Mike Luckovich

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Desperate presidents resort to desperate rhetoric — which then calls new attention to their desperation. President Bush joined the club this week by citing the U.S. failure in Vietnam to justify staying on in Iraq.Bush’s comparison of the two conflicts rivals Richard Nixon’s “I am not a crook” utterance during Watergate and Bill Clinton’s “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky,” in producing unintended consequences of a most damaging kind for a sitting president.

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Sick: You are absolutely right, cartoon boy, though you couldn’t be more crass and disgusting, Bush and Conservatives fight for life, liberals fight for death and evil.

Thanks for pointing that out.

~~~~~

Thank you Urinal:

{{{{The third severe drought in the last 20 years, the warmest August on record, every day since July 29 over 90 with seven days over 100. No, global warming and climate change is nothing to worry about. Denial is evidence of our Georgia education system in action.- from the Urinal Vent.}}}}

See, every time that summer comes and we get several above average hot days, right here in the pinko bubble world that is Atlanta, never mind that it was 54 in New York yesterday or that we just had one of the coldest March through July periods in history, the libs are going to start bleating about “global warming,” like vast herds of sheep in the pasture. And with this bleating will come early cold fall like temperatures, as if mother nature is mocking these silly liberals, see al-Gore and his hysterical speeches about “warming” in the midst of record breaking cold weather.

Again, thank you for the unseasonable drop in temperature that you have just brought upon us.

By Hey Mr Duh

August 24, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this

This

””“liberals fight for death and evil.”“”

Makes you a LIAR

By Hey Mr Duh

August 24, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

BTW The rest of your post makes you and IDIOT

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

Sick:

{{{{In Afghan town, Taliban brings peace-printed in Urinal litter box liner, not online}}}}

{{{{Musa Qala, in the north of Helmund province, is unusually peaceful these days. Children are getting ready to attend newly opened schools and farmers in this opium rich region are busy preparing for the autumn planting. “But the Taliban don’t treat people badly, the way they did before. They are very calm and they respect people.Everyone is happy with them.”}}}}

Publishing enemy propaganda now, huh AJC?

It’s too bad we don’t hang people for treason anymore.

1) Opium rich, idyllic farmers planting dope in the field, picture Norman Rockwell, versus last week when you Al Qaeda toady liberals were shrieking at the top of your punk lungs that opium was a sign of U.S. failure. So which is it?

2) Ever occur to you goony propagandists that, prior to this “reporters” visit that most of the townspeople were told to act happy, sort of like our P.O.W.’s were for Jane Fonda in Vietnam, or that the Taliban would kill their children?

3) These are the same people, exact same, that crashed airplanes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

4) When you scumbag liberals make life under the rule of these monsters seem “acceptable” or even desirable to people that have no idea of the real suffering, how many more do you think you just sentenced to live out their lives under this tyranny?

5) Why don’t you go live under Taliban rule if you find it so delightful?

GFY (good for you.)

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

COULD THIS {{{Vacation is all Hastert ever wanted and vacation is all he’ll get now that he is leaving earlier than expected. According to a link at the Daily Kos “An Illinois Republican source tells us former Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) plans to resign November 6 this year instead of finishing out his term. This would create a vacancy and trigger a special election in the 14th District.”}}}

HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS? The Florida Department of Law Enforcement announced today that its criminal investigation into alleged misconduct by Mark Foley is being hampered by the former Republican lawmaker’s refusal to let investigators examine his congressional computers.

By Hey Mr Duh

August 24, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Could you please post all your bull$hit before noon today?

We’d like to wipe up the floor with you and get out a little early today.

By ron

August 24, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

By GodHatesTrash

August 24, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Ron, war is tasteless - and people die.

Why do you hillbillies like war so much?

Trash.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Recently Barack Obama caught hell from across the political spectrum when he said he’d authorize attacks on high-level terrorists in Pakistan even without approval from the Pakistani government. But now, according to documents obtained by the AP, it seems rules of engagement from 2004 authorized Army Rangers units to undertake cross-border raids into Pakistan in pursuit of suspected terrorists.

By ron

August 24, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

I ‘ve attented a war,know all about it.The cartoon is still tasteless.

By Eric

August 24, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Duh, you are Duh-umb or Duh-lusional. Duh-bya is responsible for more deaths in his socalled war on terror than anyone. Four thousand American troops and untold thousands of innocent Iraqis have died for Duh-bya’s misguided adventure. You’re beyound Duh-mb!

By w00t

August 24, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Oh, Andy, how we love you… Wouldn’t you be better off posting your “thoughts” on Humanevents with all the other crazies?

Oh, btw, nice death threat you posted too. It’s too bad we don’t hang people for treason anymore.

Andy, when your only source of income is opium, and you tell them that we’re going to take it away from you, what else do you expect them to do? Just say “okay”? When you threaten someone’s livelihood and their ability to provide for their family, expect blowback. It’s just like what happened when Bremer fired all the Iraqi army.

You don’t know their culture, but when someone provides you with protection and the ability to provide for their family, they will accept it. The difference is, you have the ability to provide for yourself and can yell back. These people are just happy to have the ability to eat and will support anyone that provides food and water.

Actually, 80% of them were Saudis.

When their “democracy” isn’t working, they say, “to hell with democracy, we just want strong leaders!”

Typical tribalism behavior. When you don’t agree with someone, call them a coward and to get out. “People who say such things think they’re being patriotic; in reality they’re acting like animals. Emotional, irrational, herd animals, prone to the fear and flight activated by propaganda.”

By Will Jones

August 24, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Mike, Another great work for the AJC’s readers. Your genius is equal to Herblock’s. Please read David Ray Griffin’s “The New Pearl Harbor.” Bush, beyond any reasonable doubt, committed 9-11. A political “Archimedes” by The People can “leverage” this unfortunate truth into justice for America and posterity.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

{{5) Why don’t you go live under Taliban rule if you find it so delightful?}}

Andy-DUH would have all of America under “Taliban rule” if he had his way about gov’t— c’mon DUH, fess up! You LOVE the idea of Taliban rule in America, dontcha — you salivate over the idea of having rightwing extremists controlling our gov’t and controlling which thoughts and desires are appropriate for all Americans.

DUH, you and your desperate white-bread freedom-haters are gone in ‘08 — Long live freedom-lovers in America!

By saywhat?

August 24, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

Duh stands whatever, jokes are less funny when they have to be explained, but when certain members of the readership are slower than the rest of us, sometimes it just has to be done. HINT:The cartoon is not about fighting for life or death.

It is about fighting for a lost cause based solely ideology, insisting something is so when all evidence is to the contrary. It is about plowing ahead in ones actions and arguments while completely ignoring fact (Schiavo was brain dead and NEVER EVER going to recover as the autopsy PROVED. American military presence will NEVER EVER end a thousand years of ethnic strife in Iraq, as history will PROVE)

Why does the right practice “faith based” policies, where they think something MUST be true simply because they believe it to be or want it to be, despite overwhelming evidence that it ISN’T? That kind of thinking might be admirable in the religious arena, but for US foreign and domestic policy, its just plain stupid.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

OH, and Andy-DUH— GFY…

By gtengineer

August 24, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

ron, The cartoon is brilliant. It shows how the criminal in chief would fight for a brain dead vegetable, but won’t save the lives of our troops who have full lives, families, kids….

Dubya is content to ignore any reason, he simply closes his eyes and pretends he’s a big bad war president.

I think he’s got some kinda picture in his head of himself being an FDR or a Lincoln… lol.

He is well past being a bad president, past being a mockery, past being an embarrassment to the country… he is simply a criminal who deserves the worst.

By Jesus

August 24, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

High Crimes and Misdemeanors on the Republican Campaign Trail

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

When is Bush going to listen to what his generals are telling him about our occupation of Iraq? Will Bush ever stop using our military for his own propaganda tools, week after week? How can Bush keep putting his “legacy” ahead of the interests of America and its military, and still try call himself a patriot?

Marine Gen. Peter Pace, whose term as chairman expires at the end of September, is expected to contend that keeping significantly more than 100,000 troops in Iraq through next year would severely strain the military and compromise its ability to respond to other threats, the newspaper said.

By Sailor

August 24, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

‘the sailor said Andi/e-duh, you’re a fine girl’

I love it when s/he goes on and on about the weather.

The other night we played “golden shower”. S/he thought it was raining!

Such a stupid sweet girl.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS— that link @ 9:21 is too too funny! For the Repugs to start claiming that they are forced to perform b-js… because, because—

“Fearful of being mugged, the awfully jumpy Bob Allen told the police that he cut the blow job deal so that he could reach a guarded security area, the nearest of which was several miles away from him — a plan which resists easy understanding. Maybe Allen hoped the oral sex could somehow stun his adversary?”

ROFLMAO!

By Can't Resist

August 24, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

great billboard

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

[After long denying retirement rumors, Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ) said yesterday he would not seek reelection. “Renzi has been under an ethical cloud ever since a family business was raided earlier this year by the FBI, which is investigating whether he used his federal office for personal gain.”] (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/23/arizona-republican-congressman-to-retire/)

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Great ‘toon. A shiavo callback. Who woulda gone there?

Anyway, the childish posts today reflect the country’s growing uneasiness. We want out. Now. We want it to go away. Today.

But we cant ever leave, and it’s becoming apparent to all of us, and thus, frightened children in denial play games, act out, and post gibberish.

I know you’re all afraid. Our government has done what we thought only possible by a fictional and victorious third reich.

If Germany had won WW2, I always imagined them invading one country after another until they had taken over der verld.

I doubt even Heetler unt his frauline Teetler would have invaded Iraq. Certainly Mussolini and his wife Pussoline would have known better.

But not our brave Captain Bush!!

Yes, Captain Bush. Faster than a swift boat. . Able to dodge subpoenas. Disquised as a mild mannered incumbent he fights his never ending conquest for truth, justice and the american way.

By Buy Danish

August 24, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

DUH,

Thank you for your very incisive comments regarding the Walter Duranty-esqe comments about how charming it is to live under the Taliban these days in the land of milk and honey.

Dummkopf Bosch,

Regarding the Titanic Leftward tilt of American academia - you clearly do not live in a reality based existence. It does not matter how much information you are given, you refuse to see reality for what it is.

I gave you countless examples of segregation at American college campuses, and the willful, agenda driven, destruction of a classic liberal arts education in favor of an “illiberal” education.

There are numerous other examples available to you if you know how to use Google. These facts are indisputable.

Your response? It’s all made up, and presumably every single one of the authors of those pieces who cite specific situations at specific universities are liars.

Tell me something, Bosch. Do you think of America as being an imperialistic, racist, warmongering, and genocidal nation or as primarily an agent of good?

Tell the truth now. Pick the adjectives that resonate with you, or make up some of your own. Think of it as being a stream of consciousness thing.

Oh, and for the record, I have nothing against “higher education”. Indeed, I long for its return.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

The more I read about Ike, the more I appreciate having smart leaders in the White House… too bad the Repugs didn’t want to listen to Ike over the years and learn from a smart man. Not Nixon, not Ray-gun, not Papa Bush nor Bush Jr…

But, then, we all know that Ike really was a Dem, so that makes sense why he was so much smarter than the Repugs:

Ike ignored him, went, saw and, with the keen eye of a five-star general, surveyed the forbidding terrain. This war wasn’t winnable, he determined, at least not without using atomic weapons, not as long as the Chinese were willing to keep on fighting.— He came home and ended the Korean War in about six months with an armistice that is still in effect. In short, he understood that if you can’t win a war, the faster you get out of it the better. He answered criticism from the right wing of his own party by remarking simply, “The war is over, and I hope my son is going to come home soon.”

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

I’ve been patiently waiting for an intelligent response to my comments from the liberals, you know, maybe some proven facts or arguments outlining why I’m wrong, so far this is the closest they’ve gotten to defining what their side stands for:

{{{{By Sailor August 24, 2007 9:26 AM The other night we played “golden shower”. S/he thought it was raining!}}}}

Such brilliance, what awe inspiring wonders you democrats are.

{{{{By w00sie August 24, 2007 8:39 AM Oh, btw, nice death threat you posted too. It’s too bad we don’t hang people for treason anymore.}}}}

Isn’t it funny how the liberals tell us about Bush trampling the Constitution when the government listens into telephone conversations that originate from the countries of our sworn enemies, among other supposed constitutional violations, but their own conduct is somehow not answerable to the very same laws and statutes?:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, —->giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death,<——-

So let’s review:

Al Qaeda terrorists, murderers of innocent women and children are afforded all of the guarantees of American citizenship, but liberal democrats don’t have to adhere to the laws if they don’t want to.

Got that?

By Hey Mr. Dusty

August 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

After your brilliant work yesterday on left wing domination of academia, can we ask you to put in the same effort and take a gander at Titanic right wing dominination in healtcare management, national and international finance - including mortgage lenders, big pharm, big oil and the entire energy industry, insurance industry, credit card industry and government contractors?

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

More about Ike— what a great Dem he was!

he delivered some of the nation’s most crucial military victories. Then as president, he delivered, among other benefits, eight years of peace. (The second volume of his presidential memoirs is titled “Waging Peace.”) No man elected president, except perhaps Grant, knew better how to wage war —- or understood the basic common sense of never getting into a fight you can’t win, or getting into one you can’t get out of.

Will Bush ever “wage peace” around the world? Doubtful he even knows how… he refuses to learn his American history.

By mm

August 24, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Yes ML, Bush and the wingnuts cared more about a brain-dead woman than they do about our troops or the Iraqi people..

I see the GOP congress members are starting to retire (won’t seek re-election). They know if they seek re-election they will receive an a$$ whipping at the ballot box.

Good riddance. The GOP crumbles.

By Sailor

August 24, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Here I am, a USN seaman, and my gal pal calls me a librul. Damn.

Sweetie, be nice. I’m serving, you ain’t - and you never will.

Be prepared to beg even longer tonight.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Danish, Here you go, straight from Cornell:

Cornell’s Committment to Diversity

Did you even bother looking at THEIR website? I can’t speak for all the students at Cornell and certainly do not know all the experiences they’ve had.

But this is from Cornell, more in a minute.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{Do you think of America as being an imperialistic, racist, warmongering, and genocidal nation or as primarily an agent of good?}}

I’ll put my 2-cents in, in case Bosch is unavailable today…

America WAS primarily an agent of good before the 2000 elections, and then the whole Neo-conservative storm hit from the robots in that mindset… now we’re having to extricate those Neo-cons bit by bit and restore sanity to our policies once again.

The Dems Can Wait For ‘08!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Ray Gun? Because of star wars?

By Hey Mr. Duh

August 24, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

You can’t expect an intelligent response to crap.

By REP (restricting everyone's privacy) party sux

August 24, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

DUH—- You really are an idiot. ok if any liberal is guilty of treason (which you can not prove) then so is Bush, and instead of jail he should be immediately put to death as is described in the UCMJ (thats the uniform code of military justice for anyone that never served.)

