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By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 7:26 AM | Link to this
Great cartoon Mike. I love how, thru your demented loony left-leaning moonbat coloring book drawings, sketchings or whatever the hell you want us to call ‘em, you and your punk pinko totalitarian communist bully buddies at the Al-Jazeera Constipation shamelessly push your hippy, tree-hugging, diaper-wearing, pants-wetting, greenpeace-fanatic, cross-dressing transvestite, hitler-appeasing, lunatic-pacifist agenda on the American people. Your pacifist agenda of fervent support and appeasement of facist totalitarian dictators and international terrorists is sure to get even more American soldiers and citizens killed, at home and abroad.
I can’t see, for the love of God, how you liberal snot-rag traitors are able to sleep at night with all of the pain and suffering you have inflicted upon your fellow countrymen. How Luckovick, Tucker, Bookman, Tuck and the rest of the left-wing cabal can look themselves in the mirror and still have the nerve to call themselves “Americans” is beyond me. Do you left-wing traitors even have a conscience? You left-wing, moonbat, liberal democrap morons who are calling for America’s defeat in Iraq, Afganistan and the War against Islamic Facism should be jailed for treason. The AJC isn’t worth the cheap, soiled, bloody toilet paper its printed on (with horse manure).
I almost forgot, Congratulations on your “journalism” accolades, Mike. I sure that your award will make for a good doorstop in some airport public mens’ restroom somewhere.
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
Yeah, that’s a democrat party eating monster, hehehehe.
An American victory in Iraq is going to be a real nasty beast for you koward liberals.
And you are correct, a twin brother or sister named “Iran” would be a welcome addition to the family.
Maybe that one would be an Islamic fascism eating monster.
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{{{{One of 44 Canadian research initiatives to receive a total of $100 million (IPY) research funding from the federal government, Dr. Lamoureux’s new four-year project on remote Melville Island in the northwest Arctic brings together scientists and educators from three Canadian universities and the territory of Nunavut. They are studying how the amount of water will vary as climate changes, and how that affects the water quality and ecosystem sustainability of plants and animals that depend on it.}}}}
$100,000,000 of tax money to study an ecosystem that is supposedly able to “evolve” to adapt to it’s environment.
Hahahahahaha, goofy as-s Canadians, geez.
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Try to guess what the SHrillary Klintoon pep squad at the Urinal is trying their hardest not to tell you:
{{{{NATION IN BRIEF: Obama fund-raising brisk-Urinal}}}}
Brisk in Urinal speak means that he took in more money then SHrillary did.
{{{{Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois has collected $20 million for his presidential bid in the latest quarter, attracting 93,000 new donors and so far leading the Democratic field.}}}}
Everybody’s jumping ship, uh, the USS Fat As-s that is.
By Mrs. Godzilla
October 2, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this
Now here’s a perfect example of unplanned parenthood. Nobody in their right mind thinks that having a baby will only last “ six days, six weeks. I doubt six months”.
And now they want to do it again.
Well, if they do, the election of 2008 will give these clowns a morning after pill they will never forget!
By reebok
October 2, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this
Good cartooon, ML. Captures at a glance the sheer arrogance and disconnect from reality the Chimperor and Dr. Evil share…lucky for them that neither of them has a trace of conscience. Keep up the good work!
By Hey Mad as Zell
October 2, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
232 words in your post.
And not one intelligent thing to say.
Anger like yours is usually medicated or comitted.
Which is it with you?
By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
Too bad that the Islamafacists have loyal allies right here in America in the form of the Al-Jazeera Constipation, the new yuck times, NBC news, moveon.org, Columbia University, the Democrap Party and other liberal pacifist appeasing fervent terrorist supporters of their treasonous ilk. All of you are nothing more than a bunch of poison kool-aid drinking dirty diaper-wearing PACIFIST BACKSTABBING character assassinating TRAITORS. Change your diapers because they’re full of liberal socialist crap and they stink. You pacifist morons are gonna get all of us killed sooner or later.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON — The Republican Party, known since the late 19th century as the party of business, is losing its lock on that title.New evidence suggests a potentially historic shift in the Republican Party’s identity — what strategists call its “brand.” The votes of many disgruntled fiscal conservatives and other lapsed Republicans are now up for grabs, which could alter U.S. politics in the 2008 elections and beyond.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
Most Americans oppose fully funding President Bush’s $190 billion request for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a sizable majority support an expansion of a children’s health insurance bill he has promised to veto, putting Bush and many congressional Republicans on the wrong side of public opinion on upcoming foreign and domestic policy battles.
By Jesus
October 2, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this
{{{{Sitting next to him in his Chevy Suburban for a half-hour as we went from one stump speech to another, I read to him Bill Clinton’s recent comments that Thompson (Lazy Fred) really didn’t seem to know much about some important issues. Thompson’s face hardened quickly. “I will take criticism from Bill Clinton all day long with a smile on my face,” Thompson said without a smile on his face. “I think I know where that is coming from.”}}}}
Driving a Chevy Suburban, chomping on a cigar and dissing the klown Bill Klintoon, is this not the obvious choice for president?
Duh.
{{{{Thompson said he meant that big spending and “ethical lapses” by Republicans were having a “dampening effect on our own people” and others but that “hopefully we are moving away from that situation.”}}}}
Yes.
By CATCH THE IRONY HERE
October 2, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
“I will take criticism from Bill Clinton all day long WITH a smile on my face,” Thompson said WITHOUT a smile on his face.
By Anonymous
October 2, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
I’d think Al Qaeda’s best friends would be Cheney and Bush (as pictured). They’re doing a great job of stirring up more anti-American resentment with their hamhanded blundering, and the terrorist ranks have swelled in response.
Georgie and “Deadeye” Dickie can probably expect a nice Ramadan card and fruit basket this December from their bestest pals.
By Goldie
October 2, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
Fabulous ‘toon, Lucko — this one goes up on my bulletin board today!
By Hey Mad as Zell
October 2, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
Looks to me as if you have a “poo-poo” Issue.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this
Blackwater, State Dept covered up incidents in Iraq
By @@
October 2, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
Good grief ml!!! It’s shameful that you, a liberal, would view your “designer baby” born November, 2006 as monstrous. Shame on you.
The Iranians are anticipating the “the delivery” of a SAM.
(((Signs indicate that Iran is planning to supply its militant proxies in Iraq with shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles. The threat of SAM shipments into Iraq is a useful pressure tactic for Iran to use in its negotiations with the United States over Iraq, but should the threat materialize, Tehran will be crossing a huge redline with Washington.)))
Ahmadenijad thinks your baby is uglier than his and wants the dems to opt for a late term abortion.
By Mad As Zell
October 2, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
Anti-American “poo-poo” is all that seems to come out of the mouths of psychopath liberals.
I’m surprised that moonbats can’t smell their own crap on their upper lips.
By The Last Good Republican
October 2, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
Yep, we’re going to go get Iran.
We can’t get from Baghdad to the airport without getting the she-ite blown out of us but what the hell.
We don’t have enough troops to do the job right. But right here on the front lines of the AJC blogs, we have 5 or 6 posters who I am sure are going to enlist.
One little, two little pre-emptive bombing strikes!
By georgia 74
October 2, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Hillary will straighten all this crap out. Hillary 08’
By Hey Mad as Zell
October 2, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this
That makes you a copromaniac!
