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By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
You liberals watch a lot of TV?:
{{{The National Cultural Values Survey reveals a striking correlation between greater exposure to television and permissive moral views. Heavy television viewers (four hours or more per evening) are less committed to character virtues like honesty and charity, and more permissive about sex, abortion and homosexuality. Light television viewers (one hour or less per evening) are more likely to attend religious services and live their lives by God’s principles. Heavy television viewers are much likelier than light viewers to expect government to provide retirement (64 percent to 43 percent) and health care (63 percent to 48 percent).}}}
The only thing I watched last year was 24.
That’s six mnutes a night.
Hehehehehehehe.
Geez.
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{{{Hundreds of thousands of men (and women, too) from the world’s great freedom loving nations risked imminent death to breach Fortress Europe and free it from the grip of a ruthless, racist, bloodthirsty military dictatorship. (It’s become trendy in recent years to compare certain American politicians to Nazis. But show me the ovens, the gas chambers or the factories where the skins of ethnic minorities are turned into lampshades and maybe we can talk. Otherwise, zip it, donkey.)}}}}
Yes, zip it.
Do us all a favor.
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Geez, giving the free passes to the hardest criminals first:
{{{The Senate voted yesterday to grant amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who have already been caught and ordered deported but are defying a court order, preserving their path to citizenship as part of the immigration bill.}}}
We don’t want to make those hardcore felons angry, we need their votes!
While Scooter Libby goes to jail over nothing.
Cowards, disgusting wormy little wasters of the US Senate, POS.
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By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
{{{President Bush’s nominee for surgeon general, Kentucky cardiologist Dr. James Holsinger, has come under fire from gay rights groups for writing in 1991 that gay sex is unnatural.-Urinal}}}
It is unnatural, you idiots.
Did you skip biology classes or is that the public education you received shining through?
Just because you perverts are clever enough to use a part of the human anatomy for something it wasn’t intended to be used for doesn’t make you better than every body else.
It makes you a pervert-
{{{per•vert -verb: to turn to an improper use; misapply.}}}
Duh.
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{{{Group: Climate change imperils world landmarks- Rising seas, spreading deserts, intensifying weather and other harbingers of climate change, (that we haven’t seen any sign of yet.) The U.S. locations also include historic Route 66, the fabled east-west highway flanked by eccentric, deteriorating attractions, and the New York State Pavilion, a rusting remnant of the 1964 World’s Fair in New York City’s Queens borough. —————>”On this list, man is indeed the real enemy,”<————— Bonnie Burnham, president of the New York-based fund, said in a statement.- Urinal}}}
You got that everybody? The oceans could rise 50 feet, maybe, even if basic math shows that to be impossible, but if they do it’s your fault.
Scare mongering like this is America’s REAL enemy.
The “brave” liberals would rather fight you than Al Qaeda.
Cowards.
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{{{IN 1864, WITH THE BRAND-NEW Republican Party a mere four years in power, Democrats smelled political blood in all the horrendous military defeats that had occurred during Abraham Lincoln’s watch. Lacerating Lincoln as an incompetent buffoon and an idiot, they nominated General George McClellan on what was instantly dubbed by Republicans as a “surrender platform.” As historian Richard Carwardine detailed in his recent Lincoln biography, McClellan labeled the Civil War and Lincoln’s efforts to end slavery a “failure.” Running flat out on this platform, McClellan famously lost.}}}
Sound familiar?
You’re gonna hate 08®.
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By candide
June 7, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Bush is even more deadly a menace that Andrew Speaker.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this
Pandering to the Christians that they have spent their whole lives hating on, now they need votes:
{{{Rev. Jim Wallis, editor-in-chief of Sojourners magazine, and an organizer of the forum, has been telling Democrats not to cede religion to Republicans. He has spoken at several Democratic Party retreats, teaching Democrats how to speak about faith.}}}
“Teaching” them how to speak of Faith?
Geez.
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{{{In his book “An Inconvenient Truth,” Al Gore confesses that global warming: “offers us the chance to experience what very few generations in history have had the privilege of knowing: a generational mission ; the exhilaration of a compelling moral purpose ; a shared and unifying cause ; the thrill of being forced by circumstances to put aside the pettiness and conflict that so often stifle the restless human need for transcendence; the opportunity to rise .. “When we do rise, it will fill our spirits and bind us together.}}}
Why don’t he just go to Church?
And leave the US economy alone?
Geez.
What a dummie.
{{{In a fat, rich country like America, the kind of “chemophobia” Carson championed only led us to waste money on various kinds of nonessential cleanups. In the developing world, the fear of DDT has led to massive human deaths from malaria over the last 40 years. But somehow the halos on environmental prophets remain unaffected by the human destruction their dogmas wreak.}}}
{{{I am not qualified to evaluate the scientific case for global warming. But three things about global warming give me pause.}}}
{{{1. It transforms the United States, as the world’s most successful economy, into the chief evildoer in the world;}}}
{{{2. It justifies a massive extension of government power to regulate all aspects of our lives;}}}
{{{3. It makes having children a sin against the Earth. (Indeed, China recently justified its coercive one-child policy on carbon-reducing grounds.)}}}
You know what I mean?
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By Mrs. Godzilla
June 7, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this
No surprises here.
The Republican Candidates may want to avoid Bush…..but most of the rest of us just want the knucklehead gone!
Why Wait for ‘08?
Impeachment.
Indictment.
Incarceration.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
{{{Early Thompson supporters like Mattingly are Reagan Republicans to the core. They don’t talk about reducing the cost of government; they obsess about it. They’re skeptical of the influence of special-interest groups, and of government intervention in our lives. These are not “neocons,” but rather the last lions of the Reagan era. They’re soft-spoken, but passionate.}}}
I wouldn’t matter if the next Republican president were George Washington’s sister, the sniveling Coward liberals would still whine and tell all kinds of lies about her.
Anybody that thinks who ever we elect will make a difference to the liberals is naive at best.
Bush is all but a lib, he’s expanded government on such a massive scale that LBJ must be blushing, where ever that Coward may be.
It’s just the nature of this vicious little animal, the pinko®.
Stupid, snarling beast “bravely” barking at the weather but will turn tail and run at the first sign of a real enemy, like Islam fascists.
Cowards.
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By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
WE did it!
{{{All three amendments were seen as potentially fatal blows to the bill, which would tighten borders, hike penalties for those who hire illegals and give many of the country’s estimated 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.}}}
You did it!
Yes!
God Bless America.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
Robert Novak reports tonight that controversial former U.S. attorney in Arkansas Tim Griffin, who resigned last week, will join Fred Thompson’s presidential campaign as rumored
SMOOTH FIRST MOVE
PLEASE PLEASE NOMINATE FRED!!!
Tim Griffin, formerly right hand man to Karl Rove, resigned Thursday as US Attorney for Arkansas hours after BBC Television ‘Newsnight’ reported that Congressman John Conyers requested the network’s evidence on Griffin’s involvement in ‘caging voters.’ Greg Palast, reporting for both BBC Newsnight and Democracy Now, obtained a series of confidential emails dating from the 2004 presidential election in which the GOP operative transmitted so-called ‘caging lists’ of voters to state party leaders.
PLEASE PLEASE NOMINATE FRED
GOP GETS THE GATE IN 08
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
More diarrhea from Luckoloser. It really needs to get out more but I’m sure it’s been a long time since it has been exposed to the sun.
Excellent ‘toon Mr. Luckovich. One of your finest.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
LuckoDork,
Ahhh, it’s refreshing to see that you never cease with your incessant bullshiit posts. But this morning, I am thoroughly convinced that YOU epitomize the problems with this country. The ignorance that you show has been endemic in our country over the past six years and is the reason that our military is over-extended and exploited in a useless war. It’s blind partisan lemmings like you that fuels the aspirations of despots and dictators.
08 will be great because it will finally be shown that it is the neoCONs that are the most out-of-touch political group in America, as well it will be shown that it is the fear-mongering of neoCONs that exhibits the most un-American behavior.
But I’ll let you get back to your “Oh lawd have mercy…them Muslims is tryin’ to kill us! What we’s gon do??!!”
Coward.
Pawn.
Punk.
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By Paul
June 7, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Funny morons
Really? I got a kick out of the consultant teaching Democrats how to talk about faith. From what I saw on CNN, Hillary needs to go to another retreat.
BTW - I think the entire thing’s a nonissue. Amusing (many Dems ridiculed Reps on this, now they’re on the bandwagon for votes), but not exactly a defining requirement for a candidate.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
“Remember, the whole point of terrorism is to sow terror. Every time a conservative or the Bush Adminsitration freaks out at a potential act of terrorism, the terrorists win. They don’t actually have to set off the bomb, they just need to scare people. So every freak out is a victory for the enemy. Fox News? One of the terrorists’ biggest allies. The Bush Administration? The terrorists couldn’t have done it without them. And those “manly men” conservatives that are perpetually wetting themselves in fear?
Well, when even the most hapless, incompetent, laughably unworkable plots get them riled up in a tizzy, you don’t even need competent terrorists to be effective.
Conservatives are truly the terrorists’ greatest allies.”
Kos
LUCKODULL
TRY REPEATING THIS ALL DAY LONG MAKE IT YOUR PERSONAL MANTRA
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
– the Litany against Fear, Paul Herbert
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
{{{By steve-o June 7, 2007 8:45 AM LuckoDork,}}}
3 paragraphs of worn out moonbat talking points, gee, how impressive.
Stevie: In the liberals drive to dumb down America, turning everyone into mindless, couch potatoes capable only of mouthing stupid socialist anti American slogans, I must admit, they have had great success with you.
So babble on, brave warrior, babble on.
Geez.
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By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
{{{A battle and airstrikes in southern Afghanistan left 30 suspected Taliban dead or wounded, the Ministry of Defense said Thursday.}}}
Good riddance.
