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By Mike Luckovich | Thursday, May 3, 2007, 06:27 AM

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By George

May 3, 2007 8:01 AM | Link to this

Of course he can do that. When you live in a dream world then you can reject all other versions of reality. Just like AndyDull does.

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

Yeah, reality:

{{{Like their counterparts in the House, the Senate has larded its version of an “emergency” war spending bill with nearly $20 billion in pork-barrel outlays, including $100 million for the two major political parties’ 2008 presidential conventions. The $121 billion bill includes $102 billion for the troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as $14 billion for Hurricane Katrina aid and more than $4 billion for “emergency farm relief.”}}}

And that’s on top of a forced surrender to Al Qaeda.

Who is it that is out of touch?

With their own campaign promises, no less, the libs were against wasteful spending.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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{{{WORLD IN BRIEF: Military must tone it down, Turkey told-Urinal}}}

What the AJC doesn’t tell you is that the military is threatening the Islamists and have said they will defend the secular government.

Which of course is good news for the USA, so you won’t be hearing much of it from the Coward liberals.

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{{{Now, we are not scientists, but, to us, the winters seem colder not hotter. The Carbon Dioxide that is supposed to be the villain, is actually good not bad for trees, which everybody says are good for the planet. In fact, governments all over the world are expending effort and money to preserve the forests and plant new trees. The statistics show that using alternate fuels for automobiles actually costs more (considering government subsidies) and in the long run requires greater overall energy consumption than does gasoline. All of Gore’s sputterings might be the proper subject of honest debate, expect for one thing. Gore, as we have all now learned, is patently a hypocrite. He lives in a house that in one week, consumes twenty times the yearly energy use of an average home, and he flies around in private planes consuming vast amounts of fossil fuel and spewing enormous quantities of hurtful gasses into the atmosphere. His justification: He purchases Carbon Credits.}}}

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

{{{Al-Faisal, addressing the conference, also renewed his country’s offer to provide Iraq with $1 billion in loans, on the condition that the money be distributed equally among “Iraq’s geographical sectors.” He insisted that more Sunni Arabs must be brought into Iraq’s political process — the key dispute between Iraq and its neighbors.}}}

You may as well get used to be losers, you candy as-s liberals and Al Qaeda terrorists.

It’s not like it will be anything new to you.

Just a resumption of the status quo.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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{{{Lt. Gen. William Odom (Ret.), a Yale professor, argues that the U.S. should make Iran’s radical theocrats feel less “insecure” by not opposing their acquisition of nuclear weapons.}}}

Oh, great idea, give the homocidal mass murdering dictator some breathing room and hook him up with an atomic bomb.

Yeah, right.

No wonder you liberals are clamboring around this Odom, it sounds like he wants to rid the world of the United States just like you do.

Go pound sand, you Cowards.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this

I guess that Cartoon Boy doesn’t like reality. The reality for liberals (socialists) is that the President has a veto and that Nancy Pelosi and ‘Dingy’ Harry Ried knew full well that he would veto it. The legislation also only won by the barest of majorities in either house to begin with. The reality is that the Democrats had voted for surrender. The reality is that even experts that I watched on CNN last night said that a timetable for withdrawal is only a recipe for disaster. The reality is that the Democrats are invested in defeat. The reality is that if we show progress in Iraq and in the rest of the War on Terror, then they will be back in the political wilderness. Those facts are the reality. The President vetoed a sick fantasy worthy of someone like Larry Flint!

By Jesus

May 3, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

Hey AJC:

{{{Blog hours: 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday. If the comment box isn’t there, it’s after hours so DON’T post. thank you}}}

Your comment window “isn’t there” until 8:02 a.m.

So how did this happen?:

{{{By George May 3, 2007 —>8:01 AM<—- Of course he can do that. When you live in a dream world then you can reject all other versions of reality. Just like AndyDull does.}}}

Is “hacking” the blog acceptable again?

Just wondering.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Yes he can…

He has…He will…And, he will again…and again…and again…

This failed President belittles the thoughtful considerations of serious, competent, bipartisan consensus (think 9/11 Commission, Iraq Study Group).

He instead follows the council of those that have been frighteningly, and reliably, wrong (think Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld).

Over four years of ‘PROGRESS’ on the War in Iraq and the casualties continue to ‘surge.’

Over five years of ‘PROGRESS’ in the war on terrorism and terrorism gets worse, and worse, and worse every year.

Yet, the blind continue to follow the blind.

How sad…

By Mrs. Godzilla

May 3, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

Salvador Dali: I believe that the moment is near when by a procedure of active paranoiac thought, it will be possible to systematize confusion and contribute to the total discrediting of the world of reality.

By Brian Curtis

May 3, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

Denial isn’t just a presidential power: it’s Bush’s primary personality trait.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

GOT YOUR PORK RIGHT HERE!

[Among the needs Congress funded:

$50 million for establishment of new polytrauma facilities; $10 million for blind rehabilitation services; $100 million for enhancements to mental health services; $200 million for treatment of Operation Enduring Freedom 21 and Operation Iraqi Freedom veterans; $45 million for facility and equipment upgrades at the Department of Veterans Affairs polytrauma rehabilitation centers and the polytrauma network sites; $46 million for General Operating Expenses to improve efficiency in paying benefits; and $20 million for technology support and improvements for processing of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom veterans benefits claims](http://www.senate.gov/~bennelson/news/details.cfm?id=271756&&)

By Jim

May 3, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Damn Right he can. Let us hear what the other side has to offer other than not letting our troops do their job. Shame on you people who want to cut and run, hopefully terrorist don’t attack you or your loved ones. Shame on you for running away from a fight that must be staged over there. Shame on you for not supporting the ladies and gentlemen of our armed forces who daily fight for you so it doesn’t come home, but I guess then you will sit back in your in front of your nameless internet and blame GW for that also. I am not a blind GOP loyalsit, I voted for CLinton (I am ashamed to say), I am just an American who is concerned about our future. while I am not pleased about the progress of this war, I am still behind our troops, and not the gutless vote buying Demo’s who are trying to put a surrender date in a vote. If you beleive in it so much, then over ride the Veto, if your people think they can. I think they will run from this also, and say “why sould I vote to over ride the veto, It won’t pass, as you have said in the past. If your congressmen believe in it that much, remove the pork and make it straight forward vote, if you dare.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Here’s a little reality for you:

According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional U.S. troops to Iraq,” and opposition is up from 58% in February// A Bloomberg poll reveals 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea// POS found also that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested //A separate POS poll finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.” And 59% of voters say pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored (35%)// A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll show 69% of American voters trust military commanders more than members of Congress (18%) to decide when United States troops should leave Iraq. This includes 52% of Democrats, 69% of Independents and 88% of Republicans// According to a recent Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal of troops (4/18-22, 2007). That same poll found a plurality of adults (45%) believe a terrorist attack against the United States is more likely if we withdraw our troops from Iraq while the “country remains unstable”//Should a date for withdrawal be set, 70% of American believe it is likely that “insurgents will increase their attacks in Iraq” starting on that day. This is supported by 85% of Republicans, 71% of Independents and 60% of Democrats.// An LA Times/Bloomberg polls reveals that 50% of Americans say setting a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq “hurts” the troops, while only 27% believe it “helps” the troops

Nancy Pelosi needs to “get a clue”!

By @@

May 3, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Absolutely ml! He can do that.

This has become a “reality show” for clear-thinking Americans.

The Democrats have launched “a political war”.

The safety and well-being of our troops aren’t even rolling in their credits.

Disgusting!

They’ll have “their” reality show cancelled in ‘08.

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Dubya has made it all too clear. Democrats, many of whom argued four years ago that occupying Iraq would be a disaster as it has turned out to be, and who have since been far ahead of the White House in identifying the nature of the crisis that has since developed, are now to be dismissed as the players of political games when they put forth a strategy that would begin bringing US troops home from Iraq.

That’s quite a stretch for a president who is unable to recognize the flaws in his own neo-conservative vision that has proven to be wrong at every turn, and whose determination to play politics with life-and-death decisions has defined not just his approach to the occupation of Iraq but his entire term as president.

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Oh, and don’t forget…

Our ally in the war on terror (Pakistan) is STILL providing safe haven for Al Qaeda…

And, the gov’t in Iraq our soldiers are dying to help solidify is allied with Moqtada al Sadr and significantly influenced by Iran…

It looks like ‘SUCCESS’ in this war will ensure continued safe haven for Al Qaeda and an Iraq gov’t comprised of terrorists…

Congratulations to the supporters and enablers of this outcome.

You must be proud…

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

ml, now this is freakin funny. Not for the reason you intended it to be, but because you and the people who agree with the “Bush Lied Crowd” chose to opt out of reality many years ago.

Please explain to me how democrat senators and congressmen can stand before the world, in the later part of 1998, and say Saddam is developing WMD’s and making a mockery of the inspection process. Please remember ml, the UN inspectors were kicked out of Iraq prior to the dems’ statements regarding Saddam and WMD’s and remained out until many of those same democrats voted to allow the use of force. So, the dems held those beliefs in 1998 and presumably maintained those beliefs during the inspector’s absence, but now they say the “chimperor” lied to them about Saddam’s intentions and his WMD capabilities? It looks like, the dems can change their story for political purposes and people like you convince the weaker minded amongst us that the dems are honest and Bush is the liar? Please tell me how that makes logical sense. It amazed me from the beginning and continues to amaze me every day that belief gains more traction. What is even more amazing is when the same people who bought the “Bush lied” mantra will then turn around and tell people like myself that I am a sheep. I really don’t know if it is funny, sad or scary.

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

From AmericaBlog:

Just a month or so after Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met with senior Syrian government officials, and was labeled a traitor by Republicans for visiting “a terror state,” US Secretary of State Condi Rice is now planning to meet with senior Syrian government officials. Imagine that.

So does Pelosi get credit for the breakthrough in relations, or is Condi a traitor too?

Good question! -Blackadder

By @@

May 3, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Another ugly reality that the Democrats don’t get.

Al Gore, Ugly American

((Gore flew over to Canada last week and loudly blasted the Canadian government for its rejection of the Kyoto Treaty as “a complete and total fraud.”))

((Speaking at a Toronto screening of his movie “An Inconvenient Truth,” he announced that the Canadian government’s new, more realistic plan to reduce greenhouse gases “is designed to mislead the Canadian people.”))

((That wasn’t Gore’s first back-kick in the international china shop. A few days earlier, he publicly insulted Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, our closest ally in Latin America, by refusing to share a podium with him at a Miami environmental conference.))

((Gore justified his lack of class by making wild accusations that Uribe has ties to Colombia’s paramilitary guerrillas and is thus a human rights violator.))

((An outsider like Gore has no idea why Canadians elected the government he attacked. But in the Internet age that hasn’t stopped him from helping himself to all the privileges of political participation — without the responsibility.))

((Canada’s environment minister, John Baird, in fact said Gore didn’t seem to have read Canada’s climate plan at all.))

((If the media are any indication, Canadians were not impressed: Canadian editorials had titles like: “Time to Muffle Al Gore’s Exhaust Pipe.”))

((But we do worry about the impact of Gore’s insults against an embattled ally like Colombia’s Uribe. His nation is under fire from a deadly Marxist insurgency and now needs U.S. support, not just in aid but trade.))

((Gore’s obnoxious insult was big news in Colombia, emboldening democracy’s enemies there, and set a bad example for others here. President Bush seemed to recognize this, swiftly inviting Uribe to the White House this week — in a not-so-subtle reminder to Gore that there are some places he won’t be able to meddle.))

Sorry for the lengthy post. Liberals here tend to bypass realities. Sometimes you have to “shove it” when the liberal blog host restricts your linking freedoms.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Obamamaniacs,

How do you all feel about this? Note that I don’t ask you to “think”, just “feel” since the attraction to Obama seems to be based on emotions, not on his qualifications to be President:

Obama Camp Takes Control of MySpace Page

His biggest fan is “heartbroken”. Dumb move on the campaign’s part, IMHO.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

AND THIS

Americans siding with Dems against Bush

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

“By the way, in the report it said, it is — the government may have to put in more troops to be able to get to that position. And that’s what we do. We put in more troops to get to a position where we can be in some other place. The question is, who ought to make that decision? The Congress or the commanders? And as you know, my position is clear — I’m the commander guy.” -Bush

I can’t believe some of you still admire a man who speaks like a 7th grader.

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

{{{But there are unmistakably hopeful signs. “Sectarian killings are down, because we are in the neighborhoods,” providing security and getting intelligence. And Anbar province has seen a “dramatic, breath-taking turnaround.” He said of the insurgents, “If the Iraqi police gets strong and stays strong in Ramadi [the capital of Anbar], they’re screwed.”}}}

And so are you candy as-s liberals, screwed.

So you fight here in America, fight to abandon our troops and fight for the victory that Al Qaeda wants against us.

Sniveling Cowards.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

IF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT THE PELOSICRATS THEN WHY CAN’T THEY GET ENOUGH VOTES TO OVERRIDE THE VETO?

Even with the Avocados for Troops bribes.

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

It’s SCARY, Scooter, and here’s why:

Regardless of who said what over the last 5 to 10 years…

THIS President made the decisions and executed the strategy that have led to a situation in Iraq that has steadily deteriorated for four plus years and initiated a ‘War on terror that has resulted in a (need I say) ‘scary’ ESCALATION in terrorist activity all over the globe.

At SOME POINT, you and others that relentlessly defend against ANY and ALL criticism of this President need to demand competence.

Otherwise, the facts I have stated above show you to be nothing other than a partisan hack…

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

””“IF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT THE PELOSICRATS THEN WHY CAN’T THEY GET ENOUGH VOTES TO OVERRIDE THE VETO?”“”

GOT CIVICS?

(IT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT TOUGH)

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - regarding your 8:42:

I FEEL that it was a stupid move. One that is more in line with a fascist regime.

I THINK you’re being disingenuous for feigning outrage over it because it seems like something Rove and company would pull.

I am quite disappointed in Obama for allowing it to happen.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

blackadder

I am not “feigning outrage” you freaking moron. When are you going to get reading comprehension skills that are above a third grader?

By @@

May 3, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Another reality that liberals want to ignore.

Fuels Rush In

((A study just published by Mark Jacobson, a Stanford University civil and environmental engineering professor, in the peer-reviewed journal Environmental Science and Technology, adds another consequence — that 200 more people would die each year from respiratory problems if all U.S. cars ran on ethanol.))

((Most of these additional deaths would occur in, surprise, Los Angeles.))

Don’t be fooled by the liberals. With Roe v. Wade being threated by the Supreme Court, the “compassionate” liberals will need to cut down on the population some other way.

They’re gonna kill you with global warming hysteria.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

YEP SHES FEIGNING OUTRAGE ALL RIGHT

ITS A FEIGNING NITE IN GEORGIA

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

{{{By Blackadder May 3, 2007 8:37 AM So does Pelosi get credit for the breakthrough in relations, or is Condi a traitor too?}}}

I’m pretty sure that Condi will be discussing Syria’s surrender not America’s like Pelosi was.

Duh.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

{{{President Bush and congressional leaders began negotiating a second war funding bill yesterday, with Democrats offering the first major concession: an agreement to drop their demand for a timeline to bring troops home from Iraq.}}}

Cutting and running from MoveOn.

And bowing before the feet of the Bush Master, ehehe.

Snivel, Cowards, snivel.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Thank you BD for proving, once again, you are incapable of civil discourse.

