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By LuckoDull

March 6, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

That’s almost as lame as outing a “covert” CIA agent.

Who cares?

Except a bunch of partisan hack pinko liberals, that is.

The same pinkos that outed the CIA’s prison program at the drop of a hat, putting real field agents in danger. The libs gave out awards to themselves for that.

And what damage was done to Plame? She got rich, got her picture posted in all the elite lib publications, got to retire early. The horror.

Being “outed” as a stripper would have been far worse.

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By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 6:18 AM | Link to this

The brightest image of the past two weeks was the scene of displaced families returning home; more than a thousand families are back to their homes under the protection of the Army and police. This figure invites hope that Baghdad will restore its social, ethnic and religious mosaic. Marketplaces are seeing more activity and stores that were long shuttered are reopening—including even some liquor stores that came under vicious attacks in the past. This is a sign that extremists no longer can intimidate people and hold the city hostage. All of this gives the sense that law is being imposed.Our people want to see this effort succeed. We know it’s not going to be an easy fight. Rescuing all of Baghdad’s districts from the grip of militants and terrorists will require sacrifice and hard work. We hope the troops and the governments in Baghdad and America do not lose their resolve. Mohammed and Omar Fadhil write a blog, IraqTheModel.com, from Baghdad.

Word up.

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By George

March 7, 2007 8:00 AM | Link to this

Great Toon ML!!!!

Too bad Cheney won’t be sharing a cell with Scooter.

By Shawny

March 7, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

We learned long ago—and Mr. Fitzgerald knew from the start of his probe in 2003—that Mr. Libby was not the source of the leak to columnist Robert Novak that started all this. Mr. Libby thus had no real motive to cover up this non-crime. What he did have strong cause to do was rebut the lies that Mr. Wilson was telling about the Administration and Mr. Cheney—lies confirmed as lies by a bipartisan report of the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2004.

By jacksonwolff

March 7, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this

conspiracy theory-

Luckodull is really mike’s hidden alter-ego.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

By Shawny

March 7, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

An even better one

By Ad-Hoc

March 7, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

Hysterical. Hey, who is the guy who posts first every day? What a craz-o! Absolutely no life. Watch him. He’s gonna blow something up one day…

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Love the toon, Lucko! Cheney’s head looks like it’s about to explode!

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:17 AM | Link to this

Scooter’s trial revealed just how far Cheney was willing to manipulate the intelligence reports in order to justify invading Iraq — and the plans to invade Iraq were formed long before Sept. 11th ever happened, as we all know!

Prosecutors played a tape of Mr. Libby testifying to a grand jury that Mr. Cheney had asked Mr. Bush to declassify an intelligence report selectively so he, Mr. Libby, could leak it to sympathetic reporters. Mr. Cheney�s hand-written scribbles were introduced into evidence at the trial, including the one that hinted Mr. Cheney believed that his own staffer, Mr. Libby, was being sacrificed.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

LuckoDull and Shawny - I hope you understand that the folks on this blog are no more interested in hearing the facts and getting to the real truth than was the Prosecutor Fitzgerald. They will obsess all day long on Karl Rove et. al. and how all of them should be in jail, when, in fact, Fitzgerald knew from the beginning who the leaker was and that no crime had been committed because Plame was not an undercover agent. You and I will be attacked as wing-nuts and worse because they want blood, no matter how innocent. If you cannot win legitimately, invent a crime! That’s real justice at work, eh?

By Shawny

March 7, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

Yes, Old Fuddy Duddy, while that is true, still, I feel it necessary to perform this public service, even if it falls on deaf ears.

By mountain man

March 7, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

If the concept of karma is true, I wonder what kind of life Cheney will experience next time? He presents as a man full of vindictiveness and utterly lacking in compassion and humanity.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Good Toon Mike.

The spin has started - get out the dramamine.

progressives may find this useful

By Oh the Humanity

March 7, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Edwin and Shawny stop crying.

By Reece

March 7, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Scooter was convicted by a jury of his peers, despite all of the Lush Rimshot/mAnn Coulter/Hannity talking points that you reichwingers have touted for many months.

Most revealing are the juror statements, after completion of deliberations, where they were asking “Why aren’t Karl Rove and Dick Cheney facing similar charges?” After hearing all of the testimony the KNOW there’s more guilt to go around.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

{{I hope you understand that the folks on this blog are no more interested in hearing the facts and getting to the real truth than was the Prosecutor Fitzgerald.}}

Old Fuddy Duddy— you need to go and take a long look in the mirror. You are obviously having a very hard time with the FACTS when they don’t line up with your ideology….

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

{[I feel it necessary to perform this public service, even if it falls on deaf ears.}}

Very good, Shawny. And there are many here who post simply because trolls like you and Andy and Fuddy keep trying to spread your lies over the blogosphere… public service indeed!

By Kinja

March 7, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

Silly cartoon, Mike. Can you move on to something with more substance?

including even some liquor stores that came under vicious attacks in the past. This

I wonder if they will sell on Sunday.

By Eric

March 7, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Last time I checked lying to a Federal Grand Jury while under oath was a crime. Libby is guilty and Patrick Fitzgerald did an admirable job. Need you be reminded that the bush administration authorized the investigation. Praise is due to Fitzgerald and the jurors for a job well done. The shame in this case is that bush, cheney, rumsfeld, rove and several others will not be held accountable for their crimes. And in the end, Libby will be pardoned by bush, you moron.

By Reece

March 7, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

You’ve just hit the nail on the head when it comes to how the entire Renamblican party thinks.

The facts that don’t line up with what they want to hear are subverted BY ANY MEANS to prove their point(s). That is the crux of what and why this trial happened.

By @@

March 7, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

ml, I’ve got to give it to you. Your “likeness” (cough) of Cheney is a good one.

The Libby investigation was a comedy of errors that out does your cartoon though.

I had no idea that Collins, the juror’s spokesperson was a former Washington Post employee.

He just couldn’t wait to get in front of the cameras and get the conspiratorial leftists wailing, yet again.

Nobody even saw a crime until they got on their left-wing blogs and created one where there was none.

Hey…..you liberals owe the American taxpayer a bundle, millions. That money could have been spent on our troops in Iraq.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

Good link at 8:30, Mrs. G! Lots of good FACTS spelled out.

I especially hope that Old Fuddy re-reads Ambassador Wilson’s words that he wrote in his Op-Ed about his trip to Niger:

[“In fact, Wilson, in his July 6, 2003, New York Times op-ed, did not say he was sent by Cheney. Rather, Wilson wrote that it was “agency officials” from the CIA who “asked if I would travel to Niger” and “check out” a “particular intelligence report” that “Cheney’s office had questions about,” so that CIA officials “could provide a response to the vice president’s office.”]

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

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Scooter got exactly what he deserved. Pity we haven’t convicted the rest of the PNAC Brady Bunch as well for their part in all of this information manipulation for personal political and financial gain.

Of course the Right Wingers will go cannibalistic and eat their own, as they now waylay and swiftboat their fellow Republican Patrick Fitzgerald for doing his job as a prosecutor.

Patrick has been most honarable as his duties entailed he go after corruption no matter what race, religion, sex, or political affiliation. He is an honorable man.

Now we will see the dishonorable men speak out against him!

Should Libby dare come clean and speak out against his masters, we will see him too swiftboated by these same dishonorable men that care nothing for truth and justice! Just their idols sanctity!

Thomas/PNAC

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

Thanks Goldie.

A good scout is always prepared.

Unfortunately, facts are only important to the reality based community.

By w00t

March 7, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Dull,

Scooter LIED! He LIED to a grand jury. You can’t do that, it�s ILLEGAL. What I find troubling is what lengths the Bush administration might go to, to protect their phony war that was all built on a pile of lies.

Using your logic, Bill Clinton didn’t really do anything wrong so there shouldn’t have been an investigation or been impeached. All he did was lie right? No one got hurt. Though, I guess this different….

It’s funny how the tables have turned and to see the double standard.

Why don’t you do yourself a favor and catch up on the history of this case

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Reece, thanks for posting. Are you familiar with the quote from Ron Suskind’s book, where the Repug spokesman states that the Bush administration creates its own “reality”? It’s a very telling statement, and I’ll have to go back into the archives to locate the exact words.

Oh and also, there was the time when Cheney made the statement along the lines of having to “control the message.”

The wheels are definitely falling off for this anti-American criminals in the White House!

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this

Reece, here’s one link to the Ron Suskind report on Dubya’s “reality”:

The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Excellent ‘toon Mike! The spin has begun. I pitty poor Scooter only because he was made the fall guy. There should be many more indictments but I doubt it will happen.

By Walt

March 7, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Luckodull does damage control:

“Who cares?

Except a bunch of partisan hack pinko liberals, that is.”

Hypocrite.

The Republicans made a big hairy deal about Clinton lying under oath.

Now you show your true colors.

By jpetz

March 7, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Great cartoon. Cheney and Rove should have been on trial. Libby was the fall guy and after his appeal runs out will be pardoned just in time.

Pardon or not, Libby is now a felon, a black mark he will carry the rest of his life. I feel bad for him because all he had to do was tell the truth or state “I don’t recall”. But he opted to make outrageously false statements and that is why he was convicted.

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

Goldie: It’s what Bruce Bartlett and Paul O’Neil called: “Received intellligence”. O’Neil was the Treasury Secretary who had the audacity to think for himself, and was sacked. Bush wants to be told how right he is. In this way they have betrayed the nation. The lies and deceit are a dissservice to our country. We’ve been “swiftboated”.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

{{Hey�..you liberals owe the American taxpayer a bundle, millions. That money could have been spent on our troops in Iraq.}}

Hey BOOBS, you Neo-cons owe the American taxpayers a HALF-TRILLION DOLLARS that have been wasted in our occupation of Iraq so far. They still have no electricity, no security, no jobs, etc., and you are still having a hard time admitting that LYING to a grand jury is even a crime.

You need to get yourself back to school quick, because you’ve really lost your marbles!

By Seriously

March 7, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

What a horrible week for the horrible Bush administration.

Walter Reed and the treatment of wounded soldiers, Federal Prosecutors fired for political purposes, and now a convicted felon from their ranks and an obvious cover-up.

Its one disaster after another with this administration. This administration is a national embarrassment.

There is no doubt anymore. Bush is the worst President this once proud nation has ever had. By far.

By ({= .I. =}) TakeMeToYourLeader

March 7, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Thank God our democracy appears to gravitating toward truth for a change.

Can we all agree now with a very wise Republic (sic) who said: “You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”?

I vote to impeach.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Yeah, spin:

A bipartisan investigation by the Senate intelligence committee subsequently established that all of these claims were false — and that Mr. Wilson was recommended for the Niger trip by Ms. Plame, his wife. When this fact, along with Ms. Plame’s name, was disclosed in a column by Robert D. Novak, Mr. Wilson advanced yet another sensational charge: that his wife was a covert CIA operative and that senior White House officials had orchestrated the leak of her name to destroy her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson.-Washington Post

Listen to the noise and fury from practically ever dullard available, babbling on and on about “reality” and the “facts.” All the while, twisting a conviction for perjury before a grand jury into some evil White House scheme.

You want to talk about fooling yourself.

Why hasn’t Cheney been brought up on any charges? Maybe because he did nothing wrong?

Why hasn’t Armitage been brought up on any charges? Maybe because “outing” Valerie Plame wasn’t a crime?

All you silly pinkos got for Fitzmas was a minor conviction of a low level government employee with a faulty memory.

Might as well jump, huh?

It ain’t like Bush came out and said “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.”

No, this one is pretty Dull, by comparison.

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By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

{{Patrick has been most honarable as his duties entailed he go after corruption no matter what race, religion, sex, or political affiliation. He is an honorable man.}}

Thomas, did you also know that Fitzgerald was the prosecutor who went after the Mafia bosses in New York? Very appropriate that he take on this White House challenge next…

By Writer's block

March 7, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Bush will simply pardon Libby.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

A good link to educate us about the honorable Patrick Fitzgerald:

Fitzgerald participated in several terrorist trials, including the prosecution of Osama Bin Laden and his associates in the August 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Fitzgerald also assisted in the prosecution of Mafia capo John Gambino and his crew for various crimes.

By Walt

March 7, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

One of the talking heads on MSNBC last speculated that when the defense backed off having Cheney and Libby testify, after they had prepped for that in their opening remarks — that is when the fix went in for the pardon.

By Writer's block

March 7, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

Novak seems to be the key traitorial link to the many scoundrels in this scandal. The CIA was betrayed by a fifth column enemy in the person of Novak. I cant believe he got away with it. Nixon proved that unless good men object, there is no justice for any administration’s malfeasance.

Someone has to stand up and say, “WTF?”

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

Hopefully, America will never again fall for the Bush baloney. Perhaps, our great nation has slipped into a warp where these knuckleheads thrive. We need to get this back on track. Every republican I know is embarrassed. Not one supports the Bush. He is a laughing stock. You mention the name and people cringe. He is a buffoon who is largely disrespected world wide. He is damaging to America. The Libby Trial reveals the corruption. They all lied to get Joe Wilson. This is the one history will remember. Bush has to pardon, or Libby will sing. The Bush pardon will sink them. May the Good Lord look with favor upon a grateful nation and Pat Fitzgerald.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

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LOL - oh that’s good!

Andy-Dull is using an editorial (Opinion Piece) as his basis for news-worthy facts??

I’d say the courts have spoken! And news opinions mean very little on the issue as the Verdict Is In!

Thomas/PNAC

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Goldilocks,

That NYT story you linked to is a complete farce.

There is not one mention of Richard Armitage, the Deputy Secy. of State under Colin Powell who is the man who leaked Valerie Plame’s name - albeit inadvertently.

Prosecutor Fitzgerald knew that Armitage was the leaker 3 WEEKS BEFORE THE TRIAL BEGAN. Fitzgerald told Armitage to keep his mouth shut about it.

Fitzgerald’s mandate was to find out who leaked the information and whether that leak was illegal. No one was charged on that count because no law was broken.

Even David Boies agrees that this is a political witch hunt,err, prosecution.

This sentence, demonstrates the reporters bias:

With a career in politics that goes back to the Nixon White House, Mr. Cheney is no stranger to Washington scandal and how to weather it.

The clear and completely unfounded implication there is that Cheney was somehow involved with Nixon’s crimes.

This is perfectly outrageous innuendo, but not surprising considering the source.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

For the last time, I am NOT Edwin!

By Writer's block

March 7, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

The pardon was implied from the start. In fact, Cheney simply assumed that Libby knew that if anything broke about anything they’ve done, they’d circle the wagons, let Libby take the fall, and simply pardon him in ‘09. That’s the only way to get true loyalty. Imagine a world where Libby sings like a canary, and we all get to see what bush/cheney do to him. We’d get to see ourselves for what we really are: puppets for the larger concerns.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Fitzgerald hates Libby because Libby was the attorney who arranged Mark Rich’s pardon with Billy Jeff.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

As for manipulating pre-war intelligence, Senator Reid should run his poisonously partisan version of events past his former colleague, Sen. Chuck Robb. In its March 2005 report on pre-war WMD intelligence, the Silberman-Robb commission wrote, �The United States government asserted that Saddam Hussein had reconstituted his nuclear weapons program, had biological weapons and mobile biological weapon production facilities, and had stockpiled and was producing chemical weapons. All of this was based on the assessments of the U.S. Intelligence Community.�

Reid is either an idiot or a democrat party stooge.

I’m not making the call on which one it is.

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By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

This comment will be my last on this, but the real spin is you fellows who just want blood, no matter what. You are just as bad as you accused Starr of being. I also thought that he was out of bounds because he was supposed to be limited to White Water. I thought that was an injustice as well. If no underlying crime has been committed, then there should be no crime investigated period. Fitzgerald’s conduct amounts to old fashioned “entrapment” or the creation for the opportunity of a crime where none would have otherwise been committed. And btw mountain man, how has Cheney been vendictive? I must have missed that one. Cite some examples please before making blanket charges.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

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No Goldie I didn’t know that.

When I first read about Patrick, I was afraid he was just another crony that was going to white-wash the cases. Boy was I wrong. He has done a great job as a prosecutor, and never gave up. I’d hate to be the target of his investigations.

Oh and make no mistake, I think he would nail a Democrat (or anyone else)to the wall too. This man is like the (pardon the analogy) “Teflon Prosecutor”.

I still disagree with his politics and opinions on many counts, but I respect the man as an un-biased Prosecutor.

Thomas/PNAC

By @@

March 7, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Thanks Goldie. When I do leave for work, I’ll have an even bigger smile on my face after having read your 9:05.

You do tend to get overly excited about the most mundane things.

BTW you just lied. I’ll see if the conservatives here will give you a pardon.

Reconstruction projects provide Iraqis with big improvements to essential services

You’re a “goldmine” of entertainment.

Sincerely, Boobs…..

By Walt

March 7, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Luckodull Sends:

“It ain�t like Bush came out and said �I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.�

No, this one is pretty Dull, by comparison.”

Three thousand, one hundred and seventy seven dead — that is holding my interest just fine.

By BuyDanish'sJohn

March 7, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Thanks for Tuesday afternoon’s treat BD! It sure was good with the dentures out. See you tomorrow. You do have talent no matter what everybody else thinks.

By LooneyTune

March 7, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

I heard a really interesting comment yesterday. Amnesty International has noticed that human rights groups across the globe have begun rejecting the influence the United States once had in making sure human rights atrocities did not take place. The reason given? How can you, after invading and occupying one country, come in and tell us how to govern our own? Not happening. This is quite possibly, the biggest travesty this administration will leave behind. What a bunch of clueless thugs.

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I see Blackadder’s self imposed exile didn’t take. Typical lib.

