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By Mike Luckovich | Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 06:20 AM

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By LuckoDull

May 15, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

{{{I’ll be a single issue voter in 2008. If we don’t win the war on terror, nothing else will matter very much.}}}

Um, ditto.

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{{{All sorts of people can have all sorts of beliefs about what tax rates are best from various points of view. But how can people work themselves into a lather over the fact that some taxpayers are able to keep more of the money they earned, instead of turning it over to politicians to dispense in ways calculated to get themselves re-elected?}}}

Um, ditto.

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{{{No matter how bad or how good Iraq gets from day to day, the war is always reported as a worst case scenario by a mainstream media that hates George Bush more than it loves America. Simply put, the war coverage is being slanted with the conscious intent of demoralizing America’s will to fight, so that a defeat can be hung round the neck of Bush and the GOP. This is a supremely immoral act, since Bush does not have an Army in Iraq — America does.}}}

Um, ditto.

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{{{KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — More than 60 suspected insurgents, including three regional commanders, were killed by airstrikes on two Taliban compounds Tuesday in volatile Kandahar province, the provincial police chief said.}}}

Good riddance.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

Unearthed! The Justice Department Loyalty Oath written by Monica Goodling:

“I, [state your name], do solemnly swear On, like, the biggest Bible ever, Preferably one from Regent University, That I will faithfully execute my duties As they’re passed down from Karl and Alberto and Monica [Wink at me. Hi!] And occasionally a late-night phone call from a U.S. Senator or Representative from my state. And will, to the best of my ability, Prosecute any and all Democrats on voter fraud charges, I mean really grind my boot into their face until they’re unrecognizable, And they need, like, a hundred and eighty stitches in their Democrat heads, No matter how bogus the charges are, And they will, trust me, be bogus as hell, I will go after them, their families, their pets, Their careers and their friends. I will dig up the bodies of their relatives and mock them, And I will go through their trash twice a day. And I will never prosecute people in my own party, No matter how corrupt they are, Because that would be like punching my mom in the mouth. One nation, under, like, the most awesomest God, A Christian God, of course, evangelical and heterosexual, And the most awesomest President, George W. Bush. And one more thing…I will NEVER breath a word of this to anyone. And if I’m ever subpoenaed, I’ll print all my emails and then burn them, So they’ll be destroyed for good. Go, JUSTICE! Go, JESUS! Go, BUSH! Go, REPUBLICANS! Amen.

Congratulations. You’re in.

By AntiRadical

May 15, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Is ML serious? With all that is going on the world, who cares about how well Katie Couric mimes the news?

The new Commonwealth Fund Report was released today and it says the same thing it has said for quite a long while. “The United States is not getting value for the money that is spent on health care.”

Our nation desperately needs to jettison the hodge-podge, hap-hazard, cobbled-together system of healthcare that has evolved in response to managed-care reforms instituted since the ‘80s and replace it with an efficient system of Universal Health Care that will better serve the public at large.

Cont: Article excerpts posted next in order to satisfy blog character/post rules

By AntiRadical

May 15, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

U.S. Healthcare Expensive, Inefficient: Report

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans get the poorest health care and yet pay the most compared to five other rich countries, according to a report released on Tuesday. Germany, Britain, Australia and Canada all provide better care for less money.

“The U.S. health care system ranks last compared with five other nations on measures of quality, access, efficiency, equity, and outcomes,” the non-profit group which studies health care issues said in a statement. The group has consistently found that the United States, the only one of the six nations that does not provide universal health care, scores more poorly than the others on many measures of health care.

“It is pretty indisputable that we spend twice what other countries spend on average,” she said. Per capita health spending in the United States in 2004 was $6,102, twice that of Germany, which spent $3,005. Canada spent $3,165, New Zealand $2,083 and Australia $2,876, while Britain spent $2,546 per person.

“We focus primarily on measures that are sensitive to medical care making a difference — infant mortality and healthy lives at age 60,” Davis said. “Those are pretty key measures, like if your children will survive infancy and whether you are going to die before age 75.”

They also looked at convenience and again found the United States lacking — with a few exceptions. “We include measures such as waiting more than four months for elective, non-emergency surgery. The United States doesn’t do as well as Germany but it does a lot better than the other countries on waiting time for surgery,” Davis said.

“We looked at the time it takes to get in to see your own doctor … (or) once you go to the emergency room do you sit there for more than two hours, and truthfully, we don’t do well on those measures,” Davis said.

