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By Mrs. Godzilla

May 25, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

John McCain won’t ever be my candidate, but a few cuss words and a show of anger are not the reasons why. He’s simply wrong about the occupation.

Why wait for 08?

Impeachment

Indictment

Incarceration

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

Wow — this toon’s hilarious, Lucko! McCain will never be president, but he sure is entertaining!?

By w00t

May 25, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

and they say Hilliary has rage problems…

oh, and by the way…The Future of America Has Been Stolen

By Lord Help Us

May 25, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

Shameful. Spineless.

Dems have the votes and the vast majority of Americans on their side of the bill to set dates for troop withdrawal…and backed down.

This is truly sad. 6 more American troops dead in our misguided ‘central front in the war on terror’ seeking to help solidify an Iraqi gov’t comprised of terrorists and aligned with Iran.

The national disaster continues…with no end in sight.

I hope the Democratic leadership understand that they have failed our Nation.

By Buy Danish in Absentia

May 25, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this

For examples of this promotion of misguided policies and guilt, you need look no further than a proposal in April by the UK-based Institute for Public Policy Research, which called for tobacco-style health warnings on airplanes to warn passengers that the plane flight may be contributing to a global warming crisis. The group proposed posting signs on airplanes which read “flying causes climate change.”

Then there is this.

{{{{{Another example of unintended consequences by climate crusaders was the recent proclamation by a UK grocery store announcing it would usher in ‘carbon friendly’ policies and stop importing food from faraway nations. This proposal may have been popular with wealthy Western environmentalists, but the idea did not sit so well with poor African farmers.}}}}}}

I just hope Al Qaeda and Company gets the message to save the Earth and end their flying binges.

Delivery service provided by RW-(the original)<————-Who will also be in absentia until this afternoon.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this

Just one reason why McCain will never be president:

In the three months since America escalated the number of troops and fanned them out into Iraqi neighborhoods, the violence is still raging. Top military commanders have acknowledged the situation will get more volatile before it gets better.

Candidates who continue to cheerlead for Bush’s policies will not be elected in ‘08.

Support our troops — don’t make them fight in other countries’ civil wars!

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

IS THIS AN OMEN?

Bird poops on President Bush

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

Goldielocks,

There are several reasons McCain will never be President, but supporting the success of the United States in defeating Islamofascism isn’t one of them.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

{{supporting the success of the United States in defeating Islamofascism isn’t one of them.}}

Please do let us all know when “defeating Islamofascism” is going to occur, RW the Deluded.

Thank you.

By Lord Help Us

May 25, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

If ‘defeating’ ‘islamofascism’ means supporting failed wars that result in dramatic escalations in terrorist acts and a rise in the ranks of ‘islamofascists,’ then…

CONGRATULATIONS…Senator McCain is a ‘winner.’

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Goldielocks,

If we could ever get your side to help out or at least get out of the way in would already have occurred. As it is you’ll probably get your way and the US will surrender only to have the next generation fight an epic battle for survival that will make WWII look like a joust at the Renaissance Festival.

IN THE PROP,

According to this highly respected journal of all things superstitious, it’s a good omen

Scroll down to sub-category “birds.”

With that I bid you all adieu having not thrown anyone real or fictional under any imaginary buses.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

{{If we could ever get your side to help out or at least get out of the way in would already have occurred.}}

RW the Deluded— please explain how more cheerleaders like you in America will solve the problem of “Islamofascism.” Thank you.

By YouSuck

May 25, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

By YouSuck

May 24, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

Spc. Daniel Seitz, 22, from Pensacola, Fla., said he was trying to stay strong and push ahead with the search.

“It just angers me that it’s just another friend I’ve got to lose and deal with, because I’ve already lost 13 friends since I’ve been here and I don’t know if I can take any more of this,” he said.

Just for you Dusty. You misguided bi*ch. Stick another yellow ribbon up your kazoo.

Before you start up with that crap of yours, Dusty.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

I just finished a book called “You Suck” by Christopher Moore, it’s a really funny book — sequel of “Bloodsucking Fiends”

I used to be all the way behind John McCain, but he’s gone on over to the dark side. No wonder he’s loosing his temper, it’s the demonic presence in his soul coming out.

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

FROM RW’S LINK

If a bird poops on your car, it is good luck.

If bird droppings land on your head it is good luck.

MISSING WAS:

IF A BIRD POOPS ON THE SLEEVE OF A LAME DUCK INCOMPETENT ITS NOT ONLY REALLY FUNNY AND DESERVED, BUT IT GIVES GOOD LUCK TO ALL PROGRESSIVES FOR A GENERATION.

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Let the games begin.

“I was for funding the troops with out a timetable before I was against it.”

Let’s see here, now…Clinton and Obama are 2 of just 14 voting against the surrender proposal. Interesting…the two front runners for the dem nomination in ‘08. No suprise that Feingold voted against it. He has been the ONE consistent one.

From this same article, note the reference to MoveOn…”“This bold stand by three of the four presidential candidates in the Senate won’t soon be forgotten,” promised Eli Pariser, executive director of MoveOn.org’s political action committee.”

Soros throwing his weight around…”Join us, or sink”. Seems HRC and BHO jumped when Georgie said jump.
THIS will be very entertaining to watch develop.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

That was not bird poop, that was another message from God †

Al Sadre is back in Iraq trying to end this occupation.

He wants the Iraq government to vote to end this occupation.

Lord knows, the dems will not.

By Lord Help Us

May 25, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Take a good hard look at the mission of our soldiers in Iraq…

It is to solidify a gov’t comprised of terrorists:

U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell has characterized al-Sadr as a “very significant part” of the political machinery in Iraq.

‘SUCCESS’ will mean we will have helped remove Saddam and replace him with al Sadr AND an Iraqi gov’t that is aligned with Iran.

All who support or enable this disaster should be ashamed…

By Paul

May 25, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Goldie 8:35

[[why “Islamofascism” cannot be defeated]]

That’s an interesting observation. If one means solely by military action (and I’m not aware of any military or administrations who have ever so stated), that’s a true statement. (The Iraq war was not begun as a battle against Islamofascism, obvious as that statement sounds). Which is why there have been engagements in the other arenas - many behind the scenes. One of the most recent nonmilitary examples, which would serve to benefit America’s strategic interest - supporting moderate elements in Iran - was reported by ABC news (BTW - those efforts were roundly criticized by many on the Left).

So your statement does imply this is an ideological, civilizational war, not to be viewed in traditional “military” war terms - (I agree) - even Pres Bush has said this struggle last over generations (he tosses that out and people still assert he can’t even read…).

So we have in Lebanon gov’t forces engaging Fatah al-Islam militarily (and with Fatah forces concentrated we could see a nice roll-up), indicating military force has its place. Saudi rulers (still exporters of radical Islamists) try to open up their societies s-l-o-w-l-y to alleviate some of the societal pressures threatening the monarchy (which steps, themselves, fuel Islamists); Egypt staggers along, hunting down radicals. So the point is, even those Middle East regimes threatened by these same forces haven’t found a magic get-well pill.

Defeated? In a classic sense, maybe not. Contained? Marginalized? Very probably. As long as the ABC types help out (then again, maybe ABC was played by CIA/Administration to bring even more pressure onto Ahmadinejad - but that’s another topic).

Later -

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Shawny….

Slight correction 14 senators voted against OCCUPATION FUNDING.

Timeline to withdraw was last week. Course, we’ll see it again before the $$$ runs out in September.

Also, we are DELIGHTED to see you all so scared of MoveOn, Soros, ORC, BHO …Keep it up! Nobody but the radical right swallows the “FEAR MANTRA” any more. It’s all yours! Enjoy!

IMPEACHMENT NOW!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

getalife,

How can you say that? You don’t even believe in God heathen!

By Lord Help Us

May 25, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

The ‘surge’ continues…

An Iraqi Interior Ministry official said Friday that 22 unidentified bodies were found in Baghdad on Thursday. The latest deaths bring May’s total for the Iraqi capital to 547 bodies — all are thought to be victims of sectarian violence.

Weren’t the apologists for this failure touting the ‘reduction’ in sectarian violence just a couple of weeks ago…they have suddenly become conspicuously quiet on this topic and gone back to other, equally specious excuses for failure…

Yup, you keep getting peed on and told its raining…

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Haven’t you got this yet? We did Iran’s bidding for them. We got rid of Saddam and now a Shiite government is in place - so they will align - why do you think ad Sadr has been in Iran?

And our fools in the government fell for it hook, line, and sinker!

By Twoof

May 25, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

They have no shame Lord Help Us! This is the same Bunch that are Sunday Christians that use church as a social networking service and then for the next 6 days, lie cheat and steal and go right back to church on Sunday for the weekly feel good pill.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Bosch 9:22

Rather than looking at it as a “trap” in the setup sense of a well-developed chess game, I look at it more as, after a situation has developed in a game in which one is not an active player, that one sees an opportunity and capitalizes upon it.

By @@

May 25, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Dear John, did you get my letter in 2000?

By getalife

May 25, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Lord wimp,

In the words of McTemper:

*#@& You!

By Well, well

May 25, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Al-Waili, Leader of the Mahdi Army, has been killed. Is the Moveon flag flying at half staff yet?

