Mike Luckovich

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

REMEMBER THIS:

By RW-(the original) June 22, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this Do you think Truth?man and Unfunny Moron are going to be embarrassed when they find out Dick Cheney is right about his Office’s place in our government or do you think they’ll just pretend they never mentioned it.

NOW SEE THIS:

With a vote looming in Congress on Thursday to defund the Office of the Vice President in the White House’s annual appropriation, a report at The Politico claims that the White House will no longer advance the argument that the Vice President’s office is not a part of the executive branch.

LIFE’S LITTLE LESSON:

DON’T IMMEDIATELY SWALLOW THE KOOL AID. SWISH IT AROUND IN YOUR MOUTH A LITTLE WHILE – YOU MAY HAVE TO SPIT IT OUT.

By candide

June 28, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this

Everyone agrees Ann Coulter will do anything to sell books and get noticed. But she is more indicative than that. She is an example, extreme to be sure, of what the GOP has been doing since 1932 — using the tactics of Joseph Goebbels to win elections and denegrate its opponents. The GOP acts like the Fascist party of America and Coulter is its Eva Braun.

By Mrs. Godzilla

June 28, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Hilton, Spears, Lohan, Coulter

Whatever!

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Cheney says, “My lawyers made me do it!”

Ann Coulter? Who cares. She’s a washed up old hag.

That cartoon is pretty funny, but it gives me the creepy sensation that what’s flying out of her mouth is vomit due to her demon posessed soul.

By George

June 28, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

I agree ML, who cares what Coulter says but I do like the visual of what is coming out of her mouth. Pretty accurate!

By @@

June 28, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Well that can’t be your leftists yawning ml. Everytime a conservative opens Ann’s mouth with a link here, it’s your leftists who fire off their rockets.

Coulter does have a way of “sparking” debate. So does:

Michael Moore (Stupid film director)

Sean Penn (Stupid/talented actor)

Susan Sarandon (Intelligent/talented actress)

Tim Robbins (Stupid/talented actor)

Isn’t Ann Coulter a college graduate and licensed attorney?

Everybody needs a gimmick!

By ron

June 28, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

When a conservative idiot attacks a liberal idiot,has anything really happened?

By @@

June 28, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

That’s an easy one to answer ron.

NOPE!!!!!

By @@

June 28, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Oops, I forgot…

(((When a conservative idiot attacks a liberal idiot,has anything really happened?)))

and vice versa.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 8:07

LOL! Now that’s funny! Thanks!

By Susan

June 28, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

The real Ann Coulter and the blog Ann Coulter must have not been hugged as children. As adults, they feed their insecurities by attempting to bring others DOWN to their levels. Ann thinks if she constantly directs her vituperative utterings towards others, the world won’t notice her own flaws.

By Can't Resist

June 28, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

“”Isn’t Ann Coulter a college graduate and licensed attorney?”“

So are all the inmates at Club Fed!

By RW-(the original)

June 28, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

IN THE FEVER SWAMPS,

Remember this?

{{{{{{Since when was the OVP not part of the executive branch? ———->Has Dick Cheney ever even read the Constitution of the United States<———-? You know, the one he took an oath to uphold and protect?-By Silly Moron}}}}}}

Now it’s probably a good idea to quit advancing that claim because of all the other entanglements, but the only duty the Vice-President has that is Constitutionally mandated is to act as President of the Senate. The Vice-President also DOES NOT report to the President in a boss/subordinate relationship like the cartoon Silly Moron linked to the next day.

It would have a very interesting case and one I very much would have liked seeing the Supreme Court take up.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

@@, I read through the blog last night and saw your response. So, I’m going to attempt to respond back.

First of all, comparing Grady to a private non-profit school is like comparing apples and oranges. Yes, in your case, fundraising does work for schools, it also works for Grady, I’m sure they receive tons of grant money, both private, state, and federal. In fact, any of their budget that comes from the state or federal sources ARE grants. Any kind of money that is allocated through a government agency, is in response to a grant program.

Any grant money that is received via a Fortune 500 company or any private corporation does not come without strings attached. Corporations and private foundations have agendas and they fund money to places that fit their agenda, but when they fund the money, it is a legal contract, kind of like that institution is employed by them - which is why I don’t feel that severl private donors or contributors is a good thing for Grady - it’s like having too many chiefs.

So, like with anything, I think the solution to Grady’s problems is not going to happen with one thing, it will take a combination of actions to get them out of this trouble.

I am not a healthcare management expert, so I’m not going to even pretend that any specific solution I come up with will work.

However, I think that like any corporation, when they are failing, the management needs to go and be replaced. I know that conservatives believe in less government (except of course when it comes to social issues), but there are some institutions that require the governments involvement - at least that’s what I believe - and two of those are healthcare and education.

Yes, I feel that many of the “government” officials at Grady are corrupt, and I think that many of Grady’s problems are because of uninsured patients and illegal immigrants getting medical help. But because of that, I feel we need to look at the bigger picture and figure out WHY there are so many uninsured patients coming in, and then maybe Grady and other hospitals like them, can work on the solutions to fix the problem.

Oh, and also, a gatekeeper would be nice.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

If Mann bashed the gop, like Rush, Lott would want her shut down.

Mrs. Edwards bashed her and shut her down.

Mann is helping Edwards raise funds on his website for the second time, so you could argue that Mann is fundraising for Edwards.

Bwa.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Mann Coulter should be in prison. Has the Secret Service investigated her yet for wishing John Edwards to be assassinated? Oh that’s right, Bush’s Secret Service only investigates liberals, while conservative man-w******* like Jeff Gannon are given free rein of the White House without even getting the basic background checks required of other frequent White House visitors. Why should we expect the Secret Service to investigate death threats against a Democratic presidential candidate? That would require them to do their job in an impartial manner. Just like they didn’t care when Pat Robertson suggested that terrorists nuke the State Department. It’s not their job to care, it’s their job to protect Republicans.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Cheney says he and his office are not part of the executive branch. But he’ll have to change his tune immediately in order to squash a subpoena by claiming executive privilege. And that is why the subpoena was issued, to force Darth Cheney to recant his recent claim that he’s a new and independent 4th branch of government. Two points for the Dems.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

RW/Buy Dhimmi - it must be very tiring to continue grasping at straws while you sink deeper and deeper.

Face it. You lost this one. Run along now.

By RW-(the original)

June 28, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Would Silly Moron lie to you? Why yes, yes he would!

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

“Your papers, please”

By getalife

June 28, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Bruce Fein, the associate deputy attorney general under Reagan, has apparently seen enough of cheney’s bs.

The think the gop will cut and run from cheney this summer.

Iraq is still a disaster and getting worse.

They vote on amnesty today.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Would RW/Buy Dhimmi use a wacko right wing propaganda web site to try and prove his point? Is the Pope Catholic?

By Seeker

June 28, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Can somebody show me the lie RW thinks he sees…..seems more live another one of those diversionary tactics of his.

By @@

June 28, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Bosch:

(((Any grant money that is received via a Fortune 500 company or any private corporation does not come without strings attached.)))

You’re typical of the left. Suspicious of all things corporate, but confident in all things government which have already proven to be failures.

Like I said, I was not suggesting that Grady be taken over by private funding. It’s far too large. You could, however eliminate the abusers by privately funded clinics on the outskirts (like the clinics in Florida). That would reduce the overall cost to Grady and they could get back to their intended purpose.

What you fail to accept Bosch is the impact of human nature. Who wouldn’t take “advantage” of something that is free? How can you be sure that Grady staffers are verifying income on those individuals? Are they just wasting money so they can justify the need for more?

As to our school…the Administrator refuses to accept any government funds because THEY will seek to control how we function. People bring their kids to us because the government funded schools are failing to meet their needs.

The corporations? Their only request is that names and faces of the children can be used for media exposure, and THAT is granted by the parents, not the school.

No strings Bosch. That would defeat their purpose, which is exactly what I think the government is all about when it comes to individuals.

You may want to do some research into the SCHIP program that is up for review. If robbing from the elderly to cover the children is acceptable, then you’ve got yourself a plan. The abuses under that program are astounding.

There are articles in the NYP, the Seattle Times, The Olympian and yes, The Heritage Foundation.

By RW-(the original)

June 28, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

A right wing propaganda web site?

Perhaps based on your viewpoints, but the right wing propaganda web site has the complete video and transcript unlike the edited clip the left wing nutroots used to edit out the context of the Coulter appearance and commentary.

Off on vacation! See you all in a couple weeks.

By @@

June 28, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

and Bosch, the corporate officers also would like their pictures included in our annual yearbook, something that is donated through a local printing company.

Their only request is for recognition of their contribution. They benefit from that and are able to contribute even more as a result. That’s how they operate, on the barter system. The only thing the government has to barter with is YOUR tax dollars and the BS that they SELL you.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

I thought I’d skipped a few months of my life when I read the cartoon. Who cares? It seem just yesterday many on the Left cared, a lot. So much so that they posted and posted and posted about her.

I did go to John Edwards’ website to see how they represented Mrs. Edwards’ phone call and to see what Ms Coulter was talking about regarding “fund raising.” There it was - “here’s Ann Coulter. Give us money so we can fight her.”