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By Paul
June 7, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
In the News
Kos vs Stratfor. Hmmmmm. Tough choice.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON, June 6 — Six human rights groups on Wednesday released a list of 39 people they believe have been secretly imprisoned by the United States and whose whereabouts are unknown, calling on the Bush administration to abandon such detentions.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
LuckoDork,
Dumb down America? You can give that accolade to your dumbass “Commander-in-Chief”. Evidently you buy his and his propaganda machine’s bullshiit hook, line, and sinker.
You probably don’t know a damn thing about the Middle East let alone the difference between Sunni and Shia. And the hilarious thing is that you still believe that we should have went into Iraq, despite OVERWHELMING evidence indicating that it has been a terrible mistake.
But go ahead…I’m sure you love the sound of Limbaugh’s voice whispering in your ear while you’re grabbing your ankles…
“It’s okay, our supreme Commander-in-Chief will protect you. We won’t let those Arabs kill you. It’s okay. Just relax. It will be all over soon. I promise to cook you some freedom toast afterwards.”
Coward.
Pawn.
Sally.
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By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Note the difference between what LuckoDull posts and what Steve-o has to offer.
The conservative posts informative and interesting links to newsworthy stories and adds commentary.
The bloviating liberal attacks the conservative personally but doesn’t provide one bit of useful information.
LuckoDull,
In addition to going to church, Al Gore may want to try a ride on a rollercoaster if he’s looking for thrills.
I think I’ll send him a ticket to Six Flags.
By Sailor
June 7, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
the sailor said Andi/e, you’re a fine girl
Easy baby - some of our sex acts are considered perverted by many.
Actually, any sex act you’re involved in, girlfriend, is kinky kinky kinky. That’s what we like about you, loverlips…
Sailor
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
I was wondering where Cynthia Tucker was at today:
{{{By Sailor June 7, 2007 9:06 AM the sailor said Andi/e, you’re a fine girl Easy baby - some of our sex acts are considered perverted by many. Actually, any sex act you’re involved in, girlfriend, is kinky kinky kinky. That’s what we like about you, loverlips… Sailor}}}
What ever are you talking about, Cynthia Tucker?
Considering I’ve never personally met you and if I did I doubt if you and I would jump in bed, doesn’t this seem a little odd, Cynthia Tucker?
Geez.
Grow up Cynthia Tucker.
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By Deport 12 million scumbags
June 7, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/07/war.adviser.ap/index.html
The military buildup in Iraq has a high-profile skeptic in the Bush administration: the Army general President Bush has chosen to manage that war and the one in Afghanistan.
Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute questioned Bush’s strategy of sending thousands more troops into Iraq.
If the costs weren’t so astronomically high and the results so abysmally pitiful, and if the losses weren’t so tragic and needless, this would all be comedic.
Instead it’s like a Roman tragedy with Bush acting the role of incompetent supreme emperor.
Shame on those who ever did, but especially those misguided fools who still, support this man’s insane ideas about invasion and occupation.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
PAUL
TO BE ACCURATE IT IS
FEAR VS. COURAGE
AND ITS ONLY A TOUGH CHOICE FOR THE RIGHTS’ LUNATIC FRINGE
REMEMBER LUCKODULL IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN HERE IN THE HOME OF THE BRAVE
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
Here’s some information sure to be ignored by the MSM.
Naming names: The Saddam-al Qaida connection Captured Baathists reveal alliance with Islamo-terrorists
{{{WASHINGTON – It has been denied, downplayed, overlooked, forgotten, disregarded and omitted from the public record.
But a thorough review of open-source material demonstrates conclusive and widespread cooperation between former members of Saddam Hussein’s Baathist regime and terrorists from the Iraqi al-Qaida network.
Dozens of former Saddam Hussein loyalists captured by U.S.-led coalition forces in Iraq were found to be working with al-Qaida or linked to their operations. }}}
Did anyone wonder how it was “Saddam’s loyalists” were able to hook up with Al Qaeda so easily? How did they find each other if there was no connection?
Maybe they took out ads at eharmony.com.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
{{{In addition to going to church, Al Gore may want to try a ride on a rollercoaster if he’s looking for thrills}}}
Oh that was infomative!!
That’s the thing. LuckoDork’s posts are far from informative. In fact, one would become dumber in reading them. They’re all propaganda that promote an agenda that we all know is bullshiit anyway.
This Republicans have had six years to get it right, and the world is a lot worse now that it was before he was elected. In fact, it is a lot worse now than before we invaded Iraq. The Middle East is definitely worse off now than it has been in the past 30 years. And that is FACT!
But clearly, the GOP and their blind followers love to wallow in fear and trepidation. It is that type of thinking that led Europe into the Dark Ages. Fortunately this country is waking up and the MAJORITY of Americans are turning their backs on our grossly incompetent President and his bass-ackward agenda.
By Paul
June 7, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this
In The News 9:14
Do I understand you that the only people who see radical Islam as a fundamental danger to the West (regardless of the incompetence of some Islamists) are members of an American right-wing lunatic fringe?
Just searching for a reference point -
sidebar - my difficulty with Kos is most comments I’ve read view events through a singularly American, anti-Bush/Republican lens.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
{{{What ever are you talking about, Cynthia Tucker?}}}
Lucko Dork,
You wish in your wildest dreams that a woman as fine and intelligent as Cynthia Tucker would be stalking your punkass. Give up and go back to wanking it to Mann Coulter.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish @ 9:16,
Cut the shiit out! So you gave us a link to a right-wing propaganda website! Whipty-freaking-do!
You still believe that crap althought there is O-V-E-R-W-H-E-L-M-I-N-G evidence in the real world that Saddam had nothing to do with AlQaeda or 9-11. In fact, it is OFFICIALLY recognized that Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11 or AlQaeda.
But go ahead hon and keep drinking the KoolAid and ask yourself why you are out of step with the vast majority of Americans.
By BuyDanish'sJohn
June 7, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish, today is payday baby! See ya soon. Got that big ol “all day sucker” as you call it all ready for ya girlfriend. But please Buy Danish. Can get me to the head of that line of day laborers that you always have in front of your single wide?
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
stevie,
My comment to LuckoDull made a point about Al Gore, from a statement that the Goreacle made which LuckoDull was kind enough to quote for us.
You have yet to make a point about anything.
I will add this comment to make an further point about the Left’s favorite Moonbat:
If George Bush used the religious imagery that the Goreacle uses to descibe his evangelical global warming crusade you Libs would be demanding that he keep his religious views out of his politics.
Where’s the outrage Stevie?
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
I’m still waiting for stevie to actually dispute a specific point.
How about disputing this, stevie? I’ve just arbitrarily chosen one revelation.
Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri is “the former vice chairman of Saddam’s Baathist Revolutionary Command Council who swore fealty to Zarqawi and provided funding for al-Qaida and significant element of the Baathist/al-Qaida converts and collaborators.
How did they meet if they hadn’t worked together and had no connections?
By NoMasFaux
June 7, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
The Republican party is dead. Killed by the Lucko Dulls, Buy Danishs, Dustys, RWs, et all. Great job guys. When a party allows it’s garbage can to overflow, it always equates to lost elections. I want to personally thank the above mentioned white trash for a job well done.
By In other words
June 7, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
We neo-cons, who pretend to be conservatives, post biased ultra right-wing misinformation and inane links to propaganda and junk science websites. We then liberally add diatribes, ad hominem attacks and red herrings by the boatload.
As bloviaters, we attack anything we deem not conservative enough and personally don’t provide one bit of useful information.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
Dispute this.
{{{While the Bush administration contended there was evidence of a Saddam Hussein/al-Qaida connection before the war, those assertions have come under heavy criticism, especially from Democrats who contend they and others were deceived about the presence of weapons of mass destruction. However, as WND reported last year, pre-war documents posted online by the Pentagon included a letter from a member of Saddam’s intelligence apparatus indicating al-Qaida and the Taliban had a relationship with the regime prior to the 9/11 attacks.}}}(http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56020)
A letter by the member of Saddam’s Al Mukabarat to a superior, dated Sept. 15, 2001, reported a pre-9/11 conversation between an Iraqi intelligence source and a Taliban Afghani consul.//The information had been released on the orders of National Intelligence Director John Negroponte, and the letter was reviewed by an independent Middle East analyst who concluded it appeared genuine.//The letter indicated bin Laden and the Taliban in Afghanistan were in contact with Iraq – noting a specific visit to Baghdad – and said the U.S. had proof Saddam’s regime and al-Qaida were cooperating to hit a target in the U.S.//The documents also suggested the possibility the U.S. could strike Iraq and Afghanistan if an attack on the U.S. proved to be tied to bin Laden and the Taliban.)
By Paul
June 7, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
steve-o 9:30
So what are we to make of the Clinton Administration taking, on several occasions, unilateral military action against Iraq? No UN authorization there. There was obviously no connection to 9-11 but there was a concern about the potential for handoffs of agents Iraq was believed to have possessed (note: degraded capability after Desert Fox does not mean elimination).
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
I guess Cynthia Tucker is going to post all day:
{{{By BuyDanish’sJohn June 7, 2007 9:31 AM Buy Danish, today is payday baby! See ya soon. Got that big ol “all day sucker” as you call it all ready for ya girlfriend. But please Buy Danish. Can get me to the head of that line of day laborers that you always have in front of your single wide?}}}
Gee, that’s real clever Cynthia Tucker.
But, um, I seriously doubt if you even know Buy Danish, Cynthia Tucker.
Why are you talking about her like that on a political blog Cynthia Tucker?
Is she kicking your butt Cynthia Tucker?
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By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
This is great stuff!
Dispute this Stevie. Or is it only fairy tales like Global Warming that you believe in?
