Mike Luckovich

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

In light of the pedophile priest scandals, is anyone surprised that the majority of Catholics are CONservative?

By Dirty Bird

July 18, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

Bark, bark.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Can you see who’s in line behind the good Father? All the Ayatolluhs and Mulluhs who have screamed “death to the infidels”. Hey, there’s Jarry Falwell too! (He’s saving a place in line for Pat Robertson!)

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

I wonder why the “liberal media” are using the term procedural roadblock instead of the term filibuster

By Analchord

July 18, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

The Catholic Church paid 660 million in sex settlements. Actually their insurance company did.

Did you know that the catholic church has sex abuse insurance? I wonder how long the “good hands people” argued it was an act of god?

I wonder what the deductible is: “innappropriately long hugs”, or “Acting out any scene from the movie Hairspray”?

And if any abuse occured in the confessional abuse, would it count?

And if the church had let the premiums lapse, would there still be a grace period?

By silver

July 18, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Religion seems to attract perverts, all religions. I guess its the power of the position, allowing certain liberties that other people could not get away with. If catholic priests faced the same aggressive investigations that say muslim inmans face, I suspect the child molestation would end. What should be the punishment for organized religion for covering us these crimes for Centuries? I suggest full taxation of all churches, the same as for any other business. Make them pay property taxes, federal and state income taxes, sales taxes, and medicare and social security taxes. It is only just punishment, think of all the children the church has betrayed over the hundreds of years. Oh yeah, and end the tax deductability of contributions to religion, churches, and missionaries.

By IN THE NEWS

July 18, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

State welfare offices across the country are not offering millions of low-income Americans the opportunity to register to vote when applying for public assistance despite a federal law requiring them to do so, according to an analysis of a recent federal voting registration report and experts who say the Department of Justice and states are to blame.

By getalife

July 18, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

“Cardinal Roger Mahony, leader of the nation’s largest Roman Catholic archdiocese, apologized Sunday
to the hundreds of people who will get a share of a $660 million settlement over allegations of clergy sex abuse.

The deal settles all 508 cases that remained against the archdiocese, which also paid $60 million in December
to settle 45 cases that weren’t covered by sexual abuse insurance.

Sexual abuse insurance? Why did the Catholics purchase sexual abuse insurance? I don’t have any of that because I don’t plan to sexually abuse anyone - but they bought some?

The Los Angeles archdiocese have paid more than $114 million to settle 86 claims so far. Several religious orders in California have also reached multimillion-dollar settlements in recent months.

Why apologize for something you intend to do again and again? In 2010, Mahoney will express more shock and outrage when he writes more checks. The truth is, if they expelled every priest with a sex crimes in their past they’d have to close up.

That’s why they can’t take the “One strike and you’re out” pledge - they can’t afford to.”

Bartcop, always telling it like it is.

By poofo

July 18, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

allah akbar

By getalife

July 18, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

“Cardinal Mahoney announced that to help pay for the deal, the church would sell a building it owns on Wilshire
and about 50 other properties they weren’t using, which reminded me, oh yeah, the Catholic Church owns more
property out here than Bob Hope did because it’s a business — and not just a business, really, the greatest
business in the world, in that, like all religions, it’s selling an invisible product.

The total payouts for abuse cases in dioceses all over America is now over $2 billion, and I imagine much of it
came from people who went to Church and bought the invisible product by dropping their hard earned money
into the basket. I wonder what those people think when they see that their money got spent on buying the
privilege of touching and f*** kids.”

Bill Mayer.

I was raised a Catholic and left the church because I thought it was a scam.

Turns out, it is worse than a scam.

Geez.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

I like how the Pope stated last week that only the Catholic church has the real Christians and all other denominations are inferior. And I wonder if any other Christians see any irony in the Catholic church having to pay out BILLIONS of $$$ for abusing children during the past 30 or so years.

I see the irony, and I think it’s pretty hilarious!

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

I think one of the major problems with the Catholic Church and Christianity in general is the suppression of sex and women. Sex is human nature and many religions make it something bad (which, IMHO, has a lot to do with St. Paul). Episcopal priests are allowed to marry, just like anyone else, and while there are cases of sexual abuse in the Episcopal Church, they are far less.

I think that is a problem in our society in general, and probably one of the reasons we have a high percentage of sexual abuse in the general population. We have an extreme Puritanical view of sex, people don’t like to talk about sex, they view the human body as obscene, etc.

So, IMHO, until our society stops seeing sex as something evil, talk about it openly with children (and not use all the goofy slang words because you are too embarrassed to say “penis” or “vagina”) we will continue to have problems like this.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

To amend my 9:21 post— I think that it’s the POPE who’s hilarious.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Yes Goldie, this Pope is kind of whacky, isn’t he? Where’s he from anyway? Oh, nevermind.

By luckovich akbar vagina

July 18, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

allah akbar

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Bill Maher has an HBO special showing this Sat. night, and because he’s a recovering Catholic, I’m sure he’ll have a few more comments to make about the Pope and his superior brand of religion.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Let me correct something - in my 9:24 - obviously St. Paul doesn’t have much to do with the views on sex and women in any other religion than Christianity - my bad.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Bosch— isn’t this the Pope that was a member of the Nazi Party during his youth in Germany? Looks like he’s having a hard time shaking off his feelings of superiority over others. Maybe that just comes with being selected a “Pope”, but was he the best candidate the Catholic church could come up with? Reminds me of the Repugs offering up Bush as their ultimate guy in the 2000 election.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Goldie, “Recovering Catholic” LOL, I have friends who refer to themselves as “spiritual refugees.” :-)

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

And now that we’re talking about God and all that’s holy: how ‘bout that Michael Vick? A real piece of millionaire work, that one, huh?

Maybe if Vick gives enough $$$ to the Repugnant Party, he’ll get any sentence commuted by our president!

By Jesus

July 18, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Kennedy is a Jew

July 18, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

allah akbar

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

I have to thank the Catholic church for a few things. 16 years of really great education, fun times with our church based scout troops, parish carnivals, St. Patricks and St. Joseph’s day festivals, a loving community in which to grow up.

But not all Catholic kids were that lucky.

Until the Church in Rome removes the man-made prohibition against married priests they will continue to create an environment condusive to pedophilia.

By Vick is a democrat

July 18, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

save Vick, call the ACLU

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Goldie, Pretty much everybody in Germany during that time was a member of the Nazi party (even if they weren’t). But no, he may have gone through the Nazi HItler Youth Program, at the time is was a legal requirement, but he was a “quiet” critic of the Nazi party. Obviously you had to be pretty “quiet” about your criticisms back then in Deutschland during that time - know what I mean?

His dad was a critic of the Nazi Party as well. But, to make this long story short, everyone had to go through the Hitler Youth Program, and he was drafted into the German army, but there is no indication that he was indoctrinated with the Nazi ideologue.

I think he’s a pretty decent guy, very, very intelligent, but I think he’s just OLD! The other Bosch and I take care of my mother-in-law (whose old as hell and lives with us), and the other Bosch’s aunt and uncle who are 88 and 83 (who live right behind us - we always joke around that we have three kids and three old people) - old people just say crazy stuff. His advisors really shouldn’t let him out anymore!

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Let’s wait and see the evidence against Vick before we talk about saving him.

If he is guilty of fighting dogs he deserves jail.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Vick is a democrat, Vick needs to be thrown in the ring with his dogs! God, how disgusting!

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 18, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

{{{{{{By silver July 18, 2007 8:56 AM Religion seems to attract perverts, all religions. I guess its the power of the position, allowing certain liberties that other people could not get away with.}}}}}}

Some things the libs are “outraged” about, some things they aren’t:

According to a draft report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, in compliance with the 2002 “No Child Left Behind” act signed into law by President Bush, between 6 percent and 10 percent of public school children across the country have been sexually abused or harassed by school employees and teachers. Such figures led her to contend “the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests.”

Gee, I wonder why the liberals are attacking the Catholic Church, again.

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla - I, too, am a product of Catholic schools. I was even an altar boy. As I matured I realized how ridiculous organized religion is. It’s a lot like the Republicans. Lead with fear. I don’t need anyone frightening me into acting morally. I’ll put my moral base up against any Christian hypocrite.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Does Vick deserve to have anything less done to him than he did to those innocent dogs, i.e. hanging or electrocution? Hmmm… and what kind of role model do we want our children emulating these days?

Just a couple of questions I have on my mind this morning…

By getalife

July 18, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

“Gee, I wonder why the liberals are attacking the Catholic Church, again.”

Duh.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

As a recovering Baptist myself, I don’t believe in the constant fear-mongering coming from that church either!

By Duh is for Andy

July 18, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Gee, why aren’t the CONSERVATIVES attacking the Catholic Church?

Do they like pedophilia or what?

