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By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this
{{{I’ll be a single issue voter in 2008. If we don’t win the war on terror, nothing else will matter very much.}}}
Um, ditto.
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{{{All sorts of people can have all sorts of beliefs about what tax rates are best from various points of view. But how can people work themselves into a lather over the fact that some taxpayers are able to keep more of the money they earned, instead of turning it over to politicians to dispense in ways calculated to get themselves re-elected?}}}
Um, ditto.
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{{{No matter how bad or how good Iraq gets from day to day, the war is always reported as a worst case scenario by a mainstream media that hates George Bush more than it loves America. Simply put, the war coverage is being slanted with the conscious intent of demoralizing America’s will to fight, so that a defeat can be hung round the neck of Bush and the GOP. This is a supremely immoral act, since Bush does not have an Army in Iraq — America does.}}}
Um, ditto.
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{{{KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — More than 60 suspected insurgents, including three regional commanders, were killed by airstrikes on two Taliban compounds Tuesday in volatile Kandahar province, the provincial police chief said.}}}
Good riddance.
You’re gonna hate 08®.
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By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
Unearthed! The Justice Department Loyalty Oath written by Monica Goodling:
“I, [state your name], do solemnly swear On, like, the biggest Bible ever, Preferably one from Regent University, That I will faithfully execute my duties As they’re passed down from Karl and Alberto and Monica [Wink at me. Hi!] And occasionally a late-night phone call from a U.S. Senator or Representative from my state. And will, to the best of my ability, Prosecute any and all Democrats on voter fraud charges, I mean really grind my boot into their face until they’re unrecognizable, And they need, like, a hundred and eighty stitches in their Democrat heads, No matter how bogus the charges are, And they will, trust me, be bogus as hell, I will go after them, their families, their pets, Their careers and their friends. I will dig up the bodies of their relatives and mock them, And I will go through their trash twice a day. And I will never prosecute people in my own party, No matter how corrupt they are, Because that would be like punching my mom in the mouth. One nation, under, like, the most awesomest God, A Christian God, of course, evangelical and heterosexual, And the most awesomest President, George W. Bush. And one more thing…I will NEVER breath a word of this to anyone. And if I’m ever subpoenaed, I’ll print all my emails and then burn them, So they’ll be destroyed for good. Go, JUSTICE! Go, JESUS! Go, BUSH! Go, REPUBLICANS! Amen.
Congratulations. You’re in.
By AntiRadical
May 15, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Is ML serious? With all that is going on the world, who cares about how well Katie Couric mimes the news?
The new Commonwealth Fund Report was released today and it says the same thing it has said for quite a long while. “The United States is not getting value for the money that is spent on health care.”
Our nation desperately needs to jettison the hodge-podge, hap-hazard, cobbled-together system of healthcare that has evolved in response to managed-care reforms instituted since the ‘80s and replace it with an efficient system of Universal Health Care that will better serve the public at large.
Cont: Article excerpts posted next in order to satisfy blog character/post rules
By AntiRadical
May 15, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this
U.S. Healthcare Expensive, Inefficient: Report
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans get the poorest health care and yet pay the most compared to five other rich countries, according to a report released on Tuesday. Germany, Britain, Australia and Canada all provide better care for less money.
“The U.S. health care system ranks last compared with five other nations on measures of quality, access, efficiency, equity, and outcomes,” the non-profit group which studies health care issues said in a statement. The group has consistently found that the United States, the only one of the six nations that does not provide universal health care, scores more poorly than the others on many measures of health care.
“It is pretty indisputable that we spend twice what other countries spend on average,” she said. Per capita health spending in the United States in 2004 was $6,102, twice that of Germany, which spent $3,005. Canada spent $3,165, New Zealand $2,083 and Australia $2,876, while Britain spent $2,546 per person.
“We focus primarily on measures that are sensitive to medical care making a difference — infant mortality and healthy lives at age 60,” Davis said. “Those are pretty key measures, like if your children will survive infancy and whether you are going to die before age 75.”
They also looked at convenience and again found the United States lacking — with a few exceptions. “We include measures such as waiting more than four months for elective, non-emergency surgery. The United States doesn’t do as well as Germany but it does a lot better than the other countries on waiting time for surgery,” Davis said.
“We looked at the time it takes to get in to see your own doctor … (or) once you go to the emergency room do you sit there for more than two hours, and truthfully, we don’t do well on those measures,” Davis said.
The United States had the fewest patients — 84 percent — reporting that they have a regular doctor. And U.S. doctors are the least wired, with the lowest percentage using electronic medical records or receiving electronic updates on recommended treatments.
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
In a letter to the editor someone suggested that our troops should be able to take two months off along with the Iraqi Parliament. EXCELLENT IDEA!
By Florida
May 15, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this
That is the funniest, most accurate, and downright insightful caricature of that news demon Katie Courik I’ve ever seen.
Homerun, Luckovich
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
Major General (ret.) Paul D. Eaton is the second former commander on the ground in Iraq to declare that the President did not listen to his commanders, and is still not listening, when it comes to the war in Iraq. This comes on the heels of an ad that shook the political world last week, when former Iraq commanding general, Major General (ret.) John Batiste became the first former commander from the war to take to the paid airwaves to say the same thing.
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
“Jane Fonda ratted out an American P.O.W. to his North Vietnamese captors, for the “infraction” of trying to communicate with her.”
No, she did not. This is a lie.
http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp
Why do you lie?
By DebbieDoRight
May 15, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this
In the News….too funny!!!! It was the most awsomest!!!
By Peter
May 15, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Jane Fonda did what?
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
from Peter’s link:
“It’s a figment of somebody’s imagination,” says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. “I never met Jane Fonda,” he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message.
Again I ask our Stupidest Troll on the Internets: Why do you lie?
By The Watcher
May 15, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
They lie because it’s all they have got left.
By Buy Danish
May 15, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Anti-Radical,
Gosh, I wonder why our emergency rooms are overcrowded. Could it have something to do with the millions of illegal immigrants who overwhelm our services?
Later…
By @@
May 15, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Who the heck cares about Katie Couric ml?
If I had to guess what her problem is; I’d say that the principle component contributing to her demise is the “Peter”, or lack thereof. Kinda like the main”stream” media.
It’s their “Flo”…
they just don’t cut it, but should.
By AntiRadical
May 15, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
BD- The same problems with provision of services to immigrants, also,exists in those UHC societies that you decry with such fervor. In fact, Britain has it mush worse than we do in that respect (all those dependent colonials).
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan- “The trouble with (today’s conservative) is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
U.N. Official Says He’s Been Denied Access to U.S. Immigrant Jails
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
Dude, there are pictures of Jane Fonda sitting on a North Vietnamese aircraft gun.
“Lie” about that.
Suckas-s mofo.
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By Truthsayer
May 15, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Luckovich got one right, but as they say even as stopped clock… However, you libs still don’t get why not only CBS has ratings in the toilet, so do the Arab Broadcasting Co. and the Nazi Broadcasting Co. The big three together only have 30 million viewers a night. This is not just cable. This is also because the coverage is so slanted and left-wing p.c. opinion driven as to make it completely irrelevant. Just look at what happened in France this past week and think for a little while. Segolene Royal was backed by the great majority of the European press, but because socialism is irrelevant, their slant meant less and less. People, at least those with the ablitity to think for themselves, are seeking out other sources of news because they know lies when they hear or read them. I wonder if the AJC’s brilliant publishers and editors have asked themselves why their cirulcation is in the dust bin?
