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DEL.ICIO.USStaying power?
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By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this
Maybe because he hasn’t done anything wrong?
This isn’t a pinko® popularity contest.
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You liberals own this atrocity (umm, warning):
The surgeon then forces the scissors into the base of the skull or into the foramen magnum. Having safely entered the skull, he spreads the scissors to enlarge the opening. The baby’s little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his little feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors in the back of his head, and the baby’s arms jerked out, like a startle reaction, like a flinch, like a baby does when he thinks he is going to fall.
And from Kathleen Parker:
{{{If the vocabulary is confusing, that’s the point. Using Orwellian language to sanitize the issue, so to speak, is a time-honored tactic of the “pro-choice” arbiters. If we don’t say what it is, we can pretend what it isn’t. Herewith, a brief translation: Disarticulating a fetus, which sounds like suspending a pre-born’s instant-messaging privileges, means to dismember it. Reducing a calvarium — a thoroughly desirable-sounding procedure, like lancing a boil — means to suck the brains from the baby’s head. Separating the calvarium means to sever the head with scissors.}}}
You are the menace to society, repulsive non human scumbags, there is NO excuse for this.
But yet YOU make them.
{{{The main argument from the pro-choice side, and the constitutional issue at stake, has been that the PBA is sometimes needed to protect the health of the mother. But in no single court case were doctors able to demonstrate that PBA was ever a medical necessity. Instead, all arguments were in the realm of the hypothetical.}}}
Sicko.
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By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
Peggy Noonan nails it:
{{{The anxiety of our politicians that there may be an issue that goes unexploited was almost—almost—comic. They mean to seem sensitive, and yet wind up only stroking their supporters. I believe Rep. Jim Moran was first out of the gate with the charge that what Cho did was President Bush’s fault. I believe Sen. Barack Obama was second, equating the literal killing of humans with verbal coarseness. Wednesday there was Sen. Barbara Boxer equating the violence of the shootings with the “global warming challenge” and “today’s Supreme Court decision” upholding a ban on partial-birth abortion.
One watches all of this and wonders: Where are the grown-ups?}}}
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A lib nails it:
{{{ Yet, when one reporter began asking Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine the gun control question at a press conference, Kaine cut him off: “Our focus is on the families and helping this community heal, so to those who want to try to make this into some little crusade, I say take that elsewhere. … For those who want to make this a political hobby horse they can ride, I’ve got nothing but loathing for them. … Let this community heal.”}}}
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Ollie North nails it:
{{{Unfortunately, the homicidal Islamic radicals running Iran are arming themselves with weapons far more lethal than handguns, and the mass murder they plan to perpetrate will kill millions. And yet, if the advice being proffered by Messrs. Gates and Peretz is followed, we will continue to ignore all the warning signs and “talk” with Iran until it is too late.}}}
As always, the libs want to talk and ignore, letting evil grow stronger until it’s too late.
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By Vitual Protester 7676
April 20, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Alberto G
Has got to Go!
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Mac Johnson nails it:
Having a non-human Third Party to champion not only saves you from guilt by association with their human excesses (little things like Pol Pot’s killing fields). But there’s also the very real advantage that no chimpanzee ever said “No, thanks.” Claim to represent the working men and women of Appalachia or Albania, and you may be surprised by the vigor with which they correct your delusions of grandeur. But the Lorax can speak for the trees without fear of contradiction by the forest.
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George Nuemayr nails it:
{{{Once again, liberal justices demand attention to their authority even as they sandblast the document that gives them that authority. Her references to the “Constitution” or “Court” are simply synonymous with her own will and ideology. Why can’t the people pass laws against ghoulish abortion procedures? Because the Founding Fathers wrote a document saying that they couldn’t? No, just because she happens to like a few previous rulings which touted feminism and opined that any law which interferes with feminist ideology should be regarded as unconstitutional.}}}
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By Proud NOT to be a fan of Hollywood
April 20, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
Did all of you sychophant liberals who follow the bleeding-heart, compassionate, for the children crowd hear your heor Alec Baldwin’s rant on the phone at his ELEVEN year old daughter? And just think, he’s the best you can offer in your endless search for love, peace and truth! PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
Did you notice yesterday that Getalife has become an “(partial-birth)Abortion Denier”?
We’ve all heard of “Holocaust Deniers”, but Getalife has gone off in an entirely new direction:
Partial Birth Abortions don’t happen and have never happened. Congress legislated over a procedure that never happens. Nurse Shafer created her testimony out of whole cloth and never saw what she claims she saw.
Clinton vetoed a bill that outlaws a procedure that doesn’t exist, and now the Supreme Court has upheld the legality of the original legislation to ban that non-existent procedure.
I think that pretty well sums up the moonbat liberal mindset.
By George
April 20, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
Sounds like the inmates are running the asylum here today.
By Vitual Protester 385
April 20, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Alberto G
Has got to Go!
By High Ping Bastard
April 20, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
L, Keep up the good work, just remember that AG had his lips on the mic like for every question… WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
Military planners have abandoned the idea that standing up Iraqi troops will enable American soldiers to start coming home soon and now believe that U.S. troops will have to defeat the insurgents and secure control of troubled provinces.
By @@
April 20, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
This one is actually kinda funny ml. A better question would be…
What frustrates these liberals? Is it the fact that Gonzales “can’t” sing or “won’t” sing the tune they wanna hear?
It was open mike night and the protesters were there seeking their own kind of fame and fortune with this “tired old tune”.
{{{Gonzales faced a long day of challenges to his credibility from Democrats and Republicans, while behind him, protesters hooted and sometimes shouted, “Liar!”}}}
{{{Protesters at the back of the room sang a rock tune popular with sports fans when a rival basketball player fouls out of a game: “Hey, hey, hey, goodbye.”}}}
They HOOTED and HEY HEYED???????
Now ^^^ that kind of performance would draw some rotten tomatoes from dignified Americans.
That “red” will still be there in ‘08. Just like it was in 2000 and ‘04.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
Breaking: FBI Raids Rep. Renzi’s Family Business
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this
“Two Bush administration officials who have been linked in scandal are now linked in wedlock.”
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this
Gonzales reviews are in: ‘Like clubbing a baby seal.’CNN’s Dana Bash
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS,
LIKE CLUBBING A BABY SEAL?
YOU LIKE THAT TASTELESS IMAGERY AND HYPERBOLE?
By Virtual Protester 965
April 20, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Alberto G
Has got to Go!
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
Pentagon: Bush lied, we can pay for war through June
By reebok
April 20, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
This is a funny cartoon, a nice break from the wall-to-wall V-tech coverage of the last few days…I believe Miami’s baseball team will be playing at V-Tech in the first sporting event on campus since the massacre. That could be a bleak affair, or it could be uplifting and affirming…hoping for the best.
On a different topic…what has happened to John McCain? Has he completely gone around the bend? What would the right-wing radio hacks have done with the exact same…”joke”…if H Clinton or J Edwards had made it?
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
I’ll be gone for most of the day, but want to leave you with this 2 part contribution about the forced Islamification of Western culture.
These demands have been made by Muslim Student Association, whose stated goal is “Dawah” or spreading Islam:
http://www.startribune.com/191/story/1130134.html ">“Education related government loans should not accumulate interest,” it says, since Islam “opposes usury and involvement with interest-bearing loans.” Other changes would be more focused. The report endorses “women-only” time at athletic facilities, and urges colleges to “provide curtains or screens over the observation windows” when women are using the pool.//The report calls not just for Muslim-only prayer space but for “multiple prayer spaces” with “easy access” from all over campus. All new building plans should include prayer space and ritual washing facilities if necessary, it adds. //Food service workers must learn to prepare halal food, which is ritually slaughtered and otherwise permissible under Sharia law. After preparing non-halal food, staff must “change sanitary gloves and wash cutlery and surfaces” to avoid contaminating halal food.
Those are just the practical demands. Next we’ll learn about plans for “collective” indocrination from the Islamic Thought Police.
To be continued…
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
TASTELESS IMAGERY AND HYPERBOLE?
MCCAIN SINGS: ‘BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN’
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Yes, let’s get rid of Gonzales.
We can appoint an Attorney General that will hound the liberals.
We may need three or four Attorney Generals to keep up with the corruption.
Feinstein, Plame, Pelosi, Reid, Jefferson, Murtha, Reyes.
And that’s just to start.
Hey ho, let’s go.
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By @@
April 20, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
Ol’ IN THE NEWS Needlenose reports…you decide!!!
{{{Military officials say there’s no doubt that the November U.S. elections, which gave Democrats control of both houses of Congress, helped push training down the priority list. The elections, they said, made it clear that voters didn’t have the patience to wait for Iraqis to take the lead.}}}
{{{“To the extent we are losing the American public, we were losing” in the transition approach, said a senior military commander in Washington.}}}
Democrats push the training of Iraqis down the priorities list?
Proud Democrats, supporting defeat.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
Now ^^^ that kind of performance would draw some rotten tomatoes from dignified Americans.
WBC to picket funeral of Ryan Clark, who was killed at the Virginia Tech Massacre - at 3:15 p.m., Sat., April 21 - at Lakeside High School, 522 Blue Ridge Drive, Evans, Georgia
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
My only question is who is going to pay for the Tolerance Camps for those who fail IslamoStalinism 101. The taxpayers?:
What if a campus fails to make these changes, and others like them? It is guilty, says the report, of “Islamophobia” — an “emerging form of racism,” according to the Ontario Human Rights Commission. Islamophobia includes more than clearly inappropriate behavior such as violence against Muslims or unreasonable suspicion of them. It can be as “subtle” as a remark that includes a “stereotype” or betrays the speaker’s “lack of understanding” of Islam (such as the notion that Sharia law treats women as second class citizens). Just “one comment” of this kind can create a “poisoned” learning environment for Muslim students, the report says.//”Islamophobic” comments will soon land Canadians in serious trouble, if the federation has its way. The report outlines a comprehensive system “to encourage and facilitate a culture of reporting Islamophobia on campus. Anti-discrimination officers should be notified whenever such a comment is made, it says.//But the report makes clear that systems like this will not eradicate Islamophobia from Canadian campuses. To remove stereotypes, faculty, staff, students and administrators must all learn “the tenets of Islam,” it said. “Education modules” for professors should incorporate a focus on “Islam and Islamophobia,” while student activities could range from more courses on themes of the Qur’an and the Islamic world today to “socials, programs and other initiatives” to teach about Islam. Everyone on campus should learn to recognize his or her “collective responsibility to identify and stop Islamophobia.” //Throughout this process, however, Islam must not be taught from a “Western perspective.” This qualifies as Islamophobia, because it “misrepresents Islam.” At the same time, the report says, some Muslim students have called for integrating “Islamic perspectives” in disciplines such as marketing, nursing and finance,” since Islam’s view of these differs from those of the West.
No kidding.
Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology that has been co-opted by Fascists and Marxists.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Well, if you call obstruction of justice not doing anything wrong, you have lost the rule of law.
Ganzo will not resign and w will not fire him.
The Dept. of Justice (sic) is just part of the worst administration in history. We are no longer a nation of laws.
If you go back and look at all the changes to our country and think it is for the better, I have no more words to describe this insanity.
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS,
THAT GROUP OF KANSAS KOOKS ARE VILE, SOCIALPATHIC AND HATEFUL KOOKS AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DISRUPT FUNERALS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM CHARGED WITH HARRASSMENT, BUT THE A.C.L.U. WOULD JUMP TO THEIR DEFENSE.
later folks…
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
LMAO— great ‘toon! And many of us are asking why a few others are still around: Cheney, Rover, and Rice for instance… the damage they’ve done to America and the rest of the world can’t be ignored while these congressional hearings are taking place.
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
Before I go…
“Abortion Denier” Getalife,
You don’t think you know what “obstruction of justice” means.
I personally don’t care if Gonzales resigns because I think he’s a wimp. However, he is not guilty of obstructing anything except the false charges your Democrat Comrades have made, and he is guilty of a degree of incompetence.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
“By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this
Maybe because he hasn’t done anything wrong?”
He has certainly done something wrong.
As White House counsel he authored memoranda that called the Geneva Conventions as being “quaint” and “obsolete”.
He couldn’t do anything more powerful to drag the good name of the United States and the Flag of the United States through the mud.
And - he knew that this was not the case that the GC’s were either obsolete or quaint, as the SCOTUS ruled in the Hamdi case.
Now yesterday we found Ms. Dusty opining that Jose Padilla had been convicted of a crime when the exact opposite case was true and had been in the news off and on for over five years.
It just escaped her notice.
So it shouldn’t be forgotten that Gonzales concept of “enemy combatant” has no basis in fact. The GC’s make -no- exception as to -any combatant. It applies to all.
So yes, Gonzales has done something -very- wrong.
He made up a legal opinion from whole cloth, when the record was plainly against it.
Walt
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
Proud Democrats, supporting defeat.
Americans: Withdrawal is not “surrender.” From a new Fox News poll:
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
Secty. Gates understands that the clock is ticking in Iraq… how long before he finally convinces our Non-Commander-in-Chief that we’re only wasting our resources there:
A suicide bomber infiltrated the parliament building in the heavily fortified Green Zone a week ago, dealing a blow to the U.S.-led effort to pacify the capital’s streets. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki called the violence in Baghdad an “open battle.”
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
What the hell would you call a campus Baptist fellowship whose goal in part is to witness to nonbelievers and get them to embrace Evangelical Christianity?
By Walt
April 20, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
“Ollie North nails it:
{{{Unfortunately, the homicidal Islamic radicals running Iran are arming themselves with weapons far more lethal than handguns, and the mass murder they plan to perpetrate will kill millions…”
Ollie North the convicted felon?
There is not a shred of proof of what he says.
Walt
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
And the Repugs find John “the Bomb” McCain funny:
“That old, eh, that old Beach Boys song, ‘Bomb Iran,”’ McCain joked and then added: “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb … anyway, ah …” The audience responded with laughter.
