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By Mike Luckovich | Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:38 PM

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By Luckoduh

October 8, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

{{{{The senator from Illinois asked the multiracial crowd of nearly 4,000 people to keep him and his family in their prayers, and said he hoped to be “an instrument of God.”}}}}

Oh my Lord.

I wonder how many pinkos greeted this news by rolling their eyes and gasping in disgust?

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{{{{“Why should I support your candidacy if you haven’t learned from the past?” Rolph asked, referring to her 2002 vote to authorize the use of military force in Iraq.}}}}

{{{{Clinton first thanked him and then countered that, “the premise of the question is wrong.” So far, so good. But after offering a description of what was in the resolution, Clinton smugly and dismissively accused him of having been fed the information, saying “obviously somebody sent [it] to you.”}}}}

{{{{Rolph didn’t let it pass. “I take exception, this is my own research…”}}}}

{{{{“Well, then let me finish telling you…” Clinton screamed.}}}}

{{{{“Nobody sent that, and I am offended that you would suggest it,” Rolph snapped at her.}}}}

Never mind that this “woman” can’t keep “her” inner monster under wraps, what does it say that instead of answering a question, “she” attacks the intelligence of the person asking the question?

SHrillary has nothing but contempt for you common liberals, same as the AJC, they view you as moron slobbering goonies that will devour any lie that they can manufacture.

You are too stupid to question the exalted Kueen Klintoon, so sit down and shut up.

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{{{{Others on the Democrat side are pushing ahead with other plans. Rep. Henry Waxman has asked his investigative staff to begin compiling reports on Limbaugh, and fellow radio hosts Sean Hannity and Mark Levin based on transcripts from their shows, and to call in Federal Communications Commission chairman Kevin Martin to discuss the so-called “Fairness Doctrine.” “Limbaugh isn’t the only one who needs to be made uncomfortable about what he says on the radio,” says a House leadership source.}}}}

We allow democrats to be elected and take the majority, these are the things that we can expect to happen.

The same people that shriek about the Constitutional Rights of Al Qaeda terrorists, are scheming an assault on the free speech righ

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

Good Morning.

Friday evening at 5:19, @@ shook to its foundations, one of the basic tenets of my life.

That tenet being: There is no such thing as a stupid question.

Late in the days discussion of torture, @@ at 3:58 chimes in channeling White House mouth piece Dana Perino.

Every man she ever swam with held her head underwater. Her family slapped her upside the head. AND she gets cold in the winter. See? No big deal.

Well, in my young life, I never went on a waterboarding date. When my siblings slapped each other upside the head, our father’s very large hands quickly put an end to that. AND we wore coats.

When confronted with the photos from Abu Ghraib, did she see the carnage? Did she see what shocked and horrified the whole civilized world? No, she saw naked men.

Hence, the stupid question. “””You still didn’t answer my question. Do you willingly contribute to the public degradation of Muslims? It sure as hell looks like you do. So why give me a hard time? I didn’t put them on display.”””.

Here’s your answer @@.

Yes, I willingly created links to photographs that are degrading to Muslims. They are also degrading to the perpetrators and the nation that pays them. Let me explain why.

(This would be a good time to note that private contractors from Titan and CACI were involved in that mess)

In order to prove something has happened, a little thing called evidence is required. Ipso Facto the Abu Ghraib photos.

Let me draw an analogy that might help you understand. In the course of a rape trial, the victim must live through the humiliation and degradation of testifying to the circumstances. Over and over. In order to stop ugly things from happening, people must stand up and speak the hard truth.

There is a second part to that tenet – There is no such thing as a stupid question, just….

Never mind I don’t want to be accused of starting the name calling today.

By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)

October 8, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

The Al-Jazeera Constipulation’s KGB Pinko threesome of Jihad Cindy Tucker, Poppin’ Jay Boogerman and Mick Luckopuck is in exceptionally rare form today with a worse than usual pack of communist LIES and DISTORTION Today’s cartoon is a low blow, even for an intensely dedicated ideological leftist fanatic like you, Mike. Everyone knows that Bush vetoed that moronic SCHIP bill because it was an obvious attempt by Hitlery, Osama and the Democraps to move towards a Communist welfare state by buying votes with a guaranteed socialist entitlements. Marxist Defeatocraps are hellbent on making a selfish power grab by pushing this country off a cliff towards Soviet-style government and a crushing defeat in the War on Terror.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 8, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Psssst……Little girl

How’d you’d like some eggs and toilet paper?

By Shawny

October 8, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

“But, it’s for the children…”. If you want something to pass, put in this tagline. Doesn’t matter if it is a good idea or not….kind of like SPLOST. Vote against it, vote against ‘the children’. How could anyone do that?

