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DEL.ICIO.USGetting to the promised phone
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By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
The Atlanta Urinal doesn’t say a word today, not one word about the US Iraqi joint offensive operations in Baqouba:
{{{Three-day Iraq toll: 15 U.S. troops, Baghdad —- The U.S. military announced 14 more troop deaths in Iraq, including five killed Thursday in a single roadside bombing in Baghdad.-Urinal}}}
The only “news” they report on are three day old headlines that they missed, probably because they were stoned or some other pervert thing.
Atlanta Journal Constitution: Do you not know of this major military operation, are you trying to censor it or are you afraid Al Qaeda’s backing here in America may be damaged by reporting on it:
{{{A positive indicator on the 19th and the 20th is that most local people apparently are happy that al Qaeda is being trapped and killed. Civilians are pointing out IEDs and enemy fighters, so that’s not working so well for al Qaeda. Clearly, I cannot do a census, but that says something about the locals.}}}
Which one is it, stupidity or censorship?
American People: Ask yourself which side of this fight the Atlanta Journal Constitution is on, if they really cared about our soldiers do you truly believe they would be Al Qaeda Mouthpieces, propaganda tools of the cut throat terrorists?
Stupid filthy Coward liberals, P’sOS.
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From the Urinal’s Vent section:
{{{After reading about Salman Rushdie today, I realized that people who would kill an author because they don’t like his book are not good candidates for democracy.}}}
Umm, O.K:
{{{BOXER/CLINTON WANT ‘LEGISLATIVE FIX’ FOR CONSERVATIVE TALKRADIO}}}
There are several different ways to make what you don’t like to hear be silent.
Abusing the power of the government is one of them.
Duh.
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{{{So it’s smooth sailing for Hillary, right? No one questions her intelligence……}}}
Are you freaking kidding me?
This is the same “woman” that said she spoke another language because she put a fake drawl in her speech while pandering to rednecks.
This is one of the dimmest people alive, “her” temper is legendary and stupid mindless fits of violence are a sure sign of ignorance not intelligence.
She’s no better then your typical Islamic suicide
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this
Ooops:
She’s no better then your typical Islamic suicide bomber.
Geez.
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By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
MORNING LUCKODULL
YOUR DAILY POSTS MOVE MORE PEOPLE THAN A STRONG CUP OF COFFEE AND A CIGARETTE!
HOPE ALL THE FOLKS IN YOUR HEAD GET SOME REST THIS WEEKEND.
By Fair is Fair
June 22, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this
””“By Buy Danish June 21, 2007 7:45 PM I don’t know how many times you idiot Moonbats have to be told that “Rev”. Fred Phelps is one of yours, but apparently you are very slow learners.”“”
Let me begin by saying yes, the sick man known as Fred Phelps had a history of being a democrat. Hell, so did John Wayne Gacy. (That SOB killed one of my little brothers buddies)
However, the right wing has had their fair share of loonies.
Think Eric Robert Rudolph ever supported anybody other than a Republican?
Timothy McVeigh was a registered Republican.
Ted Bundy worked in Republican campaigns.
Ted Kaczynski’s manifesto raged against “leftists”.
David Berkowitz called himself a born again Christian…probably right wing don’t you think.
Only the truly dense think their “side” is perfect.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this
How was 9/11 “a wake up call for Muslims”? If one heard that phrase without reading this article, one might think that it meant that moderate voices were needed to overwhelm the fanatics.
Nope. That’s not it at all:
[Some who wear the niqab, particularly younger women who have taken it up recently, concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity, which they have embraced since Sept. 11, 2001, as a form of rebellion against the policies of the Blair government in Iraq and at home./”For me it is not just a piece of clothing, it’s an act of faith, it’s solidarity,” said a 24-year-old program scheduler at a broadcasting company in London, who would allow only her last name, Al Shaikh, to be printed, saying she wanted to protect her privacy. “9/11 was a wake-up call for young Muslims,” she said].(http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=6263112)
Clearly this oppressive and often voluntariy subjugation of women is incompatible with liberty, with human rights and with “progress”, yet the biggest defenders of this behavior will be “Progressives”.
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
DO HILLARY AND TRENT’VACANT” LOTT AGREE?
{{{The Republican whip, Trent Lott of Mississippi, who supports the bill, said: “Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem.”
At some point, Mr. Lott said, Senate Republican leaders may try to rein in “younger guys who are huffing and puffing against the bill.”
NYT 6/15/07
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
Fair is Fair,
What a lame and childish comment.
The point is that an idiot Moonbat is posting as the vile “Reverend” Phelps with the clear intention of pinning his group’s despicable actions on conservatives.
Clearly the ignoramus who is doing this assumes that the “Reverend” is a Republican.
You, however, are too freaking stupid to figure that out and immediately came up with a list of every serial killer you can think of who is rumored to be a Republican, as if that juvenile exercise wins some sort of debating points.
By Mike
June 22, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
Let’s see. Congress’s approval rating fell to 14%, a historic low. Despite this, Mikey still has yet to draw a single cartoon addressing this Congress.
Hey Mikey, are you “living in a bubble”? When are you going to start “speaking truth to power”? What will happen if a Dem wins the white house? Publish blank squares?
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this
Woops, let me try that link again -
Some who wear the niqab, particularly younger women who have taken it up recently, concede that it is a frontal expression of Islamic identity, which they have embraced since Sept. 11, 2001, as a form of rebellion against the policies of the Blair government in Iraq and at home./”For me it is not just a piece of clothing, it’s an act of faith, it’s solidarity,” said a 24-year-old program scheduler at a broadcasting company in London, who would allow only her last name, Al Shaikh, to be printed, saying she wanted to protect her privacy. “9/11 was a wake-up call for young Muslims,” she said
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
{{{By IN THE PROPAGANDA June 22, 2007 8:10 AM HOPE ALL THE FOLKS IN YOUR HEAD GET SOME REST THIS WEEKEND.}}}
GOOD MORNING TO YOU TOO, PROP.
I never rest and in fact, the very suggestion is repulsive to me, I do not love the bed.
Plus, there are always sick, disgusting pervert liberal Cowards out spreading their anti American hate, would it kill you P’sOS to take a break every now and again?
Therefore, see Wooten’s blog tomorrow, where I will pop in on occasion and wear your sniveling Coward as-ses out.
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By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
Salman Rushdie is Knighted, Muslims around the demand violent reprisals, and idiotic members of the British Government express regret not over the call to violence, but over the “offensive” act of Knighting Rushdie.
As reported today by The Daily Telegraph, the scale of protests provoked a Cabinet split between Margaret Beckett, the Foreign Secretary, and John Reid, the Home Secretary./While Mr Reid said Britain would refuse to apologise, Mrs Beckett openly expressed regret for any offence caused by the knighthood./Privately, some Labour MPs have privately said they are baffled at the decision to honour Sir Salman now and have blamed it on the continuing “power vacuum” caused by the extended Blair/Brown handover at Downing Street./Lord Ahmed, a senior Labour Muslim peer, has also called for the award of the knighthood to be put “on hold”./In the Commons yesterday, Jack Straw, a key Brown ally, also said he understood “the concerns and sensitivity” in the Muslim community.
Later…
By Fair Is Fair
June 22, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
What a petulant and vile response!
No one missed the point of your post last night. We just think beyond it and expand the concept.
By the way is it really necessary for the “idiot” or “too freaking stupid”?
Can you communicate your distaste with a bit more maturity please? It would give your arguments more weight if they were offered in the manner of a courteous adult.
By Blog Addiction Center
June 22, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
Andy please you need help. You need sleep. You need to get off the computer.
Computer addiction has done more damage to the American family than gays have. In fact computer addiction is an abomination.
YOUR FAMILY MISSES YOU!
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
Yeah! A new cartoon! Good morning everyone! It’s Friday!!!!
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
{{{By Fair is Fair June 22, 2007 8:13 AM Ted Kaczynski’s manifesto raged against “leftists”.}}}}
What a total dullard^^.
1) Obviously, every name on that list is some sort of mental defective, you don’t solve your problems by committing mass murder, so is this idiot FiF saying that mass murderers are intelligent and capable of choosing a stupid political party?
2) Al Qaeda commits mass murder everyday, Hamas would love to if they weren’t such stupid bumbling Cowards, Castro has killed thousands of his people, why are you pinko liberals always on their side? Do you approve of their actions?
3) The Atlanta Journal Constitution refuses to publish good results of America’s fight against mass murder, why is that? Do you approve of it? Do you choose not to be a mouth piece for America?
4) Isn’t it amazing how an obscure political blog attracts so many liberal “veterans,” lesbians that lose their children to “Republican evil doing” and now we have famous crime victims?
What a coincidence.
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By Goldie
June 22, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
I’m always amazed that every year we produce a new “gotta have it” with tiny phones or bigger videogames, and yet the technology that fuels our cars remains the same after 100 years: our cars are dependent on the black goop that is pulled out of the ground called “oil”… our Big Oil industry and auto industry insist that there is no other viable way to fuel our cars, or that it will take a least another 100 years to develop a new fuel source.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
Good morning Andy, I’m sorry you don’t sleep much, but I thought I’d share my favorite vent with you this morning.
“You use dog shampoo to wash your hair? Around these parts, we just let our cat lick our hair clean.”
Come on now, you can admit, that even made YOU smile just a little.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
Good morning Goldie! I’m in an exceptionally good mood this morning!
You are so right on, sister.
If Howard Hughes were still alive he’d have figured this problem out by now (in between his drug induced stupors).
By Goldie
June 22, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
There are plenty of “former Democrats” who have crossed over to the dark side with the Repugnant Party, such as Zell Miller and Sonny Perdue, to name only two… I’m sure that Fred Phelps, consumed with gay-hatred, would only fit in with the Repugs these days.
As posted by Fair Is Fair @ 8:13 above, you Trolls should be proud of the enormous number of American-haters you have in your Party.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
I guess even editorial cartoonists need breaks from real news.
Good news from yesterday (this one’s for you - reushcap) - Congress (Senate) did something where the good outweighs the bad and it’s actually worthwhile - the energy bill. Finally, an increase in fuel economy standards (35 mpg - that’s a fleet average, not each vehicle. Includes trucks, vans, SUVs). We only have to wait 13 years - but it does take a while to advance the technology and for Americans to change attitudes.
No funding alternate technologies by taxing oil companies. I read a couple articles said it was a new tax, another said it cut oil companies’ subsidies and transferred funding. My gripe - why are the citizens transferring their money to oil companies when they’re making more money than any American companies? Another gripe - paygo problem - get rid of one subsidy/tax break and instead of returning the money to the taxpayers - Congress wants to give it to another compan(ies).
Finally, we’ve seen the problems associated with how gov’t “encourages” ethanol - more money taken from folks and given to agribusiness, intimations of problems with different pollution, shifting of corn from the food chain to the energy chain, resulting in higher food prices (especially milk - you’d think Democrats would start a campaign accusing Reps of heartlessly increasing milk prices for poor families and children to pay off the energy industry. Wait, Dems did it. Maybe Reps could do the commercial. Wait, Reps did it too. See a pattern here?
