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By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
Bush Shafts Enron’s Victims… AGAIN!
Wall Street’s investment banks just got another step closer to making defrauding investors an accepted line of business. And Enron’s employees who lost their pensions and the small investors who got fleeced in the Enron frauds just got shafted again — this time at the urging of President George W. Bush.
By Cowards Whining To The AJC, Waaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
I wouldn’t read a Jay Kookman column if he was the last writer alive on the planet but I do have a sharp eye for sensationalized headlines:
{{{This drought just dry run to real crisis By Jay Kookman The Atlanta Urinal Published on: 06/14/07 Drought? You call this a drought?}}}
Drought!?! You call this a drought!?!
What a goony.
The good news is, when ever these goofy liberals take advantage of a normal weather event to scare monger their junk science ideas on “global warming” mother nature usually unleashes a torrent the exact opposite of what the lib is shrieking about.
So look for copious amounts of rain in our future.
Kowards.
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True blue liberals, it’s not that most people don’t want to listen to a pig that hates America, no, they find excuses in their little boogey man America:
{{{Admitting that they overpaid for Couric, who apparently brought very little of her Today audience with her to CBS, would also make Moonves look like an idiot. Therefore, Moonves and his team at CBS want to shift blame to the people they supposedly serve — the audience. It’s a strange strategy. Does Moonves really think that he can attract new viewers by accusing them of being chauvinist pigs?}}}
I would suggest moving your hate America operation to France but they are getting tired of you libs too.
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By Cowards Whining To The AJC, Waaahhhhhhh!!!!!!
June 14, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
{{{Last fall, Mr. Rezko was indicted on federal charges of business fraud and influence peddling involving the administration of Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois, whose picture was also on Mr. Rezko’s wall. Since then, Mr. Obama, a Democrat, has had to answer questions about a land deal with Mr. Rezko’s wife, Rita, and about other ties to him.}}}
Uh-oh, looks like Snowflake might be melting.
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{{{Few of these well-paid and highly educated people live in communities altered by huge influxes of illegal aliens. Their professed liberality about illegal immigration usually derives from seeing hardworking waiters, maids, nannies and gardeners commute to their upscale cities and suburbs to serve them well - and cheaply. In general, such elites don’t use emergency rooms in the inner cities and rural counties overcrowded by illegal aliens. They don’t drive on country roads frequented by those without licenses, registration and insurance. And their children don’t struggle with school curricula altered to the needs of students who speak only Spanish.}}}
And being blindly immersed in their elite ignorance, they blame the president for all of these problems.
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By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
How can anyone NOT agree with this?
By Mrs. Godzilla
June 14, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
There is only one thing to do
By Mike
June 14, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this
Wow. Another attack on Bush. This is some real cutting edge commentary Mike. Yawn.
Any chance you might get around to criticizing the current Congress, which has approval ratings as low as Bush? You “speaking truth to power” and what not?
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
That so many Senate Republicans supported an attorney general that they cannot bring themselves to defend shows that politics is not behind the drive to force him out. It’s behind the insistence that he stay
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
Tee-hee! Clever ‘toon again, ML! Those disabled water fowl can give the AFLAC duck some competition…
By Mike
June 14, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this
Whoops I was wrong. Congress’s approval ratings are not as low as Bush’s. They are six points lower than Bush’s.
I guess Mikey must be “living in a bubble” or something. Either that, or he is just an intellectually dishonest partisan.
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
What’s finally coming into view is just what George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, the top officials of their administration, the civilian leadership at the Pentagon, and their neocon followers had in mind when they invaded and occupied Iraq in 2003.
By candide
June 14, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this
Bush is a dead duck, not a lame duck!
This could have been predicted. The Bush family is capable of producing only misfits and crooks.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
It’s amusing that conservatives don’t acknowledge that the low approval ratings for Congress are across the board. Sure we’re angry at the spineless Democrats but America is equally angry at the obstructionist tactics of the GOP members.
One example is that a huge number of GOPers chastise Gonzalez and say they want him out but hardly any voted for the no-confidence bill.
They’re ALL dishonest.
By Jesus
June 14, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By twk
June 14, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
Funny cartoon Mike, I would be pi—— to if I were a duck.
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
Funny Morons, there obviously are a lot of you morons out there. (8:10) How can anyone NOT agree with THIS?? Easy, we are a republic, not a Socialist society.
What’s next? A free 3000 sq. ft. home for every family of four? How about a 6000 sq. ft. house if you have more than 4 in your family? Hey! I know, a new car every 3 years for every registered Democrat.
The ‘vote buying ways’ of the left are getting more and more obvious.
Michael Moron is the left’s hero. To every educated person he is the king of fiction.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
{{{Hamas fighters overran one of the rival Fatah movement’s most important security installations in the Gaza Strip on Thursday, and witnesses said the victors dragged vanquished gunmen from the building and killed them in the street.}}}
Huh, I always thought America and Israel were the problem over there, at least that’s what you Cowards told us, why are these people killing themselves?
Savages, no?
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By Bosch
June 14, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Very funny cartoon! Poor ducks.
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
“An internal FBI audit has found that the bureau potentially violated the law or agency rules more than 1,000 times while collecting data about domestic phone calls, e-mails and financial transactions in recent years, far more than was documented in a Justice Department report in March that ignited bipartisan congressional criticism.”
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this
Earmark-Loving Conservatives Threaten To Shut Down Congress
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
{{What’s next? A free 3000 sq. ft. home for every family of four?}}
This guy ^^^ is obviously in the pockets of our corrupt insurance industry and screams “socialism” if we even talk about reforming our healthcare system… where’s his outrage in having all Americans covered for police and fire protection, for instance? Is that also part of the “socialist” agenda?
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
Israel’s evacuation of the Gaza Strip really worked out well didn’t it?
{{{Hamas fighters overran one of the rival Fatah movement’s most important security installations in the Gaza Strip on Thursday, and witnesses said the victors dragged vanquished gunmen from the building and killed them in the street.
“They are executing them one by one,” Abu Ayad said. “They are carrying one of them on their shoulders, putting him on a sand dune, turning him around and shooting.”
Some of the Hamas fighters kneeled down outside the building, touching their foreheads to the ground in prayer.}}}
“We are telling our people that the past era has ended and will not return, ” Islam Shahawan, a spokesman for Hamas’ militia, told Hamas radio. “The era of justice and Islamic rule have arrived.”
By Lord Help Us
June 14, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
Furthermore…as I understand, some of these brave aquatic feathered friends received their injuries in their unappreciated ‘War on Greenskeepers.’
The similarities with Bush’s ‘War on Terror’ are startling…startling, I say.
Canadian Geese (CG) comprise about 98% of the ‘Coalition of the Pooping,’ and, the escalation in the number of greens and greenskeepers since the initial invasion has marked a major failure in their strategy and execution.
The CG have recently deployed a ‘surge’ in their numbers to boost the amount of poop on the greens in a last gasp effort.
So far the results are disappointing…and difficult to putt through…
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
19: Percentage of Americans who think the country is on the right track in a new NBC/WSJ poll out tonight, the lowest figure in 15 years. President Bush’s approval rating is at an all-time low of 29 percent. NBC’s Brian Williams reported:
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
Good point in your 8:45 Goldie.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Maybe he thought Mrs. Godzilla was going to lead a peace march and save him?
The moderate President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, ———>for the first time in five days of fierce fighting, <———ordered his elite presidential guard to strike back. But his forces were crumbling fast under the onslaught by the better-armed and better-disciplined Islamic fighters.
Or maybe he conferred with Nancy Pelosi for his military strategy.
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Gore’s ‘92 speech on Iraq — and why the right has it wrong
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
“What’s next? A free 3000 sq. ft. home for every family of four? How about a 6000 sq. ft. house if you have more than 4 in your family? Hey! I know, a new car every 3 years for every registered Democrat.
The ‘vote buying ways’ of the left are getting more and more obvious.”
Huh? What in the hell are you talking about?
By w00t
June 14, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Hey, little right of center, did you forget the whole part of LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? There are people out there that cannot afford Health insurance, and it’s not just your minimum wage earners either, its families with children, or people that are denied coverage for pre existing conditions. Had a heart attack? Oh, we’re sorry but we cannot cover you, our shareholder’s wouldn’t be happy. Wives and husbands have to work past retirement so that their loved ones can continue to receive health care. You certainly could not tell them to pay for thousands of dollars of treatments. Put yourself in these people’s shoes for a change and see how you would fee.
The health care system in this country is a joke. No one seems to care until they NEED health care.
I guess we should change Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to: Life (only if you’re healthy and not dying so that insurance companies turn massive profits where they can give the money in campaign donations to politicians that have no soul, liberty (we’re working on this too), and the pursuit of happiness (oh, but not to happy, the terrorists are coming to eat you, and, oh yeah, it’s not covered by insurance).
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
Sounds to me like “Little Right of Center” is an exaggeration. Sounds like they are “Alot Right of Center.”
w00t, of course LROC doesn’t care about those without health insurance. People like him/her think that it’s people’s own fault if they don’t have health insurance. After all, they are probably just too lazy to have a decent job.
Life in their world is perfect, where no one gets sick, no one ever looses a job, there is plenty of money to get anything they want, two SUVS in every garage, and fairies sprinkle special fairy dust on their sleeping children every night so that they will never have to know about grief and suffering or anything bad.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Let’s approach this another way for the slow learners.
Why would it be a bad thing for EVERY American to have full, uninterrupted health care?
How do private, FOR-PROFIT health insurance companies benefit the average American? They look at the bottom line before looking at what’s best for the patient.
Since we strictly regulate the profits of utility companies why not do the same for big pharma? Some senior citizens often must choose between food and their much needed medicine. It isn’t like that in other countries. Why here?
I would think that this issue would be one that unites Americans rather than divide them. It’s one boat we’re all in together.
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Goldielocks (8:45) Your blondness is showing.
We can talk about reforming our healthcare system. I think that is a good idea. However, making healthcare an entitlement for EVERY person is a socialism.
Have you ever called the fire department and had them respond to your address? If not you may not know about the little BILL they send you after the fact for their ‘protection’. I’m not aware of the police protecting anyone other than a politician or celebrity. However, they will come and make a report AFTER something happens.
You are still trying to compare apples to oranges to defend an un-defendable position, again. Do you ever think before you share your ignorance?
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
””“”The ease with which the Bush administration generally, and its spokespeople in particular, lies still manages to astonish me, even after six and a half years. Take a look at this story from Reuters about the theft of Bush’s watch in Albania:
Albanian police say the reports of President Bush’s watch being stolen while greeting the crowd in Tirana are untrue. However, video from the presidential visit shows that while he began to work the crowd with a timepiece on his left arm, within seconds it was gone. “The story is untrue and the president did not lose his watch,” a spokesman for the embassy in Tirana said. The article is accompanied by footage clearly showing that the watch was stolen, yet a spokesman for the U.S. embassy echoed the statements of the Albanian police (who are clearly embarrassed by the episode).
I don’t know which possibility is most frightening: 1) that the administration has so little respect for the intelligence of the American public that it thinks it can get away with saying literally anything, no matter how untrue, and no matter how strong the evidence against it; 2) that the administration knows that 70% of the American public won’t believe them, but only cares about the 30% that will believe them; or 3) that the administration actually believes its own lies.
Personally, I think it’s all three: they started out believing their own lies, then moved on to thinking that they could say anything whether it was true or not, and have now reached the point where they only care about the 30% of the American public who will always believe whatever they say.”“”
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
{{{{{Throw-Away Line Of the Day 13 Jun 2007 07:49 pm
“Mr. Lago is the mayor of this scenic Swedish town of 60,000 people [Sodertalje], which last year took in twice as many Iraqi refugees as the entire United States…” - NYT today. Hey, since his college days, someone else has always had to clean up after Bush’s messes. }}}}
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
lroc, You should really watch who you call ignorant before making remarks such as “I’m not aware of the police protecting anyone other than a politician or celebrity. However, they will come and make a report AFTER something happens.”
Um, so are you saying that the police should come BEFORE something happens? Are they supposed to know when a crime happens before it happens? I saw a movie about this once, Minority Report, they knew about murders before they happened and went and arrested the people before they could kill someone. But that was fiction.
You are brainwashed — are you suggesting that there are some Americans who you feel do not deserve to have access to healthcare? Please, enlighten us, who are these Americans you speak of who do not deserve healthcare. Just curious.
You are really laying on the b****** thick this morning.
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
{{Have you ever called the fire department and had them respond to your address? If not you may not know about the little BILL they send you after the fact for their ‘protection’. I’m not aware of the police protecting anyone other than a politician or celebrity. However, they will come and make a report AFTER something happens.}}
WHA’???
Way Right— I may be blonde, but you’re just downright ignorant because of some kind of brain-damage, I suppose.
And yes, I have had the fire dept. respond to a neighborhood fire and no one received your phantom “BILL” for the service either.
Ignorant fool.
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
{{Personally, I think it’s all three: they started out believing their own lies,}}
News— it certainly IS frightening what this fascist-leaning White House has done to America! They no longer care about answering to anyone other than their 29% Club, and even that Club is abandoning Bush for his immigrant sympathies…
By Partial List of Socialist Countrys
June 14, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
Canada
Denmark (Yes, it is good to buy Danish)
Norway
Sweden
Great Britain
Spain
Germany
France
All have lower infant mortality rates and longer life expectancies.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
There isn’t a single person in this country that doesn’t have access to health care so that’s just a straw man with a bleeding heart.
If you want to reform the insurance industry let’s start by getting rid of all the ridiculous special needs someone has to buy to get coverage. If I want to buy a policy that covers me for catastrophic illness or injury and pay for maintenance type doctor visits out of pocket I should be able to, but government intervention by liberals prevents that.
Basically you socialists set up an unworkable system by making everybody pay for things like gender change to get any health coverage just so that you could knock it down and take over control of our lives.
Go visit your local Social Security office and see a tiny fraction of how bad your local government health care clinic will be. If it takes six months to get a passport just think how long your government bypass will take. If the government controlled borders let 25,000,000 people come in without a clue how they got here just wait until you need a diagnosis at your government clinic.
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
No Drop in Iraq Violence Seen Since Troop Buildup
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
Goldie, Didn’t that statement LROC made about the police and fire department just make you laugh out loud? I almost blew coffee out my nose.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
Goldielocks,
You should study the definition of fascism and then read some of Hillary’s recent speeches. It might open your eyes.
PLoSC,
That infant mortality rate is simply because many countries do nothing to save the lives of premature babies or those born with defects and don’t ever count them as a life. In the US we try to save even the most hopeless case and always count them in our infant mortality figures.