By Luckoduh

October 8, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

{{{{Hillary Clinton Reigns as Queen of Federal Pork: Clinton, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, placed $2.2 billion worth of earmarks in spending bills from 2002-2006. One would have to concede that she is good at it. In the fiscal 2008 defense-spending bill alone, Clinton successfully attached 26 earmarks worth $148 million, which was the most of any Democrat except Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, who is now chairman of the Armed Services Committee.}}}}

Not to mention the fact that she also wants to tag the federal deficit with a 75 Billion Dollar a year “health care plan.”

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 309

By @@

October 8, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

The Democrats are mad because Bush “snatched” their candy? Some kids are just too old to go trick or treating and I would argue that 25 is too old.

(((Bush faulted the congressional bill for pulling millions of children currently covered by private insurance groups into the government healthcare program.)))

(((Bush also said the plan would allow children from families earning as much as $83,000 to benefit from the SCHIP program.)))

(((The president said the insurance program should remain focused on children from poor families as it was initially intended to do and not on adults or children from wealthier families.)))

(((“When it comes to SCHIP, we should be guided by a clear principle: Put poor children first,” Bush said. “I urge Republicans and Democrats in Congress to support a bill that moves adults off this children’s program — and covers children who do not qualify for Medicaid, but whose families are struggling.”)))

Ignoring the fact that this expansion actually hurts the poor, the Democrats will have “their puppets” dancing to “The Good SCHIP Lollipop.”

By Frank Malzone

October 8, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

A good cartoon idea would be to show Falcon coach Petrino explaining why he does things, or explaining the Iraq strategy etc.

Did anyone get a load of this guy at the postgame? I cant believe my ears.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Bush’s $83,000 Lie About SCHIP

By Luckoduh

October 8, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{Al Qaeda had hoped that the U.S. Congress would hand it a victory in Iraq by forcing the Bush administration to withdraw American forces before the Iraqis were ready to defend themselves. But that hope vanished last month when it became clear that the United States will retain its military presence in Iraq for at least another year.}}}}

{{{{Al Qaeda took another hit last week when Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al-Sheikh, Saudi Arabia’s grand mufti and the most prestigious cleric in the kingdom, issued a fatwa against “traveling abroad for the purpose of jihad.” Hours after the fatwa was issued, Iraq’s Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki hailed it as a “major step toward defeating al Qaeda in Iraq.”}}}}

Pretty soon, there won’t be anybody left to surrender to, hahahaha.

Kowards.

By Rick

October 8, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Instead of merely “Yes” and “No” answers… why doesn’t the AJC allow us to rate the cartoon with answers ranging from “Love it” to “Loathe it,” “Abhor it” and “Take Mike’s crayon set away from him?”

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

[The United States could withdraw more than 100,000 troops out of Iraq by the end of 2008 but should retain three permanent bases, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said Sunday.](http://rawstory.com/news/afp/IraqipresidenteyeshugeUStroop_10072007.html]

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Book: Couric felt pressured by NBC to support war

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Dan Rather: CBS caved to government pressure

By jacksonwolff

October 8, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

“By Shawny

October 8, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

“But, it’s for the children…”. If you want something to pass, put in this tagline. Doesn’t matter if it is a good idea or not….kind of like SPLOST. Vote against it, vote against ‘the children’. How could anyone do that?”

Kinda hypocritical, don’t you think? Conservatives have used the whole “what will we tell the children” argument when it came to gay marrige, and gay adoption.

people who live in glass houses…..

By DebbieDoRight

October 8, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Found this on AJC this a.m. — I kinda thought it was funny; however one of my friends is HIGHLY “pi$$ed” at the “Clintons taking over of America!!!” (She said it in ALL CAPS). Although I like this woman and value her opinion, (most times), I wonder why she isn’t as pi$$ed at Dumbya’s and Company’s Cliff Notes politics and soundbite War action plans?

[Crowd Advised To Fear Clintons}(http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/10/06/christian_1007.html?imw=Y)

By Shawny

October 8, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

hypocritical…no. I am talking about how to position (market) something you want to pass that costs money. Not at all related to those you mentioned.

How about this one?.

At least Kerry had the sense to dump Sandy ‘sock stuffer’ when he plead guilty. Hillary is just now working with him. What is she thinking? Surely this will be fodder for later on.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

October 8, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Speaking of “sock stuffers,” anyone want to congratulate me on my induction into the Ida-ho Hall of Shame?

Hey Andy, what are you wearing?

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

October 8, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Whoops, sorry about the typo- I meant Hall of Fame.

Go down the Hall, 3 doors on the right. My display has a “Mens Room” sign on it.

They have a bust of me on display. Come on down.

By Bosch

October 8, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Good morning! Great cartoon! Hilarious Mrs. G!

Don’t worry, those children’s parents are voters.

