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By Goldie
August 9, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this
ROFL— this one’s perfect, Lucko! Barry somehow has managed to grow his body parts (enlarged head, enlarged feet, enlarged shoulders) just by rubbing some “cream” on himself — who’da thunk that?!!!
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
Those other two asterisks go on the end of Hillary Clinton’s Iraq war position, hahaha.
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{{{{For the first time during 110th Congress, the Blue Dog Coalition — a 47-member grouping of self-described moderate and conservative Democrats — defied House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership on a critical national security issue: Saturday night’s vote on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), where 41 dissident Democrats, nearly all of them Blue Dogs, provided the margin of victory for President Bush on the issue of terrorist surveillance.}}}}
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Scumbag liberals:
{{{{IRAQ DEVELOPMENTS- An American raid and airstrike killed 32 ——->people<—— in the Shiite stronghold of Sadr City on Wednesday in what American military officials described as the latest assault on a network linking Iraqi militants with deadly roadside bombs from Iran.}}}}
“People” just like you and me, going about their daily grind of working on bombs that kill innocent civilians.
And the big bad evil American military intruded on their “peaceful” little existence.
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From the “Vent:”
{{{{Most of the conservative Vents are merely plagiarized material from conservative talk radio. Original thinking has never been the strong suit of those on the right.}}}} Coming from the same liberals that brought us “political correctness.” At least we don’t have to hold seminars on how to become Christians and other schemes designed to trick our voters. And shouldn’t you at least check and make sure you aren’t doing the exact same thing you’re whining about?:
{{{{First we destabilize the entire Middle East. Then we sell them all cutting-edge weapons. Isn’t that a lot like getting teenagers good and drunk and giving them the car keys?}}}}
Duh.
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{{{{If the actual economic data, the views of professional economists and the self-proclaimed personal financial situation of a majority of Americans have improved this much, why are people so worried about the economy? Why do people assume they are the exception rather than the rule? One answer is that people gather knowledge about the rest of the economy, the part they cannot see, from watching news. As a result, it could be that the format behind most business journalism skews perceptions and creates pessimism.}}}}
By N-GA
August 9, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
ML - There has been no proof presented that Bonds knowingly took steroids. What the Balco people and Bonds’ trainer told him was in those injections and salves is only known by them, and they aren’t accusing him. The Balco chemist who created the chemical says that he believes Bonds used his designer steroid, but backs off from first hand knowledge of his statement. Until then, perhaps you should leave the accusations to others.
By The BlogFather
August 9, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this
Nice, original twist on the homerun ball The Juice hits is an actual asterisk.
But nobody talks about the (aster)RISKS of steroid abuse. Is this what kilt the Babe? How long has The Juice been juicing? Even if you juice, does that make you quicker, more alert, and improve your eye-hand coordination to make you a better batter?
If The Juice (Bonds) was betting he’d be a better batter is he bitter that his betters banned his best batch of bombs as a botched bout of bootlegged booty? That’s bogus!
By Goldie
August 9, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
I’m wondering why ole Barry forgot to thank his buddies who’re doing actual jail time for steroids — after all, he’d still be 2 shoe sizes smaller today if not for them!
By @@
August 9, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
So why doesn’t Barry share all of his homeruns with all the other players in the league ml?
Because baseball has been Barry Barry good to him?
By The BlogFather
August 9, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
The asterisk belongs on Hillary’s cleavage!!
By Say It Ain't So
August 9, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Goldie, (8:37) I see you treat sports just like you do your politics, no proof, no facts, only rumors are enough to convict someone in your mind.
By Truthman
August 9, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
No D’oh, those two asterisks are your Oxycotin pills running away from your fat piehole!!
Nutcase sociopath Neo-conmen and women.
Cheney: Sociopath Bush: Cheney’s puppet Rove: Sociopath Gonzalez: Sociopath Wolfowitz: Sociopath Negroponte: Murdering sociopath Rice: Non-entity Patreus: Puppet Andi: sociopathic apologist for murdering sociopaths.
Have a nice day, scumbag! My if be full of immigrants, gays and feminists!!
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 9, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
Oh, just let him juice up all he wants.
When he gets the size of Violet Beauregard, let the oompa loompas squeeze him!
Pro Sports - Bah Humbug!
By Mark Kelly, Jasper, TN
August 9, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
Truer ink was never drawn!
By @@
August 9, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Ooooohhhh Noooooo! Say it ain’t sooooo…
(((“Well, the fact is I don’t take PAC money and I don’t take lobbyists’ money,” Obama said, touting his work on an ethics reform bill that just passed Congress. “That’s the kind of leadership that I’ve shown in the Senate. That’s the kind of leadership that I showed when I was a state legislator. And that’s the kind of leadership that I’ll show as president of the United States.”)))
(((In Obama’s eight years in the Illinois Senate, from 1996 to 2004, almost two-thirds of the money he raised for his campaigns — $296,000 of $461,000 — came from PACs, corporate contributions, or unions, according to Illinois Board of Elections records. He tapped financial services firms, real estate developers, healthcare providers, oil companies, and many other corporate interests, the records show.)))
In addition, Obama’s own federal PAC, Hopefund, took in $115,000 from 56 PACs in the 2005-2006 election cycle out of $4.4 million the PAC raised, according to CQ MoneyLine, which collects Federal Election Commission data. Obama then used those PAC contributions — including thousands from defense contractors, law firms, and the securities and insurance industries — to build support for his presidential run by making donations to Democratic Party organizations and candidates around the country.
(((In the Democrats’ previous debate, on July 23, Obama was unequivocal when challenged by former Alaska senator Mike Gravel about who his donors were.)))
I remember Gravel hurling that accusation at Obama. I found Obama rather indignant. Gravel always has this grin on his face after he delivers. Gravel’s a hoot.
By Old Physics Teacher
August 9, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
N-GA “There has been no proof presented that Bonds knowingly took steroids.”
WHAT??? If taking steroids was a FEDERAL criminal crime, he would already be doing time. Or do you consider “reasonable doubt” to be defined as the defendant saying, “I didn’t do it - honest - I wouldn’t lie to you”? Geeze, were you on the Juice’s California jury?
By The BlogFather
August 9, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
The anti-terror bill passed as part of a deal that allows passage of the healthcare bill coming up.
Cant any of you uberspindunces read between the cleavage?
