Mike Luckovich

By Not Dull

April 16, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this

We pray for the soldiers safe return and are REALLY thankful that George W. Bush’s term will be up in January 2009. It will take years to undo the damage that that little man has done.

By biga01

April 16, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

You know we have had to deal with another George in our history …as in King George….

By S Z

April 16, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this

I would say 95% of the Soldiers in Iraq would spit on this cartoon. The media and people like ML just can not take a real leader. The media and ML want to run and hide and kiss the feet of the terrorist. They want to play nice with them, well it will not work and if the idiots of this country that voted for this last congress get their way we will have another Clinton in the Whitehouse and then just watch everything go to hell. Its funny, The last poster said it would take years to undo what Bush has done, Hmm, Lets see… Almost everyone has a job, the government is bringing in more money in tax revenue in the history of this country, etc, etc.. We really want to undo that don’t we? Maybe a few more social programs from the ones that won’t get off their dead A** and get a job…

Can’t Wait……

Good Bless our Troops.. Thank you for keeping me and my family save…

By @@

April 16, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

While you’ve got our noble military counting the days ml, our noble military has the extremists counting “the virgins”.

Islamic Heaven Alert: Demand for Virgins Exceeds Supply! By: John Lillipop

John is a “recovering” liberal ml.

He’s funny!!!

12 easy steps, but you can’t even stand up. You’re drunk on BDS.

By Truthsayer

April 16, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

S Z - you said a mouthful. Thank you. Mr. Luckovich is a small minded little man with air between his ears. The sad thing is that too many people in our schools and universities are buying the hate America first crap being spewed by neo-Leninist history teachers and left-wing sychophants in the “main-stream” media like Mr. Luckovich.

By Truthsayer

April 16, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

biga01 - I will remind you that during the American Revolution we were also led by George Washington and George Mason. It seems that George W. Bush is in good company.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Interesting. According to the Dec 2006 Military Times Poll (nonscientific), attitudes are remarkably consistent with the nonmilitary population. There are some differences - about half the respondents think more troops are needed.

But overall, absent progress or a perceived chance of progress, support dwindles.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Sorry - here’s the link to the Military Times Poll

Link:Military Times Poll Dec 2006

By W

April 16, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

I miss the rabid babble of Luckodull salivating into his keyboard on the weekends. It’s most amusing to read the rant of a deeply troubled, grotesquely misinformed and loud “conservative” wanna be. Real conservatives actually have knowledge acquired from multiple news feeds to form opinions. I’ve often wondered if Luckodull is really Rush.

Today I see he is using S Z as his screen name.

By ML

April 16, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Mike, this cartoon is one of your best ever. Keep’em coming.

By Jesus

April 16, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Brilliant!!

That is the grunt’s entire life in a nutshell when he/she is “in the box!!”

Simply brilliant!!

Wrong people! Wrong war! Wrong!!

Cheney on “Meet the Press” yesterday was a joke. How can he keep a straight face?

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Here’s a sampling from Rosie’s blog of her immature and BDS inflicted thinking:

dont fear “TERRORISTS” - they are mothers and fathers

How can someone write this stuff for public consumption and not be embarrassed by the content and style?

ML must be her inspiration and mentor!

By S Z

April 16, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

No, I am a free thinker, I have my own ideas and thoughts. For example, I will never purchase the AJC. My dog won’t even use it because of the Anti Bush hate message that it prints. Think what you want, I can take anything you dish out. Just remember this. I live and work over 50 miles outside Atlanta, When the terrorist hit Atlanta, I will be safe and sound, you on the other hand might not be so lucky. When that time comes, maybe you will be thinking, Maybe Bush was right.

Time will tell, I hope it never comes to that, but only time will tell..

God bless our troops….

and thank you Truthsayer…

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Paul,

You’re linking to a poll from the Gannett owned Military Times from December 2006, which was before Petreus took over?

Why?

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Agenda driven propaganda in it’s purest form:

{{{Washington —- Global warming poses a “serious threat to America’s national security,” and the United States probably will be dragged into fights over water and other shortages, top retired military leaders warn in a new report. The report warns that in the next 30 to 40 years there will be ((((wars over water)))) and increased instability from hunger, worsening diseases, ((((rising sea levels)))) and global warming-induced refugees. ” Gen. Anthony Zinni, President Bush’s former Middle East envoy, said in the report: “It’s not hard to make the connection between climate change and instability, or climate change and terrorism.”-Urinal}}}

The same generals^^ that failed so miserably in Iraq, great, now they want to apply their “expertise” to America, terrific.

Check it out, rising sea levels AND water shortages. Can you say “desalinization?”

Food shortages in a warmer world where more farmland will be available?

Yaaawwwwnnnnnnn.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

We’re not talking about real deep intelligence here:

More than two dozen demonstrators braved cold, wet weather Saturday in Reno to attend a rally designed to draw attention to global warming. The event was cut short by heavy rain and sleet, said organizer Lisa Stiller of the Northern Nevada Coalition for Climate Change. The storm prevented the use of solar ovens for a potluck picnic, Stiller said, and caused the planned two-hour demonstration to break up after about an hour.

A “global warming” scare rally broken up because of cold weather, haha.

I’m sorry, but WTF?

Can’t you libs get a grip on your emotions?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

{{{Al-Sadr, who wields tremendous power among Iraq’s majority Shiites, has been upset about recent arrests of his Mahdi Army fighters in the U.S.-led Baghdad security crackdown. He and his followers have also criticized al-Maliki for failing to back calls for a timetable for U.S. troops to leave the country.}}}

Oh, poor thing.

You libs are going to lose in Iraq just as sure as Al Qaeda is.

Get used to it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

The most “ethical” Congress in History, hahaha:

{{{ Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi took his wife, nine Democrats and two Republicans - Reps. Dan Lungren of California and Mike Rogers of Alabama - on a whirlwind tour of the Caribbean last week. All told, the military flew at least 13 congressional delegations to various destinations during the Easter recess — at an estimated rate of $10,000 or more per flying hour. Thompson’s office said he toured the Caribbean because he now chairs the Homeland Security Committee and wanted to see vacation hot spots to “examine border security and port security.” Three other members of the delegation also brought along their spouses. At the Caneel Bay resort, where room rates reach $1,100 per night, the spokeswoman said Thompson and his wife paid the “government rate.” But, according to the reservations department, Caneel Bay doesn’t “offer any government rates.”}}}

I can see why they want to hike taxes so bad.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

Think about that: there are no data, no polls whatsoever that show that Americans want U.S. troops out of Iraq before the next presidential election. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. To the contrary, polls dating back to just after the November 2006 presidential election show that Americans support neither the president’s old plans nor any Democratic plan to withdraw from Iraq by any date certain. What Americans want is to win the war and then come home.

Like any normal sane person would want.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

{{{Ironically, Disney’s target audience is families with children, a majority of those individuals being opposed to gay marriage. Disney has become an tool for a movement that threatens to eradicate the family values on which Walt Disney founded his brand. The magic and innocence of 1930’s primitive Disney has been replaced with a politically correct fairy tale of disillusioned tolerance. And just like your childhood, the magic is gone. A name once supreme has now become common.}}}

Targeting the children.

Sick, sick, sick.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Mike D

April 16, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Trying to referee a civil war is NOT keeping us safer here…Iraqi insurgents are NOT going to book a flight and come here…you are more likely to be a victim of violent crime than any terrorist attack. Since Bush cut many after-school and job programs, crime has skyrocketed. The repuglicans have neglected the people of the U.S., (remember Katrina), in favor of supporting Haliburton and the military industrial complex. The corruption and poor leadership is only now being exposed thanks to the great Americans who put Democrats in Congress.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Ah, somehow I knew you’d spot the time differential and the implications.

Because it was the latest poll. As I pointed out, about half the troops wanted increased force levels. That’s what Gen Petraeus wanted - got - but now, thanks be to Congress, probably not the funds to carry out the plan.

Another lesson from “reading” polls: saying “not happy” doesn’t mean “not happy so leave” - can mean “not happy - not making progress on the level we want - think it’s doable - give us the resources (money)” - and who’s not, even though they’re “supporting the troops?”

Let the games continue -

Regarding your Rosie post - we shouldn’t fear moms and dads who think it’s a good thing for their kids to commit suicide and kill people who don’t believe in God the way they do?

I’d call that reason to be at least a tad bit concerned -

By candide

April 16, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Support the troops! Send Bush to Baghdad for a Shiite head message.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Yes - “not happy” could very well mean “send more troops”. These are bogus questions like the meaningless “right track/wrong track” questions that pollsters love.

For instance, I could say that the country is on the wrong track because of its lax immigration policies, but still support our President on the war on terror and national security issues like NSA wiretaps.

The people who put these polls together are either not very deep thinkers, or are willfully trying to distort, and then spin, the results.

One also has to ask - why no new polls since Petreus’ changed the rules of engagement?

By Whatitis

April 16, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

To all the idiots that created a 5 mile back up on Camp Creek Pkwy today because they were probably handed a GA drivers license, rather than earning it, you are NOT required to STOP at a FLASHING YELLOW light.

By Been there, Done that

April 16, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

Hot Off the Presses! Eart shattering NEWS, NEWS, NEWS ! ! ! !

John McCain to call for less spending

Holy Shiite, paint my a$$ green and call me Skippy…..a REPUBLICAN has actually had the temerity to call for LESS government spending. Hell, his own party’s gonna skin em alive if he dares to even dream of shuttin off their never ending ocean of warbucks.

Oh yea I forgot, McCain’s runnin for office, so this is just another mountain of horseshiite that Republicans mouth to get elected then completely ignore once they hornswoggle us into votin for em.

Yeh, McLiar, suuuuuuuuuuure you’re gonna cut spending. Suuuuuuuure you are. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT ! ! !

By Paul

April 16, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Been There Done That

And the Democratic alternative (pick your candidate with their stated policy position) is: ?????

(Remember - LESS government spending, not revenue neutral).

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Former Marine Corps General John Sheehan on why he declined to become The Chimperor’s latest toadie!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/15/AR2007041500564.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

But, I guess he’s another un-American traitor, right Buy Danish? Luckodull? @@?

Just another traitor to Cheney’s neo-christian vision, eh?

