Mike Luckovich

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

There is not one Republican candidate or candidate wannabe that could earn my vote next year.

But I have an honest admiration for John McCain. I very strongly disagree with most everything he says, but he speaks from his heart.

I’d like to see his campaign continue. He and Ron Paul and a small amount of color to the pastey white GOP slate.

Senator McCain, I can’t vote for you, but you’re welcome for lively debate and dinner any time.

Onward to impeachment fellow patriots!

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

It will be 97 in Seattle today. Their average temp in July is around 65.

I guess Buy Dhimmi’s snarky little remark about how cool it is where she is (therefore there is no global warming) has just been trumped.

By STOP THE WAR

July 11, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

NOW!

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Just like the Repug candidates have stated during their debates, the Repugnant Party “has lost its way” and America no longer believes they have a plan that will help us as leaders of the free world. Really sad.

By Eric

July 11, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

I admired John McCain until he jumped into bed with george bush and jerry falwell. He sold out to the right wing nut jobs and now he’s paying the price. You reap what you sow.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Former Surgeon General Richard H. Carmona told a Congressional panel Tuesday that top Bush administration officials repeatedly tried to weaken or suppress important public health reports because of POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Senate Panel Votes to Cut Cheney Funding

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

Prior to his capitulation to the Bush Administration on torture, I would have considered voting for McCain ahead of some of the potential Dem candidates.

He took what appeared to be a principled stand, then caved, then never brought it up again.

I guess he now considers torture to be an acceptable policy of the US gov’t…

By Duh stands for Democrat

July 11, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

Dear Democrats,

McCain was your candidate.

Why do you think he can’t raise any money and his campaign is failing?

Oh, and how much courage did you have to muster to take on the 12th place Republican presidential candidate?

However, we will take McCain’s advice on occasion:

{{{{{{{{{“General Petraeus and his commanders believe that they have a strategy that can, over time, lead to success in Iraq. General Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker will come to Washington in September to report on the status of their efforts, and those of the Iraqis. They ask just two things of us: the time necessary to see whether their efforts can succeed, and the political courage to support them in their work. I believe that we must give them both.}}}}}}}}}

He’s pretty sharp for a lib.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

An Al Qaeda cell may be in the US ready to attack at any moment… so Bush is scheduling an emergency meeting… in a few days, or so…

No rush. They may be about to attack, so the meeting is for Thursday because, you know, today or tomorrow would have been, uh, too early.

The White House leaked this report to ABC in order to influence the Iraq debate in Congress this week. Does anyone really believe that Bush is having a super secret counter terror meeting and it just happens to leak out by accident? If so, then I’m waiting for Bush to launch his criminal investigation of the leak the same way he always does with leaks that he doesn’t intend. In fact Karl Rove is helping run Iraq strategy for the White House. Yes, Karl Rove, the guy who does politics, not substance, is in charge of Iraq strategy now. And 24 hours later we see a leak like this? No coincidence there.

I guess this means Bush will cancel his usual month-long vacation in August, to deal with the threat.

Unfortunately for us, it’s not a case of “if we leave they’ll follow us home”. It’s more like “they’re coming here because we’re there”.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

The comedy starts early today.

“McCain was your candidate.”

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Think Progress reports that a Senate appropriations committee denied nearly $5 million in funding to Republican VP Dick Cheney yesterday. Mr Cheney is unwilling to provide information regarding the handling of classified information by his office.

Sorry Dick. You’ll have to clean your room before you get your allowance.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

My last post was courtesy of Blog for Democracy

I failed to credit them in the original post.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

That IS funny Mrs. Godzilla. McCain was NEVER my candidate. He’s just as wacky as the rest of the CONservtives.

There was a time when I sort of admired the guy but he has since fallen in lockstep with the neocons and the religious wrong factions of his party.

By JNH

July 11, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

By Eric July 11, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this I admired John McCain until he jumped into bed with george bush and jerry falwell. He sold out to the right wing nut jobs and now he’s paying the price. You reap what you sow.

Eric, my sentiments exactly. I thought he was a principled man, but he has proven otherwise.

By HUH??

July 11, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

JNH,

John McCain was originally for the Iraq war and when the political winds shifted he remained for the Iraq war. You may not like that stance, but it is still principled.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Sure, McCain took a principled stand on the Iraq War.

He also took a principled stand on the Immigration legislation.

On the other hand, he caved without explanation on the US policy of torture and he caved to Falwell (God rest his soul) in what appeared to be a pure political move to position himself for the GOP nomination.

He may truly believe what he says about how much improvement he is seeing in Iraq, his shopping trip to a Baghdad market complete with dozens of troops, humvees and Apaches…

Heck he may even believe that the war in Iraq is worth the sacrifice of 50,000 US troops and $10 Trillion (in addition to the 3,600 lives already sacrificed).

By Cleared!

July 11, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

SAN DIEGO (AP) - The government’s case against a Marine accused of fatally shooting Iraqi civilians in the town of Haditha lacks sufficient evidence to go to a court-martial and should be dropped, a hearing officer determined.

By @@

July 11, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

So John goes from “Big Mac” to “Quarter Pounder” while Rudy opens up his cabinet of foreign “goodies”, and shows us his heavy hitters.

A very impressive menu.

By JNH

July 11, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

By HUH?? July 11, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this JNH, John McCain was originally for the Iraq war and when the political winds shifted he remained for the Iraq war. You may not like that stance, but it is still principled.

Huh? Yep, he took a stand on the war, and he continues to support the “war.” He’s proven he would support Alice in Wonderland if it would help him get elected. Sorry Huh, I have no respect.

By HUH??

July 11, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

JNH,

I bet losing the respect of an idiot blogger is devastating to a candidate.

By Fact Check

July 11, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Cleared

no not really….

not quite yet

maybe, maybe not

The hearing officer made a RECOMMENDATION

Accuracy please.

By IN THE NEWS

July 11, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Haditha: Marine eyewitnesses come forward (Update: Audio and video of the attack?)

HERE”S WHAT THIS WEBSITE SAYS ABOUT ITSELF BY THE WAY

“A Note from the Founder Welcome to the world’s first full-service conservative Internet broadcast network!”

By Cleared!

July 11, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

By THOMAS WATKINS Associated Press Writer The hearing officer, Lt. Col. Paul Ware, wrote in a report released by the defense Tuesday that those charges were based on unreliable witness accounts, insupportable forensic evidence and questionable legal theories. He also wrote that the case could have dangerous consequences on the battlefield, where soldiers might hesitate during critical moments when facing an enemy.

By Fact Check

July 11, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Much better Cleared!

You’ll get the hang of it.

By We support the troops?

July 11, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Look at all the “troop supporting” leftists all in a panic that our Marines might be cleared of murder charges.

Some support!

By getalife

July 11, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

If anybody is going to be charged with murder in Iraq, it should be w and cheney.

McLoser is history.

Rudy has bad karma. Vitter backed him and his main aide busted with coke.

Lazy Fred is an abortion lobbyist and snitched for Nixon. Nixon said he was dumb.

Willard loves torture for his dog and flip flops.

Heck of a field.

Clinton/Obama, the ultimate karma.

By We support Satan

July 11, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Look at all the rightists who don’t give a rats @$$ about murder or the truth.

Some American! Some Christian!

By Dr. I.Q.

July 11, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

With all due respects, you could probably find a better candidate from selecting randomly from the first two rows at a Willie Nelson concert.

By reebok

July 11, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Al Gore, w/ Obama as Veep candidate, would crush any combo the GOP could trot out. After 8 years of Dubya, a couple of intelligent, informed, competent candidates would look pretty good to voters. I’m just afraid Gore won’t come in. He seems to be having a lot of fun doing what he’s doing.

Any GOP candidate would demolish Hillary C in the general election.

By Reporter

July 11, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Does anybody know when or where the press conference is scheduled? You know, the one where John Murtha will apologize for calling our Marines cold blooded killers and then resign in disgrace.

By Dusty

July 11, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Well, let’s see. Today’s Whack-A-Republican is our esteemed John McCain as done by our twittering liberal Mikey Luckovich.

McCain is only a Viet Nam veteran who served years as a POW and still loved his country and fights for it any way he can.

Ah, but Luckovich has won his laurels by receiving a leftist PULITZER ..and… he ONCE visited a VA hospital Golly gee! That settles it. Mikey knows more about the military and war than John McCain. So give a cheer for our retreating, supporter of anti-Americanism by picture, Luckovich. Forget John McCain.

Who needs Americans fighting for their country and supporting it? We’ve got Luckovich to tell us how sorry we Americans are, sorry people like McCain.

Oh yeah, and don’t forget the liberal mantra. BUSH DID IT—whatever it was….

By Gorebasm

July 11, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Al Gore couldn’t even get anybody to watch a free concert and global warming polls below dog poop on a scale of things people are concerned about. Please run Al!

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Reporter- I believe the press conference in question is scheduled to take place right after Bush’s press conference where he apologizes for getting over 3,500 American troops killed for nothing and then leaves for Crawford never to be seen or heard from again.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

If you include the actual concert attendees, the podcasts and broadcasts on conventional and satellite radio the Live Earth concerts did very well. Television is going the way of printed newspapers. Most people just don’t bother anymore. I don’t know anyone who didn’t watch or listen to part if not all of Live Earth. When I wasn’t watching it on the internet I was listening on XM radio. Excellent show by the way.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

“Anti-Neo-Con” Dimwit,

I don’t “Buy Dhimmitude”, I am ferociously anti-Dhimmi, and it is particularly foolish of you to assign a nickname to me that accurately describes yourself and legions of dangerously loony Leftists.

For the benefit of others who (unlike the particular dimwit I am addressing) may actually possess the capacity to think, this is as good a definition of Dhimmitude as any:

“As for the concept of dhimmitude, it represents a behavior dictated by fear (terrorism), pacifism when aggressed, rather than resistance, servility because of cowardice and vulnerability. The origin of this concept is to be found in the condition of the Infidel people who submit to the Islamic rule without fighting in order to avoid the onslaught of jihad. By their peaceful surrender to the Islamic army, they obtained the security for their life, belongings and religion, but they had to accept a condition of inferiority, spoliation and humiliation. As they were forbidden to possess weapons and give testimony against a Muslim, they were put in a position of vulnerability and humility.”