By @@
October 2, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
Before I’m off to work. Is this a liberal’s “Alternative” to back alley abortions for low-income women?
At Alternatives, inspectors found blood under operating tables, rusty IV poles, expired drugs and shoddy patient records. The violations, detailed in a 116-page report, required a corrective action plan, which was never submitted.
By B.P.O.E.
October 2, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
No problem. We have an extra $600,000,000,000.00 sitting around for a war in Iran. Besides if we elect Democrats they will RAISE YOUR TAXES!!!
BOMB IRAN NOW!!! Lets do it for Jesus.
By jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
“We don’t have enough troops to do the job right. But right here on the front lines of the AJC blogs, we have 5 or 6 posters who I am sure are going to enlist.”
Oh come on now, these cheerleaders don’t enlist, they defer. They learned that trick from Dick Cheney, Saxby Chambliss, and Rush Limbaugh!!
They defer when it’s time for them to actualy serve, then wait 20 or 30 years and call those who DID serve cowards.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
Four Myths Government and Media Use to Scare Us About ‘Dictators’
By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Georgia 74: you mean Hitlery (and Borat Osama) in ‘08.
Get ready for unrestrained liberalism and socialism in a relentless nanny state. Hitlery’s fooling no one, she’s a HARD CORE EUROSTYLE FEMMINAZI SOCIALIST who’s only out to impose a soviet-style communist state on the American people.
By Eric
October 2, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
One of your best efforts, Mike. This one deserves an award. You’re the best!
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
“By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Georgia 74: you mean Hitlery (and Borat Osama) in ‘08.
Get ready for unrestrained liberalism and socialism in a relentless nanny state. Hitlery’s fooling no one, she’s a HARD CORE EUROSTYLE FEMMINAZI SOCIALIST who’s only out to impose a soviet-style communist state on the American people”
O.K.
Someones been Tivoing too much Hanity again. Those pills you are supposed to take, are they LI-THEE-UM, or are they THOR-A-ZEEN. (you have to do it phoneticaly for these types)
By Abomi Nation
October 2, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
You guys are right. If you ask why the war lovers are not in Iraq you will get all kinds of excuses. Not one of them want to do the actual fighting.
Here’s the best excuse ever. From Jeff a regular on the Wooten blog. In this entry he was making fun of Cleland and Kerry for their war efforts, then was asked why a healthy war loving 25 year old wasn’t in Iraq. Here’s his excuse:
“… Teaching didn’t last very long, but it led me to where I met the woman that in 19 days becomes my wife. It now wouldn’t be fair to her to convert to Marine after she met me and fell in love with me as Jeff. (I know all too well what PI would do to me. It would make me the consumate Marine’s Marine, with all that that entails - both good and bad.)”
By WWW FEDERATION SMACKDOWN
October 2, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
TONIGHT ONLY
unrestrained liberalism and socialism
versus
unconscionable neo-conservatism and fascism
What a match up!
By Abomi Nation
October 2, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
I’ll bet Mad as Zell has a real good excuse for not fighting, don’t you! LMAO.
By Mad As Zell
October 2, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
Jacksonwolff: you sure do know a lot about medications. Looks like the libs keep you well medicated and brainwashed, a must to toe the party line: “HITLERY!, HITLERY!, ALL HAIL HITLERY! (and Borat Osama)”
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
In February, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) warned against setting any kind of deadline for Iraq. Appearing on Fox News Sunday, he said, “I cannot guarantee you success, but I can promise you this: The day you set timelines and deadlines, it’s lost in Iraq.” Nine months later, Graham is setting a timetable for Iraq:
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Judge rules Bush can’t block presidential records.
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
“TOE the party line?”(like I said FO-A-NET-IC-LY)
By Hey Mad As Zell
October 2, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Are you no longer an angry right male?
Seems you lost your tag line.
“”Oh my where did it go???”
By Bosch
October 2, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
Great cartoon Luckovich! Love it. The Bush/Cheney machine has only 13 months left, maybe they can be held off from bombing Iran until after that.
Abomi Nation, Yes, that’s the best excuse I’ve seen and it’s not surprising that it came from Jeff. Jeff is, well, Jeff. I read Wooten’s blog, but don’t participate much, I can’t keep up with both, and Jeff’s posts can be very, um, very, well, I just can’t think of the proper word.
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
btw
Funny how these people operate. I can’t find a rebutal, so I’ll just insult and run.
As for “Hitlery” Hitler was a right winger, genius
By Mad As Zell
October 2, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Abomi Nation: Not as “good” of an excuse as you’ve got for your unconscionable treason and unyielding aid and comfort of the enemy.
Traitors in glass houses shouldn’t throw boulders.
By Hey Mad As Zell/Duh
October 2, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
You so funny!
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
and just exactly how has anyone on the left commited treason? By doing the same thing our founding fathers did (questioning those in power)? Or maybe it’s the fact of journalists reporting the TRUTH, is that it?
The thing you kool-aid drinkers seem to forget is that if it weren’t for us liberals, we would all still be subjects of the crown.
so just blahblahblah away.
By Mad As Zell
October 2, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry Jackowolff, seems that I must have hit a nerve. I didn’t mean to insult your leader. I’ll make it up to you, I got you tickets to the 2008 Democrappic National Convention in Guyana and I heard they’re serving your favorite kool-aid this year, you know that special kind of kool-aid…
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
ON Oct. 11, 1991, I testified about my experience as an employee of Clarence Thomas’s at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. I stand by my testimony.
By Abomi Nation
October 2, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Mad as Zell is just another cowardly chicken hawk. Wow, what a surprise. Who would have guessed that. LOL
By Hey Mad as Zell
October 2, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Is the fact that you left off you tag line - Angry Right Male - has gone away this morning mean that you are consu=idering becomin an angry white female? Or is it that you just aren’t sure which you are?
We can help you there.
Pull your panties down, look between your legs and then compare what you see there with a diagram from a biology textbook. Even you should be able to detemine your own gender.
We’ll discuss orientation at a later date.
By Hey Zellduh
October 2, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
{{{{Brisk in Urinal speak means that he took in more money then SHrillary did.
{{{{Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois has collected $20 million for his presidential bid in the latest quarter, attracting 93,000 new donors and so far leading the Democratic field.}}}}
Everybody’s jumping ship, uh, the USS Fat As-s that is. }}}}
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE GOT TO TELL YOU DO DO YOUR HOMWORK!!!
Sen. Hillary Clinton bested Sen. Barack Obama in third quarter fundraising for 2008’s Democratic primaries, raising $27 million to Obama’s $20 million, which he reported yesterday.
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
yet again, no defense of his side of the argument, just a lame insult and a jim jones endorsment.
they are starting to sound like the teacher from charlie brown, whawahwha
By Mad As Zell
October 2, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
Hey Alien Nation and Jackoff: Trespass onto my property and you’ll find out just how much of a Chicken hawk I am. Liberal hunting season is year-round…
By Bosch
October 2, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
Gee, Mad as Zell,
Now you are contemplating murdering liberals?
Or are you going to challenge someone to a duel?
By Hey Zellduh
October 2, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
I just can’t get over that Angry Right Male thing.
It’s too funny.
I was a witness to the Black Power movement of the 60’s and 70’s.
Now that angrt right males are in the minority are we going to see a similar movement?