Then again Bush Sr would just get Jr off it again just like he did about the coke charge, draft dodging and desertion. smh

By Hey Mr Dusty/ Danish

August 24, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Just can’t help it….it like you two are the same,,,

So to Mr Danish

After your brilliant work yesterday on left wing domination of academia, can we ask you to put in the same effort and take a gander at Titanic right wing dominination in healtcare management, national and international finance - including mortgage lenders, big pharm, big oil and the entire energy industry, insurance industry, credit card industry and government contractors?

By RW-(the original)

August 24, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

So now Ike the “Dem” handed over world peace to Kennedy who must have been a war mongering Republican.

Goldie,

Are you having acid flashbacks or did you hit the Chardonnay early today?

M&M’s,

We’d be a lot better off if Congress critters from both parties would realize the founding fathers never intended lifetime members.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

The Utter Uselessness of the Petraeus Report…. ………………. If you think the White House-penned report on Iraq will be anything other than a validation of “the surge” and the Bush administration’s larger strategy, you haven’t been paying attention.

By REP (restricting everyone's privacy) party sux

August 24, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

DUH—- You really are an idiot. ok if any liberal is guilty of treason (which you can not prove) then so is Bush, and instead of jail he should be immediately put to death as is described in the UCMJ (thats the uniform code of military justice for anyone that never served.)

Then again Bush Sr would just get Jr off it again just like he did about the coke charge, draft dodging and desertion. smh

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

And, how prescient the great Ike was about the Middle East:

The United States had no business transforming itself into “an occupying power in a seething Arab world,” and if it ever did so, “I am sure we would regret it.”

Gosh, even Darth Cheney said pretty much the same things as Ike back in ‘94… that is, before he decided to sell to America his war in Iraq, along with his Neo-con pals, with lies like “greeted as liberators”, “cake-walk”, “Iraqi oil will pay for the war”, “no doubt”, “mobile WMD labs”, “aluminum tubes”…

What a lying bunch of criminals that have taken over the Repug Party!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Frightened Children of the Luckovich blog: You are not in danger yet. Dont panic. It’s okay to be childlike. Jesus said to enter the kingdom of heaven, we must all be like children.

So blessings be upon you all. You are not judged, nor do we think less of you for commenting like the helmet-wearing, short-bus riding, saggy-pants sniffing retards you truly are.

Jesus smiles upon you, and thus approved, you may enter the kingdom of heaven by drowning yourselves in the toilet now. Swirlies are part of the sacrament. It’s holy. Thus it’s goooood.

Swirlies are good. I’ll say it again. Swirlies, for lack of a better word, are good. Swirlies motivate, swirlies work. Swirlies payoff..Swirlies…are GOOD!

morons.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

RW— …

By luckovichisaheadcase

August 24, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Cartoon boy is really just a tasteless fool. He also is a real idiot when it comes to public policy. But what else can one expect from a paper that keeps the likes of Tucker and Bookman on the payroll?

By REP (restricting everyone's privacy) party sux

August 24, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

DUH—- You really are an idiot. ok if any liberal is guilty of treason (which you can not prove) then so is Bush, and instead of jail he should be immediately put to death as is described in the UCMJ (thats the uniform code of military justice for anyone that never served.)

Then again Bush Sr would just get Jr off it again just like he did about the coke charge, draft dodging and desertion. smh

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Okay Danish, I re-read all the garbage you posted last night and that you claim as irrefutable proof that higher education svcks. Whatever.

“You clearly do not live in a reality based existence. It does not matter how much information you are given, you refuse to see reality for what it is.”

I think this is a Freudian Slip here, do you know what that means?

Danish, What I do know, is that you have a habit of picking strongly biased information from unreliable sources and make a claim that they are fact when in reality, they are not. Just because someone types something, doesn’t make it true.

And screaming those “truths” here on this blog just doesn’t make it true either.

The examples you gave are from very neo-con, right wing conservatives - what else are they going to say?

But as a courtesy, I emailed Vanderbilt’s admissions office to see what their response was to one of the articles that mentioned them (the one that accuses them of segregation). I’ll let you know their take on it when/if I get a response.

Take for example a few months ago when you bombarded this blog with heavily biased articles of how the Swedish medical system svcks. You found a few articles - so what?

You are so gullible Danish that it is scary. You see one or two examples, read one or two articles from the ultra-right wing media and you think it is the truth. Danish, wake up.

You are the one refusing to see reality here, not me. If you base your opinions on heavily biased information, that’s telling world’s about your ability to think clearly.

Again, like I said last night, if you want to believe that garbage, go ahead, that is your choice, and you are welcome to it - but the rest of us with higher level thinking skills, know the truth about higher education. You don’t like it? That’s fine.

But please don’t sit wherever you are sitting and make sanctimonious false claims about our college education system. You really do make yourself look silly.

Another question, did you go to college?

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Oh, all the liberal loons having a go at it this morning. Some are good for a few laughs even as Luckovich uses a dead woman for jokes.

Will Jones @ 8:54

Poor guy! Still proclaiming that “Bush, beyond a resonable doubt, committed 9/11.”

Yeah, and Gore, beyond a resonable doubt, sank the Titanic with one of his melting icebergs.

Then comes Goldie @ 9:01, spokesman for one of the most virulent anti-American political segments in the USA proclaims:”Long live freedom-lovers in America.”

Thanks, Goldie, because the obvious recipients for that good wish are conservatives.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

RW @ 10:09 — Smart historians know that JFK was planning to draw down the American forces in Viet Nam before he was killed by the Repug fall-guy Oswald… JFK said in ‘63 that it was time to let the Vietnamese fighters have their civil war. Sounds very un-Repugnant, hmmm???

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

The Bush administration confirmed yesterday that American telecom companies helped the National Security Agency eavesdrop on American citizens. But guess what? It’s illegal for the companies to participate.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA): White House Will ‘Tweak’ The ‘Petraeus Report’

By Hey Mr Dusty

August 24, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Tedious reviews still the best you can do?

Where exactly does one get the Cliff’s Notes for politics and policy that you use?

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

{{because the obvious recipients for that good wish are conservatives.}}

Conservatives being who, exactly, in America? The term “conservative” no longer has any meaning in America because you’ve fallen under the spell of extremist Neo-conservatives, big gov’t spenders, budget deficit creators, and religious fanatics — why would you let those loonies take over your Repugnant Party???

Where’s the attraction in clinging to a dying Party that has so badly failed America, Dusty-DUH???

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

And RW @ 10:09— {{hiccup}} — MYOB!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Cartoon idea: Show vick with his pants down around his buttcrack, (saggy baggy), but not because of hip hop style or homie-think, but rather because angry pitbulls have bitten into them and pulled them down……

Score!!

By Betty

August 24, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish is one of the best posters here. By far. You can feel her intellect oozing throughout her wonderful style. Her father went to Harvard. Thats enough proof for me.

By In The News

August 24, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

For all of our ranting and raving about our erstwhile Dems and our infighting over our choice of candidates, it could be worse – a lot worse. Imagine being a Republican these days; imagine what a dark world that is to live in.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

I’ll add a little to what Goldie said earlier. I think that our PRESIDENT is an imperialistic, warmongering, and genocidal maniac. I DON’T however think that our country is. Most U.S. citizens are now sick and tired of the complete incompetence and arrogance of this administration and thankfully we only have a few more months to deal with this. If I had any say in the matter, Bush and his merry band of buffoons would be in jail. After Bush the morons are gone, hopefully whoever takes his place will be able to repair our crippled credibility in the world and return our country to it’s rightful place as the best in the world.

By In The News

August 24, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Somewhere in the Hamptons a high-roller is cursing his cleaning lady and shaking his fists at the lawn guys. The American poor, who are usually tactful enough to remain invisible to the multi-millionaire class, suddenly leaped onto the scene and started smashing the global financial system. Incredibly enough, this may be the first case in history in which the downtrodden manage to bring down an unfair economic system without going to the trouble of a revolution.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Imagine being a Repug these days and having your prez candidates for ‘08 still cheerleading for Bush’s policies — they’re stumbling around with their eyes closed and unable to see their “war on terror” beyond the quagmire in Iraq:

According to administration and military officials, the Joint Chiefs believe it is of crucial strategic importance to reduce the size of the U.S. force in Iraq in order to bolster the military’s ability to respond to other threats, a view that is shared by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates.

Save America — Vote Dems in ‘08!

By Midori

August 24, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

{{{{Some are good for a few laughs even as Luckovich uses a dead woman for jokes.}}}}}}}

envious, Crusty?

oh wait, I thought you said, “brain dead woman”.

But you would still fit that category.

my bad!!!!

By mm

August 24, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

RW,

Term limits would definitely help. But how do you get a bunch of millionaires to vote to end their lifetime gravy train? After the vote, who would want to run for congress if they knew they only had a few short years to get richer? Could it be that actual honest people would run for office?

I’m still shocked that finance reform was passed. But it could have had more teeth.

These clowns made $165,200 per year as of 2006. They long ago voted for an automatic payraise to avoid the attention they would receive if they voted annually for a payraise. And they have gotten a payraise for 10 straight years while leaving the minimum wage alone (until this year).

Congress is broken. We need to clean house (no pun intended).

By Paul

August 24, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Goldie 9:58

[[More about Ike— what a great Dem he was!]]

He was a Republican. Maybe you meant he continued some Democratically-begun programs. That’s the way politics used to run. Politicians made program evaluations based upon what the programs did, not based upon the party that instituted them (that’s another example of what I mean by “emotion” vs “analysis”). Of course, if you wrote he was a Republican, past practice would require a moralistic condemnation of his alleged affair with Kay Summersby. As if it had anything at all to do with his career accomplishments. But that’s the way things are done in blogland.

As important as “will Bush learn to wage peace” is “will the next President (Democrat or Republican) learn to wage peace.” Regarding Iraq, nothing I’ve seen from either party gives the impression. Dems are busy running against Bush, Reps are trying to figure out how to appear strong on terrorism (not the same as the Iraq war) while being not too identified with Bush.

9:52 the article you cited also includes “In Ike’s view, if a general got what he asked for and couldn’t produce victory, he should be fired. But under no circumstances should he be asked to follow a strategy produced “by committee” or be micromanaged by the Pentagon or White House.”

That gets to our discussion of yesterday - many of the critical generals got what they asked for - but because the attack Bush, the Left embraces them (when you’re in charge of operational planning for Centcom… or give advice to a principal architect of the fiasco…).

This is what happens when policy and performance are reduced to Dem/Rep or hateBush/defendBush. I assume you prefer to look at things this way - you know I do not. So we can agree to disagree -

The article quotes Ike as criticizing micromanagement. The same criticism many leveled against Rumsfeld also applies to many of the Democratic candidates, when it comes to Iraq.

But there’s hope. I inferred you could vote for a Republican like Ike. Well done! (I’m not endorsing a Rep here, just noting you may have the capability to vote according to non-label lines).

By Buy Danish

August 24, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Dummkopf Bosch,

Let me try to explain this to you so even you can understand it. In the interest of “diversity” and “multi-culturalism” the colleges have actually become segregated.

They so “treasure our differences” (as the Cornell website states) that they separate them into groups based on ethnicity, race and gender, which is ultimately apartheid.

Some secular colleges, where the Muslim Students Association hold sway, take it further and separate them by religion, demanding separate facilities and privileges because mingling with infidels interferes with their path toward being a good Muslim.

Even Georgetown, which was founded as a JESUIT school for Kerist sakes fell for this nonsense:

At Georgetown University, Muslim women can live apart in housing that enables them to “sleep in an Islamic setting,” as the website puts it. According to a student at the time the policy was adopted, the university housing office initially opposed the idea, on grounds that all freshman should have the experience of “living in dorms and dealing with different kinds of people.” That might sound appealing, Muslim students told a reporter in an article featured on the website. But in their view, the reporter wrote, “learning to live with ‘different kinds of people’ ” actually “causes more harm than good” for Muslims, because it requires them to live in an environment that “distracts them from their desire to become better Muslims, and even draw[s] weaker Muslims away from Islam.”

Those groups are encouraged to spend their lives not just as victims but as antagonists to every other group but their own, not to mention with our Country as a whole.

They are trained to self-identify, not as Americans, but as a fill-in-the-blank Balkanized member of a group whose entire existence revolves around this identity.

Do you think apartheid is a good idea, Boschki or is integration and assimilation no longer the goal?

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

What genius, what brilliance, no wonder liberals tell us they’re soooo smart:

{{{{By Sailor August 24, 2007 10:02 AM Here I am, a USN seaman, and my gal pal calls me a librul. Damn.}}}}

{{{{By Hey Mr. Duh August 24, 2007 10:07 AM You can’t expect an intelligent response to crap.}}}}

{{{{By REP (restricting everyone’s privacy) party suX August 24, 2007 10:07 AM DUH—- You really are an idiot. ok if any liberal is guilty of treason (which you can not prove) then so is Bush, and instead of jail he should be immediately put to death as is described in the UCMJ (thats the uniform code of military justice for anyone that never served.)}}}}

Since the last message was posted 3 times, either we’re very proud of it or you are conveying a sense of urgency, let me respond to it:

Bush served. Period. Even Dan Rather admits to that.

Bill Clinton went and hid in the Soviet Union, which at the time was a sworn and declared enemy of the United States.

Which one should we be hanging?

Rube liberals, all.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Bosch 10:47

[[I’ll add a little to what Goldie said earlier. I think that our PRESIDENT is (a)… genocidal maniac.]]

Genocide? Frustration with Iraq leading to a bit of emotionalism?

By Paul

August 24, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

mm 10:56

Full Federal funding of elections would be a start -

By deegee

August 24, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

The Iraqi government is on the verge of a Washington-led coup d’etat. Maliki’s days are numbered. Allawi is on the comeback trail. Stay tuned, news of the war will return after a short commercial break.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/23/major-republican-firm-lobbying-to-undermine-maliki/

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Goldie @ 10:38

You WISH you didn’t know who conservatives are, don’t you, Goldie? It isn’t hard to tell. Just read this blog. This is how liberals sound and they are NOT conservatives. Maybe you can tell the difference.

Liberals are concocting big lies (9/11=Bush), promoting defeat in war times, supporting our enemies through hate for America and compliments on enemy activities, suggesting impeachment when there is no guilt, accusing other government officials of crime when there is none, saying our voting system is imperfect (only when Republicans win),refusing to accept facts from standard references(Bosch), reporting only the most leftist news items to be found. Then liberal salacious comments poison this blog every day it is open. Yep, those are “LIBERALS”, not conservatives.

I look forward to 2008 also. Right now I am listening to Democratic presidential hopefuls flip flop, talk about the poor when they are rich, talk about energy conservation when they squander energy, “raise taxes”, and try to talk about supporting the troops in Iraq while trying to cut-n-run at the same time. Not even one shows any evidence of presidental material.

Yep, 2008 is going to be ANOTHER bad year for liberal Democrats.

By Hey Mr Duh

August 24, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

””“Bush served. Period”“”

Actually it should be

Bush Served. Abbreviated.

Or Maybe

Bush Served. 4 days out of every 28.

Or Perhaps

Bush Served. Until Drug tests became required.