Everybody now:
“Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran”… add HARMONY:
“bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran”… add FORTISIMO:
“BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB Iran”.
Oh, how funny those Repugnants are!
By @@
April 20, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS:
That group from Westboro Baptist are disgusting opportunists, and in no way, affiliated with the Baptist conference.
I would love to throw rotten tomatoes at them. They may be stepping into a hornet’s nest of recent laws.
Dahn and others may have the law on their side. In 2006, in response to protests at the funerals of dead U.S. soldiers, Virginia enacted a law that added funerals and memorial services to the state’s disorderly conduct statute. Other states have adopted similar measures to allow police to keep WBC protesters out of earshot.
May they rot in hell with my tomato stains all over them.
Please take notice in my link, how they also HATE Catholics and Jews.
Not one conservative here has ever expressed those sentiments, but…….
…..would you like to share with us which side has? You are, afterall, IN THE NEWS. Are you fair and balanced?
By Shawny
April 20, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
Here’s the link to that Kathleen Parker article. Read it, it is quite good.
And by the way, John McCain was funny. Lighten up. Weren’t all ya’ll defending Kerry’s “botched joke” some time back?
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
We’ll know for sure that Gonzales is doing nothing but pandering to Democrats as soon as he kidnaps an immigrant child and ships him off to live in a dictatorship and/or firebombs a church.
Thomas,
What felony does Ollie North stand convicted of?
By getalife
April 20, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
BD,
Its the WH and the missing emails. Ganzo is just w’s buddy pretending to run the Justice (sic) Dept.
If you watched the hearing yesterday, they want to go after the WH.
This lead to w’s meltdown yesterday.
He thinks he is campaigning again and mumbled this crap:
_”Politics comes and goes, but your principles don’t. And everybody wants to be loved _ not everybody. … You never heard anybody say, `I want to be despised, I’m running for office.’”
_”The best thing about my family is my wife. She is a great first lady. I know that sounds not very objective, but that’s how I feel. And she’s also patient. Putting up with me requires a lot of patience.”
_”There are jobs Americans aren’t doing. … If you’ve got a chicken factory, a chicken-plucking factory, or whatever you call them, you know what I’m talking about.”
_”There are some similarities, of course” between Iraq and Vietnam. “Death is terrible.”
_”I’ve been in politics long enough to know that polls just go poof at times.”
As he has before, Bush told the story about how his first presidential decision was to pick a rug for the Oval Office, a task he quickly cast to his wife. He told her to make sure the rug reflected optimism “because you can’t make decisions unless you’re optimistic that the decisions you make will lead to a better tomorrow.”
Later, when he talked about his hope for succeeding in Iraq, Bush said, “Remember the rug?”
By Filthy Republican Appeasers
April 20, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
BAGHDAD - Making his third visit in four months to Iraq, Defense Secretary Robert Gates took a decidedly stronger tone as he warned the troubled nation’s leaders that American patience is wearing thin.
Stinkin filthy coward Republican appeasers keep emboldening the insurgents with warnings of cuttin n runnin if the Iraqi authority doesn’t meet the Republican ‘TIMETABLE’ which appears to be based on American patience wearing too thin ! ! ! LMAO
Not to worry, though. Now that Republicans have gotten our collective a*******es kicked needlessly in Iraq and demonstrated to the world that America truely IS a paper tiger in todays world political landcape, they’ll blame it on their old strawman, the Democrats.
‘Yeh, we screwed up but we still coulda won it if only the Democrats…………’, ‘if only the liberals……’, ‘if only the terrorists’…….., ‘if only, if only, if only…………….’
‘If only King George had engaged his brain before his balls……………..’
‘If only Congressional Republicans hadn’t rubber-stamped every misstep………’
‘If only I hadn’t voted Republican…………’
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
So, we’re now erecting walls between Sunnis and Shiites… or not? We have some U.S. forces building concrete walls with checkpoints, and then we have one of our generals saying that’s not our policy. Typical Bush “policy.”
Three-mile barrier will divide Baghdad groups torn by sectarian hate
And of course, the Iraqis themselves know the real cause of their problems, as stated in the last paragraphs:
{“I don’t think this wall will solve the city’s serious security problems,” said Ahmed Abdul-Sattar, 35, a government worker. “It will only increase the separation between our people, which has been made so much worse by the war.”}
By Virtual Protester 26
April 20, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Alberto G
Has got to go!
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Shawny,
There’s a big difference. McCain was joking about a bunch of Islamofacist nutjobs, in other words the Democrat(ic) side. Kerry was insulting the United States military which is a time honored moonbat tradition.
By JP
April 20, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull this one’s for you—do you think this is “anything wrong”?
For six years, the Bush administration, aided by Justice Department political appointees, has pursued an aggressive legal effort to restrict voter turnout in key battleground states in ways that favor Republican political candidates..
By getalife
April 20, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Reid is finally stating what the American people already know.
We can’t win this occupation and only big oil gets the oil if they can pass the oil law.
Just more slaughter until we leave.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
JP,
Buy Danish showed you yesterday that there isn’t a shred off evidence in that story to back up the initial charge it makes. Are you sure you’re up for this blog? Go back to Wooten’s playground and practice, please.
By JP
April 20, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
RW, I must have missed Buy Danish’s stunning intellectual masterpiece. His others have been so effective. (ha!)
As for Wooten, sorry—I can’t take the stupidity anymore. I don’t “think right.” Wouldn’t if I could, thank you.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
Another suicide attack hits Baghdad
Relentless attacks continue after bloodiest day since US surge began
By Dianna
April 20, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
I can’t read the small print on the woman’s t-shirt; what does it say?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
A strategy for after the veto.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this
JP,
You don’t need her rebuttal, just go to your very own link and come back with hard evidence that backs your charge.
Thank you in advance.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Court Rules Against Bush Administration: DoJ Failed To Show ‘That Any Voter Fraud Occurred’
By JP
April 20, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
And RW, The only thing that seems to be lacking in justification is the Republican charges of voter fraud. Everything I read shows it’s very rare. Dead people aren’t voting, despite what the alarmists on the right want us to believe.
Isn’t it obvious that’s why the Rove crew had such confidence about the fall elections in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary? They figured many of those being polled would be disqualified and unable to vote. Just my theory, but it’s an intriguing one.
—
With any other president, Gonzales’ departure would be a fait accompli. Even National Review’s Byron York called Gonzales’ morning testimony “disastrous,” while CNN reported all sorts of extreme criticisms coming from unnamed White House aides. Bush fires those who are disloyal. Those who are subservient and loyal are never fired, no matter their level of incompetence or corruption.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
Rove: ‘I Wish The Iraq War Never Existed,’ It Was ‘Osama Bin Laden’s Idea
By JP
April 20, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
RW, just because North’s conviction was overturned on a technicality does not mean the man deserves any respect or that he was truly not guilty. You’d say the same of Clinton, right—that he is guilty despite not being convicted in his impeachment proceedings?
North’s employment as an “expert” of some sort by Fox News is yet another example of their lack of judgment and lack of interest in truly being a respectable news organization.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
Can conservative bloggers tell the truth?
By Midori
April 20, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
JP,
I posted that story yesterday, and was met with “where’s the smoking gun”????
Wingnuts are very, very selective. Therefore, they don’t dwell on the facts or the story, or the validity of same.
They would rather dwell on what’s “pertinent” to them, as in: What color is the smoke? Is it red, white or blue? How thick is the smoke? Thick, thin, creamy? And if it’s creamy, is it too creamy, like creamed corn?
If the above criteria does not go in line with their leaps of logic, the information in any news story is thereby dismissed as irrelevant or untrue.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
A Direct, As Yet Unreported Connection in the U.S. Attorney Purge Scandal Leading Straight to the White House Arkansas U.S. Attorney Bud Cummins Was Fired Just After Reports Surfaced of Investigation into Law Firm of Top Level White House/GOP Operative and Close-Friend-of-Rove, Thor Hearne Prosecutor Was Replaced by Rove Aide Timothy Griffin…
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
JP,
Your theory is neither intriguing nor evidence of a widespread conspiracy to deny voting rights. Please attempt to deal in fact rather than emotion, but you’ll have to do it with someone else for now.
I’ll be back this afternoon to read all the factual cases you’re able to unearth. I’m something of a crusader against true government corruption, so if you find any factual evidence you might find me on your side.
If you continue to deal exclusively in theory, innuendo, and hysteria you won’t.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Gonzales: We Should Be “Sensitive” about Voter Fraud
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Midori,
The story would be relevant if there was any item of fact to back up the fantastical charges made in the first paragraph.
Did you learn anything in journalism school? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!! freaking parrot…
Later!
By Virtual Protester 3
April 20, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Hey Hey
Ho Ho
Alberto G
Has got to go!
EVERYBODY!!!
By JP
April 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
RW, look at the mounds of evidence in stories all over the internets. The only way you can seriously distrust that article’s conclusion is by ignoring the evidence. You’d also have to assume that request after request for information have been denied not out of anything to hide, but simply because the WHite House thinks they’re not subject to oversight. (In either case they’re dead wrong.)
I’m sure you’re ignoring what’s coming out and what’s not being ALLOWED to come out, just as I’m sure you believe this is a made-up scandal. Given that, my guess is we share absolutely no common ground.
Hard for me to provide you concrete citations if the White House won’t hand over anything relevant, and uses gwb43.com email accounts to avoid record-keeping, now isn’t it?
Personally, I’m with this guy: A Gonzales resignation is not enough: Congress should demand that a special prosecutor get to the bottom of why the U.S. attorneys were fired.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
“In a question-and-answer period after his speech, Rove was asked whose idea it was to start a pre-emptive war in Iraq.
“I think it was Osama bin Laden’s,” Rove replied.”
Oh man, here we go.
The buck stops with OBL but w spewed Iraq had nothing to do with 9/1/.
Of course, Rove is insulting real American’s intellegence.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H.L.Mencken
“It’s amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency.” —George W. Bush, June 14, 2001, speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling.
Well, Rove may have a point about the wingnut’s intelligence.
Geez.
By Midori
April 20, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
RW,
I’m aware that Rushncap isn’t around today.
However, I’m not in the mood for being stalked.
Sorry.
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
Every day when I look at a Luckovich cartoon I think, “Why is this bozo still around?”
To Walt the Wonder Boy @9:16
When you retract your question to me ,”ARE YOU A NAZI?” as of yesterday, I will REPEAT my correction on Padilla. He is still in jail and he is being tried for being a traitor to the USA. Walt really likes him. So does N.GA.
By Midori
April 20, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
and every day that Dusty shows up with here “how dare you Luckovich, blah, blah” crap, I think: “Why is this bozo still around?”
By @@
April 20, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS:
This Phelps guy from Westboro Baptist is a real “nutcase” whose opinions are all over the map.
Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998.
In that link Republicans have spoken out against his “hateful tactics”, but I didn’t see where any Democrats did. Maybe I missed it.
See if you can find where they did. You ARE “IN THE NEWS” afterall. You seem very interested in the guy.
Moreso than I am.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
JP,
So lack of evidence of a crime is proof of a crime now???
Weird and now I’ve really got to get going. I knew you wouldn’t be able to back your charges. It must suck being a liberal that attempts to pull your lame BS on a conservative that has the audacity to ask for the proof. Bye!
By Midori
April 20, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
and every day that Andy shows up to be the first to post his full of crap manifestos on this blog, I wonder: “Why is this bozo still here?”
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
{{{By RW-(the original) April 20, 2007 9:33 AM LuckoDull, We’ll know for sure that Gonzales is doing nothing but pandering to Democrats as soon as he kidnaps an immigrant child and ships him off to live in a dictatorship and/or firebombs a church.}}}
And when he lays siege to the property of a man charged with a weapons violation, shooting to death his wife while she holds an infant child in her arms.
Perhaps Reno was trying to “abort” the child and missed?
(Why do the libs always direct violence towards babies? Is that not just so weird and depraved? They knew there were children at Waco too, they still set the place on fire.)
Sickos.
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By Old Fashioned
April 20, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
If GWB, Rove, Cheney, Giulliani, Romney, McCain, LuckoDull, RW, Danish, Dusty and the like are ‘new’ (neo) conservatives, I think I’d rather just stick with being ‘old’ fashioned.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
“By getalife
April 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Well, if you call obstruction of justice not doing anything wrong, you have lost the rule of law.
Ganzo will not resign and w will not fire him.”
A few months ago, the NY Times published a piece by James Bamford calling for investigations of the Bush Adminstration and noting that when the Watergate mess started to break, the Justice Department -began- to-investigate-the Nixon-White-House.
With Gonzales in the AG role, Bush’s handlers (and probably Cheney played a role) were able to preclude even the idea of an independent DoJ.
So Bush -can’t- fire Gonzales.
Seriously.
Because Bush won’t nominate anyone who would really act as a law enforcement officer.
I wonder, too, about the voter fraud scam the Bush people are/were pushing.
They must know unless they change things fundamentally, they are all going to prison when the new administration comes in.
Declaring elections null and void may be what they have in mind.
Nothing is beyond these horrible people.
Walt
By getalife
April 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
The wingnuts are biased towards the cult in Waco.
I think I am correct about these cult freaks.
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
RW @10:02
Midori went to journalism school? Surely you jest.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
MassenDull,
You’re biitching and moaning about the Clinton administration is a great, but sad example of how wingnuts are still stuck on the Clintons after controlling both the Executive and Legislative branches of the Federal government. You couldn’t be happy with that, so instead you continue to bleat about Clinton. Losers don’t know how to be victors.
Also, little Elian was reunited with his father. Castro is a tyrant, but at least the kid is guaranteed health care and a good education.
