Mike Luckovich

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 8:24 PM | Link to this

Ever wonder why the media never has any good stories about our soldiers and their mission?

Only bad, all day long, every night, nothing but bad?

This week saw the continuation of the media’s crocodile teary investigation into poor patient conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Now the story has morphed into a public airing of every unpleasant anecdote and act of incompetence anyone can identify anywhere in the nation’s huge veterans health care system. Just six months ago, Time magazine ran a feature called, “How Veterans’ Hospitals Became the Best in Health Care.” Today the website features a report on veterans’ care from Time’s sister company, CNN, called, “Iraq Veterans Tell Horror Stories.” That’s quite a reversal of investigative opinion since August, but when there’s a negative story to focus on during a war, sometimes you have to turn the satellite truck on a dime.

Tell me, if you were a soldier would your rather have Bush supporting you or the pinko media falsely accusing you of all kinds of horrific crimes?

Blaming you for atrocities you didn’t commit?

Coming to the aid of your enemy, the throat cutting women and children murdering terrorists?

Splashing news of your brothers deaths all over their front pages like some kind of trophy, using your blood to advance their agenda?

I think we all know the answers.

Why do you think they have to draw the cartoons?

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By Mrs. Godzilla

March 8, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

As a nation we have learned a sad lesson.

We get what we pay for.

Worse still, our men and women in uniform are picking up the check.

Peace.

By mountain man

March 8, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this

Hey Brain Dull, the cartoon isn’t about the troops, which we all agree are going the very best they can under some trying conditions. It’s about our Pretender in Chief, who is ALL SHOW and no substance. Now he’s off to South America in a futile attempt to build a legacy in the waning days of his misadministration. But instaead of cheers he’ll find jeers. The whole world is tired of this low point in American history. I can’t wait until this joker is gone.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

The lesson that we have learned is one that many of us forced to live overseas on civilian jobs have learned - the government, whether run by Democrats (socialists) or Republicans (pseudo-capitalists) is not capable of running a health care system. It is difficult, if not impossible, for huge organizations to police themselves. Ask the average Canadian living on the border why he or she buys private health insurance and comes to the United States for surgery or other major care. The Spanish health care system (personal experience) is an exercise in calousness. Everyone is a bureaucrat who will be paid no matter what and it is almost impossible to fire incompetents. That was the attitude at Walter Reed. Don’t look for the long-term attitude to change. It is still a government program.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull

Good questions. Using soldiers as props impugns a calculated cynicism to Pres Bush. It’s another sound bite that sounds good on the surface but doesn’t bear further scrutiny. Walter Reed’s an example - what happened there was a failure of leadership by the Army - more than the one general fired and the NCOs reassigned - that it was caused by a lack of funds for the Center. But to those who despise Pres Bush (or who make a living by appearing to) it doesn’t really matter.

There was a lot yesterday, if I recall correctly, about Libby not just lying and obstructing but also leaking classified information. Seems one of the jurors was on MSNBC’s Chris Mathews and supports a pardon for him and says he was caught up in the investigation, not caught up in the crime that was supposedly (bold that word) committed.

[Chris: You’re for a pardon out of sympathy for the defendant.

Ann: Yeah, I think in the big picture, um, it kind of bothers me that there was this whole big crime being investigated and he got caught up in the investigation as opposed to in the actual crime that was supposedly committed.

Chris: Which is the leaking of a CIA agents name.

Ann: Exactly.]

Prediction, Lucko: the same people who used the argument (as did I) that Libby was found guilty by a jury so that’s the verdict to accept, will look at this juror’s comment (that Libby wasn’t “caught up in the ACTUAL crime that was SUPPOSEDLY committed” will utter those two famous words: “Yes, but…..”

By N-GA

March 8, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

This toon pretty much says it all about the shrub’s presidency. If not for 9/11, he probably wouldn’t have gotten re-elected. His “legacy” would have relegated him to the dustbin of history.

Instead he chose to invade Iraq. This pseudo-warrior hides behind the sacrifices of REAL American servicemen & women, yet shrouds himself in the flag of conservatism as this country suffers under his misguided leadership.

His real legacy will be that of a warmonger who, like others before him, brought death and destruction to peoples and nations who will long remember the suffering caused by him, the (worst) President of these United States.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

OldFuddyDuddy

The health care debate doesn’t have to be framed in an “either/or” (all gov’t or all private) context. Mitt Romney’s success with health care reform is, to me, likely the singular success in moving towards something that works well for most people.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Exactly— according to Dubya, we must support the Photo Props at all costs!

By Eric

March 8, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

I’d gladly take my chances alone rather than have the “support” of this alleged president, you moron.

By Steven Daedalus

March 8, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Paul, You can make excuses all day long for Bush, but in the end, he is the Commander-in-Chief. Remember,he is the one who is the decider, he decided to treat the soldiers like a commodity.

By mountain man

March 8, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

Yeah, his whole presidency has been a prop. Remember the photo of Bush carrying that “turkey” to the troops several years ago. A fake president with a fake turkey.

By Regulator

March 8, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

” If there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other it is the principle of free thought -not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that that we hate.” Oliver Wendell Holmes

By Paul

March 8, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Steven

Didn’t think I was making any excuses. I’ve found him to be a great disappointment - not just on the Iraq situation (as opposed to the war against the jihadists) but also on many, many domestic issues - greatly at variance with his record as governor.

I view it as a big difference between deferring way too much to one’s generals, civilian advisors, etc and not following more of the Truman mode. I don’t think callously using soldiers to further some nebulous idea is in the same league.

BTW - heard on the morning news report that the Democrats are introducing legislation calling for a withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. Finally, a counter to those Dem apologists who said “you expect quick action on Bush’s mess? They’ve been iin power only a couple of months.”

Feel better? Don’t. It won’t take effect until the fall of 2008. Let’s see… what else is going on about that time? I haven’t a clue….

Now if that isn’t callously using the troops as props, I don’t know what is.

By @@

March 8, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

ml, this site is a “test” of my patience.

Am I gonna have to copy each post just in case it doesn’t make it to your site the first time?

First you restrict the hours open for posting, then you take away our ability to italicize and bold. Then you eliminate by ability to post at all.

What’s next? Handcuffs so I can’t even attempt to convey my message?

I’ve never experienced this problem at Wooten’s.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

{{Everyone is a bureaucrat who will be paid no matter what and it is almost impossible to fire incompetents. That was the attitude at Walter Reed.}}

Fuddy- didn’t someone post here the other day that Walter Reed has been handled by private contractors? Maybe I’m confused about that and it was some other health care system — please let me know, thanks!

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

regulator-

Good quote. I may not agree with what someone says, but I will defend with my dying breath their right to say it

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

@@,

It’s gotten to the point where one needs to write comments in Microsoft Word format then copy and paste it to the blog in case it disappears.

Between that problem and the exasperating sluggishness of the server as comments add up during the day, it’s a real nuisance.

P.S. The cartoon sucks. Gosh, do you think that someone like ML might be a better Commander in Chief?

Spare me.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

{{ml, this site is a “test” of my patience.}}

Boobs— are you aware of why the restrictions had to be placed on this blog to begin with? Maybe Andy-dull can clue you in…

By Corky Cobb

March 8, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

You too, all you chickenhawks. “Support the blogs” is not doing anything to help the Iraq war you love.

Hitting conrol/alt/delete does not make your “enemy” disappear. Snuffing out 100 Iraqi’s in a video game does nothing. Hanging a yellow ribbon next to your computer is not going to get the job done. A power surge is not the same as a troop surge.

It’s time all of you war loving dodgers. Put the keyboard down and step away from the computer. The threat is real, right?

ENLIST

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

@@- conspiracy theory much?

do you realy think ML Personaly oversees this little p** and moan board all day. no, it’s someone who is doing a job. they call them webmasters. BTW I think LD is one of them as he seems to be able to post whenever he wants.

By George

March 8, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

@@, next is you disappear to la la land where you can fantasize about your glorious leader.

By Writer's block

March 8, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

The war is entering a new understanding. This war has been a spinning slogan ejecter from day one. Spin a War. Produce a slogan. The centrifugal force alone slings new slogans in all directions at a predictable rate.

Look at the news. Iran now will meet with Iraq about the war. At First that idea was treason. Cheney had that spin at hand on some sunday morning talk show not too long ago. America is a terrorist if America wants Iran to talk with Iraq about US troops. America is a terror cell if they dont understand that we fight them there so we dont have to fight them here (finger pointing downward at terra firma, and bottom row of teeth showing in ferocious scowl delivered through low key monotones, meaning he’s got bite and bark and ways of dealing with America if America dont understand how America is a terrorist if America dont repeat the new slogans all day long).

There is a truth about Al Queda. This truth exists independently of our presence in Iraq. That truth will develop realities of war during the events to come. In fact, the only meaningful data coming out of Iraq are the slogans. In restrospect, they will provide pundits with the ironies necessary for really clever spin doctoring about what happened while who knew what about where when and how.

Bush was correct that 97 percent of Iraqis want peace and democracy. That leaves over a half a million terrorists. Plenty to destroy any post war reconciliations between the tribes.

End game scenarios. Slogans. Can we just skip Iraq and land on Iran? Hopscotch style? Fail forward to Iran with aerial bombings? To make war by defacto acts of war is foolish. We’re at war with Iran because we’re at war with Iran, after all, they would bomb us if they could so we’ll bomb them cause they woulda if they coulda.

What Bush/Cheney doesn’t realize is that nations and groups will strike first if they think they’ll be struck, (just like we’re considering with Iran). We could get blindsided by a nation or group not even on the Cheney’s board.

By Corky Cobb

March 8, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

In her 9:14 post Buy Diaper says….

“Spare Me”

Spoken like a true chickenhawk. All of the war loving dodgers should place that line at the bottom of each of their posts. No words were truer spoken.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

-=-

If it is any consolation to BD and @@, I too have had several post not show up as well. Sounds like a system glitch!

I support the troops, but I refuse to support the idiots that put our troops in harms way without good cause!

But the question in my mind (considering the Think-Tank gang currently in charge of our country), is Dubya’ using the props or is Dubya’ himself just a prop?

Thomas/PNAC

“People should not be afraid of their Government. Governments should be afraid of their people!”

By Writer's block

March 8, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

The think tanks play end game scenarios for the Iraq War all day long. One is the bug out, where in 16 minutes, all us presence on the ground in Iraq evaporates. That’s when the Iraqis are supposed to stand up. Another is the slow walk away. Where we simply move one man per minutes out of the streets and send him home, like the Von Trap family’s final number when they stole away from under der SS’s nose. Still another end game is the all out blitz in Sadr City where we do a Pickett’s Charge against the terrorists there and just dont stop till everyone’s destroyed. The Saudis like that one. The Saudis are the ones who are dictating new end game scenarios to Bush/Cheney. The Saudi Royal Family has a vendetta against the Shia. Shia. What is a Shia? It’s a color. It’s a mood. It’s a prayer, and a pretty bow. It’s nearly east. It’s a ghost and a powerful shadow of force and retribution. It’s what happened to the war in Iraq, where we were once greeted with flowers and those new schools we built shone so brightly in the new morning sun….

So what’s gonna happen? In the end, at the end of the day, when it’s over? We will be in Iraq for fifty years. We can never leave. The war will become a series of meaningless atrocities that punctuate slow news days as the global economy picks up steam and everyone prospers amid the carnage in the little desert country of Iraq.

Iraq cant get worse. It can only be what it is. It will go on long after the public forgets about it, like white collar crime. The Saudis have known that. They know alot, the Saudis. They’ve been around for a while, you know. They’ve seen things. They’ve exchanged ideas. They’ve lied, and spun, and wrote Bush-speak, and dangled carrots in front of Cheney.

The Saudis. The slogans The war. The oil. The stench.

By DebbieDoRight

March 8, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Hmmm interesting comic today. At first I didn’t get it, but reading a few of the comments clued me in. Now that I understand, it makes me more sad than entertained. The “props” part just makes me sad.

By @@

March 8, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Goldie:

Are you aware that your obsession with Andy gives “him” all the power that you so desperately want and can’t have?

Jacksonwolff:

Conspiracy? No. Fact!!!

Four posts, and only one made it in. Hopefully this one will too.

While you whine about your personal freedoms, I’ll point out when and where mine are being infringed upon.

Thanks.

George:

Are you fantasizing about your hopes and dreams where I’m concerned.

I’m off the board until later, but I’m not in la la land.

Later!

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Never before in history has there been a greater collection of self-indulgent, self-righteous, comfort-seeking hedonists than what is now found in Hollywood. Their obsession with celebrity is over shadowed only by their immersion in foolishness and emotional immaturity. Having all things temporal, they are desperately in search of a purpose.

The big problem is that they’re dragging the whole entire country down with them.

Just look at this blog, it is ate up with dullard that believe anything they hear coming out of drug addled Hollywood, home of 50% of the world’s moonbats, but they don’t trust a guy like Bush who’s only trying to free 25,000,000 people from religious tyranny and slavery.

That would be the face of evil to them.

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By Doug

March 8, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

By @@

March 8, 2007 8:58 AM What’s next? Handcuffs so I can’t even attempt to convey my message?

If you tap out something that your boy W’s Homeland Security gestapo doesn’t like you very well could get the cuffs. Maybe they are monitoring Lucko’s blog and are intercepting your comments under provisions of the “Patriot” act. Anyway, I am surprised that a lemming like you even objects to being restricted in this way.

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Andy: You’ve got the right-wing vomit machine going strong today.

By Interesting Fact

March 8, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

20% of the residents of Hollywood, CA are of Iranian descent!

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

I don’t whine about my personal freedoms, I defend them, and chill out I was only kidding.

damn, you couldn’t pull a needle out of her butt with a tractor.

By getalife

March 8, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

We learned from the Libby trial that the reasons for this occupation was dead wrong.

It is time to right this dead wrong and withdraw. The President is begging the Dems to cut funding and they should.

It is the right thing to do to right this dead wrong. History will show the Dems doing the right thing and cut the funding.

By The Iranian Hillbillies

March 8, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

An Iranian influx into Southern California began after the last Shah of Iran was toppled in the Iranian revolution of 1979, prompting thousands of Iranians — especially Jewish and educated classes — to come to America. Today about 8,000 of Beverly Hill’s approximately 35,000 residents are of Iranian descent.

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

BTW I agree with BD on the slow server bit. That’s really annoying about 3:00 in the afternoon

By Flippity-Flop

March 8, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

2008 Republican Presidential Primary: Giuliani Leads McCain by 15

Hey, hey, hey! The Republicans are gonna run a liberal for President in 2008.

By getalife

March 8, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

Quit whining about this blog.

Andy and his silly games made the AJC to put rules on free speech.

Blame that idiot Andy.

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

WHATS HIS FACE DULL QUOTES ARYEH SPERO WHO THIS JANUARY WROTE:

“What is happening at Gitmo is not torture but coercion.”

COURSE SOME FOLKS HERE LIKE THAT>

By Jesus

March 8, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

LD but they don’t trust a guy like Bush who’s only trying to free 25,000,000 people from religious tyranny and slavery.

IRAQ was a secular country before we invaded, that was a big part of that little fight they called the iran/iraq war. Although I think it’s great that they are “free” now, I don’t think that the president would have gotten a mandate to invade Iraq to “free” her citizens.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

-=-

Get a Grip Andy-Dull’

Gore’s Film created emotions nation wide on both sides and Therefore is Art. Hollywood voted based on the contribution that the film made to art of film-making

But you apparently have no soul and cannot see art when it is before you…

To “Paraphrase and Parody” the Right Wing Talk Show Clown that Andy-dull Posted:

{Never before in history has there been a greater collection of self-indulgent, self-righteous, comfort-seeking hedonists than what is now found in the NeoCons. Their obsession with Dubya’ is over shadowed only by their immersion in foolishness and emotional immaturity. Having all things temporal, they are desperately in search of a purpose.}

Thomas/PNAC

By BillSlowsky

March 8, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

BTW I agree with BD on the slow server bit. That’s really annoying about 3:00 in the afternoon

You mean that time of day when all the right wingers get off work and sprint to the computer?