Documents from the Hussein’s Iraqi Intelligence about Al Qaeda in Iraq prior to 9/11.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Here is al-Douri in his own words. While he praises the religious convictions of Zarqawi, he also renounces the goal of Islamists to transform Iraq into a theocracy. He believes that it is God’s will to defeat the invading American and British forces. Just like W believes that it was God’s will to “confront evil”. Not exactly a case for war.
You also forget the fact that Zarqawi wasn’t a part of Al Qaeda until well after the invasion.
Paul,
But anyone with any knowledge about MidEast affairs knows that Saddam was an unabashed secularist who did not approve of theocracies. Hell, the man liked whisky, cigars, and women…not exactly the model for an Al Qaeda type.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
In Other Words=Blah Blah Blah
I just posted actual documents, which I put in the “useful information” category.
Dispute them or STFU!
P.S. I’m going to make a wild guess that despite your complaints about conservatives, you don’t dispute the Building 7 conspiracies peddled by Rosie O’DonnellDhimmi.
Prove me wrong! I’d love to hear a moonbat toss Rosie.
By Lord Help Us
June 7, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Sorry BD, you lose:
“the report of the (9/11) commission’s staff, based on its access to all relevant classified information, said that there had been contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda but no cooperation. In yesterday’s hearing of the panel, formally known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, a senior FBI official and a senior CIA analyst concurred with the finding.”
Propadanda websites don’t stack up to credible, bi-partisan sources. (except in the non-reality based community).
Game over.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Here you go.. The freaking 9/11 Commission and the Feds themselves said that THERE WAS NO LINK BETWEEN SADDAM AND AL QAEDA!!!!
Keep on convincing yourself of the opposite of what everybody knows as fact here in the real world.
By RW-(the original)
June 7, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
So to discuss terrorist attacks or to give them any significance is just right wing fear mongering eh?
Is that why the moonbat(ic)® party insisted on the 9/11 commission show trials over the objections of President Bush?
Is that why you hectored him incessantly for not stopping those attacks?
Are you seriously saying he just ignore any terror threat and if somewhere we get attacked you will just give him a pass since it’s no big deal anyway?
Is the Democrat Party nominee going to use Don’t Worry, Be Happy as their campaign theme next year?
Oh and could steve-0 become any more illiterate? I’ve never seen regression like that outside of finch.
ATTENTION MOONBATS: Stop reading here.
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Later!
By Paul
June 7, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish
Point of note: even separating Hussein’s Iraq from the events of 9-11 or less than strong connections with Al Qaeda, there were still valid reasons for war (interesting how some portray some actions as war, others as humanitarian interventions. English is a wonderful language). In fact, many of the articles , books and assessments before the war made no mention of 9-11 or Al Qaeda.
But I must give credit to Democrats for distancing themselves from their statements and stance before the invasion and flipping all responsibility on Pres Bush. It was effectively done. However, the difficulty for them now with getting into more nuanced discussions (unless you’re Edwards) of disengagement and how that plays with the Democratic antiwar activists (witness Hillary). When your fans are used to hearing absolute statements and sound bites, it’s difficult to switch gears to something more substantive.
By In other words
June 7, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
As a neo-con I very much believe in fairy tales! Like the righteousness of the Iraq occupation and Adam and Eve!
I don’t believe that the earth is round, that it is not at the center of the universe or that mankind’s shortsightedness, stupidity and greed can have ANY adverse effects upon this planet.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
It’s almost comical how Giuliani keeps trying to present himself as a national security expert. Let’s not forget: this is the guy who strongly backed the scandal-plagued Bernie Kerik to be in charge of Homeland Security. Is that the kind of appointment we can expect from President Giuliani (even saying the words makes me feel less safe)? Michael Bloomberg, Giuliani’s replacement as mayor of New York, took a rightly dismissive approach to the JFK plot hype: “You can’t sit there and worry about everything. Get a life. You have a much greater danger of being hit by lightning than being struck by a terrorist.”
By Tom
June 7, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
Who is this LuckoDull and why isn’t he/she in an institution?
By Truthman
June 7, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
Ha, Ha!! Great ‘toon, Mike.
Keep driving the flat-earther’s crazy!!
By In other words
June 7, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this
I just post ultra right-wing bull hockey, which I put in the “useful information” category.
Should I just STFU?!
P.S. I’m going to go wild and despite my incessant complaints about anything and everything non neo-con, I won’t dispute that I look very much like Rosie O’DonnellDhimmi.
Prove me wrong!
By Paul
June 7, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
steve-o 9:55
Just saw your post. I don’t understand how it relates to my comment at 9:41 about military action against Saddam pre-9/11.
Most autocrats - religious or not, are not keen on sharing power. And Islamists will cooperate with those to whom they are averse - cooperation with Nazis in WWII is an example.
I don’t see what that has to do with concerns expressed by the Clinton Administration - strong enough to cause military intervention - and continued by the Bush Administration over the danger he presented, which concerns were amplified post-9/11. I tend to look at events that cross administrations as chapters in a book - not as separate books on different chapters.
Note: whether the assumptions were accurate or not, the events which occurred in concert with the assumptions gave more weight to the assumptions. The recent new revelations regarding the beginning of the Six-Day war show this.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
RW,
Great point about stevie and finch. Same talking points too.
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{{{By steve-o
June 7, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Here is al-Douri in his own words. While he praises the religious convictions of Zarqawi, he also renounces the goal of Islamists to transform Iraq into a theocracy.}}}
Stevie,
That’s really convincing stuff/SARC. Kinda like Midori quoting the daughter of an alleged JFK terrorist as “word”.
How do you explain this alliance (and fued) which is going on as we “speak”?:
{{{Insurgents report a split with Al Qaeda in Iraq - March 27 2007}}}
The Islamic Army is Iraq’s largest homegrown insurgent group, and is built around a core of officers and soldiers from Saddam Hussein’s elite Republican Guards. Despite its name, it started out in the spring of 2003 as a secular, nationalist resistance; but it quickly began working closely with al-Qaeda, especially in the volatile Anbar province, west of Baghdad. Perhaps because of this association, by late 2005 the Islamic Army had morphed into a religious organization. Its fighters now style themselves as religious warriors, and its propaganda is laced with Koranic verses.
By getalife
June 7, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Best idea the gop ever had.
Great toon Mike.
By Can't Resist
June 7, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
A guy walks in and asks the bartender, “Isn’t that Bush and Powell sitting over there?” The bartender says, “Yep, that’s them.” So the guy walks over and says, “Wow, this is a real honor. What are you guys doing in here?” Bush says, “We’re planning WWIII.” And the guy says, “Really? What’s going to happen?” Bush says, “Well, we’re going to kill 140 million Iraqis this time and one blonde with big t**.” The guy exclaimed, “A blonde with big t**? Why kill a blonde with big t**?” Bush turns to Powell, punches him on the shoulder and says, “See, smartass! I told you no one would worry about the 140 million Iraqis!”
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Sunnis are turning towards elements of AlQaeda for support and resources becaues they feel marginalized in a now-Shia controlled state, especially since some Shia police have been cooperating with Shia deathsquads.
Paul,
It has been overwhelmingly proven that there was no basis for the Iraq War and that the general public believes that it was a mistake. There was cause for concern, but there was no cause for an all-out invasion for the purpose of regime change, followed by an attempt at nation-building.
RW,
YAAAAAAAWN!
By reebok
June 7, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
Hilarious cartoon, ML, topical on 2 levels. Very clever. We’re all better off with the little election-stealing alcoholic out of the country.
By Midori
June 7, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
{{{{{{{Kinda like Midori quoting the daughter of an alleged JFK terrorist as “word}}}}}}}}
why not?
you quote every loser and loon in the wingnut community as “fact”
only a complete moron would give credibility to the highly uncredible, which you wingnuts do on a constant basis.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I don’t think that Islamists cooperated with the Nazis. But seriously, if they did support Islamists, prove me wrong.
I know that the Nazis supported some Arab factions. After WWII, the popular sentiment among Arabs was with Nasser, who promoted Arabic nationalism, but was far from an Islamic fundamentalist. Islamists never really made their presence felt until the assasination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. Afterwards, the movement grew exponentially with the mujahadeen’s efforts against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Fast forward to the 1990s, Saddam knew damn well not to cooperate with AlQaeda. Remember that bin Laden was extremely upset at the Saudis for turning to Americans instead of his mujahadeen for the liberation of Kuwait. OBL saw Saddam as an infidel and felt that it was God’s will that he protect the holy land from his tyranny.
By @@
June 7, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Well ml, Bush has been busy at the G-8 Summit. He’s been helping the Europeans see through the smoke screen of global warming and carbon caps.
Europe’s global warming initiatives have been corked!
By Midori
June 7, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Great toon, Mike.
Especially funny after the GOP debate.
Bush will soon have to bribe people to take pictures with him.
By Paul
June 7, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
steve-o
Actually, there were a few. They’d take a lot more time than I have (I was about to turn this monitor off as things had slowed down - and return this evening) - but for those who want legalistic justifications can point to the language of the UN; those who don’t believe the UN is effective can point to that, the prior Administration’s statements regarding the danger of Saddam, amplified greatly by the events of 9/11 (does he have them? where are they? UN says no - but they’ve been shut out - what if, what if, what if he gives them to this maniac?); those of a geopolitical persuasion will cite a humanitarian mission (overthrow a dictator, stop the genocide) and the establishment of a “democracy” in the midst of the theocracies and autocracies as a valid path for the other “we need to change but don’t know how” ME govt’s who were facing their own internal threats from one of scores of jihadist groups (of which Al Qeda was only one).
So yeah, many people can cite valid (to them) reasons. Y’know, a good side lesson from all this is, just because people look kinda like us, dress kinda like us, use computers and drink Coca Cola does not mean they think like us or have the same hopes and moral standards as us. Or that their fundamental outlook has progressed much past the 10th century.
