Mike Luckovich

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

Really disgusting cartoon.

(AJC- It is your responsibility to ensure the mental health of employees working under your guidance and direction. Obviously and undeniably, the stress of BDS and the constant attacks on the United States of America have caused your editorial cartoonist to become a bitter, deranged psychotic with only one thought on his mind. I personally hold YOU responsible for any damages that may arise from his mental instability.)

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Ten years ago if you would have told me that Mrs. Clinton would be the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, I’d have never believed you. Her only qualifications for office are that she’s Mr. Clinton’s partner. And what does that mean? The two of them stand for dishonesty and corruption. Remember Bill Clinton’s pardon of the Hasidic Jews in that New York community? She got 99 percent of their vote [in the 2000 election] when they normally vote 99 percent Republican. Why the change in allegiance? Like there was no deal for their votes. The Clintons represent the highest level of corruption, but no one has the courage to mention it. Instead they talk about Rudy Giuliani. Over a lifetime of excellent service, there’s never been a hint of corruption in his behavior but everybody investigates him. Hillary Clinton’s life has been filled with corruption but nobody cares. The last thing we need is another Clinton to be our President. Believe me, one lowlife was enough. We don’t need the lowlife’s partner. When John Dillinger got put out of business did we go try to find his partner? I could have imagined the mafia imitating something like that but never the American people. Yet, again, I was wrong. Respectable and decent people are putting her up for the nomination. Even the Republican Party doesn’t have the legs to challenge her.

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{{{Blacksburg, Va.—- The gunman in the Virginia Tech massacre was a sullen loner who alarmed professors and classmates with his twisted, violence-drenched creative writing and left a rambling note raging against rich kids and ——->religion.<———}}}

I believe we may have found the problem here.

Anybody heard from Monkey Man lately?

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By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

{{{During his most recent trip to Iraq, Mr. Graham visited Anbar province in western Iraq, and he noted some hopeful signs. “Sixteen of 21 tribal sheiks have now joined with the coalition forces and rejected al Qaeda,” he noted. “The sheiks made a call to join the police force. Seven hundred people had to be turned away” because so many people applied to join the force.}}}

You libs and your side are going to lose this war just as sure as Al Qaeda is.

Get used to it.

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{{{Ali Mohamed, who at bin Laden’s request did surveillance of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, years before it was attacked by al Qaeda, spoke of the group’s tactics and objectives in an October 20, 2000 plea agreement with the U.S. government. He said: “based on the marine explosion in Beirut in 1984 [sic] and the American pull-out from Beirut, they will be the same method, to force the United States to pull out from Saudi Arabia.”}}}

A strategy against the United States based upon the cowardice of it’s citizenry.

And you libs try to play right into their hands.

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Conservatives need to fight back. Fight back against the outrageous “mainstream” media bias. Fight back against the Leninists who run much of academia. Fight back against the baseless smears from two-bit cheap-shot artists masquerading as Democratic U.S. senators. Fight back against Hollywood’s cultural rot.

Can I get an amen?

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By N-GA

April 18, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

CNN reported today that the blogging content of the VT killer was a red flag that may have been predictive of his actions. His literature & poetry professors had similar comments.

I think some people on this blog need watching…

By Brian Curtis

April 18, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

True; DullAndy is pretty obviously a mass-murderer in the making. All he needs is a rifle to stroke while he mutters to himself.

By Tacobet

April 18, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

upon first look I was disgusted then I realized that ML finally gets it - if we continue to fail to stop the violence in Iraq then how can we stop the violence at home. If ML’s solution is to leave then watch out america. I anticipate the day when ML’s cartoon will be a map of the states with the word Iraq in hundreds of places. Thanks ML for your positive outlook.

By Eric

April 18, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this

Perfectly appropriate and right on target. Point well made!

By ron

April 18, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

Luckovich, your cartoon is an insult to decent people.I too think you may need to seek professional help.Instead of being political you seem intent on being as nasty as possible to the victims at Virginia Tech.Since you oviously can’t support their grief,why can’t you simply leave them alone?

By Paul

April 18, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

Luckodull

Regarding the quote from Ali Mohammed, US forces left Saudi Arabia around 2003. It was not a result of Al Qaeda actions, though.

Readers should note that many in the US referenced bin Laden remarks to the effect that their objective was to force US withdrawal from Saudi Arabia, that if we would just do this all would be well - because he said so. We withdrew and all is not well. It’s not simple - but we could give in to every one of this fanatic’s demands and his hatred and violent actions against all things non-Islamist would continue.

By Mike D

April 18, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Luk is exactly right. What would happen if 50-100 people were murdered EVERY DAY somewhere in this country. Bombs going off, children dying, blood in the streets…

By Paul

April 18, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Good Morning, N-GA

George Will wrote a column, “Anger is All the Rage” that seems pretty accurate.

Link: Anger is All The Rage

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Bush and Republicans want to block drug price negotiation bill

By Goldie

April 18, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Absolutely love this toon, Luckovich! Many Americans are not paying attention to the level of carnage happening on a daily basis in Iraq… those Iraqi citizens are seeing their family and friends killed every day.

By Mrs. Godzilla

April 18, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole, says is much better than I possibly could.

“Remember that we’re all concerned, as we should be, about these events at Virginia Tech today. In Iraq this is a daily event. Imagine how horrible it would be if this kind of massacre were occurring every single day. And the people of Iraq feel that either the Americans are not stopping it or they’re actually causing it.”

We must support the majority of Americans who want the Democrats to stand firm on the emergency war funding bill.

No more blank checks for George Bush’s oil war.

By Mike

April 18, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Nothing gets in the way of partisan attacks at the AJC.

I’d like to say that I am surprised by Luckovich’s lame cheap shots, but of course this is the low level of discourse that the AJC is famous for.

He attacked Bush. Somebody get him an award!

By Tired of the AJC

April 18, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Hey ML, Your a piece of CR*P.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

“By Mike D

April 18, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Luk is exactly right. What would happen if 50-100 people were murdered EVERY DAY somewhere in this country. Bombs going off, children dying, blood in the streets”

We would be called Iraq. It is happening there. Wake up.

Geez.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

In The News

The original prohibition against competition was championed by Rep Billy Tauzin (R-La). After he left the house he picked up a multimillion dollar job heading a drug company lobbying consortium (at least, that’s what I call it).

Tha Administration makes the case that competition among insurers is more effective than gov’t intervention and that the Defense model is not applicable. Personally, I think it’s an attempt to forestall a universal health car program.

One question, though - through the time we’ve had the prescription drug bill, who has introduced legislation to do away with this provision? Any Republicans? Any Democrats? Maybe it wouldn’t have made it to the floor for a vote, but introducing bills is often used as a tactic to highlight a topic.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

{{{By N-GA

April 18, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this

I think some people on this blog need watching.}}}

N-GA,

I’m with LuckoDull on this one. Monkey Boy aka One Voice aka One Punk uses this blog as a vanity press for his punk stalker fantasies and anti-religious diatribes all the time.

And, gosh, wasn’t it you who said “DIE DANISH”??

There are a lot of mentally-ill freaks on this blog!

Turn yourself in N-GA.

By Goldie

April 18, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis— you are right-on about Andy-Dull being a menace to society. Here’s just a small portion of what he posted on yesterdays’ blog:

{{“Goldilocks: I like to keep fully loaded 30 round clips just in case 30 of you libs show up uninvited in my backyard.

Know what I mean?”}}

Yes, I certainly know what he means, and he needs some serious psych counselling to help him deal with his rage against fellow Americans.

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Right on target Mr. Luckovich!

By getalife

April 18, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

What really is disgusting are people like Andy (LuckoDull), ron and Mike D who cheer on the slaughter of innocent Iraqis.

Once again, save your fake outrage.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Next up for federal de-listing: bald eagle

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Brilliant!

Two consecutive days of brilliance!

Mike, you’re the best!

I’ll bet Luckodull’s blood pressure is off the charts!!

Also, once again, Congrats to Cynthia Tucker!! Keep p**’ off the grumpy white folk who think “Leave it to Beaver” was real!!!

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

McCloskey Leaves Republican Party

By Paul

April 18, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

G’morning. Followup from yesterday - what was it about pondering if tougher prison conditions for violent felons could have an inhibiting effect on recidivism or upon those in the communities where they’d speak struck you as a Mussolini-style fascism? Or did I misread your comment?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

“April 17, 2007

Dear Colleague:

This week I intend to introduce Articles of Impeachment with respect to the conduct of Vice President Cheney. Please have your staff contact my office … if you would like to receive a confidential copy of the document prior to its introduction in the House.

Sincerely,

/s/

Dennis J. Kucinich

Member of Congress”

And so it starts.

Thank you Mr. Kucinich.

By JeffMan

April 18, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

What’s funny is that Luckovich and Tucker actually think their opinions matter and are changing things.

By gadem

April 18, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Jeffman, would you rather people sit on the sidelines and say nothing…or be a cheerleader to this impotent administration? I am sure that your voice was loud and obnoxious during Clinton’s years in the Whitehouse.

By Swiftvoter

April 18, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

‘Watch him………….He’s got a dull knife’ and he pretends to sleep!

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By Mrs. Godzilla

April 18, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Thanks getalife

Thanks Mr. Kucinich

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

{{{By Paul April 18, 2007 8:18 AM Luckodull Regarding the quote from Ali Mohammed, US forces left Saudi Arabia around 2003. It was not a result of Al Qaeda actions, though.}}}

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Paul: I didn’t mean to infer anything to Saudi Arabia, I meant to convey the fact that Al Qaeda knows how to affect American public opinion and have made that a strategy.

{{{By Mike D April 18, 2007 8:21 AM Luk is exactly right. What would happen if 50-100 people were murdered EVERY DAY somewhere in this country.}}}

There are 50 people murdered every day in the United States dullard, but you pervert liberals can’t beat on Bush with it so you don’y give a F.

Wanker.

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By lovelyliz

April 18, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

It is sad what happened at VA Tech and we are so moved by it. It’s sadder still when we close our eyes when this happens elsewhere in the world.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Elite?

By Truthsayer

April 18, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Luckovich is trivializing what happened Monday with this second tasteless cartoon in a row and he also shows a fountain of ignorance about what we are up against not just as a nation but as a civilization in our ongoing conflict with the evil that is radical Islam.

On another note, a new Stanford U. study shows that pollutants from so-called green fuels such as ethanol are actually more damaging to the environment and cause more ground level ozone and would cause at least 30 more deaths per year in LA alone from air pollution.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull

I thought that might have been your point. I referenced it not as a “gotcha” but because I still hear people say words to the effect “the only reason we’re in Saudi Arabia…” To their credit, some can actually locate it on a map!

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Speaking of mentally unstable bloggers that fit Ch0’s description, I mentioned yesterday when the blog was closing that N-GA had been in on the threats against all of us. In the threat all of our computers were supposed to be HACKED into to initially cause financial difficulty and then ultimately use the information to cause physical harm to our families.

Late last night he HACKED into the AJC blog to tell us he would have had no part of a HACKING threat.

N-GA is a ticking timebomb if ever there was one. There are a few others here too. Left wing terrorists like Cho, yet the scribbler rages against those of us that really want to bring world peace.

By Chip McWilliams

April 18, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

I was glad to see the comments in today’s paper lambasting Luckovich over his rediculous and completely insensitive cartoon yesterday comparing the Iraq war to the Va Tech shooting. Then, lo and behold, I turn the page and see that he’s done it again, comparing the shooting at Va Tech to the war in Iraq. Sectarian bloodshed in Iraq is the same as the shooting at Va Tech Luchovich? Please! Luchovich is clearly a one trick pony who is so obsessed with tying everything under the sun to Bush that he has clearly lost his mind and his ability to empathize. Just last week the AJC editors called for Imus’ resignation when he made insensitive comments. Question for you guys at the AJC today: Where is your outrage over Luckovich’s insensitive cartoons and when are you going to call for his ouster? I won’t hold my breath.

By Chip McWilliams

April 18, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

I was glad to see the comments in today’s paper lambasting Luckovich over his rediculous and completely insensitive cartoon yesterday comparing the Iraq war to the Va Tech shooting. Then, lo and behold, I turn the page and see that he’s done it again, comparing the shooting at Va Tech to the war in Iraq. Sectarian bloodshed in Iraq is the same as the shooting at Va Tech Luchovich? Please! Luchovich is clearly a one trick pony who is so obsessed with tying everything under the sun to Bush that he has clearly lost his mind and his ability to empathize. Just last week the AJC editors called for Imus’ resignation when he made insensitive comments. Question for you guys at the AJC today: Where is your outrage over Luckovich’s insensitive cartoons and when are you going to call for his ouster? I won’t hold my breath.

By Chip McWilliams

April 18, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

I was glad to see the comments in today’s paper lambasting Luckovich over his rediculous and completely insensitive cartoon yesterday comparing the Iraq war to the Va Tech shooting. Then, lo and behold, I turn the page and see that he’s done it again, comparing the shooting at Va Tech to the war in Iraq. Sectarian bloodshed in Iraq is the same as the shooting at Va Tech Luchovich? Please! Luchovich is clearly a one trick pony who is so obsessed with tying everything under the sun to Bush that he has clearly lost his mind and his ability to empathize. Just last week the AJC editors called for Imus’ resignation when he made insensitive comments. Question for you guys at the AJC today: Where is your outrage over Luckovich’s insensitive cartoons and when are you going to call for his ouster? I won’t hold my breath.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Paul,

This is the passage from N-GA that I was referring to:

Here’s the kicker: the town did not feed its prisoners. The families passed food thru the bars. If there was a big guy who was hungry, he probably took most of your food. But the town had no money to pay for food.>>>>> Needless to say there was very little crime.<<<<< I never heard of an assualt on any American GI.>>>>In fact, it was far more likely for an American to break the law than a local.<<<<<<

To which you responded with your own solutions about how to handle the prison population and said, {{{Not quite the Turkish/Middle East model, but one that would likely engender a low recidivism rate.}}}

You have have also taken a strong anti-gun position, which leaves people defenseless against the very criminals and psychos you have harsh solutions for…after the fact, and of course leaves us defenseless against tyrants like a Mussolini, or those who believe in Sharia Law.

By JeffMan

April 18, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

gabem, I would rather people be intelligent rather than trivialize things like the VaTech shootings. The violence that Luckovich cites is only happening in a small area of Iraq - a country he has never been to and I just got back from.

I suggest Mike go over and see what’s going on before he sits and makes daily jabs at the war effort. As an army enlisted man, it insults me and angers me that someone who never fought or served this country has the gall to criticize military operations. You all have no idea what its like to go into harms way while people who have never served this country in any form or fashion criticize you.

You people insult me and are disgraces.

By YO' WAIT A MINUTE RW CHICKENHEART

April 18, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

“”Left wing terrorists like Cho”“

From what I have read (you do read don’t you RW?) he sounds more like one of the right wing nuts jobs.

You know the unibomber loner types..

Eric Robert Rudolf if he was a korean

How many libs stock up on guns and ammo?

RW you chickensh!t,bullsh!t artist

face it this creeps M.O. is most definitely RIGHT WING

we all smell your fear

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

RW: Check this out-

{{{By N-GA April 18, 2007 8:06 AM CNN reported today that the blogging content of the VT killer was a red flag that may have been predictive of his actions. His literature & poetry professors had similar comments. I think some people on this blog need watching…}}}

{{{By Brian Curtis April 18, 2007 8:07 AM True; DullAndy is pretty obviously a mass-murderer in the making. All he needs is a rifle to stroke while he mutters to himself.}}}

It took Brian Curtiss exactly one minute to read N-Ga’s post and then comment on it.

Or it took N-GA less than one minute to post a comment deflecting attention from himself and then to enter another comment reinforcing the first post.

Which ever way you want to look at it.

