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Terror enough

By Mike Luckovich | Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 06:26 AM

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By Not Dull

April 17, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

[Rove, Wolfowitz and Gonzales are making the last-ditch argument of a cheating husband caught in flagrante: Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/16/AR2007041601412.html?hpid=opinionsbox1}

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

I just can’t believe amidst all of the shock, horror and grief of the Virginia Tech tragedy, with all the personal devastation to families and individuals alike, that Mike Luckovich can show a sickening, utter lack of respect, to demean the suffering of real people, by dragging his Bush insanity into this.

It’s a sure undeniable sign that you liberals are sick in the head, ask any professional, nothing in your life can be divorced from thoughts of the president of the United States?

How disgusting.

(I believe a non political heartfelt moment of silence is appropriate right now.)

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

{{{Fred Thompson is a member of the advisory committee for the Libby Legal Defense Trust, which supports Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff who is appealing his perjury conviction. Thompson told Wallace if he were president he would pardon Libby immediately: “This is a trial that never would have been brought in any other part of the world. This is a miscarriage of justice.”}}}

A man out to win my heart.

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A “man” out to make me sick:

{{{Speaking the same day that the Iraqi Parliament met in courageous defiance of terrorists who are trying to strangle their democracy in its cradle, Democratic Sen. Reid held a news conference to excitedly tell reporters how his party is benefiting politically from the violence in Iraq. Citing what he called “compelling and astounding” polling data, this was Sen. Reid’s distasteful prediction. “We’re going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.” That’s right. “We’re going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.”}}}

Someone who would risk our soldier’s lives, risk the freedoms of 25,000,000 Iraqis, so that they can score some stupid political points.

How disgusting.

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This is what a country is reduced to when it can’t find a lot of actual racism to justify a continuing struggle against racism. The revolution has many enemies and some are so well hidden that they themselves thought they were loyal citizens, so the purges must continue. The only other alternative would be to declare the struggle over and move on to a different problem — one that might not bring back groovy memories of the sixties and prop up an aging establishment of professionally offended shakedown artists.

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By Mrs. Godzilla

April 17, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this

My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims and their families.

What happened in Blacksburg most certainly an act of Terrorism.

By Disgusted

April 17, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

Once again Cartoon twit has proved that he is a man of poor taste, poor judgment and low IQ. Today’s cartoon should be an embarassment to every person who subscribes to this paper and all of its staff. However, most of you will blindly support him because he supports your warped world view. Mr. Luckovich, I only have one thing to add - I hope you suffer.

By Scooter

April 17, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

No comment.

By Paul Whiteley Sr.

April 17, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Mike Luckovich’s cartoon is “right on.” President Bush tries to justify our staying in Iraq by continuing to say if we leave before we achieve a victory, the terrorists will follow us to America. He says we are fighting them there so we won’t have to fight them here. There is no way we can keep all terrorists from coming here and committing terrorist acts. The horrible tragedy at Virginia Tech shows how vulnerable we are. The longer we stay in Iraq the more determined enemies we are creating.

By Nomad

April 17, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Another glaring example that ML, like most liberals, has no contact with reality. However, the powers that be continue to reward him for his incompetence. They even reward Cynthia Tucker for her incompetence too. Just keeps them going. How sad.

My prayers are with those who have lost loved ones.

NOMAD

By Kinja

April 17, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Bad form ML, just plain wrong. Can everybody put the political slants away for one damn day, OK?

By Peter

April 17, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

The violence at Virginia Tech yesterday highlights extremes in American culture.

The bloody carnage on the campus is shocking and decried from the streets to the White House while we are encouraged by the Bush Administration to dismiss staggering casualty numbers in Iraq.

I have to question the capability of gun advocates who encourage the proliferation of weapons across the country and a Bush Administration that advocates the invasion of Iraq and prolonged engagement to provide reasonable solutions to the deplorable status quo.

It is time for changes.

By George

April 17, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Nomad, just because ML doesn’t have contact with YOUR reality doesn’t mean he doesn’t have contact with the world. If you continue to stay in your madeup reality where we are greeted as liberators then of course he will never see you there.

By Paul

April 17, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

I prefer to distinguish criminal acts (crime) from “terrorism.” Terrorism indiscriminately targets innocents (as does crime) but the difference is to intimidate groups of people or societies to gain a religious, political or social advantage.