By getalife

April 16, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

The Iraq government is collapsing.

Al Sadr’s group has left the building.

But the gop is worried about one thing in Iraq:

“Graham: On the oil from the counsel of ministers have passed an oil agreement that needs to be ratified by the parliament…

Wallace: But it’s been sitting in the parliament for weeks now, Senator.

Graham: Well, the parliament got bombed yesterday—it’s pretty hard…

Wallace: Wait a minute, it’s been sitting there for weeks before the parliament got bombed…”

Just in case you had any doubt about the Iraq occupation, It is slaughter for oil.

Where does the buck stop for this tragedy?

By In the Long Run

April 16, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD - The radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his followers in the Cabinet to abandon their posts on Monday, the head of the cleric’s parliamentary bloc said, blaming the Iraqi leadership’s refusal to respond to demands for a timetable for a U.S. withdrawal.

Republicans continue to screw up and destabilize the fragile fledgling Iraqi government by refusing to set a timetable for withdrawal, enflaming sectarian tensions, and preventing the establishment of a meaningful Iraqi governmental authority so that they can continue to produce and sell a few more war trinkets and, of course, steal a few more gazillion war bucks from the pockets of the American taxpayer.

Republicans want to keep this war strung out as long as they possibly can so they can bleed America for as many pilfered warbucks as they can wrap their greedy, blood soaked fingers around.

It is time to stop war profiteers from controlling the debate over Iraq. The Iraqi government needs a timetable for withdrawal of US forces in order to consolidate its’ control.

As long as America continues to hold the Iraqi government’s hand, wipe its’ nose, clean out its’ ears, powder its’ behind, and say it will always be there for little baby, this government will never grow up. Republicans are enslaving the Iraqi people in a welfare state. In the long run, no good will come form it.

By Truth, Might be Embarrassing

April 16, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

LONDON (AFP) - The US military authorities are failing to cooperate with yet another probe into the deaths of British troops in Iraq during the US-led invasion in 2003, an investigating coroner said Monday.

“It seems to me inexcusable that witnesses could come to assist this inquest but are not allowed to do so,” Andrew Walker told the hearing in Oxford. It is not the first time Walker has criticised the United States for failing to co-operate with hearings into the deaths of British troops in Iraq.

In March, he repeatedly expressed his frustration at the Pentagon’s failure to provide vital information and witnesses into the death of a British soldier, who died after two US jets mistakenly fired on his clearly-marked convoy.

Yeh, can’t let anybody know the TRUTH, that might be embarrassing. Shiite, those soldiers familes just need to hear what they’re told and STFU, why are THEY entitled to know the truth about how their loved ones died?

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

In the Long Run’s analysis is as flawed as Chamberlain’s reasoning behind his “Peace in our Lifetime” speech. Long Run, put your talking points back in your left pocket and do some real resarch.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Check our Buy Danish’s melt down yesterday:

”{{{{By Buy Danish

April 15, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Stop with the “strawman” complaints.

You are feverish over nothing right now. Fitzgerald has had access to those emails all along. We all know that emails can’t be destroyed. Surely Karl Rove knows that too. There is no there, there - this is just a great big, disgraceful witch hunt and Karl Rove is the target of your persecution.

In contrast, I don’t recall you ever uttering a peep of outrage about Sandy Berger.}}}”

Gee, all I asked was “where soes the buck stop”?

It is a simple question with a simple answer.

The President but for some stupid reason the wingnuts can’t say it.

I rules wooten’s blog so bad that he decided to post on Obama.

I can’t get past the fact that Obama campaigned for Lieberman because Joe is with the gop.

If they support the slaughter for oil, I do not think they should be in office.

That just me ashamed of those who do support the slaughter for oil.

By @@

April 16, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Oh nooooooooo.

Berlin Zoo’s Polar Bear Knut Is Sick

Which “knut”?

I’m no veterinarian, but I’m gonna guess it’s the “left” knut.

It’s shriveled up?

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

@@!

“Barney” is coming on GPTV at 10 a.m.

Why don’t you and your immature self watch it?

By In the Long Run

April 16, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

Joe Right: Where does one go to do ‘some real resarch’?

It’s 2007, not 1937, just in case you’d like to focus on current events rather than questionable analogies to a past age that have little relevance to the state of the world as it exists today.

This is not to say that we can’t learn from the past, just that we should leaven our knowledge of it with common sense and the understanding that apples are not oranges!

So, what’s your solution to achieving a stable Iraqi government? Wanna just extreminate all the Sadarists and Sunnis, or find a mechanism through which all can support their new fledling government?

These groups are DEMANDING a timetable for US withdrawal and will not support an Iraqi government that doesn’t demand the same. How do you propose to bring stability to Iraqi governance when our very presence precludes any meaningful dialogue or progress in finding solutions to their multitude of differences?

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Love the ‘toon — once again, it speaks the truth. This disgraceful occupation of Iraq has been caused by the incompetence and arrogance of the Bush administration… so much could go wrong and they managed to do everything wrong from the beginning.

Just like 70% of America, I am looking forward to having new leadership in ‘09!

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

{{The media and people like ML just can not take a real leader.}}

Obviously another member of the 29% cult — “real leader” — like you even know what that means! Who can be considered a real leader when over 2/3 of America is not following your dictates, or even listening to you anymore???

Sad and pathetic leader is the more accurate term.

By @@

April 16, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Well Truthman, Barney would be more up your alley, wouldn’t he?

“I love you…you love me…we’re a happy family.”

“With a great big hug, and a kiss from me to you.”

“Won’t you say you love me too.”

I’m a realist, and you’re an idealistic liberal.

You’re “rosey” and I’m not.

Understand?

I’m inclined to enjoy life, and you’re a fatalist.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

{{My dog won’t even use it because of the Anti Bush hate message that it prints.}}

Obviously some 29% cult members have also brainwashed their dogs! Poor doggie — must be h3ll living with brainwashed cult members!

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

In the Long Run, the answer is certainly not to the leftist media, or Moveon.ugly. How about Fox News, hey hey? Seriously simply listen to all the voices, and then use your common sense to discern the truth. You do have common sense?

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

To quote King Arthur in ‘The Holy Grail,‘“You’re a looney!!”

You wouldn’t know a fatalist if they peed on your leg!

Go back with the rest of the 25 percenters.

Better yet, ENLIST is you love Cheney’s christo-fascist war so much!!

And, just like Cheney, you don’t have the guts!!!

Pendeho!!

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Better yet, ENLIST if…

By Cindy

April 16, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Truthman,

That is a very strong statement by General John J. Sheehan (RET). I think it hits the nail on the head. Most Americans backed the Taliban/Al Qaida attack in Afghanistan. Only fewer backed the Iraqi invasion because of the misinformation provided to the American people. Eventually, the evil intent and total mismanagement of this administration sunk in to the average American.

Where would we be today if this administration had competence in leadership?

It is not about Iraq as much as it is about how poorly the administration performed: first, on the failed methodolgy used in accumulating, filtering and verifying intelligence about Iraq: second, on the failure to plan for any event in Iraq other than the citizens spreading Palm leaves on the road of the US miltary: third, in its insistence to “stay the course” when the course wasn’t working which included keeping Rumsfeld. Only when the Democrats took control of Congress did we get rid of Rumsfeld and begin new planning. (Why did it take 3 1/2 years to look for a better plan?): fourth on its abuse and misuse of the US military (Why put them in a war-like situation without top intelligence, top equipment, top training and top leadership): finally in its total failure to be honest to the American people. Yes, regardless of what some believe, this administration LIED to the American people and the evidence of this is much stronger than that used to invade Iraq.

Those who defend the administration on their “errors”, don’t understand the information available or the basic requirements of a “Leader”. They just blindly follow the worthless, destructive neo-con agenda.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

check out this link about the Berger non-story

The wingnuts have beat that horse into dust, yet that doesn’t stop them.

And look at where the article appeared - hardly a bastion for leftist thinking.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

For all those who support the slaughter and genocide for oil:

May God have mercy on your souls.

Peace.

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Just like I thought Libs do not have intellects, only emotions ripe for manipulation.

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Just like I thought, Libs do not have intellects, only emotions ripe for manipulation.

By @@

April 16, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Would somebody please tell me that Obama didn’t say this:

Clouds Part for Obama’s Appearance

(((TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Presidential hopeful Barack Obama strode on stage Sunday for a fundraising event hours after a series of powerful thunderstorms raked the city. “We were feeling a little worried,” Obama told a crowd of about 2,000 who waited in strong, blustery winds to hear him speak. “The sun is shining on me, that’s what’s going on.”)))

“THE SUN IS SHINING ON ME, THAT’S WHAT’S GOING ON”?????????????????

Oh, puhleeeeeze.

Has he annointed himself with a “halo” or something?

By Dusty

April 16, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Aww Goldie,

You haven’t said anything new in months. Why don’t you and Getalife go on a picnic or something and give us a break?

We KNOW you don’t like Bush or Iraq or the troops or Republicans. We know. We know. Cut-n-run, cut-n-run, cut-n-run…..dum de dum dum….

By getalife

April 16, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Thanks Midori.

Figures, case closed.

Well, they still global warming, for now.

It would seem that after they have being dead wrong about everything, they would admit it and go away until something positive happens for their party.

But, they blame the liberals.

Kooky cult.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

That WSJ op ed only talks about ONE aspect of the story - whether the classified documents he stole and destroyed had notes in the margins.

How you can call the whole Berger document theft a “non-story” while foaming at the mouth over the completely legal firing of prosecutors illustrates your confused, feverish thinking.

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

Thanks for the kudos.

Sheehan knows the geo-political mess the Chimperor created and knows which side of history he wants to be on - the correct side!!

@@, The Chimperor says he’s spoken directly with god!

Who is delusional there?

By getalife

April 16, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Well @@,

I would be worried if he said God told him to occupy Iraq .

Geez.

By @@

April 16, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Joe:

(((By Joe Right April 16, 2007 10:28 AM)))

(((Just like I thought, Libs do not have intellects, only emotions ripe for manipulation.)))

That ^^^ is the TRUTH MAN!!!!!

Psychology 101!!!!

I’m off to work.

May the sun shine on you ALL today.

Not JUST Obama.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

The sun shone all around Ga. Tech this past Saturday when Sen. Obama was onstage!