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Ever since Vice President Spiro Agnew denounced news outlets that were offending the Nixon administration in the autumn of 1969, the specter has been much more often cited than sighted. “The liberal media” is largely an apparition — but the epithet serves as an effective weapon, brandished against journalists who might confront social inequities and imbalances of power.
By Florida
May 15, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
3 missing soldiers. Al queda? The last time we searched for a missing soldier in Sadr City, we were told to get the F out of there and stop looking. Bush complied. I dont think anyone’s mentioned that poor soldier to Bush/Rush since. I wonder what happened to him. Hannity wont mention him, cause Hannity wont allow ratings to drop by confronting the truth, or dealing with messy realities that dont conform to spin.
The problem with that 3 missing soldier report is that Bush/Rush has no data about the Al Queda constituency. How large are the cells? Average Profile? How are they supplied? How many men? Clones? Wannabe’s? Copy Cats? It’s easy to say you’re al queda? What is al queda?
Bush/Rush has no info. In fact, the depth and breadth of Bush’s Iraq Adventure is still alarming the most cautious and reluctant of those who voted for this war. We still dont really know what kind of animal Iraq is becoming. It’s still forming, evolving, and anything can happen.
The visit by the 11 concerned conservatives to the white house last week is misleading. Even though it provides a ray of hope that a veto overriding majority is forming in congress, it suggests a different scenario.
The reality of Iraq is slowly following the news reports back to the US. There is a truth about what Bush has unleashed that will astonish and frighten. The fact that most Republicans are four years behind the curve of Liberal Wisdom about this war means that soon the truth will be uttered by respected members of the Republican Party and those words coming out of those mouths will shake up this country like never before.
What have we done? We’re about to understand. The pathetic conservative blogs about Iraq, so simplistic and ignorant about the reality on the ground and what’s evolving and what’s already irreversible, will destroy the Party. Let them spew. Let Rush/Hannity make fools out of themselves. Watch as they start to try to spin their way out of it. Watch as they say, “Uh, I was just trying to show the country, during that last 1000 broadcasts, how liberals think the war is going, see, they want to stay the course and destroy the “al queders” in Iraq, and ignore the civil war, but we conservatives know better, we were against the war, but we had to show everyone that it’s the liberals who are for the war and stuff. Honest, I was just tryi
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
We all saw those photos. Many people criticized Fonda for what she acknowledged to have done. I am one of those people. Her visit to North Vietnam and willingness to be a propaganda stooge is not in dispute.
What is being disputed is why you continue to lie.
Answer the question, Stupidest Troll on the Internets. You know that the story about betraying a POW is a lie. You knew that before you posted it; the story has been debunked for years.
Why do you tell lies?
By Florida
May 15, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
They should let Paris deliver the CBS news from her prison.
She would get a 100 share rating. Not one person would miss one second of those broadcasts, and it would change tv forever.
Paris!
Dont forget that Paris wears virtually nothing under those skimpy federal prison outfits. Nothing at all. Are you starting to see the possibilities, people?
It’s going to be a hot summer.
Hot.
Paris!
By Peter
May 15, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
‘Dull - 09:04 - “Dude, there are pictures of Jane Fonda sitting on a North Vietnamese aircraft gun.” is justification for your lie or are you changing the subject because you got caught?
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Since the Stupidest Troll on the Internets refuses to own up to why he lies, let’s speculate, shall we?
1) Habit. Telling the Big Lie over and over again is so ingrained in the RW Troll mindset they simply can’t help themselves. They seem especially susceptible to lies about the military; remember their ridiculous obsession with John Kerry’s botched punchline, and how they pretended he was speaking about “the troops,” and not GWB?
2) Desperation. With <30% approval these days, the neocons have nothing new, so they are forced to recycle old nonsense.
3) Mental disorder. Only The Stupidest Troll on the Internets’ shrink knows for sure.
Any other suggestions? Join in, won’t you?
By Florida
May 15, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
The Iraqis are telling us with every word and act that they would rather start over in the stone age than spend another minute under US occupation.
They dont want any part of any US ideas.
If we are stupid enough to ever leave Iraq, then they will hang every member of the elected parliament shortly afterwards. That’s a fact.
We are trapped in Iraq forever. that’s the first truth that Rush/Hannity must broadcast. We are not electing to stay, but rather we are being forced to stay.
Hannity/Rush has never ever once admitted that the Iraqi Parliament is mostly Shia. Never. They probably dont know about it, or they dont know what it means. No, they would rather look at the Fort Dix Six, and rant all day long about how liberals want to free them because they were discovered by unconstitutional methods, or some spin like that.
The Fort Dix Six would have been cut down at the gates of Fort Dix. They had no real plan, instead, were drawn along by FBI infiltrators who probably came up with all the ideas, as stupid as they were. Sounds like a Bush plan to me. There are very many similarities in the Iraq Invasion plan and the Fort Dix attack plan. Probably the same genius wrote both.
The CIA says that Plan B was to burn a pile of Dixie Chicks records.
Also, Rush uses the Fort Dix Six to prove that al queda is here and the war on terror is real and Iraq is the front lines. Try to follow the logic. You’re head will implode. The man’s mind has obviously been fried by RX.
And I think it’s a damn shame.
By Cindy
May 15, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
Look at the neo con leaders. They all lie. So these poor folks are just following the leader because they don’t know better. They figure if they can lie to make the left look bad it is worth a try (look at how success the swiftboat people were with their lies). They have NO integrity. These neocons are a pathetic bunch and the Republicans can have them.
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Law School Classmates Criticize Gonzales
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
VOTE FRAUD FRAUD UPDATE. New evidence suggests that the failure of U.S. Attorneys to pursue bogus vote fraud changes was an even bigger factor in the DOJ’s political purge than was previously known:
By getalife
May 15, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
Today, Wolfie is fired.
Kudos to McNulty for showing some decency and resigning.
Many should follow his lead.
Katie is a wingnut and should be fired.
Then you have this b-itch
Pathetic.
By Goldie
May 15, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Maybe some of these trolls can tell us who the real “conservatives” are that remain in the Repug Party today… I have co-workers who state that they no longer call themselves “Republican” because that party has gone too far in its lunatic ideology.
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
“Then you have this b-itch”
That is really, really unfair to all the loyal, kind, loving female canines out there, to compare them to “Dr.” Laura.
By Hey, Moron
May 15, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Luck,
The tactic of a terrorist is to instill fear. To cause those who are afraid to do that which they would not otherwise do. To cause certain members of the terrorized society to turn on their fellow citizens.
I understand that you are afraid. You demonstrate it everyday. You are a scared little child in a dangerous world who believes that there are enemies among you, including a substantial portion of your countryman(libs). Therefore the Terrorists have won the battle of Luck. They can stick their flag in your chest and declare “Mission Accomplished.”
However, many of the rest of us are not afraid. We were not afraid of the British Empire, Japan or Nazi Germany and we will not let a rag tag bunch of nut cases destroy the country from within or without.
You, personally, have lost the war on terror. Can you summon the decency to shut up and let the rest of us Americans, liberal, independent or conservative, win it? Now go crawl into your whole while the rest of us in a bipartisan way, make Bush irrelevant and end this stupid, stupid war.
Loser. Coward. Idiot.
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
The Song Parody From Hell Posted by SalmonChantedEvening in General Discussion Fri Apr 13th 2007, 06:47 PM Yep, based on a dare yet again.
