Mike Luckovich

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

In other words, it appears Sen. Feinstein was up to her ears in the same sort of shenanigans that landed California Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R) in the slammer. Indeed, it may be that the primary difference between the two is basically that Cunningham was a minor leaguer and a lot dumber than his state’s senior senator. During this period the two companies, URS of San Francisco and the Perini Corporation of Framingham, Mass., were controlled by Feinstein’s husband, Richard C. Blum, and were awarded a combined total of over $1.5 billion in government business thanks in large measure to her subcommittee. That’s a lot of money even here in Washington.

Ummm, resignation?

Now we get to find out how much of a “Republican” Schwarzenneger really is when he appoints Feinstein’s replacement.

A girly man or not?

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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Gee, I wonder why the Wolfowitz/ World Bank articles in the AJC keep getting smaller and smaller and placed farther and farther towards the back on the “news” paper?

{{{World Bank ethics panel didn’t OK pay-Urinal, democrat national committee mouthpieces.}}}

No kidding, they shirked their duty.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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{{{Ordinary Americans may not be sure whether or not the American effort in Iraq is already “lost,” but they strongly want to believe that it is still winnable. Unlike you, they think that Americans really are the “good guys” over there, whether or not we “win.” And unlike you, they do not think that we somehow earned or deserve the terrorists’ ire.}}}

Duh.

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By @@

May 2, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

This is a good one ml. I laughed when I read where Tenet rode that “nag” backwards onto 60 Minutes.

What a “Dud”.

Debbie, I encourage you to divorce that ^^^ man.

I’m on my best behavior today. I won’t even elaborate on “the tracks”.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

Queen Pinko, advocating cutting and running from law enforcement:

{{{Pennington is by no means the only police chief caught up in a futile but ruinous strategy of rounding up and prosecuting men and women who deal small amounts of illicit substances. That strategy has consumed local police for decades now, though it has done absolutely nothing to reduce the amount of drugs sold on the streets. Still, they keep doing it.}}}

A supposedly intelligent award winning editorialist should know that without the current amount of enforcement, the streets of Atlanta would probably resemble a war zone, at least those that aren’t a war zone already.

What we have now is called the acceptable status quo, sure it isn’t fair to some but how fair is it to the crackhead who’s whole life is ruined and severely shortened?

And how can one whine about the abundance of drug enforcement not being effective and then turn right around and say more gun laws would be effective?

Um, Cynthia?

{{{(Remember that colorful definition of insanity — doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?)}}}

You mean like your columns on voter ID laws?

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Brian Curtis

May 2, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

Good cartoon reference! And as always, a good reminder that the Bush administration is inherently, deeply anti-American to its core.

By Truthsayer

May 2, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull - Don’t you know by now that the liberals think that it is their God-given (except that most of them don’t believe there is a God) right to lie, cheat, steal and even murder, as long as they say they care and tow the party line? Swinestein was the mayor of one of the most corrupt cities in the United States and is still part of the political machine which runs it - the infamous Brown-Burton Machine. So is Barbara Boxer. These folks just don’t care. They haven’t since the days of Tammany Hall.

By Mrs. Godzilla

May 2, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

Mike, please don’t smear Dudley like this.

Like George Tenet, he’s not too bright.

However, Dudley would have stood up and told Inspector Fenwick the truth - that Snidely Whiplash did not have WMD. Thereby saving the life of 3344 RCMP and being a hero to sweet Nell.

Dudley Do-Right would never make Americans pay $29.95 plus tax for the truth. (IF it’s the truth)

By Environmental realist

May 2, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

For all of you left-wingnuts who are trying so desperately to save the planet, but always leap before you look, here is another reminder to LOOK:

Handle with Care

Those new compact fluorescent light bulbs may help save the planet and save you money on your energy bills — but that’s only as long as you don’t break one. The CFL’s contain a level of mercury that can be dangerous if exposed.

The Financial Post reports that one woman in Ellsworth, Maine is looking at a cleanup bill of more than $2,000 — after breaking a bulb during installation in her daughter’s bedroom. Her insurance company won’t cover the cleanup costs because mercury is a pollutant. CFL supporters say that they can save you about $180 a year in power bills. But at that rate, it will take the woman 11 years to recoup her $2,000 cleanup costs.

By Scooter

May 2, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Yeah ml, one day Tenet will write a book about it. He simply has to wait to find out what he should say and how he should say it. Just have to wait for the liberal wing of the democrat party to make their followers fall of their rockers with hysteria and then they will believe anything that fits with their preconceived beliefs.

Also, this toon is a good representation of those thousands of US citizens Bush has stolen freedoms from and locked in prison (sarc).

Here is a good question for the day; Do the war’s opponents realize, or care, that every critical statement they make is reported by the enemy’s media and passed on to homicide bombers and fighters to encourage them to keep killing Americans and Iraqis?

But if our forces try to disperse information to the Iraqi people that contradicts theirs, well; you can remember how our patriotic media portrayed it as unacceptable and propaganda.

Ultimately, Retreat will not make this nation and our interests any safer in the end. It will only encourage terrorists to continue their attacks.”

Say what? This guy must be crazy because we all know our premature retreat from Somalia did not embolden Al-Qaeda and help their recruitment.

By SKEETER

May 2, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

Do the wars proponets know that every time they try to silence the opposition to this immoral oil war our founding fathers roll over in their graves?

Oh, to hell with the consitution, as long as your a$$ is safe.

By Eric

May 2, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

Truthsayer? That handle’s a joke. It’s the neo cons who live to lie. From nixon to reagan to the shrub, they’re all colossal liars.

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Today, two retired Generals who led troops in Iraq expressed outrage at the President’s veto of the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Health, and Iraq Accountability Act.

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

[U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker acknowledged Tuesday that there “is something of an al-Qaida surge going on” in Iraq, with the group using suicide car bombs as its principal weapons, but he said that doesn’t mean the U.S.-Iraqi campaign isn’t working.] (

By Republican big, Big, BIG GOVERNMENT

May 2, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

TWIN FALLS, Idaho - Canoeist Dennis Bohrn and his companions were stunned when they saw a woman jump off the Perrine Bridge, her body landing near them in the Snake River. Many in the group were crying by the time they managed to reach the woman and paddle her body to shore.

So Bohrn was shocked when an officer walked up and instead of thanking or comforting the group last Sunday, wrote out a couple of $85 tickets for failing to have life jackets on board either of the two canoes.

“The body was right there,” said the 58-year-old Twin Falls resident. “A girl deputy was trying to console everybody. Then a sergeant walked up. He said, ‘I see you don’t have any life jackets so I am going to give you a citation.’ It seemed a little cold.”

Ain’t life in America grand, livin under the reign of ‘law n order’ Republicans? I wonder what the fine would be for saving a life!

Hell by the time we get these basturds out of government, they’ll have made it illegal to help anybody, anytime, anywhere, except for their cherished big, Big, BIG REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT and the CORPORATE WELFARE PAYOLA that it shields!

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

THE URGE TO SURGE MAYBE CONATGIOUS

U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker acknowledged Tuesday that there “is something of an al-Qaida surge going on” in Iraq, with the group using suicide car bombs as its principal weapons, but he said that doesn’t mean the U.S.-Iraqi campaign isn’t working.

By Brian Curtis

May 2, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Scooter is absolutely right! If we’re going to preserve our freedom and democracy, we must hide the internal dissent and disagreements that go along with it from the rest of the world.

If they saw how democracy allowed differing opinions to be aired in public, it would only encourage them to destroy us! We must stifle all such inappropriate speech. After all, democracy’s something to be ashamed of, isn’t it?

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

Guiliani needs to come to town and have a talk with the AJCs Pulitzer Prize winning editor. As a New Yorker, I know first hand how important it is to go after “low-level” activity as part of the “broken windows” theory.

“Consider a building with a few broken windows. If the windows are not repaired, the tendency is for vandals to break a few more windows. Eventually, they may even break into the building, and if it’s unoccupied, perhaps become squatters or light fires inside.//Or consider a sidewalk. Some litter accumulates. Soon, more litter accumulates. Eventually, people even start leaving bags of trash from take-out restaurants there or breaking into cars.”//A successful strategy for preventing vandalism, say the book’s authors, is to fix the problems when they are small. Repair the broken windows within a short time, say, a day or a week, and the tendency is that vandals are much less likely to break more windows or do further damage. Clean up the sidewalk every day, and the tendency is for litter not to accumulate (or for the rate of littering to be much less). Problems do not escalate and thus respectable residents do not flee a neighborhood.

I know this theory has many naysayers, but seeing is believing and Guiliani used these tactics and revitalized New York City. I guarantee you that New York did not turn around by coincidence.

Even “low level” drug dealing is a cancer that will kill a community if it is allowed to spread without intervention.

NOTE to ankle biters: I use wikipedia because it is convenient. I could link to the original 1982 Atlantic article but it requires registration. If you want to read it the wiki article provides a link and I recommend it as a fascinating read. I read it when it came out in 1982 so I don’t need to read it again.

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Yesterday, you left off a lot in your pawltry list of Christian terrorists. For example, you forgot the KKK and the Christian Bosnian Serb militias that slaughtered 8,000 Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica. You also forgot about the slaughter of Palestinians in refugee camps by Lebanese Christian militias. The list can go on and on, but you see, it’s not religion itself, but rather those who MANIPULATE religion for their own twisted agendas.

By Sell Denmark

May 2, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

Guiliani needs to come to town and have a talk with Creflo Dollar… maybe some good guidance would keep him out of womens clothing or announcing his impending divorce at a press conference.

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Luckovich,

Exellent cartoon!! Back in 2004, I was a supporter of Wesley Clark, because unlike Kerry and Edwards, he didn’t support the Iraq War from the beginning. A lot of Democrats truly had their heads up their arses in 2002.

For everyone else, here’s a cool column on America that appeared on BBC.com today.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

{{{By Anti Radical May 2, 2007 8:48 AM Ain’t life in America grand, livin under the reign of ‘law n order’ Republicans? I wonder what the fine would be for saving a life!}}}

Spammie: Your are an utterly ridiculous clown, if you even begin to beleive your own propaganda, then you are a slobbering dumbas-s to boot.

Top 10 Most Generous Organizations to Political Campaigns 1. American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees $38,133,049 Labor 98% of it to democrats

What a joke you liberals are, it’s YOUR government, you blooming idiot.

Morons.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

I always knew that Cohen was a babbling partisan goonie, I just never realized the extent of it:

{{{Kucinich’s Case Against Cheney By Richard Cohen The resolution offered by the gentleman from Ohio reads sensibly. It alleges crimes high and low, misdemeanors galore — all of them representing an effort to mislead the American people and take them into war. It is Dennis Kucinich’s articles of impeachment directed at Dick Cheney. The vice president will, of course, deny he’s a liar. As long as Kucinich is at it, add that to the articles.}}}

Dennis Kucinich??

Really??

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Suck-o-Dill

May 2, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

For some reason way beyond the scope of my intelligence capabilities, unions like democrats.

Damn,those unions.

Let’s make our kids start supporting themselves at age 8.

Screw the 40 hour work week - let’s make it all work all the time.

Asbestos? Toxins? I scoff at thee!

By Truthsayer

May 2, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Eric - you are again refusing to remember that the Republicans are the ones who are the first to throw their own rascals out when they get caught doing something illegal. You Democrats circle the wagons and defend them and keep them in office as long as possible. Here is a short list - William Jefferson, Diane Feinstein, Ted Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, John Murtha, Alan Cranston, John Glenn and on and on and on. You folks are all living in glass houses!

By w00t

May 2, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Sorry for the double post if there is one. The blog is acting slow for me today.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

{{{By Suck-o-Dill May 2, 2007 9:30 AM For some reason way beyond the scope of my intelligence capabilities, unions like democrats. Damn,those unions. Let’s make our kids start supporting themselves at age 8.}}}

The same jer-k off that last week was prancing all around about Toyota beating the American automakers in sales^^.

Obviously, just like all candy as-s pinko liberals, too stupid to comprehend that Toyota doesn’t support the unions either.

Moron.

I drive a Chevy because of OUR future and our KIDS future, you stone wanker.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Cindy

May 2, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Yes, it is great fun to pick at the Republicans for their moral failures because they always claim they don’t have them. Democrats know they are only human and have their feet on the ground, not on some moral pedestal.

By Republican big, Big, BIG GOVERNMENT

May 2, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Even “low level” drug dealing is a cancer that will kill a community if it is allowed to spread without intervention.

Another call for more of that grand ole big, Big, BIG REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT. Somebody oughta tell this idiot that America has been zealously enforcing drug interdiction policy since the “Harrison Narcotics Tax Act” of 1914. It has p** away trillions of dollars in the process and only worsened the drug problem exponentially.

Nobody likes drugs but it seems like after nearly 100 years of failure the Republicans would get a clue that interdiction only increases the black market value of drugs and their ‘forbidden fruit’ lure, thereby worsening the problem of addiction. As long as there is a big paycheck in drug running, there will always be someone willing to risk it all to get that payday.

Addicts are not criminals, they are sick. Making them criminals drives their destructive behavior underground where it can never be treated or corrected. This bass-ackwards enforcement stance would be confusing if someone other than Republicans were beatin this drum, but FAILURE is what Republicans do best!

Republican campaign slogan for ‘08- “A cop on every street corner and two in every bedroom!”