By Not Dull

April 16, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Rabbits Block Traffic in Hungary

BUDAPEST, Hungary — Five thousand rabbits blocked a highway Monday, tying up traffic after the truck that was carrying them collided with another vehicle and overturned. Neither driver was hurt, but some 500 rabbits were killed, authorities said.

It is Clinton’s fault!

By getalife

April 16, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

BD,

Calm down.

Do not go off like you did yesterday.

You are wrong again but you should be use to it by now.

Case closed, deleted email scandal just opened.

Focus on the now and relax. It will be okay.

Geez.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Look at this interesting article about where Fox Noise viewers rank in having “knowledge” of the news:

Pew Survey Finds Most Knowledgeable Americans Watch ‘Daily Show’ and ‘Colbert’— and Visit Newspaper Sites

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Cindy,

I can agree with you that this administration made mistakes based on faulty intelligence as a result of being gutted, and rendered blind and dumb from years of Democratic undermining. But setting that aside, when you start spouting the left wing talking points then you totally destroy any possibility of bipartishanship right along with your Democratic leaders which all they care about is regaining power at all costs, even if it puts the nation in jeopardy, yourself included.

By Walt

April 16, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 16, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

biga01 - I will remind you that during the American Revolution we were also led by George Washington and George Mason. It seems that George W. Bush is in good company.”

With George Washington on one end of the scale and Hitler on the other, Bush is a lot closer to Hitler than Washington.

Walt

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Damn this unreliable AJC server! I posted a response to In the Long Run, Getalife and Truthiman but it never appeared. I’ll try to reconstruct it.

Getaclue,

I have not had anything approaching a “meltdown”. The buck stops WHERE for WHAT?

A phony issue about the pefectly legal but inelegantly handled, firing of U.S. attorneys?

Following the Hatch Act and separating political emails from official White House emails?

This babbling is a sure sign of a “meltdown” to me:

{{{rules wooten’s blog so bad that he decided to post on Obama. I can’t get past the fact that Obama campaigned for Lieberman because Joe is with the gop.}}

It’s very Rosie-esqe. Try standing on your head and take some aspirin.

In the Long Run,

Al Sadr, a murderous gangster thug “spiritual leader”, demands that our troops withdraw and you agree with him?

Half a dozen henchmen from Al Sadr’s mob resign from Parliament and you’re agitated?

Whose side are you on in this conflict?

Truthiman,

Of course I don’t think that Sheehan is unpatriotic. If he joined Michael Moore in Cuba, or starting spouting Ward Churhill’s hate-America propaganda I’d have a different opinion.

I do question his reasoning, particularly since he never provides anything approaching a solution himself.

He does admit this – which Getalife won’t like:

{{{There has to be linkage between short-term operations and strategic objectives that represent long-term U.S. and regional interests, such as assured access to energy resources* and support for stable, Western-oriented countries.}}}

*Assured access to energy resources is what Getalife calls “kook code” for oil.

Yep, like water, the world needs it. C’est la vie.

By Truthsayer

April 16, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Walt - when you compare ANY American leader to Hitler or Stalin, you lose your argument completely. You just sound juvenile. I will remind you that all of our William s - Harrision, McKinley, Taft and Clinton have been mediocre at best, but none have been “the Conqueror” either.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Oh BD,

You should not have reposted that garbage.

Allow me again to try to help you.

The buck stops with w. Period.

Its not a conflict, it is slaughter and genocide for oil.

May God have mercy on your soul.

By Economist

April 16, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

For all of you Bush haters out there - unemployment is a 4.5%, historically the lowest in over a decade and historically rock bottom. The stock market is up 90 points at this moment. Retail sales were up a strong .7% over last Easter. Despite rising oil prices, the economy is BOOMING. I am sure you will come up with a bunch of phony crap to try to counter these very strong economic indicators, but the facts are facts. And just think you would like to ruin it all by raising taxes on the rich (anyone who makes over $80,000)!

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Joe Right,

This phrase from Cindi’s manifesto is where she completely loses credibility and veers into moonbat territory.

{{{Eventually, the evil intent and total mismanagement of this administration sunk in to the average American.}}}

Evil intent?

It must have something to do with Haliburton.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Getaclue,

Please don’t make me go back to Wooten’s to find your incoherent babblings from yesterday and make me post them here.

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

getalife - If this were a genocide over oil, we would be doing the killing. We are not. We also would be keeping all of the oil revenue and our domestic price would be lower, and it is not. Getalife - get one.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Economist,

I would love to believe numbers but I do not.

Its the credibility problem so I hope you understand that after the lies, it is hard to believe anything they spew.

The Dems want to cut taxes on the middle class and that is a good thing.

By Economist

April 16, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

getalife - these are all independent figures reported publicly. The stock market is especially an independent indicator. Also, Bush has NOT lied about the economy. Clinton did during the 2000 campaign, even as the stock market was trending lower. And $80,000 is middle class. I also remember Clinton promising a middle class tax cut and then raising taxes for EVERYBODY. The Democrats will do the same again. They do not understand or choose to ignore dynamic scoring. They do not understand the law of diminishing returns.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

liarman,

Occupying Iraq is causing the killing.

As far as gas prices, big oil dictates that policy.

BTW, they just metered their oil so we do not know where it went.

The oil law was written by big oil.

Allow me to help you analyze this oil law

Please use the google before you spew because it looks like you have no clue.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Economist,

You seem bias towards the gop.

Post some links for me.

Thanks.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

John J. Sheehan, USMC General ret. was asked if he would want his name considered for the job of “War Czar”. He said, no. In todays Washington Post he writes why he declined. He said: 1)The US Government does not have a single strategic view of the Iraq War. And, 2) The US does not have a larger view for the region. There you have it. No plan. No ideas. No larger view.

By Economist

April 16, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

getalife - I’m not used to posting links on blogs, but the sources are, msn homepage, CNN, ABC, Wall Street Journal online and Fox. The stock market quote is the latest. Right now nasdaq is showing up 90.85. nasdaq is also showing the same economic data.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Economist,

Allow me

Looks like the rich can afford taxes.

I am invested so I know the stock market numbers.

By Economist

April 16, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

getalife - it depends on how you define rich. Very soon AMT is going to be charged to all people with incomes over $70 to $80 thousand. Those folks are not rich. It is also wrong to make a judgment about what people can “afford”. It is not the government’s money. The government does not earn anything. Individuals earn, make, produce. They sould be allowed to keep it and spend it as they wish. The government even makes it difficult to give it away. All of that is just being elitist and silly to say “the rich can afford it.”

By Paul

April 16, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Well, lots of comments on General Sheehan’s critique. Question: when, in the past thirty years, have we had the kind of unified policy towards the Middle East he laments not now having? When did the generals with whom he served - those now retired - put forth such overarching advice? When did DoD, let alone State, propose what he wants?

I’d really like to know of any - rather than portraying this “revelation” as a situation that’s just come to pass in the last six years.

After the answers to the historical questions, I’d really like to know which candidates (without the advantage of the State/DoD bureaucracy) have such a vision they’d like to share?

More than my vote’s hanging in the balance. Saying “Bush bad” won’t guarantee votes for Democratic candidates - Rudy, Thompson, etc may just elucidate positions that leave Edwards, Hillary or Obama stuck flatfooted.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

gal: Here is the right-wing model: Borrow from Asia for war. Flood corporate pals with cash. Give the tab to the Middle Class. The fact that a few of us might have an investment account is neither here nor there. Government mismanagement under Bush is epic. The dollar is in the toilet. Things are going to get much, much worse. What is the Bush plan for the economy?

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Economist,

The tax breaks for the rich are not necessary. We are talking the top 1% here man.

I think it is obvious that the middle class would benefit from tax breaks not the top 1%.

Its a no brainer.

Your unemployment numbers are crap because they are based on those in the system and do not factor those who ran out of uneployment and not in the system.

Our government uses old accounting numbers and the deficit is higher than you think. We borrow this money from communist China and other countries.

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Get a Life, You have great imagination, too bad it has been corrupted by the dark side. You need to check into facts rehab.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Paul: We have been at war for the past four years. General Sheehan was considering the post. He then inquired of the Bush government of the plan for Iraq. That seems reasonable enough. Would you agree? He couldn’t find anyone in our government with a single strategic view of the war!

By Dusty

April 16, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Do you liberals ever read what has been posted BEFORE you make your comments?

@9:14 Truthman wants to talk about General John Sheehan and gives a link.

@10:23 Cindy wants to talk about (Who else??) General John Sheehan etc. etc.

@ 11:22 (Surprise!!) Daniel wants to tell us about General John Sheehan!

Of course, General John Sheehan does not like the Iraq War. Now that he is retired he knows EVERYTHING that should have been done. That excites liberals. They finally found a LIBERAL general!! Whoopee!!! Let’s repeat that. Now what’s that general’s name again???

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Daniel,

Bush’s plan is the same.

Corporate representation.

No taxation without representation.

But the “economist” believes in taxation without representation.

He or she must be in this top 1% or just another blind, gullible, member of the gop.

Geez.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

((((A phony issue about the pefectly legal but inelegantly handled, firing of U.S. attorneys?)))))

Last time I looked, and I may be wrong, but I don’t think it’s “perfectly legal” to fire U.S. attorneys who didn’t go after Democrats on trumped up charges of “voter fraud”.

and this WH knows all about fraud.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Joe mama,

Just the facts man.

A real no spin zone, if you will.

Do you have a post you disagree with or just a strawman about me?

By Midori

April 16, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

((((Of course, General John Sheehan does not like the Iraq War. Now that he is retired he knows EVERYTHING that should have been done.))))

well, for some reason, that idiot in the WH wanted to put him in charge of this “war”.

the guy must know “something”, eh?

By Dusty

April 16, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Your post about THE general came up while I was posting mine. Didn’t mean to get going along the same lines.

getalife,

taxation without representation!! How original!! Why don’t you have a party and throw some tea bags into Boston Harbor?

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Midori: “Bubbles” Bush can’t find any one who wants to be his whipping boy.

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty,

We try, but we have to wade through so much neo-con verbal masturbation, it’s hard to know who posted what and when.

Hope that ‘splains it, Lucy!

