Mike Luckovich

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

Yeah, the democrats would never put their party before America, geez.

The same democrats that want to surrender America to the terrorists because of pressure they are getting from their 29% crowd at MoveOn and Kos Kiddies.

This cartoon is so full of crap, if it had any truth to it at all, why didn’t Bush cave into the 11 Republicans who whined about their electoral prospects, huh, huh?

Like I always say, when a liberal accuses someone of something, you should always frisk the liberal first, it saves time in finding the real criminal.

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Like it would kill the AJC to say “anti Israel:”

{{{Speeches U.S. aired in Arabic blasted-Urinal}}}

Geez.

The pinkos in Atl hate the Jews so much they can’t even bring themselves to acknowledge the racism perpetrated against them.

And look at this stupid liberal hate language “blasted” whatever happened to the word “criticized?”

Human Freaks.

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Our campaign strategy:

{{{According to the Gallup Poll, the Democratic Congress’s approval rating has declined from 37% to 33% in mid-April, thence to 29% in mid-May. That rating places the Democrats below the approval rating of the hellish President George W. Bush, and at least he has invested some of his political capital in large things, for instance Social Security reform and two wars. The Democratic leaders have achieved nothing other than raising a cloud of gloom over Capitol Hill. Frankly I would like to know more about the lingering 29% of the electorate that approves of the Democratic Congress. Are these the remnants of the Angry Left we heard so much from last fall? Or are these actually Republicans who want the Democrats to continue on a road that might well lead to oblivion. In recent weeks, Senator Reid and Congresswoman Pelosi appear to have been seized by an impulse to suicide. Perhaps al Qaeda will sign them up as drivers.}}}

Define yourselves democrats, you can’t hide anymore.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

{{{The Democrats, in other words, remain trapped in the land of symbolism over the war. Taking up the responsibility that the “power of the purse” gives them does not seem to be on the agenda. They’d rather posture, appeasing their party’s left wing without taking ownership of war policy. This evasiveness won’t let them off the hook, however. The political consequences of defeat won’t only belong to President Bush. To the extent that Democrats are making the conduct of the war more difficult and less certain, they already bear responsibility for the war’s outcome whether they like it or not.}}}

Plus the 30 or something votes in the Senate you lost put you on record as being against American victory.

We’ll make sure to remind everybody.

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{{{Liberal presidential candidate John Edwards, for example, lives in a 30,000-square-foot home, gets $400 haircuts and recently made a lot of cash by working for a profit-driven, cutthroat hedge fund. How’s he supposed to alleviate his guilt over this? Presto! He can lecture others about the inequity of an American system that unfairly created two unequal societies — his rich nation and many others’ poor one.}}}

The left’s “church,” their confessional, they hate their Creator so they have to pay penance by hectoring you, it assuages their guilty consciences without interrupting their good life.

And they get away with it, why?

Ignorance?

Blooming idiot constituents that think living off the government is a respectable “career?”

Geez.

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Michael Reagan, showing some of the old Man’s spunk:

{{{Look at the Democratic candidates, for example — the only time you’ll see them in church is in an election year - and it’s never their own church, but always some Black church they manage to discover when they are running for office and forget as soon as election day passes.}}}

Damn.

I couldn’t have said it better.

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By George

May 17, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Boy is this one true! They could care less about the average Americans who aren’t with the Republican party.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

{{{Here in Lynchburg, a whole community was grieving. Phelps described how, five days before Falwell died, he handed out diplomas to pre-kindergarten kids at his church’s early learning center. He tapped her grandson on the head with his diploma, hugged others and posed for photos. “It was such a proud thing for us,” Phelps recalled. “How loved he was.”}}}

Rest In Peace Jerry.

By Mrs. Godzilla

May 17, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

Mike this cartoon tells the whole sad story.

Thanks be that we have the liberals, progressives, populists, moderates, independents and greens who still believe in and are ready to fight for this

God Bless America.

Peace,

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla - It’s sad that Republicans wrap themselves in the flag but act in a manner that can only be described as un-American. Kind of like some Christians who act in the most un-Christian like manner.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Can We End the American Empire Before It Ends Us?

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

The Repugs have tried to lead based on their 29% club’s dictates, and that’s why 70% of America is ready for leadership from the Dem Party again… God bless all of America!

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

It’s amazing the amount of space that is wasted with the ongoing blathering of LuckoDull.

Talk about diarrhea of the keyboard.

Seriously though do you think he stays up all night writing this crap and watches the clock? Then right at 8:00 he furiously starts cutting a pasting.

What a sad existence.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

SO, do most Americans reject Bush & Cheney because they believe them to be haters of America, or could it be that they’ve shown themselves to be incompetent in management and leadership? I give the Repugs the benefit of the doubt and believe that they are merely incompetent.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

MpeachW @ 8:35— we do have some very sad, mad trolls who dump on this blog everyday.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

But Bethell’s book has 13 other chapters, each exploding the phony “science” behind some other liberal shibboleth. Think nuclear power is dangerous? By artfully playing on the confusion between nuclear power and nuclear weapons, activists have crippled the use of “the safest of all energy sources,” and vastly increased the use of heavily polluting coal-fired power plants (Chapter 2). Worried about DDT thinning the shells of endangered eagles? It doesn’t — but a million people a year are dying of malaria in Africa alone for lack of it (Chapter 5). Convinced that the theory of evolution is essentially sound, and that critics of it are just wacky creationists? The truth seems to be that the origins of species are far more complex than simplistic Darwinists will admit (Chapter 14).

Buy the book.

Expose the rot.

Vote them out of office.

Make America great again, fly a flag, upset a liberal.

You know what I mean?

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By gttim

May 17, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Seriously though do you think he stays up all night writing this crap and watches the clock? Then right at 8:00 he furiously starts cutting a pasting.

Yeah. He is the old bitter guy without a life. He should have his own blog somewhere, but nobody would read his rantings. I suspect nobody reads his rantings hear either.

Mike, you nailed that one. When the eleven GOP congressmen met with Bush to discuss Iraq with him, I remember thinking, “Yeah, but they will still fall inline for any vote.” They did. The GOP votes like a pack of lemmings, doing what they are told to from above.

By DebbieDoRight

May 17, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

[[SO, do most Americans reject Bush & Cheney because they believe them to be haters of America, or could it be that they’ve shown themselves to be incompetent in management and leadership?]]

Both. Also you can throw in a hypocritical, egomanical, bunch of backstabbers! They only care about themselves and their pockets.

By A-Train

May 17, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull, since when did a strategic withdrawal become “surrendering to the enemy” ???

And did you even notice that our government has become more of an empire because Bush and Cheney are afraid of losing control? You basically come to this site day after day supporting the end of democracy as we know it. You should be ashamed.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

BINGO.

Moreover, the radical left is also still willing to make alliances with anyone who can further their goals of destroying both objects of their animosity, a tradition stretching back to Lenin. And while Marx, author of the famous words ‘religion is the opiate of the people’, would probably never have advocated an alliance with Islam, his modern followers see a staunch ally in Muslim radicals, since both sets of extremists share a rabid hatred of the United States.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

HERE”S THE UNIT FOR LUCKODULL, BUY DANISH, @@, RW, DUSTY, ETC

we salute the doughboys and girls of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders who, when they don’t rush to the emergency room with a splinter in their fingers or faint at the sight of an ingrown hair, fight valiantly until death or dinner (whichever comes first) to achieve victory in Iraq. Full of advice and other waste material, they patrol the perilous frontlines of the media, sparring with the the fifth columnists in an effort to keep America safe.

THE 101ST FIGHTING KEYBOADERS

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

I love this:

{{{By MpeachW May 17, 2007 8:35 AM Seriously though do you think he stays up all night writing this crap and watches the clock? Then right at 8:00 he furiously starts cutting a pasting.}}}

Unlike the majority of sniveling Coward liberals in the world, who guide themselves through life riding a wave of stupid mindless emotions, I choose to be informed and base my decisions on the facts.

To achieve this understanding of the truth, I get out of bed early, I’ve missed only a few sunrises in my life, and read every single solitary competent opinion and/or news source that I can find.

Some people smoke pot or drink large amounts of alcohol for “fun,” I get off on deconstructing all of the harmful ideas that liberals have for America.

Why, you ask?

Without this country we have nothing, you stupid goonies may be too dense to think that through, but I’m not. You owe everything you have to our Founding Fathers and their brilliant understanding of the dangers of government and the Brave Soldiers who have given their lives to protect this great nation.

I am thoroughly convinced, see 8:29 for a perfect example, that liberals want to end this country and turn it into some socialist paradise.

During these few hours that I spend sorting through the BS, propaganda and getting to the facts, I cut and paste some of the more enlightening or hard hitting excerpts of what I see and compile them for the opening of the blog.

I know that some people enjoy reading them, some people learn and most importantly of all, it pis-ses off you sniveling Coward liberals.

Plus it helps that I am not a stupid slobbering partisan goonie like MpeachW must be, overwhelmed by the mountain of information trying to penetrate it’s thick, empty, clueless skull.

Typing up a few paragraphs is not the daunting, murderous task for me that it must be for you clown pinko®s.

Geez.

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By Brian Curtis

May 17, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

So, just to boil it down for everyone: Yes, this blog IS DullAndy’s life. He spends hours every day scouring TownHall, FreeRepublic, LGF, and other “unbiased” sources to get the hard-hitting lies he needs to prop up his unbelievably stupid gibberish.

And that’s all that matters in his sad, pathetic little loonie life. How sad that a disgusting little cowardly America-hater like DullAndy still can’t find a better way to live his life.

Oh well, better he be spewing his perverted idiocy here than setting policy or doing something REALLY harmful to this nation.

By Observer

May 17, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Okay Mikey, another tasteless cartoon by an oft praised hack who wins prizes although he deserves them not and has, like most liberals, never really earned anything on actual merit! I watch every day as students refuse to even stand for the pledge of allegiance and NEVER say it. They say that is their right. Well it is. That should be the first clue to their misguided and misbegotten parent(s) that this is precisely why they should say it. No one is sent to jail in this country for failing to pledge allegiance to the flag and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, yet they will be the first to tell me that I must comply with their politically correct speech and perverted view of the world or else I am a barbarian unfit to even live here. Go take a swim in cement overshoes!

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

And Brian, the trajic thing here is that the gimped up little pervert gets to sit around 24/7 filling space with his illiterate garbage on the taxpayers dime. With all of his various afflictions and “disabilities” there is no doubt that he is on every government program that exists to keep his sorry azz alive.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

[Real men of courage take the mockery sitting down to type furiously] (http://pandagon.net/2006/04/28/real-men-of-courage-take-the-mockery-sitting-down-to-type-furiously/)

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Say what you want about Andy’s sources and commitment to the issues. You can’t deny that he brings sources for discussion while the vast majority of his detractors do nothing but…well detract. Of course I guess that’s because you’re incapable of disputing the information he cites or the commentary he adds. It isn’t lost on the silent readers that you never once try to point out the flaws in what he posts, you simply call them flawed and run out for your next batch of government cheese.

If you truly hate being bombarded with opinion columns, why do you cheerlead like a bunch of preteen girls for IN THE NEWS?

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Two out of three posts have disappeared already. Let’s try one of them again:

{{{since when did a strategic withdrawal become “surrendering to the enemy” ???}})

A$$-Train,

This answers your question:

“The Democrats’ Plan to Demoralize Our Troops”

Because the Democrats are forcing an end to the struggle in Iraq, we must now prepare to fight terrorism in our homeland for the next 30 or more years. This is a war of civilizations. The Islamic terrorists worldwide want to destroy the U.S. and every other Western nation, along with moderate Muslim nations, e.g., Egypt, Jordan, etc. Our very survival as a nation is involved. Will we have the courage and will to do all that will be necessary to prevail?… During the Cold War the pols in Washington were mostly united in support of this goal. But now the Democrats are not. There is no safety for the weak and foolish. When you seek to end a war without substantially achieving your essential goals by simply ceasing to fight, it is often a form of surrender. And that’s the way the Democrat-imposed outcome in Iraq will be understood around the world, especially by our enemies.

And this^^was written by a Democrat.

By candide

May 17, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Jerry Falwell is proof that men are descended from apes.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

A-Train,

Please define strategic withdrawal with special emphasis on what the strategy is and then we’ll decide if it’s a surrender or not.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

{{{By Brian Curtis May 17, 2007 9:18 AM So, just to boil it down for everyone: Yes, this blog IS DullAndy’s life.}}}

Years ago, when Mike Luckovich was applying for a Visa to enter the United States and escape the persecution in his home country, I was reading National Review, the Wall Street Journal and all the other Conservative content, the same as I do today.

I’ve been informed my whole life, I voted for Reagan, it wasn’t a hard decision, who needs gas lines?

Cutting and pasting a few articles adds only a minuscule amount of time into my normal everyday routine.

How much time do you spend viewing pornography, Brian?

I don’t have that problem.

The AJC brought this blog into existence with the stupid mis understanding that this would be a great forum to showcase the superiority of it’s socialist viewpoint.

What a big fat mistake that was.

What they have done, totally unforeseen, is given me the opportunity to 1) provide an opposing viewpoint THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE NOT ALLOW IN THEIR PARTISAN BIASED RAG OF A “NEWS” PAPER, 2) pis-s you liberals off.

Any other questions?

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By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

When Anerica needed them, they were there. They had courage. They had honor. And a lot of spare time

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Just in case you corny little pinkos are wondering, I’m fixing to read George Will “Gas Pump Posturing.”

I’ll keep you posted on any new developments, that’s for sure.

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By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

Real men of courage take the mockery sitting down to type furiously

YEP POSTS ARE TOUGH TODAY….

By Paul

May 17, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Fifteen minutes have passed so I’ll try again.

Lots of comment over the past few days about how, even after five years, there’s still a diehard group of “true believers” in this country. This panel illustrates that people anywhere will believe anything.

Link:True Believers

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Luckojackass, until the proliferation of talking head radio you probably didn’t absorb anything more than a Dick and Jane reader. If it weren’t for Google, Wikipedia, and Rush, you still would be incapable of forming a cognitive thought. Get off your sorry pitiful on the dole azz Luckodumb and get a job. The taxpayers of this country shouldn’t have to pay for your 24/7 blogging addiction.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

RW,

Case in point, we have Brainless Curtis lying (and speaking gibberish) as he charges that LuckoDull prints “lies” (and writes gibberish).

Here’s the other post that didn’t make it -

IN THE NEWS,

Your 8:49 link to an idiotic blog post illustrates how pitiful your attempts at actual “commentary” are.

That post has the audacity to mention Winston Churchill, but it is really Neville Chamberlain that inspires it, and the end result is nothing but nonsense.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Are these quotes attributed to Falwell or Hitler? The answers might surprise you.

My feelings as a Christian point me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.

This ‘turn the other cheek’ business is all well and good but it’s not what Jesus fought and died for.