On another topic, I thought you might be interested, the Dalai Lama is going to appear at Rice University on May 1, speaking on “The Meaning of Compassion in Everyday Life.” I went online to get tickets but they must’ve sold out in about ten minutes. However, Rice is good enough to webcast the talk. Here’s the information:

Link: Dalai Lama webcast

By gadem

April 17, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

It is truly sad what happened at VA Tech…Paul, in my opinion terrorism can come in many forms. This crazed gunman used death to terrorize the school. He acheived his objective and then killed himself…he was a coward in my opinion. Stay around and face the consequences of his actions. Anyway the cartoon is a tribute to those that lost their lives. Meaning that there are more pressing needs here on the homefront…

By @@

April 17, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Yesterday’s media reporting on the Virginia Tech tragedy left me confused as to what was unfolding and the final count of families and friends who were left devastated.

I was on this site joking around with some posters while the tragedy unfolded.

It wasn’t until I watched the news after closing that I realized the human toll. I went to bed feeling very guilty for what appeared, on here, to be my lack of concern.

For that, I apologize.

I had no idea………

By Mrs. Godzilla

April 17, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Paul,

While you have the right to think however you wish….the definition of terrorist does not require the intimidation of “groups of people or societies to gain a religious, political or social advantage.”

I suspect those 33 souls were intimidated and that the shooter thought he was gaining some (albeit, sick) advantage.

By KZ_ Guy

April 17, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Right On ML. If we pull out of Iraq the Sunni & S** terrorists will swim across the ocean and kill each other in the streets of America. Yea right. If you don’t like ML’s toons why do you continue to read the AJC?

By Paul

April 17, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

I just find it helpful in a discussion to define terms where ambiguity exists. Knowing a person defines “terrorism” as any violent act where the victims feel fear or intimidation is helpful, as is knowing another person looks at legal definitions (defined by US government agencies, EU, other governments) and incorporates the military/political genesis of the term and implications for entire countries or societies.

By Peter

April 17, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

So your threshold of concern for other people’s tragedy is a dozen or more? Less than that is a joke?

I sensitivity is remarkable.

By George

April 17, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Hey Dull, I see that Cynthia Tucker won a Pulitzer Prize for “courageous, clear-headed” commentary.

When are you going to get one for your daily drivel.

By ML

April 17, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

I bet Bush hired the gunman so that he (Bush) could get the IRAQ war out of the news for a week or two. After all, I didn’t hear anything about Imus this morning. Slow new day. Get over it and move on.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Oh please wingnuts,

Save your fake outrage, not a peep of the slaughter in Iraq but cheering on that tragedy.

By Paul

April 17, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Peter

It has nothing to do with sensitivity or concern. It has to do with what is meant by a term. To say someone doesn’t feel compassion for a woman because the perpetrator was charged with “assault” rather than “attempted rape” misses the point entirely.

I find “terrorism” applied to many situations in the media - I read one where a school suspended an elementary-school boy for “terrorist acts.” If anything, I find that demeaning to victims of “actual” terrorism. The definitions I referred to are used within a legal framework and were adopted by the US Military, the European Union, as well as some individual countries. Common elements abound. The UN has not provided a definition.

While every terrorist act may be a violent criminal act, not every violent criminal act is a terrorist act.

By Mrs. Godzilla

April 17, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Paul,

I’ll have to think about this…

“While every terrorist act may be a violent criminal act, not every violent criminal act is a terrorist act.”

The Department of State definition of terrorism supports the statement

but I am hesitant to allow the government to alter/adjust/parse the definition of an english word.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

“Seung Hui Cho, a permanent resident of the United States, a Korean national and a Virginia Tech student has been identified as the gunman in the shootings that left 33 people dead on the Virginia Tech campus Monday, ABC News has learned.”

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

The NRA should begin using the millions of $$$ collected in fees for psychological testing (monthly? yearly?) for those Americans who insist they have a “right” to carry semi-automatic weapons… what are semi-automatic weapons supposed to be used for if not for killing many humans quickly? Who should be able to carry semi-automatics in America?

Where’s the outrage from the gun-lovers that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t allow them to bear nuclear arms if they want to? Where’s the limit on what the “right to bear arms” means?

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

It must be Clinton’s fault somehow, eh!?! Your hatred of Bill and Hillary comes through every day!

I pity you!

Tu esta loco in la cabeza!!

