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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2007 > August > 30 > Entry

Misleading my family

By Mike Luckovich | Thursday, August 30, 2007, 08:53 PM

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By Duh stands for Democrat

August 31, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

And the goonies attack! A minority!:

{{{{Justice inquiry targets Gonzales-Urinal Front Page}}}}

You know, I could see how these libs would be upset with Gonzales if he had actually done his job, like opening federal investigations of Dianne Feinstein and Jack Murtha for steering federal tax dollars to campaign contributors, or maybe Hillary Clinton for campaign finance fraud, but he didn’t, unbelievably.

No all that Gonzales has done wrong is to be a minority and a Republican, and all pinko bets are off.

Go ahead and call him a serial liar, stupid, he’s just like all those people are, a born felon, right?

I’ll bet all of you Mexican national are just so proud of the treatment that your countryman has gotten from the drive by lib media, for what exactly?

Hiring his own people?

Must be a racist thing, huh?

~~~~~~

Geez, and I thought Saddam Hussein didn’t have chemical weapons, imagine the surprise of finding out the United Nations was hiding them for him:

{{{{U.N. weapons inspectors discovered a potentially hazardous chemical warfare agent that was taken from an Iraqi chemical weapons facility 11 years ago and mistakenly stored in their offices in the heart of midtown Manhattan all that time, officials said Thursday.- Urinal}}}}

So Phosgene is a “potentially dangerous” chemical, one that killed thousands in WW1, and are time clocks are set to year 2007, making it “11 years ago,” instead of 6 years ago when we invaded Iraq.

Why must you parse your words and dissemble, AJC? Is this a “potentially dangerous” finding that could damage your Aesops Fable about Iraq WMD programs?

Gee, what other “potentially dangerous” chemicals got misplaced?

Gee, if the United Nations can’t keep track of Iraq’s WMD, how can we trust that they verified it’s “non existence?”

~~~~~

{{{{Craig lied in airport sex arrest-Urinal}}}}

Umm, not defending a homosexual pervert here but which would you consider to be worse:

a) Lying about a homosexual cruising for gay sex?

b) Lying about carrying a loaded gun into the chamber of the United States Senate, like Jim Webb did?

Now you tell me, which one has the AJC made a big stink about and which one have they never said squat about?

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 31, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Intentionally misleading:

Pentagon disputes assessments of Iraq- Urinal Blaring Headline

The Pentagon is against Bush’s rosy scenario, yeah!!

Well actually, read into the very first paragraph of the story, which the AJC is counting on the common dullard liberal to find to be too much of a chore and a hassle, and it says:

{{{{Stung by the bleak findings of a congressional audit of progress in Iraq, the Pentagon has asked that some of the negative assessments be revised.}}}}

Now ask yourself, if the AJC will go to such great lengths to promote their agenda, is there ANYTHING that you can trust them to give you straight?

Um, no.

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

US lawmakers’ plane under fire in Iraq

By Hey Mr Duh

August 31, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Tonight

Live on

WWAW(World Wide Agenda Wrestling)

Grudge Match

Featuring

Duh the AndyDull

against

70% of America

By @@

August 31, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Well, Gonzales did serve in the military. Gonzales grew up in a family of 10 with an alcoholic father. He stood his ground in favor of affirmative action against the President’s advisers, so what’s your problem ml?

Oops! My bad. It was because he couldn’t remember whether his grandparents entered the U.S. legally or illegally. CNN’s Ol’ Wolf Blitzkrieg just couldn’t nail him down on that one. Grrrrrrrrr!

Good luck Alberto. Everyone deserves a fair shake, but you just can’t get one with a bunch of hungry political wolves in Washington.

Go home to your wife and three sons where the love is sincere.

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Challenging the Generals

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

I wouldn’t worry too much, faithful Republicans. I’m sure the President can find another crony, I mean AG, who isn’t terribly interested in representing the people but will instead pay the appropriate fealty.

One blunder after another after another with this administration. They just keep coming.

Many would agree that Bush is absolutely killing GOP chances for any kind of real success going forward. Has a sitting president ever been run out of office, by his own political party?

The only Republican ticket that stands a chance in 08? Cheney/ ! (he won’t need no stinking Vice President!)

By LIAR LIAR

August 31, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

Oops! My bad. It was because he couldn’t remember whether his grandparents entered the U.S. legally or illegally

By Blackadder

August 31, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Good one Mike!

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 31, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Hey everybody, if the surge is going so bad, like you surrender monkey libs are bleating, why is Mookie in full retreat from the battlefield?:

{{{{BAGHDAD - Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has ordered a six-month suspension of activities by his Mahdi Army militia in order to reorganize the force, and it will no longer attack U.S. and coalition troops, aides said Wednesday.}}}}