By English Tea

May 17, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Luckodull, how do you feel about the Irgan and the Stern Gang?

By JNH

May 17, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Okay Mikey, another tasteless cartoon by an oft praised hack who wins prizes although he deserves them not and has, like most liberals, never really earned anything on actual merit! 9:21AM

WHAT? NEVER EARNED ANYTHING ON MERIT? HUH? SOUNDS LIKE OUR PRESIDENT. WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE COUNTRY!!!

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Ed Koch is another Bush-kissing, deluded American. Like other Bush-kissers, he fails to acknowledge that it’s not just the Dems who know that our military has done their jobs in Iraq already and should be brought home pronto…

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

“No kidding — we mean it!”

Unlike most candidates who compete at the national level, Gingrich just doesn’t inspire a lot of personal loyalty and gratitude. That’s why it wasn’t much of a surprise to see him bounced out of the speaker’s chair by his fellow Republicans in 1999, not quite four years after he led them to a majority.

Another reason why the ‘08 elections will be so interesting and entertaining!

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I posted this the other day, but I’ll post it again as your cartoon could be an illustration for it. The L.A. Times link is not working, so I’m posting the column via a blog.

Just How Crazy are the Dems?

By getalife

May 17, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

A large and growing number of Americans are asking out loud: “What has happened to our country?” People are trying to figure out what has gone wrong in our democracy, and how we can fix it. — By Al Gore.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

CHEERLEADER?????

By georgia 74

May 17, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Jump Andi jump, put your fire proof suit on and join Jerry.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Thought-provoking article. I’ve written before there’s usually a hard core of 25 percent or so who will hold to most anything - Watergate was a setup and Nixon was a victim, etc. It often holds true as time passes and history is rewritten (those who avoided the draft in VietNam were unpatriotic, for example). Many portray “their” group as clearheaded while it’s the “others” who can’t see “truth.” This 9/11 conspiracy thing is particularly interesting, as many Democrats portray themselves as open-minded, educated seekers of truth while Republicans are Neanderthals (sorry, Geico).

That article you cited probably has merit.

BTW - I did not see the last Rep debate, did see several comments here about the network split. This link is a good video comparison of the service MSNBC vs FOX brings to the electorate. I did notice none of the MSNBC questions to the Democratic candidates were along the lines of “what do you most hate about America” or “would it be good for America for a Mormon to win.”

I’d be glad to read any reasoned analysis of the video - but I’ll probably read a few of the “normal” response/attacks as well.

Link:MSNBC vs FOX Debate Comparison

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

How good it is this morning to read some comments not filled with hate and twisted interpretations.

I commend Luckodull for giving us a great review of the best morning news commentaries. He picks the best.

Buy Danish consistently gives us links that explain and expand on her excellent and logical thoughts.

RW explains the value of good opinions like Luckodull’s and does it without hate and contempt.

And “Hooray” for Paul who links us to a delightful “donkey” cartoon that is far superior to all the dishonest propaganda that Luckovich produces. The cartoon artist Ramirez knows how to make a good point combined with artistic talent.

Going to be a good blog day at the Lucko Corral.

By bon scott

May 17, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

[[By RW-(the original) - May 17, 2007 9:27 AM - Say what you want about Andy’s sources and commitment to the issues. You can’t deny that he brings sources for discussion while the vast majority of his detractors do nothing but…well detract]]

Ummmm… maybe you haven’t noticed lately, but Andy doesn’t even bother to source his “material” anymore.

And posting unsubstantiated right-wing rants here is about as effective as wearing a Klan hood to a “black power” rally. He agitates those he wishes to convert, when they’re not ignoring him.

He’d be much more useful to his cause if he volunteered for phone bank or door to door work for his beloved conservatives.

Of course, perhaps he’s not exaggerrating when he says one of his main goals is ticking “liberals” off. This represents the mind of a child. He’s not interested in changing peoples minds. He just wants to start a schoolyard ruckus.

Pathetic.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Can you imagine? Falwell says that AIDS is God’s punishment on gay people and that gays and lesbians are responsible for a terrorist bombing by other people who hate gays and lesbians - and people think he’s a bigot! He supported segregation, referred to the push for equality as the “Civil Wrongs Movement” and praised Lester Maddox and George Wallace - and people think he’s a bigot! He called Bishop Desmond Tutu a fraud - and people think he’s a bigot! He says that feminists “need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home” - and people think he’s a bigot! I can’t imagine how anyone would ever get the idea that Falwell was a bigot, can you?

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Hahahaha:

“Dems are very in right now, but there’s only so much party affiliation can do for a guy who drives a Prius,” said Cutler, who is visiting Manhattan this week for her birthday and still has no job. Toyota’s hybrid model, Cutler says, is hardly the sex-mobile.

Hence the pornography.

And a few other, uh, options.

Geez.

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By Cindy

May 17, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Hmmm. I wonder how the question to that poll was asked. Did the administration have information of a planned attack on the US possibly using airplanes? YES. Did he know the details? I don’t think even bush is that low, although he has used the tragedy time and again to ride the waves of popularity.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Bon Scott - I believe you’ve hit the nail squarely on the head.

By Another Bush Kisser

May 17, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Hillary won’t commit on Iraq Deadline

By Truthsayer

May 17, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

I’m just passing through, but Dusty and Buy Danish, you are still voices of reason in an ocean of irrationality. Keep up the good fight even though it might seem useless at times. Remember, the liberals always imagine themselves in the majority even when (as in 1994) they manifestly have proven that they are not. Even though the Demoncrats won the 2006 elections by false advertising and outright lies in certain contests, they are now shown to be at a nadir in public approval because of their misguided and utterly indefendable leadership in Congress by two half-wits (one of whom I know from my days in California). Good luck and by for now.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

GoldieDhimmi,

What Democrat said this?

More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation. The children of Iraq are our children. You, the USA, together with the Saudi regime are responsible for the shedding of the blood of these innocent children.

Paul,

The poll stated that “thirty-five percent of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know and 26% are not sure.”

When you add up the two groups of Democrats it adds up to a whopping 61% who believe or are inclined to believe the Truthers, so in retrospect, just focusing on the donkey’s a* doesn’t capture the full picture.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Looks like Truthsayer is on his way to be fitted for a straitjacket. That post was utterly insane.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

MpeachW 10;14

NPR’s Diane Rehm show is having a discussion about the Religious Right’s history in the Republican Party and its likely future. Good discussion of fundamentalists vs evangelicals and where Falwell fit in. Without going on a point by point several of the comments you cited were not quite accurate, according to the panel.

I believe you can link to listen to the program from the beginning, not just in-progress.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

finch,

I fully understand that a thoughtful article that comes at you from a center right point of view isn’t going to convince YOU of anything. Perhaps one day you’ll attempt to show why his articles are wrong instead of demagoguing them.

I also wish he would source them, but they aren’t difficult to find. I suspect you don’t try because it gives you an easy hide out.

Whine away bonnie, I’ll check back at Happy Hour to see your latest words of wis…..drivel.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Speaking of schoolyard taunts - what’s with the wingers making up little names for their opposition?

Does it make them feel clever?

By The Watcher

May 17, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Silly Republicans.

If folks think Bush may have known about 9/11 or that we don’t know the whole story….it’s because Bush has lost all credibilty. DUH.

We don’t believe Bush.

We don’t trust Bush.

He has earned our questioning disdain.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

Here you go - the Rassmussen Poll.

22% Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 Attacks in Advance

I don’t blame you for being embarrassed.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Jon breaks down the destroy our country party’s debate

By reebok

May 17, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Lazy cartoon. You don’t like Bush, Cheney, the war, the incompetence of the administration, the lies, the abuse of power, etc. Big whoop. Nobody else likes them either. A generic “GOP is bad” cartoon is unworthy of a 2-time Pulitzer winner.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

MpeachW,

It’s called “poetic license” and we use it as a form of editorializing.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Cindy 10:15

The Rasmussen web site did not list (that I could find) the question - it did say further information was avaliable to premium members. But from the way they presented the findings (“on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance”) it seems the question was phrased specifically regarding foreknowledge of the 9/11 attack, not an intelligence warning of a possible future attack in America.

By Yada Yada Yada

May 17, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull, I get the impression that you might have some issues. Perhaps therapy might be helpful.

You might even consider just going out and taking a walk down a hiking trail on a pretty day.

Make some friends and meet them to sit around and have some coffee (decaffinated)and laugh at the world and the folks in it, including yourself.

None of us is perfect, or has to be. Many of us know we cannot change the world and have difficulty just changing ourselves. We simply try to get by as best as we can.

We are all going to be dead anyway in a matter of years and then what will all of that intense emotion really mean? Life is short, so lighten up and chill out and enjoy it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By Jesun

May 17, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Rasmussen quotes the exact questions in the left hand column.

Did Bush Know About the 9/11 Attacks in Advance?

By Shawny

May 17, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Here we go.

Game on. This should prove entertaining.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

A song writer may say something that is gramatically incorrect, but sounds poetic. He is exercising his poetic license.

GoldieDhimmi is a childish schoolyard taunt.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

I don’t blame the Bush-kissing trolls for embarassing themselves everyday… in a very strange way they are increasing their visibility to the saner 70% of America and will ultimately bring on their own political demise.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Yada Yada Yada,

In addition to the symbolism of your name, thanks for so concisely summing up the irresponsible “don’t worry, be happy” leftist mindset:

{{{None of us is perfect, or has to be. Many of us know we cannot change the world and have difficulty just changing ourselves. We simply try to get by as best as we can.//We are all going to be dead anyway in a matter of years and then what will all of that intense emotion really mean? Life is short, so lighten up and chill out and enjoy it.}}}

Can you imagine if our Founding Fathers had that attitude?

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Before the DaVinci code, Dan Brown wrote a novel “Angels & Demons”. As I watched the administration’s use of the 9/11 tragedy over the years, I often think of the parallel with that book. Although I doubt that he had detailed knowledge, it is obvious that he played on Americans’ fears to maintain his political position. That defines his reprehensible character.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

A big reason why the flat-earthers should be embarassed for the Repugnant Party:

We are today missing church leadership that recognizes the Bible as the absolute authority.

I don’t blame you for being embarassed by your party dictators.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

MpeachW,

What do you think your pseudonym is you freaking jackass if not a childish “taunt”?

I made a point that Goldie is a Dhimmicrat who is a candidate for Dhimmitude but you are too dim to get it.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

A song writer may say something that is gramatically incorrect, but sounds poetic. He is exercising his poetic license.

GoldieDhimmi is a childish schoolyard taunt.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish 10:41

Yikes! Thanks for the link - the mindset (I use “mind” quite loosely, here) is pretty frightening.

Given the numbers, I’d have expected someone here to have come up with some sources for their beliefs - other than they don’t trust Pres Bush over Iraq. That’s pretty far from asserting large portions of the Executive had knowledge in advance of an attack that killed thousands but took no action.

I hope this isn’t a case of “I have heartfelt beliefs that transcend facts” - rather ironic, given many (Democrats and others, here) disdain for people of religion, creationists, etc., don’t you think?

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

{{{By Yada Yada Yada May 17, 2007 10:38 AM You might even consider just going out and taking a walk down a hiking trail on a pretty day.}}}

Thanks for your concern but, um, I don’t run with the herd.

I’ve got an IBM Thinkpad with wireless Internet access (“welfare” has been very, very good to me) and I spend most of my time outside anyway.

If I’m gonna hike down any trails, it will be a buck trail, where I will look for horned bushes and rubs upon which I will put my climber in the nearest Oak or maybe Hickory.

It is about time for the summer food plot, anyway.

Or maybe later I’ll take my Ranger™ to the lake and burn a massive amount of fossil fuel getting to my favorite fishing hole.

I will check the blog every once in a while to see what nonsense you liberals have posted.

And then pis-s you off in my own special way.

See ya.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - I never said I didn’t get it. I just feel it’s a childish taunt. Freaking jackass? Is name calling all you can resort to? How sad.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

The Dhimmicrat’s Dictionary:

poetic license: n.

The liberty taken by an artist or a writer in deviating from conventional form or fact to achieve a desired effect.

OR

license used by a writer or artist to heighten the effect of their work

Dhimmitude:

it represents a behavior dictated by fear (terrorism), pacifism when aggressed, rather than resistance, servility because of cowardice and vulnerability

A short history lesson for the Dim:

{{The term (Dhimmitude) is said to have been invented in 1982 by the Lebanese Maronite militia leader Bachir Gemayel, in reference to perceived attempts by the country’s Muslim leadership to subordinate the large Lebanese Christian minority. In a speech of September 14, 1982 given at Dayr al-Salib in Lebanon, he said: “Lebanon is our homeland and will remain a homeland for Christians … We want to continue to christen, to celebrate our rites and traditions, our faith and our creed whenever we wish … Henceforth, we refuse to live in any dhimmitude! Gemayel was assassinated shortly after he gave the speech.}}

By Paul

May 17, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Goldie

You may want to listen in on the NPR show I referenced - lots of disagreement and dislike between evangelicals and fundamentalists. It seems many confuse the two groups and their positions (I certainly was not “up” on the differences) - rather like someone outside the US looking in at our political system and making no distinction between Democrats and Republicans.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Cindy - After reading The Da Vinci Code I read Angels & Demons. Pretty darn good story. Your observation is right on the money.

Now I’m backtracking and reading Deception Point. He seems to hit the nail on the political head. It’s frightening what politicians are capable of. Even more frightening that most of the American people don’t know (or look the other way).

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

So what is the “desired effect” of referring to Goldie a GoldieDhimmi?

By Shawny

May 17, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

I don’t watch the Communist Broadcasting System that much, but this toon is pretty good regarding their news ratings performance.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

MpeachW,

As long as you continue to call yourself “MpeachW” and never complain about the obscene rants of people like DawgBite, I will continue to call you a freaking jackass.

btw, if that makes you “sad” then you are ill equipped to handle grief.

Boo Hoo.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Wow. Look at these Dhimmicrats Cindy and MpeachW talking about a novel as if it were reality.

I bet you believe the Da Vinci Code is the Gospel Truth too.

Pathetic.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

{{{By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

So what is the “desired effect” of referring to Goldie a GoldieDhimmi?}}}

Rotten Peach,

I have explained it no less than 2 times now, @ 10:47 and 10:55.

You are not smarter than a 5th Grader, that’s for sure.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - of course it’s not reality. Only a fool would assume that two people talking about literature would believe that.

Sometimes fiction mirrors reality and vice versa. but I’m sure I don’t have to explain that to you.

I’m sure you’ve read a book or two in your time.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

MpeachW,

Great name. I’m a big fan!

Buy Danish,

I wouldn’t talk about what people believe in given that you choose to blatantly disregard scientific facts.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - reread my statement. I said “how sad” not “it makes me sad”. Comprehension is an important part of reading.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

TWO MORE REPUBLICANS CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF ALBERTO GONZALES!