The Branch Davidians were a cult that committed mass suicide by fire. It’s funny how wingnuts have no sympathy for Katrina victims, but yet they champion the rights of a cult who barricaded themselves into a heavily fortified compound and abused children.
By Botched Abortions
April 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
The following are products of botched abortions: Andi, Bi Danish, RW, @@, and Dusty.
Abortion needs to be done right.
By JP
April 20, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
RW—No, just as withholding of evidence doesn’t prove innocence. These people need to comply with the Oversight Committee’s request so that we can know the truth. But it’s already clear they never will.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Walt,
Yep, I am all out of outrage.
I think I will just resort to laughing at idiocy of the wingnuts.
I mean, if they can’t see what is happening to our country at this point.
They never will.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
The Bush administration has used the Justice Department to manipulate voter turnout in “battleground states” in ways that favor Republicans over the past six years, writes Greg Gordon for the McClatchy Newspapers
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this
CBS News: Violence suggests Iraq ‘surge’ is failing
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Soldier Leaves Dying Mother to Return to War
By JP
April 20, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Although the White House recently rewrote a careful federal study by the Election Assistance Commission to hide that basic fact, it remains true that very few individuals intentionally seek to fabricate a registration or cast an illegal ballot. There are exceptions, of course—most notably illustrated by Republican celebrity Ann Coulter.
By @@
April 20, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
Well holy moley! Westboro Baptist (not affiliated with the Baptist Conference) is a cult.
Oh my!!! Phelps loves Fidel Castro. Offered to help Fidel by sending his flock to carry Anti-American posters.
That’s like carrying water for the liberals here isn’t it?
He’s a big Saddam fan too. Radical muslims are all the rage with him. He thinks they’re right and justified in their actions.
Man, the guy IS A DEMOCRAT.
Alright, I’m bored with the guy now. Just like I’m bored with the Democrats.
See ‘ya.
By Scooter
April 20, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
Pretty witty toon ml, its a nice change from your M.O.
Well, since I know the “media” really only reports the successes of the “insurgents” I am going to sift through the internet for stories of the Iraqi troops trying to do as Bush planned. Then maybe I will search out reports on reconstruction projects. Funny how nobody knows about the reconstruction. Isn’t it ml? I’m sure you can draw us a defeatist toon about Iraqi Contractors putting up electrical transmission lines and the “insurgents” blowing them up.
‘Strengthened and stabilized the electrical transmission grid through the completion of six 132/400kV substations and six overhead line projects affecting 425,000 households and 2.1 million Iraqi citizens.’ ‘Completed construction of 51 33/11kV substations affecting 825,000 homes (4.5 million people or 17 percent of the Iraqi population).’ ‘Employed an average of 7,000 Iraqi citizens per week.’
It’s a shame that if you want to keep up with the success of the enemy all you have to do is read a paper or talk to a liberal, the true patriots. But, if you want to read about the successes in the mission our troops have been charged with it is extremely difficult. Objectivity?
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
Ah well,
When Democrats get through with their inquisition of Gonzales about the firing of the NINE US attorneys, perhaps they will investigate the firing of NINETY THREE by Clinton’s Attorney General.
Surely there must have been good justifiable reasons for firing NINETY THREE in one sweep by Clinton’s AG. Maybe Gonzales should give the same “excuses” for the NINE that Clinton’s man gave. Or did anybody even ask?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
Guns, Drugs, and the Massacre in Virginia Why aren’t handguns as strictly regulated as prescription medication?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
ANOTHER LEAVING THE DARK SIDE
Sen. Olympia J. Snowe announced she would sponsor a bill to require American commanders to plan a withdrawal within 120 days of the bill’s enactment, unless the Iraqi government meets a series of benchmarks.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Hey Scooter,
Just saw a lovely story about a governor in Iraq.
He spent millions building a park with two soccer fields, flowers, a really nice park.
The only problem, it is empty.
The people are too scared to come to the park.
Now that is freedom.
Geez.
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Apparently, there are still a few “old fashioned” conservatives in Congress, the ones who know what the term “conservative” is supposed to mean. Old fashioned cons do not support invading other countries and overthrowing their govts., all because “he tried to kill my Daddy!”:
Sen. Olympia J. Snowe announced she would sponsor a bill to require American commanders to plan a withdrawal within 120 days of the bill’s enactment, unless the Iraqi government meets a series of benchmarks.
By @@
April 20, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Getalife is “all out of outrage”?
On your best day with your best brainpower on drugs you ARE OUTRAGEOUS. (ISH)
I left you a question on last night’s thread.
What are all those “bumps” on your ^^^ brain?
Now I’m gone.
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
Gore/Obama ‘08!
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Just How Lame Is the “Clinton Did It,Too” Charge?
By getalife
April 20, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
@@,
Phelps is a full blown wingnut.
Stand proud with your kooky, cult friends.
You made that choice.
Geez.
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
{{{By getalife April 20, 2007 10:24 AM The wingnuts are biased towards the cult in Waco.}}}
So let me get this straight, it was O.K. for the Federal Government under Clinton/ Reno to gas and burn 50 children because their parents were in a cult?
Are you libs sure about this?
Sickos.
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{{{By steve-o April 20, 2007 10:25 AM MassenDull, You’re biitching and moaning about the Clinton administration is a great, but sad example of how wingnuts are still stuck on the Clintons after controlling both the Executive and Legislative branches of the Federal government. You couldn’t be happy with that, so instead you continue to bleat about Clinton. Losers don’t know how to be victors.}}}
Actually, numb nuts, it is impossible for us to understand how you pinkos could ignore the overwhelming multitude of crimes committed by Clinton and company but now you conduct rabid, foaming show trials without the slightest bit of evidence that ANY crime was even committed.
Hypocrisy and bald faced partisanship of this magnitude is hard for us to overlook, dumb as-s.
{{{Also, little Elian was reunited with his father. Castro is a tyrant, but at least the kid is guaranteed health care and a good education.}}}
According to the New York Times, hahaha, they think a bullet in the back of the head is a perfectly acceptable cure for the underprivileged, jeez.
{{{The Branch Davidians were a cult that committed mass suicide by fire.}}}
Perhaps you haven’t seen the videotape of the federal tanks rolling into the compound and starting the fire that killed all the children.
You call that “suicide?”
{{{It’s funny how wingnuts have no sympathy for Katrina victims, but yet they champion the rights of a cult who barricaded themselves into a heavily fortified compound and abused children.}}}
Let’s see, William Jefferson, democrat, diverted rescue vehicles to get personal belongings from his home.
Ray Nagin, democrat, abandoned whole entire neighborhoods, while nearby fleets of school buses flooded.
A 95% liberal city abandoned bed ridden hospital patients to the flood waters, allowing them the opportunity to learn how to swim without the use of their arms or legs.
WTF have Republicans done that is so bad?
Cut off funding to the dope smoking alcohol drenched parade through the flood damaged neighborhoods?
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Ooops
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By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
McCain Demanded Kerry Apologize For Botched Joke, Now Tells Critics To ‘Get A Life’
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Here’s what Bush’s “freedom in Iraq” really looks like:
Car Bombs, and Pain, Define a War With No Place to Hide
Americans will never forget:
“Freedom’s on the march!”
“We’ve turned another corner!”
“We’ll be greeted as liberators!”
“No evidence of Sunni and Shia… Iraq has always been a secular nation…”
“Smoking gun… mushroom cloud…”
Lying liars — impeach Cheney!
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Oh please, Goldie, do keep up the humor. Gore/Obama “08?????
Ho Ho Gore’s gotta go!! He’s really going to run some mo’? Again and again and again! Don’t Democrats EVER learn?
While you are joking, how about a Sharpton/Sheehan ticket? Or a Clinton/Fonda ticket? Waxman/Baldwin?They’re all good Democrats.
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
I hope this lib doesn’t have any guns:
{{{Alec Baldwin’s spokesperson released the following statement to the TV show “EXTRA”: “In the best interest of the child, Alec will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing … keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order. The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order. Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years.”}}}
Yowwww.
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By bon scott
April 20, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
Different day, same paranoid delusions from the wingnuts. Andy, you’re a laugh a minute. You STILL think that, 7 years later, everything is Clinton’s fault. RW, you’re not much better. Danish, the only thing Muslims are REALLY good at is fighting eachother.
As the Gonzalez testimony showed yesterday, when he testified “I don’t recall” SCORES of times, BushCo is clueless. Democrats on the panel aren’t fooled. Neither are GOP members.
Not a single Republican, with the possible exception of Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, came to Mr. Gonzales’s defense — not even his old Texas friend Senator John Cornyn. And Mr. Gonzales did not help himself with his testimony that while he took full responsibility for removing federal prosecutors, he did not have a clear idea of why he had done so in some cases until he reviewed paperwork after the dismissals
The incompetency of the Bush regime, the corruption and cronyism, the Iraq debacle, the bungled war on terror…
Bush wants a legacy. He’ll get one, as the worst US President in US history.
As far as the so called “partial birth” abortion decision, it won’t mattter. Only a handful are performed annually, some under undoubtedly unethical circumstances. I condemn the. But BushCo will have as much success enforcing this restriction as it has had in the war in Iraq, the war on terror, Katrina, struggling stocks (just wait!), a collapsing housing market (anybody wanna buy a Buckhead condo? Cheap?) etc., etc., etc.
It’s bad enough when you make terrible mistakes. It’s unforgivable when you keep repeating those mistakes over and over and over and over… insisting all along that you’re perfect.
Later. Some of us have work to do.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
Strange, isn’t it, how the Republicans who spend their days calling liberals and Democrats a bunch of wimps turn into a clutch of shivering mice at the thought of facing left-wing protestors?
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
The Repugnants are so desperate these days, they may want to consider these ‘08 tickets to really energize their party:
“Pat Buchanan/David Duke ‘08”
“Mitt Romney/Pat Robertson ‘08”
“Jeb Bush/Neil Bush ‘08”
“Newt Gingrich/Bob Barr ‘08”
Real winning tickets, yes?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
Oh please, DUSTY, do keep up the humor.
Jon Stewart Evaluates the ‘08 Republican Field
By JP
April 20, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Ha! If all else fails, Clinton did it too!!
By JP
April 20, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
I have nothing to hide, except the truth!
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Oh my goodness, yet ANOTHER self appointed Cammander-in-Chief, the one and only Olympia Snow who has now decided to direct the troops.
It was bad enough having Pelosi appoint herself, and “Commander” Murtha putting himself in charge. I tell you, the military is getting so full of these “Commanders”, Democrats won’t have anybody left in Congress.
I say give these “Commanders” AK47s and send them to Iraq. They should be with the troops they decided to “command”.
In the meantime, the real Commander-in-Chief, the President of the USA, will continue to do the real job with General Petraeus.
The rest of us will watch the Democratic comedians in Congress trying to “get their act together”.
By JP
April 20, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Ray Nagin, democrat, abandoned whole entire neighborhoods, while nearby fleets of school buses flooded.
Nagin controversially endorsed conservative Republican Bobby Jindal over Democratic Lieutenant Governor Kathleen Blanco in the 2003 runoff for governor. He only reluctantly endorsed the Democratic candidate, U.S. Senator John Kerry, in the 2004 presidential race.
Nagin is a Democrat In Name Only.
Nagin:
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
MassenDull,
Yes, I saw the tanks roll in and spray tear gas, but I didn’t see them throwing fire bombs, so yes, I believe that it was a mass suicide.
As far as Clinton, he was impeached, but yet a GOP-controlled Congress didn’t see the need to fire him…CASE CLOSED!
William Jefferson is corrupt, Nagin has diarrhea of the mouth. I’m a Democrat and I acknowledge this. But you wingnuts will never admit any fault on behalf of the Federal government because of your blind allegiance to your child-king.
Also, since when did New Orleans and Lousisiana become bations of liberalism. They do have a Democrat mayor of NOLA and a Dem governor, but that state is very RED and has voted for Bush in the past two elections. You would think that they would’ve gotten some sort of prompt service.
By LOCAL RECRUITER
April 20, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
DUSTY AT 11:34 SAYS TO GIVE MS SNOWE A GUN AND SEND HER TO IRAQ
WOW—-
GUESS THAT MEANS SHE GONNA DRAG HER WALMART_SHOPPING FAST FOOD ADDICTED FAUX NEWS WATCHING SHOT GUN TOTING 5TH GRADE READING LEVEL MENTALLY STUNTED NEOCON BUTT KISSING CHICKENHAWK THUNDER THIGHS (YES THOSE PANTS MAKE YOU LOOK FAT) A$$ IN TO MY OFFICE TO SIGN UP
WALK THE TALK TOOTSIE
DONT STUMBLE THE MUMBLE
YOU ARE RIDUCULOUS….
By getalife
April 20, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Could you imagine Hillary doing this same crap as w?
The wingnuts would howling from the rooftops.
Karma.
By Joe Right
April 20, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
How about a Luckovich cartoon showing an AJC reader with the paper spread open to the editorial page showing his cartoon, but at the bottom the signature is prominently displayed in bold - CHO-SEUNG HUI I think that would really capture Luckovich’s day to day work.
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS
You give us a link to “Crooks and Liars” blog? We’ve got enough liberals here doing that without you adding any more of the same.
And speaking of liars, that was why Clinton was impeached. He lied. That is on the record.
I am sure you and Steve-o will try to say that Bush has lied. He has not. Also, he will not be impeached (as suggested by liberals) because he has broken no laws.
Most Democrats know that. Only the “whackos” without brains keep suggesting such stupid folly. But then the Democrats have all kinds, sad to say.
Too bad Democrats can’t give even a little support to this country in time of war.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Yep, just got to laugh at the idiotic crap like Joe mama just spewed.
Geez.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Any of the folks that you mentioned @11:12 would be a step up from the child-king that currently resides in the White House.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
LIAR LIAR
Approval through osmosis.
By Scooter
April 20, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this
Getalife, I would hate to be so short sighted that I assume those soccer fields are going to be empty forever.
