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By Anonymous
July 31, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
I’d prefer for him to get 42 human years, or more.
By Ken
July 31, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
If he is guilty, does it really matter? In some cultures, dogs are raised for food. If you think about it, he is doing us a favor. No more strays. Now if he could something with the cats in my neighborhood.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Chris Hanson of Dateline is doing an ambush interview-style special to nab dogfighting creeps…..”Excuse me sir, what are you doing here?”
“I’m just here to walk a friend’s dog, that’s all”
“What are those? Scooby Snacks? What were you planning on doing with Scooby Snacks?”
“Nothing, just walk the dog and stuff”
“Sir, we have your internet chatroom transcript right here, you were teasing and flaming this dog trying to upset it and make it angry and viscious”
“No, it was a joke, you know, I didn’t even really believe it was a dog on the other end of the chatroom”.
“Sir, you’ve got a pooper scooper, Scooby Snacks, and a taser, what am I to think?”
“No, really, I’m just here to walk a friends dog, what?”
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 31, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
I suspect he needs a good worming.
By Duh stands for Democrats
July 31, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Does this not answer a lot of questions you had about democrats?:
One of the great lies of our time is that the modern media is a purveyor of valuable information…..And I believe it is a deeply harmful pathology. It cannot be good for us to have a constant stream of pain and disaster flowing into our heads. It must affect who we are and what we think. It resets our sense of the acceptable. It anesthetizes our urge to necessary outrage. It amplifies the glamour of evil. And it just bums folks out in general. As a very wise man has observed before, the news has become nothing so much as a pornography of the freakish — a glamorized, exaggerated, and neatly packaged daily freak show designed to titillate one of our more inherent and reliable (from a marketing standpoint) inner urges.
Not only that but how much good news do you ever see the media talk about?
And then they take polls about the “direction the country is heading” after laying the worst news possible on you 24/7 and then they blame government for the “problems?”
Playing us for fools.
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{{{{{It is hard to comprehend the fact that there are people in the United States Congress who are so addicted to power they actually want America to lose the war in Iraq in order to obtain it. Yet that is exactly what is happening with Democrats running the show. They couch their cowardice in high-minded lies about supporting the troops but not the mission, but the truth is much less complicated. They cannot stand the idea that “George Bush’s war,” as Hillary Clinton likes to call it, might actually succeed.}}}}
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{{{{{That’s to say the more that the Democrats in the Congress lead the push for an early withdrawal, the more Iraqi political leaders, particularly the Shiite political leaders, but the Sunnis as well, and the Kurds, are inclined to think that this is going to be settled, eventually, in an outright civil war, in consequence of which they are very, very unlikely or reluctant, at present, to make major concessions. They’re much more inclined to kind of hunker down. So in effect, the threats from Washington about a withdrawal, which we might have hoped would have brought about greater political cooperation in face of the threat that would ensue from that to the entire political establishment here, has had, as best we can gauge it, much more the opposite effect, of an
By Buy Danish
July 31, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Look at how raging Moonbats respond to Chief Justice Roberts’ siezure. I’ve “pondered” these comments and concluded that they are written by despicable crackpots. The only thing that’s missing is an attempt to blame it on Global Warming.
hubman wrote on July 31, 2007 8:42 AM:”This is what happens when you are a closeted gay man, posing as a married family man, who poses as a moderate, but is really a far-right-wing nut-job. Your brain finally locks up from cognitive dissonance “
{{AnahadWolves wrote on July 31, 2007 7:35 AM:”Chief Justice Roberts was, reportedly “foaming at the mouth” as if that was some kind of indicator of a disease or defect, correct? Funny…most far-Right republicans I know generally foam at the mouth; are they diseased or defective? I won’t answer that one…”}}
{{acnelsonCA wrote on July 30, 2007 11:32 PM:”Seizing? Frothing? OMG!!! Out, out, evil spirits!”}}
{{somecallmechief wrote on July 30, 2007 10:17 PM:”One can only hope that at the very least this prevents his return to the Supreme Court, or failing that that the fall knocked some sense into him. That’s probably too optimistic.”}}
And the Rachel Carson award goes to:
{{{…Angel1 wrote on July 31, 2007 1:35 AM: Since this is summer and mosquitos are fairly abundant was there a recent application of a pesticide? If so, it would not be unusual for a pesticide to cause a neurological event that can not be detected on a neuro workup/eval. Since pesticides are RARELY fully tested until they are out for purchase, then the buying public becomes the human testing that is not allowed during their approval process. Only after numerous complaints is the product really evaluated as to it’s effects upon human health. Pesticides are made to act upon the CNS and Roberts “event” was CNS related. Again, I have to ask, is our Chief Justice a victim of pesticide poisoning? If so, maybe he will not side with corporations when issues like this come before him and he will remember what happened to him. Just something to ponder….. “}}}
By Chris Hansen
July 31, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Analchord,
Your assessment is correct. As soon as we’re finished with our investigation of “getalife”, we will commence our dogfighting investigation.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
Vicko!
By SarahConnah
July 31, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
I see by some of the media coverage that this about to turn into a race card event: “We’um’s again’ dem’un’s.”
Considering the collection of Vick supporters I viewed in yesterday’s media coverage, it appears they haven’t had much to cheer about since OJ was released.
Curtsie!
By Curious Observer
July 31, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Well, I suppose the Falcons will be mediocre again this year, but I’m betting that some federal prison will have the best football team in history.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Federal agents raid Sen. Ted Stevens’ Girdwood home
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
the administration is asking Congress to once again raise the debt limit
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
[The Bush administration’s plan to sell $20 billion in advanced weaponry to Saudi Arabia and five other Persian Gulf countries is running into congressional opposition and criticism from human rights and arms control groups.
Members of Congress vowed yesterday to oppose any deal to Saudi Arabia on grounds that the kingdom has been unhelpful in Iraq and unreliable at fighting terrorism. King Abdullah has called the U.S. military presence in Iraq an “illegitimate occupation,” and the Saudis have been either unable or unwilling to stop suicide bombers who have ended up in Iraq, congressional sources say.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/28/AR2007072801172.html)
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
Outsourcing Intelligence: How Bush Gets His National Intelligence from Private Companies
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Vick is having a one man showing of his artwork, “Dog’s biting each other” on Velvet.
China announced it’s new spokesman for it’s “Mao Chow” brand of Dogfood: Vick!
By The Presence of Doom
July 31, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Falcons will be better than mediocre. They have a talented receiving corps who, in the past, were not able to catch up to Vick’s overly fast strikes. Now, they have an actual Quarterback throwing them the ball.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, How would you react if Bill Clinton had a seizure?
By Buy Danish
July 31, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
You know, I tend to agree that we should be very wary of giving money to the Saudis since they are “unhelpful in Iraq and unreliable at fighting terrorism”.
Indeed, I’d take it a step further and stop funding all Democrat legislative proposals while we’re at it. Bush should just veto every danged one of them.
By Buy Danish
July 31, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Ah, I see that you think it is perfectly normal for Moonbats to not only think, but publish derogatory comments seething with ill will.
I bet you think you and your comrades are just the sweetest people on God’s green Earth.
By N-GA
July 31, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
C’mon, In the News. You are failing to look at the upside of having Congress raise the debt limit.
The administration wants to keep employment high, so they continue to hire laborers to operate the printing presses. Gotta keep printing those dollars.
raise debt limit = more dollars more dollars = dollar devaluation dollar devaluation = more exports more exports = more workers needed more workers = more taxes collected more taxes collected = no debt limit increase
At least that is what they want you to believe…..
By Bill OReilly
July 31, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
O’REILLY: You know, if I’m the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium, and I say, “Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you’re not going to get another nickel in federal funds. Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead.
And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. We’re going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.
By Glenn Beck
July 31, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Al Gore’s not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however. The goal is different. The goal is globalization. The goal is global carbon tax. The goal is the United Nations running the world. That is the goal. Back in the 1930s, the goal was get rid of all of the Jews and have one global government.” He continued: “You got to have an enemy to fight. And when you have an enemy to fight, then you can unite the entire world behind you, and you seize power. That was Hitler’s plan. His enemy: the Jew. Al Gore’s enemy, the U.N.’s enemy: global warming.” Beck added: “Then you get the scientists — eugenics. You get the scientists — global warming. Then you have to discredit the scientists who say, ‘That’s not right.’ And you must silence all dissenting voices. That’s what Hitler did.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Falcons were a .500 team with Vick, and they’ll be a .500 team without Vick.
Like Mohammed Ali, we make Supermen out of mediocrities because we want to believe in Supermen. We want to attach our egos to someone who we can point to and say, “That’s the best there is, and anyone who disagrees is inferior to me, thus I too am a Superman!”
And those Alpha Males think that everyone in earshot is admiring them for being so vociferous as they exclaim their opinions. (the truth is people are saying, “look at that horse’s patoot”).
People need heroes. People need gods. But mostly, people need jackazzes to ridicule.
By @@
July 31, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Maybe it’s the dog day “afternoons” that Michael should be more concerned about.
Angel 1’s post from Danish’s research is out there man. I was reading about this conspiracy in the Herald Tribune.