The United States had the fewest patients — 84 percent — reporting that they have a regular doctor. And U.S. doctors are the least wired, with the lowest percentage using electronic medical records or receiving electronic updates on recommended treatments.

By MpeachW

May 15, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

In a letter to the editor someone suggested that our troops should be able to take two months off along with the Iraqi Parliament. EXCELLENT IDEA!

By Florida

May 15, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

That is the funniest, most accurate, and downright insightful caricature of that news demon Katie Courik I’ve ever seen.

Homerun, Luckovich

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

“Jane Fonda ratted out an American P.O.W. to his North Vietnamese captors, for the “infraction” of trying to communicate with her.”

No, she did not. This is a lie.

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

Why do you lie?

By DebbieDoRight

May 15, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

In the News….too funny!!!! It was the most awsomest!!!

By Peter

May 15, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Jane Fonda did what?

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

from Peter’s link:

“It’s a figment of somebody’s imagination,” says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, whom I reached by phone at his home in Arizona. Carrigan, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967, says he has no idea why this story was attributed to him. “I never met Jane Fonda,” he told me. It goes without saying he never handed her a secret message.

Again I ask our Stupidest Troll on the Internets: Why do you lie?

By The Watcher

May 15, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

They lie because it’s all they have got left.

By Buy Danish

May 15, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Anti-Radical,

Gosh, I wonder why our emergency rooms are overcrowded. Could it have something to do with the millions of illegal immigrants who overwhelm our services?

Later…

By @@

May 15, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Who the heck cares about Katie Couric ml?

If I had to guess what her problem is; I’d say that the principle component contributing to her demise is the “Peter”, or lack thereof. Kinda like the main”stream” media.

It’s their “Flo”…

they just don’t cut it, but should.

By AntiRadical

May 15, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

BD- The same problems with provision of services to immigrants, also,exists in those UHC societies that you decry with such fervor. In fact, Britain has it mush worse than we do in that respect (all those dependent colonials).

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan- “The trouble with (today’s conservative) is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”

By LuckoDull

May 15, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Dude, there are pictures of Jane Fonda sitting on a North Vietnamese aircraft gun.

“Lie” about that.

Suckas-s mofo.

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By Truthsayer

May 15, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Luckovich got one right, but as they say even as stopped clock… However, you libs still don’t get why not only CBS has ratings in the toilet, so do the Arab Broadcasting Co. and the Nazi Broadcasting Co. The big three together only have 30 million viewers a night. This is not just cable. This is also because the coverage is so slanted and left-wing p.c. opinion driven as to make it completely irrelevant. Just look at what happened in France this past week and think for a little while. Segolene Royal was backed by the great majority of the European press, but because socialism is irrelevant, their slant meant less and less. People, at least those with the ablitity to think for themselves, are seeking out other sources of news because they know lies when they hear or read them. I wonder if the AJC’s brilliant publishers and editors have asked themselves why their cirulcation is in the dust bin?

By Florida

May 15, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

3 missing soldiers. Al queda? The last time we searched for a missing soldier in Sadr City, we were told to get the F out of there and stop looking. Bush complied. I dont think anyone’s mentioned that poor soldier to Bush/Rush since. I wonder what happened to him. Hannity wont mention him, cause Hannity wont allow ratings to drop by confronting the truth, or dealing with messy realities that dont conform to spin.

The problem with that 3 missing soldier report is that Bush/Rush has no data about the Al Queda constituency. How large are the cells? Average Profile? How are they supplied? How many men? Clones? Wannabe’s? Copy Cats? It’s easy to say you’re al queda? What is al queda?

Bush/Rush has no info. In fact, the depth and breadth of Bush’s Iraq Adventure is still alarming the most cautious and reluctant of those who voted for this war. We still dont really know what kind of animal Iraq is becoming. It’s still forming, evolving, and anything can happen.

The visit by the 11 concerned conservatives to the white house last week is misleading. Even though it provides a ray of hope that a veto overriding majority is forming in congress, it suggests a different scenario.

The reality of Iraq is slowly following the news reports back to the US. There is a truth about what Bush has unleashed that will astonish and frighten. The fact that most Republicans are four years behind the curve of Liberal Wisdom about this war means that soon the truth will be uttered by respected members of the Republican Party and those words coming out of those mouths will shake up this country like never before.