So Bosch, yes, it’s Friday! No more gloomy comments, except for one: as the people look at Congress, it’s another BOHICA day.
By Mrs. Godzilla
June 22, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
A phone is a phone is a phone….
For me the novelty of cell phones is long gone. All I am interested in is an effective, efficient, reliable communication device. My first little Nokia lasted nearly 8 years….Since then I’ve been through a phone every year or so. Too many bells and whistles for this old dinosaur.
New technology will turn me on when the develop a system for something really useful - like folding laundry.
My water polo game yesterday didn’t work out. I got the horse that couldn’t swim. How about some bocci today?
By Goldie
June 22, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Hey Bosch— yeah, I loved the movie “The Aviator”. It really showed how “thinking outside the box” takes a lot of $$$ (and a lot of ridicule) to get new ideas off the ground, so to speak. I wonder how long it would’ve taken someone to develop satellite technology if we didn’t have a Howard Hughes among us. And I wonder if we might be utilizing that kind of technology to fuel our cars if Howard hadn’t gone off the deep end…
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
{{{By Pervert Addiction Center June 22, 2007 8:38 AM Andy please you need help. You need sleep. You need to get off the computer.}}}
If I choose to not sleep, WTF difference does it make to you?
Have you been appointed to be my guardian?
Are you a nosey, busy body, bedroom peeping weirdo who has no life of your own?
Am I exposing the fraud, utter hypocrisy and blatant treason of liberalism and would you like to silence me, so that I quit making you look so damn bad?
Which one is it?
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By Can't Resist
June 22, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
The Causes, Effects and Dangers of Sleep Deprivation
“”Symptoms Exhaustion, fatigue and lack of physical energy are common sleep deprivation symptoms. Exhaustion and fatigue affect our emotional moods, causing pessimism, sadness, stress and anger. The National Sleep Foundation (NSF) has suggested that social problems such as road rage may be caused, in part, by a national epidemic of sleepiness.”“
That explains a lot.
By Goldie
June 22, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
How scary is Darth Vader Cheney? And do Americans have any chance to get rid of this dictator before ‘08?
Vice President Cheney’s office has refused to comply with an executive order governing the handling of classified information for the past four years and recently tried to abolish the office that sought to enforce those rules, according to documents released by a congressional committee yesterday.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
Goldie 8:45
Remember when the oil company heads were called before Congress? One of them was asked what their plans were for alternative fuels. One responded “we’re in the oil business.”
Some have programs - may be a lot of PR - may be a business decision to catch the wave early on.
People could make a huge impact, though. Just drive along 285 (when it’s not jammed) at the speed limit. See how many cars you pass. Keep it at 60, save 20 percent of your gas compared to going as fast as some people. On a 25 mile trip it takes what, a whole five minutes?
BTW - that’s also equivalent to dropping the price of gas about fifty cents a gallon.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this
Why doesn’t the Atlanta Journal Constitution want you to know about this:
{{{One example: Shiite members of the tribe known as the Bani Tamim are mobilizing in Diyala province east of Baghdad - in cooperation with Sunni tribes. This is an area where U.S. troops are conducting an offensive. Leaders of the Bani Tamim have 5,000 names of tribesmen willing to fight and to protect vital oil pipelines. They want help from the Americans to do the job.}}}
Or this:
{{{Another important example: I recently met Sheikh Ali Hatem Suleiman, who has been acting head of the Dulaim confederation, the largest tribal grouping in Anbar. Last week, he met with 200 tribal leaders in Ramadi, where they formed the Council of Sheikhs in Anbar, which wants to work with the Americans against al-Qaeda.}}}
Is this not important, good news that would help the mission our troops are in if it were broadcast loud and clear?
Wouldn’t other Arab peoples hear this news and start reconsidering their relationship with mass murders and suicide bombers?
Why do you not want us to hear of these things AJC?
Cowards.
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By Blog Addiction Center
June 22, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
Dear AJC.com, its about time that you put a disclaimer of some sorts on your blog. You need legal protection.
Andy is the type that will sue your butts when he has the chance. A statement like they have in casino’s would probably be a good thing.
WARNING: Blogs can be very addictive. If you feel you are loosing control please call our Bloggers Annonymous holine 1-800-ANDYSLAW.
The signs of serious addiction are, Incoherent posts, Irrationality, a misplaced sense of self importance, and changing ones beliefs to fit situation.
You know its serious when the addict resorts to using a signature at the end of their posts to try and bring additional attention to their sickness. Its the need for more “drugs”, like a crack addict that has to increase their doseage in order to get high. A blog addict is addicted to the response of his posts. Meaning is unimportant. Its a cry for help.
How about a warning label AJC!
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By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Only 29% of Americans Say U.S. Is Winning War on Terrorism
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Goldie, It’s going to take someone like Huges, or Gates and Jobs to come up with a solution — someone with more money than God and the guts, and brains to develop such technology - and a little eccentricity (is that a word?) to boot.
Mrs. G. I’m with you. I too had an old Nokia phone for many years and it was by far my favorite. I upgraded thinking I was getting such a great deal, and well, I’ve missed that old phone every since. My daughter dropped my cell phone last night and the crazy, Made in China piece of sh!t shattered. I want a phone that I can talk on, although, I do like the alarm clock on my phone.
I too, wish Jobs would come out with a phone that would put up laundry (I don’t mind folding it so much) and wash dishes, and clean gutters, and mow the lawn, and help my kids with homework.
Paul, Good morning! I hope you saw my post from the other night. The other Bosch isn’t pregnant. Me and Mrs. G were joking around. You scared me to death! Just thinking about having another one made me have nightmares! Oooh, I just had a full body shiver just thinking about that.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
{{{By Can’t Resist June 22, 2007 9:09 AM Exhaustion and fatigue affect our emotional moods, causing pessimism, sadness, stress and anger.}}}
Alright, anybody with a brain, does this^^ sound more to you like a Conservative or a whiny, shrieking, surrender monkey, sniveling Coward liberal?
Duh.
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By I gotta brain
June 22, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Conservative
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
Paul, Did you by chance catch a story on NPR this morning about energy costs, etc. I remember something in passing that said one thing Congress isn’t doing is promoting less driving among Americans. Did you hear that story, you seem to be a good NPR listener like myself. I zone out sometimes and don’t catch the whole story.
By Scarecrow after seeing the wizard
June 22, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Conservative
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
{{{Some cited on Dedman’s list dismissed any suggestion they’d done something unethical, or turned rhetorical summersaults to justify their donations: Randy Cohen, ethics columnist for the Times Magazine, said he considered unabashedly hard-left MoveOn.org, to which he contributed, “nonpartisan.”}}}
Tell me, is saying that MoveOn.org is “non partisan” not one of the most immature and childish bald faced lies that you have ever heard?
And that’s coming from the ethics columnist of the New York Times magazine????????????
Does this not make it all perfectly clear?
Is there anything, ANYTHING, that these goonies say that can be believed?
Anything?
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By Stephen Hawking
June 22, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Conservative
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
{{{By IN THE PROPAGANDA June 22, 2007 9:18 AM Only 29% of Americans Say U.S. Is Winning War on Terrorism}}}
Hey PROP, I know this is over your head, but do you think that might be because the mainstream pinko® media won’t tell Americans about our victories?
Could that possibly have something to do with it?
Duh.
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By Albert Einstein
June 22, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
Conservative
By Paul
June 22, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Bosch
Okay, congrats for Mrs B not being pregnant!
It’s been in the papers off and on about these middle age to later guys (55 and up) having kids. For the second marriage/younger wife types, I’ll put on my judgmental hat and say they either thought they’d done a poor job with the first batch and they’re trying to make up for it, or else they’re trying to prove their manhood. All they’ve gotta do is think “do I really wanna be closing in on 65 or 70 with a teenager?”
LuckoDull
It’s not just “good news” - it’s “positive results.” Given the mood of many Americans, majority party and minority party running for reelection it may be too little, too late. Rather like a spouse who says, after a number of years, “okay, so you’ve been faithful for three months. Doesn’t matter. I’ve had it. I’m outta here.”
It still seems pretty nervy and hypociritcal to me, though, that OUR Congress can be so condemnatory in demanding benchmarks/milestones showing “progress” of ANOTHER democracy. I know, it’s because it’s our blood being spilt - but still -
By Goldie
June 22, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Paul @ 9:11am— surprise! Look who complains about increasing our auto fuel standards, calling it “unattainable”:
The “Big 3” car manufacturers may be the hardest hit by this proposed bill, because most of their top sellers are SUVs and pickups, whereas import brands tend to build more cars. The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers trade group—representing DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM, Toyota, and others—has been outspoken in their criticism of this move, with a spokesperson Gloria Bergquist quoted at detnews.com as calling the goals “unattainable.”
I read where increasing our mileage standards to about 45 mpg would allow America to not have to import oil from the terrorist nations anymore — why would our auto manufacturers not want to increase our fuel efficiency in order to stop supporting the terrorists once and for all?
By TrekkieDull
June 22, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Conservative
By Got a Dictionary?
June 22, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
Main Entry: non·par·ti·san Pronunciation: ‘nän-‘pär-t&-z&n, -s&n Function: adjective : not partisan; especially : free from party affiliation, bias, or designation - non·par·ti·san·ship /-“ship/ noun
Moveon.org pi$$es off democrats too!
Anybody who isn’t with LuckDull is agin ‘im.
By The Watcher
June 22, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Sounds to me that the auto makers are supporters of terrorists!
By Goldie
June 22, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
One of the reasons that Congress gets such low approval ratings today is because we still have so many Repugs who remain in the pockets of Big Oil and are blocking the efforts of Americans to stop supporting terrorist nations:
Republicans blocked Democratic efforts to pass a $32 billion package of tax incentives for renewable energy and clean fuels, objecting to increasing taxes on oil companies by $29 billion over 10 years to pay for it.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
Yeah, Paul, it’s our blood being spilled and our money being spent. The Iraqi government surely isn’t spending any of their oil revenue they promised would “pay for the war.” Of course they can demand benchmarks for progress. That’s how federal spending works. Do you think they wouldn’t ask the same of anything else they were funding?
Thanks for the congratulatory message :-). I’m too sarcastic for my own good sometimes.
Also, did you catch that story I mentioned on NPR? Look at my 9:22 post.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
Did 9:35 really just say that MoveOn is a non partisan organization?
Does the old time worn phrase “once a liar, always a liar” mean anything to you?
Geez.
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By Truthman
June 22, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
More Republican stupidity…this time from Rep. Steve King of Iowa:
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Felectioncentral.tpmcafe.com%2Fblog%2Felectioncentral%2F2007%2Fjun%2F21%2Fgoprepstevekingintroduceslegislationtobarpelositripsto_syria
Only 16 1/2 months till our national nightmare ends!!
Vote Kucinich!! He’ll lock up Cheney and legalize the good stuff!!
By Paul
June 22, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
Bosch 9:22
Sorry, the NPR station I was listening to had a fund drive so I switched to the classical station. The nice thing about the morning shows (before 9 am) is they repeat the segments. I’ll check the web site later, some local NPR stations will post summaries.
