Mike Luckovich

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

Considering that the kid probably paid a hundred bucks for those jeans and another hundred for that haircut, which is the latest style, I don’t know if I’d call him “poor.”

{{{{White House spokesperson Tony Fratto on Thursday said that Bush will veto the bill after receiving it (CongressDaily, 9/28). Press Secretary Dana Perino in a statement said, “The president will veto this bill because it directs scarce funding to higher incomes at the expense of poor families”}}}}

That’s right, SCHIP HURTS poor families as it gives the limited resources of the program to the upper middle class.

This is an unprecedented expansion of government and the national debt, we cannot pay future liabilities for Social Security and Medicare but the pinkos want to lump another monstrosity into the heap of failures.

Wasn’t fiscal responsility a campaign slogan in 2006, that has now become just ANOTHER big fat lie?

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{{{{The Senate’s version of the defense authorization, which is expected to pass later today, is yet another reflection of the contempt many Democrats have for the military. Antiwar lawmakers led by like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Edward Kennedy have jeopardized passage of the bill, which provides critically needed funding for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, by attaching a poison pill: legislation granting homosexuals additional protection under federal “hate crimes” laws.}}}}

What a cheap, tawdry ploy to harm the troops and their mission, what a bunch of gutless wonders the democrats really are.

Politicizing the budgeting of the military, sick, sick, sick.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 1, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

Got to love Bill Kristol

””[W]henever I hear anything described as a heartless assault on our children, I tend to think it’s a good idea. I’m happy that the President’s willing to do something bad for the kids.”“

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

{{{{The Democratic Party was once the dominant political force in American life. It lost that position for two reasons. First, because the electorate discovered that Democrats, beholden as they are to leftist, anti-American supporters, can’t be trusted to defend the country. Second, because voters also discovered that Democrats lacked the strength and the wisdom to defend our culture against all sorts of bizarre social experiment.}}}}

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 1, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Lucko - you amaze me. Please move to Canada so you will have to wait six months for a by-pass when your heart (if you actually have one) goes on the fritz. Or, move to England where you can be diganosed with cancer and wait and wait for treatment and you can be one of the 20% who becomes a terminal case while waiting. This STUPID bill is only a preview of what will happen if Mrs. Kevorkian-Clinton ‘wins’ the White House in 2008. Allowing families earning up to $82,000 to have ‘free’ government heatlhcare insurance is mind-boggling, unless you want to live in a country like Sweden with income tax rates hovering at 80% to fund a failed post-office style heathcare system. Lucko and FIENDS on this blog, please move to Cuba or North Korea where you can live in idealized Socialist splendor for the rest of your pathetic, complaining lives.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 308

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

WAR NEWS

1: In central Baghdad, gunmen opened fire at an Iraqi checkpoint, killing one civilian and wounding four others, police said.

OTHER PROVINCES HERE

By @@

October 1, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

I don’t know ml, I think I’d call SCHIP the Democrats’ “loaded toy”.

That’s the shortest twenty-five year old “kid” I’ve ever seen.

By Hey Duh

October 1, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

Huh’s to lazy to link to the artcle that incldes this….The Democratic Party was once the dominant political force in American life.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Limbaugh selectively edited “phony soldiers” clip, claimed it was “the entire transcript”

{{{{Summary: In response to Media Matters’ documentation of his recent description of service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as “phony soldiers,” Rush Limbaugh claimed that he had not been talking “about the anti-war movement generally,” but rather “about one soldier … Jesse MacBeth.” Limbaugh then purported to air the “entire” segment in question. In fact, the clip he aired omitted a full 1 minute and 35 seconds of discussion that occurred between Limbaugh’s original “phony soldiers” comment and his subsequent reference to MacBeth. }}}}

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Like radio show, transcript on RushLimbaugh.com selectively edits his “phony soldiers” comments

By luckovichisafirster

October 1, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

You religious Sunday going church folk around here that oppose SCHIP do realize that the vast majority of Americans, Republican and Democrat alike, strongly support this program don’t you?

Nearly nine in 10 voters (86%) say they support reauthorizing SCHIP, with a clear majority (63%) saying they support expanding SCHIP’s budget by an additional $35 billion over five years.

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Mr. Head Case, You are simply misinformed, and I do not understand why you persist in spreading such misinformation.

But then again, knowing facts and listening to propogandic nonsense is a specialty of yours it seems.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Bush’s $83,000 Lie About SCHIP

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

One more thing, now I don’t know about moving to Canada, it’s too cold up there, but the Gulf Coast? Now, yes this is a place where I could definitely see me living.

It’s really nice at the beach right now, the sunset was simply splendid last night!

I feel like @@, I’m off to the pool! Ta Ta!

By Hey Head Case

October 1, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Considering the vast numbers of folks who realize now what a bombastic mistake the Bush Presdidency has been - I suggest YOU move out of the country. Somewhere where there is no CONSTITUTION to protect your ignorant (habeus) CORPUS!

It would certainly be more efficient and economical to get the every shrinking numbers of dead ennders out of our nation.

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

When did America give cartoonists the right of free lies? I do not believe the founding fathers of this country gave anyone the “right” to perjure a public official because they don’t like them. We have “free speech”, not “free lies”.

Day after day we see Luckovich making false promotions involving the President. President Bush would never give a lead laden toy to a child. He WOULD veto a bill that would cut into the money amount available for healthcare to the poorest children in our country .

Taking that money and giving it to middle income families who should be able to manage their health needs, simply decreases funds to those who cannot actually afford healthcare for their children. But Luckovich equates such a move as a gift of poisoned toys.

THe poison is not with the President. It is with a cartoonist who will falsify any situation, children or not, to make his own upperclass salary.

By Paul

October 1, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Luckoduh 8:04

[[“The president will veto this bill because it directs scarce funding to higher incomes at the expense of poor families”]]

I thought Democrats authored the bill?!!? What’d they do - change parties?

//sar//

Dick Morris wrote about this scenario two months ago and it’s playing out as anticipated:

Link: Healthcare - House Postures, Senate Legislates

BTW - The Dems are great on PR, lousy on principle. The Reps are great on principle, lousy on PR. The Reps are gonna get killed on this.

Hey Bosch, missed you Friday afternoon. Got rather interesting - You’da had fun -

By Truthman

October 1, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Yep, that’s our Prez…totally oblivious to the problems of real people.

