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By Mad As Zell
September 25, 2007 7:14 AM | Link to this
You know, I change my mind. I think that Iranian “President” Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should be escorted on a visit to Ground Zero…the way Jimmy Hoffa is “visiting” Giants Stadium.
By Mad As Zell
September 25, 2007 7:16 AM | Link to this
You know, I change my mind. I think that Iranian “President” Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should be escorted on a visit to Ground Zero…the way Jimmy Hoffa is “visiting” Giants Stadium.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Urinal Constitution, in cooperation with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, is pleased to bring this message from our blessed leader:
{{{{Iranian president expresses doubts on 9/11, Holocaust-Urinal}}}}
So do we! We have so much in common with this “wonderful” man!
{{{{Anti-Semites hated the Jews when they had nothing, and now they hate the Jews because of the claim that they have everything. No matter what the reason and even if it can’t be called a reason, it becomes reason enough to hate a Jew.}}}}
{{{{By getalife September 24, 2007 5:11 PM That speech probably stopped war with Iran.}}}}
{{{{To a question about persecution of gays, Ahmadinejad responded: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country.”}}}}
A Jew and a homosexual hater, greeted with applause within the heart of the American elite ruling class.
Perfect.
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{{{{After suffering through Bollinger’s harrumph, the first thing Ahmadinejad did was ask that God hasten the return of the Mahdi, the “hidden imam” who disappeared centuries ago.}}}}
Imagine for a moment if this had been George W Bush saying that he was ushering in the second coming of Christ.
Geezus, you think he would be applauded like this POS was? The pinkos would be rioting in the streets.
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{{{{And none of these facts precludes the useful idiots of academia from giving the face of that regime a forum to mock science, mock history and mock the very idea of a world in which these same coddled, cosseted children of Columbia are free to applaud he who would enslave or kill them all.}}}}
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this
FCC fines Comcast $4,000 for airing ‘fake news’ reports
HEY FCC
CAN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THESE GUYS NEXT????
In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.
By Mrs. Godzilla
September 25, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
One of my favorite “Newtisms”
“If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don’t have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they’re relatively rare. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn’t matter, you know. These things are very real. On the other hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may be again dramatically better than a male who gets very, very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”
— Adjunct Professor Newt Gingrich, Reinhardt College, January 7, 1995, “Renewing American Civilization.”
If the GOP is pinning their hopes on this clown…..it’s going to be a great 08!
By Mrs. Godzilla
September 25, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
There is just sooooo much out there on Newt!
The most serious, systematic revolutionary of modern times.” Newt Gingrich on Newt Gingrich.
“We must expect the Soviet system to survive for a very long time. There will be Soviet labor camps and Soviet torture chambers well into our grandchildren’s lives.” Example of New Gingrich’s prophetic grasp of the future.
“Kill jobs and lead to a recession, force people off of work and onto unemployment and will actually increase the deficit.” Gingrich again waxing prophetic regarding President Clinton’s 1993 budget bill. Gosh, how wrong can a person be?” Newt Gingrich
By Paul
September 25, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla
I agree. There is no difference in the “combat experience” between the Army, Marines, AF and Navy. Furthermore, in each of those situations that aren’t different, there is absolutely no inherent difference in the manner in which the median performance or capabilities of women and men differ.
Research data bears this out. Just ask Harvard ex-President Lawrence Summers.
Yup, the ‘08 policy debates are going to rise to an entirely new level. LOLOL!
By luckovichisaheadcase
September 25, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
One could say the same thing about Hitlery. She is just as divisive as Newt. The trouble is, Newt really scares the devil out of you liberals because he is something that you aspire to be - SMART! Hitlery is just a Neo-Marxist retread from the sixties with all of the originality of thinking of a Trapist monk!
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
{{{{[Hunter: I Will Try To ‘Cut Off Funds To Columbia University’ Because Of Ahmadinejad Speech
Glenn Greenwald asked:……….. Is there anyone who fails to see how dangerous and improper this is — not to mention unconstitutional — that government officials threaten and punish universities for hosting speakers whom the officials dislike
Even President Bush doesn’t think Columbia should be punished for hosting Ahmadinejad, telling Fox News today that “I guess it’s okay with me” and that America is “confident enough to let a person express his views.” }}}}}}}
Now that the “ad” smokescreen is about over……
Talk about Ahmadinejad! Don’t talk about Iraq!
By Mrs. Godzilla
September 25, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
More from Newt…
“I have enormous personal ambition. I want to shift the entire planet. And I’m doing it. I am now a famous person. I represent real power.” Newt Gingrich
“Gingrich - Primary mission, Advocate of civilization, Definer of civilization, Teacher of the rules of civilization, Leader of the civilizing forces.” Newt Gingrich on Newt Gingrich.
By Shawny
September 25, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
This is a little entertaining… Be careful what you wish for. You might get it, and you might not like the results.
I suspect, baggage or not, that Newt could do in the Clintons one more time.
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
YES— Run, Newt, Run!!!
It will be the best fun if Newt gets his admirers such as Andy-DUH to start vigorously raising the MILLIONS of $$$ it will take to run these days… Looking Forward to ‘08!
By Mad As Zell
September 25, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
Oh and by the way… Moonbats: don’t forget to support the HITLERY CLINTON /BORAT OSAMA ticket for the White House in 2008. Hitlery and Borat Osama have even been fully endorsed by your favorite anti-American left-wing communist murderous totalitarian facist dictator… No not that one silly! Your other favorite anti-American left-wing communist murderous totalitarian facist dictator…No not that one either and not that either, this one silly…
“A Hillary and Obama ticket is unbeatable in 2008” —Murderous anti-American Cuban Thug Dictator Fidel Castro
And there you have it…HITLERY CLINTON and BORAT OSAMA fully endorsed by FIDEL CASTRO.
Hmmm…Food for thought
It’s official, 10 out of every 10 anti-American communist left-wing murderous totalitarian facist thug dictators prefer your Brand X high tax, big-brother and big-sister big government anti-American Democrap Party Nominee over your strong on National Security, low taxes and limited government Republican Nominee.
So in 2008 vote for HITLERY CLINTON and BORAT OSAMA because 10,000 left-wing anti-American communist psychotic murderous facist totalitarian dictators CAN’T BE WRONG.
By Mrs. Godzilla
September 25, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this
More on Newt
“Georgia Peach of **
“Thirty years of hedonism, liberals have driven god out of the public forum, and it is time we put him back in.” Newt Gingrich.
I came across an old Gingrich campaign ad on the net the other day. Newt won election to the House in 1978 running against Virginia Shapard, a married mother of two. His ad ran, “Newt will take his family to Washington and keep them together; Virginia will go to Washington and leave her husband and children in the care of a nanny!” What did Newt do a few months later after he had won? He did not take his family to Washington, rather, he surprised his wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital recovering from a cancer operation, and did not support her or his children with a nanny or any damn thing. In fact, his church had to support his family while he was busy porking bimbos inside the Beltway. All while he ran his political campaigns on the theme of family values. Newt Gingrich is a peach of human **. “
By Mrs. Godzilla
September 25, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this
OK, Last one…..I have a bust day
But this target is to easy!!!
““Newt Gingrich is a draft-dodging, dope-smoking, wife-divorcing, deadbeat-dad, which I assure you, meets all the standards of accuracy set by Rush Limbaugh.” Molly Ivins.
There is no doubt who the two most powerful men in America were in 1995. Sadly, it was the ethically challenged Mr. Gingrich and the flatulent propagandist Mr. Limbaugh. Bill Clinton was been reduced to the most powerful man in The World, which no real America gives a hoot in Hell about.
Gingrich not only made Time man of the year but his pal Rush Limbaugh was rated as the eighth most respected man in the World. Which of course Rush let us all know every day for months on end. What self-proclaimed patriotic Christian Family values guys they are too. Both actively sought deferments from going to a war they promoted. Both divorced twice. Family man Rush who has no children, Newt with children he refused to support when he went off to Washington as a freshman congressman to attack Democrats on issues of family values. And both getting filthy rich from their hypocrisy, their hate rhetoric, and their main concern, hurting those already hurting the most to the benefit of the wealthiest. Real American role models.
In a Frontline report on Gingrich, I found only two new points of interest. When he went out for football in high school, the equipment manager could not find a helmet big enough for his oversized head in town or in the conference or in the entire state of Pennsylvania! They finally found one in Illinois. Secondly was a telling quote by one of his 1976 campaign managers regarding his sexcapades with campaign workers while he was married,
“I didn’t say anything at the time because there were just so many of them and I didn’t think any of it serious.”
Y’all have fun today!
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
Mrs. G— yes, there is much to “love” about Newt… how about this beauty:
(Newt Gingrich, speaking at CPAC) blamed the residents of New Orleans’ 9th Ward for a “failure of citizenship,” by being “so uneducated and so unprepared, they literally couldn’t get out of the way of a hurricane.”
Just one example of how bad of an American prez he would be, with such hatred for its poorer citizens…
By Mrs. Godzilla
September 25, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
Major Typo…..
“Bust Day” (at my age that could be a LONG one)
should be busy day!
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
{{I suspect, baggage or not, that Newt could do in the Clintons one more time.}}
ROFLMAO! Always trying to rewrite history, are you Shawny???
By OnceAndForAll
September 25, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
RUN NEWT RUN! PUHLEEEEEZE RUN!! Newt will get about 30% of the vote. Please Newt, do something that stupid so we can dispose of you and what is left of the Republican party once and for all and in one fell swoop. What a dumbazz move it will be for you right wing lunatics to nominate Newt! LMAO!
By Paul
September 25, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
Shawny
I rather hope not. I don’t think there’s anyone out there whose current personna is so far different than what he/she was like during their time of gov’t service.
But Newt does illustrate something else - his method of “leadership” was recognized as effective by his Democratic opponents (same with DeLay) - who, when they came to power, promptly adopted the same tactics. You’d think an 11 percent approval rating would be a clue the American voters are getting pretty sick of it.
Possibly this demonstrates the power of the party activists - how a group that’s a bit more hardened in their positions are so crucial to appease to win the nomination, and how they’ll search out a candidate to fit their views? Actually, that kinda bodes well for the current Rep candidates in the general election.
Goldie
G’morning. I returned late yesterday, saw your 3:30. I did respond - I think you’d left. It sounded as if you may not have been aware of the latest announcements by the NY Times over their (their words) improper conduct with the MoveOn ad.
By AmVet
September 25, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
I’m not sure which was more humorous.
Watching that look on what’s his name’s face when Lee Bollinger was verbally b!tch slapping the living hell out of him or the right wing nutjobs blowing a gasket over him being there.
Especially enjoyed mad as a march hare’s impotent rage at not being able to round him up and execute him like the Brown Shirts.
Birds of a feather, separated slightly by their tribal membership.
BTW, ML, the cartoon is not only funny it is SO true as NO ONE surpasses Newt in exemplifying the comedic failure of neo-conservative ideology.
Yes, our beloved Nutty Newt is a walking talking caricature and the GOP slate, though already full of clowns, has room for Bozo himself, doesn’t it?
By Mad As Zell
September 25, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
Hitlery Clinton= ruthless power-hungry sociopath political carpetbagger who will stop at nothing to get to the Oval Office.
Borat Osama= psychopath islamafacist sleeper cell terrorist educated in muslim-extremist madrasas as a child in Indonesia who poses as a popular left-wing socialist pacifist neophyte politician from Illinois
By Explaining Wooten
September 25, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
The expressions on the donors face in the cartoon are hilarious. I needed that laugh, Mr. Luckovich, and I thank you, my father thanks you, (who is home from the hospital!), and my mother thanks you.
But it’s to laugh, folks. aw, I could tell you alot of things, about how we’re gonna fix things in this town, why, we’re gonna open up the old mill, isn’t that right, @@? (“Yes, sir!”), and the quarry too, isn’t that right, Dusty? (“Yes, sir”), but you know what, it’s about people, just plain folks like me and you, and we’re gonna do it all together…….
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
””“” his method of “leadership” was recognized as effective by his Democratic opponents (same with DeLay)”“”“”“
can’t seem to find anything to back that up….can you please show us what makes you think that?
By georgia 74
September 25, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
Why are you Wing-nut Repubs offended by A’s speech, oh that’s right most of you guys are gay.
By Anonymous
September 25, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
Fantastically funny cartoon. Newt running for president—further splitting the Right by siphoning off their increasingly-desperate extremes who are unhappy with sane candidates—would be doing the Dems AND the cartoonists of the country a huge favor.
And it would be side-splittingly funny to watch the neoconservative implosion sped up to Keystone-Kops tempo. Run, Newtie, run!
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
{{over your strong on National Security, low taxes and limited government Republican Nominee.}}
Madman @ 8:28— where exactly is that nominee that you describe? Certainly not here in America! The Repugnant Party is being led by angry old white men like you who are always INSULTING the American voters!
The Repug Party is done for because of its “Vacuum of Values” these days…
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Newt is a perfect example of the typical southern white male…only a lot smarter.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Again, Mrs. G, you’re my hero.
Yes, the ADD American populace has totally forgot about the Newtisms. Hell, even I myself, think that Newt isn’t all THAT bad considering the turn towards fascism that we have now. I told the other Bosch years and years ago that one day, the American populace would totally forget all the ethics violations and Newt would run for President. It seems my prediction may be coming true.
But I really love this cartoon. And I certainly agree with Goldie, YES, PLEASE RUN!!!!!
This cartoon reminds me of when Oral Roberts said years ago, that if he didn’t raise $30 million, that Jesus would call him home to heaven - does anyone know? Is he home in heaven yet?
On a side note, those like Shawny and Mr. Headcase who use the euphemism “Hitlery” to describe Hillary Clinton, I have a question:
Okay, you think Hillary is a Nazi? Please explain. I thought you wingnuts considered her a Socialist, which is totally different. I’m confused. Can you please clarify?