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Anti-Con, I think it’s all how you look at church in general. I was a big “church is stupid” kind of person until I met the other Bosch. I’m not a big proponent of organized religion, I can find “God” anywhere, but I’m very happy with my church. I think it is all how you make it applicable to your life. There are lots of things about Christianity that I have problems with, and things that I simply just do not believe, but I like my church because of the social programs we host (soup kitchen, giving clothes and coats to shelters, etc.) and the community of the members. I know that I could call most anyone in my church at anytime for help, and they’d be there in a second.

It is an outlet for my family to actually “do” things for the community together as a family instead of just talking about it. It is also a source of showing my children the realities of life, my kids work in the soup kitchen in the summer, and help the older parrisioners if they need help with yard work, moving something, etc.

There are a lot of people in my church who are extremely conservative politically, but we just don’t talk about it — I don’t even know what many of the members of my church do for a living.

But, I can apply much of what is “preached on” to my life, sort of translate it into Boschisms, if that makes sense. I also like the free bread and wine every Sunday!

But anyway, no, I do not like churches that preach a “right” and a “wrong,” that just isn’t for me, but there are some churches out there believe it or not that don’t do that.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Goldie, We have a lot in common, I too, was a recovering Baptist and didn’t step foot in a church from age 12 until 22 (went to church with the other Bosch - there’s just something about love that can make you do anything!). Mother Bosch is a crazy evangelical. Luckily Father Bosch is an agnostic - go figure - like I said, love will make you do weird things.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Duh is right. Leave the Catholic Church alone! The real victims are the Priests who were seduced by these young, male Lolitas. Even school teachers apparently can’t keep themselves from having sex with them. We need to just have the kids say NO to sex with Priests and gym teachers etc… Maybe Nancy can start a campaign. It worked with drugs, why can’t it work here?

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

{{It is an outlet for my family to actually “do” things for the community together as a family instead of just talking about it.}}

I like your attitude, Bosch. I have many friends who are still active in their churches for the same reasons, and they are appalled by how the Repugs have tried to hijack the Christian religion as belonging only to their political party.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Yes, Goldie, it is amazing to me how people can call themselves “Christian” and then complain about “them Mexicans” or turn up their noses at homeless people instead of viewing them simply as a human being. You may have “issues” with their circumstances, but they are still humans beings with needs and feelings.

I have to call Mother Bosch out all the time about things like that. She’ll complain about the “Mexicans” at the Wal-Mart, and I’ll ask her, “well, don’t you think these people need toothpaste too? I mean do you really want these people running around illegally AND with bad breath?” That just burns her up, and she’ll get all flustered.

I am also appalled at those like Vitter and Newt who scream for family values and deem themselves the moral police and then are caught in escapades like we’ve seen.

To me, the ones who are screaming for moral values are the ones you usually have to look out for (to quote an old middle school saying of mine, “first smeller is the feller!”)

By mm

July 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Duh,

Geez, why don’t you just disappear? You are a moron of epic proportions. Your post at 9:59 is probably one of the stupidest you’ve ever had. Nah, nevermind, I don’t think you can top yesterday’s post comparing troop deaths and auto deaths.

You, Dusty, and @@ can take any subject, quote, or article and twist it into something of irrelevance and/or absurdity to the point of mind-numbing disbelief or hysterical laughter.

By Shawny

July 18, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Good article in the Boston Globe regarding the conseuences of pulling out of Iraq. Need a historical example, refer to:

then-Representative Christopher Dodd of Connecticut retorted: “The greatest gift our country can give to the Cambodian people is peace, not guns. And the best way to accomplish that goal is by ending military aid now.” So Washington ended military aid, and Phnom Penh fell to the Khmer Rouge, which proceeded to exterminate nearly 2 million Cambodians in one of the ghastliest genocides of modern times.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Rightwing Nut Job— are you really Matt Drudge? He seems to believe it’s always the children who should be blamed!

Matt Drudge actually refers to the children who were preyed upon by Mark Foley as “16 and 17 year old beasts”. He also says, “they (the pages) were talking about how many times they’d masturbated, how many times they’d done it with their girlfriends this weekend…all these things and these innocent children. And this poor congressman sitting there typing, oh am I going to get any, you know?”

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

I mean do you really want these people running around illegally AND with bad breath?” -Bosch

LOL! I needed that!

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

“first smeller is the feller!”

or…

“He who smelt it, dealt it.” Not grammatically correct but funny just the same.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

And Goldie, Another thing regarding something from the other day, about the death penalty.

I hate to be almost “preaching” all this “Christian” stuff and not comment on this.

I really hate it that I feel the way I do, I do believe in the death penalty. I appreciate all human life, but those who totally disregard it, to me, don’t deserve that precious right to live. It is also very troubling to me that many death penalty opponents forget the victims’ families - who NEVER recover - I’ve seen that first-hand - the trauma and complete destruction of the families.

We all shape our opinions and beliefs on experiences we’ve had, and as you know, loosing a friend to murder can be really traumatic. The circumstances with both of my friends deaths was just so horrible, beyond words horrible, it’s hard not to feel bitter.

But, as far as that case from the other day, I’m glad to see he got clemency so that the new evidence can be heard and weighed. I, too, would really hate to see an innocent man executed.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Our ongoing occupation in Iraq has caused a major failure in fighting terrorism:

President Bush’s top counterterrorism advisers acknowledged Tuesday that the strategy for fighting Osama bin Laden’s leadership of Al Qaeda in Pakistan had failed, as the White House released a grim new intelligence assessment that has forced the administration to consider more aggressive measures inside Pakistan.

By @@

July 18, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Understanding the church and it’s teachings is a lifetime endeavor ml. I don’t know of anybody who has graduated and returned to show their diploma.

A couple of things have stuck with me.

Among them “Don’t ask for justice, because you might get it.” The other is a story about a wise and just king who ruled over a nation of wicked people. His responsibility was to discourage their wickedness, the king decided that anyone breaking the law would have his eyes put out. A young man was apprehended for violating the law, and when he was brought before the King, the ruler was dismayed to discover that the lawbreaker was his own son. What could he do? If he were merely a just king, he would have his eyes removed. If he were merely a loving father, he would overlook the crime and let his son go free. But he was both a just king and a loving father. So he said, “You have broken the law, and the punishment is the loss of two eyes. That is what it shall be, one of yours and one of mine.” Now as the story goes, from that day on, the appearance of both the King and his son reminded the people of the king’s justice and love.

I came to a different conclusion. We’re in it together and the sin is shared by all.

Kinda like the song says…”Stuck in the middle with you…”

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

AntiCON, Glad I could help.

Those middle school quotes can really pick you up sometimes! I forgot about “he who smelt it, dealt it!” Classic.

I have two middle-school age children and one high schooler, and their “isms” just keep me alive sometimes!

I don’t get onto my kids about “language” so much as long as they use it appropriately, you know, not around old people or their teachers, and my middle son last night said (regarding our cats (we have three) who were literally (no pun intended) lined up at the litter box, he said, “Man, the cats are having a sh!tfest in there!” Appropriate? No. Funny as hell, and made me fall off the couch? Yes.

By getalife

July 18, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Suwanee,

Yes and when daddy cut and run from Iraq, the Kurds were gassed.

They learned nothing from Vietnam.

Nothing and repeated the same mistake.

Of course, there will be revenge when we leave but w decided to occupy anyway.

This genocide belongs to w. Period.

He is man enough to admit it , he is a coward:

“When you’re a failure like Bush, blame someone else:

The White House’s latest spin on the National Intelligence Estimate is that it’s Pakistan’s fault for allowing Osama bin Ladin to reemerge as strong as ever along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border .”

Pathetic, he cut and run from the real enemy and he will cut and run in Iraq before the election.

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 18, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

{{{{{{By mm July 18, 2007 10:51 AM Duh, Geez, why don’t you just disappear?}}}}}}}}

100 times more children are molested by public school teachers and the libs are like church mice about it, hahaha.

They don’t even want to hear it.

So, gosh, if they don’t care about the kids, then what is their true motivation, gee?

The Democrats push for all manner of perversion, live in a city full of wh-orehouses, strip clubs, massage parlors, gay bath houses, live in the midst of a bondage and fetish-orama, but the only peep we hear from them is about 1 Republican visiting a prostitute.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

By Duh is for Andy

July 18, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Who by his lack of response says he likes pedophelia……

By getalife

July 18, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

“The hypocrisy is overwhelming”

Duh.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Duh is right. Only the Democrats pushed for the Catholic Church to be held accountable. I think the plaintiff’s were funded by the DNC weren’t they? However, Democrats “push” for preversion. Haven’t you seen that? I think its in the Party Platform that “perversion is good unless committed by Church people then its about the children.” This IS hypocrisy.

One might ask whether it is hypocritical to try to overturn the will of the people by impeaching a President for lying while championing the cause of a Republican caught for the same offense or whether it is hypocritical for pro-family candidates to pay for sex.