Y’know, we’re in a country where people will cruise a parking lot to get a spot towards the front rather than walk 40 yards. I’m not sure what Congress can encourage - that was my point about slowing down - people can make great changes on their own. When I pointed out to my sister my amusement from a Car Talk question where a young lady wanted to know if it really saved gas driving 55 instead of 80, sis pointed out a lot of people don’t know and don’t think in those terms.
LuckoDull 9:24
This guy’s an ethics columnist and he calls MoveOn “nonpartisan?!!!??” Just how does he define “ethics?”
Goldie 9:33
Money. Period. Forgive me if this sounds lecturing - just mean it as my view - about 15 years ago American companies made a business decision to heavily invest in SUVs/trucks. Profit margins were much, much higher. There was no competition from foreign companies. Trucks were relatively cheap to build, SUVs were built on truck chassis - no new development costs. “Minivans” were still popular, but there was increasing Japanese competition.
So with the combination of higher margins (easy $15k on some models then), low fuel prices, Americans’ desire for something different (car buying is emotional for most) we saw Detroit shift emphasis away from cars.
Other manufacturers kept their car lines and R&D going, while Toyota/Honda also developed big trucks/SUVs for the American market. Europeans also developed SUVs (LOTS of money to be made). Heck, even Volvo - had a great large wagon, but they jacked it up, added hundreds of pounds, cut fuel economy a lot and sold a bunch.
They put their eggs in one basket. Then the basket dropped (the turn from trucks/SUVs after the first gas price spike was much worse than their projections), the eggs broke and now Detroit’s doing damage control.
I agree, this is not just a free market/personal choice issue - it’s a national security issue. Cut out the oil, do many Americans really care what happens in the Middle East? (Not counting a possible genocide in Israel or fanat
By Truthman
June 22, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
MoveOn is definitely partisan…They are partisan in support of truth, justice and the REAL AMERICAN WAY!!!
Not the lies, deceit and scullduggery of the Chimperor’s Regime…How can the “Dick” Cheney say he’s not part of the executive branch? Doesn’t he have an cave under the WH?
The “Dick” Cheney and LuckoDunce should form a WWE Tag-Team: Cheney can be ‘The Liar,’ and Dunceboy can be ‘Pants on Fire!”
Whine, LD, whine!!
By Got a Dictionary?
June 22, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Did LuckoDull just admit he can’t read?
Is there another english language?
Are they liberal - HELL YES
Are they progressive - HELL YES
Are they affiliated to the democratic party? Nope.
A mind is a terrible thing to live without.
By Another CON-JOB
June 22, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
NEW YORK — The no-holds-barred competition for television exclusives ratcheted up another level this week as Paris Hilton’s representatives told networks bidding for the first post-jail interview with the heiress that NBC was considering paying as much as $1 million for the scoop.
Another ham-fisted conservative effort to stomp the ‘godless’ness out of non-puritans goes awry.
Now every mother who ever told their child that ‘crime doesn’t pay’ has to swallow their own spit.
Hell’s bells, ahm a gonna get myself throwed inta jail so I can get me a million bucks, too. I wanna be like PARIS!
Hey, if ya actually KILL somebody befo ya go to jail, can you maybe get TWO million?
CON-JOBS are such silly gooses, the more they fiddle with something (anything) the more they muck it up and convince people that what they say is pure unadulterated BUSHSHIT.
CON-JOB lesson for the day: CON-JOBS always hold their dicks in their hands and look stupid, criminals get a MILLION BUCKS!
PARIS FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
Paul, Here it is.
Democrats Celebrate Energy Vote
I forget NPR does that. Like I said, I zone out sometimes!
Anyway, it’s the same old stuff from previous reports, nothing much new.
I do wish, that Congress would use some money to promote less driving, and put more money into public transportation. Also, maybe a bike path here and there would help.
You are right about the Wal-Mart cruisers. It makes me sick. Have you ever noticed the absurd amount of morbidly obese people at Wal-Mart? There has to be a correlation there.
Alot of times I walk to my local supermarket which is roughly half a mile away from my house, carrying my canvas grocery bags, and usually at least half the times I do that, I’ll always get stopped by someone offering me a ride.
By Dubya
June 22, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this
Anuther proud, brave, sucksessful week in Eye Rackie. Time fer u ugly shaved-headed freaks 2 tune in NASCAR n have u a time. Onward Christian soldiers, God bless Murcuh, God bless Bushie.
By mountain man
June 22, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Andy says he ain’t angry, and if you say he is, you’re just a pinko weirdo liberal dullard a#%hole and he’ll grind you into the dust with the power of his mighty keyboard.
If there has every been an individual who “doesn’t have a life”, it our dear, sweet Andy. I bet his therapist considers him a full time job listening to his rants and ravings.
Andy is like one of the loonier old testament prophets, who rips his clothes off and shouts into the streets the message of doom and gloom, but, dang it, we just won’t listen.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
Goldie
Sorry, just reread your 9:33. Short answer is “Money.” Business is in business to make money for owners. Foreign policy is govt’s problem. Crude, but basically true.
Bosch
Thx for the link.
Yeah, I see the point about Fed funding and accountability. Still strike me as a bit hypocritical, though. Just seems the “Congress is held accountable through the ballot box” is great theory and lousy reality.
This group’s getting pretty good with acronyms. After 8:56 I expected at leas one “what’s BOHICA?”
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
Oh, here’s a good one:
[Deputy AG Says His Testimony Was ‘Incomplete’ by Ari Shapiro
All Things Considered, June 21, 2007 · Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty told the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday that he never intended to mislead Congress about the firings of several federal prosecutors last year. But he acknowledged that his earlier testimony to Congress was “incomplete.”](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11259049)
So is the the new, “I can’t recall”? Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to mislead you, what I said was just “incomplete.”
Good grief!
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
{{{By mountain woman June 22, 2007 10:10 AM Andy is like one of the loonier old testament prophets, who rips his clothes off and shouts into the streets the message of doom and gloom, but, dang it, we just won’t listen.}}}
Yeah, you don’t listen to me but yet you know everything I say, hahaha:
{{{Andy says he ain’t angry, and if you say he is, you’re just a pinko weirdo liberal dullard a#%hole and he’ll grind you into the dust with the power of his mighty keyboard.}}}
Duh.
By the way, I consider it a great honor that the AJC has assigned me my very own lurker and all of the rest of you mindless dullards to try to counter the message that I am getting out.
It is taken as a compliment and I appreciate your efforts.
I’m damn good and I worry the hell out of you, thanks for noticing.
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By Can't Resist
June 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
“Let’s begin tonight in Iraq, where the United States armed forces…er, sorry…coalition forces are staging a massive attack against al Qaeda in the Diyala province, now considered Iraq’s most violent region. Which is something akin to being, say, The Village People’s gayest member.” —-Jon Stewart
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Okay, I screwed that link up.
Paul, I’m going to show my ignorance here, what’s BOHICA? Please don’t laugh at me, I seriously don’t know what that means. I’m never afraid to admit I don’t know everything.
I screw up links and I’m not good with acronyms.
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Tom Coburn: The Shame of the Senate
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Election integrity panel turns partisan. In 2004, President Bush established the bipartisan Election Assistance Commission (EAC) to help states overhaul their broken election procedures. But just three years later, the EAC is now facing allegations that “in response to pressure from the Justice Department, the commission altered or delayed research to play down findings on sensitive topics such as voter fraud and voter identification laws that many Republican figures and appointees would have found objectionable.”
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this
Okay, I’ll show my ignorance about something else. Can somebody please explain to me what is going on in Gaza and Palestine with Fatah and Hamas? I’ve read many news stories, but I’m still confused as to what is going on.
There, I don’t mind being the village idiot today. I’m in too good of a mood and it’s Friday!
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
The Gaza Effect
By Paul
June 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Bosch 10:29
Thanks for the “straight line” (as in “giving me a great opening”). Wouldn’t laugh - I have a great time changing my mind as new information or perspectives are presented, it’s actually kinda fun to say “you know, I think that’s correct - I agree” - then watch the other person continue the argument…
Well, when dealing with govt. Business. Bosses. Dilbert Coworkers. Kids. Life in general. We all have a “BOHICA day.”
“Bend Over. Here It Comes Again.”
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
BOSCH
YOU GOT THE LABEL CORRECT THE SYSTEM DOES NOT PARAGRAGH SPACES IN THE LABEL
[Deputy AG Says His Testimony Was ‘Incomplete’ by Ari Shapiro
All Things Considered, June 21, 2007 · Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty told the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday that he never intended to mislead Congress about the firings of several federal prosecutors last year. But he acknowledged that his earlier testimony to Congress was “incomplete.”](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11259049)
REMOVE THE PARAGRAPH SPACE BETWEEN SHAPIRO AND ALL - THEN IT SHOULD WORK
By Rev. Fred Phelps
June 22, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
(Reverend Phelps has the clear intention of pinning his group’s despicable actions on conservatives.}
Bi Danish, you are a twisted little carpet-munching dy-ke lover aren’t you? How many sinful women have you lain with?
Listen carefully you vile apostate. I could give a rat’s arse if you call yourself republican, neo-con, martian or conservative. You are irrefutably one thing above all others - a Godless and evil reprobate! And my precious Savior knows that as he watches you.
ALL that matters is if you believe in the saving grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and that you see that your fudge-packing friends are going to burn for all eternity!
Because the filthy lying coward LickaPole hasn’t the hair on his nads to answer any questions and disavow his tolerance of the unrighteous sodomites, I’ll ask you, immoral hag.
Have you declared Jesus Christ as your personal savior?
And do you agree that the f@ggots are going to be roasted or not?
They are very simple questions for a simple mind. Better start wearing asbestos panties, pervert lover.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
Bosch
BTW - BOHICA is pronounced (“bow” as in “bow and arrow”) “bow-hee-kah” emphasis on second syllable.
boo-hi-kay just doesn’t work -
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Look at the lying goony liberals and their campaign to demonize talk radio:
{{{Many social conservatives, backed by talk show hosts, denounce it as amnesty for illegal immigrants.}}}
It wouldn’t matter to me if even Bush was for this amnesty bill I’d still be against it, oh wait, Bush is for it.
Duh.
You filthy little pervert lurkers, someone tell me how Rush Limbaugh is any damn different than this is:
{{{By Can’t Resist June 22, 2007 10:29 AM “Let’s begin tonight in Iraq, where the United States armed forces…er, sorry…coalition forces are staging a massive attack against al Qaeda in the Diyala province, now considered Iraq’s most violent region. Which is something akin to being, say, The Village People’s gayest member.” —-Jon Stewart}}}
You ignorant pud pullers, lockstep partisan toadies, go soak your heads.
Cowards.
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By Bosch
June 22, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Okay, Got cha Paul, thanks :-)
No, just because you are willing to change your mind or perspective on things shows you are open-minded and have higher level intelligence. The ones who speak in “absolutes” are the troubling ones!
I’m never to afraid when I don’t know something. Like the Hamas/Fatah, Gaza/Palestine thing. I don’t know who is on whose side, or which political faction belongs with who.
I know my man, Jimmy, said something really controversial again in defense of Palestine, but hey, you got to love the old guy — not afraid to speak his mind. I’ll take Jimmy any day over W.
