I guess we’re even, eh? You can also desist with the phony christianity, you’re about as Christian as Scooby Doo.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Bosch

For Pete’s Sake, go out to the street and turn off your main water valve!!!

rushncap - yeah, that was exactly what he said - the stereotypes are wrong and promote fear, we’re all the same, everywhere you go. Rev Jackson? I’m not sure what prompted it, but it was a very good half hour discussion on race relations. Lots of give and take.

O’Reilly? Promotes environmentalism. Big Bush critic. Big Rep Congress critic. Congratulates Gore. Goes after criminals who abuse kids and judges who let them off. You have an interesting definition of scum, rushncap.

Let’s try that link without the asterisk

Link: Gen Sanchez in Iraq and the Press

By @@

October 16, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

Never has this truth been more evident than right here on ml’s blog.

The factions are, for the moment, reconciled. Al-Queda offensives, if they ever existed, fizzled out.

And in recent weeks… almost nothing. Suddenly, Iraq is not a topic. Achievements in the field have gone unmentioned in a media that couldn’t get enough of car bombs, IEDs, massacres, and assassinations. The focus has shifted to the domestic: the endless campaign, bogus “health-care” bills, Al Gore’s latest prize.

ml’s leftist bloggers recognized at Yahoo News.

Guess that makes you Yahoos.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

duh,

Cheap cigar but go to the bars and run that mouth and they will not scatter.

@@,

Duh has never been right on anything.

Paul,

The media deserved it.

RE,

They hate the troops who speak their minds.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Speaking of “hypocrisy”, what do you call this?

{{{�Hillary�s defense activities ranged from the inspirational to the microscopic to the down and dirty. She received memos about the status of various press inquiries; she vetted senior campaign aides; and she listened to a secretly recorded audiotape of a phone conversation of Clinton critics plotting their next attack.}}}

�The tape contained discussions of another woman who might surface with allegations about an affair with Bill,� Gerth and Van Natta wrote in reference to Clinton�s husband, former President Bill Clinton. �Bill�s supporters monitored frequencies used by cell phones, and the tape was made during one of those monitoring sessions.�

Spying for me, but not for thee?

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

{{{By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:03 PM

…so I guess we�re even, eh? }}}

You are a fool and said something perfectly idiotic, so if you say “we’re even” I’m going to take that as an admission that I won that argument.

Unlike you I won’t use violent imagery and how I slapped you down.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Were the conversations recorded illegally, Muffin? Or was there a warrant? And who recorded them?

Paul — BillO is probably the biggest scumbucket on TV. That’s all I have to say on the topic, your “cares about abused kids” bloviations notwithstanding. On some issues we may disagree with each other. On this one you’re plainly wrong.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

Great BD has flipped flopped on spying.

Gop after w and the telecom companies right BD?

By Bosch

October 16, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

[As I roll my eyes] Whatever.

“Because I disagree with you means tnat I don�t care about others?”

Did I say that? No. You sound sort of paranoid.

Buy Danish,

That’s not a bad idea.

By Doom

October 16, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

SOmebody nicked Doom’s jack. Or is it more properly said, “somebody jacked doom’s nick?”

I have a feeling it doent matter none now does it.

@@ swings at everything. I love it. I had the nick DOOM long before the idiot claiming to be doom. How many times, @@, do I have to prove who the lord of this blog is?

I’ve always been doom or boom or womb, or tomb or some variation of Kaboom. It’s like a fetish or something, man, but go back in the archives and about two year ago, you’ll see someone named doom, signing off with ‘muff said.

Need I say more? I mean, that’s proof.

Doom (this is one of my favorite nicks, one of my favorite’s)

alles muffin’d sprachen zee

By @@

October 16, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Bill O’Reilly’s attempts to open a discussion on race relations ended up having some calling O’Reilly a bigot and Juan Williams “the happy negro”.

Go figure!

“Shut your trap Bill…you to Juan!!!”

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Muffin — wake up, darling. We’re not having an “argument”, any more than me and the occasional cockroach in my kitchen have an “argument”. I sprayed some Raid on you. You scuttled off. If you want to consider that “victory”, enjoy!

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

How stupid do the Democrats think you are America?

Bethany Wilkerson was also covered under the existing SCHIP program so she would still be covered under the Bush plan to expand the program and she would also still be covered by a simple extension of the existing program.

