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By Analchord
July 24, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
lol
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 24, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this
This will make Mr.G mad, but humbug on pro sports. Not much more than testosterone soap operas.
I prefer little kids sports. A clump of bed-headed, runny nosed, laughing young ones chasing the ball en mass. That’s Entertainment!
By AmVet
July 24, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
After the Braves Leaves SF, I hope the arrogant hotdog hits three more dingers real quick so we can be done with this nauseating Barry watch. You know, where ESPN breaks away for every single AB of his!
Does Bonds deserve to be in the HOF?
No doubt. Steroids or not. Some of his career numbers are staggering.
But for those who don’t already know about them, here are his post-season numbers:
84 games, 285 ABs, 66 hits, For a career playoff batting average of……
.232
Anemic, to say the least.
Like Reggie Jackson once said, “Come October, some guys cast no shadow.”
He will pass Henry Aaron’s record, but there is a good chance he will retire with NO World series rings. Karma.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Hank did it without steroids! End of story. Bonds is a disgrace to the sport, I stopped watching baseball during the last round of strikes.
Strikes? Are you kidding me?
Also, American football and basketball? I don’t give a rats a* about those sports either. They’re boring.
By Duh stands for Democrats
July 24, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
A defector from al-Qaeda in Iraq told U.S. and coalition authorities recently that “between 80 and 90 percent of the suicide attacks in Iraq are being carried out by foreign-born al-Qaeda terrorists.” The defector estimated the toll of such attacks in the last six months at “some 4,000 Iraqis killed or injured by the al-Qaeda suicide attacks.”
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{{{{{{Sen. Barbara Boxer is heading north this weekend – way north – to Greenland with a bipartisan delegation of senators to see firsthand the effects of global warming. (Guess who’s footing that travel bill, yes, the tax payers.)}}}}}}
Why do they have to go all the way to Greenland to see the effects of “global” “warming?”
By Nomad
July 24, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
Funny ‘toon
I agree with Bosch’s 8:49 post with the exception of the strikes part. I have to admit. I still watch.
NOMAD
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Barry Bonds’ former mistress, at the center of the government’s perjury investigation of the slugger, said Monday she will discuss the couple’s relationship in the November issue of Playboy magazine.
By Tom
July 24, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
AmVet, who cares! I gave up on Baseball when the millionaires and the Billionaires had a feud and there was a strike.
Karma indeed!
By @@
July 24, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
I agree with Mrs. G about about kid’s sports. More often than not the littlest ones aren’t running anywhere in particular, they’re just running.
No stress…
I rarely watch T.V., but I’m looking forward to watching “Kid Nation”. Should be interesting.
Popeye, going…going…going GREEN on tainted spinach.
By Not Duh
July 24, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Please don’t feed Andy/Duh/Dull/Suck or any of his other personalities. He has been banned from this site and just comes by to annoy people.
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
In today’s cartoon, Popeye’s stance is all wrong, and he’s leaning back, thus that ball is going foul, so the record is NOT broken, and we can go back to our daily lives of misery and neglect.
hey Popeye! Olive Oil called. She wants her wood back.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
I agree with Mrs. G and @@. I’ve watched my kids grow up playing different sports, but now it’s only soccer they enjoy.
But I used to love it when my kids were little playing sports. They would occassionally take a break out on the field and start playing with bugs, once my son found a frog out on the field and ran over to me during the game to show me (I had to remind him the game was still going on). It was great.
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
About 45% of all foreign militants targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia; 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa, according to official U.S. military figures made available to The Times by the senior officer. Nearly half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are Saudis, he said.
AL QAEDA IN IRAQ IS GEORGE BUSH”S GIFT TO THE WORLD, THANKS GEORGE
McCain Strolls Through Baghdad Market, Accompanied By 100 Soldiers, 3 Blackhawks, 2 Apache Gunships
TAXPAYERS FOOTING THE BILL TO BE TOLD A BAGHDAD MARKET IS AS SAFE AS INDIANA WHY NOT JUST FILM IN INDIANA - DONT NEED ALL THOSE APACHE HELICOPTERS THERE
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
Unfortuantely the only reason I watch baseball is if I’m having problems sleeping. No disrespect, but baseball has to be one of the most boring things ever to watch, (besides watching grass grow). I mean, come on people!! Who wants to watch a no -hitter? It’s a game where NO ONE HITS THE BALL!!! That’s fun?!?!? I’m watching a game, forcing myself to stay awake and no one hits the ball?!?
What’s next? A game where no one can FIND the ball? They look all night but it can’t be found and that’s considered a great game?!?
Announcer: Yes people history is being made again tonight, no one on either team has found the ball!! What excitement!! What thrills and chills!! What a game, WHat …A…Game!!!
PLEASE!! Baseball is deader than Ruth.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
DDR, LOL, I actually fell asleep at a Braves game once. I woke up in the bottom of the 9th, the score was 0-0, and the Braves walked in the winning run.
How boring is that?
Haven’t been back.
By AmVet
July 24, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Tom, I know. Many fans have given up on our national pastime and I would never argue against their choice. Perhaps they are smarter than I.
And there is no doubt that the game has been somewhat perverted over the past thirty years - the DH, ‘roids, strikes/walkouts, umps screwing with the strike zone and ungodly amounts of money.
But as a lifelong fan who grow up watching Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford et al, I have this hope (naivety?) that the game has only temporarily been hijacked by these prima donnas and insane money grabbers.
Ah, it’s good to have a (pipe) dream!
Bosch, I very much respect your opinions and enjoy your writing, and I guess I’m a fundamentalist evangelical about it. But for me, baseball is the only true religion. The others are all false religions!
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
DDR, I forgot to mention golf — golf is more boring than watching grass grow (and baseball). Playing it is one thing, I’m sure that can be fun, but watching it? What? It’s a sport where everyone has to be quiet! What kind of fun is that?
By Tom
July 24, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight, I still watch Baseball some times and like the game if a couple of teams I like are playing.
If I can’t sleep then I’ll watch golf on TV. Puts me right out. I can’t believe people really actually watch Golf on TV? That to me is like watching grass grow.
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Baseball is exciting. It’s the announcers who put you to sleep.
The problem baseball cant solve are the umpire’s opinion of where the strike zone is located. They seem to think that if the pitch SHOULD have fooled the batter into swinging, then it’s a strike.
In other words, it’s not where you throw the ball, it’s how you throw it.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
AmVet, I never mean to disrespect someone’s religion! I am truly, truly sorry. I remember watching the game, the actual game, when Hank Aaron broke that record. The last time I was in Atlanta was for the Hunger Walk, and I walked down to that section of the back fence they have up, told my kids the story, and we all stared for a while in a little meditative salute to the man.
I used to love baseball when I was a kid, but it has gotten out of hand [just like with other professional sports-soccer included].
I could be wrong, but I have never heard of a professional soccer/football team going out on strike, the fans would revolt and kill all the players and owners! You don’t mess with soccer fans, man! They are serious!
Keep up the good work, my brother!
By Say It Ain't So
July 24, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Debbie, How about watching the pitcher and appreciating the skill involved to throw that no hitter?
Gymnastics are boring to watch also unless you pay attention to the skills that it takes to do all the things that they do. Unless of course you’re a pedophile.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
I just had a weird thought. If Michael Vick was a soccer player and flipped off the fans like he did last year, he would have met the same fate as some of his dogs. The fans would have rushed the pitch and ripped off his head before he could have cried for his mother.
By @@
July 24, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
Paul, if you stop in I just wanted to say…
I watched the You-Tube debates last night.