Speaking of loony Leftists……>

Mrs. Godzilla,

You’ll have to explain how John McCain is heroic while George Bush is evil, since they are firmly aligned on the most important issues of our time - the Iraq War as part of the larger War on Terror, and Immigration.

The fact that conservatives do support the War but do not support their disastrous immigration policy (not to mention opposing McCain-Feingold which Bush foolishly signed) kinda blows the rhetoric that we are robotic “Bush Bots” now - doesn’t it?

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Reporter (man are you ‘dull’),

I believe Murtha’s presser is scheduled right after the Bush/Cheney presser apologizing to all Americans (but especially the family and loved ones of our fallen soldiers) for misleading this country into a war of choice and executing that war with unprecedented incompetence.

Some are speculating (nay, hoping)that this long overdue apology will be accompanied by their resignations.

Murtha will be right behind them…

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Reebok, I am with you 100%

All those folks who voted Gore 2000 will do so again. That number will increase.

Obama will bring some new voters to the table.

But, will he jump in?

And more importantly, will we fight back every day against all the bullshi+ that’s going to be tossed at them by an increasingly desperate GOP? (See above)

It will be all smears and fears again.

But we can, and will beat ‘em.

Don’t forget to talk IMPEACHMENT today!

By rustylynn

July 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

sad to see where Doug Marlette, former AJC cartoonist, was killed

By @@

July 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

Don’t ever move to liberal Vermont. You’ll be torn on the issues.

(((Community rejects town government reforms)))

(((ISLE LA MOTTE, Vt.—Four months after the former town clerk admitted she misappropriated $100,000 in town funds, residents have rejected proposals aimed at reforming town government.)))

(((D’OH-SIGNATED SPRINGFIELD)))

(((Springfield, Vt. - home to a bowling alley, a bar, a prison and a nuclear-power plant - has won “The Simpsons Movie Springfield Challenge,” and the right to host the premiere of the new Simpsons flick on July 26.)))

Those liberal Vermonters have really got their priorities in order.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Don’t ask, don’t tell

By getalife

July 11, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

@@,

I voted for Springfield, La.

At least they did not reelect Joe Loserman like Conn.

Geez.

By @@

July 11, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Battle at Pakistani Mosque Ends

(((Mr. Aziz was arrested last week while trying to flee the compound in a burqa.)))

So we’ve got Musharraf who has been behind the learning curve when it comes to militants in Pakistan. That makes him a liberal, then…

we’ve got a male militant who puts on a “burqa” to escape in the face of immenent death. That makes him a liberal too.

Let’s hope Musharraf if finally learning that these radicals can’t be appeased.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

PLEASE let Al Gore run, and may I suggest that Robert Kennedy, Jr. should be his running mate?!

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish.

First I don’t have to explain anything to you. I’ve tried and it’s a waste of time.

How ever did you get the words, McCain is heroic out of what I posted? Or for that matter, however did you get Bush is evil out of that either?

I am proud to see that you have backed away from the administrations’ original rhetoric….so the War in Iraq and the War on Terror are not one in the same (albeit connected).

I must disagree, I have yet to see sufficient evidence that you are not a BushBot. Bushbots are people too, it’s ok.

It is a lot easier to debate, when you get to make up BOTH the questions and the answers.

Peace my sister.

By getalife

July 11, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

“‘98 Vitter OpEd Calls For Clinton Impeachment “Because He Is Morally Unfit To Govern”

Karma.

Geez.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

“I’ve heard he’s been called Bush’s poodle. He’s bigger than that.” —George W. Bush, on former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, as quoted by the Sun newspaper, June 27, 2007

””“Lapdogs come in all sizes”“”

“Amnesty means that you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that.” —George W. Bush, on the immigration reform bill, Washington, D.C., June 26, 2007

””“Get that man a dictionary as a going away present.”“”

By Bosch

July 11, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Iraqi Strategy - Plan B

A) Move troops out of daily combat and fight only alQaeda

Okay, I can live with that, for now, but how do you tell? When there are attacks, doesn’t it take a while to determine if they are alQaeda attacks?

I just saw a Sr. Fellow from, yes, the Heritage Foundation just say that this plan is stupid. I have to agree with him.

B) Train Iraq troops

What the hell have they been doing for the past 4 years?

C) Protect Iraqi borders

What about our borders?

By IN THE NEWS

July 11, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Sen. Snowe to co-sponsor Iraq withdrawal bill. According to CNN, Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) has officially signed on as a co-sponsor to legislation withdrawing troops from Iraq by April 30, 2008. CNN’s Dana Bash reports

By @@

July 11, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Oops! “imminent” not “immenent”.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

How ever, indeed? In addition to reading your daily “contributions” for a very long time now, we have this -

{{{By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

…But I have an honest admiration for John McCain. I very strongly disagree with most everything he says, but he speaks from his heart.

I’d like to see his campaign continue. He and Ron Paul and a small amount of color to the pastey white GOP slate.

Senator McCain, I can’t vote for you, but you’re welcome for lively debate and dinner any time.

Onward to impeachment fellow patriots!}}}

Maybe you are too dull to understand the implications of your own posts?

You want to impeach Bush for pursuing a policy which McCain agrees with, but when it’s McCain it goes into the “lively debate” and “speaking from the heart” category?

Are you sure Karl Rove isn’t pulling McCain’s strings, or that McCain doesn’t have stock in Halliburton?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

July 11, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

-=-

@@?

Muslim fanatics liberal???

Are you insane?

Lets see =-

They are:

Anti-liberal and very conservative in their beliefs and actions

Devoutly Religious

Believe strongly in capitol punishment. (for most anything)

Believe that Religion should be the foundation of their government.

Believe in excessive use of military force.

Believe in harsh sentences for Criminals.

Are against abortion

Are against womens rights and other equal rights initiatives

Are against Same sex marriage (and gays in general)

—

Well this list could go on and on — but basically you get the idea - Don’t you!

Thomas/PNAC

“Religions of all types have their fanatics, and there lies the danger of arrogance and many other sins in the name of God!”

By Bumper Sticker

July 11, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

By @@

rushncap: What am I saying?

This place is a waste of time. Time that could be better spent doing something constructive. Like the other conservatives, I rarely stop in anymore.

July 10 - 1:18, 1:34, 1:42, 2:02, 2:13, 2:16, 3:36, 5:53

July 11 - 10:09, 11:26, 11:36, 11:48

12 rarities in less than a day and a half.

Conservative credibility? You decide.

By Drive-by Media

July 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Notice the fear in Bye Stainedpant’s blogs? Notice the hysterics in @@’s?

The right is afraid of themselves and what they have wrought in supporting Bush/Cheney.

Now we liberals know that the neo-buns didn’t mean nuthin, they couldn’t have known what they were doing, they are after all, just mouthpieces of hatespeak in perpetual drool.

We must ignore them. We have a country to save, and a world to convince.

We aint nevah gonna git outta Iraq.

Now what do we do? Draft. We need at least a million men. Not felons and old men, either.

Hillary is our next prez.

By Mexicans for America

July 11, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Drive by - What about granting instant citizenship to illegal aliens if they join the military? If they want to come here, then they have to fight for us. Mexico v. Iran?

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

thomas the talking dhimmi,

Why is it that American conservatives fiercely oppose Islamists while liberals coddle and appease them?

By getalife

July 11, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Wilson: “The Obstruction Of Justice Is Ongoing And [Bush] Has Emerged As Its Greatest Protector”.

w and cheney are cowards who will not accept accountabilty for outing a CIA agent.

They cut and run from the law.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

July 11, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

-=-

Instead of deporting illegals — lets put them in the army! Perhaps after 9 tours of duty they can apply for citzenship

Solve 2 problems at the same time..

Cheers -

By @@

July 11, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Well Thomas, looking at your list there, I can’t for the life of me understand why you’re so eager for their arrival onto the American stage.

It looks like you liberals will be the first ones to “lose your heads” while throwing them a welcome party.

It was the “burqa” reference, intended in humor. I was rather surprised that a “male” militant would put on a burqa to escape from the mosque. I thought there was some kind of shame associated with being “(wo)man” over there.

Oh well, when people are “askeered”, it’s O.K. to run dressed like a woman.

How many women are in Congress now?

Let’s count; there’s Harry Reid…

By Bosch

July 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

In order for the Iraqi government to make progress and meet our benchmark, shouldn’t they at least show up for work? Maybe the new Iraq Plan B strategy should call for that as well.

By Maya

July 11, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

How easily most of us are led to drop our consciousness to the lowest common denominator, to react in kind to those with dark consciousness. How would the world change if we could remain true to our own light and, rather than being re-actors, maintain a higher consciousness and act and speak from that place? The consciousness of violence, the verbal violence displayed on these blogs, makes it so clear how we as a collective conscience create the violence that fills the world around us every day. And it is those who come from such low consciousness who are the first to condemn the violent offender, who want to treat him with violence, rather than seeing that we, each and every one of us, create the violent offender and are just like him in our hearts! We need not worry about the splinter in the other man’s/woman’s eye; we need to remove the log from our own eye.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

“Maybe you are too dull to understand the implications of your own posts? “

I suppose YOU would have to think so.

But, as with most things you think, it just isn’t so.

And you’re not very good at assumptions either.

The Occupation for Oil, is only one of a nearly endless list of reasons to impeach Bush. As I have discovered from reading your daily “contributions” for a very long time now, nothing Bush has done or ever will do will make you see what 70% of American see. Your Bush colored glasses will remain clipped onto your face forever. Hey, it’s your choice.

McCain and Rove or Haliburton? Whatever is that all about?

I truly look forward to February 2009, blogging here with you and enjoying your unconditional support for President Gore. Or Obama. Or Clinton. Or Edwards. You will be so much more tolerable.

Tell us again all the great things that have happened to the USA because of W? Please!

Peace my sister.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Thank God our Funny Morons® are slowly coming back. I really need a good laugh around this time of day. Their absurdities are just so hilarious.

I really hope they don’t think anyone takes them seriously anymore.

Let’s hear it for the 26 Percent Club!

By IN THE NEWS

July 11, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Overprivileged Executive

By Bumper Sticker

July 11, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Why is it that American conservatives fiercely oppose Islamists while liberals coddle and appease them?

Why are there rhetorical questions?

And why do I ask so many?

By Fly-on-the-wall

July 11, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

I have an idea for the Iraqi government’s plan for sharing the funds from their oil revenue. Send a few billion dollars our way once in a while to pay for this darn war that was suppose to be paid with Iraq’s oil money. Either that or we can bill the Republican Party for the difference since they and all their followers got us into this mess.

