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Prying it open
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By LuckoDull
March 10, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
Uh-oh, the libs are looking for some last minute Pulitzer Prize slam dunks:
CIA Holds Terror Suspects in Secret Prisons- Debate Is Growing Within Agency About Legality and Morality of Overseas System Set Up After 9/11- Dana Priest: 2006 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Category of Beat Reporting
And-
The New York Times took home several Pulitzers. The paper took home another prize in National Reporting for their December 2005 story by James Risen and Eric Lichtblau about the NSA’s secret domestic wiretapping program.
As Americans we should all be frightened by this, it is going to be hard to top the treasonous acts by journalism last year, what do they do this year for good show, tell the terrorists where we keep our nuclear bombs at?
It isn’t like they are looking for anything simple, like the truth about Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.
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By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 7:56 AM | Link to this
By the way, these are the same Democrats who didn’t raise a whimper when Bill Clinton’s Attorney General Janet Reno sacked all 93 U.S. attorneys in one unclean sweep upon taking office. Previous Presidents had kept the attorneys in place until they could replace each one. That was a more serious abuse than anything known about these Bush dismissals.- Opinion Journal Editorial.
Huh, all 93 at once. That’s a lot more than 8.
Where was Chucky Schumer then?
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Wilson is the Titus Oates of our time, a liar whose lies served the needs of a political faction. Oates’s lie was that there was a “popish plot” to murder King Charles II; Wilson’s lie was part of the “Bush lied and people died” mantra that has become the canonical version of history to much of the mainstream media and the Democratic Party.- Michael Barone, RealClearPolitics.
Any lie will work for the libs.
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Timothy Ball, a former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg in Canada, has received five deaths threats by email since raising concerns about the degree to which man was affecting climate change. One of the emails warned that, if he continued to speak out, he would not live to see further global warming. “Western governments have pumped billions of dollars into careers and institutes and they feel threatened,” said the professor.-Tony Harper, Telegraph, Link on Drudge homepage.
If the “global warming” doesn’t kill you, some pinko will.
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By Mrs, Godzilla
March 12, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this
No surprises here.
The subject presented is secrecy. Our first placed poster fills space with his favorite flavor of partisan nonsense.
Let’s not address the issue. Let’s circumnavigate, obfuscate, and shirk. Then call in the troops to post pedagogic, smug and oleanginous claptrap.
I recommend reading John Dean’s Worse than Watergate.
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla - Your blurb today sounds more like attack the messenger when you cannot attack the message. LuckoDull was right on. He just presented barebones facts about certain events. He made no judgments no one else would make. Come up with some facts to counter his.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
DUSTY ARE YOU UP YET?
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this
BFD (interesting acronym),
Andy’s post shows how partisan the firing of 8 attorneys really is. While the firing of all attorneys might be viewed as stupid because it will impact (slow down) prosecutions already begun, it is unlikely to be partisan…and it certainly didn’t appear to be timed to influence an election.
By @@
March 12, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
Gosh ml…how many “dems” does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Why are the Mr. & Mrs. “L” in the dark?
Oops! Nevermind…..
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
It’s shaping up to be another week of scandals and outrages from team Bush. One highlight will be watching Valerie Plame testify before Rep. Henry Waxman’s committee. The Bush Administration talks tough on security for political reasons. But, they sure view the people who do the real work, like soldiers and CIA operatives, as expendable.
By Brian Curtis
March 12, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
If there’s one thing the Bushies hate more than accountability, it’s honesty.
We got a real prize in this White House, that’s for sure.
By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
N-GA,
I’m going to be in your neck of the woods all day so I won’t see your response until tonight, but please explain how these firings were timed to influence an election. You do know when the last election was and when the firings took place don’t you?
Mrs. G,
If you read the fishwrapper you would know that this cartoon has nothing to do with the Bush administration. BDS acting this morning?
LuckoDull,
Thanks for linking some great articles this morning. If some of the peanut gallery would read them instead of sniping at you they might learn something.
By Mrs. Godzilla
March 12, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
Mr. Duddy
Good Morning…
It is not worth my time to try and counter LD this morning or any morning for that matter.
Each of the issues he touches on have been debunked here time and time again.
Our facts v. Their facts. Dueling posts. Powerline says this. Crooks and Liars says that.
He can not listen or understand an opposing point of view. Neither can you.
Frankly, I won’t listen to or attempt understanding of your view either any longer. There is way to much left to do to waste anymore time preaching to those who are about to be left behind by their masters.
There are people however, who can be reached. I am spending my time growing the new progressive/populist base.
You see how reasonable conversation turns in to bitter churlish bickering as the day goes on here. I used to get involved with it pretty regularly. Now, I try to state my thought and get out of the way of the mud slinging.
I’m not at all sure that you really can’t teach an old dog new tricks - but I can and do reach many, many more young pups.
Peace
By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Blackadder,
What do you think the odds are that Valerie Plame will be under oath?
My guess is 0.00.
By Walt
March 12, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
“Wilson’s lie was part of the “Bush lied and people died” mantra that has become the canonical version of history to much of the mainstream media…”
Bush did lie and people have died, for nothing.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
RW,
Here is one example.
About the toon, I read this as an attack on government secrecy regardless of political bias. The AJC had a significant article this weekend on FOIA problems here in Georgia. The paper identified problems going back to when the Dems controlled state politics and denied Republican Legislators access to requested info. This problems continues today at every level of state & local government.
…of the People, by the People, for the People…my a$$
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Godzilla:
1) My very first post does address government secrets, those that were leaked and published by a bunch of treasonous pinkos.
What are you talking about?
2) Why is your whining and wailing not considered “partisan” but my presentation of the facts is?
Maybe cause you don’t like what you’re hearing?
It’s just simple facts, Clinton fired all 93 AG’s with out the first considerations and replaced them with his people, a stone cold act of political patronage.
And now you libs are going to harp because Bush did it to 8 AG’s after 6 years?
Look in the mirror, hypocrite.
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By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
{{{If the “global warming” doesn’t kill you, some pinko will.}}}
LuckoDull,
Very good! Thanks for the links.
N-GA,
Who is “BFD”? Was that a snafu on your part and are you talking to yourself?
RW,
I hope at least one Republican has the cojones to grill Ms. Plame, although we both know she will not be under oath.
When they Plame-Wilson’s launch their civil trial aren’t they in danger of perjury when they prepare their lying affadavits?
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
Too funny
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
@@,
Thanks for the “refreshing” instant posting tip! It worked!
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
A Justice Department audit concludes that the FBI broke the law in its use of the Patriot Act to secretly obtain phone, business, and financial data about people in the US.
The report also found that for three years, the FBI understated to Congress how frequently it forced businesses to hand over that private information.
This is where Bush’s spying on Americans has led us. I hope you wingnut morons are proud.
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
Mrs Godzilla,
Here’s the difference between the libs and conservatives on this blog.
When you Libs post a link to something, I try to read it, parse through it, and debunk it.
When we post something you act as if it is contaminated with nuclear material and refuse to even look at it, never mind actually read it.
Ignorance is bliss to Useful Idiots.
By Mrs. Godzilla
March 12, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this
Gee whiz, LD
You are one great big straight line after another.
You just don’t have any bait that interests me.
Now, go pick on someone as small as yourself.
Y’all try to keep it clean today.
By Truthman
March 12, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Glad to be back.
As I was saying, Cheney will be gone by the end of this month (30 March at 7 p.m.).
He won’t be the last.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
DUSTY? WHERE ARE YOU?
THIS ONES FOR YOU…..
Salon reports that the military “is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.”
By Jesus
March 12, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
TRUTHMAN
LETS START A POOL - ON CHENEYS RESIGNATION DATE
COURSE YOU PICKED THE BEST DATE>
ILL PUT TEN BUCKS ON APRIL 6TH
THINK LUCKOVICH WOULD HOLD THE MONEY?
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla,
Keep it clean???????????????????????
Surely you jest! You know, I don’t think you libs even read what fellow your teammates post.
It’s as if your lives are spent standing on a soap box like some crazed guy sporting a “THE END IS NEAR!” sandwich board, closing your eyes and holding fingers in your ears shouting “lalalalalalalalala” to drown out reality.
By NIght Train
March 12, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
Mrs Godzilla, Interesting post this morning (8:52). The way the left likes to builds its ‘facts’ are to have 50 people repeat them over and over, regardless of the actual ‘facts’. That is your ‘truth’. If you repeat the lies long enough then you can present them as facts. Spin on zilla, the lefts days are numbered.
As for your not listening, that is nothing new. You NEVER listen to the truth if it does not support your agenda. Damn the truth, full speed ahead.
Try and present one bit of ‘truth’ to dispute what LD posted. Leave your opinions and crystal ball out of it. Just facts! The ‘fact’ that your battle cry is Bush Lied, does not hold up in the light of day.
You need to be on Jeff Foxworhty’s new show, it would be hilarious and you would not get past the first question, you’re too blind to realize you need help.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
BUT THEY WONT CALL IT CUT AND RUN WILL THEY???
Pentagon planners have begun work on a fallback position for Iraq that includes a phased pullout of US troops in case the current “surge” strategy fails or is undercut by Congress, a newspaper reported Monday.
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS IS BRAIN DAMAGED.
By NIght Train
March 12, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Mrs Godzilla, Interesting post this morning (8:52). The way the left likes to builds its ‘facts’ are to have 50 people repeat them over and over, regardless of the actual ‘facts’. That is your ‘truth’. If you repeat the lies long enough then you can present them as facts. Spin on zilla, the lefts days are numbered.
As for your not listening, that is nothing new. You NEVER listen to the truth if it does not support your agenda. Damn the truth, full speed ahead.
Try and present one bit of ‘truth’ to dispute what LD posted. Leave your opinions and crystal ball out of it. Just facts! The ‘fact’ that your battle cry is Bush Lied, does not hold up in the light of day.
You need to be on Jeff Foxworhty’s new show, it would be hilarious and you would not get past the first question, you’re too blind to realize you need help.
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
RW - I don’t know if Valerie Plame will be under oath or not but I agree she should be. Anyone who testifies in any Congressional committee should be put under oath. Funny how members of Bush’s goon squad hate the notion of being under oath.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
AND THE BAD NEWS KEEPS ON COMING
Top American generals make shock admission as Iraq leader pleads with neighbouring countries to seal off their borders. The US army is lagging behind Iraq’s insurgents tactically in a war that senior officers say is the biggest challenge since Korea 50 years ago.