I guess we’re just not part of his “base.”

Schmuck!!

By Hey Everybody

October 1, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

When did American’s get a right to be STUPID?

Dusty sure does take adnantage of that one!

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

{{{{By IN THE NEWS October 1, 2007 8:26 AM WAR NEWS 1: In central Baghdad, gunmen opened fire at an Iraqi checkpoint, killing one civilian and wounding four others, police said.}}}}

You know it’s kind of funny if you think about it, but shouldn’t the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent Iraqi civilians be an outrage to the left, instead of stupid democratic party propaganda like goony junior is doing with his “news?”

Why don’t they ever blame Al Qaeda, you know, the ones actually doing the killing?

Weird, isn’t it?

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{{{{By luckovichisafirster October 1, 2007 8:48 AM You religious Sunday going church folk around here that oppose SCHIP do realize that the vast majority of Americans, Republican and Democrat alike, strongly support this program don’t you?}}}}

1) {{{{“If nothing changes, the federal government’s not gonna be able to do much more than pay interest on the mounting debt and some entitlement benefits. It won’t have money left for anything else – national defense, homeland security, education, you name it,” Walker warned.-CBS “News” whining about the deficit}}}}

2) The federal government is a vast wasteland for tax dollars. If you give 100 bucks in taxes, you can count on only 25 of them being used productively. If you want to help, contribute money to charities and church organizations, people that actually care about children, instead of stealing from the treasury like the libs do.

3) The political parties support this travesty because it buys votes for them. The people support because of propaganda about it helping the poor, which is a bald faced lie.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

The gop hate poor kids and the troops.

Whither Rush Goest, So Goes FOX News; FOX Now Insults War Generals

Scum.

By Hey Duh

October 1, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Prove this.

The federal government is a vast wasteland for tax dollars. If you give 100 bucks in taxes, you can count on only 25 of them being used productively.

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Hey everybody @9:45

Disagreeing with a liberal has never been proven to be stupid. Quite the opposite. Your debating skills prove that.

By Hey Dusty

October 1, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Debating with you is a useless endeavor.

Igneous rock has more cognitive abilities than you.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

In a series of public statements in recent months, President Bush and members of his Administration have redefined the war in Iraq, to an increasing degree, as a strategic battle between the United States and Iran.

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul - I read through some of the posts on Friday, it looked really viscious! I was really busy Friday - day started at 5:00 - had to go to the big city, and it didn’t slow up after that. It looked fun though. I see Buy Danish is back from a long hiatus.

I’m at the beach! Ha ha! Just came in from the pool for a bit (who do I sound like?)

Back to healthcare - the biggest problem, at least in my opinion, is the inflated cost of healthcare. My doctor and I have discussed this, and I can see his point, but he told me that he can’t afford to take in alot of Medicaid/Medicare/Peachcare patients because he can’t afford to treat them-because of the profit margin. He’s got a staff of about 20 that handles appointments, paperwork, etc. who must be paid. And that, it seems is the real problem.

Great doctor, disagree with him a bit, but I can see his point-but then again, anyone who makes me feel better when I’m sick, well, you’ve got to like the guy right?

That’s the issue as far as the doctors are concerned (again, this is from a couple of conversations I’ve had with doctors about this) is that Medicaid/Care/Peach have a flat rate that they will pay and that’s it. It cuts into the business of the doctor’s office which in reality is a small business.

So what’s the solution? I don’t know, but it seems like the inflation of our health care costs is one of the biggest problems that needs to be addressed, but I don’t think the doctors, insurance agents, and business execs of those HMOs would be willing to give up their nice incomes. Know what I mean?

It’s a quagmire.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

[Freedom’s Watch, a deep-pocketed conservative group led by two former senior White House officials, made an audacious debut in late August when it began a $15 million advertising campaign designed to maintain Congressional support for President Bush’s troop increase in Iraq.

Founded this summer by a dozen wealthy conservatives, the nonprofit group is set apart from most advocacy groups by the immense wealth of its core group of benefactors, its intention to far outspend its rivals and its ambition to pursue a wide-ranging agenda. Its next target: Iran policy](http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/30/us/politics/30watch.html?ei=5090&en=99584dd6163c334b&ex=1348804800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print)

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

Is lying about Bill Kristol’s statement by removing the context the fallback “scandal” for when the Rush Limbaugh one falls apart?

Bosch,

That comment from your Doctor should scare the hell out of you and everybody that pushes for government controlled health care for all. When good doctors can’t make any money because of government mandated pricing what do you suppose we’re left with?

By getalife

October 1, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

You will not see freedom watch bash rush or faux opinion.

This proves they are fake patriots like dusty.

They will never bash their ilk.

Pathetic.

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

bosch @ 10:39

You do realize that doctors at HMOs usually work on salary. They do not have to pay rent, insurance, assistants, billings or notifications, call services or supplies. They usually have set office hours which means more free time.

Doctors in private practice must pay all those expenses. Many still do so because of the freedom in making decisions about treatment.

My doctor, even in a clinic setting, is not being made into the “richest”. That remains for ball players, CEOs, bankers etc. Not the medical profession.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Listen for the new political speak for lie:

Disingenuous.

I prefer lie.

Geez.

By Paul

October 1, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Lucky you! Enjoy!

The article I cited earlier on health care - includes the point the House eliminated the cuts in physicians’ fees, an effort to “save” Medicare without cuts to patients (more votes there?). There are numerous docs who won’t take on additional patients in Medicare/Medicaid.

A larger issue - IF we were to go to a Michael Moore plan (Hillary’s, Mitt’s aren’t) who sets the fees? Who sets the income of doctors? Specialists? Nurses? But Hillary - says her plan will cover 50 million additional people and not affect current insured costs? How?!!?

I have car insurance. Gov’t sets up a program, mandates people without car insurance (good number high risk?) get it, insurers can’t deny. After two years, accidents, injuries of policyholders rise. But my premium costs don’t? About that bridge in Brooklyn…

I just had a memory of the commercial of the guy on the beach, sipping a mojito and plinking on his laptop with the schmucks at work…

Thbbbbpppt!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 1, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

RW -

Cram the accusation of lying.

I quoted Bill Kristol.

No context of anykind.

Just a quote.

If he says something that crass, no matter the context, he deserves to be repeated.

NOW, if you want to put it in the “context” you think it belongs in, go for it.

