Mike Luckovich

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 7:08 AM | Link to this

Can Valerie Plame put on her little prison jumpsuit?:

Where were congressional Republicans when Valerie Plame testified to a completely different version of events concerning her role, or lack of it, in recommending her husband for the Niger trip? Where were they when their Democratic counterparts were sermonizing over the exposure of the covert status of the already exposed, non-covert CIA desk agent?

Or maybe she could wear a nice perjury charge around her neck?

Lock Valerie up.

Now.

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By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 7:32 AM | Link to this

The woman didn’t know if she was “covert” but complained to her superiors that she was “outed?”:

When she testified to the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform Ranking Member of the committee Rep. Tom Davis (R.-Va.) asked Plame, “The Intelligence Identities Protection Act makes it a crime to knowingly disclose the identity of a covert agent, which has a specific definition under the act. Did anyone ever tell you that you were so designated?” Wilson didn’t give a straight answer. She told Davis, “I’m not a lawyer.”

Put this bitc-h in jail.

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By DebbieDoRight

March 20, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

Libby — GUILTY of perjury. Move on already.

Great toon Mike. Dumbya really looks like the chimperor in charge!!

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

During this year, the Bush Administration has requested $1 trillion for the Department of Defense. $9 billion a month is being expended for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, including a $2 billion a month logistic trail for transporting equipment and personnel into Iraq.

Over 3,200 of our sons and daughters have lost their lives in Iraq and close to 25,000 have been wounded, to include thousands of traumatic brain injuries and hundreds of limb amputations. The cost of disability benefits as a result of this protracted and intense war will be staggering. A recent report by the Harvard University School of Government put the total cost of providing medical care and disability benefits to veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan at $350 to $700 billion…

Was the return worth the investment?

By Peter

March 20, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

I was in D.C. on Saturday - see slide #7 - with my Georgia state and VFP flags. Hard to reconcile how the veterans of a draft era have become so pro-government, how they “support the troops” multiple re-deployments and in light of the injured Veterans’ medical treatment.

Bring the troops home NOW.

By regulator

March 20, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

Great toon Mike. G.K. Chesterson once wrote: “There is but an inch of difference between the cushioned chamber and the padded cell.” Andi has passes that inch of difference.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 20, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Flight Suit? No Way.

Straight Jacket? Very Possibly!

Orange Prison Jumpsuit? I sure hope so!

Peace.

By Peter

March 20, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

There’s something about an unprovoked invasion of another country I can’t support.

(The concept opens up images of prior war crimes tribunals. Since the victor is never tried for war crimes, I can see why Duh-bya and company hope they don’t lose.)

By Jesus

March 20, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By mountain man

March 20, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

Every time the neo-cons know they’re nailed to the wall they try to change the subject. It doesn’t matter if its Dumbya, Snow, or even our own little nattering nabob of nothingness, Andy/Andi Dull.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Bush gets up every morning wanting to put on that fun little flight suit, completely oblivious of the suffering and loss of the thousands of families in the US and Iraq who have been so terribly impacted by his cavalier decision to invade Iraq. But of course he’s an elite and he’s never had to live a real life.

By @@

March 20, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

ml, this Pulitzer Prize award thingy? Do they have one for “recycling” because THAT’S one you clearly deserve?

About the mission, sometimes successes are subtle and go unnoticed by those who choose not to see.

Keep Your Eye on These Arab Unity Governments

((The rise of Islamist political parties in the Middle East, and the simultaneous transformation to democratic systems of government are the dominant political motifs in the region. Each can complement the other, says Rami G. Khouri.))

((Two aspects of the Islamist transition to mainstream democratic governance are important to watch: First, it is much more important to assess the local verdict on the Islamists in government than to ask what Israel, the United States or Europe feel about all this. Second, at the domestic level, the Islamists will be judged primarily by their record in formulating and implementing sensible policies and responding to their constituents’ needs, rather than in merely expressing popular grievances and repeating the ills of imperialism and the injustices of Zionism.))

((Rockets, rifles, resistance, and communal self-assertion brought Hamas and Hezbollah to the point where they are now entrusted with a major share of governance. They must quickly show that they have answers and policies for the socio-economic and political issues that will improve the well-being of all their citizens.))

Also…

Russia Shows Signs of Dissatisfaction With Iran

((On March 12, Russian news agencies quoted an anonymous senior official in Moscow who accused the Iranians of abusing Russia’s approach to the dispute, thus undermining Russia’s image. The source made it clear Iran’s conduct could not continue and urged the Iranians to “answer for themselves.”))

You need a “magnifying” glass ml, not a “pinhole” camera.

By Neos Make Liberals Look Good

March 20, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Liberal lawmakers may sway key vote on Iraq war

King George and his merry band of neo-puritans return liberals to power! Shiite even a liberal has got more good sense and credibility than a neo.

Hah, hah, hah, hah, hah, hah. Neos are the world’s greatest contortionists. Have you ever seen another group of individuals with the universal ability to screw themselves in the a$$ so adroitly?

By Eric

March 20, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

This is not cartoon, it’s a depiction of an actual event. Excellent, Mike!!!

By gadem

March 20, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Good Toon Mike. Next time you may want to make W a little smaller, and then sit him on top of the desk with a little toy desk and little toy soldiers surrounding him…since war is a game to him. Another cartoon idea would be to draw all of these keyboard commandoes like Dull and his ilk sitting around in their luxurious moble homes…

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

DDR,

Perhaps you’re not aware that the House of Representatives just held hearings on Plamegate and that Ms. Plame Wilson may have perjured herself?

Furthermore, she and her lying husband have civil lawsuits in the works?

This has nothing to do with the Libby Trial.

By Lord Help Us

March 20, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

BD,

Instead of whining on this blog that Valerie Plame ‘may have perjured herself,’ why don’t you make your case to the BUSH JUSTICE DEPT?

Of course, the case would run up against General Hayden’s (FYI - head of the CIA) own statements that Ms. Plame was, in fact, covert at the time whe was outed.

But, don’t ever let facts get in the way of superficial, partisan, immoral talking points…

Keep us posted on your appeals to the BUSH JUSTICE DEPT, please.

By @@

March 20, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Again…under the “magnifying” glass.

Iran lifts ban on conservative website

((Iran lifted a ban on a popular conservative news website that published articles critical of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, AFP reported.))

((“Following an order of the State Council the ban on ‘Baztab’ was lifted and this site was reopened,” said a message on the restored website that had been shut down in February by the culture ministry.))

((The ministry of culture and Islamic guidance had declared Baztab illegal for “acting against the constitution, disrupting national unity and spreading lies.”))

Ya’ know ml, with all the restrictions the AJC has placed on its’ bloggers, it would be great if they would give us back our “italics” and “bolding” capabilities.

We keep asking, but it appears to be falling on “deaf ears”.

By DebbieDoRight

March 20, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

{{Perhaps you’re not aware that the House of Representatives just held hearings on Plamegate and that Ms. Plame Wilson may have perjured herself?}}

Well the key words here are MAY HAVE. And if they ARE found guilty of perjury that proves our system of justice does in fact work. Sort of like how it worked for Scotter Libby.

By @@

March 20, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Now this one is looking through the “magnifying glass” with a little humor.

Russia And Iran: One Big Muddle

Too cute!!!

By GAK62

March 20, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Hey Lucko Dull,

Why are you such a hypocrite???

When Gore was VP, you Fascists on the Right lost your minds over campaign phone calls he “may have made” from his VP office. (BIG FREAKIN’ DEAL!!!)
Now VP Cheney “may have been” involved in the outing of a CIA operative and you want to blow it off as no big deal. You’re twisted dude! Stop rooting for the GOP like you root for your favorite football team!

By Peter

March 20, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

@@ - So, the withholding of bold and italic fonts is censorship? (I hope you find life beyond this blog, or perhaps we’re better off with you where you are.)

By J Satterly

March 20, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Speaking of which, if Bush really was AWOL from the Gaurd during ‘Nam, how did he learn to fly that jet? Was he part of a secret government program to train Chimps to fly? Maybe he read the Cliff Notes before making that carrier landing?

LEGAL NOTICE: This cartoon violates “country of origin” regulations. The flag lapel pin that Cheney is wearing should be labeled “made in china”.

By Dusty

March 20, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

Oh yes, that is SUCH a great cartoon. Just lovely. While our President is working diligently on the complex problems that come with a great country being at war, teeny tiny Luckovich is in Atlanta drawing up disfigured cartoons to prove how great HE is. Who cares about the country being at war? About patriotism!!?? About respect!!!?? Ha! Luckovich is here! Bring on the tin-type Pulitzers!! Applause!! Applause!!

You liberals better enjoy what you now consider your political reign.(Ha!) The antics of the likes of Luckovich and the disgraceful behavior of Congressional Democrats(example-Waxman’s utterly rude quiz) is laughable in disgust. Americans are not to be fooled by the antics of liberal fools.

By @@

March 20, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

No Peter, I don’t believe I mentioned the word “censorship”. It’s just an unnecessary inconvenience.

Did I say something that irritated you?

Get up on the wrong side of the bed this a.m.?

Got a stick up your a$$?

What exactly is your problem today?

A liberal always has one.

Would you like to share?

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 20, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

[I prefer bugs bunny, but Gonzo’s pretty funny] (http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fiore/2007/03/gonzales.html)

I apologize in advance if my linky thingy does not work as planned

By Paul

March 20, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight

Thank you for the reminder of the presumption of innocence in criminal matters. After what we’ve been through with “presumption of innocence” for Bush Administration members during this drawn-out affair, it is possible a new day of reasoned discussion is dawning.

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That was an interesting reference yesterday morning about how the rendition program was established under the Clinton Administration (I trust a few on the Right will give him an “atta boy” for that). Just remember a primary rule of politics - “good” or “bad” is determined not by what happened, but by who did it.

By Peter

March 20, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

@@ - After such a release, I think AJC has acted in an appropriate manner. Imagine if you had bolded some of that … (I’d hardly consider my remarks an attack but you would know better.)