By Ann

April 16, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Absolutely wonderful. I love this. Sadly, it is so true.

I can’t wait for all of our wonderful troops to be home, safe and sound.

By Dusty

April 16, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Truthman @ 12:07

Go wash your mouth out. Some people can debate without being disgusting. You are not one of them.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Well, well. I always knew that liberals couldn’t bear to read a point of view that didn’t match their world view, but you seldom see them admit it the way Truth?man did at 12:07.

By Walt

April 16, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

“Former Marine Corps General John Sheehan on why he declined to become The Chimperor’s latest toadie!!”

It’s great to see so many Marines involved in seeking a valid way forward.

Zinni, Newbold (Operations officer for the JCS in 2003), Sheehan, Webb, And Murtha.

That is a damn good group.

And General Mattis did a great job in Iraq in 2003.

Walt

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

gal: What happened to the discussion on economics? The minute you raise the “Borrow and Spend” Bush policy everyone takes a powder. The “Knuckleheads” love no taxes. 8 trillion in debt is a “tax” on our future. If the right-wing had to pay for war right now and “invest” one of their children; the war would be over in 30 days!

By Walt

April 16, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

“What are we asking our kids to die for? Why are we there? What is the long term strategy for the region?”

Keep it in a constant roil for the benefit of Israel.

That is the only thing that makes any sense.

The war is going GREAT if you are:

Israel

Halliburton

Karl Rove.

For them, it’s been a rousing success.

Walt

By DawgBite

April 16, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

By S Z

April 16, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

No, I am a free thinker, I have my own ideas and thoughts. For example, I will never purchase the AJC. My dog won’t even use it because of the Anti Bush hate message that it prints. Think what you want, I can take anything you dish out. Just remember this. I live and work over 50 miles outside Atlanta, When the terrorist hit Atlanta, I will be safe and sound, you on the other hand might not be so lucky. When that time comes, maybe you will be thinking, Maybe Bush was right.

Hey Chicken Little! You stand a greater chance of winning Powerball, being struck by lightning, or drowning in the bathtub than you do of EVER being the victim of a terrorist you moron. Keep drinking the kool-aid imbecile.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

ROFL!!

Coulter’s Number 80!!

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

{{The stock market is up 90 points at this moment.}}

Don’t we all love to hear news from the “economists” who are claiming all these positive talking points from the RNC, but always FAIL to mention who profits from the stock market (and it ain’t the middle or lower classes in America, and the TRILLION $$$ budget deficit that will take several miracles to overcome.

Americans used to be able to depend on the Repugs to keep the financial books in balance and order, but that’s no longer the case… not with this Neo-Con administration that doesn’t know how to veto any of its party’s spending bills!

By Walt

April 16, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

“Question: when, in the past thirty years, have we had the kind of unified policy towards the Middle East he laments not now having?”

Clinton’s policy was very effective.

Saddam’s regime almost collapsed in 1998.

Walt

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Even the few remaining intelligent Repugs know that America is in trouble and that W’s administration is the worstest ever:

That’s not the promise of America my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I’ve had enough. How about you? I’ll go a step further. You can’t call yourself a patriot if you’re not outraged. This is a fight I’m ready and willing to have.

By Dusty

April 16, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Daniel@12:23

Do you think that all the troops in Iraq are liberal Democrats? That the right-wing has no “investments” in Iraq?

I have a conservative friend who is a professional (PhD) in his field. He has two sons serving in the military in Iraq. Maybe you would like to tell him how he has no “investments” there.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

{{Midori: “Bubbles” Bush can’t find any one who wants to be his whipping boy.}}

Daniel and Midori— I think it says a lot when our supposed “commander in chief” is looking for someone else to do the job — W obviously can’t do it!

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Goldie: No one can name the last republican president to balance a budget. The Bush economy makes sense to the very, very rich and others who like to play: “Make Believe”. America is like a drunk on a weekend bender with someone else’s credit card. Mark my word, we are going to get nailed. We cannot keep up the irresponsible reckless borrow and spend Bush economy. We look more like Argentina every day. The debate is not: conservative vs. liberal. No, that is not the debate. The debate is incompetent vs. competent. Ask Robert Novak.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Goldie dear,

Would you please provide a source for your claim that we have a multi trillion $$$ budget deficit?

Thank you in advance!

Bonus question: Do you know anyone that has a 401K and is among those you consider middle or lower class?

By Truthman

April 16, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Dusty, in the words of you beloved leader, “Dick” Cheney,

“Go Fvck yourself!”

P.S. to getalife: Someone has stolen my nom de plume. That was not I rebuking you at 11:03. Some immature neo-conman or woman is afraid to post under their own ID.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

{{{{{Saddam’s regime almost collapsed in 1998.}}}}}

Now that’s a high mark for a successful plan if I ever heard one. /sarc

Did somebody forget to email you libs with your talking points this morning? Your attempts at freelancing are hysterical.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Yes, Goldie.

those generals know the deal - the morons in the WH is just looking for someone else to blame.

That’s all this guy has done from day one — remember the missing “w’s”?

This gang of retards came into office pointing fingers and lying thru their teeth.

By Walt

April 16, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

“By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

{{{{{Saddam’s regime almost collapsed in 1998.}}}}}

Now that’s a high mark for a successful plan if I ever heard one. /sarc”

Yes, it is. A very high mark. It was brought about without -one- US KIA, or even a WIA.

Saddam was no threat to us 5 years later because of good CLinton policies.

We know that because the Office of the VP had to manuafacture a reason to go to war from whole cloth.

Walt

By getalife

April 16, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

RW,

Here ya go

No problem Truthman.

Daniel,

They always cut and run when they see reality.

Its a damn shame because they had faith and believed w would not lie but it is all he does.

A good question to ask the candidates is how do they plan on getting credibility back after all the lies?

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

America under Bush reminds me of Anna Nicole Smith. All T&A with a belly full of drugs. Everything for the camera and the elevator doesn’t go to the top floor. Eleven seperate drugs to prop up a desperately depressed miserable sad sack. Yet, she loved the camera and it her. Until, she died.

By candide

April 16, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Dear Troops in Iraq:

The most effective thing you can do is to shoot your officers and return home. That will save America from disaster.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Oh OK Walt, thanks for clearing all that up.

Too bad Clinton only almost stopped Bin Laden too, but I’m sure that was due to his sound policy. 3K+ killed at work for that sound policy.

It must have been his sound domestic policy that kept us from going into a depression during his last budget year. Good thing his sound policy only put us in a recession.

Good thing he stopped lil Kim from building nukes too. It’s a really sound policy to let a dictator walk all over and leave the problem for your successor.

I guess I’m just looking at these things wrong.

By Walt

April 16, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

“By candide

April 16, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Dear Troops in Iraq:

The most effective thing you can do is to shoot your officers and return home. That will save America from disaster.”

There could hardly be a worse idea than that.

Of course, the country is looking more and more like a banana republic, so maybe that is the normal progession.

Walt

By Paul

April 16, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Daniel 10:50

I think it may be more accurate to say there is not a generally accepted, integrated view. Pockets likely exist, but as far as a policy adopted at the top - it’s missing, according to General Sheehan’s view.

My main point was that there are a few peculiarities with the Iraq situation, but overall mideast, the view of the region (we can democratize them - a people to whom their religion does everything possible to quash equality?) - overall, aside from “keep a stable supply of oil” - we haven’t seen anything for decades.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

getalife or Big Gal as Danny the Nazi would say,

That is NOT the budget deficit.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Ooops wrong link

Pay as you go helps.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

April 16, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

-=-

LOL @ Midori Coulter post.

Hmmm - Ann? Andy? — Hey! Could Ann Coulter actually be Andy? I mean that swedish sex change operation and all…And they both foam at the mouth alike!

Oh Andy! (Can you say “desalinization?”)

Yeah that’s great if your near the ocean, but useless if you are deep inland. I mean how can you keep a million toilets flushing if you have to truck in the water from the ocean-side desalination plants?

Oh and rising sea levels will make our underground fresh water (of the water table), into salty underground water. Now try and grow food crops in salt water contaminated land. Yeah I want to see the desalination of our national water tables. Start with the ones already becoming an issue in the swamps on Georgia’s coast.

-=-

Economist. Your figures are flawed right from the start. Especially concerning un-employment. Recently it has been proven that un-employment records are way out of sync with the actual number of people un-employed. Some of the causes for this are large numbers of Illegal Immigrants employed and at the same time using falsified (identity theft) paperwork for their employment. Also people that have gone past their un-employment benefits, and are no longer in the books, yet still remain without a job. Not to mention many other factors.

The interesting point on this statement you made - (“Despite rising oil prices, the economy is BOOMING.”)

That is actually “because of rising oil prices” (and inflation) the economy appears to be booming. With higher inflated prices, there are more tax dollars being gained as a percentage of that higher gas cost, and of course those corporations (and only those corporations) show record incomes.

But that does not mean that the economy of our society itself is booming. No indeed - as the average person and household economy is not listed on those stock markets you get your grand figures from. Just those players in big business that have a very lopsided surplus of money are in those figures. If you went on figures of average family incomes versus inflation you would see we are in a totally un-balanced and non-booming national economy.

(gone for the day now - so have fun everyone - and be good)

Thomas/PNAC

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Two America’s:

Well, John Edwards’ campaign for president spent $400 on February 20, and another $400 on March 7, at a top Beverly Hills men’s stylist, Torrenueva Hair Designs.

A 400 dollar haircut, what, is he a fa-g?

Ooops, there I go again.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

As far as investments go, check out alternative energy.

Silicon valley is going ahead full speed on this and if you look at Clinton’s surplus, green energy is the new internet boon.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

You may want to hurry up and provide us with the link to the TRILLIONS of $$$’s budget deficit. Your little friend, GAL, is making you look dumber than you do on your own.