The latest Iraqi conspiracy theory: Killer British badgers
(((Simmer in the 120-degree Fahrenheit (49-Celsius) temperatures of summer and sprinkle with provincial Iraqi newspapers eager to fill newsprint gaps left by vacationing government officials.)))
If the heat doesn’t fry your brain, the media will gladly pick up the slack.
THEY CAME UP FROM THE MARSH…dum dum dum dumb.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
No, Buy Danish, I don’t. I think it’s pretty despicable (?sp) to make fun of a man whose had a seizure.
But, don’t you think you’d be just a little giddy if Bill fell over and started foaming at the mouth?
You are like Dusty, you make automatic and usually wrong assumptions about people. Why shouldn’t I think it is alright for moonbats to think? Do you think that all liberals are just foaming at the mouth idiots whose thinking processes are somehow inferior to you and your ilk? That we are somehow sub-human to your kind? Do you think we even deserve to be represented in the government?
By AmVet
July 31, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
{Not only that but how much good news do you ever see the media talk about?
And then they take polls about the “direction the country is heading” after laying the worst news possible on you 24/7 and then they blame government for the “problems?”}
That is a great point, Andy. But I have one major correction.
I read a book back in the 80’s, I believe it may have been Future Shock, which addressed this issue of the incredibly negative aspects of the news, especially local news.
Murder, mayhem, etc… And almost nothing but.
And though I don’t prefer to live in blissful ignorance, I made a conscious decision to tune out most of this. Particularly the most salacious and wantonly violent “news”.
But it seems as if American society did the very opposite. Based on ratings, and the drivel that passes for TV now, it looks like they can’t get enough of this stuff!
However, I do believe that one of the primary roles of a free press is to keep a very close watch on our government and to expose corruption, etc, wherever and whenever it happens.
Otherwise, and without that free press, you have what we in the Midwest used to refer to as, the foxes guarding the hen house.
So blame the public, not the media for the fact that this is what passes for news and entertainment.
BTW, there is plenty of good news out there, it is just harder to find.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
Sicko Vicko!
Hey, I just renamed Michael Vick!
By The Presence of Doom
July 31, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
People need “heroes” in order to feel good about themselves. They project what they wish they were or wish they had onto others as a way of fantasy. We use politics the same way. Choosing a political party is no different than choosing your favorite team. We overkill every thing our “team” does that we like and downplay what we don’t like. Also, the other team can’t do anything right, unless it suits our purposes.
Saying “the republicans or democrats are what’s best for this country” gives the false impression of being right about something, thus the presence “experts” on these blogs.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
AmVet, Do you remember that show that used to come on Sunday mornings, I think it was called “Good News” and believe it or not it wasn’t some weird religious show. I think, maybe, Charles Kuralt did it, I really don’t remember the details, but I remember I loved that show.
By @@
July 31, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
Who has been educating the people who absorb what the media puts out there?
Education—An experiment in social science. Dum dum dum dumb.
By mm
July 31, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
I see we’ve gotten our daily dose of stupidity from Buy Danish and Duh.
Liberal media? Please! Fox news is liberal?
Bush already vetoes anything that makes it past the wingnut blockade.
By RCH
July 31, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
I heard the president of the Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP saying we should not rush to judgement on M.V.. Strange, I didn’t hear that about the Duke 3. Lets face it, M.V. will never play for the Falcons again. Give it up.
By Buy Danish
July 31, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Au contraire, the very fact that your first, instinctive reaction was to ask me that idiotic question about Bill Clinton - which leads me to reasonably conclude that you accept these tactics as a normal reaction.
If you’re wondering why I say the question is “idiotic” it is because it is based entirely on a hypothetical situation and as such it is impossible to predict with certainty how someone would react.
I can guarantee you that I would not be so unhinged as to print a tasteless, celebratory comment, and indeed when bad things happen to Democrats I have never, ever wished them ill will, nor have any of my conservative colleagues.
The proof is in the archives.
Over and out until Happy Hour - maybe…
By Bush's Colon Polyps
July 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
The identities of Bush’s five recently removed colon polyps have been discovered:
Andi/e Bi Danish RW @@ Dusty
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
If I may interject here for a second I see that you have quite a propensity for claiming that others quickly jump to wrongful assumptions. The odd part is that quite often you make those accusations in a post where you yourself are jumping to assumptions about others.
You did it to me yesterday and you were wrong and you’re doing it today with Buy Danish. I know her well enough to know that you are 180 degrees off base again as she would never gloat over human suffering.
Here’s a project for you. It wasn’t that long ago that Bill Clinton was in the hospital with a very serious heart condition. Since there are millions of blogs with archives why don’t you bring us some examples of mainstream conservative publications allowing all the cheerleading comments over his potential demise?
By mm
July 31, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Vick will get a lighter sentence by selling out other dogfighters across the country (if he has the guts).
Based on his comments yesterday on radio, I would suggest he has already been offered a plea deal.
By AmVet
July 31, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Yes, Bosch, I do remember that show. Vaguely. Sometimes I was bit fuzzy after Saturday night! If its the one I’m thinking of, it was very soothing and usually ended with great photo’s of snow-covered creeks and other beautiful outdoor shots!
@@, I’m not sure I understand your 9:57. Are you suggesting coconuts migrate? (Sorry, my penchant for Monty Python slipped in there!)
I am interested in your take on this. How does a child’s education predispose him or her to enjoying the garbage that is on TV, or the news for that matter?
It seems to me that the least educated would be the target market for this stuff and maybe that’s your point.
Expound, please! Inquiring minds want to know! (get it?)
BTW, loved that dumb dum dum dumb DUMB!!!
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Vick will play in the Arena League.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
RW/Buy Danish, Your distaste and loathing for anything “liberal” is well known.
By RCH
July 31, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
Analchord
If convicted ,M.V. will not be able to get a scrimmage game on a sandlot.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
Duh, given that Democrats make up 40% of the populace but about 70% are cowards I think your quote understates the problem and should read:
“It is hard to comprehend the fact that 70% of the people in the United States actually want America to lose the war in Iraq. Yet that is exactly what is happening with 70% of the American people. They couch their cowardice in high-minded lies about supporting the troops but not the mission, but the truth is much less complicated. They cannot stand the idea that “George Bush’s war,” as Hillary Clinton likes to call it, might actually succeed.”
It is unfortunate that the American people are such wimpy, traitorous, cowards, but you have to call them like you see them. You can’t just put the blame on Democrats when they barely make up half of the total number of traitors. The problem is much greater than just them. The problem is throughout the American populace and seems to be most severe in those people who think rather than obey, as they should. We as wingers must realize that we have a long way to go before we will establish that totalitarian state where people shut up and do what they are told instead of coming up with opinions that differ from Our Dear Leader. We either have to create much more fear so that safety can only be had by giving the Government the power to eliminate dissent or we have to change the dynamics by eliminating much of that 70% with extreme prejudice. If there are around 70 million real Americans out there but 230 million traitors that means that we will have to kill about 160 milion just to break even. I know its a dirty job, but its for the country so I say let’s get started.
RWNJIFG
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institute appeared on “Hardball” Monday to defend his propaganda piece OpEd, “A War We Just Might Win” which appeared in Monday’s New York Times. O’Hanlon and the co-author of the article, Kenneth Pollack, have been falsely labeled by much of the media as being critical of the war in Iraq, when in fact they have been two of the biggest cheerleaders for the invasion and occupation from the beginning — and like most Bushies they have been wrong about almost everything. The OpEd, which contradicts O’Hanlon’s own research, while acknowledging that the political process has seen little success, uses cherry picked data to give the false impression that there is real progress being made militarily.
By Midori
July 31, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
not only is it pretty stupid to try to make an ENTIRE GROUP responsible for what a few people write/comment, it’s pretty hypocritical as well.
What do you expect from lying lunatics?
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Loathing liberal policies and wishing ill upon fellow humans for holding opposing views are two very different things. Sorry you don’t understand that. I wish there was at least some degree of intellect among the liberals on this blog.
By AmVet
July 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/30/lawmaker.raid/index.html?iref=newssearch
Yet another major figure in Washington, Sen. Stevens of Alaska, may go down for corruption.
I know that this has been part and parcel of our government for a long time, at least 150 years.
So, is it my imagination or is this becoming an epidemic?
It appears to me that the numbers are just too big for some of the weakest to walk away from now.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Vick’s attorney looks like an ambulance chaser to me.
By Nate
July 31, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
This article show why you shouldn’t cast judgemental stones before cleaning out your own skeletons… Hypocrisy at it’s best..
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm?id=203
By getalife
July 31, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
RW,
There is plenty of intellect on this blog, intellectual honesty, not much from your side and from the “liberal media”.
The story about the “dry runs” was total bs
Corporate media playing the fear card for w.
Geez.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Bosch says, “RW/Buy Danish, Your distaste and loathing for anything “liberal” is well known.”
Look at Wikipedia’s definition of liberalism:
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. A liberal society is characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy, free private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected.[2] In the 21st century, this usually means liberal democracy with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[3]”
Have you ever read something so disgusting? Individual rights? Fair elections? Freedom of thought? These ideas are perverse and repulsive.
I also hate the City of Liberal, Kansas.