By bgirl

March 8, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Mike, pleeeeez, these are photo ops of a morally justified, successfully run and competently executed war — right???

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Debbie, yes it is sad how Dubya has used our troops so often for his photo “props”… he thinks maybe some of their service and sacrifice is a reflection of him somehow. Our troops are being used in so many ways by this administration.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

getalife - these are the same arguments made in 1974 and 1975. It was wrong then and wrong now. Have you ever heard of Pol Pot?

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Flippity-Flop - The Republicans are going to run an Eisenhower Republican, not a liberal Republican. Giuliani lowered taxes, fought crime and cut the size of government over his two terms in NYC. That record a liberal does not make.

By bon scott

March 8, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

By @@ - March 8, 2007 8:58 AM - ml, this site is a “test” of my patience. First you restrict the hours open for posting, then you take away our ability to italicize and bold. Then you eliminate by ability to post at all.

We all know who’s responsible for these restrictions. Andy. His homophopia, sexism, and disgust of anything to the left of George Wallace was bad enough. But his postings of whole chapters from”The Daily Kos” under one of his usual transparent pseudonyms last spring was the final straw. THAT’S when the restrictions were imposed.

When you think of the time limits and lack of the ability to put words in bold or italics, think of Andy, that drunken wanker who lets his wife and daughters support his insatiable ml and Wooten blog rants in between his swigs of vodka. Enabler queens, all of them.

Yep, it was, is and will be Andy who is on a mission to destroy this blog. Just because we don’t agree with his drunken, xenophobic excuses for discussion, he’d rather silence us all. Even you, @@. And you too RW and Pastry.

He really needs professional help. Or at least a serious intevention leading to a 6 month stay at Betty Ford.

By trudy

March 8, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Bush Belongs Behind Bars

By getalife

March 8, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Yes, old man.

The same mistake repeated.

We learned from the Libby trial that the reasons for this occupation were dead wrong.

It is time to right this dead wrong and withdraw. The President is begging the Dems to cut funding and they should.

It is the right thing to do to right this dead wrong. History will show the Dems doing the right thing and cut the funding to end this dead wrong occupation.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Prop: Aryeh also said this in the same column-

In the Muslim world, victims are left with permanent defacing of the human body such as cut off fingers, ears, noses, gouged out eyes, and scars and incinerations from fire that remain with the victim for life. Such torture is done for the sake of torture and suffering alone and does not end until the thug reaches self-satisfaction. Such tortures incapacitate and cause excruciating pain for the remainder of that person’s life. We do not do any of that.

But you never hear any pinkos harping about that, they save all their energy to rag on the country that won’t kill them for it, such brave people these libs.

So they slaughtered more than a hundred pilgrims - men, women and children; young and old - in Allah’s name. Where was the outcry? Human-rights groups were too busy applauding European requests for the extradition of CIA operatives (the real enemies of Western civilization, of course). Since this butchery wasn’t the fault of Americans or Brits, the Europeans themselves took no interest.

Yes, where is the outrage?

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By Goldie

March 8, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Flippity-Flop, you are correct @ 10:37! The Repugs have figured out that their usual “family values” crowd are not gonna pull ‘em through in ‘08… pretty hilarious, huh?

By getalife

March 8, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

In case you missed it old man, the Iraqi Shiite government is purging the American CIA out of Iraq for Iranian intellegence.

Iran won the Iraq war by this dead wrong stupid occupation by the neocon idiots.

Pelosi is talking about the Dems new plan now. It is a timetable to show progress by July 1 or get out. Finally, some oversight to this failed occupation.

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

FROM THE WASHINGTON POST

Last October, Joyce Rumsfeld, the wife of then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, was taken to Walter Reed by a friend concerned about outpatient treatment. She attended a weekly meeting, called Girls Time Out, at which wives, girlfriends and mothers of soldiers exchange stories and offer support.

According to three people who attended the gathering, Rumsfeld listened quietly. Some of the women did not know who she was. At the end of the meeting, Rumsfeld asked one of the staff members whether she thought that the soldiers her husband was meeting on his visits had been handpicked to paint a rosy picture of their time there. The answer was yes.

NOT ONLY USING TROOPS FOR PHOTO OPS BUT ALSO WOUNDED>

By Haliburton

March 8, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Flippity-Flop - The Republicans are going to run an Eisenhower Republican, not a liberal Republican.

Au contraire Old Fuddy! Just the fact that ole Ike stated “beware of the military/industrial complex”, makes him a flaming liberal to the neo-conservative right wing of the republican party. Personally I would love another Ike in the White House. Best damned president in our history. And why is it that we have peace and prosperity when true warriors inhabit the WH as opposed to the adventurists like Bush/Cheney? Could it be because they ARE the military industrial/complex? Run Colin run!!! Imagine the difference today if the potential Eisenhower of our time had been prez instead of ole GW.

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

IF GIVEN THE CHANCE WHATEVER DULL WOULD YOU DO IT?

WOULD YOU PERSONALLY TORTURE ANOTHER HUMAN BEING?

OR IS THAT CALLED MARITAL RELATIONS AT YOUR HOUSE?

WE DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR SOURCES.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Oh good, finch is going to start right off with dragging people’s families into this. When will he go to making threats on them, again?

finch: I totally understand that you are a f*******-king mental case and your unhealthy obsession with me and the other Conservatives has clouded your better judgement but if you make mention of my family one more time, I will devote all of my energy and resources to making the corrections to you that your doctors have failed to make.

You do not want to find out what I’m talking about.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Haliburton— I believe I read awhile back that Eisenhower was actually a Dem before the Repugs talked him into running for Prez in the 50’s on their ticket… it was the Dems’ mistake in not asking him first to run!

By mountain man

March 8, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

I would hope that after the insanity of this misadministration that the American people will have wised up and will permanently put this era of the neocons behind them. I am not advocating that we lurch toward the far left, either. What is need is some sensible, realistic, balanced leadership.

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

OK I’ve been looking at this blog long enough to finaly get what I like to call the “Charlie Brown” effect. every time that LD starts a post all I see is wuwuwuwu wuwu wuwuwu. kinda like the teacher on Charlie Brown.

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

mountain man-

Sensible, realistic, balanced leadership, From WASHINGTON?!!?

In the words of Weezer-

“ARE YOU HIGH, CLARIE?”

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Why doesn’t Cheney just tell us the truth? You’re a pack of crybabies. Why didn’t Libby testify at trial? Why didn’t Cheney testify? Why won’t Cheney fess up? Those five deferments weighing him down? America is on to you. You lie all the time.

By bon scott

March 8, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

What an interessing proposition, Dull.

Tell you what? You and your ilk stop discusing my family, or what you think is my family, on this and other blogs, and I’ll stop discussing yours.

I know that will be hard for you to remember, what with a bloodstream that’s more Smirnoff’s than plasma, but try anyway.

And you don’t want to tangle with me. I AM your worst nightmare. Which I find quite enjoyable.

By Scooter

March 8, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

“The struggle in Iraq, Bush said, is part of a larger regional conflict against the forces of extremism that, if left unchecked, would overthrow the moderate governments of the region and plot future attacks against the United States and its allies.

Gosh, doesn’t Bush know the partially informed (informed by a biased media) masses have been led to believe that individually prosecuting terrorists after they attack us is the way to do it? I mean darn, that was the tactic we used for 30 years and it was showing real signs of progress, (sarc).

One lesson from this conflict is to realize how powerful the media is in hastening our defeat. If you want to know the bad things that happen in Iraq look at the front page. If you want to see any good you have to turn to page Z-12 and they will be shown after the obituaries, if they are shown at all.

I anticipate the libs will no exclaim there is no good in this conflict because they have not been willing to search it out or think in the long term. Perhaps they think Saddam kept Iraq’s infrastructure in tip-top shape? Oh well, show the troops support by sending them to the mountains of Afghanistan to be slaughtered in mountainous terrain by an enemy that has been fortifying their positions for decades. Don’t forget to tell them their comrades died for a mistake or their lives were wasted (McCain can suck it too for his political comment).

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Jacksonwolff,

Your homosexual laced blogs serve absolutely no purpose. Why don’t you just quit? None of these men want you.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

{{Tell you what? You and your ilk stop discusing my family, or what you think is my family, on this and other blogs, and I’ll stop discussing yours.}}

Considering that I don’t talk about your family, nor do I even care to begin to talk about your family, these rules I can live with. It’s a deal.

{{And you don’t want to tangle with me. I AM your worst nightmare.}}

Taking in to consideration the fact that this could be the last post I ever made to you and it would not bother me one bit, I would put you in the rear view mirror and never look back, versus what I’ve done to you so far without even lifting a finger, you are the one, after all, sitting around obsessively babbling about the life of someone you don’t even know, you may want to consider who is really a threat to who.

You’ve got some major issues sweetheart that are not at all healthy.

You would be wise to seriously think about what I just said.

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Doo

I don’t want any of these men, either. I have someone in my life and am very happy with him. I am here to discuss my views and listen to the views of others, not to put someone down so that I can make up for my own insecurities.

you have a blessed day

By Haliburton

March 8, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Never mind that terrorism is the most overblown issue of our time, huh Scoot? Don’t let the fact that your chances of getting wasted by a terrorist is about 900,000,000 to 1 get in the way either. And yes, 9/11 p** us all of, but guess what Scoot boy? More college age kids are killed in a year EVERY year (5000+) in drinking related incidents than will be killed in 10 years or more by terrorists. Combine that with the cost of this Bush/Cheney boondogle. The fact that there are still about 25% of Americans that can’t see through the smoke and mirrors is an indictment of common sense in this country today.

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Doom wins again! No one can withstand the might of Doom.

Now, if I can just get Goldie/Midori’s confession of multiple ID use.

By The Watcher

March 8, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Could we blog more and splatter testosterone less?

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

By IN THE PROPAGANDA March 8, 2007 11:15 AM IF GIVEN THE CHANCE WHATEVER DULL WOULD YOU DO IT?

Prop: If I posted an article that talked about using torture on religious throat cutting barbarians IF it would save the lives of small children, then you can pretty much bank on that being my opinion of the subject too.

Why the F are you asking me questions about it?

Think, man, think.

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By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

what do you mean, doom wins? I didn’t say I was leaving, I just said have a blesses day.

you certainly are a legend in your own mind.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

{{{{{{By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

OK I’ve been looking at this blog long enough to finaly get what I like to call the “Charlie Brown” effect. every time that LD starts a post all I see is wuwuwuwu wuwu wuwuwu. kinda like the teacher on Charlie Brown.}}}}}}

LOL, Jacksonwolff,

you’re coming thru loud and clear.

By Scooter

March 8, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Haliburton, …..

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

The Watcher,

You are named after one of the Doom’s allies.

We are blogging. Isn’t it wonderful when you’re able to bring the perverted out of the closet? Doom still has more work to do here,however.

By Scooter

March 8, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Haliburton, it’s good to know you have so much confidence in the Department of Homeland Security. Have you thanked Bush?

By 2ndTimeBack

March 8, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

By Scooter

March 8, 2007 11:54 AMDon’t forget to tell them their comrades died for a mistake or their lives were wasted (McCain can suck it too for his political comment).

No, YOU suck it Scooter! Unlike you and those of your ilk, McCain’s been there. I guess you prefer a documented coward like ole 5 deferment Dick, huh Scoot boy? He’s a verifiable coward. You on the other hand are just plain ole chickensh^t.

By bon scott

March 8, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

[By Deadly DullDull - March 8, 2007 12:02 PM - {bon excerpt: Tell you what? You and your ilk stop discusing my family, or what you think is my family, on this and other blogs, and I’ll stop discussing yours.{end of bon excerpt}(http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2007/03/07/militaristic_po.html#comment-1048889)

Considering that I {otherwise known as Andy} don’t talk about your family, nor do I even care to begin to talk about your family, these rules I can live with. It’s a deal.

Andy, how you (under any of your pseudodyms) can lie while keeping a straight face makes you a finalist in the John Wilkes Booth best acting award.

You have discussed my sexuality, my spouse and my ancestry (among other things). You and your ilk delight in Googling our alleged history, even though your knowledge of important things like names, dates and places is questionable at best.

So are you threatening me?

I’m laughing. Go have another drink.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

-=-

LOL -

Andy-Dull - you have got to be kidding! Torture is just fine, if it saves the lives of small Children?

Yep - Our Bombs (and Secret Torture Camps) are saving the lives of small children! That’s a great jewel of wisdom from the warmongering clowns you support!

Oh and we are “FREE’ing” the Muslim’s from their country’s Religion of Choice and worship! I guess you want to help them become Freedom loving Christians! That’s not Freedom, that’s coerced conversion of the Heretics!

[(10:11am)but they don’t trust a guy like Bush who’s only trying to free 25,000,000 people from religious tyranny and slavery.]

So your ready to toss out the US Constitution and Bill of Rights all in one sweep - Eh? Get rid of Due Process, Habeus Corpus, and all basic human rights associated with a Free and Democratic society. So your willing to fall into the pit of Barbarism, War, Fearmongering, and torture yourself to justify your Idealism!

You are definitly one loose screwball!

Thomas/PNAC

By Midori

March 8, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

oh, the irony!!!!!

Andy using “wise” and “serious” and “think” all in the same sentence!!!!

sounds like someone needs to heed his own B.S. advice.

You create an air of poision and loathing, and when people call you on it, all of a sudden it’s about “you”, and people being “obsessed” by “you”.

Your’e more deranged and drunk than one can imagine, aren’t you?

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Midori,

How’s Goldie doing? Have you looked in the mirror and spoken to her lately?

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

funny, doo, I’ve been out of the closet for about a decade now and I don’t remember needing any help. (especialy from someone who thinks the world is flat and that the sun revolves around the earth)

God Bless

By getalife

March 8, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

“Convicting Libby of perjury was like convicting Al Capone of tax evasion. It doesn’t mean they were not guilty of other crimes.”
— Joe Wilson

By Midori

March 8, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Doom,

Goldie was posting here around 11 or so.

Why not ask her yourself?

Have you been nipping into Andy’s stash?

By TheDonald

March 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

In the everyday going to work world, when you make a mistake you must first recognize that fact. Then you have to minimize that mistake, and fix it at the same time. If you fail to recognize it through ignorance, incompetence, or just plain stubborness, and you keep doing the same old thing and expecting a different result, you will undoubtedly be shown the door. Based on that premise, the one most of us have to live by everyday, how long ago do you think Bush/Cheney would have heard the words…YOU’RE FIRED!!

By Peter

March 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Note that House Bill - H.R.207 - Depleted Uranium Screening and Testing Act, to provide for identification of members of the Armed Forces exposed during military service to depleted uranium, to provide for health testing of such members, and for other purposes; has only seven co-sponsors. (All of them Democratic.)

Republican Representative (Physician) Tom Price was content to have H.R. 2410 [109th]: Depleted Uranium Munitions Study Act (with 49 co-sponsors) die. Tom was not among two Republicans with interest to support simply studying the effects of exposure.

How similar to the Agent Orange of my generation. SUPPORT THE TROOPS …

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

jacksonwolff,

Doom has always been curious, maybe you can help me. Are you the man or woman in the relationship, how does that work? Also, how does feel to have people like me constantly ridicule you?

