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By Mike Luckovich | Friday, September 21, 2007, 10:45 PM

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By Mrs. Godzilla

September 24, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

One more old gas bag bites the dust!

By Luckoduh

September 24, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Heh, Bush is a Clinton backer:

{{{{BUSH DECLARES: HILLARY WILL WIN NOMINATION; WHITE HOUSE CALLS OBAMA ‘LAZY’}}}}

How do you like them apples, pinkos?

~~~~~~

Heh, France is a Bush backer:

{{{{This projection of French power is like that of General Charles de Gaulle, and every French leader since. But Sarkozy departs from classic Gaullist doctrine by suggesting that the path to that goal sometimes lies in aligning France — and Europe — alongside Washington rather than as a counterpoint to it.}}}}

How do you like them apples, DNC?

~~~~~~

Heh, Clinton is an Iraq war backer:

{{{{Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., said this morning that she will not make any pledges regarding a U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq.}}}}

So how do you like them apples, MoveOn?

~~~~~

{{{{On July 9, 1971, the Post published a story headlined “U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming.” It told of a prediction by NASA and Columbia University scientist S.I. Rasool. The culprit: man’s use of fossil fuels. Aiding Rasool’s research, the Post reported, was a “computer program developed by Dr. James Hansen,” who was, according to his resume, a Columbia University research associate at the time.}}}}

Wrong then, wrong now.

~~~~~~

{{{{“There is no question that we can take out Iran. The problem is the follow-on, the velvet revolution that needs to be created so the Iranian people know it’s not aimed at them, but at the Iranian regime.”}}}}

Yes, what if there was no more Iranian army?

Should we find out for sure?

By Luckoduh

September 24, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

If if and buts were candy and nuts, the libs would all weigh 350 pounds:

{{{{Global warming —- through a combination of melting glaciers, disappearing ice sheets and warmer waters expanding —- is expected to cause oceans to rise by one meter, or about 39 inches. It will happen regardless of any future actions to curb greenhouse gases, several leading scientists say.-Urinal}}}}

It should tell you something that even the goofy libs admit cutting CO2 emissions is pointless exercise in futility.

I wish I could find the picture that accompanied this article in the Urinal, it is hilarious. There is a dude standing along side a stream bed that, judging from it’s exposed bottom, is about 5 feet lower than normal. So this liberal dimwit guy, complete with his funky Hawaiian shirt , is using his hand to illustrate where a 3 foot rise from ice melt would be and it is still lower than the banks of the streambed.

No clue at all, a supposed “scientist,” who is really nothing but a blooming idiot, how many editor’s desks did this picture cross, what was the left wing moron cameraman thinking about, nobody can see the obvious, an empty streambed?

And how many people in North Georgia would like to see about 3 more feet of water right now?

Duh.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Exclusive: Petraeus’ Sectarian Death Count Methodology

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 307

By Anchors

September 24, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Osama bin Laden is addicted to blogging! He’s very opinionated and it seems he has ghost writers, who help him spin. That means he’s reading the US newspapers and watching the US media on the internet. That means he probably reads this blog, if he surfs around, (and who doesn’t)? So we can blog directly to Osama, like this:

Osama, you want us to convert? Look at how many americans already have converted, Osama. We did convert to Islam. Plenty of us. Mohammed Ali, our best pugilist, converted. Hello? At least hire a cultural consultant to read your blogs so that you’ll at least have some historical authenticity and you wont make such a fool out of yourself. I mean, it’s embarrassing having such a nudnik for a nemisis, capiche?

I know, real mean dont say capiche. Like you would know.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

G’morning. You seem to have overlooked a headline that directly relates to a major topic discussed here recently:

Link: NY Times Public Editor says MoveOn should not have given Betrayus ad a discount, should never have run the ad

How interesting. And now for a favorite question. Given the definition developed by many opposed to Pres Bush, did all those who asserted the NY Times charged the same to MoveOn as to any group in similar circumstances, that the NY Times did nothing wrong in publishing the ad..

are all those people who defended the NY Times and the ad, “liars”?

By mountain man

September 24, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

I’d rather be lazy like Obama than stupid like Bush.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

There’s so much more that’s relevant to the current discussion, such as Sen Clinton on Meet the Press yesterday, saying sometimes the President has to go to war even if the UN won’t act and Congress hasn’t given any authorization.

She also condemned the MoveOn Betrayus ad and said MoveOn should not publish any such ads in the future.

Well, she may have ticked off the far, far away Left but she may have got a lot of voters in the majority middle to think, “Hmmm, maybe I could vote for her.”

Link: Hillary on Meet the Press, transcript - not what another website says she said or really meant

By Jesus

September 24, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Paul

September 24, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 8:58

Good for them! That was the right thing to do - pay the difference.

But back to my original question:

Given the definition developed by many opposed to Pres Bush on the reasons for the Iraq war, did all those who asserted the NY Times charged the same to MoveOn as to any group in similar circumstances, that the NY Times did nothing wrong in publishing the ad..

are all those people who defended the NY Times and the ad, “liars”?

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

””“Given the definition developed by many opposed to Pres Bush on the reasons for the Iraq wa”“

and that defintition is?

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Pope to make climate action a moral obligation

By Paul

September 24, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

C’mon. Just wondering if the rhetoric has mellowed, esp. as we may have a Dem President and if the Reps adopt the same tactics as the Dems we’re going to have more of the same.

The definition is? What happened to “Bush lied?” He stated what he thought the situation was, given consistent information portrayed by domestic and foreign intelligence services, being consistent in portraying the same fundamental assertions as the previous administration and senior members of both parties, and when those reasons were later found to be wrong, he was labeled a “liar.”

So now we have a situation where defenders of the NYT/MoveOn imbroglio find that the rate was not proper (even though they were told it was); so, are those people liars?

Or have we ratcheted the level of discourse up, just a teeny tiny bit?

By Paul

September 24, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 9:06

Excuse me, you asked for a clear definition:

“One who repeats information later found to be incorrect is a liar.”

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

SO

the definition developed by many opposed to Pres Bush on the reasons for the Iraq war

is

One who repeats information later found to be incorrect is a liar.”

By Dusty

September 24, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

Tries to confuse

But Paul sets him straight

And I think that is great.

(Just feeling a little poetic this morning after looking at Luckovich’s pathetic rendition of the long serving honorable Alan Greenspan as a balloon goon.)

By Paul

September 24, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

Yes, that seemed to be the line of thought many here put forth. Intent was not an issue - it was the mere repeating of information later found to be false. Quite a leap in definitions, I thought, but that was the position taken.

I don’t know if you were present for those discussions - so please don’t ask me to cite date and time for specifics.

I gave an example - 2005 winners for the Nobel Prize in Medicine - found bacteria cause ulcers. Flew in the face of conventional wisdom - stress, genes, etc. I asked if the medical establishment - doctors, researchers, pharmacists, etc - were all “liars.” I don’t believe I ever had a response.

Someone did offer that intent was not an issue (especially after George Tenet’s book) - but by then it’d pretty much quieted down. Even now, Hillary’s Meet the Press interview - didn’t accuse the Pres of lying, just said, well, yes, I thought he had WMDs and was reconstituting a nuke capability, but when I voted for the war authorization I really meant I was voting for UN inspections.

Yesterday’s good strategy for labeling your opponent turns into something to be ignored the closer your candidate gets to the Presidency -

BTW - I really got a kick out of her assertion sometimes, without the UN or Congress, a Pres has to go to war. If a Rep candidate had said that over the weekend I think we’d see headlines now.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

CNN is still pimping the Moveon ad. Pathetic.

They are gone all the way corporate wh-ore like the rest of the media.

The real outrage was on 60 minutes last night.

A reporter was ownned and put in his place by the President of Iran.

Pelley was a wingnut jerk and the whole world will see it and hate us more.

He should be fired today but there is no accountability anymore in this country.

This country has lost its freaking mind and there is no telling what will happen next.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Which defenders?

The defenders of the ad. Trurhful, Direct and protected free speech. (Hell, if we can’t question generals when we think they are wrong we’ll always be in one war or another!)