By getalife

July 11, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Reid was right.

This occupation is lost because the Iraqi government does not even bother to show up.

Just more wasted lives and billions.

Pathetic.

By Bosch

July 11, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Getalife, From what I just saw on CNN 12 out of 275 members of the Iraqi Parliament came to work after their month long vacation.

What’s wrong with this picture?

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

BD, @@, and the other usual suspect(s) hiding behind new nicks:

I have a simple question…

How many US soldiers would need to die in Iraq before you would begin to support bringing them home?

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Bush spoke in Ohio yesterday and blamed all Americans for lawsuits on doctors, not choosing the correct health plan, being in poor health, etc. It goes on and on. His new talking point is the “Federalization of health care.” The medical industry is freaking since Moore’s movie came out. They need us dumbed down and Bush tries to do that for them. Having a health savings account won’t help you when your HMO refuses treatment.

By getalife

July 11, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

It is a loser like the gop cowards:

“Today the Republican Party once again lacked the courage to put their votes where their mouths are, and once again blocked a vote to support our troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. By a 41-56 vote, Republicans blocked an up and down vote on the Webb Amendment, proving yet again that for the Republican Party, supporting the troops is just a slogan. Because when it came time to act, they returned to their accustomed role as the President’s lackey.”

Talk about no spine.

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

July 11, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Republicans Kill Webb’s Troop-Protection Amendment

{{{the always-worthless Joe Lieberman voted with Republicans to kill Webb’s troop-protection amendment to the Defense Department authorization bill, along with Senator Pete Domenici (R-NM) who just showed how sincere he is in his statements about breaking ranks with George W. Bush on the Iraq occupation.}}}

{{{Among those joining Senate Democrats in supporting the Webb measure, were Republicans Norm Coleman, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, John Sununu, Chuck Hagel, Gordon Smith and John Warner — all but Snowe are up for reelection next year.}}}

By Dusty

July 11, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, please! We have passed prehistoric times and you need to catch up.

You want a list of our President’s accomplishments? There are quite a few. But before you run off to the drug store to get your prescriptions filled under the new drug plan for Seniors, give us Clinton’s accomplishments.

You go first. Think hard now. And don’t say it isn’t fair to mention Clinton. Why not? Because he’s a liberal? His “accomplishments” are well know thoughout the world. Many women are quite aware of them. Maybe you could list them.

Tranquility to you too, madam.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Dusty…nice dodge.

By Midori

July 11, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

look at that sorry, disgusting, shameful cop out at 1:18

let’s compare this

to this

By mm

July 11, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Answer the question. Provide a list of GWB’s accomplishments. Don’t duck the issue by bringing up Clinton again. He’s been out of office for 6 1/2 years. By the way, he balanced the budget. Your turn.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Great…the latest example of so-called ‘support’ for our troops:

Legislation that would have required longer troop rests between combat deployments fell today to a Republican filibuster…

Hope the soldiers know who to thank…

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Which prehistoric times are you talking about? The 6000 year one or the real one? And where did that come from? and what does it mean? Do you wish to discuss fossils? Was that your idea of a segue? And a segue from what to what?

You are creating a debate with yourself. Buy Danish vs. Buy Danish,

And you still can’t win.

To top it off you can’t name anything right off the top of your head that has benefitted the USA via W? And you think I’ll be drawn into some silly sidebar? DUH.

Relax, my sister. Peace will find you.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Austin–I just spent the weekend in this state capital, talkin’ impeachment at a meeting organized by the Texas Green Party, World Can’t Wait and Austin Impeach (www.austinimpeach.org), and was flying back home via Atlanta. As I was boarding my flight, the pilot, an Air Force veteran like many commercial pilots, looked at the bold “Impeach Bush and Cheney” emblazoned across my chest, smiled and said, “I like your shirt.” Some 20 minutes later when the flight attendant came through serving drinks and I asked for a bottle of red wine, she handed me a bottle and then waved away my proffered five dollars. “With that shirt, you don’t have to pay,” she said to me. The Texas and Georgia passengers sitting around me laughed appreciatively.

The mood in America is shifting rapidly, and President Bush has gone from hero to goat. Except in the eyes of a few Funny Morons®

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

I just addressed a post to Buy Danish that was supposed to be Dusty…. but is there really any difference?

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Austin–I just spent the weekend in this state capital, talkin’ impeachment at a meeting organized by the Texas Green Party, World Can’t Wait and Austin Impeach (www.austinimpeach.org), and was flying back home via Atlanta. As I was boarding my flight, the pilot, an Air Force veteran like many commercial pilots, looked at the bold “Impeach Bush and Cheney” emblazoned across my chest, smiled and said, “I like your shirt.” Some 20 minutes later when the flight attendant came through serving drinks and I asked for a bottle of red wine, she handed me a bottle and then waved away my proffered five dollars. “With that shirt, you don’t have to pay,” she said to me. The Texas and Georgia passengers sitting around me laughed appreciatively.

The mood in America is shifting rapidly, and President Bush has gone from hero to goat. Except in the eyes of a few Funny Morons®

By IN THE NEWS

July 11, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Today is the six month (also known as a Friedman Unit) mark from Bush’s Escalation speech.

By rushncap

July 11, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla — I used to do that all the time. The difference is minimal. I think Dusty is Muffin’s dumber alter ego.

I wonder how long it would take for the Bush library to start telling people the truth. Took Nixon’s a mere 20 years. With Bushbots running around, that one will take 200, I bet.

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Because of his cowboy foreign policy, Prez. Bush has accomplished increasing the number of terrorist recruits all over the world — more people worldwide hate America than ever before! That’s quite an accomplishment… he said he wanted to “win the hearts and minds” of Iraqis and look how they’ve responded!

Rah-Rah-Rah, go Team Bush, GO!

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Oh, and how much has Bush emboldened the terrorists worldwide due to his torture policies? Quite an accomplishment — they’ve never felt more emboldened than by what Bush has done to the world!

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Midori 1:25

Nice links. Only a fool would try and refute those records.

I can’t believe Dusty actually mentions the Senior Drug Plan (which benefits Big Pharma) as a Bush accomplishment. That’s like saying “Look at all the good John Dillinger did for the banking industry”.

My 75 year old mother now pays $125 more per month for the same medications than she did before Bush’s “wonderful” plan.

By rushncap

July 11, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Goldie — when Bush said he wanted to “win the hearts and minds” of Iraqis, he meant it. Much more literally than you could ever imagine. Sort of like Salome (and Herodias) wanted to win the “mind” of John the Baptist. Which she did. And Shrubby is doing well too… we have “won” over 100,000 hearts and minds by most counts over the past few years.

By Betty

July 11, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Oh goodness gracious Yes! And an emphatic one at that! There is a huge difference between Buy Danish and Dusty.

Buy Danish happens to be one of the best posts here. By far.

Its time for an end to all of the petty gamesmanship. Its time to celebrate the gem we have here. To create an equal for Buy Danish diminishes her.

I’m sorry Dusty, this post is not meant to be offensive to you, but I do ask you to denounce this.

There is a time for respect. In the end we are all Americans. Some greater than others, I’ll leave it at that.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

I watched Wolf and Larry last night.

Mike vs. Sanjay. Interesting

After each Wolfie, 5pm and 7pm, and after Larry there was a silly commercial.

Dancing doctors, nurses, various and sundry healthcare providers in a production number singing about (not kidding here) how they really need us to ask them all our questions and how glad they would be to answer them.

(Disclaimer - I have not had good experiences recently questioning medical professionals)

I thought it was interesting that AHRQ provided that little bit of entertainment.

By The Watcher

July 11, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Betty is LuckoDull back on his meds.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Betty - respect is a two way street. Buy Dhimmi never gives it so therefore doesn’t deserve it.

By getalife

July 11, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

“DC Madam Calls For Senator Vitter To Be Prosecuted”

Bwa.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Am I to infer that you agree with R.F.K., jr who states that people who disagree with him on issues are “traitors” who have committed “treason”?

I ask because you seem to be implying that because you disagree with Bush (but admire McCain who agrees with Bush, but I digress), or because you are not satisfied with Bush’s accomplishments, that he deserves to be “impeached”.

For the record I agree with Bush on the war, taxes, drilling in ANWR, refusing to sign KYOTO, and judicial appointees.

I vehemently disagree with him on immigration, I think Karen Hughes is a disaster, I disagree with his current policy with the Palestinians which permitted elections they did not deserve and resulted with a victory for Hamas, and I oppose any energy policy that includes the promotion of corn-based Ethanol as an alternative fuel.

Is that too “rosy” for you?

LHU,

How many American citizens have to die as you empower AQ and (among other dangerous tactics) willingly hand them their longed for Caliphate and base of operations in Iraq, from which they can run Jihadi terror camps to launch more attacks on us here at home - or elsewhere?

How many Iranians do you believe can conduct a proxy war against us unhindered?

How many provinces, like Anbar, have to be won before you admit that the surge is working and Iraqis are turning against AQ?

By Paul

July 11, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Good afternoon. A while back we had a brief discussion regarding political third parties.

I saw Sam Waterston (Deputy DA on Law and Order) in an interview discussing politics. He wasn’t stumping for Fred Thompson - he was discussing the Unity08 Party. Said how he’s watched, over the course of his life, both parties move to extreme ends of the spectrum, get co-opted by big-money donors, special interests and single-issue partisans, so the 40 percent of the electorate who call themselves “centrists” are shut out.

So he’s part of an Internet-based organization. He said how they’ll have an Internet convention and people who sign up will nominate their own candidate. After what happened with John Dean and Internet support fueling his candidacy, Obama’s resounding success with his Internet-based fund raising, this could get interesting. Seems like a good way, if not to bypass, at least a way to counter the influence of those who have so polarized the political process.

It’s at unity08 dot org

By mm

July 11, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

If you are so pro-democracy why do you say the Palestinians do not deserve to hold elections? Aren’t elections at the root of a democracy?

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Paul,

In all due respect, what is and what is not a “special interest”?

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Nope. I find that quote questionable though.

Nope. Not implying that at all.

How proud you must be!

Good for you.

Yep.