If we got to choose what we use our taxes for, I’d gladly pay to help out the poor and middle class families pay for health insurance - rather than spending all our resources on a useless war.

I just paid my monthly bills - my electricity and gas are $100/month more now than they were this time last year. I went to the grocery store last night and spent $125 on roughly a couple days worth of food. Everything is more expensive, but my salary didn’t change from last year - the difference between the middle and lower class is getting much more narrow.

Shawny, How about this: everytime the Republicans want to pass something, they usually market it as “necessary for national security” again, like you said, whether it is a good idea or not.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Mitt Romney has hired Blackwater’s vice-chairman as one of his policy advisors.

Major Romney Fundraiser Indicted for Fraud

Romney’s Aide Impersonates State Trooper

Giuliani’s Top Fundraiser Was Sole Backer of Right-Wing Power Grab in California

Former Giuliani Aide Jailed For Treason Is Released

Giuliani Hires Media Team Behind “Call Me” Ads

Giuliani Top Aide Tony Carbonetti, Gambling and Firing

So many headlines, so little time.

By Bosch

October 8, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

DDR, Who was it the other day, I think it was Duh, but could be wrong, who posted the same thing, that we must fear Hillary.

The fear machine is rearing up again! FEAR FEAR FEAR!!!!!! WE ALL MUST BE SCARED!!!!!!

Pathetic.

The sad thing is that evangelicals and fundamental Christians are very easily persuaded and scared. They’ll believe anything they are told - like sheep. They are the main group of people, in my opinion, who want to be told how and what to think. They are either unwilling or incapable of thinking for themselves.

Westmoreland is an idiot - what district is he from?

By @@

October 8, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

ITN @ 8:06:

(((When confronted with the photos from Abu Ghraib, did she see the carnage? Did she see what shocked and horrified the whole civilized world? No, she saw naked men.)))

Carnage…CARNAGE???? Are you kidding? There was one image of a blood trail left on the floor. The caption read that the prisoner had somehow gotten his hands on a weapon. Tell ‘ya what ITN…put forth the same effort to post images of victims tortured by al Qaeda and the insurgents. We’ll do a side-by-side comparison.

In your links I saw images of suspected terrorists being subjected to “discomfort”, not torture.

Heck, the terrorists aren’t even looking for information when they put the electric drills to the bodies of their own people. They’re sending a message and a threat to freedom.

How often on our national news have you seen arrested suspects hooded and handcuffed. The hoods are usually requested by the perps. The handcuffs are for security reasons.

Is that torture? Are you disappointed because they aren’t nekkid?

Good luck in finding your “perfect world”.

By DebbieDoRight

October 8, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Ooops let’s try the link again!

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/10/06/christian_1007.html?imw=Y

Bosch: What’s amazing about this whole article to me is that it’s SO DANG STOOOPID!!!

Fear the Clintons — they want to shrink the deficit, make the American Dollar strong again, pay off our debts, build a better healthcare system, bring back a strong middle class AND clean up the mess in Iraq. Oh yeah, that REAL scary!!

Fear The Clintons!!! BOOOO!!! Just in time for halloween!!

By Peter

October 8, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

If it weren’t based on real life consequences it would be hilarious. (I particularly like the change of perspective across the three panels; to shift from the little girl to the closed door. Nice touch.)

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

@@

When your child uses the “they did it why can’t I” defense do you accept that?

I didn’t accept it from my children, I do not accept it from you.

I was taught to be better than that.

Sad that you don’t believe in striving for perfection.

Sad that you accept the least people, yourself included, can be.

Good luck in the sad world you inhabit.

Yes, suspects sometimes ask for hoods. I have yet to see a case where they have asked to have battery cables applied to their person. I teach my children to be better than that.

By Bosch

October 8, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

DDR, These idiots don’t actually look at what a person’s issues are, they just tell them to be scared of them — it’s much simpler that way. It’s easier for people to scream “YOU MUST BE AFRAID!!” than to actually look at what a candidate wants to do.

Fundamentalist Christians are usually too ignorant about most things to analyze a situation - again, they are unwilling or incapable of independent thought.

By @@

October 8, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

ITN @ 10:37:

(((When your child uses the “they did it why can’t I” defense do you accept that?)))

When it’s a verbal attack I encourage strength and self-confidence to sluff it off. That’s an excellent defense mechanism.

When the threat is physical I advocate physical self-defense measures.

Actually my daughter just finished a self-defense class offered through law enforcement. Seems there’s a serial rapist on the loose.

So the guy goes blind because she poked his eyes out. So the guy’s nose bleeds because she broke it. So the guy dies because she rammed his septum into his brain.

He asked for it and my daughter walks away with her life and her dignity. She has far more to contribute to society than the low-life who offers nothing but pain and suffering.