I’m prepared to elect Barack Obama for Senior Class President. For all of his idealism, for all of his lofty dreams…other world leaders who lack both would clean that guy’s clock.
If I was considering voting Democrat, which I’m not. Joe Biden would be my choice. At one time I thought Richardson was worth a looksee but dang, he’s begun to pander and he doesn’t seem to be all that bright which surprised me with all of his experience in foreign relations.
Maybe he’s a doer that can’t put his experience into clever soundbites.
The frontrunners keep talking about change, change, change. Enough already, that one has been overdone and is now stale.
Gravel, as nutty as he is, has nailed it. “There’s not going to be any change in how Washington operates.”
It was interesting to me that only 3,000 questions were submitted when You-Tube has millions of participants. The 3,000 total were submitted from around the world. Of that 3,000 only 35 were worthy enough to make it on air.
Some guy talked with a roomful of Democrats who had watched the debates. Everyone in there said that Obama “seemed” honest, “seemed” to care, “seemed” to offer change. Those voters “seemingly” don’t require substance from Obama.
Kinda leaves you scratching your head about poll numbers. Who the heck are these people they question, and just how serious and informed are they about politics?
By Paul
July 24, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Not a sports comment (I tend towards nonprofessional viewing) - comment on the debate last night.
I thought of you when Darfur came up - Sen Biden was asked about unilateral military action, which he supports, when asked why, how it’s different than other situations, his response was an honest, unequivocal “because we can.” Power projection at its purest.
I’ll give Anderson Cooper credit for followups. Hillary did not want to answer about committing US ground forces. He asked her, I think three times, before he got a straight answer. Watching that exchange was more painful than watching… golf?
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Reading some of the excruciatingly boring comments on this blog today is like watching weeds grow.
Leave it to DDR to not understand that baseball is as much about pitching and fielding as it is about hitting. That could be an analogy for her short-sighted political views also.
Leave it to Bosch to find “the greatest game ever played” boring, revealing a certain, shall we say, “ignorance” of the game of golf.
Synchronized swimming - now that’s boring.
IN THE SNOOZE,
The 9/11 hijackers were “Foreign fighters”.
How was that George Bush’s fault?
While you’re looking for “NEWS” stories you may want to read Bin Laden’s fatwas - all released during the Clinton Presidency.
They are as boring as watching weeds grow, but they are essential historical documents.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
Say it Aint So, So, explain this. That is ONE PERSON on the team’s skill (for a pitcher to hit a no-hitter). That’s not fun. That’s not exciting (sorry AmVet). Baseball is, or is supposed to be a team sport. Why would I want to pay lots of money to see one person strike out a lot of players. When I shuck out all that money to see a TEAM sport, I want to see ACTION - NON-STOP ACTION!!!!
By Paul
July 24, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish
You mean like the fatwa in Aug 1996 where bin Laden declared war on America? I still don’t understand why Pres Bush didn’t get right on that in Jan 2001.
By N-GA
July 24, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
I noticed a post about suicide bombers in Iraq being mostly foreigners. I suppose its ironic that most of the soldiers fighting them are “foreign”, too.
I guess the Iraqi’s would prefer that they take their fight elsewhere.
By It sure is so
July 24, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Doyle, a registered Democrat was specifically appointed by the REPUBLICANS.
What with all the sex scandals, maybe that’s why he was picked. The REPUBLICANS needed more troops for their sick sex administration.
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
To All Baseball Fans: Sorry. I can’t help it, baseball is boring. Baseball is the only game where you have a 7th innning stretch. Why? Because they have to wake up all the fans!!! They were sleeping so they give them some time to wake up and stretch!! They even have some of the PLAYERS on camera sleeping during the games!!!
Come on!!! Baseball is BORING. Gymnastics would be boring if not for the little men wearing those tight pants. Golf is boring, not as boring as baseball, (mainly because the fans can’t fall asleep standing up), but still boring. NASCAR my god NASCAR!! I don’t get it!!! It’s not even a sport, it’s DRIVING!!! They drive around in a circle, sometimes for 200 laps — TWO HUNDRED LAPS, round and round in a circle, and people consider that fun?!? The only good thing about NASCAR is all the beer.
Soccer, Ice Hockey, Basketball, Tennis, Football, and yes, even SYNCHRONIZED SWIMMING is better than baseball. Ironing is better than baseball. Eating liver is better than baseball. 12th grade PHYSICS is better than baseball. NASCAR is better than baseball, at least you have beer and can cookout and you can’t fall asleep because of all the car noise.
Baseball fans, God bless you, you are the most loyal people in the world. Single handedly keeping the most boring sport EVER alive. You people need medals for your sacrifice.
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
This is what happens when Moonbat liberals, with a little help from the ACLU, involve themselves in military affairs.
{{{Pakistani militant blows self up to avoid arrest/Police say they had cornered pro-Taliban former Guantanamo inmate}}}
The one-legged militant was released from the U.S. jail for terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in March 2004 after he was captured in Afghanistan fighting for the Taliban./He quickly took up arms again, and became a leader of militants in the South Waziristan region on the Afghan border, and was wanted for the kidnapping of two Chinese engineers later that year.
Well done!
/SARC.
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
GUY DANISH
“IN THE SNOOZE,
The 9/11 hijackers were “Foreign fighters”.
How was that George Bush’s fault?”
NEVER SAID IT WAS.
ARE IMPLYING IT IS?
OR DO YOU HAVE VERY SERIOUS READING COMPREHENSION ISSES?
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
BAseball is about pitching and fielding? Well DUH!! But it’s also about POINTS. If the score is zero to zero than for 17 innings then WHY IN GODS NAME would you want to watch it? I say call it a draw and let the poor sleepy people, (players), go home!!
BOSCH: I feel your pain man!! GOLF!! The best thing about golf is the clubhouse where you can get some booze and a couple of beers.
BALLET is better than Golf and Baseball. BALLET with your mother-in-law whom you can’t stand and barely tolerate, is better than Golf and Baseball.
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
When our forces finally entered before dawn this morning a man blew himself up to avoid being captured.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TRULY EVIL NEO CONS GET INVOLVED.
PEOPLE BLOW THEMSELVES UP RATHER THAN GO BACK TO AMERICAN TORTURE SITES.
GEORGE WASHINGTON IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE
GOD IS NOT SMILING
By rushncap
July 24, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
@@ — most people are about as informed about politics as you. That’s why we wind up with idiots like Bush in the White House.
You may now take sentences out of the context of my posts and “prove” that I love to rape little puppies. I’ve reduced you to this, might as well stick to what you know. And it ain’t politics.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
Paul, Hey Paul, thanks! I didn’t see the debates last night.
Well, I disagree with Senator Biden. I don’t think it’s the US’ responsibility, I think it is the world’s responsibility (UN). But, you have to give it Biden for being honest, even if his honesty is hypocritical. I think situations like Darfur are very similar to conflicts like Somalia, Yugoslavia, etc. They are in the national interest, and I think they can be accomplished, but as a war-hating liberal, I’ve never, never think it is appropriate for one country to go in and try to solve another countries problems.
BUY DANISH, BUY DANISH - I didn’t say golf ITSELF was boring, I said WATCHING it was boring. I’ve only played golf once in my whole life, and I’m sorry, but it just wasn’t for me. I have lots of friends who love the game, are completely obsessed with it. You are totally right, I am horribly ignorant in the game of golf. I like “rowdy” sports.
By The Watcher
July 24, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish comes out swinging!
