Mike Luckovich

By George

April 23, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

Ha Ha, cool toon but ML made Dubya too big. He is such a little man in the scheme of things.

By Mrs. Godzilla

April 23, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

I can’t complain about McCain’s song stylings. I have used that tune myself as a negative description of this administrations Iran policy.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

Realistically, we’re already at war with Iran.

AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

Let’s hear a realistic PLAN from the Democrats as to how we should deal with this threat.

Now’s the chance for the intellectual wizards on the Left to show us what you’ve got!

I’ll check back later for your brilliant solutions.

Note: Sending Pelosi over to sip tea with Ahmadinijead is not a plan.

By mountain man

April 23, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

McCain’s such a loser. He doesn’t have credibility with either liberals or conservatives. I guess he envisions himself some kind of a modern day Old Testament type prophet who is going to continue bleating out the message whether anyone is listening to him or not.

McCain’s goofy little buddy in the cartoon will be remembered as the president who couldn’t do anything right. If he was the CEO of a company he would have been dumped a long time ago. Hey, isn’t he the same guy who failed at every business management job he ever tried…?

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish - trying to convince these modern day Lindberghs and Chamberlains that we have any enemies at all is impossible. You can give them facts and film clips and even remind them that Iran’s leader is a Holocaust denier, and they will still say that all we need to do is sit down and talk with these people and they will be reasonable. Does all of this sound familiar? It should. Those were Neville Chamberlain’s words right after the Munich Agreement.

Senators Kerry, Clinton and Biden all sound like the liberal Republican appeaser from Idaho, Senator Borah who stated in September, 193: “This war could have been avoided if I had just been able to sit down and talk with Mr. Hitler.”

It’s an impossible task with people who are simply blinded by hatred - rather like catching smoke with your bare hands.

By POKER STUD

April 23, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

I believe it is Mr. Bush who is the decider.

Perhaps HE ought to come up with a realistic plan to deal with the threat of Iran.

Or is the new Neo-Con stategy to dump and run?

By Recruiter

April 23, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Poker Stud, Typical left wing answer. You guys are the ones that will run when any action is discussed. Why not give us your ideas on what to do before, rather than sit back and play monday morning QB, after actions are taken you disagree with. Buy Danish has given you the opportunity, let’s hear it, if you can.

By @@

April 23, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

I can’t say that I’ll be missing John McCain ml. He may be firm on Iraq, but I’ve always questioned his mental health. It’s been said that his “temper” at times, is on the edge of irrational.

(((At a campaign stop in South Carolina on Wednesday, the Senator answered a question about potential military action by singing “bomb Iran” to the tune of the Beach Boys song, attempting to make a joke but ultimately sounding awkward and unsure.)))

(((The remark has been fodder for liberals and the media, and for good reason. It is only the latest in a series of missteps that mark the decline of John McCain.)))

Poor John. He’s been advised by some liberal talk show gurus to “loosen up”, I guess he tried with his Bomb Iran. The same song that the liberals like to sing here.

John, John, John….”serious” concern for loose nukes is a conservative’s issue.

When you begin acting like a liberal people will have to worry about your “loose marbles”. There was no wisdom behind their advice, and no wisdom in following it.

Sorryyyyyyy. You lose.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe I’m agreeing with ML on this one. But a broken clock is right twice a day, so….

By SVN Vet

April 23, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

BD, It sure would be nice to hear their solution before any action is taken. Silly me, I keep forgetting, that would require a backbone.

By Jesus

April 23, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By @@

April 23, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

PoliFore:

You left this ?!?thought?!? for me at Wooten’s yesterday. I just saw it this morning.

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I found the “repetition” odd to say the least, but I guess when you exist in a liberal “echo chamber”, it could be considered “normal”?????????

Deeeeeep, really deeeeeeep.

By Charles Barnes III

April 23, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

ATTENTION LIBERALS—-It’s been over an hour and not one of you has even attempted to rise to the challenge Buy Danish offered. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? Or is it only to wait until someone else acts so that you can second guess them?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Charles,

BD is an idiot.

We are not at war with Iran, that is a ridiculios wingnut wet dream. They want more blood.

We are occupying Iraq for oil and the only plan is to try to get them to pass the oil law.

The idea of the wall, was shot down by Malarki.

Starting another war is insane like McLiar and w but they are the best the gop have to offer.

Pathetic.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

The plan is easy.

Do what works.

Send Richardson who would make a great Secretary of State.

By @@

April 23, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

In the absence of any responses to Buy Danish’s question, I was gonna send the liberal’s best…

Enter Sen. Reid, flopping around in big red shoes like Bozo the Clown.

But then Getalife beat him here.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

@@,

Reid: Bush in denial over war in Iraq

Boris died.

I think w is in denial with his drinking.

Is it me or is Russia getting bold?

By GEORGE BUSH

April 23, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Don’t need no democrat plan

I’m the decider

I make the tough decisions

Even if the Dems had a plan…Or say they thought we should follow the recommendations of the ISG… like maybe working towards a political solution….I wouldn’t pay attention anyway.

or would I??

Condoleezza Rice is urging Iran to join her at a high-level conference

Asking for somebody elses plan is admitting you have none.

Just like a Republican… screw it up and hope folks will clean up after you.

DUMP AND RUN REPUBLICANS

WE BROKE IT….LET THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION FIX IT

DUMP AND RUN REPUBLICANS

HAD NO PLAN TO START WITH HAS NO PLAN NOW ONLY PLAN TRY TO MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE LOOK AS STUPID AS THEY HAVE BEEN

By JP

April 23, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

BD/etc, your blustery demands for a plan illustrate several of the primary mistakes of the right that have been made thus far in the “war on terror”:

You (1) assume this is a credible threat, (2) assume “Britain and other western targets” includes the United States, and (3) (regardless of the answers to the first 2 questions) assume that we should be the ones to respond.

IF we are threatened, we beef up security at our borders and airports and ports. Duh.

Thoughts?

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

getalife,

So all we ever needed to do was send Bill Richardson to the Middle East and the world would be at peace? Wow!! I wonder why Billy Jeff didn’t think of that.

Come up with a plan dumbass or let the AJC readership see that you can’t even come close to answering the challenge.

I’ll await your and all your sniveling lib friend’s responses.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

“FEMA exposed taxpayers to significant waste — and possibly violated federal law

By N-GA

April 23, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

If the intelligence is credible (oxymoron?), then publish the intelligence and it’s sources. Then have the United Nations deal with it, initially.

And don’t tell me the UN won’t do anything. If the intelligence is REAL instead of BOGUS, they will act.

Of course I expect there is nothing REAL about this new “intelligence”.

But if Bi-Danish aspires to be a suicide bomber……

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Gunmen execute 23 members of Kurdish sect

By mountain man

April 23, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Mike must have hit the nail right on the head with this one. The wingnuts aren’t frothing at the mouth about this cartoon like they usually do.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

FDA was aware of problems at food facilities

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

In Turnabout, Infant Deaths Climb in South

By getalife

April 23, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

RW,

I was outaged over your comment on Mexican weed.

Please, only the best shunk man and it is medical.

I answered her stupid question.

This is w’s disater but we know the buck does not stop with him with the wingnuts.

The Dems will clean up his mess. Its called diplomocy and it works.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Lawmakers and experts question necessity, implications of a new nuclear weapon

By getalife

April 23, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

RW,

Oh and Hillary will make Bill tour the world to apologize for the w disaster.

Mmmm, where did I hear this idea before?

If not Hillary, the next President should use my idea.

The world loves them some Bill Clinton don’t ya think?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Out of touch Rove playing the victim:

As Ms. Crow and Ms. David described it on the Huffington Post Web site on Sunday, when Mr. Rove turned toward his table, Ms. Crow touched his arm and “Karl swung around and spat, ‘Don’t touch me.’ ” Both sides agreed that Ms. Crow told him, “You can’t speak to us like that, you work for us,” to which Mr. Rove responded, “I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.” Ms. Crow and Ms. David wrote that Ms. Crow shot back, “We are the American people.”

Those two beautiful evil liberals can touch me anytime.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

{{{By LuckoDull April 23, 2007 9:11 AM}}}

You couldn’t even hold my jockstrap, punkas-s.

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Apr. 22, 2007 Las Vegas Review-Journal EDITORIAL: Harry Reid and a ‘lost’ cause Friday morning, the majority leader returned to the Senate floor, supposedly to reiterate his Thursday comments. Yet this time Sen. Reid carefully avoided using the word “lost.” Less than 24 hours after declaring Iraq a lost cause, Sen. Reid insisted, “No one wants us to succeed in Iraq more than the Democrats.” Um … what?

Looks to me like Harry “lost” his hometown.

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Just when I thought it couldn’t get any more repulsive:

{{{This massacre does not happen to children at the tip of a Glock 19 or a 22 Caliber, but there is no medical doubt that the method used to butcher these children inflicts every bit as much pain. There are horrific stories of these children struggling violently as the cold steel penetrates the base of the skull.}}}

Be aware, if you aren’t already, that the Supreme Court ruling, while it does stop partial birth abortions, it does nothing to halt the slaughter of late term infants in their mother’s womb.

Just because you can’t see the horror, doesn’t mean it is not there.

These ghouls, these butchers will simply kill in silence, a screaming baby that you can’t hear.

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By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

{{{Gun Free Zones turn the people who inhabit such places into sitting ducks for insane whack jobs with death wishes. I know, I know, there are campus cops and security guards with plastic badges, golf carts, walkie talkies and pepper spray; however, as a soon to be father of a college student, that line of defense brings zero comfort to me if serious bullet flying $#*& starts hitting the fan in one of her classes.-Doug Giles, Townhall}}}

Which is what a liberal wants, apparently.

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{{{I have spent the better part of this tour trying to come up with easy ways for us all to become a part of the solution to global warming. Although my ideas are in the earliest stages of development, they are, in my mind, worth investigating. One of my favorites is in the area of forest conservation which we heavily rely on for oxygen. I propose a limitation be put on how many squares of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don’t want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required.}}}

The thing that scares me is think about how many idiot candy as-s liberals are sitting around this morning going, “gosh, why didn’t I think of that?” And will these “enlightened” democrat Senators act on their thoughts, force a new law upon us, the “one square for down there and our air” act, so to speak?

Or how al-Gore, upon hearing this nugget of “wisdom,” started using half a roll after every “sitting.”

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By getalife

April 23, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Andy is in denial too.

By reebok

April 23, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

This cartoon is pointless. McCain isn’t even slightly in disbelief that he made an idiotic joke…he’s decided to “Be Like W” and use stupidity to his advantage. If the Repubs want another shoot-from-the-lip candidate who is out of touch w/ reality, it looks like they’ve found their man.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

getalife,

But you weren’t bothered by the fermented Louisiana swamp water? Odd.

You DID NOT answer the question. Our service men and women are being killed by Iranian weapons. Do you care? Why is Bill the savior of the world now when he couldn’t do jack as the President for eight years?

By regulator

April 23, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

What is a Glock 19? That’d be a tough one to hit anything with.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Glock 19

By Little Right of Center

April 23, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?

This is the most interesting thing I’ve read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.”

“A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.”

“From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years”

“During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Gore: 19 Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000 Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2 Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency an

By Little Right of Center

April 23, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

{{{NEW YORK — In its quest to scale 13,000, the streaking Dow Jones industrial average has posted gains in 15 of the last 16 sessions, a feat accomplished only three times and last achieved 15 years ago. There has been only one longer winning stretch interrupted by a single down day: a 20 out of 21 bull run that ended on Aug. 2, 1927, Dow Jones Indexes says.}}}

Remember that the next time you hear a candy as-s in here whining about how bad it is, how they can’t find a job sleeping all day, how people won’t pay them to play video games, why won’t the government send a hooker by the house, why, oh, why is Bush so oppressive and so cruel and so heartless?

Waaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!

Cowards.

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By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Sheryl Crow Backstage wish list: parking for 3 tractor trailers, 4 buses, and 6 cars…

And 4 squares of toilet paper.

For those real pesky situations.

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By getalife

April 23, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

RW,

No, the water sux down here.

Your intell has a very bad record of being true.

Its your ugly credibilty thing.

Geez.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Geez Andy.

That is very lame.

I bet you are scared of her too.

Sissy like Rove, your hero.

Geez.

By regulator

April 23, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

The Bush admin. with the finest conservative neo-con minds in the country spends eight years screwing things up and Bi Danish wants liberals to figure it out and make things right in eight minutes, what an idiot.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

{{{then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.}}}

Hello, where have you been?

They want the North American Union.

Corporate has taken over our government.

Here is the kicker, Americans will still vote gop.

Geez, it a liitle late to be waking up.

By regulator

April 23, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Thanks, RW,I learned something new today.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Good point regulator.

Screw up the country and run.

By MAJOR BULLSH!T ALERT

April 23, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

LITTLE RIGHT OF CENTER IS MAJOR OFF ON FACTS

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University is not the source of any of the statistics or the text attributed to him. Professor Olson was contacted (by me) via e-mail, and he confirmed that he had no authorship or involvement in this matter. And, as Fayette Citizen editor Dave Hamrick wrote back in January 2001

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

You liberals are really something! You still have not risen to the challenge made by Buy Danish. Obviously you are very good at identifying problems but you have not one clue as to the solutions to those problems. Could it be because socialism and blind anti-American pacificism don’t work and you have figured that much out but you still have no idea what would work? Stop making inane excuses and come up with a plan or shut up and get with the plan we already have.

By WootenDull

April 23, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

{{{By getalife I bet you are scared of her too.}}}

gitmo: Scared?

Many years ago a good looking women with that little mental capacity would have been at the top of my “to do” list.

Conservatism has it’s drawbacks.

Respecting people for their, uh, whatever.

Cowards.

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By Little Right of Center

April 23, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Getaclue,

Which party is the party of governmental dependency?

Which party wants to allow ALL the “undocumented” workers to stay and be declaired legal?

Our only hope IS to vote GOP.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Way to go, mofos:

Last Thursday, hours after Sen. Harry Reid (D., NV) proclaimed the Iraq War “lost,” U.S. Navy Lt. Jason Nichols was e-mailing Michelle Malkin from his office in Baghdad with a message for Reid. “Your [Reid’s] words are killing us,” Nichols writes. “Your statements make the Iraqis afraid to help us for fear we’ll leave them unprotected in the future.”

This war would be over, the world would be safe from Islamic fascism, if we didn’t have any liberals giving aid and comfort to our enemies.

The enemy can hear every f’ed word you say.

You liberals OWN this, anyone who has died or will die is on YOU.

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By Cindy

April 23, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

A liberal plan? Where’s the neo-con plan? Oh, I forgot, we go in and the citizens throw palm leaves on the road before our troops. And if that fails, stay the course.

By Blackadder

April 23, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

CAUTION: Link contains numerous expletives.

I am SICK of all this bullsh!t people are writing about the Iraq war. I am abso-fking-lutely sick to death of it. What the fk do most of you know about it? You watch it on TV and read the commentaries in the newspaper or Newsweek or whatever god damn yuppie news rag you subscribe to and think you’re all such fking experts that you can scream at each other like five year olds about whether you’re right or not. Let me tell you something: unless you’ve been there, you don’t know a god damn thing about it. It you haven’t been shot at in that fking hell hole, SHUT THE F**K UP!

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

There’s no way to know for sure, but I believe that the bomb attacks in Iraq that caused such carnage in recent days are the expected consequences of the Democrats’ efforts to undercut the president’s new team and the changed strategy represented by the so-called “surge.” We know what the Bush surge is. I think a good name for the increasing body count in Iraq is the “Reid surge.”

Scumbags.

Filthy wretched little Cowards.

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By getalife

April 23, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Right wingnut,

Google The North American Union.

This is w’s corporate wet dream.

It eliminates our sovereignty.

God save America.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Yes, Andy he blames Reid for w’s disaster.

Typical cult member.

Geez.

God save America.

By JP

April 23, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Truth: “You liberals are really something! You still have not risen to the challenge made by Buy Danish. Obviously you are very good at identifying problems but you have not one clue as to the solutions to those problems.”

I wrote at 10:03 that your demands for “a plan” assume answers to three very simple questions, yet none of you dare address them. You’re very good at assuming we should play World Police and dive into combat at the first opportunity; yet, look where that’s gotten us?!

THINK BEFORE YOU ACT.

Dull: “the world would be safe from Islamic fascism, if we didn’t have any liberals giving aid and comfort to our enemies.”

How exactly is that? How many of the people we think are terrorists (notice we’ve killed a couple of innocents also) do we have to kill to “win” in your opinion? Does collateral damage have no effect? Do our barbaric tactics have no effect?

The simple-minded amuse me. As if it’s simply a matter of all of us wanting to “win.” Neocons started this charade, and I figure if they’re so smart, they should be getting it done. Trouble is, they didn’t think about the 3 questions either before removing the Iraqi power structure.

Great job, guys!

By getalife

April 23, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Here is a plan, let w veto, then cut the funding.

There ya go.

By Truthman

April 23, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Here we are, 142 years after the fact, and the AJC and the rest of the South can’t let William T. Sherman rest in peace!!

http://www.ajc.com/entertainment/content/shared-blogs/accessatlanta/tv/entries/2007/04/23/thumbsupordownon_sherman.html

My dad pointed out to me several years ago that you can’t go a week w/o reading W.T. Sherman’s name in the AJC.

THE CIVIL WAR IS OVER!!! THE UNION WAS PRESERVED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL AMERICANS.

LET IT GO!!

By Power of Light

April 23, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

The Light, was in his former form of Doom, in support of the war. I,however, cannot continue to indulge in blind loyalty to a party to the point of ignoring obvious failure and ineptedness. I would encourage all of those who maintain support for the war to try to develop an independent thinking mind. To support something with endless smart sounding excuses no matter the consequences is tantamount to slavery.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Lets see I was right again about Ganzo, w said he is a keeper.

The wingnuts wrong again as usual on a silly haircut:

“Little Joe, as he’s affectionately known, charges $175 for a haircut now. In his shop. When your crazy schedule dictates that he must come to you to cut your hair, his charge is based (he, too, friends, supports a family, helps his extended family and runs a business) on his time out of the shop when he could be attending other heads. Thus, $400 for that particular Edwards’ job.” Norman Lear

Geez.

By Tom

April 23, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Well, for one thing you guys blew your wad with Saddam. Now you’ve got yourself smack in the middle of a civil war. No? Why are you building walls? Lie and deny, that! Where would you get the troops for Iraq? Maybe you could form a new private army using illegal aliens. Call it Aqua Negra! Maybe you’re just planning to bomb, like you did in Lebanon? Great, billions in new business for european nations and companies who’ll sell what’s needed to rebuild. We’ll finance it all by continuing to suck up that oil. Keep up the good work. Soon you’ll have a VERY SOLID thirty percent of the people behind you.

By A Terrible Thing to Waste!

April 23, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Three weeks ago, Dawn Zimmer became a statistic. Laid off from her job assembling trucks at Freightliner’s plant in Portland, Ore., she and 800 of her colleagues joined a long line of U.S. manufacturing workers who have lost jobs in recent years. A total of 3.2 million — one in six factory jobs — have disappeared since the start of 2000.

The Republicans have left us a legacy of a ‘McJob in every pot’. What is insulting is when they then try to LIE to us and tell us that they have created thousands of “good-paying jobs” and that their economy is “ROBUST”.

Yeh, it’s ‘robust’ if you’re a theivin war hawk corporatist who makes his livin offa scammin the taxpayers for a couple gazillion more pillfered war bucks. If your an honest workin man though, there ain’t no chicken in the ‘Republican Robust Pot’, just a bunch of dirty dishwater and a big red ‘EXPORT’ tag ready to stamp across YOUR job!

What do you think is the most likely scenario, that you and your family will be slaughtered by Islamofascists, OR that you will loose your livelihood to corporate greed and outsourcing? Republicans have led us down the primrose path for far too long. They have emboldened Islamofascists with their knee-jerk reactionary ‘Cowboy’ foreign policy and have ignored the plight of Middle-Class America in favor of Republican deep-pocketed corporate handlers.

Seriously, if you feel that you have been more prosperous and secure (both physically and financially) under Republican rule, then vote Republican, if not and you would like to see competency return to government, vote Democrat.

Remember, when you hear the word ‘Republican’, stop….think….recollect the reign of King George…. and “JUST SAY NO” ! ! ! “Your mind (and American prosperity) is a terrible thing to waste.”

By Cindy

April 23, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

I was born and raised in the rural North. From what I leaned about Sherman, he doesn’t deserve to rest in peace. But I agree, the war is over and nothing will change the past.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

“Buy Danish - trying to convince these modern day Lindberghs and Chamberlains that we have any enemies at all is impossible.”

What has proven impossible is getting the Bush Administration to take effective action.

Walt

By getalife

April 23, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Just watched a Sgt. in Iraq saying this is our generation’s Vietnam.

He said we are the buffer in their civil war and unfortunately, when we leave, the Iraqis that helped us, will be slaughtered.

This is w’s legacy and his disaster.

God save America.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

I guess a PLAN was too great a challenge. That would require recognizing a problem then providing solutions.

Iran Training Iraqi Death Squads According to an Iranian opposition group, Iran’s al-Quds force is heavily involved in training Iraqi death squads and militias. The latest reports from the Mojahedin-e-Khalq, or the MeK, accuse the Iranian regime of secretly engaging in “the organization and training of large Iraqi terrorist networks in Iran and sending them back to Iraq.”//The group opposed to the ruling clergy in Tehran says Iran’s ultimate goal is to destabilize Iraq, forcing U.S. troops to leave the country, thus paving the way for the establishment of an Islamic republic in Iraq.

Don’t worry. Be happy.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

More items not worth bothering with according to the intellectual giants JP , Getalife and others.

Iraqi militia fighters are being trained in Iran to build and use deadly armor-piercing roadside bombs and complex attack strategies against American forces, the US military said. US military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell would not say how many militiamen had gone to Iran but said that questioning of fighters captured as recently as this month confirmed many had been in Iranian training camps.

Don’t worry. Be happy.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Told ya she is an idiot.

Geez.

God save America.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Nothing to worry about. Carry on, move along, it’s none of our business, no threat to us, just a neo-con conspiracy.

U.S. officials say they have found smoking-gun evidence of Iranian support for terrorists in Iraq: brand-new weapons fresh from Iranian factories. According to a senior defense official, coalition forces have recently seized Iranian-made weapons and munitions that bear manufacturing dates in 2006. This suggests, say the sources, that the material is going directly from Iranian factories to Shia militias, rather than taking a roundabout path through the black market. “There is no way this could be done without (Iranian) government approval,” says a senior official.

Don’t worry. Be happy.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Its another slam dunk huh BD?

Sorry, fool me once………………………………………………….

Geez, not again.

Insane.

God save America.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

BUSH PLAN FOR SAUDIS???

PAJAMA PARTY???

the U.S. Iraq Study Group report said Saudis are a source of funding for Sunni Arab insurgents.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

“By Truthman

April 23, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Here we are, 142 years after the fact, and the AJC and the rest of the South can’t let William T. Sherman rest in peace!!”