Or how about

Bush Served. Duh didn’t.

Putz

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

ITN - bet your bottom dollar the Betrayus report will come through like bombs bursting in mid-air…on Sept. 11…what a nazi propaganda-like thing to do.

Buy Dummkopf - Why are you so black and white? Why do you feel the need to make up a lesbian lover to blog your praises? Did you go to college? Don’t tell me, let me guess…your father went to harvard, you spent your youth being a spoiled mall bratt…and partied too much your first year at UGA and dropped out. Bet I’m close!

Repugs everywhere are getting stuck to the fly paper…should be fun to watch in the up-coming months…we should find humor and laughter while we can…I’m afraid our future looks quite bleak…I think I’ll take an arabic language course.

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

What a dumb c word our Muffin is. Again, had you ever stepped a foot on a real college campus (you won’t get herpes from it, I promise), you’d know that every university has “theme housing” AS A CHOICE. I know, I know, the horror of giving people an actual choice of where and with whom to live. It’s so liberal it’s sickening. One of my good friends lived in French theme housing for a year. And, amazingly, she still does not hate America, nor does she eat only cheese and baguettes. I don’t know how it happened. Then there are Christian theme housing. Or some single gender housing. In fact, you can request theme housing for almost anything. Muffin, do us all a favor and shut the hell up about education. You know less about it than I know about tribal relations in Papua New Guinea. You can have your opinions all you want, but please stop flaunting your appaling ignorance as a badge of honor.

By Hey Mr Dusty/Danish

August 24, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Lies from last post

””“Liberals are concocting big lies (9/11=Bush), promoting defeat in war times, supporting our enemies through hate for America and compliments on enemy activities, suggesting impeachment when there is no guilt, accusing other government officials of crime when there is none, saying our voting system is imperfect (only when Republicans win),refusing to accept facts from standard references(Bosch), reporting only the most leftist news items to be found”“”

Then there’s this crap

look forward to 2008 also. Right now I am listening to Democratic presidential hopefuls flip flop, talk about the poor when they are rich, talk about energy conservation when they squander energy, “raise taxes”, and try to talk about supporting the troops in Iraq while trying to cut-n-run at the same time. Not even one shows any evidence of presidental material.

The dems are talking about

income inequality and the the economy

foriegn policy

healthcare

infrastructure

and loads more REAL issues

The republican are talking about

edwards hair

hillary’s cleavage

how good thompson and romney smell

all the time rudy spent at ground zero (tee hee)

terror, terror, terror

and

avoiding bush

what a shame

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

{{I inferred you could vote for a Republican like Ike. Well done! (I’m not endorsing a Rep here, just noting you may have the capability to vote according to non-label lines).}}

Paul— yes, I’ve often referred to myself as a voter independent of party politics. My promotion of the Dems for the past 2 prez elections has been mostly because I see the Dems as the best-hope strategy for restoring sanity to the White House.

I was never a big fan of the Clintons, but they were the best-chance in the 90’s for pushing back the Ray-gun policies for Neo-conservatives, which in my view was destroying everything America has always stood for… and in 2000, my biggest fear of Bush Jr. getting elected was “well, there goes the environment!”… so little did I understand then how bad he would be for America in so many ways. More Neo-conservatism since 2000, only now on steroids!… to quote my guy Obama…

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Dusters — reboot!

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish, You need not EVER EXPLAIN anything TO ME. Please.

As I’ve said, if you want to believe that garbage, go ahead, please, go ahead. I don’t care what you believe and you shouldn’t care what I believe, okay?

I don’t buy your argument, and I never will. You use completely ultra-right wing, biased resources and that does not swing in a debate.

You have obviously NEVER been on a college campus or you’d know those articles are just not true, or heavily skewed and taken completely out of context.

I’ll let you know when/if I get a response from Vanderbilt.

My son and I recently visited Vanderbilt University and I did not get the impression that the school was a bunch of rascist, appartheid loving, idiots like you think.

And to simply answer your question, no, I do not think appartheid is a good idea [as I roll my eyes].

Paul, Yes, maybe genocide was a bit much, sorry about that.

And yes, I am pretty frustrated with the whole Iraq thing.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

{{Yep, 2008 is going to be ANOTHER bad year for liberal Democrats.}}

HA, Dust-DUH, Danish-DUH and Andy-DUH still promoting everything that’s bad for America — more and more Neo-conservatism, is that it? More war and invading other dictator-led countries, in order to install your own selected dictators and promoting “freedeom” by gun-point??? You just never get enough of those dictator-wannabes in your Party, do ya???

I can’t imagine how desperate you must feel, to still be clinging to such failed policies, simply because you don’t like to be proven WRONG FOR AMERICA… very very pathetic, indeed!

By Truthman

August 24, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Our Soldiers know what’s real and what’s not!

http://www.slate.com/id/2172634/

I guess they’re unpatriotic, Luckodunce? Treasonous, @@? Cut-and-runners, Bye Danish?

They have bigger ball$ than any of you losers.

By All-Hat Ranch

August 24, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

I can’t wait for Dusty to show her “patriotism” when the next president is sworn in.

Some asked the other day but Dusty did not answer. I’ll ask again.

Dusty, will you be willing to go against your beliefs and unconditionally support the next President?

Even if that President is a liberal. Or a Democrat?

Can we bookmark your answer?

How bout you BD, RW, or the crazy man?

You in???????????????

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 11:03 -“Genocide? Frustration with Iraq leading to a bit of emotionalism?”

Paul - death is emotional…wouldn’t you agree? Loose your emotions…become a neo-con.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

HOW MANY NEEDE FOR GENOCIDE?

In a scientific study published last fall in the prestigious medical journal The Lancet, researchers from Johns Hopkins estimated that 650,000 Iraqis had died because of our government’s invasion of their country. The survey that produced that estimate was completed in July, 2006. That was a year ago………………………. Unfortunately, despite the calls of the Lancet authors for other studies, there has been no systematic effort to update these results…………………………………………….. Just Foreign Policy has attempted to update the Lancet estimate in the best way we know. We have extrapolated from the Lancet estimate, using the trend provided by the tally of Iraqi deaths reported in Western media compiled by Iraq Body Count. Our current estimate is that 974,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S. invasion. The web counter and fuller explanation are here

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Rushncap, Thank you for posting that about the themed houses. It’s been a while since I was in college, and I didn’t know about those. That was really funny what you said about your friend in the “French house.” I’m so glad that she didn’t turn to the dark side.

What? You don’t know about tribal relations in New Guinea? I thought EVERYBODY knew about that! Just kidding.

By Buy Danish

August 24, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Good luck with that email to Vanderbilt! I predict that they will steer you to their “We ♥diversity” website which will subliminally extol the virtues of being separate but equal.

And don’t bother reading this article from Time Magazine, dated January 24, 1969.

You are far too obstinate in your desire to remain oblivious to the truth, so it is a waste of time. However, others may be interested to read this prescient warning:

The nation’s increasingly militant black students last week were admonished by a black man who has spent most of his life trying to advance the cause of his race. Speaking at the annual corporate meeting of the N.A.A.C.P., Executive Director Roy Wilkins warned that students demanding separate, all-black departments of study on the nation’s campuses are really seeking “what are, patently, Jim Crow schools.”

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Paul @ 11:03

Stop being kind. Calling George Bush an imperialistic, genocidal maniac is pure hate, not sensationalism over the Iraq War.

At one time, citizenship required some loyalty to the government of the United States and its elected officials. It seems that time is passe’.

I don’t know how you can define disloyalty and hate any better than what Goldie and Bosch are doing.

There is a very fine line between free speech and traitorous activities. I think these two have betrayed free speech for hateful propaganda. Let us label it for what it is.

By Hey Mr Dusty Danish

August 24, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

1969 was a very good year.

So were most of the 38 years in between.

Putz

By ed lorenzo

August 24, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Hail Petraeus! Yo are doing a heckuva job! Are you ready to help me put together that report?”

The general adjusted his toga, looked at the Commander in Chief and answered:

“Di immortales virtutem approbare, non adhibere debent!”

The rest is history.

By Buy Danish

August 24, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Don’t bother to read this either.

What’s new in ethnic finagling on our campuses? Well, we just learned that Jews are being favored at—->>>>>>Vanderbilt University <<<<<<——(aggressively recruited for the first time) and will keep being disfavored at the University of Michigan Law School (passed over for less qualified blacks and Hispanics), at least until the U.S. Supreme Court steps in.

{{{It’s hard to decide which of these two stories is more excruciating. Vanderbilt, a Bible Belt university located in Nashville, is targeting Jewish students in an “elite strategy” to boost itself toward Ivy League status. Chancellor Gordon Gee announced this plan along with a series of relentlessly pro-Semitic compliments guaranteed to set every Jewish tooth on edge: Jews are lively, interesting and hardworking, and come from a rich culture. All well meant, no doubt, but close to conventional stereotypes.}}}

AND

{{{Here we go again. Although Vanderbilt claims that it’s just marketing to a new group of students, this looks like yet another identity-group preference scheme by college officials who seem constitutionally unable to hold all candidates for admission to a common standard.}}}

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish, What I am too far obstinate in is a desire for you to stop wasting our time with this garbage you call facts.

And as far as Vanderbilt is concerned, I’ll take their word over yours anyday.

Dusty, At one time, there used to be a requirement for our president to be a decent human being, but it seems that is passe’ too.

George Bush is a traitor to our country, not me.

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Bosch — she wanted to learn French. In French theme housing she lived with some fluent speakers, and some people who wanted to learn it, like herself. She loved the experience, and actually yes, she does want to move to Europe :)

I’m glad Muffin can summon articles from 1969 to prove her point. You were what, 40 back then, Muff?

By getalife

August 24, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

If you have to have surgery, sign the I do not want to be Terry Shaivo form, if something goes wrong.

The Allwai contract with the corrupt govenor from Miss.’s lobbying firm shows everything that is wrong with Washington.

It is still coc, as usual.

Geez.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Goldie 11:19

Well, I’ve never gotten too worked up over the social conservative agenda - and the lack of any specific, enduring legislation in that regards is what I rather expected.

Regarding the “neocons” - as much as I rarely heard a definition (not an attempt to put anyone on the spot, just to understand what they mean by a term) I viewed Perle/Wolfowitz/Feith as in that mold - and I am frustrated by their lack of accountability (that and my expressions during yesterday’s generals exchange should indicate I can get mildly perturbed).

I trace much of today’s polarization to the Republican/Rove/Delay policies - and fault Dems for recognizing how “effective” they were and trying to do them one better.

I seem to recall that when I spoke of past Democrats I supported, you… ummm… cast mild aspersions on my credibility. Be that as it may, I’ve always had faith in the ongoing battles for power between Congress and the Executive - which is why I don’t view VP Cheney in “Darth Vader” terms but another in the line (going waaay back) of officials seeking to preserve/expand Executive power - just as Reid (and Reps before him) do with Congress.

I’ve seen too many good proposals go down the tubes, without even a compromise, because the advocates were hardline emotional. Or viewed compromise as weakness (much more evident in Washington today). One reason I try to step back and think in terms of general principles/what’ll work/who cares what party proposed.

Bosch

Yeah, well, who isn’t? :)

By AntiRadical

August 24, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Now and again, RW says something succinct but illogical- “We’d be a lot better off if Congress critters from both parties would realize the founding fathers never intended lifetime members.”

RW, since the founding fathers did not define any term limits, how is it that you claim they “never intended lifetime membership”. Seems to me that is exactly what they intended since they did not restrict it. Just because you would like for the founding fathers to have intended term limits (as do I) does not mean that it is so.

RW, you are interlacing opinion with fact. We can only guess if Jefferson & Madison were in favor of term limits but knew them to be unworkable during Revolutionary times when few citizens had the education, intellect, or means to serve, neccessitating multiple terms for those who did.

Personally my opinion is that these men were political geniuses who none-the-less were steeped in practicality. They understood exactly what they were doing, but were constrained by the resources available to them and our nation at the time. That is only my opinion, though.

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Bosch — don’t worry about Muff, and good luck with Vandy. And yes, in most universities you can get theme housing for certain things. What that usually means is that a floor of a dorm is dedicated to some theme, usually no more than that. Frosh usually live in normal dorms, but after that it’s more of a free for all.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Don’t worry, I won’t. It’s garbage and I don’t waste my time with reading garbage. I shouldn’t waste my time with even responding to you, so I think I’ll stop now. But, please keep going if you want to, don’t let me bother you.

You and your “research” and “facts” speak for themselves.

It’s really sad.

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

{{{{By DIM THE NEWS August 24, 2007 11:30 AM In a scientific study published last fall in the prestigious medical journal The Lancet, Our current estimate is that 974,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S. invasion.}}}}

Even if that number was remotely correct, which it isn’t, who exactly does dimmie think killed all of those Iraqis?

And maybe if dimmie and his pinko lib friends hadn’t twisted this atrocity and blamed it on America, like Al Qaeda knows that the libs will do for them and is why they use genocide as a tool, how many of those lives could have been saved?

Duh.

By AntiRadical

August 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

My eldest daughter teaches Calculus at a Georgia university.

She tells me they discuss 1st and 2nd order integrals and differentials.

There is simply no time for politics and social meanderings.

Perhaps if academic detractors ever sat through a class, they would be less intimidated by what they imagine to go on there.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Rushncap, Thanks for the tip. Shopping around for a school is a very stressful business, but it is kind of fun.

And don’t worry, Danish and her rants while quite entertaining, are far from worrisome :-) .

By Albert

August 24, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

The poll results aren’t showing up - again.

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Oh another joker amongst the liberals..

rushncap thinks “theme houses” are something new.

Yeah, just like “theme schools, theme drinking fountains, theme rest rooms, theme seats on the bus” were the rage in the middle of the last century.

But somebody “caught on” to the “theme”. But not our college student rushncap. He lives in the “snob theme” hall all by himself. rushncap reigns!! There is no one smart enough to join him.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

dust ball- calling bush a genocidal maniac IS kind.

I hate bush, bush hates me… I hate bush, bush hates me… I hate bush, bush hates me…

Sorry…I’m sure you understand though…death makes me emotional.

Oh, so does being treated like a second-class citizen who has to be told who to love and marry.

Oh yeah, and so does watching the world I live in melt.

Please, pardon moi…for I am not borg or vulcan like you…just a mere mortal.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

raisedanidiot

I was referring to the term “genocide.” I feel strongly that when terms such as that, describing evil, inhuman actions are used lightly, it reduces the impact and the horror people should experience.

Dusty

I wasn’t being kind - just observing to a guy I have some interesting discussions with that frustration can lead to emotionalism that can weaken the impact of some powerful words.

Seriously, there are people who hear “Bush causes genocide” and say “huh?” - then hear “genocide in Darfur” and go ‘yawwwwn.”

Bosch 11:42 - last line-

Chill! (or whatever term you care to use). Traitor to the values you hold, maybe - but don’tcha just think maybe he’s true to what he views as his values? Even if you disagree?

