Mike Luckovich

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

This terrible President has lost the confidence of the nation.

By Speedy

September 10, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

This cartoon was funny, and it really worked because you glance at the figures talking at the mic and then you read what the couple is saying, and then you go back and see it’s Bush holding hand and feet puppets. A master puppeteer at work!

A master cartoonist 2!!

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 10, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

{{{{The failure to disclose Mr. Hsu’s contribution network by Mrs. Clinton is significant. “It would paint a map for the press—if it was interested—of who Hsu is and what he was attempting to gain,” says radio host Hugh Hewitt. That Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama talk such a good game about the need for disclosure of bundlers and their activities and yet won’t or can’t reveal any information about Mr. Hsu’s network of donors is yet more evidence of why we should pay attention to what politicians do, not what they say.}}}}

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Crittenden, full of wit and sarcasm:

And there you have it. It’s hopeless. After all, we know from the experience of Northern Ireland and Bosnia that it is impossible to stop ethnic and sectarian violence. Fighting and dying to bring stability to some of the world’s most critical, problematic real estate, not worth it. These people are animals. They will never live peacefully with each other. Abandonment, genocide preferred.

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Wingnuts the world over:

{{{{Germany considers increased spying on Muslims}}}}

Duh, shouldn’t we all be “spying” on Muslims?

{{{{LONDON — Tens of thousands of immigrant workers will be forced to learn English before they are allowed into Britain under a plan Prime Minister Gordon Brown is expected to announce tomorrow in a speech to the Trades Union Congress in Brighton, informed sources revealed yesterday.}}}}

Instead of learning how to collect government benefits, why, that’s a novel idea.

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They gave the Communists a victory in Vietnam, now they want to give the terrorists a victory in Iraq:

{{{{Democrats make pre-emptive strike on Iraq reports}}}}

{{{{Some recent numbers from MNF-I indicate that real progress is being made. For example, the number of dead civilians in all categories (not just ethno-sectarian violence) fell from 2,193 in December to 575 last month for a 74 percent drop. Wounded civilians fell from 876 in December to 302 last month, a 66 percent decline. If the the Democrats and their political allies have evidence that these statistics are erroneous, then by all means they should present it. But they should stop slandering the good name of Gen. Petraeus — especially given that favorite talking point about how much they “support the troops.”}}}}

By Jesus

September 10, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By mountain man

September 10, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

It would be nice if we could get Andi Duh to quit cluttering up this blog. For a while I thought (hoped) that they had finally put him in a home or something.

Bush and his minions will never give up on their misadventure in Iraq. You got to give them credit for being stupidly stubborn. Hell, they haven’t even admitted that Vietnam is a mistake yet.

By Anonymous

September 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

If Bush were a master puppeteer, wouldn’t he have better control over the countless members of his administration who’ve bailed out, exposed the lies, and otherwise discredited this blundering, doomed agenda?

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

Your chance of dying in a terrorist attack is 1 in 88,000.

What about the odds of death by other causes?

1 in 55,928 of death by lightening

More from the CDC

I just don’t understand the Terror-fied.

By Speedy

September 10, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Well Godzilla, have you ever computed the odds of dying by Mothra? or by the entire US army shooting armor piercing depleted uranium molten round filled with magma? they’re 100%, and that’s all any jihadist needs so you better convert to Islam today, sir or madam, (will you read my book it took me years to write wont you take a look)

Osama Bin Laden’s beard is dyed black. That means he’s not living in caves anymore. He’s out amoungst the peoples. He’s disquised, and if you just add thick-rimmed glasses he probably looks like Borat, which means nobody could spot him, not even a drone.

Osama must have finally seen every single episode of “the Fugitive” and saw how David Jansen avoided all those cops for all those years with just a single bottle of black hair dye.

Add a cigar, and you’ve got Grouchoma Bin Laden, “Last night, one of my wive’s shot an infidel in her burka. How he got in there I’ll never know.”

By AmVet

September 10, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Excellent cartoon Mike! Very funny.

It goes to the very heart of the matter how the fanatical and easily duped Bush neo-conservatives will believe ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the man says.

I cannot imagine ONE single solitary ex-President in the entire history of this country (except for Dad, of course) who would even give this president a passing grade.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Speedy,

It’s Mrs. Godzilla, please.

And the point of your post is what?

Looks to me that you are one of the terror-fied.

By Speedy

September 10, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Can Godzilla breath fire? Is he, then, a dragon, and if so, what kind of dinosaur is impersonating him in all those movies?

Or is it just a gila monster on stilts?

I wanna know.

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

A rediculous cartoon! Badly drawn, impossible premise and obviously purely political. If you have to “figure out” a cartoon, then it is lost.

Other than that, yeah, it is perfect for all liberals who would say chicken-scratch is wonderful if it knocks Bush, the leader of the free world.

Duh for Democrats@ 8:32, that is interesting news about Gordon Brown wanting all new immigrants to the UK to be able to speak English. I wonder if that will pass? I think this Prime Minister has a good head on his shoulders, just like President Bush.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Speedy,

Got your number now. No biggie.

By Bosch

September 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Welcome back Mrs. G! I think Speedy watches too much television. You think? Do you think we should tell him/her that Godzilla wasn’t real, but a made up ficitonal character?

Maybe Speedy’s right. Maybe our intelligence has been fooled because Bin Laden’s beard is now black instead of gray.

By Slow but steady

September 10, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Wow! Imagine that!

A “purely political” political cartoon.

I thought I smelled the burning oil smoke of the simple neo-conservative thought process.

It’s too funny that she had to figure this cartton out!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Thanks, Bosch.

I also noticed Lou Dobbs’ seems to be coloring his hair as well.

Is this all pre-election primping?

Can we expect Rudy to wear a rug?

By Truthman

September 10, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Be nice to us, or we’ll bring Democracy to YOUR country!!

—Dick Chencey

By getalife

September 10, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

So, what do we win in Iraq?

Nothing, just wasted lives and a trillion of your money.

Here is another toon

Geez.

By Republican Family Values

September 10, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

THEN: SPEARS: Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens.

NOW: LAS VEGAS - As in most train wrecks, it was hard to focus on just one thing as the Britney Spears disaster unfolded on MTV’s Video Music Awards. There was just so much that went wrong.

Another Republican Pop-Tart implodes and shows the world the true face of Republican Family Values!!!!

In the worlds of the world’s most famous Marine, “Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!”

By Poof The Magic Drag Queen

September 10, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Four More Top GOP Outings Could Be in the Offing

By I Fought iN Iraq and All I Got Was.......

September 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

This lousy double amputation.

By I Fought In Iraq and All I Got Was.......

September 10, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

a broken marriage.

By rushncap

September 10, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Uh, guys, we need to lay off @@, Dusters, Danish, RW et al. Apparently it’s just that their brains aren’t really functioning well. They’re just a bit slower than the liberals.

It’s still OK to make fun of li’l andy because, well… because there is no excuse for whatever it is he is.

By GI Joe with Kung Fu grip

September 10, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Pentagon plans base along Iran border

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 10, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Anti Radical September 10, 2007 10:12 AM NOW: LAS VEGAS - As in most train wrecks, it was hard to focus on just one thing as the Britney Spears disaster unfolded on MTV’s Video Music Awards. Another Republican Pop-Tart implodes and shows the world the true face of Republican Family Values!!!!}}}}

Spammie: You may look to the perverts in Hollywood for foreign policy direction and guidance on how to live your life, but Conservatives don’t.

That’s why we are not filthy scumbags like you, celebrating the death of a political rival, rejoicing over a Congressman’s untimely demise.

So pinning Britney Spears on the Republican Party may make you feel all excited and joyful, but in reality you are just a silly little two bit common wanker.

By tiff

September 10, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Dusty, are you sure your not George Bush Sr. posting under this name. Because only a parent would give an idiotic child this much credit, knowing he is a complete failure. Either that or your being paid for writing this bull.

By Woof, woof

September 10, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, a moderate Republican, said he respected Petraeus’ judgment but would not blindly follow it.

“We’re going to look behind the generalizations that General Petraeus or anybody gives us and probe the very hard facts to see exactly what the situation is,” Specter said. “As I’ve said in the past, unless we see some light at the end of the tunnel here, very closely examining what General Petraeus and others have to say, I think there’s a general sense that there needs to be a new policy.”

General Pets-R-Us ca’t even convince Republicans that he ain’t King George’s shoe-shine boy.

Lick dat boot Genrl, good doggie, sit up, roll over, BEG!!!!

By Truthman

September 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

“Cheney may have had hand in Nukes “accidently” loaded on B-52”

Could it have been practice for Iran bombing?

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/364871.shtml

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

All you bright and early brainwashed liberals, Luckovich is right at your level this morning. Hand puppets and play toys and muddled.

Speedy? That is PoFo. He didn’t get enough laughs at Little Five Points last weekend so he dumps his “jokes” on us. He will probably repeat them many times so you libs will get the point, if there is one. Gonna be a “Speedy” day for PoFo.

And welcome back, Mrs. Godzilla. I see you have all your DNC facts right at hand to “shock” us. Too bad it sounds like so much propaganda straight from headquarters. And don’t forget the cute closer. We would miss those little chuckles.

I don’t guess that any of you are pleased that the “surge” is getting some good results. NO, that doesn’t interest you at all. After all, if things are going better in Iraq it will make Bush look justified and you don’t want THAT. (Now line up all your “excuses” for retreat.)

By rushncap

September 10, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Does it fall to me to make fun of Dusters for whining that she has to “figure out” the cartoon? Come on people! Pick up the slack! I have a busy day, what with the lithography, and the swing dancing and the insurance sign-up-ing…

By Ignatz al Bubba Iraqi

September 10, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Iraqis’ Own Surge Assessment: Few See Security Gains

By Silly LittleTtwo Bit Common Wanker.

September 10, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Aaaaw, You hut ma feelins. LMAO

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Dusty, the warmth of your welcome underwhelms me.

As does your prose.

By Sailor

September 10, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Here’s my Andi/e-duh supporting the troops!

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 10, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Silly Little Two Bit Common Wanker Anti Radical September 10, 2007 10:25 AM General Pets-R-Us ca’t even convince Republicans that he ain’t King George’s shoe-shine boy.}}}}

So who would you want to decide what the situation on the ground in Iraq is, the Generals who are there everyday or superstrokes like Spammie?:

{{{{Americans trust military commanders far more than the Bush administration or Congress to bring the war in Iraq to a successful end, and while most favor a withdrawal of American troops beginning next year, they suggested they were open to doing so at a measured pace, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.}}}}

That’s what I thought.

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

rushncap, 10:21

You rate right along with Woof,woof this morning. I believe Woofie has a little more on the ball than you. He can “sit” and “bark” at the same time.

By Bosch

September 10, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Rushncap, I’m trying to be a better person. Karma, you know. :-)

By ed lorenzo

September 10, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

We are Dying to Hear that Report

For the past several weeks, the entire nation has been subjected to unbearable suspense resulting from the Truth and Consequences Game being played by the Administration, the various Senate factions and our loyal Armed Forces. In the process, the media has reported considerable increases in readership, viewership and revenues from advertising of programs hosted by strident and slightly flat-linered talking heads. The debates have not helped. Matters still remain as confusing and worrisome as they were months ago with Iraq being the main dish. So, we are coming to the end of the farce. In a few hours there will be appearances by distinguished generals, admirals, Secretaries of this and that and ultimately, the wise dictums of our beloved president. But let me allow you to witness how this great dramatic production looks as seen with a bit of second guessing technology.

PRESIDENT: “What say General? What about Iraq?” PETRAEUS : “Interesting question. What say General Pace?’ GENERAL PACE : Yes. How about it Admiral Fallon?” ADMIRAL FALLON : Let us hear from you General Casey” GENERAL CASEY : You were saying Secretary Gates?” SECRETARY GATES : Ready Miss Perkins?’ MISS PERKINS : Colonel Nash, we are listening” COL NASH : Captain Zellner, we await your words” CAPT. ZELLNER : Sergeant Cerbone, ready for you” CAPT. CERBONE : Sergeant York, please tell us” SGT. YORK : Corporal Ferguson, your turn!” CORPORAL FERGUSON : (yelling) “Hey! Manolo, the summary of the presentation, chop, chop!” PFC MANOLO TOVAR ESCOBAR: Señor Presidente, Grandes Jefes, ilustres Senadores, miembros de los medios de comunicación público en general. He llegado a la conclusion de que esta condenada guerra me está perjudicando. No he recogido lechugas en seis meses, mi jardin se asemeja a las selvas del Amazonas y no he envasado un pollo en seis meses! Propongo un cese inmediato y unas recompensa acada soladado de cien mil dólares y un nuevo “lawnmower”. He dicho!”

By Truthman

September 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Another blog from a family member of a kid serving in Iraq.

Quite unlike Andi/@@/Dusty and the rest of the chickenhawk neo-conmen and women on this site!!

Support YOUR prez..Enlist! Now!!

By Truthman

September 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Another blog from a family member of a kid serving in Iraq.

Quite unlike Andi/@@/Dusty and the rest of the chickenhawk neo-conmen and women on this site!!

Support YOUR prez..Enlist! Now!!

http://www.progressiveu.org/211436-the-wars-unrecognized-agonies

By Coming Soon to Your Neighborhood

September 10, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

PIEDRAS NEGRAS, Mexico - A truck carrying explosives for the mining industry exploded after running into another vehicle in northern Mexico, killing at least 37 people, a federal police official said Monday.

Ya know it used to be that this sort of thing happened only in third world shiite-holes like Mexico.

Now King George has invited them to your neighborhood and mine!!! Whatta guy. Whatta ‘Grand Ole Party’.

The U.S. plans to give as many as 25 Mexican firms permission to haul cargo north of the border by the end of the month, and will add another 25 per month until reaching 100 — for a total of 1,000 trucks — by year’s end under a one-year pilot program.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Coming soon to your neiborhood.

I went to Rep. John Linder’s townhall meeting a couple of weeks back.

He swore up and down that there was no way Bush was going to allow that to happen.

Just love the truthiness.

By Camel Vision

September 10, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Overwhelming numbers of Iraqis say the U.S. troop buildup has worsened security and the prospects for economic and political progress in their country, according to a poll released Monday that provides a strikingly bleak appraisal of the war.

Forty-seven percent want American forces and their coalition allies to leave the country immediately, the survey showed, 12 percent more than said so in a March poll as the troop increase was beginning. And 57 percent — including nearly all Sunnis and half of Shiites — said they consider attacks on coalition forces acceptable, a slight increase over the past half year.

Yup that thar troop surge has got them camel-jockeys seein thangs OUR way now. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!

By wildbillhiltner

September 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

For one who toe taps in the restroom to publish this sort of cartoon is despicable and nothing less. Petraeus is a man of honor who prays everynight for the success of his plan and the safety of his men. Lewdkovih is a disgrace, but so are all the sheeple in the Democratic camp who said the surge would fail and have turned their venom on a noble leader know that it appears that the surge is producing positive results.

By We don'y need no stinking facts

September 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

In vertical bars of blue, green, gray and red, a briefing chart prepared by the Defense Intelligence Agency says what Gen. David Petraeus won’t.

By Coming Soon to Your Neighborhood

September 10, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Mrs G- Hope you took a long hot shower and used plenty of soap when you got home. No tellin what you might pick up amongst all them RepubliPervs.

By Count Innacuracies de la Bush

September 10, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Release of data on Iraqi killings urged Variations in Pentagon’s numbers eyed

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 10, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Silly Little Two Bit Common Wanker Anti Radical September 10, 2007 10:54 AM WASHINGTON - Overwhelming numbers of Iraqis say the U.S. troop buildup has worsened security….Yup that thar troop surge has got them {{{{{{{{camel-jockeys}}}}}}}}}}}

“Camel jockeys?”

Is this what the democrat party and liberals think of the Iraqi people?

“Camel jockeys?”

Would the rest of you kowards like to weigh in with your racist stereotypes, I think we could all have fun finding out what you really think of “those people.”

Show us who you really are.

POS.

By Boots on the Ground

September 10, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD - Iraq’s most powerful Shiite militia leader is turning to his commanders who distinguished themselves fighting U.S. troops in 2004 to screen fighters, weed out criminals and assume key positions in an effort to build a more disciplined force, two of his key lieutenants say.

Is this what King George meant when he said he would let military leaders with boots on the ground decide the course of the war?

By Petraeus: Used War Salesman

September 10, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

The Utter Uselessness of the Petraeus Report
If you think the White House-penned report on Iraq will be anything other than a validation of “the surge” and the Bush administration’s larger strategy, you haven’t been paying attention.

By getalife

September 10, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

They should ask the scab fake General, what will we win and is it worth the lives and the trillion?

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Truthman @ 10:44

Since you know NOTHING at all about the families of those posting here, WHY DON’T YOU ENLIST AND SUPPORT THE COUNTRY?????

We can ask dumb and nosy questions just like you but we try to do better. Try supporting the country instead of being a liberal anti-war bonehead.

By Big Steamy Bowl Of Truth

September 10, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Twenty-Two Things We Now Know Six Years After 9/11

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Well,

I see IN THE NEWS has a new tactic. Uses a different ID but the same old format. Never an original thought. Just liberal reruns all the time. Yawn….

By Eek! A talking chickenhawk

September 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Those who WON’T just “b!tch”

{{{{Since you know NOTHING at all about the families of those posting here, WHY DON’T YOU ENLIST AND SUPPORT THE COUNTRY?????

We can ask dumb and nosy questions just like you but we try to do better. Try supporting the country instead of being a liberal anti-war bonehead.}}}}

I smell hot feathers!

By War Bucks R Duh

September 10, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

“Camel jockeys?”

Would the rest of you kowards like to weigh in with your racist stereotypes, I think we could all have fun finding out what you really think of “those people.”

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Kinda sounds like the conversation you’d here in the welfare line, huh? Bad ole rascists are pickin on poor ole Duh and his buddies.

And 57 percent — including nearly all Sunnis and half of Shiites — said they consider attacks on coalition forces acceptable, a slight increase over the past half year.

A 57% majority of these CAMEL-JOCKEYS want to blow our troops off the face of the world while hiding behind IEDs and little kids but Duh don’t want us to use harsh words in describing them.

Whose side you on Duh? Oh yeh, the side where you can make the most war-bucks!!!!

By The Answer man (NOT)

September 10, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

When Army Gen. David Petraeus testifies next week, here are the hard questions that the nation deserves to have asked and answered, clearly and unequivocally:

By mm

September 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Duh,

I believe you are the wingnut that posts early and often that we should kill all the muslims. Now you are pointing fingers?

It’s ok for you to wish them dead.

You are the POS.

Another week, the same old war chants from the right.

The muslims are coming. The muslims are coming.

BOO!!!

By Dusty has cobwebs where it counts

September 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Every thing outa her mouth is a yawn.

What comes out her a$$ is her political theories.

They both stink!

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

chickenhawk @11:14

What you smell is “flag burning” by liberals. You should have showered when you got home.

By Truthman

September 10, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

First, thanks for reading me!

Second, you lie and lie and lie!!

Don’t expect me to fall for your Bu$hit!!

“Dumb and nosy?” How about truthful and pointed!

You neo-conmen with your false gods and false superiority!!

You, certainly, shall not inherit the earth!!

Try LIVING the Beatitudes! Try LIVING Jesus’ words from Sermon on the Mount!

You can’t do it because you’re Pro-War, Pro-Death and Pro-Rich!!

Have fun passing through the eye of a needle!!

It’s your war you love, go fight for your man - Condi’s sugar daddy!!

By getalife

September 10, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Bin Laden’s back, and Bush is to blame!Bin Laden’s back, and Bush is to blame!Bin Laden’s back, and Bush is to blame!Bin Laden’s back, and Bush is to blame!Bin Laden’s back, and Bush is to blame!Bin Laden’s back, and Bush is to blame!

Geez.

By Anybody Surprised?

September 10, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

By Dusty, wrong again

September 10, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

wrong always

so sad

no sense

no senses

pity her

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 10, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Dusty September 10, 2007 11:14 AM I see IN THE NEWS has a new tactic. Uses a different ID but the same old format. Never an original thought. Just liberal reruns all the time. Yawn….}}}}

Dusty: This isn’t “IN THE PROPAGANDA,” even that lowlife has more class than this Spammie POS does, who is really Anti Radical.

And apparently he must work in public education, seeing how school is in back in session now, he has a lot more time to post racist hatred on a political blog and neglect the kids in his class.

{{{{By mm September 10, 2007 11:21 AM Duh, I believe you are the wingnut that posts early and often that we should kill all the muslims.}}}}

Little child: I got an idea, GFY.

And when you finish up, show me where I said any such thing.

Filth.

By DebbieDoRight

September 10, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

How to look like a dumb hillbilly cop/prosecutor:

ONE: Complain about a free hamburger you didn’t have to pay for.

TWO: Even though you knew the hamburger is too salty on the first bite, continue to eat it, then throw it up.

THREE: Become so angry that you threw up your free hamburger that you have the cook arrested.

FOUR: (For the prosecutor) Carry out the whole farce by making ridiculous comments to the press; and saying things like “She knew it was not up to their standards and served it anyway.” Something that NO restaraunt has ever been guilty of doing.

FIVE: (For the Union City Justice Department) Make sure you tell your tax payers how you’re saving them from the blatant crime of salty hamburgers.

By luckovichisaheadcase

September 10, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Following the logical conclusion of today’s nonsensical cartoon then cartoon boy thinks that if i agree with Bush that the sky is blue at noon then I am just a puppet or a sychophant! You folks are the real sychophants because you are willing to follow the defeatists right back to Munich!!!

By Edgars Back

September 10, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

appears to be a head case.

By getalife

September 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

“Six months. It’s always six months.

The top American commander in Iraq, Gen. David H. Petraeus, has recommended that decisions on the contentious issue of reducing the main body of the American troops in Iraq be put off for six months, American officials said Sunday.”

Geez.

By Big Spender

September 10, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Seemingly taunting Osama bin Laden, President Bush’s homeland security adviser said Sunday the fugitive al-Qaida leader is “virtually impotent” beyond his ability to hide away and spread anti-American propaganda.

So King George now thinks that Osama ain’t that big a deal afterall. Well then, why does his majesty still wanna BLOW OFF $25 MILLION of YOUR hard earned tax dollars on a ‘virtually impotent’ target????

Rewards for Justice- Wanted Usama bin Ladin: Up to $25 Million Reward

By Dubya

September 10, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

The alcoholic imbecile who developed the SURGE plan, and implemented the SURGE plan, is now going to evaluate the SURGE plan. Only in Murcuh, with its ignorant, rancid masses. God Bless Murcuh!! Thee land of Family Values. Praise thee Lord.

By Six Years of Incompetence

September 10, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Six years tomorrow - Osama still free.

Still no justice.

By getalife

September 10, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

“About 70% of Iraqis believe security has deteriorated in the area covered by the US military “surge” of the past six months, an opinion poll suggests.”

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Well, I ‘m out of here for a while…maybe

Truthman has gone to preaching. Too bad ‘cause he’s got it all mixed up with politics in his theocracy.

Salty hamburgers and police are now the the objects of today’s liberal complaints. When you finish knocking the President and the troops, there’s always the police to sqawk about.

Those police!! Trying to make people do the right thing. What do they think they are?

Now, libs, go get a nice super salty hamburger for lunch. And don’t say a word about it ‘cause it is not a thing to worry about, just like you told us. Just go to the ER and grin and bear it.

By Truthman

September 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Obviously, you know I’m right, but, just like your mentor, W, you avoid the truth and keep preaching the propaganda of the Chickenhawk Nation…Bush is right, you liberals are all traitors!!

Hopefully, you’re on your way to the recruiter’s office!

Go over to Iraq and shoot your mouth off!!

By Big Spender

September 10, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

What if al Queda turned Osama in since he is ‘virtually impotent’ now? Do they still get the $25 million reward?

By Republican Lite Lunch Menu

September 10, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Neocon Kool Aid

served with

red herring

By Robin

September 10, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Perfect, Dubya, just perfect. That filthy SOB should be hanged in a public square.

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

No, you are not right or bright in many ways. Sorry about your “condition”. Bye…

By Not Too Lazy After All

September 10, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Thompson Provided Legal Counsel For Pan Am 103 Bombers

By Once a liar....

September 10, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Petraeus “confirmed” to media in 2003 that they had found mobile bio-weapons labs in Iraq. He lied.

By Clyde

September 10, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Dustbrain. Why don’t you look for gainful employment somewhere? With your years in the military, your decades working on Injun reservations, your years in the “medical field,” there must be something useful a hero patriot like you can do.

We’re still waiting for a list of your military duty stations. Where is it?? Why do you stall?? Give us your wisdom and experience, trooper. Gonna keep remkinding you. Shucks, even your kid failed at trying to escape from home. Looks like a total family of fairures, eh? C’mon, cough up those duty rosters.

By DebbieDoRight

September 10, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

[[Salty hamburgers and police are now the the objects of today’s liberal complaints. When you finish knocking the President and the troops, there’s always the police to sqawk about.]]

You know I’m just about sick of your big lying mouth! My husband, the DEMOCRAT is in Iraq NOW. My cousin the DEMOCRAT is in Afghanistan. My support group, have women/men married to 30 REGISTERD DEMOCRATS in Iraq/Afghanistan. My support group singlehandedly went to Walter Reed earlier this year, and registered NEW DEMOCRATS lying on sick beds in the dirty, filthy VA hospitals. 90% of the Iraq/Afghanistan vets who ran for office this past election, were DEMOCRATS.

Get your big dumb head out of your big lazy azz lady, it’s not only repuglican blood being spilled, there are registered DEMOCRATS on the front lines too; and you INSULT every one of them with your arrogance and ignorance.

You preach of “supporting the troops” when you can’t even support your ridiculous statements with facts, just Fox News soundbites. Support the troops, get off your lazy azz and start a “fund drive” for all the broken, crippled veterans of this war who are now permanently disabled. Support the troops by organizing a letter campagin or a blood drive or SOMETHING instead of running your too ignorant to live mouth.

You are too stupid to blog on a political blog. Go on the Brittany Spears blog and talk to your peers. Everytime you say some crap about “liberals not supporting the troops” you are disrespecting not only MY husband, whom you profess to “support”, by every other soldier on the front lines now.

Dumbazz!

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Clyde of phony ID @ 12:26

You first. WHY DON’T YOU ENLIST? WHY NOT? WHAT IS YOUR REAL MILITARY RECORD? WHY ARE YOU UNEMPLOYED? WHY DON’T YOU GIVE US THE MILITARY RECORD OF YOUR FAMILY? WHY DID YOU NEVER MARRY AND HAVE KIDS? WHY ARE YOU SUCH A LOSER?

I’ll read your lies later. Bye..

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 10, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Debbie do Right

Great Post!

Bless you and your husband!

I think the Britney comment is right on the money!

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

What do you know? An anti-war protestor telling us how to support the war? That’s a good one.

Bye now…

By Bye Bye Birdbrain

September 10, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

saying bye, means leaving

so would you please be as good as your word?

OOPS! can’t it’s Bushie.

Never as good as their word

never

By DebbieDoRight

September 10, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

And another thing, my mother and two brothers are POLICE OFFICERS azzhole; my mom’s a cop in Tacoma; one brother in Miami and one in Detroit. You don’t know jack with your big lazy azz about my life. you don’t know about the fear for your family and being startled awake at night afraid that the next call you get might be “the call” that tells you that someone you love has been hurt or maimed or died. YOU DON”T KNOW SQUAT about anyone’s life on here WAR MONGER, so don’t even DEEM to tell us what we are or are not.

You don’t know what me and other military spouses are going through wondering if they’ll ever see their loved one again, yet you open your big toothless mouth and have the gall to tell ME about my life and question MY patriotism because it’s lacking in YOUR VIEW? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? GOD? If I knew who you really were Doggie; I’d spit on you and then I’d spit on that picture of Bush you diddle off to every night.

Neither of YOU have anything to loose in this war, yet you both keep preaching about it’s “benefits”. Spare me your choreographed, pre prgrammed, pre-packaged BushSH#T; and don’t you EVER DARE to call me or anyone else on this board “unpatriotic” — you don’t know WHAT WE GO THROUGH DAILY and how HARD IT IS FOR US TO KEEP IT TOGETHER; without a sorry piece of sh#t like you angry with us for having the GUTS to make it through.

So go to hell Doggie and take that sorry azz “you can’t be for the troops and not the war” BushSh#t with you.

By the end

September 10, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

moral of the story:

dont mess with debbie’s burgers.

By getalife

September 10, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

crusty the clown is a shining example of rushncap’s 10:21 link.

I think it is a mental disease caused by listening to rush, mann, hannity, w, cheney, etc…

She is a goner and should be ignored, the silent minority, if you will.

Geez.

By In case you care

September 10, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Testimony live blogging on Firedoglake

Also

Democratic ARsenal with fact checking as much as possible as they go

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Soooo

Our anti-war protestor who “supports” the troops is now supporting the police by calling one a dumb, hillbilly cop/prosecutor @12:05.

Hmmmmm, that ‘s support? Oh yes, it’s the “liberal way”.

Bye, for now. Maybe…

By Hey Birdbrain

September 10, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Can you make any case without sounding like a thirteen year old?