Other wise,

Got to love Bill Kristol:

””[W]henever I hear anything described as a heartless assault on our children, I tend to think it’s a good idea. I’m happy that the President’s willing to do something bad for the kids.”“

As far as the Limbaugh scandal falling apart….

seems he redacted his own transcript.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

getalife,

We know you prefer lie. It’s all you do.

Geez

By getalife

October 1, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

RW,

Like Mrs. G told you.

“Cram the accusation of lying.”

Bwa.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Lets hear the wingnuts bash rush and faux opinion like they did Move on.

They won’t.

They only support their party not the troops.

Frauds.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

The conversation that was taking place was about the way debates are framed to distract from the issue at hand.

Kristol’s point was that when the debate was framed that evil Republicans were out to harm children it was probably a good thing to defeat the legislation because obviously the particular proposal couldn’t stand on it’s own merit so “the children” had to be brought in as a shield.

The quote you made is deliberately plucked out of the conversation to change it’s entire meaning. That makes it a lie. It doesn’t necessarily make you a liar, you could just be ignorant and as I’ve mentioned here many times, ignorance is curable when one takes the time to learn the facts.

By Paul

October 1, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla - RW-(the original)

Okay, on the Kristol thing, I’ll bite. First three Google hits I got were from Radio Left, Crooks and Liars and Think Progress. Hmmm.

The “context” seemed to be “it’s a good thing” because the American voters will see it as a transparent political move. He cited using a 12-year-old in a commercial. Remember those other irritating commercials about kids expounding on the issues of the day?

“For the children” has been an effective tactic for sympathy, limited discussion and political maneuvering.

Personally, I think Kristol’s off - the sympathy factor will be with Dems - I think many Americans won’t delve into the issue but will remember “Dems want to help kids, Reps don’t” - even though Rep Sen Hatch was a cosponsor.

Rather like the MoveOn ad - avg voters will be left with the impression “Dems trash serving General for political aims” - it’s often the impressions (not facts) that count.

By Mrs. Godzilla

October 1, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

No RW…

It was a quote. Not a lie.

Kristol said it.

You might not like that I did not post all the befores and afters, but tough. You’re a big boy get over it.

Bill Kristol said:

””[W]henever I hear anything described as a heartless assault on our children, I tend to think it’s a good idea. I’m happy that the President’s willing to do something bad for the kids.”“

Here, have a little context on me

Why not try and find a real issue?

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Paul,

The 12 year old child wasn’t a commercial. it was the Democrat response to the weekly Presidential radio address.

Talk about crass exploitation. Instead of an articulate Democrat coming on and explaining why giving the “rich”* SCHIP was a good thing they trotted out a 12 year to say Republicans were trying to kill him.

.

* People making 80K are going to have their taxes increased because Dems consider them rich under tax policy, but poor when expanding government entitlements.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

{{{{{Why not try and find a real issue?}}}}-by Mrs. G

Indeed!!! I certainly wish you would.

By Paul

October 1, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

The fact of quoting someone’s words means only the fact the person said them is true. It does not mean intent for which the person spoke them is true.

From last week:

[[Last night PBS interviewed Sen Daniel Inouye, Democrat from Hawaii. He said the first time he killed another human being he felt good. He said he never felt remorse after killing other people, either. In fact, he said he came upon another person leaning against a wall, his hand out, and he smashed in his face with a rifle butt. I found the reporting quite good. Everything was accurate

Sen Inouye/PBS) (comments) were used to illustrate a point - taking what has been said or written, removing it from context, implying another context, running together disparate quotes to imply a point and fit a political agenda. (Both are( wrong, sloppy, yet typical of what passes for “journalism” or “analysis” on our political environment.]]

RW - thx for the clarification. I still find using children in such addresses or commercials exploitative.

Dems have laid down a number of “rich?” Didn’t Al Gore get in a bit of a problem when he said a family making $60k were rich?

I’ve always been suspicious of taxing “the rich” to pay for everyone else’s benefits. A couple weeks ago Ben Stein was on BOR - said a 10 percent surcharge on wealthy household’s income would pay for the program under discussion. BOR said “define rich.” Stein said “five million a year. You’d have to pay.” BOR said “I think that’s fair - I’d do it, just as long as you don’t sock lots of other families.” Stein said “That’s right, $200,000 is not rich in today’s economy.”

I’ll bet most Dems would think it is. Favorite topic: think Kennedy, Pelosi, et al will open up their trusts to such taxation?

By getalife

October 1, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Again RW,

It is okay if the gop does it.

Cram your double standard hypocrisy.

Bwa.

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

RW, No, that comment from my doctor didn’t scare me as much as it made me think about the people who can’t afford to go the doctor. There are plenty of doctors who are willing to forego the big salaries, but they have student loans, overhead, etc. too.

I don’t know the answer like I said, but I do know people without insurance-one recently who thought she had breast cancer, fortunately, she did not, but she would have had to face complete financial ruin or life, which I don’t think any American should have to face that decision. We are the richest nation in the world, and no man, woman, or child, of any age, should have to face bankruptcy or getting treated for a medical issue.

Paul,

I don’t think any candidate has the end all solution for health care, that’s impossible - it will take a lot of change and redirect thinking in our culture -

It bothers me to read bs like Mr. Headcase posted earlier, because while the European healthcare system isn’t perfect, there are some problems, sure, but the people I know who live in Europe-some who have had serious medical emergencies and illnesses did not have to wait six months for treatment. Are there problems there? Sure! But I always get sick of people like Mr. Headcase spreading such misinformation because it simply isn’t true to that degree.

Later if I log on, I’ll will have been drinking gin, so I should be lots of fun! Last night we took a cooler of Coronas to the beach, set up our chairs and watched the ocean and sunset for about two hours-right as the sun set a group of dolphins started jumping out of the ocean, it was like a movie - it was simply great!

You guys have fun today! I’m out of here on an ocean adventure!

Ta Ta!

By getalife

October 1, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

The SCHIP Veto is political suicide.

I am not surprised RW and his ilk cheer it on because they hate the troops and poor kids.

They chose the wrong path, their party over everything.

Frauds.

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Ah,Mrs. Godzilla,

You say Bill Kristol’s satirical debate statement, taken out of context, was something terrible. Was that not SATIRE??

I have not heard you say that Luckovich’s cartoon showing Bush handing out a lead poisoned toy is terrible. Always, liberals say that such pictorial lies are SATIRE.