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

[The system for delivering badly needed gear to Marines in Iraq” has failed to meet over 90 percent of the “urgent requests for equipment from troops in the field.” Among the items held up “were a mine resistant vehicle and a hand-held laser system.”] (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MARINESCRITICALGEAR?SITE=OHALL2&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

By Paul

May 25, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Bosch

My 9:30 would’ve given a better sense if, instead of “well-developed chess game” I’d written “well-planned chess game.”

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

getalife,

In the words of your Id…….

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Paul, The ME nations have been at war with each other for years. Do you remember the Iran/Iraq war? Just kidding, I know you do, but my point is that they are a lot more patient than we are. These people will wait for years to achieve their goal (whatever that may be). So will terrorists, they are very patient — we have created a new breed of terrorists with this insane war.

But I hope you are right. I hope there has not been some kind of “grand plan” for the Shiites — maybe I’m just paranoid, but I can’t help wondering.

By Well, Well, Well, Well

May 25, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Oh boy another one!

Maybe a #1, who used to be a #2 before being a # 3 twice just prior to being on the deck of cards as a King….

or something like that.

Move on takes their cue from the chimperor….when he starts flying the flag at haft mast for …

Honor the Fallen
The following fatalities were identified by the DoD on 5/23:

Lance Cpl. Benjamin D. Desilets, Cpl. Julian M. Woodall

Official DoD Count of Troops Killed in Iraq: 3414 Troops Killed in Afghanistan: 386 Wounded in Action: 26605

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

What I am delighted to see is the puppetry of MoveOn, pulling Hillary and Obama’s strings, making their mouths move, and casting their votes. Also, I delight in the position shifting for and now against…saying that a timetable isn’t sensible, now refusing to provide equipment without one. I delight in the separation of the reasonable dems and those that bow before the altar of MoveOn because they need the $$$$$$ to gain the big chair next November. While you are correct in that most Americans want us out of Iraq (and so do I, by the way), most don’t want to pull the ripcord and hand it over to Iran. There is division among the dem ranks, where just a scant few months ago, there seemed to be alignment. I don’t wish for their demise. Multiple parties, debate, and bipartisanship is good.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Paul, Don’t worry, I don’t get caught up on grammar issues.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Shawny, Why do you think MoveOn has $$$$? Could it possibly be that they have a huge support base?

Obama has raised tons of $$$$ from lots of people with small contributions. What about that?

By Paul

May 25, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 9:33

Care to bet if the new, concentrate-on-really-important-stuff Congress will hold hearings on this and actually change some procedures and laws?

Or will they instead hold hearings on, oh, the ideology of news channels subscribed to for gov’t-owned televisions?

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Well, well, well, well -

Think about how many of the “wounded” would have been killed if this was the 1960s (as in Vietnam).

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

I meant to add in my previous post -

Just think how many of the troops would have died in this conflict if we didn’t have the great medical resources we have now. Go medics!

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

“Why do you think MoveOn has $$$$?”

Hmmm….perhaps billionaire George Soros has a little something to do with it.

Of course, Obama will gain support from a lot of small donors. And maybe, just maybe, his position wouldn’t shift based on how MoveOn tells him to shift….I am just saying that it will be fun to watch.

Not so much with him, though, as it will be with Hillary. She kinda reminds me of that Dylan song, “Blowin in the Wind”.

By HeartlessBas%tards

May 25, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Every single one of these as%holes should have to write a letter to one of the mothers that has lost a child in this fiasco.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Bosch

Didn’t see it as a grammar issue. One implied planning and influence before the game begins, the other references recognizing opportunities in a game well underway and acting upon them.

Regarding the ME - I’ll disagree a bit - Iran/Iraq war is an example, but for decades before that (aside from Saddam’s Kuwait invasion) the only wars were between blocks of Arab countries and Israel. I don’t think I’m missing anyone, here.

As far as a new breed, I’d characterize it as “more opportunities for the new breed to recruit more believers.” The development of radical Islamists has been underway for many years. Their attention had also been directed against ME governments - but decisions by all parties has directed attention and operations to where we are today.

“A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what’s going on.” William S Burroughs

By Jesus

May 25, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!!!

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Shawny, Come on now, the Republican party has plenty of billionaires supporting them and their organizations like the Heritage Foundation, etc.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Shawny,

I suspect the very scarey and terrifying MoveOn could learn a few things from Puppet Master Rove! Or James Dobson! Or the secret energy rask force!

I see shifting now too….Chimp seems to be at least mouthing ISG these days. Some positioning, eh what!

Also frightening is the whole $$$$$ issue. Dems are raising twice as much money all over the country. Even here in GA.

I assume that since you don’t want to pull the ripchord and hand over Iraq to Iran you have found a way to just hand it to the Saudis? They stay over night at your house too?

Democrats are united in the goal - END THE OCCUPATION. STOP FURTHER ESCALATION. Like the oppo we can differ in opinion on the details.

Yep, Impeachment.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Scaife makes Soros and Moveon look like pikers….

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Yes, Paul, I think I would agree with you on that. You are right.

I like that saying too — I’ve also never really been good at chess, my sons beat me everytime!

The whole thing with Israel is one of the reasons I was defending Jimmy Carter the other day. He’s just saying in his latest book what many around the world already know. The Christian right, well, not even the right, Americans in general, just can’t handle that our unending support for Israel has caused a lot of this mess.

By the stopper

May 25, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Did Rush and Hannity convince the 28 Percenters that Moveon.org is the Most Powerful Force on the Planet to American progressives?

Has to be the case. I keep hearing about moveon.org from wingnuts.

Funny, but I can’t remember the last time I even saw their website. (or Kos’, for that matter.)

Independent, critical thought. Wingnuts might want to try it sometime.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Jon Stewert telling it like it is

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

“I feel a direction change in the air,” said Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., chairman of the House panel that oversees military funding.

nah…Just big Johnny breaking wind.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

No data, just fart jokes.

Who’s full of hot air?

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Shawny feigns naivete.

Pathetic.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Bosch 9:55

Sorry for the delay - seems we’re back to dropped posts.

A key difference between organizations like MoveOn and Heritage Foundation is MoveOn is a political action group that selects issues and candidates, then provides funds and member campaigning for support.

MoveOn has 3.3 million members and is made up of several organizations, all employed in direct political action. Heritage Foundation is a think tank - no membership base to work its slant on issues.

Link: MoveOn Recent Successes

Heritage Foundation is a think tank/research group employing academics, researchers, policy experts to issue reports on a variety of topics.

Link: Index of Heritage Research

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

All of you cretins will one day realize that George W. Bush is one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had!!

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Paul,

While you are a voice of reason, trying to reason with some of these hacks is a futile effort.

But I do applaud your valiant effort.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

No kidding Shawny! D’UH! We all know that already.

You want us out of Itaq to… are you going to be one of those Republicans who “join with us to reject President Bush’s failed policy”?

Or are you holding the secret GOP Plan C?

(Plan B escalating to 200M soldiers)

Shawny - if you were CIC what eould you do?

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Is it possible that on Memorial Day weekend we have liberals who don’t even know we are at war? That OUR troops are fighting our enemies and getting killed FOR US?

Let’s make it simple. We are fighting a WAR, not an occupation. There are two sides. WE are one side. THE ENEMY is the other side and that is Islamofascism with its creeping killers. YOU CANNOT BE ON BOTH SIDES.

Now, if you want the USA to LOSE, keep plugging for the OTHER SIDE. If you want the USA to WIN, support the USA. Now, have you got that straight??

As to McCain who is the dump-on-a-conservative of the day for loser Luckovich who also wants us to lose the war, McCain has fought and suffered for this country already. While I do not think he is the one for the presidency, I do not want him made into some kind of silly caricature. He deserves better than that.

So Happy Memorial Day. Remember, liberals, memorialize our own military, not those who hate us, want to kill us, and have already attacked our country, the Islamofascists.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Paul, Ummm, yes, I kind of know the difference, but here’s the mission of the Heritage Foundation:

The mission of the Heritage Foundation is “to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.”

Think tank, smink tank, they are just as political.

I’m sure MoveOn has just as a far left mission as well.

We have the Brookings Institute — like Wooten said the other day (paraphrasing), you can manipulate information to fit any agenda.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Unfortunately, most liberals are to stupid to understand the intelligence and sensitivty of your post. They will find a way to attack you and what you said. The only thing you can do is continue to exercise your God given thinking abilites and overlook the inevitable idiotic backlash that’s coming your way.

Chaos

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Escalate. Take out that wacko next door that is pulling the strings, supplying weapons, and working his centrifuges. Shore up the Syrian border, closing it off to the movement of weapons and homicide bombers.
Put Pakistan on watch…put up or shut up time with them. Engage in very serious talks with our Arab friends to the south, asking them for help. In the US, fund new refineries and drill in ANWR and off the coast of Florida. Fund hydrogen fuel cell R&D. Create incentives for GM and Ford to manufacture and sell hydrogen powered vehicles. The addiction to oil must cease….. but presidents have been saying this since Gerald Ford, and it hasn’t gotten better.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Dusty, I choose to think the best way to celebrate Memorial Day is to bring home our troops so that we won’t add anymore names to the “Memorial” list.

Yes Dusty, we liberals do realize we are at war - the best way to support the troops is to bring them home!

By Shawny

May 25, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Unfortunately, here we go again in our wonderful congress. Prices high, pass legislation against those big bad corporations. What REAL problem do we solve by this? Nil.

