Mike Luckovich

By candide

August 28, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

It’s not that animals are more important than humans. It is simply that someone who harms an animal without good reason harms his own humanity. We are all part of nature.

By ed lorenzo

August 28, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Do you think that by Christmas Time, the media will have dropped the Vick Saga? The range of coverage that included sanctification to hanging is about as nauseous as a Rush Limbaugh program. Have a good day and pet your dog. He is the only one that loves you. (just like Gonzalez and Bush)

By Paul

August 28, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Lots of Luckovich metaphors this morning. The one with power using the other for sport and entertainment. Killing the other and as candide said, debasing his own humanity. Then comes awareness, apology and acceptance of both parties, with the implicit understanding to not repeat the past and strike out on a better future.

A metaphor for our own politictal system?

Nahhhhh……….

By mike

August 28, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Great now we can turn the attention to the hospitals our Iraq injured are in. or to all the other returning vets who need psych help. or maybe we can help bring our schools up in quality. But I forgot these involve humans not dogs.

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

So now the US Army is transitioning from an all volunteer army to a mercenary army…

$20,000 to enlistees who agree to immediate deployment. So what does an 18 year old kid think? How about: Gee whiz, 15 months in Iraq and I can get me a new Mustang with 18-inch wheels. Of course it might need special equipment for amputees. Or a chaufeur for veterans with TBI.

Yup…if you can’t attract them with patriotic slogans, then rent them. The good old GOP answer to everything. Feed the GREED!!

By Eric

August 28, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

I prefer dogs to a lot of the people I know. That’s not so much a reflection of me or dogs as it is a reflection of some of the trash who masquerade as people. Dubya and Cheney and Gonzo and Turd Blossom come to mind.

By Eric

August 28, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

I prefer dogs to a lot of the people I know. That’s not so much a reflection of me or dogs as it is a reflection of some of the trash who masquerade as people. Dubya and Cheney and Gonzo and Turd Blossom come to mind.

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

And those wingnuts who embraced Nicolas Sarkozy to their bosom(s) must be applauding his call for a “…clear timetable for the pullout of foreign troops…” from Iraq.

Yup…he’s one of you!!!

ROTFLMAO

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

I really hate to say it, but I kind of felt sorry for Vick yesterday when I saw his statement on the news. Now, don’t get me wrong, I think what he did was completely repulsive, and I think he is a thug, but he is an example of how many just can’t handle money and fame. I read an article about his dad, and good lord, what a loser, and I’m sure all these “friends” of his live off his money too.

It’s really sad all the way around, but hopefully we won’t have to hear about it for too much longer.

I have another question. About yesterday’s cartoon, a friend of mine told me over the weekend, that he saw some kind of show on television that talked about the origins of the whole fashion trend of the pants down past your rear thing. He told me that according to the show (he couldn’t remember the name of the show of channel), it started in the prison population, and the men who wore their pants down past their rears - well, I think you get the picture here. Has anyone else heard that? Because if that is true, I bet not too many of these kids who knew that would want to display themselves as the “girly men” if you know what I mean. Yuck.

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner has offered to apologise to Iraq if he had meddled in its affairs.

AND

In his first major foreign policy address, French President Nicholas Sarkozy called for a timetable to withdraw foreign troops from Iraq. “The Iraq tragedy cannot leave us indifferent. France was, thanks to Jacques Chirac, and remains hostile to this war,” said Sarkozy.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

N-GA 9:04

Sarkozy is? And here I thought the top-tier Dem candidates weren’t calling for a pullout - more like a drawdown and a moveabout?

Wait - you said “wingnut” - so the corresponding group would be “moonbat,” correct? I believe that’s the group calling for a pullout. So American moonbats have something similar with a French conservative? Too bad we couldn’t have such commonality in this country.

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

But what really gets me is our bustling economy. Yes, I know that home foreclosures are at an alltime high. And just today it is being reported that credit card delinquencies shot up last month.. Defaults are up and write-offs have increased 30% over last year.

But if you tell the truth, you are un-American because you should only report the good news.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid you lemmings. (mixed metaphor?)

By @@

August 28, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

There was a time in my life when I would have taken Michael Vick at his word. It was during my years as a liberal.

He’s pleaded guilty NOW, but I’m not buying his remorse.

BTW ml, who’s your dog in today’s cartoon?

Young…naive…and oh so impressionable.

By Doom is satisified

August 28, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

@@,

What could Vick have done to convince you of his remorse? As a Christian, you’ve missed the boat.

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

I too am tired of Vick on every front page in every newspaper in America. Four years ago when the owners of dog racing greyhounds were found to be killing their dogs who were either too old or not winning, where was the fuss? I don’t like going to the seaquarium because I can’t stand how they have those animals in those tanks that are too small for them, (they used to have a whole ocean to roam now their confined in a small “box” compared to what they were used to), being forced to entertain crowds of humans for their enjoyment.

And I won’t even mention how i feel about horse racing!! Whatever happens to THOSE animals when they don’t have the great bloodline to breed out and are no longer, (if they ever did), bringing in winning purses? ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Now as for the 20K that the Army is paying soldiers to enlist — I have to say that if I was a kid in a dead end job, even though there was a war, I’d jump at the chance of earning 20K. They get 10K when they finish secondary training, (not tax free of course), and then the rest throughout their enlistment, plus any additinal enlistment bonuses. You can’t beat that!! I’d sign up for the minimum, take the money, and flip the Army a bird on my way out the door!!!

PS: But I wouldn’t SHOOT the bird, ‘cause it’ll be cruel to animals.

By @@

August 28, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Bosch:

Just saw your 9:08. I’ve heard the same claim on the droopy drawers fashion trend, but it was the “no-belts” allowed in prison to prevent possible suicides.

Ironic, isn’t it?

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Perhaps you missed my sarcasm. A couple of days ago some of our fellow bloggers (from the right) were boasting about Sarkozy and his pledge to help in Iraq. I had responded that I won’t believe that until French soldiers show up to help American troops.

Maybe next time I’ll do the (sarc off) thing…..

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Hmmmm amazing how only republicans when they’re caught, (Foley [teen boys], Abramahoff, Haggard, etc.); are the only ones worthy of being remorseful; all others who confess to remorse are met with disdain and people not “buying” their words.

I guess if Vick would’ve said that he and his dogs prayed about it and now he’s “converted” back to becoming straight again; or something to that affect, it would’ve been easier to swallow.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

N-GA

I’ve already had a dropped post after your first of the day - gotta watch this server, down yesterday, acting squirrely this morning.

I believe those recruiting bribes are called “bonuses.” Their system’s full of ‘em. They pay lots of money to lots of people for ‘skills’ we really don’t use (learn how to parchute!) or we pay people in priviliged careers who are compensated well over $100k a year (pilots) another $20k a year to “fly” drones over Iraq or along our border. ‘Cept they do it from someplace in California? Hey, at least the young, not as educated are getting in on it.

Isn’t this a “free market” kind of thing? (aside - about as “free market” as the enticements of subprime mortages) -

That’s another reason I don’t care for the idea of a draft. That’s pure coercion - at least this has an element of choice.

BTW - I went out the other day to get some Talus rose’ - the large store I frequent had the typical cab, merlot - no rose’. I’ll keep looking - or else order in a case.

By Enough is Enough

August 28, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

GOP Senator Larry Craig arrested in ‘bathroom incident’

No big news here, he was outed last year.

But this “family values” guy was publically a gay basher.

Folks like this guy Craig give Republicans and Gays a bad name with their hypocrisy.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

@@, Okay, thanks. I wonder where one might look something like that up, do you google “droopy drawers?”

What a bizarre fashion trend that is. I saw this guy at the gas station the other day whose pants were so low, his back pants pockets were at his hamstrings, and he was having trouble walking with his pants like that, and I thought to myself, “Why? Why?” Very bizarre indeed.

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

I don’t believe Vick for a minute. By the same token, why aren’t the authorities coming down harder on the Mayor of Blue Ridge (Georgia, that is).

This politician (a Republican) has been arrested twice for attending c** fights. I wonder if Sonny should “give him a talkin’ to”.

By Doom hates excuses

August 28, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

Stop using excuses to justify your hatred for conservatives. Foley, and your other examples didn’t wait until the absolute last second to confess. They also didn’t lie through their teeth until then.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

N-GA 9:25

Thanks and please. I did pick up a bit of //sarc// - it was likely as clear as my //sarc// at 9:14.

I doubt we’ll be seeing the Tricolor in Iraq anytime soon. The French already have their hands full with their own deployments - Kosovo, Lebanon, Chad, Gabon, another half dozen bilateral operations throughout Africa - those former colonies can be a real pain.

DebbieDoRight 9:20

But you’d have to make it through your first enlistment before giving the hand signals. Get out before, you have to pay it aaaallllll back.

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Paul, I just think that calling our Army an all-volunteer outfit when the only way to recruit sufficient troops is to implement big signing bonuses and lower acceptance standards is smarmy.

I also believe that everyone should be required to perform “public service”, which would include military service and/or some other needed work. Oh, I think we already had this discussion.

BTW, the rose’ is “Tavel”. Google it for some more info. I suggest that you make 2-3 phone calls to see if a store has it. Your best bet would be Green’s, Sherlock’s, or Total Wine. It tends to sell very quickly when it is stocked.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

@@, Check this out: Sagging Pants

I liked this too - that’s kind of how I feel about this.

By AmVet

August 28, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Color me naive, but after reading Vick’s transcript and hearing his mom (I know, I know) saying he has a big heart, I’m inclined to believe his repentance is somewhat heart felt.

It may well be that he is mainly sorry for getting caught and not his actions leading up to that, but I kind of doubt it.

And there is no question that he has earned whatever proper justice is coming his way.

But unlike some others here, I do believe that redemption is possible. And to me that has absolutely nothing to do with religion, notwithstanding his “finding” Jesus.