Feel the breeze
Strike 1
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
DDR, Oh, my God, your baseball rant is so funny (sorry again, AmVet - no hurt feelings, okay?).
12th grade physics and ironing more fun than baseball? That’s classic.
I feel the same about NASCAR. I’ve never seen the appeal in that. I guess that’s why pathetic rednecks like it so much, their pea brains don’t have to think about it much. It’s like, “Hey Bubba, did you see that? That car just passed the other car, wow!” And then Bubba says, “Yeah, Billy Bob, I did see that {burp}, hey dude, hand me another beer.”
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
{{{By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
GUY DANISH
“IN THE SNOOZE,
The 9/11 hijackers were “Foreign fighters”.
How was that George Bush’s fault?”
NEVER SAID IT WAS.
ARE IMPLYING IT IS?
OR DO YOU HAVE VERY SERIOUS READING COMPREHENSION ISSES?}}}
IN THE SNOOZE,
Do you have A.D.D. or Alzheimer’s?
{{{By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 9:10 AM |
About 45% of all foreign militants targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia; 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa, according to official U.S. military figures made available to The Times by the senior officer. Nearly half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are Saudis, he said.
AL QAEDA IN IRAQ IS GEORGE BUSH”S GIFT TO THE WORLD, THANKS GEORGE}}}
Or are you just a freaking moron?
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Say It Ain’t so I don’t get your post: (Gymnastics are boring to watch also unless you pay attention to the skills that it takes to do all the things that they do. Unless of course you’re a pedophile)
Wasn’t one of the high ranking republican Homeland Security Chiefs convicted of child molestation about two years ago WAY before this incident? Why bring up one pedophile but forget about the other one? What was the point of your post? Just to say, “Here’s a Democrat who is a pedophile too!!”?
Pedophiles come in all walks of life and ALL political backgrounds — it’s not something to be bandied about; it’s a crime that should be addressed for the sake of the children involved.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
I would really like to have a golf cart though, that would be awesome. I wish I lived in Peachtree City.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 24, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
You are so right about that guy that was released. I didn’t know that the ACLU and a panel of liberals made the decisions as to who should be released from Guantanamo. I guess I just assumed that the military actually made the call as to who would go and who wouldn’t. Thanks for keeping all of us up to date and informed.
Frankly I think that the Government should lock up everybody that the President suspects is undermining our mission i.e., bloggers, media types, politicians, judges, people in uniform who make disparaging comments, etc… and shopuld throw away the key. We also should allow the Government to do what it needs to to root out these people without regard to any privacy rights that the ACLU may claim we have. I would, however, insist that executive priviledge be enforced strickly. If somebody needs their privacy it is Our Dear Leader.
RWBJIFG
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Going back to the Darfur thing for a minute, and then I must go out for a bit, I think there is a lot of things we as a country can do to HELP the situation, we have so many resources, I like anyone else, hate to see genocide occuring, but again, if military action is needed, I think it is the responsibility of the UN to take action.
The UN has become too dependent upon nations like us, just marching in and taking over, which makes them seem weak and useless. I think a lot of changes need to be made in the UN as well.
Consistency, consistency, that is the true mark of success.
Be back later —
By Paul
July 24, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Unfortunately, I was able to see only the first hour. The YouTube questions were, by and large, better than many presented by professional journalists.
I believe I may have misunderstood your earlier position. Biden did say he wanted unilateral US action (air cap, 2500 groundpounders) as the UN was ineffectual. That is a good assessment. The UN is ineffectual in situations like this - and much of the obstructionism comes from African/Muslim power blocks. He sees it as straight humanitarianism with little downside for us.
I don’t see the national interest - in Darfur or in the former Yugoslavia (I know, NATO op - but we pushed it). The whole theme I’ve addressed is “when should the US intervene militarily (if it’s humanitarian, but military is involved, it’s still military intervention)? Strategic interests at stake? No strategic interests, but humanitarian? If humanitarian, how grave before intervention? What casualties are we willing to accept? (Hence my “intervention by casualty count” comment). Human suffering does not equal US national interest. I give Biden credit for acknowledging that. Possibly we should have a military force organized for humanitarism/nation building if we’re going to stay in the humanitarian intervention. Protestations of others to the contrary, Iraq showed the military is not exactly equipped for nationbuilding (boots on the ground to keep a lid on strife does not equal ability to build political infrastructure).
That’s why I’m such an advocate for some pretty extreme (to some) measures regarding environment/petroleum. If not for oil, we wouldn’t give two cents for what Muslim countries did to one another. We’d still be a target (jihadism is not about oil).
Off to a meeting - later.
By @@
July 24, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
rushncap @ 10:20:
Bless your heart, sometimes I just wanna ignore that “open door” you leave and not walk through it. You just can’t leave it alone though can you?
Here’s the post you left for me after closing.
Here’s the post that you said you wouldn’t answer because it was “beneath” you.
If your comments can be so easily taken !?!out of context!?! then maybe you should engage your brain before you engage your typing fingers.
I really was tempted to “clean your clock” but I’m feeling quite generous today.
“Beneath you” rushncap?…”beneath you”? You have no offensive moves when your fingers are so “slippery” and you are constantly dropping “your ball(s)”.
Too freakin’ funny!
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
GUY DANISH
AGAIN NEVER SAID IT
NO MATTER HOW YOU STRETCH IT
1 PLUS 1 DOES NOT EQUAL 72.5
ALQAEDA IN IRAQ DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THIS OCCUPATION - IT IS THEREFORE GEORGE BUSH”S GIFT TO THE WORLD, HIS LEGACY
IT DOES NOT MEAN “The 9/11 hijackers were “Foreign fighters”. How was that George Bush’s fault?”
2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TOPICS
REPEAT SLOWLY FOR EMPHASIS
2
COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT
TOPICS
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH TWISTING THE WORDS OF YOUR TENNIS PARTNERS OR THE LADIES WHO LUNCH AT THE POOL….BUT 75% OF US WON”T ALLOW IT ANYMORE
YOU SURE SHOWED UP LOCKED AND LOADED THIS MORNING. TROUBLE AT HOME?
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
RWNJ,
If you don’t understand the difference between someone captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan fighting with The Taliban and a blogger, then there is no hope for you.
By AmVet
July 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
OK, people that’s it!
To quote the guy in today’s cartoon, “I’ve had alls I can stand, I can stands no more!”
All this badmouthing of my beloved game!
Yes, many people find baseball boring. And now that I think about it, as someone who would almost certainly have been diagnosed with ADD back as a child, it is odd that I find the ebb and flow, the sometimes very slow pace of the game very soothing.
But for me there is some comfort in the fact that unlike our ultra fast paced society where the clock is god, baseball is the antithesis of that.
And yes, I know that many people could give a rats behind about great pitching.
Mrs. G and DDR, you’re both way cool, and that 10:17 was, I must begrudgingly admit, very funny, BUT…don’t make me come over there and make you watch a pitching dominated doubleheader! And the same goes for the rest of you cretins!
Just kidding!
BD, you may be the only person on the planet who would try to interpret someone’s opinions about baseball and try to make a correlation with politics. To quote getalife - geez.
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
{{{YOU SURE SHOWED UP LOCKED AND LOADED THIS MORNING. TROUBLE AT HOME?}}}
IN THE NEWS,
Kerist, if your life’s ambition was to be a jackass, you couldn’t do a better job of achieving that goal.
Off to spoil a good walk…
By Say It Ain't So
July 24, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
Bosch, Actually it is two people, the pitcher and the one deciding what pitch to throw, the catcher.
