Mike Luckovich

By WTFBBQ

July 13, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Frist. Bwahahahaha

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 13, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

Mike, I must respectfully disagree. W is not the last comic standing. The green room is jam packed with comedians.

Rudy Giuliani, who’s best joke is “What do you call the remains of 121 fallen firefighters in potholes in Manhattan?”

Fred Thompson, who starts his act with, “What’s the difference between an anti-abortion candidate and a lobbyist for a pro-choice PAC?”

Ever heard of the Genesis Brothers? Brownback, Huckabee and Tancredo? They do this great sketch about a priest, a rabbi and a tyrannosaurus rex who go into a bar.

Who can forget the comic stylings of John “Beetle Bailey” McCain?

Or Mitt Romney and his amazing dog tricks!

And then there are the Democrats! Some of them are pretty damn funny!

Why wait for 2008?

Impeachment

Indictment

Incarceration

By Anonymous

July 13, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

You’ve gotta admire a guy who sticks to his beliefs even in the face of obvious defeat and overwhelming evidence of failure.

I’m not sure WHY, exactly. But for some reason, we’re supposed to admire that. Stubborn blindness is apparently some sort of virtue. Perhaps next fall we should elect a mule to the Oval Office.

By Bosch

July 13, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

John McCain is down to, what, $200,000 in his campaign bank? I wonder if there is a correlation with that and the fact that he is a vehement Bush supporter - Hmmmmmmmm……….?

By w00t

July 13, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, your post is great!

So, has anyone else noticed how they ratcheted up “THE TERRORIST ARE COMMING, THE TERRORIST ARE COMMING!” right before this progress report was released?

They make sure they scream, WOLF, WOLF, so everyone goes running to the hills. Problem is, no one is falling for it anymore.

This administration creates fear to sell their failed policies to congress and the people. It’s really quite sad. Didn’t someone say before that “the only thing we have to fear, is fear itself”? Why can’t bush live like that?

There is a line from the Movie “V for Vendetta” where the Chancellor of an authoritarian England is looking for way to keep people in check. He shouts to his henchmen “I WANT THIS COUNTRY TO KNOW WHY THEY NEED US!!”

I think the line very fitting for the Bush administration. They create the fear, and people flock to him.

By Red Forman

July 13, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

What an imbecile our pResidunce is.

By Bosch

July 13, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

w00t, How right you are. I loved seeing Chertoff (sp?) yesterday telling everyone how he had a gut feeling about a terrorist attack this summer.

The problem is, and I’ve said this before, that the terrorist are already here, I truly believe that because no one is paying attention to our borders (only Iraq borders and we see how that’s going), and I think he’s right. I hope not, but I think it is just a matter of time, but yes, the crying wolf game is getting old.

I just wonder who our “friends” will blame if it does happen. I wonder how they will tie this to Clinton?

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

WOW! Lots of great posts already. Especially yours Mrs. Godzilla!

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (General Motors) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race. On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing. Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion. They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team’s management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the ‘Rowing Team Quality First Program,’ with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year’s racing team was out-sourced to India

Sadly, the End. Sad, but oh so true! Here’s something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US, claiming they can’t make money paying American wages. Toyota has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US The last quarter’s results:

Toyota makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses. Ford folks are still scratching their heads.

IF THIS WASN’T SO SAD IT MIGHT BE FUNNY

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Unfortunately with our current leadership’s foreign policy (or lack thereof) we are prime targets for another terrorist attack. I would venture to say it’s inevitable. When it happens the Repugnants will crow “SEE! WE TOLD YOU SO!” All the while not admitting that it was their fault in the first place.

If a Dem is elected to the White House before it happens that will only add fuel to the fire that Repugnants could have saved us from it. Nothing is further from the truth.

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 13, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

American optimism is a joke to the liberals?

Huh.

{{{{{{Baghdad —- Iraq’s shaky government will be hard-pressed to meet the 18 benchmarks even by the end of the year, and many Iraqis believe focusing on U.S.-mandated yardsticks has, in effect, set them up for failure.}}}}}}

Dear Democrats: The liberals in Congress haven’t met any of their “benchmarks” either.

Think about that for a second.

{{First, the Dems’ hysteria feeds the resolve of our enemies. Iran and Syria (and their proxies, who we are fighting in Iraq) are many things but dumb isn’t one of them. They follow the Washington political meltdown and know that if they can continue to harass us — even though they cannot defeat us militarily — they can win simply by holding on.}}

So basically, the Democrats, in their blind, no holds barred struggle to regain total control of the government, or so they think, are fighting against not only the Republicans but also America.

Nice.

{{ Did you know that Planned Parenthood operates off millions of dollars in tax money? In 2004 and 2005, Planned Parenthood received $551 million in governmental funding. Title X of the Public Health Service Act covers overhead expenses that the country’s leading abortion provider would otherwise have to pay for itself, which means that devout Christian taxpayers in the U.S. help to fund the abortions they oppose.}}

Isn’t that great to know, you get to pay for the murder of unborn children?

{{Contrast this to the way Congressman Barney Frank reacted when it was revealed that he was living with a male prostitute, who was running a gay escort service out of Frank’s home. When caught, Frank ignored the whole w*******-mongering detail and focused instead on declaring his true sexual identity. Once safely homosexual, Frank was immune to all other criticism. In fact, I’m a huge fan of hypocrisy, since the alternative is apparently a world without standards for anyone, lest someone risk being called a hypocrite. Here is the difference between the average hypocrite and the average liberal: the hypocrite has the common courtesy to be embarrassed about what he does. The liberal thinks what he does should be taught to your children at school.}}

By Anonymous

July 13, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Funny how, in the Democrats’ so-called “struggle against America,” Americans are on THEIR side and not Bush’s.

Oh wait—that’s not funny at all.

By w00t

July 13, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

Hey, duh, do you know that you pay taxes that goes to Defense that kills our brave young men and women in the field in an unjust war?

I’d like to opt out too.

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Andy - please resume the use of

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It helps me identify your BS a little quicker so I can ignore it and move on.

By Goldie

July 13, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

Funny ‘toon, Lucko, in a very sad kinda way… I do like how you’ve drawn Bush’s arms way out from his body, just like he frequently holds them out so awkwardly. Kinda like a man who is rigid of heart and mind.

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

Who can forget the incredible scandal that erupted back in May of 2002? Around about the middle of that month, details began to emerge about the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that specifically warned Bush about Osama bin Laden’s determination to strike the United States. Wait. Actually, everyone forgot, because two days later,

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

FROM IAVA

The following fatalities were identified by the DoD on 7/11:

Master Sgt. Randy J. Gillespie

Official DoD Count of Troops Killed in Iraq: 3604 Troops Killed in Afghanistan: 406 Wounded in Action: 28075

By Dusty

July 13, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Well, I see the Sackcloth and Ashes crowd are all here this morning knocking the country, bashing Bush, wasting discussion time on “Impeach Someone” and other foolishness.

Ah, the Luckovich Love-anywhere-but-America Gang are hard at work. Keep at it, gang. You make liberals look so anti-American that the terrorists sit back and let you do the groundwork for them.

Can’t say there’s much appreciation for your subversion but you seem to enjoy it. America even gives fools the chance to say what they want. You liberals show us that every day.

By Goldie

July 13, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Why does Bush keep insisting that Iraq is still the battleground for our troops, when they long ago accomplished their mission there? How many years ago did we realize there were no WMDs or nukes being reconstituted and therefore that mission was done? 4 years ago?

How many years ago did we remove the evil Iraqi dictator and subsequently witness his execution? That mission is done.

How many years ago did we ensure that the Iraqi citizens were able to vote and democratically elect their own parliament?

How can Bush keep insisting that it should be the American commanders on the ground who determine when our combat troops will be drawn down, when the Iraqi parliament has stated many times that all foreign occupiers need to leave their country? Does the Iraqi parliament really have no say in how their country should be governed now?

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

This ad, from Americans Against Escalation in Iraq, starts running in Kentucky tomorrow — that would be the home state of the leader of the GOP filibuster strategy, Mitch McConnell.

By @@

July 13, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

O.K. ml, so you find any progress that is being reported by our military amusing?

Eight of the nineteen benchmarks established have been met by the Iraqi government, and all because of the efforts of our military. Yup, that’s a real knee-slapper alright.

I thought “open-mike” night at the presidential forum hosted by the NAACP was hilarious. How about you?

By The Watcher

July 13, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Does it occur to anyone else that if the dead enders here would spend as much time working on what THEY think as they do telling us they think WE think….the world would be e better place?

By Bosch

July 13, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

I have a question for anyone who knows - how are things going in Afghanistan? I know about the al-Qaeda cell/training camp/Sandals Resort on the border with Pakistan, but I never hear about anything in the news about Afghanistan like you do Iraq.