So the answer to the question of “who cares?” is: John Edwards. A lot.

getalife: Olbermann was on Letterman last night with his partner on their sports radio show. I didn’t realize he was still doing sports. I can see why he has a large audience when he’s doing sports on the radio.

By Who_really_cares?

June 28, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Coulter sank to new lows-even for her-by making some kind of crude joke regarding a bumper sticker inviting others to ask Edwards to “Ask me about my dead son.” That is why Elizabeth Edwards finally called in…and when Annie the Ugly asked why John hadn’t called, Elizabeth reminded her that the dead child in question was hers as well.

She is a useless piece of crap. Maybe it’s time to ship her happy a55 to Iraq!

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Romney’s Shaggy Dog Story

GRISWALD 08!

By w00t

June 28, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

The difference between Coulter and the rest of American’s is that we use logic and reason to discuss real issues that are affecting use on a daily basis. Ann Coulter and friends would rather use catch phrases and false claims to smear other people. When you bring it down to this level, you are destroying the political debate on the issues which people like Ann Coulter could never win. What coulter, Hannity, and Rush talk about are NON ISSUES. Who cares about $400 hair cuts, who cares about Edwards primping his hair, who cares about the tin foil hat conspiracies that Hannity comes up with. THEY HAVE NO MEANING ON THE REAL ISSUES. The real issues that these people should be talking about are finding a way to gracefully exiting Iraq, Helping people in THIS country, education, out of control healthcare, etc, etc.

The thing is, these people don’t care about you, me, or this country. They’re not even journalist, they are entertainers. All they care about is that you listen to them and buy their books so they can continue to line their pockets and buy fancy apartments in downtown Manhattan. That’s why they say and make these outrageous claims. It’s the equivalent of verbal shock and awe. They make weak minded people believe that they are patriotic because they stand in front of the American flag on their books and attach apple pies and baseball to their far out ideas, or claim to be Christians. If these people had any interest in the well being of this country, they would ask REAL questions. They would ask the toughest of the tough questions to the president and his administration and hold them to account instead of humbling at their feet like the lap dogs they are. They would take a serious look at what it means to be in Iraq and what it has done to the safety of not only the US but to the safety of the world. They would ask why it took so long to get help to New Orleans. They would ask why there has been an attack on logic, reason, and science in this country.

However… it’s easier to keep the people dumb and happy… because dumb and happy people don’t ask questions.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

@@, I’m not surprised that a private school doesn’t accept money from any government sources, gee I wonder why? So are you for vouchers too? Because if that ever becomes a reality, you better believe your private school is going to have government officials knocking on their door. Your private school will be inundated with the same “No Child Left Behind” bs that public schools have to endure every day.

But, @@, sorry, but you are simply wrong about grant money from private corporations. They always come with strings. Do you happen to administer the grant money? Did you write the grant proposals? Did you negotiate the award with the donors? Do you write the financial reports?

You see the good side of the grant awards, the smiling little faces of the children on the websites with the company logo right beside them.

And no, I don’t believe in all things government and nothing corporate. Corporations can do really great things, but they have their agendas, just like government. Government money is also allocated through strings. Nobody gives money for “free.”

I think in terms of the bigger picture. Are their abusers? Sure. Of course people will abuse the system if they are allowed to get away with it. I totally agree with you about that. But solutions to problems usually start with looking at WHY something is happening and then coming up with solutions to that problem.

Like I said, it will be a combination of things that will work.

By rustylynn

June 28, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Two things:

the press has intentionally mangled what Ann said. She was showing the stark contrast between associating the “f-word” with Edwards and Maher wishing Cheney killed by insurgents. Which was worse? And what was covered the most?

Who looks bad in all this is Edwards. He has to get his wife to fight his battles? What’s he going to do if he’s elected and another head of state says something mean about him? Make his wife fight his battles? personally I dont associate the “f-word” with John Boy, but the “p-word”…absolutely.

By Who_really_cares?

June 28, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

…oh yeah…love the ‘toon..but… nothing that Coulter spouts could be as pretty or amusing as fireworks. Maybe as dangerous as fireworks in an area prone to brush fires and no rain…

By mm

June 28, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Coulter is just another in a long line of rightwingnuts bringing negative attention to themselves and the GOP.

Keep it up fools! The 20 percent approval rating can only be weeks away.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

RW - Have a great vacation? Are you going back home to Jena, Louisiana this year?](http://www.flickr.com/photos/whileseated/633429896)

By SarahConnah

June 28, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

w00t…@10:03

BRAVO!

Well stated and so accurate.

Curtsie!

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Let’s try that link again

By getalife

June 28, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

And you thought Clinton was bad

Geez.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Speaking of KO

He does not care for your hero BO.

Geez.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Oh, I was wondering how long it would take for some wingnut to say something like this:

“He has to get his wife to fight his battles? What’s he going to do if he’s elected and another head of state says something mean about him? Make his wife fight his battles?”

Maybe, wingnut, just maybe, Elizabeth Edwards can think for herself? Maybe she doesn’t need permission from her husband to speak her own mind? Maybe Elizabeth Edwards is p** off because people like Ann Coulter don’t have the decency to leave their dead son alone? Would you say something to an idiot like Coulter if she were mocking the death of one of your children?

By getalife

June 28, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Oops, wrong link

By @@

June 28, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Bosch:

(((But, @@, sorry, but you are simply wrong about grant money from private corporations. They always come with strings. Do you happen to administer the grant money? Did you write the grant proposals? Did you negotiate the award with the donors? Do you write the financial reports?)))

and you know ^^^ this because?

I’ve spent 15 years working there, and have come to know our Director of Education very well. She has her PhD in Special Education. The program at our school was “implemented” by her. She will allow noone to interfere with its’ execution.

I’m in favor of the voucher program, but she was opposed for the reasons you mentioned. I don’t know if we’ll be forced to accept them or not. She says NOT as long as we can secure scholarship funding from private donations.

Sorry Bosch, but you can’t know ALL things in ALL instances.

Bummer, huh?

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Another compassionate CONservative

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

June 28, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

-=-

OK =-

So if you follow RW’s logic:

“the only duty the Vice-President has that is Constitutionally mandated is to act as President of the Senate.”

Then Cheney has been overstepping his authority, committed breach of Trust, abuse of powers, and violated his powers of office by meddling in everything that he has meddled in…

Yep - Thanks RW — you have made some very good points for Impeachment of Cheney.

We will start with that “Closed Door Secret Energy” meeting, the “Klamath Fish Kill” incident, and then move on to the fired federal attorneys and all the other abuses.

Cheers —

By getalife

June 28, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Bearded lady at the freak show

Geez.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

getalife

I thought Olbermann really likes BOR - he talks about him a lot. Pity - still hasn’t helped his tv ratings much. Still strikes me as one of those people w00t wrote about at 10:03. Or given that Olbermann said BOR doesn’t talk about him, that Eleanor Roosevelt quote we talked about here a few weeks ago:

“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”

He sure talks a lot about people. A bit about events. Ideas? He doesn’t seem to have many original ideas. He’s a lot better at sports.

By rushncap

June 28, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

W00t — with all due respect, what Coulter does is not verbal “shock and awe”. It’s verbal prostitution. People like Coulter wake up and say to themselves “What do I have to say today to get idiots to buy the crap I’m selling?” Once they figure out what it is, they go and do it. If Ann Coulter had to call her own mom a skank on national TV to sell 6 more books, she would do it. If she had to say that she hopes every baby with AIDS dies in agony to sell 11 more books, she would do it. If she had to go out there and get out of a car with no panties on to sell 15 more books, she would do it. It does not matter what it takes. As I said last night, she is the political equivalent of Paris Hilton. They are famous for one reason, and one reason only: she is a proud, unabashed s|uts. And there is a reason it’s the oldest profession — people are fascinated by it. We’re all the more fascinated by it because neither Paris nor Ann actually need to prostitute themselves, they would do just fine without it. They seem to want to do it. And people want to buy their wares. And as long as people are buying, they will get on TV.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Well @@, it’s true, I don’t know all things in all instances, and neither do you, bummer, huh? I wish I did.

I don’t like to give out personal information on this blog, so I’ll just say, grants are something I know a great deal about — how they are procured, how they are written, how they are administered, how they are negotiated, and every thing else that goes along with it. I have worked on many occasions with “professional fundraisers” like you mentioned yesterday, and believe me, their passionate cause will change in an instant if the price is right. I equate them to cheerleaders.

And I can say with the utmost confidence that no money is ever given away for free, not to government ran hospitals, not to private schools, not to any non-profit organization, never, never, never, sorry, but it’s not, government money, or private money.

I hope you do get those scholarships because to me, it will be a great day when private schools have to answer to the “feds.” Oh, the sweet ironies of life.

No, you won’t be “forced” to accept the vouchers. I think private schools are now realizing the headaches they will bring and are backing down a bit to push for them.

By Funny morons®

June 28, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

getalife 10:31

Mann Coulter indeed. She’s disgusting.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Peoples for a Nuked

Still seems to me this is a lot of turf battle and Executive vs Legislative.

There were a couple of good op-ed pieces out today - you might enjoy them. One’s not at all sympathetic to Cheney, the other is but criticizes his tactics and says they were detrimental to what he was trying to achieve.