The defenders of the ad price? The defenders of how the Times handled it?

Bottom line, as long as you people keep talking about the ad, you don’t have to talk about the WAR.

Cop Out? Smokescreen?

Whatever.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Read this Paul

There is a wingnut on MSNBC that thinks the Columbia students should ask him questions to make a fool of him.

I guess she missed this interview because this guy is no fool like w.

By Anchors

September 24, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

The moveon ad is a small sample of the democratic blunders that we’ll all be tortured with in the campaign.

This is what happens when hacks get promoted by stealing other’s material and selling it as their own. When it’s crunch time, they always screw the pooch. Every time. Without fail.

Betray us was unecessary. We have to blame Moveon’s top people. There should have been a little voice in one of their heads that told them to let the general be judged on his own testimony, and he would have, if Moveon didn’t completely transform his words into stealth testimony.

Moveon is run by hacks and mediocre strategists. The democrats dont have a chance in 08 if they continue to run ads. They just dont have the feel or street smarts or grasp of popular culture for what works. Betray us? Lame, at best. Immature and Shameful, (if you’re being kind), and at the worst, we lose the election by a hair because moveon is all ego, and no stratego.

I’m so tempted to vote republican in 08 based on that one ad alone, and look how liberal I am. It’s like we dont deserve no representation in congress or the whitehouse if we suck that bad. Betray us. It really stinks, doesn’t it? You can even see it being born amid the high fives of everyone in the room who was jealous that they didn’t think of it first, and the flush of self congrats the inventor felt when he first bellowed it out to the laughs and cheers of the other idiots in the room. They all belong behind bars. I’m with bush on this one, it smacks of treason. The demise of tail gunner joe occured when he accused the army of having commies. (army betray us?). Ike said ‘enough’.

gads i hate moveon. loose cannons. What embarrassment will we have to endure next?

By Truthman

September 24, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Did you see “Real Time with Bill Maher” Friday (or over the weekend)?

Janeane Garafalo and Salman Rushdie were so articulate and so spot on about the entire fiasco created worldwide by the Chimperor’s junta.

Let’s whine about a MoveOn.org ad, but we can’t discuss why we have 125,000 mercenaries we have in Iraq making 10 times the money our GIs are earning!!

Let’s whine about a MoveOn. org ad, but don’t ever admit that all the intelligence was cooked by Cheney, Powell, Wolfowitz and Rummy and led us into an illegal, immoral war.

Mendacity!! Mendacity, pure and simple!!

By Paul

September 24, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

Which defenders?

The defenders of the use of the term “liar.”

Rather funny, isn’t it - one of the far Left’s most influential organizations didn’t have the foresight to see that such an ad would divert the discussion from Iraq? I suppose that’s what happens when ideologues attempt policy. Not much differenct than some of Pres Bush’s advisors early on in the Iraq War, are they?

So yes, the defenders of the ad price is okay. Pres Bush repeated Iraq had WMDs. They didn’t. He was labeled a liar. Defenders of the greatly discounted ad price said it was proper. Now that’s found to be not so. Are those who repeated the information liars?

Frankly, I don’t expect many on the Left to say so. The implications are too enormous for them. But in the same way they criticize Pres Bush for not admitting a mistake (same criticism is directed at Hillary) so too do they resist admitting anything that can be labeled a mistake, esp if it would call into question their past political strategy - “Bush is a liar.”

The irony is incredible.

By RW-(the original)

September 24, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 9:56,

Are the scientists liars for once believing the brain injuries were less insidious.

Sorry Paul, I thought I’d give this punk a try at answering your straight question with a different topic instead of letting him dance around the ad topic.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

No problem. The more the merrier.

getalife

Thank you for the transcripts. I was able to see only excerpts so will listen to this. I’ll lay odds his performance at Columbia will be the same, if the excerpts I saw are representative - no direct answers, deny everything.

One excerpt I saw had him ask the reporter “are you a reporter or a politician?” Didn’t we see the same tactic last time he was interviewed?

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

RW and Paul

You don’t like it I know

BUT BUSH DID LIE.

Now go back to blowing smoke.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

It is better if you read them Paul.

You can read can’t you?

Anyhoo, there is a message from w. He used CBS for diplomacy.

Pathetic as usual but you will and cheer it on.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

BTW

Since you started it RW by refering to me as a “punk”

I happen to think you are a simple minded, greedy, selfish, obnoxious, twit and that it is your ilk, if not stopped, that will bring this country down.

But that’s just my opinion.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

Sigh.

Tim Russert quoting and questioning Hillary yesterday on Meet the Press:

“October 10th of 2002 when you… (said)… Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction. So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation.”

“As we sit here this morning, Saddam rebuilding a nuclear weapons program, just not true; giving aid and sanctuary to al-Qaeda, debatable. Your vote in the best interests of the nation. Do you believe that your vote was in the best interest of the nation?

“Well, I cast a sincere vote based on my assessment at the time, and I take responsibility for that vote.”

So, I suppose the sad reality is our possible next President will be a liar? Sad, so sad.

BTW - if there was one element Pres Bush said before the war that was the truth, let alone a truthful comment repeated from another source, then the answer would have to be “in this instance the President was truthful.”

But I think even that is beyond the allowance of the far Left.

By RW-(the original)

September 24, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

It must be blissful to be a braindead moonbat(ic)® like ITN. No wonders/he usually just links fever swamp crap and stays out of the discussion.

By Anchors

September 24, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Jena is a photo-op for this country in the war on terror. Only which side are we supposed to be on. A noose would terrify me. What if Osama Bin Laden held up a noose and said, “It’s Islam or the noose”. What kind of rope-a-dope would muslim Ali shuffle out about that? Hope he doesn’t get clay feet.

Islam and the Noose. Sounds like a movie.

Watch Osama steal this idea in his next video. I’m baiting him with it. If he uses it we’ll know he’s just another hack. zzzzz. Next bad guy.

By Dusty

September 24, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Dear Anchors,@ 9:59

I hope that you retain your thought of voting for Republicans. I am glad but think you are a bit late in your realization (if it is for real).

There has been a campaign of hate against the President of the USA ever since Gore lost out.

You pictured a bunch of liberal “flunkies” getting a big laugh over the joke of “Be-tray-us”. That is just one of their betrayals of truth. It has been a constant smear against any Republican politician including family, friends and those serving in the present administration. Every new policy, good or not, has been rejected by Democrats. They did vote for the war but now try to negate even that.

Democrats have waged a war all right—one against the present administration of the USA.

The term “Betray us” is OK if applied to the Democratic Party.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 10:10

Hey, congratulations! First time, I believe! You expressed an opinion!

getalife 10:13

English, usually. Understanding what some mean by what they write can be a challenge, though.

I have to sign off for a while. TTYL -

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

”’But I think even that is beyond the allowance of the far Left.”’

Yep, that 80% who are now against the war…..that far left???

BTW that “If there was one element of truth…..”

That there is a mighty big IF.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

RW

an insult from you is a badge of honor!

Thanks!

By getalife

September 24, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

“Ahmadinejad responds by asking what do Americans like about Bush. Pelley’s answer? Bush is a religious man.”

“As an American citizen tell me what trait do you admire?” the president asked Pelley.

“Well Mr. Bush is without question a very religious man for example, as you are,” Pelley replied.

“What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to occupy another country and kill its people, please tell me, does Christianity tell its followers to do that?” Ahmadinejad asked.”

Those are American wingnuts not real Christians.

By AmVet

September 24, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

A true conservative doesn’t campaign on promises of a “humble” relationship with other nations and then, as Treasury Secretary and National Security Council member Paul O’Neill reports, start secretly planning how he can justify a war at his first cabinet meeting within 10 days of inauguration.

Six years into this ineptly run clusterfork of a quagmire and there are still amazingly, Bush apologists.

This President wanted Saddam’s head from the get go. I believe a significant part of that was to restore some faith in the Bush name as Daddy “never finished the job”.

WMDs, “mushroom clouds as smoking guns”, specious speculations about a Iraqi/Al Queda connection, etc was all a smoke screen for him and Cheney to go after regime change.