So, anyway, just wondering if anyone can help me out.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

hey Dusty — suck it, baby, suck it

bwahahahahahahaha

By @@

July 13, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

OMG, this is funny…

(((Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison — the first Muslim member of Congress — says Bush administration actions following 9/11 remind him of the way Adolf Hitler’s government expanded its power after the burning of Berlin’s Reichstag parliament building in 1933.)))

(((Ellison told a gathering of atheists recently — “It’s almost like the Reichstag fire, kind of reminds me of that. After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the communists for it and it put the leader of that country [Hitler] in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted. The fact is that I’m not saying [September 11] was a [U.S.] plan, or anything like that because, you know, that’s how they put you in the nut-ball box — dismiss you.”)))

Damn, I think Keith Ellison just put you liberals in the “nut-ball box”.

You’re dismissed.

NOW THAT’S FUNNY!!!!!!!

By Bosch

July 13, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

I have another question -

What does Bush define as “success” in Iraq?

Again, just wondering, if anyone knows the answer.

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

FACT CHECK: Bush’s Claims Of ‘Satisfactory Performance’ In Iraq Debunked

By Goldie

July 13, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

{{Ah, the Luckovich Love-anywhere-but-America Gang are hard at work. Keep at it, gang. You make liberals look so anti-American that the terrorists sit back and let you do the groundwork for them.}}

If there’s anyone who hates Americans, it’s you Dust-Brain! You are still equating 70% of America as being “terrorist appeasers” simply for wanting to end our occupation of Iraq — you ignorant America-hater!

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Christian right disrupts first Hindu prayer in the Senate

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

NUT BALL BOX FILLING UP QUICKLY

Savage: “[O]f all of the dictators in the past,” Al Gore is “closest” to Mussolini

By getalife

July 13, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

More wasted lives and billions and they can’t even get the oil.

The Iraqi government does not even bother to show up. They are taking August off, so there will be nothing done in September for the report w is waiting on.

There is hope for Iraq from Brown. He said it is time to stop destroying and start rebuilding.

With the trillion wasted in Iraq, we could have universal health care and helped social security.

By w00t

July 13, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Dusty, “liberals” care more about our troops and this country than you EVER could.

We actually want to take care of OUR country and OUR people. We do not want to spend TRILLIONS of our dollars on an unjust war. We want to see that money spent here on better Schools, education, healthcare, roads, and infrastructure. You know, things that make for the betterment of our people.

But, like they say, republicans only care about babies until AFTER they are born.

By @@

July 13, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

TruthOut…Arafat’s sexual indiscretions resulting in his death have brought about the present-day chaos in Palestine.

Arafat Died of AIDS, Fellow Terrorist Says

Damn, that makes the liberals and their sexual revolution, co-conspirators in the destruction of Palestine.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

w00t 8:19

Why do you give so much credit to Bush for this entire “fear” thing? It’s totally in the American political tradition.

Look at a big factor in JFK’s election - he charged the Republicans with letting a “missile gap” occur with the USSR even when his officials knew it was a bogus charge (I don’t recall Nixon touring the country touring the country afterwards saying “Kennedy lied, he lied, he lied to the American people”). Johnson with his entire fear campaign against Goldwater (he can’t wait to get the nuclear codes and push the button). Then the entire “domino theory to get us into Vietnam (yes, we were there long before - I mean the huge escalation). Nixon painting McGovern as a wimp who would abdicate America’s position to the Russians. And on it goes.

As was pointed out last night - the paraphrase of Gorbachev’s remark to America “We are going to do something terrible to you . We are going to deprive you of an enemy.”

Most of the candidates on both sides use some variation of the “fear” theme. It’s not solely a Bush Administration tactic.

By The Watcher

July 13, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Since Ronald Reagan ignored AIDS for so long maybe killing Arafat should be added to his legacy?

By Midori

July 13, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

@@,

What’s this guy “conspiring” to do?

What’s he trying to destroy?

other than what shred of credibility the GOP has left?

By Anonymous

July 13, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

@@: Was something about Ellison’s remark inaccurate? Bush DID take advantage of 9/11 to seize additional power, divert blame to an unrelated target, and launch insane military adventures.

Sounds like Ellison’s pretty well grounded in reality, unlike the Bushies (and the America-hating Dusty, of course).

By Paul

July 13, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Bosch 8:25

Then you may want to read year-old position paper I cite regularly: The Democrat’s “Real Security: The Democratic Plan to Protect America and Restore Our Leadership in the World.”

Check out the sections on dealing with jihadists and Homeland Security. Then ask: okay Congress, what’s your excuse for zero action? You said you’d do it if you got elected, America elected you, and you haven’t even held one darned hearing, let alone done anything else.

The Bush Administration is not stonewalling Congress on anything they put forward in their report. Seems like it’s another case of “say anything to get elected and hope America has a short memory.”

By The Watcher

July 13, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Liberals may have started the sexual revolution, but lately Republicans have been behaving in a sexually REVOLTING manner.

Did you see that Almond character In true Republican fashion Almond was the vice chairman of the House committee on children, youth and families.?

By Goldie

July 13, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

If Iraqis were pleading with us to stay and quell the violence, maybe we would have a moral responsibility to stay. But when Iraqis are begging us to leave, and saying that we are making things worse, then it’s remarkably presumptuous to overrule their wishes and stay indefinitely because, as President Bush termed it in his speech on Tuesday, “it is necessary work.”

So is Bush some kinda dictator these days? Dictator of Iraq?

By @@

July 13, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Midori:

I’m have no plans of getting into a discussion regarding sex with you.

You enjoy the opportunity to discuss “that topic” waaaayyyyy too much. It kinda makes me wonder about you…

Anonymous:

You need to talk to your liberal friends who keep linking this “U.S. Conspiracy” back to oil.

According to them, everything was in the planning stages even before the invasion of Iraq.

But wait…there were a whole bunch of Democrats calling for aggressive action against Saddam because, they too, saw him and his pursuit of WMDs as a threat to our national security.

Who was misleading the Democrats then? Bush wasn’t even in office.

By Goldie

July 13, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

{{Then ask: okay Congress, what’s your excuse for zero action?}}

It’s called Republican Obstructionism, Paul… we need more Dems in Congress before we’ll see most anything accomplished. Your guys in Congress are still kissing Bush’s @ss and won’t vote as the American people wish!

Can’t Wait For ‘08!

By Paul

July 13, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

@@ 9:24

I understand when Congressman Ellison was asked for facts to back up his assertion that like Hitler, Bush was trying to get in a position to do whatever he wants, he cited the (drumroll, this is something 1930s Germans can identify with:) the commutation of Scooter Libby’s jail sentence!

And all this time I thought it was the Constitution, not Bush’s nefarious, fascist actions that granted the Chief Executive the power to pardon. Nuts. Now I gotta take History 101 over again.

Oh, and your open-mike comment at 9:18 – after all the hand-wringing about the Bush Administration attempting (or accomplishing) a fascist state, why isn’t there any hand-wringing over the Democratic Power Players (Hillary and Edwards) attempt to muzzle free speech, dissent, and challenging viewpoints (eliminating other candidates from future joint appearances - that Gravel guy can be sooo embarrassing when he points out their shortcomings) so they can have a better chance at gaining more power?

By Midori

July 13, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Watcher,

maybe that’s why they hate Clinton so much — he didn’t have to beg or harass for b.j.’s.

unlike them.

a tad jealous, you think?

By Midori

July 13, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

@@,

suck it baby, suck it

bwahahahahahahahaha

By Buy D@@sty

July 13, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

It’s me, really!

By Paul

July 13, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Goldie 10:13

Oh, please - have you ever read he Democrat’s “Real Security: The Democratic Plan to Protect America and Restore Our Leadership in the World?” It’s easy to find - I downloaded a copy and refer to it regularly. It has some really good ideas - many of which should have been done years ago.

“Republican obstructionism” is a mantra that just doesn’t fit. Read the document - then ask “okay, what has the Democratic Congress done to initiate any action at all (even their favorite - hold a hearing) on any of these issues?

Opposing party stonewalling, obstructing, fillibustering is part of the American legislative process. Pointing out that it happens to justify one’s own inaction (not “low” action, that’s “no” action) is a poor excuse.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Here is what Mike is talking about:

“In rebuffing calls to bring troops home from Iraq, President Bush on Thursday employed a stark and ominous defense. “The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq,” he said, “were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th, and that’s why what happens in Iraq matters to the security here at home.””

Now that is funny.

Geez.

