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Home > Opinion > Mike Luckovich > Archives > 2007 > August > 01 > Entry

Cover-up?

By Mike Luckovich | Wednesday, August 1, 2007, 10:57 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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By Goldie

August 2, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

ROFL— good one, Lucko! The talking heads with their TV hair…

By Whiney

August 2, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this

Why does “DIM THE NEWS” always get the first post of the day? Why does “DIM THE NEWS” post so many comments? Why won’t “DIM THE NEWS” let other people be heard?

Is it all that “DIM THE NEWS” knows how to do is cut and paste, cut and paste, cut and paste?

Don’t you have a life, “DIM THE NEWS?”

Do you stay up all night long waiting for 8:00 a.m. so that you can furiously type in the first post?

Why, oh why, oh why!?!?

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

[Our very own media market provides an excellent example of why homogenized media does indeed suck; just four companies control 82 percent of the entire news market here, according to the nonpartisan Free Press organization. Cox Enterprises Inc. owns six radio stations and two television stations, WFTV Channel 9 and its partner, WRDQ Channel 27. Clear Channel Communications Inc. owns seven radio stations.] (http://www.orlandoweekly.com/features/story.asp?id=11503)

By Ralphie

August 2, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Way to go, IN THE NEWS. You really got these repuglikans quaking in their boots. Who would have ever thought of copying the whole entire Huffington Post and posting it into the AJC cartoonist’s blog, man, aren’t you the king?

And to think, I could have been famous too but you beat me to it.

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Hannity on Fox today: “When her cleavage showed, Hillary was really shooting from the hip. Do we have that video? Frank? Play the rack reel. Frank! Play the rack reel, do we have it? FRANK! Play the teat trailer. What? The V-neck vignette. Right! The nip news. What? Then get it. Dammit, Frank. But folks, while we wait, you..uh…you’ve heard of a blockbuster, well this is a knockerbuster! There’s no way anyone would vote for Hillary now. I mean she’s so old and saggy, she doesn’t wear a bra, she uses knee pads. (hannity mimes elongated breasts hitting his knees with his hands). I mean, with all the global warming and all the rain that’s coming, I see Hillary is ready for someone to play “windshield wiper”. One thing, though, I’ll never accuse Hillary of being a tree-hugger again, cause there’s no way she can get that close to a tree….”

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

{{Why does “DIM THE NEWS” always get the first post of the day?}}

Looks like Andy-DUH has his pants in a wad again this morning.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

getalife

This one’s for you (the pic - you can skip the story!):

Link: I’m no Hillary: Argentine Front-Runner

I got a kick out of her comment:

“Hillary was able to position herself nationally because her husband was president. She didn’t have a political life beforehand and that isn’t my case”

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

I AM A MORNING PERSON

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

hannity on fox today: “…Okay, we’ve finally got the Duct Tape for the viewers…watch…..”

By All in

August 2, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

I’ll see your polyps and raise you cleavage. ewwwww!!!

By The Concern of Doom

August 2, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

What on earth are you people talking about? Doom is very concerned about the level of intellect involved with this morning’s posts. Some of you need to take up a hobby, fast!

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 2, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Madness and paranoia can take many different shapes and forms:

{{{{NATION IN BRIEF: Gonzales admits obfuscating- Atlanta Journal Constitution}}}}

This is what passes for work in a democrat controlled Congress, aren’t we all just so fascinated?

~~~~~~

{{{{James Taranto, the very clever Wall Street Journal writer and editor of Opinion Journal.com, has a thesis regarding our political culture. He believes that the liberals are victims of their own cultural hegemony. They say things that are quite inaccurate. Their inaccuracies are repeated by their intellectual look-alikes throughout the culture. They reread their inaccuracies and are roundly confirmed in their ignorance. Conservatives think the liberal opposition is composed of liars or suave deceivers. Actually, our liberals are sincere in their ignorant beliefs. Grant them at least this much. That would take us into an election year with the Democrats saying the war is lost. What will they say if we are, as these analysts seem to think, winning? My guess is that they will continue to say we are losing. Return to Taranto’s insight. The political culture is almost totally befogged by liberal misconceptions and bugaboos. It is, as we say at The American Spectator, a Kultursmog. It pollutes the liberals’ minds and renders them oblivious of any evidence contrary to their gloomy views.}}}}

~~~~~

The spectacle of Thompson’s Republican adversaries demeaning his wife in conversations with newsmen suggests how seriously they regard his prospective candidacy. He starts his campaign in the top tier of candidates, and is already the candidate of the South and the favorite of social conservatives. His test is how he will do after Labor Day when his candidacy’s phantom stage has been finished. Jeri Thompson will be at his side as an asset, not a liability.

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

There are several reasons why many of the Repug candidates will never be elected prez, but which ones really go outta bounds with hatred, attempting to appeal to the most hateful among us?

Elected to the House in 1998, Tancredo has not only led the fight to deport every undocumented worker in America — a proposal that would cost at least $200 billion — but has called for halting all immigration, legal and otherwise.

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

In the Snooze (9:17) What’s the beef about Murdoch expanding his business? The libs have controlled 80-90% of the media for the last ‘who knows how long’ and you want to complain because they now have competition?

And your link to a left wing rag is to be taken as creditable, unbiased reporting? You trash links posted by the conservatives as propaganda machines yet you post liberal propaganda as something worth reading.

You don’t think that the liberal media had a major influence in the last elections?

What are you afraid of? Your lies and misinformation being exposed?

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Even the National Review states that Tom Tancredo is “an idiot”, so you know that says A LOT about his appeal to only 29% of America.

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

The Myth of the “liberal” media

By @@

August 2, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Good question.

It depends on whether Bill could be seen in that crack.

By what the heck?

August 2, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Philadelphia Inquirer August 2, 2007

Detainees’ Lawyers: U.S. Broke Own Rules

By Andrew O. Selsky, Associated Press

Combatant Status Review Tribunals have been held for about 570 detainees at Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. naval base in southeast Cuba. The military determined that all but 38 were “no longer enemy combatants.”

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

[Bill Press: The myth of the liberal media rides again….WASHINGTON (Tribune Media Services) — If you say something often enough and loud enough, people will believe it — no matter how untrue it is](http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/02/21/column.billpress/index.html}

By Cindy

August 2, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Paul at 8:51.

And what can you say for W? Hillary had a better chance without Bill than W had without daddy.

By DebbieDoRight

August 2, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

In The News re: Fox News report. If this is indeed a true and accurate story, it’s frightening.

I have some repug friends who SWEAR by Fox News, and say that, even though I get news from outside the US also for a less distorted view, I am being spoon fed details by the Liberay Media in America. (SIDEBAR: These are normally intelligent people, however they ARE repuglican. I look at this behavior as just a temporary aberration)

By Paul

August 2, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Cindy

Why the comparison? getalife has a good time here with discussions of candidates’ wives (or candidates) physical appearance. That’s why I said he could skip the story. The quote from the Argentinian contender was to illustrate that other countries’ politicians take a different view than many Americans - indeed, her comment was to the “I didn’t need a political husband to launch my long, successful career or keep it going. I have a long, successful career that I got on my own.”

Citing Pres Bush does nothing to counter Sen Kirchner’s assertion; if anything, it strengthens it. (Not every issue reduces to Dem vs Rep, con vs lib, anyDem vs Bush). I think there is far too much dynastic influence (largely brought about by private wealth) in American politics - Bush, Kennedy, Clinton - the list goes on. The other “dynastic” influence is politicians’ cronyism in passing money to spouses and family members - the recent ethics bill is a good start but doesn’t go far enough.

I’m out for a couple of hours -

Cheers -

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

Your link about the liberal media was so important that I chose to cut/paste the entire text here:

[[ The Myth of the “liberal” media

Let’s do a “what if” so I can make a point. I think it’s a good one. I think it’s so good, I’d like to hear from anyone who disagrees.