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By Little Right of Center

April 18, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

RE, On yesterdays little quiz, not bad. But please explain what makes a rifle an “assault” rifle? Is it because it’s painted black or some other superficial looking thing?

The only different between a Glock and Ruger mini 14 is the length of the barrel and the size of the projectile. So why is the Glock not an assault weapon? I guess assault sounds so much more menacing than semi automatic.

N-GA, You are wrong when you say I’m a “cannon ready to go off, just looking for an excuse to shoot someone”. I never go out looking for trouble but unlike your kind, I am prepared to defend myself, my family and my possessions from any low life. If the only way is to use deadly force then so be it.

Again, you other comment was incorrect also, “He wants to shoot car thieves” I did shot the car thief in Texas, he died. But the investigation landed ~15 of his associates in jail with the charges ranging from auto thief, assault with intent and one murder charge. So I consider that a good $1.50 spent on one round of ammunitions. But I guess you would have preferred that I talk nice to the low life, maybe get him some counseling and give him the keys to my other vehicles and house. Obviously he need them more than I did. Is not the the way of the left?

When you coddle scum, you breed more scum.

By Walt

April 18, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

“Luckovich over his rediculous and completely insensitive cartoon yesterday comparing the Iraq war to the Va Tech shooting. Then, lo and behold, I turn the page and see that he’s done it again, comparing the shooting at Va Tech to the war in Iraq.”

I think what ML was trying to get across is that we shouldn’t used to the carnage numbers coming out of Iraq. That is very easy to do.

Walt

By gadem

April 18, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

So Jeffman, you feel better that people that has never served send you off to fight in an ill-conceived war…with no regard for your well being. You would rather people that have never served cheerlead from the sidelines while your fellow soldiers die day by day? Atleast those that oppose the war are doing so because we are tired of seeing young men and women die for a worthless cause. You should be angry at those that sent you there, not the ones that are trying to bring you home.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

{{{By getalife

April 18, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

What really is disgusting are people like Andy (LuckoDull), ron and Mike D who cheer on the slaughter of innocent Iraqis.

Once again, save your fake outrage.}}}

Getalife,

I will try to be as kind as possible to you under the circumstances. I ask you for once in your adult life to have an open mind. I urge you to read this account by Rocco DiPippo, an American who is working in Iraq as a contractor, and his assesment of how his Iraqi friends, “innocent Iraqis”, would be “slaughtered” if the Democrats plan to pull out of Iraq prematurely succeeds.

Indeed, I urge everyone on both sides of the aisle to read this account, in its entirety.

Here is an excerpt, where he describes what he calls the “human-hunters” who prey on Iraqis:

People who have done no wrong should not have such fear of other people. Those innocents must somehow be protected from the human-hunters. It is the right thing to do, and America’s soldiers are rightly trying to do that. Yet if the American Left and the American Democratic Party accomplish their goal of pulling the protectors from Iraq before law and order there is restored, shemagh-wrapped hunters will stalk their human prey with impunity. They will murder hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of innocent men and women and children in Iraq. And some day America will pay a dear price for that folly when the hunters of humans, the Islamic religious fanatics, the bombers and the woman haters, emboldened by their victory in Iraq and possessing the resources to amplify their destructiveness and to extend its reach, again take aim at America’s shores.

This is not fake outrage, this is reality.

By Walt

April 18, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

“As an army enlisted man, it insults me and angers me that someone who never fought or served this country has the gall to criticize military operations.”

I’ll do it then.

George Bush is a war criminal.

His non-leadership has caused the unnecceary deaths of thousands of US service people and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

He has dragged the good name of the United States and the Flag through the mud.

If there is any justice he can’t avoid going to prison.

Walt

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

The only other possibility is that left wingers like Cho, N-GA, and Brainless all think exactly the same way so it’s theoretically possible for the posts to be unrelated.

YWAMRC,

Tell me again about all the right wingers that indoctrinate themselves in the campus science club filled with Darwiniacs, stalk people, fantasize over pictures instead of developing real relationships, rail against the wealthy and religion. A list would be helpful too.

I bet I can match every one of those traits with one or more of you leftist scum. GFY

By Paul

April 18, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Thanks for the explanation. N-GA’s reference to prison conditions in other parts of the world (which I do not advocate advocating) started the discussion. My response was intended to convey that for murderers, rapists (two of the most vile categories, in my opinion) if prisons were in remote locations, with nasty weather, if there was a work regimen, basic food, few amenities, with the requirement that upon release convicts would have to speak to at-risk youths about the reality of prison life that there might be some positive effects.

I’m not “anti-gun.” Nor am I “pro-gun.” I think, no matter how one reads the Second Amendment, they are a fact of life in this country. I do not look at it as “ban guns” nor as “everything’s fine.” I think people with good citizenship records should be able to own firearms (and will, as that’s how the law has evolved). I think the checks should be tough, that they should indemnify the community if their firearms are used to unlawfully injure others, and that standards should be uniform among the states. I think there should be reasonable (open to opinion, I know) limits on types of weapons and the ammunition (the Kevlar bullet controversy comes to mind). I think there should be strong sanctions against those who violate firearm purchasing and selling laws or who use firearms in the commission of a crime.

I hope this clarifies my views. Not looking for agreement, disagreement, as I think the topic is on hold for now - but thanks for the opportunity for followup.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

You are welcome Mrs. Godzilla.

Well, we took a vote on this blog and all voted yes to Andy being insane.

He is our little Cho and should be watched.

Nuff said about that cult member.

Today’s slaughter, so far

Geez.

By YO' WAIT A MINUTE RW CHICKENHEART

April 18, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

””“Tell me again about all the right wingers that indoctrinate themselves ….at JESUS CAMP??

Praise Bush!!!!

GFY x2

By BOB

April 18, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

MIKE, YOU ARE RIGHT ON! SOME DAY I WOULD LIKE TO SHAKE YOUR HAND.

By BOB

April 18, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

MIKE, YOU ARE RIGHT ON! SOME DAY I WOULD LIKE TO SHAKE YOUR HAND.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Paul,

It’s a ridiculous argument to say “no matter how one reads the 2nd amendment.” That gives the implication that it may not apply to individuals. It’s pretty hard to believe that of the Bill of Rights nine amendments apply to individuals and one got stuck in there to apply to a group.

I’ve got to head out, hope to catch up with you all later.

N-GA, I’ll leave my computer on line so you can take your best shot while I’m out.

By JP

April 18, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Dusty, are you here? I have a news clipping for you:

*Gates said demands in the U.S. Congress for a timeline to withdraw American troops from Iraq are constructive because they exert pressure on Iraq’s leaders to forge compromises.

“The debate in Congress … has been helpful in demonstrating to the Iraqis that American patience is limited,” Gates told Pentagon reporters traveling with him in Jordan.*

How do you explain your continued Kool Aid drinking? Why do you and your ilk continue to misrepresent reality, and continue to claim that only “resolve” and will power will help us “win”? Do you even have the faintest idea what you’re talking about?

Let’s all fall in line behind Bush, so the Iraqis think we’ll never leave. Indeed, that’s a splendid idea!

By getalife

April 18, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Thanks but no thanks BD,

I would suggest you watch the documentary on public broadcasting, “America at the crossroads” to see the real Iraq and not a contractors version.

Geez.

Did you know the Iraqis are paid $80 to attack Americans and $200 to kill them?

Watch the documentary to see a billboard in Baghdad that says, I will kill you Americans.

This was filmed in 2005 and it is much worse now.

The violence will be less when we leave. You do not need an open mind to see this reality. All you have to do is wake up.

Geez.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

YWAMRC,

Glad to see you realized I was right about Cho. Too bad you’re too ignorant not to change the subject in a hopeless attempt to obfuscate the issue.

Later!

By JP

April 18, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

This deserves more attention:

Gates said demands in the U.S. Congress for a timeline to withdraw American troops from Iraq are constructive because they exert pressure on Iraq’s leaders to forge compromises.

“The debate in Congress … has been helpful in demonstrating to the Iraqis that American patience is limited,” Gates told Pentagon reporters traveling with him in Jordan.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

RW-the original

Ridiculous? Not really. Just a cursory read of the Constitution (which went on here last week in the battle of Executive/Legislative authority regarding foreign policy) had the word “militia” come up many times. As I read “militia” as a consistent concept and read the Second as a single thought (unfamiliar sentence construction leads some to read it as two rather disconnected ideas), I don’t think anyone who owns a gun is a member of a militia. I think the definition of “militia” was one thing in 1788, another now. Times change. Institutions change. National Guard, a standing army come into being (hence my wisecrack that if gun owners are militia, they can be Federalized and sent to Iraq, take some of the strain off the Guard and Reserve forces).

But it’s a bit esoteric, as guns and gun ownership are a fact of life. I don’t put a “ban” as anywhere in the realm of likely probability. To me, the real issue is what are reasonable laws. I think they’ll continue to land smack in the middle ground.

And I hope it doesn’t become a litmus test for the election.

By YO' WAIT A MINUTE RW CHICKENHEART

April 18, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

RW can’t accept defeat when it is handed to him on a plate.

Chickensh!t.

By reebok

April 18, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

ML - thanks for keeping the pressure on the inept MisAdministration…anything that points out the futility and the death toll of George W’s Excellent Iraq Adventure is obviously a good thing…but didn’t you do basically this same cartoon yesterday?

By LeeAnn

April 18, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

What is sadder than anything is that some people look at this cartoon and react visceraly instead of trying to go deeper and see what he is actually saying. But then I realize that they can’t go deeper because in doing so, they would have to admit that long held beliefs were wrong.

It also amazes me that people so firmly hold on to an administration gone wrong. i was a staunch Clinton supporter, but was adamant in my assertions that he messed up. These people can’t do that. Bush is NEVER wrong and little do they know, but that stance eliminates any credibility they may have had.

By Power of Light

April 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

The accessibility of guns has nothing to do with this tragedy. People carry guns around all the time and they don’t walk into a freaking school and kill 32 people. This whole thing is a set up to manipulate the public into disarming themselves so that we will be defenseless against our true enemies.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

At least, Gates is smater than Rummie:

“The debate in Congress … has been helpful in demonstrating to the Iraqis that American patience is limited,” Gates told Pentagon reporters traveling with him in Jordan. “The strong feelings expressed in the Congress about the timetable probably has had a positive impact … in terms of communicating to the Iraqis that this is not an open-ended commitment.”

That is a no brainer but I can see why w is looking for a war czar.

Can’t go against the little idiot king.

The Iraq government will collapse, then what?

Geez.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAPOLA

“The violence that Luckovich cites is only happening in a small area of Iraq - a country he has never been to and I just got back from.”

It’s not working It’s even worse — 127 are now dead. When AP first posted this article noting that violence had was climbing, there were 33 people dead in 3 explosions:

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You are terribly and apparently hopelessly confused.

One the one hand you claim that conservatives want to “slaughter innocent Iraqis”.

When I give you a link to a story which describes, one by one, how this man’s Iraqi friends will be massacred by the human-hunters, you come back babbling about an NPR story about Iraqis who want to kill Americans.

You are so confused you can’t discern between the enemy (the Iranian-backed Sadrites and Al Qaeda) and the Iraqis who are working with the Americans to secure a self-governed, Democratic state.

That law and order presence gives Iraqis the chance to get on with life. It is making the difference between them cowering in fear of the terrorists, and them giving security forces information leading to the capture or annihilation of terrorists. That presence is emboldening good Iraqis to rise up against their tormenters, and chase them out, which is now happening with increasing frequency throughout the country.///In the end, whether Iraq thrives or descends into total chaos depends largely on whether or not American soldiers stay long enough to restore order, and to impart their skills on Iraqi security forces. If American forces leave before law and order is permanently restored, or before Iraq’s security forces are capable of holding the line against the terrorists, Iraq surely will be lost.

I really am at a loss to understand which Iraqis you are referring to when you bemaon their slaughter and shockingly, blame their fate on conservatives like myself.

Rocco Di Pippo describes our American friends. You are unconcerned about their fate. You say, “no thanks” don’t want to hear about it.

Whose outrage is false, Getalife? Yours or mine?

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

Paul,

It is a ridiculous argument in the context of original intent. You could certainly make the argument that times and circumstances have changed rendering the second amendment obsolete and push for an amendment to strike it down, but you can’t really argue with any credibility that the founders didn’t intend it for individuals.

Blackadder,

Quit impersonating IN THE NEWS. You aren’t any more effective as YWAMRC than you are with any of your other dozens of names.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

LeeAnn,

What does what happened on the campus of Virginia Tech, have to do with George Bush?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Well said LeeAnn.

I think it is like a cult where the leader never does wrong.

Here is the best part.

They blame it on the liberals.

Brainwashed by RW talk radio.

These folks are dangerous like Cho.

By Brian Curtis

April 18, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

JeffMan: “As an army enlisted man, it insults me and angers me that someone who never fought or served this country has the gall to criticize military operations.”

Then you might want to consider transferring to a country whose military isn’t kept tightly under civilian control, and accountable to citizen command, the way ours is.

The fact is, U.S. soldiers are both our employees and our representatives in other nations. We have every right—in fact, every DUTY—to monitor your actions, criticize bad command decisions by your leaders, and condemn you when you step out of line. You work for us.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

BD,

That is an ignorant question.

Look at the toon cultist.

Geez.

By RoccoDiPimpo

April 18, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Boy,am I a great thinker

By lovelyliz

April 18, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

127 dead today in Baghdad. We shouldn’t lose sight of what is going on in the rest of the world.

33 dead on a college campus is a horrible, horrible thing, but could you imagine losing many times that in one city month after month?

By Power of Light

April 18, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

It is amazing how desperate some of you are to blame everything on Bush. You could’nt resist the temptation of connecting him to VT.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Good point - it was intended for individuals as there was no real government authority that had strong law enforcement influence throughout the states. That goes back to the genesis of the American character - self reliance, etc. Plus, we’d just fought a war against an oppressive government and there were still some who thought a “King George (Washington)” would be a fine idea.

But it seems “militia” was different then (as I understand it, pretty much an irregular citizen force who were required to outfit themselves) than now (Guard under the control of governors).

By YO' WAIT A MINUTE RW CHICKENHEART

April 18, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

RW

Did you go to Jesus Camp too?

Build-a-facist!

Create-a-neocon!

All over the world - RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS spread terror in the name of their ideology.

You are one of THEM

Thanks for the compliment by the way…

Chickensh!t.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Rocco

That’s just a link to an extremist blog (that Republicans will say typifies Democrats) citing extremists they characterize as Republicans.

Used to be one had to go to meetings in the middle of the night to listen to nuts like this.

Out of character, maybe, so I’ll use “nuts” in a descriptive sense meaning a bit of a loss of perspective.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Well BD,

Let me try to break it down really slowly.

The Iraqis are not too happy about Americans occupying their country to steal their oil.

Lets say China did the same thing to us. You would cower under your bed but real Americans would fight.

Do you get it now?

They are united to kill Americans. They like to kill each other over religious ethnicity for centuries.

Our troops are stuck in the middle by your cult leader.

This is my outrage but you have no problem with it.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

I see the appalling “toon”. I know what Lee Ann said.

By fatuously comparing the situation in Iraq to VA Tech, and specifically mentioning George Bush, it is reasonable to conclude that you are blaming Bush.

Just like Keith Olbermann.

This is clearly too difficult for you Getalife. Too complicated, even too “nuanced” for you to understand, particularly in your fevered state.

By Power of Light

April 18, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

This incident was orchestrated to justify the disarmament of the american public. Our freedoms are on their way out the door.

By @@

April 18, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Wow ml!!! Look at all that “free space” in the U.S.

Are you one of those L L L elitist who promotes “Freedom for me, but not for thee?”

That’s my cartoon comment. Now, I find this article very interesting.