After all DDR wrote you come back with some supercillious neenerneener!

You must be laughed at everywhere you go. You can’t possibly not notice.

Complain about one cop and she hates them all?

Ever complain about a cop yourself? Or do you enjoy getting pulled over?

You are really a main line goober.

Is your daddy also your brother? Nobody could be as stupid as you are without there being some kind of reason. Looks like inbreeding to me.

By Clyde

September 10, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Watching Petraeus vomiting up the contents of Bush’s bowels.

Dustbrain: Why must you steal you words from my plate? I asked you to give us some military background. You’ve been asked several times by several people, but cannot answer. My own history is too complicated for you to absorb. You wouldn’t understand the lingo used in military orders and forms. So come on, tell us about your history, patriot. Don’t be bashful. Will you hide behind your screen forever? Teaching the unfortunate byproduct of your ugly cohabitation to hide as well? At least he has the basic sense to try to run away from “home.” God, what a place that must be!

By DebbieDoRight

September 10, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

I can call them “hillbilly cops” because that’s what they are. I’m not afraid, unlike you, of looking the truth in the eyes. Just like I can call you a hillbilly, psuedo intelligent, Jethro Bodine wannabe.

Go back to your SEEment pond and your secret “double nought” agent/spy gig. Nought. Nought.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 10, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

{{{{House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton, a Missouri Democrat, began the hearing by telling Petraeus the Iraq war had left the United States unable to confront other challenges. “The troops in Iraq are not available for other missions; to go into Afghanistan to pursue Osama bin Laden” whose al Qaeda militant group attacked the United States six years ago on Tuesday, Skelton said.}}}}

I thought Has Bin Laden was in Pakistan?

It just goes to show that you weak minded surrender monkey democrats have nothing of any substance to add to the debate, other than to expose your effete feminine demeanors, not to mention the fact that you look pitiful and utterly inconsequential when compared to a man like Petraeus, what a national shame that you were even allowed in the same room as him.

You should crawl back under the rock that you kowards came out from.

By Duh Huh Ha Ha

September 10, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

You so funny!

Effete feminine demeaners?

From the party of Foley, Craig, Hastert, Gannon, Rove, McConnell, Frist, McHenry, Drieir,Graham, Haeggard, etc etc etc?

You are one funny poof!

By Two Word Dictionary

September 10, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

I challenge the wingnuts to come up with a discussion point without use of the words Iraq or Liberals.

Have Rush, Hannity, Bortz, et al been able to put any other thoughts into you mental midgets?

Remember, no Iraq talk. No anti-liberal rants.

Do you think you can do it? Do you know how to discuss anything else?

Because Iraq is a fiasco and it is going to allow the liberals to kick your a$$ in the next election.

By AmVet

September 10, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Since the massacre of last November’s elections, I have noticed that those dwindling few far right-bloggers here have been reduced from their c**-sure flaming and bravado to smallish whimpers that seem to be more tailored to trying to convince themselves to remain loyal.

And who can blame them for still trying to misuse words like courage, honor, freedom and democracy? Even the most blind of these stubborn loyalists must from time to time inadvertently see what mainstream America already knows full well - the neo-con movement, as defined by the Bush administration, is almost dead.

What percentage of people who voted for the President either once or twice now rue that decision? Based on recent “approval” ratings, it must be an absolutely enormous number.

And how many times have I picked up a paper or read an on-line article about how someone, even lifelong Republican military officers, say enough is enough. Never again.

Stand strong America. The smell of dying neo-conservatism is unmistakably in the air and poor souls like Dusty and Andy, though enraged, are impotent to delay that sure demise.

Five hundred days or so. That’s all we have to now endure before this “long national nightmare” foisted on the nation by an another unscrupulous Republican administration is once again, over.

By getalife

September 10, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Told ya, they have to draw down.

No extended duty again and sure the troops happy about that.

Stay the course with more wasted lives and billions.

Yea w.

Geez.

By New Investigation into Un-American Activities

September 10, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

I think it’s time we looked real close at folks like Dusty and Duh.

Our parents were scared of Old Joe McCarthy and his anti-american with hunts.

But now, in the 21st century, we have again been infiltrated by UN-AMERICANS.

These guys and gals need to be weeded out.

They need to be forced to wear their political affiliation as a patch on the front of their clothes. I’d suggest a yellow feather.

They don’t believe in America.

They don’t believe in the constitution.

We need to remove these scabs on the face of this nation.

Keep an eye on the neo-con near you.

Maybe the next administration could be talked into using all those nifty new spying powers to listen to these scum.

By Bush Plan to end the War

September 10, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Keep it going until after the 2008 election.

Leave it to the Democrats to clean up the mess, again.

What’s the cost?

Oh, about 100 american service men or women’s lifes. Small change to the neo cons.

By Bush Plan to end the War

September 10, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Let me correct the above

100 or so lifes per month.

By Don't let him betray us.

September 10, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

{{{{Which Intel Agencies? In defending his statistics earlier today, Gen. Petraeus said that two US intelligence agencies had signed off on his methods for collecting and analyzing the data. But he didn’t say which two.

There are 18 US intelligence agencies, though probably a far smaller number have any direct competence for analyzing this kind of question. And Karen DeYoung’s recent piece in the Post reported that the CIA and the DIA was following the same methodology as the GAO, which Petraeus’s shop has said is all wrong. There’s a lot of alphabet soup here, I admit. But the upshot is that the Post seems to be saying that CIA and DIA don’t agree with Petraeus’s methods.

So which two intel agencies is Petraeus talking about? }}}

By RE

September 10, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Damn, the dems are dumb.

I keep seeing the image in my mind of charlie brown going to kick a football and Lucy snatches it away at the last second, Charlie brown falls on his butt again. He falls for it every time. Just like the dems.

This whole petreus report is meaningless. It gives people time to debate endlessly the question” is there progress being made?”. The question will only focus on military casualties and sectarian violence, and people will spend there time picking holes in the numbers, throw in some patriotic rhetoric, and kick hard decisions down the line to the next president.

Here are some questions to ask instead of focusing on petreus, How long will it be before there is a functioning government in Iraq. Right now their government is pretty much collapsed, they cannot get a quorum in parliment, and the factions of Sunni, Shia and Kurd are not making any progress on reconciliation. Whatever happens in certain baghdad areas concerning security is meaningless if there is no functioning government.

We cannot leave until there is a functioning government, how long will that take and where are the soldiers going to come from to serve in Iraq between now and when a funtioning government is in power.

We should be focused on the logistics and funding for the timeframe, instead we are going to hear platitudes about progress and reslove.

By getalife is happy about troop withdrawal

September 10, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

I’ll bet you’ll be waiting at the docks for some troop meat won’t you? HaHaHaHa!

Doom

By Two Word Dictionary

September 10, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

RE is the first wingnut moron to show that he/she cannot discuss anything other than Iraq and Liberals/Democrats.

Which one of you wingnuts is next?

By Shawny

September 10, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Here is a better one. That is MoveOn with their hands up dems arses. Speak into the grenade, err I mean microphone, Mr. General.

By Shawny

September 10, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Here is a better one. That is MoveOn with their hands up dems arses. Speak into the grenade, err I mean microphone, Mr. General.

By We should all be happy about withdrawal

September 10, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

and we should meet our boys and girls at docks, and airports and rail stations

and we should tell them, we will never allow another one of them to die for a war based on lies.

our boys and girls are worth more than the gas in all your g.d. suv’s

By World Class Match Ups

September 10, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

I think MoveOn could whip PNAC, AEI and the Heritage Foundation in 3 rounds!

By Bosch

September 10, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

RE, I think you are totally right on target. Endless debates with no possible solutions are completely meaningless. Your post did give me an idea though, along with sending soldiers to train the Iraqi military and security forces, why don’t we send our politicians over there to train their government officials?
The war would be over tomorrow.

Right now the Iraqi government officials are corrupt thugs who are split in two parties, who care more about their own power and influence, who never try to work on solutions, but would instead rather fight, argue, blame each other for problems, and not show up for work……..wait, this is sounding familiar, oh, um, nevermind.

By RE

September 10, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Far from a wingnut, we should get out of iraq as soon as possible and let the iraqis sort it out.

By Bosch is a whiner

September 10, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

If you think you can do better, than why don’t you enter politics moron?

Doom

By Doomie Poo

September 10, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Good thing you don’t think you can do better…

or we’d be knee deep in doomie poo

By RE

September 10, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

I remember hearing a story about a year ago similar to what you are saying Bosch. The state department was supposed to commit a number of people to Iraq to work with the government and help them set it up and run smoothly. The numbers never materialized, apparently you cannot force a state department worker to go to Iraq like you can send the military, no one wanted any part of it.

By Don't let him betray us

September 10, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Petraeus Falsely Claims That Six Months Ago, ‘No One Would Have Forecast’ Anbar’s Success

By getalife

September 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

“Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon?”

Yes 33 No 58

“Not surprisingly, this correlates very closely to support for the war. In other words, only the moron dead-enders who still believe Iraq had anything to do with 9-11 continue to support the war. If they insist on clinging to the fiction of Saddam’s involvement, they ain’t gonna change their minds on the war itself. All rational human beings have concluded it’s time to get the heck out.”

The dooming down of America.

Geez.

By You need Doom

September 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

The world would be a better place with Doom in charge. One day, I’ll lay out my political strategy and positions to you fools and you will see.

By Speedy

September 10, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

Bush proves that any american can be president. The problem with Iraq is that war always evolves into something different than it started out as, and that transformation is never predictable.

Iraq could end up being a brilliant geopolitical master-stroke of genius by Bush.

Iraq could also end civilization as we know it.

We just dont know, nor should we, for if indeed we realized that tomorrow we die, then our wives would cheat on us all, further confounding our consternation and making cukolds out of every one of us, and that, my fine friends, would be worse than an all out nuclear exchange with pakistan….I say we stay the course.

Viva Petreaus!

By All of you are naive

September 10, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

To conservatives and homocrats:

You are all part of a global conspiracy. You are fighting over bones and scraps that don’t even belong to you. Don’t you think its strange that We haven’t gone after Bin Laden? Bin Laden has nothng to do with what is really going on.

Doom

By Dead mean can't be cuckolds

September 10, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

you dummy.

By Nope Not Naive

September 10, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

To conservapricks and progressives

isn’t doomie poo cute when he gets all spooky.

man of mystery?

the shadow?

nope,

the dorkmiester

By getalife

September 10, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

The first of many lies spewed today:

“Petraeus today before Congress:

When I testified in January, for example, no one would have dared to forecast that Anbar Province would have been transformed the way it has in the past 6 months.

What Petraeus said 6 months ago at his confirmation hearing (via CQ, subscription only link):

“You’ve seen it, I know, in Anbar province, where it has sort of gone back and forth. And right now, there appears to be a trend in the positive direction where sheiks are stepping up, and they do want to be affiliated with and supported by the U.S. Marines and Army forces who are in Anbar province. That was not the case as little as perhaps six months ago, or certainly before that.”

There will be a book.

Geez.

By Speedy

September 10, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

CNN just released a transcript of the latest Osama video. Here’s a snippet:

“Good evening, Ladies, Gentlemen, and Germs. I just flew in from Kabul, and boy, are my WIFE’S arms tired. My arms are tired too, not from flying, but from beating my wife during the flight. I had to beat her, she would not believe that it was not me who put the anthrax in her douchebag. I did not do it. It was not me. Why wouldn’t she believe me. She made me beat her, I think I’m right on this, eh, Mullah McMahon? (“You are CORRECT, sir! HEY HO!”)

I dont think this biological warfare is such a good idea anymore. Why? Cause last night my wife contracted the inhalation form of PMS. It was horrible. I had to beat her again.

I’ll tell you all something. I miss being anonymous. I used to be able to travel everywhere. Why, one year I even visited Broadway and went to a show. You know, I’m still trying to decipher all the coded messages in the “Vagina Monologues”.

Well, I should go now, I hear the B-52’s overhead, and they aint singing “Love Shack”, baby.

By Show yourself when you speak to Doom

September 10, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Only a coward attacks people with a mask. Its ok, I won’t bite. You think I’m a mystery because I turn you on. Admit it.

By No thanks doom

September 10, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

remember this is a masked media!

By AmVet

September 10, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

I believe the main reason that the far-right is so unimpressed with FACTS and evidence is their supposed faith. Their religion not only doesn’t require a shred of evidence to claim something as true, the “faithful” will deny the existence of it when it is contrary to what they want everyone to believe.

One of these usual god-fearing clowns was at Wooten’s on Saturday and made the ridiculous claim that Chuck Hagel was a RINO. I posted a link showing a complete breakdown of the issues and how Hagel stood on them. A semi-informed 12 year old could quickly deduce that Hagel’s voting record was staunchly in line with his party.

This compassionate conservative was not impressed. Why? Because he had some op-ed piece from Australia! He not only relied upon it exclusively he felt it had more weight than the very detailed data I posted.

Not that it matters a wit, but here’s some more:

{Hagel said he’d probably vote with the Republican majority on most occasions since he embraced the Republican philosophy, but he’d “always vote in the Senate based on what is in the best interests of Nebraska and the country.”}

{{And Hagel said he wanted to play a role in helping Nebraska Republicans recover the governorship in 1998.}}

{“I think I can help do that. This election really showed the strength of what we can do together. I’d like to blend what we have done with the party. I’d very much like to play a role in that.”}

{Today, Hagel will tell a news conference in Omaha that two terms is enough and he’ll be leaving the Senate at the end of next year.}

{Looking back to the morning after his first election, it would be hard to argue that he didn’t do what he said he’d do.}

{He supported a Republican president’s legislative agenda 95 percent of the time last year, MORE THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR, while voting with his party 84 percent of the time.}

Yep, I can see how people with such a deep belief in the truth, could ASSert that Hagel is a RINO.

We all know why the neo-cons hate Hagel. There is one reason and one reason only.

By Don't let him betray us

September 10, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

New Thread: Petraeus’s Testimony Fact Check

By Speedy

September 10, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

James Gandolfini did an HBO special last night about wounded Iraqi veterans that was very moving.

He followed the premier of Larry David’s Curb your Enthusiasm, which was very funny.

Curb followed a new series on HBO about couples and sex, which can only be described as hard core porn. I was shocked. The depiction of relationships was brutally honest, but the porn was over the top.

HBO had to counter Showtime’s Kalifornication, which is a breast-fest and ultra shocking iconoclast.

I dont even wanna know how the food channel will retaliate to save their ratings.

By gmk

September 10, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Duh, I am very impressed that you only spent 3 hours today spewing your noxious venom. I’m hopeful our conversations have been helpful; you may now be realizing there is life outside of this blog. BTW, I’m no longer on vacation so I can’t spend as much time counseling you as last week. Ya see, I have a REAL job, with REAL responsibilities, which pays me in REAL money - not the currency with the pink bikini-clad elephant in the center, like you’ve been receiving…(no, Duh, I’m sorry…you can’t buy the nice toy with the pink money).

What a warped view of reality you truly have, Duh…

By Tonito

September 10, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Don’t you love it? Clyde got Dustmite so upset that Dustmite did all he could do. Dirtied his diaper and then ANGRILY puked up a childish reply totally in CAPS! Wow! What a man is Dustmite! Surge on, Dustmite, surge on!

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Tonito the mosquito aka Clyde,etc etc,4:18

Poor baby, you never get it, do you? I’m not running a quiz show for psychopaths. Shooo…

By Midori

September 10, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

Tonito,

Dusty is a “she” (I think)……..

Aside from her gender, it’s been well established that she’s a deranged moron.

By Teen Angel

September 10, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

I wish I had a neo-con mom and dad.

Then I could lie to them all the time and it would be ok.

The truth would mean nothing to them.

Masses of fun man.

By Don't let him betray us

September 10, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

REPORT: Petraeus Spent At Least 17 Days In August Flacking For Bush’s Escalation

By Bosch

September 10, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

AmVet - That’s the usual tactic of the wingnuts. Google one random article that is totally irrelevant to the topic and then proclaim it as God’s truth - or use Wiki.

Nice take on the religion/wingnut bit too. I’ve always found it quite interesting that with some of the more fundamentalist Christian denominations, you can be a drug-infested, alcohol swilling, wife-beating, porn slobbering loser one day, and a preacher the next - all you have to do is “find God.”

These particular denomination does not promote scholarship. They only need one book (guess which one). Fundamentalism in any context, any religion, is dangerous.

No facts, just blind faith. It’s a perfect match.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 10, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 10, 2007 3:51 PM The first of many lies spewed today: “Petraeus today before Congress:}}}}

al-Gitmo: I can fully understand that you Islamic Loonies would have a hard time understanding the English language, so allow me to help you-

{{{{When I testified in January, for example, no one would have dared to forecast that Anbar Province would have been transformed ((((((((((THE WAY IT HAS))))))))))))) in the past 6 months.}}}}}

I know exactly what he is talking about, I heard you surrender monkeys bleating that Anbar was lost too.

~~~~~~

{{{{By gmk September 10, 2007 4:12 PM I’m hopeful our conversations have been helpful; you may now be realizing there is life outside of this blog.}}}}

Doesn’t it just suck that we live in America and I can do with my life damn near what ever I please and that you have no say in it, other than to whine like some little blue hair busy body?

What’s up; are you trying to prove your pinko liberal bonafides by sniping at me?

Begone, dullard.

By AmVet

September 10, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch, I used to be of the attitude, that if someone’s faith makes them a “better” person, so be it. It’s not my concern that someone chooses to live their life and define their humanity and very ethos based on a mythological house of cards.

But some time ago, primarily based on many experiences dealing with WAY too many mistruths from the most zealous of these people, I began to see that quiet acceptance of the lies, as I perceived them, was for me, ethically wrong.

I liken the world’s biggest organized religions to the built-in “firewall” in Windows operating systems. They are worse than useless as they give people a false sense of security.

But fortunately throughout the world, and in spite of the desperate hopes of some in this country; Islamic/Judaic/Christian significance continues to fade quickly. Only for the most fanatical will it continue to have much relevance.

And IMHO that bodes well for all of mankind’s future.

By getalife

September 10, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

My goodmess how we have evolved in the demented mind of duh.

From pinkos, surrender monkeys, filthy liberals, etc… to Islamic loonies.

Actually duh, we are American patriots using our freedom your boy w is trying to steal, scared of a few radicals who he can’t get, to voice our opinion on the destruction of our country.

You, on the the other hand, cheer on the cheerleader and want to steal all American freedom because you are scared to death .

Pathetic. Pitiful. Just plain unAmerican.

Geez.

By Dusty

September 10, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

bosch 4:56

Can’t help but wonder what your church does with people who are “drug infested, alcohol swilling, wife beating, porn slobbering losers” that show up for your services. Do you run them off? Nobody at your church is “alcohol swilling”? Hmmm, how do you set up your “restrictions”?

By @@

September 10, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Well ml, I see YOUR silly sockpuppets here posting, but I seriously doubt that the American people will smile upon those who would call General Petraeus a sockpuppet when it’s he that is on the ground in Iraq.

The one thing Americans won’t tolerate are insults to our brave fighting men and women appearing in full-page ads at the NYT.

Bad call…and who does MoveOn.org represent? The Far left wing of the Democratic party.

With each passing day, the Democrats are chewing up their chances in ‘08.

I predict that they will choose to allow the surge to continue. Politically, they have no choice, what with the recent positive reports from their own members who visited Iraq. They approved Petraeus…they approved the surge.

The Dems are going to be fighting their own war on three fronts. Moderate democrats within their own party, the anti-war protesters, and the war in Iraq.

This is gonna be interesting to say the least.

By AmVet

September 10, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Looks like the Thompson campaign is off to a quick start!

WASHINGTON (CNN) — A television and eight laptop computers were stolen from Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign headquarters, according to a Boston Police official.

The break-in took place late Sunday night or early Monday morning, campaign spokesman Kevin Madden told CNN

By getalife

September 10, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

@@,

There is no war in the dems.

Geez.

By AmVet

September 10, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Good job, Senator Kerry! Sadly the far left is not really any better than the far right in this regard.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, criticized MoveOn.org Monday for taking an ad out in The New York Times criticizing Gen. David Petraeus. The general is testifying before Congress today about the situation in Iraq. (Related: Dems join GOP in slamming ad attacking Petraeus)

“I don’t like any kind of characterizations in our politics that call into question any active duty, distinguished general,” Kerry told CNN, adding “who I think under any circumstances serves with the best interests of our country.”

Kerry is a decorated Vietnam War veteran who was awarded two Purple Hearts. In his 2004 presidential campaign, Kerry was attacked by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, who questioned his service in the war.

Kerry called the MoveOn.org ad “over the top” and specifically noted that he did not like the wording in the text.

“I didn’t like the terminology,” he said. “I didn’t like it.”

The ad shows a picture of Petraeus with the words “General Petraeus or General Betray us?”

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 10, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

This is a long, but an excellent read:

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001514.html

See if you can guess who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.

Just like the Iraqis have already.

By @@

September 10, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

AmVet:

The Democrats, ESPECIALLY John Kerry cannot distance themselves from MoveOn.org.

Kerry spoke out against the troops in Vietnam. Kerry called our troops in Iraq dumb. Now he wants to chastise the organization that funded his 2004 presidential campaign?

Kerry is damaged goods in the political arena. He just doesn’t sell well.

By robert ketron

September 10, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

It’s only too bad that one of the puppets wasn’t identifiable as Katie Couric. CBS deserves the wrath of all Americans and especially the troops who have been betrayed by the “reporting” from Iraq last week. Maybe Katie should be replacing Tony Snow? …. as one of the puppets, at the very least!

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 10, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Think about this for a moment:

{{{{“The mosques in Ramadi all have pro-coalition messages now,” Captain McGee said.}}}}

God Bless America.

By @@

September 10, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

AmVet:

You may want to check with this guy from MoveOn.org. Was Kerry just playing to the public? I think maybe he was.

(((Eli Pariser, the executive director of MoveOn.org, said the group had no second thoughts about running the ad.)))

(((Mr. Pariser said that he had NOT heard any blowback from Democratic officials.)))

By getalife

September 10, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

The premptive attack on Betrayus credibilty was due to the op ed he wrote and the found chemical weapons that was bs.

He chose to be w’s scab so it was fair game.

Kerry should know better after he was swiftboated and caved like the spineless dems always do.

Pathetic.

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

Fact checking the testimony of Petraeus and the Bush administration. The numbers don’t add up.

*General Petraeus Claimed the Pentagon’s Methodology for Tracking Sectarian Killings Was Reviewed By Two US Intelligence Agencies, But Did Not Name Them.

However, U.S. Intelligence Officials Questioned Pentagon’s Methods of Tracking Violence in Iraq.

A Military Spokesman Admitted It Did Not Track Shiite-on-Shiite or Sunni-on-Sunni Violence.

And, the GAO Found Claims of Decreased Sectarian Violence Could Not Be Verified.

*General Petraeus Claimed the Number of Car Bombings Has Come Down

However, The Military Does Not Include Car Bombings in Sectarian Violence Statistics.

And, The Number of Car Bombings In Iraq Was Five Percent Higher in July 2007 than in December 2006

*General Petraeus Claimed the Number of Ethno-Sectarian Deaths Has Come Down By Over 55 Percent.

However, The Overall Death Toll in Iraq Has Risen.

And The Comptroller General Said There Were Various Sources of Violence Statistics in U.S. Government Which Did Not Agree.

A reminder for all those Republicans who are SHOCKED that anyone would doubt Gen. Petraeus…

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this

{{{{The real problem is that many Democrats have bet the rent money on an American defeat in Iraq, and without that defeat they could find themselves in big trouble in the 2008 elections.}}}}

~~~~~~

{{{{Perhaps most significantly, these five Iraqi leaders together decided to publically express their joint desire to develop a long term relationship with the United States.- Ambassador Ryan Croker}}}}

{{{{“The mosques in Ramadi all have pro-coalition messages now,” Captain McGee said.}}}}

God Bless George W Bush for having the strength and the courage to stand up to the cacophony of cowardice from you gutless wonders on the left.

And God Bless General Patreaus for getting our soldiers out of their sinister bases and out of their ominous vehicles and into the streets of Iraq where the citizens could see the goodness of the greatest people of the greatest nation on Earth up close and personal, to learn for themselves that we come to them not to take but to give, that we ask of them not for their treasures or for their land but for only a place to bury our dead.

We do not behead children like Al Qaeda does, we do not rape women like Saddam did, we are not the rampaging beast that those of our misguided left wing portray us to be, we are the protectors of life, the givers of freedom, a people who care for the hurt, that shelter the displaced, that lift up the downtrodden, that right the wrongs and respect the dignity of peoples of all races, nations and colors.

Listen to me, my Iraqi Brothers. Rejoice in the freedom that we have given you because it is yours without price. You can stand proud for your nation, against all odds, always knowing that we will be there at your side, standing with you against the real forces of evil.