By @@

May 3, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

Well….this is “optimism”, something liberals rebel against.

“Terrorism by The Numbers” (Subscription only from Stratfor)

Yet, because the total global figure remained relatively constant, that means that somewhere there was a massive decrease in violent activity —the second notable trend. Nearly all of the increase in violent incidents in the Iraqi and Afghan wars was compensated for by a dawning peace in one location: Nepal.

During Nepal’s civil war, Maoists regularly detained hundreds of people, rounding up entire schools. In early 2006, the war — while not exactly resolved — advanced toward a political settlement. This slow progress toward normality in Nepal had a dramatic impact on global “kidnapping” figures, reducing the global total by roughly 22,000.

Nothing can “dawn” in a liberal’s dark pessimism.

Civil wars will go on forever and ever and ever and……

By LeeAnn

May 3, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

Wow. devotion to Obama is based on emotion and not his qualifications to be President?

Hmmm…

And what, pray tell, is the devotion to Bush based on? this, I GOTTA hear!!

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Lucko-Cho, you forget…

Syria (like Iran, Pakistan and many other terrorist sponsors) has been a beneficiary of Bush’s incompetence.

Unfortunately, the (ironic) facts of Condi’s own State Dept. report on terrorism illustrate dramatic INCREASES in terrorist activities since Bush began his ‘War on Terror.’

Also, can you point to any evidence of Pelosi’s discussion of America’s ‘surrender’ with Syria?

Thanks in advance…

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

AND SO IT GOES

FACTBOX-Security developments in Iraq, May 2

By Paul

May 3, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - BlackAdder

While not an “Obamamaniac” (I do find him more refreshing than many other candidates, though) I don’t consider him a fascist. If I recall correctly, the site was a myspace site, it had tens of thousands of contacts, it began before he announced and the campaign wanted control of Obama’s positions vs someone’s interpretation of them. That’s understandable. Heaven knows we get enough misrepresentation of politicians.

They should have paid him - what, 40 grand - he asked for building up the contacts. That would have been a nice gesture.

Understandable? Sure. Cheaply done? Yeah. Fascist? Nope.

Of more interest to me was an article this morning pointing out how he (criticizes/lectures/gives advice/says) to groups he’s courting. He tells African American audiences they disenfranchise themselves by not voting, scolds rappers and criticizes antiintellectualism among blacks, represented by children telling other children who get good grades they’re acting white. Then he tells white parents its important to turn off the tv and demand (not ask, demand) they finish homework.

So much for traditional theory on how to run a successful campaign.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Blackadder, IN THE NEWS, Lord Help Us et.al. You folks are spinning so much this morning you might need some dramanine! Reality bites, doesn’t it? The President has a CONSTITUTIONAL right and DUTY to veto bad legislation. FDR did it over 600 times. I guess he was just “ignorning” the will of the people too?

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Snake,

Aren’t you the freak who fantasizes about punching people who don’t agree with you?

My post about Obama was very straightforward and did not have a hint of “outrage”, but you are too hallucinatory to see that.

It is impossible to have “civil discourse” with intellectually challenged, BDS afflicted, irrational, pathological liars who can’t read.

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Truthsayer,

I haven’t mentioned the veto…what are you talking about?

I HAVE mentioned some facts that you are welcome to dispute.

OR, you could go the easy path with some fictional accusations and sophomoric metaphors.

Your choice…

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us - I was just talking about the totality of your liberal discourse today. It is right off of the talking points from Moveon.org and the DNC. You ignore any facts which don’t dovetail with your opinions, which seem to be based on the blind hatred of one man rather than the TRUTH!

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Where did I say or even imply that Obama is a “fascist”?

It’s about incompetence and hypocrisy. He should have paid the guy for his time and effort. It doesn’t reflect well on his abilities, or sincerity as a champion of the little guy, that this poor decision was made.

These Democrats love taking taxpayer dollars to pay for their pet programs, but God forbid they have to reach into their own pockets, or ample campaign chests.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

The President has a CONSTITUTIONAL right and DUTY to veto bad legislation.

THE REVERSE IS ALSO TRUE

THE CONGRESS HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND DUTY TO LEGISLATE THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

By hterrya

May 3, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

With regard to the comments by @@ about Colombia, made May 3, 2007 8:40 AM

@@, you clearly know NOTHING about Colombia.

Have you ever BEEN to Colombia? Have you read El Tiempo or even El Espectador?

Are you aware of President Uribe’s cocaine connections and his support of right-wing cocaine-connected thugs (which the Mainstream Media inaccurately label “paramilitary” instead of “criminals”)?

Are you aware that:

Those thugs have terrorized farmers and farm communities, killing thousands and demanding tribute?

Those thugs claim to be doing their criminal deeds to protect Colombia from the FARC thugs (which you called Marxists), but have NEVER confronted the FARC thugs (of whom the right-wing thugs are DEATHLY afraid, though FARC thugs are outnumbered by the right-wing thugs 2 to 1)?

Many of Uribe’s appointees have landed in jail for criminal activities?

Obviously not.

Gore was correct in his allegations about President Uribe’s human rights violations.

However, as usual, you ineptly tried to turn this thread to focus on Gore, rather than on actual topic of the current criminal, corrupt U.S. presidnt’s lack of connection to reality, a moral and ethical failing you share with him.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

PLEASE SHARE YOUR “CIVICS” lESSON WITH US!

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

Truthsayer,

You seem to have made your choice…sigh.

Either way, your post at 9:29 is, ironically, a PERFECT illustration of exactly what YOU are criticizing…

Reread your post with 3 very simple mods:

{{I was just talking about the totality of your CONSERVATIVE discourse today. It is right off of the talking points from HANNITY and the RNC. You ignore any facts which don’t dovetail with your opinions…}}

Not much substance from either perspective, huh?

But, alas, I’ll help you…

Go back and address the specific CONTENT of any of my posts, disagree if you disagree and provide a basis for your disagreement.

It’s not that hard and much more credible…

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

hyterra,

FARC’s role in the drug trade.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

CHILDREN SHOULD DO THEIR OWN HOMEWORK DON”T YOU THINK?

YOU MIGHT START HERE

By Mike

May 3, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Looks like all of the CNN analysts are vetoing reality too.

“Pulling U.S. forces from Iraq could trigger catastrophe, CNN analysts and other observers warn, affecting not just Iraq but its neighbors in the Middle East, with far-reaching global implications.

Sectarian violence could erupt on a scale never seen before in Iraq if coalition troops leave before Iraq’s security forces are ready. Supporters of al Qaeda could develop an international hub of terror from which to threaten the West. And the likely civil war could draw countries like Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran into a broader conflict.

President Bush vetoed a war spending bill Tuesday precisely because the Democrat-led Congress required the first U.S. combat troops to be withdrawn by October 1 with a goal of a complete pullout six months later.”

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/02/iraq.scenarios/index.html

By Ahm a Gonna HATE Ya

May 3, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

^^^Looks like the Neo-Puritans are still ‘spreadin the HATE’ this mornin (‘You’re gonna HATE- ‘07, ‘08, Special K cereal, little pink bunny rabbits, nose hair, yo Momma, Teletubbies, canvas underwear…’). Guess when ya HATE yourself ya just gotta HATE everything else and if ya HATE everything, ya just gotta figure that everybody else is as big a HATER as you are.

New Republican motto for ‘08- “YOU’RE GONNA HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE, and when ya catch your breathe, HATE some more!!!”

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Reality strikes -

Democrats Back Down On Iraq Timetable

By JP

May 3, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Jim @ 8:23: “who daily fight for you so it doesn’t come home” - There is really no chance Iraq’s insurgents will end up here. This is the denial of reality this entire war-funding charade is based upon.

Insurgents in Iraq are right to try to force US troops out of the country, a former British army commander has said.

Reasons Not to Invade Iraq, by George Bush Sr. - 1998: This is frighteningly prophetic. Maybe the brains are a recessive gene?

By Fear Monger

May 3, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

2008 a fabulous year republicans selling greed, hate and fear

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us - You libs amuse me because you do think we are a bunch of mind numbed robots, but actually you folks are. I rarely listen to Hannity or any other talk radio hosts. I have never even logged on to the RNC site. I do read Nationl Review AND The New Republic as well as other sources of news and opinons. You make assumptions that only vapid liberals would make about how and where we conservatives form our opinions. Have you ever read Adam Smith? I have read him and Karl Marx. See I am able to reach opinions and conclusions based on facts rather than blind emotions!

By JP

May 3, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Hypocrisy knows no bounds!! In 1989, “[the local chapter of the ACLU and the ACLU Foundation of Southern California defended Hannity’s right of free speech.]”(http://www.sltrib.com/search/ci_5774755?source=sb-delicious)

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, I like how you totally avoided the content of my post and created your own points to argue. Problem is your point requires one to ignore ANY and ALL positive that comes out of ANY province of Iraq. Your point requires me to believe that not finishing yet another objective in the Middle-East is the best course of action, even though UBL uses such retreats to illustrate the Great Satan can be defeated by the use of terror.

Here is another example of liberal idiocy that gets eaten up by those that claim to be sooo smart; all Americans realize the CIC has access to exponentially more foreign intelligence than the citizenry does and now dems are telling their followers the CIC has to act on the “will of the people”, no matter how little the scope of their foreign understanding.

By DUMBA$$ ALERT

May 3, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Thats the ACLU’s job.

Defending free speech - even for flaming gasbags.

Rushie used them do.

By georgia 74

May 3, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish saying someone is a liar and irrational, that coming from the most irrational liar(other than Andi), on the blog. Take it as a compliment.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

{{{By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

””“IF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT THE PELOSICRATS THEN WHY CAN’T THEY GET ENOUGH VOTES TO OVERRIDE THE VETO?”“”

GOT CIVICS?

(IT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT TOUGH)}}}

in the news,

i’m going to use ml’s writing style because i am tired of shouting. linking to a child’s website does not explain that^^^response.

try using your own words, and please do it with an indoor voice.

By SNIFFING OUT B.S.

May 3, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

””“”all Americans realize the CIC has access to exponentially more foreign intelligence than the citizenry does”“”

IS THIS THE GOOD INTELLIGENCE

OR

THE COOKED INTELLIGENCE?

By Democrats are Gonna LOVE '08!

May 3, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

5 Reasons the GOP Faces an Uphill Climb in ‘08

It’s mostly about Iraq- One issue dominates the national agenda: Iraq

Excitement is contagious- Democrats are more excited about next year’s election than Republicans are: 59% of Democratic-leaning voters call themselves extremely or very enthusiastic about the election, compared with 50% of Republicans.

Fewer say they’re with GOP- In 2004, when Bush won re-election, those interviewed for Gallup polls through the year were slightly more likely to call themselves Republicans than Democrats.

In 2006, however, Democrats outnumbered Republicans by nearly 4 percentage points in the year’s combined Gallup polls. Add the partisan leanings of independent voters and the Democratic edge rose to 10 points — the biggest edge for either party since 1991, when Gallup began tracking which way independents “leaned.”

Money flowing to Democrats- Republicans traditionally have been able to count on one sure advantage over Democrats: money.

Not this time.

During the first three months of the year, Republican presidential candidates took in $53.4 million in contributions. That would have been a record for this stage of a campaign except that Democratic candidates took in $78.4 million — nearly 50% more.

Hunger for change growing- In modern American politics, control of the White House has swung like a pendulum.

The appetite for change may be the strongest tide running against the GOP. “This country is so unhappy with the presidency of George W. Bush that that is the central dynamic in the 2008 election,” Democratic pollster Peter Hart says. “That is what gives the Democrats an open opportunity.”

By 2-1, those surveyed by Gallup say they are dissatisfied with the way things are going in the USA. That’s the sourest climate in a presidential election year since 1992, when the elder Bush lost his bid for a second term.

Asked in the USA TODAY poll who they would want to see win the White House if the election were today, 51% of registered voters said the Democrat, 38% the Republican — a landslide.

RIP-GOP ! ! !

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

TOLD YA IT WOULDN”T GET IT

I PREFER TO USE MY CLEAR STRONG FREE SPEECH VOICE …..

YOU CAN WHISPER OR COWER - WHATEVER

By Paul

May 3, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

More AJC server fun today. Just came back and saw my response to you didn’t post.

You did not say Obama was a “fascist.” My response was addressed to you and BlackAdder, who said the Obama campaign’s actions in taking over the myspace account smacked of fascism.

I agreed with you that he should have paid the guy. That was a lot of contacts that they could have leveraged.

By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

WTF is up with this pansy, Blackadder, today? The clown attacks Buy Danish and when she responds in kind he starts crying and blames her. Delusional AND a dumbass. Nice combo wuss!

By the way snakeboy, the problem with the Pelosi visit wasn’t the visit itself. It was coming out with her stooge and saying the United States now had a new foreign policy, a Democrat one. Wouldn’t you like to see the details of our new shadow foreign policy? Take that to your mentor over at feverswamp.com.

See y’all at Happy Hour!

getalife,

Have fun picking out all the people you think I am while I’m gone.

L8R

By @@

May 3, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

htyerra:

I’m well aware of the allegations against “members” of Uribe’s administration. Their imprisonment too.

A logical-thinking person would pose the question…”Why is FARC attacking Uribe?” but then you aren’t logical in your thinking, are you?

Highly emotional, but not logical.

Question for you? Why are you so willing to overlook the proven atrocities committed by Saddam against his people, and then eager to focus on the “allegations” against Uribe. Could it be because he fights against terrorism (FARC) like Bush. YOU want to pick and choose the terrorists? Your opinion is that it’s Bush and the U.S.?

Obviously you share the “two marbles” rolling around in Gore’s head.

Scratch ^^^ that. Gore has lost his two. Now his head is just empty with “childish” rants and they’re “global”.

Your head is just an empty globe.

I’ll have to read your response to my question later. I’m off to get ready for work.

By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Ah one more for the road.

{{{{{{Asked in the USA TODAY poll who they would want to see win the White House ————>if the election were today<————-}}}}}}

Spot the flaw in that poll question.

PS I left a hint

Bye!

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

Democrats are gonna love… I’m afraid that polls at this time in the cycle are really just a bunch of unprocessed fertilizer. You are being “optimistic” when you are ignoring other questions asked. When voters are asked to choose between actual candidates, the Demoncrats don’t do so well. You folks really love to spin, spin, spin. You also tend to fall into the trap of citing polls when favorable to you. You, like the Republicans, ignore them when they are not. The moral of the story is, don’t live by polls because you will die by them. The Democrats are big fools and they will blow it in ‘08!

By HEY DUDDY EDWIN

May 3, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

BEST EXAMPLE OF SPIN EVER

!!!!!!MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!

THE DEMS HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO BEFORE THEY EVEN GET CLOSE TO THAT ONE

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHMY!

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

What?

By getalife

May 3, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

RW,

First, you are lying about leaving. Paid trolls work during blog business hours.

I know who you are and will not expose you anymore. Times are tough.

There were two Dems from GA who voted no to overide the veto:

John Barrow, Georgia Jim Marshall, Georgia

Voters may want to ask them why.

By @@

May 3, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Whoops! My apologies “Global Hyterrea”.

I intended to leave this.

Leave this?

Sorry, I meant to say “shove this”.

(((RAY SUAREZ: Is this a very difficult time for Colombia to come with requests to Washington? There are political supporters of yours who are in legal trouble. There have been allegations against your administration, even against you personally. Is this a difficult time to be asking Washington for favors?)))