Sadr Prevails over Osama and Ahmadinejad

(((While President Bush has been a Neville Chamberlain by appeasing Iran throughout this sorry affair, Erdogan has been a Winston Churchill.)))

This would totally contradict what we’ve all been led to believe. However, when you really get into some in-depth research, Moderate Middle Eastern publications as well as Moderate European publications, and various analysis sites, you can see this as a possible reality.

I use the word ^^^ “possible” because one never really knows. We know only what “they” want us to know.

Iran never had supreme influence over all of Iraq’s shiites (Persian Publication “Shiite Unity a Myth”). Only the thugs whose interest is southern oil fields. Those same groups have been referred to as splinter groups from the al-Sadr militia and that Sadr had lost control. Did he? It appears now that they aren’t Sadrites. They’re Iran’s proxies, and al-Sadr opposes them.

Maliki was thankful to al-Sadr for withdrawing his cabinet members. al-Sadr and his cabinet members had no intention of withdrawing from the day to day political operations.

Maliki has now said that U.S. troops could be out of Iraq by the end of 2007. That his government and their security could have full control of the country by then, but that the sectarian rivalries would probably continue.

When coalition forces were withdrawn from the southern regions and placed on Iran’s borders, al-Sadr proclaimed that as a victory. Withdrawal OR redeployment.

But what do I know? Only what “they” want me to know.

One thing I DO KNOW, President Bush has no problem with being viewed as “the bad guy” so that victory can be achieved.

Where the heck is that Sistani guy? What has he been up to lately?

I know, I know…mine is a “positive” outlook. Something that is never welcome here by the leftists, so I’m gone for the day and will leave you to wallow in your misery.

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Bye Danish.

Please go to work and stop the drivel.

TM

You are wrong, wrong, wrong about Iraq.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Keith writes really well and he is taking a job with the NFL.

Rush got fired when he attacked McNabb.

Ouch.

By The Power of Truth

April 18, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

It is amazing how desperate some of you are to forgive every crime of George W. Bush. You can’t accept that the buck stops somewhere in the general area of the oval office. (He sure won’t admit anything)

By JP

April 18, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Danish, i believe the Congress that let that expire was the Republican Congress, lap-dogs to one President Bush. Granted his comment was a stretch, but it’s NOT a stretch to clarify that a Republican policy of gun-freedom may have aided the scale of the massacre.

Do you even dare to suggest that O’Reilly’s comments are always accurate and never exaggerated?

Just like O’Reilly, feel free to comment on Olbermann and increase his ratings. I’m sure your pride is swelling that O’Reilly’s numbers are higher, but you’re seeing a growing resistance with Olbermann’s large ratings growth.

Proud Olbermann fan here!

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

@@,

Like all Iraqis that helped us, they are hiding.

By Scooter

April 18, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

ml must not realize these type cartoons demean the losses experienced at VT.

I was curious why ml would draw Iraq and not include Darfur. Are people not dying everyday in Darfur, or does Darfur illustrate the evils of men that aren’t GWB? Are we not promoting unilateral military intervention in Darfur any longer? Oh I know, we are going to leave that one to the ever trusted United Nations

I’ll post this again to illustrate the left’s opportunistic and fake compassion for the Iraqi people More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation.. Listen to democrats and you have to think they would’ve left the Sanctions in place, even though we now know Saddam had bought favor in the UN Security Council and had every intention of restarting his WMD programs once his purchased favor eroded the sanctions away.

I’m sure someone will provide the argument that we can’t invade countries over their intentions. But I would ask what should be done when a country defies, deceives and blatantly disregards more than a dozen direct demands of the UN over a 12 year period and after 9/11 the CIA Director from the previous Administration says it is a certainty that country has WMD’s. Listen to the “Bush lied” crowd and they would tell you the President should ignore the CIA Director, and other assessments, and focus on the few that say there is no threat. But, if a presidential daily brief says some Middle-Eastern men have been photographing federal buildings in New York, well; that is cause for…?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

“But, if a presidential daily brief says some Middle-Eastern men have been photographing federal buildings in New York, well; that is cause for…? “

Mmmm, taking picure of buildings.

Well w would invade if they had oil but I do not think it is against the law to take picures.

I guess in the Patriot Act, we could send them to Gitmo and beat a confession out of them.

By George

April 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Hey Dull, now tell us how much safer it is in Iraq!!!!

4 Bombings Kill 157 People in Baghdad

BAGHDAD — Four large bombs exploded in mostly Shiite areas of Baghdad on Wednesday, killing at least 157 people and wounding scores as violence climbed toward levels seen before the U.S.-Iraqi campaign to pacify the capital began two months ago.

By @@

April 18, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Alright Getalife, since you responded…

did you know that many people create their own misery so that they can justify their use of drugs.

That’s what I’ve heard at least, but what do I know?

You would know more about “THAT” than I would.

(ISH) <—- Insert smile here.

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Back in 2000, the NRA’s Vice President, Kayne Robinson (who was also the Chair of Iowa’s Republican Party), boldly asserted that if George Bush won, the group be working out of his office.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

@@,

I do use drugs but are prescribed by one doctor.

I can steal hear without a hearing aid and do not need Viagra like Rush.

Oops, I attacked your cult leader again.

My bad.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

steal = still.

Geez, I must be high.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

{{{The Iraqis are not too happy about Americans occupying their country to steal their oil.}}}

Getalife,

No, it is time to go through this very SLOWLY with you. I doubt it will do much good since you suffer from BDS which destroys reason, but I’ll give it a shot, since hope springs eternal:

The ENEMY are not happy about our being there. The ENEMY are the Mahdi Army of Al Sadr, and Al Qaeda.

The ENEMY also includes IRAN and SYRIA who are complicit in allowing ENEMY FIGHTERS to train and organize in their countries and then kill OUR IRAQI FRIENDS and AMERICANS.

Our FRIENDS are the Iraqis that Rocco Di Pippo so movingly and eloquently describes in this piece:

It has been said by the Left that Democrats are more empathetic than Republicans. It has also been said by leftists and those sympathetic towards them that they are more compassionate than people on the Right, that the Left fights for “the oppressed,” for the “little man,” for “human rights” and for “civil rights.” Yet the Left is willing, almost eager, to abandon the people of Iraq, a people desperately in need of all the Left says it offers. It is ready to abandon innocent Iraqis to those who will brutally oppress them, who will deny them their rights, including the most basic one of all: the right to live. //It is indeed time for the Left to prove, through action, that it is truly concerned for the welfare of the oppressed. And there is no better way for it to accomplish that than by putting aside its vile hatred of the President, and supporting the soldiers and the policy makers who are trying to bring peace and stability to the Iraqi people, a people who for forty years, have truly been oppressed. The new Iraq security plan implemented by President Bush is helping end that oppression. And since the Left long ago anointed itself the champion of the oppressed, it makes sense for it support that plan, instead of trying to subvert it.

Why do you want to have our Iraqi FRIENDS massacred by the ENEMY?

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Myths and Falsehoods: Congressional war spending bills

By liberals are verminous SCUM

April 18, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

I see the usual putrid America hating liberal filth on here have dredged up their usual robotic unthinking sick and twisted Bush hate. Who cares what should have been aborted at birth liberal lefties have to say. Their smug spastic lemming like hate is highly amusing though. In all seriousness though, watching these impotent pathetically inadequate cowardly far left keyboard warriors one does wonder why they get to live and other vastly more worthy folks are gunned down for no reason elsewhere.

By The opposite ofliberals are verminous SCUM

April 18, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Your mama

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

{{{By George April 18, 2007 10:36 AM Hey Dull, now tell us how much safer it is in Iraq!!!! 4 Bombings Kill 157 People in Baghdad}}}

Good for you Georgie girl, you little queenie, you and al-Gitmo should be so happy.

Your little band of terrorists killed a bunch more innocent women and children, yay!

That’ll show Bush, yay!

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By ROCCO DiPIMPO

April 18, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

I’m just one great freaking guy

By Dusty

April 18, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

JP @ 9:44,

YOU are the “ilk” and I am the “silk”. OK. That’s silly but YOU could stop the name calling. Also you could stop taking lines out of context to make a point.

Your link was mainly about Sadr, the anti-American S** leader now in Iran, who has withdrawn his representatives from Iraqi government. You skipped the part where Sadr “…renewed demands that the Iraqi government set a deadline for the withdrawal from Iraq of U.S. troops”.

In other words, you liberals are making the same demands as an anti-American political leader in Iraq.

Gates did not ask for timelines. He said that the “discussion” of timelines would help the Iraqi government understand that American patience is not unlimited. GATES DID NOT ASK FOR SET DEADLINES.

By the way, Luckovich’s cartoon comparing war time casualties with an American tragedy by an unstable person is absolutely pure propaganda. Is the anti-American Sadr a hero of all of you liberals who want to set a date for the cut-and-run schedule? You seem to think alike.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

Speaking of Darfur, I found this fascinating historical article about how the situation in the Sudan evolved, going back to the late 1800s.

It is perfectly apropos to the situation in Iraq, where political forces forced the Brits out of the Sudan, with horrific results.

Some highlights:

[In 1881, with Gordon back in Britain, a Sudanese Islamic fundamentalist proclaimed himself the Mahdi (“expected one”) and, allied with the slave raiders, threatened the entire Sudan…//Matters remained relatively stable until 1945, when the British electorate threw Winston Churchill out of power. Churchill knew only too well what was at stake in the Sudan; as a young man, he had been part of Kitchener’s forces at Omdurman. The ousting of Churchill’s Conservatives spelled trouble for Sudan. In 1947, the new British regime betrayed South Sudan, agreeing to an eventually united Sudan in the hands of Khartoum…Strenuous protests notwithstanding, Britain effectively handed the reigns of government over to northern Islamicists in Khartoum in 1956.//The worst fears of Sudan experts in Britain and elsewhere came to pass.]http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=4078)

By Paul

April 18, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Getalife Buy Danish 10:48

Didn’t we just read/discuss a couple weeks ago that the contracts approved by the Iraqi assembly (not reconstruction, but for their oil products) went to non-US firms?

By jp

April 18, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

The news medi are the common carriers of public discussion, and this responsibility forms a basis for their special privileges. Discussion serves society best when it is informed by facts rather than prejudices and supposition. Mike is definetly one of the secular progressives. So is so far to the left , it makes all of his points unbelievable.

By George

April 18, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Dull, I know that math is not your strong point so I just point out that 157 killed in Iraq today is almost 5 Va Techs in one day.

I guess that accounts for 5 of the Va Techs on the ML toon but the day is still young.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

RoccoDiPimpoDiStalinisti,

[Media Matters?’(http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7150)

That Stalinist wing of the Democratic Party, funded by George Soros, who launders his donations through other left wing groups who want to silence all opposition?

The group who is so intolerant of free speech that they cite the fact that Rush Limbuagh parodies NOW with NAGS, the National Association of Gals, as reason to silence him like they just did to Imus?

Media Matters were clearly the impetus behind the Imus situation. They are a dangerous threat to the freedom of speech in this country.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Scooter,

Let me try that link again!

In 1881, with Gordon back in Britain, a Sudanese Islamic fundamentalist proclaimed himself the Mahdi (“expected one”) and, allied with the slave raiders, threatened the entire Sudan…//Matters remained relatively stable until 1945, when the British electorate threw Winston Churchill out of power. Churchill knew only too well what was at stake in the Sudan; as a young man, he had been part of Kitchener’s forces at Omdurman. The ousting of Churchill’s Conservatives spelled trouble for Sudan. In 1947, the new British regime betrayed South Sudan, agreeing to an eventually united Sudan in the hands of Khartoum…Strenuous protests notwithstanding, Britain effectively handed the reigns of government over to northern Islamicists in Khartoum in 1956.//The worst fears of Sudan experts in Britain and elsewhere came to pass.

Paul,

Not only is that correct, but Getalife is terribly upset that the oil fields will no longer be nationalized as they were in the 1950s by Saddam Hussein.

By JR

April 18, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

I don’t even understand today’s cartoon. Can someone please explain it.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Nevermind BD.

You are a hopeless cult freak still believing in w’s bs.

Watch the documentary I suggested and who knows, maybe you will wake up but I doubt it.

Paul,

If you talking about the oil law, it has not passed yet and would be surprised if it does.

Of course, with the corruption in Iraq, there is a chance.

Big oil helped write the oil law so they will get some of their oil.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish 11:10

Ever notice how groups like Media Matters portray themselves as “arbiters of truth” with “absolutely no agenda” while everyone else (particularly conservative sites) are “biased, slanted, and misrepresent all things good and true?”

By ROCCO DiPIMPO

April 18, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

And the American Thinker is as Fair and Balanced as Fox,

Ignorant Redneck, Trailer Trash Goober wanna be

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Arrrrggggh. I’m link-challenged today.

Media Matters.

On another topic, may I take this opportunity to thank George Bush for appointing great jurists to the Supreme Court who have ruled that States can outlaw the practice of partial birth abortion.

I extend my praise to all the jurists who voted with the majority:

Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Kennedy.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

BD,

Stop lying.

Soros does not fund Media Matters.

Go spread your lies at wooten’s.

Sick of the lies.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Rocco 11:16

That discussion tactic is so worn-out I’m surprised some still use it:

Mom: “Johnny, your room’s a mess. You told me you cleaned it.”

Johnny: “Suzi’s room’s a mess. Look at it!”

Mom: “Suzi! Get in here!”

Johnny: “heh, heh, heh. Diversion works!”

I’ll simplify: Sustitute “questioning person” for “Mom” and “Rocco” for “Johnny”.

By ROCCO DiPIMPO

April 18, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Trailer Trash Barbie Buy Danish

thinks she can debunk an admitted progressive website by posting from right wing extremists

duh, barbie

there are only 4 or 5 folks left on this blog who are stupid enough to buy that crap

barbie….doe what your master told you

go shopping

you have to be at that at least

just how inbred are you?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

“Gates also said that Iran and Syria need to become part of the solution by reducing the violence and helping promote reconciliation in Iraq — a key goal of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government.”

I guess Speaker Pelosi will have to go to Iran too.

At least this guy has a brain unlike the cultist BD.

Geez.

By Entering from stage left

April 18, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Midori as ROCCO DiPIMPO @ 11:23.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Paul,

What Media Matters is attempting to do is postively frightening. They are incredibly well-financed and well-coordinated. They have a few willing conduits who repeat every talking point that they are fed (like Rosie O’Donnell is just one example).

Here is a fantastic interview with Tammy Bruce, who describes the tactics that these groups use to get their agenda into the MSM.

Read the comment by georgej on April 17, 2007 at 9:40 PM for more insight onto how they operate, with trained operatives who use keywords.

Fascinating.

By liberals are vermInous SCUM

April 18, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Contrasting the dignity and selflessness of the VA Tech folks with the unremitting hate and vile bile of the leftist scum on here sure is an eye opener … like I said it sure is a sick world where innocent decent human beings are gunned down and worthless leftist vermin like these resident liberal zombies get to be depraved treasonous Bush hating keyboard warriors ALL DAY LONG!!

By Paul

April 18, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

What bothers me about people like Rosie is she has an outlet (national show) with a large audience, many of whom (I’m guessing) assume that because she says something, it’s backed up by facts. Then these people take what she says as fact, repeat it, then, when questioned, become apoplectic and retort with “What? You’re just a Bush-lover!” rather than discuss the issue, such as:

9/11, Twin Towers collapse was an operation involving the Secret Service and the CIA. Read: US government officials conspired to murder 3,000 citizens. Credible evidence offered?

None.

Britain staged the abduction of its naval personnel in the manner of the US Gulf of Tonkin charade to justify an attack on Iran.

Ignorantly, pathetically, frighteningly sad when such a propagandist becomes a source for so many.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

KO gives us the world’s worst wingnuts

Talk about scum and they whine about this toon?