Pure and simple. And as he had beautifully and correctly kicked the Taliban’s repulsive a*******es in Afghanistan he was immeasurably emboldened.

Hussein was completely pinned down and was not the primary (real?) enemy. Certainly not the enemy of 9/11. Our oily “friends” in Saudi Arabia and others were and still are.

This botched invasion/occupation has little to do with national security or the war on murdering Islamic madmen, as the administration continues to absurdly claim. The last time I looked, the Baathists were completely secular.

It was IMHO to prove that rogue, urban cowboy, go it stupidly alone, do not believe in negotiations, create a “war” strategy is a viable neo-con tactic for the future.

And they are eying Iran with much the same relish.

Whats that? I think I feel a draft coming in through the door.

By Anchors

September 24, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Christ started a church. He had one rule. Talk to God.

Anyone who would talk to god holding a gun will miss the target.

Bush was elected. We all saw how. (What a brilliant showman Gore turned out to be.)

Bush is a showman too.

Brilliant show business

By Paul

September 24, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS

Just hit “enter” to post my last comment and yours popped up.

The percent opposed to the war is not the same as the percent who identify themselves as far Left or who use the word “Lie” so loosely.

“Big” if or “little” if. It’s just an “if/then” construct - if any part of the “if” is false the statement is false. If the “if” is true, the “then” is not necessarily true. It rather simplifies evaluating what politicians say.

BTW Dusty - spoke with a neighbor last night, referred to himself as adhering to many Rep principles, feels like an Indep, can’t understand how Reps got so far from principle (eg. spending, the environment, not caring for less fortunate) said he just might vote Dem next election. Oh, and he’s a Mormon, too.

Then this morning I read Mitt levels both barrels against the Rep leadership over the same kinds of things. Seems like a good political move - when disaffected conservatives feel like nothing’s lost by voting Dem, things are serious. I don’t know if it was Mitt’s advisors or his instincts, but it seems like a smart move.

Bye, now -

By getalife

September 24, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

AmVet,

I was thinking about a draft this morning after the 60 minute interrogation of Iran’s President:

“This is not Guantanamo Bay. This is not a Baghdad prison. Please, this is not a secret prison in Europe. This is not Abu Ghraib,” Ahmadinejad said. “This is Iran. I’m the president of this country!”

I think our government will repackage the draft as some name like Homeland service.

They are mad at us because we do not approve of their actions so I would not be surprised to see it soon.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

RW

Discussion?

On this blog?

Wingnuts vs. Moonbats?

This is not much more than an extended Vent.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Bye RW.

Just use one name, the child like game is getting old er Paul.

By Luckoduh

September 24, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 24, 2007 10:28 AM “What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to occupy another country and kill its people, please tell me, does Christianity tell its followers to do that?” Ahmadinejad asked.”}}}}

al-Gitmo: I know you are just doing your duty to allah and the democrat party but I’d like to get the following viewpoint on record:

Do you believe that America has invaded Iraq for the purpose of killing it’s innocent women and children or to free them from religious tyranny?

And in the same vain, is Al Qaeda the one sending suicide bombers to the innocents or is that the United States doing it?

Don’t be a koward, answer the question.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Check out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/23/AR2007092301431_pf.html

It appears that sniper teams are placing certain items in open view and waiting for someone to pick it up and then shooting them. The theory is:

“Baiting is putting an object out there that we know they will use, with the intention of destroying the enemy,” Capt. Matthew P. Didier, the leader of an elite sniper scout platoon attached to the 1st Battalion of the 501st Infantry Regiment, said in a sworn statement. “Basically, we would put an item out there and watch it. If someone found the item, picked it up and attempted to leave with the item, we would engage the individual as I saw this as a sign they would use the item against U.S. Forces.”

What a fantastic program: I think they should use money because 1) it would show that person was a thief or that he was going to use the money to fund insurgents. They could also use candy as bait as it would likely be picked up by children who intended to give it to insurgents as treats. Better to get them before they are old enough to carry a rifle anyway.

It is just this sort of program that will endear ourselves to the Iraqis forever.

Somebody pointed out that someone could pick this stuff up for fear that a child might come across it and harm themselves but that just seems “logical” and thus I choose to ignore it.

RWNJIFG

By rushncap

September 24, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Paul — your Hillary comment is exactly why I will not vote for her during the primaries. If she is the Democratic nominee I’ll have to choice but to vote for her, of course, but not before. However, and you have to realize this fact, Congress was also presented “processed” intelligence by the White House. So while this still does not excuse her obvious political cowardice in casting a Yea vote for the war, it at least mitigates it a touch. Still, she is a quintessential politician, and I’m sure she felt at the time that a “yes” vote gains her more politically. And I can’t stand that.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Of course not duh.

I looked at the reasons w gave to invade Iraq that all turned out not to be true and come to the conclusion like Greenspan and others, it is the oil stupid.

As a real Christian and American, I see this as dead wrong and chose the path of dissent for when they ask me at the pearly gates if I supported this genocide I will say no.

I will be in heaven while you burn in hell.

Did that answer your question?

By Anchors

September 24, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

It’s amazing how sophisticated Greenspan seemed when nobody could understand a word he said. He seems like a hack now. Could Greenspan just be the best spinner in econo-history? I thought his phrasing was peculiarly codicilic. He formed language touchstones and placed them on both sides of an analysis, allowing either side to proceed cautiously.

Greenspan was a showman.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

RWNJIFG

Just add that to the long list of war crimes and since our country has lost its morals and will not prosecute for Iraqi hunting, the Hague will.

The wingnuts love crap like that and call themselves Christians.

I call them anti- Christians who worship evil and the devil.

Right duh?

Answer that question coward.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

Freedom from religious tyranny in Iraq? I’m sorry, everything I read in the librul media said that Iraq was a secular country under Saddam and that he had a Christian, Tariq Aziz, as a very prominent member of his Cabinet.

I gues my choices are: 1) Luck is a complete idiot or 2) Tariq Aziz doesn’t exist. Let me see. I’m gonna go with 2. The librul media must have just made him up.

It is amazing that the librul media tells us that Iran is a religious tryanny and Afghanistan was one under the Taliban but they never said that about Iraq. Come to think about it neither did Bush, or Cheney, or Wolfowitz, or Bill Kristol, or Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.

Maybe this librul media thing is more powerful than I thought. Or maybe I was right with #1, that Luck is a complete and utter idiot.

RWNJIFG

By RW-(the original)

September 24, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

ITN,

I’m just typing the truth, bud. If you take that as an insult it certainly explains a lot.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

RW

Funny, brother, that’s all I type too.

The truth.

Like telling you what a rotten human being you are.

The truth.

By Anchors

September 24, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Lets all take a look at getalife’s last post. He employs the circular logic of a hack when he criticizes christianity with christianity, (christianity squared.)

He’s starting to write apocalyptically. He’s adapted, along with everyone else, tones set by a blogger named analchord who totally rules this forum and Wooten”s. What ever this Analchord character writes, no matter how nuances or hidden in traffic, every single writer on this blog does variations on in some evolving blog-vignette. viva vignette. Watch the reactions of the hoards of easily-manipulated, hero-worshipping yes men and copycats as they try to take over der verld. (I meant the world. I’m not a renegade nazi, I dont know why I said ‘der verld’. Completely ignore that non-freudian slip.)

By getalife

September 24, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

“It’s been about oil for a long time:

We’ve already supported coups, sent armies and invaded at least one country to protect our access to petroleum. In his newly published memoirs, Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve, put that uncomfortable truth front and center.”

Just buy the freaking oil.

Duh.

By AmVet

September 24, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul.

Agreed, that ON THE SURFACE, Romney’s lambasting the GOP is smart. Many will see it as shallow, but smart.

But one must ask themselves, “Is this is the guy who can fundamentally change that party?”

And let’s face it, the GOP is going to have to change in BIG ways to get much credibility back.

He offered very, very few specifics but played it safe with vague references to corruption, spending, etc.

And as the campaign progresses, to remain a viable candidate, it would seem he will drift more to those polarizing right wing views and move away from his previous more moderate, centrist positions.