By DebbieDoRight

March 20, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

{{Speaking of which, if Bush really was AWOL from the Gaurd during ‘Nam, how did he learn to fly that jet? Was he part of a secret government program to train Chimps to fly?}}

He learned how to fly BEFORE he went into the guard. After leaving flight school, with the Viet Nam war in full swing, he joined the National Guard and protected Texas from the invading hordes of mosquitoes they get every year.

Oh and he probably used cliff notes to see what mosquitoes looked like.

By @@

March 20, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

Paul:

Damn straight, I’ll give Clinton an “atta boy”.

Also, I’m very much in favor of dealing with regime change “covertly”, unless of course it’s done by a “not so covert” Plame/Wilson team of political operatives.

Far fewer casualties, on a global scale when you can bring about change under the radar.

BTW, the recent defector from Iran…it’s being said that he was imbedded in Iran by the U.S. and has been operating under our behest for the last 3+ years.

We shall see.

By J Satterly

March 20, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

DDR- He was fighting those mosquitoes in Texas so we wouldn’t have to fight them here, don’t you know?

By Paul

March 20, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

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We had a defector who was under our control for the past three and a half years in Iran? Why are you not outraged? We obviously encouraged him to lie and deceive his countrymen. That’s contrary to American values. He’s working with the Bush Administration - he’s obviousley a liar and cannot be trusted. This is one more example of the Bush administration keeping secrets and operating without full Congressional oversight. This should have been reported in our press years ago. This is another shameful travesty that further illustrates to the world just how hypocritical we really are.

So - wouldn’t you just love to read his debrief?

By Walt

March 20, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Luckodull:

“Can Valerie Plame put on her little prison jumpsuit?”

Keith Olbermann on his show last night showed that there was no official report to any effect that Ms. Plame lied under oath.

It was just Rethuglican wishful thinking.

Walt

By @@

March 20, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Well Pete ol’ boy, backpeddle from your 9:43 if you like, but it almost sounded like you were suggesting that I leave and find a life elsewhere.

I have one. I’ll be leaving for work within the next hour.

You?

If “Peter” leaves, I’m sure “Alias” will show up to take his place.

By @@

March 20, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Absolutely Paul. I would love to read his debrief. I’d do so with a very cautious eye.

Outraged you say?

I’m never outraged when the game is being played on a “level field”.

I’m off to get ready for work.

Have fun keeping the players in the dugout.

By Paul

March 20, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

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Screen just blanked. Don’t know if my response made it - said I’m getting ready to sign off - tax stuff to the accountants, then more work - but I’d read an article yesterday we’ve had three defectors/captured at the top level of Iranian intel/military services. CIA may screw up some big-picture projections but it appears they’re good at these field operations.

Cheers -

By Lord Help Us

March 20, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Kudos to the Bush admin on the ‘mole’ in the Iranian gov’t.

His information has UNDOUBTEDLY been CRITICAL to our success in keeping this charter member of the ‘Axis of Evil’ from building their nuclear program, gaining influence in the region and providing weapons to militias in Iraq to use against our military!

Chalk up another ‘success’ for the Bushies!!

By Walt

March 20, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

“By J Satterly

March 20, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

Speaking of which, if Bush really was AWOL from the Gaurd during ‘Nam, how did he learn to fly that jet?”

Bush performed his duties satisfactorily from 1968 to 1972.

Once urinalysis was introduced, he ducked his flight physicals and his flying status was revoked for that reason.

He did not complete his term of service, which was six years.

His discharge was forged.

We know that because a full “discharge package” would have included 3 documents signed by officers in three different headquarters in 3 different cities.

Bush’s 3 were signed post facto by the same officer.

Further, the type obligation he signed on for required that he find a “drilling” unit in the Boston area when we moved there.

He never did.

Bush is a horrible scumbag and a deserter from the Armed Forces to boot.

Walt

By Dusty

March 20, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

DebbieDoRight,

Why are you knocking the National Guard? Do you think they are now fighting mosquitoes in Iraq? I know you were talking about “Nam” but you are still undermining the purpose of our military.

Just because Bush was in the National Guard you are now going to infer they do nothing? Because your army husband is now stationed in California instead of Iraq, he is doing nothing?

I realize that you are trying to discredit the Commander-in-Chief but you discredit all our military. Liberals try to go both ways all the time. It doesn’t work. You either support the troops or you don’t.( A few handshakes at the airport for the military or their wives does not constitute real support for the troops when you are knocking them everywhere else.)

By getalife

March 20, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

These failed Americans need to remove those flag pins off their suits, man up and resign for the Iraq disaster.

Better yet, lets send the world a clear message and offer these war criminals to the Iraqis to execute.

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Drudge reports that Alberto Gonzales and his deputy McNulty are done. Adios “Gonzo”.

By Mike

March 20, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Who cares what Luckovich says? He thinks Khalid Sheik Mohammed was an innocent victim of mean old George Bush.

By Mike

March 20, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Who cares what Luckovich says? He thinks Khalid Sheik Mohammed was an innocent victim of mean old George Bush.

By Truthsayer

March 20, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Dusty - you got it right. The lilly liberals want to have it both ways! They say they support the military but do everything they can to vilify it and make them look like the enemies rather than the real enemy - the Islamofascists. And before you get into how some Muslims are okay, I will remind you that argument was used about Fascists and Communists as well as most extremist groups by both the right and the left when one side or the other didn’t want to fight for ideological or other reasons. Evil is Evil and it must be destroyed, period. Get a clue folks, the President is not the enemy!

By Neo-ConArtist

March 20, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

ROFL— great ‘toon, Luckovich! You hit it once again with W’s attempts at wearing costumes and using our troops as back-drops for his photo con-jobs.

By DebbieDoRight

March 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

{{I realize that you are trying to discredit the Commander-in-Chief but you discredit all our military. Liberals try to go both ways all the time. It doesn’t work.}}

OK….so going by your line of logic, if you discredit, say….Valerie Plame, or Hillary Clinton then you are in fact discrediting ALL women. Or maybe you’re discrediting ALL CIA operatives, or maybe you’re discrediting All Female Senators, or maybe you’re discrediting All Caucasian Women who are in positions of influence, or….. Republicans try to go both ways all the time, and it doesn’t work.

{{You either support the troops or you don’t.( A few handshakes at the airport for the military or their wives does not constitute real support for the troops when you are knocking them everywhere else.)}}

This is where you lost me. I was refering to BUSH’S VietNam era record; that was back in the 60’s before most of us were born on this blog. Where is the correlation between Bush’s non service during the VietNam war and the Iraq/Afghan war going on now? How did you stretch that far to get to that point?

Dusty — Let’s agree to disagree. I support the troops my way, (hands on; action; walking the walk); and you support the troops YOUR way, (talking and blogging).

By getalife

March 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Ganzo was fired for performance issues.

He did not lie well.

Carol Lam is the new Valerie Plame.

Get er Andy.

Geez.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Truth Misnomer:

“They say they support the military but do everything they can to vilify it and make them look like the enemies rather than the real enemy - the Islamofascists.”

That is Orwellian.

“Liberals” want the troops -not- used to fool idiots like you.

That is the reason that Bush wants to keep our guys in harm’s way. He knows it handcuffs the Congress (they are weasels too) and that it will fool a certain number of people “all the time.”

We want a winning policy for our military and foreign affairs while OBL has you so terrified you can’t realize that big strong Bush would get picked last at kick ball by a bunch of 10 year olds.

Walt

By DebbieDoRight

March 20, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

{{DebbieDoRight,Why are you knocking the National Guard? Do you think they are now fighting mosquitoes in Iraq? I know you were talking about “Nam” but you are still undermining the purpose of our military.}}

I had to go back to this. Exactly HOW was I undermining the purpose of the military now? So, in your line of reasoning, if I talk about the war of 1812 or the Spanish American War or the Indian Wars; and I launch a discussion on the misuse of the military in those circumstances, what you’re saying is that I am in fact disrespecting the soldiers who are NOW SERVING IN IRAQ??!!!?? Please explain HOW this is possible!

{{Just because Bush was in the National Guard you are now going to infer they do nothing? Because your army husband is now stationed in California instead of Iraq, he is doing nothing?}}

Let’s get something straight, I didn’t disrespect the Natinal Guard. I DISRESPECTED GEORGE “DUMBYA” BUSH. Do you think Bush is a GOD? And no man can speak against him? Is this where this is going? Is he more powerful in your eyes than the God that sits in heaven? Is his word the ONLY word that you’ll believe? Is your faith in him more than the faith that you have in your religion? Is Bush infallible and incapable of making mistakes, lying, cheating, etc?

That is so sad.

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe all this debate over supporting the troops. I’m sure we can agree that supporting the troops means giving them everything they need to succeed. Bush can’t seem to get that done. Supporting the troops means wanting them to be as safe as possible. Bush keeps putting them in harm’s way. Supporting the troops means never sending them on dubious missions. Bush can’t tell us what the mission is. Supporting the troops means caring for them when they are wounded. Nope, Bush fell down on that one too.

I can’t wait for these brown-shirts to get with the program and REALLY start supporting our troops.

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Alberto’s days really are numbered. McClatchy reported last night that the Bush team is already looking for a new Attorney General:

“The White House began floating the names of possible replacements for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales Monday as the Justice Department released more internal documents related to the firings of eight U.S. attorneys last year.

One prominent Republican, who earlier had predicted that Gonzales would survive the controversy, said he expected both Gonzales and Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty to resign soon. Another well-connected Republican said that White House officials have launched an aggressive search for Gonzales’ replacement, though Bush hadn’t decided whether to ask for his resignation.

Support for Gonzales appeared to be collapsing under the weight of questions about his truthfulness and his management ability. White House spokesman Tony Snow offered a tepid defense when asked if Gonzales would stay on the job until the end of President Bush’s term.”