Geez.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Paul,

She is an entertainer like Rush and Bill.

Oops, I did it again.

By RE

April 18, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Anyone interested, there is a film I saw last night on cable, Stars channel I think called “why we fight”

It is worth a look for anyone out there. It goes through the buildup to the war in Iraq, a little on how intelligence was formed, and how war is agreed to.

I am sure that a lot of folks will call it a left wing anti-bush movie, but it does not focus on him much at all, most of the interviews are with former and current military and cia, as well as McCain, Kristol, Pearle and a few others.

So here is a question Why are we fighting in Iraq?

By Walt

April 18, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

By Scooter

April 18, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

ml must not realize these type cartoons demean the losses experienced at VT.

I was curious why ml would draw Iraq and not include Darfur. Are people not dying everyday in Darfur, or does Darfur illustrate the evils of men that aren’t GWB? Are we not promoting unilateral military intervention in Darfur any longer? Oh I know, we are going to leave that one to the ever trusted United Nations”

The US Military doesn’t have a presence in Darfur.

We’re not the cause of the strife there.

Walt

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

Media Matters receives no funding from George Soros? Really?

Media Matters has not always been forthcoming about its high-profile backers. In particular, the group has long labored to obscure any financial ties to George Soros. But in March 2003, the Cybercast News Service (CNS) detailed the copious links between Media Matters and several Soros “affiliates”—among them MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress, and Peter Lewis. Confronted with this story, a spokesman for the organization explained that “Media Matters for America has never received funding directly from George Soros” (emphasis added), a transparent evasion.///

It’s interesting that they won’t admit to receivng funding from him since he is one of their heros. Why can’t Liberals admit to who they are and what they really believe?

RockoPinkoPimpo,

That “right wing” group is run by a former Leftist, David Horowitz. Like Tammy Bruce, he knows from persoanl experience how the Left operates.

By David

April 18, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Why doesn’t the AJC moderate these blogs? It is embarrassing.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

For your viewing pleasure

RE,

Oil.

By Our A$$ is on the line America

April 18, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

George Soros and his Open Society will barricade the door behind him and wreak havoc on all of the freedoms we cherish in this great country of ours.

George Soros=EVIL

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Mmmmm, who to believe Drudge or Media Matters?

Gee, Drudge is not credible so I guess I will go with the credible source.

Geez.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

“By Our A$$ is on the line America

April 18, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

George Soros and his Open Society will barricade the door behind him and wreak havoc on all of the freedoms we cherish in this great country of ours.”

Once again, who is stealing your freedoms now?

Where does the buck stop?

Sigh.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

getalife

Didn’t Buy Danish have a point - why the reluctance to name direct and indirect donors? It’s similar to the Democratic aversion to the word “liberal” - if one believes something, why not say so?

Setting up an organization, sending significant sums to an organization, then denying connection because it wasn’t a direct passthrough of funds ( more like money laundering) is disingenuous. I’d have a bit of respect for them if they’s say “we get a lot of money from a lot of sources, from people who believe what we’re doing. Mr. Soros doesn’t send us money from his personal account, but he’s a main source of support for several organizations who believe as we do and we receive significant funding from them.”

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Paul,

It is remarkable that wacko conspiracy-theorists like Rosie who say all sorts of “offensive” and patently false things that actually play into the hands of the enemy are permitted to rant away on a major network, but men like Imus are thrown off the air for using a stupid phrase as part of a botched joke.

By Dusty

April 18, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Walt @ 11:43.

Walt posted that US didn’t have a military presence in Darfur therefore Luckovich would not draw a cartoon including them.

Please tell us about the “military presence” at Virginia Tech since ml compares their tragedy to deaths in Iraq.

There is NO connection at all between Virgina Tech and Iraq. Using an American tragedy as anti-American propaganda is yet another disgrace put out by liberals.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Okay Paul,

I will consider you a member of her kooky cult.

Its a Drudge lie, pure and simple.

You see, after all the lies you lose credibilty and is very difficult to believe anything they spew.

But you go ahead and buy into her bs. I will ignore it.

Geez, freaking cult members.

By RE

April 18, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

I still can’t figure out why people hate george soros so much.

He supported democratic resistance to the soviet union throughout europe in the 70s and 80s. His entire focus has been on creating open markets in emerging countries, and has viewed corruption in those countries as a major source.

So what are you alleging of george soros, is he a communist? a terorrist? or is being someone who think GWB is a terrible president enough for you to hate him?

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Paul

I called it money laundering yesterday, so we are on the same track on this.

Getalife,

I did not link to Drudge. I linked to Discover The Networks who provides a great overview and links to many investigative stories on the topic.

Here’s another story that goes into great detail about who Media Matters is and where they get their funding

Why don’t you try to dispute on important assertion instead of hiding behind Soros’s money laundered indirect donations?

By Goldie

April 18, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

To summarize today’s rants from Dull, Donut, Dusty-brain, Truth-Denier, et al:

“I hate Americans who disagree with me! Hate, hate, hate! And I will continue to vent my rage against those Americans on a daily basis at this blog! Hate, hate, hate!!!”

By Georgia Skeptic

April 18, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

I do not for one moment think that in his cartoon, Mike Lukavich was in any way attempting to trivialize the horror of what happened at Virginia Tech on Monday. I’m certain that the entire episode disgusts and saddens him, as it does the majority of the American people. And rightfully so. The press has tapped into this sense of revulsion and morbid curiosity by providing wall to wall coverage of every last detail of the tragedy. People can’t seem to get enough of it.

But, I ask, where’s the disgust and moral outrage when similar massacres occur, literally on a daily basis, in places like Iraq (in fact, here’s a headline from today’s paper: “4 Bombs Kill at Least 160 People in Baghdad”). It seems like we’ve become so inured to tragedy in other parts of the world that our reaction to these events is on a level par with what we’d manifest if we had just overcooked a grilled cheese sandwich. I guess my point is that if life is sacred when somebody or a group of somebodies are blown up down the street, then life should be just as sacred when the same thing happens on the other side of the world. If we take the time to notice, to show that we care, to raise our voices in protest and outrage, maybe someone will notice, and maybe it will stop.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Take this story for example from Red State

And compare it to this story

Looking at the sources, I have read many lies coming from the Washington Times posted by Andy.

So I tend to believe the other source.

See what I am talking about Paul?

Its called credibility and does exist from the right.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

getalife

I’ve read a number of give-and-take (Christian Science Monitor, among others) that show the relationships between organizations Mr. Soros funds and those organizations’ support of the sites in question.

It just seems to answer a question along the lines of “he never directly gave” is an evasion that doesn’t need to be made.

If that’s kooky, I guess it’s kooky. I’ve found media such as the CSM to be pretty accurate.

By Walt

April 18, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

“By Dusty

April 18, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Walt @ 11:43.

Walt posted that US didn’t have a military presence in Darfur therefore Luckovich would not draw a cartoon including them.

Please tell us about the “military presence” at Virginia Tech since ml compares their tragedy to deaths in Iraq.

There is NO connection at all between Virgina Tech and Iraq. Using an American tragedy as anti-American propaganda is yet another disgrace put out by liberals.”

I am sorry this is so difficult for you to grasp.

The post I responded to compared Darfur and Iraq, not VTech with Iraq or anything else. There being a US military presence in Blacksberg was not part of the equation.

I can’t speak for ML, but I would think that his purpose to was to bring home the death of all these innocent people in Iraq to Americans by reminding them exactly what is going on regarding the human toll in Iraq - today in Iraq there were 5 times the death of the Vtech attack.

It’s too easy to get jaded over the deaths of people far away, but they are just as dead and the grief of the loved ones just as severe.

Walt

By Scooter

April 18, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Walt, I appreciate you repeating what I typed, thanks.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

getalife 12:22

I see your point. Partisans exist across the spectrum. Inaccuracy exists, too (NBC, CBS have had their share of embarassments). While I may not reject everything that comes from a certain source (okay, there are a few), by and large I will treat it skeptically - and go to other sources, preferably the original source, for confirmation or refutation.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

RE,

I think he is the anti Murdoch so they are brainwashed to hate the other side.

Was I right about the oil?

I have been trying to figure it out since Mike’s Why? toon and oil is my conclusion.

By RWH

April 18, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Our world is indeed in a big mess! We are killing, stealing and can’t even get good health care insurance. We keep having gras prices over and above the dollar; we are not brave enough to stop being cheated by those who are doing it. Somebody know how to correct these problems; but the question is…will they?

By RWH

April 18, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Our world is indeed in a big mess! We are killing, stealing and can’t even get good health care insurance. We keep having gras prices over and above the dollar; we are not brave enough to stop being cheated by those who are doing it. Somebody know how to correct these problems; but the question is…will they?

By Brian Curtis

April 18, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty: What propaganda? I haven’t seen any anti-American propaganda in today’s cartoon… only anti-Iraq War (and anti-Bush) sentiments.

Which, of course, are PRO-American. Unlike you.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Offensive right-wing remarks about VA shootings

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

RE,

George Soros is no more interested in an open society than Stalin was.

Here is a list of articles about him.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Yes Paul,

But they admit their mistakes and there are consequences for their mistakes.

You will not see this from the wingnut propaganda.

I go with the credible source who retract if proven wrong.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Two Secret Service officers injured at White House

By getalife

April 18, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

BD even lies on her google searches

Always check her lies.

She is a pathetic liar.

By Truthsayer

April 18, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Georgia Skeptic - I am disgusted by Luckovich almost every day. He is disgustingly anti-American, constantly trivializing the war on terror we are fighting in Iraq and in Afghanistan. His cartoons are almost always either bordering on treasonous in their sympathies or just in bad taste (as when Don Knotts died). In short, he is not only a fool, but a jerk to boot.

By RE

April 18, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

in the movie’s view, oil is a part of it, but not the only factor. I think it is bigger than that as well.

I was having a discussion the other day with my brother in law, talking about insurance companies, he is a lawyer. The thing is, insurance companies don’t make money by paying valid claims, they make money by denying for as long as possible thier claims.

I think the same thing happens with military contractors. Sure they make money when they sell equipment, but they make even more when it has to be replaced and upgraded. Think about some of the contracts, Bradley fighting vehicles, hummvees, m-1 tanks, plus all the munitions being dropped. a Javelin missle costs between around 30k for each missle, the launcher is an additional 40k (roughly), a jdam is around 20k, a tomohawk is more than 700k.

You are not going to order new weapons until you use the ones you have. and when you think about the complexity of the weapon systems, how different components are made in places spread across the country in selected congressional districts, there is a lot of motivation to keep jobs for the congresspeople.

By Truthsayer

April 18, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

getalife - How did Buy Danish lie? I just did both links and her link did link to articles about George Soros, as promised. Your’s also did, but only different articles. Follow your own advice and GET A LIFE!

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

An international poll by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WorldPublicOpinion.org has found that a majority of global citizens think the United States plays the role of international policeman more than it should, that it fails to take other country’s interests into account when it does act, and that in general it cannot be trusted to act responsibly.

Can we have another big “Thank You” for Mr, Bush?

And in what may be a shock to our wingnut friends, the poll finds that citizens of the good old USA tend to agree with their international peers. MOST Americans think that the US needs to be more cooperative, that it plays world cop too much, and that the US shouldn’t remain a sole world superpower.

Just goes to show that the opinions of the majority in our wonderful country are right on track. It’s the lunatic fringe who are sorely out of touch.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

So, when we have dishonest media, cult members and government, this is what happens.

I will leave you with you this message for the lying liars.

Support the cheney impeachment and have a nice day.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

BINGO.

The Washington Post ties Media Matters to George Soros. Note the “demands for secrecy” too:

A year after its founding, Democracy Alliance has followed up on its pledge to become a major power in the liberal movement. It has lavished millions on groups that have been willing to submit to its extensive screening process and its demands for secrecy.//These include the Center for American Progress, a think tank with an unabashed partisan edge, as well as Media Matters for America, which tracks what it sees as conservative bias in the news media…//Democracy Alliance was formed last year with major backing from billionaires such as financier George Soros and Colorado software entrepreneur Tim Gill.

Getalife,

Why don’t you send a letter to WaPo complaining about their “lies”?

Bwahahahaha.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

How Tax Cheats Are Using Your Money to Fund Republicans When it comes to tax cheats, the government has been vocal about catching the little guys but hasn’t focused on the big-time frauds, like Swift Boat financier Sam Wyly, who happens to be a top-tier Republican contributor.

By reebok

April 18, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

I guess I should retract my negative comment about this cartoon…it is now looking startlingly prescient…167 dead so far in Iraq today. Imagine how rough it would be over there if we WEREN’T being greeted as liberators.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

WHO FUNDS THE RIGHT WING THINK???? TANKS Part of the answer lies in the core group of conservative foundations that have been funding organizations like AEI, Heritage, Hudson, Hoover, and Cato. These include, among others, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Smith Richardson Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation (and the Scaife-affiliated Carthage and Allegheny Foundations), the Earhart Foundation, the Castle Rock Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation, and the Koch Industries-affiliated Charles G. Koch Foundation, David H. Koch Foundation, and Claude R. Lambe Foundation. Between them, they have assets of about $1.2 billion, with only two of them, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation and the Smith Richardson Foundation, managing to make it on the US-based Foundation Center’s list of the top 100 charitable foundations by asset size. The former ranks 86th with nearly $580 million in assets in 2001, and the latter 96th, with around $540 million in assets in 2000

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said Tuesday that demands in the U.S. Congress for a time line to withdraw American troops from Iraq are constructive because they exert pressure on Iraq’s leaders to forge compromises. Read that again. Bush’s Defense Secretary said that demands for a time line to withdraw American troops from Iraq are constructive.

“The debate in Congress … has been helpful in demonstrating to the Iraqis that American patience is limited,” Gates told Pentagon reporters traveling with him in Jordan. “The strong feelings expressed in the Congress about the timetable probably has had a positive impact … in terms of communicating to the Iraqis that this is not an open-ended commitment.”

Any wingnuts care to disagree with our Secretary of Defense?

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Ever wonder why right wing groups can afford their own radio and television shows? Or how they pay for issue advertising? Or how former Reagan and Bush administration officials manage to have a Sunday-morning talk show afterlife years after their presidents leave town? The answer is simple: money.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

I finally have a moment to follow up with N-GA who left the impression yesterday that he approves of Sharia Law because it does such a remarkable job of keeping crime down in the Middle East.

Idiot Fool N-GA,

Let’s see what the punishment under Sharia Law is for stealing a car (or in this case, “highway robbery”)

SANDY Mitchell, the Scot placed under sentence of death in Saudi Arabia, has revealed he was due to be executed by crucifixion, writes Christopher Claire.//Mitchell said he was told by his Saudi lawyer that the sentence called for the victim’s head to be “partially” severed and the body fixed to an X-shaped cross in public view for three days.//Public beheadings are routine in Saudi Arabia, but crucifixion is reserved as an exemplary punishment under sharia (Islamic) law for crimes of the utmost severity. Two HIGHWAY ROBBERS have been executed in this way in the past 20 years.

Here is an quick guide from CFR (http://www.cfr.org/publication/8034/#12) about Sharia offenses:

(((1. Wine-drinking and, by extension, alcohol-drinking, punishable by flogging.

No more Marlstone for N-GA!

Unlawful sexual intercourse, punishable by flogging for unmarried offenders and stoning to death for adulterers.

False accusation of unlawful sexual intercourse, punishable by flogging.

Theft, punishable by the amputation of a hand

Highway robbery, punishable by amputation, or execution if the crime results in a homicide.}}}

And “crucifixion” depending on the jurisdiction.