What have we done? We’re about to understand. The pathetic conservative blogs about Iraq, so simplistic and ignorant about the reality on the ground and what’s evolving and what’s already irreversible, will destroy the Party. Let them spew. Let Rush/Hannity make fools out of themselves. Watch as they start to try to spin their way out of it. Watch as they say, “Uh, I was just trying to show the country, during that last 1000 broadcasts, how liberals think the war is going, see, they want to stay the course and destroy the “al queders” in Iraq, and ignore the civil war, but we conservatives know better, we were against the war, but we had to show everyone that it’s the liberals who are for the war and stuff. Honest, I was just tryi

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

We all saw those photos. Many people criticized Fonda for what she acknowledged to have done. I am one of those people. Her visit to North Vietnam and willingness to be a propaganda stooge is not in dispute.

What is being disputed is why you continue to lie.

Answer the question, Stupidest Troll on the Internets. You know that the story about betraying a POW is a lie. You knew that before you posted it; the story has been debunked for years.

Why do you tell lies?

By Florida

May 15, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

They should let Paris deliver the CBS news from her prison.

She would get a 100 share rating. Not one person would miss one second of those broadcasts, and it would change tv forever.

Paris!

Dont forget that Paris wears virtually nothing under those skimpy federal prison outfits. Nothing at all. Are you starting to see the possibilities, people?

It’s going to be a hot summer.

Hot.

Paris!

By Peter

May 15, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

‘Dull - 09:04 - “Dude, there are pictures of Jane Fonda sitting on a North Vietnamese aircraft gun.” is justification for your lie or are you changing the subject because you got caught?

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Since the Stupidest Troll on the Internets refuses to own up to why he lies, let’s speculate, shall we?

1) Habit. Telling the Big Lie over and over again is so ingrained in the RW Troll mindset they simply can’t help themselves. They seem especially susceptible to lies about the military; remember their ridiculous obsession with John Kerry’s botched punchline, and how they pretended he was speaking about “the troops,” and not GWB?

2) Desperation. With <30% approval these days, the neocons have nothing new, so they are forced to recycle old nonsense.

3) Mental disorder. Only The Stupidest Troll on the Internets’ shrink knows for sure.

Any other suggestions? Join in, won’t you?

By Florida

May 15, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

The Iraqis are telling us with every word and act that they would rather start over in the stone age than spend another minute under US occupation.

They dont want any part of any US ideas.

If we are stupid enough to ever leave Iraq, then they will hang every member of the elected parliament shortly afterwards. That’s a fact.

We are trapped in Iraq forever. that’s the first truth that Rush/Hannity must broadcast. We are not electing to stay, but rather we are being forced to stay.

Hannity/Rush has never ever once admitted that the Iraqi Parliament is mostly Shia. Never. They probably dont know about it, or they dont know what it means. No, they would rather look at the Fort Dix Six, and rant all day long about how liberals want to free them because they were discovered by unconstitutional methods, or some spin like that.

The Fort Dix Six would have been cut down at the gates of Fort Dix. They had no real plan, instead, were drawn along by FBI infiltrators who probably came up with all the ideas, as stupid as they were. Sounds like a Bush plan to me. There are very many similarities in the Iraq Invasion plan and the Fort Dix attack plan. Probably the same genius wrote both.

The CIA says that Plan B was to burn a pile of Dixie Chicks records.

Also, Rush uses the Fort Dix Six to prove that al queda is here and the war on terror is real and Iraq is the front lines. Try to follow the logic. You’re head will implode. The man’s mind has obviously been fried by RX.

And I think it’s a damn shame.

By Cindy

May 15, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

Look at the neo con leaders. They all lie. So these poor folks are just following the leader because they don’t know better. They figure if they can lie to make the left look bad it is worth a try (look at how success the swiftboat people were with their lies). They have NO integrity. These neocons are a pathetic bunch and the Republicans can have them.

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Law School Classmates Criticize Gonzales

By getalife

May 15, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Today, Wolfie is fired.

Kudos to McNulty for showing some decency and resigning.

Many should follow his lead.

Katie is a wingnut and should be fired.

Then you have this b-itch

Pathetic.

By Goldie

May 15, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Maybe some of these trolls can tell us who the real “conservatives” are that remain in the Repug Party today… I have co-workers who state that they no longer call themselves “Republican” because that party has gone too far in its lunatic ideology.

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

“Then you have this b-itch”

That is really, really unfair to all the loyal, kind, loving female canines out there, to compare them to “Dr.” Laura.

By Hey, Moron

May 15, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Luck,

The tactic of a terrorist is to instill fear. To cause those who are afraid to do that which they would not otherwise do. To cause certain members of the terrorized society to turn on their fellow citizens.

