Mike Luckovich

By George

April 11, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

Must be a new comedy series!

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this

Something you will never hear a lib say, if you ever do you can be sure it is a distress code to let you know there are being forced to say it:

{{{Georgia homeowners would get a $100 property tax cut under a budget agreement reached Tuesday night by state House and Senate leaders. “The best way to resolve this issue is to give it back to the taxpayers of Georgia,” Cagle said.}}}

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Says a current House Republican leadership staffer.”But what troubles me isn’t so much that Waxman is doing it, it’s that so many of our members aren’t trying to fight it. They are just lying down and letting the Democrats roll over them. It’s depressing.” Depressing?

Channel that emotion into anger.

Jump off in some pinko’s as-s, let them have it with both barrels.

We will all feel better.

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{{{Cruise ship leaks tons of oil Shipwreck threatens Greek resort island; cleanup crews try to contain spill- Urinal.}}}

It isn’t the loss of life, the near death tragedy of thousands or the sinking of the massive ship, it’s the easily cleanable oil spill that causes the libs to weep.

What a f’ed up world you sick mofo’s live in.

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The pacifists at the AJC posted some of their own vents:

{{{It really gripes Americans that the British achieved their objective, getting their sailors home alive, by acting more like Ghandi than John Wayne.}}}

It doesn’t gripe me a bit. What it does do is make me feel sad for the next group of hostages who may not be so lucky, because Britain made it easier for the Iranians to take them.

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I figured out why the candy as-s pinkos can’t stand McCain now:

{{{The Senator replied that he’d “rather lose a campaign than lose a war.”}}}

This is utter and total blasphemy to them.

To me it’s what all real Americans should think.

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By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

We Democrats should’ve been unapologetic last week defending Speaker Pelosi because the truth was on our side: She had a right to go. And she was right to go. The coordinated attack on her trip to Syria was as inappropriate as it was irresponsible. And when that happens to one of our leaders, we should all damn well stand up and be counted in our support, or else we hand partisan operatives on the other side a dangerous victory.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this

{{{We Democrats should’ve been unapologetic last week defending Speaker Pelosi because the truth was on our side: She had a right to go. And she was right to go. The coordinated attack on her trip to Syria was as inappropriate as it was irresponsible. And when that happens to one of our leaders, we should all damn well stand up and be counted in our support, or else we hand partisan operatives on the other side a dangerous victory.}}}}

John Kerry, defending his team with comments from the Huffington Post.

As he should be.

Meanwhile, the Republicans cower before the likes of suc-kface Waxman, like a bunch of jack slapped little bitc-hes.

What do you know, it looks like I’m a member of the 70% crowd today.

You 36% chickensh-its cowards can kiss my as-s.

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By IN THE NEWS

April 11, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

WHAT A BUNCH OF WHACK JOBS

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

I wonder why cartoon boy never called his precious a crook when the guy pulled every trick in the book and did everything short of murder to promote himself and his career and now his fortune. And let’s not forget the plagerizing Hitlery, the she-hound from He** and her cattle futures fiasco and Casa Grande and Whitewater. Give me a break!

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

You libs are going to lose this war in Iraq, big time:

There is a growing Shia unease with the Mahdi Army—and with the venality and incompetence of the Sadrists represented in the cabinet—and an increasing faith that the government and its instruments of order are the surer bet. The crackdown on the Mahdi Army that the new American commander, Gen. David Petraeus, has launched has the backing of the ruling Shia coalition. Iraqi police and army units have taken to the field against elements of the Mahdi army. In recent days, in the southern city of Diwaniyya, American and Iraqi forces have together battled the forces of Moqtada al-Sadr. To the extent that the Shia now see Iraq as their own country, their tolerance for mayhem and chaos has receded. Sadr may damn the American occupiers, but ordinary Shia men and women know that the liberty that came their way had been a gift of the Americans.

Get used to it.

You can whine all you want with Mookie, hold hands and cry together.

You’re done dealing.

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By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS - I prefer Mike Malloy’s term. The Bush Crime Family.

By IN THE NEWS

April 11, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Handy Guide to Bush administration’s crimes and misdemeanors

By IN THE NEWS

April 11, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

(FIND A SICKO NEO PUBLICAN NEAR YOU!)[http://www.netrootsnetwork.com/index.php?option=comgooglemaps&category=88888890%20&Itemid=88888889]

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

I forgot to mention the KENNEDY Crime Family, led today by the drunkard Edward M. Kennedy, otherwise known as the Chappequidick Kid! Entire tomes have been written about the machinations of that bunch of stock manipulators, rum runners and reprobates. And we cannot forget Lyndon Johnson! Let us not forget the crooks that have run Chicago for the last 100 years! All of them Demoncrats.

I bet you crook-loving libs cannot name even one actual crime besides a 1976 DUI committed by anyone in the Bush family!

By regulator

April 11, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Hillary 08”

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Great toon, Luckovich! The Bushies today are on the same level as the Sopranos and the Mafioso… war criminals for supporting their war criminal White House!1

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

{{I bet you crook-loving libs cannot name even one actual crime besides a 1976 DUI committed by anyone in the Bush family!}}

Truthdenier/Fuddy Duddy— you’ve obviously blocked out the reigning Repugnants’ Kings of Criminals: Nixon, Halderman, Coulson, Mitchell, and good ole Ollie North… all of them are criminals against Americans!

By Walt

April 11, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

ROLFMAO

The cartoon today is truly inspired.

Walt

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this

{{What do you know, it looks like I’m a member of the 70% crowd today.}}

Good for you, Andy-Dull. Come away from the dark side for awhile…

By Jesus

April 11, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By IN THE NEWS

April 11, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

[I HATE IT THAT THE LAST LINK DIDNT WORK. THAT WAS A REALLY COOL SITE. BUT THERES ALWAYS THIS)[http://www.armchairsubversive.com/]

By @@

April 11, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Aaaallllright ml. Very good likeness of “T”, James Gandolfini.

Sexy, sexy guy.

So, the doctor asks Tony: “Have you ever had a prostate exam?”

Tony replies: “Are you kidding? I don’t let anyone wag their finger in my FACE.”

Sometimes it pays to be an “as-s”.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS - You aren’t using the brackets and parentheses correctly. Brackets around the text and parentheses around the URL.

By Life as Good as It Is

April 11, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull @8:32- You libs are going to lose this war in Iraq, big time:

Note the emphasis. The writer really doesn’t care one snit if America wins. He is such a rabid ideologue that he only wants ‘libs’ to ‘lose’. The good of America is only a second thought, at best.

The writer does have one thing right though, conservatives have, once again, left the libs in charge of another series of catastrophic blunders. Hopefully, the libs will be able to salvage some small measure of success from the no-win scenario that was dumped on our nation. If they can manage that, we should be grateful for life as good as it is!

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

News— great link @ 8:46!

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Goldie - I asked about the Bush family. I did not bring up Nixon. We all know what those folks did. My point is you have a complete double standard, and you did not answer the question. I also am not Fuddy Duddy.

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

This occupation of Iraq is W’s legacy, not the Dems’, no matter what bad result comes of it.

Everyone knows that throughout history occupying forces have to be withdrawn at some point during a civil war. The Iraqis will decide their own fate and there’s nothing we can do to stop them from fighting each other. We can withdraw now or we can withdraw later — the bloodbath will continue either way.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Life…. You really have it all wrong. We conservatives really do care whether or not we win. LuckoDull was just pointing out that you are trying very hard for us to lose. The fact is, you libs are invested in defeat. If we win this war, then you lose politically and that is all you care about. Let’s face it you hate America first and love our enemies as yourselves. You would embrace Hugo Chavez and Ahmadenijab before you would even shake Condoleeza Rice’s hand!

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

{{I did not bring up Nixon. We all know what those folks did.}}

Truth-denier, you fail to see your own double-standard when you constantly point out the Dems’ crimes and then make a point of overlooking the Repugs’ crimes.

Double-talking hypocrite. I bet you’re a McCain supporter, because that’s exactly what he does, too.

By @@

April 11, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

My goodness! I thought the Democrats were open to discussion.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid promptly issued a statement saying that Democrats are “willing to meet with the president at any time,” but not if he sets “preconditions.”

The Democrats sound just like aaaahhh…aaaahhh, oh yea!

The Democrats sound just like Ahmadenijad.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

{{{By Life as Good as It Is April 11, 2007 9:15 AM The writer really doesn’t care one snit if America wins. Hopefully, the libs will be able to salvage some small measure of success from the no-win scenario that was dumped on our nation.}}}

1) If I were you, I sure wouldn’t begin a career in behavior profiling.

2) “Some small measure of success” translated into pinko speak means that the US cuts and runs from Iraq and Al Qaeda gains humiliating victory against the free democratic world.

3) By making this a “Conservative versus a candy as-s” issue, I am merely saying that I want America to win, what exactly do you think Pelosi and Reid mean when they say “cut and run?” Are you stupid?

4) Because the Conservatives are in charge of Iraq and not the pinkos, as you so laughingly suggest, then yes, America does have a chance at success.

5) I’m sure you and all the other libs will fight as hard as you can….. against that chance for success.

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Goldi: Happy to see you think you’ve won me over, but I’m against Bush because he won’t rip your head off and dump down your throat.

Thanks for welcoming me aboard.

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By getalife

April 11, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

The Sopranos is my favorite show.

The Bushies, fahgetabouddit.

That show will be canceled soon.

By @@

April 11, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

Is Goldie “OFF” work AGAIN????????

How do you manage all that time “OFF” Goldie?

Are you a government employee?

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

{{The fact is, you libs are invested in defeat. If we win this war, then you lose politically and that is all you care about. Let’s face it you hate America first and love our enemies as yourselves. You would embrace Hugo Chavez and Ahmadenijab before you would even shake Condoleeza Rice’s hand!}}

Truth-denier is another brain-washed “Dems hate America because they don’t support the president’s war-mongering policies”… get a clue, Truth-denier!

There’s a difference between being a critic of Bush and “hating America”, but that means you’d have to do some hard thinking on your part and you’re obviously not willing to do any thinking about that.

That old “love the president or you’re a traitor” has never worked since the beginning of our history, so why do you continue to use that propaganda? You’re just another member of the 29% cult who loves his ideology, no matter what the truth is.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

3 Generals Spurn the Position of War ‘Czar’ Bush Seeks Overseer For Iraq, Afghanistan

I guess Gates wants to rededploy.

“Harry Reid responds to Bush: ” We are speaking for the American people, he isn’t.”

We the people, remember that wingnuts?

Why do wingnuts hate the American people?

Geez.

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

{{Is Goldie “OFF” work AGAIN??}}

Boobs— it’s none of your beeswax what I do during the day. But if you really care to know, my work hours vary during the week depending on work-needs. You seem a little jealous, always harping about my time “OFF”…

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

{{Why do wingnuts hate the American people?}}

A question for the history books, Getalife…

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

{{but I’m against Bush because he won’t rip your head off and dump down your throat.}}

Some more of your “Christian love” coming my way, Dull?

By ron

April 11, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

Duke Cunningham was small potatoes:

Can you guess how many stories the San Francisco Chronicle, and their partners in the old line liberal media, have written about the ethics scandal involving Senator Dianne Feinstein, which reportedly forced her to resign from the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee (MILCON)? The correct answer would be zero, zip, zilch, nada, none. These Blum-tied companies made enormous amounts of money from the projects that Feinstein’s MILCON subcommittee oversaw. Metro Newspaper’s Peter Byrne noted that one of the companies tied to Feinstein’s husband earned $792 million from military construction and cleanup projects approved by MILCON, while the other earned $759 million.

Now this^^ is real corruption.

Taking bribes is menial compared to controlling a government entity and funneling tax dollars into your own business accounts.

Is this too big for pinkos to understand?

Do they only attack small stuff, like gay congressman?

Are they banking on the fact that the coward, wormy little current Republican leaders are to busy being nice to their executioners to stomp somebody’s guts out?