By Say It Ain't So
August 9, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
FalseMan (9:09) Very intelligent response. It’s what we’ve come to expect from you libs. No facts to dispute what was said, let’s just call them a bunch of names. That’ll show them!!
I guess your last line (Have a nice day, scumbag! My if be full of immigrants, gays and feminists!!) is some kind of an insult. As well as a sign of your knowledge and command of the English language.
Care to explain why you use the terms ‘immigrants, gays and feminists’ in that lame insult? I thought your party was the party of inclusion. Do you have a problem with immigrants, gays and feminists?
By Truthman
August 9, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Say it ain’t so.
As the caveman on the Geico commercial says:
WHAT?
Go get in an infantile argument with someone else!! Andi/Luckodunce/D’oh is MY comic foil…go find your own!
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
{{{By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
Those other two asterisks go on the end of Hillary Clinton’s Iraq war position, hahaha.}}}
Truthiman,
THAT^^^ is funny. DUH’s very first post of the day and you are already competing in a losing battle, and the only “comic foil” evident on your part is the tragi-comic tin foil hat you are wearing.
The “truth” is that calling everyone that you disagree with a “sociopath” and “murderer” is not funny, but desperate, and dare I say…insane.
By Truthman
August 9, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
BD,
Whatever!
By Say It Ain't So
August 9, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
Good response Falseman!
I point out your lack of intelligence and your prejudices and you won’t defend yourself. Coward!!
By Say It Ain't So
August 9, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Falseman,
Are we finding it too hard to defend the indefensible?
That’s okay, you just keep playing with yourself, you seem to be real good at that.
Have a good life homophobe.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
The deficit is high, the debt is growing, the war’s financial costs are exorbitant, and the nation is just coming to grips with the need for a sizable investment in the nation’s bridges and infrastructure.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
At no time in our country’s history has the abuse of power by the executive branch been more flagrant and more dangerous to democracy. In just the past month, the Bush administration has ordered employees to ignore congressional subpoenas, asserted broad new parameters for executive privilege and issued an executive order that could permit seizing assets of Americans deemed at its discretion to be hurting the war effort in Iraq. Meanwhile, the administration continues to spy on its own citizens, including widespread data mining of telephone records and emails. Since taking office, Bush has pushed his authority past the bounds of the Constitution, and now a new group is ready to push back.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Shock & Awe: Toxic Legacy… for our Troops
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Brought to you by the memory of 5 Brothers who didn’t drive a Winnebago.
By N-GA
August 9, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Really Old Physics Teacher,
Bonds testified to a Grand Jury that he “never knowingly took steroids”. The Feds have been trying for three years to get evidence that he lied to the Grand jury, but they have failed. At this point, I would have hated to have been a student in your Physics class since you teach opinion rather than facts.
When he gets convicted, I’ll castigate him. In the meantime…..
By Dusty
August 9, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
I love baseball and watching the Braves is a treat. But Bonds has introduced an element that is like throwing a stink bomb into the party. He says he didn’t do it but the ugly aroma keeps rising.
It was fun to watch Henry Aaron achieve his goal by super athletics and drive. Besides that, he is a man of character and a good example for generations of young athletes.
I wish to hear no more about Bonds. Let him glory in his own achievements by any means. That is not the stuff of heroes.
By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I
August 9, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Dusty - that ugly aroma - maybe you should just cross your legs??
By Bosch
August 9, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Good morning all!
Dusty, I heard a story about Hank Aaron’s run for the record on NPR the other day. It was really a great story, I posted something about it the other day. I never realized he had a lot of death threats, and he even told his friends on the Braves not to sit near him in the dug out because he was afraid they might get shot. That’s so sad, but I’m with you. I’m tired about hearing about Barry Bonds. What you said about Hank Aaron is absolutely true.
People like Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire are the reason I stopped watching baseball years ago.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
“Cognitive Defects”?
By Gary
August 9, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
How predictably great is the news from Iraq? Fabulous as expected. Just as Bushie and his fellow gutsy intellectuals always knew it would be. And the new “surge” is spectacular. An entire country of multi-millions which has always been eager to embrace our definition of so-called “democracy.” Eager to throw out its thousands of years of culture and experiences and thoughts and habits and beliefs and religions. Forever obsessed w being “Americanized.” And now their dream is finally coming true. All it took was a tiny handful of heroes with guns and bombs and planes to intermingle with the average Iraqi citizen who rejoiced at their arrival. Now Iraqis can finally have that relaxed, quiet, comforting peace of mind they’ve always desired, even as their country grows into the modern, highly developed land that is the envy of the civilized world. They have forever been just like good, decent, God-fearing Americans. They are every bit as are we. Now they can emerge from their closets, act like us, be like us, and spread their new-found paradizical lives throughout the entire Middle East. We already see it busily working its magic into nearby states. Never has America stood taller. Never have we had more reason to fill our hearts with pride. I wish to thank our Savior for the wisdom He has thrust upon our great President Bush and all those who have had the intelligence, insight, patriotism, guts, raw knowledge, courage, and good, decent personal and family values needed to support that extraordinary human being. He and they are what America is all about. These are people deeply steeped in everything that is good and honest and righteous within the world. God bless America!
By Can't Resist
August 9, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
“No thanks, I’m a registered republican”
By luckovichisaheadcase
August 9, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Cartoon boy got another one right!!! Now where is his outrage about William Jefferson, Democrat-Louisiana and the entire Chicago political machine and the drunken fools in the Democrat leadership led by none other than the charter member of the Liberal Hall of Fame (and Shame) Ted Kenndy? Isn’t cheating, lying and stealing just as bad when anyone does it?
By rushncap
August 9, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
My question is: how many of the pitchers whose balls Barry drowned in McCovey were juiced as well? I have a hard time believing that in the one position where power is measured directly — miles per hour — everyone was clean, while the hitters around them lined up with their bottoms facing the needle.
By Paul
August 9, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
N-GA
Tues evening you asked me a question regarding the Second Amendment and FISA legislation. I responded Wednesday at 12:00 (cut off) and 1:08. I believe you were gone by then.
Just tying up loose ends -
“Barolo at 100” sounds like an Outback commercial ‘No rules, just right!’
By Dusty
August 9, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
Pope RedNecks,@ 10:49
Maybe you should just SHUT your mouth.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
August 9, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
Hey Gary,
Stop working my side of the street.