By Paul

April 17, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

I view terrorism as I’ve referenced it as one of the most horrible acts one can commit. I also find it horribly frightening when religious leaders advocate its use. To indiscriminately targets innocents, children, is to me one of the most evil acts that can be imagined. That said, it follows that the harshest punishments should be meted out to those who perpetrate such acts (those of you ready with a diatribe against the Bush administration and the military - please can it). So when I say “terrorist” there’s no doubt about the seriousness with which I view it and how it’s a category apart from other horrid acts of violence or intimidation that occur.

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

{{While every terrorist act may be a violent criminal act, not every violent criminal act is a terrorist act.}}

Uber, please explain to us why we call the hijackers on Sept. 11 “terrorists” instead of “criminals”, and how does that differ from what the lunatic did yesterday at VA Tech…

By getalife

April 17, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Watched a great special on Irag on Public broadcasting last night:

“AMERICA AT A CROSSROADS Warriors/Operation Homecoming: Writing The Wartime Experience (#102) “Warriors” profiles a handful of Army soldiers filmed during the Spring and Fall of 2005 in some of the most dangerous areas in and around Baghdad.”Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience” is a documentary that explores the searing firsthand accounts of American troops through their own words — fiction, verse, letters, essays and personal journals.”

Our troops are doing a great job and will make you proud in this documentary.

The Iraqis are not standing up and not helping.

By Paul

April 17, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Goldie

My perspective only - a lone person, independent, acting alone, anger with girlfriend/whatever, taking out his anger against others (as in drunk father, upset with work, who beats his kids) as opposed to members of a group with ideological, military or political objectives, who seek to garner attention and cause intimidation and fear by targeting unarmed, innocent civilians, in order to cause their enemy to capitulate and attain their ideological goals.

That was very brief - but I trust it incorporated the elements -

By @@

April 17, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Peter:

I’m assuming that your 9:12 was addressed to me.

My knowledge of the shooting until late, very late, was that there were wounded, and the gunman had been apprehended.

I was working yesterday afternoon, and believe me, in my workday, there is NO time allowed to watch T.V., follow news reports, or even communicate with other adults.

Again, my apologies. Sorry that wasn’t enough for you.

I’m off this board, and won’t be back today.

By Paul

April 17, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

Goldie

Just reread your post - another differentiating element is the Sep 11 hijackers were part of a group with a common ideology and objectives who had declared war against their enemy.

By Mrs. Godzilla

April 17, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Paul,

No matter what “category”, I view all violent acts seriously.

31 humans at VT Monday or 45 in Baghdad on Sunday.

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You are a true patriot!!

Keep it up!

TM

By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

ML,

This cartoon belongs in the Hall of Shame, along with “Pot to Kettle” aka “Book on Torture”.

LuckoDull,

Great comments.

{{{Anyway the cartoon is a tribute to those that lost their lives.}}}

Gadem,

This cartoon is what liberals consider a “tribute”?

@@,

There is nothing to feel guilty about. It takes a while to make sense of events like these and move from an intellectual response to an emotional one as the tales of horror and heroism unfold and our hearts fill with sorrow.

Getalife,

Please, save us your fake outrage for the carnage in Iraq. If you really cared you wouldn’t be so eager to abandon the Iraqi people without any concern for their welfare.

It is absolutely disgusting of you to state that we are “cheering on” what is occurring over there.

Paul,

You are correct in how you define terrorism.

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You are a true patriot!!

Keep it up!

TM

By Midori

April 17, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

{{{{Oh please wingnuts,

Save your fake outrage, not a peep of the slaughter in Iraq but cheering on that tragedy.}}}}}} aren’t they hilarious? and oh so transparent?

the gnashing of teeth!!

the fake “outrage”!!!

what heaping piles of sh*t!!

By Paul

April 17, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Mrs G 9:52

Well said. Which is why I’m looking forward to the May 1 webcast.

By Paul

April 17, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Thanks. I also think it’s okay to agree to disagree -

By getalife

April 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

BD,

You cheer on the daily murders in Iraq so save your fake outrage.

No outrage for Iraq.

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{{By George April 17, 2007 9:21 AM Hey Dull, I see that Cynthia Tucker won a Pulitzer Prize for “courageous, clear-headed” commentary. When are you going to get one for your daily drivel.}}}

Georgie Girl: It figures a little queenie like you would need this explained; I’m not a pinko® nor do I sit around all day incoherently babbling about Bush this, Bush that, Bush is the root of all evil, blah blah, blah, like you libs do.

If I did, I would have probably won two or three pulitizers by now.

Duh.

Care to show me a Conservative that’s won one lately, huh, huh?