If ‘action’ is what determines a sport, then golf (the action of the club and ball), bowling (pin action), and I guess you could include dog fighting as a sport. While I have never witnessed a staged dog fight (only the ones where two neighborhood dogs get loose and go at it) I suspect there is plenty of ‘action’ and “rowdiness” in a dog fight.
DDR, Your NASCAR comments show just how little you know about the sport. If it is just ‘driving’ you should give it a try. Try setting in a chair, with the temperature around 150 degrees, moving only your feet and hands, and avoiding obstacles while you’re just ‘driving’. Oh and do it for 2-3-4 hours without taking a break. They also sell beer at baseball games so I guess that makes baseball a ‘good thing’? Ever watch a hockey game end with the score of 0-1, was that boring and not a sport?
Seems that ‘beer and booze’ are the key factors for little miss DDR.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 24, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Amvet,
Would I get back into your good graces if I told you what a great sports wife I am? Mr. G never attends a game without an overdone tailgate meal. Complete with team colors, stuff that plugs in and lights up and the silver flask.
I may not be crazy about sports, but I’m crazy about a sports fan!
I had more fun though, when my daughters and I tailgated at the opera last year! Sequins and cold lobster. Mr. G sooo missed out on that!
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
GUY DANISH
IF YOUR GOAL IN LIFE IS TO BE A PETULANT, ARGUMENTATIVE, WRONG HEADED SNIP
YOU MADE IT!
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Rove blamed for Attorney firings in Gonzales hearing; Specter raises prospect of impeachment
By Say It Ain't So
July 24, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
AmVet (10:54) “BD, you may be the only person on the planet who would try to interpret someone’s opinions about baseball and try to make a correlation with politics. To quote getalife - geez.”
The connection is quite clear. When DDR and others talk about a sport that they clearly have no knowledge of and then, as Bosch does (10:29), make fun of the people that do enjoy that sport you show a large character flaw. Now, when this same group of people spout off about politics with about as much understanding and knowledge as they have shown about sports, and then these same people call those with a different point of view names (liars, crooks, criminals, ignorant) just because they don’t agree with your point of view.
The correlation is definitely there.
By AmVet
July 24, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
DDR, you hubby sounds like a nut! My kinda sports nut!
Tailgaiting at the opera? Sequins? Lobster?
LMAO! Who woulda EVER thunk it?
Though it is not really my genre, I’ve always wanted to go to the opera. For two reasons.
I love a great deal of classical music and I’m sure some of the operas are tremendously enjoyable.
And that scene in Philadelphia where Tom Hanks is listening to and describing some amazing aria (I don’t know the piece) is one of the most compelling pieces of film I have ever seen.
By Old Timer
July 24, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
Spinach is not an illegal substance used for cheating. Steroids are. The cartoon is weak. Besides I think Popeye had higher standards than Bonds
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
Say it ain’t so: Do you have ANY friends? Do they EVER tell jokes? Can you LAUGH at something sometimes? Is your life so MISERABLE you can’t find the joy in anything? If you’ve answered YES to any of these questions, then you must be a republican.
Dude it was a JOKE. Lighten up. Open up your mind to humor, it’s a good thing.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 24, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish says: “If you don’t understand the difference between someone captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan fighting with The Taliban and a blogger, then there is no hope for you.”
Qualitative difference maybe, but we must remember what Our Dear Leader said: “You are either with us or against us.”
In my Right Wing mind this means that you support the President and his policies i.e., you are a good, decent American, or you are the enemy. Today’s Daily Kos blogger is tommorrows suicide bomber. I’d hate for the evidence of the dangerousness of liberals to come in the form of a mushroom cloud. So we must do what it takes to secure them. And of course we don’t let the ACLU get involved in whether they get out. In fact, they’d be in, so it wouldn’t really matter.
RWNJIFG
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
[Mrs. G and DDR, you’re both way cool, and that 10:17 was, I must begrudgingly admit, very funny, BUT…don’t make me come over there and make you watch a pitching dominated doubleheader]
Amvet!! You WOULDN’T!!! Talk about cruel and unusual punishment!!!! shudder.
It was Mrs. G who’s a great sports wife. I like sports, my husband, the Lousiana Cajun only likes hunting and fishing — however, before he left for overseas, I have packed a few rounds and fishing rods for him!!
As for OPERA, (shudder) — there are only 4 operas that I like and will spend money to go see. Porgy and Bess, Madame Butterfly, Miss Saigon, (a modernized Madam B); and Carmen. All others make me fantasize about becoming a Nascar driver……….
By getalife
July 24, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
I ams what I ams.
Make no mistake, Bonds is a home run hitting machine.
The sports world is marred with with corruption.
Bonds with steroids, referee fixing games to pay off gambling debts (there is no mafia involved) and Vick, the dog killer.
This is a trickle down effect from our leadership and corporate crime is running amok because our justice system is corrupt.
How about that debate last night? Very cool and Mike needs to warm up his Clinton characters because Bill will be back in the WH.
Bwa, deal with it wingnuts.
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
getalife: What do you think is the biggest sports controversy of all time? My three are:
USA vs. USSR for the gold (Basketball); ref did not call foul on USSR, buzzer blew, the gold went to the Soviets.
Pete Rose — gambling.
Milli-Vanilli
By Paul
July 24, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
AmVet
Absent going to the opera, may I suggest a great DVD - Callas Forever. A 2002 Franco Zeffirelli film about the later life of Maria Callas. Fanny Ardant does a super job as Callas, Jeremy Irons has the male lead.
DebbieDoRight - there’s a great Carmen sequence. Enjoy!
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Oh well, might as well put my two cents worth here.
I love to watch the Braves play baseball. Lotsa fun ‘specially when Willie Harris makes six hits in one game.
Watching guys hit a ball over the fence with a stick is far more fun than watching fellows bouncing balls off their heads and then playing footsie with the ball. Sounds like my dog could play soccer.
IN THE NEWS ho hum Do the Democrats ever say anything but “impeach (anybody Republican)”??? Please tell us about the great achievements of the Democratic led Congress, such as the all night talkathon…
RIGHT WING NUT JOB is more NUT job than right wing. In fact he is just another one of those cute liberal phony impersonators. They pop up all over the place.
Darfur..getting even more complicated as rebels are divided in their fight against the ruling government that uses militia and janjaweed. Humanitarian aid continues to be difficult to deliver.
BOSCH declares himself a war hating liberal. Perhaps we should have skipped WWII, Bosch? Neville Chamberlain was also a war hating liberal.
At least,for today, LUCKOVICH, did not make a cartoon showing our president looking like a grasshopper in flight. AJC probably docked his pay for not demonizing Bush for a day.
By mm
July 24, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Most Americans see President Bush as intransigent on Iraq and prefer that the Democratic-controlled Congress make decisions about a possible withdrawal of U.S. forces, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Opera has never had much appeal for me. But oh, that classical Spanish guitar is wonderful. You Tube has come up with some great guitarists. Segovia got me going with this long ago.
One of my favorite selections right now is the semi-classical introduction to the Maria Pales firedance on the original Riverdance. That is a lovely soothing piece that I can listen to many times and that followed by the great talent of Pales. Flamenco is great but the Spanish guitar is even better.
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
DUSTY
SORRY IF THE IMPEACHMENT TALK SCARES YOU.
BETTER BE PREPARED< IT”S ONLY JUST BEGUN.
HOW ABOUT THAT MINIMUM WAGE - FIRTS INCREASE IN 10 YEARS!
