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By Duh stands for Democrats

August 10, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Geez, Hillary is trying to give Cheney a “Monica.”

Those Clintons get freaking wild when they get in the Oval Office, don’t they?

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{{{{But the New Republic seems not to have understood how the Kuwait “detail” undermines everything. After all, what made the purported story interesting enough to publish? Why did the New Republic run it? Because it fits perfectly into the most virulent narrative of the antiwar left.}}}}

I knew it was fake the first time I read it:

{{{{As his mess-hall buddy doubled over in laughter, Beauchamp continued: “In fact, I was thinking of getting some girls together and doing a photo shoot. Maybe for a calendar? ‘IED Babes.’ ” The woman fled.}}}}

This is a pretty easy riddle to solve, I, and any soldiers that I’ve ever met, would not have been “doubled over in laughter.”

We would have punched that loser in the eye.

End of fake story.

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{{{{More than half of Americans say US news organizations are politically biased, inaccurate the poll conducted by the Pew Research Center said.}}}}

I know one that is!

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{{{{AJC “Iraq Developments” Iranian officials told Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that only a U.S. pullout would bring peace to his nation and said the Tehran government was doing its best to help stabilize neighboring Iraq.}}}}

Either that or we could turn Iran into “pieces.”

By the way, isn’t it interesting that a religious tyrant, a tyrant that buries people in the ground up to their necks and stones them to death, would hold the same views on whether the U.S. should pull out of Iraq as the democrats do?

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{{{{Normal Americans just want Iraq handled. They want America to succeed: for the war to end in a way and time that prove if possible that the Iraq endeavor helped the world, or us, or didn’t make things worse for the world, or us. My hunch: The American people have concluded the war was a mistake, but know from their own lives that mistakes can be salvaged, and sometimes turned to good.}}}}

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

I wonder if the birth rate will rise exactly nine months after Hillary’s Cleavage Speech?

By saywhat?

August 10, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Yup. Spot on Mike. I’m waiting to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the right in 08 when they realize what they have done. It will be fun to produce all their arguments from the past 6 years in favor of what has been created during this time, when 2+ years from now they start screaming against it. Alas, it won’t do any good to confront their hypocrisy.Their ears will be deaf,their eyes shut tight and their minds closed to the glaringly obvious as they deny, deny, deny and create some outlandish revisionist history to explain it all away, and why its still Bill Clinton’s fault.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

saywhat?

I thought we’ve read the view here over and over again that it will take years and years and years for a Democratic President to undo all the damage wrought by Pres Bush? I thought a Democratic President would, from day one, press for legislation that would undo all the power that has accrued to the Executive?

Mr. L’s portrayal of Hillary’s “can’t wait” grin seems to indicate that just might not be the case. Noooo kidding. The irony is VP Cheney’s expression - as he views the monster he helped create (and put in office).

By Eric

August 10, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

I doubt cheney’s capable of GETTING a Monica. I’m thinking okra pod.

By Eric

August 10, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

I doubt cheney’s capable of GETTING a Monica. I’m thinking okra pod.

By The Watcher

August 10, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Okra Pod?

EEEEEK!

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

RW, I tried to answer your comment last night, but my posts kept getting dropped.

I do remember those guys running around the field with Hank when he broke Babe’s record, so that was a good point, I don’t know? But I do remember there were Barney Fife-ish policemen there too.

As I said, I had heard that story on NPR a little bit ago ago, and I thought it was interesting. I never knew that the race to beat Babe’s record was so intense - I didn’t know there were death threats, but then again I was a kid.

I just thought it was a good and interesting story. I’ve always had a lot of respect for Hank Aaron. IMHO, He never seemed to let fame go to his head like some do.

Have a good morning.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

There were death threats against Maris when he got 61. (another asterisk record of 165 game vs the 37 games they used to play when Ruth got 60)

There were death threats against Pete Rose when he went all in at world series of poker in 1977.

There were death threats from environmentalists when Brittany Spears shot that beaver.

The point is that there are always death threats no matter what mankind does. There are folks that think some people need killin’ no matter what. Good, clean killin’ is part of the american dream.

Hell, I think they shoulda hung Benedict Arnold’s wife cause she was in on the West Point treason, but acted so hysterical that George Washington let her go. (The first lewinski payoff?)

By IN THE NEWS

August 10, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Data-Mining Our Liberties

””“The Protect America Act, in short, does not live up to its name: It does not enhance security-related surveillance powers. Rather, it allows the government to spy when there is no security justification. And it abandons all but the pretense of oversight. The result, as with so many of this Administration’s ill-advised policies, is power without responsibility—and it is by now all too clear how wisely and carefully this Administration wields power in the absence of accountability. “”“

By Goldie

August 10, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Yep, here comes Hillary!

Of course, that’s the media’s prediction based on current polls. And we all know what happened to the “frontrunner” in the polls during the 2004 Dem primaries, too. Good ole Howard Dean!

By saywhat?

August 10, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I believe a more overwhelmingly Democratically controlled Congress would be able to limit some of that presidential power. I don’t believe Hillary would veto such legislation, but I don’t envision her pushing it either. I think Edwards, if elected (not holding my breath) would be most likely to initiate a scale back, but the temptation is going to be there for any President to use this power while it is available( and they will convince themselves its only for good) unless Congress cuts it off.I don’t foresee any of the dem presidential hopefuls making the over the top intense efforts toward a power grab like we have seen for the past 6 years though.

I don’t think Mike’s use of Hillary in the cartoon is so much an indictment of Hillary (though it might be, Mike?), but rather the embodiment of all things bad from a right wingnut perspective, an absurd caricature which the righties have been fomenting and building up to ridiculously epic proportions since 1992.

By the stopper

August 10, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Saywhat gave us: I’m waiting to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the right in 08 when they realize what they have done.

Yep. And it’s all because the righties honestly believed Karl Rove when he said they would have a “permanent majority.” They really believed that the Republican party would be in power forever.

Of course I’m hoping it’s not Hillary, but rather a non-corporatist in the White House come 1/2009, who’ll choose to devolve this ill-gotten Executive power.

But still—great toon, great point.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Hillary’s made some botched remarks lately and doesn’t appear so invincible, but the gaffs were short lived and probably not a long term problem.

The point is that Edwards is starting to emerge from Hillary’s shadow. When he speaks, he speaks calmly and when he addresses Healthcare, people are starting to believe.

If Edwards can avoid any overly liberal stances on other issues, then he’s going to move up in the polls.

By mountain man

August 10, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

I hope America is over its little fling with the false promises of the radical right. It certainly did what the Repugs wanted; took away wealth from the middle class and concentrated it with the elite.

Now if we can get a Democratic administration and a larger margin on the Hill, maybe we can rejoin the modern world and work on issues like universal health care and resolving the mid east situation in a mature and sane way.

The USA is an embarrassment. We treat our poor and downtrodden worse than a lot of third world countries.

I say it again. Bush and Cheney are worse than anyone could ever imagined them to be; without doubt the worse administration in our history and the very embodiment of unchecked power and corruption in office. They make me sick.

By @@

August 10, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Look at that overbite on Hillary. I’m reminded of the old expression “She can clean a COB (liberal) through a picket fence”. They won’t know what bit ‘em.

She’ll give knew meaning to the word “precedence”.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

My grandfather invented the Cobb Salad.

True.

It’s so hot that @@ gave me the cold shoulder…..and I liked it!

By Great Moments in Political Debate (NOT)

August 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

””“Look at that overbite on Hillary. “”“I’m reminded of the old expression “She can clean a COB (liberal) through a picket fence”. They won’t know what bit ‘em.”“”

Who does @@ think she is?

Swift Dental Hygienists for Truth?

By Say It Ain't So

August 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

‘Summer’ a poem by Abigail Elizabeth McIntyre

Sh|t !

It’s HOT !

By Paul

August 10, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

saywhat?

I agree with the first part - the larger issue is the relative power between the Executive and the Legislative. VP Cheney was quite open that he thought the Legislative had too much relative power (he was a Congressman, served as a Secretary, also as White House Chief of Staff, so he saw the relationships from those perspectives, over a long time). So he pursued his goal (not for himself or the Pres, as he knew the changes would remain after he left office).