Does sharia law allow soccer? If not, when your “independent thinking” crew forces us to give in to hopelessness and despair, and we give up on the thousands of Iraqis honestly fighting for their government and freedom, those soccer fields will never be used.
I choose to see some positive and hope in the LONG TERM while you choose to be outraged at the isolated terror of the “insurgents”. Are you so outraged Bush opened the lid on a “contained slaughter” that you simply want to put the lid back on and ensure a “contained” blood-bath?
You see Getalife, I think removing Saddam was something that needed to be done because he never showed any real promise of giving up his ambitions. Did you or any of your independent, truth finding fiends see Saddam do something that lead you to believe he changed from the lying a$$ Saddam we knew for 12 years? Once we removed Saddam and his sons, we created a power vacuum that will be filled. I want to be sure it is filled with a government representative of the people of Iraq and you are resolved to give it over to whoever can spread the most intimidation and fear.
We are fighting an ideology of intimidation and fear bred in a region of the world and that ideology knows no borders. I don’t care how many 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, you can continue to whack moles and ignore “contained” slaughters, but those contained slaughters are likely to create more moles than we can whack.
Enjoy your outrage “Joe”, I’m going out to work on the car and enjoy this beautiful spring day.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
You got that right crusty,
That credible, award winning blog posting videos has got be lies.
Geez, what an idiot.
Is Joe mama your son?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
CHAMBLISS AND ISAKSON ARE NOT ON THE LIST
12 Senators Left! Keep Calling.
By Joe Right
April 20, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Hey, Get a life, please. but then on second thought just stay without one, since it not do anybody any good
By the way how’s yo mama?
By Power of Light
April 20, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
The end is near. Soon, we will all be disarmed and our true enemy will consolidate.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
“The Branch Davidians were a cult that committed mass suicide by fire. It’s funny how wingnuts have no sympathy for Katrina victims, but yet they champion the rights of a cult who barricaded themselves into a heavily fortified compound and abused children.”
That is what FOX tells them to do.
Walt
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Bush Lied About Lots Of Things Sure Did. Here’s Even More
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Bush never lied? BWAHAHAHAHA!
You need to put down the sonny cheeba or brown sugar or whatever it is you’re smoking and re-evaluate what you just said.
“There is a link between Iraq and 9/11”
“Mobile labs for building WMDs”
“We are in the final throes of the insurgency”
“The war will basically pay for itself”
“MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”
Either Bush has never lied or he is utterly the DUMBEST and most NAIVE leader the world has ever seen.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
Top Ten Bush Lies
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
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The Original Lyrics - During Krazy Khomeni’s days
Bom Bomb Bomb - Bomb Bomb Iran Chorus- Bom Bomb Bomb -
Bomb Bomb IranLet’s Bomb Iran —
Please Bomb Iran -
Oh Bomb Iran ——
— 1) We’ll be Rockin’ and a Rollin as we hit the Ayatolla - Bomb Iran!
2) They’ll be shiftin’ and a blowing as we set the sands a glowin’ - Bomb Tehran!
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Lets all bomb Iran - oh baby
Lets all bomb Iran - go crazy
lets all Bomb Iran ————-
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
The List of Bush’s Lies and Policy Failures
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
What’s even more hilarious is that wingnuts know that they can’t even defend this sham of a war so they resort to attacking what some celebrity has said. Lately, it seems that their favorite target is Rosie O’Donnell on the View. Seriously, this one comedian on a daytime talk-show is undermining America according to wingnuts!! It’s too freaking hilarious!
By Power of Light
April 20, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Walt,
The Branch Davidian incident was a dress rehearsal for what is to come. The VT tragedy was designed to increase the desire for gun control which will lead to the disarmament of US citizens. We are under siege by an extremely political and mental war strategy.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
No, that park will be filled when we stop the occupation.
I was happy to see the governor spending money on their people.
Their corruption is far worse than ours.
I tend to look at the results and consequences of the occupation. There are too many to list and you will ignore anyway.
The bottom line, w has made it much worse. The biggest mistake in our history.
But hey, I do like your resolve like w. Never change your thinking when change is constant.
Have a great day “Nate”.
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
LOCAL RECRUITER aka harold aka imbecile who can’t use lower case letters,
Don’t bother me with your trash at recess time. And please ask your teacher for typing instructions. Unless you need “big” letters to read with your big eye glasses, those “little” letters are much nicer.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Joe mama,
Fine, thanks and yours?
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
I just read “The Branch Davidians” are rebuilding and opening a museum.
Should be a must go vacation spot for the wingnuts.
Cult freaks.
Geez.
By RE
April 20, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
Ok, on a lighter note, I have always wondered what happens when the right wing folks, andy, RW bd, dusty et al. do when “Hunt for Red October” comes on.
I mean it is a great movie by itself, the best of the Tom Clancy movies, pro american… etc.
But then you have to root for Alec Baldwin the whole movie. It must be such a dilemma.
By LOCAL RECRUITER
April 20, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
DUSTY HAS NO DEFENSE FOR HER I’D RATHER BE A COUCH POTATO THAN BE A SOLDIER LIFE STYLE
ITS OK WITH DUSTY TO HAVE A WAR HAS LONG AS HER STUBBY LITTLE FRENCH MANICURED FINGERS DONT HAVE TO GET DIRTY
SHE”LL LET OUR KIDS DIE TO SAVE HER, I HATE THE CONSTITUTION, CHICKEN HAWK CELLULITE BACKSIDE
RATHER THAN DEFEND HER COWARDICE SHES BEING MEAN TO ME!!!
BIG WHOOP!
By Scooter
April 20, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
Wow, never have I known many people that can be as sure as you about the future of an area they have never lived.
I worry that something like this may take over, ‘In violence leading up to the offensive, many women reportedly were killed after the hard-line fundamentalist militiamen accused them of violating their strict interpretation of Islamic morality.’
But, you and your truth finders saw something in Saddam that made you want to trust him, so you must know it all. I guess the enforcement of the sharia law would be contained and unreported so hey… whatever, right?
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
Your 12:04 post is extremely incoherent! You went from attacking Islamic fundamentalism to attacking Saddam. Those are two completely different things. Sure—I guess you can say that they’re all A-rabs, but still totally different things.
Saddam was marginalized and how no place to go after getting his arse kicked in ‘91. He had two no-fly zones enforced and economic sanctions to kingdom come. The guy had no ideology excpet to remain in power. He was crazy and twisted, but he wasn’t dumb enough to further jeopardize his presidency.
If you talk about radical Islamists, they are a little scarier because they could give a damn if they live or die. Because you see—they believe in an ideology…a divine ideology. It’s easy to keep someone who believes only in power in check, but when they have dillusions of creating a kingdom for God, then you will have more of a fight on your hands.
We were doing well in Afghanistan, as well as in the rest of the world, in defeating the ideology of radical Wahabiist Islam, but this whole Iraq thing sidetracked us and drained our resources. Now WE are the ones who are marginalized all because some jerk-off child-king and his cronies sold a frightened populace on their doomed Quixotic adventure.
By Scooter typed @ 12:04
April 20, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
We are fighting an ideology of intimidation and fear bred in a REGION of the world and that ideology knows no borders. I don’t care how many 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia…
Then steve-o says ^^^^^^, hmmmmmm?
By Blackadder
April 20, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Specter: I assume you are well-prepared for this hearing…
Gonzales: I prepare for every hearing, sir.
Specter: WELL DO YOU PREPARE FOR YOUR PRESS CONFERENCES, LIKE THE ONE WHERE YOU SAID YOU HAD NO INVOLVEMENT?
Too damn funny!
By Scooter typed @ 12:04
April 20, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Saddam never supported terrorism nor did any terrorists ever live in or come from Iraq, right?
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
{{{By bon scott April 20, 2007 11:20 AM Later. Some of us have work to do.}}}
finch: You reckon that if you quit listening to your own stupid advice you wouldn’t have to go rushing back to the grindstone?
{{{By steve-o April 20, 2007 12:11 PM What’s even more hilarious is that wingnuts know that they can’t even defend this sham of a war so they resort to attacking what some celebrity has said.}}}
This coming from the same kooks that foam and rage at every word out of Limbaugh’s mouth.
{{{By RE April 20, 2007 12:23 PM I have always wondered what happens when the right wing folks, andy, RW bd, dusty et al. do when “Hunt for Red October” comes on.}}}
Conservatives are capable of separating reality from make believe.
You should try it sometime.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Power of Light,
Be careful, the first weapons that will be banned will be laser photon guns.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
My response to your one note never posted.
I don’t support Padilla.
Or Nazis.
Walt
By Joe Right
April 20, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Mine is fine too, thanks. I’ll tell you what gal, if you stop insulting my name, I won’t tell anybody that I know yours wears army boots. How’s that?
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
Yep, change is constant:
“Training Iraqi troops no longer driving force in U.S. policy
McClatchy Newspapers
Military planners have abandoned the idea that standing up Iraqi troops will enable American soldiers to start coming home soon and now believe that U.S. troops will have to defeat the insurgents and secure control of troubled provinces.”
What now?
Mmmmm, well we can build walls, we can stand there and watch the slaughter or we can stop this occupation and watch the slaughter decline.
Decisions, decisions.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
“By Dusty
April 20, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
Ah well,
When Democrats get through with their inquisition of Gonzales about the firing of the NINE US attorneys, perhaps they will investigate the firing of NINETY THREE by Clinton’s Attorney General.
Surely there must have been good justifiable reasons for firing NINETY THREE in one sweep by Clinton’s AG. Maybe Gonzales should give the same “excuses” for the NINE that Clinton’s man gave. Or did anybody even ask?”
Every new administration changes out ALL the USA’s.
Reagan did.
Bush 43 did also.
Walt
By Blackadder
April 20, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
RE 12:23 - LOL!!!!
By Walt
April 20, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
By ROSS SNEYD AP MONTPELIER, Vt. (April 20) - Vermont senators voted Friday to call for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, saying their actions have raised “serious questions of constitutionality.”
The non-binding resolution was approved 16-9 without debate - all six Republicans in the chamber at the time and three Democrats voted against it.”
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Joe mama,
This better?
And have a nice day.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
Saddam never supported AL-QAEDA! Hell, we’ve even supported terrorists—i.e. Sandinistas.
MassenDull,
Liberals don’t take their political talking points from Rosie O’Donnell unlike Rush and the wingnuts. But hey, if you want to be mindlessly swayed by some dillusional pill-popping egotistical jaggoff in a radio booth, don’t let me stop you.
By Scooter
April 20, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
steve-o, good lord. I know you think the best option is to continue whacking moles while ignoring the contained slaughters and supporters of terrorism. Fortunately for you the “media” is in agreement with you and they are a driving force behind American perception. So, it is enevitable that we will continue dealing with terrorism the way we did in the run up to 9/11. I hope that turns out well.
Getalife, links baby, links. I’m really out now, but I will be back to look at your link to whatever McClatchy Newspapers are.
By Glenn
April 20, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Ignorant fools. How dare you and drunken Bush ever imagine that the US was going to shove it’s brand of democracy down the throats of 30 million Iragis who’d been hating and slaughtering each other for 2000 years? To say nothing of hating us and the entire West. This insane so-called “war” was lost before the first shot was ever fired. You inferiors shouldn’t even be permitted to vote. Look at the neocon white trash on this blog.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
steve-o 12:11
Just what did Rosie O’Donnell say that caused such a continuing uproar?
In the News 12:10
I went to the link you cited “Top Ten Bush Lies.” Sorry, the guy who wrote it is David Corn. It says right on your piece he’s a Fox News contributor. Everyone knows that’s a biased organization that puts out misinformation and pushes a conservative agenda. You can’t trust anything Faux News says or the people who appear on it or contribute to it. That’s been pointed out here many, many times.
So the piece is obviously a lie. Which means “Bush Lies” is a lie. Hmmmm.
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
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Scooter yaps about the evil Saddam and terrorism as if such talking points are true.
Lets be blunt -
We invaded Iraq! We attacked! we were the aggressors here.
The Iraqi’s that fought us were not Terrorist. The Iraqi’s that fought us and died were soldiers and militia of Iraq that defended their country from the invaders.
The Iraqi’s we killed were not terrorist!
We overthrew their country’s rightful leader and have put in our own leadership.
Now Partisans and Militia factions have formed in Iraq, (some from other countrys) and now you have terrorist cells in Iraq’ which is something that was never there under the iron fist rule of Saddam.
We broke this country and we cannot fix it.
But the Spin, Hype, and the Propaganda that you lap up like sweet Jonestown Kool-Aid, poisons your mind into believing every droll word that comes out of an idiot box about the great and wonderful thing we have done in Iraq in freeing their people!
Tell that to the families of the soldiers and many other people that we have killed in Iraq’. Tell them how great we are! Tell them how invading their country was for their own good.
Cheers!
Thomas
“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” - James Madison
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
GOP Gonzales Resignation Roll Call
By Dusty's Middle School Teacher
April 20, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Dusty! You better get back to class…we’ve been looking for you everywhere young man!
Sincerely, Miss Elizabeth Potts aka Dusty’s Middle School Teacher
By Joe Right
April 20, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this
Much better, thanks - whatever. Just like I thought, it is easier for a mute to talk to a brick wall than for a normal human being to a liberal.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
You read my links?
Watch out, it might change your w like resolve.
The occupation failed.
It is time to accept this reality.
By Gift Wrapping Dept.
April 20, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
Scooter, liberal brains come boxed up and gift wrapped for their website servers. They never use that deadweight between their ears to think outside that box.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Joe mama.
Yes, it is all the liberals fault.
I heard it on Rush today.
Get a brain.
By Devastator
April 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Msnbc reporting that pet food was spiked to increase protein. That should be considered to be a terroristic act considering all the deaths that occurred.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
Surely you can’t possibly still think that invading Iraq was a good idea and that we have put AlQaeda on the ropes.