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Bosch @ 9:36 — I know. I was spitting out my Chardonnay while reading some of the wingnuts’ rants this morning…
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this
RW, You are laying on the b****** early this morning too. You are speaking in hypotheticals, not reality. I know how the healthcare systems work in Europe, they work just fine. It is corporate greed of insurance, pharmaceutical companies, and HMOs that are ruining our healthcare system, not us “socialists.”
When is the last time you applied for a passport? I don’t know what all the hoopla is over that. Got mine renewed in about 4 weeks recently.
I’m also talking about American citizens here, not the millions of illegal immigrants.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
LROC’s statement about the police isn’t without merit. Several jurisdictions in Gwinnett county have started fining home and business owners for being targets of gang vandalism. Don’t you think it might be nice if they would make some attempt to break up and/or prosecute the gangs instead of fining the victims for not hiding the evidence fast enough?
By w00t
June 14, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
oh, RW, whatever! Are you’re saying that countries like the UK have lower infant deaths because they DON’t CARE and so they do not count them as deaths? Stop trying to make it out like the US is on a moral high ground because its not. IF you used that same logic for BABIES, why not use it for people walking around. I guess baby abortion and people aborion are two different things. Oh, this guy is 50 years old, he had a good run. You can’t put people down like horses.
By Lord Help Us
June 14, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
RW - (the obfuscator),
{{Basically you socialists set up an unworkable system by making everybody pay for things like gender change to get any health coverage just so that you could knock it down and take over control of our lives.}}
The intentions you ascribe to ‘socialists’ sound like a real ditto-head fantasy. Of course, you are welcome to provide proof to back up your theory…oh, nevermind…
Are you aware that, going back to 1980, Republicans have been in the Whitehouse for roughly 19 of the last 27 years (with 12 straight years of majority in Congress)?
And, that Republicans controlled both the Executive and Legislative branches for the last 6 years?
Did these ‘socialists…take over control of our lives’ during this stretch of Republican control?
Or, have the Republicans been complicit in this nefarious scheme?
Please elaborate…
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Yes, RW, I do think that would be nice. What are you talking about? Please give me an example of these fines. Seriously, I’m curious. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gwinnett was doing that.
Gwinett County is probably one of the most retarded counties in terms of EVERYTHING I can think of. Why anyone would live there is totally beyond me.
But, to make sweeping ignorant statements like the one he made, is truly unbelieveable.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
I don’t think a renewal is the same as a new application, but that kind of obfuscation is your specialty. So let’s say you have a heart attack today, would you be happy to wait four weeks for treatment? Let’s try getting the freaking government out of our lives for a change. Look what they’ve done to destroy the education system.
Strange that with the fabulous health care everywhere but the US that people stream into here to be treated so often. Why do you suppose that is?
By The Watcher
June 14, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
””“That infant mortality rate is simply because many countries do nothing to save the lives of premature babies or those born with defects and don’t ever count them as a life. In the US we try to save even the most hopeless case and always count them in our infant mortality figures.”“”“
In Sweden? Norway? Denmark? Canada?
Talk about a straw man.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
“That infant mortality rate is simply because many countries do nothing to save the lives of premature babies or those born with defects and don’t ever count them as a life.”
That is the second best ignorant statement of the day, just behind the police/fire department one.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
So the Democrats are going to start turning up the heat on Iraq — again. That’s what the majority of the American people want. The question is whether the Republicans in the Senate will keep doing Bush’s dirty work. So far, they’ve stuck with Bush — no questions asked.
By The Watcher
June 14, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
“”you socialists set up an unworkable system by making everybody pay for things like gender change”“”
Just where did you get this info?
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
The American Heritage dictionary’s definition of fascism:
{“NOUN: 1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.
ETYMOLOGY: Italian fascismo, from fascio, group, from Late Latin fascium, from Latin fascis, bundle.”}
Hmmm… let’s see: “suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism”… certainly sounds like Rover’s White House these days!
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
{{{A major, new problem popped up on the International Space Station on Wednesday as space shuttle astronauts finished installing a new solar-power unit — the failure of key computers that could in an extreme scenario force the crew off the station, officials said.}}}
Maybe when this thing comes crashing down into the Earth it will free up a bunch of NASA technicians to go splash around in the ocean looking for warm spots they can blame on man?
Or maybe it will crash into the ocean and warm up that spot and we will have conclusive proof of man made “global warming?”
Geez.
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By Goldie
June 14, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
{{The question is whether the Republicans in the Senate will keep doing Bush’s dirty work. So far, they’ve stuck with Bush}}
Funny Mo— I think quite a few Repugs will change their Iraq stance, especially if the Iraqi Parliament still insists on taking their 2-month vacation this summer while our American troops are giving up their lives every day. I think we’ll see quite a few Repugs changing their minds about having to “win” in Iraq (whatever that means) and they finally will vote to draw down our troops…
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
RW, One of my kids just got a NEW passport too. Again, took about 4 weeks.
“So let’s say you have a heart attack today, would you be happy to wait four weeks for treatment?”
No I wouldn’t be happy to wait four weeks for treatment if I had a heart attack. Do you think that people who live in countries where there is socialized medicine have to wait four weeks for treatment? Have you ever left your house? No, they do not.
Let me tell you a little about how medicine in Europe works. For one thing, most Europeans do not go to the doctor unless they are sick. They do not succumb to the brainwashing that Americans fall for that every time they sneeze, they must go get an antibiotic from a doctor. They do not sit around in fear that they have brain tumors. They go to the doctor when they are sick or have a medical emergency. They do not have to wait four weeks for emergency treatment.
Sure, you are right about some routine procedures. You may have to wait a while for something like an MRI, but not if you are sick or your life is in danger.
Also, I don’t think it is our fabulous healthcare system that attracts illegal immigrants to this country. That may be one piece of the puzzle, but it is certainly not the only reason.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
{{{By Goldie June 14, 2007 9:41 AM Bosch @ 9:36 — I know. I was spitting out my Chardonnay while reading some of the wingnuts’ rants this morning…}}}
Goldilocks hammering on the wine at 9:30 in the morning, with her whine no less, sure does answer a lot of questions.
Can you imagine the huge rolling waves of paranoia, followed by hysteria, topped of with elation?
No wonder she doesn’t make any damn sense at all.
Geez.
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By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this
I hope you’re right Goldie. Not all Republicans are brain dead moronic lap dogs.
By GodHatesTrash
June 14, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
George Dumbya Bush not only ruins the reputation of disabled ducks, but the reputation of filthy rednecks as well, since he is one of those too.
You redneck redstate morons elected one of your own - a filthy stupid alcoholic ambisexual redneck. Thanks for trashing our country, trash.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Bosch,
Call it ignorant if you want, but anyone that checks the facts will find that my statement is the true one and yours is Moorelike propaganda.
Since I don’t work for the government like every one of you liberals I’ve got to get to work. I know I know you get your ten minutes of government work done so your boss lets you blog all day. Keep in mind your ten minute workday when you want to turn our health over to more lazy trolls like you.
By w00t
June 14, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
AndyDull, you sir are a jerk. I guess you don’t mind the crew of the space station to lose their lives anymore than the lives of those over in Iraq.
I bet you don’t even believe in the moon landings, since you have very little understanding of science anyway.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
“So let’s say you have a heart attack today, would you be happy to wait four weeks for treatment?”
Of course not. Countries with socialized medicine don’t wait four weeks either.
On the other hand countries with socialized medicine don’t refuse treatment to patients to bolster the bottom line for investors either.
By GodHatesTrash
June 14, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
George Dumbya Bush not only ruins the reputation of disabled ducks, but the reputation of filthy rednecks as well, since he is one of those too.
You redneck redstate morons elected one of your own - a filthy stupid alcoholic ambisexual redneck. Thanks for trashing our country, trash.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
RW,you are a paid troll for the AJC, your running away because you know I’m right. I don’t work for the government either. I just happen to know a little bit about how things work in Europe. I actually KNOW people who live there, people who are citizens of the “socialist” countries who do very well.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
Great toon Mike.
Its funny watching the gop telling the lame duck to back off or the gop candidates laughing at him.
Today, Libby gets locked up.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
“Since I don’t work for the government like every one of you liberals I’ve got to get to work. I know I know you get your ten minutes of government work done so your boss lets you blog all day. Keep in mind your ten minute workday when you want to turn our health over to more lazy trolls like you.”
IS this guy getting more and more delusional or is he like this all the time?
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
RW has to get to another blog. He’s been had here, so he has to move on to where he can try to spew his b******.
By Educated Person
June 14, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
Michael Moron is the left’s hero. To every educated person he is the king of fiction. (8:37AM)
YOU, my friend, are living in a dream world!!! Just ask a Canadian what they think of Canada’s healthcare system vs. the US.
By B.S. Translations
June 14, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
””“”Call it ignorant if you want, but anyone that checks the facts will find that my statement is the true one and yours is Moorelike propaganda.”“”
Translates to:
It sounded good when I posted it, I read it in an unsigned e-mail or something and it’s easier to throw out a tired old insult than to fact check myself”
Gotta Run! Tee Time at 10:30!
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
FM, Buy Danish should be posting any minute now. RW has been b*** slapped, so BD/RW will move in to take his place.
By B.S. Translations
June 14, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
””“”YOU, my friend, are living in a dream world!!! Just ask a Canadian what they think of Canada’s healthcare system vs. the US. “”“”
Translates to the same thing as RW’s evasive sillimess.
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
Michael Moore is full of it. First he tries to tell us that the American auto industry is in trouble. Then he comes up with this crazy idea that we kill each other more than they do in other Western Countries. Then he tries to tell us that the Iraq war wasn’t such a hot idea and now he says that health may be too expensive.
I mean where does he come up with this stuff? It must be propaganda because as far as I can tell GM and Ford are as strong as ever, I can’t find anything about gun violence on TV, the Iraq war is going great and I can have heart surgery for a $1.99.
He is so stupid and we are so smart.
RWNJIFG
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
Why is Bush personally protecting law breakers?
{{{No, not Libby, but Enron, the company that went bankrupt after corrupt business practices that resulted in the loss of billions of dollars and thousands of jobs. If ever there was an example of a valid lawsuit, this is it. To pile the Enron lawsuits together with someone burning themselves because of a hot cup of coffee is insane. Numerous members of the management team including infamous names such as Ken Lay, Jeffrey Skilling, Andrew Fastow and more were found guilty and served (or were due to serve) time in jail. For the president to personally involve himself against shareholders is a slap in the face to honest Americans.
It makes you wonder how he plans to address the Libby conviction as well as what the president thinks of our justice system.}}}
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Let’s see how groovy things are in Sweden (just to pick one Utopian Socialist Paradise) as they progress on the road to Dhimmitude:
Native Swedes have thus been reduced to just another ethnic group in Sweden, with no more claim to the country than the Kurds or the Somalis who arrived there last Thursday. The political authorities of the country have erased their own people’s history and culture. //Jens Orback, Minister for Democracy, Metropolitan Affairs, Integration and Gender Equality from the Social Democratic Party said during a debate in Swedish radio in 2004 that “We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.”
Here’s how this “tolerance” works:
{{{A Swedish man was nearly killed for the crime of wearing clothes with his own national flag while Sweden was participating in the 2006 football World Cup. Some “Multicultural youths” found this to be an intolerable provocation, and the 24-year-old man was run down by a car in Malmö, where Muhammad is becoming the most common name for newborn boys.
Feriz and Pajtim, members of Gangsta Albanian Thug Unit in Malmö, explain how they mug people downtown. They target a lone victim. “We surround him and beat and kick him until he no longer fights back,” Feriz said.}}}
AND…
{{{“Power for me means that the Swedes shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet.” The boys explain, laughingly, that “there is a thrilling sensation in your body when you’re robbing, you feel satisfied and happy, it feels as if you’ve succeeded, it simply feels good.” “We rob every single day, as often as we want to, whenever we want to. The Swedes don’t do anything, they just give us the stuff. They’re so wimpy.”}}}
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
Bush Drops The Gay Bomb
By BINGO!
June 14, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
””“FM, Buy Danish should be posting any minute now. RW has been b* slapped, so BD/RW will move in to take his place. “”“
Give that man the stuffed animal!
By getalife
June 14, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
When people have to call 911 because you are dying in the emergency waiting room and getting no help, there is major problem with health care.
Geez.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Yes, right on schedule. It took RW/Buy Danish only about 10 minutes to come up with some random newspaper story about the Swedes to try and prove his/her point about how bad everything in Sweden is.
Try again.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Bosch 10:21 - you’re right! Right on cue at 10:34. Are they Siamese twins?
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
{{I mean where does he come up with this stuff? It must be propaganda because as far as I can tell GM and Ford are as strong as ever,}}
RWNJ @ 10:31 — good one!
By Thanks but no thanks
June 14, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Educated person you said:
YOU, my friend, are living in a dream world!!! Just ask a Canadian what they think of Canada’s healthcare system vs. the US.
Well then “educated person”, if you are so smart, then why are you continuing to live in the US? Surely with your “education” you can marshal the resources necessary to immigrate to Canada or one of the other fine socialist countries listed in an earlier post.
And while Canada’s healthcare system may be better, it comes at a great cost. I worked closely with a senior level engineer from Canada who worked for a fortune 500 company. During one of his visits to the US, he came over to my house. He was amazed at the size of my house and yard (which was ONLY 1800 square ft. sitting on a little more than a half acre of land). He said his house was only 1400 square ft, with virtually no yard, and it was almost too expensive for him to afford. Since I was only a mid level manager at the time, I probably couldn’t have afforded an 800 sq. ft. apartment if I moved north of the border!
Nothing in life is free. If we want Universal Healthcare, we can have it. But if having such healthcare means that my standard of living drops to that of a counterpart in Canada or Europe, I say thanks but no thanks.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
{{{By getalife June 14, 2007 10:40 AM When people have to call 911 because you are dying in the emergency waiting room and getting no help, there is major problem with health care.}}}
al-Gitmo: Actually it was the fault of the 911 operator that works for the government.
Another instance of proof that privatization is the only way to go.
Get the government out of our lives.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
More on the Utopian Paradise of Sweden:
Why does the government dispense with the social contract and attack its own people like this? Well, for starters, because it can. Sweden is currently arguably the most politically repressive and totalitarian country in the Western world. It also has the highest tax rates. That could be a a coincidence, but I’m not sure that it is. The state has become so large and powerful that is has become an autonomous organism with a will of its own. The people are there to serve the state, not vice versa. And because state power penetrates every single corner of society, including the media, there are no places left to mount a defense if the state decides to attack you.