Throngs of middle-aged angry right guys, parading down city streets.
Dressed in plaid shorts and polo shirts, heads covered in Budwieser or Nascar ball caps. Each holding a angrily scripted placard duck taped to their nine-irons!
Angry Right Male Power!
Right on Brother!
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Why not iraqi insergent hunting season? You’re such a cheereleader of this occupation, go fight it. Prove you’re not a chickenhawk. Until you have seen war, don’t cheerlead for it, Saxby, I mean Dick, I mean Rush.
btw
I wouldn’t step foot on your land. (I would have to have all sorts of shots afterward)
By Hey Zellduh
October 2, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
I forgot, the signature selection to the angry right guy ensemble - tall white socks with sandals!
By getalife
October 2, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Iran sold the world their case for peace.
The gop will use Iran for their strong on national security issue like they did in the last two elections. It is the only issue they can win .
Too bad Hillary called their bluff and voted yes on the Lieberman amendment.
This leaves the gop nothing to run on and the Rove strategy will fail this time.
Rudy tried to cheat in Cali and failed. The only way they can win is to cheat and they will try.
The gop should go the way of the whig party.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
October 2, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
Mad as Zell,
I have been for some time trying to get somebody to join me in my call for death and/or concentration camps for liberals, those who don’t support the war, and generally those who think for themselves as opposed to the blind sheep we ought to be at least when the GOP has the White House. (If Hitlery attacks Iran I’m sure you’ll be by my side in Pro-American, flag waving protest.)
I am a firm believer that whatever Bush does is directed by the hand of God himself and those who get in His way ought to be killed or at a minimum removed from society.
As your posts have indicated, you too realize as I do that many people in this country are traitors. You also must realize that if we are going to win the war aganist terror that we have to come together. Unfortunately at this point coming together would mean coming together with traitors, so I suggest that we kill them all now and then we can come together to kill whoever we are told to.
Whaddyathink?
RWNJIFG
By brock samson
October 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
support alqeda, vote democrat.
By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Another typical day at the Luckopunk blog: turn the lights on and the punk liberal pinkos scatter like the contagious slimy diseased left-wing facist cochroaches they are.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
Ignore that scum sad as hell and it will crawl back under its rock.
w is crazy but not crazy enough to attack Iran.
He can’t sale it
It is political bs.
By Flipping Off ITN
October 2, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
The message to al-Qaida operating in the area is that they should not only fear U.S. and Iraqi soldiers, but they should also be fearful of the Iraqi people themselves.
“We will take the fight to them,” Prior said “But they should be more afraid of the people because when the people decide to step up, (the insurgents) will have no where to run or hide. Terrorists fear a people who will not cower to them.”
By Hey Zellduh
October 2, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
I see you have checked your drawers and had come to the conclusion that you are an angry right MALE. (Again)
Progress is so good for you.
Oh, by the way, we didn’t scatter.
We are right here ready to put a toe or two right smack on your property.
We may even beathe in your direction!
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Hey Zellduh October 2, 2007 9:46 AM HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE GOT TO TELL YOU ((((DO DO)))) YOUR ((((HOMWORK))))!!!}}}}
Wonderful, a gimpy moonbat spastic who obviously was educated in the Atlanta Public School System, is telling me to do my “homwork.”
{{{{Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois has collected $20 million for his presidential bid in the latest quarter, attracting 93,000 new donors and ———->so far leading the Democratic field.<————}}}}
And:
{{{{Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York did not release her fundraising totals yesterday, but the Democratic front-runner is expected to report having raised less money than Mr. Obama}}}}
Maybe Shrillary called the Chinese since then, you reckon, goony?
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
“By brock samson
October 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
support alqeda, vote democrat.”
UM, the Republicans have done more to help Al Queda’s cause than ANY Democrat.
“By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Another typical day at the Luckopunk blog: turn the lights on and the punk liberal pinkos scatter like the contagious slimy diseased left-wing facist cochroaches they are.”
Yet again, no response to the REAL question or challenges, just ANOTHER LAME insult. If you haven’t noticed, it’s not he progressives who are “scattering” like “cochroaches”.
typical of the right-wing, bible-thumping, self important, facists that control the republican party.
By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
And for the record, I’m not for killin’ liberals. I’m maybe for wounding them (only on a bad day, though) and using them as live bait for Al-Qadea operatives and insurgents in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. Also, as a gesture of goodwill, I’m inviting all those of the liberal persuasion to a very, very, very special NRA Open House this upcoming weekend in the Chattahoochee National Forest, from Friday evening thru Sunday afternoon. If you’re an anti-American, anti-war pacifist liberal, come on out and be sure to wear bright colors. Dinner’s on us.
By Hey Zellduh
October 2, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
{{{Everybody’s jumping ship, uh, the USS Fat As-s that is.”“”
Maybe you didn’t mean USS Hillary… but it would have been so you!
Fact is, Hillary out raised Obama. Get over it. Funny thin about information, there’s new stuff everyday!
And no, no APS for me. My folks and I spent a lot of hard earned, middle class funds to send me to schools you most likely couldn’t buy your way into.
As i have stated before….I post on the fly, my spelling may be iffy due to speed, you’re just the last kamikaze neo-con.
Throw yourself on your sword ZELLDUH, for the cause, and do it Tehran.
By Soothsayer
October 2, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Consider this: What if we invade Iran and the Chinese enter the war? Any student of history will tell you that things were going along fine in Korea until we crossed into China and the Chinese entered the war. After that, we were lucky to get out at all. Basically we got our a*******es whipped. Something to think about.
By Dusty
October 2, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Well, Luckovich put out his usual propaganda stuff. But he labeled his ugly baby all wrong.
That malevolent baby is the Democratic Party having to be pushed along by Bush. It is a big old block in the road in its stoller and it drools anti-war all day and screams for a pacifier.
But Bush will do what he has to do. He is going to win this war in Iraq even with the ugliest baby in the world holding him back.
Sigh…we all have our burdens…
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
October 2, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Mad as Zell,
Your a wuss. Why can’t you stand up for your own convictions? If liberals are what you say they are why shouldn’t we kill them all?
Why should we suffer their anti-Americanism any longer?
When we are all dead because the damn ACLU fought against attaching GPS tracking systems to our colons and implanting recording devices in our noses, I’ll know who is to blame. It’s coward wingers like you who haven’t the guts to defend the nation against terrorists, libs, and homos. Haven’t liberals done more harm to this country than Saddam did. We had him killed didn’t we? So why not the libs you wimp?
When Hannity is President and Ann Coulter is first lady then we’ll teach people like you a lesson about what we do with libs and thier tacit supporters like you.
Die you Lib Lover!!!!!
RWNJIFG
By Goldie
October 2, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
{{Throngs of middle-aged angry right guys, parading down city streets.}}
Hey @ 9:58 — Ewww! For all mothers: hide your children— it’s too ugly a sight to behold!
By getalife
October 2, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Looks like the wingnuts are ignoring the new rule not to bash the vets:
Jon Soltz is not a hero, he’s anti-American, he undermines our troops and mission
rush, morgan, maulkin, faux opinion, all showing they hate the troops.
I knew it all along. They are fake, phony, patriots who only support their failed party. They hate the troops and our country.
Disgusting like sad as hell.