So we’ll see.

And though historically a social moderate, he will almost certainly HAVE to bow to the evangelical “base” and much neo-con pressure to change ALL of his previous views. And that already is a source of consternation for some. (A GOP flip flopper?!)

And conceivably a fiscal conservative as well, (but see the above concern) I sense that he too has developed a Republican go it alone blood lust.

The Armed Forces are incredibly stretched now and that is NOT going to change. The next commander-in-chief cannot be allowed to run these same guys endlessly through the meat grinder like this one is trying to do.

(I have a good friend and co-worker from Memphis who once told me when we were working our tails off, “you can run a GOOD horse into he ground, it doesn’t have to be a bad one.)

The nation IMHO simply can’t take any more chances on these guys.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

“GOP Senator Hagel: “The Republican Party Has Won Two Elections On…Fear And Terrorism…[It’s] Going To Try Again”

Strike three, catering to cowards like duh.

Geez.

By Fiddlepoo

September 24, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Neither of you 2 sponge baths can handle the truth.

The truth. Look at your recent blogging: is 2, is not, is 2, is not, is 2, is not-is2isn’tisisn’tisisn’tisisn’tisisn’t

You’re both part time hacks and full time finger-daubers. But it’s probably the same moron posting to himself with two IP addresses, that is, using his pc and his laptop on different lines, or even the same line with a router, (a roto-router), because what are the odds that there would be two ointment dabs with the exact same syntactical pulse? Zero.

If you’re new to this blog, there are three trolls who write about 90% of the comments both pro and con to and from themselves who themselves can only be described as a trio of drooled-up stool samples.

Ordinary hacks plague every blog sooner or later. It’s a shame.

By Fiddlepoo

September 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

It really is about the oil (and the beer). It doesn’t get any better than this. Less drilling. Tastes great. Less drilling. Tastes great. Less drilling. Tastes great.

That would mean that Bush had intel that Saddam met with China to sell them the oil. The diplomatic route Saddam used was via the old tribal liasons that extend from the meso to the yalu. That’s how our intel picked it up, the west had planted spies along the old trade routes centuries ago. We are talking old here, folks. (Ah, it’s so old that osama’s got liver spots on his teeth).

So, if china had designs on Iraq’s oil, then do we go to war at the source so we dont have to fight the chinese in china? Yes, Bush made a correct decision. I dont want to fight the chinese for oil. That’s where I put my foot down, but, I will fight against a young pseudo-country left behind by churchill. That’s seems a small compromise of the prime directive: to never interfere with established populations on our 5 year mission through the cosmos on starship earth.

Remember, the terrorists are religious on their Left side, the Americans are religious on their Right.

By Fiddlepoo

September 24, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Gads that was good. Wow. Homerun. The your-momma slam dunk. in your face, girlfried, talk to the hand, stan.

I want to know who wrote, “It’s the economy, stupid”, which is the slogan of a lifetime. I wonder if it was hacked and the hacker is now with moveon. That would explain the past gaffs. Democrats certainly lost elections, if the Republicans didn’t win them.

Democrats just cant spin correct. They cant, cause they’re Generally HacksRUs.

By Fiddlepoo

September 24, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Message to Moveon: “Dont sway us.”

By Fiddlepoo

September 24, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Message to Moveon: Say Us, dont Spray US.

or

Sway us dont spray us. (awful, but on porpoise)

Message from Bumper-sticker fishies for christianity on the backs of cars: The Fisherman has a porpoise 4U.

By Hey Fiddlepoo

September 24, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Message to you

You’ve been spayed.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Here is your bumper sticker:

Blackwater = oil.

How bout this one:

“Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be “an as-s-kissing little chickensh-it” and added, “I hate people like that”. Move on chickensh-its.

Bwa.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Here are some more:

“Thou shall not kill” for oil.

“wingnuts are not real Christians”.

“Get your Religion out of my politics”

And finally,

“Geez”

By getalife

September 24, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

“Religion kills not meth”, one for “time for the meth”.

One for PF:

“Not the funniest comic standing”

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

getalife:

Blackwater doesn’t mean oil. What it means is good stable careers for former military men who’d rather stay “in the s-hit” than go get a desk job. Besides they get paid a helluva lot more than Uncle Sam pays. What this means is that we can pay this paramilitary force to provide security when we are short of men in the all-volunteer Army. Eventually, it will mean that they will become the federal police force in order to protect us from threats such as the ACLU, Move On, other libs and trouble makers. When we scare the hell out of enough people they’ll being standing behind that student in FL and believe me, he’d love the taser compared to what these guys will do to him. Once we have Blackwater personnel patrolling the streets monitoring un-American activities and other threats both real and imagined we will all be safe and secure.

Blackwater doesn’t mean “oil” it means “freedom.”

I think they need a new name: General Enforcement Staff for Tactical And Police Operations. G.E.S.T.A.P.O. for short.

RWNJIFG

By getalife

September 24, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG ,

Yes, Saddam had his own blackwater.

Nuff said.

By Luckoduh

September 24, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 24, 2007 10:55 AM I will be in heaven while you burn in hell.}}}}

Geez, look at the similarities:

{{{{Because the Prophet Mohammed had no ice cubes, neither should today’s Iraqis, Al Qaeda totalitarians declared as they threatened ice merchants with death. Al-Dora ice dealer Akram al-Zidawi, 19, shrugged off these warnings. “Two weeks ago he came back home saying he had been threatened by terrorists,” al-Zidawi’s brother, Gassan, told the Telegraph. “My mother begged him to quit the job, but he laughed. He thought it was impossible they would kill him. But they came back two days later and shot him dead, along with three other ice sellers nearby.”}}}}

See what I mean about this getalife being a jihadist, going around telling everyone how “righteous” he is and damning everybody else to “hell.”

So when does al-Gitmo start “enforcing” his insane version of religion?

And think about this, who sounds so much like Has Bin Laden with all of his anti American prop, or should I say does Has Bin sound like al-Gitmo?

Two peas in a pod.

By Maude

September 24, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Well, look what Maude has stumbled upon. A little blog right here. Will have to study it a day or 2 and figure out the goods and the bads. Oh my goodness!

By getalife

September 24, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

OBL was given amnesty duh.

I refer to Greenspan on Iraq from INT:

“Greenspan: Because Of Oil, Saddam Was ‘Far More Important To Get Out Than Bin Laden”

I am watching the Jewish college students protesting the freedom of speech at Columbia and wonder, why in the hell are they not serving in Iraq?

The are duh cowards.

By RE

September 24, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Somebody mentioned Bill Maher earlier, I caught that show and was amazed by Michael Scheuer who was one of the video guests.

He had the audacity to say that protecting Israel is not worth american sacrifice. Imagine if the US focused on protecting US citizens instead of protecting Israel.

I will say it again, Israel is not an ally, it is a dependent nation. The amount of influence in our government of the israel lobby is frightening, how is it that so many of our western and central asian decisions are determined by what is good for Israel.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Geez, that wingnut is preaching at Columbia.

They protested a preacher. A preacher for peace.

Geez.

By Needles

September 24, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

If Moveon wrote for Iranian dissidents:

Emir Beschmear us.

Shied Shortsheet us.

Caliph, clobber us.

By Needles

September 24, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

If moveon wrote for iranian dissidents:

Emir beschmear us.

Mullah maul us.

Shiek short-sheet us.

Caliph clobber us.

By Fly-on-the-wall

September 24, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Can someone please explain this thing with the MoveOn.org cost for their ad? I’m afraid that I’m lost on the details. I’ve been busy with other things the last few days.

By Needles

September 24, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

If sir wipesalot (getalife) wrote for moveon.org:

Shame us, shave us.

Scratch us, itch us.

Sackus, ball us.

Hole us, finger us.

beewaaaaaah!

By Goldie

September 24, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

{{So yes, the defenders of the ad price is okay. Pres Bush repeated Iraq had WMDs. They didn’t. He was labeled a liar. Defenders of the greatly discounted ad price said it was proper.}}

Paul— you’re conflating apples and oranges, just like you always do!