Spin that, pinko.

~~~~~

{{{{By Hey Mr Duh August 31, 2007 8:33 AM Duh the AndyDull against 70% of America}}}}

Um, I disapprove of the democrat controlled Congress too:

{{{{PRINCETON, NJ — A new Gallup Poll finds Congress’ approval rating the lowest it has been since Gallup first tracked public opinion of Congress with this measure in 1974. Just 18% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, while 76% disapprove, according to the August 13-16, 2007, Gallup Poll.}}}}

Duh.

By Hey Mr Duh

August 31, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Whats the opposite of pinko?

Baby Blue-o?

Your bag of tricks is as empty as your skull

Don’t get your wrestling panties in a wad little man

By Hey Mr Duh

August 31, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Did you get out of Itaq the way Nugent got out of Vietnam?

{{{ As patriotic as Uncle Ted claims to be, he pulled a nasty stunt to evade Uncle Sam during the Vietnam War. In a July 15, 1990, Detroit Free Press interview, Nugent crowed about how he managed to dodge the draft. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he disavowed personal hygiene. The last ten days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and with a week to go until the physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether. When the big day came, he had been living in excrement-caked and urine-stained pants. Always the hero, however, Nugent reassured the Free Press, “But if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the Hippies in the foxholes. I would have killed everybody.”}}}

By Andy's Mom

August 31, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Oh heavens no Hey Mr Duh. In fact I’m very offended by your remarks. I try to be a very good mother to my Andy and would never neglect to change his diapers. Even after a few cans of Spaghetti-O’s.

My Andy may be a little crazy, but I keep him very clean down there. Oh dear, speaking of which……..

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

This bit about AG (Alberto Gonzales Attourney General), note the similar initials, ag, ag, that’s probably the criteria bush used to select him, and is there one person who doubts that?

The depth of W’s ignorance and shallowness is stupifying.

How can his nomination of Harriet Myers go undebated? He choose a typist/receptionist/cleaning lady for the supreme court.

How can we pretend that this county has any leadership whatsoever?

We are adrift in an imperfect maelstrom with a toy captain steering a dummy wheel.

We are at the mercy of the eddies in a hate-festering backwash of ambush, attrition, and retribution.

The war in Iraq will toss and turn unpredictably as the end game narrative grows impossibly complicated and unfixable.

World War One started out like that, with newly formed alliances forcing sober men to make cold blooded decisions.

Eyes wide open.

Eyes wide shut.

That W is one dumb muthah-f-SHUTYOURMOUTH!

Shaft! The McRoves have given this country’s the shaft!

By Hey Mr Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

””“We are adrift in an imperfect maelstrom with a toy captain steering a dummy wheel.

We are at the mercy of the eddies in a hate-festering backwash of ambush, attrition, and retribution. “”

Cool!

By Dusty

August 31, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Well,

If Diogenes were still around, I think he would find Alberto Gonzales the honest man he was searching for. THAT was the downfall of Gonzales. He was TOO honest.

When asked by Congress why Justice Department attorneys were fired, he should have said “I was following Clinton’s superb example of dumping most of them.”

Or when he honestly said he did not remember a statement made at a conference, he should have said “agreed” or “disagreed” which ever one was the best answer to please. Unfortunately, he told the truth and said he did not remember.

Now the last thing a Congressperson expects to hear is an honest answer. Their “suspect” bells go off immediately that some sort of honesty is in the room. So they hasten to rid themselves of such contamination.

When Gonzales mentioned quite honestly that some of his subordinates made decisions…Wrong! Wrong! He should have fallen to his knees crying out that no one was to blame but He!! Gonzales!! Then he should have added quite sweetly that “Now, I have found JESUS!” There would have been sobs and hugs throughout Congress.

But NO!! Gonzales told the TRUTH. Bad boy!!!

By JP

August 31, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Democrats, Republicans or Independents.

WE ARE ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS.

All this hate, yes hate, for Democrats or Republicans smacks of childish behavior.

The important thing is this country needs to move forward. But we have people who want to blame parties.

But if I recall, this country has it’s citizens actually elect people to represent us and legislate.

This country is not better off than it was prior to 9/11. This country’s standing in the world community has been lessened. This countries economy is worse. The United States has still not recovered from Katrina and the levees are still not up to snuff.

We have racism, abysmal SAT scores and families struggle for daily existence.

But yea, it’s easier to blame the democrats and republicans.

It’s time that the citizens of the USA woke up and realized that we are losing the ideals this country was founded on.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Another military contractor busted

By getalife

August 31, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Craig will resign too today.

I see a group of gop saw a little taste of war in Iraq.

They should stay to see more of what they caused and help the Iraq government.

By Hey Mr JP

August 31, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

{{It’s time that the citizens of the USA woke up and realized that we are losing the ideals this country was founded on.}}

Well said!

By Hey Mr Dusty

August 31, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

{{{f Diogenes were still around, I think he would find Alberto Gonzales the honest man he was searching for. THAT was the downfall of Gonzales. He was TOO honest.}}}}

Great Joke!

I prefer the one about the Man who walks into a bar with an alligator on a leash.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 31, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife August 31, 2007 9:40 AM Craig will resign too today.}}}}

Congratulations al-Gitmo, I see you got another homosexual run off from Congress.

I’m guessing that all of the homophobes are firmly behind you, er, backing you all the way, um, right there with you on this one.

Go git them boy!

By Liberals, Fighting The Good Anti Gay Fight, Go!

August 31, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Oh, and by the way, thank you also for making a public humiliation spectacle out of this immigrant minority Alberto Gonzales.

I mean really, if this person can’t be expected to tell the truth about hiring his own people and give all of America’s national security secrets to the democratic Inquisition, how can we trust these people to mow our lawns?

Deport!

By getalife

August 31, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

duh,

Just another family values hypocrite. It is not about being gay and you know it.

Panel Will Urge Broad Overhaul of Iraqi Police: “The recommendation is that “we should start over,” the official said.”

I agree, we should start over with our government because it is corrupt but should get out of Iraq and stop wasting lives for nothing.

By Hey Mr Duh

August 31, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

I think it would be YOUR homophobes that are cutting and running him off

McCain

Hoekstra

etc

etc

By Andi/e-duh's Closet