The bills, driven by Democrats but with substantial Republican support, would criminalize free enterprise. . Yeah, that free enterprise is stifling. Friggin idiots.

By mountain man

May 25, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

If someone like Bush ends up doing the same thing over and over again and it doesn’t work and we therefore rightly call him insane, what do you call it when someone like McCain wants to do that same thing over and over again?

Sorry to say it, but McCain has two bad things going for him. First, he’s too old to be President (he’s probably entering senility or dementia), and he’s tied himself to a losing horse.

Like Andy says, I can’t wait till ‘08. I can’t wait to see all those loser Republicans tied to a damn rail and run out of town. Good riddance!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Thank you for proving my point.

Chaos

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Sorry Chaos, I thought you were a sarcastic embodiment of ignorance like Right Wing Nutjob in Full Glory.

I wasn’t attacking Dusty, I was just expressing my opposing opinion. She has her right to express her opinion, I have mine. It’s called the First Amendment.

There was nothing “attacking” in that post.

Try again.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Attempting that repeatedly failed tactic of equating opposition to what is absolutely positively an OCCUPATION with a desire for this great country of ours not to win is a moldy oldy.

You might try that same stale old tack with your buddies in the 28%. They might fall fo it.

Our home will be proudly waving the flag all weekend - we’ll touch base with the vets in our family and thank them for their service - we’ll place wreaths on the graves of fathers, grandfathers, brothers and sons - and we will continue to fight for a speedy end to this evil occupation.

Don’t question our patriotism, it leads us to believe you are not quite sure of your own.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Dusters, have you used up your quota of ALL CAPS for the long weekend, or do you have more left?

By Paul

May 25, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Bosch 10:42

True, true, for the ideology (I notice MoveOn likes the word “Progressive” - I don’t think I saw “Liberal” once.

Hmmmm. Maybe O’Reilly has something with his Secular Progressive/Traditional (and a Traditionalist can be a Liberal, but it is difficult for a Secular Progressive to be Conservative) thing.

I digress. Mobilizing over three million members to work specific campaigns and items of legislation is a bit different from staff researchers, or contributors from other academia who write reports and serve as lecturers is a bit different, not just in degree but in scope.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

“Mobilizing over three million members to work specific campaigns and items of legislation is a bit different”

Yep, its the beginning of the end of the conservative movement.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Yes, I agree with you there as well. Comparing MoveOn to Heritage is like comparing apples to oranges.

I was simply responding earlier to a remark that someone made about Soros backing MoveOn. I should have thought of a conservative political action movement comparable to MoveOn, can’t think of one right now.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 25, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

-=-

GSA Chief Violated Hatch Act

Now will Dubya do his job and fire her?

-=-

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Fox News covers Iraq war the least

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Peoples, Yeah right. He’ll probably give her a medal.

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Pentagon using taxpayer money to silence the press

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

You do realize your delicate words “the best way to support our troops is to being them home” is just another way of saying cut-n-run? I do not think that is support of the troops. That is telling them that what they fight for is not worth two cents.

Just whom do you think will be following our troops home when they abruptly leave? What do you think will happen to Iraqis trying to establish a new government? Does any of that register on your sympathy scale?

We do not speak Japanese or German and have no innihilation camps for certain people. That is because we had Americans who did not declare “bring our troops home” during war time.

Think again, Bosch, or I shall have to tell you what Patrick Henry said. Maybe you don’t remember.

rushncap,

Yep, I have a few caps left just for you. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH. Isn’t that why your family came here from Russia?

By SarahConnah

May 25, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Somewhere in Washington DC there is a bird that spoke for the world.

Was that a white stain on a blue suit?

ha ha ha

Curtsie

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 25, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

-=-

Dusty we are not fighting a “WAR” - We have not declared “WAR” on any 1 defined country. Our troops are not in a direct firefight with a specific political body. We are in an endless cycle of conflict against a philosophy. I’ll call this the “Battle of the Slogan”. The “War on Terrorism” is just like “The War on Drugs”

We are in another police action just like VietNam. We are occupiers of a foreign country (Iraq) and our troops are dying by IED’s positioned on the roadside while they patrol (police) the countryside. We are in battle with the Partisans(patriots) of the country we occupy!

Our Troops are dying - our friends and family members are dying - to control a country that has a resource that our corporate entitys want under their control. There is big money involved and lots of greed. There is absoulutly no other legitimate reason for us to be in Iraq other than it’s huge oil resources.

If all of our troops came home - and defended OUR borders against any invaders versus Defending the Iraqi’s and Big Business interest in that sand pit, then I would be greatly relieved. This would mean that the troops would truly be defending Americans and The Troops would be much safer themselves here at home.

Dusty - which is more important to you? Protecting USA soil by having our military forces at home? Or putting nice big targets on our troops and putting them in a foreign country where a few will get killed daily by at the hands of those people that also want us out of their country?

Defend the USA - Not the middle-east!

and for God’s sake woman!

No Blood for OIL!~

Is a human life really worth filling your gas tank?

Thomas/PNAC

By @@

May 25, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

I just read a one of the best analyses on the birth of radical Islam dating back 14 centuries.

(((Though I have already tried to explain the nature of Jehad, in view of its complexity and emotional appeal, I think, it is necessary to be repetitive for elucidating this blood-thirsty war mechanism, that has now emerged as the most formidable challenge to the intellectual and moral dignity of man and his civilization.)))

It seems as though, in order to cultivate followers, the Prophet was actually complicit in creating them.

(((The first principle of Jehad is that a person loses his free will and becomes a slave of Allah/Mohammed when he accepts Islam because it creates certain duties and rewards which do not come within the jurisdiction of morality abnormally understood by cultured people.)))

Now that he (Mohammed) has “his oppressed” people, they, in turn appreciated his movement’s hospitality, but resented their dependence, which the custom held as a sign of disrespect, derision and degradation.

(((If the crusader survives, he gets loot and also legally becomes entitled to possess women of the vanquished. Along with it goes the enjoyment of imperialism that accrues from receiving perpetual tribute.)))

So he (Mohammed) claims to be fighting imperialism while becoming, himself, the imperialist.

If I return to the intellectual, cultural and moral dignity of man and see “radical Islam” as his formidable foe, I have to ask myself “What percentage of Muslims (believers of the true Islam) are intellectual, cultural and moral people?”

Answer…the majority, or the ones in the Middle East who aren’t willing to die and who realize that continuing to allow the Jihadists to further their agenda will leave no loot or “booty” to be had.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Boshc 11:19

[[ I should have thought of a conservative political action movement comparable to MoveOn, can’t think of one right now]]

LOL - before I read your post I was thinking about the same thing - couldn’t come up with one, either.

So here’s something sure to be met with silence by many on the Left: both spectrums have think tanks advancing their agendas.

The Right has several “groups” bound by ideolgy or “values” loosely referred to as the “Christian Right” or “Family Values Voters.” The Left has the antiIraqWar group - altho that’s morphing with increasing numbers of (not as strident) Republicans.

The Left has membership groups (such as MoveOn), well funded by outside organizations, as well as members, who target candidates and items of legislation and engage politically to elect the candidates and pass the legislation. The Right has…. who, exactly?

So the whole “Soros and others fund activist political action groups to advance an ideology is just crying “Wolf” by Republicans to instill fear” assertion by the Left is “truth”?

I’ve two projects awaiting - talk with you later -

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

{{WE are one side. THE ENEMY is the other side and that is Islamofascism with its creeping killers.}}

Dusty-brain, even your wingnut president has admitted that the # of “terrorists” we’re fighting in Iraq is causing about 7% of the violence. Being a great mathemetician that you are, I’m sure you realize that means that 93% of violence in Iraq is caused by Sunnis and Shias killing each other! So your guy W is keeping our troops there in Iraq to try to stop a big 7% of the violence — great idea for using our troops and wasting their lives, yes??? You are really a brilliant math-whiz and cheerleader…

By getalife

May 25, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Yea, cut and run to leave Iraq to the Iraqis.

Geez.

By Lord "Help" Us

May 25, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

2006- Devlin reports that there are no functioning Iraqi government institutions in Anbar, leaving a vacuum that has been filled by the insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq, which has become the province’s most significant political force, said the Army officer, who has read the report. Another person familiar with the report said it describes Anbar as beyond repair; a third said it concludes that the United States has lost in Anbar.

Please, we need one of the koolaid drinking wingnuts to tell us how successful our misadventure in Iraq has been…HURRY!!!

2007- {{{There is good news from Iraq, believe it or not. It comes from the most unlikely place: Anbar province, home of the Sunni insurgency. The level of violence has plummeted in recent weeks. An alliance of U.S. troops and local tribes has been very effective in moving against the al-Qaeda foreign fighters. A senior U.S. military official told me—confirming reports from several other sources—that there have been “a couple of days recently during which there were zero effective attacks and less than 10 attacks overall in the province (keep in mind that an attack can be as little as one round fired). This is a result of sheiks stepping up and opposing AQI [al-Qaeda in Iraq] and volunteering their young men to serve in the police and army units there.” The success in Anbar has led sheiks in at least two other Sunni-dominated provinces, Nineveh and Salahaddin, to ask for similar alliances against the foreign fighters. And, as TIME’s Bobby Ghosh has reported, an influential leader of the Sunni insurgency, Harith al-Dari, has turned against al-Qaeda as well.}}}

Geez.