We won’t have an honest example from the Democrats until they trot out someone in need that would be covered by their expansion and not by President Bush’s expansion.

Man I’m starving, if I tell Bosch which way to turn the valve to shut off the water can I fix a sandwich?

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Yes, BO on Leno was pathetic.

He was suking up and is nothing without his bully pulpit.

Why did Michelle quit the factor Paul?

Was it Geraldo?

By Paul

October 16, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

getalife

[[The media deserved it.]]

Just when you think nothing else will surprise you….

BTW - nice job with the suit.

rushncap

Plainly wrong? Kind of the same as liking one style of house is plainly wrong? He gives me a headache sometimes - I change the channel (or more likely fast forward, I can review the show in 20 minutes). But overall he hits both sides of the political spectrum. Abused kids? He’s been the driving force behind revisions in sentencing laws in many states. BTW - I do disagree with his minimums and his take on the effectiveness of rehabilitation.

I like it - you slam him but use one of his favorite words (bloviate) to do so. Funny!

By @@

October 16, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

PoliFore:

WTH are you rumbling about? I haven’t even addressed you today, but maybe you want me to…

How’s it swingin’ bud?

Is it any wonder rushncap and Midori like each other? They’re both fans of the cartoon character Scooby Doo.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

I bet BO started calling Michelle and stalked her.

Once a perv, always a perv.

Sickos.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

getalife 6:21

I haven’t a clue why Ms Malkin quit the Factor. Frankly, that was the part where I fast forwarded. When she hosted (hostessed?) :-) I generally skipped the whole show.

Geraldo gives me headaches, too, but he’s a pretty interesting character.

You may not have cared for BOR on Leno, but you gotta admit, Christina Applegate was pretty darn good! Gives me an idea…. Did Sen Biden ever remarry?

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Tsk Tsk, such sour notes from you. I am constantly perplexed at the notion that because you are a liberal you think are a “nice” guy.

Hope springs eternal, and maybe a day will come when you manage to say something to somebody that doesn’t instantly reveal your bilious core.

I also hope you will learn not to mix your metaphors someday.

By Midori

October 16, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

How stupid do the Democrats think you are America?

Two words: George Bush.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I’m sure you probably already know this, but trying to discuss the true spectrum of a radio or TV personalty’s overall value or worth isn’t possible when one party watches or listens and the other party only gets Media Matters snippets.

By Midori

October 16, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Is it any wonder rushncap and Midori like each other?

well, for one thing, Rushncap has intelligence, class, common sense — all things of which you are sorely lacking.

How could one not like him?

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I read the blogs for news, the media is biased.

I do alot locally but do not brag about it like @@.

By @@

October 16, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Someone linked to HotAir and I snooped around a bit. Michelle said she quit because Geraldo said he “spit” on her or “would spit on her” something like that. Once a lib, always a lib. Geraldo hasn’t changed.

Buy Danish:

rushncap has to find a woman to abuse. However, to his credit he’s done very well with the assignment I gave him. He’d rather call it meeting a challenge….whatever. Works for me!!!!

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

This is from Media Matters asinine critique of Rush/Malkin/O’Reilly/Coulter.

Over the years I’ve found that there’s a direct link between the degree to which right-wing bloggers become unhinged and how lost the issue at hand is. That’s one reason the war in Iraq has collectively driven them to distraction.

Bwahahahahahaha.

Talk about projection.

We’re winning the war and everyone is starting to realize that, you have tried every way to get us to cut and run and failed, MoveOn.org puts out ads smearing “General Betray Us”, 41 Senators try to get Clear Channel to muzzle Rush, your expansion of the SCHIP program is going to be vetoed and the chances are you will not be able to override that veto, and you say we’re unhinged?

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

Paul — this is not about disagreeing about styles of houses. This is well beyond that, a rational person cannot disagree on whether or not BOR is a POS. As a human being, he is scum. Now whether or not he sometimes accidentally stumbles upon something good is not an issue. You would not argue that Charlie Manson is a good person because he possibly once paid a parking ticket. BOR is dirt, and he either thinks or at least proclaims to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. No rational person can disagree here.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I sort of agree with your 6:33. Every time George Bush sucks up to Democrats bad things are just around the corner.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

@@,

Poor rushncap can’t make up his mind if he’s a kennel master or an exterminator.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

rushncap

The link Buy Danish provided stated intercepting wireless communications was illegal when Hillary’s campaign did it (source: ACLU). Whether or not she directed it, I can’t imagine her not putting two and two together when her aides said “listen to this.” She’s a smart person. Wasn’t she the person who began the operation to identify any other women who might be an embarrassment?