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By @@

April 11, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Goldie:

{{{But if you really care to know, my work hours vary during the week depending on work-needs.}}}

Sure they do…uh-huh!

Jealous? No way.

I’ve got the greatest job in the world. Next year I’ll be back at full-time and it will be “perfection”.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

getalife,

That crook, Harry Reid, doesn’t speak for me. If you weren’t such a blind partisan and really cared about corruption you’d be demanding he be drummed out of the Senate for his crooked land deals and his shady dealings with Abramoff.

Geez

By getalife

April 11, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

ron,

They have changed, they are the majority and doing a good job.

Keep in mind when the gop had the majority when you vote. They got us into this mess the Dems are trying to fix.

It will take decades and we the people need to be patient.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. For the past seven years, we’ve been subjected to the media buying Karl Rove’s theory of GOP dominance. It wasn’t so long ago that the Bush swagger awed the GOP and the media. Those days are so over — according to Republicans themselves — they are freaking out.

The NY Times reports on the precipitous demise of the GOP. What a bunch of pathetic, whiny losers they’ve become. That didn’t take long.

Bush is destroying the Republican party even faster than he is destroying America.

The Republicans let Bush reign without any challenge or any oversight. Payback’s a b***.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

I forgot to add that every day that goes by, people who still support Bush seem more and more pathetic.

By the real truth of the matter

April 11, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

W alone has committed enough crimes for his entire family, but since his family has so much political clout, it always gets covered up. Lets see, there was desertion (punishable by death), Lying under oath, Lying to congress, Lying to start a war, Crimes against humanity and our constitution, and mainly being a spoiled little b!tch. And for the record i WOULD rather embrace Chavez and Ahmadinejad than to shake Condi’s hand because they are for their people and i commend that where as the entire bush administration only looks out for their own best interests. I also think Condi is a sellout. Also the dems shouldnt meet with Bush, because it isnt going to solve anything since he only listens to himself and does whatever he wants to anyway so itd be a waste of time.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

{{but I’m against Bush because he won’t rip your head off and dump down your throat.}}

w could dump down Andy’s throat and Andy would call it ice cream.

Ewwwwwww.

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

{{Ms.Pelosi looked real cute dressed in Hijab,kowtowing to the Syrian men,}}

Would you feel better if the Repugnant men also had to wear the Hijab, or are you just mad at them for participating with the Dems in the dialogue with Syria?

Your fake outrage about the Dems is about as touching as Dull’s fakeness everyday.

By the real truth of the matter

April 11, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

W alone has committed enough crimes for his entire family, but since his family has so much political clout, it always gets covered up. Lets see, there was desertion (punishable by death), Lying under oath, Lying to congress, Lying to start a war, Crimes against humanity and our constitution, and mainly being a spoiled little b!tch. And for the record i WOULD rather embrace Chavez and Ahmadinejad than to shake Condi’s hand because they are for their people and i commend that where as the entire bush administration only looks out for their own best interests. I also think Condi is a sellout. Also the dems shouldnt meet with Bush, because it isnt going to solve anything since he only listens to himself and does whatever he wants to anyway so itd be a waste of time.

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

{{Oh, how the mighty have fallen.}}

Good points, Blackadder— remember how a few years ago, Rover and DeLay thought for sure that their kingdom had been “gerrymandered” for eternity. They think Americans are idiots and that’s why they’ve been dumped out of Congress.

Good riddance!

By Dusty

April 11, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Oh great!! Luckovich is now connecting the President with criminals. The “Bushies” and the Sopranos. And I guess the USA is just one big prison camp that we should let terrorists take over. What patriots!! Terribly clever, ho ho ho!!!

First, liberals give us cut-n-run, then cut-the-funds, and now Pelosi consorting with the enemy. Wasn’t that what Benedict Arnold was doing? Yep!! Consorting with the enemy. Unauthorized promises. Now that’s not only mob appeal, it is criminal action.!! The Liberosa Crime family!!

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Seriously. That’s what Bush said today. He wants to meet with Democrats to work out an agreement over the war funding, provided that the Democrats understand that this isn’t a negotiation, that Bush isn’t going to change his mind, and that the Democrats will have to accept Bush’s position 100%. Really, that’s what he said.

In other words, Bush wants Dems to report on the progress they’ve made in caving on their position and agreeing to Bush’s. Real piece of work, that guy.

Oh, and you’ll be glad to know that Bush got a “boost” today, at least according to AP, because our puppet in Iraq has now said that they don’t need a timetable for US withdrawal to make them stand up and defend their own country rather than having our young men and women die for them. Uh huh. Kind of like asking a child if he needs rules - oh no, no rules needed, mom, you can trust me, just keep giving me that unlimited credit card and the key to the cars. For AP to call this a “boost” is beyond absurd.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

It’s as if Dusty ONLY watches the Dems and never watches the Republicans. How else could one excuse all the dishonesty and ineptness?

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

{{and now Pelosi consorting with the enemy.}}

Be sure to include your Repugnant members of Congress in your fake outrage, Dusty-brain. Real cute how you keep failing to mention any other names besides Speaker Pelosi’s — is it fake outrage or just selective outrage??? What a pathetic cult-member you are.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Blackadder,

Would you please provide a source that Bush said he was insisting on 100% of his position on the funding bill?

Thank you in advance.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

getalife 9:56

“It will take decades and we the people need to be patient.”

I don’t believe the American people have that kind of patience. But what will take decades to fix? The economy? What part? Unemployment and inflation are low. Interest rates? Low. Jobs? People won’t wait decades to fix it. Home ownership? Ditto. Environmental matters? Decades to update CAFE, obtain new domestic sources of petroleum? Alternate energy? Decades is again, a bit long. “World trust and respect?” If it ain’t done in a short space of time Democrats won’t get an extension. Iraq? You want decades to “fix” it? Four years has been quite enough, thank you. I thought last Oct the Democrats had a secret plan. I never thought it would take decades.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this

If that weren’t enough, Bush said he will veto the stem cell research bill — again. He is building a record of destroying lives instead of saving them, he made it clear he’ll veto the stem cell bill that will pass the Senate this week. It’s already passed in the House. He really is a heartless bastard.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Goldie has a point, it was Pelosi’s stooge Lantos that said the Democrats had negotiated a new foreign policy with Syria. Let’s not leave him out.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Goldie - you still haven’t answered the question and I do not have a double standard. I was pointing out that you folks do. You NEVER admit to the fact that the history of the Demoncrat party is a history of corruption going back to Andrew Jackson. I did not deny that Nixon and his minions did things for which they were punished, but you would excuse murder. Indeed, by implication you have. You and your ilk continue to support such reprobates as Teddy Kennedy and then hypocritically hurl slings and arrows at people like Mark Foley when Barney Frank is still in Congress. And again, you still haven’t answered the question!

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Blackadder,

Would you please provide a source for the report that Bush will veto any stem cell bill, regardless of how it comes out of conference?

Thank you in advance.

By @@

April 11, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

So now al-Sadr is threatening Maliki if he doesn’t support the Democrats’ timetable for withdrawal.

This is just too funny.

First the Democrats want negotiations with Bush on their terms only. Just like Ahmadenijad wants before negotiations on his nuclear program, and now al-Sadr is echoing the Democrats’ demands in Iraq.

Talk about “mob” rule.

Is this the democrats joining up with the “terrorist” mobs, or the terrorist mobs joining up with the “democrats”?

Down with america!!!

Down with the Great Satan!!!

Well yes, I do believe they have joined ranks.

GFY (Good for you)??????

By Not Dull

April 11, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

3 Generals Spurn the Position of War ‘Czar’ Bush Seeks Overseer For Iraq, Afghanistan

The White House wants to appoint a high-powered czar to oversee the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with authority to issue directions to the Pentagon, the State Department and other agencies, but it has had trouble finding anyone able and willing to take the job, according to people close to the situation.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

From AP (since AP changed their story and made it more amenable to Bush, I’m going to quote the original AP story that gives the actual facts of what Bush said):

“President Bush on Tuesday invited Democrats to discuss their standoff over a war-spending bill, but he made clear he would not change his position opposing troop withdrawals. The White House bluntly said the meeting would not be a negotiation.

“At this meeting, the leaders in Congress can report on progress on getting an emergency spending bill to my desk,” Bush said. “We can discuss the way forward on a bill that is a clean bill, a bill that funds our troops without artificial timetables for withdrawal and without handcuffing our generals on the ground. I’m hopeful we’ll see some results soon from the Congress.”

By getalife

April 11, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Paul,

Well, I checked factchecks.org and the economy numbers are lies. They use two sets of books.

Its their credibility, morals and reputation.

There are many other consequences to w’s disaster.

Try reading something besides your two favorite sites.

Speaking of plan B:

“Rep. Gingrey: Bush, GOP Will Unleash “Plan B” in Aug. 2008!”

This idiot is another Burns and should be voted out.

Geez.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

It’s time for Ricky Wingnut to do his own research:

Bush Would Veto Stem Cell Research Bill

By Paul

April 11, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Getalife

Didn’t source those sites - merely referenced them earlier as a kind of “Reader’s Digest Condensed Version” for those interested.

My focus was on your comment “Decades to fix.” That means at least 20 years, which struck me as a bit long. If you contention is the Democrats can’t “fix” problems in less than 20 years, I’ll just have to hope Nader runs again. Plus, I couldn’t really determine what “it” means regarding “fixing it.” So I just asked if it was in reference to the areas I gave. If you’re given to hyperbole to illustrate a point, fine, but absent a reference I can only take what you’ve written as accurate.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

{{{{{From AP (since AP changed their story and made it more amenable to Bush, I’m going to quote the original AP story that gives the actual facts of what Bush said):}}}}}-by lying Blackadder

Translation: Blackadder isn’t willing to give the newest, most reliable information because it doesn’t fit his slanted, lying agenda.

By Yada Yada Yada

April 11, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

If all of you people would just give up on this world and the self serving jerks who run it, your lives might shorten due to war and faminine, but the peace of knowing that you can indeed let go would improve the quality and tranquility of your lives dramatically.

There will always be self serving a*******holes like W and the rest of Washington, Iraq, North Korea,Iran et; but God has a special place in Hell for them. Just live your lives as best as you can and be the best people that you can be.

Treat yourself and others with kindness and considration, and seek inner peace. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Life will get better. As for the military service, in the words of Nancy Reagan, just say “no.”

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Here is the link I failed to include on my 10:26.

The first paragraph had been changed by AP to protect the guilty but the gist is still the same.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

The surge is making it worse with more Americans killed

The gop will impeach w.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Oops Ricky Wingnut is wrong … AGAIN! :-)

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

From Blackadder’s link in reference to the stem cell bill:

{{{{{WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush will again veto a bill to subsidize stem cell research using human embryos, ———>but would sign an alternative that permits public funding for studies on embryos incapable of developing into fetuses<———-, the White House said Tuesday.}}}}}

Maybe it’s time for another suicide note and a name change dumbass.

By AntiRadical

April 11, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

OK toon ML. Equating the current administration with mafioso may be entertaining but it is hardly conducive to bipartisan dialogue.

On another note, an opportunity has arisen for Dems and Reps to actually agree about a very important issue. Our own Senator Isaakson (R, GA), has made a proposal that would allow the limited use of “naturally dead” embryos in stem cell research. The President has indicated that he would sign the bill if it were presented to him.

This is a real opportunity to find common ground that would greatly benefit medical treatment for a host of the most intractable diseases and conditions known to man. Very little actual embryonic tissue is required for the important research work that still needs to be done. This legislation would give sufficient access to that tissue while still protecting any embryos that have any potential for life.

I encourage all my fellow bloggers to inform themselves of the specifics of this legislation, and if you feel that this is a compromise that you can live with, please write or call your representatives to lend your support to this noble cause.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Well Paul,

If w gets away with it, we will merge with Canada and Mexico and will never be able to fix it.

That better?

It took 6 years to destroy this country and it will take longer to fix it.