By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)
October 2, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
Pick your poison in 2008: Shrillary or Hitlery?
The Great Pinko Dilemma…
Liberals Upchuck and Dye
By Doomsday: This Friday Oct.5, 2007
October 2, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
On this Friday, Doom will announce his selection for the top blogger and idiot for 2007 on this blog.
Dr.Doom
By Dusty
October 2, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Look at Soothsayer @ 10:43
Another one of those ugly babies. This one is screaming that we “lost” the Korean War to the Chinese.
Let me guess. Next, “baby” will tell us we have lost the Iraq War. These blockheads are still drooling “antiwar” all day long. Would someone please give “baby” a bottle of patriotism?
By Blaise Sewell
October 2, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
It’s scary how many people are such strong followers of any political party. It makes it easier for them to use the language like that Mad as Zell considers appropriate to justify his opinions. I believe its called ‘labeling,’ and people that drone on about liberal this and that only identify themselves as the ones that don’t actually know what they’re talking about. Every single life situation and a person’s reaction to it is like a rorschach test. You can learn a ton about a person that reacts the way they do… regardless of whether their opinion is right or wrong. Take care.
By Hey Dusty
October 2, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
All talk toots.
No action.
There’s a sword for you to fall on to.
You going to help in Iran?
Another neo-con kamikaze.
Impaled on her deadly keyboard!
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
we’ll be on pins and needles.
Damn! didn’t mean to take EL PRESIDENTE’S idea.
By Mad As Zell (Liberals Make Gr8 Road Kill)
October 2, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Blaze Sowell: Let me guess, in your much heralded left-leaning opinion, DEAD WRONG LIBERAL TRASH always know what they’re talkin’ about, even though they’re catastrophically DEAD WRONG.
Go play in traffic…and make sure you play in the LEFT lane.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
The Myth of AQI Fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq is the last big argument for keeping U.S. troops in the country. But the military’s estimation of the threat is alarmingly wrong.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Looks like RE was right:
“Seyed Mohammad Khatibi, vice president of the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC), said at present 65 pct of oil sales are made in euros and 20 pct in yen.
“Only 15 pct of oil sales are made in dollars and we are progressively replacing this with more credible currencies,” he added.
The value of the US dollar has fallen some 30-25 pct since 2004, he said, and “keeping capital in dollars means a significant fall in the value of our assets”.
“We have therefore decided to replace the dollar with other currencies,” he said.”
Ouch, China won without a war.
Geez.
By Dusty
October 2, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
Hey hey @ 11:07
Why don’t you make “hay while the sun shines” instead of the blabbering you do here? You can’t even post your own ID. And don’t mention swords because you couldn’t lift one. White flags are the only thing you can lift.
Another ugly lib baby..drooling away.
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Hey Zellduh October 2, 2007 10:40 AM As i have stated before….I post on the fly, my spelling may be iffy due to speed, you’re just the last kamikaze neo-con.}}}}
Gosh, can you imagine all of the research, thoughtfulness and reasoning that must be going on while this goony is flying through the keyboard just as fast as it’s depraved, illiterate little mind can carry it?
Isn’t this the very definition of hysterical?
Yes, moron, I’ll be extra sure to pay attention to your finer points amidst all of your speed posting, well, then again, maybe I won’t.
Duh.
By like jeffery dahmer
October 2, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Don’t take Hey’s toys from him:
“By Hey Everybody
September 28, 2007 12:44 PM
Like when we were kids and we found a dead animal on the curb. Curiosity made us peek and poke at it. Getting a good look at the insides. What used to make them tick.”
By Flipping Off ITN
October 2, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
How bout this news numbnutz?
Andrew Tilghman was an Iraq correspondent for the Stars and Stripes newspaper in 2005 and 2006.
Tilghman has been AWOL since the recent surge dimwit. WTF does he know? He’s yesterday’s news!!!!
By Jacksonwolff
October 2, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
“By Mad As Zell (Liberals Make Gr8 Road Kill)
October 2, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Blaze Sowell: Let me guess, in your much heralded left-leaning opinion, DEAD WRONG LIBERAL TRASH always know what they’re talkin’ about, even though they’re catastrophically DEAD WRONG.”
DEAD WRONG??! Let’s see….. WMD, Greated as liborators, cakewalk, last throes, the war will pay for itself, mission accomplished, etc…
I’d say that you boys on the right are the ones that are DEAD WRONG!!!
By getalife
October 2, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
The latest vote vets ad
By AmVet
October 2, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Potential great news for the GOP! Some of the most demented in their “base” want to split off into the “God is on our Side” Party!
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/christian_conservatives/2007/10/01/37212.html
Conservatives Consider 3rd-Party Run
Some of the nation’s most politically influential conservative Christians, alarmed by the prospect of a Republican presidential nominee who supports abortion rights, are considering backing a third-party candidate.
More than 40 Christian conservatives attended a meeting Saturday in Salt Lake City to discuss the possibility, and planned more gatherings on how they should move forward.
Rudy Giuliani, who supports abortion rights and gay rights, leads in national polls of the Republican presidential candidates.
Other participants in the meeting included James Dobson, founder of the Focus on the Family evangelical ministry in Colorado Springs, Colo., and, according to Viguerie, Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, a conservative policy group in Washington.
A spokesman for the RNC did not respond to a request for comment.
The participants were in Salt Lake City for a meeting of the secretive Council for National Policy, a group of conservative business, religious and political leaders that was co-founded years ago. VP Cheney flew into the city Friday to address the group.
Christian conservatives, who hold considerable sway in the Republican Party, have been deeply unhappy about the field of GOP presidential candidates.
Dobson has said he wouldn’t support Giuliani, calling the former New York mayor an “unapologetic supporter of abortion on demand.” Dobson has also rejected former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson as wrong on social issues, and wouldn’t back John McCain because of the Arizona senator’s opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
However, the proposal to consider a third-party candidate comes from anger that the Republicans whom Christians have helped elect for decades have failed to act on policy issues important to evangelicals on abortion, marriage and school prayer.
A third-party run could prove disastrous for the GOP by splitting the vote.
Richard Land, head of the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Co
By Hey Dusty
October 2, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
I know you have some kind of learning issue…but I will try to explain CAREFULLY
The ID is Hey, the rest is an attention line.
GET IT DIM WIT?
Now, take your smarta$$ self down to the recruiter and show me just how patriotic you are.
Yep, mentioning a sword or any weapon that you might hold in your hand is a bit ridiculous. It’s satire actually.
You don’t fight. You are a fighting keyboardist - that’s all.
Saving the world one jihadist at a time while blogging at the AJC and folding your husbands’ shorts.
You make me feel soooooo safe!
Someday, when you finally mature, you will hate yourself for all the posturing you have done and not backed up with ACTION.
By Hey Zellduh
October 2, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Now that we now that you are DULL and Zell it makes it easier for the rest of us to make fun of you!
Twice the joy!
Debunking your crap does not take much time. In fact, it’s like taking candy from a baby.
I’m just here to pi$$ in your cornflakes little man.
Man. you are an easy target.
By Hey like Jeffrey Dahmer
October 2, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
You haven’t got the courage to take anything away from me.
If you had courage you’d be taking action, not piddle farting on your keyboard.
You’re another comical panty-waist.