I understand that you are afraid. You demonstrate it everyday. You are a scared little child in a dangerous world who believes that there are enemies among you, including a substantial portion of your countryman(libs). Therefore the Terrorists have won the battle of Luck. They can stick their flag in your chest and declare “Mission Accomplished.”

However, many of the rest of us are not afraid. We were not afraid of the British Empire, Japan or Nazi Germany and we will not let a rag tag bunch of nut cases destroy the country from within or without.

You, personally, have lost the war on terror. Can you summon the decency to shut up and let the rest of us Americans, liberal, independent or conservative, win it? Now go crawl into your whole while the rest of us in a bipartisan way, make Bush irrelevant and end this stupid, stupid war.

Loser. Coward. Idiot.

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

The Song Parody From Hell Posted by SalmonChantedEvening in General Discussion Fri Apr 13th 2007, 06:47 PM Yep, based on a dare yet again.

Lies By The Flock (By These People Enfold Me) To the tune of Life Is A Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me) By Reunion (Norman Dolph-Paul DiFranco-Joey Levine)

Dusty Foggo playing poker, Cunningham got dealt the joker Conrad Black a thief not petty, I almost miss Don Segretti Condoleeza buying Prada, pyramids and boarding water Rick Santorum, Bunning, Issa, Scooter Libby turning Aspens Raisin Brain and Sensenbrenner, Coleman, Mehlman, flacid Boehner Sam Alito, Judge Ray Moore and Kyle Sampson call the jury Neil Cavuto, F*******, Arlen Specter, Brownie’s FEMA Jeffries Terry, Malkin, Bremmer, Mean Jean Schmidt and Chuck Krauthammer

Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by dittoheads and toadies

Jello Billo mics he’s cuttin’, Drudge is writing something rotten Ari Fleischer, Simple Scotty, Coulter, Imus, mouths of potty Faux and Friends is group psychosis, Bill Frist gives good diagnosis OxyRush and David Limbaugh, Jimmy Dobson, Janet’s Parshall Donny Rummy, unknown knowns and hey who knew and golly jeepers Dr. Laura getting meaner, Tom Delay and Savage Weiner Stop me please my brain is meltin, Romney, Giuliani, Weldon Foley’s emails really creepy, Gannon gets Ted Haggard weepy

Roberts, Olson, Orrin, Schaffly, Falwell, Uncle Chuckles, Gaffney Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by dittoheads and toadies

Tucker dancin’, Cheyney huntin’, Bolton screamin’, Hunter Duncan Infernos that would frighten Dante, Tenet, Bennett, Negroponte Stevens and his tubes and bridges, Glenn Beck is a rash that itches IRS and Halliburton, CIA it looks like curtains Hannity’s his own aroma, Senators from Oklahoma Tweety Chris and Goldberg Jonah, Timmy, Tammy, Charen Mona Lieberman, McCain a-huggin’, Kool-Aid by the vat they’re chuggin’ Newtie, Rita, Greta, Lugar, Karl Rove, the Chimp’s Rasputin

On the networks and on cable, rest assured we’ll push the fable Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

DARN TOO LONG HERE”S THE REST>>>>

On the networks and on cable, rest assured we’ll push the fable Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Not a drop of the truth in, anything they told me Lies by the Flock, from these people enfold me Getting fire from all sides by dittoheads and toadies

Mission (Dismembered!) they’ve got it all wrong

Spin it, Sell it, Roger Ailes me, Maggie, Armstrong singin’ pay me MSABCBS me, real reporting might impress me

(Whatta buncha liars!)

By AntiRadical

May 15, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Another favorite RR quote:

“However, our task is far from over. Our friends in the other party will never forgive us for our success, and are doing everything in their power to rewrite history. Listening to the liberals, you’d think that the 1980’s were the worst period since the Great Depression, filled with suffering and despair. I don’t know about you, but I’m getting awfully tired of the whining voices from the White House these days. They’re claiming there was a decade of greed and neglect, but you and I know better than that. We were there.”- Ronald Reagan, Speech at 1994 Gala for 83rd Birthday (1994-02-03)

Being a RR fan, I am often reminded of the irony of the former President’s words. In retrospect, I have now lived through the ’90s, as well, and seen the same words to be applicable to the Reps as regards their admonishment of Clinton’s prosperous tenure during the ’90s. I expect these words will always hold true from one administration change to the next, such is the nature of American hubris.