GOOD GOING CONGRESS!
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 24, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
My favorite Aria
(“Flower Duet” from Act 1 of Lakme has been a musical star everywhere from movies, to TV ads, to cell phone ringtones. Soprano Aline Kutan and mezzo-soprano Mireille Lebel sing the “Flower Duet”](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10112052)
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 24, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
One more time
“Flower Duet” from Act 1 of Lakme has been a musical star everywhere from movies, to TV ads, to cell phone ringtones. Soprano Aline Kutan and mezzo-soprano Mireille Lebel sing the “Flower Duet”
By Say It Ain't So
July 24, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
DDR, (11:38) Do you have ANY friends? Do they EVER tell jokes? Can you LAUGH at something sometimes? Is your life so MISERABLE you can’t find the joy in anything? If you’ve answered YES to any of these questions, then you must be a republican.
YES I have friends, YES, they tell jokes, YES, I can laugh at some things (like the libs on this blog), NOPE my life is not miserable. 3-yes 1-no.
I must be a Republican? More of a Libertarian than a Republican..sorry.
Now what does this say about the Democrats? NO friends, Never tell jokes (as they are one) Can Not laugh at some things, AND have a MISERABLE life.
DDR, I think you have summed things up very well thank you.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
July 24, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
Dusty says: “RIGHT WING NUT JOB is more NUT job than right wing. In fact he is just another one of those cute liberal phony impersonators. They pop up all over the place.”
While I appreciate the “cute” I disagree that somehow “Right Wing” can be disconnected from “Nut Job”. You don’t get one without the other.
It is amazing to me that my posts, which are simply stating current Right Wing theology, are met with such resistance. All I have ever done is be a “ditto head” for you are the rest of my Right Wing Nut Job friends here.
Post after post I merely repeat or restate what all of us Wingers believe. Now I would agree that I don’t spin it and I don’t try to avoid the logical conclusions that derive from the facts.
For example it wasn’t too long ago that I pointed out that we were going to have to give the Iraqi’s substantial weaponry in order to protect them from its neighbors after victory is had and we leave. I mean it seems to me that they wuld have to have far more advanced technology than before. Fighter planes, surface to air missiles, an up to date and modern radar system so that they can reliably shoot down enemy planes, a Patriot Missle battery to shoot down incoming missles etc… If we don’t do this they will just be sitting ducks. Now it may be that the Iraqi’s end up with a well-armed governemnt we don’t like and we’ll have to go back against a much better force than we took out before, but hey, “we broke, we own it” right. This line of thinking was either resented or ignored by my winger friends. Why I don’t know. I mean we knew when we did this that ultimately we would have to prepare a country to defend itself in a very hostile region. While this seems obvious and in no way undermines why we engaged in this most glorious mission, bringing it up hasn’t been welcomed. I think its because somehow you think it makes us look stupid. Hey, you are a winger…own it.
RWNJIFG
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
[Bush just said that Al Qaeda is “public enemy number one” in Iraq. It’s a flat-out lie, and all of his own experts have said it](http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/bush-just-said-that-al-qaeda-is-public.html0
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Five Ways Bush’s Era of Repression Has Stolen Your Liberties Since 9/11
By getalife
July 24, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
The Dems have increased the minimum wage, fought to save health care for children, biggest increase for veterans and many more to come.
The gop obstructs, contempt on hearings on subpoenas and stay the course in Iraq.
The question is what has your party done since the elections?
But the biggest question hitting the mainstream is impeachment. Folks on the left are demanding it due to trashing the Constitution and the rule of law.
Ganzo slipped up today and said there are two more domestic spying programs. The Justice Dept. is corrupt and he should be the first impeached, cheney is three votes away but am sure those votes are there now. Then comes w.
I remember the Dems in the minority holding hearings in the basement and soon we will see the results of those hearings.
Good times for the Dems bad for the gop. The ultimate karma is coming with Bill back in the WH. I am looking forward to seeing your true patriotism when that happens.
I think you are a false patriot and will not support a Dem President in a time of war.
Please prove me wrong.
By Duh stands for Democrats
July 24, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
{{{{{{By IN THE NEWS July 24, 2007 12:32 PM HOW ABOUT THAT MINIMUM WAGE - FIRTS INCREASE IN 10 YEARS! GOOD GOING CONGRESS!}}}}}}
Yeah, yay!
Take the average single mother earning the minimum wage, working forty hours a week for 52 weeks a year.
Extra earnings per year from the minimum wage hike: $1456.
Savings for the last 5 years from the Bush tax cut from 15% to 10% and doubling of the child tax credit to $1000: $5540.
Ever heard the libs say “way to go Mr. President?”
By The Watcher
July 24, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
Sorry Duh,
We libs PROUDLY tell the Mr. President WHERE to go!
By Jesus
July 24, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By Looney Toons
July 24, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
mike should be able to use this for his cartoon tomorrow on the dem debate (from cnn):
“They included a questioner dressed in a Viking outfit, a 5-year-old posing a question about Social Security and a man in a chicken costume.”
I also heard they asked a question if they would be president for minimum wage salary. What a waste of time…
By getalife
July 24, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
You will see a living wage increase with a Dem President and the tax cuts for the rich will be eliminated.
Corporate welfare will eliminated and taxes will not be raised.
No duh, you will hear us say yea w but will hear us say, “way to go, President Clinton.”
Remember the days of peace on properity under President Clinton? Well, those days are coming back.
By getalife
July 24, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Loony toons,
Wait until you see the gop questions.
It will be hilarious.
By The Watcher
July 24, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
Hey, Looney Tunes
You’re too lazy to watch the debates but can pinch out some wisdom anyway?
What a patriot!
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
Hey Popeye! Olive Oil called. That wasn’t spinach you ate last night!
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
“Try setting in a chair, with the temperature around 150 degrees, moving only your feet and hands, and avoiding obstacles while you’re just ‘driving’. Oh and do it for 2-3-4 hours without taking a break.”
NO THANKS!!! That seems like personal torture to me, nothing sporty about that, except maybe the way you smell when you get out. There maybe some something of a “sport” to the driver and the crew, but to the fans? What’s the fun? You are watching cars go round and round in a circle. That’s not fun to me.
We have character flaws for making fun of Nascar fans AS A JOKE?
We can’t make fun of Nascar fans, but you can say this about Democrats:
“Now what does this say about the Democrats? NO friends, Never tell jokes (as they are one) Can Not laugh at some things, AND have a MISERABLE life. “
Was this a joke? NO, it wasn’t!
You are being hypocritical because you say we can’t do something (make fun of a sub-set of people) and then you turn right around and do it (make fun of a sub-set of people).
Look, Say it Ain’t So, Nascar, golf, and other individual sports aren’t for some people, can you accept this? I like sports where it’s NOT all about me — it is all about my team, oh yeah, and there’s running involved.
I think there should always be running involved if it’s defined as a “sport.” And beer afterwards.
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
Fox just reported another indictment for Vick. Count One: Feeding his dogs Scooby Snacks made in China.
Vick’s comment, “I fought with the dogs I had, not the ones I wanted!”
Huh?
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Conservatives use uzis and M-16 rifles to raise cash
By grease monkey
July 24, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
Bosch probably pays $50 for the dealership to change the winshield wipers on his car.
Just a joke Bosch.
By getalife
July 24, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
Hey PF got some new material.
GFY (Good for you).
Looks like Clinton’s withdrawel plan worked.
They should have it ready by the time she takes office because she will withdraw.