By Paul
September 25, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
By Hey Paul
That’s my opinion. Gingrich/DeLay were pretty effective (not “good” but “effective”) in maintaining Party discipline in the Congress and engineering/aiding some pretty vicious personal attacks - just look at the Lewinsky thing, the freewheeling special prosecutor thing (“hey, I’ve spent millions and months - can’t make a case on the law, maybe I can get someone to lie under oath about something?”) - the redistricting in the states to ensure a majority in Congress.
So now, I see, much of the same from the majority party. An “us or them” mentality. No give on anything. Same use of investigations, personal attacks, emphasis on private lives.
As I said, just my impressions.
By Obcess Much???
September 25, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
This guy needs to be on somebodies watch list!
Hitlery Clinton= ruthless power-hungry sociopath political carpetbagger who will stop at nothing to get to the Oval Office.
Borat Osama= psychopath islamafacist sleeper cell terrorist educated in muslim-extremist madrasas as a child in Indonesia who poses as a popular left-wing socialist pacifist neophyte politician from Illinois”“”
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
As much as we Americans hate a fascist dictator such as Mahmoud ImANutJob, what is the likelihood that our own prez would EVER face a crowd of citizens who do not support his policies and attempt to answer any of their questions???
When has Bush ever faced any crowds of American citizens that have not been hand-picked beforehand to be part of his photo-propaganda ops???
By Anonymous
September 25, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
If “Mad as Zell” isn’t the same old TFTT/DullAndy/TheAJCDiscriminatesAgainstLunatics, he’s doing a great impression.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Urinal Constitution, in partnership with our sister “news” outlet Islamic Republic “News” Agency, is pleased to offer the following propa, er, message:
{{{{Despite entire US media objections, negative propagation and hue and cry in recent days over IRI President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s scheduled address at Colombia University, he gave his lecture and answered students questions here on Monday afternoon. On second day of his entry in New York, and ((((((amid standing ovation of the audience))))))) that had attended the hall where the Iranian President was to give his lecture as of early hours of the day, Ahmadinejad said that Iran is not going to attack any country in the world.}}}}
Not with the 82nd Airborne stationed on your border you’re not.
And what about the enemy propaganda value, “students” in America cheering on a Fascist who imposes Sharia law on his citizen, including stoning of rape victims and homosexuals.
If a liberal wasn’t such a sorry POS and had any glimmer of intelligence, then they would realize what utter jack as-ses and useful idiots they have become.
But since they are mired in ignorance, they remain blissfully clueless.
Speaking of which:
{{{{By georgia 74 September 25, 2007 8:52 AM Why are you Wing-nut Repubs offended by A’s speech, oh that’s right most of you guys are gay.}}}}
I guess there must be something wrong with being gay.
Duh.
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
{{I’m confused. Can you please clarify?}}
Lots o’ luck, Bosch, with getting any clarification for your confusion. Hitler is the standard for right-wing nut-jobbery and therefore has no resemblance at all to Hillary. But won’t that be a very fun campaign for ‘08, to get Hillary running up against Newt???
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
Obcess Much? Yes, I agree.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Bosch
I once saw Mike Peters, who does Mother Goose and Grimm, as well as editorial cartoons, on tv - before the 1996 election. He was ask who he was going to vote for. He responded that’s the dilemma of every editorial cartoonist - do you base it on who you’d like to see as President, or do you vote for the guy who’s gonna give you soooo much material and make your life soooo easy for the next four years?
I think Luckovich nailed it with this one.
On that cutesy name stuff - I think that’s an element that got MoveOn into such trouble. Many on that end of the spectrum regularly refer to people by little plays on names - lots of rhyming in a perjorative way. So they were in that same mindset when they got to Gen Petraeus - and for a political group, they failed miserably in seeing where that could likely lead them. Take what’s normal in a subgroup, apply it to the general population, it may not be viewed in the same positive light.
Too bad the Right’s emulating the Left over this. Rather the same thing as my Newt/Delay comments earlier.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Goldie, I almost posted the same thing - Hillary Clinton v. Newt Gingrich? Wonders never cease. Maybe she’ll b!tch slap him for messing with her man!
By Mad As Zell
September 25, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
Bosch: Only a Communist would get offended about being called a Nazi. “Don’t call me Hitler, my name is Stalin and don’t you forget it” Who cares about the difference between Nazi psychos and Commie psychos? Both were paranoid delusional psychos who responsible for the murder of millions. So I called a Stalinist a Hitler, SO WHAT! Cry me a politically correct river of crocodile tears.
By AmVet
September 25, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
“Vacuum of Values”!
LMAO Goldie! You go girl!
Off to go pay for the war, etc… but wanted to let my neo-con friends know how much it restores my faith in this country to read what so many here think about your ideas and what you mistakenly believe is ethical “leadership” and governance.
Keep up the good work all, as the writing IS on the wall!
I may be back later in the day to read more of the ongoing debate about Newt, etc…
Til then, happy blogging!
By Explaining Wooten
September 25, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
If Moveon wrote 4 Lincoln: General Grant depants us
I dont trust the democratic machine to win this election. They’ll blow it.
I’d rather have the Swiftboaters writing the ads for the democrats than Moveon. It’s like Getalife. He puports to write for the left, but he does it in a moveon fashion so that his net effect is to help the Right. I think he’s a turbo-wanking double-crosser, who only pretends to be liberal, but writes to make the left look bad.
I would vote Republican based on Getalife’s act alone. Throw in Moveon, and I’m as redstate as they get.
It takes a rare talent to write copy for a campaign. You have to juggle so many balls in the air…..now I get it, Getalife is gay.
Nevermind.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
Paul, I could see where the candidate who is running would be important for cartoonists like that. Kind of like job security in a way.
I really like this cartoon.
About the name thing - now I’m not approving of MoveOn’s ad so much, but their name at least made sense for their ideology. MoveOn and most ultra-libs think that Petraeus is Bush’s “yes” man - pawn, so their line of thinking is that he did betray the American population because a majority of the population want this war to end.
On the other hand, the “Hitlery” euphemesism, it makes no sense, even for their ultra-right wing ideology. Now, the neo-Nazi party in Germany today is considered the ultra-right wing party, but comparing Hillary to Hitler? Well, that’s just silly and does not match. The wingnuts need to get it straight. Is she a Nazi or a Socialist? You just simply can’t be both!
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Do you rightwing-nut-hacks here know that your own Oxycontin Limbaugh started the “Betray us” name-playing before MoveON ever used the name?
Summary: Rush Limbaugh has called the MoveOn.org “General Petraeus or General Betray Us?” advertisement “contemptible” and “indecent,” but months earlier, on his radio show, he told his audience that he had a new name for Senator Chuck Hagel: “Senator Betrayus.” Though Limbaugh has taken exception to accusations that he has attacked the patriotism of his political opponents, the “Senator Betrayus” remark is one of several instances in which Limbaugh has done so.
Where is your fake outrage about Limbaugh’s comments — when are you right-wing hacks going to demand that Congress vote on a resolution to CONDEMN LIMBAUGH??? Why don’t you get outraged about your guy Limbaugh and maybe force him off the public airwaves once and for all???
The silence from the right blowhard hacks is deafening…
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
””“On that cutesy name stuff - I think that’s an element that got MoveOn into such trouble. Many on that end of the spectrum regularly refer to people by little plays on names - lots of rhyming in a perjorative way”“”“
Do you know who first came up with the “Betrayus” label for the General?
By Paul
September 25, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Now someone’ll say Nazis are National Socialists, so she’s both….
I liked what Mr. Hoyt of the NY Times said in his ombudsman article outlining the errors they made with the MoveOn ad:
“For me, two values collided here: the right of free speech — even if it’s abusive speech — and a strong personal revulsion toward the name-calling and personal attacks that now pass for political dialogue, obscuring rather than illuminating important policy issues. For The Times, there is another value: the protection of its brand as a newspaper that sets a high standard for civility. Were I in Jespersen’s shoes, I’d have demanded changes to eliminate “Betray Us,” a particularly low blow when aimed at a soldier.”
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
Mad as Zell, Your argument is juvenile and if you want to be taken seriously, you should come up with a better comeback.
The difference between a Nazi and a Communist are again, VERY different. See, I think you don’t know your political ideologies at all, and just call out names that you think have the most effect.
I know some former Communists (East Germans-not sure they still aren’t Communists technically) some of the nicest folks you’d ever meet.
But, I digress.
So, are you calling ME a Communist or Hillary Clinton? See, you make no sense, at least not to intelligent people.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
By Hey Paul 9:32
I’d have thought that from reading my comments today it’d be obvious that to me it makes no difference who came up with “General Betray Us” first - I believe it may have been MoveOn - but just the “Betray Us” as a play on names (not as a description of action or intent) Goldie just said it was Limbaugh. I do not know.
Some may bristle at such language as applied to a serving general officer but not at an elected official. But that’s a different topic. But the accusation of treason when describing general differences in political views is to me, reprehensible.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
No Paul, National Socialists were a GERMAN ideology and can’t be compared to MODERN AMERICAN political theory.
If you are going to call someone a Nazi today, then you’d better have some evidence to back up that claim, otherwise, you just look vindictive. It’s kind of like calling an African American the n-word.
In TODAY’S world, Socialists and Nazis are total opposite ends of the spectrum - again, if you’re going to use those words, at least use them responsibly.
At least MoveOn can argue their euphemism, people who use the term “Hitlery” can not.
Today, in Germany you have the Christian Democratic Union which Merkel is a member. Do you think that their idea of Christianity is the same as ours? Merkel grew up in East Germany - communist. I think most would be a little surprised if you read the political ideals of the CDU.
By RW-(the original)
September 25, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Actually if you take the textbook definition of a fascist or fascism and match Presidential hopefuls proposals to it you might be surprised at the closest match.
By IN THE NEWS (BUZZ)
September 25, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
{{{A Bush Quirk: Flies in the Oval Office September 23, 2007 09:36 AM ET | Permanent Link
President Bush has a thing about noises. First we learned that he absolutely hates when a cellular phone starts ringing during meetings. Now we’re told that he can’t stand buzzing bugs in the West Wing. Former Press Secretary Tony Snow says that when a little black fly shows up, Bush gets to work “chasing flies around the Oval Office. It drives him crazy when flies get in.” And Bush is so well known as a fly hunter among his White House staff, says Snow, that somebody “made him White House fly swatters.”}}}
By Deperately seeking Morons
September 25, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
My god Bosch sometimes you act like a 12 year old….. “Your argument is juvenile and if you want to be taken seriously, you should come up with a better comeback.”
You are the only one that gives these usual morons the attention they so desperately seek. “Taken seriously,” are you that stupid??????????
Doom will be here soon to give you more of the mental mastur bation you crave here, to relieve your boredom.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
What burgeoning democracy hasn’t had a suicide bomber that kills 16 people at a reconciliation event?
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
{{I’d have thought that from reading my comments today it’d be obvious that to me it makes no difference who came up with “General Betray Us” first}}
Aw, c’mon Paul— where’s your fake outrage about Limbaugh??? Ya know, to really show that you’re not just another right-wing hack here…
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Also, Paul @ 9:33 — are you now suggesting that calling an “elected official” like Bush the name “traitor” — that would now be OK by you and your nut-job friends on the right?
By Explaining Wooten
September 25, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
Bosch, if your credibility is to survive, you better state what YOU think the diff is between nazi and commie.
In 25 words or less, but who’s counting.
I doubt strongly you know the diff. Be careful, we’re all reading, and one slip of the pun will finish you here.
Well?
BTW: The term, “Hitlery” is not the right comparing Hillery to Hitler with any reasoned or nuanced insight. It’s simply that the words look alike, and sound alike and that’s enough for the uberpundits who use that pathetic slur. That’s why it does no harm to her campaign.
It’s like the nerd in highschool who criticizes the quarterback on the football team to the helmet wearers on the short bus, of whom he’s their hero. They think he’s clever. Get it now?
A clever writer could destroy Hillary’s campaign.
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
What you think is obvious.. it is of course your opinion….
For your information that name came from men under his command.
I think allowing a man, General, President or Dictator, to speak un-questioned, shows poor citizenship skills.
And when they are flat out wrong or are misleading in their statements NOW THAT’S REPREHENSIBLE.
(PS Limbaughs’ comment was regarding a sitting US Senator - calling him Senator Betray Us)
By Paul
September 25, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
Bosch 9:35
No? At 9:17 you asked “Is she a Nazi or a Socialist?” and I tossed back a lighthearted “Now someone’ll say Nazis are National Socialists, so she’s both…”
So the Nazis were properly called the “National Socialist German Workers Party.” I was just saying that someone’ll key in on the word “Socialist” and say “See! Hillary’s BOTH!!!!!”
I can just imagine the fallout here if someone wanted to start a political party with the word “Christian” in the name…
N-GA just brought up an interesting point - the meaning of a word as a definition of an ideology or, classical definitions ignored, as an epithet. At least that’s how I interpreted it.
By Mad As Zell (liberalism is DEAD MEAT)
September 25, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
Hey Bosch a.k.a. “Don’t call me Hitler because my name is Stalin”: Hitlery Clinton is a ruthless left-wing eurotrash-style communist femminazi socialist political carpetbagger. There. A little something for every evil.
Bosch is actually offended because I called his “people” paranoid America-hating murderous psycho nazis instead of what they actually are…paranoid America-hating murderous psycho communists?
Bosch and his bosom buddies, Hitlery Clinton and his “peeps” in the former East Germany, or whatever, are paranoid America-hating psycho Stalinists, not Hitlerists as was stated before. Are you happy now Bosch? I’m sorry that I offended you and Stalinists everywhere by confusing with you all with Nazis.
P.S.: If you wanna pst off a commie just call ‘em a nazi, that really gets ‘em heated because Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back and wanted to monoplize the international torture and murderin’ for himself and trust me, Stalin and the Commies really wanted in on that action.