Lies By The Flock (By These People Enfold Me) To the tune of Life Is A Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me) By Reunion (Norman Dolph-Paul DiFranco-Joey Levine)
Dusty Foggo playing poker, Cunningham got dealt the joker Conrad Black a thief not petty, I almost miss Don Segretti Condoleeza buying Prada, pyramids and boarding water Rick Santorum, Bunning, Issa, Scooter Libby turning Aspens Raisin Brain and Sensenbrenner, Coleman, Mehlman, flacid Boehner Sam Alito, Judge Ray Moore and Kyle Sampson call the jury Neil Cavuto, F*******, Arlen Specter, Brownie’s FEMA Jeffries Terry, Malkin, Bremmer, Mean Jean Schmidt and Chuck Krauthammer
Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by dittoheads and toadies
Jello Billo mics he’s cuttin’, Drudge is writing something rotten Ari Fleischer, Simple Scotty, Coulter, Imus, mouths of potty Faux and Friends is group psychosis, Bill Frist gives good diagnosis OxyRush and David Limbaugh, Jimmy Dobson, Janet’s Parshall Donny Rummy, unknown knowns and hey who knew and golly jeepers Dr. Laura getting meaner, Tom Delay and Savage Weiner Stop me please my brain is meltin, Romney, Giuliani, Weldon Foley’s emails really creepy, Gannon gets Ted Haggard weepy
Roberts, Olson, Orrin, Schaffly, Falwell, Uncle Chuckles, Gaffney Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by dittoheads and toadies
Tucker dancin’, Cheyney huntin’, Bolton screamin’, Hunter Duncan Infernos that would frighten Dante, Tenet, Bennett, Negroponte Stevens and his tubes and bridges, Glenn Beck is a rash that itches IRS and Halliburton, CIA it looks like curtains Hannity’s his own aroma, Senators from Oklahoma Tweety Chris and Goldberg Jonah, Timmy, Tammy, Charen Mona Lieberman, McCain a-huggin’, Kool-Aid by the vat they’re chuggin’ Newtie, Rita, Greta, Lugar, Karl Rove, the Chimp’s Rasputin
On the networks and on cable, rest assured we’ll push the fable Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
DARN TOO LONG HERE”S THE REST>>>>
On the networks and on cable, rest assured we’ll push the fable Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by dittoheads and toadies
Mission (Dismembered!) they’ve got it all wrong
Spin it, Sell it, Roger Ailes me, Maggie, Armstrong singin’ pay me MSABCBS me, real reporting might impress me
(Whatta buncha liars!)
By AntiRadical
May 15, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Another favorite RR quote:
“However, our task is far from over. Our friends in the other party will never forgive us for our success, and are doing everything in their power to rewrite history. Listening to the liberals, you’d think that the 1980’s were the worst period since the Great Depression, filled with suffering and despair. I don’t know about you, but I’m getting awfully tired of the whining voices from the White House these days. They’re claiming there was a decade of greed and neglect, but you and I know better than that. We were there.”- Ronald Reagan, Speech at 1994 Gala for 83rd Birthday (1994-02-03)
Being a RR fan, I am often reminded of the irony of the former President’s words. In retrospect, I have now lived through the ’90s, as well, and seen the same words to be applicable to the Reps as regards their admonishment of Clinton’s prosperous tenure during the ’90s. I expect these words will always hold true from one administration change to the next, such is the nature of American hubris.
From my own experience, the ’80s were very good to me; so were the ’90s and I’m still doing as well, today. Contrary to pronouncements from the radical right/left, whether led by cons or libs, America has remained the greatest place to live in the world. I expect the same will hold true in the future, as well, regardless of pronouncements from doomsday prophets from either side of the aisle.
By SarahConnah
May 15, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this
Katie’s ratings have gone down the poop chute. And with the proper camera working, we could watch it happen live!
Pardon the pun.
Curtsie!
By @@
May 15, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
No doom and gloom from where I sit AntiR. Here’s my favorite among Reagan’s many great speeches:
“I won a nickname, ‘The Great Communicator.’ But I never thought it was my style or the words I used that made a difference: it was the content. I wasn’t a great communicator, but I communicated great things, and they didn’t spring full bloom from my brow, they came from the heart of a great nation — from our experience, our wisdom and our belief in the principles that have guided us for two centuries.”
By reebok
May 15, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
I’ve watched Katie read the news a few times…I don’t think she’s any better or worse than any of the other talking heads…I have a hard time understanding her massive unpopularity. This is a pretty funny cartoon, albeit about an unimportant subject.
BTW, the “Jane Fonda ratted out a POW” story isn’t true. If you hate Jane Fonda, that’s fine. It’s your right. I don’t like her myself. But why isn’t the truth good enough? Why do you have to pollute the discussion with lies?
By Curious Observer
May 15, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
I can give you the reason I stopped watching CBS News after the Couric hiring: if I want a talk show host, instead of a journalist, to deliver the news, I can tune into The View. CBS showed massive and cynical disrespect for intelligent viewers by making such a hire. I don’t care what the political leanings or the gender of a news anchor are, but I at least expect a news anchor to have a solid background in journalism.
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
Yes, it’s war camp! Thanks to Lt. Colonel Oliver North, who is not even an ex-con (because his felony conviction was overturned on the sort of technicality that right-wingers normally disdain), your teenager can spend the summer roughing it in military barracks and doing some basic training—without actually doing any military service at all.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
First link I checked, nothing yet but I wanted to share this:
{{{In 1972 Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden and others traveled to North Vietnam to give their support to the North Vietnamese’s Government. When she returned to the United States, she advised the news media that all of the American Prisoners of War were being well treated and were not being tortured. As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda’s earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with groups such as Jane Fonda’s. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being “hypocrites and liars.”}}}
That being from an American soldier, who’s word I have no doubts about at all.
You sniveling Cowards can speak for “Hanoi” Jane Fonda.
POS.
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By POD!
May 15, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
POD!
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By bon scott
May 15, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
Katie Couric is actually a good, experienced journalist who, unfortunately, is getting smeared by people who only remember her “interviews” with Burt Reynolds and her “fun with cute/gross” animals on the Today show.
If you want to talk shallow, talk ex Today host Deborah Norville.
Unfortunately, CBS is trying to instantly transform her into the next John Chanchellor, minus the gonads. A terrible mistake. I don’t watch her. Charles Gibson and Brian Williams (in that order) are so much better. But she can’t be that unhappy. At $15 million a year, I wouldn’t be in too big of a funk.
Hey, cAndy-man, I see here you’ve drifted back into your habit of not linking, or even attributing your quotes. Lazy, or just drunk again? BTW, used to work as a counselor at a clinic, which is why I know how junkies pulverize OxyContin (Rush’s favorite pick-me-up), and why I know the telltale signs of acute alchoholism. Which you exhibit in spades.
By jacksonwolff
May 15, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Myth: the mainstream media leans to the left
Truth: they leans in the direction of ratings.
a newscast producer would slap his mama, while exposing himself, while selling his soul to the devil, on live television, IF he thought it would get the ratings high enough.
We, as responsible citizens, should do our own research, and make up our own damn minds, no matter what side you are on.
By Jack666
May 15, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Jane Fonda was appropriately condemned for her flippant dismissal of complaints of mistreatment of POW’s. I have yet to hear, however, of any claim of mistreatment as bad as Bush has allowed in US run camps. Where’s your outrage against your man Bush?
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
DESPICABLE DERBY 2ND HEAT
JANE FONDA VS. GEORGE BUSH
JANE FONDA VS. DICK CHENEY
JANE FONDA VS. BILL KRISTOL
JANE FONDA VS. SEAN HANNITY
JANE FONDA VS. TOM DELAY
JANE FONDA VS. REP. FOLEY
JANE FONDA VS. RUSH LIMBAUGH
FONDA DOES NOT WIN THE HEAT!