By @@

July 13, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Paul:

Not only are Hillary and Edwards attempting to muzzle free speech, they’re attempting to rob the American voters of the opportunity to hear THEIR chosen candidates.

Gravel is a nut/hoot. In the last debate, he was given the last few seconds to respond. I noticed that with his response, Hillary and Edwards looked at each other and rolled their eyes.

Chris Dodd reached over, gave Gravel a smile and patted him on the back.

By Buy D@@sty

July 13, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Up or Down votes! No filibustering! No rest for our troops! Let the same 150M rotate again and again! No time frames! No wage increase for our troops! No obstruction! Much blindness!

By Paul

July 13, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

getalife

From a purely political standpoint, beginning an immediate withdrawal and phasing it carefully to last until the election could cause Democrats (Hillary) all kinds of problems. It’d result in a situation, at Republican initiation and action, that would result in pretty much the situation she’s called for. And if managed correctly (that’s a big “IF” given this administration’s record) they could spin it as justified, their idea, support of the troops because of minimizing risk due to Iraqi government incompetence, etc.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

funny, I must have missed all those arrests that occurred during Clinton and/or Edward’s speeches.

the screened, pro Hillary, pro Edwards audiences too.

oh yeah — and the jailing/arrest of all those people wearing anti Clinton and/or Edwards tee shirts.

oh wait!!!

now I remember where I saw/heard about that!!

By @@

July 13, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Midori:

I’ve called you crude.

I’ve called you insensitive.

I’ve never had to call you “stupid” until today.

Four posts from you and they’re all of a “sexual” nature.

You really don’t get “it” do you?

By Paul

July 13, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

@@

Great. Now we’re gonna get treated to Lukovich cartoons of Hillary and Edwards sporting funny little moustaches. And they’ll both have to change haircuts to get a bit more shaved around the sides.

I asked once why folks like Gravel are given a platform. Now I’m glad they are. They stir things up. Ron Paul, too.

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 13, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

{{“The same people that attacked us on September the 11th is the crowd that is now bombing people, killing innocent men, women and children, many of whom are Muslims, trying to stop the advance of a system based upon liberty.” That is not true. The group doing the most spectacular bombings in Iraq was named al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia by its founder, Abu Mousab al-Zarqawi, now deceased, in an attempt to aggrandize his reputation in jihadi-world. It is a sliver group, representing no more than 5% of the Sunni insurgency. It shares a philosophy, but not much else, with the real al-Qaeda, which operates out of Pakistan. In fact, al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia has been criticized in the past by the operational director of the real al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri, for its wanton carnage directed at Muslims. Blah, blah, blah.- Joe Klein}}

How much more childish can you get than that?

What is al-Qaeda? Al-Qaeda is an !!!!!international!!!!! terrorist network led by Osama bin Laden. It seeks to rid Muslim countries of what it sees as the profane influence of the West and replace their governments with fundamentalist Islamic regimes, duh.

By Buy D@@sty

July 13, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

I told you it was me!

By Paul

July 13, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Midori

So maybe one of the first actions of a Hillary Presidency will be to issue orders to Justice and the Secret Service to do away with free speech zones?

I wouldn’t hold my breath for Hillary. She has some real Pelosi/Nixonian tendencies, IMHO. Obama - I could see him doing that on day one.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

@@,

suck it baby, suck it

how crude, stupid and insensitive do you think Mr. Almond is?

I’m just pointing out the facts.

Maybe you need to “redirect” your “outrage”.

Or are you upset that you can’t think of the obligatory “Clinton did it too” comeback?

again, suck it twit. suck it.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

“[T]here’s a senator from Louisiana, David Vitter, admitted he’s been dating prostitutes. And he was very generous with one girl—-he paid her with a new highway project in her home state. … One thing I’ll say for this guy from Louisiana, this David Vitter, at least he went to a professional and left the congressional pages alone.” —-David Letterman

Then there is this:

“Suck it baby. suck it”

And this :

“GOP Florida State Rep. Allen Charged in Gay Oral Sex Solicitation”

Family values.

Geez.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Paul,

hopefully the first action of a hillary or edwards presidency is to fumigate the white house, and rid it of all stenches bush and cheney.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

watch out, Getalife — @@ is gonna call you crude, stupid and insensitive.

how dare you comment on and report what those GOP scumbag perverts have been doing?

HOW DARE YOU????

By Cindy

July 13, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Mike: I just laughed out loud at this toon. Keep up the good work!

By @@

July 13, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Midori and Getalife:

Almond resigned.

The Republicans “forced” him to resign.

The female should press charges of sexual misconduct…sexual harrassment…sexual…?????

There you go Midori. I said the word “sexual” three times.

Ooooooooooooos for Midori.

I’m stepping up to the curb now. I’ll leave you where you choose to reside.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Midori,

Its a gop freak show.

They have no morals or principals to run on.

Family values is a joke.

Spending is out of control.

al Qaeda is stronger.

They got nothing but people like @@ that support them no matter what because of her hatred for liberals.

They do have hate, stealing freedoms, tax dollars and torture.

Geez.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

hey @@,

I understand that David Vitter liked to wear soiled diapers when he visited hookers.

I’ll post a link if you want.

In the meantime, am “I” stupid, crude and insensitive, or is Vitter?

I report; you decide.

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Could Republicans be any more vile?

By getalife

July 13, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

My wingnut cajun friends are not happy with our Senator Vitter.

Bwa.

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

10 REASONS REPUBLICANS KNOW NO JOY

By Dusty

July 13, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Midori & getalife aka Mr. & Mrs. Clean,

I am sure you have lots of scumbag dirt you delight in spreading.

DON’T BOTHER. We know it exists.(We also know that HTML monitors on this blog are blind.)

@@ is correct. “Mr. & Mrs. Clean” are crude, stupid and insensitive.

By Stephen Colbert

July 13, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Sixty eight percent of Republicans don’t believe in evolution. On the other hand, only five percent of monkeys believe in Republicans.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

If you can’t take the truth, cut and run.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

have you guys seen the latest threat level chart?

STFU Crusty, you ignorant cow.

Moo!!

By Dubya

July 13, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

The neocons got beat up here yesterday so beautifully and badly that they’re out en masse today.

It gets better every day. How many different sides of his mouth do you think the FrankenBush Monster can speak out of?? God bless Murcuh!

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Everybody’s favorite techno-babble spouter, Sen. Ted “a series of tubes” Stevens, confounded just about everyone at the Senate Commerce Committee Hearing On Number Portability.

“Let me be just the Devil’s Advocate here. Could I just decide I want to keep my wireline and I want to add wireless to it? Can I have two providers on the same number?”

Awkward pause: “Um, I don’t think that technology exists right now.”

Stevens: “If I had an IP phone, by definition, I’d have to leave the wire… wireline phone to use it?”

Answer: “I think that is the case with the technology today.”

Stevens: “Is it coming? Why shouldn’t I be able to say, just by a little switch on my phone at home that’s wired, I’m going off on the wireless now, I want to use this as I ride my motorcycle.”

I suppose he’s never heard of Call Forwarding. I can’t believe people actually vote for these morons.

Oh well, takes one to vote for one I guess.

By Jay Leno

July 13, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

“Republican Senator and family values conservative — that’s what he calls himself — Senator David Vitter of Louisiana admitted he was a client of the so called DC Madam in Washington. See, this is so wrong. At least use a hooker from your own state. I mean they’re gonna pump money into the economy, make it your own

Well now more problems with this Vitter guy. You gotta go on his website, he’s like Mr. Religious, Mr. Family Values. Well now a second madam has come forward and told the Associated Press that he was also a customer at her brothel. This guy was cheating on his hooker with another hooker.”

And this madam says that Vitter was not only having sex with the prostitutes — this is unbelievable — he would also pay them to dress him up in a diaper. See, that’s what you call a pampered politician. And she also said today in an interview that he sometimes paid $300 an hour just to have the hookers talk to him because his wife didn’t listen to him. Well, I bet she’s all ears now.”

By Paul

July 13, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty

Did you see the STRATFOR report on al Zawahiri’s July 4 video? Seems al Qaeda in Iraq has been severely hurt and affiliated groups are distancing themselves as they don’t want to be next. Their caliphate dreams are crumbling, the Middle East regimes are taking harsh action, and in what is to me the most hopeful (long-term) item is the success being realized in the anti-jihadist war of ideology. I still think America, the West and Islamic countries could cooperate far, far more in this regard (Lord Help Us: are you reading this?). The results then could well be exponential.

By The Watcher

July 13, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

I heard the new threat level color for Chertoff gut was brown.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Hey Crusty:

Now I understand the you and your fellow knuckle draggers anger over Bill Clinton ….

Your perfect “leaders” all have to pay for it or get their mistresses or whatever jobs and what not for sex.