(((ALVARO URIBE: Colombia has improved a lot. Colombia has made significant progress. When my administration began, Colombia have 68 homicides for every 100,000 inhabitants. That year, we had 38. At the beginning of my administration, there were over 126 cases of trade union leaders’ homicides. This year, so far, we have had one.)))

Outta here.

By HEY DUDDY EDWIN

May 3, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

IT KNOWS ITS NAME…..

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Eatin’ Crow - You are ignoring facts. Pelosi’s trip was made as a slap in the face and she specifically stated that with the Demoncrats in charge there would be a new foreign policy. She also LIED to the world while in Syria concerning what the PM of Israel had told her. Rice is doing her job. Pelosi is not the Secretary of State. In fact, the Speaker of the House is given no such role by the Constitution, you know that document that you like to pick and choose from the parts you folks like and the ones you don’t? Spin, spin, spin.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Paul,

In the future perhaps it would be better if you address Blackadder separately from me since we share absolutely nothing in common and I don’t wish to be associated with his idiotic comments.

{{{By georgia 74

May 3, 2007 10:10 AM |

Buy Danish saying someone is a liar and irrational, that coming from the most irrational liar(other than Andi), on the blog.}}}

georgia74,

I’m going out now but will check in later. Please specifically cite one “lie” that I have posted from the archives.

Have a nice day.

By Lies By Danish #1

May 3, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

These Democrats love taking taxpayer dollars to pay for their pet programs, but God forbid they have to reach into their own pockets, or ample campaign chests.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Lies by BuyDanish - How is that a lie. When has Ted Kennedy sold all that he has and given it to the poor. What about all of Bill “the Bastard” Clinton’s speaking fees? Has he given any to help the starving in Darfur or the poor who have been allegedly deprived of medical care in the Bronx? Why hasn’t Diane Feinswine given all of her millions away? No they just vote to raise taxes on the “rich” (anyone who makes over $80,000 and doesn’t have it protected by some elaborate trust set-up). Now tell me how Buy Danish lied again?

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Hey DuddyEdwin - I am neither, but thank you for associating me with them. Better that than a liberal.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Today, the Israeli people will shows us how to deal with failed leadership who lost a war.

Condi in Egypt will not do a damn thing.

Its the policy that needs changed .

By Lies By Danish #1

May 3, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

truthduddyedwinslayer is pretty good at the spin cycle too

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

Please reread my response. I specifically addressed the rhetoric you mentioned over the last 5 to 10 years. I also distinguished what politicians SAID from the decisions made by the CIC and the incompetent execution of the War in Iraq and the ‘War on Terrorism.’

To you that may be ‘totally avoided,’ but to the intellectually honest, it is not…

Now, your next post states that ‘your point requires one to ignore ANY and ALL positive that comes out of ANY province in IRAQ.’

Wrong again…Read my posts again and tell me how you extrapolated this concoction.

Lastly, I don’t think you really want to get into your point that ‘ALL Americans realize the CIC has access to exponentially more foreigh intelligence that the citizenry…’

If you believe this, then you should be very disappointed in the CIC’s false statements about WMD, connections to Al Qaeda, Aluminum Tubes, pilotless drones for spreading chemical weapons, any number of statements of ‘Progress’ in Iraq, etc.

You should also be at least concerned about…

The deteriorating situation in Iraq over the last 4 plus years.

The enormous escalation in terrorism since the ‘War on Terrorism’ was started.

Al Qaeda still getting safe haven in Pakistan.

The Iraq gov’t that our troops are dying to solidify is comprised of terrorists (Moqtada al Sadr) and is influenced by the world’s worst state sponsor of terror (Iran).

Why don’t YOU address these facts?

By reebok

May 3, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Bush’s “strategery” has become clear…hang on until his reign of error is over and leave the mess for someone else to clean up. In the meantime, keep referring to Iraqis as ‘terrorists’ with the implication being that we are currently battling terrorists on their turf to keep them off ours…while actually all we’re doing is referreeing (sp?) a civil war.

BTW, wasn’t it treason when Nancy Pelosi went to Baghdad? She was elected…Condoleeza Rice wasn’t…is that the difference?

By US Constitution

May 3, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Congress holds the power of the purse.

Bush needs to get a clue!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Vet Imprisoned for Seeking Benefits

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Lies By Danish - I noticed that you did not reply to the FACTS that I posted. There was no spin there, just facts. It seems that you are long on accusation and short on proof, rather like Mike Nifong!

By Talk the Talk

May 3, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

A Case Against Cheney

Good article by Richard Cohen of the WaPo which rebuts Dana Milbank’s recent column in the same paper ridiculing Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s call to impeach VP Cheney.

Here’s what “The Nation” had to say about this exchange-

Milbank’s column was a classic example of inside-the-beltway policing of the debate—and it used the old technique of making fun of a legitimate dissenter.

Cohen, on the other hand, treats Kucinich with the respect he deserves. He may disagree with the remedy of impeachment, considering it too “radical”—but he doesn’t stoop to ridicule Kucinich for his stance. (And as would any semi-sentient person living in the US today, Cohen agrees that the congressman’s case against Cheney—lying the American people into war—is “persuasive.”)

Republicans reminded us that ‘lying to the American people’ (“I did not have sex with that woman”) was an impeachable offense and vital to the continued well-being of the USA.

Would Republicans NOW have us believe that ‘lying to the American people’ is not such a big deal after all? Why are they WAFFLING? Is ‘lying to the American people’ somehow less vital than it was 10 years ago or have Republicans had their masks torn asunder and we are now just seeing their true faces?

Republicans always ‘talk the talk’ but they never ‘walk the walk’!

By Paul

May 3, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Lord Help Us 10:59

While I think it’s true the Executive and certain members of the Legislative have access to a heckuva lot more intel than the average (with no security clearance) citizen (unless you’re a reporter, then you get fed lots), when you stated

[[you should be very disappointed in the CIC’s false statements about WMD, connections to Al Qaeda, Aluminum Tubes, pilotless drones for spreading chemical weapons, any number of statements of ‘Progress’ in Iraq, etc.]]

I’ll agree to a point. CIC’s statements were false - that does not mean intentionally false, any more than a doctor repeating the best known information (which later turns out to be false) is spreading falsehoods or lies. As we’ve heard from former Director, CIA Tenet (and learned from his book) he told the Pres and Congress:

— from the prior to current Administrations, CIA thought Iraq had WMDs (and subsequently found, after the invasion, plans for reconstitution of WMD manufacture when UN eased back)

— from the prior to current Administrations, CIA thought Iraq was reconstituting its nuke program and should have one by 2007-2009

— there was no “command and control” between Iraq and Al Queda but there were associations and the fear after 9/11 was that a handoff of WMDs would occur

Tenet maintains these were errors - not lies - that he presented to (both Presidents) and select members of Congress.

By Paul

May 3, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Talk the Talk 11:11

None of the other candidates during the debate agreed with Kucinich’s impeachment proposal

BTY the “inside the beltway policy of ridiculing the dissenter” (rather than giving a thoughtful rebuttal) seems to have extended past the Beltway and onto this forum and certain cable news outlets and blogs.

By More Lies by Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

1)Meterologists in great numbers disagree with the non-scientist Al Gore. How can you claim that there is “consensus”?

2) I do have common sense

3) I don’t care whether you personally cite Gore - everyone else on your side does and they use his arguments and his fraud of a movie to spread global warming theory

4) There is “overwhelming evidence” that Islamists want to create a caliphate in Iraq and use it as a base of operations to kill every American and Jew on the planet.

5) I know first hand how important it is to go after “low-level” activity as part of the “broken windows” theory.

6) Let’s see, we have one kook named Eric Rudolph and Islam has 8,000 terror attacks since 9/11.

7) The point is that Democrats are trying to criminalize politics

By Debate Moderator

May 3, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Pay close attention to the libs debating style. It’s brought on by chronic stomach acid (BDS) resulting in repetitive belching.

Man does it stink.

By Talk the Talk

May 3, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul 11:14

Yeh, I know the idea is as ludicrous as was the Clinton impeachment debacle. I just like calling attention to the waffling and lack of conviction that is exhibited by today’s Republican party.

Democrats are not Republicans and although they have one solitary Kucinich (as you said), the Democrats are not going to follow the FAILED example set by their Republican counterparts of a decade ago and skip merrily down a road to an impeachment that they know would waste the time and resources of the American public, and contibute to the devicive atmosphere of today’s political landscape.

Regular people, inside the beltway or out, call that “CLASS”!

By Paul

May 3, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Talk the Talk 11:14

Now we can hope that both Republicans and Democrats will no longer follow payback principles or revenge for previous slights and instead will emulate only positive qualities and practices from the political opposition so the American public will benefit from their service.

Done laughing yet?

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Lies By Danish - cite evidence that one of those things is a lie. You have taken much out of context and you offer no proof to back yourself up. The fact is that the Democrats do want to criminalize politics (along with Senator McCain, their patsy on this issue) and that Gore is a fool, a liar and a scare monger. Many scientists do disagree with much of the crap beins spewed by global warming alarmists, including that man is completely responsible for the phenomenon, which actually is not phenominal at all, but simply a RECURRING natural cycle.

As they taught us in philosophy class when we studied Aristotle, back your rhetoric with facts, or you opinion is meaningless. Just calling something a lie is not the same as proving it false. By the way, Buy Danish has a lot more common sense than ANY of the liberals on this blog.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Talk the talk - A Democrat saying that the party of the JACKASS has class! That is a good one. The party of Bill and Hillary Clinton! The party of Al Sharpton! The party of Jesse Jackson! The party of Ted Kennedy! The party of Robert “White Trash” Byrd! The party of William Jefferson! The party of Huey and Earl Long! The party of James Eastland! The party of “Screaming” Howard Dean! The party of JAMES CARVILLE! Need I say more?

By StillbornDittos

May 3, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

And just what does Toothshaver know about the natural cycle of global warming? Less than nothing?

Aristotle? You’re not fit to drink out of his enema bag, Truthsayer.

Buy Danish aint fit to drink out of Rosie Odonald’s douchebag.

bwa

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bwahabwahabwahabwahabwaha

By getalife

May 3, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

That is hilarious Texas turning on the fake cowboy.

Good for them.

By Paul

May 3, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

getalife

Texas turned on Imus? They’d better watch it or he’ll sue them, too! (maybe he can use that DC judge/lawyer suing the Korean immigrant shopowners for $65 mil for misplacing his trousers).

By Talk the Talk

May 3, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Paul 11:33

That’s a little funny, but seriously I think the tenor of debate is changing and will continue to improve. I think a groundswell of disgust over negative campaigning is currently underway but unrecognized by both parties at present.

I think it is one of those juggernauts, like the moderate vote, that will be ignored until it blows one party or the other for a loop, then each party will pay attention to nothing else…..til the next election cycle! :)

By More Lies by Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

1)Meterologists in great numbers disagree with the non-scientist Al Gore. How can you claim that there is “consensus”?

No they don’t…show me facts to back this up….you can’t do it. Some, not many, scientists disagree on the causes, but very few flat out deny that we aren’t experiencing some kind of climate change.

2) I do have common sense - speaks for itself

3) I don’t care whether you personally cite Gore - everyone else on your side does and they use his arguments and his fraud of a movie to spread global warming theory

every left-wing person on this site does not quote Al Gore for proof of global warming - I know she is exagerating, but it just isn’t true -

4) There is “overwhelming evidence” that Islamists want to create a caliphate in Iraq and use it as a base of operations to kill every American and Jew on the planet.

— what “overwhelming evidence” - does Buy Danish have national security clearance? How can she know that? Again, lie….

5) I know first hand how important it is to go after “low-level” activity as part of the “broken windows” theory.

“First hand” knowledge requires that she actually did something to correct this problem — her attitude and lack of concern for anyone other than herself and other neo-cons - but if she will explain what she did “first hand” to help eliminate a broken neighborhood in New York, then I’ll recant

6) Let’s see, we have one kook named Eric Rudolph and Islam has 8,000 terror attacks since 9/11.

Try again…one kook? I think not.

7) The point is that Democrats are trying to criminalize politics

how is that exactly? How are Republicans any different? Where do you come up with such ridiculous comments…this point prooves my #2 point…no common sense!

Truthsayer, it’s very sweet to come to her defense…chivalry isn’t dead after all I see…that is, unless you are the same person…and then…ewwwww..that’s just weird

By Political Pigskin

May 3, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

By Paul

May 3, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Talk the Talk 11:48

Another case of “leaders” being oblivious until they get kay’o’d by the voters and they ask “what happened?” Okay, (I sound like a broken record here) Obama called for that in his first book - it made a lot of people pay attention - plus, I think it put him in a stronger political position with the “he sounds different” factor.

Another policy area where the pressure is building is the alternate minimum tax, put in years ago so “rich” would have to pay at least some takes and it was not indexed for inflation. More and more middle-class families are getting pushed into it with terrible tax consequences. Congress has done year-to-year patches, Democrats have called for reform but have gotten themselves trapped with “pay as you go” - there are billions at stake and we all know how politicians like to spend.. er, fund programs… er, help people… er, buy votes. I think people may well say “no more excuses, just get it done.”

By Political Pigskin

May 3, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF US TROOPS IN IRAQ?????

By Paul

May 3, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Political Pigskin 11:52

“What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?]]

To make sure Democrats get elected in ‘08?

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Stillborn - Just as I tought, insults without any kind of refutation with facts. Aristotle would have kicked you right out. There is a natural cycle of global warming and cooling. Any serious student of history would know that, but then you are no serious student of anything, obviously, except crude and lascivious behavior.

By rushncap

May 3, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Just wondering: just how insecure and pathetic are the likes of RW & @@ that they can NEVER let the other side have th last word for the day? Not once. They’re always the last ones to post (RW has been known to post at midnight just to be the last one). God damn they are sad.

By Negativity's Founding Fathers

May 3, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Negative, Left-Tilting War Coverage Is As Unappreciated As It Is Obvious

{{‘I don’t know if its 95% … but there are enough liberals in the old media, not just in ABC, but in old media generally, that it tilts the coverage quite frequently, in many issues, in a liberal direction… . It’s an endemic problem. And again, it’s the reason why for 40 years, conservatives have rightly felt that we did not give them a fair shake.’}}

{{So are the mainstream media running the risk of losing their customers because of their leftward tilt? It sure seems that way. Will things change? Maybe.}}

Who’s the libs Daddy?

Negative=blue

Positive=red

Conservatives are seeing red these days.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Yes lying liar,

Lets take a look at your party: Foley, Haggard, Cho, Tobias, Cunningham, Nay, DeLay, Wolfowitz, Libby, and many more to come.

Only 5 subpoenas so far, 1000 more to go.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Lies by Danish - just as I am not Fuddy or Edwin, not Danish either. You still did not show how anything she said was a lie. Sometimes she uses hyperbole, but she does not lie. There are MANY scientists who disagree about the causes of global warming. That is what she stated. We actually cannot even be sure that it is really happening for another thirty years or so. Global warming and cooling are natural phenomena which have occurred and recurred throughout WRITTEN and geological history.

If you disagree with the lady, then say so. But please don’t call her a liar. That makes you a cad.