By mm
July 24, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this
Wingnut debate questions:
Will you pass an executive order that will allow me to have someone arrested if they do not agree with my wingnut beliefs? F** libs, you know.
Will you eliminate all taxes so that we no longer have a government? We have way too much government, you know.
Will you push for a law that allows for the execution of any woman that wants/needs an abortion? We’ve got to protect those fetuses, you know.
Will you push for a law that prohibits sex? Sex is nasty and immoral, you know.
Will you push for a law that requires employers to be paid by employees? It’s all about profits, you know.
Will you blow up the Middle East with A-bombs? We’re scared of those muslims, you know.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS
Impeachment talk does not scare me. It just makes me wonder why we have so many liberal loons in Congress.
Then I read this blog and know exactly who the loons are that elected them.
Look at NUT JOB. He takes several paragraphs to explain why he is a NUT. He didn’t have to explain. We know he is a liberal.
Take GETALIFE (please). He remembers the peaceful reign of Clinton (and the laughter around the world at that president’s adolescent behavior). Getalife thinks there will be more of the same someday. His stripper friends agree with him. Don’t cha love what comes out of Louisiana? They can even corrupt Republicans. Yes!!
and WATCHER,
We have already told the president where to go. We elected him to go to the WhiteHouse twice and that is fine with me. I guess you didn’t notice while out on your war protest marches with Cindy Sheehan or watching Michael Moore movies. Sorry you are missing so much.
By getalife
July 24, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
“In a “chance meeting” on the Senate floor with Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) in June 2004, Vice President Cheney told Leahy to “f*ck yourself.” According to Leahy’s spokesman, the “exchange began when Leahy crossed the aisle at the photo session and joked to Cheney about being on the Republican side.” Cheney then “‘lashed into’ Leahy for remarks he…made criticizing Iraq contracts won without competitive bidding by Halliburton.”
In the new biography of the Vice President by Stephen Hayes, Cheney claims that the reason he shouted the expletive was because Leahy had been too “close” to him:
Leahy came over and put his arm around me. And he didn’t kiss me but it was close to it. So I flashed and I told him - I dropped the F-bomb on him. … It was heartfelt.”
dick feeding crusty and his ignorant base again.
Geez.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
Dusty, To answer your question, we didn’t go into WWII unilaterally, and before you give me some BS answer about the “coalition” don’t bother. We are in Iraq alone. The one or two troops that some countries have sent is just ridiculous.
In my opinion, war should always be the absolute last option, and NEVER followed by unilateral action.
Why do people like you always compare apples to oranges? WWII? Iraq?
Paul, Back to Darfur. Well, to some degree I think your are right, human suffering does not equal national interest. But as I said, I think when genocide is in play, it is a moral obligation of the world community to do something. There is also the bigger picture of WHY the genocide is happening in the first place. That is usually about control, power, money, and greed.
But, on the other hand, when is it a government’s responsibility to take on moral issues? IMHO, never. One clip I did see of the debate last night were the two lesbians who asked about gay marriage. I would have loved for one candidate to stand up and say, “Well, to be honest, gay marriage isn’t a governmental issue, that’s an issue between you, your God, and your church.” Why should the government get involved when churches can’t even agree. HELLO PEOPLE, there is a thing called seperation of church and state! Which I truly believe. I think that the government trying to intervene in gay marriage is absurd - trying to actually AMEND our CONSTITUTION to ban gay marriage is completely insane.
So, yes, military action for humanitarian reasons are a tough call, that’s why I think it is the UN’s problem, and like I said earlier, I don’t think the UN is all that great, but that’s why they were created, and if properly utilized, could take all the heat off of us trying to save the world a bit, and onto the shoulders of everyone.
By The Watcher
July 24, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
Bandy D@@stRWs
Do you have any thing substantial to add to this discussion or are you just going to continue rambling?
Please go to the pool.
By gtengineer
July 24, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
supreme court forces nixon to hand over tapes on this day in history 33 years ago, the american goverment was able to keep its executive branch in line…
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
It’s a dog eat chinese-made Alpo world.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Bosch,1:53
I think you are doing what is known as “beating around the bush”. I was NOT talking about Iraq. I was talking about your straight forward declaration that you are a “war hating liberal”.
Now you are adding amendments like..if it is really necessary and others will join you THEN war is OK.
I’m glad you were not making decisions before the Revolutionary War when we started a fight for freedom alone. If we had gone by your philosophical rules, we’d still be British.
By Anonymous
July 24, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Even when you think a war is necessary, you can still hate it.
Fortunately, Iraq wasn’t necessary. Unfortunately, we went in anyway.
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Bosch at 1:53 - Here! Here! Well said. Bosch for President!! I also meant to thank you for your kind words the other day.
Dust ball - I’ve noticed a trend with you, dear. You spew rhetoric, we point out where you are wrong, you retaliate with insults. Your methods tend to give rise to argumentation, but you never truly debate the issues. You do sound as if you have a real interest in music…maybe you should stick to that.
uh, p.s., the french were allies during the revolution, no? Is a revolution really the same as unilateral war…no. A revolution is an uprising from within…not invasion from without. Power to the People!! curtsie.
By getalife
July 24, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Specter vs pos ganzo:
S: How can you get approval from sedated Ashcroft?
G: Can I continue?
S: No, answer my question.
G: Obviously there was concern about Ashcroft’s condition. There are no rules governing when Ashcroft decides he is well enough.
S: He had given us AG duties.
G: We knew he was ill…
S: Not making progress. Moving on. Do you think constitution govt can survive if Pres has unilateral authority to reject congress inquiries for Exec Privilege and prevent prosecution of claim?
G: Ongoing matter, I am recused, I cannot answer.
S: I am asking about constitutional law.
G: You are talking about an on-going issue.
S: No. Answer.
G: I won’t answer - it is ongoing controversy and I am recused.
Leahy: Calls for decorum (room is protesting).
S: Won’t pursue. This is hopeless. You are not just AG, you are a lawyer. This is a fundamental issues separate from USA resignations. Other subject. Do you have a conflict regarding the firing of US AGs?
G: Yes.
S: Do you have a conflict of interest about Miers?
G: Yes. I won’t answer.
S: Let’s find one you will answer. How about death penalty case? Charlton contacted your office and said case was not appropriate for dp. Testimony that AG spent 5-10 minutes on the issue…is this accurate?
G: I have no specific recollection of this case. But we have a detailed process for capital case review.
S: I am not interested in that. I want an answer to my question. You don’t remember a case regarding a man’s execution?
G: I have no recollection of the conversation.
S: Do you disagree with the testimony?
G: I can’t agree or disagree.
Geez, this is the gop party working after the 06 election.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Anonymous or faint hearted,2:27
I don’t like killing and bloodshed either but I prize freedom as something worth fighting for.
Too bad you were not in the WhiteHouse and Congress when all those CIA reports were given to us and the British.
Too bad you don’t know that lack of support for the Iraqi War also shows lack of support for the troops we have already committed.
Too bad you are a liberal that doesn’t support the country’s efforts because “You hate war!” Maybe you would rather battle here. That is where the terrorists want it. And that is where they will go when we desert Iraq.
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
Dust ball @ 2:47 - see what I mean? Your post pretty much amounted to, too bad you don’t think like me…I am right, you are wrong. I am good, you are bad…insult, insult. War, WAR! Go WAR!
By The Watcher
July 24, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
I suspect the terorists are watching Bandy D@@steRWs right this very moment…..
The plan is that the minute we start to withdraw, they are going to get JetBlue tickets and fly here to stake out suburban 4 + 2.5’s.