What if a show like Dateline did a “hatchet job” on George W. Bush? It wouldn’t have to really be a hatchet job, but any honest appraisal of that idiot’s qualifications would prove he’s a non-thinking rich man’s boy - and that’s all. But what would happen if Dateline did an unflattering portrait of Bush?

I’ll tell you what would happen:

The vulgar Pigboy would spend at least three hours saying it wasn’t true and he’d offer hours of rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Bill O’Reilly would spend at least an hour on his show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Sean Hannity would walk all over Alan Colmes for an hour that night, saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Eva Von Zahn would spend at least an hour that night saying it wasn’t true and she’d offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

The Beltway Boys would spend at least an hour that night saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Brit Hume and Tony Snow would spend at least an hour on Sunday saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Juan Williams and Mara Liason would spend their entire allotted time saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

John McLaughlin would spend at least an hour on his syndicated show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Chris the Screamer would spend at least an hour on his show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

G. Gordon Liddy would spend at least three hours on his radio show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Laura the W******* would spend at least an hour on her radio show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Michael Medved would spend at least

By Midori

August 2, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

ah, good ole Bartcop.

I’ve linked his “Myth of Liberal Media” many times on other blogs.

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

cont’d:

[Michael Medved would spend at least an hour on his radio show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Sam and Cokie would spend at least an hour on This W******* saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

George (Judas Maximus) Steffi and George (dumb as a chimp) Will would spend their entire allotted time swearing that it wasn’t true.

Bob Scheiffer would spend at least an hour on Face the W******* saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Tim the Catholic would spend at least an hour on Meet the W******* saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

John Hockenberry would spend at least an hour on his show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Ollie North would spend at least an hour on his radio show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Robert Novak would spend at least an hour on his cable TV show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Paul Weyrich would spend at least an hour on his cable TV show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Still with me? We’re close to the end…

BSNBC’s Brian Williams would spend at least an hour on his show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Wolf the W******* would spend at least an hour on his show saying it wasn’t true and offer rebuttal as to why Dateline was lying.

Bill Schneider and Candy Crowley would do an hour special on CCN (Clinton C** Network) saying it wasn’t true, and offering rebuttal.

John Stossel would have a special on ABC: Is lying OK for liberals?

Then Howie Kurtz would spend 30 minutes on Reliable Sources asking if the media wasn’t being too hard on a developmently-disabled child.

Barbara Olson would write a book condemning Dateline. Ann Coulter would write a book condemning Dateline. Laura Ingraham would write a book condemning Dateline. Peggy Noonan would write a book condemning Dateline. Andrew Sullivan would write a book condemning Dateline. William Safire would write a book condemning Dateline.

OK, we’re going to

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

In the Snooze, And then we have CBS and Rather Dan telling us ‘the truth and nothing but the truth’ I suppose.

More links to an ultra left site that we are to take as unbiased?

What a bunch of BS.

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

part 3, cont’d:

[OK, we’re going to call the above “Exhibit A.”

Now, everyone on that list has done at least a dozen hit pieces on Clinton.

My question is, Where is “Exhibit B?”

When those 38 people attack Clinton and his c**, who does the rebuttal?

Even you ditto-sheep have to admit that nobody on that list has EVER defended a fabricated lie against the president.

There is no “Exhibit B,” because there are so few liberal voices on television. The closest you can get is Eleanor on McLaughlin or Geraldo, but there is barely a liberal whisper on television, even though there are DOZENS of right-wing, Smirk-apologist shows whose livelyhood is lying about liberals.

I don’t think you ditto-heads can offer an answer.]

NOTE: BTW, This was originally written before Barbara Olson died.

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

N-GA,

You forgot Michael ‘It’s True’ Moore doing another docucrap film.

By Cindy

August 2, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Paul, You are just so clever. Glad you put your 8:51 in context for the American politcal slam it was; not against Hillary.

By RW-(the original)

August 2, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Mountain goat,

Your editorial note aside, your cut and paste job is purely hypothetical and many of the characters you claim to mind read for haven’t been in those positions for years.

By the way, Barbara Olsen didn’t just pass away some time recently. She was murdered by Islamic radical terrorists on September 11, 2001 on American Airlines flight 77 that was flown into the Pentagon.

By SarahConnah

August 2, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Diversion, diversion and more diversion! The Buchwacker flips-off congress over Karl Rove, the Rummy lies before a Congressional Committee over Pat Tillman’s murder and what happens? Light’s, focus, action? A bridge collapses in Minnesota! The camera’s rotate 180*. The Anti-Christ has truly taken over this nation and is protecting his protege’ in the white house. Prayer’s and thoughts to the families of the lost and injured in Minneapolis.

Curtsie!

By luckovichisaheadcase

August 2, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Cartoon boy got this half right. It is funny and on the surface it seems silly that the ‘media’ are fascinated by Hitlery’s cleavage. However, when one thinks about it for a little while, the reason for the fascination becomes quite clear: People are truly surprised that Hitlery is really a woman (and by that I mean a HUMAN female). Most people, even liberals, think that she must really be some kind of weird mutation!

By Midori

August 2, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

{{{{{I don’t think you ditto-heads can offer an answer)))))))

By Cindy

August 2, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

RE: Cleavage

YOU GO GIRL!

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

The Juice is still at 754 Homeruns.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 2, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Duh quotes: “He believes that the liberals are victims of their own cultural hegemony. They say things that are quite inaccurate. Their inaccuracies are repeated by their intellectual look-alikes throughout the culture.”

This is so right on. I had a liberal friend who said before the war that:

1) They wouldn’t find significant WMD’s in Iraq

2) Eventually the Admin. would have to admit that there was no connection between the Iraqi government and Al Qaeda or 9/11

3) That if we went in that the long history of distrust between Sunni and Shia would lead to widespread violence

4) That going into Iraq would simply strengthen Iran’s hand since 60% of Iraqi’s are of the same sect as the Iranians

5) That a war in Iraq would serve as a great recruiting tool for Al Qaeda

6) That Iraq would serve as a great training ground for terrorists against live targets: us

7) That Al Qaeda would actually be stronger because of an invasion in Iraq

8) That irrespective of our efforts in Iraq we would be forced to leave Iraq with a very uncertain future

Of course, I said he was an idiot and killed him right there as an enemy combatant. Your right duh. They are SO stupid and we are so right.

Why do they get everything wrong while we get everything right?

Oh that reminds me he also said that Republicans say that Government doesn’t work and then they get elected only to prove that government doesn’t work at least when they are in charge. Obviously he wasn’t around when Brownie did a “heck of a job” so he doesn’t know how wrong he was on that. Libs: F’ing morons. GOP: Genuises.

Have you ever seen Bush talk? I mean he is so eloquent. So well read. So informed. I don’t see how he could ever get anything wrong. I had a kid in my school that had a stutter and a 70 IQ (tops in my class) and he doesn’t speak quite as well as Bush. Now that’s saying something. On an aside that kid could have been a great GOP candidate some day. Unfortunately he died of auto-erotic asphyxiation while reading gay porn magazines. This was really sad becuase he had just given a stirring, stuttering speech to our youth church group about the evils of porn, homosexuality and masturbation. A great loss. I mean this guy was meant to be a Republican politicain like nobody I’ve ever k

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Well,

If it’s not the (R)eal (W)anker…

I had to begin with that since you felt compelled to open your remarks so eloquently.

Hypothetical or not, there is much more truth in that link than in any statement broad-brushing the media as “liberal”. All those wing-nut talking heads and their sound-bites are simply helping to destroy America. Its the sensationalist, tabloid trash media that are dumbing-down our society. And the GOP with their attack-dog splinter groups and non-profit “think-tanks” where they breed the next generation of “thought-police” are leading the charge.