But I really must go - TTY this evening -
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
@@,
That was a funny cartoon, but we gotta start somewhere in regards to limiting greenhouse gases.
By jake
June 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
Luckodull,
You just don’t get it, do you?
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I didn’t believe in the war from the get-go, but if you want proof that it was a mistake, play a little bit of Monday-morning quarterback.
Is Iraq better off now?
Is the Middle East better of now?
Is Iraq and the surrounding region more stable?
Were there any WMDs?
Is Iraq truly safe from tyranny?
Has the standard of living in Iraq improved since the invasion?
Have we been vindicated in the eyes of those leaders who opposed the invasion?
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Crazy Anti War Fringe
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
{{{Most autocrats - religious or not, are not keen on sharing power. And Islamists will cooperate with those to whom they are averse - cooperation with Nazis in WWII is an example.))) Paul,
Good point about their alliance of the religious with the secular but how were the Islamists “averse” to the Nazis?
BTW, I’m not trying to re-argue why we’re in Iraq. I am making a larger point about how one side (ours) provides information while the other side just bloviates.
To whom it may concern:
What credibility does the 9/1l Commission have? Didn’t it take testimony from Sandy Berger? Was it privy to the documents he destroyed?
Further, which came first? The 9/11 Commission or the discovery and translation of documents from Saddam’s Iraqi Intelligence that were seized in Iraq after the 2002 invasion?
And how does this make you feel about the CIA’s findings and competence?:
The Senate’s report declassifies a July 2002 Defense Intelligence Agency study of Ansar al-Islam as a possible link between Saddam’s Iraq and Al Qaeda that concludes that, even if it can be proven, as Mr. Salih at the time alleged, that the Baathist regime supported the group, “it will not necessarily implicate the regime in supporting Al Qaeda.” —————->The DIA concludes that Ansar al-Islam “receives assistance” from Al Qaeda but is not a branch of the terrorist organization.<—————————-
So what? We’re not talking about a formal military organization here. How do you define “branch”?
This is just a ludicrous analysis.
By Paul
June 7, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
steve-o 10:49
Saw your comment as I posted last - real quick, plenty of evidence House of Saud did a Faustian deal with bin Laden - paid off - keep your actions outside Saudi Arabia and we’ll leave you alone (protect the monarchy). bin Laden’s view goes way past America in Middle East (we left Saudi Arabia and the war continues) - but that’s another discussion.
Can’t vouch for this web site re: the Nazi connection but most of the points are accurate. Scroll about halfway down, point was cooperation with Nazis against British occupiers.
Link: Islamic cooperation with ideological enemies
You may also want to read this for a current persepective -
Link: Government leaders fail in war of ideas
But now I really must go - Cheers -
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Yes I raked LuckoDork’s arse over the coals earlier, but most of my posts this morining have presented nothing but facts. You just choose to ignore them and remain oblivious through your wingnut sites.
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Bush’s Surgeon General Nominee: “Boys and girls have different pipe fittings”
Oh great! Bush is going to nominate someone with a mindset right out of the 1800’s.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I see your point and I was aware of collaboration between the Nazis and Arab groups, but you are confusing Arab nationalism with Islamic fundamentalism.
They are two vastly different things. In fact some of the founders of the pro-Arab Syrian Baathist movement were Christians.
By Can't Resist
June 7, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Sandy Berger’s socks were SOOOOO big he stuffed enough documentation into them to completely negate the 9/11 commission report.
Thank God, they didn’t ask Paul Wolfowitz to steal documents in his socks….’member they both had big holes in the toes!
From here on in I’m going to believe everything Braniac Danish says.
Bo Danish knows socks.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Stevie,
Try reading this again instead of bloviating about the Shia.
The Islamic Army is Iraq’s largest homegrown insurgent group, and is built around a core of officers and soldiers from Saddam Hussein’s elite Republican Guards. Despite its name, it started out in the spring of 2003 as a secular, nationalist resistance; but it quickly began working closely with al-Qaeda, especially in the volatile Anbar province, west of Baghdad. Perhaps because of this association, by late 2005 the Islamic Army had morphed into a religious organization. Its fighters now style themselves as religious warriors, and its propaganda is laced with Koranic verses.
Note the dates, and note the alliance between the “secular” and the “religious” and the willingness of the “secular” to use the “religious” for it’s purposes.
In other words your theory (and finch’s coincidentally) that the “secular” Hussein would have nothing to do with the “religious” Bin Laden is blown out of the swamp water.
C U L 8 R
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I don’t think that we’ve fully left Saudi Arabia. I am aware of the arrangements between the House of Saud and OBL, but he was still outraged that they chose the Americans over his mujahadeen to protect that peninsula from Saddam.
By Can't Resist
June 7, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Bo Danish sure knows her shia from shinola.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
{{{The Islamic Army is Iraq’s largest homegrown insurgent group, and is built around a core of officers and soldiers from Saddam Hussein’s elite Republican Guards. Despite its name, it started out in the spring of 2003 as a secular, nationalist resistance; but it quickly began working closely with al-Qaeda, especially in the volatile Anbar province, west of Baghdad. Perhaps because of this association, by late 2005 the Islamic Army had morphed into a religious organization. Its fighters now style themselves as religious warriors, and its propaganda is laced with Koranic verses.
Even so, the Islamic Army never adopted al-Qaeda’s extremist views. The Iraqi group refused to sign on to al-Qaeda’s so-called “Islamic State,” and it openly criticized foreign jihadis for their campaign of bombings against civilian targets. Also, the Islamic Army sees itself as the natural leader of the fight against the U.S., and resented al-Qaeda’s attempt to dictate the agenda. In some areas, fighters from the two sides disagreed on chain-of-command issues, and on the distribution of resources. The recent fighting in Baghdad may have been an escalation of long-simmering conflicts over turf.}}}
Buy Danish,
The Islamic Army started out as a secular nationalist group. They forged ties with Al Qaeda because of the Sunni connection and also because they were no longer in control of the Iraqi government.
Also, many Sunnis are living in fear of Shia death squads and militias. It shouldn’t be surprising that they turn towards any group that will help in protecting them.
As always, your argument blew nothing but hot stanky air.
By DebbieDoRight
June 7, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
Dull: Where do you pull these statistics and articles from (since you NEVER give a link); do you pull them out of your ear? Or does the little green man who sits next to you on the psych ward tells you what to say?
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
{{{{By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Yes I raked LuckoDork’s arse over the coals earlier, but most of my posts this morining (sic) have presented nothing but facts. }}}
Bwahahahahahahaha.
Your little sandbox fantasy about LuckoDull is just that - a fantasy of an imaginary victory.
Stevie, do you know what a “fact” is? You made ad hominem attacks and posted unsubstantiated opinions without any basis in fact.
You have posted exactly ONE item that is backed up and that is Al Douri’s own words.
You are obviously completely clueless about shifting alliances and marriages of convenience - something that has occurred throughout human history.
The American Left is allied with the Islamists as we speak - not formally - but through their political-correctness, dedication to “multi-culturalism” and their “white guilt” they provide opportunity for the Islamists to gain a foothold in this country and to destroy our uniquely American institutions.
Gone fishing…
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Skanky Stevie,
Oh, I get it! They overlooked their differences later but didn’t in the beginning, even though they were both trying to defeat the United States and other “zionist enemies”.
Horsefeathers!
I wish I were a snake oil salesman. I could make a killing off of you!
BYE FOR REAL!
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
Breaking a 211-year media silence, retired Army Gen. George Washington appeared on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday to speak out against many aspects of the way the Iraq war has been waged.
Washington, whose appearance marked the first time the military leader and statesman had spoken publicly since his 1796 farewell address in Philadelphia, is the latest in a string of retired generals stepping forward to criticize the Iraq war. …
“I can say from personal experience that even a malnourished force with feet clad in rags should not be underestimated, even by a far superior power,” added Washington, who has disavowed further comparison between the Iraqi insurgency and the American colonists. …
“We’re very happy that someone of General Washington’s stature is speaking out,” said Jon Soltz, cofounder and chairman of VoteVets.org. “He has impeccable conservative credentials, extensive foreign policy experience, is a true citizen-soldier with a proven commitment to his country, and, if that’s not enough to get Bush to listen, he’s the face on the dollar bill.” …
Conservative pundits moved quickly to discredit the decorated general.
“I don’t care who you are—or if you cannot tell a lie—it’s un-American to question the president in a time of war,” Sean Hannity said on his radio program Monday. “Plus, I find it very interesting that a man who owned slaves and sold hemp thinks he’s entitled to give our Commander in Chief lessons on how to run a war.”
—-The Onion
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
“They put me on notice to preserve some records,” Stevens said in a brief interview about his legal team’s discussions with the FBI. He declined to say what kinds of records were involved but confirmed that he had hired lawyers and that his son, former state Senate president Ben Stevens, “is also under investigation.” -Ted Stevens
Sure our side has William Jefferson but why do the Republicans always have to out do us?
By @@
June 7, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
steve-o @ 10:54:
(((we have to start somewhere.)))
Certainly we do, but we have to approach it from the standpoint of the
Sum total is greater than “the hole”.
I have no doubt that Republicans/Bush will deal with this concern; not simply because of the environmental impact, but because of the need for ME oil is a threat to national security. THAT will always take priority with George Bush and Republicans.
BTW….
(((At a Brazilian ethanol conference June 4-5, Brazilian government-funded researchers said they have perfected a method of producing cellulosic ethanol that drastically reduces the cost of processing. At this point, the assertion — and many other similarly optimistic claims made at the conference — is unconfirmed. But should it prove true, the world could well be peeking over the horizon at a massive geopolitical, not to mention economic, shift.)))