In the News, thanks too! I’ll keep that in mind. Sometimes I need lessons. Keep up the good work.
By Can't Resist
June 22, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
Stewart is a PROFESSIONAL comedian/satirist.
Limbaugh is no laughing matter.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
Paul, Neither does b-o-hi-kah, or bow-i-kuh - I could have fun with this all day!
By Looking For Logic
June 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
In all the wrong places
{{{{Look at the lying goony liberals and their campaign to demonize talk radio:
{{{Many social conservatives, backed by talk show hosts, denounce it as amnesty for illegal immigrants.}}}
WHAT?
By Tony
June 22, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
A time for reflection. Our born-again drunk has done it again. For all you who support Bush and his veto of stem cell research in particular, I curse you. It is my fervent hope that you and your family, especially the children, will feel the pain which you have inflicted. My sincere wish is that God sends you and each depraved member of your family the most grotesque, horrific, unindurable calamity and natural disaster allowed to occur in a human being. Further, that any and all improvements derived from stem cell research be forever withheld from you and yours. No one is more deserving of this than you and your fellow travelers.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Tony, my goodness. I’m really disappointed in that veto as well, but take it easy, brother. You are cursing innocent children here.
Yes, it is sad that those who are against stem cell research think it is okay to throw these left over embryos from fertility clinics in the trash can, but heaven forbid they be used for the good of fellow human beings - in which they can help prolong or improve the life of people with disabilities and disease. It’s kind of like “backwards” pro life.
They are more concerned with a group of cells that will be thrown in the garbage than the actual fully formed living and breathing people they could save.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
I’m waiting for “Fair is Fair” to denounce “Tony” for his “petulant and vile” comments, not to mention to take issue with the “vile” person who inexplicably likes to emulate a “vile” sociopath called Phelps.
Tick Tock Tick Tock…
The silence is deafening.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
{{{By Can’t Resist June 22, 2007 11:09 AM Stewart is a PROFESSIONAL comedian/satirist. Limbaugh is no laughing matter.}}}
Did everybody get that?
Does it make any sense at all to any of you?
I listen to Limbaugh damn near every day, I have yet to see where he tells people to believe what ever he says or he will kill you.
Are you liberals too stupid to sort out things for yourself, you know, to like think and have thoughts, do you have to have the government tell you what is right and what is wrong?
Geez.
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By Paul
June 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Tony
There is no “ban” on embryonic stem cell research. It’s just a ban on federal funding as applied to some lines.
You may want to check the level of private/public company funding of these lines of research. Or maybe encourage some of the veddy veddy wealthy types (Soros?) who are against the Bush Administration’s funding ban to pony up a few million of their own bucks? Maybe just close a hidden Caribbean account? Heck, he’d probably even find a way to take it as a tax deduction or tax credit! Then it’d be indirect federal funding of stem cell research and he’d even get the last laugh!
Say what you will - Pres Bush has a pretty consistent philosophical position on this. Those who disagree are free to band together and raise the money from other sources.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, I’m not Fair is Fair, I don’t do the multiple ID thing, but I think the “Phelps” person has gone too far. What started as a bad joke has just kept going and whoever that is, really should stop.
By AmVet
June 22, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Bosch, agreed it is another day in paradise and hope always springs eternal (especially on Friday!)
I see where the US Senate has passed a new energy bill that mandates higher mpg ratings by 2020. I don’t see what’s the big hurry! After all, its the first increase in fuel efficiency since 22.7 mpg was enacted in 1989 and the first time Congress has imposed a new auto efficiency mandate in 32 years.
1989?!!! 32 YEARS?!!!
And this one of my favorite more-toothless sections: Price gouging provisions that make it unlawful to charge an “unconscionably excessive” price for oil products including gasoline and give the federal government new authority to investigate oil industry market manipulation.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
So on side of his mouth the leader of the Republican party tries to scare the hell out of the American people with quotes like he’s not willing to wait for the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud (Oh, those damnedable missing WMDs!) and out of the other side he has absolutely NO sense of urgency as the GOP obfuscates and denies a much more likely and disastrous scenario - a catastrophic rise in world oil prices and a partial collapse of the US economy.
Is this lip-service to meaningful progress patriotic? Is this effective national security? Is this what passes for leadership and making tough choices?
Or is it more of the status quo of protecting your turf and your corporate contributors above everything else?
Just asking.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
OH, Buy Danish, I forgot I did do the “Charitable [something] for Buy Danish/RW” name once, but you knew that was me, right?
I really hate it when people do that on both sides of the aisle.
I am in a really great mood today, I must go out and enjoy this beautiful weather for a bit.
Beeeee back lata!
By Nuff said!
June 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
I listen to Limbaugh damn near every day
By Two Fer Friday
June 22, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
Hovering over the Senate immigration debate like a malignant ghost is the near total failure of the last attempt to bring immigration under control — a train wreck of a plan passed in 1986.
Holy Ronald McRaygun, you mean the ‘86 REPUBLICAN AMNESTY PLAN didn’t work, either? Shiite, let’s try the same thing all over again, then.
Ain’t that the Republican way….keep repeating the same mistakes over and over and over again hoping for a different result than they got the time before? Like those cocaine addicted lab rats, they’re just gonna keep hittin that same lever til they fall over dead.
Bush touts proposal to cut back on gas
Hey, King George wants you to walk or ride a bike to work. Now THAT’S progress, REPUBLICAN STYLE!!!
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
Tony, Paul is right on that. There is research being done, just no federal funding. And also, Paul is right about Bush’s consistency. I don’t like his reasoning behind the refusal, but at least he’s being consistent.
Okay, I’m out of here for a bit!
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
{{{By Nuff said! June 22, 2007 11:35 AM I listen to Limbaugh damn near every day}}}
Limbaugh has 30,000,000 listeners and air america had 3 people listening, and they had to be paid to listen.
Can you guess what the liberals are all upset about?
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By Paul
June 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull 11:28
Limbaugh’s no laughing matter because he plays the game better than many on the Left - so they feel threatened.
A few months back I was listening to NPR’s weekly news roundup. They’d had Rush on one of their shows. Asked him “what’s the purpose of your show?” I still remember his answer:
“To attract the most listeners I can and keep them as long as I can so I can charge advertisers the most money possible.”
No wonder so many hate him and Boxer, Hillary et al want the gov’t to do an end run on censorship. Air America tried to answer right-wing talk radio and failed miserably (but not until Al Franken got millions up front while low-paid staffers were being laid off).
So the answer to the battle of ideas is: restrict the successful outlets and subsidize the losers? No thanks.
BTW - I don’t listen to his program (Buy Danish encouraged me to, but I thought he spent a lot of time on non-news topics - golf, recitations of dining out, etc- so it wasn’t my cup of tea). I did find he posed some provocative ideas, though -
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Good morning my new blog friends…I see that everyone is up and at em…gee whiz, don’t you guys have jobs? Hadn’t had time to read the whold blog yet, but I’m down with Ms. G, on the cell phone thing…and btw, why the hay can’t they make a phone that I can see? I haven’t gone quite blind yet, but my forty-something eyes can not handle these microscopic numbers! Here here on the call to down the evil-doer Cheney and his puppet-string d** daughter…and btw, what is her deal? Doesn’t she realize her dad is the devil?
By getalife
June 22, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
Rush is a drug addict.
He turned on Lott and Lott wants to shut him down.
Too funny.
Lets see, the Energy bill passed last night but the House debating spending is hilarious.
Seems like the gop have actually turned conservative on spending after the largest spending and deficit in history.
They will not cut Iraqi welfare but tried to cut Israel’s funding. At least they both agreed to cut Saudi welfare.
cheney started a fourth branch of government so we need to change all the textbooks and have teachers teach this new government or they could just impeach the criminal.
Geez.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull
Did you get that? Limbaugh went on NPR. Democratic Presidential candidates won’t go on Fox.
Hmmmmmm.
By Bumper Sticker
June 22, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
Like pornography, limbaugh is enormously popular! What does that mean? Lonely people like to jack off a lot I guess.
By rushncap
June 22, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Paul — Muffin encouraged you to listen to Rush? Isn’t she the one who keeps claiming that she does not listen to him herself?
By rushncap
June 22, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Paul — unfair comparison. Limbaugh is not running for office, and dittoheads could not find NPR on their radios if you spotted them the first numbers. He’d probably come back with a great story about how he went into the “belly of the beast” or something. Let’s see Brownback appear on Olbermann’s show, then we can draw comparisons.
By Midori
June 22, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Some of Rush’s “provocative” ideas:
Limbaugh Declares Victory: I’m Responsible For Obama ‘Getting Blacker’
Rush Limbaugh: Barak The Magic Negro
Rush Limbaugh calls War Protesters “Anti-American, Anti-Capitalist Marxists and Communists”!!
As Rush Limbaugh accused Michael J. Fox of exaggerating the effects of Parkinson’s disease, he impersonated Fox, jerking his head and arms wildly back and forth.
“On the August 4 edition of the nationally syndicated Rush Limbaugh Show, Limbaugh said that England and the other accused soldiers were engaging in acts that were ’sort of like hazing, a fraternity prank. Sort of like that kind of fun.’”
All that aside, Limbaugh’s recent remarks directed at two Sept. 11 widows veer so far off his worn propaganda path that they bypass his “insensitive and inappropriate” statements concerning Donovan McNabb and venture into the realm of another shameful moment in broadcast history — when he lit into 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton in 1993. “Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?” Limbaugh said on TV, before holding up a picture of Chelsea.
Yep. He does play a much better game than the left. Indeed.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
{{{By raisedanidiot June 22, 2007 11:50 AM I see that everyone is up and at em…gee whiz, don’t you guys have jobs?}}}
First thing out of the box they pry into your private life, even though they want you to stay out of theirs, geez.
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{{{By Anti Radical June 22, 2007 11:36 AM Holy Ronald McRaygun, you mean the ‘86 REPUBLICAN AMNESTY PLAN didn’t work, either? Shiite, let’s try the same thing all over again, then}}}
Let’s see here, 50 democrat senators are for this amnesty bill and 2 Republicans support it, so of course Spammie blames it on the Republicans.
What credibility you have there, anti R.
{{{Bush touts proposal to cut back on gas}}}
Spammie: You are criticizing him for having a liberal idea???????????
Geez.
(This should tell you why his approval ratings are so low, the Conservatives hate the guy worse than you goonies do.
Duh.
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By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
I’m also with bosche that the rev. should come clean…I live in a small town where there are real people like that though…in line with yesterday’s conversation about WW2 propaganda machine, these guys really believe that they are God’s agents…I have no doubt one of them would be happy to put me in a gas chamber.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
{{{By Paul June 22, 2007 11:55 AM LuckoDull Did you get that? Limbaugh went on NPR. Democratic Presidential candidates won’t go on Fox. Hmmmmmm.}}}
Paul: Limbaugh has nothing to hide, everything he says is in an archive at his website. You can be a partisan goony like Midori, for instance, and take what he says out of context or you can read the whole story. The people who can think and read know what he said, it’s right there.
How many of these slobbering idiots know that the LA Times coined the phrase “Barack the magic negro?”