So if he can find his and going forward can make a truly positive difference in the world, that is a good thing. No, a great thing.

And I, for one, would love to see it.

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Aug. 27 — Several federal agencies are investigating a widening network of criminal cases involving the purchase and delivery of billions of dollars of weapons, supplies and other matériel to Iraqi and American forces, according to American officials. The officials said it amounted to the largest ring of fraud and kickbacks uncovered in the conflict here. The inquiry has already led to several indictments of Americans, with more expected, the officials said. One of the investigations involves a senior American officer who worked closely with Gen. David H. Petraeus in setting up the logistics operation to supply the Iraqi forces when General Petraeus was in charge of training and equipping those forces in 2004 and 2005, American officials said Monday.

By @@

August 28, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Bosch:

It’s information that I got from some youths, both african american and white so I have no way of knowing whether it’s tru or not.

Doom:

I’ll tell you like I told AmVet… redemption is not mine to give. I can forgive. That’s very easy for me. I do it all the time.

Consequences are an important part of the learning process. Vick’s remorse is most likely motivated by his plea agreement and nothing more.

“The government agrees to recommend sentencing at the low end of the applicable guideline range, provided the defendant fulfills his obligations under this plea agreement.”

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 28, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

The dog must be some naďve moron democrat if it thinks a handshake is a start.

~~~~~~

{{{Dear Excellency and Friend:}}}

{{{I thank you very sincerely for your letter and for your offer to transport me towards freedom. I cannot, alas, leave in such a cowardly fashion. As for you, and in particular for your great country, I never believed for a moment that you would have this sentiment of abandoning a people which has chosen liberty. You have refused us your protection, and we can do nothing about it. You leave, and my wish is that you and your country will find happiness under this sky. But, mark it well, that if I shall die here on the spot and in my country that I love, it is no matter, because we all are born and must die. I have only committed this mistake of believing in you [the Americans].}}}

{{{Please accept, Excellency and dear friend, my faithful and friendly sentiments.}}}

{{{S/Sirik Matak}}}

{{{The Khmer Rouge took Phnom Penh a few days later. Sirik Matak was executed: shot in the stomach, he was left without medical help and took three days to die. Between 1 and 2 million Cambodians were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in the next three years. Next door, tens of thousands of Vietnamese were killed, and many more imprisoned. Hundreds of thousands braved the South China Sea to reach freedom.}}}

~~~~~~

{{{{Democratic Congressman Brian Baird (D, Wash.) now argues that the Democrats’ constant attempts to substantially reduce the number of troops in Iraq are creating a less stable political situation in the country. “People seem to think, and I believed at one point, that threats of withdrawal would motivate the Iraqis solve their problems,” he says. “I’ve come to believe that it may well be the reverse.}}}}

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 305 August 27, 2007 Wham, Bam, Thank You Nam Edition

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

AmVet, I think you’re right - I think he is sad he got caught more than anything. I forgot about the “finding Jesus” bit in his apology. Whatever.

That’s almost as rich as the preacher who beat the hell out of his wife, and blamed Satan.

But you are right, if he can indeed make a “truly positive difference in the world” that is great, we’ll have to just wait and see.

Is his brother (Marcus) in jail? Just curious. His dad is a piece of work, wow, what a complete loser.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

N-GA

LOL!!!! I walked into the store thinking “Talus, Talus?!!? Well, no one ever said price was the sole determinant of quality, but N-GA recommended it….”

We have had the discussion - and the universal service has merit. I brought up the other for benefit of others reading who didn’t have a recollection of the past conversations. Could have some good side effects - the remedial reading and writing so many would need would have benefits to society far after the service commitment.

“Smarmy.” I like that word. I tend to stress the side of the equation that calls for a drastic cutback in our Imperial adventures and commitments. Plus weapons systems. Plus structure. But we’ve been through all that, too. (I’ve often wondered how I can make statements like that and still be branded a “neocon.” Unless saying a single understanding thing about the Pres is the sole qualification).

By Sinners can't win with @@

August 28, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

If no one asked for forgiveness when they got caught, no one would ask for forgiveness. Confessing under a plea agreement, just as confessing under a covenent agreement, doesn’t take away authenticity. Unfortunately, some of us need an agreement.

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

VANCOUVER — Hundreds at a raucous and hostile town hall Monday night let U.S. Rep. Brian Baird know that they disapprove of his support for the troop surge in Iraq. Many suggested the Vancouver Democrat is not representing the will of his district.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

Paul, I thought the same thing when I saw N-GA’s use of “smarmy.” I’m going to try and use that word at least three times today in conversation.

Thanks N-GA! You win “The Good Word of the Day Award”

By Paul

August 28, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Bosch - N-GA - AmVet

I got this the other day, was going to ask one of the other posters of the liberal, female persuasion if it’s just an urban legend or if, in fact, there is a basis in fact, here. Any idea?

A woman married three times walked into a bridal shop and told the sales clerk that she was looking for a wedding gown for her fourth wedding. “Of course, madam,” replied the sales clerk, “exactly what type and color dress are you looking for?”

The bride to be said: “A long frilly white dress with a veil.” The sales clerk was irritated a bit, then said, “Please don’t take this the wrong way, but gowns of that nature are considered more appropriate for brides who are being married the first time - for those who are a bit more innocent, if you know what I mean? Perhaps ivory or sky blue would be nice?”

“Well,” replied the customer, a little peeved at the clerk’s directness, “I can assure you that a white gown would be quite appropriate. Believe it or not, despite all my marriages, I remain as innocent as a first-time bride. You see, my first husband was so excited about our wedding, he died as we were checking into our hotel. My second husband and I got into such a terrible fight in the limo on our way to our honeymoon that we had that wedding annulled immediately and we never spoke to each other again.”

“What about your third husband?” asked the sales clerk.

“That one was a Democrat,” said the woman, “and every night for four years, he just sat on the edge of the bed and told me how good it was going to be, but nothing ever happened.”

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

No, Paul, I think the ending is something more like “The third husband was a REPUBLICAN!” Ha ha ha.

Just kidding. That was funny.

I wish I could remember jokes. I am so bad about that. When I do remember them, I always mess them up when I’m trying to say them.

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

@@ 9:46, (Glad you are back!)

In reference to droopy pants, it seems that Judge Greg Mathis, host of a TV program, wrote in Jet magazine In prison you aren’t allowed to wear belts to prevent self hanging or the hanging of others. So there’s one reference about the prison influence.

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Paul,

There is nothing like a great joke to take the edge off…

BTW, I don’t include you in the neo-con or wingnut category when I make those sweeping, unsubstantiated, sterotypical statements about the far right. And I think those that do tag you with those descriptors are just trying to provoke you. They always fail.

Unfortunately I can be provoked and I tend to respond in kind. Not very constructive I know, but it is therapeutic.

BTW, IMO I tend to discount the far left, too.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Went to a school - couple months for some additional certifications - and the biggest mistake I made was not having a separate notebook for all the jokes. Every guest speaker (there were lots) led off with a joke - all clean, no rough language, none of the ‘isms’ - just darn funny. That’s since happened at other conferences. One of the best was a Marriott VP with a true story - those are the best kind -

By @@

August 28, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Sinners can’t win:

It’s funny you would choose the word “win”. My forgiveness is there for them, but the “win” is up to them. I have no control over whether they choose to win what exactly?

I can’t preach to Vick, now can I? Liberals won’t stand for that.

It wasn’t me who proclaimed Vick guilty before his plea or trial. I believe it was the liberals who did that.

Trust is very important when placing hopes in redemption. The fact that you and so many liberals here don’t have the courage to post under one name has pretty much destroyed any trust I might have in your redeeming qualities. But hey, it’s your choice to win or lose any trust.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

N-GA 10:11

And not every position presented is done in an advocacy way. Or a denigrating way. Sometimes I want to hear of a counterargument, a flaw, an alternative - it’s just a discussion looking for new viewpoints.

I’m of the opinion (currently, subject to change) that there are some pretty extreme views at both ends - and to break faith with one tenet automatically places you, in their eyes, square in the other camp.

Read an op-ed Sunday - said people can form political views and have them reinforced by hanging out with others of homogeneous views (no kidding) - but when done to the exclusion of other views, the people tend to think their view is the predominant view. Now that’s something to think about -

I’m about to transition back to the work stack - Cheers, all -

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

A woman walks by a pet shop on her way to and from work each day. One day she notices a large, colorful parrot on a perch outside the store. As she approached the parrot it said “Hey, Lady!”. She responded “What?”. The parrot said “You’re ugly!”.

Frustrated and put out, she went on to work, but fumed all day. On the way home, she and the parrot repeated the first encounter. This went on for several days.

Finally, the woman went into the shop and complained to the manager. Upset, the manager immediately grabbed the parrot and water-boarded the poor creature.

The next day the woman was once again walking to work. Of course as she passed the parrot it called out “Hey, Lady!”. She replied “What?” to which the parrot responded with “You Know….!!”

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 28, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

{{{{By Enough is Enough August 28, 2007 9:32 AM GOP Senator Larry Craig arrested in ‘bathroom incident’}}}}

Spammie: I know! Aren’t those homosexual people just so strange?

Who would have ever figured that one weird thought would lead to another weird thought, like a 65 year old child lurking in the men’s restroom?

We should run those gay people off, right?

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Sorry about my 10:06. The formatting did not work. Judge Mathis’ words should have been in quotation marks.

About killing animals, (I’m running behind here.)

Some bloggers don’t seem to know the difference between euthanasia and torture/killings. Many animals are euthanized at dog pounds and vetinary facilities. They are not drowned or hung to death but “put away” painlessly.

One of the more famous actions of this type is the recent demise of Barbaro, who was “put down” after failed attempts to cure him of a painful debilitating illness.

Torture is the crime which convicts animal killers such as Vick.