But I agree: once gained, power is rarely voluntarily reduced, regardless of party affiliation. Same is true with Congressional committees (one reason for so much overlap).

I don’t see the ‘toon as a Hillary indictment or a representation of right-wing fears, just a jump to the likely Democrat who could hold the office, and once there, she’ll have the same “power” for which Cheney strove, which will make the Right nervous. It’d be interesting if it would make the Left nervous, also.

By RW-(the original)

August 10, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

It is an interesting story and one that’s probably grown into mythical proportions over time. I wouldn’t go so far as to slander all the 1974 Atlanta police, but maybe stadium security as a general rule wasn’t taken that seriously back then.

That being said, a plethora of serious death threats would certainly have led the team to involve the FBI which would tend to give these things a little more weight.

The fact that the crowd rose in unison with a thunderous ovation is a sure sign it wasn’t a prevalent thought and the fact that the only reaction from Hank was to smile and run the bases with the two white strangers that appeared beside him patting him on the back seems to be pretty convincing evidence that a racially motivated murder wasn’t nearly as much in the forefront of his thoughts as the narrative later became.

Paul,

Somehow I find it very hard to see how a CIC acting as a CIC is a power grab, especially in war time. It’s certainly not a power grab to have a coequal branch act as a coequal. So this seems to be just more hysterical moonbat(ic)® rhetoric to incite their sheep. (see: Goldie, getalife, the scribbler, etc)

I’m not sure if you really believe there has been a power grab or you’re just poking sharp sticks at the bee hive, but I’d be interested to read what you think is an unconstitutional usurpation of power by the Executive if you really think there has been one.

Later all, see you at Happy Hour perhaps.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 10, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Duh says: “By the way, isn’t it interesting that a religious tyrant, a tyrant that buries people in the ground up to their necks and stones them to death, would hold the same views on whether the U.S. should pull out of Iraq as the democrats do?”

It is so true. 70% of the American People would like to stone people like you to death. Most of America is exactly like Iran. Exactly. Almost everyone here is no different than the Ayatollah. And I do also find that interesting.

You know they say that adversity reveals charecter. Well, as you’ve pointed out the American charecter has been revealed as stupid, cowardly and traitorous. I’m glad there is someone like you out there who is willing to tell these truths about the American people. Usually you have to find a terrorist or a French waiter to say these sort of bad things about the American people.

I find it intersting that you agree with the terrorists that the American people are bad, don’t you?

RWNJIFG

By Paul

August 10, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

BlogFather 9:25

For a fine illustration, see the “nuke’em don’t nuke’em” article. You have to admire Hillary’s spin machine - it’s very good (and her supporters seem willing to accept explanations they’d characterize as “flip-flop” or “lies” from other candidates).

Link: Hillary and nukes

Paragraph 10 is great and leads to all sorts of questions (which won’t be asked, let alone answered), such as:

Can an answer to a “broad hypothetical” be in conflict with an answer to a specific derived from the broad hypothetical? If so, is the broad hypothetical answer a lie?

Do your views a Senator conflict with your views as a Presidential candidate? If so, what other views have changed? (Of course, she’s already said a Presidential candidate shouldn’t say everything she thinks…).

And on. But you get the idea.

Cheers -

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Dear great moments (NOT): Would that be SwiftMolars 4 Tooth?

By Elliemae

August 10, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

By mountain man August 10, 2007 9:25 A maybe we can rejoin the modern world and work on issues like universal health care and resolving the mid east situation in a mature and sane way.

Right on Mountain Man. What’s been happening is a total disgrace.

By the stopper

August 10, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Blogfather, about Edwards: just WTF are “overly liberal stances”?

Most so-called-“liberal” stances—equality of opportunity for all, a managed healthcare system instead of the Wild West we’ve endured for decades, cautious foreign entanglements, and so forth, are winners with the public.

I’m not playing “gotcha” here, I just want to know what you think Edwards believes, that would be politically disadvantageous to him, with voters at least (I realize that he has to forget about big corporate-funded 527s and the like going for him).

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

RW, I didn’t mean to give you or anyone else the impression that I thought there was a murderous plot to kill Hank Aaron during that time. I wasn’t trying to put anything more into it. I thought it was interesting, that’s all, nothing more. I was actually trying to let you know that I thought you had a good point to begin with.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike.

I see lots of karma coming for the gop.

Lets see what dick is up to:

“Cheney pushing for attack on Iran:

Vice President Dick Cheney has proposed launching airstrikes at suspected training camps in Iraq run by the Quds force, a special unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, according to two U.S. officials who are involved in Iran policy.”

Still war mongering. dick and w screw up Iraq and now want to screw up another third world country. Tough guy.

Pathetic, when China threatens to nuke our economy. The Saudis are blowing up our troops and they hold their hand. Russia is finishing the cold war but lets pick on third world countries.

Superpower?

Please.

Geez.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

getalife

Not trying to be difficult here, but what if OBL and his gang moved to Iran and had a nice little training camp going on about 20 miles from the border with Iraq? Lotsa Dems want to strike or invade Pakistan if we know where he is. Does it make a diff if we spot him in Iran?

BTW - I’d sanction a strike on the guy even if he was hanging out in Red Square.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

And Pakistan, where the ones who attacked us are hanging out.

The press asked w about Obama’s statement and he was correct.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Edwards should spend all his liberal capital on Healthcare and then gravitate toward the middle on everything else. He should Adopt a conservative but left of center platform, and he should soar with that healthcare stance.

The timing is right for any candidate that can convince America that he/she can change the healthcare system.

It’s so early, that the candidates have room to recover from gaffs. (and learn from them).

I expect the left and the right to start sounding like parrots as they avoid the pitfalls of a unique stand on any issue. Instead of attacking opponents, they should simply sound really presidential as they address an issue. Be themselves, and speak plainly, and let their personality win over voters.

It’s about how good you look and sound while you say what you’re saying. (never sound defensive)

The Pakistan remark by Obama illustrates this. The Islamists in Pakistan are galvanized by national security issues and fears of a preemptive strike by the US into Pakistan to get Bin Laden. Pakistan is unraveling, just as Bush’s think tank predicted it would if we let OBL escape there. In 2002, Rumsfeld was ordered to attack and he refused W’s order in time of war, and that’s treason. Rumsfeld did not attack until W made Afghanistan a pentagon operation and not a CIA operation. Fact. The CIA had Bin Laden pinpointed and dead to rights. Rumsfeld delay ruined everything. And now we have all of this.

The entire region is on it’s own timetable for complications and conflagrations. Our presence is interfering with the normal development of that region. We’ve violated the Prime Directive.

By Elliemae

August 10, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Plastic biometric cards to be used as drivers licenses? Help! Help! The mark of the beast is here!!!

By Dusty

August 10, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Luckovich makes two assumptions in his cartoon that Americans will never accept.

Hillary Clinton will never be elected to bring more disgrace to the White House in the Clinton fashion of lies and loose morals.

If such a Clinton catastrophe might be brought about by “hook or crooks”, Cheney would not stick around long enough to even say “Hi!” He would be gone before the deterioration starts again. Bill the Shill would take his place.

By the stopper

August 10, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Hey, Dusty? wot said: “Hillary Clinton will never be elected to bring more disgrace to the White House in the Clinton fashion of lies and loose morals.”

What “disgrace?” Clinton left office with higher numbers than Chimpy’s seen in five years. The vast majority of Americans continue to see him as a competent president.

And any perceived “loose morals” are sins of the husband, not of the wife.

Put more simply—just because your redneck friends don’t care for the woman, doesn’t make you representative of the nation at large.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Paul,

The timing of dick’s proposal when Marlarki is meeting with Iran shows he does not want peace in Iraq and is a sore loser.

Iraq is not our ally they are Iran’s ally. This is a consequence of his failed occupation and he can’t deal with his failure.

He should removed from office with pathetic proposal. He is an embarrassment to our country.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Hi Dusty

Just a bit of fun before I go -

I think I have to rethink my comment I’d sanction a strike on OBL even if he were in Red Square.