What a double standard!!

Why don’t you find a real issue instead of your usual liberal litanies of loose fabrications?

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

One more thought before I leave - It astonishes me that a nation who is willing to give so much for isolated cases- Katrina, or specific cases of people who need medical attention (I think of the jars you see asking people for their change for someone whose sick) and whom many think of themselves as Christian, can not for the life of them think in terms of ALL Americans being able to have access to healthcare.

We still think as a culture that we will have things taken away from us personally, and we must really ask ourselves what exactly it is we will have taken away from us. Can’t we share just a little? Who knows.

Will there be people who abuse the system? Sure, but there are those abuses now.

But that’s what I mean about a rethinking of our culture.

Maybe I’m being just a little more philosophical today.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Judge Thomas gave us a new catch phrase:

“Whoop-dee-damn-doo”

His hatred of liberals should have him recused from the Supreme Court.

By GETA rectal cranial inversionLIFE

October 1, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

No life (11:46), You’re real good at defining others, however, most all of your definitions are just a reflection of you and the liberal agenda.

Between Truthman, In the News and Getalife there are very few facts or truths. You ARE the party of hate, loser!

By Goldie

October 1, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Oh, I’m just heartbroken that Newt won’t be running in ‘08 — what a doggone shame.

By Truthman

October 1, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Why is it OK to socialize our Police and Fire Departments, our libraries and even some of our Lawyers (Public Defender’s office), but all the conservatives get all in a hissy when one mentions National Health Care?

And don’t call it “Hillary-care” or some other such clap-trap. The majority of Americans want National Health Care, so you can shi#-can your Hillary-hatred.

By Truthman

October 1, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Hey In the News and Getalife:

We’re famous!!

Ain’t it fun tweaking the neo-conmen and women about their total loser/murderer/traitor Chimperor with American blood on his hands (Bill Maher 9/27/07, and truer words were never spoken!)!!

Let’s keep it up.

The cardinal tenant of a journalist:

“To comfort the afflicted, and to afflict the comfortable.”

By getalife

October 1, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Is that you time for the toilet?

Shouldn’t you be on Jim’s crack thread?

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Podhoretz: ‘I Believe Bush Is Going To Order Airstrikes On Iran Before He Leaves Office’

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Oh my, Americans are only paying for one third of all USA citizens healthcare with Medicare, Medicaid, VA and Dept of Defense. If you throw in tax credits and deductions, government pays for healthcare for one half of all Americans.

All that paid by those cruel American taxpayers who will not share a little. Sob!

(Somebody has been out in the sun too long.)

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Rude Giuliani If he wants voters to respect his privacy, he ought to show some respect for basic manners.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

There is no American that doesn’t have access to health care and their are hardship programs aplenty to help pay for catastrophic illness. Think about how affordable a policy would be if we paid our own day to day expenses such as routine exams and had insurance just for the big things.

Nobody is denying the truly needy, but the left just can’t debate this issue honestly

Paul,

On the same show Chuck Schumer said the SCHIP needed this large expansion because the average family in the US pays $20,000.00 a year, out of their own pocket, for health care every year.

That’s a far more fantastical comment than the out of context example from Bill Kristol.

He also said he was paying for this expansion by adding about 200% to the cigarette tax and then told us that the good news about that is that people would quit smoking. No wonder he’s a life long politician. Where else could you prosper with “logic” like that on your side?

By Mad As Zell (Angry Right Male)

October 1, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

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By Goldie

October 1, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

The Repug primaries could get really interesting if the religious extremists have their way:

Alarmed at the chance that the Republican party might pick Rudolph Giuliani as its presidential nominee despite his support for abortion rights, a coalition of influential Christian conservatives is threatening to back a third-party candidate in an attempt to stop him.

Is it because the Repugs are so bad at PR, or is it just that they have no principles???

By Paul

October 1, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 12:38

Let me make sure I get this straight:

Dems want to expand a SCHIP. Dems want to pay for it by increasing taxes on cigarettes. They know going in that it will cause people to quit smoking.

People quit smoking, therefore, the government loses the cigarette taxes that paid for the SCHIP expansion. But SCHIP has already expanded…

Now how do they intend to pay for the lost taxes to keep SCHIP going? I don’t have to spell it out, do I?

See you later this afternoon -

By getalife

October 1, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Sad as hell,

Chill dude, I bought you a present

Bwa.

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife October 1, 2007 11:46 AM The SCHIP Veto is political suicide. I am not surprised RW and his ilk cheer it on because they hate the troops and poor kids. They chose the wrong path, their party over everything.}}}}

Someone should reboot the getalife robot, it seems to be stuck on the same stupid message and is repeating it over and over, geez.

I guess it is all these pinkos can do is whine:

{{{{Speaking to This Week, an ABC programme, Mr Clinton accused Democratic rivals who criticised his wife of “rewarding the Republican attack machine” that had “beaten up on her for 16 years”.}}}}

Awww, isn’t that awful?

SHrillary, what do you think of it?:

Ccccaaaaaacccccckkkkkkklllllllleeeee.

Sorry I asked.

{{{{They call it the Clinton cackle. It comes out of the blue, lasts a few seconds and leaves those who witnessed it wondering if they have missed a joke. Hillary Clinton’s deployment of the full belly laugh is the latest weapon used by the leading Democratic presidential candidate when she is being pummelled by reporters or rivals. Friends say the cackle is her way of deflecting aggressive questioning. It may also be a sign of nervousness over Iowa, where she is now running second to Barak Obama, according to one weekend poll.}}}}

Or maybe because she’s a witch?

Duh.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

If the “religious right” runs a third party candidate we’ll just trick some Democrat in Florida into designing a butterfly ballot and then trick a Democrat voter board into approving it then we’ll trick an entire county of Democrats into voting for the third party candidate.

According to you guys it’s worked once already.

By RE

October 1, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

which is the most dangerous and belligerant country in the middle east?

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 1, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

The problem is, in reply to a pseudo-name jacker, that this bill just passed by the Demoncrats and some Republicans who have taken leave of their senses is NOT a reauthorization of SCHIP! That is a LIE. This bill is as passed by the Senate and the House (I’ll pray for Nancy Pelosi, since I know for a fact she is an atheist) is a huge expansion of federal tax-payer financed health insurance. This is NOT a reauthorization. You can call a jackass a horse, but it is still a jackass. This is just one big jackass passed by a bunch of people who brag about being jackasses!