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By The Peoples for a Nuked Amerika' Century

April 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

-=-

Good Morning Viet Iraq’——-

Britain no longer to use the term “War on Terroris”. It’s soo passe’

So the British have come back to reality. Now if only the USA would or could.

—

What qualifies as Terrorism? You have to be kidding me!

What qualifies as terrible death would be a better question.

Whether it’s 3000+ people dying in the World Trade Center, or 32 college kids dying in Virginia, or thousands of Iraqi’s dying in Iraq, it is still a terrible thing. A horrible thing. A tragedy!

Cheers —

Thomas/PNAC

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

That’s right!!

Congratulations to Cynthia Tucker! A great columnist and quite the hottie, too!!

TM says two thumbs up!!

By getalife

April 17, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Yes, congrats to Cynthia.

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

I think the words “were part of a group with a common ideology and objectives” also apply to the 2nd Amendment interpreters who twist the words to suit themselves. What’s to stop the 2nd Amendment terrorists from arming themselves with nukes and bombs? Don’t they have a “right” to do that, if they choose to interpret those words to suit their needs?

What was the original intent of the 2nd Amendment, and didn’t it have everything to do with keeping armed militias (like the Brits) from taking over Americans’ homes?

By reebok

April 17, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Heartfelt prayers and best wishes to all those at V-Tech…the lives lost, and the loved ones left behind. Sickening that the Accidental President will no doubt rush to score political points on the graves of these young people…looking all sincere and stricken…even as he is directly repsonsible for the deaths of 3,282 young Americans because he felt the need to blow up somebody after 9-11.

I also personally thought this cartoon was kind of muddled…is the point that the world is a dangerous place? Or that terrorists come in all types? Or that the Iraqi insugents aren’t ‘terrorists’ any more than this V-Tech student was? It looks like a knee-jerk, poorly though out effort to be topical…or maybe I’m just not insightful enough to get the nuance of the cartoon.

Also, congrats to C Tucker on her tremendous honor.

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

I don’t see much difference between what Tim McVeigh or Eric Rudolph did and what the terrorist did yesterday at VA Tech… they all were using their weapons for killing indiscriminately and killing as many as they possibly could, and to fulfill some insatiable need to kill. That’s using fear and terrorism to make some perverted point.

What should we do about our home-grown American terrorists who are in our midst at school and work?

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

{{another differentiating element is the Sep 11 hijackers were part of a group with a common ideology and objectives who had declared war against their enemy.}}

Pretty much describes the NRA, too.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

I would not be surprised if this guy found his girlfriend with another man and flew into a jealous rage.

By JNH

April 17, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Congratulations to Cynthia! It’s great to have a ‘voice of reason.’

By Rev. Jim Jones

April 17, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Goldie asks:

What should we do about our home-grown American terrorists who are in our midst at school and work?

I think I’ve got an idea…

By Disgusted

April 17, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Goldie - re your 10:21 post: Ask yourself that same question!

By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You are a shameless liar.

Here’s an opportunity to prove me wrong. Find ONE post from me that backs up your completely unfounded assertion.

Mrs. Godzilla,

This was a “terrorist” act on a college campus.

Unless there was a political motive for the carnage at Virginia Tech, it was mass murder and not terrorism.

By Lasic surgery

April 17, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Truthman - you need glasses.

By Bipartisan scandals?

April 17, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

You are a liberal’s scandal Mike. Today you score a BIG FAT ZERO loser.

By Paul

April 17, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Goldie 10:15

That’s a debate I generally avoid. Jack Anderson wrote a book about 15 years back about the NRA. What I recall is that both sides were happy to keep the issue going but backed off before anything broad ever made it to the Supreme Court. Rather like a high stakes poker game. If you want to keep on playing, don’t call the hand, cuz when it’s over, it’s over.

Near as I can recall, most Federal appeals courts reject the idea of “milita” as “any citizen” (with the notable exception of the appeals court in DC). As one reads through the Constitution, one reads the word “militia” many times, not just the one time quoted in the Second. Somehow, I don’t believe many gun owners who cite the Second would be too happy to extrapolate that citation to the understanding they’re part of a “militia” that can be called by the authority of the Executive and pressed into service - now, there’s a way to cut down on the deployments of National Guard and Reserve forces!

You really enjoy opening Pandora’s Box, don’t you?

By steve-o

April 17, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Truthman,

@ 10:11 I couldn’t have said it better.