By Musty

August 2, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Hi Dee Ho! Musty here with the morning recap.

Whiney apparently likes to lay abed in the morning! The early bird catches the worm sweet cheeks…. She seems unable to post as much as she wants. Since she hasn’t been banned maybe she should just be less lazy.

Duh makes a brief appearance. He begins his post with “Madness and paranoia can take many different shapes and forms:” Finally something he has some personal experience with. I mean this guy is the poster child for Madness and Paranoia! Listen Duh, is admitting that as cathartic As being admitted to the special ward?

Say it aint so is either a paid GOP blogger or just plain ignorant.. If she don’t agree its propaganda.
The whole post was filled with Madness and Paranoia! Maybe she’s actually Mrs. DUH. That Would make any woman mad and paranoid.

@@ put her toe in the water breifly, but it appears it was too hot for her. Better be carefull cutie-pie, It’s gonna get hotter and stay hotter.

When RW finally got up he was no help at all to his team. Put him back on the bench. Somebody tell that BS artist to put away his broad brush. Anything he posts is a double bogie anyway. I though he was afraid of the Bogie –man!

Well Said!

Off to the Tennis Complex

Time for a swim

Outa Here

Heading for the links

See you at happy hour

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMisforMUSTY

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

{{People are truly surprised that Hitlery is really a woman}}

Andy-DUH is obviously very intimidated by women…

By RW-(the original)

August 2, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

MG,

The dumbing down of America is brought to you by the illustrious government “education” system. For thinking people there are more outlets to gather news and information than there has ever been in the history of the world.

Why do you think IN THE PROP feels compelled to link to every rabid left wing radical site he can find? He hopes you moonbat(ic)s® are too dumb to look at the other side of the story. Sadly he’s right with you guys.

Take an honest look at the hypothetical you felt compelled to spam the blog with. No matter how one feels about President Bush’s performance as President it was all a complete unknown when your hypothetical was written.

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

RWNJIFG,

Stop it!! You’re KILLING me!!!!!!!!

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

THe Minnesota Bridge was brought down by AL Queda homeless people living under the bridge. This was only a dry run for their attack soon on the Bridge to NoWhere in Alaska, man.

I know all. I see all. I am RetroRocketMan!!

By Can't Resist

August 2, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Analchord,

I heard they used the cheese and icepack gag again.

By Billiam the snowman

August 2, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Why is Willard scared of me?

Bartcop rules.

Great toon Mike.

Cleavage, geez.

I think RW is right,

The Dems need to dumb down their rhetoric because the American electorate voted for w twice. They could not understand Kerry, way over their intellect. So they voted for w.

They are not that bright.

Keep it simple stupid.

By @@

August 2, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Musty:

(((@@ put her toe in the water breifly, but it appears it was too hot for her. Better be carefull cutie-pie, It’s gonna get hotter and stay hotter.)))

Are you talkin’ about global warming up ^^^ there?

Four brisk miles on the track this morning. Home for a shower. Decided to chi my hair this morning, going for the straight/sleek look today and now I’m off to the grocery store and possibly some summer wardrobe bargains.

It’s called “LIFE” and it goes along with my not always being here.

I’m flattered that you miss me when I can’t be here.

I don’t gotta, but I’ll try to fit you into my life.

By Hypocrit Alert!

August 2, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

(R)eal (W)anker @ 11:18

{{{{{Why do you think IN THE PROP feels compelled to link to every rabid left wing radical site he can find? He hopes you moonbat(ic)s® are too dumb to look at the other side of the story. Sadly he’s right with you guys.}}}}

Real Wanker always takes both sides into consideration. NOT!

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Mediamatters.org, now there is a straight shooting radical left wing rag.

By raisedanidiot

August 2, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Whiney - your name is sooooo appropriate! ITN is a valuable blogger, providing us all with links to real ITN issues. I understand why you neocons don’t appreciate him because you’d rather spew hateful personal comments and avoid the real issues like your daddy has taught you to do. And on that note, Musty - you are free to do so, but I see no real value in just popping in to personally criticize every one you don’t agree with…be careful, the right-wingers are rubbing off on you, dude. Paul @10:07 -(Not every issue reduces to Dem vs Rep, con vs lib, anyDem vs Bush). I think there is far too much dynastic influence (largely brought about by private wealth) in American politics - Bush, Kennedy, Clinton - the list goes on. The other “dynastic” influence is politicians’ cronyism in passing money to spouses and family members - the recent ethics bill is a good start but doesn’t go far enough.

Don’t fall over, but I totally agree!You’re a pretty fart smeller sometimes.:)

By Kerry the intellectual poseur

August 2, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

“They could not understand Kerry, way over their intellect. So they voted for w.”

Check out Kerry’s picture. Kinda reminds you of Hillary.

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

{{Why do they get everything wrong while we get everything right?}}

Nut Job— you’re also the ones who are so sure of what’s going to happen in Iraq after we draw down our troops… your predictions have always been correct, yes?

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

We aint nevah gonna git outta Iraq

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

everyone. As Americans, we better be able to tell others what that mission is, and not sound like Goebel Goobers.

By Midori

August 2, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

any of you guys ever travel on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel?

It connects Virginia with Maryland’s Eastern Shore.

I was always afraid of that bridge. It seemed as if you could stop your car, lean over, and with little effort, dip your hands into the water.

After last night’s catastrophe in Minnesota, I’m even more afraid of that Bridge.

By Billiam the snowman

August 2, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

They spent a trillion over there but needed to spend it over here.

Gooooooo w.

Geez.

By Skippy

August 2, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS, you reelly r grate. i dont no wat i wood du witout ya. pleese post awl of da moonbat storeys hear, i’m tu stoopit to find dem on my own.

wee countin on u.

By mm

August 2, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Bush gets all riled up when he thinks Iran is arming our enemies. But it’s ok for us to arm Iran’s enemies (ITN 12:22).

And we’ve done it before when we armed the Iraqi’s during the Iraq/Iran war.

Hypocrisy.

By Can't Resist

August 2, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Skippy are you creamy or do you have nuts?

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

SKIPPY

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Not bad, In the Snooze, less than 24 hours to blame the President, the Governor and the Republican party for the bridge collapse.

Why are we not surprised?

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

No proof and no evidence as to what actually caused the collapse at this time. Yet somehow it IS the repugs fault.

Start the false stories early, repeat them often and loudly and by tomorrow it will be an undisputable truth!

How dare you question ‘the facts’, In the Snooze provided all the proof that is needed. Is that not an unbiased news source he has linked to?

Smoke another one.

By Say It Ain't "So What"

August 2, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Wonder where the evidence is that anybody said, “Yet somehow it IS the repugs fault. “”

Parse = bad

Stretch Truth = bad

Mislead = bad

Unable to understand = YOU

By Say It Ain't So

August 2, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

(1:23) Follow In the Snooze’s link and at 12:57 and see if you can see the picture that is being painted.

Mississippi River Bridge…. NAFTA superhighway - the connection? None

Mississippi River Bridge…NASCO…Critics of super corridors complain - the connection? None

Governor veto “a” transportation bill. But used taxpayer money for a ballpark…. Bridge characterized as ‘structurally deficient” - the connection? None

“this tragic collapse is part of a “conspiracy to destroy our country.” but it’s not al qaeda…it’s a “home grown terrorist” group that’s responsible, the republicans.

Now who is unable to understand?

By Cross your fingers

August 2, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

In the News is not a valuable blogger, instead (s)he simply cuts and pastes links from sites that support his/her view (I don’t know or care about your gender). Anyone can find “facts” on websites to support their position. And you know there is a different website that will offer an opposite view point with “facts” to support it.
All people should only believe what they can verify. However, all people only believe what they want to believe. Does this current admin suck? Yes. Would it suck more or less if Gore/Kerry were the CEO? Who knows. Will the next admin suck? Yes. I for one am thankful that the do nothing congress will remain that way. Unless one side gets the appropriate majority, no agendas can be pushed and we are ALL safer for that fact.