That better?

Anything else I can help the wingnuts with?

Geez.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Dream on adder, dream on.

If you lying about a story and then linking to a story that doesn’t say what you claimed makes me wrong in your world, then that’s fine with me. It does indicate you need serious professional help though.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Maybe it’s time for Ricky Wingnutsack to have another meltdown and jack my name again.

You really get nasty when backed into a corner and proved wrong don’t you. Your MO is always the same. Ask for proof and find some detail you try to show invalidates it. it never works and you look foolish every time.

What a moron.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

{{{By getalife April 11, 2007 10:37 AM The surge is making it worse with more Americans killed.}}}

gitmo: When you confront the enemy head on, clearing them out of strongholds that you previously ignored, you can expect more casualties in the short.

Any idiot knows that.

What you can also expect is victory.

Which you idiots are fixing to find out.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Ricky Wingnutsack 10:43

Reality really is a foreign concept to you isn’t it?

By candide

April 11, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

The Sopranos have an excuse. In feudal Sicily you learned to mistrust the authorities and to take matters in your own hands. The elite Bush family has no excuse. With one side of its mouth it expresses bourgeois morality, with the other it is criminally guilty of fraud, theft, and disceit.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Blackadder,

When your story completely contradicts your original claim it isn’t really a minor detail.

I again extend my permission to you and the AJC staff to show that I have ever jacked anyone’s name and agree to be forever banned if I have. Are you willing to do the same?

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Interacting with RW is like spinning your wheels in chicken sh!t except smellier.

Now on to something more useful.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

I guess that’s a no, so you are admitting to your juvenile name jacking. What a putz.

To anyone else,

I’m leaving for a few hours, don’t trust anything you see Blackadder writing in my name while I’m gone.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

You know how all the anti-Global Warming deniers always talk about China being the reason we shouldn’t do anything to help curb greenhouse emissions? Well it looks like that excuse is getting just a little less credible every day. The latest evidence comes from an announcement that China and Japan have agreed to commit their political will to curbing Green House gas emissions. It seems even the Chinese get how important it is to be less polluting in the future.

Now granted I know that that doesn’t mean that China is going to actually do anything. It could simply be P.R., but it’s a damn site more encouraging than what we get here. Considering we are responsible for 25% of all the pollution being pumped into the atmosphere, I’d say that it’s a shame we are not the leader on this issue. Frankly, why any country playing economic catch-up to us would ever agree to do more than what we are willing to do is beyond me? Except they seem to be willing to at least entertain the notion. Funny that.

Someone is going to own the Green Technology future. The profits will be as big as Silicon Valley and Biotechnology lumped together. Green Tech plays to all of our strengths and exposes the weaknesses of many of our competitors. We should OWN this future for the good of the planet and our economy. To bad that isn’t going to happen.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

I posted this next door because that’s where the original thread was, but there is no way I am going to let that this “die”:

{{{By N-GA

April 10, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this

Die Danish,

Blah blah blah, excuse, excuse, excuse…}}}

AND

{{{By N-GA

April 10, 2007 10:46 PM | Link to this

RW,

Given the Imus theme, I would have expected you to see thru my provocation BS, BS, BS…}}}

LYING COWARD N-GA,

Spare me the lame and pitiful excuses you gave RW - excuses that you don’t even have the guts to direct to me.

Since you didn’t call me a “nappy haired Ho” or anything along those lines your Imus “theme” excuse has zero validity and is exactly the sort of weaselly justification that sociopaths make for amoral and unconscionable behavior.

Just because you, or John Kerry, or Nancy Pelosi, disagree with the foreign policy of the elected President of the United States does not give you the right to purposefully subvert that policy and give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Just because you disagree with a blogger does not provide a moral justification to wish them dead, and then compound the

By Paul

April 11, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Getalife 10:43

Well, as you didn’t specify which party, candidate, or remade party (“the Republican Party absent the influence of neocons and family values fanatics”) it will take to fix “it,” I can accept your answer.

Two years and Pres Bush is going to push through a “merge” with Canada and Mexico? It never ceases to amaze me how, on one hand, critics lambast him for being so bumbingly, stubbornly incompetent, yet in the next breath state as a matter of accomplished fact a grand, sweeping, radical change he’s about to bring about in a few short months.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

“By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

I guess that’s a no, so you are admitting to your juvenile name jacking. What a putz.”

Not by a long shot you insane POS. Once you admit it we’ll all be better off.

There I go spinning my wheels again.

By Chuck

April 11, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Get a life, LuckoDull. We lost the war in Iraq as soon as it started because there were fools like you telling the President the Iraqis would welcome us with open arms. Don’t blame “Libs” for a loss that was in the making when the Bush “brain trust” convinced themselves this was winable. Fools, all fools!

By Walt

April 11, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

“Would you please provide a source that Bush said he was insisting on 100% of his position on the funding bill?”

Bush has said repeatedly that he wants a “clean” bill.

And he continues to say that the Congress is refusing to fund the troops, but no one could be stupid enough to fall for that.

He’s a congenital liar.

Sen. Levin said on Sunday that the Congress would definitely fund the troops, but they could just send the same bill over and over.

And if Bush continues to veto it, it will be on him if the troops really do suffer death or hardship.

I sincerely hope the Congress will play out this hand to the fullest extent.

Right now the system is working the way the Framers intended.

Walt

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Woops. I cut off the last sentence for Lying Coward N-GA. It should have read:

Just because you disagree with a blogger does not provide a moral justification to wish them dead, and then compound the transgression by lying about why you did it.

By AntiRadical

April 11, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Blackadder- You will find the story on Isaakson’s proposal for the use of “naturally dead” embryos and the President’s acceptance of same on page A-3 of the print edition of the AJC.

The story isn’t being carried on internet news for some reason. Occasioanlly, the print edition is superior to the electronic one and vice versa.

I think that all the conservatives here will attest to the fact that I have dogged the Bush administration over this issue for quite a long time. This is a compromise that I can live with. I hope that you will reexamine your position and join me in support of this offering.

By Swiftvoter

April 11, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

“The very fundamental issue is, they don’t know where the hell they’re going,” said retired Marine Gen. John J. “Jack” Sheehan, a former top NATO commander who was among those rejecting the job. Sheehan said he believes that Vice President Cheney and his hawkish allies remain more powerful within the administration than pragmatists looking for a way out of Iraq. “So rather than go over there, develop an ulcer and eventually leave, I said, ‘No, thanks,’ ” he said.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

{{{By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Interacting with RW is like spinning your wheels in chicken sh!t except smellier.}}}

Snake,

It sounds like you’ve got a lot of first hand experience in spinning your wheels in chickensh!t.

By Not on line?

April 11, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

“It’s an affirmation of the need to expand federally funded stem cell research,” said Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia. He said the measure would permit research on cells derived from amniotic fluid and placentas and from embryos that have died naturally.

By @@

April 11, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Quick little story (true) for entertainment purposes only. About the Sopranos…

I’m standing in the grocery store line. A very distinguished looking older guy in line behind me.

I pick up a magazine with a picture of James Gandolfini on the cover, with what appears to be a “nekkid” woman straddling his lap.

I hold it up for the guy behind me, and ask “Do you watch the Sopranos?” “Do you know when the new season starts?”

“No”, he says. “I don’t watch it”.

“You don’t know what you’re missing” I say. “Nude sex scenes, profanity, and lots of violence.” “A great mob series”.

“I love it”, says I.

Anyway, I get to talking to the guy. He has a northeastern accent.

“Where are you from?” I ask.

“The Bronx.” he replies.

“What brings you down south?” I ask.

“Divine intervention” he says, “I’m a minister”. “I moved my family down here from New York.”

“So…I’m finished here” I said, “unless, of course, you’ll be needing a lengthier confession of my sins. Lunch and dinner can wait.”

It was a fun conversation for both of us.

By F451

April 11, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

So the president of the United States is just like a Mafia don?

You’re a class act, Mike.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Walt (or anyone else)

What’s the difference between Congress providing a bill that funds continuation of the war in Iraq, and a bill that funds the troops?

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

AntiRadical - it’s a start but doesn’t go nearly far enough. It’s like waiting for chickens to die a natural death before we eat them.

The way I understand it the live embryos are going to be wasted and not used for anything anyway. What a waste of resources not to mention the total waste of living tissue that could have been beneficial to someone.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

{{{By Chuck April 11, 2007 10:59 AM Get a life, LuckoDull. Don’t blame “Libs” for a loss that was in the making when the Bush “brain trust” convinced themselves this was winable.}}}

My earlier post said that we we’re going to win the Iraq conflict and that there was nothing a candy as-s pinko could do about it, then I rubbed their faces in it.

Now here we have Chuckie Cheese, calling it a “loss,” I guess he’s speaking on behalf of Al Qaeda and the democrat party.

If you want “victory” in Iraq for you and Al Qaeda, coc-k knocker, then shut your filthy little mouth and do something about it.

Cut off funding, coward.

Sitting around spewing your diseased bullsh-it at me a the Republicans ain’t going to win it for you.

You have to be brave, loser.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

BD 11:10

You’re absolutely correct. You are but another patch of it that I’ve driven into.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

Walt - I know that you like to call anyone who disagrees with you a liar, even when you are proved wrong, however, this one really takes the cake. The President has not lied to the Demoncrats in Congress. He has told them he wants a clean bill. They have introduced and plan to pass a bill which they KNOW will be vetoed. That is, in fact, and effort to defund the war and therefore the troops fighting it. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you are not for the mission, then you are against those who are carrying out that mission. I know that logic is not the strong suit of most liberals, but sit back for a minute and add two and two to get four rather than six!

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Paul, A bill funding troops would benefit troops all over the world (pay raises, eqipment, healthcare, VA hospitals, etc.).

Funding the Iraq occupation is a different matter entirely.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Like I said, Snake has a lot of experience with chickensh!t:

{{{By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

AntiRadical - it’s a start but doesn’t go nearly far enough. It’s like waiting for chickens to die a natural death before we eat them.}}}

He sure is into chicken analogies today.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Blackadder

Let me refine the question in the context of the current discussion.

What’s the difference between calling the bill Congress is preparing a bill to fund the troops, or a bill to fund continuation of the war in Iraq?

By Walt

April 11, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

“By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Walt (or anyone else)

What’s the difference between Congress providing a bill that funds continuation of the war in Iraq, and a bill that funds the troops?”

You sound like the Chimperor himself.

The idea is to fund the troops, not the war in Iraq.

Walt

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

“If you are not for the mission, then you are against those who are carrying out that mission.” -Truthsayer

That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. We are not against the troops. We want them home from a disaster of Bush’s making. Keeping the troops there in a civil war is certainly not supporting them. Your backwards logic could only be from listening to and falling for every lie Bush shoves down your throat.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Uh, Walt, that’s not an answer.

How does one fund the war in Iraq without funding the soldiers fighting and dying there? How do we fund vehicle repair for vehicles in Iraq, but say it’s only funding vehicles, not the war? How do we fund buying computers for troops in Iraq and say the computers really aren’t for funding the war effort?

If the idea is “to fund the troops, not the war in Iraq” - how on earth does one do that?!!? That makes about as much sense as saying “the idea is to fund the war in Iraq, not the troops serving there.”

Care to try again?

By Dusty

April 11, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Well, anti-Radical,

I see that you are not a member in good standing with the Liberosa Crime Family. You actually conceded that the Bush administration has left a door open for MORE stem cell use. I do think that shows a try at truth instead of unvarnished conviction of anything our President approves.

May I suggest that you continue in your application of truth. Our President is making tough decisions with honest convictions for the future of our country. I hope you can also see that with clarity.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

BD - is your only purpose here to take cheap jabs at people? How about joining in on a purposeful conversation?

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Paul, Your question seems to be a bit convoluted. The idea is to NOT fund the occupation and therefore get our troops home. No Democrat EVER said we would leave our troops high and dry in the desert. Cut off funding and the only choice is to bring the troops out of that disaster.