Buy Danish,

I believe Fitzfong knew Armitage was the leaker even before the grand jury was empaneled.

David Boies had it exactly right that even though Libby was convicted there was never any good reason to bring the case and furthermore there should never have been a grand jury since Fitz was supposed to find out who leaked and whether it was a crime. Not to spend millions of dollars on a witchhunt after it was determined no crime had been committed.

I hope President Bush doesn’t pussyfoot around and wait until January 2009. He should go on TV today, pardon Libby and fire Fitzgerald. Then a grand jury should hear facts about whether Fitzgerald should be brought up on charges of malicious prosecution.

As I stated yesterday, Ken Starr had both Bill and Hillary Clinton lying to the grand jury, but he was much too restrained to prosecute for that when he couldn’t tie them to the overall crime and in that case several people did go to prison for the actual crime that was being investigated.

To all,

In the tradition of Blackadder I am permanently removing myself from this blog. Or at least until this afternoon.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

{{how has Cheney been vendictive? I must have missed that one. Cite some examples please before making blanket charges.}}

Fuddy— you could do well for yourself to “cite some examples” for all of the charges you have made here day after day. Your constant claims that “that’s the facts” holds no weight when you can’t reference your statements.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

{{Fitzgerald�s mandate was to find out who leaked the information and whether that leak was illegal. No one was charged on that count because no law was broken.}}

Donut— and in the meantime, Scooter perjured himself during his testimony in an attempt to COVER-UP Cheney’s involvement. Like I posted yesterday, Scooter chose to fall on his own sword.

And if there was no underlying crime committed, why in h3ll would Scooter think it was so important to LIE??? Are you saying Scooter is JUST STUPID???

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

{{Fitzgerald hates Libby because Libby was the attorney who arranged Mark Rich�s pardon with Billy Jeff.}}

Donut— you’re LAME.

By Shawny

March 7, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

[The Democratic Party is now putting working Americans and their families in the exact same position as the Republicans: last.

This Democratic-led Congress and this Republican President seem intent on pushing middle-class Americans, and truth, into the shadows. We asked for bipartisanship. But I don’t think we can stand any more of it.](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/06/dobbs.march7/index.html).

Why McCain can’t win.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

{{I had no idea that Collins, the juror�s spokesperson was a former Washington Post employee.}}

Hey Boobs, why don’t you write a letter to Scooter’s attorney asking why he would ALLOW a former reporter onto the jury?

Just like Donut— you’re LAME.

By Shawny

March 7, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

This is flippin hilarious.

Talk about Karma.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this

Wilson’s assertions — both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information — were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report. The panel found that Wilson’s report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson’s assertions and even the government’s previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush’s January 2003 State of the Union address.

Sir Dullard of GasBaghdad: An “opinion piece” based on facts, which is probably too much information for a simpleton like you to comprehend.

“Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the ‘dates were wrong and the names were wrong’ when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports,” the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have “misspoken” to reporters. The documents — purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq — were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger. Wilson’s reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger

You libs go ahead and get your jollies tormenting Libby for being stupid.

Have fun.

And keep overlooking where the lies originated from.

Hacks.

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By Dusty

March 7, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Well, the mob runs crazy this morning. What will be the next great move of these liberals? Let’s see.

Maybe you could march Libby down the street, tie him to a post and throw rotten veggies and eggs at him.

Or maybe a little tar and feathers, huh?

Bring back “stocks” for the village entertainment on the square?

This trial was made for ignorant partisans and they got what they wanted, the chance to run around squealing and giving high fives.

Most of America knows this was a trial with a political verdict, not one for justice. It was a sham and shameful. But the partisans got their entertainment and they are dancing in the streets. That is where they belong, not in a court called justice.

By Shawny

March 7, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

This toon is pretty funny, unlike Mikey’s toons for the past week and a half.

By Jesus

March 7, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

IMPEACH BUSH NOW!!!

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Woodward: Well it was Joe Wilson who was sent by the agency, isn�t it?

Armitage: His wife works for the agency.

Woodward: Why doesn�t that come out?Why does that have to be a big secret?

Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it.

Woodward: Everyone knows?

Armitage: Yeah. And they know �cause Joe Wilson�s been calling everybody. He�s p** off �cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he�s all p** off.

Huh, I thought THIS was the crime?

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By Shawny

March 7, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

sorry, bad link earlier

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

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Yes Shawney! (9:52am)

I thought that was great!

Karma indeed!~

Go directly to Jail - Do not pass go!

Thomas/PNAC

By getalife

March 7, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Excellent toon Mike.

Why would Libby lie?

Duh, to protect cheney of course.

I am amazed watching the hate party making excuses for this convicted felon..

Their character and souls are corrupted by their blind devotion to their hate, criminal party.

These are the worst of Americans. What in the world will it take for these failed Americans to say enough with the hate and corruption?

Geez.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

{{Most of America knows this was a trial with a political verdict, not one for justice. It was a sham and shameful.}}

Dusty-brain, I bet you’re also one of that group of Americans who saw no wrong with Reagan’s Iran-Contra conspirators — remember, they were the ones who sold arms to terrorists in order to support their wingnut agenda! Sold them to terrorists!

Fess up, Dusty — did you also plead for mercy for Ollie North and his crew???

By @@

March 7, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Goldie:

That was a very mature response you gave.

(((Hey Boobs, why don�t you write a letter to Scooter�s attorney asking why he would ALLOW a former reporter onto the jury?)))

(((Just like Donut� you�re LAME.)))

Can I take LAME to mean you had nothing more mature in your arsenal?

At least I’m not “limping” like you girlfriend.

I never said Collins shouldn’t have been selected, I just said he didn’t waste any time “picking the limp brains” of the liberals’ agenda.

You are definitely one of his “useful tools”, not the sharpest hammer in his bag of tricks.

By UGAlaw

March 7, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 9:42 AM David Boies had it exactly right that even though Libby was convicted there was never any good reason to bring the case and furthermore there should never have been a grand jury since Fitz was supposed to find out who leaked and whether it was a crime. Not to spend millions of dollars on a witchhunt after it was determined no crime had been committed.

RW here’s a little 101 for you. Any crime committed during the course of any investigation is still a crime and prosecutable. Scooter Libby committed a CRIME RW! Perjury. He got what he earned. Using your logic, every person ever convicted of a peripheral crime resulting from an investigation should never have been proesecuted. The lesson here RW, is that people should COOPERATE with investigators. Scooter Libby did this to himself. Furthermore RW, what you think you know matters nothing. What you can prove means everything.

By SOBEIT

March 7, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

To hell with all this misplaced sympathy for Scooter Libby! Anybody dumb enough to do the dirty work for the most dishonest, unscrupulous, and cowardly man ever to inhabit this planet deserves to stew in his own juices as Libby is having to do. The real injustice here is that it is Libby and not Dick Cheney on his way to the slammer.

By Lord Help Us

March 7, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

My Gawd,

The investigation was requested by the CIA and prosecuted by a BUSH appointee.

Facts are Facts…Face Them.

You retards need to take your whining to the CIA and the Bush DOJ if you have a problem.

Otherwise, you only make yourselves look foolish.

By Walt

March 7, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

Dusty Sends…..

“Well, the mob runs crazy this morning. What will be the next great move of these liberals? Let�s see.

Maybe you could march Libby down the street, tie him to a post and throw rotten veggies and eggs at him.

Or maybe a little tar and feathers, huh?”

What needs to happen next is impeachment and prison for Bush and Cheney and prison for Rice, Addington, Hadley, Rumsfeld and Feith.

Just for starters.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

By getalife March 7, 2007 10:07 AM Why would Libby lie? Duh, to protect cheney of course. I am amazed watching the hate party making excuses for this convicted felon..

gitmo hack: If Armitage was the original “leaker” what the hell does Cheney have to do with it?

Talk about “making excuses.”

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By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

UGA law - your argument is a valid one, except that it is much more complicated than that. And since perjury is a crime, what about Bill Clinton’s perjury? How do you feel abou that. I believe that case was completely crazy too, but what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Do not complain that Clinton was hounded by an overzealous prosecutor and then applaud what has happened to Libby.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Andy,

There were many leaks ordered by cheney idiot.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

{{If Armitage was the original �leaker� what the hell does Cheney have to do with it?}}

Still trying to throw your shi-ite out, just hoping it will stick, Andy-dull?

By DNC

March 7, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

{[I feel it necessary to perform this public service, even if it falls on deaf ears.}}

Very good, Shawny. And there are many here who post simply because trolls like you and Andy and Fuddy keep trying to spread your lies over the blogosphere� public service indeed!

They are doing a public service. Everytime they post the republican party loses votes. These wingwacks have no idea that they have chased more voters to the other side with their lunacy than all the dem politicos could have ever gathered through other means. Let them keep posting. They are the biggest reason that the rebellion of 06 buried the republican party.

By Walt

March 7, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

Luckodull sends:

“Huh, I thought THIS was the crime?”

It is.

People get away with crimes all the time.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Libby was found guilty by a jury of his peers - lying and obstruction. Period. End of story. All the other comments about conspiracies, motives, etc are speculation. The case (less appeals) is over. I think the larger issue is - have we learned from this case and the Starr case - or will Justice still employ Special Prosecutors, spend millions of dollars and end up only with a crime incidental to the one being investigated (which resulted in no indictments?). Maybe a policy at Justice stating a finding of “no indictments” wouldn’t be a career killer. And possibly, just possibly, a requirement that at the outset of all such investigations, a finding of fact in the case (were allegations based in fact) to decide if the investigation should ever go forward?

Naw - this serves too many political interests. Anna Nicole’s buried, American Idol doesn’t have a scandal playing out, Dems can’t figure out how to extricate from Iraq and won’t talk about their national security plan published a couple years ago, Hillary’s got a new drawl, Edwards speaks for Jesus (is he a theocon in disguise?) - but it appears woulda coulda shoulda wins out.

By jacksonwolff

March 7, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Don’t we have bigger problems in this country that weather this guy lied or not. Problems that will cause us headaches for years down the road

Like…. Multi-trillion dollar national debt outsourcing healthcare education

Why is nobody screaming about that? Instead we are all wrapped up in this fool.

By Dusty

March 7, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

Are they paying you extra for all your propaganda efforts this morning? You’ve been the blog fog this morning.

I did not follow the Ollie North Case. Does it have something to do with the current liberal finagling? Does it have something to do with Clinton’s legal difficulties? I didn’t think so. You are just digging. Get back to your celebration before Democrats cut your pay.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

This is all too funny. Ranting and ravings on a post don’t make either side look good, but DNC, I can promise you that it neither gains nor loses votes for either side. The screaming of small children only tends to irritate the adults. They will no more listen to you than to the other side. Shrill is shrill. Cloak your arguments in fact and reason, and then you might change some minds. I doubt that will happen on this because mostly pure ideologues or people like me (who simply want to amuse themselves) do this kind of thing anyway.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

More for Progressives

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Paul - people in the Justice Department should NEVER be concerned about their “careers” anyway. They should only be concerned about what is right. Last time I read the Uniform Code of Ethics, that was the case, especially for prosecutors. A Democrat Judge I know well in Cobb County told me that he never would have allowed this to come to trial because it had nothing to do with the underlying case because there was no underlying crime. Ethically, once Fitzgerald knew who the leaker was and that Plame was not even covered by the law in this case, he should have packed up and gone home to Chicago and gone back to prosecuting real criminals. In fact, I have yet to have anyone show me how national security has been compromised by this case. I asked the same question about Clinton’s perjury and if it in any way affected his ability to govern. No one was ever able to give me a cogent answer on that one either!

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

-=-

Andy-Dull-ish

I would love to see Richard Armitage (another PNAC Crony) go down in flames over this. Yes he too is guilty as sin and should pay dearly for his part in all of this.

What you have to understand is that Libby sacrificed himself for his good buddy Cheney. He wasn’t “MADE” the fall guy. He “TOOK” the job as the fall guy.

This (opinion) takes a pretty good look at this issue.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=29442

What is unsettling is that people in the Bush administration were aware of these events all along and played the game of covering-up the VP’s mistakes. Yet we went to war with these very same people fully aware of it being unjustified!

Bush still hasn’t fired anyone (in his administration) for their part in leaks either as he publicly declared!

Libby fell upon his sword to save the idealism of these Neocon ChickenHawks!

Tough cookies - for him!, but I hope the facts continue to be discovered in this fiasco! There are still puppet masters pulling he strings.

Thomas/PNAC

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

{{Shrill is shrill. Cloak your arguments in fact and reason, and then you might change some minds.}}

Good advice, Fuddy — now, if you would only heed your own words…

By Mike

March 7, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

“This was a political show trial, and partisans of Joe Wilson will use the guilty verdict to declare vindication. But along the way we learned that virtually all the claims Wilson and his supporters made were false:

* On his trip to Niger, Wilson found no evidence that contradicted the famous "16 words" in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address, contrary to his New York Times op-ed claim. * Plame, his wife, who worked for the CIA, did recommend him for the Niger junket, contrary to Wilson's denials. * Plame was not a covert agent under the definition of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, contrary to Wilson's insinuations, which many of his backers, including in the press, presented as fact. * No one from the White House "leaked" Plame's identity as a CIA functionary to Robert Novak, who received the information from Richard Armitage at the State Department."

By Paul

March 7, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Old Fuddy Duddy

Hang in there. Every so often a new concept is explored, a mind is changed, debate is carried on in a nonpersonal way. Yeah, there are a number here who really like to engage each other on a different level - and that’s just fine - for them. What I’m saying is you can easily pick the discussions in which you want to take part.

So, Old Fuddy Duddy, should those receiving public assistance retirement embrace a small change in benefits calculations to lessen the burden on the younger generation? Should someone who lives for “now” and spends every dime he makes be looked at when he’s old as “you poor, unfortunate person, we have to take care of you” while the person who had a lifetime of living beneath his means, forgoing new cars and leases to invest in his future be viewed as “a selfish rich person who shouldn’t receive as much Social Security because he doesn’t need it?”

Or, does advocacy of a principle which one shows he or she has difficulty following invalidate the principle?

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

Link to this folks … the candidate [Edwards] doesn’t believe Americans are doing a good job of living like Jesus. Edwards � who has drawn fire from some for his new $6 million, 28,000 square-foot mansion in North Carolina � says, “I think that Jesus would be disappointed in our ignoring the plight of those around us who are suffering and our focus on our own selfish short-term needs. I think he would be appalled, actually.”

I remember a bit from Sunday school years ago (I am paraphrasing here) - Jesus said to the rich young ruler: Sell everything you have and give it to the poor. He walked away sadly because he owned much. Jesus then said to his desciples: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven….

This case is clearly one of glass houses. Again, the hypocrisy is palpable - just as it is with those who want to abolish all abortions or any form of birth control and then don’t adopt the unwanted children!

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

I know it’s way too much reality for you to comprehend, Dusty-brain. You’re just making lame excuses for the criminals in the White House, day after day…

By LMAO

March 7, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Yes Fuddy Duddy, Ha ha ha. Its hilarious how our government lied and manipulated facts that led this country to war. Its so funny that thousands of people have been killed. Its a riot that our injured soldiers return to inadequate healthcare.

We’re so glad you find it amusing.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Goldie - please cite one example of my being shrill.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Goldiedull,

Please advise what Libby was covering up for? Cheney did not leak Valerie Plame’s name, Armitage who hated the Bush administration, did the leaking, and Fitzgerald knew that all along.

Libby had zero motive to lie, and it came down to his memory versus Tim Russert’s in the end

As Andrea Mitchell testified, Valerie’s status at the CIA was a well known fact and was not a secret in the first place.

If Valerie’s life was so endangered, why did she send her blowhard partisan husband out on a mission to write an Op Ed filled with lies about what he found, and lie about who sent him on the mission in the first place?

Personally, I think that Wilson did this on purpose, knowing that he could box the administration in to the point that if they responded with the truth they’d be accused of leaking classified info.

I smell a big huge setup from the beginning. It won’t be the first time the CIA intentionally undermined the Bush administration and worked to undermine their foreign policy by>>>>>>>>>>>>>LEAKING classified info.

That theory makes a lot more sense than your tinfoil hat WMD crapola.

By OT

March 7, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

By Mike

March 7, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

�This was a political show trial, and partisans of Joe Wilson will use the guilty verdict to declare vindication. But along the way we learned that virtually all the claims Wilson and his supporters made were false:

Spin it anyway you want it Mike. Scooter is still going down river. I just wonder where this would have gone if ole scoot had declined to run interference for 5 deferment Dick.

By Lord Help Us

March 7, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Mike,

Basic facts that fly in the face of the serial whining of the narrow-minded this am:

-The investigation into the naming of a covert CIA agent was REQUESTED by the CIA. (one would think they know who is and isn’t covert…)

-The case was investigated and prosecuted by a BUSH APPOINTEE.

-The WHITE HOUSE issued an embarrassing and public statement that it SHOULD NOT HAVE included the assertion that Iraq was attempting to buy uranium ore from NIGER in the SOTU.

Facts are Facts…Face Them…

IF you have further complaints on these issues please direct them toward the CIA, Bush DOJ or White House.

Thanks in advance…

By Paul

March 7, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Old Fuddy 10:56

I have pretty much the same opinion - Starr and Fitzgerald both the same type. Unfortunately in the Federal system (not just in Justice) people’s promotions are based on whether or not the “program” was a success - and in this case that means trials and convictions. That’s the reality I see.

I could easily have voted “no” on both Pres Clinton’s and Libby’s cases - if for no other reason to “send a message” to Justice to knock it off.

By @@

March 7, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Paul says:

(((And possibly, just possibly, a requirement that at the outset of all such investigations, a finding of fact in the case (were allegations based in fact) to decide if the investigation should ever go forward?)))