Does he last the week? Gonzales is scheduled to appear at a House hearing on Thursday. My guess: That won’t happen. He’ll be gone.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

{{{By GAK62 March 20, 2007 9:42 AM When Gore was VP, you Fascists on the Right lost your minds over campaign phone calls he “may have made” from his VP office. (BIG FREAKIN’ DEAL!!!) Now VP Cheney “may have been” involved in the outing of a CIA operative and you want to blow it off as no big deal. You’re twisted dude! Stop rooting for the GOP like you root for your favorite football team!}}}

Candy As-s 62: Mind showing me your proof that Cheney “outed” anyone?

I got my proof:

“I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him. There was no nepotism involved. I did not have the authority,” she said.

It’s a slam dunk.

All the Republicans need to do is nut up, quit cowering before you hopeless wankers.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By KZ_Guy

March 20, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Great toon ML. Bush is such an easy target. The only time he opens his mouth is to change the foot. He is surrounded by liars and yes men. He is the worst of all time. You are doing a great job Bushy just like Brownie did.

By DebbieDoRight

March 20, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

{{Does he last the week? Gonzales is scheduled to appear at a House hearing on Thursday. My guess: That won’t happen. He’ll be gone.}}

If I was him on my way out the door I’d start dropping dimes on EVERYBODY!! If I go down I’d take all those crooks with me. I’d make a goodbye speech and name names, times, and places; AND if I had any, show the pictures.

By Here's the straight line

March 20, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

… “All the Republicans need to do is nut up”

I believe that has been accomplished.

They are nuts.

By getalife

March 20, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Please impeach me

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

THE CLINTONS ARE the two most exaggerated figures in modern American political history. Of course, the Clintons got some minor legislation through in the 1990s. That is the modest assessment of a widening number of professional historians, most of whom note that the Clintons’ main preoccupations were to batten down scandals and hold off various independent counsels while important initiatives were delayed — for instance, Social Security reform and the war against terrorism. The Boy President got himself elected and re-elected while the Democratic Party’s dominance in the country shrank. Hillary got herself elected to the Senate; but she has no legislation to show for it, only presidential preference polls, some of which show that nearly half of the American electorate would “definitely not vote for her.” As politicians, the Clintons’ main achievement has been raw survival, at a cost that has been enormous in terms of destructive legal precedents, eroded ethics, and infringements on the rule of law.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By LivingRight

March 20, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

A quick memo to all you morons. The war has gone beautifully, as Halliburton stock has tripled since the onset.

Question: Ever ask yourself why those who beat their chests the loudest about WMD are also the ones making money hand over fist off this deal?

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/images/chart0905_3.gif

By Walt

March 20, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

“By LivingRight

March 20, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

A quick memo to all you morons. The war has gone beautifully, as Halliburton stock has tripled since the onset.

Question: Ever ask yourself why those who beat their chests the loudest about WMD are also the ones making money hand over fist off this deal?”

That’s right.

The upside for the Neo-cons:

Stop Saddam from paying the families of suicide bombers in Israel.

Stir up shia/Sunni scism.

Keep Military/Industrial/Congressional compex going full blast.

Win the 2004 election by appealing to the idiots who “support the troops”.

Pay for Cheney’s multi-million dollar house on Chesapeake Bay.

Walt

By Walt

March 20, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

“By LivingRight

March 20, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

A quick memo to all you morons. The war has gone beautifully, as Halliburton stock has tripled since the onset.

Question: Ever ask yourself why those who beat their chests the loudest about WMD are also the ones making money hand over fist off this deal?”

That’s right.

The upside for the Neo-cons:

Stop Saddam from paying the families of suicide bombers in Israel.

Stir up shia/Sunni scism.

Keep Military/Industrial/Congressional compex going full blast.

Win the 2004 election by appealing to the idiots who “support the troops”.

Pay for Cheney’s multi-million dollar house on Chesapeake Bay.

Walt

By getalife

March 20, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Thanks to the hate party, the min. wage is stalled and no legislation will be passed.

Bad news for this administration because now there will be investigations upon investigations until they are gone.

This will lead to landslide victories in 08 to pass all legislation the Dems want.

By Soothsayer

March 20, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Let no one forget that Saddam’s fatal flaw was agreeing to sell oil to the French and Russians. That is the real reason for the Iraqi war.

By Truthman

March 20, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Ah, back from a wonderful week in Sebring and ready to get back in the fray.

I heard Bush/Cheney’s slogan for their Iraq War anniversary yesterday was “Four more years!!”

Gonzales by this Friday. Cheney by 30 March!

That’s guilty, Guilty, GUILTY!!!

To paraphrase Clarissa Starling from “Silence Of The Lambs,” “There aren’t words for monsters like those!”

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

The homocrats will continue to beat this Gonzales drum, until he resigns, or until they can come up with something else to prostitute the media with.

By Sally Says

March 20, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Sally Says: The real reason for the Iraq War was that Iraq was getting ready to come off of embargo status; and Hussein was planning on flooding the market with cheap oil for quick bucks to fill up the Iraqi Treasury.

Bush Sr. and Jr. were already sleeping with the Saudis and couldn’t allow that to happen. Remember Jr.’s cabinet were first pushing to continue the UN sanctions; but when that didn’t work, they “invented” the WMD’s and invaded Iraq.

By bon scott

March 20, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull March 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this THE CLINTONS ARE the two most exaggerated figures in modern American political history.

Oh Lord, Andydull quoting from the American Spectator, which is about as balanced as Mad Magazine. There are LOTS of people inside 495 and who are or have been part of the current administration who deserve prison jumpsuits more than Valerie Plame. Start with Karl Rove. Rumsfeld, Cheney and Wolfowitz, who had Congress and the nation believing that Iraq would be a walk in the park, when they knew damn well it would be a long term struggle.

Now THAT’S perjury.

Valerie Plame? You’re just using her as your whipping girl and a diversion from the kind of incomptence in the White House that has cost thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. I’m surprised you haven’t linked Valerie to the Vince Foster “murder”.

You’re like the really bad magician who proclaims “nothing up my sleeves” when you can clearly see the aces and face cards peeking out from his wrists.

You’ve never had much credibility, but your hatred of the Clintons (hint: He hasn’t been President for 6 years and Hillary’s White House chances, as any informed Democrat will tell you, are slim at best) are eroding what little crediblity you have left. Ans it’s being swamped with your Valerie vendetta. Only an idiot could see your rants as anything but attempts to divert attention from the REAL problems the US is facing.

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Sally says,

What type drugs do you do?

By Soothsayer

March 20, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

When you have lived 56+ years in the United States eventually you reach the inescapable conclusion that the U.S. “needs” a war. Peace has too big of an impact on the Big Corp War Machine Technocrats bottom line. We always have to have some kind of conflict going to keep the economy going. And if it is an endless, self-perpetuation catch-22 conflict, so much the better. Sad isn’t it?

By Interesting, No?

March 20, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

We are glad and encouraged that President Bush expressed his support for Attorney General Gonzales while visiting Mexico recently and encourage all from throughout the different political spectrum and affiliations to not rush to judgment on US Attorney General Gonzales, and to stray away from the partisanship that engulfs the US Congress. It is time to lead and not continue to engage in partisan distractions and unsubstantiated accusations against a humble and hard working public service as in the case of Alberto Gonzales, the first Hispanic American to occupy this honor in the history of the Republic,” as also stated by Massey Villarreal, Chairman of the US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Foundation.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Lord Doom:

“The homocrats will continue to beat this Gonzales drum, until he resigns, or until they can come up with something else to prostitute the media with.”

Let’s set a baseline:

Gonzales lied under oath.

Valerie Plame did not.

Walt

By Truthman

March 20, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Wetnurse Doom,

Stop with the name-calling already. Why is there so much name-calling on this blog?

Can’t anyone other than myself express and opinion w/o being called something?

Also, leave the gay and lesbian stupidity out of your comments. Are you still in high school?

If you’re an adult, write as one!!

By Nutjob Quote of the Day

March 20, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

“We are fighting for the freedom of our children more than any war we have ever been in.” -Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson

What an utter moron.

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Truthman,

“Wetnurse Doom”? Sounds like name calling to me.

Also, gay and lesbian stupidity doesn’t just exist in high school, it exits around the world, particularly the left wing world.

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Walt,

Where you this defensive when Clintoris lied under oath?

By Republican 'Cut n Runners'

March 20, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - The FBI engaged in widespread and serious misuse of its authority in illegally gathering telephone, e-mail and financial records of Americans and foreigners while hunting terrorists, the Justice Department’s chief inspector said Tuesday.

Republicans gave us their word that the only people who would be spied on were foreign terrorists. Once again, Republicans have LIED to us and demonstrated their lack of integrity.

Islamofascists have controlled their favorite puppets, the neo-puritans, in order to destroy America from within. Neos, under the goading control of global fanatics, used terror-mongering to turn America into another socialist state by eliminating constitutional gaurantees against police-state intrusions into our private lives.

Islamofascists have used Republicans to defeat the american message of peace and prosperity through a free society. Sadly, for now, Republicans have surrendered our freedoms to the terrorists! Rather than stand and fight for freedom, Republicans caved-in and ‘cut n run’ to fascism!

By Soothsayer

March 20, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

You heard it here first. Current estimates are that Mexico - the U.S.’s third largest oil supplier - will discontinue exporting oil in 2010. A little less than 3 years from now. Why? Because they will need it themselves. On that date, I sincerely hope that you are driving a hybrid. Remember the 70s?

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Republican ‘Cut n Runners’,

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

{{{By Anti Radical March 20, 2007 12:48 PM Islamofascists have used Republicans to defeat the american message of peace and prosperity through a free society.}}}

So you think we should go shopping Spammie?

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

Now.

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By Kadhim al-Jubouri

March 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

His hands were bleeding and his eyes filled with tears as, four years ago, he slammed a sledgehammer into the tiled plinth that held a 20ft bronze statue of Saddam Hussein. Then Kadhim al-Jubouri spoke of his joy at being the leader of the crowd that toppled the statue in Baghdad’s Firdous Square. Now, he is filled with nothing but regret.[..]

Now, on the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq, he says: “I really regret bringing down the statue. The Americans are worse than the dictatorship. Every day is worse than the previous day.”

By Walt

March 20, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

“By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Walt,

Where you this defensive when Clintoris lied under oath?”