RWNJIFG
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
If Vick gets out on bail, do you think he’ll flea jurisdiction?
His attourney better be man’s best friend-of-the-court, and not an ambulance chaser, eh?
If convicted on all counts, Vick’s sentences should run consecutively, because one good term deserves another.
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Left wing lunatic in full glory,
Name one left wing politician that holds those wiki defined views.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Hillary Clinton.
By The Watcher
July 31, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Al Gore
By Seeker
July 31, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Obama
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
getalife,
The last time Hillary Clinton had a chance to set national policy she wanted to criminalize the use of a private physician. Try again.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
BP gets OK to dump mercury into Lake Michigan
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Barack Obama.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
John Edwards.
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
RW-(the obfuscator)…a challenge for you.
Please provide your proof that Hillary ‘wanted to criminalize the use of a private physician.’
Thanks in advance…
By Tom Dundee
July 31, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
AnalChord,
… ambulance chasing attorney … ?
Are you making fun of John Edwards?
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Bill Clinton.
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Left wing lunatic in full glory,
You certainly have a lot of impersonators. If anybody thinks Al Gore is all about individual freedoms they’re insane and anybody that thinks they have a clue what Obama is for or against is naive at best. The man has done zilch in his career so far, but he is a smooth talker so I guess that’s good enough for moonbat(ics)®.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Destroying The GOP’s Congressional Approval-Rating Spin
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
Joe Biden.
By steve-o
July 31, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
“The last time Hillary Clinton had a chance to set national policy she wanted to criminalize the use of a private physician.”
getalife,
Translated from wingnut speak, the above means that she advocated “universal health coverage.” I don’t believe that criminalizing certain aspects of an occupation was involved with her agenda at the time.
By From Lies To BS in under 60 Seconds
July 31, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
The last time Hillary Clinton had a chance to set national policy she wanted to criminalize the use of a private physician.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
RW- I’ve never seen a liberal not be a liberal. I’ve seen good American Conservatives openly question these liberal theologies:
Individual rights: Not in a post-9/11 world; warrantless wiretaps
Equality of opportunity: If there is institutional racism any adjustment to protect against it is reverse discrimination.
Freedom of thought: traitor!
Limitations on Power: The president can declare any person, citizen or otherwise, and hold him without charge indefinately and with no access to the courts.
The rule of law: Nixon, warrantless wiretaps, leaking classified material for political purposes, firing USA for political purposes, not hiring prosecutors who don’t agree with your politics, claiming executive priviledge on everything (9/11 commision, attorney firings, warrantless wiretaps)
Market economy: No bid contracts; Halliburton
free private enterprise: Corporate welfare
transparency of government: Is it necessary to comment?
Open and fair elections: paperless voting machines produced by Diebold which donates to the GOP.
As you can see Conservatives are not at all liberal and that is why I love them.
RWNJIFG
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
Dennis Kucinich.
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
LHU,
Look up Hillary care. Why is it you always demand back up from everyone else but never back a thing you say?
Here’s a start for you
Lots and lots of external links.
By WHAT A GREAT ANSWER!
July 31, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
NO FACTS
JUST CRAP
“”You certainly have a lot of impersonators. If anybody thinks Al Gore is all about individual freedoms they’re insane and anybody that thinks they have a clue what Obama is for or against is naive at best.”“
You’d think after a month of “rest” he could do better that a cheap imitation of a dusty-post!
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
steve-o,
Too bad they did not listen to her.
Of course, they never do unless there is profit in it.
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
Sorry RW-(the obfuscator)…you lose (again).
Could not find anything in your link that provides any proof that Hillary ‘wanted to criminalize the use of a private physician.’
Did you lie (again)?
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
left wing lunatic,
This is only the second time that the Bush administration has claimed executive privilege and the first time was in December of 2001 to keep Clinton dealings out of the Congress.
WAGA,
Please tell us all the great legislative accomplishments of Senator Obama.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Told ya, no intellectual honesty.
This is a no lie zone, if you will RW.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
RW,
Health care is a classic case where liberals and conservatives differ. To a liberal being healthy and getting equal access to health care is a “right.” To a conservative, its a priviledge for those who can afford it.
That’s why we are against Medicare for old people and against Medicaid for poor people. They should have gotten some money before they got sick, right? Liberals think that the rich, who have gained there wealth in part on the labor of the poor and whose wealth is protected by poor and middle class kids in the military ought to pay their hard earned cash to the Government to help take care of those poor b*******. I say that if you can’t produce an insurance card, a credit card with a huge limit or cold hard cash, the hospitals ought to throw you in the street before giving you something free that I have to then pay for. Liberals suck!
RWNJIFG
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Without Vick, at least we wont have to suffer through any more flea flicker plays.
By Tom Dundee
July 31, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Hillary & Bubba locked up the records of her committee for national health care tighter than Cheney locked up his Energy Policy Committe meetings.
One of the main objections to Hillary care was her national ID card than everyone would have needed to receive heath care. These cards would have contained everything that there is to know about you. The doctors would not have been able to access all the info, but the govt could.
A secondary objection to Hillary care was that it does not work. Well it works if your condition allows you to wait months to see a doctor.
There is an 108 year of woman in England that has to wait 18 months for a new hearing aid. I realize that this is an extreme, … but is it still necessary for anyone needing a hearing aid to wait that long?
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
The Roberts seizure is total bs.
A good doctor will never let you out of the hospital until they find the cause of the seizure.
He fell down drunk like w.
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
RW-(the obfuscator),
After you have offered some proof (or apologized) for accusing Hillary of ‘wanting to criminalize the use of a private physician…’
I have another task for you my little gopher…
Please provide me with some of George W. Bush’s accomplishments prior to becoming our President.
Thanks in advance (again).
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
RW, If you’ll go back and look at my original question to Buy Danish this morning, I was not making assumptions, I was simply asking a question.
Buy Danish’s response “Ah, I see that you think it is perfectly normal for Moonbats to not only think, but publish derogatory comments seething with ill will.
I bet you think you and your comrades are just the sweetest people on God’s green Earth.”
She was originally making the assumptions, and the wrong assumption at that.
And I can conclude with reasonabe certainty based on her vile and cynical posts to liberals here on this blog that she would giggle her a* off, maybe not be so stupid as to write it here so as to be documented, but certainly in her heart, if the same had happened to Bill Clinton.
If I’m wrong, then so be it, but don’t pretend to be some sanctimonious, defender of all things good RW.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Tom,
Have you seen where we are ranked in health care?
England is way ahead of us.
The gop stay the course is not a solution.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
RW- You are wrong again. These are two other times that executive privilege was invoked:
1) Bush invoked executive privilege in refusing to disclose the details of Vice President Dick Cheney’s meetings with energy executives.
2) “Rice’s public testimony almost didn’t happen at all. For months, the Bush administration argued with the 9/11 commission over how or whether she would testify. Rice spoke to the panel in February, privately and not under oath.
The president initially said Rice would not testify publicly because it would violate executive privilege — the rule that says the president’s aides do not have to testify about private conversations with the president.”
So Bush used it so that we wouldn’t have this “liberal” transparency of Government so Cheney could serve our interets with respect to the oil industry without cluttering our minds with what that might have been. Of course, I trust that he did the right thing and that I’m better off not knowing what that might be.
He also used it for awhile to keep Condi from going up to the 9/11 commission and testifying about all of the efforts that the administration did to disrupt Al Qaeda before 9/11. You will recall that those efforts were broad based and intense and were consistent with the seriousness of the threat.
RWNJIFG
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Vicko!
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Hell, LHU, can anyone provide any accomplishments of Dubya AFTER he became our President?
By Musty
July 31, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Just another day here on the blog.
Duh comes out of the gates fast and furious, telling us that information is bad for us. What a great point! Look what it has done for him!
Buy Danish pops in, making sure we know she is a monk in the cult of Bill O’Reily. She supports the completely false concept that what is posted by some odd blogger on the largest political sight on the planet is exactly what the entire site stands for. Wow! Now there’s an example of no intellect!
Back fresh from rehab, RW has lost none of his ability to twist words and meanings as if he were reading it diect from a playbook. However, this blog and the nation have shifted during his commitment - he’s been left behind.
It’s just the same old/same old every day. As the 25% morphs into the 20% they are going to keep on posting the same old tripe.
Libs are evil! Libs hate everybody!
Can they be any more annoying?
Now, I’m off to the pool. I like to pick the dead frogs out of the filter and bite the heads off!
By Typical Georgia Redneck
July 31, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
Bush - another Mike Vick, but without any talent…
from the psychiatrist that wrote Bush on the Couch
The Assessment of Dr. Frank:
*If a patient came into my consulting room missing an arm, the first question I would ask is, “What happened to your arm?” The same would be true for a patient who has no guilt, no conscience. I would want to know what happened to it.
No Conscience
George W. Bush is without conscience, and it would require a lengthy series of clinical sessions to find out what happened to it. By identifying himself as all good and on the side of right, he has been able to vanquish any guilt, any sense of doing wrong.