That History Channel show last night was extremely sympathic to Sherman.

The HC pretty much sucks as a source of History.

Sherman was a great general and was studied by Rommel (who was born the year Sherman died) among others.

Hood thought he would leave the Atlanta area and prey on Sherman’s supply line, but Hood preempted that by not having supply lines.

Walt

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

BUSH PLAN FOR US????

U.S. has been “pumping money, a great deal of money, without congressional authority, without any congressional oversight” for covert operations in the Middle East where it wants to “stop the Shiite spread or the Shiite influence.”

By Walt

April 23, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

“Hood thought he would leave the Atlanta area and prey on Sherman’s supply line, but Hood preempted that by not having supply lines.”

Crap.

Should read:

“……-Sherman- precluded that by not having supply lines.

And —- Sherman’s men were very well behaved for an operation of this type.

Walt

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

CAN BUSH EVEN SPELL PLAN????

The Bush administration claims that they care so much about protecting our troops in Iraq that they are going to go after Iran, who is at most responsible for 8% of US fatalities.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Lets get back to the original threat BD.

Where the hell is OBL?

Nice bumper sticker.

Intellectual giants?

Flattering but I think it is intellectual honesty.

Thanks for the compliment.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Saudi Arabia reportedly tells Bush administration it might provide financial backing to Iraqi Sunnis in war against Shiites if US pulls out troops;

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Slam dunk? You don’t even believe that partial birth abortions take place.

By the way, I don’t mean to get personal, but what God are you asking to save America?

You habitually make anti-Christians slurs and apologize for Islamists so that narrows down the field considerably.

Later folks…

By Walt

April 23, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

“By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

getalife,

But you weren’t bothered by the fermented Louisiana swamp water? Odd.

You DID NOT answer the question. Our service men and women are being killed by Iranian weapons. Do you care?”

It is Bush and his neo-con handlers who don’t care.

If they cared they would have engaged Iran diplomatically years ago.

Iran has aways been a great -potential- ally for us because they are not Arabs, but Persians.

It has been criminal of Bush to ignore the diplomatic angle while our troops are ‘in contact’ in Iraq.

Walt

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Find a case?

Proof BD.

Need proof.

You have no credibility, go away.

God save America.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Tehran’s Iraq role unclear, U.S. now says But Bush calls it irrelevant that no solid evidence links Iranian officials to alleged weapons aid.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I see the problem. You can’t multi task threats. You can only deal with one at a time, and are incapable of dealing with what is often called “the big picture”.

I’m surprised you can even think about Bin Laden since you are already so preoccupied with the threat posed by George Bush and Pat Robertson.

Going, going, gone…

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Walt,

RW was bashing me after I ruled them on Wooten’s blog yesterday.

They talk about people after the blog is closed or on RW’s blog.

It is the only way they can win an argument.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

It feels great to finally have a job. All I need now is a life.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

You are gone alright.

Thanks for that intellectual honesty.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

””“I’m surprised you can even think about Bin Laden”“”“

HELL GEORGE BUSH CANT THINK ABOUT IT EITHER

I truly am not that concerned about him.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

HOW TYPICAL

Broder Mangles Facts In Order To Portray Reid’s War Stance As An “Embarrassment”

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

{{{By AntiRadical April 23, 2007 12:48 PM The Republicans have left us a legacy of a ‘McJob in every pot’. What is insulting is when they then try to LIE to us and tell us that they have created thousands of “good-paying jobs” and that their economy is “ROBUST”.}}}

See what I mean^^?

Spammie: Those Priuses that you liberals buy to “save the environment” are made by Toyota, dumbas-s.

Need this be explained, about how profits go straight to Japan?

You’re saving their environment and costing “Dawn” her job, you slobbering mron.

Coward.

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By LOCAL RECRUITER

April 23, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

””“”COWARD”“”“

Take 10 points from LuckoDull from calling somebody a coward from behind his keyboard…..rather than from behind the wheel of an unarmored humvee in Iraq.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Thomas,

That great ally, Iran, has been kidnapping and killing our countrymen for almost three decades. I can see why you consider that an ally, but I don’t.

getalife,

Nobody talks about you at my blog. Get over yourself.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

{{{By JP April 23, 2007 12:18 PM Dull: “the world would be safe from Islamic fascism, if we didn’t have any liberals giving aid and comfort to our enemies.” How exactly is that? How many of the people we think are terrorists (notice we’ve killed a couple of innocents also) do we have to kill to “win” in your opinion?}}}

All of them?

Enough of them to get them to quit bombing innocent women and children?

WTF kind of questions are these, does JP stand for Julia or Janice?

Call the French and ask their soon to be new wingnut President, he isn’t a surrender monkey.

Coward.

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By LOCAL RECRUITER

April 23, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

LUCKO DULL LOSES ANOTHER 10 POINTS

CHICKEN HAWK

By getalife

April 23, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

RW,

Well, you call me a vicious lib.

Are you saying you do not talk about libs on your blog?

BTW, Iran is Iraq’s ally so you could argue if Iraq is our ally, so is Iran.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

I see nobody has taken up the challenge from Buy Danish yet.

How about a new one? What is your plan to stop the Mexican takeover of our country? Note to JP: Please don’t embarrass yourself by pretending this problem doesn’t exist like you did with Iran.

By Observer

April 23, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

In the BIG PICTURE, Hussein’s Iraq was the US’s best ally against Iran.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

{{{By LOCO Dullard April 23, 2007 1:32 PM ””“”COWARD”“”“ Take 10 points from LuckoDull from calling somebody a coward from behind his keyboard…..rather than from behind the wheel of an unarmored humvee in Iraq.}}}

I got an idea punk as-s, why don’t you see if you can get the Senate to pass a non binding resolution to make me stop?

Or maybe have Harry Reid say that you won? Give you a little aid and comfort, you poor little thing.

Coward.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Devastator

April 23, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

RW,

Nobody is taking up Buy Danish’s challenge because nobody gives a sh!t. Who the hell is she to be challenging people? Stop whining old man.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

Devastator?

Actually it’s because you are clueless idiots and nobody has given you talking points yet.

By Devastator

April 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

RW,

Look. We were lied to in order to invade and colonize a foreign land with rich resources like we always do.

Why is this so hard for you?

By DawgBite

April 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 1:42 PM

What is your plan to stop the Mexican takeover of our country?

Better them than you and those of your ilk RW. We see what happens when you ignorant azz wingwacks take over.

By RE

April 23, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

I forgot the reason Andy, why is it you are not serving in the military again?

By LOCAL RECRUITER

April 23, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

LUCKO DULL HAD AN IDEA!!!

LET”S ALERT THE MEDIA

IT MAY MEAN IT AINT BRAIN DEAD!

By JP

April 23, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Lucko, “All of them?” Congrats, you’ve found the problem—how do you know you have killed them all? I dare you to give me a concrete answer, because you can’t. You can’t prove there’s no-one left after the shooting who still harbors resentment.

RW-I have zero concern with “embarrassing myself” here. I’m asking pointed questions, because your type is clearly unwilling and uninterested in doing so. If you plan and think ahead of time, perhaps you’ll find a better solution. But you’re too ready to throw ammo and bombs at the problem.

“Chomping at the bit” isn’t a strategy to ensure you only engage in warfare where it’s necessary. It’s foolish. You should be concerned with embarrassing yourself by being fools; unfortunately, it’s too late.

By DawgBite

April 23, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

By Devastator

April 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

RW,

Look. We were lied to in order to invade and colonize a foreign land with rich resources like we always do.

Why is this so hard for you?

Because, Devastator, ole RW is from OZ. He’s the guy that runs around singing, “if I only had a brain”.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Let’s hear it from the men on the ground instead of the Cowards in the Senate:

Just back inside some civilized wire (Camp Fallujah) and am reading Harry Reid’s declaration then track back on the war in Iraq being lost. The odd thing—is that I think there are parts of Al Anbar province where the war may be over and we just don’t realize it.

Demoralize the troops and comfort the enemy, congratulations you filthy pieces of sh-it.

Cowards.

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By Devastator

April 23, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

DawgBite,

Thanks for clearing that up for me, RW must still be thinking. Anyone that gleefully loves being Bi Danish’s stooge must have experienced a great mental trauma of some sort.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

THIS ADMINISTRATION IS PATHETIC

Exclusive: Army Sgt. Questions Why American Flags Lowered For VA Tech Students, But Not Troops

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Move over, Al Gonzales, there’s a new campaign for the resignation of a Bush appointee.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Just got this email:

Subject: Fw: I think our country is in trouble

A Washington, DC, airport ticket agent offers some examples of why our country is in trouble!

I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn’t get messed up by being near the window. (On an airplane!)

I got a call from a candidate’s staffer, who wanted to go to Capetown. I started to Explain the length of the flight and the passport information, then she interrupted me with, “I’m not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts.” Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, “Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Capetown is in Africa.”Her response - click.

A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that’s not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.

He replied, “Don’t lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state!” (OMG)

I got a call from a lawmaker’s wife who asked, “Is it possible to see England from Canada?” I said, “No.” She said, “But they look so close on the map.” (OMG, again!)

An aide for a cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas.

When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, “I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between gates to save time.” (Aghhhh)

An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at8:30 am got to Chicago at 8:33 am. I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois, but she couldn’t understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.

A New York lawmaker called and asked, “Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom?” I said, “No, why do you ask?” She replied, “Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a ta

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Boehner’s time is up on “the surge”

By BuyDanish'sJohn

April 23, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

RW must be gettin those toothless treats too. After you’ve had one of those a time or two you are her stooge for life.

By IN THE NEWS

April 23, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

THIS ONE MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH

Decorated Texas Vet To Present G-Dub With A Purple Heart

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

{{{By RE April 23, 2007 1:58 PM I forgot the reason Andy, why is it you are not serving in the military again?}}}

I already did?

{{{By JP April 23, 2007 2:02 PM Lucko, “All of them?” Congrats, you’ve found the problem—how do you know you have killed them all? I dare you to give me a concrete answer, because you can’t.}}}

Look, Julia, let’s discuss the ground rules here.

No hysterical shrieking, please.

Get ahold of yourself.

Alright, think about this for a second, everytime we man up in Iraq, the killing drops off to almost nothing.

Everytime.

Now, you tell me, I’ll give you sixty seconds, what should we do to make all the killing stop?

Duh.

Coward.

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By LOCAL RECRUITER

April 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

LUCKO DULL

ALREADY DID?

GOOD THEN WE WONT HAVE TO WASTE A LOT OF TRAINING YOU WHEN WE SEND YOU BACK FOR ANOTHER TOUR

I MEAN IF OUR GUYS CAN HAVE 2 3 4 TOURS SO CAN YOU!

CHICKENHAWK

By Midori

April 23, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

This author completely nails the four or five wingnuts who post on this blog

The Party of Brownshirts Neoconservatives have turned the Republican Party into a Brownshirt Party.

Look at the evidence. While real patriots flee the party, the remaining supporters cling to power by asserting dictatorial dominance for President Bush. The Republican attorney general denies that the U.S. Constitution provides habeas corpus protection to American citizens. Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney, Republican candidates for the 2008 presidential campaign, believe the president has the power to imprison U.S. citizens indefinitely without warrants or trials. The “conservative” Federalist Society favors concentrating more power in the executive. Neoconservative ideologues claim the right to impose American hegemony over all others— especially over Muslims.

All of these Republican tyrants and budding tyrants claim to be protecting liberty and democracy.