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By Hey, Moron

May 25, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

If Bush invaded Monte Carlo because he says gambling is immoral would it be supportive of the troops to say: what the heck is he talking about? Our troops should not be there. Or should we say “go kick their butts, we’re behind you?” I would believe that even a hangnail suffered by a soldier in such a mission would be an injustice and therefore I would support the troops by not supporting a stupid mission.

I am not saying that Iraq is AS stupid as this example but I say this to demonstrate that the logic that we have to “support the mission to support the troops” is simply flawed. If an American citizen truly feels in his heart that our troops should not be in harm’s way in Iraq because the mission diminishes rather than enhances our security, as I do, I should not be forced, at the point of being told that I am against the troops, to support the mission. That is to say that it is illogical to suggest that blind support for any mission is the only way to support the troops. The question, for each of us, is whether the mission is in the best interest of the country. If you believe that it isn’t, it is not only your right but it is your obligation to let your feelings be known. I am deeply offended by the insinuation that if you believe the mission is flawed that you are somehow undercutting the troops. It also makes me question the sanity of some of my fellow citizens who believe that blind allegience to a President, no matter what we feel about his policy, is the only way to support the troops.

Did you protest the Republicans when they wanted us out of Somalia or Yugoslavia? I am willing to believe that they had the same feelings for the troops that I do and merely wanted what they thought was the best for them. I’d appreciate the same consideration from you.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

{{just another way of saying cut-n-run? I do not think that is support of the troops.}}

Right, Dust-For-Brains— and that means your idea of “support our troops” is to STAY-N-DIE for an never-ending war against a tactic called “terrorism”. Just brilliant…

I’m so glad you’re only a member of the 28% cult and therefore will be on the losing side in ‘08. But you just keep cheerleading away — that’s obviously all you know how to do. The remaining 70% of America will find a way to extracate our troops from fighting in that civil war in Iraq, and it’s all because you don’t have the guts to admit how wrong you are in continuing to send the same troops back to Iraq over and over again to face that civil war that’s raging.

Shame on you!

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

“The Left has membership groups (such as MoveOn), well funded by outside organizations, as well as members, who target candidates and items of legislation and engage politically to elect the candidates and pass the legislation.”

Yes Sir. We sure do have groups like this. Proud of them too!

Fine patriotic Americans who are actively working to make their collective voices heard.

Men and women, young and old, rich and poor, weak and stong. All citizens living up to their responsiblities as citizens.

A very American thing to do.

God Bless them, every one!

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Lea: Isn’t thr cartoon a blatant attempt to “defeat the profanity filter?”

Why am I the only one who gets “banned” for that?

Geez.

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{{{By getalife May 25, 2007 9:11 AM Al Sadre is back in Iraq trying to end this occupation.}}}

al_Gitmo: The use of the word “occupation” in this situation is a little harsh, although I believe you are already aware of that.

An “occupation” would be like Polly squating on this blog and gay bashing all the Conservatives with the apparent approval of the Atlanta Journal Constitution™.

What the U.S. is doing in Iraq is called killing Al Qaeda off and bringing peace to the Middle East.

If you Cowards would just give us a chance to.

Geez.

{{{By HeartlessBas%tards May 25, 2007 9:50 AM Every single one of these as%holes should have to write a letter to one of the mothers that has lost a child in this fiasco.}}}

GFY.

Like you are the only person in the world, selfish little pric-k.

I never saw this shi-thole crying over the WTC, innocent victims all.

Using the soldiers sacrifice for political gain, you are the scum of the Earth.

Coward.

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By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 25, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

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Paul & Boshc —

There are lots of Right Wing “527 Committees” that you could cite as examples. You could start with the Swift Boat groups.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=SwiftBoatVeteransforTruth

Laters everyone - Have a great Memorial Weekend and definitly remember those that have served and especially those that have given their lives.

I will be with my friends at the events at Ft. Rucker - Alabama remembering a few military friends that we have lost over the years. Some in war and some not.

Cheers - Thomas/PNAC

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Dusty, First of all, I said “BRING the troops home” not “BEING the troops home.” (Sorry, Paul, I said I wasn’t concerned about grammar, it’s just too much fun to mess with Dusty).

I think Peoples summed up my position as well in the 11:51 post. I’m a huge advocate of bringing the troops home to help protect our borders against foreign terrorists.

Another thing Dusty, this whole notion of the terrorists COMING here is just plain nonsense — they are already here. That’s why we need our troops here to protect us here. I certainly do not want me or anyone I know and love to get blown up. I want more protection here.

Our great soldiers are getting blown up in Iraq every day. They do have big targets on their backs. It kind of reminds me of that Far Side cartoon where the two deer are in the forest and one deer says to the other deer who has a big giant target on his stomach, “Bummer of a birthmark, Hal.”

Now, I’m not trying to make light of this, I certainly am not making jokes about our soldiers getting slaughered, but it’s just that ABSURD.

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Uh-oh, the moonbats are losing their 33% approval:

{{{Disappointing the Base Day by Matt Stoller, My DD, Thu May 24, 2007 at 05:14:58 PM EST Well we knew that we wouldn’t get what we wanted in 2006. Here was my prediction. This is a multi-cycle challenge, with the need for progressive primary challenges years into the future. Shelley Berkeley, Howard Berman, and Steny Hoyer are particularly bad, and though I have no idea if any of them are vulnerable to a progressive challenger in their district, I would support such a challenger if one arose. Meanwhile, all we can do is make lists of those who betray their constituents. Afro-netizen was leaked a letter from 26 CBC members imploring Obama, Edwards, and Clinton to attend the Fox News-CBCi debate. Color of Change listed them in the comments.}}}

Geez, it took all of 4 months for the libs to out themselves as-

1) Campaign promise breaking champions, award winners.

2) More corrupt than all of the Republicans from the last century PUT TOGETHER.

3) Bush Boot Lickers.

4) Have done absolutely NOTHING in Congress, so much so that the last set of Republicans now look like busy little beavers.

Just think, next year this time when these sniveling pandering Cowards need your vote again, they will start back with the bulsh-it about how much they are Going To Do For You!!

Geez, what suckers.

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By rushncap

May 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Dusty, my family came here because we were blissfully unaware of the fact that American customs required us to stop thinking starting in customs. Is that how it works? You know, my family thought that America was the land of the free, where freedom of thought and speech and criticism was inviolable. Where if you were unhappy with the government you could voice it without fear of being sent to the Gulags or getting all your relatives shipped to Siberia. Silly us, Dusters!

By getalife

May 25, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

When were you banned Andy?

There is a one party system now which I will call the “war party”.

Its an occupation for oil Andy.

Everybody knows this fact.

You should be happy, the war party will attack Iran next and there will be a draft for WWIII.

God save America!

By getalife

May 25, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Andy,

The war party is one party of dems and gop with full corporate backed funding.

What type of government is this?

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

{{{“I feel a direction change in the air,” said Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., ———————->chairman of the House panel that oversees military funding.<——————————-}}}

Blah, blah, blah, filthy Mouth Murtha, at least this little ring meat mofo isn’t false witnessing against our brave soldiers.

The only “direction” being changed is which way these Sniveling Cowards are going to run when Bush stands before them.

We Rule Over you weaklings, you stupid anti American scumbags.

Cowards.

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By @@

May 25, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Well, damn! Ahmadenijad isn’t paying his bills.

(((Russia is considering abandoning construction on Iran’s Bushehr nuclear power plant because the work is becoming unprofitable, RIA Novosti reported May 25, citing a source in the Russian Nuclear Energy Agency. The source said Iran has not taken “concrete steps” to finance the project, paying only $20 million since the beginning of 2007 while the contract stipulates payments of $25 million per month.)))

I wonder how much of his country’s finances are supporting Jihadists outside of Iran.

It just makes one wonder why Iranians may be p** with him.

Now I’ve gotta go buy a new flag. Somebody stole mine. I just hope they took it to fly it proudly, and not to desecrate it in some way.

Have a great Memorial Day everyone. Memories are what sustain us.

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

I see you are celebrating Memorial Day with the usual name calling such as Dusty-brains, Dusty sucks and other school child epitaphs. Time to grow up, little one.

Then you said in a deep Democratic haze:”Your idea of ‘support the troops’ is to STAY and DIE for an never ending war against a tactic called ‘terrorism’.

GOLDIE POSTS THAT WE ARE FIGHTING A TACTIC.

What a tactic!!

Our buildings in NYC collapsed for a ‘tactic’.

Our embassies are being bombed by a ‘tactic’.

Our alllies have their trains sabotaged by a ‘tactic’.

Goldie, I hope you stop fighting the president one of these days and realize that we are fighting Islamofascist terrorists and that is their name.

Happy Memorial Day. Don’t forget now. It is a remembrance in honor of those who died fighting FOR us against our enemies.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Someone needs to flip Dusters record to side B. A is stuck, as usual.

By JP

May 25, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Shawny, your Bill O’Reilly fetish is showing — nobody gives his “George Soros” conspiracy theory any weight.

Wes Clark appeared and actually got O’Reilly to admit he’s conducting a character assassination by repeating his nonsense bile. Is Bill-O the kind of “Deep thinker” you aspire to be?

Please.