Would that be a bad thing?

By @@

April 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Blackadder @ 11:13:

You’re odd (disgusting).

{{{The way I understand it the live embryos are going to be wasted and not used for anything anyway.}}}

And that’s after you compare them to “chickens” to be eaten??????

Are you Jeffrey Dahmer reincarnated?

Off to work with children whose parents gave them birth knowing full-well that they would be a challenge and a joy.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Blackadder - your logic is not that of a sane person. Paul’s 11:31 was right on the mark. I repeat, if you are opposed to the mission, then you are against those who are carrying it out. Defunding the war defunds and undercuts the troops. The fact is, you folks are invested in defeat. It is the clearest path to political victory that you see. You cannot win on the merits of pushing the welfare state and socialism, so you have to hope for defeat and use scare tactics like a bunch of Chicken Littles. It’s pathetic!

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

{{My focus was on your comment “Decades to fix.”}}

Uber-Paul, I think the disaster that W has created regarding America’s standing on the world-stage will take DECADES to fix… never has America been held to such low opinions worldwide than what we have today. America has lost its standing and its power in the rest of the world’s eyes, simply based on W’s arrogance and ignorance… our efforts at diplomacy are being dismissed mostly because W is so late and so lame at the diplomacy table. Our pres. and VP cannot visit any other country without causing riots, death and destruction, simply for showing up in their country!

Contrast this admin’s policies and how they’re viewed worldwide with how previous administrations were viewed — BIG DIFFERENCE, and we have a lot of work to do to fix that. America used to be considered the model for the rest of the world to follow, but that’s no more.

By Dusty

April 11, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

All you “name callers”,

Buy Danish has a perfect right to object when a bloggers posts “Die Danish”. It is the same sentiment the terrorists expressed to Daniel Perle before they slashed his throat and then beheaded him.

Why the management here allows such terrorism to exist on this blog is beyond my understanding. It is wrong. It is against the rules. It is indefensible. It should stop!!

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Snake,

I consider it my duty to expose Leftists as the amoral slime that they are, and I will use whatever means are at my disposal. If quoting you directly is unfair, then there is nothing that I can do to meet your moonbat standards.

In the immortal words of Getalife, GFY!

By Walt

April 11, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

“By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

Uh, Walt, that’s not an answer.

How does one fund the war in Iraq without funding the soldiers fighting and dying there?”

This is a “have you stopped beating your wife?” question.

The idea is to get out of Iraq.

Period.

The way the Congress is working it, the president as Cmmander in Chief will HAVE to get our guys out.

This is the way the Framers expected the system to work if there were an administration run amok.

Walt

By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Blackadder 11:34,

In all seriousness, what I find convoluted is saying a supplemental funding bill for Iraq is not funding the war, but funding the troops. “Funding the troops” is just, as far as I can tell, a euphemism for continuing to fund the war.

Democrats could just as easily pass a restrictive funding bill providing funds to have American forces relocate to the major bases, then have contracts with commercial carriers to withdraw all troops and equipment. Tomorrow. Not a year from now. Tomorrow.

If the bill under discussion wasn’t passed, and Democrats want American forces to remain in Iraq, troops wouldn’t be left “high and dry” in the desert. Numerous options exist. One option would be for DoD to reprogram funds from existing programs. Of course, that may hurt hometown big business interests, but no one ever said that should be a factor.

What I can’t understand is why, if American objectives can’t be met, do Democrats want to pass bills that will keep American troops in Iraq, guaranteeing more will be killed and maimed, rather than saying “we’re outta here now”?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

This one will make Andy (the so called Christian) happy

Geez.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Here we go spinning our wheels again:

“I repeat, if you are opposed to the mission, then you are against those who are carrying it out.” -Truthsayer

I repeat: That is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. We are not against the troops. We want them home from a disaster of Bush’s making. Keeping the troops there in a civil war is certainly not supporting them. Your backwards logic could only be from listening to and falling for every lie Bush shoves down your throat.

By Goldie

April 11, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

{{a bill that funds continuation of the war in Iraq, and a bill that funds the troops?}}

Uber— I’m not sure about the argument, but I believe it may have to do with what the funds are used for, such as training the Iraqi police and providing protection for the borders of the country. The Dems have spelled out how the funds should be used in the bill they sent to the White House. What we want is for our troops to be removed from the day-to-day fighting with the Iraqi citizens…

By Truthman

April 11, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

More smart military men who know The Chimperor’s war is the end of their careers!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/10/AR2007041001776.html

Jesustan Forever!!!

By getalife

April 11, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

w is now known as “T”.

“The Nation magazine opposed this war from the outset because we understood what a disaster it would be,” said Katrina vanden Heuvel. “We never lost our head while too much of the media gave head.”

Clinton reference in 5,4,3….

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Uh huh, OK BD - Pardon me while I engage with the adults here.

Buh bye.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Goldie 11:44

I think “Decades” is a bit long - that’s like saying from the end of WWII to now. Not a great platform upon which to win elections, to my way of thinking. “Elect us. It’ll take decades, but we’ll get there.”

Truthsayer 11:39

” if you are opposed to the mission, then you are against those who are carrying it out. Defunding the war defunds and undercuts the troops. “

I’ll have to disagree with that. The troops are instruments to achieve the mission - they are independent of the policy. One can disagree with a policy (safety inspections of job sites) yet be supportive of those OSHA inspectors charged with conducting the inspections.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Paul 11:44

Good point!

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Getalife,

You have a problem with using “The offensive use of nonlethal chemicals as first-use weapons against terrorists.” which would cut down on “collateral damage” and provide our military with the same tools given to riot police?

Why do you want innocent civilians to die?

BTW, I’m quite sure that Andy meant to say “jump down your throat” not “dump” earlier, and I’m quite sure you know that too.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Paul 11:44

Good point!Let me be more specific - I meant on your response to Truthsayer.

As for your response to Goldie: I think it will take decades to undo some of the horrible policies Bush has implemented. Some not so long. The fact is he’s dome more to harm our standing in the world than any other president I can remember.

He has created more terrorists than ever existed before. That can go on for generations.

By Dusty

April 11, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Paul @11:31,

I couldn’t help but smile over your utter amazement at the convoluted conversions of war funding by liberals. We will have to toughen you up a bit so you won’t be surprised at the utter futility of liberal “reasoning”. They have a propaganda maze they walk and it never ends.

Wind, rain and storms coming this afternoon. Retribution for radicals?? Well, the sky is falling as usually declared by liberals (until they controlled Congress). I shall batten down the hatches and eat barbeque sandwiches. That is more fun than trying to figure the liberal “mind”.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Walt 11:47

“The idea is to get out of Iraq.”

Okay, fine. But why drag it out for months and months and months? That strikes me as immoral. If one accepts American objectives will not be achieved, is one views the situation as hopeless, than providing funds to continue an “Operation Lost Cause” is hypocritical. As I said, Democrats could easily (emphasis added) pass a bill that says “upon this bill becoming law, American forces will begin immediate redeployment to the following posts and the US Air Force, with assistance from the civilian reserve air fleet, will begin immediate redeployment of forces out of theater.”

Easily. So to follow the form of the posts, why would anyone opposed to the War dismiss this course of action and support a course that extends the occupation for months past a year?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Snake,

You are doing a great job of earning your nickname, venomously slithering around like you do rather than dealing with any challenges that are presented and which are based entirely on your own idiotic and dare I say juvenile words.

One more time:

@@ and I both quoted you directly. Why are you whining and fantasizing that you are the adult here?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Bi,

It is Saddam like but “T” does not care about the ongoing slaughter of innocent Iraqis.

Got to save that legacy, don’t you know.

“T’s legacy is a disaster and ongoing. The longer he stays, the longer it will take to repair.

Lets hope the gop will impeach soon.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

“Democrats could just as easily pass a restrictive funding bill providing funds to have American forces relocate to the major bases, then have contracts with commercial carriers to withdraw all troops and equipment. Tomorrow. Not a year from now. Tomorrow.”

No, stupid.

The president is commander in chief of the troops in war time.

And we are sure as Hell at war.

The Congress is doing it exactly right.

Now we can see why Rep. Pelosi ruled out impeachment.

Walt

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

People used to ask “How could there be a person like Hitler?”

We can ask now “How could their be a person like Cheney?”

Walt

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Goldie 11:51

Now that’s an interesting point. I hadn’t heard many specifics of the controlling language in the bill.

I did see from the Washington Post (is that an okay source?” that the Senate version “calls for combat troops to begin withdrawing from Iraq this summer.” It would also “would start troop withdrawals within 120 days of passage, with a March 31, 2008, goal for completing combat operations in Iraq. Some troops could remain in Iraq after that deadline in order to conduct counterterrorism training and security operations.”

The House version is stricter requiring “a firm deadline of Aug. 31, 2008, for the removal of U.S. combat forces.”

Which illustrates my cynicism. That’s over two years from now. Two years. Something keeps nagging at me that those opponents, with a majority in Congress, are not willing to have a timetable no longer than six months (doable) but want to string it out to keep a political issue alive going into the 2008 elections.

Keeping a “lost cause” going for over two years, with the resultant casualties, doesn’t strike me as taking the moral high ground.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Riot police use chemicals like Saddam Hussein?

If that were true then we should expect to find tens of thousands of dead anarchists in mass graves.

Do let us know where they are, okay? We wouldn’t want to let such crimes against humanity go unpunished now, would we?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Iraq is the new battle cry for Al Queda.

Nice work “T”.

Geez

By Craig

April 11, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish-It appears that Blackadder can never back up anything he claims and dismisses anyone that points that out as juveniles. I think there’s a word for that behavior, juvenile perhaps?

Blackadder-Perhaps you feel like you’re spinning your wheels with every conservative here because you aren’t up to the task. That’s certainly what it looks like to an outsider.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

Walt - I know that you like to call anyone who disagrees with you a liar, even when you are proved wrong, however, this one really takes the cake. The President has not lied to the Demoncrats in Congress. He has told them he wants a clean bill.”

Bush has said over and over that the Congress has not funded the troops and that is a flat lie.

The Congress -has- funded the troops; there are conditions Bush doesn’t accept.

But he keeps making soundbites that fool some of the people all of the time.

He lied.

Walt

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Walt 12:07

When one loses the ability to discuss a position with relevant arguments, one resorts to namecalling. How do you and your wife ever decide what to do?

I’m glad to see you recognize the Pres is CiC during war. But Congress can easily insert such language. Happened during VietNam. Or are you arguing that it would be illegal for Congress to insert language stating “the following secret detention facilities, housing suspected terrorists, in which it has been alleged torture and other improper interrogation techniques are used, will be closed and the facilities razed, effective (insert date).” Let’s assume they’re run by the military, to keep it congruent with the CiC’s authority.

Second question: why is it “exactly right” to continue a lost cause for over two years, rather than shutting it down in, say, six months?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

You will find them on the streets of Baghdad, bi idiot.

In case you have not noticed the “surge” is not working.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

“When one loses the ability to discuss a position with relevant arguments, one resorts to namecalling.”

Stop walking into doors and you won’t look stupid.

The Congress can’t order the troops out tomorrow because Bush is CiC.

When things that fundamental have to be explained to you, you’d think for your own self respect you’d slink off and sulk a while.

You’re too stupid even to do that.

Walt

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Walt - You are really good at only giving partial quotes, rather like Al Franken. You left out the part about them sending Bush a bill they KNOW will be vetoed. The fact is he is not lying, you just disagree with him.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

“In case you have not noticed the “surge” is not working.”

Keith Olbermann said last night that there is some evidence that the purpose is now, and always was, to keep our troops in Iraq indefinitely.

Walt

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

No Walt, you are the one too stupid to stop running into walls. You get the stupid, racist, anti-Semite, insipid twit award here every day.

By Dusty

April 11, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

getalife, you silly sycophant of all liberals:

If Bush is “T” then Pelosi is “P” or maybe “P U”.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Walt 12:27

Let’s try this again. I’ll type really s-l-o-w-l-y.