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - I see you are merely trying to anger me with your childishness. Rotten Peach?! Rather juvenile wouldn’t you say? Next you’ll say I’m ugly and that your father can beat up my father.

Seriously - what you seem to regard as debate is nothing more than a schoolyard scuffle.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Thanks steve-o. I like your style as well.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Rotten Peach,

Well gosh, don’t things that are sad make you sad?

Do you still need help with “GoldieDhimmi” or has that finally registered?

steve-o,

Because I challenge the uncredentialed Goreacle’s idiotic fairy tales doesn’t mean that I ignore scientific fact.

Among the numerous scientific sources that I use for my views on Global Warming “science”, I trust the “Father of Climatology”:

Reid A. Bryson holds the 30th PhD in Meteorology granted in the history of American education. Emeritus Professor and founding chairman of the University of Wisconsin Department of Meteorology—now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences—in the 1970s he became the first director of what’s now the UW’s Gaylord Nelson Institute of Environmental Studies. He’s a member of the United Nations Global 500 Roll of Honor—created, the U.N. says, to recognize “outstanding achievements in the protection and improvement of the environment.” He has authored five books and more than 230 other publications and was identified by the British Institute of Geographers as the most frequently cited climatologist in the world.

“All this argument is the temperature going up or not, it’s absurd,” Bryson continues. “Of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide into the air.”

You on the other hand must be firmly in the flatulent livestock camp of true believers.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

MpeachW, That is the job of trolls. I don’t believe anything from any of them anymore. I used to actually consider some of the garbage they posted, but I refuse to be taken in by their propaganda.

Years ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. I saw the link between how Hitler gained Germany and bush suckered the American people. It isn’t all fiction.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

{{{Next you’ll say I’m ugly and that your father can beat up my father.}}}

Rotten Peach,

No, that is the precisely the sort of thing that your comrades say about me - only much milder.

You know, you may want to just read this blog for a few more weeks and get a sense of who the regulars are before you sling your arrows in my direction over “name calling”.

They aren’t hitting their mark and you are wasting a lot of energy that you should be conserving for your carbon footprint.

By @@

May 17, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Well alrighty ml; today’s toon is very germane or at least it has been since 1822 is it?

DEMOCRACY RULES…but the democrats can’t.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Ahhh democracy at it’s finest

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Listen to Cindy.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

When have you EVER posted a fact or used a fact based argument to substantiate your loony views.

All you do is babble incoherently about Bush Hitler and other fictions and expect us to be impressed with your scholarship.

For instance, Conservatives are steadfastly on the side of Israel, so for you to make the intellectually vacuous leap that we emulate Hitler in any way (who was also a committed Darwiniac, but I digress) just illustrates who illogical and juvenile your “arguments” are.

I on the other hand can make all sorts of credible arguments that the Left emulate Stalin.

Later…

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - I was referring to the unprovoked name calling you threw my way.

I have control over anyone else here but I will refrain from childish name calling myself. It does no one any good and surely doesn’t bolster your argument.

The poetic license you speak of is merely another form of name calling. Rotten Peach? What “desired effect” were you going for with that one?

By rushncap

May 17, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Great ‘toon as usual, Mike. The Republican pledge, indeed. You could stick @@, Muffin, Stalker, Dusty etc in that toon as well, without any loss of generality.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Cindy 11:21

Only a couple years left in his term, so I’m not too concerned about any kind of a takeover. If anything, people are more on guard now.

What concerns me more are the actions of the House Majority Leader to stifle dissent - the latest being doing away with House rules to limit the minority’s right to offer motions to recommit bills back to committee — violating a protection that has been in place since 1822.

It was bad enough when Republicans did it. But then comes a Democratic majority with new commitments to the voters, they find themselves getting outmaneuvered procedurally (Sen Byrd must find some humor in it) so the Majority Party changes the rules again. Tom DeLay would be proud. Just another example of emulating the worst rather than sticking to principles.

So stipulating to your point about the Executive, it seems to me there’s more long-term danger for freedom, dissent, political opposition and protecting the rights of the minority if the Legislative Branch keeps on this course.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

BD, I always use facts. As I explained to you before, many are based in experience. I would encourage you to walk through the Holocaust Museum and see for yourself how bush borrowed hitler’s tactics.

When people are educated they learn to use several sources to reach the truth or form ideas. I am not writing a disertation here, nor do I usually parrot somebody else’s work.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Offering another sign that the administration plans to continue its escalation of the war in Iraq into 2008, U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus now says that he will not have “anything definitive” to say about the war in his September review.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Rudy Giuliani v. Ron Paul, and Reality

By @@

May 17, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Fred Thompson is not returning to “Law & Order”. Well not the television version anyway.

Giuliani and Thompson get constitutionality and federalism right

(((What we want is the right to control these issues in the states in which we live. What we want is the right to advocate that other states, states which have gone astray, see the error of their ways and move back to moral decency. That is a battle that social conservatives must make and we can only do that effectively when we get Supreme Court justices who will devolve those issues back to state governments and who will stop inventing constitutional rights that trump states’ rights.)))

(((Why is this issue so confusing? Why did the answers that Rudy and Fred gave seem evasive or confusing? It is because generations of Americans have been led to believe that every social issue is national, is constitutional and is judicial. Both these gentlemen wisely understand the true nature of the problem.)))

BRING IT HOME BOYS!!!!!!!

Thompson is polling second behind Giuliani.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Ron Paul Leads FoxNews May 15 2007 Polls

By getalife

May 17, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

And now the other side of Paul’s lame argument:

“During the 110th Congress, Republicans have repeatedly attempted to use motions to recommit with instructions to kill bills on the verge of passage. The strategy is to institute a divisive change to the bill at the last moment, often unrelated to the original intent of the legislation, hoping that the altered bill can then be defeated on final passage.”

Hence, the Dem procedural change to stop the obstructionism.

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish, I write and behave as I do as kind of a counterstrike and quid pro quo for the behavior of you right wing denizens of the deep. I try to use the same logic, the same nastiness, and the same out and out vile that you spew here everyday to those who dare to disagree with your dark worldviews and totalitarian/neo nazis desires for those of us that will not nor ever will allow you wannabe Hitlers to EVER EVER have a voice in this country again. You right wingers are the gravest threat to freedom and individual liberty that has ever faced this country. You will be eradicated at the polls. And the beautiful thing is that people like you, Buy Danish, Luckodumb/Andy, RW, Dusty and those of that ilk have brought about your own minimalization. You are ambassadors to your own annihilation.

But on another note Buy Danish, it is Thursday. You turn lots of tricks on Thursday and Friday do you not? The guys in your trailer park all get paid. And they know where to spend that wage don’t they, Buy Danish. Do they all get it teeth out?

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Boobs: Close. It is: BRING THE BOYS HOME!

By GMan

May 17, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Repugs are incompetent and they love only themselves PERIOD!

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Need an Introduction to Fred Thompson?

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I can’t spend much time here today but you have already made me laugh. OH “the flatulent livestock camp of true believers” !! What a description!!

But then, poor simpleton Cindy (11:12) could not visit the Holocaust Museum without comparing Hitler to Bush. That is really one sad case of brain washing or brain lacking. It seems to reflect a total absence of appreciation for the American way of life.

Making a point about your disagreement with President Bush is one thing. Comparing him to Hitler is another. The last is despicable.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Yes, Ron Paul is shaking the foundation of the destroy our country party, docp, if you will.

Too bad they did not ask him about his position on impeaching the admin. for the North American Union .

Well done sir.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Dusty, the truth is often harsh.

By Truthsayer

May 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Cindy - you are either fooling yourself or you are one. I too have been to several Holocaust Museums and I have never seen any evidence that Bush has used any of Hitler’s methods at any time. He has not targeted entire ethnic groups for “resettlement” or extermination. He has not placed political enemies in prisons. He has not repressed freedom of speech. Your being on this blog is evidence enough of that. The only 20th century president who could even remotely fit into that discription is Franklin Roosevelt, and I think that one would be pushing on that - except the Japanese Americans forced into concentration camps might disagree. It really would behoove you to back you accusations up with facts rather than just making them and saying it is “opinion and experience”. Shame on you!

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

I seem to remember the Republicans attempting to change a few rules while they were in power as well. Like discontinuing filibusters, etc.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

You always use “facts”? Like when?

Why don’t you tell us how “Bush used Hitler’s tactics”? I’m not interested in your opinion this time, just the “facts” m’aam as provided by the Holocaust Museum.

I’ll check in later as I come and go.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Poor Little Ms. Cindy doesn’t realize that her unhinged opinions are not facts. I find it highly unlikely that the Holocaust Museum provides “facts” that substantiate her claim that Bush uses Hitler’s tactics, unless the museum has been taken over by Hamas or the PLO.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

bush has not been able to get away with the extremes of hitler, but he tried. You obviously have never had your job threatened for political belief.

By Truthsayer

May 17, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

MpeachW - half truths are really worse than lies. The Republicans did not try to end filibusters. They did try to end filibusters on presidential nominees - a very different thing. Try to get the facts right or at least tell the whole story. I don’t like that tactic when Republicans use it either. It is cheap and dirty and unworthy of anyone who wishes to be taken seriously.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Paul, I don’t disagree with what you are saying. I’ve never been a strong supporter of the Congressional games and in the last several years have always voted against the incumbent, although that is scary too because we could end up with another Newt. There are a few good people there, but too much is in the politics rather than the good of the country. However, there are so many, there is usually some sanity. Until this administration the extemists of both sides provided entertainment more than control. Yes, the Americans have shown they saw through bush’s tactics. And my husband assured me that the bush could not gain control of the military like hitler because most of them believe in country and constitution first.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

getalife 10:57

One person’s “obstructionism” is another person’s right of free speech and fighting for his/her position. You’ve described procedures that have been in place in Congress for nearly 200 years. They’ve been available to members of both parties, who have availed themselves of them. Now comes a group in the Majority who want to kill time-honored rules. I seem to recall loud howls when Republicans tried similar actions.

My point was not if the reason to stifle dissent was “good enough” - the excuse really doesn’t matter. That’s the Gonzalez argument. The fact it would be tried at all is of concern. When the best Democrats can do is emulate the worst characteristics of a Republican who was forced to leave (DeLay) - well, it doesn’t say much for the “Party of Change.”

Maybe if the Speaker tried a little leadership - you know, what’s her phrase? “Talk to them” - maybe take a little trip (across the aisle) she could restore peace to the Congress?

By Truthsayer

May 17, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

MpeachW - in fact they did not try to end any filibuster, it was just a threat which the Demoncrats were never willing to allow to happen. Remember the gang of 14? I also do remember that Democrat Senators Harkin and Conrad did propose ending all filibusters in 1995 right after the Republicans took power, hoping to use the change to their advantage after they took back control. The Republicans wisely did not take the bait.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Cindy: A close friend who fought in North Africa, Italy and France in WWII said in 2003: “Now, I know how Hitler did it”. The republicans have us frightened enough. Yet the commonalities are there: SA/Blackwater, The Big Lie, Controlled Media, Staged Political Events (I.e. no real debate), Lie to go to war (9/1/39), Repeat the Lies, Demoinize your opponents. There is more.

By PatB

May 17, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Poor Little Ms. Cindy doesn’t realize that her unhinged opinions are not facts. I find it highly unlikely that the Holocaust Museum provides “facts” that substantiate her claim that Bush uses Hitler’s tactics, unless the museum has been taken over by Hamas or the PLO.

Or maybe taken over by the Irgun or Stern Gang, huh Buy Danish?

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife May 17, 2007 11:57 AM Hence, the Dem procedural change to stop the obstructionism.}}}

al-Gitmo: You can’t do no better the 20 hours in coming up with your democrat talking points?

You know there are freshness standards in play here.

Geez.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

(I’m eating some lunch right now, trusty laptop at my side, listening to Limbaugh. Would you sniveling Cowards like me to list my agenda for this afternnon?)

By Truthsayer

May 17, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Cindy - You are way off the mark on this one. I have had my job threatened because of my political beliefs in San Francisco! I also have a friend who was hounded out of a teaching job in a local system because he was a (gasp!) conservative! You are full of crap.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Cindy 12:12

LOL! In several elections I’ve voted a “straight ticket” - “ABI” (Anybody But the Incumbent).

Newt thinking he could run and win comes from political analysts who’ve spent far too much time within the Beltway who don’t realize the undercurrent for change in America. I believe that’s one of the main attractions of Sen Obama.

I believe your husband’s statement is spot on. Military swear their oath to the Constitution - not to a person or party. I believe I’ve read that during the darkest days of Watergate, when there was concern about Pres Nixon’s stability, that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff quietly spread the word that any questionable orders from the White House were to be routed through him as a safeguard.

By Amelia

May 17, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

A real party for change would be mainstream Americans from the center right over to the center left totally breaking with both the cons and rats. That is the change we need. Just leave those idiots on both wings to twist in the breeze. Imagine the right and left wings having to work together just to have any kind of voice against what we know is the vast majority in this country. The time has come for a “moderate party” Not Left. Not Right. Just moderate. It would be a force that could not be overcome by the nuts on either wing.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, At the time I worked for the executive branch. It was very heavyhanded.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

{{{I’m eating some lunch right now, trusty laptop at my side, listening to Limbaugh. Would you sniveling Cowards like me to list my agenda for this afternnon?}}}

LuckoDork,

Actually…we would like that. I think it would be interesting to see what an inverted troll like you fills his day with.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Watch C-Span and there is no talking to the other side.

Shutting down Congress might be a good thing.

At least the occupation would run out of money and the troops would come home.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

All: I thank God every day for our Democratic lead Congress. I fear had Rove won last November we would be at war with Iran today. We would know of none of the endemic corruption. We would know of none of the Bush lies that drug our nation into the Iraq War. Henry Waxman, Nancy Pelosi, Russ Feingold, John Conyers are all great Americans! Congress is not perfect. 70% of America and most of the world are indebted to our Great Democratic Congress!

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Cindy @ 12:04

Yes,the truth is harsh. Is that why you avoid it so often?

You don’t seem to see the damage you do to this country with your thoughtless statements. We are at war, Cindy, whether you turned against it or not.

Just whom do you want to win this war? I said “win”, not retreat. It is getting very hard to tell just whom liberals like you support while our troops are off sacrificing their lives. Yes, for us.

Would you prefer Osama just because he is not President Bush?

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

NBC’s Kelly O’Donnell pressed Bush on this point. “Sir, did you send your then Chief of Staff and White House Counsel to the bedside of John Ashcroft while he was ill to get him to approve that program,” she asked, “and do you believe that kind of conduct from White House officials is appropriate?”

By getalife

May 17, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Oh goodie, Andy will spew some cult leader talking points.

How high is he today Andy?