By Hey Flippin off in the news
October 2, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
“”Tilghman has been AWOL since the recent surge dimwit. WTF does he know?”“
Using your logic, your NEVER having been their, just WHAT IN THE FLIP DO YOU KNOW?
(Of course, maybe you are blogging from ANBAR not SUBURBIA)
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
The Democratic chairman of the powerful House Appropriations Committee said today that he was ready to go to the mat with President Bush over further funding for the war in Iraq. Rep. David Obey (D-WI), who spoke today with Reps. John Murtha (D-PA) and Jim McGovern (D-MA), says he has “absolutely no intention of reporting out of Committee anytime in this session of Congress any such request that simply serves to continue the status quo.” He laid our three conditions for the White House to meet: 1. Establish as a goal the end of U.S. involvement in combat operations by January of 2009. 2. Ensure that troops would have adequate time at home between deployments as outlined in the Murtha and Webb amendments. 3. Demonstrate a determination to engage in an intensive, broad scale diplomatic offensive involving other countries in the region.
By hey is for idiots and donkeys
October 2, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
“You don’t fight. You are a fighting keyboardist - that’s all.”
“Someday, when you finally mature, you will hate yourself for all the posturing you have done and not backed up with ACTION.”
Did hey march on Washington last month?
Did hey camp out with sheehan?
Did hey get arrested for storming pelosi’s office?
Is hey on a keyboard here everyday?
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON: Democrats, seeking to highlight the costs of the Iraq war, on Tuesday proposed a U.S. income tax surcharge to finance the approximately $150 billion (€105.8 billion) annual cost of operations in Iraq. The plan’s sponsors acknowledged it is unlikely to pass, but Democrats have been seeking in recent weeks to compare the approximately $190 billion (€134.1 billion) cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars in 2008 with the $23 billion (€16.2 billion) increase that Democrats want in domestic programs. President George W. Bush has threatened to veto most of those domestic spending bills. The plan, unveiled by Reps. David Obey, John Murtha and Jim McGovern would require low- and middle-income taxpayers to add 2 percent to their tax bill. Wealthier people would pay an additional 12 to 15 percent, Obey said.
By Hey You Idiot
October 2, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
As a matter of fact, YES, I have been active…..
Parades
Demonsrations
Peace Vigils
Door to Door Canvassing
Local Party Meetings
Visting legislators
care packages for troops
Yes, ACTION. I take it daily. Try it.
Proud to serve my country.
By Hey You Idiot
October 2, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
By the way,
after your little hissy fit….
just what ACTION are you taking for your side?
Or as usual are you all bark and no bite!
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
This is interesting: A Democratic group in California has filed complaints with the U.S. Justice Department and the Federal Election Commission alleging that the Rudy campaign has engaged in money laundering and violating campaign finance laws surrounding the now-dead California ballot initiative.
By Hey You Idiot
October 2, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
EVer here of WiFi?
Travel broadens ones horizons!
By getalife
October 2, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
It is time for all phony Americans to admit they support their failed gop party and not the troops or our country.
Repent to save your souls †
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
IN THE FEVER SWAMPS,
Thanks for the laugh at 12:52!!! The three stooges redo, Obey, Mothra, and McGovern go to battle against the President and this time they mean it darnit!!!
Too Funny! Thanks again!
By Hey RW
October 2, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
No problem, glad you find it humorous. I imagine you need a good chuckle - considering the status of the GOP.
I’ll mark this day down in my calender. This time next year we’ll be listening for your laughter!
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
So Hey__is IN THE NEWS….figures.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
A miltary official claimed the Blackwater slaughter is worse than Abu Graib
Geez.
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
{{{{By RW-(the original) October 2, 2007 1:15 PM So Hey__is IN THE NEWS….figures.}}}}
Isn’t that funny, this goony can’t even keep track of all of it’s names, geez.
By Hey RW
October 2, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
Right ON!
Took you long enough.
DUH
So now we know
Duh is Zell is Dull etc
RW is Paul
And Hey is IN THE NEWS
Anybody else???
By Hey RW
October 2, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Unlike you, RW, I can admit to the truth.
IN THE NEWS: purpose to put before the people that which they will not see in most other media.
Hey: purpose, to call out the last of the dead enders on what is obviously garbage.
Shameless ain’t I?
By Hey Duh
October 2, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
I consider that a compliment from you.
Old “Blogger of many names” You!
ANdy, Dull, Duh, ZEll
I don’t think you are smart enough to be Doom tho.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
It is a damn shame the wingnuts do not have the guts to use one name on this blog like me.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
AP, networks mum on Romney-Blackwater connection
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
HEY IN THE NEWS,
I post as RW-(the original) and only as RW-(the original). I don’t need to make up other characters to pretend someone supports my positions.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
duh,
List your names.
I post as getalife only but do not lie like RW.
By Hey RW
October 2, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
I DON”T BELIEVE YOU.
I don’t need to make up other characters to pretend someone supports my positions. EITHER
Let’s try it again SLOWLY for you. (Too bad I can’t do it in crayon just for you)
HEY - calls out BS. Ever seen me support YOU? ZellDuh? Nope never.
I’m an attack dog.
I call you out on BS.
It’s nigh on a full time job!
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife October 2, 2007 1:32 PM It is a damn shame the wingnuts do not have the guts to use one name on this blog like me.}}}}
Sailor: Who are you talking to?
~~~~~
I post only as Duh, duh, it is pretty easy to figure out, if I do a parody of some mental cripple moonbat, you will still find the duh label, duh.
Duh.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Iraqi authorities are not only accusing Blackwater guards of an unprovoked shooting of 11 persons at Nisur Square on Sept. 16, but also of engaging in an hour-long firefight with Iraqi police later that day. The firm appears to have deployed attack helicopters in the firefights.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
The truth is doom is PF and many other names, RW is duh and many other names, @@ is dusty and many other names.
May I suggest to quit playing child like games and use one id like me.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
War News for Tuesday, October 02, 2007
Baghdad:
1: The first device targeted an Iraqi police patrol and exploded about 7.30am local time (1430 AEST) on a highway in south-eastern Baghdad, according to a police officer who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorised to release the information. One police officer was killed and five were wounded, he said. 2: a roadside bomb detonated near a commercial area in the early morning in al-Rashid camp, south-eastern Baghdad, killing three civilians and wounding five. 3: A second bomb left at a garbage collection site near an eastern Baghdad market exploded about 8.15am local time (1515 AEST), killing two people and wounding four others, the officer said.Around 8.15 a.m., a roadside bomb exploded at Karrada neighborhood near the commercial Mission compound killing 2 people and injuring 4 others.
4: Another explosive went off near an Iraqi police patrol in nearby Zaafaraniya neighbourhood killing a policeman and wounding five more. 5: In the third reported explosion, three policemen and two civilians were wounded in Zayuna neighbourhood, eastern Baghdad. The blast scenes were all sealed off. 6: Around 2 p.m., a roadside bomb targeted an American patrol at Shaab neighborhood injuring 3 people.Other Provinces here
By getalife
October 2, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
No idiot, sailor is not me.
Confess your names and admit you chose party over country and the troops.
It just might save your soul †
By Paul
October 2, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
AmVet 12:07
[[Potential great news for the GOP! Some of the most demented in their “base” want to split off into the “God is on our Side” Party!]]
Now if the lalalandleft of the Democratic Party would do the same, we just might start making political progress.