Think of it ….

Gannon paid escort for the White House

Vitter diapers and hookers

Bob Allen “I’ll pay you $20.00 to give you a blow job.”

Mark Foley and his “extra attention” to the pages

Newt Gingrich ….. he just hires ‘em.

Rush …. Dominican Republic and “paid for sex” w/ ????

Bill O’Rielly ….. Phone sex with a scared subordinate who he told her that he was interested in her career

Rev. Ted Haggard …. gay hookers and crystal meth

And Bill Clinton was getting “it” for free … think of the anger and jealousy.

Suck on it, Crusty!!!

By getalife

July 13, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Have you read the latest intell report on al Qaeda being stronger than before 9/11?

Are they discussing that at Stratfor?

By Paul

July 13, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Midori!

You’re not taking a defining characteristic of Republicans and Democrats and applying it to extracurricular sexual escapades, are you?

Republicans follow principles by paying from their own pocket for what they wabt. Democrats follow their principles and have a sense of entitlement and expect others to pay for what they get?!!?

Well, I’ll give’em both credit - their Party Principles follow them into the bedroom. Nader? Unity08 dot org - there’s hope!

Seriously, though, Clinton said he underwent sexual addiction therapy. I do not know, nor do I care to know, if he is continuing with it (not the Britney rehab route or that FL Congressman example) as it can take 2-4 years to restructure one’s self to function appropriately. But I do give Clinton a lot of credit for doing it quietly, not in conjunction with some “apology” for show, and for hopefully getting that part of his life (and Hillary’s) on track.

By Anonymous

July 13, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Anti-CON: I think the people of Alaska keep re-electing Stevens just so he’ll stay in D.C. and leave them alone.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

getalife

I believe that assessment referred to the last couple of years, not pre-911. They’ve lost the open support of operating within the government of a nation (Afghanistan), their financial operations have been severely degraded, surveillance is more effective than pre- 9-11. But their ideology continues to spread. So it’s a mixed bag.

Short answer: yes, STRATFOR does discuss such things. Personally, I think some “analysts” lift ideas from STRATFOR. Those folks have a lot of respect within the intel community.

Just heard Iran’s giving unlimited access to IAEA for their nuke facilities. Good news -

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Anonymous - you make a good point. My sister lives in Texas and she maintains that many Texans voted for Chimpy to get rid of him.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Paul,

They are stronger because w cut and ran to invade Iraq.

Nice spin.

Geez.

There is more good news.

North Korea wants direct talks.

Brown is no poodle and wants to stop destroying the ME and start rebuilding.

By AmVet

July 13, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Wow! There certainly has been a LOT of blogging here lately about the S word.

Let’s face it, people like to screw! (Funny but John Lennon’s voice just popped into my head singing, Why don’t we do it in the road?”)

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that S-E-X — for lack of a better word — is good.

Sex is right.

Sex works.

Sex clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

(Thanks Gordon Gekko!)

But ever since the 1960’s there has been this great divide in our country. Those who will admit they like to and those who won’t.

So is it any real wonder that so many of these Republican quasi-christian puritans are now getting caught with their fingers in the cookie jar? To me, it is not even remotely surprising.

When I was stationed in Europe in the mid-70s I found it most refreshing that unlike in this country, nudity and sex were not considered such taboo and nasty things.

Isn’t it ironic that our enlightened friends across the pond are in some ways the exact opposite of us - they promote sexual openness in the media and oppose showing gratuitous violence and murder.

So instead of trying to be some hung-up puritanical prude go home right now and bang your old ladies or girlfriends/boyfriends, hubbies or whatever. (Just, please, no teenagers!)

By Paul

July 13, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con

I also have relatives in Texas. Rather than voting for him to get rid of him, most seem bewildered and disappointed - they say as governor he dealt very effectively with the Democratic legislature, he kept spending within comfortable limits, worked some pretty difficult issues (education was a hot button) - then he goes to Washington, all that goes out the window and people ask “What happened?”

Seems to be an attitude shared outside Texas, as well.

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

AmVet - I believe it was Paul who sang those lyrics. John is still my favorite Beatle though.

McCartney’s new CD is the best he’s done in a few years by the way. Good stuff.

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Paul - you may be correct as it pertains to most of Texas but in the Austin area where they tend to be a bit more sane they just wanted him gone.

By TC

July 13, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Bosch if another attack occurs, you can bet that the perps will be here on LEGAL visas. You border bigots are getting tiresome right along with all the other crap that this administration has laid on this country. I can’t wait for 08.

By Tonito

July 13, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Yeah, the cons really did get worked over by the pros here yesterday. Refreshing. And there isn’t an honest word you can say in your defense.I’d only add one point. In addition to the inbred hate and bitterness you Repugs seethe with, one of the commonest reasons you lowlifes become what you are is that twisted need that somehow, in some way you are “identifying” with the extremely wealthy of our population. In recent years this has taken on even a comical hue. We have you hillbillies and others of the most basic fabric hungrily, obsessively seeking that identification. (see them/you on this blog).

Always been that way but just increases. As you vote and support those who are against your own financial and self-interests, the very wealthy utilize and in every way use you pathetic wannabes for election purposes, do nothing for you, ignore you, privately mock you, cast you away, while your ignorance prevents you from realizing any of it. Speak of “duh.” Truly you “little people” never learn to look out for your own interests instead of pretending that you are what you absolutely are not: inferiors. Can you dig it??

By mm

July 13, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Bill and Hillary are at the Yankee season opener sitting in the first row, with the Secret Service agents directly behind them. One of the Secret Service guys leans forward and whispers something to Bill. At first, Clinton stares at the guy, looks at Hillary, looks back at the agent, and shakes his head “no”. The agent then says, “Mr. President, it was at the unanimous request of the entire team, from the owner on down to the bat boy.”Bill hesitates . . but begins to change his mind when the agent tells him the fans would love it!

Bill shrugs his shoulders and says, “Okay, if that’s what the people want.” With that, Bill gets up, grabs Hillary by her collar and the seat of her pants, lifts her up, and tosses her right over the wall onto the field. She gets up kicking, swearing, screaming, “I’ll kill you! You @#$!&&&&&&&&%$%*!!!” The crowd goes absolutely wild. Fans are jumping up & down cheering, hooting & hollering, and high-fiving. Bill is bowing, smiling and waving to the crowd. He leans over to the agent and says, “How about that! I would have never believed how much everyone would enjoy that! Noticing his agent has gone totally pale, he asks what is wrong. The agent replies, “Mr. President, Sir, I said they wanted you to throw out the first “Pitch”

By Paul

July 13, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Anti-CON

Good point about Austin (don’t know about the “sane” though). That town seems to be Texas’ version of San Francisco - and party central. I went to a college championship game there - home of Univ of Texas - what a party town. Plus the local reps are Dem - not just old-style conservative - but liberal. Must’ve been fun there when he was governor.

TC

Border bigot? So the Democratic call to strengthen our (southern) border to keep illegals out is what, exactly?

By jnh

July 13, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

By @@ July 13, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this Almond resigned. The Republicans “forced” him to resign.

Did I miss something? I read that Republican leaders asked him to resign “If the allegations were true.”

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Tonito - you are correct. Remember when Chimpy uttered these words?

“This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elites; I call you my base.”

He was telling the truth for once in his miserable life.

By Dictionary

July 13, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

jnh

no, you have not missed anything

it’s a new language REPUBLISPEAK

amnesty = big fines and waits

cleared = recommended charges dropped

forced = asked

success in iraq = miserable failure

met benchmarks = 1. some progress or 2. outright lie

support the troops = screw the troops support the prez

compassionate conservative = greedy ba$tard

our intel is good = only on those issues that support Prez

competent = brownie and 155 recent Regent grads

freedom = not if you were an anti bush t shirt

family values = foley, vitter, gingrich,almond and friends

booming economy = screw the poor

clean air = little pollution control

etc

etc

By Duh stands for Democrats

July 13, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Tonito July 13, 2007 12:33 PM As you vote and support those who are against your own financial and self-interests, the very wealthy utilize and in every way use you pathetic wannabes for election purposes, do nothing for you, ignore you, privately mock you, cast you away, while your ignorance prevents you from realizing any of it.}}}}

Klinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Kennedy, Reid, Rockefeller, Corzine, Feinstein, all multi millionaires, all Democrats.

All for raising YOUR taxes, all for raising the price of YOUR energy for the junk science of “global warming,” all for telling YOU how to live your life while they live their’s like gluttons and make themselves even richer riding on YOUR back.

Republicans have cut taxes, have increased business earnings, have increased the value of real estate, have increased wages, have increased the GDP, increased the stock market, have the economy booming DESPITE having to spend 12 billion a month defending our Freedom.