Would you want your child to lay down and pretend they enjoyed it?

You’re the one who brought up the rape analogy.

By rushncap

October 8, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

ITN — good luck with @@. She’s a very sad, disturbed old lady. I doubt there is much that can be changed about that. Let’s just pity her children.

By Radford Bunker

October 8, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

So, Georgia and other states want a lot of money (34 BILLION dollars) to pay for state run childrens healthcare programs..but gee, don’t want to raise the taxes themselves. Now big bad W. won’t just give them the money.

GROW UP people, if you want to spend the money YOU need to raise the money.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

So @@ the answer to my question:

When your child uses the “they did it why can’t I” defense do you accept that?

Is no.

No need to worry about my kids, they have been taught to handle confrontational situations (both dangerous and not) from a position of integrity and strength.

We know you don’t feel that the treatment of detainees amounts to torture. It’s either just horseplay, as you suggested last week, or justified due to the situation.

I disagree.

I believe it is vile and Un-American.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

McCain is correct.

Torture does not work.

@@ has lost here sense of right and wrong.

Poor thing.

Great toon Mike.

I hope the House overrides his pathetic veto.

By Axis of Evil (snicker, snort)

October 8, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush has authorized 25 million dollars in energy aid to North Korea in response to Pyongyang’s progress in complying with its denuclearization agreement.

Now the Chimperor sends the “AXIS OF EVIL” a 25 million dollar payday. NKs are playing King George nearly as well as the Arabs are playing King George. Roll over George, sit up George, Bark George, write a check George, write another check George, send more aid George.

Woof, woof!!!

By Bill

October 8, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Christian Patriot Duh & Zell have been waiting all weekend to be the first to post. What a great life! Duh laughs like a drooling imbecile. Come to think of it, he IS a drooling imbecile. Sad people, those.

By @@

October 8, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

(((We know you don’t feel that the treatment of detainees amounts to torture.)))

Obviously you don’t want to bother searching for images of victims tortured by al-Qaeda and the insurgents. What’s the matter… drillholes, severed heads and limbs too much to bear?

You may have to view a torturous life from a different perspective. Go live life under Sharia law and then report back to me in degrees.

I challenge you to bring us THOSE images ITN, otherwise your outrage is biased and notably UN-AMERICAN.

By ben anderson

October 8, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

re: torture bit i found this one required a double take to pick up !!!i assume that the stature of ” blind justice” beside the podium has been effectively silenced and totally hidden by drapings of the american flag !!! am i correct ??? if so i totally agree !!! five stars !!! bsa

By mm

October 8, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Wow, you wingnuts are unbelievable. I thought you just parroted the Republican party.

But on this SCHIP issue, you don’t even side with the Republicans. You just blindly side with Bush on this issue. Actually you blindly support Bush like the lunatic followers in a religious cult.

He’s wrong and he’s lying. If you repeat what he says you are lying (now there’s a newsflash).

Pathetic losers. When the Dems take control you wingnuts are going to have these Bush policies rescinded and shoved up your shooters.

By Tony

October 8, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

For those who care to read, The Drunken Decider is increasingly getting his strategic advice and cousel from one Henry Kissinger - the author of genocide in Cambodia, wholesale slaughter in Chile, abandonment of American POWs in Laos, ultimate quick betrayal of US workers in South Vietnam, and recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Republican progress marches on.

By Anonymous

October 8, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

@@ fails to understand (as do many dittoheads and similar Bushdrones) that the actions of our enemies are IRRELEVANT when it comes to deciding what actions of our own are acceptable.

Criticize the actions of terrorists? Sure, that’s easy… and it’s also a distraction, and @@ knows it. It’s an attempt to take attention away to the crimes being committed by OUR people, in OUR name—a country that’s supposed to be better than that.

Saying, “Hey, Hitler did much worse things” is no excuse. In fact, it’s moral relativism—something the right claims to loathe and regularly blames liberals for.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

No @@, my outrage is neither biased nor UN-American. And you fall sadly short of an effective sound bite with your post.

Torture is vile and outrageous no matter who does it.

LET ME REPEAT FOR YOU

Torture is vile and outrageous no matter who does it.

(I don’t need to see the pictures to know that others do it)

Your straw man challenge is no more than a dropped wet-noodle guantlet and I reject it.

I will openly admit that I am opposed to torture.

I challenge you to admit you support it.

Oh, wait you can’t.

You believe Mr. Bush.

That we do not torture.

So if we don’t do it, you don’t have to admit you support it.

Republogic.

I go a step further.

Torture is Un-American and contrary to the teachings of Christ.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Brilliant Anonymous. Thanks.