(((They claim the process they have perfected reduces cellulosic ethanol production costs down to the realm of 10 cents to 15 cents per liter (35 cents to 50 cents per gallon). Furthermore, though the biochemical processes for ethanol production vary based on feedstock, they are not fundamentally different. Sugarcane is the easiest crop to turn into ethanol, but corn is only slightly more difficult, so a sugar ethanol breakthrough would be only a few steps ahead of other breakthroughs — such as making cellulosic ethanol from nonfood crops like switchgrass — that would democratize the technology globally.)))
(((Discussion of all things ethanol has been all the rage in U.S. policy circles ever since oil prices rose above $50 a barrel. And why not? Ethanol already is commonly fabricated in Brazil and the United States — which account for 35 percent and 37 percent of global production, respectively — from agricultural products. The stuff is made and consumed domestically, bolsters a politically powerful lobby and reduces U.S. exposure to — and dependence on — Middle Eastern energy supplies.)))
(((Those likely to suffer less-than-catastrophically would be the countries that could cash in on ethanol via their large agricultural sectors (Argentina and Mexico), or that are buttressed by hefty natural gas exports (Norway, Qatar and Nigeria). But states that are hooked on oil as a single source of income — Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela and Azerbaijan come to mind ̵
By @@
June 7, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Whoops! Cont’d —
(((Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela and Azerbaijan come to mind — would encounter massive problems.)))
(((Cheap ethanol — meaning cheap enough to compete favorably with gasoline in a side-by-side comparison — is one of those world-changing technologies that comes only once in a generation.)))
Outta here!
By MichaelChertoff
June 7, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
ORANGE ALERT! ORANGE ALERT! There has been a concrete link established between Buy Danish, Lucko Dull, and the nefarious Talibaptist terrorist group. Expect a massive assault on reason at any moment.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I posted other articles from neutral sources. You, on the other hand, have opted to post links to wingnut sites. You know, sites that have an agenda/opinion.
The rest of what I post is what I KNOW, not what I learned from doing a quick Google search.
You have a hard time distinguishing between fact and opinion. But then again, where would the GOP be without thoughtless lemmings like you.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
{{{By DebbieDullRight June 7, 2007 11:24 AM Dull: Where do you pull these statistics and articles from (since you NEVER give a link); do you pull them out of your ear? Or does the little green man who sits next to you on the psych ward tells you what to say?}}}
Well actually, Debs, there is this thing called the internet, usually you can cut a few words from my posts, paste them into the google search box and Viola!, behold the secrets to why Andy is so much smarter than y’all.
This does answer a lot of questions.
By the way, I thought you libs didn’t read my comments?
Geez.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Look at this nonsense:
{{{A cease-fire agreement between Iraq’s leading Sunni insurgent group and al-Qaeda is bad news for the U.S. military, which has been trying hard to drive a wedge between them. A statement by the Islamic Army that appeared on a jihadist website Wednesday says “an agreement has been reached [with] al-Qaeda in Iraq, leading to an immediate cessation of all military operations between the two sides.” The statement added that the two groups would form a “judicial committee” to address their differences.}}}
1) If Al Qaeda stops killing innocent Sunnis, we win.
2) If Al Qaeda and the Sunni insurgents would like to team up against us, name the time and place. Bring some of your Iranian friends.
3) What about all of the Sunni warlords who have openly pledged to help the US and fight Al Qaeda and are actively do just that in Anbar and Diyala?
4) Is time Ragazine trying to effect public opinion with false Al Qaeda proaganda?
{{{It may be several days before statement is authenticated, but it appears to confirm what some Islamic Army field commanders have conveyed to TIME this week.}}}
Direct communications with the enemy?
What is there to confirm?
Are they or aren’t they?
POS.
Cowards.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
{{{A statement by the Islamic Army that appeared on a jihadist website Wednesday says “an agreement has been reached [with] al-Qaeda in Iraq, leading to an immediate cessation of all military operations between the two sides.”}}}
So I can post on the United States defense department website that we have beaten the Islamic fascists, the war is over and everyone should go home, and time will print a front page heavy breathing article “confirming” it for me?
This time magazine is something else, they need some serious attitude adjustment, slobbering anti American mofo’s.
We need to put them on the road.
Like we did Bush’s immigration bill.
Bye, bye.
POS.
Cowards.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By ComeToPapaCons
June 7, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Dauuuum!!! According to the latest AP poll, only 21% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction. I guess based on this poll htat one can draw the conclusion that only the dumbest of the dumb still hang on to their maniac belief in GWB.
By Can't Resist
June 7, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
So maybe the detention center can’t handle binging and purging?
Why else is Paris sent home???
By getalife
June 7, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Wow, I am shocked.
The Dems voted no to cloture on the immigration bill.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
Well, well, well. Looks like Miss Goodling-Two-Shoes isn’t such an innocent after all
{{{{Just how long does the RNC think that they can withhold evidence from the Congress on these backdoor channel e-mails now? }}}}
IN THE NEWS - THE SOURCE WHERE YOU DON”T HAVE TO GOOGLE SOME BS TO GET TO THE SOURCE - MAKING IT EASIER FOR PROGRESSIVES TO GET INFO - OCCASIONALLY PUSHING A REBUPLOFACIST OVER THE EDGE
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
3503
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Just breezing through on my way to the pool…
{{{By steve-o
June 7, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I posted other articles from neutral sources. You, on the other hand, have opted to post links to wingnut sites. You know, sites that have an agenda/opinion. }}}
StevieDhimmi,
I posted links to the ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS that were found in Iraq. It says something that only what you call “wingnut sites” chose to reveal these documents.
I also posted a link to Time Magazine which is hardly a “wingnut site”.
You’ll have to let me know what “neutral sources” you refer to. Isn’t that a matter of opinion… again?
There are very, very few “neutral sources” but original documents are original documents.
I’m off to have a swimmingly perfect afternoon….
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Oh darn. I forgot to post this gem. The pool will have to wait another minute -
Adoption Group: Cat Invasion Due to Global Warming
Hey! I have an idea this group should love! How about performing abortions on these cats? Maybe a coalition of Planned Parenthood and PETA could pay for this service.
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Well, if you’re so right, then why don’t you do work for the president and the NSA in order to boost his popularity since it’s currently in the gutter. You have the facts, so spread the news.
By BuyDanish'sBlackLover
June 7, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
I’ve seen Buy Danish naked. She’ll clear that pool in 30 seconds flat. That woman is coyote ugly folks.
By BuyDanish'sBlackLover
June 7, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
steve-o, the only thing Buy Dnish is capable of spreading are her legs and peanut butter. You give her too much credit.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Who Will Be the Last Bush Loyalist? Whoever you are, don’t forget to kill the lights.
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
The U.S. military death toll in Iraq has reached passed 3,500. The Department of Defense has confirmed the deaths of 3,492 troops. Eleven more have been reported but are as yet unconfirmed.
As of 8:00 PM Eastern time there have been 3,503 military deaths in Iraq.
Information obtained by Iraq Coalition Casualties
Any of you Funny morons® care to describe what we gained by losing over 3,500 of our nation’s finest?
I dare say the return doesn’t nearly match the cost.
If your moronic president gets his way we’ll be there another 50 years.
Let’s see. We’ve lost 3,500 in 4 years so in 50 years we will have probably lost 43,750 troops. For what?
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
As for Turkey invading Iraq…
By Fred Phelps
June 7, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
Thank you so much for your continued support. Without the help of God-fearing men like you, we would not be winning God’s war against the fruit cakes and liberal scum pinkos.
You are to be commended for your tireless efforts to spread God’s message that SODOMY IS AN ABOMINABLE SIN, WORTHY OF DEATH and THERE IS A HELL WHERE ALL IMPENITENT SINNERS WILL RESIDE FOR ALL ETERNITY. THAT INCLUDES SODOMITES (CALLED “DOGS”).
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
By @@
June 7, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Just stopping in for a glass of ice water and a news refresher.
With all the sabre rattling Putin has been doing, this is the last thing I would have anticipated…
G8 SUMMIT Bush calls Putin US-Russian base proposal ‘interesting’
(((HEILIGENDAMM, Germany (Thomson Financial) - US President George Bush found a proposal by Russian President Vladimir Putin to create a joint US-Russian anti-missile radar base in Azerbaijan ‘interesting,’ his national security advisor Stephen Hadley said.)))
(((‘Let’s put these options on the table and get some experts to take a look at it,’ Bush said, according to Hadley.)))
(((A Russian official, speaking in a conference call, said it was too early for the US to give a substantial response to the proposal.)))
(((‘This is a new initiative for the US side and we would not expect any response yet … the US will need time to examine all this,’ said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.)))
(((The proposal would enable Russia to abandon any plans to deploy a defensive shield on its western borders with Europe in response to the US plans in eastern Europe.)))
(((‘It would lead to a potential easing of tensions,’ he said.)))
(((The talks were ‘very constructive and non-confrontational’, he added.)))
This should be an interesting story to follow.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm….
By Can't Resist
June 7, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
A little something for Paris Hilton)
By Can't Resist
June 7, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
It was a link to FORCE FEEDING.
By The GOP has lost its mojo
June 7, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
It is truly humbling and most surprising that as an ambassador, I could never hold a candle to that paragon of American statesmen - George W. Bush.
His uncanny ability to amass worldwide support for American goals and pursuits is truly stunning. Our allies and friends overseas have never enjoyed such respect and cooperation and have never felt more aligned with us.
I salute you Mr. President! Keep up the great work!
Yours truly,
Benjamin Franklin
By The GOP has lost its mojo
June 7, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
Mr LuckoDull,
I know that you are a long time supporter of one of my more famous constituents and a fellow Jayhawker, the Rev. Fred Phelps.
It is with the support of men like you and him that we can take back our country from these Godless heathens and evolutionists.