One’s by Eugene Robinson, the other by Jonah Goldberg.

Link: What was Cheney really up to?

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

@@, I’m just curious, and I don’t want you to give out too much information either, but I’m curious about your school because of the Director obviously has a special education background. Is this school for special needs children or is it just a regular private school?

By getalife

June 28, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Paul,

When a host cuts the mic on guests, it is a one sided argument.

I do not understand why so many people watch that pervert.

KO never cuts the mic or screams over guests. He does what you claim BO does. Plus he is funny.

By @@

June 28, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Well Bosch, I forgot to mention; I was once CEO of a major corporation. I just prefer working with the mentally and physically challenged. Keeps me grounded.

(((And I can say with the utmost confidence that no money is ever given away for free.)))

WRONG…religious organizations give it away each and every day…no strings attached, no questions asked.

Bummer, huh?

By georgia 74

June 28, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

@@, She has an Ed.D in Special Education,I guess you can’t know everything. Bummer

By @@

June 28, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Bosch:

It’s strictly special needs children. Enrollment can be limited due to an established student/teacher ratio of 3 to 1, and limited space. I think the Director will be able to refuse vouchers on that criteria alone.

I agree that fundraisers will eventually move on to more lucrative salaries. Competition for jobs can only enhance their drive to succeed, and as a result, the organizations they work for will benefit from that drive.

By Now that's Funny

June 28, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

””“”religious organizations give it away each and every day…no strings attached, no questions asked.”“”“

try thinking a little deeper

By getalife

June 28, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

@@,

A CEO of a major corporation?

OMG, no wonder you are gop.

Geez.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

@@, Again, apples and oranges, religious organizations and funding agencies? Corporate donors? Um, no, they aren’t the same.

It’s okay to admit when you are wrong.

Seriously, congratulations on your accomplishments — see, that’s why we are different. You are in the business world, I am not. Our perspectives are just a lot different. You see what you see, and so do I — and that’s okay.

I also applaud you for your work with the disabled. It’s a very hard job, but so much more rewarding than being a silly ol’ CEO, am I right? :-)

By @@

June 28, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

georgia 74:

Special Education Graduate Programs Doctoral Programs

(((Our Ph.D. students are immersed in a 90-hour program of study, participate integrally in the undergraduate and graduate teacher education programs, and have multiple opportunities for engaging in research.)))

Yeah…bummer.

Out for awhile.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Oh and another thing, @@, I can argue that some religious organizations do have strings attached to their money. People like Jerry Falwell come to mind when I say that, or the President of the Southern Baptist Convention. I have a friend who stopped attending a rather large Baptist church in metro Atlanta because of questionable charity giving and the strings attached.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

June 28, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

-=-

Ok —

I have to state —

Obviously unlike other supposedly “Right Knights” here —-

@@ really is a Compasionate Conservative ——

-= Cheers =-

By Paul

June 28, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

getalife

I generally record shows, blow past the parts that seem fluff or have guests I’m not too interested in (in BOR’s case, the Coulters and Malkins). I didn’t find many opposing viewpoint guests on Olbermann (OM?). Plus as I’ve said, he seems to me to spend a lot of time in addressing people, not issues. Not even using people to illustrate issues. Plus I think it costs credibility with OM with all the name-calling, or making up cutesy names for people he doesn’t like - as takeoffs on their given names. Strikes me as more of a jr high style - not a graduate-level style.

But some people like that. That’s fine. BOR gets a bit hyperbolic at times. I try to look past that for the idea - just as I do here.

I went to the “cut the mike” segment you posted - for once Crooks and Liars showed the entire segment, not edited to fit their agenda - the guests were the cofounder of Code Pink and a Democratic strategist. The topic was the Far Left antiwar group’s angst with Hillary, Congress, etc. The Code Pink person answered the questions AND got in her digs at Republicans. The strategist wouldn’t address the questions. What was it - BOR asked the Code Pink why they weren’t happy with Hillary. She replied they’d finally gotten Hillary more in alignment with their point of view but still weren’t happy (I think I got that right). BOR asked the Dem strategist if she agreed that there was a split between the far Left and Hillary. The lady said BOR was making up divisions, then said “well, the Bush Administration…” BOR gave her several chances to answer and explain, she wouldn’t discuss Liberal/Democratic divisions, then BOR cut her mike and gave all the rest of the time to the Code Pink cofounder. At the end he told the Dem strategist, sorry ‘bout that, but we have a few minutes here, a topic to discuss, and you’re invited to give a point of view on the topic, not about whatever you want to discuss. Code Pink understood that and got the time. BTW - neither of the guests were “conservative.”

I went to the Dem’s website. She wrote she had some points to make but BOR wouldn’t let her. She didn’t do her homework. That’s one show where questions are supposed to be addressed - not with the “right” answer, just addressed. The Code Pink cofounder understood th

By getalife

June 28, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Wow Paul,

Lots of excuses for his censorship.

I believe in free speech.

I made this banner:

“Bong hits for w and cheney!”

Geez.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

The immigration bill is dead.

By silver

June 28, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

I have this fantasy about ann coulter: she is tied to a cross on the south lawn of the white house, given only vinigar to drink. President and Mrs Edwards are on a speaking platform also on the south lawn, and several hundred thousand people are cheering wildly as the president signs an executive order for the arrest and crusifixation of all right wing radio and print fanatics like ms coulter and her fans. Oh yeah, the hag on the cross is fully clothed from head to foot in a burka. We would not want to scare young children, or make grown men sweer off sex due to hideousness of ms coulters scrawney body. It is just too bad she was not on flight 93 with her equally ugly and obnoxious friend, whatever her name was, I have already forgotten. Hopefully we will all soon forget ms double ugly coulter, imho.

By Anonymous

June 28, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Coulter is great. She puts the face on the Bushdrones that they deserve—an ignorant, hateful embarrassment to the country.

And she’s done a great service to Edwards’ campaign. The funny part is, with all her complaining about Edwards “capitalizing” on her hysterical screeching to raise money… it never occurs to her that she could cut off that fundraising by just shutting up!

Of course, she’s incapable of that: an empty head and an open mouth always go together with neocon and their fan club, it seems.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

getalife

The Dem debate is on tonight. Lotsa candidates. A limited time. A theme of topics. Candidates get told “you each get one minute per question. If you want to respond to an opposing view from another Democratic candidate you will be granted 30 seconds when I recognize you.”

Question comes about impact of ethanol production on food prices. Candidate answers with “Bush lied to get us in Iraq.” Host interrupts and repeats the question. Candidate responds with “the Republican quagmire.” Host says “we have a topic here, other candidates waiting,” then lets the candidate keep talking. Candidate blows past the time limit, effectively stealing time from the other candidates and keeping the spotlight on himself/herself.

You’re the host. Millions of people are watching to find out about what the candidates think about specific issues. They also want to hear from all the candidates, not just one.

You’re the moderator. What do you do?

I don’t expect an answer. It’s how I see the BOR thing - not a “free speech” issue at all.

BTW - with the banner - just make sure you’re not at a school-derived event with a principal who doesn’t like you nearby. You won’t get to go to school for a few days. Wait - maybe that was your whole point?

By AmVet

June 28, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Good morning all,

I can only stop by for a minute and have to run, but Paul, per your last post, I thought you’d enjoy this ditty I just posted over at Wooten’s:

If only that dumb kid in Alaska had put up a banner with “Pipe Dreams for Jesus” he would not have had to worry about the Kennedy gang, I mean the Supreme Court, ruling against him.

Unless double entendres are also now legally imperiled!

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Good day everyone…I see ML did it again …the toon is great! I think ML is the bomb! You critics ever try coming up with something creative every day of your lives…I’m thinking NO…it is the job of a political cartoonist to provoke in an amusing way…and he accomplishes that with almost every creation. Admitedly, some are funnier than others…but he always provokes …thought, anger, angst. As for coulter, I still say that if you imagined her with duct tape over her mouth, or perhaps a deaf/mute…she’s hot!

By Little Right of Center

June 28, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

The difference between Michael Moore, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi and the rest of American’s is that we use logic and reason to discuss real issues that are affecting use on a daily basis. Michael Moore and friends would rather use catch phrases (Global Warming, Carbon Foot Print, Bring dignity and honor to Washington) and false claims to smear other people. When you bring it down to their level, you are destroying the political debate and the use common sense to the issues which people like Michael Moore, Al Gore and friends could never win. What Moore, Gore, and Pelosi talk about are NON ISSUES. Who cares about global warming? 30 years ago the same people were touting the new Ice Age. Who cares about the left’s never ending whining that Bush Lied, Cheney is a criminal. THERE ARE NO FACTS TO SUPPORT THOSE CLAIMS and they HAVE NO MEANING or IMPACT ON THE REAL ISSUES. The real issues that these people should be talking about are finding a way to win the war in Iraq, not supporting the enemies of the USA, helping to keep the economy growing, improve education, and get the corruption out of healthcare, etc, etc. The thing is, these people don’t care about you, me, or this country. They’re professional politicians and idiots and are not very entertaining. All they care about is that you listen to them and buy their books and watch their fiction on the big screen so they can continue to line their pockets and buy fancy apartments on the left coast. That’s why they say and make these outrageous claims. It’s the equivalent of verbal shock and awe. They make weak minded people believe that they are patriotic because they stand in front of the American people and attach apple pies and baseball to their far out ideas, or claim to be Christians. If these people had any interest in the well being of this country, they would ask REAL questions. They would ask the toughest of the tough questions on real issues and would work to resolve them. Let’s hold the new congress accountable instead of just saying that ‘change is good’. They should take a serious look at what it means to be in Iraq and what it has done to the safety of not only the US but to the safety of the world. They should ask why the politicians in New Orleans did NOTHING and then tried to blame the President for their short comings and failures. They should ask why there has been an attack on logic, reason, and science in this country. However… it’s easier to keep the people dumb and happy… because dumb and

By @@

June 28, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Thomas:

Thank you!