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

{{{By Goldie April 18, 2007 12:18 PM To summarize today’s rants from Dull, Donut, Dusty-brain, Truth-Denier, et al: “I hate Americans who disagree with me! Hate, hate, hate! And I will continue to vent my rage against those Americans on a daily basis at this blog! Hate, hate, hate!!!”}}}

Can’t anyone else see the utter ridiculousness of this post, Goldilocks spewing hate about other people and their “hate?”

Unbelievable how clueless these liberals really are.

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{{{By Georgia Skeptic April 18, 2007 12:20 PM I guess my point is that if life is sacred when somebody or a group of somebodies are blown up down the street, then life should be just as sacred when the same thing happens on the other side of the world. If we take the time to notice, to show that we care, to raise our voices in protest and outrage, maybe someone will notice, and maybe it will stop.}}}

Your point is well understood, at least by those not stricken with Bush Derangement Syndrome.

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By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS,

ARE THE RIGHT WING THINK TANKS INVOLVED IN A SECRETIVE AND COORDINATED EFFORT TO CENSOR SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY??

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Who Funds the Attack on Working People?

By Cindy

April 18, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

BD,

How did those human hunters get into Iraq? If they are islamic fascists I doubt they were there when Hussein was in power.

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Today’s OTHER cartoon that doesn’t suck

By Barbara

April 18, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Amazingly on target (pardon the expression) once again. It shocks the conscience how we Americans regard senseless violent loss of life as somehow acceptable elsewhere. 171 deaths in Iraq is a mere footnote on a newsday dominated by a senseless school shooting that we were powerless to stop.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER IS ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT APPLYING THE DICTUM, “MONEY TALKS,”CONSERVATIVE FOUNDATIONS HAVE LONG BEEN BANKROLLING LIKE-MINDED THINK TANKS AND ADVOCACY GROUPS. TOGETHER, THEY HAVE EFFECTED RADICAL CHANGE.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Shop at your own risk Do you eat Pop-Tarts? Play Tony Hawk? Wipe with Charmin? Well, guess what? You’re funding the funders of the right.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

IDIOT IN THE NEWS,

HOW DO THE RIGHT WING TALK SHOWS FUND THEIR PROGRAMS?

GOSH, COULD IT BE THAT THEY HAVE AN AUDIENCE OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF LISTENERS WHO VOLUNTARILY TURN ON THEIR RADIOS, AND ADVERTISISERS THEN VOLUNTARILY PAY TO ADVERTISE THEIR PRODUCTS ON THEIR SHOWS?

THERE ARE NO FOUNDATIONS NEEDED TO FUND RUSH LIMBAUGH, HANNITY, OR OTHERS. IT’S WHAT THE PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LISTEN TOO!

Oh no! We can’t have that, can we?

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

As a result, right-wing ideological premises and arguments dominate public-issue debate, with big money using this communications infrastructure to drown out other voices, virtually creating a one-dollar-one-vote society.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Oops! Make that “advertisers”.

I need to take pre-emptive action to prevent liberal fascists of falsely accusing me of being illiterate.

We can’t all be as brilliant as Rosie. /sarc.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Right-Wing Thought Police Assault Free Speech on Campus

By LeeAnn

April 18, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

To disagree with the methods used to fight the war on terror is NOT anti-American. Anyone who claims this is a zealot.

This country was founded on our right to openly disagree with an administration gone awry. Anyone and everyone on this blog who disagrees with the Bush administration has every right to do so and it is scandalous to suggest they are anti-American. THAT is propaganda.

IMHO, Mike Luckovich is saying, look at what happened at Virginia Tech. Awful, right? Well, this level of violence is going on DAILY in Iraq. Pay as much attention to that as you do this. It may not be your son or daughter in Iraq, but it is somebody’s. Just as at VT.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Before I go -

LeeAnn,

If you care about the violence in Iraq, read this and think about what will happen to these people if we leave prematurely.

Imagine abandoning Virginia Tech to the maniac who slaughered those students and professors yesterday.

In that sense, there is an analogy.

By Truthsayer

April 18, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Cindy - Saddam himself, and Assad in Syria, were/are both fascists. That is what the Baath Party is. Educate yourself!

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Joining Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, Rove and Gonzales in the “Chichenhawk Gallery of Draft Dodgers”:

Rudy Guiliani!!

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/30661/?

Bunch of Soldier-hating hypocrites!! At least Clinton had the balls to protest an unjust war and not just hide from it!!

By Concerned Citizen

April 18, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Could any of the pro-war bloggers here tell me:

1) What would ‘victory’ in Iraq look like?

2) How long do you think it would take us to create conditions that would ensure that the Government of Iraq is able to: a) keep the majority Shia from attempting to dominate the resources of Iraq? b) keep the Kurds from seperating from Iraq? c) keep the Sunnis in Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan from funding and/or supporting militant actions by Iraqi Sunnis? d) keep Iran from funding and supporting the Shia in Iraq in dominating the country?

Irrespective of your political point of view, we have to get past the platitudes and ask ourselves what are we asking our kids to die for in Iraq? Is there any sustainable military and political goal that can be acheived?

It seems to me that the politics of this Iraq policy is that both sides know its a disaster and they are each strategizing on how to blame the other party for the loss. Bush won’t back down because he is waiting for the people to elect politicians who will pull the plug on this thing so that the right can say that “we would have won but for the left quitting.” On the left, they aren’t going to take any action that will suggest that they ‘own’ this war. Meanwhile we have kids dying over there every day for no damn good reason except political power and the fact that nobody wants to be responsible for the bloody aftermath of our leaving. I think we should remember that there were 2 superpowers in the world in 1980 when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. Ten years later it was through. While we are much more resistant, I am very concerned that our military on our economy is slowly seeping into the quicksand in Iraq. We need to quit acting in and thinking about the best interests of our political party and start thinking about the country.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

LOOK WHAT I FOUND AND WHERE I FOUND IT

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

LIES AND THE LYING LIARS

Sen. Coleman Falsely Claims He Never Nominated Paulose As U.S. Attorney

By JoAn Nunnelly

April 18, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

It is hard to believe that Luckovich would follow up his crass cartoon equating the VA Tech horror to his disapproval of Bush with the similarly outrageously unfeeling cartoon of today. Shame on him and the AJC. Doesn’t anyone at the AJC have the decency to cut his unfunny cartoons? JoAn Nunnelly East Point

By Craig

April 18, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

LeeAnn-Were the 32 people murdered at Virginia Tech on Monday the only murder victims in the US that day?

By Our A$$ is on the line America

April 18, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Even the NYSlimes outed Soros on his connection to Media Matters.

{{{On Dec. 1, 2004 Media Matters issued a statement saying that “neither Media Matters nor its president and CEO David Brock has received any money from [George] Soros or from any organization with which he is affiliated.” Three months later, it revised this statement by acknowledging support from organizations and individuals aligned with or funded by Soros such as moveon.org, Peter Lewis and the New Democratic Network, but denying direct funding by Soros himself.}}}

Why does Soros hate George Bush?

Because Bush can’t be bought.

What’s more, his “open society” doesn’t extend to himself. He unregulated “hedge funds,” open only to the super rich, are beyond public scrutiny or the interest of the press. In a curious chapter of his career, he reportedly invested in an energy company run by George W. Bush, in an unsuccessful attempt to buy influence with the Bush family.

George Soros=EVIL

He wants everybody high on democracy when he takes them down to the pits of h3ll with his legions of demoncrats.

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Dear Ms. Nunnelly,

When our Soldiers are dying by the thousands in Bush/Cheney’s illegal, immoral war, Mike Luchovich has every right to call our attention to it.

Illegal is illegal!

Immoral is immoral!

Go back and read your holy book.

By LeeAnn

April 18, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish: i read the article. I guess my comment is for all the articles like this one, there are just as many that say the exact opposite! Where do the facts lay? I suppose somewhere in the middle, which is why I consider myself a moderate. An article like the one you supplied on engenders another question from me - If it’s so great, why are we still there?!?!

And the answer to my question is, it’s not as great as some would have us to believe. and why do they want us to believe it’s so great? to back up a rush to war that NEVER should have happened.

So you see, your response and my response are quite different.

Craig: I don’t really understand the nature of YOUR question. No, they were not the only people murdered on Monday. But unless I’m out of touch with what is going on in the country, which I’m not, where else were 32 people murdered at one time? If one person was gunned down on VT, sure it would be news, but i can guarantee you we would not be blogging about it. this was a massacre. so maybe you can give me more about the point so I can respond.

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Your boogeyman is George Soros?

Ours is Karl Rove!

And, no, I won’t trade!

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

{{{By Concerned Citizen April 18, 2007 1:32 PM Could any of the pro-war bloggers here tell me: 1) What would ‘victory’ in Iraq look like?}}}

We’ve already won in Iraq, you moron, what do you think the “mission accomplished” banner was all about?

Duh.

What is happening in Iraq now is a CRIME, NO LESS THAN THE ONE COMMITTED ON THE MORNING OF 9/11/01.

For you to say any different means that you don’t think killing 3000 innocent American office workers was wrong.

Cho, or what ever the hell his name was, blamed America, “you made me do it,” just the same way that a candy as-s pinko® blames America for everything.

You and him can pis-s off for all I care.

Real Americans know that we invaded Iraq IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH EACHOTHER, democrat and Republican, and the only, ONLY right thing to do is to stop the CRIME being perpetrated against the Iraqi people.

Not to leave them to the criminals.

That is wrong, sick and stupid, which is why it’s all you filthy scumbag liberals can come up with.

FY.

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By RE

April 18, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Craig, average murder/nonnegligent manslaughter in the US is about 46/day

For comparison, Iraq has a population about 1/12th the size of the US.

so for the 178 killed in Iraq today, on a percentage basis it would be similar to 2136 people being killed in the US.

This is a pretty bad day in Iraq, so the stats would not go day to day in a similar fashion, but then no one is keeping records of Iraqi civillians killed for more accurate comparison

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Your boogeyman is George Soros?

Ours is Karl Rove!

And, no, I won’t trade!

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

SUPREME COURT: NO PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS

If this ruling saves one life then God Bless those that were in favor of it.

God Bless you Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito and Kennedy.

By Craig

April 18, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

LeeAnn-Just making the point that if you’re going to count the total number of deaths in Iraq in one day you can’t do what Luckovich and you did and compare them to one incident, no matter how horrific, and pretend that the rest of the country was crime free and quiet.

RE-I’m not going to stoop to your level of discourse so please don’t respond to my posts.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

That is great news Andy.

Now, lets stop blowing up babies.

By Truthman

April 18, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Dull - THE MISSION HAS NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED!!!

YOU CANNOT ACCOMPLISH A MISSION WHEN NO ONE ARTICULATES WHAT THE MISSION REQUIRES.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!

By Let's Face It

April 18, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

this VT incident reminds us there is a certain Andi in Marietta that merits some close surveillance…

By w00t

April 18, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull, go F yourself. You’re a two face hypocrite and liar. If you cared about life so much, then you would care for those at VT and the War in Iraq. You don’t care about anyone but yourself and you know it.

All you know how to do is parrot the talking points that you are brain washed with on a daily basis from the likes of Hannity, Limbaugh, and Savage. The president, and his minions like you are going down soon. The People of this great country and the rest of the world are tired of people LIKE YOU of telling us how we are supposed to live OUR own lives.

Get a clue, and get lost.

PS: If you were so upset at ML’s cartoon this morning then you should be upset about THIS one also!

By LeeAnn

April 18, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Well, I think we CAN compare it simply because no one is saying the rest of the U.S. was peaceful and quiet. At least, I’m not saying that. but once again, nowhere else in the US were car bombs going off and suicide bombers walking into markets and crazed gunmen stalking a college campus. There are pockets of violence within Iraq. How many dead today? 120?

By RE

April 18, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Level of discourse?

Interesting, was it the left wing FBI stats?

The proportion calculation based upon population number?

I am confused.

By Truth Master X

April 18, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

TRUTH

Real Americans know that we invaded Iraq IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH EACHOTHER, democrat and Republican,

NOT TRUTH

the smoking gun may be a mushroom cloud

TRUTH

Lied about WMD

TRUTH

Lied about yellow cake

TRUTH

Lied when they said They’ll greet us as liberators

TRUTH

Lied when they said we wouldn’t be the long

TRUTH

Lied when they said oil money would pay for war

TRUTH

We lost the war in Iraq when the nation and the world found out we did it all because of LIES

TRUTH MISLEADING RIGHT WING WACKO WHO NEEDS TO BE WATCHED

Luckodull

By Let's Face It

April 18, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

the depraved perverted lunatic writings of the VT shooter seem an awful lot like Andi’s postings….

By VICTOR PAVAMANI

April 18, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Luckovich is on the money, but only partially. In Iraq, loss of 20 to 30 lives is a daily event (150 today!), and, thanks to the White House, we will be there till we win - does that mean till the populace is wiped out?

By Craig

April 18, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

LeeAnn-My apologies if that isn’t what you were saying. Luckovich clearly is and quite sure he’s wrong.

RE-I don’t have time to post often, but I read here quite a bit. I have no desire to hold a conversation with someone like you. I’m not a big fan of name calling and half-truths and I really can’t stand someone like you that is hell bent on taking away my freedom. Your sarcastic response to my polite way of asking you not to respond to me tells all. Back to work.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Craig,

The fries are burning.

The kid had mental problems that were not addressed.

w has taken enough freedoms.

We have the right to bear arms and might need them if invaded by China or if the wingnuts get stupid.

By RE

April 18, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Name calling, well on occasion I will get worked up enough to call someone a dunce, got me there.

Half truths, don’t really know where you are going with that one either.

And I do not know you or am I interested in taking your freedoms away, whatever that may mean to you.

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS - 1:35

That is truly amazing. How long until ALL republicans “get it”?

I’m not holding my breath.

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

{{{By Truthman April 18, 2007 2:20 PM Dull - THE MISSION HAS NOT BEEN ACCOMPLISHED!!! YOU CANNOT ACCOMPLISH A MISSION WHEN NO ONE ARTICULATES WHAT THE MISSION REQUIRES.}}}

Saddam Hussein killed hundreds of thousands. His neck is now wrung. Normal people would consider this a victory.

You wanker liberals see it as a great loss.

What more can I say?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

{{{By w00t April 18, 2007 2:26 PM LuckoDull, go F yourself. You’re a two face hypocrite and liar. If you cared about life so much, then you would care for those at VT and the War in Iraq.}}}

Ooowwwhhhh, wittle woosie got her panties in a wad. Poor thing.

I care enough about the tragic loss in Virginia not to use it as some stupid political stunt, like uh, the cartoon^^.

Dumbas-s.

The only thing, and I’m talking about the ONLY thing, that Bush needs to do to win the war in Iraq is to come out saying he favors immediate troop withdrawal.

The next day the Congress would be apoplectic and in full fury about “staying the course” no matter how long it took.

You libs care nothing about the Iraq war, other than to bash Bush with it, if not, when you going to cut the funding, huh, huh?

Do you only half care?

Punk mofo.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Dusty

April 18, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Wild and crazy bloggers!!!

Blackadder @ 1:02 acts like he’s discovered the Hope diamond, i.e. the piece about Sec.Defense Robert Gates comment on a time line for departure of our troops from Iraq. GATES DID NOT ASK FOR A SCHEDULE OF DEPARTURE FROM IRAQ.

This sasme link was discussed at 9:44 by JP, @10:02 by getalife, @ 11:01 by me. It is not something just found. PLEASE READ EARLIER COMMENTS BEFORE MAKING YOUR OWN.

Walt, I was going to try and explain something to you but I will not waste time and effort. Hopeless!

Brian Curtis @12;45,

You are an American and America is waging a war against militants in Iraq. You come out against the war. Are you anti-American, treasonous, anti-military or anti-war?

If you are ONLY anti-war, why don’t you ever mention other wars, declared and undeclared, around the world? YOU are simply waging a war against President Bush no matter the cost to our country or to Iraq.