By Enough is Enough

August 28, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Duh,

Pardon me but I do not understand your post.

What is it that you are trying to say?

By Paul

August 28, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

N-GA

A parrot with the attitude of an adolescent kid. Gotta love it!

One last thought (always one last…)

The joke reminded me of a book I read in which the protagonist was was having a drink in a bar with his friend. Another guy at the bar insulted the protagonist, who didn’t respond. The insults became worse, then the protagonist finished his drink and said to his friend, “let’s go.” When they were outside the friend said “how could you walk away after all those things he said about you and your mother?” The guy answered “I don’t know him. Why should I value his opinion? If I responded I’d just be giving him power over me. Why would I want to do that?”

Kinda like the Morris Ave book in that regard -

Later -

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Paul at 10:20

We see polls mentioned here quite often to reenforce someone’s view that they have the only correct opinion. Is that one form of the reenforcemnt that you mentioned ?

By David

August 28, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Since this is opinion, if they let Vick come back, make him a wide receiver, to put him back as quarter back will be a distraction for the season. We need a winning season. As far as the comments about our President and his staff, yes he has made some mistakes. At least he has kept decorum in the White House, and he has not given our enemies secrets that can and will come back to hurt us, ie the China fupa. Concerned.

By Duh is for Dull

August 28, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Enough is Enough,

Please do not try to figure out Duh’s posts. You will injure yourself. The only person who can understand them is Duh.

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Doom: I don’t hate all things republican; I just abhor all things negative, incompetent, stupid, and hypocrtical. Now, just because the above traits belong to some republicans, is just a coincidence.

Paul: If I was a broke 18 y.o kid who had some street smarts, believe me, I’d make sure to get all my money before Uncle Sam gets me!

By candide

August 28, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Another Senator bites the dust, Larry Craig of Idaho. I bet he will claim to be a born-again Christian.

By Enough is Enough

August 28, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Thanks Duh is for Dull

I thought it might be me.

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Euthanasia is a nice word; however to “euthanize” an animal because it’s not peforming well in legal gambling pursuits, is no different than “euthanizing” one in an illegal gambling pursuit. Some are shot with weapons, it’s cheaper than drugs, while others have their throats slashed so that their blood can be drained for their flesh to be used as food.

All these animals were used by humans as a means of entertainment; both legal and illegal, and when their entertainment value was over, were put to death. Where is the humanity in that?

Why do some people nit pick at what they feel is the lesser evil when it supports THEIR viewpoints; but blasts the same type of behavior as truly evil, when it does not?

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

My Wife’s GOPler GAYdar was right again. First, with the Ralph Reed story of murder suicide, and then this latest gay fun in a restroom with a very high ranking Conservative.

GOPler GAYdar. (Like that one, neo-clods?) bwa

My wife insists McRove is gay, and she even thinks W is.

MY wife has the most accurate GOPpler GAYdar I’ve ever seen.

Who but someone using gay-think would let a loose cannon like Cheney have any power at all?

Who? A gay president, that’s who. Certainly McRove.

GOPpler GAYdar. It sees through the flag in which scoundrels wrap themselves.

I really like GOPpler GAYdar. I wrote that, BTW.

I see material I write on this blog end up on Leno and Letterman all the time. Someone is hacking me. (Someone? How about half the world?)

GOPpler GAYdar. Hack that, wankers.

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

The Washington Post reports that Gen. David Petraeus, after reviewing an early draft of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, succeeded in altering the document’s judgments about the violence in Iraq:

By AmVet

August 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

{I know! Aren’t those homosexual people just so strange?}

Andy, you may pretend to play this off as yet another homosexual problem, but you conveniently miss the much larger point.

Yes, you and I and countless others may feel that soliciting sex, of any type, in a public restroom is debauched. And rightfully deserves scorn and in this case an arrest.

But what you conveniently fail to note is how the act is compounded by the fact that this man took such a public anti-gay position to further his political career.

Debauched is bad enough, but a ultra-hypocritical profligate is many times worse and is now sadly fairly representative of others in Congress, etc…

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

{{{{[Edwards Proposes “Brownie’s Law” — Has Nothing To Do With Girl Scouts John Edwards announced yesterday that as president he would have a policy dubbed “Brownie’s Law,” named in “honor” of former FEMA head Michael Brown. “Edwards will enact a new requirement — ‘Brownie’s Law’ — ensuring that senior political appointees actually are qualified to perform the job to which they are appointed,” according to a campaign fact sheet. “Brownie’s Law will require that heads of executive agencies and other senior officials have demonstrated qualifications in the field related to their job.” It sure says something about the current state of governmental affairs that such a pronouncement could be considered newsworthy.}}}

By rushncap

August 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Hey, candide, lay off! Maybe Craig saw a black person and got scared! Ever think of that, huh?

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Did I miss the party you guys? The “texas gang” has finally herded up and headed out…yipeee yiii yooo!!!

Bosch - you think that we could still see impeachment this late in the game now that gonzo is gone?

Its pretty unbelievable to read anyone still supporting this administration…blunder after blunder…hypocrisy, criminal activity, deceptions, cover-ups, more lies…why? why? why? baggy pants can be comfortable… but isn’t it painful for these nut jobs to keep defending such losers?

oh yeah, btw…when buy stupid gets back somebody needs to explain to her that uh, I’m not a man…lesbians are usually women…I guess she’s the one that needs the gay-dar…among uh…other things.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Amvet, I’ve always thought these “moral police” are the ones you have to look out for. In my opinion, they have deep rooted, very serious sexual repression issues - often misguided by their religious beliefs.

When I hear people preaching “morals” they usually sound kind of scared/scary to me - I think they are really scared of themselves.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 28, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Duh is for Dull,

Personally, I understand Duh completely. He is simply a superior being to the rest of you and therefore you get lost in his wisdom.

Duh knows that going into Iraq was the right thing to do, because he says so. He knows that we can, will and must win, because he says so. He knows that the mistake of Vietnam wasn’t in the getting in, it was in the getting out. He knows that it is irrelevant that Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Nugent, etc…, etc…, etc… avoided service when they had the chance but are all patriotic flag waving hawks when its time for someone else to go. Duh knows that just because they wimped out themselves doesn’t mean they are wrong. Duh knows that the Khmer Rouge didn’t start their massacre until we left the country next door. Liberal history books may tell you that the Khmer Rouge started in 1968 during the height of the Vietnam War, but Duh knows that ‘facts’ get in the way of a good story and should be ignored as much as posible. Duh knows that there is a direct correlation between our invasion of Iraq and the war on terror. Duh knows that Iraq was a hot bed of international terrorism prior to the invasion and that we had no choice but to invade. You may ask: Name one international terror attack sponsored by Iraq under Saddam? The reason the answer is none is because they simply were too clever to get caught which is why they were so dangerous. Duh and I say prove that Iraq wasn’t behind a terror attack. Can’t do it can you? You may say that you could make the same argument against Bolivia and you’d be right. So what? Duh knows that it is perfectly consistent to support a party which cherry picked dictatorships that they liked based upon money throughout the Cold War despite their vast record of human rights abuses, and still use human rights abuses to justify attack on the ones they aren’t making money on. China good, Cuba bad. See the difference? South Africa in the 1980’s good, Venezuela bad. Can’t you see the difference? Reagan’s chief of staff Don Regan said that the reason that the administration supported normalized relationships with the Apartheid government in South Africa was because our women couldn’t live without their diamonds. Duh thought that was great! When Saddam tortured his people however it was bad and we should invade.

You may call this hypocritical. You may cal

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Listen raise, you should know that the bloggers on the right here have websites they sell GOP crap from, so they are mercenaries at best.

They are also addicted to blogging, and couldn’t stop dripping GOP cheekcheese if they were kidnapped by a evangelical rehab clinic. It would take teams of deprogrammers brainwashing around the clock at the Jim Jone’s People’s Church level in Guyana to get these over-indulged-by-their-uncle wank-kings to stfu.

By Dean Gerstein

August 28, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Mike Luckovich is a sell out, He has dogged Bush for years, but wont pick on Vick like everyone else. Get with the times, who cares what you draw on Bush he is a lame-duck (and I am a Bush supporter)

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

I do not know every incident involving the death of animals. I do know there are laws on the books which prohibit the torture of animals.

I do not call euthanasia “torture”. In fact, my dictionary calls it: the act of killing individuals (as persons or domestic animals) that are hopelessly sick or injured for reasons of mercy.

Drowning or hanging a dog is not merciful.

Vick wants the court to be “merciful” in sentencing while he himself did not possess that quality. Even talent, fame and money could not give him mercy. That is sad.

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Hey, candide, lay off! Maybe Craig saw a black person and got scared! Ever think of that, huh?

Hey I feel you buddy!!! Every time I get into an elevator and see a well dressed, polite white boy, I have flashbacks of Columbine and Oklahoma City and try to break the door down so that I can dive outta there!!!

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

[[Hey, candide, lay off! Maybe Craig saw a black person and got scared! Ever think of that, huh?]]

You know rushncap, I think you’re right; that’s really not that hard to believe. I bet everytime you see a tall, well built black man in a bathroom, you get scared too and immediately offer him a $20 while diving to your knees.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 28, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet August 28, 2007 11:18 AM But what you conveniently fail to note is how the act is compounded by the fact that this man took such a public anti-gay position to further his political career.}}}}

I’m not the one who’s gleefully trampling all over Craig, pointing out his “problems,” you are.

And since you broached the “subject” for all of us, I just simply agreed that gay people seem to do a lot of weird things, like date transsexual hookers, lurk in public restrooms, call themselves “Conservatives.”

And since you are giving me the opportunity, I would also like to point out that you are awfully quick to condemn someone for acting like a liberal, someone engaged in lewd and lascivious behavior, a favorite liberal past time so to speak, that normally you would be bleating that it is a constitutional right and an invasion of his privacy.