I know that you would agree that there is simply no place for science, reason or moderation in our republic. Especially in our public schools!
I would like to count on your support for my campaign to improve this great nation by turning it into a theocracy! Together we can eliminate the atheists and liberal pinko scum.
Respectfully yours,
Sen. S. Brownback
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
Will Fiendish Giuliani Be Bush III? Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com He’s cashing in on 9/11, working with Karl Rove’s henchmen and in cahoots with a Swift Boat-style attack on Hillary. By all accounts, he’s a perfect choice to uphold the legacy of George W. Bush.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Bush To The Future
By SomeNYGuy
June 7, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
No doubt Buy Danish’s pool is filled with delicious GOP Kool-Aid! Merely drinking it is no longer enough to keep reality at bay.
By Fox News
June 7, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
We interrupt our Paris Hilton coverage to bring you this breaking news.
A Mr. Whiney Q. LuckoDull of Georgia has been identified as testing smear-positive. He is highly contagious and is to be avoided.
Symptoms include delusions of grandeur, Tourette’s Syndrome and an irrational belief in the integrity of George W. Bush.
If you see this person, DO NOT approach him! He is known to be a carrier of numerous other diseases and has a history of mental disorders going back to his days as a marksman in the Russian military.
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
More Republican dirty tricks
It’s the ONLY way they can EVER win folks!
By Goldie
June 7, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
I found it very interesting during the Repugs’ debate Tuesday night that ALL of the candidates were putting forth their ideas on how Americans could work to SOLVE THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROBLEM… and we still have the retards here, like LickaDull, posting their copied-n-pasted nonsense from the BIG OIL blogs that always state that it’s all an Al Gore-Chicken Little conspiracy.
Must’ve just burned you trolls up to hear those ideas for problem-solving coming from YOUR OWN PARTY during the debate… oh, that’s right — Jim Inhofe is not running for prez. Boy, wouldn’t having that ole geezer running really make the debates even funnier that they already are!
By Funny morons®
June 7, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
Goldie - You’re mistaking our Funny morons® for Republicans. They are, in reality, Bushbots. When he leaves office they will be without a party with which they can identify.
By Truthman
June 7, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
Why does The Chimperor hate science so much.
Look at the boob he’s trying to foist on us for Surgeon General:
What a total idiot believing his chuch can “cure homosexuality.” And yet, his entire 1991 paper seems to extol the virtues of the male rectum (another self-loathing closet homo a la Jeff Gannon, Ken Mehlman and Dennis Hastert?)
Once again, the Chimperor chooses ideology over the needs of the nation.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/BushSurgeonGen.pickcriticisedfor0607.html
Stupid is as stupid does!!
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
It’s a well-worn talking point for George W. Bush’s supporters to say there was no underlying crime beneath former White House aide I. Lewis Libby’s conviction for obstructing justice, a debatable point itself. But the evidence is clear there was a larger cover-up conspiracy - and it could still unravel.
{{{That means if U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton orders Libby to start his jail term in July while his appeals proceed – as it now appears the judge will – Bush will be faced with the prospect of Libby serving more than half his sentence before November 2008 and a risk that Libby finally might cooperate with special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.}}}
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
The Passion of Al Gore
{{{I find myself speculating on what might have been if the man who got the most votes in 2000 had actually become president……..The war in Iraq would never have occurred. Support and respect for the U.S. around the globe would not have plummeted to levels that are both embarrassing and dangerous. The surpluses of the Clinton years would not have been squandered like casino chips in the hands of a compulsive gambler on a monumental losing streak.}}}}
By steve-o
June 7, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
I find it amazing, and oddly entertaining, that the resident wingnuts here have the audacity to call us extremists while they, according to actual statistics, are on the fringe and way out of touch with most Americans. It’s like being called “crzay” by a crazy person!
I mean, Buy Danish, still believes that there is a link between Saddam and AlQaeda, as well as links between Saddam and 9/11! How the hell can that be possible when that has been refuted and disproven many times over? And when it comes to global warming, forget about it!
They live in a different reality.
By mm
June 7, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
The wingnuts need to go back to the lab and have their bolts tightened.
By The GOP has lost its mojo
June 7, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
Dammit people! I’ve told you before that for us neo-cons, science, like history, English, mathematics, the humanities, physical education, philosophy, logic and civics is not our strong point!
By Mrs. Godzilla
June 7, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Remember when your kids were teens and thought they knew everything? It’s the same issue here.
Sadly, most of the last 21%, will never emerge from their permanent adolescence.
By IN THE NEWS
June 7, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
FOR A BRIEF PERIOD, THE WING NUTS RETREATED TO THEIR DENS AND THERE WAS PEACE ON THE BLOG.
DELICIOUS ISN”T IT?
By Buy Danish a new brain
June 7, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
How dare you impugn the scientific evidence provided by BD? Outrageous that in spite of all her rigorous research and innumerable credentials, you Islamofascist lovers and useful idiots would rely upon the scant scientific evidence provide by thousands of real scientists around the globe.
Freaking losers.
By Apocalypse
June 7, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
steve-o,
People like Buy Danish have difficulty admitting they were wrong about something. Can you imagine what life must be like for her to have to deal with such a mental conflict day in and day out. Also, she doesn’t appear to have much going on in her life other than these blogs. That’s also the reason she uses other IDs:”@@”, and perhaps “Dusty”.
Buy Danish is one of those rare instances in which liberals must show compassion for conservatives. She needs help.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
{{{By ComeToPapaCons June 7, 2007 12:43 PM Dauuuum!!! According to the latest AP poll, only 21% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction. I guess based on this poll htat one can draw the conclusion that only the dumbest of the dumb still hang on to their maniac belief in GWB.}}}
Does that 21% count the Congressional democrats?:
{{{By getalife June 7, 2007 12:49 PM Wow, I am shocked. The Dems voted no to cloture on the immigration bill.}}}
Yes, the Bushbot liberals have thrown a wrench in the works, albeit a temporary one.
Geez, are these democrats going to stick with him to the bitter end?
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By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Damn, I missed one of Cynthia Tucker’s posts:
{{{By BuyDanish’sBlackLover June 7, 2007 1:18 PM steve-o, the only thing Buy Dnish is capable of spreading are her legs and peanut butter. You give her too much credit.}}}
That was a good one Cynthia Tucker.
It was reaaalll intelligent Cynthia Tucker.
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By the stopper
June 7, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Steve-o writes: I find it amazing, and oddly entertaining, that the resident wingnuts here have the audacity to call us extremists while they, according to actual statistics, are on the fringe and way out of touch with most Americans. It’s like being called “crzay” by a crazy person!
It’s not like being called “crazy” by a crazy person.
You ARE being called “crazy” by crazy people.
Luckodork and Bi-Danish really believe every wingnut article of faith out there: Valerie Plame was insignificant; Saddam had WMD; Saddam was linked to Al-Qaeda; Lower taxes generate more revenue; Operation Git-blowed-up-real-good is a Success…
It’s endless, the lies they believe, and regurgitate. Their capacity to humiliate themselves while servicing this corrupt administration is limitless.
In short, they’re nuts.
By Midori
June 7, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Now you guys have done it — you’ve pushed Andy completely over the edge, as evidenced by that dumb crap @ 4:07 &4:09 he posted.
Or, maybe — just MAYBE, he’s posting in “code”?
By Apocalypse
June 7, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
I see you’ve stop jacking off to G.Bush pictures long enough to make two posts. Congratulations idiot!
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
{{{By Fred Phelps June 7, 2007 1:58 PM LuckoDull, You are to be commended for your tireless efforts to spread God’s message that SODOMY IS AN ABOMINABLE SIN http://www.godhatesfags.com/}}}
Fred: God doesn’t hate sinners, He Loves all men.
He hates the sin, however.
Which “bible” are you reading?
Geez.
Coward.
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By The Watcher
June 7, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Well, it’s official.
He is completely off his rocker.
Is there someone we should notify?
By getalife
June 7, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
I don’t know Andy but that bill might be dead.
They should enforce the bill they have on the books.
They will not and will not enforce the new one.
Lott is right, they can’t do anything and should shut it down to save money.
We should not pay taxes, we are not represented.
Let the States and locals govern and pay those taxes only. That is what it is coming to anyway.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
{{{By the slobber June 7, 2007 4:11 PM Luckodork and Bi-Danish really believe every wingnut article of faith out there: Valerie Plame was insignificant;}}}
Believe me, you could have picked a better example-
Valerie Plame was a weapons of mass destruction analyst, we went to war against Iraq based on her work, hahaha, you slobbering goony.
Thank you for the soon to be peaceful and prosperous Middle East, so yes, Plame really wasn’t “insignificant.”
Coward.
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By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
{{{By getalife June 7, 2007 4:16 PM I don’t know Andy but that bill might be dead. They should enforce the bill they have on the books.}}}
How true.
If you are legal you can work, if not GTF out.
If they need more slaves to exploit, let them increase the quota of legals, hire more DNS people to thoroughly check them out, give them a SS number.
This bill is basically saying we are too stupid to follow through with a few simple steps.
It’s sad.
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By peck
June 7, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
I can only agree with everything in the post just above (“by the stopper, 6/7 at 4:11 PM”). The people who seem to monopolize this blog (like the blogger who begins it each day)represent the fringe, not the growing mainstream of Americans who now understand this war was a horrible, bloody mistake.
By @@
June 7, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
TIME writer, Joe Klein had this to say about left-wing bloggers.
(((But the smart stuff is being drowned out by a fierce, bullying, often witless tone of intolerance that has overtaken the left-wing sector of the blogosphere. Anyone who doesn’t move in “lockstep” with the most extreme voices is savaged and ridiculed—especially people like me who often agree with the liberal position but sometimes disagree and are therefore considered traitorously unreliable.)))