The goonies wretch back up their stupid talking points like little robutts, it’s all they are capable of.
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By Midori
June 22, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Well, Andy: my first clue that Rush is a scumbag? You support him.
You ONLY support slime.
pure and simple.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
rushncap
Yes - it was a while back. My point with Limbaugh was he went on a forum where it could be said he’s wildly unpopular and could get hit with some tough questions and accusations. Assertion’s made Fox is right wing - but the candidates won’t go on forums where they may face tough questions and accusations. Except Kerry. He’s done it. Stephanopoulis, I believe. James Carville, too. And he’s a strategist!
Midori
By provocative ideas I meant his take on candidates taking private jets, SUVs having zip impact on the country’s oil consumption and even if there were we could just drill in Anwar and get enough.
I probably should have said “silly” instead of provocative.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
LuckoDull
LA Times originated the Obama thing? Wow. Did Olbermann rant against them?
Again, it’s a free country - as you pointed out, one can listen and sort it out, agree with some things, disagree with others. He raises issues, takes jabs. I find it sad many who take issue go personal instead of refute the ideas.
Like the private jet thing. That was Rush? Or Hannity? Anyhow - what candidate in his or her right mind is going to risk being a no-show at a big event because United decided to swap crews and delay the flight by an hour? As far as the avgas consumption - it would be a problem… if we had as many private jets as cars. As far as Anwar - it’s a false choice - either drill or do nothing else. Lots of those arguments are structured that way.
And the left - or even moderates - or Republicans who disagree - can’t make a counterargument against those simple, “provocative/silly” statements.
No wonder Air America failed. And nothing else has followed.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
“When asked whether he was quitting the Bush administration because it would be good for his political future, Rob Portman, the outgoing budget director, replied: “It would be good for my mental health.” Although Mr Portman was joking, a growing list of officials have already acted on that impulse.”
Mmmmm, never heard that one before.
By AmVet
June 22, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
{I’m also with bosche that the rev. should come clean…}
raisedanidiot, although obviously, not actually a blogger at the AJC the “Reverend” is incredibly a real person who lives in Topeka, Kansas.
Google him and you’ll find this insane garbage: www.godhatesfa8gs.com. I added the 8 to bypass the censors.
And as Buy Danish pointed out, he actually has run for office as a Democrat. It is my experience that atheists or Christians or neo-cons or straights or gays or whatever or whoever have no monopoly on bigotry and hatred. It can be found, to a small extent or large, in all races, religions and creeds. As can love and compassion.
The most relevant question any of us can ask ourselves is that, “Are we a willing contributor to that hatred and bigotry, or do we try and oppose it.”
And I’m fairly convinced that most of the hard-talking hateful speech seen here is just people hiding behind a virtual persona and is probably not reflective of who these people really are.
But sadly, I am open to the possibility that I could be wrong about that.
By Mrs. Godzilla
June 22, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot,
try a “Jitterbug” my 83 year old dad just got one….I think it’s only available online….supposed to be designed to be easier for those of us in the trifocal set.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
getalife 12:31
[[When asked… (why)… he was quitting the Bush administration… Rob Portman, the outgoing budget director, replied: “It would be good for my mental health.” ]]
And you said the Bush Administration never told the truth…. :)
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Spammie, Republicans are all for amnesty:
{{{Illegal immigrants have broken our healthcare system, they have broken our education system, they have broken our jail system, they have broken our criminal justice system, and Washington just doesn’t get it. Why? Because those idiots in their little bubble in Washington have a perfect healthcare system, a prefect educational system, a perfect jail system, and a perfect criminal justice system. Unlike the majority of the American people, they are never inconvenienced by hordes of illegals penetrating our borders every day.}}}
Bozo.
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By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
Amvet…beautifully and eloquently put…no, I did not know the rev. was a real person…don’t forget, I was RAISED an idiot..such is hard to overcome…didn’t know what bohica was either…you guys are a real education!
By getalife
June 22, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Paul,
They are just starting to tell the truth:
“Bush Official: “Not everything we’ve done has been illegal.”
Geez.
By LMAO
June 22, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
I never rest and in fact, the very suggestion is repulsive to me, I do not love the bed.
Plus, there are always sick, disgusting pervert liberal Cowards out spreading their anti American hate, would it kill you P’sOS to take a break every now and again?
I don’t think you are being loud enough Andy. No one seems to be listening to you.
When Mike’s blog started in Oct. of 2005 Bush’s approval rating was 45%. Since you started your I love Bush campaign, Bush has lost ALMOST HALF of his support.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one seems to be listening to you!
Lay off the meth and get some sleep!
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
AmVet -
“And I’m fairly convinced that most of the hard-talking hateful speech seen here is just people hiding behind a virtual persona and is probably not reflective of who these people really are.”
Me too. This is entertainment for the most part.
Raisedanidiot, Paul had to explain the BOHICA thing to me too earlier. See Paul’s post at 10:49.
By Fair is Fair
June 22, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Actually I contacted the Reverend (term used loosely) Phelps via his website at The Westboro Baptist Church. www.godhatesfags (please foregive me for using that terrible word, but that is the website) and advised him that his name was being used in posts that were disgusting. It will be interesting to see if any response is forthcoming. (Doubtful)
Of course, it most likely is not the real Phelps posting here, but whoever it is is obviously unbalanced. It is impossible to get the unbalanced to act civilized.
I gave YOU the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you do not warrant that.
Do you have children? Have you taught them civilized discourse or is name calling part of your everyday life?
Were you an orphan? Did you lack training in the social graces?
The tick tock bit is quaint, but you use it frequently and it has lost it luster.
This is a blog….all you will ever hear IS silence.
Now can we expect you to behave like the flower of the south you could be?
By AmVet
June 22, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
Woo Hoo! Good news for me! Nader is considering making another run in 2008! Chances are slim as the system is so rigged against non-Dems and non-Repubs. Thanks for REAL meaningful campaign finance reform you thugs!
I know people from both political parties just hate him, but did anyone see him yesterday evening on Wolf Blitzer’s show?
The guy just makes so much sense and is so determined to really change things that even with BOTH political parties doing everything in their power, legally or otherwise, to keep him on the outside looking in, and with NO money from corruptable corporate leaders and lobbyists, he can still garner 3% of the vote!
His runs for office were the final straw why I left the Democratic party. It was clear to me some years earlier that the Democratic Party was not much more than another bunch of corporate wh0res.
But it was truly amazing to me to watch people from Jimmy Carter to Michael Moore to Howard Dean to Gloria Steinham slime Nader in their best neo-con imitations, ONLY to keep their monopolistic party in control.
And the ONLY prominent Republicans to support him I can thin of were Ben Stein and Richard Egan, and they may have done so just to undermine Kerry and keep the GOP paymasters in very close reach of the White House.
Unlike the impotent Dems who are really just wussies on most issues that affect middle-class Americans, and unlike the crazies in the GOP who has used the past 12 years to prove they are even more incompetent, he is not afraid to say what needs to be said.
He’s certainly not perfect, but unlike virtually all of our elected “leaders” he has demonstrated some courage and is right when he says, “If Senator John F. Kennedy’s best-selling book Profiles in Courage was updated, nothing Hillary Clinton has done in the Congress would come close to being a footnote.”
Nor any of the other clowns in Washington I can think of.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
I just googled “rev. phelps”…holy mother of god!! I thought I had seen everything …coming from much the same religious background…which btw, the bob jones thing explains much…he sort of has that disturbed charlten heston thing going on too doesn’t he?
By Fly-on-the-wall
June 22, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
I have a question. Why do all of the conservatives believe that if we would just drill for oil in the Alaskan slope we’d have enough oil to free ourselves from the Middle East? All the unbiased reports I’ve heard have said that it ‘might’ be able to supply us with 8 to 10 years of oil - at the most. Do they also think that the oil companies would sell that oil only to the U.S? Don’t you think they’d rather sell it to China or any other top bidder than be patriotic and sell it only to us? Remember the quote said earlier by the oil company executives - ‘We here to make a profit’. How would we, the regular people, feel about that? Would Republicans then say it is ok because that’s just business? The Alaskan oil isn’t going to help us any and it just might make things worse by keeping us dependent on oil. We need a better plan then “just find more oil”, which is what the President and his administration have been saying for 7 years.
By Robert
June 22, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
Very nicely put, Tony. You showed a lot more kindness and consideration than I would give these filthy Bush bastards.
By Thw Watcher
June 22, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
AmVet
I have a problem with a Nader run.
For all his talk about change, all his great ideas, he has been nowhere to be seen in between elections.
He has the name recognition to get attention.
What has he done to earn our votes lately?
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
{{{Of course, it most likely is not the real Phelps posting here, but whoever it is is obviously unbalanced.}}}
Fair is Fair,
No kidding, Sherlock. I gather it has escaped your notice that the impostor (who is not very different from the real thing) targets his posts exclusively to conservatives.
It was awfully nice of you to alert the “Rev” that someone was emulating him at the A.J.C. blogs.
If you’d like help in understanding why he (she?) does that, I’ll be happy to offer assistance.
{{{The tick tock bit is quaint, but you use it frequently and it has lost it luster.}}}
How would you know that I use that frequently? Are you a lurker or another multi-personalitied poster who changes your name with the wind*?
{{Were you an orphan? Did you lack training in the social graces?}}}
Nice way to slur orphans, jacka$$.
{{{This is a blog….all you will ever hear IS silence.}}}
Wow, thanks for the tip! I guess silence is never deafening either to pompous ignoramuses like you.
{{{Now can we expect you to behave like the flower of the south you could be?}}}
I’m a Yankee.
Anything else?
*Also see “deafening silence”.
By Fair is Fair
June 22, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
For some there is no hope.
Only pity.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
I see that “Robert” is talking to himself through one of his multiple personalities again. This time it’s “Tony”.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Amvet..I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said…I’m a bit of an idealist myself and think we should all strive for that end..but I’m afraid it would take a revolution to get Nader in…a more realistic goal might be to just get the Bushies out…you know how they hang around like cockroaches, through one administration after another.
By Jane
June 22, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Very, very good post Buy Danish(1:33)
You are with out a doubt the only reason I read this blog! Keep up the good work.
By AmVet
June 22, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
{For all his talk about change, all his great ideas, he has been nowhere to be seen in between elections.}
Au Contraire, Watcher.
I receive regular e-mails form his campaign staff and as you can imagine he has been trying to pay off the expenses from 2004. Remember he gets NO money from the sources like corporations and PACs that the entrenched politicos rely upon very, very heavily.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
{{{By Fair is Fair
June 22, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
For some there is no hope.
Only pity.}}}
How profound!
By Greg
June 22, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
Luckosodom, uyou ignorant slime. Your empty mind denotes that there is an absense of Iraq war” news in the AJC, does it? There is no news of the Iraq fiasco and killing fields in ANY USA newspaper, idiot. Do you suppose that’s because nearly all newspapers are owned by Republicans who refuse to allow the Iraq horrors to be released to the suckers paying for it? Duh. Get off this silly blog, you pitiful inferior insect. Take your ignorance, your crudity, your uneducated essense back under that rock where you dwell.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
BO cuts off mic again
Debate on Faux, yea right idiots.