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Doom wants to nip into your stash. How can we make that happen?

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Andy has three personas all evident. One is a gay female, the other is a latent gay whacked out male, and the third a mere freak. He should pay AJC for saving him psych bills.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Eisenhower did warn against the military-industrial complex, that is true. He also believed in a very strong national defense. He did not “cut” the defense budget in the way that Carter or Clinton did. Of course, that was also at a time when John Kennedy ran as a Democrat complaining about a fictional missile gap and that the defense budget was not high enough. Today, the defense budget is actually half of what it was during the Vietnam era. Bush has also spent much more on social programs and new entitlements than fiscal conservatives like me would like. I don’t think that Eisenhower would have any trouble with our current defense policies. He understood that the primary duty of the federal government is defense. Everything else is secondary.

By Lord Doom

March 8, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Doom’s comment at 1:04 was a response to Midori’s 12:50.

Don’t get excited jacksonwolff.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 8, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Great info Peter, thanks.

I have a vet friend, exposed to agent orange, 2 kids with CP…

I read somewhere (The IAVA website I think) of the unusually high number of birth defects among Gulf, Afganistan and Iraq vets.
It’s ugly.

And of course the incredible rise in cancer rates of Iraqi civilians.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 8, 2007 12:40 PM Andy-Dull - you have got to be kidding! Torture is just fine, if it saves the lives of small Children?

Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad: I tell you what, you go ahead and stick up for the Islamic suicide bombing killers of the innocent, I’ll speak on behalf of the children of America who your delightful little cut throats would just love to kill and will as soon as they get a chance.

I don’t weep for murderers like you do.

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By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

-=-

Somewhere over the Rainbow!

http://www.brattononline.com/images/bush-cheney-oz.jpg

-=-

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

-=-

Andy —

If you drive a car that uses oil from the middle-east then you are paying and supporting the very same people you say you hate!

Hippocrit!

Thomas/PNAC

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Heh, heh, heh, I found it:

projection A defense mechanism, operating unconsciously, in which what is emotionally unacceptable in the self is unconsciously rejected and attributed (projected) to others.-Terms in the field of Psychiatry and Neurology

Whackjobs.

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By Goldie

March 8, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

{{every time that LD starts a post all I see is wuwuwuwu wuwu wuwuwu. kinda like the teacher on Charlie Brown.}}

Good one, Jackson! Or, it’s like those drive-thru speakers at the Wendy’s that are so tinny and garbled…

By Midori

March 8, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Old Fuddy Duddy,

I was in the Army circa Gulf War I.

It was the senior Bush who authorized drastic troop cuts and military base closings.

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

actualy we take turns-one day I clean the house, the next he cooks dinner.

as for the ridicule, if I couldn’t handle it I would have been dead in high school. You learn to deal with people who don’t agree with you by developing a thick skin. You do have some experience with that posting on here.

Alot of people don’t agree with you, but you have learned to deal with it in your own way.

and as far as my stash goes, don’t flatter yourself.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 8, 2007 1:21 PM If you drive a car that uses oil from the middle-east then you are paying and supporting the very same people you say you hate!

Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad: So you’re saying that every single solitary Muslim in the world is a suicide bombing terrorist?

And that we should immediately open up ANWR and the Florida coast to oil drilling?

Or maybe we should swear off all of our oil use and become a third world country, taking our rightful place behind Ethiopia?

Or are you just mindlessly throwing around moonbat talking points?

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By Goldie

March 8, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Midori— I’m unable to figure this obsession that Gloom-n-doom has about you and me… whatever!

LMAO!

By Flippity-Flop

March 8, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - Congressional Democrats have decided to push a specific timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

Democratic officials who described the measure said the timetable would be accelerated — to the end of 2007 — if the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki does not meet goals for providing Iraq’s security.

Democrats were mandated by the american voter to get our troops out of Iraq but Republicans squall like a 2 year old that’s dropped his candy in the dirt when any mention is made of IMMEDIATE withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

So the Democrats, in the spirit of bipartisanship, decide to give the Republican troop surge a year to put-up or shut-up. What do they get for their effort? Republicans seize on the concession to claim that Democrats are stalling the withdrawal in order to use the troops as props to support their 2008 Presidential bid!

Only a Neo could speak from each of their two faces at the same time with such aplomb. So what’s it gonna be Republicans, immediate withdrawal or withdrawal closer to the 2008 elections, flippity or flop?

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

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No Andy -

It was YOU that was saying every single muslim in the world was a throat slitting islamist terrorist! You were also saying that they need to be freed of their religion, etc.

I was just replying to your insanity.

And no I don’t suggest opening up ANWR or the Florida Coast for drilling. I would suggest we start kicking the Fossil Fuel(ish) habit completly.

Just one of the budget’s 600 billion spent in Iraq could have found us lots of free energy, and opened up new markets in man-made methane/bio-fuels, and alternative energy supplys. Even converting our military equipment over to other power sources could be quite useful as we could reduce the need for supply lines. (Example - Solar powered and glider ariel reconnasance drones already in the works)

If we had no need for oil from the middle-east then the terrorist would lose access to all of those extra funds for killing us.

No you jerk, I do not support suicide bombers, I despise them.

But I also despise sycophants like you that bow down to the war-mongering empire building leaders as you do.

Basically I despise war, murder, killing, torture, death, and destruction in all it’s “glorious” forms. You revel in it!

War is not pretty, and death and dismemberment occurs on both sides. You can watch your sanitized Faux newscast and cheer the war on from your sofa lounger, and say what a great job we are doing while people (and children) die. But I refuse to buy into your right wing cheerleading garbage in the name of the corporations and powermongers that profit from this so called war.

Thomas/PNAC

By getalife

March 8, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Senior Republicans who knew about problems at Walter Reed Army Medical Center while their party controlled Congress insist they did all they could to prod the Pentagon to fix them

Geez.

By Scooter

March 8, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla, in an effort of objective civility without partisanship I provide you with the following. No need to thank me, it is yours to ignore or accept.

the House of Representatives today passed legislation that includes an amendment by Rep. Jim McDermott (WA-D) ordering a comprehensive study on possible health effects from exposure to depleted uranium on U.S. soldiers and their children.

And another of many; The Sandia study, however, also includes an analysis of potential health effects of DU fragments embedded as shrapnel in the bodies of some U.S. veterans. The Sandia study also looked at civilian exposures in greater detail, examined the potential risk of DU-induced birth defects in the children of exposed individuals, and provided a more detailed analysis of the dispersion of DU following impact with a number of targeted vehicles.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

By AntiRadical March 8, 2007 1:53 PM Democrats were mandated by the american voter to get our troops out of Iraq but Republicans squall like a 2 year old that’s dropped his candy in the dirt when any mention is made of IMMEDIATE withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

Spammie: WTF are you trying to say?

1) democrats are spineless jellyfish that back down at the first challenge, cut and runners so to speak?

2) democrats lied to you dullards before the elections about “getting the troops out?”

3) You’re too stupid to realize that the Republicans are in the war for victory not some stupid political advantage, is that concept totally foreign to you?

4) democrats are flopping around like fish out of water trying to come up with something, ANYTHING, to get the liberal move on moonbats off their backs, first is was withdrawal, then cut funding, then cut troops, now a date, we still have zero from you pukes.

Pis-s off you little pervert.

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By Paul

March 8, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Old Fuddy Duddy 1:06

Actually, we’re spending billions more on Defense that at the height of VietNam. Or anytime since Korea. There’s ususally a bit of confusion over current-year dollars and constant (adjusted for inflation) dollars.

A good summary article is at

Link:[Defense Budget Still Full of Fat]*(http://www.slate.com/id/2088277/)

from Slate by Fred Kaplan. Sure, Slate’s a liberal mag, but Kaplan’s a longtime military analyst.

Lest we get back to the “who’s the dummy who cut Defense” argument: Defense budget’s based on current and projected threats (this is the theory). Weapons and tactics are costed. Soviet Union imploded. Our main enemy was… gone. Many have argued no President since (or Congress, who keeps the pork piled on) went nearly far enough in cutting the budget or reorganizing Defense. The last SecDef who even came close to trying was Rumsfeld.

We could, right now, cut tens of billions from Defense (cries of protests from Democrats “we can’t cut during a war - we support the troops” notwithstanding). Of course, many communities would take job cuts, many corporations would cut people, campaign donations would go down - and it’d be awfully tough to do, so it’ll never happen.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

{{Only a Neo could speak from each of their two faces at the same time with such aplomb.}}

Flippity- we have a no-win situation going on in Iraq, thanks to Dubya’s efforts to “spread democracy at gunpoint”… no matter who we elect in ‘08, it’s going to be a long, terrible mess to clean up after damage done by the Repugnant Party!

By rushncap

March 8, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

getalife: great quote by Wilson. I completely agree. In fact, if you ask RW, who is keeping a record of every single thing I have ever written (I’m sure he’s gone to my jr. high and asked for my book reviews from 7th grade by now) he would tell you that some weeks ago I posted a nearly identical sentiment: nailing Libby for perjury is like nailing Al Capone for tax evasion. It ain’t pretty, sure, but it’s at least something that will stick to this criminal, but slick, administration.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

HAHAHAHA

Get this!!

Another “hero” of the right!!

What is it with you wingnuts and gay prostitutes??

Left-wing blogs gleefully outed my gay porn past after I criticized antiwar zealots. But the truth has set me free

Awwwww

Poor baby!!!

Next he’ll tell us that he sucks d-icks for Christ!!

By Randy

March 8, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

dems want to set a timetable to pull out? Are they frookin insane?

Fine, if they set a timetable, the terrorists will lay low. It will give a false impression of calm. Maybe bring an early withdrawal.

Then the big party in hell begins and spreads.

You libs are frookin stupid.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Flippity Flop -There is no “spirit” of bipartisanship there. There are many Democrats like Lieberman, Ben Nelson and Jim Marshall who are just opposed to the cut and run surrender policy of the left-wing. They are every bit as liberal as the other Dems, they just are not surrender-firsters. Also, the leadership is aware that any new policy must be given time to work. What the Reps are accusing the Dems of doing is precisely what many (Levin) have openly said they are doing. They want to force a timetable that says withdraw by October, 2008. My source is the AJC.

By reebok

March 8, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

If the roles were exactly reversed, and a Democratic president - any Democrat - had done the exact same things ‘President’ Bush has done, he or she would have been impeached already. Lying us into a war, illegally tapping the phones of American citizens, exposing CIA operatives as a scare tactic - any one of these would have cranked up Fox News, the WSJ editorial page, and hate radio to such frenzied volume that congress would have had to act. But the MSM is so cowed, and so scared of being labeled liberal, that they’ve given the village idiot from Texas a free ride.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Flippity Flop.

Wow. What a great example of reading events to fit an ideological viewpoint. No mention of the farther-than-middle wing of the Democratic party who feel betrayed by the midterm elections (those protesters for Hillary aren’t college Republicans)? Just where did Spk Pelosi or anyone else say they’d give the troop surge a chance “in the spirit of bipartisanship?”

Your link had Pelosi saying “the provision was designed to make sure the government would “not be sending our troops into battle without the proper training, the proper equipment.” So Pelosi and the Dems are more than willing to keep sending Americans to their deaths in what they describe as a “mistake.” Heard a USMC major on NPR (protester) the other day - he said these kind of tactics mean “support the further killing of the troops.”

This strikes me as more major party politics as usual. Take the election off the table - it’d be easy for the Dems to substitute “April 2007” for the date.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 8, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

All of you people, left and right, who insist on acting like kids on the playground who cannot have a civil discussion, but insist on calling names, please stop! Because a person has a differing view does not mean he is stupid and it does not warrant calling someone petty little name or cursing at said person or calling him out and questioning ancestry etc… All of you please grow up!

By Walt

March 8, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

“I was in the Army circa Gulf War I.

It was the senior Bush who authorized drastic troop cuts and military base closings.”

I was at Jubayl.

The Military Industrial/Congressional Complex doesn’t want a big Armed Forces.

That sucks away money from the type of programs that employ 20 or 50 retired colonels at $250K a year improving the effeciency of a jet engine by 2% or employing 20 or 50 Navy Captains at $250K a year making sure our subs can dive 50 feet deeper.

They -have- extended the boondoggle to the infantryman though. Now they have this “Land Warrior” concept to throw tons of money at.

We are so screwed.

Yes, I am a bleeding heart liberal Marine.

Walt

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 8, 2007 2:08 PM I would suggest we start kicking the Fossil Fuel(ish) habit completly.

Any questions?

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By Midori

March 8, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Hey, pleased to meet a kindred spirit, Walt :)

I love Marines. :)

Those guys are FEARLESS :)

By Walt

March 8, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

“from Slate by Fred Kaplan. Sure, Slate’s a liberal mag, but Kaplan’s a longtime military analyst.

Lest we get back to the “who’s the dummy who cut Defense” argument: Defense budget’s based on current and projected threats (this is the theory). Weapons and tactics are costed. Soviet Union imploded. Our main enemy was… gone. Many have argued no President since (or Congress, who keeps the pork piled on) went nearly far enough in cutting the budget or reorganizing Defense. The last SecDef who even came close to trying was Rumsfeld.”

Don’t -ever- forget that it was on -9/10/01- that Rummy was complaining about there not being enough money in the budget for missile defence.

Having to support a large number of troops (as I said earlier), is a drag on spending tons of money on real exotic weapons that add little to the defense of the country. Can’t have that.

I’d say that a large number of military officers are looking at college for 1-3 kids about the time the Defence contractors come around and offer to quadruple their pay.

No one could resist that. It doesn’t matter how bogus the need is for the weapons system. They’ll support it.

You can always spot early infection, too. The afflicted starts referring to rifles and pistols as “weapons systems”.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 8, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Scooter

I appreciate your “hand across the aisle” gesture.

I am rather dubious of the Sandia study as they are well connected to our military/insudtrial complex. To me it’s too much like the fox guarding the hen house.

Not to mention the government’s overall handling of the agent orange issue to this day.

But again, thanks.

By jacksonwolff

March 8, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

well said OFD,

I’m still in shock that Doom was close to civil to me today. He actualy asked a question and didn’t throw a slur in it.

I we ever want to have a reasoned debate, we need to realize that names are for the schoolyard bullies of the world, on the left and the right.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Brother-sister couple challenges German incest law

I didn’t know Andy and @@ lived in Germany

By Paul

March 8, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Walt

True, too. The “not enough money for missile defense” (projections by DoD - they think several nations could have some nuc-capable missile systems in the not too distant future) was because of the F-22s, 35s, subs, howitzers (which Rumsfeld cancelled) etc. He wanted to skip (not delay, not reduce, but skip) most of those big-ticket items in the pipeline. He wanted missile defense? Fine. He also wanted Predators, drones, many more special ops, lots of better equipment for the grunts - and got slow-rolled twenty ways to Sunday.

By Walt

March 8, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

“It was YOU that was saying every single muslim in the world was a throat slitting islamist terrorist! You were also saying that they need to be freed of their religion, etc.”

If they are not, they are supposed to be.

Islam teaches -convert or die-.

If you read “Imperial Hubris” by Michael Schuerer (sp), he notes that Bin Ladin sent us all a message to convert, and that he would help us.

This was a couple of years ago.

According to Scheurer, OBL -had- to do that before he worked some horribly destructive act or acts on us.

That is because that it only -after- the infidel rejects Islam that his throat goes under the knife. He needed to show worldwide Islam that he at least tried to convert us before he vaporizes, say, the Five Points MARTA station.

My big problem with Bush is not that he is killing people. He is killing the wrong people and ineptly to the point of criminal incompetence.