Personally, as I’ve said, I look at his record with education, environment, bipartisanship, etc. while governor of Texas, then look at much of what happened in Washington, and think of that line “who are you and what have you done with George Bush?” Maybe if we moved the capital to Topeka, Kansas they would keep a sense of reality?

By Its the democracy stupid

August 24, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Bush started this war so he could bring democracy to the 35 people that will still be alive there when his war is over.

By Albert

August 24, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

The poll results aren’t showing up - again.

By Its the democracy stupid

August 24, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Democracy in Iraq…..Bush style…..

If you want the current Iraqi leader to stay in power roll over in your grave.

If you want a new leader, stay still.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

-=-

Well technically Duh —

WE killed all those Iraqi’s. Or at least you can clearly say we are the CAUSE of the death of all those Iraqi’s.

Even if a majority of the deaths were due to insurgents, terrorist, atc.. (which by the way they are not), it was still caused by us invading Iraq, destabilizing the government, destroying the infrastructure, and leaving the place in ruis so tribal warefare, civil warfare, and gang warfare commenced.

So Duh-bya-andy — We are still responsible for ALL of those deaths, since we started the war!

-=-

By Can’t Resist 9:32 AM

great billboard! (and it is)

Did you see this one that I linked yesterday?

Cheers -

Thomas

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Cartoon idea: A rubber finger fooled a sheriff enough that he sent it to a crime lab.

The rubber finger was apparently all that was left of a Michael Vick doggie chew toy…..

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

-=-

Well technically Duh —

WE killed all those Iraqi’s. Or at least you can clearly say we are the CAUSE of the death of all those Iraqi’s.

Even if a majority of the deaths were due to insurgents, terrorist, etc.. (which by the way they are not), it was still caused by us invading Iraq, destabilizing the government, destroying the infrastructure, and leaving the place in ruins so tribal warefare, civil warfare, and gang warfare commenced.

So Duh-bya-andy — We are still responsible for ALL of those deaths, since we started the war!

-=-

By Can’t Resist 9:32 AM

great billboard! (and it is)

Did you see this one that I linked yesterday?

Cheers -

Thomas

By getalife

August 24, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

I see the trolls are as desperate as w spewing his Vietnam crap.

Read the world media and they know Iraq is lost.

Getting rid of Malarki will do nothing. It is delay distraction from the inevitable. Iraq belongs to Iran.

Reid was right. Admit it . Move on. w and cheney should resign in disgrace.

Let the liberals clean up the mess like they always do after the gop screw up the country. Vote Dem in 08.

Geez.

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

The collapsed bridge and the collapsed mine. One caused by pigeons, the other by the canaries.

When are we going to admit that Alfred Hitchcock was right. The birds have declared a jihad.

There gonna get us all. Why doesn’t somebody do something?

Seriously, if there ever was a justification for unions it is the collapsed mine. The owners go deep and cheap. Deeper and Cheaper.

CNN just reported that Hurricane Dean did $500 Billion worth of improvements to Mexico, eh?

By RE

August 24, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Prediction:

as we now see we must continue the surge and the war because there is “some progress” being made. The petreus report will be written by the white house and play this up. This will give another 3-6 months of reasons to stay in the war.

Late 07 or early 08, Maliki will be over thrown in one way or another. And of course at that point the arguement will be made that we have to give the new government time to work.

Instability and a lack of results has become a reason to continue. Madness.

Much is asked about what would happen if we pull out of Iraq. Where is the question as to what will happen if we stay in. Where are the the soldiers and sailors going to coming from that will be in Iraq in 2010, 2012 and onward. How does this expenditure of military force in Iraq weaken the country in the rest of it’s military obligations? WHen do we start paying for the war debt?

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad August 24, 2007 12:04 PM Even if a majority of the deaths were due to insurgents, terrorist, atc.. (which by the way they are not), it was still caused by us invading Iraq, destabilizing the government, destroying the infrastructure, and leaving the place in ruis so tribal warefare, civil warfare, and gang warfare commenced. So Duh-bya-andy — We are still responsible for ALL of those deaths, since we started the war!}}}}

Believe me, I know you are responsible for those deaths, glad you could admit it.

The United States damn sure isn’t.

I suppose when Al Qaeda killed the three thousand in New York and Washington D.C. that was our fault too, huh, POS?

Regardless of whatever excuse you pinko liberals come up with to enable the terrorists to kill in the name of your political strategy, it still does not excuse the fact that ANY murder is wrong except that which protects innocent lives.

And which side are you on, lowlife?

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Paul - “Seriously, there are people who hear “Bush causes genocide” and say “huh?” - then hear “genocide in Darfur” and go ‘yawwwwn.”

RIIIIGGHHHT….sorry, keep forgeting we gotta dumb things down american style. However, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting on the american public to show outrage about darfur no matter what language you use…its taken most of them 7 yrs. to get uncomfortable with the status quo here. What’s it gonna take to outrage us enough to get up off our azzes and demand a change to this corrupt two-party non-system…take away everybody’s t.v….bet you’ll see some red-faced beer bellies marching with protest signs then.

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS, regarding your 10:44, this is a topic I have considered for a long time.

Everyday when I wake up I try to remember how extremely lucky I am to have been born an American. I also think how contented I am to have chosen not to BE a Republican. Ever.

To me, the so-called “conservatives” (and the term is IMHO essentially meaningless now due to the perversion of its original definitions and hallmarks) of the past 25 years or so have been uncannily and almost universally, at least partially, wrong about every single significant social issue of our times.

And it is mainly based on reactionary intransigence and a near complete anti-progress mindset that is mixed with WAY too much religiosity, intolerance and arrogance.

Liberals are in many cases misguided as well and naive as hell, and left to their own, would, and have, implemented some equally inane ideas. But at least they also serve some very useful functions in our republic and have a very long and well documented history of furthering the aims and the very best of this nation. (And unlike their counterparts, they are not totalitarian-like in nature.)

And strictly from a pragmatic point of view, I have great difficulty in seeing where this “hopelessly unable to learn from the past”/anti-progressive/”conservative” crowd has. And though I can’t tell the future, I don’t see that ever happening.

UNLESS and until the right wing learns that they will never be successful in mandating their absurd legislation of morality in this country and unless and until they can demonstrate MUCH more credibility of their own in this area, they are doomed to once again be the minority that they have historically been.

By Shawny

August 24, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Nice…

Terri Schiavo. Real nice.

idiot

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Hurrican Dean caused 100 million dollars in improvements to Mexico.

By Shawny

August 24, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

But don’t take his word.

It makes more sense to listen to defeatist civilians that don’t really know what is going on.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

RE

Good questions. Heard anything from the candidates? Other than a 60-sec blip? Either party?

Point regarding the debt: seems the only time “the people” are concerned about the debt is when part of it can be attributed to a program they don’t like. Otherwise, it just keeps rolling along -

By Can't Resist

August 24, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

It’s Official! A recent poll shows that over 64% of all Americans believe that the invasion of Iraq was a “decisively large mistake” by the President. Which means that Monica Lewinsky is no longer accredited with pulling the biggest boner while in the White House.

By getalife

August 24, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

With the Army chief finally saying he will not extend the tours of duty, the surge will end in the Spring of 08.

A Dem President will get most of them out of that hell hole.

w and cheney will never man up and admit it is lost. Then they would have to resign. There is no honor in those cowards.

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

bosch@11:52

You exemplify your tunnel vision and hate with almost every post. Our president has served his country in the military and as president. I doubt that you have done either or ever will.

Why don’t you direct your hate toward terrorism? You act like it isn’t around. Maybe if some of your family had been on the top floor of one of the twin towers 9/11 you might give a little more thought to what the terrorists plan for us.

In the meantime, you sit around crying about “the killing of our troops”. Why don’t you show support for them instead of the enemy? They are fighting terrorists for you and me.

You remind me of a block of concrete, unable to listen to anyone who disagrees with you. That in itself is pure ignorance.

I hope your son is more open minded than you. If not, he won’t learn a thing at Vanderbilt. And don’t say I don’t know anything about it. I have two childre still in “higher learning”, one far advanced in the PhD program as I have mentioned before. Higher learning is a tradition in our family. Don’t even bother with the derogatory remarks.

By getalife

August 24, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Swarmy,

Like Warner and General Batiste?

Idiot.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

IVAW to kick off Truth In Recruiting campaign with Sept. 17 national day of action!

By Paul

August 24, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot

[[RIIGGHT]] The use of terms such as “genocide” in combination with “Bush” strikes me as “dumbed-down, American style.” (No offense, Bosch. I feel your frustration).

[[bet you’ll see some red-faced beer bellies marching with protest signs then]]

and the croissant and latte marchers are where?

Answer: they aren’t.

No need to be divisive by restricting the lack of outrage to a stereotype. America (in general) is not interested in either issue.

Or on Dharfur, recognize there’s no vital national interest and, even if they want to “do something” are leery of more moral imperialism.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Hoekstra: democracy cannot work in Iraq. Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), ranking member on the House Select Committee on Intelligence, said that “he’s changed his original support for the Bush administration’s stated goal of molding a democratic Iraq as a means to stabilize the Middle East.” “You’ve got a culture where democracy is not part of, ‘Let’s go there,’” Hoekstra said. “It was a stretch.” Nevertheless, “Hoekstra said he opposes setting a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops.”

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

-=-

Andy the Duh’ —

I am on the side of the USA, and the Constitution of the United States of America. I respect the laws of this country. I defend THIS country. I was absolutly in agreement with most everyone in this country in going after the TERRORIST in AFGHANISTAN that were the known cause of the deaths of over 3000 American lives.

I would bet you quite a few Muslims lives were lost in the offices of the World Trade center as well so this was not an issue of jihad’ or religion.

I was in favor of fighting the Taliban, it’s spin off arm of Al-qeasy-eater and Bin Laden, but for some reason you neocon nuts thought Iraq was more important than fighting the known terrorist ih Afghanistan.

Yes YOU supported using our military for illegally INVADING a country without appropriate cause and reason. The Neocons took what was a righteous war and turned it into a war of conquest and nation building. The GOP goons had absoulutly no plans for fixing the country after the attack other than throw more taxpayer money into select no-bid contracts for special friends of the GOP. Yes and since the GOP had total control of this countrys government they are DIRECTLY responsible for what has occurred!

The deaths of innocnts did not concern you then, the destruction of Iraq’s infrastructure was not important, just get Saddam! Well you got him and the cost was damn high!

So yes - You the neocons can point all the fingers you want and say the Dmocrats did it, the Cintons did it, the Liberals are responsible, but any intelligent person in this world knows who actually caused this mess. The people of the GOP who made the descisions and their neonazi talking heads!

Cheers Andy Nazi’

Your Political Party - Your mess — Your FAULT! Oh and it is also the fault of your glorious neocon leader “Chicken Caesar”

Thomas

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

{{{{Historian quoted by Bush ‘angrily distances’ himself. In his speech on Wednesday, President Bush quoted an “interesting observation” by “one historian” on people criticizing U.S. efforts to help Japan rebuild after World War II, as support for his policies in Iraq:

You know, the experts sometimes get it wrong. An interesting observation, one historian put it — he said, “Had these erstwhile experts” — he was talking about people criticizing the efforts to help Japan realize the blessings of a free society — he said, “Had these erstwhile experts had their way, the very notion of inducing a democratic revolution would have died of ridicule at an early stage.”

Yet yesterday, the historian, MIT professor John Dower, called Bush’s use of his work “perverse“:

They [war supporters] keep on doing this. They keep on hitting it and hitting it and hitting it and it’s always more and more implausible, strange and in a fantasy world. They’re desperately groping for a historical analogy, and their uses of history are really perverse. … I have always said as a historian that the use of Japan [in arguing for the likelihood of successfully bringing democracy to Iraq] is a misuse of history.}}}}}

By getalife

August 24, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

dusty,

We know you are an educated idiot with no common sense.

You ignore reality and a part time Patriot who did not support Clinton in his victorious war.

We hate losers like you and w. Clinton is a winner and you bash him. So, stick your patriotism . Loser.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

dust ball -“Why don’t you direct your hate toward terrorism? You act like it isn’t around. Maybe if some of your family had been on the top floor of one of the twin towers 9/11 you might give a little more thought to what the terrorists plan for us.”

Here you go again, dust ball…bin laden sucks rocks!!! and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of terrorist everywhere!

Why do you support this war, dust ball, BD, RW…anyone? Can you read me? Am I really here? are you really there? do you have any real beliefs? Can you answer this one question? Ever?

By Dallas

August 24, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Please!!! Buy Danish, @@, Andy, RW,and Dusty, I can put up with.

But that Shawny???? All she does is whine!!!!!

Is there a point to anything you post other than the “why me” or “they did it too” bs, Shawny?

By Midori

August 24, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

I’d like to dedicate this toon to Shawny

By Robin

August 24, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Queston: Is our lying, alcoholic, equally drug-impaired president still pon vacation??

Fact: This Dustbrain geek is a real trip. Years on Indian reservations, years in the “medical” field. Kids working on Ph.D’s. This freak spreads BS like you spread grass seed. Anywhere and everywhere. He/it is deeply, deeply disturbed. Yet he is free to walk among us. How sad.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

FOR SHAWNY

Military command wants Iraq troops cut by nearly half

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK A LITTLE HARDER TO KEEP UP FELLA

By getalife

August 24, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

It is time to admit like Hoekstra, Warner, Levin and many others to follow that are you are losers wingnuts.

You lost, move on, admit it, repent to save your souls.

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

getalife, let’s not forget Chuck Hagel, who back in April said:

Last weekend, along with Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.), I completed my fifth trip to Iraq, and I am frustrated and worried. We are still risking the lives of our troops without giving them a realistic policy worthy of their sacrifices. To me, as a Vietnam veteran, that feels terribly familiar.

If success were simply a matter of the determination and ability of U.S. troops and civil servants, we would have already created a secure and stable Iraq. But unfortunately, the reality is that after more than four years, America remains the country’s occupying power. Iraq’s future will be determined by Iraqis, who, I hope, will reach a political accommodation — but America is still making the major decisions and taking the lead militarily in most critical areas of the country. We can continue to help buy time for the Iraqi government — but that time is running out.

The signs are everywhere. Key Shiite leaders told me that they remain deeply skeptical of Sunni intentions. They derided as “appeasement” constructive attempts to reintegrate select ex-Baath Party officials into public life and the government. Shiite and Kurdish leaders openly suggested that Iraq simply pursue what’s known as “the 80/20 solution” — meaning that the Kurds and Shiites, who make up some 80 percent of the population, would run the country without regard for the minority Sunnis, who had grown accustomed to dominating Iraq. Almost no one in Baghdad was talking about using new provincial elections this year to help bring the Sunnis into the national government. The governor of Anbar province, al-Qaeda’s base in Iraq, agreed that security had improved recently but raised concerns that his province still gets almost no assistance from the central government in Baghdad. That has left citizens in his province without jobs, electricity and potable water, even as open sewers spill filth into the streets.