Duh.

{{Yeah, the cons really did get worked over by the pros here yesterday.}}

Gosh, what an achievement that is, what with this being a thought controlled, kkkensored blog where only approved speech is allowed.

Pat yourself on the back, champion.

By Dumbarse

July 13, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Bitter much, Andy?

By Duh Is For Duh

July 13, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Poor Andy - sinking ever so deep into the pit of despair. His party is imploding and will lose big in ‘08 and there isn’t a thing he can do about it.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

July 13, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

-=-

Yeah where are those censors —

Duh’l Andy —-

Have you actually been censored? - Has anyone actually been censored here? Banned? etc. -

More lies from the neo-goons as usual —

Duh is for Duhbya’

-=-

By @@

July 13, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 11:41,

You’re not buying into the D@@sty/Danish conspiracy are you? I’m the one who has a subscription to Stratfor, I liked this analysis. I may have to deliver it in two posts.

(((Despite several attacks against Western and Pakistani government targets since Islamabad joined the U.S. war against jihadism, the government of Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf refrained from engaging in major action against the Islamist militancy. The Red Mosque crisis, however, forced the Pakistanis to change their attitude. Not only did the government decided to engage in an unprecedented assault against a mosque, but in a July 12 address to the nation Musharraf also announced plans to go after militant groups all over the NWFP and the adjacent tribal badlands.)))

(((Although al Qaeda would love to exploit the anti-government sentiments that have arisen among Pakistanis in the wake of the storming of the Red Mosque, the group probably is bracing for what Stratfor has identified as the beginning of a long-term struggle between the Pakistani state and the jihadist Frankenstein it created over an extended period.)))

So now Al-Zawahiri is telling Pakistan’s jihadists to focus on Afghanistan where Karzai is beginning to feel the heat from local governors who are saying he isn’t being aggressive enough against the extremists.

It’s rather funny. Musharraf points the finger at Karzai. Karzai points the finger at Musharraf, and the people from both countries are pointing the finger at their respective leaders for failing to reign in the terrorists.

Elections in both countries are on the horizon.

What’s a ME politician to do?

Also, I read a very interesting article early this morning regarding a riff between Iran and Russia on the Bushehr (sp?) nuclear plant. Seems Russia is withholding again. Iran accuses them of being in cahoots with the U.S. What’s the carrot? The U.S. missile defense system.

And then, of course, there’s the recent revelation from German prosecutors that some 50 companies are suspected of smuggling technology to Iran’s Bushehr nuclear power plant via Russia.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

check out this video. yes, it really is the houston chronicle.

By Duh Is For Duh

July 13, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Actually the conspiracy is Bandy D@@steRWs

By What color is a "gut feeling?"

July 13, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Lawmaker asks Homeland Security chief to explain attack warningBy Chris Strohm CongressDaily July 11, 2007 House Homeland Security Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., rapped Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff Wednesday for saying he has a “gut feeling” that the nation faces an increased risk of terrorist attack this summer. Chertoff made his comments to the Chicago Tribune’s editorial board Tuesday, even while saying no evidence points toward an imminent threat. “Words have power, Mr. Secretary,” Thompson wrote in a letter to Chertoff Wednesday. “You must choose them wisely — especially when they relate to the lives and security of the American public.” Thompson said “tens of billions of taxpayer dollars” have been spent on Homeland Security infrastructure, resources and communications systems to identify risks and convey them to state and local officials. “What color code in the Homeland Security Advisory System is associated with a ‘gut feeling?’” the letter asked. “What sectors should be on alert as a result of your ‘gut feeling?’ What cities should be asking their law enforcement to work double shifts because of your ‘gut feeling?’ “

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

In the six years since 9/11, food-borne pathogens and toxins have quietly killed ten times the number of Americans who died in the terrorist attacks. How many more Americans must conservatism kill before our leaders embrace a more responsible ideology?

By Dusty

July 13, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Paul@11:41,

I don’t read STRATFOR (that’s one of @@’s favorites). But what you tell me about their report on the MidEast sounds very good. If only we could get a strong anti-jihadist War going on there. That would give terrorist support a real knockout. Sounds good.

As to Texas, Kay Bailey Hutchinson was on with Dick Durban last night (Lehrer News). She is one smart Texan and giving great ideas and support on Iraq. Her three states idea, which is not really new, sounded so sensible.

Of course, anyone discussing anything with Durban, is bound to look smart. If I didn’t know he was an American, I’d think he was from elsewhere. Venezuela maybe??

Oh, I had forgotten about Clinton and the Sex Addiction Therapy. Maybe we could all contribute and get Midori to the SAT Clinic in a hurry. Call 911…..

By mm

July 13, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Duh is for Duhlusional.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Only one gop candidate had the guts to show up at this forum

There goes your Fox noise debate argument.

By Anti-CON®

July 13, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Friday Funny

By getalife

July 13, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Looks like Nick Anderson has taken his toon to a new level.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Crusty,

don’t blame me for your party’s depravity.

I’m just the messenger here.

You have problems with their behavior?

Perhaps you should communicate your fake outrage to them.

Or is it ok, as long as your hypocrisy isn’t slammed in your stupid, bumper sticker spouting face?

By Midori

July 13, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the biggest incompetent evil idiot of all

besides Dusty, that is……

By getalife

July 13, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

O’Reilly Scolds Tony Snow: “You Can’t Win” In Iraq

Duh.

Lugar/Warner amendment calls for a withdrawel plan by October.

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

THIS IS A SURPRISE

PEGGY NOONAN American Grit We can’t fire the president right now, so we’re waiting it out.

By Shining

July 13, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

You have to admire the Republican senators in 1972. They knew when a member of their party had gone too far, and stopped blindly supporting him. Nixon was successfully impeached, and if he hadn’t resigned and been pardoned, he would have done time…and he was an infinitely better President than the thing we now have in office.

It is sadsadsadsad that the party that calls itself the party of family values, america, and honor is instead the party of lies, lies, more lies and defense of the thing at any cost.

By mm

July 13, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Who the hell are we to be splitting up countries. That’s what got us into this mess (giving land to Israel).

It’s time to butt out of the ME

By Paul

July 13, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

@@ 1:25

So sorry about that. Dusty may enjoy the analyses,though.

That was a most informative post at 1:25. I do enjoy the interrelationships STRATFOR points out. Given their track record with Iran, it wasn’t surprising about German companies bypassing sanctions to make money off the Iranians. Now if US intel/other agencies would only contact people involved in the German/Russian building of the plants and attempt to bribe or otherwise persuade them to let us in on plant design, layout, location.

Dusty

You can sign up for free email reports. Not as indepth, but they’re free and well suited to people who don’t need more indepth reports - or who flat don’t just have the time.

Egypt, Jordan, others have been aggressively engaged with the fundamentalists for some time, but it seems it’s accelerating. I agree - a coordinated or concurrent offensive - giving the jihadists few places for refuge, is something to be hoped for. Even when one raises a spoiled child or a monster - when they grow up one needs to cut them off. When the regimes feel threatened enough, they will strike - and the sooner the better.

And then the human rights groups will protest. Just like they did when al Qaeda killed and cooked children?

getalife

Second time in a month you’ve cited Fox/O’Reilly to support your position?!!? What’s happening with you?!!?

BTW - he’s challenged Snow often, told him (nicely) some answers were flaky and the arguments weak. I caught part of NPR this morning - commentators made the point that none of the Democrats (candidates - most in Congress) were speaking of a full withdraw. I thought Obama and Edwards were, Hillary not.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Escort service placed calls to Vitter during House votes

Is it ok if I report this, Crusty?

By Dusty

July 13, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

mm,2:29

Have you ever heard of 48+ states getting along as one country? Think hard now. You think a try at 3+ in Iraq is impossible? Maybe.

Giving land to Israel? Huh?? Oh, you mean like Israel giving Gaza to the Palestinians and they immediately started killing each other?? Or what????

By @@

July 13, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Well here’s something else I find funny. Let’s hear from the men and women on the street.

Nobody is obstructing them from voicing their opinions.

(((“They don’t approve of anything he does,” Theresa Holsten, 55, a Republican and unemployed resident of Lawton, Okla., said of Congress. “He can’t do anything right, according to what some people say. It irritates the living daylights out of me.”)))

(((“The Republicans are just stonewalling everything, and the Democrats are just not stepping up and making them do what they need to do, especially about Iraq,” said Lambirth, a Democrat. “They need to make our troops get out of Iraq.”)))

(((Steve Wofford, 46, of Scottsdale, Ariz., a moderate Republican who runs a software consulting company, said having a Congress and presidency controlled by opposite parties generally is good, but apparently not in this case.)))