Polls show that the percentage of Americans who tilt Republican has declined to 35 percent. Republican recruits are refusing to run for Congress. Ken Mehlman, until recently the party’s chairman, says many voters have lost confidence in Republicans. To win back people’s confidence, Mehlman says the party will have to become less reliant on white males and expand its support among Hispanics and blacks.

Decency and intelligence have departed Republican ranks. The party’s shrunken base consists of ignorant and fearful people who believe Muslim jihadists are going to murder them in their beds, rapture evangelicals who believe that war in the Middle East is the prelude to their being wafted up to heaven, the military-security complex reveling in power and fortune, and resentful and frustrated people who can freely vent their anger and hate on “terrorists.”

This collection of fear, delusion, greed and resentment comprises the 30 percent of Americans who constitute Bush’s base. The Republican Party has made itself so unattractive that Democrats believe that it is now possible for a woman or a black to win the presidency.

By RE

April 23, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Well, with all the times you call people coward, I was trying to figure out why you were sitting in Atlanta instead of in Baghdad, why are you not serving?

By Midori

April 23, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

The Republican Party lost its majority for the following reasons:

Greedy transnational corporations offshored U.S. manufacturing jobs and destroyed the hopes and livelihoods of blue-collar Reagan Democrats. The gains from offshoring are diffused, but the costs are concentrated.

The same greedy and short-sighted corporations have spent the first years of the 21st century destroying the prospects of American middle-class university graduates by offshoring jobs in professional services and by importing foreigners on work visas who work for less.

Neoconservatives captured conservative philanthropies, cut off funding to true conservatives and used the captured conservative foundations to entrench themselves as advisors to the Republican Party. The same neoconsertives that Reagan fired as a result of the Iran-Contra scandal occupy important policy positions in the Bush administration and dominate the National Security Council.

Republican “law and order” apathy to civil liberties easily transferred to the “war on terror.” Republicans regard civil liberties as protective devices for criminals and terrorists. Republicans mistakenly believe that the law can be cut down selectively so that only certain despised groups are deprived of its protection.

By Midori

April 23, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

The Bush administration lied to the American people and invaded two countries on false pretenses for indefensible reasons that the administration has never acknowledged.

The war has had catastrophic consequences that are now apparent to a majority of Americans, but the Republican Party still supports the continuation of the war.

The Bush administration has destroyed American prestige and moral aura with torture scandals and disregard for Iraqi, Afghani, Palestinian and Lebanese civilian lives.

The Bush administration’s budget and trade deficits have undermined the dollar. The Bush administration is calling for currency realignments that will lower the real incomes of import-dependent Americans.

The Bush administration’s determination to exercise American hegemony through warfare, and its assaults on civil liberties, the separation of powers, American prestige, and on good American jobs and the value of the dollar have destroyed the party’s support.

America’s virtue is its Constitution. An administration that attacks the Constitution attacks America’s virtue. The true dangers that Americans face come from George W. Bush and Richard Cheney, and their neoconservative Brownshirt Party.

To find out more about Paul Craig Roberts, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Devastator 1:57

We invaded Iraq in order to colonize it? Haven’t heard that one before. Got a source?

JP 10:03

“mistakes of the right that have been made thus far in the “war on terror”:

You (1) assume this is a credible threat, (2) assume “Britain and other western targets” includes the United States, and (3) (regardless of the answers to the first 2 questions) assume that we should be the ones to respond.”

By “war on terror” I assume you’re referring not to Iraq but to militant Islam. Is your point that no one on the “Left” (however you define it? not Democrats?) think militant Islam is a credible threat?

I can’t tell why you separate the US from “West” in your comment. If not the “West” - then in which grouping do you put the US? Sinic? Japanese? Latin American? Hindu? Islamic? Another? I’m having a little trouble discerning the point you’re trying to make through your questions.

By JP

April 23, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Lucko - So we “man up” and the scene quiets down for a little while to “next to nothing.” But it does start again, right? So do we keep “manning up” forever?

Don’t you think those against us are weighing their chances of dying, and deciding that in the short term it’s better not to make a move during the “manning up”? You should stop making my arguments for me.

Now back to the original point, the AL Qaeda threat Danish quoted: Has the number of “terror threats” passed on by “intelligence services” that have turned out to be unfounded not given you reason to even slow down and question their validity before you create an attack plan? I have absolutely no confidence in these people anymore, they’ve been wrong too many times. Just one example there.

I’d venture to say that if America were as trigger-happy as you people are, I could convincingly argue that the terrorists have won. Honestly, their entire point is to have us freaked out and panicked — to the extent that they can pass off fake “Terror threats” and make us crap our pants. Just how many pairs of soiled underwear have you gone through?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

RE,

Andy claims some doctor screwed him up but since he is a wingnut and blames other for his problems, he probably drank too much.

Bad liver.

Then there are his mental issues.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

JP,

I wouldn’t call pretending that threats don’t exist asking pointed questions. I do see why you don’t feel embarrassed though with “logic” like that.

Does anybody remember that in the Wizard of Oz the one that sang “If I Only Had a Brain” was actually the smart one?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

RW,

Vicious liberals drop acid and listen to the Dark Side of the Moon while watching with the sound off.

Geez.

By JP

April 23, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

Paul -

By “war on terror” I assume you’re referring not to Iraq but to militant Islam. Is your point that no one on the “Left” (however you define it? not Democrats?) think militant Islam is a credible threat?

I’m specifically referring to the alleged Al Qaeda threat Danish quoted from a UK newspaper article dated yesterday (I believe). Might help for you to read the course material.

That article also suggested the target of said alleged threat is Britain “and other Western nations.” Certainly we’re PART OF “Western nations,” but whether we are among the “other Western nations” targeted in this threat is open to question.

Please, come back after you do your homework.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

MANAGEMENT,

Why is that profanity laced tirade at 12:04 still posted here? Do your written rules of commenting only apply to conservatives?

By JP

April 23, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

RW: “I’m specifically referring to the alleged Al Qaeda threat Danish quoted from a UK newspaper article dated yesterday (I believe). Might help for you to read the course material.”

DO YOU know for a fact that threat is truly legit? And does it include U.S> territory? Answer: NO, no more than I do.

Pathetic.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

RW,

Its from a soldier, they have a right to cuss.

Read the whole thing, it is a very good link.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If I posted that exact same comment it would have already been taken down and the AJC would have emailed threatening to ban me.

JP,

Is your response to anything that the threat doesn’t exist?

Let’s say it does exist and is pulled off but all they do is destroy London. Do you think that has no effect on us?

By Paul

April 23, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

JP

Thanks for the clarification. I’d read BD’s post (quoting a British News Agency) as asserting the US is already in conflict with Iran.

“The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that Al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.”

I just read BD’s brief comments as substantiating her past position that Iran, Al Quaida, fanatical Islam are all interrelated regardless of specific incidents and used this to ask her political opponents to again detail a plan (not referring to Iraq or specific incidents). Then again, I could have misread her post.

I thought possibly I’d read another able to engage in a more adult level of conversation - until I got to your last line. So many here just love those parting shots that work so well on blogs and with coworkers, spouses and children.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

RW,

Would you like some weed with your whine?

/grins/

/lights bong/

/passes to RW/.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

“The Bush administration’s budget and trade deficits have undermined the dollar. The Bush administration is calling for currency realignments that will lower the real incomes of import-dependent Americans.”

I guess that means, “shops at Wal-Mart.”

Walt

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Your homeboy has lost it for sure this time. Harry Reid says we need to get al queda to the bargaining table instead of fighting them.

Geez——Somebody needs to lock this dude away in finch’s sanitarium.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

getalife

Is this a bit early or a continuation from last Friday? You seem so melllllllow lately - does the countdown to ‘08 make you smile?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

RW,

Link please?

By Paul

April 23, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

RW 3:09

I just have to ask for a source for Harry Reid’s comment. That can’t be real - some Republican dirty trickster planted it, right? Surely after all his intel briefings, foreign affairs reports, going way back to watching al Qaeda develop as an offshoot of radical Islam during the Clinton Administration he knows better. Doesn’t he?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Every day is Earth Day at my house.

I always go green.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

“The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that Al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.”

Al Qaeda is/was active in the USA.

That doesn’t mean that the government supports them.

This is the same crap as when Bush et al were saying “so and so is known to be in Iraq” without saying Saddam was trying to arrest them.

Walt

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Paul and getalife,

I’m not sure who he was addressing, but it didn’t look like he was in the Senate. He said we needed a surge but not a surge of troops. We needed a surge of diplomacy and to sit down with all warring parties to put an end to this. Al Qaeda is certainly one of the warring parties, probably the Taliban is too but he was talking about Iraq.

Should be an interesting meeting. I suggest he and Nancy Pelosi get right on that.

By DawgBite

April 23, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Lighten up all you naysayers! Things are going so well in Iraq that the new strategy is to build a fence to keep neighbors apart! And whatever happened to dancing in the streets and throwing bouquets of flowers?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Actually, Reid is not budging and Novak was wrong again:

Reid said Bush was in “a state of denial” over the war, and likened him to another commander in chief four decades ago. “I remember when President Johnson, trying to save his political legacy, initiated the first of many surges into Vietnam in 1965,” he said.

Cut the funding when he vetoes, home boy.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 23, 2007 2:29 PM RE, Andy claims some doctor screwed him up but since he is a wingnut and blames other for his problems, he probably drank too much. Bad liver.}}}

gitmo: you know, most of the time I try to play fair, unlike you do.

1) The “doctor” misdiagnosed pneumonia when I was in the army, it almost killed me. I was 21 then; it did no damage.

2) I quit drinking and doing what little drugs I did do a long, long time ago.

3) You are the one under the care of a head doctor, and you unabashedly suck on whatever bottle of Crown that happens to be close by.

Why must you make things up about me?

What else do you lie about?

What other bullsh-it do you make up about things you don’t like and can’t dispute with facts?

I just got an annual physical done last month and the doc said, despite my age and past abuses, I am a picture of perfect health.

Kiss my a-ss.

Maybe you should man up and quit eating everything the doc gives you and you too could be taking care of yourself.

Or you could sit there and whine about everything, waiting for someone to be a man for you.

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By Paul

April 23, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Leave it to a politician to think everything can be solved politically.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

{{{{{This is the same crap as when Bush et al were saying “so and so is known to be in Iraq” without saying Saddam was trying to arrest them.}}}}

Are you saying you wanted President Bush to lie to you?

What happened to Hillary’s voice? Oh, she was in front of a predominantly black audience again.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

{{{By JuliaP April 23, 2007 2:26 PM Lucko - So we “man up” and the scene quiets down for a little while to “next to nothing.” But it does start again, right? So do we keep “manning up” forever?}}}

Yawwwwnnnnnn.

Surge being the operative word here: Where once tactical units were “scraping” for intelligence information, they now have “information overload,” the general said. “After our guys are in the neighborhood for four or five days, the people realize they’re not going to just leave them like we did in the past. Then they begin to come in with so much information on the enemy that we can’t process it fast enough.”

Duh.

Coward.

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By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

RW,

Link Please?

Geez.

Dawg,

Malarki told w no wall.

By RE

April 23, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I think they should let Bush veto the bill, and leave it up to the GOP congress to find the votes to override the veto. Bush has very little support left in congress, and by keeping gonzales, he is further alienating the senate. The GOP is getting ready to dump Bush pretty soon.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

RW

If you like Hillary’s African-American accent (twice now) just wait until she campaigns in New Jersey. I never thought she could provide such entertainment value.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

My goodness,

I struck a nerve.

Well Andy,

I guess there is no excuse for RE’s question. At least, go serve chow.