By Sue

August 2, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

I’ll just bet that IN THE NEWS is thinking long and hard about each of his posts, carefully fact checking each one, weighing different sources for accuracy, laying awake at night contemplating all of the angles, BEFORE he gives us, the people gathered at the Luckovich Blog to comment on the cartoon, the fruits of his hard labor, instead of just waiting for the next anti Bush article to come out so he can mindlessly spam us with it.

I’m real sure he is.

By I

August 2, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

always thought this was a cartoon site but IN THE NEWS has validated that fact. I use the word fact very loosely when applying it to IN THE NEWS.

By skippy

August 2, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

that skippy writing on here is not skippy of skippy the bush kangaroo of blogtopia, and yes, i coined that phrase!

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

SAY IT AIN’T SO

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

I POSTED THAT FOR THE PICTURE OF SKIPPY THE BUSH KANGAROO FOR THE BENEFIT OF SKIPPY AT 12:46 AND DIDN”T PAY ATTENTION TO THE TEXT.

I APOLOGIZE.

HOWEVER, I MAY JUST DO SOME STUDY ON US INFRASTRUCTURE…..

OH AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS…

“”And you know there is a different website that will offer an opposite view point with “facts” to support it.”“

THEN WHY AREN’T YOU POSTING THESE?

I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONCEPT

BUT ALL I DO IS PROVIDE INFO, IF YOU DISAGREE THEN DO SO. IT”S CALLED DEBATE IN THE PUBLIC FORUM.

WHAT AMUSES THE MAJORITY HERE, IS HOW RILED UP YOU GUYS GET OVER WHATS IN THE NEWS.

By Hypocrit Alert!

August 2, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Sue, Wow, do you do all that? Do you have any actual talking points to contribute? Did you lie awake last night contemplating all the angles of this brilliant post, carefully weighing all the angles of what we, the people gathered at the Luckovich blog would get out of such a post?

These are all rhetorical questions, by the way, no need to answer, because we all know what that answer would be: NO!

By IN THE sNEWS

August 2, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Bush puts pants on two legs at one time!

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

U.S. underestimated Iraq political problems: Gates

By Not a moron like you

August 2, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

“Did you lie awake last night contemplating all the angles of this brilliant post, carefully weighing all the angles of what we, the people gathered at the Luckovich blog would get out of such a post?”

We don’t post hundreds of mindless spams either, you freak.

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

IN THE sNEW

IMMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY

DID YOU SEE WHAT YOU LINKED TO? COOL!

By Cross your fingers

August 2, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

ITN, Who is defensive? I simply stated a fact that you are posting links to support your view, and there are many other sites that offer opposing views. If I choose to agree or disagree with your view (or Andy’s, Goldie, @@, Dusty, etc..) I will do so.
My point is that people believe what they want to believe. Not one person on site has ever changed my mind because, quite frankly, I rarely see a lucid argument. Everyone is speaking with emotion. Do you know what does change my mind? When I can’t find facts to support my position, and can find opposing facts. Anyone can pull one thing from a situation to support their position, and the other side can pull their item to discredit it. I personally focus on the positive facts, and not the mudslinging facts. That is also why I rarely post, everyone on both sides is full of hate. Hopefully you get it all out here and don’t take it into your personal lives.
That’s my two cents, you may call me names if it makes you feel better. As for me, I think I’ll go play with my dog, he only judges me when I fake throw the ball.

By Billiam the snowman

August 2, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

I found your “mafia”:

“Sidney Blumenthal: Omertà (or a code of silence) has become the final bond holding the Bush administration together. Honesty is dishonorable; silence is manly; penitence is weakness. Loyalty trumps law. Protecting higher-ups is patriotism. Stonewalling is idealism. Telling the truth is informing. Cooperation with investigators is cowardice; breaking the code is betrayal. Once the code is shattered, however, no one can be trusted and the entire edifice crumbles.

And this is what the 29%ers are cheering for.”

Just say no to snitching.

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

CROSS YOUR FINGERS

I LIKE FOLKS WHO PLAY WITH THEIR DOGS.

IT SHOWS HEART.

By raisedanidiot

August 2, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

CYF @2:14 -Everyone is speaking with emotion. Do you know what does change my mind? When I can’t find facts to support my position, and can find opposing facts.

That’s what the blog is all about…duuuhhh…would you even look for those “opposing facts” if it weren’t for ITN…doubt it. Why do you neo-cons even come to the blog if you don’t want to hear opposing views, read articles on the issues at hand, and discuss intelligently with those with differing opinions?!

CYF @1:43 -All people should only believe what they can verify. However, all people only believe what they want to believe.

Cross Your Fingers - Can you verify EVERYTHING You believe? Wow! So I guess you’re not a Christian then. But you are right on, and again…duuuhhh…sort of what the blog is all about isn’t it?

Announcement: EVERYONE posting on the blog is FREE to post links to whatever news/sensationalist/controversial site that you wish….duuuuhh

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 2, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

{{{{{By Right-wing nut job in full glory August 2, 2007 11:01 AM Duh quotes: “He believes that the liberals are victims of their own cultural hegemony. They say things that are quite inaccurate. Their inaccuracies are repeated by their intellectual look-alikes throughout the culture.”}}}}

Nutjob: If you carefully read my original post you would find that it says that you liberals are a bunch of uninformed dolts that parrot the same lies you want to hear until you are convinced that it is the truth:

{{{That a war in Iraq would serve as a great recruiting tool for Al Qaeda}}}

And just like clockwork, wham, you come wading in and prove me right.

Thanks.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 2, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

This passes in the liberal media as news:

“The Saudis see Maliki as the cat’s paw of Iran and they think we are actively supporting Maliki,” the NSC official said. “What the monarchy is actively worried about is that guys who got bloodied in Iraq will return home and overthrow them, and that would be very bad for us.”

Isn’t this exactly what Bush said would happen? Bush said that militant, Islamic Saudis would come fight in Iraq, get trained and go make the government of our greatest supplier of oil unstable. He also said that we’d throw out Saddam so that we could get someone our friends in the region would see as a puppet of Iran.

I love it when a plan comes together.

You know I am sick and tired of libs saying that Bush is stupid. This statement from the National Security Council demonstrates his immense wisdom. In fact, I would say that if you put Bush in a room with all of his supporters, there is no doubt in my mind that Bush would be the smartest guy in the room.

RWNJIFG

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 2, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Duh,

Wait a minute. You don’t seem to get it. I said I killed the guy who said that Iraq would be a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda. I killed him because he is the enemy of all that is good and holy. You are right. More precisly, we are right. Everything we said would happen in Iraq is happening just as planned.

BTW: I just can’t wait until we arm Iraq to the teeth so that they can defend themselves in the region. At least next time we invade Iraq it will be a challenge. The last two times have been just to easy. I say that we give the some technology so that our air superiority is jeopardized. What do you think?

RWNJIFG

By raisedanidiot

August 2, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG- You know better than to feed Andy…he’s like a “little shop of horrors” blogger…”FEED ME SEYMORE”!!

