Mike Luckovich

By Barney (the White House dog)

September 18, 2007 7:20 AM | Link to this

“If I Were An Idiot” by O.J. Simpson with Preface by George W. Bush, Senator Larry Craig and the Republicons. Here’s a small excerpt from O.J. Simpson: So I thought why not murder because no one would ever suspect me, Oranthal James “The Juice” Simpson, a notorious wife beater with an angry temper, of murdering my ex-wife and her boyfriend. Then, if need be, I’ll make my escape in an inconspicuous white Ford Bronco on a crowded LA freeway in the middle of the day during rush hour so as not to draw too much attention from onlookers and TV news cameras in traffic helicopters. Man I am just too damn smart, I should try this murder thing more often because this will like takin’ worthless football cards from my pathetic excuse of a career at gunpoint, or even better takin’ candy from a baby…and stabbin’ an ex-wife and her boyfriend with it”

By Barney (the White House dog)

September 18, 2007 7:43 AM | Link to this

“If I Were An Idiot” by O.J. Simpson, with Preface by George W. Bush, Senator Larry Craig and the Republicons. Here’s a small excerpt from “President” George W. Bush: “What peopel dont no iz that if I wuld have ben Presydent during World War II, I wood half stood up to the threatt from Nazi Germany and Emperiel Japan by having the United States nvade Greenland (to look for cheap oil and WMDs or cheap oil in my WMDs). Heck, if I hade ben Presidnt during WWEII, we’d all be speaking German and Japanese now.”

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

Hey, look, the glove fits.

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So when a group thugs burst into your hotel room, kicking down the door and screaming obscenities, the apologists in the Atlanta Urinal Constitution call it a “standoff?”

{{{{Apparent tape yields details- Simpson heard yelling at standoff-Urinal}}}}

There is no amount of slant that the AJC will forego in pursuit of their agenda, if they make this kind of attempt to diminish the commission of 3 felonies, what kind of spin do they put on their Iraq coverage?

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The Atlanta Urinal Constitution, in cooperation with Al Qaeda, is pleased to bring you the following blessed news:

{{{{The Iraqi government announced Monday it was ordering Blackwater USA, the security firm that protects U.S. diplomats…..The order by the Interior Ministry, if carried out, would deal a severe blow to U.S. government operations in Iraq by stripping diplomats, engineers, reconstruction officials and others of their security protection. Yea!}}}}

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{{{{Enjoying nature —- before we destroy it- Washington has categorically failed to face this threat —- one so great that it makes al-Qaida look like a bunch of jaywalkers.- Urinal}}}}

I could type in a thousand words and it won’t come close to revealing what moonbats you libs are, that this column does.

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{{{{Confirmation may face fight over documents-Urinal}}}}

Well, if we are going to have a “fight” no matter what, let’s bring Olsen back.

And make notice, the AG is part of the executive branch same as the presidency, how can Bush responsible for all of the world’s problems when he can’t even hire his own people without lib interference?

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{{{{Stop junk lawsuits. I’ve heard sad stories from doctors and patients. The doctor who had to close her clinic in her hometown and move across the state to work at a hospital that would pay her rising liability insurance premiums. The head trauma specialist afraid that when he retired, his community in one of the poorest regions in the country couldn’t attract a replacement. The pregnant woman who drove 80 miles from home in Las Vegas to get prenatal care.}}}}

Isn’t it sweet that the libs support trial lawyers and their junk lawsuits, and then turn around and blame the health care system for rising costs?

Talk about having you

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

Cohen takes it to the nutroots and Clintoon:

{{{{It may seem unfair to single out Clinton in this matter when the bunker in which she took shelter was crowded with her fellow quivering candidates. But Clinton is the front-runner, quite possibly the next president of the United States, and so it is reasonable to focus on her and wonder if, as some allege, she indeed does have a spine. In this instance, it was nowhere to be found.}}}}

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Seeing as Electrolux makes vacuum cleaners and washing machines, I’m not sure Al Qaeda could boycott them and have anyone notice. So perhaps they could drive a Volvo bomb into an Ikea and set it off with an Ericsson phone. After all, it’s not as though Al Qaeda could bomb anyone using their own culture’s technological prowess. Suppose a Swedish extremist wanted to threaten the most successful giant companies of the Arab world. What would that list be again? “Submit, or else The Swedish Defense Brigade will strike ‘The Tribe of the Two Sheiks’ brand hummus display down at Kroger!”

Buy Swedish!

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

You are just the funniest guy around Duh!

Teasing about the “You can come out now comment” when you did just that!

It’s not that I think you are afraid of ME, but you are afraid of being called out as the BS artist ( using the term artist loosely) that you are. Does a BS artist wear a BS beret?

It’s easy to cry about being attacked….YOU ARE. All of your trash is.

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. You are any easy target.

Defending Territory? You damn betcha! The Constitution is my territory. Human Rights are my territory. The environment is my territory. What makes you such a phoney, false, evil UN AMERICAN is that you don’t feel the same way.

Could you speak any more condescendingly about the poor in our nation. Wanna rub them out like those million dead Iraqi’s? Man what a heart you got!

Truth feels SOOOOOO good! I think I’ll have another big helping today. And I will force feed it to you!

Best of course was this bull from yesterday……{{{{{And with that, I leave “Hey, I’m Duhm” in the rear view mirror, never to respond to this wretched life form ever again.}}}}}}}

Gotcha!

BTW, Regarding Blackwater…Does Mitt Romney intend to keep Cofer Black in place as his top counter-terrorism advisor after his consulting operation was expelled by the government of Iraq for shooting civilians.

Pray for your soul little man. Without real change in your heart your future is gonna be real warm!

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this

Conservatives: Facts, points of discussion, debate topics, evidence proving thier positions and disproving the position of the liberal democrat, you know, interesting and thought provoking and funny stuff, that no one is forcing you to read:

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrat September 18, 2007 8:04 AM Hey, look, the glove fits.}}}}

Liberals: Babbling, incoherent, paranoid nonsense with zero facts or any reasoning whatsoever:

{{{{By Hey I’m Duhmb September 18, 2007 8:07 AM You are just the funniest guy around Duh!}}}}

And you wonder why I’m a Con, geez.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Duh starts with OJ this morning?

OJ….are you kidding? Is the latest from Britney and Lindsey next?

For a guy who hates the AJC, he sure is here a lot. Does he even know where’s he’s posting? If the AJC reported that a cat was run over on 75N, would that mean they hated cats?

I am proud of Duh a little bit this morning though, questioning W’s AG choice. He got the memo from the Heritage Foundation before the one from the RNC.

And oh yes, a REALLY important issue…..junk lawsuits! Let’s also eliminate Junk. If your kids toys aren’t painted with lead, or you salad is dressed with e.coli No lawsuit!

AND since that whole last Hillary in a bunker ( borrowed Cheney’s???) and al Qaeda at Ikea…..I’d make fun of it if it made some kind of sense.

By Barney (the White House dog)

September 18, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

“If I Were An Idiot” by O.J. Simpson, Preface by Senator Larry Craig and the GOP. Here’s a small excerpt from U.S. Senator Larry Craig of Idaho: “After all these years of taking a “wide stance” in airport public mens restrooms all over the US and Europe while playing “footsie” with strangers during my searches for anonymous gay sex I “came” to the realization that the GOP really stands for Gay Old Party. Forget Bill Clinton, yours truly, Larry “I’m Not Gay and Have Never Been Gay” Craig is the ultimate nasty, naughty bad man. Reminder: Swingin’party tonight at the Honorable Reverend Ted Haggard’s bachelor pad, will meet Florida Rep. Mark Foley there @ 10:15, don’t forget to bring the anonymous gay hookers and the chips and dip…Mark will being a few 16-year-old paiges to pass around and Rev. Ted will bring the coke, meth and playing cards for a game of naked poker later on.”

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Yes Dud… there are some conservobots who post

{{{{Facts, points of discussion, debate topics, evidence proving thier positions}}}}}

HOWEVER you are not among them.

See above post for proof.

{{{{{{GOOBER}}}}}}}}

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By Jesus

September 18, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By It's all about the ratings

September 18, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Sen. Reed’s Democratic Response Beats Bush Speech In Cable Ratings On Fox And CNN

By Is Jack going on the wagon?

September 18, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Cafferty admits to drinking the Kool Aid in the run-up to the Iraq Invasion

By Caller ID

September 18, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Was White House involved in Dem NH phone jamming scandal?

By Gooses and Ganders

September 18, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON, Sept. 17 — Two Senate Democrats warned Monday that the Judiciary Committee would delay confirmation of President Bush’s choice for attorney general unless the White House turned over documents that the panel was seeking for several investigations.

By Goldie

September 18, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

It’s deja vu’ all over again — I can’t believe that we’re still having to deal with OJ’s dramas! I hope he gets locked away from society for many years because he’s obviously very dangerous.

By @@

September 18, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Hey ml, if I were an idiot I’d draw a cartoon about O.J.

I see you’ve come up with a “new couple” for your liberal cartoons.

A fat wife and another submissive husband. Why is that?

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

Even the BBC can’t slant this:

{{{{It could work out that way. But the murder of Sheikh Abu Risha also may backfire. More than 1,500 mourners attended his funeral. Mourners chanted “We will take our revenge,” and “There is no God but Allah and al Qaida is the enemy of Allah,” the BBC reported.}}}}

Hear them footsteps Mookie?

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Check out the liberal response to an open, honest debate is:

Videos of the incident posted on several Web sites show officers pulling Andrew Meyer, 21, away from the microphone after he asks Kerry about impeaching President George W. Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

The “answer” that he recieved was a stomping and electrocution by the local Gestapo officers.

By mm

September 18, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Coming to a bookstore near you:

GWB: How I killed the GOP

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

I was going to congratulate you for FINALLY getting with the program by posting a pice with its source

BUT

then you added YOUR OPINION (must be, no source) about the liberal response.

When you pull stuff out of your butt IT STINKS.

Goober

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Goldie, I’m with you, I wish they would just lock him up so we don’t have to hear about him anymore.

So, his entourage has guns, but he doesn’t, and he just wants to steal back his stuff that was stolen from him? WTF? He probably needed to sell it himself in order to pay for those golf fees and a place to stay.

Sad, sad, sad.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

AND….whose raising his kids?