Paul,
She has said a number of things that have riled the wingnuts. I think the latest was her hinting at the possibility of a 9/11 conspiracy. Maybe kooky, but it really doesn’t raise my ire the way it does to Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity.
By RE
April 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Steve-o, you are getting into issues that folks who see the world in black and white cannot comprehend.
Terrorism is a tactic.
Terrorists fight for thier own interests, political, religious, and monetary.
I do not think any nation should back a terrorist group, but they do all the time.
The US back the MEK in Iraq, which conducts attacks against Iran. We support the PPK in the kurdish north, which launches terror attacks against turkey, and we have supported terrorists in central and south america.
Then you look at Hamas and Hizbolah, they are terrorist groups that are hositle to Israel, backed by Syria and Iran. They are not specifically anti-US, but more against US support of Israel.
Terrorist groups, like nations act in their own self interest. Nations tend to support terrorist groups when thier motivations are aligned. It is dirty, not black and white, but it happens.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
RE,
My sentiments exactly.
By Scooter
April 20, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
Thomas, Yes. Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship provided headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups.
As Thomas cheers on the terror and “free elections” of Saddam, he obviously just wanted to leave the lid on the terror and say it didn’t exist. Got moles to whack?
I will give you the last word to spread the truth that defies my memory of the 90’s. I really have to get this cam shaft replaced today, so peace out.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
“So, it is enevitable that we will continue dealing with terrorism the way we did in the run up to 9/11.”
That is true,
We have been warned again.
Remember this
There is another one on Al Queda in Pakistan.
Tick, tock, it is only a matter of time with this leadership.
By BuyDanish'sJohn
April 20, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish, where are you baby? You promised me another of your toothless treats today. And baby, it’s payday. I can give you a nice tip today.
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
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Scooter did you fully read that article you linked:
It defines clearly the reasons why we should not have invaded Iraq’ and had no real cause to invade Iraq.
As noted above - The USA has sponsored terrorism too!
As noted - Saddam sponsored terrorism primarily against long fought enemys.
This is Bush’ and the chickenhawk thinktank gang’s private little wat with our troops and national funds.
The Chickenhawks that never served or fought in a war themselves - yet so willing to sacrifice the lives of others for their own global expansionism and control of oil resources.
What a crock’ Scooter!
Thomas
By getalife
April 20, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
Scooter,
You are caving on your position of washing your car and enjoying this beautiful day.
Where is that resolve man?
If they wanted change they are capable of change. Look at their insurgency and their civil war .
By Joe Right
April 20, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
To debate you GAL even without a brain it’s an unfair advantage.
By We supported who?
April 20, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
Well according to steve-o we supported some terrorists called Sandinistas, so why is Ollie North being trashed for trying to get rid of those terrorists? So many morons, so little time but steve-o gets this hour’s prize.
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
PNA - you are making assumptions about people you don’t know, number one. Number two, your logic (as always) is flawed, and you fail to look at history. Lincoln, Wilson and Roosevelt, who led us through our worst conflicts had NO military experience. Kennedy and Johnson, who led us through our most unfortunate military experience were considered war heroes. The man who ended the Cold War had no combat experience, although he served as a captain in the U.S. Army.
Because Lincoln, Wilson, Roosevelt and Reagan did not serve did not make them cowards. Because you want to cut and run and call surrender “withdrawal” does not necessarily make you a coward, just an appeaser, like Chamberlain or Daladier!
By Paul
April 20, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
steve-o
My understanding is two of Rosie’s comments sparked the controversy. Granted, she’s no journalist, but she does have a venue, speaks to millions, and, I think many people will say “I heard it on a major program - they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t true.”
Reading Popular Mechanics, she’s quoted as saying there must have been explosives planted in the Twin Towers for them to collapse the way they did. Popular Mechanics disputes this; however, many US conspiracy kooks and Middle East news sources have alleged from the outset the US government and Zionists were responsible for the attack as a pretext to attack the Middle East.
She said the abduction of the British sailors was faked in the manner of the Gulf of Tonkin to serve as a pretext to attack Iran (that’s a synthesis, not a word for word quote).
Add to that her comments about how “radical Christians” are as much a threat as radical Islam.” No explanation, no analysis - but again, I’ll bet that plays well around the world.
So of couse “conservatives” are in an uproar. If “liberals” (loosely used here, in this context nearly synonymous with Democrats) were in an uproar they’d likely redo their “weak on defense-protection-etc etc” image. But their silence speaks volumes to many. I haven’t heard one “liberal” say “man, she’s really a kook.”
Anyone here care to be the first?
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
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ChickenHawk Enablers one and all!
and this is what they would love!
King George
By getalife
April 20, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Did you hear that?
That was the sound of the other shoe dropping
My goodness.
By RE
April 20, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
Steve-o
The US supported the Contras, against the sandinistas, which were the ruling party (socialist) in nicaragua.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
We supported who?,
I did make a mistake. I meant to say the CONTRAS instead of the Sandinistas. Thanks for pointing that out.
Paul,
I did say that she was kooky for saying those thins, but I’m still not at all offended. I hear crazier opinions and theories at my barbershop.
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Before I go,
Walt in Wonderland,
You may not like Nazis but you do like to imply that others (conservatives) like them. See your question to me yesterday.
Also, on one thing you are correct. Most presidents clear out US Attorneys when they feel the need. So why is Gonzales being grilled by Democrats over this? Because they want to harm Bush in any way they can, even to the detriment of the country.
LOCAL RECRUITER,
You can’t even learn to type, much less think.
Paul,
I don’t watch Rosie the “Riveter Against Republicans”. I can’t answer your question. Trying to make sense out of some Democrats is the proverbial “effort in futility”. You seem to have the stamina to keep trying. Maybe it is all that good wine you drink.
Bye now…
By RE
April 20, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
Rosie is a kook with little information and a wealth of opinion.
Corallary:
Bill Kristol is a kook with a lot of information and wealth of opinion.
Which is the worse kook, the ignorant or the informed and still kooky?
By getalife
April 20, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Have a nice day
By Paul
April 20, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this
steve-o
Sorry, I missed the kook reference. I was going to claim being first, but it just didn’t seem fair as I had the keyboard. That, and it would have provoked too may judgemental comments - rather like “you are not a brunette! I’m a brunette!” Would’ve been fun, though - what’s a liberal? What’s a conservative? And when did those labels become synonymous with affiliation with one of the two major parties? Coudn’t have had the conversation without using the noun “Bush,” (or Clinton) - I’m afraid -
So you were the first. And the last, it seems.
By LOCAL RECRUITER
April 20, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TYPE
BUT YOU ARE THE CANDY-A$$ WAR MONGER
WHO TALKS ABOUT FIGHTING
BUT RUNS FROM IT
By Paul
April 20, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
RE
Knew I could count on you -
Great phrase, there.
Answer: Worse? They’re all kooks - one type who should know, the other who’s too clueless to know -
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
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Truthsayer - Facts:
The current administration ranks are filled with members of this one think tank (The People for a New American Century) that had clearly planned an agenda of this type of low troop number invasion 6 years before Bush was elected (court ruled) as our current leader. It should be noted that they also were the ones that convinced Dubya’ to run for office when their previous choice (Dan Quayle) became a poor choice for President. They even coined the term “Axis Of Evil”. Amost every signatory to their charter is or was a member of the Bush Administration, or has been given choice positions of office by the Bush administration.
Fact 2 - Their pre-plannings of war, while having no wartime experience themselves is what has lead to the disatrous situation we have now. Poor planning from a group of armchair generals. To make matters worse they did not listen to their expert advisors who did have war experience. The leaders you posted above always consulted and listened to their military advisors rather than force a political option over a tactical option.
This Presidency and Adinistration failed this country and have greatly done harm to this nation.
Last fact: The wartime records and experience of notable Democrats in power at present far exceed the wartime records and experience of the notable Republicans currently in power of this country. Yet they get railed against as the fools and idiots about war by the NeoCon spin machine. yet these are the people most knowledgeable about real war.
A military man who has become a politician will usually think twice as to the legitimate reasons for sending men to their deaths in battle if they have been in such battles themselves.
This Administration runs our armies like they are playing a video game. So a few die! But we took out that Saddam fellow! No Big deal eh’ if we lost a few hundred men?
Well I think it is a big deal to their families! Don’t You?!
Thomas
By Midori
April 20, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Purged U.S. Attorneys Slam Gonzales Testimony
By JFK was a Nation's Democrat
April 20, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
[[One group regards everyone else as warmongers, the other regards everyone else as appeasers. Neither side admits that its path will lead to disaster–but neither can tell us how or where to draw the line once we descend the slippery slopes of appeasement or constant intervention.]]
[[In short, while both extremes profess to be the true realists of our time, neither could be more unrealistic. While both aim to be doing the nation a service, they could do it no greater disservice. This kind of talk of easy solutions to difficult problems, if believed, could inspire a lack of confidence among our people when they must all–above all else–be united in recognizing the long and difficult days that lie ahead. It could inspire uncertainty among our allies when above all else they must be confident in us. And even more dangerously it could, if believed, inspire doubt among our adversaries when they must above all else be convinced that we will defend our vital interests.]]
[[But while we shall negotiate freely, we shall not negotiate freedom. Our answer to the classic question of Patrick Henry is still no—live is not so dear, and peace is not so precious, “as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery.” And that our answer even though, for the first time since the ancient battles between Greek city-states, war entails the threat of total annihilation, of everything we know, of society itself. For to save mankind’s future freedom, we must face up to any risk that is necessary. We will always seek peace—but we will never surrender.]]
[[In short, we are neither “warmongers” or “appeasers,” neither “hard” nor “soft.” We are Americans, determined to defend the frontiers of freedom, by an honorable peace if peace is possible, but by arms if arms are used against.]]
This great Democrat was NOT TODAY’S LIBERAL DEMOCRAT but his words ring true to this day.
UNITE AGAINST YOUR ENEMY.
By CAN SHE BE THIS STUPID
April 20, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
DUSTY SAYS
Most presidents clear out US Attorneys when they feel the need. So why is Gonzales being grilled by Democrats over this?
LET”S JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE TELL DUSTY, OR SEND HER A LINK, SHE IS NOT CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEMS WITH THE ATTORNEY PURGE.
EVEN WHEN SOME OF THE FOLKS QUESTIONING GONZO ARE REPUBLICANS.
AN EXAMPLE OF THE HUMAN BRAIN LACKING CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS>
SHE PROBABLY STILL THINKS THERE ARE WMD, OR THAT IRAQ TRIED TO BUY YELLOWCAKE OR THAT DEMS TOOK ALL THE “W“‘s.
SHE HASNT UNDERSTOOD THAT SHE AND AN EVER DECREASING GROUP OF LEMMINGS ARE GOING TO STAND BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TILL ETERNITY AND STILL NOT GET TO SEE THE PARADE OF IRAQI”S GREETING US A LIBERALS>
WILL THEIR PRETTY BALLOONS EVER POP?
ALL WE CAN DO IS PITY THE KID>
By Midori
April 20, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
To Can She Be This Stupid,
yes, she is AND can.
By CAN SHE BE THIS STUPID
April 20, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
IF I HAD A KID THAT HAD THAT HARD A TIME I HAVE THE KID TESTED
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
CNN: Rep. Putnam (R-FL) wants Gonzales gone. CNN’s Dana Bash reports that Rep. Adam Putnam (R-FL), chairman of the GOP conference and the third-ranking House Republican, wants Gonzales to resign
By RE
April 20, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
same speech, with a link!:
In short, we must face problems which do not lend themselves to easy or quick or permanent solutions. And we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient–that we are only six percent of the world’s population–that we cannot impose our will upon the other ninety-four percent of mankind–that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity–and that therefore there cannot he an American solution to every world problem.
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
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Of course yah gotta wonder if the reason a lot of these Republicans want Gonzo’ to resign is they want him off the stand before he (ahem) spills the beans about them too.
Quick get him out before he talks anymore!
-=-
By DawgBite
April 20, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
This country is in desperate need of another Dwight D. Eisehauer!
By regulator
April 20, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
Boy, Dusty got his/her a— kicked today.
By RE
April 20, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
We cannot, as a free nation, compete with our adversaries in tactics of terror, assassination, false promises, counterfeit mobs and crises.
We cannot, under the scrutiny of a free press arid public, tell different stories to different audiences, foreign and domestic, friendly and hostile.
We cannot abandon the slow processes of consulting with our allies to match the swift expediencies of those who merely dictate to their satellites.
We can neither abandon nor control the international organization in which we now cast less than one percent of the vote in the General Assembly
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Lori Brim has joined other parents, hundreds of other sick soldiers, legislators, research scientists and environmental activists who say the cause of their problems results from exposure to depleted uranium, a radioactive metal used in the manufacture of U.S. tank armor and weapon casings
By Power of Light
April 20, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Dawgbite,
This blog is in desperate need of someone who can spell Eisenhower.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
RE 2:09
Nice sentiments. The difficulty I see is the line “we can’t right every wrong or reverse each adversity” when it comes to “suffering” “injustice” etc. That’s when the recognition of no American strategic interest is subordinated to “we have to do something.”
Pretty much, if it’s an American interest and we don’t have allies, we still act. If it’s not an American interest, or a humanitarian endeavor, push the UN.
Sen Biden’s called for military invasion of Sudan. Pres Bush’s comments seem to indicate he’s fed up with the UN and the Sudanese government and could follow Biden’s lead.
Here we go again -
By There Is A Time for Dissension Amongst US
April 20, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
THIS IS NOT THAT TIME.
By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century~!