August 31, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Lots of naughty stuff in here. Nasty. Filthy. Unspeakably perverted and demented.

You should be very thankful s/he’s a coward.

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

I like the joke about when Diogenes walks into a chinese laundromat with a friend’s torn toga he is having mended as a favor. The chinaman says, “Euripedes?”, and Diogenes says, “No, Eumenides”.

By Hey Mr Too Long a name at 9:57

August 31, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Wow! You almost have a talent for rhetoric.

You thru in gay bashing, immigrants, racism, the inquisition…..

Now if you just knew what those things were and could understamd them. Even better, if you could just be able to trun a clever phrase!

Stick with Duh, it’ll teach you all you need to know!!

We don’t hate gays, but we might make an exception in your case.

By N-GA

August 31, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Within the past 48 hours:

Sadr has announced his militia will observe a 6-month cease-fire.

Malaki has asked all factions to stop killing.

Both of these guys could have done this months, no years ago. But they waited until there was a strong probability that the US government would be forced to begin withdrawing troops.

Is it that difficult to understand their motivation? THEY DON’T WANT US TO LEAVE!!

Let’s not believe for a second that they want us to stay because they like us. Maliki wants us to stay because if we leave, he’s a dead man! Sadr wants us to stay so that he can help defeat the Great Satan!

And both want us to stay because we are stupid enough to pour billions of soon-to-be-worthless dollars into their country, rebuilding infrastructure so that it can be bombed so that it can be rebuilt so that……

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

{{which would you consider to be worse:

a) Lying about a homosexual cruising for gay sex?

b) Lying about carrying a loaded gun into the chamber of the United States Senate?}

Most/all moral people are repulsed by a US Senator lying about soliciting sex in a public bathroom.

And to compare “the lack of media coverage” to this?!!!!!

A top aide to Sen. James Webb was charged yesterday with trying to carry a loaded pistol and extra ammunition into a Senate office building, U.S. Capitol Police said.

The staffer, Phillip Thompson, told police that the gun belonged to Webb (D-Va.), authorities said. Thompson also said he forgot that the gun was in a briefcase and meant no harm, they said.

Thompson, 44, a longtime friend of Webb’s and the senator’s executive assistant, was jailed pending an appearance today in D.C. Superior Court. He was charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possessing an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition.

READ THIS CAREFULLY ANDY:

“I don’t think he intended to harm anybody,” Schneider said. “He was quite cooperative.”

A Senate official familiar with the incident said Webb gave the gun to Thompson as Thompson drove the senator to an airport earlier in the day. When Thompson arrived at the Senate building, he forgot he was carrying the weapon, the official said.

Another source said that Webb’s gun was in a briefcase that was supposed to be dropped off at a location in Virginia before Thompson came into the District.

AND THIS:

Webb, a first-term senator and former Marine, regularly uses a gun for target practice at the National Rifle Association shooting range, the source said. Webb was an expert marksman as a Marine and once taught marksmanship using a .45-caliber handgun, the source said. It is not clear how regularly Webb carries a concealed weapon while in Virginia.

AND THIS:

During his campaign last year, Webb, an advocate of gun rights, pulled out a permit to carry a concealed weapon as a sign of his commitment to the right to bear arms.

So though a few may consider it an equally small transgression for a US Senator to try and “get some” in an airport stall, the rest of America sure doesn’t.

And so, some again refuse to grasp the concept of degrees of error; and that is remarkably telling.

Fran

By Paul

August 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

In The News 8:16

[[Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA) added her name to the list of analysts and lawmakers who are raising concerns about Gen. David Petraeus’s “conflicting loyalty” between “the desire to please the president” and to report the unvarnished truth about Bush’s strategy.]]

Rep Tauscher is an “analyst”?!!? HahahahahahahahhahahahhLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Whew… she’s a politician who can’t seem to fathom a guy who’s risen to the top (four stars) of his profession wouldn’t have the same base, self-seeking motivations as a politician.

By Dusty

August 31, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Rovespierre 10:07

That joke is pretty old. It was my Grandmother’s favorite.

By georgia 74

August 31, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

I would like to vote for a Republican, are there any who are not gay or habitual liars, please advise.

By Paul

August 31, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

In The News 8:43

[[Yingling’s article — published in the May issue of Armed Forces Journal — noted that a key role of generals is to advise policy makers and the public on the means necessary to win wars. “If the general remains silent while the statesman commits a nation to war with insufficient means,” he wrote, “he shares culpability for the results.”]]

Golly gee, would that include the generals the Dems like to trot out who criticize the Pres with their “not me” attitude?

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

U.S. Troops Given Misleading, Inaccurate Bios Of Democratic Lawmakers Visiting Iraq

WOULD THIS BE SWIFT-RAFTING?

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

My wife is going to be interviewed on the radio today (1620 AM) at 2pm on a program called “The Artful Life”.

My wife is an international artist with tens of thousands of satisfied customers. She faces the fight of her life with a returning bout of breast cancer and double radical mastectomy. She continues to create art however and will show her latest pieces at the Decor Expo (World Congress Center) in Atlanta on Sept 7, 8, and 9.

By Read Carefully

August 31, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

””“[[Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA) added her name to the list of analysts and lawmakers “”“

and lawmakers

and lawmakers

and lawmakers

and lawmakers

and lawmakers

figure it out yet?

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

THEYRE EVERYWHERE

THEYRE EVERYWHERE

{{{ Pressure continues to build for Coy Privette — a longtime crusader for statewide Baptist causes and now a Cabarrus County commissioner — to resign. The state Republican Party chairman said she has sent Privette a priority-mail letter urging him to step down. She said she plans to release the information at 5 p.m. today.

“It was my opinion that he should step down immediately,” state party Chairman Linda Daves said Thursday afternoon. “The letter said he’s dishonored and disgraced.”

…..

Prosecutors said Privette, a former state legislator, paid a Salisbury woman for sex on six separate occasions this year. The 74-year-old retired pastor pleaded guilty to six misdemeanor counts of aiding and abetting prostitution. He was sentenced to probation. Cabarrus County Republican Party Chairman Chris McCartan delivered a letter to Privette’s house Tuesday, demanding his resignation. The day before, the county GOP executive committee had voted to call for him to step down.}}}

By getalife

August 31, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Sorry to hear about your wife PF.