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Vote by vote, Democrats are forcing their fellow party members as well as Republicans to choose whether to stand by the Bush administration, and potentially face a voter backlash next year at the polls, or join them in beginning to draw down troops.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Two people were killed in mortar attacks on Baghdad’s heavily fortified Green Zone on Wednesday, the second serious attack in two days, as a search for three U.S. soldiers held by al Qaeda south of the capital intensified.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Either that or he’s fantasizing about speaking into Rush’s “golden mic”…

…made possible by excessive illegal doses of Viagra of course.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

All signs point to a continuing, concentrated GOP campaign to curtail voting rights, to intimidate impoverished and elderly citizens, to suppress voter turnout in minority neighborhoods that would lean Democratic, to take control of who gets to vote. Hence the upswing in punitive state voter-ID laws, attempts to restrict registration, purging of voter rolls, and other legislation allegedly aimed at quashing illegal voting. And the US attorney firings.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Thanks In the News,

That question by Kelly O’Donnell was very good and w dodged it.

I see blood in the water.

By @@

May 17, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS:

You should listen to your ——> Mother Jones errrr <—— (I’m resisting temptation on that one.)

(((For all of his charm and presence, Thompson is more than just a pretty face. Once people finish gushing over how genuine and friendly he is, they move on to terms like “smart,” “intelligent,” even “brilliant” (giving him a leg up on Reagan in the brains department). His professional reputation among lawyers and politicians alike is that of a sharp mind and quick wit.)))

I saw nothing in your link or the one within, that sets Thompson apart from your party’s H. Reed’s, D. Feinstein’s, or B. Boxer’s to name a few. That’s assuming that you wanted me to notice his time as a lobbyist.

By MM

May 17, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

The true axis of evil (Rove, Bush, Cheney) will insure that a republican will not occupy the white house after Bush.

Hopefully, someone of merit will enter the race as an independant. I think America is fed up with the bickering of the other 2 parties. I certainly am.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

He loves that oxy head cult leader, they all do.

I am waiting for him to get busted again because he is still using.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Instilling fear of a group Using patriotism as a personal tool to discourage freedom of speech Using conspiracies against the country as a political issue Appealing to feeling rather than common sense Obtaining power not rightfully his Purging certain nonpolitical positions to fill with political supporters

To list a few. It is better to see the similarities when reading the events in the museum.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

{{Just whom do you want to win this war? I said “win”, not retreat.}}

Don’t we just love to read the constant RAH-RAH-RAH-ING from these delusional trolls? And they love to use cheerleading terminology to boot!

“Push ‘em back, Push ‘em back, WAAAYYY BACK!”

“Our team is red-hot! Your team is all shot!”

“W-I-N! W-I-N! Go, Team, Go!”

See, that’s all it takes for us to “win” this war, yes? — that, and killing everyone still remaining in Iraq today, because if we don’t kill ‘em all, they’re sure gonna all become terrorists and follow us home!

RAH-RAH-RAH.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Novak: Former Rove aide seeks immunity to testify in House Abramoff probe

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

“Did Mr. Bush start by authorizing the agency to intercept domestic e-mails and telephone calls without first getting a warrant?”

By John Q. Public

May 17, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Impeachment

Indictment

Incarceration

By Ari

May 17, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Luckodull what is your opinion of the Irgun and Stern Gang?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

The whole thing is a crock of $hit. They act like this is WWII and everyone is kicking in for the war effort when nothing could be further from the truth. Trolls like Andy call people opposed to the Iraq war “cowards”, but he’s too pu$$y to enlist and fight over there himself.

The sad thing is that after 9/11, everybody here was willing to make sacrifices and throw in towards catching OBL and defeating Al Qaeda.

Then our yahoo child-king decides to embark on a Quixotic adventure to Iraq based on lies and half-truths. To top it off, no only does he say that Americans need not sacrifice anything for the war effort, he even gave tax cuts…DURING “war time”.

This is far from the stories that here of WWII with people wanting to save energy, people making career changes to fight the Nazis and Japanese, people buying war bonds, living on war rations, etc. I think these neoCONs have watched one war movie too many. They have no idea what the true nature of war is and for that the current admiistration is taking us straight to hell.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Musical Interlude

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Most Americans now understand that we’re asking our military to do a job in Iraq that is no longer their job to do:

BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 — A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers. In Baghdad, for example, nearly three-quarters of residents polled said they would feel safer if U.S. and other foreign forces left Iraq, with 65 percent of those asked favoring an immediate pullout, according to State Department polling results obtained by The Washington Post.

And this information is from our own State Dept. Where’s the sanity in the White House these days???

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS 12:46

As usual he never answers the question. he rambled on and on about everything EXCEPT whether or not he sent his Chief of Staff and his attorney to Ashcroft’s bedside.

By Jesus

May 17, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Midori

May 17, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Steve-o,

brava!!!

that 12:53 is most excellent!!

By getalife

May 17, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Check this out Jesus

Geez†

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

steve-0,

Your party has the power to end the war today. Why don’t you quit crying to us and tell them to get it done?

Cindy,

I can’t figure out if you’re more ignorant or more pathetic. Would you please show specific examples of what President Bush has done that makes him Hitler in your mind so I can decide.

I’ll check back at Happy Hour and let you know what I’ve decided.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

And what do our military persons serving in Iraq think about withdrawing? Let’s see:

WASHINGTON — Seventy-two percent of troops on the ground in Iraq think U.S. military forces should get out of the country within a year, according to a Zogby poll released Tuesday. The survey of 944 troops, conducted in Iraq between Jan. 18 and Feb. 14, said that only 23 percent of servicemembers thought U.S. forces should stay “as long as they are needed.”

SO what do you cheerleading trolls think of our military for having the audacity to voice their opinion about withdrawing from Iraq? Are they automatically “traitors” or “defeatocrats” according to your very narrow standards of citizenship? After all, what could they possibly KNOW about serving in Iraq that you and Oxycontin Limbaugh don’t know???

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

Midori,

What impressed you most about the 12:53, the ability to parrot the same old talking points, the rambling incoherence, or the near illiteracy demonstrated in the post?

By getalife

May 17, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

RW,

You know do not have the votes.

The Iraqis do but the government is collapsing.

I will be back after I score some weed.

Geez.

By Delusions of grandeur

May 17, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

“I can’t figure out if you’re more ignorant or more pathetic. Would you please show specific examples of what President Bush has done that makes him Hitler in your mind so I can decide.

I’ll check back at Happy Hour and let you know what I’ve decided.”

AS IF ANYONE REALLY GIVES A FLYING F@CK WHAT RW DECIDED! Now he thinks HE’S the decider.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Cheers,

RW,

Yes, the 12:53 post has a lot of typos. I really don’t give a damn. If I’m wrong, then what exactly have YOU done for the war effort? Please enlighten us. How have you considered towards the effort YOURSELF. Just what are you doing if you really believe in this “war”?

By Delusions of grandeur

May 17, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

RW has a ribbon magnet on his big-a$$ SUV. That’s what he’s done for the war effort.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Getalife @ 1:07 — great link!

ROFLMAO!

By Truthsayer

May 17, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Cindy - you just described yourself! Using emotion rather than common sense? Give me a break. Liberals don’t have any common sense to use, therefore, everything you do is based on emotion. However, you still do not give any specific examples. These are just vague accusations still. How has anyone’s freedom of speech been curtailed? Has anyone been placed in a prison because he/she is a dissenter? Has anyone been placed in prison JUST because he/she is of a particular religion or ethnic group?

By the way, the politician with the very worst record of appealing to emotions over common sense is running again in the guise of his (pseudo) wife.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

I’ll check back to see if RW has made his decision after I’ve cleaned out my Volvo.

By Delusions of grandeur

May 17, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

RW=Sydney Greenstreet Truthsayer=Peter Lorre

Can’t you just picture it? Truthsayer saying “Yes boss” after everything RW says.

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

By Delusions of grandeur

May 17, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

“I can’t figure out if you’re more ignorant or more pathetic. Would you please show specific examples of what President Bush has done that makes him Hitler in your mind so I can decide.

I’ll check back at Happy Hour and let you know what I’ve decided.”

AS IF ANYONE REALLY GIVES A FLYING F@CK WHAT RW DECIDED! Now he thinks HE’S the decider.

Down at the Gay bar he is.

By Volvo driving, latte drinking, sushi eating liberal

May 17, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Me thinks the hardly-ever-right wing bloggers doth complain too much:

It’s all about procedural votes and “the motion to recommit,” a tool that belongs to the minority party. To say I’m not a house parliamentary expert is an understatement, so please refer to the link. But it boils down to this. After a bill is read three times and before the speaker calls for a vote, the minority party can offer a “motion to recommit,” which allows them a last chance to amend or kill the bill (if you’re an expert on this stuff and have something further to offer on it, please put your two cents). But that’s basically what’s at the crux of this little republican tantrum. So, keeping that in mind…

By Midori

May 17, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Steve-o,

cut RW some slack; he’s behind his stalking quota today.

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Having fantasies again RW? Dreaming of all the little brown people calling you “boss” on your imaginary plantation?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

{{{How have you considered towards the effort YOURSELF.}}}

RW,

The question is: How have you contributed towards the effort YOURSELF?

Midori,

I think he misses his prey rushncap…

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Yes, Goldie, these trolls are so stupid. They assume that since I am against this troop slaughter they call a war that I support the other side. More bushy type propaganda.

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

RW is the prey steve-o.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

There is blood in the water and sharks are circling:

“Under FISA, spying on American citizens on American soil without a warrant is a felony. President Bush has been caught red-handed violating that law, and has even admitted as much. If there are no longer consequences for breaking the law, what has our country become?”

Impeach!

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Rotten Peach,

What do you think of this comment by Comrade DawgBite?: {{Down at the Gay bar he is.}}

Isn’t that “hate speech” according to you Stalinists? Isn’t that “sad”? Isn’t it a “schoolyard taunt”?

/SARC.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Since it’s been a day or so since Falwell has passed, I feel the Thurman Munson rule no longer applies. Here’s what Rude Pundit has to say about the reverend:

“You could populate entire vital nations with the people he despised and wanted to cast into pits of despair if they didn’t accept his version of the son of God, a p** little deity who, like an overly inbred emperor, demands unquestioning loyalty and obeisance. To give yourself to Falwell’s god was to announce to the world that all questions from “why is there war?” to “why does grandpa have bleeding hemorrhoids?” could be answered with god’s name and will invoked. What an amazingly ignorant way to exist. And all you needed to join in was to give your hard-earned money to him. “If we don’t tithe, we rob god,” Falwell told his stupid flock. Give part of your Social Security check to the man, not the god, but the man, Falwell, who would, he assured you, do god’s will with it. And how did you know god’s will would be done? Because Falwell assured you it would be. Because, oh, sweet bliss of tautologies, Falwell knew. How did you know Falwell knew? Because he told you so. No wonder George W. Bush is president.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

If we followed the advice of some right-wingnut trolls who hate the “guvment”, we’d all be dying of E-coli:

KALAMAZOO, Mich. - A meat company is recalling 129,000 pounds of beef products in 15 states because of possible E. coli contamination, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said.

“Guvment baaaddddd! Democrats evillll!”

By getalife

May 17, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Losers

Bwa.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - I would be happy to respond to any question you have when you ask it in a civil tone. No name calling.

By Birds of a feather

May 17, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

MpeachW and al Queda both dragging dead bodies around for political purposes. Liberals and terrorists are birds of a feather.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

The potential recruits are given one chance to pass their drug test when they show up to the Military Entrance Processing Station, but a hidden camera investigation carried out by San Antonio NBC affiliate WOAI caught recruiters volunteering to help recruits ace the drug test at home or in their office before ever heading to MEPS for that official test.

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Well,you THREE liberals who made all the last TEN comments under different names,

RW asked a sensible clarification to Cindy’s cloudy conclusions and you THREE ran like a bunch of scared bigoted rabbits.

Let one of you ANSWER THE QUESTION with FACTS instead of liberal leanings. Try it. You’ll like it.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Oh goodie, they have an immigration bill.

It will not pass.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Dead Man Walking

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

If Iraq parliament wants withdrawal, we do too

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

{{{Would you please show specific examples of what President Bush has done that makes him Hitler in your mind so I can decide.}}}

Dusty,

Let’s get one thing out of the way and all acknowledge that Bush is not a genocidal maniac like Hitler. A maniac…yes…genocidal…NO.

But to answer your question, I think a “pre-emptive” invasion of a sovereign country based on lies and half-truths is very Hitler-like. Hitler (and Stalin) did it with Poland and yes, Bush did it with Iraq.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

{{{By Cindy May 17, 2007 12:12 PM | bush has not been able to get away with the extremes of hitler, but he tried. You obviously have never had your job threatened for political belief.}}}

Translation:

In Cindy World, Bush tried to send Cindy to the gas chamber but failed. He woulda if he coulda, but did the second best thing and fired her. The fact that she is an incompetent dolt and was unable to contain her raging and irrational hatred for the Administration while employed by them has never occurred to her.

{{{By Cindy May 17, 2007 12:12 PM

And my husband assured me that the bush could not gain control of the military like hitler because most of them believe in country and constitution first.}}}

Translation:

Cindy would have us believe that Bush had plans for a military coup but brave soldiers and “whistleblowers” like CindyKins prevented his dastardly plan from going through.

{{{By Cindy May 17, 2007 12:43 PM | Instilling fear of a group Using patriotism as a personal tool to discourage freedom of speech Using conspiracies against the country as a political issue Appealing to feeling rather than common sense Obtaining power not rightfully his Purging certain nonpolitical positions to fill with political supporters To list a few. It is better to see the similarities when reading the events in the museum.}}}

Translation:

Cindy is out of her gourd.

Her speech has not been abridged, the only conspiracies are in the minds of the 9/11 Truthers and their ridiculous parrots, she is ruled by her emotions and not her intellect*, the Administration legally fired people who “serve at the pleasure of the President”, and not one of these ludicrous claims have anything to do with the Holocaust Museum.

*Since Cindy is as dumb as a rock, her reliance on her emotions is somewhat understandable.

By Like Kosovo?

May 17, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

A preemptive invasion of a country based on lies and half truths plus one we weren’t in a state of war with anyway.

Is Clinton also Hitler steve-o?

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

IM PRETTY SURE THIS WILL COME UP LATER SO IM “PREEMPTIVE”

Main Entry: am·nes·ty

: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals - amnesty transitive verb

AND JUST IN CASE

Main Entry: 1par·don

1 : INDULGENCE 1 2 : the excusing of an offense without exacting a penalty 3 a : a release from the legal penalties of an offense b : an official warrant of remission of penalty 4 : excuse or forgiveness for a fault, offense, or discourtesy

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife

May 17, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Oh goodie, they have an immigration bill.

It will not pass.}}}

Getalife,

Thanks for the good news!!!!