The gloomy assessment at a conference in America last week came as senior US and Iraqi officials sat down yesterday with officials from Iran, Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia in Baghdad to persuade Iraq's neighbours to help seal its borders against fighters, arms and money flowing in. During the conference the US, Iranian and Syrian delegations were reported to have had a 'lively exchange'. In a bleak analysis, senior officers described the fighters they were facing in Iraq and Afghanistan 'as smart, agile and cunning'.By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
COMRADES ALL
Washington - Presidential advisor Karl Rove and at least one other member of the White House political team were urged by the New Mexico Republican party chairman to fire the state's U.S. attorney because of dissatisfaction in part with his failure to indict Democrats in a voter fraud investigation in the battleground election state.By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
In a chilling analysis of the PATRIOT Act, the ACLU points out that the new definition of “domestic terrorist” redefines any US criminal as a terrorist, exempt from due process and an open trial. “Domestic terrorists” can have their assets seized without a hearing, have their educational records pulled, and a host of other nasties. “Terrorism” is now officially meaningless: as far as the PATRIOT Act is concerned, if you do anything the government doesn’t like, you’re a terrorist. When you put it that way, it seems even less likely that we’ll win the “war on terror.”
By Truthman
March 12, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Another reason to love the ACLU and not trust the Bushies!
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ACLUrefutesFBIsclaimsofunintentional0310.html
Thank goodness for the ACLU!
By Quote(s) of the Day
March 12, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
“Naturally, the common people don’t want war … but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.” –Hermann Goering
“The unwilling, led by the incompetent, to do the unnecessary, for the ungrateful” –found inscribed on a vietnam-era coffin
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.” –Dwight Eisenhower (The last Great Republican)
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
Take the Fascist Dictator Test
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
ROVIE IS DOING A HECK OF A JOB…
Justice Dept. silent on Rove role. “A White House spokesman said yesterday that President Bush dismissed the call for Mr. Gonzales’s resignation. ‘The president… has confidence in the attorney general,’ the spokesman, R. Alexander Conant. … Mr. Conant referred questions about Mr. Rove’s alleged involvement in the dismissals of the New Mexico prosecutor to the Justice Department. In a statement, a spokesman there, Brian Roehrkasse, did not address that issue.”
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
I THINK THIS BEARS SOME CLOSER INSPECTION…
Waxman plans hearing on Halliburton move. Time’s Karen Tumulty comments on Halliburton’s plan to move its headquarters from Houston to Dubai: “Is this about tax breaks? Getting beyond the reach of congressional subpoenas? And what about all that sensitive information that Halliburton has had access to? At a minimum, reincorporating in Dubai would mean that Halliburton will be paying less taxes to the U.S. Treasury, even as it collects billions from government contracts.” She also reports, “Henry Waxman is already planning to hold a hearing on this, an aide tells me.”
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS BETS WITH CONFEDERATE MONEY.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
DOES THIS SURPRISE ANY MEMBER OF THE REALITY BASED COMMUNITY
Fox News tries to whitewash the record. Newshounds reports that “the editors at FOXNews.com ignored 145 articles listed in a Google search that objectively told of the decision by Nevada Democrats to cancel a Democratic presidential candidate debate.” Instead, FoxNews.com highlighted an editorial from the Las Vegas Review Journal that condemned the decision, claiming the “lunatic fringe” is in charge.
By Walt
March 12, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
“Justice Dept. silent on Rove role. “A White House spokesman said yesterday that President Bush dismissed the call for Mr. Gonzales’s resignation. ‘The president… has confidence in the attorney general,’”
Based on how Bush handled the departure of Rumsfeld, his comments on Gonzalez are not worth a bunch of stirred up electrons.
Walt
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
NO, DUH.
General: Conservatives Are ‘Absolutely The Worst Thing That’s Happened’ To The U.S. Military Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, who was in charge of training the Iraqi military from 2003 to 2004, appeared last night on HBO’s Bill Maher Show.
“We are in the midst of recovering right now from a constitutional crisis where you had the executive trump the other branches of government,” Eaton said. “Thank god” Congress changed hands in November, he said, giving us “a chance to unsort and figure out how to get out from under this.”
Eaton lamented that so many service members believe that conservatives “are good for the military.” “That is rarely the case. And we have got to get a message through to every soldier, every family member, every friend of soldier,” that the Bush administration and its allies in Congress have “absolutely been the worst thing that’s happened to the United States Army and the United States Marine Corps.”
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
The AJC is reporting that the Clayton County Board of Commissioners is considering a $.01 additional sales tax on retail items sold at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. They are using a state law written/passed to encourage counties in the GAA to allow MARTA to operate their mass-transit systems.
However that is not why they are really considering the new tax. What they are trying to do is to relieve county financial woes by adding $2 million in new revenue.
Most of this tax will be paid for by individuals who do not reside in Clayton County…they do not vote for County Commissioners there.
This is another example of taxation without representation. King George must be laughing his arse off.
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
Today’s comic that doesn’t suck either.
Right-wing distortion
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS PLAYS DODGE BALL WITH FACTS.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
By N-GA March 12, 2007 10:21 AM The AJC is reporting that the Clayton County Board of Commissioners is considering a $.01 additional sales tax on retail items sold at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. Blah, blah, blah. King George must be laughing his arse off.
Mountain Girl: WTF does Bush have to do with Clayton County??
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By Dusty
March 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS IS A COMRADE IN THE COMMUNE.
IN THE NEWSIE DOESN’T HAVE A JOB.
IN THE NEWS ANALYTIC CONVERTER DOES NOT PASS INSPECTION.
IN THE NEWS READS TEA LEAVES.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
IT AINT EASY BEING GREEN….
The Government Accountability Office is looking into allegations that the Federal government conspired to limit benefits to ill and dying nuclear weapons workers. Some 60,000 workers referred to as “Special Exposure Cohorts”, are waiting for help from the people who were supposed to protect them.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
Now Andy (the Bed Wetter),
Everyone will be laughing at you, idiot.
This tidbit is free: King George ruled England when the colonists protested against his taxes, saying that they refused to pay taxes without representation. Remeber learning about the Boston Tea Party? Perhaps you were too stoned/drunk when that lesson was being taught.
LMAO
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
By N-GA March 12, 2007 10:37 AM This tidbit is free: King George ruled England when the colonists protested against his taxes, saying that they refused to pay taxes without representation. Remeber learning about the Boston Tea Party? Perhaps you were too stoned/drunk when that lesson was being taught.
Mountain Girl: WTF does King George of England have to do with Clayton County??
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By Dusty
March 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS USES DUH INSTEAD OF DEMO UNDERCOVER HIPPOCRIT.
IN THE NEWS IS NOT A GREEN. HE IS A RED!!
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Pentagon’s number two suggests terror war will end in Oct. 2008 Michael Roston Published: Wednesday February 28, 2007
Print This Email This
WERENT WE TALKING ABOUT DEMS AND THIS DATE LAST WEEK
The Department of Defense’s number two official appears to imply in a memo that the Global War on Terrorism will end just in time for the presidential election in November 2008. The contents of the document are outlined in a column in today’s Washington Post.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Lyin Andy (the BedWetter),
We’re still laughing. I suspect you had to change your Depends after that fiasco. If your 10:49 post is the best retort you have, you need to call it a day….dimwit.
SLMAO
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
The fact remains that the Clayton County Commission is an elected body and they (for good or ill) have ever right to tax sales in their county. I must pay taxes on my house in NC even though I am technically a resident in Atlanta. I also have to pay sales taxes wherever I go, whether or not I am a resident. The British Parliament (not the king) was forcing “special” taxes on the colonists to help pay for the French and Indian (Seven Years) War. Very different circumstances.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
In 1938, prime minister Neville Chamberlain returned from Munich and expressed the peace movement’s position in terms that now sound like he was channeling the Baker-Hamilton report: “We should seek by all means in our power to avoid war, by analyzing possible causes, by trying to remove them, by discussion in a spirit of collaboration and good will. I cannot believe that such a program would be rejected by the people of this country, even if it does mean the establishment of personal contact with the dictators.” Yet it was the adoption of such a policy by democracies that led directly to emboldening the Nazis, and inevitably to war.-National Review Saul Singer.
Sounds alot like our modern day candy as-ses, don’t it? Let’s join hands and sing songs with the suicide bombers, that will impress them.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and not lose 50,000,000 people like Chamberlin did.
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By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
DUSTY CAN”T GET OVER IN THE NEWS
IN THE NEWS IS FLATTERED BY ITS ATTENTION
IN THE NEWS WILL SWIFFER DUSTY
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull - Bravo on the 11:00 a.m. post. I remember it well. I remember my Papa saying that we would never fight another “great” war because people like Chamberlain were willing to sit down and talk. I was 11 then. Many of my friends didn’t make it to twenty!
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
By N-GA March 12, 2007 10:55 AM We’re still laughing.
Mountain Girl: WTF is we?
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By Midori
March 12, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
ROFL,
N-GA, Andy failed his History lesson miserably, and what does he do? Try to one-up you with something even stupider than he posted before.
Mrs. Godzilla - your 8:52 is excellent. Pity it just went right over the head of the usual, er, um, ‘posters’.
Keep on keeping on.
By history buff
March 12, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
All of you should go to historychannel.com/todayinhistory and look up World War II. Today is the 69th annivesary of Hitler’s Anschluss of Austria. It is quite relevant today because of certain people’s insistance (Democrat and Republican) that we just sit down and negotiate with our enemies and they will come to a civilized understanding with us.
By mountain man
March 12, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
The wingnuts on this forum, led by the infamous Andy Dull, are about as much fun to try to have a meaningful conversation with as trying to reason with a rattlesnake. They are as devoted to their demigod Dubya as all those sorry misguided fools in Jonestown were to Jim Jones.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
OFD,
Just because others are taxed without the opportunity for representation doesn’t make it right. That method of debate is weak, at best.
Those Commissioners should raise the sales tax in the entire county rather than isolate the burden to people who are not their constituents.