Back up your bs.

Coward.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Here you go.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

RE,

They have to save their careers soon.

I agree.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

“I will strongly reject an artificial timetable (for) withdrawal and/or Washington politicians trying to tell those who wear the uniform how to do their job,” the president said.”

The presdent of the United States defining fascism.

This is a sad day.

But then, we’ve had so many because of Bush.

Walt

By Brian Curtis

April 23, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Looks like JP has backed the Bushbots into a corner, from the level of screeching they’re doing.

The usual rhetorical trick of saying “X is an obvious, imminent threat to America, so how would you libs respond to it?” hasn’t worked this time—because Iran isn’t threatening us at all, and THIS time everyone knows it.

The U.S. doesn’t need to do anything about Iran. But I suppose that doesn’t count as an “answer” if it doesn’t involve blowin’ up some more brown people… the neocon’s answer to everything, including “What’s for dinner tonight? Dead Muslims! Yee-haw!”

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

In the last two hours I’ve seen four different Democrat(ic) strategists on three different networks say exactly what RE said at 3:33. Do you guys even care that you look like the Stepford voters?

By Paul

April 23, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis

Does America face any threats in the world? Are any obvious? If not imminent, when do you expect the threat to mature to the level of imminent? How early should we take action so the threat doesn’t become “imminent?”

By RE

April 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

RW Wow, I have not seen anyone say that, I do not have a TV in my office.

Good, I hope the Dems do exactly that, put the responsibility back on the GOP, either you support the way GWB has handled Iraq, or you vote to overturn his veto

By THE POT

April 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

RE STEPFORD VOTERS

HEY RW

IS THAT YOU CALLING ME BLACK?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

RW,

ob·fus·cate –. 1. to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2. to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3. to darken.

Nice try RW.

Link Please.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

RE,

General Patraeus laid out his NEW strategy and was confirmed overwhelmingly if not unanimously, but you immediately want to pull the rug out from under with the made up claim that we are just staying the course. Why the hell didn’t the Democrats vote him down in the first place?

If you haven’t seen this latest talking point maybe you guys really are that brainwashed.

See y’all at happy hour!

By Blackadder

April 23, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Yes let’s censor the writings of an Iraq vet because she is very upset that her husband died for nothing and chose to vent with expletives.

I suppose the fact that I warned everyone about the profanity was lost on lil Ricky Wingnut. Then again I warned about expletives and not profanity. NEWSFLASH It’s the same thing Ricky.

Why does Ricky accuse everyone else of whining when it seems to be his specialty?

That’s right. He’s just another right wing hypocrite.

You all have a nice day, ok?

By Paul

April 23, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

RE

You need to send the networks a bill for consulting. Everybody’s doing it nowdays -

Seriously, Dick Morris (dickmorris.com) wrote about this a few weeks ago, thought it was a tactical mistake for the Democrats. I couldn’t find it in his archives but found this link at the top of Google:

Link:War Funding Debacle

I don’t know about “dump” but passive support on some issues is likely. He wasn’t exactly in demand for appearances during the midterms, as I recall.

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Brian Curtis - no Iran is not threatening just us, but the entire world with their militancy and their desire to destroy all that does not conform to their ideal way of life - a living hell of Dark Age Islam with modern technology to enforce it. If you cannot see that you are worse than the apologists for Stalin during the early Cold War and the appeasers and outright supporters of Hitler and Mussolini (Lindbergh, Coughlin etc…) before World War II. You are either blinded by YOUR irrational hatred of one politician, or you are just a completely blind ideologue. There is another option, but I don’t want to outright challenge someone’s sanity today!

By %%%

April 23, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

getalife - you are the king of obfuscation. You really should eschew that practice. By the way, we all have access to dictionaries because we are all on line. We’re not impressed. But then again, you never do.

By Right-wing nut job in training

April 23, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

I have a question for my right wing nut job friends out there. Lately, I have been asked by a few anti-American, pinko commies, why is it that we overthrew a government that was only a danger to its own citizens (no Iraqi national had killed a US citizen or soldier except in the 1991 incursion), but we have complete and seemingly endless patience for a government, whose delays and inability to govern and protect its own, leads to the death of roughly 30 US soldiers per week? They tell me that the current government is more dangerous to our soldiers that the last. It seems that they have a point but it isn’t one that I’ve been told to think about thus I don’t. Life’s just better when its black and white and professionals tell you what and how to think. However, I am limited to calling these commies names, changing the subject, or screaming indecipherably, but I’d like something more substantive so that I can be a more effective right-wing nut job.

Thanks,

Right-wing nut job in training

By getalife

April 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

%,

w is king.

Bush Sr: “There Might Be A Little Bush Fatigue”

Ya think?

Geez.

By RE

April 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Paul, that sounds more like wishful thinking by Dick Morris.

GWB is going to be left behind by the GOP, they cannot afford him to be the definition of a republican. There is no substance to the GOP anymore, and is only kept afloat by idealogues who either would never vote for a dem, or who believe in the traditional talking points that have not been adhered to. The gop can no longer claim to be the party of Ethics, fiscal responsibility, small government, or wartime competence.

There is little reason in the record to vote republican.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Nut Job 4:03

I forwarded your question to Wolfowitz. He may have to refer it to Pearle, though. Wolfie’s into making love, not war, these days.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

RE

Until some “traditional” Republicans (less the baggage of the religious right) comes along. Then again, that’s a lot like saying “tradtional” Democrats, absent the baggage of the ultraleft (pick your issue).

I find it interesting how Pres B has started another border security push - more in line with Democratic proposals than his own Party’s power brokers, I believe. It’d be nice to see the Democrats cooperate on an issue like this, but I will not hold my breath.

Personally, I hope both parties are in flux and will see new leadership emerge. It hasn’t always been like this. At least Rockefeller Republicans and (Scoop) Jackson Democrats provided within-Party choices, under the umbrella of general philosophical principles.

By RE

April 23, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

does %%% have a multiple personality disorder, or do they refer to themselves as “we” in the same manner the queen does?

By silver

April 23, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Yeah, there is nothing like bombing a helpless third world country to make a CHIMP feel like a man. imho, dropping bombs against a third world country with no to little air defense is the ultimate act of terrorism. If you agree, then you must vote to impeach both the chimp and his hump backed freak of a vice president.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

“By RE

April 23, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I think they should let Bush veto the bill, and leave it up to the GOP congress to find the votes to override the veto. Bush has very little support left in congress, and by keeping gonzales, he is further alienating the senate. The GOP is getting ready to dump Bush pretty soon.”

What if?

I was pretty upset to see Rep. Pelosi put “impeachment off the table” and seem to work to capture more seats in the 2008 election.

But if it freaks out the Rethugs, it might be a good idea.

She looks smarter all the time.

This doesn’t negate one of the best reasons to impeach Bush and Cheney — To show History and the World that Americans repudiate the ideas they espouse.

Walt

By @@

April 23, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish left a question for the liberals to answer at 8:31 this morning.

(((Let’s hear a realistic PLAN from the Democrats as to how we should deal with this threat.)))

Nothing, absolutely NOTHING.

My confidence is destroyed. I’m feeling “let down”.

Logical assessment. Do I go with those who HAVE A PLAN or the party/people WITHOUT A PLAN?

Conservatives; Plan…Liberals’ No Plan!

Plan…No Plan?

Man, I’ve really got to think this one through /sarc!!!!!!

By Paul

April 23, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Walt

Did impeaching Clinton show the world that Americans repudiate sex?

(joke)

Or lying?

(still joking)

By RE

April 23, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Walt,

I can just see it now, Bush and Cheney in 09 sitting out in Dubai with cush jobs from Halliburton and the Carlyle group, praying they do not get called up to the Hague.

But I do not see an impeachment coming forward, not enough time to be effective.

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Paul - the problem is that some Republicans (the Ivy League types)are really into trying to make nice with the Democrats. However, they never learn. The ones who try the hardest are the ones the Democrats hate the most. Richard Nixon was the quintessential liberal Republican in the tradition of Thomas E. Dewey. He was hated by the Democrats despite his efforts to compromise with them. He founded the EPA. He implemented wage and price controls. He abandoned his draconian domestic budget cuts and increased ‘welfare’ spending. He founded the EEOC (at that time a very good thing), but they hated him anyway because of one issue - he was a staunch anti-communist. Bush is really in conflict on one major issue - the war on terror. The Democrats are so bent on victory and holding power that they have become invested in defeat. They do not care how much it hurts this country, they are going to bring about our defeat diplomatically if not on the battle field.

Senator Jacob K. Javits once said that the difference between liberal Republicans and liberal Democrats is a belief in basic freedom and the wisdom of the American system. These words still ring true.

By Cindy

April 23, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Paul, We are in imminent danger from this administration. It is like the “boy who cried wolf”. We’ve been deceived so much that the real thing will have to hit us before we can believe another word from these neo cons. Sad, scary and true.

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

RE - you are confusing Bush with Clinton, who already has a job with the UAE (which includes Dubai). Democrats really are a bunch of hypocrites. Bush and Cheney also don’t need the money.

By RE

April 23, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

See Paul, here is an example of an idealogue, he will never vote for anyone but a republican because logic, reason, and history are not as important as party identitiy.

Democrats hate Nixon because he was anti-communist. are you kidding? Nothing in there about watergate or expanding the vietnam war after being elected to end it.

Fantasy world

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Cindy - you sound just like Neville Chamberlain rebuking Winston Churchill in 1938-1939. You are convinced that those who want to PROTECT this country are just a bunch of war mongers who are too stupid or uncivilized to understand that all we need to do is talk to these nice people and confess to being just terrible and then they will like us and we can all go home and be happy. Who is your favorite author - Lewis Carroll or Beatrice Potter?

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

RE - yes the Democrats did hate Nixon because he was an anti-communist.They hated him long before Vietnam. He did end the war, and he was duped by the communists because he decided to start doing what the libs wanted him to do - talk, talk, talk. Like Al-Qaeda, they never had any intention of following through on the peace treaty. He gave them what they wanted and they still hated him because he was behind the conviction of a man who WAS a Soviet spy, Alger Hiss.

I was also told by a left-wing history professor in college that Eisenhower did not get us out of Korea ‘fast enough.’ He was inaugurated in January and we signed the armistice in June and South Korea is still a free country. I just love how liberals love to re-write history to fit their crazy view of things.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job in training April 23, 2007 4:03 PM I have a question for my nut job friends out there. Lately, I have been asked by a few anti-American, pinko commies, why is it that we overthrew a government that was only a danger to its own citizens}}}

Ummm, yeah. Those half a million dead Iranians and Kuwaitis that Iraq’s army killed probably thought Saddam was their best friend, I’ll bet.

Never mind the fact that he killed several hundred thousand of his own people and Kurds too.

Little miss sissy^^ would prefer that we hadn’t stopped the slaughter, I guess.

{{{(no Iraqi national had killed a US citizen or soldier except in the 1991 incursion),}}}

Incursion?

Does that one word not tell the whole story?

Punk as-s socialist mofo, anti American scumbag, we liberated a nation that had been wrongly invaded, this coc-k knocker sees it as an “incursion.”

{{{but we have complete and seemingly endless patience for a government, whose delays and inability to govern and protect its own, leads to the death of roughly 30 US soldiers per week?}}}

Let’s see here, 3200 divided by 224 weeks equals 14 per week.

Don’t pay much attention in your little pansy as-s socialist indoctrination center, suckhole?

Or don’t they teach math along with your anti American curriculum?

Coward.

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By @@

April 23, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Getalife @ 10:02. You’re surprised that Putin is getting bold???? Paranoid maybe.