RWNJIFG
By Mike
August 9, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Interesting previous comments about the death threats that Aaron received while on his way to the homerun title. I assume most thought his title run was a walk in the park no pun intended. Funny since each city he played, the police knew it as well as the baseball commissioner and the rest of baseball management at that time. Please continue to hate on Barry. That just make you the same as those people who hated on Aaron. Barry just does not care what you think and neither do I. Make your haters your motivators.
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
{{{… Eager to throw out its thousands of years of culture and experiences and thoughts and habits and beliefs and religions.}}}
Gary,
Since you clearly care about cultural traditions, can I conclude that you are not in favor of the ACLU waging a war against Christmas, or of groups redefining marriage?
Or are Americans the only ones who are expected to give up their culture (which is grounded in Western Civilization) in the interest of “multi-culturalism”, “diversity” and other politically-correct notions?
By getalife
August 9, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
“China dollar attack would be ‘foolhardy’ : Bush
President George W. Bush on Wednesday said China would be “foolhardy” to attempt to push down the dollar in retaliation for US pressure over Beijing’s alleged currency manipulation.”
Pot to kettle.
The so called “superpower”, bogged down in another third country failed occupation paid for by borrowing a trillion from a communist country who is using this trillion earned from us to build up their military.
“Foolhardy”?
More like idiotic.
Geez.
By The BlogFather
August 9, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
What is the mission of the Surge? To kill AL Queda in Iraq.
What if all Al Queda in Iraq is destroyed?
What is the mission in Iraq then? Al Queda is only one of the four fronts of the war in Iraq.
We may get Al Queda in Iraq, but only by arming the Sunni side of the civil war.
Then what? We are borrowing from Dr. Strangelove to pay The Grim Reaper.
By getalife
August 9, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
Not to worry folks, w’s answer to fix our country is to cut corporate taxes.
Giving the gop something to run on.
Geez.
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Dust ball - how are we “aiding the enemy” when we voice our opinions about the war? How? Can you tell me, huh huh, can you tell me? Huh? What?
By Say It Ain't So
August 9, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
And I guess the current tax cuts were still ‘just’ for the rich? Getaclue
By Gary
August 9, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
BD, I don’t read or reread this suff normally. You’re in blind luck this morning. No you cannot “conclude” anyhing. Your ignorance is forever displayed as too innate and overwhelming. Your gross inferiority in all things always will keep you waaay out of your leage. It’s why you “live” on this silly blog.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
August 9, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish says: “Or are Americans the only ones who are expected to give up their culture (which is grounded in Western Civilization)”
Of course we have to discard the shackles of Western Civilization that brought us egalitarianism, seperation of powers, habaes corpus, seperation of Church and State and the notion that we are endowed by our Creator with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. All of these values are pre-9/11 ideas. To try to suggest that they are relevant in a times such as these is to forget the lessons of 9/11.
Western Civilization led us to a place where we were free, largely wealthy and also in many cases immoral, materialistic and shallow. Sometimes even homosexual. As conservative writer D’Souza and conservatives like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell pointed out it was these by products of freedom that either invited or caused the attacks.
So what we have to do is to go with an Eastern philosophy that promotes theocracy and totalitarianism. Once we have joined religion with Government so that acting immoral can be punished with death we will be free from the terrorists and the liberals alike.
RWNJIFG
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
According to MSNBC, the home of your hero Keith Olbermann, as of March of 2007 we borrowed $350 billion from China not “a trillion” which means you are off by roughly 70%.
Is that Moonbat math or Moonbat propaganda?
By Gonna Love 08
August 9, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
I think these asterisks represent what goes on in Dubyas mind when he is asked any question.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Roadside bomb attacks in Iraq reach an all-time high
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
LWNJ,
I’m running out and don’t have time to read your screed right now, but for the past 2 days you have misspelled “Separation” as in “Separation of Powers”.
It’s getting to be a tad tiresome, and as such you’ll pardon me if I find it tends to discredit your tiresome schtick.
Later maybe…
By getalife
August 9, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
“Hillary is a disaster waiting to happen, and there’s an 80% chance
that she’s the next president of the United States.”
— Rush the heroin junkie, afraid of strong women
w is the disaster, she will start to clean up his mess.
BTW, China’s market is a sure winner.
The dollar is a sure loser now that they own us and can nuke our economy.
Invest wisely.
By getalife
August 9, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
BD,
The trillion is the estimated cost of w’s occupation to end of his term.
We borrow from Japan too.
Lets hope they do not nuke our economy like we did their country.
Geez.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
August 9, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
The fact that you are unable to substantially address the post of a person who is flawed to the point of suffering typos says what about you?
Rather than focusing on the typo why don’t you address the fact that the right, justifiably mind you, craps all over Western Civilization and then you act like you are its defender. You and I as wingers completely disavow the Western Civilization that spawned Classical Liberalism that eventually spawned our Constitution.
We are for a Bible-based totalitarian state that does not allow room for immorality or dissent. We are dying for our own home grown Christain Ayatollah figure that will cleanse the land of evil and then look outword to spread the word of Jesus, by force if necessary. That is what you are. That is what I am. Deal with it. Accept it or go be a damn liberal who values individual freedom over the health, safety and welfare of the State.
RWNJIFG
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
{{{{By getalife August 9, 2007 11:37 AM The so called “superpower”, bogged down in another third country failed occupation paid for by borrowing a trillion from a communist country who is using this trillion earned from us to build up their military. “Foolhardy”? More like idiotic.}}}}
getalife: You’ve heard of the Internet, haven’t you?
{{{{WASHINGTON (CNN 1999)— The White House defended National Security Adviser Sameul Berger on Wednesday after several Republican presidential contenders called for his resignation over the China nuclear scandal. “The allegations surrounding the transfer of atomic secrets to a potential enemy are the most serious since the Rosenbergs went to the electric chair for atomic espionage in 1953.”)}}}}
First Clinton gave them the technology then he gave them the money:
{{{{WASHINGTON (CNN- 2000) — President Clinton closed years of political and economic debate Tuesday, and sealed a major achievement of his administration by signing a bill extending permanent, normal trade status to China.}}}}
What do you want Bush to do, start a war with them?
Geez.
