Mike Luckovich

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

Bin Laden has been living the Life of Riley while Bush has been distracted by “spreading democracy” in the Middle East.

By Lord Help Us

July 19, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this

Yes, the Bush strategy…the Iraq war is worth thousands of lives and trillions of dollars because WE MUST prevent Al Qaeda from gaining safe haven like they had in Afghanistan…

But, at the same time, support the creation of Al Qaeda’s safe haven in Pakistan…

Sad…

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

That was a funny one ML. Until you stop and realize that Al Qeada isn’t the problem in Iraq.

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 19, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

If you called for an all night filibuster in the Senate, a stunt designed to sneak through anti war legislation that the president would have vetoed anyway, and it was a miserable, ridiculous failure that totally crashed and burned, what headlines would you expect your toadies in the lib media to put on their front page:

Vote allows Bush more time on Iraq-Atlanta Journal Constitution

It is literally amazing that the AJC thinks so little of the mental capabilities of their readership, what does this say about all of you dhummis on the left that make up that readership? Even the most stunted moron passing by the news stand knows what a total blowout the democrats are in Congress. Who are you trying to fool? Yourselves?

{{{{{{{The man responsible for ferrying messages between Osama bin Laden and Iraqi insurgents is in U.S. custody and is providing “significant insights” into the workings of al-Qaida in Iraq, the U.S. military said Wednesday. (It’s like Bin Laden doesn’t have time to get in the family pick up truck and go round instructing his suicide squads where to blow up at, so he needs a “messenger,” my goodness, how much time do you libs spend spinning these things?) Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner, the top American military spokesman in Iraq, said the July 4 capture of Khalid al-Mashhadani !!!!!!!!!has yielded evidence of the relationship between bin Laden’s al-Qaida and the group known as al-Qaida in Iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!}}}}}}}}}

You reckon?

By Bionic Blonde

July 19, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Incompetence begets incompetence—the current administration in its abridged form. It really does matter who is elected president because not everyone (GWB) is up to the job.

By Anonymous

July 19, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

The only problem we have in Congress is that we didn’t elect ENOUGH Democrats… and ones with stiffer spines to really stand up for America (which, these days, means against Bush).

By Gpayne

July 19, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

Republicans are so mindless but fortunately the American people are not. The reason that the Democratic congress can’t get anything done is because once a bill is passed little prince george will veto it and it will take more votes than there are democrats in congress to over-ride the veto. But the vast majority of Americans are not fooled by the mindless ranting of Limbutt, Handiddy, and O’Really. Meanwhile back on the ranch in Crawford, the drugs and bourbon are flowing freely…

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 19, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Very sad, but true ‘toon.

Dead or Alive or Whatever.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Good toon! Location, location, location.

Very sad, indeed, Mrs. G.

I’m going to remember your quote too, “Dead or Alive or Whatever.” You might also add the word “yawn” afterwards because Bush’s mantras are getting quite boring.

BTW, I just took the on-line Harry Potter quiz that was on the front page of the AJC.com page and scored 100%. Should I be embarassed?

By Neocon

July 19, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Loyal Republicans (like John Agresto, author of “Mugged by Reality”) know that the war in Iraq is failing. And this academic has a fairly good take on why it will probably continue to fail. The problem with the current debate is just that the complexities of the causes for failure are not and have not been discussed in detail.

In the interim, both Republicans who oppose the timelines for withdrawal and the Democrats who favor it, are doing the American people a disservice NOT to elevate the level of the debate so that the American people can at least judge whether or not this administration is intelligent and far-sighted enough to orchestrate the establishment of a stable government, secure civil society, functional economy, open educational system, and DEMOCRATIC not THEOCRATIC legislative body. One doubts very seriously if the military, the president, the congress really spends enough time trying to understand how to fix this problem honestly and protect U. S. troops. Gridlock, gridlock, gridlock. I don’t care who gets credit for fixing the problem. Just share with us, the American people, the strategy for securing and stabilizing Iraq; perhaps then, we can get beyond the petty bickering. But no single candidate, Republican or Democrat, has articulated a vision for the Middle East that can be sold to the American people or the international community.

Where are the thinkers when we most need them? Not in government apparently.

By w00t

July 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

Oh, this is too funny!

Oh, and for the regular Neocons, in regards to today’s cartoon: Don’t say we didn’t warn you…

How’s Iraq workin’ out for you?

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

We let Osama slip through our army’s encirclement by treasonous deals with Afghan warlords and tribal nincompoops.

Now we’ve the devil to pay. We’re stuck in Iraq for at least a generation, maybe two or three, and we wont be able to respond to any al queda attack anywhere.

We are sitting ducks. Who’s that lame duck prez, you know, the one who attacked the wrong country…..(“Attack Iraq”)…..huh?….you know, the one who mispronounces words…..(“Attack Iraq”)…..I dont know…..(“ATTACK IRAQ”)….oh, you know, the goofy prez who used the word crusade which reignited moslem fears of a christian takeover of the middle east….(“Attack IRAQ”)…..beats me……”ATTACK IRAQ”!!!!!

By SarahConnah

July 19, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

The Bush Reich isn’t interested in eliminating OBL. Why would you inflict damage on your own boogie man?

Curtsie

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

{{Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner, the top American military spokesman in Iraq, said the July 4 capture of Khalid al-Mashhadani !!!!!!!!!has yielded evidence of the relationship between bin Laden’s al-Qaida and the group known as al-Qaida in Iraq!!!!!!!}}

DUH— once again, you conveniently leave out the most important info: General Bergner has now stated that this “top leader” in Iraq was really a foreign ACTOR!

On Wednesday, the chief United States military spokesman here, Brig. Gen. Kevin J. Bergner, provided a new explanation for Mr. Baghdadi’s ability to escape attack: he never existed. General Bergner told reporters that a senior Iraqi insurgent captured this month said that the elusive Mr. Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose declarations on audiotape were read by a man named Abu Abdullah al-Naima.

DUH is for Andy-Duhll!

By gtengineer

July 19, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

this was a great cartoon, sounds just like dubya the dimwit….

with republicans defecting everyday, it’s amazing that this administration just sits on their thumbs.

good for the liberals i suppose, just whatever it takes to get this countries troops out of iraq and to the real front line.

a colossal failure like the iraq war needs no ceremonial exit, just an exit… and hopefully the american public will see what happens when you allow this caliber of human being to lead us.

By David Vitter (R-epugnant - LA)

July 19, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

The point is -— I’m a pretty good looking guy and I’ve got money and power. I don’t have to pay for it. But the nice thing about hookers: you don’t have to please ‘em. You know what I mean? I mean, it’s nice to please a lady, but as you get older, you really just want to be serviced by a pro. And Deborah Palfrey had her a full stable of fine mares, if you know what I mean.

I got into politics because a friend of mine who is a big time corporate attorney thought I’d be good at it. He said I should be a Republican. He explained to me all about crony capitalism and told me I’d make great connections and scads of money. And all I had to do was represent the interests of my friends and donors. They’d tell me what to do.