Jihadists should have Constitutional protections

Jihadists should receive trials that conform to US laws

Captured Jihadists should be treated humanely

Where does it say the US executes those suspected of a crime? We capture, try, pass sentence, then carry out the sentence. Is not ordering the execution of a suspect (as the Democratic candidates say they would, once they know where OBL is) before a trial a gross miscarriage of justice?

Isn’t the ‘proper’ course to exhaust every opportunity to apprehend him, not summarily execute him?

Just trying to logically integrate some of the past statements of the candidates and their supporters, here. You don’t think it would cost votes, do you?

By Paul

August 10, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

getalife 10:34

I do agree - an Iraqi government allied with Iran would be very, very troublesome for the US. Events have a way of going down a path not forseen, with very problematic consequences.

I’m gone for a while. TTYL -

By getalife

August 10, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Stu Bykofsky | To save America, we need another 9/11

Another desperate idiot like Paul.

Another 9/11 and there will be martial law and no constitution. It will not bring this country together.

Geezuz fereaking kerist.

By Buy Danish

August 10, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Woops!

They found a bug in NASA’s Global Warming “science” and the “consensus” that 1998 was the warmest year on record is incorrect and has been replaced by the pre-SUV date of 1934:

According to the new data published by NASA, 1998 is no longer the hottest year ever. 1934 is./Four of the top 10 years of US CONUS high temperature deviations are now from the 1930s: 1934, 1931, 1938 and 1939, while only 3 of the top 10 are from the last 10 years (1998, 2006, 1999). Several years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) fell well down the leaderboard, behind even 1900.

Also, scroll down to the next article which reveals that the placement of weather stations is creating unreliable data that is not in compliance with standards.

What say you, Goreacles?

Later, with a great big maybe attached to it…

By Paul

August 10, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

getalife 10:44

Geez, just ‘cause you’re upset with the Dem cave-in on the surveillance act, the leading candidates marching off to another war, the cartoon today showing Hillary’s gonna be like Cheney (Obama nailed it with “Bush-Cheney Lite), Edwards appearing on Fox 33 times before he figures out they’re the enemy - no need to take it out on me!

Cheers!

By N-GA

August 10, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I won’t be here after this post until much later, if at all. So this one will have to do for a bit.

When Obama said that he would strike at Osama in Pakistan (if Pakistan’s gov’t failed to do so), he was simply saying out loud what every candidate (save one, perhaps) would do if s/he were President. For them to attack him for taking that position is disingenuous, at best. All they can criticize him for is saying it out loud rather than refusing to respond to such a hupothetical situation.

Next Topic: Everyone will have their own opinion about the balance of power between the Executive and Legislative branches of government. However, the one thing people tend to forget is that if an individual who has real leadership qualities ever gets into the White House, then Congress will be forced to follow this President because the People will demand it!

Leadership can overcome huge political differences.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Just call em like I see em Paul.

Write something that is not pathetic.

Geez.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

N-GA

I’m never gonna get outta here - or know if you saw this, same as, what, Wednesday?

Para 1 - of course it’s disingenuous. It’s politics. That was an underlying point of my post(s). And I think there’s a BIG difference between a hypothetical they’re pretty likely to encounter and one along the lines of “if we knew a meteor was on a collision course with earth…”

Next Topic: True, too. The point I’m sure you saw is that the changes carry on after the folks who implemented them leave office. The balancing act between the Executive and Legislative branches will continue - rather like water seeking its own level in a container that’s constantly being juggled.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

RW writes:

“Later all, see you at Happy Hour perhaps”

BD writes:

“Later, with a great big maybe attached to it…”

Paul writes:

“I’m gone for a while. TTYL -“

It is like they are trying to get me drunk.

I call cease fire on the drinking game to drink when the wingnuts play this silly game.

Whats up dat?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 10, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

I really enjoyed my Newsweek this week.

The Science IS IN on global warming. But like so many other issues, there are those who just plain don’t like the score.

While I stand for each individuals right to free speech, I stand for my own right to freely speak the words, Climate change deniers are either intellectually defective or dishonest.

By luckovichisaheadcase

August 10, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

This twits hypocrisy is palpable!!! Hitlery has specialized in unchecked power and its abuse for YEARS! At least Cheney is a CONSTITUTIONAL official. Hitlery was acting as ‘co-president’ when she was only the ‘wife’ of the then B*stard-in-Chief. You folks just really are too much for color tv.

By Old Coots Political Humor

August 10, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

””“You folks just really are too much for color tv.”“

Thanks for your input Mr. Bodine. Double Naught Spy

By luckovichisaheadcase

August 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla - the science is NOT in yet. Please do not make the assumption that Newsweek somehow has a monopoly on scientific truth. True the world is getting warmer. That has been true for the last 150 years, since the end of the “Little Ice Age”. However, man has nothing to do with changing climate cycles. The Earth has warmed and cooled repeatedly throughout its 4 billion year history. 120 thousand years ago the Earth’s temperature averaged 9 degress F higher than now. We then slid into a protracted ice age.

Go read a few scholarly works on history of the planet. Educate yourself. Don’t depend on the knee-jerk (and I do mean JERK) left-wing sychophant media to feed you with a bunch of crap. You might die of intellectual cholera!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 10, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase

You are wrong.

By Taylor

August 10, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

luckovichisaheadcase — care to quote your sources there?

By GodHatesTrash

August 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Andi/e Duh, Cheney doesn’t need Monica with W and Karl Rove around.

By The Watcher

August 10, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Hey, lalalalaheadcase

The reason the world is getting warmer - all your hot air!

By SOURCE PLEASE

August 10, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

when sourcing the data, please also include the names of those FUNDING the studies.

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Mr. Headcase wouldn’t know a scientific journal if it bit him in the a*.

Not saying this is a scientific journal, just saw this article this morning Analysts See ‘Simply Incredible’ Shrinking of Floating Ice in the Arctic

We are ruining our planet at an alarming rate.

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

And Headcase - Never call Mrs. G a jerk. She has more integrity than you have in your little finger.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

headcase,

The right’s record of being right and telling the truth is very pathetic like you.

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 10, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Mother Earth August 10, 2007 12:01 PM Not saying this is a scientific journal, just saw this article this morning Analysts See ‘Simply Incredible’ Shrinking of Floating Ice in the Arctic}}}}

Ice melts in the summer, duh.

By Midori

August 10, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

this is the funniest you tube video EVAH!!

By JustPlainStupid

August 10, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Duh, Read it again. It says that the ice has melted more now than at any previous peak time. And the peak time is still ahead.

By JustPlainStupid

August 10, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Duh, Read it again. It says that the ice has melted more now than at any previous peak time. And the peak time is still ahead.

By Cindy

August 10, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

You “cons” can say what you want about Hillary, but she is a giant step ahead of bush and company: more intelligence, more competence, more leadership (that can be said for many of the candidates). I just laugh at your meager attempts to discredit her while your joker continues to blunder and sink this country further into a shameless position it never deserved. Doesn’t matter what you say, won’t bother me because the majority of the US sees the failure of this entire administration and I am thrilled that it will be gone; never to return. I don’t expect you to agree with me; you are all in denial.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

“Look, the Sahara Desert was a tropical forest just a few millenia ago”.

“Nobody said the earth doesn’t cycle, but you need to know it’s also on a tread mill and not going anywhere”.

“The earth simply heats up and cools down like it always did…it’s called the churn….the Churn!” (George W Bush at the Tokyo Summit)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 10, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Midori

I like this one

It’s a family thing!

By I brake for humor

August 10, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

The Cartoon

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 10, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Duh,

5 years ago the UN was worthless.

Now you are cheering them.

Now the administration is asking for their help.

You and they are hypocrites. I still think we can do this on our own except we have to kill all the liberals first, because its their fault that our guys are dying in Iraq. At least that’s what Dusty said last week. And she’s always right. I thought you were too until you start kissing the butts of the UN, one world government crowd.

Coward.

RWNJIFG

By Shawny

August 10, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

There is no stopping the Clinton machine (either of them). It absolutely cracks me up each time I hear her mention the “right wing maching”. Her machine is equally as potent and vicious.