By Country Joe

August 2, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Feel Like I’m Fixing To Die Rag

Come on all of you big strong men

Uncle Sam needs your help again

he’s got himself in a terrible jam

way down yonder in the desert sand so

put down your books and pick up a gun

we’re gonna have a whole lotta fun

(CHORUS) And it’s one, two, three, what

are we fighting for don’t ask me I don’t give a damn,

next stop is the desert sand And it’s five, six, seven, open

up the pearly gates ain’t no time to wonder why,

whoopee we’re all gonna die

Come on generals, let’s move fast

your big chance has come at last

now you can go out and kill towel heads

cos the only good Mooslim is the one that’s dead and

you know that peace can only be won when we’ve

blown ‘em all to kingdom come

Come on wall street don’t be slow

why man this war is a go-go

there’s plenty good money to be made

by supplying the army with the tools of its trade

let’s hope and pray that if they drop the bomb

they drop it on that Persian throng

Come on mothers throughout the land

pack your boys off to the desert sand

come on fathers don’t hesitate

send your sons off before it’s too late

and you can be the first ones on your block

to have your boy come home in a box

By Cindy

August 2, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Poor ITN, you sure are taking a neocon trashing today. You must be getting really close to truth. I don’t read most of the sites you post and do enjoy your articles. If I have questions on any of these articles, I follow up with further research. Thank you for your information and please keep up the good work.

By I Found Waldo

August 2, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

But where’s Kensinger?

By raisedanidiot

August 2, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

ITN @3:18 - SWEET! Let’s arm Iran before we invade ‘em…Dickey boy is all over that for us…doesn’t hurt to make a little money before we send more Americans to die.

By IN THE NEWS

August 2, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

THANKS CINDY

By Duh stands for Democrats

August 2, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

{{{{By raisedanidiot August 2, 2007 3:37 PM ITN @3:18 - SWEET! Let’s arm Iran before we invade ‘em…Dickey boy is all over that for us…doesn’t hurt to make a little money before we send more Americans to die.}}}}

Gee, I’ll bet those Iranian F14’s will just eat our Air Force for lunch, shiver me timbers.

Duh.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Right Wing Nut Job 2:55

Actually, that’s been a concern of the Saudi Royal Family for decades. Much has been said about the US supporting OBL in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Of course we did. And the Saudi government - intertwined with Wahabbist ideologues - also supported him with a great deal of money at the same time, with the understanding his actions would be directed at his enemies outside the Kingdom. Did they see it as buying time? I think so. The same was also done with other Islamic extremist groups.

So twenty years later, educated Saudi young men find no progress in infrastructure, jobs, etc etc - of course there is frustration, anger and action. And now it’s turning back on the original sponsors.

And some people wonder why I support CAFE and extensive research into nonpetroleum-based fuels -

By Paul

August 2, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 3:18

Are these the same people who are going to run all healthcare?

Country Joe 3:24

Don’t forget “and the FISH!”

By AmVet

August 2, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Hello all.

Goldie I really chuckled about the “old white men in the GOP!

But then I thought - wow, I’m getting pretty close to that adjective. But the huge difference is that I am still and always will be young at heart!

When I was 17 I couldn’t imagine how any young person in their right mind could vote for Tricky Dick, but am nonetheless never amazed at how some on the far right are very old before their time! Even then.

But it was really rare then.

But then along came Reagan in 1980. It was the first time I had seen “young republicans” as a force and couldn’t help but wondered what the hell happened to them! Those at UGA were truly laughable - I suppose they still are.

To me they were basically a bunch of mean spirited little pr1cks who had the arrogance, but none of the wisdom, of their grandfathers. And their mantra was essentially “screw everybody, I got mine”.

I could have cared less except for their Ronnie-led 1920’s-like war on drugs, war on sex, war on everything they deemed immoral.

My mom who is 82 and escaped Nazi Germany as a young girl is a hoot. She calls them “a bunch of fogeys, who probably never drank, smoked or had sex. All they want to do is go to church and tell you how to live”!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 2, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Duh’s right. We shouldn’t complain about errors that may or may not put our servicemen or the citizens of our allies in danger. (I’m sure the leader of the U.A.E. is laughing his azz of about this.) The point isn’t that this mistake may cost a few lives, it won’t cost us the war. Under these circumstances I think we should keep selling them. We could even do it directly to Iran. I mean lets make some money and even this thing out without risking the war itself. Why not? Its’ basically a meaningless bureauocratic regulation of free enterprise.

The point I think is Support the Troops by giving them a real challenge next time.

RWNJIFG

By The Watcher

August 2, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

F14 parts to Iran

20Billion Arms deal

DOD and MNF-I cannot fully account for about 110,000 AK-47 rifles, 80,000 pistols, 135,000 items of body armor,

Is there a pattern here?

By Dusty

August 2, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS@8:32

YOU ARE WRONG AS USUAL. I haven’t been at home this morning or near a computer and certainly never thought of you.

The bats in your belfry are acting up again, aren’t they?

Now, let me get back to reading what else was “said” here.

By Can't Resist

August 2, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You ought to e-mail the White House with your clever idea to have the Pentagon run U.S. Healthcare!

They’d love that idea!

What with the administrations history of placing highly compentent individuals - Maybe they could bring back that guy from Walter Reed!

Oh, wait, you were just joshin’ right? Being a little snarky, right?

You just think that market based healthcare is the way to go right?

Just like we have now! Only better, right!

Stay the course on Healthcare everybody!

By Paul

August 2, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Can’t Resist

Please let me clarify. The post was sarcastic in that if a government agency generally thought by the public to do a pretty good job (with the mission of killing people and destroying things, I’ll agree - other missions, well…) bungles something so simple, what’s the basis for thinking government will do a super-duper job with health care?

Before anyone cites Medicare/Medicade - anyone here ever read any fraud investigations (NYC comes to mind) and the level of stealing so documented (you’ll have to count past a billion).

Regarding the latter part of your post - it strikes me as the polarization “only two options” thought of so many these days. Problems with current system? There are many, many options available. That was the difficulty I saw with “Sicko” - Mr. Moore documented some real problems with the current system - but then he made the case that there is only one solution. Rather like saying “your car is having problems. Solution? Buy a bike.”

By Gary

August 2, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

AmVet: great 3:48 post. I spent 10 “official” years in the Repub party. After 5 years of military, inluding combat (no big deal.) Big Ohio city. A memer of “The 100.” Socially prominent families w long Repub backgrounds. 40-50 dinners/meetings at the Bankers’Club, Uni versity Club, etc. Guys I’d grown up with, gone to (prep) school, college with, interacted with socially. Every gettogether was exactly the same. They’d check their masks at the door and enter into an evening/night of nothing but hatred, bitterness, intolerance - I could go on and on. I was well-liked, tho none of those scum ever heard me agree verbally with them. At first I made some notes after I got home at night. Then came the tape recorder and I’d record some thoughts and tidbits while driving home. Then I actually taped some of the speakers/discussions. When I had enough stuff I’d have a gal type it all up - for posterity and my own wisdom and to possibly share w others one day. All the while I smiled and mingled and watched and listened and learned from these ugly weak b*******. I had a profession & surely din’t “need” any of them in my life. Had been pruning them outta my life for years, turning down invitations, etc. Them too stupid to realize it. I finally had enough, ultimately became their worst enemy, wrote a few articles for the local Nazi newspaper, got the usual phone/mailed death threats. They are truly the filth of our nation and those I knew so well know well these past many years just where they stand with me. Waaay below me and lucky to be standing at all. I just don’t even tolerate those scum in my presence any more. I retain sooo much hard history with them. They only grow worse in time and are but a curse upon society and will avoid personal confrontation at any cost. Excuse the misspellings.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Medicade, medicaid

It’s a poor mind that can’t think of more than one way to spell a werd.

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

{{When I was 17 I couldn’t imagine how any young person in their right mind could vote for Tricky Dick, but am nonetheless never amazed at how some on the far right are very old before their time!}}

AmVet— I know! They were also a scary bunch at GA State when I was a student back then. It was either the College Repugs or the Jesus Freaks who were always accosting me at the student plaza, trying to sell their wares!