You put it much more succinctly than I could have. (especially when the subject makes me so angry)

By rushncap

October 8, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

No no, I understand @@ perfectly. See, since the Nazis gassed 6 million Jews during the Holocaust, it would’ve been perfectly OK for Americans to round up several million German civilians in 1945 and Zyklon all of them. It makes all the sense in the world.

Why can’t you boneheads see it??

I really do pity @@’s daughter. On the upside, some shrink is gonna make a killing on her (no pun intended).

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Terrific Rushncap.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

This is why @@ went off topic on torture:

“United States appears to be illegally torturing terror suspects, contrary to denials by Bush:

The administration appears to be illegally torturing terror suspects contrary to denials by President George W. Bush, House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Sunday.”

Anyhoo, The War on PBS is a great documentary about our greatest generation.

Makes you proud of them but when you compare WWII to the Iraq occupation, the me generation does nothing but go shopping.

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

War News for Monday, October 08, 2007 Baghdad:

1: A car bomb exploded near the Polish embassy in Baghdad on Monday, killing one person. The bomb blast about 100 metres (yards) from the embassy in Baghdad’s inner Al-Arasat district killed a passerby

Acting ambassador Waldemar Figaj told Reuters that four explosions hit near the embassy on Monday and described the first blast as “very, very powerful”. Windows at the embassy were blown open, but not damaged, by the shockwave from the blast, he said. “I don’t believe we were targeted. We just felt the impact,” Figaj said. Iraqi police said a car bomb near the embassy killed two people and wounded five. “There were four explosions at different distances (from the embassy),” Figaj said, adding that at least one of the blasts was about 200 metres away. “It happened in the morning and early afternoon.”

2: A roadside bomb went off in a busy square in northern Baghdad on Monday, wounding four civilians, an Interior Ministry source said. The blast took place before noon near minibuses carrying passengers near the Salahudin Square in the Kadhimiyah neighborhood,the source told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.

The rest of Baghdad and other provinces here

By @@

October 8, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

(((By Anonymous October 8, 2007 11:43 AM)))

(((@@ fails to understand (as do many dittoheads and similar Bushdrones) that the actions of our enemies are IRRELEVANT when it comes to deciding what actions of our own are acceptable.)))

I would argue that, for purely political reasons, liberals conveniently ignore the differences between “cohersive tactics” and “blatant torture” that ends in death without justification…the “diversity” in techniques if you will.

I am also not impressed by “the liberal dittoheads” who enter here attempting to further their previous arguments under another name as did Anonymous.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

If a liberal ditto head speaks the truth and @@ doesn’t like it can it still be true?

By @@

October 8, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

(((By getalife October 8, 2007 12:13 PM)))

(((This is why @@ went off topic on torture:)))

Read ITN @ 8:06 “Crabcake”.

My first post on the topic of ml’s cartoon was at 8:56.

Get it right….Getalife.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

geezcake,

I do not read all your drivel.

Makes my head spin.

Sad to read an American loving torture.

Geez.

By Dusty

October 8, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Well, what do ya know? All you anti-war flag wavers who probably want to lose the war are now jumping on @@ because she is strong!!

@@ probably does more for children in one day at school than you losers have ever done. She can think without being told (unlike liberals who can only quote the “party” line). She also has a faith that can take all the “knocks” you silly semi-atheists can manufacture at any time. Her love of family is evident.

Enjoy your anti-Americanism and your insults, silly socialists. You are disgraceful Americans that terrorists appreciate. Sneer, patronize, retreat, lie and leer. You liberals are well recognized as America’s weakness.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

{{{{ You liberals are well recognized as America’s weakness.}}}}

Explains that whole 70/30 thing don’t it.

By Luckoduh

October 8, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Senator Craig (“REPUBLICAN”) October 8, 2007 10:02 AM Speaking of “sock stuffers,” anyone want to congratulate me on my induction into the Ida-ho Hall of Shame?}}}}

Yes, aren’t those homosexual people just so gross and icky?

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{{{{By getalife October 8, 2007 12:13 PM Anyhoo, The War on PBS is a great documentary about our greatest generation.}}}}

al-Gitmo: Did you catch the way that Burns cleverly followed his presentation of the Bataan Death March with the story of the Japanese interment legislation enacted by Roosevelt?

At Bataan, the Japs forced marched 70000 soldiers to Luzon, 7 days on foot, bayoneting them, cutting their throats, running them over with vehicles, not allowing them to drink water or eat food, and then finally dumping them in a hovel of a camp, with no Government Health Care and one “meal” a day that consisted of a rice gruel full of worms that the prisoners preferred to eat after dark so they couldn’t see it. Roughly 35,000 out of 70,000 survived.

This was immediately followed by the Japanese Interment where the Japs living in America had to live in a camp with their whole family, getting three square meals a day for free. They all survived.