Yes, let’s talk about hypocrisy.

It doesn’t matter if this guy believes that gays in the military would be harmful or that gays marrying would bad for our country, it isn’t like he has any first hand knowledge, no, he is “supposed” to be a mindless democrat slogan chanting robot, forget if he has an opinion of his own.

It really doesn’t surprise me that you liberals would jump at the opportunity to sneer at another gay man, no matter the depth of his self deceit or what a lie he has been living or any other issues he suffers, after all, you are the same losers that call me gay all the time, I wonder why that is?

Do you loathe homosexuals?

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Notice how the sports page is still all vick all the time even thought Atlanta has found some incredibly brilliant q-back prospects?

I’d rather have an accurate passer, and a front line that gave him that extra half second, than vick.

Vick is a mediocre passer, and an excellent runner. He’s a passing halfback. That’s where you need to use vick, if you want him at all. I’d rather use the 150 million to buy a great front line.

Football has always been won in the trenches, just like war, it’s the grunts who bear the burden of battle, not the cavalry or the elite generals with their mistresses.

Where was Ike in the opening hours of the Bulge? I’ve seen reports that he was with Kay Somersbee in a bunker and he was incommunicado, that is, they couldn’t find him or speak with him until he was finished.

Ike was a Republican. (Just not gay.)

My wife’s GOPpler GAYdar shows Ike to be………STRAIGHT!!!!

It’s time to play Gay or Straight. Yes, “Gay or Straight”, that crazy game that allows you to test your GOPpler Gaydar.

Ralph Reed, gay or straight……tick..tick….dick…dick….GAY!!!!! Ding! (You’ve got one right.)

Okay, contestant, you’ve got one right and you’re well on your way to winning the money, dont forget if you say the secret word you’ll see a hundred dirty pillows.

McRove…..tick….tock….tick….dock…dick……GAY! Ding. (you’ve got two right)….

Well, contestant, you’re good at this…but B4 we go on, lets take a station break.

“Are you confused about your minister’s lifestyle? Is your congressman sending mixed signals whenever he says or does anything? then you need GOPpler GAYdar. For 3 easy payments of just 39.99, you can detect the most conservative and pious sounding gay man you’d never dream was gay.

You see, they dont all kill themselves and commit suicide, or get arrested in men’s rooms propositioning undercover cops, sometimes you can only tell by using our GOPpler GAYdar.

GOPpler GAYdar. It’s good to be the outting -king.

By rushncap

August 28, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Debbie — breathe, honey. Seriously.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot, Impeachment? I’m all for it. We only have two more of the horsement of the apocalypse to go!

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Dusty as usual you only see, (read) what you wish to see, (read).

[[I do not know every incident involving the death of animals. I do know there are laws on the books which prohibit the torture of animals.]]

One man’s torture is another’s man’s profit. Do you believe the animals at a seaquarium are tortured? Or at the track? Or do you believe that when their entertainment value is over they are put in a old animals home for retirement?

[[I do not call euthanasia “torture”.]]

Neither did I.

[[In fact, my dictionary calls it: the act of killing individuals (as persons or domestic animals) that are hopelessly sick or injured for reasons of mercy.]]

So if the animal is NOT sick, and NOT injured just not able to make their owners any money anymore, are you against THAT type of “euthanasia”

[[Drowning or hanging a dog is not merciful.]]

True. Neither is killing them because they can’t make you money anymore. This goes to illegal as well as LEGAL gambling on animals. But it seems that the “sanctioned” gambling and/or abuse of animals does not have the same type of knee jerk response. I wonder why?

[[Vick wants the court to be “merciful” in sentencing while he himself did not possess that quality]]

I’m amazed — you spoke very highly of the ex-Atlanta Thrashers player who drove drunk and KILLED his best friend; (I believe the player’s name was Danny Heatley). You thought he deserved mercy even though he broke the law and killed someone through his thoughtless actions;and reckless disregard for the safety of himself and others; however, you show no inclination towards that same charitable christian spirit in this instance.

Amazing.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Excuse me - Horsemen, horsemen of the apocalypse - not “horsement”

Sorry.

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Anyone want to hear more of the gay or straight show?

morons. honestly. hack hack hack-n-sack….hack, hack, hack-n-sack.

I saw a bit I wrote awhile ago on Leno. About Michael Moore’s new documentary about dogfighting called “vicko”.

Hacks. I am not going to waste any more material on this blog.

i’m starting my own blog because i am the one people come here to read so they can hack.

My audience is professional hacks. and there’s thousands and thousands of ‘em

You all want to matter so much, you’d do anything to say “I wrote that”.

Hacks. See you at my new blog coming soon.

Oh, you’ll find it.

HACKS!

By Don Imus

August 28, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Everyone makes mistakes.

By RE

August 28, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

My wife just sent me a funny e-mail:

A public school teacher was arrested this morning at John F.Kennedy International Airport as he attempted to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule and a calculator. At a morning press conference, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said he believes the man is a member of the notorious Al-gebra movement. He did not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction. “Al-gebra is a problem for us,” Gonzales said. “They desire solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in a search of absolute value. They use secret code names like ‘X’ and ‘Y’ and refer to themselves as ‘unknowns’, but we have determined they belong to a common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country. As the Greek philanderer Isos Celes used to say, ‘There are 3 sides to every triangle’.” When asked to comment on the arrest, President Bush said, “If God wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, He would have given us more fingers and toes.” White House aides told reporters they could not recall a more intelligent or profound statement by the president.

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Understandably dust ball would rather dwell on the vick issue right now…diversions are good, no matter what the issue. Personally I’m sick of Vick…

Sick of Vick! Sick of Vick! Sick of Vick! Yes what he did was horrible…a real crime against nature…yes he should be reasonably punished…everyone needs to learn consequences for their behavior…um…even if they are republican…and yes, we should move on…the news isn’t so slow that we have to dwell on this one man’s warped life…there are so many warped individuals out there to harp on…why does America need a perpetual Anna Nicole? I don’t get it.

By Standing Tall

August 28, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

@@ 10:14- I can’t preach to Vick, now can I? Liberals won’t stand for that.

We fellow liberals would die for you to have the right to preach til you’re blue in the face, sweetie. We’d also die to insure that you aren’t allowed to manipulate our society and it’s laws so as to FORCE your audacity on us or our children in venues like schools and courthouses that we also pay for and are held captive auduence in!

Step down off your soapbox, Chicken Little, nobody here has nailed you to a cross and no one wants to!!!

People who crassly use and manipulate religious belief and wear it on their sleeves like so much cheap embroidery, make me want to puke up my toe-nails. If I had this weasel for a collective role-model of what it means to be religious, I’d probably be worshipping Beelzebub.

For any doubters out there: This POS appears NOT to be a genuine Christian. Real Christians let go and let God. They have no need to campaign mortally for answers to their prayers, they have turned their prayers over and are humble before the decisions of our maker.

The experience of “Letting Go and Letting God” is very LIBERATING and those that have not genuinely experienced it are pathetic shadow-wraiths of those who have.

By Rusty

August 28, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Mike,

You are in denial.

By @@

August 28, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Standing Tall:

(((The experience of “Letting Go and Letting God” is very LIBERATING.)))

I guess you missed this part of my post.

(((My forgiveness is there for them, but the “win” is up to them. I have no control over whether they choose to win what exactly?)))

You see, I’m not as presumptuous as you are. My forgiveness doesn’t gain redemption for Vick. His has to be a personal pursuit.

Question for you ST. If you are in favor of separation of church and state, how do you feel about the availability of religious instruction and/or counseling in federal or state prisons?

By Standing Tall

August 28, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

As long as such counseling is at their behest and is not linked to good time or other manipulators, I’m all for it and I think it is a great boon to bring the fallen into the service of the maker. Can’t be forced or required, though. It must be genuinely desired. How about you?

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Wow,

there are some crazy mixed up people on this blog.

Now I am accused of supporting a soccer player (Danny Heatly?) whom I have never mentioned. Nope, never.

Then there are others, who are tired of hearing about Vick. But the cartoon of the day shows Vick and a dog. Better tell Luckovich your preferences as this is his blog.

By RE

August 28, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Democratic party= the big tent party

Republican party= the big closet party

By JustPlainStupid

August 28, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Vietnam — Kent State Iraq — ??

What’s it gonna take to get out of Iraq?

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Study: US preparing ‘massive’ military attack against Iran

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Clinton hurt the institution of the presidency and contributed to a general disintegration of respect americans feel for our institutions.

And I blame the man. He was a grave disappointment to me personally and I think we blew the big chance resurrected so many years after JFK.

But Bush has given the oval office the coup de grace, and stuck the sword in and twisted it with relish.

The presidency and maybe our country is dead. We have never been so close to mercenary backed revolution in our history. The right is so hypocritical that the left feels it can only revolt. The attorney general was the sword bush used to finish off the bull, literally. Wall street will tumble if the perception of no-confidence becomes ubiquitous.

Or we can just crack open a tall cold one, shake our heads, and say, “Those darn Repudlickans, you cant be glib with them, and you cant be gay without them”, or some other such bit that I refuse to work out just so you hacks can steal it.

HACKS!

By Standing Tall

August 28, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

One last thought, @@, this blog is slower than Christmas. My view has nothing to do with the seperation of church and state doctrine. It has everything to do with how salvation may be achieved. Salvation can not be forced (sounds like one of those IRAQ metaphors?) it can only be desired, earned, and asked for.

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

How about the cat who drove his buddy home drunk and didn’t realize his buddy’s head was decapitated by a high tension telephone pole wire that struck his buddy’s as he leaned out the window so drunk.

A jogger found the headless body still leaning out the window of the truck in the morning. The police rousted the drunk driver at his home in bed. The police found the head along the route that the drunk driver had used returning from the bar.