Those people who ask such questions should shut up and let me live in a world where I control the facts to suit my preconceived notion of the world. Right is Good! Left is evil! That is all I need to know. That is all I need to know! I already have the damn answer. I just said it. Don’t try to use facts to change my mind. I am right. You are wrong. That’s it. End of discussion. I will not let facts or events alter my belief that we are always right and you are always wrong. We are always good. You are always evil.

That is why we are the only people who can truly unite the country. (Once we kill the people who disagree with me, that is.)

It is true that the Nazis committed genocide by killing Jews and others. I agree because being Jewish isn’t something you can control. Being a liberal is different. You are choosing to be treasonous, perverts. Therefore rounding all of you up and killing you, while similar to the Nazis, is really entirely different. If you don’t think we’d do it if we could get away with it you are smoking too much lib weed.

RWNJIFG

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

July 18, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

-=-

I just hope some of these outspoken people here will think about one very important thing while defending the church’s responsibility. Especially when the church is in charge of taking care of both these kids and responsible for overseeing their teachers/priest conduct.

What would you do if it had been YOUR child~!???

Thomas

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

{{{By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Until the Church in Rome removes the man-made prohibition against married priests they will continue to create an environment condusive to pedophilia.}}}

Mrs G.

Since these particular Catholic Priests aren’t going after little girls as the objects of their pedophilia, what good is marriage going to do?

And are we to believe that marriage would cure them of their perverse instincts to engage in sex with little boys?

Isn’t the problem with the men themselves, not with the church’s restrictions against marriage?

By @@

July 18, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Oops! I just read your 9:24 Bosch about anatomically correct words. Here’s a little something that you might enjoy.

I’m one of those parents who taught my daughter the specifics regarding sex. Never withheld anything. Used the anatomically correct words. Our discussions began when she started asking questions at a very young age. I covered it all from the psychological, emotional and physical aspects. Consequences were included as well. I wanted her to know that they were an inescapable reality. Wishful thinking would only land her in a predicament she wouldn’t be able to escape because her father and I are parents who believe that consequences are critical to learning.

My daughter is now 22. Recently she was telling me about a gathering of herself and her friends, mostly guys. The conversation went to anatomy. The guys were asking the girls, what do you call “it”?

Every one of the girls had a name for “it”, but “it” wasn’t vagina. I can’t remember what the other girls had named theirs, but my daughter calls hers “Suzie”. Why would she do that if I had taught her the correct name?

The guys found all the names given by each girl to be cute and adorable.

Why do you think that is Bosch? Is it because there are some guys who still enjoy a little “modesty” in women.

I know it was what attracted my husband to me; that and my innocence. It may not be what all men are looking for, but that’s where the shame comes in.

Ain’t it a shame that modesty and innocence is no longer seen as a “valuable asset”?

A “Lucy” goosey is all the rage, and what our society encourages. Doesn’t speak well for humanity now does it?

We discourage “self respect” and encourage the freedom to “disrespect”.

By Left wing nut job in full hypocrisy

July 18, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

It’s o.k. to use soldier’s coffins and the suffering of children, as long as you are attacking a Republican.

Cause we’re better than you.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

If it had been my child I would have taken him to a Priest and explained that my son has a problem with seducing members of the cloth. I would have then turned him over to the Priest for some intensive, one-on-one, counseling. Then I would have encouraged the Priests who were victimized by my son to either seek legal remedies or give the victims an opportunity to punish him privately.

The important thing is to remember that because the Church is good that no bad can come from it. It is the same thing with the GOP. It is inherently good. No evil can come from it, ever. The inverse is true of Democrats. They are evil through and through. They can do no good, ever.

If you simplify the world like this it is so easy to move through life because you know the answer before the question is asked.

Iraq War? Who likes it? Bush? Then so do I.

Intervention into the former Yugoslavia? Whose for it? Clinton? Then that is the stupidest idea ever.

RWNJIFG

By getalife

July 18, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Well, at least I have one Senator who is not a diaper boy

Gop blocked Reed/Levin 52-47 with 4 gop voted yes.

The Dems will never get 60 votes with the gop obstructing.

The only way to stop the Iraq occupation and the wasted lives and billions will be the gop caving due to elections or a Dem President.

By Truthman

July 18, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Religion - Bad!

Rely on self - Good!!

Family Values - Good!

Family Values of Neo-con gay haters - Bad!!

Going to the bathroom - Good!

Neo-con gay basher propositioning a cop for a BJ over the bathroom stall - Bad.

Being a hero after Sept. 11 - Good!

Being a schmuck most of the rest of the time - Bad!

Sociopaths in Jail - Good!

Sociopaths as VP and Prez advisor - Very Bad!!

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Video proof of Republican lies (as if we needed any)

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

{{If you simplify the world like this it is so easy to move through life because you know the answer before the question is asked.}}

Nut Job— you’ve summarized very succinctly the outlook of the trolls who post here every day.

By Truthman

July 18, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Here’s how much your POS Chimperor cares about my troops!!

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fthe.honoluluadvertiser.com%2Farticle%2F2007%2FJul%2F16%2Fln%2FFP707160308.html

Go ahead, defend him because his name isn’t “Clinton!”

The blood is on your hands as much his!

By moonbat betty

July 18, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Free Obama, Nuke Pakistan

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Buy whatever GOP says - “Since these particular Catholic Priests aren’t going after little girls as the objects of their pedophilia, what good is marriage going to do?”

Surely you aren’t suggesting that all these priests are gay…I guess the whole catholic church is one big horny gayfest, huh?. I’ll try to break it down for you, simpleton…it is suppression that begets perversion. These priests are going after our children because they’re natural human sexual urges have been demonized into something terribly unnatural and taboo. Like it or not, humans are sexual beings…even priests. And yes, you dumb fart…they are abusing girls too.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

@@, I enjoy modesty not only in women, but men also, I enjoy DECENCY in everybody. Innocence? That’s a matter of opinion, and a person’s own experiences and belief system. What is “innocent” to me isn’t so “innocent” to another.

IMNO, it’s hard to judge modesty and innocence, but you can judge just good old common sense and decency.

Like I said earlier, I think many of the sexual malfeasances we have in our society today is due to the absolutely Puritanical views we have on sex. Sex is seen as something bad and dirty instead of just plain old human nature. No, I do not like promiscuity and I certainly would not let my daughter run around in some of the outfits I see other “tweens” wear, but I think that until we get over our fear of sex in general and view it as a part of nature, we are still going to have these problems.

I think that the environment of some churches just breeds these types of malfeasances. Catholic priests? Well, IMHO, it’s just not NATURAL for adults to not have sex based on something said in a book (the Bible). Humans have urges and it’s instinctual, and if you go against your instinct, well, that’s just not how our bodies are made.

I’m not bashing on Baptists here either, it’s just the denomination I grew up in. They suppress sex (and women) as well, sex is something evil and dirty to them (at least at Mother Bosch’s church). Scary place. Again, it just isn’t natural - it’s not how our bodies were designed.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

{{I really hate it that I feel the way I do, I do believe in the death penalty.}}

Totally understood, Bosch! Back when Tim McVeigh was being sentenced to death, I anguished for a few minutes about that. But then realized that if there was ever a reason to condone the death penalty, it would be for terrorists such as him or Eric Rudolph, who purposefully killed many innocent people to fulfill his own jihad. Just like I think we should quickly kill Bin Laden when we find him… sadly, that will only occur when we get a Dem president back in the White House!

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot, Hello! Yes, you are right, you said it much more simplier than I did, “suppression begets perversion.” Your body is going to find a way to do what it instinctually wants to do, by any means necessary — it’s just how the human body is programmed.

By what's a hand for?

July 18, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot: “it is suppression that begets perversion.”

ask rushncap..

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Good Afternoon

You do bring up an excellent point.

First, allowing Catholic clergy to marry will bring in a much larger number of young men into the clergy. I have two brothers who would be thrilled to have the opportunity to be priests. Their wives would be highly supportive.

I agree with raisedanidiot that sexual repression is a large part of the problem.

I would go a step further and suggest the ordination of women as well.

Marriage may cure some of men’s “instincts” but I like you do not think that pedophelia would be one of them. The love, comfort and intimacy one should find in their marriage could certainly do no harm.

The problem is with both the men themselves and the Church’s continued ban of married clergy. As well, as the Church’s really poor record of dealing with the offenders.

There is plenty of responsibility to go around.

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Hi Bosch! Did you see my post yesterday? I got to see my kids this past week…I feel about a 1000 pds lighter. I too wrestled with the capital punishment thingie for a long time. It would be much harder to process after being traumatized I’m sure. I believe that there are certainly those that deserve death…but the real question is who’s place is it to bring about justification through death…ours? the government? god? I just can’t answer that…what I do know is that life is a cycle of cause and effect…just as suppression begets perversion…violence begets violence…revenge begets revenge…that negative energy never leaves, it just cycles around. Call me an idealist, but I don’t see any real justification in violence…ever.