By JP

May 2, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

The notion that citizens should refrain from questioning, criticizing or objecting to their country’s war is — aside from being patently undemocratic — also incomparably destructive, as it eliminates (by design) a crucial mechanism for ending a misguided war: namely, the citizenry’s demands that its government cease pursuing a failed or pointless war. Despite how destructive is the notion that war criticisms are illegitimate, that idea is widespread among American political leaders and our most “serious” and respected opinion-making elite. That is why the Israeli war in Lebanon lasted four weeks and the American war in Iraq will last at least six years.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Republican 9:47

Nice example of complaining. What’s the Democratic position that will encourage me to vote Democratic in’08? Stop interdiction, stop prison sentences, decriminalize (even dealers?) and expand treatment?

(You told me what “Republicans” are bad at, but haven’t given me a reason to vote “Democratic”).

By @@

May 2, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish’s link on Rudy’s “broken windows” program reminded me of a speech Tim Robbins, Hollywooder made to an adoring audience.

He recalled visiting a tenement building where he and his family had resided during his youth. He proudly claimed a broken window in the building as one he had vandalized.

While walking down the steps and away from that same building, he laughed and said the landlord would probably want him to pay to have it replaced now.

I guess he said that because he’s so FAMOUS now, he could afford to. He never mentioned having done so.

That’s AMAZING!!!!!!

I’m outta here.

By Midori

May 2, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

That is an absolutely laugh-out-loud toon.

Excellent job, Mike :)

Tenet is a coward, a liar, and a jerk to boot.

he was kicked out of the “good ole boys club” and now wants to whine about it. “SUDDENLY” he has a conscience?

Good riddance to bad garbage.

By Scooter

May 2, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, during World War II the media agreed to not print any information that could be beneficial to the enemy. We won that war and that was the last war the media practiced such self control. Ironically that is the last war America had the political resolve to finish. Coincidence? Perhaps you don’t realize how much political power the media has over public opinion and therefore cannot see how the selective reporting affects the country overall?

Today Al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq reportedly died when his suicide belt detonated during a fight. Might he have been wearing that belt to detonate if American Soldiers gathered around his injured body? Did the media crucify one of our soldiers for shooting an unarmed injured man in Fallujah a while back?

The enemy uses information to sway the hearts and minds of the Iraqis and our “media” will criticize our government for disseminating information contradicting that of the terrorists.

Terrorists recruit new members by telling them America is imperialistic and exploits them for their natural resources. If there is any doubt in the new recruits mind the recruiters can simply point to the statements of the more “enlightened”, aka liberals, in America who agree with them.

Never would I say the freedoms should be taken away from people. I can however say people use their freedoms and liberties irresponsibly. Similar to the millions of democrats who have the freedom to work hard, overcome their obstacles to success and become successful contributors to society, but; choose to neglect those freedoms and wait for the democrats to seize more power through income redistribution programs.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{{By Anti Radical May 2, 2007 9:47 AM Nobody likes drugs but it seems like after nearly 100 years of failure the Republicans would get a clue that interdiction only increases the black market value of drugs and their ‘forbidden fruit’ lure, thereby worsening the problem of addiction.}}}

Spammie:

1) And here I thought drugs were addictive substances. Gosh, I never knew that it was all about the forbidden fruit.

All those people with sucken faces and hollow eye sockets, no teeth, did that because they couldn’t.

Gosh you libs are just the most smartest people!

2) Seeing how drugs have been illegal and that law has been enforced since like forever, what in the F do Republicans have to do with it?

YOU stupid mental defectives are in charge of the legislature, you babbling moron.

Do something about it you jackleg retard.

Is it all you know how to do, whine?

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Black Danish

May 2, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Don’t listen to dem fools tellin you how to vote. We’s be in good hands wit da republicans and it ought to stay dat way. Da democrats just gon git us in mo twouble.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

I see Scooter is in on the blame game.

He blames the media, then blames the Iraqis and want to take their new freedom.

The bottom line, the buck stops over there.

Geez.

Amazing.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Scooter 9:58

It strikes me as a matter of degree. WWII was a war for survival - many (including half the Democratic candidates) don’t see the war against Islamic (pick your own term) jihadists as a war at all.

Many opposed some of the censorship policies during WWII - but most stuck. Things that were done then (censoring personal letters to families) would be met with outrage today (don’t think so? Look at what happened when the gov’t monitored phone calls from overseas/terror suspects to locations in the US).

There was debate about the conduct of WWII - wisdom of Europe first, not Japan, for example - Republicans did not run against Roosevelt by agreeing with him - but there was generally a tone of “we must win this” which was never doubted by our enemies or their propagandists.

Many distinguish between prevailing in Iraq and prevailing against jihadists in the larger war. But you have a point - many here or in the foreign press do not so distinguish. My sense is many who hear the rhetoric against continued involvement in Iraq generalize to lack of commitment against jihadists. That is a point Democratic candidates could make - but haven’t.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

Would you please provide a list of names and associated quotes of prominent Republicans that claim they are without human failings?

Thank you in advance!

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

WWII was not some BS war created by an idiot president for his own personal agenda based on bad information and deceitful sales to the American people and designed and led from the outset to fail on a country that was contained and not an immediate threat to the country. In WWII the US went into a battle with everything available to them including detailed planning and they were willing to change the course for success if something wasn’t working.

If we were truly fighting terrorists; if we had worked to get bin laden and rid Afghanistan of the Taliban, I would be more supportive. We dropped Afghanistan on their butts and decided to play war games at the detriment of our military in a country we had no business invading.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

Add Hollywood to @@’s long list of hate er “spurn”.

Geez.

Paul,

You are a wingnut and will never vote Dem. Brainwashed by BO.

Cut the crap.

Geez.

By Republican big, Big, BIG GOVERNMENT

May 2, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Paul- Personally, I believe that registering addicts and selling them their poison at cost plus standard profit through the existing phamaceutical network is the way to take the profit out of the drug business and ultimately reduce the problem to the lowest level possible. I do not believe that it will ever be eliminated as people have been using psychoactive substances for at least 6,000 years (found in Egyptian funeral jars of that period).

If addicts live healthy and prosper by such a system, they never had a problem to begin with and we were wrong to control them. If they kill themselves off thereby, good riddance and the problem does not fester for a lifetime infecting others along the way.

I do not imagine this to be a concept that would be embraced by Democrats, but then Democrats are not the party that tosses this political football around in order to deflect attention from their inability to govern effectively.

By reebok

May 2, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Great cartoon, very funny. Not so funny is the fact that both Colin Powell and George Tenet have suddenly decided to grow a pair AFTER they left office, and only for purposes of distancing themselves from the debacle in Iraq. Where were their stones 3,300 American lives and $5B ago…?

By Paul

May 2, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

getalife

Your making assumptions about my voting history or political views is pretty off the mark. Then again, I’ve found many at the far end of the political spectrums seem to take upon themselves the mantle of omniscience.

Republican 10:16

Now you sound like that great conservative, William F. Buckley! (mild irony, cited to show original ideas among Republican conservatives).

That’s an idea that’s anathema to anyone in politics - Dem or Rep. While it makes all kinds of sense, you’re right, it’ll never see the light of day. BTW - “War on Drugs” policies run largely unchanged through Democratic and Republican administrations. It’s another one of those programs that gets put in place and runs on autopilot (with budget increases to show “progress,” of course).

Some states are putting in effective rehab programs in prison/parole systems. Has really cut back relapse.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

reebok

What?!!? Colin Powell has a book deal?

By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!

May 2, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

-=-

Goood Morning Viet New York!~

Will this be yet another “Fox Network” biased News media outlet?

Rupert Murdoch makes a play to own “The Dow Jones” and with it, “The Wall Street Journal”

Yikes!~~

-=-

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadical May 2, 2007 10:16 AM If they kill themselves off thereby, good riddance.}}}

Did you copy that everybody, see how Spammie defines caring for your fellow man the liberal way?

Just so much trash that needs to be dead, huh, Spammie?

All those Iraqi people, better off dead, right? All those Africans dying of malaria cause we outlawed DDT, better off dead. All those junkies, let’s not keep drugs scarce and overpriced, let’s make them plentiful, it will only be those dirty people killing themselves.

You liberals are sick, sick, sick.

I’m talking about sick.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Republican big, Big, BIG GOVERNMENT

May 2, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Seeing how drugs have been illegal and that law has been enforced since like forever, what in the F do Republicans have to do with it?

Harrison Narcotics Tax Act (first federal drug regulation) was championed by Teddy Rossevelt (R), idiot! It was wrong and simple-minded then, and it has proven to be another boondoggle in a long littany of Republican FAILURE!

By Soothsayer

May 2, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull, @@, Truthsayer, BuyDanish, Etc.: Please define “victory” in Iraq. I’m serious—please spell it out. Once you have done so, please give your estimate of the probability of achieving that victory. I’ll check back later for your remarks. You can, however, leave out the namecalling because I am neither a liberal or conservative. I belong to the middle 50% of Americans who are neither.

By Truthman

May 2, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Please do not feed the LuckoDull:

Species: HOMO Sapien

Family: Bushibus Blindedby

Range: Was more widespread, but now it’s range is limited to the Southeastern U.S. and parts of Utah not called Salt Lake City.

Song: Gutteral, angry. Known to parrot Karl Rove and Sean Hannity.

Distinguishing Marks or Characteristics: Mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, wife-beating, “W-04” stickers, divorcing, believing everything is peachy in Iraq.

Similar species: Includes Limbaughtus Idiotus, Coulterus clitorusis and Sonnyus Perdueus!

Should be considered armed and extremely disingenuous. Known to lower IQ of entire regions.

Do Not Feed the LuckoDull!!!

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

RW, Pull your head out of the sand. Ways and actions speak louder than words.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

{{{Clinton, who has warned against global warming from the stump and hyped the need for alternative energy such as ethanol, burned through thousands of gallons of jet fuel swooping along the campaign trail - and it’s not clear why she sent an empty plane to wait for her in South Carolina then flew a different jet from Washington the next day.}}}

Because “global warming” rules are for you common people to have to deal with, the elite gasbag liberals don’t have to adjust their behaviors, they just have to tell you how to live.

Hey, I just defined democrats^^, again.

Everybody is starting to figure these people out.

And you’re gonna hate 08®.

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By getalife

May 2, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Your worship of BO gives you away.

It is very easy to see who will vote Dem.

The ones that write their outrage over the illegal occupation and want accountability and oversight.

The ones who know where the buck stops.

I am seeing many pundits, neocons and gop playing the blame game. They know Reid was right.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Soothsayer

Altho not addressed to me, it has been noted the proper (by position) person to address this to is Senate Majority Leader Sen Reid, who said we “cannot win” in Iraq. He obviously knows the definition of “win” as he said we cannot.

By Truthsayer

May 2, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Victory in Iraq is the ability of the Iraqis to maintain their own security, to continue on a course toward full democratic freedoms and thus to have regular elections and open debate. It also means that their neighbors stop interfering by sending in help to anti-government insurgents. This is the same goal that we had for Germany and Japan after World War II. It is the same goal we had for South Korea. After much effort the goal was met in all of those nations.

What would victory in Iraq be for you?

By @@

May 2, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

One last post to accompany LuckoDull’s 10:26.

(((Stopes, who opened Britain’s first “family planning clinic” in 1921, referred to the children of the poor as “puny and utterly unsatisfactory.”)))

Stopes was an advocate for abortion like the “compassionate” liberals are today.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

You are counting on the Iraq government fools. The Sunnies are leaving, they are taking two months off in the middle civil war. They are worse than the do nothing gop. They will do nothing while we are there.

Wake up.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Cindy @ 10:32,

Should you really lash out at me because you were lying at 9:47? tsk tsk

Examples please???

By Paul

May 2, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

getalife

My “worship” of OR is rooted in the fact he uses his position to work for legislation with which I agree (sanctions against predators), he’s pretty proenvironmental, opposes the death penalty, and conducts interviews in a manner that forces the interviewee/politician to answer specific questions. When the answer dodges the question (see Sen Dodd’s response to taking money from lobbyists in the Democratic debate) OR asks the question again, and again, and again. If that’s worship, I suppose I’m guilty.

Some will vote based upon criteria other than Iraq. Surprise, surprise. (not everyone who opposes the conduct of the Iraq war is a Democrat and everyone who favors a policy other than immediate withdrawal is a Republican neocon. Shattering news, I know, but there you have it).

By Truthsayer

May 2, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Republican, Big…. The Harrison Act was a wonderful idea then and it still is. You obviously know ZERO about the horrible drug epidemic during the late 19th and early 20th century and how addiction ran rampant. Progressives actually championed these drug laws! You can even order the DVDs on the history of drugs from the History Channel. Educate yourself!

By Republican big, Big, BIG GOVERNMENT

May 2, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Just so much trash that needs to be dead, huh, Spammie?

I’m all for givin people the freedom to make their own decisions, even if it means they might kill themselves thereby. Republicans just HATE the very idea of a free society, don’t they?

Like any good Republican, LuckDull wants to control and protect us from ourselves, rather we need or want protection by his big, Big, BIG REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT or not!

By Truthsayer

May 2, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Republican Big… - I guess that you are all for legalized murder (Ted Kennedy) and for forgiveness of all debts and obligations and no government at all? Oh, that’s right, you socialists are opposed to any sort of economic freedom, I forgot.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Oh please Paul.

He shouts over people disagreeing with him and cuts their mikes.

He is freaking wingnut on Faux who thinks he is right about everything when he is dead wrong. There is a long list at Crooks and Liars with video of this lunatic.