Here is something important on the Cancer Society

Post some of her art.

By Left Wing Nutroot In Full Hysteria

August 31, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Yea!, we got another gay man kicked out of Congress!

It just goes to show you the power of the blogosphere, those weirdo homosexuals don’t stand a chance against our united message.

We should go to work on the Clinton lezzie, I don’t like her.

And aren’t they just so creepy?

Lurking in the men’s room cruising for gay sex, just like all of those perverts in the Hartsfield Airport restrooms, you know, the ones that we are suing the City of Atlanta over, for infringing upon their civil rights?

I’m just glad all homos are Republicans, I’d hate to have to be around one all day.

Oh well, I’d like to stay and chat but I have a democrat party voter drive down at the Decatur chapter of the Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered, and then I have to testify this afternoon on behalf of the ACLU and the North American Man Boy Love Association, some parents want these guys to stop stalking their boys, but it is the Constitutional Guarantee of every middle aged guy to look at what ever he wants to.

Really!

Some people just don’t get it.

By N-GA

August 31, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Good morning,

I’m not sure who is the target of your LOLOLOLOLOL.

I don’t think Tauscher labeled herself an “analyst”. So that would leave the e-writer of this article referenced by In The News.

And it would seem that if your implication that he (Petraeus) has “the same base, self-seeking (self-serving?) motivations as a politician.” is true, then she has simply stated the obvious.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 31, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet August 31, 2007 10:09 AM READ THIS CAREFULLY ANDY: The staffer, Phillip Thompson, told police that the gun belonged to Webb (D-Va.), authorities said. Thompson also said he forgot that the gun was in a briefcase and meant no harm, they said.}}}}

READ THIS CAREFULLY HUGE:

{{{{Senator Larry Craig: ‘I Am Not Gay’}}}}

Why, he would never lie, would he? Uh, by “he” I’m talking about Webb’s aide.

Bwahahahahaha.

By Hey Mr Paul

August 31, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

whaaaat? not me attitude?

you could at least attempt to make sense

By Dusty

August 31, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Read carefully 10:24

I figured it out. Rep. Ellen Tauscher(D)is from the same state as Pelosi(D), Feinstein(D) and Boxer(D). She “backs the pack(D)” from California.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Come on Paul,

The military lies like the gop. They will be responsible for the failed occupation and will deflect blame like the gop.

The GAO report is the one to read and that Hanlon propagandist was on CNN saying it was a lie.

This is a dead giveaway that the GAO report will be correct. It makes his report a lie.

The the NIE report will verify the GAO report.

Stop buying into the same bs, you are smarter than that.

Geez.

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Cancer is a tough one, because it’s not really a death sentence anymore. You live with what it takes from you. So many of us have it or will get it, and it’s a kind of morbid lotto where you scratch a ticket to see your arbitrary destiny.

You just live on, if you’re lucky. My wife’s one of the lucky ones, believe it or not.

Survival is it’s own reward.

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

[Lie by Lie: The Mother Jones Iraq War Timeline](http://www.motherjones.com/bushwartimeline/0

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Lie by Lie: The Mother Jones Iraq War Timeline

By Paul

August 31, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Rovespierre

My good thoughts with you and your wife. No telling which way these things go. A family member goes in for the same type of surgery next week - she’d spoken with a friend who was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer, spread to her shoulder, couldn’t do anything but operate followed by chemo/radiation. Couldn’t do reconstructive surgery. That was 12 years ago. Good does come -

N-GA 10:34

Good clarification. That was from the Think Progress link where Rep Tauscher said she “added her name to a list of lawmakers and analysts.” I zeroed in on the “analyst” part - struck me as soooo incongruous - that the HahaLOL wasn’t directed at anyone. Just represented the laughter I was experiencing at the remark!

I’ve seen her interviewed several times. Strike me as being from the “I know what I believe don’t confuse me with the facts” school.

My point was not (emphasis) that Gen Petraeus is motivated by the same “values” as politicians - the point was that Rep Tauscher’s assertion of Gen Petraeus’ character struck me as the same as some cynics’ characterization of many politicians’ motivations - and the fact she doesn’t see him as a selfless individual doing what he thinks is correct is a shame.

BTW - Inthenews link at 8:43 linking to the New York Times article - it’s excellent. I’d hope many here who follow these things will take the time to read the six pages. It’s quite thought-provoking.

Mr. Hey Paul 10:37

I’ll try to clarify.

The [[Golly gee, would that include the generals the Dems like to trot out who criticize the Pres with their “not me” attitude?]] referenced the half dozen generals (Batiste, Newbold, etc) who criticized yet who came across as either not being part of the process or as part of it but unable to do anything about it. The “not me” was their portrayal that everyone else was responsible. The New York Times article addressed the issue.

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

My wife’s artwork can be seen at joybroe.com using aol or yahoo search. (google wont find it).

By Hey Mr Paul

August 31, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

””“The [[Golly gee, would that include the generals the Dems like to trot out who criticize the Pres with their “not me” attitude?]] referenced the half dozen generals (Batiste, Newbold, etc) who criticized yet who came across as either not being part of the process or as part of it but unable to do anything about it. The “not me” was their portrayal that everyone else was responsible. “”“

What did you call this kind of stuff recently

opinion masked as fact?

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

ANDY, READ THIS CAREFULLY:

ANYONE with the temerity to compare a highly decorated combat veteran who has demonstrated valor on the field of battle and who has risked his life protecting this nation with a stall-trolling “family values” Republican hypocrite is pathetic.

Will you never stop supporting the wrong side?

By getalife

August 31, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

PF,

Interesting work

Thanks.

By N-GA

August 31, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I won’t be around much today. Perhaps much later. Taking my dad to chemo in a few minutes. Then packing for getaway that my wife surprised me with last night. A weekend at the King and Prince. Doesn’t look like the weather is going to cooperate, but that matters little.

Going from the peace & quiet of the mountains to more of the same, I hope.

Bringing two bottles of wine with us - a 1998 Latour and a 2001 Montrachet. Yes, it is an occasion.

I will try to drop in briefly toward 6:00.

later…

By getalife

August 31, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

OMG, w is helping people in mortgage crisis?

What’s the catch?

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Google American Cancer Society 4 contributions.

By Paul

August 31, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Paul 11:01

“Opinion masked as fact.”