By luckovichisaheadcase

October 1, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

RE- I assume you are one of the resident anti-Semites on this blog. Israel is hardly belligerent when it is trying to defend its very existence. The correct answer to your question is IRAN and SYRIA jointly!

By Goldie

October 1, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

{{we’ll just trick some Democrat in Florida into designing a butterfly ballot }}

RW— what I don’t understand is why the religious extremists don’t get behind one of the 10 other candidates already on the slate for the Repugs? Why resort to your usual “tricks” when you could get behind a candidate such as Huckabee, Tancredo, Hunter, etal ad nauseum? Is it because the Repugs really have no principles???

By Paul

October 1, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

RE

Wow! The numbers of Israelis who think it’s okay to use nukes during war or who think it’s okay to use them to prevent a war (let me have some license and say - not extend a war) is, I think, way lower than the number of Americans who thought the same… during WWII?

So I suppose during and immediately after WWII the US was the most belligerent and dangerous country in the entire world? (smile - just waiting for my lunch appt) -

By Good Question

October 1, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Is it me or are all the repuli-trolls here the cheapest, greediest, meanest bunch of self righteous fascists you’d ever heard?

Can we create an internment camp for the terminally Un-American?

We need to weed these people out of decent society.

By georgia 74

October 1, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

litannies, interesting word.

By Truthman

October 1, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

RE:

I’d say the United States.

TO: Religious nutjobs including John McCain.

FROM: The Founding Fathers

Subject: Establisment of religion:

THE FIRST WORDS IN The Bill of Rights: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or the free exercise. thereof.”

AND Article VI, section 3 says: “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

Why don’t you nutjobs read and defend the real Constitution of these United States instead of the one Pat Robertson, James Dobson and John McCain seem to believe exists!!

By Good Question

October 1, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

They all need to be forced to wear a big red R on their chests.

By RE

October 1, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Just thought someone out there might start to wonder why, among other reasons we started a war with Iraq. Why we will have permenant bases in Iraq, and why we are moving toward war with iran and syria. They are all to protect israel. Our entire mideast policy is now dictated by what is beneficial to israel. American soldiers will continue to be put into harms way to protect this country which is completely dependant upon the US.

Also, it does not matter who you vote for, all the frontrunner candidates are already beholden to the Israel lobby, and there is no discussion of it in the papers or on TV.

I would like there to be an honest and open discussion on the subject. Is the protection of Israel, at the expense of engendering hatred to the rest of the middle east, in the balance benefit or harm the United States. I would like for the US to shape policy based upon it’s own interests, not that of a foriegn country.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

How dare those awful Israelis consider keeping Iran from making good on their daily threat to annihilate them and wipe their country off the face of the earth???? <———-sarcasm for the challenged ones here and Goldie you know who you are.

RE,

The nazi in you is showing.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

The children bashing her laugh need to grow up.

Stupid children.

President Clinton on MTP was pure genious in his political strategy.

No wonder he is the most popular politician on this planet.

I can’t wait for them to clean up the swamp the bushies left.

Back to the good ole days of a superpower.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

To Date: Romney Gives Himself 1 Out Of Every 4 Dollars In Campaign

By RE

October 1, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

And there you go, any discussion that is not supportive of israel and there is immediate calls of anti-semitism and nazism.

Why should US soldiers but put in harms way for israel?

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, told Tory delegates today that efforts by the UK and the EU to negotiate with Iran had failed and that he saw no alternative to a pre-emptive strike on suspected nuclear facilities in the country.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

McLoser went commie on the freedom of speech with Move On and now with freedom of religion.

I think the North Vietnamese brainwashed him into being a commie pinko.

He is a commie, freedom hating, unAmerican loser like his ilk.

He should resign in disgrace along with his buddies, w and cheney.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Blackwater: The Confidential Iraqi Incident Report An extensive evidence file assembled by the Iraqi National Police after the controversial Blackwater shooting suggests that the private contractors opened fire unprovoked from the ground and the sky.

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife October 1, 2007 1:32 PM The children bashing her laugh need to grow up. Stupid children.}}}}

al-Gitmo: Think about this, SHrillary is the most closely guarded presidential candidate in history, “she” is surrounded by a phalanx of goonies that will stomp anything that gets too close, the only words that come from her pig mouth have been formed by a group and are rehearsed to perfection so that everyone is pandered to in some form but yet “she” still turns loose with a vile, repulsive, deviant cackle straight from the bowels of hell.

What evil dwells within that monster?

What horror will burst forth from “her” if she wins the election?

This is what you call “restrained?”

Either that or “she’s” a blooming idiot<———!!!!!

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

War News for Monday, October 01, 2007

Security incidents:

Baghdad:

OTHER PROVINCES HERE

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 1, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

RE,

There is a very good reason that a US soldier should kill and die for Israel. The Bible says that the second coming will happen only when the Jewish people are in Israel. And then, when he returns, he will kill them. Therefore, if there is no Israel, there is no return of Jesus, and Jesus doesn’t get to kill the Jews. That’s why we can’t let the Islamists kill the Jews, Jesus has to do it so those of us who are saved can be raptured into heaven.

Its all very clearly spelled out in the Bible. So if you love Jesus, you have to kill the Muslims so they don’t kill the Jews so Jesus can kill them when he comes back.

I hope this clarifies everything.

RWNJIFG

By Truthman

October 1, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG!

X-lent. Couldn’t of said it better!!

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

RE,

This all boils back down to the same idiocy you were peddling a couple of weeks ago. We don’t just help support Israel we also support and protect the moderate Arab states in the region.

If we do things your way Israel will be wiped out, but so will Kuwait, Qutar, the UAE and so on until you have one huge radical Islamic caliphate with nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons plus the control of our oil supply.

Good plan!<————sarcasm again

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

President Bush gave a false description of proposed legislation to expand the 10-year-old federal program to provide health insurance for children in low-income working families.

By RE

October 1, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

And dogs and cats will be living together… Mass hysteria.

Face it, we support the foriegn countires which pay off our politicians. Thats all. Saudi Arabia and Israel contribute vast sums to both the GOP and Dem parties, and our foriegn policy is skewes that way. Surely you do not believe that Saudi arabia is a moderate country.