By Hey Mad As Zell
September 25, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
You proud of that name?
Sick-o
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Explaining Wooten, For one thing, many believe that Nazism isn’t a political ideology at all, just the musings of a homicidal maniac - he had to call himself something to be legitimate. Communism, on the other hand, is well, a pretty well-established political philosophy. (42 words there, sorry)
So, it’s simply that the words “look alike”? Oh, well, that makes total sense now (as I roll my eyes).
Paul, Just messing with you, I know what you meant. :-)
Yes, indeed, can you imagine a political party with the word “Christian” in it - somehow I don’t think it would mean the same here as it is in Germany.
RW, I’m not going there. We all know who the true fascists are in this country.
By Truthman
September 25, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Imagine how all the rest of the world leaders at the U.N. must feel today.
Ambassador #1: So, we have one liar this morning, and another this afternoon?
Ambassador #2: Let’s go play golf!
No one, save for the U.S. Ambassador/Bush A$$-kisser, will care one wit what the murder Bush has to say. He has NO CREDIBILITY throughout the world, and very little here at home.
He and Ahmajinedad are made for each other!! Both chest-thumping, truth-denying spoiled little brats playing out their juvenile temper tantrums on the wolrd stage.
I say it’s time for the hook!!
By Paul
September 25, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Goldie 9:41
So many implications in your posts…
I believe the last time I referred to Limbaugh here was after I’d listened to NPR’s weekly news roundup. He’d been a guest and was asked “What’s your purpose, the purpose of your show?” He answered “To attract the largest audience possible and hold them for the longest time possible so I can charge advertisers as much as possible.” Rather the same answer when BOR took Ann Coulter to task and she replied (smiling), “and every time I say the things you object to I receive more bookings for speeches and my book sales go up.”
So I think you can gather why I don’t spend much time thinking about them.
Goldie 9:43
[[Paul @ 9:33 — are you now suggesting that calling an “elected official” like Bush the name “traitor” — that would now be OK…]]
When I said “Some may bristle at such language as applied to a serving general officer but not at an elected official. But that’s a different topic” that was an observation. Not staking out a position. But as you asked, I’d referenced earlier, “a strong personal revulsion toward the name-calling and personal attacks that now pass for political dialogue,…”
Hey Paul 9:44
Questioning as related to accurate, civil discourse is what I was referring to. BTW - namecalling like that by “men under his command” should have resulted in internment at Leavenworth prison. So I have to question it -
Goldie 9:43
[[your nut-job friends on the right?]] (smile…) Actually, as I’ve said in the past, I suspect you’re really one of them. At least on some issues. I’ve brought up education and defense issues before to illustrate, but you never want to come out an play…
:-)
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
PBS: Weapons of US soldiers in Iraq ‘plagued with problems’
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this
Hahaha, Mike broke out his piggy bank.
Hilarious.
“Violent Crime On The Rise, As Cities Decry Federal Fund Cuts”
Wasting 725 million a day on the occupation for oil will see many cuts for Americans.
Just another consequence of w’s disaster. This one may hit home.
Show some respect to your next President Clinton wingnuts. You are being unAmerican and unPatrioitic in a time of war. Why do you hate your country?
Ah, karma.
Bwa.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Yesterday you lied and said President Clinton condemned the Moveon ad.
She voted no but voted yes for the Boxer amendment.
Admit you lied and we will move on.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
September 25, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
Mad as Zell,
And don’t forget that right thinking Americans like George Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush were working with the Nazis and never would have aligned with the Soviets like that commie lib FDR did. If we had our way, we would have joined up with Mein Furher and eradicated the USSR and all other lefties, the Jews, and non-whites.
The only reason that the Nazis didn’t succeed is because we had liberals and commies in charge who picked the wrong people to fight with.
If we keep picking good people like George Bush though there will be a new day for the white Christian race.
We should never forgive the left for aligning with Stalin during WWII.
Pretty soon you’ll see the libs pushing trade with the Commies in China. Oh wait, that’s us….sorry. Never mind.
I guess one man’s commie is another man’s supplier of cheap unregulated labor, huh?
RWNJIFG
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
Author: Bush nominee helped mask FBI’s pre-9/11 failures and kept al Qaeda’s infiltration of US intelligence from view
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
If Ahmadinejad should ever visit Dealy Plaza in Dallas…. “Here comes the visiting presidential motorcade as it turns in front of the sperm depository building, hey, why doesn’t somebody stop that guy on the seventh floor? He’s got a Manlicker-dildo pointing out the window, it appears there’s a french tickler silencer on it. Something has happened on the motorcade route! Brittany spears is getting out of her limo…Oh the humanity.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Mad As Zell - Are you going to challenge me to a duel?
Oh, LOL, I really got your goat didn’t I?
Your 9:53 post reminded me of that skit they used to do on Saturday Night Live where Will Forte was Zell Miller and would portray him as a red-faced, furied, rabid fool. He played the part very true to form.
Classic.
Wait a minute - Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back? I thought Hitler died before Stalin. Oh, thanks for letting me know that.
By Mad As Zell (Liberalism is Road Kill)
September 25, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Oh-oh, looks like we hit a nerve in here. Appears to be a lot of hard-core left-wing Communists in here who are hiding behind a soft brand of socialist liberalism just to come across as kinder and gentler in public which is a waste of time because everyone knows their true motives, sort of like one carpetbaggin’ MR. HITLERY Clinton
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
So the men under his command who nicknamed him “Betray us” should have been given a vacation at Leavenworth.
You’re pretty tough on those guys, but it’s your opinion.
Tell me, don’t make an observation, but stake out a position:
What part of this is not correct?
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
Paul @ 10:06 — maybe when you stop slamming the Dems for “an ad” not paid for by the Dems, and stop making excuses for the Repugs day after day, you’ll be viewed as something other than another hack nut-job here.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
“Pretty soon you’ll see the libs pushing trade with the Commies in China. Oh wait, that’s us….sorry. Never mind.
I guess one man’s commie is another man’s supplier of cheap unregulated labor, huh?”
Oh my Goodness…..RWNJIFG, you are my hero today.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
Stop wanking duh.
sad as hell,
And would you call your party fascists? Corporate wh-ores killing in the name of religion.
Like the Nazis?
Do tell moron.
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
Oh yeah, the cartoon, it was funny. Anytime Luckovich draws his face into a cartoon, it makes me laugh. He finally gets something comical.
What is laughable here is the suggested fact that Newt might run again and liberals would enjoy putting money on the line to help.
Newt is just getting his name in the news again. That’s all. He couldn’t win a potato sack race. Let libs plunk down all the money they care to dispense. That’s just less for Dem candidates.
I wouldn’t put down a lead nickle on a Democratic candidate. They are going to lose the election flat out anyway. I’m not wasting my money.
Goldie @ 8:59
You came up with a good one. “Mamoud ImaNutJob”!! The Times ought to make a whole page ad featuring that one. (Now, Paul, that is prety cutesy, don’t you think?)
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
Bush and the GOP had their opportunity to condemn the tactics of the Swiftboat Liars, but they chose not to do so. They could have condemned Saxby Chambliss’ political ads that attacked Max Cleland, but they chose not to do so. Now they attack MoveOn.org for the same distasteful tactics and attack Democratic pols who had nothing to do with the ads.
While there is little difference now between the two major political parties, the GOP is far and away the party of hypocrisy.
Swiftboat veterans vs MoveOn.org homosexuality corruption family values fiscal responsibilityThe rest of the world no longer looks up to the USA as the beacon of liberty. It is more like the bastion of tyranny.
It will change…..
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
How about Mattel apologizing to China for China poisoning our kids.
Are they commies?
The gop borrowing a trillion from China for their failed occupation.
Are they commies?
The gop free trade with China with no oversight to poison our kids, pets and us.
Are they commies?
Do tell rush zombie.
Geez.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Newt will save your party again Dusty.
He cracks me up and yes the toon is very funny.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Blackburn focused more MoveOn ad than troop deaths. Yesterday on MSNBC’s Tucker Carlson show, Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) repeatedly condemned the recent MoveOn.org ad about Gen. Petraeus. But when host David Shuster asked her for the name of the last soldier from her district killed in Iraq, Blackburn faltered. Schuster informed her of the soldier’s name and added, “When was the last time a New York Times ad ever killed somebody?”
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
Bravo. N-GA. Exactly.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
No more ‘Friedmans’ for Friedman. In May 2006, Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) released a study demonstrating how New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman continually “boiled down the intricacies of the Iraq situation into a make-or-break deadline” lasting “six months.” Atrios soon adopted the “Friedman Unit” to describe perpetual “six monthers.” But on The Colbert Report last night, Friedman himself refused to call for another Friedman, saying “I’m afraid we’ve run out of six months. It’s really time to set a deadline.”
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Giuliani party seeks $9.11 per person
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
Paul,
You are unhinged.
You want to lock up betrayus’s boss Admiral Fallon who called him a chickensh-it. He is a politician that wants to be President. He writes political op eds for w.
Take a break Paul and get control of yourself. Try to be American.
Geez.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
CBS 2 To Expose Security Concerns At Nuclear Plant
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
The Death Penalty is being explored over at wooten: Remember when the foot-fetish murderer got off like OJ because of reasonable gout?
Dont forget that Rush Limbaugh’s grandfather, Charles Lindberg, (who also suffered from gout), supported the Nazis and thought they were real swell. Charles Lindberg and Prescott Bush were very close in those days, and both wanted Heetler unt his frauline Teetler to rule der verld.
THe world has been subject to the cruelties of Hitler via the Bush’s. Hitler wouldn’t have hesitated to invade Iraq.
That’s what Hitler does: invade other countries. That’s why the French landed at Normandy and why the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, man.
For freedom of Hitlerness.
ZEIG…..HEIL! ZEIG….HEIL!
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
You know when I struck a nerve, they start wanking.
Be a man duh, grow up.
Owned.
Bwa.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
getalife 10:11
Good to have you back in form!
What I posted, upon which I based my interpretation, was not based on a web site’s interpretation, or a pundit. In fact, I haven’t heard it mentioned anywhere. But the Meet the Press interview included
“MR. RUSSERT: Is it fair to—(clears throat) excuse me—is it fair to say, then, that this ad was an unhelpful distraction to the real debate about the war, and you wish that MoveOn.org had not taken it?
SEN. CLINTON: Well, when I voted for Senator Boxer’s resolution, that was certainly clear. I do not condone, and I do condemn any effort to impugn the patriotism and the service of anyone who’s worn the uniform of our country. I think it should be across the board because, as you certainly know well, many people who have served with distinction, like Senator Kerry or Senator Cleland, have been the subject of extraordinary attacks. Let’s end this, and let’s focus on what we do to support our troops. I believe the best way to support our troops is to begin to bring them home.
MR. RUSSERT: And MoveOn.org should refrain from similar ads in the future?
SEN. CLINTON: Everyone should, Tim. Everyone should.”
So Hillary said “I do condemn any effort to impugn the patriotism and the service of anyone who’s worn the uniform of our country.” That’s what the MoveOn ad did - impugned General Petraeus.
She also said everyone (I believe “everyone” includes MoveOn?) should refrain from such ads in the future.
As I said, good to have you back in form -
Hey Paul 10:10
Pretty tough? No - just relating the penalties for such talk by a subordinate to a superior under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (here it comes… “can you quote me chapter and verse? I don’t want to research my own assertions…”).
Same penalties apply for military personnel criticizing elected officials. Notice how reserved Gen Petraeus was during his testimony (do ya think maybe the staffers briefed the Senators on this?).
con’t
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
{{Shuster to Rep. Blackburn: “When was the last time a New York Times ad ever killed somebody?”}}
In the News @ 10:32 — I saw that news show on MSNBC last night, and that b!tch-dog Blackburn was hemming and hawing about not knowing about the 18-year-old soldier from her district who was killed… she just wanted to talk about that “outrageous ad” by MoveON!
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
How did you know it was me? Please tell me I didn’t sign off my blog with “muff said” again…..DANG IT!
I’m definitely going to have to stop doing that.
bwa. You’re busted sir wipesalot. I’ve exposed you for the Right Wing Katzenjammer you truly are.
Just get lost. Nobody reads you. You’re a pathetic hack and a unzipped loose ball foul. You stink and young children should not be exposed to you.
Hell, you’re not even there.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Which part of voting no did you not understand?
She voted yes on the Boxer amendment.
Do you know what the Boxer admendment said?
Google it and calm down.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife September 25, 2007 10:24 AM Stop wanking duh.}}}}
al-Gitmo: Um, try telling Polly.
~~~~~
I was waiting for this clown to come back around, but:
{{{{By Duh moderate voice September 24, 2007 7:28 PM Comparing the capacity of Iran to Nazi Germany is an insult to history and commom sense……The threat that Germany posed was through its significant military that was capable of blowing through Europe with relative ease. Iran fought Iraq for 8 years to stalemate and they aren’t much stronger now……The answer isn’t to indimidate or to kill or to threaten.}}}}
How naďve.
In 1938, Germany was weak too, and France could have blown right through them had they chose to answer Hitler’s early aggressions.
It’s a plain, simple fact.
But no, France chose to appease, to make “friends” and be nice with Hitler, allowing him to STRENGTHEN his army such that, in a few short years, it threatened the whole world, which is the same thing you kowards want to risk with Iran.
An Iranian nuclear weapon, you know, the one they talk about everyday?
You, my man, are as dull is the day is long.
{{{{Now there are some here that aren’t for freedom or democracy, like LuckoDuh, and there will always be people in the world who enjoy the safety of an authoritarian regime, like LuckoDuh, but for most of us the only thing we want is opportunity for success and the freedom to fail without interfernce from either Big Brother or the Mommy State.}}}}
Say what?
Everyday that I post on this blog, I voice my desire to see a Middle East free from religious tyranny.