By JNH

July 11, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

By Anti-CON® July 11, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this Don’t ask, don’t tell

Priceless. Every day is drama (or comedy). Our fearless leader (Bush) continues to express more confidence than Julie Andrews in Sound of Music. He (Bush) “Still has faith in the AG” states a spokesman in response to a call for investigation into a firing of US attorneys. Taylor, a former political advisor states she will refuse to answer most questions posed by federal investigators (oh yeah, unless-I read that). She’s ‘confident’ Bush’s instructions are correct (scared maybe)??? Don’t forget Bush’s ‘confidence’ in Scooter Libby. Now he (Bush) is confident Scootie’s sentence was excessive. Then we have Hurricane Katrina, “Brownie you’re doing a heckava job!” What confidence!!! And those WMD’s!!!!!!!!!!!!! What confidence! Where are they?? I must say “I have confidence in me!” I will NOT vote Republican in 2008! See ya!!!

By Betty

July 11, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Let me tell you something Anti Con, Buy Danish is big enough around here that she is allowed access to the carpool lane, she doesn’t always have to go with the flow, not everyone drives on a two-way street you know! Whether its fair or not carpoolers have special rights. R-E-S-P-E-C-T THAT!

Its not a two-way street its an expressway to the truth, anyway. Certainly Buy Danish has the right to drive on a one-way street if she wants. I’m very sorry everyone has had to see my anger but it just upsets me.

Back to the real ME! Buy Danish has a way with words, they can knock you in the heart they can jab you in the stomach. Warning: No U-Turns. Un-freaken-beleivable? You betcha!

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

M&Ms,

Terrorists, particularly Islamists, do not respect Democracy, so why should they be permitted to participate in, and benefit from, the “Democratic process”?

Groups like Hamas need to be defeated, not empowered at the voting booth.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

It simply boggles the mind that these Funny Morons® don’t see what Bush has done to deserve impeachment.

They are like ostriches with their heads in a hole. Not necessarily a hole in the ground.

By DUH!

July 11, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>

I’ll take this one BD.

Perhaps if there was any such country as Palestine an election would make sense. Do you support Democratic elections for the Crips?

By Paul

July 11, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Hello! You’ve been having quite the time of it today, haven’t you?

As I currently define it, it’s an entity or grouping, either business or those with a common philosophy, who organize, lobby, and donate lots and lots of money to candidates to influence legislation and advance their interests.

As opposed to single-issue folks, who give us the litmus test of judging a candidate upon one (or possible a few) topics, such as the war in Iraq, abortion (either one of the sides of the issue), global warming, special racial issues, etc.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

BD…it was a simple question.

The fact that you cannot provide an answer to a simple question should cause you to stop and think…why?

I’ll give you another chance since you dodged (like Dusty…):

How many US soldiers would need to die in Iraq before you would begin to support bringing them home?

By Impeach this!

July 11, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Maybe one of you moonbats would like to write up what you would claim in an article of impeachment and provide supporting evidence for why it’s a crime.

Your own hysteria isn’t an impeachable offense and neither is Bush Derangement Syndrome.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Some are still grappling with the concept of broad participation in a certain political process, which by its very nature seeks accommodation, compromise and consideration of minorities and individuals, as contrasted with an ideological (not political) movement which will use any means necessary to impose their absolutist political/religious/social system.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Betty - time for your meds dear.

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Every time Bush says Americans who disagree with his war policies are “appeasing the terrorists”, how much of an idiot does he show himself to be? Can there even be a bigger idiot in the White House than Bush has been? No one is allowed to disagree with his policies without being called a “terrorist appeaser”?

How very sad, and very un-American. This is what Bush has brought on America, and it will take the Dems many years to correct all the damage he’s done…

And the insults he keeps slinging at over 70% of America. How reprehensible!

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Gozilla,

I deduce that you are unfamiliar with the insane comments made by the insane nephew of the insane Senator from Massachusetts.

Let there be no “doubt”:

Now you’ve heard today a lot of people say that there are many little things that you all can do today to avert climate change on your own. But I will tell you this, it is more important than buying compact flourescent light bulbs or than buying a fuel efficient automobile. The most important thing you can do is to get involved in the political process and get rid of all of these rotten politicians that we have in Washington D.C. —Who are nothing more than corporate toadies for companies like Exxon and Southern Company, these villainous companies that consistently put their private financial interest ahead of American interest and ahead of the interest of all of humanity.——————> This is treason and we need to start treating them now as traitors.<———————

And look how nice I was to link to a Left wing blog who approves of this liberal facism!

By Albert

July 11, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

The amount of votes for the Luckovich cartoon are still not showing up on the website.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

DUH,

Thank you, I agree with your analogy.

There is no country called “Palestine” and I do not support the Crips….or the Bloods.

There is a country called Israel and these thugs refuse to recognize it.

Screw em.

By Lookie here!

July 11, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Now we know what Pelosovich was up to in Syria.

Iraqi security forces have seized 200 explosive belts in a truck that crossed into Iraq from Syria on Wednesday, Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf said.

Goldielocks,

Do you approve of Robert Kennedy Jr. saying anyone that disagrees with him should be tried for treason?

By Paul

July 11, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us

I’ve seen that question before. Seems to me it’s part of a current fad: foreign (read: military intervention) policy by casualty count. Look at one of the arguments invoked in support of the Kosovo intervention: how many US soldiers were killed? Or to justify another war (as some candidates are advocating) because the projected casualties will be “low.” I’d kinda hate to have a family member be one of the acceptable losses in a conflict I thought was not in America’s vital interest. It also leads to the problem of “okay, we’ve hit N casualties, time to go.” Or, getting into something and getting blindsided by the “known unknowns.”

Of course, that has absolutely nothing to do with taking action even if the casualties will be horrendous, or of recognizing a course is not in America’s interest (or even if it is, not a course we can dictate) and ceasing operations, regardless of the casualties that have occurred.

Did you notice that last paragraph was an example of “preemption” - taking action to avoid the nearly inevitable, problematic, largely irrelevant (in the current context) comparison to Iraq? Preemption does have its place -

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

“Am I to infer that you agree with R.F.K., jr who states that people who disagree with him on issues are “traitors” who have committed “treason”?” -Buy Dhimmi

“…Who are nothing more than corporate toadies for companies like Exxon and Southern Company, these villainous companies that consistently put their private financial interest ahead of American interest and ahead of the interest of all of humanity. This is treason and we need to start treating them now as traitors.” -R.F.K. Jr.

The way I read it he is calling the villainous companies treasonous traitors for putting their private financial interest ahead of American interest. Not for disagreeing with him.

Can’t you Funny Morons® get ANYTHING right?

By GaPeach

July 11, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Mike, how about a cartoon featuring bin Laden sitting in a cave with a “Mission Accomplished” banner over it?

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Kerist, I guess I have to deal with that dullard, LHU.

Lord Help U,

How many casualties would have been permissible during the Civil War or WWII if we knew their numbers in advance before we committed our men to fight?

The fact is that the number of casualties suffered in Iraq is minuscule in comparison to those conflicts and others of equal importance, and retreat and surrender is simply not an option.

It’s only the future of Western Civilization that’s at stake here.

By IN THE NEWS

July 11, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

BUSH

CHENEY

By GaPeach

July 11, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Mike, how about a cartoon featuring bin Laden sitting in a cave with a “Mission Accomplished” banner over it?

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Looks like Palestine was a country until the early part of the 20th century:

1882-1903. First wave of Zionists (25000 strong) enters Palestine as illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe.

Who exactly should we be saying “screw ‘em” to, you uneducated trolls?

By Paul

July 11, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish 2:35

That would be funny if Jr. weren’t so zealously serious. Is he so far removed from the source of the funds that pays so many of his daily bills that he has no clue as to the types of investments held by the various Kennedy trusts?

By mm

July 11, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Ah wingnuts. It’s ok to hold an election as long as you elect the person you want in power. Bush wanted an election. So the Palestinians didn’t elect the right party. Now Bush considers the election null and void. More hypocrisy. I didn’t like the outcome either, but an election is an election.

And comparing the Crips? Puhleeeze.

By Porky

July 11, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Check out the Senators that won’t vote to reform earmark spending

For those of you in Rio Linda the low numbers are the porkers.

By Cindy

July 11, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Paul, In your second paragraph at 2:26 you are virtually saying the same as your third paragraph. Oh, granted, you start out with “single-issue”, but you progress into a group of ideas that create “a common philosophy”.

You are trying to justify the right and condemn the left for the exact same thing. What a typical troll.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Gawd you moonbats are dumb.

Anti-Con,

It is a matter of opinion as to whether the “financial interests” of “corporate toadies” have contributed to a matter of opinion known as “global warming”.

Ergo, if you disagree with Junior’s opinions then in his opinion you are a “treasonous traitor” and treason is a high crime.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Anti Con

Great response.

I got your back too!

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Anti-CON, I understand what RFK, Jr. was saying about the “corporate toadies” and we certainly have to deal with them almost daily here on this blog! Many of these trolls exist solely to promote corporate interests over American interests! Sounds a lot like treason, doesn’t it?

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

BUY DHIMMI YOU F@CKING MORON!

NOT EVEN ONE SOLDIER’S DEATH IS MINISCULE!

I love how Funny Morons® minimize the sacrifice our troops make.

Support the troops indeed!

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

{{It’s only the future of Western Civilization that’s at stake here.}}

Another idiot statement!

The future of western civiliation is in IRAQ? Oh, puh-leeze!

Crawl back in your hole, why dontcha?

By Paul

July 11, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Cindy 2:50

And your post began so well -

Paragraph two was about special interests (think philosophical or business entities), paragraph three about single-issue organizations (think average folks bound together by a single issue).

Regarding your next to last sentence, I tried to give enough examples of “single issues” to avoid the shoot first and verify later reaction you had. If you’re thinking special interests are only on the “Right” well - that seems pretty ideological to me.

You may want to check to generally accepted definition of “troll” as applied to the Web. The people to whom I addressed the posts didn’t seem to have difficulty with them. Then again, when people conduct discussions with namecalling, I suppose accurate definitions aren’t all that important -

By Article of Impeachment

July 11, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

The President, the Vice-President and other cabinet members(with tacit approval of the President), in attempting to gain support for a war against Iraq, made statements that they knew, or should have known were false, to wit: “Saddam Hussien has reconstituted his nuclear program” “Saddam Hussien has attempted to acquire large amounts of uranium from Niger.” “Mohammed Atta met with an Iraqi Intelligence Officer in Prague shortly before the 9/11 attack.”