Stop with the “have you stopped beating your wife?” type questions.

Clinton lied under oath. That was bad. He disappointed me. I seldom say anything about Clinton at all.

But we have a smirking chimp of a war criminal running our affairs now.

You need to accept that.

Walt

By getalife

March 20, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

WTF?

We must invade Mexico.

Wait a minute, they have already invaded us.

Geez.

By Peter

March 20, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

@@ - I’m still here. I’m surprised by your defensive posture, and found your concern for fonts to be humorous. You appear to need validation when you cry you are not being heard. I hear you, and it’s pathetic.

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Peter,

Doom hates to be the one to break the news to you, but @@(Buy Danish)doesn’t appear when Doom is around. She knows that we are on to her use of double IDs and she tries to maintain a cover during this time of day.

By Truthman

March 20, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Please go back to elementary school and learn to spell correctly.

It is funny, though, that I can usually tell a progressive from a repub by the former’s use of correct grammer, spelling and punctuation. Much as English is the Shrub’s second language, it seems to be the second language of repubs.

And then that raises the quandry of English being the official language of the USA when your commander-in-chief cannot speak the language!?!

By Goldie

March 20, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Mission Bumbled is all we’ve gotten from this administration. I would laugh if it wasn’t so tragic.

Over 3200 Americans killed, and approx. 30,000 wounded, all because of the incompetence coming from the White House.

And all because Dubya wanted so badly to be called a “war president.”

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

NutJob: That explains it! Since we’re fighting for the freedom of our children we might as well borrow the money and shackle the little ones with the debt.

By Goldie

March 20, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Our GA legislators continue with their irrelevance to what matters in life. Now they want to make April their “Confederate Heritage Month” — please God, make ‘em stop!

Instead, maybe we should re-enact the April 9, 1865, surrender of Gen. Robert E. Lee to Gen. U.S. Grant at Appomattox Court House. Because apparently some people still need to be reminded that the war is over, and that the South lost, and that the South’s defeat was one of the best things that ever happened to this country.

I’m betting most of you Bush apologists are also thinking their proposal is just great, too, for the state of GA.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 20, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Hey

Interesting no?

Frank Lopez wrote that — Would that be this Frank Lopez?

http://www.stmarysregional.com/p2691.html

-=-

By Walt

March 20, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Goldie Sends:

“Mission Bumbled is all we’ve gotten from this administration. I would laugh if it wasn’t so tragic.

Over 3200 Americans killed, and approx. 30,000 wounded, all because of the incompetence coming from the White House.

And all because Dubya wanted so badly to be called a “war president.”

That’s not it Goldie.

What happened is that Rove told them in 2001 that if they got a bunch of our troops killed and kept the others in action through the 2004 election, that they wouldn’t have to count on the Supreme Court to steal the 2004 election.

A certain number of Americans would support Bush — no matter what — as a certain number had supported Johnson and Nixon — no matter what— during Viet Nam.

And, Rove told them, they could brand anyone who questioned them as traitors.

It was a no-brainer.

Dead troops suit them just fine.

Walt

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Truthless,

Doom didn’t misspell anything you cockroach! If I did, it was a typo. You better stay away from me or so help me, I’ll reveal to everyone on this blog what me and your mother did last night.

By Sally Says

March 20, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Sally Says: Bite me Doom!

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Sure Sally. Tell me when.

By COULD IT BE

March 20, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

That Lord Doom is Lucko Dull after he takes his prescription medication?

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Can we please elevate this forum to an adult level? I’m singling out Doom in this request.

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

What the hell is this, pick on Doom day? All of you cretins,left and right wing can kiss my green/black a$$!

By Rover

March 20, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

George W. Bush - December 20, 2006

“As we work with Congress in the coming year to chart a new course in Iraq and strengthen our military to meet the challenges of the 21st century, we must also work together to achieve important goals for the American people here at home.

This work begins with keeping our economy growing. As we approach the end of 2006, the American economy continues to post strong gains.

The most recent jobs report shows that our economy created 132,000 more jobs in November alone, and we’ve now added more than 7 million jobs since August of 2003.

The unemployment rate has remained low at 4.5 percent. The recent report on retail sales shows a strong beginning to the holiday shopping season across the country.

And I encourage you all to go shopping more.”

Hey Luckodill,

Looks like Dubya is the one who thinks we all should just go shopping.

The forth anniversary of a war that was supposed to last “months, not years” as your hero Donald Rumsfeld stated in 2003, and all you can harp on is Valerie Plame?

By COULD IT BE

March 20, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

No wait. Correction.

Lucko Dull is Lord Doom after the MEDICAL STAFF makes him take his prescribed medications.

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull is Mike Luckovich ingrates!!

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

Doom has finally conquered this blog!!

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

{{{By Rover March 20, 2007 1:36 PM The forth anniversary of a war that was supposed to last “months, not years” as your hero Donald Rumsfeld stated in 2003, and all you can harp on is Valerie Plame?}}}

It took weeks to remove Saddam from power which is what Rumsfeld was talking about, you wanker.

And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable and free country will require our sustained commitment.- George W Bush, March 19th, 2003.

More of a man then you’ll ever be, jerk off.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up now.

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By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

{{By bon scott

March 20, 2007 12:29 PM}}

Only an idiot could see your rants as anything but attempts to divert attention from the REAL problems the US is facing.

Sybil Bon Finch,

Err, I guess that makes you an idiot then?

Are you sure you went to Cornell?

{{By Lord Doom March 20, 2007 1:06 PM

Peter,}}

Doom hates to be the one to break the news to you, but @@(Buy Danish)doesn’t appear when Doom is around. She knows that we are on to her use of double IDs and she tries to maintain a cover during this time of day.

Lard Doom,

Congratulations! You are accomplishing the impossible. You are alienating everyone on this board (no matter what their political affiliation) with your comments which are by turns vulgar, racist, and homophobic. Except for Midori - I think she likes you.

In addition you display a tin ear for language - which is appropriate because your tin ear matches that tin foil hat you wear when playing the role of an incompetent and particularly obnoxious detective.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Doom: You have groped your way to the top of this blog, I agree.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up now.

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By Rover

March 20, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Hey Lickod*ck,

In case you haven’t noticed, we’re STILL at war in Iraq. So, quit with the revisionist history lesson, you moron.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Of course I’m not Luckovich but I do work for him. How else do you think I can post comments when the blog is shut down.

Suck it you jealous idiots.

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By COULD IT BE

March 20, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Lucko Dull is Mike’s lawn boy!

By getalife

March 20, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

“U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald was ranked among prosecutors who had “not distinguished themselves” on a Justice Department chart sent to the White House in March 2005, when he was in the midst of leading the CIA leak investigation that resulted in the perjury conviction of a vice presidential aide, administration officials said yesterday.”

He should replace ganzo but he is not a w w-hore.

Enforce the freaking laws.

By TW

March 20, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

LivingRight (11:51) – It’s called ‘bloodmoney’. But like you said – life inside the castle has never been sweeter. Many thanks to the ignorant fools making less than $1.5m who trumpet themselves as Republican. Thanks guys…yee-hah…

By rushncap

March 20, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Love the lips on Shrubby! He looks almost cute.

By Rover

March 20, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Lickod*ck,

Yeah, I guess Bush is “more of a man.” More of the kind of man, who when asked about the “Mission Accomplished” banner, blamed it’s creation on the ship’s crew, not his staff.

The president told reporters the sign was put up by the Navy, not the White House. “I know it was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from my staff — they weren’t that ingenious, by the way,” the president said.

We now know that this, like most everything else this weasel says, is not true. Yeah, a REAL man. Lickod*ick.

By Sailor

March 20, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

“By Rover

March 20, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Hey Lickod*ck,”

Hey there, Rover. Are you offering your services? Licking my d-ick sounds real rewarding and I’ll bet you’re real sweet.

Give me a call, sugar.

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

The hardcore right seems determined to continue creating their own reality. Last night O’Reilly was haranguing a woman from World Can’t Wait, denying torture, death estimates, etc. To her credit, she didn’t let him walk all over her, though she did seem taken aback at his complete denial of well-documented facts. (”I have the information right here,” he says, shuffling papers on his desk. “Where’s your evidence?” As if people come on these shows with their own stacks of paper, ready to refute any right wing talking point O’Reilly or Hannity might pull out of their a*******e$.)

It’s always smoke and mirrors with these guys. O’Reilly had no information in front of him. I really hate the way these guys operate.

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

It looks like the middle-schoolers have taken over for now. I’ll be back when the adults come back.

By PoofoDull's Tiny Testes

March 20, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Every since Curly girl’s name and address appeared on this blog, s/he’s been pretending s/he’s an outed secret agent.

Outed, yes. S/he was living in a glass closet with her f-ag hag pals Bi Danish, @@, and RW. But it was a closet

But s/he’s all the way out now.

But Andi/e, you’re not a secret agent.

You’re just a silly paranoid poof.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

{{By Rover March 20, 2007 2:22 PM Hey Lickod*ck, Yeah, I guess Bush is “more of a man.” More of the kind of man, who when asked about the “Mission Accomplished” banner, blamed it’s creation on the ship’s crew, not his staff.}}

You know what, wanker, for some reason I can deal with an ill conceived banner:

On April 9, 1942, approximately 75,000 Filipino and United States soldiers, commanded by Major General Edward “Ned” P. King, were formally surrendered to a Japanese army of 50,000 men under Lt. General Masaharu Homma. After the Bataan Death March, approximately 54,000 of the 72,000 prisoners reached their destination. The death toll of the march is difficult to assess as thousands of captives were able to escape from their guards.

You go ahead and obsess like a freaking psychotic over the real minor things, weirdo.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By GodHatesTrash

March 20, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

“By PoofoDull’s Tiny Testes

March 20, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Outed, yes. S/he was living in a glass closet with her f-ag hag pals”

Hey, I’m a fa-g too, be nice!

Remember, slurp, slurp?

Were you just using me?