I knew this cat, man. He was at a X-mas party at my house.

I also knew a returning Iraqi war veteran who killed his wife and himself from the sudden infantry death syndrome that seems to be epidemic among our troops these days.

Something’s up. Something we need to get a handle on, before it’s too late.

You people are real clever writers, with flowery prose, but your nose is stuck up your own azz smelling something else besides flowers, and pretending not to steal my material.

HACKS!

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Standing tall is right. It doesn’t matter what you blog, no matter how stupid, the right isn’t going to respect us or let us get away with legalized pot, or naked chicks in church, or nothing. There’s only one thing we can do…..ROAD TRIP!!!!

When the blogging gets tough……………the tuff get blogging! who’se with me?

Let’s do it!!!!

By Standing Tall

August 28, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Rove*- If that what puts your congregation in touch, Dude, I’ll have to turn that one over. LOL

Thanks for your humor. Sorry to be a wet blanket.

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

GOPpler GAYdar.

Hack that please. (the bits write themselves with this angle. Spread this. It’s effective counter propaganda and anti-campaign sloganeering.

ISAIDHACKIT!!!

By getalife

August 28, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

“11 Bushies have resigned since Democrats began investigating.”

A huge victory for accountabilty for the Dems.

Investigations lead to resignations but should lead to incarcerations.

w’s cronyism and ignoring the rule of laws will lead to tweaking our democracy.

New laws should be written to stop w’s type of disaster.

Looks like we have the gop freak show back in the news again.

At least, he was not wearing diapers.

Geez.

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

ITN- @12:53 - Holy Mother of God!!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 28, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

-=-

Seriously —

If you have ever gone Hunting, Fishing or even to the Zoo, how can you say you are better to animals than Vick?

We won’t even get into Dog Racing, Horse Racing, Circus acts, or the horse drawn carriage downtown Atlanta.

Humans abuse and use animals. Vick was caught excessivly abusing animals and will be punished. But that the end folks. There is very few laws stopping abuse or even describing what constitutes abuse. The kids that set the puppy on fire and the kids that microwaved the puppy were far more evil than Vick, yet they got a slap on the hand for their crimes.

Should Vick remain in sports? No! — he is no longer worthy of being called a role model and I certainly would not want my kids to admire him. There are far better people in this world with up-coming talent that should now be given his job!

-=-

Andy the Duh-Mass

About those “Kymer Rouge” you like to bring up way too often.. Now just how did that minor non-inportant faction of communist wannabes become so all powerful as to kill so many cambodians and take over a country again?

The answer is in my post yesterday at Wooten’s Wall of Shame!

Cheers’

Thomas/PNAC

By N-GA

August 28, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

I suspect that Gonzo will spend the next 16 months working full time on GWB’s presidential pardons for administration officials. And there are plenty of wingnuts who will gladly subsidize the cost.

I’ll say it before anyone else: “Well Clinton did it, too.”

By Paul

August 28, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

N-GA 1:27

????

Pardons, I thought, were for those convicted of crimes, or in the case of Marc Rich, indicted and facing trial.

One may disagree with the policies and methods of some administration officials, or think it’s a crime they put policies into place then waltzed away in pursuit of big bucks, but, hey, that’s politics, not criminal conduct. Unless there’s a statute somewhere…

And I rather doubt the current Pres will be real keen on pardoning drug dealers, people who sell out the US and such. No matter how high the bribe. Er, contribution. Er, library building fund.

So to me, it’s not so much the “what” was done to merit a pardon - it’s the “for whom.”

Oh, and I located some Tavel - the CHAPOUTIER TAVEL ROSE BEAUREVOIR and the GUIGAL TAVEL ROSE - thx.

By Can't Resist

August 28, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science.

The new element has been named “Bushcronium.” Bushcronium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an Atomic mass of 311.

These 311 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Since Bushcronium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.

A minute amount of Bushcronium causes one reaction to take over 4 days to complete when it would normally take less than a second.

Bushcronium has a normal half-life of multiples of 4 years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.

In fact, Bushcronium’s mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes. This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Bushcronium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as “Critical Morass.”

When catalyzed with money, Bushcronium activates Foxnewsium, an element which radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has 1/2 as many peons but twice as many morons

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 28, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton: Fat campaign “contributions” from a fake address, traced back to the Chinese, again.

“Culture of Corruption” indeed.

Question remains: After this “woman” wins the democrat nomination, will there be enough time before the general election for us to list all of her law breaking, bribe taking, abuses of power and all the other unlawful acts that “she” has committed and ruin her campaign?

I say we go for it.

Vote for Clinton in your state primary, Cons.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Duh

Maybe Pres Bush could add Hillary to his “Pardons” list?

just a thought in the spirit of bipartisanship -

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Paul @1:44 -“And I rather doubt the current Pres will be real keen on pardoning drug dealers, people who sell out the US and such.”

Why don’t we just wait and see, shall we… tee hee…can’t wait for freakin’ ‘08!!

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Oh yes you did Dusty!! I can’t remember what the subject was at the time; but you went into some big song and dance about the difference between his (heatley) getting off and some other guy. Anyway, I can’t find it now; so I can’t prove it.

However, very clever of you!! You completely DIDN’T answer any of my questions. You changed the subject, conveniently rearranged some thoughts and voila! No answering of Debbie’s question!! You rascal! You’re good. Not as good as Gonzalez; but good in your own way!!

By AmVet

August 28, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Andy, I have extremely little interest in your inane accusations and rantings about homosexuality. And frankly I know that my opinions are also irrelevant.

It exists and no matter how much you hate that fact, it has been a reality of humanity since before the ancient Greeks.

That is NOT the issue. And if you had ANY guts you would admit it.

Typically though, you’ll say anything and everything to dance around the relevant issue - the one that Bosch noted so well in his 11:27.

This fake family values position, as exemplified by this very senior Republican Senator and numerous others just like him, lose what tiny credibility it has when it is so vigorously and hypocritically proclaimed by such enormous liars.

Lying, deceit, hypocrisy.

Apparently, to you and to others on the extreme right, these are not significant issues. But who someone is sleeping with sure is.

Your claim that I “gleefully trampled over this man” is a perfect example of this unreasoned lying and deceit. It didn’t happen.

And this: {I just simply AGREED that gay people seem to do a lot of weird things, like date transsexual hookers, lurk in public restrooms, call themselves “Conservatives.”}

Agreed with whom? Yourself? Not me.

News flash Andy. There are gay neo-cons! There are debauched gay neo-cons!! There are lying, deceitful, debauched gay neo-cons!!!

And your inability to deal with that is another of the testaments to your unmistakable paranoia and a near complete lack of a realistic world view.

Perhaps he too will find redemption not to mention a life-long pension courtesy of the American tax payer.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot

Well, my speculation stands corrected. He’s already issued over a hundred pardons - including to people involved with drugs. But they had all served their sentences.

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Debbie - you have just been “dusted”…don’t worry, you’ll get used to it.

By Can't Resist

August 28, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

No problem duh,

lots and lots of libs will be crossing over during the primary to vote for Ron Paul

what a fun election cycle we have ahead of us!

By Thank GOD They're FREE at Last!

August 28, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

BAGHDAD - More than 1 million pilgrims were ordered to leave the Shiite holy city of Karbala on Tuesday and police imposed a curfew after two days of violence — including raging gunbattles between rival militias — claimed at least 35 lives during a religious festival.

Bringing savages religious freedom the GOP way. Stir em up, then if you can’t shut em up, lock em up!

By getalife

August 28, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

CNN reports a few seconds of w’s lies on the escalation, then cuts to the Iraq government spokesman who said their government are in the last throes.

cheney was right.

dick was talking about the Iraq government not the insurgency.

Geez.

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight@2:07

You are absolutely wrong. I have never watched a hockey game nor mentioned Danny Heatley. I think you are either mistaken, lying or confusing me with someone else. The fact remains, I have never mentioned Danny Heatly EVER.

As to answering your questions, I don’t usually unless you accuse me of lying. Since you are an anti-war protestor while your husband is in the military serving overseas, I don’t care to exchange ideas with you. Say whatever comes to your mind. I am not interested.

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 28, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

{{{{By AmVet August 28, 2007 2:13 PM It exists and no matter how much you hate that fact, it has been a reality of humanity since before the ancient Greeks.}}}}

So has murder and any other sin but that does not make it right.

{{{{News flash Andy. There are gay neo-cons!}}}}

I read an article the other day where the Taliban, during their sweeps of neighborhoods to enforce Islamic law on the residents, would rape pre teenage boys that they found.

Now I don’t know about you but I consider the Taliban to be beneath reprehensible, and very deserving of the United States army killing them en masse.

But their is much more than just having a gay thing for young boys involved here, these dudes are forcing their laws upon people but consider themselves above those same laws.

This is no better than Congressman Craig or for that matter, Hillary Clinton, who views Americans as so many dimwits and dolts who will fawn over her regardless of how corrupt she may be.

No, these are not Republican or democrat issues, nor are they liberal versus Conservatives. These people are sick in the head, living fake sordid little lives, who I don’t think are capable of defining their political persuasion with any sense of reality at all.

If they cannot be honest with themselves, how can they be honest with us?

We need to be gone with them.

By AmVet

August 28, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

{Clinton hurt the institution of the presidency and contributed to a general disintegration of respect Americans feel for our institutions.}

{And I blame the man. He was a grave disappointment to me personally and I think we blew the big chance resurrected so many years after JFK.}

{But Bush has given the oval office the coup de grace, and stuck the sword in and twisted it with relish.}

I completely agree.

Unquestionably, like some before him, Clinton misused his position in numerous ways, but worse, seemed to show a shocking lack of respect for it.

BUT, at least most rational Americans agree that he was a pretty effective President and did an at least adequate job of leading the country.

His follower in office though took that disrespect to new and previously unimaginable lows.