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

You are right. There have been natural cycles of global warming and cooling that has in which those cycles were thousands of years in the making. The one we are experiencing now has occured in roughly, give or take, about 50 years. Those earlier cycles were followed by 5 distinct massive extinctions. Call me crazy, but I don’t want to be one of those that become massively extinct.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Mother Earth - get better information. The Earth has been warming since the 1850s when the “Little Ice Age” ended. It ended as SUDDENLY as it STARTED. We went into the Little Ice Age almost overnight, starting round 1300 A.D. We also went through a period of global cooling about the time of the fall of the Roman Empire and came out of it during the 8th century. These are just a few examples. You need to study history and science a little bit more throughly before you make a complete donkey of yourself. By the way, all of the facts that I stated can be easily verified using many reputable sources.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

I meant to say “thoroughly”. Darn I wish this thing had spell check.

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, Your posts have more problems than just your spelling.

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

In Ricky Wingnut Land this is an attack:

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - regarding your 8:42:

I FEEL that it was a stupid move. One that is more in line with a fascist regime.

I THINK you’re being disingenuous for feigning outrage over it because it seems like something Rove and company would pull.

I am quite disappointed in Obama for allowing it to happen.

And this is merely “responding in kind”: By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

blackadder

I am not “feigning outrage” you freaking moron. When are you going to get reading comprehension skills that are above a third grader?

Then lil Ricky accuses me of whining. Sorry Ricky you have the whinibg act all sewn up.

Poor lil Ricky.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Mother Earth - then tell me how all of the FACTS cited in my last post were wrong? Of course, they were not. But if I told you that 2+2=4, you would have a hard time with it. By the way, what is “massively extinct”?

By Political Pigskin

May 3, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Dee Meeshyun! I veel know what dee meeshyun eez! I weesh to buy dee mission!

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

What is the mission of US troops in Iraq?

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF US TROOPS IN IRAQ??????

I’ve never heard a mission for Iraq that Disney didn’t write first. This isn’t the Davey Crocket Show. “Be sure you’re right, then go ahead”.

What was the mission of the guys at the Alamo? They didn’t have a mission either, they were waiting for replacements, for their wounded and lame, but the troops that were comin’ never came, never came, NEVER CAME……twice he charge and do recall, on the fatal third time, Santa Anna reached the wall and he keeled them one unt z’all….now the bugles are silent, and theres rust on each sword, and a small band of soldiers lies asleep in the arms of the lord……..

By Black Danish

May 3, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Da republicens is gon debate tonight. I be gon watch it so I be knowin who ta vote fa. Rudy seem like he good white folks but you never kno. All da peoples on my skreet is republicans and we be real excited ‘bout tonight.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Just breezing through.

“Lies by Buy Danish”,

First of all, do you understand what the difference between an “opinion” and a “fact” is? I think you have difficulty differentiating between the two entirely different concepts.

Now, before I waste my time refuting all your pitifully poor examples (that would be an opinion based on the evidence) let’s take care of numero uno:

{{{By Lies By Danish #1

May 3, 2007 10:49 AM |

These Democrats love taking taxpayer dollars to pay for their pet programs, but God forbid they have to reach into their own pockets, or ample campaign chests.}}

Are you saying that it is a “lie” that Democrats love taking taxpayer dollars to pay for their pet programs?

OR

Is it a “lie” that Obama was too cheap to reach into his campaign chest and pay the guy who set up the my space page for him?

Take your time responding to this and feel free to ask your fellow moonbats for assistance.

Later….

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

[In his testimony before the House Judiciary Committee today, James Comey sent two main messages:

With the exception of Kevin Ryan (who had serious management problems), the USAs who were fired were not only competent, but in several cases, some of the best. If DOJ is, in fact, administering loyalty oaths for Assistant USAs, it would not only be illegal, but would seriously discredit our judicial system. “I don’t know how you’d put that genie back in the bottle,” Comey said.](http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/where-were-at-on-the-usa-attorney-scandal/)

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS - Hopefully not the same one you are one. At least I am highly evolved enough to READ and COMPRHEND what I am reading. Not Edwin or Duddy for the last time. I also tend to disregard certain rather extreme predictions as they are about as reliable as the predictions made by religious fanatics that the Apocolypse is right around the corner.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

TRUTHDUDDYEDWINSAYER

I CAN POSITIVELY GUARANTEE THAT WE ARE NOT ON ANY OF THE SAME LISTS!

AT LEAST YOU GET THAT RIGHT>

By Peter

May 3, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!

By Randy

May 3, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

You’re an embecile just like your librul friends mikey. Bush vetoed the dems from killing our troops.

Budget battle could cost American lives

A timeline emboldens the enemy who are a danger to our troops.

Withholding funds endangers our troops by denying them equipment.

The ball is in the dems court now. They better not foul it. The American people won’t stand for it.

If they fvck it up the wave in ‘07 will see them out the door. Hell yeah!

By The Watcher

May 3, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

READ and COMPRHEND ???

By Buy Danish doesn't have anything else to do

May 3, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish always loves to give the appearance that she is busy or has to go. I guarantee she is sitting right there at her computer all the while waiting for the right moment to strike. The only time she goes away is to feed her ugly face or take a dump.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Tell Congress to Impeach Cheney First

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

The watcher - sorry I am not purrfict like you liruls. READ and COMPREHEND. You folks really are twits.

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, this and the next post are for you.

Lord Help Us, I really don’t need to reread your post to remember that you typed “Regardless of who said what over the last 5 to 10 years…” and interpret that as dismissing democrat’s statements made 5 to 10 years ago and that is exactly what my original post pointed out, so thanks.

As far as your trying to loose me in your nuance it will not happen… I used to be the king of nuance baby. I don’t need to reread one single post of yours to know that you and most people that agree with your Iraq positions absolutely ignore any positive developments. Outside of the Iraqi elections, would you like to tell us a couple of the Iraq successes you have acknowledged? In addition, you demand that I qualify my saying you ignore ANY and ALL good developments after you say; “At SOME POINT, you and others that relentlessly defend against ANY and ALL criticism of this President need to demand competence.” Hmmm? I criticize some and defend others but I guess you know all about me.

As far as demanding competence, politicians don’t devise battle plans they choose Generals to pursue general objectives like; I want this guy and his sons out of power and then I want you to stand up a representative government capable of defending itself. Then the politicians let them try and if performance is unsatisfactory they are replaced, as has been the case.

Then you go on to say I don’t want to get into the Foreign Intelligence and WMD, Aluminum Tubes, etc… I don’t mind if those assessments were wrong because decisions are based on the best intel you have at the time and Saddam never showed me anything leading me to believe his ambitions had changed. Perhaps you would like to share which of Saddam’s actions lead you to be convinced Saddam had relinquished his decades old ambitions?

By getalife

May 3, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

BD is a paid troll that works 8-7 M to F on this blog.

Look at the Israeli protest today.

This is what the American people should be doing.

By Nick Papagiorgio

May 3, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Time Magazine’s list of 100 most influential doesn’t include Bush.—from the democrapunderground no less.

Pretty sad huh?

The libs think Rosie is more powerful than the “biggest nazi terrorist in the world” who also just shoved the pork bill back in their face.

Ha Ha Ha

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, as far as your assertion Iraq has steadily gotten worse, it is very telling of your defeatism. Some areas have been stable, some are improving and some are not. But really, are you surprised that the areas that once received the spoils of Saddam’s tyranny are now upset he is gone and are fighting back, while the areas neglected by Saddam have been relatively stable.

Then you take one man (who I was ticked didn’t become 187 in Fallujah a couple of years ago) and extrapolate him to represent the entire Iraqi Government. One man does not comprise hundreds of representatives? Even so, that is why I think we should definitely be in Iraq till the next elections are held because they will be a more true telling of the political will of the Iraqi people.

Hiding in Pakistan? Last time I checked Al-Qaeda was in the Pushtun Mountain region where they could move freely between three sovereign nations to avoid capture. Has something changed?

Your attempt to relate Iraq with the increase in terrorism around the globe is weak at best. We forced Iraq to do something it refused to do for years and libs run around saying we are setting up permanent bases, exploiting the Middle-East for oil. People say these things without realizing they reinforce the terrorist positions and then try to act like bringing Iraq into compliance is what creates terrorist?

Now, I have honestly attempted to address every one of your opinion based “facts” and mine remain unaddressed. Hence the reason I rarely bother debating here any longer.

Paul I tried to respond to you yesterday but my post did not make it through.

By BuyDanish's John

May 3, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Au contraire!! Buy Danish does have to go from time to time. She has to service her clientle. Those ten dollar bills make her trailer payment and supports her blogging addiction. Anyway. Give her a break. She gives absolutely the best toothless treat that 10 bucks can buy. Buy Danish is a very busy woman. And today is payday for alot of her regulars.

By REALLY REALLY STUPID

May 3, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

””“Then you go on to say I don’t want to get into the Foreign Intelligence and WMD, Aluminum Tubes, etc… I don’t mind if those assessments were wrong because decisions are based on the best intel you have at the time”“”

THE BEST COOKED INTELL

EMERIL INTELL

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

WAS THERE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CANADA EARLIER?

Canadian MP Mike Lake who has called for Bigfoot to be protected under Canada’s species at risk act

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Scooter you are right. The level of discourse here really is rather low. It’s sad.

By jr

May 3, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

I say just Tactical NUKE Iran and Iraq and be done with it. In the long run fewer innocents will be killed than this stupid war continuing adnausem.

By DawgBite

May 3, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Scooter, read Patrick J. Buchanan’s book, ‘Where the Right Went Wrong’. Check HIS facts and then tell him that he enables terrorists. It’s idiots like you that ultimately enable terrorists by giving them exactly the stage that they needed to act out on.

By Peter

May 3, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Since there is no funding without legislation is there anyway to bring the troops home now (before the money runs out)?

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadical May 3, 2007 10:15 AM 5 Reasons the GOP Faces an Uphill Climb in ‘08 It’s mostly about Iraq- One issue dominates the national agenda: Iraq}}}

Spammie: I marked this day on my calender and here I sit in stunned silence.

You are right about something.

I didn’t think it was possible.

Only problem is, the scenario you give is only good if America loses in Iraq.

And since there ain’t no freaking way that will ever happen, hail to the chief, which ever Republican survives.

USAUSAUSAUSAUSA.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Dawgbite - Patrick Buchanan is a kook that long ago was disowned by the right. It is a matter of where he went wrong. The man is an out and out fascist, a timid nationalist who adopted nutty 19th century ideals as his own including but not limited to Social Darwinism, blatant anti-semitism, Protectionism, and Isolationism. If he weren’t a Catholic I imagine he would also be for Prohibition. Buchanan hasn’t been right about anything since the end of the Reagan administration. If you want to cast your lot with such a crazed nut, then feel free. You will be in good company on the fringes of American politics. However, I guess that all that you and your kind care about is that he disagrees with Bush. I guess you will be touting the virtues of Fidel Castro next?

By DawgBite

May 3, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

LuckoDumb, uh I mean dull, sooner or later someone will do “peace with honor” a la Nixon, and call it victory. So in a way you are right. That is how we will “win” in Iraq. The only way.

By Hey Moron

May 3, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

One can debate all day long about whether there has been at least one thing that has gone right in the Iraq War. I sure you could find as many as 2. I am also sure that any idiot could point to many many things that we were told would happen that haven’t and/or things that went completely unanticiapted by our leaders. That being said the real debate on Iraq should be:

1) Was it a good idea to invade a country which had never attacked us when we had options short of war to contain whatever threat there was or wasn’t? As you may know, Colin Powell said 7 months before 9/11 that Saddam was contained, not a threat to its neighbors and that the sanctions regime was working.

2) Should we ask our military to police a sectarian conflict after all of the goals of the invasion have been achevied? The war authorization did not authorize anything we have done militarily since Saddam was captured and a Government established.

3) Is it even possible to ensure a “victory” in this conflict? As I see it, victory is leaving behind a democratic government that can defend itself from enemies both internal and external. If we left now there would be horrible blood shed. If we left in two months there would be horrible blood shed. If we left 2 years from now there will be horrible bloodshed. I think you get the point. No one can tell me that a soldier who dies today, tomorrow or next week has done anything but help this administration pass the buckof this disaster off to the next president. The end is inevitable. After a substantial battle for Iraq by the Iraqis the victor will take the spoils of Iraq and the losers will die or live under the tyranny of the victor. The only game left is who will take the blame here at home.

4) Would you die for Iraqi democracy? I know I wouldn’t and I know that when the soldiers signed up they did so to protect America not Iraqis from each other.

While I hate that we have opened up this can of worms that has in total been more horrific for the Iraqis than Saddam there isn’t much we can do to make up for that. We should at any point in time act in our own interests. Our intersts were best protected befor ethe war by not having a war. Now that we have made the mistake, the right thing to do for America is to bring our Army home and get it ready for the battles ahead as there will be many I am afraid. Unfortunatly, it is curre

By bon scott

May 3, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

First, my thanks to “Lies by Buy Danish” for helping to expose her hysterical paranoia and eagerness to expose anything that doesn’t have the full endorsement of Ann Coulter as a “socialist, anti-American lie”

Reaching back a bit, another lever headed blogger nails it:

[By reebok - May 3, 2007 11:01 AM - Bush’s “strategery” has become clear…hang on until his reign of error is over and leave the mess for someone else to clean up. In the meantime, keep referring to Iraqis as ‘terrorists’ with the implication being that we are currently battling terrorists on their turf to keep them off ours…while actually all we’re doing is referreeing (sp?) a civil war)[http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2007/05/03/presidential_po.html#comment-1209109)

And doing a terrible job of it, I might add.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

[A Veto Inked in Blood](http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050207J.shtml0

By DawgBite

May 3, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Pat Buchanan’s conservative credentials are impeccable. It is the neo-cons that infest the Bush administration that have no conservative ideals. And mentally deficient slow learners like you are the only folks left dumb enough to buy the goods they sell you.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

A Veto Inked in Blood

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

MAYBE IF GUYS IN SUITS GET IT SOMETHING WILL BE DONE

U.S. diplomats returning from Iraq with post-traumatic stress disorder

OOPS! NOPE! PREZNIT VETOED FUNDING

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

{{{By DawgBiter May 3, 2007 1:02 PM LuckoDumb, uh I mean dull, sooner or later someone will do “peace with honor” a la Nixon, and call it victory. So in a way you are right. That is how we will “win” in Iraq. The only way.}}}

Dawgbiter: Right now it looks like the democrats in Congress are going to be the ones surrendering with honor, and that’s only because Bush won’t kick them in their sniveling Coward as-ses.

I’d like to know which terrorist organization you think we’re going to surrender to, do they have a chief suicide bomber, someone who can dictate terms?

Oh, I forgot, that Bin Laden dude, hiding in the cave all these years, too sceered to show his face.

He sends idiots like you out to blow themselves up.

He would never do that, he’s got no balls.

Cowards.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

DawgBite - You really should not throw stones in that glass house in which you live. I know not ONE true conservative - George Will, William Buckley or Newt Gingrich who would even share a stage with that twit. He is no more a conservative than Bill Clinton is a monk. He eschews free trade. He wants unlimited protection for American industry and labor, damn the inefficiency. He is an isolationist in the tradition of Senator Borah and Charles Lindbergh. He is also a racist and a class-warfare advocate in the tradition of Huey Long. He is a Populist nut through and through. I don’t know how you define conservatism, but by any sane definition, he is NOT one. He is also a defeatist. He is one of these nuts who thinks there is some kind of virtue in always being on the losing side. He’s rather like Uncle Fester.