Plus, he is phone sex freak with his employees.

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

RW,

You are the nasty one. I am not lying. I was only trying to encourage you to stop reading and living in the neo-con trash only and look around you. Try living in the Johnston neighborhood for 3 months and getting to know your neighbors there.

I know you think you are very smart because you can paste links.

By Truthman

May 2, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Poor Ted Kennedy! He’s the only example the tired old neo-con can trot out there.

Please refer to my 10:30 post and replace LuckoDull with your name.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadical May 2, 2007 10:28 AM Seeing how drugs have been illegal and that law has been enforced since like forever, what in the F do Republicans have to do with it? Harrison Narcotics Tax Act (first federal drug regulation) was championed by Teddy Rossevelt (R), idiot! It was wrong and simple-minded then, and it has proven to be another boondoggle in a long littany of Republican FAILURE!}}}

Roosevelt?

Did Spammie really just reply to me with Roosevelt?

Spammie:

1) Who is in charge of the legislature, the branch of government that proposes and codifies the various laws of the land? This is the year of our Lord 2007, simpleton, look at the calender.

2) If you candy as-s pervert liberals don’t like the law the way it is written should you-

a) Use the Senate and House to conduct witch hunts and show trials against the executive branch?

b) Whine like a baby with a full diaper on a “news” paper’s cartoonists blog?

3) Shouldn’t you stop molesting underaged Thai boys and start paying closer attention to how government works if you are going to spens all your time criticizing it?

Pull your pervert head out of your as-s, loser.

And you’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Cindy

May 2, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

RW,

Do you recall when….Newt Gingrich admitted that he was having an affair at the same time as he was leading the charge against Bill Clinton for having an affair with Monica Lewinsky?

By getalife

May 2, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

“A recent worldwide poll showed that under the Bush presidency, America has become the third most unpopular country in the world — right behind Iran and just ahead of North Korea. Why do you believe that has that happened?”

It not the liberals idiots, the buck stops with w and his party.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Paul,

If really want a no spin zone , I suggest KO instead of BO

KO actually does use the facts only.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

Now you’ve added obfuscation to your lashing out. To refresh your memory this is the unsubstantiated claim you made.

{{{{{Yes, it is great fun to pick at the Republicans for their moral failures because ———->they always claim they don’t have them<————. Democrats know they are only human and have their feet on the ground, not on some moral pedestal.}}}}}}

What, pray tell, does that have to do with me living in the Johnston neighborhood? I’ll anticipate your learned response upon my return this afternoon. Perhaps you’ll tell me it has something to do with the space shuttle or some such nonsense.

Maybe you should check with Spammie, aka big biG bIG BIG, about his goals for the Johnston neighborhood. Do you agree with him that the quicker the good folks in that neighborhood are exterminated the better?

To Thomas of many ID’s and rushncap: That note to Cindy means I”M LEAVING NOW so you can crawl out into the open and flame me.

Later!

By getalife

May 2, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Paul,

If really want a no spin zone , I suggest KO instead of BO

KO actually does use the facts only.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

getalife

So what’s your point? Frankly I don’t think he cuts mikes enough (I believe he (rarely) does it for reasons other than disagreement) - I wish more talk shows would when the guest engages in a filibuster or attempts to talk over the other guest. I’ve seen it where one person makes a point, OR asks the other guest to respond, the first starts shouting over, then his/her mic is cut - they look pretty goofy.

“Right” and “wrong” are often a matter of opinion. Again, I notice extremists at both ends of the spectrums define “right” and “wrong” as “agree with me” or “disagree with me.”

For the umpteenth time, I really don’t care what people do with their sex lives. That’s why I don’t care much about the upcoming ‘scandal’ in Washington, DC. You seem to be pretty concerned with private lives of public people. I’m not, I guess that’s a differnce.

Not “right” not “wrong” - just a difference.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

So after I completely destroyed your arguments, @@, the best you can do is post way after hours and whine about the fact that I chose Danny Glover over Sean Penn? How pathetic.

P.S. Liberals don’t “advocate” abortion, any more than we “advocate” cosmetic surgery or chewing gum. We advocate people having the ability to choose to do or not do any of these things. You know, freedom. We advocate having that.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You have to take a long term appproach to this. Let’s look at our right-wing premises. 1) 1 out of 5 people on the planet are Muslims and therefore are simply taking up space here until they enter the gates of hell and besides some of them are real dangerous. 2) 1 out of 5 people are atheist communists and also destined for hell. 3) Panty waste liberals don’t like us killing people unless we have a good reason other than that they are soul-less, God-less creatures that our Lord directs us to kill. No they want something more. Therefore you have to create an enviroment where the people we want to kill now will give us a better reason to kill them later.

You see it will all work out in the end. We make sure everybody hates us so much that they give us a reason and then we will kill them. Of course, if we could just kill the liberals first, then we could skip that whole middle part. Yeah, now there’s a good idea.

RWNJIFG

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

OOPS, One last post.

Cindy,

Admitting a failure certainly doesn’t sound like claiming you have no human failings to me. Is that the best you can do?

BYE!

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadicalMay 2, 2007 10:43 AM I’m all for givin people the freedom to make their own decisions, even if it means they might kill themselves thereby. Republicans just HATE the very idea of a free society, don’t they?}}}

Spammie: This is what you said {{{If they kill themselves off thereby, good riddance}}}

WTF do “Republicans” have to do with the filth that came out of your mouth??

Are you a hopeless retard who can only spastically reply “republican” over and over again like an idiot, accept when you say “good riddance” to dead human beings?

Weird.

And sick.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Cindy

May 2, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

George W. Bush waged war on Iraq because, in his own words, God “instructed me to strike at Saddam

He totally ignored all the people who God had told that the US should not strike at Saddam. Like I said, holier-than-thou.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Nevermind Paul,

There are no opinions in facts (that is spin) but watch your little bully, phone sex freak.

I will consider you not informed and a wingnut like the rest of them. Just another idiot is my opinion.

No spin zone, my a-ss.

Geez.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

getalife 11:00

Thanks for the suggestion, but as I said the other day, diagramming Olbermann’s expositions shows:

If a guest is involved, generally pick one sympathetic to your position.

On commentary, show a video or read edited comments of the topic/person. Ridicule the coments (do not provide a factually-based counter). Read some more, now ridicule the speaker or writer. No matter the topic, use it to segue to anti-Bush/conservative/Iraq comments. Inject variationss of “how dare they” or “how could they.” Interlace with cutesy namecalling, particularly using a person’s name as the basis.

As I’ve said, I don’t learn (I’m not talking about entertainment or cheerleading) much from watching him - I don’t hear factually-based positions that will translate to other settings - nor do I find him using his position for good on nonpolitical issues, like OR or Oprah. It has nothing to do with “conservative” “liberal” or “libertarian” or “pro or anti-Bush.”

By getalife

May 2, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Right Paul

Idiot.

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

RW, Living in that neighborhood was just a suggestion on taking a step to learn about the world around you. The Newt example was showing that it is okay for him, but not Clinton; typical holier than thou attitude. Most (please note I did not say all) neo-cons are priveleged people who have been fortunate to have parents to guide and support them, money for spending and have never known want for basic ncecessities. Because of this they can’t imagine that others were raised with less than what they had. Whereas all my life I heard about going to college, many kids only hear about getting the next fix or bottle of booze. Had you been raised in such an environment, I doubt you would have your condescending attitude today.

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

The U.S. Army has ordered soldiers to stop posting to blogs or sending personal e-mail messages, without first clearing the content with a superior officer

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

The religious right Republicans are simply obsessed with sex

By Paul

May 2, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

getalife 11:15

Opinions are extrapolated from facts. Opinions extrapolated from other opinions (“Bush staged 9-11 so he could invade Iraq and make his buddies rich”)are simply misinformed opinions.

You really are impressed with peoples’ sex lives, aren’t you? You sure you aren’t really a neocon evangelical Christian?

BTW - I saw the interview you cited on “Crooks and Liars” a well-know website concerned with truth. As I said, I generally go to the source, not to websites with agendas. I’ll agree, that was a pretty uncomfortable interview. But the Colonel was one of the most left wing, America’s what’s wrong in the world military types I’ve ever heard. Then again, scanning her bio, it’s not surprising she made colonel while in the Reserves. Retired military or not, she strikes me as another zealot.

Possibly I was wrong. Does Olbermann (MSNBC) have guests on every night with whom he strongly disagrees?

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

If the U.S. government doesn’t plan to occupy Iraq for any longer than necessary, why is it spending billions of dollars to build “enduring” bases?

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

{{{By IN THE PROPAGANDA May 2, 2007 11:33 AM The U.S. Army has ordered soldiers to stop posting to blogs or sending personal e-mail messages, without first clearing the content with a superior officer}}}

Ummm, Prop: FDR did the same thing for ALL citizens of the United States, he was a lib like you.

{{{Despite the absolutist language, the guidelines’ author, Major Ray Ceralde, said there is some leeway in enforcement of the rules. “It is not practical to check all communication, especially private communication,” he noted in an e-mail. “Some units may require that soldiers register their blog with the unit for identification purposes with occasional spot checks after an initial review. Other units may require a review before every posting.”}}}

You know, a sensible way to make sure that traitors aren’t passing secrets to the enemy, being smart in other words.

Something you couldn’t possibly understand.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Truthman

May 2, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Please do not feed the LuckoDull:

Species: HOMO Sapien

Family: Bushibus Blindedby

Range: Was more widespread, but now it’s range is limited to the Southeastern U.S. and parts of Utah not called Salt Lake City.

Song: Gutteral, angry. Known to parrot Karl Rove and Sean Hannity.

Distinguishing Marks or Characteristics: Mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, wife-beating, “W-04” stickers, divorcing, believing everything is peachy in Iraq.

Similar species: Includes Limbaughtus Idiotus, Coulterus clitorusis and Sonnyus Perdueus!

Should be considered armed and extremely disingenuous. Known to lower IQ of entire regions.

Do Not Feed the LuckoDull!!!

By Truthman

May 2, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

FDR - The greatest president of the 20th Century!!

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

RW,

Holier than thou: boy they loved attacking Clinton: “It’s vile,” said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. “It’s more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction.”

What hypocrites! Yes, such folks deserve a poke or tow.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

{{{By IN THE PROPAGANDA May 2, 2007 11:35 AM The religious right Republicans are simply obsessed with sex}}}

You know Prop, I often wonder where people find kook websites like the one you listed, then it dawned on me that you are a kook:

{{{And really creepy sex at that. One of the lead religious right groups, the American Family Association, in addition to promoting a known hate group on its Web site (a group that is lumped together with neo-Nazis and the Klan in a report compiled by the Southern Poverty Law Center), is now publishing on its site a list of what it calls “sexual orientations.” The list is filthy, it’s the kind of thing we would never publish on this blog under any circumstance. It’s not child safe by any means, and the AFA’s Web site should be banned by every child safety filter in the country (please report their site if you know how to do so).}}}

Well, well, sounds like we need to look into this “trash:”

{{{A new study finds that children from religious homes are better behaved than kids who grow up in homes without religious influence. The study, conducted by sociologists at Mississippi State University, asked parents and teachers of more than 16,000 children to rate how much self-control the young people had and how often they exhibited poor behavior.- American Family Association.}}}

Why, the horror!

How dare you try to make kids behave!!

You monsters!

(Look at this punka-ss coward website prop has linked to, the link back to their own articles to prove how awful the Christian people are. They are their own source. Moonbats.)

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Midori

May 2, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

where are all the war architects?

What a bunch of f*cking LOSERS!!!

Much like their apologists on this blog.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Stop pretending to be intelligent Paul.

Your obvious bias is countering that claim.

Its not about left vs right anymore, it is about right vs wrong and you can’t see this.

There are over one hundred videos on that site of your hero BO. It is hard to spin the video of that idiot but just you did.

Amazing. Yep, you are a full blown wingnut.

It is not called Crooks and liars for nothing.

Watch KO to answer your stupid question. You just might learn the facts instead of the spin.

I doubt you will because it will counter your idiotic mindset.

By Midori

May 2, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

This is a welcome dose of realism after months of optimistic statements from the Bush administration, claiming we would know by the end of the summer if the latest troop escalation was “working.” As Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of the American military in Iraq has emphasized, the kind of counterinsurgency campaign his troops are now fighting takes years to “work” in any meaningful sense, assuming it ever does.

That pressure will only grow. As increasingly panicky Republicans are all too aware, this is still a democracy, which means America will begin to withdraw from Iraq no later than January of 2009, even if bringing this about requires an electoral rout of the Republican Party in November of next year.

In the end, President Bush’s failure to heed the will of the people isn’t so much an act of principle, but rather an outburst of sheer peevishness. With Democrats in control of Congress, he’s no longer getting a blank check to fund his military adventures. He finds this frustrating, so he’s stamping his foot, covering his ears, and taking his party down with him.

All this is exactly what one would expect in the way of a political farewell gesture from a spoiled rich kid who never grew up. Future generations of historians will note George W. Bush made a mess of every real job he ever had - and, unfortunately for America, the presidency of the United States proved to be no exception.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Midori

The article omitted Perle.

It also omitted many of the serving general officers of the various services or those from Centcom, including one of the Bush critics who just happened to be in charge of Operations at CENTCOM on the runup to the war.

In short, many are still embedded in Federal service or retired and still exerting influence. Kinda makes one feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn’t it?