Not quite. Dems like to cite the generals who criticize the Administration? I’d kinda go with fact on that one. I don’t think they hate it.

Did the generals say they really couldn’t do anything? Yup, fact.

Did they portray others as the responsible party? Yup. Did they take any responsibility for their own actions, or lack of action? Nope.

So my //opinion// is these guys aren’t of the same caliber as a General Petraeus. Or even some captains cited in that New York Times article.

I think there’s a distinction between looking at a set of facts and forming an opinion, compared to looking at a set of opinions and forming an opinion.

By Paul

August 31, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

N-GA

Wonderful! I trust you have a wonderful time - and that your dad does well. History Channel/Aces had an episode on P-51s - thought about him.

Sounds like a great occasion - even if the weather turns you’ll still have a great time of it.

BTW - did you see my comment on the CHAPOUTIER TAVEL ROSE BEAUREVOIR and the GUIGAL TAVEL ROSE? Do you have a preference?

By Paul

August 31, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

getalife

I think Gen Petraeus has more integrity and will call it as he sees it. The problem will come when the politicians start the spinning. Then it will all be clear as mud.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Have you read his op-ed in the Post before the last election. He stated how great Iraq was going and it was a blatent lie.

Fool me once……..

Geez, talk about gullible. Then again, you are a BO fan.

Wine is for winers. Try some 42 below Vodka from New Zealand. Good stuff.

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Who to believe? Petraeus, Batiste, other generals? The President? The voice in Congress?

Having come of age, and serving during the Viet Nam era, my take is this - I have always loved, even adored, the United States. But I have also always had a reasoned and reasonable semi-distrust of BOTH the government and the Pentagon.

Both have demonstrated many reasons for me to do so during my lifetime and like getalife said, “Fool me once…”

It is odd how so many Americans buy into this idea that the government is the absolute worst organization in the country (and god knows, there are numerous examples of bureaucratic bungling and incompetence), yet somehow the Pentagon and the military always get a complete pass in this regard. (As does the sometimes equally screwed up and self-serving private enterprise). For those of you who have never served in the US Armed Forces, trust me, it would be a real eye opener if you did.

Like the late, great Marvin Gaye sang “People say believe half of what you see, son, and none of what you hear.”

By Letterman

August 31, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Hillary on Letterman last night.

She did the “Top 10”.

Tongue-in-cheek campaign promises…

Number three…”We will finally have a president who doesn’t mind pulling over and asking for directions.”

LMAO!!!

By Say It Ain't So

August 31, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Agenda for the 2008 Democrat National Convention (Just Released)

7:00 pm Opening flag burning

7:15 pm Pledge of Allegiance to the U.N. in Spanish

7:20 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

7:25 pm Nonreligious prayer and worship with Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton

7:45 pm Ceremonial tree hugging

7:55 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

8:00 pm How I Invented the Internet - Al Gore

8:15 pm Gay Wedding - Barney Frank presiding

8:35 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

8:40 pm Our Troops are War Criminals - John Kerry

9.00 pm Saddam Memorial Rally - Cindy Sheehan and Susan Sarandon

11.00 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

11:05 pm Collection for the Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant fund Barbara Streisand

11:15 pm Free the Freedom Fighters from Guantanamo Bay - Sean Penn

11:30 pm Oval Office Affairs - William Jefferson Clinton

11:45 pm Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

11:50 pm How George Bush Brought Down the World Trade Towers - Howard Dean & Rosie O’Donnel

12:15 am “Truth in Broadcasting Award” - Presented to Dan Rather by Michael Moore

12:25 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

12:30 am Satellite address by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

12:45 am Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton by Nancy Pelosi

12:50 am Speech and toast by Hugo Chavez to the departure of “the great satan”, ‘W’ Bush.

12:55 am Hillary proposes a toast to our 89 million new Democratic Mexican voters

1:00 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast to the extinction of the Republican party.

1:05 am Coronation of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

1:30 am Ted Kennedy proposes a toast

1:35 am Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hillary home

By Hey Mr Paul

August 31, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the basic mistrust of all facts conservative….it’s just historically correct to question.

Your saying FACT may not be so.

Show us your facts.

By raisedanidiot

August 31, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Truly, we are the last minority to suffer socially acceptable bigotry! Craig could have done ANYTHING else short of murdering orphaned infants and the GOP would have defended his dumbazz til the cows came home. BTW, am I the only one that thinks Craig sort of has a grim reeper look? Its like he’s the homo ghost of Nixon with his…”I AM NOT GAY…I AM NOT A CROOK!! Seriously, why is this joker any worse than any other repub dirt bag caught by his short and curlies? Just the incenuation that he is gay makes him totally friendless…the dems wouldn’t pizz on him if he was on fire anyway, but where the hell is all that good ol’ GOP loyalty? You can lie, cheat, steal or even kill…but by god if you’re gay…no amount of repug repentence can save your azz…wonder what the neo-cons would say if Craig came out and said, O.k, I am gay, but I’ve found Jesus and I want to walk that “straight” and narrow…I can just see the love now.

“By georgia 74

August 31, 2007 10:19 AM I would like to vote for a Republican, are there any who are not gay or habitual liars, please advise.”

Georgia74…I suggest you buy one of my gaydars…they’re on sale this week for $19.99…comes with a toaster if you order now….dumbazz!

By Hey Mr it aint so

August 31, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Your an a*******hole, but the post was funny!

Course the agenda for the Republican Convention is much simpler.

Terror

Terror

Terror

Terror

Repeat ad nauseum

And that ain’t funny!

By Gonna Love 08

August 31, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Gonzo like Dubya is a huge shame on the great state of Texas…..

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

That 12:45 is some of the funniest stuff I have read recently! Thank you!

Though I’m not worth a hoot as a Democratic anymore, here’s a note to my constipated, or as Midori calls them - “humor impaired”, neo-con friends, it is good to laugh at yourself sometimes!!!

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

If I can grab the mic away from my wife during the radio interview today at 2PM on 1620 AM, I’m going to try the bit about driving with saggy pants (suspendered license, couple of belts).

Stay tuned.

Google American Cancer Society for contributions.

By Say It Ain't So

August 31, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

The problem is, AmVet, there is a lot of truth to the 12:45 post.

By Hey Mr it aint so

August 31, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

””“The problem is, AmVet, there is a lot of truth to the 12:45 post. “”