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

{{{By Goldie April 17, 2007 10:24 AM {{another differentiating element is the Sep 11 hijackers were part of a group with a common ideology and objectives who had declared war against their enemy.}} Pretty much describes the NRA, too.}}}

Comparing the National Rifle Association to the 9/11 hijackers.

.

.

Uh, yeah.

Kinda let’s you know just how hysterically out of control these liberals really are.

And how we should be ignoring them on Iraq, “global warming,” and all the other contrived insanity that they babble incoherently about.

When they wail, just politely look the other way.

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By Mrs. Godzilla

April 17, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

You are, in my humble opinion, half right.

I believe, mass murder is terrorism.

As Paul has accurately pointed out, it does not fit the US Government definition. It does however fit Merriam-Webster.

Peace

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

It’s “Lasik,” not “Lasic.”

Back to grammar school for you!

By George

April 17, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Dull, very few Conservatives win Pulitzers because very few Conservatives can separate fact from fiction. Don’t expect a prize for living in your own dream world.

By Augusta resident

April 17, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

The VT student on the left was one of the first shot Mr. Luckovich.

I do not appreciate your use of this tragedy in your political satire.

Shame on you.

By Guy Pinestra

April 17, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

The National Rifle Association is equivalent to the 9/11 hijackers?

Ooooooookay…

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

A well regulated Militia… mi·li·tia
n. 1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers. 2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency. 3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.

…being necessary to the security of a free state… necessary = needed security = safety free = unbound

…the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

right = unfettered access people = you and me keep = possess bear = carry infringed = violated

You’ll take my guns only after I’ve emptied them in the general direction of your dictatorial A$$!

By SarahConnah

April 17, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

The horror at Virginia Tech was highlighted by the visions of Bucharoo Bush with his empty gaze expressing an emotion he knows nothing about: Compassion for victims of madness.

Bless you Hokies everywhere!

Curtsie!

By Oppie

April 17, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Hey, GuY Pinestraw,

Wanna buy some loose nukes?

I know a guy that can get yellow cake from Nigeria…..

How about shoulder fired depleted uranium tipped rocket launcher?

Buy one get one free.

You sound like just that kind of whacko.

By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

The Merriam Webster on-line dictionary defines “terrorism” as “the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.”

What “coercion” was there at Virginia Tech?

In my opinion, these definitions are better than Webster’s, but in any case none of them define “mass murder” as “terrorism”.

The victims were no doubt “terrorized” and experienced “terror” before they died, but that does not make it “terrorism”.

This discussion of semantics is a good time to mention that Don Imus made a “hateful” comment, but it was not “hate speech” - a term I would personally like to have expunged from our lexicons.

For it to have been “hate speech” he would have had to “hate” the Rutgers basketball team, which is of course a ludicrous assertion.

I “hate” the way political correctness is distorting the meaning of words.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Where is your outrage over this BD?

or this:

“04/15/07 Reuters: 19 bodies found in Baghdad on Saturday

Police found the bodies of 19 people in various parts of Baghdad in the past 24 hours, police said

04/15/07 Reuters: 20 Iraqi troops and policemen abducted A group linked to al Qaeda said it abducted 20 Iraqi troops and policemen and demanded the release of all Sunni women held in Iraq’s prisons, according to a Web statement

04/15/07 Reuters: 4 killed by suicide bombers in Mosul Four people, including two Iraqi soldiers, were killed and 16 wounded when two oil trucks driven by suicide bombers exploded outside a military base in the northern city of Mosul, police said.

04/15/07 AP: Suicide bomber kills 5, wounds 11 in northwest Baghdad a suicide bomber blew himself up on a minibus in northwest Baghdad, killing at least eight people and wounding 11, police and hospital officials said.

04/15/07 AP: 37 die as car bomb hits near Iraq shrine A car bomb blasted through a busy bus station near one of Iraq’s holiest shrines Saturday, killing at least 37 people, police and hospital officials said.”

Mass murder everyday in Iraq.

Do you get it now?

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

{{{By George April 17, 2007 10:48 AM Dull, very few Conservatives win Pulitzers because very few Conservatives can separate fact from fiction. Don’t expect a prize for living in your own dream world.}}}

Uh-huh:

Republicans seem to believe that if they lost an election, somebody cheated. That delusion has not only led them to chase after unsubstantiated rumors of fake voters but also to put in place unconstitutional restrictions at the ballot box. Harsh voter ID laws have already suppressed voting by people of color around the country.-Queen Pinko, Urinal

Would anybody else like to weigh in on which political party it was that has done nothing but allege voter fraud, at least up until the point they won an election?