By Economist

April 16, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

getalife - you seem to forget that the top 1% of taxpayers already pay 40% of the income taxes. The top 50% of wage earners pay 95% of the income taxes. This is the middle class. The bottom 50% pays only 5% of the income taxes now, lower than at any time in history. However, they earn 26% of the income. We are being more than fair with the people of this country as far as income taxes go. However, we are being unfair with Social Security. That is a ponsy scheme which has been looted by both parties to buy votes with the federal treasury. If all money were put into private interest bearing accounts, even minimum wage earners (2% of the workforce) would retire as millionaires after 40 years. Your ideas seem to be predicated on the government knowing what is best for everyone. For someone who rails against the Republicans, I don’t see how you think that the Democrats would run things any better. You seem to be blinded by partisanship and personal hatred rather than being open minded and ready to look at the facts.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

OK Right Wingnut.

By RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

GAL,

Your graph link does clearly illustrate we need people like Newt in office.

Gingrich 08!!

Later! I’ve got to get to a very windy charity golf outing. For you libs, charity means voluntarily giving of yourself to help someone in need. It doesn’t even require your almighty government.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Ah man economist,

You lost me at your Social Security bs…….

Have you not learned anything about your gop?

Keep your greedy hands off of Social Security.

Wall Street does not need the help.

Your corporate utopia world has ended with the Dem majority.

Geez, you are a full blown wingnut.

By Economist

April 16, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

getalife - your reply says it all about your attitude concerning your willingness to look at the facts.

Thomas - I know you said you are gone, but the fact is, I don’t know where you get yours. If what you said were true, then the economy under old Jimmy Carter would have been booming rather than stagnant. Our core inflation rate is still very low. You can look that up. Also, you are in a weird way right about unemployment (one word) figures. They probably are wrong, but in the opposite way of what you say. We actually have many more people employed than the figures show because of the underground economy which our tax system has encouraged to flourish. The fact is, if one wishes to have a job, then one can find one in today’s market.

By Dusty

April 16, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Truthman@12:44

You really are disgusting. I guess you have a whole vocabulary of “choice” words you would like to use or quote here to show your brilliance.

I think Cheney’s words were inappropriate. But he has to put up with the mendacious moves of liberal politicians and media which makes it a little more understandable if not palatable.

Cheney is trying to help run this country under directed and almost constant duress. You are simply posting under a pseudo name on a political blog.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Paul: I have always felt the “Democracy in the region” argument was pablum, at best; and an insult to the Turks, at worst. It is also destined to failure. Many saw the “few peculiarities” you speak of. George H.W. Bush saw them. So did Brent Scowcroft. Whatever “image of the week” Bush/Rove will spin; we are failing. The operative descriptive adjective for Bush is now: Incompetent. After four years, 500 Billion dollars of borrowed money, and near 4000 dead; our government has no plan, no ideas, and no strategy. It’s over.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Good for you RW.

Markus said it was too cold to play tennis yesterday. LOL.

Ghetto Newt came up with the “war czar”.

nuff said.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

{{For you libs, charity means voluntarily giving of yourself to help someone in need.}}

You’re a real @ss, RW.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

“War czar” — now wouldn’t that just look great to have on your resume’? Only a Neo-con Repug would think the term sounds positive.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Are you talking about this?

Actually, Dick started a new catch phrase.

Family values and all that crap.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

The Economist,

Speaking of the top 1% obsession, this is an interesting OP ED from WSJ.

In recent years, an increasingly huge share of the investment income of middle-income savers is accruing inside 401(k), IRA and 529 college-savings plans and is therefore invisible in tax return data. In the 1970s, by contrast, such investment income was usually taxable, so it appears in the Piketty-Saez estimates for those years. Comparing tax returns between the 1970s and recent years greatly understates the actual gain in middle incomes, and thereby contributes to the exaggeration of top income shares…The incessantly repeated claim that income inequality has widened dramatically over the past 20 years is founded entirely on these seriously flawed and greatly misunderstood estimates of the top 1%’s alleged share of something-or-other.

We’re still waiting to hear if Goldie knows anyone who has a 401 K with investments in the evil stock market (or 306 B for that matter).

Later folks…

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

It’s too bad that Miffed Romney has yet to enjoy a hunting trip with our straight-shooting VP.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

w is the failed “war czar” looking for someone to blame.

Where does the buck stop again?

Geez.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

On second thought General Clark would make a great war czar.

He knows how to win a war.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Daniel 1:24

Just read an article today - Turkish demonstrations over the greater influence if Islamists. Gov’t tried to be “nice” give them a greater voice, the people were not pleased. Now that is what I’d call progress. Same with many elements in Iran - but how to deal with them?

We’ll have to rethink this entire concept of “assimilation” - as I think we’re dealing with a people who aren’t interested in assimilation. It’d be good for American interests if Iraq (some form of a representative government) succeeded, but the current read is it’s a longshot, I think.

Who did I read - Hillary? - talking about American forces will be in the region for a long time. That is if we follow the same path that got us where we are today (Bosnia sound familiar? Do we ever leave anyplace we intervene?). I’d love to hear some serious “out of the box” thinking from a candidate but I’m not holding my breath.

I’ll check back in this evening -

Later -

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Conservatism has traditionally meant lean, small effective government. It has meant diligence in effort and economy in execution. I.e. Finding the most effective least expensive solution. This is lost on the incompetent Bush. Yes, he has funneled borrowed pork money to the right-wing churches and corporate allies. He has exploded the size of government with cronies and hacks. How is this conservative?

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Paul: Mustafa Kemal is the father of modern Trukey. After the First War he established a secular Turkey. In fact, he is called: “Attaturk: which means “Father of the Turks”. The demonstration in Ankara was against the increasing influence of Islam in the country. Traditionally, the military has sided with the secularists. “How to deal with them?” First, we need to establish a competent government. Republican or democrat, America needs talent at the top. Something decidely, we have not had! As with most of the world, we have blown it in Turkey. The lack of a coherent strategy in the Middle East is seen in our relationship with Turkey. What is the plan? Who is in charge? Will a resurgent Kurdistan threaten Turkey? What does the president think?

By getalife

April 16, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

A message from Obama

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

Get a life, please. Let’s put it this way. I disagree with every one of your posts, but I don’t have the time to straighten you out on each one, others are doing a great job at it already. I just make pithy comments.

By Shawny

April 16, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Leave Hedburgh in goal for game 3.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

What are we going to do about the terrorists we have to deal with here in America? You know, those teenagers and crazy people who load up their guns and go on shooting rampages in our schools and malls — what can we do about those terrorists?

By Walt

April 16, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 16, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Walt - when you compare ANY American leader to Hitler or Stalin, you lose your argument completely.”

I didn’t compare Hitler and Bush.

You need to read better.

Bush is certainly the worst public figure in the history of the country - worse than Jefferson Davis even.

Walt

By Walt

April 16, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

“y RW-(the original)

April 16, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Oh OK Walt, thanks for clearing all that up.

Too bad Clinton only almost stopped Bin Laden too, but I’m sure that was due to his sound policy. 3K+ killed at work for that sound policy.”

The 9/11 Commission Report showed conclusively that the Bush Administration did -nothing-at-all to forestall Al Qaeda prior to 9/11.

Bush has done nothing -effective- since 9/11 to foretall Al Qaeda.

Recall that the headline on 9/10/01 was Rumsfeld wanting more money for — missile defense.

Bush has been a grotesque disaster for this country and shame on you for your lack of awareness and lack of citizenship.

Walt

By steve-o

April 16, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Interesting, but yet inconsequential point. Don’t you think individuals in the far upper-income brackets also have a sizeable portion of their investment incomes locked up in different funds, thus nullifying your and the WSJ Op-Ed hypothesis?

By Dumb Foxsuckers

April 16, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

NEW YORK A new survey of 1,502 adults released Sunday by Pew Research Center for the People & the Press found that despite the mass appeal of the Internet and cable news since a previous poll in 1989, Americans’ knowledge of national affairs has slipped a little. For example, only 69% know that Dick Cheney is vice president, while 74% could identify Dan Quayle in that post in 1989.

Other details are equally eye-opening. Pew judged the levels of knowledgeability (correct answers) among those surveyed and found that those who scored the highest were regular watchers of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show and Colbert Report. They tied with regular readers of major newspapers in the top spot — with 54% of them getting 2 out of 3 questions correct. Watchers of the Lehrer News Hour on PBS followed just behind.

Virtually bringing up the rear were regular watchers of Fox News. Only 1 in 3 could answer 2 out of 3 questions correctly. Fox topped only network morning show viewers.

Told that Shia was one group of Muslims struggling in Iraq, only 32% of the total sample could name “Sunni” as the other key group.

The percentage of those who knew their state’s governor dropped to 2 in 3. Almost half know that Rep. Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House and 2 in 3 know that Condi Rice is secretary of state. But just 29% can identify Scooter Libby, 21% know Robert Gates and 15% can name Sen. Harry Reid.

But nearly 9 in 10 knew about President Bush’s troop escalation in Iraq.

Men scored higher than women, and older Americans did better than younger, on average. Democrats and Republicans were about equally represented in the most knowledgeable group but there were more Republicans in the least aware group.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Joe mama.

Got a life.

You can’t straighten out the facts man, that is called spin or lies.

Thanks for that post but it is not about me.

Please debate my posts if you disagree and have a nice day.

Geez, freaking wingnuts.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

They have wingnuts in India too.

Lets give them our jobs and nukes for mangos.

Geez.

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Hey get a life, please.

How’s yo mama?

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Anti Radical April 16, 2007 9:26 AM The radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his followers in the Cabinet to abandon their posts on Monday. Republicans are enslaving the Iraqi people in a welfare state. In the long run, no good will come form it.}}}}

Spammie: I’m going to break this to you as gently as possible, I don’ know any other way to put this, but Mookie is, like, you know, the enemy.

I know you Al Qaeda groupies long for an Iraqi government infested with Shiite stooges of Iran, but that would be counter productive to freedom and democracy.

So maybe you should pis-s off, no?

You libs are going to lose this war no matter what.

Get used to it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

So, the Iraq government is now the enemy.

Wow, we have come full circle.

What do you want to do now Andy?

Regime change again?

Sigh, huh, geeeeeez.

By Walt

April 16, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

“I know you Al Qaeda groupies long for an Iraqi government infested with Shiite stooges of Iran, but that would be counter productive to freedom and democracy.

So maybe you should pis-s off, no?

You libs are going to lose this war no matter what.”

All this was predicted.

“The possibility of the United States winning the war but losing the peace is real and serious,” they wrote in a lapel-grabbing tone that was an unusual departure for government experts giving their bosses unwelcome advice….”