There are important areas of progress in Iraq, and we should recognize them. In Anbar province, for example, U.S. military leaders highlighted the significant success they have had in lowering the number of attacks by al-Qaeda. The military has successfully engaged tribal leaders who have provided informal governance there for hundreds of years. The U.S. military has also succeeded in helping double the size of the Iraqi forces in the pro

By RE

August 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

here you go Paul

One bit of government spending I am always against is the est. 500 billion we will be paying this year on interest for the national debt.

500 Billion is wasted on interest, the fourth largest expenditure after HHS (medicare-medicade) Social security and the DOD. Every budget proposed by GWB has been a proposed deficeit budget, meaning that each budget has been PLANNED to increase the national debt, and thus the payments the government spends each year financing it.

Cut govt spending or raise taxes, probably a combination of both. It should be criminal for a president to propose or for congress to approve a budget that increases the debt.

And no, know one talks about where the troops to fight in 2010 or 2012 are coming from, mainly because they do not have an answer (aside from a draft, which will never be said by a candidate). The GOP make noises like they will be strong and continue to fight, Dems make noises like they will withdraw but not completely, and the press never bothers to ask either side about who will be fighting or how that expenditure of forces effects the total security of the US.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

[THE SURGE….Is the surge working? That is, even if you ignore the lack of political progress, are we even making tactical progress? Since violence in Iraq tends to be seasonal, the only reasonable comparison is one between summer 2006 and summer 2007, so I went to the latest Brookings Iraq Index to check out the most recent numbers.

No figures are available for August, and the surge wasn’t completely up and running until June, so the best comparison is between June/July 2006 and June/July 2007. I’m not pretending this is conclusive or anything, but the news sure doesn’t look very good. The two tables below tell the story.](http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_08/011931.php)

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Paul - that was my point exactly…we’re on the same page… I’m just a little more passionate than you I guess. Oh, wasn’t trying to stereotype…you’re the one that equated the red-faced beer bellies with the neo-cons. You don’t need me to put labels on these guys…they do it themselves. :)

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Continued from above:

If the good news is mixed, the bad news is downright troubling. Within the past two weeks, hundreds of Iraqis were slaughtered in Baghdad, the Iraqi Parliament’s cafeteria was hit by a suicide bomber, and a historic Baghdad bridge over the Tigris River was destroyed. Ominously, these increased acts of violence occurred in the area where the United States and Iraq have deployed 80,000 security forces.

So what do we do?

We must start by understanding what’s really happening in Iraq. According to the National Intelligence Estimate released in February, the conflict has become a “self-sustaining inter-sectarian struggle between Shia and Sunnis” and also includes “extensive Shia-on-Shia violence.” This means that Iraq is being consumed by sectarian warfare, much of it driven by Shiite or Sunni militias — not al-Qaeda terrorists. Yes, there are admirers of Osama bin Laden in the country, including a full-blown al-Qaeda branch. But terrorists are not the core problem; Sunni-Shiite violence is. The Bush administration’s rhetoric has not been nearly clear enough on this key point.

American occupation cannot stop a civil war in Iraq. Our military, superb as it is, can only do so much. The only lasting answer to Iraq’s anguish will come from a political resolution. There will be no military solution in Iraq.

So how can America influence the Iraqis to reconcile their differences — at least enough to form some kind of responsible government?

First, we must recognize that we have few good options in Iraq and that we are dealing with dynamics that lie mostly beyond our control.

Second, we must do all we can to encourage a comprehensive regional security framework, which includes engaging Syria and Iran. The regional security conference next month in Egypt is an opportunity we must not miss. We cannot solve the problems in Iraq by ourselves. We will have to work more closely with our Middle East allies than ever before, and that means addressing the nearly universal perception in the Middle East that we are imposing our will on the region for our own purposes.

To get more help from our regional friends, we must also have Middle Eastern countries see the Iraqi government as credible, not a U.S. puppet. And to get our regional strategy right, we must clearly recognize the depth of the Sunni-Shiite split and factor it into our M

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

{{{{Democrat Bobby Saxon of Nicholson will formally announce his campaign for the U.S. House of Representatives in Georgia’s 10th District on Saturday, August 25 at 10:30 a.m. Saxon, a small business owner and Iraq War veteran is the first Democrat to announce in the 10th District. Saxon is also the Chair of the Jackson County Democratic Party and a member of the Democratic Party of Georgia’s State Committee.

Who: Bobby Saxon, Democrat for U.S. Congress What: Formal announcement of candidacy and media availability

When: Saturday, August 25, 10:30 a.m.

Where: Saxon residence}}}}

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 24, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

By Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad August 24, 2007 12:42 PM I would bet you quite a few Muslims lives were lost in the offices of the World Trade center as well so this was not an issue of jihad’ or religion.}}}}

Say what?

Are you freaking kidding me?

{{{{I was in favor of fighting the Taliban, it’s spin off arm of Al-qeasy-eater and Bin Laden, but for some reason you neocon nuts thought Iraq was more important than fighting the known terrorist ih Afghanistan.}}}}

Bin Laden is holed up in some cave in fear of his life and the Taliban are decimated, hiding in some other country than Afghanistan.

WTF are you talking about?

You make no sense, weird little man, just like your political party.

No sense.

By getalife

August 24, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Amvet,

Yes, now the gop think democracy will not work but will vote to stay the course.

Check Hagel’s voting record. I watch C-Span on the important votes and they all talk tough but vote with the gop.

They trick the Dems into thinking they would vote with them but never do.

Check out Basra, it is lost. The Brits will withdraw and there are not enough troops to replace them.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

TOO IMPORTANT MUST FIX LINK

THE SURGE….Is the surge working? That is, even if you ignore the lack of political progress, are we even making tactical progress? Since violence in Iraq tends to be seasonal, the only reasonable comparison is one between summer 2006 and summer 2007, so I went to the latest Brookings Iraq Index to check out the most recent numbers……………….. No figures are available for August, and the surge wasn’t completely up and running until June, so the best comparison is between June/July 2006 and June/July 2007. I’m not pretending this is conclusive or anything, but the news sure doesn’t look very good. The two tables below tell the story.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

“If you’re a farmer in South Georgia, and you’re watching your crops shrivel up before your eyes and your watering ponds evaporate, I don’t think you’ve got a lot of nice things to say about Georgia Republican science,'" said Rep. Dubose Porter (D-Dublin). "There's no question aboutfact or fiction,’ this is the reality for Georgia, even if Jeff Lewis and the other Georgia Republicans on this committee refuse to admit it.”

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Paul, I’m always chilled out - but, yes, I think Bush is a traitor, sorry. That’s not emotion, that’s how I feel. He betrayed our country.

By getalife

August 24, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

“Bin Laden is holed up in some cave in fear of his life and the Taliban are decimated, hiding in some other country than Afghanistan.”

OMG, duh is talking about the real enemy but is dead wrong as usual.

Still batting .000. Keep swinging duh.

Geez.

By Midori

August 24, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

What we’re seeing in Bush is someone who is just smart enough to know that most people finally caught on to—something he knew from the jump six-plus years ago—the job was way, way over his head.

Bush knows as well as anyone that he’s never succeeded in anything in his adult life without help from his father or his father’s friends. Deep down, he knows he’s a loser, a drunk and drug user, an empty vessel who made it on his family’s last name.

How can this man, who escaped serving in Vietnam because of his father’s influence and who was AWOL during his last year of National Guard service, presume to talk about what should have happened in Vietnam, much less stand in front of groups of military men and women and exhort them to go into battle?

Like most drug users, Bush long ago lost his self-respect and is frozen in selfish adolescence. He knows he’s a fraud but there’s just enough of the bully-boy in him, just enough of the hope that maybe people really don’t see through his charade, that if he puts on a flight suit and codpiece that some die-hard Republicans will believe he really is a man, not the coward that, deep inside, he knows himself to be.

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

In March, when the U.S. State Department announced its new global survey of human rights, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declared that the report demonstrated America’s commitment to civil liberties, the rule of law, and a free press. “We are recommitting ourselves to stand with those courageous men and women who struggle for their freedom and their rights,” she said. “And we are recommitting ourselves to call every government to account that still treats the basic rights of its citizens as options rather than, in President Bush’s words, the non-negotiable demands of human dignity.” Flipping through the report, however, one cannot help but notice how many of the countries that flout “the non-negotiable demands of human dignity” seem to have negotiated themselves significant support from the U.S. government,

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

AmVet - you are fast becoming my hero.

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

I just love this Dusters quote: “You remind me of a block of concrete, unable to listen to anyone who disagrees with you.” Apparently blocks of concrete are only able to listen to those who, ummmm, agree with them? Dusters is hilarious!

On the up side, she is related to people who have been to college, so that makes her ever so smart…

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Yes, I know that in some ways, Hagel’s voting record is a neo-cons wet dream come true.

But I think given the chance to make leadership decisions by trying to build a REAL consensus and a REAL coalition, he at least stands a chance.

He was one of the first Republicans to break ranks with the White House and I think in some ways he has opened the door for many others to follow.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Amvet- @ straight-up 1:00 …PREACH IT BROTHER!!

By mm

August 24, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Paul,

There was no debt when Bush took office.

By Hey Mr AmVet

August 24, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

””“He was one of the first Republicans to break ranks with the White House and I think in some ways he has opened the door for many others to follow.”“”

This is true,

BUT

it really does no good unless he walks through.

By RE

August 24, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

mm

There was a debt. There was not a budget shortfall. There is a big difference.

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Robin @12:48

I am not a liberal. I do not lie.

By Fly-on-the-wall

August 24, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

So this is suppose to help the Iraqi government rebuild? It’s all about the money for the Republicans - (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/23/anti.maliki.compaign/index.html)

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty, This statement “Our president has served his country in the military and as president” made me spit Coke all over my desk. It’s taken me 30 minutes to clean it up. Thanks.

Why don’t I direct my hate toward terrorism? Why doesn’t Bush direct his attention toward terrorism?

If someone in my family had been on the top floors of the World Trade Center and killed, I would probably be dead right now - I would have slit my wrists in frustration because no one in the Bush administration seems to care about that event, and SIX YEARS LATER are doing very little to find the person responsible — they have spent a trillion dollars on a civil war, toppled a dictator who had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, and for what?

Saddam Hussein and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 - Osama Bin Laden did. Why was the “shock and awe” not directed at the man responsible?

You have a lot of nerve calling someone ignorant and accusing me of not listening to anyone who disagrees with their opinion, Dusty. I listen to people all the time who disagree with me.

You, Dusty, are the epitome of ignorance, and your constant chirping day after day, when you say absolutely nothing, is well, for lack of better words, trite and banal.

Don’t worry about my son, he is a very open-minded kid, because his parents are very open-minded people.

Also, please do not ever pretend to think or assume what I will write, you might just be surprised.

By RE

August 24, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I believe you.

To lie is to knowingly provide an incorrect statement.

I do not think that you know you are wrong, and therefore you do not lie.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

-=-

Hey MM -

Yes we had a surplus thanks to Clinton —

—and when Perdue took office we still had the states Rainy Day fund that hadn’t been spent in (lol) HOW many years? Didn’t take long for the Georgia GOP to spend that money either!

-=-

Andy I was just saying there were muslims that died in the tragedy of the World Trade Center too. The WTC contained corporate entities from around the world, and there were people lost of all nationalities and religions. But I guess you limit the tragic loss to just good ol’ USA god fearing Christians. Everyone else don’t matter to you..

After the WTC attack - we had the world behind us in hunting for Bin Laden and the terrorist.

Now after Iraq we have the world turning their backs on us as we are now the attackers!…

Hail Chicken Caesar! Our Glorious leader!

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Bosch, thanks. But I just call ‘em as I see ‘em.

In some ways I think President Bush has it even tougher than Nixon did in trying to extricate us from Nam.

And obviously as Nixon did not make the decision to go there in the first place, it gave him some “breathing room”. Something this President will never have.

Back then we were losing so many men every single day, week and month, there was a tremendous sense of urgency, by the progressives, liberals and eventually even mainstream “conservative” Americans to stop the KIA numbers from growing.

But as we are “only” losing 14 here or six there, or eight a week, the commander-in-chief has the “luxury” of waiting it out longer and the anti-war voice is not nearly as united or powerful.

But in both cases the majority of Americans would come to see that the value, the results, the outcome were simply not anywhere near the price. In both lives and dollars.

In other words, we sere sold a bill of goods.

But I sense that the momentum is growing and it is soon going to be a very strong element for change, both overseas, and in the makeup of the elected leaders of our government.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

{{At one time, citizenship required some loyalty to the government of the United States and its elected officials. It seems that time is passe’.}}

Dust-For-DUH, so I’m sure you’ll admit that you stood and saluted all the Dems’ presidents of the past, no matter what their policies were — stood there and showed your loyalty to Kennedy, LBJ, Carter and Clinton, no matter what. Correct, Dust-DUH???

Let’s hear of it, Dust-DUH, the exact extent of your “loyalty” to our elected officials, ALWAYS…

By GodHatesTrash

August 24, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Mike - the rednecks are up in arms about Terri Schaivo being used in this cartoon.

She’s the patron saint of the brain dead, no wonder they love her.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Robin- dust ball is our troll in residence…she cowers however when she is specifically addressed with real issues. See…watch this…

Here you go again, dust ball…bin laden sucks rocks!!! and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of terrorist everywhere!

Why do you support this war, dust ball, BD, RW…anyone? Can you read me? Am I really here? are you really there? do you have any real beliefs? Can you answer this one question? Ever?

Whoa - dust ball you have angered the bosch…congrads! Bosch is one of the most level-headed, even-tempered bloggers on here and you got a rise out of him…we now elevate you to the duh level.

I’m voting a Bosch/Amvet ticket!

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

{{Or on Dharfur, recognize there’s no vital national interest and, even if they want to “do something” are leery of more moral imperialism.}}

Paul, you forgot to add to your last sentence, “thanks to the Bush & Cheney policies for the past 7 years!”

Glad to help you out, Dude.

By getalife

August 24, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

I think dusty is lying.

She is a wingnut, they all lie.

Geez.

By Spike

August 24, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Ms. Midori: I see where the sad collection of neocons here seem to be upping their cowardly, disgusting attacks upon you. Let’s talk about that for a moment. I always called/call such people “LITTLE wee-wee guys.” Pay them no mind and forever remember precisely what and whom they are. Their every waking hour is spent in devotion to attempting to prove to their little word but especially themselves - their “masculinity” factor. Of course they know not the meaning or most basic definition of that word, and will never, ever even learn how to begin to tap on that door. These little people are filled w hatred, bitterness, jealousy, envy, failure and much more.

They live half-lives which become self-sustaining, oft times appearing to be outwardly solvent, but at all times are inwardly bankrupt. unexamined lives which are not worth living.

As a female, you represent everything in life of which they are terrified. For them and their deep indsecurities your only place is to be useful, usable, be it for sex, cooking, cleaning, or just being a part-time companion who is in the room and who mercifully interrupts the need for them to ever think about themselves or whom or what they are. The latter is the most terrifying thought of them all. Their world consists of controlling the woman, the unfortunate kids, the dog. They have the ability to insult, mistreat, and abuse those 3 entities without chancing to have their heads broken by an angry, righteous fist. These then, are the gutless, patriotic, neocon freaks who attack you. Much like Fall leaves, they are blown by the wind from one gutter to another. Their terror of anything female is both long and legendary.