It was a totally sweet deal. But he didn’t tell me about the moralism part —- about how you’ve got to be all about family values, and you’ve got to be for teen abstinence and against the queers and porn and abortion and Janet Jackson’s nipples. And that’s because the common Christian folks down in Louisiana don’t care that much about whether my financial supporters make butt-loads of money or not. They care about pretending to hate sex -— like it tells you to do in The Bible.

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

{{I don’t care who gets credit for fixing the problem. Just share with us, the American people, the strategy for securing and stabilizing Iraq; perhaps then, we can get beyond the petty bickering.}}

Neocon— there is no “securing and stabilizing Iraq” in the foreseeable future. Bush has created a disaster that won’t be fixed for a long time, if even in our own lifetimes. And he doesn’t care— he has stated many times that it’s for the “historians” to figure out in the future.

Interesting how Bush likes to blame “historians”, when he never wanted to listen to historians about how occupations of foreign lands has NEVER worked out for the occupiers. The occupiers always end up having to leave the foreign country and letting those countries fix the mess themselves.

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

“U.S. military officials have announced the deaths of four more American soldiers — killed, along with their Iraqi interpreter, by a roadside bomb aimed at their patrol in east Baghdad.”

By gtengineer

July 19, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Senator Vitter is just like every other republican slime bag… the only good i see out of all the republican corruption, lies, and illegal wars is that we’ll have two terms of Hillary out of it!

it ALWAYS takes a clinton to clean up after a bush!

By mm

July 19, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Duh,

You are so short sited. The outcome of the vote was never in doubt. The Dems new they would never garner enough votes. They were just parading the moron Republicans in front of the p** off voting public. Lining them up like ducks at a shooting gallery at the county fair. Can’t wait till 08.

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 19, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

{{{{{{The NIE also gives the lie to the notion that the gang calling itself al Qaeda in Iraq is somehow distinct and independent from the one the U.S. went to war with after 9/11. The recent arrest and interrogation of a top figure in the Iraqi outfit indicates that the original al Qaeda leaders “continue to provide directions, they continue to provide a focus for operations, they continue to flow foreign fighters into Iraq,” according to Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner, a U.S. military spokesman.}}}}}}

As you may have heard, that today, we announced the capture of the senior Iraqi leader of al Qaeda-Iraq, and that follows in recent weeks the detention of some four different emirs, as they’re called, the different area leaders of al Qaeda, six different foreign fighter facilitators, and a couple dozen other leaders, in addition to killing or capturing hundreds of other al Qaeda-Iraq operatives. {Excellent read.}

That’s a bunch of “messengers.”

{{{{{{After the amendment (the specifics of which Mr. Levin had difficulty explaining to reporters) went down to defeat, Mr. Reid petulantly pulled the defense bill from the floor. The failure to pass this bill means there will be no funding for modernization of soldiers’ equipment, including Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected trucks for soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan; a 3.5 percent raise for American men and women in the military; and funding to assist wounded veterans. Perhaps it’s not the best way for Mr. Reid and Co. to illustrate how Democrats “support the troops.”}}}}}}

{{{{{{ Bergner said al-Mashhadani had told interrogators that al-Baghdadi is a “fictional role” created by al-Masri and that an actor with an Iraqi accent is used for audio recordings of speeches posted on the Web. “In his words, the Islamic State of Iraq is a front organization that masks the foreign influence and leadership within Al Qaeda in Iraq in an attempt to put an Iraqi face on the leadership of Al Qaeda in Iraq,” Bergner said.}}}}}}

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

As a follow-up to our discussion yesterday about today’s Republican Chickenhawks, I was trying hard to remember:

Was it Rush, or was it O’Reilly, who claimed that he had @ss sores during the Viet Nam war and could not fight that “noble cause”?

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

{{“In his words, the Islamic State of Iraq is a front organization that masks the foreign influence and leadership within Al Qaeda in Iraq in an attempt to put an Iraqi face on the leadership of Al Qaeda in Iraq,” Bergner said.}}

DUH— do you even read what you post??? Al Qaeda in Iraq is using FOREIGN ACTORS posing as Iraqis…

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

RUSH HAD PILES

By getalife

July 19, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

That bill will not go into effect until October.

Duh.

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

nobody wants to die, but americans are willing for a just cause, like saving private ryan, or avenging the arizona, but when you are faced with a situation where not one person in the administration can define a mission for US troops in Iraq and not one general has a grasp of the reality on the ground except to describe tactical ups and downs, then my friend, you have the ripe conditions for revolution and change.

Americans everywhere: I call for a million patriot march on washington…..(er, dr. analchord, shouldn’t you call for a larger march, I mean, a million man march isn’t exactly a lot of people these days….besides, they’ve already done a million man march)…..Okay, I call for a mill…..one hundred million man march on washington!

It…could….WORK!!!

Lets first try to define a mission for our Army in Iraq. What? Why? When? How? Who?

We have a country to save and a world to convince.

.

By Lord Help Us

July 19, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Yes, Andy…while the Bush Administration has been steadily making things worse in Iraq (year after year after year) they, at the same time, have allowed:

-the real Al Qaeda to reconstitute itself in Afghanistan and Pakistan -a group calling itself Al Qaeda in Iraq to form and become the real Al Qaeda’s proxy and a heckuva training/recruiting tool.

You seem to take a bizarre pride in this most recent evidence of the increased threat to America.

Why, oh why, do hate America so much?

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

War games show Bush wrong on Iraq pullout; Qaeda unlikely to succeed

By SarahConnah

July 19, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Oh goody, goody!

“We” caught an al Qaeda operative who has told “us” that (drum roll please) “The Surge” has them folks “on the run”.

Oh goody, goody!

What? This information came from the Bush controlled media ‘folks’?

Oh!

Never mind!

Curtsie!

By Funny morons®

July 19, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Goldie 9:36

I can see why you are confused. It was Rush who claimed that he had @ss sores. And O’Reilly IS an @ss sore. Well, so is Rush but that’s another story.

By getalife

July 19, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Duh brings up a great point on how the gop does not care about the troops being killed.

Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected trucks are the solution for IED’s but four and half years later, there are a couple of these in Iraq.

There is one small company cranking these vehicles out and they are way behind.

Just another gop outrage pointed out by Duh.

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

AL QUEDA is a STATE OF MIND.

It’s revolution in the air. It’s religious fervor mixed with Machiavellian Hegemony attached to a proximity fuse……BOOM!

Latest Osama video translation..from CIA leak….(read MC ROVE)

“I am Osama Bin Laden, and I will put KY Jelly in your Christian Annointing Oil! Then you will see more altar boys joining al queda!!! We will take over your country from the pews! You will see!”

“We are winning in Afghanistan! Winning in Pakistan! Winning in iraq!!! If only I could win at Keno!”

“The great satan is weakening! All you think about is Paris Hilton. I think about her too, but only how she would wear underneath a burka. I wonder….(aides hands seen on video slapping bin laden out of it)…oh yeah! Anyway, soon I will be the president of America, cause you will all surrender when you see how ferocious our mustachio’d women look. I am planning a playboy internet website with only Al QUeda women wearing self propelled strap ons and percussion bras…You will all surrender soon!!”

“You will see! It will not be pretty.”

Well, I have to go, I hear the B-52’s overhead. And they aint singin’ love shack, baby!” (end of video)

I really hate that osama bin laden guy, man.