By Ray Steven could do another song

September 18, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

It was very cute, on the week of the September 11 memorials, to tie the death of your Anbar toy-boy to bin Laden’s Saudi hijackers. But it’s a lie. Yes, there is a group of berserkers who call themselves “Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia.” But they have as much to do with the real Qaeda of bin Laden as a Rolling Stones “tribute” band has to do with Mick Jagger.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Sydney is in her twenties and Justin is 18 or 19 or thereabouts.

By Yep, we are still making a difference

September 18, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Security Took ‘Turn for Worse’ In Southern Iraq, Report Says

By Paul

September 18, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Hello Bosch

Sooner or later, such attitudes and actions catch up. Plus, I imagine the DA’s looking forward to the reputation of “he’s the guy who put OJ away.”

Can’t resist - but as we all know from the Fitzgerald episode, it’s all about justice, right? :)

Thought about you Sunday - we had a visiting priest this Sunday. He’d been out of seminary just over a year and is assigned to a nearby church. He’d entered seminary fresh off a stint as an Army Ranger. Was in Afghanistan with Tillman. Briefly mentioned the Ranger credo - never leave anyone behind - then segued into a very practical sermon - parable of the lost sheep and risking for the one who’s lost or on hard times.

BTW - saw a news piece - Barry Manilow wouldn’t appear on the View as one of the “conservative hosts is too dangerous.” It was followed by a story of a Colorado judge who punishes those who violate the community’s noise ordinance (primarily for playing rap loud in their cars) to listening to… an hour of loud Barry Manilow music! He says he sees few repeat offenders.

Hmmm. I wonder if he’s qualified to be our next Attorney General? :)

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

RW, OH, okay. Yes, I still think of them as kids but that was 13 years ago when their mother died. Thanks.

By Doom's List available at 12:41 and 1:01 yesterday!

September 18, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Doom will not relive the human debauchary that is OJ Simpson. Just because Mike LuckyCharms has come out from under his rock and drew a picture of him doesn’t mean we have to discuss it.

Doom

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul! All our sermons are “practical” none of that “hell fire and damnation, you’re an evil sinner and better get saved or spend an eternity in the flames of eternal hell” stuff.

I needed someone to think of me Sunday, I was lost in Alpharetta surrounded by houses that at first glance I thought were strip malls, but I was wrong.

Okay, Army Ranger serving in Afghanistan to priest, yes, that seems completely natural.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Oh and Paul, Barry would be a better Attorney General than the one we had, he might actualy work for the people instead of being the Presiden’t personal lawyer.

Good morning Doom, now that we’re friends, I feel compelled to ask how your day is.

I’m with you on the O.J. thing - what a waste of human flesh.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Doom

Excellent point. As I watched Sally Field’s assertion that if women ruled the world there’d be fewer wars (I’m still waiting for the condemnation - similar to the outcry to the one that followed Harvard President Summer’s thought that maybe the researchers wanted to research to see if there are innate differences between men and women? - from the Left over that one.

I thought (modern) times of oh, Indira Ghandi, Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meier - all women who were so motherly peaceable that they shrank from armed conflict.

By mm

September 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Paul,

That’s funny. Barry Manilow music was also used on rioters in a country in Eastern Europe earlier this year. The riot broke up pretty quickly.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Oddly enough Barry Manilow was on The View with Elizabeth Hassleback twice in the past and found no problem with her. Could it be because a song for his new CD, that didn’t make onto the CD, was a duet with Rosie O’Doughnut?

Bosch,

You’re welcome, it’s easy to freeze one’s memory on things like that. I doubt they had much of an upbringing from OJ anyway other than him instilling in them a sense that their poor daddy is always being picked on. I hope they’re ok when they realize that pig really did murder their mother.

By Paul made Doom's list

September 18, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Paul& @@,

Did you see Doom’s list yesterday? You should if you haven’t. Located at 12:41 and 1:01.

Perhaps Bosch can fill you in.

Doom

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Yep, we are still making a difference September 18, 2007 10:21 AM Security Took ‘Turn for Worse’ In Southern Iraq, Report Says}}}}

From goonies artcle:

{{{{“The security environment in southern Iraq took a notable turn for the worse in August” with the assassination of two governors, said the report, which covers June through August. “There may be retaliation and an increase in intra-Shi’a violence throughout the South,” it said, whereas previously the violence was centered in the main southern city of Basra.}}}}

Gosh, I wonder what happened in Southern Iraq to cause security to turn for the worse, gee, let me think, uh, duh, could it have been the British WITHDRAWAL?

How dull can you be, making a case against our withdrawal from Iraq, and not even know it?

Geez.

By Free Market War?

September 18, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

U.S. Is Paying Off Iraq’s Worst War Criminals in Attempt to Ward Off Attacks

By Jesus loves Bosch

September 18, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Doom has been following Clinton’s(we don’t call men by their first name)health care initiatives. I will be entering the health insurance industry pretty soon and I find her plans to be quite interesting.

Rw,

Check out the Doom’s list as soo n as you can, you’re on it!

By Paul

September 18, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Actually, I think it’s a pretty great thing that there are people of that caliber serving. People with a strong moral sense in the midst of all that evil. More the reason I’m pretty disgusted with that latest movie depicting the rape and murder of that Iraqi child (and murder of her family). The director’s assertion that exposing such things will lead to an end of war is ludicrous. The criminals are serving life sentences - and when one considers the tens of thousands of soldiers and Marines who have served there - under horrid conditions - well, that case is an aberration.

But in the interest of telling stories of both points of view, I understand there’s a movie being planned about atrocities committed by Islamic militants so the Mideast Muslim community will rise in outrage to halt such activities. It’s been delayed, though, as they’re having such a difficult time finding any verifiable examples.

mm

I think I’d rather spend a week in jail than listen to an hour of Barry Manilow -

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

p!ss off doom

By RW is here without his pet Buy Danish

September 18, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

RW,

I thought I was rid of you, yet you have returned for another buttkicking.

Fortunately for you, Doom is not in the mood today. This is best time of the year- the fall, and I’m not going to let your stupidity ruin this moment.

Doom

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

British left, violence up.

NO DUH, Duh.

We ALL know violence will most likely increase upon withdrawal.

Try and tell us something new or useful.

But a hundred or so YOUNG AMERICANS is a small price to pay? ( Most especially since you aren’t paying any part of that price!!!!} Right? You and Bonehead Boehner agree.

Not to mention dead Iraqi’s.

War is hell DUH .

So is occupation for oil.

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Goober}}}}}}}}}}}}}

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By getalife

September 18, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

RW is jealous because I am #1 on doomed’s list.

Shouldn’t you be in school doomed?

Geez.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Paul, Yes, I agree with you on the priest issue, I know I’m horribly sarcastic, but I do agree.

I’m with you about Barry, he and Kenny Rogers (shudder), and God rest his soul, John Denver are Mother Bosch’s FAVORITE singers. I was actually drug to a conert to see Kenny Rogers once, it was one of the most horrible days of my life.

I would rather have my toenails ripped off than listen to any of those guys.

I also agree with the movie thing you said. I remember a long time ago while reading through the blog either here or at Wooten, a really liberal person (imagine me calling someone that) started bashing ALL the military based on that instance and it really p** me off. There are bad people at every level, everywhere.

Okay, I’ve been cheating on all of you guys and have been bloggin at Wooten’s for a while because this one was getting too long and tedious, sorry.

But, can anyone answer this question for me here because no one over at Wooten’s will:

What the hell do people in Alpharetta do for a living?

Doom, I know Jesus loves, this I know, for the Bible tells me so!

RW, At least we agree on one thing! :-)

By getalife

September 18, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

“KURTZ: But you bash the Bush administration so often that you have become a hero to some on the left. I mean, just in this book, in the first few pages, you talk about Bush and company harming America. You call the president deluded and you speak favorably of impeachment.

Do you consider yourself a left-winger?

CAFFERTY: No, I don’t. Not at all. On the contrary. In fact, in the early days of the run-up to the war in Iraq, I was a right-winger, if nothing else. I bought the whole song and dance about WMDs. I was caught up in the national hysteria that followed 9/11, and was captive to the political manipulation, if you will, that took place of all of us.

And I include myself. I was drinking the Kool-Aid on the run-up to that war. And I spent a lot of time on “AMERICAN MORNING” here on CNN supporting the administration and supporting the war.

So, no. The answer to your question is no, I don’t consider myself a left-winger.”

(GFH) “Good for him. Howie, do you consider yourself a shill for the right-wing bloggers?”

Many reporters should follow Jack’s lead.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

getalife

General Welsey Clark was on BOR last night. Gen Clark had some withering comments about MoveOn’s ad - Gen Petraeus used to work for Gen Clark. BOR said Sen Clinton would make a smart move by selecting Gen Clark as her running mate - instant foreign policy/defense cred.

Just thought you’d be interested -

PS - I don’t think we’ll see that exchange on ThinkProgress or Daily Kos!

By Who let getalife out of his straightjacket?

September 18, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

getalifeless,

RW is jealous of everyone. Without that roach Buy Danish at his side, he can’t think for himself. He’s probably gone now that Doom is here, as you should be.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Bosch

People in Alpharetta build houses that look like strip malls. Mystery solved.

As long as it’s true confession time: Abba. One of the greatest musical groups of all time. Even revered by Bono. Music makes people feel good.

Abba. End of discussion -

By Doom has friends in Alpharetta

September 18, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Most of the people I know work in the Finance industry. Doom knows several brokers and Investment bankers that live their and are close to their clients. Its also home to a great many athletes, such as Terrell Owens of the Dallas Cowboys.

Doom

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

To quote Chris Rock:

“If OJ didn’t do, then Nicole wouldn’t be dead.”

Doom,

It’s funny that you call me the “brother from another planet” when you’re the one talking in the third person and referring to yourself as a sci-fi character. Here’s my response to your list from yesterday.

By steve-o

September 17, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Your list is great and I’m truly honored to be your enemy (high 5’s to getalife and raisedanidiot).

It’s also extremely hilarious and witty that you attempt to insult me and getalife by calling us “gay”. I menan, how ingenious it is to label people that you don’t like as being attracted to members of the same sex.

Let’s talk about you Doom. You continue to post drivel on here under the guise of a comic book character. You label people with whom you disagree as “homos” and then in the next post you say how much you love Jesus. A little childish, no? Methinks your sexuality may be in question. Not necessarily a question of whether you’re homo or hetero, but more of a question of whether you’re getting laid. Your profile and MO leads me to infer that you have a sex life as deprived as a Catholic priest in an all-girls school.