They want our 2 and a half baths!
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
Another Romney Aide Caught Play-Acting — This Time As A “Special Ops” Guy
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
M&Ms,
Don’t give up your day job in the hopes of becoming a debate moderator.
Just to randomly pick out one of your more fatuous and juvenile question “suggestions” - the idea that any restrictions to sexual activity (such as between children and adults, or humans and animals) can somehow be extrapolated as wanting to outlaw sex altogether is manifestly ludicrous.
livelifelikeanidiot,
It’s “hear, hear” not “here, here” dumbass.
You people are hopeless ignoramuses.
Later…
By getalife
July 24, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
We get it crusty.
You support the biggest blunder of all time, wasted lives and billions stolen.
This occupation will end with a Dem President and repair all the damage your boy w has caused.
We will see you not support a Dem President so stop with the fake patriotism.
Geez, your act is old and tiresome.
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
Buy Propaganda - I am humbled beyond belief. Yes, I agree…my spelling error makes me a total dumb a* (actually two words)…why are neo-cons so hateful?
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
Departure retraction!
As Drudge puts it, “Elizabeth Edwards Will give up Tangerines for Global Warming”.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot,2:32
What insults? “Loons” is the only one I can think of and believe me, I have been called names that were not even cute on rest room walls, not to mention “fascist” as well. “Dustball” is nice?
Our French ally was only Lafayette. If there were troops, I never heard of them. You can call the Revolutionary War anything you want. My dictionary defines war as open or declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations. You want to change Webster?
Funny you notice only my conservative replies (just rhetoric) when this blog is filled with liberal loco logic by analchord, Pope rednecks,Nut Job, getalife, etc. etc. I guess you didn’t notice them. Maybe you should direct your own interests instead of mine since you have tunnel vision.
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
raiseanidiot,
That was not a “spelling error”. And “dumbass” is one word, not two, like “Jackass”.
Now perhaps you could attempt to define “neo-con”, since I guarantee that you don’t have a clue what the word actually means.
By IN THE NEWS
July 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
In the final campaigns of 1781, French and American troops, aided by the French fleet, forced the surrender of British commander Lord Cornwallis (1738-1805) to George Washington (1732-1799) at Yorktown in Virginia.
DUH IS FOR WHO EXACTLY?
By getalife
July 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Hate is all they have left.
Let them stew in their hatred and be miserable for the rest of their pathetic lives.
For the rest of us, I see a much brighter future for this country.
The long, national nightmare is winding down and hope Americans have learned their lesson and never vote gop again. Never.
By Whats A NeoCon
July 24, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
this will define it
[this is extra info] (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/NewWorldOrder/BloodMoneyPNACWRPitt.html)
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
Dust ball - facist is an adequate description, dust ball is just, well call it a term of endearment. Maybe if you mixed some real issues in with your insults you would not stick out so much. We were discussing the difference between unilateral war and real world conflict…I’m not sure what point your 3:14 was supposed to make. As I said, perhaps if you peppered your posts with real issues your insults wouldn’t look so childish.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot,2:53
Why are you answering comments in response to Anonymous? And what’s with the “yah yah yah war war war” etc. bit? And when did I say “you don’t like me”? The answer is NEVER.
You’d better write lines for someone else ‘cause you’re kinda loose on the lingo today.
By France
July 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Madame’ Dusty, This is for you:
France involvement in the American Revolution
Believe, me, mon chéri, there was much blood of great Frenchmen spilled for your country. It makes me sad, that now you ridicule me and won’t even say French Fries, when if it weren’t for the sacrifice of my many young brave soldiers, you would be drinking Earl Grey Tea at 4:00 each day, eating scones, eating really bad overcooked meat, and speaking with really funny accents!
Au revoir!
By DebbieDoRight
July 24, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
[[Back to Darfur. Well, to some degree I think your are right, human suffering does not equal national interest. But as I said, I think when genocide is in play, it is a moral obligation of the world community to do something. There is also the bigger picture of WHY the genocide is happening in the first place. That is usually about control, power, money, and greed.]]
Bosch: I’m apt to agree with Paul. Darfur’s problems should not involve the world. Whenever any other country tires to get involved in another’s business, (VietNam, Somalia, Bosnia), the more powerful country is greeted at first as a hero, but after a couple of months the heroes turn into zeroes; mostly because of a lack of knowledge for the customs of the country they are in. But predominantly because the helpee will start to feel like the helper is trying to rule or tke over their country and resentment starts setting in.
When the US troops imposed strict curfews in Somalia, (to curb looting and random violence by warlords), the local populace took that as the US trying to govern their lives — completely ignoring the fact that it was for their own safety.
On the flip side of that, US troops started FORGETTING who were the bad guys and who were the good guy populace. They started treating everyone as a “suspect”. Of course, you know what happened afterwards.
Sometimes it’s best NOT to intercede. Cuba always come to mind when I think of intervening in another country’s politics. Even though the press, the US, the war department, Cuban dissidents, etc.; paint Castro as a violent dictator, however its the CUBAN CITIZENS that are the ones keeping Castro in power. The people of Cuba outnumber the military 3 to 1; if they wanted to overthrow Castro, they would’ve done it by now. Instead, they treat him as an honored and revered uncle who commands respect and admiration.
Castro will never fall, because the people of Cuba keep him in power.
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Vick is the world’s first triple threat. He can run, pass, and fetch.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot,3:28
If you can’t comprehend my 3:14 post then your “raised an idiot” was successful. Your responses indicate no “train of thought” whatsoever. Have fun amd keep trying.
By We all comprehended
July 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
you knew jack about the French…
Dusty you are too pathetic
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
Neoconservative – A “neocon” is more inclined than other conservatives toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional morality and pro-business policies.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 3:32 PM |Why are you answering comments in response to Anonymous? And what’s with the “yah yah yah war war war” etc. bit? And when did I say “you don’t like me”? The answer is NEVER.
Dust ball - what I said, “too bad you don’t THINK like me”. I was originally responding to Bosch’s answer to you about WWII and unilateral war…and commenting on your venomous 1:47…along with your remarks about “war-hating liberals”. Now if that’s clear in your thick head,would you actually like to debate the values vs. evils of war or would you rather just continue attacking my person? Don’t bother…I know the answer. I’m an idiot, dumbass, jackass, war-hating liberal…I got it…blah blah blah, bah baah baaaaaah
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Blank will speak in five minutes about vick. I’ve got an itch to hear this.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
DDR, “the more powerful country is greeted at first as a hero, but after a couple of months the heroes turn into zeroes; mostly because of a lack of knowledge for the customs of the country they are in. But predominantly because the helpee will start to feel like the helper is trying to rule or tke over their country and resentment starts setting in.”
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY YOU NEED BACK UP.
I really don’t even like to compare Iraq to Darfur, because it is completely two seperate things. With Iraq, we went in, at first, I think, I’ve lost track, because of WMD….then it was the big bad dictator…..now he’s gone…..now, we are there because we are fighting the terrorist there……now we can’t leave because there will be mass slaughter…..and as I said the other day, NOW the UN doesn’t want to go in because we have completely alienated every country in the world against helping us, and why should they send in soldiers to be slaughtered to fix a mess we started. We lied to them, or rather manipulated data to fit our needs, and then we dismissed their warnings saying that the UN didn’t have the authority to intervene, etc. etc.
And while I’m not trying to say the the situation in Darfur is so simple, it’s just straight forth genocide and we need to stop it, nothing is ever that simple, what I am saying is that if military action is needed to stop genocide, it should NEVER be ONE country to take on that responsibility.