Haha, talk about a dream world.

And little queenie Georgie girl just nods her little head up and down, likr the blooming idiot she is.

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By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

What is going on in Iraq is “terrorism”. Terrorism has an ideological, religious or political basis.

Do you enjoy perpetuating a “well-defined” image as a complete dunce?

By Blackadder

April 17, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Today’s OTHER carton that doesn’t suck

By Scooter

April 17, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

As the liberals attempt to portray conservatives as cold and mean spirited ,and Getalife continues, I would like to ask where was their compassion?

“More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation.”

Oh yeah, it is all about delivering blind criticisms when any opportunity presents itself and narrowing ones view to the short term.

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

By Blackadder

April 17, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Typical wingnut post:

attempt to ridicule liberal’s position

apply misinformation/outright lie

insult liberal

repeat

Sorry I can’t stick around. Too busy this week.

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 17, 2007 11:39 AM Mass murder everyday in Iraq Do you get it now?}}}

Who is doing the killing in Iraq dimwit?

Why do you think we are fighting them?

Besides which:

{{{The number of bodies found this month in Baghdad – most of them shot and showing signs of torture – has dropped by nearly 50 percent to 494 as of Monday night, compared with 954 in January and 1,222 in December, according to figures compiled by The Associated Press.}}}

WTF?

Who’s side are you on?

Al Qaeda’s?

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By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

Brilliant post @ 11:43.

Cynthia Tucker is in perfect company with Pulitzer winners Walter Duranty and Janet Cook.

AND

Here is the Weekly Standard’s recap of Duranty’s willfull falsehoods.](http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/791vwuaz.asp?ZoomFont=YES)

More to come. I’d post it all here but the Pulitzer Prize winning AJC’s server won’t permit it.

By Guy Pinestra

April 17, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Oppie,

Did I say I wanted loose nukes, yellowcake or DU weapons?

Ummmm. No, I didn’t.

Only a whacko could compare the two.

“Study after study shows that increasing gun control laws leads to an increase in crime rather than a decline.”

You can read about it here

By getalife

April 17, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

I post my outrage everyday about the Iraq slaughter.

Wingnuts cheer it on.

Nuff said.

By ron

April 17, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Luckovich, A simple page edged in black with the words Virginia Tech,April 16,2007 would have been much nicer.

By Just sayin'

April 17, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

The liberals can’t separate what is going on in Iraq with what happened at VT… Good grief, what a bunch of loons!!

Will they take any opportunity to score political points?

Just look at Luckovitch cartoons-

Pathetic and sad really.

Condolences to the VT family and friends.

By Little Right of Center

April 17, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Goldielocks, (9:40)

You are correct, there should be no restrictions on what type firearm I can own. If I want to own a SAM I should be able to. UNTIL I misuse it and cause an unjustified death.

Let the flames begin!!

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 17, 2007 12:04 PM I post my outrage everyday about the Iraq slaughter.}}}

Blah, blah, blah.

You trying to win a pulitizer too dimwit:

Chronicle of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein: Hussein’s regime killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and its neighbors for over two decades. Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of Saddam’s actions.

Which, of course, was met with a wall of lib silence.

You have no credibility left as an American, why even bother?

From now on, I call you al-Gitmo.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Scooter

April 17, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I know you post your opportunistic “outrage” daily, but; you focus that “outrage” on your own country. While blaming your own country you gloss over events and occurrences that are at least as outrageous and committed by others.

Point in case, liberals act upset about our liberation but seem complacent to let the Oil for Food Program continue pillaging the food from starving children. You ignore the portions of the Duelffer Report that stated Saddam had corrupted the monitoring program and had every intention of reconstituting his WMD programs after his corruption eroded sanctions. Or, do you really believe the UN (in all its glory) had changed Saddam’s intentions, perhaps you think the UN was going to stay there forever?

By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Well, well, well.

The evil mass-murderer at Virginia Tech didn’t like “rich kids” and “debauchery”.

I wonder how many Leftist professors he had to fill his mind with class warfare and anti-American propaganda.

Going back to the Pulitzers, if anyone is wondering whether the Pulitzer Committee retracted Duranty’s prize, the answer is…no.

Even the New York Times admits their own errors but sort of half-heartedly admonishes the Pulitzer Board for not rescinding the award.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

I am on the majority of American people’s side Andy.