(((“They’re not addressing the issues that are worth addressing,” he said. “They seem to be more interested in fighting over Libby, or something like that.”)))

While the public’s approval of Congress has dropped 11 points since May, the percentage of Democrats who are turning up their noses at Congress—like Lambirth—nearly doubled. Among Republicans, though, not so much.

That moderate voter’s statement says it all for me…

(((“They seem to be more interested in fighting over Libby, or something like that.”)))

“or something like that.”

That’s hilarious.

By Shining

July 13, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

48+ States got along just fine in WWII. We got along just fine in WWI. We even got along just fine in many things after that, like the Moon Landing, the Cold War and 9/11.

But last time I checked, when they do get along, none of them thought strapping bombs to children was a good idea.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

@@

Check out Pelosi’s and Reid’s approval ratings (hint: you won’t find it at MoveOn, Think Progress or the other nonaligned, unaffiliated, moderated, unbiased sites).

mm 2:29

Who are we to be splitting up countries? Why, we’re just like France, Germany, Japan, Russia, England, the United Nations - and if you want to go back farther, the list gets quite long. It’s called the politics of the strong.

Some may call it semantics, but “we” didn’t “give” land to Israel. But that’s a hopeless discussion for some - who don’t recognize how (going back centuries) countries come into existence.

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Hundreds of American troops’ will be lost before Sept. The AP looks at the costs of waiting until September for President Bush’s status report

By mm

July 13, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Your examples of splitting up countries were either accomplished by war or caused a war.

Aggression = wingnut.

Our blind support of Israel is why the Muslims despise us. Right or wrong, that’s the way it is.

But as long as someone else’s son or daughter is fighting your war, you don’t care.

We need to defend our borders and stay out of everyone else’s business.

But wingnuts want to police the world. Bush thinks he rules the world.

By steve-o

July 13, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Today’s cartoon pretty much confirms the obvious:

George W. Bush is the worst president ever!

No ifs, ands, or buts…

Midori,

For some reasons, when conservatives have indiscretions, they go all out—I mean hookers, drugs, exhibitionism, etc. Now only if Dick Cheney got outed as a cross-dresser…

By getalife

July 13, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Looks like Tony Snow is winning the last comic standing.

First ,his excuse for the Iraq government taking August was 130 degree temp. then this:

“My understanding is at this juncture they’re going to take August off, but, you know, they may change their minds,” press secretary Tony Snow said.

Hilarious.

Geez.

By @@

July 13, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Dammit, if Al Qaeda had only kept the “nose” of those four passenger planes out of America’s WTC, the Pentagon and that field in Pennsylvania, everything would be hunky dorey.

Israel…Darfur…what’s the difference?

They’re just a bunch of losers anyway.

Better them than us.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

maybe Reid and Pelosi’s approvals ratings will go up if they participate in a drunken orgy?

Maybe Moveon can sponsor it. And Think Progress can provide the liquor.

By @@

July 13, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Gee, I wonder if Hoover and Bobby Kennedy shared “panties” in their joint endeavor to catch MLK Jr. in his boxer briefs.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

I think Hoover was too busy sharing panties and dresses with Tolson — besides, he didn’t “do” black people.

Bobby was too busy keeping Ethel and Marilyn satisfied.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

July 13, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

-=-

Paul —

When you get right down to it -

(In a perverse comparison of events here in the good ol’ USA)

Palestine had a serious immigration problem over the centuries as Jews migrated into Palestine in waves… Sometimes as refugees, sometimes just as their populations outgrew their current living areas.

For a while they were accepted as part of the Palestine community as their numbers were small, but that population percentage was growing in leaps and bounds and soon overwhelmed Palestine and it’s resources.

Then conflicts broke out between the Palestinians and the Jewish settlers as they became a larger and stronger settled population within Palestine. Many conflicts occurred throughout the decades.

Closer to our time (after WW2) we recognized them as their own state much to the dismay of Palestine, who still cosiders them Illegals who have invaded their territory.

But The international community has approved of annexing a portion of Palestine (and a very valuable in resources part of Palestine at that) for the place which is now known as Israel.

But it’s ok folks — We don’t really have the same problem in the USA — Really! We already have that covered! -

We will just return Texas to Mexico - and all will be well as we make it Tejas’….

(smiles)

Cheers `

By The Watcher

July 13, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Can we now call a “lewinsky” an ” Allen”?

By Paul

July 13, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

mm 3:13

Actually, not really. France’s involvement in policing Africa goes back to their colonial days. Their colonies weren’t really countries then but I suppose one could make the case the occupations and takeovers were “warlike.” Same for England, Germany.

Other examples (nonwar) exist. Look at the former Yugoslavia. Of course, we’re still there so another bloodbath (this time by Christians against Muslims) won’t occur, again. Shall we leave? That action got us zip credit from the Islamic world. Many portrayed it as a “Zionist Crusader plot to ….”

I will agree our support of Israel is “one” reason (not “the reason”) many in the Muslim world despise us. Of course, those same people want Holocaust II. Including Iran’s Pres. Is that a good thing?

I think the main reason for the hate is Western Individualism. You know, respect for the individual, women’s rights, gay rights, believe what you want, leave me alone. That, plus we’re just too strong to roll over and play dead and let them restore their Caliphate.

Let’s see, wingnuts = real conservative. Moonbat = real liberal. Got it. I don’t suppose you’re familiar with the thesis that the Liberal (moonbat?) Moral Imperialism of the 1990s (you know, impose our will in Bosnia, too late in Rwanda, other “humanitarian” imperialistic actions) is one factor that led to our current debacle in Iraq?

Link: The Last Liberal Holdout

As far as staying out of others’ business, is it safe to say you’re a Liberal who will have us mind our own business when it comes to Dharfur? So far, that seems to be a Conservative position - that’s why I’m a bit confused.

Midori!!!

Please!!!! (3:47)

There are some visuals we just do NOT need!!!!!

@@ 3:48

Uh, that would be Bobby and big brother Jack - with Marilyn.

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Dennis the Menace speaks…

(((An angry Dennis Kucinich lashed out at John Edwards on Friday, saying his Democratic rival showed “a consistent lack of integrity” by suggesting fewer candidates should participate in presidential forums and then trying to explain his remark to reporters.)))

(((Both Edwards and Clinton were asked about the exchange Friday, and offered different explanations.)))

(((In New Hampshire, Clinton seemed to lay responsibility on Edwards.)))

(((“I think he has some ideas about what he’d like to do,” she said, adding she liked participating in the forums.)))

It ^^^ must be a vast left-wing conspiracy thang.

(((For his part, Edwards told reporters in Iowa that he wasn’t in favor of barring anyone from future gatherings. Rather, he said he wanted to see them separated into two groups of four each, chosen randomly.)))

(((Say what???? I thought John Edwards was all about closing the gap, not creating a gap.)))

Shameful, just shameful.

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

O.K. Paul, Bobby and Jack Kennedy in a “squeeeeeze play” with Marilyn while eyeballing MLK in his boxer shorts.

Now THERE’S a visual.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

@@ 4:18

Okay, I’ll ask (take the bait):

So do Hillary and Edwards take responsibility just like Pres Bush takes responsibility?

Time for another Congressional hearing!

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Oops! Remove those ((( )))s from the next to last paragraph.

The “I” is me.

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Oh shute, I’m sorry Paul, the way my 4:24 is worded it looks like you are in bed with Bobby, Jack & Marilyn eyeballing MLK.

By IN THE NEWS

July 13, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

White House, Pentagon cite executive privilege to hold up documents on friendly fire victim Tillman

By steve-o

July 13, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

@@,

Yes, yes…it seems that many white women gaze and wonder what’s behind black men’s boxer shorts.

By Bumper Sticker

July 13, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

By @@

rushncap: What am I saying?

This place is a waste of time. Time that could be better spent doing something constructive. Like the other conservatives, I rarely stop in anymore.

9:18, 9:24, 9:44, 10:13, 10:32, 10:40, 11:08, 1:25, 3:01, 3:44, 3:48, 4:18, 4:27

rarely: infrequently; seldom; not often; happening or occurring at long intervals; not constant, habitual, or regular

ONLY 13 rarities so far today.

Unless it depends on what your definition of is (rare) is.

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Sure Paul, why not?

(((Time for another Congressional hearing!)))

it’s not like we’ve got anything important going on.

Do you not have a premium subscription to Stratfor?

Mine expired July 7th. The price increase was outrageous. I can get it at the same price I paid before, but it will have to be in my daughter’s name. They give discounts to active military and students.

I’ve got to wait for her to return from the U.K. though.