They specifically advised against the two major steps that Ambassador L. Paul Bremer III would pursue in 2003 after being named to run the U.S. ocupation. The Iraqi army should be kept intact because it could serve as a unifying force in a country that could fall apart under U.S. control….they likewise were explicit in warning against the sort of top-down “de-Baathification” that Bremer would mandate.”

— Army War College study, 12/10/2002

“Fiasco” by Thomas Ricks, p. 72

Walt

By Midori

April 16, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Christ!!

who let Andy out of his cage?

By Walt

April 16, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

More from “Fiasco”:

“Newsweek columnist Fareed Zakaria, another thoughtful writer who had been an Iraq hawk, wrote in the Magazine’s May 17, 2004, issue that George W. Bush’s “strange combination of arrogance and incompetence” had proven “poisonous” for American foreign policy. “On almost every issue involving postwar Iraq — troop strength, international support, the credibility of exiles, de-Baathification, handling Ayatollah Ali Sistani — Washington’s assumptions and policies have been wrong,” he charged.”

p. 380

“All but the most blindly devoted Bush suppporters can see that the Bush Administration officials have no clue about that to do in Iraq tomorrow, much less a month from now,” wrote Robert Kagan, a prominent neoconservative intellectual.”

p. 381

“Gen. Meyers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, insisted that “great progress” was being made on all fronts in Iraq. “I think we are on the brink of success,” he told the House Armed Services Committee.”

p. 386

That was 2 1/2 years ago.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Members of the 29% club believe that all Iraqis are “terrorists” and that’s part of the reason why they’re so confused about who our enemies are.

It’s like they’re bipolar or something. One week, al-Maliki is a good guy in the Iraqi gov’t and we have to stay there to support him, and then the next week, al-Maliki is a “Shiite stooge of Iran”.

So, I ask again: who are our American forces fighting for in Iraq, the Sunnis and Saudi Arabia, or the Shiites and Iran???

It’s shameful how this cult has taken over the reasoning capability of 29% of Americans’ brains…

By Goldie's a dumbass

April 16, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Mookie=Muqtada al Sadr.

Go see if you can find your brain Goldie girl if you ever had one to begin with.

By Swiftvoter

April 16, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

“The president believes that there is a right for people to bear arms, but that all laws must be followed,” spokeswoman Dana Perino said………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

By Walt

April 16, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

It’s funny how back in 1991 we couldn’t depose Saddam because Iraq was the cork in the bottle of radical Iranian extremism, but when Saddam started subsidizing the families of suicide bombers who struck inside Israel, it suddenly became a good time to take him out, regardless of the damage to the strategic position and repuation of the United States.

Walt

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 16, 2007 3:10 PM So, the Iraq government is now the enemy.}}}

Umm, government?:

The radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr urged Iraqi forces to stop cooperating with the United States and told his guerrilla fighters to concentrate their attacks on American troops rather than Iraqis, according to a statement issued Sunday.

This Mookie guy is a preacher, haha, in the real world, you libs would have no problem at all manning up against him.

You’re not very picky choosing allies in your war against Bush, are you?

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Oh, and BTW Dull— the liberals have not and will not “lose this war no matter what”, because this WAR IS ALL YOURS, you big blob of protoplasm!

All the lies and rhetoric to promote YOUR WAR on Sept. 12th, and you’re the ones who’ve made every mistake in Iraq that could’ve possibly been made, by your own stupidity and arrogance, and thereby ensuring your own legacy in losing this war.

And you’re a big blob of a Bush-kisser, too, you jerk!

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Mookie-lover, who do you think put al-Maliki into the Iraqi gov’t with his majority, hmmmm? You dumb@ss.

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Something you clueless may want to think about:

{{{Maliki has also given the green light to a crackdown on Shiite militias and death squads, serving notice that the war of the sectarians must end. Within the next few weeks, he is expected to further anger Tehran by dropping from his Cabinet all five Sadrist ministers, who are beholden to the Iranian regime.}}}

We’re kicking your as-s.

You are going to lose.

Get used to it.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

One could go on with the furor over the misdirected pellets from Dick Cheney’s shotgun, or the clamor for the Rumsfeld resignation. Yet contrast all this hysteria with the slight whimpers surrounding recent controversies over conflicts of interest or lapses in judgment surrounding Richard Armitage, Harry Reid, or Dianne Feinstein. The destruction of federal documents that might well alter history’s consensus by former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger was a snore for most journalists.

Don’t forget Valerie Plame too.

And William Jefferson.

And Filthy Mouth Murtha.

And Blinky Pelosi Traitorous Burqa Tour.

Gosh, we got us a regular Culture of Corruption, so to speak.

Cowards.

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By getalife

April 16, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Poor Andy.

Now, the majority of American people are the enemy.

Geez.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Goldie: They lack the capacity for critical thought. They have bovine adulation for Bush, nothing more. They’re bought and paid for. Bush has funneled Billions of borrowed money to bogus christianity. Can I pay off my Visa with my MasterCard? Bush economy borrows from Peter to pay off Paul. The taxpayer gets the bill and Bush gets slavish fealty from a pack of dimwits.

By mountain man

April 16, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

I once counseled with an adolescent who suffered from a low IQ, an inability to communicate well with others and resolve conflicts, and an “impulse control disorder”. In short, when he was unable to talk things out with his peers, he became frustrated, and resolved his sense of frustration by popping his peers in the head with his considerable fist.

Does this sound like someone else we all know? We have a president who is unable to communicate (take a gander at Letterman’s “great presidential moments), cannot resolve issues with other nations and cultures in a reasonable fashion, and releases his frustration by bombing anyone and everyone whom he deems a threat, no matter what the cost to his country.

You’ve got to give it to the wingnuts. They’ve vociferously defend their fuhrer, no matter what kind of a damn fool he is.

By steve-o

April 16, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

MassenDull,

You tow the line of the conservative establishment like a faithful lemming, but yet you call those who question authority “cowards”.

I also like how you come up with pet names for every Democrat. Let me guess, you were really into collecting Garbage Pail Kids cards back in the day?

By Paul

April 16, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Daniel 1:52

At first when I read “we have to establish a competent government” I read it regarding Turkey and thought, oh no, here we go again with Western rules. Then I saw your point -

I’ll watch during the campain to see who the various candidates bring in as advisors. Based upon the performance of the current administration, that seems appropriate. From what I’ve read, Hillary’s using pretty much Bill retreads. No thanks -

Oh, and regarding the earlier posts about the great, wise and prescient generals who retired under Clinton but advised against war - no kidding! What would be amazing would be a general who advocates war (altho Ramsey Clark did a darn fine job of trying to expand the Bosnian war). Time and again, whether it be war games or counsel, civilians call for war, military (particularly the ground forces) call for restraint. What would have been truly amazing would be if any of them had now gone public and said “yeah, I advocated war but I wanted it done differently.”

Stating the obvious and making it sound extraordinary is quite an accomplishment. Sells books, too.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Oh Andy,

You forgot the best part of Hanson’s drivel:

“What, then, is the one common tie that explains all these furious efforts of the media and partisans to go after these present and former Bush-administration officials?

Payback for Iraq.”

Bush is a victim.

Hahahahaha,

Ah man, that NRO is hilarious.

Bwhahahahaha.

Keep em coming Andy.

That is funny stuff.

Geez, kooky cult.

Where does the buck stop again?

By RE

April 16, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Hey,

The garbage pail kids were funny.

I liked them

By Poor Goldie

April 16, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

When you ask her to add 2+2 she answers

Duh!

instead of Deux.

You really should be embarrassed Goldie girl but I think you’re too stupid to be —embarrassed—.

Sad.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Paul: Turkey is a case study of our incomptence in the Middle East. We have, I think, a golden opportunity to foster a strong, secular independent Turkey. Most Turks follow Islam. They are not Arabs. Baker-Hamilton said we should talk with the nations there. Nancy Pelosi did this. Bush raised the troop levels and went on vacation. Rethink Clinton.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Daniel

I gather you properly inferred from my last post I was referring to General Welsley Clark, not Pres Johnson’s Attorney General.

By the time this posts, there should be a bunch of “ah-ha gotcha !” posts that missed the point entirely -

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Paul: I did. Wes Clark was a favorite of mine in the last election. He is one of those multiple choice candidates. He is a jew, who was raised catholic who took up protestantism later in life. He was a General who served NATO. He was a republican who went democrat when he saw the whack-jobs had hijacked the republican party.

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

I can understand why they call you mountain man. So Ramsey did a good job of trying to expand the Bosnian war under orders from Bill, wag the dog, Clinton? but you accuse Bush of dropping bombs on anyone he considers a threat. You called him a Fuhrer but I don’t see him dropping one on you. Your idol Bill probably would have had you investigated by the IRS and fired from your job if you spoke that way about him.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Thanks, but until I see an explanation of how her (probable) advisors advanced anything in the Middle East (not maintained the status quo, not contained Saddam), let alone saw the looming danger of radical Islamists and had a method of dealing with them other than calling in the FBI and getting a properly issued arrest warrant, I’ll pass.

That administration didn’t work. The current one had good intentions (that’ll spur some apoplexy) but got sidetracked (altho some successes in southwest Asia, choking off funds, etc) so maybe the next person will learn from history. But I don’t really want an advisor from the prior Presidency who wants to reinvent what he did before.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Okay Andy.

Do not go off abd starting posting from kos or wank again.

Be calm, take your meds and listen to this.

Cynthia Ticker just won the Pulitzer for opinion.

Breathe deep.

You okay?

By RE

April 16, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Horrible thing in Virginia today.

Expect a bunch of bad laws come up for consideration, bad events always bring bad laws.

Watch as both sides use the shooting to grandstand, the NRA people will push for MORE guns on campus, the anti-gun people will look for increased measures to screen out gun owners, more extensive background checks, maybe mental competancy.

Supposedly, the guy used 2 nine mil. handguns. If he had an ak or ar15, they would be banned pretty quick.