And I feared as much when I saw the men who made up his Cabinet and advisory staff.

AND most rational Americans would agree that he has been the complete antithesis of an effective President.

But I disagree with this: {The presidency and maybe our country is dead.}

This nation has endured a withering Civil War, two incredibly bloody World Wars, imminent nuclear war with Khrushchev, Viet Nam and Watergate. It will survive this short lived neo-con excuse for governance.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty

I also, at times, get you mixed up with someone else. No offense meant. Heck, sometimes I even get myself confused with someone else.

I toasted you the other night - had cooked up something interesting (an Indian dish, I believe) and toasted to “adventuresome cooks, or those who wish to be.” The other day Bosch, Midori and I were having a nice discussion about Iron Chef, FoodTV and such. There is hope!

Do ya’ think maybe Ahmadinejad likes to cook? Like it or not, he appears headed that way - his goose, anyway!

By Midori

August 28, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Men’s room arrest reopens questions about Sen. Larry Craig

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Civil unions between male couples existed around 600 years ago in medieval Europe, a historian now says.

By @@

August 28, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Standing Tall @ 12:59:

(((It has everything to do with how salvation may be achieved. it can only be desired, earned, and asked for.)))

That was my point when addressing Doom. An individual’s redemption/salvation has nothing to do with MY forgiveness, and I cannot attain it for them.

Why you responded so “judgmentally” is another thing that is beyond my control.

(((People who crassly use and manipulate religious belief and wear it on their sleeves like so much cheap embroidery, make me want to puke up my toe-nails. If I had this weasel for a collective role-model of what it means to be religious, I’d probably be worshipping Beelzebub.)))

I didn’t know that my refusing to assume the role of the creator in Vick’s “salvation” was crass and cheap.

(((This POS appears NOT to be a genuine Christian. Real Christians let go and let God. They have no need to campaign mortally for answers to their prayers, they have turned their prayers over and are humble before the decisions of our maker.)))

(((The experience of “Letting Go and Letting God” is very LIBERATING and those that have not genuinely experienced it are pathetic shadow-wraiths of those who have.)))

As a lowly human in the midst of worldly endeavors, I can question Vick’s motives, but hope for his redemption. Heck, the evolutionists would argue that Vick’s behavior is indicative of the alpha male in a pack of wild dogs, but it is evolution that you prefer to be taught in schools.

I’ve always said that I can accomodate both evolution/science and creationism/faith in my thinking. It is the evolutionists who are divine in their protection of sound or not so sound science. Again, I have confidence in the student’s ability to choose.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Duh, “We need to be gone with them.” WTF? Surely you don’t mean we need to be rid of homosexuals. Hopefully, you just meant that we need to be rid of those who are not honest with themselves and hypocritically preach “morals” while at the same time are giving it up in public restrooms like common w*******.

Those who try and impose laws upon us, a majority of whom are not sexual deviants like themselves, and yet break those laws while giving it up in public restrooms like common w*******.

Duh, have you ever read “The Kite Runner?” That book would really make you weep.

By By the Short-Hairs

August 28, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Tuesday that a power vacuum is imminent in Iraq and said that Iran was ready to help fill the gap.

Anybody else think that THIS little goober is trying to goad OUR little goober into embarrassing America again? King George loves to get his toy soldier set out and, now, the whole world knows he can be led around by his short-hairs.

To be continued: Is Ahmadinejad even dumber than our own dummy or does Gonzo George go for it and reclaim the title?

By mm

August 28, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Duh,

What is your fascination/fixation with Hillary Clinton?

She’s a loser and if she wins the Dem nomination it will be a shame. I think if she does, it will give the ulta-loser GOP candidate a better chance to win the WH. But that’s what you’re counting on, right?

My only hope is that someone better than the current crop of candidates the Dems and GOP have trotted out will join the race.

We as a nation must stop letting these 2 parties dictate our choice for president.

The candidates for both parties are pathetic.

By Doom understands the confusion Paul

August 28, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The reason you got Dusty mixed up with someone else is because she posts under multiple IDs. She is also @@, and maybe even Buy Danish. She’s probably not Danish, but it is very easy to confuse her with other characters on this blog because of the identical types of posts.

By With respect to the "Sinners can't win with @@" comment

August 28, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

That was Doom speaking to you at 9:53. I forgot to salutate.

Just thought you’d like to know @@(Dusty).

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Doom

Thanks, but the confusion arose because I was trying to keep straight the Stratfor references, the gardening, cooking and swimming pool discussions. Not sure about the multiple ID theory - there seems to be enough consistency of style within ID to call that into question -

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Paul - I enjoyed that conversation too and I LOVE Indian food! Yummy!

AmVet, I think religion gets in the way of most things (obviously), many things that are just natural, human behavior, many times, religion makes them into something bad.

I find it odd how people will make laws about sexual issues that most normal people wouldn’t participate in, because it is not natural. There are simple laws of nature that most people follow that are not learned or obeyed because it is a human invented law, they obey them because it goes against nature therefore making them, simply wrong.

For example, pornography. Most forms of pornography are completely horrific, I don’t need a law to tell me not to participate in that. I don’t need a law to make me NOT want to have sex in a public restroom with a stranger.

I know there are freaks out there who rape children for pleasure, but those deviants will do it regardless of a LAW. And don’t get me wrong, we obviously NEED laws to protect children, so that when these freaks are caught, they will go to jail.

However, people who participate in lewd acts are going to do it regardless of the law - and those who usually are yelling about it the loudest, in my opinion, are the ones who are really just scared of themselves, like they are talking themselves out of it somehow - like when you are trying to talk yourself out of doing something tempting (I will not eat that cake, I will not eat that cake), if that makes sense.

And yes, they are completely misguided by their religious beliefs, the more conservative religions view sex as evil and bad, and when they have sexual urges, instead of viewing it as natural and human they see themselves as bad, and they usually get morphed into something much more vile (like paying for and getting blow jobs in public restrooms at airports).

By @@

August 28, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

(((That was Doom speaking to you at 9:53. I forgot to salutate.)))

Alright Doom, you’re forgiven, :-) but don’t expect a confession from me.

I am not Dusty or Buy Danish. I’m just @@.

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 28, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{By mm August 28, 2007 2:49 PM Duh, What is your fascination/fixation with Hillary Clinton?}}}}

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats August 28, 2007 2:36 PM Hillary Clinton, who views Americans as so many dimwits and dolts who will fawn over her regardless of how corrupt she may be.}}}}

Geez.

{{{{By Bosch August 28, 2007 2:48 PM Duh, “We need to be gone with them.” WTF? Surely you don’t mean we need to be rid of homosexuals.}}}}

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats August 28, 2007 2:36 PM This is no better than Congressman Craig or for that matter, Hillary Clinton No, these are not Republican or democrat issues, nor are they liberal versus Conservatives. These people are sick in the head, living fake sordid little lives, who I don’t think are capable of defining their political persuasion with any sense of reality at all. We need to be gone with them.}}}}

Geez.

Can’t you libs read?

I do not care what political affiliation these corrupt underhanded scoundrels have, they ALL need to be gone.

Can you say the same thing?

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Hello Midori

I had a question for you at 9:59 but you weren’t in so I had to defer to Bosch, N-GA and AmVet. Still couldn’t tell me if it was an urban legend or not - perhaps you can assist? :)

By getalife

August 28, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

duh linking the pervert Craig to Hillary is pathetic.

Own him and Vitter duh, they are your type of people.

Duh.

By The Plain Truth

August 28, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

I agree with Eric. I also prefer dogs to most people. The dogs are more loyal and trustworthy. They do not care what you look like or how much money you have. They just give unconditional love. Compare that to the trash in this world who masquerade as people. That is why so many Atlantans have turned on Mike Vick. It has nothing to do with his race. They just know their dog will not lie to them or try and cover up the truth or be an arrogant self rightous sob. Mike Vick did all of those things.

By Midori

August 28, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Paul,

in reference to your 9:59: don’t quit your day job.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Midori

Not a chance, not a chance at all! LOL!

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Doom… alias almost anybody or anything,

Sorry you cannot keep up. But saying that I am posting as two people is far beyond the range or normality into the range of micrcephalization.

And if I am not a shooting star in your dark world, please forgive me. I do not care. In fact, that is a compliment by any standard.

Carry on, dark one. You are but a smudge in the smog. Celebrate your density.

By @@

August 28, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Dang Paul, I used to be more liberal so I’m gonna respond to your 9:59.

When I read it I couldn’t help but recall conversations among many males at social gatherings.

Lingerie…some men enjoy the tease and some just see sexy lingerie as a waste of money. Same with a white wedding gown.

Let’s get down to the “nitty gritty” if you will.

By mm

August 28, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats August 28, 2007 2:36 PM Hillary Clinton, who views Americans as so many dimwits and dolts who will fawn over her regardless of how corrupt she may be.}}}}

Duh, this is also a perfect description of Bush!!!!!!!

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Midori

Oh, I did give the weird food show on Travel TV another try the other night - pig snouts, fat and eyeballs. The fried fat I could understand - we do all sorts of things with that, but the other… even with a glass of wine I didn’t finish the show.

Dusty

I’d gone this morning when you asked the poll question. Yes, I think it can be reinforcing. Before the last election I was on another blog with a fellow from Connecticut - just knew Lieberman was going to get trounced. I reference a Quinnipiac poll - usually reliable - to question his basis, whereupon I was branded a neocon traitor like Lieberman and the guy just KNEW I was wrong because his friends said so. Polls, too. I just said we’d wait for the election. Never heard from him again.

Polls are dicey - they reflect the fact of a group’s opinion. The opinion is what is - but it could be erroneous (n% of Americans think Saddam engineered 9/11 and n% think Bush did - add those percentages up and shake your head).