We need to take a step back and reconsider our policy in the region and base it upon what is best for the US.

By AmVet

October 1, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Goldie @ 12:23.

Me too!

Part of me was hoping our very own nutty Newt would run. Can you imagine the field day the comedians would have with that guy?!!

Seriously, most agree the guy has always been intelligent, which is in and of itself very unusual for a neo-con.

And in spite of his constant recent epiphanies about this disaster called the GOP, I sense that in spite of his megalomania that he understands the nation now rightfully sees him as the very poster boy of this repudiated and failed ideology which he helped create and empower.

That and he is the unquestionably THE single person most responsible for turning the already dirty game of politics into the sleaze it is now and why civil and rational discourse was the victim.

The Republicans don’t stand a chance in this upcoming election and he knows it. He just doesn’t want to watch the train wreck from up close.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

duh,

She needs protection from the “whignuts” (whig party).

Ya’ll are dangerous and should be in gitmo.

Grow up child.

Geez.

By RUDEE RUDEE RUDY

October 1, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Nice photo

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

How appropriate that the advertising department has placed a big toilet right next to the scribblers “work.”

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

Have you checked out the Dow in the last couple hours?

By getalife

October 1, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

RW,

Get off the dope man, there is no toilet except “time for the toilet” on Jim’s blog.

Geez.

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RW-(the original) October 1, 2007 2:44 PM Luckoduh, Have you checked out the Dow in the last couple hours?}}}}

RW: Yes, apparently RE’s predictions of the impending demise of our economy has set off a wave of buying.