The administration is consulting with Poland on hosting a U.S. base with 10 missile interceptors, and is talking to the Czech government about hosting a radar system used to track hostile missiles in flight.

I seem to recall an article where Weinberger told Reagan that our reach and abilities wouldn’t extend into Poland. I’ll see if I can find it for you.

By Amelia

April 23, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Well, stated Paul. The religious right and to an extent, the xenophobic right has alienated mainstream Americans to the point that, well…2006 happened. Furthermore, the democrats are in the enviable position of basically having the luxury of doing or saying little or nothing. The republican party is twisting in the wind, with candidates having to flip flop on previously held positions, i.e. Rudy Guiliani, Mitt Romney, et al. Republican candidates are having to ride a fine line when it comes to pandering to the wacky right without alienating mainstream republicans and independents who prior to this administration tended to vote republican. The loonies on the far left seem less a threat to moderates than do the right wingers. Democratic candidates can stake out a position and then just sit back and watch the republican candidates play Russian Roulette with their campaigns. I.E. John McCain. Bottom line here…the right wing is killing the republican party.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

“AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

Let’s hear a realistic PLAN from the Democrats as to how we should deal with this threat.”

It’s mostly a law enforcment issue.

It always was.

We need to incent the Pakistanis to chase Al Qaeda out of their areas and also redeploy our guys out of Iraq to have plenty of force to trap Al Qaeda anywhere in Afghanistan.

We keep enough force stationed in our Arab allies in Qutar and Kuwait and at sea in Amphibious Ready Groups to deal with any large threats.

Easy.

I’ve posted the like at least once before.

Walt

By Cindy

April 23, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

I can still see Nixon in the concert hall in 1971 holding up his fingers in the peace sign. I attended the speech with a Republican group. What a memory and what a laugh! Eventually I felt betrayed by him and never quite trusted Republicans again. No, it had nothing to do with his feelings on communism.

By @@

April 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Here ‘ya go Getalife. I knew it was within my “easy” reach.

It’s a written account of Reagan’s PLAN to fight communism.

(((Reagan had actually considered a military invasion of Poland in response to any Soviet military intervention. The Soviets of course aimed to repel Polish efforts to throw off the yoke of communism. Author Kengor’s interviews with high-ranking Reagan administration officials clearly showed how dead serious the president was about preventing Soviet hegemony in Poland.)))

Prior to the inaugural, soon-to-be Defense Secretary Caspar “Cap” Weinberger warned Reagan that taking on the Soviets over Poland would be difficult because “[W]e don’t have the ability to project our power that far.” Reagan interrupted and said, “Stop. Yes I know that, Cap, but we must never be in this [weak] position.” That foretold the coming military buildup.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

@@,

Don’t bother.

I read what Putin is doing.

I did not look into his eyes and see his soul but when I look into the gop’s eyes, I see no soul.

Cindy,

You have every reason not to trust the gop. I am amazed at the folks that do.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

“He founded the EPA.”

What!?

The president doesn’t found federal agencies.

Nixon vetoed the Clean Water Act.

What a joke.

Walt

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

For you history buffs, we do not learn from our mistakes so it is a mute point.

One thing is for sure, change is constant.

Join us in the 21st century.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Sounds like the suppplemental funding bill coming out of conference is going to be tougher than either of the original bills in the Senate or House.

Good for the Dems!

Walt

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

{{{The Nevada Democrat Coward outlined specifically for Al Qaeda the elements of the legislation in a speech a few hours after Bush said he will reject any legislation along the lines of what Democrats intend to pass. “I will strongly reject an artificial timetable (for) withdrawal and/or Washington politicians trying to tell those who wear the uniform how to do their job,” the president said.}}}

And now a message from a man:

yeah and i got a qoute for that douche harry reid. these families need us here. obviously he has never been in iraq. or atleast the area worth seeing. the parts where insurgency is rampant and the buildings are blown to pieces. we need to stay here and help rebuild. if iraq didnt want us here then why do we have IP’s voluntering everyday to rebuild their cities. and working directly with us too. same with the IA’s. it sucks that iraqi’s have more patriotism for a country that has turned to complete s** more than the people in america who drink starbucks everyday. we could leave this place and say we are sorry to the terrorists. and then we could wait for 3,000 more american civilians to die before we say “hey thats not nice” again. and the sad thing is after we WIN this war. people like him will say he was there for us the whole time.

Douche bag is too nice of a word for a Coward that is stabbing you and the Iraqi people in the back.

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By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Walt - he backed the legislation which created the EPA. He appointed the first director, William Ruckleshaus. I know that you like to pretend to be an intellectual by arguing over semantics at times, but yes he did found, create, start etc… the EPA. I believe he did eventually sign a version of the Clean Water Act. But in any case, you made my point. No matter what Republicans do, you never like it. The irony is that the most successful one never sought to compromise with you Democrats (and yes Walt, despite your protests you are a liberal one of those). Reagan in the end was also the most successful of the Republican presidents of the late 20th Century. You hate him too, but he didn’t care.

By @@

April 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

I think the word you’re looking for is “moot” Mr. Chairman.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

“Douche bag is too nice of a word for a Coward that is stabbing you and the Iraqi people in the back.”

The best thing we can do for the Iraqis is leave them alone.

Walt

By bon scott

April 23, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Midori - nice job relaying the essay examining the “brownshit” mentality of BushCo and it’s supporters. They truly are 1) evil, and 2) clueless.

BD, RW, and those in the tunnel-vision choir, especially Andy, still don’t get it. There is no unified Islamic plan for the eradication of the West. There are so many sects, tribes and families involved, with grivances dating back centuries that their chances of success against the West are far less than Gorbachev had in holding together the Soviet Union. Zero.

Watch the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia hit the roof if the Shiites in Iraq form a fundamentalist government modelled after and supported by Shia Iran. Neither side will have time to plot overthrowing and subjugating the West. They’ll be too busy trying to kill eachother. And forget about them actually following through on such a plan, should they have the time to formulate one. The West will have to be vigilant against small, fringe, rouge elements, especially if they somehow get ahold of a nuke from N. Korea or Iranian internal extremists. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Now, keep in mind that this disintegration of the Persian Gulf and superficially allied (with either Shia or Sunni) people in nations from Morocco to China sets the stage for multi-layered civil wars which the West will either have to watch, or intervene at it’s peril. I predict the latter. I am not happy about this.

All this under the so called watch of Bush 43 and his henchmen, quite possibly the most corrupt and greedy crime family in history.

And it’s not there weren’t hints in the past behavior of these crimiminals who now lead the US government that they would act just the way they are today; both in terms of imperialistic foreign policy and repressive domestic policy.

The only thing that disturbs me more than the BushCo sins is the blind loyality of it’s blind followers, such as the ones that spew their drivel here.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Walt,

Novak was reporting they caved on the deadline.

Wrong.

He is about credible as that Drudge link Andy just posted.

By %%%

April 23, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

getalife - this is not nitpicking as you want to define words for us all of the time - the term is MOOT point not mute point, pseudo!

By Cindy

April 23, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

I am not afraid of war Truthsayer. Experience has shown me that this administration is too stupid and probably too uncivilized to effectively plan and implement an invasion. Their own deceitful games have weakened them in the eyes of the American public, not just me. I have no faith in their war fighting abilities. If we must go to war, then it must be with much more effectual leadership than that which took us into Iraq.

By Midori

April 23, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Thanks Bon Scott - I’m surprised one (or all) of them didn’t try to attack it or me, demanding a “smoking gun”.

By RE

April 23, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Again with the coward word again.

Everytime you say that I keep wondering why you are not in the Army right now andy. You said you were in perfect health, why haven’t you signed up?

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Walt - he backed the legislation which created the EPA. He appointed the first director, William Ruckleshaus. I know that you like to pretend to be an intellectual by arguing over semantics at times, but yes he did found, create, start etc… the EPA.”

By no stretch does the president “found” federal agencies.

Walt

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

%,

No silly, I make up my own words.

It means I can’t hear the bs you spew.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott

“BD, RW, and those in the tunnel-vision choir, especially Andy, still don’t get it. There is no unified Islamic plan for the eradication of the West. There are so many sects, tribes and families involved, with grivances dating back centuries that their chances of success against the West are far less than Gorbachev had in holding together the Soviet Union. Zero.”

Actually, bon scott, a number of historians and policy analysts take a differing view, in that they look at the broad outline of Islam, do not focus on the tribes, sects, etc, take a longer view (past a century), substitute “overarching philosophy” for “unified Islamic plan” and come to quite a different conclusion regarding the danger posed to the West (and the Hindus, and the Africans, etc) by Islam.

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Bon Scott - noone ever clamed that there was a unified Islamic movement to destroy the west. But a large group of Islamist do want to do so. Just as a large group of Socialists called communists wanted to do so before 1991. Many still do. I guess just because some in Islam might not want to destroy western civilization we should just ingore those who do and not defend ourselves against them because we might make them and the others angry. Well they are already angry with us. They have been since the early 7th century. That is what JIHAD is all about.

And Walt - the war on terror is NOT a law enforcement issue. It is a defense issue. Law enforcement may have a role to play in our defense, as it always has, but it is a defense issue. To say that this is primarily a law enforcement issue is to betray an ignorance that is not only astounding but dangerous if espoused by those in charge - and unfortunately it is.

On a final note, we can only pray as a world and a nation that the attractive and evil clone of Hitlery Clinton is not elected in France in three weeks.

VOTEZ SARKOZY - ALLEZ, ALLEZ, ALLEZ!

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

“I believe he did eventually sign a version of the Clean Water Act.”

Wrong again.

His first veto was overridden.

Walt

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

{{{{{By Blackadder April 23, 2007 3:52 PM-WHAAAAA}}}}}}

What a punka-ss, crying about me as soon as the bell rings letting this jerk know he can punch the clock and leave his minimum wage job. F’ng loser.

Doesn’t everybody just love the libs giving out their free advice on how to fix the Republican Party. Gee, it appears all we have top do is adopt the Democrat Party platform and you guys will be just fine with us.

I’ll tell you how to fix the Republican Party. Get out early and find strong conservative candidates to knock every stinking RINO out in the primaries and quit sucking up Democrats.

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

For instance,

coc = culture of corruption

cult freaks = wingnuts

mute point = moot point.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

“By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Walt,

Novak was reporting they caved on the deadline.

Wrong.

He is about credible as that Drudge link Andy just posted.”

Maybe Cheney hasn’t spoken to -him- since the Libby conviction either.

Walt

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Walt,

cheney has not spoken to libby.

Some friend huh?

By Amelia

April 23, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

The way to fix the republican party is to tell the right wing xenophobes, nativists, and neo-cons to find somewhere else to hang their hat. To those of you that shoe fits, do the rest of America and the republican party a favor and wear it. In other words take a hike. Braniacs like you RW are the very people that chased some of the most conservative, family values oriented, pro-lifers in this country right over to the other side for generations to come.. And you know the group I am talking about, don’t you RW?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Well, I would take up for RW but he threw me under the bus with macaca, of all people.

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

RW - that is why I want Thompson to run. We need a Reagan, not a Clinton clone. By the way, even if we do run a Clinton clone the Democrats will still hate him, just like they do all liberal Republicans - I still remember them running to the left of rediculous Ramsey Clark against Javits in 1974! Javits was too conservative for the libs and he had a ADA rating of 90%!

By Midori

April 23, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

They don’t call them the “Bush Crime Family” for nothing!!

A rundown of Bush appointees who left under a cloud or face conflict-of-interest allegations

—Scooter Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in a grand jury investigation into the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame. His trial also implicated top political adviser Karl Rove and Cheney in a campaign to discredit her husband, Iraq war critic and retired ambassador Joe Wilson. Libby, who plans an appeal, is awaiting a June 5 sentencing.

— Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is fighting to hold onto his job in the face of congressional investigations into his role in the firing of eight U.S. attorneys. Two top aides have resigned in the investigation into whether the firings were politically motivated. Emails and other evidence released by the Justice Deparment suggest that Rove played a part in the process. Other e-mails, sent on Republican party accounts, either have disappeared or were erased.

— Paul Wolfowitz, president of the World Bank and a former deputy defense secretary, acknowledged he helped arrange a large pay raise for his female companion when she was transferred to the State Department but remained on the bank payroll. The incident intensified calls at the bank for his resignation.

— J. Steven Griles, an oil and gas lobbyist who became deputy Interior Secretary J., last month became the highest-ranking Bush administration official convicted in the Jack Abramoff influence-peddling scandal, pleading guilty to obstructing justice by lying to a Senate committee about his relationship with the convicted lobbyist. Abramoff repeatedly sought Griles’ intervention at Interior on behalf of Indian tribal clients.

— Former White House aide, David H. Safavian, was convicted last year of lying to government investigators about his ties to Abramoff and faces a 180-month prison sentence.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Seymour Hersh??? Has that doddering old fool been right about anything in the last quarter century??? Geez, finch, can’t you do better than that?

By Midori

April 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer - easy to fix.

Why not just dig Reagan up and run him?

Who would be able to tell the difference?

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

{{{By Walt April 23, 2007 4:48 PM “AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report. It’s mostly a law enforcment issue.}}}

Yeah, Wally, the investigation of the first World Trade Center attacks really made those terrorists quake in their boots, didn’t it?

(Look at this dullard, he posts a link showing that the war on terror is for real and still quite dangerous, but he wants to cut and run from it. 3000 innocent people burning to death in Manhattan, we’re going to serve subpoenas on their behalf, wonderful.)

Coward.

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{{{By RE April 23, 2007 5:18 PM Again with the coward word again. Everytime you say that I keep wondering why you are not in the Army right now andy. You said you were in perfect health, why haven’t you signed up?}}}

Again, again, again is right, why are you weirding out today?

This is so damn odd, the arguments these wankers come up with.

Their total lack of testosterone is so obvious.

Look, Coward, this may come as a surprise but the war with the most participation was World War 2 and only 10% of our population served in the military.

Vietnam was like .05%.

I can just imagine, The United States fielding vast battalions of 70 year olds that work for free, so the libs won’t bitc-h about the “defecit,” huge human waves of wheel chairs and walkers.

Or maybe we could pull an Iran and send swarms of 14 year olds to their deaths.

And we should bring home our most healthiest, experienced, well trained, those most likely to live and survive and replace them with women and children.

WTF man, what a wanker, so f’ing clueless.

And a Coward too.

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By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Actually Amelia, I don’t know what GROUP you’re talking about. I’m an individual.

getalife,

I took up for you with Markus.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Amelia

I’m familiar with xenophobia and nativism so I understand you’re saying Republicans are generally opposed to immigrants, even though every one of them descended from an immigrant?

I still haven’t heard (here) a definition of a neocon, although it’s used a great deal.

But, if in using xenophobe and nativist as citing 19-th century movements and ideas to describe a present-day political party, are you also going to equate the “mankind impacts global climate change to a greater extent than natural cycles” movement of today (championed by many on the Left, it seems) with the Eugenics movement of the 19th century?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

RW,

Just messing with ya.

I thought the Hersh interview was pretty good.

Which part was wrong?

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

“By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

{{{By Walt April 23, 2007 4:48 PM “AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report. It’s mostly a law enforcment issue.}}}

Yeah, Wally, the investigation of the first World Trade Center attacks really made those terrorists quake in their boots, didn’t it?”

It made whatshisname quake in his boots when he was arrested for that attack.

Patrolling streets In Baghdad has netted exactly zero positive effects on the war against Al Qaeda.

Remember the way we got Al Zhawahiri was that the Jordanian Intelligence service gave him up.

What we are doing right now plays directly into OBL’s plans. He aims to bankrupt us the way the war in Afghanistan backrupted the USSR.

And Bush is helping him.

Walt

By Right-wing nut job in training

April 23, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Luck-o-Dull,

Love the name calling and your changing the subject as well as your use of irrelevant facts. I stand amazed at your capacity to ignore anything that does not comport with your point of view which as we know is right irrespective of pesky facts or circumstances. Good training for a right wing nut case. I’m almost a complete idiot now and I have you to thank.

However, you still haven’t shown the courage to answer the question as to why we allow this Iraqi Government to continue to put our troops in harm’s way? At what point do we give up on this government and force them to do what is needed to be done? I’ve heard other right-wing nut cases suggest that since it took twenty years to get a Constitution and then we had a civil war that we should be patient. If my math is correct those events took about 89 years to occur. Are you willing for our soldiers to stay that long? I guess I’m asking how much of a right-wing nut job are you? Because I’m guessing that you don’t have the courage or the stomach or the balls to say that 84 more years is ok if that’s what it takes. I’m guessing that you are a gutless, weasely, pretend nut case that won’t commit to sending our kids to die for that many years. But I am. Because I’m an ever bigger right wing idiot than you’ll ever be. I say that next we invade Jerusalem and we’ll settle that little religous dispute too. Too many damned terrorists there NOT to get some action there. Can you handle it or are you chicken? Coward.

Official (i.e., better than you) right wing nut case.

By Amelia

April 23, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

The short answer to that Paul is, nope. I made myself perfectly clear and you picked up on it very quickly. So it must be a pretty transparent issue. Republicans screwed up with that one and it will hurt them for many many years to come.

By Walt

April 23, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

“(Look at this dullard, he posts a link showing that the war on terror is for real and still quite dangerous, but he wants to cut and run from it. 3000 innocent people burning to death in Manhattan, we’re going to serve subpoenas on their behalf, wonderful.)

Coward.”

I don’t post links so I know you are not talking about me.

Walt

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

The alternative is to get Republican votes. But only two of them were for the March bill, and few are likely to support anything but a “clean bill,” with no deadlines, goals or benchmarks.

That’s because we’re men not Cowards.

You’re not going to get our votes by bribing us, by having your moonbat fever swamp insane lobby threaten to not vote for us, no media hissy fit is going to sway us, we won’t be broken little bitc-hes like you pinko libs are.

You’re the Cowards, running from a bunch of Chos, pushing old women and children into enslavement, congratulations on letting the world know how you would abandon those who you voted to protect.

But you lose anyway. We know you’re chickensh-it now, you voted for it and you lost anyway.

Nice job.

Cowards.

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By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Walt - you are a fool. You would rather surrender than to fight for our freedom and to preserve our civilization. You really don’t get that no matter what the cost - WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE! We are also not the Soviet Union. WE bankrupted the Soviet Union by confronting them on several fronts. We are still the greatest economic and military power on the face of this planet and in the history of this planet. You liberals are worse than most military strategists - you keep fighting the last war without learning any lessons from it.

By RE

April 23, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Andy,

But why aren’t you in the army

Are you a coward?

By Paul

April 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Amelia

Bravo! But in all seriousness, the Democratic Party has been just as poor on that issue, seeming to many to put pandering for votes above principle. To me, it’s another issue where we can’t turn back the clock, where people really avoid discussions of the present reality (or deny it) (any perceived “negative” that could hurt them politically), and real negatives just keep increasing - rather like a wave heading towards shore.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

{{{By RE

April 23, 2007 4:16 PM

does %%% have a multiple personality disorder, or do they refer to themselves as “we” in the same manner the queen does?}}}

RE,

The word “dunce” does not even begin to describe how stupid you are and how “dunce like” that statement was.

&&& noted that WE all have dictionaries because WE are all on-line.

That use of the word “we” is not the same as the “royal we”, such as in this sentence:

“RE, are “we” ready for our nice cup of tea now, or are “we” drooling too much, and too occupied with utilizing the bed pan at the moment?”

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

{{{Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who voted for the war resolution and said last November that of course the troops will be funded, now says he’s for Sen. Russ Feingold’s March 2008 deadline.}}}

Why is this Coward punking out now?:

{{{Such a measure would enrage many Democrats. CodePink and other antiwar organizations have already been staging demonstrations. They’d get really angry if a Democratic House passes a “clean bill.”}}}

Cause he’s scared of the pinkies, gosh, what a man.

Cowards.

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By Walt

April 23, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Walt - you are a fool. You would rather surrender than to fight for our freedom and to preserve our civilization. You really don’t get that no matter what the cost - WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE!”

What you don’t get is that I am all for a war against Islamofascism or whatever the prevailing term is today.

The fact staring us all in the face is that Bush has been beyond inept in waging it.

Who could have dreamed 5 years ago we could be in this sorry situation?

Bush is an incompetent and the blood of our best people is on his hands.

And there is -no- doubt that his actions have helped Al Qaeda.

Walt

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

RE,

If I may interject, you’re really starting to sound like an episode of Peewee’s Playhouse.

By Mike

April 23, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Amelia, the sad but oh so true reality is that “conservatives” like RW are more than willing to alienate people with strong socially conservative views because they are not the skin tone that RW includes in his version of America. And in his small mind he really doesn’t understand that he and others like him are the problem in today’s Republican party.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull 5:59

Thank you - I think you may be on to something there. Just a few weeks ago discussion zinged along with (excuse the generalization here - “ultraLeft” “anti-Iraq” whatever - group stating why it was difficult or unwise to withdraw until just before the election. Some (ahem, guess who) said that if they really wanted out, six months was well and truly doable.

Now Sen Reid calls for six months total withdrawal from the date of passage, past arguments be tossed? And you cite the pressure (and embarrassment) to the Party (Hillary, Harry, Pelosi) by the ultraLeft antiwar faction? So having that kind of fratricide is more dangerous to them than any perceived political advantage they’d gain by stringing out the withdrawal until just before the election?

You just may be on to something here. Well done, LuckoDull.

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

Mike,

What exactly are my social views?

Thank you in advance, moron.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

{{{By Walt April 23, 2007 5:51 PM Patrolling streets In Baghdad has netted exactly zero positive effects on the war against Al Qaeda.}}}

35,000 terrorists killed is a “zero positive effect” for Wally.

Congratulations on graduating from partial to total dumbas-s.

I now return you to the relative obscurity that you enjoyed before I made the mistake of responding to you.

{{{By nut job in training April 23, 2007 5:52 PM However, you still haven’t shown the courage to answer the question as to why we allow this Iraqi Government to continue to put our troops in harm’s way?}}}

I’m not going to make the same mistake that I made with Wally^^.

This idiot speaks for himself quite clearly.

{{{By RE April 23, 2007 5:58 PM Andy, But why aren’t you in the army Are you a coward?}}}

Yes, RE, when I was young I joined the army and put my life on the line for this country because I was a “coward.”

You got me, jeez.

(It’s a full moon, ain’t it?)

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By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Please tell me that you meant to put “/SARC” after “Bravo!” in your note to Amelia Bedilia.

JP, Getalife, Blackadder, Bon Scott and fools,

Have you begun rationing your toilet paper yet?

It’s stunning how Democrats manage to preoccupy themselves with solutions of the sort The Warming Sisters provide while ignoring the enemy who has arrived at the gates.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

April 23, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Luck-o-Dull,

I found this quote: “We’ve talked at length, my soldiers and myself, and a term that comes up often is this is our generation’s Vietnam,” said U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Matthew St. Pierre. “I don’t think this can be won, we’re caught in the middle of a civil war.”