By JNH

May 2, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

10:35AM - Also consider the books written by some of these ‘righteous ones.’ You will not see then at your local bookstore (too bad for the false image of piety).

By Paul

May 2, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

getalife 11:55

I just happen to like OR’s show format better than KO’s. I just can’t decide if that’s a fact. Or an opinion. Or a fact based on opinion. Or an opinion based on fact. Maybe it’s a factual opinion. It all gets soooo confusing.

Like I said earlier, I’m not much on zealots at either end of the spectrum. Especially those who want to define others as “right” or “wrong” in all things. That’s waaaay to neocon for me. Your true colors may be showing…

:)

By getalife

May 2, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

w’s new victory slogan has been reduced to lowering the violence.

Good luck with that when they have no government.

I guess we will be their police.

By JP

May 2, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Paul, your attempts to rationalize being an O’Reilly fan cause you to lose respect with me. I cannot tolerate anyone who tells his guests to “SHUT UP!!!” like Bill-O does. Give Olbermann credit—you may not agree with him, and he has a bad habit of not bringing on opposing guests, but not once can you look back to see him grandstanding and belittling a guest in the truly dispicable mode of Bill-O.

Bill-O is a hack with an opinion. At least when Olbermann does the “worst pesron” segment, he details actions and behaviors and recites the “Worst person” line in a self-mocking voice, with silly organ music, so that he does NOT come across as purely a shrill jerk. Too bad Bill has absolutely no tact or decency.

I cannot respect anyone who considers himself an O’Reilly fan.

By DebbieDoRight

May 2, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

{[Debbie, I encourage you to divorce that ^^^ man.}}

My Dudley tried; unfortunately when he should’ve been talking about what he now claims he saw he was penning his memoirs awaiting the day for that big fat publishing paycheck. (which Debbie gets half of, sorry)

Dudley & Debbie 4EVER!!! (or until the check dries)

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but O’Reilly is full of crap. He claims to be an independent, but yet when he is absent from the studio, he has ultraconservatives guest-host his show like Michelle Malkin.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife May 2, 2007 12:04 PM w’s new victory slogan has been reduced to lowering the violence.}}}

Gee, I sure hope it is.

gitmo: It looks like your daily bout of cannabis induced psychosis has set in, is it flashback or the real thing?

Bush is gonna git you, sucker!

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Paul

May 2, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

JP

Well, that’s really too bad. I think the “shut up” thing has been done in seriousness a few times since the show’s been on the air. One time, I think, directed to a young man right after 9-11 - whose father was killed in the attack - who seriously maintained some nonsense along the lines that his dad deserved it as he was part of the oppressive blah blah blah.

The guy has a temper - he admits it. As I said with Olbermann - a lot of a format thing, also find his commentary even outside the Worst Person segment pretty distasteful - rather coarse and leading to the kind of interchanges we see here. It strikes me as rather calculated. Anyone who regularly engages in that kind of namecalling and belittling doesn’t appeal to me as a serious commentator.

Amazing, though, that people get “respected or “disrespecte” (are those even words?) by the tv shows they watch or find insightful or amusing. And I notice this seems to come much more from the Left than the Right. For all the talk about “neocon thought police” and “loss of freedom to express opinions under Bush” it seems pretty ironic.

They’re tv shows. Loosen up.

By Goldie

May 2, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

George Tenet certainly had no qualms about accepting his Presidential Medal for doing a “heckuva job” at Bush-kissing!

By getalife

May 2, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Andy,

He has given up on the Iraqis standing up.

They do not have to , we broke it, now we have to police it.

I am with the Israeli people, when you lose a war due to the leadership, force them to resign.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

steve-o 12:16

Finally someone with a rational point - and one with which I agree. Then again, considering the flack Democrats take for even appearing on the show (Jane Hall just spoke of this - I think Sen Kerry did, also) I suppose it isn’t surprising. I wonder why she hasn’t hosted -

I generally hit “delete” when those segments air.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Israel’s Foreign Minister Calls For Olmert’s Resignation:

“I Told The Prime Minister…[It’s] The Right Thing To Do”

Yes, the right thing to do.

This is an example of right vs wrong.

We should do the same to the Bushies.

It is the right thing to do.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Even Saddam didn’t know he had no WMD, haha:

{{{Even Saddam believed he had a biological, chemical and, possibly, nuclear program in place. As David Kay told The New York Times following his post-invasion survey of suspected arms caches, Iraq was still researching and developing ricin production and weaponization up to the end. Otherwise, according to Kay, Saddam’s scientists lied to the Iraqi leader about weapons programs in order to get government funds.}}}

We got “scientists” lying to the government about human caused “global warming” and Iraq had them lying about WMD.

Looks like Saddam had some pinko®s in his government too.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Paul

May 2, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull

Iraqi commanders also issued their soldiers chem warfare suits and were shocked when they found they didn’t have the munitions. It was kind of “now how are we supposed to stop the Americans?”

Did you also notice Tenet said they thought Iraq would develop a nuke by 2007-2009? Tenet knew the status of inspections and still came up with that opinion. Think any of our candidates are going to suggest we readdress the US intelligence agencies’ interactions and maybe (now that Rumsfeld’s gone) transfer Pentagon intel funds? Money equals power - as soon as some saw the original legislation left much of the money in place we knew it was a lot of PR - it’s better than it was but still not nearly good enough.

By Blackadder

May 2, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

In response to Environmental realist’s 8:20

I apologize if it has already been debunked.

Read the section entitled “What should I do if a CFL breaks”.

CFL Fact Sheet

By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

IS THAT ALL?

STUDY: Bill O’Reilly Uses Derogatory Names ‘More Than Once Every Seven Seconds’

By getalife

May 2, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Please let Paul have his hack.

He loves BO.

Nuff said.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Tenet said he will not give his medal back.

At least, he resigned.

I am amazed that many will not, even though they are complete failures.

I guess they are not man or woman enough to own up to their failures.

And so it goes.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

“A Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,141 adults, conducted April 12-15, found that 58 percent trusted the Democrats in Congress to do a better job handling the situation in Iraq, compared with 33 percent who trusted Bush.”

That means that there are like 2 communist, pinko, cowards for every real American. America’s future is too important to leave to the majority of the people. Its time for Bush to declare a national emergency and suspend the ‘08 elections before its too late!

If democracy is to succeed in Iraq it must be first stopped here at home.

Whose with me?

RWNJIFG

By Paul

May 2, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

getalife

Still can’t let it go? Let me try it this way:

John Maynard Keynes was a noted economist. Even after he became famous some attempted to discredit the validity of his theories or argue against them by discrediting him - because he was homosexual.

Some people like the book “Battlefield Earth.” Others don’t comment on the book at all - they simply point out that the author is the founder of Scientology so, my gosh, if you like his book you must be deranged and pathetic and be a Scientology sympathizer - forget if the book is a fun read or not.

Get it? I like ideas. I like differing viewpoints. I like to hear people debate points with true believers with whom they disagree. I’m less interested in personal foibles, theatrics or appearances (Kucinich supporters understand this concept). I understand the difference between the debate and the debator, the idea and the advocate, the purpose of the battle and the tactic, seeing the forest or counting the needles on the pines.

By Blackadder

May 2, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

The U.S. Army has ordered soldiers to stop posting to blogs or sending personal e-mail messages, without first clearing the content with a superior officer, Wired News has learned. The directive, issued April 19, is the sharpest restriction on troops’ online activities since the start of the Iraq war. And it could mean the end of military blogs, observers say.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job May 2, 2007 1:44 PM “A Washington Post-ABC News poll of 1,141 adults, conducted April 12-15, found that 58 percent trusted the Democrats in Congress to do a better job handling the situation in Iraq, compared with 33 percent who trusted Bush.”}}}

Nut hugger:

{{{Final War Funding Bill in Works U.S. Divided on Pullout, Favor Congress to Set Policy, Poll Finds By Jonathan Weisman and Jon Cohen Washington Post Tuesday, April 17, 2007; Congress and the White House will move this week toward a final showdown over a contested war funding bill, with most Americans trusting Democrats over President Bush to set Iraq policy {{{{{{{{{{but with sentiment deeply divided over Congress’s push to set a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces.}}}}}}

You should always read through a Washington Post article until it says “but.” Then you will have arrived at the truth.

{{{While congressional Democrats fare better when compared with Bush, 62 percent of poll respondents disliked the way they have handled the situation in Iraq. Bush’s disapproval rating on his handling of the war was 70 percent.}}}

Even in a pinko® poll, the democrats are only running 8% better then Bush, hahahahaha, after just 3 months.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By getalife

May 2, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Which part of nuff said did you not get Paul?

Keep it short and to the point .

You babble too much trying to pretend you have a brain.

Blah, blah, blah.

Geez.

By Wouldn't it be nice

May 2, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

if sheeple like Blackadder would read the blog before posting so he wouldn’t keep repeating everything?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Discussion point for fellow wingers:

It seems to me that after we kill all the terrorists and insurgents and Islamists in Iraq and we have won the war, the few people that are left are going to have to defend themselves from their neighbors.

What I am wondering what weapons we should give Iraq so that they can do the job. This would mean of course small arms, tanks, RPG’s, SAM’s, helicoptors, fighter jets, modern radar equipment etc… Otherwise, they will be sitting ducks for the Iranians.

Do you agree that we can, after victory, trust the Iraqis with this sort of military equipment? Since the war was right and since we knew at some point that they would need to be armed, arming them must be right too.

I’m very, very, very interested in your thoughts.

By bon scott

May 2, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Ah, I see the he babbling of the handful of wingnuts here, especially that subhuman dull contues uabated. Just repeat the lies often enough…..

Time for a breat of fresh air…

[..Here’s how the sequence of events went: In 2000, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Kristol, and others decided that the US was the boss of the world, and was to be the boss of the world for at least a hundred years. Cheney made himself vice president and grafted his ambitions onto whatever Bush thought he was doing. Already in “Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” the PNACkers were planning to get rid of Saddam Hussein, but then after the Republicans cheated and bullied their way into the presidency (thank you, Jeb Bush), they disdained everything Clinton had learned about Al Qaeda and the Middle East and a potential terrorist attack on American soil. When that attack occurred, they instantly annexed it to their agenda, and used it as an excuse to begin a civil war in Iraq, get rid of Saddam, and take control of the oil (not, as Greg Palast says, to turn the spigot on but to turn it off, and raise prices and profits). Having begun the Iraq civil war, which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and injuries to Iraqis and Americans, not to mention the internal displacement of millions, the PNACkers have no interest in ending it (and don’t know how, anyway](http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ExCIAanalystForgedyellowcakememoleads0430.html]

{{Why is that? It is because they don’t know who the enemy is, or rather, because they define the enemy as anyone who is opposed to American interests. Today the enemy is one set of Islamic fundamentalists, tomorrow it will be another set. Today, two sets of Islamicists are against us. Tomorrow, one set will be for us and the other set will have found a new ally, and be against us.}}

Every day, we learn more about how neocons pushed a war that had nothing to do with 9/11 and very little to do with terrorism.

To paraphrase the subprimate, “We’re gona LOVE ‘08

By Blackadder

May 2, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Dear Mr. President, I am writing this letter in the unlikely event you will actually see these words. Even if you do, I know it is unlikely that you will heed my words where so many other more knowledgeable, powerful, and eloquent people have failed. Still, I am a loyal and patriotic American and believe it is my duty to make my voice heard. To do less would be to surrender my responsibilities as an American. To do less would make me exactly what you accuse your detractors of - traitors.

By JP

May 2, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Paul, you raise a fair point, but.. to use another example, if you listen to Hannity for more than 4 minutes as a non-Reagan Conservative then you subject yourself to an endless series of slurs and slanders related to being a “librul.” Same goes for Boortz, our local Atlanta hack, and Savage—although at times I find the latter 2 are at least reasonable. I don’t understand why conservatives need to consistently slur their opponents?

You’d be interested inthis: a recent study shows that O’Reilly uses derogatory names practically as th entirety of his vocabulary. Why would anyone defend him?

From a broader viewpoint, it’s troubling that the media has degenerated to this type of ranting as news. But of course when the (flawed, admittedly) idea of the Fairness Doctrine comes up, it’s Sean Hannity blazing the trail yelling about people wanting to “Silence the conservatives.”

Are conservatives seriously unable to get their views out without these shows? Do conservatives really deny the degree to which ALL the channels were toting the line before the Iraq war, failing to question practically anything?

And finally, from Dick Cheney on down, conservatives like to state they dont’ question patriotism but rather they question judgment. Choices do make a statement about judgment, but not just for liberals.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Weed does not make you crazy like Andy

Reefer madness is bs.

Now, I am off to raid the fridge.

Got the munchies man.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

getalife

Thank you for another reasoned, logical, supported counterargument.

Maybe try borrowing something from someone else, like that “Cheney made himself Vice President” post following yours. At least it’s an original concept - here I always thought it was the Trilateral Commission who put him in power -

By JP

May 2, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Right wing: “That means that there are like 2 communist, pinko, cowards for every real American. America’s future is too important to leave to the majority of the people. Its time for Bush to declare a national emergency and suspend the ‘08 elections before its too late!”

I can’t express my disgust for this sentiment, even though you seem to be partially joking about it. Were this to happen, there would be a revolt. I’d be part of it.

I would never soil myself by being “With you.”

By RE

May 2, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Our fearless leader:

“Either we’ll succeed, or we won’t succeed.”