From my own experience, the ’80s were very good to me; so were the ’90s and I’m still doing as well, today. Contrary to pronouncements from the radical right/left, whether led by cons or libs, America has remained the greatest place to live in the world. I expect the same will hold true in the future, as well, regardless of pronouncements from doomsday prophets from either side of the aisle.

By SarahConnah

May 15, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Katie’s ratings have gone down the poop chute. And with the proper camera working, we could watch it happen live!

Pardon the pun.

Curtsie!

By @@

May 15, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

No doom and gloom from where I sit AntiR. Here’s my favorite among Reagan’s many great speeches:

“I won a nickname, ‘The Great Communicator.’ But I never thought it was my style or the words I used that made a difference: it was the content. I wasn’t a great communicator, but I communicated great things, and they didn’t spring full bloom from my brow, they came from the heart of a great nation — from our experience, our wisdom and our belief in the principles that have guided us for two centuries.”

By reebok

May 15, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

I’ve watched Katie read the news a few times…I don’t think she’s any better or worse than any of the other talking heads…I have a hard time understanding her massive unpopularity. This is a pretty funny cartoon, albeit about an unimportant subject.

BTW, the “Jane Fonda ratted out a POW” story isn’t true. If you hate Jane Fonda, that’s fine. It’s your right. I don’t like her myself. But why isn’t the truth good enough? Why do you have to pollute the discussion with lies?

By Curious Observer

May 15, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

I can give you the reason I stopped watching CBS News after the Couric hiring: if I want a talk show host, instead of a journalist, to deliver the news, I can tune into The View. CBS showed massive and cynical disrespect for intelligent viewers by making such a hire. I don’t care what the political leanings or the gender of a news anchor are, but I at least expect a news anchor to have a solid background in journalism.

By LuckoDull

May 15, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

First link I checked, nothing yet but I wanted to share this:

{{{In 1972 Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden and others traveled to North Vietnam to give their support to the North Vietnamese’s Government. When she returned to the United States, she advised the news media that all of the American Prisoners of War were being well treated and were not being tortured. As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war. Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda’s earlier statements of 1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his guards for refusing to meet with groups such as Jane Fonda’s. Jane Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the returning POWs as being “hypocrites and liars.”}}}

That being from an American soldier, who’s word I have no doubts about at all.

You sniveling Cowards can speak for “Hanoi” Jane Fonda.

POS.

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By POD!

May 15, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

POD!

zip….flop…..PPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

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By bon scott

May 15, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Katie Couric is actually a good, experienced journalist who, unfortunately, is getting smeared by people who only remember her “interviews” with Burt Reynolds and her “fun with cute/gross” animals on the Today show.

If you want to talk shallow, talk ex Today host Deborah Norville.

Unfortunately, CBS is trying to instantly transform her into the next John Chanchellor, minus the gonads. A terrible mistake. I don’t watch her. Charles Gibson and Brian Williams (in that order) are so much better. But she can’t be that unhappy. At $15 million a year, I wouldn’t be in too big of a funk.

Hey, cAndy-man, I see here you’ve drifted back into your habit of not linking, or even attributing your quotes. Lazy, or just drunk again? BTW, used to work as a counselor at a clinic, which is why I know how junkies pulverize OxyContin (Rush’s favorite pick-me-up), and why I know the telltale signs of acute alchoholism. Which you exhibit in spades.

By jacksonwolff

May 15, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Myth: the mainstream media leans to the left

Truth: they leans in the direction of ratings.

a newscast producer would slap his mama, while exposing himself, while selling his soul to the devil, on live television, IF he thought it would get the ratings high enough.

We, as responsible citizens, should do our own research, and make up our own damn minds, no matter what side you are on.

By Jack666

May 15, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Jane Fonda was appropriately condemned for her flippant dismissal of complaints of mistreatment of POW’s. I have yet to hear, however, of any claim of mistreatment as bad as Bush has allowed in US run camps. Where’s your outrage against your man Bush?

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

DESPICABLE DERBY 2ND HEAT

JANE FONDA VS. GEORGE BUSH

JANE FONDA VS. DICK CHENEY

JANE FONDA VS. BILL KRISTOL

JANE FONDA VS. SEAN HANNITY

JANE FONDA VS. TOM DELAY

JANE FONDA VS. REP. FOLEY

JANE FONDA VS. RUSH LIMBAUGH

FONDA DOES NOT WIN THE HEAT!

By Truthman

May 15, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Jane Fonda rules!