Amen Paul, but then we couldn’t profess to be part of the political process. It is, afterall, the intended purpose behind special prosecutors.

As long as we’re on the outside looking in, all we’ve got is speculation, like Fuddy Duddy said. The problem is too many have the need to pull the trigger of the political gun, and that’s rather fun to watch here.

I’m off to work. That’s somewhere that I can really make a difference. One child at a time.

Have fun everybody.

By w00t

March 7, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Hey, BD, ever heard of the simplest theory is usually the right one?

Yours is nothing more than wishful thinking set in an episode of “24”

By Dusty

March 7, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

No Paul,

I shudder at woulda, coulda, shoulda. But NO, it aint over ‘til the fat lady sings and she can sing for an appealingly long time.

So there’s my colloquialism for today. The trial was a farce. I will not give up the ship, etc, etc., etc..

Did you hit your thumb with a hammer yesterday? You don’t sound happy.

By UGAlaw

March 7, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

UGA law - your argument is a valid one, except that it is much more complicated than that. And since perjury is a crime, what about Bill Clinton�s perjury? How do you feel abou that. I believe that case was completely crazy too, but what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Do not complain that Clinton was hounded by an overzealous prosecutor and then applaud what has happened to Libby.

Had Bill Clinton been tried and convicted I would have had the same opinion that I have about Libby’s conviction. Just because justice may not have been done in one case has absolutely no bearing on another. My point is that there is no reason to be advocating for Scooter Libby. He is a big boy and a very smart one. He knew what he was doing from minute one and chose to take that chance. Libby did the crime. No circumstance changes that. And by the way, just because one prosecutor does his job and another did not, does not mitigate the Libby case in any way.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

By Lord Help Us March 7, 2007 10:22 AM The investigation was requested by the CIA and prosecuted by a BUSH appointee.

Like I said, all the hack dullards are out today.

David Souter was appointed by a Conservative president, numbnuts.

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By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 7, 2007 10:58 AM What you have to understand is that Libby sacrificed himself for his good buddy Cheney.

Judge Dullard of GasBaghdad: So when did you hold Cheney’s trial?

Was it in your basement?

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By Seriously

March 7, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Dusty if you think the trial was a farce then you hate America.

By Rob Tornoe

March 7, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Another awesome cartoon Mike. Here’s here’s my take on the Scooter Libb verdicty, who by-the-way should really change his name before he enters prison:

To view my cartoon, click here.

By Rob Tornoe

March 7, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Another awesome cartoon Mike. Here’s here’s my take on the Scooter Libb verdicty, who by-the-way should really change his name before he enters prison:

To view my cartoon, click Link:here

By w00t

March 7, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Regarding Plame’s CIA Status:

FACT: CIA, Former Colleagues, And Special Prosecutor All Report That Plame Was Covert. The CIA filed a �crime report� with the Department of Justice shortly after Novak�s column, stating that an undercover agent�s identity had been blown. Larry Johnson, a former CIA officer, said �Valerie Plame was a classmate of mine from the day she started with the CIA. � All of my classmates were undercover.� Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald found that Plame had indeed done �covert work overseas� on counterproliferation matters in the past five years, and the CIA �was making specific efforts to conceal� her identity.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

{{In fact, I have yet to have anyone show me how national security has been compromised by this case.}}

Fuddy— are you even aware of the work that Valerie Plame was doing for the CIA???

By Paul

March 7, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty

Thumb’s fine, thanks. I guess this whole Libby thing is really, really important to people who think Cheny @ co. manipulated Bush and the entire Federal bureaucracy so they could start a war and kill Americans so their stock prices could rise. That they finessed events so well that they escape punishment for their crimes while working for their dream of turning America into a fascist dictatorship because they’re megalomaniacs. That a valiant special prosecutor, even though he couldn’t find indictable evidence of a crime, could at least convince a jury to find “guilty” so the entire Executive would know that even if they couldn’t get punished for conducting illegal wars and spying on Americans, well, by golly, we’ll show them that our system really really doesn’t condone lying!

And OJ was not guilty. So sayeth the jury.

Other than that, I’m fine. And you?

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

“Pssst, the skinny juror’s wife is a part-time stripper…”

LMAO!

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Which is exactly what your main problem is, Dusty-brain. No facts will ever interfere with your cheerleading efforts, and no criminals will ever be acknowledged as long as they are attached to your guy Dubya, is that it?

By Lord Help Us

March 7, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Lucko-crybaby,

I suggest that if you do not care for the prosecutors and judges appointed by the Presidents you support, perhaps you should reconsider your blind allegiance and redirect your logic-challenged rants…

Facts are Facts…Face Them…

By Dusty

March 7, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Seriously,

No, I don’t hate America. I just hate to see its values undermined by the likes of you. Now go celebrate on the playground with the other children.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

Plenty of evidence against Cheney came out in Scooter’s trial:

The specter of a nuclear-armed Iraq was central to Mr. Bush�s case for rushing to war. So, the trial testimony showed, Mr. Cheney orchestrated an assault on Mr. Wilson�s credibility with the help of Mr. Libby and others. They whispered to journalists that Mr. Wilson�s wife worked at the C.I.A. and that nepotism was the reason he had been chosen for the trip.— That is what we know from the Libby trial, and it is some of the clearest evidence yet that this administration did not get duped by faulty intelligence; at the very least, it cherry-picked and hyped intelligence to justify the war. What Mr. Wilson found, and subsequent investigations confirmed, was that there was one trip in 1999 � not �recently,� but four years before Mr. Bush�s statement � by an Iraqi official to Niger and that during that trip, uranium was never discussed. —What we still do not know is whether a government official used Ms. Wilson�s name despite knowing that she worked undercover. That is a serious offense, which could have put her and all those who had worked with her in danger.

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

-=-

Andy - (Ahem) - When did you hold the trial for Wilson? (was it in your garage bedroom?)

I have my opinions too jerk!

Wilson was not on trial here! Libby was! Libby was on trial for obstruction of justice. He was indicted! Period! That obstruction was in direct relation to the actions of Cheney and Libby.

Mr. Wilson was in no way even a part of this trial, It had nothing to do with Wilson, but you will quickly fog the issue by pointing your finger at Wilson and Plame (nyaa nyaa - they did it! Their the ones at fault!). (You whiner!)

Of course this is not over. Libby will most likely appeal. Also Wilson plans to bring charges against Cheney. Now at that point you can point your fingers at Wilson as he will be involved in that case. But please understand, that you (and I) can point all we want, but it will make absolutly no difference as to how the case goes! That will be up to the Courts themselves!

Good luck.

Thomas/PNAC

By UGAlaw

March 7, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

By Paul

March 7, 2007 11:41 AMThat a valiant special prosecutor, even though he couldn�t find indictable evidence of a crime,

He couldn’t? No indictable crime? LMAO! You need to rush that news flash to the grand jury, Scooter Libby, the defense council, prosecutor, judge, and jury. Sounds like immediate grounds for dismissal. ROFL! I am sure Scooter would like to wake up and find your hypothesis to be true.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

w00t— thanks for the link at 11:35… very comprehensive and telling re: what other CIA agents are thinking.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

Posted by Old Fuddy Duddy just this morning:

{{but the real spin is you fellows who just want blood, no matter what. You are just as bad as you accused Starr of being.}}

Shrill, shrill, shrill!

And that’s just from this morning…

By RE

March 7, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Armitage was one of the two sources used by Novak for his column. The other was rove. Wasn’t fitzgerald obligated to persue who gave armitage the information about plame and who, if anyone, gave instructions for putting her name out in the press to discredit wilson.

Hence, the investigation showing collaberation with the office of the vice president.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 7, 2007 11:55 AM Andy - (Ahem) - When did you hold the trial for Wilson? (was it in your garage bedroom?)

Judge Dullard of GasBaghdad: The bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, you dolt, I provided a link^^.

And your trial is on PMSNBC, maybe?

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By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

-=-

This is a sad story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17486305/

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By Paul

March 7, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

UGAlaw

Nonclarity from a quick composition notwithstanding, one should have been able to infer that the “indictable” referred to anyone who could be charged with knowingly revealed the identity of a covert agent or who was charged with leaking classified information to the press (that’s ever happened, when?).

A trial occurred, therefore someone was indicted. Duh.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

This is pretty hilarious, posted by Fuddy:

[“For the last time, I am NOT Edwin!”]

Fuddy, did you have a stroke or something this morning?

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Fuddyduddy,

Plenty of wealthy people, democrats and republicans, from the Rockefellers to the Kennedys have done a considerable amount of charitable giving and work for the poor and Edwards is no exception. (On the other hand the Bushes have done next to nothing in their private lives though Laura Bush expressed concern that victims of Katrina who were temporarily living in Texas would stay.)

Edwards has spent the last two years at the University of North Carolina establishing a group to work on poverty and finding means of reducing it during a period of growing inequality in America. He has a a record of charitable giving as well as being the only candidate thus far to seriously address the issue of poverty.

This kind of comment reminds me that many conservatives of late are in love with their attempt to point out “hypocrisy” as if it were a refutation of a position. Don’t want to talk about the merits of the case Gore made for global warming invoke some unreliable source about his utility bills as if that is relevant to any factual claims or arguments about global warming he has made.

Don’t like the Scooter verdict, see if we can scare up a democrat who perjured himself as if it refutes the guilty verdict based on considerable evidence available to the jury.

It’s called the ad hominem tu quoque fallacy and it refutes nothing. A person can be inconsistent in their practice (though Edwards is not) or even a hypocrite and their argument and claims remain unaffected.

By the way, fuddyduddy, you never provided a source for your claim that Wilson “lied.” He didn’t and you don’t have a credible source that he did. In fact, you have no source at all, it is merely a (false) assertion.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

w00t

Without getting sucked into this too much -

It’s been discussed before - people enter the CIA on one of two career paths - operations or other. Those in operations are “tagged” with that and all it entails their entire career. It’s rather a mystical badge of honor and sets them apart from others in the Agency. But, because they are Operations doesn’t mean they’re always covered by laws in the protection of their identities or functions. Lots of people in bureaucracies have opinions. How nice. What counts to prosecute under law is what the law specifically does or does not provide. In this case, that was not shown. Libby got dumb and lied. Never mess with prosecutors (Federal or otherwise). Like I’ve said, if your faith in the criminal justice system is based on what you’ve seen on Law and Order - you’re setting yourself up to get hosed.

Any other topics out there?

By Gimmeabreak

March 7, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

By Dusty

March 7, 2007 11:49 AM No, I don�t hate America. I just hate to see its values undermined by the likes of you. Now go celebrate on the playground with the other children.

Are you a regular user Dusty? You need to find a good methadone program.

By Chuck Lauria

March 7, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t it “Bush the Lessor’s” father that said identifying a CIA agent was treason?

It’s time we treat it as such; it is much more important that more nonsense from Dick Chicanery & company.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

RE— good, simple explanation at 12:02.

For some reason, the Neo-con trolls simply don’t want to know WHO gave Armitage the info to begin with. And we know that he didn’t read about it in “Vanity” magazine, like they keep repeating over over…

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

GoldilocksDull,

You’ve been asked 2 very simple questions today and have been unable answer either one.

Site examples of Cheney’s alleged “vindictiveness”.

Explain why Libby would lie for Cheney when it is Armitage who did the leaking - which Patrick “Nifong” Fitzgerald knew before the case went to trial.

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Mike,

Your claims about Joe Wilson’s findings and the 16 words are completely false. See the several posts I placed yesterday and the sources cited there.

This is a dead issue. The Bush administration itself retracted the Niger claim in July 2003 and Colin Powell himself said it was based on forged documents which he examined himself. But look at the posts I put up yesterday.

What is it with Bush supporters? They twist and spin and do everything to save their man’s positions and false claims no matter what the record.

It shouldn’t be surprising, I guess, to see that polls show a majority of Republicans still believe that there were WMD in Iraq at the time of the invasion despite the findings of the Duelfer Report which was published in October 2003 and continues to be updated with appendices.

But facts don’t matter in the world of “truthiness” and Alice in Wonderland “reality” of Fox television, right wing talk shows, and the White House.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Pequod,

Do you have any idea how much the Cheney’s donated to charity in one year?

And the Bushes?

It’s a matter of public record.

Your argument that Edwards is a better man than Bush because he spent 2 self-serving years to build up his resume’ for his fallacious “Two America’s” Presidential candidate theme is not particularly impressive.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Donut— please pay attention.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

UGA law - I don’t think I would want you either as a defense attorney or a prosecutor. You are missing too many of the fundamentals here. There was no underlying crime. Period. This kind of behavior is unethical on its face and should not be encouraged by any level of law enforcement. Convictions like this are a slippery slope, and I for one want EVERYBODY’S civil rights protected.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Goldie - I don’t know how what I said could be considered shrill because it is both true and balanced. I was castigating both sides for their shrillness, not just one. You have a penchant for “selective” citation. That is true of most partisans, but particularly those on this blog.

By BuyDanish'sJohn

March 7, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Pequod,

Do you have any idea how much the Cheney�s donated to charity in one year?

No, but I know how much I give to MY favorite charity every year. And even though I don’t get the tax writeoff they do I get a toothless pleasure that only you, Buy Danish, my sweet can give. See you tomorrow darlin! And please meet me at the door without the teeth in. Ya don’t have to be nekkid, but I do want the teeth out.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

{{What is it with Bush supporters? They twist and spin and do everything to save their man�s positions and false claims no matter what the record.}}

Pequod— you nailed it! And this is what we’re facing in America, with the remaining 30% who will not take in any new data at all — just no way they’re gonna do it. Some kind of brain-washing, huh?

By The Peoples for a Nuked' Amerika' Century~!

March 7, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

-=-

Andy? That was a trial for Wilson? The Senate Inteligence Committee? Wow - Who Knew!

So now the Senate is also the Justice Department as well! Cool!

That should make life in these United States much more interesting!

Trial by Committee! grins

Now seriously! If Wilson had perjured himself in front of the Senate Committee, don’t you think he’d be facing a Libby-Like trial too?

When it says - Libby’s Libby’s Libby’s - On the Label Label Label —-

So what we are saying once again - It is your “OPINION” that Wilson is guilty`!

Libby on the otherhand has been proven Guilty!

Now excuse me I have other issues (rather than your garbage) to attend to concerning friends in Enterprise, and someone I know who lost a son at the high-school.

Thomas/PNAC

By RE

March 7, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Here is another topic, kind of the case that there can only be one big story a day. The senate and house are holding hearings on the attorney firings yesterday and today. Seems like there were an awful lot of “coincidences” going on with the firings. the attorney in New Mexico “coincidently” got phone calls from Heather Wilson and Pete Dominici just before the elections questionning if he had released findings about the investigation of a dem politician. He was not going to release prior to the election. “coincidently” he was fired on 12/7.

John McKay in Seattle “coincidently” got a call from Doc Hastings chief of staff about investigations into dem voter fraud in the 2004 elections. He was fired.

Carol Lam prosecuted the case of Duke Cunningham which has also led to the indictment of dusty foggo at the CIA. Her investigation is also bringing into question the activities of Darrel Issa and Duncun Hunter. “Coincidently” she was fired.

None of these attorneys had ever recieved a negative evaluation from the DOJ.

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Fuddyduddy and the like minded.

Clinton’s sexual affairs had nothing to do with public policy or national security whereas Libby’s did.

If Congress had spent $40 million dollars investigating the sex lives of the House they would have been handing out subpoenas like traffic tickets, beginning with Newt Gingrich, then Speaker of the House, Livingston, Hyde and other Republicans to boot. Why do Republicans always forget the affairs of these politicians?

There is no comparison in the cases and Clinton’s sexual infelicities were of no consequence for the nation until the Republicans spent a fortune trying to get Clinton any way they could. Talk about hypocrisy? Give me a break.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Goldie - she had a desk job at the CIA headquarters in Langly, VA. She was an analyst of various terrorist threats around the world. She was doing “classified” work, but she was not a covered agent under the law. The CIA legal counsel did ask for an investigation, but the reason they did is still not clear because it has been clearly established by Fitzpatrick himself that she was not a “covered” agent. Therefore, there was no underlying crime. In the end it does not matter what she was doing for the CIA because none of that work was compromised and no one has ever alleged such. My source is US News and World Report.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Pequod - The Bushes have given much to charity as have the Cheneys. As have the Clintons. As have many people in public life. Edwards “project” is self aggrandisement, pure and simple. The Rockefeller Foundation was set up by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. (a dyed in the wool Republican) back in the 1920s. Jay Rockefeller gives little or none of his own money. The same goes for the Kennedys. Foundation money does not count! The Senate Intelligence Committee is the one which concluded that Wilson lied! You can do the research yourself on that one if you like. It’s easy to find. My problem with this entire affair is the politics behind it. I had the same problem with the Monica Lewinsky thing. It was all pure politics and not relevant to anything. Find a real crime and prosecute it. Please don’t go on fishing expeditions and create situations for perjury. I’m an old person and I have trouble remembering many things. Inconsistent memory is not perjury. There are also many psychological studies on that phenomenon anyway. I’m just asking everyone, liberal and conservative, to be consistent in their condemnations and not to do this t** for tat thing. It’s truly childish and it does not serve the nation in the end.

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

OFD, I guess you’re not old enough to know what happened to the political parties in the 30s.

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

For the record I will no longer engage in the petty back and forth so revered by the wingnut morons who make this blog a big part of their daily lives. I will only submit commentary from time to time on the topic at hand. That will make it easier to identify RW’s namejacking and elementary school tactics.