{{{Swedes are keenly aware of the fact that their country is viewed by many outsiders as a “model society.” Sweden is a deeply ideological state dedicated to imposing a certain world view on its citizens, and because the state is ideological, dissenters are quite literally treated as enemies of the state.}}}
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
FM, They are the same person.
RW got b*** slapped, so they moved on to the other persona of Buy Danish.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
They have robberies in Sweden? I’m glad we don’t have that problem here. Is robbery part of the Muslim religion or culture? It must only be in theirs because I can’t find any cases of Christian robbers.
You know its really informative to link criminality to a particular group of people because we then recognize how unique it is to that people and we can try to avoid, or kill, all of them.
For example, if I heard that say, I don’t know Atlantans killed and robbed and raped and molested and sold drugs every day I would avoid those people at all costs. In fact, it would make it easier for me to kill them. All of them.
RWNJIFG
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Swedish Utopia Part 3:
…the Swedish Multicultural elites see themselves first of all as citizens of the world. In order to emphasize and accentuate diversity, everything Swedish is deliberately disparaged. Opposition to this policy is considered a form of racism: “The dominant ideology in Sweden, which has been made dominant by powerful methods of silencing and repression, is a totalitarian ideology, where the elites oppose the national aspect of the nation state. The problem is that the ethnic group that are described as Swedes implicitly are considered to be nationalists, and thereby are viewed as racists.”
{{{The authors fear that the handling of the immigration policies has seriously eroded democracy because the citizens lose their loyalty towards a state they no longer consider their own. “Instead of increasing the active participation of citizens, the government has placed clear restrictions on freedom of thought, freedom of speech and freedom of congregation.”}}}
This must sound like paradise to GoldieDhimmi, Bosch and other true believers!
Too bad it takes so long to get a passport right now or they could be on their way to bliss.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
The President’s anti-drug office claims it will take 200 years to comply with a FOIA request.
Now THAT’S Bush style government for you.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
It is unbelieveable that in Sweden dissenters are treated as enemies of the state. That is horrible.
BTW: Did you hear about the lib who said something bad about the Prez and thereby emboldened the enemy? Let’s kill him.
RWNJIFG
By getalife
June 14, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
It was the hospital’s fault Andy. They did not lift a finger to help her and watched her die on the floor like an animal. They have the video to prove it.
Geez, you are an idiot.
By Midori
June 14, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
on another note, did anyone watch “Lil Bush” last night?
gut busting funny!!!!
Lil Cheney rips heads off birds to drink their blood.
Lil Condi carries a torch for the resident moron, does all his homework, and whatever else is called for.
and Lil Bush is well, Lil Bush.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, Do you have something other than random newspaper articles from the Brussels Journal? Do you think that some random journalist who writes a story in a random newspaper speaks for the entire population of Sweden?
Try again.
Yeah, that crappy standard of living in Europe is terrible. Thanks but no thanks, you are right about the universal health care costing. Taxes are a lot higher in many parts of Europe than they are here, but many Europeans do not mind. They are used to it, they are more communal and care about their citizens. Yes, there houses and yards are smaller, but most Europeans have more of a sense of what is important - their fellow man, their family, their health. Yards, cars, and big houses don’t mean so much.
It’s just a different kind of culture. When my friends visit, they are amazed at how big my house is, one even asked, “Why do you need a house this big?” And to be honest, I couldn’t answer that question, because really I don’t.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Nut jobDhimmi,
The point of that story is not that there ARE “robberies” but WHY there are robberies.
Gawd you people are idiots.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Really!!!! How out of touch with reality is this a*******hole????
“As Jim and Dianna Beardsley tried to sort out the details of burying their slain soldier son at Arlington National Cemetery, Dianna Beardsley had a bold thought: They should try to get in to see President Bush to tell him of their continuing support of him and the war … The president gave them presidential medallion coins and coloring books for their son’s widow and two young children.[emphasis added] Then Bush heard the helicopter arriving and he hugged them goodbye.”
Can’t you just see the t-shirt? “My Dad got killed in a pointless war, and all I got was a coloring book!!!”
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Please don’t tell me that the moron now known as IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!! just blamed the 911 operator when the hospital staff ignored a woman who was on the floor of the ER vomiting blood for 45 minutes.
By Just for fun
June 14, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
follow some of the links in the Sweden piece….
“Fjordman” sure doesn’t care for muslims.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
BoschDhimmi,
Why don’t you just ONCE dispute a specific fact instead of shooting the messenger?
I’m giving you information about what happens when you have an institutionalized ideology that leads to national suicide and all you can do is blather on and on about the comparative size of houses and yards.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, Gawd, you people are ignorant. Ignorant of anything that isn’t red, white, and blue (and I’m not talking about France).
You do not understand, move on to something else.
By Can't Resist
June 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
”” shooting the messenger?”“
We can do that?
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I understand that the issue is WHY. The why is that they let muslims into the country and Muslims are robbers or more to the point by their very nature violent. As long as we don’t have muslims we won’t have violence or robberies. I think I get it and its because I’m a genuis winger like you.
I think a good question to ask is WHY there aren’t robberies here. I think its because most of us are Christians and God made us peaceful. What do you think?
RWNJIFG
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Bosch, you ignorant POS,(stooping to your level for a few minutes) I never said I ‘wanted’ the police to protect me or anyone else. Goldilocks was the one who claimed that we have ‘police and fire protection’ (8:43)
I never stated that the police should ‘come before a crime is committed’ did I? If so please show everyone on this blog where I made that comment. Just another lie from an ignorant socialist sucking on the teats of the working class.
Who deserves health care? Anyone who can afford it. Who deserves a house? Anyone who can afford it. Who deserves ANYTHING?? No one, that’s who. YOU WANT SOMETHING? GO AND EARN IT!
I think most of you brains preceded your coffee out of your nose the rest took the lower road out your backside!
Bosch the only “ignorant statements” today have come from you and goldilocks…
Goldilocks, My phantom bill was for $3,500.00 from the county government for “Fire Protection Services”. Luckily, my homeowners insurance (which I paid for, I didn’t just ‘deserve’ my insurance) paid for that as well as the repairs. Oh are we drinking already this morning? (9:41) “I was spitting out my Chardonnay while reading some of the wingnuts’ rants this morning”.
By w*******?
June 14, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
..off topic, which is the great cartoon…
but..since some of these lemming like unable to think for themselves “conservatives/republicans” insist that our health care system works…some real life incidents…
…yesterday..a woman DIES while vomiting blood in a hospital in LA called “Killer King” for its reputation..it is, of course, in a low-income area. Despite calls to 911, and pleas to the staff, this woman bled to death on the floor of a HOSPITAL. had she had money/insurance? oh, she would have been seen…long before this happened. That’s a fact.
I have advanced degrees, a good job, pretty good insurance. However, I owe a lot of money for tests to determine whether I had cancer. One NECESSARY procedure was denied payment..the very procedure to determin whether I did in fact have cancer! Luckily, betwen my husband’s 2 jobs, and MY 2 jobs, we are able to pay off my medical bills.
Our healthcare system is being managed by corporations-I’ve had my son’s pediatrician argue with our HMO because they wanted to discharge him after a surgical procedure immediately, while the doctor cited concerns because he was so young. He won..and it was a good thing-because major complications developed.
It’s easy to say how great healthcare is if you’re sitting in your lovely ivory tower, looking down your nose at all the peons. I know of too many middle class families who have NO or inadequate health insurance.
Moore’s film is NOT propaganda—that’s a line the insurance companies will use…what greater tribute than FOX saying it’s a GREAT FILM??????
By Thanks but no thanks
June 14, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
You made some good points Bosch - maybe we are too concerned with material things in the US.
But I have to disagree that Europeans care more for their fellow man than we do. It may seem heartless that I and many others don’t want universal healtcare. But compare my attidude with that of the French who let thousands of their elderly die a few summers back while they were vacating at the Med, and then blamed the government and the doctors for inaction.
Believe it or not, this is not a slam on French people. People die every day in the US because they don’t have access to good healthcare. I am just making the point that socialized government does not necessarily mean that people in those countries care more about their fellow man.
Many conservatives who oppose universal healthcare give their money and time to worthwhile charitable causes to help those in need.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Midori,
Here is part 2 of lil bush
Hilarious.
By Sailor
June 14, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Hey Andi/e! Let’s move to Canada when I get out of the USN. RW says you can get your operation for free!
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, I’m not trying to dispute the specific facts from your random newspaper article. I’m sure that they are true. Good job. You get an “A” for that assignment. I’m sure that all that stuff mentioned in that random newspaper article is for real. There’s no need to dispute it.
But to try and apply one random newspaper article to speak for the entire population of Sweden is, well, simply ignorant. To try and apply your “information” to describe, what did you call it? An institutionalized ideology, well, that’s simply ignorant and arrogant as well.
Do you personally KNOW any Swedes? Are you good friends with them? What’s their opinion?
Sure, there are many Europeans who really dislike Muslims, there are many Americans here that hate them too.
No, things are perfect in Europe, they aren’t perfect anywhere. No, I don’t want to live in Europe, I’m an American citizen who has a great life here, and a great family who enjoys their life here.
Again, what’s your point? Move on to something else.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
{{{By Funny morons® June 14, 2007 11:05 AM Please don’t tell me that the moron now known as IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!! just blamed the 911 operator when the hospital staff ignored a woman who was on the floor of the ER vomiting blood for 45 minutes.}}}
Most emergency rooms are zoos, courtesy of the 20,000,000 illegal immigrant slaves you liberals brought here.
Duh.
But still, the freaking government employed 911 operator did nothing, didn’t call the hospital, didn’t call the cops, didn’t send an ambulance.
Go visit Walter Reed for your government solution.
Geez.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By w*******?
June 14, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
..off topic, which is the great cartoon…
but..since some of these lemming like unable to think for themselves “conservatives/republicans” insist that our health care system works…some real life incidents…
…yesterday..a woman DIES while vomiting blood in a hospital in LA called “Killer King” for its reputation..it is, of course, in a low-income area. Despite calls to 911, and pleas to the staff, this woman bled to death on the floor of a HOSPITAL. had she had money/insurance? oh, she would have been seen…long before this happened. That’s a fact.
I have advanced degrees, a good job, pretty good insurance. However, I owe a lot of money for tests to determine whether I had cancer. One NECESSARY procedure was denied payment..the very procedure to determin whether I did in fact have cancer! Luckily, betwen my husband’s 2 jobs, and MY 2 jobs, we are able to pay off my medical bills.
Our healthcare system is being managed by corporations-I’ve had my son’s pediatrician argue with our HMO because they wanted to discharge him after a surgical procedure immediately, while the doctor cited concerns because he was so young. He won..and it was a good thing-because major complications developed.
It’s easy to say how great healthcare is if you’re sitting in your lovely ivory tower, looking down your nose at all the peons. I know of too many middle class families who have NO or inadequate health insurance.
Moore’s film is NOT propaganda—that’s a line the insurance companies will use…what greater tribute than FOX saying it’s a GREAT FILM??????
By Don't get cancer
June 14, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
in Canada.
Ontario ‘failing’ cancer patients
[[The comments follow a Globe and Mail story that revealed the limited access cancer patients have to the nine public PET machines in Ontario. That province’s use of the scanners is so tightly controlled that when doctors at St. Joseph’s Health Care London have been unable to fill their half of the PET/CT slots with cancer patients, researchers have used the empty spaces to do experiments on laboratory-bred animals, such as dogs and pigs.]]
By w00t
June 14, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
LROC, so you’re saying that someone has to earn the right to live?
Would you tell your mother that?
Oh, you have heart failure mom, and you’re retired? Get a job!
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
NutJobDhimmi,
Sigh. No, that’s not the point either. Maybe if I spell it out for you in big letters you’ll get it:
THE POINT IS THAT THE SWEDES DON’T FIGHT BACK and the Muslim “youts” know it.
Moving right along, more on Sweden…
…Europe is in the midst of massive waves of Muslim immigration that are in the process of transforming the continent into a post-Western entity some call “Eurabia.” Sweden is one of the leading countries in this process, quite possibly the worst of them all, and yet———> freedom of speech in debating these topics in public has become de facto so curtailed that one could question whether Sweden in 2006 is still a functioning democracy. <———-
AND
{{{Hans Karlsson, A LEFTWING HEAVYWEIGHT* concluded that true unemployment was more in the ballpark of 20-25%, not 5% as the government was claiming. Even the official numbers show that the Swedish economic model is in serious trouble. Young adults born in the 1980’s have an appreciably lower standard of living in Sweden than older generations. We can already see some major cracks in the Swedish welfare state. Sweden is struggling to pay the bills for the tens of thousands of workers on long-term disability and an expanding group of young people leaving the workforce altogether on so-called “early retirement.” 500,000 people are on early retirement in Sweden today, 68,000 of whom are between the ages of 20 and 40. “If the sick-leave levels in Sweden really were an indicator of how sick we are, we would be facing a plague here,” as one commentator put it.}}}
*Emphasis mine since the AJC won’t allow italics or bolding on this blog
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
{{Who deserves health care? Anyone who can afford it.}}
So let me guess, Way Out Right— the poorer children of GA do not even “deserve” health care, because they can’t “afford it”? That’s how that goes?
I guess you’re also in favor of doing away with child-labor laws so that all those poor children can get jobs in the factories and pay for their own damn health care needs…
OMG, how totally 19th century you are— you and a few other trolls who continue to post your ignorance here every day!
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
The Moral-Hazard Myth The bad idea behind our failed health-care system.
By Don't get cancer
June 14, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
in Canada.
The killing cost of drug treatment in Canada
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
No, LROC, you didn’t say that, you said that “I’m not aware of the police protecting anyone other than a politician or celebrity. However, they will come and make a report AFTER something happens.” I was making a joke, sorry I do that sometimes.
If you don’t want the police to protect you, that’s your problem. As for me, I like my local policemen, they are very nice.
That really sucks about your fire bill. Gee, it sounds like you live in a not so fun place, if you don’t want your policemen protecting you, and the fire department sends you bills, I think I’d move.
And you are “stooping to my level” by calling me a piece of s**? When did I call you a piece of s**? I called you ignorant, that’s totally different.
I don’t think of ignorant as being an insult, I know some do, but I don’t mean it as an insult. Everyone is ignorant about something, and those who claim not to be are well, just plain ignorant :-).
Thanks ft truth, Bad things happen everywhere. I’m not saying they don’t. I was just getting a little philosophical there, I do that sometimes. You are right, I know many very good-hearted conservatives.