The ones that know right from wrong.

w’s slaughter for oil is dead wrong.

May God have mercy on your soul.

By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Moonbat alert!

It’s Charlton Heston’s fault!

By LuckoDull

April 17, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 17, 2007 12:14 PM w’s slaughter for oil is dead wrong.}}}

al-Gitmo, Kook: When do you reckon we’ll start getting this oil?

(Own up to his babble, majority. Are y’all as crazed as he is? Do you pay tribute to the deaths of 32 innocent people by drawing a disrespectful cartoon slandering the president?)

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By JOHN DICKERSON, MARIETTA

April 17, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I AGREE WITH MR. LUCKOVICH. WHAT ABOUT THE THREE ALABAMA LADS WHO BURNED DOWN SEVERAL BLACK CHURCHES? AREN’T THEY TERRORISTS? WHY SHOULDN’T THEY BE SHIPPED OFF TO GUANTANAMO?

By Buy Danish

April 17, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Save your insincere prayers for your secular progressive friends.

Who the hell do you think you are to preach to us about right and wrong?

You sound like a freaking Islamist.

By Randy

April 17, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

You’re hiding your liberal compassion in the bushes I see Mikey. What else do you do back there jerk?

By RE

April 17, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

from the CDC on gun crimes

A firearm was reported to have been involved in the deaths of 1107 children; 957 (86%) of those occurred in the United States. Of all firearm-related deaths, 55% were reported as homicides; 20%, as suicides; 22%, as unintentional; and 3%, as intention undetermined. The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was nearly 12 times higher than among children in the other 25 countries combined (1.66 compared with 0.14) (Table_1). The firearm-related homicide rate in the United States was nearly 16 times higher than that in all of the other countries combined (0.94 compared with 0.06); the firearm-related suicide rate was nearly 11 times higher (0.32 compared with 0.03); and the unintentional firearm-related death rate was nine times higher (0.36 compared with 0.04). For all countries, males accounted for most of the firearm-related homicides (67%), firearm-related suicides (77%), and unintentional firearm-related deaths (89%). The nonfirearm-related homicide rate in the United States was nearly four times the rate in all of the other countries (1.63 compared with 0.45), and nonfirearm-related suicide rates were similar in the United States and in all of the other countries combined (0.23 compared with 0.24).

By getalife

April 17, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

It is my country and I am ashamed of my government.

You want to talk about corruption, wait until you see the oil law if they can get enough people to show up to pass it.

The corruption in Iraq is worse, their security is worse, their infrastructure is worse and their government will collapse.

You keep posting about the oil for food corruption but you need to look at it now and stop ignoring this disaster.

Wake up Scooter.

By RE

April 17, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

I am not against gun ownership, I think that with freedom comes risk, and I am willing to accept those risks in return for the freedoms provided. But please do not try to make the case that a higher rate of gun ownership makes a society safer.

By Clyde

April 17, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Has drunken Bushie made his photo op trip to Blacksburg yet? The trash that slaughters hundreds daily is going to shed a tear and invoke the name of God in West Virginia. And the neoconed masses will believe.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

BD,

Let me stoop to your level

By Get a map and a clue Clyde

April 17, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Does drunken Clyde know that Virginia Tech is in Virginia, not West Virginia?

By Randy

April 17, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

SarahConnah - Curtsies won’t cover up your disdainful nature. Did you find the president’s emotions in your crystal ball?

Which party capitalized on Imus and his free speech? Which party will capitalize on the tragedy at Virginia Tech when they decide to rob us of our right to bear arms?

It has already started stupid. Look in your crystal ball and tell us when we’ll be under the boot of the dictatorial dems whydontcha.

By getalife

April 17, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Speaking emotional.

Geez candy, you will still have the right to bear arms.

They might ban them on campus but doubt you are in college.

By IN THE NEWS

April 17, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

US Troop Deaths Up 21 Percent in Iraq

By Scooter

April 17, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Getalife, I’m wide awake thanks. I also read your link yesterday about the Oil Law. And from your link it said: The Hydrocarbons Law contains two fundamental provisions, the first governing how Iraq will distribute revenues from its 115 billion barrels of oil reserves—the second-largest after Saudi Arabia’s. The second provision will allow regional governments to negotiate production contracts with foreign oil companies.