Good to be back;)

By From a lawyer who has handled many death penalty cases

July 18, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

The problem with the Death Penalty isn’t that there are some who deserve it. There certainly are. The problem arises when men set up guidelines for who gets it and then those guidelines ensnare people who don’t fit the mold of the extreme cases cited. For example, in some states if you shoot a person in the street: no death penalty. You shoot a person in a car: death penalty. You shoot a person for fun: no death penalty. You shoot a person for his money: death penalty.

Further, most people charged with capital murder have terrible, pathetic attorneys that you wouldn’t hire to handle a speeding ticket. This leads to haphazard results that are not at all consistent with the quality of the offense or the charecter of the accused. In other words if you were given a set of cases you couldn’t reliably pick out the ones where the death penalty was imposed.

In addition, different areas have different patterns with respect to the death penalty. Most people speak of the differnces between black and white defendants and black and white victims. However, the real disparity comes into play when you look at the community where the offense occured. In very white communities, the death penalty is rare. In very black communities the death penalty is rare. However, if you look at areas where the minority population is near 40%, the death penalty is common. Why? The white people are afraid and the death penalty seems to be the answer.

Another problem with the death penalty is this. My experience is that the more serious the offense the more likely the person is innocent. In other words, almost all people charged with stealing are guilty. When it comes to more serious offense like child molestation, murder, rape, etc… the chances that the person charged didn’t do it goes up dramatically. The are many reasons for this including te pressure on law enforcement and the pressure they put on potential witnesses. There are others too, but the point remains that there area lot of innocent people charged with these sorts of offenses. That is why there have been well over 100 people released from Death Row over the last decade.

Another issue is that when a guilty guy gets offered life without parole: he takes it. An innocent guy gets offered life without parole he is going to take his chances with a jury. They often lose.

By dd

July 18, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

The catholic church is not a scam.

There are no more child abusers as a % of population there as compared to any other population.

It’s a human problem, not a religious problem.

Christ put a church on the planet. Read about it, then blog.

It’s your soul, fools.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Hey again Raisedanidiot! No, I didn’t see your post, but I’m glad you got to visit with your children - they really are the pride of your life aren’t they?

I’m really glad that you got to see them, but are totally disgusted that you are in the situation you are in. That’s really just a travesty of justice.

Well, yes, like I said, I do feel bad sometimes that I’m bitter like that and feel the way I do, but trauma can have a pretty profound effect on a person.

I used to be dead set AGAINST the death penalty, but there’s nothing like seeing a friend (both of whom were horribly stabbed to death) lying in a coffin (one whose throat was cut so severely he had to be buried in a turtleneck that went up to his upper lip - and the other was stabbed so many times, he even had stab wounds through both his eye sockets - that’s why I TOTALLY believe in cremation - no one should see that).

After that, I was like, SIGH, yeah, okay, nevermind.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

dd

I don’t think the Catholic Church IS a scam.

I seriously doubt your stat on % in the population. Can you site a reliable source?

Did Christ put his Church on this planet with specific operational instructions? I mean the new testament is a great start for Christian faithfulness, but the Church itself has time and time again sinned - and sinned big time.

The Castrati? The Inquisition? Turning a blind eye on the holocaust?

I know it is my soul, you silly man!

You see one of the gifts I was given was intellect. I can see clearly the occasional difference between the teachings of Christ and the dogma of the Church. Can’t you?

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Over half of all donations from members of the military are going to Ron Paul. Gee, I wonder what he could be saying to cause that

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Cementing the reputation of the GOP as the party of fiscal responsibility; the top three Repubican Presidential Hopefuls have outspent their democratic rivals by $20 million, despite lagging them in fund-raising by nearly $40 million

By @@

July 18, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Bosch:

I have NEVER seen in the Bible where sex is described as “unnatural”. To the contrary…it’s the reason and purpose as to why we’re here. I have attended both Baptist and Methodist churches. I have NEVER heard a sermon that claims sex as a dirty act. It is always put forth as a natural instinct and is therefore not a sin within itself. The consequences are the focus. There can be a welcome results or those wrought with difficulties. That’s why we are asked to be responsible when considering it. The difficult consequences are visited upon our children. That, to me is the greatest incentive to be responsible with our bodies.

Bosch, I’m not sure what message you’ve received from the pulpit, but those I’ve received and the sermons my friends have received are nothing like the church directives you speak about.

Natural urges aren’t in debate here. They are acknowledged by the church. We’re being asked to behave better than animals and use the reasoning God gave us.

Sometimes I see you as reasonable. Other times, I have to question your true objectives.

We are a society that in the interest of the individual’s right, are eagerly destroying our children.

I don’t have time to find it right now, but a study was done by a “secular” psychologist/sociologist who does a great job in pointing out the results and unintended consequences of the sexual revolution in this country.

It’s perpetual and it isn’t pretty.

Out for awhile.

By Truthman

July 18, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Why do so many of you cling to your medieval, paternalistic and rather barbaric religious beliefs. I know I’m in the south, but this is 2007!?!

What kind of god would creat a “hell?”

What kind of god was a miracle machine 2,000 years ago, but can’t stop stupid humans from slaughtering each other?

You can’t believe the peace I feel knowing that the person who looks back at me in the mirror is the master of my ship, not some mythical moral crossing guard.

No religion? Know peace!

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Bosch— re: funerals: I was raised here in GA where it is common practice to have an open coffin at a funeral. Still wigs me out! And I’ve told family members that I have put in writing in my will that I prefer to be cremated after I die. Many years ago my mom stated something like “we’ve never done cremation in my family”, and I told her that it really would not matter to me what she decides to do after I’m dead, but that she needs to know what my wishes were… she seemed to be OK with that statement.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

{{You see one of the gifts I was given was intellect. I can see clearly the occasional difference between the teachings of Christ and the dogma of the Church. Can’t you?}}

I’m with you, Mrs. G… I also think that what has developed in our organized Christian sects is not necessarily what Jesus had in mind. After all, it was his apostles who started the church, and we all know what a mixed blessing those guys were!

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Goldie

AND if you read history, you find that some of those followers were WOMEN.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

@@, You misunderstood me, I’ll explain later, I’m on my way out for a bit.

Seriously, I didn’t mean that I’ve heard that in sermons, because I never have, I’ll write more later - I agree with you for the most part - we just have a misunderstanding.

Goldie, Yeah, it’s freaky huh? Gross.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Any bets as to how long it is until “God” changes his mind and allows the One True Catholic Apostolic church priests to marry again? I’m betting within the decade, but I may be overly optimistic. Probably not while the Nazi Pope is in charge, but maybe if they elect someone more reasonable than Ratz after he passes away. I don’t think even the Catholic church with their deep deep deeeeeeeeeep pockets can afford to keep paying out hundreds of millions of $s every time one of theirs jerks off a bunch of altar boys.

P.S. Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that @@ goes around telling us what her daughter names her sexual organs? That’s beyond creepy.

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Bosch -Hey again Raisedanidiot! No, I didn’t see your post, but I’m glad you got to visit with your children - they really are the pride of your life aren’t they?

sorry for the slow response, I’m getting pork chop all over the key board…yuck. Yes, indeedie they are the pride of my life. And it chaps my ex’s a$$ (a baptist preacher) that they all 3 look exactly like me.

dd at 12:53…you christians crack me up…you have no world view…you act as if the world didn’t exist before christianity…actually there were many churches long before god decided to grace us with his presense 2000 yrs. ago…”church” is NOT a christian invention…get your head out of your a$$ and deal with life on life’s terms.

By knowing

July 18, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

rushncap’s proclivities for perversion he was disappointed @@s daughter didn’t call it c**. It could have started the creep wanking.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

knowing,

what an interesting and colorful addition to the discussion you have made!

aren’t you proud!

By Al Gorithm

July 18, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

All knowing, don’t be such a p-ussy.

By getalife

July 18, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Way too much perverted information by @@ and knowing.

“Suzie”?

Geez.

I think @@ asking herself perverted questions is creepy.

And knowing is just a pervert

Geez, wingnut freak show.

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

rushncap…must have struck a nerve, they’re resorting to personal attacks again. the catholic church has more money than god…they could probably single-handedly stop world hunger if they wanted to…instead they prefer to spend parishoners money on sexual abuse insurance…cause ya just can’t have too much of that.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Raised — in the case of Catholic church, apparently you can’t have too much.

Getalife — do you think @@’s daughter would slap her open-hand or back-hand if she found out her mommy’s posting her very private information online for all to see?

By mm

July 18, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Let’s not forget the Catholic church forbids birth control. They need more Catholics (thus more money).