By Cut and run Kesinger

August 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

“In one of his bluntest assessments of the progress of the administration’s Iraq strategy, Mr. Gates said: “I think the developments on political side are somewhat discouraging at the national level. And clearly the withdrawal of the Sunnis from the government is discouraging”

Duh.

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

{{By N-GA

August 2, 2007 10:16 AM |

Barbara Olson would write a book condemning Dateline.}}}

N-GA,

Kerist, could you be any more of an ignorant POS?

Barbara Olson was killed on 9/11 when the plane she was on hit the Pentagon.

She will not be writing anything about Dateline or anything else.

By Cindy

August 2, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

AmVet, You’ve got me laughing so hard my side hurts! I was with a group of “young republicans” in a caravan going to see Tricky Dicky in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. I got to see him give that peace sign in person! I’ve come a long way, baby!

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Someone I call a close friend made a remark to me years ago that is (was?) similar to your 4:23.

He (my friend) tilts right at windmills while I tilt left at life. But we remain true friends.

By Midori

August 2, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

((((NOTE: BTW, This was originally written before Barbara Olson died.)))

Reading is fundamental.

By AmVet

August 2, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Gary, very interesting. But for me, sadly, not at all surprising. Somewhat disturbing, but not unexpected.

I’ve never known what to make of this phenomenon. And it is great news for this nation that the numbers keep indicating that the American people are FINALLY growing disillusioned with this president and the GOP in particular.

Beginning with Newt all the way to GWB, this “new” Republican Party has, shall we say, at a minimum, a VERY poor track record.

As a traditionalist and someone who would just love to see REAL conservatism make a return, I am really very hopeful that this is the swan song for the neo-conservative movement in this country, but I have my doubts.

For many of these clones, national prohibition, endless chosen wars and extreme censorship are just one charismatic leader away.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

N-GA

I had the same experience, years ago. BTW - thanks for the kind words the other day. Some people get past labels, others don’t. Some enjoy exploring new ideas, challenging assumptions, discarding old ways and embracing new. Some don’t. And that’s okay.

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

bi-danish,

your mouth outran your brain once again. simply read all of the post and you will see where I noted her passing.

hag…..

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 2, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Right-wing nut job in full glory August 2, 2007 3:53 PM The point isn’t that this mistake may cost a few lives.}}}}

Nutjob: There isn’t a F18 pilot on Earth that doesn’t fall asleep at night dreaming about Iranian F14’s rising up from their airfields.

Talk about a bloodbath.