By rushncap

August 28, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Paul — your 9:59, I think it’s pretty damn funny. Though in light of today’s (or yesterday’s) news, I bet if that girl married a Republican she wouldn’t get much either, as he’d spend his time trolling public bathrooms…

By Midori

August 28, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

@@,

you like to keep reminding people that you “used to be liberal”, and I must, once again, thank you very much for getting the f*ck out of my party!!

By @@

August 28, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

BTW Dusty, I meant to thank you for the “welcome back”.

I never thought I would see the day I was happy to return to rainy weather. Now I get to cut the grass for only the third time this season.

I’ll have to replace some old established landscaped plantings but they’ll live on in the compost. They’ll serve to green up the new babies in the yard.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

@@

Waste of money? Any correlation to imagination? Ah well, we just hope in those situations the couples’ opinions coincide.

BTW - that’s a great style of joke - just change a noun or two and you can tweak whatever gathering you’re at!

Still trying to figure out the liberal connection in your post. Enjoy the tease = liberal = always hoping things will get better? Waste of money = conservative = “waste of money” is a concept foreign to liberals?

By Midori

August 28, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

what is it with those guys and public restrooms?

can’t they engage in that crap in the privacy of their own homes???

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 2:39,

Ah, so you gave a toast (to me I think) while enjoying Indian food. Well, I hope it was the right “Indian” food. You see, the only food considered Indian that I am familiar with is Native American food. So many summers I have enjoyed it.

The White Mountain Apaches fixed acorn soup which was very good. I think the meat was squirrel but I did not ask.

The Navajo specialty was lamb stew with fried bread (full of fat and delicious). While working with the Hopis, someone brought in paper thin bread made from different shades of corn. Don’t think I have ever seen that anywhere else.

Well, I thought you might be interested in other “Indian” food. If I go to a local Indian restaurant, I am lost!! Likewise with wine. And beer is worse than medicine. Guess I will never make it as a conoisseur.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Midori - Bosch

I went to see Ratatouille at the cinema last weekend - been out for a while and I highly recommend it. Great animation and a great story line. Foodies’ll love it.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 28, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Duh says: “I read an article the other day where the Taliban, during their sweeps of neighborhoods to enforce Islamic law on the residents, would rape pre teenage boys that they found. But their is much more than just having a gay thing for young boys involved here, these dudes are forcing their laws upon people but consider themselves above those same laws.”

Of all of the possible things that could be gleaned from this story, hypocrisy is obviously the most important. Clearly, had the Taliban imprisoned, brutalized or executed people accused of immoral acts then everything would have been fine because they wouldn’t have been hypocrites. Good catch there Duh!

I’m sure that liberals would ignore the whole hypocrisy angle altogether and go right to the issue of the propriety of enforcing religious codes on the people by the Government. Of course, Duh and I support religious rules, codes and punishments be enforced by the Government as outlined in the Bible i.e, death for homosexual acts. If God says “kill ‘em” who am I to argue? Just as long as the executioner isn’t gay everything would be fine.

Liberals probably look at the Taliban and Iran, etc… and see in the Muslim world what the Western world took centuries to finally rid itself of: the intermingling of church and state. Conservatives like Duh and I merely see, not that it is wrong to impose your religion on the populace, but simply that Muslims pray to the wrong God. And that’s the real difference between you scumbag libs and us God-fearing REAL Americans.

“An eye for and eye” right Duh? When can we give these teenage victims of the Taliban the opportunity to ‘get even?’ You give these teens a bunch of lube and let them go to town on those guys and I’ll bet they’ll think twice about doing that again. And therein lies the wisdom of the Old Testament and why it should be the law of the land.

RWNJIFG

By Rome Wolves Rule

August 28, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Midori and Paul, I didn’t get to continue our conversation on swallow nests from the other day (something was wrong with my computer and I couldn’t post), anyway, I have to say, that is the grossest thing I have ever heard of.

Don’t you wonder sometimes how certain things were discovered to be food, I mean, someone had to be almost to the point of starvation to pick up a squid and say, “I’m going to eat this.”

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

duh -“Conservatives. These people are sick in the head, living fake sordid little lives, who I don’t think are capable of defining their political persuasion with any sense of reality at all. We need to be gone with them”…

He’s talking about himself again, Bosch.

Midori - I have often wondered the same thing…these people don’t have cars?…nasty toilet seats are a turn on maybe? don’t know.

By mm

August 28, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

The Republican controlled Florida state congress moved the state’s presidential primary up to Feb (in hindsight, another underhanded political ploy). Now the Dems are their own worst enemy

By getalife

August 28, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

I have no idea Midori but I did learn today that if I am in an airport mens room and the guy next to me taps his foot and runs his hand under the stall, there is a gop pervert in the other stall.

Geez.

By @@

August 28, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

(((thank you very much for getting the f*ck out of my party!!)))

A wee bit strong ^^^ there Midori, but you’re welcome. The only problem is I still vote Democrat in all local and some state elections.

You’ll just have shoulder that burden.

Paul:

You addressed it to liberals. I took the liberty to respond.

Hoping things will get better if you throw money at it?

Does it work?

Never when the government is involved. Politicians make lousy mates/bedfellows.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Dusty

It was the other. But I remembered the “connection” from your earlier posts. I’ve had a couple of cookbooks of Native American dishes - getting some ingredients can be a challenge and substitutes just don’t work. That is an unusual, and tremendously fortunate, experience you had.

I used to live near a couple of reservations in the northeast - but the old ways and style just weren’t there. Same in southern Cal. But in the travels through the southwest - the isolation helped preserve the traditions.

Let the others do the cooking - just eat and enjoy. So you don’t care for a particular meal? Big deal! It’s just one meal!

Great meal = fantastic cook. Lousy meal = lousy recipe!

By Paul

August 28, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Rome Wolves Rule 3:46

[[Don’t you wonder sometimes how certain things were discovered to be food, I mean, someone had to be almost to the point of starvation to pick up a squid and say, “I’m going to eat this.”]]

There’s a great movie out on DVD - Caveman - 1981. Ringo Starr, Shelly Long, Dennis Quaid - it’s like “Airport” in prehistoric times. They had one guy they’d always make eat the new stuff. Hilarious setups.

@@,

Sadly, very sadly, the previous Congress did much the same - except instead of new program starts (which never go away) they did one-time earmarks. Lots and lots and lots of them. They may be one-time shots, but the sum of the obligations is staggering. My good mood’s about to turn…

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 28, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife August 28, 2007 3:15 PM duh linking the pervert Craig to Hillary is pathetic. Own him and Vitter duh, they are your type of people. Duh.}}}}

al-Gitmo: Allow me to clarify your comments, if I may.

See you see a homosexual propositioning another man as a perverted act, in you own words, and you find it to be far worse than stock fraud, illegal campaign contributions, obstruction of justice, vandalism of the White House, illegal steering of federal tax dollars to campaign contributors and all of the other crimes that Hillary has committed, I would list more but my arm hurts already.

So you really do loathe homosexuals, I see.

By DebbieDoRight

August 28, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

[[Since you are an anti-war protestor while your husband is in the military serving overseas, I don’t care to exchange ideas with you. Say whatever comes to your mind. I am not interested.]]

Oh Boo Hoo. Dusty, with your cold feckless nature, you have just broken my heat!! I will never be able to “talk” with you again and hear all of your parroted Dumbyaisms again!! Oh Boo Hoo hooooooo.

I may never get to hear you say to me again the pre programmed idiot hogwash about how much the soldiers love Dumbya and how good they have it being crippled and laid up in sub-standard hospitals!! Oh the pain!!!

Oh woe is me, woe is me…….!! Dusty does not wish to speak with me again. Somehow, I will try to carry on with my life; I will try to forge ahead without your daily dose of bush sh#t spewing from your keyboard. I will try to remember the good times. The time when you told me that we need to “Trust OUr President”. Sigh. Those were the days.

Good bye dear Dusty. Goodbye. I will always remember your “You can’t be against the president and for the troops” sermons! Oh how I will miss them.

Oh boo hooo hoooo……!!!!!

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 28, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

I held this as long as I could to get all you sick hypocrite liberals on record, finally:

It should come as no surprise that a men’s restroom at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport has become a playground for those who want to masturbate in public and have sex with men they don’t even know. After all, Atlanta is a hotbed of homosexual activity and public restrooms are favorite gathering places of many homosexuals.

The pot calling the kettle black, geez.

Sticking up for them too:

{{{{An Atlanta TV station recently reported that no public masturbator had yet sexually assaulted anyone in an Atlanta Airport. But some were watching small children urinate in order to become sexually aroused.}}}}

By Dusty

August 28, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Paul,

My new son-in-law (from South America) has not helped me in trying new food items. He even eats the eyes from those big fish he buys at the Farmers Market. Even my daughter, the adoring bride, looks a little queasy at the mention of those slippery eyeballs. I haven’t asked him to being any for me to try. That is one adventure I can do without.

By Enough is Enough

August 28, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

OK, is Duh really as strange as he appears to be?

Wow, I can only hope he doesn’t live near kids.

That guy needs to be on somebodies watch list.

By getalife

August 28, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Geez duh.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Paul, That Rome name was me. I have a friend visiting that lives there and was using my computer, forgot to change my name back. How funny.

Did you ever watch that show Northern Exposure? I loved that show, but there was an episode where a character (Chris) was doing a radio show and he said that about lobsters, “Do you wonder who the first person was that ate a lobster?”

That’s always stuck with me. It was funny.

By IN THE NEWS

August 28, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Alberto Gonzales: Tough on Crime? Hardly.

By getalife

August 28, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

He said he did nothing wrong but pleaded guilty anyway.

He should have done a Vitter apology.

Blaming it on the press. Said he is not gay.

He will not run after that crap.

Geez.

By AmVet

August 28, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

DDR, for me this whole issue of “you can’t be against the war because…” is in some strange ways so surreal that it reminds me of those days back when Viet Nam was raging.