And together we can only win.

~~~~~

{{{{Several months after the Sept. 11 attacks, I was asked to look through a thick, three-ring binder put together by the FBI, a catalogue of objects - photographed and numbered - that were the unclaimed personal effects of the 184 victims who perished at the Pentagon. They included things such as buttons, uniform insignia, house and car keys, wedding rings, shoes, personalized coffee mugs and, saddest of all, a miniature, hot-pink luggage tag with a flowery design meant for a little girl’s travel bag.}}}}

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

FACT CHECK: Petraeus To Withdraw Troops Next Summer Because Of Broken Military, Not ‘Progress’

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

{{{CHERRY PICKING THE NUMBERS Petraeus will claim a 75% reduction in violence. HERE’S HOW HE DOES IT: If you’re shot in the back of the head it’s counted, if you’re shot in the front of the head it’s NOT counted. If it’s Sunni on Sunni NOT counted, if it’s an Iraqi fighting with US forces NOT counted, if it’s Shia on Shia NOT COUNTED.}}}

Experts Doubt Drop In Violence in Iraq Military Statistics Called Into Question

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Petraeus Report: Crisis in Confidence

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

I just love freedom of speech!

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Sad that we can’t see on-line the three great amateur toons that appear in the paper this morning.

Great work!

By Charles

September 11, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

Why isn’t the AJC reporting about the latest Vince Foster-like scandal of the Clintons?

Oh yeah, I forgot. Objective journalism is an oxymoron to the Editors of the AJC.

By Hey Charles

September 11, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Maybe because it ain’t really a scandal.

Y’all are just warming up your slime machine.

Try it punk

It ain’t gonna work this time.

Perhaps we should take a look at Fred Thompson’s giving legal counsel to the Lockerbie bombers. Now that’s a scandal.

By Hey Charles

September 11, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

You are dumber than I thought!!!!!

Did you bother to even check the AJC? Try searching the archives dimwit… actually was quite a bit of coverage over the last few weeks.

Oh I forgot, objective ANYTHING is impossible for YOU PEOPLE.

By Political Foreskin

September 11, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Petreus does not deserve Betray-us at all. He’s a good man. He’s human and imperfect, thank god.

There is no end game scenario that would allow us to leave Iraq, and the ongoing debate is slowly evolving to that conclusion.

Today’s AJC has an article written by an Iraq War Veteran who supports the surge, and makes a great case for staying the course, and he also concludes that we cant abandon Iraq.

However, he has the incorrect premise. He wrote, “we cant abandon Iraq to the terrorists.”

That’s not why we cant abandon Iraq. The statement is misleading and careless. It’s why we cant find any common ground in the debate.

We cant abandon Iraq to the Iraqis. Period. End of discussion.

They have ten thousand year old outhouses in Iraq, and they’ve never ever been able to share or spare a square.

Iraq is a spectrum of tolerance, compromise, betrayal and revenge, and anyone can point to any part of that spectrum and make a case about war or peace, order or chaos.

The reality on the ground in Iraq is that 500K US troops are needed to babysit Iraqis for at least another 10K years.

We will withdraw a photo-op number of troops before the elections.

Hillary already knows this fact about Iraq. They all know. It’s like America cant handle anything naked, truth or bodies.

Also, you must know that politics is a war of words. You posture for family values because that’s politically expedient. You must remove yourself from the emotions you feel about any issue, and simply talk the talk, in order to get elected.

So that means that every politician is a hypocrit.

This blog has become a “Boy, I really flamed my debating opponent yesterday, and now I’m the king. And the other blogger got my intention wrong when I wrote about Iraq, you see, what I was trying to do, which went way over his head because he’s less smart than me, and not only that, but I have a link here about news that I think you all need to know so click on my link or you’ll be left behind the world that I think should exist….”

Every blog evolves to this point, and it’s why open discussion blogs are fruitless. Wooten had very clear intentions about the discussions that open blogs could advance, but people are emotional beings, and cant help but be proud of what they write.

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

What Crocker and Petraeus didn’t say

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Guess who came up with the nickname? His fellow officers.

Critics, including one recently retired general, are privately calling him “General Betraeus” on the grounds that he is too ambitious to deliver a balanced report on the war.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G, They were on-line yesterday, maybe you can search the archives (or did you see them in the paper this morning, couldn’t tell from your post).

Dusty, To answer your snide question about my church last night. We let everyone in our church to worship if they choose to do that. My post earlier was about who we allow to be priests.

In order to become a priest in the Episcopal Church, you must go through a very strict screening process and then must go to SCHOOL for three years, usually resulting in a Master’s of Divinity, or something similar.

In addition, at least at my church, any volunteer that works with children, must agree to a criminal background check yearly, and must attend and complete a sexual abuse class that teaches prevention and recognition every two years.

Anymore questions?

I think it would do us all some good today, to remember those who lost their lives on this day six years ago, and to also remember those who have lost their lives because of that day all over the world since then.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Thanks Bosch.

I did see them on the “paper” paper this morning.

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

{{{Yesterday while Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker testified to Congress about progress in Iraq, nine U.S. troops in Iraq were killed. Additionally, a “truck bomb killed 10 people and wounded 60 in northern Iraq, police said.”}}}

By Dusty

September 11, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Well, what do ya know?

In the first hour of this morning’s blog we have SIX propaganda posts trying to smear General Petraeus.

What is your REAL ID, “Don’t let him betray us”?

Is it “Here’s How I Betray the Country”? Is it “Blog Notes from a Traitor”? Or “Don’t Let us Win This War”?

Democratic Headquarters ought to be ashamed of such work against the country. They wouldn’t supply such anti-American material, would they? Would they? WOULD THEY?

By Goldie

September 11, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Or how about the puppet that said this about Iraq last week:

“We’re kicking @ss!”

Oh wait — that was the puppet-master himself saying those words. Only Bush would say words like that after he flew in to the Anbar province and avoided Baghdad altogether. How can we be “kicking @ss” when Bush can’t even go to Baghdad???

Everything about the Bush administration stinks of lies, deception and death.

By Hey Dusty

September 11, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Somebody swiftboating the General?

Say it ain’t so!

Maybe a better ID would be

Informed electorate

or

Concerned American Patriot

or

Truth seeker

or

No more Lies

or

We speak truth you spew propaganda

or

Save our nation

or

We don’t need Ari’s 15.5 million to tell the truth

or

Friend to the Founding Fathers

or

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH

or

Dusty’s nonsense won’t change the facts.

By Hey Dusty

September 11, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Additionally,

after cooking the books on

the environment

the economy

the build up to the war

only a COMPLETE IDIOT would accept yesterday’s testimony as gospel truth without checking.

By Dusty

September 11, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

bosch 9:06

My question came from the what you posted yesterday. I gather that anyone who questions what you post is “snide”. If your priests don’t come out of Epicopalian membership, I’d be surprised.

We don’t have “priests” in our church, just ministers. They must complete seminary and be ordained. Most have Doctor of Divinity degrees. My church is closely aligned with the Episcopal church so you can stop looking down your nose whem I mention the church I attend.

Fundamentalist Christian churches reach people that other churches do not. I don’t approve of everything they promote but I don’t condemn everything they do.

As to their preachers, neither Jesus nor the disciples went to seminary. I guess there is still a hope that even such “unprepared preachers” can reach people with hope.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I’m liking George Orwell more and more these days…….

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

“All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.”

“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. “

“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac. “

“Nationalism is power hunger tempered by self-deception. “

“We may find in the long run that tinned food is a deadlier weapon than the machine-gun. “

And here’s one for the conservatives among us:

“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot. “

By mm

September 11, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

The wingnut lemmings continue to believe the lies of this administration and the puppets they trot out to blow sunshine up the 30% club’s a*******es. General Betrayus should be ashamed to lie and give more of our troops a death sentence.

Why don’t you wingnuts just send God over to Iraq to smite Allah. We can then bring the troops home. Because if God is more powerful, why are we having a war?

Boo.

By Dusty

September 11, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

HEY Dusty @9:33 & multiple posts,

Why don’t you make your ID simple? Just post under “LIAR”.

By Doom: Man of Wisdom

September 11, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

The General, politicians, and idiotic couch & blog politicians are just pawns used to further the plans of those who seek to take away our freedoms. All of you people are just playing into the hands of our enemy and his grand schemes with your moronic arguments that have no bearing in truth.

By Hey Dusty

September 11, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Because Dusty

That would not be true.

Liar wouldn’t be accurate for your either ( I guess) more accurate would be Scared Uninformed Lemming.

By Dusty is jealous of Midori and @@

September 11, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Doom read your comment yesterday on Wooten’s blog. I would appreciate it if you would not flirt with me or else I will request a restraining order against you.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

On MSNBC they are replaying OBL’s mass murder that lazy fred wants to give due process.

The rest of the gop, except McLiar,wants to give him amnesty.

Shame.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Dusty, Your comment was snide, and completely irrelevant. I was talking about people who become priests, and you twisted that into the parrisioners. There is a difference.

My “looking down my nose” at you or anyone is an personal self-confidence issue you must have, Dusty. If you find me to be arrogant, then that’s your problem, not mine.

My original post from yesterday, if you will go back and re-read it, does not mention a specific Christian denomination - your ministers are ordained? Great! That’s not what my original post was about.

The issue of my orignal post deals with the fact that some “preachers” typically in small, fundamental churches are extremely uneducated and the only requirement to reach their position of leadership is they “find God” and it has been my experience that is not a very good education tool.

It was more a comment on fundamentalism and the dangers of it, in all religions. Fundamentalism is usually found most in the uneducated sectors of society.

By getalife needs to speak english

September 11, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Your post was incoherent dragon breath! Please translate.

By Bosch is a heathen

September 11, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

What gives an unbeliever such as yourself to question the validity of someone’s qualifications for leading something you don’t even believe in? Get saved and come back tomorrow!

Doom

By getalife

September 11, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Let me doom it down for doomed.

On MSNBC.

They are replaying 9/11/01.

The gop do not want to get the guy that did it.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Good point Doom, but I do question some Christian leader’s qualifications and abilities when they excite mobs of people into intolerance, scare people into believing in God, create scores of people who must repress their emotions, and tell people who they need to vote for, etc. See, that does directly affect everyone in society, even me.

Another question - what exactly do I need to be saved from?

Just kidding. See, Doom, I grew up in a fundamentalist church of freaks and was scared sh!tless the three times a week that I was forced to attend, and heaven forbid the weeks when we would have “revival.” By the end of the week, I was a nervous wreck! I got “saved” almost every week just to make sure and on some days when no one would go down front to get “saved” and the preacher would drag on and on, I’d go again, just so we could leave.

Does being saved wear off? Because if not, I’m covered.

Doom, believe it or not, I do believe in God, I just go about my spirituality in a different way than you.

By Dusty

September 11, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

OH how lovely it would be to sit here and correspond with brain dead liberals and other types of laughable imbecility and betrayal.

But alas, work calls and I leave to enjoy those who are intelligent and perceptive.

Hold on to your DNC notes, your pomposity, your white surrender flags, kleenex for sobbing, and the “wet nurse” for getalife and Doom.

Au revoir, mon amis. Maybe later!!!

By Doom's List

September 11, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Over the next couple of days, I will release my list of friends and enemies. This is a much anticipated list because it reveals everyone’s Doomistic position on this blog. First, my enemies will be revealed and later my friends will be revealed from 1 to 5, both in descending order.

P.S. Please refrain from kissing up to me between now and then, because I have already developed the lists in my head and it is too late for last minute posturing.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 11, 2007 10:13 AM The gop do not want to get the guy that did it.}}}}

al-Gitmo: I know you are just doing your propaganda duty to allah, but consider this for a second-

When we try to listen to Al Qaeda’s cellphones, you surrender monkeys whine.

When we launch missiles at their suspected hangouts, you surrender monkeys whine.

When we interrogate suspected terrorists, you surrender monkeys whine.

When we punish terrorists by putting them in prison, you surrender moneys whine.

When the New York Times prints details of our classified national security procedures, you surrender monkeys get happy.

When we occupy the battlefield that Al Qaeda has created by coming from all corners of the Middle East and we slaughter these scumbags by the thousands, you surrender monkeys whine.

You surrender monkeys are, at this very moment, in front of the whole world, trying to surrender to Bin Laden.

Who “doesn’t want to get him?”

By Political Foreskin

September 11, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

We would all love to get Osama Bin Laden. I hate his horseface. Where did he get that tie? Look at his shirt!

Suppose we hadn’t invaded Iraq, and our army was 130K strong in Afghanistan and it’s october of ‘02. The CIA had pinpointed osama’s hideout, and had him surrounded. All they needed was the army to go and kill him, (true). Bush ordered the army forward, (true). Rumsfeld refused the order. (true). “I’m not a CIA lackey”, he objected. I’m the commander here. I wont go until you give me total command of every aspect of this project”. (TRUE).

Bush hesitated. (true). Time was wasted, weeks, then months. Osama got away. (True).

Rumsfeld is a traitor, and committed the most heinous act of disobedience and treachery since B. Arnold.

Yet Rumsfeld is making millions on speaking tours, and drinking champagne, and is adored by all the little old ladies in peoria, too ignorant or lazy to understand the truth.

Now we are trapped in Iraq for generations and are committed to spend trillions moving the sand around.

Rumsfeld.

By Doom can respect Bosch's response

September 11, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Using fear to spread the word is a constant problem within the church. In my church, we call that “being churchy.” Even though Doom hates your guts, I sympathize with the problem you have pointed out. If Love was preached more than fear, there would be no problem.

P.S. I know you were just kidding, but for those who don’t know, we all need to be saved from the penalties of our sins which is eternal damnation(hell).

By Hey Dusty

September 11, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

My Fair Dusty!

All she wants is a blog somewhere Posting crap in her underwear

No truth No facts No flair

Oh wouldn’t it be loverly!

Oh so Loverly sittin abso-bloomin-lutley still

She can’t see the truth cuz she has sold her own free will!

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Surrender Monkeys?

I suppose that’s the best an un-evolved ape (yes, that’s you Bonzo) can do.

By the way, your last post was all emotion all crap and all wrong.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

At 10:28 am on 09/11/01 the second tower collapsed.

w said he does not think about OBL.

lazy fred said OBL should get due process.

The rest of the gop want to give him amnesty.

Stealing American freedoms will not catch him.

He is not in Iraq and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

The Dem candidates and McOld want to get him but wingnuts like duh blames the liberals.

This is w’s legacy.

Own it duh.

By DebbieDoRight

September 11, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Bosch and Amvet: I was trying to find a particuliar phrase on the internet and while googling came upon this site below and thought of the conversation you two were having yesterday(?). Hopefully this is just a caricature or spoof and not the real thing; but reading some of the writings made me kinda scared…… it sounds so REAL, and so much like something Jerry Falwell would say…….

“Back to School Witnessing Tips for Christian Students!” TAKE BACK YOUR SECULAR SCHOOL IN THE NAME OF JESUS!

In the Cafeteria: Whenever you are in the school cafeteria sit in a very conspicuous place, alone or with other True Christians®. Before you begin to eat, announce to your classmates that you are about to begin your meal with public prayer. Pray LOUDLY and CLEARLY so that everyone can hear you. End your prayer by thanking God that you are not like the publicans and sinners around you who are caught up in human pride and only want to be noticed by other people.

In Biology Class: If your biology teacher ever says the word, “evolution,” stand up and scream, “LIAR!” at the top of your lungs. Slam your bible down on your desk and walk out of the class. Make sure to SLAM the door behind you. If the glass in the door breaks, it will even give a better effect, and nobody present will ever forget the stand you made for Jesus.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0902/backtoschool.html

By Goldie

September 11, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

{{and was scared sh!tless the three times a week that I was forced to attend, and heaven forbid the weeks when we would have “revival.”}}

I’m with you, Bosch — and your description of “revival” week is eerily spot on! We had hell-fire and damnation coming from the Baptist preachers every Sunday, and revival week just ratcheted it up a few more notches… those freaks obviously believed in a very hateful, thunderous God.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Doom, “If Love was preached more than fear, there would be no problem.”

Exactly.

Promotion of fear is extremely anti-Jesus, IMHO.

Another question - you hate my guts but promote preaching love? Isn’t that being slightly hypocritical, or do you think my soul doesn’t count because I’m a heathen?

By getalife needs to read my 10:23 post

September 11, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Just curious. Who do you think will come in at 1# on my most hated list?

Doom

By Doom hates your guts not you

September 11, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Doom is beginning to doubt your heathenship. You may perhaps be temporarily derailed due to dissapointments with the hypocrisy of the church. Nevertheless, your politics should be geared toward the center rather than the far left. Its not too late.

Doom

By getalife

September 11, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Doomed,

Like w with OBL, It does not concern me.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

DDR, HOLY SH!T! See, intolerance, and yes, in this case, promotion of vandalism and violence. Scary stuff. Yes, hopefully this is not real. Can you imagine your child coming home from school and telling you something like that happened? Usually kids who are that fundamental are home schooled.

Goldie, Can I get another AMEN sister? You know, my mother still goes to that church, and once not too long ago, I had to go there for some reason, not to church, but one of my kids was there for something and I went to pick them up, and I got really sick to my stomach and almost had a panic attack before I could get out of there. I’m telling you, it’s brainwashing at it’s best.

And I really think that is the core of it all - the woes of this country and the Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East.

By Doom's Enemies(most hated) list is coming soon!

September 11, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

getalife,

Oh, you have no idea how much it concerns you! Stay tuned punk.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Oh Doom, I think you totally misunderstand me. I am not a total left ultra-lib. Not at all. I’m just really frustrated with the war and this administration’s antics, incompentence, and their perception that they are somehow above the law. I’m tired of them promoting fear to push forward their agenda of the ultra right - which, also again, in my opinion, are the fundamentalists who promote fear, intolerance, and absolutes with no room for anyone to think or act differently than they. To them, like fundamental religious figures, everything is in absolutes, their way is the ONLY way, and if you don’t believe them or align with their way of doing things or thinking you are either in the political arena - unpatriotic, or in the religious arena - doomed to hell.

There are alot of “conservative” things about me, but in this era of neo-con control, it is hard for even centrists like myself to be centrists, and are therefore labeled as “liberals” just because we think differently and do not believe in war, or lies, or manipulation, or intolerance, or fear promotion, etc. etc. See my point?

By Truthman

September 11, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Once again, the Religious Wrong are totally intolerant of other American’s viewpoints!!

Typical christian superiority complex!

http://www.accessatlanta.com/entertainment/content/shared-gen/ap/TV/TVEmmysGriffin.html

Go Kathy! Go Kathy! It’s your Birthday! It’s your Birthday

Crank that Soulja Girl

By Bosch is being transferred

September 11, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

If you would refer to my post at 10:23, you will see that I shall soon release the critically acclaimed ‘Doom’s Lists’. You were originally slated to come in at no. 3 or 4 on the enemies list, but your honesty and fluidity may transfer you over to the friends list if you continue to behave. Thanks for the objectivity.

Doom

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Good morning all.

DDR, it appears from the material there, that the link you provided to Landover Baptist Church is a send-up of Phelp’s Westboro Baptist Church.

You all remember him - THE most hate-consumed, homophobic preacher this side of hell.

Yesterday over at Wooten’s, this extremely angry bloke whose posts rival Andy’s for sheer venom (before Andy of many names was temporarily banished here at ML’s) provided a link to the movie Zeitgeist.

Although I was familiar with much of the material, I have never seen a more cohesive, thorough and compelling argument to dismiss Judeo Christianity as a near complete rip off of ancient Egyptian religions and the zodialogical calendar.

From the flood of Gilgamesh, to the near identical tales of Sargon (2250BC) as a model for Moses, to the 10 commandments being Joe Bidened right from the Egyptian Songs of the Dead, the Big Three are unmistakably just the latest in a long series of nearly identical, discredited mythologic attempts to explain the world by men unknowing of reason, ration, logic and science.

Baptism, an afterlife, final judgment, virgin birth, death and resurrection, crucifixion, ark of the covenant, circumcision, savior figures, holy communion, great flood, Easter, Christmas and Passover all plagiarized straight from ancient Egypt.

As for Christian prayers in public schools, I say NO. In spite of Ronald Reagan and George Bush and their theocracy wanting followers.

Don’t pray in my school, and I won’t think in your church.

By God Hates Doom

September 11, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

Doom,

I think YOU will be #1 on your most hated list. You are certainly #1 on mine.

By John Dillard

September 11, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Faith on Trial/Overcoming Life’s 9/11’s

Developing faith without fear is not an easy process. We all get caught up in the daily routine and the “me” world and the thought of doing anything without a little apprehension just seems irrational at best. However, I have learned by stepping out in my faith, God gives me the courage, the strength and the support to overcome my fears, my doubts and my apprehensions. I have seen it most in my career paths.

I am a CPA and have been for more than twenty-five years. For many years, I worked for the big corporate firms and soon realized that it wasn’t for me. I have been running my own small practice for 18 years. It has provided me with so many opportunities to meet people, to get out in the community, to travel and live a comfortable life. I was breezing along and my company was very successful under John C. Dillard, CPA, however, God wasn’t quite satisfied with my content, comfortable life and position and challenged me. In 2004, he encouraged me to step out in my faith and walk the walk. For so many years I had kept the same clients, frequently gaining new clients and they didn’t have to meet any criteria, nor did I, except that I had to be honest, and good at what I did. For God, that wasn’t enough. I changed the name of my firm to His CPA, P.C. and held my breath. I knew God would provide in the end, but I really was quite nervous, waiting to see what would happen with the new name and the philosophy, “serving Him by serving you…one tax return at a time”. I lost some clients, offended some clients and had others who questioned my move. And I had clients seeking me out because I had been brave enough to step out and lay my faith out there for the world to see. I would love to say that the overall reaction was an abundance of new clients, but that wasn’t the case. However, I did begin to notice that the new clients I was getting were those who God had placed in my path for one reason or another. Since 2004, I have shared many things with my clients and feel like I know each of them on a different level than I ever would have if I had not changed the name and not stepped into my faith. Christians are so open when they walk into a place and find that the person they are talking to is on fire for God. They want to share, they want to talk, they want to let me in and they want to discuss my faith and theirs. When I

By John Dillard

September 11, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Faith on Trial/Overcoming Life’s 9/11’s

Developing faith without fear is not an easy process. We all get caught up in the daily routine and the “me” world and the thought of doing anything without a little apprehension just seems irrational at best. However, I have learned by stepping out in my faith, God gives me the courage, the strength and the support to overcome my fears, my doubts and my apprehensions. I have seen it most in my career paths.

I am a CPA and have been for more than twenty-five years. For many years, I worked for the big corporate firms and soon realized that it wasn’t for me. I have been running my own small practice for 18 years. It has provided me with so many opportunities to meet people, to get out in the community, to travel and live a comfortable life. I was breezing along and my company was very successful under John C. Dillard, CPA, however, God wasn’t quite satisfied with my content, comfortable life and position and challenged me. In 2004, he encouraged me to step out in my faith and walk the walk. For so many years I had kept the same clients, frequently gaining new clients and they didn’t have to meet any criteria, nor did I, except that I had to be honest, and good at what I did. For God, that wasn’t enough. I changed the name of my firm to His CPA, P.C. and held my breath. I knew God would provide in the end, but I really was quite nervous, waiting to see what would happen with the new name and the philosophy, “serving Him by serving you…one tax return at a time”. I lost some clients, offended some clients and had others who questioned my move. And I had clients seeking me out because I had been brave enough to step out and lay my faith out there for the world to see. I would love to say that the overall reaction was an abundance of new clients, but that wasn’t the case. However, I did begin to notice that the new clients I was getting were those who God had placed in my path for one reason or another. Since 2004, I have shared many things with my clients and feel like I know each of them on a different level than I ever would have if I had not changed the name and not stepped into my faith. Christians are so open when they walk into a place and find that the person they are talking to is on fire for God. They want to share, they want to talk, they want to let me in and they want to discuss my faith and theirs. When I

By John Dillard

September 11, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Faith on Trial/Overcoming Life’s 9/11’s

Developing faith without fear is not an easy process. We all get caught up in the daily routine and the “me” world and the thought of doing anything without a little apprehension just seems irrational at best. However, I have learned by stepping out in my faith, God gives me the courage, the strength and the support to overcome my fears, my doubts and my apprehensions. I have seen it most in my career paths.

I am a CPA and have been for more than twenty-five years. For many years, I worked for the big corporate firms and soon realized that it wasn’t for me. I have been running my own small practice for 18 years. It has provided me with so many opportunities to meet people, to get out in the community, to travel and live a comfortable life. I was breezing along and my company was very successful under John C. Dillard, CPA, however, God wasn’t quite satisfied with my content, comfortable life and position and challenged me. In 2004, he encouraged me to step out in my faith and walk the walk. For so many years I had kept the same clients, frequently gaining new clients and they didn’t have to meet any criteria, nor did I, except that I had to be honest, and good at what I did. For God, that wasn’t enough. I changed the name of my firm to His CPA, P.C. and held my breath. I knew God would provide in the end, but I really was quite nervous, waiting to see what would happen with the new name and the philosophy, “serving Him by serving you…one tax return at a time”. I lost some clients, offended some clients and had others who questioned my move. And I had clients seeking me out because I had been brave enough to step out and lay my faith out there for the world to see. I would love to say that the overall reaction was an abundance of new clients, but that wasn’t the case. However, I did begin to notice that the new clients I was getting were those who God had placed in my path for one reason or another. Since 2004, I have shared many things with my clients and feel like I know each of them on a different level than I ever would have if I had not changed the name and not stepped into my faith. Christians are so open when they walk into a place and find that the person they are talking to is on fire for God. They want to share, they want to talk, they want to let me in and they want to discuss my faith and theirs. When I

By Doom responds to AmVet

September 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Amvet,

You have conviently made religion into a political issue. You associate christianity with Reagan and Bush as if they invented it. Believe it or not, there are actually democrats out there who believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Really, there are. I know that contradicts your sweeping sterotype of christians,but that is the reality and your inabilty to recognize that is because you choose to be an idiot to suit your political purposes.

Concerning the Egyptian connection: To say that Christianity is not real because of similarities of pagan beliefs is like saying the dollar in my pocket is not real because there is conterfeit money out there. Every reality has a fake version, the true test of faith and intelligence is the ability to distinguish between the two. Try it sometimes,it won’t hurt.

Doom

By Sneak preview of Doom's enemies list

September 11, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

The Senator Craig holds the #5 place on Doom’s enemies list for stealing Doom’s imperial bathroom glory hole at the Minneapolis airport. Craig also revealed Doom’s secret foot-tap for which the penalty is death. Stay tuned for more.

Doom

By Doom's list is coming soon!

September 11, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

ATTENTION EVERYONE:

Please read my 10:23 post. My most hated and loved list will be released soon. Where do you think you will fall?

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

AmVet, Yes, I have always been troubled by those “coincidences” myself.

It seems that many religions have “virgin births” - were ancient men so grossed out by women, sex, and the vagina (that’s a Christopher Hitchens thing)? Of course they have to have some kind of abnormality associated with their birth, or they’d just be (gasp) normal.

And do we really think that Jesus was born on December 25, 00? And what’s with the Easter Bunny? Come on, a bunny hiding eggs on the day that Jesus was cruxified? That’s really always kind of creep me out for some reason. No one see a problem here? Yes, anyone with a brain can see that our religious holidays were arranged by no coincidence - convert the pagans.

I’ve said this before, and although Doom might transfer me back on the other list, maybe if I’m honest, he’ll spare me: I believe religion exists for two reasons: 1) to ease our fears of death, and 2) to explain things we don’t understand.

I believe churches should exist to help those who need support. Many in my day, have called me hypocritical because I attend church but don’t believe in the mythology surrounding it. I choose to use the mythology as metaphors to support my beliefs of helping others in the world, and promoting peace. But even a war-hating peace lover like myself can get frustrated and mad - it’s a human malfunction.

Others, especially the war-mongering type, use religion to promote political agendas, and kill those who don’t believe as they do - OBL said in his tape that if we’d all embrace (does that mean convert or just welcome it?) we’d all be spared from his fury.

By Another sneak preview of Doom's enemies list

September 11, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Superman holds the #3 place on Doom’s enemies list. The caped crusader always tries to foil Doom’s plots and plans, but Doom gets his revenge when Doom wears his Superman underwear to bed and then proceeds to wet them in the middle of the night. Never underestimate the wrath of Doom.

Doom

By Trainwreck

September 11, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Its time to get rid of this blog.

Completely unreadable.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

John, I hate that kind of propoganda crap. That is exactly what I’m talking about, you use God’s name to promote a business and make a profit. Jesus would not do that, and that is totally anti-Christian. You are using people’s faith to make a profit and that is dispicable.

Remember when Jesus went beserk in the temple? You are the type of person who he was freaking out about.

Funny how you decide to do that during a time of war, when people’s fear of the unknown are at an all time high.

It’s also very untelligent to assume God is a man. If you believe in God and actually read the Bible, we are not supposed to even comprehend what God is.

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

{You have conviently made religion into a political issue.}

Though the two, religion and politics, have been to some large extent intertwined throughout this nation’s history, no, I don’t believe it is I who has made anything into anything.

One only need to take a cursory look to the very powerful, very influential organizations like The Family Research Council, The Moral Majority, The Christian Coalition of America and many, many others for evidence that it is they who have.

The fact that I, unlike many politicians (who probably wished they could also, but are afraid of the political consequences), choose to speak out against much of their agenda, does not make me the one bringing it to the fore.

They, and they alone, do.

Anyone who doesn’t intentionally misread my writings could not infer I think Christianity is not real. It is. It is not IMHO RELEVANT.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

And another thing John, If you believe in your faith so much, why couldn’t you have guided and created spiritual relationships with your big corporate co-workers? Why couldn’t you have been “on fire for God” with them?

Anytime someone decides in a greater good and tries to better themselves and find inspiration in a higher purpose can never be a bad thing, just don’t expect me to follow suit and don’t try to infringe on me when you do it, but, honestly, in my opinion, people like you make me want to vomit.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

AmVet, Like you inferred, Christianity, IS relevant when forced into the political arena. When powerful people try to use Christianity to promote their own power and profit, it becomes totally relevant and extremely dangerous.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet September 11, 2007 11:13 AM I have never seen a more cohesive, thorough and compelling argument to dismiss Judeo Christianity as a near complete rip off of ancient Egyptian religions and the zodialogical calendar.}}}}

{{{{By Bosch September 11, 2007 11:35 AM Yes, anyone with a brain can see that our religious holidays were arranged by no coincidence - convert the pagans.}}}}

Does it come as no surprise that on the same day that their political animal congressman, mere democrat party toadies, are mocking a decorated General as though they even understand combat or warfare other than to run and surrender, these disciples of theirs would be mocking the Holy Spirit and their Creator?

Proclaiming their own superiority over life eternal, of which they compromise just a fly speck on a gnat’s as-s?

Does the idiocy ever end?

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Duh, Maybe I’m just thinking a little more about religion today because of the date. I’ve told you before, I’m not a Democrat or Republicans - politicians are not my heroes. And, in my opinion, General Patraeus is an upright guy, too bad, the Commander in Chief haven’t listened to guys like him for the past four years. Whose mocking who?

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

OH, and Duh,

“Does it come as no surprise that on the same day that their political animal congressman”

Just so you know, my Congressional Representative to the U.S. House of Representatives is a slobbering, neo-con Bush lapdog Republican.

By Goldie

September 11, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

{{Does the idiocy ever end?}}

Apparently not, DUH — you’re here again posting, so there’s your evidence of idiocy!

Speaking of idiots, I’m reminded of how the right-wingnut religious extremists (a la Falwell and Robertson) chose to honor the dead of 9/11 by stating that it was all because of the Feminists, Gays and Hoes that we were attacked… sounds just like Bin Laden, yes?