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Since dust ball is too big of a coward to answer the question I’ve been asking all week, I open it up to all neo-con nut jobs…Can anyone please tell me how voicing a dissenting opinion on the war can undermine our troops in any way?! Please! Anyone! I’ll even read Andy’s response for once if he can manage to carry a thought…
By Fly-on-the-wall
August 9, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
If you all want to get a very good ‘informed’ look at W’s past and present then buy the Molly Ivins book - “Who Let the Dogs In”. Her book covers Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and W. She paints a picture of W that I’ve not heard before and she is very compelling as she investigates her information first versus reprinting whatever is seen on the web or heard on talk radio. W is just an idiot and she proves it! To bad she’s gone now (she died earlier this year I believe) because the power of her word was very strong.
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
{{{{By nut job August 9, 2007 12:43 PM Accept it or go be a damn liberal who values individual freedom over the health, safety and welfare of the State.}}}}
Yeah, tell that to the million and a half babies that you liberals drilled holes in their heads.
Oh wait, you can’t tell them how great you are.
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
{{{{By anidiot August 9, 2007 12:49 PM Since dust ball is too big of a coward to answer the question I’ve been asking all week, I open it up to all neo-con nut jobs…Can anyone please tell me how voicing a dissenting opinion on the war can undermine our troops in any way?! Please! Anyone!}}}}
I suspect Dusty is not in the mood to be showered with lib talking points, so I’ll take one for the team:
{{{{A Ho Chi Minh City museum that honors Vietnam war protesters features a photograph of Sen. John Kerry being greeted by the general secretary of the Communist Party, Comrade Do Muoi.}}}}
Any more silly questions?
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
AJC -“The Democrats’ choice to acknowledge the military’s progress in Iraq signals support for the troops, a message that voters want to hear. But they still heap criticism on Bush and his Iraq strategy, which promises to be a prominent issue in next year’s presidential election.”
Sure can tell its campaign time again…should be easy enough to seperate the goats from the sheep.
By SarahConnah
August 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
Meanwhile…back at the point:
Lemme try this.
I see ML’s illustration as:
“Let he (or she) who has not sinned cast the first stone.”
Curtsie!
By The BlogFather
August 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Counter insurgency techniques.
who knows what these are?
who cares?
Dont post till you google the kurds.
And no posting after closing time at 7:00 PM.
Notice anyone missing today?
Bwa
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
Duh @1:08- I suspect Dusty is not in the mood to be showered with lib talking points, so I’ll take one for the team:
{{{{A Ho Chi Minh City museum that honors Vietnam war protesters features a photograph of Sen. John Kerry being greeted by the general secretary of the Communist Party, Comrade Do Muoi.}}}}
Any more silly questions?
Duh…Huh?…we’re not talking about some politician’s photo-op…I’m asking specifically (since I am accused almost every day), how am I (a regular American citizen) contributing to the downfall of the Iraq effort by voicing a dissenting opinion about the war? I don’t know how to ask the question more plainly, if you don’t get it, please don’t attempt an answer…one could go round and round with all your personalities throughout the course of the day, Andy…I don’t wish to go on a wild rabbit chase with you. Just answer the fking question.
By Bosch
August 9, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
Um, Mike at 11:27. Please tell me, how is hating a man enough to threaten his life and kill him for breaking a home run record (Hank Aaron) the same as being disgusted with a steroid shooting freak of nature (Barry Bonds) who can’t play the game without the drugs?
Care to explain that one?
I don’t HATE Barry Bonds, I think he is a COWARD. Big difference there.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
August 9, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Duh says: “Yeah, tell that to the million and a half babies that you liberals drilled holes in their heads.”
That is exactly my point. We have to restrict, or get rid of, individual freedom because we can’t trust what people will do with it. Many times people will act immorally when they are free. Much of the immoral conduct can’t even be punished in a free society like strip joints, porn and adultery. Essentially so called victim less crimes against God but between consenting adults are off limits from State interfernce. That is crazy and its what led to 9/11.
In addition, a lot of times people use their freedom to say things that embolden the enemy. Is that really a freedom that we can live with? I don’t think so and glad that you agree with me.
Back to the original point, we must get away from the Western Civilization values that put the individual above God’s laws. You see the Constitution was written with the concept that God gave us natural rights that protected the People from the Government. That is what leads to 9/11.
What we must revert to is a situation where the Government is synonomous with God and we are subservient to it so that the masses can be protected from individuals. We have to turn Western Civilization inside out. In short, we must have a Government like Iran, but only with Christians.
RWNJIFG
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
{{{You and I as wingers completely disavow the Western Civilization that spawned Classical Liberalism that eventually spawned our Constitution.}}}
AND
{{{We are for a Bible-based totalitarian state that does not allow room for immorality or dissent.}}}
Nut Job,
Speak for yourself, you ridiculous clown.
{{{Accept it or go be a damn liberal who values individual freedom over the health, safety and welfare of the State.}}}
You must be confusing the word “licentiousness” with “Freedom” and concepts of “liberty”.
“Licentiousness: Acting without regard to law, ethics, or the rights of others.”
AND
“Excessive freedom; lack of restraint: dissoluteness, dissolution, libertinism, license, profligacy. See restraint/unrestraint.”
Last I heard we can’t even choose to do things like eat Trans Fats, allow conservatives to speak at Universities without being shouted down or physically assaulted, voice scientific disagreement over “global warming” without risking your job, or use words like “HO” without risking arrest for “hate crimes” anymore, so your claim that Liberals believe in individual freedom over the welfare of the State is nothing short of farcical.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
August 9, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish: A liberal might say:
“Last I heard we can’t even choose to do things like eat PEYOTE, allow LIBERALS to TEACH at Universities without being shouted down or physically assaulted, voice scientific disagreement over “CREATION” without risking your job, or use words like “Bush should be Impeached” without risking arrest for “Disturbing the Peace” anymore, so your claim that Conservatives believe in individual freedom over the welfare of the State is nothing short of farcical.”
It is every bit the same. However, I would agree that there are certain aspects of the left that would be very comfortable with our eventual destruction of individual liberty. There are people on both sides who want things their way and no other. Of course, the guys on the left are smoking weed and eating Cheetos while our guys are running everything so I would say that we have a better chance at actually being successful in stripping individual liberties than the damn hippies. They can hold up a sign or rush a stage but can they ignore a federal law like FISA, which is a felony, without any repercussions? Hell no. These people couldn’t get out of a speeding ticket.
RWNJIFG
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Nut Job Clown,
I don’t doubt that you have had more than your fair share of Peyote and Weed. Which just proves that I am on the right track when I say that you confuse “Freedom” with “Licentiousness”.