More importantly, your political commentary is lacking any sense of logic or clarity and views are rather obtuse.

But if there’s one positive thing about you Doom, I must say that your consistent ability to inject sophomoric humor into serious discussion has firmly established you as the Flavor Flav of this blog. Keep on clockin’ and shockin’, Doom!

By Abba has nothing on U2

September 18, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Paul,

You might want to get in touch with your younger side. U2,Metallica, and ACDC all surpass ABBA.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Yes, I have seen many comments on Clark for VP since he has won a war with her husband. I am sure she will appoint him a position now that he endorsed her.

What do you think about her health care plan?

doomed,

Go to school son, adults talking here.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

[[CAFFERTY: … In fact, in the early days of the run-up to the war in Iraq… I bought the whole song and dance about WMDs.]]

So did I. I think it came from listening to the Clinton Administration’s statements of fact for eight years. Senate and Congressional leaders from both parties, too. Then the Bush Administration kept repeating the same things for about a year. CIA, too. Look at the statements on a timeline, you can’t tell where a Democratic Administration ended and a Republican began.

I’m amazed Cafferty didn’t discuss that in his book -

By Dusty

September 18, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Wow, I can’t believe that I am glad that Luckovich is back.(I thought AJC had enshrined his last pointless cartoon.) Evidently his vacation cleared his mind a bit. No anti-American cartoon today. Let’s hope his recovery is permanent.

By getalife and steve-o are lovers

September 18, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

steve-o,

Doom read your psychogarbage yesterday after the blog closed. You are in fact, partly correct. The truth is this: Doom is very attractive and has never had any problem pulling the h$*s. Due to an exhaustive amount of one night stands and occasional stalking situations, I’ve decided to take a break from dating for the moment. Unlike you and your boyfriend, getalife, I shall return to the dating seen and try to be a little more discriminating with my choices.

Fair enough?

Doom

Doom

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Abba has nothing on U2

U2? And you’re telling me to get in touch with my younger side?!!? LOL!

BTW - Abba’s enduring popularity is because new generations “discover” them.

getalife

I haven’t had time to study it yet, but I’m sure she learned from her prior attempt and the intervening years (as an aside, with all the hoopla over the VP’s office not releasing energy task force records, I heard the other day Hillary’s done the same thing with the records from her first health care study group?).

I would hope the debate doesn’t split into a “single payer only (Michael Moore’s mistake)” vs “the less we do, the better” battle. I think something between the two could have chance of passage. Of course, the Congress’s latest proposals on the insurance for poor kids (laudable goal) expanding to families earning - $80k a year? - gets me just a tad nervous - if they take the same tack with health care reform.

So studying options, rating the advantages and disadvantages of each, is my hope. And I would like to see a candidate - any of them - in a few months say “we’ve heard the criticisms and comments and we now want to modify our plan…”

By Paul and Bosch need to blacken up a bit

September 18, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

You are also forgetting about Michael Jackson and Prince and the Revolution. Earth, Wind,and Fire and the Gap Band.

You probably don’t know who they are do you? Maybe Bosch does.

Doom

By getalife

September 18, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Jack read emails all day every day from the American people on the issues.

His book is in line with their thinking. It is called reality which you will not find on BO, only his opinion.

cheney bashed Moveon but lets not forget the bashing of Kerry, Cleland, Dashle and other war vet dems done by the gop to win elections.

It is wrong unless Progressives do it right?Just another distraction from the failed occupation for oil.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Doom

I’m more of a Motown guy. Except for Earth Wind Fire.

And Leslie Uggams. Lotsa good enduring entertainers out there. Something for everyone -

By getalife

September 18, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Compare it to the gop plan, well, if they come up with one, and get back to me.

doomed is a Michael Jackson fan.

Go figure.

Geez.

By Political Foreskin

September 18, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I see how Luckovich came up with today’s cartoon. “If I did it” is a variation of “If I were an idiot”, at least in terms of parallel onomatopoeia, that is “sounds like”.

I guess calling OJ an idiot is funny. IDIOT! The word idiot is funny. We are all idiots at some things. I just blew out my entire fuse box connecting a + to a - terminal on my car battery. That makes me a total idiot. Now the car starts, and the front headlights work, but the rear brake lights dont work and you cant press the brakes and get the transmission out of park. (no radio or air conditioning fan, or tachometer either). Dome light works. What have I done? I cant even have the car towed, I have to figure out which fuse or relay was blown. But I’m an idiot, and that’s more than I can handle. I’ve never been this f’d with a car before.

Any suggestions besides stick my head in the toilet?

By Stevie Wonder, Temptations, Marvin Gaye?

September 18, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Paul, Motown is good choice.

Doom always argues that the best music came in the 80s, however. If you listen to some of today’s so called hits, they are just recycled music from that era. That and the fact that MJ still holds the world record is tantamount to the greatness of the 80s.

Doom

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Fair enough, Doom. But I doubt that you’ve had any one-night stands. And I can guarantee that if you did, it probably involved a hidden dose of rohypnol.

Also, I’m surprised that you know who Earth, Wind, & Fire is. Just out of curiousity, what is your favorite song by them?

By getalife

September 18, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

PF,

You probably fried the computer in your car and need a good mechanic.

By getalife prefers folk music

September 18, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

getalife,

What type of music do you and steve-o dance to? “Its raining men” by the weather girls? HaHaHa! You probably are a closet folk music fan. Banjos, jugs and all.

Doom

By Doom responds to idiot Steve-o

September 18, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Not that its any of your business, but Doom likes “September”. Why are you suprised that I know EWF? Are you under the impression that I’m white?

Doom

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

getalife

Let me rephrase, again:

Bad behavior is bad, regardless of which side, group, party, website, does it. One doing so does not justify the other.

I pointed out the Hillary/Cheney bit, not to justify one by the actions of another, but to show that in politics, “right” is often measured by “what party.” Candidates will do that which they condemn in others if it will advance their cause.

Haven’t I said before, that Kerry’s commander put him in for the awards, the Navy approved and hasn’t taken action to rescind them, so case is closed? Just because some condemned Sen Kerry doesn’t justify MoveOn condemning Gen Petraeus.

I do not accept the “we invaded Iraq for oil” argument. We had adequate, reliable supplies. We weren’t anywhere near where the Japanese were prior to our involvement in WWII. If we wanted to invade, Venezuela was a much better target. Just because a businessman who is associated with the Pres makes a business decision doesn’t mean that decision was the driving force for US action six years earlier.

Is this the same Hunt who tried to corner the silver market in 1974? Who got shut down by a Republican administration?

By Next Luckovich contest: Who can guess the race of Doom?

September 18, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

This should be hilarious!!!!!

Doom

By getalife

September 18, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

doomed’s favorite song id “beat it” by MJ.

I listen to music that gets your blood flowing like this

Tool, Audio Slave, Pearl Jam, Godsmack, Soundgarten, Metallica,ACDC, etc….

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Of course you like “September”, because you really don’t know Earth, Wind, & Fire. That’s the safe answer because it’s the most known song.

Also, the 80’s were lousy for music, other than hip hop when groups like Eric B & Rakim, EPMD, and Public Enemy emerged.

In regards to soul/R & B, the 70s were unbelievable when songs had live instrumentation and were sung with true feeling. That 80’s R & B garbage was nothing but syntesizers, fake drums, and jheri curls.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Doom

I also enjoy big bands from the 1920s. And Tony Bennett. Lots of good from each era.

BTW - I’d guess [[MJ still holds the world record is tantamount to the greatness of the 80s]] is more due to the disposable income of teenagers of that decade compared to the previous decades.

getalife

As in Mitt Romney’s plan? Seems to be working pretty well in Massachusetts but the plan he’s proposed nationally seems to have backed way off on many areas. What works to get elected (or what the voters want) in Massachusetts is different from the national electorate.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Paul and Doom, U2 - the Joshua Tree - rules the world - end of story. Hell, I even liked that goofy album they put out after Auchtung Baby - another true classic.

Prince, yes, I like him, I remember my girlfriend and I went to see Purple Rain in the theater - packed out, people danced in the aisle - fun show. Bad movie, one of the worst, but still one of my favorite all time albums.

Earth Wind and Fire? Little before my time - I like the flash though.

Michael Jackson - vomit. I liked him when he was black - Off the Wall.

Yes, I’m more of a rocker kind of person - jazz, absolutely no country music of any kind.

Not too much on hip hop, I borrowed my son’s car the other day and heard one of the absolutely crudest songs I have ever heard! Apprently the singer had met a lot of women in his life, did lots of “things” to them, and they to him, and during the chorus liked to talk about reefer. It made me feel old.

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

{{{By Next Luckovich contest: Who can guess the race of Doom?

September 18, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

This should be hilarious!!!!!

Doom}}}

Martian?

By getalife is jealous of Beyonce

September 18, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

ghettolife,

You just named two of my groups idiot. How could an old man like you know about those guys? Stop raiding your grandson’s stash.

Doom

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 18, 2007 11:29 AM cheney bashed Moveon but lets not forget the bashing of Kerry, Cleland, Dashle and other war vet dems done by the gop to win elections.}}}}

al-Gitmo: Um, wrong.

Kerry was “bashed” by the same people that served with him, not Cheney, but fellow veterans that knew he and saw with their own eyes that he was a sissy, child killer and a band aid boy.