Take heart, America. We’ve got a country to save, and a world to convince.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 19, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Maybe you can get away with calling Rush a wimp because he bowed out of the war because he had a cyst on his azz, but leave Cheney alone as he had a more serious condition he termed “other priorties.” Of course Bush can be excused as well because he had a very serious diagnosis called “connections.”

But for these serious afflictions I am quite certain that these brave and great men would have fought and perhaps died for the cause. Am I also certain that the country would have been better for it.

RWNJIFG

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Osama’s second in command, that owly looking guy who puts out all the videos is really weird. He reminds me of that old lady on cable who talks about sex issues, the new dr. ruth, you know….

The last time I saw her was when she was showing what a buttplug was. I always assumed a buttplug was very small, and looked like a pacifier. WRONG!

It’s a humungous monstrous thing. with batteries and vibrating buttons.

I am so inexperienced and naive. I dont want to know anymore about buttplugs.

The very idea. How bored do you have to be? Who is this lady, anyway, and why is she al aqueda-ing our children with satan’s sex toys?

Witch hunt! Salem days R here again!!

Throw the witch in the well! (Leave the buttplug, hide the canolis!) Godfather, part duh.

By getalife

July 19, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

“Spc. Gabriel Vassell told Smith, “…We have people up there in Congress with the brain of a 2-year-old who don’t know what they are doing, they don’t experience it. I challenge the president or anyone who has us for 15 months to ride alongside me. I’ll do another 15 months if he comes out here and rides along with me every day. I’ll do 15 more months. They don’t even have to pay me extra.”

Bwa.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 19, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Another liberal traitor:

Spc. Gabriel Vassell, “…We have people up there in Congress with the brain of a 2-year-old who don’t know what they are doing, they don’t experience it. I challenge the president or anyone who has us for 15 months to ride alongside me. I’ll do another 15 months if he comes out here and rides along with me every day. I’ll do 15 more months. They don’t even have to pay me extra.”

Why don’t these people just shut up and die instead of emboldening the enemy? Can Buy Danish, Dusty or Duh take this guys place over there so we have someone there who believes in the cause and who loves his or her country? I’d do it but I’ve got an azz cyst, “other priorities” AND “connections” so its really just impossible for me.

RWNJIFG

By w00t

July 19, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Draft a Republican!

By The Watcher

July 19, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Draft ALL Republicans!

(Oh, we won’t have to, they are so patriotic they are enlisting in droves and the liberal media just isn’t reporting it.)

I made a funny.

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

The war was unnecessary. And foolish and a rash move, and it was also a blunder on the world stage, where every living creature is ultimately affected and infected.

It’s the blunder for the ages.

We aint nevah gonna git outta iraq.

By rushncap

July 19, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

LOL! That is a great ‘toon, Mike! Awesome.

@@ — your last post last night: did you dip into the cooking sherry? You’re usually vile, but you’re also usually lucid. What on Earth was that??

By Buy Danish

July 19, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

GoldieDhimmi,

Regarding the Iraqi actor, the larger POINT which clearly went over your little head, is that, contrary to the assertions of dimwits like yourself, the “insurgency” in Iraq is not fueled by “Sectarian violence” and local Iraqis, but by Bin Laden’s hierarchy.

Bin Laden did a great job of duping gullible fools such as yourself into thinking that Iraq is just a local problem and we can surrender without any harm to our national security or the fragile stability of the entire Middle East region.

It’s too much to hope that you’re clear now that this is not a localized “insurgency”.

Keep this paragraph and the group called Ansar al Sunna in mind for a post to follow:

Mr. Mashadani is the most senior Iraqi operative in Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. According to some reports, he served in Saddam Hussein’s Special Republican Guard and later became an insurgent with the group>>>>> Ansar Al Sunna.<<<< About two and a half years ago, Mr. Mashadani joined Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, where he served as the Media Emir, or publicity director, the general said. /General Bergner said that Mr. Mashadani was also an intermediary between Mr. Masri in Iraq and Mr. bin Laden and Mr. Zawahri, whom the Bush administration says are remotely supporting and guiding Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia.

By w00t

July 19, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

BD, they caught that guy OVER TWO WEEKS AGO. They only released the information when they felt the need to. The need was to further politicize that the Surge was working and that 8 of the 18 benchmarks (a failing grade, I might add) were a sign that “progress” was being made.

This war is falling apart so fast that they can’t even keep up with the spin.

By Buy Danish

July 19, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

WooT,

Yes indeedy, they sometimes wait before they blab this information to the press so that they can gather intelligence from the captured enemy.

Kerist you’re a dumb dhimmi dumbass.

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Nobody on radio or tv has spun the war correctly. They still think that we started the Iraqi civil war or that the iraqi civil war started with the bombing of that mosque 18 months ago.

THE IRAQI CIVIL WAR IS 10K years old.

It will last another 10K years.

THATS WHY WE AINT NEVAH GONNA GIT OUTTA IRAQ.

Do you folks see it now? We are stuck. I challenge you all to define a scenario where we could leave iraq.

Know what?

U cant.

By Truthman

July 19, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Nailed it, Mike!!

That is the entire Alpha and Omega of the Chimperor’s War of Capitalist Aggression.

Neo-conmen and women will never understand because they can’t function without a boogeyman - someone they can feel superior to and vent their frustrations of their terrible life on!

P.S. Liberals are the only true lovers of America!!

By getalife

July 19, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Talk about about dumbas-ses:

“Military officials have said in background briefings that al-Qaeda is responsible for about 15 percent of the attacks”

Duh.

By The Watcher

July 19, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

For Emphasis

The administration says “satisfactory progress” was made on 8 out of 18 benchmarks. They did not say MET.

Also, the satisfactory progress line is being strongly disputed

By w00t

July 19, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

BD, LOL, you’re cute…

I guess wars take nearly 5 years because we’re getting information from every Iraqi on where the WMD’s are or where Osama is…

Oh wait, thats right. NOT IN IRAQ!

By Buy Danish

July 19, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

This will be my last post for the day as I cannot tolerate the AJC’s server losing my posts.

One more time -

Under the headline “Insurgents form political front to plan for US pullout -Leaders of Iraqi groups say attacks will go on until Americans leave” we learn, err, are told that {{{Seven of the most important Sunni-led insurgent organisations fighting the US occupation in Iraq have agreed to form a public political alliance with the aim of preparing for negotiations in advance of an American withdrawal, their leaders have told the Guardian.}}}

In their first interview with the western media since the US-British invasion of 2003, leaders of three of the insurgent groups - responsible for thousands of attacks against US and Iraqi armed forces and police - said they would continue their armed resistance until all foreign troops were withdrawn from Iraq, and denounced al-Qaida for sectarian killings and suicide bombings against civilians.

But wait! Are we to believe this unadulterated BS that they are not linked to AQ?

{{{Speaking in Damascus, the spokesmen for the three groups - the 1920 Revolution Brigades, Ansar al-Sunna and Iraqi Hamas - said they planned to hold a congress to launch a united front and appealed to Arab governments, other governments and the UN to help them establish a permanent political presence outside Iraq.}}}

So they are in Syria, and ANSAR AL-SUNNA is one of the groups involved (not to mention Hamas, but I digress). Could that be the same Ansar Al-Sunna that the head of AQ in Iraq belonged to?