By Truthman
May 15, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Jane Fonda rules!
You wish your fat, old wife looked as good in her 60s as does Ms. Fonda.
Your hate is so misplaced with folk like Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz and Gonzales still on the taxpayer’s dole - talk about corporate welfare!!!
Go for it, Jane! We KNOW we’re all on the correct side of history!
By Truthman
May 15, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Jane Fonda rules!
You wish your fat, old wife looked as good in her 60s as does Ms. Fonda.
Your hate is so misplaced with folk like Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz and Gonzales still on the taxpayer’s dole - talk about corporate welfare!!!
Go for it, Jane! We KNOW we’re all on the correct side of history!
By Jim
May 15, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Peter, Even if “your report” is accurate, I ask, what was the b*** doing there sucking up to the NVR’s?
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
Election Theft Goes Global
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
JIM IS THAT YOU?
By Jim
May 15, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Bet your sweet arse it is
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
I CAN SPOT YOUR POSTS A MILE AWAY
WE DISAGREE
BUT YOU SIR…..I KNOW TO BE A GREAT AMERICAN
BE SAFE……..
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
I’m gonna dog you Cowards:
David Hoffman, a former POW who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1971, said that he had been tortured because of Fonda’s visit to Hanoi. “The torture resulted in a permanent injury that plagues me to this day,” says Hoffman, who suffers a disfigured arm inflicted by brutal communist guards at the POW camp known as the “Zoo.” “When Jane Fonda turned up, she asked that some of us come out and talk with her,” he recalled bitterly. “No one wanted to. The guards got very upset, because they sensed the propaganda value of a famous American war protestor proving how well they were treating us.
You pig socialist mutherfvckers may not see anything wrong with this, but I do.
Hanoi Jane is the scum of the Earth.
I’m biting the hell out of my tongue right now.
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By jim
May 15, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
Dear IN THE NEWS You are right (haha) we will never agree on this subject. If she is such a hero, why wan’t she visiting our troops in SOUTH VIETNAM, rather than patronizing with the enemy. And Truthman, I’ll take my beautiful wife over Hanoi Jane any day of the week, even if Hanoi Jane wasn’t a traitor.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
You want links, scumbag?:
Jane Fonda applauding an NVA anti-aircraft gun crew. These guns were used to shoot down American planes and contributed to the deaths of American Airmen.
I got links.
You got Cowardice.
POS
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By Truthsayer
May 15, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
Jack666 - If you have not heard of the horrible deprivations and completely inhumane treatment received by US POWs during the Vietnam War, then you have either never paid attention or you just are completely and wilfully ingnorant on the subject. Read Jeremiah Denton’s book. There are other sources as well. Abu Graib in no way compares to the horrors of the Hanoi Hilton. By the way, your chosen handle must signify your belief - in all that is evil!
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
{{{By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
I got links.
You got Cowardice.}}}
So you’re not a coward because you have weblinks?
ROTFLMAO!!! Dork.
By MCI
May 15, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
Just testing.
By Lord Help Us
May 15, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Good Heavens!!
Republicans (except those on this blog) have thrown in the towel on the Bush Administration!
According to last month’s Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times national survey, Republicans by a 2-to-1 margin want the next president to move away from Bush’s policies.
Ouch baby…very ouch…
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Look^^ at the Urinal censoring my first post.
{{{Will my generation ever forgive Jane Fonda for being right about Vietnam?-The Atlanta Journal Constitution}}}
At a time when 50,000 U.S. servicemen had already died on the battlefields of Vietnam, Fonda sided with the communists, making radio broadcasts from Hanoi designed to break the morale of U.S. fighting forces while encouraging the North Vietnamese to fight harder and kill more Americans. Fonda’s Hanoi radio broadcasts and propaganda films were especially painful and damaging to American servicemen held as prisoners of war by the Hanoi Reds. Communist interrogators used the Fonda recordings, along with starvation and torture in attempting to brainwash American POWs.
Censor this, AJC.
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By Mike
May 15, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Really funny how all these old draft dodgers talking about Jane Fonda. Most of these old draft dodgers got us into this Iraq war now. Another funny was Ms Fonda, a lot of Viet vets then and a lot of people now dont want this war brought on by a group of people who always seem to never partake. For you on here who always have so much patriotism, join the army or send your kids to the recruiters. one old vet
By Peter
May 15, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Jim - - As an active duty military veteran (1969-1973), and against the Vietnam “conflict” at the time, I supported anti-war efforts. (Jane has regrets and apologized for youthful indiscretions.) The war on Vietnamese (and Iraqis) is far worse than her transgressions. We should not have been there to begin with. I expect there will be plenty of finger pointing when this quagmire is reviewed decades in the future, but the blame should be focused on Duh-bya’s administration for the invasion and all consequences (human toll, environmental and cultural destruction and financial burden).
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
{{{By Peter May 15, 2007 12:42 PM The war on Vietnamese (and Iraqis) is far worse than her transgressions.}}}
1) Why did your political party vote for the wars, both of them?
2) Why won’t they cut off funding for Iraq?
3) Why don’t you go live in Vietnam or Iraq and fight against the United States instead of doing it from safely within it’s protected borders?
Coward.
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By Peter
May 15, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
“SUPPORT OUR TROOPS” does not mean sending them into battle and cheering from the comfort of your daily routine.
Who sent our young men to Vietnam and demanded 58,195 sacrifice their lives? Robert McNamara (architect of the Vietnam war) made apologies for his role in the conflict. Where is the vilification of those who sent troops into battle and POW status? (Jane Fonda is a distraction from the real issues.)
BRING THE TROOPS HOME (let the war funding veto stand).
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
JIM IM SURE YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE APPRECIATES YOUR COMMENTS.
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Rev. Falwell found unconscious. CNN reports, “The Rev. Jerry Falwell arrived at Lynchburg General Hospital today around noon after being found unresponsive in his office. Ron Godwin, the executive vice president of Liberty University, confirmed that Falwell was found unconscious in his office after missing an appointment this morning.”
CANT STAND THIS GUYS POLITICS< BUT HOPE HE”S OK
By Peter (my 4 years of active duty say otherwise)
May 15, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
Al Gore - 9/23/2002 (before the invasion for you historically challenged)
“The resulting chaos in the aftermath of a military victory in Iraq could easily pose a far greater danger to the United States than we presently face from Saddam. Here’s why I say that; we know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological weapons and chemical weapons throughout his country. As yet, we have no evidence, however, that he has shared any of those weapons with terrorist groups. If the administration has evidence that he has, please present it, because that would change the way we all look at this thing.”
By Midori
May 15, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Where did all this conversation about Jane Fonda come from?
Your “boogeyman/woman” of the day, Andy?
I can’t wait to read your cogent thoughts about Tokyo Rose.
By Peter
May 15, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
‘Dull - since you have little regard to citizens of foreign countries. Imagine these numbers in American casualties:
Viet Nam has been one of the most heavily bombed countries in the world. Over 100,000 people have been killed or maimed by landmines and unexploded ordnance (UXO) since the end of the war with the United States in 1975.
Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq : 63,744 - 69,795
By MM
May 15, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
The Jane Fonda subject came up because the rightwingnuts are following the directions on their cue card.
When pinned in a corner, change the subject to something irrelevant.
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this
What’s the over-under on the number of times that Andy has masturbated to “Barbarella”?
By getalife
May 15, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Colbert was one lucky man.
Shocking testimony on CNN today
Falwell has died.
By Lord Help Us
May 15, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Funny Steve-o!