Now harken back to your oblivious days in the left wing infested public education system and you tell me, which one did they present to you as the greatest horror?

Perverts.

By RE

October 8, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I for one am a full-on no doubt athiest.

I am not sure what it is about being publicly outspoken about the strength of your own chrisitan faith that leads you to justify the torture of another person, a person who in most cases cannot be determined that they are a threat.

I am an athiest, and I believe torture is morally wrong.

You are a christian and believe torture is morally acceptable.

Please explain why christianity holds a higher moral ground than the lack of religion.

By Dusty

October 8, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 12:52

Oh yes, quote a poll you pulled off the internet. Doesn’t matter. You liberals are still recognized as America’s weakness. You can’t shake that one off. Terrorists love your support.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Yesterday, dusty wrote she was going to be in a discussion group about the Farm bill.

Yes, a discussion group about the Farm bill.

Can you imagine her biased input in this group?

dusty, what the hell do you know about farming?

Give us your input on subsidies.

By @@

October 8, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

(((If a liberal ditto head speaks the truth and @@ doesn’t like it can it still be true?)))

It can be true in a liberal’s brain.

Funny how liberals are always promoting support for diversity/differences but don’t want to acknowledge it when it comes to degrees in torture.

It boggles a logical mind.

Here’s another scenario for you to consider ITN.

A perpetrator kidnaps you and your child. You don’t offer a defensive tactic initially in hopes of keeping your child safe. The perpetrator takes your child and proceeds to inflict pain and suffering on your child in your presence. What measures would you take to protect your child, if any at all?

Would it not be wiser and in the best interest of your child’s safety to take measures to avoid the attack before it happens? and…

Can you explain to me why the ACLU, champions of the oppressed, consistently argue that convicted child molesters should be able to live anywhere they want without parents in the neighborhood being notified?

Is the ACLU protecting the terrorists or the victims?

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

We liberals are seen as America’s weakness to the Neo Conservatives.

Of course, we liberals see you and the Neo Conservatives as the dreggs of our society.

It is YOUR policies that have increased terrorist activity in the last 5 years. Your policies keep ‘em working all over the world.

Close your eyes real tight and keep wishing, but you cannot remake the reality of the world today.

If wishing really made it so…. you’d be driving an unarmored humvee, in faulty boy armor (if any), wearing an unlinered helmet, carrying an M16 that jams.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

duh,

The greatest horror was the Nazi concentration camps idiot.

Some great personal stories in that documentary and the coverage of the Battle of the Bulge, where my father was shot in the head when he jumped in a foxhole by a Nazi, showed me things he never wanted to talk about.

I saw why he did not want to talk about it. He loved Patton and loved the part where he p** in the Rhine river.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

@@

Are you attemping to draw a line between torture and protecting your children? Huh? What exactly is the pertinence of your question?

There was a crooked man…..

To answer your question regarding the ACLU I would have to accept how you have framed the question. I would have to accpet that your summation of the situation is entirely accurate. And I don’t.

Do I hate some of the stuff the ACLU does? Yep. I lived though the Nazi’s wanting to march in Skokie.

Free Speech may be just too tough for you.

By Bosch

October 8, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Dusty, “Oh yes, quote a poll you pulled off the internet. Doesn’t matter.”

Do you ever see your hypocrisy in action? Amazing.

Your debating skills are about as developed as my 14 year old son who never admits that he has an attitude problem or does anything wrong. I could just see the two of you “debating” something. Like you, he thinks just because he says something then it is automatically true.

Unbelieveable.

RE, Spot on…..excellent point.

By Bosch

October 8, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

@@, The ACLU protects HUMAN RIGHTS at it’s core. It protects a human being’s right to live. Their philosophy is pretty basic.

Yes, sometimes that involves child molesters and their right to live somewhere - and no - I’m not taking up for child molestors - to me they are the lowest form of human -

but they are nontheless human, and although I wouldn’t want a child molester living in my neighborhood (although you never know who is capable of what) - they are human beings and sometimes need a legal voice.

By @@

October 8, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

(((Are you attemping to draw a line between torture and protecting your children? Huh? What exactly is the pertinence of your question?)))

I’m trying to provoke you into admitting what YOU would be capable of to protect your child…making it more personal than political.

(((To answer your question regarding the ACLU I would have to accept how you have framed the question. I would have to accpet that your summation of the situation is entirely accurate. And I don’t.)))

Just like that…you don’t? Don’t you even want to research it?

How convenient!!!!

(((Do I hate some of the stuff the ACLU does? Yep.)))

You sure don’t talk about it much here. Is there some reason why you choose not avoid that topic? Is it because they support all that’s “civil” within our society. Is it because they are advocates for all the “left”overs?

By HEY ITN

October 8, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

neocons ARE liberals you dunce. Look it up.