BTW, if you didn’t pay taxes on your NC house, then you shouldn’t drive on the roads or use the police/sheriff in the area. You derive benefits from those taxes in the same way that your NC neighbors do.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
whatcha gonna come back with next, Andy?
Seward’s Folly?
Destruction of the Hindenberg?
Sinking of the Titanic?
I’m quite sure you can use any of those events to ‘prove’ the Democrats are wrong about Iraq.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
By Mrs. Godzilla
March 12, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
Thanks Midori
Last November we brought the fight out of the trenches. No need to crawl back into the muck.
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
LuckoDull,
I think N-GA is smoking tea.
Regarding the use of the word “We”, it’s very curious. Midori once told me how “they” hate me and laugh at me blah blah blah (awwwwwwwwww, my feelings were so hurt by this news!/SARC).
Presumably “they” work together or meet to sip bad Chardonnay with Goldie. Or maybe “laughing” involves text-messaging smiley faces?
N-GA,
I’M laughing at YOU and your ridiculous outrage over Clayton County imposing a sales tax at the Airport. Are you a vendor there or something? Why do you care so much?
This has nothing to do with “taxation without representation”. ANYONE who shops in any county pays a sales tax whose proceeds benefit that county whether one lives in that county or not.
So what??????????????????????????????
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS…I BEG TO DIFFER. WHAT IS A SWIFFER?
IN THE NEWS IS WINDIER THAN KATRINA. I RETREAT FROM ALL THE HOT AIR. BYE!!
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
By mountain man March 12, 2007 11:21 AM The wingnuts on this forum, led by the infamous Andy Dull, are about as much fun to try to have a meaningful conversation with as trying to reason with a rattlesnake.
Mountain Girl: At least we’re not asking elementary school trick questions to the blog and then giggling to ourselves all alone in our basement, like you are.
Hey, what ever floats your boat.
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By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
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Ohh My! —-
AndyDull is a Traitor to the United States of America (in favor of a totalitarian despot country)!
Andy now thinks That “Freedom of the Press” should be crushed by the government and we should live under a closed society of Government Controlled Info, and Secret hidden courts. That individual rights should be trampled in the name of securing the country from danger. Freedom be damned!
[As Americans we should all be frightened by this, it is going to be hard to top the treasonous acts by journalism last year, what do they do this year for good show, tell the terrorists where we keep our nuclear bombs at?]
AndyDull — Freedom of the press is the very most important freedom that we have. The Rights of the People of America to gain info about everything that their government is doing in their name!
You purport to take away the control of our government “For the People, by the People” and thus make the USA a rule by a Totalitarian Government Power. Would you prefer a Monarchy? Empire? Theocracy? Dictatorship? — I mean you definitly don’t want a free society where the people are in charge and aware of everything the government is doing.
This may help you understand the importance of a Free Press Andy:
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/rightsof/press.htm
And this applies directly to you!
[One sign of the importance of a free press is that when antidemocratic forces take over a country, their first act is often to muzzle the press.]
Andy - You Traitor!
Thomas/PNAC
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
By Midori March 12, 2007 11:26 AM whatcha gonna come back with next, Andy? Seward’s Folly? Destruction of the Hindenberg? Sinking of the Titanic? I’m quite sure you can use any of those events to ‘prove’ the Democrats are wrong about Iraq.
I thought Chamberlin’s appeasement of the Nazis was an apt description of you modern day candy as-s liberals, those 1938 pinkos were all happy cause Hitler talked to them right before he swarmed over their borders.
WTF does the Hindenburg have to do with anything?
Is this psycho Monday or what?
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By N-GA
March 12, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Eat More Danish:
You (and your ilk) love to display your hypocrisy here every day.
If we were discussing raising the tax rate of the weathiest 2% of Americans, you would be filling your Depends. But you support taxing a select few to the exclusion of those who benefit from the tax….
You will take a position against what I (or the AJC) says just because of who is saying it…and make yourself look foolish in the process.
LMAO
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
If Lying Andy (the BedWetter) & Eat More Danish lived back in 1776, they would have been Loyalists!!!
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Time for a little history lesson about the term “No taxation without Representation” for N-GA and his chorus of squawking parrots:
The point was that the colonies had no representation in Parliament; the British responded that they were “virtually” represented. The Americans said these “virtual representatives” knew nothing about America. The Americans rejected the Stamp Act 1765 (which was repealed), and in 1773 violently rejected the tax on tea at the Boston Tea Party. When Great Britain began to crackdown on the illegal activities performed by the colonists, the colonists formed militias and seized control of each colony, ousting the royal governors. The complaint was never over the amount of taxation (which was small), but always on the decision-making process by which taxes were decided in London, without representation for the colonists in British Parliament. By the 1760s the Americans came to believe they were being deprived of a historic right.
N-GA,
Maybe you’re not from here and as a non-citizen who can’t vote you have no representation in Congress and therefore think it’s terribly unfair to have to pay sales taxes?
Do you want to eliminate all sales taxes?
I’m really digging deep to find the mother lode of your argument, but all I’m coming up with is Fool’s Gold.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 12, 2007 11:40 AM Andy now thinks That “Freedom of the Press” should be crushed by the government and we should live under a closed society of Government Controlled Info, and Secret hidden courts. That individual rights should be trampled in the name of securing the country from danger. Freedom be damned!
Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad: I know you have no idea what you are talking about, after all the closest you probably got to combat is the last time your sister rubbed your face in the dirt, but you usually don’t tell the enemy what your plans are during a war.
Not if you plan on winning, anyway.
Which may explain why you libs like to know our secrets.
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By N-GA
March 12, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Big Fat Danish:
Go back and re-read my 11:48…then have a fifth grade student explain it to you…it’s not all that difficult.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
The scandal of the week! The Bush Administration is the most corrupt in our history. This week the ousted US Attorney’s ar testifying before Congress. Why were they fired? For Fighting Crime! Republicans are against crime until they get caught. The US Attorney from San Diego prosecuted that crook Cunningham. Her reward? Bush sacks her! Why? The president only wanted her to go after democrats! Now wwe know what he meant by “Mission Accomplished”. The “Mission” was to use government power to BS the people and prosecute the innocent (i.e. Plame and Wilson.
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
DUSTY MUST NOT KEEP A NEAT HOUSE
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
[By Daniel March 12, 2007 12:01 PM The scandal of the week! The Bush Administration is the most corrupt in our history. This week the ousted US Attorney’s ar testifying before Congress. Why were they fired?!?!?!]RE)
Uh-huh:
Bode did note Reno’s unprecedented decision to fire all 93 U.S. Attorneys “has become a highly visible test of how political the Justice Department will be under Bill Clinton and Janet Reno.”http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/1997/fax19971203.asp
Hypocrites.
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By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
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Sir Gaseous Smelly Wind Of Andy-Dull
I am more aware of combat and troop’s security than you could ever hope to know! (or ever will!) My time spent at King’s Bay Nuclear Refit Facility, and Fort McClellan Chemical Weapons, alone should tell you I have a bit of time with military security issues.
This issue you posted is not about secret military planning, this is about CIA secret prisons. Are you that stupid that you try and compare the two?
[The CIA and the White House, citing national security concerns and the value of the program, have dissuaded Congress from demanding that the agency answer questions in open testimony about the conditions under which captives are held.]
Prisons without even congressional oversite! Prisons without judicial oversite as to basic rights. Secret prisons that have even held american citizens without due process.
These prisons are not Military or Judicial, but are Administration prisons.
This has absolutly nada’ to do with secret planning of Military strategy and the need for security in combat tactics.
This is not about winning a war, it is about a way to secretly torture info out of people. And it is well on it’s way to destroying the basics of what we call freedom in this country.
There is nothing in the world that says we cannot “openly” try and convict Terrorist in the public arena of this country and it’s judicial systems. I think the terrorist trials should be made public in international courts and televised! Let the world see these evil terrorist for what they are!
But you prefer the secret Gulag’s and death camps over justice! You want monkey court justice!
Cheers to your Despotic Empire Andy!
Thomas/PNAC
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Fruitcake: Bush ousted his own US Attorneys. Reno cleaned house on arrival. SOP. Gee Whiz. Can’t you be honest, just once?
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
The joke is on you.
I have read all of your utterly idiotic posts today with your absurd arguments that a sales tax is unfair because you, N-GA, don’t get to vote for the Clayton County Commissioner.
I ask again, why do you care so much if people who zip through Hartsfield Airport, people who live all over the world, have to pay an extra penny to Clayton County?
For example, do you think that if you, the pompous wine connoisseur, take a trip to the Napa Valley or to a vineyard in France, or dine at a restaurant where you order beef tips anywhere outside of Mountain Goat County that it is unfair to have to pay local taxes?
Please, help me out here.
By Magneto
March 12, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
Hello everyone. I am MAGNETO, the Master of Magnetism. Recently, I came upon the discovery that Buy Danish is also @@. I believe that multiple ID use has no place on this blog and her comments should be therefore ignored from now on unless she fesses up. What do you have to say today Buy Danish?
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
IN THE NEWS DOES NOT HAVE A HOUSE.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 12:21 PM Fruitcake: Bush ousted his own US Attorneys. Reno cleaned house on arrival. SOP. Gee Whiz. Can’t you be honest, just once?
My Gawd, I can’t believe these little candy as-s liberals, what utter partisan dunces they are.
Reno/ Clinton’s firing of the 93 was purely politcal, they had been appointed by HW Bush.
THAT IS THE CHARGE THAT IS BEING BROUGHT AGAINST BUSH BY YOU DULLARDS, THAT IT WAS POLITICAL.
Firing 8 guys sounds to me like a performance issue.
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By Magneto
March 12, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
Hello everyone. I am MAGNETO, the Master of Magnetism. Recently, I came upon the discovery that Buy Danish is also @@. I believe that multiple ID use has no place on this blog and her comments should be therefore ignored from now on unless she fesses up. What do you have to say today Buy Danish?
By Magneto
March 12, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
Hello everyone. I am MAGNETO, the Master of Magnetism. Recently, I came upon the discovery that Buy Danish is also @@. I believe that multiple ID use has no place on this blog and her comments should be therefore ignored from now on unless she fesses up. What do you have to say today Buy Danish?
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad: So why would “outing” Valerie Plame’s name be a “national security issue,” like you pinkos called it?