By TAZ

July 18, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

The problem with the RCC isn’t just Pedofilia. The problem is their incessent attemp at Power and Control. Celebacy, (not geting married,) is the result of a loss of Property by the Bishops: Priest “Owns” bennifis (Parish) when he dies, kids can inheraity by law. All revenues then,are no longer the “property” of the Bishop or Diocies…… Get rid of married Priests, get rid of loss of revenues and property: simple!

Despite this scandle, (repeated in most countries in the World,) or the transport of English Children to Austrailia in WWII, by Crown and Clergy, to be slave labor by religious & secular communities, or The Abuse of Canadian Indiginous people by Catholic and Prots alike, (for which THEY are paying huges fines that have close churches.) Catholioc Churches do produce good and Holy people & Clergy who do the Message of the Gospels. The problem, like with Corporate malfesience, which we have recently whitnesses: ENRON et al., are the product of Heiarchs who are out of Control. Not to deminish the role of the Individual Priest, but it was the Bishops who, to cover thir asses, moved Pedofiles around and covered for them, (the Classic Good old Boys’ Club !) Mahoney and his ilk, should have been brought to Court and Charged with aiding and abetting these crimes but, as in the case of Cardinal Law of Boston, they usually get promoted and or hidden away in the Vatican where the light of truth, or of Day, will never touch them. Lord Acton, ( British and Catholic,) put it most sucently: “Power Corupts; Absolute power corrupts, absoulutely!” Celebacy, still has a value, like giving up smoking, or Chocolate…IF the Individual Chooses to do it! I is a legitimate “good”. To be forced to give it up, and attache them to another “good” (ordination,) is at best stupid. AS one who was abused as a child (teenager,) I have not sought monitary compensation, my choice, But I am suportive of all those who have. I choose to handle my abuse differently. I, thought like many, feel that the Bishops and Cardinals have got off easy. I don’t want them to suffer, I just want them to admit they have done wrong, (one of the necessary factors for real Reconsilliating/ Confession,)in covering up the abuse. The restitution/ Penance ( also necessary for real Contrition, ) is both individual and collective. As a Liturgist, I beleive they need to do a Pub

By TAZ

July 18, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

The problem with the RCC isn’t just Pedofilia. The problem is their incessent attemp at Power and Control. Celebacy, (not geting married,) is the result of a loss of Property by the Bishops: Priest “Owns” bennifis (Parish) when he dies, kids can inheraity by law. All revenues then,are no longer the “property” of the Bishop or Diocies…… Get rid of married Priests, get rid of loss of revenues and property: simple!

Despite this scandle, (repeated in most countries in the World,) or the transport of English Children to Austrailia in WWII, by Crown and Clergy, to be slave labor by religious & secular communities, or The Abuse of Canadian Indiginous people by Catholic and Prots alike, (for which THEY are paying huges fines that have close churches.) Catholioc Churches do produce good and Holy people & Clergy who do the Message of the Gospels. The problem, like with Corporate malfesience, which we have recently whitnesses: ENRON et al., are the product of Heiarchs who are out of Control. Not to deminish the role of the Individual Priest, but it was the Bishops who, to cover thir asses, moved Pedofiles around and covered for them, (the Classic Good old Boys’ Club !) Mahoney and his ilk, should have been brought to Court and Charged with aiding and abetting these crimes but, as in the case of Cardinal Law of Boston, they usually get promoted and or hidden away in the Vatican where the light of truth, or of Day, will never touch them. Lord Acton, ( British and Catholic,) put it most sucently: “Power Corupts; Absolute power corrupts, absoulutely!” Celebacy, still has a value, like giving up smoking, or Chocolate…IF the Individual Chooses to do it! I is a legitimate “good”. To be forced to give it up, and attache them to another “good” (ordination,) is at best stupid. AS one who was abused as a child (teenager,) I have not sought monitary compensation, my choice, But I am suportive of all those who have. I choose to handle my abuse differently. I, thought like many, feel that the Bishops and Cardinals have got off easy. I don’t want them to suffer, I just want them to admit they have done wrong, (one of the necessary factors for real Reconsilliating/ Confession,)in covering up the abuse. The restitution/ Penance ( also necessary for real Contrition, ) is both individual and collective. As a Liturgist, I beleive they need to do a Pub

By TAZ

July 18, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

humm… seems I was cut off while posting. to finish ;… As a Liturgist, I feel that they need to do a Public and personal Penance. Giving Money isn’t all of it!

They need to Publicly admit to their individual and their colective wrong doing, and show, exactly what they, individually will do, so that it can never happen again. That’s a big order I know. Untill they do it, neither God will forgive them, or will their people! Partial or Monitary contrition just doesn’t cut it!

Pax et Bonum, Taz

By dd

July 18, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

It’s our own observation of christ’s view from the cross.

Spin it yourself, and leave me out of it.

I know who He is. I read his book. I listened to his disciples.

You? You’re chafe to be gnashed.

God gets more worship from a rock just being a rock than in all your shouted righteous prayers, oh lost one.

You think nothing you do has merit? Try prayer. Prayer has merit.

By The Watcher

July 18, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

methinks, somebody has been sneaking the sacremental wine.

By @@

July 18, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

(((Getalife — do you think @@’s daughter would slap her open-hand or back-hand if she found out her mommy’s posting her very private information online for all to see?)))

Neither, she is totally uninhibited. My gawd, if she said it in a large group of people, some she didn’t know personally, would you have me believe that they haven’t shared the info. She’s too smart to think they might not. She holds firm in the belief that if you don’t want something repeated then don’t say it.

Getalife:

I’ll deliver a real shock for ‘ya.

You may not recall, but once some time back my daughter visited Luckovich’s and posted a message to me using her real name. She’s naive in that respect.

What happened?

Someone from your side namejacked her and posted a comment that she would never have posted. But wait….

that was your side taking advantage of her naitivite. Those kind of “indiscretions” are conveniently overlooked when delivered by a liberal progressive here.

What was I thinking? I forgot the liberal mantra. “Freedom for me, but not for thee.”

And for the record, I don’t shy away from the discussion of sex provided it is delivered with good intentions.

See ‘ya.

By getalife

July 18, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

@@ is taking embarrassing her children to a new level.

“Suzie” is a weird name for a vagina.

Geez.

By JH

July 18, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Prayer has merit?

Prayer is useless.

It is just like saying I’m sorry; merely an excuse to use instead of actually DOING something constructive to help.

Clarity comes from within. Morality and righteousness come from within. EVERYTHING comes from within.

But if it makes you feel better about yourself, go ahead. It’s your life.

And though you would and will no doubt speak for him/her/it, oh found one, get over yourself.

Whether or not god exists is irrelevant.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

@@, “I have NEVER seen in the Bible where sex is described as “unnatural”. AND “I have NEVER heard a sermon that claims sex as a dirty act.”

I didn’t say that in my earlier posts, is that what you inferred from my 12:19 post? Because that’s not what I meant. That’s the only post of mine today where I think you may have thought that, if I’m wrong, let me know.

I have never heard a preacher say that sex is unnatural in a sermon or have read that in the Bible either.

Raisedanidiot - Oh my God! Your ex is a Baptist preacher? That is so classic! No wonder you are having so much difficulty. I’m so sorry to hear that. In his eyes, you must be the devil incarnate.

Seriously, I really am sorry that you are going through this, and I hope your situation works out to where you can see your children more often. I could never imagine your heartbreak, but hang tough.

By John Fogarty

July 18, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

OH SUZIE Q!!! OH SUZIE Q!! OH SUZIE Q BABY I LOVE YOU, OH SUZIE Q!!!

By Virginia Vagina

July 18, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

I don’t think Suzie is a weird name at all, especially when you think of all the silly names men or their partners call mens equipment.

How about Big John and the twins?

Robin Williams calls his Mr Happy.

I think teaching the proper words is right on, but let’s not forget some of the silly fun too.

By Bosch

July 18, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Watcher, Methinks you are correct!

By Bosch Dosch

July 18, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Boy have YOU found a home. (a home with devils in it, who have grasped your soul and thus you shall reap what they sow, eternal damnation.)

just kidding. have a nice day, satan.

bwa

By dd

July 18, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

I wasn’t saying that, wipesfree. I merely was pointing out that nothing you’ve ever done or said had merit.

bwa (how does it feel?)

try prayer. prayer has merit. You can save yourself, but I doubt you think your soul is worth it.

You’re just another face on a planet that held 100 billion faces.

be different. impress god for a change.

I SAID IMPRESS GOD!!!

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Surely my eyes are failing me and you don’t believe the nonsense that raiseanidiot is spouting about the causes of pedophilia!

{{{{By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Surely you aren’t suggesting that all these priests are gay…I guess the whole catholic church is one big horny gayfest, huh?….And yes, you dumb fart…they are abusing girls too.}}}

Livinglifeasanidiot,

I am saying that it is a fact that it is overwhelmingly the case that PEDOPHILE PRIESTS go after young men, not young girls. Prove me wrong, you freaking jackass.