How do we end up with liberal cowards like this in the military. Why does he hate America? Why is he giving both aid and comfort to the enemy? I think we should hang him for treason, don’t you Luck-o-Dull or are you too sissy?

Right wing Nut Job in Full Glory

By %%%

April 23, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish - Thank you. I did not reply to RE because his stupidity seemed so obvious, but thanks again for pointing it out to him. However, pointing out the stupidity of these liberals is next to useless. They are like vampires who cannot see their own reflections in the mirror. The analogy is perfectly appropriate as these people are literally sucking the life out of our Republic with their welfare system and their desire to destroy our ability to defend ourselves.

By Doug

April 23, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Ah, Buy Danish! Back from turning cheap tricks I see. Welcome!

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

WOOPS!

In my 6:12 I meant to say …”and other like-minded fools”.

I by no means meant to leave the impression that JP, Getalife, Bon Scott and Blackadder were exempt from that category.

LuckoDull,

I think the Dems should run on drafting Senior Citizens. It’s no more idiotic than anything else they’ve proposed.

By Truthsayer

April 23, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Right wing Nut JOb in Full Glory - you, like all liberals, like to pick and chose. The trouble is you forgot to quote from the 120,000 other soldiers there who disagree with the ONE you quoted. One can always, in a free country, find a dissenting voice. Try find such a dissenting voice in Iran who is willing to let his name be used.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Normal, sane Americans speak out:

{{{Historians would certainly disapprove of Reid’s logic and examples abound. When the 101st Airborne division was cut off and surrounded by German forces in the Battle of the Bulge the Allies weren’t losing WWII, the Nazis were. One could have perceived that we were losing the war at that point, but the reality was entirely different. Mr. Reid and many other politicians, academics and commentators, in a gesture derived from farce, took it upon themselves to decide that progress towards victory in the war in Iraq will be measured only if no shots are heard and no car bombs explode. But if that were to occur, we would find ourselves at the end of the war, not in the middle of the war pursuing, and moving towards, victory which is where we are. In this context, Mr. Reid’s statement needs to be understood differently. Indeed one war is being lost by America today; it is the war of ideas, not the war in Iraq. Ironically, the former is being lost by the very group of people elected to defend America, its citizens and its interests against her enemies.}}}

Cowards.

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By Paul

April 23, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

Hi Buy!

I’m just having a heckuva time today misreading posts I suppose.

No sarcasm there. I read her first post to pick false issues (nativism) or issues that were discredited towards a particular policy (no immigration, no citizenship, no compromise) - and even that is liberally stated, as “neocon” was also cited. It was said in the vein that the publicity received was harmful to the Republican Party.

I asked if the same applied to Eugenics (a superior race/no racial mixing movement) of the 19th century that had great support of Liberals of the day - much the same as with global warming does today.

She responded with a comment to the transparency of the issue and that “all or nothing” positions hurt parties.

At least, that’s how I read it. My response was also meant to imply while both sides dig in their heels the problem keeps growing. I’d really, really like to see the Parties get some real fixes in place (illegal immigration, Medicaid/Medicare, petroleum dependency, international economic problems - each side is better served by giving up a little than by holding out for everything.

By Mike

April 23, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish, when you consider that 57% of a constituency that voted republican in the 2000 and 2004 elections suddenly goes the other way in 06, maybe, just maybe, Amelia has a point. And if you still need validation of her point, just dial 1-800-J.D.Hayworth goes home. He’ll back her up.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

%%%,

I apologize for using &&& by mistake, but you’re welcome.

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

April 23, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Luck-o-Dull,

Are you willing to kill the Army staff seagant, and his men, for saying that the war is unwinnable or not? You realize that if we don’t kill him then we are emboldening the enemy? I dare say that if you won’t support the immediate killing of Sgt. St. Pierre, then you are simply a cowardly liberal sissy.

Join me in a hangin’ or join with the wimps and cowards.

Right wing nut job in full glory

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Mike,

Amelia is using sterotypes and using bogeymen like “the religious right” to make her so-called “point”.

If she wants help elect Republicans I suggest she work for the Democrats. I’d personally love to see more Jane Fleming types yak yak yakking away.

By N-GA

April 23, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I keep reading into your posts that you support pre-emptive military action. So my question is this: Do you also believe that the person/country responsible for the pre-emptive action should be held accountable if their justification for such action proves to be unsubstantiated? If you believe the answer is yes, then what should be done about the US invasion of Iraq? If your answer is no, then are you saying that “might makes right”?

By RW-(the original)

April 23, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

I’d be willing to bet that there were barely more than 57% of the voters from 2004 even voting in 2006. Sounds like somebody is making up statistics the same way they make up someone else’s positions on various issues.

Tell us Mr. Oracle, Mike, where did you get your stats?

By Right-wing nut job in full glory

April 23, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Luck-o-Dull,

I think we should ‘re-educate’ those in the military who have thoughts that are inconsistent with our own. We can live with douchebag libs saying commie stuff, but when our own military undercuts our own military then we have real problems. These guys need to shut up and die until I tell them to stop dying. We ain’t paying them 3 bucks an hour to think are we?

If they don’t get on borad for the big W, we should just kill them. Are you up for it, you wimp? Come on, you don’t mind 3600 dying at the hands of the enemy whats wrong will killing a few ourselves if its in the greater good? The libs will scream but screw ‘em right?

Right wing nut job in full glory

By Paul

April 23, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

N-GA

What did I write (today?) that seemed to support preemption?

By getalife

April 23, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Well, the Border Patrol has a great idea.

Recall their leader.

Ron Paul has solutions but the wingnuts will howl.

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I meant to include you in my response to “Mike” at 6:38.

Amelia is no more interested in the welfare of the Republican Party than Getalife is.

Her use of the word “neo-con” is a big clue that she is a merely posing as a disgruntled Republican.

By LuckoDull

April 23, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

{{{By nut job in full glory April 23, 2007 6:41 PM I think we should ‘re-educate’ those in the military who have thoughts that are inconsistent with our own. We can live with douchebag libs saying commie stuff, but when our own military undercuts our own military then we have real problems. These guys need to shut up and die until I tell them to stop dying. We ain’t paying them 3 bucks an hour to think are we?}}}

Yawwwwwnnnnnnn.

It’s a volunteer army.

Is this beyond your level of comprehension?

I remember one time, we had an as-s kicking field exercise ahead of us, two solid weeks of humping and everybody, I’m talking about everybody was bitc-hing and moaning.

Our rucksacks that we were carrying weighed 120 pounds easy, and I threw that bad boy on my back, tightened up the straps and standing there under all that weight, told my seargent loud enough so that everyone could hear me “now that I don’t give a f anymore, I’m good to go.”

We had a blast those two weeks.

And I don’t remember hearing anyone else bitc-hing anymore.

It’s all in your mind.

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By Paul

April 23, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

N-GA

Your response with my last will likely cross with this - so forget today -

Some here in the past have asserted “preemption” is a Bush invention regarding US policy. This is incorrect. I’ve pointed that out in the past - more as an effort to set the record straight than as an advocate.

I’ve also pointed out that when leaders tweak the tail of the tiger they may get bit. Saddam made claims for years about WMD capability (I’ve referenced SecDef Cohen’s statement both he and Pres Clinton were convinced Saddam had WMDs). We attacked Iraq, in large part (ostensibly) over this issue. I’ve said some dismiss Ahmadinejad (rather paternalistic) and have said he should learn from Iraq - stoke the fire of fear and it can backfire.

Preemption has a valid place. See Israel, 1967 war. But today the stakes are higher, much higher. Especially given a country and a leader (Iran) that has said they want to develop nukes and destroy Israel (what did I see last week - a poll that said 37 percent of Israelis think another Holocaust is possible).

So about Iran? I’ve also written about unintended consequences, escalation and quicksand - also asymetrical warfare. I don’t think it’s “go it alone.” Other Western nations have as much to fear from a nuclear Iran as we do - and a lesson of Iraq is alliances based upon common threats do matter (but in both cases, countries - France - Germany - seemed willing to put profit above principle, and that makes things more difficult).

But I don’t think we’re anywhere near that point. Economic disinvestment (in the manner of South Africa) is in the winds. UN agencies can be given support - if we call our “partners” on it if they block action or water down sanctions.

But that’s Iran. In general, preemption’s dangerous. That’s why the bar was set so high.

Might never makes right. But in politics, much is never about “right.” Iraq? I’m going long here. I’ll hit that another time, if you don’t mind - but really, the only way we hold elected officials accountable is to vote them out (please, others, don’t start up with the “impeach the war criminal” posts - we’re having a serious discussion here).

By getalife

April 23, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Well BD,

The only member of the gop that is not a corporate w-hore is Ron Paul.

He was just on Lou Dobbs and his postions are very good.

Of course, the corporate w-hore party will never nominate a real American.

By Paul

April 23, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

getalife

Are you sure you don’t mean Rupaul?

By Buy Danish

April 23, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

Paul,

It seems to me that we may have some time to deal with Iran as a nuclear threat, but we don’t have time to waste dealing with Iran as a terrorist threat, and it is misguided to focus all the attention on that aspect while ignoring all the other things they are doing that imperils us.

Getalife,

Is your opinion on “corporate w*******” given from your experience as a pimp for the Socialist Democrat(ic) Party?

By JP

April 24, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this

Figures..the rightists want to post a link to a reported threat and immediately DEMAND a “plan” to respond, whether or not that threat actually includes the United States and whether or not it’s viable. Sounds like the alarmist foreign policy we’ve grown accustomed to over the last 6 years.

As if they have room to demand anything.

By JP

April 24, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

BD, no toilet paper rationing here, but by God ms. Crow is part of “the American people” that Rove retorted he works for, as if to imply she’s not. She can feel free to speak her mind, though. Would you prefer Dick “Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue but it is not a sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy.” Cheney’s approach?

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

I love Soros,I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…Baisc Liberal talking points..101

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

I love Soros,I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…Baisc Liberal talking points..101

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

I love Soros,I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…Baisc Liberal talking points..101

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

I love Soros,I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…I love Soros I hate Bush…Baisc Liberal talking points..101

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Bush with his preemptive war on Iraq,That has never been done by the US before has it ?? I mean except for ummmm Germany…Ohhh wait they bombed us didnt they …..AS a war veteran,Im goona say this ONCE…Unless you pantywaist,liberal cowards(includes you Luckovich formost) have been there and seen what goes on in war and Iraq and have fought for your country..SHUT the HELL UP…you dont have a CLUE

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Bush with his preemptive war on Iraq,That has never been done by the US before has it ?? I mean except for ummmm Germany…Ohhh wait they bombed us didnt they …..AS a war veteran,Im goona say this ONCE…Unless you pantywaist,liberal cowards(includes you Luckovich formost) have been there and seen what goes on in war and Iraq and have fought for your country..SHUT the HELL UP…you dont have a CLUE

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Bush with his preemptive war on Iraq,That has never been done by the US before has it ?? I mean except for ummmm Germany…Ohhh wait they bombed us didnt they …..AS a war veteran,Im goona say this ONCE…Unless you pantywaist,liberal cowards(includes you Luckovich formost) have been there and seen what goes on in war and Iraq and have fought for your country..SHUT the HELL UP…all your repeating is hear say from left wing loonies that hate Bush and want us to fail…MY GOD whats happened to my country

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the repeats…blog says it wouldnt post it so I hit again,changed it once and aging posted….Ohhhh well thats the ajc blog for ya

By GT,VET

April 24, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the repeats…blog says it wouldnt post it so I hit again,changed it once and aging posted….Ohhhh well thats the ajc blog for ya