I remember hearing about mothers and fathers actually disowning their children for being against that war.

And I remember the Ronald Reagans and Richard Nixons just loving it.

For me this is one of the most perplexing and disappointing aspects of the pro-war movement today.

And that is that they have apparently learned so very little from the mistakes of the past. And in many ways, this single trait is the most defining aspect of the neo-con philosophy to me.

And I’m not talking about this administration’s total ineptitude in this matter. Nor their cloaked and idiotic ideas about democracy in the Middle East, etc as a reason.

Though yet again, the American people have been deceived by men of very questionable ethics (and in this case intelligence) and sold a bill of goods in the name of American interests. (They are, I’m sure, acting in somebody’s best interests, but somehow I don’t think it’s you or me).

I’m talking about the followers of these men, who 40 years later, again trot out the endless clap-trap regarding patriotism, cowardice, etc. as though their self-righteous, infallible opinion was written in stone! And who never stop trying to speak for others, no matter how intentionally misleading and no matter how ignorant they appear.

By Bosch

August 28, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Oh and Paul - I love that movie, Airplane, my favorite line:

“What do you make of this? [it was a report]”

“Well, I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pteradactyl”

Anytime my sister is around and someone says, “What is this?” We both at the same time will say, “Well, it could be a hat, or a broach, or a pteradactyl.” Right on cue.

By @@

August 28, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

Pardon me Duh.

For those of you here who just don’t get the Townhall link:

(((But some may be surprised that, since December, police officers have arrested and charged 11 men with public indecency in the Atlanta airport. That is because there has been little talk about the arrests. And that, in turn, may have something to do with the fact that “Dirty Nearly Dozen” includes University of North Carolina Professor Dr. Hugh Tilson and Spelman College Professor Lev T. Mills.)))

Defending it, promoting it, encouraging it in our schools perpetuates it, cultivates it, refines it.

In summation….

you liberals don’t see your reflection when you look in the mirror, do you?

You’re vampires.

By James Dobson

August 28, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

We are enrolling the good Senator in my new gay conversion therapy for adults. Its modeled after my gay conversion method for children.

The child technique is this …”“”Meanwhile, the boy’s father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son’s maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.”“

Now of course we can’t use Sen Craig’s father for the shower routine because he is dead, and we can’t use Andy/Duh because he is too small. Fear not there are millions of other Republicans that will quickly volunteer!

James Dobson

Focus on the Family Jewels

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 28, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

@@,says: “Defending it, promoting it, encouraging it in our schools perpetuates it, cultivates it, refines it.”

That’s right libs you should shut up about Sen. Craig and Rep. Foley and Sen. Vitter, its all your fault anyway. Its like the drug dealer blaming the addicts for their addictions. We ARE the accountability party and we know who is to be held accountable…its you.

RWNJIFG

By AmVet

August 28, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Yet again, in an almost desperate attempt to deflect attention away from a lying Republican senior US Senator soliciting sex, someone predictably trots out a red herring.

I swear to you-know-who that some of you do not even understand, or worse, pretend to not understand the definition of the word, so here it is:

Hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

I wish I had more time, I could find some obscure articles about truckers in (pick a state) doing the same at truck stops. Maybe they could then be tortured to confess if they were Democrats or Republicans.

IT DOESN’T MATTER!

We all know, there are perverts (IMHO that is an accurate term) everywhere! There always have been!

Fortunately, they are in a minuscule minority and generally they are your typical garden variety nobodys. NOT A LYING HYPOCRITICAL UNITED STATES SENATOR who has loudly and longly excoriated gays and extolled the virtues of family, etc, so slavishly lapped up by the religious right and other reactionary neo-cons!

Wake the f()ck up! Is this what you want from your government? Do you expect nothing better?!!

By getalife

August 28, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

I am sure the gay community is loving Senator Mens Room Freak.

The gop should force him to resign for their ignorant base of haters.

By getalife

August 28, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

“Several federal agencies are investigating a widening network of criminal cases involving the purchase and delivery of billions of dollars of weapons.”

We will need more fed prisons with all the crimes committed in Iraq.

Geez.

By Corky Cobb

August 28, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Hey @@, how many men in Atlanta were arrested for sexual assault last week? Are all straight men responsible? Should we ban straight sex?

How many men were watching women strip naked in a bar last week?

How many men were watching porn on the internet? How many of them were trying to pick up underage girls?

By Midori

August 28, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

@@,

Ve vant to dreenk your blud

ROFL!!!

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Sen. Craig blamed his homosexual overtures in a airport men’s room to a black undercover cop on the Bossanova, with it’s magic spell. Yes, He blamed it on the Bossanova, that he knew so well…….

I’ve heard enough from the Repudlickan Party.

Join me, friends. We’ve got a country to save, and a world to convince.

By Vote Republican

August 28, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Fifty million airport glory hole users can’t be wrong!

By Corky Cobb

August 28, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Hey @@ and Dull, do you think all the prostitutes walking the streets of Atlanta are using motel rooms??

How many of them are giving oral sex to Johns in their cars? In public?

How many famous straight men? college professors? Preachers? have been caught with a prostitute?

Would you post their names here?

By raisedanidiot

August 28, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

that’s the first time James Dobson ever made me laugh…god I hate that guy!

I’m outa here…busy day…smoke em if ya got em

By @@

August 28, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

Midori:

(((Ve vant to dreenk your blud)))

I’m glad you found it funny. It was intended to be so that’s an Oops! made ‘ya laugh?

Corked Cobb:

How many? I guarantee you it’s more than you would have found fifty years ago. There’s an awful lot of freedoms in the media and the internet today.

Do you want to restrict them in the interest of our children or do you want to pay for them? Do you want our kids to pay for them personally or financially?

Teenage pregnancies? STDs? Psychological counseling?

Do you support government funded healthcare to provide for all those sexual freedoms you don’t want restricted?

Later?

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Craig blamed it on the Bossanova, with it’s magic spell, yes, he blamed it on the Bossanova, that he knew so well…….

Hillary ‘08. Enough nonsense, eh?

By Midori

August 28, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

@@,

I find “YOU” funny.

By anderson

August 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

to whom ever decides what is on the front page.I would like to see how many of our soldiers and Marines have died in Iraq on a daily basis as well as a running total. PLUS,a dollar amount:daily and a running total!ON the FRONT PAGE!I understand this is not as important as vic and the other BS.But, please put it ther for one week just to see what happens.

By Paul

August 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Dusty 4:28

Had a friend on assignment in Argentina. To honor him, the cook prepared - roast guinea pigs. Really. He had pictures. Appreciating other cultures is one thing. Participating is quite another.

Bosch 4:37

Not too many years ago lobsters were considered junk, were captured, ground and used as fertilizer.

Airport - I was kinda partial to “Surely, you can’t mean that!” “Yes, I do. And stop calling me Shirley.”

‘Nuther Movie: Leslie Nielsen, Priscilla Presley. Anything’s possible….

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Sen. Craig blamed it on the Bossanova, with it’s magic spell. He blamed it on the Bossanova that he knew so well…..

Enough nonsense.

Hillary 08.

Nothing can stop her now. Those two beers I was paid to give Sen Craig really paid off last June in Minneapolis, eh?

bwa

By Corky Cobb

August 28, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

“Do you support government funded healthcare to provide for all those sexual freedoms you don’t want restricted?”

Who the hell said I don’t want these things restricted?

You know damn good and well the point of my posts. You tried to make all gays look like perverts because of bathroom sex.

Are all straight people pervs because of prostitutes, rapists, strippers, Johns, adulters and so on.

Whose “saving the children” from straight people?

By @@

August 28, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Midori:

(((@@,

I find “YOU” funny.)))

I know, we already talked about it.

Aawww, I’m just yanking your chain M.

No harm, no foul….

By @@

August 28, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Corked Cobb:

I have no interest in what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own domicile, but if we’re going to celebrate, support or encourage it, then we have to recognize the impact it may have on our kids, and the unintended consequences

I believe that homosexuals are more often genetically predisposed, but not always. Sometimes environmental surroundings may come into play. I think bi-sexuality is more often than not socially encouraged.

If a child is born with male and female reproductive organs, I believe that surgery should be put off until the child has some emotional and psychological tie to a specific gender. If that child grows up and has chosen neither, who’s going to push him in one direction or the other?

If one influence wins out over the other and the individual believes he has made a mistake, who’s to blame?

I’m just asking questions here.

By Rovespierre

August 28, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

In a joint news conference today, a the diapered astronaut lady and Sen Craig both pleaded insanity to explain their fudge packing (get it) behavior.

Think the silent majority will buy it?

bwa

blame it on the Bossanova, with it’s magic spell, morons.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 28, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

-=-

Actually you can get Roast Gu1nea pig right here at some south of teh border restaurants in Atlanta! Its called Cuy!

Cuy is the Peruvian name for Guinea pig, but it has been bred to be much larger than your home pet rodent and with more meat. This is often compared to eating rabbit.

But actually I find this to be even more Humourous - if not a bit disgusting.

But now on a serious side - and even more disgusting note..

I would never want to eat here!

Uhhm - Gross!

Cheers’

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 28, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this

{{{{By @@ August 28, 2007 4:47 PM Pardon me Duh. For those of you here who just don’t get the Townhall link: (((But some may be surprised that, since December, police officers have arrested and charged 11 men with public indecency in the Atlanta airport. That is because there has been little talk about the arrests. And that, in turn, may have something to do with the fact that “Dirty Nearly Dozen” includes University of North Carolina Professor Dr. Hugh Tilson and Spelman College Professor Lev T. Mills.)))}}}}

@@: Very well said.

BTW, isn’t rushncrap a college “professor” from North Carolina?

Hmmm.

He did fall strangely silent after your post.

By Maurice

September 7, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

I think they should give him another chance!!!!!!