But I truly believe, that every American citizen deserves good health care. That’s my opinion. Others disagree and that’s fine. We are the richest nation in the world.
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
w00t,(11:23) Does a person have the right to live? Yes!
Does a person have the Right to insurance? NO!!
Sorry but my Mom earned the ‘right’ to have insurance if and when she needs it. My dad “earned” the right to have his insurance company pay for his bypass surgery.
So you’ve retired. What does that have to do with insurance and healthcare?
If you retire without the means to provide (food, clothing, a roof over your head, and insurance – auto-home-health) for yourself, then I guess you retired too soon. If you want something, go and earn it. Quit asking for a free ride and expect me to pay for it.
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
{{Go visit Walter Reed for your government solution.}}
Still trying that old lie, LickaDull? We’ve already discussed ad nauseum that Walter Reed is being run by private contractors, not the gummint… when will you ever stop your lying ways and behave like the Christian you purport to be. I guess NEVER.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
This is a great point!:
…the Scandinavian model is not all it’s cracked up to be. Sweden had the second highest growth rate in the world from 1890 to 1950, but since the tax rate rose from 20 % in 1950 to 50 % in 1980 it had fallen behind. For example, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Sweden was the fourth richest country per capita in the world in 1970 whereas now it is down to number 14, and falling. ———>Maybe the welfare state only seemed to be a success in Scandinavia because these nations had been dynamic capitalist countries prior to this, ethnically homogeneous and based upon a Protestant work ethic. While this legacy kept the welfare system afloat for some time, it is now rapidly being eroded.<———
Also see declining birth rates among Swedes thanks in part to the propaganda that children are polluters and we must not be selfish by having too many of them.
By Don't ring for a nurse
June 14, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
in Canada.
[[And, even though 8,000 nurses will graduate across Canada this month, the CNA will say 15 per cent of them will not find work in this country. That number is culled from health-care policy studies, past trends and reports from young nursing students across the country who say they have been unable to secure jobs.]]
[[It’s a costly trend, not only in terms of waiting times for treatment and the stress on overworked nurses, says the CNA, but also in terms of dollars spent. Canadian governments pay an average of $60,000 over four years to train a nurse. If 1,200 of them are unable to find work every year, that amounts to $72-million in wasted tax dollars.]]
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
America can let the poor children who can’t afford health insurance just die— so say the 19th century trolls here:
Twelve-year-old Deamonte Driver died of a toothache Sunday.
By w00t
June 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
I said “LROC, so you’re saying that someone has to earn the right to live?”
Tell me, does someone have to earn the right to live? So, the harder I work, the more I get to live, and a better chance that someone will save my life. What if I am laid off, does that mean I don’t get as good a chance to live as the guy that took my job? Because basically that’s what you’re talking about. Someone does not have the right to life, unless they have money? I find that hard to believe. That is completely against life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Insurance does not equal the right to Life.
By AmVet
June 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
I just got off of the phone with a good friend of mine who I’ve known for 16 years. As we’ve gotten older, he has, like many my age, moved to the right politically.
We were talking about the immigration issue, which is a REAL big deal with him, as well as a little bit about Iraq. And he completely surprised me. He said that even though he had voted for Bush twice he had grown to detest him! He went on to say that “The guy is no conservative. He ran as one, but he is not.”
I chucked and thought to myself, no kidding.
And this is a guy who had a Bush/Cheney sign in his front yard just two and a half years ago.
And that made me think about why he had changed his mind so quickly. I have been considering for some time now this enormous dropoff not only in the President’s approval ratings, but is he in fact a charade for conservatism?
I believe there are no hard, fast rules for defining conservatives, but what are the hallmarks of one? And what do they not support? And who do they appeal to? I mean specifics. Please, no sound bites or slogans.
Any ideas?
And as I’ve mentioned before, I personally believe that the word conservative is terribly misused these days.
I’ll be gone for a few hours but hope to get back later and see what you guys think.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
{{{By getalife June 14, 2007 10:57 AM It was the hospital’s fault Andy. They did not lift a finger to help her and watched her die on the floor like an animal. They have the video to prove it.}}}
al-Gitmo: You monitor CNN 24/7, am I right?
The dispatcher refused to call paramedics and told the woman that she should contact hospital supervisors “and let them know” if she is unhappy. “May God strike you too for acting the way you just acted,” the woman said finally. “No, negative ma’am, you’re the one,” he said.
You should be able to recite this to me but instead I have to read it to you, what’s up?
Why are we playing games?
Doesn’t the dispatcher fit into your evil hospital scenario?
Geez.
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By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
More reasons for GoldieDhimmi to rejoice! All her pet peeves of “xenophobia” and “fascism” are addressed to her satisfaction in the Totalitarian State of Sweden”
Before the national elections in the fall of 2006, members of all the established parties, including the so-called right-wing opposition, are cooperating in efforts to boycott any collaboration with the Sweden Democrats or other “xenophobic” parties after the elections. This is widely applauded by the Swedish media establishment. The majority of headmasters in Stockholm’s high schools want to block the Sweden Democrats from participating in pre-election debates at their schools because they disagree with their “perspective on humanity.” Party members can seldom hold meetings without being hassled by political hooligans, who make noise, destroy equipment or even resort to violence. Violent assaults and life threatening attacks against members of the Sweden Democrats, by Muslims or “anti-Fascists,” have taken place many times, but are rarely mentioned in the media. No dissent is tolerated in Sweden.
Click on the little blue lines to read more about these peace loving Swedish Leftists.
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Very good point, Muffin. Sweden is doing well because it used to be ethnically homogeneous. Maybe we should try that in America as well.
By Don't get your education
June 14, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
in Canada.
[[Canada needs educated workers. The looming labour shortage and impact of baby-boomer retirement is very much on the front burner of public policy.Yet while our output of bachelor degrees is on an upward climb, that’s often no longer enough to start a career. From physiotherapy to financial planning, many employers now demand at least a master’s degree. Bodies aren’t the problem. The difficulty is infrastructure: Universities just don’t have the money for the faculty, staff, labs and buildings that they need. The situation is already pressing, as the number of graduates and postgraduates coming out of Canada, per capita, is falling far behind our neighbour to the south.]]
By Don't get your education
June 14, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
in Canada.
[[Canada needs educated workers. The looming labour shortage and impact of baby-boomer retirement is very much on the front burner of public policy.Yet while our output of bachelor degrees is on an upward climb, that’s often no longer enough to start a career. From physiotherapy to financial planning, many employers now demand at least a master’s degree. Bodies aren’t the problem. The difficulty is infrastructure: Universities just don’t have the money for the faculty, staff, labs and buildings that they need. The situation is already pressing, as the number of graduates and postgraduates coming out of Canada, per capita, is falling far behind our neighbour to the south.]]
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, Sigh. Maybe if I spell it out for you in big letters you will understand:
WHY DO YOU USE ONE OR TWO RANDOM NEWSPAPER ARTICLES AND BLOG ENTRIES TO TRY AND PROOVE A POINT? IT DOESN’T WORK. IT DOESN’T PAINT THE ENTIRE PICTURE. I’M NOT TRYING TO DISPUTE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN SWEDEN. THERE ARE PROBLEMS EVERYWHERE. YOU CAN DRAG UP AND POST AS MANY STORIES ABOUT SWEDEN AS YOU WANT, FOR ANY COUNTRY, SO WHAT?
By WWJD
June 14, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 11:34 AM If you retire without the means to provide (food, clothing, a roof over your head, and insurance – auto-home-health) for yourself, then I guess you retired too soon. If you want something, go and earn it. Quit asking for a free ride and expect me to pay for it.
You sir are despicable. You are the prime reason that people in this country are running away from your rightest ideologies at warp speed. And I certainly hope that you don’t call yourself a christian. Maybe you call yourself one, but you most certainly don’t have christian ideals.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
“But still, the freaking government employed 911 operator did nothing, didn’t call the hospital, didn’t call the cops, didn’t send an ambulance.”
As callous as the 911 operator seemed in the story it’s stupid to think that calling the hospital, WHEN THE WOMAN WAS IN THE HOSPITAL WITH STAFF WATCHING HER DIE, would have accomplished anything further. Why would a 911 operator send an ambulance to a place where there were probably already ambulances present?
Holy crap. Do you bother to think before you type? Of course not. Your job at the AJC is to bring an opposing view no matter how outlandish it may be.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
{{{By Bosch June 14, 2007 10:59 AM Yes, there houses and yards are smaller, but most Europeans have more of a sense of what is important - their fellow man, their family, their health}}}
Then why are they replacing all of their socialist leaders with wingnuts?
It’s those little clues that you libs have such a hard time picking up on.
Geez.
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By rushncap
June 14, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
I find it amusing, and telling, that Muffin consistently links to what are basically European KKK-type blogs: white separationists, white identity, etc. And once people like her, li’l andykins, @@ etc. are called on the fact that they are blatantly racist, they get all indignant. Fortunately these people are usually cowards, as they keep demonstrating on this board.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
{{{By Funny morons® June 14, 2007 11:05 AM Please don’t tell me that the moron now known as IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!! just blamed the 911 operator when the hospital staff ignored a woman who was on the floor of the ER vomiting blood for 45 minutes.}}}
You’re right, I want 911 operators that hang up when I call them.
Geez.
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By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
BoschDhimmi,
Every single one of those “blog entries” has a link to a source to back up the statements.
You have yet to dispute a single one of them.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
{{{By w*? June 14, 2007 11:17 AM Moore’s film is NOT propaganda—that’s a line the insurance companies will use…what greater tribute than FOX saying it’s a GREAT FILM??????}}}
Move to Cuba then, you moron.
Geez.
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By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
{{{By rushncap
June 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Very good point, Muffin. Sweden is doing well because it used to be ethnically homogeneous. Maybe we should try that in America as well.}}}
RushncapDhimmi,
Your sarcasm aside, the point is that Sweden is NOT doing well.
Maybe if they assimilated their emigre’s instead of encouraging multi-culturalism and diversity they wouldn’t have this problem?
It’s one thing to be a “nation of immigrants”. It’s quite another to willingly be invaded and conquered.
Later dimwits…
By GodHatesTrash
June 14, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Looks like POS Andi/e had a visit to the mirror, what with her new screenname of the day now “Cowards Whining to the AJC”…
That is a very solid description of POS Andie and her friends Bi Danish, et. al. Thankfully, the paranoid attacks on Cynthia Tucker and Ms. Donosky have ceased, and her little mewlings about Mr. Bookman are just more crybaby stuff.
Trash. What would you do without this blog, POS Andi/e?
By MomCat
June 14, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Yes, there houses and yards are smaller, but most Europeans have more of a sense of what is important - their fellow man, their family, their health. Yards, cars, and big houses don’t mean so much.
Bosch, these big money grubbers, robber barons or whatever you wish to call the right wingers, believe life begins at conception and ends at birth!! Heck with the hungry, sick and neglected 4 year old. It’s his/her fault for selecting the wrong parents. These folks could care less until something happens to them or theirs. Then it’s bwaaaaaaaaa.
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
Bosch, Again, I never said I do not want the “policemen protecting” me. I just pointed out that protecting people is NOT their job. Protecting me and my family is MY job (okay all you anti-gun people have at me). The police assist in resolving ‘thing’ after they happen. There are times when the police do prevent things from happening and that is good. I have many friends in the Sherriff and Police department even one who is a Fireman.
You are correct you never used the term POS, Sorry, I get all you lefties confused sometimes. My bad.
Goldilocks, If the parents of those ‘poor children’ of GA, or anywhere else for that matter, cannot afford to provide for their off springs then maybe they should not have had them in the first place. If they cannot care for them, then maybe the state should take care of them.
Do you write for a living? You go from healthcare to claiming that I want to do away with child labor laws? What an imagination you have.
Using your logic, my neighbor bought a used BWM for their 17 year old daughter to drive, I could only afford a used Ford Focus for my daughter. I guess the government should pay the difference so my daughter can have a BMW also… WITHOUT ME WORKING FOR OR EARNING IT! She has a ‘right’ to be able to drive to work like everyone else does, right? I have good health insurance and Mr & Mrs. XYZ don’t have insurance, so they have a ‘right’ to what I have don’t they?
WWJD (11:48) Are we feeling a little ‘Holier than thou’ today?
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
No, Muffin, my sarcasm is NOT aside. Your KKK-esque source attributes Sweden’s success at least partially to racial homogeneity. The implication is that a country is better off being racially the same. So, who do we start deporting first, Muff? Blacks? Browns? Yellows? Jews? Although, if you think about it, there is nowhere to really deport them… gas chambers maybe? I’m eagerly waiting for your plan to racially purify our nation to restore it to what I can only assume you imagine to be “former glory”.
And as long as you’re being a racist b!tch, I’ll keep calling you on that. So save your glibness for someone on whom it might possibly work.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
Simple question. What is the duty of a 911 operator? How do you suppose they should handle a call FROM A HOSPITAL? Send for an ambulance to take the person to the same hospital? Call the hospital and ask why there is someone dying in the ER when the hospital is fully aware of the situation but is doing nothing.
Again. The 911 operator could have been more compassionate but what could they have done?
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
You are defending the indefensible. But again, that’s your job at the AJC. Counter any statement with moronic responses just to stir things up. I’m sorry but I simply don’t believe anyone is really as ignorant and stupid as you appear to be. the only answer is that you are an AJC staffer assigned to keep things stirred up here. How pathetic.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Lying rushncap,
It has nothing to do with race and you know it. Unless you’re even dumber than I thought.
You should know too that no group is more supportive of Jews than American Conservatives, so you can put that lie to bed also.
If you want to find anti-semitism just go to any Left wing site where they rant about how Jews run the world, the Jewish media conspiracy, the plight of the Palestenians at the hands of the evil Israelis - ad nauseum.
You are so freaking stupid you side with the very people who want to destroy you.
That makes you a perfect Dhimmi too.
GONE!
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
{{{By morons® June 14, 2007 12:06 PM Call the hospital and ask why there is someone dying in the ER.}}}
Ding, ding, ding, give that moron a cigar.
{{{Relatives reported she died as police were wheeling her out of the hospital after the officers they had asked to help Rodriguez arrested her instead on a parole violation.}}}
When the FIRST PROVIDERS OF CARE don’t convey a sense of urgency and even ignore the woman’s complaints, what is the hospital supposed to do, take the woman out of the back of the cop car?
Geez.
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By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
“I just pointed out that protecting people is NOT their job.”
So “To Protect and Serve” is just a BS sticker on some police cars. I wonder why I always see a police presence at events where lots of people gather. Are they not there to protect the attendees?
“If they cannot care for them, then maybe the state should take care of them.”