Comrade Peach,

It was a rhetorical question since I already know you have nothing cogent to say in response.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Typical Hitler/Bush plot trying to discredit an honest American citizen. That’s all the trolls are good for: propaganda. BD you don’t have an independent thought in your head so you are jealous of those who do. Geez, you even have to quote your kid on the blog because you have nothing to say.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - I actually have pretty good response. Just waiting for civility. Are you capable of it?

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

Self-indulgence is defined by Cindy.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

LuckoDork,

Use your real ID at 2:14. We’ve been through this already.

Kosovo was a NATO action and it was done in order to prevent and stop a repeat of the genocidal attrocities, that had occured previously in Bosnia, from occurring also in Kosovo.

An aside:

It was hilarious to watch neoCONs freak out over here when Germany refused to support us in the Iraq invasion. Can you imagine that? Germans unwilling to participate in a preemptive strike? Hmmm…I wonder why that is?

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Cindy@1:45,

Good try, Cindy but no prize.

There are only two sides to a war, your side and the enemies side. There is a winning side and a losing side. You cannot be on both at the same time. Excuses won’t cut it.

Make up your mind. Which side are you supporting?

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

{{{By Delusions of grandeur May 17, 2007 1:25 PM RW has a ribbon magnet on his big-a$$ SUV. That’s what he’s done for the war effort.}}}

I know what RW HASN’T done for the war effort:

1) Spread Al Qaeda propaganda by cheering for their suicide bombers.

2) Attempted to surrender the American armed forces to the terrorists in Iraq.

3) Disclosed secret information harming our national security in an effort to “get Bush.”

4) Hectored our commander in chief with witch hunts, show trials and kangaroo courts distracting his attention during a time of war.

For this, he has done more to help the war effort then hundreds or even thousands of you sniveling Coward liberals put together.

You know what I mean?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

(After I finished lunch I saved my company about $5000, the information on how I did it is proprietary so I can’t tell you, in case you were wondering about me.)

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

AINT THIS ONE A PI$$ER>>>>

Troops don’t need bigger pay raises, White House budget officials said Wednesday in a statement of administration policy laying out objections to the House version of the 2008 defense authorization bill

By ABS

May 17, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

MpeachW, Who are you quoting at 1:52? The reason I ask, did you see Christopher Hitchens on CNN the night Falwell died? Oh good lord, that was brutal!

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

{{{Geez, you even have to quote your kid on the blog because you have nothing to say.}}}

Cindy,

Err, you really should consider getting professional help. Since you can’t substantiate your wild charges that Bush=Hitler, you are reduced to inventing new ones. It’s an old Moonbat trick - move the goal post and hope no one notices.

There was exactly ONE occasion where I quoted my son, and I was making a cogent point about the IQ and EQ of a 12 year old being superior to the combined abilities of all the denizens of the Moonbat Universe.

By Local Recruiter

May 17, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

NO LUCKO DULL

I know what RW hasn’t done for the war.

Enlist.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull says:

“4) Hectored our commander in chief with witch hunts, show trials and kangaroo courts distracting his attention during a time of war.”

Kind of like the Monica thing when Clinton was at war in Kosovo.

What a hypocrite.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

CNN’s Ed Henry almost interviews Paul “Sex Machine” Wolfowitz and you can read about it here. But we do learn, in the matter of Wolfowitz, that it appears that the people at the White House are turning into Defeatopublicans:

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

GOP senator predicts Gonzales will quit

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Local Recruiter,

If you’re wondering why no one is signing up, may I suggest that you target people who are actually eligible for service?

Try hitting the Berry College campus. ABS can give you directions.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull says:

“4) Hectored our commander in chief with witch hunts, show trials and kangaroo courts distracting his attention during a time of war.”

Kind of like the Monica thing when Clinton was at war in Kosovo.

What a hypocrite.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Who needs fiction these days?

Why people write fiction, I have no idea. You’ve got to read this anti-immigrant resolution from a Republican politician in Utah:

Deja vu all over again!

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

ABS - My 1:52 was from the Rude Pundit web site.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

ABS,

You should read Hitchens’s article about Falwell in Slate. That was brutal as hell!

By But it was a lie

May 17, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

There was no mass genocide in Bosnia or Kosovo.

By Ray

May 17, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Silly libs - Congress needs to approve the Iraq money so that it can work its way back here to help out our economy…economics 101 anybody?

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Rotten Peach,

What do you think of this comment by Comrade DawgBite?: {{Down at the Gay bar he is.}}

Just following your example Buy Danish. When you read me in a way you are reading you. I got this style by copying racist hate mongers like you.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

steve-o 2:08

Regarding the entire “Bush lied” argument to invade Iraq: wasn’t it pretty clear from Tenet’s interviews and his book that the Pres was repeating the intel/analysis/conclusions he got from CIA and that CIA did not feel pressure to falsify information and provide predetermined conclusions? In other words, does repeating something accepted as truth by experts, which at a later time proves to be false, make the person who repeated the information a liar?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

LuckoDork @ 2:36,

Srebrenica was a genocidal atrocity. What exactly do you call it?

By DawgBite

May 17, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Local Recruiter,

If you’re wondering why no one is signing up, may I suggest that you target people who are actually eligible for service?

What’s ole RW’s excuse Buy Danish? Bad knees? Or is he just plain chicken shi#

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

steve-o @2:08,

You can’t get it straight about OUR war, can you.

You called Bush a “maniac”, invader, etc.etc. If Bush is a maniac, then so was the CIA, the Congress of USA,British Intelligence, Tony BLair and UK parliment, Poland, Italy, Japan and others. That’s a lot of “maniacs”, all of them in opposition to the worldwide threat of terrorism.

Perhaps you are so “sane” that you cannot even recognize terrorism. You back off and say it is just “Bush”.

What a retreat! What cowardice! What a spineless wartime cut-n-runner! Patriotism so hidden that it has to be explained over and over because it is impossible to find.

I don’t see it. I find no excuse for patriotic subversion. That is exactly what most liberals are giving us and you are running with the rest of them.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

LIAR!

At this point, some of the worst genocidal activities of the four-year-old conflict occurred. In Srebrenica, a Safe Haven, U.N. peacekeepers stood by helplessly as the Serbs under the command of General Ratko Mladic systematically selected and then slaughtered nearly 8,000 men and boys between the ages of twelve and sixty - the worst mass murder in Europe since World War II. In addition, the Serbs continued to engage in mass rapes of Muslim females.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Christopher Hitchens on the founder of Mormonism:

In March 1826 a court in Bainbridge, New York, convicted a twenty-one-year-old man of being “a disorderly person and an impostor.” That ought to have been all we ever heard of Joseph Smith, who at trial admitted to defrauding citizens by organizing mad gold-digging expeditions and also to claiming to possess dark or “necromantic” powers. However, within four years he was back in the local newspapers (all of which one may still read) as the discoverer of the “Book of Mormon.”

Also, anyone who is interested in a thorough history of Mormonism should read “Under the Banner of Heaven” by Jon Krakauer — it’s available in paperback now!

By silver

May 17, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

All the neocons have dreams of adequacy. In real life, they are wrong, wrong, wrong, but in their dreams, the people of Iraq greet the zionist and christian invaders the way the French greeted the Americans in 1944. The actions of America and Israel in the Arab lands today is more like the actions of Nazi Germany in Poland in 1939 thru the 1944. That is correct, we ARE the evil in the middle east.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Bush and his administration were resolute in attacking Iraq even before 9/11. In fact, soon after 9/11, both Cheney and Rumsfeld worked feverishly to find a way to pin the attacks on Saddam Hussein. They were looking for anything and everything to justify the invasion. Tenet, being a team player that he is, tried to court favortism and approval from the President by assembling a bunch of garbage on cylinders, etc.

There were enough naysayers for the president to listen to, but instead he opted to concoct a weak argument based on flimsy evidence. Colin Powell even scoffed at first at presenting the “evidence” to the UN Security Council.

In the end, it was Bush’s decision and his decision alone. You can call it “lies”, “half-truths”, or whatever. But the bottom line is that he made a wreckless and horrible decision based on dishonest and unsubstantiated claims and allegations.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

{{“which at a later time proves to be false, make the person who repeated the information a liar?”}}

How about “we’ll be greeted as liberators!”, “we can’t wait for the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud!”, “no doubt!”, “the Iraqi oil will pay for the war!”, “Iraq’s nuclear weapons can be delivered to us within 45 minutes”, “the aluminum tubes could only be used for nuclear weapons”… and don’t forget dear ole Colin Powell going before the U.N. under pressure to reveal his hand-drawn diagrams of the “mobile WMD labs” — ALL LIES.

Or are you still Bush-kissing to this day, Uber?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Bush is the president and the buck stops with him. He made the decision to go to war based on weak evidence. He didn’t even think about the consequences of such a disasterous decision. It is BUSH’s fault.

There were enough people that knew that invading Iraq would be disasterous and distract us from our war with Al Qaeda, but he ignored the warning and did it anyway. Not once did Bush, Cheney or Rumsfeld question the social fabric of Iraq. Not once did they even think that vendettas and conflicts will arise out of a power vacuum once Saddam was gone. Not once did they ask why a murderous dictator like Saddam was able to stay in power for so long in a Balkanized country. Not once did they even consider the different stakeholders in Iraq.

It was complete incompetence and folly for us to invade Iraq. I knew it was a dumb thing to do before the invasion, and sadly my opinions have been validated ever since the insurgency began immediately after the fall of Saddam. I knew that the country would descend into chaos. I knew that the different groups would stop quarreling with each other. I knew that the invasion would spark a refugee crisis in the Middle East. I knew that we weren’t going to march in their so easily and install a democratic government while being greeted as liberators.

Call me what you want, but I stand by my beliefs that this war is complete sh!t.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

MpeachW,

Thanks for the link at 2:47. I can’t believe the audacity of some people.

By @@

May 17, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

I was reading a Marxist website yesterday. It seems as though they believe that Syria, China, Russia, North Korea and Iran’s oppressive governments can be blamed on the U.S.

I guess if you have a “captive audience”, you can convince them of anything.

But when you’re restricted under an oppressive regime, “Realism” is a “flower in crannied wall.”

You liberals need to get real. Your country is “the flower” of democracy.

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

MpeachW,steve0

There is a genocide going on right now in Darfur, The death count so far is over 200,000. The holocaust death number ranged over ten million.

8,000 men and boys ruthlessly murdered is a terrible thing to happen in this world. But it did not reach the horrendous numbers of other worldwide genocides.

That may be the disagreement on the exact definition of genocide. I don’t know if there is an official count of slaughter that recognizes genocide.

By ABS

May 17, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, Sigh…to think…I even wished you a Happy Mother’s Day. What are you trying to proove?

steve-o, Thanks for the article tip.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Paul, War is never something that should be treated lightly. However, the bush administration treated the Iraqi invasion like a game. They only wanted information to support their invasion. I have read (and will try to find out where if you want) that there were people from other agencies giving other information. A good leader would take into consideration all the options. If there was doubt for a major decision like this, it would be researched. Bush did nothing. The definition of lying can include omitting some truths. Never once did this administration say that non appointed State Department personnel had provided information contrary to what he received. Nor did he tell the American people that there was potential of insurgency, the intel of which was provided for him. His lying is by omission. He knowingly misled the American people.

By Why can't they find the bodies?

May 17, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

The 2:47 link is nothing but a full blown lie. They haven’t found close to that many bodies even today, 12 years later. What do you expect from a wingbat propaganda machine?

By ABS

May 17, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Dusty, You failed to mention the thousands of women and girls who have been raped in Darfur during this conflict.

It is a horrible tragedy, and since the U.S. is in the business of getting rid of evil regimes, why aren’t we there? They have machetes, I think we could take them.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Dusty - you must not have bothered to click the link. The first line was:

Bosnia Genocide - 1992-1995 - 200,000 Deaths

Can you explain we’re in Iraq instead of Darfur?

By Paul

May 17, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

steve-o 2:52

Thanks. I was just interested in the use of the word “lie.”

Goldie 2:51

?!!? When I was here a week or so ago and you published something unfavorable about Mormons, I asked why. You replied you were merely repeating stuff from fundamentalists.

Now this. You cite a book by a career aethiest, as well as a book by a mountaineer/writer who very, very loosely uses the term “Mormon” to include excommunicated offshoots.

You’re sounding more and more like a fundamentalist quoting fundamentalist points. I’ll reiterate: this wasn’t an issue with you until a Mormon runs for Pres as a Republican. Possibly you could send your allegations to one of Senator Reid’s staffers and see how the Democratic Majority Leader responds?

I’ve always said, if I want to find out what Democrats believe, I don’t ask the Republican National Committee. Your sources are in the same vein -

By Ari

May 17, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

Luckodull, how do you feel about the Irgun and Stern Gang? You are an insightful person and I would like to hear your take on those particular groups.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You are absolutely correct. There is genocide occurring in Darfur while the world remains criminally negligent and allows it to happen.

But the slaugher in Srebrenica was an ACT of genocide. And that wasn’t an isolated incident either. Read the link that MpeachW posted at 2:47.

@@,

You’re right, we are the flower of democracy, which is why so many of us are p!ssed off at the way the Bush has ran roughhshod over the Bill of Rights and the Geneva Convention, as well as getting us stuck in and ill-advised and miscalculated disasterous war.

By Midori

May 17, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

The Judiciary Committee Task Force on Antitrust has concluded its hearing, “Prices at the Pump: Market Failure and the Oil Industry.”

Richard Blumenthal, Attorney General for the State of Connecticut, describes a meeting he had with US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales requesting a federal investigation into the oil industry:

“As I was driving here from the airport I thought back to a meeting that I had with the United States Attorney General less than a year ago, involving a number of my colleagues from all around the country, both Republican and Democrat Attorneys General, who met with him and the chairman of the FTC with the single purpose of persuading them to begin a federal investigation.

And unfortunately, our plea went unheeded then — there has been no effective federal investigation.

“We pleaded with Attorney General Gonzales and FTC Chairman Majoras, Platt, to begin an investigation of the oil industry, and we offered our partnership in that work. All 50 Attorneys General have hands full investigating monopolistic abuses on the part of the oil industry, but we lack the authority, and expertise, and resources of the federal government. And so we invited, we beseeched the federal government to join us in that investigation and so far they have declined to do so.

“There is a need to provide greater authority but also to use that authority effectively to enforce the law. The law without enforcement is dead letter. And so, as we review what can be done to change the law, I think at the top of the priorities ought to be the kinds of demands that you have made, Mr. Chairman, and other Members of the Committee and Congress, that the Justice Department be more vigorous in enforcing these laws that protect against anti-trust and consumer abuses.”