You wish your fat, old wife looked as good in her 60s as does Ms. Fonda.

Your hate is so misplaced with folk like Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz and Gonzales still on the taxpayer’s dole - talk about corporate welfare!!!

Go for it, Jane! We KNOW we’re all on the correct side of history!

By Truthman

May 15, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Jane Fonda rules!

You wish your fat, old wife looked as good in her 60s as does Ms. Fonda.

Your hate is so misplaced with folk like Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz and Gonzales still on the taxpayer’s dole - talk about corporate welfare!!!

Go for it, Jane! We KNOW we’re all on the correct side of history!

By Jim

May 15, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Peter, Even if “your report” is accurate, I ask, what was the b*** doing there sucking up to the NVR’s?

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Election Theft Goes Global

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

JIM IS THAT YOU?

By Jim

May 15, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Bet your sweet arse it is

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

I CAN SPOT YOUR POSTS A MILE AWAY

WE DISAGREE

BUT YOU SIR…..I KNOW TO BE A GREAT AMERICAN

BE SAFE……..

By jim

May 15, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Dear IN THE NEWS You are right (haha) we will never agree on this subject. If she is such a hero, why wan’t she visiting our troops in SOUTH VIETNAM, rather than patronizing with the enemy. And Truthman, I’ll take my beautiful wife over Hanoi Jane any day of the week, even if Hanoi Jane wasn’t a traitor.

By LuckoDull

May 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

You want links, scumbag?:

Jane Fonda applauding an NVA anti-aircraft gun crew. These guns were used to shoot down American planes and contributed to the deaths of American Airmen.

I got links.

You got Cowardice.

POS

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By Truthsayer

May 15, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Jack666 - If you have not heard of the horrible deprivations and completely inhumane treatment received by US POWs during the Vietnam War, then you have either never paid attention or you just are completely and wilfully ingnorant on the subject. Read Jeremiah Denton’s book. There are other sources as well. Abu Graib in no way compares to the horrors of the Hanoi Hilton. By the way, your chosen handle must signify your belief - in all that is evil!

By steve-o

May 15, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

{{{By LuckoDull

May 15, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

I got links.

You got Cowardice.}}}

So you’re not a coward because you have weblinks?

ROTFLMAO!!! Dork.

By MCI

May 15, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Just testing.

By Lord Help Us

May 15, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Good Heavens!!

Republicans (except those on this blog) have thrown in the towel on the Bush Administration!

According to last month’s Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times national survey, Republicans by a 2-to-1 margin want the next president to move away from Bush’s policies.

Ouch baby…very ouch…

By Mike

May 15, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Really funny how all these old draft dodgers talking about Jane Fonda. Most of these old draft dodgers got us into this Iraq war now. Another funny was Ms Fonda, a lot of Viet vets then and a lot of people now dont want this war brought on by a group of people who always seem to never partake. For you on here who always have so much patriotism, join the army or send your kids to the recruiters. one old vet

By Peter

May 15, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Jim - - As an active duty military veteran (1969-1973), and against the Vietnam “conflict” at the time, I supported anti-war efforts. (Jane has regrets and apologized for youthful indiscretions.) The war on Vietnamese (and Iraqis) is far worse than her transgressions. We should not have been there to begin with. I expect there will be plenty of finger pointing when this quagmire is reviewed decades in the future, but the blame should be focused on Duh-bya’s administration for the invasion and all consequences (human toll, environmental and cultural destruction and financial burden).

By LuckoDull

May 15, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

{{{By Peter May 15, 2007 12:42 PM The war on Vietnamese (and Iraqis) is far worse than her transgressions.}}}

1) Why did your political party vote for the wars, both of them?

2) Why won’t they cut off funding for Iraq?

3) Why don’t you go live in Vietnam or Iraq and fight against the United States instead of doing it from safely within it’s protected borders?

Coward.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Peter

May 15, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

“SUPPORT OUR TROOPS” does not mean sending them into battle and cheering from the comfort of your daily routine.

Who sent our young men to Vietnam and demanded 58,195 sacrifice their lives? Robert McNamara (architect of the Vietnam war) made apologies for his role in the conflict. Where is the vilification of those who sent troops into battle and POW status? (Jane Fonda is a distraction from the real issues.)

BRING THE TROOPS HOME (let the war funding veto stand).

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

JIM IM SURE YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE APPRECIATES YOUR COMMENTS.