In Bush on the Couch I gave examples illustrating that remarkable lack of conscience. From his youthful days blowing up frogs with firecrackers to his unapologetic public endorsement of torture, there has been no change. Observers are gradually becoming aware of this fundamental deficit. For example, after watching the president’s press conference on July 12, Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan wrote, “He doesn’t seem to be suffering, which is jarring. Presidents in great enterprises that are going badly suffer: Lincoln, LBJ with his head in his hands. Why doesn’t Mr. Bush?”
No Shame
George W. Bush seems also to be without shame. He expresses no regret or embarrassment about his failure to help Katrina victims, or to tell the truth. He says whatever he thinks people want to hear, whether it be “stay the course” or “I’ve never been about ‘stay the course.’” He does whatever he wants.
He lies — not just to us, but to himself as well. What makes lying so easy for Bush is his contempt — for language, for law, and for anybody who dares question him. That he could say so baldly that he’d never been about “stay the course” is bone chilling. So his words mean nothing. That is very important for people to understand.*
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
Liberals Go After Fox News Advertisers
HAVE YOU JOINED YET?
By getalife
July 31, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
w uses “executive privilege” to cut and run from accountabilty. A coward, pure and simple.
The proof of this blatant cowardice is the Tillman murder.
By Tom Dundee
July 31, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
Glen Beck (or whomever),
Hitler is an overused term to deride your oppoonent. The people quickest to call their opponent Hitler/Nazi are Communists, mainly to take the focus of themselves. Hitler was insane, however, he was not crazy enough to start WWII on 2 fronts. Enter Uncle Joe Stalin, as FDR called him. Hitler & Stalin signed a treaty dividing Europe between them. Hitler attacked neutral Poland from the west and Uncle Joe attacked neutral Poland from the East and neutral Finland.
Communistism forms the left half of Hell & Nazism/Fascism forms the Right half of Hell.
Hitler killed (silenced) 6-9 million Germans in his rise to power. Stalin is given credit for 25 million Russians during his reign. All told the Soviet Communists killed over 100 million people in 70 years Hitler is credited with 50 million dead, but I don’t know how to factor in those that died only because of Stalin.
Hitler killed 5000 people as a result of the bomb plot to kill him. There were only 84 people in that plot. He rounded up anyone who he thought might have p** him off that he hadn’t already killed.
That is silencing your opposition.
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Well Bosch, I was trying to make a subtle point (which I am sure the narrowminded did not understand) about the hypocrisy of RW-(the obfuscator’s) concern about Obama’s resume.
His concern seems hypocritical (and therefore consistent with his normal MO) given that a fair analysis of Obama’s and Bush’s accomplishments (prior to becoming President) would cast Obama in a favorable light.
Oh well, this sort of specious hypocrisy is not much of a surprise…
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Left wing lunatic,
Arguing over the arrangements or jurisdiction is not invoking executive privilege per se.
Bosch,
You are wrong about Buy Danish and I’ve seen the way you operate here. All your questions are based on preconceived assumptions. Try opening your mind a little.
LHU,
More interesting info on Hillarycare
Do you want to read the entire 1,342 page document?
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
What is the mission of the Saudi Puppet Army (SPA) in Iraq?
Hint: The Saudis think they’re running out of oil. (true fact, no lie, horse’s mouth stuff here folks, you can trust me on this one, wouldn’t sheetja, you’re my favorite blurds)
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
Correct me if I’m wrong. Wasn’t George W. Bush the Governor of a very large state prior to being elected President?
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
W was the Saudi Puppet Governor once.
Cartoon idea: W as Pinochio. The twist is that his ears grow when he lies.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
RW says - “Arguing over the arrangements or jurisdiction is not invoking executive privilege per se.”
Regardless of the terminology the result was the Bush Administration insisting on a non-transparent Government which is antithetical to liberalism, but consistent with conservatism. As someone pointed out, the executive has also insisted on not talking about Tillman. I’m glad that they are keeping their mouths shut about that as well. What’s the good of being president if you can’t misrepresent the facts surrounding the death of a soldier for political purposes and not be able to keep that effort covered up?
RWNJIFG
By Duh stands for Democrat
July 31, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
{{{{{By AmVet July 31, 2007 9:48 AM So blame the public, not the media for the fact that this is what passes for news and entertainment.}}}}}}
I agree that the public deserves some of the blame for this phenomena, after all the media is selling a product, but I don’t think we should declare them free from any fault.
There seems to be a race to the bottom going on in our culture, and while I’m not exactly a prude, I don’t think that the health of our society is benefiting from this in any way, shape or form.
We all have a responsibility to ensure that our children and their future and the future of this great nation is not plunged into an all out pursuit of depravity, a nation seeking the lowest it can possibly go for the sake of our entertainment, without moderation.
I’m pretty sure that is why Rome is no longer an empire.
Plus I’d bet we’d all be alot happier.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
RW, And I’ve seen the way you operate on this site as well, not only do you operate on pre-conceived assumptions, you also stoop so low as to try to mess with people’s personal lives.
You also twist words better than any politician I have ever seen. So why don’t you run for office? You seem such a natural: you never admit to being wrong, you are a premium spin doctor, and you have the perfect and absolute solution to all problems without any input from other sources.
So again, don’t sit there and try to be the sanctimonous defender of all things good and right.
By BigWhoop
July 31, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
More interesting info on Hillarycare
and not a word about
criminalization….
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
No, RW-(the obfuscator).
I want you to provide some proof that Hillary ‘wanted to criminalize the use of private physicians.’
Or apologize for lying…
BTW: Obama was a state Senator in Indiana for 8 years. Prior to that he was a civil rights lawyer and taught constitutional law. In 2004, he became the third African American since Reconstruction to be elected to the U.S. Senate.
I’d tip the hat to Obama so far.
Got anything else on GWB prior to becoming Prez?
By Midori
July 31, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
this is all you need to know about Bush being “elected”
By Tom Dundee
July 31, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
smallNutJob, RW
The 9-11 Commission was a joke. A cruel bi-partisan joke. It’s main purpose was to promote themselves and a second purpose was to protect Clinton and cast blame where it could. The third purpose was to protect the establishment dating back to whenever the Dems & Repubs in all levels of govt started missing the signals that the terrs were after Americans. There was no real effort made to protect Bush. After-all it happened on his watch. Yes, he was president on 9-11-2007. Clinton did not respond to several terrorist attacks, starting in Feb ‘93 with WTC I and ending with the USS Cole. The Church Commission escaped any scrutiny for their role in our diminished intelligence capacity, as did every subsequent action to further reduce our intelligence gathering ability. One fact that the 9-11 Commission never addressed was the real culprits of 9-11, Islamic terrorists seeking to dominate the world.
Bush could have been more effective, but he had to fight the Dems all the way, in addition to overcoming his inborn problems.
My first complaint about Bush’s leadership came on Sept 18, 2007 during the National Memorial Servive for the 9-11 victims. Bush said, “ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE & TOLERANCE.”
… and I’m thinking, “Are you as dumb as the Dems think that you. Peace & Tolerance came at the point of a sword and Islam was spread by fire & sword.”
‘Infinite Justice’ was the initial code name for the invasion of Afghanistan. A Bush hater in the Pentagon leaked that info. The Mohammadans screamed blasphemy, “Only Allah can promise infinite justice”. Bush should have said, “Just watch this.”
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Point of order. WW2 started when Heetler occupied Poland. WW2 ended when Russia occupied Poland.
Surely, something else was transpiring. I think I know. Heetler unt Stalin were Saudi Puppet Autocrats, (SPA).
Word.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
On the Record: Twelve questions the national media should ask Governor Bush
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
Below is a list of articles by title detailing information about the Bush’s record while Governor of Texas, including one about his DUI arrest, which we felt should also be included here. The newest ones are added at the bottom.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
Wow, I agree with Duh (12:16). Reality TV shows are the perfect example.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Tom,
w spewed this on the rubble of 9/11:
“President Bush: I can here you! I can here you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!”
They are still free and planning their next attack because w cut and run to occupy Iraq.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Tom Dundee,
Some people have suggested that Bush could have responded to the Cole attack since it happened 6 weeks before he was elected and the CIA and FBI did not attribute the attack to Bin Laden until a week before his inauguration.
Please explain to those people why Bush did the right thing by the country and by those 17 dead sailors by doing absolutely nothing.
I basically rely on Bush’s inherent infallibility for not questioning his policy of doing absolutely nothing mainly because I can’t think of one articulable reason that doing nothing makes sense. Is there anything you can add?
RWNJIFG
By The Watcher
July 31, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
I don’t think Duh at 12:16 is really Duh….
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I guess when you have nothing left to contribute you can always resort to personal attacks. Too bad you don’t have more to offer.
LHU,
The Hillarycare proposal was mandatory government health care with no opt out provision kind of like Socialist Security. What part of this is giving you such a hard time?
By RW StillA Big Dummy
July 31, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
The Hillarycare proposal was mandatory government health care with no opt out provision kind of like Socialist Security. What part of this is giving you such a hard time?