If the Congress can order the troops home in two years (with the President as CiC), why can’t Congress order the troops home in six months?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I will find dead anarchists killed by riot police with non-lethal chemical weapons on the streets of Bagdad?

How high is your fever today?

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Walt you did it again. You are quoting Keith Olbermann, a man who cried a river of tears when the Soviet Union fell and who Chairs the Hate America First Committee! You need to find some more credible sources. By most estimates, the surge is working. You, like Olbermann, need to stop using the same old news source, Al Jezeera.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

“Walt - You are really good at only giving partial quotes, rather like Al Franken. You left out the part about them sending Bush a bill they KNOW will be vetoed. The fact is he is not lying, you just disagree with him.”

Bush said as recently as yesterday that Congress needs to fund the troops.

That’s a lie.

Walt

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty, Bi

Has this forum suddenly been transported to Alice’s Wonderland?

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

The Dept. of Defense is considering an extension of up to 15,000 in theater troops to help keep President Bush’s “surge” plan on target.

According to a Pentagon official, the new US commander, General Petraeus is having to scramble to find troops to implement the surge plan, which really is no sound plan at all. And with new troops either not being recruited or trained fast enough, one of the only options is to extend, by as much as four months, the tours of troops already fighting in Iraq. That’s no surge folks, it’s simply an over-extension of already fatigued troops. Call it another ploy in the “support the troops” mentality that doesn’t care about the troops at all.

Consider too that since the President announced his surge plan in January that US fatalities have increased to over 80 per month, the deadliest first quarter since the war began. The surge seems to be working for all the casket makers, but that’s about it. Iraq sure isn’t much safer than it was three months ago.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Walt - unless you have been living under a rock, and there is a high probablity of that, then you would know that Congress left town on “spring break in Syria” without passing ANY bill whatsoever. So therefore, they have NOT funded the troops! He did not lie. You just did, or you are just plain STUPID!

By getalife

April 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Not chemical yet silly.

Walt,

Yes, to secure their oil and protect that billion dollar embassy.

No end in sight.

What a mess.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

“Walt 12:27

Let’s try this again. I’ll type really s-l-o-w-l-y.

If the Congress can order the troops home in two years (with the President as CiC), why can’t Congress order the troops home in six months?”

Because Bush can deploy the troops as long as he has the cash.

And the Congress is allowing for the time to retrograde as much of our assets as possible.

Bush needs to shift his planning to withdrawl and he needs to start giving the orders now.

We are in the midst — right now — of the worst situation in the history of the country.

I say that now because we have as CiC a man who does not give a fig about the good of the country.

Walt

Walt

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Walt - unless you have been living under a rock, and there is a high probablity of that, then you would know that Congress left town on “spring break in Syria” without passing ANY bill whatsoever.”

They -did- pass a bill to fund the troops to the tune of $120 Billion -before- they left town.

It has the timelines that Bush finds unacceptable.

Walt

By getalife

April 11, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Would you be the cowardly lion or the village idiot?

Geez.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Walt - you truly have a gift for hyperbole and outright exaggeration. You are really going to compare American at war in Iraq with the Civil War or World War II or even the darkest days of the Cold War, or the Great Depression. You really do need to get some GOOD history books not written by Marxist-Leninist kindergarten teachers and learn something rather than just spouting sophomoric bromides you learned at the knee of Jane Fonda and Abbie Hoffmann!

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Walt - they have NOT passed any bill yet. It is still in conference I think, but at any rate, NO bill was sent to the president’s desk before Pelosi went on her “ruin America” junket to kow-tow to the Syrian dictator. That is a FACT. YOU ARE WRONG AS USUAL EVEN ON THE MOST BASIC OF FACTS!

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Queenie Adder, old news, new lies:

“There is a problem in the way the administration reported the surge numbers to begin with,” said Frederick W. Kagan , a resident scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “When they initially reported the numbers they only reported the combat strength of the brigades, and they did not count support troops” and other personnel that the operation would need.

Reported on 3/16/2007.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

What????????????? Maybe Walt the dunce can help you out.

Paul,

I am “Buy Danish” not “Bi-Danish” - I presume you directed that question to Dusty and myself. It IS like Alice and Wonderland here today, just as it is virtually every day - I’m glad you finally noticed!

I hope you also finally got the picture about N-GA, with his latest “contribution”.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Walt 12:42

That answer I understand. But I’m not aware of any statements by the Democratic leadership that it will take DoD over two years to consolidate the people and equipment and ship them out. Somehow, I don’t think their speciality is logistics - and I think some military commanders would take exception to the statement they can’t “retrograde” in less time.

It took not much more than six months for the buildup for Desert Storm I - and that was with a lot more troops and equipment. This past buildup was a lot less. So six months is not at all unreasonable. In fact, it’s quite comfortable. Fact is, it still seems to me the Democratic leadership is treating this like a political issue and is looking for maximum advantage for the -08 elections - at the cost of soldiers’ lives and limbs.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Walt - you truly have a gift for hyperbole and outright exaggeration. You are really going to compare American at war in Iraq with the Civil War or World War II or even the darkest days of the Cold War, or the Great Depression. “

I should think it obvious that I am comparing Bush to Lincoln and FDR - or any other president who cared a fig for the country where Bush makes it so clear he does not.

Walt

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

getalife 12:36

Nice try - but you may want to dust off some of your literature textbooks.

geez :)

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

From Crooks and Liars: Increasingly anxious to appear competent and in control, the Bush gang is reportedly looking for a “war czar” who would oversee the United States’ role in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are, of course, a few problems with this, not the least of which is the fact that no one actually wants the job.

On the surface, shaking up the chain of command like this reeks of desperation. The whole endeavor seems geared towards creating a White House photo op, where the president can say, “See? I’m doing something.”

Except he really isn’t. Even if Bush could find someone for this very bizarre job, what, exactly, would the person do? As Kevin Drum explained, “We already have Secretaries of State and Defense, we already have a military chain of command, and we already have an NSC that’s supposed to coordinate all this stuff. Does anyone truly think that a shiny new White House staffer with no budgetary authority, no bureaucratic support, and little in the way of institutional levers of control is going to be able to magically get everyone on the same page sometime in the next few months? It’s a suicide mission.”

By rushncap

April 11, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Paul — and the Bush administration is not treating this as a political issue?

By Paul

April 11, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Sorry about that - a bit too much shorthand.

Well, N-GA has always been civil with me and I find his positions, posting and reasoning interesting. Challenging, too, in a professional manner.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Paul - I don’t see a 12:36 in today’s postings.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I doubt that Getalife has or ever had any literature textbooks, or history textbooks for that matter.

Heck, even when books like “The Wizard of Oz” are made into movies which saves him the trouble of having to read, he still mixes up the characters.

By Midori

April 11, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

US News & World Report: Bush Pentagon and VA Cheating Iraq vets out of disability benefits

These cretins do Tony proud…..

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Today’s other toon that doesn’t suck

By Paul

April 11, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

rushncap

I’m not sure it’s treated as a political issue (where’s the upside?) because, for all the deference to Gen Petraeus, I’m not sure they clearly see a way to disengage. A clear enunciation (it’s been alluded to) that “here’s the surge, we’ll know by “N” (I believe General Petraeus said Aug ‘06) is working, if the Iraquis are more interested in building a country than killing each other, and if not, it’s adios, amigos.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

“By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Walt - they have NOT passed any bill yet. It is still in conference I think, but at any rate, NO bill was sent to the president’s desk before Pelosi went on her “ruin America” junket to kow-tow to the Syrian dictator. That is a FACT. YOU ARE WRONG AS USUAL EVEN ON THE MOST BASIC OF FACTS!”

The bills are passed. They just haven’t gone to conference yet.

Maybe you don’t know how the government operates.

Since the Senate bill sets a 3/31/08 date for withdrawal and the House bill sets a 9/1/08 (I believe) date for withdrawl, Bush is wailing that the Congress is not funding the troops.

No bill coming out of conference can give him what he wants which is why he is threatening to veto it.

Bush’s rhetoric shows that his handlers see it my way.

Walt

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Conservative Brigham Young Students Protest Cheney Speech: “This Is A Morally Dubious Man”

Everyday is “Alice in Wonderland” for the cowardly lion wingnuts.

There is no place like home……

Geez.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Sorry, BlackAdder 12:59

That was in response to getalife’s 12:46

“Would you be the cowardly lion or the village idiot?”

in response to my wondering if we’d been transported to Alice’s Wonderland.

I’m off for a bite of lunch -

Later-

By Walt

April 11, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

“That answer I understand. But I’m not aware of any statements by the Democratic leadership that it will take DoD over two years to consolidate the people and equipment and ship them out.”

It’s not “over two years.”

The Senate bill has a 3/31/08 date and the House bill I think is 8/31 or 9/1/08. That’s not two years.

They may split the difference when the bill comes out of conference.

Walt

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

I found this in Laura’s textbook:

“This is the morning that kids were invited to the White House for the Easter egg roll. The roll for Laura Bush includes reading a children’s book. It’s called, “Duck for President.” The first lady will read the story of a duck who takes over the farm, then runs for governor, and then runs for the White House. He wins after a recount, but Duck gives it all up to go back to the farm. The duck concludes, “Running a country is no fun at all.”

According to the book’s publisher, “President Duck,” who didn’t realize being president would require a lot of “very hard work,” ends up with “a very bad headache” before passing his duties off to his Vice President.

Sometimes, the jokes write themselves.”

Geez.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Walt,

{{{{No bill coming out of conference can give him what he wants which is why he is threatening to veto it.}}}}

I have to agree with Truthsayer about what a complete idiot you are. If they ever get off Spring break and appoint conferees the conferees can take the timelines completely out of the bill. They can even fund a few more vegetable gardens if they want. When they get done the bill goes back to both houses for final voting and then gets sent to the President.

By Atico

April 11, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Oh how I want the Bush term completed. I want to see he Deomcrat gangsters at work saving our little piece of the world. “You can do it, the terrorist will help.”

By Walt

April 11, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

“This past buildup was a lot less. So six months is not at all unreasonable.”

They have built a lot more infrastructure than in 1991.

One of our bases I believe at Ramadi, has two stores, each the size of a super Wal-Mart.

OPur troops in Iraq even have Baskin-Robins.

Walt

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

This is what the “adults” talk about here?!?!

{{{{{By Blackadder April 11, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this Paul - I don’t see a 12:36 in today’s postings.}}}}}

Wow, I’m not altogether impressed.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Walt - as I do know, obviously, how the government works much better than you, I will give you a much needed civics lesson. The bills have passed the individual chambers known as the House of Representatives and the Senate, but they have NOT been reconciled as they must be and then voted upon by BOTH houses and then sent to the president for his signature. All of this is in the United States Constitution and is usually taught in high school. You were probably asleep in class most of the time. The fact remains that NO BILL HAS BEEN PASSED AND SENT TO THE PRESIDENT’S DESK FOR A SIGNATURE. IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETOED! Therefore, you are WRONG AGAIN! Congress is dragging its feet and they have yet to fund the troops. They have also loaded up these bills with tons of useless pork, which would be a good enough reason to veto it anyway.

By rushncap

April 11, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Paul — and the Bush administration is not treating this as a political issue?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Of course N-GA is civil to you - you’re the only person to the right of Nancy Pelosi who engages him seriously.

The bottom line is that N-GA is a hateful s.o.b. It could be argued that people like Bin Laden are “interesting” too, but I wouldn’t recommend giving them a stage.

N-GA can fake being caring and reasonable for awhile, but sooner or later his Telltale Heart always reveals itself. He just can’t help himself.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

The Dems should go back to the gop work week.

They should give him a bill to veto next year.