By bon scott

May 3, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

With age comes wisdom. Except in cases of people with sociopathic defects like Bush, Cheney & Co. It also makes them terrible liars who couldn’t cover their butts with a circus tent.

Let’s heaar from a sensible Democrat:

President Bush is running out of time for his war policy in Iraq, with even leaders of his own party ready to jump ship, Democratic Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware said Wednesday in San Francisco.

{{{“Republican support is going to evaporate this fall unless there’s a marked change in outcome or marked change in policy on the ground in Iraq,” said Biden, an underdog candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.}}}

Andy, my poor, misguided and not too bright fellow American, you’re gonna eat those words “You’re gona hate ‘08” in about 17 months. Personally, I can’t wait.

By Neo-ConArtist

May 3, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Get yer popcorn ready for tonight’s Republiscum debate on MSNBC. Should be hilarious!

By getalife

May 3, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Nick Papagiorgio,

Paisan,

Fahgetaboudit.

Not sad, pathetic.

w is a pathetic loser who does not have the balls to speak in front of the real American people.

Wake up gumba or are you just an Italian with no brain.

By Randy

May 3, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer @ 10:54 neglected to add the Pelosiwitch to his entourage of dem bloodsuckers.

How does it feel to be a librul union moron who gets screwed by the limowitch you vote for?

Hell yeah! You thumb-up-your-azz libruls like it don’t you?

You libs make me want to hurl.

When you hurl your brains end up in a barf bag.

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Scooter, there are so many errors in your post I do not know where to start…

I would blame this on obfuscation, but in your case it appears to be simple ignorance.

First of all Mogtada al Sadr has probably never been to Fallujah (read up on Sunni vs. Shia areas).

Second, he along with 30 or more elected officials control a major voting bloc in the Iraqi gov’t along with a number of ministries. It is a fact…

Iran exerts a great degree of influence over the aforementioned al Sadr and his loyalists. Additionally, a large number of members of parliament and the officers of a number of ministries lived in exile in Iran through much of Saddams reign.

Iraq HAS gotten worse. You cannot be a logical person if you cannot look at the casualties in the first year of the war, the second, third, and fourth and NOT see a deteriorating situation. To ignore this fact is an admission of ignorance on your part.

You said, ‘We forced Iraq to do something it refused to do for years…’ Just who and what the heck are you talking about!!

Lastly, the areas in Pakistan most intelligence points to as being the current location of OBL and Al Qaeda/Taliban IS OFF LIMITS to the US. The Pakistani gov’t has agreed to leave them alone and does not allow our troops in the area. That is THE DEFINITION of a SAFE HAVEN and again, it is a FACT.

Now, YOUR turn.

Moqtada al Sadr IS a Terrorist…

The Iraqi gov’t is comprised of al Sadr and dozens of his loyalists…

The Iranian gov’t is the World’s worst state sponsor of terrorism and exerts an enormous amount of influence over the Iraqi govt…

Our troops are dying to solidify an Iraqi gov’t that is comprised of terrorists and is influenced by the worlds worst sponsor of terrorism…

Paksitan is providing safe haven to Al Qaeda…

By STILL STUPID AFTER ALL THERE YEARS

May 3, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

I’d like to know which terrorist organization you think we’re going to surrender to, do they have a chief suicide bomber, someone who can dictate terms?

ITS THE SAME BUNCH BUSHIES THINK WILL SURRENDER TO US WHEN EVENTUALLY THEY FIND A LIARS WAY TO DECLARE VICTORY

BET YOU THOUGHT ID SAY MISSIOM ACCOMPLISHED

BUT THAT”S BEEN DONE TO DEATH

3354 DEATHS

By DawgBite

May 3, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Who said anything about “surrender” LuckoDumb? Just declaring “peace with honor” and going to the house. That is exactly what is going to happen. And by the way LuckoStupido. You and that Virginia Tech guy share the same psychiatric profile.

By Las Vegas

May 3, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Anyone know the odds that Buy Danish resembles Mimi from the Drew Carey Show?

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Dawg Bite, Pat Buchanan is entitled to his opinion, as are you, as am I. I’m sure there are books of differing opinions I could tell you to read, but I don’t. What do you think of What Usama himself wrote?

But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge , but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal.

Given the dems “plan” UBL can make Iraq America’s greatest humiliation and use it as the next rallying cry.

You must think letting Saddam continue in his corruption of the OFF Program, in order to continue pursuit of his ambitions, was the best choice. I do not. I am glad that we know, with one hundred percent certainty, that Saddam will never pursue his ambitions again.

Hey Moron, do you really think I would respond to such a moniker? Well, I will respond to one part moron. When Colin Powell - the same guy who encouraged Bush senior to leave the Kurds hanging after promising them air support - said Saddam was contained, did he know Saddam was selling oil vouchers to veto carrying members of the UN Security Council? Because, that doesn’t seem like the action of a contained man.

One more thing, seeing as how I tried to join the Marine Corps twice to go fight for Iraqi Freedom, I would have to say yes I would die for it. I will just say past injuries prevented my acceptance. You seem firm in your convictions, is that the moniker you are going to use to defend them from now on, or will you change it?

By ROUNDY

May 3, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

“”You libs make me want to hurl. When you hurl your brains end up in a barf bag.”“

I’ll offer the finger to go down his throat!

All he needs is a very, very small bag.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

The oil law halted in Iraq

Not to worry, they will get to it after their summer vacation.

Geez.

Have you seen the Israeli protest?

They are setting us a fine example for protesting failed leadership.

By DawgBite

May 3, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Scooter, for once you are right about something. I 100% agree that the line in the sand should have been drawn in Somalia. However Scooter, bin Laden’s sole objective on 9/11 was to draw us into another humiliating debacle. And guess what? He did.

By Reno

May 3, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Mimi in tennis panties..EEE GAD! I’d rather poke my own eyes out!

By Randy

May 3, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

ROUNDY, Oral manipulation is your thing not mine moron.

Keep your finger cause I know where it’s been azzhole.

But since you brought it up with your post I’m hurling as you type loser.

By ROUNDY

May 3, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Randy,

That’s right you prefer it manual.

You’re just another bulemic neocon.

Binge and SURGE!!

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Boehner: Protecting People Against Hate Crimes ‘Takes Us Down A Path That Is Very Scary’

ANOTHER REAL NICE COMPASSIONATE GUY

By Hey Moron

May 3, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

As for your willingness to die for Iraqi’s I suppose it could be argued that it is a commendable individual choice. However, that is not a choice that ought to be hoisted upon those who only wish to fight for their own country. You may want to feed starving kids in Calcutta, but don’t ask for my tax dollars to fund it or for military support. There are a lot of evils in the world. Look at China. The whole system is a disgrace to human dignity, but we ain’t picking a fight there. Quite to the contrary we are profiting from that repressive system. It may be immoral, but it is simply in our interest to have them as a trading partner.

As for the moniker, I think it is generally appropriate for several posters on this blog who are more pro-Bush than pro-American. If you feel it doesn’t apply to you then ignore it.

As for your denegration of Mr. Powell I would simply point out that Mr. Powell was hired on as Sec. of State by Bush and was speaking for the administration when he made those statements. Further there was no effort to distance the White House from those statements at the time. The truth is that Mr. Powell, whether he was right or wrong on other issues, was absolutlely correct in Feb. 2001 that Saddam was not a threat except to his own people. As far as the oil for food scandal, while it may be regrettable, it was no cause for war.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Scooter - you were right about everything, but trying to convince these Hate-America-Firsters is like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands. If you counter with unrefutable facts, as I did with Mother Nature they eithe sputter of just drop off. Again, great blog today (on your part).

By LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

May 3, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

””“”Hate-America-Firsters”“”“

It’s LOVE THE CONSTITUTION ALWAYS-ERS

you silly fuddy duddy!

By Liberals want to starve poor people to death

May 3, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Here’s one for all of you compassionate left-wingnuts:

Flatulence Threat

Monday we told you that the European Union considers flatulence from cows and sheep to be a grave threat to the planet because of its contribution to global warming. Now the U.N.’s climate change panel says rice farming is a main cause of rising methane emissions.

A molecule of methane is 21-times more potent than a molecule of carbon dioxide as a heat trapping gas. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says that while carbon dioxide represents 70 percent of the warming potential in the atmosphere — methane is at 23 percent and rising.

But more than two billion people rely on rice as a dietary staple — and one of the authors of the U.N. report acknowledges that people in the developing world have to think about food production before they worry about climate mitigation.

By LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

May 3, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

“Liberals want to starve poor people to death”

BIG FAT LIE

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

If you loved the constitution as you say you do you would not love an activist court (Roe v. Wade) nor would you try to hijack the President’s authority as Commander-in-Chief as you so readily do. The constitution contains more than just the first, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eight and nineth amendments. It also contains articles I, II and III. You folks also conveniently forget the 2nd and 10th amendments. You also don’t mind eviscerating the first amendment with rot like McCain-Feingold. Please don’t lecture a real Patriot on the United States Constitution. You only believe in parts of it. I believe in the WHOLE thing, and what I disagree with I will try to amend by the process set forth in that very document. You folks just do it by judicial fiat.

By Randy

May 3, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

ROUNDY @ 1:43, I’m beginning to think that you’re wanking off my words so I’ll leave you to whatever the fvck it is you’re doing.

Pull the shades down. School will be out soon.

Loser.

By georgia 74

May 3, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Condi’s talking to Syria now, guess Nacy Pelosi had to show her and sir dubya the right way to do something.

By Liberals want to starve poor people to death

May 3, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Liar - if your policies (those set forth by the lying hypocrite Albert Aaron Gore, Jr.) are followed, then that is exactly what will happen. If you also follow his logic, all living creatures who flatulate will have to be terminated as well.

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, Some of us have jobs which require us to go to meetings. I guess you wouldn’t understand that loser.

Yes, you got me on “massively extinct” when I meant to say “mass extinction.” I’m dyslexic like that sometimes. You are a clever one, Truthsayer. You really got me. You even know that 2+2=4. I’m impressed.

However, your response to mine was like comparing apples and oranges, not to mention incoherent.

Look, I really do not care if you believe in global warming or not, I do not care if you think it is some paranoid liberal conspiracy made up to ruin the economy of the United States. The fact of the matter is that most scientists, not to mention every other civilized country in the world except for Australia who are members of the Kyota Protocol disagree with you. I’ll take my chances with the scientists and the rest of the world (except those damned Aussies down under).

By ROUNDY

May 3, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Wank? Wait let me check….

Nope.

you’re the wanker.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Mother Earth - you are the one who is paranoid. I also have the day off. I NEVER said that I do not believe that global warming is happening or that it is some kind of liberal conspiracy. You are just too stupid for words to even make such a remark. You did not read or comprehend ONE thing that I said and instead came back as insulting and nasty. As I said, you made a donkey of yourself and you just did it again. Global warming is part of a natural cycle. The Earth was much warmer in the 11th century than it is today. Grapes grew in England. Butternut plants grew in Newfoundland. Greenland was GREEN. The sea levels were much higher than they are today. These are all facts. I was making the point, again, that this is a natural cycle. On the contrary, you think that global warming is some kind of conservative conspiracy. You really should read before you write.

By LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

May 3, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

The difference between you and me is I don’t think “activist” is a dirty word.

I’d much rather have an activist than its opposite - a couch potatoe.

What folks missed the 2nd amendment? Don’t tell me you’re one of those patsie’s that think all liberals are out to get your guns? WRONG! LIE!

And the 10th? I pretty sure you may have heard the activist phrase “Power to the People”.

By LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

May 3, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Boy, the last 28% really is terribly afraid of Al Gore.

Good, Good. Keep it up.

Just the way we like it!

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

ANYBODY WONDER WHY THEY LIED TO US TO START?

U.S. military: Masri not dead

WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN TRYING TO HIDE THIS WEEK

By Paul

May 3, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Goldie

“Send the nation off to war” has a nice ring about it, but this is a nation where people go nuts over the idea or raising the gas tax by 50 cents - as more than a few politicians have found for so proposing.

When half the Democratic candidates (don’t know about the Republicans - maybe Chris Mathews will ask the question tonight) don’t think we’re at war it’s an even harder sell.

I’ve read here about people who do service at VA hospitals, rehab centers, organize or take part in letter and sundry goods campaigns for troops in the Middle East. I think that’s about as far as it’s going to get for a while. Some concrete good does come from those actions.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Wow, the trolls are doing some wanking today.

Wonder why?

More rewarding failure

Wrong vs right people.

Wrong vs right.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Liar - in any representative democracy JUDICIAL activist is most definetely a dirty word because judges are not elected and they are not supposed to make law. You obviously do not believe in the democratic process. Sorry. You also don’t believe in the 10th amendment because the courts have long disregarded it and those rights reserved to the states and to the people have just disappeared.

By N-GA

May 3, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You may (or may not) know that I have used this blog to express my views on using the draft to reduce the number of deployments to the middle east that our troops are experiencing. Simply put, I would like to see the draft re-instated…perhaps even require 2 years of government service of all citizens.

I felt this way before the last election, and I feel that way now. And I don’t believe the comments that drafted troops aren’t reliable (not suggesting that you ever said that). There are volunteer troops who are bad apples just like there are in the draftee ranks.

I suspect that Americans would become much more vocal about our interventionist/pre-emptive policies. Your thoughts?

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Like I said Truthsayer, I’ll take my chances with the scientific community and the rest of the world. I comprehended what you said, as most of your posts, as incoherent blabber. Keep your head in the sand, that’s okay.

When did I ever say global warming was a “conservative conspiracy?” See, you just make stuff up. At least I admit to being dyslexic, you just make stuff up.

It may be part of a “natural cycle” as you say, but we are definitely speeding that cycle up by destroying it with CO2 emissions. We also have a few more BILLION people on this planet than we did in medieval times who are suffering real consequences because of climate change which will only get worse if we don’t change the way we live.

You aren’t fooling anyone either with “just having the day off. Do yourself a favor and get out and see more of the world!

By SERGEANT HULKA

May 3, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

“And I don’t believe the comments that drafted troops aren’t reliable”

DRAFT GOLDIE NOW!!

AND GETALIFE TOO!!

By LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

May 3, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

WRONG TRUTHDUDDY….

they are not making law you twit

they are interpreting it, that is their job.

you may not like how they do it

trust me, we don’t like how they do it sometimes either.

I don’t believe in the 10th amendment because of something somebody else does? Silly, Nonsensical statement.

Sounds to me like you are the non-believer.

By Bill Murray

May 3, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

I suspect Sgt. Hulka ain’t a real army guy.

5 deferrments?

champagne squad?

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, I’m glad you figured out where to start and you are right I should have typed Sadr City. Accept my apologies, but please realize that many questions I asked of you ^^^^^^ still remain unanswered. Like, what were the things that led you to believe Saddam had relinquished his decades old ambitions? But, there are plenty of others you have nuanced right on by.

When you say Iraq’s Government is comprised of terrorist and is influenced by Iran, I think it would be more accurately worded as follows: Muqtada Al Sadr (sp) is a terrorist and is heavily influenced by Iran. Sadr also controls one of the voting blocs that comprise the Iraqi Government and this causes me concern. While that statement is much less sensational it is more accurate.

I don’t know why I can’t say some areas of Iraq have gotten worse while some have gotten better.

We forced Saddam to live up to the Burden of Proof the UN placed on him in 1991 and he continually violated and deceived for twelve years. That is what I meant.