I’d say listening to the recording could be forgiven. But directing an operation that included illegal intercepts…

Let’s see… illegal recordings of private communications… would go to war without UN or Congressional authorization… wants to remain in Iraq for a lonnnnng time…

Obama had it right. Hillary’s “Bush Lite.”

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I guarantee you that rushncap has rarely, if ever, watched O’Reilly, just as he admitted that he never listened to Rush but somehow was able to opine that he was an “idiot” and would rather slit his throat than have to listen to him.

This is not a rational person we’re dealing with, despite his delusional claims to the contrary.

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

@@,

I will not go there with “spitting” on her, but it is probably BO calling her to “spit” on her in his sick, perverted mind.

He is a perv, ya know.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Muffin — I’m under no compulsion to be nice to those who don’t deserve it. You don’t deserve it, so I don’t pretend to be “nice” to you. But I’m always honest. You are neither.

@@ — you gotta learn one day to stop hiding behind your v@gina. You and Muffin are despicable regardless of your gender. You’re just used to getting a pass because you pee sitting down. I don’t care, and my opinion of you as a person would not change if you underwent a sex change operation tomorrow. If you want your thoughts and actions to not matter because you’re female, that’s your prerogative. If you want that, shut up, go back to the kitchen and spare us all. If you want to be taken on your merits as a person, then quit whining about how can mean ol’ rushncap abuse poor defenseless delicate flower that is you every time you say something sickening and I call you on it. Your “damsel in distress” card does not fly here.

By @@

October 16, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Midori:

Intelligent, classy, common sense AND HE WATCHES CARTOONS.

The ultimate clincher for you. The two of you can LOL LYAO and LYFAO.

I’m happy for you. Really!

By @@

October 16, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Midori:

Intelligent, classy, common sense AND HE WATCHES CARTOONS.

The ultimate clincher for you. The two of you can LOL LYAO and LYFAO.

I’m happy for you. Really!

By getalife

October 16, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

She has a brain and can speak English.

Not not even close to w but Obama needs to come out swinging.

He is way behind and how about Rudy protecting us from space aliens?

Lost it, or “Bush Lite”?

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Paul and all concerned,

Let’s not forget that the Dems tried to have Linda Tripp thrown in jail because she taped her phone conversations with Monica Lewinsky, a woman who was trying to get Tripp to suborn perjury.

Tripp did not try to blackmail Lewinsky or Billy Jeff. She made them for one reason and one reason only - to protect herself from the Clinton machine.

Hypocrisy does not even begin to describe what’s going on here. It’s more like institutional thuggery, but according to the radical Left, if that’s what you need to do to win, you are justified in doing it.

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Paul — well, nice. Add more reasons for why I am not planning to vote for Hillary in the primaries. Frankly I don’t need any more convincing. Obviously if she’s the Democratic nominee I’ll have no choice but to vote for her, but I hope Obama or Edwards can pull out an upset.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 6:34

I have tickets for “Man of LaMancha” this season. It got me to thinking about tilting at windmills.

rushncap 6:42

I plain don’t understand the basis for your assessment.

By bill

October 16, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

You should have a cartoon of Gore winning the Nobel prize…..for inventing the internet !!!

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

I’ve watched a lot of O’Reilly, Muff. Just in small chunks. I like my TV too much to watch it for any length of time, however. The desire to hurl something heavy at that smug turd’s face becomes too much to bear, and I have to change it. Plus my roomie might hurt me if I keep it on that too long. He has fewer masochistic tendencies than me, thus lesser tolerance.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Paul,

There’s been a Hillary update. She spoke to an anti-war group yesterday and she’s back to ending the war and getting out on day 1 of her Presidency.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

getalife

You know I was having fun with the Hillary Lite thing. I think Hillary may be a bit tougher than many imagine. It’s the fact she won’t reveal more that has me concerned. I agree about Obama - he’s started to get tough, then back away. It seems he’s ceding to Hillary.