By Rob

March 20, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull Valerie Plame Wilson never sent her husband on the trip to Niger. For starters, she didn’t have the authority to do so. That is a right wing/Fox news lie that has been thoroughly discredited by now. And by the way, what the hell were you doing in service to our nation while she was working to trace and expose WMD research in Iran?

By Rover

March 20, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Yes, Lickodi*k,

that was a tragic, horrific moment in U.S. history. Those men died during a war that was thrust upon this country by Hitler’s attempt to overrun Europe and the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Over 3,200 U.S. soldiers have died in this war, a war that was not thrust upon us. It is a war of choice started by George W. and his neocon cronies. And don’t pull 9/11, another horrific day, out and wave it around as if it were a justification to invade Iraq. That is why we invaded Afganistan, which is a decision I fully supported. THAT’S where Al-Qaeda was.

As far as minor things, do you consider the president of the United States lying during a press conference to be a minor thing? It that’s the case, then your head is so far up Bush’s a*s, that I’m surprised you can see to type the garbage you spew out.

Peace out, loser.

By PLEASE!

March 20, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Can you cut the grossness?

Blogging after some of you is like walking in a cow pasture.

By regulator

March 20, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

News flash: White House to allow Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify, but get this, not under oath, what are the chances of getting any truth out of that one, I’d say about as much as getting Dubya to finish his military career during Nam.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

{{By Rover March 20, 2007 3:08 PM As far as minor things, do you consider the president of the United States lying during a press conference to be a minor thing?}}

Puh-leeze.

You first, “I did not have sexual relations with that fat chick, Ms. Lewinsky” versus “Saddam is no longer in power.”

You can’t be serious, are you?

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By Walt

March 20, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

LD Sends:

“You know what, wanker, for some reason I can deal with an ill conceived banner:

On April 9, 1942, approximately 75,000 Filipino and United States soldiers, commanded by Major General Edward “Ned” P. King, were formally surrendered to a Japanese army of 50,000 men under Lt. General Masaharu Homma. After the Bataan Death March, approximately 54,000 of the 72,000 prisoners reached their destination. The death toll of the march is difficult to assess as thousands of captives were able to escape from their guards.”

Thanks for the reminder that in 1942 we could review the recent past and see Republican Party obstruction as FDR had tried to prepare the nation for war in the late 1930’s.

Walt

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

The Intelligence Identities Protection Act makes it a federal crime to intentionally reveal the identity of an agent whom one knows to be covert. So how can anyone be accused of knowingly revealing Valerie Plame’s identity as a covert agent if Valerie Plame herself didn’t know if she was covert according to the law?

False witness?

False testimony?

Perjury?

Obstruction?

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

About TIME:

It’s funny that an article about how everything the Republican party touches turns to sh!t could somehow be a hidden gift to conservatives everywhere, but Time magazine has somehow accomplished it with their cover story “How The Right Went Wrong”. The first sign that the article would be a thinly-disguised love letter to a conservative Never Never Land is the cover itself which sports a Photoshopped Reagan portrait that’s just begging to be turned into a velvet painting.

The cover asks “What would Ronnie do?” Good question, Time. What would Ronnie do? My guess is he’d probably thank you for making him a martyr with unvarnished BS praise like this:

“Reagan restored a sense of America’s mission as the “city on a hill” that would be a light to the world and helped bring about the defeat of what he very undiplomatically christened “the evil empire.”

Conservatives are in many ways victims of their successes, and there have indeed been big ones. At 35%, the top tax rate is about half what it was when Reagan took office; the Soviet Union broke up; inflation is barely a nuisance; crime is down; and welfare is reformed.”

You can almost hear John Ashcroft singing in the distance as Time breathlessly exhorts “the Reagan legacy”. Jeez, guys, why don’t you just skip the middleman and just write the entire 2008 GOP campaign script for them? The one time when the article actually tells the truth about the Reagan years, it’s done as an aside.

“The principles that propelled the movement have either run their course, or run aground, or been abandoned by Reagan’s legatees. Government is not only bigger and more expensive than it was when George W. Bush took office, but its reach is also longer, thanks to the broad new powers it has claimed as necessary to protect the homeland. It’s true that Reagan didn’t live up to everything he promised: he campaigned on smaller government, fiscal discipline and religious values, while his presidency brought us a larger government and a soaring deficit. But Bush’s apostasies are more extravagant by just about any measure you pick.”

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

The conservative movement of Ronald Reagan was never about fiscal discipline or shrinking the size of the government, but to make sure all that money went to the “right” people. You’d think the fact that the Reagan presidency didn’t actually accomplish the things his acolytes insist he did would be worthy of more than a footnote. The more damning part about the article is the insistence that the actions of Bush and the rest of the GOP leadership over the last six years have somehow been at odds with what the Gipper would have done (WWRD?).

George Bush isn’t some conservative poseur, he’s the proverbial student that’s become the master. On just about every level, George Bush has improved upon Reagan. Bush has presided over political patronage that reaches every level of the government (and even into the realm of war profiteering). The Administration has had deficits that not only dwarf the gargantuan debt of their spiritual leader, but serve as a tribute to their spendthrift leader (”Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter….this is our due.”) And as the ultimate act of one-upsmanship, not only has the President p** away every penny that comes into the treasury and buried the country under a mountain of red ink, but Bush was able to do so while continuing to cut taxes for the super rich. Beat that, Bonzo!

By Blackadder

March 20, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

“News flash: White House to allow Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify, but get this, not under oath” -regulator

Just the other day Ricky Wingnut was betting that Valerie Plame wouldn’t be under oath. It’s always their side that refuses to be put under oath. That makes anything they say worthless.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

CNN even senses blood in the water:

Plame Wilson said she had no role in sending her husband on a CIA fact-finding trip to Niger. Wilson said in a newspaper column that his trip debunked the administration’s prewar intelligence that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium from Africa. “I did not recommend him. I did not suggest him. There was no nepotism involved. I did not have the authority,” she said. That {{{conflicts}}} with senior officials at the CIA and State Department, who testified during Libby’s trial that Plame Wilson recommended Wilson for the trip.

Lock the bitc-h up.

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By getalife

March 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

“White House Testimony Offer: Unsworn, Private, No Transcript Allowed”

They think they are still dealing with the rubber stamp Specter.

Nope, they are dealing with the one cheney (my leg hurts whaaaa) told to GFY.

Subpoena the lying liars. Under oath, with a transcript in an open hearing. Period.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

“By regulator

March 20, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

News flash: White House to allow Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify, but get this, not under oath, what are the chances of getting any truth out of that one, I’d say about as much as getting Dubya to finish his military career during Nam.”

I seem to recall that Bush refused to testify under oath to the 9/11 Commission.

This sort of unamerican, immoral behavior is okay as long as Bush protects us from terrorism, right?

Walt

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Andy is a fascist creep. He has to hate. Cripple that he is; he desperately needs to deprive others of power. Fascist to the core, honest people drive him nuts. Thus, a decent law abiding woman like Valerie Plame shows the rat the door. Take heart, if the lame b*stard is attecking Plame the rest of us are getting a break.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Now we got indictment #4:

Note that she testified she sent the email AFTER hearing from Cheney. According to the Senate report, Valerie Plame Wilson sent her e-mail on February 12, 2002 Yet Cheney wasn’t briefed on the matter until February 13, 2003: Briefer: David D. Terry Briefing Date: 02/13/2002 Principal: Richard Cheney Tasking: The VP was shown an assessment (he thought from [the Defense Intelligence Agency]) that Iraq is purchasing uranium from Africa. He would like our assessment of that transaction and its implications for Iraq’s nuclear program. A memo for tomorrow’s brief would be great. Clearly she sent her email the day before, so her actions had nothing to do with Cheney’s request. This is dead to rights proof of perjury.

Lock that a-ss up.

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By John Q Public

March 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

I know that if they are not under oath they have something to hide.

What are they afraid of?

By Walt

March 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

LD Sends:

“Lock the Plame bitc-h up.”

As I indicated earlier, there is no proof of testimony under oath by Ms. Plame on sending her husband to Niger.

I’ll post a transcript from “Countdown” to that effect ASAP.

Expect to see it a lot.

Walt

By Walt

March 20, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

“Reagan restored a sense of America’s mission as the “city on a hill” that would be a light to the world and helped bring about the defeat of what he very undiplomatically christened “the evil empire.”

Reagan was one of the worst presidents we’ve had, noto one of the best.

GHWB had to pardon 5 senior Reagan Administration officials, lest they impicate him too.

And don’t forget how appointments were set at the White House with the aid of an astrologer.

Walt

By Paul

March 20, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

BlackAdder 12:27

I’d recorded BOR so checked the segment and didn’t see it quite the same way. Ms Taylor was on after his initial comments - BOR said the war was a noble effort, the Kurds stepped up, the rest of the Iraquis are more interested in murdering each other, if we had it to do over again, we would not. His opening line was “Tell me where I’m going wrong” - one I’ve not heard from others (Chris Mathews generally says “isn’t that right?”).

She made standard points. BOR asked to take them “one by one.” I’ve seen other guests avoid that - they want to make their points, then move on. He asked her what the big lie was about Iraq. She said Bush lied about WMDs. BOR asked if Clinton lied about WMDs. MT avoided the question, then said she didn’t know and Clinton might have been lying. At least she’s consistent.

She said 600,000 Iraquis have been killed. BOR said the UN said 59,000 and asked her to explain the discrepancy. He sure seems to ask for a lot of explanations. She cited “Lancet” (a British Medical Journal). Their methodology (rather poor statistical abstraction, if I recall) has been questioned. When BOR pointed that out she began a minifilibuster (seems to be a tactic of many - don’t answer the question, just go on about an “illegal war”).

She then said how Americans torture. BOR asked who, she gave a name, BOR asked “how” she gave details, BOR asked “and you believe him?” Man, he asks a lot of questions.

He asked her for documentation. I had to replay her response “I don’t have them because people like you won’t play them.” I kid you not. She really said that.