You know what, since you have nuanced past such a large percentage of my points and focused only on the ones of your choosing, I choose to wait for you to address my points. You could start with my first one of the day and work your way down from there.

Hey Moron, I am willing to die for Iraq’s freedom because we are fighting an ideology that respects no borders and has many faces. I am of the opinion that ideology festers in regions ruled by tyrants and thugs who create a sense of hopelessness and despair amongst their subjects, aka the larger Middle-East. To replace the tyrants and thugs, who create the hopelessness and despair, with representative governments symbolizing human freedom will dry up the pool of future suicide bombers in the long term.

We wouldn’t have known about the OFF scandal had we not gone to war. My point was that Saddam’s willingness to corrupt the program does not indicate he was contained as Powell asserted. Does the fact that Saddam exerted the time and energy to corrupt the OFF program lead you to believe he was contained and cleansed of his ambitions?

You all have fun!

By Paul

May 3, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Hello again.

I do remember your positions and points on a draft. I’m not that big a fan - even universal (nonmilitary) service. For most military, most of the first year is training - basic, on to the first-level tech school, in which technical fields (Air Force, Navy, some Army & Marines) can last nine months. Then it’s on to the first assignment, where people embark upon upgrade training. That’s not to say they aren’t available for duty - they are - just that the skill sets are pretty rudimentary and they take a lot of supervision and oversight. Maybe it’s not as big an issue with ground forces, but we have only so many of those.

Another side impact is the growth of the career force with the addition of more low-level cadre - regardless of their length of service. It’s a ripple effect. For example, expand the size of say, a a cav unit. That means more hardware (for every n troops, x troopcarriers, y assault vehicles are required). Now you have manpower to add to maintenance. Finance, supply, military police all expand to handle the increased numbers of troops. On it goes. That’s not a reason to not do a draft - just that for the entire male/female population 18-22 (or whatever) we will end up hiring tens of thousands more career military, civilians or contractors. That’s more than a few bucks.

As far as hindering more intervention - with or without a draft, my gut feeling is we’re done with groundpounders in the Middle East for more than a few years. Cruise missiles and such are still a likelihood, though.

You know, we already spend more on defense than, what, the rest of the world combined? To keep pushing that up - without reductions in other parts of DoD - just doesn’t seem like something that will happen. I said to someone last week that it’s not always a function of available dollars, as this country spends whatever it wants. But there is a “guns vs butter” reality. And with the themes for health care, medicare/medicaid reform, paygo, I just don’t think the public want to put the dollars down.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

Mother Earth - what I do with my time is my business. But unfortunately, busy-body do-badders like you think that it is your duty to dictate to the rest of us how we should live and what our life-styles should be, as long as you can buy your fictional off-sets and continue to emit “greenhouse” gasses. If you want to believe that we as human beings are more powerful than nature and that we can really effect a change in the climate, then you are truly delusional. One volcanic erruption causes more “damage” to the atmosphere than all of the carbon emisions produced by mankind in all of history. If you want to put your faith in a bunch of UN-salaried pseudo-scientists and sociologists then you are welcome to. I am not disputing a gradual warming of the planet over the last 150+ years. I am disputing that man has caused it or that we can really do anything about it other than adjust. My arguments have been coherent, on point and cogent. You have replied with complete nonsense and nonsequitors. You were the one who made the accusation about me believing in some kind of liberal conspiracy. I just pointed out that the way you talk you think it is a conservative one - that we mean old bad capitalists caused it.

By the way, not one nation that signed the Kyoto Protocols has made even a baby step toward implementing that nonsense.

Go back to work Mother Earth and do your job as incompetently as any liberal knows how. I bet you do a good job for the Post Office!

By getalife

May 3, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

Well Sarge,

I can shoot with my right hand but doubt they will draft me. LOL.

I think the two year service is a great idea.

They do it in Israel.

Of course, you wull need good leadership to win a war and both countries are far froom that.

Kudos to the Israeli people for getting out and protesting their failed leadership.

Olmert has a zero approval rating. I guess they do not have ignorant, gullible wingnuts in Israel.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

I’m stopping by briefly, but can’t find anything from “Lies By Danish” to back up his/her #1 attempt to substantiate his claims that I am a liar. Nothing from Georgia 74 either.

All I see are a bunch of vulgar jackasses’ and Sybil Bon Scottie who congratulates “Lies By Danish” but doesn’t actually substantiate a single thing he/she said.

For all I know “Lies By Danish” is just another of Bon Finchies’ many “personalities” and he is patting himself on the back - as has been his habit in the past.

Before I run out again -

SNAKE,

Read this very slowly:

I. Did. Not. Feign. Outrage.

PERIOD.

If you want to see what outRAGE looks like, go here.

By vulgar jackasses’

May 3, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

You are just one more of us Buy Danish.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

WHAT A GREAT BUNCH OF GUYS

Senior VA Officials Receive Large Bonuses

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Interior Dept. Official Resigns Ahead of Hearing

WHATS HE SCARED OF I WONDER?

By getalife

May 3, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Never ever vote for gop again:

“Each of Bush’s signature failures — the war in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, Enron and the corporate scandals, failed tax and trade policies, the attempt to privatize Social Security, the posturing around Terri Schiavo and stem cells — can be traced back not simply to the conservative ideology and ideologues that sired them — but to the basic concepts that Reagan championed. The Gipper can’t lead Republican candidates out of the wilderness because, to paraphrase, his conservatism is the problem, not the solution.

Over the last six years, with Bush in the White House, then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay ramrodding the Republican Congress and Karl Rove focused on mobilizing the Republican base, conservatives have largely had their way. Bush pursued the core ideas of each strand of “movement conservatism” largely to catastrophic effect.”

Learn from this mistake Ga.

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, Did I strike a nerve? By implying you are an unemployed loser, did that bother you? You should have tougher skin than that.

“Nonsequitor”? Is that a word? I just looked it up and it’s not a word. What is a “fictional off-set” that I’m supposed to go off and buy. See you do make stuff up.

“UN-salaried scientists and sociologists?” The scientists who study this (and, I should say, know a lot more about this than you) aren’t unemployed losers like you, my friend.

“You were the one who made the accusation about me believing in some kind of liberal conspiracy. I just pointed out that the way you talk you think it is a conservative one” — The way I talk? What are you talking about? See you are inconherent and make stuff up.

No, I certainly do NOT think the issues of global warming are a conservative conspiracy because I know that you neo-cons care nothing about the environment. You are just waiting on the raputre to happen and be damned about the planet. No, Truthsayer, you are wrong, I absolutely do not think this is a conservative conspiracy.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

Oops, forgot to deal with the shouter.

{{{By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

ANYBODY WONDER WHY THEY LIED TO US TO START?

U.S. military: Masri not dead

WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN TRYING TO HIDE THIS WEEK}}}

Who is “they”? The media? Or are you b!tching that the military took too long to gather all the evidence?

I’m still waiting for your “civics” lesson by the way, from a more reliable source than Romper Room.

C-YA.

By HERE IS THE REAL OUTRAGE

May 3, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Honor the Fallen
The following fatalities were identified by the DoD on 5/01:

Staff Sgt. Jay E. Martin, Sgt. Alexander J. Funcheon, Pfc. Brian A. Botello, Sgt. Norman L. Tollett, Sgt. Glenn D. Hicks Jr., Pfc. Jay-D H. Ornsby-Adkins, Pvt. Cole E. Spencer

Official DoD Count of Troops Killed in Iraq: 3344 Troops Killed in Afghanistan: 380 Wounded in Action: 26096 Learn more about casualties.

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Scooter, you are a hopelessly ignorant fool…

You accused me of ‘nuancing’ past your ‘points,’ like…

‘what were the things that led you to believe Saddam had relinquished his decades old ambitions?’

Never said it, stupid…In fact, Saddam no doubt was looking for any and every opportunity to reconstitute his weapons programs. only problem was…the sanctions/inspections WORKED! A focused effort by Bush to enforce the inspections would have possibly led to war. Hopefully with more international support. Enforcement of the inspections would have exposed Saddams’ impotence.

Instead Bush chose war…

The war was poorly planned, incompetently executed and thousands upon thousands of innocent women, children, servicemen, servicewomen, etc. died horrible deaths as a result.

And, the carnage continues…

You just admitted that the Iraqi gov’t is comprised of terrorists.

NOW, take that point alone…

Are you willing (as you say in your last post) to die to help an Iraqi gov’t that is comprised of terrorists and aligned with Iran solidify its power???

That is sad…

Oh and here is one of my questions you conveniently forgot…

Do you think the Bush Admninistration should honor the safe havens that Pakistan has established for Al Qaeda and the Taliban?

I anxiously await your next rant…

By getalife

May 3, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Quit lying, you never left.

Geez.

By Truthsayer

May 3, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Liar - no you do not like it when the Court actually upholds the law - like the recent decision upholding the law outlawing partial birth abortion. You on the other hand applaud decisions like Abbington School District that strike down 200 years of law and tradition. You also applaud decisions like Baker v. Carr which fly in the face of the 10th Amendment. I know that you think that you know all there is to know about the law and the Constitution, but what you know would fit in a thimble. What you don’t know would fill the third floor of the New York Public Library.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

NO DEARIE, I LIKE THE MILITARY, I SUPPRT THE MILITARY. IT”S IS AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE 1/20/01, AN ADMISITRAION ISSUE. BUT NICE TRY AT A DODGE THERE GIRLIE>

IM STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO LEARN WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNED IN THE 4TH GRADE.

By N-GA

May 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Paul,

A well-thought-out draft might have ancillary benefits. If a draftee is tested, scores well, and is offered training as an MRI/CT technician in exchange for an extended commitment, there is benefit for the many.

If the government took the re-enlistment bonus program and started it at the front end in basic training and/or OCS, then there could be weighted service extensions beyond the initial 2-year commitment for training in specific fields (IT, dentistry, nursing, etc.).

It still costs money, but we might be able to offset the cost using funds from Peace Corps, federal Job Training programs, the GI Bill, Bootstrap programs, etc. Government service could also include the Bureau of Land Management, EPA, the US Forest Service, etc……just thinking outloud.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

THIS COULD BE GOOD

NYT chooses pre-war skeptic as public editor

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, Oh, I forgot - you were obviously trying to insult me by insinuating that I work at the Post Office. Are you trying to say that United States Postal Workers, who are federal employees, are somehow subserviate to people like yourself? Truthsayer, you are so unpatriotic and so unAmerican. Shame on you!

Our federal postal employees are the finest in the world! They deliver mail through rain, sleet, snow, ice, and global warming! Shame on you, Truthsayer, shame on you!

George Bush would not approve of your comments.

By LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

May 3, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

TRUTHEDWINSAYER

You know so very much. You are a very smart man. We hang on your ever word. You even know what’s in the heart of each and everyone of us who posts here.

You use your “sayer-duddy” powers to read the thoughts in our heads.

Everytime one of us liberal (MAJORITY) has an idea, you and only you understand the true meaning.

When we say war is bad, you man-of-all-wisdom, you know what we are really thinking.

When we say we believe in the constitution, you all-knowing-human, tell us what we really believe.

Well, Fuddy Duddy, Edwin Williams, Truthsayer, put on your thinking cap (you know the one with the propeller) and tell us what we all are really thinking about you now.

No need to wait for the Rapture…you and the other 20 something percent have already been left behind.

Poor Edwin.

By IN THE NEWS

May 3, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

THE REAL REPUBLICANS

By Mother Earth

May 3, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE, Truthsayer got mad because I told him to go out and see more of the world and accused me of trying to tell him what to do,

BUT,

He is actually trying to tell you what you are THINKING. Isn’t that sad? Oh, what a hypocrit.

By Blackadder

May 3, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

A couple of Dubya Doozies:

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”

“I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”

So it was important for Clinton to set a date for withdrawal but not Dubya.

What a friggin’ hypocrite.

By Paul

May 3, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Well that is true. Civ Conservation Corps did a lot of good in the 1930s with so many out of work (I’ve driven some of the roads they built - amazing) - but frankly, overall, my preference is to reduce the size of the military, not expand. Getalife (?) had a point about the Israelis, but they’re always on a war footing. World, meet the jihadist next door. I believe the Swiss also do the same - but their active force, if I recall, is more a basic corps to absorb reservists.

Another benefit, though - we have about a 75 percent high school grad rate in this country - break down into subpopulations it’s scary - spotlight would surely go on that once these young people are put thru training. May be a way to do something other than bandaids with education (I heard John Stossell listed state of education as one of his myths - I’m going to have to buy that book).

By Bill

May 3, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

See the blog. See the inferiors Luckodork, RW, Hogman Danish w his clinging cockroaches, Truthslober, Scooter-being-ridden-belly-down, the many more. The Neocons unite. A bastion of crazed insularity and provincialism gathered together at comic-book level. A bunch of ignorant clods, bigoted country bumpkins, their castration complexes firml;y intact. Trying to find something they hate more than they hate themselves and their failed lives and families. Paleoconservitives trying to insult others - but they don’t know how. Such fools always look for bigger fools to admire. The lot of these cretins offer nothing but a breeding ground for pestilence and hate. Iraq is it? Why aren’t you cowards over there battling for the “cause”?? All you “little-wee-wee guys”? You are forever proof that the weak and endangered must chew each other up. A comedy.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

De-Authorizing the illegal occupation by Clinton is the next Dem move.

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

{{{By bonnie scott May 3, 2007 1:18 PM Andy, my poor, misguided and not too bright fellow American, you’re gonna eat those words “You’re gona hate ‘08” in about 17 months. Personally, I can’t wait.}}}

Americans aren’t near as stupid as you candy as-s liberal Cowards think they are.

Surrendering the most powerful nation in the world to a thousand or so cut throat terrorists, who will man up against our cities as soon as we take the pressure off of them, will not go over very well with the majority in the USA.

And we know this.

And we defined you as Cowards, wormy little mealy mouth filth that would abandon women and children to the slaughter, running and hiding from their punk as-s killers.

What courage, what bravery.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

{{{By Bill May 3, 2007 4:03 PM See the blog. See the inferiors Luckodork, RW, Hogman Danish w his clinging cockroaches, Truthslober}}}

Look who’s got some major mental issues^^.

Glad we could help, hehehe.

Anything else I can do to make your life miserable, let me know.

Coward.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Wingnuts all over the world:

{{{French conservative Nicolas Sarkozy extended his lead after a television debate with Socialist rival Segolene Royal and stayed on course for victory in Sunday’s election, opinion polls showed on Thursday.}}}

She was a good looking little dullard, I shall miss her.

But the trend is toward wingnuts.

Iran, Turkey, Syria, Palestine, Canada, all fixing to “nut” up.

Why fight with the Bush Master?

You’ll only lose and look ridiculous, like the democrats in Congress do.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Greg

May 3, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Luckonuts: Run, do not walk, to the nearest psycho ward. Krist but you’re sick! And this is as good as it ever gets for sewer scum like you. Just another twisted, scrotumless hatemonger of the Right. Hitler assuredly wouldn’t have you & your ilk from this blog. You are the wrong stuff for even the old Nazis. All mouth. Sick, sick, sick.

By CAN THIS MAN BE SAVED

May 3, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

LET”S SEE WHAT WEE CAN DO TO MAKE LUCKODUD SOUND HUMAN…

Americans aren’t near as stupid as you candy as-s liberal Cowards think they are.

CORRECTION: 25% OF AMERICANS ARE AS STUPID AS I AM.