All of these statements were either knowingly false, made with reckless disregard of the truth, or made with indiffernce to the truth. None of these statements were made in good faith. All of these statements were made despite the fact that other avaliable intelligence either contradicted these statements in part and/or disputed them in whole. All of these statements were made with the intention of gaining public support, and thus congressional approval, for war with Iraq. Such statements, with such purposes, reflect a level of insincerity, fraud, deciet and/or a level of incompetence in performing their respective duties that they amount, in their culmative effect, to wit: 500 Billion Dollars, 3,600 dead soldiers, over 25,000 wounded soldiers, among other things, to an ongoing criminal enterprise. In short, whether these statements to the American people were made because of incompetence or malice, due to the reasons they were made and the effects that they have had, the President and the Vice-President are unfit to serve in their current positions and their further service will lead only to more and more American deaths due to their deceit, fraud or incompetence. The American People deserve, and the Constition implicilty requires, a President and a Vice-President who either tell the truth about such important matters, or who are at the very least competent enough to know what the truth is.

How’s that???

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con,

It goes without saying that every soldier’s death is to be mourned and I find no joy in going to war.

Is it really necessary to preface everything by stating the obvious to you dim witted DHIMMIS?

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Bush’s first Surgeon General says politics trumped science at every turn. “The job of surgeon general is to be the doctor of the nation, not the doctor of a political party”

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla 2:51

Thanks!

Goldie 2:53

It most certainly does!

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con,

What the hell was that moonbat Jocelyn Elders if not a “doctor to a political party”? It takes a village dontcha know.

Woops! I broke the moonbat rule about going back in history and mentioning you know who’s administration.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

{{{None of these statements were made in good faith}}}

FALSE.

That’s the end of this impeachment fantasy.

Not to mention the fact that according to the silly “articles” listed above, most of the Dems in congress would have to be impeached along with the Bush administration.

There go Hillary’s White House dreams!

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

What did Jocelyn Elders do that was so horrible? OH MY GOD! She advocated the use of condoms! How partisan of her.

I suppose abstinence is the ONLY method you Funny Morons® can wrap your little minds around.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

BD,

Good heavens!!! - ‘It’s only the future of Western Civilization that’s at stake here.’

NOW, I FINALLY know why you are so zealously defending the Bush Administration!

You actually BOUGHT that line of BUNK?!?!?!?

Trust me, sweety…the future of Western Civilization is not going to be jeopardized by withdrawing our troops from Iraq.

Man, you cons are gullible…

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

July 11, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

-=-

For those of you concerned about the earth —

I just have one word —- Plastics —

err wait that was the Graduate -

Permafrost!

This hasn’t melted in several 100-thousands of years….

Of course BD will continue to ignore the problem with her head in the hole.

Cheers

By Cindy

July 11, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Paul, Perhaps I misunderstood. In the third paragraph should you have included Christian idealology, homophobia, islamic paranoia and corporate rape? I understood that these were the types of things you included in the first paragraph.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

A followup to the financial trust issue - you may be interested in this article:

Link: [Congressmen and Senators: Regular Folks Just Like Us - Except They’re Really, Really Rich]*(http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/6/14/214308.shtml)

The standout in the article was Sen Byrd. All those years on Appropriations, yet he didn’t have his wife form a woman-owned minority construction business or do any of the myriad things so many Congressmen do to get rich (except those who are evil businesspersons, ‘cause they’re all Republicans, right?). My respect for him just went up a notch.

If you haven’t had the opportunity, drive through the state sometime. It’s beautiful - great highways. Sen Bryd did them well. Without him, there wouldn’t be much money flowing into the state from any source -

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Why was Ms. Elders, as you put it, “doctor to a political party”?

I mean she had the approval of the AMA, the previous Surgeaon General and won confirmation 61 to 34.

It’s the whole masturbation is safer for kids than sex right? That probably really freaked you out.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Gawd! I haven’t had a belly laugh like this for too long.

‘It’s only the future of Western Civilization that’s at stake here.’

BD, if you REALLY believe that bunk…aren’t you a little perturbed at how incompetently the war is being managed?

I mean that would be worth millions of lives!

AAHHHHH! Run for the hills!!!!

SHARIA Law is coming!! They’ll make us convert and we’ll all go to Hell!!!!

Western Civilization is hanging in the balance, MAN!!!

By Paul

July 11, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Cindy

Well, the second paragraph was intended for the likes of agricultural conglomerates pushing taxpayer-funded ethanol so they’ll get more for corn. Or American car manufactures donating to Michigan Congressman so auto mileage increases will get stalled. Several of the examples you cite fall into (in my mind, anyhow) either special interests or the single-issue crowd: anything dealing with homosexuality (both pro and con)(both groups), Christian ideology as applied to social causes (both groups); Left/Liberal/Extreme ideology applied to social causes (mostly special interest); corporate rape (I’m not sure if you mean the rapist (corporations? Congress?) or the victim (corporations or the American taxpayers, depending on your point of view); I’m sure there are some who are Islamic paranoids, which I’ll distinguish from those (including some Muslims) who distinguish between “Islamic paranoids” and “those who recognize Islamic jihadists constitute a danger.”

Buy Danish

Let’s try that link again: Congressmen and Senators: Regular Folks Just Like Us - Except They’re Really, Really Rich

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Lord Help U,

Trust a clueless dolt like you who knows zilch about history and zilch about current events???????????

NFW.

BTW, Have you ever read any of Bin Laden’s fatwas (just to pick one obvious example of someone who intends to destroy our civilization)?

Why do you Moonbats want us to kill him if he isn’t even a threat in the first place?

You want us to leave his army intact in Iraq. What do you think they plan to do if we take your advice and surrender?

Think. Think. Think.

By Article of Impeachment

July 11, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

The Article, drafted just off the top of my head, doesn’t say that they didn’t believe it. It says that even if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt that they believe the lies they were telling, they are too incompetent to be in their current positions. As far as the Dems who voted for the war, as well as the people like you who were for it, you are all also incompetent. But you aren’t the president. Your defense is weak. Address the issue. Whether they lied or are too incompetent to know the truth shouldn’t they be removed. I mean if you were president and you wanted to go to war with Russia because they are conspiring with the Intergalatic alien forces against us, I really don’t care that you believe it. You ought to be removed for being an idiot, a really really dangerous idiot. That is what these guys are…or they are malicious killers. Either way, they gotta go.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Would you considering rephrasing to “over the course of some decades, Western civilization could become seriously compromised by a reinvigorated Islamic civilization, particularly if controlled by radical Islamic ideology?”

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

BD,

Man, you are KILLIN’ me!

Laughing my little rear end off at you and your delusion about the end of Western Civilization does not mean Bin Laden is not a threat.

Sad…Try another strawman…

Holy Allah!! I gotta read the Koran…I don’t wanna look like an infidel when Osama and the Islamists take over Western Civilization!!!

Anybody gotta Burka for Mrs. LHU? (it’ll be shame to hide that fine derrierre…)

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

“Have you ever read any of Bin Laden’s fatwas (just to pick one obvious example of someone who intends to destroy our civilization)?” -Buy Dhimmi

So why aren’t you upset with Bush for taking his eye off the ball and invading Iraq? Bin Laden would have been toast by now. THEN he could have lied us into Iraq.

“Why do you Moonbats want us to kill him if he isn’t even a threat in the first place?” -Buy Dhimmi

Who said he wasn’t a threat? He masterminded 9/11. THAT’S WHY HE SHOULD BE DEAD. He isn’t dead because of your boy Bush’s hard on for Saddam.

“You want us to leave his army intact in Iraq. What do you think they plan to do if we take your advice and surrender?” -Buy Dhimmi

His “army” in Iraq is a ragtag bunch trying to gain a foothold. The Sunni and the Shia won’t allow it any more than Saddam did. Our troops are in the way of a civil war among Iraqis. That is why they are dying and that is why we must leave.

By Anti-CON®

July 11, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

I’d love to stick around but I have to go to the pool and get in 18 holes before I go bowling.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Jocelyn Elders was a politically correct joke peddling the politically correct views of Hillary, err, Bill’s domestic policy.

I believe it is inappropriate for the Surgeon General to advocate publicly what should be private behavior.

It is the role of PARENTS (and IF THEY WISH, of their children’s private physicians) to discuss these things with their children, and should not be under the purview of Nanny State Elders.

And thanks to the attitudes of people like her, crotch grabbing and other mastubatory acts are now de rigeur at venues like MTV and Superbowl concerts.

What a great legacy!

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

STOP it BD!!! UNCLE!!!! PLEASE…NO MORE!!!

‘thanks to the attitudes of people like her, crotch grabbing and other mastubatory acts are now de rigeur at venues like MTV and Superbowl concerts.’

HEY…while you’re at it, can we blame Jocelyn Elders for Janet Jackson’s ‘wardrobe malfunction?’

How ‘bout Paris Hilton’s DUI?

Jocelyn Elders…you stand accused of contributing to the downfall of Western Civilization!!! How do you plead?

I gotta go…you’re killin’ me (I miss the Kimmer…)

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It does freak you out.

That’s pretty funny.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

Anti-Con,

Al Qaeda is beheading children, and serving them to their parents for dinner as part of their depraved campaign to WIN THEIR CALIPHATE IN IRAQ just as the Taliban want their 5th century ideology enforced in Afghanistan, and the Jangaweed kill and rape in Darfur, and “doctors” blow up Londoners, or Chechnyans massacre children in Beslan - to name just a few events from around the world.

That in itself is the the very opposite of Western Civilization, and I don’t care how “rag tag” their armies are.

Goldie and LHU,

I don’t think that Theo Van Gogh’s family or Aayan Hirsi Ali think you are as hilarious as you seem to think you are.

Yuk Yuk Yuk.

Yuch.

By Cindy

July 11, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You put left/liberal/extreme as special interest. Where do you put right/conservatism/neoconservative extreme?

I appreciate the fact you try to sound reasonable, but you continue to delicately plug neocon propaganda and cut the leftists which makes me think you are paid to be here because the others just can’t cut it.