April 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
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Go Go Gadget Gonzo’
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By Scooter
April 20, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Thomas, I came in to make some lunch and the window to the above link was still open. So I continued on in my reading and saw what you mentioned (Saddam supporting secular terrorist). But, I would have to ask how much of that information we have, because we invaded and ceased Saddam’s offices. I owuld also have to point ou that link said; ‘The administration NOW says it also went to war to bring democracy to Iraq, in hopes it would set an example for other autocratic states in the Middle East. Which obviously gives the wrong impression when you consider the following was in the Resolution authorizing military force; ‘Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime. Perhaps Bush and the PNAC Signatories just wanted to ensure Clintons brain child came to fruition?
Furthermore, in regards to your expansionism and imperialistic implications of illustrating we often supported foreign movements, or governments, that were more likely to support us; I would have to say, the US population is huge and needs things to maintain its standard of living, how do you suggest we secure those provisions?
One more question and I really don’t know the answer. Did Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin ever serve in the military or fight in the Revolution?
Getalife, even a dogg with resolve has to throw a potatoe down his neck every once in a while. I shall now go eat my lunch in the shade of the hood.
By Power of Light
April 20, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
All of the current events which all of you speak of are gradually leading to the formation of a one world government. Due to the inadequacies of the UN and increased fear throughout the world, there will be a cry out for new leadership.
Pay close attention to next year’s election.
By We Face A Common Enemy
April 20, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
LET US RISE ABOVE BEING COMMON MEN.
UNITE FOR THE COMMON GOOD, OUR FREEDOM AND THE FREEDOM FOR THOSE WHO KNOW IT NOT.
By regulator
April 20, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Franklin also said that beer was a gift from God.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Just passing through, but for RE’s “”“which is worse”“” question I would say Rosie has a higher potential for causing damage with her kook theories because she has a far less questioning and much larger audience than Kristol.
As it goes I don’t think either one of them matters much at all.
Steve-o,
Do you consider everyone that fought communist expansion a terrorist?
Blackadder,
I had the same reaction you did when I read RE’s Hunt for Red October lunacy. I still can’t stop laughing about him believing Alec Baldwin was really tooling around in a submarine saving the good old USA. No wonder you libs have such nutty ideas.
See y’all at happy hour!
By RE
April 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I think Biden is wrong, and if Bush pushes for military action in Sudan, he would be wrong as well.
the US should not be the worlds policeman, nor it’s guidence councilor, financial planner, or pastor.
The US should act upon it’s own interests and defend it’s own security. Military action is not always required when a US interest is put at risk.
By JP
April 20, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
“There Is A Time for Dissension Amongst US”
Once Congress officially DECLARES WAR, (!=grants authority for use of force) I’ll shut up and fall in line. But you and I both know BushCo. will NEVER ask them to.
By steve-o
April 20, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
RW,
The Contras slaughtered peasants. Terrorist regimes like Pinochet and the Argentinian junta kidnapped, tortured, and murdered thousands of their own people. These are regimes and entities that we supported.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
“By Dusty
April 20, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Before I go,
Walt in Wonderland,
You may not like Nazis but you do like to imply that others (conservatives) like them. See your question to me yesterday.
Also, on one thing you are correct. Most presidents clear out US Attorneys when they feel the need. So why is Gonzales being grilled by Democrats over this? Because they want to harm Bush in any way they can, even to the detriment of the country.”
Miss Dusty,
You don’t seem to read any news at all.
Was it a surprise for you to read just now that Reagan and Bush 43 cleaned all the USA’s out when they came into office?
What is under investigation is whether or not these 8 USA’s were fired for -not- taking direction from the West Wing.
If the West Wing was manipulating prosecutions that would an unprecedented attack on the legal system in this country.
Do you at least understand the issue now?
Walt
By By the way
April 20, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Has NBC booted Alex Baldwin from 30 Rock yet?
By Paul
April 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
RE
That’s a consistent answer. I, and others, have asked opponents of US intervention in Iraq, to explain (absent WMDs) the difference in conditions before the war (oppression, starvation, hundreds of thousands murdered, ethnic cleansing, etc etc) in Iraq and now in Sudan. The question, of course, is how intervention in one is justified while in the other is not.
I believe you’re the first to tackle this question. Personally, I think if one takes antipathy for Pres Bush out of the equation, many are left unable to define many differentiating characteristics.
By regulator
April 20, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
Vermont Senate votes to impeach Bush, at least the state of vermont has some sense.
By RE
April 20, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
Hmmm, Weekly standard readers are open and questioning.
I guess we will have to disagree on that one.
And yes I know Alec Baldwin is an actor, and you support him whenever you buy or rent Hunt for red october. Just wondering how you felt about that, no need to get nasty
By JP Succumbs
April 20, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
to the COMMON LIBERAL talking points.
Ribbit
Ribbit
Ribbit
A game of liberals leapfrog.
Who can say it first?
Who can say it again?
By Walt
April 20, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
By regulator
April 20, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Franklin also said that beer was a gift from God.”
There is no question of that.
Walt
By Walt
April 20, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
“The question, of course, is how intervention in one is justified while in the other is not.”
Sudan doesn’t have Oil and doEsn’t threaten Israel.
Walt
By @@
April 20, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
Why in the heck would I even notice Alec Baldwin in Red October when I could look at Sean Connery.
I’ve never liked Alec Baldwin. He has a tendency to “bloat”.
By @@
April 20, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
Let me substitute “blow up” for “bloat”.
Put a cork up it Alec, and just hasten the process.
Please!!!!!!!
By getalife
April 20, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
Speaking of an intervention
w thinks he is running again and babbling like a total idiot. I think he lost it on 9/11 reading my pet goat. You could see it in his eyes.
Geez, get that man some help.
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Walt - you have faulty information again. There was no whole-sale firing of U.S. Attorneys during the Reagan and Bush 43 Administrations. They did gradually get rid of the Dummy Carter U.S. Attys when Reagan took office. There was no need for mass turnover with Bush 43. Where do you get your “facts”. You are really quite cavalier about assertions, but you have a hard time backing them up. Please cite your sources.
Also, for a raving anti-semite, you are quite quick to call others Nazi or Fascist, but you turn around and make the classic claim of anti-semites that we and the world are somehow being manipulated by Israel and the JEWS. You probably voted for Cynthia McKinney twice against John Mitnick in 1996. Please look in a mirror before you start calling people names. Oh, I forgot, your idol STALIN was also a well-known anti-semite, hence his hatred of Trotsky. Ironic though because your liberal hero Marx was also a Jew.
By RE
April 20, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I have a tough time because I tend to try to be rational about my opinions.
Kind of like abortion, I do not fit into either camp because I think a woman should be able to end her pregnancy without showing cause for the first 26 weeks. For the first 26 weeks, there is very little chance for a baby to survive outside the womb. After 26 weeks, the baby can survive albeit very risky and at a huge cost. So any abortion after 26 weeks should have to show cause, because at that point the baby is independaently viable.
But I also think Roe v Wade should be struck because it is unconstitutional. Also the recent PBAB passed by congress was an overreach that should have been ruled unconstitutional, and by upholding it, the suprmeme court expanded it’s standing into issues clearly outside the constitution that should be reserved for the states.
So it is tough to reason with people who formed their opinions in bible camp or at a NARAL meeting without looking at the reason.
It is so much easier to call names and set up false pretenses. I oppose the war in Iraq because it is damaging the US more than it is helping it’s long term interests. I oppose GWB’s handleing of the war because he has consistently been shortsighted and overly optimistic in his assesment. And the lack of truth telling is disturbing. I would like to see him come out and say to the families in the military that his plan is to keep forces deployed indefinately, and because of the lack of planning the families should expect a 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th deployment into combat.
But politicians never tell the truth.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
Walt, Walt, Walt (2:56)
“Sudan doesn’t have Oil and doEsn’t threaten Israel.”
Sound bites just don’t cut it.
Link:UN Vote Turns Scramble for Sudan Oil
Regarding Israel: try thinking not in terms of nation states but in terms of shared religion among Islamic extremists in various countries.
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
RE - your position is well reasoned and is the only real solution to the problem. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of people already hold your position. Unfortunately the radicals on both sides would rather die than compromise. I really understand why the anti-abortion crowd feel that way, but the NARAL crowd just must think that abortion is a sacrament.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
THE SADDEST THING
The saddest thing about our affairs since 9/11 is that if the United States had poured as much aid into humanitarian relief in the big tsunami, in Durfur, and elesewhere, and -showed- that the United States -was- a city on the hill, upholding everything that is best about our values —- boys and girls, we’d be winning the war on Islamofascism.
if we’d applied our military to a task that it could do — running al Qaeda ragged and out of its Afghan sanctuaries, we’d have OBL dead or in custody by now.
Anybody — anybody should be able to see that to win this fight, we have to have the moral high ground and Bush relinquished that when he waged aggressive war in contravention of the UN Charter, tortured people at random, trashed civil liberties, maligned his political enemies and all the rest.
Pendind directly from the above is that we are missing 3,000 + really fine people and have maimed twice that many, and for no positive effect at all.
Walt
By Paul
April 20, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
RE
And except maybe for Grenada, when do we ever leave anywhere? After we intervened in the former Yugoslovia (General Shalishkavili, Chairman, JCS said we’d be out by Christmas - I asked “which one?”) Newsweek had an article about a couple Congressional staffers - Armed Services, I believe - were on a tour through the area. They saw permanent US facilities and were livid (Congress approves funding for every building on a building by building basis - portable buildings were required for use under five years). Staffers asked a lieutenant why they built the buildings without specific Congressional approval. His answer was classic - “We looked at the cost of the portable buildings, then at everyplace we’d deployed on what was to be a short-term basis but we always end up staying, so it just made sense to us to save some money and go ahead and build a permanent facility.”
The staffers were speechless.
Gotta love lieutenants -
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this
Walt - are you sure your last name is not Disney? You live in a fantasy world. Had we gone into Darfur the bloodshed would be just as great because the terrorists would have decided to fight us there rather than in Iraq. We are in a region of the world where history is replete with Jihad because the founder of the religion STARTED it with a war, not with a message of peace, despite the name of the religion.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
Being a Republican means…
By Walt
April 20, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
“By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Walt - you have faulty information again. There was no whole-sale firing of U.S. Attorneys during the Reagan and Bush 43 Administrations. They did gradually get rid of the Dummy Carter U.S. Attys when Reagan took office. There was no need for mass turnover with Bush 43.”
No need?
Bush 43 absolutely replaced every USA when he took office.
So did Reagan.
The 8 USA’s that Bush fired were ones that -he- had appointed.
Even -that- begs the question of control from the West Wing.
Walt
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Paul - we left Haiti. We left Nicaragua. We left France. We left Spain. We left the Philipines. We left North Africa. We left Lebanon (we shouldn’t have - one big mistake Reagan made in foreign policy and we’re still paying for it). If asked we would leave Germany, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Italy or Japan. Your assertion that we do not leave is just in ERROR. We did not enter into World War II to be conquerors but to liberate. Iraq is the same.
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Walt - you always like to cite just partially. I did say that Reagan did gradually replace all of Dummy’s U.S. Attorneys. However, you are wrong about Bush 43. He left quite a few Reagan appointees in place. You can look it up. Bob Barr was one of them. Your assertions are based on half-truths and outright fantasy. CITE YOUR SOURCES. You would have flunked out of law school after the first semester.
By w00t
April 20, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
“I CAN’T RECALL!!!1” “I CAN’T RECALL!!!1” “I CAN’T RECALL!!!1” “I CAN’T RECALL!!!1” “I CAN’T RECALL!!!1” “I CAN’T RECALL!!!1”
Does this guy have Alzheimer’s?
By Paul
April 20, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer
Well, Haiti’s good. Did we ever invade? I thought Carter’s peace mission called off the transports en route.
I really wasn’t going back to WWII - we’re in a post-Cold War world now. Leave Lebanon? Begs question of why go in the first place.
When Rumsfeld announced the drastic reductions in troops in Germany, etc. the local politicians pleaded for us to stay. (BTW - Kerry greatly criticized the reductions - same in S Korea. Classic case of knowing better but politicizing an issue).
De Gaulle kicked us out. Wasn’t voluntarily.
Re: Iraq. Intentions are great. Reality sucks. We liberated, now find many in Iraq would rather kill each other than build a nation. I think western democracy is fundamentally at odds with Islamic society. We had good intentions. Present reality is different. Time for a major reevaluation and defining our long-term plan for our involvement in that part of the world (something neither party has done).
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
w00t - yeah about like HILLARY YOU FOOL
By Hillary
April 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
wOOt, I believe he learned from me.
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Paul - the point is that when asked to leave, we leave. We do not just stay unwanted (well maybe in Hawaii). You are wrong. We are not aggressors as a modern nation. Admit it and move on.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
Today the House and Senate Judiciary Committees received a letter from anonymous Justice Department employees concerning widespread politicization at the Justice Department.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer
When did I ever say we are aggressors and stay where we aren’t wanted?!!? My point was we intervene around the world for a variety of reasons and end up staying. In some places (Europe) new institutions emerge (NATO). Local communities in stable countries like the dollars. In other places (eastern Europe) we’re stuck - we leave, killing starts, and we just can’t have that. It’s not about wanted or unwanted. It’s just a fact of life.
So let’s stop with the “right/wrong” and read without preconceptions, okay?
By Point of clarity
April 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Bush 43 is our current President, Bush 41 followed Reagan.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Election audit finds mistakes aplenty Associated Press 1 in 4 Cleveland memory cards fail to match up to official totals
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Within hours of Pat Tillman’s death, the Army went into information-lockdown mode, cutting off phone and Internet connections at a base in Afghanistan, posting guards on a wounded platoon mate, and ordering a sergeant to burn Tillman’s uniform.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
[The most powerful indictment of the news media for falling down in its duties in the run-up to the war in Iraq will appear next Wednesday, a 90-minute PBS broadcast called “Buying the War,” which marks the return of “Bill Moyers Journal.”](
By Walt
April 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
“Your assertion that we do not leave is just in ERROR. We did not enter into World War II to be conquerors but to liberate. Iraq is the same.”