Geez.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Walt,

{{{{No bill coming out of conference can give him what he wants which is why he is threatening to veto it.}}}}

I have to agree with Truthsayer about what a complete idiot you are. If they ever get off Spring break and appoint conferees the conferees can take the timelines completely out of the bill. They can even fund a few more vegetable gardens if they want. When they get done the bill goes back to both houses for final voting and then gets sent to the President.”

But that won’t happen.

“House and Senate rules forbid Conferees from inserting in their report matter not committed to them by either House. (See House Rule XXII, Senate Rule XXVIII”

New matter is sometimes submitted, but that won’t be a problem here.

Whatever comes out of the conference committee with have a deadline for withdrawal.

Walt

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Hell, the min. wage bill and all of the first 100 hours come first.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

“The fact remains that NO BILL HAS BEEN PASSED AND SENT TO THE PRESIDENT’S DESK FOR A SIGNATURE. IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETOED! Therefore, you are WRONG AGAIN!”

No bill that goes to the White House based on the votes already cast can fail to have a deadline for withdrawal from iraq.

That is the point.

If Bush vetoes the final bill, an identical bill can be submitted again and again.

And he can veto those until the troops really -don’t- have ammo, food and fuel.

Walt

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

‘I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.’ -Susan Ralston, advisor to Karl Rove

The slowly-unfolding disclosure that some White House aides use non-government e-mail servers to conduct official business may soon be reaching scandal proportions.

As John D. McKinnon writes in today’s Wall Street Journal: “The widespread use of private email accounts by some top White House officials is sparking a congressional probe into the practice and whether it violates a post-Nixon law requiring that White House deliberations be documented.

“A top Democratic lawmaker says outside email accounts were used in an attempt to avoid scrutiny; the White House says their purpose was to avoid using government resources for political activities, although they were used to discuss the firing of U.S. attorneys.”

Most of the e-mail accounts at issue are on Republican National Committee servers. For instance: “Susan Ralston, until recently presidential adviser Karl Rove’s assistant at the White House, appears to have used at least four outside email accounts: a ‘gwb’ domain account, a ‘georgewbush.com’ account, and an ‘rnchq.org’ account — all run by the RNC — plus an AOL account. She once emailed two associates of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, ‘I now have an RNC blackberry which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.’.

“‘At the end of the day, it looks like they were trying to avoid the records act … by operating official business off the official systems,’ said John Podesta, who worked in the White House for the entire Clinton presidency, including a stint as chief of staff.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Checkmate.

Game over.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

“Wow, I’m not altogether impressed.” -Ricky Wingnutsack

That’s nice. Run along now.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Walt 1:06

Good catch - but the essential concept - a time just before the elections as opposed to the minimum possible, say, six months, remains.

Walt 1:11

Yes, there is a lot of infrastructure (buildings and such) but that will remain. We’ll bring out troops, equipment and supplies, so infrastructure doesn’t really affect a timetable for withdrawal.

rushncap 1:15

Please see my 1:02 response to you.

Buy Danish - I’m not much interested in “caring” as I am in “reasonable” and the quality of ideas and how they’re expressed. I appreciate the concern, though.

C’mon - anyone with his taste in wine can’t be all bad!

Now I really am hungry - lunch beckons.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Walt,

The vegetable garden part was a joke. Sheesh…

If the Democrats have a lick of sense they’ll strip the timeline out before sending it to the President, because they are going to pay a huge political price in a veto showdown over troop funding.

Paul’s got it exactly right. If this is a lost cause shut it down instead of dragging it out.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Bon Appetit Paul

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

RW,

You keep forgetting about we the people.

The majority of American people want us out of Iraq.

They will pay the price if it does not happen.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

The Dems should hold their ground. Bush has already been deemed the bad guy in all this. The country DOES NOT AGREE WITH HIM. It’s Bush and the Republicans who will lose even more ground (if that’s possible) by vetoing the bill WITH the time lines in place.

Some here pretend as if the 2006 elections never took place.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Paul,

You are interested in the ideas of people who address comments with “Die Danish”?

Personally, I’m only interested in how I can defeat people like that, not engage them.

Maybe you aren’t to the right of Pelosi, and think it’s okay to meet with the mobster leaders of terrorist states like Assad of Syria? He could be quite the oenophile, after all.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

Lot’s of the people here seem to forget that the 2004 election ever took place too. If the Democrats are so interested in sending their bill up for a veto why won’t they appoint conferees and get it done?

getaclue,

President Bush was elected by we the people.

By Midori

April 11, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Love Your Enemies………………….

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Here’s the next paragraph from Blackadder cut and paste job at 1:25:

“White House officials dispute the criticisms, saying the purpose of the RNC accounts has been to avoid running afoul of another federal law, the Hatch Act. It prohibits many federal officials from engaging in political activity on government time or with government resources.”

I guess he wanted to leave out the part where the White House was following the law.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

RW,

The majority of the American people disapprove of that idiot.

Which part of this do you not understand?:

Harry Reid responds to Bush: ” We are speaking for the American people, he isn’t.”

Checkmate, game over.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

McCain: I Didn’t Need Armed Guard In Iraq

I suppose they forced the body armor on him too.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

getalife,

More people disapprove of Congress than the President. What part of that don’t you understand?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

That sign in the middle of Midori’s link about GFY is very good.

I guess the wingnuts have lost Utah.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I’m still waiting for evidence of people dying from chemicals used by riot police.

The fact that you are quoting Harry Reid to justify your position that we should ignore the elected President’s role as Commander in Chief does not bode well that I will ever get the answers I seek.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

getalife,

That same sign also proves that liberals will believe any lie no matter how many times it’s debunked.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

RW,

That paragraph you posted works around the law not following it.

Are you that stupid or just a paid hack?

Be honest.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Blackadder - I know that you are a really big believer in government by polls. I guess you would have opposed the Lend-Lease Act and the integration of the United States military by President Truman. You also would have opposed Brown v. Board of Education. Bush is doing what is right. He is not governing by poll, or even by what his core constituency wants or the prescription drug program would have never even been considered.

If popular sovereignty were the rule of the day, we would still have slavery as even in the north before the civil war, most people did not want that vile institution eliminated completely in the south. Most northerners looked upon the issue as something which did not affect them.

You, like Walt, need to read a little history and get a little clue. Just because you happen to be on the “right” side of an issue on a given day does not mean that folks will look back in 10, 20 or 50 years and say that you were on the RIGHT side.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

getalife,

If they conducted government business on the private system that’s a violation, but it would also be a violation to conduct political business on the government system.

So far all you’ve got is Congressman Hognose and his fishing expedition.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

A paid hack it is then.

You sold your soul for money.

I will pray for you.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

So many morons, so little time:

Ricky, my source did not include the passage you provided. I pasted the entire article. My article proves they were afoul of the law by using email accounts outside the White House. So once again YOU ARE WRONG. Doesn’t that get tirng?

Truthsayer 1:58 - Not sure where to begin with that long, inaccurate pile of bull.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

getalife,

When you pray which way do you face, the Capitol or the DNC building?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

RW(right wing hack) has sold out like McLiar.

If you could see his eyes, they are black with no soul.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

You DID NOT paste the entire article, you just pasted the part DU excerpted.

If you have PROOF that they violated the law why is Hognose still looking into it rather than indictments being filed?

Showing you up as the fool you are never gets tiring.

By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Blackadder - as I suspected, you crumbled. You liberals just cannot reply when the weight of the evidence is against you. It’s like that old lawyers addage: If the facts are with you, pound the facts. If the law is with you, pound the law. If neither is with you, pound the table. You libs do a lot of table pounding.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Chuck,

I agree with you and hope you are not including me with LuckoDull (his name is Andy and he is insane).

RW,

How much do they pay you to sell your soul?

By Joe Right

April 11, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

I was wondering, how about a cartoon by Luckovich showing several members of the Democratic leadership sitting around a TV set watching a TV show with the title: “THE POWER GRABBERS” superimposed over Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid talking to foreign heads of state in the background?

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

getalife,

As anyone that’s been here long enough knows I stand on the very same principles every day with no regard for party affiliation. You, on the other hand, have no principles at all and simply parrot the daily nutroots talking points.

Sounds like you’re the one that sold your soul.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

RW,

I face left.

Now, answer my questions.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

{{{By Chuck April 11, 2007 10:59 AM Get a life, LuckoDull.}}}

It took you 3 hours and 18 minutes to come up with a response to being mentioned in the same sentence as me?

It is quite an honor for you, I understand.

Don’t let it go to your head.

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By IN THE NEWS

April 11, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

NEED Y”ALLS HELP

FOLLOW LINKS< CONTACT SUNUNU”S OFFICE ASK HIM TO SUPPORT STEM CELL BILL TONIGHT

PLEASE AND THANK YOU

By Walt

April 11, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

“By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Walt,

The vegetable garden part was a joke. Sheesh…

If the Democrats have a lick of sense they’ll strip the timeline out before sending it to the President, because they are going to pay a huge political price in a veto showdown over troop funding.

Paul’s got it exactly right. If this is a lost cause shut it down instead of dragging it out.”

The Framers set the government up to operate a certain way, and it is operating correctly.

Walt

By getalife

April 11, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

No RW,

Still looking for the truth.

Its an outrage Andy and I just saw Chuck’s post.

By IN THE NEWS

April 11, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

DEMS SHOULD NOT BACK DOWN ON TIMELINE SEEMS THE “PRICE” MAY NOT BE THAT HIGH

Poll: More Americans Favor Congress Withholding Funds In Face Of Veto

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

Gosh Wally, thanks for that. Did you have a point?

By Paul

April 11, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish 1:35

I try to stay out of the crossfire when it’s not directed at me. I’ve not had such an exchange with him.

Hmm, I think there may be a couple of people to the left of Pelosi. Kennedy, Rosie - can’t think of many more. Never underestimate anyone who was literally brought up in a household of New Jersey Democratic party machine politics.

BlackAdder 1:34

You may be interested in a different perspective from Dick Morris - looks like Rove read the column:

Link:War Funding Bill Bad For Dems

He has a different perspective.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Edwards is looking good:

“Every day this war drags on it is worse for Iraq, worse for our troops-worse for our country. We don’t need more debate; we don’t need symbolic resolutions; and we don’t need abstract goals-what we need are binding requirements. And we can’t wait until the next president takes office in 2009”

By pinko_hippy_troop-hater

April 11, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Anybody wanna chip in on getting LuckoDull a vacation, and something better to do with his time than whine about printed political cartoons?

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

{{{By pinkohippytroop-hater April 11, 2007 2:46 PM Anybody wanna chip in on getting LuckoDull a vacation}}}

Waikiki Beach would be cool.

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By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

{{{Pope Benedict, elaborating his views on evolution for the first time as Pontiff, says science has narrowed the way life’s origins are understood and Christians should take a broader approach to the question. The Pope also says the Darwinist theory of evolution is not completely provable because mutations over hundreds of thousands of years cannot be reproduced in a laboratory.}}}

Any questions?

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By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I think character matters a great deal and I refuse to indulge people who have none - no matter who they are, what side of the fence they sit on, or who they are talking too.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

I love what you’ve done with the server ml. It’s a blast landing at random points of the day every time you load the page. It really makes for a good flow of dialogue too, don’t you know!

LuckoDull,

The North Shore is a lot more fun and a whole lot less crowded.

By Question of the Day

April 11, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

What is the bottom line meaning of ‘winning in Iraq’?

By Power of Light

April 11, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

The Light is going to hear Obama speak at Georgia Tech this Saturday. Anybody want to come along?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Sure, Edwards is just a terrific surrender monkey. He’s too much of a coward to debate on Fox News, but I wonder what he thinks of Madame Pelosi having unauthorized “diplomatic” meetings with terrorists like Assad, and maybe even Ahmadinijead.

…Mr. Obama’s decision (not to debate on Fox News) comes three days after former Sen. John Edwards, another Democratic presidential candidate, announced that he was pulling out of the Fox-sponsored debate.//Democrats have been under pressure from (caterwauling)liberal activists to avoid Fox-hosted debates. Last month, the Nevada Democratic Party canceled a debate that Fox was to co-sponsor in August

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

RW: I like crowds. Especially bikini wearing crowds.