So, we know Saddam in no way distributed oil revenues equitably and this law allows a representative government to distribute those revenues. Do you have a problem with that? Secondly, it said the Hydrocarbons Law allows REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS of Iraq to negotiate contracts with foreign oil companies. Is that the part you are told to have a problem with? If so, do you feel that no foreign oil companies, with their massive capital and expertise, should be allowed to negotiate a deal with the regional governments of Iraq?

Given your “outrage” I assume you were not blindly criticizing the high gas prices, right?

Did your sources of information express any “outrage” over the UN corruption? I’ll bet they didn’t.

Do your sources of information express “outrage” that Hezbollah still has not released those Israeli troops they kidnapped to start Israel’s most recent attack on Lebanon? I’ll bet they haven’t.

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/04/16/fairnessdoctrine/indexnp.html

Please bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

It was Ronnie Raygun’s dismantling of the Fairness Doctrine that has led to neo-con blowhards such as Lush and Vanity. Those douchebags don’t have to offer equal time for opposing viewpoints.

Hopefully, Lush will be the next to go.

Don’t cry, Luckodullllllll!

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

What should we call the Marines who did those terrorist acts in Haditha — are they terrorists or just mass murderers?

By Ralph

April 17, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Luckobum: Re your 8:03, I think you picking your teeth out of your rectum will more likely “be appropriate.”

By Truthman

April 17, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Terrorists! They were ideologically brainwashed into believing that killing in The Chimperor’s name was noble and his “crusade” just!

Jesustan Forever!!

By getalife

April 17, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Scooter,

No, he kept the lid on to the slaughter. He was bat sh-it crazy found in a spider hole.

No, their government will collapse.

I think they should use oil revenue to rebuild but it will be corrupted like your oil for food.

Yes, I am outraged over big oils record profits and high gas prices.

My sources want corruption prosecuted like lobbyists.

Yes, that war is over Hezbollah should release the prisoners and so should Israel.

Anything else I can answer for you?

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

“You are correct, there should be no restrictions on what type firearm I can own.”

I guess according to Way,Way Right @ 12:10, there should be no restriction on owning bomb-making materials either? Or do you just want to interpret your “right to bear arms” to only mean guns? Do you even draw a line anywhere as to what’s allowed for your “rights”?

By Truthsayer

April 17, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Okay Truthman - so you are for censorship. Because you do not like the fact that someone is successful, then you want to censor those views. That smacks of fascism or totalitarianism to me. There was nothing fair about the fairness doctrine because “news” shows were exempted and people like Waterhead Congripe and John Chancellor were allowed to peddle their liberal views uncensored and unchallenged. Like them or not, people like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are equal time. Nothing except old fashioned economics has prevented you liberals from having effective competition. The fact is that no one listened to (Sc)Air America and that is why it failed. If people stop listening to conservative talk radio it will go away because radio stations are in business to attract listeners and make money.

It all boils down to the fact that you are afraid of competing views. You also have an overwhelmingly liberal radio network financed by MY tax dollars - it is called NPR. You also have ABC, CBS, NBC, PMSNBC and CNN. It looks like you don’t want any competition at all. Scared are we?

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

How many of you gun-lovers claim that semi-automatic weapons were created for hunting animals???

I haven’t been involved in that argument for awhile.

By Goldie

April 17, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

For the Iraqi citizens who are living through VA Tech type of slaughters on a daily basis, have they been terrorized, or is this just “mass murder” occurring in their lives??? Every day…

By Randy

April 17, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

getalife - Are you f*** Sarah moron? I wasn’t talking to you. Talking to a braindead idiot like you is a waste. You’re a waste and a Huff’nPuff mouthpiece. A useful tool to suck their dick. Every time I come in here you’re espousing some useless b****** with no foundation in truth.

FO getslow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Paul

April 17, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

RE 12:32

Muddying up the water with data, again?

I agree - emotion seems to rule on this topic. I think citizen ownership of firearms are a fact of life. The real debate shouldn’t be over extremes (ban guns vs. unfettered access) but upon what constitutes reasonable restrictions for the benefit of the citizenry. BTW - I put those restrictions pretty high.

Goldie 12:57

I believe they should be classified as “charged.”

If convicted, they’d be convicted criminals, known as murderers. Given they were part of a military force of a soverign nation operating under the jurisdiction of proper authority, subjected to the laws of their nation as well as international agreements, it would be improper to label them “terrorists.” It’s not exactly a moniker one picks up, discards, and picks up again when one or two facts of a case vary.

In my opinion -

By SarahConnah