You have to be a blooming idiot not to see that.
Bush and the non insane Republicans are doing everything in their power to give the Iraqis control over their own country, free from the meddling of the likes of Imawhackjob, what do you idiots think the surge is for?
Where do these morons get off?
By getalife with ♥
September 25, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
I know you want to be me but there is only one getalife.
Stop wanking wanker.
Grow up.
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
North GA 10:26
What Swiftboat Liars? Kerry? His credibility was less than others who served on swiftboats. I think most swiftboaters served more than four months in Viet Nam combat without numerous cuts, bandaids and purple hearts to brag about as Kerry did.(And then claimed he “threw his medals away” in protest) But that is old stuff you tried to dig up.
As to Cleland,AGAIN, no one attacked his war injuries or his patriotism It was his decision on government matters that undermined him. The voters did NOT like his politics anymore. Get over it. We vote for whom we think is best suited to serve.
I don’t believe you are so naive as to believe that politics had nothing to do with the MoreOn ad against General Petraeus. Just whom would you say was responsible for the ad if it wasn’t liberal politicians? Republicans?
If you think you live in the “bastion of tyranny”, I hope you will soon be released and depart to the nirvana you are seeking. Adios.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Scene’s getalife wishes he could write: Two towelheads are sitting in adjacent stalls in the Tehran Airport Mensroom during Amadinejad’s speech about no homosexuals in Iran. One towelhead lights his shoe and starts tapping the lit shoe. The other towelhead takes off his shirt and starts circling his grenade-pin pierced nipples (grenades attached) with his wet fingers……
By getalife ‡
September 25, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
I did duh at wingnut wooten’s.
He wants to be me because he is jealous.
Bwa.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Hey Paul 10:10 Con’t
As far as the ad, I suppose this means you want to ignore the NY Times assessment and instead to into a point by point of various points of the content. Typical, so typical. Problem with so many of those “sources” - just as many accuse the White House of “cherry picking” intel, so others can accuse such groups as “cherry picking” items from a report to fit their agenda. As I wrote the other day, when Gen Petraeus wrote what he did several years ago, he was in charge of training Iraquis. He started with nothing; therefore, anything done can be called “improvement.” In that context, to fault him years later for saying there was improvement is done solely to score political points.
Goldie 10:21
LOLOL! And I’ve “made excuses for Reps” when?!!? Although you just may refer to understanding a policy as “making excuses.”
Dusty 10:24
Yeah, I have to agree. Goldie was pretty cute on that.
getalife 10:38
Superiors can call subordinates pretty much anything they want. Unless it’s during basic (big changes under our last Pres) - basic instructors got relieved for “making the recruits feel uncomfortable.”
getalife 10:52
Hillary said she voted for the Boxer Amendment.
After the vote, Hillary said “I do condemn any effort to impugn the patriotism and the service of anyone who’s worn the uniform of our country”
Rather reiterates what the Boxer Amendment says, doesn’t it?
Most would say the Moveon ad impugned Gen Petraeus.
Many have said Hillary wouldn’t say she found a problem with the MoveOn ad. I think these statement illustrate that in politician-speak she does.
So I don’t see a problem there and really don’t get what you’re worked up about.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
Paul,
dusty just proved that bashing the military is an outrage only if the left does it. The Boxer resolution was about that.
Double standard hypocrites makes you look like idiots.
Move on.
Bwa.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
getalife 11:07
Okay, I don’t know if it’s you or not I’ve been responding to. You have so many fans who love to use your name.
I’m going to have to shortly leave for a few days - the trip I mentioned last week - so have a good time, all.
By Over There Redux
September 25, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - Violent crime rose nearly 2 percent last year, the FBI reported Monday in nationwide data that show a slightly higher increase than expected.
The number of murders in 2006 increased by 1.8 percent over the previous year. In big cities of over 1 million people, however, murder jumped by 6.8 percent.
Now even we lowly commoners can see the pure unmitigated genius in Big Brother Bush’s grand world scheme.
Cut spending and ignore domestic problems until the streets of America are less safe than those in Baghdad, then no terrorist will want to fight us over here when they can fight us over there where it’s safer.
Bush da man. Go, Big Bro, go! Keep on keepin us safe, we loves ya baby.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
The new outrage for you Paul is the freedom of speech at Columbia. Join dusty and the other wingnuts to attack this freedom which you hate so you will feel better.
Geez.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
Dusty listen to me and listen good, my fine friend: getalife, who blogs incongnito for the right, is alot like moveon who may as well be spinning for the right because they say the wrong things in such an incompetent manner that even little old ladies in peoria know what nudniks they are.
Moveon is a defacto republican spin machine. ditto sir wipes’n’licks. Thank God you, dusty, blog for the right, because with uberpundits like you, who needs the left leaning media at all? Yes, you’re net effect is positive for the left. You’re just too big of a dope to know it. Love you, girlfriend.
The internet has made pundits of us all. We are all on the same learning curve. Mostly we do more harm for our side than good, because we are new, and untested, and most of us have no talent for punditry at all.
Spin, little minds.
‘muff said………..D’OH!
By Paul
September 25, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
getalife 11:23
You’re quick on the responses before I can even get this thing shut down.
Are you now assigning topics? Well, okay, if you want me to take the “con” position I can probably construct some passable arguments. Maybe next time you’ll let me take the “yea” position?
By getalife
September 25, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Yes, the newest excuse for the destruction of our country will be lack of funding.
It was wasted in Iraq for Iraqi welfare and corruption.
w will try to steal Social Security again.
This is a real outrage.
By getalife…
September 25, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Paul,
You always take the wingnut posistion because you are RW.
Admit you were wrong and Clinton voted no.
It will not kill you.
Geez.
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
I have a couple of minutes to waste on you so….
Only 1 person involved with the Swiftboat liars ever served with Kerry, and he waffled on the “facts” more than Mitt Romney.
His citations were approved and awarded by senior officers, so they must be liars too? His wounds were attested to by fellow combatants.
These pathetic ex-soldiers were politically-motivated right-wing liars (many working in the petro-chemical industry) trying to get back at Kerry for his opposition to the war. But it would seem that you not only condone, but approve of the personal attacks on Kerry, Cleland and other victims of such attacks. Like I said in an earlier post, you wing-nuts are the personification of hypocrisy.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
{{{{By Over Duh Reduh September 25, 2007 11:21 AM WASHINGTON - Violent crime rose nearly 2 percent last year, the FBI reported Monday in nationwide data that show a slightly higher increase than expected. In big cities of over 1 million people, however, murder jumped by 6.8 percent.}}}}
Duh, Spammie, duh.
Big cities are run by democrats, which means, for you duhlards, that democrats are responsible for policing and enforcement, duh.
If crime went up 2% NATIONWIDE, and you factor in an increase of 6.8% for big cities, that means crime actually went down in the Republican controlled areas, duh.
Freaking duh.
Babbling duh idiot.
Thanks for pointing out our success and your failure, duh, moron.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
getalife 11:35
I’m RW? Can I be N-GA instead? He has a better wine collection.
Hillary voted “No” on the Boxer Amendment? Well, on to one of my favorite sites, the US Senate official site.
Link: Record of votes on Boxer Amendment
Bottom line, Reps aren’t gonna vote for such an amendment sponsored by Dems - even though I’d wager many of their constituents would say it sounds pretty good, and vice-versa is true for the Dems - especially when the Rep amendment attacks a cash cow.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Watching Webb on C-Span 2 bashing the amendment for another pre-emptive war with Iran.
We are this close to WWIII.
Now that is a real outrage.
By Maude
September 25, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
My, my, such a silly blog. Who are these “LITTLE wee-wee boys” Duh and Dusty and Zell? Tough talkers who seem to grasp nothing of the world around them. Are they a fixture on this blog? So comical they are. Disgusting, yet comical.
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Paul,
Boy can you dance!
Were you a regular on American Bandstand or Soul Train maybe?
Of course the debate is on CONTENT.
I suspect that your “typical, so typical” was meant to be disparaging, but it comes out petulent instead.
Do you admit Bush “cherry picked”?
You avoid the content debate, because you could not win it.
There is, was and ever shall be reason to doubt every word issued from the mouths of every member of the Bush administration and their coterie.
The American people recognize this.
It’s a running joke in this nation.
After all the falderall and fiddle dee dee of the General’s testimony the polls show the American people STILL doubt him.
You may have a different political agenda than MoveOn, put I challenge you to find them ever telling a lie.
By the way, did Guiliani ever pony up more money for his ad? Move On did the honorable thing - did Rudy?
AGAIN PAUL
I CHALLENGE YOU
FIND A LIE FROM MOVE ON.
I double dog dare you!
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Pentagon and Petraeus’ casualty data ‘differ significantly.’ In a report today on the Pentagon’s methods for determining sectarian killings in Iraq, the Washington Post’s Karen DeYoung writes that “apparent contradictions are relatively easy to find in the flood of bar charts and trend lines the military produces.” For instance, the numbers in the Pentagon’s quarterly Iraq report released last week “differ significantly” from those presented to Congress by Gen. David Petraeus
By getalife
September 25, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Look at your link on the yea votes liar. She voted no on the gop bs.
Admit you are wrong and we will move on.
Geez, grow up.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Keith Olbermann has been tracking the Bush Administration’s use of trumped up terror alerts to manipulate the American people for the past two years, but in this latest Nexus of Politics & Terror report on Countdown, it appears the president stooped to a new low by using a bogus terror threat that specifically targeted Capitol Hill to manipulate members of Congress just hours before a crucial vote on the FISA bill last August.
I watched that vote….there were some bizarre comments, that now make sense.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul 11:58
Uh, I thought the “debate” was anger/frustration over a bonehead political move by MoveOn which took the attention off Iraq and let the Reps pummel a major Dem organization (and by extension, the Democratic Party) for calling into question the integrity of a serving four-star general? And only after the Dems realize what a mess MoveOn saddled them with did they try to reframe the discussion back to the original talking points (I base that upon my assessment MoveOn never admitted error - even in light of the NY Times comments - and justified their actions by what they were originally trying to do).
You call it dancing? I call it discussing a topic at a time - or if discussing multiple topics, not intermixing them - and keeping the chronology straight.
You write in absolutist terms “There is, was and ever shall be reason to doubt every word issued from the mouths of every member of the Bush administration and their coterie” then say I wouldn’t be able to find one single example where some member of the administration was not correct? LOL!
As I’ve said before, I view the cherry-picking and representation of intel as coming more from the VP office than from Bush. If you want to get picky. About cherry picking. There is a difference, y’know.
Doubt Gen Petraeus personally? Their opinion of him?
Ask the NY Times about Rudy. They set the standard for those who don’t understand what violates their policy about from their “internal advertising acceptability manual that says, “We do not accept opinion advertisements that are attacks of a personal nature.”” Or what constitutes a standby rate. I believe that’s for the NY Times to adjuticate, not me.
Lie? As when Eli said on the Today Show MoveOn has what, 3.3 million members (probably true) AND they represent ALL Americans opposed to the Iraq War.
Well, they may have the same views. They may align. They may work, at times, for common goals. But “represent” ALL Americans? In the sense Sen Byrd ‘represents’ all Americans who share his views of the Senate’s role? Not “shares?”
If a Rep group had said that I imagine the ultraLeft would call them “liars.” I think it’s more likely sloppy English. Or ego. Take your pick.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
BUSH CUTS FLORIDA EVERGLADES OFF HERITAGE SITE LIST
By getalife
September 25, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Can’t admit you are dead wrong Paul?
Look at your link again, Clinton voted yea all the gop voted no.
Admit you are dead wrong and a hypocrite.
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
As I thought
tango,
two step
avoid the challenge
I’m starting to think the others here are correct.
You are RW.
Maybe even Duh.
Sorry fella, but for all your strained prose, you are just another shill.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Hey, another MoveOner:
{{{{By Maude September 25, 2007 11:54 AM Who are these “LITTLE wee-wee boys”}}}}
Gee, what brilliance.
I am personally awed and honored to have another pinko liberal join the commenting on this blog, another added to the masses of duhllards, babbling idiotically their very own weak minded thoughts, with absolutely no facts or evidence of their positions.
Let me guess Maude, I’m not a real Christian and I’m going to burn in hell, yawn.
And you libs are so smart because your thoughts match perfectly with those found on the Huffington Post and what comes from the mouths of drug addled Hollywood perverts.
Wonderful.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
getalife 12:19
Sure I can admit I was wrong, erred, exercised poor judgment, was misinformed, changed my mind, acted poorly, misunderstood situations or facts and a host of other “things.”
I thought the link went to the Senate’s webpage that said:
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2947 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008) Statement of Purpose: To reaffirm strong support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces and to strongly condemn attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person or organization. Vote Counts: YEAs 50 NAYs 47 Not Voting 3
Alphabetical by Senator Name
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Seems to me most Dems voted “yea” and Reps “Nay.” This isn’t one of those amendments where voting for it means you’re against it, is it?
By Hey Paul
September 25, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Additionally,
this is the best you can do in the way of a lie from MOve On?
{{{As when Eli said on the Today Show MoveOn has what, 3.3 million members (probably true) AND they represent ALL Americans opposed to the Iraq War}}
Read the definition of represent….
You’ll have to do better.
Much Better
By getalife
September 25, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
“I’m not a real Christian and I’m going to burn in hell, yawn”
Um yes duh.
Like Paul, you are liar and a hypocrite who will never admit you are dead wrong.
Intellectual dishonesty but typical wingnut mind set who chose the wrong path. The path of evil, wrong from right. The gop over your country.
Repent!
By Paul
September 25, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul
I sure hope you’re getalife. Not RW? You’ve answered questions when? Rather than ignoring, then posing new ones?
Maybe you just can’t understand an answer, such as in response to “Bush cherry picked” of “I think it was the VP office, rather than saying “Bush?”