Hey Whomever
You can carry on a discussion with me and with RW-(the original) and still make the assertion we are one and the same? Especially after the exchange the other day, wherein you accused me of never asking a question, I referenced about ten since the start of the day - and there was some measure of agreement on several?
Might I suggest to head on down to your local educational institution and sign up for a comparative lit or comparative political theory course?
Mr. L could do the same - might affect his style just enough for some people to question - what are the similarities between Iran now and Iraq pre-2003? What are the justifications? What would the objectives be? How would a campaign likely be waged?
AmVet - I know - whistlin’ in the wind -
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
October 2, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Blaise,
Are you suggesting that people shouldn’t have knee-jerk reactions to political questions and should think for themselves as opposed to being told what to think?
That is a very dangerous idea indeed. For example, if wingers like me simply relied upon our stated principles of realpolitik for the last 60 years with respect to foregn policy, I would have had to oppose the Iraq War. Of course, I didn’t because I was told to support it. There are some so-called Conservatives like that phony William Buckley and Robert Novak and Pat Buchanon who took positions against the Iraq War based upon something called “principle.” I’m not sure what that means exactly but it has something to do with independent thought. I would rather we just listen to the God-fearing flag wavers and you can never go wrong. As Jesus preached, you can always tell whether a person really has the right convictions based upon how public they are about them.
I think the words were: “Trust not the man who prays alone in his closet for he is unwilling to impose his piousness and morality upon you. But do trust the man in the fancy suit and the slicked back hair screaming for and demanding your money and also trust those politicians who are supported thereby.”
RWNJIFG
By Hey Paul
October 2, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Yep, I think you are RW
No biggie.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Morgan Echoes Limbaugh: Soldiers Like Iraq War Vet Jon Soltz Are ‘Anti-America’ ‘Fake’ ‘Posers’ On Fox News’ Hannity and Colmes last night, right-wing radio host Melanie Morgan said Rush Limbaugh was “accurate” when he said that service members who support withdrawal from Iraq are “phony soldiers.” While trying to support her claim, Morgan attacked VoteVets.org Chairman Jon Soltz as part of the “soldiers who are fake, or who are embellishers, or who are posers.”
By Paul
October 2, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul
And you showed such promise the other day…
Just like Pres Bush when he was first elected? :-)
By Hey Paul
October 2, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Or should I say hey Pau?????
By Paul
October 2, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul
And you showed such promise the other day…
Just like Pres Bush when he was first elected? :-)
By Paul
October 2, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul 2:08
Careful, careful… some of your comrades will accuse you of making fun of people with speech impediments. Or is that typing impediments?
By Hey Paul
October 2, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Think back Paul….
You will remember “”Pau”“”
By getalife
October 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
OMG, can somebody tell me what in the hell is this?
Geez.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul
I believe the variations were Paul, Pau and paul. The one who questioned it was (drumroll….)
RW-(the original)!!!
Omygosh, “Hey Whomever” is really “RW-(the original).
My, my. The lengths to which some people will go to ensure they can have an intelligent discussion.
By Hey Paul
October 2, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
actually……it was Pau twice.
That I noticed.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this
Stop playing RW,
Just use RW.
Geez.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
‘You can’t armor your way out of this problem’
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON, Oct. 1 — Citing “credible specific information” about terror tactics, Transportation Security Administration officers nationwide on Monday stepped up their scrutiny of passengers carrying remote-control toys aboard airplanes.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
getalife 2:40
[[October 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this OMG, can somebody tell me what in the hell is this?]]
I’m begging you… NO MORE LINKS!
By Paul
October 2, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
I just heard a news report that said N percent of people polled favored passing SCHIP to provide medical insurance for children.
I wonder what the response breakout would be if the question was, “Would you be willing to pay more in taxes to buy medical insurance for children of families whose parents earn $45,000 a year?”
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
A majority of Americans say the federal government should guarantee health insurance to every American, especially children, and are willing to pay higher taxes to do it, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll……..Americans showed a striking willingness in the poll to make tradeoffs to guarantee health insurance for all, including paying as much as $500 more in taxes a year and forgoing future tax cuts.
Not a complete answer, Paul, but food for thought.
By D
October 2, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
Paul, I actually participated in the poll you are probably referring to, and the question was indeed framed, “Would you support SCHIP even if it called for an increase in taxes?”
I would contend that taxes shouldn’t have to be raised for the program. How about we simply prosecute and fine Haliburton for all the monies they have bilked from our government during this war? That would surely cover the $35 billion needed to cover the program, and we could all get a refund check in the mail.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS
Excellent! I am heartened to hear many citizens are willing to cooperate for the greater good. I read the article spoke of “affordable.” $500 a year to guarantee every American medical coverage sure sounds affordable to me!
So on to the next level. The respondents said they’d be willing to spend up to $500 a year to guarantee health insurance for all.
And they are going to get what level of care for $500 a year? Especially since the NY Times also reported the average cost of insurance for a family in 2006 was $12,106?
Let’s see… pay $500 in taxes, get rid of a $12,106 health insurance premium! Deal!!!
Now in response to the question, “Would you be willing to pay 18 percent of everything you make to guarantee medical coverage…”
Link: NY Times Avg cost health ins premiums per family is $12,106
Anything wrong with this picture?
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Yep.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
By D 3:24
The difficulty with the Haliburton example is the refund would be one-time, while the health program costs are ongoing. After startup, a way will have to be found to fund the program year in and year out.
My previous post does, I think, demonstrate the “leading” quality of such questions. The more specifics that are given, the more the answers diverge.
“Increase in taxes?” Yes.
“Increase taxes $500 a year?” Yes.
“Increase taxes $8500 a year?” Ummm
Some people will see their costs (taxes vs insurance) rise, some will fall. People who have little or nothing will sign on for anything that doesn’t crush them. People with great plans (notice I did not say great incomes) will likely resist. These questions and examples are why, I think, some candidates will remain very, very general in their presentations. (Remember how Hillary got nitpicked to death last time around). Others, such as Romney, who’s done it in Mass, have the ability to say “been there, done that” and trump their opponents.
By Shawny
October 2, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
With 6 of the last 7 Mikey toons being anti-GOP, I feel obligated to offer up a little balance…
Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.
By IN THE NEWS
October 2, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Paul,
This is certainly a complicated issue. One we won’t be able to solve on the blog.
It leads to a gazillion other questions.
How much of that 12m number is for real? How much is padding the bill?
Do we want to have the government(and I mean GOOD government) pay for part of this? Administrate this?
What benefits would a program like this produce that might offset the costs? Would a healthy populace create a dividend we haven’t considered?
Does everybody have to be covered? Or will choice still be available?
I think you and I will disagree about much of this.
My stand is simple. I want for every American to have affordable health coverage. I can’t fake the details, they will have to be hammered out over the years to come.
But this is America. The possibilites are endless.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Geez swarmy,
That reads like one of Paul’s post.
Did you see what that freak said Paul?
OMG, that thing works for Condi.
No wonder that dept. stinks.
Geez.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS
Oh, I don’t know… we may not be that far apart.
The questions I cited were directed more at the “universal, single payer system vs. current” represented by the Michael Moore approach. That’s a polarizing, all-or-nothing approach I think is doomed to failure. That’s why I cited the Mass plan - it KEPT much of the current system, but worked within that framework to mandate a certain level of personal responsibility for people who can, and reasonable assistence for those who can’t.