By Paul

May 17, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Goldie 2:59

You didn’t really answer the question. Many of the quotes you gave came from our intelligence services. Others were pretty “out there” statements to add support (having a wrecked oil infrastructure pay for the war? Talk about profiteering -). The larger question, as steve-o addressed, was the use of the term(s) “lie/liar” - hence the question, if a person repeats information supplied by experts which is later found to be false, does that make the person who repeated the information a liar? The question extends far beyond this administration.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Sorry to burst your bubble, Liar

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

{{Possibly you could send your allegations to one of Senator Reid’s staffers and see how the Democratic Majority Leader responds?}}

Uber, as I posted earlier, Senator Reid represents his constituents in the state of Utah — he is not attempting to run for president. When or if he ever decides to run for president, then your questions for his religion will be relevant.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

again

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

LuckoDork @ 3:11,

Are you General Mladic himself? Maybe you’re one of Arkan’s Tigers… I wouldn’t be planning any trips to the Netherlands if I were you.

By Ari

May 17, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Luckodull, what is your opinion of the Irgun and the Stern Gang? You seem to have insight and I really would like to hear your take on those particular groups.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

BREAKING: Senators want Gonzales no-confidence vote

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

…and again

By Paul

May 17, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Cindy 3:11

I just look at a lot of the examples you gave as the normal filtering that occurs when large amounts of data are synthesized up the chain before it gets to the National Command Authority. I don’t happen to equate ineptness with calculated deception is all. I’ve written before I believe there were geopolitical reasons driving the decision and Iraq was the best target. Much of what was presented, I believe, was to provide reasons the majority of people would support - simple, clear, and relatively immediate.

It wasn’t just the Administration. The intelligence services (not just CIA), past Administrations (that’s plural), State, as well as the DoD - including a number of the generals now on the “if only they’d listened to me” circuit did not serve the country well.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Gallup: Majority of public, including Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians, favor expansion of Hate Crime Law to include sexual orientation

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Paul @ 3:19 — maybe you prefer the term “cherry-picking the data” more? Bush & Cheney had plenty of advisers in the State Dept. and CIA who stated that the data they were using was not to be trusted. Who was “Curveball” and how much did they rely on the lies told by him? So, they weren’t just “repeating information” from the CIA — they were making it up, Big Time!

LIES, LIES, LIES.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

You meant “Nevada” instead of “Utah”, dear.

Just trying to head off the resident neoCON trolls that love to pounce on even the most trivial typos.

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

…and yet again

Just how much proof do you need? The whole world knows genocide was committed and yet one silly little yahoo on a cartoonist’s blog refuses to believe it.

By No Mas

May 17, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Agreement Reached on Immigration Reform By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS (Associated Press Writer) From Associated Press May 17, 2007 1:29 PM EDT

WASHINGTON - Key senators in both parties and the White House announced agreement Thursday on an immigration overhaul that would grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border.

Scream loud and long RW and Buy Danish. LMAO!!!

And this is the good part!

They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.

Told you so! MORONS!!! LMAO! ROFL!

By getalife

May 17, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

“Let history record that Kelly O’Donnell of NBC News was the first journalist to ask George W. Bush the question that will end his presidency.

O’Donnell: “Sir, did you send your then chief of staff and White House counsel to the bedside of John Ashcroft while he was ill to get him to approve that program, and do you believe that kind of conduct from White House officials is appropriate?”

Bush evaded the question wholesale, so O’Donnell asked it again.

O’Donnell: “Was it on your order, sir?”

Bush: “As I said, the program is a necessary program that was constantly reviewed and constantly briefed to the Congress…”

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

steve0 @3:01

You can blame President Bush as he is the leader. BUT HE CANNOT DECIDE TO GO TO WAR BY HIMSELF. That is a constitutional fact.

Saddam was a dictator. That is how he ruled.

The post war planning in Iraq does seem lacking. Kinda like the Japanese in WWII (if I may stretch it that far.) They were not planning for an atomic bomb.

We did not expect invasive terrorists from all sides after a military victory. But they came and we fight them there. That is a location I much prefer to our own cities.

If we had complete support of our war effort in this country, we could complete our efforts much faster with less casualties.

Terorists seem to think that half of America is on their side. Would you disagree with that conclusion?

By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

getalife - now if we can just get the bastard to evade that question under oath.

I’m not holding my breath.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

Steve-O @ 3:26 — thanks for that heads-up! If it’s not the spelling-dictators pouncing, it’s surely the 50-states-dictators who will pounce…

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Call me “hateful” if you will, but I find this very disturbing, and I believe this is why we need men like Jerry Falwell.

While I am not a Fundamentalist, there was much to be admired in his positions on many issues, and someone needs to be a voice in the wilderness of the Brave New World.

To whit:

A major relaxation of IVF rules was announced by ministers today… The move, which is part of a shake-up of laws on the use of human tissues, will also allow the creation of ” Frankenstein” embryos - human and animal cells mixed together - for medical research…. Under the proposed laws, scientists will be allowed to create human-animal chimeras - human embryos that have been mixed with animal cells…Sir David King, the Government’s chief scientific adviser, said he welcomed the move: “I believe that the approach to the creation of embryos containing human and animal material is the right one.”

By Paul

May 17, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Goldie 3:25

“Cherry-picking“‘s a pretty good term - especially when applied to Feith, - who I believe was in the Office of the Vice President. But some of those examples, I believe, were trotted out to give strength to the arguments, not as a primary cause for war. And many of those same arguments were the same ones we’d been hearing for about ten years.

By The Watcher

May 17, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

{{{{You can blame President Bush as he is the leader. BUT HE CANNOT DECIDE TO GO TO WAR BY HIMSELF}}}

Yes, we know that.

They started requiring drug tests and he decided he couldn’t finish his service.

Friends don’t let friends fly jets on cocaine.

By MM

May 17, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Dusty at 3:31

If we had complete support of our war effort in this country, we could complete our efforts much faster with less casualties.

Four years and half a trillion dollars was plenty of support.

If the patient is on life support and has no chance to get better, pull the plug. But wait, you rightwingnuts didn’t want to do that for Schiavo either.

You folks just can’t stand the fact that Bush got us into a war that we cannot win.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

{{We did not expect invasive terrorists from all sides after a military victory.}}

Why is that, Dusty-brain? Who was it that decided the risk of not securing the Iraqi borders and not sending enough military troops to do the job right was a minimal risk? Hmmm????

By Republicans For Impeachment Org

May 17, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

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By Paul

May 17, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

MpeachW 3:13

Sorry if this is a repost - the original appears to have dropped.

I realize your Darfur question was of the “if this then why not this” variety - but - are you advocating the US commit military forces to Sudan?

As far as I know, only Democratic Presidential candate Sen Biden has called for an invasion now of a sovereign nation - none of the Republican candidates have. Rather makes on wonder which is the party of foreign adventurism, nonconsultation with allies and imposing American “values” through force, doesn’t it? :)

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

{{{By MpeachW

May 17, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

getalife - now if we can just get the bastard to evade that question under oath.}}}

Rotten peach,

Bastard? Tsk Tsk. Where is this civility you keep preening about?

{{{By No Mas May 17, 2007 3:29 PM | Told you so! MORONS!!! LMAO! ROFL!}}}

You told us so? Really? Who are you “No Mas”?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Bush got approval from a “rubber stamp” Congress. They approved anything he wanted. There were even a lot of dillusional Dems that voted for authorization.

But in the end, as COMMANDER IN CHIEF, the decision to go to war is his and his alone.

All the American flags and yellow ribbons in the world won’t be able to undo the damage done in Iraq. The president didn’t ask any of us to make a sacrifice on the homefront. Instead, he gave us tax cuts.

In regards to opposition to the war given aid and comfort to terrorists, that’s the most fallacious piece of propaganda peddled since the Red Scare. When you say terrorists, which ones do you mean? The Shia Medhi Army? Al Qaeda in Iraq? I’m not trying to be sarcastic, but the insurgency in Iraq comprises a vast number of groups with divergent interests. This has far evolved past “us versus them” and has degenerated into us being caught in the midst of a civil war.

This war has been nothing but a disaster and we will be paying for it for generations to come.

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Paul, I often use administration to include all political appointees of the executive branch.

So he shouldn’t be blamed for being inept? Heck, he shouldn’t be president if he’s inept. And regardless where does the buck stop? (Oh yeah, with Tenet, sorry, senior moment.)

By Paul

May 17, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Goldie 3:20

Dropped posts all over the place today -

Regarding Sen Reid and the Mormon thing, yes, he is a state senator representing his constituents (as all senators ar). But his position as Senate Majority Leader, with all its attendant rights and powers, with the ability to set the Legislative agenda, influence the Executive and Judicial branches, and in general makes it possible for him to affect every American, makes him a wee bit more influential than, say, the junior senator from Georgia.

Which is why I think all your assertions/questions/allegations against Romney are applicable to Sen Reid, as well.

I also believe I wrote I’m pretty much a live and let live type when it comes to religion. Whatever works for someone is fine with me (of course, as long as someone else’s life, limb or liberty aren’t threatened). I believe you’ve written you’re of the Christian persuasion. You know, it’d be pretty easy for a nonbeliever to ridicule Christian doctrine (such as it is) and make “Christians” out to be superstitious, naive, immature people who make Wiccans look absolutely rationale.

We had Kennedy and I don’t think the Vatican or his religious beliefs caused any great threat to the Republic. I think we’d “survive” a Mormon just fine (I’m speaking generally, not of Mitt Romney or Sen Reid, should he ever decide to run).

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

If Congress wants to defund the war drip by drip, or set timelines to withdraw troops, then they need to take responsibility for their votes on authorizations to go to war in the first place.

They can’t have it both ways.

Only a coward demands power and then blames everyone else if things don’t work out like a the pat story line of two hour movie.

By No Mas

May 17, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 3:45 PM You told us so? Really? Who are you “No Mas”?

I’m one of your johns Buy Danish! You know me as Jose when I come to your trailer every Thursday night. That’s who I am you toothless bit#h!

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

{{{By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Call me “hateful” if you will, but I find this very disturbing, and I believe this is why we need men like Jerry Falwell.

While I am not a Fundamentalist, there was much to be admired in his positions on many issues, and someone needs to be a voice in the wilderness of the Brave New World.}}}

Thank you, Buy Danish! You have just shown us the scope of your craziness!

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Rotten Peach,

I await your indignant response to No Mas’ 3:58.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife May 17, 2007 3:31 PM “Let history record that Kelly O’Donnell of NBC News was the first journalist to ask George W. Bush the question that will end his presidency.}}}

You know, al-Gitmo, I was wrong to say you domestic terrorists would never have any sympathy for John Ashcroft.

In fact, I’m kinda wondering if hell has frozen over.

I’m just funnin, you goonies would be pro Rove if he’d testify against Bush.

That would be a hell of a sight, Karl Rove with his own little lib talk show on PMSNBC.

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Defunding the war is easier said than done. Face it, the child king that you have repeatedly voted for and supported has gotten us into a world of sh-it. It’s quite cowardly to pass the buck.

{{{Only a coward demands power and then blames everyone else if things don’t work out like a the pat story line of two hour movie.}}}

It’s good of you to finally hurl criticism at the Bush administration! So many neoCONs thought this war in Iraq would be like a bad Jerry Bruckheimer movie with corny slogans and fanfare. Many are starting to understand the realities of war and the follies of our child-king. Good to see you coming around. Now if we can only work on this Falwell fetish that you have.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

Fine, I’ll count you in as a YES for Frankenstein embryos.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

{{{I’m just funnin, you goonies would be pro Rove if he’d testify against Bush.}}}

Kind of like how you neoCONs fawned over Zell Miller after he lost his damn mind.

By The Watcher

May 17, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

“North Carolina would enter a compact that could eliminate the power of the Electoral College system to choose a president, according to a bill that passed the Senate Monday night. If agreed to by states representing a majority of the nation’s 538 electoral votes, the measure would require North Carolina to give its electoral votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote nationwide.”

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 17, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Not only are half or more of Americans supportive of the terrorists i.e., they disagree with the President (yes, it is the same thing), a substantial portion of our retired military are pro-Al Qaida, too. There is clearly only one thing left to do: cancel the elections and name Bush emperor, at least until we kill enough liberals so that we are the majority again. I know that we said that we’d fight them over there, but what do you do when you find the enemy among you?

I say that liberals are more dangerous than terrorists. Further, many libs don’t believe in God like the terrorists do. So, at a minimum, the libs are less deserving of life anyway. Furthermore, when democracy is under attack by the majority you have to thin the herd so that only pro-American people are in charge.

There may be several thousand Al Qaida in Iraq, but if the polls are right, there are almost 200 million terrorist sympathizers, appeasers, apologists and aiders and comforters here at home. I say Bring the Troops Home and let them get started on the real enemy. Those who disagree with me and you.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Reinforcing that Do Nothing work ethic:

{{{Two Senate Democrats said Thursday they will seek a no-confidence vote on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales over accusations that he carried out President Bush’s political agenda at the expense of the Justice Department’s independence.}}}

OOOoooooowwwwwhhhhhhh, a no confidence vote, shiver me timbers!!

Working hard to earn the love and faithfulness of that 29%.

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Sara

May 17, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, what you just recieved from No Mas is exactly what happens when miscreants like Luckodull are allowed to get away with the incivility that he does here. I guess it is the what’s good for the goose, is good for the gander type thing. Luckodull set that precedent and now everyone has to deal with it.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Q: How many Bush Administration officials does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Ten. One to offer a no-bid billion dollar contract to a Bush friend to change the light bulb. One to leak that the light bulb was changed. And eight to say that it wasn’t.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

steve-o loon-O

How easy or difficult it is to defund the war is irrelevant. Really, what is your point?

Morevoer, no one in any administration has ever said that war is like a 2 hour movie, so the fact that that is reality does not translate to me “hurling criticism” at the Bush Administration.

I disagree with how Bremer and others handled things, I disagreed with original Rules of Engagement, and not going after Al Sadr in the early days of the War, but that does not mean we should not have gone there in the first place.

By Dusty

May 17, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Well, I am wasting my time here. The manager, electronics or something are so slow and impaired that I do not care to continue.

I also feel that liberals are dead set against the government of the USA and will only answer questions that they can adjust to their ideas. They change, overlook, misinterpret and twist and turn to promote their obvious intentions.

Democrats in Congress are behaving in the same manner. Their anti-Bush actions working against the country are also becoming obvious. Thus their popularity has dropped like a rock in a pond. Let us hope that our country survives the onslaught by it’s own citizens who align themselves with those who hate us.

By Red Skull

May 17, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

I think we all know who the coward is right? Are you going to stick around now that I’m here or are your going to tuck your tail between your conservative legs and cut’n run as usual?

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Don’t go away mad, just go away!

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

{{You know, it’d be pretty easy for a nonbeliever to ridicule Christian doctrine (such as it is) and make “Christians” out to be superstitious, naive, immature people who make Wiccans look absolutely rationale.}}

Uber, as a “recovering Baptist”, I totally understand superstitious, naive and immature people.