The part where there is no criminalization
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
RW-(the obfuscator),
Ummm, the part about Hillary ‘wanting to criminalize the use of private physicians…’
You know…the part where you told a blatant lie…
Nice attempt at a cop out though…
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
Al Queda in Iraq is an oxymoron. Cheney estimated the enemy in Iraq was only 2% of the population. that’s over half a million Iraqis. The # of Al Queda in Iraq is a few dozens to a few hundred, and they are not Bin Laden’s Al Queda, they are ID-jackers who are selling Pepsi, but calling it Coke. (the point being that it’s all ideological cola)
What is the mission of the Saudi Puppet Army (SPA) in Iraq?
Hint: The Saudi’s paid for geological surveys about how much oil they have left, and guess what? It’s gone.
What could they possibly want in Iraq? Cant think of anything. Nothing comes to mind. I dont know, could it be……………OIL??????
How many people here think that W has given defacto control of our foreign policy decisions to the Saudi Royal Family?
Show of paws….
By GodHatesTrash
July 31, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
Hey Tom Dumbdee, welcome to the blog, girlfriend.
Trash. Just like your mother.
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
When the law is that you have to get health care from the government, with NO EXCEPTIONS, it is really that hard for you clowns to figure out that it’s a criminal act to violate the law and get your own private health care?
Geez what a bunch of dunces. No wonder you all work for the government.
Since I don’t work for the government I’ll be leaving now. See you all at happy hour.
By Jesus
July 31, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Midori
July 31, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
remember Mike Stark at Calling All Wingnuts? you’re gonna love this :)
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
RW, Boo hoo. I can at least admit when I am wrong, can you?
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
I didn’t mean to give anyone pause….
By getalife
July 31, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Midori,
I just posted a comment over there.
Mike has spine.
Great stuff but Paul will be outraged.
Bwa.
By Midori
July 31, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
let’s start a drinking game: down a shot every time a wingnut exclaims, “I’m leaving now; see you at happy hour”
By What'll RW Do?
July 31, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
If they criminalize golf?
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
It’s a fact: Media conglomerates’ labor practices are harming the quality of TV and radio news.
By Kman
July 31, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
Just a passing observation, up until Vick showed up in court the other day he walks around camp, the games and in public looking like some thug. He had those hair riglet things hanging off the back of his head, gang style bandana, chains all over his neck, you would think he was running for “pope of the Crips”… Then he shows up in court looking like he is participating in a presidential debate!! Hair in businessmans cut, suit and tie, and in the vid of him going into court, he was even making sure his hanky in his suit breast pocket was straight. Hey Mike, clothes don’t make the man, a man makes himself. If the way you dressed before was your personna, it is kind of hipocritical to change it now, but hipocrisy is not you big problem here. If you get out of this ne HBO should Give you a special. You would be making David Copperfield look like Karnak the Magnificant
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I always admit it when I’m wrong, it’s just such a seldom occurrence that maybe you haven’t been around long enough to notice. I was wrong about the last elections. I predicted the Democrats would win the House by a slim margin and the Republicans would hold the Senate.
Criminalize golf??????? How did you know where I was headed?
I’m gone until happy hour. Drink up lush err…parrot.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
Red State Update invites GOP to Debate
By Tom Dundee
July 31, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
getalife,
Islamic terrorists are Islamic terrorists. Call them al Quaeda, call them whatever you chose. However, no matter what they are called, they need to be killed and that included those in the US. OBL is probably dead,if not he doesn’t dare show his face or he will be dead. Most of those connected to the 9-11 terrs are dead or in Gitmo, at least until the libs get their way & they are released. The first Islamic terr to kill in the US was Sirhan, the Islamic terr who killed Robert Kennedy and he belonged to no group. So many people say after an Islamic terr has killed some people, “Thank God he wasn’t part of AQ or it would have been worse.” smallnutjob, RW
Clinton pretended to be after OBL & AQ for years. He could have just trashed them and called it good. The he would have a legacy as fighting terrorism. Clinton’s problem was that he wanted legal proof, aka proof-beyond-a-reasonalble-doubt, before he would do anything. This was war not crime.
By Another Dummy Heard from
July 31, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
””“Clinton’s problem was that he wanted legal proof, aka proof-beyond-a-reasonalble-doubt, before he would do “”
Proof of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt!
What silly founding father came up with that idea!
Listen, Crock-o-shi+ Dundee,
why do you hate the basic principles of our constitution?
If you don’t like the US Constitution, why don’t you move to a country that doesn’t have one.
I’m sure the Saudi’s would love to have you!
By Tom Dundee
July 31, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
AnalChord,
There have been Islamic terrs in the US since the late 1970s, just waiting for orders.
I am concerned about your babble stating that the Saudi Puppet Army (SPA) & the Saudis running everything. That kind of talk could get you put in a padded cell.
How does that tie into the Jews running the world? Does the Jewish cabal that I thought were running things know about the SPA?
Please elaborate.
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century
July 31, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
-=-
Would You like Chips with that Sir!?
Of course - a GOP associated Company doing it too!
Death through Technology!
Cheers’
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
Mullen Calls For ‘Eventual Drawdown’ Of U.S. Forces In Iraq, Concedes Little ‘Political Progress’ » During his Senate confirmation hearing today, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs nominee Navy Adm. Michael Mullen argued that without political and economic progress, “no amount of troops and no amount of time will make much of a difference” in the war in Iraq. “[P]rudence dictates that we plan for an eventual drawdown and the transition of responsibilities to Iraqi security forces,” he said. In questioning later, he conceded, “there does not appear to be much political progress” in Iraq.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
Home Depot seems to have had a change of heart. They’re now unequivocally telling their customers that they will not advertise on Bill O’Reilly’s show. Oddly, however, they’re now also claiming that they never advertised on O’Reilly’s show.
By mm
July 31, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
Here’s your progress in Iraq.
By Midori
July 31, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
((((I’m gone until happy hour. Drink up lush err…parrot.)))))
Is that your “pet” name for your wife?
I’m not surprised — must be real depressing being with you.
Impotent, stupid, liar AND you suck at golf.
I suppose a gal’s gotta do what a gal’s gotta do to get through………
By getalife
July 31, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Tom,
President Clinton could not do anything with the gop screaming wag the dog.
Do you know you chances of being killed by the people are scared to death of is like is like winning the lottery.
Like I told the kossacks, grow a freaking spine.
Geez.
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
[By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
Bosch, I guess when you have nothing left to contribute you can always resort to personal attacks. Too bad you don’t have more to offer.]
[By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
Geez what a bunch of dunces. No wonder you all work for the government.
Since I don’t work for the government I’ll be leaving now. See you all at happy hour.]
Pre-conceived assumptions? Personal attacks?
NO! HYPOCRISY AT ITS BEST!!!!!!!
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Midori, If we played the “take a shot until happy hour” game, we’d be too drunk to run the country. :-)
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
Adm. Mullen is a liberal, coward, traitor who can’t stand the thought of a Bush victory. How did he get nominated? By Bush no less. Are there no patriots in the military anymore? We should provide security in Iraq until we win. Of course, we win when the Iraqis settle their political differences over which we have no control. But we should stay no matter how long it takes. So what if victory is in the hands of the Iraqi politicians. We will simply wait and die and spend until the Iraqi’s decide to give Bush his victory. It will happen. Not this month of course because they are off, but soon I’m sure of it.
RWNJIFG
By Midori
July 31, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
have pity on him Bosch - it’s not easy being a moronic eunich and a flaming idiot wingnut all at once.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
You know something, Dundee is RIGHT! I owe him an apology. Dundee, sorry that I frightened you, so I’ll stick to white house spin:
Dundee, what is the mission of US troops in Iraq?
By AmVet
July 31, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
{I agree that the public deserves some of the blame for this phenomena, after all the media is selling a product, but I don’t think we should declare them free from any fault.
There seems to be a race to the bottom going on in our culture, and while I’m not exactly a prude, I don’t think that the health of our society is benefiting from this in any way, shape or form.}
Andy, this may or may not shock you, but I agree.
The media does play a hand in all of this. They are after all, by and large, owned by vast multi-national organizations who are more than mildly interested in making a profit. And if “filth” is profitable, they’ll run with it until it isn’t anymore. And so the cycle goes.
It’s kind of like the age old question, “Does art imitate life, or life imitate art?”
I believe this is one of the failings of liberalism. As I don’t think that there can be much doubt that the excesses of the 60s and 70s were not without their risks and they have in some ways resulted in some really awful and dangerous social behaviors.
By mm
July 31, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Ethics reform passes house.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Wee, I have to be high to read the wingnut insanity for it to make any sense.
Sense?
Drool.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Kenneth Starr’s Law Firm Gives More Money to Clinton
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Midori, Like I told you the other day, I do have faith in humanity. :-)
Okay, I’m going to proove RW right about something, I’m going to use a pre-conceived assumption about something:
I wonder how long it will take Dusty to post saying something to the effect of:
“Well, let see what the stupid liberals have come up with today?
Oh, there’s Bosch being his usual idiot self, and then there’s Midori with her [insert insult here} —
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, squawk, squawk, squawk, squawk.”
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
Whatever happened too: Kenneth Starr?
By Midori
July 31, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
they try to be the masters of projection.
notice how they — especially RW the original idiot — keep trying to brand certain people as parrots?
if there were money in feathers, hypocrisy, hyperbole, and fantasy, those loons would be stinking rich
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Midori, I just printed that off and will hang it next to my computer to warn my children of the dangers of right-wing parrots, and where to be on the look out for them.