Then she brought up Abu Ghraib - BOR asked “who ordered that.” She said “Rumsfeld’s handwriting was on the wall. Ask Gen Karpinski.” (She was in charge, got fired, and had disciplinary action taken against her). Ms Taylor asked BOR to have her on - he said “I have, twice.” Ms Taylor told him he’s complicit in covering up war crimes and so is the rest of America.

BOR said they had to wrap up and asked for a recap. Said “you say 600,00 Iraquis killed, the UN says 59,000.” I bet you can guess what happened next, Ms T didn’t strengthen her point or question the UN paper - she said &

By Paul

March 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Sorry, BlackAdder, that was 2:27, not 12:27 -

By Paul

March 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

BlackAdder - continued

BOR said they had to wrap up and asked for a recap. Said “you say 600,00 Iraquis killed, the UN says 59,000.” I bet you can guess what happened next, Ms T didn’t strengthen her point or question the UN paper - she said “and that’s okay with you?” Weak. Very weak. He thanked her, said she needed to stop being hysterical (ouch).

That was a nice diversion. I needed a break. Thanks. Later -

By shadrivers

March 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Bush and Cheney are the two most exaggerated figures in modern American political history. Of course, they got some minor legislation through in the 2000s. That is the modest assessment of a widening number of professional historians, most of whom note that the Bush/Cheneys’ main preoccupations were to batten down scandals and hold off various independent counsels while important initiatives were delayed — for instance, Social Security reform and the war against terrorism. The Boy President got himself elected and re-elected while the Republican Party’s dominance in the country shrank. Cheney got to be head of the Senate; but he has no legislation to show for it, only presidential preference polls, some of which show that nearly 80% of the American electorate would “definitely not vote for him.” As politicians, the Bush/Cheneys’ main achievement has been raw survival, at a cost that has been enormous in terms of destructive legal precedents, eroded ethics, and infringements on the rule of law.

Kind of reminds me of the old saw” when you are pointing one finger at someone else, you have three pointed at yourself”.

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Walt: Always look for these fascists to lie. They lie, then deceive then pound the lie. Valerie never “sent” her husband to Niger. This is vintage Cheney. He knows he has creeps who will repeat the lie. It’s real simple the jury determined Libby lied and Obstructed Justice. Guilty, Guilty, Guilty and Guilty.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

LD Sends:

Now we got indictment #4:

Note that she testified she sent the email AFTER hearing from Cheney. According to the Senate report…”

There is no Senate report to that effect.

There was a report written by some Rethug senators, but it was not part of any formal report and carries no force except with morons like you.

Let me ask you this — are you avooiding any meaningful topics because they are all so unpalatable to you?

Walt

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Snake,

What are you bit*ching about exactly? Too much spending under Reagan and Bush? I gather then that you are opposed to all the pork the Dems are adding to the Iraq Spending bill.

Moving right along -

The Whiny Wussy Wanker award goes to:

A NASA scientist who said the Bush administration muzzled him because of his belief in global warming yesterday acknowledged to Congress that he’d done more than 1,400 on-the-job interviews in recent years…James Hansen, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who argues global warming could be catastrophic, said NASA staffers denied his request to do a National Public Radio interview because they didn’t want his message to get out.

Yep, that’s right and numerous whiny liberals have complained about poor widdle Hansen being “Stifled” right here on this blog.

By Bob

March 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Well now LuckoDumb. Thrashing about as usual in your moral cesspool, insulting (trying) the womenfolks. Midori, Ms. Plame, it matters not. Like 90& of the other Repubs here you are a woman-hater. A frightened little man who is most of all just TERRIFIED of females. You inadequate weaklings are all around us as you vainly try to locate your masculinity every day. To no avail. You know not what you’re looking for nor what to do if you found it. Another of the little people in our midst. I don’t read your crap except by accident. Pitiful little insect hiding behind his computer. Where I come from you’d get your head broken every day, but that’s another story. You have to find something to hate more than you hate yourself. It’s a very old habit & story, runt.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 20, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

-=-

What Luck-Up-Dull forgets is that there has to be proof of perjury (IE-Evidence like something in writing), and not just statements of what was said.

Otherwise the law is quite clear as this is a “He Said, She Said” situation.

In the Plame (Potential) perjury case all you have is hearsay evidence Andy-Dull. No proof of Perjury!

I am quite sure there are plenty of Right Wing prosecutors waiting with briefcase baited breath to pounce all over this one, but until they have a legitimate case against Plame, they will stay put. So if they know there isn’t a case, then why are your crying and moaning - Jail her? yah whiner!

So your constant rant on Plame is meaningless Andy War-Hole! Move on!

There is no case!

If one comes up then I’m sure it will be all over the Foix Gras’ News immediatly, and then you can “Cut and Paste” your mindless parroting neocon drivel as usual.

Thomas/PNAC

By Walt

March 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Daniel:

“Walt: Always look for these fascists to lie. They lie, then deceive then pound the lie. Valerie never “sent” her husband to Niger. This is vintage Cheney. He knows he has creeps who will repeat the lie. It’s real simple the jury determined Libby lied and Obstructed Justice. Guilty, Guilty, Guilty and Guilty.”

Regarding the war protest in DC on Saturday, FOX news had to shoot very carefully to make the few pro-war Bushbots look to be the same size as the 20,000 + anti-war protesters.

It was kind of pathetic.

Walt

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

Great post on Ms. Plame’s email. You know this “junior officer” bit is just SO Hillary Clinton.

Flashback to a “young associates”!

SHE SAID:

In the first three years of the Whitewater controversy, between 1992 and 1995, when she was asked how she became the billing partner on the Madison account, Hillary Clinton said that it came about because Richard Massey, a young Rose Law Firm associate, asked her to help him out…

HE SAID:

Massey for the most part remembered the events differently when he was asked about them in an appearance before the Senate Whitewater committee on Jan. 11, 1996. He said that he did not believe he was responsible for signing up Madison as a client and that he could not recall having a conversation with Hillary Clinton in which he asked her to help him bring in the Madison work.

By Secret Agent Poof

March 20, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

That’d be me, the Curly shemale. Andi.

By Secret Agent Poof

March 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

That’d be me, the Curly shemale. Andi.

By Paul

March 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Daniel

I think its pretty clear Ms Plame didn’t “Send” her husband to Niger. That implies she had the authority to make the assignment, cite Agency funds, and in general have involvement in the trip.

However, if her intent in saying “I did not send…” was to imply she was in no way involved, she’s being disingenuous. Mentioning his name, in any context, is enough to show her involvement. I believe the Congressional (Senate?) report was pretty clear on this.

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

{{{What Luck-Up-Dull forgets is that there has to be proof of perjury (IE-Evidence like something in writing), and not just statements of what was said.}}}

Thomas PNAC,

Are you posing as an attorney now too?

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Spelling correction! Delete the “s” in “associates”.

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Paul: Who cares? Why are we witnessing this character assasination? This is so typical of the tyrant. When you don’t have truth on your side they assail the person. This scapegoating really frightens me. Every fascist and tyrant in history has done this. Doesn’t this concern you? Valerie Plame was a twenty year career CIA public servant. She dedicated her life to the defense of our country. She did this in an exemnplery fashion through five presidents. Now, these creeps are on the attack. The entire appratus of Cheney’s office was geared to ruin her. And they won, she lost her job. I know their target was her husband. Tell us the good in this?

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

-=-

No Danish Burnt bun -

I am not an Attorney!

However I took quite a few courses in college under Journalism Law and Ethics, which quite well covered the basics (that any fool should know) concerning 1)”Hearsay Evidence”, and 2)”Perjury”, and 3)”Slander”, and 4)”Libel”, and 5)”Defamation of Character”…

Oh wait - You constantly commit those last 3 all the time! Don’t You?!— but that’s just hearsay right? No evidence! Right?!~

Thomas/PNAC

By John Q Public

March 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Fortunately, folks don’t get exectuted in this country for being “disingenuous”.

Yet.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Paul Sends:

“However, if her intent in saying “I did not send…” was to imply she was in no way involved, she’s being disingenuous. “

Lord, love a sinner!

She had no power to send her husband and no real wish to, because as she testified the other day, they had 2 year old twins at home.

You Bushbots are pathetic.

Americans can think better than this. You guys all sound like “Good” Germans.

Walt

By Paul

March 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Who cares? Some have made this a really big deal. I was simply pointing out both sides are taking liberties with the truth - I do not think she “sent” her husband, but I do think she floated his name, given his previous contacts. She wasn’t in charge, but I think portraying her as “in the dark” isn’t accurate, either.

I think this entire affair is a pretty good illustration of power politics gone wrong. I do not think the Administration is as guilty as some assert, or as innocent. Same for the Wilsons. My read is Wilson set out to embarrass the Administration. The Administration attempted to discredit his expertise “he’s an exambassador to a third-world country who only got the job because his wife put in a word for him.” Then Wilson told the Washington blog his wife was covert, Cheney, Libby and others said ‘oh c**p did we just step into something’ - absolutely no one in the media or Justice verified the accusation - it was off and running. No one but Fitzgerald and Armitage knew who the leaker was, Plame and Wilson got lucrative book deals and adulation, Administration guys went into defensive mode and obstructed justice (very dumb) and it’s produce endless grist for talk shows, columnsists, Bush haters, Left haters etc ad infinitum ad nauseum.

Now, maybe the Democratic Congress can lay off some investigations and do some legislating to make sure this kind of nonsense doesn’t recur?

By Paul

March 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Walt

Excuse me if I no longer respond much - you strike me as a hyper-ideologue without the desire (or ability) to discuss issues. But feel free to cite me all you’d like. Not addressing facts or opinions but reverting to namecalling simply reinforces your apparent lack of ability.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

{{By shadrivers March 20, 2007 3:54 PM By LuckoDull March 20, 2007 11:48 AM Bush and Cheney are the two most exaggerated figures in modern American political history.}}

Quick, name any piece of legislation that Hillary has ever introduced.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By NightTrain

March 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Lord Help Us - 9:27 Instead of whining on this blog that Valerie Plame ‘may have perjured herself,’ why don’t you make your case to the BUSH JUSTICE DEPT?