Walt

By Walt

March 8, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Nice to meet you also. :D

I met a gal named Midori once who was a lieutenant in the Air Force. That wasn’t you was it?

Walt

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Midori— thanks for that link re: Matt Sanchez… I was telling a friend about it yesterday and meant to look for a link to send — you saved me some time.

Is the guy an idiot or so full of self-hatred that he had to become a Repugnant lacky?

[“We have all done things we don’t want advertised, and many of us may have identities we’ve outgrown, but the truth is, most of us haven’t strayed far enough from the run-of-the-mill to rate more than a bit of whispered gossip from a snubbed co-worker.”]

By Flippity-Flop

March 8, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

By Paul March 8, 2007 8:56 AM BTW - heard on the morning news report that the Democrats are introducing legislation calling for a withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. Finally, a counter to those Dem apologists who said “you expect quick action on Bush’s mess? They’ve been iin power only a couple of months.”

Feel better? Don’t. It won’t take effect until the fall of 2008. Let’s see… what else is going on about that time? I haven’t a clue…. Now if that isn’t callously using the troops as props, I don’t know what is.

then

By Paul March 8, 2007 2:28 PM- Flippity Flop: Wow. What a great example of reading events to fit an ideological viewpoint.

But implying that Democrats are stalling the withdrawal of troops from Iraq in order to influence the 2008 Presidential race is NOT “a great example of reading events to fit an ideological viewpoint”?

Since yours’ was the first example, this would be a fine case of the pot calling the kettle black, would it not?

Nice try but still doesn’t respond to the flippity-flop facetiousness of Republican catterwallin bout not withdrawing troops now, then berating Democrats for waiting until later to do so.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

-=-

Walt —-

No doubt the Muslim’s of the middle east are for the most part a Barbaric people. No doubt that Shia Law, and other theocratic societies of the middle-east are the cause of much sufferring and death for their people as they take their religion to the extreme letter of the Qur’an.

If you look at the The Holy Bible (especially Old Testament) you will find just as many statements of “convert-or-die” as there are in the Qur’an.

Our advantage is that we have become civilized in the west, and although we may have abandoned some of the principled teachings of the bible, we have also (thankfully) abandoned some of the barbaric rituals as well.

Many Muslims in the civilized societies have done the exact same thing with Qur’an. These muslims are to be appreciated and quite possibly the way to diplomatic and peaceful solutions in world affairs.

Using a broad brush leaves no room for diplomacy versus Holy War (or war in general). Otherwise we will be killing each other until we are all dead.

Getting rid of Saddam was the only real good thing that I saw come out of our invasion of Iraq. Destabilizing the region however was a bad thing and we will suffer from that mistake for quite some time.

Walt - I think you and I think alike in many areas though. I was raised around DOD, TRADOC, DFD, and Military Installations all my life. I have way too many close friends in the military and stationed around the world that I worry about each and every day.

Hope to chat/debate with you often. You are definitly a reasonable voice on the blog.

Thomas/PNAC

By Midori

March 8, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Sorry Walt. My loss, I suppose :)

I was in the Army, not Air Force :)

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

{{Fine, if they set a timetable, the terrorists will lay low.}}

Brilliant thinkin’, Randy… the terrorists “will lay low” — it’s a friggin’ civil war, Doofus! They’re gonna continue fighting whether we are there or not — our troops are convenient targets for both Sunni and Shia now!

By Dusty

March 8, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Midori @ 2:46

I didn’t think you could get any lower but you have broken your own record for pure muck. Would you mind telling us why you are compelled to post such stuff as that?

By Midori

March 8, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

Make sure you read the editor’s picks of letters responding to that article.

Cat Daddy sure is full of himself, isn’t he?

By Scooter

March 8, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, not a problem. I just wanted to illustrate that studies on the affects of depleted uranium have been done and Congress would probably be wise to not duplicate efforts. All in all, I think the money would be better spent on forms of treatment rather than additional studies.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

oh, Crusty,

why don’t you run along before someone drops a house on you, too?

You want muck?

Open your mouth.

By Mike

March 8, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Typical hypocrisy from Luckovich, who visited troops at a hospital once and kept a link up to the realted “story” for 10 months.

Of course, what’s the point of being a liberal if you can’t be a stone cold hypocrite?

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Randy— it must have just irked you to no end that your guy Cheney thinks that the British withdrawal of troops this year is “a positive sign” — somehow all of a sudden he no longer believes that “the terrorists will lay low”????

Which is it, Randy, for you rightwing loonies — a positive sign for withdrawing troops or is it “cut-n-run”???

Like I posted before, no wonder your party lost so bad in November — you’ve got your propaganda spewing all over the place in all kind of directions!

By Walt

March 8, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

“True, too. The “not enough money for missile defense” (projections by DoD - they think several nations could have some nuc-capable missile systems in the not too distant future) was because of the F-22s, 35s, subs, howitzers (which Rumsfeld cancelled) etc. He wanted to skip (not delay, not reduce, but skip) most of those big-ticket items in the pipeline.”

Rummy, as Keith Olbermann says in a recent GQ Magazine, could not have done more damage to this country if he had been in the pay of OBL.

It is -very- hard to kill weapons programs. About 20 years ago they had the Sgt York Air Defense gun -mounted on a tank. Its radar would lock on the exhaust fan on the firing range bathrooms.

It would have been bad if the SecDef got shredded with 20mm cannon shells while he was taking a crap.

But the MV-22 Osprey is a COMPLETE boondoggle that has needed a swift death for 25 years.

It is supposed to replace transport helos. It is a ‘tilt rotor’.

It has long range which sounds good. But it twice as fast as the Cobra escort helos and -half- as fast as the Harrier jump jets.

So it can’t be escorted when it is carrying @ 15-20 Marines. What’s wrong with -THAT picture?

Even if it worked properly, it should be cancelled.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Pulitzer Finalists Named…Cynthia Tucker - Atlanta Urinal Constitution

Any questions?

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By getalife

March 8, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Cynthia Tucker - Atlanta Journal Constitution” to win a Pulitzer

By Paul

March 8, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Flippity Flop

I looked at references, such as “Democratic bipartisanship” (after the up-or-down votes” or the “offer to give the Republican troop surge a year (actually, Gen Petraeus gets most of the “credit”)” as an interesting view of the record.

I saw many Dems in the midterm run against the Iraq war. Against Bush. Played to the “this war is a mistake and we need to end it.” Then came the election, it was a sweep - and we heard “gotta go slow, took a long time to get here, don’t like what the Pres’s doing, sent him a letter, gave him a talking-to, can’t cut the money ‘cause it’d endanger the troops (wrong). I saw everything but definitive action, which is what many expect.

Just so you know - I do not agree with the Democrat’s action. The Administration’s royally mismanaged the war. The military should also take their share of hits. I’m willing to give the Baghdad plan a chance - if it works, great. If it doesn’t - sayonara. But that is NOT the forum upon which Democratic candidates were elected.

I’m not implying the Democrats are stalling. I’m saying it’s a calculated political move to keep the war front and center. Democrats could call for the same vote to withdraw now, if they truly believe that’s in the best interest of the country. They could, but they won’t.

So I’m not sure what Democratic leadership think. Iraq’s a mistake. We had no business going in. It won’t get better. Delay costs lives. Everything the Administration proposes is wrong. They have the power to call for a withdrawal, but they won’t. Sounds like pure politics to me.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Midori has spent mucb of the day giving us her creds as a former member of the Army, and telling us how she loves Marines, yet she is trashing Cpl. Sanchez - who challenged Columbia University for it’s anti-military policies.

She is a walking, squawking sick and vulgar joke.

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

By getalife

March 8, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

OMG, I had the same post as Andy at the same time.

Scary.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Walt

I’ve pretty much quit listening to Olberman. He’s good at rhetoric and playing to the faithful, but as far as taking a position, offering supporting points, giving a reasoned analysis of the opponent - well, he sounds too much like his old partisan sportscaster days.

His hyperbole and speaking in absolutes shows his lack of journalistic training. That “could not have done more damage if he’d been in the pay of OBL” is good for a cheer but it’s just plain stupid. I normally don’t speak like that, but any cursory look at that statement from a cable commentator shows either a lack of reasoning or another calculated play to the faithful in the spirit of Ann Coulter (I used to think Al Franken was Ann Coulter in drag. Now I think it may be Olberman).

BTW - I once spoke with one of the senior VPs from Ford Aerospace in charge of development for Sgt York (which Weinberger (a Republican) cancelled). I asked him why, when N VietNam had had success with the ZSU 23-4 were they so pathetically incompetent. His response was they didn’t give it enough money or manpower. $7bil and that was his answer. It was professionally embarrassing.

By Walt

March 8, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

“Brilliant thinkin’, Randy… the terrorists “will lay low” — it’s a friggin’ civil war, Doofus! They’re gonna continue fighting whether we are there or not — our troops are convenient targets for both Sunni and Shia now!”

All one has to do to see the folly of us having guys in Iraq is imagine how much it costs us to project a 10 man foot patrol into Al Anbar and compare that to how much it costs the Shia or Sunni (including the Al Qaeda elements) to plant an IED made from a mortar or artillery round in the road.

Our cost is prohibitive, their’s is nil.

We can’t win a military victory.

Walt

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

{{I’m not implying the Democrats are stalling. I’m saying it’s a calculated political move to keep the war front and center.}}

And rightly so, Paul. The Dems have a very narrow margin in Congress now and need to keep “the war front and center” to try and bring enough Repubs around to their senses. At this point, the Dems don’t have enough votes to do anything against Dubya’s disastrous plans…

By Spam Stock

March 8, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Securities and Exchange Commission suspended trading on Thursday in the stocks of 35 small companies linked to spam e-mail campaigns urging small investors to buy shares.

Go SEC! I trash about a hundred of these suckers a week.

Republicans will beeyotch, though. They don’t want anything to interfere with the right of investors to buy toenail clippers for anacondas and other such nonsense.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

{{I’ve pretty much quit listening to Olberman. He’s good at rhetoric and playing to the faithful,}}

Walt— you need to ask Paul who he respects and listens to instead… his last name rhymes with “O-Lie-ly” and of course, there’s never any “rhetoric” coming from that mouth!

LMAO!

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Did any of you see Bill Maher’s smackdown of “Loofah Sponge” the other night? He went on the “ALL Spin Factor” show and Loofah Sponge was definitely not on his game that night!

By Walt

March 8, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish Sends……

“Midori has spent mucb of the day giving us her creds as a former member of the Army, and telling us how she loves Marines, yet she is trashing Cpl. Sanchez - who challenged Columbia University for it’s anti-military policies.”

Can you quote Midori to that effect. I didn’t see it.

I doubt if anyone in Cpl Sanchez’s unit realized he was “like that”.

Walt

By Paul

March 8, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Murtha just said he’s introducing legislation (or holding hearings, just caught the end of the broadcast) to close the terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo. Maybe he’ll come up with a good place to put them? Or what to do with them? I hope he’s not going to dial this back five years and treat this as a law enforcement matter. If he does he just might recommend transfer to the United States Penitentiary in Atlanta.

By Walt

March 8, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

“BTW - I once spoke with one of the senior VPs from Ford Aerospace in charge of development for Sgt York (which Weinberger (a Republican) cancelled). I asked him why, when N VietNam had had success with the ZSU 23-4 were they so pathetically incompetent. His response was they didn’t give it enough money or manpower. $7bil and that was his answer. It was professionally embarrassing.”

Well, there you go. And as I recall, the Sgt York used an ‘off the shelf’ radar from the F-16.

Maybe they had 150 retired colonels working on it.

Walt

By getalife

March 8, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

Yes, they are going after cheney

He will resign soon.

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, suggested that Gonzales’s status as the nation’s leading law enforcement officer might not last through the remainder of President Bush’s term, pointedly disputing the attorney general’s public rationale for the mass firings.

“One day there will be a new attorney general, maybe sooner rather than later,” Specter said at a committee hearing where a new round of subpoenas to the Justice Department was considered.

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

America rejects the right-wing freak show. “hands” O’Reilly and oxycontin are through. It’s only a matter of time. The Libby trial will do them in, among otherr things. Gen Petraeus called for a “political” solution to the Iraq War today on CNN. Turn off the lights, it’s over.

By Walt

March 8, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Paul allows:

“Maybe he’ll come up with a good place to put them? Or what to do with them?”

That must be done, right?

Did the Bush Administration plan to murder them all at some point?

Someone has to clean up the mess made by Bush’s handlers and supported by his idiot followers.

Walt

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

I SMELL RESIGNATION IN THE AIR.

IT WILL BE FOR MEDICAL REASONS

VP CONDI BY JUNE?

By Paul

March 8, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Goldie 3:53

Now that’s a decent point. But the 2008 thing strikes me as so coincidental. We’ll see how specific the candidates get ‘cause it’s landing square in their laps.

Goldie 3:57

That’s okay, you can ask me (remember what I said about going to the source?).

Mostly print columnists. US and elsewhere. I resist being an acolyte. I watch O’Reilly’s show (scan thru the recording looking for interesting guests) a couple times a week - Bill Mahr was on a couple nights ago. Unfortunately I’d deleted the episode without watching. (I gather from your 4:00 you watched? Careful, careful…) Cheney won’t appear - neither will Hillary. So they have something else in common. I don’t buy a lot of what he says - opposition to rehab for some in criminal system - but do agree with others - environmental positions, for example.

By IN THE NEWS

March 8, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

WILL IT BEFORE OR AFTER HE HAS TO TALK TO WAXMAN?

HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN PLANNING THIS? REMEMBER THE SHREDDER TRUCKS IN FRONT OF THE VEEPS HOSE?

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Getalife— thanks for the Kos update! Old Dick needs to resign… this is the perfect time for him to formally submit a resignation:

(1) pending fatal blod clot in his leg: (2) got caught leaking CIA info to reporters; (3) can’t go anywhere outside of U.S. without causing death and destruction.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Walt,

don’t pay Hagitha Danish any mind.

Her expertise includes butting into other’s conversations, and calling people who disagree with her “pet” names.

She is best ignored. Hopefully she will slither back to her lair and whip up another cauldron of brew to share with Dusty. That should keep them both busy enough to stay out of other’s conversations.

Goldie: Joe Scarborough played clips of Maher punking O’Reilly on his show last night.

Priceless!!! :)

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

-=-

I’m actually beginning to like Gen Petraeus. He’s definitly career military and has a brain too.

Thomas/PNAC

By getalife

March 8, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Goldie,

McGovern said w is worst than Nixon and this about cheney:

“What we have learned about how he has conducted himself leaves no doubt that he should be out of office,” McGovern says of Cheney. “If he had any respect for the Constitution or the country, he would resign.”

By Dusty

March 8, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

getalife and Goldie,

Would you mind telling us something illegal that Cheney has done? I don’t mean just rubbing liberals wrong. That’s not illegal.

You really think a blood clot is illegal?

What CIA leak to reporters? That was Armitage who did not work for Cheney.

You think a suicide bomber almost a mile away in Iraq was caused Cheney?

You are whistling in the wind as usual with no credibility whatsoever except to each other.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Peoples for a Nuked

Most of those guys - esp general officers - are very, very intelligent. There are a few “careerists” who would make you wonder how they got there (no different than private industry) - but in the main they’re highly educated, some are original thinkers, and a few like Petraeus stand out.

By Goldie

March 8, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

{{Bill Mahr was on a couple nights ago. Unfortunately I’d deleted the episode without watching. (I gather from your 4:00 you watched? Careful, careful…)}}

uber-Paul, of course we watched— Bill Maher rocks! And we frequently flip through different channels when Olbermann is on commercial break — it’s always a good laugh to see what ole Loofah is bloviating about.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

By SpammieAntiRadical March 8, 2007 3:55 PM WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Securities and Exchange Commission suspended trading on Thursday in the stocks of 35 small companies linked to spam e-mail campaigns urging small investors to buy shares. Go SEC! I trash about a hundred of these suckers a week.