Maybe you can clear all this up and somehow make yourself into a patriot, not someone determined to undermine our country.

PS Free speech doesn’t MAKE you say what you post. It only offers the opportunity to say something. What comes out is your mind set and attitude.

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

LeeAnn - Thanks for joining in. We can always use another voice of reason.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Cindy,

One of my posts didn’t make it before I went out. I am not ignoring your question, but I’m not sure I understand it.

Abu Musab al Zarqawi was in Iraq BEFORE we invaded. He was an IslamoFascist BEFORE we invaded, despite all the ludicrous attempts to blame this sort of thing on Bush.

That link^^has a very interesting factoid in it that I did not know - that the Pentagon wanted to take out Zarqawi’s training camps before we invaded but the U.N. Security Council said no, and the administration made the misguided decision to listen to them instead of the Pentagon.

Mookie Al Sadr is a “spiritual leader” of a radical group of the Shia minority and Sadr City did not spring up overnight after we invaded.

LeeAnn,

The reason I posted that story was primarily to put a human face on our Iraqi friends, particularly after Getalife continually makes the outrageous and false claim that people like myself are “slaughtering Iraqis”.

That article makes it clear that if we leave, our brave Iraqi allies will be slaughtered because they helped the Americans.

We are dealing with an enemy who are subhuman, deranged “human hunters”. It is a difficult task that requires forbearance and will.

By Shawny

April 18, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

I suppose the Iraqi PM should implement an assault and automatic weapons ban…that should stop the violence….right?

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

HOLY CRAP!!!

LUCKODULL THE GOVERNMENT IS WATCHING YOU!!!!

Why does the Bush administration have a list of everyone who has ever used anti-depressants?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

Al-Maliki was supposed to attend the ceremony but his trip was canceled without explanation.

Mmmm, doubt he will implement anything.

By w00t

April 18, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Dull, if Bush would say that I would have a heart attack. If he said that I would back him 100% Maybe not immediately, but some plan of troop withdrawal. I do not think that congress would reverse their ideas just to hurt bush.

btw, they’re not trying to cut the funding. They’re saying we’re going to pay for this so long as you (Bush) commit to a withdrawal plan. So if you want to blame anyone from cutting the funding, blame Bush.

Take a look here

In addition, during his April 3 press conference, Bush complained that “it has now been 57 days since I requested that Congress pass emergency funds for our troops. Instead of passing clean bills that fund our troops on the front lines, the House and Senate have spent this time debating bills that undercut the troops.” In their coverage of the press conference, various media outlets reported Bush’s claim without noting that, as the weblog Think Progress has documented, in 2006, with Republicans in control of Congress, it took 119 days for Congress to pass a supplemental funding bill after Bush requested it and in 2005 (with Republicans also in control), it took 86 days to pass such a bill.

If anyone is playing games, then its Bush.

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

A “constitutional right” to drill a hole in a baby’s head, oh my:

HILLARY: ‘Erosion of our constitutional rights’…

That’s YOUR candidate, libbie.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Cindy

April 18, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer, I was referring to the human hunters. This disasterously planned invasion has opened the doors for all kinds of hateful, murdering groups to develop, expand and run wild and rampant in Iraq. The deaths today involve so many more women and children. Yes, I know under Hussein thousands of innocents died too, but the US was not responsible.

Yes, the potential probably already existed, but it was diverted and contained. Anybody who believes that Iraq contained more threat than Saudi Arabia didn’t pay attention to 9/11.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

I know Andy,

You would prefer to bomb their brains out.

The Senate Armed Services Committee heard testimony Tuesday that increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps may not resolve severe and growing personnel problems. There was even talk of returning to the draft to fill the ranks.

D’oh!

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Idiot Woot,

A “withdrawal plan” is nothing but a “surrender plan” and tens of thousands of Iraqis will be slaughtered if that bill is not vetoed.

May I add that it is also a congressional abuse of power as it interferes with the executive branches constitutional authority as Commander in Chief.

You can either cut the funding completely and force our withdrawal, or fund the war under the terms the President sets out.

You cannot have it both ways.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

A brutal truth: Massacre is just part of everyday life in America

Yep, see it everyday.

I guess you could argue that it is our culture now.

Family values, if you will.

Geez.

By Chevy Terrell

April 18, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

The April 18th cartoon would also work with “LUCKOVICH” substituted for “VA TECH” given a similar disregard for humanity.

By Jim Fleming

April 18, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

It continually amazes me as to the absolute unbridled insanity that passes for the American media these days. Does your hatred know no bounds?? To tie the tragedy at Virginia Tech to the war in Iraq simply because you libs cant seem to let go of your eternal hatred of Bush, to me is the ultimate example of cowardice and one more reason why one day this country will not fall because of some foreign power, but because of the enemy within our own borders. I mean,good lord,Bush will be gone in 2008 and then you can usher in your politically correct socialist utopia!!! Until then,try reporting something objectively(now.there’s an idea) and stop being a buch of 5 year olds whining because youre not getting your way.

By Truthsayer

April 18, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

You eco-terrorists out there who are wanting us to convert without looking at the consequences need to read the following:

Ethanol would raise ozone levels, particularly in certain regions of the country, including the Northeast and Los Angeles.

“It’s not green in terms of air pollution,” said study author Mark Jacobson, a Stanford University civil and environmental engineering professor. “If you want to use ethanol, fine, but don’t do it based on health grounds. It’s no better than gasoline, apparently slightly worse.”

The source is AP

By getalife

April 18, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Chevy?

I don’t get it.

Do tell.

By LIES AND THE LYING LYERS

April 18, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

REALLY REALLY BIG LIE

A “withdrawal plan” is nothing but a “surrender plan”

IF YOU DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SURRENDER AND WITHDRAWAL YOU MUST BE ONE DENSE HARLEQUIN HEROINE

REALLY REALLY REALLY BIG LIE

is also a congressional abuse of power

IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE WAR POWERS ACT AND CHECKS AND BALANCES YOU ARE P!SS POOR PATRIOT

WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU NUMBNUTZ TO ADMIT YOU F”D UP!!!!!

IT TAKES CHARACTER TO ADMIT ERROR AND TO MAKE AMENDS

THE LAST OF THE NEO CONS HAVE NO CHARACTER

By Jim Fleming

April 18, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

It continually amazes me as to the absolute unbridled insanity that passes for the American media these days. Does your hatred know no bounds?? To tie the tragedy at Virginia Tech to the war in Iraq simply because you libs cant seem to let go of your eternal hatred of Bush, to me is the ultimate example of cowardice and one more reason why one day this country will not fall because of some foreign power, but because of the enemy within our own borders. I mean,good lord,Bush will be gone in 2008 and then you can usher in your politically correct socialist utopia!!! Until then,try reporting something objectively(now.there’s an idea) and stop being a buch of 5 year olds whining because youre not getting your way.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Bush vs. War Powers Act: Congress has the authority to end Iraq war

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

“…tens of thousands of Iraqis will be slaughtered if that bill is not vetoed.” -BD

I guess you missed the reports saying we’re already responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis since we invaded.

Tens of thousands will be slaughtered regardless. The difference is our troops won’t be among them.

Face it. Bush screwed up and killing more Americans won’t make it go away.

By Truthsayer

April 18, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

Cindy - these people were doing the BEFORE we went into Iraq or Afghanistan. As I recall, 9/11 happened before we sent troops even to Afghanistan. To state that these people are expanding because of Iraq is nuts. France is having HUGE problems with fundamentalist Islamists even though they (characteristically) have been bending over backwards to appease them. The same goes for the Spanish and the Italians. Russia also has its own home grown Islamofascist nuts.

Blaming our invasion of Iraq on the expansion of Islamic radicalism is like blaming Nazism on our involvement in World War II, even though Hitler declared war on us and Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Your logic is a non-sequitor.

Also Cindy, I think that it is disingenuous to state that you are a moderate. You are a liberal. It is quite amusing to me when people who are fervent Obama or Hitlery supporters will claim to be “moderate”. That is like Buddha claiming to be an omnivore because he once swallowed a fly!

By getalife

April 18, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Jim,

178 slauhtered in Iraq today.

Good enough for you?

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Conservatives Take Aim At Bush-Backed Gun Law

By RE

April 18, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Partial birth ban:

I did a crazy thing and actually read the act and supreme court decision. The way it is worded is pretty meaningless. the only thing it changes is that the fetus would have to be killed inside the womb instead of being partially delivered, it does not even prohibit partial D+E procedures, where parts of the fetus are removed first, only if the fetus is delivered whole.

Also, it is only in effect if the doctor intentionally induces delivery. It does not apply if the fetus is dead inside the womb either, meaning, and this is referenced in the court decision, a lethal injection could be given to the fetus prior to performing a D+E, and there would be no legal consequence.

Looking at this act and the decision, it will not stop any abortion from occuring, the doctors will only slightly modify the way they perform the procedure.

However, it is the first time the court has ruled on a method. This entire case was a trial balloon. Now the supreme court has shown it has standing to rule upon medical procedures.

Hardly a strict constructionist view of the constitution, but again, this is just a trial for more laws I am sure are already drafted for a host of other types of abortion procedures.

By Concerned Citizen

April 18, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Luck-o-Doll,

Your response merely underscores the problem. Our men and women in uniform didn’t sign up to protect Iraqi’s from “crime.” They signed up to protect the United States of America. If you care so much about Iraqi’s, emigrate there and join the Iraqi Army. Besides, according to you, 2/3rds of American’s are commie pinkos so you don’t belong here anymore.

Please go be with the ones you care about. And FY 2!

By w00t

April 18, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Jim, you’re party is just as guilty for politicizing the tragedy at VT.

Hello…..? Pot, this is Kettle, have we met?

No, you know what’s going to kill this country? People like you, people that don’t ask questions and let their government get away with anything they want. The country is in the shape that it’s in because we have been told to “trust the government, and because no one had the courage to stand up them and ASK THE QUESTION WHY! This Government is bankrupting this county, and yet you call them “conservative. This government constantly lies to its people. This government has no problems with bowing down to big business while our jobs go overseas, prices go up and salaries go down. This Government further breads hatred in other countries. I’m sorry, but that’s NOT what this country should be about. Instead of spending more than HALF of the discretionary budget on the military, why not invest some of that money back into the PEOPLE of this country, the people who make the economy and this country run. WE should be for the BETTERMENT of the People of the US, not the rest of the world. It is not the job of the US to support GLOBAL WELLFARE!

Go back to staring at that Bush poster above your bed.

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

…and in the words of the immortal Francois de la Brioskee, “EVERYBODY BOPS”

I’m out.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

ITS BEEN A FEW DAYS SINCE WE GOT A FRESH ONE>>>>

Like Halliburton, Bush Administration gave pass to student lender ‘friends,’ says top Democrat

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

LIES AND LYING LYERS (sic),

The President has inherent powers as Commander-in-Chief to respond to acts of war perpetrated against the United States. Once Congress granted war power to defend the United States and enforce UN resolutions in the AUMF in October 2002, the President was authorized to use force as seems in his best discretion to achieve the results of the AUMF. There is no statutory, Constitutional or traditional basis that requires Congressional oversight of the Commander-in-Chief’s authority to conduct war.//The president, as Commander-in-Chief, is the sole arbiter of what is “appropriate” and “necessary,” once a war begins.///Once Congress granted the President the authority to use military force as it did in the AUMF, Congress may not micro-manage the affairs of the conduct of that war. The only method that Congress may lawfully employ is the revocation of the grant of its original authority. As of April of 2007, Congress has not rescinded this authority that was granted to the President.

Congress must either rescind authority and bring the troops home immediately, or while we remain in Iraq, defer to the direction of the Commander in Chief.

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

THIS”LL MAKE THE CHICKENHAWKS QUAKE IN THEIR ITTY BITTY SHOES

“If the United States is going to have a significant component of its ground forces in Iraq over the next five, 10, 15 or 30 years, then the responsible course is for the president and those supporting this open-ended and escalated presence in Iraq to call for reinstating the draft.”

By Blackadder

April 18, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Sorry, one more thought before I go.

Normal life came to a screeching halt today in America as news of an awful mass murder spread across the nation. Politicians canceled rallies, Congress delayed impeachment proceedings and office workers stopped their usual banal chit-chat about TV shows or whatever for impassioned if still ill-informed discussions of gun control, violence and the dangers of creative-writing programs.

Just kidding! This massacre happened in Iraq, which we totally ignore even though it’s all our fault.

A series of coordinated bombings in central Baghdad included one particularly deadly blast that immediately killed 115 people — mostly moms and kids shopping for food. Also killed by that bomb were the construction workers rebuilding part of the al-Sadriyah market that was destroyed by another bomb two months ago. It’s the single bloodiest day since the magical American Surge “secured Baghdad.”

How’s that surge workin’ for ya Dubya?

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

RE,

I have not had time to read the decision, but I did just read your comments on the partial birth abortion ruling by the Supreme Court.

I can’t wait for Hillary and Obama to run on the platform of giving lethal injections to viable babies, err, fetuses to get around those pesky problems that piercing brains with scissors and sucking them out present.

They’ll also have to explain how this could be “medically necessary” to protect the life and health of the mother, who presumably will now have to go into labor to deliver the dead baby who will no longer be “partially delivered”.

By Dusty

April 18, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

getalife @ 3:25

“Massacre is just part of everyday life in America.”

No, getalife, maybe in Louisiana where you are but not every day in good ole USA. That is why we are shocked and saddened.

It takes a lot of USA money just to keep you guys going. So quit smoking that stuff you grow in the swamps. Makes you a bit balmy..

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

OOH, PRIVATIZATION! The Coast Guard has lost eight patrol boats. Eight expensive patrol boats.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Luckodull 3:14

I’m not sure her playing further left will help her win the nomination - seems as if all the Democratic candidates are doing it. I’d imagine from your viewpoint she’d be a great candidate - Gallup’s latest poll shows where with a 45% unfavorable rating - about her lowest ever.

This is kinda fun - (I just had a project roll in so I’ll leave it to anyone else) - she’s below half (even without a war) - anyone care to scarf up some of the comments about Pres Bush when he dropped to 45% approval and subtitute “Hillary” for Pres Bush?

In the news, 3:34

Nice argument, there. But immaterial. Democrats just won’t do it. They seem to see continuation of the war as good for the ‘08 elections.

Hey getalife, what do you think? Start a war for oil, keep it going for votes? :)

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

{{{This massacre happened in Iraq, which we totally ignore even though it’s all our fault.}}}

Abu Musab al Blackadder,

Your Islamist friends salute you.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

RE 3:42

Thank you. It’s something when one reads a good analyis here before hearing it on the evening shows. Care to bet if those points are much acknowledged on the Left? Or not criticized on the Right? I’ll take the bet if I get to choose “nah.”

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Playing to the Left may very well secure her nomination since that is where all the money and empty barrels are.

What I don’t understand from your perspective is how Obama’s policies would be any different from Hillary, and how you can possibly support him.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I for one just criticized it and I am “on the right”. See my 4:02

By N-GA

April 18, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Bi-Danish,

I don’t have to lift a finger to make you look foolish…you do such a good job of making yourself look foolish and proving to everyone how really stupid you are.

My post yesterday was in response to a post from Paul. I intentionally left out the country in which I had lived. Paul knew immediately that I had to be talking about Turkey. Since Turkey is secular, there is no Sharia law.

But since you avoid facts and prefer to jump to conclusions (name-calling and all), your chest-thumping idiocy is all the more pathetic.

LMAO @ you, once again……

By Dept of Homeland Security

April 18, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Here at the department we realize that we have been lax at monitoring public blog forums such as this one for dangerous individuals and people capable of the kind of mayhem such as that we witnessed this week in Blacksburg, VA. Management here is putting a new special emphasis on monitoring suspicious postings and the people who make them.