By Fair is Fair
June 22, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Yes, Buy Danish, you may now have the last word.
By AmVet
June 22, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this
raisedanidiot, well said.
Yes I realize that getting Nader elected is not altogether “realistic”. But it has to start somewhere. And if mine can be a voice for reason, then I’ll shout it out as loud and as long as I can.
And though I do not profess to put myself anywhere remotely near the same class as them, I’m sure Frederick Douglass and Mohandis Ghandi were told the same things.
And funny that you used the word Revolution. It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing for this country! Last night I was singing along to:
You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know you can count me out
Don’t you know it’s gonna be alright
Alright Alright
You say you got a real solution
Well you know
we’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We’re doing what we can
But when you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don’t you know it’s gonna be alright
Alright Alright
You say you’ll change the constitution
Well you know
we all want to change your head You tell me it’s the institution Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don’t you know know it’s gonna be alright
Alright Alright
By Betty
June 22, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, I just had to let you know you have a huge fan! I love all your brilliant insights.
Its truly refreshing to have an honest voice to speak the truth. Thank you.
By The Watcher
June 22, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Did the whole group come in from the pool or what?
Corny.
By Midori
June 22, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
FYI: AT&T quietly introduces $10 DSL plan, part of BellSouth acquisition concessions
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
{{{By Fair is Fair
June 22, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Yes, Buy Danish, you may now have the last word.}}}
Listen to this wannabe blog mistress, who imagines that she is the Queen of Decorum and Order, and allows her subjects to speak… with her permission.
Time to come down to Earth, “Fair” Moonbat. You’ve spent enough time in imaginary faerie land for the day.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
You could argue that Andy is actually a lib and uses such pathetic arguments to show how wrong the right really is.
We should thank Andy for getting a Dem landslide in 06 and oversight to expose the WH criminals.
I say, keep up the good work Andy and hope the same outcome in 08.
By Betty and Veronica
June 22, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
We like Buy Danish better that Archie OR Jughead.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
amvet…we were all singing with you!…..by betty: “buy danish…brilliant insights?!” hummmm….you both kinda frighten me
By Barbie and MIdge
June 22, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish
You are so much less Plastic than Ken!
By getalife
June 22, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Come to think of it, its not just Andy that helped give the Dems a victory but all the wingnuts posting here.
Keep up the great work BD, RW, Paul and all the other id’s they use.
Thank you.
By Laura Bush
June 22, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
BD You can have Georgie after I’m gone!
You are fer sure b!tchin’
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
AmVet - take it easy on my man, Jimmy, he’s getting old.
Raisedanidiot, Rev. Phelps protests at funerals of Iraqi soldiers who have been killed in action claiming that they were killed because of America’s tolerance of homosexuals.
Yes, you were correct when you said, “Holy, mother of God!”
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
{{{Keep up the great work BD, RW, Paul and all the other id’s they use.}}}
getalife,
How does it feel to be sucker punched by your own comrades?
Sheesh.
By Funny morons®
June 22, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
I know this item was touched on briefly but I want to add my two cents:
Dick Cheney has obviously spent too much time in “undisclosed” locations because since 2003 he has directed his office to quit complying with Executive Order 12958 that requires the National Archives to inspect federal agencies and White House offices to ensure that they are complying with the security procedures regarding classified information.
In a letter to the national Archives, sent in 2006 by Cheney’s staff, Cheney asserted that the Office of the Vice-President is not an “entity within the executive branch” and therefore not subject to presidential executive orders.
Excuse me…what?!?
Since when was the OVP not part of the executive branch? Has Dick Cheney ever even read the Constitution of the United States? You know, the one he took an oath to uphold and protect?
The disclosure that Cheney views himself and his office as a separate apparatus unaffected by any restraint comes from the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, led by Congressman Henry Waxman. The issue itself was brought to Waxman’s committee by National Archive personnel after the Department of Justice (under Alberto Gonzales) refused to look into the matter. In other words, this bold and stunning assertion was discovered not as the result of some “witchhunt” for wrongdoing.
The prospect that Cheney clearly views himself and his office (and has apparently since 2003) to be an ‘independent operator’ inside the American government, subject to no laws or rules from anyone or anything, including the president, is chilling indeed.
If this isn’t enough to remove this man from office then American government and democracy is nothing but a farce and a shell of its former self.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Wow! Buy Danish has a fan club! Congratulations!
No one has answered my question for today - can anyone explain the Fatah/Hamas Gaza/Palestine situation for me? Is this because everyone else like me is just horribly confused by who is on whose side?
Also, on a much ligher note. That would be a whole lot of fun if the REAL Rev. Phelps would start bloggin on here! Just think about it. I’m going to go see now if he has a blog of his own, although I doubt any of his followers can type much less form sentences.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
BD,
Just thanking you for helping us win in 06.
Giving credit where credit is due.
Keep posting to get total Dem power in 08.
Your arguments really do help the Dems.
Thanks again.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
If you’re out there, this is for you.
Stalinists are at the Gate.
By LuckoDull
June 22, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
So what exactly is the AJC banning me for now?
What silly little hissy fit are you in the grasp of that I don’t know about?
You stupid little sniveling Cowards, cutting off the debate because I’m making you look stupid.
Just like sHrillary, abuse the power to put a stop to what you don’t want to hear.
Geez, if this doesn’t just scream how weak you liberals really are and how strong I am.
Cowards, stupid idiot Cowards.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
No, you were accusing us of using multiple IDS.
Congenital lying really is a distinctive trait of Libs, isn’t it?
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Tell Congress to Impeach Cheney First
By History repeats
June 22, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
Ever wonder if those who supported Nixon up to the very end of his presidency admit it today?
I wonder if the “special needs” voters will admit to supporting Bush during his term after he leaves office and goes down in history as a total failure.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this
See, we have BD talking about Stalin and Andy talking about cowards.
Excellent.
Shows the readers just how wrong the right really is.
Nobody wants to be associated with these people.
Pushing them to the left.
Geez.
By rushncap
June 22, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
I guess Levin has no idea what “Stalinism” means, and Muffin will regurgitate anything she’s told, provided she’s told this by the right website.
By RW-(the original)
June 22, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Do you think Truth?man and Unfunny Moron are going to be embarrassed when they find out Dick Cheney is right about his Office’s place in our government or do you think they’ll just pretend they never mentioned it.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
It is confusing.
They elected Hamas but they are labeled a terrorist group but help the people in Gaza.
Fatah is corrupt and does not help the people so they had a civil war in Gaza and Hamas won in one day.
Fatah governs The West Bank and fired the Hamas government.
We support Fatah even though they are corrupt and do nothing like the gop.
Like Iraq, looks like they need to seperate the two fanctions with a buffer zone like most civil war conflicts.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
bosch…welcome back…that fresh air must of been good, I should try it. I’m guessing no one else has clarity on the fatah/hammas thing either…I whole-heartedly agree with your earlier wish to see Jimmy again…just when you think a level-headed conservative is an oxymoron, there’s Jimmy. Jimmy’s new book (relatively new anyway), Peace, not apartheid helped me understand some stuff…there’s a great time-line in front of the book..the whole middle east thing is so confusing…if more americans were more educated on mid-east policies, we might not be in this Iraq mess in the first place…nobody seems to care much about the bedrock of civilization
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
Getalife,
The entire mission of groups like the “Center for American Progress’ is to “push people to the Left” by using Stalinist tactics to silence talk radio and other venues where conservative voices can be heard.
Now excuse me as I roll over laughing as you pretend to be a middle of the roader and implicitly deny your own far-Left leanings.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Great stuff BD but you are doing a better job than that group.
Thanks again.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
Getalife, Thanks, I thought that Hamas had won the elections earlier, but apparently, that didn’t sit too well with the U.S. government, right?
Okay, so now, we and Israel are backing and supporting (I’m assuming with weapons, money?) Fatah even though Hamas won the democratically held elections? Didn’t we do the same thing with Saddam Hussein during the Iran/Iraq war? Didn’t that turn out to be bad?
See, that’s where I’m getting all confused.
Raisedanidiot, Yes, Jimmy’s book has caused quite a stir, but it really forces us to look in the mirror and really think about our whole-hearted support of Israel.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Yes, and now we are backing the Sunnis against a democratically held election win by the Shiites in Iraq.
The Saudis are funding and arming the Sunnis too, so Iran is helping the Shiites.
This kills w’s argument on bringing democracy to the ME.
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
rushncap,
This is Mark Levin’s BIO:
Mark is president of Landmark Legal Foundation. Previously he served as Landmark’s director of legal policy for more than three years. He has worked as an attorney in the private sector and as a top adviser and administrator to several members of President Reagan’s cabinet. Levin served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese; deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior. He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law.
Yeah, I’m sure he doesn’t know anything about Stalinism.
How’s that Global Warming working out for you?
By getalife
June 22, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
I think the solution for Palestine is a two state and Iraq is a three state solution with buffer zones.
This will not happen until a Dem is elected President.
w does not want peace. He wants to feed the military contractors and big oil.
He is accomplishing his mission paid for with slaughter in the ME.
w and cheney are the worst of criminals and Americans.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
Getalife, Yeah, that’s what I thought too (about the Shiite/Sunni deal) in Iraq.
It seems we only like democracy when our guys win. This whole democracy thing has really put a damper in W’s plans, hasn’t it.
Thanks again.
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
OH THAT MARK LEVIN
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Getalife, And don’t forget W and Cheney have the U.S. military at his disposal to do there bidding.
Kind of makes you wonder why Cheney’s so secretive.
Let’s see the Bush family is in the oil business and let’s see, what did Cheney do? Oh yes, he was with Halliburton.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
we don’t have a democracy here, why should we litterally kill ourselves for democracy elsewhere?! Am I being paranoid or does it seem W wants to split the world into with another world war?
By Paul
June 22, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Bosch
It’ll take a bit of time but the distinctions are drawn pretty well.
Link: Fatah vs Hamas
Hamas’ treatment of Fatah (torture and summary executions) demonstrate extremist governance. Those guys are evil. One source of animosity - Fatah agreed to Israel’s right to exist and to not seek a genocide. Hamas takes a differing view.
Serious? Sure is. There are indications Israel may strike to remove Hamas as a threat. You can be sure they won’t make the mistakes they made in Lebanon.
See what happens when democracy (our style which reveres individualism) is imposed in a culture which despises individualism? Frankly, a good case can be made (from a US interest point of view) that democracy is one of the worst things that could happen to some Middle East countries. Take a country like Iran, though - with a large youth population who are not radicals, embedded educational system and a political leader who’s about as popular as Pres Bush is, and things could work to our advantage.
Until the US press publishes all the classified programs that might help that happen -
By The AJC Censors Conservatives, Propagandizes For Al Qaeda
June 22, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
Listen to SuckieFace whine:
{{{“Your decision to except your office from the president’s order is problematic because it could place national security secrets at risk,” Waxman wrote in a letter to Cheney on Thursday.}}}
Poor wittle Waxman, Cheney won’t give him any secrets to splash on the front page of the New York Times.