MoveOn, on the other hand, has no business discussing national security issues, their boy Klintoon went and hid in Russia during Vietnam, which is what the USA would do if you if you potty mouthed flamethrowers ever got control of this country.

~~~~~~

{{{{By Abba has nothing on U2 September 18, 2007 11:17 AM U2,Metallica, and ACDC all surpass ABBA.}}}}

Let’s not forget Zeppelin, some coincidence, I was just listening to “Houses of the Holy,” the two worst songs they ever wrote surrounded by the six best they ever produced.

By steve-o is racist

September 18, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

You are so convinced that I’m white that you don’t want to believe I know EWF. First of all your wrong: After the love is gone, Shining Star, and Let’s groove were bigger hits. Look at the charts idiot. If you don’t want an aswer to your question, then don’t ask.

Doom

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Hey steve-o, Okay, I’m very ignorant in the hip hop world. I don’t know good from bad, who are some good hip hop groups, people?

ACHTUNG, not Auchtung, Achtung Baby, sorry, my German slipped a bit.

And absolutely no Southern Rock - Eagles, etc. Yuck. Hotel California? You can check out anytime you like and never leave? Who cares.

My new favorite band is White Stripes - brilliant lyrics.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You would have to be in cheney’s top secret meeting with big oil to prove this occupation is for oil but I am seeing a consensus on this fact. What are the oil prices today and Hunt signed an illegal deal with the Kurds without Iraq government approval.

Kerry did bash moveon because it is wrong to attack vets but is fair game thanks to the gop.

I think they want the same agenda in Iran. Lets face it, Iran is not aggressively occupying countries like us and Israel which have nukes.

It is argument to protect themselves from the aggressive occupiers. Then you have to prove they are building weapons instead of an energy source. See General Abazaid’s position.

In the end, they will have nukes and the world will accept it to protect themselves from the ones that do have nukes and are aggressive.

This occupation for oil has many consequences forcing a new arms race, conflicts with Russia and China, and a nuclear middle East.

By Don't forget Rattle and Hum

September 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

U2 released some of the greatest music ever. Doom also likes Hall and Oates with their soulful twang.

Steve-o,

Eric B and Rakim’s “My Melody” was the best song on “Paid in Full” followed by “Move the Crowd”.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

I must admit though, that in the afternoon when the news/current events radio shows are over I generally change over to an FM classical station.

It’s better background while I’m working.

By Classical puts Doom to sleep

September 18, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Doom goes to bed listening to classical and sometimes Frank Sinatra.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I like this one

By Paul

September 18, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

getalife

Well, one can make a case that the continuing presence in Iraq is in part to stabilize the region in order to ensure a reliable supply of oil.

But that’s a lot different than to say the original motive for the Iraq war was over oil.

Oil prices today; some would say the Iraq war is irrelevant - demand from China, others, drives prices.

I applaud Kerry for his action with MoveOn’s ad. Mrs. Edwards, too. Not her husband. Hillary was just on CNN - when asked to condemn MoveOn she just says she admires Gen Petraeus’s record of service. Weak, very weak.

Regarding Iran and nukes - Gen Abizaid, I believe, talked about how Iran wasn’t a “suicide nation.” Maybe. But they have some religious nuts in charge. It’s not like deterrence with the Russians - ANY attack - chem, bio, nukes - meant a massive nuke retaliation.

Let’s suppose it were to happen - directly or indirectly. I’d wager there’d be lots of Americans who would say “retaliate? Where’s the proof? But they hit only one city - it would be morally wrong to destroy their country.” Point is - fear of annihilation is what worked for Russians and American - Chinese, too. I’m just not too sure about this current Iranian leadership - all the more reason to try to isolate them and appeal to the moderates.

I’m about to sign off - done with some archiving and need to focus on other work. See you late this afternoon.

By COMING SOON: DOOMSDAY! Friday Oct 5, 2007

September 18, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION EVERYONE:

On Friday Oct 5,2007, Doom will list all of his accomplishments on this blog and also his political views. This will give all of you a true view into the mind of Doom.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

[[By Classical puts Doom to sleep

September 18, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Doom goes to bed listening to classical and sometimes Frank Sinatra.]]

Can’t resist: it really gets Mrs. Doom going, huh? Lucky guy!

By getalife

September 18, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Paul,

They know Israel or us will wipe them off the map.

Iamanutjob is alot like w but does not have the power.

He is a political pawn and their real leaders are not stupid.

China and Russia bashed France for their warmongering on Iran today and they are the real threats.

By LMAO

September 18, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

LMAO- Nobody seems to be reading doom or Andy Dulls’ posts.

Hey guys, throw them a bone, give them some attention.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Um, Paul,

doomed is gay and keeps hitting on me and steve-o.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Oct 5th must be the day the blog goes blank thereby exposing the full and complete content of doomed’s “mind.”

What a weird day, I also agree with steve-0 about 70’s music being some of the very best. Although current releases, “I’m Not Dead” by Pink and “All the Right Reasons” by Nickleback, are both pretty darned good from start to finish.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

CAN YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT?

McCain : I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable. As it is none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded. Many of his crewmates have testified to his courage under fire. I think John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam.

Next your gonna tell us about all those stolen keyboard w’s.

And what’s this facist drivel {{{MoveOn, on the other hand, has no business discussing national security issues, their boy Klintoon went and hid in Russia during Vietnam, which is what the USA would do if you if you potty mouthed flamethrowers ever got control of this country.}}}

A MAINSTREAM organization, hell any organization, has no business discussing National Security issue?

NO BUSINESS? THAN WHY ARE YOU ALLOWED TO?

Some of us still hold these truths to be self evident…..But you are a TRAITOR to this nation.

This is how you recognize today?

Today is Constitution day, and you still prefer to use it like Charmin.

YOU ARE HOWEVER, right about Zeppelin.

Goober

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Doom,

You’ve said that you’re black a bunch of times on this blog. It’s no secret. You knowledge of Eric B & Rakim is impressive and both songs you mentioned were great, but don’t forget about the title track.

Bosch,

To get a full appreciation for hip hop, a lot of the stuff released between 1988 and 1994 was some of the best hip hop released. Look for A Tribe Called Quest, Eric B & Rakim, GangStarr, De La Soul, EPMD, and Public Enemy. The Def Jam 10th anniversary box set is a good purchase if you want to get a broad sample of classic hip hop. Also check out the albums “Low End Theory” and “Midnight Murauders” by A Tribe Called Quest.

By mm

September 18, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

More global warming for Duh

By Old Blackwater, keep on rollin'....

September 18, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

“It was inevitable,” That’s P.W. Singer’s reaction to the Iraqi government ” banning” military contractor Blackwater from the country. For years, no one has followed the rise of these privatized soldiers more closely than Singer, a Brookings Institution Senior Fellow and author of the ground-breaking Corporate Warriors . Companies like Blackwater have been roaming Iraq without oversight or management for years. Of course the Iraqi government was going to lose patience. Here is Singer’s take:

By We are not in "Good Hands" are we?http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSWAT00807220070917

September 18, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

White House pledges veto of terror insurance bill

By This nation has some GREAT KIDS

September 18, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Students Fight Bullies With Pink

By Hey mm

September 18, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

did that piece say dung or DUHNG?

By President Tommy Flanagan

September 18, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

The president cites shaky facts as he makes a case for keeping high levels of troops in Iraq.

By mm

September 18, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Clarification:

DUH is for DUHNG

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 18, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

{{{{By mm September 18, 2007 1:01 PM More global warming for Duh}}}}

Yawn, geez, straight from PMSNBC’s link:

{{{{For millennia, layers of animal waste and other organic matter left behind by the creatures that used to roam the Arctic tundra have been sealed inside the frozen permafrost}}}}

Gee, it used to not be frozen, hmmm, so that must mean that we’ve gone through cooling and warming cycles all through our history.

Imagine that!

And we are still here.

Mental Midget: You know there is this thing called thinking, you should try it sometime, I noticed you and the drive by media don’t do much of it.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

We all know you are a global warming denier.

No news there.

We all know that the earth warms and cools in cycles.

No news there.

We all know you are incapable of understanding the why this cycle is different.

No news there.

Too bad we can’t say about you…

No news is good news.

Take another long inhale off that tail pipe. What’s a little more brain damage to a cretin like you!

Goober.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Getalife: “You can’t be a pimp and a prostitute too!”

They have a song on their new album Icky Thump, it’s called “You Don’t Know What Love Is (You Just Do As Your Told)” that I really love right now. I have some friends that are getting a divorce, and I swear that song was written for them.

Doom, U2 - Bono, the Edge - best rock band of all time.

Okay, October 5, 2007 - a day that will live in infamy, I’m sure. Wouldn’t miss it. Can’t wait.

Steve-O - Thanks, I’ll check that out. I really like good music, good lyrics, that’s why I HATE country music, the lyrics are all written by retarded rednecks.

This is HILARIOUS! The other day, I was listening to NPR, and the news was on, and the guy was talking about a feud going on with 50 cent and some other guy, but the funny thing is the guy telling the story called him Mr. Cent. Everyone in the booth started cracking up laughing. It was so funny - some geeky, NPR, white guy - “Um, today, Mr. Cent…..” It was one of those had to be there moments.

RW, I like that song that Pink has out You and Your Hand or something like that. Funny song. “You don’t really want to mess with me tonight.” I wouldn’t want to mess with Pink ANY night. She’d kick my A$$!

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Additionally,

you calling anyone a mental midget is way toooooo funny!

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 18, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

{{{{Data obtained from ice cores indicate that between AD 800 and 1300 the regions around the fjords of the southern part of the island experienced a relatively mild climate similar to today. Main contributors to the demise of the Norse settlements appeared to have been destruction of the natural vegetation for farming, turf, and wood by the Norse and ensuing soil erosion and a decline in local temperatures during the Little Ice Age.}}}}

Duh.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Duh, I have a question for you - do you think it is our responsibility as humans to take care of our planet and not pollute it? Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you recycle? When you brush your teeth do you leave the water running? Do you throw garbage on the street?

Do you think it’s okay for some manufacturers and some business to pollute our water and air with toxic waste?

I’m just curious.

By RE

September 18, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Fed cuts rates by 0.5%.

Everyone is happy.

Please please, if you have any assets for retirement, start switching out to foriegn currency or gold, the dollar is going to keep losing value.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Duh, so what?

Put the National Enquirer down while you are having your daily “constitutional” and try reading real science

This is what sourcing looks like, goober.

Have a nice cool drink of water right outa’ the hooch. It tastes better (thicker too) than that Kool aid you are addicted to!