Or to your question “Do you know who first said Betrayus” and I responded “who cares? It’s despicable no matter who said it first.” (“No matter who” includes Reps, Right, Neocons, Limbaugh, Hannity, Olbermann , Coulter and all the rest).
My wife’s returned, must get ready to depart on the trip, it’s been fun, thanks.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Paul, I wonder what constitutes being a “member” of MoveOn, is it the email list? If so, I guess I’m a member. Of course they are going to promote themselves on shows like the Today Show, what else are they going to do? Again with the semantics.
They are an ultra-liberal group which to be honest, I’m glad that they are there, but that’s just because well, I’m a liberal and tend to think more like them, but I certainly don’t agree with all their ideas.
We need groups like that to combat the Swiftboat groups in the world.
Personally, I think it’s hilarious to see Republicans outraged over this ad. The tables are turned and they don’t like it so much.
What N-GA posted earlier was so absolutely true in my opinion. They are such hypocrits.
Changing the subject a bit: I watched that video of that rep. from Tennessee and she mentioned how the NY Times subscriptions were low, in a smirky, smart-a*, condescending kind of way, because of their liberalism. Now, I don’t know this for a fact, it’s just a guess, but wouldn’t you think that most newspaper subscriptions are low now because of the Internet? I haven’t read an actual newspaper except on Sundays in years.
By Paul
September 25, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul
One last comment (I hope)
Notice how you went from ignoring any comments about what MoveOn and others said happened and would not admit anything different AFTER the NY Times Ombudsman published his findings, to
swinging the disussion to “My group said this. You PROVE they are wrong”?
As I said, I don’t frequent MoveOn. Any more than I read The New American. Same ilk, IMHO.
So I picked the easiest. You said “any.” “Represent” has many definitions. Just another example of poor wordsmanship from Moveon.
Cheery bye!
getalife 12:32
I take it that means Hillary voted “yea” on Boxer’s Amendment?
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Hey @ 11:58 — oh no! Not the “double-dog dare you”! Hang on to your cubicle chairs, Lucko-bloggers!!!
By Paul
September 25, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Bosch 12:37
I’m never gonna get out of here - but I’m all for groups of all persuasion. Free exchange of ideas and all that. Mag subscriptions are down all over. Big drops. Not just NY Times. So that doesn’t “Prove” anything.
I’m not even sure ANY politician is really “outraged” over anything, any more. Maybe they should be considered in the candidate pool for the Oscars - Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting?
Watch whose email list you’re on. Never know which groups you “belong” to. Or who “represents” you!
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Goldie, If Hey had skipped over to triple dare or triple dog dare you, then we’d have one serious challenge.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Later RW,
I know it is you because you never admit you are dead wrong.
Your debating skills are a fraud like your party.
By Truthman
September 25, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
One lying murderer down at the U.N.
One more to go this afternoon!!
Stupidity loves company!
By bj in ky
September 25, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Maude
Duh’s baseline ideal is to put a gun in someone else’s hands to kill anything he doesn’t understand. His rants against religious tyranny are laughable given his blind fanaticism for all things Bush. He’s intellectually bankrupt, a rank coward who repeatedly insults a generation of Vietnam vets who went to war as proxies for people like him, who have no stomach for the killing he wishes on others. Duh portrays the Betrayus ad as disloyal but has said on this blog that U.S. troops in Vietnam were cowards who “ran screaming from the battlefield.” Of all neocons on this blog, he’s particularly noxious. Paul and others back their righty opinions with facts — albeit spun with some room for argument ;-). Duh’s a cockroach in a lighted room. You see him and know countless others like him lurk in the wall. Ignorant but driven. He’s so repugnant that he seldom receives support from those who seem to share his beliefs. Comical? Not unless you enjoy hackneyed plays on names. Hitlery. Borat. Urinal. Pitiful? You bet.
By Doomsday is coming! Friday Oct 5,2007
September 25, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Please heed the following announcements:
I. The friends of Doom will now be known as the Legion of Doom. The Legion is as follows: 1.@@ 2.Paul 3.Bosch 4.Duh for Democrats 5. Steve-0.
II. On Doomsday, I will “nominate” the top blogger on Luckovich’s blog for 2007. Doom will also “nominate” the biggest idiot for 2007.
Doom
By Hey, Paul
September 25, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
You remind me of a duck and cover drill.
Not Bush’s fault. Cheneys.
Who’s the boss???
Free Speech? Despicable!Whatever happened to - I may vehemently disagree with what you say, but I will fight like hell for your right to say it?
As for my not understanding…. Your stiff style and really pedantic prose is just plain difficult to follow.
(I admit, I blog on the fly - sentence structure and spelling be damned!)
By getalife
September 25, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
I nominate doomed for the biggest idiot on this blog.
By getalife's motion is denied
September 25, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
idiot.
By Apologizing 4 Wooten
September 25, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
Hey Paul. Spelling is 4 the bees. Your comments are not ignored because of your poor penmanship, or gramatical errors. You are not read because you write like a retard. There’s simply no pay-off for the time invested in reading you.
‘muff said
By Hey, Paul
September 25, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
Paul, if you can’t keep up with the debate, just admit it.
THE CHALLENGE IS STILL ON THE TABLE.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
Come on doomed, you might win and not be a total loser.
Bwa.
By The Media instigates racial tensions
September 25, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
ESPN is having a town hall meeting about whether Vick was treated unfairly. Just when the heat was dying down and we were coming back together, the media, as usual wants to stir the pot for ratings. A*******holes!
Doom
By getalife
September 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
The MoveOn ad worked. That’s what upset them
Hahahahahaha.
doomed losers.
By getalife was recently spotted coming out of a gay club
September 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Stop trying to get my attention. That’s why you’re jealous of @@ because I’m with her. Women usually see you as a brother or friend. They don’t dare risk where your mouth has been. Get lost f@g!
Doom
By mm
September 25, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
I love the smell of wingnut fear in the morning!
Clinton and Obama and Dems oh my! The wizard of oz couldn’t save the GOP in 08.
Iran is so scary. Boo hoo. MoveOn, Iran, Iraq. What happened to OBL?
See Newt run. Run Newt run! The #1 wingnut of all time. Yes, please nominate Newt.
America is onto the wingnut tactics and fed up. The only true doom on this blog is the support for the GOP.
By To coward that is attacking Paul
September 25, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
Paul never hurt or attacked anyone on this blog you insect! If you want to fight someone fight with Doom. That is if your b!cth of a mother will let you!
Doom
By getalife
September 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
Well doomed,
Methinks you protest too much about gays which is a sure sign you are a Craig mens room freak.
Anyhoo, me ♥ the ladies so stop hitting on me freak show.
I vote for you as biggest idiot on the blog.
By May the punk that is attacking Paul identify himself
September 25, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
Whoever you are, you’ve probably gone to participate in your daily head up your cat’s a$$ ritual. If so, don’t bother to respond, I don’t want to disturb you.
P.S. Identify yourself Jacka$$! Paul let’s you know who is he is, so why don’t you? Life must hurt being a chickensh!t.
Doom
Doom
By Hey, Doom
September 25, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Why in the name of heaven and earth would I waste my time on a somebody who plays at being a cartoon character?
Normally, I’d just pour the boy a glass of milk, hand him a cookie, straighten out the pillowcase (cape) tied round his neck then pat his cute crew cute head as I shooed him out to play with his little friends.
Do you really expect to be taken seriously?
By steve-o
September 25, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Great cartoon today!
Doom,
Why must you persist in using such a homophobic slur?
By getalife is attacking Paul
September 25, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
I’ll bet you’re the one attacking Paul getalife. There are no more homocrats here. I thought you liked him, but apparently you saw fit to criticize him and now he’s gone. Paul has treated everyone here with respect, including you, and you crap on him. You really need to getalife.
Doom
By Hey, Doom
September 25, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
The name is Hey.
And sometimes, Paul, like you, is not a good boy.
By No one messes with the Legion of Doom
September 25, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
At least I have an identity you germ! You’re too much of a chickensh!t to ID yourself. You hide behind criticisms to make yourself feel like a man but you aint sh!t homey! Let people know who their fighting instead of being the cowardly lion that you are.
Doom will no longer acknowledge you because of your spineless ways, but if you attack Paul the way you did again, the AJC will surely ban me from this blog!
Doom
By Steve-0 has been brought into the Legion of Doom
September 25, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
Steve-0,
After spending much time contemplating, I’ve decided to add you to my Legion so therefore I’ll be nice. Why does my comment bother you so much? It wasn’t directed at you. Are you gay? If so, then I’ll stop.
Doom
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this
Oh well,
When you post something liberals don’t like, they say it is unimportant and then spin post after post to prove it. Most of their “proof of truth” is name calling. Their multiple IDs are their weapon of veracity since they have no other.
Kerry lost, losers, get over it. The Swift boaters were just one point in many against Kerry. He’s one of the biggest flipfloppers in history and he is history.
Cleland is also political history. AGAIN, he lost out because voters did not like his POLITICS. Got it??
As the expression goes, “You can beat a dead horse but he still won’t run!” Get with the present, libs!
Your phony overtures about support for the country and the military are laughable. Roast ‘em, betray ‘em, lie about ‘em, blame ‘em and try to cut funds. That’s the lib procedure for “support”. Our enemies couldn’t do it any better.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
September 25, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
Doom,
Will there be drug testing in the contest for the biggest idiot of 2007?
It would appear to me that there is reasonable cause to believe that you’ve used idiot enhancing drugs thereby guaranteeing that you would win the award. I don’t know if you’ve been sniffing glue or huffing gas or what but you’ve so clearly dominated the contest that I have to believe that you’ve had significant artificial assistance.
Either that or somone’s taught a spider monkey to type.
Or LuckoDuh and Dusty have a love-child.
RWNJIFG
By Republican Great Brown Hope
September 25, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
ZURBATIYA, Iraq - The U.S. colonel had a simple question.
“Where are the signs you were supposed to get?” he asked the Iraqi border guard as they stood on a remote desert road believed to be a smuggling route from Iran.
The Iraqi officer pointed his flashlight at three signs that were intended to alert motorists to checkpoints. The signs were lying on a mound of sand
“Why haven’t you put them up?” Col. Mark Mueller asked during a late-night inspection. “All you have to do is pound the stakes into the ground.
But, the Iraqi explained, he didn’t have a shovel.
Now this is way cool, Iraqis are becoming masters of Republican double-speak. Since American troops can’t seem to teach em how to fight and keep order, at least they have managed to teach this bunch of ‘patriots’ SOMETHING during the past 4 1/2 years.
Don’t it make ya feel all warm n cuddly knowin that the Republican Great Brown Hope (trainin Iraqi ‘security’ to step up to the plate) is goin so swimmingly?
By Hey, Doom
September 25, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Since when, you pompous windbag is Hey, not an ID?
Are you posting under your real name?
Is there an address somewhere where Betty and Bob Doom and all the little Doomkins live?
Do your Christmas cards say Wishing you Doom this holiday season.
I will admit to finding you humorous.
Say HI to Lex Luther for me!
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
September 25, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
You are right about libs avoiding issues. Its just like when Petraeus couldn’t say that success in Iraq would make us safer in the US. I mean you have the General in charge undercutting the liberals main argument for getting us into this war and for maintaining it and you couldn’t find one liberal to even address it. Of course we wingers don’t have to address it because even if we said that Iraq made us safer we didn’t mean it, don’t care whether it does or not and basically we could care less whether some guy from Peoria gets killed today for something other than making his country safer anyway.
I mean when I hear people whine and say “hey, we’ve lost nearly 4,000 troops and over 25,000 seriously wounded and the General in charge can’t even say that their sacrifice makes us safer? How do you justify your support of the war?” I simply reply that I don’t care.
RWNJIFG
By Hey, Everybody
September 25, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
Is Doom Paul’s nanny or his mommie?
By getalife
September 25, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
In op-ed pieces, interviews and TV ads, more than 20 retired U.S. generals have broken ranks with the culture of salute and keep it in the family. Instead, they are criticizing the commander in chief and other top civilian leaders who led the nation into what the generals believe is a misbegotten and tragic war.
Move on.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
The Revolt of the Generals’
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Doom, OOOHHHH, I like the name “Legion of Doom” What happened to Midori being on your list? Now, don’t get me wrong, I like steve-o and can think of no one more deserving to be on your friend list, but did you and Midori break up?
mm, “I love the smell of wingnut fear in the morning.”
LOL! Yeah, you can smell that fear in many posts today. It’s like they have to keep writing that nonsense just so they’ll know they are indeed alive, but alas, their time is near.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Democracy Now! Naomi Klein asks Alan Greenspan about those missing billions in Iraq
By BD
September 25, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
Hey Mike, Fascinating, don’t you think, how those same business interests that tell us global warming doesn’t exist are also touting nuclear power as THE solution to reduce greenhouse gas emissions?
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Now libs have gone to telling really stupid stories such as the one by”Republican Great Brown Hope” better known as PoFo.
Libs not only want to bash our troops, they also zero in on Iraqis.
Seems they are a bit lost after the surge is working and General Petraeus is popular with his honesty and his results. Bush sent him.
Saying “Bush is a traitor” or “Bush did it!” has lost its luster and comes across as stupidity which it always was. Those lines don’t have a ring to them so libs are trying desperately for something new.
Keep trying, libs, but you’ve got a long way to go. Try loyalty for a change.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
dusty,
Take your meds vet hater.
You lost.
Move on won.
Move on loser.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Check out a fine example of the pathological lies that the liberals have to tell to cover up their inbred perverted ideas:
{{{{By bj in ky September 25, 2007 1:00 PM Duh portrays the Betrayus ad as disloyal but has said on this blog ((((((((that U.S. troops))))))))) in Vietnam were cowards who “ran screaming from the battlefield.”}}}}
Just a subtle, dishonest play on what was actually said, counting on the basic ignorance of his fellow goony liberals:
{{{{By Luckoduh September 20, 2007 6:36 PM Three, how many American lives and how much money will it take to do whatever it is we’re trying to achieve in Iraq?}}}}Less than you cowards killed in Vietnam before you ran screaming from the battlefield.}}}}
Kowards being you democrats, I said zero about American soldiers.