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Bosch, I have never, even for a moment, worried about this nation being controlled by the neo-conservative religious fanatics. They missed their opportunity by over 200 years.

As much as the religionists might hate it, the founding fathers were men who were from the Age of Reason and developed their incredible vision after the Enlightenment.

They understood that religion has its place in our society. A small place. And fortunately that is how it has been for over two centuries.

Notwithstanding the seemingly endless list of discredited frauds, charlatans, hypocrites, liars, and televangelists, and no matter how much their “faithful” desperately try unsuccessfully to change the tide, these ultra-angry, rage filled, impotent extremists are never going to be more than be a blip on the screen.

And in fifty years I believe that religion will be a virtual non-factor in American governance.

Intelligent, moral people recognize that truth will always conquer fiction and fear.

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Newsweek: Internal Pentagon report contradicts Petraeus’ testimony to Congress

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

George Will: “The surge has failed”

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

AmVet, I used to believe that, I think you are right about the Founding Fathers, but it just takes a few Supreme Court cases, a few laws here and there and boom, we are in some big trouble.

Like I told you last week, I think you are just more optomistic than I am, but in this case, I truly hope I am wrong.

That’s why I think it is so important for those of us who disagree with the policies and actions of this administration, who where I live, are certainly in the minority, to stand up and scream the other side. Maybe that’s why I’m not as optomisitic as you - sometimes I feel like I live in the twilight zone.

Oh, and I’m sorry that I got you in trouble on Wooten’s blog last week with the Ghenghis Khan thing. I should have been more clear, but I was in a hurry. Didn’t mean to get you screamed at. :-)

By getalife

September 11, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

duh,

“Does the idiocy ever end?”

Well, there was a short period of time when you were banned but you just had to come back and spew your hate.

Geez.

By RE

September 11, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

ANyone notice in the Pertaus testimony that there was a chart showing the insurgent groups and which countries they came from. I saw the “foriegn fighters” coming from Syria and Iran played up promenantly, but there was no mention at all of Saudi Arabia.

So if 50% of foriegn fighters are coming from SaudiArabia, and petreaus does not mention that at all, does that make it seem to anyone else to be politically crafted testimony? Did he just forget?

By getalife

September 11, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Kos kicking a-ss on Hardball:

Markos puts questions of the ad’s appropriateness into perspective:

“To me, you know, way out in California, it’s almost amusing to see how in Washington DC, everybody is all up in arms over an ad. You know, we’re in the middle of this bloody war, almost 4,000 dead, half a trillion dollars spent, and people are going to talk about how inappropriate an ad is? I think it’s patently ridiculous. And most people, outside of this sort of Beltway environment really don’t care about an ad. They want to see our men and women coming home, safe and sound to their families.”

Tweety agreed.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bosch September 11, 2007 12:14 PM Duh, Maybe I’m just thinking a little more about religion today because of the date. I’ve told you before, I’m not a Democrat or Republicans.}}}}

Bosch: Apologies if I misread your intentions but I still cannot account for the fact that you always come down on the side of the democrats, considering that you “aren’t one.”

And framing Christianity as some mind control horror show doesn’t wash with me either, I just have to look to the fact that Christians have done far more good for the world, hands down, than they have bad.

Plus, I don’t really consider a child molester or a gay man cruising a men’s restroom for homosexual sex to be the most disciplined followers of Christ, I fail to find any passages in the New Testament that enable these “activities,” so it seems rather simplistic for you all or nothing liberals to be condemning the whole of Christianity over the acts of a few.

Especially considering the real horrors that lie within realm of your beloved Socialism, after all, communists have killed more people the last one hundred years than have been killed by religion since the beginning of time.

You may not realize what I do, and that is people like you and Amvet speak for evil.

And try your hardest to frame the real good in the world as evil.

Just an observation.

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Bosch, in its defense, the church has been unquestionably the “last refuge” throughout the ages. When the displaced, famished, diseased and war stricken, have had no other place to turn, the church has always opened its doors and provided help.

There is no doubt about that. And as a result they have eased much human suffering and done enormous good. And that is why I am not opposed to the church being involved in helping government deal with some of these problems.

I’m a pragmatist. If the church can take some of that enormous money and resources and help people in dire straights, that is a good thing.

But if and only if, the needy are not proselytized.

However, many of us are doubtful, that those involved can keep their word in this regard, as their very mission is to go to the four corners of the earth and spread the joyous news.

By Dr. Phil

September 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

It is human nature to lash out at others when you can’t defend your own decisions. This is the current state of mind for the wingnuts.

They believed they were doing the right thing by electing Bush. Now that they see what a failure he is, the constant guilt they feel (though they won’t admit it) causes them to lash out at the people who do not support Bush.

This gives them a feeling of adequacy. If they still spew their hatred towards democrats, they can still feel adequate in defending the GOP.

If you say something often enough, you will subconsciously believe it.

By DebbieDoRight

September 11, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Instead of Girls Gone Wild, here’s Religion Gone Wild, (The H [Holy Roller] rated version).

If you want a good laugh (or cry) about religion go to the AJC’s Juanita Bynum blog. It’s really pathetic how these “christians” are acting!!! Thank God I’m not a Christian!!

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2007/09/10/bynum0911.html?cxntlid=homepagetab_newstab#comments

By getalife

September 11, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Thanks Dr. Phil but you are a w lover from Texas.

duh really can use your help though.

By Doom was ID jacked by getalife at 11:27 and 11:40

September 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

The upcoming “Doom’s List” is approaching. On it, all of you will see where you stand with regard to your relationship with Doom. I will identify the the top 5 individuals on this blog who Doom hates and loves and why.

Read my earlier post at 10:23 if you don’t know what I’m talking about.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Dr. Phil September 11, 2007 1:34 PM Getalife, It is human nature to lash out at others when you can’t defend your own decisions. This is the current state of mind for the wingnuts.}}}}

{{{{By getalife September 11, 2007 1:31 PM it’s almost amusing to see how in Washington DC, everybody is all up in arms over an ad. You know, we’re in the middle of this bloody war, almost 4,000 dead, half a trillion dollars spent, and people are going to talk about how inappropriate an ad is? I think it’s patently ridiculous. And most people, outside of this sort of Beltway environment really don’t care about an ad.}}}}

Heh, all in the span of just a few minutes.

And funny thing is, they think they are immune to their own hypocrisy.

By Truthman

September 11, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Here’s something none of our politicos will EVER DO! Esp not the Chickenhawk neo-conmen and women.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/10/iraq.soldiers/index.html

Hey Zaxby and Johnny, why don’t you two embed with our Soldiers for a few months? Maybe then you’ll stop being a rubberstamp for Cheney/Bush’s murder machine!

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

””“”Especially considering the real horrors that lie within realm of your beloved Socialism, after all, communists have killed more people the last one hundred years than have been killed by religion since the beginning of time.”“”“”

That does not sound right to me.

Religon 809,215,732

Communism 94,000,000

Socialism, (2 different idealogies, you should learn the difference, not knowing makes you look stupid) Can’t do more than 2 links….but I can’t find anything that leads me to believe that 715 million were killed by socialism.

I think you better source your bombastic claim!

By Lance

September 11, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Bosch - I am new to this blog, but I have been reading your comments for some time. While I disagree with you on several issues, I normally find your posts to be articulate and well-reasoned, until I read your response to John.

Words like “you make me want to vomit” show a hatred for religion and religious people. John opened a private business that no one has to go to. Please tell me how he is “forcing his religion” on anyone? If you don’t like John because he is a Christian - go to H&R block. With the name of his business, at least you know going in that he claims to be one.

If John is doing this to make money, then God will deal with him. If he is doing it out of conviction, then God will reward him. If there is no God, it won’t matter anyway!

By Heathens will be prevalent on Doom's enemies list

September 11, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

If you guys want to go to hell so bad, then why don’t you just go ahead and kill yourself?

Doom

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Hey Duh September 11, 2007 1:57 PM ””“”Especially considering the real horrors that lie within realm of your beloved Socialism, after all, communists have killed more people the last one hundred years than have been killed by religion since the beginning of time.”“”“” That does not sound right to me.}}}}

From the dullard’s link, all I needed to know:

{{{{Holocaust, 1938-45}}}}

It’s pretty easy to pile up the dead for religion when you blame it for every single murder that’s ever been committed, even those done in the name of fascism and racism.

Try again, clown.

And socialism is the ROOT of communism, you know, the well being of the state and all that nonsense.

Just like Hillary spouts.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Duh, Religion has got you hands down as the reason for murder since the beginning of time.

“Plus, I don’t really consider a child molester or a gay man cruising a men’s restroom for homosexual sex to be the most disciplined followers of Christ, I fail to find any passages in the New Testament that enable these “activities,” so it seems rather simplistic for you all or nothing liberals to be condemning the whole of Christianity over the acts of a few.”

And where, Mr. Duh, do I condemn all of Christianity because of Mr. Craig’s disgusting actions?

AmVet, Case in point for prostelying to the disadvantaged - I’ve mentioned before that the other Bosch used to work for DFACS. There was this one foster home that would take in older kids, only catch, they had to attend church, no church, no home, the other Bosch picked about a dozen kids off the curb with their suitcases in hand - there are special places in hell (but wait, I don’t believe in hell, well if I did) for people like that.

By The Ministry of Doom

September 11, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Lance,

Unbelievers like Bosch and AmVet are critical of religion because of their guilt in failing to live like Christ. We all have failed in that, but we don’t take it out on the very thing we’ve failed at. Its like the guy who doesn’t like a particular company because they fired him, even though he was caught stealing.

Doom

By RE

September 11, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Words from the faithful:

By Heathens will be prevalent on Doom’s enemies list

September 11, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

If you guys want to go to hell so bad, then why don’t you just go ahead and kill yourself?

Doom

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

I find the fact that Andy of many names finds me evil to be very comforting.

I would be extremely concerned about my own humanity as well as mankind’s shared ethos if he didn’t.

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

WRONG-O DUH

BIG FAT WRONG-O

It’s pretty easy to “pile up the dead for religion” simply by putting responsibility were it belongs.

Read you dim bulb.

Socialism the root of communism? Making this up as you go along again? Is facism it’s flower?

Oh hunny you so funny!

By RE has returned from his/her exile

September 11, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

RE,

You must be trying to qualify for Doom’s list. You’ll have to do better than that.

Doom

By Dr. Phil

September 11, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Duh,

You should drop by my office for some intense therapy.

However, I think you are suffering from Anal/Cranial Inversion (Head up your butt).

I prescribe for you a belly-button window so that you may see clearly again.

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Additionally

We know you are a underachiever and then you state the obvious!

””“All I needed to know”“”

Heaven forbid you LEARN more.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Lance, I don’t hate religious people at all - I get extremely frustrated with hypocrits. That comment was just to show my utmost disgust for hypocrits, like I consider John, to be.

Yes, you are right, people do not have to go to his business, that’s true. But, those types of people are using people’s faith and convinction to make a profit and that’s what I have a problem with.

I see it in politics too - people using the name of Christ and Christianity as a means for power and gain. I think that George W. Bush is no more a Christian than OBL. Oh yes, he may claim to be a man of God, but his actions surely speak for themselves. He uses that platform, like so many others, simply for votes.

Have you ever heard the commandment Thou Shalt Not Take the Name of God in Vain? Many people think that just simply means don’t say “Oh my God” or “God dammit” or something like that. To me, it means not using God’s name in vain for means such as a business, or a war.

I don’t think John is forcing his religion on anyone - did I say that? I don’t remember, but like I said earlier, why not “get on fire with God” when he worked in the corporate world?

It is, in my opinion, very hypocritical and completely the opposite of the teachings of Christ. And if you consider yourself a Christian, the teachings of Christ are the ones that matter.

Jesus Christ tore the temple up in outrage over such behavior - using the temple to turn a profit - same thing.

I don’t hate John, I don’t know John, but I will certainly stay away from any business that uses Christianity for finanacial gain.

Hate is a very strong word, Lance, and it is one that I truly try to stay away from.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Doom, Doom, I told you earlier, I do believe in God, just not like you do.

By Doom is leaving the building

September 11, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION EVERYONE: Stay tuned for the upcoming “Doom’s list”. It will feature the top 5 most hated and loved individuals on this blog.

P.S. If there is a post by Doom containing a “glory hole” remark, it isn’t Doom. It is getalife. getalife is the supreme loser on this blog and the only way he can fight is to jack other people’s ID.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Hey Duh September 11, 2007 2:22 PM WRONG-O DUH BIG FAT WRONG-O Read you dim bulb.}}}}

Sigh.

According to Marx, socialism is a stage on the way to communism, which is the more advanced stage of humyn organization not yet achieved in China or the Soviet Union, even according to Lenin, Stalin and Mao.

Dear dullard: Did it ever occur to you that the people that blame mass murder on religion just might be left wing perverts like you?

{{{{In Hitler’s words “the heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity” (Hitler, 1953, p. 6). The Jesuits were “swine,” and all of Christianity was “Jewish Christianity” which was comparable with “Jewish Bolshevism.” Hitler concluded that both were evil and both had to be destroyed (Kershaw, 2000, pp. 330, 488). His reasoning was based on his belief that Christianity was an “illegitimate” Jewish child and, as a Jewish child, was swine like its parent that must be eradicated. Hitler considered Christianity the “invention of the Jew Saul” (Azar, 1990, p. 154).}}}}

Moron, slobbering moron.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

””“Have you ever heard the commandment Thou Shalt Not Take the Name of God in Vain? Many people think that just simply means don’t say “Oh my God” or “God dammit” or something like that. To me, it means not using God’s name in vain for means such as a business, or a war. “”

Bravo Bosch.

That’s just exactly what my mother taught us 50 years ago.

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Good day to all of my Atlanta blog friends!! Hope you guys will get some of this much needed rain we’re getting today…

first, I can’t resist making fun of dust ball’s first post yesterday…

“A rediculous cartoon! Badly drawn, impossible premise and obviously purely political. If you have to “figure out” a cartoon, then it is lost.”

Dust ball, what is RIDICULOUS is that you 1) don’t know how to spell ridiculous 2) you don’t have the needed retention capabilities of a third grader to figure out a cartoon!

Andy needs to go back and take a Western Civ course…or ANY course!

Doom - PLEASE, OH PLEASE! Put me on your sht list…cause you’re definately one of the smelliest shts on my list.

A lot of good posts today however…I just wish I had time to do more than skim…religion is one of my favorite topics…coming out of a Pentecostal Holiness home, I can guarantee you, I have much to add…maybe I can grab a min. or two shortly. Also, I saw first hand the neo-con revolution in its birth with the campaign of Pat Robertson…what a guy!…just can’t say too much about him. Also, have some great “Campus Crusade for Christ” stories to tell… In a perfect world this religious warfare we’ve got going on would only include the fundamentalist on both sides…too bad the rest of us have to live in reality.

Bosch & Amvet…some of the best and most eloquent posting as of late!! Still looking for that Bosch/Amvet ticket! :)

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

You quoting Marx now?

Too funny.

You’ll try anything to get people to believe your utter absurdity!

Did it ever occur to you that mass murder caused by religon is covered up by anal retentive, pharisees like you!

Goober, inbred, goober!

By getalife

September 11, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Killing and the hatred of others in the name of Religion will have the wingnuts and Islamic radicals together in hell.

The chose the wrong path.

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G - Thanks. It kills me how people b******* certain things - like that particular commandment - like the phrase “Oh My God” was even around back in the days of Moses. :-)

Hey Raisedanidiot, Religion is always a favorite of mine too - can you tell? I always like to expose the TRUE non-believers ha ha :-).

By Clyde

September 11, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

“Hate” seems to be big on today’s agenda.

Then there’s DUSTMITE. Learned only yesterday that dustmite may well be a woman. Trying to talk tough and act masculine. It’s not working. If Dustmite is a male, the masculinity scam is not working either. So no matter how one examines it, Dustmite loses on both frontiers. Guess the thing to do is not consider Dustmite a “she” or a “him,” but rather, a “shim.” Sort of a weak, runty thing filled w hostility and ignorance. Surely the most comical creature on this blog. Still looking for his resume tho. War Vet, Injuns, etc. Did he ever come face to face with Cochise? Did he grin him down? And how about those medical breakthroughs of Dustmites? So much to say, but such a shy shim. Pity.

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Best line of the day (month?) - Anal/Cranial inversion!!! LMAO!!

{…people that blame mass murder on religion just might be left wing perverts…?}

Is Andy of many manly names suggesting that the “Auto da Fe” was a hoax concocted by 15th century left wing perverts?

Too bad for him that he missed that one. He would’ve had an absolutely great time watching Torquemada work his magic at those public executions!

But I guess the best he can hope for is that stellar rendition by Mel Brooks in The History of the World, Part 1!

Also, Monty Python’s hilarious sketch about the use of comfy chairs and pillows during The Inquisition!

raised, thank you! But I doubt I’d help the ticket even with Bosch doing all of the heavy lifting! @@ would be sure to uncover as much dirt as she could find on me!!

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Go get ‘em Obama!!!

Today:

{{{It needs to be said that Barack Obama made some pretty solid points when questioning General Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker today — points that are probably on the minds of many people.

First Obama pointed out the absurdity of the hearing being held around September 11:

“I think we should not have had this discussion on 9/11, or 9/10 or 9/12. Because I think it perpetuates this notion that somehow the original decision to go into Iraq was directly related to the attacks on 9/11.”

Obama also made this rather salient point:

“It is not clear to me that the primary success you’ve pointed to, in Anbar, has anything to do with the surge.”

The best moment, though, might have been when he asked what exactly has to happen for us to withdraw from Iraq:

“If we’re there the same place a year from now can you please describe for me any circumstances in which you would make a different recommendation and suggest it is now time for us to start withdrawing our troops? Any scenario. Any set of benchmarks, that have not been met.”

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah…Bosch - I also think it a shame that your 9:02 went virtually unrecognized by the hate-mongers…so I’ll post it again for you…

“I think it would do us all some good today, to remember those who lost their lives on this day six years ago, and to also remember those who have lost their lives because of that day all over the world since then.”

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet September 11, 2007 3:07 PM Is Andy of many manly names suggesting that the “Auto da Fe” was a hoax concocted by 15th century left wing perverts?}}}}

Not even a hundred thousand victims, not even close:

{{{{In total about 1,500 persons were accused of Judaizing during the 16th and the 17th centuries: more than a hundred were executed in public and some two hundred died whilst in prison. On the other hand it seems that the Inquisition never reached a number of real crypto-Jews, who managed to live undisturbed in various Mexican settlements.}}}}

Ever hear a lib voice concerns about this, which happened this century?:

{{{{“While Interviewee 17 was in the North Korean Army, his unit was dispatched to widen the highway between Pyongyang and the nearby port city of Nampo. They were demolishing a vacated house in Yongkang county, Yongkang district town, when in a basement between two bricks they found a Bible and a small notebook that contained 25 names, one identified as pastor, two as chon-do-sa (assistant pastors), two as elders, and 20 other names, apparently parishioners, identified by their occupations. The soldiers turned the Bible and notebook over to the local branch of Department 15 of the Korean Workers Party (KWP), but the Party officials said it was up to the military police unit, Bowisaryungbu gigwanwon, to investigate. Tracked down at their place of work through the listing of occupation in the notebook, the 25 persons were picked up without formal arrest by the military bowibu. The five leaders to be executed - the pastor, two assistant pastors, and two elders - were bound hand and foot and made to lie down in front of a steamroller. The other twenty persons were held just to the side. The condemned were accused of being Kiddokyo (Protestant Christian) spies and conspiring to engage in subversive activities. Nevertheless, they were told, “If you abandon religion and serve only Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il, you will not be killed.” None of the five said a word. Some of the fellow parishioners assembled to watch the execution cried, screamed out, or fainted when the skulls made a popping sound as they were crushed beneath the steamroller.}}}}

By Truthman

September 11, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

To Doom and all the other false prophets:

As I said yesterday, none of you are true christians because y’all support war…and the rich…and the death penalty.

If any of you actually lived The Beatitudes…if any of you actually listened to the Sermon on the Mount and lived by it’s tenets, you’d certainly see the false prophecy of your Chimperor/idiot/murderer!!

BTW, I don’t espouse ANY religion. Religion is the opiate of the masses, that’s for sure!!

No god? Know Peace!!

By getalife

September 11, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Hagel asked:

“For what? The president said let’s buy time. “Buy time”? For what? Every report I’ve seen — and I assume both of you agree with this — there’s been really very little, if any, political process that is the ultimate core issue — political reconciliation in Iraq.”

Well, the board of Director for Haliburton and Texas oil billionaire Hunt signed an oil deal with the Kurds.

There ya go.

Mission Accomplished.

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

You might as well just give it up Duh.

You are never going to get us to go for your incredibly naive and fundamentally flawed theory.

Step away from your monitor,

take a deep breath,

drink some cool water

keep your hands above your waist

and pray that the almighty

will excuse your behavior

because of some “genetic” foul up

We got your number

and it it

zero

zip

zilch

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By Bosch

September 11, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot, Yeah, I noticed that too -

AmVet, Yes, even though I think we’d make a great team, and raisedanidiot would certainly be a high level member of our cabinet - but while in college, I used to have a tendency for the use of a certain plant that of course, I only used for medicinal purposes, that would cause a certain euphoria, but again, I used it mostly to calm down my much overworked brain. It wouldn’t take too much work to find my college mates.

By RE

September 11, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

I am going to give this a shot here for a rational discussion with Andy.

Looking at the various wars and strife caused by war, I think that religion and political idealogy have less of an influence on the actions of a nation than the makeup of that government.

For example, looking to Germany and Italy in the 1920s, each had a similar right wing facist government that was strongly opposed to communism. In effect, both became one party states without allowing for dissension, with a huge emphisis placed upon nationalism, any disagreement with the ruling party would be construed as an attack upon the country. While Germany had a mixed religious background and was anti-semetic, Italy always remained strongly catholic.

The USSR was a communist and athiest nation, under stalin millions dies as a result of poor economic policies, but again the root cause of the USSR not being more willing to change comes from the one party system, again with a strong emphisis on nationalism. To disagee with the ruling party was seen to be unpatriotic.

China is another example of an athiest communist country with a one party rule, and again any discension or critisism of the ruling party is not tolerated. Much like the USSR, many of it’s own citizens died as a result of poor economic policy and political killings.

Trying to pick a winner in some of these countries is a toss up. WOuld a communist led government in 1930 germany have been a better outcome than Hitler? Well it would be tough to be worse. What if Chaing Kai Check defeated Mao, Chaing was a criminal, how much better a society would China have been.

My point is, more than political or religious stance, the primary factor for a bellicose nation is one party rule.

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

My vote for best quote of the day…

Amvet - “Don’t pray in my school, and I won’t think in your church.”

How bout an Obama/Edwards ticket!

And even though being raisedanidiot, I predicted that the Betrayus report would surface on 9/11…so pitifully predictable!! Nazi freaks!

By Truthman

September 11, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Alright, Party at Bosch’s

I’ll bring the munchies!!

TM

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 11, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

{{{{By RE September 11, 2007 3:26 PM My point is, more than political or religious stance, the primary factor for a bellicose nation is one party rule.}}}}

RE: Ever heard of Angka? This is what the whackjobs in Cambodia called the state on their way to killing two million people.

Hitler killed because of the “purity” of the Aryan race.

Stalin slaughtered on behalf of the good of the state, your value was based solely on your contributions to it.

I guarantee, without a doubt, that the few misguided “christian” authorities throughout history can not even approach the number killed on behalf of the government.

It is insane to suggest otherwise.

Or naive.

Which doesn’t surprise me at all, most of these dullards consider the Atlanta Journal Constitution to be a “unbiased” authority, and with such trust, have become totally uninformed dolts that think they know everything.

By Hey Duh

September 11, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

You are just keeping us in stitches!

Beat that dead horse! Yes man!

Stay the course! No matter how dead WRONG you are!

It’s also so much fun to watch you when you start to squirm.

You so funny!

By Truthman

September 11, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Be nice to us, or we’ll bring Democracy to YOUR country!!

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

getalife, are you referring to that RINO, Hagel from Nebraska?

I laugh every time I think about Andy of many names always being so extremely p** about anyone, much less a respected combat veteran and GOP senator, bucking the administration on the Iraq occupation, that he goes completely mental and just starts making up sh!t.

Bosch, even though the former President wouldn’t admit to inhaling, many, many, many of us who came of age in the sixties and seventies have no such trouble with the truth.

I was almost more nervous about those who didn’t experiment with psychotropics than those who did.

So the fact that the current commander-in-chief probably did some blow, weed, etc. was never a factor for me. Just his “absence” from the ANG, buying an oil company in Texas and then not finding any oil and bankrupting it and trading Sammy Sosa to the White Sox.

Now THAT’S scary!

And never mind his inability to find Pakistan on a map!

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Bosch @3:24 - Not to worry…we can either a) claim any damning evidence to be protected under executive priviledge b) make up faulty intelligence and proclaim war on some feeble country as a diversion, or better yet c) just say that God told you to do it…there’s your trump card! That’s right folks…God told me to smoke that reefer! It is holy reefer… and I say it is not only unpatriotic to question my reefer but downright blasphemous!

By Don't let him betray us

September 11, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Petraeus: ‘I Don’t Know’ if Iraq Victory Will Make U.S. Safer

By RE

September 11, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

How about Pinochet in Chile, or Duvalier in Haiti. Both catholic and anti-communist in thier stance. It is a one party system that is most unstable.

The main goal of the government becomes preserving it’s own power and eliminating discension, that is the point at which a government becomes most brutal and unstable, the politics are an afterthought.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

Yes, they have lost a good con Senator and think since there are no term limits, we should automatically vote out the incumbents after a couple of terms. Career politicians are not what our founding fathers had in mind. They are corrupt.

Watching Lieberman at the hearing trying to get Betrayus to extend the mission into Iran and he was shot down. The General said we should focus on Iraq.

Score one for the General but most of the gop are using this hearing to sale the war in Iran.

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

getalife, it is interesting that Hagel expressed the very thought you did - 12 years is enough. He says that after that, it is time for fresh faces and ideas. Not the same old claptrap recycled through various GOP administrations.

Not just because he was born in my home town, but I am really proud of Chuck Hagel. And though I disagreed with him on numerous issues, he had the courage to stand alone and break ranks with his leadership on the very most important issue of our times.

And it is his courage and vision, both during and after his military service, that so distinctly separates him from the vast majority in his political party.

By Getitright

September 11, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Wait a second Mikey. The law that was passed authorizing the “surge” included a requirement that the President brief Congress on the status of the surge. But, you seem to be making fun of the President for making sure he follows the law. I guess the Dems’s will pass along a little something extra since you are doing your best to push their agenda. Grow a couple, Mikey, and have your own opinion instead of what your masters at moveon.org tell you.

By bon scott

September 11, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, nice. So nice. Bloody nice.

Dusty kills because she likes to kill.

Never been a sociopath myself. What a perverted state to exist.

Better stop. My keyboard’s smoking.

Really’

By getalife

September 11, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

The idea was for farmers and other trades to come to Washington and serve their country for a few years. Then go back to their real jobs.

The system is corrupt with lobbyists but the voters can change it with voting out all incumbants serving more than two terms.

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Bin Laden is encouraging martyrdom for his fundamentalist…why can’t we do the same?

I’m laughing my azz off over the article on evangelicals having a problem with Thompson for not “having a blood trail” over gay marriage issue…I found out via my children that my ex is a Thompson supporter…hee hee.

By Hey Getitright

September 11, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

””“you seem to be making fun of the President for making sure he follows the law”“”

WRONG O DUDE

We are making fun of the President for making a mockery of the law!

If we could count on him to tell the truth - there would be no joke.

If we could count on him to not cook the books, there would be no cartoon.

He made himself the joke.

MoveOn scares so many of you. Hysterical

We on the lib side, are not the least bit afraid of AIE, or Heritage Foundation, or Cato, or whatever that new one is that is pushing Ari Fliechser (sp??) 15.5 million dollar ad campaign.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Lazy fred said he does not go to church, advised counsel for a terrorist plane attack, wants due process for OBL and was an abortion lobbyist.

The wingnuts will not like his wife and will never vote for this guy but he is duh’s favorite .

Go figure.

Geez.

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

raised, Large Fred is going to do well among the party’s more rabid “base” - older, Southern, immoderate males.

But he’s not much of a church goer and has a little problem with apparently having helped some nasty “non-base” type groups.

Rudy will do well with younger voters, non-Southerners, moderates and women. It is still his nomination to lose.

Romney and McCain are toast.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

O.K. so it’s been an hour now and no lib has found a legitimate list of the “millions” that Christians have killed, nope, all we’ve gotten from the dullards is schoolyard taunts and childish sneering, much like how they conduct their business in Congress:

{{{{By Hey Duh September 11, 2007 3:52 PM You are just keeping us in stitches! Beat that dead horse! Yes man! Stay the course! No matter how dead WRONG you are! It’s also so much fun to watch you when you start to squirm. You so funny!}}}}

Sounds like Waxman, don’t it?

Or any 3 year infant child for that matter.

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

I rather like Fred’s wife :)…can I vote for her?

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 11, 2007 4:58 PM The wingnuts will not like his wife and will never vote for this guy but he is duh’s favorite.}}}}

al-Gitmo: I’ll bet lazy Fred has had intimate relations with his spouse in the last decade, unlike Hillary has, and I’ll also wager that Fred’s wife doesn’t grope and rape every woman in sight like Hillary’s “husband” does.

Plus I doubt if lazy Fred is getting millions in illegal Chinese campaign money, in exchange for future nuclear secrets I’m sure, like Hillary is.

Even more, Fred will probably win the war in Iraq before Hillary keeps the promise she made and pulls the troops out.

Sucks rooting for a liar, don’t it?

You got your candidate, I got mine.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Ah, the total obsession with Clenis.

That is weird man.

So, you want to do background checks on donors.

Another assault on freedom.

That is pitiful man.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

“Romney Camp Linked To Attack Site Calling Thompson “Moron,” “Skirt Chaser”

Duh should ask fred’s ex wives about him groping women. I guess duh will be fascinated with fred’s “little red truck” too. Weird.

Nixon called him dumb as hell so he has a lot in common with w.

Geez.

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

Duh is for delusional…

Here are stats for biblical times only…

“Biblical Atrocities Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf. Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were killed.) Joshua: Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed. Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon (“larger than Ai”), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. “He left no survivors.” Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000] TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed. Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed. Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River. Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed. 1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle. David: 2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2 battles. 2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at Helam. 2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim. 1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek. Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall. 2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties. 2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000. 2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the Bible.”

Shall we move on to the crusades then?

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

{{{{By raisedanidiot September 11, 2007 5:37 PM Duh is for delusional… Here are stats for biblical times only… “Biblical Atrocities Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites}}}}

Oh, now the libs believe the Bible, what a great and joyous day this is.

I’ve converted an idiot to religion, I saved a soul from it’s own ignorance, go and hear the word of God, you dullard.

And by the way, I was talking about Christianity, you stupid clod.

Duh, geez.

(P.S. I know you still do not understand, 1) the Old Testament lists battles the Jews fought against their PERSECUTORS, hard to believe, but there is a big difference between self defense and cold blooded murder, moron. 2) The New Testament tells the Blessed story of our Saviour Jesus Christ and his subsequent Body the Church of Christianity. You may as well start there, considering that’s where we started. 3) It looks to me like your number falls short of a million, but what ever.)

Slobbering goony.