I’m suffering withdrawals. The e-mails just don’t give me enough information.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

@@ 4:29

That didn’t occur to me until you brought it up. Thbbbpppppt.

Okay, it’s getting late on Friday and it’s quiet here so I’ll digress a bit.

British TV had a series in the 1980s - wicked humor. Skewered everyone. The characters were puppets, distorted features, of real people. You can get PAL DVDs and play them on a universal player.

When Teddy Kennedy was running for Pres and there was all the excited, dreamy talk of a Return to Camelot and the “romance” of the Kennedy days Spitting Images did a skit.

Ted Kennedy sitting at a table, facing the camera, looked like an owl, big jowls, reporters with their backs to us jumping about shouting questions when one comes through:

“Senator Kennedy, with you running for President and all this talk about your brothers, how do you feel?”

Kennedy: “I feel terrible.”

Freeze action. Reporters look stunned. One asks “Why do you feel terrible?”

Kennedy: “How would you feel if you found out you were the only one of your brothers who hadn’t screwed Marilyn Monroe?”

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

steve-o:

Dream on buddy. A man’s smile, character, and sense of humor is what attracts me.

By sceyence

July 13, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

I’ve never posted before but I do occasionally like to read the hilarity here… here’s a joke for y’all. I miss that crazy Luckodull dude that used to always post first. Anyway… here’s my joke.

Q: What’s the difference between an islamic terrorist and a neo-conservative? A: The name.

By Robert

July 13, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Dustmite, shut up and get to work. You’ve got enemas to give - and especially, take. Perhaps they can rig one to your brain. For a thorough cleansing. Prior to attempting to surgically resect your scrotum. From that location.

For God’s sake and on behalf of all good, decent, right-thinking born-again Christians and purveyors of good, decent family values, get on with it! Perhaps the move will spread to your fellow-travelers.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

Cost of Iraq Occupation: $442B and counting; Cost of Shaming Clueless Chickenhawk: Priceless

Typical gop coward.

Geez.

By steve-o

July 13, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

{{{Dream on buddy. A man’s smile, character, and sense of humor is what attracts me.}}}

@@,

Well I guess that disqualifies any conservative or Republican…

By @@

July 13, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

OMG Paul. You made me laugh out loud with that Ted Kennedy bit.

There’s nothing that can compare to British humor.

My husband has an American sense of humor that made our British pastor roar with laughter. My husband is a funny guy but a penny pincher. I found out why the pool has been cloudy. He bought chlorine tabs off the back of some guy’s truck. When I tested the water it registered “zero” chlorine.

When I showed him the test strip, his eyes got big and he said “I swear that strip..errrr is lying.”

Have a good weekend.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

@@

You, too. I couldn’t respond to your Stratfor - a friend from years back is passing through and called - I’m listening now - have a good weekend.

By @@

July 13, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Oh contraire steve-o.

Rudy Giuliani has a winning smile.

Fred Thompson has a sharp and cutting wit.

Their character. Noone knows the true character of a politician, but so far I like what I see.

Thompson was given the opportunity to insult Giuliani when he addressed the NYC firefighters. He passed on the opportunity and passed my character test with flying colors.

Can you say the same about Hillary and Edwards, both Democrats?

Outta here.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Rudy DOES have a winning smile — 3 out of 4 of his wives agree.

By Dusty

July 13, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

My, what an instuctive day. I must get a message off to Chambliss and congratulate him on staying strong and not running with the wimps-against America group. I don’t even have to ask if he supports the troops ‘cause he does. How good it is to have an American who acts like an American.

Then I’m checking into STRATFOR. @@ and Paul like it. That’s a very good recommendation. Yep, it has been a good day.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

where you going, @@?

got some more sucking to do?

I hear it builds character!!

By @@

July 13, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Midori:

I thought you liberals had no problem with divorce. Does your obsession with divorce and sex stem from a personal experience?

Have a great weekend.

By Lord Help Us

July 13, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Every year since the ill-advised invasion of Iraq, the situation on the ground has gotten worse…(it’s a fact…face it)

Every time Bush references the situation on the ground in Iraq he sees ‘progress…..’

Sad…

Why does anybody still support this incompetent failure?

By steve-o

July 13, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

@@,

I really don’t oogle over my politicians, so I couldn’t tell you. Although Segolene Royal, who ran for president in France, was quite the looker. Anyways, if middle-aged balding men (one of whom sported a comb-over for half of his adult life) is your thing then more power to you.

Midori,

I thought Rudy’s wives liked him for his taste in women’s hosiery…

By Midori

July 13, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

this pic is just dripping with ‘character’

this one as well

Now if we can just figure out which is Rudy and which is Thompson……

By Bumper Sticker

July 13, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

@@Clinton

Character test??!!!

This place is a waste of time. Time that could be better spent doing something constructive. Like the other conservatives, I rarely stop in anymore.

9:18, 9:24, 9:44, 10:13, 10:32, 10:40, 11:08, 1:25, 3:01, 3:44, 3:48, 4:18, 4:27, 4:29, 4:39, 4:44, 4:56, 5:03

rarely: infrequently; seldom; not often; happening or occurring at long intervals; not constant, habitual, or regular

ONLY 18 rare stops today.

Unless it depends on what your definition of is (rare) is.

By Midori

July 13, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

this pic is just dripping with ‘character’

this one as well

Now if we can just figure out which is Rudy and which is Thompson……

By Midori

July 13, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Bumper Sticker,

but ya gotta admit — she’s just dripping with ‘character’ (tho that of Daffy Duck).

By Paul

July 13, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

In the news 4:33

I trust that was most of the relevant information. If so, that’s utterly terrible. I do not see how executive privilege could apply here. It was a terrible tragedy, the circumstances as I read them should not lead to charges, but the subsequent conduct of many in the Army chain of command was deplorable. Isn’t one retired general officer facing charges? Regardless, this is the type of nonsense that weakens further, valid invocations of executive privilege.

At least they didn’t try to classify the reports.

By @@

July 13, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

Midori:

Last comment for the week.

I admire Tancredo for showing up. I was disappointed in the others for not showing up.

Bush showed up plenty of times to address the NAACP. He even admitted that the Republican Party had neglected them.

That makes Bush the exception with the courage to stand up to criticisms. Julian Bond didn’t cut Bush any slack before his appearance years back. Bush showed up anyway.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

@@

If you’re still here, check out

ecosmarte dot com

If you’re not here, check it out anyway!

By AmVet

July 13, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con, Damn man! You’re right! Now that I listen to that voice in my head a little closer, it is Paul McCartney!

Wow, for me to make such a mistake regarding THE band of all time is truly humbling!

BTW, my favorite Beatle? George Harrison. I still love that “All Things Must Pass” three album set.

getalife, that video was interesting. Not necessarily funny. But for me, sad in a way.

I could just picture that guy in a Young Republicans meeting at UGA.

He seems to be the very poster child of the “new” GOP. Those who bluster the most, those who fly the biggest flags, those who pound their chests the most, those who cover their SUVs with Support the Troops stickers are usually the very last in line to go fight. And I mean the very last.

It was cool how those three older guys who were all vets were totally cool. And to watch that 31 year old Bush lover make up every excuse in the book and then back off when challenged to serve was indeed priceless.

By hterrya

July 13, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Musty Dusty keeps banging the drum that progressives are “wimps against America.”

Musty Dusty: I love America. I love what it has ALWAYS stood for, despite the despicable campaign by you NeoCons to turn it into a warmongering, love-of-money, global-corporatism plutocracy.

In 2004, I thought perhaps the NeoCons had been successful in turning the American people into clones of themselves: lacking the morals, compassion, humility, honesty, and integrity Americans have always demonstrated.

But now, you evil, hateful NeoCons have been turned into a tiny 28% circle jerk by the resurrected AMERICAN PEOPLE.

That fact shows on this thread: a few pitiful, brain-dead trolls, making useless NeoCon talking points, in a failed attempt to defend the current corrupt, crooked administration and its global conglomerate pimps.

Support America, resist the Anti-American NeoCons!

By Paul

July 13, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

AmVet

NPR had a panel discussion today, referred to Arnie as the “New GOP.”

Time’s marching on, too many are still mired in the past.

BTW - I saw Paul McCartney in concert - 2005? Show went about 3 hours. He was on stage the whole time. Did one number with the same guitar he used on Ed Sullivan. Did a half hour just by himself - no backups. The guy’s a class act. When the show was over he picked up stuff that had been thrown onstage and autographed it, then tossed it back to the audience. Did that about 20 minutes. He came across as a really decent guy -

By Memory Lane

July 13, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

!!!!!!By Lord Help Us July 13, 2007 5:14 PM Every year since the ill-advised invasion of Iraq, the situation on the ground has gotten worse…(it’s a fact…face it)!!!!!!!