How sweet that they want to go to the UN!

Maybe George Galloway will fund their operations, using the cash he got from Saddam Hussein as bribe money.

By Funny morons®

July 19, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

What Condi reportedly said was this: “As I was telling my husb—” before abruptly breaking off and correcting herself: “As I was telling President Bush.”

I wonder if Laura knows?

By Funny morons®

July 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Thanks Chimpy

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

{{This will be my last post for the day as I cannot tolerate the AJC’s server losing my posts.}}

Buh-bye Donut! It’s a conspiracy of the Librul Media that your posts are getting “lost”, ya know. We’re all weeping for you.

By Analchord

July 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

isaidweaintnevahgonnagitouttairaq!

By Pure Joy and Bliss

July 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

This will be my last post for the day as I cannot tolerate the AJC’s server losing my posts.

AHHHHHHHHHH!

By AmVet

July 19, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

July 18 2007

FORMER COMMANDER OF THE FIRST INFANTRY DIVISION IN IRAQ PRAISES SENATOR HAGEL FOR IRAQ VOTE

Lifelong Republican, Major General (ret.) John Batiste says vote was “the right thing to do for the troops, the military, and America”

NEW YORK - Former division commanding General in Iraq, Major General (Ret.) John Batiste, today praised Senator Chuck Hagel for his vote to change course in Iraq, despite significant political pressure to do otherwise.

“As a lifelong Republican, I’m proud of the true conservative credentials that Senator Hagel showed today,” said Batiste.

“Without a real diplomatic, economic, and political surge in Iraq, the President is continuing to sacrifice American life and limb on a conflict that cannot be militarily resolved. Our incredible all-volunteer force can not sustain the current pace and America desperately needs a focused Middle East strategy. Conservatives never have stood for using our military for nation building or refereeing civil wars, but unfortunately this is precisely what the administration has done. Senator Hagel’s vote was one that is consistent with a true, conservative, pro-military policy.”

The Levin-Reed Amendment to the Defense Authorization Act, which Senator Hagel voted for, calls for a responsible redeployment from the war in Iraq to be completed by the first half of next year.

“This bill will allow our military to refit and rearm, and get us ready for the long term struggle against global Islamic extremism that we face in the years ahead,” Batiste added. “Let no one criticize Senator Hagel for this vote. It is strong, it is pro-military, and pro-security.”

Major General Batiste served in the United States Army for 31 years. His final assignment in the Army was commanding general of the 1st Infantry Division from August 2002-June 2005. During this timeframe, the “Big Red One” conducted successful peace enforcement operations in Kosovo and combat operations in Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom II. In Iraq, the division was deployed to north-central Iraq from February 2004 until February 2005 and included 22,000 soldiers from active and reserve component units from throughout the United States.

By Lord Help Us

July 19, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

BD, Good Lord!

Can you possibly understand that IF (big IF) you swallow the spin (which you obviously have)…

IF YOU Swallow that BUNK…you have a situation IN IRAQ in which Bin Laden is, and has been, directing terrorist activity in Iraq, is operationally capable of wreaking havoc and killing thousands of our troops.

Are you so DESPERATE and IMMORAL that you are actually promoting a scenario where Bin Laden (six years after 9/11) is directing terrorist activity in Iraq that is killing thousands of our troops?

Sad…

By Truthman

July 19, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

This applies to most of the Republican Chickenhawks on this blog!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/generation-chickenhawk-tb56676.html

As always, it’s easier and safer to cheerlead from the sidelines than to put you honor where your mouth is and join your illustious Chimperor’s War of Capitalist Aggression

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

So Buy Dhimmi doesn’t know how to use her computer or navigate a web site and it’s the AJC’c fault.

WHINER!!!

By getalife

July 19, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Yep, BD swallows all the lies then spews it here and calls other posters idiots.

Oh, the irony.

Ignorance is bliss for the wingnuts.

Duh.

By Tired of Inkboy

July 19, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

You are riding your same ole dead horse. You don’t have courage to tackle anything else. How about M. Vick and dog fighting. All you do is stroke your commie a*******kissers. HA. But you don’t need guts to work for a communist newspaper like the urinal.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

HA HA HA! Tired of Inkboy’s post is a classic example of the pot calling the snowball black.

By Truthman

July 19, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Tired of Pulitzer Prize Winner Inkboy

Mike Vick ain’t killed nearly 4,000 of our boys and girls, SFB (S For Brains)!

By Dusty

July 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Wonder if today is any different??

Yesterday, the big liberal posters here made sweeping statements about religion, sex etc. etc. BIG positive statements.

By afternoon, they were back tracking and flipflopping all over the place. “I didn’t say that.” “That’s not what I meant.” “You don’t understand.” And the usual Demo conclusion about every one but themselves “You’re stupid ‘cause I said so.”

Ah but today will be different. Luckovich knows where and what about Osama. A new protest march is suggested as a sure winner. Others know exactly what could be better. Most surely, by afternoon you libs will have bravely resolved all conflicts.

So please, don’t tell me later that you have not WON the war with all your great advice and foresight. Now that would be another flip flop and I would have to remind you that Democrats voted FOR the war and FOR General Petraeus and the surge.

I will check back later today to help you celebrate.

By Truthman

July 19, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Jesus was a Communist in the truest sense of the word - everything shared. One for all and all for one.

Chew on that one, neo-conmen and women!

By Tired of Inkboy

July 19, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Thank you for making my point for me. You commies may not be worth the sacrifice of our brave soldiers but they do it anyway. Delta is ready when you are pal. I a sure that Russia will welcome you with open arms.

By raisedanidiot

July 19, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Inkboy? That’s pretty harsh criticism, I don’t know if Mike can get over that one- truthman, don’t you know that the patriotic way is to divert the public’s attention away from the really important stuff…the american people are much too simple to be bothered with war and corruption, we must find issues that everyone can unite behind and channel all our useless energy, because its not really about the people anyway.

Dust ball, we’ve missed you so. I know that you’re just frustrated that all republican hell is breaking loose. I’ll try not to take any of your insults personally today…take a xanax, you’ll feel better.

By Jeff Fisher

July 19, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Hello there

Now for the truth

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2007/07/62951.php

http://www.algore.org/blog/ecomom2008/whyweshouldelectalgore2008#comment-4038

By Jeff Fisher

July 19, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Hello there

Now for the truth

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2007/07/62951.php

http://www.algore.org/blog/ecomom2008/whyweshouldelectalgore2008#comment-4038

By Buy D@@steRWs

July 19, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

I am a pigment of my own imagination.

So am I!

Me too!

Don’t forget me!

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Q: How many neocons does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None. The socket welcomes the light bulb with candy and flowers.

Q. How many neocons does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A. Neocons don’t bother with light bulbs. They declare a War on Darkness and set the house on fire.

Q: Why do you never want to date a neocon?