~~~~~

{{{{By getalife September 11, 2007 5:28 PM Ah, the total obsession with Clenis.}}}}

His “wife” is running for president, dearie.

Check this out for total desperation, so far the lib smear campaign against lazy Fred is that he doesn’t attend church and he’s got a cute wife.

The horror!

Not only that, he wants to give Al Qaeda operatives a fair trial!

I agree with you Gitmo, we need to be summarily executing these terrorists, hell with due process, where is that guy coming from?!?

Call me old fashioned, but the guy has got a long way to go before he can even begin to claim the amount of corruption that the Clintoons have amassed.

Maybe Thompson is too good for you perverts, no?

By raisedanidiot

September 11, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

delusional - your original statement was…easy to look up…just scroll the little tool bar up…

“Especially considering the real horrors that lie within realm of your beloved Socialism, after all, communists have killed more people the last one hundred years than have been killed by religion since the beginning of time.”

Our whole topic of conversation today has been the evils of religion…do you only equate christianity with religion? That’s very telling!

Listen, I gotta close up shop, duh…I don’t have time to do your research for you…I suggest you pick up any Western Civ. textbook…enlightenment is good! I promise…it won’t hurt.

until tomorrow…I shall go and enjoy this cool 80 degree weather we’re having with some good imported beer …or two.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

duh,

He wants due process OBL and counsels terrorists.

Your candidate is a moron like Willard said.

And an abortion lobbyist.

I am sure more will come out about your candidate.

A sure loser like you.

Geez.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

Idiot: This is the post that brought on your reply-

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrat September 11, 2007 5:11 PM O.K. so it’s been an hour now and no lib has found a legitimate list of the “millions” that Christians have killed.}}}}

Christians, C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n-s.

I do not speak nor vouch for Islam.

Stop trying to weasle your way out.

By getalife

September 11, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Great duh,

Lazy fred is an abortion lobbyist so now you are pro choice.

You want due process, close Gitmo and try them.

You are now a lib.

Geez.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife September 11, 2007 6:40 PM Great duh, Lazy fred is an abortion lobbyist so now you are pro choice. You want due process, close Gitmo and try them. You are now a lib.}}}}

al- Gitmo: I know you are clueless about these things and are just doing your Islamic propaganda duty, but Thompson is a lawyer, and many, many lawyers argue both sides of the law, in fact, I believe most of them do.

{{{{Fred Thompson has a solid pro-life voting record, but he has gotten more pro-life over time. Of all of the viable presidential candidates (and although he hasn’t announced, he will almost certainly run) Fred Thompson has the most solid pro-life voting record, and he seems to be the most solidly pro-life candidate.}}}}

It’s the vote that counts.

By @@

September 11, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

Gee ml, if you’re going on vacation it would be nice if your webmaster just put up a rerun cartoon or something to diminish the download time.

AmVet:

I wouldn’t have dirt to dig up had you not left any.

Bosch:

I’m a little surprised that you would attack John’s testimonial.

We have all used the creator’s name in vain. Your guilt lies in using it within the same sentence where you pass judgment on other Christians. That’s how I see it anyway.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

“Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm!”

Those are the only two that readily come to my mind. Many others on the topic but I’m finishing up dinner.

I am not here to judge you nor are you here to judge John. We all fall short…We, none of us are without sin nor should we act as though we are.

By Ray

September 11, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this

Duh - please go back to defending Republicans who solicit cops for sex, and leave Christianity alone. Being that the GOP has done nothing but wipe their backside with the Bible for the last seven years, having you speak for Christianity is kind of like a Mike Vick dog training video.

By AmVet

September 11, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

On this solemn day of remembrance, let us not forget that this nation will always prevail.

We may, like a family, fight among ourselves, but our enemies would be wise to not mistake this for weakness.

Because when it comes to defending this land, we will like our founding fathers “mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”

By getalife

September 11, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Yeah, he voted pro life but w******* and got paid for pro choice.

A flip flop for the cash.

I think he will lose his bus in a month and McLoser will take it off his hands.

At least McLoser wants to get OBL.

Here is OBL’s due process, a predator missile in the middle of his video.

Geez.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 11, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Ray September 11, 2007 7:04 PM Duh - please go back to defending Republicans who solicit cops for sex, and leave Christianity alone.}}}}

You mean defending homosexuals right? Like you democrats won’t do?

~~~~~

{{{{{By getalife September 11, 2007 7:16 PM Here is OBL’s due process, a predator missile in the middle of his video.}}}}

al-Gitmo: A Predator is a surveillance drone, not a missile, although I suppose they could crash land it on Has Bin.

You libs sure do seem awful worried about lazy Fred and believe me, I can understand why.

Hehehehehe.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 12, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

{{{{The Old Farmer’s Almanac says it used time-honored, complex calculations to predict that 2008 will be the warmest year in a century, along with a bit of folklore—years that end in “8” have weird weather. Claiming a secret formula based on (((((((((sunspots))))))) as well as meteorology, the almanac forecasts a hot summer in most areas, but cool and dry in the upper Midwest. It says there will be more rain than normal—except in Florida and the already dry West.}}}}

Sunspots? The Sun has something to do with warming? No! It can’t be!

And just to show you how this little bit of information goes totally against the grain of “man made” warming, notice how the Atlanta Journal Constitution EDITED IT OUT of their blurb, which of course kept the warming scare in it:

2008 to be warm year, almanac says- Urinal

If you think the AJC and liberals don’t slant the “news” to fit their agenda, you are a sap.

~~~~~~

So do you think the libs will ever do an article about what horrific damage to the environment is done by printing the “news” paper, from trees being ripped from the Earth to landfills overflowing with paper waste, or will they just stick to bleating about things that take away value from their Piedmont Park property?:

{{{{With deck, Piedmont not so green- Queen Pinko, Urinal}}}}

~~~~~~

{{{{Elected politicians know better than to blame the customers. In fact, Reagan’s precipitate fall in popularity suggests that people had all along known many of the weaknesses in a President they nonetheless liked. It is hard to decide which is more remarkable in their attitude: that they think Reagan is lazy and uninformed and tells lies or that they still approve of and like him. Their willingness to hold two such contrary opinions suggests a willingness to be as optimistic as he is.-Time Mar. 30, 1987 }}}}

Lazy, hehehehe.

By Hey Duh

September 12, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

School yard taunts?

That’s all that is needed for a bedwetting pre-adolescent bully like you!

For all your silliness yesterday you never NEVER came up with any Data to prove your ridiculous premise that communism killed more people that religion since the beginning of time.

That’s how it always goes with you.

BULL, BULL, BULL,

Then you get challenged

Then fake outrage and more BULL

The challenge continues

More outrage, simmering anger, vile epithets, more BULL

If we keep your feet to the fire eventually you do something real Stupid and get yourself banned for a while.

SO – Anti- Andy’s Army….

Keep the pressure up.

He melts down regularly.

And he so funny!

By From Russia with Rove

September 12, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin dissolved Russia’s government Wednesday in a major political shakeup ahead of parliamentary and presidential elections, the Kremlin said.

The dissolution is expected to result in a new prime minister, who will be seen as Putin’s choice to succeed him after he steps down next spring.

Sounds like Karl Rove has already got a new gig!!!

I think King George and Vlad are so tight, the Chimperor sent his main man, Rover, to Moscow to ‘help out’ the cause.

By Hey Duh

September 12, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Additionally

your “unusual” stance on global warming is also way too funny

just suck in some of that wonderful fresh air coming out of the back of your car, take a big drink of fresh lake lanier, and play in the dirt at some old Kerr-McGee site!

in the end, andydullduh, you will get what you deserve.

By Don't let him betray us

September 12, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Soltz: Petraeus not knowing if Iraq strategy is making us safer shows Bush “is hiding behind General Petraeus”

Jon Soltz from VoteVets weighs in on the “stunning admission” from General Petraeus that he doesn’t know if Bush’s Iraq strategy is making us safer. The transcript and video of that testimony from Petraeus are in a post below: This exchange verifies the argument VoteVets.org has been making, that General Petraeus’ job is not to take those things into account, and therefore the President is hiding behind General Petraeus.

Let me explain.

General Petraeus was given an order — find a military solution for Iraq where there is none, and without concern for troop overextension or the larger war on terror. General Petraeus followed his orders, giving the president what he wanted to hear, and now the president will hide behind that to justify his failure as a commander in chief.

General Petraeus has a very limited area of concern — the US military in Iraq — and his testimony today reflected that.

When one looks at the grander scale, past just the military in Iraq, the picture is dismal, and becoming a critical danger. From the Government Accountability Office report to Congressional Research Service report to the report by General Jones, it is clear that there has been no political reconciliation overall in Iraq or increased security, despite our military’s strongest efforts.

From Admiral Fallon to Admiral Mullen, those above General Petraeus in the chain of command are telling the president that this war is hurting our military and our global security. The president has chosen to ignore all of this, in favor of a report based on a false premise with faulty findings, signed by a General with a very limited scope of concern. Call it denial, or call it stubbornness, or whatever you want; it all boils down to the same thing — this president still refuses to listen to those he needs to listen to, in favor of those who tell him what he wants to hear.

Unwittingly, General Petraeus just confirmed all of that in the exchange above, today.

By That closet is getting SOOOO full

September 12, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Untangling the latest GOP gay scandal

They’re Everywhere!

By WTH?

September 12, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

[[this president still refuses to listen to those he needs to listen to, in favor of those who tell him what he wants to hear.]]

Bush sounds like a liberal Democ-rap voter.

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

In my opinion, General Petraeus seems like a stand up guy. A military general who is doing what he’s told to do. He can give all the data he wants, and each side is going to “analyze” it to fit their agenda.

I listened to a bit of the testimony on Monday, but caught most of the committee members talks before the actual testimony. There were two things I found peculiar: one, the first guy who spoke, the Rep. from California (I can’t remember his name, old guy, with a funny accent) spoke about actual reports, facts, etc. Then Duncan Hunter starts off his speech with his outrage over MoveOn.org’s ad, and said very little after that.

MoveOn.org - let’s see, is that a government agency? NO. Who cares about MoveOn’s ad, and for Duncan Hunter to even mention it in his speech says worlds. It was almost sad to watch.

But I digress, I think General Petraeus is very trustworthy. He’s been in Iraq, he’s been doing the job he was told to do. It’s not his job to analyze the data, it’s his job to report the data, and I think he did a good job at doing that. I don’t think he’s lied to Congress, or tried to cover up anything. Like I said, it isn’t his job to analyze the data, that is the government’s job, and we all know how well the current administration is at analyzing data.

Seriously, are any of us surprised at this testimony? I certainly was not.

By Hey WTH

September 12, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Democrap voters?

Not as funny

or as based in reality as

republiCON voter.

By Hey Bosch

September 12, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

””” It’s not his job to analyze the data, it’s his job to report the data,”“”

That’s true, to be sure.

But isn’t that the ultimate bottom line? The very minimum standard?

Does he know they have changed how they count the bodies? Does he know they have changed how they categorize those deaths? Does he know that those numbers create an innacurate picture of the situation?

Is “minimum standard” an acceptable level of performance for the general?

Minimum standard performance is not what makes a nation great.

By Is W still "dating" these guys?

September 12, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

ABC’s Brian Ross reports that wealthy Saudi Arabians are “fillilng al Qaeda’s coffers.” “If I could somehow snap my fingers and cut off the funding from one country, it would be Saudi Arabia,” Stuart Levey, the under secretary of the Treasury in charge of tracking terror financing

By Paul

September 12, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Bosch

I pretty much agree with your assessment of General Petraeus. He was the senior officer driving much of the counterinsurgency theory - which, I believe, he was trying to do early on but did not have a receptive audience from the traditionalists. From what I remember of his remarks at the onset, they were along the lines of “no guarantees, but this is the best shot. We’ll see what happens.” So he reported what happened - and I heard his say, time and again, that the data were not uniform - that there was progress in some locales, others, not. He described what worked and why.

But to ask partisan politicians to extrapolate from that to anything other than finding data to support their political positions is asking too much.

Regarding MoveOn - they are highly influential within the Democratic Party, particularly the far left wing. The unfortunate reality is the nomination process pretty much requires pandering to them and their agenda or risk having their seats contested. Just look at what happened to the Democratic Congressman from Washington who said “I’ve just returned from Iraq and here’s what I saw.”

I don’t think there’s anything comparable on the right. There are no groups that can demand and receive regular conference calls with the party leadership to direct strategy. In fact, the number of Rep candidates who have opposing views on gun control, abortion, etc is pretty amazing. I don’t see a divergence like that with the Dem candidates. The fact the Rep candidates can make it this far shows how weakened the far right interest groups have become.

I saw the Moveon ad as a preemptive strike to preserve the Dems distinction as the “out now” party, which will, they think, guarantee the election (even though the candidates don’t really mean “out”). As I said the other day, I think Pres Bush, beginning several months ago, has laid the groundwork for a drawdown, and the Petraeus report will provide the cover. It won’t be as much as many would like, but it will be done under the guise of “military advice” - not just “I think N is a nice number.” So then we head into the election many voters could see less differences than they do now - and that will mean it won’t be “I want troops out so I vote Dem.”

con’t

By AmVet

September 12, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Winning the war on terror, neo-con style.

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf — a key U.S. ally — is less popular in his own country than al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, according to a poll of Pakistanis conducted last month by an anti-terrorism organization.

Additionally, nearly three-fourths of poll respondents said they oppose U.S. military action against al Qaeda and the Taliban inside Pakistan, according to results from the poll conducted by the independent polling organization Terror Free Tomorrow.

“We have conducted 23 polls all over the Muslim world, and this is the most disturbing one we have conducted,” said Ken Ballen, the group’s head. “Pakistan is the one Muslim nation that has nuclear weapons, and the people who want to use them against us — like the Taliban and al Qaeda — are more popular there than our allies like Musharraf.”

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/11/poll.pakistanis/index.html

By Paul

September 12, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Bosch

con’t

Besides which, referencing the ad - latest (CBS?) poll showed the public has about three or four times the confidence in the military as the Congress. So along comes this highly capable person whose dedicated his life to service, who has risked being killed – and the far left, with their penchant for leading off criticism with cutesy plays on peoples’ names, did the rhyming thing with General Petraeus. But to a military officer, there can be no more base, foul, despicable insult than to be accused of being a traitor. To be accused of willing to sell one’s honor and repudiate one’s sacred oath for anything, even a base political agenda, is beyond the pale.

I think there are many people who aren’t all that up on these daily political discussions, who have only a passing recognition of MoveOn – but what they will remember now is “oh yeah, they’re the Democratic group who accuses generals of treason.” And that won’t be good for the Democratic

By Hey Paul

September 12, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Gotta challenge you on your incorrect perception of MoveOn.

Can you find one of their positions that is not supported by the majority of American’s?

They are substantially more main stream than the 30% want us to believe.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 12, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Hey Duh September 12, 2007 8:07 AM For all your silliness yesterday you never NEVER came up with any Data to prove your ridiculous premise that communism killed more people that religion since the beginning of time.}}}}

Check this out, the luckovich blog court jester is denying that communists have killed at least 90,000,000 people the last one hundred years.

You know, this is just what I would expect to see from a clown, some “know it all” illiterate dullard, that obviously can’t find the “millions” that Christians have supposedly killed.

{{{{China: 72 million, Soviet Union 20 million, Cambodia 2.3 million, North Korea 2 million, Africa 1.7 million, Afghanistan 1.5 million, Vietnam 1 million, Eastern Europe 1 million, Latin America 150,000.}}}}

All dead, all killed by socialism’s first cousin communism.

Anybody else want to join with this bozo “Hey Duh” and deny this fact?

{{{{He melts down regularly.}}}}

Look at the hysterical, babbling posts at 8:07 and 8:21, and you tell me who’s “melting down?”

Geez.

By Paul

September 12, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul

Sure. Their goal is to elect “progressives” (see their web site, “about”) (the latest buzzword to avoid saying “liberal”). I don’t believe the majority of Americans identify themselves as “progressive/liberal.” Given the makeup of the House and Senate, I think that’s pretty clear.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 12, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Far from being a form of illness, far from being an uncontrollable piece breaking off from your soul and drifting into the aether, your child is your arrow flying forward through time. Having children is a way of smuggling your soul out from inside the hangman’s noose in manageable installments. There is a real inconvenient truth for you, one that definitely affects our future, even without dubious computer projections. My mother died 39 years ago on Sept. 12, 1968, aged only thirty years. She was just a nineteen-year-old newlywed when I was conceived, so I imagine I was a nuisance from Day One. But she stuck with it, and today she lives on, in these words, on this page.

By AmVet

September 12, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Hi Paul, it is good to see you back!

{In fact, the number of Rep candidates who have opposing views on gun control, abortion, etc is pretty amazing.}

Maybe it is just perspective, but I don’t see that.

Although once, quite a long while ago, I did do some research on “voting the party line” numbers and was slightly surprised to see that the Dems were actually more “guilty” than the GOP. I would be interested to see if that has changed over the past few years.

Would you kindly provide some evidence regarding the above “opposing views” claim?

{The fact the Rep candidates can make it this far shows how weakened the far right interest groups have become.}

I would agree, But with one caveat. The extreme religious right is always regrouping and looking for any way to overly influence the GOP. I don’t see this “God wants Christian Republicans in power” mentality significantly changing anytime soon.

Far left interest groups have always and will always be influential. Even with their two-edge sword nature, they are the ones who are pushing the envelope and are synonymous with the most progressive changes in this country - civil rights, womens rights, anti-war, etc.

And though they have plenty of goofy ideas, and distasteful methods, they are not considered nearly as horrific, or dangerous IMHO, by mainstream America, as those posited by the extreme neo-conservative right wing.

And that is why after such a very, very short time in power, their swan song is currently playing.

By Hey DUH

September 12, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Check this out

the master of inbred goobers still does not get it.

90M yep commies got them

see my post from yesterday(sourced)

Religon 809,215,732

Communism 94,000,000

You can’t change the numbers butt head!

You can’t address the facts!

In case the math is tooooo much for your feeble brain 809 million is a BIGGER NUMBER than 90million.

Go back to your original STUPID statement.

Any idea how incredibility DENSE you appear this morning?

We all saw your statement.

YOU DID NOT AND COULD NOT BACK IT UP.

So what to you do?

You post a number (suspiciously close to the one I GAVE YOU yesterday) and pretend to ignore the other number.

You are one sorry SOB.

But you are still tooooo funny!

I’m gonna pass this one around for everybody to laugh at!

By Dusty

September 12, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

I agree with several here that General Petraeus is an honest, forthright man. He is most believable as was Ambassador Crocker.

I expected some good news from the General because most reports about the “surge” have been favorable. The ambassador was not filled with good news and reported it as such.

But many liberals here and in Congress cannot believe anyone with any connection to President Bush has validity. That is the Democratic Mantra, the only thing they can find to “run on”.

I don’t know anything about Move ON. But I do know that whatever slight percentage of approval that Congress had, went below zero yesterday. Lantos, Boxer and Biden seem to think they were questioning criminals.

This largely California group was a disgrace to our troops as personified by their rejection of General Petraeus. It was sad to see the General given the same traitorous treatment given to the Commander-in-Chief by liberals.

Democrats are fast establishing themselves as the Benedict Arnold Bunch of this generation during wartime.

By Hey Paul

September 12, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Gotta challenge you on that whole progressive thing.

What we currently identify ourselves as is really pretty screwed up.

Labels don’t really work anymore.

Hell, technically I am a progressive republican.

I know you and the other 30% see Media Matters as a “hate site” but this piece is really good,

The Progressive Majority: Why a Conservative America Is a Myth

Excerpt:

The issues covered in this report include the following:

The role of government - Americans support an active government that tackles problems, provides services, and aids those in need.

The economy - Americans support increasing the minimum wage and strong unions, and believe the wealthy and corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes.

Social issues - Americans support legal abortion and embryonic stem cell research; opinions on equal rights for women and gay Americans have grown dramatically more progressive in recent years.

Security - Americans support a progressive approach to national security, emphasizing strong alliances and diplomacy over the indiscriminate use of military force. On domestic security issues, progressive approaches to crime and gun control enjoy wide support.

The environment - By enormous margins, Americans favor strong environmental protections, a core progressive belief.

Energy - Americans support energy conservation and the development of alternative fuels.

Health care - Americans clearly favor universal coverage and are more than comfortable with government solutions to the health care problem.

In short, a look across the scope of American public opinion reveals a public that holds progressive positions and supports progressive solutions on economic issues, on social issues, on security issues - indeed, on nearly all the key issues confronting the country. For years, the conventional wisdom has maintained just the opposite, but the facts are impossible to ignore.

I take the research presented here a bit more seriously than you personal beliefs. (No insult intended)

By Paul

September 12, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Hello AmVet

I’m about to leave on another trip so won’t be here long.

I believe Guiliani, McCain (whose candidacy is about dead) are pretty much in favor of leaving abortion law alone. Particularly at the Federal level (which is the level they should address). Okay, I’ll stick with Giuliani here, as I don’t have the time to confirm the other candidates’ positions. Same with gun control. No rollback, in some cases, for strengthening.

Interesting that gun control is seen as a conservative position, yet a couple of the most powerful Dem Congressmen (Dingell, Michigan) are darlings of the NRA. Who says lobbyist money and tactics can’t buy loyalty? (Hmmm, I wonder if MoveOn studied the NRA’s tactics and adopted them… LOL!).

Health insurance reform. Guiliani, too. Same with Romney. Difference is many on far left want only single-payer, no compromise. Romney has shown he can compromise. Altho I’m not sure that issue is a good example, but many who want to leave it alone are from the right.

As far as voting the party ticket, I think an examination of the data will bear out your thesis.

Gotta pack, I’ll check in before I leave -

By N-GA

September 12, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Good morning, Paul. I suppose that MoveOn.Org is a lot like the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth in that they have no qualms about attacking a veteran and calling him a coward/traitor. A little like Saxby Chambliss calling Max Cleland “soft on terror”.

There is a lot to be said for free speech. But when many voters are only as informed as the last (spinning) sound-bite, perhaps something needs to be done to rein in the spin-meisters.

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Amvet, I saw that on CNN last night - OBL - 46% approval rating among Pakistanis - Musharraf - 36%

That’s horrifying to me. We are one bullet away or one election away of dealing with a country where OBL is hiding probably in plain sight, that really does’t like us too much, AND has ready to go nuclear weapons that can blow us off the planet. Gee, where’d the foreign policy go here?

Paul - I’m working on a chart right now, one of my least favorite things to do, so I think I agree with you on most of what you said - but about MoveOn - sure they are a liberal group whose got a lot of press time lately, but I don’t think they are as mainstream as they would like to think they are - maybe to certain sectors of the population, but not the whole in general. My great aunt whatever isn’t going to know who MoveOn is because one thing she doesn’t know how to turn on a computer.

Hey Bosch, Yes, I’m sure Petraeus does know all that stuff, but he is reporting the data how he has been told to report it - it’s not Petraeus, it’s his Commander whose telling him how to report it. Luckily, there are those who know otherwise (like what you said about the body count, etc.)

Like I said, Petraeus is reporting it, others are analyzing it and part of the analysis process is using other information to back up or refute the facts.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 12, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Hey DUH September 12, 2007 10:05 AM Religon 809,215,732 Any idea how incredibility DENSE you appear this morning? YOU DID NOT AND COULD NOT BACK IT UP.}}}}

I’m not getting into a pointless circle jerk with an illiterate dunce, especially a hysterical one.

It is not my fault that you are uneducated, in fact, I’m fighting to make things better for your children so that they don’t turn out hopelessly stupid like you are.

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats September 11, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this {{{{By Hey Duh September 11, 2007 1:57 PM ””“”Especially considering the real horrors that lie within realm of your beloved Socialism, after all, communists have killed more people the last one hundred years than have been killed by religion since the beginning of time.”“”“” That does not sound right to me.}}}} From the dullard’s link, all I needed to know: {{{{Holocaust, 1938-45}}}}

9 minutes after you posted your bald faced lie, I refuted it, indisputably refuted it.

Are you incapable of basic comprehension?

Bye-bye, clown, enjoy your last response from me.

(P.S. I still haven’t seen the “millions” that Christians have “killed”——> don’t even bother answering that “Hey Duh” retard, it was for everybody else, like Amvet, for instance.)

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Let me clarify here a moment: Part of the analysis process is to use other valid, information to see if these particular facts (say the ones reported by Petraeus) are indeed valid, or can be refuted - oh hell, or something like that, in a hurry, deadline, gotta run!

By Hey Paul and Bosch

September 12, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Again, please

Can you find a position of MoveOn that the majority of Americans don’t support?

By Paul

September 12, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul 10:13

I love the challenges. Not to “prove” anything - just the ideas.

Hit most Americans with those reasonable positions and they agree. The devil’s in the details. Get real particular, positions change.

Do you support energy conservation and alternate fuels? Yes.

Will you give up your pickup, SUV, support a CAFE increase of 50 percent? Uh, no.

Will you support alternate fuels if your gas mileage goes down 20 percent and the cost goes up 15 percent? Uh, no.

Do you support wind power? Uh, no (Sen Kennedy and a score of other Dem and Rep politicians).

Do you support universal health coverage? Yes.

If EVERYONE (like the Brit/Swedish models, with few exceptions) has to pay 20 percent of their gross pay to fund it? Uh, WHAT?!!?

Do you support abortion rights? Yes.

Do you support abortion rights with no restrictions? No.

See what I mean? :)

N-GA

That, I think, was Moveon’s error - ascribing political motives and character to a senior, active duty, military officer and being willing to slander his good name for political advantage.

(Sigh) I agree about the reigning in. But I think the only practical way is through the debate of ideas - which often leads to more spinning.

By Political Foreskin

September 12, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Look at Patreus. Nothing about the missing ordnance. He dont know nuthin, he was just being four star, word.

Patraeus is an idiot. Another supply sargent with too much salt-peter principled away.

Resign, Gen. Moron. We get the bit. You cant see the enemy, yet the enemy sees you clearly. Great plan. Step aside. You are not competent to lead an army and small children should not be exposed to you.

Shame, sir.

I SAID SHAME!

By N-GA

September 12, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

I think it would be interesting to analyze why the 2 GOP candidates who appear to be the least religious get the most support.

Giuliani & Thompson are both divorced (and re-married with “trophy” brides). Both are womanizers. Thompson admits he rarely attends church services and refuses to discuss his views on the subject insisting it is a private matter. Do they really represent conservative values? Or are they simply thought to be more electable?

By Dodgin the Bullet

September 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Seeing General Petraeus tip-toe his way through Congressional testimony reminds me that the heads of career military officers, such as he, remain firmly planted up the arsses of Republican War Bucks profiteers who have often given them carte blanche in terms of funding and preferential treatment in the budgetary process. (that’s a nice way of saying that they have been bought and paid for)

Career military officers are most often beholding to and loyal to Republicans. Whether we care to acknowledge it or not, career officers are not unbiased sources of opinion. The general only provided us with his opinion among a bare sprinkling of facts that are themselves open to interpretation and that appear to have been cherry-picked.

If we want the TRUTH about what is going on in Iraq and the rest of the mid-east, we should listen to the lowest-ranking enlisted soldiers who are putting their keisters on the line in the streets of a country in which over half of the entire population thinks it is ok to use IED/EFP’s against our soldiers, and in which nearly 2/3 of the entire population want us GONE!!!

King George continues his failed effort at placing the armed services in charge of (and responsible for) America’s foreign policy. Is there anything quite as disgusting as a chickenhawk commander who cowardly sets his subordinates up to take a bullet for him?

By Paul

September 12, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul and Bosch

Again, please. One of their positions is to elect liberals/progressives. Do the majority of Americans (nationwide) support this? I think not, evidenced by the current makeup of local, state and federal elected officials.

Now I really must shower and pack -

By Hey Paul

September 12, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Great Post!

But where’s your DATA?

Yes, the devil IS in the details.

By mm

September 12, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Deaths: Religion vs. Communism

By getalife

September 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

duh,

Google predator missile you freaking idiot .

Here is the only gop with a brain

By Hey Paul

September 12, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Remember 2006?

Seen the anticipatory numbers on 2008 congressional races?

Yes, I think the American people are voting and will continue to vote more liberal/progressive.

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

N-GA - Interesting point about Thompson and G-man - if a Democratic candidate said they didn’t regularly attend church and it was nobody’s business they would be labeled as Spawns of Satan. Since they’re Republicans and Democrats usually don’t care about that so much, it’s a non-issue.

Hypocritical just a bit?

Dodgin the Bullet - You really need to lighten up on Petraeus and target your anger where it’s most warranted: the Commander in Chief.

And I have a question for AmVET about the low-ranking guy on the streets of Baghdad point that Dodgin said:

I was never in the military, I will fully admit that - but again, I digress

How much does the lower ranking combat soldier know about the mission? I have an uncle who was in Vietnam, and he told me once that his job for 15 months was to simply wake up, walk one mile and shoot anything that wasn’t an American soldier, and hope to hell he didn’t get shot in the process - pretty simple. His point was that he and the other soldiers weren’t told the bigger picture.

Just curious.

By Hey mm

September 12, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

great post, thanks!

the only way that duh will ever go for it though is if it were miraculously spelled out by the letters in his bowl of alphabits!

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Hey al-Gitmo: Google this.