Now of course, he is a writer for TIME so he eventually blames it on the conservative media, Fox News and talk radio.
Now here’s what I find interesting in his accusations against conservatives…….
In case you didn’t get it; he’s saying that WE (Conservatives) have control over the thoughts and emotions of liberals.
You have been in here all afternoon posting comments about conservatives that haven’t been here….well….all afternoon.
For all your years under the guidance of your Democratic Party, you have become trained puppets; little girls & boys….little wooden toys.
ANYBODY can control you liberals because you CAN’T control yourselves.
That Mr. Klein makes a keen observation without even realizing it.
By Midori
June 7, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
LOL
Next @@ will be doing standup.
Thanks for that belly laugh @ 4:42, @@!!!!
Do you do Bar Mitzvahs too?
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
{{{But his conclusion is that she sold out. After her defeat in the first Clinton term, he says, she fell silent on the issue. And “for her silence, Hillary was rewarded. And she has been the second-largest recipient in the Senate of healthcare industry contributions.”}}}
Sellout.
Hehehehe.
Now that’s sicko.
Geez.
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By Midori
June 7, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
a tribute to our most excellent and intelligent president bush
By Fred Phelps
June 7, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
Fred: God doesn’t hate sinners, He Loves all men.
That is a filthy lie and is NEVER mentioned in the Bible. And as a reverend I find it odd that you would dare ask me which Bible I read when it is obvious that you don’t know what you are talking about.
People like you are actually a big part of the problem. You spout this feel good mamby pamby crap instead of actually understanding God’s word.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/writings/20060331_god-loves-everyone-lie.pdf
Son, you better spend a lot more time reading the Bible if you want to have ANY credibility among the righteous.
By Paul
June 7, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
Midori
I seem to recall a couple weeks back you wrote how Democrats, unlike Republicans, did not move in lockstep. I was struck by that phrase - it implied a great tolerance for diversity of opinion.
Now Mr. Klein disputes that idea, not for Democrats, but for what he calls the left-wing sector of the blogosphere. Do you think that’s correct? And will the Democratic Party show itself to be more accommodating of nonmajority opinions, from Sen Lieberman’s to the expressions of religious Democrats, even if that leads some to question current (emphasis on current) attitudes on a woman’s right to choose?
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
US death toll has now reached 3501. The death tally for June is 23.
By Midori
June 7, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
Paul,
you’re like a right wing Mighty Mouse.
Saving the day, eh?
No, Dems do not march in lockstep.
However, we reserve the right to call people on their B.S. — whether it be Joe Klein or Joe Lieberman.
Joe Klein has been trying to find himself for years.
Joe Lieberman has found himself, and I wish he would just go ahead and make it official.
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
So who you gonna believe, the slobbering pinko®:
{{{By Fred Phelps June 7, 2007 5:01 PM Fred: God doesn’t hate sinners, He Loves all men. That is a filthy lie and is NEVER mentioned in the Bible.}}}
Or God:
“Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? (Rom.2:4)”
God gave his only Son so that you may live, that goes for even this dumb as-s liberal parading around a political blog trying to smear religion with his stupid goony mumbo-jumbo.
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By Paul
June 7, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
Midori
Do you always begin with a personal hit? Another one of those “how to climb the corporate ladder” tactics? Must make for some great team exercises -
I recall several other blogs - the outrage against Sen Lieberman was intense. When I questioned one person from his state if the hyperbole was widespread or restricted to the far Left of the Party he assurred me it was widespread and he’d laugh at my (poll-based) disagreement. Funny, he never came back on the blog after the general election.
So other than Iraq, I don’t know what “BS” you’re referring to.
My impression is many Dems have as extreme litmus tests for “true Democrats” as Reps have for “real Republicans.” Which is why I think candidates like Obama resonate so well with so many.
Asking you questions to back up your prejudices gets tiring - but one more time: care to discuss the state of primary and secondary education in America? I think you may be a tad bit of a conservative -
By @@
June 7, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
O.K. Midori, I’ll try to be a little kinder than Mr. Klein.
From a conservative perspective liberals are “usefully useless”.
Better?
It’s funny how you’re willing to unload Joe Lieberman whose social policies are like 95% liberal.
Me? I’ll take Rudy even with his stance on abortion.
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
Midori: I like your posts. Much of your stuff is really clever. The version of the right-wing we see here takes itself way too seriously and is rarely light hearted and often wrong. For example, can anyone name one significant accomplishment of the far right-wing of the republican party? Ever?
By Paul
June 7, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
@@
Ever done a comparison of the current (and past few deceased or retired) members of the US Supreme Court in reference to Senate confirmation votes, with attention to the then-identified “persuasion” of the nominee and the number of votes to confirm given by members or Parties seen as the ideological opposite?
Hint: care to guess which Party and which Presidential candidate has announced a specific issue litmus test for any nominee? Double hint: it’s the Party that doesn’t march in lockstep.
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Our nation has thrived under the two party system. The problem of the last six years is that the republican party has been hijacked by right-wing fanatics. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Abramoff, Libby, Delay, Cunningham and the crowd are frightening. They have no skill. They have accomplished nothing. They have driven up the debt, divided us, and funneled huge sums of cash to their pals. Name one acomplishment?
By @@
June 7, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
Sure Paul, I’ll take an informed guess?
Rudy Giuliani of the Republican Party.
A strict constitutionalist; that Rudy.
I’ve heard Fred Thompson is as well.
By RNC
June 7, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
Paul, the litmus test crowd are the very ones that have practically killed the Republican party.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-o
June 7, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Well, if you’re so right, then why don’t you do work for the president and the NSA in order to boost his popularity since it’s currently in the gutter. You have the facts, so spread the news.}}}
It’s hard to choose which post is the most dimwitted, but I’ll pick that one ^^^because it at least pretends to be smart.
Stevie,
That is a perfectly idiotic and juvenile response to my reminder that I had linked to original documents, and there is really no such thing as an “objective source”.
Let me see if I can pretend to be a childish Moonbat for a moment and think like you do:
Why don’t you try to become an astronaut so you can observe the Earth’s atmosphere from Outer Space, and then report back to us on where ice caps are growing and receding?
By LuckoDull
June 7, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
{{{By Dhimmi Danny June 7, 2007 5:29 PM For example, can anyone name one significant accomplishment of the far right-wing of the republican party? Ever?}}}
1) Killing Islam terrorists instead of letting them sleep in the White House.
2) Welfare reform.
3) Restoration of our National Security after Clinton gutted it.
4) Protecting our right to keep and bear arms.
5) Building more jails and putting more police on the beat, taking back our streets.
6) Tax cuts. Say what ever goony propaganda you will, look outside at all the brand new cars and the brand new houses, gas is 3.50 a gallon, everyone is riding around. Even the libs are building brand new housing projects.
7) What ever puny immigration enforcement is getting done, it damn sure didn’t come from no pinko®.
Hey! This^^ sounds like a Fred Thompson laundry list.
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By JC
June 7, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
John McCain is the only Republican that can win the general election in 08.
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this
Douglas Feith was the point man for the right-wing in Iraq. He was designated by the Heritage Society to work directly under Rumsfeld. General Tommie Franks was our CIC in Iraq then. He worked with Feith. His comment about Feith acrually tells us about all the right-wing ideologues: “THE DUMBEST MVTHERFVCKERS ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET”
By Paul
June 7, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
@@
Ah-ha, you took my reference to “the Party that doesn’t march in lockstep” in a nonsarcastic way! LOL! Actually, I was referring to Senator Biden.
You’ll likely get some responses that “strict constructionist” is not a judicial philosophy, just a code phrase for conservative antiabortionist….
Then again, I’ve heard the definition of an “activist” judge is one who doesn’t rule the way you want -
I thought Rudy’s response on abortion rulings (even his 30-second condensed version) had merit.
But aside from possibly nominating a judge or two, I don’t think the issue is of much importance for a Presidential candidate.
Regarding Thompson: wanna bet that if he announces, the first things you’ll see on this blog will be comments on his social and personal life, not on the issues? We’ll give a pass to getalife with his updated postings of Mrs. Thompson - that’s different!
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
Paul: “Strict Constructionist” actually grew out of the southern strategy of Nixon of years past. They are code words to the south implying no government interference with soft rascist policies. Do any of your people have any skill? It is painful to listen to your people. This agonizing bogus religious refrain makes me want to puke. “I love God. God loves me.” “God created heqaven and earth” What crap! Can these people do anything? Strict Construction my azz!
By Paul
June 7, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this
RNC 6:00
No kidding. And there’s more than one crowd within the Party, each of which exerts considerable influence (Money & Power). Which is why I think the current crop of candidates bodes well for the future of the Party and two-party system (I’d be happy with a couple more parties). Now if Democrats would match it, we’d really have some good races.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
Let’s see how many of the conservatives who blog here are in “lockstep”.
I like Rudi and Romney despite the fact that the moonbats (incorrectly) think I’m a Southern Baptist.
@@ is fond of Thompson and so is LuckoDull, although he has previously expressed admiration for Rudi too. I don’t know what RW thinks of Thompson but he likes Romney and Rudi.
Not sure who Dusty’s favorite candidates are.
I am wary of Thompson because he supported Campaign Finance Reform which has been a disaster, and he was not aggressive enough on the real campaign finance violations from the corrupt Clinton era - particularly those from China. I also don’t understand his reasoning for his Impeachment votes.
I think we probably all agree that John McCain is great on the War on Terror but sucks at everything else - starting with Campaign Finance “reform” and continuing on through immigration.
I don’t think any of us support Bush on immigration, but we support him on the War.
Is that “lockstep”?
By N-GA
June 7, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
Quite frankly when I hear people on this blog talk about how nasty and mean some of the Left have become, it make me want to blow chunks.