However, after the Clinton landslide victory, I predict her sly maneuvering will come back to haunt her. No one holds her accountable for anything now, but it will all come out in the general election.

By Global Warring

August 10, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

The Danes, Russians and Canada investing in shrinkage.

“Canada steps up fight for the Arctic”

“Canada’s ownership claim to the waters has been largely ignored because of the harshness of the climate, which makes maritime transportation in the barren region impractical.”

“That is changing, however, as warming temperatures open the prospect of resource exploitation and maritime access.”

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Herman’s Hermits sings “Hillary “08”.

I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am I am. I was married to a presidential ho, he Played Married many times B4, and everyone was a monica, it couldn’t be a phyllis or a pam, I’m his ball and chain I’m Hillary, Hillary 08 I am.

Second verse same as the first. I’m Hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am I am. I got married to the diddler next door he’s been diddling many times B4 and everygirl was a monica, he couldn’t take a phyllis or a pam, I’m his ball and chain I’m Hillary, Hillary 08 I am, I am, Hillary 08 I am.

(sorry hillary, But you’re too shrill, and you turned me off, so this is what you get. Now, I can write FOR you or agin ya, it’s up to you. My campaign consulting services are available to you at no charge, but you must at least contact me by hacking into this blog and finding my email address, at which point I’ll know you’re qualified to be prez.)

By AntiRadical

August 10, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Haven’t stopped by here in ages. I see little has changed.

Today’s toon is fantastic, ML. Of course the Dems aren’t about to abbrogate the tiniest sliver of presidential power any more than the Reps would.

I seem to remember President Clinton having line item veto authority for a significant portion of his tenure. Did he refuse to use that power?

Not hardly, but I do think he used it with considerable finesse and it was probably the single greatest reason that President Clinton was as effective a President as he was. His success was mostly due to the fact that he possessed considerably more leverage against Congress through line-item veto than our current President has. Would any of the far left now be comfortable with President Bush having similar veto prerogative?

I’m all for the line item veto but Reps treated the idea like it was Cholera when they had their chance at power with one of their own in the oval office and majorities in both house. Maybe the not so distant thought of their own struggle with President Clinton was still fresh in their memories?

By IN THE NEWS

August 10, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

BREAKING NEWS: 3 Killed In Indiana Mine Accident

By getalife

August 10, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

“No one holds her accountable for anything now.”

Just like w, look at the toon idiot.

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Duh,

Yeah, duh, I know ice melts in the summer, it just seems to melting somewhat quicker than usual. Take it up with the scientists.

“Ice melts in summer” what a stupid comeback, but then again, I didn’t expect much more from someone whose name is “Duh.”

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

How about this “Duh” - but this abstract might be a little difficult for you to comprehend. It uses big words like “causal attribution” and “analyses” and the word “the.”

Nature 421, 37-42 (2 January 2003)

A globally coherent fingerprint of climate change impacts across natural systems

By Dusty

August 10, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Right Wing Nut Job @1:15

Are the squirrels chasing your nutty head today? Maybe you are just dememted on your own. Whatever…but stop MISQUOTING me just because you are a devious liberal trying to make a point with lies.

The terrorists are killing our troops because they hate all infidels, ‘specially Americans. They are encouraged when they think Americans want to cut-n-run. That is what I said and that is what I meant.

I have no further interest in what you have to say because you are dishonest.

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

Current Evidence of Climate Change

By Fly-on-the-wall

August 10, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

There was an interesting article put out a couple of days ago by Wesley Clark and someone else. The whole point of the article was that the Bush Administration made a grave error(go figure! They made a mistake?) in classifying captured terrorists as non-combatants versus criminals. The article goes on to show how the Bush team have legitimized the terrorists by holding them in military prisons and having military trials. The article says we should treat them like they always have been - criminals and try them in criminal courts. If we did that tnen it would legitimize our stance on them. Instead we’ve raised them up and now more people of that mind want to be a martyr for the cause. Funny but isn’t this what Bill Clinton did when he wanted to pursue them via law enforcement? Oh, but the Bush team can’t do anything the way Bill did it. Sad, truly sad.

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

EPA Climate Change Website

By Remember When

August 10, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

It was the Cold War

and the Russians had thousands of Nukes pointed at our Nation.

Why are some Americans PETRIFIED with fright over the TERRORISTS?

These frightened ones are more likely to die crossing the street or eating tainted food.

Caution is called for. Alertness is called for. But mindnumbing fear?

I have no patience with the chickenhearted. They are embarrasing to the rest of us citizens here in the good old U S of A.

The Home of the Brave.

By IN THE NEWS

August 10, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Fears of US attacks on Iran grow as media campaign heats up

OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 10, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Dusty, this is verbatim:

“By Dusty

August 2, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Not much here today. Maybe I should print a little song too. Let’s see…

Our troops are dying,

‘Cause liberals are lying”

Now who is being dishonest? Have you been MISQUOTED???? It appears that you did draw a direct line between liberals and our troops dying. I agree with you. I always do, but are you backtracking on this because I thought it was some of your finest work? In fact after being inspired by you I wrote the defense dept. and suggested that on future death certificates and on the notices to family memebers they should say that the cause of death was ‘Homocide by liberalism.’

Taking YOUR logic it would appear that liberals are responsibe for nearly 4,000 troop deaths. A greater toll than 9/11, meaning that the liberals are worse than the terrorists. We are trying to kill terrorists, right? So let’s kill all the liberals too. You know they deserve it. Look at what they’ve done for God’s sake. How many troops have to die before you wake up and see what must be done?

RWNJIFG

By raisedanidiot

August 10, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Dust ball @1:57 “The terrorists are killing our troops because they hate all infidels, ‘specially Americans. They are encouraged when they think Americans want to cut-n-run. That is what I said and that is what I meant.”

Dust ball - you don’t KNOW what you mean…you contradict yourself with every post…Why the hell should the terrorist be encouraged? We’re winning the war on terror aren’t we? Your daddy is gonna make us all proud, and libs will shrink with mortification cause big daddy george is here to say, “Bring it on”! You give me way too much power when you assume that my words (or anyone on the blog)could impact the current quagmire we now call the “war on terror”. Why should you hold us so accountable for our personal opinions and not hold your dick tater accountable for anything? You and your ilk are faaaaaaarrrr more responsible for the deaths of thousands of American soldiers than any cry for peace could be. You want to blame somebody? Look in the mirror…coward.

mother earth - if you feed Andy/duh he will grow like a little shop of horrors.

ITN- interesting 1:09!

By @@

August 10, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

FOILED FOILED FOILED

I wasn’t paying attention to politics back when Bill was in office. I’ve learned here that Bill was the first black president, but I guess he couldn’t be black AND gay.

Thrown under the bus…nooooooo way…

Well the democrats have already tossed the left on surveillance, ethics, earmarks and the war.

What’s Hillary got up her pants leg?

By Shawny

August 10, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

There is no stopping the Clinton machine (either of them). It absolutely cracks me up each time I hear her mention the “right wing maching”. Her machine is equally as potent and vicious.

However, after the Clinton landslide victory, I predict her sly maneuvering will come back to haunt her. No one holds her accountable for anything now, but it will all come out in the general election.

By Shawny

August 10, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Q: What SPECIFICALLY was Pres Clinton effective at?

dont say the economy was good…although it was, it wasn’t his doing…$9 oil, techno boom, etc.

dont say that there wasnt a terror threat…Cole, 1st trade center, Khobar towers….

What did he do? I have one answer..He was active in Welfare to Work, and that was good.

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 10, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

{{{{By nut job August 10, 2007 1:16 PM 5 years ago the UN was worthless. Now you are cheering them.}}}}

Kofi Annan, a crook just as much as any lib, is gone. France is being run by a wingnut.