~~~~~~

{{{{For Democrats, the hearings were a disaster. They don’t have the votes to force a withdrawal and many were left sputtering mad over their inability to get a usable quote out of Petraeus or Ambassador Ryan Crocker that would allow them to declare defeat for Bush’s strategy. Never before has it been so clear that some - Ted Kennedy, for example - are putting partisanship ahead of country. Indeed, their performance was so shockingly awful that I am inclined to believe charges that some Democrats actually hope we lose. Up to now, I’ve always viewed such charges as rancid partisanship that demonized legitimate differences. Now I’m not so sure. My distress began with a smear on Petraeus from Rep. Tom Lantos (D-Calif.), who declared his testimony not credible - before Petraeus had even spoken!}}}}

~~~~~~

BTW, the Predator CARRIES a missile, it is not one.

Duh.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

There they go again. The left is apoplectic because Petraus couldn’t say, in answer to questions from Sen. Warner, that success in Iraq will make America safer. So what? Who cares?

As the general noted, he hadn’t even thought about that so it couldn’t be that important of a question. I mean just because we are losing 80 US troops a month on average doesn’t mean that we have to somehow justify that with some tangible national interest. Hell, these guys volunteered to die when we ask them to, justifiably or not.

If we want to win the war on terror we have to get beyond this whole notion that our efforts should be rational. The only way to fight irrational maniacs is to BE irrational maniacs. Fight fire with fire, I say.

I think we ought to strap some bombs on these guys and run them into open markets in Tehran. Will it make us safer? Who knows and who cares?

Good patriotic Americans don’t care about being safer they just want to win even if it kills every last one of us.

RWNJIFG

By AmVet

September 12, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Bosch, to me, Pakistan represents two things.

One, that dealing with the current world geo-political situation is a real b!tch with no easy answers. It seems our friends are our enemies and vice versa.

Two, the current leadership in the US has demonstrated that they cannot possibly deal effectively with the vast percentage of these problems and are in fact exacerbating them.

One day, this country is going to wake up and see that the underlying problem that no one will discuss is……….drum roll please………Israel. Or rather our heavy-handed, one-sided almost exclusively support of her. And thus her and our relationship with the Mooslims.

Until and unless we can get a non-Republican back in office who will work relentlessly to make some of those problems abate, like Carter and Clinton did, we are never going to see real progress in this inanely named “war on terror”.

By Hey Duh

September 12, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

googled it

nothing came back

making it up?

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

AmVet, I totally agree with you on that. But to say anything about Israel, automatically labels you (gasp) an anti-Semite, just ask Jimmy- and having the name that I do, sometimes that puts me in a vicarious position.

I could say something to that effect, and with my family background, people would attack me as a neo-Nazi - sigh -

And with the friends being our enemy comment - here’s a question for you - We are spending millions/billions to support Pakistani’s army, and the Sunni’s too? I wonder how long it will be before they turn against us? I know, Paul, it takes alot to maintain these weapons, that’s not my point, I mean in general, we are spending so much money to arm these people and helping them create an army from scratch - how long will it be before they are shooting at us?

The Sunnis were shooting at us until they decided to shoot at al-Qaeda, so if al-Qaeda makes a deal with them, what’s to keep them from turning the gun around again?

By Dodgin the Bullet

September 12, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Bosch- I siincerely doubt that Petraeus has any better idea of the big picture either. His boots are not on the ground but remain unscuffed behind many successive layers of protection. What he knows he reads, just as we do. How then is he a better judge of conditions on the ground in Iraq than an infantry man who really does have his boots planted firmly in Iraqi soil?

That infantryman may not be privvy to information that in the current administration has mostly proven to be fabricated and spun anyway, but he/she most certainly interacts with the people on the streets of Iraq each and every day; something the general has never done!!!

I’ll let up on Petraeus when he stops allowing himself to be used as a propoganda tool, thereby demeaning the integrity and honor of all men and women in uniform!!!

By Paul

September 12, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Hey Paul 10:46

I think the 2006 election results reflected Republican electorate disgust as anything.

Re: your data request: my point was to show many people agree with nice-sounding statements (interesting that they’re always portrayed as “liberal” positions) but when it comes down to affecting their pocketbook, or consumer choice, they become very… nonliberal. A data example is Sen Kennedy and the windmills. Ever tried to spot one of those five miles offshore. It’s tough. But he (and other Dems/Reps) who are all for liberal environmental action don’t want the view obstructed from the family compound.

Another example, one I’ve raised before: Education. Many will agree with a “liberal” pronouncement of equal access for All kids. Fine. Now the details. One can make the case it doesn’t operate under the current system. So ask, “do away with property-taxed based education support. Make it Federal, change curriculum goals, teacher standards, teacher assignment to whatever district, buildings, supplies, equipment to the Federal level. Give the kid in south New Orleans the same quality facilities, teachers, etc. as the kids in Speaker Pelosi’s Knob Hill section.”

Suddenly the “liberals” become archconservatives (no change), protecting the education priviliges for their kids.

Bosch 10:48

A 40-year old Vietnam model with draftees doesn’t apply today. More later, if you want.

N-GA

I really, really hope it’s because much of America is just sick and tired of all the emphasis on candidate’s lives and families. Maybe many Americans look at the difficulties and identify with them, with their own families.

BTW - my wife will still be my trophy wife - even when she’s 90.

I’m out the door - pleasant week, all.

By AmVet

September 12, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

To me, the OPINION of any soldier, sailor, marine or airmen is only slightly more significant that any other person in this nation.

Yes, in many case, they are obviously more informed as to the actual situation that is in front of them. And that certainly counts for something.

But for every member of the armed forces you can find who is pro this that or the other you can find another GI who is anti this that or the other.

Besides, it is my experience that people who have not served usually have many romantic, idealized and unrealistic notions about everything from the Pentagon, to the generals to the grunts.

The reality is that most guys are just doing their jobs and don’t dwell on what some guy way up the ladder says is best. They just do what they are told if they want to stay in good standing.

And in some cases, they are extremely busy just keeping their heads down so they don’t get them blown off.

And I am not equating myself to the men who stormed those cliffs overlooking Omaha Beach or those mountains on Iwo Jima, who I have always contended that we owe EVERYTHING to. But yes, virtually all of us who have worn the uniform and sworn to defend this nation, consider ourselves a band of brothers.

Just go the VA Hospital on Clairmont to see it.

By Hey Bosch

September 12, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

”’The Sunnis were shooting at us until they decided to shoot at al-Qaeda, so if al-Qaeda makes a deal with them, what’s to keep them from turning the gun around again? “”“

Which al-Qaeda?

Central? In Iraq?

[Fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq is the last big argument for keeping U.S. troops in the country. But the military’s estimation of the threat is alarmingly wrong.](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0710.tilghman.htm

By Political Foreskin

September 12, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

No, no, Gen Patraeus sounds like the time Truman stopped a certain general from threatening to nuke china. Of course Patraeus is censored, W is following the Truman lead. “Say what I tell you to say or your fired. We dont nuke china”.

History repeats it’s lunch. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat their lunch. And that’s sad.

By getalife

September 12, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

duh,

Google it again.

There is a shoulder fired missile called the predator you freakin idiot.

Hellfire missile is attached to the predator drone.

For a warmonger, you don’t know squat about weapons.

Again, read something before you spew moron.

By Hey Paul

September 12, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

FACTS AND DATA

Not what YOU have prevoiusly stated.

FACTS AND DATA

By getalife

September 12, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Betrayus blew this one

Nuff said.

Geez.

By Hey Bosch

September 12, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

That link it too important to let go.

[Fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq is the last big argument for keeping U.S. troops in the country. But the military’s estimation of the threat is alarmingly wrong.](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0710.tilghman.htm]

ALSO

HEY EVERYONE

Two of Seven Soldiers Who Wrote ‘NYT’ Op-Ed Die in Iraq

A third has been seriously wounded.

GOD BLESS THESE MEN AND THEIR FAMILIES.

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul, Yes, I’m sure it doesn’t, it was just an example, but yes, that was 40 years ago, and things change, there’s no need to speculate.

Nice point about nice comments - I think everyone WANTS to do the right thing, but when it comes right down to it, well that’s another matter.

Like the Orwell quote from yesterday “So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot. “

Dodgin and AmVet - thanks for your comments, I wore uniforms in my day, but not a military one, not even a Boy Scout one, so that’s just something I know nothing about.

But Dodgin, I think, probably the general has indeed been an infantryman before - he probably knows a little about combat - or else he wouldn’t be there (let’s hope anyway, right?)

By Doom is his own Lord and personal savior

September 12, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Doom hearby renounces Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior and herby proclaims that Doom himself is his own Lord and Savior.

Doom

By Dubya

September 12, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

A few words of wisdom for the rancid Republiscum masses out there who still don’t get it. Why do you Bush lovers imagine we have some right to force “our way of life” down the throats of other cultures and nations? Good ol’ Murcuh has its own internal moral messes when obesity is an epidemic, health insurance companies are making record profits, millions of Murcun citizens have no health care, businesses are leaving the U.S. to set up shop where there are no regulations & workers are exploited. Why would you vermin wonder why OBL has hated Murcuh since his wealthy childhood? His comment sums up the ignorance, arrogance and vanity of the U.S. which, multiplied by the climate of hate created by the Bushies, is responsibe for today’s global hatred of the U.S.
God bless Murcuh!

By getalife

September 12, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

“When former CIA officer Ray McGovern made the vocal suggestion — during a technical delay to fix Gen. David Petraeus’ microphone — that the witness be sworn in, McGovern was forced to leave the hearing room.”

The Moveon ad they whined about was dead right.

By Goldie

September 12, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

{{The only way to fight irrational maniacs is to BE irrational maniacs. Fight fire with fire, I say.}}

Nut Job @ 10:50— you certainly have your fingers on the “pulse” of Neo-con thinking in America these days… I believe Bush squeaked by in the 2004 elections because so many people believed that it was all about killing Arabs and Asians, no matter which country they happened to live in. “Kill the Iraqis, Kill the Afghanis!” — what the heck’s the difference, right?

By Hey Everybody

September 12, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Judge the MoveOn ad and its data for yourselves

By Hey Goldie

September 12, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

I believe Bush squeaked by in 2004 [because](http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/wasthe2004electionstolen]

By Gary

September 12, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

AmVet: Good insight and comments on your 11:10 post. Tired of hearing about “heroes” and know-nothing, professional “patriots” here. I entered combat 38 days shy of my 17th birthday. Lied to join up, was Gung Ho, volunteered for combat. Grew up in a hurry. Served w guys I learned to love and with guys who were a disgrace to mankind. No Mai Lais over there? Hundreds of Mai Lais. Maybe thousands. Guys would start it, then everyone joined in, like it or not. Everybody watching everybody else, to make sure you fired in the right direction, lest you get it in the back by your own.Yes, I took part to save my own life and hated it. Never imagined I or anyone else could match up to the guys in WW II. No real comparison there. 5 years of military never gave me any desire to join any Vet groups. Most of my acquaintences have no idea I ever served, unless they pointedly ask. Good friends know. That’s it. “Win” in Vietnam? Be serious. We’d still be occupying every hut and still be getting slaughtered by the unknown enemy. How stupid people are in this country. WW II? Most people on this blog have no concept of it or anything connected to its history.

By Hey Goldie

September 12, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

me and links today! just damn!

[Because] (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/wasthe2004electionstolen)

By Hey Goldie

September 12, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

To hell with the link

it’s the Robert Kennedy Jr Rolling Stone Piece on shenanigans in Ohio in 04.

worth looking up and reading

By Joe

September 12, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Draft General Petraeus for Repbulican presidential race 2008. Petraeus - Huckabee would be a winner!

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Wow Doom - is that really you? That’s quite a stretch from yesterday.

Hey Goldie!

By OIL OIL OIL

September 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

On C-Span’s Washington Journal yesterday, Rep. Christopher Shays has a rare Republican moment of non-talking point candor. When asked by a caller why we are still in Iraq, Shays admits it’s because we just can’t let any other country control that oil.

By Steve

September 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

DOOM at 11:30. You may just be on to something important. Keep on talking.

By Hey Joe

September 12, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

are you trying that act at amateur night at the punchline?

By Steve stupidly attempts to mock Doom

September 12, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Keep talking Steve. Doom will nail your a$$ to the cross.

Bosch,

Doom was diplaying his powers of mind control yesterday by falsely testifying about the fictitious Lord and Savior and you took the bait. All hail the power of Doom!

Doom

By Goldie

September 12, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Hey @ 12:31— yes, I know the link and I’ve read the RFK, Jr. article in Rolling Stone… Ohio was certainly a big mess in ‘04. Almost as bad as FLA in 2000!

By Want your vote to count??

September 12, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Voter Purging: A Legal Way for Republicans to Swing Elections?

By Don't let him betray us

September 12, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Petraeus: The Paris Hilton of Generals….. Like Hilton, Petraeus is a vain media darling with almost no credibility.

By Bosch

September 12, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Doom, Aw,you are far superior to me. You got me! :-)

So how’s your day going Doom? I hope it’s not too “doomy” shall we say.

By IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO EVERYONE ON THIS BLOG

September 12, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Doom was ID jacked by getalife yesterday and today at 11:30 and 1:06. This is the type of homo activity that will catapult him to the 1# spot on Doom’s most hated list. He should be banned from this blog because of his cowardice and treachery. getalife doesn’t know how to be a real man, because he’s too busy trying to sleep with them.

I hope that that there isn’t anyone here who is stupid enough to consort with such a diseased person.

By Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior

September 12, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Do not fall for the treachery at 1:06. That’s getalife doing the only thing he knows how. He can’t defeat Doom head on so he makes blaphemous remarks to stir up trouble. Any comment against Jesus isn’t from me.

Doom

By Jim Jones is my Lord and Savior

September 12, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

I left out that I believed that Jim Jones was my Lord and Savior. Doom lived in Jonestown in the 1970’s and drank the koolaid that fateful evening as Father requested. Unfortunately Doom received a weak dosage and was unable to follow my brothers into paradise.

Don’t worry though, Doom has a cup of cyanide koolaid potion sitting readily in the refrigerator.

Doom

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 12, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Gary September 12, 2007 12:40 PM No Mai Lais over there? Hundreds of Mai Lais. Maybe thousands. Guys would start it, then everyone joined in, like it or not. Everybody watching everybody else, to make sure you fired in the right direction, lest you get it in the back by your own.Yes, I took part to save my own life and hated it.}}}}

What a lying, filthy POS.

And if this degenerate did participate in the slaughter of innocent humans and wasn’t enough of a man to step forward and stop it, then his own post labels him as human excrement no better than Adolf Hitler.

But I know it’s a bald faced lie with out a doubt and how do I know this, you ask?

Because 1) liberals are the lowest, most disgusting forms of life, even more putrid than a cockroach 2) the army of the United States of America is the finest institution in the world bar none, with the bravest, most courageous men imaginable.

GFY, gary (good for you.)

By getalife

September 12, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

doomed,

Do not blame me for being the biggest idiot to ever post on the blogoshere.

I do not play your wanking games moron.

Geez.

By Say one thing Do another

September 12, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

The right wing must immediately denounce Fred Thompson.

By Goldie

September 12, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

No wonder Bush considers Putin his “soul” brother — remember when he stated that hokey stuff about “lookin into his eyes”?

Russian president Putin dissolves government

I guess it takes a dictator to know a dictator…

By getalife is always present when Doom gets wanked

September 12, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Liar! Why don’t you fess up you punk. I know your literary moves when I see them. You’ve gotten better lately at copying me, but its no use. I’m going to continue my rage against you and let everybody here know what kind of jacka$$ you really are!

Doom

By getalife

September 12, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Hahahahaha,

You are hilarious doomed but again, it is not me.

Probably duh.

He plays those wanking games not me.

Geez.

By Hey Duh

September 12, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

What’s your temperature?

I smell smoke.

Melt Down???

QUESTION

””“”But I know it’s a bald faced lie with out a doubt and how do I know this, you ask?”“”“”

ANSWER

Cause I have a penthouse condo with bars and pads overlooking all of la-la land!

You toooooo funny!

But you’re getting DULL

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By Doom's List will be released on Monday-September 17th!

September 12, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION EVERYRONE:

The much anticipated Doom’s list will be released on Monday Sep.17,2007. Mark you calendars to find out who made the top 5 on Doom’s most hated and most loved lists.

By raisedanidiot

September 12, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

doom - you are doomed to a life of ignorance I’m afraid…freakin’ homophobe! Nobody cares about your stupid third grade hate list…pick an issue or go blog elsewhere!

By raisedanidiot wants to be on Doom's list

September 12, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot,

Unfortunately, the top spot on the hated list is already taken. Keep trying though,worm, and I can promise you, you will rank pretty high.

Doom

By Doom's List Leaked

September 12, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Most Hated Duh Duh Duh Duh Duh

Most Loved No Duh No Duh No Duh No Duh No Duh

By Duh stands for democrats must be kicking a$$ on this blog

September 12, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Duh,

If I were you, I’d keep an eye out for getalife. Doom thinks he has the hots for you. You must be kicking some serious a$$ to draw so much attention.

Doom

By getalife

September 12, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

doomed love list includes:

Craig.

Foley.

Haggard.

Gannon.

Vitter for the diapers.

Geez.

By So NOW he makes plans!

September 12, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Is Petraeus’ Drawdown Part Of The White House’s 2008 Political Strategy?

at 100 kids per month…..

apparently not too high a price to pay to retain the white house

By Deep Thoughts

September 12, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Don’t you think that if the war in Iraq was making us safer over here the good general would have trumpeted that fact?

So the I don’t know probably means NO

By raisedanidiot

September 12, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

SNHMP @2:50 - quote from link… “In July, Rove spoke at the Aspen Ideas Festival and reportedly stated, “Iraq may not be a big issue in the next election because…troops will be coming home by then.”

That little bald-headed warlock can see the future! That explains so much…mental note to self, get crucifix to ward of further neo-con magic.

By Its no use, getalife. The list is coming

September 12, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

getalife,

When Doom releases the list Monday, I’m going to reveal what I really think about you. I may perhaps create a survey to get other people’s opinion as to who is the biggest a*******wipe on this blog?

Doom

By Enquiring Minds

September 12, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Doom,

What time can we expect the announcement?

We all want to be right here to see it!

By getalife

September 12, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

“who is the biggest as-swipe on this blog?

Doom”

I agree.

By Doom's List-Coming Monday September 17,2007

September 12, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

IN CASE ANYONE MISSED IT:

Doom will be releasing his most hated and most loved lists on Monday-Sept 17. The top 5 individuals on this blog will be identified within their relevant categories. Your placement will be with respect to your relationship with Doom.

Ask yourself this question: “Have I been nice to Doom?”

By Is the "beard" a "beard"

September 12, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Researcher: Bin Laden’s beard is real, video is not

By Gary

September 12, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

DUH: Come see me some time, inferior insect. Surely AJC can arrange that and they already have my permission. Now, back under your hiding-rock, patriotic hero.

By Denali

September 12, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Gary is, of course, correct. You neocon tyrash don’t read books and are terrified of truth and history. Always been that way.

On the subject of your continuing ignorance re Vietnam, note the following: The man who destroyed and then rebuilt Japan, the supreme expert on Asia, upon his death bed, dying from pneumonia, summoned LBG to his hospital bedside. Repeatedly BEGGED LBJ to send no more troops to Vietnam. “You cannot possibly win. What IS there to win? An agrarian nation that knows not and wants nothing of democracy? Have you not studied the French and Dien Bien Phu? For every enemy you kill five more will rise up. They have a never-ending supply of bodies to conscript. Get out now, while there is still time.” [sic]

Read books, you ignorant b*******!

By Robin

September 12, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Hey there Duh. I sincerely hope that one day Gary gets his hands on you and your ilk. You best pray to whatever pig god your worship that it never happens. What a low-life you are.

By Can Rush get any stupider?

September 12, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Rush Limbaugh on Tom Lantos

By AmVet

September 12, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Gary, pay no attention to the troll. He has been universally repudiated and discredited countless times on any number of subjects. I’m sure you can tell that he comes down squarely on the side of reason and the search for truth.

Bosch, there was a great article in today’s AJC about how little sense it made for America to remain so steadfastly intransigent about still coddling Israel to our own detriment.

And how ANYONE who points out the misdeeds committed by that nation, such as ex-President Carter, are automatically considered Nazis by the neo-cons.

Never mind her illegal land grabs, Berlin-like walls in Arab lands or starting yet another extremely ill-advised war against Lebanon this past year.

The author though was probably an anti-Semite. His last name was Cohen.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 12, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Gary September 12, 2007 4:21 PM DUH: Come see me some time, inferior insect. Surely AJC can arrange that and they already have my permission. Now, back under your hiding-rock, patriotic hero.}}}}

No problem pops, I’ll be sure to bring some women and children along for you to slaughter, just like the good old days it will be.

I tell you what, POS, why don’t you GFY (good for you?)

You be sure to stop by, we’ll see if we can’t even up the score for those Vietnamese villagers that your coward as-s “hated” to massacre.

By raisedanidiot

September 12, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Amvet - I’ve always been confused as to why we hold Israel like a diamond in our pocket. I’ve always held Jimmy in high esteem and so much more since I read his new book…but am still not understanding the sanctity surrounding the Israel thingie…what’s your take?

By N-GA

September 12, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot,

You may want to read “The Israeli Lobby”, a book by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt. It basically describes how US government officials are in the pocket of Israel. Of course these authors have been condemned by the Zionists.

BTW, it is important to distinguish between “Jews”, “Israelis”, and “Zionists”.

A Jew is someone whose religious faith is Judaism.

An Israeli is a citizen of Israel. He/she could be Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc.

A Zionist is a Jew who believes in the right to have a Jewish state (Israel). Not all Jews believe this to be true.

I hope you find this interesting, and don’t feel that I’m talking down to you…it is certainly not my intent.

By AmVet

September 12, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

If you like reading Carter, go out right now and get The Blood Of Abraham. He wrote it in 1985 and it is, hands down, one of the very best books ever written on the situation in the Middle East.

IMHO, the original reasons for America supporting Israel were valid. She was the only democracy in a land surrounded by tyrants.

Also, this is just an opinion here, but I think the belief in the sanctity of Judeo-Christian belief rings so strong for many for American Christians coupled with their almost open hatred for Islam, plays into this. RELIGION.

By raisedanidiot

September 12, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Hey, thanks guys…NGa & Amvet…I’ll try to pick those up…I usually only read what comes through my store by fate, but occasionally I must indulge in retail…

Amvet - “Also, this is just an opinion here, but I think the belief in the sanctity of Judeo-Christian belief rings so strong for many for American Christians coupled with their almost open hatred for Islam, plays into this. RELIGION.”

that’s about what I’m coming up with too…all tracks back to the evils or religion…if Jesus had been of the line of Ishmael we would have all had different lives…things that make you go hmmmm.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 12, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Look at Harry Reid, ankle biting a 4 Star General over war strategy, now the POS is attacking a 9/11 widow, My God, have you libs no shame?

{{{{Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowed on Wednesday to block former Solicitor General Theodore Olson from becoming attorney general if President George W. Bush nominates him to replace Alberto Gonzales.}}}}

What a bunch of political goonies you are, cowards.

By raisedanidiot

September 12, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

AP - “I call on the Senate Republicans to not walk lockstep as they have with the president for years in this war. It’s time to change. It’s the president’s war. At this point it also appears clear it’s also the Senate Republicans’ war,” Reid told a Capitol Hill news conference.”

Go Harry..Go Harry…Harry, Harry, He’s Our Man!

By Ned

September 12, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Here we have DUH. Another Repub tough guy filled with failure, bitterness, hatred. Never been anywhere, done anything, seen anything of life. Just his own inadequacies and dysfunctions. And this snowflake is gonna beat the hell outta someone. Here’s hoping Gary or another gutty soul takes Duh out and beats the living poop outta the spineless SOB. This is the kinda greasy punk who put Americans in Vietnam and Iraq to do dirtywork while hiding under his bed sputtering spit. Freak.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 12, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Hehehehe:

{{{{WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — A new analysis of peer-reviewed literature reveals that more than 500 scientists have published evidence refuting at least one element of current man-made global warming scares. More than 300 of the scientists found evidence that 1) a natural moderate 1,500-year climate cycle has produced more than a dozen global warmings similar to ours since the last Ice Age and/or that 2) our Modern Warming is linked strongly to variations in the sun’s irradiance. “This data and the list of scientists make a mockery of recent claims that a scientific consensus blames humans as the primary cause of global temperature increases since 1850,” said Hudson Institute Senior Fellow Dennis Avery.}}}}

Ehehehehe.

By @@

September 12, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

This can accompany Paul’s 10:29. There is no such thing as a “progressive”…..just clueless liberals.

Don’t say you weren’t warned.

Teasury ‘pockets extra £10bn’ from green taxes

(((Billions of pounds are being raised in green taxes with little or no reward for environmentally-friendly consumers, according to two new studies.)))

(((Each British family is paying £400 more in green taxes than it would cost to cover its carbon footprint, according to the TaxPayers’ Alliance.)))

(((And a poll by YouGov for the group showed that nearly two-thirds of people think politicians are using the green issue as an excuse to pull in more cash.)))

(((A separate study revealed that the Government gives back in tax breaks just two per cent of the money it collects through environmental taxes.)))

Howzabout we just reinstate the “blue laws”…stay home on Sundays and spend more time with our families. That would put a big dent in our fuel consumption and a world of hurt on ME oil suppliers.

By Pete

September 12, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Duh. I have no doubts that Gary and the other guys forced into those circumstances would have a lot rather killed you and your cowardly kind. Rightly so.

By Hey Duh

September 13, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

Do you try to be stupid?

Posting global warming denial bunk from the Hudson Institute?

{{{{The Hudson Institute is a non-profit think tank headquartered in Washington D.C. While describing itself as “non-partisan” and preferring to portray itself as independently “contrarian” rather than as a conservative think tank, the Hudson Institute gains financial support from many of the foundations and corporations that have bankrolled the conservative movement. The Capital Research Center, a conservative group that seeks to rank non-profits and documents their funding, allocates Hudson as a 7 on its ideological spectrum with 8 being “Free Market Right” and 1 “Radical Left.”}}}}}

These folks are funded by Richard Melon Scaife for gods sakes!!!!

• Other funders are:
• Ag Processing Inc • American Crop Protection Association • American Cyanamid • Archer Daniels Midland • Cargill • Ciba-Geigy • ConAgra Foods • Conrad Black • CropLife International • DowElanco • DuPont • Eli Lilly and Company • Exxon Mobil • Fannie Mae • General Electric Fund • Heinz • IBM • Lilly Endowment • McDonald’s • Merck • Microsoft • Monsanto • National Agricultural Chemical Association • Nichols-Dezenhall Communications Management Group • Novartis • PayPal • PhRMA • PriceWaterhouseCoopers • Procter & Gamble • Sunkist Growers • Syngenta Crop Protection • United Agri Products • Westfield Corporation

Staff includes(or has included)

Norman Podhertz Alexander Haig Robert Bork Frank Luntz Scooter Libby

As for Dennis Avery:

{{{He is the originator of a misleading claim that organic foods are more dangerous than foods sprayed with chemical pesticides.}}}

Avery and Singer: Unstoppable hot air

What next Duh?

Quoting Tinky Winky on gay issues?

Maybe Captain America speaks on National Security?

Tommy Flanagan on Truth in Government?

Goober!

By La La La Liar

September 13, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

Reyes: McConnell Lied When He Claimed New FISA Law Stopped Terrorist Attack

DNI McConnell: I Lied To The Senate

By Doom's List-Coming this Monday Sept. 17,2007

September 13, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

The stakes are high. The names are being tabulated. The moment of truth is rapidly approaching. All of your comments to the power of Doom will come to a head this Monday.

Who has been Doom’s friend? Who has been his enemy? The world will soon find out.

By Political Foreskin

September 13, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Osama has been reading my blogs. he put one on english language ewe-tube. I rule the world from my keyboard.

Osama referenced my actual words. Read a translation from the ewe-tube broadcast: ” First, let me demand the conversion of George W Bush to Islam effective noon tomorrow. Jesus was okay, but you hide behind him. We stand beside Mohammed! No infidel can stand beside us with mohammed. Secondly, What is wrong with you all? Give Brittany Spears a break! She’s an infidel! She’s an infidel!! At long last have you no sense of decency?

But I digress. Look, it’s Islam or war, your choice. See? We give you a choice the same way pregnant american woman (yeti scum) give their feti (also scum) a choice. I personally hope you choose war, cause I hate no good, dirty infidel scum, and I love good clean killin’ of what I hate.

Now I know what you’re all thinkin’. Did I send four planes or five? Well, in all the brewhaha that W caused in Iraq, I kinda lost track myself. So you yeti scum must ask yourself one question, “Do I feel lucky……well do you, infidels?”

Some news: I have finally deciphered all of the coded messages in the Vagina Monologues. It seems that one mandatory anatomy class in high school or college would save every marriage in america, and convince latent homosexuals to strap on a suicide vest once they get a load of a lifetime of tookus….ew. (sorry).

Anyway, Infidels, STFU!!

Remember, I Hate you more, Jinx, no vice versas, no changies, no backs. Simon says, mother may I, and how many homeruns did babe ruth hit? None of you know, you’re yeti scum!

sign, the Real St. Pete, OBL

PS: did I mention the part where you convert to Islam or it’s war. Okay, new rule.

By getalife

September 13, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Use your brain and move this thread to the scab cartoon thread to avoid the delay.

Geez.

By George

September 13, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Doom - Who Cares!

Duh - WHO CARES!

By Goldie

September 13, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

DEAR WEBMASTER— can we get a new Luckovich thread today? This one’s entirely too slow now and bogged down with way too much high school blog-doody…

By George needs to use a question mark!

September 13, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

George,

When asking a question, one must insert a question mark. You are a pathetic idiot and you have nothing of value to add to this blog! You wouldn’t be related to getalife by any chance would you?

Doom

By Doom is leaving the building-Don't forget Doom's List that is coming soon

September 13, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

The Friends of Doom. The Enemies of Doom. Who are they? Where are they?

There is going to be a major shake up on this blog on Monday 17, 2007.

By Gonna Love 08

September 13, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

I is for Idiot:

” now the POS is attacking a 9/11 widow”

When Ann Coulter did the same you praised her, shows how dumb you really are. Goes to show as long as it is the GOP it is allright, all the other americans in your mind are traitors. Are you out of thorzine???

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Adm. Fallon apparently called Petraus a butt kissing chickensh*t.

Shouldn’t the President disassocite himself from and denounce the organization that promoted a person who would question the integrity of Petraus to such a high level? It seems to me that the President ought to denounce the military and stop making appearances at their functions.

RWNJIFG

By raisedanidiot

September 13, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

AP -“McCain, who is traversing Iowa in bus festooned with a “No Surrender” banner, argues that the U.S. military is succeeding in Iraq and should continue its mission. He plans to take his bus tour to two other early voting states, New Hampshire and South Carolina, later this week.”

Could George be setting McCain up?…you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours?…things that make you go hmmmmm

By AmVet

September 13, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

I must admit that I have made a misjudgment. Some time ago I predicted that the President’s approval ratings might well drop below 25%, but the latest numbers paint a different story. Turns out the remaining faithful are keeping the faith.

Good luck with that.

{Ahead of a national address on the war in Iraq, Americans remain deeply skeptical about the policies President Bush is pursuing and unhappy with his job performance, according to a CNN poll released Thursday.}

{The president’s approval rating in the survey was 36 percent — unchanged from an August poll and barely above where it was in January.}

{At the same time, 61 percent of those polled disapprove of Bush’s performance in office — and the same number said they believe his policies are taking the country in the wrong direction.}

{Thursday’s poll found more Americans believe Democratic leaders would move the country in the right direction than would Bush.}

{Fifty percent of those surveyed expressed support for the Democrats, while 34 percent expressed confidence in Bush.}

{The war remains widely unpopular among Americans.}

Only 16 months left.

By Dubya

September 13, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Shhh. Hush now. Our fearless Leader speaks this very night. He, in His righteousness, will speak to “My Fellow Murcuns.” Of “Thee Ewenited States of Murcuh.” He will utilize his experiences as Thee Deecider, thee military hero, thee swaggeing HS & college tough cheerleader. (He doth swagger ‘cause He’s bowlegged.) He will tell of His time confined to a Houston halfway house in his 30’s, and other success stories that led Him to thee Presidency. We will be enraptured by His personal story of “Tales Of Thee Bottle.” He will pray for us - even as He preys upon us. His God is great. God bless Murcuh!

By WTF?

September 13, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

You’re a nutjob alright. Those on the right don’t accept anonymous sources as truth. Dumbazz libs do it everyday.

[[And you though the Moveon.Org ad was something. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. There is no hole so deep that the modern left considers it unnecessary to keep digging. In other words, the demonization of David Petraeus has just begun.]]

[[The lefties at the Daily Kos and Think Progress are both giving a lot of play to the following quote that Admiral William Fallon allegedly (much more on that in a bit) made about his underling David Petraeus during their first meeting in Baghdad last March. The Daily Kos and Think Progress report Fallon called Petraeus “an a*-kissing little chicken-sh*t.”]]

[[I know what you’re thinking. For reputable outfits like the Daily Kos and Think Progress to report such an incendiary comment, the remark must be impeccably sourced. Well…]]

[[The original report of the comment, the scoop if you will, came in something called the “Inter Press Service News Agency,” or “IPS” as the organization bills itself. What? You’ve never heard of this IPS and find yourself curious about who and what it is? IPS describes itself this way on its website: “IPS, civil society’s leading news agency, is an independent voice from the South and for development, delving into globalisation for the stories underneath. Another communication is possible.”]]

[[IPS got the story from “Pentagon sources familiar with reports of the meeting.” Mind you, IPS didn’t just use just anonymous Pentagon source who might have seen the exchange. IPS relied on sources who not only didn’t witness the exchange, but didn’t even talk to people who witnessed the exchange. They were just “familiar with reports of the meeting.” Allegedly.]]

When libs aren’t suckers they just suck.

By Steve

September 13, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

WOW, Dubya, just WOW! I’ll sure be watching tonite. We cannot afford to miss such historic occasions as this mighty man provides. My lunch is going down at this moment; it will be coming back up tonite. Thanks for the reminder.

By raisedanidiot

September 13, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

WTF - So What the Fck?! I don’t need moveon, kos or anybody else for that matter to tell me how bad this administration sucks…you see, I have this uncanny ability to read, listen, think and discern…you might try it yourself some time.

By Truthman

September 13, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

In today’s Vent:

A man with a degree from Yale, an MBA from Harvard and who can fly a F-102 jet fighter is called an idiot by millions of Americans. Imagine how educated and talented they must be.

Where do we start to combat the mendacity of that statement?

Bush only got into Yale because of his “diddy.”

“Attended Phillips Academy prep school at Andover, then Yale from 1964 until 1968 and graduated with a major in history; played baseball during freshman year and rugby during junior and senior years; became a member of the super-secret Skull and Bones society, following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather; later attended Harvard and earned a Masters of Business Administration in 1975. Bush was such a mediocre student that the dean of students at Andover was pessimistic about his chances of getting into Yale. They suggested that he have a backup option. Harvard Business school was a backup option that he had to take advantage of after the University of Texas law school turned him down. Harvard alums say the admissions process was somewhat mysterious. One of Bush’s Harvard classmates was a circus barker.

Fall 1970: George W. applies to University of Texas Law School and is rejected.

May 27, 1968 George W. enlists in the 147th Fighter Group with the Texas Air National Guard. When asked why he wanted to enlist George replied, “I want to be a fighter pilot because my father was.” His unit was referred to as the “Champagne Unit” because it included the sons of future Senator Lloyd Bentsen and Governor John Connally.

The Chimperor is nothing more than a Chickenhawk/traitor/murdering dunderhead!!

Vote Kucinich!! He’ll deal with Bush’s “Gang of Four!”

By WTF?

September 13, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

You ain’t got sh!t idiot. You’re a sucker fish just like nutjob. A moveon kos (keep on stupid) bottom feeder.

[[By Right-wing nut job in full glory September 13, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this]]

[[Adm. Fallon apparently called Petraus a butt kissing chickensh*t.]]

apparently 1. Visibly.

An idiot.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

WTF?

Oh, I’m sorry, I’m sure that the truth is that they agree on everything and they probably had a circle jerk instead of an argument and that these people just made it up.

In any event, shouldn’t the President disassocite himself from and denounce the organization that promoted a person who WON’T DENY that he questioned the integrity of Petreaus to such a high level? It seems to me that the President ought to denounce the military and stop making appearances at their functions until Fallon denies that he said such a thing.

RWNJIFG

By raisedanidiot

September 13, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

“WASHINGTON — President Bush is set to ask the country for more time to let success bloom in Iraq even as the assassination of a Sunni sheik who revolted against al-Qaida sent a chilling reminder of the instability there.”

And I’M called an idiot?!

I’m ready to march people!…ready your picket signs…I’m throwing out my bra while I’m at it…why the hell not…the whole damn world’s gone mad!

By Hey WTF

September 13, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Holy crap! You must be Mrs. Duh!

Or the other Mr., No biggie.

You posts are SOOOOOOO informative!

You pass on SOOOOOO much data!

You give us SOOOOO many facts!

That’s what comes of deeply inhaling the noxious fumes of Faux Media.

You SOOOOO funny!

All you got is fear.

Afraid of MoveON, Kos, Think Progress

Afraid of liberals

Afraid of REAL republicans

Afraid I suspect, of your shadow.

Liberals may suck, but buddy YOU BLOW

By George

September 13, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

No Doom, just leave the f’en building and don’t come back. Noone cares about your list. Are you related to Duh by any chance? Seams like all the Ds stand for delusional on this blog.

By WTF?

September 13, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

You must be talking about the moveon ad.

I don’t want the democrats to disassociate themselves from that radical hate group. Having their noses jammed so far up that group’s azz only serves the other party and that’s the way I like it.

[[Oh, I’m sorry, I’m sure that the truth is that they agree on everything and they probably had a circle jerk instead of an argument and that these people just made it up.]]

These people need a name so that it can be confirmed that they were present to hear the statement.

Any nutjob (that’s you) should know (obviously you don’t) that there has always been a degree of healthy competition within the different branches of the armed services.

To assume that those exact words were spoken in healthy competition without varifiable confirmation makes you a less than a nutjob, a moron, or an embecile.

A nematode perhaps.

By Doom has a third nipple

September 13, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Milk me baby.

Doom

By Hey WTF

September 13, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Disassociate?

HELL NO

Move On, as was discussed at lentgh yesterday is MAIN STREAM

You are FAR RIGHT

READ

Can you find one policy supported by move on that the majority of Americans don’t support?

I think not.

You are so consumed with hate and fear that BRAVE and FREE Americans who believe in the constitution seem “left” to you.

It’s perspective, numbnutz.

YOU ARE FAILING.

YOUR MOVEMENT IS FAILING.

If you don’t stand for the American people and this nation…..MOVE.

Immigrate to some facist nation.

Cause WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET YOU TURN OUR COUNTRY INTO A EMPIRE.

By Truthman

September 13, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

This is our “ally” who was killed in Anbar Porvince today.

As usual, Bush chooses his fellow crooks to trumpet the “successes of Iraq.

From Time Magazine:

Sheikh Sattar, whose tribe is notorious for highway banditry, is also building a personal militia, loyal not to the Iraqi government but only to him. Other tribes — even those who want no truck with terrorists — complain they are being forced to kowtow to him. Those who refuse risk being branded as friends of al-Qaeda and tossed in jail, or worse. In Baghdad, government delight at the Anbar Front’s impact on al-Qaeda is tempered by concern that the Marines have unwittingly turned Sheikh Sattar into a warlord who will turn the province into his personal fiefdom.

“If you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas!!!”

By Open mouth, Insert foot

September 13, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Why Boehner’s “Small Price” Troop Deaths Comment Matters

By WEBMASTER

September 13, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Goldie September 13, 2007 10:20 AM DEAR WEBMASTER— can we get a new Luckovich thread today? This one’s entirely too slow now and bogged down with way too much high school blog-doody…}}}}

Dear Golduh: There is another thread, duh, make note of how the smartest poster we have here figured it out on his own, duh:

By Duh stands for Democrats September 13, 2007 10:48 AM “Withdrawing,” eh?

Duh Management.

By MomCat

September 13, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

By raisedanidiot September 13, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this “WASHINGTON — President Bush is set to ask the country for more time to let success bloom in Iraq even as the

Success also continues to ‘bloom’ with the economy (sarc). Oh, but we need not worry! The economy’s BOOMING!! Any moron should be able to make a house payment, buy groceries, make insurance payments and pay medical bills on a $7.50 hr. job at the local fast food joint. Forget those pesky kids. They don’t need health insurance!! What sorry parents for getting themselves laid off from their job(s)! So what if their job went across the world where big corporations can hire for nothing! Big corporations gotta make a profit!!! The country is indeed crazy! Just Bloomin!!!

By getalife has ID wanked Doom at 12:53

September 13, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

George,

Oh how wrong you are. Tne entire AJC blog universe is waiting in great anticipation to find out who’s been naughty or nice to Doom. I am continually pulling together all the names that will appear on both lists.

By mm

September 13, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

[Send the wingnuts home. They’re gonna hate 08].(http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/13/warner.virginia/index.html)

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

To paraphrase Ali when Howard Cosell stated to him that he was being ‘trunculant’: “If ‘nematode’ is right-wing, then I’m that!”

I just come from the Hannity school of ‘logic’ that says that everything that anyone says or does who you you associate with reflects on you. That is why he begins every interview with “so and so says ‘X’, don’t you think he is a traitor and should be killed?” “No? So you support treason?” I don’t see why that ‘logic’ shouldn’t apply both ways.

BTW: I agree that journalists need 100% solid evidence that is sourced with named persons prior to printing things in a newspaper. I’m just glad that we hold journalists to a higher standard when putting out news then we hold a President to when deciding to go to war. I mean if you held Bush to the same standard as IPS news we’d never have had such a wonderful war.
I’m glad that we went to war based on information that we had no idea where it came from or if the person who made the claims had a history of lying or mental illness or addiction and I’m also glad that we weren’t told that we had a source high up in the Iraqi government who had denied (Naji Sabri, look it up) that there were any WMD’s prior to the war. I mean just because an aide to Saddam says it we shouldn’t take his word for it over a drunk from Germany called “Curveball” who had been previously caught in numerous lies. Most important in all of this is that we didn’t need to know. Of course, the opposite is true about Fallon’s alleged statements: we should believe its a lie until proven otherwise. I’m glad we wingers hold newspapers to higher standards than Presidents. Its just the right thing to do.

RWNJIFG

By Doom sees a Clinton/Obama Ticket rapidly approaching

September 13, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

It will be interesting to see what happens to this country when the democrats take over the White house. Doom is independent, but he does caution against immoral policies in the name of progressiveness.

By WTF?

September 13, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

I’m glad the dems like moderate Warner. He’s pro-business and in favor of restricting voters rights.

A guy even a conservative could love.

By RWNJIFG is a coward

September 13, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Doom thought that getalife was a loser but you take the cake. You’re to cowardly to state your political positions and face criticism, so you hide behind sarcasm to get your point across.

The only thing that Doom hasn’t figured out about you is where do you fit in on my upcoming list.

By doom wouldn't know a progressive if he/she slapped him in the azz

September 13, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

FYI - homophobes are not classified as “progressives”

By Monday September 17,2007

September 13, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Doom will release his ‘Friends of Doom’ and his ‘Enemies of Doom’ lists. The top 5 finalists on this blog will appear in order with regard to how they have respected the power of Doom. Now is the time to be Doom’s friend if you want to make the cut.

Ask yourself these important questions: Have I respected the power of Doom. Have I been his friend? Where will he place me? What will happen to my capacity for posting here as a result?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

WTF:

The libs just like Warner because he is a stupid traitor like they are. They think that that “are we safer because of our policy in Iraq?” question that Petreaus couldn’t answer was a good question as if our security was a prerequisite for sending troops to war. Damn, the libs are dumb. They don’t understand that we can justify the deaths of our troops even if our policy doesn’t make us safer or even if it makes us less safe.

Hell, the libs like Ron Paul who is the most conservative guy in the race, just because he abandoned the pro-war, who the hell cares what the exit strategy is, approach to foreign policy that has been the hallmark of Republican policy for the last 6 years.

RWNJIFG

By Gonna Love 08

September 13, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Here is something for all you GOP war mongers.

IRAQ had has much to do with September 11th as Mexico? So all those who believe we should stay and fight are to stupid to realize we shouldnt be there in the first place…

By WTF?

September 13, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Helllll yea! Bring this guy Warner on. He’s a DINO.

Limit social payments to immigrants; support English

Fiscal conservatism: taxpayer money is sacred.

Increase penalties for illegal drugs.

Require character education in public schools.

Promote public school competition & choice.

No school prayer amendment.

Mandatory arrest upon evidence of domestic violence.

UN participation & economic aid only when within US interest.

Supports NAFTA, GATT, and WTO.

Supports line-item veto.

Protect sportsmen’s rights & the Second Amendment.

Get every “eligible” child health care.

Cut taxes for Virginians.

Fight Internet pornography.

On Hezbollah soldier abductions: “Stands with Israel”.

Require work to receive welfare benefits.

Supports a fair death penalty.

By Doom is doomed

September 13, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Doom is as much of a whack job as Duh. Maybe they can get a blog together and spend the rest of their days insulting each other and leave the rest of the blogosphere alone.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Yes most wingers are secretly cowards, like me. That’s why we talk tough and send people to war and then find ways out for ourselves. Good observation.

Now would you like to go to war? We’ve got this great war going on in Iraq that we must win or we’re all gonna die. So what do you say, are you in?

I’d come along, but I have “other priorties” mainly I’m writing a book about Dick Cheney’s “other priorities” during Vietnam which led him to file for all those deferments, so I just haven’t the time.

BTW: while you hit the nail on the head about the coward thing, sarcasm isn’t cowardly, its funny. It illustrates the absurdity of an opinion by extending it to its logical end. The results are that: 1) the proponent of the opinion gets p**, 2) he responds with as dumb a response as the one being made light of, or 3) others who may not be sure which side they are on can read it and get some insight as to the stupidity of the people on that side of the issue or 4) maybe the proponent cleans up his act so that he isn’t such an easy target. In any event, I think sarcasm can be very healthy for a debate especially among people who aren’t really looking to advance their own knowledge or to explore other points of view but merely seek to show how their fellow countryman are less brave or patriotic than themselves. Of course, I sincerly believe everything I type here so I don’t know why you think I’m being sacastic when I’m just being:

RWNJIFG

P.S. You are an idiot. Sarcasm?

By Hey WTF

September 13, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Glad to see you moving away from the dark side.

By raisedanidiot

September 13, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

In the midst of our troops’ bloodiest summer yet, our fearless leaders are shamelessly decieving the American public once again in order to gain support for this ungodly war…

“According to the Washington Post, Petraeus and the Pentagon are using a bizarre formula for measuring violence in the country. For example, deaths by car bombs don’t count. And assassinations count only if you’re shot in the back of the head—not in the front.”

UNFCKNBLVABLE!!!!

By Roger

September 13, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Contdown time. Just 4 hours till we hear from the Goon from the Moon. Praise the Lord.

By Political Foreskin

September 13, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Bush will speak to the nation tonite. He will say, “I wish to take this opportunity to announce the withdrawal of an entire brigade of US troops from Iraq. (3500 men).”

He will expect everyone to think mission accomplished and speak about all the great things that have happened because of the surge. I expect everyone to applaud politely when he comes to obvious pauses. If even one of you throws a rotten egg or tomato at the president during his speech, you will be banned from any more news conferences. Turn your damn cellphones off when the prez speaks too.

This message will self destruct in five seconds.

By time for the truth

September 13, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

So the rabid snivelling aborted foreskin pukes up his leftist bollocks on the resident demoNcrat scribbler Luckob itch’s blog! What a jolly suprise!

Even more repulsive leftistblowjobinfullglory vermin spewing treasonous venom through its pathetic attempt at satire. This aborted scum has wittingly earned his rightful place along side the poofer bwarney fwank, DUI Kennedy, HiTllary, Barack the big eared magic negro, and the arkansas rapist!!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

time for the truth:

That was the sort of thoughtful, measured, intelligent, fact-driven diatribe that I expect from my fellow wingers. Good show!

BTW: the one area that you may have been slightly conclusory (stating an opinion without any discernable factual foundation for those who are stupid, not you of course, but the libs may read this) was in the area of your description of something which was treasonous. Can you explain what exactly you read here that was treasonous. I’m sure, given the extraordinary intelligence that you displayed, that the omission was unintended. So please, take this opportunity to elucidate on that point. I patiently await the brilliant rhetoric that is clearly your trademark.

RWNJIFG

By Political Foreskin

September 13, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

No really, I happen to have a copy of the prez’s speech. Here’s a copy: “My fellow Americans, and Laura, it pleases me to announce that we will begin to withdraw our troops from Iraq. Also, I want to suggest to all americans that they leave Brittany Spears alone. She’s a human! She’s going through a tough time and you keep wanting more, more, and MORE! Why? WHY? Leave her alone!! “

It’s a great speech so please tune into the broadcast, which will be on 1789 megahertz in the FM dial, that’s 200 pegamixels in AM.

The president will be giving a quiz following his speech so pay attention. Anyone getting less than 70% correct on the quiz will be drafted and sent to Iraq. I have the answers if anyone is worried: Yes, no, yes, internetz, nookyoolar, hummer, and barney.

By By popular demand: Doom's List

September 13, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER:

Doom will unveil his list of individuals on this blog who are his friends and enemies on Monday September 17,2007. There will be two lists ranking them from 1 to 5 in desending order. Now is the time to be Doom’s friend.

By Political Foreskin

September 13, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

The guest cartoons have been excellent! Very funny! Most enjoyable to read them over coffee in the morning.

Great job, people!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Allow me to ingratiate myself:

First, GFY. No one cares about who you think your imaginary blog friends are and nor could anyone care less about what you think or why about anyone or anything.

Again GFY.

Sorry, more sarcasm, and I know you hate that.

RWNJIFG

By RWNJIFG is gay

September 13, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Doom understands your pain loser. Because you have no life and are sexually repressed, you want to take your frustration out on Doom.

I understand.

By @@

September 13, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

Oh chit! Did Obama really use up all his time during the Petraeus hearing bashing Bush and Hillary?

He ran out of time but quickly asked the same question Sunnunu had already asked. It should have been embarrassing when Crocker’s response was this…

“Senator, I described for Senator Sununu a little bit ago some of the things that I think are going to be very important as we move ahead,” Mr. Crocker said.

Mr. Obama asked him to repeat the answer, drawing an objection from a clock-watching Mr. Biden, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee hearing the testimony.

Obama not only has a short attention span, he’s too arrogant to admit that he WASN’T PAYING ATTENTION. He was too busy campaigning.

Unbelievable. This man should NOT receive the party nomination.

All blow, no show.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 13, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this

My goodness, there is nothing more refreshing then eating dinner with a bunch of bummed out Hillary supporters.

Memorable quotes:

1) She is so stupid.

2) If she can’t go for more than a few months without grubbing for Chinese campaign money, what will be the next scandal?

3) How long you reckon since Billy and her did the nasty? (Actually that was mine.)

4) Obama’s not that bad.

5) I already have a hard enough time paying for my health insurance, why would I want to pay for the health insurance of 20 million Mexicans?

6) I doubt if she’ll get the nomination and if she does, it will be total humiliation for her in November.

7) Oh the coat tails, my God, the coat tails.

Cheers!

By @@, are you ready for my list to come out? It will be fun!

September 13, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

@@,

You’ve been hiding yourself. You left Doom to face all of these idiot democrats by himself.

You will be on my upcoming ‘Friends of Doom’list. The friends and enemies list will be revealed on Monday Sept 17,2007.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

September 13, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Your hopeful suggestions about my orientation notwithstanding the answer is no, I will not use you like a sex object just to get high on your list. As I said before, I don’t care about your list at all and I certainly would not be part of your homo-erotic fantasies just to get high on your pecking order. Frankly, I think the suggestion that you be sexually gratified by a member of the same sex in exchange for consideration ruins the legitimacy of your list. My suggestion is that Doom go to some gay porn sites, get out your frustrations and then complete your list without all of these sexual distractions getting in the way of your judgment. Further, I will help begin your list.

Most hated by Doom:

1) RWNJIFG

Only nine more to go. Good luck and please no more solicitations for gay sex. It’s really kind of creepy.

RWNJIFG

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 14, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

{{{{“This is a very dangerous world. It’s an era of terror, and fixing this problem will not be easy,” said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) at a briefing held by the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday. “We can see in regions there is now al Qaeda … there will surely be an umbrella group in Europe and possibly [a group] here,” she said, noting that “car bombings and suicide bombings are likely to be in our future.”}}}}

Doesn’t it figure, a woman democrat from California telling us we might as well get used to being suicide bombed? Why is that Jane, cause there are no real men left in government anymore?

Whatever happened to the notion that government would provide for our common defense, you know, the whole reason it was created in the first place?

And haven’t we come so far in the democrat party, from Kennedy reminding our enemies that we will do whatever it takes to defend America to this freaking woman Harmon, with Al Qaeda listening, advising us to stick our heads between our legs and kiss our as-ses goodbye?

F her.

This is the whole reason that we cannot allow these liberal democrats near the White House, who needs Rose Garden press conferences announcing how good the fire fighter’s radios worked at the neighborhood school bombing, too bad about those thousand kids, we’ll try to be more nicer to Iran.

You libs may have issues with George W Bush but at least he let the terrorists know that there are real consequences to bombing innocent Americans, that being two Middle Eastern countries swarming with soldiers of the U. S. army.

Listen up, Islamic Psychos: This POS woman does not speak for me or for America.

Dear Pakistan: One school bombing, one blown up church, one apartment laying in ruins, the very next day you will be a suburb of India.

Gracious Friends of Saudi Arabia: Send anymore suicide squads our way, we will have a very special treat for you- Imagine if you will, the entire Israeli Defense Force, complete with American strategic airpower, frolicking through your palaces and setting up their camps in Mecca and Medinah.

One dead American child, whole dead Middle Eastern country.

Deal?

By Hey Duh

September 14, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

If you go to the other thread you’ll see Andy Dull Duh in two more personalities.

Webmaster and Fred Flinstone

I posted,

See what I mean?

Keep the pressure on Andy Dull Duh and he fades away until he thinks he can safely slink back in morphed to Fred Flinstone!

Hey, DUH, that’s pre pre pre pre 9/11 thinking!

What’s wrong with you?????

I’m traveling today, so it’s up to the rest of you To challenge all his BS today.

If it comes from DUH and ITS SOUNDS LIKE BS, ITS PROBABLY BS

So Challenge it!

KEEP UP THE PRESSURE

Schoolyard bullies never can handle it.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 14, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this

Atlanta Journal Constitution together in it’s partnership with Al Qaeda is pleased to announce another successful operation against America and it’s apostates in Iraq: {{{{Bomb silences voice that defied al-Qaida- By Moni Basu- The Atlanta Urinal-Constitution}}}}

You the bombing, we’ll do the front page propaganda.

Buddy.