Moreover, the idea that Liberals have been constrained from speaking or teaching at our universities is just one more farcical statement by a clown.
Here’s some news for you all:
Murder charges against a US Marine accused of killing three Iraqi civilians during an alleged massacre in Haditha two years ago have been dropped, the military said on Thursday. /A statement released by the Marines at their Camp Pendleton base in southern California revealed that three charges of unpremeditated murder against Lance Corporal Justin Sharratt had been withdrawn. …Sharratt was accused of shooting three Iraqi men execution-style in what prosecutors alleged was part of a rampage that left 24 civilians dead following the death of a Marine in a roadside bomb in November 2005.
How many of you Moonbats gave this Marine the benefit of the doubt, as N-GA asks that we give Barry Bonds?
As I recall there was quite the rush to judgment from the “We support the troops but noy the war” crowd.
By getalife
August 9, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
Poor McLoser
Geez, gop freak show.
By Dusty
August 9, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Hmm.. I see that the usual libs have been taking their steroids and are out flexing their muscles against any good news from Iraq and making sure that the enemy is happy.
Duh for Democrats,@1:08 I hadn’t heard about the Ho Chi Minh museum that honors Viet Nam War Protestors. I suppose they have Jane Fonda’s picture on the big gun along with Kerry’s photo. Sounds like something I hope to never see the likes of again.
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
{{{{Murder charges against a US Marine accused of killing three Iraqi civilians during an alleged massacre in Haditha two years ago have been dropped, the military said on Thursday. A statement released by the Marines at their Camp Pendleton base in southern California revealed that three charges of unpremeditated murder against Lance Corporal Justin Sharratt had been withdrawn.}}}}
So when will Murtha’s apology press conference be held?
By Bosch
August 9, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Dusty, Why would they have John Kerry’s photo in a Vietname War Protestor museum?
By getalife
August 9, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
It is so hot, the troops should take August off like both governments.
w spewed ganzo did nothing wrong.
Fine, answer the accountability questions and turn over the emails.
w should stop using executive privilege if they have done nothing wrong.
Nixon was more of a man than w. At least he manned up and resigned.
By getalife
August 9, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
BD,
“Noy”?
Come on, it is getting tiresome.
Geez.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
August 9, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Didn’t the Univ. of Colorado just fire Ward Churchill? Of course, he should have been shot, but the point remains.
At what point exactly does “Freedom” become “Licentiousness”?
Is it at “I’m not sure the war was such a good idea.” Or “The war was a really bad idea”? How do you draw the distinction? Or is any comment that is not Pro-war “Licentiousness”?
Should strip bars be made illegal?
Should people be thrown in jail for adultery?
Should porn be criminalized?
How do you decide that weed is bad but porn, cigs and booze are good? Or is it really not the job of Government to make those distinctions?
I think what I am trying to say is that once you decide that Government has any busines in controlling the behavior of adults that isn’t actually harming anyone but themselves aren’t you saying that the rules can expand and retract as the circumstances change?
In a post-9/11 world I would argue that they should be contracted completely so that the rules are clear: be supportive of Bush or die. That way we really don’t have to draw fuzzy lines around what is “Licentiousness” and what is “freedom.” In the final analysis if you want freedom you are going to have a lot of “Licentiousness.” And my question is can we risk that when the stakes are so high?
I think the gut instinct of most of my friends on the right is that the risk is too high and the value of the freedom to low.
RWNJIFG
By Concerned Citizen
August 9, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
With respect to the Haditha Marines and anyone else over there serving. I can tell you this as a person who opposes the war:
There should never ever be any crimes charged against anyone who is over there, period. For anything. The guys signed up to protect America and they got dragged into Bush’s theoretical fantasy. Are some of these guys gonna lose it and do something they shouldn’t? Sure. Are we gonna have a bunch of troops who have lost their soul over there coming back killing people or themselves when they’re done with this crap? Absolutely. Comes with the territory. I had an uncle who laid on the RR tracks after he came back from WWII. War screws people up and that’s one of the many reasons it should not be undertaken as lightly as it was in this case.
But when I see our kids being sent to prison or facing the death penalty just so that we can impress Maliki it makes me sick. The liberals aren’t having these guys arrested the C&C is. I say give ‘em all a medal, bring them home and put Bush and Cheney on trial.
That’s from a proud liberal. So GFY!!!! Hard!!!!!
By Al
August 9, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
Nice, Gary. Very nice. But these Repunk fools are too stupid to understand. It’s wasted effort.
There IS no good news from Iraq, dustbrain. Only your imagination and hallucinations.
See scooter is here as well. Ride him like a sled, belly down. A little xtra enjoyment during the bumps. And old fecal-face BD is still defining things for us out of his 30 cent paperback dictionary. “If it haint thar, hit don’t exist.” What a display of Americana these freaks are. And damned proud of it too.
By getalife
August 9, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
One of my favorite bands gets censored by a major corporation
This is the new America and it sux.
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Concerned Citizen August 9, 2007 2:46 PM I had an uncle who laid on the RR tracks after he came back from WWII.}}}}
I had a 39 year old colleague on the 93th floor of the World Trade Center north tower at 8:46 a.m. on September 11th, 2001 and all he got was some stupid memorial service with grieving relatives.
Lots of Jews got ushered into the gas chamber at Auschweitz during World War 2, I wish your uncle could have known how much we appreciate the sacrifice he made for freedom and righteousness, maybe it would have helped him.
What I do know for sure, is there are a lot of young men putting everything on the line to fight evil and tyranny right now, as we speak, and for them to come home and hear that their valiant struggle was wrong, or that we should quit, how many minds do you think you’re messing up?
GFY is right (Good for you.)
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
How about a bill called “Restoring our Constitution”?
By Dusty
August 9, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this
Bosch@2:30
There are many resons why John Kerry’s picture is in a Viet Nam Anti-War Protestors Museum.
He served four months in the war, later becoming a vocal critic of the Viet Nam War.
His 1971 book “The New Soldier” was a collection of anti-war statements by veterans. But the cover was the most objectionable. The cover pictured anti-war protestors with an American flag flying upside down. Many thought it was a “put down” of the famous Iwo Jima flag picture.
In 1971 he joined a group of war protestors and threw the medals he had received in Viet Nam over a protective fence at the US Capitol. Later he confessed that he only threw “copies” of his medals.
Communist Viet Nam appreciated his help for their side and put his picture in their museum as American Anti-War Protestor. The picture is one of Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party.