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

rushcap, silly boy,

You were shipped off to a university. Is that what you mean? If anybody is censoring you, they are not doing a good job.

Bosch,

Glad you have never made a typo. That would be absurd. Yes, nothing like a little messing around. Cute bit of snobbishness there. Also your dress- up of cut-n-run is pretty good. Still cut-n-run but sounds better. Happy Memorial Day!!

By getalife

May 25, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Its funny all this back and forth, dividing the American people, when they are one party feeding the economy with war, free trade, immigration and the North American Union.

Are we stupid or what?

Geez.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Wonder why the stock market is breaking records when gas prices are breaking records too?

I think Wall Street knows that war, free trade, immigration and the North American Union will all pass and help keep the economy going.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Wonder why the stock market is breaking records when gas prices are breaking records too?

I think Wall Street knows that war, free trade, immigration and the North American Union will all pass and help keep the economy going.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

“Shipped off” to a university? I guess Dusters is a wee bit jealous. What, that middle school education not doing it for ya, Dusters?

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 291

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Just a quick drive by

Paul and Bosch,

The reason you can’t think of a conservative political activist group with three million members like moveon is really simple. One of the basic principles of conservatism is individualism and one of the core beliefs of liberalism is collectivism.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Conservative PAC with 3 million members? Easy: Focus on the Family.

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife May 25, 2007 12:54 PM Its funny all this back and forth, dividing the American people, when they are one party feeding the economy with war}}}

al-Gitmo: You really want this war to end?

Then why don’t you stop giving our enemies hope?

You’d be amazed to see how quickly this would wrap up once Al Qaeda knows they can’t defeat us in our own Congress.

Every day this drags on, every day another American dies, the blood is on your hands.

You’ve already surrendered to the war, you’ve already funded it for the next year and a half, why can’t you shut the F up?

Is giving aid and comfort to the enemy something you sniveling Coward liberals HAVE to do?

Word.

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By Paul

May 25, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

JP 12:44

So much for addressing the main points - I guess personalities are so much more fun.

OR characterizes Soros as a Secular Progressive and doesn’t like his positions on a variety of issues. General Clark prefers to cite humanitarian work done emphasize humanitarian work done by Soros. Two different positions, both presented with specifics. Gen Clark took money donated by Soros for his campaign - BOR made the silly remark “how could you, don’t you know what he stands for?”- that led to the delineation of the views. Gen Clark said his views wouldn’t matter - but did admit he’d not take dollars from David Duke. Oh well -

No where have I seen anyone refute BOR’s allegations (based on SEC filings) that Soros is a major direct or indirect funder of certain organizations. Most responses are along the lines of “he’s a fear monger, idiot, hysterical” etc. That does seem to be a favorite tactic of some on the extreme left - ignore the issue, paint the messenger as hysterical.

So BOR has on a guy, several times, conversation gets heated, at the end his opponent says he’s happy to appear - and we’ll likely see him again. If Gen Clark doesn’t have a problem with appering and providing counterarguments with specific examples to BOR - well, neither do I.

Let’s see, the last time Rosie or Olbermann had an interview with someone whose position they greatly disagree with was, when, exactly?

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

RW

Inneffective attempt to paint Liberals as socialist with that little “collectivism” quip.

We the people are not a collective.

We the people are hardworking, dinner making, laundry washing, tv watching, book reading, child rearing, grocery shopping, bill paying, lawn mowing, ball playing, love making, puppie chasing human beings. AND 70 plus percent of us think this administration and its minions are doing great harm to our nation.

Yes, Republicans are staunch individualists, as long as the individual is not gay, brown, other than radical right christian or capable of critical thinking.

Shall I compare a Republican to a Facist?

1.Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy

2.Create a gulag

3.Develop a thug caste

Set up an internal surveillance system

Harass citizens’ groups

Engage in arbitrary detention and release

Target key individuals

Control the press

Dissent equals treason

Suspend the rule of law

or try this

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

The Honorable Senator Inhofe, ruling over the sniveling Coward democrats, as usual:

{{{Thank you for having this hearing today, Madam Chairman. I have to say, however, that we seem to have hearing after hearing after hearing on climate change – indeed, this is the Committee’s second one this week alone – but we don’t seem to actually discuss legislation. While other Committees without jurisdiction on this issue attempt to write our nation’s global warming policies, this Committee sits idly by talking about tangential issues. I believe that if we do wrestle with actual legislation, then the folly of cap-and-trade carbon legislation will become apparent.}}}

The folly of cap-and-trade carbon legislation, yes, have someone plant a tree for you so that you can belch smoke out of your Gulfstream jet, geez.

Even the libs know it’s a load of crap, that’s why they are trying to lull us to sleep with their usual babble, passing legislation in the wee hours of the morning telling YOU how to live.

Cowards.

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By getalife

May 25, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Its silly arguing with you .

Both parties have the same agenda to keep it going to feed the economy and steal their oil.

Why do you think the dems caved on free trade, immigration, the North American Union and Iraq?

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Take a good look at this guy’s boots, you sniveling Cowards, because when Bush is gone you will be cowering before him:

{{{He said America is beset by a variety of challenges, from government inefficiencies, to “entitlement programs (that are) bankrupting the next generation,” to protecting citizens from terrorists. “We’re living in a nation beset by suicidal maniacs,” Fred Thompson, next president of the United States, said, launching into criticism of the immigration bill.}}}

Word’s spoken by a Man out to win my heart.

Geez.

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By Lord Help Us

May 25, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Question:

If, as the President says, we will leave if the Iraqis ask us to leave…

Then what?

Will we have ‘surrendered to al Qaeda’?

Will the ‘terrorists follow us home’?

Will ‘the entire Middle East be consumed in civil war?’

By Paul

May 25, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

The context was there are think tanks, political action committees (widespread, not issue-specific like Swiftboats) and ideological groupings. Many (to me, mostly on the Left) intermix them when pointing at their opponents (what started it was comparing a large organization (MoveOn) with a think tank (Heritage Foundation). Your point on individualism has merit. All too many seem to say “MoveOn? Why, they just do talking and stuff. They don’t really have an agenda!”

rushncap 1:24

Good one, although I’d point out “Focus on Family” has, as its name implies, a pretty narrow mission, while MoveOn has a much more diverse mission covering a wide range of social and political topics.

BTW - last week after I’d signed off you’d asked me to name anything good Pres Bush has done. I hate to let serious questions slide, and while any answer is an opinion (I could say tax cuts, many here would jump in and say “You @!!@ supporter of the rich @!!$ and I’d say, gee, I meant benefits for low-income people, child care credits, stuff like that) I’ll say:

Changing the focus on dealing with Islamic fundamentalists from a criminal law-enforcement mindset (altho I’m not sure how lighting off a few cruise missiles fits in - but I do know how dispatching the FBI after Khobar Towers does) to a warfighting mindset. That’s important as it recognizes our enemies don’t fit into traditional categories that slot into the agreements and protections that were established - Constitutional for citizens, Geneva Conventions for enemy combatants. I’m not saying the process has been smooth, without flaw or without some dumb detours, but it’s getting there.

By @@

May 25, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Gee, RW and I must be passing one another on the road.

My drive-by…..

Poll: Voters would invite Giuliani, Obama to Memorial Day picnic

“This is a way of getting at the notion of genuineness,” he said. “It’s an index of curiosity.”

Republicans pick Giuliani by 41% over Obama’s 37%

Democrats pick Giulini by 31% over Obama’s 24%

Independents pick Giuliani by 35% over Obama’s 34%

Take note of the slight lead in independent voters. They’re not stupid people. They gave the Democrats an ever so slight chance to do something in ‘06. The Democrats wasted their chance on political witch hunts. When it comes to the war on terror, Giuliani’s resolve and experience in confronting the enemy is gonna count for something with independents.

Obama’s fiscally liberal programs will go against him. His inexperience in matters of national security will do the same.

The Democrats can enjoy their “baked beans” in ‘08.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

The best thing about Fred is his wife.

Yum.

By Midori

May 25, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

{{{{Someone needs to flip Dusters record to side B. A is stuck, as usual.}}}}}

post of the year!!

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

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Source?

By Apocalypse

May 25, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

OBAMA IN ‘08!!!!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Midori= Tramp of the Year!!

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

I guess you could call the Southern Baptist Convention a political action committee as well, how about the Moral Majority?

Ummm…RW, where are you getting your definition of liberalism from? I don’t know about collectivism, but the two principles of liberalism that mean something to me is individual rights and freedom of thought.

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Midori,1:59

My record is better than your recording of “Cut-n-run ‘cause war aint no fun!”.

You and rushncap both sing off key.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Chaos, So are you a sarcastic embodiment of ignorance or what? You know, like Right Wing Nutjob in Full Glory. I didn’t take you serious earlier because I thought you weren’t real.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

{{Then why don’t you stop giving our enemies hope?}}

Licka-Dull, your guy W has been giving our enemies “hope” ever since he diverted America’s resources away from Al-Qaida and decided to invade Iraq instead… Bin Laden is jubilant and his new recruits have been growing exponentially because of your guy’s stupidity. And, on top of invading an Islamic country who never attacked us, our “enemies” watched with glee when they saw America spinning its wheels while chaos and looting was the order of the day for weeks and weeks after we invaded… so you can forget your little lectures about “giving our enemies hope”, because you and your ilk have been doing that from the get-go!