I hope he’s got some more bad “news” for us.

~~~~~

{{{{This is not to say they cannot still deliver such attacks, but the new U.S. strategy has crippled them. Don’t just take my word for it, listen to the latest Al Qaeda “martyr,” Abu Osama al-Tunisi. In a handwritten note found at the site of his death, the Al Qaeda in Iraq #2 wrote, “”I have been surrounded…for two and a half months because the road has been closed by the Apostate, and there is no other way,” he added, “We are so desperate for your help.” The words of this high-ranking Al Qaeda member speak volumes, and underscore the now undeniable counter-narrative happening in Iraq.}}}}

{{{{As for what has not happened, there is a number that may or may not make headlines tomorrow: 62. This is the number of American combat deaths in September, and happens to be the lowest since August of last year. And while this number is still too high, it is nonetheless relevant. Despite a counter-insurgency strategy that makes U.S. troops more “vulnerable,” American deaths have dropped.}}}}

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

>cough< I’m telling you it’s a toilet dude.

Here >passing bong to getalife<

By mm

October 1, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Great toon ML.

The expected veto of the healthcare bill will be as dangerous to our kids as the cheap, dangerous toys being dumped on our kids by the greedy, profit crazed corporations.

Bush would rather let kids go without healthcare than disappoint the 30% club.

The RepubLIEcans will pay for this one.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Yea, give me that, you have had enough man.

Hallucinate much?

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Reid On Senate Floor: Republicans Who Criticized MoveOn Must Condemn Rush ‘With Equal Fervor’

By RE

October 1, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Are you tracking the value of the dow in US dollars or Canadian…. Oh wait, they are the same value now.

Check the average of the dow/gold, it is a more accurate picture.

Don’t worry, we have a strong dollar policy and inflation is in check, so says bernanke <—- sarc

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

RW, What are these “hardship programs” for catastrophic illnesses you speak of?

Care to name any?

Access to healthcare isn’t such an issue, that’s true, but what is the issue is the COST of said healthcare.

There are a world of people without health insurance who work but don’t have insurance because their employer doesn’t provide it, or they work for themselves and can’t afford it. These people make too much money for Medicaid/Peachcare, and not enough to afford insurance premiums.

My mother owns a small business - three full time employees other than herself, and you would not believe the money she pays for insurance for the two people who need it (their spouses do not have insurance with their jobs). It’s amazing. She feels a moral obligation to her employees to pay for the premiums, imagine that.

I would be interested to see a flow chart of an insurance claim- and see how much money it takes to process that claim. That’s the real issue, it is so inflated because there are so many people making tons of money on it.

It’s like the stock market, the money and profit aren’t really real. But unlike the stock market, this is an inflated NECESSARY product and because it is necessary, the end cost can be set by the people who are reaping in the proceeds.

How honest is that for such a debate?

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE October 1, 2007 3:24 PM Are you tracking the value of the dow in US dollars or Canadian…. Oh wait, they are the same value now. Check the average of the dow/gold, it is a more accurate picture. Don’t worry, we have a strong dollar policy and inflation is in check, so says bernanke <—- sarc}}}}

To translate for those of you not familiar with the advice given by my Global Economics Analyst, RE just said to buy dollars.

Just like Greenspan, you have to decipher what he really means.

So buy dollars it is.

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

RW, Another case in point, big companies, for example, Bell South, as the old guys retire, they hire “temporary” contract employees to take their place, and because they are contract employees, they do not have to offer health benefits. These temporary employees make about three fourths what the old guys made, and have to pay for their own insurance.

By Luckoduh

October 1, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Finally, a House Resolution that isn’t a bald faced lie:

{{{{Commending Rush Hudson Limbaugh III for his ongoing public support of American troops serving both here and abroad. Recognizing Mr. Limbaugh for his relentless efforts to build and maintain troop morale through worldwide radio broadcasts and personal visits to conflict regions.}}}}

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Oh and here’s a good life lesson for all:

NEVER take a BC Powder with a beer.

Not good.

By RE

October 1, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

We have a clown for president, why not monopoly money for currency.

Buy gold, or BD pound or Euros, dump dollars US. Everyone else is.

By RE

October 1, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Sorry, GB pound sterling.

BD continues to be worthless

By Hey Duh

October 1, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Can Jack Kingston really hear Rush when he has head head stuck so far up the Limbaugh poop shoot?

By Hey Duh

October 1, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Today on the Senate floor, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) condemned Rush Limbaugh’s “phony soldiers” comment, saying that the radio host makes these “provocative things to make more money.” He then offered another possible explanation for Limbaugh’s “over-the-line” remarks:

Well, I don’t know. Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know. But that shouldn’t be an excuse.

By Midori

October 1, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Wonderful toon, Mike.

I like the way you draw him more cartoonish as he morphs into a real-life cartoon more and more every day.

Good job!!

By getalife

October 1, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Kingston is from GA and hates the troops.

Nice.

The wingnuts are forming their own party.

This is great news for the dems and the country.

They will take away gop votes and be marginized.

Things are looking better for our country.

By Clem

October 1, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

The brainless here did not bother to witness Judge Thomas’s interview. Football instead. His interview and book reveal a man who admittedly has been and continues to be filled with hate, anger, resentment (his words) and much more since the day he popped out of the chute. All this in a Supreme Court Justice. In other words, he is the perfect Republican.

By IN THE NEWS

October 1, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Bolton: We Should Carry Out Regime Change In Iran Because ‘It Did Work In Iraq’

By Midori

October 1, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Britney Spears has lost custody of her children — watch the non stop, breathless “reporting”.

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Good advice, RE 3:59

Just send your American dollars to me. I will throw them away for you. I love their nice green color.

If you want a receipt, I will send you one written on a one way ticket for a far away country. That should make you happy. I aim to please.

By LuckoDuh

October 1, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Look at what the kandy a* kowards call hate:

{{{{Whereas Mr. Limbaugh has consistently used his broadcast time to praise American troops and support them during their ongoing efforts to secure peace in a troubled world; Whereas Mr. Limbaugh made a week-long visit to meet with troops based in Afghanistan in 2004; Whereas Mr. Limbaugh has raised and donated millions of dollars to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, which provides college scholarships to the children of Marines and veterans of other branches killed in action; Whereas Mr. Limbaugh’s website features an “Adopt a Soldier” program which provides them with free subscription access to his online program features; Whereas during the original invasion in 2003, pilots of five different aircraft flew an American flag in Mr. Limbaugh’s honor during their bombing and refueling runs;}}}}

And this is what these freaks call support:

{{{{Marine Names Filthy Mouth Murtha in Defamation Suit}}}}

Sue the b*stards.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

In many cases oncologists will take uninsured patients that truly don’t have other means and treat them for what amounts to about 10% of what would have been the cost and allow the patient to pay that 10% as they can Sadly they don’t often even get that. You would think someone would bust their butt to pay that back over time. I guess it’s the same mindset that got them into a position of having no means or insurance to begin with.

That’s a private arrangement that doesn’t need to be channeled through government so I can’t give you the government program name. I’m sure the same holds for many other diseases. There is often private sector help through Churches and foundations that deal with various diseases.

As for Bell South or any other company I don’t see anything wrong with them building their business model any way they want. If they couldn’t do a quality job without paying what you said they paid the “old guys” and providing those contractors with insurance they would lose market share and go back to that model. Frankly you’re in my field of business now and the whole industry is contract business. Makes a real sweet deal for those of us that like to provide contractors to multiple vendors and still be allowed to maintain our own customer base.

By LuckoDuh

October 1, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Hey, I heard Bush call soldiers that didn’t agree with his Iraq policy “phonies.”

Honest, I did!

You slobbering morons should run with this nugget of truthful unverified information, maybe even threaten Bush with a House Resolution condemning him, well, before you scatter like rats, hiding beneath your rocks, anyway.

Let’s make Bush a martyr just like you did with Limbaugh.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 1, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

Rush can call anyone he damn well wants a “phony soldier.” Rush is pro-military and pro-personal responsibility. In short he is a great American who is entitled to call any person in uniform a “phony” if he wants to. I mean its not like he is some sort of draft dodging, drug addict who preaches personal responsibility and discipline while eating himself up to 350 pounds.

However. there are those who can’t even say that a General might have been slightly mistaken and those are America hatin’ liberal, defeatocrats. You just keep your pie-holes shut while we say whatever we damn well want to.

I do want to repeat Luckoduh’s point about the great sacrifice that Rush makes in allowing certain soldiers access to his websites and sending them free newsletters. I’m sure Rush would have liked to have the same thing when he was neck high in the rice paddies of ‘Nam, exercising to keep his masculine physique in tack and planning his future as a anti-drug counselor.