Geez.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
YES THIS MARK LEVIN
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
MARK LEVIN STAYS BUSY
By getalife
June 22, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Actually, it helps keep it going without peace to feed his friends.
If it did work out, w would be praised for bringing democracy, if not his friends win anyway.
Of course, there is genocide, robbing the treasury and loss of respect from the world.
The costs are very high.
By AmVet
June 22, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
Edwin Meese! Now there’s a blast from the past!
Would that be the same attorney general that ignored the findings implicating the then President for illegally contravening the Arms Export Control Act?
Or would that be the Meese who investigated pornography in the United States; and release a report so ridiculous that itself became a target of widespread criticism. (See Meese vs. Playboy to see how a DC Federal Court had to step in with these little things called the First Amendment and Prior Restraint).
Repeat after me, neo-cons, “Less government intrusion in private lives!”
But on the other hand he replaced “too busy” Rudy on the Iraq Study Group that proposed large scale withdrawal of US Forces. And who knows what he contributed to that report, but maybe he’s dropped some of the hardcore neo-con nonsense.
Have a great weekend all!
By The Watcher
June 22, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Levin -
Did you catch this part
“Played a role in supporting Paula Jones during the Clinton sexual scandal by receiving funds from the Scaife Foundation and finding lawyers for Jones. Salon, “Newsreal: The men who kept Paula Jones lawsuit going”
Sounds real trustworthy
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Paul, Okay, I see, but still wasn’t Hamas elected by the people of Palestine?
I guess Bush can’t just come out and tell the truth — we are going to hold these “elections” but they don’t really count. I guess he can’t just put the people he wants in power, that’s illegal, isn’t it?
No wonder Jimmy is in an uproar.
Fatah doesn’t seem to be so much better, so we are taking them at their word that they will recognize Israel and presto things will be okay? Didn’t they get beat, so why not cozy up to the U.S. Wasn’t Arafat in the Fatah party?
By Paul
June 22, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
getalife 3:09
I think your first sentence has a lot of merit. But it’ll take a Fatah-like organization to negotiate mutual guarantees with the Israelis. Groups like Hamas aren’t too interested in negotiations. And I’m not sure even a Dem could push it through. If Iraq’s taught us anything it’s Infidel involvement in the Moslem state isn’t really all that appreciated by many - Same with Iraq - although they may get to the position you described by themselves if nothing else works.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
Getalife, Really, who cares about genocide, robbery of the American people, and our global respect. Pshaw! He’s only going to be president for 1 1/2 years (thank God) and after that he’ll be sitting in Crawford just laughing and laughing.
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
June 22, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
-=-
We have the knowledge and means to resolve our energy issues and create alternatives to fossil fuels — But we are still a society treats the earth as a Cheap and disposable!
Compressed Air vehicles.
and Yah want Speed in a very sexy electric car!
But again — we must bow down to big oil and coal! (and their cronies in Washington)
Cheers -
Thomas
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
Paul, Do you seriously think there is a “Fatah-like organization” anywhere in the world that would/could negotiate with Israel?
“If Iraq’s taught us anything it’s Infidel involvement in the Moslem state isn’t really all that appreciated by many”
Uh, yeah :-) You can say that again!
By Funny morons®
June 22, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
Do you think RW/Buy Dhimmi will click this link that clearly shows that the Vice President is member of the President’s cabinet therefore is under the EXECUTIVE BRANCH?
These Funny morons® make ridiculing them too easy.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
Didn’t we support Saddam Hussein during the Iran/Iraq war? Didn’t that not work out so well for us? Do we not learn from history or previous mistakes?
Can we please just leave the building that is the Middle East and just leave it the hell alone? (I know that is naive, but damn!)
By RW-(the original)
June 22, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
Am I honestly reading here that a guy that helps a poor woman, that’s been sexually molested by a powerful white male, get legal representation is a scumbag for doing that?
You moonbat(ic)s® slay me!
So when does Fitz get Nifonged?
The obligation to truth, the prosecutor argued, was of the highest importance, and one in which Mr. Libby had failed by perjuring himself. It would be hard to dispute the first contention. It is no less hard to avoid the memory of Mr. Fitzgerald’s own dubious relation to truth and honesty—as, for example, in his failure to disclose that he had known all along the identity of the person who had leaked the Valerie Plame story. That person, he knew, was Richard Armitage, deputy to Colin Powell. Not only had he concealed this knowledge—in what was, supposedly all that time, a quest to discover the criminals responsible for the leak of a covert agent’s name—he had instructed both Mr. Armitage and his superior, Colin Powell, in whom Mr. Armitage had confided, not to reveal the truth.
By RW-(the original)
June 22, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Unfunny Moron,
That White House link is interesting, but the White House doesn’t get to trump the Constitution with a web site.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
There is no land of Palestine. There’s a West Bank, a Gaza, but no Palestine. There is a Palestinian Authority, put in place by the Oslo Accords to oversee parts of the territories, and Fatah was the bulwark. It’s administrative - governs part of Gaza and West Bank. Getalife had it right - highly corrupt (remember the terrorist Yasser Arafat, whose wife is living in Paris? Spending - what - $50 mil? Pretty good savings for a president). That’s in part what led to Hamas support (Fatah has also recognized Israel’s right to exist) and their parliamentary (legislative) election majority. I don’t think we can think in terms of “Western democracy” when we describe the Palistinian political situation and elections. People voting does not a democracy make - especially when your political opponents have guns and use them.
By getalife
June 22, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Paul,
People in the ME do not get along with each other let alone us and Israel.
Fatah just wants the money but Hamas does help their people.
I think it is divided into two states now with litle violence.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Bosch 3:43
Fatah has already recognized Israel’s right to exist as it seeks the creation of a Palestinian state adjacent to Israel. Hamas has recognized their right to make sur Israel doesn’t exist.
getalife
Yeah, the situation there is a lot more complicated than is usually portrayed here. You are correct - Hamas has far more support, I think in part because they’re more of the Muslim Brotherhood Islamic radical nationalism thing while Fatah is a relatively new, administrative type creation. They may help some of the people (some of those in Gaza may disagree) :) but I still thinky they’re bad guys - but if that’s what the “Palestinians” want, well, it’s their decision. As are the consequences.
Fuel cells. Hydrogen. Even more ethanol, pollution and higher food costs, if that’s what it takes. I understand the sentiment, Bosch -
By RW-(the original)
June 22, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Well there’s just enough time to get in 18. Have a great weekend everybody!
By Dusty
June 22, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
You better do some thorough checking before you agree with anything getalife posts.
President Abbas,a member of the Fatah party, was elected as president to the Palestinian National Authority. Hamas, the other political party in Palestine is designated by the USA as a terrorist group. Palestinians voted for a majority of Hamas representatives in their congress. Hamas will not recognize Israel as a country and still sends rockets and suicide bombers into Israel. Hamas representatives have tried to overule the Fatah party and the elected president.
If you look at the map, the West ank ruled by Palestinians, is a territory on one side of Israel.Gaza is a small territory/city on the southern tip of Israel on the ocean side. Israel lies between them. Palestinians were given control of Gaza. Last week there was a battle between the two political factions over Gaza control. Hamas won and the whole city was a bloody riot, homes and stores ransacked and raided. Many Palestinians tried to escape to Israel for protection as Palestinians killed each other.
Supplies in Gaza are running low as Fatah is receiving little or no support from other countries. Some humanitarian aid is being allowed in. The militant terrorists there are still firing rockets into Israel and Israel is trying to demolish those shooting points. Some Arabs have said that Hamas is “nailing the last nail into the coffin” referring to Palestinian efforts at statehood.
USA and Israel are working with President Abbas and the Fatah party in the West Bank. He seems a rational, well educated man. There is hope that his power as elected president can be encouraged for peace. The Hamas party members are balking at any plans for the consolidated future of Palestine.
There have been many pictures in the news about the killings in Palestine.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Paul, I don’t think we can think in terms of “Western democracy” period when it comes to any country in the Middle East - and it’s highly arrogant and shows what a completely incompetent President we have that we are trying to do just that.
I’m sorry, but I don’t buy Fatah’s recognition of Israel — they’d probably love to see us “infidels” wiped off the map just the same as they would Israel, and mark my word, in a few years, our soldiers will be getting shot by our weapons we gave to Fatah.
I’m tired of the U.S. trying to fix the problems over in that hell hole. In my opinion, we need to take more of a Swiss approach and just get the hell out. Let the U.N. deal with the Middle East.
That’s it, I’m running for President.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Thanks Dusty.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Well, Bosch, it does get tricky. Pinning down anything definitive - adequately sourced - is tricky.
Evidently it was the PLO, not Fatah, that recognized Isreal’s right to exist after Oslo. Also to renounce terrorism. We know how that worked out. But Fatah, as a party, did not sign the accords and has not officially recognized Israel. But the Fatah leader, Abbas, has, to Western leaders. Then followed up with speeches to Arab audiences saying the opposite. And a couple days ago he said there would/could be formal recognition:
Link: Fatah to recognize Isreal?
All this is, of course, subject to further clarification/changes/contradictions/reversals as the situations warrants.
Dusty
Hamas is heavily supported/sponsored by Iran. And some wonder why Iran having nukes wouldn’t be a peachy idea.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
you got my vote, bosch!
By IN THE NEWS
June 22, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Perino Confirms White House Canceled Meeting On Guantanamo Closure After AP Report
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Right out of Hillary’s playbook, we now we have IN THE TABLOID NEWS linking to disparaging stories that call Mark Levin “Cabin Boy” and all innuendo that that implies.
We also have The Watcher complaining that Levin helped Paula Jones in her largely successful sexual harassment lawsuit against Billy Jeff.
Nothing like stabbing your core constituency in the back by smearing them personally, while proving absolutely NOTHING about Levin’s position on free speech.
Except to make it demonstrably obvious that you oppose it.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Thanks Raisedanidiot! Since you are the first to endorse me, I’ll make sure you have a sweet job in my cabinet. Who else is with me?
Paul -
AHA!!! I knew it! Well, I didn’t KNOW it, but I knew it was too good to be true. Gee, I kind of feel like you’ve done my homework for me. See, I’d make the PERFECT President! Do you want to be my campaign manager? If you’ll endorse me, I’ll give you a sweet job too. The first 15 or so to endorse me can be my cabinet. After all, you don’t actually need qualifications to have those posts, do you?
I think they all (Fatah, Hamas, the entire Arab world) hate us and will stab us in the back the first chance they get.
Okay, here is my platform:
1) Get out of Iraq, bring our troops home - never send another troop to the Middle East ever again (at least publically - covertly, yes, but that will be top secret).
2) Use our military to secure our borders and keep any crazed terrorist who decides to follow us home out of the country
3) Use half the money we save by never sending another troop to the Middle East and spend it on alternative fuels, bike paths, and diet programs (I actually got that idea from somebody earlier - I’ll make sure to give you credit)
4) the other half of the money we save will go towards security infrastructures to help ward off attacks like 9/11
The rest I will think over the weekend and get back with you. Remember the first 15 to endorse me get sweet jobs in the Cabinet.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
Bosch
Okay, I know where Israel is, but where the heck is “Isreal”?!?