New world, babe.

~~~~~~

{{{{By Mother Earth August 10, 2007 1:43 PM Yeah, duh, I know ice melts in the summer, it just seems to melting somewhat quicker than usual.}}}}

Yep, and “climate change” causes it to snow in summer.

I know all of your talking points and slogans, keep them to yourself.

What’s next, this is a man made heat wave?

Duh.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Shawny, “No one holds her accountable for anything now”

When has Bush been held accountable for anything he’s done? A right-winger such as yourself should never use the word “accountable” in a post in reference to politicians. It just doesn’t mix well. It would be like a lefty liberal a few years ago mentioning “celebacy.” Just doesn’t go well.

By For Shawny

August 10, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

15 million working families enjoyed tax relief under President Clinton’s expanded Earned Income Tax Credit. Thanks to Clinton, the EITC lifted 4.3 million people out of poverty in 1998 alone.

1.5 million children benefited when Clinton more than doubled federal funding for child care.

President Clinton signed a bad “welfare reform” bill in 1996, but Clinton vetoed a worse bill twice, winning concessions each time including - increased child care funding (by $4 billion), worker retraining, extensions for benefits, exceptions for “hard cases” and more.

Clinton increased funding for the Head Start program by 90 percent in FY 2000 so 880,000 children had a better chance to learn and grow.

Clinton forced the minimum wage up from $4.25 to $5.15 per hour and demanded an increase to $6.15.

Clinton’s Workforce Investment Act reformed the nation’s employment and training system.

Clinton’s AmeriCorps gave 150,000 young people the opportunity to serve in their communities while earning money for college or skills training.

President Clinton’s One America initiatives challenged us to respect others’ differences and embrace the common values that unite us. “[T]o close the opportunity gaps that exist for minorities and the underserved in this country.”

The poverty rate fell from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 12.7 percent in 1998. That’s the lowest poverty rate since 1979 and the largest five-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years (1965-1970).

The African-American poverty rate dropped from 33.1 percent in 1993 to 26.1 percent in 1998 — the lowest level ever recorded and the largest five-year drop in African-American poverty in more than a quarter century (1967-1972).

The poverty rate for Hispanics fell to the lowest level since 1979, and dropped to 25.6 percent in 1998.

African-American unemployment fell from 14.2 percent in 1992 to 7.3 percent in March 2000 — the lowest rate on record.

The unemployment rate for Hispanics fell from 11.6 percent in 1992 to 6.3 percent in March 2000 — and in the last year has been at the lowest rate on record.

For women the unemployment rate was 4.3 percent in March 2000, nearly the lowest since 1953 [when few women sought employment outside the home].

In 1999, the homeownership rate was 66.8 percent — the highest ever

By getalife

August 10, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Geez, the wingnuts are more unhinged than usual today.

Must of realized Clinton will be back in the WH and there will be karma.

Bwa.

By @@

August 10, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Speaking of surveillance, I’m always amused by how paranoid the left is.

Smile, you’ve been on candid camera for some time now.

Let me guess, some of you leftists have been caught cheating on your spouse or committing a crime.

I wonder if they ever caught Bill passing through with a big smile on his face? Let’s take a closer look at Hillary’s overbite…yup, looks like a smile to me.

By Goldie

August 10, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

{{Hillary Clinton will never be elected to bring more disgrace to the White House in the Clinton fashion of lies and loose morals.}}

Dust-For-Brains, there’s been no bigger disgrace in the White House than what your guy Bush has done for the past 6+ years — all the lies told and spun, and the lack of morals, only looking out for his corporate bigwig buddies… not only 72% of America knows that he’s a disgrace, but about 95% of the rest of the world knows it, too. Total disgrace!

The Dems Can’t Wait For ‘08! It may be Hillary, or Obama, or Edwards, or Kucinich… It won’t matter who leads the Dems — there will be a loud breath exhaled around the world once America gets the Repugs outta the White House in Jan. ‘

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Oh another great “Duh” comback. Why don’t I just “keep them to myself” did you read any of the other posts? I’m not the only one concerned. I thought those words might be too hard for you. Is that your response to the scientific community? Just keep this to yourself!

Duh, duh, duh, duh is dumb.

By The Graduate

August 10, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Funny toon, Hillary is goosing Cheney under the desk with her foot.

Wonder how many applications will be submitted for internships?

getalife will be the first (only) in line.

By For Shawny

August 10, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Clinton succeeded in brokering peace negotiations in Northern Ireland between warring Catholics and Protestants, and — after a failed first attempt at outsting a military dictatorship in Haiti — in ending the murderous rule of Haitian leadership.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Shawny, It is very impolite to ask a question on this blog and then tell everyone else how it can and can not be answered. Isn’t that right, RW? Where are your manners?

You should never make assumptions about how some one will answer. I know that may be a little hard for you, but just try.

By ??

August 10, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Who’s that @@?

And does he ever have something constructive to say?

I guess he doesn’t know about GHWB’s 15 year affair or Ike’s driver.

Read much history?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 10, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Duh, Yeah, I know its a new world. Hillary looks like the next President. Bush is holding steady at around 30%. The only state he gets a majority of support is Utah with their whopping 3 electoral votes. The Dems are running both houses of Congress. Our leading candidate is a Yankee, liberal Italian Catholic with three wives and kids that hate his guts. The guy that will probably win the nomination is a heathen Mormon who looks like he ought to be a televangelist, and he ‘used’ to be a liberal although I’m pretty sure he was just lying to get elected in Mass. which is fine with me. Why can’t we just find a decent white male protestant? Every nominee we have ever had was, What happened did we run out? Well maybe Thompson will save the day, but the trophy wife won’t help and he has a reputation as being lazy which isn’t what people want.

In addition, most of the country thinks that we are a party of perverts, criminals, liars, and incompetents.

Yeah, its a new world all right and this winger sees the writing on the wall. You know how they said that the conservative movement “went into the wilderness” after ‘64? I think we’re headed for a barren desert this time. We may die of exposure.

RWNJIFG

By Doom's response to @@

August 10, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

You got some nerve calling homocrats paranoid. You favor illegal survelliance, why? Because you don’t want Osama to attack from a cave? If your boy had done his job, we wouldn’t need surveillance.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

@@, Isn’t this a little hypocritical for you to post?

“Let me guess, some of you leftists have been caught cheating on your spouse or committing a crime.”

I mean, do we really need to list some of the shenanigans of some of those on the right?

By Mother Earth

August 10, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Please remember all, no matter the cause of climate change, just remember to be responsible and take care of me!

Have a great weekend. Try and stay cool.

By Doom's response to "Mother Earth"

August 10, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

You are none existent. There is only one true God, so get lost!

By Fly-on-the-wall

August 10, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

One thing you have to look at when determining what Clinton was good at is not only what he did but what he didn’t do. One thing that got Bush Sr. in trouble was that he tried to manipulate the economy which he was terrible at. Bush Jr. (Shrub) took the Clinton approach when he shouldn’t have. His tax cuts for the wealthy really only helped Wall Street and if that is how you judge the economy then Bush is great but if you ask many Americans about their economic futures I’ll bet you’ll get a different answer. Clinton knew when to NOT meddle in things and the economy was one of them. Maybe he needed to near the end of his term what with the Tech bubble crash but overall he did a great job with the economy by staying out of the way. He was smart enough to know better which is something neither Bush president can say. Now you may say the Shrub’s tax cuts were a great idea but to tell you the truth I’ve never really felt them way down here. They didn’t ‘trickle down’ very far. I think a smaller tax cut would have been better to jump start the economy but Shrub took it too far which is something he always does.

By @@

August 10, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

I’m in for a little fun people, but I can offer you leftists some free healthcare today.

Personality may influence irritable bowel syndrome

(((Depression and perfectionism (utopian dreams) were not significantly associated with the onset of IBS. However, a variety of other factors were.)))

(((These included significantly higher levels of perceived stress and anxiety. IBS patients were also significantly less likely to rest in the face of their illness, and exhibited “all-or-nothing” behavior by continuing their activities despite their symptoms until they were forced to stop.)))

(((These patients were prone to view illness in a particularly pessimistic fashion.)))