By IN THE NEWS

May 15, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Rev. Falwell found unconscious. CNN reports, “The Rev. Jerry Falwell arrived at Lynchburg General Hospital today around noon after being found unresponsive in his office. Ron Godwin, the executive vice president of Liberty University, confirmed that Falwell was found unconscious in his office after missing an appointment this morning.”

CANT STAND THIS GUYS POLITICS< BUT HOPE HE”S OK

By Peter (my 4 years of active duty say otherwise)

May 15, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Al Gore - 9/23/2002 (before the invasion for you historically challenged)

“The resulting chaos in the aftermath of a military victory in Iraq could easily pose a far greater danger to the United States than we presently face from Saddam. Here’s why I say that; we know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological weapons and chemical weapons throughout his country. As yet, we have no evidence, however, that he has shared any of those weapons with terrorist groups. If the administration has evidence that he has, please present it, because that would change the way we all look at this thing.”

By Midori

May 15, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Where did all this conversation about Jane Fonda come from?

Your “boogeyman/woman” of the day, Andy?

I can’t wait to read your cogent thoughts about Tokyo Rose.

By MM

May 15, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

The Jane Fonda subject came up because the rightwingnuts are following the directions on their cue card.

When pinned in a corner, change the subject to something irrelevant.

By steve-o

May 15, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

What’s the over-under on the number of times that Andy has masturbated to “Barbarella”?

By getalife

May 15, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Colbert was one lucky man.

Shocking testimony on CNN today

Falwell has died.

By Lord Help Us

May 15, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Funny Steve-o!

Substitute ‘Bush in his flight suit’ for ‘Barbarella’ and you’ll have to up the hi-lo!

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

MM wrote:

“When pinned in a corner, change the subject to something irrelevant.”

I don’t mind the Stupidest Troll on the Internets posting endless nonsense about Jane Fonda’s 35-year-old propaganda trek. Have at it. See if someone cares.

I do mind him lying, and I do mind his failure to acknowledge the lie.

By Bookie

May 15, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

“What’s the over-under on the number of times that Andy has masturbated to “Barbarella”?”

I think that over/under would be better suited for Truthman @ the 11:37’s.

By Midori

May 15, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Andy must be beside himself - his heroic gay-bashing, liar masquerading as a preacher has finally been called home.

Is that why you’re so fixated on Jane, Andy?

By The Watcher

May 15, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Boy would I like to be a fly on the wall just outside the Pearly Gates right now.

By getalife

May 15, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

“I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians, … the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say ‘you helped this [terrorist attack: 9/11] happen.” Jerry Falwell, 700 Club, 2001-SEP-13.

†

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Hope it’s nice ‘n warm where you’re headed, Falwell.

By MpeachW

May 15, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Jerry Falwell is dead

By ABS

May 15, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Here’s my favorite Falwell quote…

“Blow them all away in the name of the lord.”

By jacksonwolff

May 15, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Enough with the slamming of Falwell

That can wait till a little while.

we should show some dignity, and just keep quiet about him for 24 hours, if for no other reason, to show that we have the respect that so few on the right have shown the rest of the world.

By Lord Help Us

May 15, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

People…PLEASE!

A good man has passed! I understand that many have their reasons for disliking Rev. Falwell, but, he was a good man.

Do not lose sight of the many charitable organizations around the world that he sponsored, nor the hope and sustenance provided to needy people by his charities.

Rev. Falwells’ family, loved ones and congregation are mourning their loss and should be respected.

By Just sayin'

May 15, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

You nasty liberals have zero respect for the dead.

ZERO.

Many may not agree with his opinions but did he ever harm you?

There will be a warm seat in hell waiting for you too.

By Do We Respect This?

May 15, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from Falwell’s Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour’s tax-exempt status for 1986-87

1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his “Old Time Gospel Hour” to hawk a scurrilous video called “The Clinton Chronicles” that makes a number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton—among them that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders of political enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the project, evidence surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government (CHG). CHG’s Pat Matrisciana later admitted that Falwell and he staged an infomercial interview promoting the video in which a silhouetted reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton. (Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) “That was Jerry’s idea to do that,” Matrisciana recalled. “He thought that would be dramatic.”

November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease Liberty University’s financial woes. The donation, and several Falwell appearances at Moon conferences, raised eyebrows because Moon claims to be the messiah sent to complete the failed mission of Jesus Christ, a doctrine sharply at odds with Falwell’s fundamentalist Christian theology. (In 1978, before the Moon money started flowing, Falwell told Esquire magazine, “Reverend Sun Myung Moon is like the plague: he exploits boys and girls, and he should be exported.”)