You are a true hero Midori, saving children around the world against the evils of such horrible creatures.
On behalf of all the Bosch children, thanks.
By Buy Danish
July 31, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
A slight change in schedule. I am stopping by here now for a brief visit, but am uncertain as to whether I shall return by Happy Hour.
Bosch,
You wonder why I make “assumptions” about you? Elementary, my dear Boschky.
You are a textbook example of the psychological condition known as Projection. Because YOU would cheer if, say, Bush choked on a pretzel*, you assume that we would “giggle our a*******es off” if a similar event happened to someone like the Clintons. But this is what seals it:
{{{By Bosch July 31, 2007 10:23 AM | RW/Buy Danish, Your distaste and loathing for anything “liberal” is well known.}}}
You see Boschky, it is YOU who are unable to separate people from their political leanings. YOU assume that because someone is a “Republican” or “Conservative” and are “loathesome” that they are to be hated.
YOU wrongly, and without a shred of evidence, conclude that we are as juvenile and psychologically challenged as you are, and like you, cheer and giggle when bad things happen to our political opponents.
By the way, is this too “Vile” and “cynical” a post for you? If so, then the truth is vile and cynical - which goes a long way toward explaining why you’re such a miserable fool.
On to the next Moonbat….
{{{ By Musty July 31, 2007 11:46 AM |
Buy Danish pops in, making sure we know she is a monk in the cult of Bill O’Reily. She supports the completely false concept that what is posted by some odd blogger on the largest political sight(SIC) on the planet … }}}
First of all, much of the time I do not agree with O’Reilly and I think he is all too often an arrogant horses’ a*. Paul is the “moderate” who loves OR.
To name just a few principled disagreements, I do not agree with him that the Oil Companies manipulate the price of oil. I do not think the Iraq War was a mistake. More to the point, last night he stated that he believed that the case at Pace of the Koran in the toilet was a legitimate “hate crime”. I could not disagree more with that conclusion and think that criminalizing thought is one of the most frightening “accomplishments” of Stalinists, err, liberals and their P.C. Campus Police. Indeed, my abhorrence of these sorts of dangerous restrictions to free speech is why I am “Buy Danish”.
Secondly,
By Midori
July 31, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
ROFL, Bosch
:)
By steve-o
July 31, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
“Indeed, my abhorrence of these sorts of dangerous restrictions to free speech is why I am ‘Buy Danish’.”
How does a sweet and fatty pastry combat those who plan to restrict free speech?
By Bosch
July 31, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this
And you Buy Danish are a textbook example of someone with a control issue, which, surprisingly enough is a common symptom of a sociopath.
Now YOU are telling ME what the TRUTH is? That’s real nice.
Please do not ever to pretend that you know what the TRUTH is FOR ME. Thank you.
You worry about your OWN TRUTH, I’m sure that’s hard enough for you right now.
By Dusty
July 31, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
OH boy, Buy Danish, @@ and RW are here. How nice!
Buy Danish has mentioned the utter gutterness of liberal comments on sick conservatives. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has a seizure and is hospitalized. getalife immediately posts that he is drunk. Others talk about drooling, frothing, etc. etc. I heard no complaints from other liberals, except a timid whine that ” we are not ALL like that”. In fact, most added a “roll in the muck” themselves.
Then the jokes about the colonoscopy and polyps were rated 5 star by liberals. When Cheney had a new pacemaker placed the comments were about the hope for his early demise. It has been such a class act that “Jiffy Johns” would love to be their sponsor. And that is where most of these liberal comments belong.
By Midori
July 31, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
(((A slight change in schedule. I am stopping by here now for a brief visit, but am uncertain as to whether I shall return by Happy Hour.)))
TRANSLATION: “Damn it all!! I’ve run out of eye of newt!!! And I’m already drunk BEFORE happy hour!! At this rate, I’ll never get that brew done. What the h-ell, I’ll just take it out on Bosch”
By steve-o
July 31, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
“When Cheney had a new pacemaker placed the comments were about the hope for his early demise.”
Not exactly—many of us merely commented that he reached the critical point of officially being more machine than man.
By Midori
July 31, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
speaking of seizures — you okay, Dusty? your words are coming across as gibberish. Oh, wait………
By Paul
July 31, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
In The News 11:54
This was discussed yesterday afternoon. My view is that political expression should be carried on without limit or intimidation. It seems to me encouraging economic sanctions against those who do not take part in a political debate but merely seek to advertise their product to gain sales (and more jobs for those who make the products) should not be intimidated. Shouldn’t questionable political statements, points of view and such be refuted with data, arguments and in some cases mockery? But to abandon all pretense of argument and wage economic intimidation seems to indicate a weakness of position.
BTW – all the “name one good thing Bush did” talk that resurfaces regularly. I always thought making sure kids in poorer districts getting accountability from their teachers (No Child Left Behind) was a pretty good thing. Argue about certain elements all you will, the overall concept (started in Texas when he was governor, I believe) is good.
So’s boosting the income of poor people who have kids through child care credits. So’s getting more money in their pocket and not penalizing work through boosting earned income credit. So’s removing from many of them the requirement to pay any Federal income tax.
Hello, Buy Danish at 2:28
A couple points of clarification, if I may.
I don’t “love” O’Reilly. I do appreciate many of his causes (protection of children, altho I differ with his position of all punishment no treatment for offenders). I was swayed by his position opposing the death penalty. I think he goes overboard on some issues – a tactic, I think, for wider publicity. I like a show where people with opposing viewpoints are brought on – but a few minutes per topic is not nearly enough. As with you, I also disagree with his stance on the person charged with a felony for flushing a Koran. Offensive? Sure. Political speech? I think so. I’m leery of any group who says any statement against their positions or beliefs is “hate.” I’m just generally in favor of a wide spectrum of ideas being presented – without government mandate.
BTW – I haven’t forgotten our appointment to discuss CAFÉ, when we can both find the time.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
GREAT CHENEY TOON
By Lord Help Us
July 31, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
No, Dusty…RW-(the liar) got spanked, soiled himself and retreated a while back.
He’ll probably slink back in sometime later when he thinks the statute of limitations has expired on his lies from earlier today.
By Analchord
July 31, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this
If Vick does end up with a cell mate, will it be puppy love?
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
You can’t serve if you’re openly gay or lesbian, but bring on the gang members and felons. A CBS report shows how bad the situation is. The number of incoming soldiers with prior felony arrests or convictions has more than tripled in the past five years. This year alone, the Army accepted an estimated 8,000 recruits with rap sheets, reports CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier. Most are guilty of misdemeanors, but around 100 in the past year had felony convictions.
By @@
July 31, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
AmVet @ 10:19:
Elaborate on the “government’s” experiment in “social” science?
They’ve got you by the husks.
I’m not one who supports the government educating the people who will be voting for them.
Given the last 40 years of liberal indoctrination into our educational system, it stands to reason that they, the government, would seek to keep their voters as dumb as possible. Therefore, they’re unable to achieve. If they are unable to achieve, then they’ll have to look to the government for assistance.
Education IMO is not an entitlement, it’s a privilege, an opportunity or avenue, if you will, to succeed in life.
I was thinking in terms of information media. It has the ability to shape public opinion in sound bites.
When it’s the entertainment media, you have only to look and see who it is in Hollywood that leads the leftist brigade. They’re not the brightest that Hollywood has to offer, that’s for sure. Sean Penn…Tim Robbins…Danny Glover. They take the easy path, they take their message to the streets because they know that those on the streets are in awe of them and their views.
Hollywood conservatives? They work the political powers. Bono comes to mind. Personal meetings with the powers that be. No partisan preference. Either/or. He accomplishes things.
BTW, what name were you posting under when you used to tell me “Now go away or I will taunt you a second time?” French soldier from Monty Python’s “Holy Grail”.
(((By One Voice May 8, 2007 5:03 PM
LuckoCho, err, I mean andy,
I found it very amusing to watch the beating you took today. And then rw came in for a little arse whooping too. You guys don’t have a leg to stand on anymore. You keep trying to defend an administration that does nothing but fail time after time and proves itself to be the most corrupt in history. You’re like the Black Knight from Monty Python- “A mere fleshwound!”- as your party and the country bleed to death. Don’t worry, we libs will come to the rescue soon enough, if not 07 then 08.
Hey, Granny.)))
OotMVoD? Exactly which majority did your voice speak for? Ralph Nader’s majority?
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
Rumsfeld apparently refuses to testify at hearing on death of Pat Tillman
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
In Violation of Federal Law, Ohio’s 2004 Presidential Election Records Are Destroyed or Missing
By Bono
July 31, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
I am not a conservative.
By @@
July 31, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Oh, and to add to my 3:27 AmVet.
Which party advocates accountability within our educational system?
Which party advocates school vouchers?
During the YouTube debates, all the candidates were ready to scrap NCLB. Easy and rewarding. Hillary didn’t say much since it was the same program she implemented in Arkansas while Bill was governor.
Chris Dodd said don’t scrap it, fine tune it. Our educational system needs to be held accountable.