~~~~~

{{{{Duh- Experts: Give more study to climate change- A government-wide climate research program started five years ago by the Bush administration has been plagued by delays and (((((has not devoted enough resources)))))) to studying the effects of climate change, Duh Urinal}}}}

Give more money, huh?

More money from whom, may I ask?

Will al-Gore donate the profits from his scare movie to help save the planet, or does he need that cash to pay his exorbitant electrical bills?

John Edwards, put your money where your mouth is, hahahahahahaha, yeah right.

democrats: Telling you how to live based on their hysterical junk science and sticking you with the bill for it.

While they live like King Tut.

~~~~~~

{{{{THE FIGHT FOR IRAQ: Anti-war events start with ‘die-in’ Washington —- A week of events meant to crank up a national demonstration against the Iraq war is set to begin Saturday, with a 1,000-person “die-in” at the U.S. Capitol ((((led by current and former American troops)))))- Duh Urinal}}}}

Bull$$$$.

Bald faced liars, there won’t even BE ANY TROOPS AT this childish tantrum, unless of course you count the ones taunting you coward liberals and protecting the Monuments on the Mall.

Isn’t it rather enlightening the lengths that these pinkos will go to scheme and plot their propaganda that gets printed in this democrat party mouthpiece?

~~~~~~

Remember Queen Pinko cheerfully announcing the end of human civilization when the bird flu scare was still fresh and new, and, of course, was urging us to spend billions of tax dollars?:

{{{{In all, they identified 32 clear-cut changes in influenza viruses that differentiated a human H5N1 strain from that in birds, yet none of the viral samples from humans had more than two of those changes. “We think they need to get to 13 [mutations] to be truly dangerous,” Finkelstein told Reuters. He characterized his finding as “reassuring.”}}}}

Gee, another liberal junk science scare pandemic outed as completely

By @@

September 14, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this

Doom:

(((@@,

You’ve been hiding yourself. You left Doom to face all of these idiot democrats by himself.)))

Not hiding, school started back Monday, so I’m working.

You require no help from me or anyone else in handling the liberals here. I enjoy your modus operandi. It playfully gets your point across and you serve as an aggravation for some.

What could be better?

I’ll check in around lunchtime. My Fridays are half days. Limited posting though due to the delay on this site.

By Mike

September 14, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Wow! What surprise! All of the AJC’s “favorite entries” in the cartoon contest espouse liberal views!