Substitute ‘Bush in his flight suit’ for ‘Barbarella’ and you’ll have to up the hi-lo!
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
MM wrote:
“When pinned in a corner, change the subject to something irrelevant.”
I don’t mind the Stupidest Troll on the Internets posting endless nonsense about Jane Fonda’s 35-year-old propaganda trek. Have at it. See if someone cares.
I do mind him lying, and I do mind his failure to acknowledge the lie.
By Bookie
May 15, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
“What’s the over-under on the number of times that Andy has masturbated to “Barbarella”?”
I think that over/under would be better suited for Truthman @ the 11:37’s.
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
Comey Breaks Silence: White House Tried To Force Incapacitated Ashcroft To Back Spying Program
By Midori
May 15, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this
Andy must be beside himself - his heroic gay-bashing, liar masquerading as a preacher has finally been called home.
Is that why you’re so fixated on Jane, Andy?
By The Watcher
May 15, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Boy would I like to be a fly on the wall just outside the Pearly Gates right now.
By getalife
May 15, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this
“I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians, … the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this [terrorist attack: 9/11] happen.” Jerry Falwell, 700 Club, 2001-SEP-13.
†
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Hope it’s nice ‘n warm where you’re headed, Falwell.
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Jerry Falwell is dead
By ABS
May 15, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
Here’s my favorite Falwell quote…
“Blow them all away in the name of the lord.”
By Tinky Winky
May 15, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
I am saddened to hear of Rev. Falwell’s demise. I bear him no ill will and forgive him completely for outing me
By jacksonwolff
May 15, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Enough with the slamming of Falwell
That can wait till a little while.
we should show some dignity, and just keep quiet about him for 24 hours, if for no other reason, to show that we have the respect that so few on the right have shown the rest of the world.
By Lord Help Us
May 15, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
People…PLEASE!
A good man has passed! I understand that many have their reasons for disliking Rev. Falwell, but, he was a good man.
Do not lose sight of the many charitable organizations around the world that he sponsored, nor the hope and sustenance provided to needy people by his charities.
Rev. Falwells’ family, loved ones and congregation are mourning their loss and should be respected.
By Just sayin'
May 15, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
You nasty liberals have zero respect for the dead.
ZERO.
Many may not agree with his opinions but did he ever harm you?
There will be a warm seat in hell waiting for you too.
By Do We Respect This?
May 15, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from Falwell’s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour’s tax-exempt status for 1986-87
1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his “Old Time Gospel Hour” to hawk a scurrilous video called “The Clinton Chronicles” that makes a number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton—among them that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders of political enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the project, evidence surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG’s Pat Matrisciana later admitted that Falwell and he staged an infomercial interview promoting the video in which a silhouetted reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) “That was Jerry’s idea to do that,” Matrisciana recalled. “He thought that would be dramatic.”
November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty University’s financial woes. The donation, and several Falwell appearances at Moon conferences, raised eyebrows because Moon claims to be the messiah sent to complete the failed mission of Jesus Christ, a doctrine sharply at odds with Falwell’s fundamentalist Christian theology. (In 1978, before the Moon money started flowing, Falwell told Esquire magazine, “Reverend Sun Myung Moon is like the plague: he exploits boys and girls, and he should be exported.”)
Respect must be earned. His behavior did not deserve it.
By FALWELL IN HELL
May 15, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Anyone who uses religion to beat down his fellow man and spends his whole career acting in a most unchristian like manner isn’t worthy of dignity. Falwell used religion to further an unAmerican agenda as well.
By FALWELL IN HELL
May 15, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
Who’s to say it wasn’t God who struck him down?
By FALWELL IN HELL
May 15, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
By the way - don’t assume I’m a liberal. I hate hypocrisy no matter which side of the aisle it pops up on.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
I see the left, with the exception of LHU, is showing their true colors again.
Sick, sick, sick®
RIP Reverend Falwell
By Midori
May 15, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
and you evil, nasty, war mongering republicans have no respect for the living.
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
I have a huge problem with Falwell’s past statements and actions. He had a very negative impact on politics in the US. However, I am also going to show some respect by not joining in the hate-fest.
By Do We Respect This?
May 15, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Respect for the dead - sure we got it.
We won’t leave the body laying about. We won’t raid the grave.
We also won’t pretend that we think he was ever truly a man of God.
Most everything out of his mouth was using God’s name in vain.
This is a man who called Desmond TuTu a phony.
By FALWELL IN HELL
May 15, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original) - I’m on the right. Am I supposed to fall in line and act as if Falwell represented me just because he manipulated religion for the sake of my party? He was a hypocrite.
By rushncap
May 15, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
I will not mourn Falwell, but let’s hold off dumping on him for a few days. He was not a good human being, but let’s let his family and friends grieve. There will be ample time to remind everyone of his deeds later.
By jacksonwolff
May 15, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this
I didn’t say that you had to respect him, but at least show some respect for the dead in general. As a gay american male, I don’t particularly care for him, or his message, but as a southerner, I will keep my mouth shut at least till his family has a chance to mourn.
I would expect the same from my friends on the right if, say, Al Sharpton where to pass away.
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
My condolensces to the Falwell family…
By @@
May 15, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
I never liked Falwell either, but his family; children…grandchildren?
They’re innocents.
You people never cease to amaze me.
You just aren’t human.
By Do We Respect This?
May 15, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Innocents?
The only thing required for evil to succeed is for the good to do nothing.
By Midori
May 15, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
BEEP
WHIR
BEEP
YOU ARE CORRECT, @@
By georgia 74
May 15, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
” You can be a king or a streetsweeper, but sooner or later you have to dance with the grim reeper.” Robert Alton Harris. See you Jerry.
By jacksonwolff
May 15, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
amazing, just as many people on the left have expressed their condolensces to the family, as have bashed the late revrend, and those on the right are still trying to make out as if all of those on the left are evil dead-bashers. hell, one of those bashing claims to be on the right
By Chris Riker
May 15, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
Curious what you might do with ABC’s announcement that the Cavemen will be set in Atlanta, presumably home of racists.
By ABS
May 15, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
My goodness…you want to read some really bad Reverend bashing…they have opened a blog….
By @@
May 15, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
jacksonwolff:
My “you people” was intended for anyone who would display such abhorrent behavior.
RW excluded LHU. Delay in the posting here may have hindered acknowledgement.
I do commend those who have refrained from behaving cruelly.
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Holy Moly the comments here are compliments compared to the comments on the Falwell blog.
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
Have some respect for Falwell.
The man was a street fighter, a politico. He never minced words. I see no point, I see no reason to imagine that it somehow respects the man’s memory, not to note what an SOB he could be.
If there is an afterlife (and I want to believe that there is, and no, contrary to my snarky earlier comment, I do not believe there is a Hell because I don’t think God is a jerk) he’s getting to know the souls of men and women he thought were inferior to him. And that’s where he’ll find, finally, the enlightenment that eluded him in this world.
Happy now?
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
May 15, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
-=-
I have no love for Falwell because of the many things he has done to the detriment of others while gaining much for himself, but I will not make light of his death.
I am not the one he must now face and be “judged by” for his life’s actions and deeds. My opinion means nothing when it comes to Mr Falwell now.
Rest in Peace - Jerry Falwell
Thomas/PNAC
By ABS
May 15, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
MpeachW, That’s what I was referring too…whew! There’s some real hate mongers over there.
Okay, I’m changing the subject. I’m at work and I’m bored with a headache. Somebody tell me a joke.
By Do We Respect This?