As far as Libby goes, I feel that his pardon is a done deal. Bush has not said he wouldn’t pardon him. Hell, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t get a medal. No one is ever held responsible for anything in this administration, and if Bush has to put the final nail in the coffin of his political legacy by pardoning Libby, trust me, he will. It’s a tale of lawlessness. Of an administration that thinks it’s holier than thou. Holier than the laws of this great country, holier than the courts, the Congress and the Constitution. Nothing gets in the way of a zealot, and Scooter Libby is just the latest zealot in a long line of Republicans in the Bush White House and Congress who simply don’t believe in the rules that govern our country, our society, and our world.

And they’re finally getting caught. Scooter will most certainly be pardoned, but nothing will wipe away the taint the next two years will leave on the Republican party for a long, long time.

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the compliment Goldie.

It seems that the percentage of Americans who believe that WMD was present in Iraq actually increased earlier this year. The source I read (PIPA or the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland) attributed the rise to a report on Fox television which I happened to see myself. (It featured a small quantity of inert chemicals left over from the 80s. Some stockpile.) Amazing, the administration gave up its WMD line for the “liberation of Iraq” defense a long time ago and the GOP media surrogate known as Fox is still trying to rescue their case.

So in these blogs we have seen a variety of humorous defenses of Libby. Invoking Clinton’s lying about a b*****, a variety of attacks on Wilson and Plame such as claiming, without a source, that Wilson lied or that he set up the Bush administration, the jury politicized the evidence after they spent 9 days carefully examining it, and on and on it goes. The funniest is the one about Libby’s memory lapses. (At least Reagan’s were believable since he was suffering from early stage Alzheimer’s.) The jury said that the record showed that Libby had discussed Plame’s identity with a number of people before he ever even talked to Russert. But the facts tend to get in the way of ideology.

By RE

March 7, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

But special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald found that Plame had indeed done “covert work overseas” on counterproliferation matters in the past five years, and the CIA “was making specific efforts to conceal” her identity, according to newly released portions of a judge’s opinion.

Newsweek, current edition

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

{{she had a desk job at the CIA headquarters in Langly, VA. She was an analyst of various terrorist threats around the world.}}

Fuddy— specifically, Mrs. Wilson was working on info re: IRAN getting nuclear weapons. And you continue to act like that has nothing to do with “national security” (as you posted just this morning).

You may need to up your meds, Dude.

By RE

March 7, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Fitzgerald did insist that Mrs. Wilson’s “association with the CIA was classified,” which would make leaking her occupation a crime.

Newsmax from back in 2005

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Pequod @ 12:38,

You just proved that you don’t know WTF you are talking about and are working from a starting point of misinformation and ignorance.

Livingston’s past affairs being made public was not the result of $40 million dollars worth of subpeonas!

It also had nothing to do with why Clinton was impeached, but Clinton should have done what Livinston did and resigned.

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, Cheney the philanthropist. Screw America over then toss it a nickel for its troubles.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

{{Find a real crime and prosecute it. Please don�t go on fishing expeditions and create situations for perjury.}}

So Fuddy— according to your rules for prosecution, once someone seems to be lying, just leave ‘em alone — no harm to our judicial system, hmmm?

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

RE

I stayed up late last night and read the transcipts from the hearing.

Some verrrry interesting stuff.

I would say that there’s something fishy in Denmark, but you know who might be offended.

Josh Marshall has been doing a great job on this story. This one is not going to go away either.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Pequod - you also need to get your facts straight. Starr spent $40 million on the entire Whitewater investigation and got a record number of convictions, including the Governor of Arkansas and Webb Hubble, the Deputy Attorney General. Those were worth while. I have repeatedly stated today and since 1998 that the Lewinsky affair was just plain stupid. So was Bill Clinton for the way he handled it. But it NEVER should have been investigated with one penny of special prosecutors’ funds. This is much the same situation. Fitzgerald himself has never alleged any kind of breach of security in this case. The fact that he even investigated it is really mind boggling since he knew that Armitage was the source of the leak! He also stated from the beginning that Rove was NOT a target of the investigation. Bringing his name up repeatedly is also a red herring. Overzealous political prosecutions are just plain wrong, no matter to whom it is done. In the end at least Starr did not prosecute, but left it to the politicians in the Lewinsky affair. The Republicans were just petty enough to make a big deal out of it. They also paid a political price for it in 1998. Just ask former-Speaker Gingrich!

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Dammit - My comments keep disappearing. I posted details of Cheney, Kerry and Al Gore’s charitable giving for Pequod.

I don’t have time right now to redo the freaking thing.

AJC Mangagement:

Is one of the moonbat parrots working for you as a comment gatekeeper? For the last 2 days many of my comments have not made it on the blog.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

By Goldie March 7, 2007 12:16 PM For some reason, the Neo-con trolls simply don�t want to know WHO gave Armitage the info to begin with.

Her skull must be so dense even bullets would bounce off:

Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it. Woodward: Everyone knows? Armitage: Yeah. And they know �cause {{{{{{Joe Wilson�s been calling everybody.}}}}}} He�s p* off �cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he�s all p* off.

Wilson is probably just as dumb as Goldie is, it doesn’t take much to come off as pinko genius. Remember this is the dude that came up with “frogmarch.” He got off the plane from Niger, fresh from his “fact finding” mission and reported directly to the New York Times, not the CIA.

The things that he told about his trip REINFORCED the fact that Saddam was shopping for yellowcake.

This idiot gave up his wife in a fit of ignorant rage, bigger than sh-it.

Just like Armitage said.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By UGAlaw

March 7, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

UGA law - I don�t think I would want you either as a defense attorney or a prosecutor. You are missing too many of the fundamentals here. There was no underlying crime. Period. This kind of behavior is unethical on its face and should not be encouraged by any level of law enforcement. Convictions like this are a slippery slope, and I for one want EVERYBODY�S civil rights protected.

Maybe you should inform the Libby Grand Jury that there was no “underlying crime” Fuddy. Better yet, give Patrick Fitzgerald a call. I am sure he would appreciate your wealth of legal training and expertise. And I would appreciate a definition of these “fundamentals” that I, the Grand Jury, the judge, Patrick Fitzgerald, et all are missing. And Fuddy. That slippery slope you are talking about? Is that the one that we would be sliding down if prosecutors ignored crimes committed to impede or derail a criminal investigation? And Fuddy, I was under the impression that Scooter committed the crime of perjury before it had been determined that no charges could be brought in the outing investigation. And while you are at it, please tell us all whose civil rights were violated? And please tell us how being interviewed during the course of an investigation could possibly be a violation of one’s civil rights? Every single one of us has the right to request council during the course of an interview if we think that our “civil rights” are being violated. And while you are giving me my legal education here, please tell me how a Republican Special Prosecutor appointed by a Republican DOJ was unethical? Or do you consider the prosecutor’s doing his job and obtaining conviction by a jury of peers to be unethical? Would it not have been unethical for him to ignore crimes committed during the investigation and fail to prosecute the crimes?

By Brian Curtis

March 7, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

So the Libby trial is now “unimportant” and “a waste of taxpayer money,” eh? Funny stuff coming from the guys who blew years and millions investigating a land deal…

Does anyone doubt that, if Libby’d gotten off, the Bushdrones wouldn’t be here crowing about this Major Triumph for King George’s Administration?

I guess it’s like a Pulitzer Prize, a Nobel award, an Oscar or an Emmy… if your boy doesn’t win it must be both unimportant and anti-American.

Them’s some might sour grapes, Bushdrones.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

RE - then why did he NOT indict Armitage? Her work was classified. She was not a covered agent. Almost all CIA work is classified. Also, there is no evidence that anyone, including Armitage or Libby, knew whether or not she was a covered agent. There was no mens rea.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

By The Peoples for a Nuked’ Amerika’ Century~! March 7, 2007 12:35 PM Andy? That was a trial for Wilson? The Senate Inteligence Committee? Wow - Who Knew! So now the Senate is also the Justice Department as well! Cool! That should make life in these United States much more interesting! Trial by Committee! grins Now seriously! If Wilson had perjured himself in front of the Senate Committee, don�t you think he�d be facing a Libby-Like trial too? When it says - Libby�s Libby�s Libby�s - On the Label Label Label �-So what we are saying once again - It is your �OPINION� that Wilson is guilty`! Libby on the otherhand has been proven Guilty!Thomas/PNAC

Supreme Court Judge Dullard Of GasBaghdad: Did you wet your pants?

Why all the excitement?

And why are you taking away Congress’s investigative powers?

And giving them to PMSNBC?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By IN THE NEWS

March 7, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

The United States will not seek a seat on the UN Human Rights Council, senior officials said Tuesday, asserting the body had lost its credibility with repeated attacks on Israel and a failure to confront other rights abusers.

NICE GUYS

By Midori

March 7, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

“Some">http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/">“Some say that Libby took a bullet for Dick Cheney, but Cheney normally delivers the bullet himself”

By DumbDetector

March 7, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Pequod @ 12:38,

You just proved that you don�t know WTF you are talking about and are working from a starting point of misinformation and ignorance

Damn! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Buy Danish you are truly a classic.

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

ANALYSIS - In public’s mind, White House is guilty. Its campaign to discredit its detractors will be remembered after Libby is forgottent

In other words, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Libby’s just the first domino in a long line of Bush/Cheney cronies who are going to topple. Wouldn’t that be nice?

Of course, Bush could always dismiss Fitz, just like he did with the federal prosecutor who nailed disgraced GOP lawmaker Duke “never saw bribe I didn’t like” Cunningham.

Will there be a special Bush executive branch wing at Guantanamo for these traitors? Waterboards with Perrier? One HAS to wonder.

Happy Fitzmas!

By DumbDetector

March 7, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Oh, Danish. And while I got you here, could I have one of those toothless treats too? I’d just about give you $15 for it if it is as good as the other guy says it is.

By Seriously

March 7, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Right on Blackadder, welcome back! I for one think your comments are some of the best. Don’t let the fools get to you.

By jacksonwolff

March 7, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

from wikipidia-

*The Boston Globe reported: “Former intelligence officials confirmed Plame’s cover was an invention and that she used other false identities and affiliations when working overseas… ‘When she was abroad she had a more viable cover.’”.[1]. And Knight Ridder reported (19 October 2003):

Compounding the damage, the front company, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, the name of which has been reported previously, apparently also was used by other CIA officers whose work now could be at risk, according to Vince Cannistraro, former CIA chief of counterterrorism operations and analysis. Now, Plame’s career as a covert operations officer in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations is over. Those she dealt with — on business or not — may be in danger. The directorate is conducting an extensive damage assessment. And Plame’s exposure may make it harder for American spies to persuade foreigners to share important secrets with them, U.S. intelligence officials said.*

Mrs. Wilson was a NOC(non-offical cover) operative for the CIA. She had the same type of passport as you or me. If she were to have been caught overseas doing the work that WE trained her to do, she would have been given NO offical support from the U.S. government. She was no mere desk jockey.

Also, she was not the only employee of “Brewster, Jennings, and Assts.” So whoever leaked her identity also put all those other people in danger.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrewsterJennings%26_Associates)

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Hey Blackadder— thanks for posting again!

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

UGA law - That there was no underlying crime is quite clear. There was no prosecution of anyone for outing Valerie Plame as a covered agent. Anyway, once Fitzgerald knew that Armitage was the one who “leaked” the name, then he should have stopped there. That would have only been ethical. Fitzpatrick was given a blank check and once an independent prosecutor has the authority, he can go “where the case leads him.” That was the excuse given by Starr. He even got the permission of Attorney General Reno. It was still wrong. What Fitzgerald did was INDEPENDENT of the Justice Department. No President would even think of firing an independent counsel or presecutor after what happened on a certain night in 1973, which I remember well. The wolves would really be at the door, and no President is that stupid, no matter what you might think. It is also rather silly to defend Fitzpatrick because he was appointed by a Republican. That would be like defending Starr because he was appointed by a Democrat. The Republicans used that argument way back when and it didn’t work then either.

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Cheney’s Suspected Role in Security Breach Drove Fitzgerald

Maybe Fitz WONT be the victim of a Bush style “Saturday Night Massacre’.

He’s got too much on too many people. Maybe, just maybe, right up to Darth Cheney himself.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

By bon scott March 7, 2007 1:14 PM Happy Fitzmas!

The proper context would be {{{merry}}} Fitzmas, you nimrod.

A thousand posts under your belt, you still haven’t gotten anything right.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By The Watcher

March 7, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

This should earn the muffin some important friends….

Is one of the moonbat parrots working for you as a comment gatekeeper? For the last 2 days many of my comments have not made it on the blog.

It kind of like telling the waitress how rotten she is before you get your food. Real bright.

Got Spit?

By Lord Help Us

March 7, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Lucko-crybaby,

If Wilson’s trip to Niger, ‘REINFORCED the FACT that Saddam was shopping for yellowcake’ then why did the WHITE HOUSE retract its assertion that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger?

Facts are Facts…Face Them…

Can’t wait for this one…

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

{{Funny stuff coming from the guys who blew years and millions investigating a land deal}}

BrianC— yeah, and real funny about how they manipulated the intel to justify to Americans how we just HAD to invade Iraq in ‘03. The stupidity and gross incompetence from this administration would be truly funny, were it not for the thousands dead because of their lies!

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Thank you Goldie - I decided that to stay away might somehow validate RW’s meltdown last Friday. I will, however, not respond to their petty and insulting comments. That too seems to validate them in their minds and we all know they are not to be believed or trusted.

By RE

March 7, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

OK Fuddy,

Which case are you trying to make?

that Plame was not covert, that disclosing her classified activities was not a violation of law, or that Libby et al did not know she was covert or doing classified work.

By UGAlaw

March 7, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Scooter was not charged with that Fuddy. He was charged with obstruction and perjury. What do you not understand about the statutes that prohibit lying to investigators investigating a crime? Do you want a system that allows that?

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Fuddyduddy,

I agree that Bush’s father has engaged in charitable work and giving, most recently with Clinton. (The son has no such reputation for such philanthropy.) Not that it is the issue, but Bill and Hillary Clinton, working with others has raised more money than virtually anyone in politics. They established the Clinton Foundation alone with $5 million and have raised billions in corporate funds to fight AIDS, disease and poverty through his annual Clinton Global Initiative conference. (But it may not count for some conservatives because some celebrities are also active donors.)

Many members of the long Rockefeller family have given money and who says that foundations don’t count? Bill Gates’ foundation is not giving money to the poor? Foundations are paradigm cases of philanthropy. The Marcus family of Home Depot, Bush supporters, have foundations that distribute money and services to those in need all over Atlanta.

I think that what really matters is not who or how much this or that politician is able or willing to give but rather the kinds of policies they pursue. Edwards is trying to develop intelligent practical policies which can address the huge disparity in income and the poverty in the United States which exceeds that of any other Western country. The policies of the Republican Congress and White House have done nothing to address these issues.

By Midori

March 7, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Cpl. Matt Sanchez, the ex-Marine appeared on Hannity & Colmes alleging that while studying at Columbia University, he was called a “baby-killer” by members of that school’s International Socialist Organization. This alleged episode, which was investigated by Columbia but never confirmed, also earned Sanchez a spot on the O’Reilly Factor. Cpl. Matt Sanchez was once a gay porn star and male prostitute. For his supposed courage in the face of liberal cruelty, Cpl. Sanchez was presented with the Jeanne Kirpatrick Academic Freedom Award at this year’s CPAC. Sanchez was the perfect vehicle for the conservative movement’s ongoing attempt to wrap itself in the uniform, and to heap resentment on liberals for their supposed anti-military bias.

By UGAlaw

March 7, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Fuddy, Libby committed a crime. He was convicted and now will do the time. All Libby had to do was not lie and he would be free and clear would he not? And Fuddy, in the face of your denial of the obvious legality of this prosecution and your rationalizations, please never defend yourself in a court of law. Jails are full of guys that used rationalizations such as the ones you are using today. The only thing that matters is the technical letter of the law Fuddy. Lewis Libby was intelligent enough to take what he considered an acceptable risk for whatever reason. He lost, he pays. Simple as that Fuddy.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

To the veterans being featured in these stories, I�d just like to say two things: where your treatment has been sub-par, you deserve much, much better; and when you�re rehabilitated and independent, don�t look for your new friends in the media to be there anymore. The satellite truck wasn�t there for you when you patriotically joined up, or graduated boot camp, or were deployed to Iraq, or saw your first combat. You were not a photogenic subject of their interest when your morale was high and you were gung ho and squared away and fighting for victory. It�s only certain soldiers the media seems to focus on. Unfortunately for you, when you were wounded while heroically fighting for our country (thank you), you finally qualified to be the kind of soldier the mainstream media likes — a victim. For their phony concern and willingness to make a spectacle of you, you have my honest sympathy.

In a war, the eternal rule of propaganda is that you should accentuate your enemy�s losses and minimize obsessing on your own to achieve a psychological advantage. Yet whose deaths do the media amplify? Their enemies? If the war would have gone better, they probably would have added in training accidents in Kansas and California. I wonder what the running count of al Qaeda dead is? I�ve never heard.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Glad to see you Blackadder

I too have had my patience sorely tried more than once around here.

You do good work, we need you.

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Fuddy,

Libby’s memory claims were highly selective and self-serving and the jury legitimately found them unconvincing. In fact, they viewed his conveniently poor recollection as a form of lying. (I used to work in cognitive psychology so I am familiar with much of the research on memory.)

No offense, you don�t seem like a bad guy, but I don’t think you remember the claim about Wilson’s lying accurately and you were unable to provide any specific report or record. I have not seen that claim made anywhere and I have read a lot about Wilson and his report on Niger.