If you would like more information, go to Google and call up ‘John Kerry Anti-war Protests Viet Nam.’
By I can't believe he's that stupid
August 9, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
Duh, PTSS affects the minds of a soldier a lot more than words. I know a lot of military; many who have been to Iraq, but I don’t know a single one whose mind is messed up by peace talk; many themselves have believed the same thing; get out. One thing about these military members is that they are all mature and understand the freedoms they are protecting. So please stop degrading our military.
By Explain the difference
August 9, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Kerry pictured with Vietnamese guy in 1993…..
Nixon going to Communist China…..
Bush holding hands with Saudis….
um?
By getalife
August 9, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
Why you think we call him duh?
Anyhoo, here is another diary written by the same person In the News linked
By mm
August 9, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Ah, another day of crap postings by the wingnuts.
The US is in debt up to it’s eyeballs, but Bush wants to cut corporate taxes. And the wingnuts applaud.
We need government funded healthcare. The wingnuts boo because the government needs to butt out of our lives.
Bush wants more spying power on Americans (what happened to butt out of our lives?). And the wingnuts applaud.
Bush threatens sacntions against countries constantly, but China threatens us, and the wingnuts cry foul.
Can Bush find anymore of our great country to destroy? And the wingnuts applaud.
The 2008 election will be the biggest landslide for either party in history. And the wingnuts will be no more.
By Bosch
August 9, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
Dusty, It was a rhetorical question -
“He served four months in the war”
He has the right to protest. Everything else is fodder.
By Duh stands for Democrats
August 9, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
{{{{By I can’t believe he’s that stupid August 9, 2007 3:17 PM Duh, PTSS affects the minds of a soldier a lot more than words.}}}}
1) Post Traumatic Stress Disorder affects far fewer soldiers than your silly lib media has made you believe. There are also far less junkies, jail birds, baby killers and all of the other negativity that you pinko liberals love to wallow in.
2) I know a bunch of Men that are Proud of their service in both World War 2 and Korea, because they freed people from mass murder and slavery. They live fully normal lives and the most happy times of their existence are when we as a nation honor their sacrifices, see Reagan speaking at Point Du Hoc.
3) Notice how I didn’t mention Vietnam paragraph #2, you filthy liberals went and took a valiant effort by our soldiers, one that they still believe in today, and turned it into a humiliating defeat.
One that they are rightfully ashamed of.
You are the problem with our soldiers.
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Wow! I come back from my business runs and find RWNJIFG and concerned citizen kicking yall’s Assterick!!
Dust ball - you are a coward! You still won’t answer my question…because you don’t know. You’ve never really thought about it. You just jumped on a bandwagon one day and decided to ride it for a while cause you like to hate. Why does it make you feel good to hate, Dusty?
By Teddy
August 9, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official…”
Theodore Roosevelt
By Duh is for Dunce
August 9, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
””” Post Traumatic Stress Disorder affects far fewer soldiers than your silly lib media has made you believe. There are also far less junkies, jail birds, baby killers and all of the other negativity that you pinko liberals love to wallow in.”“”“
I suspect there is one more than Duh thinks.
By GodHatesTrash
August 9, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
Evidently, Lyme’s Disease causes retardation and dementia.
When were you bit, Andi/e Duh?
Trash.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Stocks fall; Dow plunges 300 points
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
Administration Fights Dem Plan to Boost School Aid for Vets
By getalife
August 9, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Lyme disease?
Geez.
By Paul
August 9, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
In the News
Any opinions on any of this? For example, do you support taxpayers paying all college costs (room, board, tuition, fees) for all veterans? Doing away with the current system, where military contribute towards it? For all veterans, even those who served a 4-year hitch spent entirely, say, working in public affairs at Robins AFB in Georgia? For any college they can get into, from the local community college to Columbia (over $50,000 a year?). As far as the quote from the vet’s lobbyist, do we really want to encourage vets to leave after one or two enlistments, rather that going for a career?
Just wonderin’ what you think -
Some inner city schools in Atlanta could sure do a lot with the million we’d spend on a few people who decided to make a career change-
By Dusty
August 9, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Bosch 3:37,
Kerry was protesting while Americans were in torturous prisons. His actions encouraged the cruelty of those running the prisons. It has been documented by those being held.
You may not mind that kind of “fodder” being associated with your name but I do. You may insist that such actions do not encourage the enemy. That is unrealistic.
From now on, I will know that you only want approval of your anti-war protests and nothing else. I won’t waste my time answering such fodder.
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
””” While the museum clearly honors opponents of the war from America and other countries, it is not clear that the photo of Mr. Kerry is part of that tribute. The picture of the senator hangs among a set of photos devoted to the restoration of diplomatic relations between America and Vietnam in the 1990s. It was apparently taken as Kerry took part in a delegation President Clinton sent to Hanoi in 1993. Other photos nearby show visits during that period by former American officials who played key roles in the Vietnam War, including a Navy admiral who has since died, Elmo Zumwalt, and a defense secretary, Robert McNamara. A secretary of state during Clinton’s term, Warren Christopher, is also shown meeting Vietnamese officials ” — Josh Gerstein”“”
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
CANT FIND DOCUMANTATION ON THIS
“”Kerry was protesting while Americans were in torturous prisons. His actions encouraged the cruelty of those running the prisons. It has been documented by those being held.”“
By IN THE NEWS
August 9, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
CORRECTION _
CANT FIND DOCS ON THIS
“His actions encouraged the cruelty of those running the prisons. It has been documented by those being held.”“
By Contradiction
August 9, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
So, if a protest leads to more cruel treatment of American POWs (unproven), its bad. But if GITMO and torture under bush lead to more cruel treatment of American POWs (proven) it is good?
By DebbieDoRight
August 9, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
I’m ready for a little levity — enough of the bullying and pouting already!!! Enjoy the day, seize NOW, forget yesterday! Happy hour is just around the corner!!!
http://thatvideosite.com/video/1010
By bon scott
August 9, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
There goes Andy again, with a completely unsubstantiated claim that has absolutely, positively nothing to to with Iraq, Bush, oe Barry Bonds, or the mean lake level of Lake Lanier.
By Duh stands for Democrats - August 9, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this - {{{By nut job August 9, 2007 12:43 PM Accept it or go be a damn liberal who values individual freedom over the health, safety and welfare of the State.}}}}
—//Yeah, tell that to the million and a half babies that you liberals drilled holes in their heads./—
More meds for Andy!! More meds for Andy! Give him primers on basic math, logic and common sense!