Did Queen Spammie really just do an anti spam post?

Huh.

I guess it is true that what Spammie does is even lower than spam, I mean, sometimes people will respond to real spam.

I can’t ever remember Spammie bringing up a subject that started a conversation in the blog.

I guess people don’t want to talk about mindless bullsh-it.

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By Walt

March 8, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Dusty Sends:

“Would you mind telling us something illegal that Cheney has done?”

Treason.

Walt

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

It’s actually the perfect scenario.

Bush would nominate Rice for VP.

The drunken jack leg savages in the Senate, lead by Swimmer Kennedy and Mr. “Clean” would abuse and maul the woman in front of the entire planet, cementing their place in the hearts of the moonbats.

The American public would be appalled at this vile act of depravity and would never vote for another pinko ever again.

Rice would be Guiliani’s veep, credding up for 8 years and then sweep to the first black woman president in 16.

Republicans make history again!

We rock!

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By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Are you people all blogging from an asylum for idiots?

Walt says:

{{{By Walt

March 8, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish Sends……

“Midori has spent mucb of the day giving us her creds as a former member of the Army, and telling us how she loves Marines, yet she is trashing Cpl. Sanchez - who challenged Columbia University for it’s anti-military policies.”

Can you quote Midori to that effect. I didn’t see it.}}}

Apparently Walt missed these comments, one of which was directed to him:

{{{By Midori March 8, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this Old Fuddy Duddy, I was in the Army circa Gulf War I.

By Midori March 8, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this Hey, pleased to meet a kindred spirit, Walt :) I love Marines. :) Those guys are FEARLESS :)

By Midori March 8, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this Sorry Walt. My loss, I suppose :) I was in the Army, not Air Force :)}}

Walt,

Midori is telling you to ignore me for a reason. I expose her filth, lies and hypocrisy.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

Goldie

I was in delete mode on the DVR - I did see the following show where he was talking with Dennis Miller (another quick wit) and OR was asking Miller for a critique from a comedian’s perspective. OR said he understands BM really, really, really really hates Bush, but asked what good is accomplished by saying the things he says about Bush. Miller’s response was “because it’s funny.” OR opined BM was one of the people who’s more concerned about Global Warming than the War on Terror (not Iraq) - that would have been an interesting question.

I did watch OR on Colbert, and vice versa. I pretty much found it a waste of time - none of those guys get out of character long enough to have any kind of “don’t go for the laughs, put-downs or insults” meaningful discussion.

Just heard Pelosi at the top of the hour - speaking about “the strategic redeployment of US troops.” Yeah? Where? Who wants them? More politics. Unless she’s talking about redeploying to the continental US she’s following in Bush’s footsteps.

By Dusty

March 8, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Walt@4:54…

I am trying hard not to say that you are a pitiful pinhead. WHAT TREASON?

The definition of treason is in the American Constitution so you don’t have to make up one to suit your fancy.

Now again in reference to Cheney: WHAT TREASON?

By getalife

March 8, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I think your party has made enough history for the history books. All bad.

Rudy is a liberal.

Dummy.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Good Afternoon, Buy Danish

You do so well with ideas when you’re in your groove. Why bother with exposes?

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Paul: You really need to pay attention. I was in the wieght room and saw the same peice. Speaker Pelosi said we would redeploy to Afghanistan. But answer this question: Why is it those who want this war, don’t want to pay for it? Why is it ok to borrow from our children to make war? Don’t you agree if the war is so essential to our nation’s security, we should pay for it right now?

By Walt

March 8, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Buy Daanish:

“Midori is telling you to ignore me for a reason. I expose her filth, lies and hypocrisy.”

I don’t see any derogatory comments about Cpl Sanchez by her.

Can you back up your statement to that effect?

Walt

By Walt

March 8, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

“I am trying hard not to say that you are a pitiful pinhead. WHAT TREASON?”

Giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

By lying us into a war in Iraq, he did exactly what OBL wanted and predicted.

Walt

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Andy and @@,

How are your comments posting today? I have one comment that I have posted no less than 4 times now over a period of 2 hours, but it has yet to show up.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Dusty

Doesn’t sound consistent with Walt’s previous posts. It appears he’s left and someone else has taken over.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

Rudy is a conservative as far as I’m concerned.

City Journal goes into great detail of his magnificent and miraculous accomplishments as Mayor of New York.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

-=-

Hey Bun Danish,..

I think Walt was referring to the “trashing of Cpl. Sanchez.” part of your statement!

Time to go —

Drive safe yall’

Thomas/PNAC

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

BD: Perhaps you’re losing your mind?

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 8, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

-=-

concerning post Buy Danish —

I noticed post with more than 1 outside link tended not to get posted now..

FYI—

Probably has a flood inhibitor too..

Thomas/PNAC

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Danish: I’ve had no problems with posts since the other day. Try breaking it up into pieces and see which one gets rejected. It might be a link to some truth that they don’t want to get through.

By Dusty

March 8, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Two presidents have been impeached, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.

There’s your history for you. The Senate did acquit them but only after……

Don’t bother to say that Bush is next. He is not because he has done nothing illegal. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t count.

By Walt

March 8, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

If anyone is impersonating me, he sure is smart.

Walt

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

I love you.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Daniel

Thank you for your advice about paying attention - but the radio drones in the background while I’m working and I don’t catch every little bit.

Afghansitan? How nice. I wonder if that’s based upon some plan or if the Democrats are going even further into McNamara’s “they can’t bomb an outhouse unless I approve it” character.

Regarding the “paying” comment? Are you kidding? That’s not in the great American tradition. We don’t pay for anything in full - we put off paying for nearly everything - bonds for schools, Social Security for seniors, the list goes on and on.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish March 8, 2007 5:29 PM Getalife, Rudy is a conservative as far as I’m concerned.

Danish: getalife has been reprogrammed by DU and is no longer available. Apparently they’ve sent him out on a anti Giuliani mission, he’s fully loaded with all the latest talking points.

They’re scared of Rudy over there at the fever swamps, and rightfully so, he’ll reduce bull dy-ke Hillary to a pile of ash.

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By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Walt,

Because you’re an idiot lib who thinks Cheney committed “treason” you probably won’t “see” this even after I post it, but here goes - for the benefit of other readers if nothing else. Make special note of the last sentence:

{{{By Midori March 8, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

HAHAHAHA

Get this!!

Another “hero” of the right!!

What is it with you wingnuts and gay prostitutes??

Left-wing blogs gleefully outed my gay porn past after I criticized antiwar zealots. But the truth has set me free

Awwwww

Poor baby!!!

Next he’ll tell us that he sucks d-icks for Christ!!}}}

btw, I have responed to this filth no less than 4 times today, but is it mysteriously disappearing.

By getalife

March 8, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Looks like the AG will go next

BD,

Anti-gun, pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage is a con?

He is a liberal.

Geez.

By Walt

March 8, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

“I’m actually beginning to like Gen Petraeus. He’s definitly career military and has a brain too.”

Funny thing about Petreaus. Three years ago we heard that he was in charge of training the Iraqis and we heard the same sort of hype about what a miracle worker he was.

I haven’t seen any miracles about the Iraqi army yet, have you?

Walt

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Walt, good to have you back. Sounding more like the old Walt!

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Is that you at 5:20 or a nickjacker?

{{{By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Good Afternoon, Buy Danish

You do so well with ideas when you’re in your groove. Why bother with exposes?}}}

I don’t know WTF you or the jacker are talking about.

Andy,

Thanks for the tip. I’ll repost in sections.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

PART ONE:

PARROTS Midori and Goldie!

I knew it wouldn’t take you long to post some vile thread about Cpl. Sanchez

I was going to post a pre-emptive strike this morning but had to run out.

He really nails you vile, intolerant Leftists:

CONTINUED….

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

PART 2

Why did I become a conservative? Just look at what I left, and look at who is attacking me today. Let’s face it: Those on the left who now attack me would be defending me if I had espoused liberal causes and spoken out against the Iraq war before I was outed as a pseudo celebrity. They’d be talking about publishing my memoir and putting me on a diversity ticket with Barack Obama. Instead, those who complain about wire-tapping reserve the right to pry into my private life and my past for political brownie points

TO BE CONTINUED…

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

PART 3

Ugly and vulgar statements like this reveal what really lies in your barren hearts:

Next he’ll tell us that he sucks d-icks for Christ!! You have no concept of forgiveness, grace or redemption.

All you understand is hatred and revenge.

What a pity for you!

finis!!!!

By Walt

March 8, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Dusty Sends:

“Don’t bother to say that Bush is next. He is not because he has done nothing illegal.”

Bush is guilty of treason, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The only defense we have against Bush’s neo-con masters is making it plain to him that he faces prison for what he has done.

Walt

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Yeah, ‘twas me. Earlier I thought you’d written something about exposing some who appear to be on the ultra-Left. Selfish of me, perhaps, but I find it more interesting when you go back to discussing policy and ideas. But, I do realize, you gotta have a bit of fun every now and then -

By Walt

March 8, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Well, that pretty much is trashing Cpl Sanchez.

I’d guess that Bill O’lie-ly and the rest are hoping they washed their hands really well after shaking hands with him though.

And I can guarantee that some guys who served with him want to kick his a* on sight.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

Speaking of Cpl. Sanchez, I really do enjoy a dirty sanchez once in a while.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

Walt 5:53

Okay, there you go again. Could you kindly provide examples? Ones that would bear the scrutiny of a Fitzgerald?

By Dusty

March 8, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I think you may be right that Walt has left and we have an ID snatcher.

At least, the 5:37 seems to confirm that fact.

There’s a “swarm” of snatchers over at Wooten’s blog. It seems to be an afternoon invasion that happens almost every day in an effort to intimidate conservatives. More fun & games!!

By @@

March 8, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Daniel:

What Petreus said was that historically speaking, no war has ever been won with military might alone. Iraq will require political, economic, and military effort. There was one more, but I can’t recall.

Also, everyone continues to overlook Admiral Fallon, head of naval operations. He is an accomplished diplomat, and a very intelligent man.

As far as Pelosi’s statement. The subject of Iraq/Afghanistan was part of his original joint strategy. The one he presented to congress when they approved him. He has plans on both fronts, but they converge to his thinking.

Thomas:

Thanks for letting me know that you’re having problems with your posts too. When I go to the trouble to link text only to have it disappear, it’s frustrating to say the least.

Midori:

You’re 2:46…I have a brother, but he’s not Andy. I adore my brother, but he’s not Andy.

You’re an “odd bird” Midori.

By getalife

March 8, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Good point about Gen Petraeus Walt.

We have the gonzales, cheney, rove and w all under investigation.

It is snowballing and finally some accountabilty and oversight for this disaster.

Thank you Dems.

By Paul

March 8, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Dusty 6:04

Well, if you can’t win the war of ideas, try to intimidate. Must’ve learned from the profs at the universities - you know, where they teach ideas and free speech.

I’m off for the evening. Enjoy.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

March 8, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Paul,

???????????????????????

Please advise what post you “think” you are talking about.

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Paul: Isn’t that part of the problem? If the nation is threatened all of us should sacrifice. We aren’t. Why not? If we commit troops to combat we should pay for that commitment. Anything else is unethical and immoral. Do you agree?

By Bob

March 8, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Have you noticed the tone of the mentally inferior Repugs who live their lives on this blog? They’re more hysterical than usual. Crazed canaries in search of a cage! How revealing.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

March 8, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Walt,

Yes, Midori who supposedly is a tolerant liberal who supports gay rights, who claims to be a patriot, and is a former member of the Army who got a “good behavior award” did trash Cpl Sanchez and did make a particularly vulgar p**-on-Christ sort of statement.

You know, the sort of comment that if said about Mohammed would earn you a fatwa death warrant, and riots would erupt all over the world to protest the infidel.

As for your comment about how those who served with Cpl. Sanchez will react, you Libs really don’t have a clue how Conservatives think.

By Daniel

March 8, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Bob: They’re desperate. They got thumped in the last election. They’re scared. America is on to them. They fear ther worst. A lapse into unimportance. The Iraq War is their Waterloo. They have been caught in their lies. It’s killing them. The Libby Trial does them in. It is a great day for America. Perhaps, cooler heads in the republican party will retake it from the whack-jobs.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

what’s the matter, Hagitha?

scared there won’t be any left for you to suck?

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

March 8, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Bob, Clem, Jean et al,

GFY tub scum. Take Midori the filthy parrot who wrote this with you when you take your much needed bath:

Next he’ll tell us that he sucks d-icks for Christ!!

Andy,

In response to the Guiliani comment, Libs can’t imagine having a leader who is not 100% in lockstep with their rigid ideology.

That’s why Lieberman is an Independent now.

It’s not a scientific poll, but the fact that you and I both support him does not bode well for the Democrats.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Hagitha,

I am a helluva lot more tolerant than “you” ever was. Or were.

Go take your fake outrage and ram it.

Witch.

You may not be aware of the fact that no one is intimidated by you.

Stupid witch.

You have said things a thousand times worse than I.

Silly witch.

Go ride your broom off in the sunset.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Bob - you want mentally inferior?

Look around you.

The witch and her coven all slink and skulk in here to try to pass themselves off as enlightened.

All the time they are fooling no one - not even themselves.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

and you’re a filty witch, Hagitha.

Like I said, you’re just p** that all of the gay prostitutes in your party live it up better than you, and wouldn’t touch the likes of your wizened, crone body with a 20 foot pole.

Witch.

B*tch.

Idiot.

I can call names too - see?

I’ve been storing them up just for you, you simple minded, moran of a stupid witch b*tch.

By RW-(the original)

March 8, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

rushncap @ 2:21,

Among the many differences between you and me is that I read something and remember it. Now I certainly don’t remember when you made the Al Capone comment, but google would tell me that if there was any reason whatsoever to look it up. I do remember you making it and I would note that, the very same comment has been made by countless people over the years about any number of cases. I’m sure you think it’s a rushncap original and Joe Wilson is hanging on your every post for material for his next appearance. Sorry to inform you, but you’re just another unoriginal clod like Wilson. Oh and a self-admitted colander of knowledge. Try remembering something after the exam rushncap, it’ll serve you well if you ever come out into the real world.

Seventh grade book reports eh? It’s getting harder and harder to believe your claims of growing up under a tyrannical dictatorship.

By @@

March 8, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Gee Midori, it’s only Thursday.

Are you getting an early start on your Friday delivery?

By Midori

March 8, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Hagitha,

why are you worried about who sucks d-icks for Christ?

you suck them for Lucifer.

what’s your problem, witch?

By getalife

March 8, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

It the hypocrisy stupid

Here is another gop gay porn star who outed Clay Aiken

Geez.

By Buy Danish (The one and only)

March 8, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Bwahahahahahahahaha.

See Midori. See Midori Squawk.

Face it - Midori is a pig and a parrot. A new species altogether!

By @@

March 8, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Giuliani is looking good to me.

Poll Finds Giuliani Leads Clinton, Obama in 3 Key States

By getalife

March 8, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

@@,

Rudy is a liberal.

Geez.

By Midori

March 8, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Hagitha can dish it out, but she/it sure can’t take it.

Anus sucking filty witch of a banshee.

Bully a-ss crone of a toad licking hag.

You come on this blog, day after day, trying to intimidate people. Enough is enough.

Stupid witch, if you’ll note, you don’t scare or intimidate NO ONE!

NO ONE, Hag.