Which party says that more of your tax dollars can improve it when those same tax dollars have accomplished the dumbing down of America for the last 40 years?
By @@
July 31, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
Bono:
Maybe not, but you’re smart.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
FAIR PAY ACT PASSES HOUSE. Congress today voted 255-119 to overturn the Supreme Court’s May ruling that all claims of pay discrimination must be filed within 180 days of the first pay check at a new salary. The House bill reverts to the accepted interpretation of the Civil Rights Act, in which each pay check is a separate act that can serve as the basis of a discrimination claim.
Bush has sworn to veto the bill, so stay tuned.
From Tapped
By @@
July 31, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
and Bono, you weren’t educated in America.
By Bono
July 31, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
You were though.
By Dusty
July 31, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
Ho hum
The queen of guttermuck has now had her say. Let’s move on.
Lord Help Us,
You can’t see straight when it comes to RW. He is very honest, very factual and a whiz at political information. That does not make you happy because it goes against liberal standards. All you’ve got left is some childish potty talk. Grow up!
IN THE NEWS
I guess we will hear from you next that Rumsfeld shot Tillman and it was a vast right-wing conspiracy. Don’t you ever get tired of trying to use a tragedy for propaganda purposes? Tillman was a hero. You are an anti-war, anti-hero, copy cat of jerkwater links. You are also a tiresome twit.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
“Today on CNN, in a preview of his interview with the Vice President tonight, Larry King said he asked Cheney about the allegation. “I asked the Vice President about that and the story that he was the one that asked him to go,” said King.
Three guesses… wait! No!
One guess. One guess what he said.
“[H]e said he had no recollection.”
How will history judge this “administration?” Forget all of us being dead.
We don’t know because no one will recall.”
Busted.
Impeach.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
YOU GUESS WRONG
AGAIN
DO YOU EVER GET TIRED OF LIES?
TILLMAN WAS A HERO
AN ANTI WAR HERO
THAT”S WHAT REALLY BOTHERS YOU
By Midori
July 31, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Crusty, Crusty, Crusty - The Queen of Quackery — I see the upgrade didn’t take.
I have faith in you.
NOT!!!!!
Do YOU ever tire of using tragedy for propaganda purposes?
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Of course, if you had one you’d know that.
By mm
July 31, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
RW is a whiz at political disinformation. Reminds me alot of Tony Snow.
Why don’t you wingnuts admit you are embarrased about voting for the worst president in history (twice). Ouch.
By Whatever
July 31, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
“You can’t see straight when it comes to RW. He is very honest, very factual and a whiz at political information. “
and my dog lays golden turds too!
By Dusty
July 31, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
@@….just wondering…
I’m a little late mentioning today’s cartoon. At first glance, I thought”Why is DeKalb’s CEO Vernon Jones in court with Bill Campbell?”
Somehow that didn’t look like Vick. Luckovich must have thought so too because it looks like he squeezed Vick’s name in at the bottom of the sheet. I know. Dog years and all that. At least, it wasn’t his usual squiggly sketch of Bush.
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Thompson Flip Flops on Taxes?
By @@
July 31, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
I didn’t see Jones or Campbell in ml’s cartoon Dusty.
I did see O.J. Simpson on the cover of “Time” was it?
Only ml could get away with convicting the “unusually dark and foreboding image” of Michael Vick before his trial.
If Vick is acquitted, maybe PETA can file a civil suit on behalf of the dogs.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
On the Tillman hearings: “In an exchange on July 13 before Rumsfeld was invited to testify, Rep. Waxman announced that White House Counsel Fred Fielding had refused to issue certain documents to the committee because of executive privilege.
The group VoteVets.org strongly criticized the White House for the assertion of privilege in the Tillman investigation.
“There is no Executive Privilege claim that holds any water when the matter is the death of an American soldier - especially one who had been used by the Administration as a poster for the war,” said Jon Soltz, an Iraq War veteran who heads the group, in a statement. “By refusing to release every pertinent document, the White House is fostering a climate of distrust among those in the military, hurting efforts to recruit new soldiers, insulting the memory of Pat Tillman, and causing undue pain to his family. Unless the President has something to hide, he should release all the documents requested by Republicans and Democrats on the Committee.”
Many of my winger friends have insisted that since they have nothing to hide that they had no problem with warrantless wiretaps. For whatever reason, this logic has not been applied to Bush who may or may not have something to hide when he asserts executive privilege. Well, I for one would like to address this issue from the conservative perspective so that this continued silence no longer serves as a suggestion of hypocrisy or inconsistency.
First, let me say that the “I have nothing to hide” defense of warrantless taps somewhat misses the point. I think the more salient point is: “Shut the hell up about your damn rights! We got a war for freedom going on!” We can not truly be free unless we trust and not question our leaders in these dangerous times. It simply emboldens the enemy and undermines our troops. So the bottom line is that you have no right to privacy because the President says so. So shut up.
Now with respect to executive privilege the President must be able to assert that as many times as he wants because his privacy is very important. Much, much more important than our own. Face it, he wouldn’t be hiding things if it weren’t in our best interest’s to do so. Furthermore, many of our traitorous citizens would abandon the President if they found out that he helped cover up what happened with Tillman or if he made a decision t
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Surveys Show House Dems Maintain “Nearly Landslide Leads” Heading Into ‘08 Elections
By Midori
July 31, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
typical Dusty post:
SNAP
CRACKLE
POP
By Pau
July 31, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Do you see the Republican candidates, this election cycle, as moving away from what have been litmus test issues, such as abortion, issues of importance to evangelicals (school prayer) and such to less emphasis in those areas? I ask, as it seems on the one hand McCain’s demise is attributed to “not a real conservative” but the frontrunner (Rudy) isn’t hard over on those issues.
I also notice that those on the Left here are quick to point out every issue wherein a Rep candidate isn’t really “conservative” yet the conservatives here seem to treat it all as “ho-hum.” It strikes me as some on the Left realize shedding these litmus tests could broaden Rep appeal and cause them problems.
In a similar vein, it seems many on the Left here are quite concerned about “moral/personal” issues of Rep candidates, while many whom I assume are Reps seem to treat it as of little importance. Well, Dems are going for the religious voters now - so I suppose anything’s possible.
By Dusty
July 31, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS tiresome twit
I was referring to YOU as the anti-hero. If you drop half the sentence, you come up with your usualy juggled conclusions. Do you work for the AJC?
mm,
I have no reason to be embarrassed about our stalwart president. He’s working hard on a tough job.
But there are plenty of citizens that embarrass not only me, but the whole country. That’s you loose lips lickety split-and-run liberal lagalongs. Hide your face!
By The Watcher
July 31, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
who exactly is “Pau”
switch hitter I bet
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
DUSTY, NO DUH
AGAIN IS WHAT REALLY BOTHERS YOU THAT TILLMAN WAS ANTI-WAR AND A HERO?
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Republicans Move To Stealthily Steal Electoral Votes
By Pau
July 31, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
Watcher 4:41
That would be “Paul” with a keyboard actuator input error.
By AmVet
July 31, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
TILLMAN WAS A HERO
AN ANTI WAR HERO
Well said IN THE NEWS.
I’ve always thought it a bit silly when grown men wear jerseys of their “heroes” to games. You see them all the time. (Though I would guess Vick’s #7 will not be seen that much now!)
There is one exception, I would wear Tillman’s #40 anywhere, anytime.
By New NeoCon Slogan
July 31, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
Will it be
“sustainable security”
or
“sustainable stability”?
Stay tuned…..
By The Watcher
July 31, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Pau - doesn’t your screen save your name for you?
By IN THE NEWS
July 31, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
Murdoch will tarnish a journalistic jewel Wall Street Journal’s image will suffer from association with News Corp.
By Paul
July 31, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Watcher
Yes, but I’d been away for a bit (off the ‘net) and mistyped my name. No subterfuge intended -
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 31, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
In The News says: “AGAIN IS WHAT REALLY BOTHERS YOU THAT TILLMAN WAS ANTI-WAR AND A HERO?”
Impossible. That can never happen. Those 2 things don’t go together. As Teddy Roosevelt said: “never confuse a dissenter with a patriot.” I think that’s what he said. I might have left a few words out but I think the point remains.
As far as Tillman being a hero, he certainly was until the libs started insisting on the truth. Thank God they didn’t do that before the war. Saddam would still be in charge of Iraq. You may complain about lies, but sometimes they work out and result in some good, like in Iraq. If lying can kill Hussien then I’m sure that more lies can only do more good. I guessing that Bush will keep lying and continue to hope for the best.
RWNJIFG
By @@
July 31, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Alright, these little guys have spoken and I think they deserve to be heard.
Given the number of little fellas who are growing up absent a father in the home, this could only prove to be beneficial.
I’m all for those retired “guys” from the military taking up a post in our classrooms.
I’m a female but I remember one male teacher, Mr. Gideon in fourth grade. He was one tough honcho. When he said stand straight, Rex couldn’t get out of his desk fast enough. Mr. Gideon just barked it out spontaneously. Every boy in the classroom came to attention.
All of us girls loooved Mr. Gideon and all of the boys showed him a healthy dose of respect. On the playground Mr. Gideon became their comrade.