By mountain man

April 16, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

I expect Dubya will have me audited and fired if he can figure out who I am. That’s the way Republicans did things when they were in charge of state government in my state. We called ‘em “mossy backs”.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

{{Wes Clark was a favorite of mine in the last election.}}

Daniel, mine too. The end result in Iraq would be entirely different if his advice had been heeded and we had sealed the borders before going into Baghdad. And all those munition storage areas secured, too…

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Paul:

Things are pret-ty bad right now. Had Clinton kept “Little-Willie” in his pants and paid attention to world affairs we could have stopped Bin Laden in his tracks. We did not.

America aches for talented leadership. An economic policy based on “We can’t be overdrawn, we still have some checks left” has got to change. A foreign policy based on “Make Believe”; can serve no broad purpose. As the Pope said: “Nothing good can come from Iraq”. American and British companies are locking up oil contracts, however. I will listen for plans and ideas. I don’t think Clinton was a bad president. Bush is the worst ever.

By Goldie

April 16, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Steve-O, Dull is a coward because he spends all his time here promoting his war and won’t go to Iraq himself to participate in it. That’s what cowards do. And then they blame everyone else besides themselves for any problems that occur, all because they were too cowardly to take advice from “the enemies” in the opposing party.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Goldie: Anyone would have been better than Bush. I feel we are caught in an awkward twist of fate. A freak like Bush can only come along once in a thousand years. “A spoiled rich kid, doped and boozed into his forties encounters a Rove”. “Then falls into a right-wing rabbit hole and gets manipulated into thinking world domination by mad-hatter Cheney”. We’ll straighten this out, somehow.

By Joe Right

April 16, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

G.A.L., The Pulitzer also gave a prize to Mike Luckovich, the most dishonest, biased, left wing demagogue this side of Mongolia. If that doesn’t tell you how discredited this organization, whose sole criteria for giving awards is the promotion of their own left wing ideology, has become you no longer perceive reality.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

If you don’t like him, get out of here! I can follow any one of thousands of papers. I like AJC, precisely because of Mike and Cynthia. The right-wing doesn’t know how to laugh.

By steve-o

April 16, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Joe Right,

See that’s the difference between us lefties and you righties. Unlike you guys, we rather reward and honor works of literature and publications that we like rather than ban or burn the ones that we don’t.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Joe Right

Michael Ramirez, generally referred to as a conservative political cartoonist (the only one in America, I think) received a Pulitzer.

His cartoons are at:

Link:Ramirez Political Cartoons

By Midori

April 16, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

pulitzer winners here

yeah, Ramirez was so great that he was fired from the LA Times.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Joe mama,

He won two.

Met with Rummy and faked being a bodyguard for Kissenger.

Jealous?

Geez.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

did you hear that sound? the big “BAM”?

it wasn’t Emeril — It was the sound of Andy’s head exploding when he read about Cynthia Tucker :)

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 16, 2007 4:14 PM Cynthia Ticker just won the Pulitzer for opinion.}}}

To try and get me to continue giving to the party, the RNC sent me a certificate saying that I was named to be a Georgia Team Leader or some such silliness and I laughed at it. I wrote them a nice note saying that as soon as I quit financing Mexico’s takeover of our public education system with my tax dollars, maybe I would have some money to give to them.

Now that I see Cynthia has landed the pulitzer, I am reminded of that RNC Team Leader certificate.

Maybe I shouldn’t have thrown it away. I could have called myself an award winner, like everybody else.

Quote of the day:

{{{By Joe Right April 16, 2007 4:35 PM G.A.L., The Pulitzer also gave a prize to Mike Luckovich, the most dishonest, biased, left wing demagogue this side of Mongolia.}}}

Cowards.

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By @@

April 16, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

This Muqtada al-Sadr move has me asking…

Has anybody heard from Sistani?

Where is that old coot and what is he up to?

He has certainly served as the voice of reason in the past.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

this guy deserves 10 Pulitzers

By getalife

April 16, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Good one Midori.

I checked that wingnut cartoonist and I guess he draws well in color but not much imagination.

Can someone explain this one?

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Well Andy,

You took that well.

Unlike your hate party wanting money, she won a prestigious award paying 10 grand.

RNC team leader?

I guess that is something.

Geez.

By @@

April 16, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

I have no idea who that tall guy at the microphone is.

The guy to his right….the one with the huge “bulb” for a nose….

I think that’s Bill Clinton.

What the hell is he doing over in Iran?

Negotiating with Ahmadenijad?

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

gal: It’s an alumni reunion from Regent University. They’re working on talking points. The creep in the pointed hat is Monica Goodlling in cognito.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

@@,

I does not look like Clinton.

How about this one?

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 16, 2007 5:04 PM Well Andy, You took that well.}}}

Sorry to disappoint you, next time I’ll break down and sob like a lib for you.

Or maybe hold a scare rally.

I don’t get too excited about pinko®s giving other pinko®s awards.

You know what I mean?

Last year, two of the prize winners got theirs because they SPECIFICALLY wrote articles disclosing CIA surveillance programs, intentionally weakening the national security of the United States.

If we had a Man in the White House instead of a sponge, those two dudes would have received their prizes posthumously.

Don’t worry, I’m going to remind Rudy when he gets in that the statute of limitations ain’t run out yet on a whole lot of liberal activities.

Hang Em High.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Help me out

I don’t get it.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

This guy won

I think Mike and Tom got robbed.

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

gal: Petraeus is a guard. Gates could be the center. The awkward freak with the number 1 on his uniform is your president. “Congress” is on defense. Intent upon tackling the inept quarterback before the ball is snapped! I.e. “Give war a chance”. Mis dos centavos.

By @@

April 16, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Unfortunately, that ^^^ Ramirez cartoon could end up becoming true.

Why he wants to depict a bunch of liberal judges on the Supreme Court as “bananas” is up for debate.

They “slipped up” in their recent ruling?

They’re gonna cost everybody from the consumer to the auto workers a “whole bunch of bananas” when the automakers go belly-up due to the impending regulations?

Those liberal judges have gone “bananas”?

By Paul

April 16, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

getalife

The line’s the new team leading the way - SecDef Gates and Gen Petraeus. Quarterback is Pres Bush - about to take the ball to pass off to the guys running the new plays. Coming in from behind is a player on the same team - larger in the eyes of many than the players - who’s about to flatten the quarterback and whose momentum will carry him on through the his other teammates, shattering the play and ruining any chance of a score.

At least, that’s how I see it -

By Daniel

April 16, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

gal: Paul’s view is better than mine. I’m outta here!

By Paul

April 16, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

getalife

I enjoy ones like this - general commentary on American media and short attention span theater -

Link:what’s really important

By @@

April 16, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

One last thought on the Supreme Court “banana”.

Has Ruthie got a husband?

Come on now…..that woman is “ewwwwgly”….

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Yes, I missed the names on the jerseys.

Sorry Paul,

I think he sux.

I guess I do not think right.

I always get Mike’s stuff.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

@@,

[Have you seen Fred Thompson’s wife?](http://www.redkingpix.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio4/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Celebrities&image=042906Thompson.jpg&img=0&search=Jeri%20Kehn&cat=all&tt=&bool=phrase_

Yum.

Now that is a first lady.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

@@,

Have you seen Fred Thompson’s wife?

Yum.

Now that is a first lady.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

getalife

Rather like anything else - lots of choices, some appeal, some don’t. Not right or wrong, just different.

Frankly, I enjoy both Luckovich and Ramirez - especially when they address the same topic on the same day.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

getalife

You SURE that’s Thompson’s wife? Could it be a fake? (I mean the picture…)

Good reason to vote for him - it’d sure mess with Ahmadinejad on state visits!

By @@

April 16, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Alright Getalife. I got your message loud and clear.

You’re voting for Fred Thompson.

GFY (Good for you).

I knew you’d come to your senses, and it took a woman to get you there.

Sorry about my “Ruthie” post Paul.

Getalife brings out the worst in me. It’s all in fun.

By @@

April 16, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Paul:

(((Could “IT” be a fake?)))

Can you count?

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

@@ and Paul,

That is his wife but I would never vote gop.

I doubt the little old lady wingnuts will like her as first lady.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Steve-O,

Item 1:

{{By steve-o April 16, 2007 2:39 PM

Buy Danish,

Interesting, but yet inconsequential point. Don’t you think individuals in the far upper-income brackets also have a sizeable portion of their investment incomes locked up in different funds, thus nullifying your and the WSJ Op-Ed hypothesis?}}}

Uh, Steve-O, the point is that those people who ARE NOT in the top 1% have 401Ks which they didn’t have in the 70’s.

Try reading this again:

In recent years, an increasingly huge share of the investment income of>>>>>>>middle-income savers<<<<<< is accruing inside 401(k), IRA and 529 college-savings plans and is therefore invisible in tax return data. In the 1970s, by contrast, such investment income was usually taxable…

Item 2:

By steve-o

{{{By steve-o April 16, 2007 4:43 P.M.

Joe Right,

See that’s the difference between us lefties and you righties. Unlike you guys, we rather reward and honor works of literature and publications that we like rather than ban or burn the ones that we don’t.}}}

Who is “we” Steve-O? Are you a Pulitzer? If so then perhaps you can explain why you gave New York Times Lying reporter Walter Duranty a Pulitzer for his work perpetuating the myth that a sweet Communist called Joseph Stalin was creating a land of milk and honey in the Soviet Union, when the reality was that tens of millions were dying under his rule.

Next you can explain why, after numerous and reasonable complaints about this false reporting, the Pulitzer committee refused to rescind the prize.

Finally, a push to “burn” people off of the airwaves is being led by Media Matters, a Democrat shadow party group.

Other than their crusade to silence talk radio (Imus, while not a conservative didn’t like Hillary and that is a no no) you’ll have to direct me to any significant book burning that has been going on, and when you find it for me, tell me what conservatives are supporting it.

Thanks in advance!

By getalife

April 16, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Here is another picture of her

Yummy.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Gonzalez testimony to Congress that was scheduled to take place tomorrow has been postponed, due in part to the tragedy that occurred at VA Tech today.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

getalife

Okay, I believe she’s his wife. But how come Wonkette and other blogs for Democrats (?) sound like they’re lifting the Family Values cloak from conservative Republicans? It’s all they seem to talk about, now…

Humor. No response necessary.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

@@ 5:50

I didn’t ignore your question - my response didn’t make it past the AJC server.

All I said was:

I don’t even want to go there.