The Problem REALLY is you wouldn’t know the truth if it sat in the stall next to you!

By I'm a democrat pervert and I admit it

August 31, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Family values are over rated.

Let gays marry!

Can I borrow your children?

We going to the airport!

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

What other people think and say, 1:06, is not a problem unless you make it one for yourself!

But your original post got me thinking about a possible answer to some of our problems.

As we all know, the leaders of the Democrats/liberals can be self-obsessed mean little pr!cks. But there is also an abundance of self-effacing and very humorous people in that camp.

The Republicans/neo-cons on the other hand fit that description as well but with a complete dearth of self-effacing humor.

Therefore, the nation will prosper with more Republican humor and GOP comedians who don’t take themselves and their beliefs so damned seriously all of the time!

Oh wait! If Dennis Miller and that inane show on Fox are representative though, this could be a really bad idea.

But hey, lets give it a try anyway!

Sometimes watching people bomb can be pretty funny.

By I'm a Republican pervert and I won't admit it.....

August 31, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Even after I get caught!

By AmVet

August 31, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

I recently saw Bill Maher tell BOR that the GOP candidates were not vote-worthy but were great for comedic material.

And in that vein, I wonder if he has used any “wide stance” references yet. And I can only imagine the potato jokes that are forthcoming!

What a hoot! Poor Idaho, known for so very little, but now they get this!

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see the Luckovich video on ajc.com? It’s pretty neat. It shows him drawing Wednesday’s cartoon.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Of course, he draws with his left hand.

That was cool.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

RNC convention will go like this:

Fear.

Break to the mens room.

Hate.

Break to the mens room.

Fear.

Break to the mens room.

Geez.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Getalife - LOL!!! I noticed that too! You gotta love the lefties!

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Getalife, You forgot the Jesus Workshop and before the last break to the mens room.

By raisedanidiot

August 31, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

ITN @1:58 - the general must be experiencing that honesty problem that plagues the GOP as dust ball was explaining earlier…

“THAT was the downfall of Gonzales. He was TOO honest.”

ALrighty then…that’s why I like this blog…keeps a smile on my face!

By Paul

August 31, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

getalife 12:09

Well I’m hoping HE won’t be fooled again. We’ll see.

42 Below? I’ve seen it but haven’t tried it. I will.

I saw the advert for Grey Goose pear - guy at the store said Absolut was good, too. Didn’t really care for it. Strange taste, then again, it’s been so long since I ate a pear that tasted like anything…

I was in a bar where a yuppie guy ordered Grey Goose and Red Bull. The bartender saw my expression and said “I just mix’em. If he wants to put Grey Goose with that it’s more money for me.”

What was @@ saying the other day about how some people try to impress others?

Geez

(it was well worth the nickel!)

By Gonna Love 08

August 31, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Say it aint so,

Here is the Republican agenda for their 2008 convention.

Fri 8 a.m. till Sunday 6 P.M - How we can screw the country and make our friends rich.

Sunday 6 p.m. - 6:01 p.m. Family values class

Sunday 6:05 - 8 P.M. Presentation from Haliburton.

Closing prayer will be led by Ted Haggard….

By getalife

August 31, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

He wore a blue shirt too.

That video will make duh’s head explode.

They pray in the mens room, well, that is was what they would tell the arresting officer.

Geez, gop freak show.

By Paul

August 31, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Bosch 2:12

Are the ladies included in all the men’s room activities? Or is that at the Democratic Convention?

Sorry… it’s Friday… tradition, you know…

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I didn’t notice the BLUE shirt! Good one, good one. Yes, I think your right, that will make Duh’s head explode. LOL!!!

I’m sure Craig was praying alot after his trip to the mens room.

Raisedanidiot - yeah, sometimes you just have to shake your head.

Paul, I just threw up in my mouth a bit when you said Red Bull and Grey Goose. Red Bull and Vodka? Oh, that’s about the most disgusting thing I’ve ever heard of, other than swallow nests of course!

By getalife

August 31, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,

42 below is very potent and mixing with Red Bull gets in your system faster.

Betryaus will not tell the truth and it is a shame you think he will.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Paul, Of course!

By Midori

August 31, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Just now on CNN: Sen. Warner will NOT seek reelection.

By Midori

August 31, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

{{{{Are the ladies included in all the men’s room activities? Or is that at the Democratic Convention?}}}}}

Ha!!!

Well, Paul, we sorta live and let live. We love our men, and our men love us. Our women love our women, and our men love our men. And wer’e damn proud of it. :)

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

WOMEN AT THE RNC WILL BE AVOIDING THIS

Christian Domestic Discipline means spank your wife

By Paul

August 31, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

getalife,

ah, that explains it. Yuppie guy was with Yuppie gal. Impress her, get her blitzed, then Yuppie guy doesn’t have to worry about impressing Yuppie gal.

Yuppies are cleverer than I’d given them credit for -

re: Gen Petraeus - I’m just an eternal optimist.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Paul,

When I was going to school, I worked at a liquor store and the owner loved wines.

He would take us to wine tasting festivals and we tried them all.

There was a white sweet wine I liked. I think it was Pouilly Fuisse (sp?)?

Rothchild was nasty tasting.

By Paul

August 31, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Midori 2:33

You’d make a darn fine Libertarian!

Actually - I think those “live and let live” attitudes make a darn fine person -

Getalife

My wife enjoyed a range of wines, then went through a very serious medical procedure - after the op she said wine all turned to vinegar in her mouth. Except for one of the kinds like the white you referenced. Makes buying simple.

But the good part is, now she really likes spicy food. I’m happy about that -

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

U.S. Military Censors ThinkProgress

{{{{The ban began sometime shortly after Aug. 22, when Ret. Maj. Gen. John Batiste was our guest blogger on ThinkProgress. He posted an op-ed that was strongly critical of the President’s policies and advocated a “responsible and deliberate redeployment from Iraq.” Previously, both the Wall Street Journal and Washington Times had rejected the piece.}}}}}

By Midori

August 31, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Libertarian?

heaven forbid!!!

By getalife

August 31, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Actually, live and let live is a Dem position.

Funny, how the gop have turned libertarian.

Geez.

By Who needs political parties?

August 31, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