A. Because they always say they’re going to pull out and they never do.

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

{{I would have to remind you that Democrats voted FOR the war and FOR General Petraeus and the surge.}}

Dust-For-Brains, still trying to use that worn-out rhetoric, are ya? Most of the same Dems have long since admitted what a mistake they made in giving Bush authority to go to war, after he had promised to go to the UN for approval first — WHICH HE DID NOT BOTHER TO DO.

And not all Dems voted with Bush to begin with, so why don’t you stop insinuating that they have been promoting your guy’s train-wreck in Iraq?

Oh, I get it— you don’t have anything else to offer for supporting your guy’s disasters for the past 6 years, do you?

By Midori

July 19, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Osama bin Laden’s plan was to get the U.S. to overreact and overreach itself. With the invasion of Iraq, Bush fell slap-bang into that trap. The U.S. government’s own latest National Intelligence Estimate, released this week, suggests that Al Qaeda in Iraq is now among the most significant threats to the security of the American homeland.

Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo have done terrible damage to the U.S. reputation for being humane; this defeat will convince more people around the world that it is not even that powerful. And Bin Laden, still alive, will claim another victory over the death-fearing weaklings of the West.

Looking back over a quarter of a century of chronicling current affairs, I cannot recall a more comprehensive and avoidable man-made disaster.

By raisedanidiot

July 19, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

By Jeff Fisher

July 19, 2007 12:18 PM

Dude! Is that real or some kind of cruel joke?

By getalife

July 19, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

inkboy,

The gop loves commie China.

Pinko.

Duh.

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Larry Flynt Says He’s Found Five Hookers ‘So Far’ Who Had Sex with Sen. Vitter in New Orleans Vitter is also rumored to have a diaper fetish, and sources say he fathered a child with one of the prostitutes

By getalife

July 19, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

The gop are making hookers rich.

“Matt Groening, the man behind “The Simpsons,” sits down with Jon to plug his new movie, and reveals how FOX prohibited him from using the faux news crawl out of fear that it would confuse the mindless FOX News consumers.”

Confusing crusty the clown is not hard to do.

So gullible, so sad.

Duh.

By Midori

July 19, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I watched Matt on TDS last night, and when he said that about Fox News, I howled with laughter. :)

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick’s new car

I don’t mean to make light of what that stupid bastard did to poor defenseless animals but I couldn’t resist sharing with those with a, shall we say, darker sense of humor.

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 19, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{By Midori July 19, 2007 12:41 PM Osama bin Laden’s plan was to get the U.S. to overreact and overreach itself. With the invasion of Iraq, Bush fell slap-bang into that trap.}}}}}}}}

Yeah, Bush is the one who got kicked out of his own country, lives in a cave now, won’t dare show his face because it will invite a swarm of Tomahawk cruise missiles and has 170,000 “crusaders” up his “caliphate” Iraq’s a-ss.

I sincerely hope the Bin Laden sets some more “traps” for us, that would be great.

Duh.

By getalife

July 19, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

“I sincerely hope the Bin Laden sets some more “traps” for us, that would be great. Duh.”

We know bin Laden lover, we know.

Duh.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Midori, Your post at 12:41 could not have said it any better. OBL knew that the U.S. would attack Iraq because Bush and his idiots are so predictable. They were looking for an excuse to do so. What better way of recruting members to his cause than to show how inhumane they are (Abu Ghraib) and how disrespectful they are to their religion —

I’ve said it before - the U.S. fell right into their plans, hook, line, and sinker — jihadists are very patient, OBL knew it would take a while to build up support, and WHAMO, now he has plenty of support all over the world.

Yeah, thanks there Georgie. That’s what I’ve said all along, bring our troops home, protect us here at home, and just hunker down. We screwed up!

By Lord Help Us

July 19, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

But Dull (er, I mean, DUH)?!?!?!?!?

According to yours and BD’s earlier rants you believe Osama is orchestrating the terrorist activities in Iraq…

Can you possibly understand that IF (big IF) you swallow the spin (which you obviously have)…

IF YOU Swallow that BUNK…you have a situation IN IRAQ in which Bin Laden is, and has been, directing terrorist activity in Iraq, is operationally capable of wreaking havoc and killing thousands of our troops.

Are you so DESPERATE and IMMORAL that you are actually promoting a scenario where Bin Laden (six years after 9/11) is directing terrorist activity in Iraq that is killing thousands of our troops?

Coward…(why are you hiding?)

By Little Right of Center

July 19, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Midori, (12:41)

I guess you must be a member of Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda inner group, seeing as how you know what his plan was and is.

Or is this just more of your BS and spin for the ‘sky is falling’ crowd? Some things never change. No proof or facts, just repeat it 10 times and it becomes the truth.

By Little Right of Center

July 19, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Getalife,Bosch and Lord Help Us all bought into your BS on the first telling Midori. Good job! More Kool-Aid folks??

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

WOW! Little Right of Center is an even better example of the pot calling the snowball black.

Why do CONservatives try to label us with what is their trademarks?

By The Watcher

July 19, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

LROC,

You can’t even admit what you really are!

If you still support this administration you are as far right from center as possible.

If you can’t tell the truth about something that simple, nothing you say can be trusted. Nothing. Nada.

You might as well be one of the personalities of Buy D@@steRWs.

Oh! You are!

By getalife

July 19, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

radical wingnut,

“Getalife,Bosch and Lord Help Us all bought into your BS on the first telling Midori. Good job! More Kool-Aid folks??”

Huh?!?!?!

Duh.

By Lord Help Us

July 19, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Actaully LRC, the current Administration excuse for continuing with the surge is that Al Qaeda in Iraq is working with Al Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

In its desperation to continue ‘selling’ the surge, the Bush Administration and its enablers are insisting that, 6 years after 9/11, Bin Laden is directing terrorist operations against our troops in Iraq.

You might have missed it though, because they have referred to it as ‘Progress.’

By getalife

July 19, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Yes, use your original names cowards.

Geez.

By Midori

July 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

too all you right wing idiot kooks: that 12:41 was written by one of your very own: Timothy Garton Ash, a professor of European studies at Oxford University and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. Check the link.

I report; you deride.

Fool(s).

By Little Right of Center

July 19, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Push the button and watch them spin! :)

Anti-CON, your party is the party of liars and racist. Kennedy, Kerry, Murtha and KKKBird.

Watcher, I have admitted many times that this administration has made some mistakes. Can you admit that this administration has done anything right? Somehow I doubt that you can. You’re so rabid in your hate for all things Bush, you could never admit or recognize that on a number of items he has succeeded.

However, we are better off now than we would be if Kerry or Gore had been elected. We already know that whatever the left claims today they will deny tomorrow and you claim that I cannot be trusted? More Kool-Aid??

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 19, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{19 March 2004, After Iraq - Timothy Garton Ash, The invasion of Iraq and the ousting of Saddam Hussein were supposed to make the world a safer place. But the failure to find any weapons of mass destruction raises the question, how much of a danger was Iraq to the rest of the world?}}}}}}}

Yeah, one of us.

Duh.

{{{{{By Bosch July 19, 2007 1:25 PM What better way of recruting members to his cause than to show how inhumane they are (Abu Ghraib) and how disrespectful they are to their religion —}}}}}}}

Yes, right now Al Qaida is fighting Sunnis in Iraq, the Iranians, the Lebanese, the Pakistanis, the Afghanis, Ethiopia, Great Britian, the Saudis, the United States, Japan and just about every country in the world besides China.