No matter how many names you call, no matter how many stupid posts you post from your idiot right wing blogs, no matter how many time you invoke the name “Gen. Petraeus”, you have intimidated no one and shut up no one.

The irony is you are the one who needs to shut the h-ell up.

I’ve had my fill of you, dried up filthy old hag.

and if you want to play that “Midori is calling names and is being vulgar” card, I GOT IT FROM YOU, HAG!!

Yes, YOU.

Anyone can go back and look at the archives.

Every time I’ve shown up on this blog, trying to be civil, YOU, B*TCH are the one who started with the name calling.

Go jump in a lake, witch.

Now that I’ve gotten this off my chest, I’ll bid your dried up stupid a-ss good night.

So go slime back to your cauldron and whip up somethiing to go on your chest.

No decent man go there, that’s for sure.

You silly hag of a banshee.

By LuckoDull

March 8, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Midori: I think Danish was right about what she said of you.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I bet a million mangoes that even Larry Flynt would find you disgusting and vulgar.

Your vile comment about Cpl. Sanchez had NOTHING to do with me - you made it all by yourself.

You’re crazy too - just like your friend Sybil Bon Scott Bon Finch.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

What shall we call this new species?

Parrotapig? Pigaparrot? Parrotaporcine? Porcinaparrot? Parrotaporcinavulgaris?

All entries will be considered.

By RW-(the original)

March 8, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Midori was completely vulgar and unhinged from the day this blog opened so she sure as hell didn’t get any of this garbage from you. The parrot projecting her “fowl” mouth on you is as ridiculous as finchie trying to blame Andy for the fact that bon/sara/finch/seneca/covert/mirror/seeker is a slobbering drunk that can barely get through a day without a public meltdown.

By Brian Curtis

March 9, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

This one’s for Dusty’s Distortion Machine:

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=22081

By The Watcher

March 9, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

Is it possible we will all be punished by the cartoon blog god because of the disgraceful behavior seen here last night?

By Peter

March 9, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Scooter - It doesn’t say what bill McDermott (WA-D) was able to get depleted uranium testing attached to and ultimatly passed with (after years of trying). What did the Republicans want so badly that they were willing to sell out? HR 2410 didn’t go anywhere on its own. It does seem odd that on the battle field DU is no hazard when it is tightly controlled otherwise. The officially reported benign nature of this cannot be believed.

HR 207 needs to pass to address combat related disabilities. Why don’t the Republicans step forward to co-sponsor the legislation?

Certainly all unused DU will be disposed of in Iraq rather than bringing it back to the States. (How immoral to dump it there or fight them there so we don’t have to endure any hardship at home.)

(Be mindful of the agent orange consequences in Vietnam decades later and the continuing landmine casualties still accumulating long after we left. History illustrates our legacy will endure in Iraq for generations.)

By @@

March 9, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Well Watcher….since there’s no new cartoon to comment on, I arrive this morning with a gift for Midori.

She hit her head on the ceiling last night. Maybe this will help bring her down.

Pretty huh?

By Goldie

March 9, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

Ha! Good toon, Brian C.— Dubya’s cult followers always try to equate any criticism of him with insulting our troops. What a sad bunch — love their ideology, hate America.

By Paul

March 9, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Brian 8:25

The entire idea of criticism of an Administration’s policies is “criticizing the troops” is fallacious. As is opposing and Administration’s policies yet not taking prompt action by using the excuse “we support the troops.” For the most part, it’s a hollow phrase and is used to avoid real debate.

Someone here gave what I thought was a great definition - it was along the lines of “support them by not committing them to combat without a clear national interest… public support… a plan to leave…” Some accept those qualifications - even when they realize they were first enunciated by a Republican SecDef and repeatedly referred to by ex SecState Powell.

By LuckoDull

March 9, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

Maybe cartoon boy considers this rag drawing to be one of his all time masterpieces, and wants to leave it up for a few more days as a monument to himself?

Or maybe the Urinal staff had a wild drunken orgy over Queen Pinko’s nomination for a pulitzer “prize?”<———————!!

I wonder if there were any extra marital affairs at last night’s orgy?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

The Watcher,

I, for one, do not believe in group punishment.

Midori (parrotisporcinisvulagaris) is solely responsible for her own vulgar and unhinged comments.

She did do a fine job of illustrating how utterly deranged the far Left is.

Maybe John Edwards could hire her to replace Amanda Marcotte.

Later folks…

By The Watcher

March 9, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

I read the whole days worth of posts.

It is perfectly clear that Midori is not the only one guilty.

You are guilty also. Regularly

Or does WTF stand for Why Try Frankfurters?

You could try to set a good example.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

The Watcher,

I’m sorry, but there is no comparison to using an acronym like WTF or BFD and using the vile and vulgar language Queen Parrot employed, which began with making a disgusting reference to Christ.

It is Midori’s SNAFU. You do know how SNAFU translates, don’t you?

Moreover, Mike Lucovich argued that the Muslim cartoons shouldn’t be published because they “poke a finger in the eye” of Islam. Those cartoons were rated G compared to Midori’s allusions.

I breathlessly await the Pulitzer Prize winning AJC to voice similar concerns over words that defile Christianity at Mike Luckovich’s blog by one of his biggest supporters.

I really am going out now…Later.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

-=-

Buy Danish is just “misunderstood”!

http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/articles/peanuts5.jpg

-=-

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Since the server is already acting up, I am posting this for a second time. I apologize if it appears twice.

The Watcher,

I’m sorry, but there is no comparison to using an acronym like WTF or BFD and using the vile and vulgar language Queen Parrot employed, which began with making a disgusting reference to Christ.

It is Midori’s SNAFU. You do know how SNAFU translates, don’t you?

Moreover, Mike Lucovich argued that the Muslim cartoons shouldn’t be published because they “poke a finger in the eye” of Islam. Those cartoons were rated G compared to Midori’s allusions.

I breathlessly await the Pulitzer Prize winning AJC to voice similar concerns over words that defile Christianity at Mike Luckovich’s blog by one of his biggest supporters.

I really am going out now…Later.

By The Watcher

March 9, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Buy Danish

Thank you for making my case.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Watcher,

yes, I used over the top language yesterday and other days.

And I take full responsiblity.

I was just sick and tired of that crazy hypocritical woman and her crazy hypcritcal name calling.

Unlike her, I take responsibility for my actions.

And Hag - I’m not backing down.

Your’e a disgusting POS.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Thomas,

that is a spot on, perfect illustration of the Hag.

By P. Davis

March 9, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Mr. Luckovich has bravely portrayed the most serious offense of President Bush; using the troops as props. The specious argument of keeping the war “over there” so it doesn’t come over here reduces the value of our troops to pawns sacrificed to protect the valuable players. Like pawns, there is a finite number and wasting them is foolhardy. Unlike pawns, these are real people with real families from a limited segment of our society who are suffering greatly so the rest of us can live (at this point) as if nothing significant is happening. In the meantime, a behind- the-scenes shift in our economy is happening to benefit those few whose funds are in corporations directly profiting from the war.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

RW,

don’t you have someone to stalk?

or, some obscure 1980 web logs to pore through?

or, some silly, no-point poll to post?

By @@

March 9, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

(((By getalife March 8, 2007 7:01 PM)))

(((@@,)))

(((Rudy is a liberal.)))

(((Geez)))

No Getalife, Rudy is a “Republican”.

Exactly the kind that true conservatives and independents are looking to elect.

I’ve always enjoyed the Brit’s humor. This post may extend beyond the 2500 word limit, so Brit’s humor will continue into next post…

By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

@@,

when I confront the moronic, It’s a meltdown.

when your hag friend, and your, yourself in all your pathetic glory do it, it’s “right on”.

Go find some children to talk to.

You’re more on their level.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Stalk — about your yesterday’s post. You’re right, there are a lot of differences between us. Thankfully I don’t seem to be anything like you.

I never claimed my Capone analogy to be original. You made that up, either because you think you’re witty or because you’re an inveterate liar. I’ll let you figure out which one I vote for.

Also, I don’t give a flying fig about what you think about my “upbringing”. I have never lied on this board, your belief systems are up to you.

By Goldie

March 9, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Dear Webmaster — we need today’s Luckovich please!

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

-=-

Hah ha ha ha ha —

Is RW trying to be Pious and say he is as clean as the driven snow on this board and that he, BD, Andy, etc. do not use curse words, name calling, and childish expetives on the blog?

Oh please!

I know of very few who are not guilty here in that regard!

RW, BD, And Andy Debating what they can do to “Support The Troops”

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=19300

Thomas/PNAC

By getalife

March 9, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

@@,

Rudy dresses in drag, his son hates him, married three times, anti-gun, pro-gay marriage, corrupt with Kerik and pro abortion.

By all means run him.

The Dems will have total power in 08 with a bigger majority.

By Craig

March 9, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

As far as I can tell RW made two comments yesterday and none so far today, but there are about twenty talking about him. You liberals are completely obsessed.

By @@

March 9, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

Midori:

I’ve always found it amusing that the liberals here want us scold our own.

I’ve always seen it as a rather childish request.

There’s a big difference in what you post and what Buy Danish posts.

In your attempts to get attention, you often post vulgarities which fall beneath the lowest of lows.

I’ve never seen Buy Danish use the “c” word. You have. I’ve never seen her discuss “sucking Ds” other than to say Democrats suck. I’m pretty sure she’s talking about “sucking wind”.

I’d have to agree with her on that.

By Goldie

March 9, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

{{Like pawns, there is a finite number and wasting them is foolhardy. Unlike pawns, these are real people with real families}}

Your post was well stated, P.Davis!

By getalife

March 9, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Midori,

They are children.

They think it is fun making people get angry with them.

Andy plays silly games with people’s id’s.

Sometimes I wonder if they are the children @@ teaches.

By getalife

March 9, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Craig = RW.

See what I mean?

By getalife

March 9, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

And then they go to RW’s blog to discuss how they made the posters here mad.

Silly children.

Geez.

By getalife

March 9, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

“Convicting Libby of perjury was like convicting Al Capone of tax evasion. It doesn’t mean they were not guilty of other crimes.”
— Joe Wilson

Geez.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

@@,

I think I love you. Don’t be surprised. My name is Bi Danish.

By Paul

March 9, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

@@ 10:08

Nice about Rudy being the type “true conservatives and independents” want to elect. (Don’t you just love how we’re all on a first-name basis with the candidated? Thank you, Hillary!). It does seem to be shaking out that those who call attention to, question, repeat, and go at it again about Rudy’s personal life are:

1) Family values Republican conservatives and

2) Liberal Democrats.

I’m not quite sure what to make of that. I know it couldn’t be something as mundane as Lib Dems wanting to harp on another’s “flaws” - that wouldn’t be good for Rudy’s self-esteem. I guess it must be heartfelt - so Liberal Dems and FV Cons Reps have more in common than anyone would’ve guessed.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

@@,

you pathetic little troll.

@@,

you simple minded twit.

@@,

you moronic witch in training.

Go preach your piety elsewhere.

You have as much credibility as your heros Guiliani and Bush when it comes to “rules of civility”.

Go jump in a lake.

Dry off. No, hold that one.

And jump in again.

Baptize your mind and body, clear yourself of your lunacy, hypocrisy and ignorance, then look me up.

By IN THE NEWS

March 9, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

WHATS MORE SCARY

PROSECUTERS FIRED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GIVE IN TO PRESSURE

OR THE ONES THAT DID NOT GET FIRED…. WHAT THE HELL HAVE THEY BEEN UP TO?

MAKES YOU WONDER>

By Dusty

March 9, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Curtis,

I am glad you enjoy penguins and cute little things to make your point. Did you enjoy today’s comics? Perhaps they might also help explain your politics. I am not into the wild life and wilderness of liberal politics.

I do admit,however, most anything would be better than the stuff splattered on this blog yesterday. Since the webmaster is blind and backwards, nothing is done about it. But this is the Luckovich Liberal wide latitude blog. I shouldn’t be surprised.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

I know, Getalife.

I’ve been onto the witches and her coven for some time.

Yet when people come back at them and expose thier stupidity, they want to get all huffy and try to declare themselves above the fray.

RW also likes to scour old, useless, insignificant blogs in order to get “ammo” on people here.

I’ve never seen so many out of touch people in my life.

Yet “they” claim that “they” are the pious ones.

@@ is an insignificant knat.

Much like gum stuck to the bottom of my shoe.

The best way to deal with her is to scrape it off, and continue to move on.

By Giuliani for President

March 9, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Come on guys, don’t let these idiots discover that Giuliani is a liberal. I’m a liberal and he looks a lot more liberal than what the Democrats are offering up so far! In order to get a liberal into office, it looks like I’m going to have to vote Republican in 2008.

By @@

March 9, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

I’m just gonna have to leave you hanging on my continued post. I’ve reduced the word count, broken it up, done everything I could possibly do to post it here. My patience is gone.

….and Getalife, noone can MAKE another person become angry, it’s the individual’s personal choice to “react” with anger.

You are very good at “not reacting”.

By IN THE NEWS

March 9, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

GUESS WHAT THE BUSHIES ARE GETTING OSAMA BIN LADEN FOR HIS 50TH BIRTHDAY TODAY?

PROBABLY ANOTHER 2006 DAYS (at least) OF FREEDOM

WANTED WHAT? OR ALIVE

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

-=-

A true bit of Wisdom!

http://www.troubledtexan.com/images/incontrol.gif

This is something everyone should never forget!

Thomas/PNAC

By Pacifier

March 9, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

QUIT CRYING MIDORI.

YOU ARE A BIG BABY.

TAKE A TIMEOUT.

SIT IN THE CORNER FOR A WHILE.

TAKE A NAP.

IF NONE OF THOSE WORK, TRY SUCKING YOUR THUMB.

By @@

March 9, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Paul:

The liberals are using the very things that they promote to discredit Giuliani. Their vision of conservatives is definitely skewed.

Giuliani’s “blended family” problems are something a lot of Americans can identify with. I thought he responded to THAT attack very well.

My husband is a “hardline” conservative, but even he says he’ll vote for Giuliani before he’d vote for a “weak on national defense” hysterical Democrat.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

This is interesting:

Firefighters slam Giuliani

By getalife

March 9, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

At least Rudy is Italian.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Dusty — so you want the AJC to censor this blog? Because what? your fragile little mind can’t handle it? Let’s face it: if you didn’t like “filth” and mud-slinging and childish insults, you would not be on here to begin with. Can we at least cut the hypocrisy?

By Midori

March 9, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

@@, RW,

I’ll try to take your 11:07 to heart.

NOT!!!

Guiliani is nothing more than another Bush suck-up loser.

Pure and simple.

speaking of conservative “values”

Ole Rudy and Newt can start their own village. Among them they have had at least 7 wives.

How very “conservative”.

By RUDY PATOOTIE

March 9, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

@@

you “miscomprehend”….

liberals aren’t trying to discredit rudy.

his actions did that.

we are astounded how quickly the original “faith and values” crowd overlook his behavior.

no nookie in the oval office, but ok at gracie mansion. it just seems odd.

By @@

March 9, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

The 2008 elections are a long way out.

Conservatives have patience.

I didn’t know we had another Reagan appearing on the horizon. We conservatives loved “Our Ronnie”.

Another Hollywood star steps forward for GOP

Supporters have begun comparing Thompson to President Reagan, a likeness bolstered by the latter’s acting career. Republican officials in Tennessee already have begun talking up Thompson.

This is sooooo cool.

Go away Midori, I won’t bite.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

-=-

LOL @ Getalife (11:16am)

At Least he’s Italian —

Makes this Tom Tomorrow somewhat Ironic!