I think that’s what we’ll evolve to. Not too long ago, education through high school wasn’t seen as a “right.” Now it is. Things change. I think this is one of those things.
Sorry, getalife - I’m not tracking on your last post.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
[Try this one Paul](http://wonkette.com/politics/dept%27-of-diplomacy/top-pentagon-gal-i-hate-all-iranians-305795.php_
That is embarrassing but you ♥ that thing.
Geez.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Try this one Paul
That is embarrassing but you ♥ that thing.
Geez.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
getalife
Please let me restate my 3:01:
I’m begging you… NO MORE LINKS!
A 750 of 42 Below isn’t enough to recover from that…
By Poopah
October 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Today’s blogging so far: go back anywhere in the archives and read the exact same stool samples from the exact same loaf pinchers.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
That necklace it had on is a nazi symbol.
The jacket is commie and that face is only a mother could love.
Geez.
By @@
October 2, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
One of your cohorts here used to call you “gal”.
Who was it? I don’t remember…
and you know good and well I’m not Dusty.
You’re getting ready to “shake that monkey” aren’tcha Sailor?
Doom couldn’t possibly be PoliFore cause I’m #1 on his loves list. I’m #1 on PoliFore’s hit list.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
getalife
When I saw it I initially thought
Link: Pour le Merite
German, WWI, then I thought, naw,
Link: Croix de Guerre
French.
Then I thought, naw, goth wannabe taking lessons from Andy Warhol -
By getalife
October 2, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Come on @@ confess,
It is good for your soul.
By Phil Dolan
October 2, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
Today’s cartoon was gay. Literally and figuratively. A lame duck president could start a airborne offensive against Iran, surgical shock and awe, with very little collateral damage, say, 20 or thirty thousand civilian casualties tops, (depending on the breaks).
Iran couldn’t do any more than what they’re doing to us now in Iraq. The cost/benefit analysis alone justifies the gambit. I think the odds are even-steven that Bush will order an air campaign against Iran.
Remember, it was mustachioed Iranian women in Burkas who tripled-tongued that shrill woo-hoo call of barely-veiled joy when the news about 911 hit the airwaves.
The way Bush’s advisors be reckonin’: “Some folks plain need killin’. We might could oblige justifyin’ the dyin’. Some folks never be learnin’ till it’s too late. So we shouldn’t wait. Word.”
By @@
October 2, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
It is well with my soul Getalife.
I’ve never seen this site before. Not bad….which one of these “innovative” plans is Hillary’s?
Although the doctor shortage raises great concern, the market seems to be responding to the rising health care costs with innovative solutions, which may help alleviate the additional financial stress placed on the consumer.
There’s a conservative “Hey”seed over at Wooten’s. I am soooooo confused.
By @@
October 2, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
Stratfor says don’t worry about the dollar’s value…
(((So while Iran can stand proud and bite its thumb at Washington, proud that it has played a small role in reducing demand for the dollar and thus making the currency slightly weaker, the process racks up a hardly inconsequential cost. In the first quarter of 2007, a 1 percent transaction cost would have cost Iran $500 million, a significant sum for a country wracked by inflation and dropping living standards.)))
(((Currencies rise and fall on a mix of factors, and one of the biggest factors leading to the dollar’s fall is likely petering out. When the Europeans launched the euro in 1998, central banks the world over were not sure that it would last, so they took nearly all of their francs, lira and deutschemarks and traded them in for greenbacks. The result was a surge in the U.S. dollar that peaked in 2000-2001. Since then, central banks — now confident that the euro is here to stay — started switching back. Six years later a new balance is being achieved, and that is likely to put a floor under the dollar sometime in 2008.)))
With all the topics in Stratfor’s discussion forums, the ones that get the most hits are the ones on economics.
Phbbppttt!
By Phil Dolan
October 2, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
The democrats have all been filled in by the CIA and the FBI about what is really happening in Iraq.
Liberals know we can never leave Iraq, ever. They have to play this down till Hillary gets into the ovule office.
We aint nevah gonna git poutta Minaq.
By Paul
October 2, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
Phil
Sure we will.
IF
We decide to embrace a reduction in use of petroleum AND and increase in nonpetroleum energy.
AND
Western civilization can devise policies and alliances to neutralize the danger of Islamists.
Neither party wants to do the first. Many Dems don’t recognize the second - and Rep politicians, by and large, aren’t thinking that far ahead.
By getalife
October 2, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
@@,
What do they say about Greenspan’s dump the dollar warning.
I think I will go with his advice.
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
{{{{When Hillary Rodham Clinton held an intimate fund-raising event at her Washington home in late March, Layton donated $4,600, the maximum allowed by law, to Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign.}}}}
{{{{But the 37-year-old Ms. Layton says she and her husband were reimbursed by her husband’s boss for the donations. “It wasn’t personal money. It was all corporate money,” Mrs. Layton said outside her home here. “I don’t even like Hillary. I’m a Republican.”}}}}
{{{{The boss is William Danielczyk, founder of a Washington-area private-equity firm and a major fund-raising “bundler” for Mrs. Clinton. Mrs. Layton’s gift was one of more than a dozen donations that night from people with Republican ties or no history of political giving. Mr. Danielczyk and his family, employees and friends donated a total of $120,000 to Mrs. Clinton in the days around the fund-raiser.}}}}
By Paul
October 2, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this
Luckoduh 5:58
If MoveOn were a Rep attack machine instead of a Dem attack machine, they’d have taken these words and given us:
Hillary intimate at her Washington home in late March.
Says 37-year-old Ms. Layton. “It wasn’t personal. It was all Hillary. I don’t even like Mrs. Clinton.” Layton donated her husband and her husband’s boss that night.
By Phil Dolan
October 2, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
The reason we cant ever leave iraq has nothing to do with oil dependency. It has to do with this war of spreading subsets of cross border tribal alliances that go further and further into the antiquities of formal ancient feuds.
It’s exactly how we got bogged down in WW1. Men marched like robots into war simply because of those types of alliances which, in World War One, were new alliances just formed up.
THe more ancient alliances/rivalries that will pull us into a larger Iraq war are so old, that they are actually inscribed in our DNA. We will destroy each other for what we perceive is at stake in greater Iraq whether it’s real or not.
That’s why we aint nevah gonna mit poutta minaq.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
October 2, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
Luckoduh,
I found this in the very same story you refernced. Why didn’t you include this left-wing media lie?
“Bundling occurs when an individual raises money from friends, family, and others and then delivers the checks to a political campaign in bulk. While the individual has only given the maximum of $4,600 allowed by law, in the eyes of the campaign they are credited with having raised much more. The practice is bipartisan and was arguably most effectively employed by the 2000 campaign of President George W. Bush.”
They are saying that George Bush is the worst violator! Are you just going to let those lies just sit there?
I know some of you are thinking that Luckoduh left that part out because it contradicts the point that he’s trying to make, but I know that Luck merely overlooked an opportunity to criticize the “drive-by media.”
RWNJIFG
By Paul
October 2, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
Phil
Well, I think the oil nexus is the threat Iran could exert on its neighbors, impeding or disrupting supplies. The Islamist angle is the same - they view the monarchies as corrupt and have their sights set on overthrowing them. Severely weakened now, but that’s the goal.