I give China about six months before they too get tired of that as-s.

By getalife

July 19, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

radical wingnut,

You had enough Kool-Aid.

Duh.

By Little Right of Center

July 19, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Sorry Midori, “Professor…at Oxford, Senior Fellow…” that would indicate that he has more of a left leaning than to the right. Spin on but don’t spill your Kool-Aid.

By The Watcher

July 19, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Farthest Right You Can be!

If I could come up with one thing this administration has done right, I sure would admit it.

Can’t find one. Can You?

I wonder why you have to tell me how I hate Bush? You could not possible know that. I don’t hate Bush. Hate is wrong. I do think he is a bungling , incompetent fool and a very serious threat to our nation, our people and the planet.

Now, Bandy D@@stRocWs, go away.

One neo-con. So many personalities.

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

{{However, we are better off now than we would be if Kerry or Gore had been elected. We already know that whatever the left claims today they will deny tomorrow and you claim that I cannot be trusted? More Kool-Aid??}}

Once again, Way-Out Right— nothing at all to support YOUR claims, just the usual BS from you!

Bush-kisser!

By Little Right of Center

July 19, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Watcher, sorry but I only post under one ID. I did change my ID a year or so ago but I do not use any other now. So like your opinion of Bush, your wrong again. But what else is new?

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Energy Task Force papers finally revealed. Enron and Exxon-Mobil helped Cheney create our nation’s energy policy. If you’re surprised by that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Midori— it’s interesting in that column you linked at 12:41 that he has this to say:

{{“For the United States, the world is now, as a result of the Iraq war, a more dangerous place. At the end of 2002, what is sometimes tagged “Al Qaeda Central” in Afghanistan had been virtually destroyed, and there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq. In 2007, there is an Al Qaeda in Iraq, parts of the old Al Qaeda are creeping back into Afghanistan and there are Al Qaeda emulators spawning elsewhere, notably in Europe.”}}

No wonder the Bush-kissers refuse to even read the link written by one of their own Neo-Cons!

By Midori

July 19, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

hey stupid,

why not look it up?

you capable of that?

i know it’s far easier to just pull even more stupid crap out of your @ss, but still………

By Midori

July 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Spot on Goldie,

see how they try to deride, ridicule, dismiss, etc., with more lunacy, idiocy and fantasy.

what a bunch of losers.

By The Watcher

July 19, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

We don’t believe Bush? Why would we believe you? (Eh, DUH)

One Neo-con. So many personalities.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

You’ll notice that CONservative participation has dropped off drastically around here. Must be too draining to always defend the indefensible.

We’re left with morons like LROC who feel the need to accuse us of CONservtive sins like racism and cowardice.

Remember that post that showed that Tancredo was the only Republican candidate to show up at the debate held by African Americans? Racist indeed.

How about the young college Republicans who just can’t seem to find their way to the recruitment office.

Sorry LROC, you just don’t have the credibility needed to play with the adults here.

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

FOR RAISEDANIDIOT

IT IS APPARENTLY TRUE

Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq Fact sheet Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Pentagon: ‘Public Discussion’ Of Iraq Withdrawal ‘Reinforces Enemy Propaganda’

””“Edelman is directly contradicted by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who testified that debate over Iraq redeployment has been “helpful in bringing pressure to bear on the Maliki government.” Additionally, these “very same Iraqi allies” aren’t unnerved by talk of redeployment, but overwhelmingly favor it — 71 percent of Iraqis want the U.S. troops to withdraw within a year. “”“”

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

You know what? I don’t like Kool-Aid, that stuff is nasty, hell, I don’t even like sweet tea!

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

{{hell, I don’t even like sweet tea!}}

Uh-oh. You must’ve been born without that Southern sweet-tea gene? Poor dude!

By The Essence of Doom

July 19, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Anyone that doesn’t like Kool-Aid must have had a very f^cked up childhood.

By raisedanidiot

July 19, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

FOR RAISEDANIDIOT

IT IS APPARENTLY TRUE

Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq Fact sheet Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act

IS NOBODY ELSE WIGGING OUT OVER THIS?

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 19, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{By raisedanidiot July 19, 2007 3:20 PM Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq IS NOBODY ELSE WIGGING OUT OVER THIS?}}}}}}

No, just you and the terrorists.

Duh.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

We’ve already agreed on the prostitution thing. All we have left is to agree on a price.

$30,000 ought to cover it.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

What are Democratic voters - not to mention the progressives accustomed to not having any political representation - prepared to do when faced with systematic, institutional betrayal? After the requisite bloggy indignation and an hour or two in the drum circle, you aren’t going to do jack sh!t.

And that ain’t no secret. Especially at Democratic National Headquarters.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Yeah anyone who never developed a taste for artificial flavor, artificial color and sugar must have had a terrible childhood.

The Essence of Dumb is a moron.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Former President Bush contemplates suicide

Wouldn’t you if you were responsible for spawning Dubya?

By Not Duh

July 19, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Please don’t feed Andy/Duh. He was banned from this site and just drops in to annoy people.

By Anti-CON®

July 19, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Excellent Ann Telnaes cartoons

By AmVet

July 19, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Yeah anyone who never developed a taste for artificial flavor, artificial color and sugar must have had a terrible childhood.

Anti-CON®, I agree with your that.

These are probably the same people who believe Coke is It and Budweiser is the King of Beers.

Wow, I guess I’m just a beverage snob!

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Goldie, Yeah, the Bosch genes are a weird combination. But don’t worry, I do like grits (with shrimp and cheese of course) fried okra, cornbread, pinto beans, not much a collard/turnip green fan

BUT OF COURSE…. CHARDONNAY!

Anti-Con - THANKS!

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

WHAT? AMVET? Budweiser ISN’T the King of Beer? Just kidding. :-)

I’m a beverage snob too. It’s okay, embrace your taste for the good stuff.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot and In The News -

I’m not wigging out over it because I’m used to such Orwellian/Fascist tactics by Bush.

I’m such a Harry Potter freak, I’m real excited about the new book - he’s like Dolores Umbridge - only 5000 times worse!

Seriously, I guess I’ve just become numb to such news. It’s not a surprising move. We live under a Fascist regime - get used to it, or vote them out.

By Goldie

July 19, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Sweet tea, Kool-Aid, Hi-C — all commonly referred to as “Cavities In A Glass”!

And sometimes I forego the Chardonnay that all Libs are supposed to be drinking — I actually prefer Pinot Grigio! I guess I’m not a pure Lib…

By The Essence of Doom

July 19, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

AntiConartist,

Tell your depraved childhood symptoms to somebody else. You don’t seem to have a problem with political Kool-Aid.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

Goldie, I can’t drink Pinot Grigio, I drink it too fast and wind up s** faced. I have to drink red! But then again, beer, scotch and gin work well too!

By raisedanidiot

July 19, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Guess I can still be shocked…does that mean I’m innocent like, who was it the other day proclaiming her innocence? @@? Seriously though, I’ve lived with these people…they scare me. If they can take away a mother’s children in leu of social policy, what can’t they do? Don’t know about you guys, I’m getting my passport in order…just in case. Actually, a glass of good german reisling would be great! Calm my damn nerves…unfknblvble!!