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Hey finchie:

Bush and Cheney got 21 months left in power, when do you reckon they’ll get started working on your moonbat paranoid conspiracy theory^^?

Same time you learn to spell, maybe?

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

JP,

You don’t know why conservatives slur liberals? Aren’t you paying attention? The reason that conservatives slur liberals is because it is essential to gaining power. Think about it. If you took the people that tangibly benefit from GOP rule, it would be less than 10% of the population. I mean there just aren’t enough CEOs, weapons manufactures and idoits with large inheritances to elect anybody. However, you must note that there are quite a few idiots who can be influenced to do pretty much whatever you ask them to if you scare them and make them feel as if they are doing the patriotic thing.

So the strategy is this:

The GOP raises money from the rich people and serves only their interests. Then they pick some other issues like guns and now you have a little coalition building. And then you say that abortion is bad and the coalition builds. Then you say take a real tough stand and say that you support marraige. Then you make your opponents seem less than human, or a threat, or weak, or black, or less white, or gay, or leaches or whatever and all of a sudden you cobble together a coalition of rich people who benefit from GOP rule and then Christian Evangelicals, gun-toting nut jobs, authoritarians, racists, rednecks, homophobes and other morons and you are a competitive party.

If conservatives ever agreed that liberals were at a minimum decent, law abiding, patriotic Americans who just hold a different view of the world they could never get elected.

So shut your lib pie hole you commie pinko, San Francisco bath house, blame America first, 2nd Amendment hatin’, welfare queen, defeat-o-crat, scum bag who ought be wiped off the face of the earth.

RWNJIFG

By Paul

May 2, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

JP

I stopped listening to Hannity a long time ago. He exemplifies to me the “shout down” concept - very, very similar to Olbermann’s style, but face to face - but he usually prefaces his points with “do you still beat your wife” type questions like “Is it a good thing freed people from rape rooms, torture chambers, etc etc” (as if that justifies military action - world, here we come) or “we don’t have an oil consumption problem” (oh, really? It’s just production, eh?). I stumbled across Savage once - ten minutes was all it took to keep scanning the dial. At least BOR regularly denounces “the haters on the Right”).

A fair number of “conservatives” I know disavow Savage-types but quote from Hannity, so I guess they distinguish “credibility.” In the interest of family relations I usually just listen.

Lots of the namecalling of BOR I hear are stuff like “Fred, you’re such a putz!” Not to minimize it - I overlook a lot of the surface stuff, just like with some of the posters here, good points beneath the surface - but I find that entirely different than “Bush and his sniveling, cowardly Repugnant criminal friends.” That’s a bit much.

I would like to hear the definitions of the criteria - what is a “propaganda device?” from the survey you cited. And maybe, instead of Coughlin, replace with Olbermann or Franken. A bit different result?

Didn’t listen much to the “Fairness” debate. I’m generally skeptical when the word “Fair” is invoked.

Both liberals and conservatives have their showmen. I guess it’s what sells. I’ll go to the shows that have interesting ideas or topics not discussed elsewhere. And try to concentrate on the message, not the messenger (Stewart and Colbert are in a different category altogether - comedy and satire).

Really, why have avowed liberals had such a difficult time getting their message out on radio or TV? Air America took the ideological route and went bankrupt. Cable shows - those posing as “news” - generally finish mid-pack or lower in the ratings. I think it’s a worthwhile question -

By bon scott

May 2, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

You know what’s wrong with this blog, and the US in general? NOBODY is willing to debate or compromise. I see this in the handful of wingnuts (like Dull) here, but we moderates aren’t immune from this flaw.

From the Washington Post:

President Bush’s veto of the Iraq funding bill returns the debate over the war to square one. The question for Democratic congressional leaders and the White House is how far is each side willing to push the fight over legislating a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

{{Do Democrats take John Edwards’s suggestion, as relayed in his new campaign ad, and “send [Bush] the same bill again and again”? Or should Democrats and Republicans in Congress work with the White House to find some sort of solution that isn’t likely to give either side a complete political victory?}}

{{A Pew Research Center poll released on April 26 suggests that the American public favors the Edwards approach, with each side standing their ground rather than compromising.}}

Too bad. When I lived and worked in DC in the ’80s and early ’90s, Democrats and Republicans who used to spend days blasting opponents on the floors of the House and Senate would get together at night for friendly penny ante poker, pizza, beer and ways to compromise.

Man, I miss those days. And I blame Newt and his neocon Bushbot decendants for smothering what once passed for civilitity in DC and the nation. You only have to read this blog for proof.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

bon scott

Agreed. People would faint if they heard some of the names of Tip O’Neill’s drinking buddies.

Regarding you last paragraph - Sen Obama addressed that very point (you’re in good intellectual company) but then hit Democrats for mimicking the very same traits and tactics they found so objectionable.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

JP,

Revolt? Now that is something I’d like to see. If you read the Declaration of Independence you would see that a revolution was had over far less reasons than people like you have been given over the last 6 years. And what have you done? Nothing. What are you going to do? Nothing. It is our reliance on your collective weakness that keeps us doing what we are doing. We know that nobody is going to raise a finger to do anything except what they are told. Besides with the law enforcment tools and techniques the government has if you were to plan to meet with one person in a corn field in the middle of Kansas to discuss revolution I’d bet you anything that the person you meet with will be a federal officer. Its over. The government has won and you have lost and you have no tools to fight back with. Sorry. The military industrial complex is in charge and it ain’t letting go.

RWNJIFG

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

{{{By bonnie scott May 2, 2007 2:30 PM You know what’s wrong with this blog, and the US in general? Or should Democrats and Republicans in Congress work with the White House to find some sort of solution that isn’t likely to give either side a complete political victory?}}}

Umm, I think what has “happened” to the United States has a lot to do with people who think the war in Iraq is some stupid political tussle.

These idiot liberals have politicized our national security and the very lives of the brave men defending us in the field.

That sucks, period.

And finchie just defined another facet of scummy pinko® liberalism.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By rushncap

May 2, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Paul — the major difference between libs and cons in the radio / tv / ideological shock troop game is that the cons have a 25 year head start. They’ve been perfecting strategies, and “softening up” the brains of their follower sheep for a good quarter century. The dividents came suddenly, but not quickly. Liberals are trying to follow suit without laying the same kind of groundwork because they don’t have the time.

I think the other major reason is that liberals are less prone to hysterics, and less prone to let others think for them. They are more drawn to either intelligent or witty outlets — like NPR, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and less to O’Reilly-esque hystrionics and screaming (a la Olbermann).

By RE

May 2, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Bush exit plan from Iraq,

Continue the surge until the end of his term and let someone else deal with it.

Estimated cost in US military lives= 1470 (21 months x 70 lives per month)

Estimated cost in US combat injuries= 10500 (21 months x 500 injuries per month)

Estimated cost in dollars= 218 billion (21 months x 10.4 billion per month)

Covering your own azz and letting others suffer for your ego and bad judgement= Priceless

By ABS

May 2, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott, Unfortunately, you are right…if you tried to compromise, you would just be considered “weak.” So many people (like many bloggers here) have to be right about everything, and can not admit it when they a) just don’t know something, or b) admit a mistake.

It is very sad indeed…

Hey Paul - I enjoyed your post earlier. Although I’m no Bill O fan, I wish more of the neo-cons were more like you (not that I think you are a neo-con, you strike me as a moderate), someone who can form coherent sentences without the name calling! :-)

Andy, Have you assaulted your paper carrier yet? I keep waiting to read about it in the paper.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

ABS — I’ll spare you the suspense. Li’l andy will never assault the paper carrier. He’d be too scared to. His type is very couragous when anonymously typing online. Even if he wasn’t too lazy to do so, he’d never have the guts to actually try assaulting anyone. The risk to his own well-being is far too great.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

I need a little help from my fellow bloggers:

I have asked many, many times for one of my fellow wingers to state what weapons systems they want to give the Iraqi government for defense after we win and for some reason none of them have responded. (I hate to say it but I think they fear that in answering the question, that this whole Iraq War will seem like an absurdity. I mean can you imagine US pilots getting shot down 10 years from now with US made technology. I mean if that (un)likely event were to happen it would make people like me look real damn stupid.) Of course I disagree, because if I agree with the war I must agree with all of its obvious consequences. In any event, I really, really, want a winger to reply to this. Perhaps if we all put pressure on them they will deal with this important issue.

Start calling them cowards, especially Luck, for dodging it. Since he is a winger like me I know he’ll enjoy the challenge.

RWNJIFG

By Paul

May 2, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

rushncap - 25 years is going to come and go. The only difference when we get there will be - did people begin planning and invest the time to achieve their objectives, or not?

ABS

Thanks. I think. The characterization comes from forming an opinion based on only a couple issues. Someone called me a neocon, or wingnut, or something like that, I asked it they’d like to consider their political label and the one they bestowed upon me when it comes to primary and secondary education. As in Federalize it. Teacher hiring, accreditation, main point curriculum, etc. Give kids in Kentucky the same resources as Knob Hill. It’s amazing how conservative some liberals become when it comes to tinkering with their hometown school system.

Labels. Don’tcha’ just love ‘em?

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

{{{By rushncrap May 2, 2007 2:51 PM ABS — I’ll spare you the suspense. Li’l andy will never assault the paper carrier. He’d be too scared to. His type is very couragous when anonymously typing online. Even if he wasn’t too lazy to do so, he’d never have the guts to actually try assaulting anyone. The risk to his own well-being is far too great.}}}

1) I said I would throw something back at the little punkas-s pinko litter bug or I was going to dump my trash out in front of the Urinal’s building.

When did I say I would assault anyone, is it all you liberals can think about, close contact between two males?

Sick mofo’s.

2) Coming from a coward teacher blissfully sheltered on a college campus for who knows how many years, that is too afraid to approach a living, breathing female, so instead beats his meat while viewing paper mates, I take your insult with out very much concern.

I always consider the source first.

Cowards.

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By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job May 2, 2007 2:53 PM I have asked many, many times for one of my fellow wingers to state what weapons systems they want to give the Iraqi government for defense after we win and for some reason none of them have responded.}}}

nut hugger: A true wingnut would know this answer and would not have to whine like a collicky little baby about it, like you are.

You are a total disappointment to the cause, you should be ashamed that we have to carry you like you are some kind of pervert weakling liberal.

Coward.

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By rushncap

May 2, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Paul — I’m not sure what your philosophical musing means in this context. I was simply trying to respond to the practical question of “why isn’t left-wing radio / TV doing as well as right wing?”. That’s all.

P.S. I see li’l andy still thinks I read his posts. LOL.

By ABS

May 2, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Paul, Yeah, labels are great aren’t they. What kills me is that most people over generalize about everything and the stereotypes are really crazy. The liberals call the neo-cons liars and the neo-cons call the liberals liars…it just goes round and round. It really is how you view the world and as long as you can come up with a coherent and logical explanation, then I think you have more credibility — even if you happen to disagree. One day I’m going to write my manifesto of what my opinion is between Republicans and Democrats….

You are soooooooo right about education too!

Rushncap…you are too funny.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Luck,

I apologize for asking again and I understand that the question raises concern that I may be new to the cause, but I really don’t know the answer. You seem to suggest that the answer is obvious, so enlighten me and the rest of us. I’m afraid that your response just looks like another dodge. Perhaps even, forgive me for saying so, a cowardly dodge.

RWNJIFG

By mk

May 2, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

So much anger, So much name calling, They must really be scared and small

By Paul

May 2, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Just meant that if the Republican “success” can be traced back to groundwork laid 25 years ago, then the time for the opposition to start is now. But I reread you post and saw your comment that “liberals don’t have the time” to mean not that they can’t be bothered but that they think things are too dicey to let 25 years go by.

By ABS

May 2, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Andy, calm down….are you stalking me? From your deductions…you missed one important thing, or maybe you didn’t, maybe you are just trying to insult me back by calling me a lesbian.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Paul — yes, that is exactly what I mean. I think a lot of us feel that our nation is in enough peril, from both domestic and foreign sources, that laying low for a few decades does not seem like an option. That being said, I do think that we need to work on both long-term and short-term strategies if we want America to keep progressing.

ABS — thanks!

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job May 2, 2007 3:17 PM You seem to suggest that the answer is obvious, so enlighten me and the rest of us.}}}

O.K. I’ll change your diaper.

The 3rd infantry division for the next ten years?

USAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA.

{{{By ABS May 2, 2007 3:21 PM Andy, calm down….are you stalking me?}}}

Dude, I wish I knew where I even addressed you.

(I saw something like this^^ in a movie once, the freak was played by Glenn Close. I hope this as-shole isn’t serious.)

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

{{{By rushncap

May 2, 2007 3:11 PM

P.S. I see li’l andy still thinks I read his posts. LOL.}}

rushncap,

Just out of curiousity - how did you “see” that without reading his post?

Hey, since you’re a brilliant/sarc scientist, what do you think of this article that debunks global warming by Alexander Cockburn of The Nation?