If one wants to be cynical, we entered WWII n Europe to decide who would control the markets of Europe.
A United States of Europe under Hitler was simply impossible to tolerate especially given the parlous state of the US economy in 1940.
We invaded Iraq to secure oil and help stop terror in Israel.
There was nthing of liberation about it.
Walt
By STOP THE PRESSES, HOLD THE PHONE
April 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
My colleague, IN THE NEWS, has uncovered the scandal to beat all scandals. A Republican President isn’t stocking up the government with even more left wing lunatics. He thinks that’s bad because he heard that from…..
.
.
….a group of concerned liberal employees. No names, no head count of the group. IN THE NEWS seems to have become A PROPAGANDIST.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
SECOND ATTEMPT The most powerful indictment of the news media for falling down in its duties in the run-up to the war in Iraq will appear next Wednesday, a 90-minute PBS broadcast called “Buying the War,” which marks the return of “Bill Moyers Journal.”
By @@
April 20, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
My oh my. There’s lots of money changing hands in the Middle East, so says Stratfor:
“Militarily speaking, the Arab Gulf states rely completely on the United States for their defense. U.S. allies in the Gulf are receiving some of the best U.S. military hardware available, and U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates just got the OK from Israel to provide Saudi Arabia with advanced military technology to bolster the Saudi defense posture in the Gulf.”
O.K., that’s ^^^ at our expense.
“The Saudis also hold the energy lever in their hands. By substantially expanding Saudi oil production from its current 8.6 million barrels per day (bpd), the Saudis could seriously strain the Iranian energy industry, which already sorely lacks the technology, experience and government backing needed to fund major refinery projects, and therefore heavily depends on high oil prices.”
“Finally, the Gulf Arabs possess the risk-free option of putting their petrodollars to good use in containing the Iranian advance. Iraqi and Saudi officials announced April 18 that the Saudi government has agreed to forgive 80 percent of the more than $15 billion that Iraq owes the kingdom. Riyadh is not under any illusions that its war-torn neighbor would be able to repay the debt any time soon, if at all, but this goodwill gesture toward the Shiite-dominated government will help the Saudis buy some much-needed influence in Baghdad. The Saudi government is well-aware that the Iraqi Shiite bloc does not see eye to eye on a number of issues with its patrons in Tehran, and hopes to exploit this rift by weaning the Shiite Arabs in Iraq away from Iran.”
“Arab powers in the region face a reality in which Iran is recasting the region’s balance of power in favor of the Shia through its extended reach in Iraq and its nuclear ambitions. Though the Arab Gulf states face substantial limitations in their ability to suppress their historical Persian rival, the realization has sunk in that the United States will not be able to run the Iraq show on its own — meaning the Gulf Arab governments are going to have to put their petrodollars to the test.”
That reminds me. I’m off to get groceries. Oil is on my list (vegetable that is).
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
NOTHING I LIKE BETTER THAN AFTER A BARRAGE OF REAL NEWS ONE OF THE OLD NEO CONS MELTS DOWN>>>>
ESPECIALLY ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON>>
I WOULD SAY “MY WORK IS DONE HERE” BUT LETS SEE IF I CAN PUSH ANOTHER ONE OVER THE EDGE BEFORE SUPPER…
By Paul
April 20, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
@@
Thanks for sharing that. Nothing’s ever simple, is it?
So the implications for US post-Iraq are…? That question should at least be given cursory thought by some in Congress.
BTW - it hasn’t come up today, but every so often we’re treated to a question of “okay, define what “win” means in Iraq. Can you? Huh? Huh?” Since Sen Reid said today he told Pres Bush we can’t “win” - if follows that some of our blogging friends should direct the question to Sen Reid. He obviously knows, as he knows we can’t do it.
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
I TOLD YA SO
ITS ISNT AS MUCH THE ONES THAT GOT FIRED …..ITS THE ONES WHO AGREED TO SCREW WITH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM
Court: Wisconsin Prosecution “Preposterous”
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Flashback: Joint Chiefs Member During Gulf War Agrees With Reid, Said Iraq War’s Lost
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
SURE WOULD FEEL BETTER IF WE HAD BACK ALL THOSE INSPECTORS BUSH LET GO>>>
Now melamine has been found in pig urine at a California hog farm. The earlier melamine findings were all concentrated in pet foods, but this case brings out a connection to the human food chain.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS
I always found it amazing a maverick like Tony McPeak became AF Chief of Staff. He actually restructured the AF BEFORE a crisis occurred - because he looked back, saw where we’d been, looked ahead, saw where we were going, then exercised the leadership to change things.
We could use more like him - in all the services.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
“By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Walt - you always like to cite just partially. I did say that Reagan did gradually replace all of Dummy’s U.S. Attorneys. However, you are wrong about Bush 43. He left quite a few Reagan appointees in place.”
I think you mean Bush 41.
Let’s recap.
Reagan replaced all of Carter’s.
Clinton Replaced all of Bush 41’s.
Bush 43 replaced all of Clinton’s.
Walt
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
IS GATES TALKING ABOUT SURRENDER? [US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates warned the Iraqi leadership in a visit to Baghdad on Thursday that the US commitment to that country is not open-ended.](
By N-GA
April 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
Paul,
We’re still in Spain, too. We were kicked out of North Africa (Tripoli). Our servicemen and their families had to leave in the dead of night leaving all their worldly possessions behind. And the only invasion of Nicaragua was in 1907…and it was hard to call that an invasion.
On another topic: I hate to beat a dead horse, but I don’t think it generates enough discussion. Within the past few weeks the following has occurred:
China announced it would significantly reduce its foreign reserves held in US dollars to 20% of its total foreign reserves.
Iran announced it would no longer quote oil prices in dollars…it would continue to accept dollars, but would immediately convert those dollars to other currencies.
The British pound will now buy more than 2 US dollars…the highest rate in more than 15 years.
Gold is trading at $692 per ounce, a fact that reflects the weakness of the dollar rather than the strength of gold.
All this to say that there is ever increasing pressure on the US dollar. Paul…do you realistically see any way out of this situation without some extremely painful adjustments by Americans (relative to their overall economic well-being)?
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
DOES THIS MAKE GATES A SURRENDER MONKEY TOO???
US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates warned the Iraqi leadership in a visit to Baghdad on Thursday that the US commitment to that country is not open-ended.
By STOP THE PRESSES, HOLD THE PHONE
April 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
A PROPAGANDIST, Harry Reid says that wasn’t what he meant so it would be hard to agree with him that the Iraq war is lost.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
N-GA
I don’t always respond to your economic posts, but enjoy reading and thinking about them, as I’m sure others do. We all have our horses to beat (as you’ve read today, I’ve a few, also). But just look at how situations have developed because horses weren’t beat enough. One could say the same about the Comptroller General - but I applaud his tenacity.
Short answer: some items (exchange rate) fluctuate. Back in the 80s the pound was nearly one-for-one. Other items - getting away from dollars - if expanded - will have a problematic effect - problematic as it’ll likely be felt in areas two or three times removed - so people won’t connect the two. China? Opportunity - and headache after headache. But combine what you’ve written, plus what I see is an increasing attitude among the populace of “give me this - and let somebody else pay” and I think “painful” doesn’t begin to describe it.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
“However, you are wrong about Bush 43. He left quite a few Reagan appointees in place.”
I know you just made a mistake, but if not then you are saying that some Reagan USA’s served throughout both the Bush 41 and Clinton administrations, and might even still be there.
Walt
By IN THE NEWS
April 20, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Bob Barr Officially Better Than Ann Coulter
By @@
April 20, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
No Paul, some things are never easy. The Middle East needs to take a good look into the mirror and say, “Good Allah, we’ve let ourselves become ugly.” What shall we do?
Power, money and influence. On another note…
Sometimes life unfolds before us. Case in point…
When I was in college, I was hanging with a guy while dating my “would be” husband. The “boyfriend/husband to be” was older and grounded. The “hanging out” guy friend was fun-loving and carefree. I enjoyed that. I preferred that.
The “boyfriend/husband to be” lost patience with me. I panicked and dumped the “hanging out” guy friend.
Turns out, the “hanging out” guy friend had schizophrenia. I never saw any indications of that.
The “now husband/former boyfriend” and I built a house next door to “hang-out” guy’s cousin who told me he was schizophrenic in college. Ended up homeless, and was later hit by a truck and killed.
Life’s what happens when you’re making other plans. There but for the grace of God go I.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Where did whatshis name go?
Walt
By Paul
April 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
@@
Whew - one decision…
Still married to your college sweetheart? Ever thought of running for President? Seems to be a prime requirement of a lot of your ultraliberal friends on this site. :)
I think that was one of the Bush Administration’s goals for Iraq - establish a democracy, have it serve as a model for other countries with monarchies or repressive governments, under pressure from their own incountry radicals. They’d transition to democracy, pressure for reform (and influence of radicals) would wane and that’d be good for US interests.
I’m not saying that was realistic, or the assumptions were valid.
But I don’t think many have that level of introspection. Then again, the latest protests by “progressive” Moslems in Turkey, or the activity of the younger, less orthodox in Iran may prove that supposition incorrect. We can only hope.
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
Pure lib cowardice, backstabbing pieces of sh-it:
{{{“I am proud of these troops and what they have done. They won the war and the mission was accomplished. We cannot win it militarily.”—Rep. John Murtha, April 20}}}
{{{“I believe … that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week.”—Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, April 19, 2007}}}
So if I were to reduce my thinking to that of a democrat senator and I became an accommodater of all things evil, including killers and cut throat terrorists, I would then be able to say we have lost the war for the Virginia Tech campus.
If I were an idiot partisan goony like Reid, I would.
Anybody want to explain to me the difference between an Al Qaeda suicide bomber and Cho?
And tell me why we would leave the Iraqi people to the tender mercies of Al Qaeda?
I got an idea, if you libs can’t be men about it, why don’t you STFU?
You undermining our troops and increasing the danger they face is starting to get old.
Really old.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.
By @@
April 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Well Paul, I recall reading that both Maliki and al-Sadr were encouraging the placement of “technocrats” to fill the six parliamentary positions left by al-Sadr and his guys.
Technocrats? Aren’t those “progressive” elitists in their fields of expertise.
Money CAN buy happiness. Happiness delivers contentment.
Just ask our liberal friends. How many times have we heard them put forth that belief?
In case I didn’t mention it. The husband is as “right” as right gets. We are an interesting couple.
By Concerned Citizen
April 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
Luck-o-Dull,
When you convince me that Iraqis would protect us from the “tender mercies of Al Qaeda” then I’ll worry about the fate of the people of Iraq and what the terrorists will do to them. If you think that they could care less about what Al Qaeda does to us the you are even a bigger fool than I thought. The majority of Iraqi’s believe that attacks on our sons and daughters are justified and you want them to die for these people. FY and F them. Bring our kids home.
As I said before, if you are so protective of Iraqi’s go be one and let our soldiers come home and protect us.
FYYFF
By getalife
April 20, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
@@,
Are you sure you did not drive that guy crazy?
Money does not but happiness and it buys crap.
In the end, all you have is your family and they fight over that crap.
For those who have any outrage left
Sigh.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
@@ - N-GA - steve-o
Well, it’s getting late on a Friday and since France, de Gaulle, money, happiness, contentment, misunderstandings, have all been raised, let me leave with this:
At the end of a long and probably very boring meal (at a formal dinner), (British Prime Minister) Macmillan turned to Madame de Gaulle and asked politely what she was looking forward to in her retirement. Quick as a flash the elderly lady replied: “A penis.” Macmillan had been trained all his life never to appear shocked, but even he was a bit taken aback. The entire table was silent. President de Gaulele was chuckling and said, “My dear, I believe the British pronounce it ‘happiness.”
By Paul
April 20, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this
getalife
That was great. You sound like my brother: “People buy houses bigger than the need with rooms they don’t use so they can spend money and fill them up with stuff.”
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Catch up time…
JP,
I challenged 2 people yesterday to provide evidence to substantiate the inflammatory charge that the Bush Administration is suppressing votes. I asked that they point out to evidence either in the original Baltimore Sun story, or anywhere else.
I have yet to receive a single response, although we now have 4 people who have posted the same story with the same unfounded allegations.
Midori, who was the one who posted the non-story in the first place, provided the pathetic excuse that “she didn’t have the time to waste”.
I am left to deduce that in preparation for the 2008 election, all sorts of unsubstantiated charges will be placed in the media by Leftist propagandists and millions of Useful Idiots will read them and never stop to think that there is no “there” there.
The people who plant these stories know that there are tens of millions of fools just like you, Midori, Rushncap, and IN THE NEWS who will fall for these charges because none of you have the brains or deductive abilities to realize that beyond the sensational headline, there is nothing there.
By Walt
April 20, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
“Anybody want to explain to me the difference between an Al Qaeda suicide bomber and Cho?”
Cho didn’t think he was headed for paradise.
Walt
By N-GA
April 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I suspect the economic meltdown will cause anarchy to reign. Society will go back to seeing only the privileged going on to higher education. Health care will deteriorate to the point that it exists in 2 forms: excellent care for the wealthy and minimal care for everyone else. People will die from flu, measles, infection, poor nutrition, and death at birth due to lack of prenatal care.
We will see people literally fighting to keep their homes…not just from bank foreclosure, but tax liens.
Vehicles will be had by the wealthy because the dollar won’t buy oil. We will ship oil overseas in order to bring in needed hard currencies.
But more than anything else, the US will become marginalized in world affairs. Events will occur and we will have no influence on the outcomes. Perhaps that will be the only good thing to come of the meltdown.
And the issues debated on this blog today will, by and large, become irrelevent.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this
Let’s get happy hour started early, shall we?
RE,
You’re a little more hypersensitive than usual today if you think my remark about your inability to separate Hollywood from reality was nasty.