Not only was Bush called a liar about WMDs, but there’s an litany of what his administration has lied about — such as “no doubt” about Saddam Hussein planning a nuclear attack on America, when there was PLENTY OF DOUBT that he was planning an attack… do you want more examples of his lies???

Also, your circular logic once again is making no sense in trying to equate the NY Times ad rate with Bush’s lies — there’s an article from the Times sales staff explaining the ad rate, but then you prefer to read the Wash. Times, don’t you, so that would explain why you’re still trying to do your “conflating” again today:

Catherine J. Mathis, a spokeswoman for The New York Times Company, said the advertising department does not base its rates on political content. She also said the department does not disclose the rates it charges for individual advertisements. But she did say that “similar types of ads are priced in the same way.” She said the department charges advocacy groups $64,575 for full-page, black-and-white advertisements that run on a “standby” basis, meaning an advertiser can request a specific day and placement but is not guaranteed them.

Maybe if you’d do a little more research before your daily “conflating”, you’d look like less of a right-wingnut hack…

By getalife

September 24, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Who knew there are Jews in Iran but no homosexuals (got booed for that).

Learn something weird everyday.

He does not deny the Holocaust but wants to know why the Palestinian people are punished for it. He wants more research to answer that question.

Great to hear his propaganda but I do not trust him or our government.

By Goldie

September 24, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Fly @ 3:29 — look at the NYT link ^^^ I posted for Paul’s reference above… there’s a lot of blowhards ranting on and on about that stupid ad and the rate that Move-On paid for the Petreaus ad, when they gave the same rate to Rudy when he paid for his “rebuttal” ad… and the rate they were given is explained in the link above.

Right-wingnuts love to rant and rave about ad rates, because they certainly don’t want to discuss why we’re still stuck in Iraq GOING ON 5 YEARS NOW!

By Can't Resist

September 24, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Don’t Mention Iraq Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD Talk about the AD

Typical administration nonsense.

And woe be to the democrats who voted to condemn the ad….

By rushncap

September 24, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

The right does not seem to mind that Fox gives tons and tons of free advertising to right-wing groups/causes. But a (false) accusation of slight lowering of rates by NYT for a left-wing group sends them into a apoplectic tizzy. Mommy, what’s a “double standard”?

By Needles

September 24, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

We all knew that getalife was a homosexual, but not a jew?

bwa

moron.

By RE

September 24, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Here is a little example of how to be dishonest without lying.

Statment:

Andy needs to be locked up and never let out into society. We would not want to see another child abused in our city.

No lies in the above statement, just two opinons following each other. And I never said Andy abuses children, therfore I did not lie. Administration statements about the threat of Iraq are very similar to this kind of juxtoposition, but not lies.

By Senator Craig

September 24, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

“We don’t have homosexuals”

Sounds like a Rev Haggard sermon.

Or maybe one of them moral Republicans.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

PF,

You know I ♥ the ladies.

Stop hitting on me freak.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Can you find this anywhere else?

WAR NEWS FOR TODAY

The NATO ISAF website has confirmed the death of an ISAF servicemember killed by small-arms fire in Afghanistan on Sunday, September 22nd. As usual, no further information was given at this time.

Security incidents:

Baghdad:

1: Higher Education Minister Abd Dhiab Ajaili survived an assassination attempt as he returned to Baghdad from Tikrit, police said. Ajaili was unhurt but two of his bodyguards were killed when a roadside bomb exploded near his convoy and insurgents then opened fire. 2: Gunmen killed Jawad al-Daami, a journalist for Baghdadiya television, on Sunday in al-Qadissiya district of southwestern Baghdad, an Iraqi journalists’ association said. 3: Police found 10 unidentified dead bodies in the following neighborhoods in Baghdad: ( 6) were found in west Baghdad(Karkh bank) ; 2 in Shoala , 2 in Mahmoudiyah , 2 in Amil and 1 in Bayaa. While( 3 ) were found in east Baghdad ( Risafa bank) ; 2 in Sadr city and 1 in Ur. 4: Two mortar rounds fell in the Green Zone at 08:00 this morning, said Iraqi Police. No casualties were reported. 5: 2 children were killed and their parents injured when a mortar round fell on their home in Talbiyah at around 09:00 am. 6: Gunmen opened fire upon a coaster bus returning Rafidain Bank employees to their homes. 1 female was killed and another injured.

Other Provinces continued here

By Needles

September 24, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Scenes we’d like to see:

One day at the airport outhouse in Tehran: Camera to a towelhead sitting on the crapper in a stall next to another towelhead, in the adjacent stall. Aminejahad’s speech is playing over a loud speaker, and it comes to the part where he claims there are no homosexuals in Iran. The one towel head lights his shoe and starts tapping his lit shoe. The other towel head pulls off his shirt revealing a bombvest and starts circling the grenade pins pierced to his nipples with his fingers……camera fades…..

By Doomsday is coming: Friday Oct 5,2007

September 24, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

On that day, Doom will “nominate” the top blogger on Luckovich for 2007. I will also “nominate” the biggest idiot for 2007.

Doom

By New name for Friends of Doom

September 24, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Doom has decided to give his friends a name. From now on the friends of Doom will be known as the Legion of Doom.

The Legion of Doom includes: 1.@@ 2.Paul 3.Bosch 4.Duh for Democrats and 5. Steve-0

By bj in ky

September 24, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Re: Paul @8:53 a.m.

It’s hardly news that Hillary Clinton won’t take a stance against the war. She is, and always has been, a political opportunist who wants it all ways. If her comments convince centrists and those who lean slightly to the right that she may be worth voting for, it’s to their shame. Many of us find the prospect of four more years of Repubicon administration beyond sickening, but that’s hardly a blanket endorsement of the Dems currently running. I still see Al Gore watching from the tall grass. He has said he feels no compunction to support Clinton despite his ties to her hubby. And he has not ruled out a run. He has plenty of time, plenty of supporters, plenty of record on which to stand without having to slog through the mud. And he won the popular election once already. Clinton is morally bankrupt; Obama’s time has yet to come. The more they say, the less they have to offer.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Notice:

On Friday Oct. 5th, 2007 I will print off Doom’s “nominees” and micturate on them.

RWNJIFG

By Right wing blow job needs to getalife

September 24, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

RWBJIFG,

You certainly will not be nominated. At least not for top blogger. You will be nominated for top blower if you know what I mean.

Doom

By Needles

September 24, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Jena is a photo op for the USA in the war on terror. Only which side are we on? A noose would terrorize me. Imagine if Osama Bin Laden held up a noose and said, “Convert or you get the noose”.

I wonder what kind of rope-a-dope muslim Mohammed Ali would shuffle out with about that? Hope he doesn’t get clay feet.

Osama, we did convert to Islam. Many americans converted. So stfu and surrender, you horrid troll.

Osama bin laden blogs, no question about that and he’s already trolling bloggs, the dirty rat.

I gotta real problem with that Osama bin Laden.

By Luckoduh

September 24, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE September 24, 2007 3:49 PM Here is a little example of how to be dishonest without lying. Statment: Andy needs to be locked up and never let out into society. We would not want to see another child abused in our city. Administration statements about the threat of Iraq are very similar to this kind of juxtoposition, but not lies.}}}}

In honor of the “Fairness Doctrine” allow me to present the other side of this discussion subject, that being the way the Klintoons would lie to their slack jawed, beady eyed admirers:

“RE, I too feel your extreme obsessed paranoia of the American Defense Department and I can also relate to your oblivious stupidity, as I am also mired in ignorance.”

“I got an idea, instead of offering solutions for these problems of ours, or altering our behavior for the better, or even perhaps assisting our government instead of sucking off of it like some giant parasite, hahaha, yeah right, no, let’s make up some stupid slogan like ‘General Betray Us’ and we’ll ankle bite the Republicans from the safety of our nutroot sidelines.”

“We’ll call it the ‘Vast National Security Conspiracy,’ duh.”

Hey, you know what, that would be the Klintoons being honest.

Oh, whatever.

By Hey Doom

September 24, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Can I join the legume of Doom?