Debbie Do - 9:37 Well the key words here are MAY HAVE. And if they ARE found guilty of perjury that proves our system of justice does in fact work.

Walt - 10:30 His discharge was forged. Bush is a horrible scumbag and a deserter from the Armed Forces to boot.

getalife - 10:38 Better yet, lets send the world a clear message and offer these war criminals to the Iraqis to execute.

Truthman - 12:20 That’s guilty, Guilty, GUILTY!!!

Walt - 12:34 Gonzales lied under oath.

Walt - 12:44 But we have a smirking chimp of a war criminal running our affairs now.

Everyone with an “R” next to their name is guilty WITHOUT a trial. But anyone with a “D” by their name is innocent.

Now boys and girls, which way is it? Either they are ALL guilty or they are ALL innocent.

Walt has stated that “his discharge was forged” Proof? None! getagife “these war criminals” Proof? Or just your imagination. Truthman? “Guilty” Proof? Or just your opinion?

Talk about double standards. Enjoy your time now, it’s limited.

When you stand for nothing, you’ll fall for anything.

By bon scott

March 20, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

By Stale Danish - March 20, 2007 1:56 PM - {{bon - Only an idiot could see your rants as anything but attempts to divert attention from the REAL problems the US is facing. Bon, Bon.. Err, I guess that makes you an idiot then? Are you sure you went to Cornell?

If you think Valerie Plame’s dubious perjury is the biggest issue facing the nation, then YOU are the moron. A moron who thinks the lies by the Bushbots that led to the Iraq war are just an afterthought compared to the harmless “alleged conduct” of Ms. Plame needs serious professional help..

Your project for the week: Prove I didn’t graduate from Cornell. It’s not an issue for me, but it certainly causes you sleepless nights. Resolving it might be good therapy for you.

Luckodull, your attempt to compare the Bataan death march in a totaly different war more than 60 years ago with what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan today is just plain repulsive. You really DO hate America, don’t you?

BTW, is VPO (Valerie Plame Obsession) terminal, or just chronic? I certainly hope it’s treatable.

By John Q Public

March 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Paul

Why should congress lay off the investigations?

There has been no transparency. There has been no checks and balance for 6 years.

The few stones they’ve already turned over sent bugs crawling for cover.

Why do you want them to quit investigating? Who do you work for? RNC? Haliburton? An oil company?

What are you afraid of?

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Power Line Forum | Plame Takes Oath, Tells First Lie - “Ms Plame and her husband believe her name was made public in order to suggest that she … I did not have the authority,” she said.” Well someone is lying. …

WTF does it take to be a democrat and get LOCKED UP in this country??

When are the Republicans going to grow some?

You make an example out of this treasonous bitc-h all these candy as-ses will cave in and scurry away back under their slimy little rocks.

Lock the bitc-h up.

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By Walt

March 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

“I know their target was her husband. Tell us the good in this?”

Suggested at the time was the idea that the purpose of outing Plame was to cow anyone else who might want to out the false causes of the war and the lies told by Bush, Cheney, Rice and others.

In other words, cross us and lose your career.

Walt

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

{{{Valerie Plame was a twenty year career CIA public servant. She dedicated her life to the defense of our country.}}}

Daniella,

So have men like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.

Spare me the faux concern.

If it was so important that her identity be kept secret then she and her husband should have kept their lying mouth’s shut.

Joe Wilson’s own book talks about how she told him she worked undercover for the CIA on their 3rd date.

CIA officers are not supposed to tell their husbands and wives what they do, nevermind their dates.

This whole thing is a farce.

By Paul

March 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

John Q

Seems every time we turn around it’s more grandstanding. Rep Congress did it too, just so we’re clear. There are plenty of investigating arms of the Legislative - Congressional Accountability Office comes to mind - but it seems to me it’s more the majority in Congress uses it more for “gotcha” purposes than for legislative change.

The only thing I’m afraid of is that nothing changes - lots of hype, lots of words, but little’s produced or changed.

By Paul

March 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

NightTrain

Welcome back -

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Paul: Yours is a thoughtful response. Remember, the Wilson piece in the NYT followed the infamous SoU address. Wherein the president said the “British had reported that Iraq sought Yellowcake from Niger”. I feel Joe Wilson wanted to set the record straight. That statement in the SoU was terribly misplaced by our president. Now, we know the CIA told him the underlying assertion was false! God, this is so sad. We’re in an endless war. We aren’t getting the truth from our government. And, we’re locked in this whirpool with these creeps.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

“Now boys and girls, which way is it? Either they are ALL guilty or they are ALL innocent.”

Stupid.

Walt

By Walt

March 20, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

“By Paul

March 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Walt

Excuse me if I no longer respond much - you strike me as a hyper-ideologue without the desire (or ability) to discuss issues.”

Paul,

You were tricked by Bush and his handlers.

It is that simple.

Face it.

Walt

By Walt

March 20, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

“By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Power Line Forum | Plame Takes Oath, Tells First Lie - “Ms Plame and her husband believe her name was made public in order to suggest that she … I did not have the authority,” she said.” Well someone is lying. …

WTF does it take to be a democrat and get LOCKED UP in this country??”

People have to break the law, get caught and convicted to get locked up.

Like Nixon’s Atty General, Mitchell, or Magruder, or Haldeman or Segretti or a number of other Nixon operatives.

Or they can get pardoned, like Wienberger, George, Poindexter and McFarlane, or Nixon himself.

Or they can have their felony convictions thrown out on technicalities, like that scumbag Oliver North.

Or they can go to prison like VP Agnew or Duke Cunningham.

Justice, I hear, is blind.

Walt

By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Well would you look at this! I responded to a post last night on the previous thread and I haven’t been here all day today, yet Blackadder starts right in with his juvenile name calling directed at me. This after calling on everyone else to raise the level of discussion.

What are you going to do next adder? Say you want to punch somebody for pointing out that you’re a punk and a hypocrite?

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

{{{I feel Joe Wilson wanted to set the record straight.}}}

Daniella,

You “feel”? Who cares how you “feel”? How about backing up what you THINK with something from reality.

I KNOW that Cheney was trying to set the record straight when Lying Joe claimed that Cheney sent him to Niger.

I KNOW what the Senate Intelligence Report says.

By Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

March 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

Anybody wanna see some grusome war pictures? I’m especially fond of the one where an American Soldier has nailed a severed Iraqi arm to the entrance of a mosque in order to terrorise the Iraqi resistance. What, don’t like what you see? If you guys want it done different, sign your chit and go do it yourself.

Republicans wanna know why they don’t see GOOD news comin outta Iraq. IVAW members want to know why Republicans censor images like the ones in this link. Why is the BAD news from Iraq being censored out? What are Republicans trying to keep you from learning?

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

BD: I care how I feel. Others here may agree with me. Our government set out to damage a man’s spouse for his report of the truth! I know you won’t answer the question. In your nonanswer we will know more about you. The question is: Why did our government do this to Valerie? Why is it that you have to discredit people? The scapegoating of another is a classic fascist tool. Why?

By Walt

March 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

By LAURIE KELLMAN AP WASHINGTON (March 20) - The White House pushed back Tuesday against Democrats demanding answers on the firings of federal prosecutors, refusing to allow President Bush ‘s top aides to testify publicly and under oath about their roles in the dismissals.”

Another disgrace for Bush.

Walt

By Walt

March 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

“What are Republicans trying to keep you from learning?”

That their policy is endless war.

The Dems are not much better.

Walt

By Buy Danish

March 20, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

Daniella,

It’s not about how you “feel”. It’s about getting to the truth, and your version is based on how you “feel” not on a reasonable interpretation of the events that transpired.

How many boxes of tissues do you go through a day crying and whining and always thinking the worst?? What a pill.

Hey everybody,

I’m running out, but before I go, PETA says, Die Polar Bear! Die!

If liberals have their way it will be Polar bears today, innocent human beings tomorrow.

It’s been said many times before, but it bears (no pun intended) repeating - Liberalism is a disease.

By Daniel

March 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

BD and the Blog: “Why did our government set out to discredit Valerie? If you can’t answer “run oout” like BD.

By Paul

March 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Daniel

I liked the whirlpool analogy.

The real test for the candidates (both sides have made sure we’ll be in Iraq until at least ‘08) will be to come up with recommendations that will let them survive their party’s activists, while still appealing enough to the general populace.

By rushncap

March 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Muffin — “liberalism is a disease”? Wow, did your daddy not hold you tight enough when you were little? Did your mommy tell you that you weren’t pretty enough? What had to transpire in your life for you to get this screwed up? Just wondering…

By getalife

March 20, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

How about a candidate with a brain?

Geez.

w is lying his a-ss off as usual.

If you got nothing to hide, testify under oath on C-Span.

Only wingnuts buy his crap.

Geez.

By Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

March 20, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Depleted Uranium Babies- product of irresponsible American munitions deployment.

By Walt

March 20, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

There is another reason for the war in Iraq other than that PNAC wanted to co-opt our Armed Forces to whack Iraq, and fulfil a strategic objective of Israel with our dead soldiers and cash.

And that was, with the demise of the USSR, it was harder to explain the gigantic Defense Establishment that now pretty much runs all our policies.

All our elected officials in DC wallow in it.

As long as they can stoke fear and take advantage of ignorance, they can all get rich as hell at the people’s expense.

Before you know it, they’ll be saying ” let them eat cake” when the health care system collapses or we have no decent jobs any longer.

And the Dems are just as bad as the Rethugs.

Walt

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

Huh, I never did comment on the cartoon.

Been preoccupied, I reckon.

Well, let me get caught up:

I believe it shows a serious case of pen-is envy that someone would worry over what another man is wearing.

Does this insight not fit the bill, what, with cartoon boy being a little ankle biting coward and Bush being a Jet Pilot, who is so damn good at everything he does that he learned to fly even while he was “AWOL.”

And ponder the fact that Bush bravely rid the world of a tyrannical dictator, a mass murder that even Bill Clinton was frightened of, and the most Mike Luckovich can muster is to carp about some banner.

Yep, pen-is envy.