As many times that I’ve called our troops the bravest and most honorable men in the world, it is a typical liberal pigsty for this POS to even suggest otherwise.
But what else do you expect from a pinko?
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
Dusty, If only Bush would try loyalty for a change, a loyalty to the people of this country who voted (you do remember what voting means don’t you) to end this war back in November.
But alas. He just doesn’t care what we want as long as he gets his precious oil and his last grasp for power. Unfortunately for him, history will remember him in the same veins as Harding, Buchanan, and Hoover and rightfully so.
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
getalife 2:28
I stopped paying any attention to you long ago.
A mind is a terrible thing to lose. Tell us how it feels.
By mm
September 25, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
I’m loyal to my country. YOU are loyal to your political party.
Sad.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
Report: GOP “Broke,” Expecting To Lose More House Seats
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Report: Pro-War GOP Senators Refusing To Be Interviewed About Iraq On National Television
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
Civil war has been averted in Iraq and Iranian intervention there has “ceased to exist,” Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said yesterday.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
War News for Tuesday, September 25, 2007
Security incidents:
Baghdad:
1: Two blasts in Baghdad’s eastern Zaynounna neighbourhood left over seven Iraqis dead and 25 others wounded, an Iraqi police source said. Two car bombs went off consecutively outside a bank where pensioners queued to receive their monthly payments, the source added. Independent Voices of Iraq news agency reported that the first car bomb, which was parked in al-Rubaie Street, went off at 11:00 am (0700 GMT), followed five minutes later by a similar blast near a shop selling cell phones. 2: A roadside bomb near a police station wounded seven people, including a policeman, in the Karrada district of central Baghdad, police said. 3: A roadside bomb killed one person and wounded four in eastern Baghdad, police said. 4: The Iraqi army killed four insurgents and arrested 31 during the last 24 hours in different parts of Iraq, the Defence Ministry said. 5: a U.S. force detonated an explosive charge planted on the main road in al-Aaqari neighborhood, eastern Baghdad, after sealing off the area. 7: Police found 8 unidentified bodies today. 6 bodies were found in Karkh, the western side of Baghdad in the following neighborhoods (2 bodies Amil, 1 body in Risala, 1 body in Hurriyah, 1 body in Al Jamia’a and 1 body in Saidiyah). 2 bodies were found in Rusafa, the eastern side of Baghdad in the following neighborhoods (1 body in Sadr city and 1 body in Palestine Street.)Other Provinces Here
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
Well, I speak to getalife and mm answers immediately… a man of multiple personalities it seems.
getalife, mm, etc/etc.—-I am loyal to the USA and to those whom serve us well. That covers the President and the troops. You are loyal to WHAT country??
By Hey Dusty
September 25, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
Are you loyal to the Constitution?
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
O’Reilly Rips Columbia’s Invitation To Ahmadinejad As ‘Revolting,’ But Admits He Invited Him Too
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
No wonder Gen. Petraeus reported that sectarian killings are down in Iraq — our generals are cooking the books!
On Sept. 1, the bullet-riddled bodies of four Iraqi men were found on a Baghdad street. Two days later, a single dead man, with one bullet in his head, was found on a different street. According to the U.S. military in Iraq, the solitary man was a victim of sectarian violence. The first four were not.— Such determinations are the building blocks for what the Bush administration has declared a downward trend in sectarian deaths and a sign that its war strategy is working. They are made by a specialized team of soldiers who spend their nights at computer terminals, sifting through data on the day’s civilian victims for clues to the motivations of killers.
Hmmm… now WHO would be wanting to fudge those numbers these days???
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
Your taxpayer dollars at work: The Navy has begun an investigation into who smuggled unauthorized underwear into Gitmo. Our only question: were there leaks involved?
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
bosch,2:34
Maybe you didn’t notice but the election you mentioned was not presidential. We certainly found out what a disaster that brought on….a liberal, balking Congress.
The President does not make decisions based on polls. They are not votes. He makes them based on the advice of the cabinet and his administrative officers. He is aware of public feelings. He reads the CIA reports. He has not always been right but moves to correct misdirection.
Just as Lincoln sometimes got public dissatisfaction, bad advice and had to change Generals over and over to get success, I would call him one of the best Presidents ever.
Too bad you can’t see beyond your set opinions (like concrete!!) about President Bush. He is strong even without the support of people like you. We will win this war without a doubt. Bush has led us through tough times with honor and without retreat. I call that great.
By HEY, DUSTY
September 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
ARE
YOU
LOYAL
TO
THE
CONSTITUTION???
By getalife
September 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
crusty,
I will believe the 20 real Generals instead of a scab, political gop want to be President General who lied to Congress.
Are you saying the 20 Generals are not loyal to this country?
It is obvious you are loyal to the gop not the country.
You are a fraud, a fake, part time, American.
Go blog with your ilk at Jim’s.
Loser.
By Real News
September 25, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
Two men were killed Monday night in shootings on the South and Southwest Sides, Chicago police said. 2.Detroit Police are at the scene of a suspected double murder on the west side. Police said a man in his 40s and his son, believed to be 18, were found shot to death in their home in the 14000 block of Tuller around 11 a.m. today. 3. Three teenage girls were shot and wounded as they hung out on a stoop in Brooklyn last night, cops and witnesses said. 4. A police officer fatally shot an armed gunman Monday night in Richmond’s Iron Triangle neighborhood. 5. Los Angeles Authorities Tuesday sought the public’s help to find the killer of a 76-year-old Gardena woman who was beaten to death as she was taking a morning walk. 6. Clayton County Police are trying to find out if the murders of four young women in the past five years are connected.By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
Burying the truth about Bush
{{{{This is a presidency sold to the public on the phony image of Bush as a man of superior character — a straight shooter, a veteran, a man who understands and respects duty and honor. (This was meant to contrast with Bill Clinton and, by extension, Al Gore.) … This personal character of Bush’s has been a cornerstone of his entire governing style. Should we go to war? Trust Bush — he’s a “good man.” Economy’s in the dumpster? “He’s working hard to make things better.” Wrecking the environment? “How can you impugn our motives?” Valerie Plame? “That’s just politics.”
This style gives way to the kind of arrogance that can dress Bush up in a flight suit and send him jetting out to the deck of an aircraft carrier, in way specifically designed to emphasize his own phonied-up service record, for the sake of a photo op prematurely announcing “Mission Accomplished.” It’s what lets Bush get away with posing for all the world as a veteran “war president” with a real respect for the suffering of average soldiers. And it’s what lets him and his minions get away with impugning the motives and patriotism of the people who question his leadership.}}}
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
Thanks Real News for underscoring the following!
(Really do appreciate your good work! your a hell of an American!)
[Violent Crime Up For Second Year](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/01/AR2007060102360.html
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Thanks Real News for underscoring the following!
(Really do appreciate your good work! your a hell of an American!)
Violent Crime Up For Second Year
Sorry about the bad link,
I get so excited when Real News helps me out.
Ain’t he a peach!!!
By reebok
September 25, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
ML - one of your funniest cartoons ever. I guess Newter is just naturally funny…
By getalife
September 25, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Kos ♥ Joe Wilson
President Clinton will put him back to work.
Probably give his wife a job too.
Karma.
Bwa.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
[He’s not being feared. He’s being laughed at. Imagine how the Iranian people feel seeing these clips (and they’re seeing them). Imagine how the rest of the Iranian government feels being made to look so foolish — and all for this jester’s dreams of personal aggrandizement. The Bush administration has long upheld that our best weapons against Iran are our unwillingness to speak with them and the threat of bombing. They’ve failed. But our willingness to expose Ahmadinejad to the risks of free ands public speech, combined with YouTube, may prove to be far more potent.] (http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2007/09/ahmadinejad-get.html)
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
Dusty, I know that your thinking abilities never evolved to that of abstract or critical thinking, but the public spoke in November.
The Congress is so dismal because there are still too many Bush loving boot licking Republicans still there, but that will change too, hopefully next November.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
He’s not being feared. He’s being laughed at. Imagine how the Iranian people feel seeing these clips and they’re seeing them. Imagine how the rest of the Iranian government feels being made to look so foolish — and all for this jester’s dreams of personal aggrandizement. The Bush administration has long upheld that our best weapons against Iran are our unwillingness to speak with them and the threat of bombing. They’ve failed. But our willingness to expose Ahmadinejad to the risks of free ands public speech, combined with YouTube, may prove to be far more potent.
Oh gosh! I think I may have broke my linker!!!!
By Shawny
September 25, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
From the Slate, a fave source of the libs…
Clinton votes against and does not denounce….then denounces later
Hmmmmm…pay really close attention. This woman attempts to play all sides of all fences. She tells various groups what each wants to hear…trying to appease the “middle” without alienating the far left wackos.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
This vote is the start of war with Iran
By bj in ky
September 25, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
Duh,
Say for the sake of argument you are more than taking up valuable oxygen to fill the vacuum where most people’s brains sit. Pinko? Naw, just the ability to think without having to consult Bushie Morning News to have my opinions formed for me. I don’t think we should be in Iraq, and I don’t like Hillary Clinton. The concept of having such diametrically opposing views must leave you spinning in confusion. He’s a pinko because he doesn’t like the war, which is something you leave to others, anyway, you sanctimonious a-hole. But he’s a conservative because he doesn’t like Clinton. My lord, he must be a (Duh visits the BMN archives for the right word, but nothing shows up and he’s lost). Kowards, now I like that. Not that you have ever been in a position to judge what is and isn’t cowardly. You have no support here. Even those who share your beliefs are ashamed to admit it. I’m making you my project, dude. I’m rounding up statements of Islamic fanatics you’d like to see dead and tracking your posts. Change a word here or there — is it an imam or Duh? Maybe I’ll make it a contest. Meanwhile, I’ll let the 82nd know you will be right over to lead them into Iran. Pathetic.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
[[[[Reid: Lieberman-Kyl amendment being revised. At a press conference this afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said that the hawkish amendment on Iran being offered by Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) is now being revised prior to a Senate vote on the matter:
REID: There are efforts being made before we vote on them to modify those two amendments, because people have issues with both of those amendments. So, until we finalize what they really want to do, I think it would be unwise for me to say that I support Kyl-Lieberman, or don’t support it. I think I have to wait until I see what they are finally going to come up with, because some people have some real substantive problems with what’s in that Kyl-Lieberman amendment.
The revisions to the Lieberman-Kyl amendment are most likely driven by concerns raised by Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA), who warned the amendment amounted to a declaration of war}}}}.
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
The New York Times does a piece on how — despite right-wing hyperventilation — Ahmadinejad isn’t really that important. Not in his own country, and not in the grand scheme of international relations, except for how we keep supporting him by giving him too much attention and being belligerent.
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
HEY DUSTY @3:18
LOYALTY?
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
Why don’t you repeat that some time?
bosch,3:39
One election does not make an earth moving event. This last one only opened the door for us to see the disaster that awaits us if we elect Democrats to run our country. That is what our enemies are hoping to see.
If you are interested in personal evaluations of mental abilites, go work with PoFo. He likes a good joke and you would make him laugh. I’m not interested myself.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Reid should block that bill and it should never hit the floor.
It is ridiculous and a real outrage to give a loser like w another war.
Geez.
By RE
September 25, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Sure, why not a third war before the other two are anywhere near finished.
I can see it now, the question will be over roadside bombs. no thought as to any objective in a war, or way out, or victory conditions, just another conflict without end or purpose.
By @@
September 25, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Doom:
You’re smart enough to know why the liberals post under multiple IDs. They suffer from “Hillary-itus” (sorry, I know she’s your candidate of choice). They want to have it both ways with Paul….to be able to engage him when his assessments serve them and cowardly attack him when his assessments offend.
That’s the way I see it anyway.
Newt won’t run, he just wants to be in the forefront during the campaign. He could serve to reveal the true Hillary while arguing that the GOP is in the process of transformation due to his directives. Not a bad strategy.
By Midori
September 25, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
Bush Bombs at the United Nations By Larry Johnson on Sep 25, 2007 in Current Affairs
………. today’s performance in New York set a new low even for the Bush Administration. Except for tepid applause when Bush was introduced and when he left the podium, no one clapped. Not even our allies. The world has caught on to the George Bush propaganda game and declines to show him a modicum of respect.
…………….
America’s moral authority is gone. Our credibility in talking about foreign threats and the need to respect human rights is zippo. What is truly appalling about this development is that we have aligned ourselves in practice with those very regimes we so vigorously condemn. In the past, authoritarian regimes like the Soviet Union, China, and Cuba, would justify their right to detain people without worrying about due process because they defined those individuals as terrorists who threatened the state and the security of their people. From their standpoint, all was fair when it came to protecting the nation. Security of the people was paramount, and human rights and civil liberties be damned in the face of perceived threats.
………………………
So the world sat largely silently listening to a crazed little man rant about the abuses in the rest of the world. But his condemnation of the war in Sudan and the creation of refugees in Darfur could not blot out the reality of his war in Iraq and the millions who have fled that hell hole.
……………….
The rest of the world sees and understands our hypocrisy. Unfortunately, many Americans share the ignorance and vacuity of George Bush and do not realize how foolish and stupid we look on the world stage. Today’s performance by George Bush does nothing to win friends or influence enemies. It simply reinforces the notion that the United States is in the grips of a President who has fulfilled the prophecy of H.L. Mencken:
By Hey Dusty
September 25, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
You will pledge allegiance to a flag but don’t have the ovaries to state that you are loyal to the Constitution?
WHY
ARE
YOU
AFRAID
TO
BE
LOYAL
TO
THE
CONSTITUTION?