Buy Danish

I’d forgotten about that. I do hope the discussion stays on the specifics - and relevance - 1992 was a couple of years ago, after all. The question for Dems is, will she really do the same again?

rushncap - about the only upset would be Gore. Check out the Dick Morris link earlier - not enough time for me to find it -

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 6:50 PM

I don’t care that you are not nice to me. That just gives me an opportunity to laugh at you.

I was speaking metaphorically about the false sense that nasty little squirts like you have that because you’re a liberal you’re better and nicer than everybody else.

By Paul

October 16, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this

RW

Key words: “she was speaking to an antiwar group” and “today.”

Tomorrow she’ll say… who knows?

By rushncap

October 16, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

Paul — I don’t have the time nor the emotional fortitude to go after BOR. I would like to think you just like being a contrarian, and usually I’d oblige you, but in this case I won’t. I’m pretty sure you’re intelligent enough and reasonable enough to know what I’m talking about.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Do you remember just a few months ago when rushncap told us that men and women everywhere were saying they would do anything and he reiterated that he meant ANYTHING for Obama?

Now he’s reduced to hoping for an Obama or Edwards upset in just the primaries. What happened, rushncap? Aren’t “scientists” supposed to be a little more pragmatic?

By Doom

October 16, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

Ellen Degeneres broke down on her show today when she admitted giving her dog away to a home which was sponsoring dogfights. To atone, she’s left her entire 300 million dollar estate to her poodle “snotz”. She needs a vacation badly.

Bush is going to address the nation on television tonite. Bush is going to ask for a show of hands about whether we should pull out of Iraq or not.

By Buy Danish

October 16, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

Paul,

What difference does it make that it was in 1992? It’s the same people who are trying to get back in the White House.

How more “relevant” does it get?

By getalife

October 16, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Obama may want to be the VP with cheney power.

Looks like the dems are backing off the genocide resolution leaving w pis-sing off China.

By Goldie

October 16, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

Let’s not forget about the level of Bill Orally’s “empathy” for abused kids:

Bill O’Reilly claimed tonight, 1/16/07, that he doesn’t believe in the Stockholm Syndrome, a theory that kidnap victims form attachments and loyalty to their captors after long periods of captivity. According to O’Reilly the theory is too “glib”and he thinks Shawn Hornbeck stayed four years with his sexually abusive, violent kidnapper for other reasons. Debra Mandel, psychologist and author of Healing The Sensitive Heart was the expert assigned to discuss the issue but BOR wasn’t too interested in what she had to say coming up with some hair curling theories of his own.

By AmVet

October 16, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this

I watched the Donnie Deutsch interview with Ann Coulter and let me just say if anyone thinks she is helping the case of Christians in this country, good for them.

She is the pin up girl of “compassionate conservatism” to those who idolize her I suppose, but I would imagine most mainstream Americans do not find her claim that “America would be better off if everybody was a Christian” funny in the slightest, in spite of her constant nervous laughter.

Her apologists here may dismiss this as a “gaffe”, but she has made the point numerous times that the whole world should be Christianized.

And this is not about proselytizing or coming from a position of warmth and caring. This is her way of trying to prove all non-Christians wrong and inferior and shoving her religion down their throats.

No wonder people are turning away from Christianity in this country in droves.

Keep up the good work, Ms. Coulter.

By RW-(the original)

October 16, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this

{{{{{No wonder people are turning away from Christianity in this country in droves.}}}}}

Source please?

Wasn’t it thirty or forty years ago when Time or some such rag pronounced God dead in this country and said people were turning away in droves? This is some really, really slow turning away.

By @@

October 16, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

(((Your �damsel in distress� card does not fly here.)))

I’ll borrow from Buy Danish’s 7:03…

(((I don�t care that you are not nice to me. That just gives me an opportunity to laugh at you.)))

especially when you say things like you did at 6:58…

(((my roommate, he has fewer masochistic tendencies than me)))

I recall the time that Midori came in telling rushncap to “kick my a*” for her and he responded “he could…with one hand tied behind his back.”

It’s a hilarious visual image complete with leather, masks, chains and whips.

rushncap and Midori are weird!!!!

No doubt about it.

By Doom

October 16, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

Ellen Degeneres broke down on her show today when she admitted giving her dog away to a home which was sponsoring dogfights. To atone, she’s left her entire 300 million dollar estate to her poodle “snotz”. She needs a vacation badly.

Bush is going to address the nation on television tonite. Bush is going to ask for a show of hands about whether we should pull out of Iraq or not.

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