At least the AJC staff was honest for once.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 14, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Anybody with half of a brain knows that I only post as “Duh is for democrat” and if I choose to mock Golduh using “Webmaster” you will see many “duhs” sprinkled throughout the comments to identify myself, but seeing how court jester “Hey Duh” doesn’t have half a brain, that POS thinks I’m Fred Flinstone.

Wrong again, dullard.

I, however, can understand completely your mistake, considering the impact my brilliance would have a such a mentally stunted dolt like yourself, you must feel like I’m everywhere.

Shake them bells, fool.

By Political Foreskin

September 14, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

There there, @@

@@’s a teacher? Small children should not be exposed to you, @@, and I’m going to file a complaint about your unseemly, unprofessional behavior on this blog. I think the Cobb County Board of Education should read the hate you spew and the vitriole that must be dripping on those innocent children. Sorry, blogs are one thing, but the future of america is another.

BTW: Dont try to blog a bunch of mother goose and try to fool the investigation into your truancy-baiting ways. Be who you are for once in your confused little life.

‘muff said. @@ is the enemy of our children’s future. She wants to bring up haters. Well, there’s no room in America for haters.

Join the new republican party. We’re too reformed to hate. vote NewLuvPubs in 08.

Paid for by the committee to reelect anyone but a democrat. Vote the republuvcan party in ‘08

By Political Foreskin

September 14, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

So you think you can toon?

A review of today’s entrees.

Hampton’s Dr. Strangelove entry was so close to being a homerun that it deserves a close look. One more twist to update the saga would have put this one over the top. Next time sleep on the idea, and trust me, a new angle will emerge. You had a great approach, one nobody else thought of, and that’s your strength. Remember, originality is 99% of entertainment, because we want to go down laugh tracks we’ve never been down before. Take us there, sir.

Bolt’s home depot entry was great. The formula of a customer complaint desk works well. Once again, however, one more twist is needed to send this one into the finals. But the drawings are first rate. You could do this, sir.

Robert and Diane’s moon-peach entry is simply funny. In this case, you both went too far. Why mortgage payments? That’s one added twist that just interferes with the visual. Perhaps a chart showing the various stages of hip hop evolution, and this moon-peach guy is the third suspect on the left…..

…and notice how the RIGHT’S bloggers criticized the moon-peach cartoon as leftist, when it’s clearly conservative humor. This is why I say that Luchovich goes over the head of most readers and bloggers.

Very few of us get it. At least very few of those who blog get it. The level of comprehension is stupifyingly low on this blog. It must mean that the same nitwit is posting with dozens of aliases. What are the odds that two or more wonders-of-modern-science stumbled randomly upon the same blog?

But overall, these cartoons are amazingly professional and funny!

By Political Foreskin cannot deal with a real woman like @@

September 14, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Doom’s list is fast approaching. The names are currently being tabulated.

Mark your calendars for the upcoming list showing the friends of Doom and the enemies of Doom.

By The Real Truth

September 14, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

New York Times September 14, 2007 Pg. 21

Now here’s the thing: Ray L. Hunt, the chief executive and president of Hunt Oil, is a close political ally of Mr. Bush. More than that, Mr. Hunt is a member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, a key oversight body.

Some commentators have expressed surprise at the fact that a businessman with very close ties to the White House is undermining U.S. policy. But that isn’t all that surprising, given this administration’s history. Remember, Halliburton was still signing business deals with Iran years after Mr. Bush declared Iran a member of the “axis of evil.”

No, what’s interesting about this deal is the fact that Mr. Hunt, thanks to his policy position, is presumably as well-informed about the actual state of affairs in Iraq as anyone in the business world can be. By putting his money into a deal with the Kurds, despite Baghdad’s disapproval, he’s essentially betting that the Iraqi government — which hasn’t met a single one of the major benchmarks Mr. Bush laid out in January — won’t get its act together. Indeed, he’s effectively betting against the survival of Iraq as a nation in any meaningful sense of the term.

The smart money, then, knows that the surge has failed, that the war is lost, and that Iraq is going the way of Yugoslavia. And I suspect that most people in the Bush administration — maybe even Mr. Bush himself — know this, too.

By rushncap

September 14, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Foreskin — @@ claims to teach special needs kids. I don’t think one can do much to mess up teaching how to tie shoelaces. Of course the fact that she is not teaching possible future leaders of America (unless the next little W is in her class) is very comforting.

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see NE Patriots head coach, Bill Belichick’s non-apology for the “mistake” of cheating during last Sunday’s game.

ALL he kept saying was that it was in the past and he was moving on.

No contrition. No admissions. Nada.

The guy should look into an opening in the Bush White House. He’d fit in perfectly.

By Ralph

September 14, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Bush. You just want to reach into your TV set, grab the miserable little SOB by the throat, pull him thru the screen, and drag him off, screaming, into the night.

By NRA wins Cops Lose

September 14, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

A Miami police officer was shot and killed yesterday by a thug who was pulled over and got out of the car and shot four police officers with an AK-47 and was wearing body armour. The Federal Assault Weapons ban expired two years ago and Dubya and his minions feel the NRA rates higher than the public and our police officers saftey. I hope all you gun nuts are real proud today….

By 007

September 14, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

The likes of the weakling DUH is incapable of actually insulting anyone. However, this week he/she/it has attemped to insult a few extraordinary people here. DUH obviously does not realize that for anyone really interested it is not at all difficult to track down entrees on these blogs. DUH should pray to Allah he does not offend the wrong person.

By Dusty

September 14, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Oh, play time at the Luckovich blog. I think most of you have been playing with lead painted toys for many years.

Since @@ is a professional teacher for mentally disabled children, maybe she could take on a class of adults like most of the bloggers here. Yikes!! What a bunch!!

Noooo…. I wouldn’t wish that on @@. She is doing a fine job with a compassionate heart for children; sweet innocent children. I wouldn’t wish the likes of this crowd into any class she might teach.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 14, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{By 007 September 14, 2007 1:08 PM DUH obviously does not realize that for anyone really interested it is not at all difficult to track down entrees on these blogs.}}}}

Oh isn’t that sweet, a little love letter from the cowards.

Isn’t it just so typical of a liberal democrat to express a desire to kill a fellow American over some inconsequential, menial political discussion on a blog, while they actively attempt to flee from the Islamic Terrorists who have actually done and are seeking to do more harm to the citizens of the United States?

And will the Atlanta Journal Constitution “enforce” their user’s agreement by ridding the blog of such a person that would threaten another blogger’s life, or will they wait for some Conservative who they disagree with to inflict their wrath upon?

Have no doubts about the Duh man’s safety, unlike the common pinko, he is aware of the real dangers in the world, and that doesn’t include global warming.

And with that knowledge he has sufficiently, uh, “armed” himself.

By Gonna Love 08

September 14, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

I is for Idiot,

As usual you take normal comments and try to make a conspiracy out of them. I read 007 quotes and i didnt get that he was after you. Besides we cant get into the institution you are in unless you add us to the visitors list…..

By Doom sees hope for Dusty

September 14, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty’s kind words for @@ at 1:18 may earn her a place on Doom’s most loved list. Maybe Dusty and Doom can get to know each other a little better and see if there is any chemistry.

Doom

By Gonna Love 08

September 14, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Thats all this country needs, more inbreeding…..

By Gonna Love 08 is a homo

September 14, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Doom wonders why Gonna Love 08 is going to love the year 2008. Is it because your gay lover is coming home? It is a safe prediction that Gonna Love 08 has just earned a spot on Doom’s most hated list.

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

The film “In the Shadow of the Moon” reunites 10 Apollo astronauts as they share their memories and emotions of reaching a destination never before visited by man.

The film features interviews with the astronauts and never-before-seen footage from NASA’s vaults. It won the World Cinema Audience Award for Documentary at Sundance.

The story of the Apollo space program begins in May 1961, with President Kennedy’s challenge in a speech to Congress: “I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth.”

From 1968 to 1972, the men of Apollo met Kennedy’s challenge during a time when America was in a Cold War with the Soviet Union and the space program faced fierce competition from Moscow.

“The genius of Kennedy was to understand that a project like this would act as a rallying point for the nation and would also be a fantastic way of demonstrating to the world the value of American life,” said film director David Sington.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/11/astronaut.movie/index.html

Remember when we had a leader who was considered a genius? Now we have to settle for a numbskull.

By Bill

September 14, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Duh and Dusthead. Don’t see where anyone even remotely “threatened” either of you sissies. The truth and fact of 007’s comment are just that: truth and fact. The additionasl fact that Duh has soiled 20 or so diapers because of it does not alter: truth and fact. Tell us ALL, Duh, as you hide behind your roach-infested screen, what vast experiences have you indulged in which make you such a tough, tough, tough little boy? What? Oh. Well maybe just ONE little bitty experience? Like when another backward child took your Ken doll away for a moment. Hey Duh and Dustbrain: it’s Friday. Slip into those ball caps, gangsta togs, flipflops. Be a real…guy. C’mon, tell us some combat stories from the tough streets of life. Pleeeeze! There, that’s it - think of some more tough words you can vomit forth on this little blog. Just 2 “little wee-wee” guys.

Chills run up and down my spine - just thinking of your brand of toughness.

By Aubrey

September 14, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

It’s lame…as usual.

By Doomed

September 14, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Doom

Does you Mother know that you are using the computer again?

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 14, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bill September 14, 2007 3:08 PM Tell us ALL, Duh, as you hide behind your roach-infested screen, what vast experiences have you indulged in which make you such a tough, tough, tough little boy?}}}}

I stomped a liberal to within an inch of his life one time, had fun too, as I remember it.

Since this is blog confession day, how about if you tell us all how you became a liberal hero?

Making threats on people’s lives from the safety of an anonymous political blog, like you did today?

Gosh, how frightening.

By I SUPPORT DUH & DUSTMITE

September 14, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

OHH WHYY? WHYY? WHYY DO YOU ALL PICK ON DUH & DUSTMITE?? WHYY? MY GODD! THEY’RE HUMANN! LEAVE EM ALONE! LEAVE EM ALONE! FOR THE LOVE OF GODD, LEAVE OUR BELOVED DUH AND DUSTMITE ALONE! WHYY??? (sobbing)

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 14, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Bill September 14, 2007 3:08 PM Tell us ALL, Duh, as you hide behind your roach-infested screen, what vast experiences have you indulged in which make you such a tough, tough, tough little boy?}}}}

I loved a liberal’s 8 inches of manhood one time, had fun too, as I remember it.

Since this is blog confession day, how about if you tell us all how you became a liberal stud?

Making verbal foreplay with other boys from the safety of an anonymous political blog, like you did today?

Gosh, how exciting.

By 006.9

September 14, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

“Threats on lives”? Where? When? How? Would anyone use this silly blog to actually threaten someone? You just…do it. You don’t announce it. Poor Duh is so scared that he’s fouled his panties again and again. There, there, Duh. You’re just confused as usual and throwing out all kinds of names that could, well, make you unhappy. The more you talk the deeper you dig into your own huge hole nature gave you. You are always completely outclassed, yet you continue on. It’s quite hysterical to observe. Go get em, you bold and brazen ruffian you.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 14, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats September 14, 2007 3:59 PM I loved a liberal’s 8 inches of manhood one time, had fun too, as I remember it.}}}}

Couldn’t think of any brave acts your whole life long, eh?

Not even spray painting slogans on the side of government buildings?

What a coward you must be.

{{{{This reader’s boyfriend spends a lot of time in gay chat rooms talking sex talk with other gay men. Is he cheating or does he just need more fantasy to improve his sex life?}}}}

Your little gay posts are like confessions of your soul.

When I go to kicking your as-s and making you look the fool, which is usually my reply to your first post, you always go right to the gay thing.

It occupies a lot of your thoughts don’t it?

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

As usual, to find the “conservatives” just follow the dirty money.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — The former head of an oil field service company admitted Thursday in court that he bribed three Alaska legislators, including the son of a U.S. senator who is the target of a federal investigation.

Former VECO Corp. CEO Bill Allen, 70, testified Thursday in the federal corruption trial of former state House Speaker Pete Kott. Allen and a former company vice president, Rick Smith, have pleaded guilty to bribing lawmakers, and await sentencing.

Allen said he bribed Kott, former state Senate President Ben Stevens and former Rep. Vic Kohring, but he did not elaborate during 15 minutes of testimony.

http://newsmax.com/insidecover/pipeline_bribe/2007/09/13/32492.html

By Gonna Love 08

September 14, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Doom, I’m gonna love 08 because the idiot will be voted out of office and someone smarter than a 5 year old will take charge. I notice that instead of a smart comeback you resort to calling people homos and f*. I am neither but i tolerate them and even you. So try another comeback if you want to get me riled. Oops i see it is after 3 so school is out and you dont have access to a computer……

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 14, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 14, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats September 14, 2007 3:59 PM I loved a liberal’s 8 inches of manhood one time, had fun too, as I remember it.}}}}

Couldn’t think of any sex acts your whole life long, eh?

Not even tapping shoess on the side of government officials’ bathroom stalls?

What a prude you must be.

{{{{This reader’s boyfriend spends a lot of time in gay chat rooms talking sex talk with other gay men. Is he cheating or does he just need more fantasy to improve his sex life?}}}}

Your little gay posts touch my soul.

When I go to licking your as-s and making you look tremble, which is usually my reply to your flirting, we always go right to the gay thing.

I occupy a lot of your thoughts don’t I?

By getalife

September 14, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Bill Richardson: “Something Is Wrong When The Patriots Face Stiffer Penalties For Spying…Than Cheney And Bush”

Shame.

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Uh oh. Looks like we may have another Bill Frist, albeit a larger one, in the wings.

If he had half the brain that Terry did, he would distance himself as much as humanly possible from this shameful and dysfunctional administration, as “led” by this President who couldn’t find his a-ss with both hands.

His willingness to go along with them, though, or at least have a selective memory, is going to cost him any even remote chance he ever had at the White House.

THE VILLAGES, Fla. — Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson gave no opinion Thursday when asked about efforts by President Bush and Congress to keep Terri Schiavo alive, saying he does not remember details of the right-to-die case that stirred national debate.

Thompson was asked in an interview for Bay News 9’s “Political Connections” program whether he thought Congress’ intervention to save the life of the brain-dead woman two years ago was appropriate.

“I can’t pass judgment on it. I know that good people were doing what they thought was best,” Thompson said. “That’s going back in history. I don’t remember the details of it.”

By Sailor

September 14, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

My Andi/e-duh is little freaky.

I haven’t had to buy any toilet paper since we started dating.

S/he gets mad when I won’t kiss her.

But please!

By Dusty

September 14, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Well,Bill, Sailor, and the rest of the Gang,

I see the juvenile delinquents have arrived from raiding the neighbors’ homes and the local school. They are so cute in their baggy pants, bad teeth and gum disease. Sorry you couldn’t make the dodge ball team, guys. That’s tough.

To the rest of you, have a nice weekend. See you next week. Maybe…maybe not….

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 14, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrat September 14, 2007 4:58 PM When I go to licking your as-s}}}}

Dearest Atlanta Journal Constitution: Can we consider these comments acceptable blog conduct and not worry about getting “banned” anymore?

Or does this just apply to Conservatives?

And Amvet, is this^^ the level of liberal democrat sophistication that you are always babbling about?

And by the way, for everybody else, when someone calls me gay does it say more about my sexual orientation or more about their extreme hatred of homosexuals, that they are supposed to be so “tolerant” of?

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

As is the case on the national scene, the least disciplined of the liberals are always trying to play catch up with the neo-cons in one significant area - personal attacks and sliminess.

Visit Wooten’s some time and read the filth from the deranged Englishman called time for the truth for evidence. Like Andy WAS, he clearly is in a league of his own.

The GOP and their most zealous supporters have, in my mind, always been the unquestioned master in this arena.

So now the aforementioned very poster child of AJC blogging venom and hatred, until he was castrated for his repulsive writings, complains that he is a victim.

Yet it is obvious, he has had no epiphany, nor has he probably learned one single thing from that episode.

His “improvement” is by force of threat as he is assuredly being watched very closely by those in authority.

And rightfully so.

He will never learn the humanist lesson that what you create - in this case animosity, personal attacks and hatred - are exactly what the universe is going to give back to you.

And yes, many here need to simply grow up.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 14, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet September 14, 2007 6:00 PM So now the aforementioned very poster child of AJC blogging venom and hatred, until he was castrated for his repulsive writings, complains that he is a victim.}}}}

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrat September 14, 2007 4:58 PM Dearest Atlanta Journal Constitution: Can we consider these comments acceptable blog conduct and not worry about getting “banned” anymore?}}}}

Comprehension issues again, Amvet?

Maybe if you actually read my comments instead of making haughty false assumptions, which you apparently do with all of your life decisions, you would have made note that I asked a question to clarify what was acceptable blog conduct.

What you replied with was closer to a “complaint” then my post was, your everlasting and eternal whining about me, geez, you aren’t covered with sores from it, are you?

Matter of fact, I didn’t even really ask a question, I pointed out the obvious double standard that the Atlanta Journal Constitution blogs are operated under, one set of rules for liberals, another set for Conservatives, like you’d expect anything different from a “news” paper that calls itself “unbiased.”

From the first day I posted here my name was jacked, thousands of times it happened, was anybody ever “banned” for it?

Ha.

Are they being booted now, this very day?

The most filthy posters on this blog are not me, it’s getalife and his Sailor character and any other putridity that he decides to barf up, has getalife ever been booted?

If I did any of the aforementioned conduct, became a master wanker like him, whammo, gone from here.

Now to address the “venom and hatred poster child” nonsense.

It is total surrender of your side of the debate when you cannot produce any facts to defend your position but instead call the things I say “hate speech.”

What do you think the “vast right wing conspiracy” was all about?

Hillary too stupid to defend herself, so call people haters.

And you went to school to learn this minimalistic debating skill?

You should get your money back, dullard.

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

To the crybabies and neocons,

Good luck with that impotent and self-righteous rage.

By Robin

September 14, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

You folks should really stop picking on Duh and Dusty. Don’t ruin their weekend again. The weekend is their time for sustenance. They use up all of Saturday and Sunday preparing for the next five days of blogging. It’s just not fair that you pick on them. Just not fair….

By AmVet

September 14, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

As another week draws to a close, it is important to remember that the future of the nation rests upon the shoulders of us who will do everything in our power to ensure that the neo-cons do not have another chance at ruining this nation.

And in spite of the past two presidential elections I now trust the American people to see what is evident, whether it is in Washington D.C., Omaha, Nebraska or on this blog.

The people who represent the failed and discredited neo-conservative philosophy are to be constantly exposed as dangerous to the future of this great nation and our home, earth.

They are fortunately expiring quickly now, but I, for one, will do my part to hasten their demise.

Have a great weekend all.

By Duh stands for Democrat

September 14, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile, here is what the liberals have planned for their “weekend:”

{{{{Organizers of an anti-war protest scheduled for Sept. 15 said Wednesday that the demonstration will be “unlike any other” as activists gather to demand an immediate end to the war. Wow, unlike any other! Are they going to demand that the enemy give up rather than our side?}}}}

Yeah, right.

By George

September 14, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Andy, are you that stupid or is this just an act?

By Hey Duh

September 17, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Yep, the libs DID have a great weekend!

By Blokes Awash

September 17, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Like anyone would click on a duh link and get a virus to crash their new 1500 dollar dell.

what a clod, honestly.

Duh, click on this link, I found something really good, duhhhhhh.

RETARD!!

Warning to the bloggers here: Do not click on any Duh links, or any links from any other troll moron because they are infected and infested with viruses that will damage your PC’s, Iphones and Blueballs, or is it Blackberries? dang it! I always get my internutz mixed up.

bwa

By Blokes Awash

September 17, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Memo to all bloggers here: Bush ordered Rumsfeld to attack OBL in Afghanistan during the summer of 02. Cheney belayed that order and Rumsfeld refused to obey it. That’s treason. Hitler woulda hanged the both of them, (or all three?). Ditto Sherman. Umlaut Hannibal. Colon Powell.

By getalife

September 17, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Great news, Iraq has fired Blackwater and will try them for murdering Iraqis.

Now if they do the same for w, the troops can leave that hell hole.

May I suggest moving to wingnut wooten’s occupation for oil thread due to the delay on this blog.

By Blokes Awash

September 17, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

I’m embarrassed and have to apologize for moveon.org’s “betray us” line.

First, it doesn’t make any sense. Secondly, it’s not fair that because it rhymes, that someone got credit for a “really good one”.

That’s the recipe for mediocrity, and moveon.org is now off my credibility radar.

What an embarrassment. General Patreaus, please dont betray us, belay us or betroth us, or even belabor us, belatedly, kind sir.

I hate moveon.org for cheapening the debate and turning it into a “no amnesty” shouting match like the same level of nincompoops did on the Right over aliens.

truly sorry for moveon.org. really ashamed. dont betray us, patraeus. please dont. we’re scared that patraeus will betray us.

By Stay Tuned! Doom's list is coming............

September 17, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

List of friends and enemies is on the way.

Doom

By Hey Blokes Awash

September 17, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry to have to be sorry for your being sorry about the MoveOn ad.

Especially since MoveOn has nothing to be sorry for.

Credibilty Radar? Cheapening the debate? Sounds to me like a Fox overdose.

Truth an embarrassment? Next you’ll try to tell the world that questioning the administration or its stooges makes us less patriotic than you.

Looks like it’s goober harvest time.

By Doom's List: The Enemies of Doom

September 17, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

getalife- This piece of fecal matter has been Doom’s thorn for over a year now. He does nothing but come on this blog and endorse every perverted piece of legislation that the democrats propose. His intellectual capacity is rivaled by field mice and he does absolutely nothing to further the purpose of Luckovih’s blog. Doom believes that his(getalife) own sexual perversions are at the root of his treachery and garbage. Besides being a notorious ID wanker, he usually displays a strong desire for men in politics and hates the women. There is not enough space on this blog for Doom to list every thing that is wrong with this pathetic old man. His family disowns him and we should too.

Dusty-This poor excuse of a conservative leeches off of @@ and others here. She is jealous of the attention that Midori and @@ get from Doom. Her husband constantly cheats on her and she does nothing about it, instead taking her frustrations out on Doom and others. She needs to take a hint from Prophetess Juanita Bynum and leave her husband and go out and find a life somewhere.

raisedanidiot-The name speaks for itself. This homo loving peasant has nothing else to do but to attack Doom and anyone who disagrees with her/him/it. I will waste no more time dealing with this insignificant loser.

Steve o- This brother from another planet needs to mind his own business. Every now and then he sticks his nose in my business and solicits Doom’s attention. I believe that he and getalife are in fact booty buddies.

Buy Danish and RW- Doom is responsible for these two misfits for no longer blogging. Doom whipped them so bad one day that they eventually chose to find other things to do with their worthless time. Buy Danish was 1# at one point, but Doom got rid of her so she has been demoted.

By Blokes Awash

September 17, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Please dont ANY general betray us, cause we’re all helpless little sheep who have lost our war

By Fly-on-the-wall

September 17, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Why when I see this stuff from Doom does the word “megalomaniac” come to mind?

By Doom's List: The Friends of Doom

September 17, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Midori- This lovely flower is the only reason Doom is still here. She makes every key stroke a pleasure for Doom. I haven’t heard much from her lately, probably because she is doing something most of you refuse to do: live a life! Even though she is friends with some of Doom’s enemies, she is still 1# in the book of Doom. Midori gives the most insightful positions, in spite of them swinging to the left, and is very warm hearted and sincere in her approach. Midori exudes what a real woman should be like and hopefully, Doom will meet her face to face one day.

@@-Doom once made the mistake of thinking that she was doubling as that rat Dusty, but I have since learned the error of my ways. If things don’t work out with Midori, @@ will certainly suffice for the love of Doom. It is to my understanding that @@ works with disabled children. Doom too works with children at his church, but it takes a real angel to have the patience and heart to devote one’s self to those who need help most. That is @@.

Duh stands for Democrat- Doom has never had the pleasure of exchanging ideas with Duh, but he seems to be a real cool dude. He launches his attacks on that punk getalife with almost the same fervor as Doom. My hat is off to such a warrior of the cause.

Paul- Haven’t heard from Paul lately, but he has withstood the attacks of Doom in the past without retaliation. He’s a real gentleman and deserves to be here. His kind approach to political matters and his knowledge of history is unsurpassed on this blog.

5.Bosch- Doom thought long and hard on this one, but Bosch is in fact cool. Even though Bosch is a fallen christian, he/she is honest in their beliefs. I can respect anyone who can take an objective approach to a situation without being ugly about it. Hopefully one day, Doom can spend more time with Bosch and help to guide him/her back into the light.

By getalife

September 17, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

doomed,

I support Hillary for President you freaking moron.

Your real love list includes:

By getalife cannot accept reality

September 17, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I don’t care who you support maggot! The only reason you support Hilary is because of her positon on gay marriage. You can’t wait until she’s president so you and steve-0 can get married.

What do you think of the list punk?

By Duh stands for Duh

September 17, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Check this out. Freaking sick, disgusting straight people. Whats wrong with you straights??????? Nasty, reprehensible disgusting….

From ajc.com

A Clayton County police officer was arrested Sunday for allegedly using the Internet to entice minors for sex.

Robinson said agents “discovered that Carmichael had been using the Internet to entice minors to engage in sexual activity.”

“An undercover agent, posing as a young girl, engaged in several conversations of a sexual nature with Officer Carmichael,” Robinson said.

By Feedback to Doom's List

September 17, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Doom has released his lists at 12:41 and 1:01.

I welcome all of your feedback. Who do you think is missing, what are your thoughts concerning each individual? How do you feel about making the list or not making it?

Doom

By steve-o

September 17, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Check out my response on the thread dated September 11, 2007. That thread loads a lot quicker.

By Hey Duh

September 17, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Good Boy Duh.

Stay local.

By getalife

September 17, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

It is an honor and a privelege to be #1 on doomed hate list.

Make no mistake, doomed is the biggest homophobe and moron to ever post on the blogoshere.

I think doomed deserves to be awarded the biggest idiot ever on this blog award.

By Bosch

September 17, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Doom, I’m glad you like me. I thought I was destined for the hate list. I am not a fallen Christian though, I feel I am a true Christian, I think Jesus was one cool guy, and he had alot of good things to say about life. You are right about another, thing I definitely am, is brutally honest. Maybe one day we can spend some time together and you can try and “save me” for the thousandth time and I can teach you about soccer.

By Hey Getalife

September 17, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Congrats on winning the Doomy!

By getalife

September 17, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Thank you.

Made my day.

By Duh stands for Democrats

September 17, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

All you ever need to know about Alan Greenspan’s intelligence:

{{{{When asked about his view on Hillary Clinton for president he says, “Very smart. She is probably everything that everybody says about her.}}}}

The same “woman” that claims she knows how to speak the redneck language.

All of my criticism of this man is withdrawn if he is found to have Alzheimers, which I believe could be a real distinct possibility.

By Doom hates soccer

September 17, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Stay tuned for the premier of ‘Doomsday’ on Friday Oct.5. On that day, I’ll list all of my accomplishments on this blog(such as kicking your a$$) and all of my political views.

Steve-0,

My computer takes to long to switch around, don’t have the time. What are you talking about? You and getalife’s wedding date?

Bosch,

Soccer sucks. The NFL is the way to go. The NFL and Jesus.

By Hey Duh

September 17, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Looks like the least (and I mean the very least) of our brothers has turned on Mr Money Guru!

ALERT NEO CON ALERT NEO CON ALERT

The message got out quick, Greenspan tells the truth so now find ways to slime him.

GREENSPAN SAYS WAR FOR OIL (funny ain’t it, figured it out 5 years later)

One thing you can say for that goober Duh, he can be very obedient to his masters/handlers.

Roll Over Duh!

Play Dead Duh!

It Duh-py Wuphy’s collar too tight?

I suspect Hillary could kick his a$$ with one hand tied behind her back and rollers in her hair.

By steve-o

September 17, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Since you’re too lazy to go to the other thread, here is my response to your “list”…

By steve-o

September 17, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Your list is great and I’m truly honored to be your enemy (high 5’s to getalife and raisedanidiot).

It’s also extremely hilarious and witty that you attempt to insult me and getalife by calling us “gay”. I menan, how ingenious it is to label people that you don’t like as being attracted to members of the same sex.

Let’s talk about you Doom. You continue to post drivel on here under the guise of a comic book character. You label people with whom you disagree as “homos” and then in the next post you say how much you love Jesus. A little childish, no? Methinks your sexuality may be in question. Not necessarily a question of whether you’re homo or hetero, but more of a question of whether you’re getting laid. Your profile and MO leads me to infer that you have a sex life as deprived as a Catholic priest in an all-girls school.

More importantly, your political commentary is lacking any sense of logic or clarity and views are rather obtuse.

But if there’s one positive thing about you Doom, I must say that your consistent ability to inject sophomoric humor into serious discussion has firmly established you as the Flavor Flav of this blog. Keep on clockin’ and shockin’, Doom!

By Doom's list released at 12:41 and 1:01

September 17, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

For those who missed it: Check out Doom’s list of friends and enemies.

Stay tuned for ‘Doomsday’! Coming Friday Oct.5, 2007.

By Hey Duh

September 17, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

You can come out now.

It’s dinner time.