Huh?
Huh?
Dullard.
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By getalife
March 12, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Every single post by Andy is making excuses for this failed adminitration, the worst in US history.
Clinton, blah, blah, blah.
Andy,
Is there anything that w has done that you do not suk up to?
Or are you a complete w w*******?
Geeez.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Ate Too Many Danishes:
I’m glad you asked for my help. Here it is, one more time:
If the Commissioners passed a $.01 sales tax increase for ALL RETAIL SALES IN THE COUNTY, then it would be a “Fair Tax” (something you wingnuts like). But these elected offals (sic) want to pass a tax increase that won’t pi$$ off their constituents, so they target people who can do little about it. In your lame example, you ignore the fact that all local people in wine country, France, etc. also would pay the same tax as I, a visitor would.
You’re as bad as Bush, trying to defend the indefensible.
What a h’roid!!
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
Did you just call Andy (the BedWetter) a W Wanker?
LMAO
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this
gitmo: This morning you candy as-sed liberals were blaming Bush for raising taxes at the airport.
You think I’m obsessed?
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By Daniel
March 12, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Tubby: Because the democrats might have done it does not make it right! Is there something wrong with you? When a new president takes office he hires new US Attorneys. Thus he fires those appointed by his predecessor. The Bush Justice Dept fired those eight because they would not take political orders from the republican hate machine. A number of them have said they got calls from politicians trying to tell them whom to prosecute. The eight US Attorneys refused to knuckle under to political interference in lawful prosecutions. Thus, they are ethical people. Honesty, ethics, morals, decency and competence are unwanted in Bush World.
By getalife
March 12, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
No, he is a w w-hore.
Kiley from Walter Reed is history.
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Magneto is right everyone. I have been masquerading as @@. I feel the only way to express how sorry I am for deceiving all of you is to take a page from the liberal’s book and suck up to black people. So here goes:
Jive turkey motherf*cker!!!!
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Hey Lying Andy (the BedWetter),
Please footnote any post that blamed the shrub for raising airport taxes…or prove to everyone once again that you are just a big fat liar.
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
GET ON THE GOOD FOOT, GOOD GOD!!!
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 12:41 PM The eight US Attorneys refused to knuckle under to political interference in lawful prosecutions.
So the 93 that Clinton brought on board were all Republicans, right?
(Are some things just too easy to see when you’re a stark raving hack partisan pinko?)
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By getalife
March 12, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Andy,
You do not blame w for anything.
Where does the buck stop again?
By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
SAY BLOOD! GIMME FIVE! YO MAMA! GET DOWN!
By getalife
March 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Andy,
Just write “Clinton” on all your posts, we know the drill.
w w-hore.
Geez.
By Goldie
March 12, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this
The rightwing freaks who have taken over Washington since the year 2000 are the reason the Repugs are doomed in the ‘08 election. Unless some “true conservative” steps to the plate and runs against the entirety of the Bush Doctrine, America is not going to take any more chances with the Repugnant Party in the White House.
And you Bush-kisser-cheerleaders will be a minor footnote in America’s history… sad story really. It’s about to make me cry flea-sized tears.
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
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Elementary - My Dear Watson-Dull
Valerie Plame was outed and her {personal career destroyed} for Political Gain. She is an individual that was wronged personally and put at risk along with other individuals in the CIA. Again this was was a case of security being violated for political reasons.
The story of the CIA bases (although their locations should have remained secret IMHO), was an outing of a {Policy and System} that has serious consequences for our country and it’s freedoms. It is a policy of a secrecy network and Modus Operandi’ that goes against the very framework of this nations Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is without proper oversite. In short, this wasn’t a political outing as in Valorie Plame, but a whistleblower situation!
Now tell me - Why are you so naive’ to your own Bill of Rights and Freedoms? -
Or do you want a despot government?
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By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
gitmo: I do not blame Bush for EVERYTHING, like you pinkos do.
If your diaper rash wasn’t healed in a day or two I bet you whine about Bush doing it.
I, on the other hand, feel as though he has made a mistake by not bombing Iran yet.
There might be a few other things.
But taxes at the airport??
WTF?
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By Lord Doom
March 12, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Magneto,
Even though you are liberal pig, that is still good detective work. Doom doesn’t have a problem with Buy Danish,but I did suspect she was using more than one ID. Doom still isn’t totally convinced however, at least not as convinced as I am about Goldie and Midori. I know they are the same person.
By Joke of the Day
March 12, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
Anne Coulter wanted to show her support for the troops, so she went to Iraq, ventured outside the Green Zone and roughed it on the front lines with the brave men and women who do the dirty work of our cowardly and stupid politicians.
Upon her return, she rushed to see her significant other, who was busy at her desk, scribbling out some more scurrilous venom about spineless and naive lefties.
“I’m back from the front!” Anne Coulter gushed, “Do you notice anything different about me?” Her partner looked up at her. “Hmm,” she said, “Did you get your hair cut?” “No!” a frustrated Annie said. “You’ve got new glasses?” “No,” fumed Annie, “Look again.” Her lover stared and stared. “I know! You’re wearing different make-up.” Annie stamped her foot. “I’m wearing a GAS MASK!”
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
Good grief! It is against the law to obstruct justice by interfering in the work of a US Attorney. Sen Domenici has hired an attorney. When he called US Attorney Iglesias he may have broken the law. Hello?
By Buy Danish (the First)
March 12, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
A Fair Tax would replace the income tax, so you analogy is flat out wrong.
Did you drink too much Marlstone last night? I know that Libs love to complain about everything, but the fact that you are outraged over this Airport tax issue is even more deranged than usual.
What do you think of this?
Or this? A 14% tax will be added onto your hotel or motel bill within the city of Atlanta and Fulton County (7% sales tax plus 7% room tax)
Do you think it’s unfair to have to pay an occupancy tax when you use an Atlanta hotel room? Afterall, you don’t live in Atlanta and can’t vote there.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 12, 2007 12:56 PM Valerie Plame was outed and her {personal career destroyed}
Uh-huh, destroyed:
Plame reaches 7-figure book deal - Politics - MSNBC.com-http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12653226/
Wanna bet she wasn’t knocking down 7 figures at the CIA?
The story of the CIA bases (although their locations should have remained secret IMHO), was an outing of a {Policy and System} that has serious consequences for our country and it’s freedoms.
Oh, my broken heart, a suicide bomber locked up in a secret prison, sniff, sniff.
One of the last pinkos in charge of government during a war locked up ALL of the Japanese people living in America.
Bush is a sweetheart compared to FDR.
Unfortunately.
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By Buy Danish (the real deal)
March 12, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
NEVER RUN, NEVER BE IN FRIGHT, BECAUSE YOU ARE FACING KID DYNOMIIITE!!!
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 1:04 PM Good grief! It is against the law to obstruct justice by interfering in the work of a US Attorney. Sen Domenici has hired an attorney.
So what? All that proves is that the 93 Conservatives that Clinton fired understood that AG’s serve at the convenience of the president and they went quietly, while these 8 pinkos do what pinkos do best; threw a big crying jag.
Sniff, sniff, Danny.
You and your poor little AG.
Waaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!
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By Buy Danish (the First)
March 12, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
You people are certifiably nuts.
Doomster,
If I use more than one id it is only a variation of “Buy Danish” because idiot libs keep nickjacking my name.
You on the other hand could very well be the raging racist who is jacking my name.
By Truthsayer
March 12, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
Daniel - at least you admit that the Democrats did it as well. Now you also have to admit that there is not Tenure of Office Act and that ANY presidential appointee can be removed at the pleasure of the President. Only other elected officials and members of the judiciary are exempt. The only other “elected” official in the executive branch is the Vice President. A presidential appointee can’t be “wrongfull” removed by the president.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
I Ate One Too Many Danishes:
Yes, I do object to paying the hotel taxes (in all states). The state of Florida has no state income tax and low auto and real estate taxes because tourists subsidize the Florida economy thru taxes specifically targeting their tourist dollars. That is why there will never be a simple flat (fair) tax that eliminates all other forms of taxation. There are too many people like you who would rather suck taxes from others.
By Magneto
March 12, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish the real deal, the first, or whatever,
These endless race based blogs you are posting are not necessary. All you had to do was admit that you double as @@.
You don’t have to kiss up to me or anyone else.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Andy: Was that you who spoke to me the other night at that hotel? An enormnous fat guy with a black tee-shirt? On the back it said: “Peace through superior firepower”. When I asked if you were a vet, you said: “I got busted out of basic with a Section 8”. Fess up. It was you, wasn’t it?
By Lord Doom
March 12, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Why are you always picking on me? Doom didn’t say that you were using multi IDs, I just said I suspected it. If your not, fine. It looks to me like you have other fish to fry here, so you might want to focus your attention on Magneto.
By Buy Danish (the First)
March 12, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Numbnuts N-GA,
What a freaking crybaby. I don’t live in Clayton County so I’m not “sucking taxes from anybody”. I don’t own a business. All I do is PAY taxes.
There are a lot of low income people and minorities in Clayton County though. You’d think you libs would be interested in helping out their tax base.
In 2002, the per capita personal income in Clayton County was $21,585. This was an increase of 13.8% from 1997. The 2002 figure was 70% of the national per capita income, which was $30,906.
By Truthsayer
March 12, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
N-GA - you just destroyed your own argument. A “consumption” or “fair” tax is exactly what the sales tax is! If you don’t want to pay it, the don’t buy anything or take a vacation someplace else, or, better yet, stay home!
By Buy Danish
March 12, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Doomster,
I have responded to Magneto over at Wootens. I have tried twice now to get an updated version of that comment to post to no avail.
I am going to try one more time in a minute.
Please spare me the hurt feelings. You’re as phony as a two dollar bill.
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
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Daniel -
I picture Andy to be more like Archie Bunker from all in the family!
“It’s them communist and perverts that are destroying this country you know! What with their peace rallys and such..”
(grins)
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By Magneto
March 12, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
Gen Kiley finally resigned as Surgeon General of the Army. Buy Danish should take a hint from him.
By Buy Danish
March 12, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
Mindnumbingly Moronic Magneto,
Someone is nickjacking my name and making those racist comments.
I already responded to your laughable charge that I am @@ over at Wootens, a charge which indicates that you have a tin ear for style and content.