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

It’s named U+Ur Hand

There’s a great song named “Who Knew” on it too.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 18, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch September 18, 2007 2:21 PM Duh, I have a question for you - do you think it is our responsibility as humans to take care of our planet and not pollute it? Nothing more, nothing less.}}}}

Yes, Bosch, I do. In fact, I work in an industry that does just that, cleans the environment.

What we are talking about with this man made global warming agenda is something entirely different than “cleaning the environment.”

What the libs have planned for us is the total destruction of capitalism (sound familiar?) in pursuit of a “solution” that will have absolutely no affect on the environment.

Did you read my post at 2:06 or did you just assume what it meant based on your beliefs, beliefs that you have derived from what dedicated socialists and left wingers have told you?

Think about it for a second, in 1300 there was no ice in Greenland, none, zero, but there were humans there and all over the whole planet. Imagine for a second how warm it must have been in 1300 for there to be NO ice, after all, today it is just now melting. And now imagine this, we survived it.

Until it got cold, then it destroyed whole human civilizations.

Comprende?

And what were we doing in 1300 to cause the warm climate?

There is nothing you can do about the rays of the Sun, trust me on this one.

And the biggest question of all, cold kills more than heat does, warmer climates provide more food, people are healthier, so why are you libs so against it?

Do you WANT us all to die?

Do you even acknowledge the fact that banning DDT, based on junk science that it harmed bird egg shells, and that banning wound up killing 50,000,000 African children who contracted malaria from mosquito bites? And that we are now reversing that by unbanning DDT?

Do you realize DDT used to be sprayed on whole towns during summer and no one died?

Think man, think.

By getalife and Steve-o sittin' in a tree, K-i-s-s-i-n-g

September 18, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

RW,

How dare you speak concerning Doom like that! Get lost before I exterminate you again.

Steve,

If you knew I was black, then why would it be a surprise for me to know who EWF is? Did you think Doom was a kid or something?

Paul,

Doom is not married. I’m on break from relationships right now, unlike gayboys getalife and Steve-o.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

“”What the libs have planned for us is the total destruction of capitalism (sound familiar?) in pursuit of a “solution” that will have absolutely no affect on the environment.”“”

MAJOR BULL$HIT

Where exactly did you find that tidbit? Can’t say I’ve ever seen that anyplace but coming out your butt. And we KNOW what that smells like.

AND THENS THERE”S THIS JEWEL

”And the biggest question of all, cold kills more than heat does, warmer climates provide more food, people are healthier, so why are you libs so against it?”“”“

Yep, keep going just like we are and WE TOO WILL BE ABLE TO WALK ON WATER! (It might be chunky, but what the hell)

You way toooooo funny!

You are either ignorant or evil.

I guess both.

By mm

September 18, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Duh and the rest of the 30% club will only believe in global warming when the GOP admits it’s real.

But when will that happen? The GOP has convinced the wingnuts that global warming is a ploy conjured up by the Dems to raise taxes and cripple the economy.

Pure politics. Pure stupidity.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

doomed,

I’m sorry for my continual harassment. You see, you keep telling everybody about my sexual orientation and I’m trying to keep a secret. Its something I’ve been struggling with for some time now and I hope to settle down with a nice fella some day. So please leave me alone.

geez.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Additionally Duh

Try paying attention to the GOOD REPUBLICANS, not the neo-con-men,

By Doomsday-OCT 5, 2007

September 18, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Mark your calendars for the celebration of Doom’s accomplishments on this blog.

Do you know why Buy Danish and RW rarely show up? How did getalife become exposed for the pervert he is? Find out on Doomsday!

Doom

By These are DUH's KKKOMRADES

September 18, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

State Dept. Watchdog: My ‘Foremost Mission Is To Support Bush Administration’

Among the allegations:

– Refused to send “any investigators” into Iraq and Afghanistan to “pursue investigations into wasteful spending or procurement fraud.”

– Stalled investigators from cooperating with a “Justice Department investigation into waste, fraud, and abuse relating to the new U.S. Embassy in Iraq.”

– Used “irregular” and incomplete investigative procedures to help exonerate a prime contractor of the U.S. embassy in Iraq of charges of labor trafficking.

– Impeded investigators’ efforts to cooperate with a Justice probe into allegations that a “large private security contractor was smuggling weapons into Iraq.”

– Interfered with an on-going investigation “into the conduct of Kenneth Tomlinson, the head of Voice of America and a close associate of Karl Rove.”

– Censored portions of inspection reports on embassies so that information on security vulnerabilities was “not disclosed to Congress.”

The report adds that under Krongard, the IG office has seen an “exodus of trained staff” as “people come to work every day fearful” of his “daily antagonism.”

By getalife

September 18, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

“Report: Greenspan says euro could replace U.S. dollar as reserve currency”

When the market is in trouble, the fed bails them out every time.

Very predictable short term and easy money today but it will crash again. Way over priced and should be at 10,000.

Long term looks very bad.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

sigh.

2:52 not mine.

Children,

Geez.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Here’s a nice video of your granddad

I sure hope the new AG will hurry up and get confirmed so he can go after this crook.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

RW, That song is great - thanks.

Duh, Calm down. I’m glad you do all that, really. I was trying to prove a point, and yes, at your expense, sorry.

I think that’s a common misconception, that those who do not believe in global warming, do not care about the environment, and I don’t believe that.

Kind of like the misconception people have that those who oppose the war in Iraq also believe that we don’t need a strong military or that we would be soft on defense.

I do, however, believe in “climate change.” There’s a lot of data out there and like I said earlier in the week, data is analyzed how you want it to be. I’ll stick with the scientists on this one and not the economists/business men, etc.

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Considering the fact that you call yourself a sci-fi character and your ID at your 2:41 post—yes, I made a safe assumption that you are a child.

Bosch,

Mr. Cent…LOL!

I guarantee you that an album like Low End Theory by Tribe will change your perception of hip hop.

By steve-o

September 18, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

{{{Paul,

Doom is not married. I’m on break from relationships right now, unlike gayboys getalife and Steve-o.}}}

Doom,

Just admit to Paul that you are still a virgin. Stop trying to fool everybody here.

By mm

September 18, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Duh,

Are you blaming the sun?

If so, you are WRONG.

The sun’s activity cycle is 11 years. Not hundreds. Not thousands.

The sun is currently at the low activity of it’s cycle. In 5.5 years it will be at it’s peak.

Many events cause the warming and cooling of the earth. But it is not the sun.

Read a science book.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

RW,

The new AG has a Dept. to fix and doubt he will look at Murtha.

Now, the IG of the State Dept. should be locked up for obstruction.

Geez.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Thanks steve-o -

It’s not so much that I have a BAD perception of hip hop, I’m just hip hop stupid, if you know what I mean.

I was, however, very alarmed at the song my son was playing in his car the other day! Damn!

What was REALLY funny, is that I asked him his opinion of the song, and he took this “Uh, it’s just a song attitude.” Then I started reciting some of the lyrics, word for word. I think because me, hearing one of his parents, saying those words, and talking about oral sex, anal sex, in all it’s glorious details - and I asked him, “So you think that’s okay?” Well, after that, he almost fainted.

I was highly amused.

I told him that I couldn’t stop him from listening to that kind of music, but when he has a girl in the car with him to show some respect and not play it.

By RE

September 18, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Silly silly GOP

You know, if GWB lost back in 04, he would be a much happier person.

Think about it, in 04, the housing market had not burst yet still spurred on by the fed rate cut after 9-11, Iraq was not a complete loss yet, and the economy and dollar were still fairly strong.

And now, gwb has 16 months left, the plan for iraq is to let the next president figure it out, housing burst taking along with it construction jobs, finance jobs and about 150 banks and counting, the dollar is falling fast as the national debt is balloning.

Welcome to stagflation 2008 style.

Take the incompetence in foriegn policy and economics of Jimmy Carter, mix in some Nixon style secrecy and dishonesty, along with the charm and charisma of jerry ford, and you get George W Bush.

The world mourns.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Getalife and RW, So what happened to Ted Olsen? I thought he was going to be the new AG.

Yes, I’m afraid the new AG has got a lot of work to do to get that Cabinet in ship shape.

By Y'all take a minute and make a call PLEASE

September 18, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Help restore the Constitution. Yesterday, Sens. Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) reintroduced the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act as an amendment to a defense authorization bill, restoring the right of habeas corpus to detainees charged as “enemy combatants.” Firedoglake notes that Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC) has already threatened to filibuster the bill. Call your senators (information HERE) urge them to support the legislation.

By luckovichisaheadcase

September 18, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

RE- the only thing that you got right was the thing about ole Dummy Carter, the second stupidest man in America - after Al Gore! The economy is in fantastic shape. More people own their own homes than ever. Therefore, you will have some people who have taken advantage of the situation and we will have more foreclosures. As a percentage of total outstanding mortgages, the foreclosure rate is actually tiny. But then again, you liberals don’t want to hear facts, just horror stories and Grimm’s Fairy Tales. Check the real facts. You might even change your mind!

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Yes, you’re right RE, if Dubya had lost, all the things you mentioned still would have happened, and whose fault would it be? Clinton! No wait, Carter! No wait, I can get this, Kerry!

It’s sad when part of his strategy is to let the next president determine his own legacy. Although I don’t support Hillary, I think it would be great, if only for that reason, for her to be elected.

By Stupidest Post Du Jour

September 18, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

””“”“The economy is in fantastic shape”“”“

Ok, who is the head case?

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

“The economy is in fantastic shape.”

Damn, there goes my Coke on my desk - out the nose even - ouch that hurt!

“More people own their own homes than ever.”

Not for too much longer!

Mr. Headcase, Mr. Headcase, please, please, stop it.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I surprised w cut and ran from an Olson fight but Leahy is demanding the docs he wanted from ganzo to proceed.

The Dems have a lot of work to do to fix all w’s screw ups.

Dodd on habeas corpus, Iraq, AG, voting machines, it goes on and on.

Then they have to win back trust of the American people and the world.

It will take decades to fix the w disaster.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 18, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch September 18, 2007 3:05 PM I do, however, believe in “climate change.” There’s a lot of data out there and like I said earlier in the week, data is analyzed how you want it to be. I’ll stick with the scientists on this one and not the economists/business men, etc.}}}}

“Data” has the warmest year in recent history being 1934, as well as 6 more in the top ten being in the 20’s and 30’s.

“Data” or rather scientific fact has CO2 having a factor of .00008% of warming effect when compared to all of the other “gases” the most predominant being water vapor, which has a 95% effect.

“Data” has the climate of Mars warming at the exact same rate as Earth’s is, not surprising as we share the same Sun.

Scientists are on my side.

Hysteria is on yours.