Sniveling coward, pounding away on your keyboard all day, while you keep sending the same troops back to be slaughtered over and over again — SHAME ON YOU, LICKA-DULL.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

Boschit,

You forgot three additional principles of liberalism:

Higher taxes Increased Perversion Weak defense

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Paul - regardless of FotF’s “official” mission, their major goal is to get conservatives elected to office. The more conservative the better. And they have a very very broad range of issues they care about, if you look on their website.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

How @@ turns a weekend picnic into “national security” boggles the mind.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Dusters — I don’t sing. I speak. Truthfully. Sorry.

P.S. You squak, but at least you do so on-key.

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Increased Perversion????

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

General Wesley Clark has e-mailed some thoughtful words to his supporters, reminding all of us what the Memorial Day holiday really means — in part:

{{“Above all, take a day to learn more about someone who died in defense of America. If you’re at a parade or prayer service and you see a veteran or military family member, ask him or her who they are honoring. Learn more about that hero, so their memory can endure. Too often, we talk about the fallen in terms of numbers. We forget, each of those numbers were real people, with real lives, and real families. The names on the thousands of memorials across America are more than letters etched in stone — they are lives lost with honor. The best way we can honor those who sacrificed their lives is to ensure that the memory of who they were as human beings is never forgotten. Please, on Memorial Day, do your part to ensure their memory lives on.

Thank you for your support of our troops and veterans.”}}

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Liberalism is a mental illness and should be treated as such. Patients suffering from this deadly disease need immediate medical treatment. If you would like to know if you are suffering from liberalism, watch for the one of the following symptoms:

Emotion rather than logic, fear of strong defense, love for terrorist nations, hatred for George W. Bush, insistance on polices that break up traditional marriages and promote gay marriages, higher taxes to install socialist government, and complete and utter loathing for all unborn babies.

Chaos

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Chaos, Do you mean perverts like Mark Foley? Oh wait, he was a Republican.

Weak defense? Any athlete knows, you can’t win with defense alone. Same with the military. You can’t win by just blowing everything up (even though it is cool in the movies).

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

{{When it comes to the war on terror, Giuliani’s resolve and experience in confronting the enemy is gonna count for something with independents.}}

HA! What “experience in confronting the enemy”, pray tell? By putting his command center right there in the World Trade Center after the place had been bombed in ‘93? All Rudy’s got is his rhetoric and it ain’t gonna get him too far in ‘08.

Rudy’s a big joke, and so are you, Boobs!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Bocshit,

Tell that to Hiroshima, Japan dumba$$!

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Lord Chaos is an even bigger joker than Boobs — especially the “and complete and utter loathing for all unborn babies” part. LMAO! Tell that to my two grown-up, thriving young’uns, why dontcha!

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Increased Perversion LATELY…

[[[The first victim to come forward told investigators Klaudt offered to earn her enough money to pay for college by helping her donate her eggs to a fertility clinic. She says Klaudt used a fake email address from the supposed clinic agent to trick her into letting him perform what’s supposed to be a surgical procedure.}}}

{{{Five different girls now say Klaudt did things ranging from manual “breast exams” to the painful procedure of actually going inside of them with a speculum and collecting body fluids. The girls say when they cried, Klaudt gave them a beer and told them to toughen up.}}}}

Sniveling Cowardly Degenerates

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Peggy Noonan rocks:

{{{Let’s take time and find out if the immigrants who are here see their wages click up and new benefits kick in as the endless pool stops expanding. It would be good to see them gain. Let’s find out if it’s true that Americans won’t stoop to any of the jobs illegals do. I don’t think it is. Years ago I worked in a florist shop removing the thorns from roses. It was painful work and I was happy to do it, and I am very American. I was a badly paid waitress in the Holiday Inn on Route 3 in New Jersey. The young will do a great deal, and not only the young. The dislike for Americans evinced by the Americans-won’t-do-hard-work crowd is, simply, astonishing, and shameful. It says more about the soft and ignorant lives they lived in Kennebunkport and Greenwich than it does about the American people.}}}

Those fat sniveling Cowards that live in Kennebunkport don’t have a freaking clue what it means to have your city swamped with illegals, to not be able to send your kid to public school because you don’t want them to be a mindless clod like Goldi, to not have an emergency room that treats your emrgency because it is covered up providing free health care, no, Ted Kennedy has no idea what he does, walled up in his private compound, geez.

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By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Chaos, So are you suggesting that we bomb the hell out of Iraq with a nuclear bomb?

And you just wrote that liberalism is a mental defect? Ummmm….hate to break it to you, but that’s crazy.

Whose the dumbass?

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Goldie, I too didn’t loathe my three wonderful children when they were in the womb. Go figure.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

GoldiePlated,

Of course you want your own children to live. You want to vote to destroy everybody else’s. This political contradiction is just the type of condition that liberalism sufferers have.

Chaos

By The Watcher

May 25, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

*Those fat sniveling Cowards that live in Kennebunkport*

Who lives there?

Better check that out…..

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Chaos, I seriously think you need to settle down, breathe deeply, and step away from the keyboard for a little bit. Please take your medication too.

By Can't Resist

May 25, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

“”You want to vote to destroy everybody else’s.”“

Nope, only yo’ mama’s!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Boschit,

It doesn’t have to be a nuclear bomb, it can be with the tools we’re using right now. You brought up the notion of blowing things up. The war in Iraq will be a success thanks to the genius of George W. Bush.

By Apocalypse

May 25, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Yaaaaay! We get two more Whale sharks! Now if we could just get rid of idiots like Lord Chaos.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

GoldPlated,

Use your own ID when you speak to me coward!

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Chaos, all those “tools” that the child-king is using (did you call him a genius? I think you need some anti-psychotic drugs) are working just great. You just keep on with that.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

Although I admire your name, butt out heathen!!!!

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

{{{By Bosch May 25, 2007 2:27 PM Chaos, Do you mean perverts like Mark Foley?}}}

Let’s see, Mark Foley was gay and made googoo eyes at some 17 year old and nothing else, while Gary Studds was gay, did Lord only knows what to a seventeen year old and told Congress to pis-s off, got reelected twice.

What was the difference between the two, gee, I wonder.

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{{{By The Watcher May 25, 2007 2:41 PM Who lives there? Better check that out…..}}}

Bush has got his head up his as-s on immigration same as Kennedy does.

I’m not a stupid slobbering partisan goony, like you are, I’m an American.

Any questions?

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By @@

May 25, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Watcher @ 2:02:

Watch this…Poof!

Well Goldie?

(((Rudy’s a big joke, and so are you, Boobs!)))

That’s odd, some people here say the same thing about you. I guess that makes us sisters.

So let’s vote for Rudy, a candidate who is willing to compromise on social issues (that one is for you & me), while placing national security at the top of his agenda (that’s one for me).

He experienced 9/11 from a front row seat, but we all watched it with him.

I’ll be waiting in the wings for Fred though if you would like to join me there

…and Goldie, you sure do like my Boobs. Should I be worried about you?

You may (@@) look, but please don’t touch.

I’m outta here.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

LuckODull, Point is, there are perverts everywhere, it’s not a liberal v. conservative issue. Perverts are perverts. They don’t have an (D) or (R) next to their name.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Chaos has had enugh of pandering to sick people. I understand Bosch and Goldie why you are the way you are. Sick people don’t know they’re sick. It’s probably not your fault anyway because I can prove that the disease of liberalism starts as a result of some traumatic experience. Perhaps you were molested or you saw your dog die, I don’t know. My sympathies go out to both of you and people like you who have contracted this deadly disease. Please accept my apologies if I have contributed to your condition.

Chaos

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

{{You want to vote to destroy everybody else’s. This political contradiction is just the type of condition that liberalism sufferers have.}}

Chaotic-Mind, your ridiculousness is the type of condition that made your party lose so badly last November… you really need to get yourself some new bumper sticker slogans ‘cause those tired and false ones don’t work for about 70% of America these days.

By No conservative attack groups??

May 25, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Swift Vets and POWs for Truth, formerly known as the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT), is an organization of American Swift boat veterans and former prisoners of war of the Vietnam War, formed during the 2004 presidential election campaign for the purpose of opposing John Kerry’s candidacy for the presidency.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Chaos, “because I can prove that the disease of liberalism starts as a result of some traumatic experience”

Okay, go ahead.

“Perhaps you were molested or you saw your dog die, I don’t know”

You are the lowest of scum to make fun of molested children. I hope all on this board are paying attention to the sickness of this individual. Please keep writing Chaos, you are giving our side more points.

By Apocalypse

May 25, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Don’t let mongrels like Lord Catastrophe get to you. He/She/It has obviously been sitting around somewhere jerking off pictures of Bush and now wants some attention.

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

You know what, I can listen to every TV and radio program in the country and read all publications but there are some basics that will not change in my politics. When I go to vote, these “basics” are my standards:

Is this for the betterment of our country, state or county?

Does this candidate display the same morals and ethics to which I try to adhere? (Note that I did not say religion.)

Will this candidate honor and defend our country and it’s citizens?

Sometimes I am disappointed. Sometimes I’m not. Sometimes I disagree with those I voted for and were elected.

I realize that they are all human and you don’t get perfection. But I do argue for those I think are fighting for our country and it’s future. That includes George W. Bush for whom I have great respect.