And if you don’t understand this little tidbit, then I’m absolutely correct about you having your head up your…

~~~~~~~

{{{{DOD and MNF-I cannot fully account for about 110,000 AK-47 rifles}}}}

You know there are 2 BILLION Chinese AK’s out on the streets of the world, right?

Duh.

By Barbara Olson

August 2, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Yes. It’s true. I’m still dead.

I left nearly 3o others to deal with you ignorant POS.

Jump to soon did ya’?

By AmVet

August 2, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Yes, you have Cindy baby. I just hope you never smoked Virginia Slims!

Sometimes when I think of those days I just hang my head and laugh.

And that my be the biggest difference between Republicans and others - the ability to laugh and not take yourself too seriously!

Though I almost never ever watch it, I remember when one of the women on Desperate Housewives went to the doctor talking about this weird strange feeling she had when making love to her husband.

The lady doctor surmised and told her that she had had an orgasm.

She replied, “Oh No. That can’t be. I’m a Republican!”

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Well gosh, that would require me reading no less that 3 spammed posts, wouldn’t it?

If that was written before Barbara Olson died, why is N-GA cutting and pasting it now as if it has some relevance?

Maybe I’ll post some stuff from Thomas Edison’s day and pretend that the media has not changed since then.

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

{{Problems with current system? There are many, many options available. That was the difficulty I saw with “Sicko”}}

Paul, the biggest problem with our broken system is the for-profit insurance industry, drug companies and HMOs. We’re not looking for the “perfect” solution here, and that’s no reason to delay changing our current system if we’re only going look for and accept perfection before trying something new. Everyone except the insurance industry, etal, agrees that we need a new healthcare system.

The same system that Congress has for its members seems to be working just fine and should OK for the rest of America!

By Cindy

August 2, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

Smoked and inhaled.

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

{{{By Barbara Olson

August 2, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Yes. It’s true. I’m still dead.

I left nearly 3o (SIC) others to deal with you ignorant POS.

Jump to (SIC) soon did ya’?}}}

AND

{{{By AmVet

August 2, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Sometimes when I think of those days I just hang my head and laugh.

And that my be the biggest difference between Republicans and others - the ability to laugh and not take yourself too seriously! BLOVIATE BLOVIATE BLOVIATE.

Huge Blowhard AmVet,

Does the “ability to laugh” include tasteless jokes using Barbara Olson’s name?

By Barbara Olson

August 2, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Bi can’t face the other 30.

So she plays the PRUDE card.

Do prudes say POS or GFY?

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

well bi-danish,

you’ve learned a lot from this administration. never admit you are wrong…just attack, attack, attack!!!

you are incapable of deep thought. you read or hear something…just a soundbite. then you react…a primal behavior no doubt. much like violently pulling your hand away from a burning flame. i guess it’s not really your fault…you can’t control your reactions very well. only adults learn how to do that.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Goldie

I’m not looking for perfection; in fact, I think the all-or-nothing approach embraced by Mr. Moore will likely stall any meaningful change. He’s popularly cited by many as “the” alternative.

Mr. Moore was on Leno about a week ago. Leno asked him if people who can afford it could buy supplemental policies, so they could get a private room or some such, as is true in Canada. Mr. Moore would not answer - he talked about the number of uninsured kids. Leno asked him twice more - still no answer.

So it seems to me a compromise is the only way to get some change. But it’s too tempting to try to score political points while real needs go unmet. The current impasse with the House political maneuverings against the Senate (Orrin Hatch and Jay Rockefeller working together) and Administration over the State Children’s Health Insurance Program is a good example of this.

I agree with your assessment of Congress’s health benefit. BTW - for years, Congress exempted themselves from antidiscrimination laws, equal rights laws and so forth. So this “I have mine, thanks taxpayers” is nothing new.

By Ernie

August 2, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Either way, matter of absolute fact and history is:

Barbara Olson was a vicious, nasty, empathyless, arrogant, professionally and personally hatemongering, bitter, troublemaking, jealous, character assassinating, self-serving individual. If even one person deserved to come to life’s end on 9/11, she fit the role perfectly.

Right up to the bitter end. Remember? “WHAT SHOULD I (I I I I) TELL THE PILOT TO DO??” (sic)

By Dusty

August 2, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Not much here today. Maybe I should print a little song too. Let’s see…

Our troops are dying,

‘Cause liberals are lying

Giving Osama a boost.

From morning to night

They seem to delight,

Stool pigeons come to roost.

They’ve forgotten nine eleven

That sent many to heaven.

They’d rather make fun of our own.

Liberals “support the troops”

With anti-war groups

To make sure our success is “blown”.

They still want to cherish

Everything that is Kerry’s

And poor Al Gore the Bore.

Libs said “Ok, Bush, go to war!”

But war was scary so they backed afar

It’s “We don’t want NO war No more.”

They scowl and make war funding slow.

They rant and rave about Guantanamo.

Their war cry seems like crazy fun,

With white flags and “cut-n-run”.

But, troopers, don’t believe a word of it.

This USA is all for you

‘Cause we believe in the Red,White & blue.

Excuse those liberals, they just aint “fit”.

Glory halleluia!!

By Goldie

August 2, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Oh no, those poor citizens of Minneapolis — Bush now claims that he wants to help them:

Bush: Bridge to be rebuilt as quickly as possible

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

I’m “incapable of deep thought?”

You think that spamming the board with outdated “humor” that predates 9/11 (and the modern media) is a sign of “deep thought”?

Do you really think that we were going to trudge through no less than 3 posts to get to the part where Barbara Olson died? Were you ever going to tell people HOW she died, or doesn’t it matter?

{{{By AmVet August 2, 2007 3:48 PM |

My mom who is 82 and escaped Nazi Germany as a young girl is a hoot. She calls them “a bunch of fogeys, who probably never drank, smoked or had sex. All they want to do is go to church and tell you how to live”!}}}

Huge Blowhard AmVet,

Your mom must not have realized the role that “Progressives”, i.e. “Democrats” played in Prohibition.

Hostility to saloons and their political influence was characteristic of the Progressive Era….Although it was highly controversial, Prohibition was widely supported by diverse groups. Progressives believed that it would improve society and the Ku Klux Klan strongly supported its strict enforcement as generally did women, southerners, those living in rural areas, and African-Americans.

Shall we review who is behind smoking bans in this Country?

As for who has sex and who doesn’t, which group actually has children? The Metrosexuals who rely on Petrie Dishes or the “fogeys”?

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

{{{By Ernie

August 2, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Either way, matter of absolute fact and history is:

Barbara Olson was a vicious, nasty, empathyless, arrogant, professionally and personally hatemongering, bitter, troublemaking, jealous, character assassinating, self-serving individual. If even one person deserved to come to life’s end on 9/11, she fit the role perfectly.

Right up to the bitter end. Remember? “WHAT SHOULD I (I I I I) TELL THE PILOT TO DO??” (sic) }}}

Ernie is complaining that Barbara Olson, who was heroically trying to do something to keep the plane from crashing, didn’t die.

That says it all.

Are you POS Moonbats proud of Ernie? Am I now going to hear that Ernie is an anomaly?

Can I guess that “Ernie” would just have sat by and let it happen? Who knows! Maybe he has 29 virgins waiting for him in Allah’s paradise.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

Goldie

California could serve as a model - the LA quakes of 1994 destroyed several freeways, rebuilt in record time. Same with a recent overpass collapse in San Francisco. A key factor were revising normal bid procedures and including hefty bonuses for early completion. Even so, it cost less than other costs associated with having the freeways remaining closed. In the SF case, the cost was still less than what transportation officials estimated.

Some predicted this would be the legacy of Katrina - in the event of a disaster, federal officials would watch over/take over from state and local officials, right from the start.

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

Is the blog on hold while they make an editorial decision as to whether or not to ban “Ernie”?

He’s such a good liberal, I say you keep him around!

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 2, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

-=-

Goood morning Viet Iran!~

F-14 parts to Iran which will be used to restore F-14’s they already have? Billions in weapons to Saudi-Arabia? Pakistan recieving new nuke tech? Yes - lets just make that desert hotbed hotter and those arms dealers and nuke tech dealers wealthier.

And for those of you who think the f-14 is just a toy, and not a very dangerous weapon, I present for you the F-14 TomCat:

(Sync’s “Top Gun” Soundtrack with images)

Yeah maybe our planes can take em’ down - depends on the number of attackers versus our defenders of course. But I shure-as-hell wouldn’t want to be in a tank out on the open desert when those F-14’s decided to attack the ground forces in a below radar sneak attack. But then again who said Iran would use them against the USA? There are so many other juicy targets for them to use those better than your (country-x) weaponry in the good ol’ Mid-o’-East.

Yes gotta love those arms deals — and the politicians that the money can buy…

“Peace - Through Superior FirePower!”

Cheers’

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

When Hillary showed her cleavage during that speech, she was really shooting from the hips, eh?

By Paul

August 2, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Peoples for a Nuked

Diane Rehm show (NPR) today had Douglas Farah, who just wrote “Merchant of Death” about international arms dealers, particularly Russian Viktor Bouts. All “legal” - and immoral. You can replay the interview at:

Link: Merchant of Death

There’s also an interview with Sen Biden you can replay. He seems to be one of the more responsible, straight-talking candidates. (Note: didn’t say I’d support him, I said he says what he thinks and he backs it up).

N-GA - I’ll finish Morris before I start on Merchant -

By @@

August 2, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

N-GA @ 5:04:

I’ve never known you to start each sentences with lower-case letters before.

(((By N-GA August 2, 2007 5:04 PM

well bi-danish,

you’ve learned a lot from this administration. never admit you are wrong…just attack, attack, attack!!!

you are incapable of deep thought. you read or hear something…just a soundbite. then you react…a primal behavior no doubt. much like violently pulling your hand away from a burning flame. i guess it’s not really your fault…you can’t control your reactions very well. only adults learn how to do that.)))

Whassup with that?

I’ve seen a couple of leftists at Wooten’s do that. tftt, conservative does it. Midori does it. Mike Luckovich does it, but I’ve never seen you do it until your post @ 5:04

On my way out to dinner.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 2, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

If you ever wanted to know how little liberals understand about military power and tactics, read this, and just think, this wanker is proud of itself:

{{{{By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! August 2, 2007 5:43 PM And for those of you who think the f-14 is just a toy, and not a very dangerous weapon, I present for you the F-14 TomCat: (Sync’s “Top Gun” Soundtrack with images) Yeah maybe our planes can take em’ down - depends on the number of attackers versus our defenders of course. But I shure-as-hell wouldn’t want to be in a tank out on the open desert when those F-14’s decided to attack the ground forces in a below radar sneak attack. But then again who said Iran would use them against the USA? There are so many other juicy targets for them to use those better than your (country-x) weaponry in the good ol’ Mid-o’-East.}}}}

The Iranians could launch a hundred F14’s and that’s how many of them would crash and burn just a few miles from their airfield.

AWACS you silly little lib, look it up.

By Ralph

August 2, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Ohhh yeah. Barbara Olson. I recall a few days before 9/11 she was in a minor interview from “MY cottage” somewhere in Michigan. She was xtra insulting and hate-hurling, with that same smug grin that Coulter always gives out. Self assured and very satisfied with her false arrogance and pretense.

Next she’s on the plane with many other souls, headed for the Pentagon. On the phone with her attorney husband, asking, indeed, “What should I TELL the PILOT to do?” Such arrogance. Such insanity. Wonder how long she held on to that superior grin?

Dustmite, you’re especially pitiful today. Your heroic war and personal warrior ways wearing you down, clown?

By Cut and run Kesinger

August 2, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

“Baghdad shook with bombings and political upheaval Wednesday as the largest Sunni Arab bloc quit the government and a suicide attacker blew up his fuel tanker in one of several attacks that claimed 142 lives nationwide.”

Lets spend a trillion while our bridges collapse.

By Paul

August 2, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Barbara Olsen. Like her. Don’t like her. Agree with her or don’t. She was still an innocent slaughtered by jihadists who didn’t give a fig about her politics or personality.

I flat don’t understand this gloating.

By Buy Danish

August 2, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

What do we have here? Shameless freaks sputtering in unison about Barbara Olson.

Will “Ernie” or “Ralph” be banned? I shall not hold my breath.

Over and out.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 2, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Duh- Why is there a moratorium on selling the F-14 parts? Should we care whether there is a moratorium? Should we sell Iran weapons? (Reagan did in a trade for hostages so it can’t be that bad an idea.) It seems to this idiot winger that those are the real questions raised by the sale of the F-14 parts. It seems to my retarded brain that somebody thought it was bad idea. You seem indifferent. Why?

RWNJIFG

By GodHatesTrash

August 2, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Bi Danish, you effing idiot - it was southern Democrats that supported Prohibition, ignoranus. In the 1960s all those losers became Republicans.

Like you.

Stupid inbred uneducated perverted trash votes Republican nowadays, baby, especially in Dicksea.

Trash.

By Dusty

August 2, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

ralph,the lib @6:09

Yes, liberal insanity is “wearing” to the reader. I mean people like you, insulting the dead and other fun games.

Are all your lil’ buddies hanging around today to make more sly comments? I suspect “Ernie” is one of your pack or even Ralphie himself.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

August 2, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

-=-

Military Power? Your obvious not aware of the “Fuzzy Wuzzy Fallacy” or “Lanchester’s Laws”! This is also known as the Bear versus the Wolf-Pack theory.

“The massive “Barbarian Horde” will overwhelm and beat the well armored and heavily armed “Squad of Knights” every time!”

Why — yes I agree - the Boeing E-3 is a great supplement to our air defense systems. It is definitly a great early warning system especially with air to ground radar. But that does not make us immune.

True — our newer air (and missile) tech can take down (more) of the f-14’s, but do not under-estimate that advantage as being an immunity from losses.

Note:” the Tomcat’s powerful AWG-9 (F-14A) pulse-Doppler radar can track up to 6 targets at once. With the AIM-54 and AWG-9 working in tandem, the F-14 Tomcat can shoot down an aircraft without even being seen by the enemy. The AWG-9 is a pulse-Doppler, multi-mode radar with a designed capability to track 24 targets at the same time while simultaneously devising and executing fire control solutions for 6 targets. The cockpit is fitted with a Kaiser AN/AVG-12 Head-Up Display (HUD) co-located with an AN/AVA-12 vertical situation display and a horizontal situation display. A chin mounted Northrop AN/AXX-1 Television Camera Set (TCS) is used for visual target identification at long ranges. Electronic Support Measures (ESM) equipment include the Litton AN/ALR-45 radar warning and control system, the Magnavox AN/ALR-50 radar warning receiver, Tracor AN/ALE-29/-39 chaff/flare dispensers (fitted in the rear fuselage between the fins), and Sanders AN/ALQ-100 deception jamming pod.”

Not a fighter to be taken lightly, even if you do see it coming!..

Oh and how many of us are in the middle-east versus them? — I’d say we are out-numbered there!

Thomas

By Billiam the snowman

August 2, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

They should ban me because I scare the gop.

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Did you know that the term cleavage also describes the buttcrack?

true

‘muff said

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

August 2, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Duh- Why is there a moratorium on selling the F-14 parts? Should we care whether there is a moratorium? Should we sell Iran weapons? (Reagan did in a trade for hostages so it can’t be that bad an idea.) It seems to this idiot winger that those are the real questions raised by the sale of the F-14 parts. It seems to my retarded brain that somebody thought it was bad idea. You seem indifferent. Why?

RWNJIFG

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I sincerely hope you enjoy Messiah…it made me smile (and THINK). It also made me want to sit down and just talk with this reincarnation of Jesus. It made me think that maybe there is hope. Then I finished the book, linked to the DoD website, saw our daily casualty count, logged into the ML blog to read some whacky B.S., and realized we are not likely to come together in what remains of my lifetime.

@@…it was really me…just reverting back to those halcyon days of the early Internet…working 20 hours a day on a start-up…no time to hit the caps key…and I was the oldest dude in the company.

By Hillary's cleavage

August 2, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Butt out, buttcrack.

By N-GA

August 2, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

@@,

Was it you the other day talking about how you loved Spanish guitar?

My passion as well…Andres Segovia, Ottmar Liebert, the Gypsy Kings?

Lived in Spain for 3 years…amazing confluence of Christian and Moorish cultures.

Try to find some old Jose Greco disks. You’ll love it. It’s kind of like listening to the blues in Spanish.

By Analchord

August 2, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

I didn’t mean nothing, sir. Only a point of order. Order must be maintained at all times, or else the terrorists win, sir.

All I’m saying.

By Gonna Love 08

August 2, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG:

You are making sense which means most of the GOP teet suckers wont get what your are saying. Yep the party who claims they can protect us better than anyone:

Sold Iraq and Iran the same Weapons of mass destruction we couldnt find.

In 1983 when we lost 256 marines in a bombing we packed up immediately and fled lebanon.

When confronting Al-queda in Somalia the GOP leaders wanted out pronto.

So yep the GOP sure is good at keeping us safe, unless they are arming our enemies…

By Hillary's cleavage

August 2, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Its mam or mammaries.

Dismissed.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 2, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

{{{{By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika’ Century~! August 2, 2007 6:20 PM With the AIM-54 and AWG-9 working in tandem, the F-14 Tomcat can shoot down an aircraft without even being seen by the enemy.}}}}

I’m going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess: You believe the Matrix really happened, don’t you.

1) The Iranians may have the planes but they don’t have the missiles.

2) Even if they had the missiles they can’t acquire any targets with it, because our F16’s can block their transmissions and the F22 Raptor is invisible to that 1970’s era klunker.

3) Mass attacks would come not in the form of Iranian planes but instead would originate from the decks of the John F Kennedy.

4) Ever wonder why Saddam buried his MIGs in the desert and didn’t launch a single one in either war?

5) Ever wonder why Iran sent human wave attacks at Iraq consisting of 14 year olds (Imans are some serious chickens) and still got slaughtered?

6) Ever wonder why the last American fighter to be shot out of the sky was in 1957? Hahahaha.

7) Israel is even more fierce than we are.

You’re just messing with me, right?

Well, their presidential candidate did just today say he wouldn’t ever use nukes and then scratch that, he would nuke terrorists and then I think they muzzled and sedated him.

Will see what nonsense he has for us tomorrow.

And Hillary, tough talker until she’s trying to woo moonbats, then she’s anti war, that ought to have the Iranians quaking in their boots.

You know, if a democrat does get elected then you might be right.

Duh.

By Robin

August 2, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Born Dead - you don’t get it, do you? Not only are you crude, poop-mouthed, filthy, covered with insects, you don’t comprehend what anyone says here. Lets take Ernie. He tells us his thoughts and description of Olson as a person and reporter. Then he properly places her on the plane in which she dies. You say, “Ernie’s complaining…that she didn’t die.” Huh??? Ernie puts her in her seat on the plane. OK? She is and always was in her own tiny bubble of unreality, never having seen or experienced much of anything in this world, her so-called success purely attributable to her husband’s influence and connections. OK? So there she sits, oblivious to everyone else around her, on the phone with Hubby, somehow imagining in her demented mind (and perhaps his as well) that she has the right or duty or authority to instruct, command, or TELL the pilot of the plane “what to DO.” Her swollen intellect has reached that twisted point due to her limited celebrity and the adoration of such as you. Now, in your weird world, you proudly interpret that mindlessness as “heroically”…let’s do that again…”heroically”…save the plane.” Jeesuss!!!

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 2, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Gonna Love 08 August 2, 2007 6:51 PM When confronting Al-queda in Somalia the GOP leaders wanted out pronto.}}}}

Yeah, it’s too bad we had no balls Clinton as president, well, no balls until he spotted a fat little intern, instead of a man who wouldn’t have caved at the first sign of pressure.

Like we have now.

Duh.

By Duh stands for Democrat

August 2, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Robin August 2, 2007 6:55 PM Her swollen intellect has reached that twisted point due to her limited celebrity and the adoration of such as you.}}}}

Here’s the basic difference between Conservatives and liberals, in a nutshell:

I pray that you, Robin, never have to face what Barbara Olsen faced that day, coming to realize that she would soon be dead.

I, for one, probably wouldn’t have been thinking very clearly either.

By GodHatesTrash

August 2, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

The silver lining in the 9/11 cloud? 19 criminals and at least one other totally worthless human being died that day.

Barbara Olsen.

Trash.

By RW-(the original)

August 2, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this

Isn’t Huge/Amvet the guy that is always demanding the condemnation of any speech he deems inappropriate? I guess he agrees with all this absurd trashing of a fellow citizen that brutally murdered at the hands of Islamic radicals.

What about it Blowhard?

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