Furthermore, I gave you 5 different sources showing that the Bush administration’s State of the Union claim was false and it was even retracted by them. And you and others keep attacking Wilson when the real distortion took place in the State of the Union Speech itself.

I think there is a huge difference between Clinton’s behavior, which hardly constituted impeachable offenses, and that of Libby, who almost certainly on orders from Rove or Cheney, decided to ruin the career of a woman in the CIA.

Both are political, both were motivated by Republicans and there is a lot more of this vindictive behavior and corruption in the Republican Party than there is in the Democratic Party. Agnew�s resignation, Watergate, Nixon�s taping and enemies list, Iran-Contra had much greater import for the nation than a passing affair with an intern.

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Caption on the bottom of the screen on FOX News:

LIBBY CONVICTED ON 4 COUNTS BUT WAS THERE EVEN A CRIME?

FOX News: We Propagandize, Because We Know Our Viewers Don’t Want To Think For Themselves.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

RE 12:36

Sorry for the delay - just back from lunch - then another couple appts.

I saw a blurb on that. Interesting development - includes Congressional influence, not just Executive. This appears to be more than the normal “leaning on” people in these positions experience. Justice ought to have rules in place to report and document any such “contacts” regarding pending cases. Don’t want to make a bureaucratic nightmare, but if those doing the contacting knew there’d be a record as part of the official file, maybe it would decrease.

By FAUXPAUX

March 7, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Old Fuddy Duddy puhleeeeze!! Since you can’t accept the legal truth from fellow bloggers I have a suggestion. Go to your beloved Fox News and hear their legal analyst, Judge Anthony Napolitano break it down for you. The good judge will tell you that it was a legal and valid prosecution. He will also tell you that Scoot has no chance for a new trial and very little chance of winning an appeal. You can’t spin it. No matter how hard you try.

By Midori

March 7, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

BlackAdder,

wise decision, Friend.

Don’t take their bait.

All they have is spin, nonsense and stupid name calling. Followed by more spin, nonsense and name calling.

those of you trying to get thru to these neanderthals are to be commended.

BTW Buy Danish: Livingstone was “outed” for his hypocrisy by Larry Flynt.

Flynt personally took it upon himself to out the hypocritical serial adulterers on the right during Clinton’s impeachment.

Another thing you neaderthals have wrong is the cost of said impeachment and it’s investigation - it was more than $70 million.

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Dennis Collins, the only jury member to address the media after the verdict, explains how the panel came to their decision, and offered some interesting insight into the deliberation process.

In the final analysis, he said jurors found Libby’s story just too hard to believe.

“It was just very hard to believe how he could remember it on a Tuesday and forget it on a Thursday and then remember it two days later,” Collins told reporters outside U.S. District Court. “Having said that, I will say that there was a tremendous amount of sympathy for Mr. Libby on the jury.”

“It was said a number of times, ‘What are we doing with this guy here? Where’s [Karl] Rove � where are these other guys?’

“We’re not saying we didn’t think Mr. Libby was guilty of the things we found him guilty of, but it seemed like � he was the fall guy.”

Collins said the jury believed Libby was “tasked by the vice president to go and talk to reporters.”

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Danish, you are both unnecessarily rude and also seem to be semi-literate. This is what I said and how did you arrive at the interpretation you presented in your post?

“If Congress had spent $40 million dollars investigating the sex lives of the House they would have been handing out subpoenas like traffic tickets, beginning with Newt Gingrich, then Speaker of the House, Livingston, Hyde and other Republicans to boot. Why do Republicans always forget the affairs of these politicians?”

Notice the “if” rendering this a conditional or hypothetical statement.

I agree that Clinton should have resigned but not that his offenses were impeachable ones. The Congressional investigations had rendered him an ineffective president and he should have stepped aside and allowed Gore to continue to pursue the policies of his second term.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

RE 12:59

Excellent link. Bears watching. The question that came to mind, though is - they’re only just now figuring this out?!!? How many years have passed? That should have been one of the the first questions answered. Heck, even at his news conference announcing the indictments Fitzgerald mealymouthed the entire topic - nothing nearly as clear as this. Doesn’t give me a “warm and fuzzy” about the competence or integrity of some of these folks at Justice - especially when tied into your earlier post.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

{{That there was no underlying crime is quite clear. There was no prosecution of anyone for outing Valerie Plame as a covered agent.}}

Fuddy— you forgot to mention the reason why there was no “underlying crime” as you like to call it… Cheney had Bush declassify the information just so that he could leak it to the reporters! Please stop trying to leave out who the real criminals are here — thank you.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull 1:08

Your Armitage quote is the best definition yet of motive for Joe Wilson. Washington egos. Still laughing -

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla and Midori - I thank you for your kind words.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Fuddy— why not just ‘fess up that you’re simply another cheerleader for Dubya’s policies and will never ever be able to think or see outside of that realm…

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

In light of John Edwards’ refusal to participate in the FOX News Democratic Presidential debate, I contacted Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and encouraged them not to validate FOX by participating.

Of course those on the right will say that is cowardice but who cares? We’ve endured worse. FOX has been proven to be a shill for the Republicans and to give them any credence is sheer lunacy.

If you haven’t seen Robert Greenwald’s Outfoxed you should.

By Writer's block

March 7, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Poor Libby took such a long fall from being Time Mag’s Person of the Year to now needing an pardon.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

UGA law - How could Libby have obstructed justice if there were no case? The fact is, no one was prosecuted for the underlying case.

I cannot remember who made the comment, but there certainly won’t be a Saturday Night Massacre here because Fitzgerald has already announced that he considers the case closed and he and his associates will be “going back to our day jobs.” The solution is to issue a pardon, but that is the President’s choice and only his choice, per the Constitution. Ask Mr. Clinton about Mark Rich. This entire episode is a travesty of justice and Fitzgerald is unethical, pure and simple. He should have closed up shop the minute he found out who “leaked” the information.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Blackadder— too funny! And too bad that so many people still think they’re hearing “the news” when they watch that station…

By getalife

March 7, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Outing a undercover CIA operative is not funny.

This is not lying about a blow job.

The consequences for this treason effects our intelligent community.

You know, the ones to stop the next attack.

It is the ongoing destruction of our country and the wingnuts cheer on the cheerleader.

Just freaking pathetic.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Blackadder

Thanks for the suggestion regarding the debate.

Maybe its time Faux news had to scramble for access.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

FAUXPAS - I did not say that it was not a legal prosecution. I said that it was an unethical one. There is a big difference. When there is no underlying crime you simply have an overzealous prosecutor who is on a fishing expedition trying to find a crime because he is seeking publicity and fame. Independent Prosecutors have abused their authority over and over and should be limited strictly by law in that authority. Maybe that day will come.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

OldFuddyDuddy

Take heart from all this. Those on the “Left” on this forum have shown themselves to be zealous protectors of the rule of law and the protection of classified information, willing to endure years of investigations to find and punish leakers.

Soooo, the next time there’s a leak, say along the lines of a story about the CIA’s classified rendition program, or the government’s program to intercept communications originating from other than the US, well, you can be assured these same folks will be screaming bloody murder to find and punish the leakers.

We’re all for consistency, right?

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Yes the information was declassified. But the reason there was no case has nothing to do with information, classified or otherwise. The reason there is no underlying case is that Valerie Plame was NOT a covered agent under the statute. Also, Armitage was the one who was the source and not Libby. Fitzgerald knew this almost from the start and still persued an “investigation”. The absurdity of all of this is too much. I have to go now. Please try to be nice folks.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

{{Wilson is probably just as dumb as Goldie is, it doesn�t take much to come off as pinko genius.}}

Adny-dull, just how dumb do YOU have to be for believing what Armitage was telling Bob Woodward about Joe Wilson — of course he’s gonna say that Wilson was telling everybody, you DUMB@SS!

And why would you even consider that being interviewed by Woodward is the same as testifying to a grand jury? Armitage had every reason to LIE to Woodward, you JERK.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

{{{By rushncap

March 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Ah yes, Cheney the philanthropist. Screw America over then toss it a nickel for its troubles.}}

Rushncap,

As a percentage of their income, I dare say that the Cheneys generously donated far more than you do with your Texas hold ‘em winnings, and I hardly think you are wealthy enough to call $6.87 million dollars a “nickel”.

The Cheneys donated just under $6.87 million to charity from the stock options and royalties from Mrs. Cheney�s books. That left about $1.9 million in income on which the Cheney�s owed $529,636 in taxes.

Kinda makes all the accusations about him being a greedy Haliburton employee ridiculous doesn’t it?

PARROT!,

I know it was Larry Flynt, you Squawking fool. I don’t doubt that you think that that disgusting pig is a really nice guy too and a valuable public servant Parrot-think says, Cheney bad, Flynt good.

BTW, are you “The Watcher” by any chance? It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that you work for the AJC, which the Watcher seems to be implying.

Pequod,

I’m rude? Do you just skip over the vulgar comments made about me from your political comrades like “Dumb Detector” on this blog?

I misread your statement, but the fact remains that there was no reason to investigate Livington’s sex life since he was not preparing phony affadavits for his paramour to sign with the help of DC lawyers like Vernon Jordan.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Charles Darwin had no understanding of molecular biology. That’s why he was free to speculate that if an animal flapped its arms long enough they might someday turn into wings — wings he could leave to his offspring. But today we know that’s not the way molecular biology works. Also, back in the days of Darwin, he was free to speculate that certain apes began using tools and became dominant over other apes. The survival of the fittest led to a new breed of apes — tool-using apes. But the problem with that is you’re still dealing with apes. How does the species transition into a new species? Where has that ever happened? How could it without one species dying out first?

Evolutionists don’t have answers to these questions.

Like you need to tell me the libs have no answers, shees.

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By RE

March 7, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

OFD, should Fitz have looked into who provided armitage the information, and should he have looked into how many other reporters were provided with the same information to determine if it was or was not common knowledge?

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Getapair,

Very slowly now, repeat after me:

Joe Wilson outed his own wife.

Now say it as often as necessary for that fact to get through your thick feverish skull.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

{{This entire episode is a travesty of justice and Fitzgerald is unethical, pure and simple. He should have closed up shop the minute he found out who �leaked� the information.}}

Fuddy— you keep leaving out the part where Cheney leaked the info to Scooter and told him to give it to some specific reporters. It’s all in Scooter’s grand jury testimony… you really should update your sources, Dude.

Oh, and you keep leaving out the part where Cheney asked Bush to declassify the info so that there would be no “underlying crime” as you keep calling it…

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Snake,

Thank you for bringing up registered Democrat, WaPo reporter, Tim Russert neighbor, associate of Bob Woodward and author of book on spying, Dennis Collins.

He bought into Fitzfong’s Cheney conspiracy lie, hook, line and sinker.

By RE

March 7, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Ahh Paul,

Question for you, can you classify an illegal program to prevent it’s disclosure. The two examples you cite were illegal.

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Fuddyduddy,

The bulk of the Starr report’s text was devoted to the Lewinsky scandal and that became the focus after Whitewater turned up nothing credible on the Clinton’s despite the vigorous efforts of those who wanted to get him by any means possible.

As Gary Wills wrote, Starr lent himself to the schemes of people with an almost total disregard for the law. A man of honor would not have accepted his appointment by a right-wing judge to replace Robert Fiske, a Republican general counsel who was a distinguished prosecutor. Not only did Starr have no prosecutorial experience; he had already lent support to Paula Jones’s suit against the President. He continued private practice for right-wing causes with right-wing funding. Five former presidents of the American Bar Association said that he had conflicts of interest for which he should recuse himself.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Does any body get the difference between leaking and whistleblowing?

Leaking - An unauthorized or a deliberate disclosure of confidential information

Whistle-blowing - a person informing on another or making public disclosure of corruption or wrongdoing.

Leaking is the crime.

Whistle-blowing is reporting the crime.

Bush broke the law when he wiretapped without warrant. Some may say that in this time of “War on Terror” that’s okee-dokee with them (not me, to be sure) but it is still in violation of the law.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

By Goldie March 7, 2007 2:26 PM Adny-dull, just how dumb do YOU have to be for believing what Armitage was telling Bob Woodward about Joe Wilson � of course he�s gonna say that Wilson was telling everybody, you DUMB@SS!

Would somebody mind telling me what Goldilocks is trying to say^^ this makes absolutely no sense.

If I ever get into a gun battle, I hope that Goldie’s head is nearby so I can take cover behind it.

Ain’t nothing going through that skull.

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By jacksonwolff

March 7, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

OFD-

Please check my above post. Valerie Plame WAS a NOC. She also ran a cover company for the CIA, and by exposing that cover company they didn’t just blow HER cover, they blew the covers of possibly hundreds of other agents in the field and in harms way.

the reason there was no crime is that they claimed that they didn’t KNOW that she was a NOC

please do not run down this woman’s service to her country just because you don’t like her husband.

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

The first step in your resurrection around here should be to admit that you jacked my name when you responded to Craig and then went nuts trying to cover your tracks. Continuing to blame your mental instability on me just proves you’re a lying sack of sh!t not worthy of anyone’s time or attention.

My offer to let the AJC staff release the origin of those posts stands. What about you?

By Midori

March 7, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

You see, Black Adder?

All the crone has is hate, spit and venom.

It’s best not to stand to close to her, or to respond to her viciousness and stupidity.

the more people try to inform her, the nastier she gets.

By IN THE NEWS

March 7, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

CRIPES, IT REALLY IS FALLING APART FOR THE BUSHIES

Senior Bush Official May Have Violated Law Trying To Block Pelosi From Appearing At Event House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) has uncovered more potentially illegal activity by the head of the General Services Administration, Lorita Doan.

Waxman has discovered that Doan �used a January 2007 teleconference to ask senior GSA officials to help �our candidates� in the next elections through targeted public events, such as the opening of federal facilities around the country.� Doan discussed with GSA officials �how to exclude House Speaker Nancy Pelosi from an upcoming courthouse opening in San Francisco and how to include Republican Senator Mel Martinez.� Doan�s activity is now being investigated as a potential violation of the Hatch Act, which prohibits partisan campaign activities on federal property.

Doan�s inappropriate (and potentially illegal) behavior extends beyond partisan hackery. Last summer, Doan signed a $20,000 no-bid contract for a 24-page report �promoting GSA�s use of minority- and women-owned businesses.�

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Mrs G,

Leaking-Releasing any information harmful to a Democrat

Whistle Blowing-Releasing any information harmful to a Republican.

You’re welcome! I will now banish myself forever again or until I post next, whichever comes first. Later!

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

Yes, you are rude and you cannot excuse your rudeness to me by citing someone else’s rudeness to you. A decent person would simply have apologized. Perhaps your penchant for spinning everything extends to rationalizing your own proclivities.

At least you had the decency to admit that you shot your vulgar mouth off because you misread what I wrote.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

What did Armitage know and why did he know it?

Thanks to LuckoDull we already know from esteemed reporter Bob Woodward that Wilson was the original leaker.

Here is Clifford May’s take on how Corn found out.

There’s also this:

Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely told WorldNetDaily that Wilson mentioned Plame’s status as a CIA employee over the course of at least three, possibly five, conversations in 2002 in the Fox News Channel’s “green room” in Washington, D.C., as they waited to appear on air as analysts.

Lying Joe Wilson is a vain, sociopathic blowhard - in short, a perfect Left Wing hero.

By Lord Doom

March 7, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

We finally got rid of that bastard Captain America. Now its Batman’s turn.

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Blackadder -

[you give great advise] (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/7/1452/88008)

By getalife

March 7, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Among intelligence insiders, there’s concern that nearly four years after the CIA called for an investigation into the leak of Plame’s name to reporters, no one has been charged for what they see as an unpardonable crime: outing an undercover operative. Valerie Plame belonged to that secretive circle of spies who spend most of their careers � in some cases, their whole lives � operating undercover. Within that circle, there appears to be mostly relief at the verdict. Larry Johnson, who was in Plame’s CIA class and has remained a close friend, calls it “wonderful news.”

By Midori

March 7, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

{{{A decent person would simply have apologized.}}}

there is nothing decent about the Hag, Pequod.

You post very informative and reasoned information.

thank you for that, and for trying to educate the hateful and vile.

By Lord Doom

March 7, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

Pequod,

Do you want some tissue sweetie? What a crybaby!!

By Midori

March 7, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Ah, those pargons of journalistic integrity: The National Review and World WingNut Daily.

what’s that about being a vain, sociopathic blowhard?

someone looked into the mirror, it appears.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks,

Repeat slowly after me: Armitage was not a member of the Bush Administration.

Perhaps you can explain why Fitzfong told Armitage to keep his role as the leaker quiet - a fact known to Fitzfong weeks before the trial began.

Do you know the meaning of the word “motive”, particularly when used to prosecute criminal cases?

What motive would Armitage have to “lie” to Woodward? What motive did Libby have to lie about his conversation with Russert when he knew Russert would be testifying himself? What motive did Fitzfong have to tell Armitage to zip his lips?

By Mrs. Godzilla

March 7, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

RW -

Always a pleasure….

Perhaps there is a job for you at Oxford or New American….

No wait, I think wikipedia is more appropriate!

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull - March 7, 2007 1:25 PM - {flashback to} By bon scott March 7, 2007 1:14 PM Happy Fitzmas! The proper context would be {{{merry}}} Fitzmas, you nimrod. {end flashback}

What, are you trying to put some kind of religious spin on Scooter’s demise? “Happy”? “Merry”? Is this your extenion of Bil O’Lilley’s “War on Christianity?” Makes no difference to an agnostic like me. A thousand posts under YOUR belt, and you still haven�t gotten anything right. Including the English language and your ability to count. Have you passed your “couple of posts in the morning and a couple in the afternoon” limits? Yes, you certainly have. And the afternoon’s still young!