Thanks for coming over to the good side. That’s what we’ve been saying. If, for example, parents find that their financial situation has changed for the worse then their children should still have access to health care.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
{{{By Funny morons® June 14, 2007 12:09 PM But again, that’s your job at the AJC. Counter any statement with moronic responses just to stir things up.}}}
Geez, man, don’t cry.
If I were a “staffer” of the POS Urinal, then why do I always get banned from their websites for doing the same exact things that you liberals do to me day in and day out?
The same exact things except I get banned.
You two faced freaks don’t.
Are you trying to tell me that I can start calling everyone “f-ags,” like the the real AJC employees at 12:01 and 11:19 do every day, and I would get away with it?
Hahaha.
GFY (Good For You.)
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By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
You’ll notice that IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!! Never disputes that it is a paid staffer who is assigned to stir things up.
Thanks but I’d rather interact someone who is more authentic and actually has morals.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
LROC, “If the parents of those ‘poor children’ of GA, or anywhere else for that matter, cannot afford to provide for their off springs then maybe they should not have had them in the first place”
So if these people get pregnant, they should just go ahead and have abortions, huh?
What about people who loose their jobs and their insurance? What if those people have disabled children or children with chronic health problems? Or these children get sick? Oh, I know, by your logic, they should give them up for adoption, or just the ones with the health problems. The healthy ones can stay.
Thanks FM for beating me to that “protect and serve” thing. Yes, I guess LROC thinks that’s all a bunch of crap.
Rushncap, Don’t you think that Buy Danish is the type of person that thinks just because she types something then it’s true?
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
Andy, LuckoDull, In the Whining…, what are you talking about? Your not banned. Whatever.
By Waiting on the government
June 14, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
in the U.K.
[[Expensive new drugs and technologies are being rolled out across an increasingly wide range of illnesses – and the NHS can’t keep up.]]
[[And while both of those issues are important – in many ways both are getting worse – there is a much more fundamental debate emerging that could have long-lasting implications for the health & protection industry, and for the UK as a whole.]]
[[What is more significant is that it is tangible evidence that the health insurance industry is coming up with ways of filling Britain’s growing healthcare funding gap – and that the issue is being discussed in the mainstream media.]]
[[Of course, the NHS funding gap is not just about paying for cancer drugs, although that, of course, is a large part of the debate. There are shortfalls emerging across all parts of the NHS – from dentistry to car parking and from physiotherapy to bedside telephones.]]
[[No matter how many times the government says it, the fact remains that the NHS is not free at the point of need.]]
[[It needs to sit down – in an open forum – with the health insurance industry to discuss ways of helping people come up with ways of funding any shortfalls.]]
[[The government insists that it is committed to rolling out choice across the public sectors – especially across the NHS where its “patient choice” programme is really beginning to pick up speed.]]
[[But if it refuses to be drawn into a debate on real choice – in other words allowing people to pay for the healthcare they want, when they want it, in the way that they want it – it will be doing itself, and more importantly, the electorate a great disservice.]]
Government doesn’t commit to shi-t and the sooner you librul failures learn that lesson the better off this country will be.
If you can’t get that through your socialist indoctrinated brains, then get the f*ck out of this country before you destroy it with your lack of brains.
What a bunch of f*ing losers and whiners.
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Funny Moron, (12:19) The sticker “To Protect and Serve” is just that, BS. Ask the Cleveland Ohio Police Department. After a lawsuit in the 80’s where they failed to ‘protect’ someone, that person sued the police and won. The city was ordered to remove that ‘feel good’ statement from their police cars.
If putting kids in state custody is the ‘good’ side thank the lord I’m on the ‘bad’ side. Do you know what the fatality rate is for kids in Georgia in state care? I don’t know the numbers but way too many of them die due to the ‘state care’ they receive. The point of my comments was, for those unable to grasp it, If you can’t afford to care for your off springs, then don’t have them.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
You’ve never been banned. Nobody has. You may stay away for a brief period of time for appearances sake but banned? Yeah right.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
“If you can’t get that through your socialist indoctrinated brains, then get the f*ck out of this country before you destroy it with your lack of brains.
What a bunch of f*ing losers and whiners.”
Wow, Andy’s angry today.
Andy, we like it here, we like tormenting you with our socialist indoctrinated brains. We love seeing you get so mad, your blood pressure goes up to stroke level. Any day, I can make a neocon mad, is a good day for me!
I love this country!
By God Almighty
June 14, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Support for Universal healthcare would get points from me for its greedy, selfish oponents.
That’s the kind of stuff I’m about.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this
—-The federal judge who oversaw I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby’s CIA leak trial said Thursday that he received threatening letters and phone calls after sentencing the former White House aide to prison.
“I received a number of angry, harassing mean-spirited phone calls and letters,” U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton said. ”Some of those were wishing bad things on me and my family.”
Walton made the remarks as he opened a hearing into whether to delay Libby’s 2 1/2-year sentence. He said he was holding the letters in case something happened but said they would have no effect on Thursday’s decision.—-
Yep those conservatives sure are the cream of the American crop, aren’t they?
By Paul
June 14, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
rushncap
I’d really encourage you (and a many, many others here) to listen to the Diane Rehm show’s segment on Law Regarding Enemy Combatants. Guests were Bradford Berenson, former associate counsel to President George W. Bush (2001-2003); attorney in private practice and David Cole, professor of law at Georgetown University Law Center and author of “Less Safe, Less Free,” and “Terrorism and the Constitution.”
The show is archived so you can listen on Windows Media or Real Audio over your computer.
Much of what many here repeat as being a given about Enemy Combatants, their “rights” and the President’s powers is discussed as not quite so. They also go over past court (military and civilian) cases and show the issues are far from settled.
Link: What the 4th Circuit and other cases really say about enemy combatants
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
Geez, Abu Ghraib would be better than being under the jurisdiction of a bunch of two faced vindictive hypocrite liberals:
{{{“To describe Paris as emotionally upset would be an understatement,” it quoted a law enforcement source connected with the facility as saying.}}}
Or if Paris strapped on a suicide belt and denounced America maybe then you Cowards would stop torturing her.
Scumbags.
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By Bosch
June 14, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
Lroc, Why do people use one example as the end all to try and proove a point?
Why do you throw out comments about the fatality rate of kids in Georgia state care? That “fatality” rate is very low. Yes, some bad things have happened that get reported in the news. Why don’t you go down to your local DFACS office and talk to the caseworkers there. Or better yet, why don’t you volunteer, or become a foster parent?
You know my first and third children were “unplanned.” And happened to be “unplanned” at a time when I couldn’t afford them. I’m really glad I didn’t follow the ignorant advice of people like you and have them aborted. They are really great kids!
My oldest son wants to be an engineer, and I’m convinced that my daughter will be the first female president of the United States. They are really great kids.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
{{{By Bosch June 14, 2007 12:42 PM “If you can’t get that through your socialist indoctrinated brains, then get the f*ck out of this country before you destroy it with your lack of brains.}}}
ATTENTION AJC MANAGEMENT!!!!!
Do not roceed with your typical knee jerk reaction and ban me right off first thing.
Apparently, Bosch has jacked my name in an attempt to discredit me with the post at 12:36 that you know and I both know I did not post.
Trying to be clever, Bosch followed it up with 12:42 to lend legitimacy to it.
Of course, if I had done something like this to one of the pinkos, you would immediately ban me, and I don’t expect anything to happen to Bosch because they are POS socialist anti American pigs like you are, and you pigs have to stick together.
Cowards.
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By Goldie
June 14, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
{{The point of my comments was, for those unable to grasp it, If you can’t afford to care for your off springs, then don’t have them.}}
What’s this, Way Out Right— are you one of the 3 or 4 Repugs who doesn’t believe that every pregnant woman has to carry the baby to term as mandated by the religious right???
By Educated Person
June 14, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Surely with your “education” you can marshal the resources necessary to immigrate to Canada or one of the other fine socialist countries listed in an earlier post.
Yes darling, I could marshal the resources to move to Canada. However, I don’t wish to do that since my family is here, AND I’m one of the fortunate ones lucky enough to have excellent insurance. Most of our good fortune can be attributed to hard work; however, have you never heard of disaster? Have you never heard of an illness that can deplete one’s resources, or the loss of a job that can’t be replaced? Some of us care about those less fortunate. I guess it’s the old liberal mindset.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this
You can bet your bottom dollar that if the wingnuts are against universal health care, it is a sure winner.
They have been dead wrong on everything and cheer on the destruction of this country instead of trying to fix it.
This is the gop.
Geez.
By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Leahy: Missing White House Emails Found, But Still Witheld From Congress
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
At yesterday’s White House press briefing, a reporter mentioned to Tony Snow that the White House has “taken a few legal hits recently on the treatment of prisoners,” particularly when it comes to detention at Guantanamo Bay. Snow hailed the terrific treatment Gitmo detainees receive, right before explaining how anxious the president is to shut the facility down. There was a bit of a disconnect.
But then there was a very noteworthy exchange.
Q: But doesn’t the indefinite holding of this many prisoners under these circumstances really undercut the President’s arguments in favor of democracy worldwide, as he just spoke about in his speech –
SNOW: Are you saying that detaining people who are plucked off the battlefields is an assault on democracy? Are you kidding me? You’re talking about the people who were responsible for supporting the Taliban, somehow detaining them is an assault on democracy?
Actually, yes, to deny prisoners due process and decide that habeas corpus no longer matters is absolutely an “assault on democracy.” That Snow seems confused about this is rather disconcerting.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
No, Andy, I didn’t “jack” your name, I used one of your earlier quotes in a post. People seem to do that quite frequently on this blog.
But, no, it wasn’t me. I’m not that mischievious. Promise.
You seem to be having a rough day, why don’t you take a breath of fresh air, it will do your soul some good.
By Goldie
June 14, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
OMG— According to some trolls who post here, the poor children of America can just die with their medical problems… I guess it serves ‘em right for choosing to be born to such poor parents.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!! appears tobe off it’s meds today.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
Just breezing by for a minute.
Rushncap,
Here is a list of “academics” from Harvard and M.I.T. who want corporations to divest from Israel.
Do you think these ProFessors are Democrats or Republicans?
See ya!
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
Bosch — no, I don’t. I don’t think Muffin is the type of person who thinks at all.
Muff — the only reason American conservatives support Jews is because they want Rapture to come, and that will only happen, according to them, if Jews control Israel. It’s also American conservative organizations like KKK and skinheads who are the most anti-Semitic of all. Finally, in the last election Jews went for Kerry over Bush by a 74%-25% margin. Dammit, don’t you EVER tire of being completely wrong? Seriously, stick to driving your kid to golf. You’re useless otherwise.
By Dr. Freud
June 14, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Oh, the Paranoia!
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Breezing by for a minute? What, the soap operas are all on simultaneous commercials, Muffin? Your link, BTW, is irrelevant.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
I work hard (50+ hours a week). I have health insurance for my family. I pay my taxes. I obey the law.
I would gladly designate a portion of my taxes to go to a national health care program that would benefit every American and especially the less fortunate Americans. Our country is only as strong as it’s weakest link. If we allow one citizen to fall between the cracks because conservatives don’t want their “hard earned money” paying for people who can’t afford health care then we’ve de-evolved into something much less than the America our forefathers envisioned and our ancestors fought and died for.
By Paul
June 14, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
Funny Morons 12:58
You should really listen to the show. Several versions of that question have been called in and it’s pretty much discounted. Fact is, there’s a clear distinction between US criminal law and international warfare conventions and treaty obligations. It was noted all captured in Iraq are afforded Geneva Convention treatment - which does not afford the US right of habeas corpus, provides due process and is precisely the reason some are still held.
The reporter seems the confused one - which is not all that surprising.
By You're both wrong
June 14, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
Bosch&Andy — You’re both wrong. I drop in here once or twice a month.
Nothing angers me more than to see a bunch of government dependent idiots falling victim to the federal healthcare scam.
The failures of other countries to provide healthcare are clear to see but these morons want to follow the path to their destruction.
Stupid idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll catch the same stupidity they continue to put forth in about a month or so. They’ll never learn.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
Andy had a bad doctor experience so he hates health care like he hates everything else.
Hate, hate, hate.
Goldie,
Real Christians believe in helping the sick and poor.
The wingnuts are fake Christians, pure and simple.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
Yes, Andy’s been paranoid for a couple of days now.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
For anyone interested in where the American public really stands on the big issues that distinguish progressives from conservatives…
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
“You’re both wrong”
Um……………….what are you talking about? Andy and I are both wrong about what exactly?
By Average wingnut on this blog
June 14, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about but you’re a moron for not knowing what I’m talking about. Also you’re unAmerican for not agreeing with me.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
“Unpopular Bush still a hit with white Baptists President George W. Bush may have low approval ratings overall, but he can still bring a crowd of Southern Baptists to their feet. Conservative white evangelical Protestants remain his most loyal base.
Religious extremists in 3 faiths share views Violent Muslim, Christian and Jewish extremists invoke the same rhetoric of “good” and “evil.”
Freaking radical wingnuts.
Geez.
By Paul
June 14, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
Funny Morons 1:15
Progressives vs Conservatives?
Whatever happened to Liberals? Did they fold? Are there any Progressive Conservatives, as in Canada? (Where it’s a political party)? What about Liberal Progressives? Any of those? (which of those is more centrist?)
Or did Media Matters simply hire a new ad agency?
More fun with language - reduce all to a label so the fight for political power can continue -
Again, FM - rhetorical - questions not directed at you -
By Little Right of Center
June 14, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
Yes Goldilocks, (12:54) I do believe that a woman has the right to choose what happens to her body. While I think abortion is wrong, I do not think the government has the right to take away her freedom of choice. I know that you and the others on the left think that everyone on the right is in lock step with the GOP. Well here is a news flash, not every Republican agrees on 100% of the issues. I have many issues with the way the country is being run at this time. However, I think we are much better off now than if the Gore or Kerry crowd got elected.
Getalife (12:55) Dead wrong about everything?? I guess the ‘tax cuts’ that got the economy moving was a mistake. Those same tax cuts that created more jobs and brought in more tax monies was wrong.
(1:13)“Real Christians believe in helping the sick and poor. The wingnuts are fake Christians, pure and simple.“
Real Christians go out and do something to help the sick, poor and less fortunate. Only the idiots on the left think that helping the sick, poor and less fortunate involves giving your money to the government to waste.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Told ya, Libby gets locked up today.
Libby goes to prison!
By mm
June 14, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Rightwingnuts always accuse people with low paying jobs as lazy. To some extent, you are correct (more money means more responsibility). But does it dawn on you that 50% of the population has the IQ of a turnip? They are untrainable. Thus, crappy jobs.