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=19851

-=-

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

I see our @@ is embracing, with open arms, one of the more egregious hypocrisies of the right wing: “Hollywood stars should just shut the hell up! (unless they are Republican, in which case, please, run for office)”. What’s mind-boggling to me is that no one has ever called them on that.

By Paul

March 9, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

@@

Saw a nat’l poll last week - didn’t save the article, was on a trip - asked many self-identified Reps who’d they’d vote for.

Answer was Giuliani. When asked if they knew about many elements of his personal life, most said “no.” They were then informed - the stuff you read here - and were asked if they’d change their vote. Most said “no.”

He doesn’t appear to have a credible Rep challenger. If the Dems are going to run against him on “family values” (!) and avoid policy discussions, well, there goes the White House. Unless Obama’s the Dem candidate. From his writings he’s not big on that sort of thing. Then we’d have an interesting race.

By Goldie

March 9, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

Midori @ 11:14— thanks for the Rudy link! I’ve heard lots o’ stories about how New Yorkers felt about him on Sept. 10th, but now to know that his firefighter “constituents” see thru his campaign BS today is just mahvelous!

It’s a beautiful day in da neighborhood…

By getalife

March 9, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

@@,

You can blame Andy for the changes on this blog.

I do not get mad, just disappointed in fellow Americans.

Right now, the FBI is admitting abusing the Patriot act. Plame will testify in Congress about her outing, Gonzales is about to lose his job over the judge firings. The Iraq disaster continues cutting hospital care. Latin America is protesting w’s visit. It just gets and worse and will never get better for a very long time.

I am disgusted.

By LuckoDull

March 9, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Daily Kos postings have included the word “f*” at least three times in recent years, as have other liberal blogs — without apology, and without generating a furor.

Hypocrites.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Dusty

March 9, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

awww rushncap,

Please don’t confuse your “values” with mine. I don’t read and post on this blog to hear something that sounds like the words of a proverbial drunken sailor.

Political discussion is much more interesting, even as I DISAGREE WITH LIBERALS.

AJC supposedly has some standards for their blogs. I would like for them to remember their own rules.

By bon scott

March 9, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original wanker) - March 8, 2007 8:05 PM The parrot projecting her “fowl” mouth on you is as ridiculous as finchie trying to blame Andy for the fact that bon/sara/finch/seneca/covert/mirror/seeker is a slobbering drunk that can barely get through a day without a public meltdown.

Don’t tell me your in the Smirnoff for Breakfast club too! I never blamed Andy for me being in the gutter club. Which I am most definitely not! I’d call myself a cheap date but I’m married. I merely speculated upon Andy’s steady decline in literacy and logic as the day went on.

And one day you’ll have to tell me about these Sara-Mirror-covert people. I admit it,you have me stumped.

Don’t take it personally Andy. I’m just responding to an earlier post by the pompous, humorless one. I’m sure you’re as straight as an arrow today and from now on I will do nothing to bring up old demons. Unless you do first.

Nice cartoon ml!! No President has ever used the photo op and screened audiences as effectively as our moron-in-chief. That Rove is a genius when it comes to warping the truth.

And how conservatives can flock to a guy like Giuliani who favors legal abortion and opposes the death penalty is beyond me. Rudy’s only claim to fame is that he happened to be Mayor of NY on 9/11. Very much like Bushies only claim to fame. Being “President” on 9/11.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

-=-

Andy Dull has to defend his Love’ Coulter.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/coulterattackneocon.jpg

-=-

By Lord Doom

March 9, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Goldie is Midori and Dusty is @@.

By Goldie

March 9, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

{{Rudy’s only claim to fame is that he happened to be Mayor of NY on 9/11. Very much like Bushies only claim to fame. Being “President” on 9/11.}}

Kiss-kiss, Bon Scott!

By Paul

March 9, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

bon scott

A number of conservatives (principles of government) can support Giuliani because they aren’t hung up on personal views or private life - or recognize that Presidents don’t have all that much influence over abortion, or realize that the application of the death penalty is problematic and are flexible with views towards criminal justice.

Democrats should adjust to that - telling voters they’re stupid for supporting a candidate doesn’t exactly entice them to vote for someone else. Rather like telling someone who drives a 2 1/2 ton SUV to work everyday that they’re an irresponsible idiot and the reason we’re in the Middle East. Just makes them dig in their heels. At least, that’s what I hear -

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

-=-

Yes Rudy for President!

He looks great in Drag!` (lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

Maybe Trump should be VP..

-=-

By @@

March 9, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

The “Blame Game” and the “Name Game”; haven’t sung either since I grew up.

rushncap:

There are actually Hollywood celebrities that I “DO” take seriously. Those would be the conservatives that present “THEIR VIEWS” seriously.

Not the “hysterics” of Sarandon (her husband whats his name), Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin. Puhleeeeze, who can take them seriously?

Fred Thompson served in the Senate from 1994 to 2003. I think I recall him leaving because he was tired of all the political haggling.

I like Thompson. I enjoy the way he offers simple and direct responses to Sam Watterson’s liberal hysteria on “Law & Order”.

I’m not sure he’ll run, but he’s an interesting prospect.

By Lord Doom

March 9, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Goldie(Midori),

President Bush did an excellent job handling 9/11. Its not just that he was in office at the time, but also the way he responded to the crisis. One of your homocrats would not have done as good a job.

By Dusty

March 9, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Is there somethng wrong about being proud of the leadership of Giuliani during 9/11?

Is there something wrong about being proud of the leadership of George W. Bush during 9/11?

I get a little tired of the loss of memory by liberals on the strength of these two men during a time of crisis.

I am also tired of liberal forgetfulness that terrorism reaches around the world and right now is concentrated in Iraq.

Withdraw? That is just another word for retreat. Giuliani didn’t go for it. Bush didn’t go for it. They still don’t.

Yep, dig up your scandals. I still want a leader who doesn’t flinch, not a political windmill that turns with the wind. Giuliani has displayed that strength.

By @@

March 9, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Lord Doom:

I am not Dusty. I have great appreciation for the word “F*#@”.

Dusty would never even entertain the word.

By Lord Doom

March 9, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

@@,

You don’t appreciate the word Fu@k like Doom does. You must show more pride when you use it.

By IN THE NEWS

March 9, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

DID YOU SEE THAT NEWTIES FIRST WIFE WAS HIS HIGH SCHOOL MATH TEACHER?

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ABOUT?

By getalife

March 9, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Yes, that crap he spewed on the bullhorn was just another broken promise.

Failed leadership.

By Nomad

March 9, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

I agree Dusty. Giulani has more backbone that Clinton and Obama combined.

NOMAD

By IN THE NEWS

March 9, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

NOW THEY ARE EATING THEIR OWN

Two familiar faces will soon be dogging Senator John McCain on the campaign trail, as activist Vietnam Veterans Jerry Kiley and Ted Sampley resume a campaign they have conducted for years against the Arizona Republican and former prisoner of war.

Jerry Kiley filed papers last week to establish the nonpartisan group Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain. “When people truly get to know him, there’s no possibility they’ll consider him for president of the United States,” says Kiley, who served in the Army and completed the Internal Revenue Service paperwork to establish the “527” group.

By RE

March 9, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Bush leadership on 9-11.

What are you talking about, you mean the guy who when he heard that the nation is under attack sat in a school room for 12 minutes before doing anything?

No Leadership there, only cowardice.

Rudy on the other hand was a leader. He kept control as much as was possible and did not hesitate to act. You can question the decision of having the HQ in the heart of the biggest terrorist target in NY, but he was a great mayor and a real leader during difficult times

By IN THE NEWS

March 9, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

NO CRONY GOES WITHOUT A JOB

Ex-Navy official protests Swift Boat funder’s nomination. Today in the Washington Times, Wade Sanders — former deputy assistant secretary of the Navy, decorated former swift boat skipper, and combat veteran — has an op-ed attacking President Bush’s nomination of Sam Fox to be ambassador to Belgium: “And as a military man, it doesn’t matter much who is being attacked — John McCain, Max Cleland, John Kerry, or Jack Murtha — I just don’t believe that assaults on the military records of veterans belong in our politics.”

By RUDY PATOOTIE

March 9, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Yep Rudy’s got the bone.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

The Watcher,

I did not make your point, and you’re saying that I did does not make it so. It doesn’t surprise me that you can’t comprehend the difference between talking about suing Christ’s D* and using an acronym like SNAFU or STFU. Liberals operate under the moral equivalency tent which doesn’t allow people to make reasonable judgements.

The fact is that Midori posted her vulgar, hateful, and profane comments before I had posted a thing yesterday (other than one comment where I mentioned that posts were disappearing).

She is fully responsible for her own statements, and her half-baked, disingenuous apology and childish excuses are not convincing – at least not to me.

She immediately used the “But you do it too!” argument, which is not only false, it is an indication of someone not fully taking responsibility for their own actions.

@@,

I don’t know that I’ve even used the phrase “Democrat’s suck”, but I suppose it’s possible.

Midori said!:

{{{Baptize your mind and body, clear yourself of your lunacy, hypocrisy and ignorance, then look me up.}}}

Midori,

I hope you take your own advice. You are sorely in need of cleansing. A professional may need to help you with your lunacy problem.

The next step is understanding the message of forgiveness and redemption. Yesterday you unleashed hatred at Cpl. Sanchez because of his past, ignoring the fact that he voluntarily rejected his past and made profoundly positive changes in his life.

Liberals hate conservatives because we actually have ideals that we strive to live by in the first place, and you think that there is something hypocritical about people who don’t live up to the ideals which you reject altogether.

Before you claim again that I am being pious, remember that it was you who made the baptismal analogy, not me.

LuckoDull,

Great link on the “F” word.

Getalife,

You’re really operating from a point of desperation if you think that a photo of Rudy appearing in a comedy skit will sink his hopes for the Presidency.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

I don’t know about more backbone, but Rudy certainly has more dresses than Hillary.

By Lord Doom

March 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

RE,

Why do you punks keep making a big deal out of absolutely nothing? What was Bush suppose to do? Scare the hell out of all the children in the room? What the hell difference does 12 fu$king minutes make after a global terrorist attacks America?

That excuse is just a political ploy created by a democratic media. If they didn’t mention it, you and other $hit heads wouldn’t have even noticed it because its nothing. Hesitate to act? Where was he supposed to launch an attack? From the chalkboard or the playground?

What did he do after 12 g******* minutes a*******wipe?

By Daniel

March 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Ya gotta luv it! Now, the knuckleheads are embracing Rudy. Do they know he slept around on his wife? Do they know he had a boyfriend before he had a girlfriend? He supports gay rights? Pro-choice? Who cares. Maybe he can beat the democrat.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

-=-

Speaking of Rudy!~

The new Mike L’ Toon is up!

-=-

By Midori

March 9, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Keep ranting Hag, so that the world will know how mad you are.

Why don’t you just cast a couple of spells for Watcher, rather than bore him and us with your Hag manifesto?

You’re just a bully insignificant witch of a hag, who loves to call people names but can’t take what you dish out.

HAG!!

HAG!!!

HAG!!!!!!

HAG!!!!!!!!!!!

By The Watcher

March 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

You would not be offended then if instead of the those 3 words, the phrase had been typed in as SCD? An acronym does not make inappropriate language polite speech.

Midori publically took responsibility for her outburst. I have not seen you display the same integrity.

And never doubt I understand completely the persona you assume when you blog here.

Remember, I watch.

By Bad Spirits

March 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

GUATEMALA CITY - Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate “bad spirits” after President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday.

“That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture,” Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

Disgust with the rule of King George has fueled the resurgence of socialism around the world but especially in Latin America. Hell, even the Mayan indians think America is diseased and needs to be purified, now.

Republicans have done more to destroy american good will, democracy and freedom than Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, and Ho Chi Minh put together! Societies of the world now recognize autocrats and fascists instinctively, they see Bush and the Neos for the totalitarians they are.

By KATHERINE HARRIS

March 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Don’t tell anybody but I post here as Buy Danish.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Do you think you could learn to exercise a bit of self-control, or does Parrotaporcinabovinavulgaris have a terminal case of Mad Cow disease that causes you to froth at the mouth and rave like a lunatic?

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Nice admission there, @@: “I take SOME Hollywood actors seriously — the conservative ones”. Brilliant.

Ever wonder why no one takes YOU seriously?

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

The Watcher,

Review time:

{{{By Midori

March 9, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Watcher,

yes, I used over the top language yesterday and other days.

And I take full responsiblity.

I was just sick and tired of that crazy hypocritical woman and her crazy hypcritcal name calling.

Unlike her, I take responsibility for my actions.

And Hag - I’m not backing down.

Your’e a disgusting POS.}}}

That^^^^ is not an apology, it is an excuse - and a pathetic one at that.

No sooner does she state that she takes “full responsibility” she goes on to blame me for her actions.

I did not incite her make a comment about sucking on Christ’s D* - I hadn’t even commented at that point. That profane comment was a Midori original, that only a very demented person could imagine, nevermind utter -on a public blog no less.

Furthermore, I did not have an “outburst”. I have nothing to apologize for.

I don’t know what SCD stands for. I made a relevant point about the word SNAFU. Nobody in their right mind would claim that that is a vulgarity. You are grasping at straws trying to defend the indefensible by pretending that my comments and Midori’s have anything in common.

Finally, I have no idea what your point is here:

{{{And never doubt I understand completely the persona you assume when you blog here.

Remember, I watch.}}}

Are you trying to tell me that you work for the AJC???????

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Bad Spirits,

Don’t tell me - you’re an Atheist, but you think religious rituals about evil spirits are kinda cool when it is to “purify ancient lands” from the Eeeeeevil Bush demon.

Yawn.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Reagan was the Governor of the Totalitarian State of California before he ran for President.

As @@ pointed out, Thompson served in the Senate. I dare say he has more experience that your Lemming Leader Obama.

That being said, I don’t care for Thompson myself.

Now if you can tell us what experience governing Hollywood actors like Sarandon have…

By @@

March 9, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

Conservatives in Hollywood are more reasonable in their approach. The liberal celebrities that the extreme left focuses on do the party no service.

There are Democratic celebrities that are more reasonable, but they aren’t given the exposure.

That’s not my fault.

Just so you’ll know. I’ve tried eight different times to post a worthwhile link here and at the new cartoon. It has yet to appear. Anything trivial, like this one flies. The others are being consistently shot down by the server.

Maybe you consider that good news.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Muff, we all know what the “F” in SNAFU stands for. If you don’t think it’s a vulgarity…. oh well, nothing you lie about surprises me any more.

By The Watcher

March 9, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

You continue to make my point.

You have two sets of standards. One for yourself, one for everyone else.

There is no surprise in your lack of comprehension. Nor in your paranoia.

You are an interesting subject.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

@@, I’m sure you think anyone who agrees with you is “more reasonable”. Unfortunately for you this does not lessen your hypocrisy. Either Hollywood should shut up, and that means all of them (including Reagan and Heston), or they should be allowed to voice their opinion, including those who you disagree with. It’s called a democracy, get used to it.

I frankly don’t care about your link. If you wish me to cry over it, you’ll have to walk away disappointed. This blog’s administrator can regulate it as he (or she) sees fit. They don’t owe you or me anything.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

prissy rushncap,

You’re telling me that the word SNAFU is vulgar?

The Watcher,

Gosh, you know, I believe you. To a liberal, making a comment about sucking Christ’s d** is no worse than saying, “The AJC had a snafu with it’s servers again today”.

/SARC.

And to think that you Libs claim to be experts on “nuance”.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Muff, “SNAFU” is not a word. It’s an acronym for 5 words. One of them is vulgar, the F one. You do do know what the term “acronym” means, right Muff?

By Paul

March 9, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Good Afternon, Buy Danish

Just a followup to a question you’d asked after I’d signed off regarding what I was referring to when I’d written “You do so well with ideas when you’re in your groove. Why bother with exposes?”