Get to work on that GED. You’d learn how to count and read, which might help you get a job, which would take your time away from this blog, which would make reading it SO much more pleasurable. And stay away from the bottle. Youv’e been a good boy lately, and I’d hate to see you slip. Remember, even one drink can kill hundreds of brain cells!

Believie it or not, I’m praying for you, Andy. Yes, I’m praying! The smart agnostic cover al the bases.

And Happy Fitzmas!

By IN THE NEWS

March 7, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

BUY DANISH FAIR AND BALANCED

LOOK WHO SHE QUOTES

Clifford D. May is President of Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, Chairman of the Committee on the Present Danger’s Policy Committee, Co Director for the Alliance for Research and National Security, a signatory of the Project for the New American Century, and former Republican National Committee’s Director of Communications.

NUFF SAID

By getalife

March 7, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Here are some better question:

What did Bush know and when did he know it?

Did Cheney tell Libby to leak Plame’s identity to reporters?

How involved was Cheney in the cover-up? How involved was Bush?

Why is Karl Rove still working at the White House?

What are the ethical standards for this White House? What is considered acceptable behavior and what is not? What is a firing offense?

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull - March 7, 2007 1:25 PM - {flashback to} By bon scott March 7, 2007 1:14 PM Happy Fitzmas! The proper context would be {{{merry}}} Fitzmas, you nimrod. {end flashback}

What’, are you trying to put some kind of religious spin on Scooter’s demise? “Happy”? “Merry”? Is this your extenion of Bil O’Lilley’s “War on Christianity?” Makes no difference to an agnostic like me. A thousand posts under YOUR belt, and you still haven�t gotten anything right. Including the English language and your ability to count. Have you passed your “couple of posts in the morning and a couple in the afternoon” limits? Yes, you certainly have. And the afternoon’s still young!

Get to work on that GED. You’d learn how to count and read, which might help you get a job, which would take your time away from this blog, which would make reading it SO much more pleasurable. And stay away from the bottle. Youv’e been a good boy lately, and I’d hate to see you slip. Remember, even one drink can kill hundreds of brain cells!

Believie it or not, I’m praying for you, Andy. Yes, I’m praying! The smart agnostic cover al the bases.

And Happy Fitzmas!

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Actually, Muff, no, it doesn’t. First of all Cheney’s war has cost us a lot more than $5 million. Second of all, let me assure you that Cheney has plenty of money, and Haliburton will shower him with plenty more when he leaves office. Am I glad he has donated $ to charity? Sure. Does that mitigate what his administration has done to our country? Not even close?

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Pequod,

I’m “vulgar” now? Really? WTF is too “vulgar” for you? BFD! Spare me the self-righteous outrage.

If you don’t like vulgarity, there is plenty here in spades - really vulgar, disgusting stuff yet you have NEVER complained about it.

You libs will never criticize one of your own, while the fact remains that I have called out so-called conservatives here for their racist and vulgar comments on numerous occasions.

As for “rationalizing” you used Joe Wilson’s lie of an op ed piece in the NYT yesterday to try to substantiate your argument that he was not a liar and the “case was closed”.

You have yet to correct YOUR errors despite the fact that I posted the 2004 WaPo story which detailed Wilson’s lies as the “bi-partisan” Senate Intelligence Committee concluded.

You are acting as a conduit for Wilson’s lies to this day.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

That’s right BuyDanish - it was very common knowledge in Washington that Mrs. Wilson a/k/a Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. You also got it right that her own dear husband outed her because he couldn’t keep his mouth shut (you wives know what I am talking about, and men say women gossip!). Thanks for setting the record straight again!

By David in NYC

March 7, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Hey LuckoDull —

Have you ever considered getting either a job or a brain?

Given that you are always the first poster when I have the time to check the cartoons, you clearly do not have a job.

And given the “intelligence” animating your postings, you clearly do not have a brain.

Contrary to your nonsensical drivel, it is an established fact that Plame was covert. Revealing her identity not only compromised her status, but also that of her cover company, all of her colleagues, and all of her contacts around the world. And, thus, most importantly, it compromised the ability of the CIA to do its job of protecting the USA from foreign enemies.

This is a prima facie case of treason. Libby, Cheney, Rove, Armitage and anyone else who revealed her identity should thank their lucky stars they are not standing in front of a firing squad in the near future.

By RE

March 7, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Richard Lee Armitage Deputy Secretary of State, Term of Appointment: 03/29/2001 to 02/22/2005

Part of the Bush administration

Damn BD, I figure sooner or later you will be right about something, Statistics will catch up with you

By getalife

March 7, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

“Libby, 56, faces a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison and a fine of $1 million. A hearing on a presentencing report is scheduled for June 5.”

Give him the max unless he rolls on cheney.

Set an example, nobody is above the law.

By Magneto

March 7, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Goldie is Midori

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

IN THE NEWS! and Midori the Parrot,

Why don’t you try to refute his argument about David Corn getting his info from Wilson, something which Armitage also told Woodward?

Who DO you consider a reliable source anyway? Fidel Castro? Caesar Chavez? Michael Moore? Sidney Blumenthal?

Try forming an argument for a change instead of just spamming the blog in ALL CAPS and shooting the messenger.

I’m still waiting for Goldilocks to answer 2 simple questions from this morning.

By Wake Up

March 7, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

After reading this post and the posts from the last couple of days, it really shows how hateful and uneducated we as Americans are. I see people on this blog sticking up for the GOP only because they are GOPers themseleves. I see people definding the Democrats because they are Democrats themselves. If you were not aligned with a political party i wonder if you would still feel this way. Political parties are like sports franchises, no matter what facts you bring to the table about that party or team that ardent fan will not believe you because it is their team and NOTHING will change their mind. You can see it displayed in this blog. Libby was convicted yet i see people saying Fitzgerald wasted time, money and energy. If no crime was committed then there would have been no investigation. I dont care about either party all i care about is getting this country on the right track. Which i can see nobody on this blog is willing to do. You are only interested in defending your worthless parties and watching this country going to hell in a hand basket than going out and making this country better.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

By bon scott March 7, 2007 3:00 PM Get to work on that GED. You�d learn how to count and read, which might help you get a job, which would take your time away from this blog.

Oh good, career advice from someone totally dependent upon government and who has to keep moving from town to town because they can’t keep a job.

Did it ever occur to the self appointed guidance counselor that the reason that I can blog is because I am wildly successful and pretty much set my own hours?

Duh?

Even the most obvious things elude you gasbag pinkos, it’s like, check it out, I’m an unemployed failure who blogs against public assistance and less government, yeah, that makes sense.

It might be all that fog you release everytime you open your clueless mouth, finchie, it’s obscuring your vision.

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By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

I am not defending Starr or the Lewinsky mess, Pequod. I am actually condemning it. However, he did gain many convictions which no one has disputed were valid. He did not indict the Clintons because no one would testify against him. I actually heard a prison tape made of a converstation between Webb Hubble and his wife when poor Mr. Hubble stated “I guess I’ll have to roll over one more time”. There just was no Howard Dean in the Clinton Administration. I just want to reiterate that I was not talking about the entire Whitewater affair, just the Lewinsky affair, which was rediculous on its face. Starr abused his authority, in my opinion. In my opinion, Fitzgerald did as well. As did Judge Welch during the early 1990s when he indicted Casper Weinberger.

By Magneto

March 7, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Bi Danish,

Aw,you got busted girl! Armitage was a member of the Bush Admin. Better luck next time dummy!

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the link, Muff. I enjoyed it. Yesterday’s report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched “yellowcake” uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question. Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

“Vermont Votes to Impeach Bush/Cheney:

We the people have the power — and the responsibility — to remove executives who transgress not just the law, but the rule of law.

The oaths that the President and Vice President take binds them to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.” The failure to do so forms a sound basis for articles of impeachment.

The President and Vice President have failed to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution” in the following ways:

They have manipulated intelligence and misled the country to justify an immoral, unjust, and unnecessary preemptive war in Iraq.

They have directed the government to engage in domestic spying without warrants, in direct contravention of U.S. law.

They have conspired to commit the torture of prisoners, in violation of the Federal Torture Act and the Geneva Convention.

They have ordered the indefinite detention without legal counsel, without charges and without the opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention — all in violation of U.S. law and the Bill of Rights.

When strong evidence exists of the most serious crimes, we must use impeachment — or lose the ability of the legislative branch to compel the executive branch to obey the law.

George Bush has led our country to a constitutional crisis, and it is our responsibility to remove him from office."

Add outing a undercover CIA operative.

By Cindy

March 7, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Libby was given up by his superiors. But if they aren’t held accountable for their illegal activities they will make sure he is pardoned. The point being; the left’s cry for blood is satisfied with Libby and by the time he is pardoned, nobody will care. I for one don’t buy in; I know the whole lot is a bunch of criminals.

The extent of unethical and illegal activity by this entire administration is a horrible shame that this great country does not deserve.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

RE,

Does that announcement come from the White House or the State Department?

Every employee of the State Department is not part of the President’s administration. Colin Powell was his Secretary of State who appoints his own deputies.

Using your logic, Valerie Plame was part of the Bush administration because she worked for the CIA and Linda Tripp reported to William Cohen when she worked at the Pentagon.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

David in NYC - Plame was NOT a covered agent under the law. She had not been for a number of years. At any rate, even had she been, her husband was the one who had already outed her because of his constant gossip!

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Excuse me - I meant to say there was not JOHN Dean in the Clinton administration, not Howard.

By Dusty

March 7, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Well, hail hail the gangs all here.

In fact, Goldie has been here every minute of the day and now we have Peculiar Pequod,the 24 hour missing Blackadder, Granny Godzilla,rambo rushncap, mispeak Midori and nauseous NEWS. I tell you the party is booming!! Never have so many misinterpreted so much!!

BUT..thank you, fuddy duddy. Your sensible sound approach is a pleasure. You tell the truth. And to other conservatives and those who value the truth, thank you too.

Goodbye…

See you later.

By Blackadder

March 7, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

I was tempted to call RW’s bluff and allow the AJC to release the records of the posts in question but what’s the point? I don’t think they would do that. It would compromise the anonymous nature of this site and people might stop participating. The AJC wouldn’t even respond to my call to make it impossible for hackerAndy to post his insane comments before and after business hours.

Besides that, the AJC would have to reveal the email address of the posts I submitted along with the posts I did not submit for the sake of comparison. It’s not like my email address contains any reference to Blackadder. Sorry but I don’t need for the wingnuts here to have any way to contact me outside this forum.

That is all I have to say about the subject. I will resume my normal comments and will ignore those from the RW’s peanut gallery. He has proven himself to be nuttier than Andy and I didn’t think that was possible. At least RW’s insanity comes and goes. Andy is a nut case 24/7.

That’s all for me today. You all have a wonderful evening.

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

If you are going to throw around impeachment charges, let us remember what all Clinton and Gore were not indicted for, up to and including illegal fund raising at Buddhist monestaries and other shenanigans with the campaign laws. YOur hypocrisy has made me tired today folks. I’m going to make myself a cup of tea and watch Jeopardy at 4:30. By now.

By IN THE NEWS

March 7, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

EASY QUESTION CUPCAKE

A RELIABLE SOURCE IS ANYBODY BUT YOU>

OR LUCKO WHATS HIS FACE

By Midori

March 7, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

ROFL, Black Adder!!

{{{{At least RW�s insanity comes and goes. Andy is a nut case 24/7.}}}}}

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

OFD — are you telling us that all crimes are the same? That lying about a BJ is the same as lyinig about a war? That (possibly) illegal fundraising is the same thing as political retribution using the office of the President? Should we punish rapists and jaywalkers the same was as well?

By Walt

March 7, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

OFD Sends:

“Starr abused his authority, in my opinion. In my opinion, Fitzgerald did as well. As did Judge Welch during the early 1990s when he indicted Casper Weinberger.”

It wasn’t Judge Walsh that made Weinberger and the other four senior Regan officials convicted felons.

It was a jury.

We might have been saved a lot of trouble and have a lot of fine young people still whole if we had impeached Reagan - as he so richly deserved.

Walt

By john mcenery

March 7, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

There were no leaks, Valerie Plume was not a covert agent at the time. Mr. Libby was found guilty for lying to Fitzgerald, he did not leak any information and Vice President Cheney, did nothing wrong, stop spreading lies.

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

So if no one did anything wrong at all, why did Libby lie to an investigator? People don’t commit offenses which can land them in federal pens out of boredom.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

What’s your point? That Clinton, Berger, Albright, Cohen, Rockefeller, Kerry, Pelosi, Gore and others were wrong about Hussein’s WMDs?

You’re welcome!

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Blackadder,

Not only are you a lying bastard AND a juvenile name jacker you’re completely illiterate on the workings of internet connections. For one thing, whatever you put here as an email address is totally irrelevant to the blog post.

Case in point, the email address I’m using on this comment is blackadder@imalyingbastard.com Try to reach me at it.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

By Blackadder March 7, 2007 3:31 PM At least RW�s insanity comes and goes. Andy is a nut case 24/7.

I would have never read this goofball’s post if Midori hadn’t cut and pasted it, I don’t suffer fools very well.

What gets me is how a whiney little b*** that just turned in some Oscar winning dramatic performance about how it was gone forever, how RW did it so wrong, how it’s panties were all in a wad and then showed back up that afternoon, has the nerve to call me a nut case.

Really, this whackjob can’t even see the looney in his own eyes.

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By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

{{{{He (RW) has proven himself to be nuttier than Andy and I didn�t think that was possible. At least RW�s insanity comes and goes. Andy is a nut case 24/7.}}}}

Snake,

Does that sentence make sense to you?

By RE

March 7, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

During the 2000 U.S. Presidential election campaign, he served as a foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush as part of a group led by Condoleezza Rice that called itself The Vulcans.

BD, admitting you are wrong about something is not a bad thing. to continue trying to prove something after you have already been shown you are wrong makes you look like a dunce.

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

One more thing before I banish myself forever again* lying Blackadder. Why are you crying to the AJC about Andy posting when when you can’t? Add crybaby to the rest of the descriptors that fit you.

I guarantee you right now with 100% certainty that Andy has never posted here without an open comment box, so why the hacker accusations? It is cute that you admit to begging the AJC to silence the people you disagree with though. What a good little brown shirt you are adder!

*Or until my next post (in the finest tradition of Blackadder)

By Americanfirst

March 7, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Watergate

Iran-Contra

Savings and Loan scandal from the 80’s.

Valarie Plame affair.

False intelligence on Iraq

What do these have in common? All the works of the GOP.

Old Fuddy duddy, your name suits you perfectly, because unlike the comment you stated earlier where you tell the truth, i havent seen one thing you have written that is truthful except your name. How can you get a conviction if the person is not guilty. IDIOTS….

By Magneto

March 7, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Bi Danish,

The point is that your republican driven war is uselessly killing americans. Citing Democrats who also fell for Bush’s schemes changes nothing.

By Saddam in the 90's

March 7, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

To say that George Bush Lied about this war is the most mentally retarded thing anyone could say. Was there no evidence that Saddam retained his WMD�s? Did Bush Know for a fact that Saddam gave his WMD�s to the UN inspectors? After 9/11 there was much evidence showing that Saddam had WMD�s, he11 Saddam never accounted for the WMD�s the world knew he had, but you lib pansies say Bush should have ignored the overwhelming evidence Saddam retained WMD�s and focused on the sparse suggestions he did not. You all have been led by two faced democrats who said Saddam was an imminent threat and had WMD�s, but now act like they forgot about the nineties. Don�t give me this hogwash that they were all lied to by Bush. Many Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee saw the same evidence and reached the same conclusion. Also take into account that congress can call anyone to testify and chose not to because at the time their political amnesia had not blocked out the nineties.

As to the cartoon, the republicans need to learn how to say its all a vast left wing conspiracy and provide no counter points. It works for the democrats and there truth seeking constituency.

By RE

March 7, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

ok BD, I have to go for the day, but I just want you to remember it is ok to admit when you are wrong.

Have a nice day and remember to take your meds.

By Midori

March 7, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Listening/watching Washington Journal from this morning — now I see where Buy Danish got the ridiculous and equally vapid idea that the Libby trial was all about Fitzgerald “getting back” at Libby for Clinton pardoning Marc Rich.

This makes about as much sense as trying to hold a rational, civilized conversation with Buy Danish.

Stupid is as stupid does.

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

The knuckleheads are bawling on this one! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAH, the media is at fault. BLUBBERRRRRRRRRRRR, the jury was biased. BOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO, the liberals, Bawl, WHINE, Howl. You gotta luv it! My personal favorite is Fox News “Legal” analysis. “The jury was confused because they asked a question about reasonable doubt”. This is, of course deceit by Faux News. There were eleven jurors. Perhaps one had a question. That a question was asked does not mean ALL had the question. This is what I’m trying to say about you fvckers. You lie. You are deceitful. You need the lie. You embrace the lie. The jury deliberated ten full days! Faux News lies. The greratest single threat to our nation is the willingness of the government to lie and your eager breathless willingness to soak it up. It’s real simple. Repeat after me: “Libby was convicted because he was guilty.” There now. That wasn’t that hard, was it?

By Americanfirst

March 7, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Saddam in the 90’s,

Lets recap, 13 of the hijackers were of Saudi Arabian descent, Bin Laden is Saudi, his number 2 is Saudi. Yet none of the hijackers were Iraqi, so what is your justification for going into Iraq? Also you GOP nutjobs answer this question, If this were Clinton and Gore instead of Bush and Cheney would you still agree that they were justified for war with Iraq?