Surrendering the most powerful nation in the world to a thousand or so cut throat terrorists, who will man up against our cities as soon as we take the pressure off of them, will not go over very well with the majority in the USA.

CORRECTION:WALKING AWAY FROM A TREMENDOUS MORAL. ETICAL, AND MILTARY MISTAKE WILL MAKE US LOOK LIKE TRULY THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. WILLING TO ADMIT THAT WE CAN MAKE AN ERROR AND THEN FIX IT.

AS GREAT AMERICANS, WE 300 MILLION STRONG ARE NOT AFRAID OF A 1000 OR SO CUT THROAT TERRORISTS. ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY’LL HAVE A PRETTY HARD TIME GETTING A FLIGHT OVER HERE (WATCH LISTS).

And we know this. CORRECTION: NEO CONS DON”T KNOW THEIR HEAD FROM THEIR A$$

And we defined you as Cowards, wormy little mealy mouth filth that would abandon women and children to the slaughter, running and hiding from their punk as-s killers.

CORRECTION: AND WE DEFINE OURSELVES AS COWARDLY MEALY MOUTH WORMY CHICKENHAWKS. HIDING BEHIND ALL THE OTHER FINE STRONG YOUNG REPUBBLICAN SUPPORTERS OF THIS WAR. UNWILLING TO FIGHT TO PROTECT OUR OWN WOMEN AND CHILDREN IF IT MEANS LEAVING OUR COUCH.

What courage, what bravery.

CORRECTION: WHAT COURAGE AND BRAVERY THE LIBERALS ARE SHOWING, STANDING UP TO THE SOCIOPATH IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND HELPING TURN THE TIDE IN THIS NATION

You’re gonna hate 07®.

CORRECTION: 07 IS A GAS. 08 WILL BE GREAT.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

CORRECTION

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SEE HOW EASY THAT WAS!

By getalife

May 3, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Speaker Pelosi:

“Today, the President faces consequences of his own making. This is the seventh supplemental for the war in Iraq. Certainly, somebody was planning something at the White House and could have put, over the years, the funding necessary for this war into the budget. Instead the President did not do that. I don’t know why, maybe they don’t want the American people to see the real cost of this war in dollars. Certainly, we know the price that we have paid more seriously, in lives, in health, in reputation, in the readiness of our military and in probably two trillion dollars now for this war.”

Smack down!

By DULLdull

May 3, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Bush doesn’t understand what our troops need to fight the insurgency. Bush thinks he can veto the insurgency. Bush thinks he can veto Al Queda. VETO! I win!

Why didn’t Barbara Bush exercise an in-vitro veto?

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By getalife

May 3, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

This is what I am talking about

By DULL DULL MY HERO

May 3, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

FAB IDEA….BUT ISN”T TOO LATE TERM?

By DULLdull

May 3, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Oh, you’re gonna love 07

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The New Republican Party - Come for the Tax Breaks- Stay for the bone breaks -

Paid for by Neo-Newts for Neo-Torture Association

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

{{{By MAYBE SOME DAY I’LL BE A MAN May 3, 2007 4:27 PM CORRECTION:WALKING AWAY FROM A TREMENDOUS MORAL. ETICAL, AND MILTARY MISTAKE WILL MAKE US LOOK LIKE TRULY THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. WILLING TO ADMIT THAT WE CAN MAKE AN ERROR AND THEN FIX IT.}}}

Wouldn’t you just love being an Iraqi citizen that has helped America against Al Qaeda the last several years and read something like that^^?

Coward.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

{{{By getalife May 3, 2007 4:28 PM Speaker Pelosi: “Today, the President faces consequences of his own making. This is the seventh supplemental for the war in Iraq. Certainly, somebody was planning something at the White House and could have put, over the years, the funding necessary for this war into the budget. Instead the President did not do that. I don’t know why, maybe they don’t want the American people to see the real cost of this war in dollars. Certainly, we know the price that we have paid more seriously, in lives, in health, in reputation, in the readiness of our military and in probably two trillion dollars now for this war.” Smack down!}}}

Blah, blah, blah:

{{{On January 4, Congressional Democrats re-elected California Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi as minority leader in the House of Representatives. This comes despite that, since assuming her current leadership position two years ago, Pelosi has not only disappointed her liberal San Francisco constituency, but the majority of Democrats nationally as well, through her support for President George W. Bush’s policies toward Iraq. Back in December of 2002, as independent strategic analysts were arguing that the evidence strongly suggested that Iraq had rid itself of its chemical and biological weapons some years earlier, Pelosi categorically declared on NBC’s Meet the Press that “Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There’s no question about that.”}}}

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By 76% Of Iraqi's

May 3, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

….. MAYBE SOME DAY I’LL BE A MAN May 3, 2007 4:27 PM CORRECTION:WALKING AWAY FROM A TREMENDOUS MORAL. ETICAL, AND MILTARY MISTAKE WILL MAKE US LOOK LIKE TRULY THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. WILLING TO ADMIT THAT WE CAN MAKE AN ERROR AND THEN FIX IT.}}}

Wouldn’t you just love being an Iraqi citizen that has helped America against Al Qaeda the last several years and read something like that^^?….

LISTEN CARFULLY

YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THE ANSWER TO THIS MULTIPLE TIMES

YES

THE IRAQI PEOPLE WANT THE US OCCUPIERS OUT>

AND PS

MAYBE SOME DAY YOU”LL BE A MAN? NOPE DON”T THINK SO

By 76% Of Iraqi's

May 3, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

YES

YES

YANKEE GO HOME

YES

YES

By steve-o

May 3, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Actually, I heard Barbara Bush say this about her child-king son and his cronies:

“What I’m hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Washington. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the neoCONs in the Capital here, you know, were misguided anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them.”

By 76% Of Iraqi's

May 3, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

YES DUH

OOPS MEAN

YES DUD

By DULLdull

May 3, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

VETO THIS!

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, this and the next are for you. Maybe Bill would like to chime in?

Just couldn’t maintain that civility could you? Instinctively I say no Bush should not honor the autonomy Pakistan granted the tribal regions, but; I really don’t have enough knowledge of geo-political negotiations surrounding this to make an solid statement.

I really want you to understand there is an enormous difference between saying Iraq’s government is COMPRISED OF TERRORIST (as you assert and is false) and Iraq’s government is PARTIALLY COMPRISED of terrorist (which I agreed to and is true).

You are right you never specifically said Saddam’s intentions had changed, now that you acknowledge Saddam had every intention of reconstituting his WMD Programs, I apologize for my assumption and move on to new assertions.

I, unlike you, cannot say unequivocally that the sanctions worked. I remember we screwed around in the UN Security Council for months having our Resolutions vetoed - probably by some of the same nations that Saddam bribed in the Security Council - and there is no telling what Saddam was doing during that time. I also remember Saddam saying no inspections here, no inspections there, as he had done for years, finally after much prodding from Bush, Saddam granted unfettered access. But still no telling what he was doing while he was stalling. Prior to granting unfettered access Saddam produced that 5000 page disclosure document that even the UN said was not a serious attempt to meet the UN’s demands for disclosure.

Continued below;

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us, you go on to say that had Bush only pursued enforcing the inspections it would have possibly led to war. To this I say; one year of Bush 41 trying to enforce sanctions and eight years of Clinton trying to enforce sanctions ultimately led to the inspectors being kicked out. So, was there something that led you to believe Saddam was going to cooperate in his thirteenth year? Also, Saddam had bribed veto carrying members of the UN Security Council so UN sanctioned war may have never come and a greater coalition may not have formed with heavy hitters like France, Russia and China opposing war – as Saddam “paid” them to do.

And my final portion of the rant points to you assertion that enforced sanctions would have illustrated Saddam’s impotence. Maybe. Then sanctions would have been lifted, inspections would have ceased and Saddam would have reconstituted his WMD programs, as you admitted he wanted to. All of the previous sentence would have fallen into place just as Saddam intended with his corrupting the OFF program.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

There’s an awful lot of SHOUTING going on here. Like this:

By IN THE NEWS May 3, 2007 3:25 PM.NO DEARIE, I LIKE THE MILITARY, I SUPPRT (sic) THE MILITARY. >>>IT”S IS AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE 1/20/01,<<<<(AN ADMISITRAION (sic) ISSUE. BUT NICE TRY AT A DODGE THERE GIRLIE> IM (sic) STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO LEARN WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNED IN THE 4TH GRADE.

Here’s a little advice for ITN - stick to spamming the board without trying to add commentary. You are an incoherent, illiterate juvenile and you’re projecting your failure to substantiate your earlier posts AND to get past elementary school on to me.

By Greg

May 3, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Gaze awhile at the filth Luckodud vomits on this blog. He is EXACTLY the kind of would-be-man who grabs, rapes, and murders little children. So angered and crazed. Pity this blog is anonymous. I’d enjoy hunting down him and a few other freaks here - wherever they may hide.

By DULLdull

May 3, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Barbara Bush! She knows. Why she didn’t warn us is for her to live with. George HW Bush! He knew. If there’s a president who deserves to be called great for decisions made during a war, it’s him. Leave Iraq Intact.

Whatever mess that Bush hands over to the democrats, they’ll do better than Bush with a thousand more divisions ever could. There’s simply nothing to WIN in Iraq…. but sand.

By Midori

May 3, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

General Eaton’s Letter to President Bush on Veto

Today, in your veto message regarding the bipartisan legislation just passed on Operation Iraqi Freedom, you asserted that you so decided because you listen to your commanders on the ground.

Respectfully, as your former commander on the ground, your administration did not listen to our best advice. In fact, a number of my fellow Generals were forced out of their jobs, because they did not tell you what you wanted to hear — most notably General Eric Shinseki, whose foresight regarding troop levels was advice you rejected, at our troops’ peril.

The legislation you vetoed today represented a course of action that is long overdue. This war can no longer be won by the military alone. We must bring to bear the entire array of national power - military, diplomatic and economic. The situation demands a surge in diplomacy, and pressure on the Iraqi government to fix its internal affairs. Further, the Army and Marine Corps are on the verge of breaking - or have been broken already - by the length and intensity of this war. This tempo is not sustainable - and you have failed to grow the ground forces to meet national security needs. We must begin the process of bringing troops home, and repairing and growing our military, if we are ever to have a combat-ready force for the long war on terror ahead of us.

The bill you rejected today sets benchmarks for success that the Iraqis would have to meet, and puts us on a course to redeploy our troops. It stresses the need for sending troops into battle only when they are rested, trained and equipped. In my view, and in the view of many others in the military that I know, that is the best course of action for our security.

As someone who served this nation for decades, I have the utmost respect for the office you hold. However, as a man of conscience, I could not sit idly by as you told the American people today that your veto was based on the recommendations of military men. Your administration ignored the advice of our military’s finest minds before, and I see no evidence that you are listening to them now.

I urge you to reconsider your position, and work with Congress to pass a bill that achieves the goals laid out above.

Respectfully,

By Lord Help Us

May 3, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

The absence of WMD are proof positive that the sanctions/inspections worked. Period.

You can speculate until the cows come home about what might have, would have, could have happened had we taken another course of action other than invading.

You will have a hard time convincing anyone that the planning and execution of the war has been anything but disastrous and incompetent.

Just think for a moment…

Had Bush spent his ‘political capital’ on hounding Al Qaeda, instead of on Iraq…

Do you think the Republicans would have been thrown out last November…

Do you think the Republicans would have been able to push a conservative domestic agenda…

Do you think he would be mired in the mid-30s approval…

Do you think Republicans would be in a better position for ‘08…

It is YOU who should be critical of Bush…He is ruining the party you appear to persistently carry water for.

By Greg

May 3, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Gaze awhile at the filth Luckodud vomits on this blog. He is EXACTLY the kind of would-be-man who grabs, rapes, and murders little children. So angered and crazed. Pity this blog is anonymous. I’d enjoy hunting down him and a few other freaks here - wherever they may hide.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Speaking of “hate crimes”, wtf is this?

{{{By Greg

May 3, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Gaze awhile at the filth Luckodud vomits on this blog. BLAH BLAH BLAH I’d enjoy hunting down him and a few other freaks here - wherever they may hide.}}}

The great thing about catching “Greg” in an act of violence is that we’d also be hauling in “Bill” too.

By RE

May 3, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Saddam was going to bribe other nations to try to remove sanctions. What would you expect him to do, try to prolong the sanctions?

We are getting into a new world here, We are starting to see a new type of capitalism emerge, from China and Russia of all places. It is a more pure form of capitalism than the type we practice, there is no consideration given for the morality or ethics of the countries they deal with. There had been, for a long time a type of monopolistic cartel in place in terms of foriegn aid and development of resources, made up mainly of the US and EU. Because of the monopolistic nature of the arrangement, the US and EU could dictate certain guidelines so far as humanitarian rights, democratic principles… etc. Now with China and the Russia emerging with the capital for development, there will be less restriction on aid being tied to humanitarian or democratic principals.

Capitalism without morality, it is going to be the wave of the future.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Woops, my previous post about “hate crime” legislation didn’t make it through. Let’s try again -

This is one of the things I really like about our President:

Bush Expected to Veto ‘Hate Crimes’ Bill

If only he were this tough on illegal immigration.

As Chuck Colson correctly states in a column entitled “the Thought Police”, {{{Clearly, the intent of this law is not to prevent crime, but to shut down freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of thought. Its passage would strike at the very heart of our democracy.}}}

Source^^^:

www.christianpost.com/article/20070503/27218TheThought_Police.htm

By getalife

May 3, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

That is a good argument but you are conveniently leaving out the reality of Saddam.

He was bluffing and w went all in.

They found him, bat sh-it crazy in a freaking spider hole.

They are all corrupt, it is part of government now and nothing is being done to stop it.

Let it go Scooter, like I let go of the corruption argument.

Lets face reality.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

“WASHINGTON — The House voted Thursday to expand federal hate crime categories to include }}}violent attacks{{{ against gays and people targeted because of gender, acting just hours after the White House threatened a veto.”

Idiot.

By steve-o

May 3, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

What’s wrong with Hate Crime legislation? Everybody, including white folks, would be protected from hate crimes.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife

May 3, 2007 5:47 PM

Lets face reality.}}}

Ha!

You first Getalife, but you’ll have to put down the Doobie and the bottle of Crown to get started.

By Midori

May 3, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Accusations about voter fraud seemed to fly from every direction in Missouri before last fall’s elections. State and national Republicans leaders fretted that dead people might vote or that some live people might vote more than once.

The threat to the integrity of the election was seen as so grave that Bradley Schlozman, the acting chief of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and later the U.S. attorney in Kansas City, twice wielded the power of the federal government to try to protect the balloting. The Republican-controlled Missouri General Assembly also stepped into action.

Now, six months after freshman Missouri Sen. Jim Talent’s defeat handed Democrats control of the U.S. Senate, disclosures in the wake of the firings of eight U.S. attorneys show that that Republican campaign to protect the balloting was not as it appeared. No significant voter fraud was ever proved.

The preoccupation with ballot fraud in Missouri was part of a wider national effort that critics charge was aimed at protecting the Republican majority in Congress by dampening Democratic turnout. That effort included stiffer voter-identification requirements, wholesale purges of names from lists of registered voters and tight policing of liberal get-out-the-vote drives.

Bush administration officials deny those claims. But they’ve gotten traction in recent weeks because three of the U.S. attorneys ousted by the Justice Department charge that they lost their jobs because they failed to prove Republican allegations of voter fraud. They say their inquiries found little evidence to support the claims.