So you’re running for President? Good on ya’!
How about a little truth advertising?
Your campaign slogan: “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.”
And the name of your new party - the “BOHICA Party.”
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
All Hail to the Chief!! Finally, a candidate I can get behind…can I be minister of gay and lesbian affairs and send Rev. Phelps to prison to be somebody’s butt b***, and put his 13 children and 50 however many grandchildren in a socially diverse school where they will undoubtedly be free to be the little queers I’m sure they’re itching to be?
By Dusty
June 22, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Well, I must make one correction.
HAMAS is receiving little support from other nations.Fatah Party is receiving support. Iran may be helping Hamas in their terrorist efforts but I haven’t heard anything about humanitarian efforts. I guess that is not too important to them.
I think the world expects the USA to have a say in many conflicts. Even as many bad things are said about the USA by it’s own citizens, the USA is still considered the greatest and most dependable and powerful helper on the globe.
Our president has looked to the future and seen the dangers of terrorism. He knew where it originated and where it thrived. He has decided the best way to stall and stop it’s growth is to fight it.
All has not gone well but the goal is still there and there are many quiet victories. To control terrorism has always been the goal.
I think history will credit President Bush with much foresight. Success is not assured as many of the weak willed have pressured us to believe. But the goal is still there and we fight for it. Well, most of us.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
Dusty
Good points. Goes right along with one of my stock questions (which I’d love to see put to the candidates, even Bosch):
Take Iraq out of the equation. It never happened. Or it’s over. Just make it not a factor. Question is: now what?
I’ve a feeling the answers would be:
You read it right -
By getalife
June 22, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
Yes, I bet you would to take Iraq out of the equation but in reality it breeds terrorism.
From the bombing of their children, to the millions of refugees, it has made the situation worse.
The NIE report states this obvious fact.
CNN just reported on the CIA files released from the sixties. Kissenger covered it up on the illegal spying of Americans and the kicker is one of them was Britt Hume.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
by dusty: “think history will credit President Bush with much foresight”…what foresight is that? The foresight to protect his own interest? Yeah, he’s real good at that…everything his admin. does is carefully orchestrated to further Rove and crownies warped agenda…the only reason the rest of the world expects us to butt in is because we’re notorious for sticking our noses where it stinks…oh to have the isolationist days of pre ww2 back…can we make that happen, Pres. Bosch?
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
Wait, I’ve thought of more -
First of all, Raisedanidiot, we’ll make that a new cabinet post. You’re in. Jobs yours. Of course, unless you want to be the Attorney General.
Second, Paul, you check my spelling on all outgoing correspondence. Love the campaign slogan and the party name. You’re in too.
Buy Danish can be the Director of Complaints Department because she’s not afraid to tell people to GFY.
Here’s some more campaign stuff:
a) Soccer is declared the national sport - baseball is for losers and all the players are strung out on steroids. And everyone gets free access to Fox Soccer Channel
b) Every American gets one free plane ticket a year to go anywhere in the world they want - after all, we’ve put enough money in the airlines and they still loose our baggage
c) Dressing up as a clown is a crime punishable by instant decapitation - although that may loose the clown vote, they can get other jobs, like mimes or something like that
d) Anyone caught talking on their cell phone in a restaurant will spend the next year in prison
e) Four day work weeks
f) all CEOs of publically traded companies will have to report to me once a year and be held accountable for their million dollar salaries - they will have to prove to me they actually worked to make that money.
Okay, still thinking - more to come.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
getalife
taking Iraq out of the equation, I just meant, not that the focus isn’t on Iraq, what do candidates expect to do about the larger issue of radical Islam? If we never invaded Iraq? Or were out completely? (Not Hillary’s plan, BTW). It’d be directed at Hillary and Obama ‘cause they’re about the only Democratic candidates who even think it’s a problem.
Brit Hume? See? He’s really a liberal! Not really - Nixon was paranoid. But the same stuff was going on for years under Johnson and JFK and way before - but with the domestic FBI and J Edgar Hoover.
Wanna see what’s in your file?
By Dusty
June 22, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this
Well, Bosch
I am SURE that you would love to have me in your cabinet( thus the engraved invitation) but I am very busy with a Double Birthday Bash tomorrow. TWO birthday cakes are ready. (Sorry, Paul, they are not homemade since I can’t even decorate a valentine). This party will cover the important issues of the world with icing. Couldn’t bear to leave it for the Isolationist BOSCH Brouhah Party.
But I’m sure the cabinet meetings will be merry and cherry, ‘specially if Paul brings his favorite bottles of happiness.
Good weekend to all!!
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
Raisedanidiot, Of course, we are going to be the new Switzerland. Let the U.N. deal with all the unpleasantries of war. That’s what we pay them for, isn’t it?
By Alex
June 22, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Dusty, shut up. you’re an embarrassment to humanity. Well it’s that time of week again. Time for you right wing white trash to cover your demented shaved heads with ball caps, slip into your giant tees and your filthy flip-flops, grab the PU/SUV keys and race to your nearest beer hole for a weekend with the…guys. A shame children can’t divorce their fathers - this country and its future would be far more healthy. Oh - don’t forget NACAR. Hit jus don’t git no better’n this, do hit? Hillbillies.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Dusty, If you are one of the first 15 to endorse me, you get to pick your post. My cabinet is open to all — makes it more fair and non-partisan.
That’s part of the BOHICA mission.
By rushncap
June 22, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
Bosch — Fatah started out as radical an organization as Hamas is today. The thing is, the same thing happened to them as what happens to gangsta rappers who become famous and wealthy: they go mainstream and lose “street cred”. Fatah got a taste of power, and money that comes along with it, and mellowed out, because chaos prevents one from enjoying a nice life. So they were overtaken by a younger, more radical, more street-based organization - Hamas. These are the people who refuse to moderate, refuse to calm down. Hamas, much like the Bush administration, actually, believes that “strength” means stubbornness and unwillingness to recognize reality in favor of killing whoever stands in its way. If Hamas gets access to unfettered power, it too will mellow out. And so the cycle goes.
By raisedanidiot
June 22, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
lol!!! you guys crack me up…gotta go to work…tune in tomorrow same bat station
By Paul
June 22, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Bosch
Okay, para “b” - it’s lose, not loose.
Remember Top Gun? Maverick to Iceman? Yeah, right - YOU can be MY wingman.
As getalife says, geez.
Save the plane tickets. Take the money and fix the cell phone problem. Israelis make a neat little cell phone jammer. Illegal as all getout. But you can buy them in NYC for under a grand. Have an effective range big enough for a restaurant or theater. Buy one of those for each business as a public service. And put’em in schools - stop the cheating.
Anyone who makes up new meanings for words - like “Progressive” for “Liberal” will have to answer to Buy Danish.
Pretty good ideas. They’ll get better when the Belgian ale gets opened -
By getalife
June 22, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Methinks Britt was blackmailed. He was with an investigative reporter and then suddenly is the biggest gop wh-ore on the planet.
I wonder how many Americans were blackmailed. The CIA called these documents “the family jewels”.
Amazing stuff.
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
Paul, Me YOUR wingman? I don’t think so. You just watch my back (and spelling). AND OF COURSE we make Belgian Ale the national drink. Gets utilized at all Cabinet meetings and State Dinners.
The cell phone jammers? Who cares if it’s illegal, we can MAKE it legal. (Seriously, don’t you absolutely hate socially dysfunctional fools who think we want to hear their conversations in restaurants?)
Rushncap, Thanks for the absolutely perfect analysis of Hamas/Fatah. I wondered why the party of Yassir Arafat was all the rage now, but that makes sense.
Do you want to be my Secretary of Science and Technology? You can work on the alternative fuel thing. Free federal funding—all you want, lab assistants, grad students, the works, hell, I’ll even let you use federal funding for Belgian Ale after a long hard day in the lab. Just let me know.
Okay, I’m off to a party. After a few Belgian Ales, I’ll have more.
Have a great weekend!
By Paul
June 22, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this
Alex
Chill. We’re having a good time here.
Bosch
I have a friend who, while in restaurants near loud, obnoxious cell phone talkers, would stare at them and take part in the conversation, saying just as loud “Really? You did? What happened then?” He was big enough to get away with it -
You have a good weekend, too. I’m gone.
Cheers, all -
By Bosch
June 22, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
Oh, and one more thing before I leave - The guy who killed the bear in Helen with a tree log, he gets to be the head of the Secret Service. I mean, damn, can you believe that?
Okay, signing off, I hope you all have a terrific, relaxing, wonderful weekend!
By getalife
June 22, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
Now they done it, attacking Rush and Hannity and talk radio.
Inhofe made up a story blaming Clinton and Boxer.
He changed his story.
Geez.
By Paul
June 22, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
getalife
Another dropped post. Was about other domestic spying - FBI, J Edgar Hoover - went on for years. Gave him a lot of power with files on other officials. Also made a lot of money at the tracks - place bets at the dollar window on longshots that came in. His assistant placed hundred and thousand-dollar bets on the same races. Amazing how good some Sicilian/Italian acquaintances who were with an Organization that didn’t exist could call winners at the races.
Inhofe changed his story? A politician changed his story? This is just too much to handle. The ale beckons.
Have a good weekend -
By Buy Danish
June 22, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this
Here’s a great article by Fred Siegel on a topic near and dear to my heart. Europeans are having second thoughts about their coddling of Islamists.
Sarkozy’s road to the Elysee Palace was paved not only by the mini-Intifada in the Paris banlieues, but also by a memorable public exchange about Islam. An intellectually confident Sarkozy, then the interior minister, debated suave, articulate Tariq Ramadan, the grandson and heir of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. With 6 million viewers watching, Sarkozy asked Ramadan, famed as an Islamic version of a Euro-Communist, if he agreed with his brother Hani Ramadan—who had argued, in line with Muslim law, that adulterous women should be stoned to death. Pressed to agree or disagree without obfuscation, Ramadan, his Western facade crumbling, said he favored a “moratorium” on such stoning. Sarkozy responded with anger, “A moratorium?” He went on to mock the Islamists’ leftist apologists. “If it is regressive not to want to stone women, I avow that I am a regressive.”
Who know! Maybe even some of the AJC apologists will get the message:
{{{Writing in the Observer, the jihad-friendly Guardian’s Sunday paper, left-wing journalist Will Hutton has admitted that “the space in which to argue that Islam is an essentially benign religion seems to narrow with every passing day.”}}}
AND the money quote -
{{{The British have tried multiculturalism; the tolerant Dutch have allowed Muslims to create a separate “pillar” within their society; the French insist on the model of Jacobin uniformity; the Spanish have been merely craven. All have failed. But as Hutton argues, the best route for the West is to be true to its own heritage.}}}
That will be sure to alarm many of you.
Tant pis.
By Political Foreskin
June 22, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
THe Vatican Lube Job
The engine light came on driving to work today. Do I need a mechanic or a priest?
“Bless me Father, for I have sinned, my last oil change was 3000 miles ago….”
By Political Foreskin
June 22, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
John Edwards talked about his run for office on David Letterman last night. he said that he doesn’t crave the white house, but there are things he wants to do that only a first lady can do……