I keep telling you liberals, it’s that “pessimism” thingy that makes you lose control.

By Buy Danish

August 10, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadical

August 10, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Haven’t stopped by here in ages. I see little has changed….

I’m all for the line item veto but Reps treated the idea like it was Cholera when they had their chance at power with one of their own in the oval office and majorities in both house. Maybe the not so distant thought of their own struggle with President Clinton was still fresh in their memories?}}}

Anti-Rad,

Uh, one thing for sure that has not changed one bit is your ignorance.

The President of the United States was briefly granted this power by the Line Item Veto Act of 1996, passed by (THE REPUBLICAN) Congress in order to control “pork barrel spending” that favors a particular region rather than the nation as a whole. The line-item veto was used 11 times to strike 82 items from the federal budget by President Bill Clinton./However, U.S. District Court Judge Thomas F. Hogan decided on February 12, 1998, that unilateral amendment or repeal of only parts of statutes violated the U.S. Constitution. This ruling was subsequently affirmed on June 25, 1998, by a 6-3 decision of the Supreme Court of the United States in the case Clinton v. City of New York.

Getalife,

I’m just passing through and still don’t know if I’ll be back for Happy Hour.

Don’t let my presence here (or lack thereof) stop you from drinking or not drinking. Whatever you choose to do, it has nothing to do with me, but it is just like a liberal to eschew responsibility for your own actions and blame your behavior on others.

Sheesh.

By ??

August 10, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Somewhere in @@’s last post is a full of sh!t joke.

Maybe its that the Dems pass on it, but the Rethuglicans are full of it.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Cindy 12:40

I’d view it as relevant if she was the candidate at the end of Pres Bush’s first term. But she’ll run against someone else, who’s putting all the distance he can between himself and the Pres. As was said at 9:50, I’m really, really interested in the conditions under which she’d launch a nuke. That’s not a hypothetical - it’s a real possibility.

Flyonthewall 2:05

As was alluded to at 10:40, where does one draw the line? One constitutional right? Some? All? None? Criminal trials, but no constitutional rights? It seems the difficulty so far has been in what to classify them as and what the processes are. Remember the recent case - the military board regs allow them to classify as “enemy combatants” or not, while the prosecution requires a determination of a different classification - along the lines of “unlawful illegal not good enemy combatant.” Not a good situation.

Bosch 2:50

[[Shawny, “No one holds her accountable for anything now” When has Bush been held accountable for anything he’s done? ]]

I’m so disappointed. Try it this way:

“Little Bosch, you were supposed to clean your room. I’m gonna ground you!”

“But Daddy Bosch, Little Boschette got a good report card ‘cause she cheated!”

“Oh, okay Little Bosch. No grounding for you.”

Actually, I think Hillary’s getting most of her trouble from the ultraleft machine. Code Pink and company are doing their best to hold her accountable over Iraq and they’re not too pleased with her. Of course, they just announced a break with moveon.org ‘cause they said they were too conservative. It’s an entertaining primary!

By @@

August 10, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

The liberals asked for it and Bush delivered. The conservatives demanded it and Bush delivered.

Congress? Well…..they’re pondering.

Damn that Bush, going against his own immigration proposal because that’s what the people demanded…

and doing it WITHOUT congressional support.

WhoTH does he think he is? The President of the people?

By Paul

August 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Hi Buy Danish

Try some mint in your garden (spreads almost like Kudzu). Forms the basis of a very good Mojito. Just the thing for these hot summer days. Or to drink before reading this blog. Or during. Or after. :)

By IN THE NEWS

August 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Bush set to beat Reagan’s vacation record.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Yep, completely unhinged.

Bwa.

By @@

August 10, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Whoopsy daisy, I forgot to include the topic:

(((U.S. cracks down on employment of illegal immigrants)))

(((WASHINGTON - The Bush administration said on Friday it would increase scrutiny and impose heftier fines on U.S. businesses that employ illegal immigrants as it sought to step up enforcement despite Congress’s failure to reform immigration laws.)))

By Doom's response to @@(Buy Danish)

August 10, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Still polluting this blog with your filth, huh? You’re not fooling Doom, you are @@ and probably Dusty. Stop announcing that you’ve been gone, when you’ve been right here all along. Nobody cares what you do!

By IN THE NEWS

August 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

The Economist: Republicans in Big, Big Trouble

By Doom interrupts Paul's fantasy

August 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Why would you flirt with a schizoid like “Buy Danish”? You must be really lonely to associate with such a beast!

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry Paul, you lost me with the “Code Pink” comment.

I did like your clean up your room skit. Almost good enough for Saturday Night Live. Just remember, my dad is “Father Bosch,” not “Daddy Bosch.” If you are going to make fun of me, AT LEAST get the names right.

Hey, I just thought of something to ask you. I watched the “Bourne” movies this past week, and I’m going to see the new one this weekend - I’m excited. Did you notice that I was in the second movie?

By IN THE NEWS

August 10, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

FROM AJC

HomeBanc Corp., the Atlanta-based mortgage lender that ceased new loan applications this week, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, the company’s investor relations director said Friday

FROM MARKET WATCH

Stock prices on Friday remained under water after an attempted rebound faltered as three daily injections of liquidity by the Federal Reserve followed like moves by other central banks failed to calm fears of a global credit crisis.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Doom

I like listening to ideas from people across the spectrum. BD has a garden. I just thought, well, you know, maybe it would give her and getalife something in common. You know, the uniter, not a divider thing. World politics condensed to this blog. A few mojitos, it may even seem possible!

By Doom did not see Bosch on The Bourne Supremacy

August 10, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

What the hell is wrong with you people? Bosch: stop fantasizing, Paul: Leave that wrench alone?

In the words of the biggest idiot on this blog: geez.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Doom, You just didn’t look good enough.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

I’m hillary 08 I am. Hillary 08 I am, I am. I got married to the Willy next door, he’s been mated several times with ho’s and everyone is a Monica, he couldn’t stand a phyllis or a pam. I his ball and chain I’m hillary, hillary 08 I am.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Hey, that’s right, you were! Can I have your autograph? Just type your name, I’ll print it!

I’ve meant to get the first two - good series. Don’t go thinking you’ll take a break halfway through - there aren’t any slow spots.

Hmmm, got it about the Father Bosch, I thought you had a Little Bosch (one of your soccer comments), so you became Daddy Bosch.

The skit was in reference to “don’t hold Hillary accountable ‘cause Bush isn’t held so.” The Code Pink comment was a new topic. It came from one of those one-liner news comments I saw the other day (they’ve been really, really critical of her). One of the CP founders said Moveon strayed from its principles and was conservative so CP would no longer associate with moveon. So that would make CP… what’s at the left end of the universe from ultralib?

By getalife

August 10, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

BD is the fertilzer in the garden.

GEEZ!

By Doom "helps" Paul

August 10, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Doom hates to see a man lower his standards so drastically. BD(@@) is married to some drunken womanizer. You’re better than that. You should find yourself a real woman on this blog, someone like,..like…like….

Oops, sorry. There aren’t any real women on this blog. Just a bunch of hags and idiots.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

See BlogFather 3:50. I rest my case about the transcendent effect of mojitos.

By old geezer

August 10, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Its so hot me balls hang in the water while sitting on the john reading the ajc.

By Doom saw Bosch on Dateline NBC's "To Catch a Predator"

August 10, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Doom wants your autograph too. Sign it: To Dr.Doom, Sincerely “Freakazoid Bosch”.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Doom insults the ladies on this blog because he is doomed to be a wanker.

Geez.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Paul, I wish I could type my name in gigantic red letters, that would be more effective for the autograph, huh?

You can see part of me here

Yes, there are three little Boschs (well, not little, but you know what I mean). I get it now. My brain isn’t quite right today. I’ve had a bad week. The real Father Bosch is sick and I’ve been really worried about him - It’s not good watching your parents get old.

Okay, if there is something more left than MoveOn, well, I don’t want any part of it. Like I said, I have only kept my email subscription to MoveOn, just to annoy my military buddy, you know the one that I was supposedly lying about. Hey, does Code Pink have an email subscription? Yeah, that could be fun.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