(((Ok —)))

(((I have to state —)))

(((Obviously unlike other supposedly “Right Knights” here —-)))

(((@@ really is a Compasionate Conservative ——)))

I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of the other “Right Knights” here.

I have learned a great deal from the compassion exhibited by RW. I’ve had several occasions to witness it in personal discussions through e-mail and on his site.

Dusty’s appreciation for all things and ALL people comes through clearly in her posts.

Andy’s concern for America’s children born, and still to be born is equivalent to that of Bill O’Reilly’s.

Danish’s passion to protect American’s from socialist policies and our enemies within and without is unprecedented.

Compassionate conservativism is a new phenomenon that is misunderstood by many.

It’s not a fashion statement that can adorn the individual in the latest trend. It’s a “one-size fits all” off the rack ensemble.

There are no “designers” involved. It’s “sturdy work apparel” overalls if you prefer.

Off to run errands.

By Little Right of Center

June 28, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

To finish…

However… it’s easier to keep the people dumb and happy… because dumb and happy people make good Democrats.

By GodHatesTrash

June 28, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Little Right of Center, that Georgia GED means you ain’t near as smart as you think you is.

Trash.

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

I also find it fun to reflect on the fact that if it were not for the couragous liberal women who have gone before her, fighting for the right of all women to speak their mind…coulter would be ostracized by the very people she speaks for.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Bush hypocritically loads up on earmarks.

By Little Right of Center

June 28, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Trash,

How about the Ohio BS or maybe the New York MS.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

On Hardball, Coulter ran rampant with falsehoods

By cubalibre

June 28, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Freedom of speech notwithstanding, anyone who’d defend Ann Coulter’s irrational vitriol against John Edwards is as loony as she is. Someone on this board referred to the fact that AC has a law degree— BFD, so does Dan Quayle, one of the biggest morons in the history of mankind. Educated fools are a dime a dozen, and Coulter proves this every time she opens her mouth. For the life of me, though, I can’t figure out why anybody takes her seriously— she’s like a rabid Rhesus monkey, screeching and flinging feces against the bars of its cage, desperately clamouring for attention.

Personally, I thought Elizabeth Edwards showed great class and restraint, but it would’ve been much more fun to see her show up and slampunch AC in that great big Adam’s apple of hers.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Yes, Mike forgot to draw the huge adam’s apple on Mann.

Geez.

By w00t

June 28, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

LRC, what’s more of a threat to you, terrorist in Iraq or FEMA not able to help you in a natural disaster, or a health care system that doesn’t care about you or your family?

You have a GREATER chance of being struck by LIGHTNING than being killed in a terrorist attack.

Get your priorities straight. IF you want to continue to see your paycheck flushed down the toilet that is Iraq, then by all means keep sending it in. For me, you can count me out. I would much rather my money be spent here at home on border security, better schools, and ultimately the on the betterment of the American people. Stop letting this Administration scare you by saying there’s a buggy man under your bed.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

From an Edwards’ Campaign e-mail:

Dear Friend,

Last night I had an important talk with Ann Coulter and I want to tell you what happened.On Monday, Ann announced that instead of using more homophobic slurs to attack John, she will just wish that John had been “killed in a terrorist assassination plot.”

Where I am from, when someone does something that displeases you, you politely ask them to stop. So when I heard Ann was going to be on “Hardball” last night, I decided to call in and ask her to engage on the issues and stop the personal attacks. I told her these kinds of personal attacks lower our political dialogue at precisely the time when we need to raise it, and set a bad example for our children.

How did she respond? Sadly, perhaps predictably, with more personal attacks.

John’s campaign is about the issues—but pundits like Ann Coulter are trying to shout him down. If they will not stop, it is up to us cut through the noise. Help us fight back—please give what you can today.

Hahahaha.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Turley: Avoid Bush’s Executive Privilege Claim By Investigating NSA Program As A Crime

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Wall Street Journal reporters stage ‘walk-out.’ WSJ reporters “across the country chose not to show up to work this morning” to protest the potential sale of Dow Jones to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation

By w00t

June 28, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

This is proof that people who watch fox news are idiots.

Infoporn: Despite the Web, Americans Remain Woefully Ill-Informed

By Little Right of Center

June 28, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

w00t, What scares me the most is not terrorist attacks, FEMA, a natural disaster or the GOP. It’s the left’s desire and never ending push to turn this country into a socialist state. I want my money to remain my money. My Lord only asks for 10% to do his work, so why should I give a corrupt government more than that?

Border security is the job of our military. I would rather the military do their job ‘over there’ than in my backyard. Better education for my children is my responsibility NOT the government. My wife and I have homeschooled our children off and on. They have attended government schools a couple of times during their K-12 years. They preferred home schooling as government schooling bored them. As my daughter put it about public schools ‘there’s too much fluff and not enough substance. Does the ‘betterment of the American people’ require me to support people that refuse to work or contribute to their own well being? I cannot solve the country’s problems but I can and do support those less fortunate through my church and volunteer work.

While this administration has made many mistakes and I do not support the GOP 100%, it is the left that has me worried and concerned for our future. The left wants to ban all personal firearms. It is the left that wants to do away with free speech. It is the left that wants to take my earnings and give it to someone else.

By The Watcher

June 28, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Here’s a few real stinkers….

“It’s the left’s desire and never ending push to turn this country into a socialist state”

“The left wants to ban all personal firearms. It is the left that wants to do away with free speech. It is the left that wants to take my earnings and give it to someone else.”

That may be how old LROC feels…. but it is not the truth.

It is easier to give voice to old fears, lies whispered into the ears of the timid than to do your duty as a citizen and seek the truth.

Fortunately, 70% of Americans are now truth seekers.

LROC show us the facts to support your statements, or be content to be considered a fraud .

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

“It’s the left’s desire and never ending push to turn this country into a socialist state.”

“The left wants to ban all personal firearms. It is the left that wants to do away with free speech. It is the left that wants to take my earnings and give it to someone else. “

Wait a minute, did I miss a lefties meeting? When did all this happen? Well, I’ll give him the ban all personal firearms thing, but I missed the memo stating that the lefties want to do all that other stuff.

Does anyone have a copy I can look at? Thanks.

By w00t

June 28, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

well, you shouldn’t have to pay to go to church IMO.

Also, the church should have nothing to do with the political process. They should not endorse polictical leaders. If they do, then they get to be taxed just like everyone else.

Also, what is “fluff” in public schools?

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Oh and another thing, LROC, are you a Christian? Jesus didn’t require a 10%tithe.

By rushncap

June 28, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

@@ — you really should do stand up comedy. Your 12:24 is priceless! I was laughing my behind off. That’s almost as rich as Coulter’s “we found WMDs in Iraq”.

By @@

June 28, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Damn, the Iranians are firing off gas stations.

(((As many as 50 gasoline stations were reportedly torched early June 27 in Iran as angry citizens protested fuel rationing measures. There are additional unconfirmed reports that gasoline stations in several other cities across the country were also burned. Elsewhere, protesters reportedly blocked the main highway in Tehran, and clashes were said to have led to at least three deaths.)))

(((Moreover, the decision to ration also factors in the uncertainty surrounding Iran’s international position; additional sanctions over Tehran’s nuclear program could put the clerical regime in even more of a crunch. The rationing also allows Iran’s pragmatic conservatives, led by Expediency Council head Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, to weaken the ultraconservatives, led by Ahmadinejad, by fueling public dissatisfaction with the president, in hopes that it could eventually lead to his exit from the political scene. The maverick leader is increasingly viewed as a liability in terms of domestic politics, and especially on the foreign policy front.)))

Gosh, wouldn’t torching those stations just exacerbate their fuel problems.

Oh well, who am I to stifle their dissent?

Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em fellas.

Stratfor is full of good stuff on the Middle East. I’ll drop in later to share if anyone is interested in some “good” news out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Putin remains a pain in the a$$ though. The guy really is a pain. It’s all about “the power” with him.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

@@, Yeah, that Putin a*****, he really is a pain. He doesn’t want us putting up our missile defense systems either. He is just not playing along, is he? He wants all that power, something NOBODY in our government wants.

That is an odd thing for the Iranians to do though. Crazy Iranians.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Legal Memo Confirms White House Led Effort To Target And Remove U.S. Attorneys

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

TAKE A PEAK AT THIS!!!