I like this line:

As Hertzberg says, water in the form of oceans, snow, ice cover, clouds and vapor “is overwhelming in the radiative and energy balance between the Earth and the sun…. >>>>>>Carbon dioxide and the greenhouse gases are, by comparison, the equivalent of a few farts in a hurricane.<<<<<<<<<

I gather you’re familiar with the work of Milutin Milankovitch, who is cited here:

{{{We’re warmer now because today’s world is in the thaw following the recent ice age. Ice ages correlate with changes in the solar heat we receive, all due to predictable changes in the Earth’s elliptical orbit round the sun and in the Earth’s tilt. As Hertzberg explains, the clinical heat effect of all of these variables was worked out in great detail between 1915 and 1940 by Milutin Milankovitch, a giant of twentieth-century astrophysics. In past post-glacial cycles, as now, the Earth’s orbit and tilt give us more and longer summer days between the equinoxes.}}}

Things aren’t looking good for the Goreacles.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

{{{The Democratic-controlled House failed Wednesday to override President Bush’s veto of an Iraqi war spending bill with timetables for troop withdrawals. Lawmakers went directly to the White House to talk about a new version.}}}

Grovel before the Bush Master, you sniveling Cowards.

Open wide so he can “shove it down your throats,” hahahaha.

Enjoy!

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Sailor

May 2, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Andi/e chuggalugged my manmeat this weekend, and all the goo that goes with it.

She’s something!

A coward, until it comes to trouser trout, then s/he’s a real champ.

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

MassenDull and Buy Danish,

One of you believes that the GOP will win back both Congress and the White House in 2008 while the other denies the human impact of global warming despite OVERWHELMING evidence.

There is seriously no way possible for people to be so obtuse and dillusional. getalife must be right…you guys must be getting paid to post outlandish shhit!

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Muffin — I read half of li’l andy’s post that came right after mine. That’s the first thing of his I’ve read in over a week.

The Cockburn article? Other than the fact that I can’t read more than 2 paragraphs (subscription required), I decided to check on the author of it. Here is what Wikipedia has to say about this man: “Alexander Claud Cockburn (pronounced kōbɜːn, “co-burn”), born June 6, 1941, is a self-described radical Irish journalist who has lived and worked in the United States since 1973.” In other words, the man is about as qualified to write definitive pieces on climatology as he is to perform open-heart surgery. I have a suggestion: next time you need a surgery or legal advise, why don’t you call him? And if you don’t, then you’ll understand why I don’t give a flying fart what he thinks about global warming.

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

steve-o

They are paid posters, or bored hacks with dead imaginations just playing adolescent games.

They contradict themselves; sometimes they say they are good Christians, then they don’t believe they are stewards of the earth; can’t have it both ways.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

They are all RW.

He pretends to be woman.

Weird huh?

So, w said victory has been changed again.

He wants it to be the same level of violence as America.

Well, our troops will be their police and they do not car bomb, truck bomb, sniper or suicide bomber on our police in America.

I will go out on a limb here and say they are sitting ducks and there will be many more to die for this illegal occupation.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

steve-o,

Speaking of “obtuse and delusional” -

There is “overwhelming evidence” that Islamists want to create a caliphate in Iraq and use it as a base of operations to kill every American and Jew on the planet.

Anyone that they don’t manage to kill they want to force to live in Dhimmitude.

Unlike the global warming fairy tale based on computer models that don’t work, I have centuries of history and current events to back me up.

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Amen.

rushncap,

In regards to the hierarchy of qualified scientists, where do former Arabian horse show judges fit in relation to radical Irish journalists and drug-addled radio hosts?

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

And which “Islamists” would those be—the Wahabiists in Saudi Arabia or the Ayatollah in Iran?

I also have centuries of history and current events to show that Christians want to conquer the world as well.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

What are the odds that Cindy can find any quote by LuckoDull or Buy Danish saying they aren’t stewards of the Earth?

Almost as good as the odds that she ever answered my question this morning about Republicans claiming they don’t have human failings.

Cindy,

Since you claim to know exactly what my upbringing, personal life experiences, educational status, and my life achievements are how about listing them out. Let’s see if we can get you type one accurate thing today.

By the way, asking someone to back up an assertion that they have made with fact is not condescension. Call it intellectual curiosity if you wish.

By American first

May 2, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

For those who dont beleive in global warming read yesterdays Ft. Lauderdale Sun-sentinel about the drought conditions there. Anyone who has ever visited or lived in Florida know about the daily rain showers, and guess what they dont happen anymore. Think that has nothing to do with global warming?

By ABS

May 2, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

rushncap, Sorry, didn’t mean to intercept the insult Andy threw at you earlier.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Luck,

Ok. We leave the 3rd Infantry in until 2017. Great. Then what? Do we stay forever? When does it become safe to let the Iraqis have the arms they need to defend themselves? When and if that day comes, what would you be comfortable with them having?

I’m sensing that your are distancing yourself from our President because he says that we will leave an Iraq which can defend itself. You don’t seem so sure.

It seems we have 3 options:

1) Arm them before we leave. 2) Don’t arm them and leave them to internal and external enemies. 3) Stay in Iraq forever.

I know you and the President considered these questions before the war and were comfortable with the answers then, so pleaseshare them with the rest of us.

RWNJIFG

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

RW If you are curious, look it up.

Most of my observations are based on experience, not what I copy from someone else.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Try this alternate link. I don’t know why it’s not working for you, since I was able to view the entire article:

http://counterpunch.org/cockburn04282007.html

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

That’s just it. I can’t look it up because you are lying.

Now finish telling me my life story please.

By RE

May 2, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

I can tell you the drought is pretty bad down here in FT Lauderdale.

The canals are 2-3 feet under what they should be, Lake Okachobee is within 1 foot of it’s all time low.

The rainy season usually hits later on in the summer, I would not chalk this drought up to global warming, but it ain’t so good right now.

By Hey, Moron

May 2, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

See if you see paralles between this official report of the latest Israel/Lebonon conflict and Iraq:

a. The decision to respond with a military strike was not based on a detailed, comprehensive and authorized military plan, based on study of the complexities of the Lebanon arena. An examination of these characteristics would have revealed: the ability to achieve military gains having significant political-international weight was limited; an Israeli military strike would lead to missiles fired at the civilian north; there was no other effective military response to such missile attacks than a prolonged ground operation to capture the areas from which the missiles were fired - at a high “cost” and which did not enjoy broad support. These difficulties were not raised with the political leaders before the decision to strike.

b. Consequently, in making the decision to go to war, the government did not consider the whole range of options, including that of continuing the policy of ‘containment’, or combining political and diplomatic moves with military strikes below the ‘escalation level’, or military preparations without immediage military action - so as to maintain for Israel the full range of responses to the abduction. This failure reflects weakness in strategic thinking, which derives the response to the event from a more comprehensive and encompassing picture.

c. The support in the cabinet for this move was gained through ambiguity in the presentation of goals and modes of operation, so that ministers with different or contradictory attitudes could support it. The ministers voted for a vague decision, without understanding its nature and implications. They authorized to commence a military campaign without considering how to exit it.

d. Some of the declared goals of the war were not clear and could not be achieved, and in part were not achieveable by the authorized modes of military action.

e. The IDF did not exhibit creativity in proposing alternative action possibilities, did not alert the political decision-makers to the discrepancy between its own scenarios and the authorized modes of action, and did not demand - as was necessary under its own plans - early mobilization of the reserves so they could be equipped and trained in case a ground operation would be required.

f. Even after these facts became known to the

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Here’s another source on DiFi the corrupt.

The problems stem from her subcommittee activities from 2001 to late 2005, when she quit. During that period the public record suggests she knowingly took part in decisions that eventually put millions of dollars into her husband’s pocket — the classic conflict of interest that exploited her position and power to channel money to her husband’s companies.

By Hey, Moron

May 2, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

con’t.

f. Even after these facts became known to the political leaders, they failed to adapt the military way of operation and its goals to the reality on the ground. On the contrary, declared goals were too ambitious, and it was publicly states that fighting will continue till they are achieved. But the authorized military operations did not enable their achievement.

By ABS

May 2, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, I think the only thing that article means is that Cockburn doesn’t personally believe in global warming…despite all the overwhelming scientific data to the contrary.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

You again ignore the simple point I made, Muffin: your Cockburn is no more qualified to speak on climatology than you, and less so than even me. And I would never dare to write an article on climatology, because my knowledge in the area is far too scant. Yours and his are below that. Can you explain to me why I should waste my time? I mean other then the fact that you happen to parrot his views.

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

I am not a liar. That’s why I usually don’t acknowledge you neocon people; you only believe people like coulter

( “God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, ‘Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.’” ) Statements like this tell me a lot about her followers and those who sing her praises.

By Midori

May 2, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

you’re a shrewd one.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I read you stupid comments, but since you couldn’t access the article you were perhaps ignoring the fact that he draws his conclusions from scientists (and common sense).

Now, if we’re going to use your argument that Cockburn is not qualified to discuss Global Warming, then what pray tell are Al Gore’s scientific credentials?

Further, if you’re going to use that reasoning, then you are not qualified to b!tch about the war in Iraq.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

At the very start of this conversation you said that most Republicans go around saying they don’t have human faults and that’s why you like to ridicule them when a story about a human failing comes out. That’s a good indication that you mean public figures, yet rather then come up with a single quote to back your claim you have pointed to someone admitting a human fault, told me to go live in the Johnston neighborhood, told tales of my life of privilege, told me to go back up your claim and know say I only listen to Coulter when I’m specifically asking for proof and information from you. If you truly had the facts on your side you would just present them.

If you aren’t lying then you’re quite possibly a) the most stubborn person on the planet b) the most scatter brained c) the most ignorant or d) all of the above.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Muffin — Gore, in addition to having far more credentials than some journalist, never once comes up in my posts. It’s not that I believe in global warming because Gore thinks so. I believe in it because the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community thinks so. Opinions of radical Irish journalists notwithstanding.

I am qualified to b!tch about the war in Iraq because it’s not a scientific matter. You do not need to be an expert to have informed opinions on current events and political policy. And since just about every expert agrees with me that Iraq is a complete disaster, I’m in pretty good company. Why isn’t your Cockburn writing articles on the Standard Model or protein dynamics, huh? Is it because his ignorant ranting in those areas is going to attract less rabid zealots to his writing?

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

RW,

I have to wonder how much time Cindy has spent in the Johnson neighborhood. She could be one of the people they are dealing drugs to, which could help explain her nonsensical thinking.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

{{{By Cindy May 2, 2007 3:50 PM They contradict themselves; sometimes they say they are good Christians, then they don’t believe they are stewards of the earth; can’t have it both ways.}}}

Cindy, dullard: My Lord and Savior has never taught that we need to kill a million poor people a year so that elite slobbering liberals in America won’t feel guilty about their car exhaust.

And what does your god say about that?

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{{{By nut job in full insanity May 2, 2007 4:11 PM Luck, Ok. We leave the 3rd Infantry in until 2017. Great. Then what? Do we stay forever?}}}

nut hugger: See Kuwait.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

However many of you there may be.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By IN THE NEWS

May 2, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Bush’s Definition Of Iraq Success Called ‘Naive’ By Cheney And ‘Frightening’ By Giuliani

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

It is amusing to see you attack a well known and oft-cited left wing writer for the left wing Nation magazine.

I don’t care whether you personally cite Gore - everyone else on your side does and they use his arguments and his fraud of a movie to spread global warming theory - such as true believers like the Warming Sisters, Sheryl Crowe and Laurie David, who assaulted Karl Rove last week.

As for “consensus” since when is that science?

By getalife

May 2, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Yahoo RW,

There are many conflict of interests now in Washington.

cheney- haliburton is one of the biggest.

At least she resigned but it is still wrong.

Now, bring back the Andy personality.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I’m still awaiting the news on how Cindy claims to know my entire life story since she only speaks from experience.

Did you see the new trend to replace the Bible with the Goreacle’s propoganda?

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Muffin — what exactly do you know about “science”? Other than nothing, anything at all?

I read Cockburn’s article. Amusing. Mildly. Irrelevant, mostly. If his best sources are a retired engineer who still “consults from time to time” and an astrophysicist who stopped working more than 65 years ago, his arguments are in trouble, at the very least. Your side still desperately wants the laws of physics to not hold because they might hurt business. Sorry, as a physicist I’m not buying that. As an idiot, you seem to be.

By steve-o

May 2, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

{{{By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

{{{By Cindy May 2, 2007 3:50 PM They contradict themselves; sometimes they say they are good Christians, then they don’t believe they are stewards of the earth; can’t have it both ways.}}}

Cindy, dullard: My Lord and Savior has never taught that we need to kill a million poor people a year so that elite slobbering liberals in America won’t feel guilty about their car exhaust.

And what does your god say about that?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.}}}

MassenDull,

YOU have a lord and savior?

By @@

May 2, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it amazing how some families deal with their loss?

I won’t post the last name, but Nicola was a Canadian who served in Afghanistan:

(((Family of fallen soldier Nicola honour her birthday with gift of light)))

(((Under the program, solar-powered lighting systems will replace hazardous kerosene lamps in nearly 2,000 first-aid posts across the island nation. In a country close to the equator, it is dark 12 hours a day - each and every day - which makes the gift unique.)))

(((“A lot of the aid posts operate simply from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. If somebody comes at 6 p.m., they would say ‘Sorry,’ because there are no lighting fixtures to administer medical treatment,” he said.)))

(((“There’s not been one set of parents or friends of the fallen soldiers who has not believed, as we believed, and Nicola believed, that they were doing the right thing and they were there doing good work,” said Nicola’s father, who has met many other grieving parents across the country.)))

Al Qaeda can take her life, but they can’t extinguish “the light” that serves others.