So much for that. I love simplicity.(Nevermind, rushie. I’ve been through the university bit, got diplomas, and now my children are well on the way to PhDs, science ones at that.)

Happy Memorial Day and see ya’ later!!

By Jesus

May 25, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

{{He experienced 9/11 from a front row seat, but we all watched it with him.}}

And that, Boobs, in your mind, makes him strong on national defense? Girlfriend please! Any mayor worth his paycheck would’ve done the same job as Rudy did on 9/11, if not even better. The difference is that other more rational mayors probably would’ve learned a lesson after the first WTC bombing and not placed the first responders’ command center right there in the middle of the bulls-eye!

Do have yourself a great weekend.

By WHAT is RW TALKING AABOUT???

May 25, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Liberalism refers to a broad array of related doctrines, ideologies, philosophical views, and political traditions which advocate individual liberty.[1] Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights. It seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power (especially of government and religion), the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports free private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Boschit,

See, you just proved my point. I did not make fun of molested childred, I was speaking in reference to you and others like you. I merely gave examples of experiences that would be traumatic for a lot of people(I also mentioned seeing your dog die). Liberalism sets in when you fail to adequately cope with that experience. The fact that you accuse me of such is proof that you are a victim and you think by supporting foolish things that you can make the world a better place. That is nonsense.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

You do love simplicity, Dusters. I’m glad you’re proud of being a simpleton.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

{{So much for that. I love simplicity.}}

Dust-For-Brains, we all know how you love those simple slogans for solving America’s problems… Rah-Rah-Rah!

Now you go and have yourself a great weekend, too!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

I think Chaos has hit a nerve.

By RE

May 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Well, I see little has changed over the last few weeks, dissapointing what the dems did in congress allowing a war bill with no timelines, benchmarks or anything else. GWB has one more year and no one to blame but himself for what happens in Iraq.

The sun is shining and all is right with the world, my wife gave birth a few days ago to a healthy baby boy. I am sure I will digress into arguements in the future, but for now I am going to enjoy changing diapers, feeding a hungry boy, and having a perfect person sleep on my chest.

Have fun

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Chaos, You are much too ridiculous, childish, and immature for me to interact with anymore. Good bye.

By The Thinker

May 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

You can tell who listens to Bortz, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. whenever you see or hear the term “islamofascists”. What a bunch of Bush-licking red-necks! They can’t even think for themselves. By the way, I support the troops but not the war. There is a difference!

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

CHAOS WINS!!!!!!!

By @@

May 25, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Goldie:

and a Democratic mayor from New Orleans would have left the impoverished citizenry in his chocolate city to become victims of Hurricane Katrina.

You have a good one too.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

RE, Congratulations!

By Dusty's Delusions

May 25, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Does Dusty have delusions of being the Cleaver family. God how sickening.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull 2:53

[[Foley: Studds: What was the difference between the two, gee, I wonder.]]

I think the more telling point is the differnce between the majority of voters in the two districts.

Bosch:

[[there are perverts everywhere, it’s not a liberal v. conservative issue. Perverts are perverts. They don’t have an (D) or (R) next to their name.]]

When you’re here a bit longer you’ll find that’s not quite true for a number of posters here.

By Troops Dusty doesn't support

May 25, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new (2006) Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Congratulations, RE — have a wonderful new-daddy weekend!

By @@

May 25, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Yaaayyyy RE, I’ve been wondering when you would make the birth announcement.

CONGRATULATIONS…a boy…that’s so cool.

By Lord Chaos

May 25, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Bosch,

If you are still there I am sorry if said something out of line to you. We’re all just BSing on this blog ok? Don’t respond if you don’t want to. I won’t answer any comment you make as well.

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

RE

CONGRATS AND BEST TO THE MRS>

By Troops Dusty doesn't support

May 25, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new (2006) Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

RE 3:18

Good to hear from you again. And Congratulations! You’re especially fortunate that all is well with your child. Many are not so fortunate.

Is this another case of the wife does all the work and the husband gets all the accolades? :)

Pls pass on our ‘congrats’ to your wife as well -

PS (Just between us - in the interest of efficiency, when the baby cries your wife should get up, as a wet diaper change is followed by a feeding (encourage breastfeeding) and since you can’t do that, it’s terribly inefficient for two to do a continuous process that can be done by one).

Then duck.

By rushncap

May 25, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Congrats RE. Have a good weekend with him.

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

AINT THIS A BRILLIANT IDEA

Bush Administration To ‘Skim Off Border Patrol Agents’ For Duty In Iraq

PAY ATTENTION TO THE $$$$$$ WE CANT GET 3.5%…..

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

Paul, You are treading in dangerous waters.

By @@

May 25, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Paul:

What a sneaky scoundrel you are. RE can pump during the day AND feed the baby after changing him in the wee hours of the night.

Did I get ‘ya when I swung?

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

From Brooks Brother Rioter to Judge

By getalife

May 25, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Little RE in house.

Congratulations.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

@@ 3:40

Yeah, you did - just like my wife did the first time I said that. It’s called “wisdom gained from the School of Hard Knocks!”

By Troops Dusty doesn't Support

May 25, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Darrell Anderson, who received a Purple Heart for his service in Iraq, talked about a situation he was involved in when orders were issued to “shoot everyone” regardless of whether they were civilians, including children. He stated that they used, what he called, “excessive force.” He said: “I realize it was my duty as a soldier to refuse this illegal war.”

By RE

May 25, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Thank you all, thank you. The mom and baby are doing well. Thanks for the advice paul, the wife and I have it worked out. I take the midnight and 3:00 am feeding so she can get some sleep, then she takes the 6:00 am and 9:00 am. It all works on paper.

Of course I still only get a few 2 hour naps at night. Can’t get around it.

It lives up to all the hype, the most incredible, joyous, frightening, and life changing event is the birth of your first child. And you cannot know about it until it happens to you.

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Congratulations, RE, seriously.

Send the kid to Christian school, please.

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{{{By Bosch May 25, 2007 2:57 PM LuckODull, Point is, there are perverts everywhere}}}

So what was the huge, world ending catastrapohic hissy fit about Foley?

The guy didn’t even touch the kid, you libs freaked slam out.

You let the gay bashing lib “out of the closet” and off he went.

I will be here to remind every body of that for years to come.

You know what I mean?

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By Troops Dusty doesn't Support

May 25, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Will Dusty give this soldier her support as he has asked or will she label him a traitor??

Warriors Rally against Iraq War Active-duty personnel join activists in Norfolk to ask for an end to the conflict. BY JOHN M.R. BULL from the Dailypress.com January 16, 2007

NORFOLK — Sgt. Jabbar Magruder spent 11 months in Iraq and turned into one angry soldier. No weapons of mass destruction. Shifting rationalizations for a mismanaged war. Now a civil war among Iraqis. He began speaking out against the war last year. He wants others in uniform to do so as well and wants civilians to support them.

By Paul

May 25, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull 3:50

Was it “gay bashing” from that quarter with Foley, or was it more outrage at an adult engaging in such conduct with minors who were effectively in the care of the Congress - you know, the gross abuse of position and power issue.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Like RE will follow Andy’s advice.

Geez.

Those pervs on to catch a predator did not touch the kids either, pervert enabler.

Double geez.

By RE

May 25, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

I don’t know about a christian school, however the baby did “baptize” me a few days ago. Mom got baptized last night, she was to say the least surprised. I swear, the little guy waits for you to take off the diaper before he lets go.

By Goldie

May 25, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

It’s time to pop the Chardonnay cork — have a fab weekend everyone!

By Paul

May 25, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

getalife 3:58

In numerous states statutes state (say that five times) no contact is necessary. Merely to suggest, ask for or solicit sexual contact (verbally, in person, over the phone, via computer) constitutes a felony.

As well it should.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Boys will be boys!

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Yeah, whatever:

{{{In 1994, news emerged that Democratic Rep. Mel Reynolds had a consensual sexual relationship with Beverly Heard beginning when she was 16. Heard said Reynolds gave her cash at each meeting and supplied her with his pager number and apartment keys. In taped phone conversations, they even plotted group sex with a 15-year-old Catholic high school girl Heard had said wanted to have sex with him. The infamous Reynolds reply: “Did I win the Lotto?” He asked Heard to take photos of the girl’s private parts. Reynolds was convicted of criminal sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography. The networks barely touched on this story as it broke in 1994, and ended with conviction in 1995, which is why, dear reader, I bet you don’t even remember it. Did the Democrats believe in holding Reynolds accountable? Bill Clinton pardoned him as he left office in 2001. He then went to work as a consultant for Jesse Jackson. Don’t forget 1983, when Republican Rep. Daniel Crane and Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds were censured by the House for sexual affairs with teenage pages (Studds with a male). Crane was defeated in a Republican primary; Studds arrogantly continued in Congress another thirteen years.}}}

You sniveling Cowards are willingly to accommodate perverts as long as they are democrat perverts, that is ten times worse than having one pervert who we forced to resign immediately.

GFY.

Cowards.

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By Denali

May 25, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Consider just what day Monday is. Then think about all the useless, needless, totally wasted American lives slaughtered in Iraq under the guise of “democracy” and “freedom” and “peace” and “patriotism” and such false BS. Then think about that low-life, drunken SOB who currently squats in the White House. And be proud.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

That’s not true LuckODull, like I said earlier, perverts don’t have a (D) or an (R) next to their name.