By AmVet

June 28, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

{ My Lord only asks for 10% to do his work, so why should I give a corrupt government more than that?}

So you’ll give people who speak on behalf of your mythological being a tenth of your income, but want to give nothing for American roads, schools, fire departments, hospitals, police protection, the US Armed Forces, veterans care, etc?

Your sense of independence is admirable but your right-wing extremism belies a serious lack of grasp on the reality of how a democratic republic works.

I do believe this sentence, {I want my money to remain my money.} is incredibly significant - enjoy the benefits of liberty and living in America, but if possible, don’t pay a dime for any of it.

And I’m not sure if it’s classic Reaganism or @@’s “compassionate conservatism”! But either way the message is clear - I got mine, screw everyone else.

By @@

June 28, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

I’m gonna alleviate some of your pent-up stress before I step out again.

Please don’t feel as though you have to address any of my posts. Surely it’s beneath you to communicate with a horrific human being such as myself. I certainly don’t expect you to.

Feel better rushncap…do whatever it takes short of addressing my posts.

I wish you well, truly I do.

Sincerely,

Horrific Backstabbing Racist Bigot @@(ISH)

I had to go back to find ^^^ those. There were others, I just don’t have time to list them all.

Outta here again!!!!

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Ann Coulter Loses It, Calls Elizabeth Edwards A “Harridan”

By mm

June 28, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

LROC,

You are reading the GOP cue card. These lies are the basis of the GOP brainwashing of it’s brain-dead supporters.

Nobody wants the government running our lives. Please give an example of the push for a socialist state.

Nobody is trying to ban guns. Though gun CONTROL is obviously needed. How many handgun murders occur in the US annually. How many in other countries?

Our borders are not overseas, so let’s pull our troops out of all the foreign countries. We’re not protecting our country. We’re inciting others to attack us.

If you give 10 percent of your pay to a church you are a fool. What does the church do with your money?

The left wants to eliminate free speech? Please provide an example. It is the Bush Admin who has clamped down on free speech and protesting. They don’t allow anyone near Bush who disagrees with him.

And in your 12:23 post it looks like you got your parties mixed up.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Poll shows many Republicans favor universal healthcare, gays in military

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Yeah, AmVet, I think that’s exactly what LROC is saying. Hey, did you attend that lefties meeting where we spelled out our evil plan to turn American into a socialist state, do away with firearms, take everyone’s money, and silence free speech? Also, did you know that Jesus Christ never called for tithing - that’s just a church thing. Just wondering.

By rushncap

June 28, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

@@ — I don’t )have( to do a lot of things. Let me assure you that I )choose( to do it because, simply put, it amuses me. Your posts don’t usually have much to address. You had some sort of a hospital administration discussion yesterday, but since I don’t know anything about that I chose to stay out of it. But if you think your extolling the great virtues of people like li’l andykin and Muffin bear “addressing” you’re not nearly as intelligent as I thought.

And yes, you’re a horrific human being. I stand by that. You can’t plead utter stupidity, like many of your kin. If you’re homeless and smell like sh!t every day, that’s understandable, if repulsive. If you live in the suburb and simply choose to take a bath in sh!t every day just to achieve that smell, that’s just horrible. You should and do know better. You just don’t care.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

w00t 1:20

If you wanna feel really great, just realize that when the military fires off a cruise missile, there goes enough $$$$ that you probably won’t pay enough taxes in your lifetime to pay for just one of them.

@@ 2:05

Iranians are firing off gas stations? Okay, gas is loose. If it gets ingested, it’s poison. Gas. Poison. Iranians got poison gas!!!

WMDs solved.

Seriously, though, if you haven’t already, check out disinvestterror.org

If states and others would just pull investment funds from companies that do business with Iran, we just might see regime change the right way. Pres Bush has had the authority to order it (so did Pres Clinton) but neither one would use it. Something to do with consensus with our European allies.

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You’re right in your assessment. Not only do I not want to pi$$ off our Euro allies, I also care about the people and welfare of Iran. So far, we don’t have enough evidence that would justify any type of attack or embargo against them.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

mm

[[If you give 10 percent of your pay to a church you are a fool. What does the church do with your money?]]

And here I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant, respectful of diversity and nonjudgmental.

At least that’s what I keep reading here!

By Willie

June 28, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

A couple of months go by and one takes a peek at this blog. It’s the same. inferior, grossly needy freaks like BD, Luckoschmuck. @@, Dustbrain, RW, Poorpaul and others are still vomiting forth their hate-mongering excrement. I suppose one must somehow pity these Repunks. How impotent they must feel. How frightened and small. So they console themselves with delusions of inherent superiority while wasting space. Sicko.

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

to nowhere near the center: I’m very sorry for your children that you chose to home school for any length of time, cause your a nut dude! You’ve obviously been raised by idiots like I was, but not to fear, I’m here to help…”My Lord only asks for 10% to do his work, so why should I give a corrupt government more than that?” Well, for the moment its actually more your corrupt government than it is mine…we “lefties” didn’t put that maniac in office. And uh, aren’t you supposed to do something like render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s… And I don’t know any liberal that would want to take away free speech…it is because of liberal thought that you even have the appearance of free speech…as long as you’re conservative and in the bush camp, you can have all the free speech you want, darling!

By mm

June 28, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I give 1 percent of my salary to the united way.

I also donate to charities regularly (old clothes, furniture, etc.).

By the way, I take exception to being called a liberal. I am a registered independant and despise the far left and far right.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Dear Pres Bush 2:44

I yank the money, you fold. You’ll get booted by all those youngsters who don’t like you or your mullahs. I take the leader of a nation at his word. You say you want nukes. You say you’re developing them. You say you’ll use them to wipe Israel off the map, then turn them against Crusaders to pave the way for that mullah dude on a white horse who’s gonna bring back Mohammed, or some such nonsense.

Saddam thought I didn’t take him seriously. His mistake. You’re next.

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Liberals are heathenistic idiots, plain and simple. They tell lie after lie so much they don’t even know when they’re lying anymore. mm doesn’t ask what does Georgia Power, or AT&T does with the money. All they know is that they receive continued service in exchange, the same as a church.

By Little Right of Center

June 28, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Watcher (1:56)

Was it not Clinton and the left ban personal ownership of some firearms?

Is it not the left that is pushing the ‘fairness doctrine’?

Is it not the left that wants to do away with the tax cuts? Is it not the left that has proposed the highest tax increase in the history of our country?

Bosch, (1:57) Pay attention to what your party is doing and just maybe you’ll learn something. And you are correct that Jesus does not REQUIRE 10% but he did ‘suggest’ 10%.

w00t (2:00) No one has ever said you have to ‘pay’ to go to church except for the Catholics. Ever try and attend a Catholic school when the parents are not giving at least 10% to the ‘church’? Fluff in public schools is teaching the teacher’s opinion while ignoring hard facts. I wanted my kids to know HOW to learn, to look at whatever information is at hand and know how to interpret that information. Not just memorize today’s hot ‘fact’.

AmVet(2:23) Where did I say ‘give nothing for American roads….”? Keep spinning what I said so you have something to b!tch about. I do not have a problem supporting our government, local, state and federal. I just have a problem with them getting more of my earnings than I do when I’m the one working for it. I have a good grasp of how our ‘democratic republic works’. I also understand how socialism works and the left is leading the way there.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

“liberal media” paranoia

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Raisedanidiot,
You shouldn’t be so hard on your parents, I’m sure they tried. Remember the old honor thy father and mother thing? You should really change your name too because you may have been raised an idiot, but your not one now. How about LiberalLesbian or something like that :-)

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Funny how all you hellbound liberals have such a problem with giving money to a church. How else do you expect them to pay their bills, pay staff and operational costs, by magic?

By Paul

June 28, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

mm

Well, sorry about the “liberal” characterization. It seems most of the types of comments you made are usually made here by self-identified liberals, of the uber variety. Many here have difficulty with the concept of “Independent” (although more and more are showing up here). I think it confuses them when they can’t pigeonhole people or can’t say “you believe “this” on issue “A” so you must believe “that” on issue “b”.”

United Way’s great. Zip overhead. Plus you can designate the charity to receive your gift.

The church I attend (not a member, just attend) supports an orphanage in Nigeria. Also a home for abandoned, young girls in Peru. Nice use of money, in my mind. Your point is well taken - just ask “where does the money go?”

Just don’t ask gov’t. It’ll make you cringe.

By w00t

June 28, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Ok, LROC, what is an opinion in Public School?

Maybe your idea of an Opinion is a well known fact held in high regard by numerous peers of their particular subject.

Maybe it’s something that doesn’t agree with you or your religion?

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Um, LROC, I have no party. I’m an Independent. Who is this “left” you keep speaking of? Seriously, dude, you need to lay off the pipe, it’s making you paranoid.

Where in the Bible or any other Christian text does Jesus Christ say that? I’ve obviously missed something. Like that damn meeting.

So, tell me how does socialism work? I’d really like to know.