People never cease to amaze me…

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Luck,

What in the hell does “See Kuwait” mean? Bush said that Iraq would be able to defend itself. We know Kuwait can’t and won’t. They are a military welfare state. So WTF are you saying? Are you calling the President a liar. Again, he said Iraq would be able to defend itself. How does he expect that to happen without weapons?

RWNJIFG

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Solar powered lighting, @@??? Oh no, heresy! The Goracle got to them!! Liberal pinko anti-business anti-American pro Al Qaeda bastards! Solar??? They should have installed diesel lighting, preferably made out of the carcasses out of some endangered animals. THAT would show our enemies we mean business.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job in full drag May 2, 2007 5:06 PM What in the hell does “See Kuwait” mean? Bush said that Iraq would be able to defend itself. We know Kuwait can’t and won’t.}}}

nut hugger: Look, I’m not interested in playing whack job word games with you or going for a swim in the fever swamp.

You said “what about after ten years.”

Kuwait has been a free, highly successful country for the last ten years, no one has attacked them.

Is this all too much for you?

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By getalife

May 2, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

RWNJIFG,

They gave up on the Iraqi army and government. They do not bother to show up.

Now, we are their police.

Sitting ducks.

By Iran to the Rescue

May 2, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has extended $1 billion in credits for reconstruction projects in Iraq, a senior official said Tuesday ahead of an international conference on stabilizing Iraq.

Muslim read on this story: Kind and benevolent Iran steps bravely in to save and protect Iraq from the mad infidel dogs from the USA who savagely destroyed peaceful Iraq in order to steal their oil.

….and WHO gave the world that impression of America???

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

“Iran to the rescue”: to answer your question — Bush & Co.

By @@

May 2, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Go away rushncap…I’ve found something else that AMAZES me.

Obama Camp Takes Control of MySpace Page

(((For the past two and a half years, the page has been run by an Obama supporter from Los Angeles named Joe Anthony. At first, that arrangement was fine with the Obama team, which worked with Anthony on the content and even had the password to make changes themselves.)))

(((But as the site exploded in popularity in recent months, the campaign became concerned about an outsider having control of the content and responses going out under Obama’s name and told Anthony they wanted him to turn it over.)))

(((In this new frontier of online campaigning, it’s hard to determine the value of 160,000 MySpace friends—about four times what any other official campaign MySpace page has amassed. But the Obama campaign decided they wouldn’t pay $39,000, which is what Anthony said he proposed for his extensive work on the site, plus some additional fees up to $10,000.)))

(((MySpace reluctantly stepped in to settle the dispute and decided that Obama should have the rights to control.)))

(((Anthony referred The Associated Press to his MySpace blog, where he has written that he is heartbroken that the Obama campaign was “bullying” him out of the page he built. He said the candidate has lost his vote.)))

Oh, BTW rushncap I also read an article that said GOP candidates were receiving contributions from Hollywooders.

Ed Norton, Jr. is an awesome actor, but I don’t know how smart he is.

He contributed to Obama.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

@@ — is there a reason for your Hollywood fetish? Look, I don’t care which actor contributed to whom. Get that through your head.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

I gather from @@’s comment it’s to honor a fallen member of the Canadian military that was fighting in the war you libs pretend to support. Can’t you let anything go without one of your ridiculous outbursts? Grow up jerk.

By Daniel

May 2, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

William F. Buckley Jr. in a recent article titled: “The Waning of the GOP” writes: “It is simply untrue we’re making progress in Iraq”.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Stalk, go do your gathering in silence. I know what the article was about. When I want a clarification from you, I’ll ask you. Until then, spare me.

By @@

May 2, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

I GOT IT rushncap, but you do seem to have your own fetish for the “Glove” errr…Danny.

You really know nothing about the “human connection” do you rushncap?

You are either “vegetable”, “mineral” or “animal”. You’re just not “human”.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

Its not hate on Hollywood, she “spurns” the ones who donate to liberals.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

RW,

I saw that Gideon Bible exchange story! Global warming is a religion.

Regarding Cindy, she assumes an awful lot, which explains why she is a liberal.

It occurs to me that instead of you your risking your life by spending time in a drug infested neighborhood,(to prove what exactly?) she should spend some time cruising around in a police cruiser to see what the much-disparaged cops are up against day in and day out.

rushncap,

I am not a scientist, but I do have common sense. More poignantly, I am not the politically motivated person who is indoctrinating the modern world into believing in a fairy tale that conveniently pumps money into a “carbon offset” scam, err, company.

As for your complaint that the astrophysicist “stopped working 65 years ago”, as I recall Newton died a very long time ago and Einstein died in 1955, so your point is?????

I thought science was science and outlived the career or the scientist.

Which brings me to the “consensus” word. Other than Global Warming, where is “consensus” used to claim that a scientific theory if proven?

By Paul

May 2, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Daniel 5:30

I don’t think Iraq will be the Republicans’ Waterloo. If the Republican nominee separates himself from Bush Administration policies in Iraq, yet still enunciates a clear message against jihadists, and signals a return to policies to limit spending, bureaucracy, and gets points in whose lack of action irritate many voters (environment, immigration) then we may see a Republican in ‘08.

Especially if Edwards is the nominee. Many will identify with his anti-Iraq stance (especially the hard Left of the Democratic Party) - but his appeal (at least so far) among the greater populace doesn’t bode well for a Nov victory.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadical May 2, 2007 5:17 PM ….and WHO gave the world that impression of America???}}}

Let’s see here, Iran is fixing to get rid of their loony leader, revert the government back to a secular democracy, give billions to develop Iraq which I doubt they will want to blow up anymore and Spammie is worried about what America looks like.

Hahahahaha, what an as-swipe.

Your looking defeat square in the face, antiRadical, you Al Qaeda and gitmo, losers.

USAUSAUSAUSAUSA.

Iran is pleading mercy from the great Bush Master, look at them grovel^^.

Soon he will have you on your knees too.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Luck,

I see. Since Kuwait hasn’t been attacked in over ten years you can infer that Iraq won’t be attacked either. I wonder if Iraq will pass on having an army with that sort of evidence on their side.

I see how you can infer that since some countries haven’t been attacked that other countries won’t be attacked, (I’m sure that India is disarming based on the Switzerland experience), but there are difference between Kuwait and Iraq. One would be the level of internal threats. Two would be the sectarian alleigance that Iran has with the vast majority of Iraqis. In fact, Iran and Iraq had an 8 year war not too long ago, but you are confident that there will be no repeat b/c Kuwait hasn’t been attacked?

I’m thinking maybe you are on some sort of bad meds. Either that are you are recovering from a recent labotomy.

RWNJIFG

By @@

May 2, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Dang Getalife, I don’t care who they donate to, I just don’t view them as “FAMOUS” like rushncap.

I’m not that simple-minded.

The article also said the guy who produces the Sopranos contributes to both party’s candidates. Smart guy…he hedges his bets.

I’m just guessing, but I think James Gandolfini? fino? is a conservative.

“T” Now that’s my kinda guy. I would never “spurn” Tony.

By Hey, Moron

May 2, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Luck, we don’t want to hear about your sexual fantasies about getting on your knees for the President. That is just disgusting. Also, are you suggesting that Iran go back to the secular democracy that the US overthrew in ‘58?

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Yes, I am an elder lady with lots of experience. I learned to be a steward of the earth many years ago as I was earning my undergraduate degree at a Christian college in the Midwest. (I admit I don’t have a lot of experience with these “liberal” colleges the neocons are always attacking.)

To paraphrase Paul, show me why I should vote Republican. It is the attitude of RW, BD and Andy that makes me want to puke when I hear Republican. I would not want to be associated with evil, nasty backbiting people like them. Unfortunately, Republicans are much better people than these fascist neocons; but these folks give them a really bad name. My roots are Republican, but experiencing this crazed bunch makes me glad I grew up, experienced life outside my own sheltered backyard and became enlightened.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job in full drag May 2, 2007 5:42 PM Luck, I see. Since Kuwait hasn’t been attacked in over ten years you can infer that Iraq won’t be attacked either.}}}

You’re right, nut hugger, I’ll bet Iran is going to spend billions in Iraq so that they can blow it all up.

Why didn’t I think of that?

And Syria is such a ferocious country, don’t they just make you want to get under the bed?

Coward.

You’re gonna hate 08®.

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By Dusty

May 2, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Nothng has changed here.

It is still rushncap, the big “r” in three words; rude, rabid, and resentful.

@@, that was a good story about the Canadian who was killed. Her family made a fine contribution. I like to hear the stories about people of goodwill in these times. They aren’t reported very often.

By the way, has anyone heard reports on Baby Noe? I hope she is OK.

By RE

May 2, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

“Let’s see here, Iran is fixing to get rid of their loony leader, revert the government back to a secular democracy, give billions to develop Iraq which I doubt they will want to blow up anymore and Spammie is worried about what America looks like.”

Isn’t this the guy who goes on and on about Feverswamps.

It must be nice to be this detatched from reality.

By Jesus

May 2, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Dick Morris had a good email column today about the dilemma Obama faces on a compromise bill regarding Iraq. Basically it’s that he has the “I was anti-war first” thing going for him which keeps Edwards from getting by him. He figures Hillary will keep her hawkish facade by going for funding without all the strings attached. He thinks if Obama goes with her position it opens up the left for Edwards and gives him most of the anti-war support and quite possibly the nomination.

He didn’t mention it, but I think Obama will vote against it because of all the flak he took for saying that after a veto they would send a clean bill.

As usual I guess it comes down to how the real polling comes down on the veto after we get treated to a few stories saying we already hate it the pollsters will go to work.

rushncap,

Quit hiding your comments behind Daniella’s skirt. If you don’t like my comments pretend not to read them like you pretend not to read Andy’s.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Luck,

You really must be suffering under some sort of mental disease. You are at a minimum delusional.

Are you saying that since Iran is investing billions in Iraq they aren’t a threat to Iraq? Or at a least a threat to what we want Iraq to be? If so, then you are saying that we are on the same side as Iran on the issue of Iraq.

You really are deranged. I’d seek some professional help. I don’t think Iran is spending billions for the reason that you think they are. I think they are making a down payment on influencing the entire country since 60% of Iraqis share the same religion.

You really ought to turn off th eradio and buy a good history book. It’d do you some good.

RWNJIFG

By getalife

May 2, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

@@,

They are famous worldwide.

“T” was a con but am guessing he has wised up.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

{{{By Cindy May 2, 2007 5:49 PM I grew up, experienced life outside my own sheltered backyard and became enlightened.}}}

Yeah, I can remember when the gays were running around calling themselves “enlightened,” that lasted about a week.

So, Cindy, “Republican” “Christian,” you’re good with keeping the 3rd world from becoming industrialized, raising their longevity and improving their quality of life, eh?

Couple million dead Africans ain’t no skin off of your back, is it?

Cause that’s exactly what you libs got planned for them, death, when you clamp down on energy production.

You will join the ranks of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and you know what, I bet you’re beaming with pride right now just thinking of that.

Sick, sick, sick.

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By Right-wing nut job in full glory

May 2, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

You are right. We don’t seem to get the feel good stories. I mean when they give us one like Pat Tillman then people complain that it was a lie as if that was the point. The story made millions of people feel good about being Americans and that’s really all that matters isn’t it?

RWNJIFG

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

I don’t know about the rest, Andy, but Hitler was a conservative. That is a group I am against.

You know, if many Africans could use solar power instead of oil, they would be able to have more enery than they do now.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Interesting. Hillary keeps looking more and more like a pretzel. Obama - let’s see how he plays this, in light of what you wrote. He made a real effort (as did Hillary) to portray himself as firm with terrorists, separating that from Iraq. That may be a Democrat/Republican theme (well, for half the Democratic candidates, anyway). Edwards illustrates, to me, the dangers of popularity among the hardcore of the party, who exclude others for lack or ideological purity, then think that’s how the country thinks, too.

Notice not a lot of talk on “social/personal” issues among Republicans, and how it’s Democrats who try to keep the issue alive? I may be off on that, but it seems there’s not the emphasis there was 4/8 years ago.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

My, my you are full of yourself aren’t you!

You exemplify the word “elite” as used by conservatives, which doesn’t mean that you are more educated or more intelligent (which you clearly are not) but that you are so convinced of your own moral and intellectual superiority that you think you think you know not only the life stories of fellow bloggers, but you think you know how they should best lead their lives!

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

{{{By RE May 2, 2007 5:52 PM It must be nice to be this detatched from reality.}}}

REtard: FO.

I don’t have time to torment you, this is a blessed day and I’m in too good of a mood to sink into sadistic cruelty.

We busted Iran’s as-s out, Imawhackjob is in “hot water” because of a “kiss,” yeah right, they’re fixing to stone his as-s to death. He’s too much trouble and he brings nothing but trouble.

No one wants their developed country to be turned into some prehistoric medieval cave dwelling, which is what the world will do to Iran if they don’t pipe down on the holocaust rhetoric.

They are fixing to rejoin civilization, whether it’s by choice or not, I couldn’t care less.

It means we win.

USAUASAUSAUSAUSA.

And you lose.

Big time.

Sit back, watch your demise unfold before you and enjoy it.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By getalife

May 2, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

That is good troll stuff Andy.

Keep up the good work.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

I think it’s what you’ve built us up to in your head that you hate. Again you’re letting your version of reality interfere with real reality.

It would be healthy for you to actually discuss both sides once in a while rather than throw out absurdities and then claim it’s cruel to challenge you for proof. I guess another option would to just quit putting unsubstantiated crap.