I was referring to your note to Walt:

Midori is telling you to ignore me for a reason. I expose her filth, lies and hypocrisy.

But thought you might be interested - heard on the radio after lunch O’Reilly’s going to have a piece tonight about Russia selling arms to Syria and Iran, washing the sales through Belarus to hide their involvement. Some here will ask “So?” - especially the “everything in the Middle East is America’s fault” crowd, so consider:

France stalled and opposed decisive action against Iraq, even in situations where its own ultimatums were violated. After the war we find France was deeply involved in the Oil for Food corruption case, as well as violating UN sanctions by selling millions of dollars of weaponry to Iraq.

Now Russia’s stalling inspections, actions, etc against Iran. Let’s see - they help build nuc facilities, then sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of one of the most sophisticated antiaircraft missile systems to Iran - then backdoor additional arms sales - and people wonder why they’re stalling?

Of course, when a few weeks ago Pres Bush made comments about “business and money trumping the international interest” many here construed it to mean he supported American big business over America’s interests - any spin is good spin if it’s anti-Bush - but - you may want to watch the show tonight.

By THE WATCHER

March 9, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish

You persist in altering definitions. I watch you do that frequently.

There is a significant difference between tolerating a persons vulgar behavior and approving of it.

Perhaps you should investigate the term SNAFU more carefully.

You fascinate me.

You may have the last word here today. Make it a good one, I’ll be watching.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Watcher,

Here are a few definitions for you astonishingly clueless Libs who think nothing of making profane, blasphemous, and sacrilegious statements:

Profane - Marked by contempt or irreverence for what is sacred.

Blasphemous - Impiously irreverent.

Sacrilegious - Grossly irreverent toward what is or is held to be sacred.

Snafu is none of those things.

Perhaps Midori can show us all what specific comment I made that led her to make her disgusting, vile, vulgar, and profane statement yesterday?

That could keep her busy for the rest of her life.

By @@

March 9, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

O.K., no problem….as long as the “shot down posts” are distributed equally among liberals AND conservatives.

Let’s see if I can explain this without the links.

Democrats AND Republicans alike have put the screws to Musharraf, telling him that we should be able pursue Al Qaeda and the Taliban within Pakistan, and that if he won’t restrict the borders, we will.

Within the last two days, two military helicopters, NATO w/Afghani troops, landed inside Pakistan and picked up some guy named Hakimullah Mehsud, an aide to Baitullah. Baitullah being a key Taliban tribal leader.

The Pakistan government claimed ignorance of such a landing, and at the same time is sending their own military forces with barbwire to cut off the border.

It sounds to me like NATO forces have been granted access into Pakistan, and Pakistan is bending to pressure from coalition forces.

These are the behind-the-scene strategies that interest me. Just thought some others might find them interesting.

Also, Al Qaeda is very put out with specific Taliban leaders. They’ve broken off ties with them, and consider them their enemies.

I’d drag it over to the new toon, but at this point, it feels like day old bread.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Watcher,

I know what the acronym snafu stands for, jackass. That does not change the fact that the word is commonly used, is not considered a vulgarity, and is in no way, shape, or form profane.

Next you’re going to be telling me that “darn it” is vulgar too.

GMAB.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Watcher,

check out the Wooten blog, and Hag Danish cheering on a foaming-at-the-mouth, overly rude, sputtering nutjob called Markus.

Hag Danish: go find something to suck. It might do wonders for your disposition.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Paul, no one is arguing that USSR / Russia is up to its elbows in business in the Middle East, including arms. Are you saying that up until it was less convenient, America was not? You mean to tell us Reagan didn’t sell arms (illegally) to Iran? That he didn’t supply Iraq with weapons to combat Iran (including chemical weapons)? That he didn’t arm the Afghan mujahedeen? The point here isn’t “blame America first”. It’s the ever-Biblical “remove log from own eye before taking on a splinter in your neighbor’s”. America is not the only nation responsible for that mess, certainly. But it’s also not blameless either.

By @@

March 9, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

O.K., let’s see if this one gets in.

ml, I tried posting my personal take without the link. Giving everybody a look into some behind-the-scene strategy that may be taking place between Pakistan/Afghanistan/NATO.

Can I be anymore vague?

I find strategy intriguing.

I guess your webserver doesn’t find it intriguing enough to let me post it.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Midori,

I have not posted at Wooten’s blog in weeks, so I guess you’re telling me that you jacked my name to post your usual disgusting vulgarities?

Watcher,

Observing your ludicrious moral-equivalencies, it’s no wonder you Libs support partial-birth abortion. You don’t see the difference between a first trimester abortion and sucking out a baby’s brains at the moment of birth.

Does the problem lie with the fact that you and Midori don’t know what “suck” means?

@@,

Newsflash - Big Al Qaeda fish reportedly snagged in Iraq…Al Bagdhadi…not confirmed by U.S. forces yet..

By Paul

March 9, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Right off - wasn’t referring to you - your disdain for Pres Bush and his policies is explained well - but, there are others who pop in and out with the seeming idea that if America would disappear Nirvana would descend. Of course America isn’t “blameless” - but that should not stymie us, either.

I don’t want to go to a point by point - but nations do different things in their national interest and assist/ally with otherwise disreputable individuals as the situations warrant. One year we’re allied with Stalin - a murderous psychopath if ever there was one. A few years later we’re battling his pilots over N Korea.

The point now, not 1985, not 1995, is Iran’s professed march towards nuclear weapons, as well as the stated views of leaders to vaporize Israel and also attack the West. Some dismiss the statements as playing to a political crowd. I find that argument paternalistic - rather a “there, there, little one, we know you’re just having a tantrum.” That said - I recognize the internal strife in Iran, the concerns of some moderate clergy. We can engage on other fronts - but back to the issue - it is Russia who is assisting Iran in achieving its stated goals, all the while receiving tremendous financial benefit from arms sales and contracts while using its position to stall international agencies from fulfilling their obligations.

Given Russia’s Moslem problems, assisting them strikes me as lunacy - but money and power tend to overshadow reason.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Midori,

Okay, I find nothing at Wooten’s so you must be desperately hoping that there is something in the archives that matches your vileness in some way.

Why don’t you find a post from Wooten’s blog that I made that is somehow comparable?

And you know perfectly well that I am not Markus so don’t try to hang his comments on me. If you want to play that game then you are responsible for what all your team mates utter.

Or you could just exit with whatever tiny bit of grace you might have left.

By @@

March 9, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the newsflash Danish. I’ll put on my trenchcoat and fedora.

rushncap:

I could be wrong, but I think what Paul is trying to say is that there are a handful of countries jockeying for power. They become part of the overall problem.

A “Utopia” where these type of actions don’t occur would be nice, but at the same time, other countries aren’t looking for your Utopia. They’re looking for power and they do it in the most underhanded ways to serve their own interests. Just how are we supposed to control their actions?

Paul:

Did you read the piece from Stratfor about our BMD system, and how many countries are looking to deal with us while Russia fraternizes with our enemies.

I sure hope they’ll be leased and not sold.

By Paul

March 9, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

@@

Public utterances aside, isn’t it interesting how many countries do want those systems?

Many times in such situations we keep control over parts of the technology and have onsite advisors - usually from the company - to protect our interests.

Strattfor is thought-provoking (no, other readers, it isn’t a conservative blog - it’s an intelligence and analysis site) - I’ve about four more to go - hope that one’s there - they tend to back up in my inbox.

For some reason I just thought of this - before the last Iraq war - Great Britain had sold Saddam a number of secure (classified) “cell phones” - for comms with his commanders. Thing was, Brits had a program that could crack it. They shared the intel with us. Media printed it. Some in US said, how horrid, Britain and the US deceived. You know, that was another case where I didn’t hear one peep about tracking down those who leaked classified information. Maybe if Saddam would have been a Democrat… or at least donated….

By robert

March 9, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

hey everyone!

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

really late to the party rushncap,

I just saw your latest SNAFU post. You are interrupting mid conversation.

If you had been part of this conversation from the beginning you’d know that I have already said that SNAFU is an acronym - hours and hours ago.

I said it the very first time I used the acronym SNAFU to make a point about all vulgarities not being equal…unless you’re a lib.

It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you are siding with the fowl-mouthed Midori. Birds of a feather…

Paul,

I don’t get what is wrong with saying that I expose Midori’s vulgarities and lies and that’s why she wants people like Walt to ignore me.

Exposing modern day liberalism for the amoral trash that it is is part of my purpose for being here in the first place. Anywho…

Thanks for the tip about O’Reilly. I have been following the shenanigans with the Russians…

It’s a dangerous game they are playing.

By Daniel

March 9, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Paul: What one takes from the Bush comment: “Business and money trump international interest” is that American and British oil companies stand to make a killing in Iraq. That is if the American people do not tire of the killing of their children.

By Midori

March 9, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Hag,

I tire of you.

don’t you have some chew toys in your stash some place to keep you occupied?

Woof, woof. Can you hear me now?

Face it Hag - you’re a lying, name calling, blustering, hypocritical bully of a skank. A “niggardly” one at that. And I’m calling your filthy rear out on it.

And will continue to do so.

And with that, Scumbag Skank Hag, I bid you “adieu”.

see - I can check a French/English dictionary too. It’s not that hard. Anyone can do it. Which is why I could never figure out your false sense of superiority whenever you threw out a couple of French words or phrases.

You’re such a sleazy POS. Ever the show off. Ever the make believe “intellectual”. Ever the legend in its own mind. Ever the foaming at the mouth retard of a bigoted bully. Ever the cheerleading simpleton whenever it’s one on “your” side calling the names or behaving badly.

Later, Skank. I have a life outside of this blog. And I have conversations to share with REAL humans, not just make believe ones.

By @@

March 9, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Paul:

It’s funny you should mention the cell phone “call” in the media.

When this war began, there was some female FOX news reporter whose on aire blunder regarding cell phone communications, caused Bin Laden to shut down his real quick like. Who says they aren’t watching our news?

The minute she opened her mouth, I wanted to offer her some free dental work.

By Paul

March 9, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish 4:47

As I said yesterday, lost in the midst, is that I rather enjoy some of your other posts - just a selfish observation on my part.

Daniel 4:52

Your take on that as “big oil” illustrates the point I was making. You may want to check the source (I saw the news conference) - it was in response to a question about foreign governments and their lack of action.

By Paul

March 9, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

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The very fact the FOX reporter was privy to that information was terrible. Yeah, that was the story about the cell phone intercepts - which was also published. Did I miss the Dems demands for a probe into the leaking of classified and endangering American lives and intelligence networks on that or are we (here comes the sports analogy…) 0 for 2?

By @@

March 9, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Paul, we must remember now….that one helped Bin Laden, and no I can’t recall any Dems outrage.

I may have been preoccupied with my own outrage.

And mine was directed at a FOX news reporter no less.

Fair & balanced….a dumba-zz is a dumba-zz.

By @@

March 9, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Oh my, I just dropped in at Wooten’s. It seems as though the liberals are on the warpath.

Conservatives are being namejacked left and right. IN THE NEWS and Dusty are going at it.

Poor Ol’ Fuddy Duddy is being attacked by the liberals, and I’m laughing so hard the tears are pouring.

Now where exactly is this civility you liberals claim as exclusive to your cause?

I wish it could be different, but alas……

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

{{{Face it Hag - you’re a lying, name calling, blustering, hypocritical bully of a skank. A “niggardly” one at that. And I’m calling your filthy rear out on it.}}}

Midori (Ms. Parrota Porcina Bovina Vulgaris),

You are all SQUAWK and no action. Find a post. One post. Dare ya, Double dare ya.

I’ll admit to “name calling” but it is often done “punningly*” or as an editorial comment, and is quite tame compared to your schoolyard nanny nanny boo boos.

As for my French, I was born in France I studied French, and my parents both spoke it fluently. Ergo, I speak it - albeit imperfectly.

That being said, other than using very commonly known phrases like “C’est la vie”, “Au contraire”, and “menage a trois”, I hardly use it.

The last time you were agitated over my use of a French phrase was when I responded to Edwin Williams who was going to New Orleans for Mardi Gras.

I said “Laissez les bon temps roulez” which is another widely recognized expression that does not require one minute in a French classroom to learn.

Heck, even Getalife knows that it means “Let the good times roll”. It is a theme of the City of New Orleans. The fact that you are too ignorant to know it is your problem not mine.

I see that you are bothered by the word “niggardly”. You are nothing if not predictable.

*Unlike “Stuntingly”, “Punningly” is a real word that can easily be found in the dictionary.

By rushncap

March 9, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Paul - I agree. I’m certainly no fan of Putin. I’m yet to see anything to be thrilled about from him. But yes, Russia is in rather desperate straights, and it should be stopped. That said, there is precious little you or I can do about Russian government. But there is a lot we can do about ours. Which is why I think most of the criticism centers around USA: it’s not that we’re worse than others, it’s that we have a real shot of changing policies we disagree with.

@@: so you’re saying “fight fire with fire”. i.e. other nations are under-handed, we should be too. And just how far are you willing to take this “win at any cost” argument? Other nations are totalitarian, we should have a King ourselves? If in the process of competing we lose the very thing that makes this country great, what’s the point anyways?

By Paul

March 9, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

rushncap

Very good point. The recent rash of (Russian-directed?) suicides(?) and assissinations bears that out.

Every so often a story pops up about Russia’s securing natural gas, oil, pipeline rights. Why Europe isn’t more apparently concerned is a mystery - Russia has its strategic interests in the Middle East - not just us.

I’ve been bouncing between this date and Mar 9 - while trying to finish a project. I’ll likely scan Mar 9 more - if I miss a response - sorry. Have a pleasant weekend.

By @@

March 9, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

Oh….and Midori, I didn’t want to make a big stink out of this, but since you have no problem with “stink”, I just wanted to let you know….

If you’re gonna “call me a name”, learn to spell it. It’s “gnat”, not “knat”.

In french it’s “moucheron”.

See, you too, can be enlightened.

By @@

March 9, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

rushncap:

If you’re talking about a loss of civil liberties, I have yet to see where any upstanding American citizens have lost theirs. It’s not as if, security measures haven’t been put in place during past wars, and we survived those. They’re reversible during peace time.

Granted, peace may be a long time coming in this war, but as things progress for the better, things will change for the better.

The contradiction in people like you is that you’re willing to turn your everyday needs, and the needs of others over to government control. That scares me even more than the terrorists.

Never take away man’s drive to achieve. Never make life too easy, because it’s not. Not for me, not for you. Never let your politicians secure their power by slowly bringing the people to depend on them for all their daily necessities. That’s dangerous.

There certainly are people who are in need, and I encourage our support of them. But what would motivate a party like the Democrats to curtail abuse of those programs when that’s where they get their support in elections.

How can people be free and dependent. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

By Buy Danish

March 9, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

Your childish and rather paranoid implications that Bush is behaving like a “King” or that we are moving towards a totalitarian government are patently absurd.

Perhaps you are an anarchist at heart and any form of order is objectionable to you? You’ve made allusions that you yourself lived under the yoke of tyranny, yet the best we can gather is that you spent most of your childhood and young adulthood in San Diego.

Until you can demonstrate that George Bush plans to wield absolute power, stay in office for the rest of his life with his wife as Queen, and appoint either Barbara or Jenna as heiress to the throne, then your argument is no more than a silly fairy tale.

You clearly are aware of some of the very real dangers we face as a nation from exterior forces. Devoting your energies to nonsense tales is not a particularly productive endeavor.

That being said, since your Leftist solutions would inevitably do more harm than good, perhaps being unproductive is a good thing for all concerned.