~~~~~

{{{{By mm September 18, 2007 3:12 PM Duh, Are you blaming the sun? If so, you are WRONG. The sun’s activity cycle is 11 years. Not hundreds. Not thousands.}}}}

Yawn:

{{{{Scientists have identified two causes of the Little Ice Age from outside the ocean/atmosphere/land systems: decreased solar activity and increased volcanic activity.}}}}

Not man, duh.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Good for you! As I read that, thinking about openly confronting such language, I was reminded of Charlton Heston’s doing essentially the same thing, reading Ice-T’s lyrics at a Time Warner stockholder’s meeting. He was asked to refrain from such vulgarity and was told the press couldn’t print what he said - even though kids were buying the lyrics.

When I looked for what he said I came across his speech to the Harvard Law School Forum. I thought you and others might find it thought-provoking. It seems as timely now as it did in 1999.

I was struck by the irony - a person derided as an arch-conservative, giving examples of his life, fighting for causes, of themes many here identify as… liberal! So much for labels.

Link: Charlton Heston Address to Harvard Law Forum

BTW, from what I’ve seen recently, you may want to be prepared to have some talks with the parents of 12-16 year old girls about their actions and comments to boys their age. It’s a whole new world out there -

By mm

September 18, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

LUCKOVICHISAHEADCASE,

You are dumber than Duh. Your last post is full of sh*t.

That’s the same logic wingnuts use to defend the deficit.

“The deficit is such a small percentage of the GDP”

Total crap.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

duh’s scientists are paid by energy companies.

That debate is over.

Move on.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Bosch

[[So what happened to Ted Olsen? I thought he was going to be the new AG.]]

He was Bush’s attorney who argued the Fl election case Bush v Gore before the US Supreme Court. The Court held for his position -

Do you really think the Dems wouldn’t have engaged in massive payback during the confirmation fight? Sore losers…

By Political Foreskin

September 18, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

A not-yet def Beethoven knew both Mozart and Haydn. Beethoven met Mozart when Mozart’s mother had just died, so their meeting was cut short by grief. But they were locked away in a room with a keyboard for nearly a half hour, long enough for the two to know they were alone in the world. Imagine being Mozart in a world of musical idiots and witnessing Beethoven do riffs on your own original material. Riffs you never thought of, or could imagine. Mozart was so impressed he predicted the entire world would listen to Beethoven.

Beethoven and Haydn ended badly when Haydn criticized the very riffs Beethoven had invented for Mozart, years later after Mozarts untimely death. Beethoven suddenly realized that Haydn wasn’t Mozart. They never spoke again.

Mozart ranks as the greatest genius that ever lived. Whoever is second, is a far, far distant second and the rest are bunched up as nearly second. All lesser composers. All composers who worked hard and did as good as any man can do working hard.

You could not fall asleep listening to Mozart’s “Abduction” overture.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

If all those things would have happened anyway why is it Bush’s fault? Besides I wouldn’t buy into Chicken Little’s…err…RE’s fantasy scenario anyway.

Here’s another song from Pink

This one makes fun of the Paris, Lindsey, etc. set.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 18, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE September 18, 2007 3:20 PM Think about it, in 04, the housing market had not burst yet still spurred on by the fed rate cut after 9-11.}}}}

In the last 4 years housing values have gone up 100% on average and just recently they lost 5%, so now all of the lib harpies are bleating, go figure.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Getalife, Yes, that pesky paperwork. Hopefully this guy will be the American people’s AG, and not Bush’s shield.

Duh, Look man, you are not going to change my mind, just like I’m not going to change yours, okay? You believe what you want, that’s okay with me, and I’ll believe what I want, which should be okay with you.

But in the meantime, I hope that the real scientists figure out how to help our planet from melting.

Paul, Isn’t that funny - hearing me say things like - well, I won’t say here, he turned a nice shade of green, especially when I asked him his opinion on if he thought that me and the other Bosch might like doing those kinds of things (can you imagine having that image of your parents - EWWWWWW). No, no.

You don’t have to yell to punish - sometimes the alternatives can be so much sweeter.

Yeap, I’m on that - the girl thing. It’s funny how having an 11-year-old daughter turns you into the person who thinks locking children in closets is quite an okay thing to do! :-)

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Keep beating that dead horse.

Keep drinking that koolaid.

YOU ARE WRONG ON GLOBAL WARMING.

DEAD WRONG.

Maybe millions of people kinda’ dead wrong.

Science is not on your side. THAT IS FICTION.

But then again that’s were you live.

You are out of the realm of reality and the court jester of the kingdom of LA LA.

IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE ALL THAT CRAP YOU JUST POSTED

why aren’t you “”“man”“” enough to show us your source.

Are you perhaps AFRAID we’ll find the pay off to the study’s author?

You and your phony scientists are slime.

WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA SO MUCH?

Liar

Liar

Liar

Liar

Liar

Liar

and a GOOBER to boot!

You tooooooo funny!

If I were you, I’d think about relocating outside the U S of A late next year.

It’s going to get ugly for the collaborators!

By Paul

September 18, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

mm

Unfortunately, that same logic is used by both sides when they want to spend more on their pet programs.

I was at a seminar, speaker was some senior guy, discussing the world situation, made the same point to justify increasing the Defense budget. I asked him something along the lines of, given what he spent on clothes when he was 25, had he increased his spending now to match the percentage compared to his income when he was 25? Maybe it was for toiletries, or shoes, or whatever. Same diff. I got the classic reply of “that’s different” -

It ain’t just ‘wingnuts’ who use that tactic.

By Hey Duh

September 18, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

And how much of that 100% was justified?

How much was a scam?

You are quite naive if you think it’s over yet.

Goober.

By RE

September 18, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

“As a percentage of total outstanding mortgages, the foreclosure rate is actually tiny”

Damn this guy is a dunce.

I think I got a pretty good handle on the facts so far as forclosure and housing goes. Tell you what, just for you, I would advise you to go out and purchase a few investment homes and put all your money in the US dollar. SHow your pride

By Make ya' wonder WHY?

September 18, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Republicans Block Voting Machine Testing in Ohio

By mm

September 18, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Paul,

At least the Dems find a way to pay for their expenditures. Yes, with taxes.

If we ran businesses like we ran the government, we would certainly be screwed.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

RW, Well, maybe I’m being a little hypocritical here, I think alot of blame for the sucky economy is a direct result of the war, which, yes, I can definitely blame Bush for. And, while I’ve always been opposed to the war, in 2004, I thought, well, maybe this will get wrapped up - we started it, we should finish it, and hopefully things will work out and quickly. Boy, was I wrong! Now, I say, get the hell out and rework the plan - we need a new strategy - this one just isn’t working and our country, like many of it’s citizens are going bankrupt - but as I’ve said, I don’t blame just the war for the housing market debacle - I think that has more to do with greedy businesses and people who think they need pretty houses and lots of stuff to have a normal, happy life (among a couple other things I don’t want to go into right now).

That video was hilarious. Thanks. It made me chuckle. I’m going to show it to my daughter tonight - after I let her out of the closet, of course.

Paul, Damn! I did not know that about Ted Olsen. I thought he was just poor Barbara’s widower (and no Dusty, I’m not making fun of Barbara’s horrific death). Yes, I can see where that could have been a problem.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

mm

I’ve a feeling we already are.

Isn’t it amazing? Not too many years ago Dems couldn’t shake the “big spender” label and it cost elections. In the past six years the Reps did the same and look at the 2006 elections.

Some take issue with [[At least the Dems find a way to pay for their expenditures. Yes, with taxes]] as other alternative exist - such as reducing, modifying or eliminating current programs. But when the default position is new taxes, many get alienated.

Rep Rangel sees the difficulty with the pay as you go rules - Dems seem to want to eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax, which is snaring more and more middle class families, but paying for it will mean forgoing billions and billions and billions (the “take” is rising steeply each year).

I wish them well, before more families get ‘screwed.”

getalife wrote some months ago about the Comptroller General’s speeches regarding the terrible deficits looming over Medicare. I’m interested to see how those figures get rolled into the health care debate.

By RE

September 18, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Wanna hear a crazy thought?

what if the US military would only fight if US territory were directly attacked.

US “interests” do not count, we are interested in everything.

How big of a military would we need to defend our borders?

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I think the difference in your war view and mine is that I don’t see us having started it at all and I view Iraq as a battle in the war not THE war.

As for Iraq we DID change the strategy and General Petreaus just gave an interim report on the success and challenges of the new plan.

The housing market will go through this correction cycle and come out just fine on the other end.

By RE

September 18, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

other end= 10 years

depending on how fast inflation catches up to pricing.

By Second Stupidest Post Du Jour

September 18, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

””’As for Iraq we DID change the strategy and General Petreaus just gave an interim report on the success and challenges of the new plan.”””’

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

RE,

Are you suggesting we pull out of NATO too?

By AmVet

September 18, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Hello all. Just popping in for a moment then, I’m off to the races again.

I see where some of the conversation today was about one of my passions, music.

I read some of the comments (somebody said the best music ever was from the 80s?????!!!!!) and the bands/artists mentioned and all I can do is paraphrase Dan Akroyd, “Janes, you ignorant sluts!”

I should slap most of you collectively with a juicy piece of vinyl.(For you youngsters, google it!)

Enjoy the day peeps!

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch September 18, 2007 3:47 PM Duh, Look man, you are not going to change my mind, just like I’m not going to change yours, okay? You believe what you want, that’s okay with me, and I’ll believe what I want, which should be okay with you.}}}}

So then why did you start the conversation with me? Were you hoping that a little bit of misplaced guilt would make me cave and become a global warming heretic?

It really is kind of sad, your beliefs are based on some rhetoric from a few whackjobs in Hollywood and your guilty conscious, I present you with indisputable facts and historical data, and you just off handedly dismiss the evidence.

So what proof is your beliefs based on Bosch, or is it too tiring to remember?