By Andy"s Mom

March 7, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Now, now Andy. I think it’s a given here that everyone knows you are “special”

On a lighter note we’re having your favorite for dinner tonight Andy! Spaghetti-O’s with sliced hot dogs!

Dealing with the extra messy diapers that meal produces is worth the smile it puts on your face. (Oh dear) I rarely see my Andy smile. It’s such a joy.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.

This is cheney’s legacy.

Did Blackadder contact the FBI?

By @@

March 7, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Haven’t had time to catch up on all comments, but it looks like everyone remained on topic.

THAT has got to be a first.

Anyhoo, the Libby trial is over. Fitzgerald himself said so. I know how disappointed the liberals must be. I’m guessing he’s gonna take his win, and doesn’t want to make a bigger fool of himself. Lawyers are like that.

But the liberals don’t mind. They do it all day, everyday.

I know this is an inopportune time to take such glee in covert actions, but this could turn out to be very good news.

Did the United States just nab a top Iranian defector?

IRAN ‘DEFECTOR’ TOP NUKE GEN. FLEES TO U.S.: REPORT

It also looks like we may have Russia on the ropes with our BMD system. It’s all the rage in Europe while Putin whines.

Speaking of whining…did you really call the AJC Blackadder?

That’s too funny. I would never have thought to do that when “George”, a liberal hacked into the site. It just wasn’t that important.

I need a tissue. Blackadder has, like, MAJOR problems he must overcome.

I want to empathize, really I do.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

{{{Citing Democrats who also fell for Bush�s schemes changes nothing.}}}

Magnento,

Wow! You are even dumber and wearing a larger tinfoil hat than the rest of the parrots!

How can Bush be responsible for what Clinton, Albright and did before Bush took office?

RE (the Original Dunce),

I see. /SARC.

Your proof is that because Armitage was a campaign advisor that makes him part of his administration?

Because I give money to Bush I’m in his administration too? Cool!

One more time - every employee in the State Department is not a member of the President’s administration.

Why don’t YOU admit that YOU are wrong?

btw, You do realize that both Sandy Burglar Berger and Lying Joe Wilson worked for Kerry’s campaign as advisors and both were let go when the truth about their activities came out? His “administration” would have been off to a very rocky start!

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

@@ It’s America’s victory. It is a victory for democracy. Do you agree?

By Walt

March 7, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Saddam allows:

“Was there no evidence that Saddam retained his WMD�s?”

None.

Walt

By Paul

March 7, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

RE 2:36

I had a feeling you’d be one to pick up on that - :)

Actually, from what I’ve gathered, the intercept program was legal, the Administration didn’t comply with the requirements to notify the FISA court timely. I know, you’ve made the point that renders the program illegal - I hold the view the program was legal, the Administration didn’t comply with the legal requirements.

But to your question - That’s the chestnut. It’s more difficult now than it was, and I’d hazard a guess that the “system” wouldn’t deal kindly with one who did.

So let’s go onto a classified program, or information, or a person/team operating undercover or in the black world. My tongue in cheek comment was, if classified is revealed, will the same people zeaously advocate tracking down and punishing the leakers? Or will their zeal be tempered by whether or not they agree with what the program was about? Or under which administration the program occurred? I believe you can take a fair guess and which it would be.

Classified (illegal programs, rare in the greater context) is classified. If revealing (legal program) classified information is a crime, will the leakers (as well as those who transmit or publish the information) be sought out as we’ve just seen with the Libby case? I think not.

People are real big on enforcing laws - as long as it’s the laws with which they agree. They’re perfectly content to ignore or violate other laws.

By IN THE NEWS

March 7, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

I DONT CARE WHAT YALL SAY THIS IS FUNNY

Domenici hires Duke Cunningham�s lawyer. Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) has �hired a top defense attorney to handle the pending ethics investigation into allegations that he pressured a federal prosecutor to bring indictments against New Mexico Democrats on the eve of the 2006 elections.� His choice: �Lee Blalack, who recently represented former congressman Randy �Duke� Cunningham (R-CA), who is now serving time in prison for bribery and other offenses,� and who was prosecuted by purged U.S. Attorney Carol Lam.

By @@

March 7, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Daniel:

Did you know that it’s usually the jury foreman who makes a request to the Judge for definition on behalf of the entire jury…..

…..and did you know that the “question of reasonable doubt” has been a topic of debate by the Supreme Court for 150 years?

I DID NOT know that.

Until now.

By Neo Handling Instructions

March 7, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

An entire day of neos rationalizing how someone convicted of a felony by a jury of their peers is not a criminal because………..

Who woulda ever thunk!- LMAO

At least they are doing a public service by keeping themselves entertained with something other than politics.

Just keep your fingers and toes away from their mouths, don’t touch their crack pipes, get a rabies vaccination before handling one and you should be ok. Step back if they heist their legs though, they tend to pi$$ on anything that doesn’t have a ‘W’ sticker on it.

If you choose to breed your neo, remember that neos only copulate with young children and drug addicts. Raising neos can be a very profitable enterprise, though, Enron is paying $43 million for each one of theirs!

By shadrivers

March 7, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

Short History of Plamegate

CIA requests a criminal investigation of the outing of an undercover agent. Prosecuter’s grand jury hears contradictory testimony about who leaked. Evaluation of evidence shows path to leaker(s) fogged by obstruction and perjury so that the original investigation’s purpose can’t go forward. The underlying crime can’t be adjudicated because of the crimes committed obfuscating the underlying crime. So Prosecutor builds a rock solid OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE and PERJURY case that 11 jurors after careful deliberation concur in 4 out 5 charges. Not that hard to understand, is it?

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

PARROT!

I don’t watch Washington Journal on C-SPAN. I stopped watching years ago when they made that ridiculous rule that every other caller had to be from a different party.

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Paul: “They’re perfectly content to ignore or violate other laws”. Who are you describing? We are a nation of laws. No one is above the law. 21 members of the last Congress are either under indictment or in jail. You’ve been around the republicans way too long.

By @@

March 7, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Daniel:

Absolutely I agree. Nabbing (or welcoming) that nuclear scientist from Iran was, indeed, a victory for the U.S.

If you’re talking about the Libby trial…..well, that was just a waste of taxpayer’s money.

Watching Harry Reid immediately call for Bush NOT to pardon Libby when he wasn’t around to protest the pardon of Marc Rich doesn’t impress me much.

Did you know that Marc Rich was implicated in Saddam’s Oil for Food program.

I thought I posted something about that this morning, but quite a few of my posts suspisciously go missing.

Hmmmmmmmm, maybe the AJC doesn’t like me. I should start calling to complain like Blackadder. Whadya think?

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

By Daniella March 7, 2007 4:26 PM The knuckleheads are bawling on this one! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAH, the media is at fault. BLUBBERRRRRRRRRRRR, the jury was biased. BOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO, the liberals, Bawl, WHINE, Howl. It�s real simple. Repeat after me: �Libby was convicted because he was guilty.�

Does anyone else see the stone cold irony of Queen Shrieker Of Pinkosylvania whining about other people whining?

{{{{{By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 9:52 AM

You libs go ahead and get your jollies tormenting Libby for being stupid.

Have fun.

And keep overlooking where the lies originated from.

Hacks.}}}}}

Libby could have pulled a Clinton and just said “I don’t recall.”

For what ever reason, MOST LIKELY BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS INNOCENT AND HAD NOTHING TO FEAR, he answered the questions to the best of his knowledge.

Stupid mistake.

The pinkos took full as-s advantage of second hand recollections and 16 month old memories and stuck it up Scooter’s a-ss.

Good for you.

If this really was a conspiracy theory like what you moonbats stirred up from the bottom of the fever swamp, why did Scooter answer the questions? You don’t think that he would have rehearsed this over and over again with Darth Cheney and they would have got the obstruction to the point that it would have made Hillary blush?

Hell, there never was a crime to begin with and Armitage was the leaker, everybody knew that BEFORE Fitzgerald was even appointed.

Scooter got screwed, he needs to get pardoned.

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By Pequod

March 7, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

BuyDanish,

It does not matter what insults others post here and not even read by me. (In logic, a subject I teach, it is called the guilt by association fallacy, a version of the ad hominem fallacy.)As far as I am concerned, I insulted no one, including you, so you had no justification in engaging in such language. However, I sense that you would be a bit lost without it.

Unlike you and some of the others I won’t bother mentioning I associate with people who behave respectfully to others as a matter of normal, decent, civilized behavior. Your language and its deliberate defense by some of your cohorts says a great deal more about your and their lack of character than anything else. I have nothing further to say to you nor will I read or respond to anything you post.

By Curious

March 7, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me how Nixon got impeached for wiretapping Democrat HQ, but Bush wiretaps the whole country and gets?????? Or was it the lies or the coverup?

If Nixon’s deeds were impeachable, then Bush should have been impeached three times over.

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

.By LuckoDull - March 7, 2007 3:21 PM - {fllashback} By bon scott March 7, 2007 3:00 PM Get to work on that GED. You�d learn how to count and read, which might help you get a job, which would take your time away from this blog.

Well, your language skills suck, and it’s clear you can’t count (how many posts have you made today? More than 4, that’s for sure. And you’ve probably have had twice as many drinks). So I repeat my heartfelt advice. Get remedial courses, which certainly would be a sensible and viable option for you. It might even help correct your neocon delusions as well as give you skills needed to enter the workforce, and the willpower to limi your binges. Well, one can hope.

[Oh good, career advice from someone totally dependent upon government and who has to keep moving from town to town because they can�t keep a job.

Oh good, career advice from someone totally dependent upon government and who has to keep moving from town to town because they can�t keep a job.

Actually I’ve been doing basically the same consulting job since 1974, including 16 years with the same employer. I hadn’t noticed too many streetpeople on my business flights around, and sometimes outside the country. And VERY few with laptops. You live in a strange world, very much unlike the one I occupy.

I know. In your world, you are supported by your parents, or your parent’s estate, or the paychecks brought home my your intiminated daughters and perversely subservient wife. Just so you can constantly blog here from 7:45am to 8:15pm as you get drunker and drunker.

Bet I’m pretty close! God, you’re pitiful.

By Saddam in the 90's

March 7, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

American first, did you want to address anything in my post?

Saudi Arabia kicked most of the hijackers out prior to 9/11. Are you saying we should’ve attacked them anyway? What are you saying? Odd how the democrats didn’t say what they were saying either. they just criticized, acted like they never said the things they said and worked to break the country’s resolve by telling people like you what to think and say.

Perhaps you would like to address the things in my first post. I doubt it?

By Old Fuddy Duddy

March 7, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Daniel - that is just plain hypocrisy. You liberals were the one who complained that Clinton’s perjury did not matter because it was about sex and that he could pejure himself because the law was just stupid in that case. Not one Republican I know thinks that he or she should be above the law. The Republicans stripped Bob Ney of his chairmanship and forced him to resign his nomination as soon as they knew he had lied to them and he was guilty in the Abramoff scandal. “Cold Cash” Jefferson is still in Congress and Pelosi wants to give him a seat on the Homeland Security Committee. You folks take the cake!

By Pequod

March 7, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the comment Midori, you’ve offered some good posts.

It seems that from Dick Cheney, Limbaugh. O’Reilly to the conservative blogger and man in the street, the personal attack has become their modus operandi.

But doesn’t this blog remind you of the old Monty Python “argument” skit where he goes into a room to have a rational argument and it turns out to be the abuse room instead.

Can you imagine how shrill they will become when the democrats have both Congress and the White House in 2008 after Bush’s failed Iraqi policy?

By Paul

March 7, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Daniel 4:51

In theory, yes. In the greater practice, for many major issues, yes. For lesser issues, or when it isn’t convenient, no.

It’s coming up on tax time. Care to hazard a guess as to how many on this forum will inflate their charitable deductions? Or not report all earned income? Or fudge the business miles for their vehicle?

Lots of people are all for enforcing laws against “homosexual conduct” but aren’t real keen on having laws enforced for the same conduct (I believe Georgia has a few) when the behavior occurs between heterosexuals.

A nation of lawful citizens? Get on I20/75/285, get in the right lane and peg your cruise control at the limit and watch your fellow citizens uphold their nation of laws.

Pls don’t go off about “the speed limit is not the same as endangering someone’s life!!!!” or other such histrionics. I just said people who cry loud and long to “obey the law” (for their political opponents) aren’t always such paragons of virtue.

BTW - nice to know Dems are never indicted. Or in jail. It’s never, ever happened. Maybe Rep “I had 90k in my freezer? Really?” will change that pristine record.

By Not a numbnuts Republican

March 7, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby Jr., former chief of staff to “Deadeye” Dick Cheney, has become the highest-ranking member of a Republican administration to be convicted of a felony since John Poindexter took the fall during the Doofus Reagan Iran-Contra scandal. (Poindexter’s buddy Ollie (War Stories) North was also into it up to his neck, but managed to 5th his way out.)

After the verdict came down, Denis Collins, the former Washington Post reporter on the jury, said the deliberating jurors often wondered about the role of the White House in general and Dick Cheney and Karl Rove in particular. Collins said that “a number of times” the jury asked themselves, “What is he doing here? Where is Rove and all these other guys? …”

Good question. What about Mr. Bush? And what about a grown-up with “Scooter” for a nickname?

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

@@,

My posts have been disappearing too, as have Andys.

I posted this earlier -

{{{AJC Mangagement:

Is one of the moonbat parrots working for you as a comment gatekeeper? For the last 2 days many of my comments have not made it on the blog.}}}

Funny, but I haven’t heard any of the parrots make a similar complaint.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

Yes, all the wingnut spin and excuses will not make it in the history books written on the hate, convicted felon party. Their legacy will be the worst in US history.

The future generations will read their crap and ask WTF happened.

Lets hope the blogs are still around for them to read the wingnut comments.

By Paul

March 7, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Not a numbnuts

Good questions. Think Fitzgerald’ll ever answer them?

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

@@: Yes, I know that. What if one juror had one question? Wouldn’t it be fair for the foreman to enquire on behalf of the one? In Ameica jurors must convict by a unanimous verdict. All eleven jurors found Libby guilty. One could have set him free. They had no reasonable doubt. I trust Americans.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Is this dude for real?:

By bon scott March 7, 2007 5:05 PM Well, your language skills suck,

1) {fllashback} (you forgot the ending “flashback” too, genius)

2) willpower to limi your binges.

3) [Oh good, career advice from someone totally dependent upon government and who has to keep moving from town to town because they can�t keep a job.

Oh good, career advice from someone totally dependent upon government and who has to keep moving from town to town because they can�t keep a job.

4) I hadn�t noticed too many streetpeople on my business flights around, and sometimes outside the country. And VERY few with laptops.

5) In your world, you are supported by your parents, or your parent�s estate, or the paychecks

6) your intiminated daughters

I got an idea finchie, I know it won’t be long until you totally lose it, it never is, so why don’t you GFY now?

Spare us the drama, Queen.

Nobody even wants your psychotic bullsh-it.

In fact I’m willing to let the blog vote on this. Do you people want to see finch’s head explode again or do you want me to leave?

I will honor the results.

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By Midori

March 7, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

Pequod,

If Buy Danish becomes any shriller, she will have to rent herself out this St. Patrick’s Day as a Banshee.

She loves to call others “parrot”, when all she does is parrot the latest right wing lunacy.

Over and over and over again.

And it doesn’t take long to see from where their lunatic talking points first emerged.

She has become a parody of herself.

I imagine her in a padded cell, lonely and lost to the world, bundled in a strait jacket squawking in awe to her heart’s content.

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

OFD: “You liberals were the one (sic) who complained…” Who are you talking to? I’m no Clinton fan. A crook is a crook. What is your porblem? Libby is a felon. He lied to the FBI! That is against the law. Bye, Scooter.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

BD,

How would know Andy’s posts have disappeared?

You just outed yourself.

OMG, call the FBI!

Geez.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

{{{By Pequod

March 7, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the comment Midori, you�ve offered some good posts.}}}

Pequod,

Oh the irony! Midori the squawking Parrot is the single most vulgar person on this blog - and that’s saying a lot.

Here’s a sample:

{{{By Midori

February 16, 2007 03:57 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I think you�ve been sniffing too many used Kotex.}}}

She’s all yours Pequod!

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull,

Regarding finchie - Have you seen his/her emails to RW as “Sara Finch”, and other incoherent, completely insane posts? His new blog name is “Meinfarmer”. We can’t figure out if that means his wife is a farmer or he (“Me”) is an “INF armer”.

Scroll through here for a sampling.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Check out this little wingnut

Geez.

By @@

March 7, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

LuckoDull:

I didn’t see your comment until after closing last night:

(((@@: Speaking of liberal �logic,� consider how far we�ve come under their influence in the last couple of decades.)))

(((20 years ago, how many men did you know that would have come to the aid of another guy, especially another guy that is perfectly coiffed and blow dried, rescuing him from a dressing down by a woman?)))

It brought to mind something I had posted at Wooten’s yesterday:

�Once a male bird with an elaborate courtship ritual gets started, he loses himself in his own performance, evidently. Take the female away and he doesn�t even notice her absence until he�s finished the whole show.�

There’s no way I’M looking at John Edwards, but….

I did try to find him in this group.

I’m pretty sure they were all Democrats. They seem to move in unison.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Getapair,

Hang on because this is really shocking!

Because Andy SAID they were???????? He mentioned that his posts were being censored.

SHEESH!

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Getalife was right about one thing - at least in this California town, Easter has been cancelled.

Spring Egg Hunts planned April 7 Children can participate in Walnut Creek�s annual Spring Egg Hunts on Saturday, April 7 at Heather Farm Park or Larkey Park. The activity begins promptly at 10:15 a.m. at both parks for preschoolers through 5th graders; Heather Farm is accessible for disabled children. A pancake-and-sausage Bunny Breakfast will also be offered before the egg hunt at Heather Farm Community Center from 8 to 9:45 a.m.; cost is $5 per person.