Suffice to say - you know how insane you are, and we do too.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Well Crusty,

Remember when Powell said if you break it you own?

w broke it so we own it.

See, the tragic slaughter every single day belongs to us.

We should be ashamed of this slaughter.

By RE

April 18, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Expect a shouting match based upon the general principals of “sanctity of life” vs. “womans right to choose”

Expect nothing on how hollow and weak the law actually is or on the supreme court granting itself standing to define the moralist of medical procedure. Wow, that kinda sounds like an activist court, doesn’t it? No no, none of that discussion, can’t let facts get in the way of preceived dogma.

By RE

April 18, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Morality, not moralist

By Walt

April 18, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

“By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Idiot Woot,

A “withdrawal plan” is nothing but a “surrender plan” and tens of thousands of Iraqis will be slaughtered if that bill is not vetoed.

May I add that it is also a congressional abuse of power as it interferes with the executive branches constitutional authority as Commander in Chief.”

Well.

Congress can just make a new president.

The Framers wanted the Houise of Representatives to be the most powerful organ of the federal government. That is why revenue bills must be started in the House and why the House can impeach the president.

The House is closest to the people by the fact that it is elected every two years.

Bush has been crapping on what the Framers wanted since he took office, and now their genius may yet shine through again.

Articles of Impeachment against Cheney will be filed next week,by the way.

Walt

By Dept of Homeland Security

April 18, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Here at the department we realize that we have been lax at monitoring public blog forums such as this one for dangerous individuals and people capable of the kind of mayhem such as that we witnessed this week in Blacksburg, VA. Management here is putting a new special emphasis on monitoring suspicious postings and the people who make them.

Suffice to say - you know how insane you are, and we do too.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Interesting you’d criticize the decision, as it does away with what many see as a particularly distasteful procedure. Abortion (like guns) is a fact of life and will not be eliminated. It, too, is a matter of “how regulated.” The negative response seemed to me more “sound bite same as before general objections.” Your comments seemed to me to be more along the lines of how the Democratic candidates are stepping into a minefield if they decide to discuss, in detail, alternate procedures.

Regarding Obama: I view Hillary as calculating, shifting and entirely political. Obama strikes me, while decidedly quite liberal, at least thoughtful, with positions that seem to come from within, rather that from the latest position paper or poll. I like his call for civility in political discourse. I like how he explores ideas. I like it when he says he thinks Pres Bush is an honorable man, who believes what he’s doing is in the best interests of the country, but he disagrees strongly. He just strikes me as a decidedly decent sort, with principles.

So I find him more interesting and thought-provoking than the other Democratic candidates. Doesn’t mean I don’t think some of his ideas are way too far Left and that I’d want to vote for him, but let’s just see who he’d be up against. Edwards may well be a surprise - and if nominated, we may see the same “good for the primaries, bad for the general election” Democratic debacle we’ve seen in the past. At least ignoring the nonsensical personal life story stuff in selecting a candidate, Republicans may not make the same mistake.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

RE 4:15

Activist Court = disagree with my positions.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

So, as far as the toon, VT was tragic. The kid was in a mental facility so we may want to do background checks for this.

Lets take a look at Iraq shall we?:

“Four large bombs exploded across Baghdad today, killing at least 157 people and wounding scores as violence climbed toward levels not seen since before the U.S.-Iraqi campaign to pacify the capital began two months ago.

In the deadliest of the attacks, a parked car bomb detonated in a crowd of workers at the Sadriyah market in central Baghdad, killing at least 112 people and wounding 94, said Raad Muhsin, an official at Al-Kindi Hospital where the victims were taken.”

The comparison of tragedies is leaning toward Iraq as being a larger tragedy don’t ya think?

We broke it, we own it so Mike’s toon is spot on as usual.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

getalife

Who was the Senator who said to the Democrats “you fund it, you bought it?”

Before you take that too seriously, it would have been an entirely different situation if members of Congress who are fond of quoting Gen Powell realized the phrase applies to them, as well as to the Bush administration. When they voted for authorization, they, too, “bought it.”

By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

OH BOY!

Roll Call: FBI raids Rep. Doolittle’s (R-CA) home in Northern Va. More soon.

KEEP WATCHING AT TPM

By RE

April 18, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

yet another GOP congressman in trouble

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

{{{By Citizen Wanker April 18, 2007 3:43 PM Luck-o-Doll, Your response merely underscores the problem. Our men and women in uniform didn’t sign up to protect Iraqi’s from “crime.” They signed up to protect the United States of America.}}}

The terrorists, the cut throats, the same exact killers that tore a hole in Manhattan are contesting the United States for Iraq by killing innocent civilians.

They do not hate these people they kill, they simply see them as props in their larger war against Bush, using them to attack the president in service of the left wing in America. They know that they candy as-s liberals will do the rest, surrender America, for them.

If you don’t believe me, look at how they get the spineless pieces of sh-it in America to act:

{{{By getalife April 18, 2007 4:33 PM | Lets take a look at Iraq shall we?:}}}

This garbage is no different then Bin Laden talking sh-it on Air America.

You scumbags and Al Qaeda fight the same fight.

“Congratulations” on a good day, mofo.

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By IN THE NEWS

April 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Breaking: FBI Raids Rep. Doolittle’s Home

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

The decision from the Supreme Court

The Supreme Court held that the law was Constitutional, they in no way shape manner or form started writing law as was done in Roe v. Wade. It’s really hard to believe someone could read that decision and come away thinking the Supreme Court was setting up a medical practice, but you can always count on RE.

RE,

Are you dumb enough to be saying that if a case involves a medical procedure the Supreme Court has no standing? Unbelievable.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Doolittle fits.

If the Dept. of Justice do there jobs, there will be many, many more.

Another great reason to get rid of that political activist ganzo.

By Dusty

April 18, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Well nutsy mutsy getalife (I can call “names” too).

That was the Pottery Barn that said “If you break it, you own it.”

Powell said,”When the going gets tough, get going.” He seems to be gone.

Since you are so ashamed of the “slaughter”, why don’t you apologize to the terrorists who are doing it? If you tell them in person they will remove your “shame” very quickly.

By RE

April 18, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

OK RW, a few things first.

I think abortion should be legal.

and I also think that the congress and the supreme court have no standing constitutionally to regulate abortion except in the case where someone travels across state lines for an abortion. (I am an originalist that way)

So I do think Roe was an improper decision, but it was made and is now precedent. If someone wants abortion to be made illegal nationwide or return the right to decide to the states, then challenge Roe.

So no, I do not believe the supreme court has standing to decide the legality of a medical procedure.

Unless of course the clinic lies on a state line, aside from that, they do not have standing.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Sure you can call names crusty,

Unpatriotic blah, blah, blah.

Powell was the only one trying to warn w about Iraq.

Dear world,

I apologize for the slaughter in Iraq and am ashamed of my government.

There ya go crusty.

By CHICKENHAWK ALERT

April 18, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

””“”Since you are so ashamed of the “slaughter”, why don’t you apologize to the terrorists who are doing it? If you tell them in person they will remove your “shame” very quickly.”“”“

If you are proud of the slaughter why haven’t you enlisted.

If you shoot them in person you’ll probably have that orgasm youve been faking all along.

By Kenny Higginbotham

April 18, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Just so you know, I will NEVER again buy an AJC as long as you are on it. There is a reason the AJC is losing membership and you are it. Today you just lost them another reader.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

RE,

The Supreme Court decided that the law that was written by elected legislators was Constitutional. That’s ALL they did. It was elected legislators that decided on the legality of the procedure.

Now we may have a point of agreement here that the Supreme Court should say that all abortion law you should be made at the State level, but for them to do that they would have to unilaterally strike down Roe. You can’t uphold that as precedent and say they can’t get involved any further. If they had never come to that loopy decision we wouldn’t have these constant court challenges. It was the Burger Court that was activist in this whole mess.

By moonbat betty

April 18, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

did anyone hear about Rep. Doolittle?

By CharlieP

April 18, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Mike,

Using the tragedy at Va. Tech as a way to express a political view was disgusting yesterday, and absolutely unbelieveable today. Unbelievable. This must be some kind of mental illness. After 29 years as an AJC subscriber, I will no longer contribute to this despicable behavior.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Moonbat betty

Personally, I think Ms. Doolittle on American Idol is a whole lot more talented in her respective field.

By Emperor Commodus

April 18, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

AM I NOT MERCIFUL??!!!!!

By Walt

April 18, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

“Powell was the only one trying to warn w about Iraq.”

Powell might have been the only one in the adminstration but there were many warnings, including a Wash Post article by Jim Webb in Sept 2002, that just about perfectly nailed the current situation.

“Scowcroft, national security advisor to the first president Bush, staked out the realist position on CBS’s “Face The Nation”, where he warned that a U.S. invasion of Iraq “could turn the whole region into a cauldron, and thus destroy the war on terrorism.” A few days later he made a more comprehensive statement on the editorial page of the “Wall Street Journal” — a significant location because the “Journal“‘s conservative editorial page sometimes can act like an internal bulletin board for Republican policy making. Scowcroft’s article appeared in the newspaper’s edition of August 15, 2002, under the headline DON’T ATTACK SADDAM”.”

“Fiasco” p.47 by Thomas Ricks

and

“The official Bush Administration line later would become that no one really foresaw the the difficulties of postwar Iraq. But [Congressman] Skelton certainly was pointing out the direction, as were a host of experts on the Mideast and some strategic thinkers inside the Army. “I have no doubt that our military would decisively defeat Iraq’s forces and remove Saddam,” Skelton stated in his letter. “But like the proverbial dog chasing the car down the road, we must consider what we would do after we caught it.”

He especially worried, he told Bush, about the “extreme difficulty of occupying Iraq with its history of autocratic rule, its balkanized ethnic tensions, and its isolated economic system.”

Ibid p. 59

But like I said the other day if you are:

Israel

Halliburton

or

Karl Rove,

Things are going great.

Walt

By getalife

April 18, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Mmm, these comments all look the same.

I will not buy blah, blah, blah.

By RE

April 18, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

That is the problem RW, roe was a court case brought to the Supreme court and decided the constitutionality of state laws. That was an overreach on part of the supreme court. Congress when passing the partial birth abortion ban also overstepped it’s bounds and the ruling (in my opinion) should have been found unconstitutional based upon congressional authority. But in accepting the case and ruling it be upheld, the supreme court has expanded it’s powers.

Initial roe decision—- overstep of authority

Congress passing PBAB—- overstep of authority

Supreme court upholding law—- Overstep of authority

By Cindy

April 18, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer,

I don’t recall saying I was a moderate, but my views don’t always line up with the far left. I have declared myself a liberal since 2003.
WWII was a totally different ball of wax, so don’t even bring that in; the Viet Cong are a closer analogy, but still off. We have unleashed a killing force in Iraq. Yes, they existed in almost every country, but were better contained in Iraq. But for people like you it doesn’t matter the average Iraqi civilian is taking the beating most of all. The entire philosophy was to reach out and destroy these terrorist cells, not destroy every country that contained them. Do you think we should invade France next?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Walt,

This is another great book on the Iraq disaster

By Concerned Citizen

April 18, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

You are such a moron Luck-o-Doll. The vast majority of killings in Iraq are the result of sectarian violence. While a small number of foriegn fighters have used violence to foment more violence, we are merely acting as policemen in an internal struggle for the future of Iraq. That battle will continue with or without our presence. So you can support Americans dying in the streets of Baghdad trying to stop the Shia from killing the Sunni, the vast majority of Americans (66%) don’t.

The blood letting will happen. The fight for Iraq can be post-poned but it will not be cancelled. The only question is how much blood and money are we willing to spend delaying the inevitable.

Whenever that inevitable event happens, the American people will know who to blame. You, Bush, Cheney, the rest of the neo-con criminals, Fox News, and all of the Repug apologists that drug us into this catastrophe with their lies and deceit.

By Walt and getalife

April 18, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Secret lovers, that’s what we are. Try to find a place to screw but its so hard. Both of us belong to someone else, but we can’t let go,so follow us to the nearst hotel to see a weird sex show.

By Walt

April 18, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

“Cobra II” is another book that shows the criminal incompetence of the Bush people.

The Army chose that name to commemorate the US breakout into France proper from Normandy in 1944.

They drove the Germans before them in defeat and disarray.

Of course we had a Democratic president then.

Walt

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I was in a rush running out the door and I did not make myself clear - I was referring to RE’s interpretation of the Supreme’s decision where he seemed to be delighted that the late-term abortions could continue on, and that all the abortionists had to do was use a different technique.

I have still not had a chance to read the decision itself.

Thanks for the clarification on Obama…

By Paul

April 18, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

You’re welcome. It’s nice to have a discussion where someone asks “can you provide reasons for that - it seems inconsistent with your earlier comments” rather than “you !@@##! traitorious lowlife@@!##!”

I’m beginning to think you read Obama’s book, too! :)

Or at least the George Will column I referenced this morning -

Obama and Will - who’da thunk?

By Power of Light

April 18, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Paul is correct concerning Obama. The Light went to his rally saturday and was astonished by the turnout-AJC reports 20,000. My support for the war has waned some in recent days and I have at least opened my self up to hearing alternative solutions. The best word I can use to describe Obama is sincerity, whether I agree with him or not.

By Ralph

April 18, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

The weak, cowardly little SOB actually did it. Brought hundreds of Fed agents plus hundreds of local cops into Blacksburg, disrupting all of their work, so that the alcoholic imbecile could have a photo op with his squaw. A drunken mass murderer speaking about God and prayer. As usual. Great Repug. No one in that family has ever possessed an ounce of sense or class. Bushie should be deeply imprisoned or….

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Great. Now the freaking server lost my response to N-GA, which began with the question:

Now that the AJC has won a couple of Pulitzers is there a chance they could splurge for a new server?

Paul,

Here is my original post on the Supreme’s decision.

{{{By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 11:18 AM |

On another topic, may I take this opportunity to thank George Bush for appointing great jurists to the Supreme Court who have ruled that States can outlaw the practice of partial birth abortion. I extend my praise to all the jurists who voted with the majority:

Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Kennedy.}}}

N-GA,

I said that you LEFT THE IMPRESSION that you were in favor of the harsh punishments meted out by Sharia Law.

Why this game playing where you can’t just come right out and say you are referring to Turkey? Trying to give the impression that you are an international man of mystery?

How’s that secularism going in Turkey, btw? I understand that a couple of Bible publishers had their throats slashed today, and that the elections are not looking peachy keen for secularism.

Moreover, attempts have been made to implement Sharia Law in the Muslim community in Britain and Canada, so being a “secular state” doesn’t mean too much if you’re a determined Islamist.

By Sailor

April 18, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

the sailor said Andi, you’re a fine girl…

Hey curly girl. How those knees holding out?

By Dusty

April 18, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Nutsy,mutsy getalife and CHICKENHAWK ALERT,

Are you two twins? What tired old insult material. You ARE unpatriotic. NOT to mention ignorant.

The CIA,the British and a few men flying planes into our skyscapers warned us about terrorism more than Powell did.

I am not ashamed of our fight against those who would kill us or the Iraqis.

But I am ashamed of those who are so spineless they would turn against their own country because they are afraid. Afraid to fight for your own country!! Afraid to support the troops that fight for us!! Probably afraid of the dark!!

Our troops are not afraid and I am proud of them. I will never undermine their efforts by giving support to our enemies. They are fighting a war for our protection in the long run. I thank them for their sacrifices.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

RE,

You can’t make a case for either the partial birth abortion ban or the upholding of the law as Constitutional being an overreach of authority because of Roe, which was an overreach of authority.