Who the hell buys or rents the Hunt For Red October these days? I think I saw that in a theater when Reagan was President or at least GHWB. Did you know that Kevin Costner was originally casted to play Baldwin’s Jack Ryan role? We could be heaping all these mountains of cash from rentals on Costner, but I think Baldwin is going to need it after that nasty little tirade at his daughter. You would think he would at least know her age, but as you could tell from the call it was all about him. Makes him a good leftist, doesn’t it? mememememememe-AB
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this
{{{By Concerned Citizen April 20, 2007 5:24 PM The majority of Iraqi’s believe that attacks on our sons and daughters are justified}}}
Look at this genius, if a few people in a country hate America then we are supposed to withdraw from that country.
So when we are we going to pull out of the United States?
I sure would like to know where this great courageous, killer army is that you dumb sh-it liberals want to run and hide from.
Cause I damn sure don’t see it.
You human filth, uncollected garbage, are cowering before a few raggedy as-s terrorists, like uh, Cho.
Why don’t you just hide under your bed and stay there?
Cowards.
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By Truthman
April 20, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Happy 420!!
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Walt - you really do have a nasty skewed version of history. Your opinion of this nation as an aggressor and just out to rule the rest of the world. Your ideas about why we went into World War II are only worthy of a first class IDIOT and NAZI anti-semite, as you clearly are. You are either evil (like most liberals) or stupid (like the rest). Very little really gets me worked up, but your notions about America are straight out of the radical left-wing kooks like Ward Churchill.
Please try to understand that this country was and STILL is the last best hope of mankind. You and your kind would rather us live in 1930s oppressive Soviet style state because you want us to surrender to our enemies and roll over and be sent to the Gulag!
Your first words must have been SIEG HEIL
By Truthman
April 20, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Happy 420!!
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Dwight D. Eisenhower was really a Dem before he ran for prez in the 50’s. The Repugs asked him first to run on their ticket and he agreed to do it… so I agree with the previous poster who lamented that America needs another Eisenhower. Someone who understands what a beast the military industry has become and would work hard to rein it in.
By Truthsayer
April 20, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Paul - mea culpa - I misinterpreted what you were saying.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
N-GA
Well, I hope it doesn’t come to that. Possibly we’ll get a Congress and President that will work together. But the old “show up, work hard, you’ll have a good life” doesn’t apply anymore. Whether it’s kids who leave school with no marketable skills (or low-wage skills), Circuit City releasing $12 an hour workers to hire $8 an hour workers, middleclass families forced into poverty because of medical bills - all of this is solvable. “Free markets” don’t cut it. Neither does complete direction by government. The solutions are there - just need the right combination of people elected with the creativity to recognize it.
BTW - turned on “AMC” last night. There was Patrick Swayze - leading partisans in the struggle against Soviet and Cuban militar in Wyoming in “Red Dawn.” Too funny -
RW - (the original) - I bought the DVD when it was released. Great music as the sub’s going out on trials. Plus I had a first edition of the book. Met Clancy once. Decent guy.
By RE
April 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
Giving money to Costner will only enbolden him to make more movies. No one wants another “waterworld” or “Postman” do we.
Safer to keep the money with baldwin, he makes a great burned out irish cop(departed)
By Goldie
April 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
Happy Earth Day, everyone!
By Paul
April 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
Goldie
Maybe a few more Eisenhowers? Democrats who’ve seen the Light and converted to Republicanism?
Sorry - couldn’t resist. Happy hour, remember?
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
steve-o @ 2:39,
Are you saying that we should have let communist Russia take over the entire world if it ever meant we had to deal with some unsavory characters to put a stop to worse?
I know how dearly you leftists miss the dream of global communism, but please just dream about it instead of trying to get yourself killed living in a World Wide caliphate.
You remind me of the spurned lover that murders his ex saying if he can’t have her nobody else can either. You don’t even have to fight Islamofascism, you can just stay out of the way. Once we’re done you can go back to trying to build your utopia.
By Truthman
April 20, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
Happy 420, Calvin!!
You know what I mean!
By Paul
April 20, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
Truthsayer
No prob. A weakness of written conversation (no auditory or visual cues).
By Dusty
April 20, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this
@@,
Your happiness is catching and I enjoy it like so many here. Surely the little ones you teach absorb much of that happiness. I think that is a special “calling”.
Besides that, you are an honest-to-goodness conservative. You KNOW how much I like that. You might even “convert” getalife one of thse days. We’d all say “geez” at that.
Enjoy the sunshine this weekend.
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
{{{By RE
April 20, 2007 1:00 PM |
Steve-o, you are getting into issues that folks who see the world in black and white cannot comprehend. Then you look at Hamas and Hizbolah, they are terrorist groups that are hositle to Israel, backed by Syria and Iran. They are not specifically anti-US, but more against US support of Israel.}}}
RE,
Ha!
Google Hezbollah cells in the U.S. and see what you get. Here’s one paragraph from one link.
Aside from al Qaeda, no terrorist group has killed more Americans than Hezbollah, which is bankrolled by Iran to the tune of at least $100 million a year. Hezbollah’s main theaters of operation are Lebanon, its home country (where it killed hundreds of Americans during the 1980s), and the West Bank and Gaza, where it helps Palestinian rejectionists target Israel. But the group is active in the United States as well. Hezbollah is believed to have cells in at least 10 U.S. cities.
Don’t worry. Be happy. They don’t hate us and don’t represent a threat. It’s just Israel they’re after, and who cares about them anyway./SARC.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
AJC———-WTF is up with your blogmonster???
RE,
Good point about keeping money out of Costner’s hands. I guess these two have both been washed up for at least a decade, why won’t they go away? Sean Connery wasn’t originally cast for Red October either.
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
{{{By N-GA April 20, 2007 5:43 PM I suspect the economic meltdown will cause anarchy to reign. Society will go back to seeing only the privileged going on to higher education. Health care will deteriorate to the point that it exists in 2 forms: excellent care for the wealthy and minimal care for everyone else. People will die from flu, measles, infection, poor nutrition, and death at birth due to lack of prenatal care.}}}
Tell me, does this whine sound to you like it came from a “millionaire,” who if he had his money properly invested could feed a few of the poor all on his own, or does it sound like an extremely jealous, anti social janitor down on his luck?
And which one would you bet on?
Make it a million?
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By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
I’ll try this one last time.
I can’t believe it took until 5:15 for the first crackhead to start spewing about 420. Last year you had your bongs lit at daybreak.
Goldie,
Isn’t Earth Day the creation of that guy that kept his dead girlfriend in a suitcase?
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Goldie,
Thanks for the reminder that today is Lenin’s birthday.
Look at this interesting tidbit I found about early opposition to Earth Day!
Not all reactions were positive. The event caused a backlash in some quarters, particularly among black activists. “To some critics, the environmental movement resembles a children’s crusade of opportunistic politicians, zealous Ivy Leaguers, longhaired ecoactivists and scientists who speak too sweepingly and too gloomily.” Even among those committed to saving the Earth, there is some skepticism about Earth Day rituals.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
Goldie isn’t here. She’s at the town hall changing her voter registration to Republican before they close -
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
RW,
I’ve been experimenting since I am SO freaking fed up with the AJC server.
Firefox is a million times faster, but if you want to post a link, which I usually do, one is stuck with that damned scroll bar BUT it is even worse here as then at Blogspot since they go both horizontally and vertically.
I wish Firefox would fix that quirk. I’d dump IE in a minute, but for that problem.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
More Tillman outrage for those who have any outrage left
lights bong
Ahhhhhh, sigh.
By RE
April 20, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this
I do not care at about any other country aside from the United States and it’s safety, apparently you have divided loyalty to Israel.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
I think it’s old movie day around here. The libs have been burning blunts and watching the Movie Channel all day. It appears N-GA is giving the opening few scenes from Seabiscuit.
By Paul
April 20, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish
I posted this for you yesterday, don’t know if you saw it. It’s right up your alley, good way to end the week.
Link:The Smile
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Won’t it be funny when she stands in line for an hour only to be told we don’t register by party in Georgia?
Buy Danish,
The AJC server goes through several minute periods that it just ignores posts no matter what. In IE if you hit post and watch the progress bar, just hit refresh as soon as you have four dots filled in.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
“I know it was you Ganzo, you broke my heart”
/lights blunt/
Ahhhhh, exhale.
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
Paul,
I saw it - thanks. You do understand that according to Getalife that cartoon makes no sense because there is no such thing as Partial Birth Abortion and the Supremes just ruled about a procedure that doesn’t exist?
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
RW,
I know about that trick. The problem that I have with IE is that it takes about 5 minutes to refresh the page and gets slower and slower as the day goes on. It is unbearable.
I lost a post to Steve-O about his absurd claim that there is no difference between Baptist campus groups and the Muslim Student Organization that I need to try to recreate. &^^%%$$!!!!
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
getalife,
You certainly get in the swing of things fast when drugs and cinema come together.
Isn’t Earth Day on Sunday the 22nd?
By Paul
April 20, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish
You’re welcome.
Ever since I heard the term “partial” birth (“Hi, I’m Megan. I was partially born on…) I’ve given up trying to make sense out of it.
By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
I know a trick for that too but I can’t tell you that one here. It’s an easy way to get the page up fast to make a post in IE when you want to use a link and use Firefox the rest of the time.
By Truthman
April 20, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this
I think I’ll go home and watch “The Big Lebowski”
I feel a bit “Dude-ish” tonight!
Goodnight neo-conmen and women (Bye Danish, @@, RW, Andi/Luckodull). Have a nice, white, hate-filled, boogeyman-killing weekend.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
BD,
Chill, you are ruining my buzzz.
By Bill
April 20, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
Another grand weekend here. Time for you Repug hillbillies to once again slip into your gangsta clothes, your ball caps, your pickups, your “dude” and ghetto speak. Cell phones in your rectums, head on down to the sports bar for courage and each other. Searching wildly for an ounce of masculinity to no avail. Such a pitiful lot you are. Why aren’t you weaklings over in Iraq, practicing what you puke forth all day??
By Paul
April 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
getalife
Can you please pass your bong to Bill? He needs to chilllllll.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
Everyday is Earth Day RW.
/grins/
/lights bong/
/big smile/
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
{{{By steve-o
April 20, 2007 9:17 AM
Buy Danish,
What the hell would you call a campus Baptist fellowship whose goal in part is to witness to nonbelievers and get them to embrace Evangelical Christianity?}}}
Useful Idiot Steve-O,
You can’t seriously believe that there is an intellectually honest comparison between groups like these and the Muslim Student Association who is intent on bringing Sharia Law to college campuses and use the Islamic Thought Police to turn in any infidels who make even “subtle” expressions of “intolerance”.
You can’t seriously believe that it is reasonable to exclude Muslims from having to pay interest because it is against their Caliphate dreams, err, religion?
You can’t seriously believe that they are truthful when they claim that things are just peachy keen for Muslim women and it is a lie that they are second class citizens?
I’d go on, but I already know that the answer is - Yes! You do believe this propaganda and you’re actually eager to believe it.
By Bill
April 20, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
Paul:
BOO!!!
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
{{{By Buy DanishApril 20, 2007 6:27 PM Firefox is a million times faster, but if you want to post a link, which I usually do, one is stuck with that damned scroll bar BUT it is even worse here as then at Blogspot since they go both horizontally and vertically.}}}
If you build your post in the comment box, Firefox scrolls all the way to the right with the link but all you have to do is paste the link, type in the right parenthesis and hit enter. It will take you to the next line all the way back to the left side.
Or you can build your comment in Word and cut and paste the whole thing to Firefox from there.
My installation of IE crashes whenever it sees an Adobe Flash player, so I had to deep six it.
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By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
Why doesn’t DoD drug test their employees?
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this
Paul,
Bill aka Clyde and other Creeps of many names must work part time as a mule bringing drugs in, or is a member of Al Qaeda.
Who else would even think of doing the unthinkable with a cell phone?
Must be part of his suicide bomber training.
By Buy Danish
April 20, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
My eyesight and typing skills are so bad that I actually need to be able to look to see if I typed in a parentheses.
I use Word sometimes, usually when I’m catching up and want to quote the moonbats, but I find it tedious to use it all the time. I certainly have not managed to make it a habit.
Great observation about the “millionaire” N-GA by the way.
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
By getalife
April 20, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
Geez, that is a lot of work Andy.
By RE
April 20, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
BD, it is not a muslim law not to charge interest, it is a christian law that is not followed.
Dunce!
leviticus 25:35
35 ” ‘If one of your countrymen becomes poor and is unable to support himself among you, help him as you would an alien or a temporary resident, so he can continue to live among you. 36 Do not take interest of any kind [a] from him, but fear your God, so that your countryman may continue to live among you. 37 You must not lend him money at interest or sell him food at a profit. 38 I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt to give you the land of Canaan and to be your God.
Dueteronomy 23
19 Do not charge your brother interest, whether on money or food or anything else that may earn interest. 20 You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.
By LuckoDull
April 20, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this
Pasting the link, typing in a parenthesis and hitting enter is a lot of work?
Reefer makes you paranoid as well as sloooowwwww, rigggghhhhhttttt gggiiiitttmmmoooo???
Maybe that’s why you libs are scared of the terrorists.
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By RW-(the original)
April 20, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this
RE,
Buy Danish excerpted that from a story about demands being made by the Muslim Students Association.
Who’s the dunce? Don’t hit your head walking around in that pointy cap all weekend.
By N-GA
April 21, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Hey BedWetter & Bi-Danish,
That’s your style…when you can’t intelligently attack the message, you attack the messenger.
Andykins…remember what always happens when you bring up wagers. You run with your tail between your legs and the yellow stripe down your back is a beacon of cowardice.
Both of you regularly break God’s commandments, especially “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods”.
You’re both hypocrites & losers. LMAO @ you.
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