By Dubya

July 11, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Marvelous spech today by Lindsay graham. A must - see for those who enjoy their ignorance raw. Of the “good” progress being made in Iraq. Of the troops who “eagerly” volunteer for repeated tours because they enjoy that “positive” progress. And when the slaughter ultimately comes to pass it will be strictly due to those who opposed the war. The “dramatic new” positive results of “the surge.” Repeated references to “God” blessing those who support the war. And, of course, repeated references to the Bushies’ new trick of blaming the whole thing on IRAN. Focus on our new enemy, Iran, thereby minimalizing the focus on the Iraq nightmare. It’s all the fault of Iran and its “new” policies. (As tho anything in that world has changed recently). “God. God. God.” You’ll love it. Gotta hand it to the Republiscum: they’re actually proud of the fact that they don’t know today what they didn’t know in the past.

Praise the Lord!

By Can't Resist

July 11, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

“”I believe it is inappropriate for the Surgeon General to advocate publicly what should be private behavior. “”

Can we infer that you DO masturbate? Privately?

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

What “freaks me out” is when behavior that belongs in the bedroom or the privacy of one’s home is brought to the public square, and when parental rights are usurped by the government.

Contrary to the claims of Moonbats, we do NOT want to be privy to your bedroom activities.

Keep it private. Please! You’ve already “shared” more than we want to know about you and Mr. G in the past.

Thanks in advance!

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It ALL really freaks you out.

That’s sad.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Can’t Resist being a wanker,

You can’t infer anything except that there’s a difference between a parent’s role and the government’s role, and the impropriety of making public what should be private.

But who knows, maybe public crotch grabbing is an activity you approve of.

Jackass.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Okay, you lost me there. I was citing examples of issues and where I see them fall on the political spectrum. I don’t recall citing Left/Liberal as a special interest. I don’t think it even fits with the definition of special interest I gave.

Special interests and single-issue voters exist at both ends of the spectrum. Every so often I read here what I interpret is the assertion that special interests and single-issue voters are the sole province of conservative/right wingers/neocons/Republicans (pick your label). I’m saying both parties and both sides have them. It’s the “you’re anti-abortion so you’re a single-interest radical, but if I want to reject every Supreme Court nominee because he doesn’t pass my standards for women’s/abortion rights then I’m just a reasonable person looking out for the welfare of America.” Or words to that effect.

You may want to read my first post to rushncap - the one about unity08 and Waterston’s comments. I do not fault much of what he said or what he’s trying to do. Or check the earlier reference to earmarks. Both parties by and large are comprised of pork pushers (even Ron Paul, but not the Congressman from Arizona - Flake).

I don’t mean this to sound reasonable. I think much of the current political structure and stagnation in this country is pretty unreasonable and I fault activists in both Parties, monied interests and … oh, just read Obama’s first book. He lays it out pretty well. Not that he’ll be able to do anything about it -

By @@

July 11, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

I have a question, totally off-topic but somewhat on topic for Buy Danish’s 3:53 and how morals and ethics can impact our kids. No jokes please, it wouldn’t be appropriate.

Prime Time last night was on the subject of sperm donors, #’s not names applied to the donors/tubes. Most of the women were looking for designer babies. In the early stages of the new endeavor, the focus was on good looks. One male model was purported to have fathered well above 60 children, most likely more.

Later, the focus was on intelligence and looks. They are guessing that there are over a million children who are the product of this procedure. Money was cited as the motivation for men to donate. Some now have regrets, but many maintain their anonymity. It was said that some European countries have changed the laws whereby fathers’ identity must be divulged. As a result, donations are down considerably.

It all seems rather sordid to me and leaves kids very vulnerable both psychologically and physically.

Now, if unbeknownst to them, two half siblings were to meet, have sex with or without the benefit of marriage that resulted in the birth of an offspring? Would that baby suffer abnormalities?

Some women actually purchase the entire vile, take what they need from it and then sell the leftovers to someone else.

Leftover babies? Aren’t they all?

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

I seem to remember you telling us your sex life was just fine a time or two, but I may be wrong.

I didn’t think you had shared too much, I just thought you didn’t know any better.

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Dubya @ 4:08— so I guess “good progress” in Iraq is measured by Sens. Graham or McCain walking through a market in Baghdad with only 50 armed soldiers and Marines surrounding them for protection, instead of the usual 100???

The Repugs can’t seem to quit insulting the American public with their “progress reports” from Iraq.

By @@

July 11, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Oh crap! No jokes please…

Change ^^^ that to read #’s assigned to donations.

Sorry, that was unintended.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

It is apparent that normal behavior, where there is a separation between private and public acts, and parental and governmental roles, “freaks you out”.

In Orwellian fashion you would twist the normal into the abnormal and vice versa.

Are you an exhibitionist perhaps? Why not Google “Nudist colony” and plan your next vacation! Have a great time, just don’t tell us all about it.

We’ll just call it a variation of “Don’t ask, don’t tell”.

By Goldie

July 11, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

{{What “freaks me out” is when behavior that belongs in the bedroom or the privacy of one’s home is brought to the public square, }}

It must really freak you out about all of the stupid protesters who show up at family planning clinics, shouting their nonsense at women who are going inside the clinic to get examinations or birth control devices… they’re automatically accused of being “baby killers” simply for going to the clinic. That must really p!ss you off when they keep doing that in the public square, yes?

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

@@,

Glad to see that you have great taste in movies. “Big Lebowski” is definitely a classic!

Buy Danish,

You disapprove of talking about masturbatory acts in public, but then you call Can’t Resist a “wanker” at 4:20…what gives? Anyways, I think that you would rather your kid (hypothetically, not personal) spank it in his bedroom instead of risking having sex with a classmate and risk knocking her up…over even worse—risk being thrown in jail like Genarlow Wilson.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Heck, it freaks you out kind of UNATURALLY.

Whew.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

{{{By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

I seem to remember you telling us your sex life was just fine a time or two, but I may be wrong.}}}

Mrs. Godawful,

Our posts crossed. Consider this a response to that^^^^:

I don’t believe I have ever told you a single thing about my sex life, but you are free to check the archives.

I find it rather hilarious that you think that Jocelyn Elder’s messages were meant for adults such as yourself, and not directed at children.

I can only conclude that YOU thank her for your own, err, “awakening” and are oh so very grateful. How dull your life would have been if not for that Surgeon General’s wisdom!

{{{I didn’t think you had shared too much ————->I just thought you didn’t know any better.<—————}}}

I don’t have a freaking clue what that is supposed to mean, but I do recall that you are a self-proclaimed expert on the female orgasm - a claim to fame which I would put in the “sharing too much” category.

GFY!

By Dusty

July 11, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla or is it Mr. Godzilla (is there any difference?),

Godzilla was a makeup movie monster supposedly from prehistoric times. Did you feel some similarity to take that as an ID? That is why I mentioned prehistoric.

And what were Clinton’s “accomplishments”? You forgot to mention them. Skip the main one. We already know that. Yes, we can talk about Clinton all we want to.

Anti-Con 1:38,

You went to a Green Party meeting just to talk “impeachment”?? Really?? Well, I think there is a reunion of the Mickey Mouse Club soon. Don’t miss that. They might want to impeach Minnie Mouse or something.

What a waste of time. Did you nominate Osama for president while you were at the Green Meeting? Probably.

I gather you take after your mother. Did you know you do NOT have to enroll in the Senior Drug Plan? It is optional. Tell your mother.

rushncap,

You are nobody’s alter ego. Just your own super sized ego. Is there plenty of room in the lab to get around?

Betty,

You are such a big phony liberal. That little bit of cuteness has been used so many time now it falls flat.

Buy Danish,

When Islamic fanatics are blowing up the western world with every kind of bomb including atomic, liberals will still be saying it is all a delusion. Poor old harpies! They can’t even see two days in the future much less beyond. And the sad part, they elect Congressional members just like them.

As Paul said “Western civilization could become seriously compromised..”. You can say that again.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Ok, I think your last post cleared things up for me. I was confused with your 3:39 post:

“Left/Liberal/Extreme ideology applied to social causes (mostly special interest);”

and the fact that you didn’t bother to insert any rightist ideas.

Government is about making laws for the country. Many local politicians start out because they want something enacted that is personal to them. It might have worked better when only white males could vote, own property, etc., but it seems there are too many different ideas, groups and philosophies now for politicians to be self serving, but I still think they follow the $ rather than the country. It always makes me giggle when I hear somebody negatively talking about a politician putting their finger in the air or watching polls to see how the citizens feel about certain topics. Actually, in most cases it is their job to do the citizen’s bidding.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

@@,

I saw that episode about the sperm donor who was just working his way through med school and earning $50 a pop (so to speak).

I have a real problem with the ethics of fathering multiple children and think their should be strict limits on these “donations”.

I am very conservative when it comes to purchasing children as if there were no more ethical considerations at stake than a trip to the supermarket for dinner.

stevie,

Must I define “wanker” for you? It has a literal and a figurative meaning, and in “Can’t Resist“‘s case, I was using it figuratively.

I think it’s pathetic that you imply that committing rape or impregnating girls is the fate of those who have not been “enlightened” by government hacks like Jocelyn Elders.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 11, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

I am pretty darn sure that after a bunch of us were ganging up on you on a subject that had sex in it somewhere -you snarkily stated that your sex life was just fine.

I maybe wrong. But I really don’t care enough to search the archives.

I find it hilarious myself that you think you have any idea what I think! Besides,Ms. Elders message wherever you think it was directed was correct.

Masturbation is safer than sex.

As for my own awakening, (you might want to close your eyes, cuz I’m going to share) it didn’t happen until my early thirties. I am a survivor of repeated childhood molestation. When your first experience is at age 3, it sort of negatively affects your sexuality. A wonderful therapist taught me what most kids learn early, and I found “awakening”. (What a quaint term!)

What I wouldn’t give to be an expert on female orgasm! I know you don’t have a clue. That’s the point.

Oh, and thanks for the “Mrs. Godawful” and the GFY, it means you got nothing left in your quiver of arrows…..

I guess my mission is accomplished.

Now, should I cook the prawns alone or let them simmer in the alfredo till done!

By Paul

July 11, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

It’s been said imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Or possibly it’s just that some can’t formulate a cogent statement, let alone argument, on their own.

But being understanding, assuming it was written by someone responding to my 3:39 who, while typing in “name” was thinking “responding to” - (Cindy, is that you?)

[[and the fact that you didn’t bother to insert any rightist ideas.]]

I thought at 2:26 where I cited the war in Iraq, abortion and special racial issues I was referring to right-wing issues. I guess I should have included “school prayer” - that’s a good one. But I’m pleased you see my point about Left-wing special interest groups and single-issue litmus tests.