Do you really want to be smacked down again? I’m happy to oblige -
By Buy Danish (the real deal)March 10, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this. Magnento, I missed some of your more amusing conspiracy theories. Gawd you’re an idiot. You think the fact that two people post at the same time means they are the same person?
{{{Uh, I think the odds are it means that exactly the opposite it true. Why don’t you try to post as two different people at exactly the same time and see what happens?}}}
{{{Before you pull off this magic trick, let us know that you’re planning on doing it and tell us what two names you are going to use.}}}
I recommend “Harry Houdini” and “Doug Henning”.To make it fair, you have to use one IP address since that’s all I have. No cheating now! Okey dokey
By Buy Danish
March 12, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
Mindnumbingly Moronic Magneto,
Someone is nickjacking my name and making those racist comments.
I already responded to your laughable charge that I am @@ over at Wootens, a charge which indicates that you have a tin ear for style and content.
Do you really want to be smacked down again? I’m happy to oblige -
By Buy Danish (the real deal)March 10, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this. Magnento, I missed some of your more amusing conspiracy theories. Gawd you’re an idiot. You think the fact that two people post at the same time means they are the same person?
{{{Uh, I think the odds are it means that exactly the opposite it true. Why don’t you try to post as two different people at exactly the same time and see what happens?}}}
{{{Before you pull off this magic trick, let us know that you’re planning on doing it and tell us what two names you are going to use.}}}
{{{I recommend “Harry Houdini” and “Doug Henning”.To make it fair, you have to use one IP address since that’s all I have. No cheating now! Okey dokey?}}}
I apologize if this posts more than once^^^^
By Lord Doom
March 12, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
B*tch Danish,
All right have it your way. At least Doom has enough of a life to not have spend day in and day out arguing with a bunch of stangers. I hope the germs being created from you sitting on your a$$ at a computer all day eat you alive!!!
Die you elderly virus!!!
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
“Truthsayer”:
You asserting that I have destroyed my own argument does not make it so. That is the way that the Neo-cons argue, lacking facts or any other defensible position.
Are you another wing-nut hypocrite who thinks that the shrub did the right thing by lowering the FIT for the wealthiest Americans, but it is okay that the Clayton Commissioners should raise retail sales taxes only for purchases made at the airport? I thought you would say yes.
By Magneto
March 12, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this
Bi Danish,
And I told you that I would be here to confront you this week. Take your best shot cockroach! You are the one that has multiple personalities!
By Buy Danish
March 12, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Deranged Doomster,
You are a racist. You make vulgar, sexual innuendos. You accuse me of nickjacking. What do you want me to do? Pat you on the back because you pretend to be a conservative?
Tin Hat Parrot chorus -
I’m running out. If anything posts in my name it is not me, unless it is a repeat of an earlier post that was getting lost in the blogosphere.
By Lord Doom
March 12, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
B*tch Danish,
Whatever my views are, unless I impose them on you, mind your own f*cking business! Doom has tried to be nice to you(in my own unique way) and you continue to blast me.
F*ck you!!!!
What do I want you to do? If you can’t say anything nice then don’t say anything! In other words, take your geritol, put your teeth back in and leave me the hell alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
GOOD NEWS!
Army Surgeon General Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley — the former commander of Walter Reed Army Medical Center — has submitted a letter of retirement effective immediately.
By Magneto
March 12, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Goodbye Bi Danish! Have a nice day.
By Old History Teacher
March 12, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Luckodull and Old FuddyDuddy: Let’s see, now…um, Chamberlain’s speech was in August 1938, right? Test Question: Why was this reprehensible, and what did Germany do to cause this to be reprehensible? Ans: 1934 Hitler came to power; 1936 German troops invade the Rhineland and annex the country; 1937 Hitler tells his closest aids he will invade and conquer France and Great Britain; and in 1938 Hitler invades Austria.
So what was reprehensible was that Hitler had ALREADY INVADED and defeated 2 countries and had rounded up thousands of Jews and put them in Concentration camps (and killed non-combatants). He had also admitted that he planned to invade and conquer two more neighbors, and Chamberlain ignored those facts. This has nothing to do with IRAQ. Sadaam was virtually powerless, BUT HE HAD TRIED TO KILL “W’S” DADDY. So I guess that’s what you’re really talking about.
PS: you guys failed History in high school, didn’t you?
By getalife
March 12, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
“As the military scrambles to pour more soldiers into Iraq, a unit of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Benning, Ga., is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.”
Geez, they will take at this point.
Come on wingnuts, help them out.
Geez.
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
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Speaking of Traitors!
Hell-iburton is moving theor headquarters to Dubai’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17577926/
Typical case of Big Business taking the money and running!
I hope the USA government forbids them any future No-Bid contracts!
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By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
SO NOW WE CAN GO ON TO THE FORGED DOCUMENTS…
THE ITALIAN LETTERS…
Monday, March 12, 2007 Administration Oversight Waxman Renews Niger Queries Chairman Waxman asks Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to respond to a series of unanswered letters, including two letters raising questions about the President’s claim that Iraq sought uranium from Niger.
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Old History Teacher - you are the reason why we don’t need tenure. You obviously don’t know what you are talking about. You are one of those history teachers who kept apologizing for the Soviets during the Cold War. I lived during that era, so I don’t have to study it. Furthermore, Saddam was developing nuclear weapons during he early 1980s and his plant was bombed by the Israelis. He did use chemical weapons on his own people. Even the Clinton administration was convinced he still had them. And I was not talking about Saddam, young feller, I was talking about all of the militant Islamic groups who want to destroy us and make no bones about it - just like Hitler. The person of whom I was (and am) thinking is the current nutso President of the Islamic Repubic of Iran - Ahmadenijab. Forgive me if I misspelled the lunatic’s name! Currently people on both sides are saying: talk with him. We can reason with him. We must try. It sounds all too familiar to me!
By Midori
March 12, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Old Fuddy,
you sound just like a Fox News “Report”.
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
Midori - you sound like Al-Jezeera, CNN Internationa, BBC and NPR all rolled into one little pink, fluffy ball. I know, because I read/listen to/watch all of them to get all perspectives!
By Midori
March 12, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Why thank you, Fuddy.
I especially like the pink, fluffy ball part.
How did you know I wore pink today?
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
I take it back Midori - you folks actually sound more like “Alice in Wonderland”.
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
I take it back Midori - you folks actually sound more like “Alice in Wonderland”.
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Midori - I always figure anyone who loves Hillery wears pink in honor of her and her mentor - KM!
By RE
March 12, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
OFD,
Do you think events just happen without cause?
Ahmadainajad was ELECTED president in IRAN. This happened shortly after our invasion of Iraq, after Bush’s famous Axis of evil speech. You remember, the one where he named N Korea, Iran and Iraq as an axis of evil. Then invaded Iraq as a “pre-emptive war”
How did N Korea and Iran respond? N Korea dumped the regulations on it’s nuke program and detonated a nuke last year. Iran elected a radical man as president who promised to stand up the US agression.
The best way to safety in the middle east is to be a nuclear power. Pakistan is safe because it has nuclear weapons, and is now called our ally in the region. The same country of AQ Kahn, the guy who was selling nuke technology to any regime that would pay. AQ Kahn is living a comfortable life in Pakistan and is treated as a national hero. Pakistan is also one of the few governments to support the taleban in afghanistan and harbors Al Queda.
Things don’t just happen, they are caused. Look to the causes and you can fix the problems.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Tsk, Tsk, Fuddy,
now you just sound stupid.
As far as Alice in Wonderland: How did you know I was reading wing nut blogs as well?
You’re just a marvel, you are!!
By mike
March 12, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Likewise Truthsayer. For those who have a problem with Clayton County’s sales tax, go somewhere else and you wont have to pay it. If the county government can legally establish it then what is your problem. Maybe you can drive to B-ham or Macon to use those airports. That way you can really show others your objections to paying that 1 percent sales tax.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
By Old History Teacher March 12, 2007 1:49 PM So what was reprehensible was that Hitler had ALREADY INVADED and defeated 2 countries and had rounded up thousands of Jews and put them in Concentration camps
So Chamberlin had justification to fight Hitler but he still punked out, just like a real lib would do.
Great point, dullard.
And your litany of crimes committed by Hitler sounds alot like the list Saddam had compiled…. before Bush took him out and stopped his murdering.
Thanks for your help, teach.
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By N-GA
March 12, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
Now I understand what ML was trying to say in this toon…wing-nuts have their lids on too tight, and their brains are encased in concrete…and buried (like the proverbial ostrich).
Too funny!!!!
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
Using the excuse that Ahmadenijab was “elected” is about as convincing as Castro saying he has the approval of the Cuban people and doesn’t need to hold a free election. That regime is no more democratic than Saudi Arabia. He is a mouth piece for the theocrats (Ayatollahs) running the place. Such a facile and silly argument really does not even merit any reply except - WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN??????
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
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Fuddy -
I got your Alice!
http://www.aaronlogan.com/blog/05/10/20/teaparty.jpg
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By RE
March 12, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
OFD,
Do you think events just happen without cause?
Ahmadainajad was ELECTED president in IRAN. This happened shortly after our invasion of Iraq, after Bush’s famous Axis of evil speech. You remember, the one where he named N Korea, Iran and Iraq as an axis of evil. Then invaded Iraq as a “pre-emptive war”
How did N Korea and Iran respond? N Korea dumped the regulations on it’s nuke program and detonated a nuke last year. Iran elected a radical man as president who promised to stand up the US agression.
The best way to safety in the middle east is to be a nuclear power. Pakistan is safe because it has nuclear weapons, and is now called our ally in the region. The same country of AQ Kahn, the guy who was selling nuke technology to any regime that would pay. AQ Kahn is living a comfortable life in Pakistan and is treated as a national hero. Pakistan is also one of the few governments to support the taleban in afghanistan and harbors Al Queda.
Things don’t just happen, they are caused. Look to the causes and you can fix the problems.
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
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Fuddy -
Lets try another link to same photo
Here’s Alice!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j199/tokenblackdoug/madteaparty7005009dmke5.jpg
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By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this
News that you won’t find in any pinko paper:
The deficit for the first five months of the budget year is down sharply from a year ago as the growth in government tax collections continues to outpace growth in spending. The Treasury Department reported that the deficit from October through February totaled $162.2 billion, down 25.5 percent from the same period last year.