What an absolute, makes no sense, squished fly on the wall clump of comparisons. What does anything he posts have anything to do with anything?. If Andy says it, you know…. KNOW it aint true.
Grab a gun Andy and head for Iraq. I don’t want yoou to die (last about 20 minutes anyway), but as much of the world as possible must be exposed to your genius before uou meet your maker.
By Paul
August 9, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Dusty, In the News,
If I may interject, from the History News Network a couple of years ago, full article at the link (oh, and it’s called “psychological torture” - you know, the torture so many accuse the US of doing to those poor jihadists) -
“many American veterans and their families deem Kerry’s past public excoriation of U.S. troops as unforgivable acts bordering on treason. As a result, veterans have formed several groups opposing Kerry’s presidential ambitions. The root cause of their anti-Kerry sentiment is summarized by the publication U.S. Veteran Dispatch , which notes that Kerry’s aforementioned testimony “occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons.” Indeed, Senator John McCain has stated that his North Vietnamese captors had used reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners.”
Link: History News Network - It’s not just what you do or say, it’s how others use it
By Funny
August 9, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
Funny how good of friends McCain and Kerry are. That tells me there is a whole lot less to it than meets the eye.
BTW, did the article say how the prisoners reacted to the taunts; probably had no effect.
By The BlogFather
August 9, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
It sure is hot.
By Paul
August 9, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
Funny
My opinion - it was a lot of years ago. People grow, change - and see no good comes from holding on to the bitterness of the past. McCain and Kerry have visited Vietnam together - in pursuit of something greater than their respective pasts and the unfortunate events that occurred.
Your last sentence - violation of “humane and lenient treatment” (the protocols), is determined by the act, not by the effect.
By Concerned Citizen
August 9, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
Duh,
Our guys did their job. They won the war. Bush lost the peace. In fairness, no one could win the peace in that environment without killing a whole lot of people just to get them in line. Soldiers aren’t the solution in Iraq. They’ve done all that they can do.
Remember when Bush said “when they stand up we’ll stand down?” How long are you gonna wait? How many men are you willing to sacrifice waiting for a day that ain’t comin’? They aren’t standing up. They aren’t going to stand up. All you are doing is sending kids to a slaughter so that Bush can run out the clock. You don’t support the troops you want them to die at the alter of Bush’s ego. You are sick, twisted individual. I think you’d shoot a soldier in the face if it gave Bush 5% in the opinion polls. Yes that is what I think of you and all those like you. You aren’t Americans, you are Bushies. You don’t support the troops, you support Bush.
Again GFY!
By Dusty
August 9, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
Thank you, Paul,(4:44) for giving us facts. You have saved me from spending time trying to validate what I had read and heard some time back.
Even facts won’t convince some here and we will once again hear “fodder”.
But thanks again for placing truth before doubters one more time.
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
Paul - so I guess Jesus should have never spoken out against those pharisees and sadducees…he was just advocating peace and look what they did with his words…look where it got him. Anybody remember that ol’ 70’s tune…”look what they done to my song”?
By Paul
August 9, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
You are welcome, Dusty. They are intertwined - political protest, enemy propaganda efforts, acting upon conscience (or hatred). Just as those who have heartfelt opposition to a military action have a right (or duty) to oppose the action, it is also their responsibility to consider how their words or actions may be used against the military forces in whose name they profess to protest. Likewise, those who support a military action should consider how not offering critiques, suggestions or criticisms may delay the outcome or lead to a less than optimum conclusion.
By @@
August 9, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
Well I think Paul just may have answered raisedanidiot’s question.
Q: (((Can anyone please tell me how voicing a dissenting opinion on the war can undermine our troops in any way?! Please!)))
A: (((It’s not what you do or say, it’s how others use it.)))
Al Zawahiri has been mentioning the U.S. and its’ dissenting voices in his videos. I’m guessing it serves as a motivational tool for the jihadists.
Didn’t some psychiatrist at Harvard recently do a study that found 1 in 5 VietNam vets initially suffered PTSS, and in later years it was reduced to 1 in 10.
PTSS isn’t exclusive to veterans of wars. PTSS can occur after auto accidents, sexual assault, near-death experiences, emotional or physical abuse in a child or adult. It’s an equal opportunity disorder.
By Funny
August 9, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
So taunts are now torture? Were they in the Geneva Convention?
By Paul
August 9, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot 5:18
You didn’t reference the situation in which Jesus made his comments - as a direct rebuke, used as an example, subtle criticism through his answers - so I really don’t see your point -
BTW - I think the whole “peace I leave with you, not as the world giveth” thing illustrates the teaching was a bit different than the material, current political events many make it out to be - but if the other works for you, that’s fine, too.
Funny 5:29
You may want to read the Conventions. There are general and specific standards. Specific items not addressed oftentimes fall under the general standards which are (think in terms of the Koran that was never flushed).
By raisedanidiot
August 9, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Well Paul, I don’t carry a bible around so I can’t give you a bible lesson right now, but if you’re a good card-carrying christian you have read where Jesus throughout the NT rubbed the religious leaders of the time the wrong way…and yes, it was very political. It was all about politics to the Pharisees and Sadducees (early Repugs and Dems..ha ha)…but Jesus wanted to show them a better way to live…a peaceful way…a loving way. The religous leaders saw Jesus as a threat to their control. He was a non-conformist no matter how you look at it. He wasn’t afraid to speak his mind because he wanted people to live, not die. He wasn’t afraid of the enemy twisting his words…and I’m not either! This war is wrong…no matter how you look at it…no matter how much power George achieves…no matter how much my patriotism is questioned…its still WRONG!!
By @@
August 9, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
Everybody wants to be a player in the Middle East. From Stratfor…
(((Syria is enjoying soaking up the spotlight thanks to playing host to the Aug. 8-9 international security conference over Iraq. Though Damascus is getting a good taste of the international recognition it craves, it will pay the price for cooperation on Iraqi security by inviting jihadist attacks on Syrian soil.)))
(((Even if Syria’s security and intelligence apparatus reassures the jihadist camp that the talk of cooperation over Iraq is all for show, it is unlikely to convince them, since they are seeing the gradual disappearance of their havens in Syria and Sunni areas in Iraq, such as Anbar province.)))
Ooooo, I like that part “disappearance of their havens in Sunni areas in Iraq”.