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By Truthsayer

April 11, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

I see that Blackadder had no reply to my last post. He is speechless, so the world is a better place.

By Cal

April 11, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Great new WINNING news just out of the Pentagon. Further proof that we are WINNING and will continue to WIN. Let’s have some more Iraq WAR victory parties and celebrations. You Repunks deserve something for your efforts!

By Answer Has Been There for Four Years

April 11, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

1) Remove Saddam Husein and his sons from power and verify the dismantling of WMD programs, because Saddam refused to do so. - Done and we will never again have to worry about Saddam’s intention to acquire WMD’s, Hoo Wah!

2) Free elections - one round is done and the next will be even more telling of Iraq’s direction.

3) Establish internal Iraqi forces that can defend themselves from regional forces and protect the Iraqi Citizens from internal militias. Proving a little difficult, but several provinces are being controlled by Iraqis and Congress unanimously approved Gen Patraeus (sp) and his plan.

The first two have been completed and the last is a work in progress. Just because they have been telling you there was “no plan” doesn’t mean you should forever be ignorant.

By RE

April 11, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

I see andy is getting ready for the “Rush Limbaugh Youth Outreach” tour in the dominican republic.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

{{{By Power of Light April 11, 2007 3:20 PM The Light is going to hear Obama speak at Georgia Tech this Saturday.}}}

POL: Are you a woman?

Why would anyone else desire to see Snowflake?

What could he possibly say that would be of interest?

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By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

{{{Madonna herself also has a collection of fuel-guzzling cars, including a Mercedes Maybach, two Range Rovers, Audi A8s and a Mini Cooper S. Yet she will headline the London concert to “combat the climate crisis”.}}}}

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“Global warming” my as-s:

Just 10 days into April, temperatures have averaged 42 degrees Fahrenheit (5.5 Celsius), about one degree warmer than the average for April 1874, the coldest on record, said Michael Silva, meteorologist with the National Weather Service’s Upton, New York, station.

Cowards.

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By Power of Light

April 11, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Luckodull,

Are you a skunk? The stench in your question makes about as much sense as the name you call yourself.

Obama is a presidential candidate that has demonstrated professionalism and integity since he’s been in office. The Light doesn’t know if he’s going to win, but its worth hearing what he has to say.

By Joe Right

April 11, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Bush fired 8 attorneys, Clinton fired 93. Do the math.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Truthsayer - to answer your BS would be to validate it to some degree.

I will answer one part that is particularly moronic.

“He is not governing by poll, or even by what his core constituency wants or the prescription drug program would have never even been considered.”

We are his core constituency. We are his boss. Presidents are elected to serve the country, not their vanity or their party. Bush has done nothing but.

Please don’t tell me you think the prescription drug program is a good thing for Americans. If so you are even more deluded than you appear.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

POL: Have you seen the full color photo of him conducting partisan political business in his Senate office?

The way the libs have been talking lately, that will get you sent to prison for many, many years.

I guess he could say he was snorting coke that night and didn’t know where he was at.

That will get him a pass with you candy as-ses.

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By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Sorry I can’t stick around for Truthsayer’s inane, inaccurate response but I’m off to the office for a few minutes. I have to correct a data problem caused by one of my underlings. Just so happens he is a Bush supporter. Go figure.

Have a wonderful evening all.

By RE

April 11, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

I don’t think it is the dems who are under pressure here if GWB vetos the troop spending plan. GWB has nothing to lose and his only out is a complete cut off of funds. Then he has the oppertunity to blame the dems for the war he was just about to win, kind of like vietnam.

The public supports the withdrawl plan. The public has lost confidence in GWB. The pressure is going to be on the GOP reps and senators to override the veto. They are going to be up for reelection in 08. If they let GWB’s veto stand, it will be they who have defunded the troops.

By Midori

April 11, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

((((Bush fired 8 attorneys, Clinton fired 93. Do the math.))))))))

the level of ignorance and stupidity doesn’t even phase me anymore.

By Power of Light

April 11, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

What are you talkng about Lucko? If have the link, let me see it.

By Nucular

April 11, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

We continyew to win thee war in Eye Rocky. Big nu news from thee Pentugone 2day 4 nu stratagy to keep winning. U chickenhawks hav dun yore work reel good. Can we hav sum more Eye Rocky victory celbrations n prades jus like thee good ol days under Bail Out Bush thee father? God bless Bushie and God bless Mercah. N lets git that evul Imus traitor n replace him with Al n Jesse. How dare he in sult Thee Singing Sisters of Salvation?? Praise the Lord.

By Walt

April 11, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

“Why would anyone else desire to see Snowflake?”

Don Imus would love you.

Walt

By Nucular

April 11, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

We continyew to win thee war in Eye Rocky. Big nu news from thee Pentugone 2day 4 nu stratagy to keep winning. U chickenhawks hav dun yore work reel good. Can we hav sum more Eye Rocky victory celbrations n prades jus like thee good ol days under Bail Out Bush thee father? God bless Bushie and God bless Mercah. N lets git that evul Imus traitor n replace him with Al n Jesse. How dare he in sult Thee Singing Sisters of Salvation?? Praise thee Lord.

By Blackadder

April 11, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

One more for the road:

What former Bush backer said this?

We’ve got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we’ve got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can’t even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car….I hardly recognize this country anymore. The President of the United States is given a free pass to ignore the Constitution, tap our phones, and lead us to war on a pack of lies. Congress responds to record deficits by passing a huge tax cut for the wealthy (thanks, but I don’t need it). The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we’re fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving pom-poms instead of asking hard questions. That’s not the promise of America my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I’ve had enough. How about you?

By Joe Right

April 11, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

No kidding, liberals have been so out of phase for so long is not even funny anymore.

By Joe Right

April 11, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

No kidding, liberals have been so out of phase for so long is not even funny anymore.

By Power of Light

April 11, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

All charges are being dropped against the Duke Lacrosse team. Where’s Al “pimp” Sharpton when you need him?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Its not funny anymore.

Just pathetic.

The Pentagon is pathetic

w is pathetic

They are not libs but the next President has an opputunity to be one of the greatest if they can clean up w’s disater.

By steve-o

April 11, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Light,

Steve-o may be at Tech on Saturday to hear Obama as well.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Fix my spelling BD.

Thanks.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Debate on Faux News?

Why, Dems do not watch that crap.

By Power of Light

April 11, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Want to go with me and Steve-o to hear Obama this wekend?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

RE,

Just when I think you’ve reached the outer limits of moronic convergence you come out with this:

{{{By RE

April 11, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

I see andy is getting ready for the “Rush Limbaugh Youth Outreach” tour in the dominican republic.}}}

Only you could think that Waikiki Beach is in the Dominican Republic.

I bet you think Iraq is near Okinawa too.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Whenever you see something from Blackadder it always a good idea to look at what he leaves out.

{{{{SAN JOSE, Calif. — Pitching his plans for the new economy, Sen. John Kerry was embraced on Thursday by an icon of the old, Lee A. Iacocca, the former chairman of the Chrysler Corp.}}}}—Jody Wilgoren, New York Times

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Snake,

On what basis are we taxpayers paying you for your service in absentia for the DoD? Are you paid by the hour, week, or day to do nothing but blog and spread your BS propaganda?

I want a refund from the IRS.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

I should note that the excerpt I quoted at 4:33 was from June 25, 2004. For sticklers you can take an apostrophe “s” and insert it where appropriate.

Buy Danish,

Isn’t it Truth?man that pretends to work for DoD?

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

{{{By Power of Light April 11, 2007 3:52 PM What are you talkng about Lucko? If have the link, let me see it.}}}

POL: Why would you go see a man that you know nothing about? Just because of the way he looks?

That’s kind of weird.

Effect of Obama’s Candor Remains to Be Seen Senator Admitted Trying Cocaine in a Memoir Written 11 Years Ago-Washington Post

Remember all that left wing babbling and foaming at the mouth about Bush being a cokehead, even though there is no proof of that absurdity anywhere in the world, here we got Snowflake ADMITTING it and the WaPo picking up the story.

Ain’t the silence deafening?

Chirp, chirp, chirp.

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By Power of Light

April 11, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Luckodull,

Why are you stuck on his looks? Are you gay or something? The Light wanted to see the link so that he would know what the h* you were talkng about!

Thanks.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

I think being a cokehead became a leadership asset to the moonbats about the same time that they started viewing adultery as a bad thing.

By Midori

April 11, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Had Enough?

Am I the only guy in this country who’s fed up with what’s happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We’ve got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we’ve got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can’t even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, “Stay the course.”

Stay the course? You’ve got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic. I’ll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!

You might think I’m getting senile, that I’ve gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore. The President of the United States is given a free pass to ignore the Constitution, tap our phones, and lead us to war on a pack of lies. Congress responds to record deficits by passing a huge tax cut for the wealthy (thanks, but I don’t need it). The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs. While we’re fiddling in Iraq, the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving pom-poms instead of asking hard questions. That’s not the promise of America my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for.

I’ve had enough. How about you?

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

CBS called me a little while ago and asked if I thought Bush was doing a good job.

I usually tell them “well, of course” and they hang up on me right away but today I said “hell no,”

This time they stayed on the line, it sounded like they were groping themselves in joy and excitement, I could hear them moaning, “this gets the number down to 35%, great.”

I tried to tell them that I dissaprove because he won’t stomp on the wanker liberals like they need to be stomped, but those libs were breathing so heavy they couldn’t hear me.

Glad I could make you happy, Goldilocks.

{{{By Goldie April 11, 2007 9:02 AM {{What do you know, it looks like I’m a member of the 70% crowd today.}} Good for you, Andy-Dull. Come away from the dark side for awhile…}}}

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By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

See what I mean about parrots? Now Midori is quoting that Kerry campaigner and making believe he suddenly became a disgruntled Republican, just like Blackadder tried to do earlier.

I guess the scribbler will throw together one of his incoherent rants to claim another supporter has jumped ship.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

POL: O.K. I won’t talk about your sexual orientation anymore.

Here’s the other link in case you have doubts:

Photo: Obama illegally invites campaign adviser into Senate office

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By Midori

April 11, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Got that gangrene cleared up yet, RW?

Pretty hard typing while scratching so vigorously, isn’t it?

No wonder you make little or no sense.

Oh wait.

You didn’t make sense before you contracted your infection, either.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Parrot,

Why aren’t you standing in line for Iacocca’s book? I swear it’s awfully easy to get you BDS afflicted idiots to part with your money. Just say “Bush Sux” and slap a $20.00 price tag on it.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

{{{Pretty hard typing while scratching so vigorously, isn’t it?}}}

Midori,

Like Snake and his chicken ranch tales, I can only infer that you have had, err, “hands on” experience typing while scratching.

RW,

You’re right. I can’t imagine why I confuse Snake and TruthIman.

Snake,

I still want a refund.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Probably because they both lie through their teeth every time they post something.

For instance, Blackadder rushes TO the office to fix his underling the Bush supporter’s screw up at exactly the same time he rushes OUT of the office every day.

I think I’m going to start selling keystroke recording software to my small businesses customers that don’t have to worry about government or union interference. I should just charge them a percentage of what they save when I weed out all their dead weight.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

“Christian Right preaches Liberal evil:

Members of the radical Christian End Times movement are being taught to believe that America is ruled by evil, clandestine organizations disguised as liberal groups. As a result, the fearful are hoping for the end.”

Hahahahaha.

Ahh man,

Hey idiots, you are running this disaster.

Geez.

Unfreakingbelivable.

Bwhahahahahaha!

That is hilarious.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Here is a thought wingnuts.

End it yourselves like the other cults.

The comet is coming, quick, drink this.

Bwhahahahahaha!

Ah man, that is rich.

By BuyDanish'sJohn

April 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the hummer BD! You were exceptionally good today. Enjoy that crisp new 10 spot baby.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

A war Czar.