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By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
RE - as for N.Korea, you can thank Clinton and ole Jimmy Carter for that mess. And as for Pakistan having nuclear weapons, it certainly doesn’t make ME feel safe. Using the argument that nukes are a determent is fine as long as sane people have their fingers on the buttons. No one is saying that any of the Persian leaders are sane. The President says that he wants to whipe Israel off the map and refers to the United States (regardless of leader) as the Great Satan and wants to destroy any group (including other Muslims) with whom they do not believe.
And back to Pakistan - Just imagine if the leadership changes from the current “moderate” to the radicals that the “people” favor? None of your arguments hold up.
By RE
March 12, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this
Sorry about the double post.
OFD, seeing how you think ahdmadinijad is a mouthpiece for the theocrats and that Iran’s democracy is meaningless, why did they have a reformer like Khatami prior to the current president?
You make no sence
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
RE - Your argument again is just a silly as those made by Chamberlain and company. They looked at the causes and tried to remedy them with what you want now - appeasement. Germany (wrongly) felt wronged by the peace after WWI. They started it, so they had to pay for it. Chamblerlain, Daladier et.al.wanted to appease him because they wanted to avoid war at all costs. All they got was more than anyone on Earth has ever bargained for. We will get it again with your type of dangerous and naive policies. Read a book!
By getalife
March 12, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
[There is no place like home](http://www.themoneyalert.com/sitebuilder/images/ReverseMortgage-341x280.jpg
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
RE - Khatami was a reformer in your dreams. Notice he is also nowhere to be found. It is increasingly clear that you are going out of your way to be an apologist for a regime which as preached for the destruction of all of Western Christian and non-Muslim civilization since its inception. You are in real need of a reality check!
By getalife
March 12, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
There is no place like home
Geez.
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
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Fuddy Duddy -
Your argument that Carter/Clinton was responsible for events in North Korea holds no water. This has been discussed in-depth here before. The whole issue of the light water reactors etc.
Dubya’ and Co’ screwed that one up by going hardline with NK and cancelling the agreements! — So NK re-started their heavy water reactor and re-started their plutonium refining plant.
This finally ended with teh actual detonation of a nuke by NK’
And now Bush/Co is re-installing close to the exact same agreements as the ones that Carter/Clinton created originally, but the Bubba Dunya’ is doing so after a nuke has been detonated. In other words - Too late -as the Genie is already out of the bottle.
Had Bush been diplomatic with NK, and kept the original agreements intact and in place, then that nuke would have never been built!
Thomas/PNAC
By Walt
March 12, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
“RE - Your argument again is just a silly as those made by Chamberlain and company. They looked at the causes and tried to remedy them with what you want now - appeasement. Germany (wrongly) felt wronged by the peace after WWI.”
Churchill referred to Hitler as a “monstrous product of former wrongs and shame.”
He meant the Treaty of Versaillles.
Germany -was- wronged the settlement of the war.
Can’t expect you to do too well in current events when you don’t know the history.
Walt
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
People for a Nuked….. Please get a reality check. The reason the agreement failed was that the North Koreans started violating from the very beginning. They never had any intention of keeping it, just like the Munich aggreements. You appeasers never learn. It’s the definition of insanity - trying something you know doesn’t work over and over again. You do that with Socialism too.
By RE
March 12, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
I have read, and the funny thing is that after a war, the underlying causes are addressed and remedied. After WWII we did not make Germany and Japan pay for reperation. Instead in Germany the debt they had to pay from the WWI armistace was erased. In Japan the embargo on natural resources was lifted. I do not know what would have happened if these actions were taken prior to 5 years of war, but both Germany and Japan did have the underlying cause of the conflict relieved.
Same with this war, Bin LAden has stated one of the primary complaints against the US was the basing of troops in Saudi Arabia. So we closed prince sultan airbase. He got what he wanted.
Pakistan does not make me feel safe either. But we have shown, through our own foriegn policy actions that the best way to be safe from US military action is to be a nuclear power. Pakistan is not our ally because they like the US, it is a military dictatorship, it is pretty far down on the humans rights end of it, and activlt supported terrorists and spread nuclear technology. This should make pakistan an enemy. But because it is a nuclear power, it is now an ally.
By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!
March 12, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
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Fuddy Duddy -
I have no love for Kim’Kong’ and I certainly don’t trust that lunatic despot - and true NK had violated the treaty by continuing to research nuclear technology.
But the physical Nuclear material (and reactor) was under lock and key (and UN Camera and Monitoring) right up until the time Dubya’ decided to stop oil shipments to them in retal for their secret research.
I wish Dubya had taken a diplomatic course and publicly chastised (denounced) them for their secret research (in which case we would have looked like the heroes too!).
Bu instead he pushed them into a corner and they restarted the reactor, and took the seals off and started making real bombs not those laboratory theoretical researched bombs.
So how you get off blaming Clinton/Carter from avoiding a full scale war in the past with NK in the first place by Carter using diplomacy, I’ll never understand. Unless you just happen to love wars! Or love the Bomb!`
Are you and Doctor Strangelove related?
Thomas/PNAC
(Time to go home and get ready to watch our man Jack Bauer’ stopping them NeoCons from destroying the world)
By Walt
March 12, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
OFD Sends:
“People for a Nuked….. Please get a reality check. The reason the agreement failed was that the North Koreans started violating from the very beginning. They never had any intention of keeping it, just like the Munich aggreements.”
My goodness gracious. There is no congruity at all.
If France and Britain had stood with Czechoslovakia, Hitler could have been stopped cold.
In fact, his generals later swore they were ready to roll on plans to depose him had Chamberlain and the Frogs held fast.
But we -never- had a good military plan to deal with Korea. Negotiating was our best option.
You probably think FDR sold us out at Malta.
Walt
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
[FOX NEWS, Crazy Right Wing Propaganda”: A trip down memory lane(http://noquarter.typepad.com/myweblog/2007/03/foxnewscrazy.html)
By Blackadder
March 12, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
Repaired the link - sorry.
FOX NEWS, Crazy Right Wing Propaganda”: A trip down memory lane
By Goldie
March 12, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
{{the definition of insanity - trying something you know doesn’t work over and over again.}}
Fuddy— so we must be in agreement that it’s insanity to try to install a democracy by gunpoint. Didn’t work in Viet Nam for us, hmmm?
Pure insanity, what your guy Bush has done to America and Iraq! You need to preach to him about history lessons because he obviously is clueless!
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
This blog sounds like something out of Saturday night live.
N-GA interprets ml’s cartoon as something to do with the brains of conservatives. OOhhhh..Did you not know that ml is trying to say that the government (Bush, of course)is trying to hide documents from everybody. This is just another liberal line on the list of fiction on how to make America’s president look really bad.
Other liberals are blaming everything from Saddams terror tactics, N.Korea’s dictatorial wmd problems, Iran’s president & wmd, Osama’s birthplace, Chamberlain and the rain in Spain on George W. Bush. It goes from the bizarre to the rediculous.
If this crowd is serious, we are in big trouble. Yes, Alice, and you and tweedle dee and tweedle dum too.
By N-GA
March 12, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Dusty…someone should help you recognize sarcasm. I posted much earlier on the actual topic…did you intentially ignore the earlier post so that you could snark at the later post?
By getalife
March 12, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Geez, now the wingnuts are spinning history to appease the convicted felon, hate party.
Impeach these failures.
There is a dark cloud, spewing bolts of evil, over the White House.
When will this storm pass?
Geez.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
((((This blog sounds like something out of Saturday night live.))))
what part are you playing, Dusty?
one of the Killer Bees?
{{{buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz}}} off.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
The storm will pass in 2008.
By Goldie
March 12, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
Blackadder— great link @ 3:54!
By RE
March 12, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
you know, maybe Fox news really is fair and balanced, they just have a partisan rightwinger writing the scrolls on the bottom of the screen.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
Mayan priests will clense a religious site in Guetamala. Bush had visited there and they said it needed to be: “Clensed of evil spirits”.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
now if we could just get them to cleanse this blog :)
By Walt
March 12, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
We should impeach Bush and Cheney and get them in prison to serve justice certainly, but it would also help restore the honor of the nation and the Flag if we do so.
Walt
By IN THE NEWS
March 12, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
[Last week I heard from Hill sources] that the White House congressional liason staff was pressuring OMB Director Rob Portman to not release all of the earmarks requested by Members of Congress to executive agencies under the FY2005 budget. …
Now this morning, word is circulating on the Hill that the Bush administration is going to release only a limited database of earmarks later today or maybe no database at all, but just aggregate or summary data.
Seems the White House legislative staff fears releasing the database would offend members of the appropriation committees in Congress. So, the public gets the shaft, again, on a topic on which there is no doubt where the American people stand.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
MIdori: A number of the right-wing nut jobs here have more than one identity. I am certain Andy uses at least three names, while BD has been outed with two. What is it with multiple personalities?
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
No Midori-Alice and N-GA
I usually only watch the comedy here. It is so hard to tell the serious from the simple as liberals all sound alike.
Luckovich gives his marching orders and the crowd falls in behind in unison. Originality is rare and pride in our nationality is even rarer.
But,hey,we’ve got freedom of speech and we can use it like we want to.
All together now, libs, “Bush sucks!” The Party will be proud of you.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
they are the party of Sybil :)
and Dusty - he doesn’t suck as much as your endless hand wringing, constant “tsk tsks”, and overall hypocrisy.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Daniel,
they are the party of Sybil :)
and Dusty - he doesn’t suck as much as your endless hand wringing, constant “tsk tsks”, and overall hypocrisy.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 4:41 PM Mayan priests will clense a religious site in Guetamala. Bush had visited there and they said it needed to be: “Clensed of evil spirits”.
Huh.
I didn’t think there were any “Guetamalans” left in Guatemala.
I thought they were all here in the “dirty” USA getting rich off the Bush tax cuts.
And sending it all back to the ignorant shaymen that were still in “Guetamala.”