By The Essence of Doom

July 19, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

All of you sound like a bunch of out of touch old hags, whining about some of the most delicious products produced in this country. Doom cannot believe that he has returned to such emptiness and dispair.

By The Subconscience of Doom

July 19, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

I am 25 years old, I still drink Kool Aid, and I still go to sleep everynight in my Spiderman briefs. Anyone have a problem with that?

By The Essence of Doom

July 19, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Mocking Doom just shows how empty you really feel. You cannot defeat him so therefore you ID jack him.

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Group files ethics complaint against ex-DC Madam client Vitter

By IN THE NEWS

July 19, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

””““‘Difficult’ for Al-Qaeda to export violence: US general

The second-highest ranking US general in Iraq said on Thursday it would be “difficult” for Al-Qaeda in Iraq to export violence outside the country despite expressed concerns by US intelligence.

“Al-Qaeda in Iraq, I think, is struggling with its mission here in Iraq,” said general Raymond Odierno, who spoke to reporters via teleconference from Iraq.

“Currently I think it would be very difficult for them to export any violence outside of Iraq,” he said.

Nevertheless, Odierno said Al-Qaeda was attempting to set up a training base inside Iraq, and he acknowledged that some foreign fighters could be learning tactics there and using them elsewhere.

“There is an attempt here by the leadership of Al-Qaeda to create a training area and a place when they can recruit and train people in the Middle East. That’s why they would like us to fail here so they can use Iraq,” he said.

“There might be some things they have done here in Iraq that people might be learning from. There might be people who have been coming here for short periods of time, foreigners, that might try to conduct some attacks.”

A US intelligence report on Tuesday warned that Al-Qaeda had regrouped in its Pakistani “safe haven” and was determined launch fresh attacks on the United States.

FROM AP

By Buy Danish

July 19, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{By Midori July 19, 2007 12:41 PM Osama bin Laden’s plan was to get the U.S. to overreact and overreach itself. With the invasion of Iraq, Bush fell slap-bang into that trap.}}}}}}}}

How did that work exactly? I thought Bin Laden had nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and that Zarqawi and Bin Laden hated each other.

And what else can be defined as “overreaching”? The Patriot Act you idiot Libs hate so much?

I’ll check in later for Midori’s brilliant response. Of course, the only thing she can say when she’s not quoting someone else is a vulgarity, so I’m not anticipating a rational answer.

By James

July 19, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

BTW… the Democrats did not fillibuster. They were trying to break a REPUBLICAN FILLIBUSTER, so they could have an up or down vote (something the Republicans moaned on & on about when they were in charge) with regard to Iraq policy. People who post need to get their facts straight… DUH.

By Buy Danish

July 19, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

James,

Speaking of getting your facts straight, the complaints about Filibustering from the Republicans had to do with JUDICIAL NOMINEES, not with legislation where filibusters are normal.

You’re welcome.

By Duh stands for Democrat

July 19, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{By James July 19, 2007 4:57 PM BTW… the Democrats did not fillibuster. People who post need to get their facts straight… DUH.}}}}}}}

Um, you mean this?:

{{{{{{{By Duh stands for Democrats July 19, 2007 8:21 AM If you called for an all night (((((filibuster))))) in the Senate, a stunt designed to sneak through anti war legislation that the president would have vetoed anyway, and it was a miserable, ridiculous failure that totally crashed and burned, what headlines would you expect your toadies in the lib media to put on their front page: Vote allows Bush more time on Iraq-Atlanta Journal Constitution}}}}}

Oh, O.K, strike the word filibuster and let’s go with, um, pajama party.

Dat work for you?

By Buy Danish

July 19, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Where did all the Libs go? Are they scratching their heads about how Bin Laden cleverly trapped Bush into invading Iraq?

Is this “actionable intelligence”? You know, like that famous report that was waved around in front of the 9/11 Commission that the Dems get all lathered up about where we were told that “Bin Laden was determined to strike inside the United States” (as if we all didn’t already know that?):

Al-Qaeda had regrouped in its Pakistani “safe haven” and was determined launch fresh attacks on the United States.

Date? Time? Place? Method?

Goodnight.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 19, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish says: How did that work exactly? I thought Bin Laden had nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Saddam Hussein’s Iraq and that Zarqawi and Bin Laden hated each other.

And what else can be defined as “overreaching”? The Patriot Act you idiot Libs hate so much?

As to the first point, you are entirely correct that the theory that Bin Laden wanted us to overreact must necessarily mean that he and Saddam were involved with one another. Logic dictates that it is true. Therefore, since Bin Laden didn’t want us to overreact he could not have been involved with Saddam which is something Cheney said “was pretty well established.” Which means that Saddam was involved with Bin Laden which would mean that Bin Laden wanted us to overreact. So I hope that clears up all of that. It is logic like this that leads us wingers into a grand adventure such as Iraq.

As to the second point, it is obvious that in a post-9/11 world the only secrets that ought to be kept are the ones the president wants kept secret through executive privilege. The government should know everything and the people shouldn’t know much of anything. Its what our forefathers would have wanted as they, more than any other people before or after them, believed that one should have absolute trust in government to do the right thing by its citizens. It was the whole reason for the Revolution. The King of England was simply too weak and didn’t have the powers necessary to protect them. So we revolted and established a government with a three branches of government for a balance of power that assures that the powers remain with the government rather than with the people.

Thank God we did this too. Can you imagine what a King would have done after 9/11? He’d probably be trying to give us more freedoms and rights. We’d surely all be killed within a matter of weeks.

RWNJIFG

By silver lounger

July 19, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

we aint nevah gonna git outta iraq.

By Not Duh

July 19, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Please don’t feed Andy/Duh. He was banned from this site and just drops in to annoy people.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

No Buy Danish, We’re not gone, we are better at predicting the incompetence of this administration better than the real KoolAid drinkers. :-)

Lighten up.

So, I want to know your opinion, seriously, not trying to provoke here:

What will it take for a “success” in Iraq? Just want your take on that.

I’m in a good mood - new Harry Potter book is coming out this weekend -don’t make fun of me here - I’m opening myself up for ridicule, which I’m okay with -

I seriously want to know your opinion.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 19, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish said: “Where did all the Libs go? Are they scratching their heads about how Bin Laden cleverly trapped Bush into invading Iraq?”

You are so right! Bin Laden hates our presence in Iraq. Its like his worst nightmare ever. Its got to be terrible for recruiting as well as on the job training. He couldn’t have predicted this sort of reaction and it certainly is to his detriment. That’s why we got the good news from the intelligence community saying that Al Qaeda is just as strong as it was pre-9/11. I think everybody thought, optomistically, that almost 6 years later that it would be much, much stronger than before. This is the Bush legacy that we will all look back on fondly. Isn’t he is so great?

Trapped in Iraq? Please. We can leave as soon as there is peace and stability in Iraq. How do you call that a trap?