:) LOL

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

The Wonkette, from gitmo’s link:

{{{Somehow, criticizing the idiocy, divorces, obesity, dumb religions and drug addictions of the famous makes regular Americans feel better about being dumb divorced obese Jesus-freak OxyContin addicts who are also poor and ugly, so every GOP candidate for every possible office has to dedicate at least one commercial or mailer to the pursuit of “traditional family values” as seen only on Little House on the Prairie reruns.}}}

You want to talk about ME losing it.

This monster is flipping out over Fred Thompson’s old lady who happens to also be a bit of a plumper, God Bless her heart.

How quaint.

Pray tell, is this Wonkette creature maybe a muff diver with a serious psychological disorder, the mere thought of red staters having fun in bed drives this slut stark raving mad?

WTF?

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By RE

April 16, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

Nice one on Fred’s wife.

It is only his second wife, so he is ahead of Rudy and tied with McCain on that one.

Kind of ironic that the mormon has the fewest wives in the GOP race.

By Midori

April 16, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

Media Matters is not a “shadow democratic group”.

It is run by David Brock, a former conservative (remember the Arkansas Trooper/Clinton stories, and Anita Hill “little bit slutty” tag?), who makes no secret of his democratic leanings.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Do you have anything other than campaigns to stifle speech and Clintonian tactics of the the politics of personal destruction up your sleeve?

That Wonkette page you linked to is juvenile, tabloid trash.

By “trash”, I’m not referring to the photo of Thompson’s wife, I’m talking about the malicious garbage that made up the text that accompanies the photo.

Is that what the Dem Party stands for now? FDR and JFK must be rolling in their graves.

Maybe you confuse the word “salvation” with “salivating”?

By @@

April 16, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

(((I don’t even want to go there.)))

LOL indeed Paul.

Uh Huh Uh Huh.

I’mmmmmm outta herrrrrrrrre.

By RE

April 16, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

Lets see now,

Gulianni ——3 wives

McCain ———2 wives

Gingrich ——3 wives

Thompson ——2 wives

Romney ——1 wife

But romney is young, he still has time.

Yeah family values!!! Marriage is so sacred, I have has several.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

I don’t give a flying fark about Brock’s former credentials. Anyone who thinks that Rush Limbaugh should be taken off the air because he uses the acronym “NAGS” to describe a certain breed of “feminists” is a threat to our liberties and is a Stalinist.

Media Matters is a non-profit arm of the Clinton wing of the Democrat Party and they are funded by George Soros who launders the money through other leftist groups before it goes to them.

The Shadow Party is composed of people like Soros and Brock is the bag man and propaganda outlet.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

RE

Rather sad - poll results showing the number of voters who wouldn’t consider Romney because of his faith. Bigotry seems to still be alive and well.

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

{{{By N-GA February 28, 2007 8:44 AM BTW Andy: What ever happened to your posts about the raging stock market as proof that GWB’s economy is so great?}}}

Here you go Wanker N-GA, mountain girl, wanna bet a million?

Oppenheimer Developing Markets A (ODMAX)

Ka-ching.

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By RE

April 16, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

What is NAGS?

Paul,

A lot of folks out there will not vote for someone based upon religion. If you are not a christian, you do not have a chance in this country. When you think about it, we currently have a woman and a black man running as credible candidates this cycle, and I think if either get the party nomination, they have a better than average chance to become the next president. And Richardson would make a great candidate as well as a hispanic. Other biasis will take much longer to get over. It is going to take a long time before you ever see a muslim, jew, buddhist, or athiest elected to high office.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

To whom it may concern:

Here is Media Matters list of offenses committed by talk radio hosts.

Considering all the hysteria about a “chill wind” blowing over American when people got fed up with the Dixie Chicks - those “people” being THEIR AUDIENCE, it seems to me that we can declare Global Warming officially over because this chill wind heralds a new ice age.

If the day ever comes that Rush and Hannity and Boortz’s audience decide they are “offended” and want them to go, their time will be up.

When Media Matters decides to go after them and silence them, that is stone cold censorship.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

RE,

I just posted a link to Media Matters where your question can be answered, but if you’re too lazy or uninterested to read it, the answer is that NAGS is the acronym for the National Association of Gals - an brilliant and funny invention of Limbaugh’s that describes militant feminists.

Humor is not permitted in neo-Stalingrad.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Good to know ya’ll like Wonkette.

I will link more for your viewing pleasure.

BD,

They are going after Ann next.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

BD,

Soros is not involved with Media Matters.

Quit lying.

After Ann, Rush is next.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

RE

Yup. I agree. Saw a columnist - prof from Boston University, of all places - argue for the study of religion - particularly Christianity. Not doctrine - said “we are a Christian nation” but most of his students are woefully ignorant of the history and stories. I don’t remember many of his examples but one that stood out was “Who was Joan of Arc?” Answer: “Noah’s wife.”

Buy Danish

My two cents’ on the tax thing (illustrates why I like O’Reilly’s questions - they cut to the chase). He (OR) had a guest from one of these “fairness” organizations. He made his point about raising rates on the “richest.” OR said “that’s me. How much do you want?” OR had to ask several times as the guy evaded with discourses on “fairness.” OR said “the marginal rate is 38 percent. How much total of my money do you want to take?” The guy said “75 percent.” Really.

OR said “30 people just lost their jobs. I do a radio show and a tv show. Long hours - but if you want three fourths of my earnings I’ll stop the tv show - and the workers will be out.” The guy then told OR he was selfish for not continuing to work. Amazing, isn’t it? The guest couldn’t get past theory, then he blamed the worker, not the person taking his money.

At least Obama said raise the top rate by 2-3 percent. Not that I think it’ll make much difference, but at least he’s specific.

By LuckoDull

April 16, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 16, 2007 6:35 PM They are going after Ann next.}}}

Yeah, I’ll bet Ann is just quaking in her bo, er, stiletto high heels.

Cowards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By RE

April 16, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Yeah, but Limbaugh isn’t funny.

Well, that is subjective I guess, some people still like carrot top.

What happened to the Dixie chicks was not censorship. Neither was what happened to Imus. It is free market economy, that is all. If certain groups want someone off the air, they can boycott the sponsors of the show.

The free market in action.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

RNC team leader wantabe,

Is the netroots going after those who spew hate.

Be nice or you will never make RNC team leader.

BTW, you need to get on the same page as w with amnesty for illgal immigrants.

Your Mexican comment is not the RNC team leader talking point.

By @@

April 16, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

In for a nickle out for a dollar.

Getalife:

You would never vote gop? And to think, you used to claim “no allegiance” to party.

I’ll let Dusty speak for me. I caught this at Wooten’s.

(((By Dusty April 16, 2007 2:05 PM)))

(((There was a time when liberals did not fighten me. In fact, I found some of their policies beneficial. I felt that America was cherished by Democrats in the same way that I felt. But that has changed.)))

(((After Democrats lost twice to Republicans in the last presidential elections, they became vindictive. No matter what this government did, Democrats vociferously protested it, truthfully or untruthfully, whatever caused the most damage. They turned against the votes they had made and have tried to undermine the war in Iraq. They condemn Bush because this is not a perfect war, as no war has ever been.)))

(((I began to see that Democrat’s main goal was to undermine President Bush, even if they undermined the government, the troops and lost the war at the same time. They demolished a unified front against our enemies.)))

(((Now it is almost impossible to believe anything good about Democrats as their leaders such as Pelosi and Murtha try to replace the presidency and consort with the leaders of enemy countries.)))

(((I will support the President and leaders of this country who were elected. If I don’t like their policies, I will not vote for those like them next time. At present, I will not vote for any Democrat.)))

Thanks Dusty, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

I would also like to point out that at “Conservative” Wooten’s we are given the “freedom” to post without word limits, the use of “italics” and the ability to “embolden”.

Conservatives DON’T RESTRICT.

Vote Republican for free speech.

By RE

April 16, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Paul,

That is a third rail. What school district would want a comparitive religion course. It opens you up for lawsuit after lawsuit and complaints all around. Try asking anyone about the foundation of thier own religion and even the devout usually have little knowledge about who wrote the texts, when they were written, how thier little sect was broken off from the rest… etc.

Considering 30% of people in this country do not know who Dick Cheney is, I would say there are many other areas of ignorance to work on first.

By Paul

April 16, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

getalife

Isn’t Pres Bush’s policy on path to citizenship closer to the Democratic position than the “conservative” wing of the Republican Party - which is reflected in the “adjustments” some candidates are making (Romney) to get their approval and win the nomination?

If so, doesn’t it make sense for the Democratic Congress to work with Pres Bush on this and get a bill passed, rather than risk another Republican President whose position will lead to another four years with no change?

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

RE,

It is not the free market in action when people who are not the consumers of the product stop that product from being produced.

That is censorship.

If you don’t like Imus or Rush you can change the freaking channel or not tune in in the first place.

Neither Imus, nor Rush, nor AC have violated any FCC rules.

Comrade Getalife,

Thanks for the admission that “they” are going after Rush and Ann Coulter. I already knew that of course, but it’s good to hear it from the horses’ asses’ mouth.

By getalife

April 16, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Good question.

I think the States will make the laws for illegal immigrants because of the costs.

Speaking of Ann

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Paul,

The Fair Tax is the way to go. Second best is the flat tax. This business of picking dollar amounts that put you into another tax bracket and turns you into public enemy #1 is obscene.

I know that you are a bit smitten by Obama. Include me out. A Leftist is a Leftist, no matter how articulate they are.

Oops! I just committed an politically incorrect offense by calling Obama “articulate”.

Sue me.

By Buy Danish

April 16, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this

Double oops. Make that “a” politically incorrect event.

getalife,

WTF is the point of that Wonkette photo of Ann and Jimmy?

Is there an inside joke here? Anything to do with nappy headed hos?

I’m getting a very racist vibe from your post, which surprises me not in the least since Liberals are nothing if not despicable hypocrites.

By RW-(the original)

April 17, 2007 1:38 AM | Link to this

Remember when Blackadder was whining that Buy Danish didn’t follow his lead in excoriating Bill O’Blowhard last week?

Would you be surprised to know the Adder was lying?

I wouldn’t either, in fact I’d be surprised if that moonbat ever told the truth.