If you are teaching your kids the type of “facts” you are spewing off here, I think someone needs to call DFACS. Geez. You are raising little future fascists.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

[Anti-Immigrant Ads Produced Outside U.S.A. Say it isn’t so but it looks like a conservative video site, Hotair.com, may be outsourcing and offshoring its videos opposing the immigration bill being debated in the Senate. If you look carefully at this TV commercial-style spot, the telephone has a sticker which appears to show a European Union-wide number for emergency assistance, 112. I think I can even see the circle of stars on a blue background that is a symbol of the EU.] (http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/06/hot-air-outsourcing-anti-amnesty.html)

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Yeah, w00t, what do those stupid teachers know anyway.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Paul,

“The church I attend (not a member, just attend)” Embrace your Episcopalianism! It’s okay brother!

:-)

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Bosch and getalife: same two morons.

By Little Right of Center

June 28, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot (2:49) You have my sympathy, claiming to have idiots for parents. Obviously the nut did not fall far from the tree.
Those children you feel soooo sorry for are currently attending Emory University for their undergraduate degree.
Caesar can have what he is entitled to but not 30% or higher. And yes it IS the left in Pelosi and the like that are pushing the ‘fairness doctrine’.

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Bosch for President!!…thanks for the thought bosch, but I thought my name was pretty clever, reminds me where I came from..yes, my parents tried…they tried to make me just like them, and I suppose all parents do that to some extent. nowhere near the center: we are neither a true republic or democratic…and I doubt very seriously you know much about socialism or you wouldn’t be so frightened of it. If you’d stop just regurgitating what you hear in church and just apply some thought…who knows…

By @@

June 28, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

I tried your disinvest.org and got zilch.

I googled “disinvest.org” and had to wade through pages and pages of “divestIsrael” sites.

I then googled “disinvest+Iran” and stumbled on your guy Dick Morris and his article on pension funds.

Thanks though. Buy Danish and I were on that one several months back. We discussed it at RW’s place.

I’m not convinced that the American people would want the federal government telling them what to do with their money. I like the initiative that the states are taking. More media coverage of the potential for success would help to inform and empower people.

The husband (equal half) has checked into our investments and he’s comfortable in knowing that they aren’t contributing to Iran.

Back to the garden. I’ve got okra to cut.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Dear Idiot Bush, NOPE! Try again. I’m my own person.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Bosch

A bit of ritualism is a good thing. I’m just not quite so literal on points of doctrine. But I judge more on the results - and the good they do is tremendous.

Reminded me of that two-part PBS show a month or so back on Mormonism. They interviewed a New Orleans guy. Said he used to chase Mormon missionaries off his porch. Then the flood hit. He said within hours Mormon volunteers were scouring the streets in his neighborhood, assisting people and passing out food and supplies. He said he still wasn’t going to become a Mormon - but he would invite the missionaries in for something to eat and drink.

Results. Most of which you never hear about.

By Silver Surfer

June 28, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

@@,

Oh my God!!! You mean someone actually married you? Tell me, what drugs was he on? They must be some powerful sh!t!

By @@

June 28, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Oops, sorry that 3:17 was intended for Paul.

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The devil himself will feed you if it will get you to join him. Mormons believe in the deification of man, that’s something else you don’t hear about.

By The Watcher

June 28, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

*Was it not Clinton and the left ban personal ownership of some firearms?

You’ve changed, last time you said ALL. Now do your homework and find a list of the weapons that were banned, the ban by the way was left to expire. Do you keep assault weapons in your home?

*Is it not the left that is pushing the ‘fairness doctrine’?

Nope, not even close. What you are seeing is Republicans screaming that the Democrats want a return to the Fairness Doctrine in order to stir up the last of the base. The radical right is trying to scare you again. It appears to be working.

*Is it not the left that wants to do away with the tax cuts? Is it not the left that has proposed the highest tax increase in the history of our country?

Heck, that wasn’t even in your original post you sneaky devil. Do your homework and you will find that yes, we want the only tax cuts given during war time, and only to the highest earners rescinded. You might also find the very recent study that points out that those tax cuts = our incredible deficit.

You are going to have to provide some stats on that highest tax increase blurb….I have seen right wing sites claim this only to mean the reversal of the above.

What chapter is that Jesus suggested 10% thing in?

You are still not supporting your rants with real sources.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

@@

Sorry for the misunderstanding - it’s disinvestterror.org

Link: Disinvest Terror

It’s not just disinvesting from Iran, it’s from companies that do business with Iran.

American people didn’t seem too upset about disinvesting from South Africa. In spite of all the hardship it caused. Unintended consequences, again!

Alton Brown did a show on okra last week - might still be on foodtv.com

By w00t

June 28, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Emory?? Are you sure that was a safe idea LROC? I mean, they might turn into Li-Li-Liberals if they’re not careful! OHNOES! It might have been a better idea to send them to Regent University where they could get a safe, clean education free from all that liberal science mumbo-jumbo.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

JFK’s speech writer wrote a speech for the Dem nominee

w’s disasters will take a real leader to fix.

God save America †

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Okay, LROC, you are talking about the Fairness Doctrine, why didn’t you just say so? Um, that’s totally different than saying that the left is trying to silence free speech.

Believe me, not all liberals agree with the Democratic push for this. We need those idiot talk show hosts to spout their venom. Remember there can be no good without evil.

I’m also waiting for your proof about Jesus and tithing.

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

To all heathens bent on keeping the church broke: The word tithe means “tenth part”. Hebrews 7:5, commands it, and Jesus does to: Matthew 24.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Dear George

Actually, I’ve read a bit about it. They seem to me, aside from Roman Catholics, to have some of the most consistent, expansive doctrine of most faiths. Progression - spiritual - continues. Most protestants don’t worry too much about the afterlife. It’s all quite nebulous. Some of the anti-evolutionists are happy, ‘cause when you die, they think everything stops. Go figure.

Part of their faith does fit in with my libertarian streak, though. It’s along the lines of “We think anybody should be able to worship whatever they want, whenever they want, whereever they want. We’d just like others to grant us the same.” In other words - you do what you want. I do what I want. So leave me alone.

Sounds okay to me -

PS - let’s not get going on a religion thing, again, okay? But I will say - we had some literalists discussing “Hell” the other day. Fire and torture and stuff (Mormons don’t believe in “Hell” either). You can thank the Persians for that literal concept. See? They’ve been causing trouble and fear for a long time.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

The Watcher, Oh my God, you mean that the Fairness Doctrine issue is the Republicans doing? Seriously, I haven’t been keeping up on that too much, don’t really care. Let the idiots like Rush and Coulter spew their venom, I don’t have to listen to it.

Paul, I was just kidding you about the church thing. Our church does alot of stuff like that too.

Okra? Did someone say okra? Fried okra, I hope, boiled okra is an abomination! Yuck.

By Deleted!

June 28, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

{{{{{By Ann Coulter June 28, 2007 8:04 AM

Look in the mirror, mikey.

You are the boring little Bush obsessed bomb thrower confined to the pages of a has been socialist propaganda rag.

I am the rich, popular one, with millions in book sales and public appearences, that makes you liberals whine.

Whine on cue.

So whine already.}}}}}

I guess you Democrats aren’t in favor of that whole First Amendment idea.

No Fox debates, no talk radio, delete comments that you don’t like.

Brave.

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

You attend church? “You hear that Elizabeth? I’m coming to join you honey! With a hypocrite named Bosch at my side!”

By AmVet

June 28, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

{What chapter is that Jesus suggested 10% thing in?}

Watcher, as you already know, there isn’t one.

But if you’ve ever been to a Jewish Temple, you’ll know that you have to pay to play!

Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the law in which all Israelites were give 10% of everything they earned and grew to the Tabernacle / Temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5). Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites of the sacrificial system.

But later it wasn’t Jesus of Nazareth, it was actually that good old reprobate turned apostle, Paul.

The New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. Paul states that believers should set aside a portion of their income in order to support the church (1 Corinthians 16:1-2).

Just trying to help.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Bosch

We’ve had a fill-in priest since the other left to form a new Anglican group. The fill-in’s a canon. Incredibly bright, law degree, early church career made use of his talents. He’s great to listen to on this whole Episcopalian-Anglican thing. I like his sermons - lots of practical application to everyday life as well as a few concepts that are pretty close to Unity.

I’ll consider the Presidency thing - as a high-paid consultant - only if you pipe ABBA throughout the West Wing and EOB. Pentagon, too - it’d do’em some good.

By Barbara Bush

June 28, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Georgie after all that training we got you - you can’t get this right either?

THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ST MATTHEW CHAPTER 24

Maria, I said olives not onions. Get in here and fix this damn Martini.

Anyway, Georgie was trained to be a good little conservative. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus all day long. Cocaine and tequila all night. Six nights of playing and one night of fun. Yes, his odds of going to heaven are six to one!

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

regarding…By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Legal Memo Confirms White House Led Effort To Target And Remove U.S. Attorneys

can someone answer, doesn’t the WH have to give reason for executive privilege…can they just say its my ball and I’m going home, or what?

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

George, I’m a Christian, not a Jew. I go by the teachings of Jesus, not Abraham.

Me a hypocrit? You see, I’m an actual Christian - I don’t worship the teachings of St. Paul (sorry, blogger Paul), or practice the Jewish traditions.