Like I said earlier, and so many times, that is the UN’s job. And while I think the UN has lost some of it’s power, because as I said earlier, we are real quick to march in and take control, that should really change, IMHO.
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 4:07 PM
EXACTLY!! HEAR, FREAKIN HEAR!!
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Raisedanidiot, It’s okay to be a war-hating liberal. I’m ignoring Dusty for the rest of the day, it’s just more healthy for me that way.
I really think that a lot of liberals are kind of hypocritical about war though, they see nothing wrong with rushing into battle for humanitarian reasons, to save the poor from genocide, because it’s the moral thing to do, when really, IMHO, governments should rarely intervene is issues of morality, and stick to the basics of what it is set up to do.
In the tragic cases of genocide, then I really do think it is the responsibility on a global scale to try and put a stop to it, hopefully, through diplomatic means or sanctions if necessary, but if that doesn’t work, then yes, militarily, but again never unilaterally.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Madame France @ 3:40,
Pardon moi, mon ami. You are correct. Lafayette was not alone. France is said to have distant and naval operations in the Revolutionary War. Rochambeau sent 6,000 soldiers so I am sorry I forgot to mention them. Alors!! My apologies. (I won’t even mention that France was angry with the British and decided to “go” with the colonies.)
I promise to repent by eating many croissants and crepes for forgiveness. Viva la France!!
By What a load of Ca Ca
July 24, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
””“Our French ally was only Lafayette. If there were troops, I never heard of them. “”“
By Dusty
Then later
“Rochambeau sent 6,000 soldiers so I am sorry I forgot to mention them. “”
also by Dusty
LOOK! Dusty does a GONZO!
She forgot something she never heard of.
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
Did Dusty just admit she was wrong? Help! My eyes are bleeding!!!
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
Raisedanidiot, Like I told Paul earlier, the only question I saw on the debate last night were the two lesbians who asked the candidates if they would “allow us to marry…..each other” I thought that was really funny.
Kuchic(something - I dont’ know how to spell his name) came the close to how I feel about that.
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
It says WE the PEOPLE, not straight, gay, man, or woman, but “people.” And after that sets up the basic responsibilities of the government.
I think it’s a really great document and to the ultra-right evangelicals who are trying to spoil it by making a freaking AMENDMENT to it, telling us who and who can not get married, is truly disturbing.
Those of us who are truly interested in preserving the Constitution should really be afraid of that.
By France
July 24, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
Madame Dusty, AND you must stop calling those yummy bits of fried potatoes “Freedom Fries” and call them what they really are: Pommes frites, or in America, “French Fries.”
Never speak ill of the French again!
By raisedanidiot
July 24, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
Bosch - Those of us who are truly interested in preserving the Constitution should really be afraid of that.
Believe me, I am…I’d love to tell you more about my court case, unfortunately it would reveal my identity. What really sickens me is that the Bushies don’t really care one way or another what happens to the gay population, they’re just using gay marriage as a diversion tactic. Same for stem cell research…they seed fear in the common populace to divert real issues at hand then exploit their support…its totally nauseating. Refusing the rights of gay couples to marry is totally Nazi-like! Maybe we should only allow blond-headed, blue-eyed aryans to propagate. If free-thinking Americans are not afraid…they should be…they’re coming for you next. All you war-hating liberals better get your passports in order!
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
A la Madame France,
I stopped calling those pomme frites French fries long ago when I realized how many calories were involved. Thereafter I never asked for them under any name. Ah but I love those French wines..especially Manichevitz!!Viva la Lafayette!! (I was going to sing Le Marselais for you but I forget the words, also the spelling.) Bon jour, madame!
By Lord Help Us
July 24, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
Un-freaking-believable!!!
Bush is now desperately selling the continuation of war in Iraq by pointing out how incompetent his Administration has been in dealing with Al Qaeda ‘Central.’
President George W. Bush argued forcefully today that an Al Qaeda-affiliated group in Iraq is linked tightly to the central Al Qaeda leadership, and that for American forces to leave Iraq without defeating the terror group would be “dangerous for the world and disastrous for America.”
So, 6 YEARS AFTER 9/11, Osama Bin Laden is powerful enough and operationally capable of killing our soliders AND undermining our efforts in Iraq (where he had no influence or operational capability prior to Bush’s invasion).
Why, in heaven’s name, does anybody with a brain support this immoral and incompetent President?
By getalife
July 24, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Has anybody ever met a person dumber than Dusty?
Or anybody that drinks that swill Manichevitz?
Nasty.
By Dusty
July 24, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
Ah Madame Francais,
Your noble group of doctors Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors without Borders) has just notified me that a meningitis epidemic is raging in Uganda.
This is the first meningitis epidemic in the districts of Arua and Koboko in more than 10 years. Your doctors are working furiously with treatment and vaccinations. Merci beaucoup, dear Madame. You have some very fine doctors.
getalife,
I finish off one bottle of Manichevitz every year. Love that fine wine! You just don’t know what is good.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
I just had a thought: How many Israeli troops have been fighting with us on this war on terrorism?
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
Continuation of thought: How many Israeli troops have been fighting with us in Iraq and Afghanistan?
By Analchord
July 24, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
The israelis have been fighting the arabs for 10K years, man.
Google the kurds. That’s about the only thing that can save you and your credibility here, man.
By Bosch
July 24, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
Specifically, not some general term of thousands of years, how many Israelis are fighting with us in Iraq and Afghanistan TODAY?
By GodHatesTrash
July 24, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
I figured that pig Dusty was a MD20/20 slattern.
Or Thunderbird.
Trash.
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
France,
Yes, it is absolutely true that without the French and their own particular struggles with the Brits we would not have won the American Revolution.
However, and I know this has been stated millions of times, if not for the contribution of thousands of Americans, many of whom lie beneath rows and rows of crosses in Normandy, you would be speaking German.
Of course none of this has a thing to do with the Oil for Food program, where Frenchmen were beneficiaries of bribes from Saddam, and thus uncooperative in our efforts to depose him.
Luckily for us, Monsieur Sarkozy was just elected and, unlike his predecessors, he is not predisposed to look down his Gallic nose at us as if we were unenlightened peasants (like the so-called “elites” in this country).
I’d be curious as to whether or not “France” celebrates or mourns this changing of the guard.
By getalife
July 24, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
More like a bottle for breakfast.
Geez.
By WTF?
July 24, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
Bosch is a frvcking idiot.
The Israeli army is busy protecting their homeland from Hamas and Hezbollah you moronic freak.
Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists.
By Elitist
July 24, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this
“…look down his Gallic nose at us as if we were unenlightened peasants.”
Are you suggesting that the new French head of state is made of gallium, a rare, steel-gray, trivalent metallic element?
You are an uneducated peasant, you ridiculous twit.
By More bang for the fvcked
July 24, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this
Slice through this crust, though, and it turns out that France’s moves have as much to do with the {{{Gallic elite’s}}} fear of losing its remaining threads of political and economic influence in the Muslim world as it does with knee-jerk anti-Americanism.
Not to be confused with the Scottish Gaelic unless your a liberal of course.
Like shooting liberal fish in a barrel.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
By Buy Danish
July 24, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this
I’m guessing that it could have been one of our resident “elite scientists” who enthralled us with his irrelevant description of “gallium”.
It is a “nagging thought” to think that these “elites” have never heard of Gaul or the word “Gallic”, or even of “Charles de Gaulle”.
That was so last century, I suppose!
Quelle dommage.