And wear an official “beanie”?

Don’t string me along now!

By Doom hates Columbia University

September 24, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Columbia should be reduced to Special Ed status. Why they would give a mongrel like “I’vebeenafag” a platform is beyond me.

Doom

By RE

September 24, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Andy

Cut back on the oxys, you are sounding more confused than usual.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

doomed,

Don’t bother, we know you are the biggest idiot on this blog.

moron.

By IN THE NEWS

September 24, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Bush, the Bomb and Iran

{{{The parallels between now and the run-up to the Iraq War are troubling. Nobel Peace Prize-winner Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei, the Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), who warned the Bush administration in 2003 about the lack of a nuclear program in Iraq and was subsequently attacked for his position by the Bush machine, the neocons and by many in the mainstream media, has now struck a deal with Iran to answer questions about its nuclear program within a defined timeline and improve access for inspectors. ElBaradei has called for a “double time-out” of all enrichment activities and new sanctions.

The result of ElBaradei’s attempt to shed light on Iran’s nuclear program? More attacks by the Bush administration. More outright hit jobs like this one from the Washington Post, or even the more subtle shading by the New York Times that ultimately portrays ElBaradei as a dictatorial loon. The result is, once again, an amplifying of the Administration’s drumbeat calling for war.}}}}

By Hey Doom

September 24, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Gotta disagree with you on Columbia….

They deserve a medal.

Did you read the introduction he got?

Did you read his statement?

Universities are supposed to provoke discussion and they sure did.

But in case you were worried…. nobody likes him still!

When we refuse to allow the opposition a voice WE ARE NO LONGER A DEMOCRACY.

Course, you are all about a

DOOMOCRACY!

By getalife is gayer than Richard Simmons

September 24, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

I see that the a$$ whipping I applied to you Saturday wasn’t enough. Very well. I, do not feel like defeating you again today, its getting old. Doom has already run Buy Danish away from this blog and its about time you left to. Give it up before its to late.

Doom

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Right Wing Blog Job????

Who do you think I am, Republican Sen. Larry Craig? Or do you think I’m Republican State Rep. Bob Allen? Or do you think I’m Mark Foley? Maybe you think I’m Ken Mehlman? How about Jeff Gannon? Maybe Sheppard Smith?

There are a lot of Right Wingers out there who are willing to blow someone so I can understand the confusion. You can’t hardly meet a winger anymore without being propositioned for some gay sex in a public bathroom. Sometimes these wingers are clever and accuse people of giving blow jobs just to see if you are willing to engage in such behavior. People like Doom do that. He has such need to for someone to give him a good facial that he trolls this blog for some good GOP gay sex.

Doom, the answer is no. I’m somewhat new to being a republican so I’m not ready for that hot gay sex you need. You’ll have to give me some time. I’ll keep your offer in mind though.

RWNJIFG

By getalife

September 24, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

doomed,

I am sure you are a Richard Simmons fan, probably dress like him but BD cut and ran because her arguments were pathetic as duh’s.

You had nothing to do with it and should follow her lead.

Loser.

By To the liberal cancer that likes what Columbia did

September 24, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Being a democracry has nothing to do with allowing a foreign sworn enemy to come over hear and speak his mind in a public forum you dope! Would you want to hear from Bin Laden too? Democracy doesn’t mean do whatever the f^ck you want and then just move on! We have a right to protect our citizens, which includes not giving a platform to a government leader who would kill all of those citizens if he had the chance. You’re a dumba$$!

Doom

By Lost And Found

September 24, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Has anyone seen Hillary Clinton’s lower torso lately, from the pictures I’ve seen in the mainstream media, she seems to have lost it.

Please keep an eye out for it, it is not too hard to recognize, it is a big fat as-s with two stubby little legs attached to it.

If you should happen upon it, please return to the United States Congress, care of MoveOn.org.

Do not, under any circumstances, send it to Bill!

It’s a long story but let’s just say he doesn’t, uh, need it.

Thanks for your cooperation.

By To Right-wing bow job in full glory

September 24, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

HaHaHa! Doom finally got you to stop pretending to be somethng you’re not. Go home and f^ck your dog you fake a$$ liberal b!tch.

Doom

By getalife

September 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

That speech probably stopped war with Iran.

It is called freedom of speech, that many Americans have died for.

Deal with it whiners.

Geez.

By RE

September 24, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

Doom revealed

By They died for our freedom of speech not everyone else's

September 24, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Doom would like to see you go to Tehran and give a speech on whats wrong with their f^cking country. See what happens to you. Americans did not die so that some pi$$ ant dictator who wants us dead can come over here and shout his mouth off about what’s wrong with us. He can do that when there are a lot of Iranians dyin for it. Until then, him, you, and the rest of you anti-american bottle suckers can kiss the a$$ of Doom and the United States of America.

Doom

By RE

September 24, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Sorry about that picture, I couldn’t resist. Its just that you never give me the attention you give everyone else. I’m smart, not dumb, I’m smart and I want respect! R-e-s-p-e-c-t, find out what it means to me, r-e-s-p-e-c-t, why don’t you talk to me?

By Needles

September 24, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Scenes we’d all like 2C:

In a Tehran Airport Outhouse, a towelhead sits in a stall next to another towelhead in the adjacent stall. Aminejihad’s speech is booming over those obnoxious loudspeakers. When he gets to the part about no homosexuals in Iran, the one towelhead lights his shoe and starts tapping his lit shoe. The other towelhead takes off his shirt and starts circling his grenade pin pierced nipples, (grenades attached), with his fingers…….

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Doom,

I bet you talk dirty to all the boys, don’t you?

BTW that was a horrible thing to say about your mom. I know she’s my b-itch, but you don’t have to call her a dog. I mean, I know she’s ugly and all, but you really didn’t have to go there. I’ll still do as you say as she, like you, really LOVES the c—k!

RWNJIFG

By RE

September 24, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Doom,

You are my first source to go to whenever I need information or informed opinion on Pokeman, comic books, or questions such as; who would win, green lantern or Flash.

Aside from that, you don’t have much to offer.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 24, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Look dude, let’s let bygones be bygones. I’m obviously way out of your league and there’s no sense in continuing this fight. It is true, I am gay. I was hoping that you were too so that we could get together because I getting a little tired of getalife. He just doesn’t do it for me anymore, at least not like he used to. Whenever I want to 69 with him, he just rolls over and goes to sleep. I need a real man in my life and getalife just isn’t cutting it anymore.

RWNJIFG

By Betty

September 24, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish was the best poster here. Buy Far. Its too bad you people had to kick out the only intellect on this blog. I know @@ and Dusty do their darndest but well you know what I’m getting at.

I hope you all are pleased. Have fun swimming in your great big pile of poo.

We miss you Buy Danish. Unfreaking believable, you truly are gone. Come back, we miss you.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Only a moron like doomed and duh will believe our government without proof.

They accuse Iran like they did Iraq idiots.

Where is the proof?

There is none.

By Doom is not offering you anything

September 24, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

That’s funny coming from a person who uses a prefix for a name. Get back to me when you get a name loser!

Doom

By Doom is leaving this blog

September 24, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

If anyone posts under my name it is not Doom.

Doom

By Needles

September 24, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

Scenes we all wish we could write:

At a Tehran Airport Outhouse, two towelheads are seated in adjacent stalls when Aminijihad’s speech about no homosexuals in Iran comes on the loudspeakers. One towel head lights his shoe and starts tapping his lit shoe. The other towelhead takes off his shirt and starts circling his grenade-pin pierced nipples (grenades attached) with his fingers……

bwa

By getalife

September 24, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

725 million wasted a day in Iraq.

Pathetic like Betty.

Geez.