May 15, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
{{{{Yes, no one likes speaking ill of the dead. But we don’t whitewash a life of bigotry and intolerance simply because the man is now gone. Al Sharpton (not a presidential candidate, but still) has already praised Falwell - that’s absurd. Falwell supported apartheid, Mr. Sharpton. Falwell accused you and me of having caused September 11. Dead or alive, that is not the kind of man who deserves our praise. Jerry Falwell wasn’t afraid of being a bigot in life, we shouldn’t be afraid of calling him one in death}}}}
By I'll bet
May 15, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
the posters at Falwell’s blog are the liberals who have been waiting to bust open that bottle upon hearing about his death.
RIP Reverend Falwell.
By Midori
May 15, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
MpeachW,
could I get the web address for that blog?
By liberals underground
May 15, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Nice buncha folks!
By Do We Respect This?
May 15, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Honest Folks
By Brian Curtis
May 15, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
The death of Falwell deserves exactly as much respect as the death of Saddam, and for the same reasons.
Let’s hope his family is bearing up under the strain… but the man himself? Good riddance to evil.
By ABS
May 15, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
Midori, Here you go…
Fallwell blog
By Midori
May 15, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
I’ll bet,
heck, I have a whole case of bubbly earmarked for when you kick the bucket!!
By Midori
May 15, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
thank you, ABS. :)
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
Midori - Here it is
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Sorry - ABS beat me to it. Also I failed to thanks ABS for mentioning it in the first place. Thanks ABS.
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Taliban replaces slain commander, Abdullah Rullah Dadullah, with his brother, Anna Banna Fofanna Me My Momanna
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
{{{By Midori May 15, 2007 1:07 PM Where did all this conversation about Jane Fonda come from? Your “boogeyman/woman” of the day, Andy?}}}
I thought you didn’t read my posts?
Anyway, this was in the Urinal’s Vent section:
{{{Will my generation ever forgive Jane Fonda for being right about Vietnam?}}}
P-iss on her.
You know what I mean?
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By ABS
May 15, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
MpeachW, Hey! You’re welcome! That’s some REAL ugliness over there.
By Just getting started
May 15, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
at Wonkette.
Jerry Falwell has died at 73.
(((Damn. So just how fat was that vile old f*** anyways?)))
By ABS
May 15, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
MpeachW, Your last post was the joke I needed…thanks…
the Falwell blog is closed now…short lived…really ugly.
By Brian Curtis
May 15, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
Wait a minute… are they SURE he’s dead?
Shouldn’t Bill “Video Doctor” Frist do a remote diagnosis to check for brain activity first?
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
{{{By FALWELL IN HELL May 15, 2007 2:25 PM By the way - don’t assume I’m a liberal. I hate hypocrisy no matter which side of the aisle it pops up on.}}}
Remember, these are the same people that got giddy when the found out Tony Snow had cancer.
Geez.
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By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
Sick, sick, sick®
By Back at Ya.
May 15, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Rmember these are the same people who though John Edwards’ wifes’ breast cancer was a campaign ploy….
By MpeachW
May 15, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Thanks ABS - just thought I’d lighten the mood a bit.
By Brian Curtis
May 15, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
But I thought it was a GOOD thing when evildoers and enemies of America perished. Has that policy been revised?
By Washingtonstate
May 15, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
This brings back memories of last Memorial Day when one of the troglodytes was trying to say that the sacrifices of the “liberals” didn’t count for anything because they were traitors. When I asked that person to have the common decency to refrain from such hateful rhetoric on a day of national remembrance, the whole bunch of them took umbrage. Much the same is happening with Falwell’s death, except now the troglodytes would have us show the decency that was denied the rest of us on that previous occasion. Yes, the guy was a SOB, but he is a dead SOB. Of the dead, speak no evil, (at least for a day or two.) Hate to say it, but I side with the troglodytes on this one.
By Truthman
May 15, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
It’s for people such as Falwell that I wish THERE WAS A GOD!
A charlatan such as he would be at the head of the line…FOR HELL!!!
GOOD RIDDANCE, HYPOCRITE PHILISTINE!!
By Washingtonstate
May 15, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
By the way, was there any discussion on the NRA’s insistence that “terrorist suspects” be allowed to purchase assault weapons? If there was, could someone please link me to it. The convoluted logic of the far right resulted in a mind-boggling collision with the government that leaves one speechless. After supporting the denial of virtually every civil right of “terrorist suspects,” the NRA is balking at taking away their right to buy guns (including assault weapons.) That’s right. A “terrorist suspect” can be detained indefinitely without legal representation, his home can be searched without warrant, his every communication subjected to warrantless eavesdropping, he can be placed on a no-fly list, but by God, he can buy the best assault rifle he can afford. How crazy is this? It’ll be interesting to see how Bush gets out of this conflict with his remaining base.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
{{{By Back at Ya. May 15, 2007 3:48 PM Rmember these are the same people who though John Edwards’ wifes’ breast cancer was a campaign ploy}}}
Care to share with us which Con that might have been?
Coward.
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{{{By the stopper May 15, 2007 1:39 PM I do mind him lying, and I do mind his failure to acknowledge the lie.}}}
Stick in your rear end:
During the VietNam conflict, Jane Fonda visited a P.O.W. camp where Americans were held. Supposededly, she was given hand written notes by the prisoners, to take home & have delivered to their loved ones. Instead, as the story goes, she turned in those notes to the N. Viet Nam prison guards.
Now the choice is, do you believe Yahoo or an American soldier?
Duh.
Coward.
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By Just sayin'
May 15, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
Falwell=Saddam?
Brian, you are truly hopeless.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Last Memorial Day, traditional. Where is WashingtonState on this thread?
But it is the day General Seeker was outed as finch. Ah the memories…
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
Enough about Falwell for today.
Let’s get back to the original matter at hand…
What is the over/under on the number of times that Andy has wanked himself to Barberella?
By Midori
May 15, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
ROFL, Steve-o
priorities.
yes.
:)
By Peter
May 15, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
‘Dull - 4:00 pm - “Now the choice is, do you believe Yahoo or an American soldier?”
I believe the soldier who said it didn’t happen.
Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan - “It’s a figment of somebody’s imagination.”
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-blow May 15, 2007 4:04 PM What is the over/under on the number of times that Andy has wanked himself to Barberella?}}}
stevie: So how many times did you wank to her sitting on the North Vietnamese anti aircraft gun?
Or were you thinking of those little commie soldiers while you pulled on it?
Huh, huh?
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By Just sayin'
May 15, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Truthman likes traitor Jane more than his wife but wants a Rev. he doesn’t like dead?
I’ll take the over of 250 for Truthman’s wanking Barnerella.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
If anyone cares here’s the Memorial Day thread WashingtonState is referring to. As usual he’s full of sh!t.
By getalife
May 15, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
“AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals” “It appears that America’s anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men’s movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakening.” “If you’re not a born-again Christian, you’re a failure as a human being.” After the September 11 attacks Falwell said, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this happen.” “Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions” “[Homosexuals are] brute beasts…part of a vile and satanic system [that] will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.”
I am surprised he did not have a heart transplant with all his money.
By Ray
May 15, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Silly libs - as far as the heaven/hell situation - who knows and who really cares? Falwell did a superb job of getting a ton of people to vote the man into office who has put a bundle of cash in my pocket. If you libs are so smart - why ain’t you rich?
By Back at Ya.
May 15, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
on the March 22 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh suggested that the Edwards presidential campaign intentionally “leak[ed]” false information — that Edwards would “suspend” his campaign because his wife’s cancer had recurred — to Politico reporter Ben Smith in order “to jump-start the campaign.”