By Lord Help Us September 11, 2006 08:27 AM Finally, the insurgency is in its last throes…Oops… This from the chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq - Col Pete Devlin: Devlin reports that there are no functioning Iraqi government institutions in Anbar, leaving a vacuum that has been filled by the insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq, which has become the province’s most significant political force, said the Army officer, who has read the report. Another person familiar with the report said it {{{{{{{{{{{{{describes Anbar as beyond repair;}}}}}}}}}}}} a third said it concludes that the United States has lost in Anbar. Please, we need one of the koolaid drinking wingnuts to tell us how successful our misadventure in Iraq has been…HURRY!!!

Just last fall the terrorist-infested province of Anbar was a lost cause. Today, its tribal leaders are allied with the U.S. military and thousands there are joining the police. Anbar was the worst place in Iraq through most of 2006,” retired four-star Gen. Jack Keane told Investor’s Business Daily just before leaving on a two-week trip to Iraq this week. But now, says Keane, co-author with military historian Frederick Kagan of an American Enterprise Institute paper on which the U.S. military’s new “surge” strategy is based, Anbar “has turned around faster than anyone thought possible.”

By N-GA

July 13, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Chambliss addresses the Senate in opposition to the Support the Troops bill of Senator Webb:

The last 5-6 sentences are the most telling.

By @@

July 13, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Alright, THIS is my last comment unless I find something else interesting to share.

Researchers track dust, soot from China

(((“The cars and factories we have in the United States are among the cleanest in the world and it’s difficult to make them cleaner,” Jacob said. “So the question is whether we should maybe invest some basic air pollution controls in China as a more cost-effective way of dealing with some of the pollution problems we have.”)))

Blowing smoke rings around the globe.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Well, well, well

Seems Hillary supports a top tax rate of 15 percent for her millionaire buddies who donate big bucks to her campaign. That’s half the current top rate. And if the top rate goes up for the “rich” folks her buddies will be excluded.

Fair is… in the eye of the beholder’s checkbook.

Go get her, Obama -

Link: Hillary on tax fairness

Looking more and more like a stereotypical fat cat corporate Republican, doesn’t she?

By AmVet

July 13, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Ahhh-nuld is the new “new” GOP?

Wow, who woulda thunk it?

I’m not convinced. Other than in liberal California, and a few other locales, I doubt his politics are even seen as relevant by a significant part of his party.

Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats - my kinda people! Oh no! I’m one big oxymoron!

I have a funny story about McCartney. I remember reading some many years ago about some bloke who traveled a great distance to see the then pre-Sir Paul. When he found him McCartney apparently told him to pi-ss off!

Alas, I have never seen a living Beatle, but my life was forever changed when at eight years old I first heard Please, Please Me and Love Me Do.

And thanks to those four boys from Liverpool, to this day there has always been a musical backdrop to my life.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

N-GA

All these comparisons (on both sides) of Iraq to WWII are pretty much way off the mark. Maybe if Chambliss had talked to his dad about WWII he wouldn’t have made such dumb comparisons.

Same for the “why don’t you serve” argument. It’s pure emotion.

By @@

July 13, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

I said I’d be back if I had anything interesting to report.

Good news is always interesting to read.

To some folks anyway…

The US surge strategy is making “definitive progress” in one of Iraq’s most fiercely contested provinces and US troops there could be reduced as early as January, a US commander said Friday.

(((Major General Benjamin Mixon said the US forces in Diyala province — about six combat brigades — could be cut in half over a 12- to 18-month period beginning in January.)))

(((“I think that over time in a very methodical and well thought out way — and I’m only speaking for MultiNational Division North — we could have a reduction of force that could begin in January 2008,” Mixon said via videolink from Iraq.)))

He’s only speaking for MultiNational Division North so you liberals restrain your enthusiasm please.

Wouldn’t want a riot or anything.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

@@

If I may ask, where in England is your daughter?

Better save up for going to see her - dollar’s about two to one against the pound.

By Buy Danish

July 13, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

The last six sentences of WHAT? That blog commentary you linked to only posted a few sentences of Chambliss’ speech out of context. Can we see the whole speech please?

Paul,

How is it unreasonable to make a comparison to the length of deployments in Iraq versus WWII?

But hey, if N-GA and others agree not to make any comparisons to the “quagmire of Vietnam”….

By getalife

July 13, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Looks like @@ and Paul win the last comic standing.

One said the chicken hawk argument is pure emotion and the other believes the military.

We have a tie.

Geez.

By Steve

July 13, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

@@: you need the same enema Dusty’s getting and Paul is scheduling.

By Buy Danish

July 13, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

From N-GA’s incompletus speechus interruptus link -

{{{“It is an unwise and harmful effort to limit the ability of the President and his military leaders and handicap their use of personnel and resources available to them,” said Chambliss, in arguing for sending troops back to Iraq——————> with insufficient rest and medical care.<——————}}}

How do you define “insufficient rest and medical care”?

Isn’t the implication here is that Bush (with Chambliss’ approval) is sending wounded and injured troops into battle?

By @@

July 13, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Paul:

She’s doing a 3 1/2 week studies program.

She started out at Cambridge for a couple of days, went to London; then to Bathe and today she’s in Radstock. Tomorrow it’ll be Mendip Area of Outstanding Beauty.

Personally I’ve never been drawn to Europe.

Australia and maybe New Zealand. We’re talking with our next door neighbors about a possible trip to New Zealand this winter.

Australia is my choice and I’m not talking about Sydney and Melbourne. I’m talking the “bush”.

Elbows and a***** ain’t my thang.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Several areas. First, it was a different type of warfare. As was pointed out to a poster this week in response to the “it’s lasted longer than WWII line” - well, we could fight WWII style - bring on some B-52s with incendiaries and obliterate any city or area with insurgents. Take fire from a village, call in artillery and destroy it. It was a vicious war. A weakness in the example is we’re in a country with a gov’t we’re trying to support - so possible VietNam is a fairer example. But our free-fire zones, Agent Orange and other tactics would never fly today.

It may be possible that a higher percentage of forces in-theater in Iraq see combat than did troops in WWII. Many in WWII - I once read 85 percent - never saw combat. I haven’t verified it, though.

WWII had in-theater rotations, Rest and Recreation facilities. I don’t believe Army and Marines have anything comparable (at least for the length of recuperation) in Iraq. Air Force doesn’t count. They bring in air conditioners and Barcoloungers before they finish building runways.

This is much more an insurgency type operation. Not a conventional war. Results in different stresses, attitudes among the troops that requires (IMHO) more frequent separations from the theater to clear their heads.

WWII - there was an end in sight. Iraq - sadly, not so. It reminds me of the “light at the end of the tunnel” line from Vietnam. That also affects the psyche of the soldier. And I do distinguish this operation from the general war against jihadists.

Some general answers, I know - but I hope I’ve given some valid reasons.

By getalife

July 13, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute, we have a late comedy entry with BD not supporting the troops.

We have a clear winner, BD.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

July 13, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Steve aka Robert ad nauseum,

I doesn’t surprise me that an a*******h*le like you is something of an expert on enemas.

By Paul

July 13, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Just a follow-up.

The cynic in me says the Webb/whoever else troop rotation thing is more a way to undermine the administration than a real concern for the troops. This way they can bring to bear a policy of “support the troops” which has the practical effect of crippling the Army’s ability to conduct the mission with which it’s been charged.

You see, these Congresspersons fought and caved on a losing effort to cut off funding. In so doing they lost to the administration. So this is just another tactic to get the troops out.

The military’s been given a mission. They’ll pull out all stops to do it. This plan could be even more disruptive to many military troops and their families in the long run.

By Buy Danish

July 13, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t know if one of my posts is going to make it - it hasn’t yet, so I apologize if some of this is repetitive.

As I said in my missing post, there is no question that this bill is nothing but an attempt to force us to pull out of Iraq by using an abundance of rules and regulations to make it impossible to sustain troop levels.

The dems are great at this sort of bureaucratic crapola (couched in plaintive speeches that are meant to touch the heartstrings of gullible constituents).

BTW, I feel the same way about CAFE’ standards - something you approve of and I think is nonsense.

By Pope rednecks - Amerikkka's Al Qaeda I

July 13, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Greetings from London to the decent folk and the Lickodull loser squad from We your Pope. Just returned from a night on the town - Edgeware Road, the Marble Arch, Liecester Square, Trafalgar Square.

Hundreds of thousands of happy Englishmen and women out in the streets and bars and theatres tonight, unlike the Lickodull losers, showing no fear.

You filthy witless cowardly Bush lovers - burn in Hell.

We the Pope have spoken.