Lock the Plame bitc-h up.

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By getalife

March 20, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

“The American people would be ill served”.

How w said that with a straight face is beyond me.

Geez.

By Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

March 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Movie clip of American soldiers torturing a crippled and dying dog while on recon in Iraq.

Naaaa, our boys wouldn’t do THAT would they? Seein is believin!

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

NOW we’re getting some where:

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to accept his offer to allow top aides to testify about the firings of federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath, or risk a constitutional showdown from which he would not back down. “We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants,” Bush said in a statement from the White House. “I proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse.” He added: “There’s no indication … that anybody did anything improper.”

Now let’s go after the traitor Plame bitc-h.

Lock her up.

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By Daniel

March 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

PWTW: That picture equals the hate filled screeds from fascisms favorite freak: Andy. The fascist mentality needs hate and war. Historically, they are experts at “False Flag” operations. I pray we get through the next two years. You can see the desperation in this Blog. A desperate fascist will do anything to obtain justification.

By A Wanker Is Worth A Thousand Pictures

March 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

We got some pictures too, dic-khead

By A Wanker Is Worth A Thousand Pictures

March 20, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Insurgents in Iraq detonated an explosives-rigged vehicle with two children in the back seat after US soldiers let it through a Baghdad checkpoint over the weekend, a senior US military official said Tuesday.

By Brandon

March 20, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

You all sound like a bunch of liberal morons! Well, I guess moron is a synonym of liberal, but you get my point. The expense of this war is nothing compared to the expense of American lives on our own soil! You also forget, that our brave soldiers are volunteers wanting to fight to keep this country safe and are proud to do so. We have to stay proactive in this war against terrorism! Have you ever seen a reactive company be succesfull? All the liberals want to do is cut back on military and wait for another attack on our own soil. Nice way to lead a country?!?!?!

By A Wanker Is Worth A Thousand Pictures

March 20, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

We got some pictures too, dic-khead

By Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

March 20, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

INSIDE INFORMATION: Why are American GIs issued candy to distribute to Iraqi children?

Candy is used to attract Iraqi children to American outposts in order to use them as human shields to fend off insurrgent fire. American soldiers are trained to hide behind Iraqi children. Sad but absolutely TRUE!

By @@

March 20, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Peter:

I’m not altogether sure what has your panties knotted up.

My comment on the blog restrictions were nothing more than that.

A comment. You’ve clearly overreacted.

Since you’re eager to insult, I’ll join in your fun.

You see the name of ml’s cartoon?

Wear it like a sign around your neck.

Peter’s Mission Bumbled.

I’m off to vote.

By Picture is Worth a Thousand Words

March 20, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Photos Showing Rape of Iraqi Women by US Occupation Forces

In case anyone is wondering why Iraqis haven’t ‘greeted us as liberators’, maybe you’re startin to get the picture?

By Brandon

March 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

1st of all, our ememy is the Islamic Faciest, and you sound like one yourself. Our internal ememy, are the liberals with their, “Hate the military,” outlook. All the liberals want to do is have the United States run by the rules of the Koran, and with Liberals in power, we would get there before you know it. Secondly, whoever said the thing about our GIs giving candy to children to hide…As I said, Liberal=Moron. Our Honorable military is the reason why you can say things like that, you freakin’ idiot!

By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish(@@),

Suprise b*tch!

Doom is back. Bet you didn’t see this coming. I’m going to make it my business to ensure that your two faced a$$ catches hell on these blogs. You cannot escape the wrath of Doom!!

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

{{{Candy is used to attract Iraqi children to American outposts in order to use them as human shields to fend off insurrgent fire. American soldiers are trained to hide behind Iraqi children. Sad but absolutely TRUE!}}}

What a true piece of sh-it this person is.

Every day, day in and day out, Al Qaeda kills women and children, targets them, and this filthy maggot infested trash is going to make sick accusations against the brave men that put their lives on the line to stop the terrorists?

Hey picture scum, GFY.

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By Lord Doom

March 20, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

If you work for Luckovich, tell him Doom said to kiss my a$$. He’s a homocrat waiting to get Doomed.

By Brandon

March 20, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Well said LuckoDull!!!

By Walt

March 20, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

As promised, here is the scoop on Luckodull’s latest spin job:

“But the gold tonight shared by Brit Hume and Chris Wallace of Fox Noise, who accused Valerie Plame Wilson of perjuring herself when she testified she did not recommend her husband for the CIA trip to Niger. Hume said that contradicted a bipartisan finding by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Only -it-wasn‘t-a-bipartisan-finding-. It was a note, written by three Republican senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and it was a note about the testimony of a CIA employee, who later recanted his testimony. Yet Wallace asked, so she was lying under oath? And Hume replied, I think that there is reason to question her credibility on that point.

Wallace and Hume, remember when they used to work in news? Brit Hume and Chris Wallace of Fox Noise, today‘s Worst Persons in the World.”

By @@

March 20, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Doom:

Please refrain from putting my @@’s inside parenthesis.

It looks bad….really bad.

See what I’m talking about (@@)

(Buy Danish) in parenthesis looks fine, but you’ll need to ask her which she prefers.

With parenthesis or without…

By getalife

March 20, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Funny how Plame testified under oath but w’s w-hores will not.

Cowards.

If you got nothing to hide, testify under oath.

Of course they are hiding something and want to keep lying.

Lying liars.

By LuckoDull

March 20, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

I don’t care what Brit Hume said, Wanker, where have I quoted him?

All I care about is what this bitc-h said:

MS. PLAME WILSON: No. I did not recommend him, I did not suggest him, there was no nepotism involved — I didn’t have the authority.

That’s perjury, hehehe.

Lock the bitc-h up.

BTW, picture scum’s^^ evidence is FAKE.

All of them are fake pictures, Al Qaeda propaganda.

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By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

Has there ever in the history of, and I almost hate to use the word here, journalism a less credible source than MSNBC?

Walt,

Do you really want us to believe that the CIA managed to find the lying incompetent boob, Joe Wilson, on their own and sent him to Niger? Maybe he was in a heavy make out session with some other spook that told him about the job opening, like when the super secret Valerie Plame blabbed about it on their third date.

Speaking of incompetent, the only other real screw-up, besides the school bus commander, during Katrina is not running for reelection. I guess even Louisiana saw through her gambit of trying to blame Bush for her blunders.

By rushncap

March 20, 2007 10:29 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Stalk, there has been. I can think of 2 off the top of my head: Pravda and Fox news. There are more, of course (I don’t consider right-wing blogs to be journalism at all), I just can’t think of many.

As for Joe Wilson, he was right. There was no Saddam-Niger link. At all. So shove that in your pipe (or up your nether regions, if you prefer) and smoke it.

And by the way, even some of your brethren, Stalk, are laying off the crack pipe and starting to run away from the Shrub. What that means, of course, isn’t that these politicians saw the light (they certainly saw it a long time ago), but that their conservative constituents are starting to do that as well. I have a feeling that Bush’s farewell speech will be attended by his dog, and maybe a couple of his dog’s stray friends.

By RW-(the original)

March 20, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this

Dmitry,

Have any of the “smart people” that keep you around for laughs ever explained to you what a rhetorical question is?

By the way, Joe Wilson wrote in his book that Saddam was nosing around for trade agreements. Do you think he needed a new goat or chick pea supplier?

P.S. Pravda is at least funny, which is more than I can say for the Olberdouche. You’ve got a point about Fox News though, they’re crawling with liberals.

Bonus question. Can you tell me the attendance figure for any President’s farewell address?

By rushncap

March 20, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this

I’m well aware of what a rhetorical question is. I simply chose to answer it. What’s your point? As for Saddam “nosing around”, you’re suggesting that this supposed “nosing” is enough to invade? I mean, you nose around the internet looking for people’s info, should the feds arrest you for internet fraud?

P.S. You’ve never read Pravda. Don’t pretend. Bonus answer: don’t know / care. Are you trying to suggest that Presidents don’t have some sort of a farewell address, regardless of what it’s called?

By RW-(the original)

March 21, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this

Oh where to begin with poor little rushncap…

For one I never said, nor did the President say, that Iraq was invaded because Saddam was looking for “goats” in Niger.

Second, if your theory that using google constitutes internet fraud takes hold there are going to be some very strained Federal courts.

P.S. answer. I read Pravda daily and I have several witnesses that can attest to the fact that Pravda is one of my favorite blog post sources. (Do you EVER tire of being wrong?)

Presidents typically give a televised farewell so your attendance figures are meaningless, but if you want to prove that you have EVER made a statement you can back with fact, try Nielsen. Good Luck!

By Peter

March 21, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

I’m still here …

@@ - You strike me as a sensitive person (just a little too sensitive).

(What’s with the remark about name changes? It appears you may have made up “@@” to disguise yourself. My moniker is genuine.)

By @@

March 21, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Oh dearest Peter, somehow I knew you’d return…and after closing no less.

Hmmmmm, a long time visitor to the site I would guess, but a name that’s “very new”.

You’re partially right on your first comment. I am “too sensitive”, but only on behalf of others less fortunate, never on behalf of myself.

Had you been here for awhile (and I think you have), you would know that I’ve weathered many a verbal attack from leftists. They haven’t phased me. Haven’t destroyed my confidence, and most definitely have not “hurt” the sensitivities that you have bestowed upon me.

Your second comment regarding name changes. Of course I made up @@. My “real name” is Petra…NOT!!!

You’re a funny fellow Peter. I’ll tap into my deeply buried sensitivities; the ones I reserve for bloggers, and grant you your much “sought after” win.

No skin off my nose.

By Peter

March 22, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Forgive me … I didn’t know this blog was “closed.” Thanks for telling me.

By Peter

March 22, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Are you sure it’s closed? (It must be if YOU say so.)

By Peter

March 26, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

@@ said this blog was closed last week.

Would somebody plese tell the AJC she said so?

By Peter

March 27, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

(@@ you could be wrong about that.)

By Peter

March 28, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

(@@ you could be wrong about that.)

By Peter

March 30, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

(@@ you could be wrong about that.)