So Doom, Are you the pervert who is obsessed with “To Catch a Predator?” That’s really sad.

By @@

August 10, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

OMG, this is hilarious. Doom doesn’t like any conservative woman on this site, but he (?) has a thang for one liberal woman in particular. Can anyone recall who that “one” is?

Too funny!!!!

For awhile I thought Getalife may have been Doom, but now the alternative makes it even more hilarious.

By Doom puts getalife in his place

August 10, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Punka$$,

At least Doom has a woman you homo! Come on out of the closet so you can breathe. Next time, speak to me when you’re spoken to sugarboy!

By Paul

August 10, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Bosch

[[You can see part of me here]]

Sorry, the scope was turned so I couldn’t see the crosshairs -

Bosch - regarding the parents - every day’s a gift -

By Can't Resist

August 10, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Based upon a true event: First lady Laura Bush and daughter Jenna Bush are writing a children’s book about a boy who doesn’t like to read. It is based on their experiences as teachers. The working title is: Uncurious George and The Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US Daily Briefing Book.

By @@ wishes she could have Doom

August 10, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

@@,

Doom is sorry if your heart is broken. Perhaps if you worked out a little more and cut down the alcohol intake, I would give you a shot.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Paul, You speak in code - you couldn’t see the picture?

You are right about your parents. It’s been a wacky week.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

@@,

You know I love the ladies but doom keeps hitting on me.

Geez.

By Bosch's response to Doom does not compute

August 10, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Not sure what you’re talking about homocrat, but Doom’s point was to stop lying about your Movie debut. Which character were you? A tree?

By Paul

August 10, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Jason Bourne’s holding a rifle and is peering through the scope. I was looking for you…

just as Jason Bourne is….

Broke the code?

By Buy Danish

August 10, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Gosh, I had no idea that suggesting that one grow mint in one’s garden was a form of flirting.

Poor Doomster, must be starved for affection if he places such significance in such an insignificant comment.

Paul,

When I do grow mint, which is not very often since I’m usually out of town during the mint growing season, I grow it in pots so it doesn’t spread and invade my garden - which is not much to begin with. After a bad experience with Bamboo, I have learned my lesson about what to pot and what to allow to roam free!

In any case, I think you may be confusing me with @@ (or Dusty?). I don’t recall ever mentioning my gardening here.

I have Gardenias, Daffodils, Azaleas, Hibiscus, lots of shrub roses, climbing roses, Lantana, climbing Jasmine, and some Clematis. That’s about it, other than a few pots of annuals that I put at my doorstep and on my deck and patio.

I didn’t know what a “Mojito” was but thanks to Google, now I do. I have had a “Caipirinha” at a Brazilian night club which sounds pretty similar to a “Mojito”, but I don’t think they have club soda in them.

Have a nice weekend!

By @@

August 10, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Doom:

I’m still laughing at the possible alternative.

(((I would give you a shot.)))

Would that shot be to euthanize me?

You do know that I’m a straight female. In other words I’m not gay, but I’m beginning to wonder if you tilt either way.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Paul, Look at the big red letters about Jason Bourne’s head - that’s what I was talking about.

I’m sorry, if you are being your usual witty self today, I’m just not getting it. My brain is quite fried. I’m not my usual cynical self today. I need to go home and take a nap.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Bosch is Matt Damon?

Huh?

By Paul

August 10, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

My pardon, I likely did make the wrong connection (from a cooking or canning comment?), but it sounds as if you have some wonderful plantings. BTW - there are hybrid varieties of bamboo known as “clumping” - generally don’t spread more than four feet. Could be interesting in a pot against a wall. I had a house where I planted 36 roses - it was gorgeous. The rose beds - not the house!

Good weekend to you, too.

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I was just making a joke - albeit, maybe a bad one. During that scene, Bourne is hiding under big red letters that spell “BOSCH.”

Come on, it’s Friday afternoon. Give me a break. I’ve had a bad week and it was my feeble attempt at humor today.

By @@

August 10, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Danish has a pool. I have a pool. I have a vegetable garden, but Danish doesn’t. I don’t know if Dusty has either, but she does have a heart of gold.

Danish:

You can plant mint and bamboo in a pot and sink the pot into the ground. It contains the spread/invasion.

By Doom is puzzled by @@'s response

August 10, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

@@,

Doom knows you’re a straight female, that’s kind of the idea hotpants! Perhaps you thought Doom was a female? Am I missing something here?

Anyway,you don’t have to downplay your affection for Doom. It’s only a matter of time before you become: @@DOOM!

By doom wouldn't know a good woman if she sat on his face

August 10, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot thinks doom is just jealous cause she gets more puzzy than he do.

By doom is one sick puppy

August 10, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

doom loves midori

By @@

August 10, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Ooooo, something good from Stratfor:

I hope it’s within the word limit.

(((Algerian officials said Aug. 8 that security forces killed nine Islamist militants, including an operational commander, during several days of fighting in northern Algeria. This latest blow to al Qaeda’s North African franchise — al Qaeda Organization for the Countries of the Arab Maghreb — comes less than a month after the group promised a violent campaign against the region’s governments. The al Qaeda node has failed to deliver on that promise and has actually been on the receiving end of most of the violence in the region. Algeria’s security forces know how to combat an Islamist insurgency and will continue striking at the militants, but as in many insurgencies, neither side is likely ever to defeat the other completely.)))

There’s ^^^ the realities, but you can sure make them wish they’d never brought the fight to the U.S.

(((The militants’ statement sounds serious, but was probably more for appearances than an actual indication of the group’s capabilities. As a militant group gets weaker, it often increases the amount of rhetoric that it puts out. If the group is capable of carrying out attacks, it will do so rather than threaten to do so.)))

(((Not only has the group suffered hard losses, there also have been reports of disagreements within the insurgency’s leadership.)))

(((Algiers has good reason to report — and even inflate — its successes against the militants. Algeria is trying to become a major player in the regional energy market, and a successful jihadist movement in the country would discourage foreign investment.)))

There’s ^^^ that strategic interest thing Paul keeps referencing.

(((Al Qaeda’s regional nodes overall have not been faring well. Nodes in Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and Iraq have been weakened as security forces arrest commanders, disrupt plots and kill operatives. The North African node, which supposedly encompasses jihadist elements in Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria and Libya, has spread itself too thin to be effective in any one location.)))

It’s a generational war…kill the incentive.

By Goldie

August 10, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

BlogFather @ 3:50— like the little ditty!

By Doom and Midori once had a thing going on

August 10, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Yes it is true.But Midori was to liberal for the power of Doom. I had to let her go when I left this blog for a while. Doom now has his sights set on @@. I figure: If you can’t beat’em, join’em.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Ha! Also about the red-letter autograph.

I was just being a bit intuitive. You said I could see “part” of you in the pic. One can see “part” of Jason Bourne - but I didn’t think you’d be so obvious (but ya’ never know, Matt). So the only other place to “see” part of someone was… thru the scope, ‘cause that’s what Jason’s looking through, and he’s not looking at a paper target on a firing range! Hence, in looking for you, I was looking in the same manner as Jason.

Waaaay to much work, there.

Go home, relax, play with the kids and call your dad. Cheers to you -

By @@

August 10, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

OMG, I can’t stop laughing at Doom.

I don’t know hon…are you missing something?

I can’t help you in that department.

By Goldie

August 10, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Bosch @ 4:34— you need to remember that most Repugs don’t get “nuance”, no matter how many clues you give ‘em!

By Bosch

August 10, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Paul - way too much thinking there! Yeah, I think it’s Beck’s time for Bosch.

Have a great weekend all!

By Paul

August 10, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

@@

Mystery solved. All that and Stratfor, too. Thanks! I gotta keep a cheat sheet handy.

Brilliant tip about sinking the container. Great idea.

I’d talked to Dusty about the ecosmarte I just put in my pool. Replaces chlorine and salt. Love it. Runs the water through an oxidizer/copper ionator. Just have to keep the ph balanced and that’s it. It is so cool.