{{{I’ll try to break it down for you, simpleton…it is suppression that begets perversion. These priests are going after our children because they’re natural human sexual urges have been demonized into something terribly unnatural and taboo. Like it or not, humans are sexual beings…even priests. }}}

Oh, so perfectly normal men who become celibate Priests somehow become attracted almost exclusively to young boys (and not, say, other adult Priests) and the cause is “sexual repression”?

Surely you can back that hypothesis up with some cold, hard data!

Be sure to fill us in how millions of pedophiles who are not celibate Priests, and many of whom are married, are “oppressed” (by “society” no doubt).

Yep, if only they could have sex whenever they want it, with whomever they want it as their “urges” require, there would be no more Pedophilia!

By Virginia Vagina

July 18, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Satan what do you call yours?

“The little Devil?”

By Lord Help Us

July 18, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

Unbelievable…

The just released NIE is a damning indictment of the Bush Administrations’ incompetence.

Yet, the mouthpieces have the audacity to claim this horrid assessment somehow validates its strategy!!

WHAT IN HEAVENS NAME WOULD THE NIE HAVE TO REVEAL THAT WOULD CAUSE THIS ADMINISTRATION (or its enablers) TO QUESTION THEIR INCOMPETENCE!!

By getalife

July 18, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

@@,

I do not recall but I have warned several posters to not post personal information because dusty will use it against you.

I am guessing her name is Susan then “Suzie” would make a little bit of sense.

Toodles.

Geez.

By Jethro Tull

July 18, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

For Andy,

..1 In the beginning Man created God; and in the image of Man created he him.

…2 And Man gave unto God a multitude of names,that he might be Lord of all the earth when it was suited to Man

…3 And on the seven millionth day Man rested and did lean heavily on his God and saw that it was good.

…4 And Man formed Aqualung, the ultimate manifestation of human evil, of the dust of the ground, and a host of others likened unto his kind.

…5 And these lesser men were cast into the void; And some were burned, and some were put apart from their kind.

…6 And Man became the God that he had created and with his miracles did rule over all the earth.

…7 But as all these things came to pass, the Spirit that did cause man to create his God lived on within all men: even within Aqualung.

…8 And man saw it not.

…9 But for Christ’s sake he’d better start looking.

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

“After years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq and targeted killings in Yemen, Pakistan and elsewhere, the major threat to the United States has the same name and the same basic look as in 2001: Al Qaeda, led by Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri, plotting attacks from mountain hide-outs near the Afghan-Pakistani border.” - News analysis by Scott Shane in the NYT

WE’RE WINNING!

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance — that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I certainly do think Sexual Repression causes problems. I find it mind boggling that you do not.

Does it turn perfectly normal men who live celibate into raging pedophiles? No, don’t be silly. Perfectly normal men are “NORMAL”, therefore not repressed.

Celibacy and Sexual Repression are not the same thing. Interconnected in some individuals to be sure.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

@@ — I guarantee you that unless your daughter is selling it on the street corner, she will not want you sharing stuff like that with a bunch of total strangers who have never met her.

Oh, and by the way, what “good intentions” do you have when you constantly talk about me masturbating? Just wondering.

This is becoming too easy. @@ is starting to lose it. Maybe it’s just today.

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con,

The highest-ranking Iraqi leader of al-Qaida in Iraq has been arrested and told interrogators that Osama bin Laden’s inner circle wields considerable influence over the Iraqi group, the U.S. command said Wednesday.

We’re not losing.

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

had to go see a man about a horse..back now

Ms. Godzilla…well said. Anytime we speak in generalities, we’re bound to be wrong part of the time. BD was making broad statements about the sexuality of the priests…life doesn’t work that way. I’m sure each individual pedophil priest has unique reasons or excuses for doing what they did…sexual orientation has nothing to do with perversion…from what I understand it has very little to do with sex, and a lot to do with power and control.

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Now we’ve gone from pedophilia to “problems”?

I didn’t realize that “problems” was the topic du jour.

Maybe we should have Dr. Ruth chime in.

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

If you can’t stomach hypocritical young Republican chickenhawks don’t watch this video

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Of course we’re not losing, Muffin! We’re “making progress”. For the past 5 years. And at this pace of “progress”, we’ll be done in a mere 150-175 years.

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Buy Dhimmmi - Did I say we were losing?

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

{{{BD was making broad statements about the sexuality of the priests…life doesn’t work that way. BLAH BLAH BLAH}}

Liveslifelikeanimbecile,

You’re the one making “broad statements”, Clown.

I said NOTHING about the sexuality of Priests - I did say something about WHO THEIR VICTIMS WERE.

YOU are the one giving “causes” for Pedophilia, not me, which you BROADLY attributed to “sexual repression”.

All I am doing is debunking your junk science.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Sweetie, since my original statement was

“I agree with raisedanidiot that sexual repression is a large part of the problem.”

I don’t get the jist of your post. That is unless it just a jab.

I would love to have Dr. Ruth chime in. Knowledge is good. Ignorance is bad.

By Anti-CON®

July 18, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Up Close and Personal at the Filibuster

Now THAT’S the way to handle Congresscritters!

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con,

Oh, so we ARE winning!

Thanks for straightening me out.

Do you have any other pointless points to make?

By AmVet

July 18, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, Anti-CON, don’t be so hard on the young Republicans.

They just have “priorities other than military service.”

And so one generation of cowards begets another.

Bring back the draft and we’ll see how motivated and “fight them over there so WE(?) don’t have to fight them over here” pro-war these punks are.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

“Nearly 60 percent of readers who participated in a recent Military.com poll said the United States should withdraw its troops from Iraq now or by the end of 2008.”

Why don’t these liberal, treasonous, scumbags support the troops? I can’t believe that these pinkos want to embolden the enemy like this. What do these unpatriotic morons know anyway?

Is it just me or is the whole damn world going leftist? It’s almost as if the numbers of right thinking, good, patriotic Americans are dwindling to nothing. This must be the work of the devil. The end is surely near…..

RWNJIFG

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

buy danish 11:44 Since these particular Catholic Priests aren’t going after little girls as the objects of their pedophilia, what good is marriage going to do?

And are we to believe that marriage would cure them of their perverse instincts to engage in sex with little boys?

Isn’t the problem with the men themselves, not with the church’s restrictions against marriage?

If your inference was not pertaining to the sexuality of the priests, I do profusely appologize…I don’t know another way to interpret your post…please expound.

and uh, I don’t think you have any grounds to comment on how I live, since you do not know me…god willing, never will.

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

The “problem” that I addressed was specifically Pedophilia in Priests and what role access to marriage plays in preventing it.

You have veered off topic and stretched the “problem” to be virtually anything that causes people to be “sexually repressed”.

Despite your eagerness to engage others on these topics, I am not going to engage in such a broad and irrelevant discussion as it would be a pointless endeavor.

By @@

July 18, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

(((@@ — I guarantee you that unless your daughter is selling it on the street corner, she will not want you sharing stuff like that with a bunch of total strangers who have never met her.)))

That’s ^^^ funny rushncap. You “KNOW” how my daughter feels, but you’re a total stranger? Hmmmmmm, wanna try again?

(((Oh, and by the way, what “good intentions” do you have when you constantly talk about me masturbating? Just wondering.)))

Child psychology…always get down at the child’s eye level. That way, they don’t suffer feelings of intimidation. Oddly enough, that doesn’t seem to work with you rushncap. I still intimidate you with what you perceive as my feelings of superiority.

You can’t stop mentioning it…my superiority. I’m only here to kiss your emotional boo boos.

Getalife:

Toodles? Call ‘em what they are dammit, they’re testicles.

Leaving again, see ‘ya.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

One reason we have failed in fighting terrorism is because we’ve got too much of our resources bogged down in the occupation of Iraq:

President Bush’s top counterterrorism advisers acknowledged Tuesday that the strategy for fighting Osama bin Laden’s leadership of Al Qaeda in Pakistan had failed, as the White House released a grim new intelligence assessment that has forced the administration to consider more aggressive measures inside Pakistan.

Once again I ask, what was the big hurry in overthrowing Saddam Hussein in 2003, when we had yet to contain or defeat Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Bush’s “war on terror” is an abysmal failure.

By @@

July 18, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

A quick post to Bosch @ 2:48.

You didn’t say that at 12:19?

(((IMHO, it’s just not ——>NATURAL<—-for adults to —->not have sex<—- based on something said in a book ——>(the Bible)<——.)))

(((it’s just the —->denomination<—- I grew up in. They suppress sex (and women) as well, —->sex is something evil and dirty to them<—-)))

Maybe you didn’t mean to say it, but you sure inferred it.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

@@ — I never said you were superior. You just want US to think that you are. That’s your problem. You’re smart enough to know that you’re not all that bright, and not that decent a person, and that seems to be driving you nuts. Not my problem.