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

RE,

Congratulations and even if you don’t like the Christian School suggestion from Andy at least try to do everything you can to get little RE educated in a private school. They’re far too precious to turn over to the government.

That feeling you mention happened to me 28 years ago, but I still remember exactly how you feel.

By Another Dumb Drive-By

May 25, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

My drive-by…..

Poll: Voters would eat Spaghetti-O’s and twinkies.

“This is a way of getting at the nation’s stomach width,” he said. “It’s an index of fattness.”

Republicans pick Kraft Macaroni and Cheese by 41% over Spaghetti O’s 37%

Democrats pick Kraft Macaroni by 31% over Spaghetti O’s 24%

Independents pick Kraft Macaroni by 35% over O’s 34%

Take note of the slight lead in independent voters. They’re not super fat people. They gave the Democrats an ever so slight chance to eat something else in ‘06. The Democrats wasted their chance on political Ding-Dongs instead of Ho-Hums. When it comes to the war on the Chocolate’s, Giuliani’s resolve and experience in confronting the enemy is gonna count for something with White-Chocolate covered Fundies. Obama may be too skinny, anorexic?

The Democrats can enjoy their “baked beans” in ‘Oh Ate’. The conservatives are going to feast on ribs, apple pie, hamburgers, ice cream, chocolate cake, fried chicken, pecan pie, hot dogs, cotton candy, pork chops, mac and cheese, bacon, candy bars, soda, pop, coke, pepsi and Dr pepper, potato salad and more.

See, Republicans are winning.

By IN THE NEWS

May 25, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Memorial Day Quiz

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

{{{By Paul May 25, 2007 4:03 PM In numerous states statutes state (say that five times) no contact is necessary. Merely to suggest, ask for or solicit sexual contact (verbally, in person, over the phone, via computer) constitutes a felony. As well it should.}}}

Paul: So a democrat poking a kid in his behind and serving two more terms in Congress is O.K. but a Republican sending the kid emails and resigning for it immediately is an awful felony?

Huh.

I would have never figured it that way.

But they don’t have R’s or d’s next to their names what ever that means.

Cowards.

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By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

RE,

That’s a reaction to the cool air. Keep a shield handy whenever you’re heading in.

Paul,

The “outrage” over Foley was pure political opportunism, but at least the Republicans did the right thing and ran him off. That doesn’t work both ways.

Wiki Liberalism Definer,

Your Wiki link is all well and good, but it defines classic liberalism which is better known as conservatism. None of the moonbat(ic)s® in Congress want anything remotely resembling individualism.

By @@

May 25, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

RE:

The baptizing? It’s the cold air. He’s new…he isn’t experiencing the “hang-ups” you big boys have.

Was he a little early? because I remember the due date was sometime in June.

This is wonderful, just wonderful.

I need a tissue.

By RE

May 25, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

35 weeks, he came in at 5 pounds, 12 ounces. So he is a techincally a preemie, but he has no problems at all, just have to look a little harder for clothes and pampers, and the way he eats, that will not be for long.

Thanks for the tip on the cold air.

I feel embarrased about the memorial day quiz, I only got 60%. What the heck is the Nez Prince war anyway?

By @@

May 25, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

OMG, I just read Dumb’s Drive-By @ 4:20.

Too funny! Kudos…

This place has become an emotional roller coaster for “little” ol’ me.

Crying and laughing.

I need a break.

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it funny how a baby can bring out the ewwy gooiness in all of us?

Babies are great, RE, just wait until he hits middle school and your sweet baby thinks you are the dumbest thing on the planet. Enjoy these moments, they are truly a great time (even my teenagers are still great).

I think all of us here don’t have to be reminded of what this weekend is all about.

Happy Memorial Day everybody - even you Chaos!

By Bosch

May 25, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

One more thing RE, your son didn’t happen to be born on a Delta flight, did he? I read about that today and they said he was premature. What a story!

My baby is flying across the pond to the “Motherland” next week (without me, I might add).

Again, have a great Memorial Day, everyone!

By @@

May 25, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

From graduates of the U.S. Naval Academy:

(((An estimated 27,000 people attended the academy’s 157th traditional ceremony. There are 1,028 graduates this year, including 862 men and 166 women.)))

(((Rebecca Phelps, who will be a weapons officer aboard a ship in the Gulf this summer, said it was the “best feeling in the world” to make it through four years of rigorous academy life and become an officer.)))

(((“I really feel like I’m ready to meet the challenge,” said Phelps, of Santa Cruz, Calif. “This is what I signed up for. I’m ready to jump in and do it.”)))

(((P.J. Riester, a fourth-generation academy graduate from Valley Lee, Md., said he was feeling “total elation” while holding his diploma, after admiring his father’s since he was a child. He was eager to get started in Pensacola, Fla., where he will attend flight school to be a Naval flight officer.)))

Congratulations guys!

By RE

May 25, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

no, not on any plane.

A long long labor right here in Atlanta.

By Midori

May 25, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

I agree — that last drive by was pretty dumb, as evidenced by @@’s enthusiasm.

If she likes it, it has to be stupid.

check out Jerome Corsi

If you guys liked Bob Kerrey, you’ll really love this.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

So, we have the first baby born on this blog and he will be a “vicious lib”.

We had a death and now a birth.

Let us hope the Iraqis will vote for us to withdraw and cheney will not attack Iran for Memorial Day.

By LuckoDull

May 25, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

I wonder if the libs will be quoting Pat Buchanan this week:

That is why congressional Democrats are surely saying privately of the angry antiwar left what has often been said by the Beltway Republican elite of the right: “Don’t worry about them. They have nowhere else to go. And that is why the antiwar left was thrown under the bus.

Huh, they chose Bush’s boot to lick instead of the moonbat’s.

Geez.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By @@

May 25, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Aaaawwwhhhh Midori. I wanted to give credit to an adversary for some “creative writing”. Reach across the aisle, if you will.

The fact that you would feel slighted and exhibit “YOUR” constant need for attention doesn’t surprise me at all.

Have a great Memorial Day weekend “birdpooper”.

Onto “more important” matters of national security…

By the way, Senator Obama, it’s a ‘flak’ jacket, not a ‘flack’ jacket.

(((It was a natural mistake, I suppose—Obama has so much experience with flacks, and none with flak. It’s a reminder, too, of how callow Obama may look running for President (or even Vice-President) in a time of war, and how effective McCain can be on the national security issue.)))

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I think we’ll be waiting until at least Fourth of July.

By the way, we’ve had two deaths on this blog so somebody needs to get to work on another baby.

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

@@,

Supposedly after that flack/flak flap a McCain staffer said Obama wouldn’t know the difference between an RPG and a bong.

By Go Andi/e Yourself

May 25, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Andi/e - a euphemism for an obscenity

By getalife

May 25, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Oh, that is right.

My bad.

I will get right to work on making babies.

By @@

May 25, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

I hate to take credit, but right after the November elections, I was in here telling the radical leftists (Midori specifically) that their own party wouldn’t be able to find a place for them. They would be sacrificed, in the interest of Democratic politicians.

Waffles topped with “birdpoop” anyone?

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That’s the spirit! Make sure she’s a good conservative. It’ll be better for the little one and conservative women are a lot more fun in stage one baby making techniques.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Actually, we have all been tossed under the bus for corporate interests.

Wait until you see the final immigration bill.

Geez.

By @@

May 25, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

You’re right RW. Joe Roman.

Getalife:

If you do make a baby, will you let the Mother give up her night job or just restrict her to private performances?

By getalife

May 25, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

Please RW,

Conservative women are dead in bed. Too conservative.

Me likes em liberal, very liberal.

By RE

May 25, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

RW,

Good point. Conservative women are interesting. All those years of repression just build and build and when they get to release, man do they get all out crazy.

Memories of going to college in the bible belt.

By getalife

May 25, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

@@,

I would never have a baby with a stripper.

That is too liberal.

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

RE,

You better hope Mrs. RE doesn’t get a look at that comment. This is a time when you want to have your eyes wide open in that department too.

By Rev Haggard

May 25, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

I think its just a myth that conservative women are dead in bed. When I was pretending to be one I was wild!

Grrrrrr…..

By @@

May 25, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Gosh RE, your 6:02 reminded me of Dennis Miller.

1995? Was he still a liberal then, or had he gone conservative?

By RE

May 25, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

1995 Dennis was still funny, so I would assume he was a liberal then.

By WHAT IS RW???

May 25, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

RW was a conservative before he was a liberal.

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

RW (the most original),

Two died? Huh?? Who? Do I send flowers?

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

It’s been a long while, but it was Buff’s Dad NeoReo and Joe Roman.

By Al

May 25, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

I find the AJC blogs entertaining…. luckodull, TAKE YOUR MEDS!!!!, or not…. and keep making me LMAO….

By Dusty

May 25, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

RW (the original),

I remember NeoReo and Joe Roman but I was thinking this was something recent. That was a while back.

Babies ARE wonderful. The fifth is not quite as exciting as the first but just as lovable.

By RW-(the original)

May 25, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

They truly are wonderful and I stopped at two with one of each but I’ll take your word on the fifth one. I was the second of five and it did sort of seem like by the time the last one arrived we just kind of moved some furniture around and got right back to our routines.

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