Where in Matthew 24 does Jesus talk about tithing? Are you mistaken and are you maybe thinking of Matthew 23 where Jesus is yelling at the Pharasees because they are more interested in their tithes (yes, I know what tithe means, duh) and clean plates, “but within they are full of extortion and excess?”

Hmmm, I wonder if that’s what you mean?

See, I can quote Bible verses with the best of them. The other Bosch is a recent graduate of seminary.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Your priest sounds just like mine! Sometimes at the end of his sermons I want to jump up and say “Oh Hell Yeah Brother” really loud, but I don’t.

Alright on the President thing. ABBA? You got it, hell, I’ll even throw in some Electric Light Orchestra too. And remember Belgian Ales are the National drink, and soccer is the national sport!

By AmVet

June 28, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Good news for all Americans!

The bald eagle, America’s national symbol, is flying high after spending three decades in recovery. On Thursday, the government took the eagle off the Endangered Species Act’s “threatened” list.

“The eagle has returned,” Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne told government officials, wildlife conservationists and journalists at a ceremony held on the steps of the Jefferson Memorial in Washington.

“Today is an opportunity to celebrate and draw inspiration,” Kempthorne added.

“We do have 1,300 species that have been listed and our recovery rate is about 1 percent. I would like to see us have more days like this when we can announce success and victory and delisting of species.”

By Dictionary

June 28, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

C-SPAN Congressional Glossary Term Definition Used In Executive Privilege EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE refers to the assertion made by the President or other executive branch officials when they refuse to give Congress, the courts, or private parties information or records which have been requested or subpoenaed, or when they order government witnesses not to testify before Congress. The assertion is based on the constitutional doctrine of separation of powers, is always controversial, subject to interpretation, and often litigated.

Also from “Things that are not in the US Constitution”

Executive privilege is a right to withhold information from the legislative and judicial branches by the President or by one of the executive departments. There is question of whether the right exists at all, a question that has lingered since the very first President, George Washington, asserted executive privilege in his very first term. Most times, executive privilege is asserted for purported national security reasons. Washington, however, asserted the privilege when the House requested details of the Jay Treaty - his rationale is that the House has no role in treaty-making and hence no right to request the documents. In modern times, Bill Clinton refused to simply comply with an order to appear before a grand jury, and instead negotiated terms under which he would appear. Richard Nixon’s is the most infamous use of executive privilege, and while the Supreme Court, in U.S. v Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974), recognized that there exists a need for some secrecy in the executive branch, but that the secrecy cannot be absolute. The Court ordered Nixon to turn over tapes and documents that a special prosecutor had subpoenaed. More recently, the minutes and records of Vice President Dick Cheney’s energy task force were requested and denied based on executive privilege. This case made its way to the Supreme Court, but is still active.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Luckodull’s right - the people here are really gonna hate ‘08!

By Paul

June 28, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

AmVet

That is truly good news.

[[I would like to see us have more days like this when we can announce success and victory and delisting of species]]

Does that include neocons?

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

Thanks for the scripture correction. I was referring to Matt 23:23. Yes, Jesus was fussing at them because of their lack of love and informing them that they should pay tithes, but they were missing it on some other issues.

Also, its not about worshipping St. Paul. Its about worshipping the whole counsel of God(The Bible), not just the parts we like. God inspired Paul just like every other author so therefore his writings are just as important.

P.S. Sorry about the hypocrite remark. My point to some of the idiots on the blog was that there is a place in the Bible were Jesus condones paying tithes.

By Lord Help Us

June 28, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Why do networks that might otherwise be reputable, denigrate themselves by inviting this twisted, foul-mouthed fraud on their ‘news’ programs.

What a salient and shameful example of the dumbing down of our society.

I am forced to watch Fox and Friends in my gym and cannot believe how much play is given to Paris, Ann, Britney, Rosie, Michael Jackson, etc. each morning at the expense of REAL news.

The others are only marginally better, but cheapen themselves everytime they invite someone on whose only value is ‘shock’ value…nothing of value to any debate of any issue…just shameless Jerry Springer, train wreck, sensationalized crap.

BTW: Speaking of shameless Jerry Springer, traing wreck crap…what happened to the deranged moron?

By ajc censors conservatives but not perverts

June 28, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Good catch Deleted! @ 3:41.

By AmVet

June 28, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Ha! Paul! I like that we can jab at each other, but still remain civil! And your good humor is really refreshing!

Yes, my hours of “research” lead me to conclude that the common American short-necked neo-con is probably headed for extinction. But I can’t say if it’s from global warming or NASA!

And I hope the loons on the far left are headed for the same fate, but am not as optimistic.

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Dear King George…I think once again you’re missing the point…Jesus was supposed to have come to abolish the law and establish a new covenant…one of love. Jesus was not actually advocating tithing, but was admonishing the hypocrits to major on the majors and minor on the minors. I’m sure Jesus had nothing against tithing, but he just wasn’t big on money issues period. He went where money wasn’t important, and seemed to have some disdain for the “money changers” and those that focused on the letter of the law. So I contend that Jesus would have said, tithe if you want, but thats not whats important. Yes?

By George W. Bush

June 28, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

raisedanidiot,

No. Go back and look at his parables and count how many of them related to money. I’m not saying finances is more imprtant than love and the other things he taught, but I’m sick and tired of folks always trying to downplay the role money plays in the bible and in our lives. The only time they do that is when it comes to the church. The flip side of that would be the “moneychangers” who put money ahead of the other important things, such as prayer.

Jesus wouldn’t have used finances to illustrate most of his parables if it wasn’t important. People use that excuse because they don’t want to give it to the church.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Wingnuts Denounce “Tin-Foil Hat” Liberals While Embracing Paranoid Conspiracy Theories

Geez.

By @@

June 28, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Kansas AG to Prosecute Abortion Provider

(((Morrison, who supports abortion rights, said Thursday that Kline’s charges were “incorrect and based on a political agenda” and insisted that his own case “was not about politics or pursuing a personal agenda.”)))

Whatever you say Mr. Morrison, but I tend to believe it was the “BO” that forced you to move.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

AmVet

Didn’t mean it as a jab, really! Just struck me as too good to pass up.

The neocon thing: global warming or NASA? It’s neither. They just flat don’t reproduce. Look at Coulter and Perle. Feith may be an exception. But he refuses to get a blood test to confirm or deny.

Loons are different. They fly around, frolic in the water and definitely reproduce. By a variety of means.

Both are wound way too tight -

By AmVet

June 28, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

LHU,

Re: you 4:15. So true.

But let’s face it, if that crap wasn’t popular, it wouldn’t be on.

To me it’s incredulous that the stuff that passes for news, much less “entertainment”, is regarded so favorably by so many of our fellow citizens! It is truly mind-boggling and for me it has always been a source of great concern.

Much of it, in my opinion, is because the American people are so readily and happily manipulated.

How else can you explain that Budweiser is the King of Beers?! King of Swill maybe, but that wouldn’t sell as well. (Sorry, I’m a confessed beer snob!)

But the marketing types just keep pounding it in people’s brains and before long they actually believe that Joe Camel is a good guy, even a friend.

All of us have the power to choose. And though its hard to escape the ever-present garbage out there, one can to a large extent, do so if they simply try. And I’ve simply chosen to discount the VAST percentage of what I’m exposed to. I’ve been called a contrarian for doing so, but I will not be used.

And as my musical hero Todd Rundgren says: The TV blows, the music sucks…

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

The ‘Fairness Doctrine’ Myth: Right Wing Falsely Claims Progressives Want To Resurrect Mandatory Balance

{{{The report argues instead that we should address the more significant problem of concentrated ownership and ineffective regulation in order to push the market structure to better meet local needs. As report co-author John Halpin stated, “If we break up concentrated ownership, and encourage greater local accountability over radio licensing, and still end up with lots of conservative talk, then so be it. We don’t think this will happen but at least the playing field would have been made more level.”

The CAP/Free Press report argues for more speech, not less. Conservatives should get their facts straight before blindly attacking others.}}}

By getalife

June 28, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

“Two weeks after penning a column calling for the United States to respond to terrorists by “invad[ing] their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity,” the conservative commentator has been fired by National Review Online.”

You have to be a real whack job to get fired from the NRO.

Geez.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Dictionary 4:03

Thanks. That was an informative read.

getalife

The best one was Rosie with her Twin Towers/CIA thing. Now her little kid’s running around playing with toy machine gun belts. I read the comments from her fans on her web site - you think you get some off the charts comments here - you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet -

By raisedanidiot

June 28, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Georgie Porgie, are you seriously contending that money was important to Jesus (according to the bible that is)? Just because he used money in illustrations doesn’t mean squat. Why would Jesus need money? It isn’t God that needs money its the church…organized religion is nothing more than another big business used to control the masses…all of that requires a lot of money I suppose. You go ahead and throw all of that oil money you’ve got away if you want…I’d rather use my money to actually help the people who need it.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

””“Another key number in the new Fox News poll we noted below: Bush’s approval rating sank to 31%.

That’s the lowest ever in Fox polling. Yes, in Fox polling. His previous low was 33%.