Anything else about your daughter you want to unload on us? Maybe tell us which positions she prefers? You sick sick b!tch…

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

No Buy Danish, I have not veered off topic.

No Buy Danish, I have not stretched the “problem” to be virtually anything that causes people to be “sexually repressed”.

But Yes, Buy Danish I agree that continuing this discussion with you is a pointless endeavor, as I don’t consider pedophelia or sexual repression or celibacy irrelevant.

But that’s ok.

Have I ever mentioned that you are a damn fine speller? Really.

By IN THE NEWS

July 18, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Generation Chickenhawk: the Unauthorized College Republican Convention Tour

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Dontcha love those College Republicans with their excuses for not fighting in the “cause of their time”? They’re just as disgusting as “No-Show Bush” and “5-Deferments Cheney” were during the Viet Nam war and that “noble cause”…

Yet when I asked these College Repulicans why they were not participating in this historical cause, they immediately went into contortions. Asthma. Bad knees from playing catcher in high school. “Medical reasons.” “It’s not for me.” These were some of the excuses College Republicans offered for why they could not fight them “over there.”

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Mrs Gozilla,

YOU said:

{{{By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I certainly do think Sexual Repression causes problems. I find it mind boggling that you do not.}}}

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

{{Is it just me or is the whole damn world going leftist? It’s almost as if the numbers of right thinking, good, patriotic Americans are dwindling to nothing.}}

Nut Job— that percentage varies between 23% and 29% from week-to-week. You’re commonly referred to as the Delusional 29% Club. And that’s being generous.

By IN THE NEWS

July 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

GOLDIE

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT GREAT MINDS!

By Duh stands for Democrat

July 18, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

{{{{{By Goldie July 18, 2007 4:24 PM President Bush’s top counterterrorism advisers acknowledged Tuesday that the strategy for fighting Osama bin Laden’s leadership of Al Qaeda in Pakistan had failed, as the White House released a grim new intelligence assessment that has forced the administration to consider more aggressive measures inside Pakistan.}}}}}}}}

So who wants to break the news to Goldim that “more aggressive measures inside of Pakistan” is not some code word for cutting and running from Iraq?

What it does say, for all of you brilliant liberal military tacticians, is that the same country that mobilized 5,000,000 soldiers to fight on two continents defeating both Germany and Japan, really should consider invading Pakistan instead of beating around the, uh, Bush.

You know, take Bin Laden’s creaky as-s out, once and for all?

Duh.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Remember……pointless endeavor?

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

And duh would be the first one to volunteer had he been able to pass the lower-standard psychological test for the army…

By getalife

July 18, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

“You know, take Bin Laden’s creaky as-s out, once and for all?

Duh.”

Duh.

That Max Blumenthal video nailed the gop cowards.

Pathetic losers.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Sigh. Another day, another post lost.

Liveslifelikeanidiot,

Liberals on this blog always tell us that Pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality.

If you think that the two are connected, be prepared to be taken to task by them for making that connection.

I merely stated that I didn’t see how marriage was going to cure them of their perverse desire to prey on little boys, which is who most victims of Priestly Pedophilia are.

Can you not at least agree that claiming that marriage is the answer is counterintuitive?

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Gozilla,

Discussing the broad topic of sexuality is a pointless endeavor.

Pointing out what you said which led me to conclude that that was your wish is not pointless in the least.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

{{You know, take Bin Laden’s creaky as-s out, once and for all?}}

So, Andy-Dull, I guess this means you’re ready to enlist to fight in your war and really take his “creaky @ss out” instead of wanking on your computer all day? You and all those other College Republicans who’re going to conventions and Rah-Rah-ing for your guy Bush?

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Muffin — ever wonder why there is so much “gay sex” in prison and on Navy ships? Think about it. If you are capable of thinking, you will pretty quickly realize how letting priests marry solves many of the pedophilia problems.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS— I’m with you, Dude!

By @@

July 18, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

(((@@ — I never said you were superior. You just want US to think that you are. That’s your problem.)))

That’s my problem rushncap? Then why do YOU keep bringing it up? What ARE YOU thinking every time you bring it up?

I’m smart enough to know that “I” can’t MAKE anybody think something about themselves unless they’ve prepared themselves to do so.

You know rushncap, a psychologist always puts the onus on the patient. He/she won’t allow the patient to transfer responsibility. What’s the point? It’s the patient that is looking for emotional/psychological healing. Nobody else can heal their emotional/psychological wounds.

You want to see me as the a-nus when it’s YOUR head that should be examining your personal onus.

By getalife

July 18, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

“As far as Republicans are concerned, I think they need to be condemned for failing to speak the truth about what’s going on in Iraq.”
— the vulgar Pigboy Rush, accidentally telling the truth.

Duh.

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

{{Liberals on this blog always tell us that Pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality.}}

Don’t make me puke, Demented One!

Why don’t you tell that to the parents of the young girls who’ve been kidnapped and killed, such as Polly Klaas?

You’re still stinkin’ up this blog, because you have the f@rts and just can’t help yourself?

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Isn’t marriage just a piece of paper? Ha Ha Ha, but I digress.

Why don’t the Priests shack up or hook up with other Priests (or even some Nuns!) instead of going after young boys?

This is an absurd argument and belies the fact, which I already mentioned hours ago, that there are plenty of married Pedophiles.

I’d sure hate to be the poor woman who is married to one of them, although maybe Libs think it is a reasonable sacrifice to make “for the greater good”.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

I think @@ believes that she made a witty “a-nus vs. o-nus” comment. We’re all very proud of you, @@. Keep up the good work. One of these days you’ll convince someone that you’re a good girl. And remember to smile!

By Goldie

July 18, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

{{One of these days you’ll convince someone that you’re a good girl.}}

Rushncap— I believe Boobs likes to describe herself as “innocent”… pretty hilarious, yes?

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Muffin: “rushncap, Isn’t marriage just a piece of paper?” Probably just yours, Muffin, probably just yours. That’s assuming you’re married, of course, which is a horrible enough thought as is.

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Buy whatever sounds good- I merely stated that I didn’t see how marriage was going to cure them of their perverse desire to prey on little boys, which is who most victims of Priestly Pedophilia are.

Can you not at least agree that claiming that marriage is the answer is counterintuitive?

So let me get this straight…you’re saying that since these priests are mostly interested in little boys, marriage would not benefit them…I do agree that it does seem that pedophile priests have a definate affinity towards boys…however, in the secular world, most victims of sexual abuse are girls (no statistics right now to give you), but thats pretty much a no brainer. Evidently we both agree that sexual orientation has nothing to do with perversion. What all catholic priests do have in common is the inability to marry and have intimate love in their life. Do you contend that marriage would not benefit them simply because the majority of them abuse the same sex, or are you saying that marriage is just a bad idea for these guys anyway? I guess thats where I’m getting confused. None of us can say why any of these sick men did what they did, but doesn’t it stand to reason that if they were offered a normal sex life it would give them at least another option of getting their rocks off?Would it help if we instated gay marriage so they would be benefited? Thats where you’re going with this isn’t it? I knew you were one of us all along :)

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

I agree with Duh with his idea that we expand the war rather than withdraw from Iraq. We should invade Pakistan because that’s where Bin Laden is and they have nukes, Iran because they want nukes and are crazy, Saudi Arabia because they produce more terrorsits per capita than any place in the world, Syria because it supports terrorism, Jordan because it isn’t a democracy, Egypt because it is a breeding ground for terrorists, Venezuala becauuse of Chavez, Cuba because of Castro, China because its Communist, France just because, Great Britain because they invaded in 1812, India just because there are too many of them and they’ve got nukes, and then we need to deal with the enemy within: The libs. We need to exterminate them with extreme prejudice. In fact, after we are done there will be only be about 60,000,000 of us on the planet. As Stalin said, “the death of one man is a tragedy. The deaths of 5.1 billion is just a statistic.”

Kill ‘em all and elect Cheney Emperor of the Universe for Life!

RWNJIFG

By @@

July 18, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

rushncap & Goldie:

Aaahhhhh, I WAS innocent in my youth. I was naive when I began voting for Democrats.

Now I’m wise to the games people play.

When you liberals don’t like the way the game is going, you regress….

take your ball and start tossing it back and forth with the little liberal kids who like you, not the grownups who challenge you.

By unterhunt

July 18, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

The Catholic Church pays sexual abuse insurance, who paid the victims.

They underwrite sin.

That’s all you stuntwits need to know, and you can stfu about it.

I wonder how long the “good hands People” argued that it was an act of god so they wouldn’t have to pay?

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

You are right on the money.

I did say “I certainly do think Sexual Repression causes problems. I find it mind boggling that you do not”

You interpreted it as “You have veered off topic and stretched the “problem” to be virtually anything that causes people to be “sexually repressed”.”