I dont understand how anyone can root for a party instead of their fellow americans. Everything i read on this blog is a he said she said about each party. Here is a news flasht their are crooks on both sides of the isle. The sooner you realize this the sooner this country can get down to being the super power we once were. Blaming the other party get us nowhere and most of the facts you quote on this blog are B.S. So lets all united to get our country back on the right track, what do you say??

By raisedanidiot

August 31, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

ITN @2:37 - that’s hilarious…neo-cons have to have a biblical premise to get kincky…talk about your anal retentive…ha ha haha hhaahaaahaa ha..oh sht, I peed my pants a little.

By The Watcher

August 31, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Who needs political parties….

I sorta agree.

But until we bring down the existing corrupt administration and hold them accountable for their actions we cannot move forward.

By raisedanidiot

August 31, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Who needs political parties @3:28 - don’t get me wrong…you are dead on right…but I doubt you’ll get all the other whos in whoville to gather around the tree holding hands…the problem is the “great uniter” is also the Grinch…quite disillusioning for the whos.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Oh My God! Gay people are getting married in Iowa!

Okay, I’ve never been to Iowa, but I’ve always thought it was kind of a conservative place - but they allow gay marriage. And I can’t buy beer on Sundays because it’s a sin.

Ain’t Georgia grand?

By IN THE NEWS

August 31, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Who’s profiting from the Iraq war?

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 31, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife August 31, 2007 2:19 PM That video will make duh’s head explode.}}}}

al_Gitmo: Why would I watch a video of someone I despise?

Well, now that I think about it, I would watch one of him sobbing at the Thompson Inauguration.

Hey, that’s another damn good idea from me, we could do a medley of all the Professional Cry Babies and their sorrowful and hysterical reactions to their loss of the Senate and other resounding defeats.

I claim intellectual property rights on this project, so don’t bother sharing the idea around, maggots.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Hey Duh, Why don’t you enter Luckovich’s cartoon contest? You can draw a cartoon and send it in while he’s on vacation!

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

I think Luchovich’s caricature of Gonzales was the real humor here. Look at how he portrayed this weasel of a man. The eyes, the expression is spot on, and tells the bigger story about the kind of man Gonzales is, and I’m ashamed he’s an American.

By @@

August 31, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

I recall that it was the conservatives here who said there’s no need to make new immigration laws…we just need to enforce the ones we already have.

(((Whether Mexico implements reforms that will begin to reduce the need for massive migrations to the United States depends largely on the will of the Mexican government. However, the current dip in remittances is on the government’s radar and could give Mexican President Felipe Calderon ammunition as he takes his case for further economic reforms to the public. The expected decline in remittances could serve as an impetus to make fundamental changes to Mexico’s economy that might set all parts of the country on an economic trajectory of job growth.)))

Just how many administrations has it taken to accept this reality?

We shall see. Good luck to the population of Mexico. Please don’t blame America’s Republicans for the rising cost of your corn tortillas.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

It is ideas like duh’s that have his party in a tail spin.

Duh.

w and cheney were briefed today on Iraq.

I bet dick asked when he could bomb Iran.

Geez.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

I think I’m going to enter Luckovich’s contest. Here’s my cartoon idea:

A gated community called something like Republican Gardens and all the houses are closets! What do ya’ think?

By raisedanidiot

August 31, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Bosch - I always wanted to see one with the “bush-head” portrayed as the father, son, holy spirit…father=dicky…son=georgie jr….holy spirit= the rove meister…you know, the three-in-one.

By Bosch

August 31, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot- Excellent! I love it! Let’s do it!

Okay, I’ve got to run for the day! Have a great weekend everyone!

By @@

August 31, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

I’ve heard that Senator Craig is going to resign sometime this afternoon.

When asked by a reporter if he thought Senator Craig should resign, President Bush said nothing.

I’m not worried, the conspiracy theorists will read between his silence and come up with something outrageous.

Paul:

I never said anything about impressing people. The only thing that truly impresses me is the honesty of children, the beauty of nature, and the resilience of people to overcome adversity.

That’s about it.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Warner has a good point on asking how to get the Iraq government to do something.

It is mission accomplished for the troops but both governments have failed.

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Great cartoon idea, bosch!

By Dusty

August 31, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

@@ 4:15

I’d be glad to help the Mexican economy. Do you know any good beaches to visit there? Not one that’s been hit by a hurricane? Not Cancun and that type. I’ve already had the summer mountain trip and the coast sounds good. (It’s nice to dream.)

Anyway, I was busy the whole day yesterday and missed the milk discussion. But I did want to add that we have been using powdered skim milk ever since the children were small and drinking a gallon a day. We still use it a lot. I buy a box that makes 20 quarts for $12. The price just jumped by $2. A box lasts about a week here. It is fat free of course. I even cook with it and make the favorite of my husband, “powdered milk biscuits”.

I will have to be a milk connoisseur since I don’t know anything about wine except Manichevitz, which I gather scores no points at all.

By getalife

August 31, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Here is a toon idea.

Rove waving as he leaves and the Dems having a parade with the gay community (including Craig, Haggerd and Foley) to celebrate.

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty, cancun just got hit by a hurrican and it caused 1 billion dollars in improvements, so I’d go there if I were you. Wear the red bikini. Drink Pina Coladas, and walk in the moolight. The breeze will be kind. You’ll see dophins in formation just off shore. and sharks with frickin lazer beams attached to their heads…..

I’m declaring it officially Miller Time at 4:52 pm Friday, Sept 31. 2007. Drink in moderation and dont drive with a suspendered license if you’re wearing baggy pants. Have a couple of belts handy, after all, it’s miller time…………

By raisedanidiot

August 31, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

@@ - “When asked by a reporter if he thought Senator Craig should resign, President Bush said nothing.”

The best response I’ve heard from Bush yet.

Rovespierre- please don’t encourage dust ball to wear a bikini…the mental image I’m getting of those “powdered milk jugs” isn’t pretty

By Rovespierre

August 31, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute, raise, how do you know dusty’s not a babe, and she’s just testing us to see which one she’s going to invite to a “from here to eternity” sex scene on the beach at midnight…..Yeah, Baby!