By Daniel
May 15, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
My wealth is none of your business. By the way, honest men don’t brag about their wealth. Sorry.
By ABS
May 15, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Ray, Yuck…You are very proud of your money, aren’t you? That’s nice. What makes you think that us “libs” aren’t rich?
Oh, because your ignorant and narrow-minded.
The “Arrogant, Rich, White guy, A*****” blog is called Thinking Right…you’ll be much happier there.
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Just doing my part in trying to find the root of LuckoDork’s obsession with Fonda! I would say that he needs a helping hand, but I’m sure he has that more than enough covered…especially when he pops in his Barbarella DVD.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
{{{By Back at Ya May 15, 2007 4:19 PM on the March 22 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh suggested that the Edwards presidential campaign intentionally “leak[ed]” false information — that Edwards would “suspend” his campaign because his wife’s cancer had recurred — to Politico reporter Ben Smith in order “to jump-start the campaign.”}}}
I remember the exact quote, you dildo, it was “he leaked the information to Politico, I DON’T KNOW WHY HE WOULD DO THAT, maybe to jump start his campaign.”
Unquote.
Coward.
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By Back at Ya.
May 15, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Vote on Feingold-Reid Iraq bill expected tomorrow morning. To call your Senator, the toll-free Capitol switchboard number is (800) 828-0498.
GET ON THE PHONE BOYS AND GIRLS
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
{{{stevie: So how many times did you wank to her sitting on the North Vietnamese anti aircraft gun?
Or were you thinking of those little commie soldiers while you pulled on it?
Huh, huh?}}}
LuckoDork,
There you go again…painting images of Jane sitting on a “big gun.” Then you add more details about your fantasy by including a bunch of strapping NVA soldiers surrounding Jane while she’s mounting this “big gun”.
Methinks that LuckoDork needs to cut down on his Asian porn fettish and focus on more important political issues while he’s on this blog.
By Midori
May 15, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
Steve-o,
he prolly whacks off to her exercise videos as well.
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
“Now the choice is, do you believe Yahoo or an American soldier?”
I believe you should get a cite that manages to spell “supposedly” correctly.
Believe Yahoo? You do realize you’ve linked to a site where anyone can post anything, yes?
You’re a liar, Stupidest Troll on the Internets. Stop backing away, stop dodging, and stop weaving.
Admit that you lied. Just do it.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
{{{{{By Daniel May 15, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this My wealth is none of your business. By the way, honest men don’t brag about their wealth. Sorry.}}}}}
Good post Danny, you should address it to N-GA as well as Ray, although I guess technically you didn’t address it at all.
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Midori,
ROTFLMAO!!
Maybe the next bet should be the odds that LuckoDork makes his “trademarked” ZZZZZZZZZZ sound when he finishes his self-fulfilling task after watching Fonda’s video.
By IN THE NEWS
May 15, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Okay, guess who wants to see retired General John Batiste — who was fired by CBS as a news consultant for bashing Bush and the war in that VoteVets ad — put back on air by the network?
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
{{{By Peter May 15, 2007 4:12 PM I believe the soldier who said it didn’t happen.}}}
Well, let’s just see what little peterhead’s link says:
{{{There’s no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated “press conference” with American POWs in 1972. There’s no denying that she defamed POWs by whitewashing the Viet Cong’s treatment of them and later calling them liars when they spoke out. But how true are the further allegations in these email rumors? Let’s examine their veracity point by point, beginning with the most serious: # Claim: Fonda betrayed POWs by turning over slips of paper they gave her to their captors. POWs were beaten and {{{{{{{{{{died}}}}}}}}}}} as a result.}}}
Geez, you found one guy who freely admits he NEVER SAW Fonda, yes, it would have been hard to pass her a note, I’ll admit.
Duh.
Next?
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By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Look at this doozy from the day before finch aka bon scott was outed as Seeker.
{{{{{{By finch May 30, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this @@, I detect an inconsistency. You defend the neocon whose name du jour today is “News You Can Use” for his lengthy scattershot posts and links, then critize lefty seeker for doing the same thing. At least seeker only uses one name. I think. I think they should both get their own blogs and spare us the tedium. Or at least they could make their posts shorter and more focused.}}}}}
By LUCKO CHO
May 15, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
REMAINS A LIAR
Claim: Fonda betrayed POWs by turning over slips of paper they gave her to their captors. POWs were beaten and died as a result. Status: FALSE.
PLEASE PLEASE IGNORE THAT TROLL
By the stopper
May 15, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
The Stupidest Troll on the Internets gave us:
Next?
Next is where you say, “I lied.”
By Daniel
May 15, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
RW: Tell me if I’m wrong. Everyone I have ever met who has tried to impress me with their wealth have turned out to be duds. On the other hand, most of the people with real cash have been very subtle about it. I.e. the rich know who they are.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
Antbody who sticks up for Hanoi Jane is repulsive, mental and a little prick:
{{{By LUCKO CHO May 15, 2007 4:50 PM Claim: Fonda betrayed POWs by turning over slips of paper they gave her to their captors. POWs were beaten and died as a result. Status: FALSE.}}}
Need I say more?
Go play with yourself, dullard.
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By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
{{{By Daniel May 15, 2007 5:16 PM RW: Tell me if I’m wrong. Everyone I have ever met who has tried to impress me with their wealth have turned out to be duds.}}}
Some one should google “N-GA” “millions” and “luckovich” and see what comes up.
We’ll all have a good laugh then.
Wanna bet?
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By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
Whoaaa:
Congress Approval Down to 29%; Bush Approval Steady at 33%
Hehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.
Geez.
You’re gonna hate 08®.
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By steve-o
May 15, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
OK OK OK OK!!!!!!
Enough about freaking Jane Fonda!
LuckoDork,
Who really give a fying fluck??!!!
How about the GOP debate tonight in South Cacalaca? Anyone have any thoughts on who’s going to shine (if it’s possible for a Repug to shine) and who’s going to lay an egg? Better yet…what about the allegations by former Justice Department officials that Ashcroft was coerced into conducting domestic spying?
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
LuckoDork,
When it comes to Congressional approval ratings, they’re usually dismal because everyone thinks their own sh-it doesn’t stink—meaning that people are likely to support their own Congressman while believing that most other Congressmen are scum.
Now you have to ask yourself about your child-king’s dismal ratings. Are you really that gleeful about a 33% approval rating? I mean, 33% is great if it’s your batting average, but approval rating? Clinton polled around 60% upon his leaving office—and that was after his impeachment.
You support a guy who can’t even poll better than an impeached president. LMAO!!
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Daniel @ 5:16,
Did you miss the part where I already agreed with you? That’s why I said you should mention it to blog “millionaire” N-GA.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-blow May 15, 2007 5:41 PM When it comes to Congressional approval ratings, they’re usually dismal}}}
Blah, blah, blah.
Didn’t like the results, eh?
It’s a job approval rating poll, stevie, and guess who’s in charge of Congress?
It took four months for you Bozo’s to eclipse Bush’s stay in the cellar, my Lord, that’s funny.
He’s got an unpopular war, Suckie Face Waxman hasn’t be deballed, his attorney general is a spineless Coward specimen, the American people still have more respect for him then they do for the Surrender Sisters Reid and Pelosi.
I like this.
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By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
More outpourings of sympathy from Amanda Marcotte, John Edwards’ now you see me now you don’t blogger. Isn’t she the one that calls Christians Godbags?