Bush can take solace from one thing, however: He’s doing way better than Paris Hilton. She checks in with a favorability rating of seven percent.”“”

AND

This has to be a first. In its new poll, Fox News asked what may well be the ultimate in jingoistic, rally-around-the-flag questions — and the Democrats came out on top. If there is an all-out war between the United States and various radical Muslim groups worldwide, who would you rather have in charge — Democrats or Republicans? Democrats 41% Republicans 38% Both the same (not listed) 9% Don’t know (not listed) 12%

Granted, the result is within the poll’s three-point margin of error, so we can’t say with certainty that the Dems have a lead here. But really, this bespeaks truly terrible times for the GOP.

By Dusty

June 28, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Well, lotsa trash here today.

But it has convinced me of one thing, some forms of censorship are a benefit. Take rushncap!! Take him far away!! Throw him into the heap of muck that he throws here every day. There!! I feel better.

For the rest of you who have spent the day playing fiddle-de-de over Ann Coulter, stop listening. Like rushncap, skip over it.

Luckovich is losing it, just like liberals in Congress. Just like liberals here who can only make illusionary unfounded remarks or copy some line out of context.

For the rest of you sleeping beauties who advocate everything “liberal” and then say “What are you talking about? Liberals don’t have a book of rules?” Yeah, like sheep don’t have wool, etc. etc. etc. Some books are unwritten and some come from DNC.

And last but not least, if a small percentage of you did as much good work as @@, this world would be a better place. She is just as honest and compassionate as she sounds and then she lives it out. That’s even better than getting degrees from seminary. (Well, usually. I have a friend who is a professor in a seminary in Philadelphia. He is all things good.)

By @@

June 28, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

I’ve always wanted to ask this question. I’ve chosen you to answer it.

Creationism/Evolution, they both deserve to be heard. The question has never been significant for me.

If say, you believe in evolution, you would have to accept the BIG BANG theory and that the planet and all living beings on the planet were a result of “an accident”. Is it possible that there are other planets where things evolved differently?

In other words…do you believe in aliens? or do you put the tinfoil hat down on that one out of fear you might have a close encounter with a shrink?

I’m just curious.

By Famous right wingers

June 28, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

A whole bunch of those right wing bloviators have come out whining about the return of the Fairness Doctrine just this week.

Some of the most egregious right wing neocon slime artists that have called for it’s return by name in the last few days are Diane Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, & Dick Durbin.

Damn neocons!

By Lord Help Us

June 28, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

@@, (‘scuse me GLife)

Yes…Creationism should be ‘heard’…in Church.

And, Evolution should be ‘heard’…in the science classrooms of our schools.

Now, for your educational benefit…the origin of the universe is quite different from the origin of life on THIS PLANET (which constitutes a teeny, tiny, eentsy, weentsy part of the entire universe).

Now in answer to the bizarre second question…I will believe in aliens when the science behind the existence of aliens (or any form of life on other planets) is as sound as the science behind the origin of the universe and the origin of life on this planet.

That clear.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

In The News 4:40

You may want to read the report. I did a while back, unfortunately, I don’t still have the link.

Sites like Think Progress (be they Left or Right) will often pull what advances their agenda (the Ann Coulter “quote” is a good example) or repeat verbatim, without any critical analysis (Prius pollutes more than Hummer H1) is another good example.

Just reading the report, without any preconceptions, can lead to wondering it the “concentrated ownership” is really a smokescreen for political motivation. Talk radio with conservative domination is an AM radio phenomenon. Extend that to broadcast tv (public airwaves, licenses - is it all that different?) but there we have hard denials that it’s anything but ‘neutral’ (about that bridge in Brooklyn I’m gonna sell ya’).

Then look at the authors - background, education, what drove the study, the definitions and criteria used (the “O Reilly calls names” is a great example).

So far I view it as another political exercise wherein the only way to counter an idea is to limit its expression. The fact Rep Trent Lott is on the bandwagon over frustration with the Immigration Bill just strengthens my opinion.

By Bosch

June 28, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Dusty, Surely you didn’t mean that degrees from seminaries are worthless, surely not. Surely you didn’t mean to mock those who actually study the Bible and theology in an academic setting and apply their knowledge to their everyday lives. I know you didn’t mean that.

George, I know that this might be difficult for you, but there are some Christians who don’t take the Bible literally, those that do are called fundamentalists, and I am not one. Between my mother and my spouse, I know more about the Bible than most, not a Biblical scholar, but I know the difference between Paul and Jesus. That verse in Matthew (23:23), Jesus is yelling at the Pharasees because they care more about the money than the love of God. He is actually blasting tithing, or at least, that’s how I read it.

And fundamentals are the most skilled at cherry picking the Bible to fit their needs, judge others accordingly, and justify their intolerance.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

@@,

I really do not care how we got here but do care about where we are going.

There are illegal aliens and shrinks would kick me out of their office.

Now, I have a question for you ex CEO.

Did you outsource American jobs to China?

Pinko.

By @@

June 28, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

LHU:

(((That clear?)))

I’m assuming you meant to put a question mark behind ^^^ that.

My answer?

As a bell….DING DONG. (ISH)

I’m off to play the part of a penguin at VBS.

By Paul

June 28, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Tonight’s Democratic debate is on PBS from 9-10:30 pm Eastern Time.

I’m interested if any of them have any concrete proposals about immigration.

Or if the questions are ever going to get half as tough as Fox/Wallace did with the Republican candidates.

And why are Dodd, Gravel and Kucinich still getting air time?

By Bumper Sticker

June 28, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Deport All of the Illegal Aliens Back to Their Own Galaxy!

By Lord Help Us

June 28, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

@@, your assumption is as meaningless as your question.

But, hey, if you can’t articulate a logical response, just obfuscate.

Why do I even bother…

By rushncap

June 28, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Did Dusters have an aneurism?

LHU - right on. I would be very curious to see if we detect any extra-terrestrial lifeforms in my lifetime. I’d probably lay 60-40 against it, but you never know.

By Dusty

June 28, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

bosch,

Indeed Bosch, I do not mock those who attend Seminary. My pastor is a Doctor of Divinity and so are several other friends.

I am saying that a good life is just that whether you attend seminary or not. Seminaries are usually the finest in academe but they are not a guarantee of becoming “saintly”. That depends on the person.

I have been fortunate to attend churches with very fine ministers. They were held in high esteem but unfortunately we also hear of those who “fall aside”.

Today I worked on a project with a woman minister (not my own pastor) who is a pleasure and a joy. She shines. But I think the last thing she would want anyone to say is “I know you are a Christian because you went to seminary.”

By PROP IS LYING AGAIN

June 28, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Now that you can finally get to PROP’s 2:28 link you’ll find that Ann Coulter never even mentioned Elizabeth Edwards, much less called her a harridan.

Here’s a much more honest assessment of what was said and a spot on analysis of the Edwards operation

By what

June 28, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

susan 9:08 vituperative utterings nice!

By A Coulter

June 28, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

To the apologist at 6:29.

Thank you so much. If not for brave good looking Republican men like yourself and Sean Hannity, I would not have the fabulous success I am currently enjoying.

And I hope to very much further the national dialogue with hate-mongering, epithets, slurs, outright lies, O’Reilly-like spin, straw men, red herrings and ad hominem attacks on the liberal scum.

Pt is what I do best! Now be a good American and go buy my books!

By what

June 28, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Just wondering.Do any of you have real jobs?

By what

June 28, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Guess not.

By getalife

June 28, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

I should visit Hot air more often:

Tommy Chong on Fox

w is a moron.

Hilarious.

By who

June 28, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

what——-The Conservatives here appear to have real jobs since they only come and go at break times or after work.

The Liberals all work for the government so they can blog all day every day. I guess that qualifies as a real job but just barely.

By IN THE NEWS

June 28, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

TO THE YOUNG LADY AT 6:29

I DO NOT LIE.

I POST ‘EM AS I READS THEM. REBUTTALS WELCOME. ALWAYS SOURCED.

””“POLITICAL DISCUSSION GOOD”“”

COMPLAIN TO THE SOURCE

HECK I PUT YOU RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR COMPUTER!

By Rudy

June 28, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

You jus gotta love it. All the Republiscum hatemongers, so mopposed to anything and everything new, progressive, different, better, intelligent, fair, decent and a host of other good qualities, are now angered about the immigration bill. Solely because their little and/or massive political trickery didn’t work this time around. They pretended to substitute fake compassion for their usual and constant hatred, bitterness, jealousey, failuritis, inner/outer uglinesses of all kinds, and this time it didn’t work. This particular attempt to screw the nation failed. How so. I live with 800,000 of these self-proclaimed “exiles” and witness all day, every day their contribution (s) to our local society. Their totally self-serving, “I deserve it” lifestyles and attitudes. A magnificent city now turned into a Crime Center. How did the Repubscum manage this one??? Beautiful.

By Side-view mirror bumper sticker

June 28, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this

{what——-The Conservatives here APPEAR to have real jobs…}

Warning. Conservatives work less than they appear to.

By @@

June 28, 2007 11:14 PM | Link to this

(((By Lord Help Us June 28, 2007 6:12 PM)))

(((Why do I even bother…)))

Am I supposed to answer ^^^ that one too. O.K.

I don’t know.

Getalife:

Did I outsource American jobs to China?

Hu knows…

;-)