By Duh stands for Democrat
July 31, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
{{{{By AmVet July 31, 2007 2:02 PM I believe this is one of the failings of liberalism. As I don’t think that there can be much doubt that the excesses of the 60s and 70s were not without their risks and they have in some ways resulted in some really awful and dangerous social behaviors.}}}}
While I do agree that liberalism has opened the floodgates, so to speak, conservatives are not with out blame for the decline of our culture.
They have “encouraged” this “bad” media by “consuming” it, even contributing in some cases like South Park. And we have not done enough to stop the spread, either by boycotting it or by putting out “good” alternatives to it.
Say what you will about the “Passion of the Christ” but I thought with it making mega millions at the box office that it would create a whole new genre of morally upright movies.
It’s a shame that no one had the courage to follow it up, being afraid of getting “Mel Gibsoned,” or tore apart by the mainstream press, is no excuse.
And I’m not talking about Christian movies either, how about something where the man of the family isn’t a villain or a drunk or some kind of demon?
You can’t watch five minutes of the Lifetime Network without seeing some woman getting raped by a creep.
That is not real life.
And it is not reinforcing the core family either, which is where a lot of our “problems” come from.
By @@
July 31, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this
Whoops! What happened to my link at 5:00?
It’s these little guys I was referring to.
Cute.
By Paul
July 31, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
@@ — Duh
Says something about the lack of a male/father role model in the lives of many kids. Sad. Plus, seems to me the number of children having babies, then electing to raise the baby, condemns both (in many, many cases) to a life of poverty. Double sad.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Did you see the little protest outside BO’s house?
Some at kos think they can fight BO and the wingnuts talking the moral high ground.
But wingnuts have no shame and never fight fair.
I had to tell them to argue with wingnuts for a couple of years to see what I was talking about. Mike knows.
Geez.
By @@
July 31, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this
Absolutely Paul, and dare I mention which party, which organizations will defend and support this past, present and sad future FOR our children?
I just read an awesome account of Stratfor from October 2001, right after 9/11. They’re accuracy in predictions back then have pretty much been on target with what we’re seeing today. They predicted that there will be an unfamiliar victory IN the Middle East, but that OBL’s holy war is not, and has never been contained in Afghanistan. OBL is NOT the be all and end all of Al Qaeda.
Now, I’ve got bad news for you. According to the new membership requirements, your free e-mails are gonna cost you $1.00 less than $100.00.
Good news for me though. I stumbled across a site which has a close relationship to George Friedman who allowed them to publish one of his articles. They had a 1/2 off subscription offer to Stratfor.
I’m back in The Shadow CIA. I’m so excited.
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
Do you think ml knows he got the math backward on this scribbling today? Six human years would be less than one dog year.
By @@
July 31, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
Come to think of it, John Kerry wouldn’t want retired military men teaching our kids. He thinks they’re too dumb.
By Paul
July 31, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
getalife
No, I didn’t see that. Strikes me as not in the best tradition of political speech “I don’t like what you say so I’m going to camp out in front of your house.” I’ve never seen a good discussion or refutation of a view result from such a situation.
@@
It’s great going over those past reports. Ever notice how some on this site get a tad touchy when the same is done with politicians’ comments? :) I just had a “sign up/renew” offer hit my email. Stratfor must be doing quite well. It does seem if they’d want to get their analyses out to the general populace they’d rethink their subscription rates. Then again, it’s not out of line with the newspaper fees I pay.
I’m glad you reiterated about OBL’s not the be-all and end-all. Neither is Afghanistan. Or Iraq. A theater of battle is not necessarily the critical battle. I’m still amazed at the number of liberals posting here who are quite liberal in their use of military forces - specifically to strike targets in Pakistan, regardless of the government’s desires. Side bet - what will India do if a fundamentalist regime coup takes place in Pakistan? (No, I did not read that in Stratfor!).
Quite a crackdown going on in Saudi Arabia. Inevitable, I think. Monarchs don’t take kindly to threats to their thrones - even when the threat is partially a monster of their own making.
You can also get a different perspective from some of the sites maintained by Middle Easterners who’ve spent time in the West. Sand Monkey was interesting (done by an Egyptian) but he’s off for a bit. Middle eastern democracies aren’t from the same cloth as western democracies -
By getalife
July 31, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
RW,
It says dog years.
He might be drunk, doing a shot every time a wingnut announces leaving.
Geez.
By Midori
July 31, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
actually, @@, Kerry was referring to Bush, not the soldiers.
but you’re too dumb to see that yourself.
is that why you people are always twisting other’s words? cause you’re too dumb to comprehend the written and spoken word?
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
getalife,
If Vick was facing 42 dog years that would be 294 human years.
I’m leaving for awhile. Drink up ml!
By getalife
July 31, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Watch him or KO tonight.
Should be fun.
Mike did the same to BO as he did to Jet Blue.
Its fair game.
Mike is fighter that actually get off his a* and protests.
I like Mike.
By Dusty
July 31, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
TILLMAN WAS IN THE MILITARY FIGHTING FOR HIS COUNTRY AND GAVE HIS LIFE. As far as I am concerned that is all I need to know to designate a hero.
I don’t need anyone telling what THEY decided he thought AFTER he died in action. Whatever his opinions were did not change his loyal support.
That is exactly what you liberals need to learn. Do what is honorable even when the going gets tough Tillman did.
By @@
July 31, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this
OMG, Musharraf is offering an alternative media for Pakistan. The Democrats will be there shortly to push the Fairness Doctrine.
[He asked the media organisations not to demoralise the nation and avoid creating despondency and despair amongst the people of the country. He said it was also the media’s responsibility to project the true spirit of Islam before the world, and promote the viewpoint that terrorists were not the true representatives of Islamic teachings.](http://www.thenews.com.pk/topstorydetail.asp?Id=93340
(((He said the country was enjoying a great economic upsurge, however, it was not being properly projected in the media. He said the media needs to project the ongoing tremendous development in the country, which would attract foreign financiers for making investment.)))
Dang, our liberal media has infiltrated Pakistan.
Midori:
I guess you think our military is dumb too because they heard John Kerry’s comment the same way I did.
Careful…careful now. That’s ^^^ a tricky one.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
Amnesty for OBL and his gang is pathetic.
The Dems will get them.
Geez.
By @@
July 31, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
Paul:
I’ll get right on that India/Pakistan assignment. I read it somewhere, but it’s been awhile back.
Agent @@ out.
By getalife
July 31, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
RW,
6x7=42.
Nevermind, I am drunk.
By Paul
July 31, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this
getalife
I’ll record both - thx
By Paul
July 31, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this
getalife
I’ll record both - thx
By Buy Danish
July 31, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this
The “secondly” part to “Musty” that didn’t make it the first time at 2:28 -
Musty,
Secondly, the “site” I linked to was “MaineCoastNow” which is hardly “the largest political site on the planet”.
And you deny that you are dunces?
Boschky,
Uh, just the other day you accused me of being someone who posted something or other about Harry Potter to you.
That was not me, Dude. So much for “assumptions”.
You know, it would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you had disavowed the trashy comments that your vile teammates made about Chief Justice Roberts and left it at that. But you didn’t, which says a lot.
As for how I treat my adversaries, I did tell Stalker Boy to have a lousy weekend once, just because I think he enjoys being miserable, so I was actually being very nice.
{{{By Midori
July 31, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
TRANSLATION: …And I’m already drunk BEFORE happy hour!!}}}
Actually Midori, I had to leave to host a party for a ton of kids. Nothing to drink but lemonade.
You must be confusing my drinking with your friend Goldie’s Chardonnay habit. I am just NOW enjoying my first cocktail of the day - a nice dry glass of White Burgundy, and believe me, that is not enough to get drunk on.
Maybe Parrots can’t hold their liquor?
DUH,
Hey, I love South Park!
By Dusty
July 31, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Just read your comment on Republican candidates. You mentioned the “litmus tests” for conservatives. And you mentioned “evagelicals”. I believe you had s question.
The only litmus tests I put to candidates is character. Of course, that depends on what you describe as “character”.
For me, it means that one does the very best that one can in all honesty. That leaves a lot of openings I guess but it works pretty well for me. I believe it is close to what most conservatives try for.
As to “evangelical”, my denomination has that word in its title, but it is the evangelistic elements of Christ, not the directory restrictions of what is called “fundamentalism”. There is such a difference.
Anyway, I always hope for the best in my choice of candidates but sometimes I am disappointed. I try to be open minded but I do find that the actions of many Democrats are most obviously directed to the detriment of Bush. You cannot miss the constant deluge of hate, disguised as comments, probes, quizzes, investigations, accusations and rumors.
I am rushing here but I hope I answered your real question.
By wtfbbq
July 31, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this
Last?
By RW-(the original)
July 31, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Looking at your 1:53 I can see you also don’t understand hypocrisy. Another of your clones had that same problem yesterday.
Then when I couple it with your whiny little 12:46 it sure makes you look Blackadder.
{{{{{AND you suck at golf}}}}} Good one parrot! Have you been watching A Few Good Men where Tom Cruise tells Kevin Bacon he’s a lousy bleeping softball player when he couldn’t think up anything intelligent to say?