I am so very sorry that you misunderstood. It was a rather open ended statement. If I had meant to say what you interpreted, I would have said that.

So, to make my statement clearer for you, let me edit it to “I certainly do think Sexual Repression causes some of the problems of the pedophile.”

And I apologize also for my pointless endeavor remark. Debate with you, is always a stimulating intellectual excersize.

Peace, my sister?

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

LivelifelikeanIdiot,

I never said that sexual orientation has nothing to do with perversion - I never expressed an opinion one way or another on the matter.

I AM saying that marriage won’t benefit them. I do not believe that their perverse inclinations are a result of a lack of opportunity.

rushncap,

Marriage is “just a piece of paper” was a mantra of the Left until they decided to promote Gay Marriage, when suddenly that piece of paper became very, very important.

Perhaps your youth is responsible for your ignorance of that quaint relic of Leftist activism.

Raisedanidiot and mrs. Godzilla,

While doing a Google Search of “Pedophile Priests+Statistics” I came across this fine piece by Michael Medved.

Finally, many attacks center on the tradition of priestly celibacy, in a spasm of trendy Catholic-bashing that reflects the basest sort of inconsistency. Gay activists and establishment opinion leaders unequivocally insist that homosexual identity is innate and inborn as blue eyes or left-handedness. These same enlightened thinkers then turn around and say that celibacy in the priesthood pushes prelates to pedophilia. If only priests were allowed to marry, the conventional wisdom declares, then they wouldn’t even feel tempted to molest little boys.

AND

{{{Moreover, nearly all victims of child-molesting priests turned out to be little boys, not little girls. If celibacy caused this problem, rather than homosexuality, why wouldn’t straight priests laboring under the same sexual restrictions abuse girls at least as frequently as their colleagues ravished boys?}}}

AND

{{{This uncomfortable question touches another illogical position of those who want to use this scandal as an excuse to attack a traditionalist church. The same people expressing the most strident condemnation of gay priests molesting young boys, also demand public pressure to force the Boy Scouts to embrace gay scout masters – insisting that such leaders present no danger to our sons. }}}

Well said! I yield the floor!

Goodnight.

By Buy Danish

July 18, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Before I run out - if by “repression” you mean parents who make their kids think that the human body or sex in general is vile and dirty, then yes, that probably would contribute to all sorts of “problems”.

However, if you mean that all restraint should be thrown to the wind since sex is just so darn good for you, then I would have to differ with that concept of “repression”.

Final Goodnight!

By raisedanidiot

July 18, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Buy some medication - you are truly a sick puppy. If all catholic priests that abuse boys are gay, then catholics must raise gay men like okra in summer…cuz there’s a lot of em. Maybe I should go catholic, sounds like a good ol’ homo hoedown in them churches! I gotta close up shop folks, peace out, Mrs. G., getalife, rushncap…others Bi-Danish…a good woman might could turn you around, honey.

By getalife

July 18, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

These priests are sick, child rapists .

They have destroyed many lives, boys and girls.

They should be locked up with the rest of the child rapists.

Geez.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Muffin — I don’t care whose “mantra” it was. Unlike you, I don’t have my head up the @ss of any political ideology. I make up my own mind on every matter.

@@ — yes, we all know you used to vote Democrat. What’s your point? You got senile? OK, so why bother spreading it around?

By The Essence of Doom

July 18, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

getalife,

You’re including your own perverted self as well, right? Pornofreak!

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 18, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

Medved?

As a film critic, I find his political critique rather too far right. His opinion piece is well written.

{{{Excerpt 1 - Nobody argued that point. You attempted to create that perception adroitly. The question after is a good one. I’d like to see the expert answer to it.}}}

{{{Excerpt 2 - The first sentence could just have easily read “People disagree, that makes others mad.” I think the language is pompous and argumentative. As far as all that strident condemnation and gay embracing rigamarole, I don’t buy it. I think that is an emotional statement (which is ok) not one based on facts.

” The same people expressing the most strident condemnation of gay priests molesting young boys, also demand public pressure to force the Boy Scouts to embrace gay scout masters “

Gay bashers are gay embracers? What? Is black white? Is night day? Is love hate? That sounds more like RWNJIFG!}}}

Yes, Buy Danish, well said! Actually, well written! You have a facility for this medium.

But in my opinion, you’re pretty much wrong about everything! I assume the feeling is mutual.

But good for you!

Oh, let me put that in technically correct blogspeak…or my own wee jab.

GFY! Good For You!

Y’all have a pleasant evening. We have skeeters and lightning bugs to look forward to tonight!

By @@

July 18, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

What’s my point?

I grew up rushncap. I stopped thinking of myself as the individual and started thinking about society as a whole and how what WE, as adults do, can have adverse affects on the children that we profess to love and care for.

You’re simple-minded rushncap so I’ll put this as simply as I can….

You can take pride in being the very best you can be…an immature, selfish jerk-off who gazes in the mirror and says….”yup, I’m done, was it good for you”?

Dimwit.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Congratulations on losing your individuality, @@. Now I understand why you’re a neocon. Being an individual proved too hard for you. I sympathize. But I’ll stay an individual. You can go on “helping” people. I’ll continue to live in the real world. Deal?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

I would just like to close the day by blaming the gay people for trying to destroy Sen. Vitter’s marraige. We have insisted all along that gay marriage would threaten traditional marraiges and now the evidence is clear. I hope you liberals and gays are happy that you forced this poor Senator into the arms of a w*******.

You owe the Senator and his wife a sincere apology. You should all be ashamed at what you’ve done. There is no telling what GOP official will be drawn into the dark world of prostitution, sex with children, bestiality, necrophilia etc… simply because you libs and gays insist on destroying the country and its values with gay marriage.

RWNJIFG

By The Essence of Doom

July 18, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG is the biggest self depraved phony on this blog. At least everyone else has the courage to be themselves instead of making fun of their own inner feelings.

By The Essence of Doom

July 18, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

DOOM IS BACK! Stay tuned for common sense and decency to enter these here blogs!

By @@

July 18, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

A real world where nobody needs help???

Deal. For now anyway…and you know what? “being an individual” is the easy path, no demands, no challenges.

So it’s the easy path that YOU’RE on.

Helping others requires individual sacrifice. Sometimes that’s hard, but people do it inspite of the difficulties.

Individual sacrifice is obviously something that doesn’t come easily to an inert progressive activist like yourself.

All mouth…no action. A blog potato.

Gasbag.

By rushncap

July 18, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Are you running out of names to call me yet, @@? Too bad. Although if you’re starting to scrape the “blog potato” bottom of the barrel, maybe it’s for the best.

All hail the great martyr @@… or at least what she envisions herself to be. There there, girl, we all think you’re as great as you want us to believe. Want a sugar cube, girl?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

July 18, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this

Self-draved phony? I am a right wing nut job trained by the like of Rush, Hannity, Savage, Drudge, Kristol, Colbert etc., etc… And I am damn proud of it. I am not a phony. I am exactly who I say I am: a complete right wing nut case who loves Bush, Cheney and the Iraq War. I hate liberals, gays, Muslims, immigrants and others who I can’t say I hate because of the “thought police”, but they know who they are without me having to say so. (Hint: 96% of them vote for the other Party.)

As far as courage, I have every bit as much courage as Cheney and Bush did during Vietnam. I think that speaks for itself.

Besides there are worse things than saying stupid things that you may not actually believe. One worse thing might be repeatedly saying stupid things that you are too stupid to realize are stupid, for example. Another may be expressing discomfort in being confronted with the extension of your “logic.”

That being said, I will remain here, you protests notwithstanding, expressing the views of the right in a clear and concise manner so that everyone will know where we true patriotic, American, Right Wing Nut Jobs stand on the issues of the day.

If you don’t like it read Duh’s, Dusty’s, or Buy Danish’s posts but I warn you that they are almost exactly the same as mine, but you’d never accuse them of not meaning it.

RWNJIFG

By @@

July 18, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this

A martyr rushncap?

(((Helping others requires individual sacrifice. Sometimes that’s hard, but ——>people<—— do it inspite of the difficulties.)))

There are a lot of “martyrs” out there. But hey, you’re “one” of a kind rushncap. You’re special, nobody needs you to be anything but…YOU.

Nope, when you’re “one” of a kind, there’s no room for others in THAT box.

Different people?

They can’t even compare to how special you are as an “individual” can they rushncap?

They don’t matter.

They’re just people who have nothing to offer.

People who can’t have an impact.

You know….those people who just “aren’t able” to achieve the “individual” status that is exclusive to you.

Congratulations rushncap. You are very adept at making yourself look like the “man out standing in his field”.

There are a lot of people who aren’t gonna ask you to move over and make room for them in that field.

That “individual” manure you’re standing in is contaminated and might prove contagious. If we all caught what you’ve got, we probably wouldn’t want to pass it forward like you do.