So if it wasn’t for the oil, or the threat posed some years down the road if a scenario develops with an expansionist Islamic regime(s), we wouldn’t much care what happened there.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
Paul,
You do realize that “Phil” is just Polly Prepuce don’t you?
getalife,
I’m having trouble finding some left wing sources that tell me all this hullabaloo over the phony Rush story is just a distraction to keep from talking about Iraq. Can you help me out?
Oh and did you notice the toilet is back beside the scribbler’s “work?”
By Paul
October 2, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
The style is similar. I just used it as a convenient pad to launch from.
You’re not getalife, are you?
:-)
By @@
October 2, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
There’s a good reason I type Phbbppttt! when typing about economics. I don’t understand what they’re talking about. I did read this though at news.com.au.
(((Former US Federal Reserve (Fed) chairman Alan Greenspan further fuelled support for the US dollar overnight by suggesting the credit crisis had eased and inflation was once again the biggest concern for the Fed.)))
Investors Business Daily is doing a series on George Soros. That man is DANGEROUS Getalife and to think….you support him.
Phbbppttt!!!!!!!!
By Steve
October 2, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
Looks obvious that inferiors such as Zell, RW, Duh, Dustbrain, Paul have been spending even more time in the asylum these days. They need to be eradicated from the face of the earth.
By RW-(the original)
October 2, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this
Paul,
The conservatives here get accused of using multiple names or nicjacking all the time, but the moonbat(ic)s® are the only ones that ever get caught actually doing it and they get caught A LOT!
The best was when “bon scott” that you see around here from time to time was posting as “finch” and “seeker.” “They” were always telling each other how wonderful the other one was and then one day the same thing that happens to them every time happened. He forgot to change his name back from seeker to finch before replying to me.
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
Missed the part about Bush:
With an endorsement of sorts from George Bush, Hillary has now rounded up about all the big names and moneybags in Washington politics. The President predicts she will get the Democratic nomination, and everything seems to be going her way. Never has the adjective “golden” found a more apposite noun to modify than “Ms. Clinton.”
The woman has always had an affinity for gold. You can trace her appetite for bling back to her Arkansas days, when she was a partner in the Rose Law Firm. Questions arose about her billing clients, which have not yet been satisfactorily answered. Nor have the suspicions about her picking up that quick 100 grand in the commodities market been allayed. The commodities market is where they bet on the price of things like oil and pork belly futures; amateur investors get swindled but not Hillary. No amateur she when it comes to the dough-ray-me.
Hillary escaped political damage from accepting campaign contributions from Norman Hsu, the shadowy businessman who has been accused of bilking investors of $60 million in addition to running afoul of the election laws.
When Hillary Rodham Clinton held an intimate fund-raising event at her Washington home in late March, Layton donated $4,600, the maximum allowed by law, to Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign.
But the 37-year-old Ms. Layton says she and her husband were reimbursed by her husband’s boss for the donations. “It wasn’t personal money. It was all corporate money,” Mrs. Layton said outside her home here. “I don’t even like Hillary. I’m a Republican.”
The boss is William Danielczyk, founder of a Washington-area private-equity firm and a major fund-raising “bundler” for Mrs. Clinton. Mrs. Layton’s gift was one of more than a dozen donations that night from people with Republican ties or no history of political giving. Mr. Danielczyk and his family, employees and friends donated a total of $120,000 to Mrs. Clinton in the days around the fund-raiser.
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By Paul
October 2, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
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Thanks for the Investors BD tip. Can read that and Ramirez’s cartoons at the same time.
RW-(the original)
That likely explains why they accuse others of doing such. I’ve found the conservatives perfectly willing to state their case, take the counterarguments and continue engaging - not bailing when the argument gets ratcheted up a knot.
Re: your second paragraph. Reminds me of those cartoons of a guy with a sock puppet on each hand, totally enthralled with the conversation!
By Phil Dolan
October 2, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this
Think about your comment, paul. We invaded Iraq. Old news. We’re there. Yet you’re writing about some fictional scenario where we aren’t there or couldn’t care less if we’re there or not.
I loathe criticizing the thought processes of others. I respect your own sincerity in hoping for that Xanadu in Iraq where it’s us just building another disney world.
But let’s agree to blog about the reality on the ground: Ancient tribes seething with hate. Larger populations vying for position in an expanding circle of preemptive full-retaliatory ambush for remembered transgressions committed by adam and eve themselves.
When we crossed the Tigris, we grabbed that ancient tiger by the tail. If we let it go and leave, that tiger will eat us up.
By Luckoduh
October 2, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this
continued-
If Danielczyk did what the article alleges, he could go to jail. Reimbursing your employees for political contributions made in their names with your money is against the law. Whether Hillary’s connection to Danielczyk will eventually bite her is anybody’s guess. It is believed in the big-money circles where Hillary lives that the practice is common although done with more subterfuge than in Layton’s case.
Both of the Clintons seem to have gone money-crazy. Bill is out loose on the world taking enormous amounts of money from anyone who pays him to appear anywhere and bragging about it. With a pension of $186,000 a year plus innumerable other perks, another ex-President might rein in the itchy palm urge, but Bill is not known as a self-control artist. Whether he is also acting as a bag man for his wife is something for future grand juries to investigate.
Joe Trippi, who devised Howard Dean’s financing his campaign via the Internet three years ago, has weighed in on the ethics of Hillary’s money-raising. Trippi, presently working for John Edwards, ripped into Hillary for
hosting a fundraiser in Washington, D.C., for a select group of lobbyists with an interest in homeland security.
Tickets for the Clinton fundraiser are $1,000 a ticket and $25,000 per bundler. And for that money you get more than a meal—you get to attend one-hour breakout sessions in four different areas of homeland security that will include House Committee Chairs and members of Congress who sit on the very committees that will be voting on homeland security legislation.
That no one in the Clinton campaign—including the candidate—found anything wrong with holding this fundraiser is an indication of just how bad things have gotten in Washington—because there isn’t an American outside of Washington who would not be sickened by it.
Trippi may have underestimated American indifference to graft and corruption, but he is right on the essentials. Much good it will do, for Hillary’s fondness for the long green has not hurt her, at least so far. Besides, in politics, the adage goes, there is no such thing as dirty money.
End.
Nope, no Bush, just another of many Klintoon Kampaign Skandals.
You have to be a rather profoundly stupid person to believe that if Bush had done something like this^^, he would have ever escaped the clutches of the driv
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
October 2, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this
Phil,
Yes, the best way to not get eaten by a tiger is to be close enough to hold its tail.
You are a genuis.
All of those people who think that the best way to not get eaten by a tiger is to get the hell away from it are stupid.
RWNJIFG
By Paul
October 2, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this
Phil
Not realistically thinking about “fantasy scenarios” is why we’re in the mess we’re in. Dealing only with the present as it is makes one rigid, not creative and purely reactionary.
My point was the only two reasons we’re interested in the Middle East. If Tonga invaded Fiji our concern would be? If Brazil invaded Paraguay? Zambia invades Botswana. I was focusing on our strategic interests - which is why we’re there. So far we haven’t done a very good job of changing those interests, have we?
It’s called planning. That’s why the gov’t has 20-year plans. Accurate? Hardly. But guard against too nearterm a view? Yes -