RWNJIFG

By getalife

July 19, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

“I believe that Gen. Petraeus is a very able man and I don’t have any doubts that they’ll win some battles,” President Clinton said. “I hope this works. I think every American hopes this works. But it can’t work beyond winning a few battles. It has to be accompanied by … progress on the political front.”

Duh.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Why is Bush calling this new strategy a “surge” when the military is just attempting to bring troop levels up to what they should have been in the first place?

We are set to run out of troops by April, maybe that’s why the Dems in Congress are scurrying to get the troops home by then?

Maybe? Maybe? Bueller? Don’t know - opinions?

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - from one liberal to [insert name here - I’m giving you the opition].

Truce?

This situation in Iraq is, for lack of another word, crazy. Do you agree? No? What is it?

What is it going to take?

Okay, so you don’t think we should “cut and run,” but what will it take? Right now, it seems pretty hopeless.

What will it take?

I, personally, am tired of arguing about it. I’m tired of everyone (even on this blog) arguing about it.

We are Americans, we put men on the moon, we can fix this? But how?

Enough arguing, enough name calling, enough posting random articles to prove your point (because there is just as many to the contrary to disprove that point)can it be done?

Most of us here are smart people, people with very solid opinions, so how can it be done?

By silver lounger

July 19, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

The problem with debating Iraq is that nobody has any reliable data. The Iraqis dont even know what’s going on. There is a momentum toward chaos that we set in motion, but which had been kinetic energy since the dawn of man.

We aint nevah gonna git outta iraq.

By @@

July 19, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

rushncap @ 11:05:

What was that post I left last night?

That was me celebrating your individualism. You know, the proud “individual” rushncap who lives in a world where “people who need people” is just a fantasy.

(((Being an individual proved too hard for you. I sympathize. But I’ll stay an individual. You can go on “helping” people. I’ll continue to live in the real world.)))

rushncap’s individual world where “those people” with disabilities contribute nothing of value.

YOUR pristine world where political correctness is whatever you want it to be:

(((Yes we are all unique, beautiful butterflies, we are all precious, blah blah blah. Now, back on planet reality, your kids will not (I’ll paraphrase here) accomplish anything noteworthy.)))

The world of individualism where you enjoy exchanges with those people “just like you”…and everybody else should just pick up “the trash”.

(((By GodHatesTrash July 16, 2007 5:28 PM

@@ teaching retards.

Reminds me of the blind leading the blind.

Tards teaching tards. Only in Georgia.

Trash teaching trash.

Trash.)))

rushncap’s Utopia where our military is not quite good enough to protect anyone because they don’t come up to YOUR standard…

(((And duh would be the first one to volunteer had he been able to pass the lower-standard psychological test for the army…)))

Anyway, I was just trying to recognize your “individualism”.

How’d I do?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 19, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Trying to compare putting a man on the moon with victory in Iraq understates the greatness of the mission and the victory that is within reach. I think a better analogy between victory in Iraq and a scientific acheivement would be time travel.

RWNJIFG

By @@

July 19, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

For the record…

the above comments in the 6:25 post were those offered up by two of ml’s liberals.

I, @@, am a conservative and proud of it. The alternative has become an unthinkable prospect for me.

By silver lounger

July 19, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

To give you an idea how evil Osama Bin Laden is, they just reported on Fox that HE was the one who leaked the Harry Potter Ending, and he is rooting for Barry Bonds to break Hank’s HR record.

I really hate this OBL guy.

We aint nevah gonna git outta iraq.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

So, @@, what’s your take? What will it take for a success in Iraq?

I hope you saw my post yesterday about the “sermon” thing.

By silver lounger

July 19, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

In apparent retaliation, Al Franken has leaked the ending to Salman Rushdie’s sequel to “The Satanic Verses”.

Hint: Mohammed gets the goatboy.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

OH DAMN, I KNEW IT! Nothing is sacred.

Many curses, spells, and jinxes on OBL’s many, many houses, and caves, and tents, and other general dwelling places.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Voldermort = Osama Bin Laden

By rushncap

July 19, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

@@’s post, and I’ll paraphrase here in the same way she “paraphrases” my posts: “I’m dumb ugly old b!tch with an inferiority complex, please don’t hurt my fragile ego or crush my fragile mind rushncap”.

I think I paraphrased your post to me more faithfully than you did mine, but I’m nice like that.

By Land of Oz

July 19, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Anybody that didn’t already know that Bosch is really just a middle schooler home on Summer Break, I think has been enlightened today with his Harry Potter fetish.

Here’s a tip for ya Bosch. When you want to make up an adult persona it’s sometimes best to leave out things like all the kids that mysteriously all end up being your age and I would leave out the preacher wife that slugs down booze by the gallon jug with you too.

Enjoy school when you start back and do try to study, but I would leave this blog out of the “What I Did on Summer Break” report.

By Bosch

July 19, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

Oh Buy Danish, you are such a let down with your 7:11 post, why can’t you just play nice?

My spouse is a great person - the Bosch family is very well grounded. The other Bosch would absolutely crush you in a debate, that’s why I’m so in love with that crazy recent seminarian.

The problem is……you can’t come up with an answer to my questions, just like you or your guys in the Bush administration can’t come up with something even close to a “plan of success” for the situation in Iraq and the rest of the world.

I gave you a chance to make fun, I’ll give you that, but I assure you, the Boschs are just fine, you have no alternative, which is totally expected.

I gave you a chance, and you blew it.

My goodness……..you are so sad.

Lighten up and try to come up with a real answer.

I offered you a truce, and you chose for hate, so typical of your kind.

You speak for yourself, it’s obvious when I’m joking around, unfortunately, it’s not so obvious with you……you can’t even use your real name:

BUYDANISH@@DUSTYRWLITTLERIGHTOFCENTER

So sad………….

By gtengineer

July 20, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Bush’s executive order overturns the 5th Amendment! (illegal search and seizure)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6786106,00.html

aparently it’s not news here in the USA, the guardian is covering it… By executive order, the Secretary of the Treasury may now seize the property of any person who undermines efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq. The Secretary may make his determination in secret and after the fact.

as the constitution says: “…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

The order gives the Secretary of the Treasury the right to immediately and without notice freeze all assets of anyone “the administration” thinks is attempting to undermine the Iraqi government as well as anyone who has financial dealings with such people… no due process… no judicial oversight… no day in court… they just take everything you own… the only “check and balance” on this is the sec. of state and sec. of defense… all three are bush appointees

This is no longer about terrorism, this is about control… and think of the implications on free speech… speaking critical of the Iraqi gov’t could prompt the Bush administration to deem you as attempting to undermine it… then bam you “disappear” and they fly you to some secret prison in eastern europe…. habeas corpus??? nope he did away with that with the Military Commission’s Act of 2006… and in his eyes just discussing this right now is “aiding americas enemies”

some may say big deal… but there are already laws on this allowing the gov’t to seize assets for terrorists with judicial oversight… the exact same thing, but without the burden of the judicial branch of gov’t medling in dubya’s business.

its a bit of legalese, but check it out like sec. 5… this scares the sh.t outta me. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html

people claim america is no different after 9/11 while we are in a mad rush to throw away our civil liberties and constitutional rights! The Founding Fathers thought those rights were vital for