How you ever made it on Doom’s good list, I’ll never know.

~~~~~~

{{{{By RE September 18, 2007 3:52 PM Tell you what, just for you, I would advise you to go out and purchase a few investment homes and put all your money in the US dollar. SHow your pride.}}}}

RE: We did-

{{{{ING Clarion Global Real Estate Income Fund (IGR)At 4:02PM ET: 19.15 Up 0.40 (2.13%)}}}}

Like I would ever listen to you, geez.

That would be like ignoring the people with all the money.

What’s up libs, buy a huge house on an ARM?

I’d be sweating it to, but I wasn’t that stupid.

Duh.

By RE

September 18, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Nato too.

Imagine if france, germany, Italy and GB had to defend themselves.

Oh wait, they can.

Crazy idea, isn’t it.

By DebbieDoRight

September 18, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Has anyone seen this video? It’s about the kid from UF getting arrested for asking Kerry a question.

http://www.wsoctv.com/video/14130541/index.html

By RE

September 18, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

IGR,

net loss over 3 month, 6 month, and 1 yr period before factoring in dollar deflation.

Nice fund dunce.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Wow, people are actually seeing through the dog and pony show that Gen. Petraeus put on (with his back-up dancer, the Decider). Go figure.

RE — I’m not in favor of pulling out of NATO, personally. I think alliances are very important. Besides, pulling out of NATO would not have prevented this disaster: we went into Iraq despite NATO, not because of it. No one in NATO was threatened by Saddam. On the other hand, if another Hitler arises, do you really want France or England fending for themselves?

By RE

September 18, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

$0.02 on the music:

Allman brothers, and government mule, which most of you probably have not heard of. Great live shows, thick electric slide guitar and bluesy roots.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

It’s not too much of a shock that that moonbat pestering Kerry about impeaching Bush and Skull and Bones and then resisting arrest is a politically active, liberal, journalism major, is it?

By Paul

September 18, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

DDR

I believe you meant to link here?

Link: [UF student tasered]*(http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detail.html?rss=mia&psp=news)

That link provides a news report, plus the video is in the middle of the page under “Related Stories” “Student Shot with Taser.”

There are a couple videos showing just the end - makes it seem as if a guy was Tasered while walking away.

BTW - many police depts have policies - cops get tasered during training, if they taser on the job they get tasered. I think that’s a pretty good policy.

The guy’s attitude was incredible - at a University forum but wouldn’t ask a question and sit down because he had to educate the audience first - then he had not one, but several questions to ask that were much more important than anyone else’s.

What’s the guy’s political persuasion, again?

By RE

September 18, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Rushncap,

I have a tough time seeing, when you factor in the cost we pay for our military obligations due because of NATO how NATO is beneficial to the US on balance.

More cost than benefit, my opinion

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

RW, Yeah, I guess we just see the war, or THE war a little different. Yes, Petraeus did just give his report, and from what I’ve heard as far as a response from the general populace, they heard it and thought, “whatever.” The American population want out of Iraq, or at least to regroup the effort (which is more towards how I lean). They want OBL, they don’t care about the Iraqi people shooting themselves and certainly do not like our soldiers in the middle of their choice for a civil war.

The housing market will be okay, it’s just going to be interesting who profits from it. I see this as another S&L thing. It will be alright on the other end, but in the meantime I have a feeling it’s not going to be the poor or middle class who will benefit much.

AmVet - What do you know old man? :-)

Duh, My intention wasn’t to debate you on global warming, I was simply trying to make a point about misconceptions people have. And believe it or not, I don’t base my opinions on rhetoric, I’m willing to listen differing opinions.

For you to say that your opinion and data is absolute and irrefutable is simply a lie - you’re being hypocritical - you can claim absolute truth, but I can’t? It just doesn’t work that way. Nothing is absolute, except that one day you and I and everyone else are going to die, and those who know anything about research and how it’s conducted knows that.

Data is data - I don’t dismissively repute it. I know how data is collected and how it is analyzed, and it is always analyzed and interpreted by those who pay for it to be collected. There are ways to detect if the data collected is valid and reliable - those two factors are the two biggies to look at.

As far as Doom is concerned, are you just a little bit jealous that I have a friend?

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE September 18, 2007 4:55 PM | IGR, net loss over 3 month, 6 month, and 1 yr period before factoring in dollar deflation. Nice fund dunce.}}}}

RE: Now look at the two year period and see how it doubled right in the middle? Notice the downward trend that started right when the Fed raised interest rates? That’s when I took my money out of it, just like all smart investors did.

But today, interest rates back down, money back into real estate funds.

Just like everybody else did.

Duh.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

One more time

Link: UF Student Tasered at Kerry event

Rule of thumb: cops with clubs or tasers are escorting you out of an event, don’t struggle, yell or give an excuse. Unless you’re looking for five minutes of fame. Some of those guys are way too trigger-happy.

By @@

September 18, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Well I must say….I am very pleased with where Petraeus has left Ahmadenijad sitting.

pouting in a corner…asking to address the U.S. on Iraq…and requesting an audience with the U.N.

Thanks President Sarkozy. United we stand. United that little twit’s options become limited.

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

RE, I have to agree with rushncap on that the NATO thing. NATO was created so that WWII won’t happen again. We basically told NATO to f*** off with Iraq, and see where it got us? Unilateral military maneuvers are never a good thing. No one country can defend itself, not even us.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Paul,

This video of the UF moonbat shows the whole thing from start to finish and gives a much clearer picture of why the cops saw him as a potential threat. Right from the start he almost takes a swing at the lady cop that put her hand on his back.

By RE

September 18, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Of all people andy, I think you should put as much of your money in the real estate market as possible. Hey, why don’t you put in a big buy at countrywide while you are at it.

Little math problem for ya

a $100 investment nets back $107 at the end of the year. In the same year the dollar drops in value 10%. How much money did you make?

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

RE — I think NATO is like flood insurance: you pay money for it, hope to god you don’t ever need it, but when you do need it, you REALLY need it. I think a more legit question is whether the future threats to the securities of nations like the U.S. would come from entities which we would have a hard time handling on our own (like China, resurgent Russia or something) or from small non-governmental agents (like al Quaeda). But even in the case of latter, I’m sure NATO enables easier cooperation between intelligence agencies of various nations, and leads to arrests like we saw in Germany and Great Britain over the past few months.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I’m never very persuaded by polling data. Every time I hear somebody base their decisions on what the majority, that is generally clueless anyway, thinks it reminds me of Bill Clinton.

Do you think if the majority was always right Las Vegas would look anything like it does today?

By Paul

September 18, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Thanks - must be on overload - won’t connect. The vid on the page I linked has it from when he was partway through his lecture. Was way away from asking a question.

I believe this is the generation of students who expect “do-overs” if they bomb a test. Maybe Sen Kerry would be good enough to return for another event so this guy can try again?

Again, his attitude - I know better than you and must educate you - was sickening. Journalism major? He should change - so many just know journalists are not biased, or liberal, at all. He won’t fit in. That realization will just be too stressful for him.

Oh yeah. Sarc.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Do you think if the majority was always right, RW, we’d have Shrub in the White House rather than cleaning some outhouse?

By RE

September 18, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

but what do WE get from THEM?

Come on, the only military of any consequence is GB. So we spend more money on our own military to protect all of europe, leaving the europeans free to spend money on things other than thier own defense. On the balance, we lose out.

By @@

September 18, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

That guy in RW’s video link was wired a little tight.

“People know I’m here!”

“Oh no, they’re giving me to the government!”

“They’re gonna kill me!”

He sounded a lot like some of ml’s paranoid liberals.

The cameras were rolling for crying out loud.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Well, RE, this is a question of how to fairly handle the burdens. This is not an argument against having common burdens. What we get from Europe is their willingness to commit troops and resources in defense of our national interests. Now, are we carrying the heavier load? Sure. Why? Because we can. Of course we can leave all the other countries to fend for themselves… but do you think America would be in very good shape if England or France were destroyed? Even disregarding common roots, interests and values, America’s greatest strength is business. Losing one of our great economic partners would hurt our own economy tremendously. Hell, American markets take a hit when the Japanese stock exchange dips. Now imagine London stock exchange disappearing altogether…

By Paul

September 18, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Rushncap - RE

Although NATO was formed to counter the Soviet threat to western Europe after WWII, and the Soviet Union and the former communist states imploded in the early 1990s, NATO has formed new missions and purposes. The US presence in Europe is dramatically lower than it was during the Cold War.

Here’s a pretty good paper on NATO’s current role (may seem spot on if Putin keeps on his current path) -

Link: The Role of NATO in Central and Eastern Europe

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Rushncap, Bravo.

RW, I agree (except for the Bill Clinton remark).

Off to soccer practice! Have a good evening all!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 18, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Liberal Lies and Propaganda:

Republican U.S. Justice Department official John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a 5 year old child. An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police. In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that “you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents.” The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, ” I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice.” The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, “Just gotta go slow and very easy. I’ve done it plenty,” according to detectives. The former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans, Michael Flory, admitted Tuesday that he sexually abused a colleague during a national convention in Cleveland last summer Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16. Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls. Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy. Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13. Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls. Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.

Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later. Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet. Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 18, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

More Liberal Lies and Propaganda:

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy. Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business. Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl. Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls. Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls. Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet. Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch September 18, 2007 5:15 PM I know how data is collected and how it is analyzed, and it is always analyzed and interpreted by those who pay for it to be collected.}}}}

So why can’t you tell me what your evidence is, it seemed like a pretty simple request?

As far as Doom being your friend, I am not a vain person like most libs are, I could care less whether you two love each other or not.

I was just wondering what he saw in you.

~~~~~~

RE: I’ve been quite rude, let me try to make it up and share some money making secrets with you.

Remember the 90’s when Klintoon was prez, all the rage was the “internet start ups” and “cash burn” with investors speculating on a firm’s viability.

When investors ran out of money to burn and since 95% of these abberitions couldn’t turn a profit, every thing came crashing back to Earth and the economy fell into a recession in 2001, which of course, you toadies blamed on Bush.

But the real point of the story is, do you think investors will ever again put capital into companies for them to burn on start up? Very unlkely.

Now translate that into today’s real estate market. When I was making money hand over fist, people were doing some pretty silly things, like buying huge houses on adjustable rate mortgages, and others who bought flipped houses at greatly exagerrated values.

So the Fed, and by the way I like this Berneke, raised interest rates and put the brakes on this foolish activity, which weeded out those in way over their heads and has made a nice inventory of unsold homes, a somewhat buyer’s market.

This next round of buying is going to be less frenetic, without the “at whatever cost” motivations and will produce a more stable market.

People know about ARMs now, they are not going to sell their houses for half price, values will level out or may even rise based on increased demand.

These factors I will watch, carefully, and make day to day, well thought out decisions based on knowledge and information from those that I trust.

I will not, under any circumstances, especially concerning my money, run around shrieking like a chicken with it’s head cut off, like you are.

Know what I mean?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 18, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

More Liberal Lies and Propaganda:

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial. Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s. Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

rushncap RE

Here’s a CBO paper (1999) showing the relative cost among the member states to support NATO. US share is about same as Great Britain, just larger than Germany’s.

Link: NATO cost shares

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 18, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

More: Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 18, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

And finally:

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls. Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

When we the libs stop trying to smear us and act like we all are a bunch of perverts and criminals? We are the family values party and our record speaks for itself.

RWNJIFG

By RE

September 18, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

“which weeded out those in way over their heads and has made a nice inventory of unsold homes, a somewhat buyer’s market”

Nice understatement. 10 month surplus and builders going belly up left and right. How do you sit down to type with your head buried up your rectum anyway?