We have a king that can’t do sh-it and now he can’t find a czar to take his place.

Where did my country go?

Geez.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

gitmo: Muslims are the cult that kill themselves to get to heaven, you know, your side in the war on terror.

Plus they try to take as many innocent people as they can with them.

I remember that this makes you happy when it happens.

I don’t think the Christians will come through for you.

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By RE

April 11, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON, DC—In response to increasing criticism of his handling of the war in Iraq and the disaster in the Gulf Coast, as well as other issues, such as Social Security reform, the national deficit, and rising gas prices, President Bush is expected to appoint someone to run the U.S. as soon as Friday.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Do us all a favor and drink that kool aid cult freak.

Its the libs not the Muslims idiot.

Geez.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Which side did you say you faced when you “pray”?

You know, it’s really rude to laugh at a “joke” and not share it’s content with the rest of us. What is the source for your LYAO hysteria fit?

I’d really like to see it in context. You’ve already admitted they are a “radical group”. Are they from Kansas by any chance?

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Bi-Danish,

I have enjoyed your posts today. I’ve accomplished exactly what I expected. You reacted like a golf ball teed up in a tile bathroom.

Andy is the Howard Stern of this blog, and you are the Don Imus. You call people names daily, primarily using animals in the description. You can dish it out, but you can’t take it. If you were not so pathetic, I would be LMAO at you.

I won’t compete with you (or pander) for Paul’s attention or approval. You can try to bring him into our issues, I’m not surprised that you seek support elsewhere.

I simply engage Paul in reasoned discourse because he brings his own thoughts and conclusions to the debate, not those of some extremist web site. If he decides that he would rather not continue that discourse, it will be his choice and my loss.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Well, it’s nice to see justice finally prevails. Prosecutors dropped all charges against the Duke lacrosse players. I listened to the announcement - the spokesman excoriated Nifong. Repeatedly. That, and he pronounced the accused “innocent.” Not “lack of evidence,” or “suspicious” or “not provable.” Innocent.

Think of the hell the families went through - heard one report they’d spent close to a million dollars on lawyers so far. Well, maybe a heartfelt apology, a la Imus, from Rev Jackson, that Nation of Islam spokesman, the Duke faculty who signed the letter condemning the innocent, and a few others, is in the offing?

As I understand it, if Nifong is censured, shown to have acted with malice and a disregard for the evidence, he opens himself up to a civil suit regarding the case. I sure hope he has a good liability policy.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

{{{Its the libs not the Muslims idiot.}}}

Getalife,

Pardon the addendum to my last post.

Libs are also members of a cult of suicide bombers who take innocents out with them on their way out?

It appears that the entire kool aid supply in the world has been consumed by you.

Thanks for the admission though. Liberals are suicidal terrorists!

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

Its the cult blaming the libs idiot.

You spew about libs all the time and now I know why.

It is hilarious cult freak.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

F you jerk. You didn’t make some off hand remark or call someone a name. You implicitly put out the wish of yours that she DIE.

You’re a disgusting piece of worthless garbage. You have no soul and no feelings. You bring your own family members into the discussion here to beg for our sympathy and then you wish death on a poster you disagree with politically.

Are you trying to one up that idiot, Blackadder, that wants to punch people if they don’t march to his political drummer?

If you had an ounce of decency you would apologize to Buy Danish, but instead you taunt.

GFY and I hope you rot in hell when your day comes.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Nasty Boy N-GA,

Blah Blah Blah. How dare I call Midori a parrot, Blackadder a snake, and you a goat! Why, that is morally equivalent to saying “DIE N-GA”.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Paul,

That wasn’t a spokesman it was the Attorney General of North Carolina.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Hey wingnuts,

Who is the cult leader blaming the evil libs?

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Did you get into the Crown a little early today?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Where’s the source to your hysteritic story? Can you give me that along with the details on dead anarchists who are victims of chemical warfare?

btw, you may want to learn what the word “cult” means too if you’re going to throw it around like the ignorant fool that you are.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

My apologies one more time for paying so much attention to Getalife.

{{{By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Hey wingnuts,

Who is the cult leader blaming the evil libs?}}}

YOU TELL US, OKAY? IT’S YOUR MOONBAT STORY.

Give us the little blue lines.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

Wow - thanks for the clarification. As I said, I was working and listening - split attention. That makes the remarks even more momentous. I do rather feel sorry for the accuser, too - what an absolutely crappy life she’s made for herself. BTW - feeling sorry for someone does not mean I excuse, condone or feel any responsibility towards. Just a “how lousy to have a life like that” comment.

On a more political vein, I see Hillary has come out with comments about the Imus flap, saying “”I’ve never wanted to go on his show and I certainly don’t ever intend to go on his show, and I felt that way before his latest outrageous, hateful, hurtful comments.”

She’s consistent. She doesn’t give interviews to anyone who might ask her hard questions. Doesn’t bode well for the free flow of information and the public’s right to know. I wonder if she’d be the first President to cancel press conferences?

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

RW…the R-ight W-ing apologist hypocrite…he proves it every day by the positions he assumes.

Hey RW…tell us again why you have never worn the uniform?????

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Pardon me, but who are them peoples lighting themselves off in Baghdad damn near every day, those are Christians?

And who does gitmo cheer on in this war against Bush, ain’t it the same as Al Qaeda?

And if you cheer on suicide bombers because they score points against Bush, don’t that make you a cult member or even worse, a cult groupie?

So what the hell is he laughing about?

Is this happy cult day?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

It is a Baptist preacher and very cult like wanting the end of times.

It fits all you wingnuts because ya’ll blame the liberals for everything even though “T” and his mob are destroying our country.

It did make sense unless you believe in this cult.

If you are not in this cult, the buck stops with “T”. Period.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

RW is on the side that is against willing people to die just because you disagree with them.

We already know what side you’re on.

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Bi-danish,

What added to the hilarity was your begging to AJC Management: “By Buy Danish April 10, 2007 10:17 PM | Link to this The Management, My apologies for posting after 7:00 EST. As you can see your rules don’t do a thing to prevent “people” like N-GA from compulsively exposing their depraved hearts and deranged minds - no matter what time of day or night it is.

So you keep a spare window open after hours just in case there is an emergency that compels you to post, then you “apologize” for doing so. How do you spell hypocrisy? BI-DANISH!!!

LMAO

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

LINK TO THE FREAKING STORY OR STFU.

Okey dokey?

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Paul,

In the Q & A after the statement the AG was asked if they were going to charge her. He said they didn’t think they should and made reference to some sealed documents. He also said she might actually believe the various different stories she’s told, so I think there are some mental issues that we should be sympathetic to.

As for Nifong, it’s a damn shame that he has immunity for anything he did in the course of his duties that harmed the families. They have a chance to go after him over statements he made to the press etc., but it’s pretty tough. I think the County or at least the State should voluntarily reimburse the legal fees the families had to incur.

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

So, when you spew libs, blah, blah, blah it is obvious you are in a cult that preaches that crap.

Is your cult leader Rush, Pat or Jerry?

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

What time was it that you posted, idiot?

After 8:00 as I recall.

Do you even know what the word “hypocrite” means? You may want to look up “Jackass” while you’re at it.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

1971/72 JROTC

Now GFY

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Bi-Danish…you failed to notice that my after hours post did not beg forgiveness from AJC management. You are simply dumber than a rock.

Still LMAO at you

By getalife

April 11, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

LOOK IT UP AND STFU CULT FREAK!

Google cult.

Bwhahahahaha!

Wingnuts, ooooh those evil libs.

Geez.

By Paul

April 11, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

That’s an excellent idea. I’ll have to check - possibly it will come up in the postscript - but I thought I recalled hearing Nifong would be open to suits if it was shown he was intentionally derelict in his duties.

getalife,

I haven’t been able to follow the “cult” thing, but if it’s a Baptist minister and his followers, so what? As is true with much of the Christian ribbing that goes on, who are they hurting? If they want to believe what they do, why not? If they believe in a literal end of days, well, fine.

Much better to be concerned with an apocalyptic leader who thinks it’s his divine duty to usher in the final, fiery war between good and evil to make way for the return of his Messiah. No Christians there - I mean that leader of Iran who’s bent on obtaining nukes and has said very clearly and publicly how he’d use them and why.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

What’s this lunatic talking about? I don’t know about BD, but every time I open the page it opens with a comment box no matter what time it is.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Clueless Idiot N-GA,

Do you know what the word SARCASM means? I was making a point about the AJC’s useless and idiotic rules, not “begging forgiveness”.

Believe me, I am not in the least bit worried that I am going to be 86’d from the AJC’s blog, particularly right after you willed me to die.

Getafreakingclue,

Link to the story, okay?

By getalife

April 11, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Here is your cult story

Stop blaming libs for w’s mess.

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Unlike you, I actually know what a cult is, and I am not a member of one, nor do I have friends of acquaintances even vaguely interested in belonging to one.

RW,

That’s right. The only problem I have is that the server is so slow that it often takes an intolerably long time for a page to open up.

Paul,

Getalife is incapable of sourcing his moonbat claims. So far the only thing we know for sure is that he is talking about some “radicals”.

By LuckoDull

April 11, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this

{{{By Paul April 11, 2007 6:57 PM Much better to be concerned with an apocalyptic leader who thinks it’s his divine duty to usher in the final, fiery war between good and evil to make way for the return of his Messiah.}}}

That would be the good cult to these pinkos®, anyone who preaches against America and sends their suicide bombers out in the war against Bush, you will never hear a lib laughing at them. Only the most awe inspiring respect do they have for these killers.

It’s the peaceful Christians that they reserve all their foaming at the mouth rage and anger for.

You know, the safe enemy.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ®

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Getaclue,

No wonder you waited until the last moment to post your story. You didn’t want us to have time to read it and respond. You’re right - it is hilarious - but not in the way you imagined.

Walmart, fast food restaurants and “corporatists” blah blah blah?

Puhleaze.

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Now it’s time for Orecchiette Primavera with sausage accompanied by a 1997 vino nobile di montepulciano reserva.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I think the date is wrong on that story. That was an April 1 not 10 story. Did you notice they are also preaching that Islam and the radical right are problems?

I’m not sure how many people can get past the Best Value Inn, the Taco Bell, and the discount liquor store to get to this all powerful church of yours, but thanks for the laugh!

By Buy Danish

April 11, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Pompous A* N-GA,

As I recall you used a sausage analogy when emoting histrionically about the Vietnam War yesterday.

Bon appetit, jackass.

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this

Bi-Danish,

Enjoy your Alpo and Ripple….

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

So less than an hour after sitting down to his Orecchiette Primavera with sausage accompanied by a 1997 vino nobile di montepulciano reserva he’s back on here b!tching about Buy Danish??

I guess this lying bastard really went to the pool hall to beg for a chili dog and a Billy beer again.

By N-GA

April 11, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this

There goes Bush’s biggest apologist…a hypocrite without equal. RW, you really strive to be the worst at what you do. No one will hold their breath waiting for you to criticize your alter-ego Andy. I guess you must know one another in the biblical sense.

By RW-(the original)

April 11, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this

N-GA,

If you promise to hold your breath the rest of the night I’ll criticize Andy in the morning.

By @@

April 11, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this

I thought goats ate anything and everything.

{{{By N-GA April 11, 2007 7:12 PM}}}

{{{Now it’s time for Orecchiette Primavera with sausage accompanied by a 1997 vino nobile di montepulciano reserva.}}}

Man, it sure would be great if we could stock our food pantry at Church with your extravagant fare there N-GA.

Non-perishables is all we’re able to store.

We do give grocery coupons to accompany their take homes, just in case they’d like some fresh fruit, meat and dairy.

A “balanced” and “nutritious” diet is important.

But what you’re dining on tonight probably “ISN’T AT ALL IMPORTANT” to the less fortunate among us, and it sure isn’t important to me.

Bon appetit Marie!!!!!!!!