Who says the governement needs to run healthcare to have universal healthcare? Let doctors and hospitals remain as they are (some public, mostly private). It is insurance companies that are to blame for the current mess. So how do you set up a NON-PROFIT organization to collect money from ALL citizens to create a money pool from which healthcare bills can be paid without involving government?
By getalife
June 14, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Told ya wingnuts are dangerous.
Libby’s judge received death threats.
Send all wingnuts to Gitmo.
Geez.
By georgia 74
June 14, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Libby was just ordered to report to prison. Justice is served.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
{{{By getalife June 14, 2007 1:13 PM Andy had a bad doctor experience so he hates health care like he hates everything else. Hate, hate, hate.}}}
al-Gitmo: I know that your world is nothing but a great big freebie, with all the productive people in the world being your slaves and sole source of income, so I’m going to go out on a limb here and see if you can follow along with a free market discussion.
When I request health care and pay for health care, I expect to get health care.
I don’t want to be told to come back in 6 months.
It took a total loser of a government 911 dispatcher and a moron government cop for you libs to come up with ONE instance of the American health care system failing someone.
No matter what, people get treated and get made better in America.
You want to ruin this system so that you can get over on a couple hundred dollars that you would rather spend on liquor or drugs.
You want to take a system that works and turn it into one where PEOPLE REALLY DO DIE WAITING MONTHS TO GET SIMPLE THINGS TAKEN CARE OF.
All because of your laziness and your selfishness.
How would Jesus see any benefits in this?
Geez.
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By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this
{{{By Bosch June 14, 2007 1:16 PM “You’re both wrong” Um……………….what are you talking about? Andy and I are both wrong about what exactly?}}}
Geez, you Cowards really are helpless.
He is saying that I didn’t post that and you didn’t post that.
Duh.
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By IN THE NEWS
June 14, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this
The Rich Are Making the Poor Poorer
LET THEM EAT ASPIRIN
By w00t
June 14, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Teachers tell researchers they’ve never seen so many children coming to school sick. Guilt-ridden mothers share stories of sending ailing kids to day care or school out of fear that staying home with them would result in discipline on the job.
This fits perfectly with what I’ve been saying. People are afraid of losing their jobs and insurance at the expense of their family. Why has it come to this?
Money controls everything now, and its really sad. You need to take that control away from employers and insurance companies. Stop forcing people to get into debt. It’s like modern slavery.
By Average wingnut on this blog
June 14, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Paul - The study uses the term progressive but I still identify myself with the good ‘ol liberal tag. The fact that conservatives attempted to demonize the term liberal is just another item on their long list of failings.
By georgia 74
June 14, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
I think Katie Couric could whip Andi’s a*, I’d like to see it.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
Weeks being the operative word:
{{{A federal judge said Thursday he will not delay a 2 1/2-year prison sentence for I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, a ruling that could send the former White House aide to prison within weeks.}}}
Geez.
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By Paul
June 14, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
Avg wingnut 1:44
Well, if liberals are dropping that moniker in favor of ‘progressive’ wit would appear the conservatives had a success, not a failing.
Always gets me, though, how so many Democrats decry (effective) roughshod tactics used by some Republicans, then when they get the chance, they adapt the same tactics and go one better (DeLay and Pelosi).
BTW - I’ve blogged with a number of people (not here, obviously) who refer to themselves as “progressive, but conservative.” Or as “liberal on social issues, not so much on foreign policy.” Interesting - not everyone uses litmus tests, in spite of what their Party tells them -
By getalife
June 14, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Nice rant and your new name certainly fits. You do whine to the AJC and the FBI.
The costs are thru the roof and something has to be done.
I think your case is another failure. You should be in a mental facility.
Geez.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
{{{By georgia 74 June 14, 2007 1:46 PM I think Katie Couric could whip Andi’s a*, I’d like to see it.}}}
Hell, I know Katie could whoop my as-s, did you see the arms on that Amazon?
I’d bet that anti American hog could bench press Dan Blather.
Geez.
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By Duh, Bosch
June 14, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Bosch @ 1:16,
[[Um……………….what are you talking about? Andy and I are both wrong about what exactly?]]
You really are stupid Bosch. At 12:42 you implied that I was this Andy person.
At 12:54 Andy accused you of posting my comments at 12:36 under another name to reflect negatively on him.
You were both wrong.
I speak my own truths and the two of you waste valuable time going after each other on a personal level.
I’ll be back to check this site out in another month or so.
Until then you can continue to be Stupid Bosch.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
Oh, sorry Andy, didn’t quite catch on to that. Namejacking confuses me. See, I didn’t do that to you. I’m not that mean. I’m a good peace loving liberal/progressive, remember?
Yawnnnnnn. I’m taking a nap. I’m going to stare at the back of my eyelids for a while.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
Angry Pentagon says that China intentionally understates its military spending. In related news, somewhere a pot called a kettle black.
By GodHatesTrash
June 14, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Personally, I favor mandatory abortion and sterilization of rednecks as a way to control welfare and health care costs.
Let’s face it - there are generations of rednecks that leech off the government through no fault of their own - their weak genes weakened by intergenerational and intragenerational incest, victimized by a gutter culture that despises intellectual ability and basic sanitation. However, despite their weak genes these deformities do not lack fecundity, it is quite common for them to begin breeding in their early teen years.
Another solution - most rednecks pursue an ambisexual lifestyle, meaning they will have sex with anything. Perhaps the government or a well-meaning private entity purchases every young male redneck a couple of shoats and a blow-up doll, and each female a large mutt. This would cut down drastically on their occasional same-species sexual activity, perhaps saving their children and our nation from another generation of the enfeeblement.
By The Return of Doom
June 14, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Doom has made it fashionable to change names on this blog. This Bosch idiot is some usual homocrat that normally appears under another name. Probably punka$$ getalife!
By Thanks but no thanks
June 14, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Yes getalife true Christians do indeed help the sick and poor, but there are indeed limits. While Jesus commanded on numerous occasions to help those in need, we also have this commandment from the New Testament in 2 Thes. 3:10 “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat”. This of course applies only to those who COULD work but did not.
While there is a credible argument that socialized government takes care of those who are in need, I believe a credible argument can be made that it breaks the New Testament law by allowing far too many people to not work who can. This encourages the repeated cycle of dependence on the government we see today and therefore can be harmful to our society as a whole. We need to look no further than the differences between the American Indian and other minority populations to see that socialism, while well intended, can actually keep an entire minority group mired in poverty.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Oh good. Doom is here. Summer school must be out for the day.
By @@
June 14, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Well ml, that’s two in a row that lack any creativity.
Did you just get back from vacation or something?
The old brain gears not up and running? or are they just rusted up…seized…stuck on slow?
By The Return of Doom
June 14, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
Funny morons,
Doom doesn’t recall meeting you. You must be some multi ID user! Get back in your cage before I unleash my wrath!
Don’t vote in ‘08.
By LuckoDull
June 14, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
{{{By GodHatesTrash June 14, 2007 2:03 PM Let’s face it - there are generations of rednecks that leech off the government through no fault of their own}}}
You could say the same thing about a lot of ethnic groups other than rednecks…. but you’re too much of a Coward to do it.
Rednecks are safe sport for stupid, mindless hate.
POS.
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By God Almighty
June 14, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
”” New Testament in 2 Thes. 3:10 “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat”. “”
Problem, my boy did not say that.
Like Falwell, there are lots of folks who made additions or subtractions to what my son said, without approval.
See if somebody else adds something that is contrary to the words of my son, you can’t count on it
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Hi Doom. My name is Funny morons®. Pleased to meet you. Hurry and finish your snack, fcomplete your homework and clean your room before you start playing World of Warcraft.
By The Return of Doom
June 14, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Funny Homo,
Since you’re new to Doom I’m going to let your childish comments slide, since you don’t seem to know a d@mn thing about politics anyway.
Doom doesn’t see the most of the old gang here, no one but Lucko and getafool. That is of course unless the rest of you aren’t multi ID users.
Don’t Vote in ‘08.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
{{{An alien from Mars would almost instantly diagnose the problem of the Palestinians from simply listening to their inane apologists: The problem is not the acquisition of the final seven percent of the West Bank denied in the offer to them at Camp David, but the pathology of a victim culture, one that has learned, through playing the card of terror with simultaneous appeals to multicultural guilt, how to shake down Westerners for their money, attention, and pity.}}}
Now substitute the word “Palestinian” with the word “Pinko” and read that paragraph again.
Geez.
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By Thanks but no thanks
June 14, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
“god almighty” - I said it was a New Testament commandment, not a direct quote from Jesus. Since you claim to be god - please tell me how this statement contradicts any of Jesus’ teachings? God Himself said in Genesis that man would have to labor to provide for himself. It is not Paul who is confused my “omniscient” friend, but you.
I will give you the last word on this subject as I am sure the majority of bloggers have no desire for you and me to get into a biblical debate.
By The Return of Doom
June 14, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
Thanks but no thanks,
The heathen that is impersonating God is obviously unsaved and unregenerated. Otherwise, they would believe in the whole counsel of God, not just the words of Jesus(which they don’t really believe in either unless it suits their hedonistic purposes like creating debates). You are doing wise by withdrawing from their deviish trap. The Lord is still working on Doom,however, because I love attacking evil and I don’t pull punches.
Don’t Vote in ‘08.
By Now we know...
June 14, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
…why Andy has been acting so weird lately
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
How about this: Since Republicans claim that Guantanamo is such a nice place why not send Scooter there?
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Mike Gravel won the Democratic nomination and Ron Paul won the Republican nomination?
It’ll never happen in a billion years but it sure would be interesting.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
I love this guy’s work!
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
White House spokesmoron Tony Snow is now flatly contradicting General Petraeus, telling reporters that it’s basically absurd to think that we’ll be able to judge the effectiveness of the Iraq surge by this September. Unfortunately, that contradicts what Petraeus told Bush. He said that by September we’ll have a good idea of how the surge is going.
Was Petraeus wrong, and if so, what is he doing leading the surge if he has no idea when we’ll know how it’s going? Or, more likely, is the White House now distancing itself from Petraeus and/or choosing to make military decisions that supposedly were to be left in his hands? Either way, the White House is distancing itself from the good General, and that doesn’t spell good news for his future. Oh the tangled web they weave..
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Lying Rushncap,
Actually the reason that conservatives support Israel is because it is a flourishing Democracy and we don’t want the Middle East to succumb to IslamoFascist groups like Hamas.
Your Leftist friends have been demonizing Israel for decades now, demanding that Israel give up more and more, with the idiotic idea that this will somehow bring “peace”.
Congratulations! The Gaza Strip is now firmly in control of Hamas terrorists.
By Funny morons®
June 14, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
Doom - Funny homo?! I thought you were at least of high school age. Now I can only assume you are in the 8th grade. Will you be going to the 9th in the fall?
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Oops! This is a funny blooper from Fox News.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Rushncap,
Buy Danish is right. America supports Isreal because it’s a democracy. America put the Shah in place because Iran had been a democracy. America put mines in Nicaraguan harbors because it was a democracy. We supported a dictator in Pinochet because Chile had been a democracy.
I think that you’ll find that we are very consistent our policy of supporting or overthrowing democracies. At least to the extent that they are all, or were, democracies. Soon we will overthrow Chavez. Why? Because Venezuela is a democracy. We also support Musharuf. Why? Because Pakistan isn’t a democracy.
You may think that some other factor may be at play in our support or overthrow of democracies. Don’t. Think that is. It is really impossible to be a good American if you think about things too much. So again, we support Isreal because it is a democracy. There are no other factors whatsoever. Just accept it at face value. If you don’t you might start questioning the Government and then you’ll be in danger of turning out like those insurgents who threw that tea into Boston Harbor a couple of hundred years ago and who needs that kind of criminal conduct against the Government?
I hope that this clarifies things.
Good point Danish. However, you should have also noted that natural resources have little to do with our foreign policy and that everything we do is simply based on what is right, just and moral. Further, our good deeds as outlined above have always turned out well for everyone.
RWNJIFG
By the stopper
June 14, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
I see the Stupidest Troll on the Internets has wasted yet another day.
Sleep tight, Stupidest Troll. You’ve got another day of that Hard Work your Preznit wants from you!
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
So is it the norm on this blog that when you p** people off, they think you hijack their name, or use different names? I see some try insinute (sp?) that you are gay, and some others just call you plain stupid.
Sorry to disappoint, I don’t do that, it’s just me, plain ol’ Bosch.
Oh my god, are we quoting Bible verses now? That crazy Paul (the Bible dude, not the blogger). He was quite a character wasn’t he?
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
{{{By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Lying Rushncap,
Actually the reason that conservatives support Israel is because it is a flourishing Democracy and we don’t want the Middle East to succumb to IslamoFascist groups like Hamas.
Your Leftist friends have been demonizing Israel for decades now, demanding that Israel give up more and more, with the idiotic idea that this will somehow bring “peace”.
Congratulations! The Gaza Strip is now firmly in control of Hamas terrorists.}}}
Buy Danish,
Whatever happened to W and Condi’s Middle East “Road Map”?
By Thanks but no thanks
June 14, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Normally I would not quote Bible verses. Most people don’t believe the Bible to be true, so it is a waste of time. However, I thought it was an appropriate response to getalife’s and god-almighty’s assertions about how Christians should act. As I stated earlier, I am done with theological debates for the day!
By the way, despite our obvious differences in our political and social viewpoints, I do appreciate the civilty of your responses toward me.
And yes Paul (the apostle) was quite a character. He was a neocon and socialist at the same time!
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Muffin — democracy, to conservatives, means squat, unless it’s allied with the U.S. America needs Israel as a foothold in the Middle East, and because there are enough Jews in positions of power in our government to help dictate policy. I personally don’t mind either, since I support Israel and its right to exist and protect itself. But don’t give me bu||$hit about “oh, we love Israel because it’s a democracy”. France is also a democracy, and your ilk hates it (or hated it) because it dared to cross America.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
The WH has turned into Comedy Central
Geez.
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
RWNJIFG — very good point. America, historically, supports democracies, unless there is self-interest in not doing so. So all other factors being equal, sure, American foreign will support a democracy over some other regime. The problem is, of course, that it’s rare that all else is equal. Similarly, even today America has no problems being friends with totalitarian regimes (as you have pointed out) as long as those regimes do what we need them to do.
By AmVet
June 14, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
That post at 4:10 was one of the best I’ve seen here in quite a long time.