Few have endorsed the strategy of pursuing allegations of voter fraud with more enthusiasm than White House political guru Karl Rove. And nowhere has the plan been more apparent than in Missouri….

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

{{{By Buy Danish May 3, 2007 5:39 PM | Speaking of “hate crimes”, wtf is this? {{{By Greg May 3, 2007 5:32 PM Gaze awhile at the filth Luckodud vomits on this blog. BLAH BLAH BLAH I’d enjoy hunting down him and a few other freaks here - wherever they may hide.}}}}}}

Danish: Notice how good news for America is met by violent outbursts and rage from those on the left?

Al Qaeda doesn’t even get this upset about it.

This has been a horrible, terrible week for the candy as-s sniveling little Cowards, Iran is funding Iraqi reconstruction, Syria is closing their borders keeping the foreign savages out of Anbar, Turkey’s military is fixing to hand the Islamic loonies a free pass to “paradise,” the democrat enemy in Congress has scurried back under their rocks, tails between their legs.

I should probably ease up, I’m sure not helping matters.

Pis-s on that.

You Coward liberals and your beloved Al Qaeda are finished, done, over.

And the Bush Master rules over all.

Cower before him, you sniveling punk as-sses.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By getalife

May 3, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

Oh I get it now.

BD thinks the bill is against her for all of her hate.

No more hate in 08.

No BD, it is against violent attacks and not what you spew.

Geez.

By Midori

May 3, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

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By RE

May 3, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

I am with GWB on the hate crimes bill. If a crime is commited, such as assault or murder, the person responsible should be tried for that crime. I don’t think additional time should be tacked on because of racial or religious considerations. It is divise at it’s base, putting the rights of one group above another, and open to political exploitation.

Consider for a minute, if a white man attacks another white man, is that more or less of a crime than a white man attacking a black man.

Do you think it would be acceptable for a black man who rapes a white woman to have a heavier sentence than a white man who rapes a white woman?

By Midori

May 3, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

VETO ACCOMPLISHED!!

By Hey Moron

May 3, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

Your Wilsonian ambitions for a free, democratic and friendly Middle East is both idealistic and unreasonable. Why of all of the places in the world where there is tyrrany does a group arise that wants to kill us? Why aren’t we being attacked by Cubans or the Chinese? Tyranny isn’t the issue and democracy isn’t the answer. We can’t MAKE them be like us. They will either choose it or not. To try to impose a Jeffersonian Democracy in the broader Middle East is not only impossible it won’t lead to the result you seek.

Bush says that democracies don’t threaten their neighbors. Does he not know that Hitler was popularly elected? Does he not know that Napoleon was elected in France? The Greeks, the inventors of democracy, had a few scrapes in their time as well. The idea that democracy is a panacea for peace is inconsistent with history and reality. Ask the Baathists if a democracy can threaten. I mean you guys have this insane academic theory about the world that has no basis in fact or history and you try the experiment with our kids lives on the line. It is the worst kind of evil. As Justice Brandeis wrote:

“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.”

A more apt description of you and the Bushies can not be found.

By Dull Warblogger

May 3, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it, Luckodull is a cowardly poof.

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By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

It would seem to me that passing a Federal hate crimes law would require a Constitutional Amendment repealing the 14th Amendment.

I guess I shouldn’t have been so tough on Blackadder before I left. I sounded like he was right on the verge of leaving us another suicide note when he came back sobbing about me pointing out what a punk he is.

getalife,

Did you miss me?

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Are they “haters”?

Black churches oppose protection for gays

{{{Representatives of African-American religious groups have asked the US Congress to block a new hate-crimes bill that would cover homophobic offences

They have called on the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers, to block the proposed new law, claiming it would impede their freedom to preach against homosexuality…

“This bill will offer a status for gays, lesbians and transgender people under the equal protection status that can muzzle the black church,” Bishop Harry Jackson, pastor of Hope Christian Church, told the Washington Post.}}}

By John

May 3, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Its time to for little bills that all can agree on; the safer humvees, the money for vets, money for treatment. But no more money to keep the war going.

The war was lost before it was even started by no nothing rethuglicans who thought they could do everything on the cheap.

Its not been cheap, and they dont want to take there lumps for it. They want to blame their failures on everybody else. Its time for Congress to resist the madness of this administration of neo-nazis.

By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Drat! Insert a “thought he” between “I” and “sounded”

By @@

May 3, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

(((By rushncap May 3, 2007 12:00 PM)))

(((Just wondering: just how insecure and pathetic are the likes of RW & @@ that they can NEVER let the other side have th last word for the day? Not once. They’re always the last ones to post (RW has been known to post at midnight just to be the last one). God damn they are sad.)))

rushncap: Add the “inability” to practice “impulse control” to your lack of “coping skills”.

Your last post was at 7:18 last night. That was after I suggested you not “knock unless you want me to answer”.

I’ll tell you what rushncap, I’ll lead by example. I’ll amend my statement.

Don’t bother knocking because I WON’T answer regardless of what ID you post under. Remember what I said “Peek-a-boo”, I see you?

Just think, there was a time when you told everyone that you “respected” some of my viewpoints. When exactly did your opinion change?

Oh yeah, I remember. It was the day I shooed you out from behind my blogskirt when you were trying to hide from R.W. Left you out there all alone and you’ve been snivelling ever since.

My cruise control is on. Let’s see how YOU do?

Will you continue to drive through here like a maniac looking to rev up the RPMs?

Tic tock tic tock….

By getalife

May 3, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

RW,

Nope, you never left.

BD,

I am too drunk and stoned to look into to this bill.

Maybe later.

RE has a good point.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Why hate crime legislation is a Stalinist nightmare:

The nature of “hate crime” legislation is to require that law enforcement officials try to ascertain the specific thoughts and motivations that a perpetrator may have had while committing a violent crime, in order to stiffen the penalty for the underlying offense. Sadly, this hate crime legislation further segregates people into different groups - based on sex, gender identity, minority status, and other often nebulous terms - then seeks to either reward or punish these different groups using different standards. Thus, under this legislation, a violent crime against an individual that is targeted because he or she falls within one of the bill’s protected classes will be investigated, prosecuted, and sentenced more harshly than an identical but “random” violent crime against a pregnant woman or a child, for example.

And as RW alluded to -

{({“Equal justice under law” is one of America’s most firmly embedded legal principles. Our Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal, and the Fourteenth Amendment provides that “no state shall… deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” This bill undermines these bedrock principles of liberty and justice, and takes the blindfold off of lady justice, so she can pick winners and losers.}}}

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I agree that RE has a good point. It is indeed a momentous occasion when I agree with you and RE.

By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Look beside you……BOO!!

So who was I today? The company I’m getting ready to invoice for services that didn’t include blogging would probably like to hear from you.

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Getalife. I doubt Saddam came out of that spider hole in the same mental state as when he went in.

Funny how realities are dependent on humans, their individual focuses, definitions and experiences, etc… huh?

Lord Help Us, I’m not speculating anymore than you were when you said; ‘Saddam no doubt was looking for any and every opportunity to reconstitute his weapons programs… Enforcement of the inspections would have exposed Saddams’ impotence.

If Saddam was exposed as impotent, why would sanctions and inspections have continued?

We all know Saddam corrupted the UN by selling oil vouchers to member states that carried veto power on the UN’s Security Council and could thereby veto any UN authorization for war. Why else would he focus on those specific “member states”?

‘As far as demanding competence, politicians don’t devise battle plans they choose Generals to pursue general objectives like; I want this guy and his sons out of power and then I want you to stand up a representative government capable of defending itself.

By @@

May 3, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Add my name to the list in agreement on the Hate Crime veto.

It was ridiculous from the get-go, but like the good little liberal that I WAS, I kept my mouth shut.

It would have been “politically incorrect” to say anything.

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

{{{On the same day that the House of Representatives failed to override his veto of a bill forcing U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, President Bush got a hang-in-there call from former Gov. Mitt Romney. An adviser to Romney said the presidential hopeful reached out to “commend the president for his veto” and to salute his “principled leadership in the war on terror.”}}}

Bow to the Bush Master gitmo, kneel before him and plead for mercy.

Admit your mistakes!

(I thought you’d like that, you being stoned and all.)

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By RE

May 3, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Can’t have that going on too long.

While I think the Hate crime bill is the wrong thing to do, I do believe that sexuality should be protected as is race and religion from discrimination.

By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Did rushncap really cry about someone answering his questions after he asked them? That’s sniveling the likes of which hasn’t been seen since Blackadder was crying to the AJC staff about being picked on.

rushncap,

What scientific theory are you using to determine that we should answer your questions before you ask them? Granted it wouldn’t be difficult, but it’s bad manners.

By bon scott

May 3, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Luckodull is just a neocon, gay hating, woman hating, Muslim hating, moderate and Democrat hating sociopath whose main outlet for his anger is this blog.

His rambling arrogance and threats remind me of the ones penned by the Virginia Tech gunman before he went postal.

I sincerely hope the AJC never banishes Andy. He might express his outage against real people, instead of merely insulting and threatening the face, nameless bloggers here.

I’m not lovin’ 07, because too many Americans are dying in Iraq for a worthless cause endorsed by a Cro-Mangon President. I prbably won’t like ‘08 much either, as the Persian Gulf disaster contines to chew up Americans like a tree mulcher and the stock and housing bubbles start springing more and more leaks.

I do hold out hope for 11/08, when (the Almighty willing), more sensible and pragmatic people will succeed the brainless war-lovers we’re stuck with now.

Midori…. nice posts. Too bad the knuckle draggers here probably won’t bother reading a word of them.

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

RE,

I knew it was too good to be true.

How do you protect “sexuality” from “discrimination” without violating the first and fourteenth amendments?

By RW-(the original)

May 3, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Why is finchie insulting the good people of the USPS?

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

Bonnie Scott,

Admit it finchie, You are obsessed with Andy and “hate” him with every fiber of your feeble body and brain.

Just to pick out one of your outrageous charges, when has Andy ever made a comment that any sane* person could construe as “woman hating”?

There are a lot of “woman haters” on this blog, but Andy is not one of them.

*that excludes you, so that could be the problem.

By RE

May 3, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

The same anti-discrimination protections for housing and employment extended to people based upon religion, race, and age should also be extended to sexuality.

Easy enough fix.

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

HM, I realize those despots were elected. When the people elect an official, the country as a whole, then answers for those official’s actions. Saddam’s election results got better every election cycle and now the Sunnis are reaping the consequences of there decades of privilege, while the Shiites and Kurds will, and are, realizing real gains.

Bonus is, we don’t ever have to worry about Saddam realizing his intentions and threatening his neighbors. Now, Syria and Iran have some choices to make and we’ll see how that works out if we don’t stay and stand up a government to prevent the formation of a power vacuum. I power vacuum would make Syria and Iran’s choice real easy, you know?

By LuckoDull

May 3, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Danish: Like I said before^^, notice how all good news for America causes the moonbats to lash out violently, in full foaming rage:

{{{Luckodull is just a neocon, gay hating, woman hating, Muslim hating, moderate and Democrat hating sociopath whose main outlet for his anger is this blog.}}}

Sum up what I said, America is going to win the Iraq war and the Middle East will be better for it.

That includes specifically the women, children, gays and everybody else that Islamic religious fanatics INTENTIONALLY target.

It is what any sane normal person should wish for, should hope for, should pray for.

So why such anger from the libs at the very thought?

Define yourself for us, finchie, tell us who you are.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this

{{{By RE

May 3, 2007 7:09 PM |

The same anti-discrimination protections for housing and employment extended to people based upon religion, race, and age should also be extended to sexuality.

Easy enough fix.}}

RE,

How do you “fix” it exactly? Please provide specifics.

I don’t think that there is much “discrimination” occurring to begin with, but what you are asking for is not “easy” and would require the Thought Police to be out in full force with muzzles and handcuffs.

And don’t forget to need to include “global warming alarmists” and “Darwinists” in your legislation while you’re at it.

Skeptics are to be burned at the stake!

By Adam Hammond

May 3, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

First time reader today. Fascinating.

Truthsayer, I suspect that you will simply ignore statements that you don’t like; however, I find your intellectual bullying offensive. You do not, in fact, add anything more to this thread than the other posters here, but you are more capable of rhetorical obfuscation.

I challenge you to think about your motivations for spending this much effort on comments regarding a comic strip. I suspect that you crave the attention - the thing I am now giving you.

Don’t misunderstand me. I don’t want to read your explanation, and rest assured that I will not respond.

In short, you (still Truthsayer) are not more rational or more informative than the other posters here. Really. Your psuedonym is a farce.

By Scooter

May 3, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

Mark me down as thinking hate crime legislation is ridiculous. I’ve always thought, the person who pre-meditates a murder is just as full of hate, as the person who murders someone due to their race, sexuality, habits, etc…

But I must say, the democrats got a mandate to fortify this legislation, and are acting on the “will of the people”, (sarc).

I would like to ask the dems, in ml’s blog, how much interest has my SS money earned? Do you even physically have my SS money? Why couldn’t you even try to overcome the transition costs? How far along are we to getting that oil out of the COASTAL PLAIN region of ANWR? Gas is getting expensive and we can’t change our refining infrastructure for a few years, so lets get that Alaska Crude on up while the free market reacts to the “demands of the people”?

By Buy Danish

May 3, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this

ALAN HAMMOND (FIRST TIME READER - FULL TIME POMPOUS HORSES’A$$),

Not so fast, Buster. You can’t ride in here on your high horse and ride off into the sunset except in your imaginary world. If you want to play here you need to be prepared to answer for these statements:

(((I find your intellectual bullying offensive.}}}

On what basis are you “offended” by Truthsayer’s comments and why should anyone give a flip? Gender, age, race? religion? ethnicity?

Please provide a lawyerly explanation, along with a list of damages you think you are entitled to. Upon completion of your affidavit you can add ME and others to your baseless, yet highly entertaining complaint.

(({I challenge you to think about your motivations for spending this much effort on comments regarding a comic strip}}}

If you actually read this blog and didn’t just ride into town like a drive-by Deputy you’d know that very few of the comments have anything to do with the “comic strip”, and as such you sound perfectly idiotic singling out Truthsayer, who (unlike your posse) makes a heck of a lot of sense.

{{{I suspect that you crave the attention - the thing I am now giving you.}}}

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What else can one say to such an arrogant jackass? You may want to take an introspective look at your own “cravings”. I have a hunch they aren’t fit for prime time and involve a lot of heel clicking.

{{{Don’t misunderstand me. I don’t want to read your explanation, and rest assured that I will not respond.}}}

It’s not surprising that a Drive-by Deputy would cop out AND cop a plea. In the make believe world of Alan Hammond the story always ends with him getting the final word.

By rushncap

May 3, 2007 11:08 PM | Link to this

Muffin-I was all set to vent my rage as I usually do about you getting the last word, but I read your response to Alan Hammond and it hit me that you are exactly right. Kerist, I can’t believe it didn’t hit me sooner that I’m an insignificant pimple on a gnat’s a-ss, but maybe just maybe if RW will let this stand I’ll get the last word since I’ve finally seen the light.

It’s been my life’s dream to get the last word in when real people were around. I always get the last word in with my paper girl friends and if you, and @@, RW and that despicable lil’ Andy will let me get the last word maybe I’ll learn to deal with real people and someday actually touch one.

Please let this be the last word!!!!

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