I pretty much discounted the last paragraph when I got to the “white males” part - seems like a rather tired red herring.

Doing citizens’ bidding is why so many laws passed by Congress and signed into law have been found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Alexander Hamilton had some pretty provocative ideas on the general… advisability?… of following the will of the masses.

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Despite the idiotic conviction, Genarlow Wilson did not rape anybody since it was CONSENSUAL sex between a 17 year old and a 15 year old.

Also, yes, there is less risk of impregnating a girl if you choose to shake hands with the mayor while watching porn, rather than actually having sex with a girl.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

LHU,

I missed your brilliant comment/SARC.

While Janet Jackson’s “wardrobe malfunction” got all the attention, it was the crotch grabbing of her ridiculous partner in slime that I found most appalling, and that behavior was imitated by the kiddies who were watching a football game that was meant to be suitable for children.

I guess nothing is too vulgar for common people with common tastes and no common sense.

By Dusty

July 11, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Good grief,

this blog begins to sound like a meeting of the Dirty Old Men’s Club. Some of you obviously think you are “hot stuff”. Can’t you find some dirtbag blog to talk about your sexual expertise? This blog is political.

Buy Danish is absolutely right about privacy and personal matters of sex. It seems that nobody taught most of you about decency. You simply do not know any better than to dump it all here. I hope you are not around children very often.

By JH

July 11, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Good cartoon Mr. Luckovich!

John McCain didn’t lose his cred when he sucked up to Falwell. He didn’t even lose it when he supported Bush’s crazy idea of a war.

He had already lost it when he didn’t stand up to Karl Rove and the GOP slime machine in South Carolina.

And then for him to merrily jump right back on the Bush bandwagon was for me, like many Americans I’m sure, simply nauseating. Even with my respect for him as a POW, I could not vote for someone who so meekly would allow those men to do that.

THAT is why he has never been a relevant candidate since.

In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the f* candidate.”

Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina was that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually black, that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict.”

“A smear campaign of the ugliest sort is now coursing through the contest for the presidency in 2000. Using the code word “temper,” a group of Senate Republicans, and at least some outriders of the George W. Bush campaign, are spreading the word that John McCain is unstable. The subtext, also suggested in this whispering campaign, is that he returned from 5 1/2 years as a POW in North Vietnam with a loose screw. And it is bruited about that he shouldn’t be entrusted with nuclear weapons.”

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Great story. I’m sorry what happened to you while you were younger. Great to see that you’re doing well.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

steve-o

Pardon the interjection - I understand a factor in Mr. Wilson’s conviction was a videotape of the situation? I haven’t seen it but it supposedly showed the young girl was drunk? Nearly falling-down drunk?

Legally, can a drunk minor (in Georgia) give “consent” to have sex? Or, legally again, a sober minor?

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

{{{By Dusty

July 11, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Good grief,

this blog begins to sound like a meeting of the Dirty Old Men’s Club. Some of you obviously think you are “hot stuff”. Can’t you find some dirtbag blog to talk about your sexual expertise? This blog is political.

Buy Danish is absolutely right about privacy and personal matters of sex. It seems that nobody taught most of you about decency. You simply do not know any better than to dump it all here. I hope you are not around children very often.}}}

Sex talk to conservatives is like bug repellant to mosquitoes…watch them squirm and flee!

Anyone care to talk about their preferred brand of condoms??? LMFAO!!!

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Yes she was drunk…as well as Wilson himself. It was an unfortunate case of kids being stupid. But the act was CONSENSUAL. I guarantee that over half the members of the GA Legislature have had drunken sex in their younger days.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

Sure BD, but you blamed Jocelyn Elders (and people like her) for that crotch grabbing episode. Sad…

Just a little advice so you don’t appear too kooky(er)…Perhaps you should blame the crotch grabber…

Now…Go grab your burka and Koran…the end of Western Civilization is near!!!!

By On the horns of a dilemma

July 11, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

How can someone below the age of consent have consensual sex? What part of AGE OF CONSENT don’t you understand?

By Melvin

July 11, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

You sure got that right, Dubya. It’s soooo obvious of late that the Repunk trickery now takes the new angle of constant propaganda aimed at Iran. Forget about the traitors in this country who brought us the Iraq insanity. Blame it on Iran and the stupid masses will, as always, believe it and mouth it.

For those many imbeciles out there and those who never served in the military, one of the first things taught in military bootcamp are the damned rules. In situations especially like those in Iraq you don’t engage in unnecessary and needless killing and slaughter. You are taught that and you know that! For those Marines and others who did indeed commit such atrocities, they need to be punished in accordance. Be a great military if everyone did whatever he felt like doing and pleased him at the moment. GI’s have responsibilities and need to live up to them. They are supposed to be Americans and Americans don’t act like that, right? Don’t give me this patriotic crap. Seen too much combat and reality and as a 5-year M.P. officer, escorted too many deserving punks to Ft.Leavenworth. You would-be American heroes need to grow up, shut up, and stop wasting space on the internet with your small-man frustrations.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

steve-o

I just breezed through an article - don’t remember the state - where the legislature just drastically altered the penalties for sex between minors. It’s a start - some of the provisions, such as they had to have been dating for a year or two (eternity to a teenager), no more than a four-year spread between ages (although 13-17 seems a bit much to me, maybe two years is more reasonable) and a few other provisions were enacted. I understand it was to address cases such as the one in Kentucky where the 17-year-old went to prison, got out, then married the young lady (who’d had a baby) - they’ve been married several years and —- he’s a registered sex offender!

The pendulum swings and pretty soon the law is where it should be (IMHO).

Are kids having unprotected sex? Just look at all the “babies having babies” out there. Or grandkids being raised by grandparents or great-grandparents. Talk about almost guaranteeing a life of poverty. It’s pretty sad.

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish’s outrage at crotch-grabbing is hilarious. It mirrors the same trivial outrage over Elvis’s pelvic thrusting when he performed live on TV back in the 50s.

I think that Dr. Elders failed because I grew up watching some of my favorite rappers grab their crotches while rapping on stage and I can truly say that I never grab my crotch out in public.

By steve-o

July 11, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

On the horns,

Genarlow Wilson wasn’t at the age of consent and neither was the girl. IT WAS TWO MINORS HAVING CONSENSUAL SEX!!

Paul,

I totally agree with you about the travesty of kids having unprotected sex. It is truly a recipe for disaster, which is why we shouldn’t be sheepish about talking about sex in general. Kids should learn patience and they definitely need to learn about contraceptives and safe sex. I know that we wish that our kids will practice abstinence until marriage, but I remember sneaking out of the house after midnight quite often to see my girlfriend when I was in high school, despite my good Christian upbringing….and I know that I’m not alone in that regard.

By getalife

July 11, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

“Bush Skips Questions As White House Press Room Unveiling”

Talk about cut and run.

Coward.

Loser.

Geez.

By @@

July 11, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish @ 5:00,

Thanks for responding. Nobody else seemed interested. I was about to file those one million plus kids into #13. I mean, what’s a couple more, right?

Anyway, I’m still left with the question of abnormalities in potential offspring. I’m checking that online now. I was really surprised that question wasn’t addressed on Prime Time or any other program that approaches the subject of sperm donation.

Oh btw, I’ve always heard that the people who like to “talk” about sex usually aren’t getting any.

I know you didn’t ask nor should you have, but I’m doing great. :-P

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Headlines for Fox News!

Crotch Grabbing has reached epidemic levels!! - Is this the result of Jocelyn Elders promotion of masturbation????

We’ll debate that tonight on Hannity and Colmes.

Also on H&C tonight…The future of Western Civilization is hanging in the balance!! - and it’s Bill Clinton’s fault!

By Duh stands for Democrat

July 11, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

The whole world is turning on Al Qaida:

{{{{{{{CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida’s deputy leader issued a video Wednesday calling for Pakistanis to wage a holy war against their government in retaliation for the attack by Pakistan’s army on the Red Mosque in Islamabad.}}}}}}}}

{{{{{{{Columns of tanks rolled nearby as Lebanese troops entered the northern edges of the refugee camp, breaking more than a week of relative calm in the fighting between the army and Fatah al-Islam, a militant group alleged to be linked to al Qaeda.}}}}}}}}}

{{{{{{{Iran: We Are Ready to Take on Al Qaeda}}}}}}}

{{{{{{{{A lieutenant colonel named Bruce Antonia told Odierno about preparing to attack the Buhritz neighborhood a few nights earlier when he was approached by local Sunni inusurgents—members, they said, of the 1920 Revolutionary Brigades—who were streaming out of the neighborhood. “They said they’d been fighting al-Qaeda but had run out of ammunition and asked us to supply them. We told them, ‘Show us where AQ is and we’ll fight them.’” The insurgents did and the neighborhood was cleared.}}}}}}}}}}

Except for the democrats!

{{{{{{{{Dems to confront Bush again on Iraq pullout Pelosi, Reid say House and Senate will vote in July — won’t wait for report on surge}}}}}}}

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

Right on cue you are “sharing” very private information with strangers. I’m very sorry for your terrible childhood experiences, however I don’t believe that this is the best forum for airing them.

It may explain your inappropriate compulsion to make the private public and your false analogy between privacy and prudishness.

It also may explain why you have so little faith in parents and so much faith in Big Government.

As for you “expertise” on female orgasms, you have forgotten that you once told shared some information with us which I won’t repeat. I asked you at the time how you came by this amazing “expertise”, but you never answered.

As I have no intention of discussing my sex life with you, you’ll have to find other sources for your “research”.

Stevie,

It doesn’t surprise me that you can’t differentiate between Elvis and crotch grabbing, or that you think a political blog is an appropriate place to discuss your exploits.

You seem to think that bragging about your sex life makes you come off as sexy to the rest of us, when it just makes you sound boorish and a bit desperate.

People who have seen the Genarlow Wilson video would disagree about how “consensual” it was.

gotta run!

By Ralph

July 11, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Big topic of the day here seems to be masturbation. Hey, I’m a big believer in masturbation, especially when you lack an alternative. Its been a major calmative for zillions forever. Except maybe rightwing born-agin Christians. Of course a lot of “stuff” is wasted along the way. Some of it even falls on the floor, the carpet, or somewhere in the deep woods. Witness BD, Dusty, @@, RW and others.