An excellent Stratfor analysis. Y’know, when the jihadists went about looking for a place to establish their caliphate, it seems they seriously underestimated the enthusiams with which the Muslim governments would welcome their plans. Another thing about Algeria - long, brutal, horrible civil war with the French. Had serious repercussions for the French (they made Abu Ghraib look like Miss Molly’s Tea Party). But the Algerians - they went from running the insurgency to now, being the government fighting the insurgency. Do ya think they may have a pretty good idea how to defeat their enemy?

By Dusty

August 10, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Errr Paul, just stopping by..

Don’t know whether I want to get in this little confab but

I have bamboo growing in a cute little cup with pebbles. It is now three feet tall. It was a Mother’s Day present over a year ago. Water is all it gets. That’s the best of my “garden”. My peach tree is dead. No hope. The other peach tree is not perky.

As to seeing the name Bosch, not too surprising. You probably know that they are a big German enterprise that makes everything from auto magnetos to dishwashers. Maybe the movie was made in Germany or wanting to seem so. I haven’t seen it yet.

By @@

August 10, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Paul:

I’m certain they’ll know how to deal with the extremists. Just show them the potential to make money and the obstacle will be vanquished. A little more from Stratfor’s article:

(((Indeed, since the announcement, al Qaeda Organization for the Countries of the Arab Maghreb has not attacked any of the targets mentioned. In fact, less than week after issuing the threat the group lost one of its primary military advisers, Rachid Sid Ali, who was killed while fighting with government forces in Tizi Ouzou province. Ali was a major operational planner who is believed to have organized the twin suicide bombings in Algiers in April and a suicide attack against a convoy of soldiers in Bouira province in July. On Aug. 1, Algerian officials killed at least 30 militants, including fighters from Morocco, Libya and Tunisia, in Tebessa province. A week later, Algiers reported that its soldiers seized weapons and ammunition and killed nine militants, including a commander, in days of fighting in Bouira province.)))

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 10, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Mother Earth August 10, 2007 2:56 PM Is that your response to the scientific community?}}}}

Scientific community?

You mean al-Gore?

Or are you talking about the prestigious Atlanta Journal Constitution and their crack, award winning team of climatologists?

Really, you libs have been right about your hysterics so many times before, how could I ever doubt you?

Y2K, global food shortages, losing in Iraq, cat 5 hurricanes everyday, Florida underwater, tax cuts for the rich.

And why are we just not handing over the U.S. Treasury to you right now, based on all of your wild predictions that never seem to come true, you global warming ninja fighters, you.

I was sort of hoping that it actually got warm before we went and destroyed our economy and made ourselves into a third world country.

But you just keep plugging away, I’m sure you’ll ruin us over nothing someday.

Never lose hope, trooper.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Dusty

You’re always welcome to the confab. I’ve a couple of decorative bamboo - single plants trained in strange shapes, exceedingly slow growing. I’ve never figured out why they end up in bathrooms.

I believe it was Bosch that brought some degree of salvation to the British auto manufacturers some years back. Brit electrics and carbs were horrid. Always struck me as ironic - just a few decades past WWII.

Lots of shots in the movie from overseas. Europe, Morocco. Some really great cars in the background. No SUVs or pickum up trucks, though.

I’m about out - time to start another batch of work.

Cheers -

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Miller time officially declared, 5:04 pm friday, aug. 10, 2007.

Moderation.

Dont post past 7pm even if you’re drunk.

I know that @@ will say, “Wait! Dont declare miller time yet, I have more stuff to post! I’m not done! I have to yak some more”.

Well let me tell you something, deary, you may know about posting hate speech on a blog, but you dont know nuthin ‘bout no miller time wet t-shirt contests on a hot friday evening.

Check out You Tube tonight under Miller Time T-Shirt. I’ll make sure it gets on there by 9:00pm.

You wont believe your eyes, my fine friends. Housewives, college girls, debutantes, and some pros. I’ll be working the mic too. You’ll finally see my act.

Check it out. You Tube.

By Paul

August 10, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

@@ 5:11

Do ya think if Edwards gets elected he’ll tell the Algerians not to worry, it’s just a bumper sticker war?

Seems our news services generally not covering such news makes sense if one accepts they have certain political goals (which they don’t) or biases (which they suppress) and would be happy to see anybody but a Republican take office (but they really don’t care one way or the other).

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 10, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Duh says: “And why are we just not handing over the U.S. Treasury to you right now, based on all of your wild predictions that never seem to come true.”

You’d better be careful or someone is going to bring up “last throes”, “greeted as liberators”, “WMD’s”, “we’ll stand down as they stand up” etc., etc., etc… They may even say that if Al Gore is wrong, nobody is gonna get killed over it.

RWNJIFG

By @@

August 10, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

What’s that you say BlogDaddy? You’ll be “working” the mike?

I may be posting here at 9:00 so I’ll probably miss ‘ya.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

How about the fed stepping in today three times to fix the dow?

Lets see the fed step in to fix the forclosures.

I know, “the fed” is not “the feds”.

Still, white coller america better STFU about the foreclosure bill.

Or I will blog the correct combination of words that will send the dow to hell!

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Sorry atat, the t-shirts say, “no fatah chicks”.

Too bad you hate america, fatahfatah, then maybe people wouldn’t be so loathe to read your hate speech.

By The Centrist

August 10, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Just wait until Hillary has control of FISA, Patriot Act, fires all the Bush AG’s, shakes up the FCC, and declassify all those “Top Secret” documents. Bush will probably trash the White House like he accused Big Bill as he slinks away in ‘09 and gets ready to inherit all that Carlye Group money Big G has pillaged.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 10, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

{{{{By nut job August 10, 2007 5:24 PM They may even say that if Al Gore is wrong, nobody is gonna get killed over it.}}}}

Rachel Carson has killed millions upon millions of poor children and you libs worship her as your Junk Science Queen.

If energy use gets restricted as al-Gore would like, another couple hundred million poor will suffer and die because they won’t be able to afford access to it.

It doesn’t bother you liberals at all to murder in the millions, babies with holes in their heads, African children that Bono and his ignorant concerts fund the dictators that kill them, in fact, I’d bet that you are proud of these many horrific accomplishments.

3 million Cambodians, oh well, tough ti-tty, right?

Bush, on the other hand, is killing off all the fascists that you libs cowered in front of and negotiated with and let kill thousands of Americans unanswered.

And he’s doing it cheap, every lost soldier is precious, but at least he didn’t kill 58,000 for absolutely nothing, like you did.

Anymore stupid points you’d like to make?

By Ray

August 10, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

Dittos Duh - Cheney/Satan ‘08

By The BlogFatah

August 10, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

will someone please fatah in my face?

By @@

August 10, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 5:19:

(((Do ya think if Edwards gets elected he’ll tell the Algerians not to worry, it’s just a bumper sticker war?)))

Every time I hear that phrase “bumper sticker war” I’m reminded of John Edwards’ war on poverty. The same war that’s been waged since the beginning of time.

BlogDaddy:

and here I thought you were such an amicable fella. I sure would like to see some of this “hate” speech that keeps getting attributed to me.

I know I’ve been firm at times, but only on behalf of the absent and defenseless. Hell, I always thought that was a liberal trait. When it comes from a conservative it’s “hate” speech?

Oh well….

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Aw, I didn’t mean nuthin.

By Dusty

August 10, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

Maybe I should close with a little poem:

Our soldiers are dying,

‘Cause liberals are lying.

Terrorists are encouraged

By liberals scared and discouraged.

Hear them now saying “Cut-n-run”,

Makes terrorists say “More fun!”

Liberals are not doing the killing,

They just help the killers find it more thrilling.

Title: How Liberals Support the Troops Dedicated to Right Wing NUT Job

By Midori

August 10, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Dusty: don’t quit your “day” job.

Your poetry sucks. Much like your taste in leaders.

By The BlogFather

August 10, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

If only it were that simple.

By getalife

August 10, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

I doubt the base of wingnuts will like this:

Gays for Rudy

By Dukat

August 10, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

I am Midori’s leader.

By @@

August 10, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

No Getalife, the Independent Gay Forum doesn’t like it. They’re saying it is a satire against Rudy put out by liberals and that it’s insulting to gays.

I tend to agree with them, but it’s all in humor, right?

When will the radical left ever learn from their past mistakes?

We shall see.

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