By RE

September 24, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Funny, the kid name jacks a few times and then warns about name jacking. Kinda ironic

By Mad As Zell (make Ahmadinejad eat a plate full of bacon)

September 24, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

“The Evil Has Landed” as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits New York City with a stop at the United Nations for a “speech” (more like pep talk to the other totalitarian scumbags at the UN), a stop for a “free speech lecture” to the CRACK and METH SMOKING ANTI-AMERICAN SO-CALLED “ACADEMIC” PACIFIST COMMUNIST PINKO TRAITOR CROWD at Columbia University (this from a leader of a nation where free speech is routinely answered with torture and a beheading), a SORDID request for a visit to Ground Zero (to propagate some good-ol’ fashioned ISLAMAFACIST SMUT TERRORIST PROPAGANDA) and an “interview” on 60 Minutes to spew non-truths and dangerous lies and yet more ISLAMAFACIST propaganda to a hungry audience of murderers and bedwetting liberal pacifists.

Ahmadinejad is MASS-MURDERER and a BALD-FACE LIER who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw him. Of course, I could always throw that little POISONED-PILL SLIMEBALL UNDER A BUS, IN FRONT OF A SPEEDING TRAIN, OVER THE SIDE OF A BRIDGE OR OFF THE TOP OF A NEW YORK SKYSCRAPER (I got your Ground Zero for you, you dirty little slimeball scumbag murderous piece of sh—), but that wouldn’t change anything I still wouldn’t trust that slimeball/scumbag excuse of a so-called “Iranian President” that has the nerve to show his face and his little demonic black-hearted soul in New York City, much less show his evil face on American soil.

This Persian Nut-job should be undergoing torture at Guantanimo Bay while awaiting trial and subsequent execution on mass-murder charges, not doing a lecture circuit and interviews in New York City like some sort of sordid facist cerebrity. Ahmadinejad’s only television exposure should be an internationally-televised public execution. Since he likes supplying mortars to use on American troops we should make him a mortar…with his own public beheading.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an anti-Semitic, anti-American, Islamafacist Mass-Murderer who is responsible for the kidnapping and torture of thousands of civilians, the murder of almost 3,800 American troops and the maiming and dismemberment of tens-of-thousands more American troops and I DARE ANY OF YOU LITTLE PACIFIST BEDWETTING LIBERAL TRAITORS ON THIS BLOG TO COME TO HIS DEFENSE or the defense of the administration of Columbia University for inviting this little slimeball mass-murdering islamafac

By Mad As Zell (make Ahmadinejad eat a plate full of bacon)

September 24, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

“The Evil Has Landed” as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visits New York City with a stop at the United Nations for a “speech” (more like pep talk to the other totalitarian scumbags at the UN), a stop for a “free speech lecture” to the CRACK and METH SMOKING ANTI-AMERICAN SO-CALLED “ACADEMIC” PACIFIST COMMUNIST PINKO TRAITOR CROWD at Columbia University (this from a leader of a nation where free speech is routinely answered with torture and a beheading), a SORDID request for a visit to Ground Zero (to propagate some good-ol’ fashioned ISLAMAFACIST SMUT TERRORIST PROPAGANDA) and an “interview” on 60 Minutes to spew non-truths and dangerous lies and yet more ISLAMAFACIST propaganda to a hungry audience of murderers and bedwetting liberal pacifists.

Ahmadinejad is MASS-MURDERER and a BALD-FACE LIER who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw him. Of course, I could always throw that little POISONED-PILL SLIMEBALL UNDER A BUS, IN FRONT OF A SPEEDING TRAIN, OVER THE SIDE OF A BRIDGE OR OFF THE TOP OF A NEW YORK SKYSCRAPER (I got your Ground Zero for you, you dirty little slimeball scumbag murderous piece of sh—), but that wouldn’t change anything I still wouldn’t trust that slimeball/scumbag excuse of a so-called “Iranian President” that has the nerve to show his face and his little demonic black-hearted soul in New York City, much less show his evil face on American soil.

This Persian Nut-job should be undergoing torture at Guantanimo Bay while awaiting trial and subsequent execution on mass-murder charges, not doing a lecture circuit and interviews in New York City like some sort of sordid facist cerebrity. Ahmadinejad’s only television exposure should be an internationally-televised public execution. Since he likes supplying mortars to use on American troops we should make him a mortar…with his own public beheading.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an anti-Semitic, anti-American, Islamafacist Mass-Murderer who is responsible for the kidnapping and torture of thousands of civilians, the murder of almost 3,800 American troops and the maiming and dismemberment of tens-of-thousands more American troops and I DARE ANY OF YOU LITTLE PACIFIST BEDWETTING LIBERAL TRAITORS ON THIS BLOG TO COME TO HIS DEFENSE or the defense of the administration of Columbia University for inviting this little slimeball mass-murdering islamafac

By RE

September 24, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Mass Murderer?

Responsible for the deaths of 3800 troops?

What are you talking about?

By getalife

September 24, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Okay, ahmadenijad’s hair is cool, plus, madaszell, i’d rather have him in this country than you anyday, you pos. suck on this: <=3

and stfu, you hack. Stealing material from the limbaugh blog, moron?

Get lost.

By Mad As Zell

September 24, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

For crying loud, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was an active participant in the 1980 kidnapping of American hostages in Iran, the kidnapping that Jimmy Carter was IMPOTENT to handle as President, among other situations. Now why would Columbia University invite a terrorist and known mass-murderer to a lecture series to speak to its students? Was Ahmadinejad their default choice because Hitler, Stalin and Charles Manson wasn’t available? Is this so-called “Ivy League” institution attempting to undermine what little credibility they’ve got left as an academic entity. Why does Ahmadinejad need to be encouraged to speak to anyone in or out of Iran? Haven’t his past words and actons spoken loud enough?

By RE

September 24, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Mass Murder?

By Alexis

September 24, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

Mad As Zell…geez, first off, I think you should calm down. President Bush himself supported Columbia’s invitation to Ahmadinejad to speak, as an educational experience for American students. The fact that we, in America, can open ourselves up to listen to opposing viewpoints, no matter how vile we feel them to be on a personal level, shows that we are an enlightened society. I personally applaud Columbia (as does our Commander In Chief) for inviting him to speak.

By Luckoduh

September 24, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Well, well, if it isn’t a gathering of the modern day Hitler Youth, right here at the Urinal Kartoonist’s blog, go figure:

{{{{By getalife September 24, 2007 3:32 PM He does not deny the Holocaust but wants to know why the Palestinian people are punished for it. He wants more research to answer that question.}}}}

Yes, al-Gitmo, the Jew hater is a lovely specimen of a “human being,” don’t you find him just so adorable?

Just like a Nazi Stooge you are, Gitmo, spewing bile and wretching up lies to cover your beloved’s hate and mindlessness, let me guess, you would like us to surrender to him, no?

This is a fine example of why Bush’s approval rating is so low, he should have had some F.B.I. agents meet this POS at the airport and killed him on the spot.

What we would so terribly wrong with a premature war crimes trial, you know, BEFORE the millions had to needlessly die?

Maybe we could skip over the genocide part this time?

By TW

September 24, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Very funny today listening to the right express dismay over a lack of action surrounding Ahmadinejad. Here’s a thought, a*******clowns, maybe, just maybe, your beloved commander in chief couldn’t care less? OMG - wouldn’t that be something? If it was all about the money all along and he played your single lobed brains for all the patriotism they were worth? Nah, that didn’t happen. No way something like that could happen to geniuses like y’all….

By RE

September 24, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

OK wingnuts, you are almost there. The Ahmadinijad talking points are very similar, just keep up the rage. Now try to find some way of claiming you are not supporting the troops if you don’t attack Iran. I know pesky little details like that the foriegn fighters are coming from saudi arabia, and the weapons are being sold on the black market by ->blackwater<- contractors might get in the way, but keep pushing. Soon we will have another war without strategy or victory conditions to fight with other peoples kids, and of course we will need a tax cut to pay for it.

Wingnut mindset, doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Yeehaw, sad as hell is here.

Where is soda pants?

Loony toons.

duh,

I heard Pat Buchanan say he had a point about his nuclear program.

Shocking I know but his speech stopped another war and I know you and zell hate that.

Poor little warmongers, ya’ll could war on each other and we will cheer it on.

Cowards.