It is extremely easy for partisans to answer extremely complicated geopolitical issues with a sound bite or overly simplistic reasons.
To me, one of the numerous answers to the question of why have we given gazillions of dollars to Israel AND Egypt over the past 50 years is to enhance our position in that historically critical area of the globe. The Rooskies have historically supported Syria, Jordan and Egypt and we can’t let them horn in on those nearby oil fields.
I don’t think it has all that much to do with democracy building as was so well pointed out by Right-wing nut job in full glory. Our track record in that area has been pretty abysmal for a long time but truly became a joke under Reagan.
But it sounds good and as everyone knows, it is the reason du jour that we’re embroiled in Iraq.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Thanks but no thanks, I am a very civil kind of person. So, you’re welcome, right back at you dude.
I did call Dusty an uneducated hillbilly once, she was making fun of my name, and it kind of irked me a bit.
I refuse to sink to calling people pieces of s**, homos, idiot, etc. I may be a little mad sometimes, like everyone, and I will slip up, but I’m usually a laid back kind of person.
Hey, I’ll debate theology anytime. It’s an interesting topic. You can usually find the real hypocrits among us when you do.
The Bible has a lot of good stuff in it, but I certainly do not take it literally, and always try to keep the verses in context.
The interesting thing about Paul’s writings is that they were written many many decades prior to the Gospels. I also think it’s so weird how many fundamental evangelical freaks will quote Paul more than Jesus. As far as I’m concerned, Christians, again, my own opinion, should only be concerned with what Jesus said. The apostles and Paul made Christianity a religion, and many of the apostles (Peter for one) really didn’t like Paul because they wanted to open up Christianity to all people - Peter on the other hand only wanted Christianity for Jews.
Many of the Gospels that didn’t make it into the cannon, refer to Jesus as just some great guy with a whole lot of wisdom, not until Paul (and John’s gospel) was it implied that Jesus was a diety.
I know you said you didn’t want to debate theology, so I’ll stop right there. Sorry, I get off on tangents sometimes.
By getalife
June 14, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
“Congratulations! The Gaza Strip is now firmly in control of Hamas terrorists”
Then there is Lebanon and Iraq.
w’s democracy thing is not working.
What a mess he has created.
This is his legacy and can see why he trying to push immigration for doing something in his terms besides setting the ME on fire.
Geez.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Coward:
{{{By nut job June 14, 2007 4:10 PM Buy Danish is right. America supports Isreal because it’s a democracy. America put the Shah in place because Iran had been a democracy. America put mines in Nicaraguan harbors because it was a democracy.}}}
America supports Israel because it is the right thing to do, are you on the side of the savages, the Nazis?
Jimmy Carter deposed the Shah of Iran and American troops are in the Middle East today cleaning up that mess.
Nicaragua was being run by a communist dictator who was threatening the neighboring country of Honduras.
Stick it up your anti American…..
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By Thanks but not thanks
June 14, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Thanks for your honest opinion of the Bible Bosch. I would love to debate theology with you, but unfortunately no one would want to see that on this blog. You and I disagree on much about the scriptures, but that is OK!
While I am one of the fundamental evangelicals, I would be willing to bet that you and I could play a round of golf and talk about religion and politics - and we would finish the round much more upset over our scores than any debating point either person made!
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
rushncap,
Just the other day you claimed that I (an others) are “Holocaust Deniers”.
Your credibility is zilch.
steve-o,
The best road map to peace is the defeat of Islamofascism.
It seems that these punks are making enemies where ever they go, whether they be Al Qaeda in Iraq or Hamas in Gaza.
Sooner or later they yearn for the “occupiers” to return.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
{{{Jimmy Carter deposed the Shah of Iran and American troops are in the Middle East today cleaning up that mess.
Nicaragua was being run by a communist dictator who was threatening the neighboring country of Honduras.}}}
LuckoDork,
Your knowledge of history is quite awful, which clearly explains your obtuse political views.
Carter didn’t depose the Shah of Iran…the people did. In the 50s, we helped to depose a very popular president, who wanted to nationalize some industries. We helped to depose him and instal the shah, who ruthlessly ruled the Iranians with an iron fist and forced them to adopt Western dress and customs. The Iranian revolution is a backlash from that.
We then decided to arm Saddam Hussein in order to depose the Iranian fundamentalist government, but he just ended up slaughtering his own people with and gassing Shias and Kurds with the WMDs that we supplied them. You know what happened.
Nicaragua was not threatening Honduras. Rather, we used Honduras as a staging ground to arm the Contras and overthrow Ortega. We also turned a blind eye to the gross and inhumane atrocities that were committed by the Contras. So much for democracy, eh?
The list can go on and on. This is a great country, it’s just a shame that we let idiots that were indifferent to human rights abuses control our foreign policy.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
Let’s see who kept their part of the bargain in the “Road Map for Peace”:
n exchange for statehood, the road map requires the Palestinian Authority to make democratic reforms and abandon the use of terrorism. Israel, for its part, must support and accept the emergence of a reformed Palestinian government and end settlement activity of the Gaza Strip and West Bank as the Palestinian terrorist threat is removed.
Ding ding ding ding ding.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
Speaking of US complacency with human rights abuses in the past, here is a column that appeared in the NYT today.
{{{The Cry of the Disappeared By ROGER COHEN International Herald Tribune NEW YORK
To disappear became a transitive verb in Latin America. Military dictatorships “disappeared” their opponents. That is to say, they kidnapped, tortured, murdered and disposed of them, leaving only an inconsolable absence in the place of a human being.
I spent some time in Argentina in the aftermath of the 1976-83 dictatorship. Enough to become familiar with countless picture frames holding images of impossibly lovely young women, taken from their homes for “brief questioning,” never to be seen again. Enough to know the unquenchable parental tears these disappearances provoked.
It was not too early then, in rooms filled with the animal sobbing of the bereaved, to feel rage at the junta’s crimes. But it was too early to know the full extent of them: the 30,000 disappeared, the torture at the Navy School of Mechanics in Buenos Aires, the corpse-dumping flights out to sea.
Argentines still hoped back in the 1980s. They hoped, whatever their heads told them, that the longing in their hearts might return their loved ones intact. No doubt, many still hope.
With disappearance, closure is impossible, for there is no evidence of an ending. In this infinite prolongation of suffering lay the particular contribution of the generals to the infliction of pain.
There was something else we did not know back then. Henry Kissinger, then secretary of state, told Admiral César Augusto Guzzetti, the Argentine foreign minister, in June 1976: “If there are things that have to be done, you should do them quickly. But you should get back quickly to normal procedures.”
Later, Kissinger assured the admiral that the administration “won’t cause you unnecessary difficulties.” He also grew angry when he learned that the U.S. ambassador in Buenos Aires, Robert Hill, has given the junta a warning about violations of human rights. “In what way is it compatible with my policy?” Kissinger asked, before suggesting that Hill might have to go.
These exchanges, records of which were obtained in recent years under the federal Freedom of Information Act by the nonprofit National Security Archive, suggest how the surrogate battles of the Cold War, as fought in th
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
(((By getalife June 14, 2007 5:11 PM “Congratulations! The Gaza Strip is now firmly in control of Hamas terrorists”}}}
al-Gitmo: The Hamas terrorists defeated the Fatah terrorists, killing a bunch of scumbags doing it. This is a win for the free world which is why you are moping, another massive loss for your beloved suicide bombers.
Hamas is no match for the IDF and will have to be on their best behavior, lest they become mere targets for Israel’s army.
You libs understand nothing about the Arab World.
Geez.
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By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Who are you referring to when you said:
{{{It seems that these punks are making enemies where ever they go, whether they be Al Qaeda in Iraq or Hamas in Gaza.}}}?
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Sure Muffin, you post white separationist crap and MY credibility is zilch. Thanks for playing.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
{{{al-Gitmo: The Hamas terrorists defeated the Fatah terrorists, killing a bunch of scumbags doing it. This is a win for the free world which is why you are moping, another massive loss for your beloved suicide bombers.}}}
LuckoDork,
You idiot, Fatah in in Palestine is totally opposite from Fatah-al-Islam in Lebanon. Fatah are secular and Hamas are Islamic fundamentalists. Fatah President Abbas is interested in negotiating with Israel in establishing a Palestinian state while Hamas refuses to recognize Israel.
Read the news instead of having that fatass in Palm Beach dictate it to you.
Geez.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Luck,
You seem to be confused. I am on your side. I am afterall, Right Wing Nut Job in Full Glory.
I just wanted to point out the marvelous consistency of our foreign policy throughout the years. (With the notable exception of Democratic Presidencies which don’t support democracy and have no idea what the right thing is.)
Clearly we promote democracy and freedom around the world, but sometimes the right thing to do is to support a democracy that may come in a couple of centuries, but not right now. This especially true when those democracies vote for people we don’t like, or might. I’m not sure that you can even call that a democracy anyway. A democracy which votes for people we like is a true democracy. A democracy who votes for people we don’t are not democracies, are enemies and the right thing to do is to impose a dictator until we know that they will vote for a person who we like.
I mean can a democracy really vote for a socialist, or for a Islamic theocracy? Of course not. That’s just not democratic. Those people would need a little more dictator time to get their priorities straight.
Until then we will just say that our motives are to support democracy, like Buy Danish said. Its easier to kill for that anyway rather than getting all caught up on nuance.
BTW: can we apply that logic to our own elections? I mean that if the people elect say, Gore, don’t we have the right to just do the right thing and get the other guy in?
RWNJIFG
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I’m the one who said that about The Gaza Strip, not Getalife.
There is very little difference between Fatah and Hamas.
My point was the futility of Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza and how it did absolutely nothing to bring peace to the area.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
The article at 5:36 was cut off:
{{{These exchanges, records of which were obtained in recent years under the federal Freedom of Information Act by the nonprofit National Security Archive, suggest how the surrogate battles of the Cold War, as fought in the American hemisphere, drew the United States into forms of complicity that remain a shadow on its conscience.
More recently, the historian Robert Dallek unearthed transcripts in the National Archives that show Kissinger, bitter at negative newspaper coverage of the 1973 coup in Chile, complaining to President Richard Nixon that, “in the Eisenhower period, we would be heroes.” The coup would lead to thousands of “disappearances.”
I was thrust back into this Latin American vortex, which haunted me in the 1980s, by a powerful show called “The Disappeared” at New York’s El Museo del Barrio. It features works about horrors, often followed by impunity, to which the United States turned a blind eye at best.
Ana Tiscornia’s blurred portraits, palimpsests in which the subjects seem to hover between life and death, capture the slow fading of the disappeared, and their flickering hold on those from whom they were seized.
A corridor full of photographs of young couples feature women who were pregnant when “disappeared.” The Argentine military would wait for the child to be born before murdering the mother. The babies went to childless military couples. Laconic captions say: “The couple and their child remain disappeared.”
As Laurel Reuter and Julian Zugazagoitia write in their introduction to the show, organized by the North Dakota Museum of Art, the artists “ask us, as North Americans, to question what role our own country played in supporting the Latin American governments which killed their people as a matter of course.”
The artists also ask us something else. This month six human rights groups listed 39 people they believe are secretly imprisoned in unknown locations by the United States as part of the war on terror.
President George W. Bush acknowledged last year that some individuals deemed particularly dangerous had been moved “to an environment where they can be held secretly.” In effect, categorized as enemy combatants, they have been “disappeared.”
This practice is unconscionable. It does not matter that the purpose of the disa
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
steve-o,
I’m referring to corrupt and violent Islamist thugs. Who the hell do you think I’m referring to? Jerry Falwell’s ministry?
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the truth, Considering I’ve only played golf once in my life, my golf scores would be quite a joke and laughing point. I’m a soccer player, I prefer the contact sports personally.
Religion is certainly an interesting topic. I have many evangelical friends, Mother Bosch is a hard core evangelical. You know, as long as someone can debate their beliefs without name calling-I’m okay with that. We all have our beliefs and I’m not in the business to change people’s minds about what they believe. It’s just when they try to impose their beliefs on me - well, I have a real problem with that. I’m a real firm believer of seperation of church and state.
I think that everyone to stick to their own beliefs and not get so upset when people disagree.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
There is a HUGE difference between Fatah and Hamas. Fatah are relatively secular while Hamas are religious fundamentalists.
Yes, Fatah has been plagued by corruption and abuses of power, but Hamas are extremists.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
The “violent Islamist thugs” ARE Hamas and Al Qaeda in Iraq, that’s why I asked the question.
And we can call Falwell’s ministry “Hamas Lite” without the violence and martyrdom, and with the added Christian flavor.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-zero June 14, 2007 5:33 PM Carter didn’t depose the Shah of Iran}}}
Why don’t you carry your Etch a Sketch version of history to some other playground.
Geez.
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By steve-o
June 14, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
LuckoDork,
First of all, what the hell does “IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC” mean?
Second of all, you clearly cannot debate history due to your lack of knowledge of it, hence your little feeble “etch-a-sketch” jibe.
Pick up a history book and READ it just time instead of looking at the pictures. Better yet, do what grownups do and read books without pictures. I know that it’s something that your dumbass commander-in-chief is incapable of, but you’ll see that it can get you far in life. Not everyone can become president while being illiterate.
By Right-wing nut job in full glory
June 14, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
Steve-o,
You libs will never understand that you’ve got to breaks a few eggs to make an omelette. I don’t understand why we have to dwell on these things. Slavery, genocide of the Native Americans, supporting dictators, overthrowing democracies, etc… Doesn’t it just feel better to say:
“Its the right thing to do” or “we support democracy?” I mean you get into all of these facts and things just get too depressing.
It almost seems as if we just do what is our best interest at the time and then label it for popular consumption (propaganda) later or hope people forget or ignored it the first time, but I don’t feel the need to go there, ‘cause I’m:
RWNJIFG
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-o June 14, 2007 5:44 PM Fatah are secular and Hamas are Islamic fundamentalists. Fatah President Abbas is interested in negotiating with Israel}}}
Say what?
The Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine (Fatah) was founded in the early 1960s by Yasser Arafat and friends of his in Algeria, Fatah was originally opposed to the founding of the PLO, which it viewed as a political opponent. Backed by Syria, Fatah began carrying out terrorist raids against Israeli targets in 1965, launched from Jordan, Lebanon and Egyptian-occupied Gaza (so as not to draw reprisals against Syria). Dozens of raids were carried out each year, exclusively against civilian targets.
You do know that there is this thing called the internet, don’t you? That you can’t just revise history to the way your little punk rear end likes it, that we can like check every thing you say?
My goodness, the only reason Arafat ever sought “peace” with Israel is to stop them from slaughtering his “armies,” geez, what j******* you are steve zero.