Is it the whole “We the people” thing?
Are you more of a “Me and Mine” kind of chick?
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
September 25, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
On at least a half dozen occasions on this blog I have made reference to Gen. Petraeus’ testimony that he really didn’t know whether success in Iraq would make us safer at home.
On each occasion the issue has been completely and totally avoided by the wingers on this blog.
I am just glad to know that our soldier’s sacrifices for things other than American security do not trouble you in the least. I’m glad to know that no winger will ever stand up and ask what a military operation will do to make us safer at home. I think thats a good thing for the country. We should be able to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason without having to ask or answer such irrelevant questions.
I’m glad that we support the troops in dying for whatever cause we may make up in our mind without any consideration for American safety.
You wingers really are great Americans, each and every one of you. Your intellectual flexibility has allowed you to change 180 degrees from what was said with respect to Bosnia and Somalia. You have shown that fealty to a principle is not nearly as important to undying and unquestioning support of the Fuhrer… I’m sorry I meant the President… that is a Republican President of course.
RWNJIFG
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
{{Keep trying, libs, but you’ve got a long way to go. Try loyalty for a change.}}
Does anyone else have the vision of Dust-Brains clicking her heels and saluting the object of her “loyalty”???
EWWWWW!
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
LMAO at the obvious. Newt wants to be somebody’s candidate for VP (he knows he can’t get the top spot). He will bring $$$ and a lot of the uneducated southern hillbilly vote.
@@: Your 4:10 post contained a few errors. First, you referred to Doom as “…smart enough…”. Second, you stated that Hillary is the candidate of choice of liberals. She is supported by less than half of polled Democrats. Third, you state that liberals want to have it both ways with Paul. Many (including me) engage him in respectful dialog.
So when you want to attack people, try singling out the individuals that bother you instead of making yourself look like a mewling Bush apologist.
By Hey Everybody
September 25, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
Is challenging Paul and his often gross generalizations or statement of opinion as fact an ATTACK?
That’s troll thinking.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
{{{{By bj in ky September 25, 2007 3:51 PM Pinko? Naw, just the ability to think without having to consult Bushie Morning News to have my opinions formed for me.}}}}
Um, sorry for the confusion but my use of the word “pinko” has nothing to do with your political leanings; no, I call you that because you are a lying POS that hates America.
{{{{I don’t think we should be in Iraq, and I don’t like Hillary Clinton. The concept of having such diametrically opposing views must leave you spinning in confusion.}}}}
Actually, I think Bush is an utter failure, due mostly to the fact that he compromised with some of the most notorious pervert back stabbing scumbag democrats, like Swimmer Kennedy for instance, instead of stomping their guts out but I still think it would be rather stupid for America to leave Iraq and hand Al Qaeda a huge victory over a nation that they were partly right to call a bunch of cowards.
{{{{You have no support here.}}}}
I’m #4 on Doom’s list, dumbas-s.
{{{{I’m making you my project, dude. I’m rounding up statements of Islamic fanatics you’d like to see dead and tracking your posts. Change a word here or there — is it an imam or Duh? Maybe I’ll make it a contest.}}}}
Oh, gee, another pinko stalker.
You know, someday when you grow up, you’ll look back on that statement^^, “I’m your project,” and you might realize what a paranoid, delusional, deranged, bizarre idea that really was, but if reading my each and every word excites you that much now, who am I to complain?
Knock yourself out.
Koward.
Now who’s head is spinning, junior?
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Bush’s $83,000 Lie About SCHIP
By Doomsday is coming! Friday Oct 5,2007
September 25, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
To the phoney that calls himself Hey, so he claims,
My comments are in reference to Luckovich IDs, not actual names dumba$$. Your ID is not Hey anyway. You are just some loser of a blogger who picks on people who can’t or don’t fight back. My point was that if you attack Paul, be prepared to face the wrath of Doom.
P.S. You are no doubt some multi ID user who normally uses another ID when people like Paul say something you like.
Doom
By IN THE NEWS
September 25, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
White House backs down, withdraws CIA nominee
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
HEY DUSTY @ 4:14
YOU CANNOT SUPPORT THE REPUBLIC WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION.
If that is too much for you to comprehend, then give it up. You are just following the usual liberal tactics anyway. Who needs it? Nobody.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
September 25, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
With some minor modifications that are necessary:
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLICANS FOR WHICH IT STANDS, A GOP NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR US.
RWNJIFG
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
I would like to pose a question in the form of a scenario to all you peace and Iran Terrorist dictator lovers; if the United States had dropped a bomb on Hitler’s as-s in 1938, would it have been a good thing or a bad thing?
By Hey Dusty
September 25, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Why can’t you just say it.
Does it stick in your craw?
You said: YOU CANNOT SUPPORT THE REPUBLIC WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION.
Did it hurt or something?
You went thru a bunch of silly machinations and then acting testy pop in with that.
Well. Well.
At long last.
I see you CAN be pushed.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
4 on doomed list?Ha, I am #1.
Bwa.
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
No they don’t, Goldie @ 4:14
Americans know what loyalty means and it is not “clicking heels” or any of your other cliches.
Maybe libs have forgotten the meaning of loyalty to country. That IS possible it seems. You are so proud of your disloyalty. I wouldn’t brag on it if I were you.
By @@
September 25, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
N-GA:
Sometimes I read your posts as intelligent offerings, sometimes I don’t. One thing I can say with certainty is that Doom is entertaining, you’re not and never have been.
Hillary is Doom’s chosen candidate. I don’t know if Doom is a Democrat, a Republican or an Independent.
No…..I said that Hillary wants to have it both ways and then compared that to liberals here who have been caught on numerous occasions posting under multiple names. Just a fact buddy and my own speculation as to why they behave so.
None of you “bother me” N-GA. Sorry to disappoint.
By The Legion of Doom rules
September 25, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
@@ and duh,
I personally believe that liberalism is a mental disease. It is typically caused by traumatic experiences during childhood. What happens is that sometimes a person is abused or severely let down in some sort of fashion by a loved one and instead of being delivered from it or confronting the person responsible for it, they take it out on society. They love the culprit too much to blame them so they find other “authority” figures to blame. Some conservatives may have had similar experiences, but we have the intestinal fortitude to overcome these unfortunate events and rise to the occasion to become productive citizens without blaming others for our problems.
Doom
By getalife is 1# on my loser list
September 25, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Don’t get confused punk!
Doom
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Ooops:
{{{{I don’t think we should be in Iraq, and I don’t like Hillary Clinton. The concept of having such diametrically opposing views must leave you spinning in confusion.}}}}
Actually, I think Bush is an utter failure, due mostly to the fact that he compromised with some of the most notorious pervert back stabbing scumbag democrats, like Swimmer Kennedy for instance, instead of stomping their guts out but I still think it would be rather stupid for America to leave Iraq and hand Al Qaeda a huge victory over a nation that they were partly right to call a bunch of cowards.
Now who’s head is spinning, junior?
Koward.
By Hey Doom
September 25, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
You whining about multiple ID’s?
Holy Crap
Let’s see….
Doomsday is coming! Friday Oct 5,2007
getalife was recently spotted coming out of a gay club
To coward that is attacking Paul
May the punk that is attacking Paul identify himself
getalife is attacking Paul
No one messes with the Legion of Doom
ALL THOSE ID’S BEFORE 2:oo Today
Legion of Doom Indeed.
By Doom is independent
September 25, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
@@,
Doom voted for Bush in the last election, but has since backed off slightly. Actually, I have been following Obama lately, attending his speeches, but I’m not sure if he’s ready. Clinton is cool, but I think she says a lot of things homocrats want to hear. I am currently on the fence right now.
Doom
By mm
September 25, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Dusty and @@,
I post under my id and my id only.
Now go waive a flag and stick a yellow ribbon on something.
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
@@,
I never try to be entertaining. And you shouldn’t confuse Doom’s entertainment value with intelligence.
You’re correct in that you noted that Hillary is Doom’s candidate of choice (makes me kind of wonder).
I don’t believe anyone on this blog has figured out what makes Doom tick. I choose to leave him alone.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Doom: One of the many things that made liberalism so bad is when these perverts realized they could extort our government using their fake, guilty conscience grievances.
It has become their lively hoods.
By Stop stalking Doom!
September 25, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Hey Dumba$$,
I end all my comments with my ID ratface. Those illustrate the purpose of my message.
Doom
By @@
September 25, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Gosh Doom…
Some conservatives may have had similar experiences, but we have the intestinal fortitude to overcome these unfortunate events and rise to the occasion to become productive citizens without blaming others for our problems.
Amazing insight into my childhood after my Dad passed.
By Maude
September 25, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
Oh my. Poor little Duh. So filled with hatred and a lifetime of failure and jealousy and envy and never being accepted by peers and, well, it’s just awful to live that way now isn’t it? How awful school must have been for him as always in the corner as the dunce and with parents who rightfully rejected him. Such a pitiful little boy. Oh my. Hear him squeal.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Dusty, Americans know what loyalty means, too bad George W. Bush doesn’t.
You are wrong, one election can change the world, look what happened in 2000 and see what we have now, a nation spiraling out of control.
You do not pledge allegiance to our flag, you only pledge allegiance to George Bush and would probably be willing to follow him through the gates of hell (if there was one) if he told you to.
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Andy-DUHHH @ 4:37 — only you Neo-cons could believe that a pre-emptive bomb is “a good thing”… why wait for any EVIDENCE or FACTS to get in your way, hmmm??? Just go ahead and bomb away, based on your faulty intelligence and suspicions. Never mind what anybody else in the world may think of your pre-emptive actions.
No, wait…. never mind! Deja vu!
By Hey Doom
September 25, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
I end my ID with an “attention to”
so??
Anyway…it seems it’s easier for you trolls to b!tch about ID’s than to find some way to eeeek out some support for that lame duck in the white house.
go for it!
By Goldie
September 25, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Maude @ 4:53 — DUHHH is our resident 3rd grader here on the blog. He throws his temper tantrums to get some attention in his black-hole of a life… oh, and just wait until you read where he wants to invite you to his church and worship his “savior” with him… very scary indeed!
By N-GA is a smart cookie
September 25, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
Doom has read your comments concerning him. I will not engage you at the moment, just be careful with how you talk to @@.
Doom
By getalife
September 25, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
crusty will not support President Clinton.
Never did, never will.
She is a fake.
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
Err HEY DUSTY 4:38
Why don’t you and right Wing Nut Job just repeat the Pledge of Allegiance and let it go at that. Why does it bother you that I am loyal to this country and its government and you are not obviously? You want me to be a disloyal loon like you? No way, Jose.
You libs are so tiresome. Goodbye now. Have fun burning a flag or something.
By @@
September 25, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
N-GA:
So you get to decide who’s intelligent and who’s not? Doesn’t that strike you as a little arrogant?
You choose to leave him alone? Why mention his name then? No self discipline?
Doom:
I’m not registered with either party as well so I guess that makes me an independent. You’re a “wise man” to wait until all there is to know is revealed. I’m not a fan of either Hillary or Obama. I like Biden but he’ll never get the nomination.
A Giuliani/Huckabee ticket would be a nice balance on the Republican side IMO. I’m still waiting for Thompson to show us what he’s got. He’s slow coming out of the gate.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
I responded to Maude at 12:24 and it took her 4 and a half hours to compose this little gem of brilliance:
{{{{By Maude September 25, 2007 4:53 PM Oh my. Poor little Duh. So filled with hatred and a lifetime of failure and jealousy and envy and never being accepted by peers and, well, it’s just awful to live that way now isn’t it? How awful school must have been for him as always in the corner as the dunce and with parents who rightfully rejected him. Such a pitiful little boy. Oh my. Hear him squeal.}}}}
Look out Edgar Allen Poe, here comes Maude.
By Bosch is a liberal member of the Legion of Doom
September 25, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
As a liberal member of my legion, you should find out who this “Hey” idiot is. Doom needs you to infiltrate and decipher what punk is attacking me and Paul.
P.S. Who are you supporting in the 2008 election, Clinton,Obama, other?
Doom
By getalife
September 25, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
doomed is a bushie.
A moron, if you will.
Figures.
By AmVet
September 25, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
OddJob is addressing the UN.
After praising his mythology, he began with a litany of complaints about modern society in regards to women and family.
For one scary second there, I thought OMG! Edwin Meese has made enough money selling arms to them that he has moved to Tehran!
By @@
September 25, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
(((just be careful with how you talk to @@.)))
Aaaaawwwww…
BTW, N-GA. I recognize and cherish chivalry in a man.
I’m a traditionalist.
By @@ rules
September 25, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
Sorry to hear about your father.
I too like Biden, but he is too intelligent and not flashy enough to win. Plus, the race mongers will resurrect his “articulate” remark concerning Obama. I have this thing about actors so I’m hesistant with Thompson.
Doom
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
@@,
In your 4:10 post you said that Doom is “….smart enough to….”. So why can you say that and I cannot say anything about his intelligence? It isn’t a difficult stretch to intuit someone’s “smarts” based upon their rantings on this blog.
It amuses me how you and Doom seem to have one another’s back. And if I need to explain to you how I can leave him alone while mentioning him in a post, then you truly are a hopelessly lost cause. I’ve never directed a post to him because there is no reason to do so (emphasis on “reason”).
By Osama Bin Laden
September 25, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
there there, @@
By This is your final warning N-GA
September 25, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
You obviously want @@, but its too late dude. Don’t get mad at her because she knows a real man when she meets one. Doom seeks no fight with you so lay off the “hopelessly lost cause” remarks to @@. The only thing that is hopelessly lost is your chances with her. Find someone else.
Doom
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Golduh September 25, 2007 5:00 PM Maude @ 4:53 — DUHHH is our resident 3rd grader here on the blog. He throws his temper tantrums to get some attention in his black-hole of a life… oh, and just wait until you read where he wants to invite you to his church and worship his “savior” with him… very scary indeed!}}}}
Well, well, it’s blog biography day:
Golduh is a dimwit who thinks she knows everything and has spent her whole life telling other people, that actually have no interest in what she says, what to do and what to believe in.