By Dusty

October 8, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Oh, if only I could find any truth in the posts of libs!!!

With the USA having the best supplied military in the world, IN THE NEWS has dug up all the old accusations about humvees, helmet liners, body armor and M16s, the sort of things that liberals look for every day to defame our troops. He didn’t memtion the lack of support by liberals that is more detrimental to our troops than anything else. Keep the liberal “cop out” going, Newsy. We expect it.

bosch, I just smile at being compared to your fourteen year old. He’s probably a lot smarter than you and that would make him about average. Your pomposity expands without limit. Hope you don’t explode on this Columbus Day.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Oh please @@,

You never admit anything your failed party does.

Give it a rest.

By Eliza Doolittle

October 8, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Most bleedin’ child what gets molested aint nevah bin caught, they haven’t you know, most bloody chillin molestators are unrecognizable if’n they be in a line up. Ye wouldn’t know a bloomin’ child molester if’n you eye’d one eyeball to eyeball, truth mate!

On the tv it’s doctors lawyers clergy and white collar bigshots what be molestin the youth in asia, they be!

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

@@

Enough silliness from you and with you today.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Hey dusty,

Give us your views on the Farm bill.

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Dusty

You too.

By @@

October 8, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 1:23:

(((they are human beings and sometimes need a legal voice.)))

CHILD MOLESTERS ARE HUMAN? In appearance only Bosch. Their behavior would have me categorize them as “predatory animals”.

I’m not capable of killing an animal but I would not hesitate to take whatever measures necessary if I caught them molesting ANYONE’S child. If they ended up dead I’d suffer the legal consequences without whining.

By @@

October 8, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 1:23:

(((they are human beings and sometimes need a legal voice.)))

CHILD MOLESTERS ARE HUMAN? In appearance only Bosch. Their behavior would have me categorize them as “predatory animals”.

I’m not capable of killing an animal but I would not hesitate to take whatever measures necessary if I caught them molesting ANYONE’S child. If they ended up dead I’d suffer the legal consequences without whining.

By RE

October 8, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

From what I have read, most of the arguements by the ACLU dealing with sexual predator laws have to do more with the legality of adding additional punishment upon a group of offenders that was not determined in sentencing.

When a person is convicted of a crime, the judge decides upon the punishment. You can debate how strict the punishment should or should not be, even calling for lifetime parole or ban from living within x distance of a school or public park. The question goes to if the community should impose additional punishment to a convicted individual without trial or legal recourse.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

@@,

“Seriously- what does the current Republican party stand for? Permanent war, fear, the nanny state, big spending, torture, execution on demand, complete paranoia regarding the media, control over your body, denial of evolution and outright rejection of science…Hillarycare doesn’t scare me as much as Frank Gaffney having a line to the person with the nuclear football or Dobson and company crafting domestic policy.

That is why the Republican party is in shambles. The majority of us have decided that the movers and shakers in the GOP and the blogospheric right are certified lunatics who, in a decent and sane society, we would have in controlled environments in rocking chairs under shade trees for most of the day, wheeled in at night for tapioca pudding and some karaoke.”

Do tell, what does your failed party stand for and why do you support them?

By ACLU=HUMAN RIGHTS?

October 8, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Why just in the news today is a case where a male school teacher wears nothing but(t) a g-string and paints with his but(t) while filming the whole “arty” process and putting it on the internet for all to see, including his students. The ACLU is fighting the school board in court for firing this guy.

The Human Right to paint with your a$$ and film it for your school children to see I guess.

By Anonymous

October 8, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

In other words, the ACLU keeps dragging in those pesky “fact” and “logic” when there’s vengeance to be had and blood to boil. Nasty, nasty ol’ ACLU, getting in the way of righteous vengeance with all their talk of Constitutional rights….

And @@ still can’t answer this very simple point: Torture is wrong no matter who does it. Comparing it to what our enemies do is meaningless.

By @@

October 8, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

(((From what I have read, most of the arguements by the ACLU dealing with sexual predator laws have to do more with the legality of adding additional punishment upon a group of offenders that was not determined in sentencing.)))

Additional punishment in comparison to the punishment they inflict on children. That and the lifetime damage inflicted on a person’s psyche. Often times their crime is perpetuated in the victim’s child.

Priceless!

The ACLU will defend child molesters for free because somewhere in their disgusting behavior are rights that deserve dignity and respect.

There’s something wrong here people.

By getalife

October 8, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Another Toe-Tapping Republican Caught In Sting - Ends Senate Bid

My goodmess.

Geez.

By Anonymous

October 8, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

P.S. to Dusty: We already know how much you hate America and our troops, Dusty. You don’t have to keep proving it every day.

We GET it already; you’re a traitor, a coward, and a lying loser who spits on everything America stands for. Okay—on to new business!