So you libs can keep your mouths occupied by eating a few dozen doughnuts and fistfulls of Oxycotins or whatever it is that you libs do while Rush and the rest of the right wing continue to expose those who fall short of being a real American whether in uniform or not.

RWNJIFG

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

RW (the original)4:56

Most hospitals have staff that do nothing but advise patients (paying and non-paying) on steps to be taken when leaving the hospital and needing more care. I imagine they also know what doctors might work pro bono.

There is a Catholic Hospital in Atlanta that takes “last stage” cancer patients. If the patients can’t pay, I think they take them anyway. They are always filled to capacity.

Of course, we all know about the Ronald McDonald House and places like that. Like you said, they are out there. We don’t always hear about the good things that are being done to help patients whatever their financial status.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Thanks, and I’m sure you know more of these things than I do.

I think the reason we don’t hear about them is because the left and their minions in the media want a government takeover of every aspect of our lives so they’re not about to admit that there’s a better way.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Yikes! That toilet is back. Hand over the bong, getalife.

By getalife

October 1, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

RW,

Nope, you are still hallucinating.

By Left Wing Nutroot In Full Foam

October 1, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

It’s no fun being a flaming pinko anymore.

I became a koward a long time ago in the heady days of liberalism. Back then we dodged the draft, burnt down college campuses, had sex in the street like common barnyard animals, it was great!

And the drugs! Tune in, turn on, uh, I forgot, my mind is all shot out.

Then we got a hold of the power of government and started shoving our perversions down everybody’s throat. We taught your little boy in school how to pick up another man in the airport restroom and if he ever felt weird and wanted to have sex with a woman, then we showed him how to get his sex changed and become a lesbian.

We were unstoppable, we paraded up and down the street, if we didn’t like the way that American people voted then we got some unelected judges to overstep their boundary and make our sicknesses into “law.”

But imagine my surprise, I was sitting around one day eating Oxycontins with my gay boyfriend that I met in the airport bathroom, we were exercising our ACLU constitutional right to email lewd messages to underage boys, and whammo, here’s a bunch of democrat pinkos denouncing the very same things we had all fought so hard for.

A lib against drug use?

Pinkos hounding homosexuals at every turn?

What are we supposed to do, go to Church?

Duh.

By Left Wing Nutroot In Full Foam

October 1, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Oh, and by the way, I support the troops too.

Those adorable little baby killers.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 1, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Duh,

I noticed that you have a new excuse for our GOP leaders who get caught soliciting sex in bathrooms and/or from children. The libs made me do it!!

That’s perfect, Duh. You know we always need a ready made excuse for just about everything and you’ve come up with a great one for Larry Craig. The liberals in the Wyoming Public Schools taught him to be gay. Its not his fault. He didn’t want to be crawling around a nasty public bathroom floors felleting everything in sight, he was forced to do it by liberals.

Rush, why’d you get addicted to pain killers?

“liberals”

Bush, why haven’t you caught Osama?

“Liberals”

Mr. Foley, why do you like to have sex with kids?

“Liberals”

Mr. Cheney, why did you dodge the draft 6 times?

“Liberals”

Mr. Cheney, Mr. Bush, Mr. Wolfowitz, Mr. Everyone at Fox News, Mr. Luckoduh, why were you wrong about every last thing you said about Iraq before the invasion?

“Liberals”

Wingers en masse, what is the solution to the social welfare state?

“Personal responsibility.”

RWNJIFG

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 1, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Question,

Since Rush is always right and since he says that soldiers who don’t support the war are “phony soldiers” does it not then follow that Americans who don’t support the war are “phony Americans?”

I think so and I think Congress should pass a resolution condemning the American people for their un-Americanism.

RWNJIFG

By Left Wing Nutroot In Full Foam

October 1, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

Yes, we taught the toddlers in school how to be homosexuals, we turned your TV set into an oozing scum bucket, we perverted the Supreme Court so that they did Congress’s, the State’s and the People’s job of making our depravity into law, we created the ACLU to attack those who threaten the free speech rights of strip shows within 100 feet of a church but don’t protect political speech, we advertise our sexual desires on gigantic billboards where every child driving by can wonder why we want them to turn off on exit 67 so bad, yes, we did all these things so people wouldn’t be tempted by it, no, we wanted them to think it was evil and make them all worship Jesus on their knees.

How silly of you to think we could corrupt all of society and make it sick, sick, sick.

Duh.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

October 1, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Lefty,

That’s why we need to merge Church with State. Its worked great in the past and we’d be assured that we’d be moral. We all know that those close to the Church never ever have sex with kids, ever.

If there is one thing that proves how powerful Church can be it is the fact that those who watch TV molest kids while memebrs of the cloth don’t.

This is why we must put the Church in charge. It is for the children.

Duh, I invite you to send your kids to live at the Vatican for the next two months to show what a great influence the Church can be.

The after that they can go stay with Rev. Haggard and Jimmy Swaggert.

Meanwhile, the libs kids can be molested by some jackazz who watched too many “Who’s the Boss” episodes.

RWNJIFG

By Writer's block

October 1, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Rush didn’t say “phony soldiers”, sirs, he said “horny soldiers”. Let me tell you, misters, our young troops are horny, and they love their women.

There are no phony soldiers. A soldier is an american who goes to work and dies because fanatics value sand more than souls.

A soldier is any american who died on 911. Dont you think that the population of Hiroshima were soldiers?

Think first, then blog. You’ll thank yourself.

Insight is a gift. Learn to receive.

By Duh Child Of An Angry Left Wing Nutroot

October 1, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

I was watching TV with my daddy and his boyfriend the other night, it was “Que-er Eye For the Gay Guy” I believe and they started groping each other and then they told me I had to go to bed.

I got up later for a drink of water and there was this breathless reporter with a “breaking news” story on PMSNBC about some Republican guy getting caught with another man, and my daddy and his friend were calling the Republican guy a f=ag and a sicko.

The next day we went to the airport to spit on the soldiers coming home and call them baby killers, and I remembered how daddy told me that we support the troops more than those Rush Limbaugh people do, so I got up a real good floogie and put it right on some young soldiers cheek. I told that baby killer that we support them with all of our hearts.

My favorite bedtime story is the one, when I stay at mommy’s house, where she tells me how she didn’t have enough money to get an abortion and how it would have been better if she did cause the United States is evil! and does great harm to the environemt! and kills terrorists!, I mean, freedom fighters, and then she tells me what awful people we are.

Oh well, I got to go to school tomorrow, we’re learning what a great president Bill Klintoon was and how much he respected women.

Goodnight!

By Bosch

October 1, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

RW, Doesn’t sound like “programs a plenty” to me.

Foundations deal with diseases by providing funds for research, not with helping individuals battling a disease and crippling them financially. Churches may help someone in their congregation by providing food for their family, but, in most cases, could never afford to pay their bills outright.

Sure Bell South, a multi-billion dollar company can build their business model however they like. That’s the American corporation way, but there are also people like my mother, a multi-thousand dollar company who choose to treat their employees with respect and do what is morally right.

By AmVet

October 1, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Mike Luckovich,

Thank you sincerely for providing this forum.

Though your creations are, more often than not, a lightening rod for controversy, you must know that my self and surely countless other Americans, find your humorous, ironic and sometimes acerbic voice an uplifting and empowering one.

Your work and the tradition of those great Americans that preceded you represent the very BEST of us as a people. Our ability to mock ourselves and take each other for respected fools is one of the very greatest things that makes us Americans who we are.

Yes, we struggle mightily with the issues and topics of our age, and like a gigantic dysfunctional family we argue and fight. Sometimes bitterly.

But we all know that E Pluribus Unum is who are. Who we really are - and who we will always be.

For better and worse.

By Dusty

October 1, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

RW the original

bosch is so outdated. I have two sons working for AT&T, one formerly worked for Bell South. bosch doesn’t even seem to know that Bell South is now At&T. My sons have never mentioned any contract workers and they both have office jobs, electronics and accounting. If there have been any contract workers around they have never mentioned any. Both have health insurance which they pay a generous part but not out of sight. I have heard of a few former Bell South people being transferred to AT&T jobs when a vacancy occured. I get tired of hearing from people who know nothing of what they are so sure about.

By RW-(the original)

October 1, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

The reason it doesn’t sound like programs aplenty to you is because you don’t believe that anybody but government can be helpful.

Even the “evil” big pharma gives out millions of dollars in free drugs to people that can’t afford them. These foundations you claim only do research but don’t help anybody is just pure unadulterated ignorance on your part.

Dusty,

The field installation and repair people at a lot of companies have a great deal of contract work going on. I really don’t think that’s the case with AT&T so much, but they do use contractors for outside plant cabling and things like that.

getalife,

It says Sam’s Club up there now, can I have my bong back now?