I’m wondering why some people are so afraid of reading history about religions and how different sects get started… what is the problem with understanding where the myths and beliefs come from? And why do some so-called “Christians” feel that Mormonism is a “cult”? These can only be answered by educating ourselves and I don’t see anything wrong with analyzing the history to get to the facts.

Plenty of history books and newspaper articles have been written about who Joseph Smith was and why he’s considered such a blasphemer to so many mainstream Christian sects. Are you afraid of learning the history of Mormonism?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

{{{I disagree with how Bremer and others handled things, I disagreed with original Rules of Engagement, and not going after Al Sadr in the early days of the War, but that does not mean we should not have gone there in the first place.}}}

Buy Danish,

Now we’re getting somewhere! At least you admit Bremer and the CPA fouling up a lot of things. But still, we should have not invaded Iraq in the first place.

And yes, members of the administration sold the war as being easy. Wolfowitz testified that the war will “pay for itself”. Cheney stated that we would be “greeted as liberators”, and Bush gave his “Mission Accomplished” speech right after we entered Bagdhad. Talk about jumping the gun…

Dusty,

I hate religious extremist nuts as much as the next man, I just believe in using reason and intelligence when you fight rather than flailing your arms and hitting indiscriminately like a little girl.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

{{{By Red Skull May 17, 2007 4:20 PM LuckoDull, I think we all know who the coward is right? Are you going to stick around now that I’m here or are your going to tuck your tail between your conservative legs and cut’n run as usual?}}}

Dude, are you asking me to use that Skull of yours for something that you are really not gonna like?

I doubt if I’ll like it either but if I must.

Coward.

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By Cindy

May 17, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG, LOL

Dusty sure agrees with your 4:11 (see her 4:19)

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

The Bush administration today threatened to a veto a House defense spending bill over a 3.5 percent pay raise for U.S. soldiers and a $40/month increase in benefits for military widows, among other provisions. The legislation passed the House today 397-27

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 17, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Why go after Al Sadr when we have Dennis Kucinich running around here? It seems to me that the military would have a “target-rich” enviroment here at home in an effort to get rid of the libs. We can call it the “Final Solution.” Besides it would be a great goodbye gift to Falwell who so eloquently stated that America deserved 9/11. If we killed all of the people who deserved 9/11 ourselves, preemptively, then we wouldn’t have to worry about terrorism because God would protect us, right?

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

I don’t know how long you’ve been posting on this blog buddy, but you do realize that you just spoke to one person when you addressed Buy Danish and Dusty, right? Everybody knows that, but they don’t want to admit it because they can’t prove it.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Rove is next after ganzo, then w and cheney.

Sill loving the criminals?

Come on over to the American side.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Dusty 3:31

I’ll have to agree with you there - much happened that the planners didn’t foresee - especially the chaos after the Iraqi military defeat. It’s been observed we’re involved in an entirely new type of warfare - and we’re still adjusting. State, DoD - did not see the chaos that would ensue (altho there were some low-level papers produced at the war colleges - those guys should be tagged for promotion). Even those who say “we should have sent more troops at the beginning” never answer the “to do what?” question that seems obvious in hindsight. So Saddam’s statue is toppled, we send in another 100,000 troops - and that translates into establishing a working government, how, exactly? Or restoring infrastructure (which I think went pretty well)? It’s not the numbers, it’s what you do with them, and as Rumsfeld was ridiculed for saying, there were a lot of “known unknowns” out there.

What I can’t figure out is why no one has explained/justified a Democratic candidate’s call to invade a sovereign nation (sarc). I imagine there’d be a response if it was made by, say, Giuliani. But not a positive one.

By Red Skull

May 17, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

FartoDull,

Well you don’t have to get violent, now do you? Usually, that’s a sign of a lack of a coherent political foundation and I’m quite sure that’s not you,ha ha ha ha !

Redeem yourself today Dull. Stop supporting the war, stop licking George Bush’s a$$, use common sense man!

By w00t

May 17, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull would much rather send all his own money to support a war where no progress is being made, our troops are dying, infrastructure is failing, and where we are not wanted even by the Iraqi Parliament. He’s someone that has no problem with sending over $500 BILLION of your hard earned money to that black whole than to fix problems here in the states. Healthcare, education, illegal aliens, boarder security, fuel prices, etc, etc. Instead he supports a twisted version of “global welfare”. Then again, why care about the American people, as long as our “leaders” keep them uneducated and scared of the rest of the world can they hold on to power and line their coffers.

That’s exactly why the neo-cons are deadly afraid of Ron Paul, because for once a presidential candidate is thinking outside the box and not relying on “Jesus”, “9/11” or the “boogie monster”.

Wake up people!

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

In light of Mr. Comey’s testimony yesterday, do you stand by your 2006 Senate and House testimony, or do you wish to revise it?

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

GOP Gonzales Resignation Roll Call Returns

By Paul

May 17, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Goldie

Nah, I like the inscription on the statue in “Animal House” - “Knowledge is Good.”

There’s a difference, though, in explaining a quest for knowledge and ridicule. Much of the origins of that - what, not a denomination - group? - comes from groups and people who have made it their life’s mission to attack the Mormon faith and “save” their lost souls.

PBS had a very nice documentary on Mormons a couple weeks back - two two-hour segments. It covered what you wrote - but in the context that such beliefs and practices were common at the time.

I suppose I strikes me as the same as someone from another country discussing the founding of our country and everything you hear is along the lines of “Well, Ben Franklin sure spent a lot of time in w******* houses when he was in Paris, didn’t he?” Or to say of Christians (I liked the “recovering Baptist” phrase - clever) to say “Your Christian New Testament? Written by a guy who was a well known leader of opposition to the believers, who led campaigns to have them arrested, tortured and killed? That guy? The one who changed his name from Saul?” True? Yup. But does it lead to a present-day understanding or is it at all germane to the political issues for which we select a President? Not really.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

steve-o getaclue-o,

Since you are a relative newcomer here* and don’t actually know my positions on much of anything unless I state them, you would be wise to stop making idiotic assumptions.

Other than what I just stated about Frankenstein embryos, you don’t know what I agreed or disagreed with Falwell about. Dittos for the Iraq War.

*unless you have re-invented yourself, like the way that One Punk evolved into No Mas.

Sara,

Your reasoning is that of a very immature child. Time to grow up dear!

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 17, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Paul,

There are many more things that I wouldn’t have guessed would have happened to:

1)

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 17, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Paul,

There are many more things that I wouldn’t have guessed would have happened to:

1)

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Giuliani To Run For President Of 9/11

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Bile Danish,

What do you mean assumptions? Its not hard at all to figure out what you support and don’t support. You repeat the conservative cue card like your f*ckin auditioning for a part. Steve-o has done well since he has been here which is a lot more than I can say for your dumba$$!

P.S. You have some nerve trying to accuse him of also being getalife. Isn’t that right Dusty and @@?

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

Your name isn’t Inspector Clouseau by any chance is it? I ask because your detective skills are non-existent and you are a bumbling fool.

Nut Job,

It’s time to retire you tired old shtick. It’s not in the least bit funny. If you want an audience, I suggest you address your comments to people who think you are a stand up guy.

Did you miss the part where I said “there was MUCH to be admired in his positions on MANY issues” of what Falwell said??

Do you know what the words “much” and “many” mean. Hint: They do not mean “all” or “every”.

By IN THE NEWS

May 17, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Street Battles in Iraqi Cities Point to Dire Security Status

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 17, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Paul,

There are many more things that I wouldn’t have guessed would have happened to:

1) that Shias would allign against Sunni but with Iran.

2) that the Sunni minority would allign themselves with terrorists because they are outnumbered

3) that we would be in danger of having a Iraqi government which is an Iranian satellite rather than pro-West

4) that a vast majority of Iraqis would feel it was ok to kill our troops

I really thought that if you gave these people a chance to be free that there would be a Jeffersonian democracy with a grand George W. Bush Boulevard through downtown Baghdad. I really thought that. But of course I haven’t been the same since the labotomy.

I’ve heard people say that what we were what we are seeing could have been predicted by a freshman history major, but what do I know about college.

I know what we should do is invade Iran and see if the same sh*t storm happens then we’ll know if this whole thing was just plain stupid.

By Red Skull

May 17, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Lucko? Lucko? Where are you Lucko?

Damn! I scared him off again.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The bottom line is that what matters is not what some Mormons believe, but what Romney believes, what his values are, how he leads his life, and what his vision is for this country.

From what I can see, he is an exemplary citizen and he would make a splendid President.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I am relatively new here and I think that I can make the safe assumption that you are over-emotional, misguided, jingoistic and quite hateful towards others not like you.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

{{{{P.S. You have some nerve trying to accuse him of also being getalife.}}}}

Apocalypse,

Getalife is not One Punk or No Mas. Here’s a little something to entertain you. It’s about at your level - if not a bit too advanced.

Take heart! With practice, even you too can excel at that game!

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Biaaaatch Danish,

You know damn well you agree with everything Falwell stood for. You don’t possess the intuitiveness to filter out things you don’t like and have no choice but to just say yes to everything that whomever’s a$$ your kissing at the time says. How else can you explain your lack of a coherent reason for supporting the war?

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

Buy Danish is the b!tch that stole Christmas! Your assessment is correct my man, good insight.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Right Wing Nut Job 4:53

Welcome to reality!

Democracy in these Middle East countries? I doubt it - it’s antithetical to Islam. In fact, the entire Western concept and practice of Individualism is enough to get an advocate stoned or beheaded.

It appears many in the Executive, Congress, State Dept and Dept of Defense never took freshman math, or if they did, they failed it. Seriously, a course in Prognostication at Hogwarts would have been better.

Buy Danish 4:55

Well said. You seem to imply a diversity of beliefs and interpretation to daily life and politics. I think Sen Reid and Mr. Romney are good examples of that. All this about “weird” or “scandalous” history makes me wonder if it’s a diversion from examining his position and record, which many find appealing (a pragmatic approach to working with Democrats to implement health care reform, for instance).

My read, though, is that Giuliani will be a tougher candidate for Hillary than Romney would be. Must be NBC/MSNBC/Chris Matthew’s view, too, witnessed by the insipid softball questions he kept lobbing to Romney.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 17, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

The other day my neighbor, who beats his wife and kids constantly, gave me a dirty look. He didn’t say anything but I knew he was up to no good and besides it made me a little nervous since the 11/9 burglary I had and also he’s a bad dude. So I hatched this plan whereby I would kill him and liberate his wife and kids. I go over to his house and he sees the 2nd Amendment, NRA blessed, AK-47 I’m carrying and takes off running. So I shoot at him and had some collateral damage ‘cause I accidentally shot his kid in the head. So I finally track him down in his cellar and gun him down like a dog. Anyway I come out looking for my pat on the back for doing a good deed and this guy’s wife is crying and kicking and punching me, his kids are throwing rocks at me etc, etc… What a bunch of ingrates these peopel are, am I wrong?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse,

LMAO!!!

By getalife

May 17, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

No, I am only “getalife”.

Wow, Hardball is really good today.

NBC are in reality mode today.

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 17, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

-=-

Hilarious!

Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., plans to “preach” (protest) at the funeral of Rev. Jerry Falwell.

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You have to be a hell of a loser to kiss Buy Danish’s a$$.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG,

You’re cracking me up! LMAO!!

By Paul

May 17, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

That “You know damn well you agree with everything Falwell stood for” line from Apocalpyse reminded me of the story (short version) about the American Airlines pilot who took the wrong turn on a taxiway and stopped, blocking the lane. The female controller came up on ground (frequency used for all aircraft on the ground - all aircraft can hear what’s said to anyone) and her irate voice yelled “AA1847, I told you to take taxiway 3A and hold SHORT! DIDN’T YOU LISTEN TO ME? WHAT’S THE MATTER WITH YOU? NOW STAY THERE UNTIL I GET BACK AND TELL YOU TO MOVE! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?

There was stunned silence on the radio, then all heard a quiet, timid voice ask, “Wasn’t I married to you?”

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

This afternoon…on a very special edition of Montel…career Internet troll Buy Danish @ 4:55 learns the value of accepting others…

By Cindy

May 17, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Paul, More troops, that is standard in military mission books. I don’t have my hands on one right now. However, you have to cover the mission; the US military was not sent to Iraq with enough troops to cover the mission. For example: as they progressed North, they did not have anybody to stay behind and destroy stockpiles of ammunition, so they left them for anybody to pick up; heck they even watched as some were carried off and could do nothing. Talk to the old guys about the kind of force you should have for an invasion. (Remember that little strip of land in France called Normandy? 3,000 landing craft, 2500 other ships, 500 naval vessels, 13,000 aircraft, 156,000 troops - first day only, many others followed.) I know the neocons don’t like government workers (as opposed to administration officials), but State Department and CIA analysts did warn of:

the political culture of Iraq wwould not provide fertile ground for democracy

a “significant chance” that the sectarian and ethnic groups would engage in violent conflict

occupying forces would become targets

war and opposition would boost political Islam (which is one of the accomplishments OBL strived for)

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Paulie,

Ding Dong the b!tch is gone! You can unpucker your lips now punk.

Steve-0,

You should check out the sports blogs too. They have real good discussions over there about Vick, Bonds, Falcons and Braves controversies.

By JNH

May 17, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

“musical interlude” 12:53 This is great!!!

By Paul

May 17, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Cindy

Good points. “More troops” is the standard Army call - and the source of much friction between Rumsfeld and some Army generals. (Note: Chairman of the JCS Myers has stated (from retirement) much different views of Rumsfeld). The examples you cite, such as the run to Baghdad, were classic Army. Bypass the ammo dumps, take out the Republican Guard units and occupy the capital? Standard, traditional warfare doctrine, but in hindsight full of holes for the new reality. Remember the pics of the troops walking around while Baghdad was looted? No plan for that and the troops were on scene. Nation building and civil affairs are not the Army’s strong suit. Never have been and they resist it still.

Those warnings? Evidently CENTCOM didn’t heed them or if they did, were derelict in their planning (I believe one of the “Bush critic” generals was in charge of operations at CENTCOM during the run-up. Don’t’cha just love it?).

By Apocalypse

May 17, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

The Apocalypse has ended. Buy Danish, you may crawl out from under your rock now.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

Apocalypse

More dropped posts. I believe I wrote after your 5:12 and before your 5:22:

[[So much for civil discourse. Is that the way you conduct yourself in public, face-to-face conversations?]]

That was a rhetorical question. The answer’s self-evident.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

{{{By steve-o

May 17, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I am relatively new here and I think that I can make the safe assumption that you are over-emotional, misguided, jingoistic and quite hateful towards others not like you. }}}

{{{By steve-o

May 17, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

This afternoon…on a very special edition of Montel…career Internet troll Buy Danish @ 4:55 learns the value of accepting others…}}}

steve-o,

Fluck you.

How’s that?