Hat tip: John Gibson

By Dubya

March 7, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Why are you Repubscum not talking about Iraq? The SURGE and the SWEEP are working beautifully, just as we knew they would. How many of our “heroes” were slaughtered yesterday? 11 I believe. More than 100 Iraqi “pilgrims” in 1 day. More than 100 more wounded. All the result of our version of Deemocracy n FrEEdom for them. For centuries they’ll bless the day we came to save their village by destroying their village. Onward Christian Soldiers! Bless Shrub n Murcuh.

By getalife

March 7, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

BD,

Its a vast liberal conspiracy to not post your garbage.

Thanks AJC.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

{{But doesn�t this blog remind you of the old Monty Python �argument� skit where he goes into a room to have a rational argument and it turns out to be the abuse room instead.}}

Good one, Pequod— LMAO!

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull March 5, 2007 1:34 PM Prop: I would love to give you the link but the Urinal is censoring posts again. I�ve tried 3 times already.

gitmo, er, Markus: We all know you are trying to deflect the namejacker label off of yourself but, too bad, you will always be known as Macacawitz.

Danish: I thought if I stayed away from RW’s blog so would the weirdos but, apparently, that’s not the case.

Finch is an equal opportunity psycho stalker.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By Bob

March 7, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

No, BD. Without question you are by far the crudest thing on this blog. A filthy slob, dirt and insect encrusted. Nothing but potty talk. An inability to hook together 2 simple sentences. Knowledgeable on no substantive topic. Improperly using your Granny’s old dictionary. Just a basic, stupid hayshaker who should be embarrassed to open his mouth in public. But then inadequates like you have no shame anywhere, anytime. Just another good look into the rightwing mind and why the country dives downhill. Pitiful creature.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Good job, all of you rightwing propagandists — all the disinformation and dissembling you do each day on the TV and the blogs is commendable. You do your party proud! It’s all about “controlling the message” even if the message is wrong!

Now click those heels together and say “Sieg Heil!”

By Dan

March 7, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

The truest (and most coherent, unfortunately) of John Kerry’s 2004 campaign was the open-mike faux pas: “These guys are a bunch of crooks.” We were lied into war against a country that had been relatively stable, albeit under a dictator (put in place and encouraged, it must be said by the US itself). When I look at this sordid story, I clearly (clearly!) see high crimes and misdemeanors. Clinton admittedly got (and lied about) a blow job. Bush & company lied the US into a costly, deadly war that destabilized the Middle East, ignored the real culprit, and reversed the polarity of foreign sentiment toward the US. This administration is a tragedy. Bush has given the office of POTUS a new title: “Perpetrator in Chief.”

By getalife

March 7, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Andy er RW er BD er macaca er etc….,

No, I am “getalife” here and wingnut wooten’s.

You play those silly games not me.

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Hit too close to home, Andy? Well I wouldn’t be proud of myself either if I sat around the house all day, swilling bad vodka by the liter, writing incoherent posts which (among other things) reveal my lack of basic math skills and my addiction to far rightwing blogs while my poor wife and daughters work their fingers to the bones supporting my “causes”.

For the record, except when I washed dishes in high school, I have never held a government position in my life.

But Pastry, you ignorant shill. First I’m Sara on RW’s blog… now I’m “Meinfarmer”??. Just between you and me, I don’t go there. I can’t stand the smell of neocon hypocrisy and patently obvious political crap on that poor excuse for a blog.. Although I do find it flattering that your right wing comrades go to so much trouble to try and ‘scare’ ME! I hadn’t realized I was so important!I

You see, I dont mind you using your time to perpetrate lies. It keeps you from doing more dangerious stuff. Like campaigning for an all-out war against Iran.

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Scooter, by the by, is the guy who negotiated the Mark Rich pardon with the Clinton White House. He is a quintessential Washington insider. The attempt to play him as a hapless oaf with a bad memory was quite a stretch. He was also a PNAC original. Guilty, Guilty, Guilty Guilty.

By Corky Cobb

March 7, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Easter has been cancelled?????

Oh My God. Jesus is going to be so upset that the Easter Bunny won’t be delivering eggs in his name this year. Jesus thinks it’s an abomination there won’t be chocolate bunnies. No baskets?????

Of course Jesus will still be cheering on the shock and awe in Iraq!! Right?

No Easter Bunny???? What in Gods name is going on????

Happy Easter!!! Happy War!!!

Would Jesus color eggs to celebrate his death? WWJD? Pet the Easter Bunny?

Merry Christmas and Happy killing!

Make Jesus happy…….Boil eggs and

ENLIST

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

More Bush-blaming [Mark Steyn] I have no idea whether Scooter Libby is a �good man� or a partisan hack, but I certainly hope he has a Bush pardon in his pocket or in his shoes I�d be making a break for the border. I never feel more foreign than when observing contemporary American justice, which seems to the outsider to have absolutely no sense of proportion. Mr Libby has been convicted of lying about his recollection of a conversation. The lies about who leaked Mrs Wilson�s name, the lies about what her husband was told in Niger and what he reported back to the CIA and how he got the job in the first place, all these are still out there. And in particular the leaker Armitage � who remained silent as the drip-drip-drip of speculation corroded the Administration�s integrity month in month out � remains a beloved figure on the social scene, full of delightful asides and amusing gossip. Only the peripheral lie about the minor lie arising from major lies is to be punished.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

Those of you whining about your “missing” posts may need to re-read the “Rules for commenting” section of the blog — especially where it says {“It�s OK to be funny, but it�s not OK to be offensive.”}… which makes it really surprising that some of your posts make it on the blog at all.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Getalife,

I’ll tell you what, why don’t you tell us what was “garbage” and why?

Pequod,

Here’s another friend for you!

{{{By Bob

March 7, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

No, BD. Without question you are by far the crudest thing on this blog. A filthy slob, dirt and insect encrusted. Nothing but potty talk. An inability to hook together 2 simple sentences. Knowledgeable on no substantive topic. Improperly using your Granny�s old dictionary. Just a basic, stupid hayshaker who should be embarrassed to open his mouth in public. But then inadequates like you have no shame anywhere, anytime. Just another good look into the rightwing mind and why the country dives downhill. Pitiful creature.}}}

Enjoy the friendship!

btw, if you’d like to hear more vulgarities from Midori, do let me know and I’ll be happy to oblige.

Andy,

The Watcher made this intriguing post earlier after I noted my disappearing posts for the AJC Management. (The second paragraph is quoting me - I guess The Watcher doesn’t know how to use quotation marks):

{{{By The Watcher

March 7, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

This should earn the muffin some important friends�.

Is one of the moonbat parrots working for you as a comment gatekeeper? For the last 2 days many of my comments have not made it on the blog.

It kind of like telling the waitress how rotten she is before you get your food. Real bright.

Got Spit?}}}

Pequod

That post is for you too^^^^. What a nice bunch of friends you are acquiring!

By Americanfirst

March 7, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Saddam,

What is their to address? We have been in Iraq for 4 years now and i have not see any WMD’s and the inspectors did not find them either. So what was the point of invading Iraq? Everyone execpt Bush and you GOP lovers know he had NOTHING to do with 9/11. In the 60’s a dictator 90 miles off our coast tried to get nukes from Russia, we didnt invade him. Put the Kool aid downa and think like a normal person. Your facts were baseless.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks,

How do you make it through the day without a seeing eye dog?

I’m fully aware of the AJCs visitor rules. They are a joke, and if I were an advertiser I’d have a lawsuit pending against the AJC for associating my product with he filth that passes through here.

I don’t doubt that you find each and every one of my comments “offensive. The truth is offensive to moonbats.

One of the deleted posts was a straightforward recap of Cheney’s charitable contributions, compared to Kerry and Gore. I can’t remember what the others were, but they were not in the least bit objectionable except that their content smacked down a liberal.

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

What I’m saying, Muff, is that Clinton etc. would have checked the intelligence 100 times over and try everything else before invading. Which Bush didn’t bother to do at all. Let me give you an analogy: there is a guy in school whom everyone hates. You, not liking this guy (let’s call him, for the sake of this story, oh, I dunno…. Andy) say something like “Man, I really hate this guy, wish he’d drop dead.” I, on the other hand, go home, get a gun, come back to school and shoot him in the face.

What you’re trying to say is that the 2 situations are equivalent. To put it simply - they’re not. And you trying to equate them makes you look foolish, as usual.

By @@

March 7, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Goldie:

If Midori’s filth clears the AJC’s rules, then the conservatives most certainly should.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Those of you whiners who still want to claim that Mrs. Wilson’s CIA status was not “covert” need to read the link that w00t posted earlier this morning around 11:30 — you may learn what some of the other CIA officers have to say about Mrs. Wilson’s status.

Oh, but what am I thinking — you don’t really want to learn the truth, do you? That would just make your constant lies null and void. Oooh— Sorry, my bad!

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

OMG!!!!!

Sybil Bon Scott,

Well dear, if it isn’t you then you really should look out for what your wife Sara J.G. finch “Sarfnch” is doing in your absence.

She’s loonier than you are.

By neocontrary

March 7, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Revealing the identity of an undercover CIA agent is treason. The punishment for treason is…..?

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Boobs, I’m just saying… there may be a reason some posts are not making it to the blog. I dunno— Just offering suggestions. Could be a problem with the website server or volume of traffic…

Excuse’ moi!

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Speaking of filth and vulgarity, where’s Blowhard been?

If I might impose on the blog, the AJC has been insisting on throwing me a free newspaper and they keep throwing it in the bushes. Would someone ask Blackadder to call them for me tomorrow please? Tell him it’s OK if he wants to whine about me or Andy while he’s on the phone with them as long as he can get them to put the paper directly into my recycling bin where it belongs. Well, unless Midori needs it for the cage.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Corky Cobb— don’t tell me that now “Loofah Sponge” O’Reilly is claiming a war on Easter??? I guess that makes sense though — it certainly gives the foil-hat wearers something to blog about during the day.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Excuse me but I need some help with something. I have a little background in psychology but this one is new to me. Does anyone know what they call the mental sickness where you project your faults like drinking, being unemployed and bad grammar on others and then scold that person for your problems, like your are some out of body experience freak?

I believe it might be a variation of obsessive compulsiveness.

Apparently it isn’t treatable either.

Let me know if you have any idea, thanks.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Posts might not be making it because Goldie has posted about every eight seconds since the blog opened to the general public this morning. I’m proud of you Goldie! It’s hard to post that much mindless drivel without ever taking a break. If this keeps up I’m sending you a case of Chardonnay to slow you down though.

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

The vote on todays cartoon is a whopping 92.5%! And that includes Andy’s ten votes against!

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Neocontrary— the way it works here is you just keep repeating over and over that Plame was not “undercover” or “covert”, and then, you know, like, someone may actually believe that and keep repeating that to everyone they know— and like, you know???

It’s commonly called the “echo machine” or Fox News…

By Corky Cobb

March 7, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Goldie, it was Buy Danish @ 5:53 claiming the war on Easter. I’m sure she saw it on O’Really and just had to act.

Merry Christmas, and don’t forget to buy your chocolate loofah at O’Reilly.com to show your support for Easter.

By neocontrary

March 7, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

The administration will relocate to a resort on the south coast of Cuba while the oval office is fumigated to eliminate stains on democracy.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Goldie the Dullard,

One more time:

Joe Wilson outed his own wife as a CIA agent. Please direct your outrage at him.

As for the War on Easter, it’s not a claim, it’s a fact - at least in Walnut Grove, CA and it was me who posted it courtesy of a tip from John Gibson, not O’Reilly. It’s pretty sad that you are drawn to the inane “Corky Cobb’s” juvenile commentary.

rushncap,

I’m going to be really nice and assume that you are in a huge rush to improve your productivity and therefore did not have time to form a coherent argument at 6:29.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

Another juror’s viewpoint:

Redington said �it was very difficult � it was hard� to vote to convict Libby, who was found guilty of four of five felony counts accusing him of lying to a federal grand jury and the FBI. Prosecutors said he hoped to derail a special prosecutor�s investigation of the leak of the identity of Valerie Plame, a covert CIA operative.— �He seemed like a ton of fun. … I didn�t want to see him and his wife and say he was guilty of a crime,� Redington told MSNBC�s Chris Matthews. But she she said she had no choice given the evidence.— �I think he got caught in a difficult situation where he got caught in the initial lie, and it just snowballed,� she said.

As she herself says, she “had no choice”, given the evidence at trial!

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks and your friend Curly,

Here is my original post. It clearly says JOHN GIBSON and not O’Reilly.

But hey, keep the conspiracy theories coming.

By Saddam in the 90's

March 7, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

americanfirst, ever heard of the Bay of Pigs? There most certainly were WMD’s found in Iraq, not stockpiles, but WMD’s nonetheless. 15 viles in a scientist’s home freezer? David Kay also said there was evidence of materials being moved to Syria while we were at the UN.

The Iraq Survey Group found a network of laboratories and safehouses controlled by Iraqi intelligence and security services that contained equipment for chemical and biological research and a prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing for Biological Weapon agents, that were not declared to the UN. It also appears that Iraq had the infrastructure and talent to resume production.

Would you like to define lie and eplain how Bush is guilty of it in regards to Iraq’s WMD’s? Perhaps the third try is a charm.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

CorkyCobb— oh, that explains it. I always just scroll on thru the Donut’s rants and screams.

By Goldie

March 7, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

It’s been real, y’all — I’m off to a Chardonnay-tasting party now!

By Daniel

March 7, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

Goldie has nailed you creeps. That’s what gets under your skin. Let’s face it: Most of America doesn’t believe your lies. It’s over. You guys are through. Bush lied about Iraq and you can’t stand it. When a talented thoughtful American jury slams Libby you start bawling and whining: “It’s the pinko-libs, the commies, the media, the socialists, democrats, the liberals”. You’re mad at democracy and unamerican. The truth is hard for you. You so desperately want and need to believe the lie. What is wrong with you?

By bon scott

March 7, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

By LuckoDull - March 7, 2007 6:47 PM Excuse me but I need some help with something. I have a little background in psychology but this one is new to me. Does anyone know what they call the mental sickness where you project your faults like drinking, being unemployed and bad grammar on others and then scold that person for your problems, like your are some out of body experience freak?

Like I said Andy-poo… your symptoms are obvious (just 2 posts in the morning and 2 at night! Right!) HoresPlop! your prescient self-diagnosis is especially brilliant for you and if I were you I’d seek help. Like soon. Like yesterday.

By Midori

March 7, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

Since Buy Danish likes to call names, what say we give her one?

I kinda like “Hagitha”.

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this

Symptoms?:

By pedophile bon scott freak September 29, 2006 06:58 PM Short eyes likes his boy toys!! Is that why you get juiced? Yummmmm� just watch their little legs!!By the way, what kind of lubricant do you and your boy-toys prefer? Do you use xanax or roofies to loosen them up, or does vodka alone do the trick?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

By neocontrary

March 7, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

The bedrock products allowing consumers to “Buy Danish” are pastry and prostitution. To write “it was me” is evidence of ignorance or Republic Party membership or both.

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Muff, I’m going to be real nice, and not call you a fat cow whose only use is as a baby-maker. I guess we’re chums now, huh?

By LuckoDull

March 7, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Democrat, engaged in a complicated land swindle, buying a parcel of land for $400,000 and selling it for over $1 million a few years later. (At least it wasn’t cattle futures!) Reid also received more than four times as much money from Jack Abramoff (nearly $70,000) as Tom DeLay ($15,000). DeLay returned the money; Reid refuses to do so. Why should he? He’s a Democrat. Former Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger literally received a sentence of community service for stuffing classified national security documents in his pants and then destroying them — big, fat federal felonies. But Scooter Libby is facing real prison time for forgetting who told him about some bozo’s wife.

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

Buy Danish,

I would think rushncap only qualifies as “chum” in the world of shark fisherman.

neocontrary,

Why do you suppose nobody is hanging from a rope for this overt act of treason that a simple blogger such as yourself can see, but the prosecutor that you have been building statues of can’t. And boy do I mean it when I say “simple” in your case.

By Buy Danish

March 7, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

Neocontary,

GFY!

Idiots who live in Democrat houses with poor capitalization skills who mix their metaphors shouldn’t throw stones:

{{{By neocontrary

March 7, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

The administration will relocate to a resort on the south coast (sic sic) of Cuba while the oval office (sic Sic) is fumigated to eliminate stains on democracy.}}}

Fumigate any stains lately?

raging rushncap,

Has anyone ever told you that you have an anger control problem?

By @@

March 7, 2007 8:11 PM | Link to this

Well I guess Clinton’s intelligence put him in search of a “huge blast of aspirin”.

Gave Bin Laden a damn headache he still hasn’t gotten over.

By rushncap

March 7, 2007 8:23 PM | Link to this

Muff, has anyone ever told you that you’re not a psychiatrist so you should stop pretending to be one?

Stalk - that was mildly amusing. So far that’s your high point on this board.

By RW-(the original)

March 7, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this

rushncap,

If you were in any way capable of determining my high point on this board I might weigh your opinion. You aren’t so I won’t.

Dang! I just noticed I was still using the email address blackadder@imalyingbastard.com. If the AJC staff wants to scold me I’ve gone back to a real address.

By Buy Danish

March 8, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

raging rushncap,

Do you think that shrinks are consulted when people who break politically-correct rules are sent into rehab or re-education camps for “sensitivity training”?

By MockTheWingNuts

March 8, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

It’s simple:

Scooter lied for Shooter (Cheney) so he wouldn’t be shot in the face!

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