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
LuckoDork,
Hooo-boy! You really gotta get out more. Bush sucks. Face it. Bush sucks. People don’t like him. It’s not liberals’ fault, it’s not the media’s fault, and it’s not Rosie O’Donnell’s fault. He sucks because he made bad decisions. Now you and other neoCONs are scurring to find dirt elsewhere to deflect attention from the POS CiC that you so vehemently support.
Think about it…the leader of the free world is not liked by 67% of his own country. That’s pretty bad dude.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
The 10,000 dead moratorium is over:
{{{[F]rankly, the people who’ve ponied up $4,600 for Obama in this election cycle might as well have piled the money on the kitchen table and set fire to it. Or donated it to the Audubon Society, which has a lot better chance of being in business a year from now than Obama’s presidential campaign. Beam does not get into many specifics, but he speaks to a growing sense that Obama does not have the right stuff. Most of this sense seems to stem from Obama’s recent attacks of foot-in-mouth — most recently, his 10,000-dead-in-Kansas gaffe.}}}
You know I was going to be respectful of the “I’m tired” excuse but I remember a certain group of people that spare no mercy over Bush and his frequent propensity to mangle a word or two.
This is worse than that.
Where does he even arrive at 10,000 and doesn’t correct himself until hours later?
Is he a Dullard?
(I’m Hillary Clinton and eyes approeves of dis messeege, I’se come tooo fire to let dis goes.)
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By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
steve-zero,
Could you provide a link to this likability poll you cite? Somehow I doubt any serious polling organization went around asking people if they liked George Bush.
Thank you in advance.
By Daniel
May 15, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this
RW: I much prefer to find reasons for agreement. No, I didn’t miss it.
By Buy Danish
May 15, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
Just how crazy are the Dems? In addition to a vile and deranged response to Jerry Falwell’s death, we have their wacko 9/11 conspiracy theories.
MOST FAIR-MINDED readers will no doubt take me at my word when I say that a majority of Democrats in this country are out of their gourds.//But, on the off chance that a few cynics won’t take my word for it, I offer you data. Rasmussen Reports, the public opinion outfit, recently asked voters whether President Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks beforehand. The findings? Well, here’s how the research firm put it: “Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know and 26% are not sure./We don’t know what kind of motive respondents had in mind for Bush, but the most common version has Bush craftily enabling a terror attack as a way to whip up support for his foreign policy without too many questions…The problem with rebutting this sort of allegation is that there are too many reasons why it’s so stupid. It’s like trying to explain to a 4-year-old why Superman isn’t real. You can spend all day talking about how kryptonite just wouldn’t work that way. Or you can just say, “It’s make-believe.”
Hat tip: John Gibson
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
OK Daniel. I have no idea what you mean by the 6:08, but cheers!
Quick test for the blog!!
Who said “From each according to their ability, to each according to their need?”
Was it A-Karl Marx B-Barack Obama or C-Both??
By One Voice
May 15, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
As an agnostic I would never wish death on anyone because I know that this is the only life any of us will ever have. Today Jerry Falwell is in the same place all of us will be- he’s just dead. No heaven, no hell, although if the latter existed he would deserve it.
However, the world is better off without him. He spent his life deluding a great number of people and spreading hatred. The stooges on this blog (andy, rw, Granny, @@, Dusty, etc.) spew the same nonsense daily, but they have no real influence, no power whatsoever. They just spread their tripe and serve as fodder for the progressives who come here for entertainment. If anything, they turn more moderates to the left with their ignorance and hate.
Falwell, on the other hand, was a charlatan who used silly mythology to prey on the uneducated and influence and indoctrinate tens of thousands of people, many young adults, to hate homosexuals and even free thought. He would have preferred our nation to be a theocracy, the Christian equivalent of the form of government advocated by Islamist extremists. At his core he was in opposition to the fundamental philosophy this nation was founded under, yet he willingly attacked millions of Americans as anti-American and responsible for terrorist acts. And he successfully spread this ideology. By laying claim to the terms “morality” and “values,” he attacked the left as devoid of both, while all evidence suggests that it was actually he who lacked those qualities. Just because you say it’s so doesn’t make it so. He lived a life of lies and deceit.
The world is a better place this afternoon.
By steve-o
May 15, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
RW,
What?
I’m talking about his approval rating of 33% as cited by our own Andy and Gallup. You know 100-33=67. You know math, don’t you?
Your welcome.
By Daniel
May 15, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
Karl Marz. You have stated the gospel of communism.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
steve-zero,
You said 67% of his countrymen DON”T LIKE him. See 5:57 and please start backing your statements instead of moving the target every time you get questioned. We all know how unctuous you are, but there may still be some readers you have fooled. Tactics like yours will lose them too.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
You get partial credit, but if you read the link you will find the answer was C-Both, just in slightly different wordings.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
What do you know, even when steve-zero moves the goal posts he still lies
By Buy Danish
May 15, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this
SMACKDOWN FRED!
Scroll down and click on the image to watch Fred’s response to the lardass lunatic.
One Punk,
Why don’t you write a manifesto, err, essay on how ‘Falwell indoctrinated tens of thousands of people, many young adults to hate free thought.’
See you next year.
By @@
May 15, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
Oh my goodness! They really are going crazy at the liberal blogsites. The hatred for Jerry Falwell is astounding.
I’d bring some over, but there’s just too much profanity.
{{By Midori May 15, 2007 3:28 PM}}
{{I’ll bet,}}
{{heck, I have a whole case of bubbly earmarked for when you kick the bucket!!}}
Well there’s Midori’s excuse. She was drunk the night her and her friends had so much fun upon hearing about the death of a poster’s father.
Bubblebrains!!!!!!
Maybe steve-o can get everybody to apologize. Naaaahhhhh, forget it. Don’t want it; don’t need it; and it wouldn’t mean crap coming from a liberal.
By LuckoDull
May 15, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
If I were a Monkey Man like this:
{{{By One Voice May 15, 2007 6:18 PM The world is a better place this afternoon.}}}
and confident in my beliefs about the origin of life, I seriously doubt that I would be celebrating the deaths of people who disagreed with me, but I guess the only way Monkey Man will be sure of himself is when we all die and go away.
And he can have his black emptiness all to himself.
Geez.
What a loser.
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By Daniel
May 15, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
RW: I know Marx said it, and therefore had to have said it first. I don’t know much about Obama and didn’t want to guess. In any case, it is a utopian thought. It is also unworkable.
The greatest engine of prosperity known to the history of mankind? The free enterprise system. It has provided the greatest good to the greatest number, without parallel.By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this
Another case of those gay bashing Democrats, allegedly. Governor Crazy Howie M.D. is going to need a good lawyer.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
Agreed again! Now if we would just let the free enterprise system work we might get somewhere.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
Malik Zulu steve-0 errr Shabazz too hateful for Canada
By Daniel
May 15, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this
I travelled freely throughout the communist countries. As an American it was relaxing and, at times, quaint. The dollar was very strong, then. All were intellectually stifling. The “new” construction was dreary. A lot of natives were drunk. The family sentiment was “Ok we did this. We don’t want to go back”.
By RW-(the original)
May 15, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this
Is the AJC in a different time zone now? That little gray instruction box just doesn’t seem to square with my clock and the fact that the blog is still opening with a comment box.
By Peter
May 16, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
‘Dull - your 5/15 4:43 PM - (having accepted my offering) you should have no problem finding one veteran who confirms your original position.
I’ll be waiting … . .
By Martin
May 16, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
Just what CBS deserves. They hired her at the network of Cronkite, Sevaried, Murrow et al. They were newsmen, she is not. She is a “celebrity” (very overpaid at that).
By Peter
May 17, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
… . waiting … .
By Peter
May 22, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
… just one …