These angry, dull drones, deciples of weakness and hate, have chosen to join the Party Of Hate, and they cling to it like a life raft. It’s what keeps them afloat. They are entirely unteachable and totally forgettable. They are today’s would-be Brownshirts. They are evidence, my friend, of the fact that there are worse things in life than…death. You witness them here every day. BD, RW, Duh, Dustmite, so many more. Living lives of quiet desperation, they will never escape their failures. Drawn to the Party like moths to the light.

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Hagel isn’t perfect, but at least he has a spine and I’d call this walking through the door:

On immigration, Senator Hagel supports a “pathway to citizenship” and a “guest worker program” for illegal aliens, which opponents call an amnesty. On May 25, 2006 he voted for S. 2611, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, which passed the Senate before reaching a stalemate in the House in late 2006.

On June 26, Hagel joined with Senator Ted Kennedy to support the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 (S. 1639).

In July 2007, Hagel was one of three Republican Senators who supported the legislation proposed by Democrats to require a troop withdrawal to begin within 120 days. “This thing is really coming undone quickly, and Maliki’s government is weaker by the day. The police are corrupt, top to bottom. The oil problem is a huge problem. They still can’t get anything through the parliament — no hydrocarbon law, no de-Baathification law, no provincial elections,”

In Aug. 2005, he compared the Iraq War to Vietnam and openly mocked Vice President Dick Cheney’s assertion that the Iraqi insurgency was in its “last throes.”

In Nov. 2005, he made a much-publicized statement: “To question your government is not unpatriotic — to not question your government is unpatriotic.” This was in reference to the increasing amount of debate surrounding the Iraq War, and his assertion that the United States should withdraw its troops.

In December 2005, in reference to Bush, the GOP, and the PATRIOT Act, he made a much-publicized statement: “I took an oath of office to the Constitution, I didn’t take an oath of office to my party or my president.”

In Jan. 2006, he took issue with Karl Rove over controversial statements the White House adviser made concerning the mindset of Republicans and Democrats. Hagel said, “Well, I didn’t like what Mr. Rove said, because it frames terrorism and the issue of terrorism and everything that goes with it, whether it’s the renewal of the Patriot Act or the NSA wiretapping, in a political context.” He also said that “dark clouds” are hanging over the Republican party”, and “If you look at the environment and the atmospherics politically in this town, read any poll. The sixth year of a governing party usually … is n

By N-GA

August 24, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

mm,

There was plenty of National Debt when Bush took office. There was no budget deficit!! You need to understand the difference.

By GodHatesTrash

August 24, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Dusty never lies.

The too stupid never need to lie. Everything they say is just pure BS.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

{{I am not a liberal. I do not lie.}}

Dusty-DUH, No you’re not. And Yes, you do — you lie every weekday that you post your pseudo-patriotic garbage here and then accuse others of being “traitors” because they don’t line up behind YOU and your delusional ideas of what being a patriot means.

LSOS (lying sack o’ shi-ite).

By RE

August 24, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Patron saint of the brain dead.

Kinda mean, but funny.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

{{First, we must recognize that we have few good options in Iraq and that we are dealing with dynamics that lie mostly beyond our control.}}

Thank you, AmVet — are you considering running for elected office in the near future?

By getalife

August 24, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Blindly total support for this government is ignorant.

I do not think dusty is educated, worked with Indians or has children.

He is a troll paid by the AJC to bait bloggers.

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

bosch 1:32

You are absolutely incomprehensible. So the elected President of our country is not President and did not serve in the military. Are you blind or living in another world or something? (And you have used that “spitting Coke over your desk” bit over and over.)

We did attack terrorism from the start. You probably were not interested because 9/11 did not harm your family.

After Afghanistan, Bush firmly believed aggresion with WMD thrived in Iraq. He was not wrong. We have found only traces of WMD but plenty of aggresive terrorists. Bush has the foresight to attack them now and in Iraq.

You have NO foresight about terrorism because you believe the safety of your family is not threatened. That may be true because George Bush has taken the steps to keep Americans safe. Our homeland defense and our troops are fighting for US.

I hope your sons take after their mother and learn much at Vanderbilt.

As to trite and banal, I’d rather be that than sound like a traitor.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

RE 12:52

Exactly! That didn’t accumulate overnight - or solely under the current President. People were blithely oblivious as long as they got their “gimmies” and someone else had to pay.

You want to feel really ill? Look at the Medicare/Medicaid projections. What was that song from way back when? “You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet, b-b-b-b-baby, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

And we won’t as long as we respond to sloganeering about making the greedy rich pay their fair share.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot, She crossed the line mentioning my son for one thing, however, I didn’t mean it to be an “angry” post - at least that was my intention.

One skill that I am quite proud of is my ability to argue or debate without raising my voice. It drives the other Bosch COMPLETELY insane! I love it.

By mm

August 24, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

RE,

Agreed. Clinton had a budget surplus, but we still had a national debt.

National debt history

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Continued from above:

Hagel further criticized the Bush administration, saying, “National security is more important than the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. And to use it to try and get someone elected will ultimately end up in defeat and disaster for that political party.”

In July 2006, Hagel again took issue with the Bush administration, this time on its handling of the Israel-Lebanon issue saying “The sickening slaughter on both sides must end and it must end now. President Bush must call for an immediate cease-fire. This madness must stop.”

After Republican losses in the 2006 midterm election, Hagel penned an editorial in the Washington Post highly critical of military strategies both employed and proposed for Iraq. He unequivocally declared that “There will be no victory or defeat for the United States in Iraq,” and called for a “phased troop withdrawal”—making Hagel one of the most prominent voices in his party to do so.

According to a SurveyUSA poll, Hagel has a 10% higher approval rating among Nebraska Democrats than Republicans. OnTheIssues.org rates Hagel as a “libertarian-leaning conservative.”

In January 2007, Hagel openly criticized President Bush’s plan to send an additional 20,000 additional troops to Iraq. He called it, “the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam, if it’s carried out.”

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Police disguised as masked demonstrators tried to incite violence at the North American leaders’ summit in Montebello, Que., on Monday protesters say, after footage of the incident was posted on YouTube Tuesday.

I WONDER IF THIS TACTIC IS IN HERE

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

AmVet, Americans are mostly too A-D-D to remember anything. Hell, I’m too A-D-D to read your posts today, but they are mark on - again, good job.

(What with Dusty making me spit Coke all over the place……..dammit…………..)

By Hey Mr Dusty

August 24, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

{{{We did attack terrorism from the start. You probably were not interested because 9/11 did not harm your family.

After Afghanistan, Bush firmly believed aggresion with WMD thrived in Iraq. He was not wrong. We have found only traces of WMD but plenty of aggresive terrorists. Bush has the foresight to attack them now and in Iraq. }}}}

Ha Ha Ha HA Hee Heee Guffaw Giggle

Ho Ho Ho

HaHaha

gotta stop laughing

gonna pee

By Spike

August 24, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Midori. (continuing): The atmosphere of a nger and jealousey and self-failure allows them, in their strange minds, to somehow needfully “idfentify” w and pretend to think and be like the very wealthy members of our society. They are America’s brand of…terrorist. They “support the troops” because they never ARE the troops.

The entire lot of them cannot possibly compete with you, verbally or in any other way. They are cowardly little Neo-facists thinly disguised as freedom-loving, Super-Christie Repubs. Pay them no serious mind - but do allow them to continue to splash about in their own intellectual, moral, ethical cesspool. Observe them as you would a germ under a microscope. Watch them surge on to…obscurity. They are America’s brand of terrorist.

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

{Thank you, AmVet — are you considering running for elected office in the near future?}

Heavens NO Goldie!

And as much as I despised his politics, I always thought that it would be fun to be a Karl Rove type of figure.

Somebody behind the scenes who helps someone with far more charisma, intellect and vision than I, affect policy.

(I know you’re wondering how does that apply to Karl Rove?! But you get the point!)

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Dust ball…wait wait wait…I was making a sale and missed your brief visit…tell me please…please, please, please, please tell me…tell me please!!!

WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS WAR?

By gtengineer

August 24, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

dusty, you are incorrect… after Afghanistan Bush firmly believed it would be a great time to sucker the american people to do his biding!

he long hated how his daddy was criticized for ‘not finishing the job’, he hated how his daddy lost his reelection over it… he hated that sadam husien tried to assassinate his daddy

he even tellingly referred to sadam as “the guy who tried to kill my dad” in the lead up to the iraqi massacre

that quote alone tells his prejudices leading into the war, that he obviously had his mind made up to invade iraq in 2001 lol. This pathetic man and his lies are responsible for70,000+ dead women and children

By Hey Mr AmVet

August 24, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

I stand corrected.

Hagel voted with Dems in APril on withdrawal.

I just always have to check it out for myself.

By getalife

August 24, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

“Texas Carries Out 400th Execution - Bush Wants To End Appeals Process For Death Row Inmates”

Pro life eh?

More like pro death.

Repent wingnuts.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

August 24, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

I think I speak for most Georgians.

We support the war because we’re losers, and we want to take everybody down with us.

We ain’t genocidal - we’re apocolyptical!

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

Raised @ 2:08— lookout now… You may be spitting up your Coke like Bosch, or you may just hurl your lunch instead. Be careful when you ask these trolls to explain themselves!

By AmVet

August 24, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Duty calls, so I’m gone for the day.

And after that, it’s time for a nice cold beer!

Have a great weekend one and all!

STOP THE WAR

By RE

August 24, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The only candidate, well kinda candidate I have heard even mention the national debt and the need to prepare for future expenses is Fred Thompson. And he will not commit to keeping taxes at current levels. Who would have thought that fiscal responsibility might return to the GOP. If any of this gets out, he will be dead in the GOP primary however.

Past GOP core values:

fiscal responsibility

conservative foriegn policy

lower government spending

Current GOP values:

Don’t raise my taxes!

By getalife

August 24, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

“We Need a Saddam to replace Saddam: Operation Strongman”

Geez,

Just geez.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Dusty, “So the elected President of our country is not President” Where did I write that, sweetie?

George Bush’s “military” record is a JOKE (are you with me there AmVet?). How hypocritical for you to praise our troops day in and day out and then declare our president some kind of military hero. He doesn’t deserve to lick the boots of any soldier that serves in the United States military. Good GOD!

You have me mistaken, I care a whole lot about terrorism, Bush does not, apparently because of his stubborness in Iraq and complete disregard for going after the people who caused 9/11. I feel my family and friends are more in danger of getting killed by a terrorist now more than ever - and believe me, I care about that alot.

What homeland defense are you talking about Dusty? The defense that allows millions of people to sneak over our borders every day carrying with them God knows what? Or the defense at our ports that inspect all the poisoned food and products we get from China? Now, I’ll give you airports, they seem pretty secure because I get pulled aside and searched every time I go through (maybe the security people think I’m hot).

Dusty, there were no WMDs in Iraq or aggressive terrorists in March 2003, - there are NOW plenty of aggressive terrorists waiting to blow our brains out the second they get the chance thanks to our glorious commander-in-chief.

Our troops used to be fighting for us, but now they are just sitting targets in a civil war - and unlike you, that really makes me sick to think about our fine soldiers getting killed day in and day out.

I’ll say it again, Dusty, hell, I’ll even put it in big capital letters just for you:

GEORGE W. BUSH IS A TRAITOR! HE BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot 12:57

LOL! Funny, I’ve never seen a stereotype of a “red-faced beer bellies” as a blue-state northeasterner listening to Air America - but that was really cute -

AmVet 1:00

And can we finally have a real energy policy that’ll make importing Mideast oil a memory?

getalife 1:02

One word: Nader.

Wait, that was three words… now it’s up to eight…

Bosch 1:07

O-kay - I get the concept - not the word I would select - but I get the concept.

mm 1:24 [[There was no debt when Bush took office.]]

Possibly you mean “deficit” (yearly amount) as opposed to “national debt” (sum of the yearly deficits)?

Peoples for a Nuked 1:35

Actually, the national debt about the time Clinton left office was $5.7 trillion. To his credit, he paid down the debt by around $355 billion. He was really a closet Republican, as Pres Bush is really a closet Democrat. Deal with it.

AmVet 1:35 [[In some ways I think President Bush has it even tougher than Nixon did in trying to extricate us from Nam.]]

Yup. Southeast Asia wasn’t much of a strategic interest (people lost interest in dominoes) by then. Southwest Asia, on the other hand. We’re still addicted to oil. And then there’s the matter of those jihadists, who want to kill us - whether we want their oil or not. It’s an ideology thing -

PS - remember the New Hampshire senator - when - 1969? - who said “Let’s just declare a victory and go home”?

Goldie 1:46

Sure thing. Ain’t cooperation grand? Seriously, one could make the case that, if Iraq had never happened, the policies of military intervention for moral purposes (see Clinton Administration) could have led to other many other interventions - wherein we could have become as embroiled as we are today.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Goldie - sht, its so hot here, a coke shower would be a welcome relief! Does anybody have any idea how much to ask for a real stuffed 4’ alligator?

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Getalife @ 2:13— a more accurate description might be “pro-fetus”… it’s understood that after birth, they have little care for the resulting human being and his/her needs. They will fight anything that might raise their “taxes” (God forbid they should have to pay for anything outside of their own personal needs!), such as programs that might support poor mothers and their even poorer children… and heaven forbid any of those poor children ever become “juv-nile delink-wints”, because they may just have to get the death penalty (especially if they live in the south or Texas).

See Bush’s Texas for illustration.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

““You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet, b-b-b-b-baby, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.”

WHOA Baby! Paul’s getting crazy!

It’s Friday afternoon!

By Dusty

August 24, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Poor little libs, all excited because someone told the truth.

Goldie, that bit about supporting Clinton has been done over more times than bosch has spit out his coke. Relax. You are beginning to sound like getalife.

bosch, so wishing your son to do well at Vanderbilt is “crossing the line”? I also hoped he took after his mother. What’sa matter? You don’t like that? Mrs. bosch deserves a medal.

All you libs who pursue life, liberty and happiness with propaganda, drugs and alcohol….. enjoy your weekend and sober up. I shall look for you at church. Bye now..maybe..so long…….

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Typical @ 2:14 — or maybe they still support Bush’s war because they’re so deathly afraid of being WRONG about anything, just like their guy W… to them, it’s always most important to “look strong” and to “stand by your convictions, even when proven you’re an idiot”, correct?

By Paul

August 24, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

RE 2:18

And if history is a guide, if he declares it’s the last we’ll hear of it.

And the Dem policy seems to have shifted to “Ask not what you can give to your country, ask what you can get (as long as someone else pays - after all, you’re special).”

I know - broken record. But those core values - “lower gov’t spending” - but fix the bridges, inspect the food, screen cargo at ports, man the borders…. “don’t raise my taxes” - “I just said I wanted it, I didn’t say I wanted to pay for it”… sigh….