The GOP and far right made “nasty” into a new art form. When they went after Kerry they even invented a new term….”swift-boating”. They went after him with lies an innuendo. The “Christian” Right…what a laugh. They went after Max Cleland attacking a disabled Vet by calling him soft on terrorism when he voted against TSA because the new government agency personnel would not be “federal employees”. They were “pot-to-kettle” long before ML.
Of course they get all sactimonious when their credentials are called into question…all of these super patriots who have never served…even going so far as to avoid service (Cheney? Saxby Chambliss?).
The GOP is really a party of hypocrites. They let others do their dirty work (jamming phone lines during voting hours, swift-boating, avoiding military service, etc.).
I say this and I am an Independent voter…the GOP and this Administration have never had room for opposing views. I can only hope that another party emerges from all this. Perot almost did it, until he had a meltdown…too bad!
By @@
June 7, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
I wonder if this has anything to do with Putin’s kind (cough cough) gesture for a joint U.S./Russian missile defense base in Azerbaijan.
(((“We would certainly agree to a [U.S.] proposal if we receive it, because European security is very important,” Aigars Kalvitis said in an interview with Latvia’s TV5 channel. “I am certain of this because we are a member of NATO and the EU, and play a part in Europe’s collective security.”)))
(((NATO’s Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Wednesday the entire European continent and all NATO allies, wherever they are located, should be covered by the U.S. missile defense elements in Europe.)))
Andy once told me that Putin was not our friend, so I’m keeping my eye on that guy.
China AND Russia are working to have us evicted from Manas Air Base in Kyrgyzstan. We’re paying over 5X the rent they’re charging the Russians for their Kant Air Base, but now Russia is offering them weapons.
Manas is pretty strategic in the war on terror.
So what’ll it be….money or firepower?
By Paul
June 7, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this
N-GA
Well hello.
True enough. But I wonder why so many on the Left emulated the worst of the Right. The Clinton times were nothing but vicious - the level of hatred wasn’t much different than the level of hatred today for Bush from the Far Left. Maybe they found it politically effective and worth copying?
I always wondered what was really behind Perot’s withdrawal - never thought we got the whole story. But I think both parties have but too many impediments in place to have another party have a shot at sharing power.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this
Look! A fashionable frog has evolved in Surinam. Naturally they are endangered. How do these people know that gold mining endangers a brand new species?
[A purple fluorescent frog is one of 24 new species found in the South American highlands of Suriname, conservationists reported on Monday, warning that these creatures are threatened by illegal gold mining…The two-tone frog — whose skin is covered with irregular fluorescent lavender loops on a background of aubergine — was discovered in 2006 as part of a survey of Suriname’s Nassau plateau, the conservation group said.}(http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN0449513020070604?feedType=RSS&rpc=22)
{{{They also found 27 species…One of these was the rare armored catfish, which conservationists feared was extinct because gold miners had contaminated a creek where it was last seen 50 years ago.}}}
Oh, nevermind.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
Woops. Let’s try the link again. I’d hate for you all to miss the frog story.
A purple fluorescent frog is one of 24 new species found in the South American highlands of Suriname, conservationists reported on Monday, warning that these creatures are threatened by illegal gold mining…The two-tone frog — whose skin is covered with irregular fluorescent lavender loops on a background of aubergine — was discovered in 2006 as part of a survey of Suriname’s Nassau plateau, the conservation group said
N-GA,
Why don’t you send your complaint to Joe Klein?
Sheesh.
By getalife
June 7, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
Hey PF,
Paris has a lot of free time to read these comments
Show her some love.
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
Paul: Is it too much to ask for talent? Frankly, I don’t see that much in either party. Giuliani has skill. I wonder if the religious fanatics in your party will let him out. Edwards gets my vote and a lot of independents. A man from modest means, a talented attorney. Can we please have someone balance the budget?
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
This should be right up the Moonbat’s alley. It reads like a parody, but sadly it’s not.
Hat tip: Hot Air
Is London’s future Islamic?/ It’s the capital’s fastest growing religion, based on noble traditions and compassionate principles, yet Islam can still be tainted by mistrust and misunderstanding. Here Time Out argues that an Islamic London would be a better place
By Paul
June 7, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this
Daniel
I was going to thank you (which I still do) for the history lesson from a southern perspective. Then you lost me with the “you(r) people” launch. I thought that was one of those politically incorrect terms.
Buy Danish
How was the pool? Catch-up from earlier - after I’d signed off.
[[how were the Islamists “averse” to the Nazis?]] Philosophically - religiously. National Socialism was not only nonMoslem, it was Godless nonMoslem. I didn’t view it as an “Enemy of my enemy is my friend” - more as a willingness to accommodate to advance the cause of Islam, get the British out. One battle at a time - Germans would come next, if it came to that.
By @@
June 7, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this
Well O.K., I’ll elaborate on my presidential picks.
I like Giuliani because I know where he’s coming from and why he is where he is on issues.
I haven’t really heard enough from Thompson on the issues, but I love his wit and his I don’t give a crap attitude about what you want to throw at me as it pertains to my personal life.
I haven’t heard Romney say much that is definitive on any issue.
Now here’s the shocker. Ron Paul has a libertarian bent that I can appreciate, but libertarian won’t cut it in a global world.
Tom Tancredo acts like he’s got a bee up his butt. Hell…liberals always act like they’ve got a bee up their butt, so I don’t want to WATCH him grimace for four years.
The only two that I think would walk into the Oval Office and walk out the same man is Giuliani and Thompson.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this
Paul,
An awful lot of what you call “Moslems” have embraced Socialism.
By Daniel
June 7, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
Paul: I meant the republican candidates. I try to find talent, skill and ability to work under pressure in politicians. I know. I know. It is often a fruitless search. So many of the posts here seem to deify the republican party. Which is odd considering so many behind bars, and under indictment and investigation. I do not believe the party label automatically makes one better than another. Yet, many independents will not vote republican next time, no matter the choice. Witness Webb’s win in Virginia.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this
I totally disagree with @@.
IMHO Ron Paul is an unbearable pompous a* and should be put out to pasture, and it has nothing to do with “libertarians being electable”.
Ron Paul is not electable.
See! We are not in “lockstep” at all.
By Buy Danish
June 7, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
Although I often disagree with him, Christopher Hitchens has many wonderful qualities, like being right about Iraq.
This is from a debate where he destroys a joker called “Hedges”. Scroll down for the video.
Hitchens: But, to what I think is the hidden agenda of the question: ‘Is George Bush on a Christian crusade in Iraq and Afghanistan?’ Obviously not, obviously not. Anyone who’s studied what’s happening in either of those countries now knows that the whole of American policy — and by the way a lot of your own future, ladies and gentlemen — is staked on the hope that federal secular democrats can emerge from this terrible combat. We can protect them and offer them help while they do so. We know that they’re there, that we are — I’ve met them, I love them, they’re our friends. Every member of the 82nd Airborne Division could be a snake-handling congregationalist, for all I know, but these men and women, though you sneer and jeer at them, and snigger when you hear applause and excuses for suicide bombers — and you have to live with the shame of having done that — these people are guarding you while you sleep, whether you know it or not. And they’re also creating space for secularism to emerge, and you better hope that they are successful.
By BlogFather
June 7, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
Boy, with political analysis like @@’s, who needs Lee Harvey Oswald?
The Repudlickans dont want the illegal immigrants to have a path to citizenship, because then they would have to pay them minimum wage, (as US citizens). Time for another emancipation proclamation to free these Mexican Slaves?
Speaking of Lincoln, they found a letter from Abe to Halleck written just after Gettysburg. Lincoln thought that his General (meade) should continue to attack the defeated and retreating confederates. Meade wasn’t about to go anywhere no how, no way, for no reason, (what? And risk his victory?). Meade was the right general for a defensive stand, and he also was a very lucky general, but he was no Grant. Lincoln didn’t zero-in on Grant for another year.
There’s a report out about the Saudi Ambassador to the US. If you want to know why we are in Iraq……
By getalife
June 7, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul is too honest for wingnuts.
They can’t deal with reality.
By @@
June 7, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
I totally disagree with Danish.
I wouldn’t use the word “pompous” to describe Ron Paul. “Stupidly naive” would be my choices.
The oldest terrorists in town, the ACLU; corporate terrorists protecting terrorists.
(((The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and British human rights charity Reprieve filed suit in California on May 31 against logistics consulting company Jeppesen Dataplan Inc. The suit claims the Boeing subsidiary knowingly aided CIA rendition activities abroad and is complicit in the torture of terrorism suspects.)))
(((The ATCA suit places government contractors (and would-be contractors) on notice: Any dealing with the government could place them at risk of a court case that, regardless of merit, can cause long-lasting damage to the company. The design, then, is to turn contractors into lobbyists for human rights.)))
By BlogFather
June 7, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this
Paris Hilton was freed today after all my blogging efforts paid off. She owes me big time, and I aim to collect, if’n you know what I’m a meanin’
Now it looks like Nicole Richie will go to prison for her own DUI. Suddenly this summer went into high gear. You know they dont hardly wear nuthin’ ‘neath them prison gowns. I’m likin’ what the judge be intimatin’
I guess it kinda gives new meanin’ to the chant, “here come the judge!”
Oh, dont reach for THAT one, Dye Brainless, it’s WAY over your head.
By N-GA
June 7, 2007 8:36 PM | Link to this
Paul,
You’ll need to refresh my memory about the Clinton era. The GOP didn’t invent nastiness, but they have perfected it. And they do it in God’s name!!!
Hell’s bells…even the wingnuts don’t think that the liberals are tough enough, mean enough, bad enough. If you believe anything on this blog, you might think they are all a bunch of cowards…pinkos who can’t wait for the “Islamofascists” to take over America.
LMAO at the stupidity of it all….