With that thought in mind, I’m through responding to your childish….
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By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this
{{{By Buy Danish June 14, 2007 5:45 PM Andy, I’m the one who said that about The Gaza Strip, not Getalife.}}}
I know, I was responding to al-Gitmo’s whole mopey little post about Al Qaeda being slaughtered in Iraq and Lebanon.
You can tell how sad he is about that so I piled on.
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By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
I wonder if Bosch at 4:14 has ever met Bosch at 10:50?
Bosch,
At least wait a day or two before claiming you never do what you just did. It’s a little too obvious when you only wait a few hours.
I see that not a single one of you or your fan club disputed my factual argument about infant mortality rate discrepancies. So typical.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
steve-o,
“Relatively secular”. Is that like being a little bit pregnant?
Here are documents from “secular” Fatah members to Arafat. Damn if they don’t keep mentioning Allah and aligning themselves with groups like “islamic jihad”.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-o June 14, 2007 6:01 PM Pick up a history book and READ it just time instead of looking at the pictures.}}}
I was on the border of Honduras and Nicaragua when Ortega was in charge.
I don’t need your Decatur as-s telling me about anything.
See ya.
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By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this
RW,
Like most idiot Lefitst’s Bosch is incapable of disputing anything.
His incredibly lame argument to me when I asked him to dispute ONE thing that I posted was this:
{{{June 14, 2007 11:19 AM |
Buy Danish, I’m not trying to dispute the specific facts from your random newspaper article. I’m sure that they are true. Good job. You get an “A” for that assignment. I’m sure that all that stuff mentioned in that random newspaper article is for real. There’s no need to dispute it.
But to try and apply one random newspaper article to speak for the entire population of Sweden is, well, simply ignorant. To try and apply your “information” to describe, what did you call it? An institutionalized ideology, well, that’s simply ignorant and arrogant as well.
Do you personally KNOW any Swedes? Are you good friends with them? What’s their opinion?
Sure, there are many Europeans who really dislike Muslims, there are many Americans here that hate them too. No, things are perfect in Europe, they aren’t perfect anywhere. No, I don’t want to live in Europe, I’m an American citizen who has a great life here, and a great family who enjoys their life here.
Again, what’s your point? Move on to something else.}}}
Got that? A series of linked stories is one “random article” in his estimation and he thinks there is one person out there who “speaks for the entire population of Sweden”.
I’d sure like him to find that person right here in the USA first.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
RW/Buy Danish, You are just mad, that’s okay. What was your point earlier about infant mortality? It wasn’t a cohesive thought then, and I doubt you could better now.
Yes, I have met that earlier Bosch, we are the same person. It’s very obvious that you and Buy Danish are one in the same. You claimed earlier to run off to work, the funny thing is, you were at work. You are a paid blogger for the AJC - I’m not.
Why did you (as Buy Danish) start posting random newspaper articles about Sweden? That was really weird.
But, please, come back around, I’ll be glad to debate you. Earlier, your comments about socialized medicine in Europe were just simply wrong. You don’t know what you are talking (or writing) about. I covered what I know about socialized medicine in my earlier posts. I can copy and paste them for you if you need me to.
By steve-o
June 14, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
LuckoDork and Buy Danish,
Fatah are not Islaminc extremists. They have no ties to Al Qaeda. They are not Wahabbists. They use some religious symbolism, so what? We’re not a theocracy, yet we put “In God We Trust” on the back of our coins.
LuckoDork,
What the hell do you mean by my “Decatur as-s”?
Also, what were you doing on the border of Honduras and Nicaragua?
Ortega was not threatening Honduras. We used Honduras as a staging ground to fund and arm the Sandanistas through arms sales to Iran. You remember that little scandle, don’t you?
By getalife
June 14, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
I am sad we have failed leadership and is making the problem worse for us and Israel.
I see bad karma coming.
By rushncap
June 14, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
I think RW is again running around claiming that he won something. Must be that time of day.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Wouldn’t that “”one random”” article tag apply to every single article ever written? I’ll give the dunce credit for stamina though, I would think his fingertips would be bleeding by now. Maybe that’s why he wants us to chip in for his insurance.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
No Buy Danish/RW, you seemed earlier to think that those random links somehow were relevant. You seem to do that alot.
I told you earlier that there was no need to try and dispute the facts in your articles/blogs, etc. I told you were probably right about that. I’m sure those things happened.
Your problem is that you don’t have good debating skills. You pull random articles from random sources with no cohesion or relevance whatsoever.
Apparently, more people on this blog agree with me. You are one person who gets paid to try to stir things up, but you aren’t very good at it. The AJC isn’t getting their monies worth.
Just so you know, that post of mine you just pasted, that WAS my dispute.
Do you actually KNOW anyone that lives and is a citizen of a European country that has socialized medicine? That was the topic at the time and you started bringing in your typical “Muslims are bad” articles.
By IN THE WHINING TO THE AJC, Waaaaaahhhhh!!!!
June 14, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
RW: I know, I noticed that too, Bosch has some pretty wild mood swings, only surpassed by the ones al-Gitmo has:
{{{By Bosch June 13, 2007 12:07 PM Yeah, we’ll just see how it all plays out. I really hope you proove me wrong. Who knows, maybe it will work out like your Sheik guys says it will. Those Iraqi government officials have been so reliable in their predictions so far haven’t they? Freedom and democracy are the two things I really wish would be working out in Iraq. I also want peace to work out as well, you forgot that one. I’m sure it was just an oversight on your part.}}}
I actually thought I glimpsed some humanity within that empty skull but then a few minutes later and off we went:
{{By Bosch June 13, 2007 12:14 PM Oh yeah, I forgot, the 50 secret police sent to Amiriyah are going to wipe out al-Qaeda there. We’re all saved!!!!!!!!! }}}
Geez.
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By Paul
June 14, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish
The other day I made the point Congress should pass the Immigration bill, then address weaknesses in subsequent legislation. You said that’d never happen, especially with an entitlement program. Well, you were correct. Given a major reason for the breakdown was Republican efforts to exclude convicted felons from the citizenship, and Democrats would not compromise - well, I’d say you had a good read on this one.
Buy Danish - RW-(the original)
Much earlier today I posted a link of a great discussion regarding the law and Enemy Combatants (plus a few other categories). It was very illuminating and dispelled much of the popular nonsense that is tossed about. There was a call-in segment. I was pleasantly surprised an NPR outfit would let through the strident callers they did (one in particular sounded as if he were reading some postings from this site) - but they did - and his points were politely, yet blithely, dismissed.
I’m not sure how long the archived pieces are accessible but here’s the link:
Link: US, International Law and Enemy Combatants
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I started posting articles about Sweden after one of the idiot leftists listed all the glorious socialist utopias in the world that supposedly have “lower infant mortality rates” than we do
I just picked Sweden at random.
{{{By Partial List of Socialist Countrys
June 14, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
Canada
Denmark (Yes, it is good to buy Danish)
Norway
Sweden
Great Britain
Spain
Germany
France
All have lower infant mortality rates and longer life expectancies.}}}
This theme was continued by “The Watcher” who questioned RWs claim yet, like you, provided not one bit of evidence to support his position.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Andy, I can have some pretty wild mood swings. I’ve never seen you or RW/Buy Danish (or are you all the same) rant and rave about anything ha ha.
I’m a pretty sarcastic person.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
Shouldn’t a cartoon named Fowl Language be about Midori?
Bosch,
The infant mortality debate has come up here about twenty times and about ten times ago I quit linking to the studies. It’s possible that you’re new here, but it’s much more likely you’re one of same lame leftists that loses arguments over and over with a new name each time. You can search the archives here or the internet with very simple tools that are at your disposal.
I didn’t specify Europe, you ditz. Michael Moore’s little hit piece that you’re slobbering over is about Cuba. That being said where do you think the phrase “”government health care smile”” came from. Hint-It’s usually spoken by half toothless Brits.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
BoschDhimmi,
They weren’t “random links” you freaking idiot. They were a series of links about life in the Totalitarian Socialist Utopia of Sweden. Sorry you’re too dumb to get the point.
And since you are continuing with the “do you actually know anybody” theme, let me ask you a question:
Do you know any ballerinas who are ballet critics?
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
And you, RW/BD didn’t give anything to support your claim. You just posted very ridiculous, inaccurate claims about socialized medicine in Europe.
Give me an actual fact, and I’ll go from there.
Were any of those random articles about infant mortality rates in Sweden? I can’t remember.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
Thanks Paul,
I’ll check it out later this evening when the Spurs are polishing off Cleveland.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Glad to have steered you in the right direction.
I didn’t even have to post a “random article” to do it!
I’ll check your link out later…
By Political Foreskin
June 14, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
Last word on Soprano finale.
The unseen alternate ending filmed so that the cast wouldn’t be tempted to leak the broadcast was this: Tony and his family (sans Meadow) are enjoying onion rings at the booth in the ice cream parlor, when the suspicious guy goes to the bathroom. Tony goes in there after him, and as they use adjacent urinals, Tony says, “Looks clean, eh? Where was AJ at earlier?”
“He just drove around a bit, and came right here. Right, theres nobody here. You’re good.”
“good, hows your guy outside doin?”
“Good”.
“Good”.
“Yeah, good.”
Tony zips and walks out without washing. The guy watches him closely as he pushes through the restroom door.
Meadow is at the table when Tony returns. Tony stands there just a moment taking in his family and the camera closes up tight on his satisfaction.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I didn’t post a single thing about Socialized medicine.
My fact based links had to do with the bankrupt policies of Socialism in general.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
Yes, BD/RW, those were random links. Sorry, you can’t get out of that one. Sorry your too ignorant to know the differnce between popular press and actual statistics.
Do you have actual statistics to support your outlandish claims?
No, I don’t know any ballerinas who are ballet critics, but I have many friends and family members who are citizens of certain European countries.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Since you’re the one claiming to be the expert, isn’t it incumbent upon you to provide proof?
Buy Danish,
I’m about ready to cut this clown loose until he figures out we’re two different people. It wouldn’t hurt if he learned that the word “”loose”” is different from the word “”lose”” either, but I digress….
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
So, what are those “bankrupt policies” of socialism in general? Please elaborate.
The topic earlier was about socialied medicine.
As I wrote earlier, no things aren’t perfect anywhere.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
OMG! I spent the whole freaking morning citing example after example of how disastrous socialist ideology has been in Sweden and you are asking me for examples of bankrupt policies?
Here’s an assignment for you: Read the links I provided. Every single one of them, including what I couldn’t actually cite here but are contained in the full articles.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this
You want me to provide proof to dispute claims like this?
So let’s say you have a heart attack today, would you be happy to wait four weeks for treatment?
How about, I know people who’ve had heart attacks who live in Europe and they didn’t have to wait four weeks for treatment? Is that okay for you, or do you need their actual medical records because I don’t think i can get those.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
Yes, I sometimes confuse those words, my bad. And I meant to say earlier at 6:55, that things aren’t perfect anywhere. Sorry about that too.
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I want you to back your claim about how much worse the infant mortality rate is here versus countries with socialized medicine. Please provide the full statistics on how they arrive at their numbers.
Are you really this stupid? Ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is forever. Sucks to be you I guess.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
BD, You cited source after source of random articles from a newspaper. That hardly prooves the “bankrupt policies” of Sweden that you claim.
By Bosch
June 14, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
Well, the problem there RW is that I never made that claim.
By Buy Danish
June 14, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
Read the freaking articles and stop making false claims about how they are all “one random article”.
The information is culled from various sources including books, articles, et cetera.
Dispute ONE fact from the info I provided instead of lamely trying to shoot the messenger.
By Political Foreskin
June 14, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this
Last word on Sopranos finale: The second runner up ending, and one which was favored by Chase himself, is this:
Meadow struggles to parallel park and her frustration starts to rise. She’s dangerously close to full road rage. She pull out of the spot for one more attempt when an even smaller car pulls directly into the spot. That sends Meadow over the edge and she storms out of her car screaming.
Tony hears Meadow and thinks she’s crying for help and he leaps from the booth and scrambles for the door.
By the time Tony sees Meadow, shes wailing and flailing at the parking thief who himself is forced to grab Meadow’s wrists. To Tony it looks like an assault…..
The suspicious guy is seen exiting the parlor, gazing intently at an oblivious Tony who approaches the melee with his gun drawn.
Tony yells. Meadow looks up, and sees the suspicious guy pull a gun. “Dad, behind you…”
Tony turns and fires, killing the rat. Then he turns to kill the parking thief, who runs away.
Tony looks at Meadow, “What the F—-“?
Meadow regains her composure, smiles and says, “what the f—-“
fade to black, sirens in background
By RW-(the original)
June 14, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this
Bosch,
I’m now fully convinced that you’re one of the libs that just returns over and over to tilt at the same windmills with a different name.
Go read YOUR 9:52 and come back with the backup. Your claim is that my statement is the second most ignorant of the day. Since, as I told you earlier and you also alluded to today, ignorance can cured by facts. Now run along and don’t come back until you have the proof that my statement was ignorant.
Since you can even make that claim you are ipso facto claiming to be an expert. Now, as they say, put up or shut up.
By Bosch
June 15, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
RW, There’s another problem with your rants, I also never claimed to be an expert in calculating infant mortality rates either.
But here’s what you wrote earlier, “That infant mortality rate is simply because many countries do nothing to save the lives of premature babies or those born with defects and don’t ever count them as a life”
Please tell me, or rather, enlighten me with your brilliance, where you concluded that many countries do nothing to save the lives of premature babies or those born with defects.
Yes, I’ll give you that some Third World countries may not have the resources available, is that what you were talking about?
If you are going to make outrageous statements like that, you really need to back it up with some facts. Otherwise it makes you sound completely disingenuous.
By RW-(the original)
June 15, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Bosco,
You told me my statement was IGNORANT not OUTRAGEOUS which means you are proclaiming yourself an expert. Back it up bozo. BTW, it’s very easy to look up.
For those of you playing along at home, look up infant mortality and pay attention to how a country classifies a live birth. Pay special attention to perinatal rates.
By Buy Danish
June 15, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Stevie,
I don’t give a flip. It’s your pal Bosch you need to worry about.
{{{By Bosch
June 15, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
I wonder what it must be like to live in a world where anytime anybody disagrees with you, your automatic response is that the other person must be stupid. It’s probably pretty lonely and sad.}}}
At the time Bosch posted that^^^^ no one had used the word “stupid” or any synonymn of it.
He has probably been called “stupid” so many times in his life that the word just rings in his ears perpetually and now he hallucinates that people have used the word when they haven’t.