By Dusty

October 8, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Oh dear, IN THE NEWS wants to take away my freedom of speech ‘cause he doesn’t like it.

So sorry, lil’ news copy cat. You can’t preach anti-Americanism all the time without a rebuttal.

Most Americans want to win this war and support the troops who volunteered to protect us. That is what they are doing. Protecting us.

Just because you are one of the tiny percentage of disgracful Americans who wants to lose this war, don’t preach to the rest of us who love our country. You dishonor America and nothing can cover your terrorist-loving pronouncements. Your intentions are clear as day.

By Anonymous

October 8, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

So here we have @@ declaring that some criminals simply don’t deserve ANY rights whatsoever, despite the Constitution clearly stating otherwise.

Didn’t know you had such contempt for the rule of law, @@. I’m sure you were obsessed with it during Clinton’s term, though.

By Miss Kowalski, 5th Grade Teacher

October 8, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

{{The ACLU will defend child molesters for free because somewhere in their disgusting behavior are rights that deserve dignity and respect.}}

You might want to rephrase this so it makes some sense.

Read it aloud. Then try it again.

By RE

October 8, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

@@,

I think your arguement has merit, I think sexual predators, especially those who prey upon children should have strict penalties and life long parole, a child molestor is not like a normal person, they don’t just change, they do need to be watched for the rest of thier lives. In my opinion.

However, this should be done at the time of sentencing, not arbitrarily after the fact by the city or state without legal recourse.

There is a right way to do this and a wrong way.

By Dusty

October 8, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Anonymous @2:07

You are too scared to even give yourself an ID. You are TOO TIMID to even try to protect your country.

Run, baby, run! Join the loopy liberals with their white flags. Osama is waiting for you at the finish line.

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

October 8, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

ACLU=HUMAN RIGHTS?, I have a question for you if you don’t mind? (Great post btw,) What color was that G string that young man was wearing? Was it disgusting and nasty?

By rushncap

October 8, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

What’s wrong here, @@, is you. As always. Yes, sexual predators are people. Killers are people. You are a person too. Just because you don’t like a person does not mean you can rub their existence off the face of the Earth. God… you’re such a perfect little Stalinist it’s almost disturbing. I’ve always wondered what it is that allowed Stalin to get away with what he did. Now I know: a whole lot of @@s. This is the type of demented psyche that allows one to run a KGB or GULAG camp. “They are animals, they are inhuman, wipe them out.” The thing is she is not dumb. No, she is pretty smart. She just has no conscience whatsoever.

Ladies and gentlemen: @@ is, without exaggeration, a sociopath. A mild version of one, but without a doubt a sociopath.

By RE

October 8, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Any answers yet on why you as a christian are morally superior to me as an athiest?

By IN THE NEWS

October 8, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

””“Oh dear, IN THE NEWS wants to take away my freedom of speech ‘cause he doesn’t like it. “”“

It lies so well. Years of practice.

By georgia 74

October 8, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

From the vent, I really like this. Compassionate conservative-a person who loves other peoples money. Great!

By rushncap

October 8, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile Dusters, bemoaning a lifetime of useless anonymity is puffing up her feathers like she just led the last stand at the Gates of Fire. I think if our opinion of her matched her own, she would not be able to fit the golden statue of herself made by the Pope into her mansion because it would be filled to the brim with Purple Hearts and Nobel Prizes.

By @@

October 8, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

(((I’m sure you were obsessed with it during Clinton’s term, though.)))

Don’t be so sure. I couldn’t have cared less what two consenting adults did in private. I must admit…watching him publicly admit to having lied was rather enjoyable. It was obvious to anyone with a brain.

The consequences fit the crime. Hillary thinks it was that bad old right wing conspiracy that got him into trouble.

Nooooo, it was his behavior that prompted him to lie that eventually got him.

Say it loud and say it proud Bill…

“I, Bill Clinton, screw around on my wife in the Oval Office. If I can escape public scrutiny, all is well. If not, I’ll just lie about it and hope the fools will believe me.”

“Catch me if you can.” Snagged by his own deceit and conceit.

By rushncap

October 8, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

On an entirely unrelated note, it was just announced that a professor at our university won the Nobel Prize in medicine (along with 2 others). And in an hour and a half Sir Roger Penrose is giving a colloquium in the department of physics. And our footy team somehow beat Miami on Saturday. It’s a good day to be a Tar Heel.

By Dusty

October 8, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

RE@2:24

Great!! You want me to answer a question I never asked or a statement I never made. If you have some kind of inferior complex about religion don’t dump it on me. It is your problem, not mine. Each person has to find their own faith.

You are not looking for answers just objections.

By Luckoduh

October 8, 2007 2:48 PM |