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By Daniel
March 12, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
Waly: That’s why lying to the FBI and Obstruction of Justice are crimes. Libby lied to shield Cheney. Without the Libby lies Fitzgerald would be going after Cheney. Perjury is a very serious crime.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
According to Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman, hearings for Abu Faraj al-Libi and Ramzi Binalshibh were Friday, and a hearing for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was Saturday. He said another hearing at the U.S. Navy base in southeast Cuba was scheduled for Monday.-http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258318,00.html
You watch, tomorrow the candy as-sed pinkos will be all weepy about this, babbling on and on about the horrors that were inflicted upon these suicide bombing scumbags.
The libs are too stupid, too mentally incompetent to remember that it was their idea to use the courts to fight terrorism.
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By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
Party’s over:
NY TIMES PLANS TUESDAY HIT ON GORE, NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE: ‘Scientists argue that Gore’s warnings are full of exaggerated claims and startling errors’…-http://www.drudgereport.com/
Even the Treason Times can’t keep up the lies.
This goose is cooked and it wasn’t by “global warming.” ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
Treason is defined in the US Constitution as: “Making war on the US…” Your use of it here is incorrect. But understandable, since the VP misusses it regularly. He thinks its treason to disagree with him. Sad. Kepp up the bad work. It helps America to see what you are. Take heart: Webb clobbered Allen in Virginia! It can only get better.
By Old Fuddy Duddy
March 12, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
Goldie - you must have gotten my point because you are obfuscating. We have not tried to impose democracy at the point of a gun. The Islamofascists have tried to stop it at the point of a gun. And in Vietnam, where two of my nephews served, it was the Communists who imposed their will at the end of gun. There has never been a free and fair election in the united post-colonial Vietnam. You must not have been around then to remember what was happenind and how the libs just abandoned the South despite our vow not to do so after the Treaty of Paris was signed. Appease and surrender is all you people know!
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
Oh,”tsk tsk” Midori,
You didn’t have to tell me twice. Who is Sybil? Your alter ego?
Sorry you don’t like my posts. I’m just all torn up over that. The nick-jackers are providing some really strange ones. They might suit you better.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
By Old Fuddy Duddy March 12, 2007 5:57 PM There has never been a free and fair election in the united post-colonial Vietnam. You must not have been around then to remember what was happenind and how the libs just abandoned the South despite our vow not to do so after the Treaty of Paris was signed.
Not only that, there’s this too:
Vietnam is a source and destination country for men, women, and children trafficked for the purposes of sexual exploitation and forced labor. Vietnamese women and girls are trafficked to Cambodia, the P.R.C., Hong Kong, Macau, Malaysia, Taiwan, and the Czech Republic for sexual exploitation. State-owned labor export companies recruit and send workers abroad; some of these laborers have been known to suffer conditions of involuntary servitude or bonded or forced labor.-http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Vietnam.htm
I remember some pinkos not too long ago that said Vietnam was a better country under the communists.
Better to a lib maybe.
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By getalife
March 12, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
Max to cheney on CNN:
“Where the hell were you during Vietnam?
If you were there, you might have a clue about war.”
Smack down Max!
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 5:56 PM Treason is defined in the US Constitution as: “Making war on the US…” Your use of it here is incorrect. But understandable, since the VP misusses it regularly. He thinks its treason to disagree with him.
Why must you lie Danielle, are your ideas that f’ed up?
Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.-http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleiii.html
Hell, by this definition, the real definition, you’re a traitor.
Any last statement?
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By Midori
March 12, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
Crusty,
why don’t you look it up yourself, being the Gawd-fearing, flag-waving, b.s. dispensing, ‘troofseeker’ you claim to be?
shouldn’t be ‘THAT’ hard for you to do, should it?
p.s. - you should expect these type responses when you thrust your hypocritical nose into other’s conversations.
I believe I was talking to Daniel when I made that observation.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
No, actually, you’re wrong again. Levying war is the same as making war. Giving aid and comfort has been interpreted in a material sense. And adhering to their enemies means going over to their side. Free speech is free speech. Bush and Cheney are not the sovereign. Thinking Bush a bungler does not a traitor make.
By Midori
March 12, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
BTW, Crusty - your ‘posts’ are not the only things I don’t like.
And please, Crusty the Clown, don’t even try that ‘concern’ about double posts.
It happens to everyone.
You wingnuts dig so very hard and deep to find something to gripe about.
Get a f*cking life.
By Daniel
March 12, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
Plus, if you think anyone is treasonous file a Complaint against them. File the Complaint! Send it to the US Attorney. Oooops, they just fired the guy. Hold on on that. File the Complaint in the US District Court. You will make a bigger fool of yourself than you are in fact. If that is possible. Who appointed you judge and jury? Disagreeing with Bush is patriotic and heroic. The Bush thought does not equal America. Bush is not the King. You lose again.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 6:27 PM No, actually, you’re wrong again. Giving aid and comfort
Daniella: What do you think that means, bandaging a suicide bombers wounds and letting him rest his head in your lap?
If you would have screeched in 1776 like you did in 2006, they would have shot your a-ss, no questions asked.
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By One Voice
March 12, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
Looks like I missed a couple of my favorite subjects Friday afternoon- religion and education. I would absolutely love it if Bible courses were taught in high school literature classes. Here are a couple of essay questions I would pose to students:
After reading Deuteronomy 13:6, 8-15, discuss why you think a just and moral god would tell a person to kill a family member if that family member didn’t share the same religious belief. Then explain whether you think this advice is any different from the beliefs of Muslim terrorists, and if so, describe how it is different. Support your answer using logical and relevant examples.
Drawing on Leviticus 24:44-46, Exodus 21:7-11, and Ephesians 6:5 as references, explain how slavery can be considered morally wrong by Christians when the advice from God clearly describes the “right” way to conduct slavery. Does this mean that slavery is right or the word of God is wrong? Support your answer with at least 3 details from the Bible.
Explain how it could be physically possible for Jonah to live in the belly of a fish. If it is possible, tell exactly how he would be able to survive, discussing how he would breath and how he would keep from being dissolved by the digestive juices of the fish. If it is not possible, give your opinion on why the Bible would contain something that is false. Support your answer using logical rationale.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 6:27 PM No, actually, you’re wrong again. Giving aid and comfort
Daniella: What do you think that means, bandaging a suicide bombers wounds and letting him rest his head in your lap?
If you would have screeched in 1776 like you did in 2006, they would have shot your a-ss, no questions asked.
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By Daniel
March 12, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
File the Complaint! I was in conflict. Not you. Your lecture about that which you know so very little is tiresome. File the Complaint! You are not the sovereign. I opposed Bush in 2003. And, no, thinking Bush an idiot does not make one treasonous. If it did 70% of America would be behind bars. We are prevailing, not you. Sorry.
By @@
March 12, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
N-GA:
Like Buy Danish, I’m more than appalled by your lack of compassion for Clayton County’s citizens.
Especially since, Clayton County has been governed by Democrats for over 30 years.
We had one Republican elected to the board in all that time. He put forth some innovative ideas for this county, unfortunately his plans stood in the way of the other four board members; the ones making a fortune on “kick-backs” from developers.
Here’s how it goes down with Democratic leaders in Clayton County N-GA.
Clayton County Chairman w/o the consent of the people, brings C-Tran to Clayton County, while serving as Chairman of the ARC.
Said Chairman doesn’t seek re-election. Moves his family to South Georgia. Maintains residence in Clayton County so he can run his “real-estate” law firm and maintain close contact with his long-time developer buddies.
Developers purchase property along the proposed rail-line. All the time convincing Clayton County residents they’re gonna get the “ride of a lifetime”. The one they never voted for.
Any benefits for the taxpaying citizens? Let’s see…the highest foreclosure rate in the nation. Skyrocketing crime. Unmarketable real estate. Oh…and then there’s the tab on the rail system we never voted for.
Benefits to the corrupt politicians? Millions upon millions in profits from development.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this
By One Voice March 12, 2007 6:35 PM If it is not possible, give your opinion on why the Bible would contain something that is false. Support your answer using logical rationale.
Dic-khead: If you take the Old Testament literally than you have to take the New Testament as, let’s say, God’s Word.
The New Testament voids the laws of the Old Testament because Christ Died for our sins.
What, are you stupid?
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By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
N-GA,
Your 9:04 response not only doesn’t answer my question, it proves that your original point about the AG’s firings was bogus.
Then again I shouldn’t expect much from someone that been obsessing all day over a $0.01 sales tax that doesn’t even cover the whole freaking airport. Why don’t you walk to a Fulton County concourse if you don’t want to pay Clayton county their $0.01?
By One Voice
March 12, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
Here’s another Bible essay question I hope to pose to students next year:
Referring to the story of Noah and the ark, explain how it was possible to get all of the animals on the planet on a single boat. How big would the boat have to be? How would Noah collect these animals, especially the ones on other continents? If only two of each species were collected, how did Noah make sure that none died during the voyage, which would have made that species become extinct? How did they make sure that each could breed, especially without modern veterinary techniques? List all the large or potentially dangerous animals you can think of. Then describe the scenario necessary to house all these animals on a boat. Finally, discuss whether common sense tells us that all these things could happen.
I can’t wait until Bible classes come to public school!
By Dusty
March 12, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
Midori,
Please accept my deepest apology. When you posted “and Dusty”, I thought that you meant me for some reason. Perhaps Daniel is using Dusty now, but I didn’t think so.
I have a life but not the kind you indicated. Thank goodness!! (I still don’t know who Sybil is.)
Now I am going to eat roast chicken, wave some flags and talk “troof” with the family. Wish you were here!!! Cheers!!
By One Voice
March 12, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this
Here are some multiple choice questions I used for Inherit the Wind this year. Andy and Granny should love them:
6) In the play Inherit the Wind, the main conflict is best described as: a) Darwinism versus freedom of thought b) Religion versus Fundamentalism c) Fundamentalism versus freedom of thought d) science versus evolution
7) In the play Inherit the Wind, what was Drummond’s main strategy in getting Brady to break down on the stand? a) to get Brady to point out how many wonderful stories there are in the Bible b) to question him about stories in the Bible and point out how illogical they were c) to get him to say why he thought Darwinism was not the right explanation of creation d) to explain the origins of the universe to the jury
8) In the play Inherit the Wind, we can say that the authors’ message was: a) No matter what anyone says, we must always believe what it says in the Bible and it is wrong to believe otherwise. b) The law of the United States of America is based on the Bible, and so if you go against the Bible you are guilty of breaking the law. c) The most important thing about science is that it can help prove that religion is the true story of how the universe began. d) Science, which can be supported by evidence, cannot be silenced by religion, which cannot be supported by evidence.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 6:40 PM File the Complaint! File the Complaint!