(((Thanks to these shows of cooperation, Syria is probably going to fall into the jihadist pit. The intensity of these prospective jihadist attacks most likely will be within Syria’s well-trained security apparatus’ ability to handle. To deal with them, President Bashar al Assad will have little choice but to follow in his father’s footsteps and order his military to do whatever it takes to crack down on these militants and their supporters. Syria went through this in 1982 with the Hama massacre, which suppressed a revolt by the Muslim Brotherhood, killing more than 10,000 people in the process.)))
By Paul
August 9, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot
Well I got a laugh out of your Dem and Rep comparison. My recollection is the P&S took the hits because of rank hypocricy - preaching one thing, doing another; using their positions for power, not to serve - and I do seem to recall they were quasi-political leaders, in cahoots with the Romans.
Most of the time I thought of those guys as “leaders who wore the religious robes” rather than “religious leaders.”
As far as the war - well, we’re in it. Hopefully some good will come of it.
@@ 5:58
Before I got to the last paragraph, I was thinking “the jihadists are really going up against the Syrian security forces run by Bashar “Geneva what?” Assad? ”
The human rights folks are going to have their hands full with that one!
By @@
August 9, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Well Paul, you fight fire with fire unless you’re the U.S.—then you just sit back and let the voices of dissent within our own country complain about panty raids on captured extremists.
By RW-(the original)
August 9, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
Is it only Barry Bonds you want to hold in high esteem until and unless he’s proved guilty?
Sounds good to me. ml, I’m going to join N-GA in saying you really ought to wait for some proof before scribbling these horrid accusations. You can do a “Sorry” cartoon and draw it using the names of all the Republicans (and Barry Bonds) that you’ve smeared without absolute proof.
rushncap,
Here’s a story that focuses more on the arm brace/protector that Barry wears.
I’ve always thought he got an unfair advantage from that, but I’d never considered just how much advantage it gave him.
Bosch,
I keep seeing this horrifying account you keep giving about Aaron having teammates move away from and living in fear for his life as he chased down the Babe. Now I know he got some death threats since there are idiots everywhere, but if this was anything near as serious as you keep making it sound how did two white guys jump onto the field and run the bases with him patting him on the back all the way around?
By DoUcH-ebag
August 9, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
Dumb as a box of rocks and a bigtime coward to boot.
Has there ever been anyone so YELLOW??
By Concerned Citizen
August 9, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
Duh,
Only an idiot like you would say that if the Iraqis don’t do anything for themselves that our soldiers will therfore be losers. Don’t put that burden on them. They don’t deserve it. Its uncalled for and basically moronic. Our soldiers won what they were asked to win. They will bring stability to Iraq as many times as you ask them to, but they can not be held responsible for the inaction or indifference of those that they are risking their lives for.
If you want to find a loser look at the moron you voted for twice.
Don’t you ever suggest that our military could ‘lose’ in Iraq again. They won. Bush lost.
By Duh stands for Democrat
August 9, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
{{{{By bon scott August 9, 2007 4:43 PM There goes Andy again, with a completely unsubstantiated claim that has absolutely, positively nothing to to with Iraq, Bush, oe Barry Bonds, or the mean lake level of Lake Lanier. What an absolute, makes no sense, squished fly on the wall clump of comparisons. If Andy says it, you know…. KNOW it aint true. I don’t want yoou to die (last about 20 minutes anyway), but as much of the world as possible must be exposed to your genius before uou meet your maker.}}}}
Geez.
Is bonnie disputing what I said?
Or is bonnie just ranting, an ala finchie psychotic rant?
Can anyone tell?
I’m going out on a limb here and saying that my facts were challenged, we will proceed from there:
Bonnie was right! I was wrong:
{{{{NY TIMES ARTICLE – SEPTEMBER 18, 2005 ON ABORTION More than one in five pregnancies end in abortion. More than 25 million Americans have had abortions since Roe v. Wade in 1973.}}}}
It’s 25 million, not a million and a half.
I was thinking per year, not total.
Thanks for straightening me out bonnie.
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
AHA! You caught me in a typo and “not” became “noy”. That is not at all the same thing as the serial misspelling of “separation” as “seperation”, particularly from someone who is obsessed with the “Separation of Powers”.
NUT JOB,
Ward Churchill was fired for plagiarism, fabricating research, and sub-par scholarship.
I don’t doubt that you think that is an infringement of his “free speech rights” and that the things he was fired for are perfectly acceptable for college professors…and ML’s Moonbat bloggers.
By Duh stands for Democrat
August 9, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
{{{{By Concerned Citizen August 9, 2007 5:10 PM Duh, Our guys did their job.}}}}
{{{{By Concerned Citizen August 9, 2007 6:41 PM Don’t you ever suggest that our military could ‘lose’ in Iraq again. They won.}}}}
You know I didn’t have a post in between these two of yours, which one am I supposed to respond to?
I guess you’re still babbling about 3:08, that was pretty good, wasn’t it?
Anyway, this may come as a surprise but Bush is Commander In Chief of the armed forces. If he won, they won and vice versa.
And I agree with you, they have won the war in Iraq.
By @@
August 9, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
BonScott should have read RW’s link on Barry’s arm brace.
When you’re unhinged, you can’t hit a homerun.
By Concerned Citizen
August 9, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this
Duh, There you go again kissing Bush’s butt again. That’s all you really care about anyway.
Our military has never and will never lose a war. Politicians have lost 2 because they put us in position of fighting for something that the people weren’t willing to do for themselves.
Vietnam was winnable if the South Vietnamese had wanted to win. Iraq is winnable if the Iraqis want it. The problem is that they didn’t and don’t. We should never put our soldier’s destinies into the hands of others. Never.
By Buy Danish
August 9, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this
NUT JOB,
Since I AM interested in scholarship, here are some specifics as to why Ward Churchill was fired:
…The allegations included misrepresenting the effects of federal laws on American Indians, fabricating evidence that the Army deliberately spread smallpox to Mandan Indians in 1837, and claiming the work of a Canadian environmental group as his own.
That smallpox thing is very popular with the Left since they love to portray Americans as deliberate, genocidal killers. Indeed, I’ve heard it repeated right here at MLs by people like DebbieDoRight.
Not to worry though - Ward Churchill isn’t the only proFessor spreading these falsehoods, so you Leftists still have your Academic Army out there doing yeoman’s work for you.