By Mad As Zell

September 24, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Alexis: Well if George Bush says it’s alright, then it must be okay, right? Alexis, are you serious? Bush may have his heart in the right place in regards to the War on Terror, but for the better part of four years his brain was nowhere to be found. Just the fact that Bush said it was okay for Ahmadinemcnut to come to New York to speak to American college students should tell you that its anything but okay. Bush should be concentrating on preparing competent war plans to bomb Ahmadinejad’s nuclear program back into the Prehistoric Age where most of Islamic society already resides, not encouraging little Hitler wannabes to come spew lies on American soil for international media face time.

By Explaining Wooten

September 24, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Bush is our greatest prez.

By bj in ky

September 24, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Mad As Zell,

I am not a bed-wetting liberal traitor, so I am not sure you want my response to your rant. Oh well. Iran should be nervous. The Iraqis are learning the hard way that when the U.S. goes into a country promoting democracy and freedom, we want it on our own terms. Iran — whether you like the country or not, and I don’t — is looking out for itself. Its leader, a certified scumbag, comes to the home of democracy and gets a chance to say his piece. He’s pretty sure that had we not screwed the pooch so badly in Iraq, we’d have long ago come pouring over the border on a mission to ‘liberate’ his country. It still may happen; KBR may need to boost profits. He does not want war with the U.S. or its allies. Let him talk. It costs us nothing to listen, and as he did at Columbia today he is forced to defend beliefs that even the most pig-headed and ignorant know are just wrong. I believe this comes from The Art of War, correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s prudent to keep your friends close and enemies closer. His speech was an act of fear, devoid of threat. Allowing him to make it is an example of what separates us from them.

By A moderate voice

September 24, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Let me just say that life is not black and white. Those who dislike Bush should not automatically find a friend in the Iranian President. I frankly find that disgusting. I don’t much care for Bush either, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to be supportive of people who would like to wipe us off the face of the earth. While, I think Iran’s ability to pose such a threat is very overblown, I don’t doubt for a second that they would prefer a world without us and would kill us all if given the chance. They are very much like Muslim Luckoduh’s whose answer to everything is to kill everybody. Yeah, think about it. A nation ran by people like Luck. It is a little scary ain’t it?

The truth is that there is a battle of ideas going on and unless you want to be in a position of killing or subjugating almost 6 billion people you need to find a way of winning the worldwide PR battle. We have given Iran way to much of an advantage in that battle through incompetence, stupidity, fear mongering etc…

Further, while it may play well on Fox News or the Rush Limbaugh show to criticize Columbia Univ., their lack of fear of him or his words and then telling him the truth to his face is far braver than insisting that he be silenced. The rationale of the free speech clause is that light is the best disinfectant and while Mahmood has no First Amendment Rights per se, the wisdom of the founders holds as true today as it did then. We should never fear words and ideas, but we should very much fear those who want to keep us from them.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Goldie 3:30

Alas, you’re a day late and a dollar short.

There was no attempt to equate WMDs with the NYTimes ad rate. The discussion was about the use of the word “liar.” The question was based upon the assertion some here made that, intent or not, if the information stated is later found to be false, the person (Pres) is a liar. I merely asked, if that’s the standard, if the defenders of the NY Times ad are also liars.

You see, the item you cited was an early cite many relied upon. Sunday (yesterday) a NY Times editor found (the story I cited as a basis) that the earlier explanation given by the NY Times and cited by others was “incorrect.”

Also, if you’d read the link, you’d find from the transcript that on Meet the Press, Hillary said she thought Saddam had WMDs. At the time of the invasion.

Golly, you’re not going to have anybody left to vote for!

your 3:35

Slow down, there, get the chronology and the sequence correct. The NY Times said it shouldn’t have published the ad because it violated NY Times standards. MoveOn’s paid the difference (did you know that?). Rudy’s ad was not in that category.

Better luck next time -

By Paul

September 24, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Goldie

BTW, Hillary also said she condemned the ad and MoveOn shouldn’t run any more such ads.

I guess you can always vote for Kucinich -

By getalife

September 24, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

sad as hell,

How is that Iraq occupation for oil working out for ya?

Two occupations not enough for ya bloodsucker?

By bj in ky

September 24, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Duh,

Once again, if you don’t like it then kill it. Just make sure the gun’s in someone else’s hands. What a mindless punk you must be. Your idea of a great country is not so far from that of the Iranian leaders. Once again, just pitiful.

By Explaining Wooten

September 24, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Bush Tush Us.

By getalife

September 24, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

I did not hear her condemn the ad Paul.

Got a link?

The Times has moved on from this gop distraction so follow their lead.

Geez.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

bj in ky 4:21

Well said.

I’d rather a candidate state what they think, and why, then pander. They get so twisted the resemble pretzels.

By By Duh moderate voice

September 24, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Let me just say that life is not black and white. Those who dislike Roosevelt should not automatically find a friend in the German Fuhrer. I frankly find that disgusting. I don’t much care for Roosevelt either, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to be supportive of people who would like to wipe us off the face of the earth. While, I think Germany’s ability to pose such a threat is very overblown, I don’t doubt for a second that they would prefer a world without us and would kill us all if given the chance. They are very much like Nazi Luckoduh’s whose answer to everything is to kill everybody. Yeah, think about it. A nation ran by people like Luck. It is a little scary ain’t it?

The truth is that there is a battle of ideas going on and unless you want to be in a position of killing or subjugating almost 6 billion people you need to find a way of winning the worldwide PR battle. We have given German way to much of an advantage in that battle through incompetence, stupidity, fear mongering etc…

Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, sure thing, there are six billion extremists that need to be killed, yes, that is the purest definition of “neocon.”

That’s why we left so many alive in Iraq and just killed the terrorists, duh.

Freaking duh.

By Paul

September 24, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

getalife

from my link at 8:53

MR. RUSSERT: Is it fair to—(clears throat) excuse me—is it fair to say, then, that this ad was an unhelpful distraction to the real debate about the war, and you wish that MoveOn.org had not taken it?

SEN. CLINTON: Well, when I voted for Senator Boxer’s resolution, that was certainly clear. I do not condone, and I do condemn any effort to impugn the patriotism and the service of anyone who’s worn the uniform of our country. I think it should be across the board because, as you certainly know well, many people who have served with distinction, like Senator Kerry or Senator Cleland, have been the subject of extraordinary attacks. Let’s end this, and let’s focus on what we do to support our troops. I believe the best way to support our troops is to begin to bring them home.

MR. RUSSERT: And MoveOn.org should refrain from similar ads in the future?

SEN. CLINTON: Everyone should, Tim. Everyone should.

By Mad As Zell

September 24, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this

Alexis: The only “educational experience” American students should be getting, in regards to Ahmadinejad should be getting to using him for target practice in an American shooting gallery.

By Explaining Wooten

September 24, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

There is a battle of ideas. However, this same battle over the same ideas have been fought for 10K years.

Next.

By A moderate voice

September 24, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

Comparing the capacity of Iran to Nazi Germany is an insult to history and commom sense. Is Iran a threat? Yes. Should it be contained? Yes. Did Bush’s invasion of Iraq do just the opposite? Yes.

The threat that Germany posed was through its significant military that was capable of blowing through Europe with relative ease. Iran fought Iraq for 8 years to stalemate and they aren’t much stronger now. The real threat posed by Iran is that we have alienated people to the point that some have found it rational to be their friends rather than ours. That is much more dangerous to us long term than anything they can do militarily. So if you are asking people on the streets of Africa or South America or Central America or Eastern Europe, who do you fear more/trust less, the Americans or Iranians I guarantee you that the answer would frighten you and that those answers would have been far different on 9/11/01. Until we as a country come to grips with the fact that we are trying to win a battle of ideology that is predicated much more on diplomacy than force we will continue to lose ground.

The answer isn’t to indimidate or to kill or to threaten. The answer is to be what Reagan described as the “shining city on the hill” that serves as an example of what freedom and democracy can be. Now there are some here that aren’t for freedom or democracy, like LuckoDuh, and there will always be people in the world who enjoy the safety of an authoritarian regime, like LuckoDuh, but for most of us the only thing we want is opportunity for success and the freedom to fail without interfernce from either Big Brother or the Mommy State.

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