By Hey Mr Paul

August 24, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

“”Pres Bush is really a closet Democrat.”“”

Evil Lie

Putz

By Gonna Love 08

August 24, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

After reading this blog i am so grateful my parents moved back to Texas from Atlanta when i was a kid, it is obvious that education takes a back seat in Georgia.

Our King George who before wanted no part of connecting Iraq with Vietnam now makes the distinction that we left Nam to early, This from a man who never set foot in the country while wearing a uniform. King George also showed that having an Ivy league education does not make you smart. If it did he would see that Vietnam is a thriving country these days, unlike the country he pretends to rule. I is for Ignorant and Dusty dont seem to follow the news or history very closely, since everything bad that has happened on Dubyas watch is all Clintons fault or the Dems. These people blindly goose step with George and Dick every morning and shut out what is happening in the real world. Oh and I is for Ignorant, do you get your talking points from your pillow chats with Rove? You sound just like him…..

By Midori

August 24, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Spike,

thanks for your kind words.

and then there’s this

the party of hate.

the party of intolerance.

the party of losers.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

-=-

LOL @ Paul — Clinton was a closet republican…

So let me get his straight…

George Bush (Senior) - Increased our National Debt..

Bill Clinton - Reduced our National Debt..

George Bush (Dubya) - Increased our National Debt to an outlandish never before seen size…

So when you take it all in - Bill Clinton is the Real “Conservative” President — LMFAO….

Cheers’

Thomas

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Now I’m with Paul @ 2:26—

“And can we finally have a real energy policy that’ll make importing Mideast oil a memory?”

Hell yeah Dude — it’s the only way to dry up those terrorist nations in the Middle East!

I’m always amazed that we have the smarts to release new and improved “X-boxes” or cellphone-web-browsers even 6 months or so… like we all need more of that stuff in our lives! And yet we just can’t seem to extricate ourselves from building cars that still rely on the black goop that we can suck outta the ground in the Middle East. What IS that all about, really???

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

“Poor little libs, all excited because someone told the truth”

Yeah, that would be ME!

Sorry, I couldn’t resist :-)

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

That’s a noble sentiment, Dusters. I mean, obviously if you’re not lying about your children they did not take after you in the least, so that’s nice.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 24, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

“He told me personally that he can’t go and fight the Americans and their country. But if he manages to provoke them and bring them to the Middle East and to their Muslim worlds, where he can find them or fight them on his own turf, he will actually teach them a lesson,” Atwan said. “It seems the invasion of Iraq fulfilled Osama bin Laden’s wish. That’s why the Americans are losing in Iraq.”

We’ve shown him how wrong he was haven’t we?

RWNJIFG

By Paul

August 24, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Paul 12:37

Okay, take out the word “closet.”

Happy now?

I notice you weren’t upset with Pres Clinton being identified as a closet Republican…

Midori 2:38

What happened to the party of “uniters, not dividers?”

Sorry - old time’s sake.

By Typical Georgia Redneck

August 24, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

nah, Goldie - we’re just homicidal suicidal idiotic trash, we hate life and everything in it. Let’s face it - we’re a joyless, soulless lot - a cancer.

We just want to go out in a blaze of glory, we ain’t done nothin’ right our whole lives, might just as well take a bunch of them sumbritches with us.

By Hey Mr Dusty Danish

August 24, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Poor little libs, all excited because someone told the truth.

Yes, mam…BUT IT WAS NOT YOU

Liberals always get excited by the truth.

The truth only hurts Putz’s like you.

””“All you libs who pursue life, liberty and happiness with propaganda, drugs and alcohol”“”“

Not quite accurate, first we dismiss your propaganda.

Second, drugs? You really are a pig.

Alcohol, like water into wine you mean? Ask ‘em at church tomorrow.

By the way where do you attend?

The Assembly of the Intellectually Constipated?

The Chapel of Holy Hypocrisy?

First United Neocons?

Temple Bush Cheney?

Church of the Wholly Ignorant?

Basilica of Saints Karl and Scooter?

Putz

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Thomas/Peoples @ 2:40 — well, it IS true that Clinton showed America how the Dems can now be called the “Party For Fiscal Responsibility”. After all, the Repugs gave up that moniker during the Ray-gun/Bush regime…

By Hey Mr Paul

August 24, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

””“And the Dem policy seems to have shifted to “Ask not what you can give to your country, ask what you can get (as long as someone else pays - after all, you’re special).”“

As the pressure increases so do your LIES

By Midori

August 24, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

{{{Poor little libs, all excited because someone told the truth.}}}}

The only truth Crusty knows is how cheap it is for an illegal alien to cut her grass.

She wouldn’t know the “truth” if it slapped her in her stupid, dumb slogan blathering mouth with a 2 by 4.

By Hey Mr Paul

August 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Just how familiar are you with closets?

In it now?

By rushncap

August 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

And another Republican bites the dust. At this rate we’ll have an all-Democratic Congress by next election. That would be kinda fun…

By bon scott

August 24, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

President Bush proved that he is living in another dimension when he was obscene enough to compare Vietnam with Iraq in his speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars..

Bush’s Vietnam Blunder - Jim Hoagland, Washington Post

Read it and weep. Nixon’s saving grace is that he got us out of a useless war that he didn’t get us into. That moron Bush has no such excuse.

I can’t wait for ‘08. Even Hillary or Alfred E. Newman would be more effective in the White House than the Confederacy of Dunces we have now.

And don’t get me started about the US’s House Of (credit card) War Supported Economy.

By Midori

August 24, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Lessons young George W. Bush learned from Viet Nam

By IN THE NEWS

August 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

White House Moving The Goal Posts On Escalation, Drops Demands For Iraqi Political Reconciliation

By Gonna Love 08

August 24, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Hey all of you GOP lovers who fought so hard for Scooters injustice, why dont you fight for this soldier? For Spc. Parmenter that decision was asking for a compassionate reassignment to a base where his 4-year-old autistic son Caleb could get help. His wife just gave birth three weeks ago, and is still recovering from a problem pregnancy.

But instead of reassigning him, the army ordered him back to Iraq.

That is, until today, when his reassignment was finally approved.

“This makes a huge difference for our family. I mean, it’s so critical at this time, especially for Caleb and all of us to be together,” said Spc. Parmenter.

“Caleb is finally going to get the education that he needs and the medical care he needs,” said Ms. Lyngard.

But along with the family’s happiness and excitement came surprise and disappointment. The army says once Parmenter finishes his eight-year military career next spring, he will not be allowed to re-enlist.

“After serving two tours and my family making sacrifices as much as they have, it really is a slap in the face,” Spc. Parmenter said.

“It’s almost childish if you think about it. Ryan wasn’t asking to get out of the military. He was asking to be put in a place where his family could get medical care,” Ms. Lyngard added.

Only in Dubyas army could this happen

By mm

August 24, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

11 step intervention program for wingnuts in denial

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Paul - “I know - broken record. But those core values - “lower gov’t spending” - but fix the bridges, inspect the food, screen cargo at ports, man the borders…. “don’t raise my taxes” - “I just said I wanted it, I didn’t say I wanted to pay for it”… sigh….”

none of us were born into reality…we were born in the USA! (the boss playing in the background)The American people have no world view concept at all…we only know what we are told…thats why dust ball is going to church sunday…to get her orders from HQ. I don’t care who is a closet what…I just want somebody to get REAL…and bring our boys home.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

“The Assembly of the Intellectually Constipated?

The Chapel of Holy Hypocrisy?

First United Neocons?

Temple Bush Cheney?

Church of the Wholly Ignorant?

Basilica of Saints Karl and Scooter?”

Dammit! There goes my Coke again and this time it came out my nose!

Dammit, dammit, dammit!

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

I’m with Bill Maher when he proposes that America can no longer be allowed to elect a prez from the state of Texas — first we had LBJ (who was a “Texas Dem” which is really a closet-Repug), and now this small-minded, big-eared imperialist who is a role-model for the “Ugly American”, as the rest of the world sees us… so I guess we have to disqualify Brownback now, and Ron Paul?

Oh well, no big love-loss there!

By RE

August 24, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

There is still a large enough population out there who believe that they can get something for nothing, these are the lower my taxes crowd. Without a doubt there is wasteful spending, a mentality in governmental agencies that the primary goal is to have a larger budget next year, and of course everyone wants a strong military.

I kind of think of it like this, say you need a babysitter to watch the kids, so you try out a few different people.

One babysitter, lets call her connie is an old lady who only serves the kids healthy food, makes sure they do thier homework, doesn’t let them stay up late or watch TV. She is tough and demanding and rough to work with.

Connie has a daughter, lets call her neo-connie who lets the kids run wild, tell them they can put off doing thier homework, lets them watch whatever they want on TV, and lets them eat pizza and soda all night.

The other babysitter, Demi treats the kids just like neo-connie, except that she nags alot, but brings the kids a toy everytime she comes over.

If the kids get to decide who they will have as a babysitter, which one will they choose.

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

FOX just reported that Michael Vick just pled guilty to a reduced charge of violation the baggy-saggy pants ordinance but his sentence was suspended cause it were the dingo what pulled his pants down…..

By steve-o

August 24, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

A few years ago, I heard that some college kids referred to the feeling that they get after smoking copious amounts of cannibis as getting “Schiavoed”.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

{{Read it and weep. Nixon’s saving grace is that he got us out of a useless war that he didn’t get us into.}}

Bon scott— I used to believe those were miserable times for America, living under Nixon’s rule. And I believed after he resigned that it would never be that bad again in America…

But, Holy Shi-ite — look what we have going on today in the White House, and once again America is foundering due to the abuse it’s taking from the Bush-bots! Like the W.H. is taken over again by a bunch of Mafia drug-runners!

By Paul

August 24, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Goldie 2:41

I was afraid I was being too repetitious. To recap a few points:

our interest in the Middle East is petroleum-derived

oil is a national security issue

people make certain choices (buying a vehicle) for personal, emotional reasons. The “greater national good” is a minor element, at best

the accumulated effect of these “personal choices” is a huge and growing demand for oil

subsidizing agribusiness (and driving up food costs) through ethanol subsidies ain’t gonna cut it. Are we really serious? Tariffs on South American ethanol? Not serious.

certain elements of “free markets” “unfettered choice” should be minimized for the national good. By that I mean fuel standards, possibly other means to reduce consumption while giving people the widest choice possible.

certain broad, encompassing programs for which there is currently no “market” should be initiated by the national gov’t. See Ike and the highway system. Think: alternate energy, including infrastructure.

There is a big debate between betting on developments derived from current techology and betting on new technology. The stakes are high. I tend towards the second.

petroleum companies are in the business of… petroleum! And making money. Nothing wrong with that. But to have Congress legislate how they’ll invest capital and pursue business interests is a bit nutty.

both Parties have blown it for the past 30 years. But that’s done. I’m looking for leadership and vision now. Haven’t seen it.

The follow-on: no oil from the Middle East, jihadists still want their caliphate. They will still try to engage America to encourage alliances with the ME gov’ts - and bring about revolution. Disengaging from them economically won’t solve the jihadist problem. But that’s another topic.

(RWNJIFG - just read your post. Seems the idea’s gaining traction. Can’t counter an enemy effectively if you don’t know his plans).

Hey Mr. Paul 2:46

Give getalife back his bong! Now! (It’s called “special interest group politics.” Reps do it too - just not as well).

and your 2:51: just redecorating. What the heck is fuschia?

By getalife

August 24, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Nugent: “I was in Chicago last week I said—Hey Obama, you might want to suck on one of these you punk? Obama, he’s a piece of s** and I told him to suck on one of my machine guns…Let’s hear it for them. I was in NY and I said hey Hillary—you might want to ride one of these into the sunset you worthless b***…Since I’m in California, I’m gonna find– she might wanna suck on my machine gun! Hey, Dianne Feinstein, ride one of these you worthless w*******. Any questions? Freeeeedom!”

Told ya wingnuts are dangerous. This guy is inciting violence with a machine gun in his hand at a concert.

He should be locked up by the Secret Service.

Geez, what a disgrace for rock and roll.

By Hey Mr Bosch

August 24, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Sorry.

Coke can burn like that!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

I remember when pot was so accepted by all quarters that we would all say, “dont hepburn that joint”.

Bogart/Hepburn. It started out as dont bogart that joint (from the song) or maybe the song was from the usage, BUT it got used so much that variations grew out of it, like Far Out became Farm Out, etc.

We were morons, but we were happy.

no longer.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Bosch - Jihadist Witness…Shameful Bush Advocates

By Gonna Love 08

August 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Dubya is not from Texas, he is from Connecticut. Just because he lives here does not make him a Texan, most Texas are appaled that he claims he is from our great state.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Paul, So, how do YOU feel about Sam Nunn? Just curious.

Those pesky jihadists, they make everything SOOOOOO complicated.

Hey, I just thought of something, did you, by any chance, catch that special on CNN, “God’s Warriors?” I’ve gone to bed the past three nights simply terrified - the Christian segment was last night and they had that freak Ron Luce featured. He is a scary freak. I love Christiane Amanpour. She made that freak look like an idiot - I think I have a crush on Christiane.

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

{{petroleum companies are in the business of… petroleum! And making money. Nothing wrong with that. }}

Paul— and to have “petroleum companies” working with Cheney to form our “energy policies” IS WRONG. Just one reason why America can’t wait until more Dems are elected in ‘08!

By Hey Ms may have raised but is not an idiot

August 24, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Jihadist Witness

Great One

How about the Church of the Latter Day Snobs?

Roman Colonic?

Rythm Methodists?

By Hey Mr 08

August 24, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Connecticut

an EASTERN state

isn’t the anti-christ supposed to rise from the EAST?

By Goldie

August 24, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Once again, it’s been real fun today, my blog-friends… I’m off to my music lesson and don’t know if I’ll be back in time for “last call” today — if not, please feel free to have a sip of pinot for me!

P&L (peace & love).

By GodHatesTrash

August 24, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

George = 6 letters Walker = 6 letters Bush*t = 6 letters

Hey Hey Mr 08 … You could be right..

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

Once again, the bloggers here display their total ignorance of Islam. All Islamics are jihadists. Jihad does not mean “holy war” unless you are an Islamist. Jihad for the 99.9999% of Muslims means “personal struggle”.

Personal struggle refers to the temptation to stay pious vs the lure of las vegas and viagra. Viva Viagra!!

Goofballs. If you want to blog humor, at least get the f’n premise correct.

I hate jokes with the wrong premise.

morons.

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

No, don’t worry GHT, Bush is too stupid to be the Anti-Christ,

By Paul

August 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Sam Nunn? Well, if he were starting out today, or running, I’m afraid he might get the Lieberman treatment.

As I recall, he had a fine mind, spoke what he thought, pushed through some good Defense reforms - and was pretty consistent with other politicians in bringing home the Defense $$$ - questionable need or not.