I would like to have seen the Supreme Court strike down the partial birth abortion ban, but reject the arguments of the 8th and 9th circuits as well. I think they should have said that in researching this it seemed that the Federal government had no jurisdiction and that the confusion was caused by the Roe V. Wade decision of the Burger Court so they were holding the partial birth abortion as unconstitutional based on lack of jurisdiction and vacate Roe at the same time for the same reason.

Then you’re back to States and presto!! no more overreaching by the Feds or SCOTUS.

By Power of Light

April 18, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

The AJC’s server is straight from the pit of hell!!

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

{{{By Concerned Citizen April 18, 2007 5:19 PM You are such a moron Luck-o-Doll. The vast majority of killings in Iraq are the result of sectarian violence. While a small number of foriegn fighters have used violence to foment more violence, we are merely acting as policemen in an internal struggle for the future of Iraq.}}}

Bullsh-it.

Every faction in Iraq fighting against America does so because they want to establish a religious sharia state, the Shia, Al Qaeda and the American Pinko Brigade, all share the same common goal.

How many suicide bombers has the democrat party produced?

Y’all are rabid fanaticals, don’t get me wrong, you see dead American college kids as so much cannon fodder to launch at Bush, you’d abandon the Iraqis to their slave masters in a heart beat, but none of you scumbags have ever blowed yourself up for Dean and party.

Why is that?

Cause you aren’t Islamic loonies all juiced up by their Imans, maybe?

If Iraq didn’t have brainwashed punks, they wouldn’t have sh-it.

This is not a civil war.

Even saying that shows what an immature little wanker you are, stupid repulsive clod, non human.

Idiot.

Where are these great Sunni armies at?

Hahahaha, moron indeed.

{{{You, Bush, Cheney, the rest of the neo-con criminals, Fox News, and all of the Repug apologists that drug us into this catastrophe with their lies and deceit.}}}

Notice how this punk as-s doesn’t tag Hillary or Kerry or Kennedy or any of the other filth that voted for the war before they cut and run from it?

Cowards.

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By Power of Light

April 18, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

MSNBC reporting two people shot at the University of Minnesota!!

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Paul and Doom,

Sincerity is fine you need a heck of a lot more than sincerity to run a country.

Obama is as far to the Left as one can be and still have a serious attempt to win the White House.

He will “sincerely” raise our taxes, endorse Universal Health Care, cut and run from Iraq ad nauseum.

I was not very impressed with his “sincere” concurrence that Imus should have been fired and now this nauseating nod to political-correctness:

“There’s also another kind of violence that we’re going to have to think about. It’s not necessarily the physical violence, but the violence that we perpetrate on each other in other ways,” he said, and goes on to catalogue other forms of “violence.”>>>>There’s the “verbal violence” of Imus.<<<<

Spare me.

Can I add that I also find his position on partial birth abortion to be “sincere”, but deplorable?

By RE

April 18, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

RW Damn, and believe it or not, I agree with you.

But it happens in fits and starts. A slow progression of increased power and authority into matters in which the federal government should not have standing.

” the path to hell is paved with good intentions”

Well, not exactly the path to hell, but surely an overeaching government

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

RE,

Good! Tomorrow we can work on dismantling the Department of Education and get the Federal government out of the business of dumbing down our kids.

Paul,

I would caution you to read transcripts of what Obama says before deciding what he said was good and/or sincere. I think we went down that road once before and Billy Jeff isn’t nearly as far left as Barry.

By @@

April 18, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Yaaaayyyyyyyy for the Supreme Court.

I’ll be needing a tissue.

I’m so proud of people like Andy, Buy Danish, R.W.

You can make a difference, one child at a time.

By RE

April 18, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

I see your Department of Education (we only need at most a guideline paper) and raise you the DEA.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

I agree too with RW.

Shocking, but I told wingnut wooten the same thing.

If you think our government will fix anything unless there is a profit, fahgetaboudit.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

RE,

I see your DEA and raise you the government version of the NEA.

By Was Andi Raped?

April 18, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

The VT shooter makes one wonder - was Andi arse-raped?

No.

You cannot rape the willing.

By LuckoDull

April 18, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

2 weeks later:

{{{Dear Mr. LuckoDull:

Thank you for contacting me regarding Speaker Pelosi’s recent official visit overseas. I am glad to hear your thoughts on the issue, and I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

I firmly believe that matters of foreign policy are the principal responsibility of the executive branch. While I respect Speaker Pelosi’s position of power in the House of Representatives, I feel that her recent overseas visit exhibited a lack of respect for the authority of the executive branch in matters relating to foreign policy . Additionally when traveling abroad on official or unofficial visits, the legislative branch should be governed by these foreign policies implemented by the executive branch. Finally, it is very problematic for Speaker Pelosi to visit a country that is a state sponsor of terrorism at a time when the United States is fighting a war on terror.

Thank you again for contacting me, and I hope you will not hesitate to call on me in the future if I can be of assistance to you.

Sincerely, Johnny Isakson United States Senator}}}

Coward.

Mofo’s scared of Blinky.

I knew I shouldn’t have voted for your as-s.

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By RE

April 18, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

ok, i see your NEA (national endowment for arts, I am assuming) and raise you the OFBCI, office of faith based and community intiatives.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

We would have been far better off with Herman Cain holding that seat.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

@@,

You can thank me for voting for Bush but that’s about all I can take credit for when it comes to Supreme Court decisions.

By Clyde

April 18, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

You got that perfectly correct, Ralph. Have you seen today’s results of the actions of our mighty Army in Baghdad? More than 200 killed. Our CO, the good Admiral, finally admits “The US is losing ground every day in Iraq.” (sic). Could it be that Bush and the Repscum are slowly running out of those who will lie for them?

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

RE,

OK I’ll see your OFBCI, although that’s a very tiny bet. I’m going all in on this hand and repealing the sixteenth amendment and disbanding the IRS then implementing the Fair Tax.

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Yikes! Has anybody seen some of this stuff Cho sent to NBC? He’s posing just like the Islamofacist head choppers and the Pali suicide bombers. I bet if he turns out to have converted to Islam he will suddenly be a poor misunderstood youth.

Did anybody figure out what Ismail Ax might have meant?

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Fred Barnes just said something to the effect that Virginia law precludes colleges from expelling students based on mental illness or suicidal tendencies.

Liberalism fails again.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

RW 6:12

Point taken. By “sincere” I mean “believes what he says.” Not “playing to a crown” or “aligning with the latest polling data” or “the base needs to hear this.” Sincere does not mean I think it’s a good position, or a doable one. His position on opposing the Military Tribunals Act for terrorists on grounds of habeas corpus “rights” makes me shudder - given his law background, it’s understandable, I’m sure he’s sincere, but I shudder nonetheless.

That’s pretty near a dealbreaker for me. I really dislike reducing anything to a single issue, but in this case the President has a strong influence - and I do not think terrorists should be processed in the same manner as citizens or uniformed military of sovereign nations.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Clyde who is also Ralph,

Are you enjoying your conversation with yourself?

You are the sort of person who needs to be looked after by mental health professionals, and I just betcha you’re a college student too.

How do you feel about Christians and “rich kids”?

By getalife

April 18, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Actually RW,

He sounds like Andy:

“(AJC- It is your responsibility to ensure the mental health of employees working under your guidance and direction. Obviously and undeniably, the stress of BDS and the constant attacks on the United States of America have caused your editorial cartoonist to become a bitter, deranged psychotic with only one thought on his mind. I personally hold YOU responsible for any damages that may arise from his mental instability.)”

Geez.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

RW,

“Ismael Acts” is a theory which surprisingly has something to do with Islam./sarc.

By Bill

April 18, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

LuckoStoop: What a tragic way to grovel thru life ad you do. 24/7 looking for something/someone that you hate and despise more than you hate and despise your ugly, pitiful self. A complete and total fool, like BD, both of you gutter filth unable to speak without potty talk. Well, at least you are perfect specimens and examples of today’s Repub Party.

By RE

April 18, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Hmmmm,

See now the OFCBI is small to match the NEA.

Repealing an ammendment is a whole different level. and I still think the fair tax is fundementally flawed, imagine the size of the orginization required to send every person a check each month…

Would you go in for a full scrapping of current IRS law, including payroll taxes and deductions, for a set Flat tax?

<- for clarification, my flat tax would be a set rate, no SS, Fico…etc. No deduction for anything including kids and homes. All income considered equal regardless of source, 1099, w-2, dividend, interest. Personal exemption on first 15k per person, 30k per couple. Tax rate would be about 18-20%->

By Bill

April 18, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

LuckoStoop: What a tragic way to grovel thru life as you do. 24/7 looking for something/someone that you hate and despise more than you hate and despise your ugly, pitiful self. A complete and total fool, like BD, both of you gutter filth unable to speak without potty talk. Well, at least you are perfect specimens and examples of today’s Repub Party.

By Paul

April 18, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

RE-RW-getalife - now there’s a grand political alliance!

Keep up the bureaucracy cuts - that’ll provide all that’s needed for pay as you go - no tax increases, heck, maybe even more cuts.

Keep going -

Buy Danish - I heard a VT staff on the radio - don’t know her position - when asked why they hadn’t contacted the guy’s parents, she said university policy prohibited them from doing so unless the student granted permission. Theory runs smack into reality (again) with tragic results.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

RW,

Update: Surprise!

Ismail is the Arabic form of Ishmael

By N-GA

April 18, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You say that terrorists should not be processed in the same manner as citizens (they could be a ciitizen like Tomothy McVay) or uniformed (soldiers).

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? By denying them rights, you presume guilt and may prevent them from proving their innocence (by not giving them access to intelligence sources, for example).

Who was that idiot, Chalabi(?). If he was the “intelligence” source, then he would be suspect when giving evidence. Be careful what you wish for……

By lorraine

April 18, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Thanks Mike. And I see you added the much needed and necessary geography lesson so as not to puzzle and confuse people.

By getalife

April 18, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

From what I could understand, he was a wingnut talking about Jesus.

Figures.

By Buy Danish

April 18, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

That makes sense since (thanks again to Liberals) you can’t even see your child’s grades without their permission.

Have fun dealing with N-GA’s stunningly stupid question about presumptions of innocence for enemy combatants/terrorists.

Bill,

How are you enjoying your imaginary threesome with Ralph and Clyde? Why don’t you invite some girls over?

By RE

April 18, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

Lets see how long it takes for BD to put together a strained theory tying this guy Cho to Islam, Moveon.org, george soros, communism, and bill Clinton.

My guess is 2 days

By RW-(the original)

April 18, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

RE,

I can’t accept the Flat Tax since it leaves the sixteenth amendment in place. I would hope you’ve got a better argument than what it would take to send out prebates. It wouldn’t take much more than it takes to send out Social Security checks now we would be disbanding the IRS.

Paul,

I haven’t looked but I would bet right now that getalife is lying through his Crown Royal bag about telling Wooten that he would have liked SCOTUS to have vacated Roe V. Wade today.

By N-GA

April 18, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this

Bi-Danish,

So you would prefer to slit the throats of suspected terrorists…what a Christian Nazi you’ve shown yourself to be.

LMAO @ you once again…..

By Jake

April 19, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Luckodull,

You couldn’t possibly have a job and if you do, you must not do it well or earn the income that said employer provides. Do you understand that political pundits don’t even necessarily have to believe or mean what they say / write / draw? That is to say that they’re in the business of spurring emotion which in this case, they’ve clearly garnered out of you. Take your big right wing blow hards: O’reilly, Hannity, Rush, or any broadcaster on Fox News…they don’t mean or care about half of what they say. Their job is to feign rage make inflamatory remarks that get dumbsh!ts like you riled up and paying attention. Whether you agree or disagree with them isn’t their concern. What they care about is that you tune in. So long as “the sponsors” keep them on the air and keep their wallots stacked, they don’t care what kind of damage they do to America’s lowest common denominator. Stop buying into this political game. In other words, take away the demand and the market will dictate that the supply run out.

By JP

April 19, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

Dusty, pardon the other person who missed earlier posts. Sometimes it’s impossible to read 300+ of them (I will admit i cannot read all the ones after your reply).

That said, no he did not ask for deadlines, but said that discussion of them was constructive. However, conservatives like yourself argue we shouldn’t talk about such things because that “emboldens” the enemy. One of you is full of crap, and I think it’s the conservatives like yourself with all the “legislating defeat” cow manure.

Another of your comments demands retort: “You are an American and America is waging a war against militants in Iraq. You come out against the war. Are you anti-American, treasonous, anti-military or anti-war?”

Congress has not declared war on anyone. Bush-CHeney Inc. is using an ill-chosen metaphor (“war on terror”) which even the Brits acknowledge is uniting our disparate enemies into a common movement. I do not support Bush the treatment of this as a “war,” but I am neither anti-military, anti-AMerican nor treasonous. I am anti THIS war.

If you can’t handle Americans opposing the poor decisions of our leaders, and speaking out against them as allowed by the first amendment, you’re going to live out a disappointing life because we’re NOT going away.

Have a great day!

By Ron B

April 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION ALL ANTI-WAR LIBERALS WITH FAKE HUMAN COMPASSION

Please do a web search on “IRAQ SANCTIONS GENOCIDE”.

Then ask yourself why you were so SILENT on the massive amount of death back then. It seems that you value the lives of 3,200 Americans than you do the several hundred thousand human beings that perished over the 10 years of sanctions prior to the “Illegal War”.

Next ask yourself about Mike Luckovich and the rest of the Anti-War Left’s position:

If I live in the Georgia mountains and I fail to protect my young children from the known threat of wild animals as they play in my back yard I AM SAID TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE.

Within Iraq MUSLIMS ARE KILLING MUSLIMS……BUSH GETS BLAMED FOR FAILING TO PROVIDE SECURITY.

Now get this - back with the wild animal example - I truly am at fault because the ANIMALS are doing what they instinctively do - HUNT and KILL PREY.

What you all need to ask yourselves about YOURSELVES is why do you ASK OF BUSH but not apply any HUMAN-LEVEL expectations on the PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE KILLINGS OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE?

Might it be that YOU DON’T SEE THEM AS EQUAL, INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEINGS to you? Instead you fight against the war via people WHO GIVE A DAMN what you think. Why don’t you show that you value the people who are doing the most killing in Iraq as EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS and impress upon them and THEIR ACTIONS?

Clearly you show your true colors - not by your actual words but those who YOU DON’T TALK TO or attempt to influence with your THEORY.

By Ron B

April 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION ALL ANTI-WAR LIBERALS WITH FAKE HUMAN COMPASSION

Please do a web search on “IRAQ SANCTIONS GENOCIDE”.

Then ask yourself why you were so SILENT on the massive amount of death back then. It seems that you value the lives of 3,200 Americans than you do the several hundred thousand human beings that perished over the 10 years of sanctions prior to the “Illegal War”.

Next ask yourself about Mike Luckovich and the rest of the Anti-War Left’s position:

If I live in the Georgia mountains and I fail to protect my young children from the known threat of wild animals as they play in my back yard I AM SAID TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE.

Within Iraq MUSLIMS ARE KILLING MUSLIMS……BUSH GETS BLAMED FOR FAILING TO PROVIDE SECURITY.

Now get this - back with the wild animal example - I truly am at fault because the ANIMALS are doing what they instinctively do - HUNT and KILL PREY.

What you all need to ask yourselves about YOURSELVES is why do you ASK OF BUSH but not apply any HUMAN-LEVEL expectations on the PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE KILLINGS OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE?

Might it be that YOU DON’T SEE THEM AS EQUAL, INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEINGS to you? Instead you fight against the war via people WHO GIVE A DAMN what you think. Why don’t you show that you value the people who are doing the most killing in Iraq as EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS and impress upon them and THEIR ACTIONS?

Clearly you show your true colors - not by your actual words but those who YOU DON’T TALK TO or attempt to influence with your THEORY.