Respect must be earned. His behavior did not deserve it.

By FALWELL IN HELL

May 15, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

Anyone who uses religion to beat down his fellow man and spends his whole career acting in a most unchristian like manner isn’t worthy of dignity. Falwell used religion to further an unAmerican agenda as well.

By FALWELL IN HELL

May 15, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Who’s to say it wasn’t God who struck him down?

By FALWELL IN HELL

May 15, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

By the way - don’t assume I’m a liberal. I hate hypocrisy no matter which side of the aisle it pops up on.

By RW-(the original)

May 15, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

I see the left, with the exception of LHU, is showing their true colors again.

Sick, sick, sick®

RIP Reverend Falwell

By Midori

May 15, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

and you evil, nasty, war mongering republicans have no respect for the living.

By MpeachW

May 15, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

I have a huge problem with Falwell’s past statements and actions. He had a very negative impact on politics in the US. However, I am also going to show some respect by not joining in the hate-fest.

By Do We Respect This?

May 15, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Respect for the dead - sure we got it.

We won’t leave the body laying about. We won’t raid the grave.

We also won’t pretend that we think he was ever truly a man of God.

Most everything out of his mouth was using God’s name in vain.

This is a man who called Desmond TuTu a phony.

By FALWELL IN HELL

May 15, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) - I’m on the right. Am I supposed to fall in line and act as if Falwell represented me just because he manipulated religion for the sake of my party? He was a hypocrite.

By rushncap

May 15, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

I will not mourn Falwell, but let’s hold off dumping on him for a few days. He was not a good human being, but let’s let his family and friends grieve. There will be ample time to remind everyone of his deeds later.

By jacksonwolff

May 15, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

I didn’t say that you had to respect him, but at least show some respect for the dead in general. As a gay american male, I don’t particularly care for him, or his message, but as a southerner, I will keep my mouth shut at least till his family has a chance to mourn.

I would expect the same from my friends on the right if, say, Al Sharpton where to pass away.

By steve-o

May 15, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

My condolensces to the Falwell family…

By @@

May 15, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

I never liked Falwell either, but his family; children…grandchildren?

They’re innocents.

You people never cease to amaze me.

You just aren’t human.

By Do We Respect This?

May 15, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Innocents?

The only thing required for evil to succeed is for the good to do nothing.

By Midori

May 15, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

BEEP

WHIR

BEEP

YOU ARE CORRECT, @@

By georgia 74

May 15, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

” You can be a king or a streetsweeper, but sooner or later you have to dance with the grim reeper.” Robert Alton Harris. See you Jerry.

By jacksonwolff

May 15, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

amazing, just as many people on the left have expressed their condolensces to the family, as have bashed the late revrend, and those on the right are still trying to make out as if all of those on the left are evil dead-bashers. hell, one of those bashing claims to be on the right

By Chris Riker

May 15, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Curious what you might do with ABC’s announcement that the Cavemen will be set in Atlanta, presumably home of racists.

By ABS

May 15, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

My goodness…you want to read some really bad Reverend bashing…they have opened a blog….

By @@

May 15, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

jacksonwolff:

My “you people” was intended for anyone who would display such abhorrent behavior.

RW excluded LHU. Delay in the posting here may have hindered acknowledgement.

I do commend those who have refrained from behaving cruelly.

By MpeachW

May 15, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Holy Moly the comments here are compliments compared to the comments on the Falwell blog.

By the stopper

May 15, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Have some respect for Falwell.

The man was a street fighter, a politico. He never minced words. I see no point, I see no reason to imagine that it somehow respects the man’s memory, not to note what an SOB he could be.

If there is an afterlife (and I want to believe that there is, and no, contrary to my snarky earlier comment, I do not believe there is a Hell because I don’t think God is a jerk) he’s getting to know the souls of men and women he thought were inferior to him. And that’s where he’ll find, finally, the enlightenment that eluded him in this world.

Happy now?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 15, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

-=-

I have no love for Falwell because of the many things he has done to the detriment of others while gaining much for himself, but I will not make light of his death.

I am not the one he must now face and be “judged by” for his life’s actions and deeds. My opinion means nothing when it comes to Mr Falwell now.

Rest in Peace - Jerry Falwell

Thomas/PNAC

By ABS

May 15, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

MpeachW, That’s what I was referring too…whew! There’s some real hate mongers over there.

Okay, I’m changing the subject. I’m at work an