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Cindy, Paul: Of all the failures of Bush; History will judge the Iraq War the worst. And, it will also be remembered as the worst disaster in American History. So easy to start a war. America has had it with these creeps. So hard to stop a war. We’re in for very hard times. The bill for Bush reckless spending comes due in a short time. If the republicans had to pay for the war; it would be over right now. Things are going to get much much worse. Mark my word.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Daniel

I’ll agree with much of that. America likes winners and has little tolerance for failure. Or for winners who take too long, for that matter.

A question I’ve posited before, never got much response, is: so Iraq’s “over.” Not an issue. We’re gone, not involved. Now what?

That, I think, is a critical question. Does Islamic fundamentalism go away? Do Middle Eastern theocracies and dictatorships disappear, eliminating one of the caps on the pent-up disillusionment and extremism of the young male (and increasingly, female) populations? Past the extreme fundamentalists and on to the more mainstream, do people such as Iran’s Ahmadinejad go away? What’s America’s policy now?

Half the Democratic Presidential candidates do not think there is a worldwide war on terror. All the Republican candidates do. This issue should be pressed, and pressed hard, during the campaign.

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Thomas the Talking Twit,

Here’s a little bio on Fred Phelps, the hateful fraud who runs the “Westboro Baptist Church”. He’s all yours PNAC:

[Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998.—————->>>>>Phelps supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic Party primary election. In his 1984 Senate race, Gore opposed a “gay bill of rights” and stated that homosexuality was not something that “society should affirm”.Phelps has stated that he supported Gore because of these earlier comments. According to Phelps, members of the Westboro Baptist Church helped run Gore’s 1988 campaign in Kansas. Phelps’ son, Fred Phelps Jr., hosted a Gore fundraiser, which Al and Tipper Gore attended, at his home in Topeka. Fred Phelps, Jr. served as a Gore delegate to the 1988 Democratic National Convention.<<<<<<<<————-] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FredPhelps#DemocraticParty)

Bwhahahahahahaha.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

Show back up for Happy Hour and the first thing I see is Doomsday Danny. “”The sky is falling, the sky is falling”“

Welcome back, Paul. It seems you let some especially nasty trash in with you. Be more careful with the door in the future if you don’t mind.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Now what? Bush has no credibility in Arabia. Only new leadership can correct the problem. I forsee a Clinton presidency with the “Big Guy” having a huge role in the Middle East.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

RW: Today’s cartoon nets a comfortable 93%! By the way, unless I’m mistaken truth can never be slander. All I do is tell you the truth. You think it’s h*ll.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

Hello again, RW-(the orignal)

Thanks. I’m not sure about this manmade global warming thing, but I’m pretty convinced pollution’s getting worse, not better.

If you didn’t see it, you may want to check the link at 10:29 on a comparison between MSNBC’s and FOX’s performance regarding the debates. The electorate deserves better - and a cynic would say, given the questions and followups Chris Wallace gave (“thank you for your response. Now will you answer the question?”) it’s no wonder Democratic candidates won’t debate on FOX.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Doomsday Danny,

I don’t believe I said a thing about slander. Just your obnoxious pessimism.

Running your life based on a cartoonist’s poll is a little weird don’t you think?

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Me too Daniel, she has a huge lead and think she has plenty of great Dems to put in her cabinet.

Wolfie is gone.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I saw it, I posted the same link yesterday afternoon along with a comment that that’s why Democrats are scared to go on Fox News. They aren’t about to let themselves be exposed to real questions.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

RW,

I am optomistic about Bill back in the White House with a larger Dem majority.

Al Gore as global warming czar sounds like a winner.

Bwa.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it interesting that all the moonbat(ic)s® that have been telling us how unhealthy it is to have one party control are salivating over the thought of having one party control?

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

RW: Yesterday you said my report about our troops in Iraq was slander. Suffering from short term memory loss, are we? By the way, do you thin we should just keep borrowing and spending for war? We’re ten trillion in debt. Or, should we live within our means, stop the war, and get to work?

By Paul

May 17, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Daniel 5:49

I’ve been thinking about the “worst” slant (an absolute term, none exceeding) and I’m not sure Vietnam wouldn’t be a viable nominee. It took far longer, killed over 50,000 Americans, hundreds of thousands of southeast Asians, cost way more - but we recovered from that, too.

A lot’s been written on the Hillary/Bill thing. While I won’t dispute he’s a charismatic person (no, some of you out there, I don’t mean that in the “fundamentalist” or “evangical” sense) it does seem a tad pathetic that the emphasis on “elect Hillary, get Bill” seems to generate a greater positive response than any discussion of her policies (Mitt’s a flip flopper?!!? Well, I guess that is different than a pretzel).

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Is that because Gore did such a great job when he was the czar of reforming airport security when he was there last time? You know all those policies he put into place that prevented hijackers from taking over planes and such.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Not to worry RW, your party will recover in a couple of decades.

Good luck with that.

Geez.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 6:17

[[Isn’t it interesting that all the moonbat(ic)s® that have been telling us how unhealthy it is to have one party control are salivating over the thought of having one party control?]]

But that’s different!

There. Issue settled with reason and logic.

Anything else?

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Doomsday Danny,

I was only referring to your Chicken Little imitation today. In the future if you want to comment on the archives make it clear that’s what you’re commenting on.

War costs. It’s a good thing President Bush cut taxes and got so much extra cash flowing into the treasury to pay for it.

It’s also not easy to have to spend all the money to fill the gaps created when your predecessor took an eight year hiatus from history. Remember the peace dividend?

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Yes, I know.

Blame others, blah, blah, blah.

I think Gore was out of politics on 9/11 but whatever makes you FEEL better.

Geez.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I’m not worried, I’ve seen how fast you loons can screw things up. How’s that first hundred days going? Wasn’t it supposed to be 100 hours?

Paul,

Believe it or not, that sarcastic answer was still more reasonable than what the LLL’s&reg: would normally give around here.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Paul: We left Southeast Asia. I cannot fashion a result which has us leaving the Middle East. We haven’t learned the lesson of VietNam. Bill is the “Big Guy” in the room. America aches for the halcyon days of balanced budgets and competence in the White House. It’s a done deal. Go Billary!

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

I remember the peace and prosperity and it will come back in 08.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Try to keep up. We let Gore overhaul airport security, nothing about the Gore security overhaul changed between 1/20/01 and 9/11/01. On 9/11/01 we saw what a complete and utter failure the Gore security overhaul had been.

Now if you’re not too stoned to have followed that, why would you now want him in charge of overhauling the whole planet?

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

If this is “global warming,” I sure hope we get some more of it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

{{{By Dhimmi Danny May 17, 2007 6:07 PM RW: Today’s cartoon nets a comfortable 93%!}}}

I count at least ten sniveling Coward squatters in here, who have been babbling all day long about the most inane bullsh-it, it isn’t possible that these hacks didn’t vote once an hour for each hour that they’ve been here?

And how many of these goonies have ten names registered with the Urinal so they voted ten times every hour for as long as the blog has been open, like, uh, dhimmi danny for instance?

And how many of these toadies work for the AJC and add and subtract votes based on how they want the results to turn out, much like CBS “News” does their polls?

I know how we can find out for sure, put a trick question in place of “do you like the cartoon” tomorrow, like “was luckovich born a slobbering pinko® or did he study how to be one” and see how many of these mouth breathers come in here and start mashing the yes button like they do every day.

Geez.

You know what I mean?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Thats good.

Go Billary!

Indeed.

By Paul

May 17, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Well, we won’t be leaving southwest Asia anytime soon, Iraq or no Iraq. On that I agree, although the reasons are open for discussion.

As for “Billary,” well, I do look forward to the Leno/Dave monologues. Even Luckovich may take a swing at it. It really is a gold mine for humor!

Will he have to change his name to “William Clinton Rodham?” Or will he keep the singular “Bill” as in “Hillary?” I think the latter - a bit more star power, as in “Cher” or “Sting.”

By getalife

May 17, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

So emotional RW,

Think man, he was out of politics dude.

Who’s responsibilty was it on 9/11?

It could not be Gore’s he was gone.

Take a toke man.

Geez.

By N-GA

May 17, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Paul 3:44,

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you make this kind of sweeping observation. The fact that Biden has a position regarding the Sudan does not necessarily reflect the position of the Democratic party. Care to reflect on that post?

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

America wants able government. Government that tells the truth. A government that will balance the budget. Not just borrow and spend. Politicians that are honest with us; not always scaring us to death. America aches for restoration of honor in the world. Bill Clinton will fill the ticket. Hillary will do just fine. Look! We get two for a nickle.

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

{{{By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

Fluck you.

How’s that?}}}

Buy Danish,

LMFAO!!! I’m flattered, but neoCON chicks just don’t do it for me!

By Paul

May 17, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Well, hello N-GA!

You’re correct, I have not. And I did think about it before I posted it - alas, you’re the only one to respond.

It was a rather bald-faced attempt to be a bit provocative, to draw out some discussion. Those indifferent to Biden would let it pass, but I’d hoped, by stating it as a “Democratic” position, to elicit at least some response (such generalizations are used here regularly, but as you correctly observed, I do try to avoid them).

Such a response would have led, I hoped, to a discussion regarding the morality of a Sudan invasion vis-a-vis the circumstances in Iran before the invasion. No one really seems to want to go near that, though.

But I was serious about the remark about how little attention was given to the remark, even during the debate. And if Giuliani or someone else had made the call, I daresay it’d be a topic of discussion.

But I have a sneeking suspicion you’d surmised all that.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Doomsday,

When that same twofer came into the White House last time they had never owned a home. They left after eight years at 200K a year with two fully stocked mansions. Honesty? Integrity?

Profiting off your government service used to be a no no. It probably still is for Republicans, it’s not like you don’t have a double standard for everything.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Why am I not surprised that steve-0 doesn’t like women that think for themselves and bathe regularly?

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

Awwwwww. You mean that when you said Fuuck you to me a few weeks ago, you weren’t flirting with me?

jackass.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

I too “long” for the days of the “muscular” Clinton foreign policy, dead Americans everywhere and us responding by blasting empty warehouses and the Chinese Embassy.

Geez.

I’m sure it will be real different this time, with Hillary being the one munching on the fat little interns in the Oval Office.

Billy will have to settle for sloppy seconds, like he’ll really care.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

{{war and opposition would boost political Islam (which is one of the accomplishments OBL strived for)}}

Good post @ 5:21, Cindy — Bush & his pals have played right along with OBL’s agenda and desires! And how very un-American.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Hillary will drive the right-wing half-wits berserk. So what. She brings a good resume, an excellent record in the Senate, and the respect of her colleagues as a hard worker. This is about good government. At the very least America will stanch the flow of corruption. I’m tired of the steady drip of incompetent azz-kissers next to Bush.

By getalife

May 17, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Geez RW,

Rudy made millions off of 9/11.

Dobson dumped him today so the base will follow.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

{{Past the extreme fundamentalists and on to the more mainstream, do people such as Iran’s Ahmadinejad go away? What’s America’s policy now?}}

So Uber, what’s wrong with going after the real terrorists next? And why and how was the Cold War so successful (took a long time, but no countries had to be invaded and occupied), as compared to Bush’s War on Terrrrr and its results?

By rushncap

May 17, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this

And there goes Wolfie. Oh well. Nice knowing ya. Can we appoint someone competent to the World Bank now?

Stalk — feel free to talk about me now.

By Daniel

May 17, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

RW: The repubican majority in Congress spent over 7.5 Million Dollars and a lot of effort to get Clinton. Remember the pizz-ant Whitewater Investigation? Ken Starr, anyone? Clinton balanced budgets, ran a good ship and the American people love him. It’s adone deeal. Bill-a-ry! Bill-a-ry! Bill-a-ry!

By Buy Danish

May 17, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Does anyone here take marching orders from Dobson?

I don’t and I doubt anyone of the regular conservatives do either. Indeed, we don’t take marching orders from anyone.

Rudy is still on my list - way up at or near the top.

By Goldie

May 17, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

I recall that it was the Repugnants’ great idea in the 40’s to push for term limits on the Prez — we all know that if President Clinton didn’t have a 2-term limit, he would’ve been re-elected by a landslide against Bush Jr. Boy, wouldn’t the world be a much safer and better place today if we still had President Bill?

By steve-o

May 17, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Just when I think that you are a robot, you come back with something funny like the “your momma” comment yesterday and your 6:56 post this evening.

Somewhere there’s a human being beneath that crusty neoCON shell that you shamelessly wear.

By LuckoDull

May 17, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Hillary is an empty pants suit. Any idiot that changes her dialect to pander to the audience she’s speaking to and then tells everyone she knows another language has got nothing going for her, there is zero intellectual activity.

It would take a fat sack of weed to make me say something that ignorant and I’d probably apologize the next day.

This goony is proud of herself.

Name one time this “exalted” “genius” has EVER fielded questions from the opposition, like Bush does every day?

The proof lies before us.

We are not that stupid.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By RW-(the original)

May 17, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

Look at Dmitry hiding out out until the blog closes so he wouldn’t get his a$$ whupped again today.

And now the moment you’ve all been waiting for…..drumroll please……I’ve decided that Cindy is pathetically ignorant.

Great job Cindy!! Not even one attempt at a specific example of BushHitler.

By Swiftvoter

May 23, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

This scene was caught right before Harry Kissinger was called into the White House to pray with the Resident.

These clowns are running scared at the thought that truth just might yet see the light of day (Go Waxman, Go Dems).

Dennis the Menace is right on: Impeach Cheney.

By CPL SCRIP

May 25, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

OK, for all of you folks that enjoy spending all of your time blogging about politics and each other. 1) Get a job, get a life, and for God’s sake get a girlfriend. 2)As far as the War in Iraq. I am A combat Veteran that served in Fallujah, and i know a thing or two about what the loss of a fellow Marine, or Soldier feels like. But , just because people die it does not mean it is time to cut and run. A “strategic withdrawal” isn’t. So you want to win in War. Kick out the media and let the military do there job. That is how you win a war.

By CPL SCRIP

May 25, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

OK, for all of you folks that enjoy spending all of your time blogging about politics and each other. 1) Get a job, get a life, and for God’s sake get a girlfriend. 2)As far as the War in Iraq. I am A combat Veteran that served in Fallujah, and i know a thing or two about what the loss of a fellow Marine, or Soldier feels like. But , just because people die it does not mean it is time to cut and run. A “strategic withdrawal” isn’t. So you want to win in War. Kick out the media and let the military do their job. That is how you win a war.

By CPL SCRIP

May 25, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

OK, for all of you folks that enjoy spending all of your time blogging about politics and each other. 1) Get a job, get a life, and for God’s sake get a girlfriend. 2)As far as the War in Iraq. I am A combat Veteran that served in Fallujah, and i know a thing or two about what the loss of a fellow Marine, or Soldier feels like. But , just because people die it does not mean it is time to cut and run. A “strategic withdrawal” isn’t. So you want to win in War. Kick out the media and let the military do their job. That is how you win a war.