there’s nothing like a babe on the beach. I hate the beach, but if there’s a promise of a babe, then I love the beach, dont know why that is. By myself, I hate beaches with a passion. True.

Miller Time.

By @@

August 31, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

I can’t offer you any advice on beaches in Mexico. I’ve only been to Cancun and was appalled by the poverty I saw outside the tourist area.

It was hotter than hades, the ocean current was unbelievably strong. I really didn’t get to see anything I wanted to see. The friend I was with wanted to shop and enjoy the nightlife.

I did go snorkeling and got to see an eel in an underwater rock formation. That was worth my time and money.

Other than that, it sucked.

By Dusty

August 31, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Well, Rovespierre,4:57

If Cancun had a hurricane that CAUSED 1 billion dollars in IMPROVEMENTS, the Mexican economy should take a leap forward. A few more hurricanes like that and Mexico will be a paradise.

And if you have a few more drinks, the whole world will burst with improvements. Enjoy but don’t drive.

By Paul

August 31, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

@@ 4:37

It was just my interpretation of your post - which I took to mean you and your husband set your own goals and went your own way to achieve them, forgoing that which many consider important - like a bigbig house or a new car every two years. So there was not a concern with impressing people - which were my words - just a desire to live one’s life by one’s values.

By N-GA

August 31, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

Paul,

If both Tavels are the same vintage, toss a coin. I’ve found them to be generally consistent. However, rose’ is best drunk young, so go for the more recent vintage if that is a choice. Serve chilled, but not as cold as a soft drink. The colder a wine is served, the less you can experience the fruit. Take the time to experience the taste from the front of your palate to the back. Typically the finish will not be very long.

But then just get into it. Chilled rose’ is not a sipping wine ; it is a quaffing wine!!!!

By Paul

August 31, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Thanks for the info. I’d planned on getting both - you know, when faced with a choice of two things you really want, choose both!

I believe I have the unit programmed 50 degrees so I’ll let it stand at room temp for a while. I was thinking about pulling out the instant-read, calibrated thermometer, then I thought “Relax! Close enough! Quaff!”

You do pop out with some neat sounding words. Have a wonderful time at the island -

By Dusty

August 31, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

@@ 5:15

Eeeee… an eel under a rock? Hmm, @@, I don’t think you are going to be invited to join the Mexican Tourist Bureau.

If I look at an eel, I want a great big glass plate between us, as in aquariums. I don’t like slippery characters!! ( hmmm now that gives me an idea for a Luckovich look-alike cartoon).

By @@

August 31, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Here ‘ya go, a little something from Stratfor on the China/Russia alliance.

(((China is making a bid for Central Asia’s energy resources — a move that will ultimately expand into a bid for geopolitical control of the entire region. Russia is waking up to the threat and starting to take countermeasures, setting the stage for a broad Sino-Russian conflict in Central Asia.)))

(((So, in the Russian mind, rhetorically China is a Russian ally that is theoretically committed to building a multipolar world to hedge in U.S. power. As Russia is discovering, however, the key words in that sentence are “rhetorically” and “theoretically”; China looks out for China’s interests, and it is in China’s interests to have a strong economic relationship with Washington and ever-closer economic and political ties with Central Asia.)))

(((China will remain at the mercy of U.S. foreign policy for its industrial, energy and trade policy. Since China desperately wants to avoid a confrontation with Washington so it can focus on its internal problems, the only way for China to square the circle is to develop a wholly land-based energy supply system that is out of the reach of U.S. fleets. Simply put, China’s strategic imperatives dictate dealing with Central Asia.)))

(((The bottom line is that the geopolitical imperatives of Russia and China — always uneasily tolerating each other — are now grating against one another in what is truly a zero-sum game. Only one of them can have Central Asian natural gas, and whoever controls that gas ultimately controls the region.)))

Global strategies…

By @@

August 31, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Dusty:

I’m on my way out to dinner with friends.

If not snorkeling with eel, how about swimming with a wild manatee.

The Crystal River in Florida. Fifteen minutes of awe and wonder. Touched his whiskers, stroked his back, held onto his flipper while we glided through and under the water.

Awesome experience.

Have a great holiday weekend.

Paul:

Most everyone I know says I march to a different drummer.

Ditto the weekend thing.

By Goldie

August 31, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

{{Of course, he draws with his left hand.}}

Getalife & Bosch— I’m a leftie, too. My dad spent many a day putting the crayon in my right hand to draw, and as soon as he turned his back, I’d switch over to my left hand. My kindergarten teacher told him to just let me be… he then learned to go with the flow and love me as a leftie!

By Andi/e-duh

August 31, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Touched his whiskers, stroked his back, held onto his flipper while we glided through and under the water.

Sounds like my date with Senator Craig in his favorite toilet in the Macon bus station…

By Goldie

August 31, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

{{A gated community called something like Republican Gardens and all the houses are closets! What do ya’ think?}}

Bosch— I like your toon idea! What if they were “water closets”, or is that too much?

By N-GA

August 31, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

@@,

The fundamental difference between the PRC and the US is that the PRC is content to wait a long time to attain economic and political objectives whereas the US typically requires immediate gratification.

The PRC may be somewhat dependent upon the US for energy, trade, and industrial policies, the fact that the PRC is moving to solidify energy sources throughout the world (i.e. -central Asia and Venezuela) shows that they are unwilling to play second fiddle to the US in that arena.

Industrial and trade issues are closely intertwined and I suspect we have reached a state of mutual dependency. In fact, Germany now exports the manufacturing of high-end forged cutlery to the PRC. The next time you are in a store selling Wustoff or other carving knives, look at the blade for the country of origin and prepare to be surprised.

And let me summarize by the recent veiled threat by the PRC to attack the US dollar by selling off the US debt that they had purchased with excess $$$ reserves.

All I’m trying to say is that perhaps it is too simple to suggest that the PRC is dependent upon the US for much of anything at this point. I know a couple of small manufactureers who tremble at the thought of losing PRC manufacturing facilities. Think of all the unsold airtime when the infommercials had no products to sell!

By Paul

August 31, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Have a good weekend all -

Happy Labor Day!

Any holiday to celebrate motherhood gets my nod -

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