Who do you think I am, Roosevelt?
All I’m saying is that under the Constitutional definition of treason you should have been hung by the neck quiet some time ago for giving aid and comfort to the terrorists.
I doesn’t make it right just because you get away with it.
I have no idea what conflict you may have been in, but if I was in your platoon and heard some of the things you said about America on this blog, I would have busted a cap in your as-s or left you tied to a tree where the enemy could find your terrorist loving a-ss.
Word.
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By One Voice
March 12, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
Andy, you get an “F” for your answer but an “A” for stupidity.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
Dic-khead: Someday you’ll realize how stupid you were for calling your ancestors “monkey.”
Monkey.
I have no idea what it will be like for those who deny their Creator, for those who think they popped out of the TV screen or rode in on a comet, will it be black silence? Fire? Torturous pain?
I know I’m dam-n sure not going to find out.
Call me stupid if you will.
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By Daniel
March 12, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this
No you wouldn’t. You’re just a fat guy who sits in front of a computer day and night. Now, you’re tense. You’re losing ground. America is on to you. The truth cannot be treasonous. Besides, you’re fake. You are a pretend guy. Push your fat belly away from the box. Put down the coke. Go work-out. Eat some health food.
By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be a kick if OV got fired for spending so much time violating the supposed separation of Church and State?
Here’s one for you OV, what was the destination of this voyage of yours that Noah made in his ark? Didn’t he supposedly just ride out the flood?
Bonus question, why would he need all these different species if various species are constantly turning into other ones anyway?
If it happens again you can take Blowhard and a couple of lizards in your dingy and life on earth will be safe and sound. Although you probably should make sure one of those lizards is female.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this
By Daniel March 12, 2007 7:03 PM No you wouldn’t. You’re just a fat guy who sits in front of a computer day and night. Now, you’re tense. You’re losing ground. America is on to you. The truth cannot be treasonous.
Enemy propaganda is the truth?
They’re listening to you Daniella, Al Qaeda is paying attention to everything shriek you make, every wail you take, they been watching you. They know that if they can hold on long enough, you candy as-s liberals will drive America off of the battle field, so they try harder, and by trying harder they kill more American soldiers and more innocent Iraqi’s.
That blood is on your hands, no matter how much time you spend in the gym, no matter how far you have your head up your own a-ss, no matter how much you think you know about what’s right or what’s wrong.
Those kids died because of your mouth.
You weren’t no soldier.
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By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this
Cut and run!:
WASHINGTON - Top House Democrats retreated Monday from an attempt to limit President Bush’s authority for taking military action against Iran as the leadership concentrated on a looming confrontation with the White House over the Iraq war.-http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070312/apongoprwh/usiraq26
Spineless, spineless, spineless.
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By One Voice
March 12, 2007 8:35 PM | Link to this
Submonkey,
Oh no, don’t scare me with threats of black silence, fire, or torturous pain in the afterlife! Are you 12 years old? Next you’ll be threatening me with the idea that Santa Claus isn’t going to bring me anything this year. Idiot.
And you have no business insulting Daniel, someone who has actually served. You’re too much of a wuss to put your sorry as-s on the line for anything, but you’re gung ho to send other people to die. You truly fashion yourself after GWOL and Deferment Dick. Spineless, spineless, spineless can only be used to describe the person hammering away on your keyboard.
rw,
Still not too bright, are you? So using a book straight out of the bookroom and then discussing the plot and theme is a violation of church and state? Or are you trying to say that the correct answers to those questions were not an accurate representation of the authors’ message in Inherit the Wind? Or do you not know what the correct answers to the questions are? I would say that the answers to those questions were exactly what the authors were trying to communicate. You should know that I would not be nearly as gentle with my own assessment. Dolt.
And where’s Granny? Is she not going to appear tonight to tell us how smart she was when she was 13 because she’s got a high school acceptance letter from 1974 to prove it? Or will she possibly quote from the most sophisticated literature she’s familiar with, the classics of Reverend W. Awdry?
By Buy Danish
March 12, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
RW,
Isn’t it amazing how the millionaire N-GA managed to become enraged over a .01 cent tax at an airport?
How much time do you think he spends there and what does he buy? Maybe he takes his “dates” there to watch the planes take off and then brings them to T.G.I.F. for beef tips. That extra penny could really crimp his style.
Moving along, your response to OV was one of the greatest smack downs of all time.
I thought this was very revealing too:
{{{By One Voice
March 12, 2007 6:44 PM |
How did they make sure that each could breed, especially without modern veterinary techniques?}}}
Clearly his “family”, if it exists at all outside of his bizarro fantasy world, was created in a Petrie dish.
By LuckoDull
March 12, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this
Dic-khead: O.K. I give up, you were born of the pond scum. Feel better about yourself?
Daniella may have served but it wasn’t in the same army that I did.
At least I can’t remember the part where they said to cheer on our enemies if it helped your political party.
It’s like duty, honor and democrat party for y’all, ain’t it?
You support Al Qaeda and you consign your life to the ground with the worms.
What makes you think I would ever take anything you said seriously?
You’re nothing but a bunch of white noise.
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By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this
Buy Danish,
Or a turkey baster since this weirdo thinks animals never bred before their were modern techniques.
Even if it was created in a petri dish you probably just made it’s head explode by using the word “created.”
OV,
Some people call those “bookrooms” libraries. What kind of “school” do you teach in?
By Buy Danish
March 12, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this
Well speak of the devil!
Sad Sack Stalker Boy,
I don’t have a clue who the Reverend W. Adry is, nor do I care.
Nor do I care what you think about a topic that came up through a conversation with rushncap.
Once again you are playing the Peeping Tom and wanking over a conversation that you were not a party too and that is none of your business.
There is no one on this planet who needs this advice more than you do:
Get a life.
By One Voice
March 12, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this
Granny,
The only smack downs you’re familiar with are the ones your husband gives you for being a worthless hag.
As I’ve noted before, the reason I’m so rarely on this blog is because I actually do have a life, which is just one of the many things that differentiate you and I. I have a real job. You don’t. I’m acquiring a real education. You never did. I spend a good deal of time with my family. You blog. I’ve been trying to tell you that you need a life since 2005, even though you‘ve actually needed one far longer than that.
Btw, you may want to learn the difference between “to” and “too.” It probably would have been a good idea to have jumped on that high school scholarship offer back in the 70’s.
rw,
Don’t tell me you’re not smart enough to distinguish between a bookroom and a library. Did you think the library had 70 copies of Inherit the Wind? It’s not surprising you would be confused, since the content of your posts makes it apparent you’ve never stepped foot inside a library or even a school, much less cracked a book.
sub monkey,
The only army you’ve ever been involved in was when you marched in the transvestite parade, just before you had that feeling of guilt come over you and decided to find “god.” I’m guessing the feeling of guilt wasn’t the only thing that came all over you that night.
What’s truly pathetic is that you don’t even realize that you and your brethren from the ridiculous conservative ideology are the ones who have encouraged and sustained Al Qaeda. If Gore had been president 9/11 probably wouldn’t have happened. If it did we would have gone to Afghanistan and immediately taken out Bin Laden. We never would have gone to Iraq, which has caused greater instability in the Middle East and massive proliferation of terrorists. YOU are the traitor who has helped our enemies. YOU are the person who does the bidding of radical Islamists. Idiot.
By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 10:30 PM | Link to this
OV,
The only life you have is stalking us and practicing your cyber wife beating skills. Maybe you should have a chat with rushncap and he could give you some beating tips. As I recall he uses a different tool. I can never figure out which of you is the bigger loser, but I guess it’s you tonight.
If you get to teach the Bible in your imaginary classroom, what’s going to happen to you when you walk into the bookroom?
Now go empty a few spit buckets and get home to Blowhard.
By One Voice
March 12, 2007 11:03 PM | Link to this
rw,
I never precisely thought of you and Andy as the b!tches I smack around regularly, but I guess it’s a fitting simile.
I do find it amusing how people like you and Granny, who spend such a vast amount of time in cyberspace, consistently admonish others for lacking a real life. Come on, you’ve got your computer, your pet rats, a disaffected wife, your worship of gw, and your 18 hours of blogging daily. Oh and I forgot, you have your best friends Andy and Granny who you’ve never actually met. Sounds like a great life to me… If you are a crusty 52-year-old loser.
Why don’t you go to bed and not have sex with your wife, as usual? Or better yet, pop some Viagra and have one of your male locker room fantasies.
By RW-(the original)
March 12, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this
Gosh OV, last week you had me at 53 in your little fantasy bio. Did I drop a year when the time changed?
Do you find it at all strange that you maintain a make believe profile of other bloggers? What a freaking weirdo you are.
BTW, while you’re stalking me how about checking out when I posted today?
By LuckoDull
March 13, 2007 6:41 AM | Link to this
By One Voice March 12, 2007 10:11 PM What’s truly pathetic is that you don’t even realize that you and your brethren from the ridiculous conservative ideology are the ones who have encouraged and sustained Al Qaeda. If Gore had been president 9/11 probably wouldn’t have happened.
monkey boy: So all of the religion inspired attacks over the years, most notably the ones we didn’t respond to during the Carter and Clinton years, were the fault of religious Conservatives??
I tell you what, monkey boy, if you can’t face up to the basic undeniable truth’s about the Terrorists War Against Us, what does that say about all the other garbage you peddle?
Umm, it’s a crock?
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By Buy Danish
March 13, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this
Falsetto Voice Stalker Boy,
You’re the only person I have ever suggested should “get a life”.
You’re the only one who is living vicariously through others and fantasizing about beating up women - among numerous other sadistic and perverse thoughts you have “shared” with us over the past year.
You are a stone cold deviant.
But hey, since you’ve decided that it’s proper to wildly speculate on our private lives, I’m going to speculate that your “family” are the vermin who live in your attic and the cockroaches that crawl around your kitchen.
That’s assuming of course you even have a home. You could just be living outside in a cardboard box and a shopping cart, with a family of field mice that you torture before devouring for breakfast.