Haven’t seen the special, but I don’t worry too much about religious groups that don’t want to kill me for not following their latest missives. And I’m pretty confident the rest of the country has enough votes to counter them.

Forget Christianne. She’s here in the closet with me. And she doesn’t want out.

By Gonna Love 08

August 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

God Hates Trash,

Yep you are onto something, all his education came from the east, his High School Boarding school, both his Universities and now he lives there. We need to shave his head and check for the 666 mark…

By Paul

August 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Goldie 3:23

Like I said, the energy policy of this country for the past 30 years has been abysmal. The right of the Executive to have input from whomever they want aside, to rely upon traditional thinkers with a vested interest strikes me as a formula for… just what we’ve experienced for the last 30 years!

Freudian Slips 3:28

And the Saudi Wahabbist results from a couple decades in funding educational institutions, think tanks, researchers and teachers has been pretty effective in shaping the Reader’s Digest definitions.

Link: Jihad from someone who knows the culture

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Freud - why you gotta btch, dude? Lighten up - all religions are as funny as the first…I’ll make fun all I want…I gotta have free speech somewhere…I’d get lynched around here if I were verbal. Seriously, anybody here got a handle on the market value of dead alligators?

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Paul keeps trying to come out of the closet, but an old leisure suit keeps pulling him back in.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Freudian 3:59

Sorry, Christianne’s not into leisure suits -

By Bosch

August 24, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

“Forget Christianne. She’s here in the closet with me. And she doesn’t want out.”

Dammit, there goes my Coke AGAIN!

LOL!!!

Oh Paul you ARE BAD!!!!!

Raisedanidiot, Seriously? You have a 4’ stuffed alligator for sale? Cool. That thing is bigger than you, huh?

Freud - Lighten up. It’s Friday. Go dream about having sex with your mom or something like that.

By Can't Resist

August 24, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Two boys in DC were playing baseball when one was attacked by a rabid Rottweiler. Thinking quickly, the other boy ripped a board off a nearby fence, wedged it into the dog’s collar and twisted it, breaking the dog’s neck.

A newspaper reporter from a DC newspaper witnessed the incident and rushed over to interview the boy. The reporter began entering data into his laptop, beginning with the headline:

“Brave Young Loyal Bush Supporter Saves Friend from Jaws Of Vicious Animal”

“But I’m not a Bush Supporter,” the little hero interjected.

“Sorry” replied the reporter. “But since we’re in DC, I just assumed you were.” Hitting the delete key, the reporter began:

“Brave Republican Rescues Friend from Horrific Dog Attack”

“But I’m not a Republican either,” the boy responds.

The reporter says, “I assumed everybody in this state was either for Bush or Republican. Who are you for? ”

“I’m a Democrate and I really like John Edwards” the boy says.

Hitting the delete key, the reporter begins again: “Arrogant Little liberal pr!ck compromises nations security by killing security guard dog…”

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Bosch - Yeah, I don’t even know if I can sell it yet or not though…it’s actually about half my size because it’s been formed and altered. It’s in a standing position (as if an alligator walked upright) and it’s holding a little wooden plate…its eyes have been replaced and he has been painted on the under-belly. He’s pretty cute…in a sad sort of way.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Bosch

No Coke out my nose but just fell out of my swivel chair laughing!

Christianne thought it was funny, too. At least, I think that’s why she’s smiling!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

We could all be made to hate Islam, if the McRoves are allowed to write freely, and no opposing opinion is given.

Look at WW2 and the dirty nips. Need I say more? It’s propaganda, and we are all susceptible

Advertising works. Therefore one only has to broadcast hate and hate lives.

‘muff said.

It’s amazing that I’m the only one who has deduced that we are stuck, trapped like rats, in Iraq, and can never, ever leave.

Most of you think it’s just a simple matter of pulling out when Bush’s term expires.

We can physically leave, but we can never actually leave. They’ll send a photo-op number of troops home when Hillary takes over, but the majority of our troops will stay and by 2009, there will be 250K US troops in Baghdad….and that number will increase to 500K by 2015.

WE have to hold on to Iraq now that we’ve grabbed it by the tail, my friends.

Know it. Believe it. Accept it as word.

‘muff said. (I know all. I see all. I am retrorocket man!!)

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 24, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

{{{{By getalife August 24, 2007 3:14 PM Told ya wingnuts are dangerous. This guy is inciting violence with a machine gun in his hand at a concert.}}}}

al-Gitmo: I know you haven’t gotten out of the house in awhile but usually “suck” has nothing to do with violence.

Least with the women I hang with it don’t, I guess I can’t really answer for you freaks.

But whatever, it wasn’t that long ago you were posting Dylan’s hate and the Stone’s hate and I’m pretty sure you were quite gleeful about it.

Oh, they were hating on Bush, I forgot.

By Hey Mr Duh

August 24, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Is somebody impersonating our own dear little Duh?

“”usually “suck” has nothing to do with violence.

Least with the women I hang with it don’t, “”“”

that borders on the sexual!

OMG!

Women? Plural?

OMG!

What happened to the uptight, anal retentive, sexually repressed, over the top Jesus freak, we all know and love?

He’s been taken over by the pods.

By Paul

August 24, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot

Maybe you could post an ad in the FSU newspaper? Call it a toilet decoration? Or a cheerleader doll? Or Chief Osceola’s mascot? Lotsa bucks comin’ your way!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

duh was talkin’ ‘bout his sisters, moron.

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Geez Louise! You should see how much it costs to taxidermy these things…

Freud - we know, we know, we Know, WE KNOW! WE KNOW!!

By Hey Mr Slips

August 24, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

What’s he doing talking about

“”usually “suck” has nothing to do with violence”“

with his sisters?

Putz

By getalife

August 24, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Here is the video duh

Ted sounds just like Al Qaeda.

He is a traitor like you.

Geez.

By steve-o

August 24, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

getalife,

It’s funny, because wingnuts like Coulter and O’Reilly like to call Democrats “the party of hate”. Every night, O’Reilly complains about the “far-left” (which includes anyone to the left of Tom Tancredo) and their “hatespeak”. Wingnuts also like to use the childish term, “Bush-haters” when describing critics of the president. We’ll see what the wingnuts say about Nugent’s remarks which were utterly disgusting and classless.

…OH AND ANOTHER THING, I don’t want to hear any other wingnut cry and complain about rap music when this middle-age white rock star is on stage threatening to shoot actual people in gruesome ways!

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

steve-o - the GOP invents flip-flop, and runs all their campaigns accusing dems of flip-flop…go figure. Right is wrong…black is white…truth is false…I don’t know anything anymore…

did find some good comps on my gater friend though :)

By Paul

August 24, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

steve-o

Not what I heard on the Bill Maher interview. Incorrect about Dems as “party of hate.” Source? He distinguishes between Democrats - Left - Far Left. Challenges people all the time on lumping Far Left in with others. Does the same with Republican - Right Wing Haters. Funny it never came up in his interviews with Senator Kerry -

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

-=-

hey Raised —

Offer it to a Cajun Restaurant - maybe even Copelands…

I know an average florida price for just an Alligator head comes to 29 dollars. Obviously a full stuffed gator would be worth a lot more —

Theres always E-bay too~! Check to see if anyone has gators for sale on E-bay

By Sailor

August 24, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

the sailor said Andi/e-duh, you’re a fine girl

Let me tell you get - Andi/e loves to suck on loaded guns - s/he’s a superfreak!

(S/he’s super freaky… apologies to the late great Rick James)

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 24, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Hey Mr Duh August 24, 2007 4:24 PM What happened to the uptight, anal retentive, sexually repressed, over the top Jesus freak, we all know and love?}}}}

Yes, you are correct, I should have used the singular “woman,” I was just recalling the many that came before I was saved.

It’s a personal thing between me and my Lord, you degenerate, mind your own business.

And this may come as a surprise to you, being that you are a liberal and probably have no idea, but sex can be used to create other life, in fact, if you don’t use it for that purpose every once in a while, you will cease to exist.

That’s why you see so many wingnuts nowadays.

And the liberal population is shrinking, you have aborted yourselves.

By Neo-Con Artist

August 24, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Just one correction, Steve-o, @ 4:48. It’s a very big stretch to call Nugent a “rock star”. He’s a head-banging bigot, nothing more. Does not come close to being a “star” of anything, as a matter of fact.

But you’re correct about all the moaning going on about “rap” all the time being too violent. It just ain’t true. Some rappers appeal to the baser instincts, and some head-bangers do the same.

By GodHatesTrash

August 24, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Nugent is a vile POS - like Andi/e-duh

How Nugent got out of the Vietnam draft:

He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. “… but if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d killed all the hippies in the foxholes…I would have killed everybody.” - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990

By getalife

August 24, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Peace out people.

I hope Americans will come together with a real President.

Good luck and good night.

getalife has left the building er blog.

Peace.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

-=-

Hey Raised -

Here is something for you to compare it to - I think!

Apparently the standing mount is a common theme:

Cheers’

By Midori

August 24, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Jesus Christ, GodHatesTrash!!!!

IS THAT TRUE??????

By Paul

August 24, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Midori 5:10

Very true. Jesus Christ does hate trash. He told us to care for the planet. Live in harmony. Do unto others. Don’t make a mess. Be clean. See? No trash. Unless it’s redeemed. You can baptize it. Then it’s as good as new!

By Freudian Slips

August 24, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

I adore midori

By GodHatesTrash

August 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Yes, Midori.

Does it surprise you that an animal like Nugent is one of Andi/e-duh’s, Bi Danish’s, @@’s, Dusty’s, and RW’s heroes?

These people are mental and emotional defectives of the worst sort. Criminally insane.

Trash!

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Sorry…didn’t get that exactly right…its Gayder..not gater

PFNAC -yeah, I’d thought of that…good idea…FL Gator idea of Paul’s is good too. Looks like ebay might not be its top market…always a good last resort though.

Duh - it just occurred to me…it would be really cool to be stoned while reading your posts…oh well, you make me laugh anyway

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

-=-

Yes Midori — it’s True -

Here’s Good Ol’ Ted “The Sucker” Nugent

But of course Dubya’ “The Chicken Caesar” doesn’t hesitate to give Fellow Chicken Sqwakers — Medals for their valor of avoiding Nam’

Cheers’ —

By Joseph

August 24, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Spike. It’s a pleasure to read you. It’s also a pleasure to see the truth so accurately and decisively expressed. Thanks.

By Buy Danish

August 24, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

<<>>

Munchkin,

History began this morning for you,didn’t it? That 1969 article is now part of history and was part of the current events at that time. Roy Wilkins correctly predicted what would happen if we encouraged racial apartheid on campuses, which is more than the Goreacles can ever hope to accomplish.

{{{she wanted to learn French. In French theme housing she lived with some fluent speakers, and some people who wanted to learn it, like herself.}}}

Puhlease. Comparing a “french themed dorm” to a racially or ethnically segregated dorm is a juvenile and vacuous comparison. No one would suggest that studying French is racist, ethnocentric, or Balkanizing.

However, it is reasonable to suggest that ethno-centric dorms are a form of racist apartheid which are inherently hostile to other groups and certainly is a diversion from MLK’s dream that we judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

The fact that joining these groups is voluntary is also a silly point, since joining the KKK or Nazi Party was voluntary, but obviously that does not therefore make it right.

You also claim that Christians can live in separate housing, but look what happened at UNC, your alma mater and place of employ!

And recently, a Christian fraternity denied membership in Florida

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Nuked - thanks for the ebay link…I had seen those…not the right species though…mine’s a little bigger…a real Gaayyder as they would say around here…I hear that there’s a 20ft. one in our local lake….also I can see eyes at night out on the river where I live…see why I had such culture shock moving here from Atlanta?

By Neo-Con Artist

August 24, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, on a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how bigoted are you? Just a 10, or are you off the scale?

By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

BD - are you still here, freak? Answer my question about a real issue:

WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS WAR?!!

Nobody cares about your fantasy issues…invented by other freaks like you…cept you must be one of the more intelligent ones with statements like this one:

“That 1969 article is now part of history and was part of the current events at that time.”…duh

…its o.k. though B.D., I deal with your level of intelligence on a daily basis…wanna buy a gayder?

Peace out folks! Smoke em if you got em…and read Andy/Duh’s posts.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 24, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

-=-

Raised —-

In one post I noticed that it said these things usually sell for over a thousand dollars.

I used Taxidermy Alligator for my search at E-bay.

-=-

One of the NeoCon Nugent lovers speaks out on his hero The TED!

Is that You Andy? —

Cheers’

By moonbat betty

August 24, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

any you guys got a stuffed bald eagle you wanna sell?

i figured i would take up to the peace rally and hang it as a pinata.

By Buy Danish

August 24, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

{{{By raisedanidiot

August 24, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

BD - are you still here, freak? Answer my question about a real issue:

WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS WAR?!!}}}

Stillanidiot,

I’m sorry, but I am not under your imaginary command, and I will answer questions when and if I choose to do so.

I have not made one single comment about the War, so find someone else to harass.

If you want my opinions on the War on Terror, it’s all in the archives.

Have fun with that!

{{{…its o.k. though B.D., I deal with your level of intelligence on a daily basis…wanna buy a gayder?}}}

Did you mean to ask me if I wanted to buy a “gaydar”? Kerist you moonbats are terrible spellers (and freaking idiots to boot).

{{By Neo-Con Artist

August 24, 2007 5:42 PM |

Buy Danish, on a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how bigoted are you? Just a 10, or are you off the scale?}}}

NCA,

Why don’t you ask Stillanidiot that question? He’s the one peddling “Gayders” (SIC).

I’m guessing the idiot’s own gaydar is broken and he’s sporting a black eye. I bet he had fun dressing up like a NAZI storm trooper though.

Better luck next time, Dude.

By Carbon Footprint

August 27, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

Warner Robbins: World Champions!!

By rushncap

August 27, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Is nothing posting on here?

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 27, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

rushncrap: The AJC staff is too busy to turn on the comment window for the new cartoon.

All of them are over at Wooten’s posting immature, vulgar, idiotic and childish anti Republican comments.

Just like they do here everyday.

By Rovespierre

August 27, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Y-y-yeah! All the l-l-liberals are outing g-g-gay repudlickans over on wooten’s b-b-blog using their Goppler Gaydar!

And andy’s a m-m-moron!

By gtengineer

August 27, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

wow i was wondering how the repug-gluttons would try and spin the alberto thing… thank goodness that treasonous little man is out of there… at least the japanese aggricultural minister had the decency to hang himself, if only gonzalez had that much honor!

this whole mike vick thing, i don’t get it, mike vick who? who cares thats who! the outrage shown by so many americans is just silly, i don’t get it… there are REAL humans dying and being treated worse than mike vicks dogs… darfur slaughter continues as i write this, where’s the outrage for the murdered children? homeless people eating less than his dogs…