By On the horns of a dilemma

July 11, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

The age of consent in Georgia is SIXTEEN. She was FIFTEEN and he was SEVENTEEN. Can you figure the rest of this out for yourself or do I need to explain further?

Gawd you moonbats are idiots.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us

Possibly you could spare us the necessity of watching H&C and simply list for us the dates, places, deaths and injuries of Al Qaeda attacks against US territory or interests through the 1990s, the direct US response, the restructuring of our military forces and equipment to deal with the escalating threat, the statements of Islamic jihadists regarding their plan of action against the West, bin Laden’s declaration of war against the US and how the US government prepared our country?

Thanks - it’ll save me from listening to another shouting match.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

DUH…your articles are…’dull’

One of them doesn’t even support your rant and another is from Iran?

But…this is really all you have, isn’t it?

Sad…

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By Dusty

July 11, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Nobody is “running from sex” here. Conservatives just don’t like “dirt”. Liberals are making sex into something to be enjoyed like a bunch of animals in heat, anywhere, anytime, anybody, anyway.

Conservatives try for a higher standard of life and it is known as decent. The only excuse for promiscuity is ignorance or little concern for anybody else if “you get yours”. Permanent relationships are hard to follow after promiscuity.

I hope all of you get treatment for your STDs, your herpes and possibly AIDs. But 0h 0h oh —everybody’s got to have their fun, ‘specially drop dead losers.

I work in the field of medicine. Nobody thinks “having fun” is much fun when the positive test results come in.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Paul…Do your own homework.

However, I feel compelled to point out that the war in Iraq has been BOTH a disaster AND a huge distraction from deterring the terrorists. It has, in fact, made the situation worse.

You and the other cons still don’t get that point, so I’ll make it simple.

The war in Afghanistan was just, supported by a broad coalition of countries and by the vast majority of the American people.

Only after the debacle in Iraq began did the situation in Afghanistan start to deteriorate.

The war in Iraq is unjust and has been marked by severe incompetence for over 4 years. It was not and is not supported by any substantive coalition of nations and 6-7 out of 10 Americans want us out.

Got it. I expect competence, you apparently do not.

By What We Pre-Empted

July 11, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

It is important to recall that Saddam had thrown the U.N. weapons inspectors out of Iraq in 1998, and allowed them to return in 2002 only because of the credible threat of a U.S. attack. In addition, the sanctions regime was collapsing—Saddam had learned how to extract billions of dollars for weapons out of the humanitarian exceptions to those sanctions—and our European friends, and perhaps U.N. officials themselves, were complicit in this. Under these circumstances, Saddam could not have been “contained” or rendered harmless, and Iraq could not have been indefinitely subject to U.N. inspections. At some point, Saddam would have been able to throw out the inspectors again, with no further action by the U.N. It was clear that the U.N. itself would do nothing to enforce its own resolutions.// We also know from the reports of the weapons inspectors that Saddam and his scientists were working to develop nuclear weapons, work that certainly would have continued if Saddam had remained in place. Saddam had already demonstrated that he would use chemical weapons, and there is no reason in logic that he wouldn’t also restore his chemical weapons stocks once the inspectors had left. He had the largest army in the region, and had shown a determination to use it for expanding his control beyond Iraq. It’s not far-fetched, therefore, to consider what economists call a counterfactual—what things would look like today if the U.S. had not invaded Iraq.

By Drive-by Media

July 11, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

So that’s not drool dripping from Dusty’s mouth? Nobody cares what you do with your blow-up gerbils, Dusty. You horrid public facility.

You can redeem yourself, dusty. Define the mission of US troops in Iraq on July 11, 2007

By Paul

July 11, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us 6:14

I have done my homework, which is why I could dash off the response so quickly. I’d wondered if you’d ever researched the matter, or if you had, how you could so blithely discount the statements and actions of some very serious people.

I wasn’t referring to Iraq. At all. I believe I wrote of actions and attitudes that did and did not occur in the 1990s. I generally discount Iraq heavily in my view of Islamic jihadists. Concentrating on Afghanistan strikes me as equally myopic. Same for the “let’s invade Pakistan and get bin Laden!” crowd. There are a numerous theaters of conflict, on many levels, and viewing this war (again, NOT Iraq) solely though the lens of traditional military action is, in my view, a grave error.

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

Well Paul, why don’t you give us all a summary of your approach to dealing with the terrorist threat?

I WAS referring to Iraq since we have 160,000 troops there, are spending $10 Billion plus per month there, have been there for 4 years and, during those four years, things have gotten steadily worse.

I am not for only concentrating on Afghanistan at all. You are arrogant and mistaken to make that assumption.

Face it, Iraq is a distraction from the ‘War of Terror.’ Pointing out that fact does not equate to a ‘myopic’ concentration on Afghanistan.

But, please educate us to Paul’s approach to the ‘War on Terror.’

I’ll be holding my breath…

By Drive-by Media

July 11, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

There is no situation that can occur on the ground in Iraq that will allow us to leave.

We are stuck in Iraq. Accept it. Believe it. Hold it close to your bosom.

We aint nevah gonna git outta Iraq.

That’s why we’ve got a country to save and a world to convince.

By Buy Danish

July 11, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

I’m back.

Paul,

I did see that video and it was about as consensual as that video of the 4 year old girl who is rumored to have been given Ectasy, but Horns is right in that she was too young to “consent” in any case.

It was also a public sexcapade and not a private encounter - and what a pity that I am so narrow minded that I remain unconvinced how fantabulously erotic that is.

By Let's hope he means it

July 11, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

{{{I’ll be holding my breath By Lord Help Us}}}

Paul,

Just in case he means it please wait until morning to answer.

By New tapes

July 11, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

The Republican party is anathema.

Richard Nixon 1972

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

More success in the ‘War on Terror’:

U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded al-Qaida has rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since just before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks…’

Please send your accolades to the Bush Administration.

By Dusty

July 11, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

DriveByMedia,6:25

What’s your problem? Sounds like you ran out of gas a long time ago.

You are unredeemable. Constant repetition in speech patterns is a sign of cranial degeneration. My condolences, madam. Your prognosis is dire.

By Al Gorithm

July 11, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

This is truly a great day for the neocons here and other flower and tree haters everywhere! Lady Bird Johnson has died.

From all of us non-Republicans, rest in peace Mrs. Johnson.

By Paul

July 11, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us 6:37

I know you were referring to Iraq at 6:14. It struck me as entirely off point for what I wrote at 5:57 regarding the rise of Islamic jihadism. Reiterating it again at 6:37 doesn’t make it any more relevant to my 5:57.

I never said, or implied, you were “only” for concentrating on Afghanistan. My next sentence at 6:14 reference those who want to invade Pakistan. Both were given as examples of attitudes that seem to me pretty constricted.

Youu didn’t say where you were for concentrating. Where else is there? I can think of a few. Careful - you’ll get attacked as an imperialist (unless it’s Sudan - that’s okay imperialism) or here at home - then you’ll be a neocon fascist.

I think I’ve said several times on this forum Iraq can be viewed as a distraction from the war against militant Islam, so I have “faced it.”

You can breathe. The webmaster’s about to shut us down for the night. I could be snarky in response to your “educate us” request and say what you said at 6:14 “do your own homework.”

For now, I’ll simply refer you to “Real Security: The Democratic Plan to Protect America and Restore Our Leadership in the World.”

You can find it at the Democratic National web site.

Later we can discuss (or should I say “repeat” as I’ve said it before) specific economic, military, political, social and environmental actions we can take.

By Drive-by Media

July 11, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

The war on terror is a bumper sticker. It’s no worse than it was before 911. It’s handle-able. We can take whatever al queda can blow up.

I got this gut feeling about that. But then I’ve been brushing with chinese toothpaste too… so…..

Oh, you’ll wonder where your heartbeat went when you brush your teeth with Chinadent.

Fat fat and dye brainless can gum my jockstrap. It’s made in China.

bwa

bwa ha

By Paul

July 11, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish 6:42

Thanks. I figured there was a “rest of the story.”

I’m pretty sure as a legal matter minors don’t consent to sex (I believe the intent of the law was with adults). The age spread of these two, plus the inebriation, is pretty troubling. Not a lot of respect for young ladies that I can see. Or for themselves, for that matter.

By @@

July 11, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

I’m out in the internet when I stumble on this Iraqi blogger. A young dentist living in Iraq. He seems legitimate; sings noone’s praises, but says he simply wants to share the truth about Iraq today. He points out some mistakes made in the past, but his future, Iraq’s future starts TODAY.

((( I wish that they success or even achieve some changes , we haven’t seen any till now , and i don’t think we will soon.anyway I always hear people say that if the US forces leaves Iraq everything will be OK!!! I don’t know how does these people think?if the US forces leaves today , tomorrow I’ll be face to face with an Iranian soldier , I had a dispute with my friend about this today, I know most Americans wish that their sons and fathers would get back to their homes very soon , and I think that’s their right , but at the same what about the Iraqi people?haven’t the US government promised Iraqis a new , united , prospered , liberated , democratic and peaceful Iraq? at least now with the US troops in Iraq there is a higher authority above the corrupted Iraqi government , if they are gone what will stop these sectarian beasts from committing unlimited massacre?)))

An interesting and very civil exchange going on between an informed American poster and this young dentist.

By Drive-by Media

July 11, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

@@ and Buy Danish are the Barbie Trolls of this blog.

(and they’re morons.)

By Lord Help Us

July 11, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Good Paul…I am glad we can agree that the war in Iraq is a disaster and a distraction from the real terrorist threat.

Since you agree on this point, I hope you will join me in condemning the decision to invade and the severe incompetence that is now unfortunately coupled with that terrible decision.

I absolutely believe that our ability to deal with the actual terrorist threat (instead of the fictional threat that was trumped up by the Bush Admin in Iraq) is dependent upon ending that distraction.

Thereafter, our efforts should be extended to the safe havens we have allowed Pakistan to establish, hammering Saudi Arabia’s role in financing and enabling terrorist activity, etc. (this is just a couple of examples so don’t jump to conclusions…).

Be careful, though. Some of the cons here will start calling you names now…

By @@

July 11, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

Drive-by Media Moron:

Did your 7:06 post have a destination point?

Be sure and watch that guy after he drives around in circles and exits the vehicle.

All muscle, no brain injury ‘cause he’s got NO BRAINS just like you.

Thud…dud