Most people will nod with her in “agreement,” when they are really just being cautious around such major moron, they are afraid she could lash out in mindless rage, so they play along. When Golduh turns her back these either breathe a sigh of relief or burst into gales of laughter at the ridiculous things she has told them.
An encounter will not help Golduh; she is too far gone. She has developed a Napoleonic complex and believes that she is smart and that all of us common folk should hinge on her every word.
It is best to just steer clear of this imbecile.
By AmVet
September 25, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
OddJob says the UN should support countries that endorse monotheism, etc.., etc.., etc…
But which mono?
Somebody needs to remind him that the Western mono can kick the Eastern mono’s arse anytime, anywhere!
By getalife
September 25, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
He bashing the UN and certain big powers.
He is proposing a council of peace to reform the UN while our Senate will vote for war.
I was right again, in my prediction that he will come in peace to make us look like out of control warmongers.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this
Doom, I haven’t decided who I’m supporting yet. I don’t like Hillary - too far left, too much baggage. I don’t know enough about Obama.
I want Sam Nunn to run, or somebody comparable. Centrist, I just hope he’s not turned into a rabid fool like Zell Miller, and I think he’s been working on something with Fred Thompson.
I really haven’t decided.
By Bosch
September 25, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Good night Dusty, You can go throw your copy of the Constitution in the fire now.
By bj in ky
September 25, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this
Duh,
It should read lying POS who hates America. If you do nothing else, at least try to get the language straight. Where are my lies, in what form or fashion? We agree on Bush, but for different reasons. What makes you think that I hate America? Nothing’s further from the truth. I love America, have traveled extensively and would rather live nowhere else. I enjoy my right to think for myself — one you might want to indulge in some time. But I think we’ve actually met once. In Greece, maybe. You were the one complaining signs weren’t written in English. The world is not all about us and the way we wish it to be. The Iraqis don’t like us; the thumbs-up signs you take as an affirmation of occupation by the U.S. are the Iraqis’ equivalent of the middle finger we use here. To much of the world we have become the French — the butt of bad jokes and open hostility. You call me junior and say one day I will grow up. Will my mind also close and wish for death — again, delivered by other people — to anything I don’t comprehend?
By N-GA
September 25, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
ROFLMAO, wrenched my back, possible hernia.
I guess this must be blog entertainment.
I guess somebody has to want @@. She is all your’s, Doom!!
By Dusty
September 25, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
There you go bosch,@4:56 ,total paranoia as usual.
The country is NOT spiraling out of control. Your imagination is.
George W. Bush is a strong president. We’ve never had a perfect president nor do I expect one. The country elected him President TWICE. He has stood firm throughout disasters.
You are a blind liberal who reflects no loyalty. Rusncap described it the other day. He said “I don’t like Hillary but if she is the only Democrat on the ticket, I will vote for her.” That is your philosophy also.
I do not “follow” anyone. I support those whom I think are doing an honest capable job. I wonder what schools taught you about loyalty. It was not an American one for sure.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
US walked out.
By Get ready for the O'Reilly race show!
September 25, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Sigh. Everybody fasten your seat belt for the onslaught of attacks that will be hurled toward Bill O’Reilly because of his racial remarks. Doom doesn’t approve of them, but its about d@mn time we start looking in the mirror at ourselves.
Doom
By @@
September 25, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
N-GA:
Do as you please. I’ve always supported that here.
Just like AmVet/Huge, you entered wanting to frame and control discourse. Me? never.
Roll with the punches I say or go flat.
I’m off to read Stratfor.
By bj in ky
September 25, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
BTW, Duh — I see no rousing support for you as yet. Jaybird mouth and hummingbird a**, not willing to act on your own convictions. More than happy to let others do it for you. All together now: pathetic.
By Doomsday: Friday Oct 5, 2007
September 25, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
ATTENTION EVERYONE:
Doomsday will be on Friday OCT 5,2007. On that day, I will “nominate” the top blogger on Luckovich’s for 2007. Doom will also “nominate” the top idiot on Luckovich’s blog for 2007.
Doom has left the building. Any comments that appear in my name are not of Doom’s.
By getalife
September 25, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
I vote for doomed as idiot of the blog.
1 for doomed.
By bj in ky
September 25, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
BTW, Duh — I see no rousing support for you as yet. Jaybird mouth and hummingbird a**, not willing to act on your own convictions. More than happy to let others do it for you. All together now: pathetic.
Dusty — Is “standing firm” the same as not being able to react to a crisis?
By RE
September 25, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
2 for doom.
By RW-(the original)
September 25, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
I’ve had my run ins with dooma$$, but with people like bj in ky, blackadder, mm, and especially goldie around it’s awfully hard to place doom in the idiot category.
By Tony
September 25, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
Dusty, Dusty, Dusty. What a little puke job you are. If you see the weak drunk Bush as “strong,” what does that say about a geek like you? Is that the kind of strength you admire? You, the combat veteran, the Great Indian leader, the physician, the Christian moral values leader? Tell us again, Dusty, tell us again.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
{{{{By bj in ky September 25, 2007 5:27 PM Duh, It should read lying POS who hates America. If you do nothing else, at least try to get the language straight.}}}}
Would somebody, besides my newest stalker, read this sentence and explain to me what is wrong with it, MS Word sure can’t:
{{{{Um, sorry for the confusion but my use of the word “pinko” has nothing to do with your political leanings; no, I call you that because you are a lying POS that hates America.}}}}
Had too much to drink, “war hero?”
{{{{But I think we’ve actually met once. In Greece, maybe. You were the one complaining (that, dumbas-s) signs weren’t written in English. The world is not all about us and the way we wish it to be.}}}}
Last time I was even close to Greece, I was in the back of a deuce and a half, so I really didn’t care what the signs said.
{{{{You call me junior and say one day I will grow up. Will my mind also close and wish for death — again, delivered by other people — to anything I don’t comprehend?}}}}
Probably.
One of the best things about leaving infancy is that you stop trying to “comprehend” the obvious; i.e. when some religious madman says he wants an atom bomb so he can annihilate Israel, then you like, uh, believe him.
I can imagine it is far easier for you to insert your thumb in your mouth and whine about making it stop, and let’s all be friends, but that usually doesn’t work with crazed genocidal madmen.
Matter of fact, that approach usually costs millions upon millions of people their lives.
{{{{BTW, Duh — I see no rousing support for you as yet. Jaybird mouth and hummingbird a**, not willing to act on your own convictions. More than happy to let others do it for you. All together now: pathetic.}}}}
Others that have volunteered, as I did, not to go kill innocent women and children like you pervert POS fantasize about, no, they lay they life on the line for the freedom of others.
It’s been that way all through our history.
In fact, for you to even suggest that American soldiers are or want to kill women and children makes you a special little POS, head and shoulders above your every day normal POS, but hey, you are the one who gets to live with it, not me.
I know our place in the world.
It ain’t my problem that you don’t.
Koward.
By Saddam King George
September 25, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
The latest Macleans, the Canadian newsweekly that claims 2.9 million readers, features a striking image that is not too popular at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. It’s President Bush’s face, but the rest of it is Saddam Hussein, including the mustache, hat and uniform. The image accompanies a story headlined {{{{{{“How George Bush Became the New Saddam,” which chronicles how U.S. troops have partnered with some of Hussein’s former “henchmen”}}}}}} in an effort to achieve order in parts of Iraq.
The provocative magazine cover made news in Canada, where it fired up bloggers and prompted stories from most major news outlets. “Macleans is a fairly conservative magazine. For the magazine to run that kind of cover surprised people,” said Don Newman, senior parliamentary editor for CBC, the Canadian television network.
What a charming image of America King George presents!
By All About the Oil
September 25, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
The oil deal signed between Hunt Oil and the government in Iraq’s Kurdish region earlier this month has raised eyebrows, in no small part because it appears to undercut President Bush’s hope that Iraq could draft national legislation to share revenue from the country’s vast oil reserves. Making the deal more curious is that it was crafted by one of the administration’s staunchest supporters, Ray Hunt.
Hunt, chief executive of the Dallas-based company, has been a major fundraiser and contributor to Bush’s presidential campaigns. He also serves on the president’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, putting him close to the latest information developed by the nation’s intelligence agencies.
If Hunt is signing regional oil deals in Iraq, critics ask, what does he know about the prospects for a long-stalled national oil law that others don’t?
Since the deal was made public, it has drawn the ire of the Iraqi national government, which has called the agreement illegal.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
In the aftermath of the Vietnam War, the Democratic Party’s foreign-policy views curdled from the expansive vision of John F. Kennedy to an inward-looking disposition tinged with paranoia about our own government. The Iraq War has had the same effect on Democrats, many of whom seem to consider the Bush administration a greater threat to peace than the mullahs in Iran. Can you imagine MoveOn.org ever attacking Ahmadinejad in a full-page New York Times ad, let alone as harshly as it denounced Gen. David Petraeus? Out in the real world, Iran is a deadly enemy of the United States. Diplomacy might change its behavior, but only if backed by serious sanctions, and perhaps the credible threat of force. That’s the hard reality. The Iran exception cannot stand.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
September 25, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
Duh,
I would go further than saying that it would have been a good idea to bomb Hitler in 1938. I think it would have been an even better idea to have shown up and bashed his skull in on the day he was born. You’ve got to get these people before they can do any harm. That’s why I don’t have a problem with bombing civilians. You never know what kid that you kill would have grown up to be a bad guy or what woman is gonna have a baby that turns out dangerous to our national interests.
I think if you look at Sir Thomas Aquinas’ work on morality and war, which has long been the standard for Western Civilization, he pretty much says “Kill ‘em all and let God sort them out.”
BTW there is an interesting story behind that phrase. In 1209, during the “Albigensian Crusade” against the Cathar heresy in Southern France, the forces of Orthodox Catholicism had been besieging the city of Beziers, defended by the Cathar heretics, for some time. Finally they breached the walls of the city and prepared to storm it. The commander of the crusade, Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester, pointed out that not everybody in the city was a heretic, some of them were good Catholics, so how should they treat the inhabitants when they captured the city? A monk who was actually present at the siege recorded the answer of the Papal Legate to the Crusaders, Arnaud-Amaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, as “Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.” (“Kill them all. God will know his own.” ) So the Crusaders followed his advice and killed everybody they could find in Beziers.
I can’t think of anything more consistent with what Christ himself would have done. It is because of great stories of Christendom like this that I know that we are morally superior to Muslims because they kill indiscriminatly and thus they are savages beast who we should kill indisciminately.
RWNJIFG
By Analchord
September 25, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
Burma is the new story, folks.
We may witness another massacre.
How about the way Bush pronounced “Junta”. Great stuff, and thanx for the laugh, Mr. Bush, our brave president.
You know what? I think americans love their president. I do. I just want him to resign, but I’ll have that beer with him, which was the criteria we used to elect him.
Me and Bush go into a bar. We both sit down on adjacent barstools. The bartender approaches the both of us, and greets us warmly, lifting his eyebrows as if to say, “What’ll it be”.
“Two beers, please.”, I bark. The bartender turns toward the glasses and takes a couple of steps.
“I’ll have two beers too.” says bush.
By RW-(the original)
September 25, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
{{{{{By Bosch @ 10:00-RW, I’m not going there. We all know who the true fascists are in this country.}}}}}
My gosh Bosch, that was lame even by your standards. It is none other than Hillary Clinton that is demanding centralized government control of private enterprise. Classic fascism. Of course on education she’s more of a Marxist.
By Analchord
September 25, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this
That was very funny and clever, RW. I can see my work is done here.
By Luckoduh
September 25, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
Allow me to repose my earlier question, this time keeping in mind those who were obviously lackadaisical in their history studies:
If the United States had dropped a bomb on Hitler in 1938, which was after he had annexed Austria and had implemented many programs of death upon the captive Jewish, mentally retarded, Gypsy and homosexual populations, including Kristilnacht, would it have been a good thing or a bad thing.
By RW-(the original)
September 25, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
ummm Thanks? Polly.
By Pandora's Box
September 25, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
ST. GEORGE, Utah - The leader of a polygamous Mormon splinter group was convicted Tuesday of being an accomplice to rape for forcing a 14-year-old girl to marry her 19-year-old cousin.
Warren Jeffs, 51, could get life in prison after a trial that threw a spotlight on a renegade community along the Arizona-Utah line where as many as 10,000 of Jeffs’ followers practice plural marriage and revere him as a mighty prophet with dominion over their salvation.
So now that that thin line between church and state has been erased by the Neocons, when do we start locking up the Catholic priests for giving children <21 that ritualistic sip of real communion booze?
Neos wanted the church more involved with the state, consequently, the state is now more involved with the church! Be careful what you pray for, you just might get it, then you just might not want it! If so, too bad, Pandora’s box has already been opened.
By @@
September 25, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
It seems as though “boobs” have become a problem in Venezuela.
(((But Chavez, the anti-U.S., self-styled revolutionary who came to office in 1999, is seeking to change those attitudes to create what he calls the “new man” to build a socialist society in this South American nation.)))
(((Chavez’s answer? He has told his supporters to give away any extra goods they do not need, urging them to leave out in town squares items such as fans or refrigerators.)))
Aren’t his supporters the poor in Venezuela?
(((“I am calling on your conscience, fathers of this country, mothers of this country, they are our sons, they are our daughters,” Chavez said.)))
I sure hope that those of you who are eagerly anticipating socialism here in the U.S. don’t mind having hand-me-down appliances.
By @@
September 25, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this
Hugo goes on… and on… without taking a leak.
Fidel’s prostate is to be admired.
It’s hard to believe that the liberals admire this guy’s ideals.
Weird!