By getalife

September 18, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

gop freak show.

Geez.

Just heard the spy chief say that China and Russia are spying to cold war levels while we waste resources in a third world oil occupation.

There are many ongoing consequences and future disasters awaiting us for w’s occupation for oil.

The best thing that could happen for our country is for w and cheney to resign in disgrace.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

There’s a pretty big difference between polling a cross section of people and extrapolating the results to mean that is majority opinion, which it likely is if the poll was conducted fairly, and taking election results of people that got off their butts and voted and saying the result was wrong because it didn’t match “majority opinion.”

Feel free to re-ask that idiotic question from 5:36 if that wasn’t what you were getting at.

Bosch,

It may just be a kneejerk reaction of yours to disagree when someone like me takes a shot at Billy Jeff Clinton, but it was very well known that he made no decisions without polling data first.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Er, Paul, I hate to quibble, but the U.S. is at 25% of NATO, while the U.K. is at 15.5%. That’s not even close. Germany is closest to us, with almost 20%.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Thanks. I must’ve scanned across to the Civil column. Best to catch now else that impression would have remained.

Of course, what it doesn’t represent (I think) is the stock of weapons, personnel, etc the US maintains to commit to a NATO conflict. That is, stores, personnel, maintained outside the alliance. More fun with numbers -

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

Sorry, RW, I keep forgetting that you don’t believe in the voodoo science of statistics. Mah bad.

By RE

September 18, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Ok, getting miered in the details, the basic point is, how much money would we as a nation save if the US military only protected it’s own national borders.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE September 18, 2007 5:58 PM Nice understatement. 10 month surplus and builders going belly up left and right.}}}}

What did I just say about watching market conditions and selling at the right time?

Maybe if you’d quit worrying about inflation you too could get your finances out of the mire they are in.

Geez, you don’t think a half a point drop is going to create a flurry of buying?

And after that little spike, whammo, back into oil, hahaha.

The big money maker, since we won’t drill our own.

You can measure the seven % gains, I don’t have time.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I guess you don’t believe in the voodoo of learning to read. I said the statistical extrapolation would likely be correct as long as the pool was a proper sampling.

That still doesn’t mean that “majority opinion” is the be all and end all of any debate or topic.

By janice hayes

September 18, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

My God, Republicans are perverts.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

RE — I don’t know how much money we’d save. Frankly, since the 2 alternatives that I see is either a) countries allying with us or b) countries allying against us, I’m not particularly eager to find out. I think strict isolationism has been tried (around the 30’s or so), and has proven to fail with rather dramatic results. We’re a global superpower, RE. Saving a few bucks will not change that. And if we have found out how much damage can be inflicted upon our country by a small band of well-motivated enemies, do you really want to find out what a large coalition of well-motivated enemies can accomplish?

By RE

September 18, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

No, a half point drop will not create any movement in home buying.

Wait till you see the home sales numbers for september/ october. They are going to be under the floor.

Unless they start listing banks buying back forclosed properties as a sale, more fun with numbers.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

RW - I never said public opinion is end-all or be all. If you had honed your stalking techniques, you’d know that I don’t give a rat’s behind what the majority of people think, in so far as it affecting my perception or right and wrong. Public opinion only matters to me as a harbinger of what’s to come. For instance: Bush being elected by public opinion (in 2004) portends the $hithole we find ourselves in, so I was very unhappy on the 3rd of November in 2004. People wanting nothing more to do with Shrub portends an end to neocon cabal’s 8 years of $hitting on this country (and others along with it), so I’m happy about it.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 18, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

{{{{By janice hayes September 18, 2007 6:18 PM My God, Republicans are perverts.}}}}

I counted 23 dead children in your posts^^, but before you congratulate yourself too much, John Wayne Gacy, a Jimmy Carter campaign captain, killed 46.

Duh.

This could go on forever, are you stupid enough to believe all perverts are Republican?

By RE

September 18, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

We are a superpower on the verge of financial collapse. Our obligations outweigh our ability to meet them.

And the way politicians are, it will not change any time soon, no one wants to increase taxes, or cut programs, so we just tack it on to the debt instead.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

RE

Well, it could cost us. Precipitous withdrawals lead to vacuums - and someone else will step in. Witness Ahmadinejad’s latest statements regarding Iraq. You go, we’re in.

US forces in the Pacific have been a brake on N Korea, China for years. (US dramatically cut Korean troop levels during the last election, Kerry and the Dems opposed the reductions. Go figure). Europe? We still want to be part of the alliance - and not have a separate alliance, without us, acting not in concert with our interests. So it’s the price of admission.

An alternate train of thought would be, what would the reductions be if we trained and equipped our forces to deal with the jihadist reality (I know, many Dem candidates dispute that statement) rather than the largely Cold War model we still have? My gosh, why do people think we had no urban warfare vehicles, low stocks of mundane items like body armor? Yet we had plenty for next generation weapons systems. It’s really, really tough to break the old models.

Years ago an author, Drury, I believe, wrote a novel “Pentagon.” In the opening pages he described the Pentagon as a sentient entity, morosely moving on, oblivious to the inhabitants, impervious to any attempt to obstruct its remorseless path. I always liked that description.

By @@

September 18, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

Gosh, I go over to Wooten’s to read and first thing I saw was a paranoid liberal.

(((By Shane September 18, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this)))

(((Is anyone else wondering when the guys in suits with sunglasses and little ear-dongles are gonna come knocking at your door for expressing your opinions online? I’ve already had that happen to a friend of mine…)))

Says it’s happening on a massive scale. Said his/her brother got questioned for having porn on his computer. Didn’t mention how old the “girls” were just said his brother didn’t even download it.

Uh huh!

Now what’s that the liberals always say about fear mongering?

Too funny…just too funny!

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

You’re the moron that jumped into Bosch and my conversation with that nutty “question” at 5:36. I never thought you cared about public opinion in the least since your favorite argument is that if someone isn’t an expert in any given field they should STFU. Which disqualifies you from just about any topic other than possibly self-gratification, by the way.

I actually agree with you on the need for alliances around the world regardless of whether it costs us a few dollars more than if we didn’t have them. Isolationism to the extent RE is proposing is signing our own death warrant.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

RW — if you don’t want your posts commented on, don’t put them up on a public blog. There’s no need to get p** with me. Not to mention that I actually agreed with you — public opinion is worth very little. It’s amusing how easily you get your Underoos in a bunch, though.

By RE

September 18, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Listen to what you are saying, you are advocating that our military area of obligation is the ENTIRE WORLD. It just is not sustainable.

the US is not obliged to stop every civil war, nor protect every nation from agression on the face of the earth. We have been living that way far too long. Let other nations sort out thier own problems.

By @@

September 18, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Oh my gosh!!! I didn’t even stop to think that rushncap might be Shane’s brother.

My apologies…how insensitive of me.

By RE

September 18, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

“Isolationism to the extent RE is proposing is signing our own death warrant.”

Get the midol out, RW is going into hysterics. Death warrant? Really? by scaling back our military abroad to protect the homeland? How fearful are you

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

rushncap is showing a fascination with little kids underwear today, so you may be onto something.

By rushncap

September 18, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

@@’s been waiting weeks to unleash that gem upon the board. Yawn……

RE — no one is saying “the whole world”. On the other hand the whole argument of “let them kill each other, it’s too expensive to stop” does not wash with me either.

By getalife

September 18, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Minding your own business is death warrant?

Geez.

By Midori

September 18, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

{{{{This could go on forever, are you stupid enough to believe all perverts are Republican?}}}}}}

you may not have cornered the market, however, it’s not for lack of trying

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

RE,

If you meant scale back in some areas I might agree with you, but you seem to be saying that we should get out of ANY alliances and remove ALL of our troops from ANY country in the world and just say to hell with anybody else unless we personally get attacked and then presumably only respond if we were attacked by an actual country.

That would most definitely be signing our own death warrant.

By Paul

September 18, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

RE

(grin). So what I’ve described is the current reality? I’ve never said it’s wise, or sustainable - it’s just what is. In fact, I’ve regularly criticized our force structure and some of our obligations.

Describing or commenting is not advocating.

We need to take a real hard look at the current crop of candidates,if that is a criteria. Obama said “so what” regarding genocide in Iraq - then listed numerous areas where that’s the case and we aren’t involved. But many candidates advocate a kind of “stop the suffering if the casualties are acceptable” view of foreign policy.

Get ready for the “don’t you care?” questions - like SecState Albright’s question (which I regularly quote) of “what’s the good of having this military if you never use it?”

By Bosch

September 18, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Soccer practice was cancelled, time for one more post -

RW, I agreed with you about Las Vegas and that the majority of Americans are typically not willing or able to form their opinions based on actual data. Most Americans, in my opinion, WANT people to tell them what to think, even when they claim the contrary. I also agree that public opinion is not very reliable, because public opinion can change on a whim, Americans are really ADD, and they care more about the next American Idol than who runs the country.

Duh, Where’s your proof that global warming isn’t created by man? Just like any “proof” I could find, you could find “proof” to the contrary. It’s a silly game.

I’m not a climatologist - my opinion doesn’t matter in this topic. I believe what I believe and you do to. I base my beliefs on what I feel is credible evidence, and so do you. So who is right? Who is wrong? Neither one of us can say for sure, now can we?

It has always been my practice to never trust anyone who speaks in absolutes - that their opinions and beliefs are irrefutable and always right. That’s why I don’t trust fundamentalist preachers.

By RE

September 18, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Death warrant, again.

Ok, how are we signing our own “death warrant”

Are we going to be invaded? I think you watched Red Dawn one too many times.

By @@

September 18, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

That little gem only became available when your brother/sister Shane posted at Wooten’s TODAY.

By RW-(the original)

September 18, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

RE,

If another Hitler arose and started picking off other countries amassing and strengthening themselves with us just sitting back doing nothing because we hadn’t been attacked it’s pretty hard to believe they would attack us before they had basically accomplished world dominance first. They learned that after Pearl Harbor with it’s premature attackulation.

It simply naive to think we don’t need to be players on a world stage and our survival truly depends on it.

I’ve never seen Red Dawn, is it any good?

Bosch,

That’s the truth about so many wanting to be told what to think. That’s another reason I think most news organizations doing polls is such BS. First they run a month of stories telling their readers what to think and then they poll them about what they think and report it as news. It’s pretty bizarre when a news source creates it’s own content.