You also ought to go back and read your 9:47 and see what a broad brush you painted your roots with. You could just admit you were wrong, but liberals never do that.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

getalife, Dusty, Right Wing

The American Idol charity raised 70 Million for aid to Africa and poor people in America. Ellen Degeneris gave a good challenge donation (one hundred grand) for some of her Hollywood friends.

They’re still taking donations -

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

{{{By Cindy May 2, 2007 6:08 PM I don’t know about the rest, Andy, but Hitler was a conservative. That is a group I am against. You know, if many Africans could use solar power instead of oil, they would be able to have more enery than they do now.}}}

Yeah, Cindy “Republican” “Christian,” you keep babbling, they keep dying.

Gee, thanks for the help.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

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By rushncap

May 2, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

Muffin, I’m gonna set aside your claim that you have “common sense”. There is too much there that can be written, but I’ll assume it was your attempt at humor, and move on.

My point about someone being cited who stopped working 65 years ago holds. If you find a single cutting-edge science paper that cites Newton or Einstein as anything more than a historical nod (i.e. first sentence of the paper) you get a cookie. No one does it, because active research fields are light years ahead of where they were decades ago. Not to mention the fact that Newton was wrong about a lot of things…

As for consensus, since I’m a physicist, off the top of my head: special relativity, general relativity, quantum mechanics, electrodynamics, BCS theory, atomic theory, Copenhagen interpretation, crystal theory, ideal gas theory… do I need to go on?

By getalife

May 2, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

RW,

Please give us your take on w’s new version of victory in Iraq?

Thank you in advance.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

@@, do even you know what you’re talking about any more? Human connection?? Are you on drugs?

Why do you care so much about Hollywood? Is your life so pathetic that you have to live vicariously through the rich and the famous? I guess I’m not surprised, but still…

Dusty — oh I’m so hurt.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Paul,

One good thing about all the early primaries is that in theory we’ll have a lot more time to flesh out the actual nominees positions on all the issues and not just get sound bites about Iraq. I say “in theory” because I’m not convinced we’ll get a nominee. With so many primaries so close together it will be pretty easy for the vote to split up and there won’t be enough delegates up for grabs in the later ones to get somebody over the top if the split is spread out enough.

This whole thing could backfire and the voters don’t get to choose the nominee at all if it goes to a brokered convention. I just love the law of unintended consequences!

By what

May 2, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

growing up in the fifties, my dad was active in the state Republican party, I do not remember this kind of vitriol and hate being spewed. Do what is best for the Nation, not your personal agendas.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

I saw that Paul.

The Bushes made an American Idol appearance and thanked them.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

RW 6:21

Kind of sounds like back to the days of machine party politics, doesn’t it?

what

Gives people a goal to work towards, doesn’t it? Obama’s tapping into that. We’ll see who else does -

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife May 2, 2007 6:12 PM That is good troll stuff Andy.}}}

You know, gitmo, the one good thing I always thought about these suicide bombings, good being not really the right word, was that there was one less suicide bomber in this world and pretty soon there would be none left.

Turn on your TV, gitmo, and stare at it, don’t blink, cause it’s gonna happen fast.

Remember how the Berlin wall fell, one day you candy as-s pinko® liberals were there calling the Soviets the rulers of the world, the next day there were no more Soviets.

Sit back and enjoy it.

I am.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

USAUSAUSAUSAUSA.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

getalife 6:23

Oh yeah! What was that line?

George “Maybe they want me to sing?”

Laura “No, dear, they’ve heard you read.”

Got a good laugh -

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

RW,

First I said nothing of hate. Yes, your neocon demonstrations on this site may indeed have influenced my attitude toward neocons.

Honey, I have heard the neocons claim their moral superiority for some years; it is not an absurdity. I did back that up.

As for your 3rd comment, my 9:47 ? roots? I have to admit I don’t follow that.

BD, I know I am not smarter than many, many people. I do know I am smarter than Bush on many topics.

I never claimed to know anybody’s life story, but I have experienced a background that grows ultra conservative thinking.

Sometimes life experiences teach a person a lot more than do priveleged writers and hacks.

Call it full of myself or knowledge; a rose by any name.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Please give me a credible link to this new position. I’ve been looking through old photo albums trying to find out what Cindy knows and all I’ve seen about it is you slobbering it all over the AJC blogs.

By what

May 2, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Would be and could be a better world if we got back to the basics, me thinks!

By Daniel

May 2, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Paul: That’s Buckley’s view. I would hope that whomever arises he/she tells us the truth. My gut tells me that Petraeus is going to surprise a few people. We are in Iraq longer than the Second War. Sheehan said he couldn’t find anyone who could articulate a coherent plan. So, he turned down the job of war czar. In my opinion the handwriting is on the wall. The war is lost. We’re going through the motions. The American people have had it. Politicians will be looking to save their a**es. Why not let the Iraqi’s fight their Civil War? As one side emerges we align ourselves with the victor.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

How do you define “cutting edge”? Is Darwin cutting edge enough for you? After all, we’re “light years” ahead of where we were when he came up with his theories, aren’t we?

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

What, I remember those days.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Dear, I don’t doubt that you can’t keep up, but you said at 5:49PM your roots were Republican and back at 9:47AM you took a broad brush of slander to Republicans. Ergo a broad brush to your roots.

What have I ever said that makes you think I’m a neocon? Do you even know what that means?

Never mind, those are too tough. Tell us your favorite board games.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Muffin, idiot, no one cites Darwin in modern papers either. God damn you’re one dense blob of protoplasm.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Laura said, “No, they’ve seen you dance.”

By @@

May 2, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

(((@@, do even you know what you’re talking about any more? Human connection??)))

I do.

Yesterday I linked to a story about soldiers in Iraq “INTERRACTING” with the community…Iraqis…that’s PEOPLE to other human beings.

You, rushncap, fixated on the “candy”.

Today’s story was about how a family continued the legacy of their “DAUGHTER” to help other “PEOPLE”.

You focused on an “energy source”.

You behave like a child in tantrum. You’re very “narcissistic”. Devoid of a “human connection” outside yourself.

A child in constant tantrum.

I remember when I first encountered you here. I wish I had saved your post. It went something like this:

I HATE I HATE I HATE I HATE!!!!!!!!!!!! Literally, rushncap. That’s ^^^ what you posted.

By RE

May 2, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish: Casting doubt on evolution by example.

By Daniel

May 2, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Cindy: Yours is a thoughtful analysis. You see things very clearly. Years ago I sensed the republican party was hijacked by the right-wing. I am a senior. Our America has thrived under the two party system. Yet, the current crop of self absorbed neo-cons can’t get out of their own way. America has been hurt very dearly. I think we can set it right again. It’s going to take a lot of work.

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Yes, RW, that was my point. I have experienced it enough to make the comment. And thanks for the cheap shot, it just brings out what kind of person you are.

By LuckoDull

May 2, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

{{{Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been accused of indecency after he publicly embraced and kissed on the hand an elderly woman who used to be his schoolteacher. Mr Ahmadinejad’s action appeared to be a public gesture of humility before Iranian teachers, who have publicly protested against low salaries and accused the Government of not doing enough to improve their work conditions.}}}

This dude is done, he violated the “will of allah” so that he could suck up to the teacher’s union, hahaha.

Some dictator he is.

You’re witnessing the end of a crack pot’s rule the good way, before a million people get killed for his idiocy.

By the way, I think what McCain was singing was, bye, bye, bye.. bye, bye Iran.

Yes, bye.

You’re gonna hate 07®.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

If it’s your roots you hate why take it out on us?

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

@@, when you can type up a post with less that 50% cutesy quotation mark “witticisms”, I’ll respond. Hell, if you post anything of value, I’ll respond. But go to town psychoanalyzing me. You’re getting boring.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Civilization has always had moral guidelines, that have nothing to do with a sense of “superiority”, just with advancing concepts of right and wrong that benefit society as a whole.

By moral superiority I refer to the belief in ideas like Global Warming which makes you feel so superior for believing in, or any of the countless other failed liberal ideas - like the welfare state - which make you feel so much sweeter and kinder than the rest of us because your intentions are so adorable while those of us who disagree and point out how disastrous it is, are portrayed as selfish ogres.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Allow me to revise and extend my 6:42.

Cindy,

I don’t think that was a cheap shot at all. I’ve asked you all day for examples of what you post and you come up with all sorts of strange obfuscations like sending me to live in a crack house. Why should I have thought you were going to answer the neocon question?

I think it’s a much cheaper shot for you to come up with a fantasy life for me and cheapen my true life experiences by claiming your fantasy version is my reality.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

Daniel 6:31

Military (Army/Marine Corps) are well into rewriting Doctrine regarding this style of warfare. Ralph Peters wrote a book, late 90’s, part of it called for the Army to split into two main parts - warfighters and a civil/political/social reconstruction corps. That was about as well received as a hooker at a church pot luck dinner. Who knows, maybe it’ll get addressed this time around.

Then again, maybe it’s not such a great idea. Someone may just want to try it out in a real world situation -

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

RW, I’m sorry about your life. My has been very full and rich.

By Daniel

May 2, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

Paul: Take a look at “The Sling and the Stone” An excellent book by ret. USMC Col Tom Hammes. Also, Gen Pettraeus wrote an article of his own. He said in a war like Iraq was a 1/40 ratio was needed. That is 1 Army for every 40 of the population. Now, the siituation has disintegrated so badly, nothing is going to work. America aches for the truth.

By Paul

May 2, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Thanks for the book recommendation. I’ve had some very good ones from people on this site.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

{{By rushncap

May 2, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Muffin, idiot, no one cites Darwin in modern papers either.}}

rushncap,

Thank you for clarifying that.

So you’re saying that everyone is familiar with them and the debate is over, so there’s no need to mention them?

Which brings us back to the poor old astro-physicist. Are you saying his theories have been disproven and are therefore irrelevant, or are you saying that there’s no need to repeat what everyone already knows?

Where is the “cutting edge” science in Global Warming theory? Doesn’t it require going back thousands of years into the historical record to devise these magic computer models that are meant to predict the future?

I’m looking for a little “scientific” consistency.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

Was that your idea of a cheap shot? I have had a wonderful life so far and done many interesting things, lived in many situations, and raised a family.

What does that have to do with your comment that I grew up as an elitist snob that had no life experience outside my social circle?

By @@

May 2, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

(((@@: You’re getting boring.)))

Believe me. I’ve felt the same about you for some time now.

Solution?

Don’t come knockin’.

You have this need respond to me when I’ve shown no desire to “interract” with you.

I deal with kids all day rushncap. I love it.

I have no desire to deal with you (an adult) who behaves like a child.

By Cindy

May 2, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Daniel, That’s what they teach in the Army. Those guys knew up front.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I saw what you’re calling a new definition of success. Please give me the policy paper or speech transcript where anybody in our government has ever said that the definition of success in any conflict is when you have established a crime free country. Take all night if you wish and feel free to go back as far as you want.

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this

RW,

Cindy seems to be going to a great deal of trouble to convince herself that she is a shiny, happy person who surrounds herself with shiny, happy people while you are a miserable sod.

By rushncap

May 2, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

@@, you deal every day with children, so now you’ve forgotten how to deal with adults. I don’t blame you for liking to work with them, however. At least they can’t see through your BS. I teach adults. I prefer dealing with those who have critical thinking abilities. Maybe you’ll just keep reading “People” and dreaming big dreams.

Muffin, you have absolutely no idea how scientific papers work. I’m not here to educate you on that. Many are publicly available online. You want to learn — educate yourself. I know you won’t, but don’t expect me to waste my time on that fruitless task.

By RW-(the original)

May 2, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

It does seem that everybody has to be transformed inside Cindy’s head so she can treat everyone according to her definition or image of them. You would think that someone with that kind of imagination could put a cogent thought on the board once in a while.

The sappy elderly Christian, Republican, Mid Western thing was a little much. Maybe she wants to set herself up as a Jersey girl.

Don’t forget your golf picks!

By Buy Danish

May 2, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Why should I should have to accept what Al Gore (who is not a scientist) says? You have not given me any reason why I should other than your claim that he is so very knowledgeable, despite his lack of scientific credentials.

Meterologists in great numbers disagree with the non-scientist Al Gore. How can you claim that there is “consensus”?

You’re not being consistent in whose “science” we should take seriously and why, and I don’t need to know anything about science “papers” to see that.

By getalife

May 2, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

First of all, rushncap is way above your intellect and it is painful watching him crush these idiot wingnuts.

The goal posts of w’s victory has changed so many times, it is impossible to keep up with.

Bottom line, he has given up on the Iraiqs standing up and continues to put our troops in a civil war doing their police work.

They are sitting ducks. The Dems are not caving so it will be over soon.

By @@

May 2, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

No. I haven’t forgotten how to deal with adults. I deal with the parents of my students. I reinforce the “dreams” they have for their children.

I communicate with people here.

The greater part of my day is teaching my kids “coping” skills. Something that I believe is “critical” for all people of all ages. My students’ inability to cope are inherent in their syndromes, their physical limitations, their lack of communication skills. It’s a challenge that I welcome.

You, on the other hand, are no challenge at all.

I don’t know where your “inability” to cope stems from rushncap.

There’s one thing I know for sure. You are a master of “evasion” and you think nobody sees it. I especially liked your 10:16.

The problem is….we can all see it but you’re too narcissistic to realize that.

Peek-a-boo rushncap.

I see you.

Remember what I told you? Don’t knock if you don’t want me to answer.